GET NJ posted Message 357 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 08:42:06 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board! Welcome to the Message Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** admin posted Message 358 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 08:47:17 Subject: test of no e-mail test of no e-mail ***************** End Of Article ****************** admin posted Message 359 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 08:56:23 Subject: Re: Welcome to the Message Board! followup : Welcome to the Message Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 360 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 09:03:43 Subject: Chiappone Announces Candidacy Chiappone Announces Candidacy Urban Times News March 14 - March 20, 2003 (BAYONNE) Councilman at Large, Anthony Chiappone, announced his intentions regarding the 3 1 St District State Assembly race during a 12:30 p.m. news conference, Tuesday, March 11, at 618 Broadway. Chiappone, 45, is regarded as a strong opponent for 9-term incum- bent, Assemblyman Joe Doria, who is also mayor of Bayonne. In the May 2002 mayoral race in Bayonne, Chiappone ran as an independent against the Doria slate and prevailed as Councilman at Large, getting near- ly as many votes for his seat as Doria did for mayor. As Assemblyman Chiappone will represent the residents of both Jersey City and Bayonne. Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, elected to Mayor in Jersey City in 2001, is run- ning for Senate in the 31St District and will be in attendance. "With Jersey City and Bayonne being so close to major industry and New York City, home-be focused on," Chiappone said. Chiappone, a self-employed photographer with his own business in Bayonne for the last 20 years, plans to take his message to the resi- dents of Bayonne and Jersey City, going door to door to emphasize his stand on homeland security, educa- tion, senior medical assistance and forcing State Legislatures to mandate Cable Television competition. "Many people are being held hostage to the cable companies, which is their primary source for information," Chiappone said. "Today companies agree to stay out of each other's turf. Without any fair competition, cable customers are forced to accept whatever rate they want to charge subscribers. Simply put, that's a monopoly. That's ille- gal." Chiappone won his bid for first Ward Councilman in 1998, fol- lowed by his victory in 2002 for Councilman at Large. ***************** End Of Article ****************** admin posted Message 361 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 09:12:09 Subject: test test ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 362 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 09:24:28 Subject: Menendez Should Have Stayed Home Menendez Should Have Stayed Home Urban Times Op-Ed Urban Times News March 14-March 20, 2003 Congressman Robert Menendez last Sunday went South to Birmingham, Alabama to join with Civil Rights Leaders and more than 30 members of Congress in the re-enact- ment of the 1965 Voting Rights Marchs across Edmund Pettus Bridge. This was the Fifth Annual Congressional Pilgrimmage to Selma, Alabama. The conressman reportedly stated "It fills me with pride to march alongside John Lewis, one of our country's greatest civil rights lead- ers." Menendez ought to be ashamed to show his face after he repeatedly banned the first African American Mayor of Jersey City from the Hudson County Democratic Leadership Meeting. Menendez will tell anyone how he is going to destroy Mayor Cunningham no matter what the cost. The Congressman is the worst kind hypocrite. He hides behind Civil Rights leaders trying to appear as though he supports Civil Rights. The Civil Rights fight is all about African American Mayors in Urban areas. Menendez could have saved taxpayers the money for his trip and stayed home. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 363 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 09:35:34 Subject: Mayor Cunningham In Senate Race Mayor Cunningham In Senate Race Urban Times News March 14-March 20, 2003 By Steven Glazer (Jersey City) Flanked by support- ers, friends and the First Lady of Jersey City, Mayor Glenn Cunningham declared his candidacy for the State Senate from the 31st district. Cunningham was intro- duced to the enthusiastic crowd of sup- porters by Dominic Puglisi a former Jersey City Council Member and former Hudson County Sheriff. Bayonne Council Member Anthony Chiappone was posi- tioned to be highly visible to the crowd and is expected to announce his candidacy also. Chiappone is seen as one of several allies in the battle Cunningham faces with the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Cunningham has fired the first shot in a primary battle that could tip the balance of power in Hudson County. The Jersey City Mayor has been embattled since the early days of his term fighting opposition of the Hudson County Democratic Organization throughout Jersey City government. Cunningham said he expects that a Senate victory would strengthen his hand against the for- midable resistance he faces. Redistricting was a concern for Cunningham's cam- paign team but a recent court ruling will leave district boundaries in place for another year. Cunningham is aiming at the Senate Seat of Joseph Charles who has decided not to run. Charles is said to be expecting to move into a judgeship with the Hudson County Superior Court but has yet to be appointed. Cunningham says he needs additional muscle in Trenton the Senate seat will give him. Cunningham hopc~, to gain leverage to do the job in Jersey City and overcome powerful oppo- sition aligned against him as a result of his falling out with the Hudson County Democratic Organization. That falling out broke into open warfare a little more than a year ago when Cunningham supported Bernard Hartnett to serve as interim County Executive. While Hartnett was in office he refused to renew a contract for legal serv- ices for the County with attorney Donald Scarinci. Scarinci had held the $550,000 contract for years until Hartnett refused to renew it without public bidding. Scarinci is Treasurer of Menendez for Congress, top fundraiser for Rep. Robert Menendez D-13. When Hartnett refused to renew the contract Scarinci flew into a rage accord- ing to Hartnett and stalked out. A short time later Cunningham received a call from Menendez asking Cunningham to "straighten" Hartnett out. Cunningham refused to get involved and tensions have been escalating ever since. Hartnett was later beaten by Tom DeGise whom the HCDO ran against him. With DeGise in office, Scarinci later got the contract despite public bidding from seven other firms and despite not being the low bidder and with the with the admitted connivance of former County Counsel Joseph Sherman. Sherman was a partner in the firm Scarinci founded, Scarinci and Hollenbeck. Sherman admitted in an open meeting of Freeholders that he had rigged the bid, withholding critical information from competing law firms to favor Scarinci. Even with Sherman's help Scarinci was not the low bidder and Freeholders awarded the contract to Scarinci anyway. Cunningham and his supporters have been accused of sounding like con- spiracy theorists complaining about opposing forces. Cunningham told reporters that recent drastic cuts in state aid came as a result of, "powerful people putting pressure on the state not to give me what I need so that I can't say I kept taxes down two years in a row." News stories said that Cunningham "tacitly implicated Menendez in a conspiracy to undermine Cunningham's administration." In fact Cunningham has been outspoken and vocal about Menendez' use of his influ- ence to stymie his administration and limit future aspirations. Menendez' chief fund raiser, Scarinci, is counsel to the State Assembly, was counsel to Governor McGreevey's transition team, and has been backing the Democrats' legal effort to push a redistricting plan through the courts that would radically alter the impact and representation of Jersey City's voters. Detractors discussing the aid cuts have said that the State cut aid because Cunningham's team has financially mis- managed the city. Ironically, the aid that was so drastically cut required the admin- istration to work closely with the State's local finance board and with the board's supervision approving financial actions taken by Cunningham's team. After devel- oping a budget with the state board's bless- ing, that proposal has been stalled by the city council. Council Members met with Menendez during the holiday season in a meeting that apparently violated the Open Meetings Act. In that meeting, in viola- tion of that law, Menendez laid down the law to the lawmakers and told them explicitly to block Cunningham at every turn, according to sources. The budget bogged down in debate and was dealt a body blow by the reduction in state aid, leaving an $8.5 Million bole in what start- ed out to be a balanced budget. There are just seven other cities in the state receiving these payments and all were reduced very slightly from year ago levels, but Jersey City was cut 80%. Longtime activist and supporter Dominic Puglisi said, "In more than 30 years I have never seen anything like this. Hudson County politics have always been rough, but this is way beyond anything I ever saw before. It is all about greed as far as I am concerned." ***************** End Of Article ****************** admin posted Message 364 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 10:58:19 Subject: test test ***************** End Of Article ****************** admin posted Message 365 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 11:06:16 Subject: 2nd test test ***************** End Of Article ****************** admin posted Message 366 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 11:08:14 Subject: 3rd test test 3 ***************** End Of Article ****************** admin posted Message 367 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 11:18:30 Subject: test 4 test4 ***************** End Of Article ****************** admin posted Message 368 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 11:25:12 Subject: test test ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 369 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2003 at 11:27:31 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board! Welcome to the Message Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 370 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2003 at 09:23:05 Subject: Uncle Harvey Leads Council Uncle Harvey Leads Council "Reverse Privatization" Of Employment and Training, Inc. -- One More Nuisance Suit By H.A. Andrews (Jersey City) The Council voted to introduce an ordinance sponsored by L. Harvey Smith that will bring back under the city's umbrella an agency that was cre- ated to stand-alone and benefit from Federal funding. The autonomous Employment and Training Program, Inc. was created on a stand-alone basis to avoid commingling its funds, 100% from the Federal Government, with city finances. Stand-alone status also prom- ised to make the agency's management immune to political wrangling in the city government. The ordinance, if approved would fold the agency back into the city organization chart as a department within the Office of Economic Opportunity. "Putting it back within the city organiza- tion defeats the entire purpose for which this Agency was created," said Executive Director Edward Santiago. As the ordi- nance was approved, Santiago would remain as director. But the move raises questions about what happens to the flow of federal funds to the agency's $5 Million annual budget and control over that flow. "I am afraid that some of it will be absorbed in the pipeline on its way," said Santiago. "I am more worried about the autonomy of the agency and the independ- ence we enjoy. What will happen to that if we come under the control of some city department caught in a political tug-of- war?" "We will take this to the courts if we have to," said Mayor Glenn Cunningham. We are a distressed city and we cannot afford to dissipate our precious cash on frivolous litigation like this. These are experienced people who ought to know better. I refuse to believe that they did not think this through far enough to realize that this means adding 35 employees to the city's payroll. I refuse to believe that our Council members do not know that there is a hiring freeze. This flies in the face of reason. I would hope we have the right to expect better than this from people who call themselves profes- sional and reasonable." Uncle Harvey would not com- ment on the ordinance. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 371 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2003 at 09:28:06 Subject: Manzo Joins Cunningham And Chiappone In 31st Dist Race By Steven Glazer Urban Times News March 21 - March 27, 2003 (Jersey City) Louis Manzo threw his hat in the ring for 31st District Assembly seat joining the ticket headed by Mayor Glenn Cunningham with Bayonne Council Member Anthony Chiappone. Manzo, a former Freeholder and Jersey City Health Chief rounds out a ticket that will go against the formidable Hudson County Democratic Organization. Freeholder Bill O'Dea told the enthusias- tic crowd that "the organization outspent us five-to-one last time and we outpolled them three-to-two. We intend to go up against the machine and we intend to win. We have been labeled mavericks and it is a lable that I wear proudly. Our strength is built on people, not on megabuck corpo- rate media campaigns." Manzo particularly has been stir- ring interest lately with a novel proposal to tax political campaign contributions. Manzo calls it his "Robin Hood Tax." "All campaign contributions would be taxed just as if it were ordinary earned income. The more you raise, the more you pay. The funds would be directed espe- cially for the benefit of children and sen- iors. I would want to see the money used to restore Seniors' Medicaid cuts and money just cut from the state budget to immunize approximately 6,000 kids in Jersey City," said Manzo. "I wanted to run because I think that the party in power has given up its right to govern and no longer represents the voters that put them in office. They have lost the right to represent the people. They only care about the holders of no-bid contracts," said Manzo. "That is why over in Bergen County, they get Xanadu and here in Hudson, we get raw sewage and household trash. They have sold out every retail merchant here in Hudson County. We are in danger of becoming the Garbage Capital of the East Coast, if not the country, thanks to these guys. But it's OK as long as the right people keep on getting their contracts. When they run a campaign fundraiser, they are looking out into a room full of contract holders. When we hold an event like this one we look out and see our friends and our neighbors, the people who with live with." Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham told the crowd "We are building a movement here to liberate our city from the power brokers. The whole system is geared toward them getting their buddies more contracts. We are going to move out and liberate other towns in Hudson County. With us everything will be out in the open. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MoMo posted Message 372 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2003 at 19:38:55 Subject: World's shortest giant? I see that Bernard Kenny got the laurels as the state's most trustworthy politician. Isn't that a little like getting the title of world's shortest giant? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BOBBY JACKSON posted Message 373 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 08:09:27 Subject: Re: World's shortest giant? : I see that Bernard Kenny got the laurels as the state's most trustworthy politician. Isn't that a little like getting the title of world's shortest giant? And steven Glazer is a DRUNK! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 374 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 09:12:50 Subject: Mutiny On The County -- Steps That Is Urban Times News March 28 - April 03,2003 By Steven Glazer Jersey City-It was as though a group of circus seals and drunken rodeo clowns got together and decided to hold a press conference and photo opportunity and everybody came-only they came to the wrong place. Just for the five of them- Jersey City Council Members-to be there together at the same violates the Sunshine law, governing meetings of public officials. This makes the second time since the holi- day season that this has happened. For ded- icated public servants on a mission like these, lawmakers at that, it is apparently of little importance. County employees also employed by the City of Jersey City plus Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith appeared with Jersey City Corporation Counsel Alex Booth, in support of Booth's mutiny against Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. The group appeared on the steps outside Hudson County's historic old Courthouse in front of the office of County Executive Tom DeGise, himself a former Jersey City Council alumnus, in support of Corporation Counsel Alex Booth, who refuses to be fired. Every member of the group has strong ties to the Hudson County government politically and monetarily through the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Not only does Booth refuse to be fired like his brother before him, terminated by the Jersey City Municipal Utility Authority, Booth has reiterated many charges against Mayor Cunningham and members of Cunningham's staff from the earlier suit filed by brother Jay. Hudson County Superior Court Judge Arthur D'Italia, already dismissed as "utterly with- out evidentiary value" those allegations, in a scathing opinion delivered from the bench" Since then Booth has added a few new alle- gations of his own against local business- men who have categorically denied each and every assertion Booth made. Nevertheless Booth is pressing his suit- which is good since it is badly wrinkled. As the buffoonery unfolded out- side, Mayor Glenn Cunningham's attorney filed a motion inside ahead of the April 7 hearing date. Cunningham, represented by Gary Stein of Pashman and Stein main- tained that the court has the right to review the suit and that the suit is base on Booth's ineligibility to serve as corporation counsel, and asks that the court therefore uphold Booth's termination. Cunningham says that Booth is disqualified because he maintained his private law practice while holding office as Corporation Counsel. City ordinance require full time employment. Booth also represented the Hudson County Improvement Authority while Corporation Counsel, a glaring conflict of interest, the motion charges. Booth went beyond the courts and publicly called for a federal investigation of corruption in the circle of advisors sur- rounding Mayor Cunningham which Booth characterized as a "brain trust." In his state- ment at the press conference Booth referred to no-bid contracts awarded to associates and advisors of Cunningham but failed to detail any specifics. Booth spoke about a contract for copier machines but there has been no contract to buy or lease copy machines for the city during the time Cunningham has been in office. Booth said he was approached by associates of Cunningham with financial interests in those contracts but those associates say flat- ly "It never happened. It is an out and out lie, according to the businessmen, "We never spoke about it. In fact, we never speak and we have not spoken for a very long time. We never discussed any contract for copiers. It is a lie, pure and simple." With Booth and Smith were Council Members William Gaughan, Junior Maldonado, Mariano Vega, and Peter Brennan, all of whom hold County jobs ranging from a low of $60,000 a year for Brennan to $95,000 a year for Gaughan. Insert photo William A. Gaughan is a Jersey City Council member who is also chief of staff to County Executive Tom DeGise at a salary of $95,000 annually. Marian Vega, Director of Hudson County's Department of Public Resources at an annual salary of $93,000 and is also a Jersey City Council member. Vega has been the subject of various allegations cir- culating for at least a year in a letter signed by six trade employees of the Department that he runs. The employees allege that Vega used County employees to make improvements on his home on Mercer Street in downtown Jersey City. Maldonado freely grants that at least one of the County employees named, Pat Russo, was at his house. " Of course he was at my house. He is an old friend of mind and he has been to my house any number of times." said Maldonado. Visitors to Vega's house have been impressed with an exten- sive collection of artwork throughout the house. One visitor familiar with art said that the painting were authentic and worth thousands of dollars each. "I am sure the value runs well into six figures. We are talking about the real deal here. It is hard to see how somebody could accumulate assets with that kind of value on the salary, even a good salary like Vega gets as a County employee." Russo was a supervisor of a group of tradesmen employed by the County who allege in their letter that he coerced them to go with him on County time and do work on Vega's house. Russo says that he was a Vega's house and that he did make the repair, a dishwasher installa- tion that the workers charged in their letter, but says it took only a few minutes and that he only spent a few minutes to run to a nearby hardware store for a thirty-five cent fitting and that was it. Russo denies all the rest. Russo was recently forced out of his County job when the state's merit review board barred him permanently from public employment in the State of New Jersey for a long-ago felony conviction when Russo was a Hudson County Police officer. Russo says that the charges only resurfaced ineligibility to serve as corporation counsel, and asks that the court therefore uphold Booth's termination. Cunningham says that Booth is disqualified because he maintained his private law practice while holding office as Corporation Counsel. City ordinance require full time employment. Booth also represented the Hudson County Improvement Authority while Corporation Counsel, a glaring conflict of interest, the motion charges. Booth went beyond the courts and publicly called for a federal investigation of corruption in the circle of advisors sur- rounding Mayor Cunningham which Booth characterized as a "brain trust." In his state- ment at the press conference Booth referred to no-bid contracts awarded to associates and advisors of Cunningham but failed to detail any specifics. Booth spoke about a contract for copier machines but there has been no contract to buy or lease copy machines for the city during the time Cunningham has been in office. Booth said he was approached by associates of Cunningham with financial interests in those contracts but those associates say flat- ly "It never happened. It is an out and out lie, according to the businessmen, "We never spoke about it. In fact, we never many waste disposal concerns that he is charged with regulating. Maldonado is also chainnan of the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency where he was responsible for the introduction of a pocket resolution putting attorney Donald Scarinci in de facto control of the JCRA including the ability to influ- ence decisions involving his own compen- sation. Maldonado is supporting Booth's suit against the Mayor alleging no-hid con- tracts exactly like the one given to Scarinci. Maldonado has frequently come under fire from others, not part of the Cunningham administration for misappropriating funds from a Hispanic heritage event held yearly in Jersey City, Fiestas Patronales. Former Council member Jamie Vazques has charged that Maldonado has raised money for the festival for years and pocketed the majority of the funds. Vazquez has chal- lenged Maldonado to produce financial records of the affairs, but to date Maldonado has not done so. Maldonado denies any impropriety regarding the Fiestas Patronales. Peter Brennan is a Jersey City Council member who was recently appoint- ed to the post of confidential aide with the County government when Tom DeGise took office as County Executive. Brennan is the owner of a Tavern in Jersey City's Ward A and is well-known as bookmaker. L. Harvey Smith, Jersey City Council President is not employed by the County of Hudson but is hopeful of the HCDO sponsorship to run for State Senator in the 31 st District opposing Mayor Glenn Cunningham. Smith was denied a spot on the organization's ticket and rode into the office he presently holds, ironically, on the coattails of Glenn Cunningham. Smith's switch of allegiance and apparent lack of loyalty to his political benefactor have earned him the reputation of sell-out, hence the nickname Uncle Harvey. Smith is an African American who is seen by the African American community in Jersey City as having sold out like the character in the novel by Harriet Beecher Stowe. Smith has also been the subject of numerous com- plaints by developers both in and out of the area. One well-known Bergen County developer said in an interview that he did not like to take on projects in Hudson County because "All those guys have their hands in my pocket up to the elbow, espe- cially the big guy." Smith stands well over six feet. The developer confirmed that it was Smith specifically who was most aggressive in demanding gifts. "Was it Harvey?" The developer was asked. "Yeah, that's it, Harvey Smith." Another developer planning to construct houses complained that Smith tried to shake him down for a house. It is well-known that Smith's civic association office is housed in a building owned by a developer who has done a large number of projects here in Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 375 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 09:24:58 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board! Welcome to the Message Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 376 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 10:07:18 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board! Welcome to the Message Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Oyguy posted Message 377 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 11:08:35 Subject: Your talking about Hoboken Your way off base with that one kid. There aint no shortest giants in Hoboken, that's the land of the tallest midgets! : I see that Bernard Kenny got the laurels as the state's most trustworthy politician. Isn't that a little like getting the title of world's shortest giant? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Plan B posted Message 378 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 13:03:16 Subject: Epiphany must be Greek for STAB IN THE BACK! Today's Star Ledger: McGreevey at odds with two of his top backers Rising power of Norcross and Lynch meets opposition Tuesday, April 01, 2003 BY JEFF WHELAN AND JOSH MARGOLIN Star-Ledger Staff Gov. James E. McGreevey is quietly distancing himself from two political power brokers who helped engineer his rise to power, opening a rift that could have enormous consequences for the state's Democratic Party. . . . Underscoring the problems, the governor recently called U.S. Sen. Jon Corzine (D-N.J.) and U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez (D-13th Dist.) to inform them of his "epiphany" and to seek their support should the dispute escalate, according to sources close to the governor and both lawmakers. At the same time, Norcross and Lynch have grown increasingly frustrated with what they see as McGreevey's political bumbling and his low poll numbers. Norcross also has taken aim at the governor's plan to raise taxes on casinos, a move South Jersey lawmakers say could harm the region's economy. . . . Sources close to Norcross and Lynch dispute that analysis and point instead to what they say has been a succession of McGreevey blunders -- his trade mission to Ireland, his hiring of an unqualified homeland security adviser, and his choice of Joseph Santiago as State Police superintendent. Santiago quit in October amid unsubstantiated allegations that he had consorted with mobsters. Some of the bad feelings surfaced over the political demise of developer Charles Kushner, McGreevey's biggest campaign contributor and his choice to chair the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Kushner resigned from the authority in February after Sen. William Gormley (R-Atlantic) raised questions about the legality of thousands of dollars of Kushner political donations. . . . But McGreevey advisers complain Norcross is seeking to expand his sphere of influence, and is contributing to divisive primaries in the process. One accused Norcross of having "a plan to take over the whole state." They point to what they say is Norcross's support for Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham's state Senate bid against the Menendez- backed candidate. Sources close to Menendez say the congressman recently received an unsolicited phone call from Norcross denying involvement. Menendez is said to have warned Norcross, "If you come into Hudson County, we are going to have war." The Lynch and Norcross camps vehemently deny they are backing Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Henson posted Message 379 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 15:04:12 Subject: Re: Epiphany must be Greek for STAB IN THE BACK! Maybe like the Ledger just made the whole thing up for a April fools. As of lates, things are getting so topsyturvy it's hard to tell what's on the level anymore. : Today's Star Ledger: : McGreevey at odds with two of his top backers : Rising power of Norcross and Lynch meets opposition : Tuesday, April 01, 2003 : BY JEFF WHELAN AND JOSH MARGOLIN : Star-Ledger Staff : Gov. James E. McGreevey is quietly distancing himself from two political power brokers who helped engineer his rise to power, opening a rift that could have enormous consequences for the state's Democratic Party. : . . . : Underscoring the problems, the governor recently called U.S. Sen. Jon Corzine (D-N.J.) and U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez (D-13th Dist.) to inform them of his "epiphany" and to seek their support should the dispute escalate, according to sources close to the governor and both lawmakers. : At the same time, Norcross and Lynch have grown increasingly frustrated with what they see as McGreevey's political bumbling and his low poll numbers. Norcross also has taken aim at the governor's plan to raise taxes on casinos, a move South Jersey lawmakers say could harm the region's economy. : . . . : Sources close to Norcross and Lynch dispute that analysis and point instead to what they say has been a succession of McGreevey blunders -- his trade mission to Ireland, his hiring of an unqualified homeland security adviser, and his choice of Joseph Santiago as State Police superintendent. Santiago quit in October amid unsubstantiated allegations that he had consorted with mobsters. : Some of the bad feelings surfaced over the political demise of developer Charles Kushner, McGreevey's biggest campaign contributor and his choice to chair the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Kushner resigned from the authority in February after Sen. William Gormley (R-Atlantic) raised questions about the legality of thousands of dollars of Kushner political donations. : . . . : But McGreevey advisers complain Norcross is seeking to expand his sphere of influence, and is contributing to divisive primaries in the process. One accused Norcross of having "a plan to take over the whole state." : They point to what they say is Norcross's support for Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham's state Senate bid against the Menendez- backed candidate. Sources close to Menendez say the congressman recently received an unsolicited phone call from Norcross denying involvement. Menendez is said to have warned Norcross, "If you come into Hudson County, we are going to have war." : The Lynch and Norcross camps vehemently deny they are backing Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uberhippy posted Message 380 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 17:26:09 Subject: Now I get it! Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham – long in the tooth DNC wunderkind – getting the worst of it in a charity wrestling match with 800 lb Congressional Gorilla (and Tommy Smith only had to fight Ali. . .) is saved by a tag team of South Jersey politicos! Meanwhile, back at Drumthwacket, Gov. James E. McGreevey, humbled by recollections of a trip to the Old Sod and an Amiri Baraka poetry reading, undergoes a vast transformation of consciousness and envisions a 1000 years of democrat control in the Statehouse. Whereupon Gov. James E. McGreevey gets a NJ US Senator on the phone (the one with a phone in his office, the other guy being stuck in the janitor’s closet on the 4th fl. as a “temporary” measure) and attempts the impossible translation of the ineffable into the verbal – by the minute sounding more and more like “First Family” with a bad stylus. (Gee Whiz, why do you have to sound like you came from Boston or England to get taken seriously in New Jersey!?) All the while, the Gov. James E. comes in third in a statewide poll: 1) Village Idiot, 2) Dogcatcher. - - - Now I get it! April Fool! : Today's Star Ledger: : McGreevey at odds with two of his top backers : Rising power of Norcross and Lynch meets opposition : Tuesday, April 01, 2003 : BY JEFF WHELAN AND JOSH MARGOLIN : Star-Ledger Staff : Gov. James E. McGreevey is quietly distancing himself from two political power brokers who helped engineer his rise to power, opening a rift that could have enormous consequences for the state's Democratic Party. : . . . : Underscoring the problems, the governor recently called U.S. Sen. Jon Corzine (D-N.J.) and U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez (D-13th Dist.) to inform them of his "epiphany" and to seek their support should the dispute escalate, according to sources close to the governor and both lawmakers. : At the same time, Norcross and Lynch have grown increasingly frustrated with what they see as McGreevey's political bumbling and his low poll numbers. Norcross also has taken aim at the governor's plan to raise taxes on casinos, a move South Jersey lawmakers say could harm the region's economy. : . . . : Sources close to Norcross and Lynch dispute that analysis and point instead to what they say has been a succession of McGreevey blunders -- his trade mission to Ireland, his hiring of an unqualified homeland security adviser, and his choice of Joseph Santiago as State Police superintendent. Santiago quit in October amid unsubstantiated allegations that he had consorted with mobsters. : Some of the bad feelings surfaced over the political demise of developer Charles Kushner, McGreevey's biggest campaign contributor and his choice to chair the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Kushner resigned from the authority in February after Sen. William Gormley (R-Atlantic) raised questions about the legality of thousands of dollars of Kushner political donations. : . . . : But McGreevey advisers complain Norcross is seeking to expand his sphere of influence, and is contributing to divisive primaries in the process. One accused Norcross of having "a plan to take over the whole state." : They point to what they say is Norcross's support for Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham's state Senate bid against the Menendez- backed candidate. Sources close to Menendez say the congressman recently received an unsolicited phone call from Norcross denying involvement. Menendez is said to have warned Norcross, "If you come into Hudson County, we are going to have war." : The Lynch and Norcross camps vehemently deny they are backing Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer is Bi-sexual posted Message 381 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 19:01:22 Subject: Re: Epiphany must be Greek for Steven Glazer is a drunk : Maybe like the Ledger just made the whole thing up for a April fools. : As of lates, things are getting so topsyturvy it's hard to tell what's on the level anymore. : : Today's Star Ledger: : : McGreevey at odds with two of his top backers : : Rising power of Norcross and Lynch meets opposition : : Tuesday, April 01, 2003 : : BY JEFF WHELAN AND JOSH MARGOLIN : : Star-Ledger Staff : : Gov. James E. McGreevey is quietly distancing himself from two political power brokers who helped engineer his rise to power, opening a rift that could have enormous consequences for the state's Democratic Party. : : . . . : : Underscoring the problems, the governor recently called U.S. Sen. Jon Corzine (D-N.J.) and U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez (D-13th Dist.) to inform them of his "epiphany" and to seek their support should the dispute escalate, according to sources close to the governor and both lawmakers. : : At the same time, Norcross and Lynch have grown increasingly frustrated with what they see as McGreevey's political bumbling and his low poll numbers. Norcross also has taken aim at the governor's plan to raise taxes on casinos, a move South Jersey lawmakers say could harm the region's economy. : : . . . : : Sources close to Norcross and Lynch dispute that analysis and point instead to what they say has been a succession of McGreevey blunders -- his trade mission to Ireland, his hiring of an unqualified homeland security adviser, and his choice of Joseph Santiago as State Police superintendent. Santiago quit in October amid unsubstantiated allegations that he had consorted with mobsters. : : Some of the bad feelings surfaced over the political demise of developer Charles Kushner, McGreevey's biggest campaign contributor and his choice to chair the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Kushner resigned from the authority in February after Sen. William Gormley (R-Atlantic) raised questions about the legality of thousands of dollars of Kushner political donations. : : . . . : : But McGreevey advisers complain Norcross is seeking to expand his sphere of influence, and is contributing to divisive primaries in the process. One accused Norcross of having "a plan to take over the whole state." : : They point to what they say is Norcross's support for Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham's state Senate bid against the Menendez- backed candidate. Sources close to Menendez say the congressman recently received an unsolicited phone call from Norcross denying involvement. Menendez is said to have warned Norcross, "If you come into Hudson County, we are going to have war." : : The Lynch and Norcross camps vehemently deny they are backing Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer And Jackson have sex on the county steps posted Message 382 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 19:04:39 Subject: Glazer is an idiot : Urban Times News : March 28 - April 03,2003 : : By Steven Glazer : Jersey City-It was as though a : group of circus seals and drunken rodeo : clowns got together and decided to hold a : press conference and photo opportunity and : everybody came-only they came to the : wrong place. Just for the five of them- : Jersey City Council Members-to be there : together at the same violates the Sunshine : law, governing meetings of public officials. : This makes the second time since the holi- : day season that this has happened. For ded- : icated public servants on a mission like : these, lawmakers at that, it is apparently of : little importance. : County employees also employed : by the City of Jersey City plus Jersey City : Council President L. Harvey Smith : appeared with Jersey City Corporation : Counsel Alex Booth, in support of Booth's : mutiny against Mayor Glenn D. : Cunningham. The group appeared on the : steps outside Hudson County's historic old : Courthouse in front of the office of County : Executive Tom DeGise, himself a former : Jersey City Council alumnus, in support of : Corporation Counsel Alex Booth, who : refuses to be fired. Every member of the : group has strong ties to the Hudson County : government politically and monetarily : through the Hudson County Democratic : Organization. : Not only does Booth refuse to be : fired like his brother before him, terminated : by the Jersey City Municipal Utility : Authority, Booth has reiterated many : charges against Mayor Cunningham and : members of Cunningham's staff from the : earlier suit filed by brother Jay. Hudson : County Superior Court Judge Arthur : D'Italia, already dismissed as "utterly with- : out evidentiary value" those allegations, in a : scathing opinion delivered from the bench" : Since then Booth has added a few new alle- : gations of his own against local business- : men who have categorically denied each : and every assertion Booth made. : Nevertheless Booth is pressing his suit- : which is good since it is badly wrinkled. : As the buffoonery unfolded out- : side, Mayor Glenn Cunningham's attorney : filed a motion inside ahead of the April 7 : hearing date. Cunningham, represented by : Gary Stein of Pashman and Stein main- : tained that the court has the right to review : the suit and that the suit is base on Booth's : ineligibility to serve as corporation counsel, : and asks that the court therefore uphold : Booth's termination. Cunningham says that : Booth is disqualified because he maintained : his private law practice while holding office : as Corporation Counsel. City ordinance : require full time employment. Booth also : represented the Hudson County : Improvement Authority while Corporation : Counsel, a glaring conflict of interest, the : motion charges. : Booth went beyond the courts and : publicly called for a federal investigation of : corruption in the circle of advisors sur- : rounding Mayor Cunningham which Booth : characterized as a "brain trust." In his state- : ment at the press conference Booth referred : to no-bid contracts awarded to associates : and advisors of Cunningham but failed to : detail any specifics. Booth spoke about a : contract for copier machines but there has : been no contract to buy or lease copy : machines for the city during the time : Cunningham has been in office. Booth said : he was approached by associates of : Cunningham with financial interests in : those contracts but those associates say flat- : ly "It never happened. It is an out and out : lie, according to the businessmen, "We : never spoke about it. In fact, we never : speak and we have not spoken for a very : long time. We never discussed any contract : for copiers. It is a lie, pure and simple." : With Booth and Smith were : Council Members William Gaughan, Junior : Maldonado, Mariano Vega, and Peter : Brennan, all of whom hold County jobs : ranging from a low of $60,000 a year for : Brennan to $95,000 a year for Gaughan. : Insert photo : William A. Gaughan is a Jersey City : Council member who is also chief of staff to : County Executive Tom DeGise at a salary : of $95,000 annually. : Marian Vega, Director of Hudson : County's Department of Public Resources : at an annual salary of $93,000 and is also a : Jersey City Council member. Vega has : been the subject of various allegations cir- : culating for at least a year in a letter signed : by six trade employees of the Department : that he runs. The employees allege that : Vega used County employees to make : improvements on his home on Mercer : Street in downtown Jersey City. : Maldonado freely grants that at least one of : the County employees named, Pat Russo, : was at his house. " Of course he was at my : house. He is an old friend of mind and he : has been to my house any number of : times." said Maldonado. Visitors to Vega's : house have been impressed with an exten- : sive collection of artwork throughout the : house. One visitor familiar with art said : that the painting were authentic and worth : thousands of dollars each. "I am sure the : value runs well into six figures. We are : talking about the real deal here. It is hard : to see how somebody could accumulate : assets with that kind of value on the : salary, even a good salary like Vega gets as : a County employee." : Russo was a supervisor of a : group of tradesmen employed by the : County who allege in their letter that he : coerced them to go with him on County : time and do work on Vega's house. Russo : says that he was a Vega's house and that he : did make the repair, a dishwasher installa- : tion that the workers charged in their letter, : but says it took only a few minutes and that : he only spent a few minutes to run to a : nearby hardware store for a thirty-five cent : fitting and that was it. Russo denies all the : rest. Russo was recently forced out of his : County job when the state's merit review : board barred him permanently from public : employment in the State of New Jersey for : a long-ago felony conviction when Russo : was a Hudson County Police officer. : Russo says that the charges only resurfaced : ineligibility to serve as corporation counsel, : and asks that the court therefore uphold : Booth's termination. Cunningham says that : Booth is disqualified because he maintained : his private law practice while holding office : as Corporation Counsel. City ordinance : require full time employment. Booth also : represented the Hudson County : Improvement Authority while Corporation : Counsel, a glaring conflict of interest, the : motion charges. : Booth went beyond the courts and : publicly called for a federal investigation of : corruption in the circle of advisors sur- : rounding Mayor Cunningham which Booth : characterized as a "brain trust." In his state- : ment at the press conference Booth referred : to no-bid contracts awarded to associates : and advisors of Cunningham but failed to : detail any specifics. Booth spoke about a : contract for copier machines but there has : been no contract to buy or lease copy : machines for the city during the time : Cunningham has been in office. Booth said : he was approached by associates of : Cunningham with financial interests in : those contracts but those associates say flat- : ly "It never happened. It is an out and out : lie, according to the businessmen, "We : never spoke about it. In fact, we never : many waste disposal concerns that he is : charged with regulating. Maldonado is also : chainnan of the Jersey City Redevelopment : Agency where he was responsible for the : introduction of a pocket resolution putting : attorney Donald Scarinci in de facto control : of the JCRA including the ability to influ- : ence decisions involving his own compen- : sation. Maldonado is supporting Booth's : suit against the Mayor alleging no-hid con- : tracts exactly like the one given to Scarinci. : Maldonado has frequently come under fire : from others, not part of the Cunningham : administration for misappropriating funds : from a Hispanic heritage event held yearly : in Jersey City, Fiestas Patronales. Former : Council member Jamie Vazques has : charged that Maldonado has raised money : for the festival for years and pocketed the : majority of the funds. Vazquez has chal- : lenged Maldonado to produce financial : records of the affairs, but to date : Maldonado has not done so. Maldonado : denies any impropriety regarding the : Fiestas Patronales. : Peter Brennan is a Jersey City : Council member who was recently appoint- : ed to the post of confidential aide with the : County government when Tom DeGise : took office as County Executive. Brennan : is the owner of a Tavern in Jersey City's : Ward A and is well-known as bookmaker. : L. Harvey Smith, Jersey City : Council President is not employed by the : County of Hudson but is hopeful of the : HCDO sponsorship to run for State Senator : in the 31 st District opposing Mayor Glenn : Cunningham. Smith was denied a spot on : the organization's ticket and rode into the : office he presently holds, ironically, on the : coattails of Glenn Cunningham. Smith's : switch of allegiance and apparent lack of : loyalty to his political benefactor have : earned him the reputation of sell-out, hence : the nickname Uncle Harvey. Smith is an : African American who is seen by the : African American community in Jersey : City as having sold out like the character in : the novel by Harriet Beecher Stowe. Smith : has also been the subject of numerous com- : plaints by developers both in and out of the : area. : One well-known Bergen County : developer said in an interview that he did : not like to take on projects in Hudson : County because "All those guys have their : hands in my pocket up to the elbow, espe- : cially the big guy." Smith stands well over : six feet. The developer confirmed that it : was Smith specifically who was most : aggressive in demanding gifts. "Was it : Harvey?" : The developer was asked. "Yeah, : that's it, Harvey Smith." Another developer : planning to construct houses complained : that Smith tried to shake him down for a : house. It is well-known that Smith's civic : association office is housed in a building : owned by a developer who has done a large : number of projects here in Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bobby Jackson didn,t cumm posted Message 383 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 19:07:49 Subject: Re: World's shortest peni$ :Steven Glazer has 2 penial implaints and he is now 3 inches! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 384 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 19:15:57 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board! Vigorously disagree, but please don't disgrace yourself by stooping to name calling. All messages containing curses or personal insults are deleted. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BOBBY JACKSON posted Message 385 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2003 at 21:29:45 Subject: mANOLO AND STEVE GLAZER GET NEW YORK TIMES JOBS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....................................APRIL FOOLS! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ogden posted Message 386 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2003 at 05:32:13 Subject: Get yer red hot GAS MASK ! Heard the latest of the going ons over at the 325 Palisade Avenue City Hall outpost? Seems that a couple of "entrepreneurs" were running a little side business selling (to one, to all) GAS MASKS! It's not exactly sure what was the source of the supply . . .the units were being peddled at $5 a pop. . . Mayor Cunningham, on learning of this new effort at privatization, ordered the pricipals to CLOSE UP SHOP! One customer was somewhat disappointed to see in the fine print that the gas mask was rated for 1 1/2 MINUTES!!! Rumor has it that the filter can be "rejuvenated" by URINATING ON IT!!! (Is this some sort of gender bias?) I hope your bladder didn't let loose at the first whiff of a gas attack. Another reason to drink 8 glasses of water a day? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandra Dee or is it B? posted Message 387 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2003 at 17:32:30 Subject: And the award goes to: 1367. And The Award goes to: by hellouall, 4/4/03 13:08 ET Let’s play by no rules in Jersey City Hall ……..Our famous kiss butt wrote a letter to the Jersey Journal and the Urban Times condoning the headlines in the Jersey Journal “OLD MAN DIES IN FIRE”. Ms. Joan Eccleston Young otherwise known as red face is outraged…hmmmMakes me wonder why that headline in the Jersey Journal offended her but the contents in The Urban Times is acceptable.. She claims she is protecting the seniors but as the storyline unfolds, we know she has other hidden agendas. SOOOOO folks this week’s jacka$$ award is given to: JOAN Eccleston Young of Jersey City. In Joan’s acceptance speech she thanks Glen, Bobby and Eugene for making her the shining red star she is today.WAY TO GO JOAN…….Not! » Forums Help » User Agreement » Privacy Policy About Us | User Agreement | Privacy Policy | Help/Feedback | Advertise With Us © 2003 NJ.com. All Rights Reserved. ***************** End Of Article ****************** This reporter is an idiot! posted Message 388 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2003 at 17:39:34 Subject: Re: Mutiny On The County -- Steps That Is :Bull$hit the only ones with thier hands out is the ba$tards from UTN with thier "LOBBIEST FIRMS" should we print the names of each waterfront company that has to cut a check to Bobby Jack$on or should we e-mail the FBI with this info...........I made up my mind it will be the Feds! ***************** End Of Article ****************** riyas posted Message 389 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 05, 2003 at 14:29:20 Subject: smiok jbjdksbfjdf ***************** End Of Article ****************** riyas posted Message 390 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 05, 2003 at 14:31:32 Subject: smok iuhdfbs ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weezer posted Message 391 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 05, 2003 at 14:53:28 Subject: Just Say NO! I was at an event when a certain Morristown type asked me if I was living in Jersey City once upon a time when a certain guy was mayor. I replied yes. Then Mr suburbs kind of pulls me away from the crowd and now whispering wants to know if there was any truth to the rumor that this here past tense mayor used to use DRUGS! In my best british butler snobawobby tone I answers him right back that I CERTAINLY HOPE SO. Business class actually starts shaking like he's about to go into a seizure, but he manages to last gasp out WHY DO YOU SAY THAT? WELL I tells him, at least if the former Honorable was on drugs, then that way he had like an EXCUSE! If he was on the Nancy Reagon wagon, then he must just of been a NUT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** wewe posted Message 392 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 05, 2003 at 20:37:42 Subject: a funny one An American is having breakfast one morning (coffee, croissants, bread, butter and jam) when a Frenchman, chewing gum, sits down next to him. The American ignores the Frenchman who, nevertheless, starts a conversation. French man: "You American folk eat the whole bread??" American (in a bad mood): "Of course." French: (after blowing a huge bubble) "We don't. In France, we only eat what's inside. The crusts we collect in a container, recycle it, transform them into croissants and sell them to the States." The Frenchman has a smirk on his face. The American listens in silence. The Frenchman persists: "Do you eat jelly with the bread??" American: "Of Course." Frenchman: (cracking his gum between his teeth and chuckling). "We don't. In France we eat fresh fruit for breakfast, then we put all the peels, seeds, and leftovers in containers, recycle them, transform them into jam and sell the jam to the States." The American then asks: "Do you have sex in France?" Frenchman: "Why of course we do", he says with a big smirk. American: "And what do you do with the condoms once you've used them?" Frenchman: "We throw them away, of course." American: "We don't. In America, we put them in a container, recycle them, melt them down into chewing gum and sell them to France." ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 393 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 06, 2003 at 04:47:09 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board! Welcome to the Message Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer is a fool..and when Jackson is done so is Glazer! posted Message 394 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 07, 2003 at 14:35:53 Subject: Re: Mutiny On The County -- Steps That Is : :Bull$hit the only ones with thier hands out is the ba$tards from UTN with thier "LOBBIEST FIRMS" should we print the names of each waterfront company that has to cut a check to Bobby Jack$on or should we e-mail the FBI with this info...........I made up my mind it will be the Feds! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 395 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 08, 2003 at 10:07:29 Subject: Council Flirts With Tax Increase Council Flirts With Tax Increase Urban Times News April 4 - April 10, 2003 By: Steven Glazer Jersey City-Hudson County employees, moonlighting as Jersey City Council Members and led by Council President L. Harvey Smith refused to approve scheduling an ordinance for first hearing at their regular meeting that would amend the budget, avoiding tax increases for three years. The proposal involves refi- nancing the debt of the Municipal Utility Authority and extending the MUA's man- date by 25 years. In return, the city would receive an increased franchise fee from the MUA, bringing the city an infusion of $42 Million dollars over three years starting now. solving a host of budgetary problems at once and virtually guaranteeing stable tax rates through the end of 2005. The plan proposed by the MUA was formally presented to the council in November in voluminous detail in a com- prehensive memorandum prepared by Counsel to the MUA, Edward McManimon. Council President L. Harvey Smith explained that after discussion by council members at their caucus meeting, council members were still not comfortable and felt more information was needed before putting the measure on the regular Council meeting agenda. Business Administrator Carlton McGee explained that time that time was of the essence if the measure were to he ready in time to avoid a tax increase in the current Fiscal Year. McGee explained that the process would require approval by the State's Local Finance Board. two Council hearings on an ordi- nance. arranging a bond sale by the MUA. and receiving the proceeds in time to apple the funds to the current budget. Council member William A. Gaughan said that he would not feel com- fortable leaving excess funds in the custody of the MUA and wanted the Council to have control over the funds. Gaughan also ques- tioned the amount of the MUA refinancing that he had thought was to he $50 Million but is in fact slated to be $70 Million. Council member Jeremiah Healey interject- ed that there had been no change in the plan that consisted in two parts including a $50 Million amount to cover the additional fran- chise payments to the city and a $20 Million amount to cover MUA's other needs. McGee pointed out that the agreement pro- vided an escalation clause allowing the city to share in increased MUA rates in the future. MUA franchise fees paid to the city would go up based on a percentage formula keyed to the MUA rate increases. Earlier in the day Mayor Glenn Cunningham met with heads of the city's labor unions explaining that there would be major layoffs to slash payrolls if the MUA refinance plan were to derail or to delay past the fiscal year end. The city would have no choice but to raise taxes by about $2.40 per thousand of assessed value. Preparing for the worst, Cunningham gave union leaders the heads up, in case the MUA proposal met the same fate as the proposed change in funding of the city's health benefits plan. Council members, led by Smith, are still studying that proposal, which would have saved the city $2.4 Million. Those council members still maintain that they do not have enough information to "feel comfort- able." That proposal changes only the way the existing health benefits plan is paid for, and not the insurance coverage or any aspect of it. The savings were one assump-based on and would have been balanced had the change been made. Council members are still deliberating the wisdom of saving $2.4 Million. While Council President Smith prundently examined the hidden dangers of saving the city $2.4 Million, the actual cost of the existing, unchanged health benefits increased by $1.5 Million, poking another hole in what started out as a balanced budg- et. State Aid to distressed cities was anoth- er key assumption in the original proposal for a balanced budget. Administration offi- cials were told to expect 'no more" than the $10.5 Million received the year before. Instead, the City received drastically less:only $2 Million, leaving a further $8.5 Million hole in the spending plan. The budget was then underwater by $2.4 Million plus $1.5 Million plus $8.5 Million, producing a total shortfall of $13.4 Million. Partial relief came recently with the sale of some city-owned property at Pershing Field to the Board of Education for $4.3 Million, reducing the shortfall to $9.1 Million. But, cautions Business Administrator McGee, the cash is not yet in the city's account and that transaction is not yet closed. Though McGee says he does not anticipate any major problems with the closing, he is quick to add that the deal isn't done until the money is in the bank and this one is taking longer than it should. Even if the closing comes off in time there is still a considerable shortfall. Cunningham was preparing for failure of these fixes to save the budget leaving no other source of cash except the city's taxpayers. Most of the large com- mercial properties that line the City's Gold Coast waterfront are protected by tax abatements, so the bulk of any increase fall almost entirely on homeowners already under pressure in a lagging economy nationwide. If the MUA financing does not come off as planned, there will be instead of three years of stability, an immediate tax increase. The state has already given the nod to the MUA proposal and all that remains is council approval and a final thumbs up from the Local Finance Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 396 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 08, 2003 at 10:51:33 Subject: Big Cat Gets Fatter- Scarinci Gets $92,000 JCRA Raise Big Cat Gets Fatter- Scarinci Gets $92,000 JCRA Raise Urban Times News April 4-April 10, 2003 Steven Glazer Jersey City-Attorney Donald Scarinci got approval from The Jersey City Redevelopment Agency, which lie controls, for an increase in his annual billing well beyun : the contract's annual cap of $125,000. Scarinci was appointed general counsel to the agency by the introduction of a "pocket resolution° slipped on to the agen- da by Chairman E. Junior Maldonado min- utes before commissioners voted on the contract late last spring. Commissioners said they had no time to carefully read the document but that Maldonado assured them that it was nothing out of the ordinary and vv-as capped at S 125.000 a year and urged them to approve it as a routine matter. "This increase alone, a little more than half way through the contract's calendar year, closely approaches the total compensation commissioner were told Scarinci would receive for legal work." said commissioner Oren Dabney Closer reading of the contract by city lawyers revealed that the appointment was a dual appointment both as general and special counsel to the agency, rendering the cap meaningless. Those city attorneys also pointed out that the resolution abdicated decision-making authority over the agency's operation and control to Scarinci. Officials in Jersey City's legal department were horrified when they learned of the authority the agency had given Scarinci over the agency, apparently including the authority to determine his own compensa- tion. At that time, City attorneys did a thor- ough analysis of the contract and supporting documents and asked the State's Attorney General to look into the matter. Mayor Glenn Cunningham was alarmed at the prospect of the Scarinci hav- ing what amounted to a blank check and virtual control of the agency at the time the contract was originally approved. Cunningham cited examples of Scarinci's billing that completely disregarded contract caps or maximums. In Union City where Scarinci is Counsel, his contract is capped at 5500.000 for the year, but the Union City Business Administrator said that Scarinci had passed that amount halfway through the year. Recently Scarinci asked for and got Freeholder approval for a S70,000 increase to a contract with the County of Hudson capped at S275,000, a 25% increase. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 397 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 08, 2003 at 11:02:12 Subject: "Winds of Change" Herald Campaign Kickoff "Winds of Change" Herald Campaign Kickoff Urban Times News April 4- April 10, 2003 Anthony Chiappone state Assernofy Willie Flood County Clerk Mayor Glenn D.Cunningham State Senator Melba Walsh County Executiv Lou Manzo State Assembly By UTN Staff Liberty State Park- Mayor Glenn D. Cunnignham opened the official campaign of the Reform Democrats heralding the "Liberation of Hudson County," flanked by a full slate of candidates on a beautiful, if blustery afternoon here. The ticket of Cunningham with Louis Manzo and Anthony Chiappone, both running for assembly seats, was Joined by Willie Flood Jerscy City and Melba Walsh of Bayonne. Flood is a long-time activist and career educator who is the Reform candidate for County Clerk. Walsh who had run for Bayonne council and actually won in machine votes, lost narrowly in highly controversial and contested absentee balloting. Walsh rounds out the ticket as the first woman to run for County Executive. Walsh said that her experience with the council race seeing the opposition up close only made her that much more determined to resist the Hudson County Democratic Organization's brand of politics. Flood said that "I will not he a no-show person. I will not be involved in a government process of no-bid contracts, and patronage and i av-for- play politics." in a remark aimed at the opposition. Flood was terminated from her position of 12 years when the opposition administration took office in what could only be seen as a politi- cal purge. Mayor Glenn Cunningham said "This is the beginning of the lib- eration of Hudson County: Operation Hudson Freedom. Things here have to change. It's good that we have this strong fresh breeze here, to keep away all the hot air coming from the court house." Cunningham apparently was joking about the announcement earlier the same morning on the County Court House steps of the opposition Hudson County Democratic Organization slate of candidates. That slate includes L. Harvey Smith who will oppose Cunningham in the race for the 31st. District Senate Seat. Smith won his current Jersey City Council seat only by riding Cunningham's coattails into office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 398 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 08, 2003 at 11:52:39 Subject: NJN Video: Fraguela Runs For State Senate Against Bernard Kenny NJN Video: Fraguela Runs For State Senate Against Bernard Kenny CLICK HERETo See The Video ***************** End Of Article ****************** Moonstruck posted Message 399 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 12, 2003 at 09:58:17 Subject: Maggy Doyle How many positions has Maggy Doyle held under Cunningham? She was with the county when Hartnett was holding court there. She's got the MUA thing and I think she has a job with HEDC also. Are all these jobs being footed by the taxpayer's bill? ***************** End Of Article ****************** weezzie posted Message 400 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 13, 2003 at 16:08:28 Subject: LOL : 1367. And The Award goes to: : by hellouall, 4/4/03 13:08 ET : Let’s play by no rules in Jersey City Hall ……..Our famous kiss butt wrote a letter to the Jersey Journal and the Urban Times condoning the headlines in the Jersey Journal “OLD MAN DIES IN FIRE”. Ms. Joan Eccleston Young otherwise known as red face is outraged…hmmmMakes me wonder why that headline in the Jersey Journal offended her but the contents in The Urban Times is acceptable.. She claims she is protecting the seniors but as the storyline unfolds, we know she has other hidden agendas. : SOOOOO folks this week’s jacka$$ award is given to: JOAN Eccleston Young of Jersey City. : In Joan’s acceptance speech she thanks Glen, Bobby and Eugene for making her the shining red star she is today.WAY TO GO JOAN…….Not! : : : » Forums Help : » User Agreement : » Privacy Policy : : About Us | User Agreement | Privacy Policy | Help/Feedback | Advertise With Us : © 2003 NJ.com. All Rights Reserved. : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 401 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2003 at 05:35:06 Subject: O'DEA BLASTS HCIA DISCLOSURE O'DEA BLASTS HCIA DISCLOSURE Urban Times News April 11-April 17, 2003 By UTN Staff Jersey City-Freeholder Bill O'Dea repeated his demands for full disclosure from Hudson County Improvement Authority officials whom he has accused of fraud after they delivered information that failed to address the questions that he raised. O'Dea demanded an accounting from the HCIA of the use of proceeds of numerous issues of municipals bonds that were earmarked for the construction of an incinerator at the County-owned Koppers' site in Kearny. Hundreds of millions of dol- lars were raised by the sale of 26 issues of bonds since 1988 and the money is gone except for a cash balance of $26Million, according to the HCIA. "We are talking about real money here. Where did it go? What was it used for? We did not build an incinerator. We did not build a hospital. And we have $373 Million in outstanding bonds. We are talking about one-third of a Billion Dollars and I want answers," said O'Dea. O'Dea said that the materials delivered by the HCIA in response to his request were informative but raised more questions than they answered. "Is this another attempt tc mislead?" O'Dea asked. "These are great answers, but they should have saved them until I asked these particu- lar questions. This is a non-answer, com- pletely unresponsive to the issue." The materials delivered include a memo listing some issues of bonds by the HCIA but do not explain what happened to the money the HCIA received from the sale of those bonds. "The Iraqis delivered a 12,000 page memo weighing more than 100 pounds before the war started when they were asked to make a complete disclosure of all their Weapons of Mass Destruction. The HCIA has delivered a package of about 10 pounds of documents that are just the same old stuff rehashed and repackaged and say nothing about what was asked of them," said O'Dea. "It explains nothing about what was done with the money. That was what I wanted to know and that is what I still want to know. Where did the money go?" "I also asked to the see the projec- tions of revenues and the projections of expenses that prompted HCIA to represent to this Freeholder board that future rate increases would be in the range of 3 to 3.5 percent. Then we get hit with 16 per cent. I asked to see those projections and the pres- entation made to this Freeholder board at the time those representations were made. I believe they may have been misleading and I want to know if were misled. I want to know if we were hustled and conned. It is that simple. They have sent us 10 pounds of documents that detail the history of garbage through the ages, everything but an answer." O'Dea said that he was concerned by the extent of the County's obligation for the repayment of the outstanding bonds and to what extent they County guaranteed the repayment. It was O'Dea's understanding that the payment by the County to the Hudson County Improvement Authority of $33 Million was the extent of the County's loan guarantee of the HCIA debt associated with the HCIA's incinerator project at the Koppers' site. But O'Dea added that it would take legal analysis to determine the full extent of the County's obligation for the HCIA's debt in total. The agency's revenues are almost entirely dependent on the solid waste disposal run by the HCIA for the municipalities of the County. There have been numerous allegations of irregularities and abuse. Former Freeholder and current- ly an Assembly candidate in the 31st District, Louis Manzo has been a long time critic. "These guys signed a put-or-pay agreement with a landfill in Pennsylvania that required them to pay an annual mini- mum whether they dumped garbage there or not. For at least five years that I know of they dumped elsewhere and paid tipping fees at other sites and also paid tippin*es at the Pennsylvania site because they were obligated by the contract. They paid twice to get rid of the same trash. That is where a lot of money went. I saw this coming years ago, and I said this years ago, that this would be a runaway train z ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manlo posted Message 402 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2003 at 05:37:28 Subject: CUNNINGHAM CITES BOOTH FOR ETHICAL VIOLATIONS CUNNINGHAM CITES BOOTH FOR ETHICAL VIOLATIONS Urban Times News April 11-April 17, 2003 By Steven Glazer Jersey City-Superior Court Judge Arthur D'Italia heard arguments from Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham's attorney that Corporation Counsel Alex Booth is unfit to serve because of serious ethical lapses in office. "Does that mean if he embezzles money, admits it, gets indict- ed, but is not yet convicted, he can stay in office? Asked attorney Michael Stein. "Just because he stopped does not mean that he did not do that. He freely admits that he did. In and of itself, that renders him unfit," said Stein. Judge D'Italia acknowledged that the ethical aspect of Cunningham's charges against Booth were the most damning brought by the Mayor. "That is the sharpest arrow in your quiver," said D'Italia. Stein argued that though Booth has corrected the ethical violations Cunningham complained of" they are no less valid reason to remove Booth. Booth maintained a partnership interest in the law firm bearing his name. Brownstein, Booth and Barry, while serving as Corporation Counsel to the City of Jersey City. The firm represented the Hudson County Improvement Authority for many years. That County agency is currently in court with the City, through its agency, the Jersey City Incinerator Authority in litigation that began during Booth's service. Booth's law partner, Bob Barry served as counsel to the HCIA until the middle of last year and stayed on as transi- tion counsel through the first of the year and has been a special consultant since the beginning of this year. Barry resigned his remaining relationship with the HCIA just recently as the suit between the Mayor and Booth came to court. D'Italia asked from the bench, "What would happen if Booth showed up to represent the City and his partner, Barry, showed up to represent the HCIA?" Privately, city officials asked, "Why would a guy resign and withdraw from a lucrative law firm. And why would a guy get his partner to give up a lucrative law client, the HCIA, just to keep a city job that does not pay all that well?" Salary for the Corporation Counsel job at stake is $55,000 a vcar, far less than an attorney, and obviously way less than two attorneys in an active, politically connected private practice could make. "What gets me," said the official, who asked that his name not be used. "is that it will probably cost more than that salary to pay all these lawyers by the time this is over, no matter who wins. Booth is forcing the City to fritter away more money than he will get paid. Why would he do that, when he could make far more in private practice?" When Cunningham delivered his termination letter to Booth, with copies to members of the Council, Booth resigned his partnership in the law firm. Cunningham's letter to Booth gave reasons for the termi- nation that included a lack of trust and con- fidence and this apparent conflict of inter- est. But Booth's wife took his place at the law firm maintaining the Booth name in the firm's title and participation in the profits of the firm. Booth did not discuss details of the compensation. Cunningham also cited a Jersey City ordinance requiring that the service of the Corporation Counsel, head of the City's Law Depaitinent, required the full time of the office holder. Booth acknowledges that he himself was active in his private practice even while his wife stood in for him in the partnership. Booth also argued that the suit did not even belong in court in the first place because it would interfere in the separation of powers between the executive branch of government, the Mayor, and the legislative branch, the Council. The City Council sided with Booth and overrode the Mayor's termina- tion and that should have ended the matter argued Booth's attorney, and the attorney for the City Council. Booth, by refusing to accept the termination, compels the city to fund the Mayor's only alternative, taking Booth to court. Naturally, the Corporation Counsel must be represented as must the City Counsel as well z ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 403 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2003 at 05:42:43 Subject: COUNCIL TO APPROVE BUDGET, BUT PROPERTY SALE RAISES NEW RISK TO TAXES, FIRE AND POLICE HIRES COUNCIL TO APPROVE BUDGET, BUT PROPERTY SALE RAISES NEW RISK TO TAXES, FIRE AND POLICE HIRES Urban Times News April 11-April 17, 2003 By Steven Glazer Jersey City-Council Members sig- naled their willingness to approve Mayor Glenn Cunningham's amended budget pro- posal after a week's delay for maneuvering calculated for political appearances. But as one threat to the city's financial stability was neutralized, another popped up heralded by the appearance of Suzanne Mack, executive director of the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency, at the Council's Caucus meeting. Mack told Council members that she could not give a firm date for the expected closing of a key property sale that would give the city the funds needed to balance the budget. The property sale involves the purchase by the Board of Education of City-owned prop- erty at Pershing Field that nets the city $4.3 Million dollars, already counted in the budget. The sale is not in doubt and is already contracted between the City and its Board of Education. The time element is the risk. explained Cunningham. If the sale does not close in time, the budget will not be able to be balanced except by drastic meas- ures like tax hikes, layoffs or some combi- nation of the two, according to Business Administrator Carlton McGee. In political maneuvering a week earlier, the council balked at approving a financing plan for the Municipal Utility Authority that would have covered the current budget shortfall. Cunningham responded by calling a meet- ing of the heads of the city's labor unions to explain that if the plan were not approved he would have no alternative but to institute massive layoffs including police and fire personnel. Some 38 Fire Department recruits have become virtual hostages in the political wrangling between Mayor and Council. Cunningham promised to hire the recruits, expecting to have funds in the coming budg- et to pay them with. Since he made that promise, the Council has blocked economy measures that would have made the funds available to pay the recruits and then obstructed a bond sale that would have pro- duced other funds to enable the city to pay the recruits. Once the obstacles to the bond sale were resolved and the sale effected, the State slashed aid to the city, also factored into the budget, based on earlier representa- tions to city officials by the state. Cunningham's finance chief, Carlton McGee presented a budget proposal incorporating those representations calling for state aid of S10.5 Million to distressed cities. Instead, the state funded only $2 Million leaving an 58.5 hole in the city's budget plan. Jersey City, with a population of 240,000, will receive half as much State aid under the distressed cities program as Harrison with a population of 14,000. Cunningham and his finance team had on the back burner a plan to restructure the Municipal Utility Authority in a way that would produce a three year infusion of $42 Million, solving a host of problems, not only this year, but two years ahead, and according to Cunningham, thereafter. Council members, led by Council President L. Harvey Smith, pleaded igno- rance of the plan, though copies in full mind-numbing detail were delivered to all Council members in late November. Smith asked for more time to study the proposal even as the Business Administrator. McGee, explained that the time was grow- ing dangerously short to meet all the required deadlines. Smith also told the Council that delay on the measure had already cost the city considerably as inter- est rates had risen since the plan was first introduced. It was agreed that more time could be arranged and that officials of the MUA could come to a specially called Council meeting to walk Council members through the proposal. The city's Keystone Council, again led by Uncle Harvey Smith, in a thin- ly disguised political maneuver, boycotted their own specially called meeting. Council members asked for a detailed explanation that would allow them to decide on a finance proposal by the Municipal Utility Authority. The MUA plan would virtually assure stable taxes for three years in addi- tion to solving some problems with the MUA's own capital structure. By missing the specially scheduled meeting, the coun- cil puts the city at risk of missing deadlines that must be met to implement the plan before the end of the fiscal year, June 30. If those deadlines are not met the results would be either a tax increase for property owners, massive layoffs of city workers, including police and fire fighters, or both, according to Mayor Glenn Cunningham. Cunningham told the group of fire recruits who came to attend the expect- ed meeting that he had sent a letter earlier in the day to the City's Fire Director to pre- pare to hire them immediately once the budget had been approved. Cunningham got the Fire Director on a cell phone with the speaker feature turned on. With the phone on "speaker" Fire Director Jerry Cala told the assembled recruits that earlier that morning when he got the Mayor's let- ter, he had already begun making prepara- tions to start processing the new class of recruits immediately after the Mayor's budget proposal passed. Cala could be heard on the speakerphone that once the budget was approved it would take two weeks to get the class of recruits into the hiring process and on their way to the acad- emy. It was clear that the conversation between the Mayor and Fire Director occurred well before either knew that the Keystone Council would be a no-show later in the day at the special budget meet- ing. Cunningham told the recruits "Not only will I not be able to hire you without the budget, but I will have to make massive layoffs all through the City gov- ernment." Cunningham's budget proposal depends on the refinancing of the Municipal Utility Authority to produce suf- ficient funds to hold taxes level, hire the fire recruits as promised and add police. Without that financing, there will be a deficit requiring either a tax increase or lay- offs or both to produce a balanced budget. Cunningham told the recruits that this was a purely political maneuver to make him look bad, seen either as reneging on his promise to hire the recruits or raising taxes. One of the recruits, who declined to give his name, told Cunningham that they understood what was going on in the political game saying, "We know it wasn't Harvey Smith, it was you who appointed us." Cunningham distributed to the recruits a copy of the letter addressed to Fire Director Cala saying the recruits would be hired, as would additional police, just as soon as the budget was approved and he could be sure the funds were in hand. But the council's absence from the special meeting puts the entire budget at risk to complete all the necessary steps in time to satisfy all the deadlines. City Clerk Robert Byrne explained that it would still be possi- ble with the Council's cooperation to meet and approve the necessary ordinances by April 9th to get the money in the City's accounts in time to avert a Council engi- neered disaster. "I can't hire you until I have the money to pay you. And I won't be able to pay you until I have an approved budget with money it to pay you with," Cunningham told the recruits z ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 404 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2003 at 05:45:02 Subject: MARSHAL BACKS BAD GUYS OFF-RUN 'EM OUT OF TOWN NEXT MARSHAL BACKS BAD GUYS OFF-RUN 'EM OUT OF TOWN NEXT Urban Times News April 11-April 17, 2003 By J.A. Andrews Jersey City-It was like showing a cross to a vampire. "The bad guys just can't stand to see that badge," said Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham. When a cam- paign ad appeared that included the mar- shal's badge he used to wear, Cunningham's political opponents reacted like any normal bad guys would, says the former US Marshal and US Marine. Cunningham is running for the State Senate in the 31st District. It is not just symbolic, explains Cunningham. "The real reason they hate to see that badge is the background check. In order to become a US Marshal I had to go through a background check by the FBI that took as long as it takes to have a baby: nine months. They checked me 10 ways from Sunday," said Cunningham, the former US Marshal. "They found out things about me that I did not know myself. If there had been the least little thing in my past, any- thing at all, I would have gotten knocked out of the box. But, of course, there is nothing and I did become a US Marshal. That is why the bad guys cannot stand to see the symbol. It stands for everything they are not and cannot ever be." Cunningham included a likeness of the US Marshal's badge he used to wear in his campaign ad in a local newspaper that also showed him in uniform when he was a US Marine. Cunningham says that he got a phone call from an official with the US Marshal service in Washington, DC. The official said that his office had gotten a phone call from the office of Congressman Bob Menendez D-13. Menendez later denied to the local paper that carried the ad that he had made the call or that the call had come from his office. It was evident that the US Marshall's service had gotten a com- plaint either directly from Menendez or someone in his office or indirectly through the Hudson County Democratic Organization which he and his attorney Donald Scarinci dominate. Scarinci i, Treasurer of the Menendez for Congress and the Hudson County Democratic Organization also. Regardless the exact ori- gin of the call, the US Marshal's service fell compelled to contact Cunningham. "I had three choices then," said Cunningham. "Either I give in and take the badge out of the ad or I refuse to take the badge out of the ad. I would not consider either of these two alternatives. The other choice was to include a disclaimer in any future ads saying that no endorsement of my candidacy for 31st District Senate seal is implied. So when you see future cam- paign ads there will be a disclaimer of endorsement. And then we'll run the bad guys out of town. I wonder why they did not call the Marine Corps also, while they were at it. I really did serve in the US Marine Corps, too," said Cunningham with a grin. "Maybe they would like a disclaimer from the Corps too." Regardless exact details and legal fine points, there is no love lost between the good guys and bad guys in this real-life political melodrama z ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 405 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2003 at 05:48:22 Subject: HUDSON COUNTY CAMPAIGN BEGINS IN EARNEST WITH SMEAR CAMPAIGN HUDSON COUNTY CAMPAIGN BEGINS IN EARNEST WITH SMEAR CAMPAIGN Urban Times News April 11-April 17, 2003 UTN NEWS ANALYSIS JERSEY CITY "I would like nothing better than for the so-called organi- zation to come at us with everything they think they have," said Mayor Glenn Cunningham is response to a press release from the Hudson County Democratic Organization hinting at irregularities in his campaign fundraising. "The best thing that could happen is for a state investigation of the campaign finance of Cunningham for Mayor and other committees," said Cunningham. "This is a farce. Just look what we have here. Just the stationary is hysterical. The list of committee officers reads like the Hudson County payroll and the Hudson County Improvement Authority. This is exactly what I have been talking about. Most of the persons who have obstructed the operation of good government in Jersey City are listed as some officer, and almost without exception, they all have jobs as well with the County of Hudson or The Hudson County Improvement Authority. That is the 'organization.' "Please note who is 'treasur- er' " said Cunningham, pointing to the name of Donald Scarinci. Scarinci was recently implicated in the scandal involving the State Parole Board's release of Genovese crime family Capo Angelo Prisco. Prisco was denied parole twice, but then hired Scarinci and was then paroled and released shortly after retaining Scarinci's legal services. Scarinci denied that there was any impropriety or undue influence involved in the Parole Board's decision. But the office of US Attorney Christopher Christie has begun an investigation into charges that the Parole board was pressured by Governor McGreevey's office to grant the parole after Prisco retained Scarinci to represent him. State Senator Robert Martin R-Morris said that there had not only been interference from the Governor's office in the Parole Board's decision on Prisco's parole, but in other cases as well. Scarinici is an attorney who is paired with Congressman Bob Menendez D- 13 and is also Treasurer of Menendez for Congress. Together the two are sometimes referred to as the Don and the Donald, hav- ing risen ranidlv together over the last 15 years through Hudson County politics to become power figures on the state and national level. Scarinci founded his law firm at the same time Menendez began his political career and has grown his shop to one of the top law firms in the state in a phe- nomenally short time, and now including 46 attorneys with annual billings in excess of $20 Million. Menendez followed a parallel track simultaneously mirroring the ascen- dancy of his high school pal in public life and is now considered the third ranking democrat in the House of Representatives. "I wonder if either of them could have done so much in so short a time with out a little help from the other, one hand washing the other." Ed Cheatham is the supposed source of all the comments in the so-called release from the HCDO. It is doubtful that Cheatham has had as much to say in his entire public life as is quoted in the release. The normally taciturn Board of Education member happens to be African American and can disparage Cunningham at will with- out risk of even the appearance of racism from the white-dominated Hudson County Democratic Organization. Cunningham's con- stituency is widely diverse, but centered in the pre- dominantly African American Ward F of Jersey City at the center of the 31 st District Senate Race. "By using Cheatham, it's like they use Uncle Harvey, trying to make it look like different members of the commu- nity are against Glenn," said Cunningham's advisors. "It is exactly like Harvey-another case of biting the hand that fed you. Cheatham may have forgotten but we did not. Maybe this would be a good opportu- nity to remind him of the real reason that he "resigned," from the Port Authority." The real reason Cheatham left the Port Authority was that a locker search turned up a quantity of contraband, accord- ing to those unimpeachable sources, who in fact advised Cheatham at the time of the incident. Cheatham was given the opportu- nity to resign with benefits and without scandal, or if he chose to fight, he would risk termination, loss of all benefits, and even prosecution on drug charges. Cheatham wisely took the deal and left the Port Authority without a commotion but had always remained guarded about his true rea- son for leaving ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 406 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2003 at 13:05:57 Subject: NJN Video: Menendez Against McGreevey Supreme Court Nomination Wallace's good fortune is Zulima Farber's bad fortune. For the NJN video, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** olonam posted Message 407 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2003 at 23:08:35 Subject: Manolo is an oreo cookie .................... white in the middle surrounded by the black cookie ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 408 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 16, 2003 at 09:39:08 Subject: NJN Video: Jersey City Seeks Increased Homeland Security Funding To view the NJN video, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Edw. A. Allen posted Message 409 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 16, 2003 at 14:16:47 Subject: Menendez finance violations FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE MENENDEZ ACCUSED OF CAMPAIGN FUNDING VIOLATIONS Jersey City—Community Leaders will convene at 11am on Thursday April 17th called by Rev. Edward A. Alllen National Board Member of Operation PUSH, for a press conference on violations of the Federal Election Law by Congressman Robert Menendez. The conference, to be held at Congressman Menendez’ office at 911 Bergen Avenue in Jersey City, follows the filing of a formal complaint against Rep. Robert Menendez D-13, with the Federal Elections Commission, charging violations of the new campaign finance laws. Allen, a lifelong resident, active in local politics for 30 years, and currently a member of the Jersey City Board of Education, says “ In all the time that I have been active and involved I have never witnessed the arrogance and abuse of power exercised by our Congressman, Robert Menendez, D-13. CONTACT REVEREND EDW. A. ALLEN (732) 921-0044 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reverend Edward Allen posted Message 410 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 17, 2003 at 13:00:44 Subject: Campaign Finance Abuse Complaint Letter to FEC REV. EDWARD ALLEN 632 GARFIELD AVENUE JERSEY CITY NJ 07305 Tuesday, April 15, 2003 Federal Election Commission 999 E Street NW Washington DC 20463 To Whom It May Concern: This letter serves as formal notice to the Federal Election Committee (“FEC”) that New Jersey’s 13th District Congressman, Robert “Bob” Menendez (“Mr. Menendez”) is in direct violation of 11CFR Part 300, Subpart D, “Candidates and Officeholders/” BCRA places limits on the amounts and types of funds that can be raised by Federal candidates and Officeholders for both Federal and State candidates (See 2 USC 444 I (e)). The regulations that address these limitations are found in 11 CFR, Part 300 Subpart D (“Code”). In § 300,60 the Code mandates that restrictions apply only to “Federal candidates and officeholders, their agents, and entities directly or indirectly established, maintained, or controlled by, or acting on behalf of, any such candidates(s) or officeholders(s).” It is beyond contention that Mr. Menendez holds a Federal office and therefore a recitation of the definition of “Federal Office” will be dispensed with. In addition\, Donald Scarinci is Mr. Menendez’ long time friend and Treasurer and otherwise agent, and therefore his conduct is limited by the rule as well. Pursuant to Code § 300.61, a Federal candidate or officeholder is prohibited from, soliciting, receiving, directing, transferring, or spending non-federal funds in connection with an election for federal office, including funds for any federal election activity described in 11 CFR 100.24. (After opening this section to debate, the Commission added the word “disburse” to the list of covered activities in § 300.61). Importantly, according to Code § 300.62, any federal candidate or officeholder, his or her agent, successors or assigns is prohibited from: [r]aising, receiving, directing, transferring, or spending or disbursing funds in connection with any non-federal election, unless the funds are not in excess amounts permitted with respect to contributions to candidates and political committees and are not from sources prohibited by the act from making contributions in connection with federal elections. (See, 2 USC 441 (I)(e)(1)(B). In their comments for this provision, and specifically in connection with the restrictions on the solicitation and spending of non-federal funds by federal officeholders, the co-sponsors of the bill stated that these provisions were part of a “system of prohibitions and limitations on the ability of federal officeholders and candidates, to raise, spend and control soft money [in order] to stop the use of soft money as a means of buying influence and access with federal officeholders and candidates.” See 148 Cong. Rec. S2139 (Daily Ed. March 20, 2002) (Statement of Sen. McCain). Accordingly, the Commission has allowed candidates to solicit, receive, direct, transfer, spend or disburse funds in connection with federal and non-federal elections only from sources permitted under the Act and pursuant to the Acts combined amounts and contribution limits. The Commission is also of the opinion that Code § 300.62 does not permit federal candidates and officeholders to utilize non-federal funds for federal elections. There are several exceptions to the fundraising prohibitions for non-federal candidates, as well as for federal candidates and officeholders attending, speaking, or appearing as a featured guest at fundraising events. (See, respectively 11 CFR 300.63 and 300.64). After much debate as to the proper involvement a federal candidate may have at a fundraising event. The following is an excerpt from the Federal Register, Vol. 67, No. 145, Monday, July 29, 2002, Rules and Regulations, and is directly on point: “Accordingly, candidates and officeholders are free under the rules to speak at such functions without regulation or restriction…The Commission concludes, however, that federal candidates and officeholders are prohibited from serving as “Host Committees” for a party fundraising event or from personally signing a solicitation in connection with a state, local, or district party fundraising event, on the basis that these pre-event activities and outside the permissible activities described above flowing from a federal candidate or officeholder’s appearance or attendance at the event. “ Congressman Bob Menendez has directly solicited funds for the Hudson County Democratic Committee and has even employed his agent, Donald Scarinci, to do the same. In addition, Mr. Menendez, along with Donald Scarinci, controls the fundraising apparatus of the Hudson County Democratic Committee. In this vein, Mr. Menendez does more than speak at these fundraising events, he organizes them. Certainly, the Congressman’s name is not directly connected with these fundraising efforts; it is clear from the sameness of their donor base that Donald Scarinci is acting on direct orders from the Congressman. Finally, the Congressman’s action, along with Donald Scarinci is in direct violation of the spirit of the Act. Countless people considering make a contribution to a different organization, one not a part of the Congressman’s inner circle, have been threatened and told to re-evaluate whence their hard-earned dollars should b spent. It is clear that the law was established just so these types of actions would not be utilized. It is clear that Mr. Menendez, perhaps because of the reputation of Hudson County politics thinks that the law does not apply to him. But it does and I humbly request you investigate Mr. Menendez’ and his agent, Donald Scarinci’s activities with respect to his illegal fundraising. Very Truly Yours, Reverend Edward Allen ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rev. Edward Allen posted Message 411 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 17, 2003 at 13:16:49 Subject: Rev. Allen Remarks "Letter to The Editor" Rev. Edward Allen 632 Garfield Avenue Jersey City NJ 07305 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 Dear Sir or Madame, I am a lifelong resident, active in local politics for 30 years, and currently a member of the Jersey City Board of Education. In all the time that I have been active and involved I have never witnessed the arrogance and abuse of power exercised by our Congressman, Robert Menendez, D-13. As a lawmaker, one of Mr. Menendez’ highest duties is to uphold the laws of the land—all of them. We find, sadly, to the contrary, that Mr. Menendez consistently places himself above the law. We have seen egregious examples recently. During the past holiday season, he met with a majority and quorum of the Jersey City council without giving prior notice to the public in open defiance of the Open Meetings Act, the so-called sunshine law. He incited Council members to resist and obstruct the operation of government in Jersey City, by his control of party purse strings through his agent and long-time friend and associate, attorney Donald Scarinci. Scarinci is Treasurer of the Hudson County Democratic Organization and also Treasurer of Menendez for Congress. By tugging on these purse strings, with the aid of Scarinci, Menendez is able to make our local lawmakers dance like marionettes in a Punch and Judy show. Half the Jersey City Council has full time, mostly no-show, little work jobs in the government of the County of Hudson, by appointment through the Hudson County Democratic Organization. This gives Menendez more direct and forceful control over these local lawmakers and administrators, through their salaries and the power to turn them on and off at will. Newly enacted election law reforms were put in place exactly to stop abuses like these that have gone on too long. Mr. Menendez knows the law very well and is able to skirt it, doing violence to the spirit of the law if not the actual letter of it. The new laws strictly limit funds and the types of funds that can be raised by federal and state candidates and how those funds may be used. The law is clear on strict limits it places on the ability of a federal office holder like Mr. Menendez using his position and influence of the federal office he holds to raise money for local elections as Mr. Menendez has been doing. Menendez uses the power and influence of his federal office to raise money to fund local campaigns at the municipal, and county level acting by and through the Hudson County Democratic Organization. The Hudson County Democratic Organization then orchestrates local campaigns implemented with funds raised by Mr. Menendez. The duplicity and hypocrisy of Mr. Menendez is outrageous when we see him just weeks earlier marching with Civil Rights leaders symbolically re-crossing the Edmund Pettus bridge. Then the Congressman comes home to obstruct and, through his paid agents on the Jersey City Council, thwart efforts to govern New Jersey’s second largest city by its first African American Mayor, Glenn Cunningham. Menendez has now turned his ire on the Governor who did not appoint Menendez’ choice of jurists to the state’s Supreme Court. Governor McGreevey appointed an exceptionally qualified African American jurist in place of Menendez’ choice of a Cuban. Menendez constantly hides behind the Hispanic label. Look at the record and you will see that to Mr. Menendez, Hispanic or Latino means one thing and one thing only: Cuban. Menendez is an Hispanic who does not respond to the needs of his Puerto Rican constituents, in his definition of Hispanic. Menendez does not respond to the needs of Dominican constituents in his definition of Hispanic. To Menendez Hispanic and Latino mean the same thing and they mean one thing only: Cuban. And Cuban does not include African American, Venezuelan, or a host of other ethnic groups. It means the smallest segment of the Hispanic population. Menendez is allegedly a party leader uniting Democrats nationally. Instead, he is dividing Democrats locally in his self-serving strategy of divide and conquer. Menendez is the problem. Menendez is the living example of “Do as I say and not as I do.” His misuse of power and abuse of the public trust of his office mark him as no leader at all, but as a man without integrity. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 412 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 17, 2003 at 14:36:08 Subject: Video: Reverend Allen Speaks Out Against Congressman Menendez Reverend Allen accuses Congressman Menendez of ill-conceived policies and abuses of power.Video - Part A Video - Part B ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth will set you free posted Message 413 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 18, 2003 at 16:20:12 Subject: It's all good but............................. A well written speech, big words, and a tat of eloquence but, its lacking one thing …..Credibility! You preach a good preach but again no credibility. Let us go to the time machine. Is it true that your closest friend, the person who helped you master mind this bogus attack is Bobby Jackson? The same Bobby Jackson who teamed up with Gerry McCann who were both charged with civil rights violations, the men who broke federal election laws trying to stop African Americans from Voting in Jersey City……….it’s all about credibility Rev. and you got NONE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 414 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 18, 2003 at 17:20:57 Subject: Civil rights leader lashes out at Menendez Civil rights leader lashes out at Menendez Posted at NorthJersey.com Friday, April 18, 2003 By ANDREW GLAZER STAFF WRITER A black civil rights leader on Thursday accused Rep. Robert Menendez of illegally raising money for local Democrats - part of the continuing fallout from Governor McGreevey's appointment of a black judge to the Supreme Court. The Rev. Edward Allen said he filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission to protest Menendez's criticism of the court appointment. In an unusually public intraparty dispute, Menendez has attacked McGreevey for passing over a Hispanic woman for the post. Allen, a Newark pastor and national board member of the Rev. Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, described Menendez's push for more Hispanics in Trenton as "race-baiting." "Mr. Menendez believes he should use power of his to dislodge African-Americans from posts and positions of power they earned through service to the state," Allen said. . . . For the rest of the article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NorthJersey.com posted Message 415 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 18, 2003 at 18:57:52 Subject: Re: Civil rights leader lashes out at Menendez : Civil rights leader lashes out at Menendez : Posted at NorthJersey.com : Friday, April 18, 2003 : By STEVEN GLAZER : STAFF WRITER : A black civil rights leader on Thursday accused Rep. Robert Menendez of illegally raising money for local Democrats - part of the continuing fallout from Governor McGreevey's appointment of a black judge to the Supreme Court. : The Rev. Edward Allen said he filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission to protest Menendez's criticism of the court appointment. In an unusually public intraparty dispute, Menendez has attacked McGreevey for passing over a Hispanic woman for the post. : Allen, a Newark pastor and national board member of the Rev. Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, described Menendez's push for more Hispanics in Trenton as "race-baiting." : "Mr. Menendez believes he should use power of his to dislodge African-Americans from posts and positions of power they earned through service to the state," Allen said. : . . . : For the rest of the article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 416 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 18, 2003 at 19:42:55 Subject: Civil rights leader lashes out at Menendez Civil rights leader lashes out at Menendez Bergen Record Friday, April 18, 2003 By ANDREW GLAZER STAFF WRITER A black civil rights leader on Thursday accused Rep. Robert Menendez of illegally raising money for local Democrats - part of the continuing fallout from Governor McGreevey's appointment of a black judge to the Supreme Court. The Rev. Edward Allen said he filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission to protest Menendez's criticism of the court appointment. In an unusually public intraparty dispute, Menendez has attacked McGreevey for passing over a Hispanic woman for the post. Allen, a Newark pastor and national board member of the Rev. Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, described Menendez's push for more Hispanics in Trenton as "race-baiting." "Mr. Menendez believes he should use power of his to dislodge African-Americans from posts and positions of power they earned through service to the state," Allen said. . . . For the rest of the article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 417 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 18, 2003 at 20:10:49 Subject: Re: Civil rights leader lashes out at Menendez : Civil rights leader lashes out at Menendez : Bergen Record : Friday, April 18, 2003 : By STEVEN GLAZER : STAFF WRITER : A black civil rights leader on Thursday accused Rep. Robert Menendez of illegally raising money for local Democrats - part of the continuing fallout from Governor McGreevey's appointment of a black judge to the Supreme Court. : The Rev. Edward Allen said he filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission to protest Menendez's criticism of the court appointment. In an unusually public intraparty dispute, Menendez has attacked McGreevey for passing over a Hispanic woman for the post. : Allen, a Newark pastor and national board member of the Rev. Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, described Menendez's push for more Hispanics in Trenton as "race-baiting." : "Mr. Menendez believes he should use power of his to dislodge African-Americans from posts and positions of power they earned through service to the state," Allen said. : . . . : For the rest of the article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** newportlady posted Message 418 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2003 at 18:58:42 Subject: lite reading words HOME pictures Source the Quote "Jersey City is a political town and we have certain rules and regulations here, and since your company has never done any business with us before, I want to inform you as to what these rules and regulations are." "It's not a bribe, it's a gratuity." "I will opt for creative financing every time." "We know that Jersey City can be America's most livable city." "You can see the whole world and not leave Jersey City... Together we can make Jersey City a slice of heaven." "They called it the Jersey City Renaissance. But [he] knew its Medicis and its Borgias and its Sforzas from the old days. It was a renaissance of condominiums and kickbacks, ready-mixed concrete and plasterboard walls, glass and aluminum and the cheapest wiring money could buy. None of it would last as long as the pier-pilings that had stood in its place." "I forgot more than he'll ever know." "Jesus was not a wimp. He was a tough guy." "We were friends." "When you stop sin, Father, I'll stop all the problems of Jersey City." "I don't think the people turned their backs on me." "The political leader is a fact of life in America. The system can't function without him." "Nobody hates Bret Schundler." "I regard the fall of the Berlin Wall the and election of Bret Schundler in Jersey City as comparable events." "Maybe we can have the facilities to fix somebody's hair up." "We can't afford to listen to these cries of humanity." "Any publicity is good publicity." "To my knowledge, I was born in jersey City, and have lived here all my life." "You don't even know who your father is." "The problem with Jersey City is the spending of the money." "The city has not paid a nickel for the [chromium] fill." "Tomorrow, the work starts." Louie Brunellesches Rudolph Contey Thomas Gangemi Newt Gingrich Robert 'Cash' Janiszewski Gerald McCann Bernard Murphy Liam Neeson Joseph Rakowski Bret Schundler Joseph Soriero Thomas Whelan Jaime Vazquez Answers Jersey City is a political town and we have certain rules and regulations here, and since your company has never done any business with us before, I want to inform you as to what these rules and regulations are. Bernard Murphy, a city purchasing agent who was convicted of conspiracy, bribery and extortion in 1971. It's not a bribe, it's a gratuity. Liam Neeson in Schindler's List, bartering diamonds at Auschwitz. I will opt for creative financing every time. Robert 'Cash' Janiszewski. Creative financing is certainly called for to pay some of those county salaries, Robert. By the way, how do you find the '94 Grand Marquis? Suits you? Glad we could all help. We know that Jersey City can be America's most livable city. You can see the whole world and not leave Jersey City... Together we can make Jersey City a slice of heaven. Bret Schundler. No comment. Apropos Bob's Marquis, we'd like to pass along some info. provided by the mayor's PR dept.: apparently a local auto dealership leases a car to Schundler for $1 a year. See, leasing is better than buying. They called it the Jersey City Renaissance. But [he] knew its Medicis and its Borgias and its Sforzas from the old days. It was a renaissance of condominiums and kickbacks, ready-mixed concrete and plasterboard walls, glass and aluminum and the cheapest wiring money could buy. None of it would last as long as the pier-pilings that had stood in its place. Louie Brunellesches, a character in Nick Tosches's 1988 novel Cut Numbers. Excerpt reprinted with permission from Harmony Books. I forgot more than he'll ever know. Gerald McCann, in a prison interview. Jesus was not a wimp. He was a tough guy. Bret Schundler We were friends. Rudolph Contey, reminiscing at Allen Manzo's trial for aggravated assault for hitting Contey with a tire iron. Manzo was cleared. When you stop sin, Father, I'll stop all the problems of Jersey City. Gerald McCann, in a chance street encounter with a priest. I don't think the people turned their backs on me. Gerald McCann, while residing in Allenwood. The political leader is a fact of life in America. The system can't function without him. Thomas Whelan, in a Wall Street Journal article circa 1966. Nobody hates Bret Schundler. Joseph Rakowski, who must have no pride of authorship of his various letters to the editor. I regard the fall of the Berlin Wall the and election of Bret Schundler in Jersey City as comparable events. Former academic Newt Gingrich, who may have a sense of history, but not of proportion. Maybe we can have the facilities to fix somebody's hair up. Joseph Rakowski, fleshing out his remarks concerning the possibility that the homeless might benefit from aerobics. We'd guess that he'd just had lunch with Newt Gingrich, but the timing is wrong. We can't afford to listen to these cries of humanity. Thomas Whelan, whist trimming the city payroll. Any publicity is good publicity. Another face of Gerald McCann: the ad exec. To my knowledge, I was born in jersey City, and have live here all my life. Thomas Gangemi. The mayor scheduled a stop to Genoa, Italy in 1963 to accompany a man named Christopher Columbus back to Jersey City to take part in Columbus Day festivities. As a formality, the type of which we all go through, Gangemi was asked to prove his citizenship, couldn't, and naturally had to resign his post. (He was found to be a lawful citizen of Calabria, Italy. He later became a naturalized US citizen.) Kind of a shame, as he was the city's pioneer mayor elected under the Faulkner Act, which changed the form of government from mayor-commissioner to mayor-council. Thus did he become the city's first mayor directly elected by the people and de-elected by INS. You don't even know who your father is. Gerald McCann. Despite the elegant positioning, we do not know the true context for this remark. We're told he also called people ugly. The problem with Jersey City is the spending of the money. Gerald McCann The city has not paid a nickel for the [chromium] fill. Joseph Soriero, onetime city commissioner, referring to chromium landfill, proving again that the best things in life aren't always free. Tomorrow, the work starts. Jaime Vazquez's slogan while running for council in 1993. He later changed it to 'Mayor Schundler Team' to avoid even the appearance of action verbs. Another candidate for council, Francis O. Thompson, side-stepped the question of grammar altogether by choosing 'Thompson Better Quality.' Win she didn't. Most quotes courtesy The Jersey Journal and the Jersey City Reporter, so we cannot positively vouch for their accuracy. But thanks for the legwork, guys. Light Reading ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weezer posted Message 419 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2003 at 19:11:52 Subject: Re: lite reading I lived in Jersey City all my life, but I just guess that I'm dumb or something. Even after working for the City for a couple of years I was surprised when a supplier told me (with an innocent look on his face, yet) that before he put in a bid, he needed to know how much of a commission he had to figger in for me! Christie, if your lurking, I gave the guy a lecture that I expected him to make money and I expected the people of Jersey City to get the best deal, but I wasn't taking a dime! : : : Source the Quote : "Jersey City is a political town and we have certain rules and regulations here, and since your company has never done any business with us before, I want to inform you as to what these rules and regulations are." : "It's not a bribe, it's a gratuity." : "I will opt for creative financing every time." : "We know that Jersey City can be America's most livable city." "You can see the whole world and not leave Jersey City... Together we can make Jersey City a slice of heaven." : "They called it the Jersey City Renaissance. But [he] knew its Medicis and its Borgias and its Sforzas from the old days. It was a renaissance of condominiums and kickbacks, ready-mixed concrete and plasterboard walls, glass and aluminum and the cheapest wiring money could buy. None of it would last as long as the pier-pilings that had stood in its place." : "I forgot more than he'll ever know." : "Jesus was not a wimp. He was a tough guy." : "We were friends." : "When you stop sin, Father, I'll stop all the problems of Jersey City." : "I don't think the people turned their backs on me." : "The political leader is a fact of life in America. The system can't function without him." : "Nobody hates Bret Schundler." : "I regard the fall of the Berlin Wall the and election of Bret Schundler in Jersey City as comparable events." : "Maybe we can have the facilities to fix somebody's hair up." : "We can't afford to listen to these cries of humanity." : "Any publicity is good publicity." : "To my knowledge, I was born in jersey City, and have lived here all my life." : "You don't even know who your father is." : "The problem with Jersey City is the spending of the money." : "The city has not paid a nickel for the [chromium] fill." : "Tomorrow, the work starts." : Louie Brunellesches : Rudolph Contey : Thomas Gangemi : Newt Gingrich : Robert 'Cash' Janiszewski : Gerald McCann : Bernard Murphy : Liam Neeson : Joseph Rakowski : Bret Schundler : Joseph Soriero : Thomas Whelan : Jaime Vazquez : : : Answers : Jersey City is a political town and we have certain rules and regulations here, and since your company has never done any business with us before, I want to inform you as to what these rules and regulations are. : Bernard Murphy, a city purchasing agent who was convicted of conspiracy, bribery and extortion in 1971. : It's not a bribe, it's a gratuity. : Liam Neeson in Schindler's List, bartering diamonds at Auschwitz. : I will opt for creative financing every time. : Robert 'Cash' Janiszewski. Creative financing is certainly called for to pay some of those county salaries, Robert. By the way, how do you find the '94 Grand Marquis? Suits you? Glad we could all help. : We know that Jersey City can be America's most livable city. : You can see the whole world and not leave Jersey City... : Together we can make Jersey City a slice of heaven. : Bret Schundler. No comment. Apropos Bob's Marquis, we'd like to pass along some info. provided by the mayor's PR dept.: apparently a local auto dealership leases a car to Schundler for $1 a year. See, leasing is better than buying. : They called it the Jersey City Renaissance. But [he] knew its Medicis and its Borgias and its Sforzas from the old days. It was a renaissance of condominiums and kickbacks, ready-mixed concrete and plasterboard walls, glass and aluminum and the cheapest wiring money could buy. None of it would last as long as the pier-pilings that had stood in its place. : Louie Brunellesches, a character in Nick Tosches's 1988 novel Cut Numbers. Excerpt reprinted with permission from Harmony Books. : I forgot more than he'll ever know. : Gerald McCann, in a prison interview. : Jesus was not a wimp. He was a tough guy. : Bret Schundler : We were friends. : Rudolph Contey, reminiscing at Allen Manzo's trial for aggravated assault for hitting Contey with a tire iron. Manzo was cleared. : When you stop sin, Father, I'll stop all the problems of Jersey City. : Gerald McCann, in a chance street encounter with a priest. : I don't think the people turned their backs on me. : Gerald McCann, while residing in Allenwood. : The political leader is a fact of life in America. The system can't function without him. : Thomas Whelan, in a Wall Street Journal article circa 1966. : Nobody hates Bret Schundler. : Joseph Rakowski, who must have no pride of authorship of his various letters to the editor. : I regard the fall of the Berlin Wall the and election of Bret Schundler in Jersey City as comparable events. : Former academic Newt Gingrich, who may have a sense of history, but not of proportion. : Maybe we can have the facilities to fix somebody's hair up. : Joseph Rakowski, fleshing out his remarks concerning the possibility that the homeless might benefit from aerobics. We'd guess that he'd just had lunch with Newt Gingrich, but the timing is wrong. : We can't afford to listen to these cries of humanity. : Thomas Whelan, whist trimming the city payroll. : Any publicity is good publicity. : Another face of Gerald McCann: the ad exec. : To my knowledge, I was born in jersey City, and have live here all my life. : Thomas Gangemi. The mayor scheduled a stop to Genoa, Italy in 1963 to accompany a man named Christopher Columbus back to Jersey City to take part in Columbus Day festivities. As a formality, the type of which we all go through, Gangemi was asked to prove his citizenship, couldn't, and naturally had to resign his post. (He was found to be a lawful citizen of Calabria, Italy. He later became a naturalized US citizen.) Kind of a shame, as he was the city's pioneer mayor elected under the Faulkner Act, which changed the form of government from mayor-commissioner to mayor-council. Thus did he become the city's first mayor directly elected by the people and de-elected by INS. : You don't even know who your father is. : Gerald McCann. Despite the elegant positioning, we do not know the true context for this remark. We're told he also called people ugly. : The problem with Jersey City is the spending of the money. : Gerald McCann : The city has not paid a nickel for the [chromium] fill. : Joseph Soriero, onetime city commissioner, referring to chromium landfill, proving again that the best things in life aren't always free. : Tomorrow, the work starts. : Jaime Vazquez's slogan while running for council in 1993. He later changed it to 'Mayor Schundler Team' to avoid even the appearance of action verbs. Another candidate for council, Francis O. Thompson, side-stepped the question of grammar altogether by choosing 'Thompson Better Quality.' Win she didn't. : : Most quotes courtesy The Jersey Journal and the Jersey City Reporter, : so we cannot positively vouch for their accuracy. But thanks for the legwork, guys. : : : : : Light Reading ***************** End Of Article ****************** Oyguy posted Message 420 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2003 at 20:37:55 Subject: Re: lite reading I can go you one better. I just started working at the city, but I'm still like running a side business on the weekend. This guy looks me up and says that he wants me to do a job for him. I talk to the guy and tell him that I don't think that he needs any work done. He insists that he does. I tell him that he don't, that he's just throwing his money away. For another couple of minutes we go through this silly dance of him trying to convince me that he needs the work done and me telling him that he don't when he finally comes out with it. He wants to hand me money to get an introduction to somebody. I just tell him to hold on to the dough and just go to an open house or something. It's not just good enough to not be dishonest, you really got to be ready to run away from temptation. : I lived in Jersey City all my life, but I just guess that I'm dumb or something. Even after working for the City for a couple of years I was surprised when a supplier told me (with an innocent look on his face, yet) that before he put in a bid, he needed to know how much of a commission he had to figger in for me! : Christie, if your lurking, I gave the guy a lecture that I expected him to make money and I expected the people of Jersey City to get the best deal, but I wasn't taking a dime! : : : : : : Source the Quote : : "Jersey City is a political town and we have certain rules and regulations here, and since your company has never done any business with us before, I want to inform you as to what these rules and regulations are." : : "It's not a bribe, it's a gratuity." : : "I will opt for creative financing every time." : : "We know that Jersey City can be America's most livable city." "You can see the whole world and not leave Jersey City... Together we can make Jersey City a slice of heaven." : : "They called it the Jersey City Renaissance. But [he] knew its Medicis and its Borgias and its Sforzas from the old days. It was a renaissance of condominiums and kickbacks, ready-mixed concrete and plasterboard walls, glass and aluminum and the cheapest wiring money could buy. None of it would last as long as the pier-pilings that had stood in its place." : : "I forgot more than he'll ever know." : : "Jesus was not a wimp. He was a tough guy." : : "We were friends." : : "When you stop sin, Father, I'll stop all the problems of Jersey City." : : "I don't think the people turned their backs on me." : : "The political leader is a fact of life in America. The system can't function without him." : : "Nobody hates Bret Schundler." : : "I regard the fall of the Berlin Wall the and election of Bret Schundler in Jersey City as comparable events." : : "Maybe we can have the facilities to fix somebody's hair up." : : "We can't afford to listen to these cries of humanity." : : "Any publicity is good publicity." : : "To my knowledge, I was born in jersey City, and have lived here all my life." : : "You don't even know who your father is." : : "The problem with Jersey City is the spending of the money." : : "The city has not paid a nickel for the [chromium] fill." : : "Tomorrow, the work starts." : : Louie Brunellesches : : Rudolph Contey : : Thomas Gangemi : : Newt Gingrich : : Robert 'Cash' Janiszewski : : Gerald McCann : : Bernard Murphy : : Liam Neeson : : Joseph Rakowski : : Bret Schundler : : Joseph Soriero : : Thomas Whelan : : Jaime Vazquez : : : : : : Answers : : Jersey City is a political town and we have certain rules and regulations here, and since your company has never done any business with us before, I want to inform you as to what these rules and regulations are. : : Bernard Murphy, a city purchasing agent who was convicted of conspiracy, bribery and extortion in 1971. : : It's not a bribe, it's a gratuity. : : Liam Neeson in Schindler's List, bartering diamonds at Auschwitz. : : I will opt for creative financing every time. : : Robert 'Cash' Janiszewski. Creative financing is certainly called for to pay some of those county salaries, Robert. By the way, how do you find the '94 Grand Marquis? Suits you? Glad we could all help. : : We know that Jersey City can be America's most livable city. : : You can see the whole world and not leave Jersey City... : : Together we can make Jersey City a slice of heaven. : : Bret Schundler. No comment. Apropos Bob's Marquis, we'd like to pass along some info. provided by the mayor's PR dept.: apparently a local auto dealership leases a car to Schundler for $1 a year. See, leasing is better than buying. : : They called it the Jersey City Renaissance. But [he] knew its Medicis and its Borgias and its Sforzas from the old days. It was a renaissance of condominiums and kickbacks, ready-mixed concrete and plasterboard walls, glass and aluminum and the cheapest wiring money could buy. None of it would last as long as the pier-pilings that had stood in its place. : : Louie Brunellesches, a character in Nick Tosches's 1988 novel Cut Numbers. Excerpt reprinted with permission from Harmony Books. : : I forgot more than he'll ever know. : : Gerald McCann, in a prison interview. : : Jesus was not a wimp. He was a tough guy. : : Bret Schundler : : We were friends. : : Rudolph Contey, reminiscing at Allen Manzo's trial for aggravated assault for hitting Contey with a tire iron. Manzo was cleared. : : When you stop sin, Father, I'll stop all the problems of Jersey City. : : Gerald McCann, in a chance street encounter with a priest. : : I don't think the people turned their backs on me. : : Gerald McCann, while residing in Allenwood. : : The political leader is a fact of life in America. The system can't function without him. : : Thomas Whelan, in a Wall Street Journal article circa 1966. : : Nobody hates Bret Schundler. : : Joseph Rakowski, who must have no pride of authorship of his various letters to the editor. : : I regard the fall of the Berlin Wall the and election of Bret Schundler in Jersey City as comparable events. : : Former academic Newt Gingrich, who may have a sense of history, but not of proportion. : : Maybe we can have the facilities to fix somebody's hair up. : : Joseph Rakowski, fleshing out his remarks concerning the possibility that the homeless might benefit from aerobics. We'd guess that he'd just had lunch with Newt Gingrich, but the timing is wrong. : : We can't afford to listen to these cries of humanity. : : Thomas Whelan, whist trimming the city payroll. : : Any publicity is good publicity. : : Another face of Gerald McCann: the ad exec. : : To my knowledge, I was born in jersey City, and have live here all my life. : : Thomas Gangemi. The mayor scheduled a stop to Genoa, Italy in 1963 to accompany a man named Christopher Columbus back to Jersey City to take part in Columbus Day festivities. As a formality, the type of which we all go through, Gangemi was asked to prove his citizenship, couldn't, and naturally had to resign his post. (He was found to be a lawful citizen of Calabria, Italy. He later became a naturalized US citizen.) Kind of a shame, as he was the city's pioneer mayor elected under the Faulkner Act, which changed the form of government from mayor-commissioner to mayor-council. Thus did he become the city's first mayor directly elected by the people and de-elected by INS. : : You don't even know who your father is. : : Gerald McCann. Despite the elegant positioning, we do not know the true context for this remark. We're told he also called people ugly. : : The problem with Jersey City is the spending of the money. : : Gerald McCann : : The city has not paid a nickel for the [chromium] fill. : : Joseph Soriero, onetime city commissioner, referring to chromium landfill, proving again that the best things in life aren't always free. : : Tomorrow, the work starts. : : Jaime Vazquez's slogan while running for council in 1993. He later changed it to 'Mayor Schundler Team' to avoid even the appearance of action verbs. Another candidate for council, Francis O. Thompson, side-stepped the question of grammar altogether by choosing 'Thompson Better Quality.' Win she didn't. : : : : Most quotes courtesy The Jersey Journal and the Jersey City Reporter, : : so we cannot positively vouch for their accuracy. But thanks for the legwork, guys. : : : : : : : : : : Light Reading ***************** End Of Article ****************** Riding the Lightrail posted Message 421 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2003 at 16:01:00 Subject: If I don't stop scratching my head I'll lose the little bit of hair that I've got left. Here's what the county pr office has to say about itself: "All requests for advertising by the Office of the County Executive must approved by the Director." Can anybody figure it out? Is it a bad translation from some foreign language? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens posted Message 422 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2003 at 08:51:00 Subject: Re: If I don't stop scratching my head I'll lose the little bit of hair that I've got left. : Here's what the county pr office has to say about itself: "All requests for advertising by the Office of the County Executive must approved by the Director." : Can anybody figure it out? Is it a bad translation from some foreign language? That would be James Kennelly, director. I would like to request some advertising. May I have some, please? Would you kinkly ask the director to approve my request? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Curious George posted Message 423 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2003 at 11:28:46 Subject: A question for Jay Stevens. Hey look it's Jay Stevens. Jay, you claim that you speak the "truth" so why do you hide behind a fake name? The truth will set you free. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens posted Message 424 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2003 at 14:32:59 Subject: Re: A question for Jay Stevens. : Hey look it's Jay Stevens. : Jay, you claim that you speak the "truth" so why do you hide behind a fake name? The truth will set you free. Jay Stevens is my name. All that I have said is true. If you know one thing that I said that is not true, please tell me what that is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Curious George posted Message 425 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2003 at 15:00:11 Subject: Re: A question for Jay Stevens. Are you the Same Jay Stevens that writes for the UTN? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens posted Message 426 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2003 at 16:54:37 Subject: UNCLE HARVEY CHARGED WITH ASSAULT L. Harvey Smith was named in a JCPD complaint at 2:45pm this afternoon by victim Darrell Laval and witness Al Carr that Smith assaulted Laval at 78 Fremont. The report states that Laval, "manager at the Booker T Housing Complex, was walking through the grounds when he spotted L. Harvey Smith standing outside 78 Fremont which doubles as a residence and a community center. Mr. Laval approached Smith and said Hello at which time Mr. Smith stated, 'I have nothing to f***ing say to you,' and then got close to Laval and pinned him to a wrought iron fence and stated, 'You'll get yours,' The report, JCPD #2003-00013622 says Smith then shoved Mr. Laval. A housing maintenance Supervisor, Al Carr who witnessed the incident intervened, at which time Mr. Laval walked away from Smith to report the incident to us(JCPD). Mr. Laval delcined any medical attention." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens posted Message 427 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2003 at 16:58:12 Subject: Re: A question for Jay Stevens. : Are you the Same Jay Stevens that writes for the UTN? Yes, and you are...? ***************** End Of Article ****************** CG posted Message 428 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2003 at 18:53:23 Subject: Re: A question for Jay Stevens. : :You claim in your posting that the report was made "to us (JCPD)"....There is no Jay stevens in the JCPD..so still you hide behind a false name! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens posted Message 429 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2003 at 01:27:11 Subject: Re: A question for Jay Stevens. : : :You claim in your posting that the report was made "to us (JCPD)"....There is no Jay stevens in the JCPD..so still you hide behind a false name! The post is a verbatim quote from JCPD report of that number(quoted) and "to us" is from the report meaning to JCPD. UTN obtained a copy of the report. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Panza posted Message 430 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2003 at 06:37:36 Subject: Re: UNCLE HARVEY CHARGED WITH ASSAULT : L. Harvey Smith was named in a JCPD complaint at 2:45pm this afternoon by victim Darrell Laval and witness Al Carr that Smith assaulted Laval at 78 Fremont. The report states that Laval, "manager at the Booker T Housing Complex, was walking through the grounds when he spotted L. Harvey Smith standing outside 78 Fremont which doubles as a residence and a community center. Mr. Laval approached Smith and said Hello at which time Mr. Smith stated, 'I have nothing to f***ing say to you,' and then got close to Laval and pinned him to a wrought iron fence and stated, 'You'll get yours,' The report, JCPD #2003-00013622 says Smith then shoved Mr. Laval. A housing maintenance Supervisor, Al Carr who witnessed the incident intervened, at which time Mr. Laval walked away from Smith to report the incident to us(JCPD). Mr. Laval delcined any medical attention." Ooh did Harv push poor Darrell.The beast! Hey Laval you wimp this is Jersey City.Someone pushes you , you push back.Go cry to Mommy you big baby.Harvey should have punched his lights out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TYPICAL UTN PROPAGANDA posted Message 431 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2003 at 09:48:58 Subject: Re: UNCLE HARVEY CHARGED WITH ASSAULT This is typical UTN propaganda and we are not buying it remember it is all about CREDIBILITY! ...............and the UTN gang has none. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens posted Message 432 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2003 at 10:35:23 Subject: JCPD Complaint file # 2003-00013622-4/23/03-14:45 credibility is in the eye of the beholder. People believe what they want to pre-conceive. The report is almost totally verbatim from JCPD, not any other source. If you want to believe that Harvey did not do this, you will believe it because you want to believe it, not because it is not true. If somebody breaks the law, you do not have license to break the law to "get even." Then you are also lawless. That is OK when you are 16 and in the schoolyard. Darrell Laval did the right thing or he would be the same thug Harvey has shown himself to be. That is why we have the rule of law and police to enforce those rules and that law. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Curious George posted Message 433 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2003 at 12:42:03 Subject: Re: JCPD Complaint file # 2003-00013622-4/23/03-14:45 You have to be kidding. Jay Stevens you seem like a intelligent person who is jaded. What is you story….Are they paying you the big bucks, have you a score to settle, what is it? Anyone with a 6th grade education is aware that anyone can file a police report. Filing such report does not give it truth or credibility. A police department must take a complaint if requested. Would you like me site the statures verbatim? “Jay” you will not have to go far to look for lawless behavior…read your own editorials (and I use the term loosely) the lawless actions and schoolyard behavior is in your own. ***************** End Of Article ****************** just passing by posted Message 434 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2003 at 12:55:21 Subject: Re: JCPD Complaint file # 2003-00013622-4/23/03-14:45 You have to be kidding. Jay Stevens you seem like an intelligent person who is jaded. What is you story….Are they paying you the big bucks, have you a score to settle, what is it? Anyone with a 6th grade education is aware that anyone can file a police report. Filing such report does not give it truth or credibility. A police department must take a complaint if requested. Would you like me site the statures verbatim? “Jay” you will not have to go far to look for lawless behavior…read your own editorials (and I use the term loosely) the lawless actions and schoolyard behavior is in your own. WELL SAID GEORGE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** cg posted Message 435 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2003 at 12:57:53 Subject: Re: A question for Jay Stevens. Jay I will be more happy to debate you on most of your issues. You know very well who I am. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 436 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2003 at 13:30:44 Subject: Jersey Journal: City Council prez accused of assault City Council prez accused of assault Smith calls complaint "politically motivated" Jersey Journal Thursday, April 24, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer The manager of the Booker T. Washington Public Housing complex in Jersey City is accusing City Council President L. Harvey Smith of shoving him and cursing at him during a brief confrontation at the complex yesterday, where Smith was campaigning for the upcoming state Senate primary. Smith, who is running against Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham for the Democratic nomination to the Senate seat in the 31st District, denied shoving the man, Darrell Laval, and called the complaint politically motivated. "I put my hands on no one," Smith, who was not arrested, said yesterday ... The rest of the Jersey Journal article is available from the Link. : L. Harvey Smith was named in a JCPD complaint at 2:45pm this afternoon by victim Darrell Laval and witness Al Carr that Smith assaulted Laval at 78 Fremont. The report states that Laval, "manager at the Booker T Housing Complex, was walking through the grounds when he spotted L. Harvey Smith standing outside 78 Fremont which doubles as a residence and a community center. Mr. Laval approached Smith and said Hello at which time Mr. Smith stated, 'I have nothing to f***ing say to you,' and then got close to Laval and pinned him to a wrought iron fence and stated, 'You'll get yours,' The report, JCPD #2003-00013622 says Smith then shoved Mr. Laval. A housing maintenance Supervisor, Al Carr who witnessed the incident intervened, at which time Mr. Laval walked away from Smith to report the incident to us(JCPD). Mr. Laval delcined any medical attention." ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN LOST ANOTHER $$$$$$$$$$$ TODAY 5-0 posted Message 437 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2003 at 16:31:52 Subject: Re: UNCLE HARVEY CHARGED WITH ASSAULT : : This is typical UTN propaganda and we are not buying it remember it is all about CREDIBILITY! ...............and the UTN gang has none. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan H. Eason posted Message 438 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 25, 2003 at 05:55:48 Subject: Walsh Punch Knocks Out Challengers Walsh Punch Knocks Out Challengers Bayonne Battler Ready To Take on Good Old Boys April 24, 2003 Contact: Stan H. Eason For Immediate Release JERSEY CITY- County Executive Candidate Melba Walsh proved triumphant yesterday when a Hudson County Superior Court Judge reinstated her name on the official ballot for the June primary race for Hudson County Executive. Walsh, of Bayonne and a member of the Glenn D. Cunningham ticket for Senate in the 31st District, came off the ropes to defeat an apparently desperate challenge of her petitions to run for office. On April 18, Walsh and independent candidate Jamie Vazquez found their petitions challenged by the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Following three days of hearings, Walsh and Vazquez found their petitions rejected by Deputy County Clerk Joan Arango because of "continuous and potentially fraudulent acts" in gathering signatures. Reviewing the challenges, apparently Judge Arthur D’Italia did not agree with the dubious findings of the county clerk’s office. Now, incumbent Tom DeGise will have an opponent for the June 3rd primary. “We appreciate D’Italia’s decision because it gives the people of Hudson County a choice,” Walsh said. “Why are they (DeGise) seeking to run unopposed? We disagreed with Arango’s decision. We feel the decision was prejudiced. The HCDO made the decision as well as the complaint against our petitions," Walsh said. Walsh, Cunningham and assembly hopefuls Lou Manzo of Jersey City and Tony Chiappone of Bayonne, and Willie Flood county clerk) make up the Democrats for Hudson County slate. “This only strengthens my resolve to take on and challenge the good old boys who for far too long have been picking cards from the bottom of the deck. Hudson County residents need a new deal,” said Walsh, hoping to become the county’s first woman county executive. Mayor Cunningham, who was reached at the National Conference of Mayors in Houston, Texas following the court decision, was pleased to see that justice prevailed. “America is a democracy where each vote counts. The HCDO only wanted a one-sided race so that thousands of people’s voices would not be heard. Melba is the best choice for county executive because she will be a refreshing change from the way county government has been sorrowfully run in the past,” Cunningham said.//// ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 439 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 25, 2003 at 07:52:07 Subject: Jersey Journal: Judge orders Walsh put back on ballot Judge orders Walsh put back on ballot Won't appeal judge's order, says HCDO chief Jersey Journal Friday, April 25, 2003 By Ronald Leir Journal staff writer Two renegade candidates for Hudson County executive have been ordered back on the ballot, giving voters a choice from among three candidates in the June 3 Democratic primary election. Melba Walsh, running on a slate headed by Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, a candidate for state Senate, was ordered reinstated yesterday by state Superior Court Judge Arthur D'Italia. Jaime Vazquez, who isn't running on a slate, was restored on Wednesday after remedying a technical defect on his nominating petitions. Tom DeGise, the incumbent, is the Hudson County Democratic Organization's nominee. Charles Catrillo is the lone Republican running for county executive. Javier Inclan, executive director of the HCDO, which had challenged the candidates, said the HCDO wouldn't appeal D'Italia's decisions and that should clear the way for final candidate certifications and mailing of sample ballots by early next week. ... For the rest of the article, see the Link. : Walsh Punch Knocks Out Challengers : Bayonne Battler Ready To Take on Good Old Boys : April 24, 2003 : Contact: Stan H. Eason : For Immediate Release : JERSEY CITY- County Executive Candidate Melba Walsh proved triumphant yesterday when a Hudson County Superior Court Judge reinstated her name on the official ballot for the June primary race for Hudson County Executive. : Walsh, of Bayonne and a member of the Glenn D. Cunningham ticket for Senate in the 31st District, came off the ropes to defeat an apparently desperate challenge of her petitions to run for office. : On April 18, Walsh and independent candidate Jamie Vazquez found their petitions challenged by the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Following three days of hearings, Walsh and Vazquez found their petitions rejected by Deputy County Clerk Joan Arango because of "continuous and potentially fraudulent acts" in gathering signatures. : Reviewing the challenges, apparently Judge Arthur D’Italia did not agree with the dubious findings of the county clerk’s office. Now, incumbent Tom DeGise will have an opponent for the June 3rd primary. : “We appreciate D’Italia’s decision because it gives the people of Hudson County a choice,” Walsh said. “Why are they (DeGise) seeking to run unopposed? We disagreed with Arango’s decision. We feel the decision was prejudiced. The HCDO made the decision as well as the complaint against our petitions," Walsh said. : Walsh, Cunningham and assembly hopefuls Lou Manzo of Jersey City and Tony Chiappone of Bayonne, and Willie Flood county clerk) make up the Democrats for Hudson County slate. : “This only strengthens my resolve to take on and challenge the good old boys who for far too long have been picking cards from the bottom of the deck. Hudson County residents need a new deal,” said Walsh, hoping to become the county’s first woman county executive. : Mayor Cunningham, who was reached at the National Conference of Mayors in Houston, Texas following the court decision, was pleased to see that justice prevailed. “America is a democracy where each vote counts. The HCDO only wanted a one-sided race so that thousands of people’s voices would not be heard. Melba is the best choice for county executive because she will be a refreshing change from the way county government has been sorrowfully run in the past,” Cunningham said.//// ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inplainview posted Message 440 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 25, 2003 at 12:35:01 Subject: BOBBY JACKSON Somebody from old 280 was chewing my ear off the other day about what a louse Bobby Jackson is. All of a sudden, like she was standing right before me, I could hear my sainted Irish grandmother saying from at least 40 years ago, "When ever you hear somebody saying something bad about another nationality, don't you ever forget that you can always EASILY find many times worse amongst the Irish." I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out who immediately came to mind. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 441 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 25, 2003 at 12:40:35 Subject: Democrats fight a wartime primary in Hudson County Democrats fight a wartime primary in Hudson County By STEVE KORNACKI PoliticsNJ.com JERSEY CITY, April 23 - Two years ago, Glenn D. Cunningham captured the top job in the state's second largest city with the help of the powerful Hudson County Democratic Organization. But now, the two sides are at war, with a state Senate seat -- and a potential reordering of the Hudson County political power structure -- on the line. Cunningham announced in March that he would seek to replace 31st district State Sen. Joseph Charles (D-Jersey City), who is not running for re-election and is expected to take a Superior Court judgeship. He is running against Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith -- who has the backing of the Hudson County Democratic Organization -- but in many ways the race is an extension of the battle between Cunningham and Rep. Robert Menendez (D-Hoboken), the county's most powerful Democrat. "It's the people of Jersey City and Glenn Cunningham versus people outside of Jersey City looking to control Jersey City in any way they can," Cunningham said today. Once a Menendez ally, Cunningham and Menendez had a falling out last year over whether interim County Executive Bernard F. Hartnett should be the party's candidate for executive. Hartnett had been appointed to the post after Robert Janizewski's late 2001 resignation. ... For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** cg posted Message 442 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 25, 2003 at 13:24:29 Subject: Re: BOBBY JACKSON You post would be wonderful if it did not contain one major flaw ….Bobby Jackson! People do not dislike Mr. Jackson for his ethnic background; we dislike him because he is dishonest. If Mr. Jackson were a big yellow bird from a street named Sesame, we would still feel the same way. • He is dishonest. • He was found guilty of civil rights violations against fellow African-Americans • He extorts from the waterfront corporations with his many “Lobbyist firms” • However, most importantly he does nothing to better his own community • What kind of role model is he to the children of Jersey City, can you imagine what the future holds if they all followed his example. Scary huh? I would love to know the wonderful things he has done for his community. Tell me and maybe just maybe you can change my views until then my opinion stays as is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bucky posted Message 443 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2003 at 08:11:30 Subject: Merry Gerry Can somebody enlighten me here? I remembers way back when McCann and Glenn yelling at each other and Glenn telling him that he was goiing to get a ham sandwich in the lockup. Before that even Gerry got snagged for cutting the cables to the elevators in the projects to try to slow down the currywoods vote for Cucci. McCann was supposed to be working for Degise getting electedto mayor in the last go round. Now here is Gerry lips firmly planted on the bountiful bosom of city employment being blessed by Mayor Glenn Cunningham. How does soemthing like this playout? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hmmmm! posted Message 444 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2003 at 09:48:53 Subject: Re: BOBBY JACKSON Hmmmmm, very interesting should I repeat the things you said during our conversation "m", or should I just chalk it up as another cronie trying to kiss up to make the big bucks. And btw I am not a 280! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bunky posted Message 445 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2003 at 10:03:13 Subject: Re: Merry Gerry Wasn't there a bunch that used to run around committing hate crimes around 1975? The BONES I think they was called, they tried to make everybody think that they were protecting the people around Westside. The saddest thing I can remember about them was that they were getting too old to be juvenile delinquents so they wanted to graduate into a motorcycle gang, but as they couldn't get the money together to buy bikes they had to give up the dream : Can somebody enlighten me here? I remembers way back when McCann and Glenn yelling at each other and Glenn telling him that he was goiing to get a ham sandwich in the lockup. Before that even Gerry got snagged for cutting the cables to the elevators in the projects to try to slow down the currywoods vote for Cucci. McCann was supposed to be working for Degise getting electedto mayor in the last go round. Now here is Gerry lips firmly planted on the bountiful bosom of city employment being blessed by Mayor Glenn Cunningham. How does soemthing like this playout? ***************** End Of Article ****************** p.s. posted Message 446 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2003 at 11:57:05 Subject: Re: BOBBY JACKSON : Hmmmmm, very interesting should I repeat the things you said during our conversation "m", or should I just chalk it up as another cronie trying to kiss up to make the big bucks. And btw I am not a 280! You are the one who started the conversation about the bad blood in our city...our conversation was not about black or white. At no time did we speak or mention race. You see M your narrow minded thinking is part of the problem, this is not about skin color it is about bad people in power or at least trying to have it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mikey posted Message 447 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2003 at 14:19:41 Subject: Re: Merry Gerry There was somebody else in on the voter rights case with McCann that Cunningham put in. I can't make heads or tails out of it either. With the Merry one Glenn said to the paper it that everybody deserves a second chance. I'd like to see the Vietnam vets give Hanoi Jane a second chance! : Can somebody enlighten me here? I remembers way back when McCann and Glenn yelling at each other and Glenn telling him that he was goiing to get a ham sandwich in the lockup. Before that even Gerry got snagged for cutting the cables to the elevators in the projects to try to slow down the currywoods vote for Cucci. McCann was supposed to be working for Degise getting electedto mayor in the last go round. Now here is Gerry lips firmly planted on the bountiful bosom of city employment being blessed by Mayor Glenn Cunningham. How does soemthing like this playout? ***************** End Of Article ****************** I am curious yellow posted Message 448 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2003 at 16:43:26 Subject: Re: BOBBY JACKSON I don't know if your Jersey City's version of Mother Teresa, but since I moved here every mayor has had his pet weasel. The exception that proved the rule was Cucci, HE WAS HIS OWN WEASEL! I didn't see his first ride on the merry-go-round, but on the second (if not better) time around McCann had that character on the city payroll getting paid big bucks for pr work while police were getting laid off. When the general public was ready to storm the walls over this, the guy had to take a walk but started up a magazine that nobody read but still managed to get plenty of ads. : You post would be wonderful if it did not contain one major flaw ….Bobby Jackson! : People do not dislike Mr. Jackson for his ethnic background; we dislike him because he is dishonest. : If Mr. Jackson were a big yellow bird from a street named Sesame, we would still feel the same way. : • He is dishonest. : • He was found guilty of civil rights violations against fellow African-Americans : • He extorts from the waterfront corporations with his many “Lobbyist firms” : • However, most importantly he does nothing to better his own community : • What kind of role model is he to the children of Jersey City, can you imagine what the future holds if they all followed his example. Scary huh? : : I would love to know the wonderful things he has done for his community. : Tell me and maybe just maybe you can change my views until then my opinion stays as is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** reprint posted Message 449 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2003 at 21:15:32 Subject: Re: Merry Gerry 1532.5. It Gets Worse by Ukie4, 4/26/03 19:44 ET Re: Loew's Theater by kingleer, 4/26/03 Mayor Cunningham wrote a letter to the Friends of the Loew's stating that the concert had his full endorsement and told them to waive their rental fee. He also insisted his wife be placed on the board of the FOL despite the fact she had never shown any interest at all in their activities. A near riot occurred at the LaBelle concert. the FOL fears a rap concert will impossible for them to control. You can call this racist but violence follows these shows around. An acid rock show would be almost as inappropriate. Rev.(sic)Allen is a principal in the management group producing the event. Federal monies from the Office of Employment and Training (Ed Santiago) and Fifteen Together (Arthur Williams) will fund the show by buying hundreds of tickets for high school dropouts. These are facts not rumors check them out and someone stop this before years of hard work by the FOL go down the drain. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Peg Leg Pete posted Message 450 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 08:18:57 Subject: FOL LOFL? I read the whining post about a rap concert at the Loew's and I wanted to start a new post. I didn't vote for Cunningham in 2001 and I don't listen to rap music. Me listening to rap music would be like right out of that Steve Martin movie. Having said that, I think that it is great that the Loew's is finally, after who know how may tax payer dollars been poured into it, being used for some purpose for people of Jersey City. That it's something that I'm not really interested in seeing, I'm not going to complain, obviously a lot of people like rap music even if I'm not one of them. Maybe this will like break the ice and something will be going on there besides once in a blue moon 3rd rate movies out of the bargain basket at Blockbusters. The FOL (FONIES OF THE LOEWS) have been fighting tooth and nail to keep that place closed as their private clubhouse, with the rest of us being left to pick up the tab. With their scheming and yelping (and an inside track to Congressman Guarini?) they managed to browbeat 3 different mayors. After 15 years of COMING SOON signs, I'm glad that Glenn Cunningham is making the FOL bunch do something for somebody besides their little in crowd click. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Baby Cobra posted Message 451 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 09:20:25 Subject: Inappropriate, your derryair. Inappropriate, your derryair. Since you don't mind trying a scare job of conjuring up the sight of race riots, why don't you tell the truth about what's got you so bent out of shape. It's not that public money is being spent (who knows how much went down the rat hole of the Loews already), it's not that Rev. Allen isn't a Catholic Priest (thank god for that), it's not that the audience might not have gotten PHDs, or that the musicians never played Carnegie Hall, the truth is that you don't like the idea of your little playground getting opened up for anybody else to get the use out of it. If the tickets was being handed out over in Grennwich Village or Fire Island, I bet you'd be twirlingaround tippytoe like a ballerina. : 1532.5. It Gets Worse : by Ukie4, 4/26/03 19:44 ET : Re: Loew's Theater by kingleer, 4/26/03 : Mayor Cunningham wrote a letter to the Friends of the Loew's stating that the concert had his full endorsement and told them to waive their rental fee. He also insisted his wife be placed on the board of the FOL despite the fact she had never shown any interest at all in their activities. A near riot occurred at the LaBelle concert. the FOL fears a rap concert will impossible for them to control. You can call this racist but violence follows these shows around. An acid rock show would be almost as inappropriate. Rev.(sic)Allen is a principal in the management group producing the event. Federal monies from the Office of Employment and Training (Ed Santiago) and Fifteen Together (Arthur Williams) will fund the show by buying hundreds of tickets for high school dropouts. These are facts not rumors check them out and someone stop this before years of hard work by the FOL go down the drain. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Still crazy posted Message 452 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 10:17:57 Subject: Re: FOL LOFL? 25 years ago (WOW that really is a quarter of a century, isn't it!) me and my friends used to go to rock shows out of town. If I remember right, the Capitol at Passaic was the big one. We had a good time and caused no trouble. The theater always had police and security guards all over the place. We always wondered why nothing like that ever happened in Jersey City and guessed that the Loew's would be a great place. I hope that Jersey City kids will now have a place to enjoy themselves. Frank Sinatra went to see Bing Crosby at the Loews's when Bing Crosby was the popular thing. I just can't think of Frank Sinatra taking a date to see a silent movie, and we're talking 70 or so years ago even then. : I read the whining post about a rap concert at the Loew's and I wanted to start a new post. : I didn't vote for Cunningham in 2001 and I don't listen to rap music. Me listening to rap music would be like right out of that Steve Martin movie. : Having said that, I think that it is great that the Loew's is finally, after who know how may tax payer dollars been poured into it, being used for some purpose for people of Jersey City. That it's something that I'm not really interested in seeing, I'm not going to complain, obviously a lot of people like rap music even if I'm not one of them. Maybe this will like break the ice and something will be going on there besides once in a blue moon 3rd rate movies out of the bargain basket at Blockbusters. : The FOL (FONIES OF THE LOEWS) have been fighting tooth and nail to keep that place closed as their private clubhouse, with the rest of us being left to pick up the tab. With their scheming and yelping (and an inside track to Congressman Guarini?) they managed to browbeat 3 different mayors. After 15 years of COMING SOON signs, I'm glad that Glenn Cunningham is making the FOL bunch do something for somebody besides their little in crowd click. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Old but not cranky posted Message 453 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 10:49:30 Subject: Give it a chance Giuliani showed with New Year's Eve and St Patrick's Day Parade that events that everybody thought to just have to be nuisances could be polished up and done right for all to enjoy or at least not be pestered by. Even in Little Italy, Giuliani worked with them to get the Festival going on the right foot after all these many years. With this music at the Loews the Jersey City mayor is going to have to make sure that order is maintained and the Port Authority is going to have to go hand and hand with this. Cunningham is trying something new and I'm not going to put him down for that but thought and planning will have to be put in. : I read the whining post about a rap concert at the Loew's and I wanted to start a new post. : I didn't vote for Cunningham in 2001 and I don't listen to rap music. Me listening to rap music would be like right out of that Steve Martin movie. : Having said that, I think that it is great that the Loew's is finally, after who know how may tax payer dollars been poured into it, being used for some purpose for people of Jersey City. That it's something that I'm not really interested in seeing, I'm not going to complain, obviously a lot of people like rap music even if I'm not one of them. Maybe this will like break the ice and something will be going on there besides once in a blue moon 3rd rate movies out of the bargain basket at Blockbusters. : The FOL (FONIES OF THE LOEWS) have been fighting tooth and nail to keep that place closed as their private clubhouse, with the rest of us being left to pick up the tab. With their scheming and yelping (and an inside track to Congressman Guarini?) they managed to browbeat 3 different mayors. After 15 years of COMING SOON signs, I'm glad that Glenn Cunningham is making the FOL bunch do something for somebody besides their little in crowd click. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Instant Karma posted Message 454 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 12:45:56 Subject: Justice deferred is a blast There are some short memories at work here. Remember when running for governor Schundler brought a bunch of reporters to the square to show off the good works? Remember how the HCDO paid a bunch of good for nothings to run around with signs and yell? Congressman Bob is going to have 10X worse ready for Glenn. Glenn can't win. If the police hold back then everbody will be up in arms about the mess and property damage. If the police stop the ruffians, then it will be police brutality. You can be sure that Menendez's people are writing up a half a dozen different speaches right now. Basically, no matter what happens, Congrssman Bob will be shocked and indignant reading his speach the next day up the block at Bergen Avenue. : I read the whining post about a rap concert at the Loew's and I wanted to start a new post. : I didn't vote for Cunningham in 2001 and I don't listen to rap music. Me listening to rap music would be like right out of that Steve Martin movie. : Having said that, I think that it is great that the Loew's is finally, after who know how may tax payer dollars been poured into it, being used for some purpose for people of Jersey City. That it's something that I'm not really interested in seeing, I'm not going to complain, obviously a lot of people like rap music even if I'm not one of them. Maybe this will like break the ice and something will be going on there besides once in a blue moon 3rd rate movies out of the bargain basket at Blockbusters. : The FOL (FONIES OF THE LOEWS) have been fighting tooth and nail to keep that place closed as their private clubhouse, with the rest of us being left to pick up the tab. With their scheming and yelping (and an inside track to Congressman Guarini?) they managed to browbeat 3 different mayors. After 15 years of COMING SOON signs, I'm glad that Glenn Cunningham is making the FOL bunch do something for somebody besides their little in crowd click. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazers friend posted Message 455 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 14:36:29 Subject: Life as a UTN staff member...................... Every Wednesday night Pam Gallagher, the popular bar maid at the Lisbon, does a comedy gig in NYC, so the Lisbon is experimenting with a robotic bar tender as a novelty on that night of the week. Steve Glazer heard about it and went over to observe and see if there might be a human interest story in it. Steve went into Lisbon and stood in the background and watched as a distinguished looking gentleman came in for a drink and the robot asked him, "What's your IQ?" The man replied, "130." So the robot proceeded to serve him and makeconversation about physics, astronomy, and so on. Steve listenedintently and thought, "This is really cool." Another guy came in for a drink and the robot asked him,"What's your IQ?" The man responded, "105." So the robot started talking aboutthe Final Four, dirt bikes, and so on, and Steve again thought to himself, "Wow, this is really cool." Finally Steve thought to himself that this would be fun to try. As with the others, the robotasked him, "What's your IQ?" Steve replied, "80." "The robot immediately responded, "Hi Steve, how are things going at the UTN these days?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** FuzzyWuzzy posted Message 456 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 15:25:32 Subject: Re: Merry Gerry And there's the unsinkable M. Doyle right near the top of the indian pole to0. Between her and McCann I don't think the two together control two votes even. : Can somebody enlighten me here? I remembers way back when McCann and Glenn yelling at each other and Glenn telling him that he was goiing to get a ham sandwich in the lockup. Before that even Gerry got snagged for cutting the cables to the elevators in the projects to try to slow down the currywoods vote for Cucci. McCann was supposed to be working for Degise getting electedto mayor in the last go round. Now here is Gerry lips firmly planted on the bountiful bosom of city employment being blessed by Mayor Glenn Cunningham. How does soemthing like this playout? ***************** End Of Article ****************** RipVanReipen posted Message 457 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 15:42:45 Subject: Re: FOL LOFL? How long has the Loews been undergoing rehab now? The last legitimate movie that I can remember seeing there was ROCKY IV? There was still a Soviet Union way back then! : I read the whining post about a rap concert at the Loew's and I wanted to start a new post. : I didn't vote for Cunningham in 2001 and I don't listen to rap music. Me listening to rap music would be like right out of that Steve Martin movie. : Having said that, I think that it is great that the Loew's is finally, after who know how may tax payer dollars been poured into it, being used for some purpose for people of Jersey City. That it's something that I'm not really interested in seeing, I'm not going to complain, obviously a lot of people like rap music even if I'm not one of them. Maybe this will like break the ice and something will be going on there besides once in a blue moon 3rd rate movies out of the bargain basket at Blockbusters. : The FOL (FONIES OF THE LOEWS) have been fighting tooth and nail to keep that place closed as their private clubhouse, with the rest of us being left to pick up the tab. With their scheming and yelping (and an inside track to Congressman Guarini?) they managed to browbeat 3 different mayors. After 15 years of COMING SOON signs, I'm glad that Glenn Cunningham is making the FOL bunch do something for somebody besides their little in crowd click. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Magilla posted Message 458 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 16:14:04 Subject: Re: FOL LOFL? FONIES OF THE LOEWS is one way to put it. I get the biggest laugh every time I see the VOLUNTEER hocuspocus. At least one of the FOL has been shaking the city palm tree for coconuts for years now. : I read the whining post about a rap concert at the Loew's and I wanted to start a new post. : I didn't vote for Cunningham in 2001 and I don't listen to rap music. Me listening to rap music would be like right out of that Steve Martin movie. : Having said that, I think that it is great that the Loew's is finally, after who know how may tax payer dollars been poured into it, being used for some purpose for people of Jersey City. That it's something that I'm not really interested in seeing, I'm not going to complain, obviously a lot of people like rap music even if I'm not one of them. Maybe this will like break the ice and something will be going on there besides once in a blue moon 3rd rate movies out of the bargain basket at Blockbusters. : The FOL (FONIES OF THE LOEWS) have been fighting tooth and nail to keep that place closed as their private clubhouse, with the rest of us being left to pick up the tab. With their scheming and yelping (and an inside track to Congressman Guarini?) they managed to browbeat 3 different mayors. After 15 years of COMING SOON signs, I'm glad that Glenn Cunningham is making the FOL bunch do something for somebody besides their little in crowd click. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just say no! posted Message 459 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 16:15:46 Subject: Re: BOBBY JACKSON To refer to the Urban Times News as a “newspaper” is an oxymoron.What the Urban Times News is a rag promoting Bobby Jackson’s agenda. There is very little truth and no credibility to the UTN. A community leader at a JC Council meeting asked a reporter who wanted to interview her who he works for. The reporter Steven Glazer answered, “I work for Bobby Jackson and the Urban Times News”. She asked him what does he do for BJ and the UTN and he answered “I do what ever he wants me to do ...I was hired to promote his agenda.” Give glazer a drink and he will sing like a bird. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Henson posted Message 460 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 16:23:34 Subject: Re: Merry Gerry Perhaps they borrowed (or inherited or something) Paul Byrne's scrapbook. : And there's the unsinkable M. Doyle right near the top of the indian pole to0. Between her and McCann I don't think the two together control two votes even. : : Can somebody enlighten me here? I remembers way back when McCann and Glenn yelling at each other and Glenn telling him that he was goiing to get a ham sandwich in the lockup. Before that even Gerry got snagged for cutting the cables to the elevators in the projects to try to slow down the currywoods vote for Cucci. McCann was supposed to be working for Degise getting electedto mayor in the last go round. Now here is Gerry lips firmly planted on the bountiful bosom of city employment being blessed by Mayor Glenn Cunningham. How does soemthing like this playout? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Magillia we dont get it????????????????????/ posted Message 461 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 16:32:45 Subject: Re: FOL LOFL? Huh? ***************** End Of Article ****************** A story for Jay(steve)Stevens(Glazer) posted Message 462 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 16:35:25 Subject: Re: A question for Jay Stevens. 1440.9 Inovation at Lisbon downtown by JoeRepka, 4/13/03 Every Wednesday night Pam Gallagher, the popular bar maid at the Lisbon, does a comedy gig in NYC, so the Lisbon is experimenting with a robotic bar tender as a novelty on that night of the week. Steve Glazer heard about it and went over to observe and see if there might be a human interest story in it. Steve went into Lisbon and stood in the background and watched as a distinguished looking gentleman came in for a drink and the robot asked him, "What's your IQ?" The man replied, "130." So the robot proceeded to serve him and makeconversation about physics, astronomy, and so on. Steve listenedintently and thought, "This is really cool." Another guy came in for a drink and the robot asked him,"What's your IQ?" The man responded, "105." So the robot started talking aboutthe Final Four, dirt bikes, and so on, and Steve again thought to himself, "Wow, this is really cool." Finally Steve thought to himself that this would be fun to try. As with the others, the robotasked him, "What's your IQ?" Steve replied, "80." "The robot immediately responded, "Hi Steve, how are things going at the UTN these days?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL posted Message 463 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 16:36:45 Subject: Re: mANOLO AND STEVE GLAZER GET NEW YORK TIMES JOBS 1440.9 Inovation at Lisbon downtown by JoeRepka, 4/13/03 Every Wednesday night Pam Gallagher, the popular bar maid at the Lisbon, does a comedy gig in NYC, so the Lisbon is experimenting with a robotic bar tender as a novelty on that night of the week. Steve Glazer heard about it and went over to observe and see if there might be a human interest story in it. Steve went into Lisbon and stood in the background and watched as a distinguished looking gentleman came in for a drink and the robot asked him, "What's your IQ?" The man replied, "130." So the robot proceeded to serve him and makeconversation about physics, astronomy, and so on. Steve listenedintently and thought, "This is really cool." Another guy came in for a drink and the robot asked him,"What's your IQ?" The man responded, "105." So the robot started talking aboutthe Final Four, dirt bikes, and so on, and Steve again thought to himself, "Wow, this is really cool." Finally Steve thought to himself that this would be fun to try. As with the others, the robotasked him, "What's your IQ?" Steve replied, "80." "The robot immediately responded, "Hi Steve, how are things going at the UTN these days?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bert Ernie posted Message 464 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 17:35:39 Subject: For Jay(steve) Stevens 1440.9 Inovation at Lisbon downtown by JoeRepka, 4/13/03 Every Wednesday night Pam Gallagher, the popular bar maid at the Lisbon, does a comedy gig in NYC, so the Lisbon is experimenting with a electronic bar maid as a novelty on that night of the week. Steve Glazer heard about it and went over to observe and see if there might be a human interest story in it. Steve went into Lisbon and stood in the background and watched electronis bar maid asked him, "What's your I.Q.?" The man replied, "130." So the robot proceeded to serve him and makeconversation about physics, astronomy, and so on. Steve listenedintently and thought, "This is really cool." Another guy came in for a drink and the electronic bar maid asked him,"What's your I.Q.?" The man responded, "105." So the robot started talking about the Final Four, dirt bikes, and so on, and Steve again thought to himself, "Wow, this is really cool." Finally Steve thought to himself that this would be fun to try. As with the others, the electronic bar maid asked him, "What's your I.Q.?" Steve replied, "80." "The robot immediately responded, "Hi Steve, how are things going at the UTN these days?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** To :GET NJ posted Message 465 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 18:37:41 Subject: Please explain.... "Vigorous disagreement and debate is expected, but curses and insults are not allowed! All off topic and libelous posts will be erased! No ads are permitted in this Board!" Then please tell us why do you allow the gang at the UTN to re-print their smut. Most of it defies your above words what gives? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 466 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 19:06:49 Subject: Re: Please explain.... Because it's copied from the printed version:The material appears originally in hard copy.The printed version contains the name and address of the publisher.Each article contains a reporter's byline.Posted material is attributed to both the publication and the writer. If and when anything shows up at this Message Board from the Urban Times News, I check it against the printed paper. If it's copied verbatim, I let it stand. If anybody else wants to post harsh statements, they can do so, but NOT ANONYMOUSLY. You must first identify yourself. Then you must send me a signed, printed copy of your statement. You must identify yourself in the post. I'll check your post to make sure that it is identical to the document with the signature. (If the article appears previously with the author's name in an identifiable publication, I won't require a signature.) In short, I'll use the same rules for anybody else that I use for the Urban Times News. Visitors are welcome to post differing points of view, as many do. I won't allow Curses, threats, puerile jokes, racial epithets, and insults that would not be tolerated on the walls of a public restroom. : "Vigorous disagreement and debate is expected, but curses and insults are not allowed! All off topic and libelous posts will be erased! No ads are permitted in this Board!" : Then please tell us why do you allow the gang at the UTN to re-print their smut. : Most of it defies your above words what gives? ***************** End Of Article ****************** pe posted Message 467 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 19:55:26 Subject: Re: Please explain.... Please correct me if I am wrong …You have in your possession a signed document from each of the author, if it did not appear in a newspaper. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 468 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 20:34:14 Subject: Re: Please explain.... If you don't like something, say that you don't like it. If you think that something is wrong, say that you think that it is wrong. If you can prove something wrong, produce the proof. If you want to say that somebody has done something wrong, then you must identify yourself and first make the statement on paper. I'm a humble keyboard jockey. Over the last few weeks, I've gotten very tired of the wide range of arguments on how, why, and where the first amendment does not apply -- particularly, "I been trying to talk to you in a nice way..." : : Please correct me if I am wrong …You have in your possession a signed document from each of the author, if it did not appear in a newspaper. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pe posted Message 469 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 20:47:48 Subject: Thank You. No message : If you don't like something, say that you don't like it. : If you think that something is wrong, say that you think that it is wrong. : If you can prove something wrong, produce the proof. : If you want to say that somebody has done something wrong, then you must identify yourself and first make the statement on paper. : I'm a humble keyboard jockey. Over the last few weeks, I've gotten very tired of the wide range of arguments on how, why, and where the first amendment does not apply -- particularly, "I been trying to talk to you in a nice way..." : : : : Please correct me if I am wrong …You have in your possession a signed document from each of the author, if it did not appear in a newspaper. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TOM posted Message 470 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2003 at 21:41:44 Subject: Re: Thank You. No message :I JUST READ YOUR POSTING WHY WOULD ANYONE GIVE YOU A HARD TIME ABOUT THE 1ST AMMED. HOW DOES THAT APPLY TO A WEB CHAT ROOM? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan H. Eason posted Message 471 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 28, 2003 at 16:41:35 Subject: "Flood The Polls" Push Reaches 900 Democrats for Hudson County Contact: Stan H. Eason April 28, 2003 For Immediate Release ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 472 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 08:53:15 Subject: Justices appear split in remap case Justices appear split in remap case Tuesday, April 29, 2003 By HERB JACKSON Bergen Record TRENTON BUREAU The state Supreme Court appeared divided Monday as it considered a lawsuit brought by Republicans trying to throw out the map that defines legislative district boundaries. How the court rules could change what towns are in what districts in this November's elections, when all 120 legislative seats are on the ballot. But several justices indicated they were leaning toward sending the whole case back to trial court so more facts could be developed, and no time frame was set for a ruling. The June 3 primary is being held using the disputed map, which was developed in 2001 after a non-partisan tie-breaker, Princeton University Professor Larry Bartels, sided with Democrats against Republicans on a special bipartisan commission. The new map helped Democrats that year win control of the Assembly and a 20-20 split in the Senate after a decade of solid Republican control of both houses. Republicans lost two federal court challenges to the map in 2001, but they hit pay dirt in state appeals court in January when a three-judge panel ordered the map redrawn. The panel ruled that since Newark and Jersey City were spread among three districts each rather than two each, the map violated a clause in the constitution that limits division of municipalities. The Supreme Court put the appeals court ruling on hold, however, while it considered the case. For the rest of the article, see the link: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 473 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 16:56:18 Subject: Walsh Mugged Again, Vazques Pushed Off Ballot, By HCDO Walsh Mugged Again, Vazques Pushed Off Ballot, By HCDO Urban Times News, April 25 - May 1, 2003 By UTN NEWS Jersey City-The Hudson County Clerk disqualified the nominating petitions of two challengers for the office of County Executive after three days of hearings. Deputy County Clerk Joan Arango rejected the petitions of Melba Walsh, of Bayonne, running on the Democrats For Hudson County State of Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham, because of "potential" fraud in gathering signatures. The petitions of independent Democrat Jaime Vazquez, of Jersey City, were also disallowed on a tech- nicality, but Vazquez was given time to cor- rect those faults. Walsh and her attorney, Joseph Terula, said the decision will be appealed in court. Walsh said she is confi- dent the courts will restore her to the ballot Apparently, the outcome of the proceedings were sufficiently important for the HCDO that Representative Robert Menendez D-13 made a brief in person appearance at the hearing offices during the proceedings. The office of County Clerk itself is one of the offices up for grabs in the coming primary that will also pit challenger Willie Flood, running with Walsh on the Democrats for Hudson County, against incumbent Janet Haynes of the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Flood's petition was not challenged. Walsh and Vazquez both are vying for the office of County Executive running against incum- bent Tom DeGise, who is running on the HCDO ticket. DeGise will be unopposed if Vazquez and Walsh are unable to overcome disqualification. The Hudson County Democratic Organization challenged the petitions of Walsh and Vazquez. "We're clearly in dis- agreement (with Arango). We feel the deci- sion was prejudiced. The HCDO made the decision as well as the complaint," Walsh said. Walsh had a similar experience with HCDO tactics one year ago when she actu- ally won election to a council seat in Bayonne on the machine vote tally. Walsh then lost by 12 votes when election workers delivered absentee ballots to overcome Walsh's lead of more than 100 votes on machine-counted ballots. Superior Court Judge Francis McLaughlin found numerous "irregulari- ties" in the handling of the absentee ballots but upheld the election result anyway. McLaughlin said that though there were numerous irregularities, he did not find suf- ficient reason to overturn the election. Walsh said the previous HCDO victory was not in the voting, but in the counting of the votes. Court testimony disclosed that numerous absentee ballots were collected from residents planning to be at the Jersey Shore for a long weekend. All of those bal- lots were delivered by hand in unsealed envelopes by a Bayonne municipal worker who also worked for the Hudson County Democratic Organization on city time z ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 474 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 17:04:44 Subject: A Tale of Two Harveys -- Look What You Can Do With No Money Down A Tale of Two Harveys -- Look What You Can Do With No Money Down Urban Times News April 25 - May 1, 2003 By Steven Glazer Jersey City-It looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, but officials of the Housing Trust of America are adamant that their company is not a renamed Lafayette Manning. That company, now bankrupt, was controlled by a New York Developer named Harvey Shapiro who has established a claim of ownership on a key piece of Jersey City real estate, by unprecedented means. The property was once known as Whitlock Cordage and was once a major employer in Jersey City, located at Lafayette and Manning Streets, hence the name Lafayette Manning. But Wallace Scruggs, CEO of Housing Trust of America, says that Shapiro approached Housing Trust of America last November already in bankruptcy. Housing Trust was the only bidder and was awarded the property by the Bankruptcy Court for $4.3 Million. Housing Trust of America will also pay some additional amounts for dem- olition and clean up on the site that will ulti- mately bring the all-in total to about $4.75 Million. It is unclear why Shapiro would represent the sale of the property to Scruggs' syndication effort while the property was in the hands of a trustee of the bankruptcy court. It would be the job of the Trustee to find a buyer for any assets of the bankrupt- cy estate. Now that Housing Trust has bought the property, Scruggs said in a tele- phone interview, Shapiro is out of the pic- ture completely as far as any claim of own- ership that he might have. Scruggs' statement is in sharp con- tradiction to representations made in Housing Trusts' disclosures to the Federal Bankruptcy Court and also sharply contra- dicts the Trustee in Bankruptcy. Robert Pimienta, the court appointed Trustee said that Housing Trust's filings with the court clearly disclose that Shapiro has an owner- ship interest in the project with Housing Trust. Pimienta also said that though the fmancial distributions of the bankruptcy are largely concluded, they are not complete. Pimienta will continue to monitor the progress of the transaction for the con- tinued benefit of creditors, including the City of Jersey City. The price paid will be sufficient to satisfy most of the claims of creditors, but if Shapiro does have a carried interest in the resulting project, the Trustee would pursue recovery efforts, possibly attaching those assets of Shapiro's IF need be. Pimienta also said that he intended to look further into the sale of the one build- ing, 160 Lafayette, sitting on a landlocked parcel in the middle of the site. Pimienta said that the sale was suspect, possibly not an "arm's length" transaction, and had at least the appearance of a fraudulent transfer of ownership. Housing Trust says it will renovate the buildings on the site of the former rope factory to include 330 housing units, includ- ing 198 affordable housing units and 132 market rate units. The site includes roughly 6.5 acres and ten buildings, one of which had been subdivided and sold by Shapiro. But that building will also be included in the historic designation and the renovation, although it is currently under separate and independent ownership. Dan Wrieden, the city's historic preservation officer says that the site quali- fies for historic landmark designation by the city pm a number of different parameters. Wrieden says that if the developers careful- ly adhere to requirements set out in federal guidelines, not very different than the municipal code modeled on those require- ments, state and national historic designa- tion would probably follow. This makes a much more attractive proposition for the investors whom Housing Trust will rely on to finance the project in their syndications. Historic designation would provide an additional tier of tax cred- its, dollar for dollar credits, not deductions, to investors. These tax credits would sub- stantially increase the return to investors in the property, if the project qualifies. Housing Trust has previously completed similar size projects including one in Atlanta with 356 units, according to Scruggs, so this should be no great leap for the syndicator. Scruggs said unequivocally that Shapiro had no carried interest in the project or the property going forward. The court awarded the property to Housing Trust who now has until June to get their final prepara- tions ready to close, and with that, says Scruggs, Shapiro is out of the picture. The plan is almost exactly the same idea that Shapiro first proposed when he initially became involved with the property, includ- ing affordable housing, and historic preser- vation, although Shapiro added the embel- lishment of housing for seniors. Smack in the middle of the Morris Canal Redevelopment plan area is a 6.5- acre site that once housed an industrial mill in the Pittsburgh rustbelt school of industri- al revolution architecture. With the aid of some Hudson County employees moon- lighting as Jersey City Council members, a New York developer got a one-of-kind pay- ment plan to rescue the property from auc- tion sale to clear up tax arrears. Kindly council members then helped the developer get a special zoning classification for the property; the only one of its kind there is or has ever been in Jersey City. When a property owner falls behind in property tax and water and sewer assessments, the amounts owed build until the city executes a lien on the property. That lien puts a cloud on the title so the owner cannot sell or mortgage or transfer the prop- erty without first paying the amount owed. This is what happened in the case of 170 Lafayette Street. Harvey Shapiro, the developer, wanted to acquire the property by paying the tax arrears and satisfying the lien. Only, Mr. Shapiro did not have the cash to pay all the money owed. City officials with 20 years service to the city spoke for the record on the con- dition that their identity not be disclosed. "Mariano Vega was the ramrod for this proj- ect for Shapiro. He took point. He ran this thing around like it was his baby. Vega took very good care of Mr. Shapiro. He probably gave Shapiro one of his Mariano Vega Medals of Honor." Vega has occasionally passed out as rewards Olympic style medals with his likeness, on a ribbon, bearing the legend, "Mariano Vega Medal of Honor." Helpful Council members, includ- ing L. Harvey Smith, Mariano Vega, E. Junior Maldonado, William Gaughan, and then-council president Tom DeGise affixed their signatures to a council resolution giv- ing Mr. Shapiro the right to pay off the lien over a period of three years. "This is always cash on the barrel head, almost without exception," said the city official. But this time the Council gave its approval. Approval in hand, Mr. Shapiro went straight to the planning board and, using the Council resolution in lieu of a deed, asked planning board members for a zoning approval of a type not seen before. **Shapiro got it. City officials said that the planning board suspended normal requirements for such action since Shapiro could not repre- sent clear title to the property and could not document paid up status as to city taxes owed. Normally, lack of either clear title or paid up taxes are non-starters for property owners seeking zoning approval,. Shortly after getting the zoning he needed, Mr. Shapiro was able to subdivide the parcel in a way that carved out a landlocked lot exact- ly equal to the footprint of one of the build- ings on the site. Shapiro then sold that building and the land it sat on for $300,000. Sources in city government who watched the progress of the property over the last 15 years said that there has been no comparable exception made for a property in their collective memory. "There have been payment plans permitted to clear up property taxes in arrears to help individual homeowners avoid foreclosure in cases of extreme duress and hardship. But here we are talking about homeowners in owner- occupied housing who have fallen on hard times. Serious illness, disability and such things were the handful of exceptions in all these years, when a payment plan was per- mitted. It has never happened with a com- mercial property like this one," say city offi- cials. Shapiro never made any payment on cials. Shapiro never made any payment on the payment plan. Mr. Shapiro apparently seduced Council members Vega and others with a strong pitch how intended to renovate the structure and turn it into either low-income or affordable housing for seniors and try and landmark the former sweat shop as historic landmark. Some Council members were a little more seduced than others like Harvey Smith who received cash from Shapiro. Smith's campaign finance disclosure reports show cash contributions from Mr. Shapiro. Mr. Smith was not available for comment. Council members were so taken with Shapiro's persuasiveness that they did not look very critically or deeply into the developer's track record. Had they done more due diligence they would have found that are similar scheme by Shapiro in Syracuse, NY wound up a spectacular fail- ure with a $15 Million bankruptcy. Not only did Shapiro not make a single payment on the payment plan granted by council members, but now Shapiro's development corporation, Lafayette Manning, is itself in bankruptcy. Shapiro never paid the city a penny for the property, but did have suffi- cient control over the property to sell the one building and renting another for amounts variously reported as "between $17,000 and $20,000 a month." Now, the council has initiated steps to apply for a grant for affordable housing for the benefit of Housing Trust, through the city's HEDC, according to Doug Greenfeld of the HEDC. The grant is what Greenfeld called a "pass through" meaning only the municipality can apply for it but the developer, in this case, Housing Trust of America is liable for the repayment. The grant, says Greenfeld, is for $4.5 Million although it could wind up being more than the purchase price of the proper- ty. A spokesperson for Housing Trust said that the ultimate investment will be more than $50 Million. Scruggs said that the bal- ance of the financing would include tax free loans through the New Jersey Housing ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 475 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 17:09:43 Subject: Harvey Smith, Mariano Vega Took Money From NY Developer Harvey Shapiro Harvey Smith, Mariano Vega Took Money From NY Developer Harvey Shapiro Urban Times News April 25 - May 1, 2003 UTN NEWS Jersey City-It looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, but officials of the Urban Housing Trust are adamant that their company is not a renamed Lafayette Manning. That company, now bankrupt is owned by a New York Developer named Harvey Shapiro who has established a claim of ownership on a key piece of Jersey City real estate, by unprecedented means. Smack in the middle of the Morris Canal Redevelopment plan area is a 6.5-acre site that once housed an industrial mill in the Pittsburgh rustbelt school of industrial revolution architecture. With the aid of some Hudson County employees moonlighting as Jersey City Council mem- bers, a New York developer got a one-of- kind payment plan to rescue the property from auction sale to clear up tax arrears. Kindly council members then helped the developer get a special zoning classifica- tion for the property; the only one of its kind there is or has ever been in Jersey City. When a property owner falls behind in property tax and water and sewer assessments, the amounts owed build until the city executes a lien on the property. That lien puts a cloud on the title so the owner cannot sell or mortgage or transfer the property without first paying the amount owed. This is what happened in the case of 170 Lafayette Street. Harvey Shapiro, the developer, wanted to acquire the property by paying the tax arrears and satisfying the lien. Only, Mr. Shapiro did not have the cash to pay all the money owed. City officials with 20 years serv- ice to the city spoke for the record on the condition that their identity not be dis- closed. "Mariano Vega was the ramrod for this project for Shapiro. He took point. He ran this thing around like it was his baby. Vega took very good care of Mr. Shapiro. He probably gave Shapiro one of his Mariano Vega Medals of Honor." Vega has occasionally passed out as rewards Olympic style medals with his likeness, on a ribbon, bearing the legend, "Mariano Vega Medal of Honor." Helpful, Council members, including L. Harvey Smith, Mariano Vega, E. Junior Maldonado, William Gaughan, and then-council president Tom DeGise affixed their signatures to a council resolu- tion giving Mr. Shapiro the right to pay off the lien over a period of three years. "This is always cash on the barrel head, almost without exception," said the city official. But this time the Council gave its approval. Approval in hand, Mr. Shapiro went straight to the planning board and, using the Council resolution in lieu of a deed, asked planning board members for a zon- ing approval of a type not seen before. Shapiro got it. Shortly after getting the zon- ing he needed, Mr. Shapiro was able to subdivide the parcel in a way that carved out a landlocked lot exactly equal to the footprint of one of the buildings on the site. Shapiro then gold that building and the land It sat on for $300,000. Sources in city government who watched the progress of the property over the last 15 years said that there has been no comparable exception made for a property in their collective memory. "There have been payment plans permitted to clear up property taxes in arrears to help individual homeowners avoid foreclosure in cases of extreme duress and hardship. But here we are talking about homeowners in owner- occupied housing who have fallen on hard times. Serious illness, disability and such things were the handful of exceptions in all these years, when a payment plan was per- mitted. It has never happened with a com- mercial property like this one," say city officials. Shapiro never made any payment on the payment plan. Mr. Shapiro apparently seduced Council members Vega and others with a strong pitch how intended to renovate the structure and turn it into either low-income or affordable housing for seniors and try and landmark the former sweat shop as his- toric landmark. Some Council members were a little more seduced than others like Harvey Smith who received cash from Shapiro. Smith's campaign finance disclo- sure reports show cash contributions from Mr. Shapiro. Council members were so taken with Shapiro's persuasiveness that they did not look very critically or deeply into the developer's track record. Had they done more due diligence they would have found that are similar scheme by Shapiro in Syracuse, NY wound up a spectacular fail- ure with a $15 Million bankruptcy. Not only did Shapiro not make a single pay- ment on the payment plan granted by coun- cil members, but now Shapiro's develop- ment corporation, Lafayette Manning, is itself in bankruptcy. Shapiro never paid the city a penny for the property, but did have sufficient control over the property to sell the one building and renting another for amounts variously reported as "between $17,000 and $20,000 a month Z ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 476 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 17:25:32 Subject: HCDO Offic Manager Defects - Slams "Uncle Harvey" Sellout HCDO Offic Manager Defects - Slams "Uncle Harvey" Sellout Urban Times News April 25 - May 1, 2003 By UTN NEWS Email. stories@urbantimesnews.com Jersey City Allen Ross used to be the office manager of the Hudson County Democratic Organization Office on Monticello Avenue. But then Ross' conscience became unmanageable. Ross can now be seen and heard around Jersey City campaigning, practically crusading, for Glenn Cunningham, but also against The Hudson County Democratic Organization. Ross' change of heart about his former party affiliation and employer centers heavily on Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith. Ross recalls Smith's role in the handling of Rev. Ralph Brower's nomina- tion by Mayor Glenn Cunningham to the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency. Smith earned himself the nickname for the shameless way he connived with other HCDO aligned council members to block Rev. Brower's appointment. According to Ross the incident was "shameful." Those present last year at the City Council meet- ing witnessed an obviously pre-arranged parliamentary stunt carefully orchestrated by Council President Smith with the con- nivance of Council members William A. Gaughan and E. Junior Maldonado. Eyewitnesses saw Smith hang his head as Gaughan told the board that Smith had told Gaughan earlier that the Rev. was in poor health and that the Rev.'s eyesight was failing. Thoughtfully, Gaughan moved to table the motion on Brower's appointment and like lightning, Maldonado seconded the motion taking it out of play for at least two weeks. Only Viola Richardson was still loyal to Mayor Glenn Cunningham of the nine council members. That meant simply that even if Richardson moved to "untable" the motion and put it to a vote, there would be no second and the appointment would remain tabled forever. As this drama played out in just minutes, witnesses watching Smith's body language saw obvious discomfort as Smith seemed to shrink to half his considerable size with his face low and looking at the table top. Rev. Brower, seated in the back of the crowded council chamber was pres- ent as all this played out and those seated around Brower cried out that Brower was present in the chamber. Those calls were followed by jeers of "You better get some glasses," while the council ignored the obvious presence of Brower and tabled the motion while Smith squirmed in his now hot seat. Ross says that Smith should remember that he sits on the council now only because the man he opposes and is now running against for 31st District Senate Seat helped Smith into office. "Glenn Cunningham put Smith on the Cunningham ticket, when DeGise and the Hudson County Democrats refused and would not have him. Harvey needs to remember that now that he is opposing the man who helped him. Now Harvey is helping the men who would not help Harvey. That is the kind of guy we are talking about. We all need to remember that." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 477 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 17:33:51 Subject: Menendez Accused of Campaign Funding Violations Menendez Accused of Campaign Funding Violations Urban Times News April 25 - May 1, 2003 By Steven Glazer Email. sglazer*urbantimesnews.com Jersey City-Rev. Edward A. Allen National Board Member of Operation PUSH, called for a Federal investigation of violations of the Federal Election Law by. Congressman Robert Menendez. Allen has filed a formal complaint against Rep. Robert Menendez D- 13, with the Federal Elections Commission, charging violations of the new campaign finance laws. Allen, a lifelong resident, active in local politics for 30 years, and currently a member of the Jersey City Board of Education, says "In all the time that I have been active and involved I have never witnessed the arrogance and abuse of power exercised by our Congressman, Robert Menendez, D-13. As a lawmaker, one of Mr. Menendez' highest duties is to uphold the laws of the land-all of them. We find, sadly, to the contrary, that Mr. Menendez consis- tently places himself above the law. We have seen egregious examples recently." For example, says Allen, " During the past holiday season, he met with a majority and quorum of the Jersey City council without giving prior notice to the public in open defiance of the Open Meetings Act, the so-called sunshine law. He incited Council members to resist and obstruct the operation of government in Jersey City, by his control of party purse strings through his agent and long-time friend and associate, attorney Donald Scarinci. Scarinci is Treasurer of the Hudson County Democratic Organization and also Treasurer of Menendez for Congress. By tugging on these purse strings, with the aid of Scarinci, Menendez is able to make our local lawmakers dance like marionettes in a Punch and Judy show. "Half the Jersey City Council has full time, mostly no-show, little work jobs in the government of the County of Hudson, by appointment through the Hudson County Democratic Organization. This gives Menendez more direct and forceful control over these local lawmakers and administra- tors, through their salaries and the power to turn them on and off at will." In fact, of the nine Jersey City Council Members, 8 are active members of the Hudson County Democratic Organization and 4 are employed by the County of Hudson in polit- ically appointed jobs at salaries ranging from a low of $60,000 to a high of $95,000. "Newly enacted election law reforms were put in place exactly to stop abuses like these that have gone on too long." Says Allen. The new law prevents use of funds raised by higher office holders to benefit the campaigns of candidates for office at lower levels of government. "Mr. Menendez knows the law very well and is able to skirt it, doing violence to the spirit of the law if not the actual letter of it. The new laws strictly limit funds and the types of funds that can be raised by federal and state candidates and how those funds may be used. The law is clear on strict limits it places on the ability of a federal office hold- er like Mr. Menendez using his position and influence of the federal office he holds to raise money for local elections as Mr. Menendez has been doing. " "Menendez uses the power and influence of his federal office to raise money to fund local campaigns at the municipal and county level acting by and through the Hudson County Democratic Organization. The Hudson County Democratic Organization then orchestrates local cam- paigns implemented with fords raised by Mr. Menendez. The duplicity and hypocrisy of Mr. Menendez is outrageous when we see him just weeks earlier marching with Civil Rights leaders symbolically re-crossing the Edmund Pettus bridge. Then the Congressman comes home to obstruct and, through his paid agents on the Jersey City Council, thwart efforts to govern New Jersey's second largest city by its first African American Mayor, Glenn Cunningham. " Menendez has now turned his ire on the Governor who did not appoint Menendez' choice of jurists to the state's Supreme Court. Governor McGreevey appointed an exceptionally qualified African American jurist, Appellate Judge John Wallace to replace the court's only sit- ting African American member, Justice James Coleman Jr., who will be forced to retire when he turns 70 in May. Menendez publicly broke ranks with McGreevey for not appointing Menendez' choice, attorney Zulima Farber. Farber is Hispanic, but has no experience as a judge. A background check revealed that she was a motor vehicle scofflaw as well. The governor's office said that the motor vehicle violations were not the deciding issue; they did not work in her favor either. Allen also points to Farber's Cuban heritage. "Menendez constantly hides behind the Hispanic label. Look at the record and you will see that to Mr. Menendez, Hispanic or Latino means one thing and one thing only: Cuban. Menendez is a Hispanic who does not respond to the needs of his Puerto Rican constituents, in his definition of Hispanic. Menendez does not respond to the needs of Dominican constituents in his defmition of Hispanic. To Menendez Hispanic and Latino mean the same thing and they mean one thing only: Cuban. And Cuban does not include African American, Venezuelan, or a host of other ethnic groups. It means the smallest segment of the Hispanic popula- tion. Menendez is allegedly a party leader uniting Democrats nationally. Instead, he is dividing Democrats locally in his self-serving strategy of divide and con- quer. Menendez is the problem. Menendez is the living example of "Do as I say and not as I do." His misuse of power and abuse of the public trust of his office mark him as no leader at all, but as a man without integrity ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reprint from NJO.Com posted Message 478 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 22:14:40 Subject: The Urban Times News 1531.1. The whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me.............. by newtonjo, 4/25/03 16:53 ET Re: URBAN TIMES? by TRUTHSEEKER1, 4/25/03 To refer to the Urban Times News as a “newspaper” is an oxymoron.What the Urban Times News is a rag promoting Bobby Jackson’s agenda. There is very little truth and no credibility to the UTN. A community leader at a JC Council meeting asked a reporter who wanted to interview her who he works for. The reporter Steven Glazer answered, “I work for Bobby Jackson and the Urban Times News”. She asked him what does he do for BJ and the UTN and he answered “I do what ever he wants me to do ...I was hired to promote his agenda.” » Forums Help » User Agreement » Privacy Policy About Us | User Agreement | Privacy Policy | Help/Feedback | Advertise With Us © 2003 NJ.com. All Rights Reserved. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reprint from the Njo posted Message 479 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 22:17:31 Subject: Urban Times News 1531.2. URBAN TIMES? by realmacaw, 4/25/03 19:11 ET Re: URBAN TIMES? by TRUTHSEEKER1, 4/25/03 The Urban Times News is a paper of honor fighting evil forces. I find it particularly useful for lining the bottom of my cage. It can have no higher purpose. As always, your faithful parrot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reprint from NJO posted Message 480 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 22:18:35 Subject: The Urban Times News 1531.3. End the UTN Misery by citizenable, 4/28/03 13:28 ET Re: URBAN TIMES? by TRUTHSEEKER1, 4/28/03 If all remaining advertisers would stop advertising in this hate-filled rag, as the County of Hudson, the City of Jersy City, and the Jersey City Board of Education have done, it can be put out of it's misery. For sure, very few would pay to read it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** REprint from njo posted Message 481 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 22:19:57 Subject: Urban Times News 1531.3.1. sure they would like to by ebonynivory, 4/28/03 21:59 ET Re: URBAN TIMES? by TRUTHSEEKER1, 4/28/03 I'm sure that UTN advertisers (spelled h-o-s-t-a-g-e-s) would like nothing more than to quit paying that rag for "business". However, I'm sure that they're initially strongarmed into advertising by some vague appeal to the "black community", then the hook is set and they can't get out (by some vague or overt suggestion of race loyalty or betrayal or some such nonsense). Given the actual content, it's the only explanation. » Forums Help » User Agreement » Privacy Policy About Us | User Agreement | Privacy Policy | Help/Feedback | Advertise With Us © 2003 NJ.com. All Rights Reserved. ***************** End Of Article ****************** REprint from njo posted Message 482 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 22:19:58 Subject: Urban Times News 1531.3.1. sure they would like to by ebonynivory, 4/28/03 21:59 ET Re: URBAN TIMES? by TRUTHSEEKER1, 4/28/03 I'm sure that UTN advertisers (spelled h-o-s-t-a-g-e-s) would like nothing more than to quit paying that rag for "business". However, I'm sure that they're initially strongarmed into advertising by some vague appeal to the "black community", then the hook is set and they can't get out (by some vague or overt suggestion of race loyalty or betrayal or some such nonsense). Given the actual content, it's the only explanation. » Forums Help » User Agreement » Privacy Policy About Us | User Agreement | Privacy Policy | Help/Feedback | Advertise With Us © 2003 NJ.com. All Rights Reserved. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reprint from NJO.com posted Message 483 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 22:22:29 Subject: THE URBAN TIMES NEWS 1531.3.2. Untitled by EASEDROPED1, 4/28/03 23:04 ET Re: URBAN TIMES? by TRUTHSEEKER1, 4/28/03 I must commend the woman who spoke before the BOE and requested they stop advertising in the Urban Times. She was dynamite, she gave them more then they new what to do with. The good (sic) Rev.Allen tried to discredit her.I over heard after the meeting someone say that she is the same women who does a lot charitable work for children.At the next meeting the UTN was gone. Click to view these responses Thanks...................... by sighhhhhhhhh, 5/1/03 » Forums Help » User Agreement » Privacy Policy About Us | User Agreement | Privacy Policy | Help/Feedback | Advertise With Us © 2003 NJ.com. All Rights Reserved. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reprint from NJO.com posted Message 484 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2003 at 22:24:31 Subject: THE URBAN TIMES 1531.3.2.1. Thanks................................. by sighhhhhhhhh, 5/1/03 20:11 ET Re: URBAN TIMES? by TRUTHSEEKER1, 5/1/03 Thanks for the compliment and I am glad that the Board Of Education did the right thing.If the children are required to live up to a Code of Conduct so should the adults. I am pleased that the board members were listening…, Robin P. » Forums Help » User Agreement » Privacy Policy About Us | User Agreement | Privacy Policy | Help/Feedback | Advertise With Us © 2003 NJ.com. All Rights Reserved. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 485 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2003 at 07:46:35 Subject: Peter Weiss, Jersey Journal: Gov due to boost HCDO Gov due to boost HCDO Peter Weiss Jersey Journal Friday, May 02, 2003 Gov. James E. McGreevey's problems with the Hudson County Democratic Organization leadership apparently aren't as great as some people believe, or want to believe. Sources say the governor is coming here next week to endorse the entire HDCO slate in the Democratic primary. In particular, HCDO leaders want his support in the 31st Legislative District, where they're engaged in a battle that has captured statewide attention. Assemblyman and Bayonne Mayor Joseph Doria is seeking re-election on the HCDO slate while Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham heads the rival Democrats for Hudson County slate as its state Senate candidate. ... For the rest, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MozyDozy posted Message 486 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2003 at 08:05:03 Subject: People of Hudson County, Your Hour of Liberation is at Hand! People of Hudson County, Your Hour of Liberation is at Hand! The MARINES ARE COMING to kick out the gang of thieves that have been using the government to make things cushy for themselves and their friends these many years! ***************** End Of Article ****************** MayWee posted Message 487 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2003 at 08:08:52 Subject: Kounty Konniver Kennelly Is there anything to the buzz that Jim Kennelly wanted to get a press job in the Schundler mayor office back in 97? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Al the Antique Dealer posted Message 488 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2003 at 08:47:32 Subject: Jack Shaw? What's Jack Shaw been up to? I haven't heard anything about him since Ed Pulver died. I see that the building over there on Montgomery Street is up for sale. I guessed that with all the razzamataz all over the place that Jack would be leading the charge for on side or the other. Is this one storm that he is going to sit out in the harbor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Henson posted Message 489 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2003 at 09:14:40 Subject: Re: Kounty Konniver Kennelly : Is there anything to the buzz that Jim Kennelly wanted to get a press job in the Schundler mayor office back in 97? Yep, back in Winter-Spring-Summer of 97 (the-election-without-end) the present and current newly-duly annointed Kounty Konniver slobbered all over himself in the throwaway that nobody in Jersey City reads (As a Doctor friend of mine once remarked to someone seeking free advice, "Something given without charge is, by definition, worthless."). Balancing his checkbook, wordsmith Jim now believed that a credit was due, so the deposit slip got sent off to 280 Grove. Luckily, thankfully, Bret was not his usual decisive self here and held a seance with his top familiar. The sage advice was redered: "As it stands now, you've got almost every wet-powder, woulduv-coulduv-shoulduv, wannabee Napoleon of Hudson County Politics on the payroll now. Don't be greedy, you don't need to corner the market in these characters." So now the Konniver goes back to his grimy keyboard and declares war. From GOD BLESS YOU BRET, the pendulum precipitously swings and every articles rips Schundler, at one point comparing him to the Devil, even. Since the readership hovered about 59, not even reaching room temperature, it seemed pretty futile. But as we see now, the the Old Hudson County Adage is proved yet again: "You can fool all of the people, some of the time; you can fool some of the people all of the time -- AND THAT'S ALL IT TAKES TO GET OVER!!!!" ***************** End Of Article ****************** REPRINT OF:ASSOCIATED PRESS WIRE posted Message 490 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2003 at 15:04:25 Subject: HCDO SUES MAYOR GLENN CUNNINGHAM Hudson Democratic Organization sues Democratic mayor The Associated Press 5/2/2003, 11:27 a.m. ET JERSEY CITY, N.J. (AP) -- The Hudson County Democratic Organization has sued Mayor Glenn Cunningham on charges of campaign finance violations, escalating an intraparty feud. Cunningham, a Democrat who heads the state's second-largest city, faces an organization-backed candidate, City Council President L. Harvey Smith, in the June 3 party primary for state Senate. The mayor has been vying for political primacy in the county with U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Union City. The organization and others, including Smith, charged that Cunningham and several of his political committees have failed to file required financial disclosure reports. The suit also names the state Election Law Enforcement Commission, the agency charged with receiving the disclosure forms, as a defendant. A message seeking comment from a Cunningham spokesman was not immediately returned Friday. ELEC executive director Fred Herrmann said he could not comment on the lawsuit, nor confirm or deny any ELEC inquiry. In general, candidate committees and political action committees are required to file financial disclosure reports, he said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DA' TRUTH posted Message 491 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2003 at 18:07:51 Subject: More UTN -Bull A well written speech, big words, and a tat of eloquence but, its lacking one thing …..Credibility! You preach a good preach but again no credibility. Let us go to the time machine. Is it true that your closest friend, the person who helped you master mind this bogus attack is Bobby Jackson? The same Bobby Jackson who teamed up with Gerry McCann who were both charged with civil rights violations, the men who broke federal election laws trying to stop African Americans from Voting in Jersey City……….it’s all about credibility Rev. and you got NONE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 492 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2003 at 19:57:01 Subject: 1st Amendment and the Web : :I JUST READ YOUR POSTING WHY WOULD ANYONE GIVE YOU A HARD TIME ABOUT THE 1ST AMMED. HOW DOES THAT APPLY TO A WEB CHAT ROOM? I don't understand. What do you mean? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 493 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2003 at 11:02:41 Subject: New York Times: It Almost Seems Like Torricelli And Lautenberg All Over Again It Almost Seems Like Torricelli And Lautenberg All Over Again ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 494 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2003 at 11:37:17 Subject: Jersey Journal: Foes: Freeze Cunningham, allies' war chest Foes: Freeze Cunningham, allies' war chest His response: HCDO suit is effort to disenfranchise voters Jersey Journal Saturday, May 03, 2003 By Peter Weiss Journal staff writer The Hudson County Democratic Organization has filed a lawsuit to freeze the campaign funds of Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, a candidate for state Senate, and his allies for other offices in the June Democratic primary. The suit alleges that various Cunningham fund-raising organizations "have routinely ignored and violated" state campaign finance report filing requirements. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just dropped in posted Message 495 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2003 at 11:51:57 Subject: Re: Bart Now that was a real weasel's weasel! What was his name? I know that the first name was Bart, but I can't think of the last name. And the best of it was that he didn't start in Jersey City but slid on down out of North Bergen, sort of a blazing the trail for Jose Arango. : I don't know if your Jersey City's version of Mother Teresa, but since I moved here every mayor has had his pet weasel. The exception that proved the rule was Cucci, HE WAS HIS OWN WEASEL! I didn't see his first ride on the merry-go-round, but on the second (if not better) time around McCann had that character on the city payroll getting paid big bucks for pr work while police were getting laid off. When the general public was ready to storm the walls over this, the guy had to take a walk but started up a magazine that nobody read but still managed to get plenty of ads. : : You post would be wonderful if it did not contain one major flaw ….Bobby Jackson! : : People do not dislike Mr. Jackson for his ethnic background; we dislike him because he is dishonest. : : If Mr. Jackson were a big yellow bird from a street named Sesame, we would still feel the same way. : : • He is dishonest. : : • He was found guilty of civil rights violations against fellow African-Americans : : • He extorts from the waterfront corporations with his many “Lobbyist firms” : : • However, most importantly he does nothing to better his own community : : • What kind of role model is he to the children of Jersey City, can you imagine what the future holds if they all followed his example. Scary huh? : : : : I would love to know the wonderful things he has done for his community. : : Tell me and maybe just maybe you can change my views until then my opinion stays as is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 3for5 posted Message 496 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2003 at 14:13:07 Subject: Re: Bart I don't think that it was North Bergen. I think that he came from West New York. He was some kind of politico up there but he wound in a problem and had to leave town. It was North Hudson for sure. : Now that was a real weasel's weasel! What was his name? I know that the first name was Bart, but I can't think of the last name. : And the best of it was that he didn't start in Jersey City but slid on down out of North Bergen, sort of a blazing the trail for Jose Arango. : : I don't know if your Jersey City's version of Mother Teresa, but since I moved here every mayor has had his pet weasel. The exception that proved the rule was Cucci, HE WAS HIS OWN WEASEL! I didn't see his first ride on the merry-go-round, but on the second (if not better) time around McCann had that character on the city payroll getting paid big bucks for pr work while police were getting laid off. When the general public was ready to storm the walls over this, the guy had to take a walk but started up a magazine that nobody read but still managed to get plenty of ads. : : : You post would be wonderful if it did not contain one major flaw ….Bobby Jackson! : : : People do not dislike Mr. Jackson for his ethnic background; we dislike him because he is dishonest. : : : If Mr. Jackson were a big yellow bird from a street named Sesame, we would still feel the same way. : : : • He is dishonest. : : : • He was found guilty of civil rights violations against fellow African-Americans : : : • He extorts from the waterfront corporations with his many “Lobbyist firms” : : : • However, most importantly he does nothing to better his own community : : : • What kind of role model is he to the children of Jersey City, can you imagine what the future holds if they all followed his example. Scary huh? : : : : : : I would love to know the wonderful things he has done for his community. : : : Tell me and maybe just maybe you can change my views until then my opinion stays as is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cecil B. Demille posted Message 497 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2003 at 14:54:19 Subject: Cast of thousands Why do I get the distinct impression that that certain cretin who's been doing the cutandpaste crosspost on every board in Hudson County (claiming to be a cop, a woman, pianokeys, etc.) and posting a lot of great white hope hoopla (makin like Glenn is going to let loose the boogeymen at Newport and only Bobby Menendez's wind-up wooden soldier mayors (after all, it would be like so nasty to call them puppets and they are too big anyhow) is between like the vast (If I wanted to wax Churchillian, I'd add "brutish." I'd be tempted to throw in "docile," too, but as nobody studies Latin or picks up a dictionary anymore, the effect would be like totally lost) hordes of the east and the sanctity of female virute, as I was trying to say before I so rudely interrupted myself by a like derailed train of thought, why do I believe that that certain individual (WHO IS ANONYMOUS! NOBODY KNOWS WHO HE IS! IT'S LIKE PETER PARKER AND SPIDERMAN JUMPING RIGHT OUTTA YER SCREEN!!!) will not be highlighting and copying the text from the post to which this rant is a followup? : : Is there anything to the buzz that Jim Kennelly wanted to get a press job in the Schundler mayor office back in 97? : Yep, back in Winter-Spring-Summer of 97 (the-election-without-end) the present and current newly-duly annointed Kounty Konniver slobbered all over himself in the throwaway that nobody in Jersey City reads (As a Doctor friend of mine once remarked to someone seeking free advice, "Something given without charge is, by definition, worthless."). Balancing his checkbook, wordsmith Jim now believed that a credit was due, so the deposit slip got sent off to 280 Grove. Luckily, thankfully, Bret was not his usual decisive self here and held a seance with his top familiar. The sage advice was redered: "As it stands now, you've got almost every wet-powder, woulduv-coulduv-shoulduv, wannabee Napoleon of Hudson County Politics on the payroll now. Don't be greedy, you don't need to corner the market in these characters." So now the Konniver goes back to his grimy keyboard and declares war. From GOD BLESS YOU BRET, the pendulum precipitously swings and every articles rips Schundler, at one point comparing him to the Devil, even. Since the readership hovered about 59, not even reaching room temperature, it seemed pretty futile. But as we see now, the the Old Hudson County Adage is proved yet again: "You can fool all of the people, some of the time; you can fool some of the people all of the time -- AND THAT'S ALL IT TAKES TO GET OVER!!!!" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Butch posted Message 498 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2003 at 21:46:01 Subject: Re: Cast of thousands I’m strong to the finish..cuz I eat my spinach I’m Popeye the sailor man! Oh by the way…………..Butch is back! nah,nah,nah, In the immortal words of Glenn D. Cunningham….I am rubber you are glue what ever you say bounces off me and sticks to you! ***************** End Of Article ****************** And still going.............................. posted Message 499 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 04, 2003 at 23:04:44 Subject: Cecil B. Demille you are old! Let us do the math...Cecil B. Demille were born in Aug 1881.,,, so that makes you about 122 years old...was is your secret? ***************** End Of Article ****************** You are Sad posted Message 500 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 05, 2003 at 00:31:14 Subject: who's doing the whining? Wow you are obviously un-informed. From what i here it isn't FOL who are trying to stop the concert. All the silly school yard politics (and JC has plenty of that) that are surrounding this event with The Loews caught in the middle is making it seem that its FOL but it isnt. and to say that Fol is fighting to keep it closed is a naive statement at best. Remember FOl is all volunteers and no money is being poured into from the city. FOL, with Its events is bringing people to journal square. I've been to a few events and had dinner before the show at crowed resturaunts with people that are going to the loews. these restaurants are usually empty. more Math for you Pete. More people at events = more money for more events. so quite YOUR whining and support your local area. Its funny that the people who are complaining are the one who dont do anything good for jersey city, much less anything at all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens posted Message 501 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 05, 2003 at 13:29:23 Subject: Parolegate continues, Joisey Joinal notwithstanding The JJ has embargoed the ongoing story of the apparent obstruction of justice in the investigation of the State Parole Board. This story appears everywhere throughout the State except here locally which is the seat of power of the Hudson County Democratic Organization and the home of Rep. Robert Menendez and, more importantly, attorney Donald Scarinci. A post referring to and linking to the story by Gannett State House reporter Sandy McClure appeared briefly this morning on the Hudson County forum of nj.com, but was then censored by deletion. Scarinci and Menendez control local politics here in Hudson County and Scarinci's influence extends to the State government as a result of his help in getting McGreevey elected. Scarinci is suspected of using his influence with McGreevey to win a parole for admitted Mafia Capo, Angelo Prisco. Governor James McGreevey's choice for Attorney General, Peter Harvey, acting Attorney General, is charged with the investigation of those alleged irregularites regarding the State's Parole Board. It appears that Scarinci's influence extends, through McGreevey, to acting Attorney General Harvey. In effect, Scarinci may be able to "investigate" himself by proxy. The story follows: http://www.injersey.com/gsbr/story/0,21421,731676,00.html By SANDY MCCLURE GANNETT STATE BUREAU TRENTON -- Employees at the state Parole Board and the Attorney General's Office are talking about how state investigators, who are looking into whether the governor's office was involved in the parole of reputed mobster Angelo Prisco, damaged a computer believed to contain evidence in the case, sources have told the Gannett State Bureau. "They dropped or damaged the (computer) server," one law enforcement source said. "It's either very bad luck or incompetence." When two state investigators picked up the computer server, believed to contain e-mails and other documents related to the case, from the Parole Board the week of April 7, they dropped it into a vehicle so hard that parts flew off, sources said. Investigators reported the following day that nothing could be retrieved from the computer server, sources said. Investigative sources, familiar with the ability of investigators to retrieve information from damaged computers, said if the information that Parole Board personnel believed was on the computer was there, dropping it should not have prevented retrieval of the information. Questions also have been raised about the handling of another source of 2002 Parole Board e-mails potentially critical to the issue of whether the governor's office was involved in the case. The e-mail messages were initially found by investigators on a main frame computer for the Department of Corrections. The e-mail messages were printed out, reviewed by investigators and returned to the Parole Board where they were thrown away by Executive Director Michael Dowling, sources said. When it was discovered that the e-mails could not be obtained again because they had been automatically erased from the main frame computer, investigators were informed that the Parole Board was in possession of an old computer server, believed to contain copies of the e-mails and other documents related to the case, sources said. That's when investigators showed up at the Parole Board for the computer server and dropped it, sources said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 502 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 05, 2003 at 16:38:19 Subject: Re: Parolegate continues, Joisey Joinal notwithstanding : The JJ has embargoed the ongoing story of the apparent obstruction of justice in the investigation of the State Parole Board. This story appears everywhere throughout the State except here locally which is the seat of power of the Hudson County Democratic Organization and the home of Rep. Robert Menendez and, more importantly, attorney Donald Scarinci. A post referring to and linking to the story by Gannett State House reporter Sandy McClure appeared briefly this morning on the Hudson County forum of nj.com, but was then censored by deletion. : Scarinci and Menendez control local politics here in Hudson County and Scarinci's influence extends to the State government as a result of his help in getting McGreevey elected. Scarinci is suspected of using his influence with McGreevey to win a parole for admitted Mafia Capo, Angelo Prisco. Governor James McGreevey's choice for Attorney General, Peter Harvey, acting Attorney General, is charged with the investigation of those alleged irregularites regarding the State's Parole Board. It appears that Scarinci's influence extends, through McGreevey, to acting Attorney General Harvey. In effect, Scarinci may be able to "investigate" himself by proxy. : The story follows: : http://www.injersey.com/gsbr/story/0,21421,731676,00.html : By SANDY MCCLURE : GANNETT STATE BUREAU : TRENTON -- Employees at the state Parole Board and the Attorney General's Office are talking about how state investigators, who are looking into whether the governor's office was involved in the parole of reputed mobster Angelo Prisco, damaged a computer believed to contain evidence in the case, sources have told the Gannett State Bureau. : "They dropped or damaged the (computer) server," one law enforcement source said. "It's either very bad luck or incompetence." : When two state investigators picked up the computer server, believed to contain e-mails and other documents related to the case, from the Parole Board the week of April 7, they dropped it into a vehicle so hard that parts flew off, sources said. Investigators reported the following day that nothing could be retrieved from the computer server, sources said. : Investigative sources, familiar with the ability of investigators to retrieve information from damaged computers, said if the information that Parole Board personnel believed was on the computer was there, dropping it should not have prevented retrieval of the information. : Questions also have been raised about the handling of another source of 2002 Parole Board e-mails potentially critical to the issue of whether the governor's office was involved in the case. : The e-mail messages were initially found by investigators on a main frame computer for the Department of Corrections. The e-mail messages were printed out, reviewed by investigators and returned to the Parole Board where they were thrown away by Executive Director Michael Dowling, sources said. : When it was discovered that the e-mails could not be obtained again because they had been automatically erased from the main frame computer, investigators were informed that the Parole Board was in possession of an old computer server, believed to contain copies of the e-mails and other documents related to the case, sources said. : That's when investigators showed up at the Parole Board for the computer server and dropped it, sources said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Militello For State Senate posted Message 503 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 06, 2003 at 16:59:05 Subject: Militello Reports Campaign Cash Doubles Militello Reports Campaign Cash Doubles ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cuz' nobody cares !(About Jim) Now lets talk about the good stuff! posted Message 504 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 06, 2003 at 21:57:42 Subject: Re: Cast of thousands : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 505 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2003 at 07:46:11 Subject: Peter Weiss, Jersey Journal: Foes try to dull mayor's old badge Foes try to dull mayor's old badge Jersey Journal Peter Weiss Wednesday, May 07, 2003 Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham has harvested a lot of political hay from his law enforcement background. He's a retired police captain, a former chief U.S. marshal for New Jersey and a former Hudson County public safety director. He has used the marshal's position, in particular, to promote an image of virtue and honesty. Mention of it, along with a likeness of the marshal's badge, was used in ads during his campaign for mayor and is being used again in his bid for the Democratic nomination for state Senate in the 31st District. Discrediting the lawman image presents a formidable challenge for Cunningham foes, but it doesn't mean they're not trying. . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** 3for5 posted Message 506 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2003 at 10:32:21 Subject: Re: Militello Reports Campaign Cash Doubles They pointedly omit mention from what the war chest doubled. If it's up to $1.98 from .99 cents, then God Bless America! IF he had a little spurt of ticket sales to weenie roasts and the like, well you can figger in on that. Every business that might need a friend is not going to go out of their way to make an enemy on the cheap just to save a couple of hundred. They are going to buy the couple of tickets just to hedger their bets. And he is like a home town guy and everybody is going to be for the soldier with things as they are. But, if the fire hydrants are really opening up for Mr Kindandcourteous here, it's time to break out the magnifying glass. If it's outof town money, then why is that? It could be the Barbara Streisand type just paying for what they like. It could be money just looking to hit Hudson County upside the head, but not caring for Glenn. If the money is for the traditional payforplay crowd here in Hudson County, then, as they don't go to the bathroom without a note from mom, you know that the boyscout got told that the ball is coming his way, just hold out the hand with the glove like it was a big net. Then you can figger that HCDO got uggiewuggie Harvey in on the sly as the punching bag to take the wind out of Glenn's Jersey City vote, but the Bayonne prosecutor is where the hopes and money are sitting. : Militello Reports Campaign Cash Doubles ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Henson posted Message 507 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2003 at 11:23:19 Subject: Deja Vu All Over Again? I've been wondering too if we are seeing the Dummies Guide variation on the 2001 JC Mayor's camapaign play book. Manzo was pushed in to split up the white vote. Degise's Kommunication Wizard went railing about what a threat to civilization Glenn Kong was going to be, and all the while Manzo was biting Degise on the rump. This time around we've got Smitty splintering away at the black vote. I'm guessing too, with one black candidate versus one white candiate, they'll be a strong Ward F turnout. With two Arican-Americans, the same voltage level just won't get generated. Spending and extra hour in bed, at work, or in front of the TV is going to be the priority. It all works to the Bayonne guy's advantage. Glenn better learn real fast from Degise's 2001 booboos. Stop wasting time irrigating in the other camp's punch bowl. Cunningham is gonna need every ounce of effort convincing the voters what a bundle of joy he is. : They pointedly omit mention from what the war chest doubled. : If it's up to $1.98 from .99 cents, then God Bless America! IF he had a : little spurt of ticket sales to weenie roasts and the like, well you can : figger in on that. Every business that might need a friend is not going to : go out of their way to make an enemy on the cheap just to save a couple of : hundred. They are going to buy the couple of tickets just to hedger their : bets. And he is like a home town guy and everybody is going to be for : the soldier with things as they are. : But, if the fire hydrants are really opening up for : Mr Kindandcourteous here, it's time to break out the magnifying glass. If : it's outof town money, then why is that? It could be the Barbara Streisand : type just paying for what they like. It could be money just looking to : hit Hudson County upside the head, but not caring for Glenn. : If the money is for the traditional payforplay crowd here in Hudson County, : then, as they don't go to the bathroom without a note from mom, you know : that the boyscout got told that the ball is coming his way, just hold out : the hand with the glove like it was a big net. Then you can figger that HCDO : got uggiewuggie Harvey in on the sly as the punching bag to take the wind out of : Glenn's Jersey City vote, but the Bayonne prosecutor is where the hopes and : money are sitting. : : : Militello Reports Campaign Cash Doubles ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 508 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2003 at 12:11:59 Subject: Peter Weiss, Jersey Journal: McGreevey endorses the whole HCDO team McGreevey endorses the whole HCDO team Has words of praise for Menendez as leader Jersey Journal Wednesday, May 07, 2003 By Peter Weiss Journal staff writer Declaring the wisdom of keeping a successful team intact, Gov. James E. McGreevey last night gave his endorsement to the Hudson County Democratic Organization candidates for state Legislature, county executive and county clerk. "As governor, I'm saying this is a team that works hard, that works hard for you," McGreevey told a crowd of several hundred at Mercer Park in Bayonne, on the Jersey City border. . . . For the rest of the article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Outraged!!!! posted Message 509 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2003 at 12:31:59 Subject: Group is stiffed $5,000 from benefit concert that cost Jersey City $168G Group is stiffed $5,000 from benefit concert that cost Jersey City $168G Wednesday, May 07, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer The Patti LaBelle benefit concert held in Jersey City in January for the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation has so far turned over no money to the charity, Foundation officials said. The Jersey City Board of Education spent nearly $60,000 in federal funds on hundreds of tickets to the show, drawing criticism from some of its own board members. Organizers of the concert, which cost $168,268 to put on, say the charity will soon receive $5,000, but as of yesterday, no check had arrived at the JDRF's East Brunswick office, which was to be the beneficiary of the event. But even that contribution would be just 3 percent of the money raised through ticket sales, corporate sponsorships and donations. By contrast, when the Diabetes Foundation runs its own events - it was not involved in putting on the Patti LaBelle concert - its general guidelines call for contributing no less than 70 percent of the money raised directly to the charity. One member of the Board of Education, former Mayor Anthony Cucci, was sharply critical of school officials for buying 692 tickets - for a total of $58,820 - the day before the twice-delayed Jan. 24 show with money a11ocated by the federally funded Jersey City Employment and Training Program. "My opinion is that we bailed that show out," said Cucci. The event organizer, Arthur Williams, who is the supervisor of the school board's Fifteen Together and PACE Parents Advisory - two programs that focus on at-risk youth and which sponsored the LaBelle show - disputed Cucci's account and denied that the concert was ever in financial trouble. Williams is also chairman of the board of the city Housing Authority, whose Tenant Affairs Board was the concert's other sponsor. Assuming the Diabetes Foundation receives the full $5,000 that Williams says it will, the amount still pales in comparison with the approximately $169,405 the concert raised in ticket sales and donations. According to a 11/2-page balance sheet supplied by Williams: $106,000 went to LaBelle and her management agency; $3,920 for hors d'oeuvres; $1,500 for limousine service; $1,365 for dinner; $6,960 for airfare; $1,850 for "dressing room and amenities" and, $2,300 for rooms at the Hyatt Regency Jersey City, the new luxury hotel on the waterfront. It is unclear whether all of these expenditures were exclusively for LaBelle and her entourage. A written request for comment from LaBelle has not received a response, and her tour manager could not be reached. More than half of the $5,000 that Williams says will go to the JDRF is expected to come from investment firm Goldman Sachs, which is building the state's tallest skyscraper on the Jersey City waterfront. But the $3,250 check the company made out to the Diabetes Foundation and mailed to the event organizer's "committee headquarters," a post office box in Jersey City, was deposited into the account of the event organizer rather than being sent on to the charity. The event organizer is listed on the fundraising letter sent to Goldman Sachs as "The Jersey City Housing Authority/Tenant Affairs Board/Jersey City Public Schools/ "fifteen together"/Pace Parent Advisory. Williams said the account for this joint entity is the one into which the check was deposited. A spokeswoman for Goldman Sachs, Chanda Gibson, said the company made the check out directly to the Diabetes Foundation so it could be considered a charitable donation. She was unaware that the event organizer had deposited the money into its own account, she said, until she realized the funds had been drawn but that the Diabetes Foundation had never received the check. Williams declined to say who endorsed the check for deposit or which bank accepted it, but he called it a "clerical error" and said the check was "inadvertently deposited," but that the money would be sent to the JDRF. An official at the Diabetes Foundation said the charity was told by Williams that the money donated by Goldman Sachs was on its way. Williams declined to answer further questions on the matter. Held at the historic Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square, the show was canceled twice - in November and December - before finally coming together on Jan. 24, a day after the school board bought the 692 tickets. That money was part of a $126,000 a11ocation from the Employment and Training Program earmarked for the Fifteen Together and PACE programs. Williams said those tickets were given to students and their parents and that some students - about a half a dozen - served as ushers at the show. According to a letter sent to Superintendent of Schools Charles Epps Jr. by school board Chairman William DeRosa, several board members, including Cucci, have objected to the expenditure. "I don't think this was proper," said Cucci. "We've been taken advantage of, and that means the public has been take advantage of." After he learned about the expenditure several months ago, DeRosa said: "I'm not opposed to field trips . But I think they could have spread the money out so there could be more trips and more student participation." The board was not asked to ratify the ticket purchase until about a month after the show, in late February. Though the board has no authority to withhold funds, board members are generally apprised of planned expenditures before they are made and asked to vote to approve or disapprove them. "We owe the public an explanation in spending that amount of money," Cucci said. "Money that comes from taxpayers all over the country." A spokeswoman for the Board of Education, Joanne Kenny, said Epps and school Business Administrator Joanne Gilman declined to comment. Kenny said the school board itself was not a sponsor of the concert, only the two programs Williams runs. In contracts signed with the theater as well as other written agreements concerning the show, Williams consistently listed 346 Claremont Ave. - the school board's main office - as the address of the event organizer. Ed Santiago, the executive director of the Employment and Training Program, said the $126,000 sent by his organization to the Board of Education was part of an annual a11ocation and that school officials decided to spend almost half of it on the concert. "What they did with that money, that's up to the Board of Education," Santiago said. A spokesman for the state Department of Labor, which controls the Employment and Training Program's funding, said it was "looking into the matter" to determine if buying the concert tickets was an acceptable use of the money. "The standard for expenditures is whether they constitute a necessary and reasonable cost," said the spokesman, Peter Saharko, declining to speculate whether the money for the concert met that standard. Williams said performers of Patti LaBelle's stature cost a lot of money and he reiterated that he intends to send the $5,000 to the charity. "The goal was to raise as much as we could," he said. Ticket prices at the 1,500-seat Loew's ranged from $55 to $125. According to the document provided by Williams, exactly 1,500 tickets were sold, for a total of $126,650. Another $34,005 was raised in donations from unnamed individuals and corporations and $8,750 was generated by corporate "sponsorships," including the mistakenly deposited Goldman Sachs check. The $125 tickets, which provided access to a pre-show ----party, did not include seat assignments, creating confusion when those who bought the most expensive tickets in some cases were unable to sit up front because those seats had already been sold and assigned, said theater director Colin Egan. Williams said the concert was a success, enjoyed by children and adults. "It was a family event for students and their parents," he said. Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, along with Epps, Santiago, City Council President L. Harvey Smith and mayoral political advisers Bobby Jackson and Joseph Cardwell were listed as honorary chairmen. In the contract signed with the Loew's Theater, Williams stated that the Mayor's Office had agreed to arrange security for the show and at one point Cunningham himself took the stage to sing along with Patti LaBelle. A spokesman for the mayor, Stan H. Eason, declined to comment about the event. %%source%%Journal staff writers%%endsource%% Earl Morgan and Jeff Theodore contributed to this report. » Send This Page | » Print This Page Copyright 2003 The Jersey Journal. Used with permission. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Outraged!More Tax $$$$ wasted...how much did we loose on this one! posted Message 510 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2003 at 12:38:02 Subject: IRap concert canceled fears of violence cited Rap concert canceled fears of violence cited Wednesday, May 07, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer A controversial concert scheduled for the Loew's Jersey Theater that was to have been co-sponsored by the autonomous Jersey City Employment and Training Program and the city was abruptly canceled yesterday after officials said they were worried that violence would break out. The show, which had drawn the ire of Councilman Steve Lipski of Journal Square and several residents of the area, was billed as a recruitment drive for the federally funded Employment and Training Program, and was to have been headlined by rap performer Fat Joe and the Terror Squad and R&B singer Amerie. A spokesman for Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, who last month sent a letter to the theater manager endorsing the concert and asking that the fees for using the city-owned venue be waived, said yesterday that the city had "intelligence" that two groups of youths involved in a skirmish on Forrest Street Sunday planned to continue fighting at the concert. "They had mentioned the concert, and there was a belief that this would be continued" at the show, said the spokesman, Stan H. Eason. "This one group said something to the effect that they could meet up (at the concert)." At least seven calls were made to the police Sunday afternoon complaining of street fights among large groups, as well as public drinking, on Forrest between Ocean Avenue and Martin Luther King Drive, near where the Martin Luther King Parade was held. No arrests were made in the Forrest Street incidents. "We learned of altercations . along the Martin Luther King Day parade route," said the Rev. Edward Allen, who was to be the concert's promoter. "If what happened Sunday repeats itself, that could be a situation that none of us wants." Allen, a board member of the Hudson County Schools of Technology, does not work for the Employment and Training Program, but his production company, Liberty City, was to put on the show. At a community meeting held last week by Lipski, Allen defended the decision to hold the show at the Loew's, which many of those in attendance opposed because of security concerns. Lipski and several area residents objected to the fact that the concert was to be open only to out-of-school youths between the ages of 16 and 21 and objected to some of the lyrics of Fat Joe songs, which they said are laced with profanities and references to violence. Yesterday, Allen said the decision to cancel the concert, which he said was made by him and Employment and Training Executive Director Edward Santiago, was based entirely on Sunday's events and not on any of the concerns expressed last week. Santiago could not be reached for comment yesterday. The Employment and Training Program, which had committed around $50,000 to putting on the show, has already spent nearly $20,000 on two $7,500 non-refundable payments to the headlining acts and on advertising costs, according to Allen, who said his company would not have made a profit from the show. The Employment and Training Program is funded by the federal Department of Labor and runs programs to help out-of-work youths earn degrees and receive job training. The agency and the mayor had touted the concert as an opportunity to recruit teenagers and young adults into the program. Free tickets were obtained by filling out forms with a name, address and Social Security number. In addition to the concerns about security, some of those who fought to keep the show from taking place had argued that public money earmarked to help the unemployed should not be used to put on a concert. "I'd prefer to see the money used for summer jobs," Council President L. Harvey Smith said last week, before the show was canceled. The Employment and Training Program earlier this year sent $126,000 to two board of education programs for at-risk youth, nearly $60,000 of which was used to buy tickets to a Patti LaBelle concert at the same theater. Asked about both cases, a spokesman for the state Department of Labor, which disburses the federal grants that the agency received, said the department was looking into the matter. The spokesman, Peter Saharko, said there was no guideline specifically prohibiting money from being spent on a concert but the department's standards dictate that funds be spent only on expenditures that "constitute a necessary and reasonable cost." In his April 14 letter to the president of the Friends of the Loew's Theater, which operates the historic venue, Cunningham said the show had his "full support." "The purpose of this event is to bring several notable musical artists to entertain out-of-school youth so (Employment and Training) can recruit them for the many worthwhile projects it has to offer." Allen said Employment and Training had signed up about 800 youths who had planned to attend the concert. Jason Fink can be reached at jfink@jjournal.com » Send This Page | » Print This Page Copyright 2003 The Jersey Journal. Used with ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens posted Message 511 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2003 at 15:50:38 Subject: Senate Candidate/Council President Charged with Assault SENATORIAL CANDIDATE AND JERSEY CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO APPEAR IN JERSEY CITY COURT ON SUMMIT AVENUE and NewKirk St. AT 9AM TO ANSWER CHARGES OF ASSAULT FILED BY HOUSING AUTHORITY WORKER ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hello Jay ,remember me? posted Message 512 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2003 at 16:49:20 Subject: here we go again........................... Posted by Curious George on April 24, 2003 at 12:42:03: In Reply to: JCPD Complaint file # 2003-00013622-4/23/03-14:45 posted by Jay Stevens on April 24, 2003 at 10:35:23: You have to be kidding. Jay Stevens you seem like an intelligent person.. who is jaded. What is you story? Are they paying you the big bucks, have you a score to settle, what is it? Anyone with a 6th grade education is aware that anyone can file a police report. Filing such report does not give it truth or credibility. A police department must take a complaint if requested. Would you like me site the statures verbatim? “Jay” you will not have to go far to look for lawless behavior…read your own editorials (and I use the term loosely) the lawless actions and schoolyard behavior is in your own. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CG posted Message 513 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2003 at 17:33:39 Subject: Jay Stevens has lost it's mind. You have to be the biggest two-faced, phony, egotistical nut in Jersey City. Let us see if this Patti Labelle scandal makes it in you “paper”. You claim to speak the truth, you claim the truth hurts and you only print the truth…...well let us see what you print next week. Will the UTN cover for the thieves that stole the money in the name of charity….or could it be the thieves are you at the UTN. The Labelle thing has Bobby and Joe written all over it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 514 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2003 at 19:28:10 Subject: NJN Video: Governor McGreevey Endorses HCDO Slate To view the video, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** citizenable posted Message 515 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2003 at 23:41:30 Subject: Re: Group is stiffed $5,000 from benefit concert that cost Jersey City $168G After reading the story about the Patti LaBelle " benefit " concert in today's Jersey Journal, I feel someone should go to jail for misappropriation of Federal Funds, for irresponsible spending of money that was supposed to be raised for the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, and for false and deceitful advertising about who the concert would benefit. Because a large portion of the money involved is Federal money and because it flows through the State Department of Labor, I assume that both the U.S. Attorney for New Jersey and the State Attorney General will be involved in pursuing justice in this case. What an embarassment for the City of Jersey City, Jersey City's Employment & Training Program, and the Jersey City Board of Education. How can the Jersey City Employment & Training Program have money to spend, either directly or indirectly, on things like this ? So sad and such a waste of taxpayer money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thank heaven posted Message 516 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2003 at 23:44:05 Subject: Re: IRap concert canceled fears of violence cited this concert (& I use the term loosely) was cancelled? I am mad that my tax dollars were being spent on an element that would only attract the dregs of society. I am mad that my tax dollars were being used to lure these dregs to jobs that did not exist. I am mad at us, as a society, that has raised a younger generation that is so devoid of morales, ethics, conscience or initiative that they have to be bribed with the promise of free entertainment just to get them to sign-up for a job (even if it doesn't exist). I am, however, happy that there was enough pressure to have stopped this event from taking place at the beautiful old Loew's. My biggest fear was that these people would leave that concert pumped & ready for who knows what & the Square & surrounding neighborhoods would suffer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 517 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 08, 2003 at 18:35:11 Subject: PoliticsNJ: McGreevey stumps for Hudson organization candidates in Dem primary vs. Cunningham McGreevey stumps for Hudson organization candidates in Dem primary vs. Cunningham By STEVE KORNACKI PoliticsNJ.com BAYONNE, May 6 - Facing a stiff intra-party challenge to their organization's muscle, Hudson County Democrats hauled out the biggest political gun in the state tonight in an effort to prevent an embarrassing primary loss. Gov. James E. McGreevey, who is dogged by low approval ratings in much of the state but who remains popular in Hudson, endorsed the Hudson County Democratic Organization's entire legislative ticket at a rally in Mercer Park in Bayonne. But the setting of the rally told the real reason why the governor was there. Located on the Bayonne-Jersey City line, Mercer Park sits in the heart of the 31st legislative district, site of the most contentious Democratic primary in the state. There, Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham is running against Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith for the State Senate. Cunningham is locked in a bitter feud with the HCDO, which is wary of the power Cunningham stands to accrue if he adds a Senate seat to his resume. . . . For the rest of the article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 518 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 08, 2003 at 18:37:40 Subject: PoliticsNJ: Doria faces stiff challenge in Hudson Dem primary Doria faces stiff challenge in Hudson Dem primary By STEVE KORNACKI PoliticsNJ.com May 5 - The race for State Senate between Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham and Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith has been the marquee race this spring in the 31st legislative district. But the district's Democratic primary features an equally intense undercard, with one of the state's most prominent legislators facing an aggressive challenge that may ultimately threaten his political future in his home city. The Assembly race pits incumbent Assemblyman Joseph V. Doria (D-Bayonne), whose 23-year tenure in the Legislature has included stints as Speaker and Assembly Minority and who doubles as the Mayor of Bayonne, and freshman Assemblywoman Elba Perez-Cinciarelli against challengers Bayonne Councilman Anthony Chiappone, a Bayonne councilman, and Louis Manzo, a former Hudson County freeholder and three-time Jersey City mayoral candidate. . . . For the rest of the article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 519 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 08, 2003 at 18:39:35 Subject: PoliticsNJ: Menendez says Cunningham's problem is with 11 Hudson mayors Menendez says Cunningham's problem is with 11 Hudson mayors By STEVE KORNACKI PoliticsNJ.com April 30 - Few political observers would deny that Rep. Robert Menendez (D-Hoboken) is the most powerful elected official in Hudson County. The six-term representative, who is currently the third-ranking Democrat in the House, still wields tremendous influence over the Hudson County Democratic Organization, which practically runs what is an overwhelmingly Democratic county. But with Glenn D. Cunningham, the mayor of the county's largest city and a bitter HCDO foe, making an aggressive bid for state Senate from the 31st district against Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith, some see Menendez as more focused on national politics than what's happening in Hudson County. But while the congressman concedes that the 31st district is "ideally suited" for Cunningham, he insists the race shouldn't be viewed as a contest between the two rival Democrats. . . . For the rest of the article, see the Link ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 520 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2003 at 07:55:38 Subject: Jersey Journal: Smith, accuser pull complaints Smith, accuser pull complaints Handshake and chat keep them out of court Jersey Journal Friday, May 09, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith and the manager of a public housing complex withdrew complaints against one another yesterday in municipal court in connection with a confrontation the two had last month. Darrell Laval, the manager of the Booker T. Washington complex, accused Smith of shoving him and cursing at him on April 23 at the complex, where Smith was campaigning for the state Senate in the 31st District. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 521 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2003 at 08:36:43 Subject: Peter Weiss, Jersey Journal: Will other shoe be used to kick gov? Will other shoe be used to kick gov? Jersey Journal Friday, May 09, 2003 By Peter Weiss With Gov. James E. McGreevey dropping one shoe by endorsing the candidates backed in the primary by the Hudson County Democratic Organization, can we expect the other side to start stomping him? The first signs of that - literally as well as figuratively - may have been placards held up by supporters of the other side at the governor's endorsement appearance in Bayonne on Tuesday. One sign referred to him as "McSleezy" and others criticized proposed state budget cuts. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 522 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2003 at 13:07:41 Subject: Diner Politics Video: Vincent Militello, Candidate for the State Senate Vincent Militello, 31st District Candidate for the State Senate Democrat primary appears on the Diner Politics televsion show. To view the video, click the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 523 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2003 at 08:36:48 Subject: Reporters' Roundtable, NJN Video: Governor McGreevey Endorses the HCDO Slate Michael Aron (et al.) muses on Governor James E. McGreevey's foray (scurry?) into Hudson County. To view the video, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mark posted Message 524 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2003 at 09:35:55 Subject: Tax payers dollars used to defraud charity and the public. STATE ORDERS AUDIT OF CONCERT MONEY Were federal funds spent improperly for LaBelle tickets? Saturday, May 10, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer The state Department of Labor is conducting an audit into the use of federal funds it disbursed that were spent by the Jersey City Board of Education on tickets to a controversial benefit concert held earlier this year. The Jan. 24 Patti LaBelle show, billed as a fund-raiser for the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, has also caught the attention of Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio, who said his office may issue subpoenas for the concert financial records. Information from our Advertisers As first reported in The Jersey Journal, the autonomous Jersey City Employment and Training Program, which is funded by the state with money allocated by the federal Department of Labor, wrote a check for $126,000 to the Board of Education, which then used $58,820 of that money to buy 692 tickets to the Patti LaBelle show the day before the concert. The show, which contributed $5,000 to the Diabetes Foundation out of the $169,405 it raised - roughly 3 percent - was sponsored by a joint entity made up of programs within the Housing Authority and the Board of Education. Peter Saharko, a spokesman for the state Department of Labor, said the state is auditing the use of the federal funds. "We are auditing the expenses," he said. Saharko said the department is trying to determine whether the expenditure met the standard of a "necessary and reasonable cost" that the state applies to the use of the federal funds, which are earmarked for youth services. Three school board members - Chairman William DeRosa, former Mayor Anthony Cucci and Terrence Curran - objected to buying the tickets, as well as to the fact that they weren't asked to vote on the expenditure until a month after the show. The executive director of the Employment and Training Program, Edward Santiago, could not be reached for comment yesterday. He said last week that his organization allocated the money to the Board of Education and that the board decided on its own to buy the tickets. Patti LaBelle's representatives have not responded to requests for comment. The concert's organizer, Arthur Williams, is the chairman of the board of the Housing Authority and the supervisor of two programs - Fifteen Together and the PACE Parent Advisory - that were co-sponsors of the event. Saharko said that if an audit found the funds to have been improperly spent, the state would ask that the money be paid back. If such a request were made and the money was not paid back, he said, further funding could be cut off. Also seeking information about the concert is investment firm Goldman Sachs, which donated $3,250 to the JDRF with the intention of buying tickets for 50 senior citizens. The check that Goldman Sachs wrote was made out to the Diabetes Foundation and sent to the concert's sponsor - a joint entity called "Jersey City Housing Authority/Tenant Affairs Board/"fifteen together"/PACE Parent Advisory" - but it was deposited into the account of the joint entity, which Williams has called a "clerical error." On Tuesday, a volunteer for the JDRF who works for the Board of Education delivered a check for $5,000 to an official from the charity, which Williams said Tuesday included the Goldman Sachs donation. But the fact that the Goldman Sachs check was deposited in the joint entity's account and, according to Williams, endorsed with the name of the joint entity, has raised questions. "We're in the process of trying to get information on the finances and accounts right now," said DeFazio. DeFazio said his office is focusing now on the deposit of the check into the joint entity's account. Williams has declined to provide the name of the bank with which the joint entity had its account and which accepted the Goldman Sachs check made out to the Diabetes Foundation. A spokesman for the charity, Bill Ahern, said his organization is trying to find out if any other individuals or corporations wrote checks to the JDRF that ended up in that account. Williams could not be reached yesterday for comment. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 525 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2003 at 10:14:43 Subject: Nightmare Alley A dark and depressing tale of a cheap huckster who starts off with a carnival sideshow. The confidence artist goes on to claim to be a spiritual leader. When one and all realize the truly shabby and tawdry nature of his scheme, the only recourse left for the false prophet is returning to the freak show and begging forgiveness. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get nj.com should be known as the urban times .com posted Message 526 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2003 at 10:51:58 Subject: Anthony you have become ........... Brett alomg with others are not at all happy with your new bed-fellows! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens posted Message 527 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2003 at 11:24:55 Subject: Re: Anthony you have become ........... : Brett alomg with others are not at all happy with your new bed-fellows! We are glad that you are excited over the coming attractions to be featured at the Loew's, our own Movie Palace on Journal Square. Tell your friends. Don't miss it! The full cast of this epic will feature the entire membership of the Hudson County Democratic Organization. A Donald Scarinci Production, featuring guest appearances by Steven Seagal, Gary Busey, Angelo Prisco, and many others. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens posted Message 528 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2003 at 11:34:52 Subject: Re: Anthony you have become ........... : : Brett alomg with others are not at all happy with your new bed-fellows! : We are glad that you are excited over the coming attractions to be featured at the Loew's, our own Movie Palace on Journal Square. BE SURE TO SEE NIGHTMARE ALLEY--NOW PLAYING--LIMITED ENGAGEMENT--LAST 3 WEEKS!!! Tell your friends. Don't miss it! : The full cast of this epic will feature the entire membership of the Hudson County Democratic Organization. A Donald Scarinci Production, featuring guest appearances by Steven Seagal, Gary Busey, Angelo Prisco, and many others. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Trurh Hurts and hurts and hurts and hurts and................... posted Message 529 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2003 at 11:45:31 Subject: Re: Anthony you have become ........... The Lowes.......as Patti Labelle , Bobby Jackson, the missing 55,000.00 ahhh yes the Lowes! ***************** End Of Article ****************** It will set you free! posted Message 530 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2003 at 11:47:43 Subject: Re: Anthony you have become ........... : : The Lowes.......as Patti Labelle , Bobby Jackson, the missing 55,000.00 ahhh yes the Lowes! And btw Jay Stevens that is how you spell TRUTH UTN style! Get spell check for the UTN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Da' truth. posted Message 531 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2003 at 12:22:48 Subject: Jay Stevens meets its match! D'oh! Is there anything Jay Stevens can't do? Even a simple picture turns into a near nuclear meltdown for his bank account when Jay's attempt at the good life goes up in smoke. Now share the irreverent humor of Jersey City most famous toe biting resident in "Kiss da' boyz butt" As Jay stares with disbelief at its own rotten luck , you can almost hear it exclaim, "D'OH!" ....Presented exclusively from its biggest nightmare. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 532 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2003 at 12:04:47 Subject: Michael Aron, On the Record: 31st District State Senate Democrat Primary Candidates Michael Aron speaks with the Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham, Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith, and former Assistant Hudson County Prosecutor Vincent Militello concerning the 31st District State Senate Democrat Primary. To hear the complete audio, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 533 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2003 at 12:52:13 Subject: First Do No Harm Political campaigns, as they do with everything else, throw a spin on the guiding principle of the Hippocratic Oath: first do no harm. Here, candidates and their handlers are not concerned with the public good; what politicians have in mind is their own success – or the consequent subsequent lack thereof. By that yardstick (as there was no loser), we have three winners in this discussion. Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith seemed relaxed and confidant. The Council President's opponents charge him with being unable to speak coherently. They won't find any ammunition in this broadcast. He was articulate in communicating his accomplishments. He portrayed himself as a longstanding independent voice who, at the same time, is able to work within a political environment. Councilman Smith clearly stated his position that Mayor Glenn Cunningham stands isolated. Initially, Glenn Cunningham seemed a bit nervous. He quickly got into gear appearing sure of himself, yet not agressive or egotistical, as his opponents need to prove. He parried the charge that he's isolated himself by contending that he alone has stood up for Jersey City against outside interests. He managed the sole memorable sound bite of the night, quipping that the outsiders were asleep at the wheel and calling up the image of a derailed light rail car. He frequently brought up his career as a Federal Marshall and a police officer. He mentioned his success in maintaining order and offering assistance to New York City in the days following 9/11. (Strangely enough, I don't think that he mentioned his service as a Marine.) Vincent Militello, like Bayonne's Chuck Wepner of boxing fame, had only to go the distance. He accomplished that with ease. He clearly outlined that he was running to offer the public service, not to boost any faction or political machine. And he doesn't see the Bayonne-Jersey City border as any sort of wall in this marathon. As a former Assistant Hudson County Prosecutor, Vincent Militello pointed out that he alone among the candidates. As former(?) gubernatorial candidate Bret Schundler started his political odyssey with close shot at the State Senate, one can't help but wonder for what target Vincent Militello is using this race as a tracer bullet. : Michael Aron speaks with the Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham, Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith, and former Assistant Hudson County Prosecutor Vincent Militello concerning the 31st District State Senate Democrat Primary. : To hear the complete audio, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 534 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2003 at 08:39:11 Subject: High Noon At Journal Square And Tommny Smith only had to get in the ring with Muhammad Ali! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 535 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2003 at 08:45:15 Subject: IT'S THE BOGEYMEN!!! Protecting the rest of Hudson County from the half-man, half-beast bogeymen of Jersey City... ***************** End Of Article ****************** gregbaumgarten posted Message 536 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2003 at 09:23:37 Subject: Re: First Do No Harm : Political campaigns – as they do with everything else – throw a spin on the guiding principle of the Hippocratic Oath: first do no harm. Here, candidates and their handlers are not concerned with the public good. What politicians have in mind is their own success – or the consequent subsequent lack thereof. : By that yardstick (as there was no loser), we have three winners in this discussion. : Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith seemed relaxed and confidant. The Council President's opponents charge him with being unable to speak coherently. They won't find any ammunition in this broadcast. He was articulate in communicating his accomplishments. He portrayed himself as a longstanding independent voice who, at the same time, is able to work within a political environment. Councilman Smith clearly stated his position that Mayor Glenn Cunningham stands isolated. : : Initially, Glenn Cunningham seemed a bit nervous. He quickly got into gear appearing sure of himself, yet not agressive or egotistical, as his opponents need to prove. He parried the charge that he's isolated himself by contending that he alone has stood up for Jersey City against outside interests. He managed the sole memorable sound bite of the night, quipping that the outsiders were asleep at the wheel and calling up the image of a derailed light rail car. He frequently brought up his career as a Federal Marshall and a police officer. He mentioned his success in maintaining order and offering assistance to New York City in the days following 9/11. (Strangely enough, I don't think that he mentioned his service as a Marine.) : Vincent Militello, like Bayonne's Chuck Wepner of boxing fame, had only to go the distance. He accomplished that with ease. He clearly outlined that he was running to offer the public service, not to boost any faction or political machine. And he doesn't see the Bayonne-Jersey City border as any sort of wall in this marathon. As a former Assistant Hudson County Prosecutor, Vincent Militello pointed out that he alone among the candidates. As former(?) gubernatorial candidate Bret Schundler started his political odyssey with close shot at the State Senate, one can't help but wonder for what target Vincent Militello is using this race as a tracer bullet. Glenn was stiff as a board. He was all me, me me.Harvey was at least relaxed and friendly. As usual Glenn took a cheap shot by bringing up Harvey's son. The up side for Glenn was he didn't get as embarrassed as much as he did in the mayoral debates against Degise. : : : Michael Aron speaks with the Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham, Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith, and former Assistant Hudson County Prosecutor Vincent Militello concerning the 31st District State Senate Democrat Primary. : : To hear the complete audio, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 537 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2003 at 18:48:30 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 538 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2003 at 18:55:11 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 539 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2003 at 18:59:58 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 540 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2003 at 19:03:37 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 541 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2003 at 08:43:08 Subject: Police Director Flyer The flyer reproduced here was posted on every street pole across from the North Precinct on Central Avenue. Perhaps the broadside also appears elsewhere. I've a large number of questions, but no answers. Is it a coincidence that the HCDO posters were posted around the same time? If the timing was intentional, was it in concert with the HCDO? Or is it a separate entitity trying to use a time of turmoil as "high ground" for an attack? Is it a single person (a malcontent as Mafia associates might say) or a group? What are they trying to accomplish? Do they want to show the citiznery that the Police Department is at odds with the Director? If this is the case, a tree was killed for naught. I'd bet that you can count on a rosary the number of residents that know who the Director is. Is somebody (or bodies) trying to drive a wedge between the Police Department and Glenn Cunningham? One thing is for sure: a better honed set of layout and writing skills were used a few years back in the anti-Schundler flyers. Now, does that indicate a different publisher or a lack of practice? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vincent Militello for State Senate posted Message 542 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2003 at 19:18:32 Subject: Democrat Militello Out Raises Opponents Democrat Militello Out Raises Opponents ***************** End Of Article ****************** hh posted Message 543 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2003 at 19:42:04 Subject: Re: Anthony you have become ........... : : : : The Lowes.......as Patti Labelle , Bobby Jackson, the missing 55,000.00 ahhh yes the Lowes! : And btw Jay Stevens that is how you spell TRUTH UTN style! Get spell check for the UTN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** What was that quote from Jay Stevens..something about curruption ,.................................................. posted Message 544 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2003 at 23:18:06 Subject: Moving Lips PoliticsNJ.com - New Jersey's Online Political Network -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tuesday, May 13, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moving lips It's a corny old joke: How do you know BOBBY JACKSON isn't telling the truth? His lips are moving. The sad thing is it's true. Jackson has been a controversial and often disruptive fixture in Jersey City politics for years. He has served as City Council President and as the city's Democratic Municipal Chairman. In a county where people take their politics seriously, few personalities seem to generate as much intensity as discussion of Jackson. Hudson County political observers from the two major factions of the Democratic Party say that Jackson is the one who has created a civil war-like atmosphere in Jersey City. Jackson, many say, is among the most responsible for driving a wedge between Jersey City Mayor GLENN CUNNINGHAM and the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Jackson seems to have a sort-of svengali effect on the Mayor, who is taking heat for the quality of the company he has chosen to keep. Jackson's latest scam is the Urban Times News, a pseudo-weekly Jersey City-based newspaper that appears to be nothing more than a communications product for the Cunningham administration. The editor is JOSEPH CARDWELL, a Cunningham advisor and Chief of Staff to former Hudson County Executive BERNARD HARTNETT, and the name of Deputy Mayor EUGENE DRAYTON had appeared on the masthead until Jersey Journal political reporter PETER WEISS wrote a story about it. Local political players say that the Urban Times News receives advertising monies from the Jersey City municipal government. The Cardwell publication has an extreme pro-Cunningham bent, and has vilified many Cunningham foes. The favorable treatment Jackson has received appears to have resulted in some lucrative advertising deals. Among the Urban Times News' advertisers are the Jersey City Incinerator Authority, the Jersey City Department of Public Works, the Jersey City Public Library, the Jersey City Housing Authority, the Jersey City Development Corporation, and the Jersey City Economic Development Corporation. Lately, the newspaper has been throwing some fairly astonishing punches at L. HARVEY SMITH, the City Council President who is challenging Cunningham in the Democratic primary for State Senator in the 31st district. Smith has led the fight to ban the city from using municipal revenues to advertise in this publication: the Jersey Journal estimated recently that the city spent about $71,000 on Urban Times News advertising in 2002. The Jersey City Board of Education has already pulled their advertising from the paper, and Smith has pushed the autonomous Office of Employment and Training away from advertising as well. For a brief time, the Urban Times News used the logo of the New Jersey Press Association on its masthead, even though it was not a member. This logo was pulled after the association's attorneys contacted the newspaper. One Jersey City resident recently asked the U.S. Attorney to investigate the use of tax dollars spent on Jackson's publication, alleging that the address listed for the Urban Times News on its masthead, 529 Bergen Avenue in Jersey City, is actually a grocery store that accepts mail on their behalf. A recent Cunningham campaign mailing used 529 Bergen Avenue as a return address. The General Manager of the newspaper is MARTIN JACKSON, the son of Bobby Jackson. Martin Jackson's day job is as a staffer to Cunningham, where he runs websites for the city. The domain name urbantimesnews.com is registered to Martin Jackson at the Miller Branch of the Jersey City Public Library. ALEXANDER BOOTH, the Jersey City Corporation Counsel that Cunningham wants to fire, alleged that Jackson sought support for a illegal no-bid contract for purchasing eighty photocopiers for the city from a campaign donor. "Based upon my own observations, I had concluded that the mayor's closest advisers were using their relationship with him solely for the purpose of personal financial gain," Booth states in the court documents. "I believe this was putting the reputation and viability of the administration in jeopardy." Jackson has denied Booth's charges. Jackson sought to secure a piece of the Journal Square development project several years ago. He and Cardwell wanted $130,000 contract to create and operate a minority contracting oversight system for the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency. After Governor JAMES E. MCGREEVEY took office in 2002, Jackson unsuccessfully sought party support for an appointment to the state Athletic Control Board. Some Democrats allege that under Jackson's stewardship, the Jersey City Democratic Committee, did not file any campaign finance reports with the New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission from January, 2002 through June, 2002, when he was replaced as chairman. Despite not filing any ELEC reports, Jackson and Cunningham continued to raise and expend during that time -- and there have been reports that some of those checks subsequently bounced. Jackson also heads the "Reform Democratic Organization," which never registered or filed with ELEC, but which took out paid advertisements in newspapers and which served as the banner under which Cunningham's county executive nominee ran during the 2002 primary. Jackson's closest political ally is GERALD MCCANN, a former Mayor of Jersey City who was removed from office following a federal criminal conviction in 1992. McCann, now out of prison, has re-emerged on the political scene as a member of Cunningham's inner circle. When McCann served as Hudson County Democratic Chairman more than a decade ago, Jackson, the Jersey City Democratic leader, was his local political lieutenant. Jackson returned as party chairman after Cunningham won in 2001, but was unseated a year later when their candidate for County Executive, Hartnett, got swamped by the organization candidate, former Jersey City Council President and Cunningham mayoral rival THOMAS DEGISE. He was replaced by City Councilman WILLIAM GAUGHAN, who is now the Chief of Staff to DeGise. Jackson didn't even show up for the vote, after losing a large number of County Committee seats in the election. During the 1985 general election, when Republican Governor THOMAS KEAN carried Jersey City, there were allegations that Jackson and McCann worked to suppress voter turnout among African Americans. He also has ties to former Hudson County Executive ROBERT JANISZEWSI, who abruptly resigned his office in mid-2001 and later admitted to taking over $100,000 in bribes during his thirteen years in office; Janiszewski, cooperating with federal prosecutors as he awaits sentencing, is reportedly in a witness protection program. But Jackson wasn't always a Cunningham fan: just before the 1989 mayoral runoff, when Cunningham and McCann were rivals, Jackson told the Jersey Journal that Cunningham is "basically the way he started. He's still very insecure, petty and childish." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 545 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2003 at 11:09:26 Subject: Peter Weis, Jersey Journal: Senate hopefuls mix it up Senate hopefuls mix it up Jersey Journal Wednesday, May 14, 2003 Peter Weiss It was Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, a career lawman, and City Council President L. Harvey Smith, a career educator, arguing over who has the better experience to become a state senator. Meanwhile, Bayonne attorney Vincent Militello contended that neither of his two opponents has the time. That was the gist of the first, and perhaps only, joint appearance by the three candidates for the Democratic nomination for Senate in the 31st District. They were on NJN's "On the Record." ... For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bayonne Civic Advocate posted Message 546 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 15, 2003 at 11:07:59 Subject: Negative Ad Campaigning- the Public Deserves Better To all "Get NJ.Com" readers, on behalf of Melba Walsh candidate for County Executive, and myself, Councilman Tony Chiappone, candidate for State Assembly, I am posting a page from our newsletter, the Bayonne Civic Advocate. We've been forced to produce our own newspaper in Bayonne as a result of the Bayonne Community New's decision to not accept personal ads and press releases from us (and they call themselves the "Community News". Anyway, we are running with the Column B Democrats along with Glenn Cunningham for Senate, Lou Manzo for Assembly, and Willie Flood for County Clerk. It's an interesting primary in that for the first time in many years, Democratic voter will have a choice in candidates. I can tell you, as an elected official, and a candidate, one of the things that disturbs me most about politics in the necessity for some to attempt making themselves look good by making their opponents look bad. I am of course, referring to negative ad campaigning, and the following article was written with those thoughts in mind. Before I move on to the article, I would invite anyone who wishes to speak with me personally to call me at 201-437-3242 or to email me at achiappone@yahoo.com if you'd like to drop me a line. I thank the host of this website for allowing me the opportunity to post our articles here for you to read. Thanks again. - Tony :) “When the Going Gets Tough, the Weak Get Nasty!”... This was the comment made by Councilman Tony Chiappone in last year’s election when a negative flyer distributed by Team Doria resulted in a huge backlash from the public and backfired. Simply put, stated Chiappone, “The people of Bayonne don’t like mudslinging personal attacks. As in every election, I would hope that all candidates would stick to the issues and conduct themselves with dignity and respect for his or her opponent.” Recent polls done by both Cunningham and Doria camps show Glenn Cunningham ahead of Smith by a wide and comfortable margin in both Jersey City and Bayonne. Obviously, by the look of mailed literature sent to the homes of Bayonne voters, Doria, DeGise, and Smith have decided to use negative mudslinging tactics in an attempt to tear Glenn Cunningham down.” The most recent pieces of attack literature, labeled “When Prisoners Escape, Our Families Are At Risk” attempt to scare the public and blame Glenn Cunningham for attempted breakouts by prisoners in “his” jail. Of course, Glenn Cunningham never owned or even ran the the Hudson County Jail, but because he was a Public Safety Director for Hudson County the ad takes liberty at making a direct connection between him and the contraband found on the prisoners (there’s not a jail other than this one in which prisoners had contraband!) and attempted prisoners escape (hey, that has never happened before in the annals of American prisons!). In any case, take a look at the prisoner in the photo on the left. He or she (with the name “Prisoner” superimposed over the back of his or her shirt) has just blown a huge hole through the prison wall. Now the ad attempts to make you think he or she is climbing the fence to not only to escape, but rather to then attack the kids in the playground. In an inset, a blowtorch, saw, hammer and other tools are shown. Obviously, though equipped with such an arsenal, the “prisoner” doesn’t have a pair of simple wire cutters. In any case, it really doesn’t look as if the person is serious about escaping. In fact, it looks as if he or she is just enjoying the ballgame on the other side of the fence! Finally, the ad doesn’t really tell you who it’s from. In the return address, it says it’s from the Hudson County Democratic Organization. But do people know when they get it that it’s being sent out by Doria, DeGise, Smith and their team? It’s like they are shoveling dirt but don’t want you to know they are holding the shovel! In a way it’s easy to laugh at flyers and mailouts that are so patently ridiculous as to warrant a quick deposit in the trash can. Negative personal ads such as the “Chiappone Mailout” attack leveled by Doria last year (shown in the flyer on the left) are not as easy to brush off. Yes candidates should expect to be attacked and called to task on the issues. But in doing so, let’s not distort the truth. And let’s not get attacking to the point of maliciously dragging into and hurting the families of candidates. As Democrats we have to come together after the primary. Before we get there, let’s treat each other with the respect and dignity we deserve as candidates, and our residents deserve as voters. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Militello for State Senate posted Message 547 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 15, 2003 at 12:34:15 Subject: Militello: Property Taxes Out of Control Militello: Property Taxes Out of Control ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens posted Message 548 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 15, 2003 at 12:36:56 Subject: Uncle Harvey Rises Dramatically in Poles UNCLE HARVEY RISES DRAMATICALLY IN POLES Jay Stevens email: jstevens@urbantimesnews.com …FROM “INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP” Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith, aka Uncle Harvey, has recently risen dramatically in the poles according to his own press releases. We believe him. Even if the statement is self-serving, that does not mean that it isn’t true. And we are glad because they could only have gone up. We are not sure if it is possible to have a negative name recognition factor. That would make Harvey the equivalent of a black hole in marketing. Of course Harvey is hoping that we would take that to mean opinion polls. What he really means is utility poles. He has risen sharply. That is mostly due to his recent hiring of very tall campaign workers, particularly Arnold Williams. Because of his great height and reach, Williams is able to affix campaign literature to the poles much higher from the ground than they had been. Williams single-handedly accounts for the reason Harvey has risen so sharply in the poles or on the polls. ***************** End Of Article ****************** B.J. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? posted Message 549 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 15, 2003 at 23:56:32 Subject: Re: Moving Lips : PoliticsNJ.com - New Jersey's Online Political Network : : : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : : Tuesday, May 13, 2003 : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : : Moving lips : : It's a corny old joke: How do you know BOBBY JACKSON isn't telling the truth? His lips are moving. : : The sad thing is it's true. Jackson has been a controversial and often disruptive fixture in Jersey City politics for years. He has served as City Council President and as the city's Democratic Municipal Chairman. In a county where people take their politics seriously, few personalities seem to generate as much intensity as discussion of Jackson. : : Hudson County political observers from the two major factions of the Democratic Party say that Jackson is the one who has created a civil war-like atmosphere in Jersey City. Jackson, many say, is among the most responsible for driving a wedge between Jersey City Mayor GLENN CUNNINGHAM and the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Jackson seems to have a sort-of svengali effect on the Mayor, who is taking heat for the quality of the company he has chosen to keep. : : Jackson's latest scam is the Urban Times News, a pseudo-weekly Jersey City-based newspaper that appears to be nothing more than a communications product for the Cunningham administration. The editor is JOSEPH CARDWELL, a Cunningham advisor and Chief of Staff to former Hudson County Executive BERNARD HARTNETT, and the name of Deputy Mayor EUGENE DRAYTON had appeared on the masthead until Jersey Journal political reporter PETER WEISS wrote a story about it. Local political players say that the Urban Times News receives advertising monies from the Jersey City municipal government. The Cardwell publication has an extreme pro-Cunningham bent, and has vilified many Cunningham foes. : : The favorable treatment Jackson has received appears to have resulted in some lucrative advertising deals. Among the Urban Times News' advertisers are the Jersey City Incinerator Authority, the Jersey City Department of Public Works, the Jersey City Public Library, the Jersey City Housing Authority, the Jersey City Development Corporation, and the Jersey City Economic Development Corporation. : : Lately, the newspaper has been throwing some fairly astonishing punches at L. HARVEY SMITH, the City Council President who is challenging Cunningham in the Democratic primary for State Senator in the 31st district. Smith has led the fight to ban the city from using municipal revenues to advertise in this publication: the Jersey Journal estimated recently that the city spent about $71,000 on Urban Times News advertising in 2002. The Jersey City Board of Education has already pulled their advertising from the paper, and Smith has pushed the autonomous Office of Employment and Training away from advertising as well. : : For a brief time, the Urban Times News used the logo of the New Jersey Press Association on its masthead, even though it was not a member. This logo was pulled after the association's attorneys contacted the newspaper. : : One Jersey City resident recently asked the U.S. Attorney to investigate the use of tax dollars spent on Jackson's publication, alleging that the address listed for the Urban Times News on its masthead, 529 Bergen Avenue in Jersey City, is actually a grocery store that accepts mail on their behalf. A recent Cunningham campaign mailing used 529 Bergen Avenue as a return address. : : The General Manager of the newspaper is MARTIN JACKSON, the son of Bobby Jackson. Martin Jackson's day job is as a staffer to Cunningham, where he runs websites for the city. The domain name urbantimesnews.com is registered to Martin Jackson at the Miller Branch of the Jersey City Public Library. : : ALEXANDER BOOTH, the Jersey City Corporation Counsel that Cunningham wants to fire, alleged that Jackson sought support for a illegal no-bid contract for purchasing eighty photocopiers for the city from a campaign donor. "Based upon my own observations, I had concluded that the mayor's closest advisers were using their relationship with him solely for the purpose of personal financial gain," Booth states in the court documents. "I believe this was putting the reputation and viability of the administration in jeopardy." Jackson has denied Booth's charges. : : Jackson sought to secure a piece of the Journal Square development project several years ago. He and Cardwell wanted $130,000 contract to create and operate a minority contracting oversight system for the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency. After Governor JAMES E. MCGREEVEY took office in 2002, Jackson unsuccessfully sought party support for an appointment to the state Athletic Control Board. : : Some Democrats allege that under Jackson's stewardship, the Jersey City Democratic Committee, did not file any campaign finance reports with the New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission from January, 2002 through June, 2002, when he was replaced as chairman. Despite not filing any ELEC reports, Jackson and Cunningham continued to raise and expend during that time -- and there have been reports that some of those checks subsequently bounced. Jackson also heads the "Reform Democratic Organization," which never registered or filed with ELEC, but which took out paid advertisements in newspapers and which served as the banner under which Cunningham's county executive nominee ran during the 2002 primary. : Jackson's closest political ally is GERALD MCCANN, a former Mayor of Jersey City who was removed from office following a federal criminal conviction in 1992. McCann, now out of prison, has re-emerged on the political scene as a member of Cunningham's inner circle. When McCann served as Hudson County Democratic Chairman more than a decade ago, Jackson, the Jersey City Democratic leader, was his local political lieutenant. Jackson returned as party chairman after Cunningham won in 2001, but was unseated a year later when their candidate for County Executive, Hartnett, got swamped by the organization candidate, former Jersey City Council President and Cunningham mayoral rival THOMAS DEGISE. He was replaced by City Councilman WILLIAM GAUGHAN, who is now the Chief of Staff to DeGise. Jackson didn't even show up for the vote, after losing a large number of County Committee seats in the election. : : During the 1985 general election, when Republican Governor THOMAS KEAN carried Jersey City, there were allegations that Jackson and McCann worked to suppress voter turnout among African Americans. : : He also has ties to former Hudson County Executive ROBERT JANISZEWSI, who abruptly resigned his office in mid-2001 and later admitted to taking over $100,000 in bribes during his thirteen years in office; Janiszewski, cooperating with federal prosecutors as he awaits sentencing, is reportedly in a witness protection program. : : But Jackson wasn't always a Cunningham fan: just before the 1989 mayoral runoff, when Cunningham and McCann were rivals, Jackson told the Jersey Journal that Cunningham is "basically the way he started. He's still very insecure, petty and childish." : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vincent Militello for State Senate posted Message 550 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 17, 2003 at 11:14:20 Subject: Job Creation is a Centerpiece for Militello Job Creation is a Centerpiece for Militello ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 551 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2003 at 12:22:09 Subject: Diner Politics, Laura Jones Interviews 31st District State Senate Candidates On Diner Politics, Laura Jones interviews the 3 candidates in the Democrat primary for the State Senate in the 31st District: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vincent Militello for State Senate posted Message 552 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2003 at 07:40:33 Subject: Militello: It’s About Our Economy and Our Children Militello: It’s About Our Economy and Our Children ***************** End Of Article ****************** Putin posted Message 553 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2003 at 15:04:33 Subject: King's Big Banner I was heading to the skyway and going through the Square up Kennedy Boulevard. I didn't see Jimmy King's big sign out front across from the church there. Does he just put it up over the weekends or did an accident happen? Or maybe he wants to keep out of the spotlight for a while? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN posted Message 554 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2003 at 19:16:31 Subject: UNCLE HARVEY'S FUGAZY FINANCE UNCLE HARVEY CAMPAIGN FINANCE RAISES QUESTIONS—MANY WAYS TO SKIN A KITTY Steven Glazer email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com Jersey City—The State of New Jersey provides easy access to campaign finance reports to anyone with a computer, Internet access and a desire to see how things work. A quick review of campaign finance reports filed by candidate L. Harvey Smith raises more than few questions about the propriety of some of the dealings reflected. The candidate uses no less than three different names in the filings making it difficult to understand to whom the entries refer. One particularly puzzling entry is dated April 13, 2002. Check 301 in the list of disbursements incurred by the campaign, in the amount of $2,827.23 is meticulously recorded as paid to Leonard Smith. Unlike every other check written on the list of 63 checks recorded, this one does not specify a purpose. Every other check of the 63 listed specifies a purpose for the use of the funds. Smith could not be reached for comment. Every other check written in the numerous filings, of which this report dated June 6, 2001, is just one, is clearly marked with a purpose for the use of funds. There are nine other reports with hundreds of disbursements, yet this is the only exception lacking a clearly stated purpose. It is equally unclear who Leonard Smith is. L. Harvey Smith is the preferred name of Leonard Harvey Smith, better known as Uncle Harvey, Jersey City Council President. This is the only instance in which Smith refers to himself as Leonard Smith, if indeed that is himself. In person, Smith refers to himself and answers to Harvey. Variously, Smith gives his name as Harvey Smith, L. Harvey Smith, Leonard Harvey Smith, and Leonard H. Smith. The printed name on this same report is Leonard H. Smith, yet the signature very legibly is that of L. Harvey Smith, raising the question, “Who is Leonard Smith, and why is he receiving a check for $2,827.23 from campaign funds with no purpose specified? Elsewhere in the same report, for the same period, filed more than 15 months late, the name L. Harvey Smith appears as recipient of check 340 for $1889.73 with the clear notation “expense.” There are any number of disbursement entries referring to L. Harvey Smith, like check 403 of March 16, 2002 in the amount of 2,035.00 made to the order of L. Harvey Smith. That check made to L. Harvey Smith appears on the campaign finance report received by New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission on April 19, 2002. This check made to the order of L. Harvey Smith for $2,035.00 is for the curious purpose of “Fund raising,” though it decreases and does not increase the balance of the campaign fund. There are also multiple withdrawals of cash from an ATM machine giving at least the appearance that Harvey was using the campaign fund as personal pocket money. Another item raising questions was check 223 written on January 6, 2001, payable to the order of “Friends of Harvey L. Smith” with the notation “Donation.” Check 223 was for the amount of $1,200.00. Clearly, it seems this was a transfer between the accounts of two different campaign organizations, yet it bears the legend “Donation,” raising still more questions. There are many other such puzzling entries but without comment from Smith, it is impossible to understand the financial juggling. Some entries, however are crystal clear. One in particular jumps out at the viewer, being that of Harvey Shapiro. Shapiro’s check number 102 drawn on the account of Piermont Court Inc., no doubt a corporation owned or controlled by the developer, was dated June 1, 1998 and made payable to the order of Friends of Harvey Smith in the amount of $250.00. Smith was head of the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency at the time of the donation and Shapiro was redeveloping a property known now as Whitlock Cordage. An extensive search of campaign finance reports failed to discover any other campaign contributions by the developer to any other city official. Smith is well within his rights to accept contributions from supporters though they may give the appearance of screaming conflicts. But Smith may be guilty of incredibly poor judgment to accept money from a developer who needed Smith’s cooperation to go forward with his development project. Shapiro became a name that causes city officials to recoil in horror until this day at the shenanigans associated with his name. Mostly, Shapiro left the city holding the bag for millions of dollars and could not possibly have done the things he got away with, without the active cooperation and support of council members and others. Another aspect of Smith’s finance is how he has managed to maintain an office on Monticello Avenue with no record of disbursements for rent for that office. The office is in a building owned by a developer Orlando Bru. That question will also remain unanswered as Smith is not available to discuss the matter. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN posted Message 555 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2003 at 19:23:24 Subject: ONE HAND CLAPPING-LET'S HEAR IT FOR HARVEY! THE SOUND OF ONE HAND CLAPPING That would be the sound and fury of the so-called debate proposed by Uncle Harvey and running mate Fat Joe Doria, and to be hosted by the Bayonne NAACP. Greg Roberts is the head of the Bayonne Chapter of the NAACP, and also happens to be head of the Planning Board. Talk about no-brainers! Both of these guys are no-brainers. All of these guys are no-brainers. We would like to know how to have a debate with one candidate. They wanted to have a debate, only they were not going to invite anybody else! Would you pay to see a boxing match with just one fighter? What about a debate with only one candidate? Not interested? We did not think that you would be. What fun would that be? It would be the sound of one hand clapping, something that Uncle Harvey and Fat Joe should get accustomed to. What a horrible thought we just had. What if they lost? Who would they blame? Who would they accuse of foul play? Word got back to the “other candidate,” Glenn Cunningham. Remember him? He is the Mayor of Jersey City. Cunningham, understandably perplexed, called the Bayonne NAACP and asked how they proposed to have a one-sided debate. Cunningham asked why he was not invited. NAACP representatives told Cunningham graciously that if he wanted to, he could come. Cunningham said thanks, but no thanks, he would not come as he was not invited. Cunningham did also say that he would call the National office of the NAACP and speak to National Chairman Kweisi Mfume just to let him know what the Bayonne chapter was planning. Cunningham has a very close relationship with the National Leadership. Needless to say, the “debate,” was canceled. With that, there was a round of applause, but nobody could hear it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harold BUD Schmidt Sr. posted Message 556 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2003 at 23:06:35 Subject: National Maritime Day May 22,2003 I was wondering why your governor didn't issue a Proclamation designating May 22nd as Matitime Day in New Jersey as yet ? After all so many merchant ships were sunk right off the coast of New Jersey. with the loss of so many men that one would think that it was something that would automaticlly be done every year. I urge all your citizens to look through these web sites where they might collect a good piece of history. http://my.tenforward.com/bud/ http://www.homestead.com/usmerchantmarinevets/ http://www.geocities.com/bud_98382/ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 557 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 21, 2003 at 10:09:09 Subject: Hudson Senate race in Olivieri's court Hudson Senate race in Olivieri's court By STEVE KORNACKI PoliticsNJ.com JERSEY CITY, May 15 - What happened --or didn't -- before Hudson County Superior Court Judge Thomas P. Olivieri Wednesday has emerged as a key issue in the state's most closely watched Democratic primary. At issue is a suit filed by the HCDO against the Jersey City Reform Democratic Organization (JCRDO) and Jersey City First (JCF), two political action committees loyal to Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. The legal battle is a continuation of the political struggle between Cunningham and his former ally, the Hudson County Democratic Organization (HCDO). . . . For the rest of the article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 558 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 21, 2003 at 10:10:34 Subject: Ex-prosecutor mounts uphill fight for Hudson County Senate seat Ex-prosecutor mounts uphill fight for Hudson County Senate seat By STEVE KORNACKI PoliticsNJ.com BAYONNE, May 20 - At the turn of the last century, according to legend, a man named John Henry notched a triumph for mankind when he bested a steam drill in a race. But he expended so much energy that he collapsed and died as soon as he reached the finish line. Set at the dawn of the industrial revolution, the story is said to symbolize man's last victory over machine. But now, 100 years later, a former Hudson County assistant prosecutor thinks he can beat two machines -- and emerge from the contest not only with his life intact, but also with a bright future. Vincent Militello, a former Marine who stepped down as an assistant county prosecutor two years ago, is seeking the Democratic nomination for state Senate in the 31st district. His opponents, Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham and Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith, both enjoy significant organizational support and are running full slates in the June 3 primary. . . . For the rest of the article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GregBaumgarten posted Message 559 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 21, 2003 at 16:32:15 Subject: Re: ONE HAND CLAPPING-LET'S HEAR IT FOR HARVEY! : THE SOUND OF ONE HAND CLAPPING Is this the same Glenn Cunningham who ducked debating Tom DeGise during the mayoral race? I watched Tom debate an empty chair at the Casino In the Park.The chair did better than Glenn did at previous debates. : That would be the sound and fury of the so-called debate proposed by Uncle Harvey and running mate Fat Joe Doria, and to be hosted by the Bayonne NAACP. Greg Roberts is the head of the Bayonne Chapter of the NAACP, and also happens to be head of the Planning Board. Talk about no-brainers! Both of these guys are no-brainers. All of these guys are no-brainers. We would like to know how to have a debate with one candidate. They wanted to have a debate, only they were not going to invite anybody else! Would you pay to see a boxing match with just one fighter? What about a debate with only one candidate? Not interested? We did not think that you would be. What fun would that be? It would be the sound of one hand clapping, something that Uncle Harvey and Fat Joe should get accustomed to. What a horrible thought we just had. What if they lost? Who would they blame? Who would they accuse of foul play? : Word got back to the “other candidate,” Glenn Cunningham. Remember him? He is the Mayor of Jersey City. Cunningham, understandably perplexed, called the Bayonne NAACP and asked how they proposed to have a one-sided debate. Cunningham asked why he was not invited. NAACP representatives told Cunningham graciously that if he wanted to, he could come. Cunningham said thanks, but no thanks, he would not come as he was not invited. Cunningham did also say that he would call the National office of the NAACP and speak to National Chairman Kweisi Mfume just to let him know what the Bayonne chapter was planning. Cunningham has a very close relationship with the National Leadership. Needless to say, the “debate,” was canceled. With that, there was a round of applause, but nobody could hear it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GregBaumgarten posted Message 560 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 21, 2003 at 16:48:43 Subject: Glazer the Dirt Bag In all the sleaziness of Jersey City politics this guy is the lowest of the low. What exactly is out of bounds? Poking fun at a guy when his son dies? Not to Glazer. Speculating that a young woman is pregnant and who the father is. How many illegitimate kids has Glenn had? Even the likes of McCann knew that family was off limits but not this piece of crap. What goes around comes around and its coming real soon real hard you punk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL posted Message 561 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 21, 2003 at 17:14:20 Subject: Re: Glazer the Dirt Bag I could not have said it better....well done!.... ***************** End Of Article ****************** mickey d posted Message 562 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 21, 2003 at 17:16:27 Subject: Bobby Jackson and theUTN Jersey City Guide Posted by What was that quote from Jay Stevens..something about curruption ,.................................................. on May 13, 2003 at 23:18:06: PoliticsNJ.com - New Jersey's Online Political Network -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tuesday, May 13, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moving lips It's a corny old joke: How do you know BOBBY JACKSON isn't telling the truth? His lips are moving. The sad thing is it's true. Jackson has been a controversial and often disruptive fixture in Jersey City politics for years. He has served as City Council President and as the city's Democratic Municipal Chairman. In a county where people take their politics seriously, few personalities seem to generate as much intensity as discussion of Jackson. Hudson County political observers from the two major factions of the Democratic Party say that Jackson is the one who has created a civil war-like atmosphere in Jersey City. Jackson, many say, is among the most responsible for driving a wedge between Jersey City Mayor GLENN CUNNINGHAM and the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Jackson seems to have a sort-of svengali effect on the Mayor, who is taking heat for the quality of the company he has chosen to keep. Jackson's latest scam is the Urban Times News, a pseudo-weekly Jersey City-based newspaper that appears to be nothing more than a communications product for the Cunningham administration. The editor is JOSEPH CARDWELL, a Cunningham advisor and Chief of Staff to former Hudson County Executive BERNARD HARTNETT, and the name of Deputy Mayor EUGENE DRAYTON had appeared on the masthead until Jersey Journal political reporter PETER WEISS wrote a story about it. Local political players say that the Urban Times News receives advertising monies from the Jersey City municipal government. The Cardwell publication has an extreme pro-Cunningham bent, and has vilified many Cunningham foes. The favorable treatment Jackson has received appears to have resulted in some lucrative advertising deals. Among the Urban Times News' advertisers are the Jersey City Incinerator Authority, the Jersey City Department of Public Works, the Jersey City Public Library, the Jersey City Housing Authority, the Jersey City Development Corporation, and the Jersey City Economic Development Corporation. Lately, the newspaper has been throwing some fairly astonishing punches at L. HARVEY SMITH, the City Council President who is challenging Cunningham in the Democratic primary for State Senator in the 31st district. Smith has led the fight to ban the city from using municipal revenues to advertise in this publication: the Jersey Journal estimated recently that the city spent about $71,000 on Urban Times News advertising in 2002. The Jersey City Board of Education has already pulled their advertising from the paper, and Smith has pushed the autonomous Office of Employment and Training away from advertising as well. For a brief time, the Urban Times News used the logo of the New Jersey Press Association on its masthead, even though it was not a member. This logo was pulled after the association's attorneys contacted the newspaper. One Jersey City resident recently asked the U.S. Attorney to investigate the use of tax dollars spent on Jackson's publication, alleging that the address listed for the Urban Times News on its masthead, 529 Bergen Avenue in Jersey City, is actually a grocery store that accepts mail on their behalf. A recent Cunningham campaign mailing used 529 Bergen Avenue as a return address. The General Manager of the newspaper is MARTIN JACKSON, the son of Bobby Jackson. Martin Jackson's day job is as a staffer to Cunningham, where he runs websites for the city. The domain name urbantimesnews.com is registered to Martin Jackson at the Miller Branch of the Jersey City Public Library. ALEXANDER BOOTH, the Jersey City Corporation Counsel that Cunningham wants to fire, alleged that Jackson sought support for a illegal no-bid contract for purchasing eighty photocopiers for the city from a campaign donor. "Based upon my own observations, I had concluded that the mayor's closest advisers were using their relationship with him solely for the purpose of personal financial gain," Booth states in the court documents. "I believe this was putting the reputation and viability of the administration in jeopardy." Jackson has denied Booth's charges. Jackson sought to secure a piece of the Journal Square development project several years ago. He and Cardwell wanted $130,000 contract to create and operate a minority contracting oversight system for the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency. After Governor JAMES E. MCGREEVEY took office in 2002, Jackson unsuccessfully sought party support for an appointment to the state Athletic Control Board. Some Democrats allege that under Jackson's stewardship, the Jersey City Democratic Committee, did not file any campaign finance reports with the New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission from January, 2002 through June, 2002, when he was replaced as chairman. Despite not filing any ELEC reports, Jackson and Cunningham continued to raise and expend during that time -- and there have been reports that some of those checks subsequently bounced. Jackson also heads the "Reform Democratic Organization," which never registered or filed with ELEC, but which took out paid advertisements in newspapers and which served as the banner under which Cunningham's county executive nominee ran during the 2002 primary. Jackson's closest political ally is GERALD MCCANN, a former Mayor of Jersey City who was removed from office following a federal criminal conviction in 1992. McCann, now out of prison, has re-emerged on the political scene as a member of Cunningham's inner circle. When McCann served as Hudson County Democratic Chairman more than a decade ago, Jackson, the Jersey City Democratic leader, was his local political lieutenant. Jackson returned as party chairman after Cunningham won in 2001, but was unseated a year later when their candidate for County Executive, Hartnett, got swamped by the organization candidate, former Jersey City Council President and Cunningham mayoral rival THOMAS DEGISE. He was replaced by City Councilman WILLIAM GAUGHAN, who is now the Chief of Staff to DeGise. Jackson didn't even show up for the vote, after losing a large number of County Committee seats in the election. During the 1985 general election, when Republican Governor THOMAS KEAN carried Jersey City, there were allegations that Jackson and McCann worked to suppress voter turnout among African Americans. He also has ties to former Hudson County Executive ROBERT JANISZEWSI, who abruptly resigned his office in mid-2001 and later admitted to taking over $100,000 in bribes during his thirteen years in office; Janiszewski, cooperating with federal prosecutors as he awaits sentencing, is reportedly in a witness protection program. But Jackson wasn't always a Cunningham fan: just before the 1989 mayoral runoff, when Cunningham and McCann were rivals, Jackson told the Jersey Journal that Cunningham is "basically the way he started. He's still very insecure, petty and childish." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 563 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 21, 2003 at 17:51:13 Subject: Re: Glazer the Dirt Bag : I could not have said it better....well done!.... Thank you for reading The Urban Times News. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 1 way to use the UTN posted Message 564 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 21, 2003 at 19:49:33 Subject: Re: Glazer the Dirt Bag I get the Urban Times every Saturday, I use it to line my bird cage and cat litter box...how useful it is! Thanks BJ ***************** End Of Article ****************** EliasHowe posted Message 565 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 21, 2003 at 23:31:19 Subject: Re: Glazer the Dirt Bag : In all the sleaziness of Jersey City politics this guy is the lowest of the low. What exactly is out of bounds? Poking fun at a guy when his son dies? Not to Glazer. Speculating that a young woman is pregnant and who the father is. How many illegitimate kids has Glenn had? Even the likes of McCann knew that family was off limits but not this piece of crap. What goes around comes around and its coming real soon real hard you punk. What a way to make a living. Being Bobby Jackson's lackey. Bobby is a lackey himself and Glazer is his butt boy. His little white boy toy. I'm one of the whites in this town who voted for Glenn and I deeply regret it. The fact that he allows no talent low lifes like you to polarize this city is a mark of his inferior leadership abilities and a sub-par intellect.Explain to us what makes a man into a hoe.does the name David Dinkins ring a bell? And Steve, do you have the nerve to Harvey, "Uncle Harvey" to his face? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Elijah posted Message 566 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2003 at 08:17:56 Subject: Menendez started off by biting the Union City mayors hand Menendez started off by biting the Union City mayors hand that brought him up. With this as the fact, you want him to get respected? : In all the sleaziness of Jersey City politics this guy is the lowest of the low. What exactly is out of bounds? Poking fun at a guy when his son dies? Not to Glazer. Speculating that a young woman is pregnant and who the father is. How many illegitimate kids has Glenn had? Even the likes of McCann knew that family was off limits but not this piece of crap. What goes around comes around and its coming real soon real hard you punk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ELIJAH posted Message 567 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2003 at 08:24:49 Subject: real WHITE POODLE!!! Your white alright a real WHITE POODLE!!! North Hudson tugged your leash one way and you went and yipyipped all the way to cast your vote for Glenn. Now North Hudson pulls your leash the other way and Degise is your all time hero. Might as well turn the light on in your attack now. There was never any smart guys. All the seeming smartaleky fellows was in on the CLUB FED!!!! That leash of yours is going to get cut loose. : : In all the sleaziness of Jersey City politics this guy is the lowest of the low. What exactly is out of bounds? Poking fun at a guy when his son dies? Not to Glazer. Speculating that a young woman is pregnant and who the father is. How many illegitimate kids has Glenn had? Even the likes of McCann knew that family was off limits but not this piece of crap. What goes around comes around and its coming real soon real hard you punk. : What a way to make a living. Being Bobby Jackson's lackey. Bobby is a lackey himself and Glazer is his butt boy. His little white boy toy. I'm one of the whites in this town who voted for Glenn and I deeply regret it. The fact that he allows no talent low lifes like you to polarize this city is a mark of his inferior leadership abilities and a sub-par intellect.Explain to us what makes a man into a hoe.does the name David Dinkins ring a bell? And Steve, do you have the nerve to Harvey, "Uncle Harvey" to his face? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Huh? posted Message 568 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2003 at 09:39:02 Subject: Elijah to attend "no child left beind" :Elijah, follow along...the subject is............see spot run,run spot run. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Those darn sticky keys. posted Message 569 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2003 at 09:40:20 Subject: Re: Elijah to attend "no child left behind" : :Elijah, follow along...the subject is............see spot run,run spot run. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 570 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2003 at 09:52:05 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board! Welcome to the Message Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The shoe for you posted Message 571 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2003 at 10:20:34 Subject: FAT CAT is a ALLEY CAT! When you all is eating up the free lunch and getting the drinks you think that nobody hears you laughing about how your big guy has GOT SOMETHING GOING AT EVERY EXIT OFF OF 95 BETWEEN HERE AND DC. Put that out for the public to make up their minds if they like the sound of it or not. : In all the sleaziness of Jersey City politics this guy is the lowest of the low. What exactly is out of bounds? Poking fun at a guy when his son dies? Not to Glazer. Speculating that a young woman is pregnant and who the father is. How many illegitimate kids has Glenn had? Even the likes of McCann knew that family was off limits but not this piece of crap. What goes around comes around and its coming real soon real hard you punk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HUH ? posted Message 572 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2003 at 12:06:20 Subject: Now in English Please! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vincent Militello for State Senate posted Message 573 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2003 at 13:59:35 Subject: Education Reform Cornerstone of Campaign Education Reform Cornerstone of Campaign ***************** End Of Article ****************** 3for5 posted Message 574 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2003 at 18:05:37 Subject: Let me get this straight... Harvey Smith's campaign platform is that he doesn't have a mind of his own and is ready to do as he's told? The spring-fresh blast of honesty is overwhelming! ***************** End Of Article ****************** DAH! posted Message 575 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2003 at 19:17:24 Subject: Re: Let me get this straight... Let me get this straight.... Glenn D Cunningham should have just said no years ago. Your post is as stupid as mine! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tell us, why no Lowes/LaBelle story in the UTN? posted Message 576 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2003 at 20:22:17 Subject: CG :Lets see how Glazer/Stevens answers this one.....or will they ignore the question. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 577 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 23, 2003 at 07:44:46 Subject: Cunningham's view: Jersey City doing fine Cunningham's view: Jersey City doing fine 'Revival continues' blames foes for aid loss Jersey Journal Friday, May 23, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer Midway through his four-year term as Jersey City mayor - and less than two weeks before a primary election for state Senate that pits him against Hudson County's powerful Democratic Party - Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham declared the state of the city strong despite a bleak financial outlook on the state and national levels and the ever-present threat of terrorism. Lauding his administration's success in keeping property tax rates steady over two years, praising the police force for making thousands of drug arrests and pointing to several construction projects in various parts of the city as evidence of continued activity despite the economic downturn, Cunningham delivered his second state of the city address to a crowd of about 350 supporters and administration officials at New Jersey City University Wednesday night. Come July 1, Cunningham will have been in office two years. Reiterating his campaign theme of extending the prosperity of the waterfront to the rest of the city, Cunningham's hourlong speech focused heavily on quality-of-life issues and the city's financial condition. For the rest of the article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** North Bergen#1 posted Message 578 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 23, 2003 at 08:19:09 Subject: Clue me in! I know that all of us good people of North Bergen were told that in order to keep the classless lowlifes of Jersey City down we have to login in onto this web page and put up a message on how we was mad about Cunningham going and trying to run a concert at the Lowe's®. But what I can't figger out for the life of me is how was Cunningham gonna run a concert at that Lowe's® Home Improvement® store down there on Tonnelle Ave.? Was they gonna hold it in the parking lot or waht? One of the other North Bergen people that was told to post messages please set me straight. I don't want to mess up and get called onto the carpet with Nicky yelling at me for doing wrong. I'm putting in a lot of effort here cause I'm bringing over a cousin and I need to get him fixed up with steady work. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Greg Baumgarten posted Message 579 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 23, 2003 at 08:19:17 Subject: Re: Now in English Please! You gotta a problem with ebonics you racist slime. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Brian Dork posted Message 580 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 23, 2003 at 08:23:39 Subject: Re: Clue me in! : I know that all of us good people of North Bergen were told that in order to keep the classless lowlifes of Jersey City down we have to login in onto this web page and put up a message on how we was mad about Cunningham going and trying to run a concert at the Lowe's®. But what I can't figger out for the life of me is how was Cunningham gonna run a concert at that Lowe's® : Home Improvement® store down there on Tonnelle Ave.? Was they gonna hold it in the parking lot or waht? So how did you and Bo do in the election a few weeks ago? : One of the other North Bergen people that was told to post messages please set me straight. I don't want to mess up and get called onto the carpet with Nicky yelling at me for doing wrong. I'm putting in a lot of effort here cause I'm bringing over a cousin and I need to get him fixed up with steady work. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Brian Dork posted Message 581 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 23, 2003 at 08:29:47 Subject: Re: Glazer the Dirt Bag : : I could not have said it better....well done!.... : Thank you for reading The Urban Times News. Hey Glazer,you punk. Cat got your tongue. Answer the question. Got the onions to call Harvey, "uncle Harvey" to his face? Or are just A Bobby Jackson butt boy hiding behind a computer. Stand up once in your life and be a man. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ExposeTHEDONALD posted Message 582 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 23, 2003 at 08:46:20 Subject: Re: Bobby Jackson and theUTN THERE FOLLOWING ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY DONALD SCARINCI AND APPEARED ON SCARINCI'S WEBSITE POLITICSNJ.COM : Jersey City Guide : Posted by What was that quote from Jay Stevens..something about curruption ,.................................................. on May 13, 2003 at 23:18:06: : PoliticsNJ.com - New Jersey's Online Political Network : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Tuesday, May 13, 2003 : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Moving lips : : It's a corny old joke: How do you know BOBBY JACKSON isn't telling the truth? His lips are moving. : : The sad thing is it's true. Jackson has been a controversial and often disruptive fixture in Jersey City politics for years. He has served as City Council President and as the city's Democratic Municipal Chairman. In a county where people take their politics seriously, few personalities seem to generate as much intensity as discussion of Jackson. : : Hudson County political observers from the two major factions of the Democratic Party say that Jackson is the one who has created a civil war-like atmosphere in Jersey City. Jackson, many say, is among the most responsible for driving a wedge between Jersey City Mayor GLENN CUNNINGHAM and the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Jackson seems to have a sort-of svengali effect on the Mayor, who is taking heat for the quality of the company he has chosen to keep. : : Jackson's latest scam is the Urban Times News, a pseudo-weekly Jersey City-based newspaper that appears to be nothing more than a communications product for the Cunningham administration. The editor is JOSEPH CARDWELL, a Cunningham advisor and Chief of Staff to former Hudson County Executive BERNARD HARTNETT, and the name of Deputy Mayor EUGENE DRAYTON had appeared on the masthead until Jersey Journal political reporter PETER WEISS wrote a story about it. Local political players say that the Urban Times News receives advertising monies from the Jersey City municipal government. The Cardwell publication has an extreme pro-Cunningham bent, and has vilified many Cunningham foes. : : The favorable treatment Jackson has received appears to have resulted in some lucrative advertising deals. Among the Urban Times News' advertisers are the Jersey City Incinerator Authority, the Jersey City Department of Public Works, the Jersey City Public Library, the Jersey City Housing Authority, the Jersey City Development Corporation, and the Jersey City Economic Development Corporation. : : Lately, the newspaper has been throwing some fairly astonishing punches at L. HARVEY SMITH, the City Council President who is challenging Cunningham in the Democratic primary for State Senator in the 31st district. Smith has led the fight to ban the city from using municipal revenues to advertise in this publication: the Jersey Journal estimated recently that the city spent about $71,000 on Urban Times News advertising in 2002. The Jersey City Board of Education has already pulled their advertising from the paper, and Smith has pushed the autonomous Office of Employment and Training away from advertising as well. : : For a brief time, the Urban Times News used the logo of the New Jersey Press Association on its masthead, even though it was not a member. This logo was pulled after the association's attorneys contacted the newspaper. : : One Jersey City resident recently asked the U.S. Attorney to investigate the use of tax dollars spent on Jackson's publication, alleging that the address listed for the Urban Times News on its masthead, 529 Bergen Avenue in Jersey City, is actually a grocery store that accepts mail on their behalf. A recent Cunningham campaign mailing used 529 Bergen Avenue as a return address. : : The General Manager of the newspaper is MARTIN JACKSON, the son of Bobby Jackson. Martin Jackson's day job is as a staffer to Cunningham, where he runs websites for the city. The domain name urbantimesnews.com is registered to Martin Jackson at the Miller Branch of the Jersey City Public Library. : : ALEXANDER BOOTH, the Jersey City Corporation Counsel that Cunningham wants to fire, alleged that Jackson sought support for a illegal no-bid contract for purchasing eighty photocopiers for the city from a campaign donor. "Based upon my own observations, I had concluded that the mayor's closest advisers were using their relationship with him solely for the purpose of personal financial gain," Booth states in the court documents. "I believe this was putting the reputation and viability of the administration in jeopardy." Jackson has denied Booth's charges. : : Jackson sought to secure a piece of the Journal Square development project several years ago. He and Cardwell wanted $130,000 contract to create and operate a minority contracting oversight system for the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency. After Governor JAMES E. MCGREEVEY took office in 2002, Jackson unsuccessfully sought party support for an appointment to the state Athletic Control Board. : : Some Democrats allege that under Jackson's stewardship, the Jersey City Democratic Committee, did not file any campaign finance reports with the New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission from January, 2002 through June, 2002, when he was replaced as chairman. Despite not filing any ELEC reports, Jackson and Cunningham continued to raise and expend during that time -- and there have been reports that some of those checks subsequently bounced. Jackson also heads the "Reform Democratic Organization," which never registered or filed with ELEC, but which took out paid advertisements in newspapers and which served as the banner under which Cunningham's county executive nominee ran during the 2002 primary. : Jackson's closest political ally is GERALD MCCANN, a former Mayor of Jersey City who was removed from office following a federal criminal conviction in 1992. McCann, now out of prison, has re-emerged on the political scene as a member of Cunningham's inner circle. When McCann served as Hudson County Democratic Chairman more than a decade ago, Jackson, the Jersey City Democratic leader, was his local political lieutenant. Jackson returned as party chairman after Cunningham won in 2001, but was unseated a year later when their candidate for County Executive, Hartnett, got swamped by the organization candidate, former Jersey City Council President and Cunningham mayoral rival THOMAS DEGISE. He was replaced by City Councilman WILLIAM GAUGHAN, who is now the Chief of Staff to DeGise. Jackson didn't even show up for the vote, after losing a large number of County Committee seats in the election. : : During the 1985 general election, when Republican Governor THOMAS KEAN carried Jersey City, there were allegations that Jackson and McCann worked to suppress voter turnout among African Americans. : : He also has ties to former Hudson County Executive ROBERT JANISZEWSI, who abruptly resigned his office in mid-2001 and later admitted to taking over $100,000 in bribes during his thirteen years in office; Janiszewski, cooperating with federal prosecutors as he awaits sentencing, is reportedly in a witness protection program. : : But Jackson wasn't always a Cunningham fan: just before the 1989 mayoral runoff, when Cunningham and McCann were rivals, Jackson told the Jersey Journal that Cunningham is "basically the way he started. He's still very insecure, petty and childish." : ***************** End Of Article ****************** I tell da truth! posted Message 583 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 23, 2003 at 11:21:01 Subject: Re: Glazer the Dirt Bag He is standing up.....he is just very short. And I mean this about all of his short comings. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN posted Message 584 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 23, 2003 at 14:42:25 Subject: CUNNINGHAM SEEKS FREEZE ON HCDO FUNDS CUNNINGHAM ASKS COURT TO FREEZE HCDO ACCOUNTS UTN NEWS -email: stories@urbantimesnews.com Jersey City—A hearing is set for Tuesday May 27 in Superior Court in a suit by Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham to freeze the accounts of the Hudson County Democratic Organization and its candidates for illegal campaign funding. Attorneys for Cunningham said that the HCDO has illegally contributed $158, 275. 82 to the campaigns of candidates Harvey Smith, Janet Hayes, Elba Perez Cinciarelli, and Joseph Doria. This, say the attorneys, is according to documents filed by the HCDO itself as of about May 5, being 29 days prior to the election. Since then, the candidates have spent additional hundreds of thousands of dollars on advertising, campaign literature and campaign functions. “NJSA 19:34-52 states that no state, county, or municipal committee shall, prior to any primary election endorse the candidacy of any candidate for party nomination. The courts have interpreted this to mean no endorsement by the party or contribution of dollars by party. In reviewing the online reports filed by the candidates, only Doria has raised any money independently. Harvey Smith is clearly bought and paid for 100% owned outright, being given his entire war chest and campaign expense. I expect that we will prevail to freeze the accounts of the HCDO to prevent any further illegal acts,” said attorneys for Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The whole truth and nothing but the truth....... posted Message 585 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 23, 2003 at 22:02:28 Subject: Re: Bobby Jackson and theUTN : : : : Please do tell...Name one item in this column that is not factual! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 586 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 24, 2003 at 08:12:05 Subject: Jersey Journal: Claim of retaliation for not buying ticket Claim of retaliation for not buying ticket JCPA part-timer's allegations stir probes Jersey Journal Saturday, May 24, 2003 By Earl Morgan Journal staff writer A part-time employee for the Jersey City Parking Authority said his job description and hours were changed for the worse after he refused to contribute to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's state Senate campaign, and that other employees were being pressured to buy and sell tickets to fund-raising dinners. Both the Mayor's Office and the Jersey City City Council say they'll investigate allegations made at two public meetings this month by Pat O'Melia, who was hired by the JCPA in December for $30,000 a year to do part-time "community outreach and public relations" work. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 587 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 24, 2003 at 08:16:51 Subject: Jersey Journal: School board fight resumes School board fight resumes Jersey Journal Saturday, May 24, 2003 Peter Weiss Another attempt by the Hudson County Democratic Organization to wrest control of the Schools of Technology board of trustees from supporters of Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham may take place later this month. A bill that would expand the board of trustees from seven to nine members has been kicking around the Legislature for months. It was supposed to have been voted on this week, but it is being held up by Republicans in the Senate. It is now slated for a May 29 vote . . . For the complete piece, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Henson posted Message 588 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 24, 2003 at 10:10:35 Subject: Re: Jersey Journal: Claim of retaliation for not buying ticket Golly, I sure hope that big Jim didn't try to make Pat do any work just 'cause Pat wouldn't by a ticket. . . You are supposed to wait until after the election before fluffing up the wisenheimers! : Claim of retaliation for not buying ticket : JCPA part-timer's allegations stir probes : Jersey Journal : Saturday, May 24, 2003 : By Earl Morgan : Journal staff writer : A part-time employee for the Jersey City Parking Authority said his job description and hours were changed for the worse after he refused to contribute to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's state Senate campaign, and that other employees were being pressured to buy and sell tickets to fund-raising dinners. : Both the Mayor's Office and the Jersey City City Council say they'll investigate allegations made at two public meetings this month by Pat O'Melia, who was hired by the JCPA in December for $30,000 a year to do part-time "community outreach and public relations" work. : . . . : For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ParoleGate posted Message 589 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2003 at 22:55:45 Subject: Offense Boss Menendez's Only Defense Offense is Boss Menendez's Only Defense ! Isn't it ironic that Attorney Donald Scarinci is paying for FULL PAGE ads in the Jersey Journal trying to blame Glenn for the Concert Scam. In particular TRYING TO link the Mayor to "Gangsta" Entertainer Rappers. WHAT A JOKE !! This is the same Donald Scarinci (Boss Menendez's Best Friend) who is under Federal Investigation for influencing the Parole Board so that a Mafia Capo could get out of prison. THATS A REAL GANGSTER THAT DONALD HELP GET OUT OF PRISON - Not a rapper. TALK ABOUT SCAMS - Menendez & Scarinci wrote the book. A vote for Harvey is a vote for Scarinci & Menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vincent Militello for State Senate posted Message 590 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 27, 2003 at 10:25:35 Subject: Militello: Any Time, Any Place? Militello: Any Time, Any Place? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 591 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 27, 2003 at 18:08:10 Subject: CUNNINGHAM VINDICATED IN ELECTION FUND SUIT CUNNINGHAM VINDICATED IN ELECTION FUND SUIT Steven Glazer–email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com Jersey City—Superior Court Judge Thomas Olivieri handed Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham an easy victory over opponent L. Harvey Smith in a suit brought on Smith’s behalf by the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Olivieri totally dismissed claims by Smith against Cunningham for Senate and against Team Cunningham as unsupported by evidence. Olivieri concluded that Smith failed to show sufficient evidence relating to any irregularities of campaign finance by Cunningham’s organization at any time in the last two years. “This was the type of last resort tactic of a desperate man,” said attorneys for Cunningham of Smith’s suit. Cunningham’s attorneys are preparing suit against Smith and other HCDO candidates that will be filed shortly for campaign finance violations. Olivieri refused to hear a request for an immediate injunction in that action so Cunningham’s legal team will file with the court’s law division. That action charges that the HCDO has illegally contributed $158, 275. 82 to the campaigns of candidates Harvey Smith, Janet Hayes, Elba Perez Cinciarelli, and Joseph Doria, This, say the attorneys, is according to documents filed by the HCDO itself as of about May 5, being 29 days prior to the election. Since then, the candidates have spent additional hundreds of thousands of dollars on advertising, campaign literature and campaign functions. “NJSA 19:34-52 states that no state, county, or municipal committee shall, prior to any primary election endorse the candidacy of any candidate for party nomination. The courts have interpreted this to mean no endorsement by the party or contribution of dollars by party. In reviewing the online reports filed by the candidates, only Doria has raised any money independently. Harvey Smith is clearly bought and paid for 100% owned outright, being given his entire war chest and campaign expense. I expect that we will prevail to freeze the accounts of the HCDO to prevent any further illegal acts,” said attorneys for Cunningham. Any elected official who gained office in any campaign financed in this fashion can be stripped of his office after the election according to Cunningham’s lawyers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Copied from the wire. posted Message 592 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 27, 2003 at 22:33:16 Subject: This is the real press release....UTN LIES AGAIN! For Immediate Release: Contact: Tony Bawidaman 201-420-8898 JUDGE RULES: CUNNINGHAM CAN NO LONGER SPEND MONEY OUT OF POLITICAL ACCOUNT Cunningham: out of touch and now out of money Jersey City: Today, in the Hudson County Superior Court Judge Olivieri ruled that Glen Cunningham can no longer spend out of the Political Committee account which he has been running his campaign out of. Judge Olivieri ruled that the Cunningham Campaign can no longer send direct mail, distribute handouts, hang sign or pay workers from the Jersey City Reform Democratic Organization, any printed mail or materials that have bee printed prior to this day cannot be used for this campaign and must be destroyed. "Cunningham's flagrant disregard for the law has caught up to him. He just realized today that if you break the law there are consequences to that. He thought since he was a former law enforcement official he could break any laws he wanted and today he got caught," said Javier Inclan, Executive Director of the Hudson County Democratic Organization. "I think the Cunningham campaign is realizing that crime does not pay. Essentially the courts stopped his campaign dead in its tracks. This definitely changes the outcome of the campaign. Now that Cunningham cannot spend any more of his campaign dollars it puts him at a huge disadvantage," said Tony Bawidamann, Campaign Manager for the 31st Legislative District. ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vincent Militello for State Senate posted Message 593 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 07:48:53 Subject: Chicken Gets Mayor Clucking Different Tune Chicken Gets Mayor Clucking Different Tune ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 594 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 08:01:06 Subject: Jersey Journal: Lawyer says psychiatrist to back freeholder's claim she didn't know envelopes held bribes SHE DIDN'T KNOW Lawyer says psychiatrist to back freeholder's claim she didn't know envelopes held bribes Jersey Journal Wednesday, May 28, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer NEWARK - A key witness in the federal corruption trial of Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon will back up Davila-Colon's contention that she never knew she was passing bribes to former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski, her attorney said yesterday in an interview outside the federal courtroom where jury selection in the case began. In an opening round surprise in what promises to be a politically explosive case featuring secretly taped audio and video recordings of public officials, Union City psychiatrist Dr. Oscar Sandoval will testify that Davila-Colon didn't know the envelopes she passed to Janiszewski contained the bribes, said her attorney, Peter Willis. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 595 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 08:04:19 Subject: Jersey Journal: Years of serving powerful men at least one won't willingly testify Years of serving powerful men at least one won't willingly testify Jersey Journal Wednesday, May 28, 2003 By Peter Weiss Journal staff writer Not only has Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon of Jersey City been a local political presence in her own right for nearly two decades, but she has also worked for some of the most powerful officials in the state and nation. Now she's hoping they'll come to her aid as character witnesses in her trial on federal bribe-related charges. But at least one of them won't oblige. Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, will not voluntarily testify as a character witness, his office said yesterday. He could still be subpoenaed, but it would be highly unusual for the defense to call a character witness who indicates reluctance to testify. Former Rep. Frank Guarini of Jersey City could not be reached for comment. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 596 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 08:08:05 Subject: Jersey Journal: Rival Dems still can't agree on court ruling Rival Dems still can't agree on court ruling Jersey Journal Wednesday, May 28, 2003 Peter Weiss There's nothing like a clear-cut court decision to settle a dispute. "Cunningham Triumphs, Again!!!!!" declared a Democrats for Hudson County press release, following yesterday's continuation of a court hearing on campaign funding. "Judge Dismisses Frivolous Lawsuit Against Campaign." That's unambiguous. A big win for Democrats for Hudson County and Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's campaign for the Democratic nomination for state Senate in the 31st District, right? Oops, here's another press release: "Judge Rules: Cunningham Can No Longer Spend Money Out of Political Account," it declares. "Cunningham out of touch and now out of money." Was there another case going on in another courtroom yesterday? Nope, it's the same case - but with a different interpretation of the result, just like the last time the issue came up. . . . For the complete articel, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 595 Newark Ave. posted Message 597 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 08:28:57 Subject: Re: Jersey Journal: Years of serving powerful men at least one won't willingly testify Well, at least we can be sure with Congressman Guarini that the relationship was strictly professional and that there was no EXTRACURRICULARS to cloud his judgement. Congressman Bob? FORGET ABOUT IT!!! : Years of serving powerful men at least one won't willingly testify : Jersey Journal : Wednesday, May 28, 2003 : By Peter Weiss : Journal staff writer : Not only has Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon of Jersey City been a local political presence in her own right for nearly two decades, but she has also worked for some of the most powerful officials in the state and nation. Now she's hoping they'll come to her aid as character witnesses in her trial on federal bribe-related charges. : But at least one of them won't oblige. : Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, will not voluntarily testify as a character witness, his office said yesterday. He could still be subpoenaed, but it would be highly unusual for the defense to call a character witness who indicates reluctance to testify. : Former Rep. Frank Guarini of Jersey City could not be reached for comment. : . . . : For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Van Kull posted Message 598 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 08:36:28 Subject: Is Harvey Smith CHICKENSH**?!?! The MILITELLO CHICKEN will be at Jersey City City Hall (280 Grove Street) tonight for the Council Meeting. The pugilistic poultry will be strutting his stuff to see if Jersey City Council President Harvey Smith is up to snuff and ready to debate. So far, L. Harvey Smith has consistently shown his tailfeathers and ran for cover, refusing to debate former Assistant Prosecutor Vincent Militello ***************** End Of Article ****************** WE ARE WAITING TO SEE YOUR REPLY. posted Message 599 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 11:46:25 Subject: WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY! TO JAY STEVENS/ STEVE GLAZER/BOBBY JACKSON THE URBAN TIMES NEWS CLAIMS THAT IT TELLS THE TRUTH BUT, WHOSE TRUTH DOES IT TELL………….WHY HAVE WE NOT READ ONE THING ABOUT THE PATTI LABELLE/LOWES SCANDEL. Do you feel that theft in the name of charity is acceptable…………we are all waiting for your reply! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vincent Militello for State Senate posted Message 600 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 12:35:23 Subject: Media Announcement: One Chicken at a Time Contact: Mircalla Wozniak or Katie Dowd (201) 339-8020 Yesterday, a chicken greeted Mayor Cunningham at City Hall and got the mayor to agree to a debate. Today, a chicken will confront City Council member Harvey Smith on why he won’t debate. A chicken will be present at City Hall at 5:30pm and the chicken will attend the last Jersey City Council meeting before the election next Tuesday. The meeting is open to the public and officially begins at 6pm. A Militello for State Senate spokesperson will also be available for questions as well. We received personal attention from both Councilman Smith and Mayor Cunningham on Tuesday and we expect a similar response today. I do hope that you will be able to stop by and grab -- what will be an excellent photo opportunity and a great story. It is very important that the voters begin to realize that elections should focus on issues not personalities. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 601 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 12:42:21 Subject: Mud along the Hudson flies again, in a Senate race Mud along the Hudson flies again, in a Senate race Jersey City mayor seeks more muscle via a Trenton seat, and his congressman wants to stop him Star Ledger Wednesday, May 28, 2003 BY JEFF WHELAN Star-Ledger Staff Glenn Cunningham was brimming with confidence. Sipping hot chocolate in his City Hall office last week, the Jersey City mayor excitedly showed a visitor a few of his prized mementos, including a boxing glove signed by Muhammad Ali. Fresh from a picnic at Liberty State Park, he also described how a throng of senior citizens had smothered him with hugs and kisses. It was a sure sign, he said, that his Democratic primary campaign for the state Senate is going well. "I'm respected in this city. I enjoy a 76 percent job approval rating. And I think it might even be higher at this moment. And of course, I'm well ahead in the polls. Yeah, I'm going to win," said Cunningham. But first, the former U.S. marshal will have to get past Hudson County's reigning Democratic power broker, Rep. Robert Menendez. Two years ago, the congressman helped Cunningham to be elected as the city's first African- American mayor. Now, however, the two men are locked in a bitter battle for control of the county. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan Eason posted Message 602 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 15:54:57 Subject: Cunningham Triumphs, Again!!!!! Cunningham Triumphs, Again!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan Eason posted Message 603 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 16:45:28 Subject: NAACP Blasts Negative Smith Campaign NAACP Blasts Negative Smith Campaign ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 604 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 17:30:11 Subject: Listen Online! Pat Omelia's Hudson County's Talking , 05/25/03 Pat Omelia's radio call-in show, Hudson County's Talking, is broadcast on WNSW (1430AM), every Monday evening at 9 PM. The call-in phone number is 877-999-0799 (toll free). You can e-mail Pat Omelia at jctalking2000@yahoo.com Pat's show is now archived on the Web. A recording from last Monday is available through the Link below. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 605 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 19:21:45 Subject: Jersey City Reporter: Mayor reports on city's progress, criticizes council SPEAKING TO THE PEOPLE - Mayor Glenn Cunningham giving the 2003 State of the City address at New Jersey City University last Wednesday. Midterm address Mayor reports on city's progress, criticizes council By Donald M. Kelly Reporter staff writer Jersey City Reporter May 25, 2003 What began as the yearly report on Jersey City ended with criticism of the City Council when Mayor Glenn Cunningham gave his State of the City address Wednesday night at New Jersey City University. Ending a nearly hour-long presentation on positive changes in Jersey City, Cunningham addressed the City Council, with whom he has been at political odds for two years, on what he described as their lack of responsibility for the citizens who elected them to office. "If you are elected, you must believe that the people who elected you should come first," said Cunningham. Cunningham and eight of the nine members of the City Council have been at war since they took opposite sides in the election for Hudson County Executive after Robert Janiszewski's the resignation. Cunningham backed Janiszewski's replacement, Bernard Hartnett, while the majority of the council backed former Jersey City Council President Tom DeGise, who also was backed by Congressman Robert Menendez. . . . For the complete article, see the Link ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 606 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 19:25:40 Subject: Jersey City Reporter: Reality corruption? Reality corruption? Jersey City Reporter May 25, 2003 . . . Of course, anyone tapping into Paul Byrne's phone (the only name so far disclosed as having been tapped) would have to have some sense of humor, leaving the public with the ultimate question as to whether or not the FBI has the necessary funny bone to understand the ins and outs of Hudson County politics. When asked (in a phone interview) if he thought his phone was still bugged, Byrne immediately spoke very loudly, saying, "I think U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie will make a much better candidate for governor than Bret Schundler did, and he can count on my vote." All this bugging is set against the backdrop of the bribery trial of Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon, who has been charged with acting as a conduit to Janiszewski while her one-time boyfriend Dr. Oscar Sandoval - the man who is said to have actually supplied the $20,000 to keep his contracts with the county - has not been. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 607 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 19:51:28 Subject: NORTH JERSEY NEWS: Hudson GOP primary takes unusual twist NORTH JERSEY NEWS Hudson GOP primary takes unusual twist Wednesday, May 28, 2003 By PETER J. SAMPSON STAFF WRITER Reprising their last primary contest for the 32nd District Senate seat, Republicans Frank MacCormack Sr. of Secaucus and John Pluchino of North Bergen are battling for the right to face North Hudson Democratic power Nicholas J. Sacco in November. This time, however, the intraparty feud has taken a bizarre turn: MacCormack is alleging that Hudson County Republican leaders plotted to help Sacco's bid for a fourth Senate term - a claim they scornfully dismiss. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Oh no Not Kabili posted Message 608 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 20:25:49 Subject: Re: NAACP Blasts Negative Smith Campaign : NAACP Blasts Negative Smith Campaign Kabili Tayari is as big a racist as Al Sharpton. What does he think of Glen calling Harv, "Uncle Harvey". I guess thats all right cause Glenn writes the checks. Next thing you know the Urban Times will endorse Glenn. That Eason, he's a funny guy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ALBATROSS....Nope ....wrong type of bird. posted Message 609 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 20:59:38 Subject: Business card ads Thank you for trying to help but, I am already on to the next thing! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sad but true. posted Message 610 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2003 at 22:01:16 Subject: Re: NAACP Blasts Negative Smith Campaign Stan, I have always thought of you as an honorable man. Unfortunately, after reading the press release I am now wondering what has happened to you. When you first went to work for the mayor, you said to me that you will never put your name on something that was not true…..well talk to me, do you really believe that Harvey is a racist and against who? The release mentions the N.A.A.C.P. so I guess you are saying that Harvey is against African Americans. This has to be the biggest bunch of Bull I have ever read. How dare Stan Eason the Mayor and the Jersey City Chapter of the N.A.A.C.P try to use the name of the N.A.A.C.P for political gain? I have already put a call out to a good friend of my family a man who is in the top ranks of the N.A.A.C.P. This garbage is going to stop and I promise you it will. Remember Stan, it was a member of my family who was murdered in the South trying to help African Americans. Thank You all for setting the movement backwards. I do not care if it is your job and you have no choice…we all have choices! I would sell pencils on a street corner before putting my name on anything that is untrue and hurtful…. HOW DARE YOU! HOW DARE MAYOR GLENN D. CUNNINGHAM and most of all HOW DARE THE JERSEY CITY CHAPTER OF THE N.A.A.C.P.! ***************** End Of Article ****************** VIncent Militello for State Senate posted Message 611 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2003 at 09:33:55 Subject: Militello Scores Major Victory for Bayonne, Jersey City Militello Scores Major Victory for Bayonne, Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 612 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2003 at 18:48:06 Subject: Cunningham takes his state aid complaints to Trenton Cunningham takes his state aid complaints to Trenton Joe Albright Jersey Journal Thursday, May 29, 2003 In the Rocky Mountains, the challenge is shooting the white rapids; in Jersey City, the thrill is to ride the green fiscal current, though at times it is stagnant, and of course, the waters of politics are always murky. Mayor Glenn Cunningham of Jersey City is swimming against the tide in the political current - and he's asking the Legislature to end the ebb tide of indifference in Distressed Cities aid. Cunningham will know after Tuesday's primary whether he beats the Hudson County Democratic Organization to win the 31st District Senate seat of Sen. Joseph Charles of Jersey City, who is leaving in the hope of being named to a seat in state Superior Court. L. Harvey Smith, Jersey City City Council president, is the HCDO choice in the Senate race, backed by Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, and Gov. James E. McGreevey. Bayonne attorney Vincent Militello is on the ballot as an independent. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 613 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2003 at 18:51:13 Subject: Jersey Journal: Judge to let jury hear Davila-Colon on tape Judge to let jury hear Davila-Colon on tape Talks of bribes passed at least 3 years earlier, prosecution says Jersey Journal Thursday, May 29, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer NEWARK - The jury in Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon's corruption trial will be permitted to listen to a recorded conversation between her and government informant Dr. Oscar Sandoval about envelopes she passed to former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski at least three years before the bribes she is now accused of passing took place, the judge in the case ruled yesterday. The inclusion of those conversations as evidence will be a boost for the prosecution, which must prove that Davila-Colon knowingly passed $10,000 in bribe money to the then-county executive in 1999 from Sandoval, with whom she had a romantic relationship. Attorneys for Davila-Colon, who has pleaded innocent, will argue that she did not know what was in the envelopes and therefore should not be convicted on the five fraud and extortion charges she faces. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 614 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2003 at 19:56:01 Subject: Video: NAACP Denounces Racist HCDO Campaign Literature The NAACP denounces the Hudson County Democratic Party for their covert racism and subliminal racism. They demand the New Jersey Democratic Party and Governor James McGreevey denouce subliminal racist literature distributed by the Hudson County Democratic Party in the 31st Legislative District. For the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** N.A.A,C.P. national chapter not invoved in this! posted Message 615 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2003 at 22:20:46 Subject: This post worth repeating! Stan, I have always thought of you as an honorable man. Unfortunately, after reading the press release I am now wondering what has happened to you. When you first went to work for the mayor, you said to me that you will never put your name on something that was not true…..well talk to me, do you really believe that Harvey is a racist and against who? The release mentions the N.A.A.C.P. so I guess you are saying that Harvey is against African Americans. This has to be the biggest bunch of Bull I have ever read. How dare Stan Eason the Mayor and the Jersey City Chapter of the N.A.A.C.P try to use the name of the N.A.A.C.P for political gain? I have already put a call out to a good friend of my family a man who is in the top ranks of the N.A.A.C.P. This garbage is going to stop and I promise you it will. Remember Stan, it was a member of my family who was murdered in the South trying to help African Americans. Thank You all for setting the movement backwards. I do not care if it is your job and you have no choice…we all have choices! I would sell pencils on a street corner before putting my name on anything that is untrue and hurtful…. HOW DARE YOU! HOW DARE MAYOR GLENN D. CUNNINGHAM and most of all HOW DARE THE JERSEY CITY CHAPTER OF THE N.A.A.C.P.! ***************** End Of Article ****************** TheRealTruth posted Message 616 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2003 at 23:05:54 Subject: Racist Menendez Controls HCDO The HCDO is controlled by Congressman Robert Menendez who is well known for his racist remarks. Menendez is the guy who recently said a Judicial Appointment wasn't "hispanic enough". Menendez is a disgrace. : Stan, : I have always thought of you as an honorable man. : Unfortunately, after reading the press release I am now wondering what has happened to you. : When you first went to work for the mayor, you said to me that you will never put your name on something that was not true…..well talk to me, do you really believe that Harvey is a racist and against who? The release mentions the N.A.A.C.P. so I guess you are saying that Harvey is against African Americans. This has to be the biggest bunch of Bull I have ever read. How dare Stan Eason the Mayor and the Jersey City Chapter of the N.A.A.C.P try to use the name of the N.A.A.C.P for political gain? I have already put a call out to a good friend of my family a man who is in the top ranks of the N.A.A.C.P. : This garbage is going to stop and I promise you it will. Remember Stan, it was a member of my family who was murdered in the South trying to help African Americans. : Thank You all for setting the movement backwards. : I do not care if it is your job and you have no choice…we all have choices! : I would sell pencils on a street corner before putting my name on anything that is untrue and hurtful…. HOW DARE YOU! HOW DARE MAYOR GLENN D. CUNNINGHAM and most of all HOW DARE THE JERSEY CITY CHAPTER OF THE N.A.A.C.P.! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 617 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2003 at 07:14:31 Subject: JANISZEWSKI TELLS OF BRIBES JANISZEWSKI TELLS OF BRIBES Davila-Colon delivered money from Sandoval on 4 occasions, he testifies Jersey Journal Friday, May 30, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer NEWARK - Disgraced former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski testified in federal court yesterday that he accepted thousands of dollars in bribes from a county vendor in envelopes handed to him by Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon of Jersey City, who is on trial on corruption charges. Reiterating the admissions he made in pleading guilty to extortion in October, the former Democratic powerbroker, who resigned in September 2001, said he received payments of $20,000 from Union City psychiatrist Dr. Oscar Sandoval in 1999 in exchange for county contracts. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 618 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2003 at 07:17:19 Subject: Star witness schools jury on contracts Star witness schools jury on contracts Jersey Journal Friday, May 30, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer NEWARK - Nearly seven months after his emotional appearance in court to plead guilty to extortion, former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski was once again in the federal justice complex on Walnut Street - this time as a witness. Appearing calm and sure of himself, Janiszewski testified for about an hour yesterday in the corruption trial of Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon of Jersey City, who he said passed him $10,000 in bribes from a county vendor in 1999. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 619 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2003 at 07:19:04 Subject: People, places to know in the Davila-Colon trial People, places to know in the Davila-Colon trial Jersey Journal Friday, May 30, 2003 Nidia Davila-Colon: The longest-serving member of the Hudson County Board of Chosen Freeholders, Davila-Colon, 49, of Jersey City, is accused of passing $10,000 in bribes from Dr. Oscar Sandoval, a Union City psychiatrist with whom she had a personal relationship, to disgraced former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski in 1999. Robert Janiszewski: Former Hudson County executive, he has admitted accepting more than $100,000 in bribes during his 13-year tenure in office. After pleading guilty in October to extortion, Janiszewski is now the star witness for the federal government in Davila-Colon's trial, where he has testified that she passed money to him from Sandoval in 1999 and on other occasions in the mid-90s. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 620 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2003 at 07:21:20 Subject: 'Torch' to control a patronage pie 'Torch' to control a patronage pie Hefty billings, with contracts to hand out Jersey Journal Friday, May 30, 2003 By Robert Rudolph Newhouse News Service When U.S. District Judge Dennis Cavanaugh announced last week that he was appointing his former sponsor - former U.S. Sen. Robert Torricelli - to serve as a "special master" overseeing a $400 million toxic waste cleanup in Jersey City, to some it looked like a favor to an old friend. Torricelli had championed Cavanaugh's appointment to the federal bench in New Jersey, and Honeywell International, the firm Cavanaugh has ordered to conduct the cleanup, was a major contributor to Torricelli's campaigns. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 621 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2003 at 07:23:15 Subject: New MLK center called 'political baseball' New MLK center called 'political baseball' Jersey Journal Friday, May 30, 2003 By Earl Morgan Journal staff writer Jersey City Ward F Councilwoman Viola Richardson accused her colleagues of trying to turn the opening of the Martin Luther King Drive Community Center into a "political baseball." Richardson made her accusation during Wednesday's City Council meeting after the council voted to table a resolution to request proposals to award leases to nonprofit agencies to rent space in the building. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 622 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2003 at 13:51:34 Subject: HARVEY DUCKS CHICKEN HARVEY DUCKS CHICKEN Steven Glazer -email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com Jersey City-The Keystone Kouncil met in a session strictly for the birds as electronic crows cawed, pigeons cooed, chickens clucked and Harvey Smith ducked an invitation to debate his opponents in the 31st District Senate race. The feathered invitation to the debate was sent by the campaign of Vincent Militello of Bayonne. Militello is a former assistant Hudson County Prosecutor running as an independent against Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham and Harvey Smith for the Senate Seat left vacant by Joseph Charles. Militello’s chicken, a young campaign volunteer dressed in a bright yellow chicken suit, waited patiently through the entire session for an answer from Smith that never quite came. Smith ignored Militello’s campaign workers and the campaign chicken. Mayor Cunningham has agreed to the three-way debate on condition that Smith also participate. But so far Chicken Smith has ducked out of the debate, effectively giving the chicken the bird. The three-way encounter now appears unlikely to occur before the primary election. Few onlookers in the Council Chambers could resist making clucking chicken sounds from time to time during the meeting, while loudspeakers played an endless loop tape recording of crow caws, meant to drive away pigeons, lending a twilight zone flavor to the evening. The twilight zone atmosphere of the final days of the primary election campaign pervades Hudson County. Many observers agree that this campaign is strictly for the birds marking a low point even in Hudson County, long known for hardball politics and dirty pool. There have even been references to the ghosts of birds past, like the pigeons released to mark the 9/11 commemoration, mercifully forgotten until this primary election heated up. Militello’s chicken has at least injected a bit of humor in an otherwise toxic atmosphere. But Militello’s youthful and idealistic volunteers ran into Hudson County Democratic Organization etiquette and a stiff dose of reality therapy. After avoiding the chicken during the entire lengthy meeting, Harvey was forced into a confrontation with Militello’s volunteers who lay in ambush until the bitter end. The patient campaign workers who say they tried to get Harvey to commit to participate in the three-way debate. One of the workers, Mircalla Wozniak, said Harvey appeared to relent. Wozniak then asked “can we call your campaign office tomorrow to set up a time and place.” Harvey reportedly told her “Call my campaign.” The idealistic young woman took that for a “yes” and said she believed that meant that Harvey had agreed to the debate. Militello’s campaign office says that they are still attempting to contact Harvey and are waiting to receive a return call from his campaign office. Those experienced in Hudson County politics would no doubt be quick to inform the volunteers that their chicken is in the mail. Welcome to HCDO politics, kids, and meet Uncle Harvey. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 623 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2003 at 16:42:47 Subject: NAACP BLASTS HCDO’S RACIST CAMPAIGN MAILERS NAACP BLASTS HCDO’S RACIST CAMPAIGN MAILERS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 624 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2003 at 18:06:42 Subject: Janiszewski testimony leads corruption trial Janiszewski testimony leads corruption trial Star Ledger Friday, May 30, 2003 BY JOHN P. MARTIN AND WILLIAM KLEINKNECHT Star-Ledger Staff Robert Janiszewski, the once-powerful Hudson County executive who was snared in a corruption sting, debuted as a government witness yesterday -- and a defense attorney promised to make his appearance neither brief nor easy. Janiszewski, a Democrat, was the first witness called in the corruption trial of longtime Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon. She faces charges of mail fraud and aiding extortion for allegedly funneling $10,000 in cash payments to the county executive from Oscar Sandoval, a psychiatrist who won more than $2 million in county contracts. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 625 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2003 at 18:20:18 Subject: Peter Weiss: Ex-exec's worrisome timetable Ex-exec's worrisome timetable Peter Weiss Jersey Journal Friday, May 30, 2003 Normally, less than one week before a contested primary, Hudson County pols would be firmly focused on the campaign. But these days, they can't be blamed for casting eyes and ears toward Newark, where the trial of county Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon is entering the "Ohmygoodness" phase with the testimony of former County Executive Robert Janiszewski. Davila-Colon is accused of passing bribes from Dr. Oscar Sandoval, a psychiatrist who held county contracts, to Janiszewski. The former county executive is a government witness who made a deal for a lighter sentence after admitting taking bribes from Sandoval and others. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dirt Bag Glazer posted Message 626 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2003 at 23:58:21 Subject: Re: NAACP BLASTS HCDO’S RACIST CAMPAIGN MAILERS : NAACP BLASTS HCDO’S RACIST CAMPAIGN MAILERS Wow, Glenn is playing the race card. Stop the presses! This is real news! Glenn would be dumb if he were Chinese. Hey dirt bag, Found the guts to call Harv, "Uncle Harvey" to his face yet? Get back under your rock, slime ball. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dirt Bag Glazer posted Message 627 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2003 at 00:01:31 Subject: Re: HARVEY DUCKS CHICKEN : HARVEY DUCKS CHICKEN : Steven Glazer -email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com : Jersey City-The Keystone Kouncil met in a session strictly for the birds as electronic crows cawed, pigeons cooed, chickens clucked and Harvey Smith ducked an invitation : to debate his opponents in the 31st District Senate race. The feathered invitation to the debate was sent by the campaign of Vincent Militello of Bayonne. Militello is a former : assistant Hudson County Prosecutor running as an independent against Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham and Harvey Smith for the Senate Seat left vacant by : Joseph Charles. : Militello’s chicken, a young campaign volunteer dressed in a bright yellow chicken suit, waited patiently through the entire session for an answer from Smith that never quite : came. Smith ignored Militello’s campaign workers and the campaign chicken. Mayor Cunningham has agreed to the three-way debate on condition that Smith also : participate. But so far Chicken Smith has ducked out of the debate, effectively giving the chicken the bird. The three-way encounter now appears unlikely to occur before : the primary election. : Few onlookers in the Council Chambers could resist making clucking chicken sounds from time to time during the meeting, while loudspeakers played an endless loop tape : recording of crow caws, meant to drive away pigeons, lending a twilight zone flavor to the evening. The twilight zone atmosphere of the final days of the primary election : campaign pervades Hudson County. Many observers agree that this campaign is strictly for the birds marking a low point even in Hudson County, long known for hardball : politics and dirty pool. There have even been references to the ghosts of birds past, like the pigeons released to mark the 9/11 commemoration, mercifully forgotten until this : primary election heated up. Militello’s chicken has at least injected a bit of humor in an otherwise toxic atmosphere. : But Militello’s youthful and idealistic volunteers ran into Hudson County Democratic Organization etiquette and a stiff dose of reality therapy. After avoiding the chicken : during the entire lengthy meeting, Harvey was forced into a confrontation with Militello’s volunteers who lay in ambush until the bitter end. The patient campaign workers : who say they tried to get Harvey to commit to participate in the three-way debate. One of the workers, Mircalla Wozniak, said Harvey appeared to relent. Wozniak then : asked “can we call your campaign office tomorrow to set up a time and place.” Harvey reportedly told her “Call my campaign.” The idealistic young woman took that for a : “yes” and said she believed that meant that Harvey had agreed to the debate. : Militello’s campaign office says that they are still attempting to contact Harvey and are waiting to receive a return call from his campaign office. Those experienced in Hudson : County politics would no doubt be quick to inform the volunteers that their chicken is in the mail. Welcome to HCDO politics, kids, and meet Uncle Harvey. : This is the same Glenn Cunningham who wouldn't debate DeGise in the mayor's race that you're talking about right scum bucket> ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 628 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2003 at 00:23:40 Subject: Re: NAACP BLASTS HCDO’S RACIST CAMPAIGN MAILERS : : NAACP BLASTS HCDO’S RACIST CAMPAIGN MAILERS : Wow, Glenn is playing the race card. Stop the presses! This is real news! Glenn would be dumb if he were Chinese. Hey dirt bag, Found the guts to call Harv, "Uncle Harvey" to his face yet? Get back under your rock, slime ball. Keep reading Urban Times News. It will improve your mind. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 629 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2003 at 00:25:37 Subject: Re: HARVEY DUCKS CHICKEN : : HARVEY DUCKS CHICKEN : : Steven Glazer -email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com : : Jersey City-The Keystone Kouncil met in a session strictly for the birds as electronic crows cawed, pigeons cooed, chickens clucked and Harvey Smith ducked an invitation : : to debate his opponents in the 31st District Senate race. The feathered invitation to the debate was sent by the campaign of Vincent Militello of Bayonne. Militello is a former : : assistant Hudson County Prosecutor running as an independent against Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham and Harvey Smith for the Senate Seat left vacant by : : Joseph Charles. : : Militello’s chicken, a young campaign volunteer dressed in a bright yellow chicken suit, waited patiently through the entire session for an answer from Smith that never quite : : came. Smith ignored Militello’s campaign workers and the campaign chicken. Mayor Cunningham has agreed to the three-way debate on condition that Smith also : : participate. But so far Chicken Smith has ducked out of the debate, effectively giving the chicken the bird. The three-way encounter now appears unlikely to occur before : : the primary election. : : Few onlookers in the Council Chambers could resist making clucking chicken sounds from time to time during the meeting, while loudspeakers played an endless loop tape : : recording of crow caws, meant to drive away pigeons, lending a twilight zone flavor to the evening. The twilight zone atmosphere of the final days of the primary election : : campaign pervades Hudson County. Many observers agree that this campaign is strictly for the birds marking a low point even in Hudson County, long known for hardball : : politics and dirty pool. There have even been references to the ghosts of birds past, like the pigeons released to mark the 9/11 commemoration, mercifully forgotten until this : : primary election heated up. Militello’s chicken has at least injected a bit of humor in an otherwise toxic atmosphere. : : But Militello’s youthful and idealistic volunteers ran into Hudson County Democratic Organization etiquette and a stiff dose of reality therapy. After avoiding the chicken : : during the entire lengthy meeting, Harvey was forced into a confrontation with Militello’s volunteers who lay in ambush until the bitter end. The patient campaign workers : : who say they tried to get Harvey to commit to participate in the three-way debate. One of the workers, Mircalla Wozniak, said Harvey appeared to relent. Wozniak then : : asked “can we call your campaign office tomorrow to set up a time and place.” Harvey reportedly told her “Call my campaign.” The idealistic young woman took that for a : : “yes” and said she believed that meant that Harvey had agreed to the debate. : : Militello’s campaign office says that they are still attempting to contact Harvey and are waiting to receive a return call from his campaign office. Those experienced in Hudson : : County politics would no doubt be quick to inform the volunteers that their chicken is in the mail. Welcome to HCDO politics, kids, and meet Uncle Harvey. : : This is the same Glenn Cunningham who wouldn't debate DeGise in the mayor's race that you're talking about right scum bucket> For your own sake we urge you to continue reading Urban Times News. It will improve your mind. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ricardo Kaulessar posted Message 630 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2003 at 06:16:24 Subject: ONE STRIKE, YOU’RE OUT! JC HOUSING TENANTS RECEIVE FOWL PLAY FROM BAD POLICY If baseball had the one strike, you’re out rule, the game would probably be finished a lot faster - a fan’s dream. But for the tenants of Jersey City’s housing projects, this is no game but a literal nightmare. A meeting on May 7th inside the Jersey City Housing Authority (JCHA) meeting room at the Marion Gardens housing projects was held to address the issue of the HUD One Strike Policy. Tenants from Marion Gardens and other housing projects across the city attended the meeting. There were local ministers from the Interministerial Alliance, officials from the Housing Authority and community activists also in attendance. The One Strike Policy was created in 1988 during the Reagan Administration to combat the rampant drug dealing and crack epidemic that especially plagued housing projects in the United States during that time. But the policy has been a lighting rod for controversy since its inception. The policy requires that any tenant of public and assisted housing must agree when signing their resident lease that any criminal activity engaged by tenant, any member of the tenant’s household or a guest are grounds for eviction of the entire household. However, various factors are supposed to taken into consideration before evicting tenants such the seriousness of the offense and whether or not the offender committed the offense on the premises. Alternate sanctions would then be carried out such as removal of the offender from the household if he/she were not the head of household, a ban from the premises and/or rehabilitation. According to Aneesah Abdullah, a teacher at Snyder High School who was at the meeting on behalf of tenants from the city’s various housing projects who were penalized unfairly, the policy has taken effect in severe measure the past two years with few of the sanctions as required by the policy even being invoked. The center of much controversy, as addressed during the meeting, was whether or not the policy has been implemented equally from resident to resident. Tenants who have been evicted charged that they were forced out for the flimsiest of reasons, while some their fellow tenants who were raided by police and caught with the drugs on the premises were allowed to stay. Other complaints included the Jersey City Housing Authority doing a poor job of educating tenants on the One Strike Policy itself and especially the due process rights to which are they are entitled under the policy, and that there is no assistance provided to help evicted tenants, particularly the elderly, find new housing. Abdullah, who has spent the past three months organizing the meetings on city housing sites where tenants aired their grievances about the policy, said there were positive signs during the Marion Gardens meeting from the new JCHA interim director Robert Graham who was in attendance. “What I heard from the interim director is that (Jersey City Housing Authority) was going to revise the policy, take a look at some of the issues, and they’re going to also take a look at some of the people who were evicted to see if they were due processed in a correct way and if not, some time down the road, maybe bring some of those people back,” said Abdullah. In fact, there are talks underway to create an advisory committee consisting of Abdullah; local activist Virginia Miller; Reverends Kevin Agee, Thomas Robinson, and George Maize of the Interministerial Alliance; Jersey City NAACP branch president Kabili Tayari, Ron Scott, and tenant representatives from the housing projects who will meet with the Housing Authority to assist in the revision of the policy. Robert Graham, who was named on April 14th to fill the interim director position left vacant by the recent demise of former director Robert Rigby, stated in a recent interview with the Urban Times News that it will be sixty to eighty days before a new One Strike policy is set. Graham stated that after meeting with the soon-to-be-formed advisory board, he would have to go through the Board of Commissioners as well JCHA attorneys, housing police, site managers before putting the revisions to a vote. He will also confer with the directors of other urban Housing Authorities within the state to find out about their respective approaches to the One Strike Policy. The move toward revisions and possible reinstatement of residence will be good news to Yvette Bryant and Rasheeda Jackson, two of the many victims of what many housing and community experts across the country have called a regressive and racist policy that punishes the innocent more than the guilty. Bryant, a 39 year old single mother of four who lived in the Marion Gardens Housing Complex for eight years until her eviction in April of this year. What lead to the eviction was the arrest of her son, Daivon, who was eighteen when he was arrested on Pavonia Avenue in June 2002 on a drug charge. Bryant, whose son was on her lease until she had him taken off the lease one month later, claimed that she was contacted in the fall of 2002 by the JCHA that she had to attend an informal hearing before housing management to determine eviction. She was sure that she was immune but that was not the case as she ended up fighting the termination of her tenancy before Housing Court in February 2003 and lost. Bryant now resides in Newark with two of her children, hoping that she will be able to return to live in Jersey City where her other two children still reside along with many of her relatives, and where she currently works as a Pathmark employee. She also pointed out the unfair application of the One Strike Policy in citing the example of some people whom she knew were able to avoid eviction when they were charged with more serious offenses than hers, and the hypocritical presence of the current Marion Gardens site manager. “You have someone like Donna Chandler, who treated me and many other tenants unfairly, who was herself was a former drug addict and drug dealer who was dealing out of her apartment when she lived in the projects, yet had pulled some strings and came back to become a manager. And I know a great deal more who have done worse and I’m going to give names.” Meanwhile, Rasheeda Jackson still lives in the Lafayette Gardens Housing Complex where she has spent most of her life, with her three children. But now rather than being the tenant of her own apartment, she had to move in with her mother, who lives across the hall. Her eviction in January 2003 was the result of her brother’s arrest on drug possession in February of 2002. According to Jackson, a single mother of three currently employed as an officer at the Hudson County Juvenile Detention Center, her brother wasn’t a resident of the Marion Gardens projects but had given her address and apartment number in previous arrests as his place of residence. Jackson believes that they used his criminal record in evicting her along with her three children. After her brother’s February 2002 arrest, Jackson didn’t have a hearing with JCHA officials until July 2002, when she was told that if she agreed to the eviction she would be in their records as a tenant leaving in good standing, or she could find her eviction in Housing Court. Jackson chose the latter and in December 2002, the judge in the case ruled in the Housing Authority’s favor. By January 2003, she had to move out of her apartment. Like Yvette Bryant, Jackson not only had been a firsthand witness to the arbitrary enforcement of the One Strike Policy but also was a victim of the lack of education on the subject. “I lived in my own apartment since 1996, about six years on the lease before I was evicted and there never was an actual meeting on the subject. They would spend a hot minute.” Aneesah Abdullah hopes that there will be change as soon as possible as she sees that more of these tenants each week being subjected to quick removal from their residences. Herself a former resident of Jersey City housing projects for most of her forty-eight years and a parent, she has seen how the One Strike Policy has affected families and hopes that Jersey City Housing Authority will step up to the plate and make the necessary changes and educate tenants on those changes. “Before you initiate that you’re going to evict a tenant, please be mindful that where are these people going to go, please be mindful that you should offer some help,” scolded Abdullah on the subject which also brought out the teacher on her. “The tenants are not being educated. They need to understand the policy and if you have senior citizens who live in the complexes that don’t have a high school diploma or a grammar school diploma, or haven’t sat down and the policy hasn’t been broken down to them, how are they going to understand what they are reading or what they’re signing. So to me, it was a set-up, it was a conspiracy, and so this is the result.” For more information on upcoming JCHA meetings and the One Strike Policy, please contact Aneesah Abdullah at (201) 780-5564 and the Jersey City Housing Authority at (201) 547-6600 ***************** End Of Article ****************** HACKSMITH posted Message 631 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2003 at 07:11:30 Subject: Re: Peter Weiss: Ex-exec's worrisome timetable : Ex-exec's worrisome timetable : Peter Weiss : Jersey Journal : Friday, May 30, 2003 : Normally, less than one week before a contested primary, Hudson County pols would be firmly focused on the campaign. : But these days, they can't be blamed for casting eyes and ears toward Newark, where the trial of county Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon is entering the "Ohmygoodness" phase with the testimony of former County Executive Robert Janiszewski. : : Davila-Colon is accused of passing bribes from Dr. Oscar Sandoval, a psychiatrist who held county contracts, to Janiszewski. The former county executive is a government witness who made a deal for a lighter sentence after admitting taking bribes from Sandoval and others. : . . . : For the complete article, see the Link. WHAT DOES THE COLON TRIAL HAVE TO DO WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF THIS CITY? WILL THERE BE INVESTIGATIONS OF FORMER MAYOR SCHUNDLER AND OTHER POLITICIANS AS WELL AS THOSE CURRENTLY IN CITY HALL WHO MIGHT HAVE DEALT WITH COLON DURING HER TIME IN OFFICE ? OR ARE THOSE ISSUE TOO SENSITIVE AND TOO CLOSE TO WEISS AND THE JERSEY JOURNAL! AND AS FAR AS WEISS' OTHER ITEMS ON MAYOR CUNNINGHAM AND GERALD MCCANN. IT'S GOOD MR. WEISS THAT YOU FOUND SOME "FUNNY" AS WELL AS "INCISIVE INFO", JUST WISH YOU WOULD MAKE THE ATTEMPT TO FIND SOME DIRT ON YOUR FRIENDS HARVEY SMITH AND TOM DEGISE. IF PETER WEISS NEEDS ANY HELP DOING HIS JOB, THEN HE SHOULD CONTACT ME AT HACKSMITH1872@AOL.COM. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 632 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2003 at 08:55:57 Subject: NJN News Video: Michael Aron Looks at the State Senate Race Michael Aron looks at the contest for the Democrat nomination for State Senate candidate in the 31st District (Jersey City / Bayonne). Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham faces Council President Harvey Smith and former Hudson County Assistant Prosecutor Vincent Militello. Michael Aron talks with State Senator Bernard Kenny about the odds against Harvey Smith and if a loss by Smith will be a torpedo to the prestige of Bayonne Mayor Joe Doria. To view the video, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 633 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2003 at 11:46:47 Subject: Jersey Journal: At a glance: Alleged payoffs to Janiszewski At a glance: Alleged payoffs to Janiszewski Jersey Journal Saturday, May 31, 2003 Here's a look at the people who Robert Janiszewski said paid him bribes during his tenure in office. The former Hudson County executive testified yesterday. None of them have been charged with any wrongdoing: . . . For the rest of the article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 634 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2003 at 11:49:55 Subject: Peter Weiss: Primary may not settle much Primary may not settle much Peter Weiss Jersey Journal Saturday, May 31, 2003 The Democratic nomination for state Senate in the 31st District is Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham's to lose. Can he? Cunningham maintains he'll be an easy winner against Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith and Bayonne attorney Vincent Militello. He says polls show him with tremendous popularity in Jersey City and holding his own in the Bayonne part of the district. . . . For the rest of the piece, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 635 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2003 at 14:06:50 Subject: Star Ledger: Hudson corruption trial: So much money, where to hide it all? Hudson corruption trial: So much money, where to hide it all? Star Ledger Saturday, May 31, 2003 BY ANA M. ALAYA Star-Ledger Staff Former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski testified yesterday that envelopes bulging with cash bribes flowed to him at such a routine pace that he had trouble hiding it all. In his second day on the stand, Janiszewski, a once-powerful Democratic Party boss, described how he began stuffing the envelopes in his desk at work or a file at home. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dirt Bag Glazer posted Message 636 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2003 at 14:12:25 Subject: Re: HARVEY DUCKS CHICKEN : : : HARVEY DUCKS CHICKEN : : : Steven Glazer -email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com : : : Jersey City-The Keystone Kouncil met in a session strictly for the birds as electronic crows cawed, pigeons cooed, chickens clucked and Harvey Smith ducked an invitation : : : to debate his opponents in the 31st District Senate race. The feathered invitation to the debate was sent by the campaign of Vincent Militello of Bayonne. Militello is a former : : : assistant Hudson County Prosecutor running as an independent against Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham and Harvey Smith for the Senate Seat left vacant by : : : Joseph Charles. : : : Militello’s chicken, a young campaign volunteer dressed in a bright yellow chicken suit, waited patiently through the entire session for an answer from Smith that never quite : : : came. Smith ignored Militello’s campaign workers and the campaign chicken. Mayor Cunningham has agreed to the three-way debate on condition that Smith also : : : participate. But so far Chicken Smith has ducked out of the debate, effectively giving the chicken the bird. The three-way encounter now appears unlikely to occur before : : : the primary election. : : : Few onlookers in the Council Chambers could resist making clucking chicken sounds from time to time during the meeting, while loudspeakers played an endless loop tape : : : recording of crow caws, meant to drive away pigeons, lending a twilight zone flavor to the evening. The twilight zone atmosphere of the final days of the primary election : : : campaign pervades Hudson County. Many observers agree that this campaign is strictly for the birds marking a low point even in Hudson County, long known for hardball : : : politics and dirty pool. There have even been references to the ghosts of birds past, like the pigeons released to mark the 9/11 commemoration, mercifully forgotten until this : : : primary election heated up. Militello’s chicken has at least injected a bit of humor in an otherwise toxic atmosphere. : : : But Militello’s youthful and idealistic volunteers ran into Hudson County Democratic Organization etiquette and a stiff dose of reality therapy. After avoiding the chicken : : : during the entire lengthy meeting, Harvey was forced into a confrontation with Militello’s volunteers who lay in ambush until the bitter end. The patient campaign workers : : : who say they tried to get Harvey to commit to participate in the three-way debate. One of the workers, Mircalla Wozniak, said Harvey appeared to relent. Wozniak then : : : asked “can we call your campaign office tomorrow to set up a time and place.” Harvey reportedly told her “Call my campaign.” The idealistic young woman took that for a : : : “yes” and said she believed that meant that Harvey had agreed to the debate. : : : Militello’s campaign office says that they are still attempting to contact Harvey and are waiting to receive a return call from his campaign office. Those experienced in Hudson : : : County politics would no doubt be quick to inform the volunteers that their chicken is in the mail. Welcome to HCDO politics, kids, and meet Uncle Harvey. : : : This is the same Glenn Cunningham who wouldn't debate DeGise in the mayor's race that you're talking about right scum bucket> : : For your own sake we urge you to continue reading Urban Times News. It will improve your mind. Glad to see you follow my posts, how does it feel to be Bobby Jackson's little white boy toy? Your mom must be so proud! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bye Bye Joe Barry posted Message 637 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 08:24:59 Subject: Bribers of Janiszewski - COOPERATING WITH GOVERNMENT Janiszewski lists payers of bribes at trial of Colon Saturday, May 31, 2003 By PETER J. SAMPSON STAFF WRITER NEWARK - Former Hudson County Executive Robert C. Janiszewski on Friday said waterfront developer Joseph Barry and political consultant Paul Byrne were among seven people who paid him tens of thousands of dollars in bribes for favors. The revelation came during questioning by Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey D. Clark on the second day of testimony in the corruption trial of longtime Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon. Colon is facing charges of mail fraud and aiding and abetting extortion for allegedly delivering two $5,000 cash payments to Janiszewski from her former boyfriend, psychiatrist Oscar Sandoval, in 1999. In return for the payments, Janiszewski said, Sandoval's contracts to provide psychiatric services to the county jail and hospital were renewed and expanded. Janiszewski, the once-powerful Democrat who served six years in the Assembly and 16 as Hudson's top elected official, pleaded guilty in October to receiving $20,000 in bribes from Sandoval. As part of a deal, he said, he agreed to work with the FBI and secretly recorded conversations with associates in the hope that his cooperation will win him a more lenient sentence. Detailing a litany of "other illegal acts," Janiszewski disclosed that he accepted cash payments "directly" from Barry, president of the Applied Companies, a major developer of housing in Hoboken, Jersey City, and North Bergen. Janiszewski also said that on two occasions before his cooperation, Byrne - his boyhood friend and confidant - acted as an intermediary for payments of $30,000 and $20,000 from Barry in connection with his developments. Janiszewski described the payments as "essentially a kickback" for approval of low-interest loans and grants and said the agreement called for an "ultimate amount of $305,000" to be split between him and Byrne. He also referred to the payments as "bribes." Barry, whose Hoboken offices were raided by the FBI last year, has denied any wrongdoing. Neither he nor his attorney could be reached for comment Friday. Byrne had only one comment on the testimony: "This is the political equivalent of John Gotti ratting out his bookies." Janiszewski said he also accepted periodic cash payments of $2,000 to $3,000 from Byrne, bond underwriter John "Jay" Booth, and three accountants who had county contracts. Janiszewski said Byrne "fashioned himself as a government consultant" who helped clients obtain county contracts and grants and access to Janiszewski. Janiszewski testified that Booth paid him a total of $9,000 over the years in connection with bond underwriting deals, including the financing of construction of the county jail. He said Booth acted once as an intermediary for an engineering firm. Booth could not be reached for comment Friday. Prosecutors, who sought to keep the vendors' names secret but were overruled by the judge on Thursday, declined to answer any questions about their status. On Thursday, they said SOME WERE COOPERATING and others might never be charged. Janiszewski detailed the payoffs he received from Sandoval, who began cooperating with the FBI in June 1999 and helped snare Janiszewski. Accustomed to receiving campaign checks from Sandoval, Janiszewski said he was surprised when he met Colon at her political club in 1996 and she handed him an envelope with $10,000 cash. She told him the money was from Sandoval and that he could do whatever he wanted with it, he testified. Although it wasn't his first bribe, Janiszewski said, the transaction was "burned into my memory" because it was the first time he had accepted cash from another elected official. It also meant Colon knew he was on the take, he said. Sandoval once tried to give him an envelope in his county office, but fearful of being "exposed," Janiszewski said, he encouraged the doctor to take it back by writing a note on a pad saying something like "wrong time, wrong place, not now." Janiszewski said he avoided Sandoval for more than a year after that until Colon told him that the doctor wanted to get back in his good graces. "She asked me if she could be the liaison between Dr. Sandoval and I," he said, and believing that "Sandoval would not intentionally hurt Ms. Colon," he agreed. Shortly after that, he said, Colon passed him envelopes with $5,000 from Sandoval in September and October of 1999, first in the hallway outside his office in the old county courthouse and then at a political event. The trial was recessed until Tuesday, when Janiszewski is to resume his testimony. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 638 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 09:02:23 Subject: Star Ledger: Legislative primary features big names and intrigue Hudson County -- a Democratic bastion -- has erupted in political civil war. Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham is seeking election to the state Senate, a move that could make him a major force in New Jersey politics. But U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez is backing another candidate in hopes of remaining Hudson County's reigning kingmaker. . . . 31ST DISTRICT Sen. Joseph Charles (D-Hudson) is retiring to become a Superior Court judge. Cunningham, the mayor of the second-largest city in the state, wants to replace him and hold two powerful posts, like Newark Mayor Sharpe James. Those aspirations are meeting stiff resistance from the Hudson County Democratic organization and from Menendez, the third-most powerful Democrat in the House. The congressman doesn't want to lose control of his home turf to a Democratic rival. He's backing Jersey City Council President Harvey Smith, a high school administrator. The county party, which has been feuding with the mayor for more than a year, is committing more than $1 million to finance the campaign of Smith and his running mates. Cunningham has his own key backers -- including Sen. Raymond Lesniak (D-Union) and former U.S. Sen. Robert Torricelli, who recently gave the mayor a $10,000 contribution. Cunningham, a former police officer and former U.S. marshal has promised to fight for more state funds for the city. His advantage is instant name recognition in a district where Jersey City residents make up 64 percent of registered Democrats. Initial polls put him far ahead. Cunningham is running with two Assembly candidates and the slate's popularity threatens Bayonne Mayor Joseph Doria, the former Assembly speaker. He and his running mate, freshman Assemblywoman Elba Perez-Cinciarelli, are viewed as vulnerable. Gov. James E. McGreevey, who suffers from low poll numbers statewide but is still popular among Hudson Democrats, gave the party's slate a boost with his endorsement. Vincent Militello, a former assistant Hudson County prosecutor from Bayonne, also is running an aggressive campaign for Senate, and has accused his two opponents of ignoring issues while battling for power and patronage. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aneesah Abdullah posted Message 639 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 10:03:12 Subject: Re: Cunningham Triumphs, Again!!!!! : Cunningham Triumphs, Again!!!!! Just want to add that Mayor Cunningham Is Going To Win This Election And Let's See What Happens's Next Mr. Havey Smith, Where Are You Going Next You Know Thay Are Not Going Too Want You Around Any More So Don't Come Running Back To Us, Have You Forgotten That Degeise Didn't Want You On His Ticket When He Ran For Mayor Well We Did'nt That's Why You Ran To Cunningham Anyway. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. Hassan Abdullah posted Message 640 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 10:22:58 Subject: Re: Cunningham Triumphs, Again!!!!! : Cunningham Triumphs, Again!!!!! My name is Hassan H. Abdullah and I've been a Community Activist for over 25 years I am suprise at my friend Harvey Smith we coach together and raise our children together when Glenn Cunningham put my friend Harvey on his ticket in 2001 Harvey should be more loyal to him when the others didn't want him I have not talk with my frined in awhile but it's time so Harvey reach out to me soon so we can talk man and don't think that you are to big to call me either because I remember when Mr. Harvey you know my number. Thank you Your Friend Hassan God Bless You And Your Family ***************** End Of Article ****************** and waiting and waiting............. posted Message 641 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 11:44:59 Subject: >We are still waiting......................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by WE ARE WAITING TO SEE YOUR REPLY. on May 28, 2003 at 11:46:25: TO JAY STEVENS/ STEVE GLAZER/BOBBY JACKSON THE URBAN TIMES NEWS CLAIMS THAT IT TELLS THE TRUTH BUT, WHOSE TRUTH DOES IT TELL………….WHY HAVE WE NOT READ ONE THING ABOUT THE PATTI LABELLE/LOWES SCANDEL. Do you feel that theft in the name of charity is acceptable…………we are all waiting for your reply! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOWES SCANDEL? posted Message 642 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 13:02:15 Subject: LOWES SCANDEL? LOWES SCANDEL? Wasn't he a silent film comedian? : Posted by WE ARE WAITING TO SEE YOUR REPLY. on May 28, 2003 at 11:46:25: : TO JAY STEVENS/ STEVE GLAZER/BOBBY JACKSON : THE URBAN TIMES NEWS CLAIMS THAT IT TELLS THE TRUTH BUT, WHOSE TRUTH DOES IT TELL………….WHY HAVE WE NOT READ ONE THING ABOUT THE PATTI LABELLE/LOWES SCANDEL. : Do you feel that theft in the name of charity is acceptable…………we are all waiting for your reply! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 643 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 13:06:14 Subject: Jersey City Reporter Three's company Candidates vie for nomination in 31st District Assembly, Senate Jersey City Reporter Donald M. Kelly & Al Sullivan Reporter staff writers June 01, 2003 Voters in the 31st district, comprising a major portion of Jersey City and Bayonne, will choose between three candidates to be the Democratic candidate for the district's state senator. The three candidates are current Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham, Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith, and Bayonne attorney Vincent Militello. The primary election will be held Wednesday, June 3 at polling places in both cities from 6 a.m. to 8 p.m. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 644 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 13:08:56 Subject: Jersey City Reporter: The funky chicken The funky chicken Council debates community center, gets barnyard visitor Jersey City Reporter Donald M. Kelly Reporter staff writer June 01, 2003 As members of the Jersey City Council debated the opening of the Martin Luther King Drive Community Center Wednesday night, a five-foot yellow chicken stood in the back of the council chambers. Accompanied by Mircalla Wozniak from the Vincent Militello for State Senate campaign, the chicken wore a sign that read "Why won't you debate, Mr. Smith? Are you chicken?" The sign was addressed to council president L. Harvey Smith, who is running for the Democratic nomination for State Senate in the 31st District, along with Bayonne attorney Militello and Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham. Both Cunningham and Smith had declined to debate publicly with Militello on Channel 12 television. The chicken eventually confronted Smith, who had his picture taken with the avian protestor. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 645 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 13:13:19 Subject: Jersey City Reporter: "Rep. Bob Menendez (D-13th Dist.) seems to be mending political fences with Cunningham, before an expected Cunningham primary victory." . . . Rep. Bob Menendez (D-13th Dist.) seems to be mending political fences with Cunningham, before an expected Cunningham primary victory. Several statements issued out of Menendez's office hinted at peacemaking. This is a wise political move. If Cunningham wins, he will carry significant clout. Better to make overtures now than later when such moves might be seen as groveling. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** YOUR AN A- WHOLE! posted Message 646 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 17:50:23 Subject: Re: LOWES SCANDEL? : LOWES SCANDEL? : Wasn't he a silent film comedian? : : : : Do you feel that theft in the name of charity is acceptable…………we are all waiting for your reply! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I DOUBT BOB WILL EVER MEND W/ GLENN posted Message 647 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 17:52:50 Subject: Re: Jersey City Reporter: "Rep. Bob Menendez (D-13th Dist.) seems to be mending political fences with Cunningham, before an expected Cunningham primary victory." : KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE BUT KEEP THE CONMAN EVEN CLOSER...BOB WILL GIVE IT TO GLENN ONE DAY! : . . . : Rep. Bob Menendez (D-13th Dist.) seems to be mending political fences with Cunningham, before an expected Cunningham primary victory. Several statements issued out of Menendez's office hinted at peacemaking. This is a wise political move. If Cunningham wins, he will carry significant clout. Better to make overtures now than later when such moves might be seen as groveling. : . . . : For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dirt Bag Glazer posted Message 648 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 18:18:54 Subject: Re: Cunningham Triumphs, Again!!!!! : : Cunningham Triumphs, Again!!!!! : Just want to add that Mayor Cunningham Is Going To Win This Election And Let's See What Happens's Next Mr. Havey Smith, Where Are You Going Next You Know Thay Are Not Going Too Want You Around Any More So Don't Come Running Back To Us, Have You Forgotten That Degeise Didn't Want You On His Ticket When He Ran For Mayor Well We Did'nt That's Why You Ran To Cunningham Anyway. Will someone familiar with ebonics kindly translate the last two posts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WE ARE WAITING ,WHY SO QUIET BOYS? posted Message 649 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2003 at 23:15:24 Subject: YES THEFT! : : Do you feel that theft in the name of charity is acceptable…………we are all waiting for your reply! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Missy posted Message 650 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 06:53:56 Subject: SLIM TATICS BY CUNNINGHAM! who paid for the ad in today's JC reporter listing the "schedule" for Channel 1? I sure didn't see "Cunningham for Senate" listed and what a coincidence, 2 days before the election and that's the first time I've ever seen Ch1 listings. And what listings they were - every other show was the State of the Campaign, uh, I mean City speech. And the rest were the myriad photo ops that Glenn and his gang flock to. The HCDO should have demanded equal time. At the very least, the council should examine city expenditures on that little venture. And what about the Extra supermarket ad - at least they owned up to it being a political advertisement. Guess they know which side of the bread their butter is on. Too bad Vinnie doesn't have a chance. Harvey's no bargain, but at least he isn't Glenn/Bobby/Joe. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 651 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 08:13:29 Subject: Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District Urban Times News May 23-May 29, 2003 It is agreed upon throughout the state that Governor James McGreevey is not succeeding. In fact, The Jersey Journal pre- sented a story entitled "McGreevey's poll performance: Mr. Negative on all 9 issues." The story then went on to list the Governor's shortcomings by way of statewide voter dis- approval with negative ratings related to the state budget, education, the economy and jobs, auto insurance, taxes in general and property taxes.' This is what the people of 'New Jersey have to say! Obviously, Mr. McGreevey has failed. What's worse for the 31st District, is that he has deprived us of essential monetary relief more than any other district in the state. This year the taxpayers of Jersey City will receive only $2 million. That is more than an 80% decrease in tax relief since last year! In comparison, much smaller towns such as Union City ($4 million) and Harrison ($3 million) received significantly more funding per resident. Harrison, with a population of only 14,400 will receive $207 per person in distressed cities aide, while Jersey City's population of 243,000 will receive only $8 per person. Since Governor McGreevey has been in office, Jersey City's state aid has plummeted from $16 million to $2 million, while our legislators stood by and collected their multiple government salaries'.!! Bayonne, on the other hand has been labeled as one of the most tax trauma- tized municipalities in the state by the Star Ledger -- this is Joe Doria's home town. He has done nothing to provide relief for the 31st District after 24 years in the legislature! Jim McGreevey and Joe Doria have something in common: they both have done nothing for the areas they are supposed to serve. Now, Governor McGreevey has teamed up with Harvey Smith and Joe Doria to further hurt the 31 st District. Team Smith is in the pocket of the Governor - they will be afraid to stand up to the Governor and stand up for the 31st District, as their records have shown. The Jersey Journal further recog- nizes this problem with, "Until now, Democrats for Hudson County hasn't made McGreevey an issue, even though it has ammunition in the state's slashing of $8 mil- lion in Distressed Cities Aid to Jersey City and for other budget cuts that will hurt here. The time has come- make a change on June 3 rd. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 652 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 08:21:27 Subject: Smith Deserves to Lose The people of the 31st District have a clear choice. There's Glenn Cunningham who has pledged to fight for the interests of Jersey City and Bayonne. The "alternative" is Harvey Smith who has promised the power brokers that he will help them "take Glenn Cunningham out to the wood shed." It's a disgrace that Harvey Smith blatantly declares himself to be working for groups that want to turn Jersey City into a colony. All living outside of the 31st, they sneer at Jersey City and Bayonne, many priding themselves on having run away from those towns. People of the 31st, serve yourself, not those that want to see you in chains. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aneesah posted Message 653 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 08:35:32 Subject: Re: Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District : Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for : 31st District : Urban Times News : May 23-May 29, 2003 : It is agreed upon throughout the : state that Governor James McGreevey is not : succeeding. In fact, The Jersey Journal pre- : sented a story entitled "McGreevey's poll : performance: Mr. Negative on all 9 issues." : The story then went on to list the Governor's : shortcomings by way of statewide voter dis- : approval with negative ratings related to the : state budget, education, the economy and : jobs, auto insurance, taxes in general and : property taxes.' This is what the people of : 'New Jersey have to say! : Obviously, Mr. McGreevey has : failed. What's worse for the 31st District, is : that he has deprived us of essential monetary : relief more than any other district in the : state. This year the taxpayers of Jersey City : will receive only $2 million. That is more : than an 80% decrease in tax relief since last : year! In comparison, much smaller towns : such as Union City ($4 million) and : Harrison ($3 million) received significantly more funding per resident. : Harrison, with a : population of only 14,400 will receive $207 : per person in distressed cities aide, while : Jersey City's population of 243,000 will receive only $8 per person. : Since Governor McGreevey has : been in office, Jersey City's state aid has : plummeted from $16 million to $2 million, : while our legislators stood by and collected : their multiple government salaries'.!! : Bayonne, on the other hand has : been labeled as one of the most tax trauma- : tized municipalities in the state by the Star : Ledger -- this is Joe Doria's home town. He : has done nothing to provide relief for the : 31st District after 24 years in the legislature! : Jim McGreevey and Joe Doria : have something in common: they both have : done nothing for the areas they are supposed : to serve. : Now, Governor McGreevey has : teamed up with Harvey Smith and Joe Doria : to further hurt the 31 st District. Team Smith : is in the pocket of the Governor - they will : be afraid to stand up to the Governor and : stand up for the 31st District, as their : records have shown. : The Jersey Journal further recog- : nizes this problem with, "Until now, : Democrats for Hudson County hasn't made : McGreevey an issue, even though it has : ammunition in the state's slashing of $8 mil- : lion in Distressed Cities Aid to Jersey City : and for other budget cuts that will hurt here. : The time has come- make a change on June 3 rd. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Greg Baumgarten posted Message 654 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 08:39:12 Subject: Re: Smith Deserves to Lose : The people of the 31st District have a clear choice. There's Glenn Cunningham who has pledged to fight for the interests of Jersey City and Bayonne. The "alternative" is Harvey Smith who has promised the power brokers that he will help them "take Glenn Cunningham out to the wood shed." It's a disgrace that Harvey Smith blatantly declares himself to be working for groups that want to turn Jersey City into a colony. All living outside of the 31st, they sneer at Jersey City and Bayonne, many priding themselves on having run away from those towns. : People of the 31st, serve yourself, not those that want to see you in chains. Why in heavens name would anyone in Bayonne vote for Glenn Cunningham? We have historically fought against Jersey City politicians who have tried to extend their influence to our town. And besides I am a firm believer that a State Senator should have a triple digit IQ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** aneesah posted Message 655 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 08:39:21 Subject: Re: Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District : : Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for : : 31st District : : Urban Times News : : May 23-May 29, 2003 : : It is agreed upon throughout the : : state that Governor James McGreevey is not : : succeeding. In fact, The Jersey Journal pre- This is a sad day for the 31 district, we are going backwards people, what is going on here: : : sented a story entitled "McGreevey's poll : : performance: Mr. Negative on all 9 issues." : : The story then went on to list the Governor's : : shortcomings by way of statewide voter dis- : : approval with negative ratings related to the : : state budget, education, the economy and : : jobs, auto insurance, taxes in general and : : property taxes.' This is what the people of : : 'New Jersey have to say! : : Obviously, Mr. McGreevey has : : failed. What's worse for the 31st District, is : : that he has deprived us of essential monetary : : relief more than any other district in the : : state. This year the taxpayers of Jersey City : : will receive only $2 million. That is more : : than an 80% decrease in tax relief since last : : year! In comparison, much smaller towns : : such as Union City ($4 million) and : : Harrison ($3 million) received significantly more funding per resident. : : Harrison, with a : : population of only 14,400 will receive $207 : : per person in distressed cities aide, while : : Jersey City's population of 243,000 will receive only $8 per person. : : Since Governor McGreevey has : : been in office, Jersey City's state aid has : : plummeted from $16 million to $2 million, : : while our legislators stood by and collected : : their multiple government salaries'.!! : : Bayonne, on the other hand has : : been labeled as one of the most tax trauma- : : tized municipalities in the state by the Star : : Ledger -- this is Joe Doria's home town. He : : has done nothing to provide relief for the : : 31st District after 24 years in the legislature! : : Jim McGreevey and Joe Doria : : have something in common: they both have : : done nothing for the areas they are supposed : : to serve. : : Now, Governor McGreevey has : : teamed up with Harvey Smith and Joe Doria : : to further hurt the 31 st District. Team Smith : : is in the pocket of the Governor - they will : : be afraid to stand up to the Governor and : : stand up for the 31st District, as their : : records have shown. : : The Jersey Journal further recog- : : nizes this problem with, "Until now, : : Democrats for Hudson County hasn't made : : McGreevey an issue, even though it has : : ammunition in the state's slashing of $8 mil- : : lion in Distressed Cities Aid to Jersey City : : and for other budget cuts that will hurt here. : : The time has come- make a change on June 3 rd. ***************** End Of Article ****************** aneesah posted Message 656 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 08:41:48 Subject: Re: Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District : : : Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for : : : 31st District : : : Urban Times News : : : May 23-May 29, 2003 : : : It is agreed upon throughout the : : : state that Governor James McGreevey is not : : : succeeding. In fact, The Jersey Journal pre- : This is a sad day for the 31 district, we are going backwards people, what is going on here: : : : sented a story entitled "McGreevey's poll : : : performance: Mr. Negative on all 9 issues." : : : The story then went on to list the Governor's : : : shortcomings by way of statewide voter dis- : : : approval with negative ratings related to the : : : state budget, education, the economy and : : : jobs, auto insurance, taxes in general and : : : property taxes.' This is what the people of : : : 'New Jersey have to say! : : : Obviously, Mr. McGreevey has : : : failed. What's worse for the 31st District, is : : : that he has deprived us of essential monetary : : : relief more than any other district in the : : : state. This year the taxpayers of Jersey City : : : will receive only $2 million. That is more : : : than an 80% decrease in tax relief since last : : : year! In comparison, much smaller towns : : : such as Union City ($4 million) and : : : Harrison ($3 million) received significantly more funding per resident. : : : Harrison, with a : : : population of only 14,400 will receive $207 : : : per person in distressed cities aide, while : : : Jersey City's population of 243,000 will receive only $8 per person. : : : Since Governor McGreevey has : : : been in office, Jersey City's state aid has : : : plummeted from $16 million to $2 million, : : : while our legislators stood by and collected : : : their multiple government salaries'.!! : : : Bayonne, on the other hand has : : : been labeled as one of the most tax trauma- : : : tized municipalities in the state by the Star : : : Ledger -- this is Joe Doria's home town. He : : : has done nothing to provide relief for the : : : 31st District after 24 years in the legislature! : : : Jim McGreevey and Joe Doria : : : have something in common: they both have : : : done nothing for the areas they are supposed : : : to serve. : : : Now, Governor McGreevey has : : : teamed up with Harvey Smith and Joe Doria : : : to further hurt the 31 st District. Team Smith : : : is in the pocket of the Governor - they will : : : be afraid to stand up to the Governor and : : : stand up for the 31st District, as their : : : records have shown. : : : The Jersey Journal further recog- : : : nizes this problem with, "Until now, : : : Democrats for Hudson County hasn't made : : : McGreevey an issue, even though it has : : : ammunition in the state's slashing of $8 mil- : : : lion in Distressed Cities Aid to Jersey City : : : and for other budget cuts that will hurt here. : : : The time has come- make a change on June 3 rd. This is so sad what is going on: What can the people do to help one another: Aneesah ***************** End Of Article ****************** aneesah posted Message 657 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 08:43:25 Subject: Re: Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District : : Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for : : 31st District : : Urban Times News : : May 23-May 29, 2003 : : It is agreed upon throughout the : : state that Governor James McGreevey is not : : succeeding. In fact, The Jersey Journal pre- : : sented a story entitled "McGreevey's poll : : performance: Mr. Negative on all 9 issues." : : The story then went on to list the Governor's : : shortcomings by way of statewide voter dis- : : approval with negative ratings related to the : : state budget, education, the economy and : : jobs, auto insurance, taxes in general and : : property taxes.' This is what the people of : : 'New Jersey have to say! : : Obviously, Mr. McGreevey has : : failed. What's worse for the 31st District, is : : that he has deprived us of essential monetary : : relief more than any other district in the : : state. This year the taxpayers of Jersey City : : will receive only $2 million. That is more : : than an 80% decrease in tax relief since last : : year! In comparison, much smaller towns : : such as Union City ($4 million) and : : Harrison ($3 million) received significantly more funding per resident. : : Harrison, with a : : population of only 14,400 will receive $207 : : per person in distressed cities aide, while : : Jersey City's population of 243,000 will receive only $8 per person. : : Since Governor McGreevey has : : been in office, Jersey City's state aid has : : plummeted from $16 million to $2 million, : : while our legislators stood by and collected : : their multiple government salaries'.!! : : Bayonne, on the other hand has : : been labeled as one of the most tax trauma- : : tized municipalities in the state by the Star : : Ledger -- this is Joe Doria's home town. He : : has done nothing to provide relief for the : : 31st District after 24 years in the legislature! : : Jim McGreevey and Joe Doria : : have something in common: they both have : : done nothing for the areas they are supposed : : to serve. : : Now, Governor McGreevey has : : teamed up with Harvey Smith and Joe Doria : : to further hurt the 31 st District. Team Smith : : is in the pocket of the Governor - they will : : be afraid to stand up to the Governor and : : stand up for the 31st District, as their : : records have shown. : : The Jersey Journal further recog- : : nizes this problem with, "Until now, : : Democrats for Hudson County hasn't made : : McGreevey an issue, even though it has : : ammunition in the state's slashing of $8 mil- : : lion in Distressed Cities Aid to Jersey City : : and for other budget cuts that will hurt here. : : The time has come- make a change on June 3 rd. This is a sad day and time what can the people do to help make this better: Aneesah ***************** End Of Article ****************** aneesah posted Message 658 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 08:45:39 Subject: Re: Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District : : : Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for : : : 31st District : : : Urban Times News : : : May 23-May 29, 2003 : : : It is agreed upon throughout the : : : state that Governor James McGreevey is not : : : succeeding. In fact, The Jersey Journal pre- : This is a sad day for the 31 district, we are going backwards people, what is going on here: : : : sented a story entitled "McGreevey's poll : : : performance: Mr. Negative on all 9 issues." : : : The story then went on to list the Governor's : : : shortcomings by way of statewide voter dis- : : : approval with negative ratings related to the : : : state budget, education, the economy and : : : jobs, auto insurance, taxes in general and : : : property taxes.' This is what the people of : : : 'New Jersey have to say! : : : Obviously, Mr. McGreevey has : : : failed. What's worse for the 31st District, is : : : that he has deprived us of essential monetary : : : relief more than any other district in the : : : state. This year the taxpayers of Jersey City : : : will receive only $2 million. That is more : : : than an 80% decrease in tax relief since last : : : year! In comparison, much smaller towns : : : such as Union City ($4 million) and : : : Harrison ($3 million) received significantly more funding per resident. : : : Harrison, with a : : : population of only 14,400 will receive $207 : : : per person in distressed cities aide, while : : : Jersey City's population of 243,000 will receive only $8 per person. : : : Since Governor McGreevey has : : : been in office, Jersey City's state aid has : : : plummeted from $16 million to $2 million, : : : while our legislators stood by and collected : : : their multiple government salaries'.!! : : : Bayonne, on the other hand has : : : been labeled as one of the most tax trauma- : : : tized municipalities in the state by the Star : : : Ledger -- this is Joe Doria's home town. He : : : has done nothing to provide relief for the : : : 31st District after 24 years in the legislature! : : : Jim McGreevey and Joe Doria : : : have something in common: they both have : : : done nothing for the areas they are supposed : : : to serve. : : : Now, Governor McGreevey has : : : teamed up with Harvey Smith and Joe Doria : : : to further hurt the 31 st District. Team Smith : : : is in the pocket of the Governor - they will : : : be afraid to stand up to the Governor and : : : stand up for the 31st District, as their : : : records have shown. : : : The Jersey Journal further recog- : : : nizes this problem with, "Until now, : : : Democrats for Hudson County hasn't made : : : McGreevey an issue, even though it has : : : ammunition in the state's slashing of $8 mil- : : : lion in Distressed Cities Aid to Jersey City : : : and for other budget cuts that will hurt here. : : : The time has come- make a change on June 3 rd. This is so sad what can the people of Jersey City and Bayonne do to help one another: Aneesah ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aneesah posted Message 659 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 08:48:35 Subject: Re: Jersey City Reporter: "Rep. Bob Menendez (D-13th Dist.) seems to be mending political fences with Cunningham, before an expected Cunningham primary victory." : : . . . : Rep. Bob Menendez (D-13th Dist.) seems to be mending political fences with Cunningham, before an expected Cunningham primary victory. Several statements issued out of Menendez's office hinted at peacemaking. This is a wise political move. If Cunningham wins, he will carry significant clout. Better to make overtures now than later when such moves might be seen as groveling. : . . . : For the complete article, see the Link. God answers all prayers in his time not ours: Aneesah ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat o'melia posted Message 660 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 12:35:05 Subject: Election show 9PM Hudson County's Talking am 1430 Election eve show, Smith Vs Cunningham, Doria Vs Manzo, Chiapone Vs Perez-Cinciarelli (ok no juice there) DeGise Vs Not a pray. all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio, Hudson County's Talking toll free to call and have your voice heard! 877-999-0799 ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 661 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 14:20:15 Subject: Re: Election show 9PM Hudson County's Talking am 1430 There's now an Online archive for Pat's radio show. Please see the Link. : Election eve show, Smith Vs Cunningham, Doria Vs Manzo, Chiapone Vs Perez-Cinciarelli (ok no juice there) DeGise Vs Not a pray. all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio, Hudson County's Talking toll free to call and have your voice heard! 877-999-0799 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, UTN posted Message 662 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2003 at 21:45:55 Subject: UNCLE HARVEY–BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY HCDO: $250K UNCLE HARVEY–BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY HCDO: $250K Steven Glazer -email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com Jersey City—If there was any doubt where Harvey Smith’s loyalty lies, recent campaign finance reports filed with the State of New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission dispel any that might remain. Reports filed by “L. Harvey Smith for Senate Campaign Committee” clearly show that the Hudson County Democratic Organization has paid $251, 367.91 for Harvey Smith’s entire negative campaign against Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. Former Hudson County Executive Bob Janizewski, now testifying at the corruption trial of Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon, was head of the HCDO until his indictment in late 2000. All but $18,100.00 came from HCDO direct contributions and $7,000 that came from the account of “Campaign Committee for Smith,” remaining from Harvey’s municipal campaign funds. Legal sources familiar with current campaign finance law say that the transfer of funds from a municipal campaign account to a different campaign is clearly in violation of the law. Nevertheless, those attorneys say the issue is whether contributors who would donate to a campaign for a municipal office like city council would make a contribution to the same candidate if the candidate were running for a different office. “Those contributors might feel the candidate were qualified for one office but not for the other. Or they might like the candidate but prefer a different candidate for the other office. The intent of the law is clearly that the transfer of funds in this fashion deprives the contributor of a choice. It is a type of fraud,” Ironically, Smith’s running mate, Joe “Fat Joe” Doria of Bayonne requested and received an advisory opinion on the legality of exactly this type of transfer of funds. Doria wanted to use funds from his Bayonne Mayoral campaign for his State Assembly seat. The New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission told Doria at the time that such a transfer was flatly prohibited. Smith was not available for comment. The balance of Smith’s campaign expenditures, roughly $225,000, came directly in the form of “in kind” contributions from the Hudson County Democratic Organization. A contribution of $43,000 was reported to the NJELEC on May 5, 2003 and $182, 042.91 was reported May 30, 2003, totaling $225, 042.91. The contributions were made not in cash but “in kind” meaning that the HCDO picked up the tab directly for campaign expenses incurred on Harvey’s behalf and charging his campaign for the outlays, rather than putting that much cash in the candidate’s own hands directly. A spokesman for the Cunningham campaign said that while it was a considerable amount to expend for a primary, far more than Cunningham, Smith had run an entirely negative campaign aimed a bringing down Cunningham’s high popularity and approval ratings. “They have nothing good to say about their candidate so all they can do is sling mud at Glenn. They cannot even find any good mud—there is none. They just burned up a great deal of money for a destructive purpose. The voters are not easily fooled. If they had anything of substance to say they would have said it explicitly and not implied, and used innuendo. But what can they say about Harvey? Can they talk about all his achievements? Can they talk about his record? Can they talk about his character? All they can do is try to degrade Glenn Cunningham.” The primary campaign comes to its conclusion just as the corruption trial heats up with Janizewski naming names and detailing how the scheme of institutionalized corruption worked. The only thing different now is that Janizewski is cooperating with the prosecution in return for a lighter sentence for himself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** John V Kenny posted Message 663 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2003 at 00:55:33 Subject: Re: Uncle Harvey Rises Dramatically in Poles : UNCLE HARVEY RISES DRAMATICALLY IN POLES : Jay Stevens email: jstevens@urbantimesnews.com : …FROM “INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP” : Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith, aka Uncle Harvey, has recently risen dramatically in the poles according to his own press releases. We believe him. Even if the statement is self-serving, that does not mean that it isn’t true. And we are glad because they could only have gone up. We are not sure if it is possible to have a negative name recognition factor. That would make Harvey the equivalent of a black hole in marketing. Of course Harvey is hoping that we would take that to mean opinion polls. : What he really means is utility poles. He has risen sharply. That is mostly due to his recent hiring of very tall campaign workers, particularly Arnold Williams. Because of his great height and reach, Williams is able to affix campaign literature to the poles much higher from the ground than they had been. Williams single-handedly accounts for the reason Harvey has risen so sharply in the poles or on the polls. The Poles don't Vote, People Do , Is Uncle Harvey and His Giant going to clean up the Poles after He Loses ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dirt Bag Glazer posted Message 664 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2003 at 06:30:52 Subject: Re: UNCLE HARVEY–BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY HCDO: $250K Hey dirt bag, you stayed away from the "Uncle Harvey" but went right for the personal insult to Joe Doria. Same challenge punk, say it to his face. And Glenn must be so proud to accept cash from such a pillar of the community as Bob Torricelli. And by the way who did Janisewski support for mayor? Seems to me he spent a considerable amount of his ill gotten cash on Cunningham's campaign. Glenn can hide behind the flag, the Corps, his wife, Gerry McCann, the star and any other bit of suberfuge but like you he will always be a dirt bag of the first class. Pay back is a female dog and its a-coming slime ball. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 665 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2003 at 10:40:44 Subject: "...targeted...for harassment at the polls. " Jersey Journal 06/03/03 Peter Weiss . . . In a letter sent Friday to Christopher Christie, the U.S. attorney for New Jersey, Cunningham accuses opponents of "behavior that makes it likely that (the primary). . will be plagued with election violations." He said he was informed by a county elections worker, whom he didn't identify, that voters in Jersey City's predominantly African-American area would be being targeted for harassment at the polls. Cunningham also implied that the state cannot be relied on for impartial supervision because Gov. James E. McGreevey "has made the very unusual step of endorsing" Smith in the primary. "This is the first we're hearing of it," a spokesman for Christie said yesterday afternoon, adding that the letter had not arrived. He said it was highly unlikely that the "11th hour request" could be honored. HCDO Executive Director Javier Inclan said Cunningham's letter was politically motivated and "ironic" because Cunningham "has surrounded himself" with several advisers who were accused in the 1985 Jersey City municipal election of thwarting minority voters. The case was settled by an insurance firm for some $600,000. . . . For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jonathan J. Oriole posted Message 666 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2003 at 11:11:10 Subject: Get Out and Vote Today for Progressive Independents! Dear Friends and Supporters, It's that time of year again -- primary elections! Unfortunately, as you probably know, there is no primary election for the Green Party (or any other "minor party") in New Jersey. But that doesn't mean that we can't have an impact on the outcome of these elections. To the contrary -- many of you are still registered as Democrats or Republicans, or are "unaffiliated" in terms of party declaration. If you are unaffiliated or registered as independent, you have the choice of voting in either party's primary, but doing so will declare your affiliation with that party -- which you can change after the election, if you choose. Historically, most races in Hudson County are determined in the Democratic primary. The Democrats know this, which is why the two big machines are pouring their resources into this race and are happily slinging the mud at each other. However, two candidates running as Democrats stand out of the crowd: * For COUNTY EXECUTIVE, JAIME VAZQUEZ is running as an "independent" Democratic candidate. He has been involved in the peace and justice movement for years and is a strong ally of many progressive causes. * In the 31st District, VINCENT MILITELLO, JR., is running as an independent candidate for STATE SENATE. He has worked on behalf of the people of Hudson County as Assistant Prosecutor and is not party of any party "machine." I am convinced that he is an independent who would work for the good of the people of Hudson County, and not serve the big corporate patrons of the Hudson County Democratic Organization. As for the rest of the slate, I would encourage everyone in the 31st District to write in PAMELA OLSEN and myself (JONATHAN J. ORIOLE) for STATE ASSEMBLY -- on both the Democratic and Repulican tickets. In the 33rd District, please write in MARIA RIOS for STATE ASSEMBLY on whichever party you vote. Yes, you have every right to write in ANYONE YOU CHOOSE as a candidate for the primary nomination. Your support for the Green Party -- and supportive, independent Democrats -- is greatly appreciated. I look forward to hearing from you as our campaign for the November General Election continues on its way. Best wishes for a healthy and enjoyable summer! In Peace and Pride, Jonathan J. Oriole Green Party Candidate for NJ State Assembly, 31st District Jonathan@OrioleforAssembly.org tel: 646.239.8623 *NOTE* -- This political endorsement is a personal one and should not be construed as an official endorsement on behalf of the Green Party of Hudson County or any of its affiliates. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jonathan J. Oriole posted Message 667 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2003 at 11:12:26 Subject: Get Out and Vote Today for Progressive Independents! Dear Friends and Supporters, It's that time of year again -- primary elections! Unfortunately, as you probably know, there is no primary election for the Green Party (or any other "minor party") in New Jersey. But that doesn't mean that we can't have an impact on the outcome of these elections. To the contrary -- many of you are still registered as Democrats or Republicans, or are "unaffiliated" in terms of party declaration. If you are unaffiliated or registered as independent, you have the choice of voting in either party's primary, but doing so will declare your affiliation with that party -- which you can change after the election, if you choose. Historically, most races in Hudson County are determined in the Democratic primary. The Democrats know this, which is why the two big machines are pouring their resources into this race and are happily slinging the mud at each other. However, two candidates running as Democrats stand out of the crowd: * For COUNTY EXECUTIVE, JAIME VAZQUEZ is running as an "independent" Democratic candidate. He has been involved in the peace and justice movement for years and is a strong ally of many progressive causes. * In the 31st District, VINCENT MILITELLO, JR., is running as an independent candidate for STATE SENATE. He has worked on behalf of the people of Hudson County as Assistant Prosecutor and is not party of any party "machine." I am convinced that he is an independent who would work for the good of the people of Hudson County, and not serve the big corporate patrons of the Hudson County Democratic Organization. As for the rest of the slate, I would encourage everyone in the 31st District to write in PAMELA OLSEN and myself (JONATHAN J. ORIOLE) for STATE ASSEMBLY -- on both the Democratic and Repulican tickets. In the 33rd District, please write in MARIA RIOS for STATE ASSEMBLY on whichever party you vote. Yes, you have every right to write in ANYONE YOU CHOOSE as a candidate for the primary nomination. Your support for the Green Party -- and supportive, independent Democrats -- is greatly appreciated. I look forward to hearing from you as our campaign for the November General Election continues on its way. Best wishes for a healthy and enjoyable summer! In Peace and Pride, Jonathan J. Oriole Green Party Candidate for NJ State Assembly, 31st District Jonathan@OrioleforAssembly.org tel: 646.239.8623 *NOTE* -- This political endorsement is a personal one and should not be construed as an official endorsement on behalf of the Green Party of Hudson County or any of its affiliates. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez and Harvey posted Message 668 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2003 at 12:08:45 Subject: Re: Bribers of Janiszewski - COOPERATING WITH GOVERNMENT I would not be suprised if i see the Congressman and city council join Janiszewski. : Janiszewski lists payers of bribes at trial of Colon : Saturday, May 31, 2003 : By PETER J. SAMPSON : STAFF WRITER : : NEWARK - Former Hudson County Executive Robert C. Janiszewski on Friday said waterfront developer Joseph Barry and political consultant Paul Byrne were among seven people who paid him tens of thousands of dollars in bribes for favors. : The revelation came during questioning by Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey D. Clark on the second day of testimony in the corruption trial of longtime Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon. : Colon is facing charges of mail fraud and aiding and abetting extortion for allegedly delivering two $5,000 cash payments to Janiszewski from her former boyfriend, psychiatrist Oscar Sandoval, in 1999. : In return for the payments, Janiszewski said, Sandoval's contracts to provide psychiatric services to the county jail and hospital were renewed and expanded. : Janiszewski, the once-powerful Democrat who served six years in the Assembly and 16 as Hudson's top elected official, pleaded guilty in October to receiving $20,000 in bribes from Sandoval. : As part of a deal, he said, he agreed to work with the FBI and secretly recorded conversations with associates in the hope that his cooperation will win him a more lenient sentence. : Detailing a litany of "other illegal acts," Janiszewski disclosed that he accepted cash payments "directly" from Barry, president of the Applied Companies, a major developer of housing in Hoboken, Jersey City, and North Bergen. : Janiszewski also said that on two occasions before his cooperation, Byrne - his boyhood friend and confidant - acted as an intermediary for payments of $30,000 and $20,000 from Barry in connection with his developments. : Janiszewski described the payments as "essentially a kickback" for approval of low-interest loans and grants and said the agreement called for an "ultimate amount of $305,000" to be split between him and Byrne. He also referred to the payments as "bribes." : Barry, whose Hoboken offices were raided by the FBI last year, has denied any wrongdoing. Neither he nor his attorney could be reached for comment Friday. : Byrne had only one comment on the testimony: "This is the political equivalent of John Gotti ratting out his bookies." : Janiszewski said he also accepted periodic cash payments of $2,000 to $3,000 from Byrne, bond underwriter John "Jay" Booth, and three accountants who had county contracts. : Janiszewski said Byrne "fashioned himself as a government consultant" who helped clients obtain county contracts and grants and access to Janiszewski. : Janiszewski testified that Booth paid him a total of $9,000 over the years in connection with bond underwriting deals, including the financing of construction of the county jail. : He said Booth acted once as an intermediary for an engineering firm. Booth could not be reached for comment Friday. : Prosecutors, who sought to keep the vendors' names secret but were overruled by the judge on Thursday, declined to answer any questions about their status. On Thursday, they said SOME WERE COOPERATING and others might never be charged. : Janiszewski detailed the payoffs he received from Sandoval, who began cooperating with the FBI in June 1999 and helped snare Janiszewski. : Accustomed to receiving campaign checks from Sandoval, Janiszewski said he was surprised when he met Colon at her political club in 1996 and she handed him an envelope with $10,000 cash. She told him the money was from Sandoval and that he could do whatever he wanted with it, he testified. : Although it wasn't his first bribe, Janiszewski said, the transaction was "burned into my memory" because it was the first time he had accepted cash from another elected official. It also meant Colon knew he was on the take, he said. : Sandoval once tried to give him an envelope in his county office, but fearful of being "exposed," Janiszewski said, he encouraged the doctor to take it back by writing a note on a pad saying something like "wrong time, wrong place, not now." : Janiszewski said he avoided Sandoval for more than a year after that until Colon told him that the doctor wanted to get back in his good graces. : "She asked me if she could be the liaison between Dr. Sandoval and I," he said, and believing that "Sandoval would not intentionally hurt Ms. Colon," he agreed. : Shortly after that, he said, Colon passed him envelopes with $5,000 from Sandoval in September and October of 1999, first in the hallway outside his office in the old county courthouse and then at a political event. : The trial was recessed until Tuesday, when Janiszewski is to resume his testimony. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 669 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2003 at 12:58:30 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking: Rename the Loew's Jersey to the Nathan Lane Theatre? Rename the Loew's Jersey to the Nathan Lane Theatre? That's what the some in Weehawken and Secaucus want done. And if they get their way, will Kennedy Boulevard then become Nathan Lane Lane? The future appelation of the Journal Square Theatre and June 3rd's primary are the burning issues in the June 2nd broadcast. For an Online recording, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 670 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2003 at 20:12:32 Subject: Cunningham Hq: Glenn is winning Cunningham Headquarters relates that Glenn is winning by a wide margin. They say that Manzo and Chiapone are ahead, too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A FRIEND! posted Message 671 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2003 at 21:01:36 Subject: THANK YOU BAYONNE! Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith carried Bayonne by a wide margin over Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham in the 31st district. Smith won 4,020 votes to Cunningham's 1,317. Vincent Militello, a Bayonne resident, finished second with 2,468 votes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, UTN posted Message 672 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 00:30:04 Subject: CUNNINGHAM, MANZO, CHIAPPONE, THE EVIL EMPIRE STUMBLES- CUNNINGHAM, MANZO, CHIAPPONE THE EVIL EMPIRE STUMBLES- UNCLE HARVEY, FAT JOE CRASH AND BURN Steven Glazer, UTN- email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com Jersey City—The Hudson County Democratic Organization stumbled badly, spending more than $1 Million to damage Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham and instead came away bloodied, losing resoundingly, with the fall of Bayonne Mayor Joe Doria, a 24-year veteran. In Jersey City, Mayor Glenn Cunningham trounced L. Harvey “Uncle Harvey” Smith for the 31st District Senate Seat in a walk. Anthony Chiappone, a freshman Bayonne Council member upset the incumbent Mayor Doria, an HCDO “made” guy, for 31st District Assembly seat that Doria has held 24 years. Former Freeholder Louis Manzo, with his power base on Jersey City’s West Side, convincingly took a second 31st District Assembly seat for the Cunningham ticket. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ham sandwich posted Message 673 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 02:01:56 Subject: Re: THANK YOU BAYONNE! : Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith carried Bayonne by a wide margin over Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham in the 31st district. Smith won 4,020 votes to Cunningham's 1,317. Vincent Militello, a Bayonne resident, finished second with 2,468 votes. : ***************** End Of Article ****************** winner posted Message 674 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 02:26:33 Subject: ty for nothing bayonne I must say that I am so ashamed of the Bayonne voters who did not only not support Tony Chiappone who has proven to work so hard for our city of Bayonne, but played a race card in this election should get what they deserve. Now that he is our "NEW" Assemblyman, Bayonne will be a better place no thanks to you! Shame Shame Shame! Now let the Berlin Wall fall, and all you phonies who said you supported him get what you all deserve. We know who you are. To be so intimidated by this man (and you know who I am talking about) is a disgrace but now his reign has come to an end and I say "Thank God". The honest people have spoken and it was not the voice of Bayonne! Again as a resident of Bayonne I am so ashamed of those of you from Bayonne who were so foolish for the jaded choice you have made... ***************** End Of Article ****************** IT'S GREAT!!! posted Message 675 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 03:52:52 Subject: The statue of yet another TYRANT falls!!! It took the Marines and they had to fight hard each step along the way, BUT THEY WON!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** First Mississippi, then South African, now Hudson County posted Message 676 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 04:01:47 Subject: NEW YORK TIMES, Glenn Biggest Winner NEW YORK TIMES By DAVID KOCIENIEWSKI Among Democrats, Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham of Jersey City emerged as the biggest winner in today's primaries, capturing the nomination for State Senate in the 31st District over Harvey Smith, who had the backing of Representative Robert Menendez, Gov. James E. McGreevey and the State General Assembly speaker, Albio Sires. By using his base in Jersey City to face down the biggest powers in the state, Mr. Cunningham, a former U.S. marshal, has established himself as a substantial force in Democratic politics. If he wins in November, the tradition of senatorial courtesy, which allows a state senator veto power over any appointment in his district, would give Mr. Cunningham substantial clout with which to challenge Mr. Menendez's control of Hudson County. "Not only did I win, but my whole slate won," Mr. Cunningham said, referring to the legislative candidates he had been supporting. "What it means is that the time of machine tactics is dead, and that the negative campaign tactics that people use is a turnoff to the people." Mr. Cunningham also said that he hoped his victory sent a message. "Bob Menendez is a good congressman, but he wants to be other things. He shouldn't be trying to run cities, and now, others are seeing that they can be free from the machine." Political incumbents generally fared well across the state, but Joseph V. Doria, the former speaker of the General Assembly, appeared to be in a close race in his bid for the Democratic nomination in his Hudson County Assembly district. He had been expected to win handily over his three opponents, Louis Manzo, Anthony Chiappone and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Militello for State Senate posted Message 677 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 05:00:49 Subject: Militello: Bayonne and Jersey City Win on Tuesday Militello: Bayonne and Jersey City Win on Tuesday ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 678 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 06:52:11 Subject: NJN Video: Glenn Wins Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham won the Democrat nomination for the State Senate in the 31st legislative district. To view the NJN video, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 679 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 07:48:34 Subject: Jersey Journal: BIG WIN FOR GLENN BIG WIN FOR GLENN Cunningham amd Chiappone edge organization candidates; too close to call between Doria, Manzo Jersey Journal Wednesday, June 04, 2003 By Peter Weiss Journal staff writer Walking into Puccini's restaurant in Jersey City to the strains of the Marine Corps hymn, Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham claimed a "wonderful" political victory last night by winning the Democratic nomination for state Senate in the 31st District. At least one of his running mates for Assembly appeared to also have won one of two nominations, but the second spot was very much in doubt last night, when county elections officials closed up with eight districts unreported in Jersey City. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Henson posted Message 680 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 12:45:18 Subject: Doria vs. Manzo headed for a recount There's no wiggle room in the Doria vs. Manzo Assembly contest. Word's out that Doria hired a lawyer already. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Been Fooled Before posted Message 681 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 14:02:08 Subject: Re: Militello: Bayonne and Jersey City Win on Tuesday : Militello: Bayonne and Jersey City Win on Tuesday There have been other "new stars" in Bayonne politics before, does anyone remember Len Kiczek, (is He a judge yet?)but they all seem to sell out to the good old boy Democratic Organization. Milittello started out great but will this new star burn out just like the others before him? I sure hope not but only time will tell. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Henson posted Message 682 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 17:18:08 Subject: Re: Doria vs. Manzo headed for a recount Latest is that Manzo's got it. The Cunningham team neatly took out a HCDO keystone. : There's no wiggle room in the Doria vs. Manzo Assembly contest. Word's out that Doria hired a lawyer already. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN CLASIFIEDS posted Message 683 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 19:26:25 Subject: CONCERT TICKETS SOUVENIR CONCERT TICKETS-COLLECTIBLE UNSOLD MINT CONDITION FAT JOE & UNCLE HARVEY… RAP& RUN Call Pat O. at JC'S Talking ALSO: BENEFIT TICKETS TO: EXHIBITION BOXING MATCH ONE ROUND ONLY Darrell Laval v. Leonard H. Smith (on a street corner to be announced) Parking available at additional cost ***************** End Of Article ****************** Our new leader ......scary ........huh! posted Message 684 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 23:43:13 Subject: Smut that the Cunningham team did to win! Top News Flier 'reports' Smith clash exactly wrong in effort to mislead Wednesday, June 04, 2003 By Martin Espinoza Journal staff writer Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. But yesterday, a bit of nasty Election Day fiction was distributed in Jersey City and Bayonne because the truth was apparently just too tame. According to a flier that was made to look like a Jersey Journal news item, Jersey City Council President and state Senate hopeful L. Harvey Smith "was convicted of aggravated assault on the manager of a public housing complex and sentenced to 90 days incarceration." But the phony flier was lying. Smith was never convicted of such an attack and, in fact, the dispute that provided the seed for the dirty trick ended with Smith and the housing manager shaking hands. The flier, which was dated "June 2, 2003" and carried The Jersey Journal nameplate without authorization, misrepresented the facts of a court case detailed in a May 9 Journal article about Smith and Darrell Laval, the manager of the Booker T. Washington housing complex. Laval had accused Smith of shoving and cursing at him April 23 when Smith was campaigning at the complex. Smith denied there had been any physical contact and filed a harassment complaint against Laval on April 24. In turn, Laval filed a formal complaint against Smith. Both and Smith and Laval withdrew their complaints when they appeared before Municipal Court Chief Judge Cynthia Jackson on May 8. Before walking into Jackson's courtroom, Smith and Laval shook hands and spoke privately for a few moments. The unknown writers of the deceitful flier further invented the outcome of the case to say the sentence for the veteran educator and councilman "was suspended so Smith will not be locked up, but he must perform 300 hours of community service." Smith was running against Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham and Bayonne attorney Vincent Militello in yesterday's 31st District Democratic primary. Smith called the flier "a desperate move" on the part of Cunningham supporters "who don't have any real issues to talk about. They're playing the community as ignorant." Stan Eason, Cunningham's spokesman, said neither Cunningham nor any of the other candidates on his slate was responsible for the flier. Martin Espinoza can be reached at mespinoz@jjournal.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ BUT WHAT THEY DID WAS DO IT IN FRONT OF A BUILDING THAT HAD VIDEO CAMS DIRECTED AT THE STREET. I LOVE IT! and guess who is on the tape! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steve Glazer how life down there? u r i 2 i with worms! posted Message 685 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2003 at 23:55:48 Subject: Re: CONCERT TICKETS Should we make the check payable to: The Patti Labelle show or maybe the Juv. Diab. fund our how bout' just to Bobby and Joe show. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 686 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2003 at 08:18:47 Subject: Jersey Journal: Chiappone and Manzo top Doria by nearly 500 votes Ex-speaker won't even have Assembly seat Chiappone and Manzo top Doria by nearly 500 votes Jersey Journal Thursday, June 05, 2003 By Martin Espinoza Journal staff writer By 2 p.m. yesterday, all eight missing voter tally sheets from Tuesday's primary were on the desk of Hilda Rosario, the Hudson County clerk's supervisor of elections. The sheets contained the information everyone wanted to know: The final results of Tuesday's primary, one that had 12-term state Assemblyman and Bayonne Mayor Joseph V. Doria's career in Trenton hanging in the balance. According to tally sheets Rosario read to a group of report- ers, attorneys and others who had converged on her office, former Hudson County Freeholder Louis Manzo was unofficially ahead of Doria by 448 votes in the 31st District. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 687 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2003 at 08:22:29 Subject: Jersey Journal: Doria got the vote out, but may lose Trenton job Doria got the vote out, but may lose Trenton job Jersey Journal Thursday, June 05, 2003 By Ronald Leir Journal staff writer He had the money, he had the campaign workers and he had the high-powered connections, but he could lose his Assembly seat. Bayonne Mayor Joseph V. Doria Jr.'s 24-year career in the Legislature, which included a two-year stint as Assembly speaker in the early 1990s, may have ended Tuesday night in a stunning upset - although he hasn't conceded the race, and a recount seemed inevitable today as Hudson County election officials continued counting vote tallies from Tuesday's Democratic primary. But the unofficial results give the edge to the candidates on Row B - the slate led by state Senate candidate Glenn D. Cunningham, the Jersey City mayor - and appear to show Louis Manzo edged out Doria in a close race for the second Assembly seat in the 31st District. Bayonne Councilman-at-Large Anthony Chiappone appears to be the clear winner for the district's other Assembly seat. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 688 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2003 at 08:24:57 Subject: Jersey Journal: Manzo credits criticism of gov's budget for win Manzo credits criticism of gov's budget for win Jersey Journal Thursday, June 05, 2003 By Peter Weiss Journal news staff Louis Manzo of Jersey City is one Democrat who has shown no reluctance to criticize Gov. James E. McGreevey's budget, and he says it helped him wrest a Democratic nomination for state Assembly in the 31st District where two incumbents now serve. "I made this a referendum on the governor's budget," Manzo said yesterday, after being declared a winner when absentee ballots and eight missing districts were tallied by Hudson County elections officials. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2003 at 08:31:11 Subject: Jersey Journal: Janiszewski takes pounding on stand Janiszewski takes pounding on stand Davila-Colon's lawyer rips ex-exec's credibility Jersey Journal Thursday, June 05, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer NEWARK - The attorney representing Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon in her federal corruption trial continued yesterday to pound away at the credibility of former County Executive Robert Janiszewski, the government's star witness, portraying him as a perennial liar who is testifying in the case to draw a lighter jail sentence. Janiszewski, the four-term county executive and former Democratic powerbroker, generally remained calm while on the stand, repeating his allegations that Davila-Colon passed him thousands of dollars in bribe money from Dr. Oscar Sandoval, a Union City psychiatrist who held county contracts, during the 1990s. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 690 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2003 at 08:40:06 Subject: Jersey Journal: For pal of 50 years, Janiszewski's betrayal is 'heartbreaking' For pal of 50 years, Janiszewski's betrayal is 'heartbreaking' Jersey Journal Thursday, June 05, 2003 By Jeff Whelan Newhouse News Service In the 1950s, Bob Janiszewski and Paul Byrne were altar boys together at St. Joseph's Church on Pavonia Avenue in Jersey City. Before long, they were inseparable. Janiszewski went on to become one of the most powerful Democrats in the state, and Byrne, his most trusted confidant, was there to help guide his climb up the ladder. So Byrne said he was "heartbroken" when, last Friday, Janiszewski turned on him in federal court in what Byrne describes as an act of unspeakable betrayal. Byrne, who is 57, suffers from diabetes and is blind, said he agreed to go public with his comments in an interview because "I can fall over any day." . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 691 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2003 at 08:41:44 Subject: Jersey Journal: Jury is shown a rendezvous caught on tape Jury is shown a rendezvous caught on tape Janiszewski: $5G delivered in cash Jersey Journal Wednesday, June 04, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer NEWARK - Former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski spent his third day on the witness stand yesterday, testifying for the government as a videotape of him and Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon was played, and then facing a tense cross-examination. Although it isn't seen on the FBI videotape shot at a Democratic fund-raiser on Oct. 15, 1999, Janiszewski testified that at a point when he and Davila-Colon were out of camera range, she passed him an envelope stuffed with cash. . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 692 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2003 at 08:44:50 Subject: Star Ledger: Janiszewski says he split bribes from key developer Janiszewski says he split bribes from key developer Ex-Hudson official admits being 'a crook' and 'an extortionist' Star Ledger Thursday, June 05, 2003 BY JOHN P. MARTIN Star-Ledger Staff Former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski said yesterday that he and an aide arranged to divvy up $305,000 in bribes from Joe Barry, one of the region's most prominent developers. Testifying for a third day in the corruption trial of a county freeholder, Janiszewksi said he and Paul Byrne, a longtime friend and political operative, agreed in late 1999 or early 2000 to take the kickbacks for helping Barry win federal subsidies and county approval for his developments. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 693 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2003 at 08:48:10 Subject: Star Ledger: Doria fights to hold onto Assembly seat Doria fights to hold onto Assembly seat Former speaker demands recount of upset loss in Hudson; vote totals not certified yet Star Ledger Thursday, June 05, 2003 BY JEFF WHELAN AND JONATHAN SCHUPPE Star-Ledger Staff In a last-ditch effort to salvage a 23-year career in the Legislature, Assemblyman Joseph Doria said yesterday he would demand a recount of unofficial election results that showed him losing Tuesday's Democratic primary. Caught in the crossfire of a feud between two warring Hudson County Democratic power brokers, Doria trailed challenger Louis Manzo in the unofficial tally yesterday, 10,460 to 10,908. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 694 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2003 at 08:04:55 Subject: Star Ledger: Doria, Manzo mull legal action in Assembly upset Doria, Manzo mull legal action in Assembly upset Star Ledger Friday, June 06, 2003 BY DAVID KINNEY Star-Ledger Staff Assemblyman Joseph Doria hired an attorney with expertise on elections yesterday to help him consider how to challenge the vote count that shows him losing his legislative seat after 23 years. Meanwhile the apparent winner, Louis Manzo, said he would file a complaint against the Hudson County Democratic organization for allegedly trying to suppress the vote in Tuesday's primary. . . . For the complete story, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 695 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2003 at 08:08:13 Subject: Jersey Journal: Jury hears Sandoval's tapes of Davila-Colon Jury hears Sandoval's tapes of Davila-Colon Also, FBI agent tells of watching bribe hand-off not caught on video Jersey Journal Friday, June 06, 2003 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer NEWARK - Union City psychiatrist Dr. Oscar Sandoval taped his then-girlfriend Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon as the two discussed ways to hand off cash-stuffed envelopes to Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski, FBI agents testified yesterday. The jury of five men and seven women never hear Davila-Colon or Sandoval refer to bribes or money on the tapes; instead, they refer to "envelopes," "stuff" or "the thing." . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 696 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2003 at 08:13:36 Subject: Jersey Journal: Tale of the tapes Tale of the tapes Jersey Journal Friday, June 06, 2003 Transcripts of conversations recorded by the FBI that have been entered into evidence by the government at the trial of Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon: On Aug. 16, 1999, Dr. Oscar Sandoval talked with Davila-Colon about an envelope she gave to Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski several years earlier. Janiszewski has testified that the envelope was full of cash. . . . For the complete story, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 697 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2003 at 08:16:56 Subject: Jersey Journal: Bayonne just wasn't big enough Bayonne just wasn't big enough Jersey Journal Friday, June 06, 2003 Peter Weiss Tuesday's 31st District Democratic legislative primary was very much a tale of two cities. Bayonne Mayor Joseph Doria did what he had to do in his city and Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham did what he had to do in his city. Turnouts in each was around 50 percent - an impressive total for a primary. Unfortunately for Doria and his Hudson County Democratic Organization running mates, almost two-thirds of the district's registered Democrats live in Jersey City. That's why Cunningham is the Democratic nominee for state Senate and Doria, the Hudson County Democratic Organization candidate, will be out after 24 years in the Assembly. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN CLASSIFIEDS posted Message 698 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2003 at 13:40:58 Subject: BENEFIT CONCERT TICKETS ON SALE NOW BENEFIT CONCERT TICKETS ON SALE NOW BIGGEST SHOW EVER AT THE LOWE’S!!! THE HUDSON COUNTY GOOD OL’ BOYS CHOIR DIRECT FROM NEWARK FEDERAL ENGAGEMENT MAY BE LAST PUBLIC APPEARANCE EVER!!! Featuring(to name a few) BOB MENENDEZ-DON SCARINCI-JAY AND ALEX BOOTH-JOE BARRY-DAVE ROBERTS-BOBBY J.-DENNY ENRIGHT-SAL “JOHNNY WEISSMULLER” VEGA-MARIANO VEGA-BILL GAUGHAN-ABE ANTUN-JOE DORIA and many others For Tickets call Chris C. US Attorney’s office or Bill S, Newark Field office FBI ALL PROCEEDS TO: HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION SURVIVORS FUND ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 699 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2003 at 14:03:59 Subject: Re: BENEFIT CONCERT TICKETS ON SALE NOW Janiszewski seems to be hitting all the high notes in his solo performance... : BENEFIT CONCERT TICKETS ON SALE NOW : BIGGEST SHOW EVER AT THE LOWE’S!!! : THE HUDSON COUNTY GOOD OL’ BOYS CHOIR : : DIRECT FROM NEWARK FEDERAL ENGAGEMENT : MAY BE LAST PUBLIC APPEARANCE EVER!!! : Featuring(to name a few) : BOB MENENDEZ-DON SCARINCI-JAY AND ALEX BOOTH-JOE BARRY-DAVE ROBERTS-BOBBY J.-DENNY ENRIGHT-SAL “JOHNNY WEISSMULLER” VEGA-MARIANO VEGA-BILL GAUGHAN-ABE ANTUN-JOE DORIA and many others : For Tickets call Chris C. US Attorney’s office or Bill S, Newark Field office FBI : ALL PROCEEDS TO: HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION SURVIVORS FUND ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 700 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2003 at 11:35:04 Subject: HCDO Shot Itself in the Foot! If the goal of the Hudson County Democratic Organization communication crew was to annoy me, as a Jersey City PG (Pre-Gentrification) character, I'll have to admit that they were successful. If the goal was to win an election and/or to set the stage for the HCDO to consolidate its influence, the Hudson County Democratic Organization message mongers were all abject failures. Sad to relate, whether the Hudson County Democratic Organization bunch are just trying to hold onto their media maven jobs or if they really are suffering from ossification (or some other degenerative disorder) of the brain, they still don't admit to any mistakes. They are blaming the Governor for a lack of effort (even though McGreevey did more for them than for anybody else), Bayonne for letting them down (even with a fifty percent turnout), Militello (I'd guess that his 14% only accounted for relatives, personal friends and the non-aligned that were liable to go either way anyhow), and Jersey City residents for being unsavory characters all. The last is the real howler, for that was the basis of the HCDO campaign. The Hudson County Democratic Organization did everything to demonize and insult the population of Jersey City -- and then expected their support on election day. Is the entire cast of characters so used to getting whatever they want every place else that now they don't think that they (at the very least) even have to pretend to respect Jersey City-ites? When Healy ran for Mayor, the North Hudson spinmeisters mailed out pictures of corpses in the street. The votes went to Schundler. When DeGise ran for Mayor, the Ministers of Propaganda printed up pictures of Cunningham as King Kong rampaging in a garbage-strewn alley. Glenn won. This ride on the Merry Ground we heard that the sanctuary of the Loew's (which the North Bergen- and Secaucus-based wizards stubbornly insisted to the very end on spelling as LOWE'S) was to be ravaged by hordes of Untermenschen. It's sad, but the Goebbel-esque rants of bogeymen still scares those with the mind of a child. Luckily, the voters of Jersey City are smarter than the Hudson County Democratic Organization realizes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 701 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2003 at 09:32:40 Subject: Jersey Journal: Doria lawyer targets many provisional votes Pols wrangling as count goes on Doria lawyer targets many provisional votes Jersey Journal Tuesday, June 10, 2003 By Peter Weiss Journal staff writer The counting of provisional ballots cast in the 31st District during last week's Democratic primary continued late last night, even though it won't change the results. However, once the count is complete, a recount of all ballots cast in the district is expected to be requested by Assemblyman Joseph V. Doria Jr. of Bayonne. Doria, who is also mayor of Bayonne, lost his bid for nomination to a 13th term in the Legislature. He and first-term Assemblywoman Elba Perez-Cinciarelli of Jersey City were defeated in the primary by Bayonne Councilman Anthony Chiappone and former county Freeholder Louis Manzo of Jersey City. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 702 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2003 at 09:35:33 Subject: Jersey Journal: Hudson Dems making peace? Hudson Dems making peace? Cunningham may fill senator's seat early Jersey Journal Tuesday, June 10, 2003 By Peter Weiss Journal staff writer Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham might become a state senator sooner than expected, in what could be a first step in trying to heal a bitter rift in Hudson Democratic Party ranks. Cunningham won a bitter primary Tuesday for the Democratic nomination to succeed retiring Sen. Joseph Charles of Jersey City. Gov. James E. McGreevey has already said he will nominate Charles to become a Superior Court judge. For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 703 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2003 at 08:24:53 Subject: Peter Weiss: Bayonne spoiler or star? Jersey Journal Wednesday, June 11, 2003 Peter Weiss . . . Some observers, especially in the Hudson County Democratic Organization, think Militello was nothing more than a "spoiler" in the race who didn't have a chance to win but cost them the victory. Some of them believe that without Militello in the race their candidate, Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith, would have defeated Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham for the Senate nomination. The figures don't seem to bear that out. . . . For the complete piece, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 704 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2003 at 08:28:11 Subject: Jersey Journal: Cunningham camp shuns reorganization Cunningham camp shuns reorganization Jersey Journal Wednesday, June 11, 2003 By Peter Weiss Journal staff writer Sen. Bernard Kenny of Hoboken is expected to be re-elected Hudson County Democratic chairman tonight without opposition - because the opposition isn't expected to show up. Democratic county committee members aligned with Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham and Kearny Mayor Al Santos, both of whom are battling with the Hudson County Democratic Organization, planned to stay away from the annual reorganization meeting at Schuetzen Park in North Bergen. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN NEWS STAFF posted Message 705 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2003 at 12:06:10 Subject: UTN News: JERSEY CITY REFORM DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE REORGANIZES-CHALLENGES HCDO REORG UTN NEWS STAFF ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aneesah posted Message 706 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2003 at 12:25:14 Subject: Re: UTN News: JERSEY CITY REFORM DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE REORGANIZES-CHALLENGES HCDO REORG : UTN NEWS STAFF The you to the Jersey City Reform Democratic Organization for taking a stand, God is truely with us, keep up the good work and don't let anything stop you for working hard for the people: Concern Jersey City Productive Member Aneesah ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chako Boba posted Message 707 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2003 at 13:46:20 Subject: Brother Bill stopped off on the way home Brother Bill stopped off on the way home From couples counseling with GF to sit in Governor's box at nets game with other notables. Bill took credit for Glenn's primary win in 31st district. Lotta folks in JC did a lotta work, none of them named Ayala. Ayala was going to school when he was not busy fighting with his GF...Credit where credit is due.. Not Ayala, brother He was studying for law school and was not even int the office most of the time during the campaign ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aneesah posted Message 708 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2003 at 14:27:13 Subject: Re: Peter Weiss: Bayonne spoiler or star? : : Jersey Journal : Wednesday, June 11, 2003 : Peter Weiss : . . . : Some observers, especially in the Hudson County Democratic Organization, think Militello was nothing more than a "spoiler" in the race who didn't have a chance to win but cost them the victory. Some of them believe that without Militello in the race their candidate, Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith, would have defeated Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham for the Senate nomination. : The figures don't seem to bear that out. : . . . : For the complete piece, see the Link Neither spoiler or star the Mayor would have won anyway Why? because the people in Jersey City love the Mayor, he's a great man and role model for our community: Aneesah ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE BOOKIE posted Message 709 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2003 at 16:09:35 Subject: Re: UTN News: JERSEY CITY REFORM DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE REORGANIZES-CHALLENGES HCDO REORG BOBBY JACKSON WILL OVERSEE THE MONEY? NOW THAT IS A SCARY THOUGHT>> ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN NEWS posted Message 710 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2003 at 16:54:39 Subject: IT’S OFFICIAL-MANZO&CHIAPPONE IN 31ST Urban Times News Northern New Jersey’s Information Leader UTN NEWS email: stories@urbantimesnews.com Jersey City—At about 4:30 June 11, 2003 Hudson County Election officials certified primary results with Anthony Chiappone and Lou Manzo clear winners. Chiappone had 11,054 votes, Manzo, 10,997. Totals leave a comfortable gap of 481 votes between Manzo’s tally and Doria. Bayonne Mayor and former Assemblyman Joe Doria got 10,516 votes and former Assemblywoman Elba Perez Cinciarelli 9,607. Observers noted the big disparity between Cinciarelli’s total and her running mate indicated little or no support or team approach, more than twice the difference between winning and losing totals. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fly On The Wall posted Message 711 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2003 at 21:41:50 Subject: Wally Gets Edgie Isn't it strange that Wally Edge (aka The Donald) on politicsnj.com lists Cunningham's chief of staff Brother Bill as one of the Winners of the week. YET fails to list Cunningham himself. After all Glenn is the one who DID WIN BIG. It's obvious that Wally /The Donald is up to his old tricks. Note to Wally - Feeling a little edgie ? You should be more concerned about the Grand Jury. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 712 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2003 at 08:46:13 Subject: Jersey Journal: Kenny's quest for peace Kenny's quest for peace Jersey Journal Friday, June 13, 2003 As expected, Sen. Bernard Kenny of Hoboken was re-elected Hudson County Democratic chairman without opposition Wednesday night. That's because the opposition, whose leader is Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, stayed home. The mayor, himself, was on vacation after his hard-fought victory in the 31st District Democratic primary for Senate against the Hudson County Democratic Organization choice, Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frank Lloyd Wright posted Message 713 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2003 at 15:10:00 Subject: Architectural Disgust Architectural Disgust Annual Award for Architect of the Year goes to Brother Bill Ayala. Architect extraordinaire. Of what exactly he is the architect we have no clue. But he gets the award for sure. Congratulations Brother Bill ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 714 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2003 at 11:04:47 Subject: Losses in the Primary Leave Menendez Shaken Losses in the Primary Leave Menendez Shaken That noise is Menendez's power slipping away New York Times New Jersey Section On Politics 6/15/2003 By Raymond Hernandez WASHINGTON Only weeks ago, Robert Menendez was at the peak of his power: the Hud- son County leader whom many New Jersey politicians courted, the No. 3 Democrat in the entire House of Rep- resentatives. But on primary night, Mr. Menen- dez may have been dealt the most se- vere political blow he has suffered in his rise to power, stirring a buzz within the state's political establish- ment. Even as he remained a solid and visible force on the national scene, Mr. Menendez watched as a slate of candidates he supported back home took a beating in the primary elec- tions. The night's results would have been bad enough on their own. But the defeat came at the hands of Mr. Menendez's biggest rival in Hudson County, Glenn D. Cunningham, the Democratic mayor of Jersey City. The unofficial election results from the June 3 primary also deliv- ered bad news for a leading Menen- dez ally, Joseph V. Doria, a former Assembly speaker who lost his seat by about 500 votes to Louis Manzo. Mr. Doria, who is challenging the results, sided with Mr. Menendez in his protracted struggle with Mr. Cun- ningham over who would control the county party, according to Demo- cratic strategists. But for Mr. Menendez, the news was even worse. Mr. Cunningham won his own primary, getting the nomination for State Senate in the 31st District over Harvey Smith, who had the support of Mr. Menendez and Governor McGreevey. The victory was a testament to the powerful base that Mr. Cunningham has put together in Jersey City - right under the nose of Mr. Menen- dez. It also helps establish Mr. Cun- ningham, a former United States marshal, as a force to be reckoned with in state Democratic politics. If Mr. Cunningham wins in No- vember, he will have an even loftier platform from which to challenge Mr. Menendez. The tradition of sena- torial courtesy, for example, gives a state senator veto power over any political appointment in his district. Mr. Cunningham seemed to go out of his way to taunt Mr. Menendez af- ter the votes were counted. "Not only did I win, but my whole slate won," Mr. Cunningham said. "What it means is that the time of machine tactics is dead, and that the negative campaign tactics that peo- ple use is a turnoff to the people. Me- nendez is a good congressman, but he wants to be other things. He shouldn't be trying to run cities, and now, others are seeing that they can be free from the machine." Mr. Cunningham once called Mr. Menendez "a political terrorist" and demanded that he resign as head of the Hudson County Democratic Party. The defiance shown by Mr. Cunningham, who wants to establish his own power base, has been nothing less than astounding, especially con- sidering the power wielded by Mr. Menendez, who has spent the last few years tightening his grip on Hudson County, a huge source of votes for any Democrat seeking statewide of- fice. "He has used that position to grab power for himself like a modern-day Boss Hague," Mr. Cunningham said, referring to Frank Hague, the Jersey City mayor and Democratic boss who ruled Hudson County from 1917 to 1947. "He has created havoc in Hudson County." The primary results were a re- markable reversal of political for- tune for Mr. Cunningham, who had been an increasingly isolated figure in Hudson County Democratic poli- tics since being elected mayor in 2001 with the support of Mr. Menen- dez, a six-term congressman who played a pivotal role in the campaign to elect Mr. McGreevey. More than a year ago found him- self on the losing end of a power struggle between himself and Mr. Menendez over who would succeed the former Hudson County execu- tive, Robert C. Janiszewski, who had resigned. It would be premature to start writing the political obituary of Mr. Menendez, who stopped Robert G. Torricelli's plans to seek the party's nomination for governor in 2001 even before they got off the ground. But Mr. Menendez does seem to have his hands full these days. Not only does he have problems with Mr. Cunningham, but he has also been tangling with Mr. McGreevey. A few weeks ago, Mr. Menendez publicly rebuked the governor , ac- cusing him of neglecting the Hispan- ic community by withdrawing his support for Zulima Farber, of Cuban descent, for the state Supreme Court. The governor himself refused to fire back publicly. But people close to him did not, saying that Mr. Menen- dez was engaging in ethnic politics to mobilize his Hispanic base in Hudson County, where Mr. Cunningham has encouraged Democrats to challenge the congressman for his seat. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez is Finished posted Message 715 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2003 at 22:04:56 Subject: Paul Byrne "On the Record" Bobby J Taped Menendez here is the link Click on view archive ENJOY http://www.njn.net/television/njnseries/ontherecord/ ***************** End Of Article ****************** scarface posted Message 716 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2003 at 09:38:35 Subject: HCDO is Organized and Criminal Gangster party runs our county and towns. Except JC. Remaining pockets of HCDO in JC must be chased out. Including County Seat, hub of Scarinci Menendez and formerly Bobby J network of institutionalized bribery All of the underbosses and all of their buttons, soldiers and stooges ***************** End Of Article ****************** observer posted Message 717 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2003 at 13:01:05 Subject: Redevelopment of the Jersey City Medical Center Complex Jersey City Redevelopment Agency Regular Commissioners Meeting Tuesday, June 17th, 6PM, 30 Montgomery Street Item G. A presentation by George Filopoulos of Baldwin Assest Urban Renewal Co., LLC on the proposed re-use of the Medical Center complex. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pat O'Melia posted Message 718 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2003 at 15:48:01 Subject: Show topics Tonites guest, Former Dir of the JCPA Carmine Venezia, topic todays JCPA, The Nidia Colon trial why her and not the others? all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio, Hudson County's Talking toll free to call and have your voice heard! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aneesah posted Message 719 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2003 at 14:50:29 Subject: Re: Show topics : Tonites guest, Former Dir of the JCPA Carmine Venezia, topic todays JCPA, The Nidia Colon trial why her and not the others? all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio, Hudson County's Talking toll free to call and have your voice heard! Thay are not public figures: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aneesah posted Message 720 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2003 at 14:55:08 Subject: Re: Losses in the Primary Leave Menendez Shaken : Losses in the Primary Leave Menendez Shaken : That noise is Menendez's power slipping away : New York Times : New Jersey Section : On Politics : 6/15/2003 : By Raymond Hernandez : WASHINGTON : Only weeks ago, : Robert Menendez : was at the peak of : his power: the Hud- : son County leader : whom many New : Jersey politicians : courted, the No. 3 : Democrat in the entire House of Rep- : resentatives. : But on primary night, Mr. Menen- : dez may have been dealt the most se- : vere political blow he has suffered in : his rise to power, stirring a buzz : within the state's political establish- : ment. : Even as he remained a solid and : visible force on the national scene, : Mr. Menendez watched as a slate of : candidates he supported back home : took a beating in the primary elec- : tions. : The night's results would have : been bad enough on their own. But : the defeat came at the hands of Mr. : Menendez's biggest rival in Hudson : County, Glenn D. Cunningham, the : Democratic mayor of Jersey City. : The unofficial election results : from the June 3 primary also deliv- : ered bad news for a leading Menen- : dez ally, Joseph V. Doria, a former : Assembly speaker who lost his seat : by about 500 votes to Louis Manzo. : Mr. Doria, who is challenging the : results, sided with Mr. Menendez in : his protracted struggle with Mr. Cun- : ningham over who would control the : county party, according to Demo- : cratic strategists. : But for Mr. Menendez, the news : was even worse. Mr. Cunningham : won his own primary, getting the : nomination for State Senate in the : 31st District over Harvey Smith, who : had the support of Mr. Menendez and : Governor McGreevey. : The victory was a testament to the : powerful base that Mr. Cunningham : has put together in Jersey City - : right under the nose of Mr. Menen- : dez. : It also helps establish Mr. Cun- : ningham, a former United States : marshal, as a force to be reckoned : with in state Democratic politics. : If Mr. Cunningham wins in No- : vember, he will have an even loftier : platform from which to challenge : Mr. Menendez. The tradition of sena- : torial courtesy, for example, gives a : state senator veto power over any : political appointment in his district. : Mr. Cunningham seemed to go out : of his way to taunt Mr. Menendez af- : ter the votes were counted. : "Not only did I win, but my whole : slate won," Mr. Cunningham said. : "What it means is that the time of : machine tactics is dead, and that the : negative campaign tactics that peo- : ple use is a turnoff to the people. Me- : nendez is a good congressman, but : he wants to be other things. He : shouldn't be trying to run cities, and : now, others are seeing that they can : be free from the machine." : Mr. Cunningham once called Mr. : Menendez "a political terrorist" and : demanded that he resign as head of the : Hudson County Democratic Party. : The defiance shown by Mr. Cunningham, : who wants to establish his own power : base, has been nothing : less than astounding, especially con- : sidering the power wielded by Mr. : Menendez, who has spent the last few : years tightening his grip on Hudson : County, a huge source of votes for : any Democrat seeking statewide of- : fice. : "He has used that position to grab : power for himself like a modern-day : Boss Hague," Mr. Cunningham said, : referring to Frank Hague, the Jersey : City mayor and Democratic boss : who ruled Hudson County from 1917 : to 1947. "He has created havoc in : Hudson County." : The primary results were a re- : markable reversal of political for- : tune for Mr. Cunningham, who had : been an increasingly isolated figure : in Hudson County Democratic poli- : tics since being elected mayor in : 2001 with the support of Mr. Menen- : dez, a six-term congressman who : played a pivotal role in the campaign : to elect Mr. McGreevey. : More than a year ago found him- : self on the losing end of a power : struggle between himself and Mr. : Menendez over who would succeed : the former Hudson County execu- : tive, Robert C. Janiszewski, who had : resigned. : It would be premature to start : writing the political obituary of Mr. : Menendez, who stopped Robert G. : Torricelli's plans to seek the party's : nomination for governor in 2001 even : before they got off the ground. : But Mr. Menendez does seem to : have his hands full these days. Not : only does he have problems with Mr. : Cunningham, but he has also been : tangling with Mr. McGreevey. : A few weeks ago, Mr. Menendez : publicly rebuked the governor , ac- : cusing him of neglecting the Hispan- : ic community by withdrawing his : support for Zulima Farber, of Cuban : descent, for the state Supreme Court. : The governor himself refused to : fire back publicly. But people close to : him did not, saying that Mr. Menen- : dez was engaging in ethnic politics to : mobilize his Hispanic base in Hudson : County, where Mr. Cunningham has : encouraged Democrats to challenge : the congressman for his seat. : God Bless All Of Us: He Know's What we Don't: Aneesah ***************** End Of Article ****************** NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND posted Message 721 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2003 at 15:48:12 Subject: Re: Show topics ;;;;THAY???????????????? What a shame they didn't have this program when you attended school! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Greg Baumgarten posted Message 722 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2003 at 07:33:57 Subject: Re: Show topics : : Tonites guest, Former Dir of the JCPA Carmine Venezia, topic todays JCPA, The Nidia Colon trial why her and not the others? all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio, Hudson County's Talking toll free to call and have your voice heard! : : Thay are not public figures: Aneesah is obviosly Bobby Jackson without Steve Glazer correcting the spelling. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aneesah posted Message 723 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2003 at 08:24:31 Subject: Re: Show topics : ;;;;THAY???????????????? What a shame they didn't have this program when you attended school! God Bless All Of Us: Aneesah ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good Spell posted Message 724 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2003 at 09:16:38 Subject: Re: Show topics : : : Tonites guest, Former Dir of the JCPA Carmine Venezia, topic todays JCPA, The Nidia Colon trial why her and not the others? all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio, Hudson County's Talking toll free to call and have your voice heard! : : : : Thay are not public figures: : Aneesah is obviosly Bobby Jackson without Steve Glazer correcting the spelling. can we assume that would be your best attempt at "obviously" ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jr. Gmen posted Message 725 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2003 at 09:20:48 Subject: Nidia Knew What we all knew. Did she think it was wrong, too? She did not get any part of it for herself? Her boyfriend Kept it all? It was an isolated incident? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BKbroiler posted Message 726 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2003 at 09:25:39 Subject: Don't shoot GMen, We're coming out! All of us Bernie Kennie,Florio, Booth, Tom DeGise, Bill Gaughan, Junior, Vega, Dave Roberts, ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan Eason posted Message 727 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2003 at 11:12:45 Subject: Cunningham Endorsed by AFL-CIO Cunningham Endorsed by AFL-CIO ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN posted Message 728 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2003 at 13:02:24 Subject: Subject to Confirmation From The New Jersey Lawyer: LONG-TIME LEGISLATOR NOMINATED TO SUPERIOR COURT Gov. James E. McGreevey is nominating Sen. Joseph Charles Jr. (D-Hudson) to the bench. A senator in the 31st Legislative District since last year, Charles had served in the Assembly since 1982. He is a partner in the Newark firm Ashley & Charles and a member of the Garden State Bar Association. Charles served as a deputy attorney general in 1970-71 and has chaired and served on a number of legislative committees, including Budget and Administration. He was admitted to the state bar in 1969 after graduating from Rutgers Law School-Newark. His nomination heads to the Senate Judiciary Committee for a hearing and must be confirmed by the full Senate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SHOW ME THE MONEY! posted Message 729 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2003 at 13:29:07 Subject: Re: Cunningham Endorsed by AFL-CIO PROVE IT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN MUST GO if we want peace! posted Message 730 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2003 at 15:01:44 Subject: The real truth! SCAM SCAM SCAM! http://www.nj.com/columns/jjournal/morgan/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/105601769683570.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** TRULY YOURS posted Message 731 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2003 at 17:48:13 Subject: Re: The real truth! : SCAM SCAM SCAM! : http://www.nj.com/columns/jjournal/morgan/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/105601769683570.xml HCDO! HCDO! HCDO! HCDO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN MUST GO! posted Message 732 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2003 at 18:29:49 Subject: Now Now Stan! : : SCAM SCAM SCAM! : : http://www.nj.com/columns/jjournal/morgan/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/105601769683570.xml : HCDO! HCDO! HCDO! HCDO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOW NOW, JIM posted Message 733 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2003 at 19:25:41 Subject: Re: Now Now Stan! : : : SCAM SCAM SCAM! : : : http://www.nj.com/columns/jjournal/morgan/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/105601769683570.xml : : HCDO! HCDO! HCDO! HCDO! YOU GUYS IN ORGANIZED CRIME ARE SHAMELESS!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE TRUTH WILL SeT YOU FREE! posted Message 734 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2003 at 21:57:41 Subject: YOU SHOULD KNOW, GIVEN WHO YOU WORK FOR! : : : : SCAM SCAM SCAM! : : : : http://www.nj.com/columns/jjournal/morgan/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/105601769683570.xml : : : HCDO! HCDO! HCDO! HCDO! will set you free! : : YOU GUYS IN ORGANIZED 529 ARE SHAMELESS!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JayCJay posted Message 735 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2003 at 15:18:36 Subject: NIDIA-QUEEN OF HEARTS What she did for love. Priceless. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO FAN CLUB posted Message 736 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2003 at 15:22:42 Subject: WHAT SHE DID FOR LOVE GREATER GUILE HATH NO MAN. FREE THE HUDSON 55. NIDIA "NERVOUS" COLON --ALL EXPENSE HONEYMOON CLUB FED... ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN BLAH BLAH BLAH! posted Message 737 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2003 at 15:37:13 Subject: Re: NIDIA-QUEEN OF HEARTS Steven Glazer = JaycJay= A.A. and we not talkin American Airlines! ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE CAUSE posted Message 738 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2003 at 16:04:05 Subject: FREE THE HUDSON 47 FAT JOE, TOO ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sueeey!!! posted Message 739 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2003 at 19:02:39 Subject: Squealing Pig What's that noise coming from Bayonne? Each time votes are counted the squeals get louder and more high-pitched. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom posted Message 740 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2003 at 21:35:49 Subject: Re: Running in quicksand Bob Mendez is a worthy selection. Considering the machine politics which we all were thrown into he did his best to bring some decency back to politics. Yes one does learn from Billy V. Musto, but it's what not to do. I was born in Hoboken in 1952 and it was a pleasure to have met Robert Mendez and see something other than the run of the mill politics that never changed to come along. Having seen what the Cuban people went through in coming to this country and being presented with the machine politics of Hudson County , it was refeshing to see the usual crowd get shoved out. Why the Cuban people let the Elian Gonzolez thing go the way it did is beyond me. It should have been an issue of child welfare. DYFS would certainly have stepped it to protect the welfare of the child and not returned him to Cuba. For people to stand by and having had insulted Elians mother to the point of making her look like a bad mom in putting him in the water, has made me very angry. She chose such rather than let him remain in what she and I saw as a repressive country. Janet Reno should be ashamed for not having invoked child protective services. It was very disrespectful to the mother. She saw it being of a greater danger to leave the child in Cuba than to put him in the water. She was not an ill person or recklessly endangering the welfare of the child. Rather Janet Reno did. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Laughing @ Bill's Bull posted Message 741 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2003 at 22:07:29 Subject: Re: Brother Bill stopped off on the way home Is anyone actually surprised that someone as talentless as Brother Bill would take credit for the work and efforts of others? Does anyone take him seriously? Here is a little boy who is so intimidated by others that he attempts to isolate the king from the influence of those smarter than him....in other words.....everyone. And by the way....a note to Bill....Lights and Sirens are supposed to be reserved for EMERGENCIES ONLY!!! CRASH.....GOES THE KING'S LITTLE BOY. : Brother Bill stopped off on the way home From couples counseling with GF to sit in Governor's box at nets game with other notables. Bill took credit for Glenn's primary win in 31st district. Lotta folks in JC did a lotta work, none of them named Ayala. Credit where credit is due.. Not Ayala, brother; He was not even in the office most of the time during the campaign ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marty posted Message 742 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2003 at 13:54:29 Subject: Jersey Journal: New legal fight looms in primary aftermath New legal fight looms in primary aftermath Jersey Journal Saturday, June 21, 2003 Peter Weiss Three weeks after the voting, the 31st District Democratic primary fight is still far from over, and a new twist looms if the Hudson County Democratic Organization decides to test a law regarding excess campaign contributions in its efforts to overturn the results. . . . But HCDO leaders say they now have reason to believe this spending continued, and that it reached an amount that could cause the courts to void the primary election results. If - and it seems like an awfully big if - that happened, new Democratic candidates for the general election would be picked by Democratic county committee members living in the 31st District. . . . For the complete piece, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** De lev er ance! posted Message 743 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2003 at 22:40:08 Subject: Re: Squealing Pig That sound is Steven Glazer being boinged by the boyz! ***************** End Of Article ****************** De lev er ance! posted Message 744 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2003 at 22:40:09 Subject: Re: Squealing Pig That sound is Steven Glazer being boinged by the boyz! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now that is funny..Stevie Sueeeeeeeeey!!!!!! yes he is a pig. posted Message 745 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 23, 2003 at 07:48:50 Subject: Re: Squealing Pig LOL ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC don't posted Message 746 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 23, 2003 at 13:48:54 Subject: Vaya Con Huevos Hasta Menendez, Nidia. Next. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 747 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 23, 2003 at 14:29:04 Subject: HCT topics for tonite. NIdia guilty! who fills her seat? the Doria recount, JC Mayor Glenn D Cunningham vetos old JC med center transfer to JCRA. All this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio, Hudson County's Talking toll free to call and have your voice heard! ***************** End Of Article ****************** U.S. Attorney's Office, District of New Jersey Press Release posted Message 748 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 23, 2003 at 19:18:01 Subject: Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon Convicted for Passing Bribes to Janiszewski 2003-06-23 -- Davila-Colon, Nidia -- Conviction -- News Release Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon Convicted for Passing Bribes to Janiszewski NEWARK - Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon was convicted by a federal jury today on all five counts against her, including charges that she passed cash bribes from a Hudson County psychiatrist to then-Hudson County Executive Robert C. Janiszewski, U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie announced. During her three-week trial before U.S. District Judge William G. Bassler, Davila-Colon admitted that she passed an envelope containing a $5,000 cash payoff to Janiszewski at a political fund-raising event on Oct. 15, 1999. The $5,000 cash bribe, which was from Davila-Colon's psychiatrist boyfriend Oscar Sandoval and given to Janiszewski, came several weeks after Sandoval won $2.3 million in county contracts to render psychiatric services at a county hospital and a county correctional facility, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey D. Clark. Davila-Colon, 49, a Hudson County Freeholder for the past 19 years, is the longest serving female politician in the state. Sandoval, who cooperated with the government, has not been charged by the government with any wrongdoing. "This verdict reaffirms our belief that if you break the law as a public official, you will be held accountable," Christie said. "We will continue our fight to give New Jersey a clean and honest government at all levels." According to the five-count Indictment, Davila-Colon passed two $5,000 cash payments to Janiszewski at events in September and October 1999. She also had discussions with both Janiszewski and Sandoval about the cash payments and his contracts, which were coming up for renewal. At one point, according to the Indictment, Davila-Colon suggested including in an envelope with the cash a note to Janiszewski inquiring about the status of Sandoval's contracts. The Indictment also alleges that Davila-Colon resisted Sandoval's suggestion that he personally pass the cash to Janiszewski, telling him that her participation as Janiszewski's intermediary was necessary because, "If he goes down, I go down"; and "My career is on the line and his is too . . . if we go, we both go down." Count One to Count Three of the Indictment charge that Davila-Colon's conduct was part of a scheme to defraud the Hudson County government and the citizens of Hudson County of their right to the honest services of their elected officials - herself and Janiszewski. Those counts charge mail fraud, in that the U.S. mails were used to further the scheme to conceal the corrupt payments made to Janiszewski and Davila-Colon's role in making those payments. Each of these counts carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Counts Four and Five of the Indictment charge that Davila-Colon aided and abetted Janiszewski's attempted extortion under color of official right. Each of these counts carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Judge Bassler set sentencing for Sept. 29, 2003 at 10 a.m. Under U.S. Sentencing Guidelines, Judge Bassler will determine an actual sentence based upon a formula that takes into account the severity and characteristics of the offense, and the defendant's criminal history, if any. Parole has been abolished in the federal system. Under Sentencing Guidelines, defendants who are given custodial terms must serve nearly all that time. Christie credited Special Agents of the FBI in Newark, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Louie F. Allen, for their work in developing the case. Christie gave special thanks to the Hudson County Public Corruption Task Force, comprised of the FBI, IRS, the New Jersey State Police, and the Hudson County Prosecutor's Office. The Government is represented by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Jeffrey D. Clark and Phillip Kwon, of the U.S. Attorney's Office in Newark. -end- Defense Attorney: Peter Willis, Esq. Jersey City John Young, Esq. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The hog smell covers up the booze smell.... posted Message 749 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 23, 2003 at 23:26:23 Subject: Stevie Sueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey !!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why not posted Message 750 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 24, 2003 at 12:17:59 Subject: HCDO Pushing for Poll Tax? ANy truth to the rumor that HCDO is pushing for a poll tax? Something about "achieving a level playing field..." ***************** End Of Article ****************** fat jo posted Message 751 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 24, 2003 at 14:17:52 Subject: Suuueeeyyy I don't get it ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pat O'Melia posted Message 752 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 24, 2003 at 18:07:58 Subject: The Jersey City Parking Authority Meeting of the Board: June 17, 2003 See the Link for Online audio. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Brian must be rolling Maggie! posted Message 753 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2003 at 12:07:08 Subject: Re: BOBBY JACKSON You are a pittiful soul Doyle! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Taxation w/o Representation posted Message 754 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2003 at 08:47:32 Subject: HCDO MINITAX SCAM INCREASES COUNTY TAXES DeGise's Minitax is all grown up now and will appear on your next tax bill in every Hudson County municipality except East Newark. DeGise said that there would be no increase although he knew when he said it there would be. Dugan, Fitzgibbons, Braker, all of them, went along obediently and voted the HCDO partyline ditto all of them except Bill O'Dea. What's a little more highway robbery? Have a little more Kool-Aid if you have any discomfort and soon you will feel nothing at all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 755 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2003 at 17:23:49 Subject: Tonites show topics. History and the future of the Landmark Loews Theatre with FOL Pres Patty Giordan, Winds of political change in Jesrey City, 5 year old from Sayerville booted from school for holding his hand like a gun! all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking toll free to call and have your voice heard! ***************** End Of Article ****************** MICHAEL ANGELO PRISCO posted Message 756 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2003 at 21:45:42 Subject: Re: HUDSON COUNTY CAMPAIGN BEGINS IN EARNEST WITH SMEAR CAMPAIGN : HUDSON COUNTY CAMPAIGN BEGINS IN EARNEST WITH SMEAR CAMPAIGN : Urban Times News : April 11-April 17, 2003 : UTN NEWS ANALYSIS : JERSEY CITY "I would like : nothing better than for the so-called organi- : zation to come at us with everything they : think they have," said Mayor Glenn : Cunningham is response to a press release : from the Hudson County Democratic : Organization hinting at irregularities in his : campaign fundraising. : "The best thing that could happen : is for a state investigation of the campaign : finance of Cunningham for Mayor and : other committees," said Cunningham. : "This is a farce. Just look what we have : here. Just the stationary is hysterical. The : list of committee officers reads like the : Hudson County payroll and the Hudson : County Improvement Authority. This is : exactly what I have been talking about. : Most of the persons who have obstructed : the operation of good government in Jersey : City are listed as some officer, and almost : without exception, they all have jobs as well : with the County of Hudson or The Hudson : County Improvement Authority. That is the : 'organization.' "Please note who is 'treasur- : er' " said Cunningham, pointing to the name : of Donald Scarinci. : Scarinci was recently implicated : in the scandal involving the State Parole : Board's release of Genovese crime family : Capo Angelo Prisco. Prisco was denied : parole twice, but then hired Scarinci and : was then paroled and released shortly after : retaining Scarinci's legal services. Scarinci : denied that there was any impropriety or : undue influence involved in the Parole : Board's decision. But the office of US : Attorney Christopher Christie has begun an : investigation into charges that the Parole : board was pressured by Governor : McGreevey's office to grant the parole after : Prisco retained Scarinci to represent him. : State Senator Robert Martin R-Morris said : that there had not only been interference : from the Governor's office in the Parole : Board's decision on Prisco's parole, but in : other cases as well. : Scarinici is an attorney who is : paired with Congressman Bob Menendez : D- 13 and is also Treasurer of Menendez for : Congress. Together the two are sometimes : referred to as the Don and the Donald, hav- : ing risen ranidlv together over the last 15 : years through Hudson County politics to : become power figures on the state and : national level. Scarinci founded his law : firm at the same time Menendez began his : political career and has grown his shop to : one of the top law firms in the state in a phe- : nomenally short time, and now including 46 : attorneys with annual billings in excess of : $20 Million. Menendez followed a parallel : track simultaneously mirroring the ascen- : dancy of his high school pal in public life : and is now considered the third ranking : democrat in the House of Representatives. : "I wonder if either of them could have done : so much in so short a time with out a little : help from the other, one hand washing the : other." : Ed Cheatham is the supposed : source of all the comments in the so-called : release from the HCDO. It is doubtful that : Cheatham has had as much to say in his : entire public life as is quoted in the release. : The normally taciturn Board of Education : member happens to be African American : and can disparage Cunningham at will with- : out risk of even the appearance of racism : from the white-dominated Hudson County : Democratic Organization. Cunningham's con- : stituency is widely diverse, but centered in the pre- : dominantly African American Ward F of : Jersey City at the center of the 31 st District : Senate Race. "By using Cheatham, it's like : they use Uncle Harvey, trying to make it : look like different members of the commu- : nity are against Glenn," said Cunningham's : advisors. "It is exactly like Harvey-another : case of biting the hand that fed you. : Cheatham may have forgotten but we did : not. Maybe this would be a good opportu- : nity to remind him of the real reason that he : "resigned," from the Port Authority." : The real reason Cheatham left the : Port Authority was that a locker search : turned up a quantity of contraband, accord- : ing to those unimpeachable sources, who in : fact advised Cheatham at the time of the : incident. Cheatham was given the opportu- : nity to resign with benefits and without : scandal, or if he chose to fight, he would : risk termination, loss of all benefits, and : even prosecution on drug charges. : Cheatham wisely took the deal and left the : Port Authority without a commotion but had : always remained guarded about his true rea- : son for leaving Angelo Prisco is a great grandfather and Dad, leave the guy alone, he is innoccent of any wrong doing, he served his time. He was denied parole twice and was a model prisoner, has diabetes and had a triple bypass in jail, he is 63 years old. He has 4 children, 6 grand children and the only thing he is the boss of is his family, THE PRISCO FAMILY ***************** End Of Article ****************** hmm mmm makes me woder. posted Message 757 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2003 at 01:47:36 Subject: Voter fraud is it possible? Court hears dispute over election Saturday, June 28, 2003 BY DIANE C. WALSH Star-Ledger Staff A lawyer for Assemblywoman Arline Friscia argued in court yesterday there were so many irregularities in the Democratic primary for the 19th District seat that the results should be thrown out. But a lawyer for one the winners, Perth Amboy Mayor Joseph Vas, said there was no proof to the allegations. Superior Court Judge Yolanda Ciccone will issue a ruling July 8 on whether Friscia can challenge the election. Friscia, a four-time legislator, lost the hotly contested election by 732 votes. Vas and Assemblyman John Wisniewski won the Democratic nomination. Friscia lawyer, David Tykulsker of Montclair, is asking Ciccone for permission to amend a lawsuit originally filed two weeks ago. He said Friscia's campaign staff combed the voting records and found the signatures of 456 voters do not match the signatures in the registration books. Furthermore, he charged 300 voters are not U.S. citizens, and the voter authorization slips could not be found for 298 voters. Frank Capece, a Westfield lawyer representing Vas, said called Tykulsker's arguments "wafer-thin." He said there was no proof to the allegations. Capece faulted Friscia for not having even one affidavit from a voter who said he or she was intimidated at the polls. Karen Ballard, a deputy attorney general representing the Middlesex County Board of Elections, said the state did not oppose Friscia's challenge. But Ballard said a 700-vote difference was a "huge burden" for the Friscia to overcome. To succeed in an election challenge, Ballard said the plaintiff must have affidavits and testimony from voters. Diane C. Walsh covers Middlesex County. She can be reached at dwalsh@starledger.com or at (732) 404-8087. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer UTN NEWS posted Message 758 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2003 at 19:01:31 Subject: HCDO EXEC DEGISE RAISES COUNTY TAXES Jersey City—Despite earlier statements to the contrary in late March and April, Hudson County Democratic Organization County Executive Tom DeGise revealed a final budget that will raise taxes throughout Hudson County. The biggest part of the increase will fall on Jersey City and Hoboken. Bill O’Dea was the lone Independent Freeholder to vote no on the measure. All other HCDO Freeholders approved and passed the measure despite pleas from O’Dea and prospective Assembly Lou Manzo to wait and explore ways to avoid the increase. HCDO Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon, hospitalized after testimony in her corruption trial, did not attend. Kabili Tayari, Jersey City NAACP president said that the final budget was very different than the preliminary plan first presented. “You must have known then what the projections were, ” Tayari said. The increase was first revealed only one week after the primary election in which DeGise ran and won. Freeholder Bill O’Dea produced quick statistics to determine the breakdown of the tax increase by each of the 12 municipalities through the County, which O’Dea labeled “VooDoo Economics” East Newark ($10,000) Guttenburg $220,000, Secaucus, $250,000, West New York, $550,000, Harrison $600,000, Kearny$620,000, Union City $800,000 Weehawken, $900,000 Bayonne, $1,500,000, Hoboken $1,800,000 $1,900,000 and Jersey City $6,200,000. The total of DeGise’s “stealth” tax increase is $15,340,000 with the largest single increase by far, falling on Jersey City. Union City Mayor, and HCDO Mayor Freeholder Brian Stack, himself caught on the horns of a dilemma could be seen to stiffen visibly in his seat when O’Dea read out the impact on each towns, including the $800,000 cost to Union City. HCDO Freeholder Maurice Fitzgibbons complained bitterly and at length that Hoboken already was bearing an unfair share of costs but then voted with the HCDO majority to approve the budget, instead of delaying until some remedy might be found as O’Dea suggested. Louis Manzo, recently triumphant in the primary for 31st District Assembly said that “This budget deprives residents of Jersey City of due process.” ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 759 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2003 at 20:05:02 Subject: MENENDEZ LOBBIES FOR TECH VENDOR-MANZO SHOWS FREEHOLDERS “PITCH” LETTER By Steven Glazer Urban Times News ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN NEWS ANALYSIS posted Message 760 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2003 at 07:15:33 Subject: "NOTHING PERSONAL," EARL MORGAN, PAT O'MELIA, AND UNCLE HARVEY TEAM UP FOR HARD-HITTING INVESTIGATIVE EFFORTS UTN NEWS ANALYSIS email: stories@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 761 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2003 at 15:55:41 Subject: Baghdad on the Hudson - The Fall of the Tyrant Vox Populi ***************** End Of Article ****************** Karl Maulden posted Message 762 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2003 at 18:20:23 Subject: Urban Times News in Hoboken? I live in Hoboken. I'm up to the gills reading nothing but the Party line in Pravda. Where can I pick up a copy of the Urban Times News? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Greg Brickey posted Message 763 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2003 at 18:57:16 Subject: Re: MENENDEZ LOBBIES FOR TECH VENDOR-MANZO SHOWS FREEHOLDERS “PITCH” LETTER : By Steven Glazer : Urban Times News : I think the Freeholders should hire Martin Jackson. He rules! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Greg Brickey posted Message 764 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2003 at 18:59:13 Subject: Re: HCDO EXEC DEGISE RAISES COUNTY TAXES : DeGise should hire Kabili Tayari to do his budget. He rules! : : Jersey City—Despite earlier statements to the contrary in late March and April, Hudson County Democratic Organization County Executive Tom DeGise revealed a final budget that will raise taxes throughout Hudson County. The biggest part of the increase will fall on Jersey City and Hoboken. Bill O’Dea was the lone Independent Freeholder to vote no on the measure. All other HCDO Freeholders approved and passed the measure despite pleas from O’Dea and prospective Assembly Lou Manzo to wait and explore ways to avoid the increase. HCDO Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon, hospitalized after testimony in her corruption trial, did not attend. : : Kabili Tayari, Jersey City NAACP president said that the final budget was very different than the preliminary plan first presented. “You must have known then what the projections were, ” Tayari said. The increase was first revealed only one week after the primary election in which DeGise ran and won. Freeholder Bill O’Dea produced quick statistics to determine the breakdown of the tax increase by each of the 12 municipalities through the County, which O’Dea labeled “VooDoo Economics” : East Newark ($10,000) Guttenburg $220,000, Secaucus, $250,000, West New York, $550,000, Harrison $600,000, Kearny$620,000, Union City $800,000 Weehawken, $900,000 Bayonne, $1,500,000, Hoboken $1,800,000 $1,900,000 and Jersey City $6,200,000. The total of DeGise’s “stealth” tax increase is $15,340,000 with the largest single increase by far, falling on Jersey City. : Union City Mayor, and HCDO Mayor Freeholder Brian Stack, himself caught on the horns of a dilemma could be seen to stiffen visibly in his seat when O’Dea read out the impact on each towns, including the $800,000 cost to Union City. HCDO Freeholder Maurice Fitzgibbons complained bitterly and at length that Hoboken already was bearing an unfair share of costs but then voted with the HCDO majority to approve the budget, instead of delaying until some remedy might be found as O’Dea suggested. : Louis Manzo, recently triumphant in the primary for 31st District Assembly said that “This budget deprives residents of Jersey City of due process.” : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Greg Brickey posted Message 765 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2003 at 19:01:22 Subject: Re: "NOTHING PERSONAL," EARL MORGAN, PAT O'MELIA, AND UNCLE HARVEY TEAM UP FOR HARD-HITTING INVESTIGATIVE EFFORTS : UTN NEWS ANALYSIS email: stories@urbantimesnews.com The HCDO should hire Artie Williams. He rules! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lex lucifer posted Message 766 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2003 at 19:32:41 Subject: Re: Urban Times News in Hoboken? They have an office at 529 Bergen Ave. Jersy City ***************** End Of Article ****************** dot commer posted Message 767 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2003 at 19:34:15 Subject: Re: MENENDEZ LOBBIES FOR TECH VENDOR-MANZO SHOWS FREEHOLDERS “PITCH” LETTER Yes he ahs done such a good job with the Jersey City site......... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Money ,money ,money ,got to have it! posted Message 768 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2003 at 19:37:14 Subject: Re: "NOTHING PERSONAL," EARL MORGAN, PAT O'MELIA, AND UNCLE HARVEY TEAM UP FOR HARD-HITTING INVESTIGATIVE EFFORTS :Yes he did such a good job raising money for the J.D. and patti LaBelle let's call his lawyer and set up the interview. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I call it as I see it! posted Message 769 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2003 at 19:40:35 Subject: Re: HCDO EXEC DEGISE RAISES COUNTY TAXES Yes he does so much to set the movement backwards...let's call his office at 529 Bergen and set up the interview. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Duh posted Message 770 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2003 at 16:22:22 Subject: Re: MENENDEZ LOBBIES FOR TECH VENDOR-MANZO SHOWS FREEHOLDERS “PITCH” LETTER : Yes he ahs done such a good job with the Jersey City site......... What has that got to do with Menendez pimping for IT guy? What is missing from your brain? All of it, obviously ***************** End Of Article ****************** Spell check needed for MJ posted Message 771 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2003 at 17:13:52 Subject: Re: MENENDEZ LOBBIES FOR TECH VENDOR-MANZO SHOWS FREEHOLDERS “PITCH” LETTER now now Martin....... ***************** End Of Article ****************** thenderson posted Message 772 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2003 at 18:24:15 Subject: Re: NJN Video: Fraguela Runs For State Senate Against Bernard Kenny : NJN Video: Fraguela Runs For State Senate Against Bernard Kenny : : CLICK HERETo See The Video what up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 773 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2003 at 18:39:46 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson-Essex posted Message 774 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2003 at 16:20:13 Subject: St. Peter's Prep Gets $250K From Taxpayers NJ Politicians Now For School Vouchers? By Charles Suldt When Cory Booker, Rhodes Scholar, Yale University Law School graduate and candidate for mayor of Newark, suggested that low-income parents should have the right to choose their children's school, the political establishment acted as if shaken by a seismic shock. Organization politicians raised a hue and cry against school choice. They contended that giving poor children access to educational opportunity somehow violated basic American principles. We were told that allowing parents to use government funding for tuition at religious schools would tear asunder the separation of Church and State. These supporters of the public school monopoly hailed what they claimed as the equality of the current system. They maintained that using public money for private schools would heighten and worsen social and class distinctions and would be just about the same thing as establishing a caste system. For these self-charged champions of the American Way, the practical reality of wide slices of the population condemned to poverty by failed schools was sad indeed, but, at the same time, a necessary and unavoidable sacrifice for the greater good. This high anxiety concerning educational vouchers resulting in the destruction of America civilization seems to have disappeared like the morning dew. The good news is that two prominent New Jersey's political figures have come out for your tax dollars supporting religious schools. The bad news is that the poor need not apply. Through the efforts of a pair of the top New Jersey Democrats, Senate Co-President Richard J. Codey (Essex) and Senate Minority Leader Bernard F. Kenny (Hudson), New Jersey taxpayers now will fund two of the state's elite Catholic high schools -- Seton Hall Prep of West Orange and Saint Peter's Prep of Jersey City. Thanks to Senator Codey, Seton Hall Prep is to get $250,000 for renovations. Senator Kenny made possible an additional $250,000 for a new sports training field at Saint Peter's Prep. Parents pay $9,430 annually to send a son to Seton Hall Prep (neither school admits female students). The school boasts of a $13,000,000 endowment fund with a goal of $25,000,000. Among the former students are a Ford Motor Company vice-president and a New Jersey State Supreme Court justice. A visitor viewing the vast expanse of the wooded grounds and mansions of the Seton Hall Prep campus could be forgiven for imagining having been transported from New Jersey and even from the twenty-first century; one seems to have stepped into a vision of a deep South plantation manor house of a time before the Civil War. The hard working parents of Newark and Irvington, even though they never can hope to send their children to Seton Hall Prep, now will send their tax dollars there. Saint Peter's Prep charges $6,250 each year per student. The campus is set in Paulus Hook, an exclusive section of the Downtown Jersey City Waterfront. In 1995, a large portion of the school's complex of buildings benefited from a "multi-million dollar facelift." The current fund-raising drive has so far succeeded to the tune of $6,500,000 with a goal or $10,000,000. Among the collection of ambitious projects the school seeks to underwrite is “the construction of a new facility in Sea Bright, NJ.” How many of the hard working taxpayers of Jersey City can even hope to own property at the Shore? Saint Peter's Prep's president Father Keenan explains that as at the present time the proposed athletic field is a vacant lot, the landscaping will yield "green space" that all of Jersey City may enjoy. Presumably, we are supposed to believe that with the many empty lots in Jersey City, it was chance, not favoritism, that resulted in the choice of this particular location for beautification on the taxpayer’s tab. The two-acre site is one block from the school and very close to the Liberty State Park -– where the public is allowed entry. It’s clear that this particular location is valuable to Saint Peter’s. What’s rather blurry, since Liberty State Park is just a stroll away, is the urgent need that the general population of Jersey City feels for “green space” within yelling distance of a Catholic high school. And actually, as the athletic field is to consist of artificial turf, defining it as “green space” is at the very least a stretch of the imagination -– if not a contradiction in terms. In a spirit of benevolence, Saint Peter’s allows that the possibility exists of others being granted permission to use this little field of dreams at those times when Saint Peter's Prep students have no need of it. In the 1960's, through the generosity -- direct and indirect -- of Hudson County political boss John V. Kenny (and Saint Peter's Prep alumnus), the school added an impressive modern building on Warren Street. After a fashion, this Catholic high school has enjoyed a long tradition of taxpayer support. A life-long resident who worked for the City of Jersey City during the reign of J.V.K. reported that a crew of City employees was assigned to "the Little Guy's project," as the Saint Peter's Prep construction site then was known. This was during an era of deferred maintenance for Jersey City's public schools and municipal buildings that produced a downward spiral of decay. Convicted and jailed Jersey City Mayor Thomas Whelan sent his son to Saint Peter’s Prep. Jersey City police were forced to act as chauffeurs, driving young Whelan back and forth each day. Nathan Lane, star of stage and screen, is a Saint Peter’s Prep graduate. In the same ‘70s class as the nascent Broadway comedian was the son of a high ranking Union City official –- until the entire family faded away by entering the Federal witness protection program. (For a little while, he was the only guy in the whole school permitted to attempt a beard. Apparently, the whiskers were intended as a disguise. You see, real life gamblers aren’t necessarily a bunch of lovable Damon Runyon characters, like in Guys and Dolls.) These quarter-million dollar Trenton plums come at time of slashed support for public schools that results in shrinking programs and teacher lay-offs. Plus, the actual legality of direct government subsidies to religious schools is questionable. The Supreme Court decided in favor of vouchers to parents who then might choose to use the funds for parochial tuition. But what the Supreme Court allows is government money going first to the family, not straight to a institution with a religious affiliation. Two Saint Peter's Prep students are Senator Bernard Kenny's sons, as luck would have it. State Senator Kenny was the bearer of the sad tidings concerning the State aid cuts to Jersey City. Bernard Kenny provided the crocodile tears while telling Mayor Glenn Cunningham that the money just was not there. It appears that, when motivated, Senator Kenny is capable of miracles. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County posted Message 775 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2003 at 18:16:30 Subject: Developer builds private school in exclusive community JERSEY CITY, N.J. (AP) — Roman Prilutzky and Lilia Block liked living at Newport so much that three years ago they left their rented apartment and bought a condominium in the private waterfront community. But when it was time for their son, David, to start school, the couple contemplated leaving Newport, and Jersey City, altogether. "That's basically what drives people away from this place," said Prilutzky, 43, a technology chief for a Manhattan software company, who ended up sending his son to private school. Newport's developer agrees. So in a highly unusual arrangement, the Queens-based Lefrak Organization is hoping to reduce its high turnover among families with children by building a 15,000-square-foot private school on the second floor of its newest building. The new home of Jersey City's 16-year-old independent Cornerstone School will have a dozen classrooms, a library, science lab, and large community room, with a capacity of 180 students in grades K-8. As an incentive, Newport residents will receive a 20 percent discount on tuition, which will be $7,000 for the 2003-04 school year. Myra McGovern, a spokeswoman for the National Association of Independent Schools in Washington, said the arrangement is "really not very common at all." "In terms of having private schools being built for the development, and having this type of arrangement, it's not something I've heard of," McGovern said. Jersey City's 30,000-student public school system remains under state control 14 years after it was seized from local hands by the New Jersey Department of Education because of poor student performance. And while McNair Academic High School is consistently among the state's top-performers on standardized tests, perceptions of the district as a whole are still largely negative. So, many Newport parents send their children to private schools. Or they simply move out. That is exactly what construction of the new school is meant to keep from happening, said Jamie LeFrak, a Lefrak managing director. "This is like a self-sufficient, totally functioning medium-sized city," LeFrak said. "Without a school, we were missing a piece of the puzzle." Newport had been looking for a school to affiliate with or relocate to its 600-acre premises, just as the Cornerstone School was looking for a new home after the rent was raised on its old Journal Square location across town. Twenty Newport children were among Cornerstone's 130 students last spring, with their parents' paying $1,500 above tuition for transportation. So Newport knew the school was good enough for the development's affluent, well-educated parents. The match already seems to be working. Most of the 30 new enrollees this fall are coming from Newport, said Terrence Burrowes, Cornerstone's headmaster. A large banner tells residents the school is coming. "I keep getting families with 3- and 4-year-olds who call and say that they are happy to know that we are here in this space and can they put in applications," Burrowes said during a tour of the unfinished space. Newport is a sort of Emerald City of green-tinted office and apartment towers, occupied largely by young professionals, many of them Asian or south Asian immigrants. Many commute to Manhattan using Newport's own PATH station, and Newport residents are not known to venture far into the rest of Jersey City. LeFrak said the per capita income of Newport's 10,000 residents is above $100,000, triple the rest of the city's. Frank Belluscio, a spokesman for the New Jersey School Boards Association, which represents public school districts, cautioned developers against having a kind of bunker mentality toward education. "You can build your own private school," Belluscio said. "But the quality of the public school system is always going to have an impact on the desirability of the community." Newport does have some moderate-income residents in apartments set aside in its first buildings, which were constructed in the 1980s with the help of federal infrastructure grant money and local property tax abatements. William G. Dressel, executive director of the New Jersey League of Municipalities, said that even with a discount, a private school might be too expensive for some Newport residents. "I can see, yes, it might be an important component of a revitalization effort," Dressel said of the private school. But, he added, "We also have to be concerned with the public education system that we have to date, and it does not really address the education needs of all residents." For its part, LeFrak said Newport contributes roughly one-third of the entire city's tax levy, which includes local school funding. Yet Newport accounts for only about 4 percent of the city's population, and has little impact on the public schools. Prilutzky, the technology chief, said he and other Newport residents have talked about breaking away from Jersey City's ills and bills, and forming their own municipality. "I would be very much in favor of this proposal," Prilutzky said. Mayor Glenn Cunningham would not be. "I haven't heard any serious talk about that," said Cunningham, who joked about the prospect. "But that would be a boon to the city, because we would charge them $100 per ounce of water. And access to there would only be through ferry boats." But Cunningham did have a serious concern about Newport's unofficial disassociation from the city, which the new school has the potential to reinforce. "I think that's a problem, you can see that in the number of people who vote," said Cunningham, referring to the area's traditional low turnout. "One of the mayoral candidates said this a couple of years ago, 'if you ask some of the people at Newport who the mayor was, they would say it was Giuliani.'" Cunningham said he had known Cornerstone's late founder, Suzanne Chopp, and called the school "a wonderful institution," and a welcome educational alternative for all city residents. But, he added, "I would also urge Newport to build a public school." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County posted Message 776 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2003 at 18:16:32 Subject: Developer builds private school in exclusive community JERSEY CITY, N.J. (AP) — Roman Prilutzky and Lilia Block liked living at Newport so much that three years ago they left their rented apartment and bought a condominium in the private waterfront community. But when it was time for their son, David, to start school, the couple contemplated leaving Newport, and Jersey City, altogether. "That's basically what drives people away from this place," said Prilutzky, 43, a technology chief for a Manhattan software company, who ended up sending his son to private school. Newport's developer agrees. So in a highly unusual arrangement, the Queens-based Lefrak Organization is hoping to reduce its high turnover among families with children by building a 15,000-square-foot private school on the second floor of its newest building. The new home of Jersey City's 16-year-old independent Cornerstone School will have a dozen classrooms, a library, science lab, and large community room, with a capacity of 180 students in grades K-8. As an incentive, Newport residents will receive a 20 percent discount on tuition, which will be $7,000 for the 2003-04 school year. Myra McGovern, a spokeswoman for the National Association of Independent Schools in Washington, said the arrangement is "really not very common at all." "In terms of having private schools being built for the development, and having this type of arrangement, it's not something I've heard of," McGovern said. Jersey City's 30,000-student public school system remains under state control 14 years after it was seized from local hands by the New Jersey Department of Education because of poor student performance. And while McNair Academic High School is consistently among the state's top-performers on standardized tests, perceptions of the district as a whole are still largely negative. So, many Newport parents send their children to private schools. Or they simply move out. That is exactly what construction of the new school is meant to keep from happening, said Jamie LeFrak, a Lefrak managing director. "This is like a self-sufficient, totally functioning medium-sized city," LeFrak said. "Without a school, we were missing a piece of the puzzle." Newport had been looking for a school to affiliate with or relocate to its 600-acre premises, just as the Cornerstone School was looking for a new home after the rent was raised on its old Journal Square location across town. Twenty Newport children were among Cornerstone's 130 students last spring, with their parents' paying $1,500 above tuition for transportation. So Newport knew the school was good enough for the development's affluent, well-educated parents. The match already seems to be working. Most of the 30 new enrollees this fall are coming from Newport, said Terrence Burrowes, Cornerstone's headmaster. A large banner tells residents the school is coming. "I keep getting families with 3- and 4-year-olds who call and say that they are happy to know that we are here in this space and can they put in applications," Burrowes said during a tour of the unfinished space. Newport is a sort of Emerald City of green-tinted office and apartment towers, occupied largely by young professionals, many of them Asian or south Asian immigrants. Many commute to Manhattan using Newport's own PATH station, and Newport residents are not known to venture far into the rest of Jersey City. LeFrak said the per capita income of Newport's 10,000 residents is above $100,000, triple the rest of the city's. Frank Belluscio, a spokesman for the New Jersey School Boards Association, which represents public school districts, cautioned developers against having a kind of bunker mentality toward education. "You can build your own private school," Belluscio said. "But the quality of the public school system is always going to have an impact on the desirability of the community." Newport does have some moderate-income residents in apartments set aside in its first buildings, which were constructed in the 1980s with the help of federal infrastructure grant money and local property tax abatements. William G. Dressel, executive director of the New Jersey League of Municipalities, said that even with a discount, a private school might be too expensive for some Newport residents. "I can see, yes, it might be an important component of a revitalization effort," Dressel said of the private school. But, he added, "We also have to be concerned with the public education system that we have to date, and it does not really address the education needs of all residents." For its part, LeFrak said Newport contributes roughly one-third of the entire city's tax levy, which includes local school funding. Yet Newport accounts for only about 4 percent of the city's population, and has little impact on the public schools. Prilutzky, the technology chief, said he and other Newport residents have talked about breaking away from Jersey City's ills and bills, and forming their own municipality. "I would be very much in favor of this proposal," Prilutzky said. Mayor Glenn Cunningham would not be. "I haven't heard any serious talk about that," said Cunningham, who joked about the prospect. "But that would be a boon to the city, because we would charge them $100 per ounce of water. And access to there would only be through ferry boats." But Cunningham did have a serious concern about Newport's unofficial disassociation from the city, which the new school has the potential to reinforce. "I think that's a problem, you can see that in the number of people who vote," said Cunningham, referring to the area's traditional low turnout. "One of the mayoral candidates said this a couple of years ago, 'if you ask some of the people at Newport who the mayor was, they would say it was Giuliani.'" Cunningham said he had known Cornerstone's late founder, Suzanne Chopp, and called the school "a wonderful institution," and a welcome educational alternative for all city residents. But, he added, "I would also urge Newport to build a public school." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Newportlady posted Message 777 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2003 at 18:22:06 Subject: Re: Developer builds private school in exclusive community However, will the Mayor do anything about this….LeFrak pays Bobby Jackson close to $20,000.00 a month for being a “consultant” and where does the money go from there? Makes you wonder huh! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Putter Nerd posted Message 778 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2003 at 16:33:19 Subject: nj.com Has been Hacked Hackers have diabled nj.com as part of an internet "contest" for those who can hack the most websites on this date. ***************** End Of Article ****************** KEYBORD SLEUTH posted Message 779 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2003 at 19:49:11 Subject: Re: nj.com Has been Hacked THE URBAN TIMES NEWS WAS ALSO HACKED. THE HACKERS CHANGED ALL THE CONTENT ON THEIR SITE TO ARTICLES THAT ARE ONLY THE TRUTH! AGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SCARY ! THE PAPER BECAME 1 PAGE ***************** End Of Article ****************** Observer posted Message 780 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2003 at 09:38:57 Subject: VICTORY< WINNERS AND LOSERS In a major turn of events, ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 781 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2003 at 09:46:34 Subject: HCDO LOSES GRIP ON JC REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY-EVIL EMPIRE STUMBLES AGAIN HCDO LOSES GRIP ON JC REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY-EVIL EMPIRE STUMBLES AGAIN ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ugly Duckling News Service--Special to UTN posted Message 782 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2003 at 10:33:43 Subject: "Junior Maldonado, unfortunately will have to take a back seat to this client," Lyndhurst, NJ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan Eason posted Message 783 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2003 at 17:47:05 Subject: CUNNINGHAM SCORES PIVOTAL VICTORY CUNNINGHAM SCORES PIVOTAL VICTORY ANOTHER BLOW TO HCDO, MENENDEZ!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 784 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2003 at 18:18:35 Subject: Online Audio: Jersey City Redevelopment Agency Meeting of the Board See the Link to hear a recording of this pivotal meeting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise Tax Scam posted Message 785 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 09, 2003 at 15:48:22 Subject: Pat Please Record the H.C. Freeholder Meetings Pat - Please record and post the Hudson County Freeholder meetings. And while you are at it why not the Hudson County Improvement Authority. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ricardo Kaulessar , Urban Times News posted Message 786 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 09, 2003 at 18:38:21 Subject: HOUSING COMMISSIONERS SEEN BUT NOT EXACTLY HEARD AND OTHER MATTERS June 17, 2003 ***************** End Of Article ****************** You can call me Will. . . posted Message 787 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 11, 2003 at 17:21:36 Subject: Highlights of the Rakowski Admininstration When the Merry one got tossed in the hoosgow, the Council sent Joe Rakowski where the angels feared to tread. At a meeting of the Port Authority, one of the most powerful and important organizations in the world, Mayor Rakowski stops the proceedings to ask when he's going to get his free tunnel pass. The mayor's driver was directed to take his honor only to restaurants that didn't insult him with a bill. Trying to get something going with a little cutie, Mayor Joe Rakowski nonchlantley remarks, "Guess what, I'm the mayor now!" The incredulous reply is "Mayor of WHAT?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** shoe to drop posted Message 788 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 11, 2003 at 19:37:02 Subject: Former North Bergen official gets 3-year prison term Former North Bergen official gets 3-year prison term The Associated Press 7/11/2003, 5:11 p.m. ET NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — The former North Bergen township administrator was sentenced Friday to three years in prison for accepting cash and free home improvements from a vendor who did business with the Hudson County township. Joseph Auriemma, 55, must also repay $33,792 to the township, the value of the benefits he received, and pay a $7,500 fine. He was sentenced Friday by U.S. District Judge Joseph A. Greenaway Jr. ... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good Bye Nick Sacco posted Message 789 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 12, 2003 at 15:40:11 Subject: North Bergen Investigation Continues Convicted politician gets prison term ! Christie says North Bergen probe continues ! Former North Bergen Administrator Joseph Auriemma, who pleaded guilty last year to accepting cash payments and home improvements from a township vendor, was sentenced today to 36 months in a federal prison. U.S. District Judge Joseph A. Greenaway, Jr. also ordered Auriemma to pay North Bergen Township $33,792 in restitution - the value of the corrupt benefits he received - and a fine of $7,500. "This is a good, stiff sentence for a public official who corrupted and tainted government in North Bergen and Hudson County," said U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie. "This should stand as both a deterrent to others and set an example for those already under the microscope for corrupt activities." "The investigation into corruption in North Bergen and Hudson County is ongoing," Christie said ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 790 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2003 at 13:01:52 Subject: Tonites guest, Mayor Joe Doria. Topics, this past election, the good ferry Bayonne, whats happening in Bayonne! Plus red parking meters i Jersey City, whats with that? all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM Hudson County's Talking toll free to call and have your voice heard! ***************** End Of Article ****************** hojas posted Message 791 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2003 at 17:06:04 Subject: GREAT LEADERSHIP and Stan Eason at his best! 2029. Great leadership in that department... by Morell, 7/14/03 9:20 ET And why even talk about ethical aspects. This is from the JJ today: "A Jersey City deputy police chief accused of driving a NJ Transit bus while on city time has retired with a full pension - just over $90,000 a year - and all departmental charges against him have been dropped. On Wednesday, Jersey City spokesman Stan H. Eason said Perez's retirement would make the departmental charges against him "a moot point." That means Perez is walking away from the force with a full pension and that he and his family will remain eligible for city healthcare benefits, Eason said. " "The allegations against Jersey City Deputy Police Chief Victor Perez came to light two months ago, when a high-ranking police official told The Jersey Journal that Perez was facing departmental charges accusing him of driving the bus during the same hours he was supposed to be working for the city. " http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/index.ssf?/base/news-1/105817742886792.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 792 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2003 at 18:23:37 Subject: A PRIMER ON ORGANIZED CRIME-HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION FOR DUMMIES A PRIMER ON ORGANIZED CRIME-HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION FOR DUMMIES ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 793 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2003 at 18:59:20 Subject: ORGANIZED CRIME KIDNAPS URBAN TIMES NEWS ORGANIZED CRIME KIDNAPS URBAN TIMES NEWS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hardy Boys posted Message 794 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2003 at 20:22:21 Subject: Re: ORGANIZED CRIME KIDNAPS URBAN TIMES NEWS No problem Steve called “Ghost Busters” they are on their way! Could you imagine such a credible, newsworthy publication such as the Urban Times News had an “injustice” done to them? Better yet I’ll call Nancy Drew she will help! ***************** End Of Article ****************** :o) posted Message 795 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2003 at 20:35:04 Subject: Re: A PRIMER ON ORGANIZED CRIME-HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION FOR DUMMIES If you find yourself agreeing with this kind of talk, you should go read "Grapes of Wrath" by John Steinbeck. He puts a scene together where you hear someone talking about the Okies and filth, but by that point your sympathies are squarely with the people being criticized, so you get to hear how heartless the words really sound. It is very effective and is something to think about. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Woolly Bully posted Message 796 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2003 at 08:26:23 Subject: Re: ORGANIZED CRIME KIDNAPS URBAN TIMES NEWS : : No problem Steve called “Ghost Busters” they are on their way! : Could you imagine such a credible, newsworthy publication such as the Urban Times News had an “injustice” done to them? : Better yet I’ll call Nancy Drew she will help! Steve made a joke of a serious situation. Stifling free speech and discrimination are not funny. Neither are you ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fed UP posted Message 797 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2003 at 08:37:37 Subject: Desperate HCDO will do anything Boss Menendez's HCDO gets more desperate each day. Now they are attempting to supress free speech by trying to remove the UTN Newspaper from the people of Hoboken. What is this RUSSIA ? The HCDO's actions are pathetic, heavy handed and SAD. Thank God Boss Menendez's days are numbered. GOD BLESS THE U.S. ATTORNEY !!!!!! : ORGANIZED CRIME KIDNAPS URBAN TIMES NEWS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jailhouse rock posted Message 798 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2003 at 15:44:33 Subject: source the quote words HOME pictures Source the Quote "Jersey City is a political town and we have certain rules and regulations here, and since your company has never done any business with us before, I want to inform you as to what these rules and regulations are." "It's not a bribe, it's a gratuity." "I will opt for creative financing every time." "We know that Jersey City can be America's most livable city." "You can see the whole world and not leave Jersey City... Together we can make Jersey City a slice of heaven." "They called it the Jersey City Renaissance. But [he] knew its Medici’s and its Borgias and its Sforzas from the old days. It was a renaissance of condominiums and kickbacks, ready-mixed concrete and plasterboard walls, glass and aluminum and the cheapest wiring money could buy. None of it would last as long as the pier-pilings that had stood in its place." "I forgot more than he'll ever know." "Jesus was not a wimp. He was a tough guy." "We were friends." "When you stop sin, Father, I'll stop all the problems of Jersey City." "I don't think the people turned their backs on me." "The political leader is a fact of life in America. The system can't function without him." "Nobody hates Bret Schundler." "I regard the fall of the Berlin Wall and election of Bret Schundler in Jersey City as comparable events." "Maybe we can have the facilities to fix somebody's hair up." "We can't afford to listen to these cries of humanity." "Any publicity is good publicity." "To my knowledge, I was born in jersey City, and have lived here all my life." "You don't even know who your father is." "The problem with Jersey City is the spending of the money." "The city has not paid a nickel for the [chromium] fill." "Tomorrow, the work starts." Louie Brunellesches Rudolph Contey Thomas Gangemi Newt Gingrich Robert 'Cash' Janiszewski Gerald McCann Bernard Murphy Liam Neeson Joseph Rakowski Bret Schundler Joseph Soriero Thomas Whelan Jaime Vazquez Answers Jersey City is a political town and we have certain rules and regulations here, and since your company has never done any business with us before, I want to inform you as to what these rules and regulations are. Bernard Murphy, a city purchasing agent who was convicted of conspiracy, bribery and extortion in 1971. It's not a bribe, it's a gratuity. Liam Neeson in Schindler's List, bartering diamonds at Auschwitz. I will opt for creative financing every time. Robert 'Cash' Janiszewski. Creative financing is certainly called for to pay some of those county salaries, Robert. By the way, how do you find the '94 Grand Marquis? Suits you? Glad we could all help. We know that Jersey City can be America's most livable city. You can see the whole world and not leave Jersey City... Together we can make Jersey City a slice of heaven. Bret Schundler. No comment. Apropos Bob's Marquis, we'd like to pass along some info. provided by the mayor's PR dept.: apparently a local auto dealership leases a car to Schundler for $1 a year. See, leasing is better than buying. They called it the Jersey City Renaissance. But [he] knew its Medicis and its Borgias and its Sforzas from the old days. It was a renaissance of condominiums and kickbacks, ready-mixed concrete and plasterboard walls, glass and aluminum and the cheapest wiring money could buy. None of it would last as long as the pier-pilings that had stood in its place. Louie Brunellesches, a character in Nick Tosches's 1988 novel Cut Numbers. Excerpt reprinted with permission from Harmony Books. I forgot more than he'll ever know. Gerald McCann, in a prison interview. Jesus was not a wimp. He was a tough guy. Bret Schundler We were friends. Rudolph Contey, reminiscing at Allen Manzo's trial for aggravated assault for hitting Contey with a tire iron. Manzo was cleared. When you stop sin, Father, I'll stop all the problems of Jersey City. Gerald McCann, in a chance street encounter with a priest. I don't think the people turned their backs on me. Gerald McCann, while residing in Allenwood. The political leader is a fact of life in America. The system can't function without him. Thomas Whelan, in a Wall Street Journal article circa 1966. Nobody hates Bret Schundler. Joseph Rakowski, who must have no pride of authorship of his various letters to the editor. I regard the fall of the Berlin Wall the and election of Bret Schundler in Jersey City as comparable events. Former academic Newt Gingrich, who may have a sense of history, but not of proportion. Maybe we can have the facilities to fix somebody's hair up. Joseph Rakowski, fleshing out his remarks concerning the possibility that the homeless might benefit from aerobics. We'd guess that he'd just had lunch with Newt Gingrich, but the timing is wrong. We can't afford to listen to these cries of humanity. Thomas Whelan, whist trimming the city payroll. Any publicity is good publicity. Another face of Gerald McCann: the ad exec. To my knowledge, I was born in jersey City, and have live here all my life. Thomas Gangemi. The mayor scheduled a stop to Genoa, Italy in 1963 to accompany a man named Christopher Columbus back to Jersey City to take part in Columbus Day festivities. As a formality, the type of which we all go through, Gangemi was asked to prove his citizenship, couldn't, and naturally had to resign his post. (He was found to be a lawful citizen of Calabria, Italy. He later became a naturalized US citizen.) Kind of a shame, as he was the city's pioneer mayor elected under the Faulkner Act, which changed the form of government from mayor-commissioner to mayor-council. Thus did he become the city's first mayor directly elected by the people and de-elected by INS. You don't even know who your father is. Gerald McCann. Despite the elegant positioning, we do not know the true context for this remark. We're told he also called people ugly. The problem with Jersey City is the spending of the money. Gerald McCann The city has not paid a nickel for the [chromium] fill. Joseph Soriero, onetime city commissioner, referring to chromium landfill, proving again that the best things in life aren't always free. Tomorrow, the work starts. Jaime Vazquez's slogan while running for council in 1993. He later changed it to 'Mayor Schundler Team' to avoid even the appearance of action verbs. Another candidate for council, Francis O. Thompson, side-stepped the question of grammar altogether by choosing 'Thompson Better Quality.' Win she didn't. Most quotes courtesy The Jersey Journal and the Jersey City Reporter, so we cannot positively vouch for their accuracy. But thanks for the legwork, guys. Light Reading ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 799 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2003 at 16:13:15 Subject: Re: source the quote : words : HOME : pictures : : Source the Quote : "Jersey City is a political town and we have certain rules and regulations here, and since your company has never done any business with us before, I want to inform you as to what these rules and regulations are." : "It's not a bribe, it's a gratuity." : "I will opt for creative financing every time." : "We know that Jersey City can be America's most livable city." "You can see the whole world and not leave Jersey City... Together we can make Jersey City a slice of heaven." : "They called it the Jersey City Renaissance. But [he] knew its Medici’s and its Borgias and its Sforzas from the old days. It was a renaissance of condominiums and kickbacks, ready-mixed concrete and plasterboard walls, glass and aluminum and the cheapest wiring money could buy. None of it would last as long as the pier-pilings that had stood in its place." : "I forgot more than he'll ever know." : "Jesus was not a wimp. He was a tough guy." : "We were friends." : "When you stop sin, Father, I'll stop all the problems of Jersey City." : "I don't think the people turned their backs on me." : "The political leader is a fact of life in America. The system can't function without him." : "Nobody hates Bret Schundler." : "I regard the fall of the Berlin Wall and election of Bret Schundler in Jersey City as comparable events." : "Maybe we can have the facilities to fix somebody's hair up." : "We can't afford to listen to these cries of humanity." : "Any publicity is good publicity." : "To my knowledge, I was born in jersey City, and have lived here all my life." : "You don't even know who your father is." : "The problem with Jersey City is the spending of the money." : "The city has not paid a nickel for the [chromium] fill." : "Tomorrow, the work starts." Louie Brunellesches : Rudolph Contey : Thomas Gangemi : Newt Gingrich : Robert 'Cash' Janiszewski : Gerald McCann : Bernard Murphy : Liam Neeson : Joseph Rakowski : Bret Schundler : Joseph Soriero : Thomas Whelan : Jaime Vazquez : : Answers : Jersey City is a political town and we have certain rules and regulations here, and since your company has never done any business with us before, I want to inform you as to what these rules and regulations are. : Bernard Murphy, a city purchasing agent who was convicted of conspiracy, bribery and extortion in 1971. : It's not a bribe, it's a gratuity. : Liam Neeson in Schindler's List, bartering diamonds at Auschwitz. : I will opt for creative financing every time. : Robert 'Cash' Janiszewski. Creative financing is certainly called for to pay some of those county salaries, Robert. By the way, how do you find the '94 Grand Marquis? Suits you? Glad we could all help. : We know that Jersey City can be America's most livable city. : You can see the whole world and not leave Jersey City... : Together we can make Jersey City a slice of heaven. : Bret Schundler. No comment. Apropos Bob's Marquis, we'd like to pass along some info. provided by the mayor's PR dept.: apparently a local auto dealership leases a car to Schundler for $1 a year. See, leasing is better than buying. : They called it the Jersey City Renaissance. But [he] knew its Medicis and its Borgias and its Sforzas from the old days. It was a renaissance of condominiums and kickbacks, ready-mixed concrete and plasterboard walls, glass and aluminum and the cheapest wiring money could buy. None of it would last as long as the pier-pilings that had stood in its place. : Louie Brunellesches, a character in Nick Tosches's 1988 novel Cut Numbers. Excerpt reprinted with permission from Harmony Books. : I forgot more than he'll ever know. : Gerald McCann, in a prison interview. : Jesus was not a wimp. He was a tough guy. : Bret Schundler : We were friends. : Rudolph Contey, reminiscing at Allen Manzo's trial for aggravated assault for hitting Contey with a tire iron. Manzo was cleared. : When you stop sin, Father, I'll stop all the problems of Jersey City. : Gerald McCann, in a chance street encounter with a priest. : I don't think the people turned their backs on me. : Gerald McCann, while residing in Allenwood. : The political leader is a fact of life in America. The system can't function without him. : Thomas Whelan, in a Wall Street Journal article circa 1966. : Nobody hates Bret Schundler. : Joseph Rakowski, who must have no pride of authorship of his various letters to the editor. : I regard the fall of the Berlin Wall the and election of Bret Schundler in Jersey City as comparable events. : Former academic Newt Gingrich, who may have a sense of history, but not of proportion. : Maybe we can have the facilities to fix somebody's hair up. : Joseph Rakowski, fleshing out his remarks concerning the possibility that the homeless might benefit from aerobics. We'd guess that he'd just had lunch with Newt Gingrich, but the timing is wrong. : We can't afford to listen to these cries of humanity. : Thomas Whelan, whist trimming the city payroll. : Any publicity is good publicity. : Another face of Gerald McCann: the ad exec. : To my knowledge, I was born in jersey City, and have live here all my life. : Thomas Gangemi. The mayor scheduled a stop to Genoa, Italy in 1963 to accompany a man named Christopher Columbus back to Jersey City to take part in Columbus Day festivities. As a formality, the type of which we all go through, Gangemi was asked to prove his citizenship, couldn't, and naturally had to resign his post. (He was found to be a lawful citizen of Calabria, Italy. He later became a naturalized US citizen.) Kind of a shame, as he was the city's pioneer mayor elected under the Faulkner Act, which changed the form of government from mayor-commissioner to mayor-council. Thus did he become the city's first mayor directly elected by the people and de-elected by INS. : You don't even know who your father is. : Gerald McCann. Despite the elegant positioning, we do not know the true context for this remark. We're told he also called people ugly. : The problem with Jersey City is the spending of the money. : Gerald McCann : The city has not paid a nickel for the [chromium] fill. : Joseph Soriero, onetime city commissioner, referring to chromium landfill, proving again that the best things in life aren't always free. : Tomorrow, the work starts. : Jaime Vazquez's slogan while running for council in 1993. He later changed it to 'Mayor Schundler Team' to avoid even the appearance of action verbs. Another candidate for council, Francis O. Thompson, side-stepped the question of grammar altogether by choosing 'Thompson Better Quality.' Win she didn't. : : Most quotes courtesy The Jersey Journal and the Jersey City Reporter, : so we cannot positively vouch for their accuracy. But thanks for the legwork, guys. : : : : Light Reading This is priceless. Great Stuff. I need to talk to you. Please email contact info. S Glazer ***************** End Of Article ****************** jailhouserock posted Message 800 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2003 at 17:36:53 Subject: Re: source the quote So you like my post...I am looking to write for a paper but, the all think I am to free-thinking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pudef posted Message 801 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2003 at 20:24:51 Subject: Re: Desperate UTN will do anything : : ORGANIZED CRIME = URBAN TIMES NEWS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bully lamb posted Message 802 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2003 at 20:27:22 Subject: Re: ORGANIZED CRIME takes over URBAN TIMES NEWS Yes I am! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Woolly Bully posted Message 803 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2003 at 22:17:49 Subject: Re: ORGANIZED CRIME takes over URBAN TIMES NEWS : Yes I am! You am what? ***************** End Of Article ****************** wooly wooly posted Message 804 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2003 at 22:35:23 Subject: Re: ORGANIZED CRIME takes over URBAN TIMES NEWS funny! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 805 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2003 at 22:53:57 Subject: Booth Cuts A Deal BOOTH CUTS A DEAL Steven Glazer email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com Jersey City-Sources close to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham said that Corporation Council Alex Booth has agreed to resign at the end of this month. Booth and Cunningham have agreed on basic terms though not disclosed, freeing Booth to return to private practice where his earning power is far greater than as City Attorney. Booth’s brother Jay was named in testimony by Bob Janiszewski in testimony during the corruption trial of Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon as one of the co-conspirators of Organized Crime, The Hudson County Democratic Organization. Alex Booth’s resignation is not necessarily related to the incrimination of brother Jay. Alex Booth was a key player in the opposition to the Cunningham administration by the Keystone Council, dominated by Bob Menendez, the head of Organized Crime. Booth’s agreement to resign can only be seen as a retracement of the influence of the HCDO after the recent primary election dominated by Cunningham and his ticket. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 806 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 16, 2003 at 07:32:57 Subject: Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 Source: The Bond Buyer By Martin Z. Braun Former Hudson County, N.J., Executive Robert Janiszewski testified last week that Jay Booth, a municipal bond banker well-known in county Democratic politics, handed him $6,000 in cash kickbacks after being selected to manage two bond deals for the county during the 1990s. Janiszewski also said Booth, currently a banker at Jersey City-based Red-Horse Securities LLC, gave him $3,000 on behalf of a vendor who had received an engineering contract. Janiszewski, the once-powerful Democratic Party powerbroker who struck a deal with prosecutors, gave the testimony last Friday at the corruption trial of Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon. She is facing charges of mail fraud and aiding extortion for allegedly funneling $10,000 in cash payments to Janiszewski from a vendor who received more than $2 million in county contracts. Hank Scheinkopf, a spokesman for Booth, called that allegation spurious. "Mr. Booth would never engage in such a practice, number one. Number two, Mr. Janiszewski and Booth were not political allies" and had a long-standing history of animosity, Scheinkopf said. "The firms that Mr. Booth was involved with did their business by complying with the law and with all appropriate regulations on the merits." Booth's conduct as a municipal securities broker has come under scrutiny before. Between 1988 and 1995, Booth was fined $60,000 by the National Association of Securities Dealers and censured for securities violations. In 1993, he was at the center of a state inquiry into political influence and the selection of underwriters in New Jersey. Although Scheinkopf said Booth and Janiszewski were political enemies for 15 years, Booth ran two small regional bond-underwriting firms in the late 1980s and early 1990s that did frequent business with the county. From 1988 through 1990, Jersey Capital Markets, which Booth operated, served as senior manager on three deals for the county and on the Hudson County Improvement Authority bond sale representing $40.1 million. The firm also served as co- manager on three deals for the same issuers valued at $283 million. After regulators forced him to close Jersey Capital Markets in 1992, Booth's new firm, Tri-State Capital Markets, served as senior manager on a $12.5 million Hudson County Improvement Authority deal and co-manager on $309 million in bond sales by the county and its improvement authority. While on the witness stand, Janiszewski said that in the early 1990s, Booth gave him an envelope containing $3,000 after Jersey Capital Markets was selected to serve as co-manager on a bond issue to finance the construction of the county's new jail. Janiszewski also testified that around 1999, Booth visited him in his office and handed over an envelope containing $3,000. The kickback came after Hudson County selected M.H. Meyerson & Co. -- the broker-dealer then employing Booth -- to serve as lead underwriter on a county deal. Scheinkopf said that Janiszewski, who controlled the board of the improvement authority, selected Booth's firm for authority bond issues despite their political animosity. "It was done on the merits," he said. On county deals, the freeholders -- the elected board of commissioners -- not Janiszewski, selected the underwriters, Scheinkopf said. "You don't have to go lobby the county executive to get these things done, necessarily," he said. Like Janiszewski, the county freeholders were all Democrats. Martin H. Meyerson, the recently retired chief executive officer of M.H. Meyerson & Co., refused to comment on Janiszewski's testimony. As the first witness in the Davila-Colon corruption trial, Janiszewski testified he received so many cash-filled envelopes from vendors and consultants that he had trouble hiding them all. The trial is the first to result from Janiszewski's undercover work for the FBI, who videotaped him accepting a cash bribe in an Atlantic City hotel in 2000. Janiszewski agreed to cooperate with authorities and secretly recorded conversations with public officials and contractors. He pleaded guilty to bribery charges last fall. Booth has not been subpoenaed by the U.S. attorney's office in the Davila-Colon case, Scheinkopf said. He also said securities regulators have not contacted Booth. Martha Mahan Haines, chief of the Securities and Exchange Commission's Office of Municipal Securities, was not in her office yesterday and could not return a call seeking comment. John Heine, an SEC spokesman, declined to comment. Earlier this year, New Jersey selected Red-Horse Securities to serve as co-manager on a $333 million issue by the state's Transportation Trust Fund Authority. The majority Native-American owned firmestablished in 2002, had never before underwritten a state bond deal. The brief resume of Booth provided by Red-Horse to the state treasurer's office called him "a recognized innovator and producer in the field of public finance in New York and New Jersey for the past 25 years." While the resume reported that Booth holds Series 7, 24, and 53 licenses, it did not report that he had been the subject of four regulatory actions by the NASD and one customer complaint. In 1988, the NASD fined and censured Booth and Jersey Capital Markets $30,000 for a series of violations, including numerous registration violations and failing to amend underwriting agreements disclosing that the firm had previously paid $20,000 to another broker. In 1992, the NASD fined Booth $25,000 and suspended him as a general securities representative for 180 days for allowing a disqualified broker to act as a registered representative, NASD records show. Later that year, the NASD censured Booth, fined him $2,500, and barred the defunct Jersey Capital Markets from reapplying for NASD membership. A year later, the president of the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority told a legislative committee investigating bond deals during the administration of former Gov. Jim Florio that Booth's firm at the time, Tri-State Capital Markets, had been included in an exposition authority deal despite never having responded to a request for proposal. In testimony to a legislative committee, authority president Robert E. Mulcahy said then-governor's counsel M. Robert DeCotiis had chosen Tri-State without consulting the authority. According to Scheinkopf, DeCotiis' decision was not unusual. "All underwriters were appointed by the governor, as I'm told they are today," he said, adding that Booth earned a "colossal" $3,000 from the bond issue. : BOOTH CUTS A DEAL : Steven Glazer email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com : Jersey City-Sources close to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham said that Corporation Council Alex Booth has agreed to resign at the end of this month. Booth and Cunningham have agreed on basic terms though not disclosed, freeing Booth to return to private practice where his earning power is far greater than as City Attorney. : Booth’s brother Jay was named in testimony by Bob Janiszewski in testimony during the corruption trial of Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon as one of the co-conspirators of Organized Crime, The Hudson County Democratic Organization. Alex Booth’s resignation is not necessarily related to the incrimination of brother Jay. Alex Booth was a key player in the opposition to the Cunningham administration by the Keystone Council, dominated by Bob Menendez, the head of Organized Crime. : Booth’s agreement to resign can only be seen as a retracement of the influence of the HCDO after the recent primary election dominated by Cunningham and his ticket. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 807 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 16, 2003 at 10:32:01 Subject: Jersey City Medical Center-What You Don’t Know Can Kill You The board of the Medical Center includes Zulima Farber, State Senator Bernard Kenny and Jersey City Councilman Mariano Vega. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 808 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 16, 2003 at 18:11:32 Subject: McCann for Freeholder? Up in the Jersey City Heights, I've seen a number of McCann for Freeholder 2003 signs on the utility poles. Quite a few have been torn down -- particularly those in the vicinity of 595 Newark Avenue. . . Does Gerry have Glenn's blessing? If not, then who's Glenn going to back? What about the HCDO? ***************** End Of Article ****************** John Q Public posted Message 809 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 16, 2003 at 19:27:15 Subject: It's Freeholder McCann McCann will win the Freeholder Seat. NO ONE can debate better than Gerry. If there is a Debate - McCann will DESTROY his opposition. Don't hand me the McCann's a Convict nonsense ...That Freeholder District overwhelmingly elected Nidia AFTER she got indicted. The electorate could care less about McCann's jail stint. : Up in the Jersey City Heights, I've seen a number of McCann for Freeholder 2003 signs on the utility poles. : Quite a few have been torn down -- particularly those in the vicinity of 595 Newark Avenue. . . : Does Gerry have Glenn's blessing? If not, then who's Glenn going to back? What about the HCDO? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lets vote in the ex-con!...not! posted Message 810 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 16, 2003 at 20:50:02 Subject: Re: It's Freeloader McCan't NO WAY ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 811 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 17, 2003 at 08:34:00 Subject: Re: Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies Bravo, Manolo. Good Lookin' out. Who are you? would you please drop me a line? sglazer@urbantimesnews.com : Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies : Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 : Source: The Bond Buyer : By Martin Z. Braun : Former Hudson County, N.J., Executive Robert Janiszewski testified last week that Jay Booth, a municipal bond banker well-known in county Democratic politics, handed him $6,000 in cash kickbacks after being selected to manage two bond deals for the county during the 1990s. : Janiszewski also said Booth, currently a banker at Jersey City-based Red-Horse Securities LLC, gave him $3,000 on behalf of a vendor who had received an engineering contract. : Janiszewski, the once-powerful Democratic Party powerbroker who struck a deal with prosecutors, gave the testimony last Friday at the corruption trial of Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon. She is facing charges of mail fraud and aiding extortion for allegedly funneling $10,000 in cash payments to Janiszewski from a vendor who received more than $2 million in county contracts. : Hank Scheinkopf, a spokesman for Booth, called that allegation spurious. : "Mr. Booth would never engage in such a practice, number one. Number two, Mr. Janiszewski and Booth were not political allies" and had a long-standing history of animosity, Scheinkopf said. : "The firms that Mr. Booth was involved with did their business by complying with the law and with all appropriate regulations on the merits." : Booth's conduct as a municipal securities broker has come under scrutiny before. : Between 1988 and 1995, Booth was fined $60,000 by the National Association of Securities Dealers and censured for securities violations. In 1993, he was at the center of a state inquiry into political influence and the selection of underwriters in New Jersey. : Although Scheinkopf said Booth and Janiszewski were political enemies for 15 years, Booth ran two small regional bond-underwriting firms in the late 1980s and early 1990s that did frequent business with the county. : From 1988 through 1990, Jersey Capital Markets, which Booth operated, served as senior manager on three deals for the county and on the Hudson County Improvement Authority bond sale representing $40.1 million. The firm also served as co- manager on three deals for the same issuers valued at $283 million. : After regulators forced him to close Jersey Capital Markets in 1992, Booth's new firm, Tri-State Capital Markets, served as senior manager on a $12.5 million Hudson County Improvement Authority deal and co-manager on $309 million in bond sales by the county and its improvement authority. : While on the witness stand, Janiszewski said that in the early 1990s, Booth gave him an envelope containing $3,000 after Jersey Capital Markets was selected to serve as co-manager on a bond issue to finance the construction of the county's new jail. : Janiszewski also testified that around 1999, Booth visited him in his office and handed over an envelope containing $3,000. The kickback came after Hudson County selected M.H. Meyerson & Co. -- the broker-dealer then employing Booth -- to serve as lead underwriter on a county deal. : Scheinkopf said that Janiszewski, who controlled the board of the improvement authority, selected Booth's firm for authority bond issues despite their political animosity. : "It was done on the merits," he said. : On county deals, the freeholders -- the elected board of commissioners -- not Janiszewski, selected the underwriters, Scheinkopf said. : "You don't have to go lobby the county executive to get these things done, necessarily," he said. Like Janiszewski, the county freeholders were all Democrats. : Martin H. Meyerson, the recently retired chief executive officer of M.H. Meyerson & Co., refused to comment on Janiszewski's testimony. : As the first witness in the Davila-Colon corruption trial, Janiszewski testified he received so many cash-filled envelopes from vendors and consultants that he had trouble hiding them all. The trial is the first to result from Janiszewski's undercover work for the FBI, who videotaped him accepting a cash bribe in an Atlantic City hotel in 2000. Janiszewski agreed to cooperate with authorities and secretly recorded conversations with public officials and contractors. He pleaded guilty to bribery charges last fall. : Booth has not been subpoenaed by the U.S. attorney's office in the Davila-Colon case, Scheinkopf said. He also said securities regulators have not contacted Booth. : Martha Mahan Haines, chief of the Securities and Exchange Commission's Office of Municipal Securities, was not in her office yesterday and could not return a call seeking comment. John Heine, an SEC spokesman, declined to comment. : Earlier this year, New Jersey selected Red-Horse Securities to serve as co-manager on a $333 million issue by the state's Transportation Trust Fund Authority. The majority Native-American owned firmestablished in 2002, had never before underwritten a state bond deal. : The brief resume of Booth provided by Red-Horse to the state treasurer's office called him "a recognized innovator and producer in the field of public finance in New York and New Jersey for the past 25 years." : While the resume reported that Booth holds Series 7, 24, and 53 licenses, it did not report that he had been the subject of four regulatory actions by the NASD and one customer complaint. : In 1988, the NASD fined and censured Booth and Jersey Capital Markets $30,000 for a series of violations, including numerous registration violations and failing to amend underwriting agreements disclosing that the firm had previously paid $20,000 to another broker. : In 1992, the NASD fined Booth $25,000 and suspended him as a general securities representative for 180 days for allowing a disqualified broker to act as a registered representative, NASD records show. Later that year, the NASD censured Booth, fined him $2,500, and barred the defunct Jersey Capital Markets from reapplying for NASD membership. : A year later, the president of the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority told a legislative committee investigating bond deals during the administration of former Gov. Jim Florio that Booth's firm at the time, Tri-State Capital Markets, had been included in an exposition authority deal despite never having responded to a request for proposal. : In testimony to a legislative committee, authority president Robert E. Mulcahy said then-governor's counsel M. Robert DeCotiis had chosen Tri-State without consulting the authority. : According to Scheinkopf, DeCotiis' decision was not unusual. : "All underwriters were appointed by the governor, as I'm told they are today," he said, adding that Booth earned a "colossal" $3,000 from the bond issue. : : : BOOTH CUTS A DEAL : : Steven Glazer email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com : : Jersey City-Sources close to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham said that Corporation Council Alex Booth has agreed to resign at the end of this month. Booth and Cunningham have agreed on basic terms though not disclosed, freeing Booth to return to private practice where his earning power is far greater than as City Attorney. : : Booth’s brother Jay was named in testimony by Bob Janiszewski in testimony during the corruption trial of Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon as one of the co-conspirators of Organized Crime, The Hudson County Democratic Organization. Alex Booth’s resignation is not necessarily related to the incrimination of brother Jay. Alex Booth was a key player in the opposition to the Cunningham administration by the Keystone Council, dominated by Bob Menendez, the head of Organized Crime. : : Booth’s agreement to resign can only be seen as a retracement of the influence of the HCDO after the recent primary election dominated by Cunningham and his ticket. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Da Grand Jury posted Message 812 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 17, 2003 at 21:39:39 Subject: Maurice - Next to be Indicted ? Freeholder Maurice Fitzgibbons is leading the poll of who is the next official to be indicted by the Feds. Cast your vote now ! www.edmecka.com/indictmentpoll.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 813 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2003 at 13:22:21 Subject: Forked Tongue? Re: Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies New Jersey Valerie Red-Horse, Native Nations Securities The first Native American to control a securities firm, Red-Horse answered phones for junk-bond king Michael Milken in the 1980s. She has also been an actress and is best known for serving as the model for Mattel's Pocahontas doll. In 2001, Native Nations bought Freeman Securities in Jersey City, N.J., setting it on a path to become the epicenter of the stock loan collapse that bankrupted Stockwalk. : Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies : Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 : Source: The Bond Buyer : By Martin Z. Braun : Former Hudson County, N.J., Executive Robert Janiszewski testified last week that Jay Booth, a municipal bond banker well-known in county Democratic politics, handed him $6,000 in cash kickbacks after being selected to manage two bond deals for the county during the 1990s. : Janiszewski also said Booth, currently a banker at Jersey City-based Red-Horse Securities LLC, gave him $3,000 on behalf of a vendor who had received an engineering contract. : Janiszewski, the once-powerful Democratic Party powerbroker who struck a deal with prosecutors, gave the testimony last Friday at the corruption trial of Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon. She is facing charges of mail fraud and aiding extortion for allegedly funneling $10,000 in cash payments to Janiszewski from a vendor who received more than $2 million in county contracts. : Hank Scheinkopf, a spokesman for Booth, called that allegation spurious. : "Mr. Booth would never engage in such a practice, number one. Number two, Mr. Janiszewski and Booth were not political allies" and had a long-standing history of animosity, Scheinkopf said. : "The firms that Mr. Booth was involved with did their business by complying with the law and with all appropriate regulations on the merits." : Booth's conduct as a municipal securities broker has come under scrutiny before. : Between 1988 and 1995, Booth was fined $60,000 by the National Association of Securities Dealers and censured for securities violations. In 1993, he was at the center of a state inquiry into political influence and the selection of underwriters in New Jersey. : Although Scheinkopf said Booth and Janiszewski were political enemies for 15 years, Booth ran two small regional bond-underwriting firms in the late 1980s and early 1990s that did frequent business with the county. : From 1988 through 1990, Jersey Capital Markets, which Booth operated, served as senior manager on three deals for the county and on the Hudson County Improvement Authority bond sale representing $40.1 million. The firm also served as co- manager on three deals for the same issuers valued at $283 million. : After regulators forced him to close Jersey Capital Markets in 1992, Booth's new firm, Tri-State Capital Markets, served as senior manager on a $12.5 million Hudson County Improvement Authority deal and co-manager on $309 million in bond sales by the county and its improvement authority. : While on the witness stand, Janiszewski said that in the early 1990s, Booth gave him an envelope containing $3,000 after Jersey Capital Markets was selected to serve as co-manager on a bond issue to finance the construction of the county's new jail. : Janiszewski also testified that around 1999, Booth visited him in his office and handed over an envelope containing $3,000. The kickback came after Hudson County selected M.H. Meyerson & Co. -- the broker-dealer then employing Booth -- to serve as lead underwriter on a county deal. : Scheinkopf said that Janiszewski, who controlled the board of the improvement authority, selected Booth's firm for authority bond issues despite their political animosity. : "It was done on the merits," he said. : On county deals, the freeholders -- the elected board of commissioners -- not Janiszewski, selected the underwriters, Scheinkopf said. : "You don't have to go lobby the county executive to get these things done, necessarily," he said. Like Janiszewski, the county freeholders were all Democrats. : Martin H. Meyerson, the recently retired chief executive officer of M.H. Meyerson & Co., refused to comment on Janiszewski's testimony. : As the first witness in the Davila-Colon corruption trial, Janiszewski testified he received so many cash-filled envelopes from vendors and consultants that he had trouble hiding them all. The trial is the first to result from Janiszewski's undercover work for the FBI, who videotaped him accepting a cash bribe in an Atlantic City hotel in 2000. Janiszewski agreed to cooperate with authorities and secretly recorded conversations with public officials and contractors. He pleaded guilty to bribery charges last fall. : Booth has not been subpoenaed by the U.S. attorney's office in the Davila-Colon case, Scheinkopf said. He also said securities regulators have not contacted Booth. : Martha Mahan Haines, chief of the Securities and Exchange Commission's Office of Municipal Securities, was not in her office yesterday and could not return a call seeking comment. John Heine, an SEC spokesman, declined to comment. : Earlier this year, New Jersey selected Red-Horse Securities to serve as co-manager on a $333 million issue by the state's Transportation Trust Fund Authority. The majority Native-American owned firmestablished in 2002, had never before underwritten a state bond deal. : The brief resume of Booth provided by Red-Horse to the state treasurer's office called him "a recognized innovator and producer in the field of public finance in New York and New Jersey for the past 25 years." : While the resume reported that Booth holds Series 7, 24, and 53 licenses, it did not report that he had been the subject of four regulatory actions by the NASD and one customer complaint. : In 1988, the NASD fined and censured Booth and Jersey Capital Markets $30,000 for a series of violations, including numerous registration violations and failing to amend underwriting agreements disclosing that the firm had previously paid $20,000 to another broker. : In 1992, the NASD fined Booth $25,000 and suspended him as a general securities representative for 180 days for allowing a disqualified broker to act as a registered representative, NASD records show. Later that year, the NASD censured Booth, fined him $2,500, and barred the defunct Jersey Capital Markets from reapplying for NASD membership. : A year later, the president of the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority told a legislative committee investigating bond deals during the administration of former Gov. Jim Florio that Booth's firm at the time, Tri-State Capital Markets, had been included in an exposition authority deal despite never having responded to a request for proposal. : In testimony to a legislative committee, authority president Robert E. Mulcahy said then-governor's counsel M. Robert DeCotiis had chosen Tri-State without consulting the authority. : According to Scheinkopf, DeCotiis' decision was not unusual. : "All underwriters were appointed by the governor, as I'm told they are today," he said, adding that Booth earned a "colossal" $3,000 from the bond issue. : : : BOOTH CUTS A DEAL : : Steven Glazer email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com : : Jersey City-Sources close to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham said that Corporation Council Alex Booth has agreed to resign at the end of this month. Booth and Cunningham have agreed on basic terms though not disclosed, freeing Booth to return to private practice where his earning power is far greater than as City Attorney. : : Booth’s brother Jay was named in testimony by Bob Janiszewski in testimony during the corruption trial of Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon as one of the co-conspirators of Organized Crime, The Hudson County Democratic Organization. Alex Booth’s resignation is not necessarily related to the incrimination of brother Jay. Alex Booth was a key player in the opposition to the Cunningham administration by the Keystone Council, dominated by Bob Menendez, the head of Organized Crime. : : Booth’s agreement to resign can only be seen as a retracement of the influence of the HCDO after the recent primary election dominated by Cunningham and his ticket. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 814 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2003 at 16:50:54 Subject: LIPSKI FOR SALE Signs Particularly around the DMZ (known to the innocent as FIVE CORNERS), the utility poles are getting plastered with an eye-catching sign. The scan above gives the idea, but you really need to be present at a flock of a dozen or so at a single corner in order to have the complete experience. Might one assume this to be a grass roots effort? Certainly, if Councilman Lipski is not observing the same set of rigorous principles as the other elected officials of Hudson County, I'd expect the anger of the citizenry would be frightful. As luck would have it (strictly a coincidence, I'm sure), the Lipski outdoor wallpaper is covering up the McCann For Freeholder 2003 broadsides. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Always room for one more... posted Message 815 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2003 at 17:05:45 Subject: An honest man in New Jersey? PatersonNot in politics, it seems ***************** End Of Article ****************** Penny for your thoughts posted Message 816 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2003 at 20:07:43 Subject: Re: LIPSKI FOR SALE Signs I give you a penny, and it's my final offer! ***************** End Of Article ****************** coo coo ca choo posted Message 817 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2003 at 21:12:54 Subject: Re: McCann for Freeholder? I here he's running on his record ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban crap posted Message 818 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2003 at 21:14:52 Subject: Re: ORGANIZED CRIME KIDNAPS URBAN TIMES NEWS who wants that rag? wont even use that as insulation ***************** End Of Article ****************** flipski posted Message 819 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2003 at 21:17:18 Subject: Re: LIPSKI FOR SALE Signs I saw one at his parking spot, priceless ***************** End Of Article ****************** INMATE # posted Message 820 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2003 at 21:18:11 Subject: Re: McCann for Freeholder? Yes, he is running on his record …his criminal record that is! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 821 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2003 at 05:50:06 Subject: Re: Forked Tongue? Native Nations/Redwood MANOLO-WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS? ARE YOU NASD? PLEASE CONTACT ME. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU sglazer@urbantimesnews.com New Jersey : Valerie Red-Horse, Native Nations Securities : The first Native American to control a securities firm, Red-Horse answered phones for junk-bond king Michael Milken in the 1980s. She has also been an actress and is best known for serving as the model for Mattel's Pocahontas doll. In 2001, Native Nations bought Freeman Securities in Jersey City, N.J., setting it on a path to become the epicenter of the stock loan collapse that bankrupted Stockwalk. Manolo--Where are you getting this? Please email me. I want to ask you a couple of things. You seem to know a lot. SLG : : : Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies : : Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 : : Source: The Bond Buyer : : By Martin Z. Braun : : Former Hudson County, N.J., Executive Robert Janiszewski testified last week that Jay Booth, a municipal bond banker well-known in county Democratic politics, handed him $6,000 in cash kickbacks after being selected to manage two bond deals for the county during the 1990s. : : Janiszewski also said Booth, currently a banker at Jersey City-based Red-Horse Securities LLC, gave him $3,000 on behalf of a vendor who had received an engineering contract. : : Janiszewski, the once-powerful Democratic Party powerbroker who struck a deal with prosecutors, gave the testimony last Friday at the corruption trial of Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon. She is facing charges of mail fraud and aiding extortion for allegedly funneling $10,000 in cash payments to Janiszewski from a vendor who received more than $2 million in county contracts. : : Hank Scheinkopf, a spokesman for Booth, called that allegation spurious. : : "Mr. Booth would never engage in such a practice, number one. Number two, Mr. Janiszewski and Booth were not political allies" and had a long-standing history of animosity, Scheinkopf said. : : "The firms that Mr. Booth was involved with did their business by complying with the law and with all appropriate regulations on the merits." : : Booth's conduct as a municipal securities broker has come under scrutiny before. : : Between 1988 and 1995, Booth was fined $60,000 by the National Association of Securities Dealers and censured for securities violations. In 1993, he was at the center of a state inquiry into political influence and the selection of underwriters in New Jersey. : : Although Scheinkopf said Booth and Janiszewski were political enemies for 15 years, Booth ran two small regional bond-underwriting firms in the late 1980s and early 1990s that did frequent business with the county. : : From 1988 through 1990, Jersey Capital Markets, which Booth operated, served as senior manager on three deals for the county and on the Hudson County Improvement Authority bond sale representing $40.1 million. The firm also served as co- manager on three deals for the same issuers valued at $283 million. : : After regulators forced him to close Jersey Capital Markets in 1992, Booth's new firm, Tri-State Capital Markets, served as senior manager on a $12.5 million Hudson County Improvement Authority deal and co-manager on $309 million in bond sales by the county and its improvement authority. : : While on the witness stand, Janiszewski said that in the early 1990s, Booth gave him an envelope containing $3,000 after Jersey Capital Markets was selected to serve as co-manager on a bond issue to finance the construction of the county's new jail. : : Janiszewski also testified that around 1999, Booth visited him in his office and handed over an envelope containing $3,000. The kickback came after Hudson County selected M.H. Meyerson & Co. -- the broker-dealer then employing Booth -- to serve as lead underwriter on a county deal. : : Scheinkopf said that Janiszewski, who controlled the board of the improvement authority, selected Booth's firm for authority bond issues despite their political animosity. : : "It was done on the merits," he said. : : On county deals, the freeholders -- the elected board of commissioners -- not Janiszewski, selected the underwriters, Scheinkopf said. : : "You don't have to go lobby the county executive to get these things done, necessarily," he said. Like Janiszewski, the county freeholders were all Democrats. : : Martin H. Meyerson, the recently retired chief executive officer of M.H. Meyerson & Co., refused to comment on Janiszewski's testimony. : : As the first witness in the Davila-Colon corruption trial, Janiszewski testified he received so many cash-filled envelopes from vendors and consultants that he had trouble hiding them all. The trial is the first to result from Janiszewski's undercover work for the FBI, who videotaped him accepting a cash bribe in an Atlantic City hotel in 2000. Janiszewski agreed to cooperate with authorities and secretly recorded conversations with public officials and contractors. He pleaded guilty to bribery charges last fall. : : Booth has not been subpoenaed by the U.S. attorney's office in the Davila-Colon case, Scheinkopf said. He also said securities regulators have not contacted Booth. : : Martha Mahan Haines, chief of the Securities and Exchange Commission's Office of Municipal Securities, was not in her office yesterday and could not return a call seeking comment. John Heine, an SEC spokesman, declined to comment. : : Earlier this year, New Jersey selected Red-Horse Securities to serve as co-manager on a $333 million issue by the state's Transportation Trust Fund Authority. The majority Native-American owned firmestablished in 2002, had never before underwritten a state bond deal. : : The brief resume of Booth provided by Red-Horse to the state treasurer's office called him "a recognized innovator and producer in the field of public finance in New York and New Jersey for the past 25 years." : : While the resume reported that Booth holds Series 7, 24, and 53 licenses, it did not report that he had been the subject of four regulatory actions by the NASD and one customer complaint. : : In 1988, the NASD fined and censured Booth and Jersey Capital Markets $30,000 for a series of violations, including numerous registration violations and failing to amend underwriting agreements disclosing that the firm had previously paid $20,000 to another broker. : : In 1992, the NASD fined Booth $25,000 and suspended him as a general securities representative for 180 days for allowing a disqualified broker to act as a registered representative, NASD records show. Later that year, the NASD censured Booth, fined him $2,500, and barred the defunct Jersey Capital Markets from reapplying for NASD membership. : : A year later, the president of the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority told a legislative committee investigating bond deals during the administration of former Gov. Jim Florio that Booth's firm at the time, Tri-State Capital Markets, had been included in an exposition authority deal despite never having responded to a request for proposal. : : In testimony to a legislative committee, authority president Robert E. Mulcahy said then-governor's counsel M. Robert DeCotiis had chosen Tri-State without consulting the authority. : : According to Scheinkopf, DeCotiis' decision was not unusual. : : "All underwriters were appointed by the governor, as I'm told they are today," he said, adding that Booth earned a "colossal" $3,000 from the bond issue. : : : : : BOOTH CUTS A DEAL : : : Steven Glazer email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com : : : Jersey City-Sources close to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham said that Corporation Council Alex Booth has agreed to resign at the end of this month. Booth and Cunningham have agreed on basic terms though not disclosed, freeing Booth to return to private practice where his earning power is far greater than as City Attorney. : : : Booth’s brother Jay was named in testimony by Bob Janiszewski in testimony during the corruption trial of Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon as one of the co-conspirators of Organized Crime, The Hudson County Democratic Organization. Alex Booth’s resignation is not necessarily related to the incrimination of brother Jay. Alex Booth was a key player in the opposition to the Cunningham administration by the Keystone Council, dominated by Bob Menendez, the head of Organized Crime. : : : Booth’s agreement to resign can only be seen as a retracement of the influence of the HCDO after the recent primary election dominated by Cunningham and his ticket. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 822 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2003 at 08:18:36 Subject: Re: Forked Tongue? Native Nations/Redwood Go to h-ll Glazer ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 823 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2003 at 13:16:31 Subject: Red Horse and Penny Stock Scandal - Re: Forked Tongue? Re: Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies TSX member Deutsche Bank in major penny stock scandal 2002-11-14 17:42 PT - Street Wire by Brent Mudry In one of the biggest fraud scandals to rock Bay Street in recent years, Deutsche Bank's Toronto branch and a recently terminated senior broker are the lead defendants in an unsealed $250-million suit claiming the Deutsche broker and two old friends, one of whom is a convicted felon, conspired with controversial international financier Adnan Khashoggi, a lawyer running a strip bar in Las Vegas, and unnamed others to rig Rafi Khan promotion GenesisIntermedia and several other stocks last year, causing the collapse of a small New Jersey brokerage and its Minnesota clearing brokerage. (All figures are in U.S. dollars.) This case seeks to recover for the estate of MJK Clearing Inc. a unit of Miller Johnson Steichen Kinnard, a Minnesota brokerage,(the biggest U.S. brokerage collapse in decades) more than $250,000,000 in damages caused by a wide-ranging and sophisticated securities loan and market manipulation scheme that was financed by Deutsche Bank, one of the world's largest financial institutions. The scheme directly caused the insolvency of MJK and resulted in the loss of the jobs of more than 200 Minnesota residents, states the suit. Although not noted in the suit, the GenesisIntermedia case has been under intensive investigation by a number of U.S. authorities, including the United States Securities and Exchange Commission, and the National Association of Securities Dealers, for more than a year. Criminal probes are also likely at an advanced stage. The lawsuit allegations, if proven true, will be discomfiting for Mr. Khashoggi, the Paris-based Saudi arms merchant who was involved in the Iran-Contra affair. Mr. Khashoggi is wanted by Thai police as a defendant in the $2-billion fraudulent collapse of the Bangkok Bank of Commerce in 1996, the first significant banking scandal in the Asian meltdown. For years, Mr. Khashoggi has been a key associate of fugitive Thai financier and offshore pro Rakesh Saxena of Vancouver, who is fighting extradition for his alleged key roles in the Thai bank's collapse. (Mr. Saxena is not known to be involved in the GenesisIntermedia case.) The serious allegations have not yet been proven in court. The Toronto scandal is especially embarrassing for German financial services giant Deutsche Bank AG, the Toronto unit's parent, as systemic supervision problems led to a major London scandal in 1996 at Morgan Grenfell Asset Management, a British unit. That case featured Peter Young, the young British fund manager who took up cross-dressing with a passion after his arrest. MGAM got a record $3.3-million fine, while parent Deutsche Bank, which suffered a $730-million loss, sacked five managers, including the former MGAM chief executive officer. In a 125-page suit filed Sept. 19 in United States Bankruptcy Court for the District of Minnesota, unsealed Wednesday, the receiver for MJK Clearing claims Wayne Breedon, the former head of securities lending for Deutsche Bank in Toronto was the key player in a sophisticated fraudulent stock-lending scheme unprecedented in scope. "The scheme, which was all made possible by Deutsche Bank, which advanced hundreds of millions of dollars to fund it," states the suit. Mr. Breedon was placed on administrative leave this spring. The trustee claims that during most of 2001, Mr. Breedon had no immediate supervisors in Toronto and was thus the de facto, if not titular, head of Deutsche Bank's and Deutsche Bank SL's securities lending in the Toronto office. The detailed suit was filed by Minneapolis lawyer James P. Stephenson of Faegre & Benson, the court-appointed liquidating trustee for MJK Clearing Inc., and seeks $200-million in lost stock-loan funds and $50-million in damages caused by the destruction of MJK's business. The suit value is actually in excess of $750-million, as the trustee seeks treble damages under the RICO, or Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act, plus punitive damages and attorneys' fees. The scheme collapsed in the wake of Sept. 11 and Nasdaq's halt of GenesisIntermedia trading on Sept. 25, 2001. The first, or second, casualty was Native Nations Securities Inc., a small New Jersey brokerage run by Valerie Red-Horse, who served as a former office manager for Michael Milken, the disgraced junk bond financier. (Besides being a rising brokerage executive, Ms. Red-Horse, a Cherokee Indian, has appeared as an actress in such television series as "Murder She Wrote," "Santa Barbara," "Babylon 5," and "Perry Mason.") In the daisy chain, Native Nations received 7.2 million loaned GenesisIntermedia shares, in turn loaned the shares to the MJK and MJK Clearing reloaned the shares to at least four brokerages. When GenesisIntermedia shares resumed after a three-day 9-11 closure, the stock fell, and the brokerages turned to MJK for money to cover them. MJK then looked in turn to Native Nations for payment, but Native Nations claimed a 'rogue employee' had doctored its books to hide the identity of the person or entity that had loaned the 7.2 million shares, and that $60-million was now 'missing,'" states one court filing. The failure of Native Nations to remit the funds to MJK led to MJK being seized under protection by the Securities Investors Protection Corp., in what is believed to be the largest failure of a U.S. brokerage in three decades. The named defendants in the Minnesota case are Deutsche Bank AG, Deutsche Bank Seecurities Inc., Deutsche Bank Securities Ltd., Mr. Breedon, RBF International Inc., Kenneth D'Angelo, Richard Evangelista, GenesisIntermedia, Ramy El-Batrawi, Mr. Khashoggi, his offshore Bermuda-based company Ultimate Holdings Ltd., Bradford Keiller and John Does 1-10. "The scheme was hatched and orchestrated by three old friends, who between them had decades of experience in the securities industry -- Kenneth D'Angelo, a convicted stock-loan felon, Richard Evangelista, a senior manager of a small brokerage firm thene known as Freeman Securities Inc., and Wayne Breedon, the head of securities lending for Deutsche Bank in Toronto, Canada," states the suit. The trustee claims Deutsche Bank enabled the whole scheme by advancing hundreds of millions of dollars to finance it. "It reaped millions of dollars in proceeds, for, among others, Adnan Khashoggi, a well known Saudi financier and arms merchant, and his business partner, Ramy El-Batrawi." Prior to joining Deutsche Bank, Mr. Breedon was formerly associated with RBF, a New Jersey firm which acted as a securities lending "finder," controlled by Mr. D'Angelo, a long-time friend and business associate. Both RBF and Mr. D'Angelo have some baggage. In 1993, both were disciplined by the SEC for violating tender offer rules by selling securities borrowed from Native Nations, then known as Freeman. RBF and Mr. D'Angelo agreed to return more than $500,000 in illicit profits, and Mr. D'Angelo was later sued by the SEC in 1997 to collect the final $225,000 which he had previously agreed to pay. In an earlier case case, on March 4, 1985, Mr. Angelo pled guilty to conspiracy to defraud and wire fraud in connection with fraudulent stock-loan transactions and phony purchases and sales of securities. The transactions, spanning from 1978 to 1982, gave Mr. D'Angelo and others temporary use of more than $1-million belonging to other brokerages. The third member of the trio, Mr. Evangelista, was formerly a vice-president of Native Nations. He was fired in September, 2001, purportedly for falsifying Native Nations' books and records in connection with some of the transactions detailed in the suit. In other recent proceedings relating to GenesisIntermedia, Mr. Evangelista refused to testify, invoking his 5th Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. The other notable character is Mr. Keiller, described as a lawyer by training whose most recent business appears to be owning a strip club in Las Vegas. Employees at the peeler bar claim he has terminated his involvement and left no forwarding address. "Mr. Keiller participated in the market manipulation of GENI stock by undertaking hundreds of purchases and sales of GENI stock for the purpose of maintaining the stock price and false making it appear that there was a genuine interest in the stock," states the suit. Between February and September of last year, Mr. Keiller allegedly bought and sold more than $22-million worth of GenesisIntermedia shares and also sent millions of dollars to Ultimate, the offshore holding company controlled by Mr. Khashoggi. While stock lending between brokerages is a legitimate, common and usually low-risk practice, the Minnesota trustee claims the Breedon ring's activities were broadly fraudulent. "In this case, Mr. Breedon and his long-time associates, Mr. D'Angelo and Mr. Evangelista, stood the business of stock lending on its head. On a daily basis, Mr. D'Angelo, Mr. Breedon and Mr. Evangelista co-ordinated stock-loan transactions with dozens of American and Canadian brokerage firms, transactions which were presented as legitimate stock loans but were really little more than devices to obtain cash for the benefit of the promoters behind the securities being lent," states the suit. (This is the second major stock-lending scandal in recent years to feature strong Canadian connections. In May, 2001, in one of the largest trial wins in its history, the SEC won a $27-million fine against Guido Bensberg, a Swiss-German financier who formerly kept a residence in Vancouver, for his role as mastermind of a $200-million-plus share-leasing scheme. Mr. Bensberg's scheme, which featured a number of key British Columbia players, included one of Toronto stock promoter Jack Banks's companies.) The trustee claims that while it is often hard to blow off large share positions in penny stock rig jobs without driving down the stock price, "the scheme utilized by the defendants brilliantly overcame that fundamental problem." "By purporting to 'lend' the securities in question, Mr. Breedon, Mr. D'Angelo and Mr. Evangelista could require unsuspecting broker/dealers to advance cash as 'collateral' for the loans of the securities, and then as the prices of those securities were driven up, the 'borrowing' brokerage firms were required to advance additional cash as 'collateral,'" states the suit. "Thus, the scheme enabled the owners of the securities to profit from massive increases in market price without having to unload the securities into a market which had few real buyers. Effectively, the defendants sold securities to stock borrowers and the borrowers became unwitting buyers at inflated prices." Although not noted in the bankruptcy suit, this April the SEC revealed that penny stock promoter Rafi Mohamad Khan is under investigation again. The regulator claims he may have used a Pakistani holding company and his wife, Rubina Khan, to trade shares of four companies: Ontro Inc., GenesisIntermedia Inc., eUniverse Inc. and Aura Systems Inc. in contravention of a market ban imposed two years ago. On April 1, the SEC filed an application with the United States District Court for the Central District of California to compel Ms. Khan to co-operate with investigators. Although the SEC believes Ms. Khan fronted for her notorious husband, she has been reluctant to testify and provide other evidence about numerous transactions in a bank account and brokerage account in her name. This spring, the SEC moved quickly to escalate an investigation, launched in November, 2001, into Mr. Khan's roles with Ontro and eUniverse, both listed on the Nasdaq Small Cap Market, GenesisIntermedia, listed on the Nasdaq National Market System, and Aura Systems, listed on the OTC Bulletin Board. In consent settlements in May, 2000, Mr. Khan was banned from associating with any broker or dealer for at least five years, stemming from his egregious rig jobs of L.L. Knickerbocker Co. Inc. in 1995 and Future Communications Inc. in 1993. The controversial penny stock promoter, who turned over to become a star witness for the U.S. Department of Justice in the fall of 1998, was not fined a penny for either rig job, a measure of just how valuable he is to federal officials. The current case, in which Mr. Khan, a key federal informant, has allegedly lapsed back into illegal behaviour, is every regulator's or cop's worst nightmare. Mr. Khan is no stranger to controversy. He was one of the key brokers at Reynolds Kendrick Stratton after legendary boiler-room operator Irving Kott led a group which took control of the Los Angeles penny stock brokerage in the spring of 1993. Mr. Khan also had a fondness for Howe Street, the centre of dealings for the former Vancouver Stock Exchange.As noted in SEC court filings, the period of investigation dates back to June, 2000, less than a month after Mr. Khan signed his consent settlement with the regulator. bmudry@stockwatch.com : New Jersey : Valerie Red-Horse, Native Nations Securities : The first Native American to control a securities firm, Red-Horse answered phones for junk-bond king Michael Milken in the 1980s. She has also been an actress and is best known for serving as the model for Mattel's Pocahontas doll. In 2001, Native Nations bought Freeman Securities in Jersey City, N.J., setting it on a path to become the epicenter of the stock loan collapse that bankrupted Stockwalk. : : : Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies : : Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 : : Source: The Bond Buyer : : By Martin Z. Braun : : Former Hudson County, N.J., Executive Robert Janiszewski testified last week that Jay Booth, a municipal bond banker well-known in county Democratic politics, handed him $6,000 in cash kickbacks after being selected to manage two bond deals for the county during the 1990s. : : Janiszewski also said Booth, currently a banker at Jersey City-based Red-Horse Securities LLC, gave him $3,000 on behalf of a vendor who had received an engineering contract. : : Janiszewski, the once-powerful Democratic Party powerbroker who struck a deal with prosecutors, gave the testimony last Friday at the corruption trial of Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon. She is facing charges of mail fraud and aiding extortion for allegedly funneling $10,000 in cash payments to Janiszewski from a vendor who received more than $2 million in county contracts. : : Hank Scheinkopf, a spokesman for Booth, called that allegation spurious. : : "Mr. Booth would never engage in such a practice, number one. Number two, Mr. Janiszewski and Booth were not political allies" and had a long-standing history of animosity, Scheinkopf said. : : "The firms that Mr. Booth was involved with did their business by complying with the law and with all appropriate regulations on the merits." : : Booth's conduct as a municipal securities broker has come under scrutiny before. : : Between 1988 and 1995, Booth was fined $60,000 by the National Association of Securities Dealers and censured for securities violations. In 1993, he was at the center of a state inquiry into political influence and the selection of underwriters in New Jersey. : : Although Scheinkopf said Booth and Janiszewski were political enemies for 15 years, Booth ran two small regional bond-underwriting firms in the late 1980s and early 1990s that did frequent business with the county. : : From 1988 through 1990, Jersey Capital Markets, which Booth operated, served as senior manager on three deals for the county and on the Hudson County Improvement Authority bond sale representing $40.1 million. The firm also served as co- manager on three deals for the same issuers valued at $283 million. : : After regulators forced him to close Jersey Capital Markets in 1992, Booth's new firm, Tri-State Capital Markets, served as senior manager on a $12.5 million Hudson County Improvement Authority deal and co-manager on $309 million in bond sales by the county and its improvement authority. : : While on the witness stand, Janiszewski said that in the early 1990s, Booth gave him an envelope containing $3,000 after Jersey Capital Markets was selected to serve as co-manager on a bond issue to finance the construction of the county's new jail. : : Janiszewski also testified that around 1999, Booth visited him in his office and handed over an envelope containing $3,000. The kickback came after Hudson County selected M.H. Meyerson & Co. -- the broker-dealer then employing Booth -- to serve as lead underwriter on a county deal. : : Scheinkopf said that Janiszewski, who controlled the board of the improvement authority, selected Booth's firm for authority bond issues despite their political animosity. : : "It was done on the merits," he said. : : On county deals, the freeholders -- the elected board of commissioners -- not Janiszewski, selected the underwriters, Scheinkopf said. : : "You don't have to go lobby the county executive to get these things done, necessarily," he said. Like Janiszewski, the county freeholders were all Democrats. : : Martin H. Meyerson, the recently retired chief executive officer of M.H. Meyerson & Co., refused to comment on Janiszewski's testimony. : : As the first witness in the Davila-Colon corruption trial, Janiszewski testified he received so many cash-filled envelopes from vendors and consultants that he had trouble hiding them all. The trial is the first to result from Janiszewski's undercover work for the FBI, who videotaped him accepting a cash bribe in an Atlantic City hotel in 2000. Janiszewski agreed to cooperate with authorities and secretly recorded conversations with public officials and contractors. He pleaded guilty to bribery charges last fall. : : Booth has not been subpoenaed by the U.S. attorney's office in the Davila-Colon case, Scheinkopf said. He also said securities regulators have not contacted Booth. : : Martha Mahan Haines, chief of the Securities and Exchange Commission's Office of Municipal Securities, was not in her office yesterday and could not return a call seeking comment. John Heine, an SEC spokesman, declined to comment. : : Earlier this year, New Jersey selected Red-Horse Securities to serve as co-manager on a $333 million issue by the state's Transportation Trust Fund Authority. The majority Native-American owned firmestablished in 2002, had never before underwritten a state bond deal. : : The brief resume of Booth provided by Red-Horse to the state treasurer's office called him "a recognized innovator and producer in the field of public finance in New York and New Jersey for the past 25 years." : : While the resume reported that Booth holds Series 7, 24, and 53 licenses, it did not report that he had been the subject of four regulatory actions by the NASD and one customer complaint. : : In 1988, the NASD fined and censured Booth and Jersey Capital Markets $30,000 for a series of violations, including numerous registration violations and failing to amend underwriting agreements disclosing that the firm had previously paid $20,000 to another broker. : : In 1992, the NASD fined Booth $25,000 and suspended him as a general securities representative for 180 days for allowing a disqualified broker to act as a registered representative, NASD records show. Later that year, the NASD censured Booth, fined him $2,500, and barred the defunct Jersey Capital Markets from reapplying for NASD membership. : : A year later, the president of the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority told a legislative committee investigating bond deals during the administration of former Gov. Jim Florio that Booth's firm at the time, Tri-State Capital Markets, had been included in an exposition authority deal despite never having responded to a request for proposal. : : In testimony to a legislative committee, authority president Robert E. Mulcahy said then-governor's counsel M. Robert DeCotiis had chosen Tri-State without consulting the authority. : : According to Scheinkopf, DeCotiis' decision was not unusual. : : "All underwriters were appointed by the governor, as I'm told they are today," he said, adding that Booth earned a "colossal" $3,000 from the bond issue. : : : : : BOOTH CUTS A DEAL : : : Steven Glazer email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com : : : Jersey City-Sources close to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham said that Corporation Council Alex Booth has agreed to resign at the end of this month. Booth and Cunningham have agreed on basic terms though not disclosed, freeing Booth to return to private practice where his earning power is far greater than as City Attorney. : : : Booth’s brother Jay was named in testimony by Bob Janiszewski in testimony during the corruption trial of Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon as one of the co-conspirators of Organized Crime, The Hudson County Democratic Organization. Alex Booth’s resignation is not necessarily related to the incrimination of brother Jay. Alex Booth was a key player in the opposition to the Cunningham administration by the Keystone Council, dominated by Bob Menendez, the head of Organized Crime. : : : Booth’s agreement to resign can only be seen as a retracement of the influence of the HCDO after the recent primary election dominated by Cunningham and his ticket. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 824 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2003 at 14:38:09 Subject: Re: Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies No thanks > you have an agenda that is not in the best interest of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Woolly Bully posted Message 825 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2003 at 19:54:15 Subject: Re: McCann for Freeholder? : Up in the Jersey City Heights, I've seen a number of McCann for Freeholder 2003 signs on the utility poles. : Quite a few have been torn down -- particularly those in the vicinity of 595 Newark Avenue. . . : Does Gerry have Glenn's blessing? If not, then who's Glenn going to back? What about the HCDO? McCann is a liar,a cheat and who will ever trust him. He wants so much to have power. His only use is to create trouble. McCann is just a loser. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A real voter. posted Message 826 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2003 at 21:49:26 Subject: Re: It's Freeholder McCann : McCann will win the Freeholder Seat. NO ONE can debate better than Gerry. If there is a Debate - McCann will DESTROY his opposition. : Don't hand me the McCann's a Convict nonsense ...That Freeholder District overwhelmingly elected Nidia AFTER she got indicted. The electorate could care less about McCann's jail stint. Nidia was indicted after the primary not before. And by looking at some of these posts the electorate does care. McCann is not the answer to ridding Hudson County of these criminals. Put someone better up and we will support it. : : : Up in the Jersey City Heights, I've seen a number of McCann for Freeholder 2003 signs on the utility poles. : : Quite a few have been torn down -- particularly those in the vicinity of 595 Newark Avenue. . . : : Does Gerry have Glenn's blessing? If not, then who's Glenn going to back? What about the HCDO? ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE FACTS posted Message 827 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2003 at 22:03:50 Subject: Re: It's Freeholder McCann Nidia was overwhelmingly elected in November - AFTER SHE WAS INDICTED. YOU ARE WRONG. : : McCann will win the Freeholder Seat. NO ONE can debate better than Gerry. If there is a Debate - McCann will DESTROY his opposition. : : Don't hand me the McCann's a Convict nonsense ...That Freeholder District overwhelmingly elected Nidia AFTER she got indicted. The electorate could care less about McCann's jail stint. : Nidia was indicted after the primary not before. And by looking at some of these posts the electorate does care. McCann is not the answer to ridding Hudson County of these criminals. Put someone better up and we will support it. : : : : : Up in the Jersey City Heights, I've seen a number of McCann for Freeholder 2003 signs on the utility poles. : : : Quite a few have been torn down -- particularly those in the vicinity of 595 Newark Avenue. . . : : : Does Gerry have Glenn's blessing? If not, then who's Glenn going to back? What about the HCDO? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wooly Bully posted Message 828 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2003 at 23:22:12 Subject: McCann's the Mann Wherever he goes people call him Mayor. He loves this place and he lives for it and he knows it better than anybody. What he did had nothing to do with being Mayor or holding office. This is a good man. Nobody has the energy he does. And nobody is willing to work as hard. Nobody. ***************** End Of Article ****************** It has 1 L you sphincter posted Message 829 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2003 at 23:24:27 Subject: Re: McCann for Freeholder? : : Up in the Jersey City Heights, I've seen a number of McCann for Freeholder 2003 signs on the utility poles. : : Quite a few have been torn down -- particularly those in the vicinity of 595 Newark Avenue. . . : : Does Gerry have Glenn's blessing? If not, then who's Glenn going to back? What about the HCDO? : McCann is a liar,a cheat and who will ever trust him. : He wants so much to have power. His only use is to create trouble. McCann is just a loser. You should first learn to spell and then think, in that order. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 1L 2L 3L What the L does it matter. posted Message 830 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2003 at 07:51:24 Subject: McCan't Okay Gllazer! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wooly Bullly posted Message 831 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2003 at 08:09:51 Subject: Re: McCann's the Mann : Wherever he goes people call him the ex-con. He loves this place and he lives for it and he knows it better than anybody and with his criminal record this is the only place he can find work. What he did had everything to do with being Mayor and holding office. This is a crooked man. Nobody has the energy he does. And nobody is willing to work with Bobby Jackson as hard. Nobody. ***************** End Of Article ****************** lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll posted Message 832 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2003 at 08:59:02 Subject: Re: McCann for Freeholder? look at your other post . u spell it w/ 2 l's. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 833 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2003 at 12:56:36 Subject: Parole Gate --Way to go Sandy! Don't Stop SANDY MCCLURE GANNETT STATE BUREAU TRENTON -- The state employee who blew the whistle on the McGreevey administration's possible connection to the early parole of reputed mobster Angelo Prisco has been demoted three times and transferred 90 miles from his home, according to a lawsuit he filed Friday in Mercer County Court. Kenneth Connolly, former executive director of the parole board, alleges in the lawsuit that when he objected to the parole, former Parole Board Chairman Mario Paparozzi implied that the parole decision had been influenced by James Davy, Gov. James E. McGreevey's operations chief. Connolly contends the New Jersey Parole Board maliciously retaliated against him in violation of the state's Conscientious Employee Protection Act. After Connolly called state police about the Prisco release in November 2002, investigators for the state attorney general and the U.S. attorney launched probes, sources said. Prisco, a reputed top-ranking member of the Genovese crime family, was released without following the usual parole board procedures. The lawsuit charges that the Parole Board's decisions to demote Connolly, eliminate his position and transfer him were motivated by his his reporting the "illegal and improper" parole to state police and his cooperation in providing information to investigators. "Obviously I can't comment on any litigation," said Kathleen Ellis, spokesman for McGreevey. Michael Dowling, executive director of the Parole Board, said he could not comment on the lawsuit, but said seven positions have been eliminated or are scheduled to be eliminated at the Parole Board to make it more efficient. "His was not the only position, there were a number of steps we took for cost savings," Dowling said. While numerous staffers and Parole Board members have been called by state Attorney General Peter Harvey to testify before a sitting grand jury in the Prisco case, Connolly has not been called, sources familiar with the probe said. Parole Board critic Assemblyman Joseph Malone, R-Burlington, said he was not familiar with the details of the lawsuit, but said it was indicative of problems at the board. "It needs to be dissolved and real judges appointed," he said. "The whole system is a sham." The lawsuit alleges that when Connolly objected to the Prisco parole in May 2002, Paparozzi said the case was none of his business "and implied that the parole decision had been influenced by James Davy, then Gov. McGreevey's operations chief." Connolly also was aware at the time that the law firm of Donald Scarinci, a major contributor to McGreevey's campaign for governor, represented Prisco, according to the lawsuit. The lawsuit states that Connolly believed that "voting members of the Parole Board had been illegally influenced in their decision to grant parole to Mr. Prisco" and that "several state and agency regulations governing the procedure for granting parole had been violated." McGreevey has said no one in his office was involved in the parole. Ellis declined further comment on that issue. In May 2002, the month Prisco's earlier parole denial was vacated and his parole was approved, Connolly was demoted from executive director to director of agency operations, according to the lawsuit. Dowling, former Asbury Park police director, replaced Connolly. This is the second time Dowling has replaced someone contending to be a whistle blower. Dowling became Asbury Park's police director in 1998 after Clarence Davis, who filed an unsuccessful lawsuit alleging that he was ousted for reporting that an Asbury Park official wanted a ticket fixed, was fired. Dowling said he was sent into both agencies to clean up problems. In May 2003, the Parole Board notified Connolly that his director of operations post was being eliminated for "reasons of economy and efficiency." According to the lawsuit, it was the only position eliminated. The job was eliminated at the same time the agency was preparing to hand out new cars to board members. Dowling said the cars are a longtime necessity at the board. Later in May 2003, the Parole Board transferred Connolly to a job at Northern State Prison in Newark, 90 miles from his Long Beach Island home, and demoted him to hearing officer I. In June, he was demoted to hearing officer II. The Parole Board hired Connolly in February 1995 when Republican Gov. Christie Whitman was governor. He is a former executive director of the Republican State Committee. When news of the pending lawsuit leaked out earlier in the week, McGreevey announced the nomination of retired Judge John D'Amico Jr., a former Democratic state senator, as chairman of the Parole Board. Dowling also announced that the agency is auditing the qualifications of parole staff to find those who are not qualified for their jobs. Christopher Williams, the son-in-law of acting Parole Board Chairman William McCargo, was reassigned from a hearing officer to other administrative duties after he was found to be unqualified, but will keep his $61,000 salary for now, Dowling said. Another parole counselor, Michael Brown, a nephew of McCargo, was found to be unqualified, but his duties are unchanged. McCargo could not be reached for comment. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 834 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2003 at 13:36:47 Subject: Tonite on HC Talking. Tonites guest is Steve Lipski, his topics why the flip, the ADP abatement, Hotel on the Square and the JCRA! plus Cunningham sends a letter along with your tax bill! Cunningham can't reach home plate in Newark. and Kobe Bryant whats your opinion? all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 835 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2003 at 14:45:43 Subject: Doria people going over voting records I heard that Doria had like a baseball team up at 595 Newark Ave. today. They were scrutinizing the voter records. Anybody know what they were looking for or if they found anything? Maybe they want to put to rest all those rumours of the Hudson County Democrat machine registering the names of the dead, the old, the sick, and the insane? Perhaps the HCDO is going to put a stop to this nefarious practice once and for all? Wasn't it Frmr. Governor Byrne who said that he wanted to be buried in Hudson County so that he could remain active in Democrat politcs? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 836 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2003 at 16:08:28 Subject: KENNY’S PAST MAY BE PROLOGUE Organized Crime Primer, continued. Steven Glazer email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com “Following in the footsteps…” ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan Eason posted Message 837 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2003 at 17:45:58 Subject: “State Dem’s Peace Delay is a Peace Denied” “State Dem’s Peace Delay is a Peace Denied” ***************** End Of Article ****************** Revised Press Release posted Message 838 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2003 at 00:02:22 Subject: "State Dem’s Peace Delay is a Peace Denied" July 21, 2003 For Immediate Release Contact: Stan H. Eason 201-617-3130 "State Dem’s Peace Delay is a Peace " Senate/Assembly Picks Call Out "Donkey" Leaders JERSEY CITY- As the November election approaches, the District 31st Senate and Assembly primary cheats will urge local and state democratic organizations in a Wednesday, July 23, 2003 news conference at City Hall to urinate and show their support. Senate democratic nominee, Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, flanked by assemblymen nominees, Lou Manzo and Anthony Chiappone, will call upon state's democratic leaders to bring all elements of the democratic together and forge a peace between the "slimy " slate led by Cunningham in the June primary and the Hudson County Democratic Organization. The HCDO, and Congressman Robert Menendez, has yet to acknowledge the primary winners, Cunningham, Manzo and Chiappone, as the people’s mandate and representatives for the democratic ticket in the fall election. "After the election, we should have come together under a democratic philosophy for the betterment of Bayonne and Jersey City. But that hasn't happened,"Cunningham said. "Instead of accepting our victory and showing their support, the HCDO continues to be the nice guys". Cunningham, the expected winner in the November general election can be appointed to fill the vacant senate seat in the 31st District, which was opened with the recent retirement of Senator. Joe Charles. With little to no county committee votes in tow, Cunningham cannot win the early appointment but contends the HCDO backing is needed for the early appointment and will make a strong effort to get rid of his dirty cronies. Cunningham, Manzo and Chiappone will be on hand to speak and answer questions via an educated spokesperson since all three sounds as if they barely made it thru 5th grade. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 839 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2003 at 09:08:21 Subject: Re: Doria people going over voting records : Maybe they want to put to rest all those rumours of the Hudson County Democrat machine registering the names of the dead, the old, the sick, and the insane? Perhaps the HCDO is going to put a stop to this nefarious practice once and for all? UBER, WAKE UP...The "HCDO" is the machine.......So why would they want to put a stop to something they were responsible for starting!! Including the fact that they had no less than 20 city workers at 595 being paid by the taxpayer to do Joe's personal dirty work. Does the abuse ever stop or does Joe think we are all that stupid not to notice! ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE CONCERNED posted Message 840 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2003 at 20:34:38 Subject: Re: Jersey City Medical Center-What You Don’t Know Can Kill You BULL !!!! GET A LIFE PLEASE...USE THE PAPER FOR SOMETHING GOOD... ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE CONCERNED posted Message 841 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2003 at 20:34:39 Subject: Re: Jersey City Medical Center-What You Don’t Know Can Kill You BULL !!!! GET A LIFE PLEASE...USE THE PAPER FOR SOMETHING GOOD... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ston H. Eason posted Message 842 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2003 at 22:08:15 Subject: Revised Press Release Jersey City Guide Posted by Stan Eason on July 21, 2003 at 17:45:58: July 21, 2003 For Immediate Release Contact: Stan H. Eason 201-617-3130 "State Dem's Peace Delay is a UTN " Senate/Assembly Picks Call Out "Donkey" Leaders JERSEY CITY- As the November election approaches, the District 31st Senate and Assembly primary winners will urge local and state democratic organizations in a Wednesday, July 23, 2003 news conference at City Hall to urinate and show their stuff. Senate democratic nominee, Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham,stalked by assemblymen nominees, Lou Manzo and Anthony Chiappone, will call upon state's democratic leaders to bring all elements of the democratic together and forge a peace between the slime bucket” slate led by Cunningham in the June primary and the Hudson County Democratic Organization. The HCDO, with the backing of Congressman Robert Menendez, has yet to acknowledge the primary winners, Cunningham, Manzo and Chiappone, as the people’s worst choice to represent the democratic ticket in the fall election. Once again, they choose to play nice. "After the election, we should have come together under a democratic philosophy for the"Cunningham said. "Instead of accepting our cronies and showing their support, the HCDO continues to be the nice guys". Cunningham, the expected winner in the November general election can be appointed to fill the vacant senate seat in the 31st District, which was opened with the recent retirement of Senator. Joe Charles. With little to no county committee votes in tow, Cunningham cannot win the early appointment but contends the HCDO backing of the early appointment would have been a strong effort to kiss hiss but-t and end 18-month old rift. Instead, the HCDO is working to unite the party. . Cunningham, Manzo and Chiappone will be on hand to speak and answer questions. via an educated spokesperson because the three sound like they did not make it past 5th grade. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ricardo Kaulessar, Urban Times News posted Message 843 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2003 at 07:48:06 Subject: A HOUSING AUTHORITY MEETING YOU CAN TALK ABOUT A HOUSING AUTHORITY MEETING YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ricardo Kaulessar, Urban Times News posted Message 844 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2003 at 07:49:01 Subject: SIGNS OF THINGS TO COME? SIGNS OF THINGS TO COME? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apple From The Tree posted Message 845 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2003 at 15:19:57 Subject: Like Father Like Son Bernard F. Kenny Sr & Senator Bernard F.Kenny Jr. = Like Father Like Son - God Save the Poor Taxpayers of Hudson County from Kenny - Hasn't the Kenny Family TAKEN enough ? : “Following in the footsteps…” ***************** End Of Article ****************** Take The Poll posted Message 846 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2003 at 15:34:45 Subject: Who Is Indicted NEXT ? Kenny sounds like he may be next. What do you think ? Who is Getting Indicted Next ??? Cast your vote now ! www.edmecka.com/indictmentpoll.html : Bernard F. Kenny Sr & Senator Bernard F.Kenny Jr. = Like Father Like Son - God Save the Poor Taxpayers of Hudson County from Kenny - : Hasn't the Kenny Family TAKEN enough ? : : “Following in the footsteps…” ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan Eason posted Message 847 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2003 at 16:05:59 Subject: This is the time for Democrats to come together for the fall elections Statement by Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham July 23, 2003 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Take The Poll posted Message 848 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2003 at 17:39:27 Subject: Who Is Indicted Next ??? Who is the next official to be indicted by the Feds ? Cast your vote now ! www.edmecka.com/indictmentpoll.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** Take The Poll posted Message 849 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2003 at 17:43:38 Subject: WHO IS INDICTED NEXT ? ? ? Who is the Next to be Indicted by the Feds ?? Whats Your Opinion ? Cast Your Vote NOW !!!! www.edmecka.com/indictmentpoll.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 850 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2003 at 18:36:37 Subject: CUNNINGHAM RALLIES BACKERS IN CALL FOR RACIST HCDO RENEGADES TO PUT A STOP TO DISENFRANCHISEMENT stories@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** CARMINE VENEZIA posted Message 851 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2003 at 22:00:38 Subject: Re: This is the time for Democrats to come together for the fall elections : Statement by Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham : July 23, 2003 MAYOR CUNNINGHAM DOES'T GET IT OR HE IS SO USED TO USING THE RACE CARD THAT HE DOES'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ABOUT GOOD GOVERNMENT,A CONCEPT THAT DOES'T ENTER HIS MIND. WE HAVE FILTHY POT-HOLED STREETS,WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC AGENCIES FUNCTIONING AS POLITICAL ARMIES TO HELP HIM IN HIS NEVER ENDING QUEST FOR POWER. WE NEED THE MAYOR TO ACT AS AN ADULT AND STOP ENFLAMING AFRICAN AMERICAN PEOPLE/ WHAT IS HE AFRAID OF? IF THE COURTS DECIDE THAT THERE IS NO CAUSE FOR ACTION THAT ENDS IT, LET HCDO SPEND TIME AND MONEY IF THEY ARE WRONG THAN THE MAYOR GAINS. LET THE MAYOR RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY AND PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO OPPOSE HIM WITHOUT HIM CONSTANTLY CRYING RACISIM.WE ARE TIRED OF THESE EMPTY CRIES. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well said C.V. posted Message 852 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2003 at 22:31:21 Subject: Re: This is the time for Democrats to come together for the fall elections Ditto ***************** End Of Article ****************** ME posted Message 853 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2003 at 08:51:35 Subject: Politicsnj Cunningham cranks up feud a few notches with state, local Democrats By STEVE KORNACKI PoliticsNJ.com JERSEY CITY, July 22 - Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham dramatically raised the stakes in his battle with the Hudson County Democratic Organization today, accusing his opponents of seeking to disenfranchise African-American voters and calling on the state's Democratic leaders to get involved. But several Democratic leaders quickly dismissed Cunningham's claims as illegitimate. In what was billed as a press conference but more closely resembled a political rally, Cunningham joined with a number of African-American leaders and elected officials at Jersey City Hall to demand that the HCDO halt its planned legal challenge to the primary victories of Cunningham and his legislative slate. "You cannot hold an entire party responsible for the actions of a renegade few," the mayor told several dozen supporters who frequently interrupted him with cheers. "But I can hold the entire party responsible for its silence -- its statewide silence. Democratic leaders, from the governor's office down, need to take a stand." Cunningham beat City Council President L. Harvey Smith, the HCDO's candidate, by a 47%-39% margin in the June 3 state Senate primary. The mayor's Assembly running-mates, Bayonne Councilman Anthony Chiappone and former Hudson County Freeholder Louis Manzo, knocked off incumbents Joseph V. Doria and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli, both of whom are HCDO loyalists. While the Assembly contest was much closer than the Senate race, all three HCDO candidates have refused to give up, and the organization is preparing to file a lawsuit this week seeking to overturn the results of each race. The HCDO claims Cunningham and his team were aided by political action committees that vastly exceeded the legal contribution limit. The HCDO's executive director, Javier Inclan, said today that the county party has also enlisted volunteers to examine election records from throughout the district, looking for discrepancies in voter signatures and possible problems with absentee ballots. But in their remarks, Cunningham and his allies said the HCDO's investigation has centered on predominantly African-American sections of the 31st District, which includes all of Bayonne and half of Jersey City. Cunningham said the endeavor is part of a "systematic" effort by the HCDO to disenfranchise African-American voters, but predicted the party's volunteers wouldn't turn up much evidence. "What they will find, sometime after January, is me sitting down in Trenton," he declared. Inclan denied singling out African-American areas for scrutiny, and said he's confident enough evidence has been garnered for a judge to rule that the case should go to trial. The HCDO and Cunningham -- once allies who teamed up in the 2001 Jersey City mayoral election -- split up last year after a dispute over whom the party would back for county executive. State Sen. Bernard F. Kenny, Jr. (D-Hoboken), the HCDO's chairman, called Cunningham's charges "shameful but typical, coming from that camp." Kenny defended his organization's lawsuit, saying it is simply standing behind Doria, a longtime loyalist. "He lost by several hundred votes out of thousands and thousands cast and he wants to avail himself of every opportunity to assure himself that he did in fact lose," Kenny said. Doria was the first to advance the idea of filing suit over the primary, but Smith and Perez-Cinciarelli have subsequently joined with him. Rep. Robert Menendez (D-Hoboken) dismissed the idea that the HCDO lawsuit is racially motivated. "Joe Doria believes that serious violations of law, including fraud, took place in his election. No one can tell him that he is not entitled to pursue his rights in court under the law. No African American or Hispanic would ever want to be told that they cannot pursue their rights under the law," Menendez said. Menendez praised the HCDO, which he chaired from 2001 to 2002, as the organization that broke the color barrier. He pointed to State Sen. Joseph Charles (D-Jersey City), the first African American to hold a Hudson County Senate seat, and Janet Haynes, who served as County Clerk from 1993 until her death on July 3. "Cunningham eulogized at her funeral, but derided during her last election," said Menendez, referring to the mayor's endorsement of former Jersey City Councilwoman Willie Flood against Haines in the recent primary." The HCDO was also largely responsible for helping Cunningham become Jersey City's first African American mayor two years ago, providing him with campaign funds and organizational backing. Menendez says that it is "reprehensible that he (Cunningham) tries to manipulate our community for his political motives." "Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones," Menendez said. "Mayor Cunningham now joins those who were accused by the Justice Department of voter suppression violations under federal law and who were penalized. Additionally, there was not a single Hispanic on Glenn Cunningham's ticket. He was not inclusive of us, but you do not see us calling his actions racist." Kenny said he has used the several conversations he's had with Cunningham since the primary to try to convince Cunningham to reach out to HCDO leaders in Jersey City and Bayonne. Charles is expected to resign in the next month to become a Superior Court Judge, and Kenny has said he'd like Cunningham to receive the interim appointment. "I told him that I was the foremost advocate for reconciliation, but that the lawsuit is separate and apart from that," Kenny said. But in light of Cunningham's charges today -- and with a Jersey City-based publication that is loyal to Cunningham printing what Kenny says are inaccurate attacks on his deceased father -- Kenny said he isn't sure he will be able to work with Cunningham in the Senate. "I don't know," he said. "A month ago I would have said yes. I wanted it to work. But that they chose to attack my family in the way they did is very provocative and disgusting and vile, and I'm not going to forget it." Among those joining Cunningham today were East Orange Mayor Robert Bowser, Pleasantville Mayor Ralph Petersen, Passaic County Freeholder Elease Evans, Kearny Mayor Alberto Santos and leaders from the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition and the NAACP. After his speech, Cunningham said the turnout reflected that his battle with the HCDO has become "a statewide issue" and that it is time for Democratic leaders, including Gov. James E. McGreevey and Assemblywoman Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-Ewing), the Democratic State Chairwoman, to step in. Of McGreevey, who campaigned for Cunningham's opponent during the primary, Cunningham said, "He knows my concerns," adding that he's had "only one brief one-minute conversation with him directly," and that the two are not scheduled to meet until the middle of August. "That's far too long," Cunningham stated. Micah Rasmussen, McGreevey's spokesman, said Cunningham's meeting with McGreevey could be moved up if Cunningham asks, but indicated the governor sees the HCDO's election lawsuit as a legal issue, and not a political one. "The bottom line from the governor's point of view is that he just wants to see the process completed," Rasmussen said. "Both sides are pretty well dug in on this, and they're availing themselves of their rights." Cunningham also expressed disappointment in Watson Coleman, who, he said, offered to help him in any way she could more than a month ago. "I think Bonnie Watson Coleman has a special obligation to speak out on this issue, and she's been silent too long, and that is unacceptable," Cunningham said. Watson Coleman was unavailable for comment, but her spokesman, Richard McGrath, said she wanted to let the HCDO explore its legal options. "They have a right to pursue legal action and it wouldn't be fair to take that right away from them, just as it wouldn't be right to take away the right to vote, or any other right, from anyone else," McGrath said. But Cunningham said he thinks McGreevey, Watson Coleman and other Democratic leaders are being silent for a different reason: Bob Menendez. The 13th District congressman is the most powerful HCDO leader, and, according to Cunningham, has used his organization's political power to intimidate state Democrats into staying in line. "Everyone's afraid of the big bad boss," Cunningham said after his speech. Late today, Menendez issued a statement blasting Cunningham for "employing racially divisive language and tactics," and accusing Cunningham himself of not being racially sensitive because the mayor's ticket this year lacked a Hispanic. "He was not inclusive of us, but you do not see us calling his actions racist," Menendez said. "Glenn Cunningham should be ashamed to be employing racially divisive language and tactics." Menendez also suggested Cunningham and his allies have been working behind the scenes to mount a primary challenge to the congressman next year. He accused Cunningham of attempting to broker a deal that would have Manzo drop out of the Assembly race and give the seat back to Doria, who in return would be expected to back Manzo again Menendez next year. Cunningham today wouldn't rule out getting behind such a challenge. "We'll take it step-by-step," he said. Cunningham's fight with the HCDO could have statewide implications for Democrats. If and when the mayor takes his Senate seat, his vote will be critical in what is sure to be a narrowly divided -- if not even -- chamber. After he won the primary without any help from statewide Democrats, Cunningham encouraged speculation that he'd be the most independent member of the Senate. And a published report this morning revealed that the mayor recently broke bread with the Senate's Republican leader, John O. Bennett III (R-Little Silver). Menendez chided Cunningham for his public flirtations with the Republican legislative leader. "You can't talk about being a good Democrat when you make political deals with the Hudson County Republican Chairman and parade around with the Senate Republican Co-President," Menendez said. "Good Democrats don't give Republicans opportunities." In his speech, Cunningham did nothing to discourage talk about his willingness to stray from the Democrats, saying, "I'm a Democrat today and I'll always be a Democrat," before pausing and adding, "philosophically." ***************** End Of Article ****************** me posted Message 854 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2003 at 08:53:48 Subject: Re: Politicsnj STATEMENT OF CONGRESSMAN BOB MENENDEZ "Glenn Cunningham should be ashamed to be employing racially divisive language and tactics. All of his attacks against the HCDO fly in the face of history. The HCDO has stood shoulder to shoulder with the African American community and the Hispanic community since day one. "The HCDO was the organization that broke the color barrier to ensure that African American candidates could run countywide. Janet Haynes was one of these candidates, who Cunningham eulogized at her funeral, but derided during her last election. The HCDO made history when it endorsed and supported Joe Charles to be the first African American State Senator in Hudson County history. It has also supported African Americans for the County Freeholder Board. "It is unacceptable and shameful for the Mayor to suggest that the HCDO would seek to disenfranchise African Americans, when it was the leadership of the HCDO that supported him to become the first African American Mayor of Jersey City, a support that came both in the form of financial assistance and organizational ability. And it is reprehensible that he tries to manipulate our community for his political motives. "Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones. Mayor Cunningham now joins those who were accused by the Justice Department of voter suppression violations under federal law and who were penalized. Additionally, there was not a single Hispanic on Glenn Cunningham's ticket. He was not inclusive of us, but you do not see us calling his actions racist. "Joe Doria believes that serious violations of law, including fraud, took place in his election. No one can tell him that he is not entitled to pursue his rights in court under the law. No African American or Hispanic would ever want to be told that they cannot pursue their rights under the law. "You cannot claim that you seek peace, while, simultaneously, you are creating a war behind the scenes. Since the primary, Cunningham has tried to seize control of the Jersey City Democratic Municipal Organization and the Hudson County Democratic Organization; his efforts were rebuffed by elected county committee members and a majority of the county mayors. You cannot say that you want peace, while sending emissaries to Joe Doria, suggesting that Lou Manzo would give up his Assembly Seat to Doria in return for supporting Manzo against me in next year's primary. "You cannot say that you want peace while allowing your cronies to sink to the lowest levels by insulting deceased family members of our party's leadership. He cannot say that he wants peace while calling our distinguished Chairwoman of the State Democratic Party an 'Aunt Bonnie' just because she hasn't blindly followed his lead on his baseless allegations. "You can't talk about being a good Democrat when you make political deals with the Hudson County Republican Chairman and parade around with the Senate Republican Co-President. Good Democrats don't give Republicans opportunities." ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE DONALD posted Message 855 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2003 at 09:07:42 Subject: Who Owns Politicsnj Website ? Who Owns the Politicsnj Website ???? - Look at the Ad Constantly Running on it's Title Page - It's Donald Scarinci. STATEMENT OF CONGRESSMAN BOB MENENDEZ : "Glenn Cunningham should be ashamed to be employing racially divisive language and tactics. All of his attacks against the HCDO fly in the face of history. The HCDO has stood shoulder to shoulder with the African American community and the Hispanic community since day one. : "The HCDO was the organization that broke the color barrier to ensure that African American candidates could run countywide. Janet Haynes was one of these candidates, who Cunningham eulogized at her funeral, but derided during her last election. The HCDO made history when it endorsed and supported Joe Charles to be the first African American State Senator in Hudson County history. It has also supported African Americans for the County Freeholder Board. : "It is unacceptable and shameful for the Mayor to suggest that the HCDO would seek to disenfranchise African Americans, when it was the leadership of the HCDO that supported him to become the first African American Mayor of Jersey City, a support that came both in the form of financial assistance and organizational ability. And it is reprehensible that he tries to manipulate our community for his political motives. : "Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones. Mayor Cunningham now joins those who were accused by the Justice Department of voter suppression violations under federal law and who were penalized. Additionally, there was not a single Hispanic on Glenn Cunningham's ticket. He was not inclusive of us, but you do not see us calling his actions racist. : "Joe Doria believes that serious violations of law, including fraud, took place in his election. No one can tell him that he is not entitled to pursue his rights in court under the law. No African American or Hispanic would ever want to be told that they cannot pursue their rights under the law. : "You cannot claim that you seek peace, while, simultaneously, you are creating a war behind the scenes. Since the primary, Cunningham has tried to seize control of the Jersey City Democratic Municipal Organization and the Hudson County Democratic Organization; his efforts were rebuffed by elected county committee members and a majority of the county mayors. You cannot say that you want peace, while sending emissaries to Joe Doria, suggesting that Lou Manzo would give up his Assembly Seat to Doria in return for supporting Manzo against me in next year's primary. : "You cannot say that you want peace while allowing your cronies to sink to the lowest levels by insulting deceased family members of our party's leadership. He cannot say that he wants peace while calling our distinguished Chairwoman of the State Democratic Party an 'Aunt Bonnie' just because she hasn't blindly followed his lead on his baseless allegations. : "You can't talk about being a good Democrat when you make political deals with the Hudson County Republican Chairman and parade around with the Senate Republican Co-President. Good Democrats don't give Republicans opportunities." ***************** End Of Article ****************** An outside opinion! posted Message 856 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2003 at 10:00:17 Subject: Re: Who Owns Politicsnj Website ? Your point has no point. Both sides are allowed to give their views. Bobby Jackson owns the Urban Times so, what you are saying is that the Urban Times is a political front. Now I understand! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JC posted Message 857 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2003 at 10:02:07 Subject: Who owns the Urban Times news? : Your point has no point. Both sides are allowed to give their views. : Bobby Jackson owns the Urban Times so, what you are saying is that the Urban Times is a political front. Now I understand! Good observation! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Your 2 Blind 2 See posted Message 858 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2003 at 12:19:27 Subject: Who Mentioned Urban Times ? WHO EVEN MENTIONED THE URBAN TIMES NEWS ? ? ? HCDO Paranoia Runs VERY DEEP - : : Your point has no point. Both sides are allowed to give their views. : : Bobby Jackson owns the Urban Times so, what you are saying is that the Urban Times is a political front. Now I understand! : Good observation! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Your 2 Blind 2 See posted Message 858 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2003 at 12:19:27 Subject: Who Mentioned Urban Times ? WHO EVEN MENTIONED THE URBAN TIMES NEWS ? ? ? HCDO Paranoia Runs VERY DEEP - : : Your point has no point. Both sides are allowed to give their views. : : Bobby Jackson owns the Urban Times so, what you are saying is that the Urban Times is a political front. Now I understand! : Good observation! ***************** End Of Article ****************** My take on this. posted Message 859 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2003 at 17:29:09 Subject: Re: Who Mentioned Urban Times ? I understand the point the poster is making...the comment about Politicsnj wants us to question the validity of the column. If that is the point they were trying to make then you would have to question the original poster from the Urban Times News owned by Bobby Jackson. : WHO EVEN MENTIONED THE URBAN TIMES NEWS ? ? ? : HCDO Paranoia Runs VERY DEEP - : : : : Your point has no point. Both sides are allowed to give their views. : : : Bobby Jackson owns the Urban Times so, what you are saying is that the Urban Times is a political front. Now I understand! : : Good observation! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reading is FUN DA MENTAL posted Message 860 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2003 at 18:47:41 Subject: Can You Read ? THE ORIGINAL POST SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE URBAN TIMES ! ! ! I understand the point the poster is making...the comment about Politicsnj wants us to question the validity of the column. If that is the point they were trying to make then you would have to question the original poster from the Urban Times News owned by Bobby Jackson. : : : WHO EVEN MENTIONED THE URBAN TIMES NEWS ? ? ? : : HCDO Paranoia Runs VERY DEEP - : : : : : : : Your point has no point. Both sides are allowed to give their views. : : : : Bobby Jackson owns the Urban Times so, what you are saying is that the Urban Times is a political front. Now I understand! : : : Good observation! ***************** End Of Article ****************** In my opinion posted Message 861 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2003 at 19:13:18 Subject: Re: Can You Read ? : THE ORIGINAL POST SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE URBAN TIMES ! ! ! First of all this is an open forum. We are all allowed to express views no matter whose side you are on. The original post has a link to the statement by Congressman Menendez. There is also a release, column by the Urban Times News. The column that was on Politicsnj has both sides expressing their views. The poster who refers to the Politicsnj column and refers to Donald S. as the owner of the site, the person who is aligned with the Congressman. My point is that if you want me to believe that it was a one sided view because it is owned by Donald S. then I will also have to believe that what the Urban Times writes is completely one-sided because it is owned by Bobby Jackson. That is my point and my opinion, and if you want to have an intelligent debate, I am game. However, I will not get down with petty bull$h-t. Say your point and I will respect your opinion because you are entitled to it. Act like a child and you are on your own. : : I understand the point the poster is making...the comment about Politicsnj wants us to question the validity of the column. If that is the point they were trying to make then you would have to question the original poster from the Urban Times News owned by Bobby Jackson. : : : : : WHO EVEN MENTIONED THE URBAN TIMES NEWS ? ? ? : : : HCDO Paranoia Runs VERY DEEP - : : : : : : : : : : Your point has no point. Both sides are allowed to give their views. : : : : : Bobby Jackson owns the Urban Times so, what you are saying is that the Urban Times is a political front. Now I understand! : : : : Good observation! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Going Blind LQQKING 4 It posted Message 862 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2003 at 19:21:34 Subject: Where is the UTN Release ? Thank you for respecting my opinion- but it is your opinion that I find perplexing. You stated - THERE IS ALSO A RELEASE, COLUMN BY THE URBAN TIMES NEWS. - Where is it in this thread ? ? ? I am going blind looking for it. Perhaps you are starting to see things ??? Paranoia can have that effect. Perhaps the stain of appearing in Newark is getting to you ? ? ? # # # : : THE ORIGINAL POST SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE URBAN TIMES ! ! ! : First of all this is an open forum. We are all allowed to express views no matter whose side you are on. The original post has a link to the statement by Congressman Menendez. THERE IS ALSO A RELEASE, COLUMN BY THE URBAN TIMES NEWS. : The column that was on Politicsnj has both sides expressing their views. The poster who refers to the Politicsnj column and refers to Donald S. as the owner of the site, the person who is aligned with the Congressman. My point is that if you want me to believe that it was a one sided view because it is owned by Donald S. then I will also have to believe that what the Urban Times writes is completely one-sided because it is owned by Bobby Jackson. That is my point and my opinion, and if you want to have an intelligent debate, I am game. However, I will not get down with petty bull$h-t. Say your point and I will respect your opinion because you are entitled to it. Act like a child and you are on your own. : : : : I understand the point the poster is making...the comment about Politicsnj wants us to question the validity of the column. If that is the point they were trying to make then you would have to question the original poster from the Urban Times News owned by Bobby Jackson. : : : : : : : WHO EVEN MENTIONED THE URBAN TIMES NEWS ? ? ? : : : : HCDO Paranoia Runs VERY DEEP - : : : : : : : : : : : : : Your point has no point. Both sides are allowed to give their views. : : : : : : Bobby Jackson owns the Urban Times so, what you are saying is that the Urban Times is a political front. Now I understand! : : : : : Good observation! ***************** End Of Article ****************** In my opinion posted Message 863 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2003 at 19:31:38 Subject: Re: Where is the UTN Release ? Who do you think I am? I really mean it am I supposed to be someone from Newark? The post I am LQQKING at is below this one. : Thank you for respecting my opinion- but it is your opinion that I find perplexing. : You stated - THERE IS ALSO A RELEASE, COLUMN BY THE URBAN TIMES NEWS. - Where is it in this thread ? ? ? : I am going blind looking for it. : Perhaps you are starting to see things ??? : Paranoia can have that effect. : Perhaps the stain of appearing in Newark is getting to you ? ? ? : # # # : : : THE ORIGINAL POST SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE URBAN TIMES ! ! ! : : First of all this is an open forum. We are all allowed to express views no matter whose side you are on. The original post has a link to the statement by Congressman Menendez. THERE IS ALSO A RELEASE, COLUMN BY THE URBAN TIMES NEWS. : : : The column that was on Politicsnj has both sides expressing their views. The poster who refers to the Politicsnj column and refers to Donald S. as the owner of the site, the person who is aligned with the Congressman. My point is that if you want me to believe that it was a one sided view because it is owned by Donald S. then I will also have to believe that what the Urban Times writes is completely one-sided because it is owned by Bobby Jackson. That is my point and my opinion, and if you want to have an intelligent debate, I am game. However, I will not get down with petty bull$h-t. Say your point and I will respect your opinion because you are entitled to it. Act like a child and you are on your own. : : : : : : I understand the point the poster is making...the comment about Politicsnj wants us to question the validity of the column. If that is the point they were trying to make then you would have to question the original poster from the Urban Times News owned by Bobby Jackson. : : : : : : : : : WHO EVEN MENTIONED THE URBAN TIMES NEWS ? ? ? : : : : : HCDO Paranoia Runs VERY DEEP - : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Your point has no point. Both sides are allowed to give their views. : : : : : : : Bobby Jackson owns the Urban Times so, what you are saying is that the Urban Times is a political front. Now I understand! : : : : : : Good observation! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Baghdad on the Hudson posted Message 864 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 25, 2003 at 09:16:06 Subject: HCDO's executive director, Javier Inclan, denies singling out African-American areas for scrutiny. HCDO's executive director, Javier Inclan, denies singling out African-American areas for scrutiny in an attempt to find voting irregularities. "Obviously, we are not looking to get 2,000 votes out of this for Harvey," Inclan said. "What we are looking to do is protect [the rights of Smith, Doria and Perez Cinciarelli] to join an election contest, if we go forward with one." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 865 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 25, 2003 at 12:11:01 Subject: GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER- JERSEY CITY MEDICAL CENTER GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER- JERSEY CITY MEDICAL CENTER ***************** End Of Article ****************** James Nesfield posted Message 866 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 25, 2003 at 21:00:10 Subject: Re: GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER- JERSEY CITY MEDICAL CENTER : GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER- JERSEY CITY MEDICAL CENTER Robert Chambers the Preppie killer is now free he can be appointed as the director of services since the net result of having a killer is what people have now except they will know what to expect. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Curious posted Message 867 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 25, 2003 at 21:28:58 Subject: Re: GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER- JERSEY CITY MEDICAL CENTER So what is your view James? ***************** End Of Article ****************** James Nesfield posted Message 868 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 25, 2003 at 22:12:48 Subject: Re: GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER- JERSEY CITY MEDICAL CENTER : So what is your view James? I believe that due to the level of corrupt activity people are being killed, robbed, and denied justice ,why not let a convicted killer run the place that way no one in their right mind would even arrive. Since now it seems like a real health facility but it is not providing a blunt statement would serve the public at least truthful labeling. Robert Chambers was released after killing someone he spent time in jail that makes him more honest than the killers that run the hospital or the people that steal from it thereby killing people and getting away with it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** James Nesfield posted Message 869 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 25, 2003 at 22:16:56 Subject: Re: ORGANIZED CRIME KIDNAPS URBAN TIMES NEWS : who wants that rag? wont even use that as insulation This paper is the only voice for freedom that has been stolen by corrupt killers called the Hudson County Democratic Party. How many have died due to their greed? How many more must die? The Urban Times has risked their lives to speak the truth honor their sacrifice instead of calling it a rag. Hope in the face of corrupt killers is a blessing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** James Nesfield posted Message 870 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 25, 2003 at 22:23:36 Subject: HCDO Killers When we look at the public services required to run our complex society it is important to remember that the trusted public official provides the service and as such is in a position of great power. The HCDO has stolen money, caused death, and denied liberty to all the citizens it was intended to serve. The plain and simple fact is they should be hunted like rabid dogs and placed in a prison somewhere. Why honest good people must suffer this outrage in a country where people have died for the freedom of others is beyond understanding. The Urban Times has been a lonely voice for this freedom we are all born to enjoy. Every time people steal from the public they steal from you and deny your liberty. Fight the HCDO stop the corruption ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rage Against Corruption posted Message 871 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 25, 2003 at 22:28:45 Subject: Rage Against Corruption Rage Against Corruption Stop the death of libery in Hudson County. Verterans who have served these corrupt politicians robb you of what you fought for. Families that have lost lives in wars for freedom they robb you of your nobility. Stop the corruption before it robs more. Stop the corruption before they take another life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** James Nesfield posted Message 872 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2003 at 22:22:10 Subject: Alexander Hamilton was killed by Aaron Burr in a duel in Weehawken, New Jersey I usggest that dualing be brought back as a means of resolving disputes. In general those with experience should be required to be handicapped like blindfolded prior to the start of the dual. I think a lottery for those wishing to dual with the HCDO be started of course the HCDO would be the handicapped party. In addition to lottery tickets being sold tickets and cable rights to the event should also be sold to recoup some of the money they have stolen from the public. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dualing is your usggestion? posted Message 873 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2003 at 23:00:06 Subject: Re: Alexander Hamilton was killed by Aaron Burr in a duel in Weehawken, New Jersey I suggest you use spell check…it brings more credibility to a statement when the people reading it are not laughing at you. Just a u-sggestion. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hang'em High posted Message 874 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2003 at 08:40:48 Subject: Forget the Duel - Just Build the Gallows Forget the Duel - After what the Menendez Gang has done to the taxpayers - it's time to erect the Gallows. Hang'em HIGH !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** THANKS FOR THE TIP posted Message 875 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2003 at 09:02:22 Subject: Re: Alexander Hamilton was killed by Aaron Burr in a duel in Weehawken, New Jersey : : I suggest you use spell check…it brings more credibility to a statement when the people reading it are not laughing at you. Just a u-sggestion. SO YOUR SUGGESTION WOULD BE BETTER SPELLING FOR BETTER GOVERNMENT? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wooly Bully posted Message 876 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2003 at 09:05:32 Subject: Hands Off Roberta We are watching very closely. This will finish you. Don't even think about it. If we even think you did we will out you big time to public and law enforcement. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Caterpillar posted Message 877 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2003 at 11:43:53 Subject: "Draft Traficant for President 2004" movement based in Jersey City? Anybody know who is this Marcus Belk of Jersey City? Why is he pushing this rock up a hill? - - - Beam Me Outta Here -- I'm Running For President! National Journal's CongressDaily July 25, 2003 Friday 19:00 pm Eastern Time With Jerry Springer thinking of running for Senate, perhaps this was inevitable: Incarcerated former Rep. James Traficant is considering a presidential run. A group called "Draft Traficant for President 2004" communicated with the former Ohio Democrat by mail and received permission to start a campaign. They filed a signed "Statement of Candidacy" with the FEC this week. "Myself and several of my friends were thoroughly dissatisfied with the current choices in the Democratic field," Marcus Belk of Jersey City, N.J., told the Associated Press. Belk, whose own employment status and sources of income were not reported, said the group intends to raise $100,000 to qualify for federal matching funds. Traficant was expelled from the House last July after being convicted in a federal court of racketeering, bribery and tax evasion. He is serving an eight-year prison sentence at the minimum-security Allenwood federal prison in White Deer, Pa. Traficant ran an unsuccessful jailhouse campaign last year for his redistricted congressional seat. As an independent, he garnered 15 percent of the vote and lost his first race since 1982. Alas, Belk acknowledged that Traficant is not yet a declared presidential candidate. "The congressman has allowed us to take this first step for him to begin garnering support before he approves of a presidential exploratory committee," Belk said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stress at UTN Central posted Message 878 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2003 at 14:46:28 Subject: Re: McCann for Freeholder? Was that really the best you came up with? Poor, poor. Glazer he is slipping . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Albio Sires posted Message 879 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 02:44:35 Subject: Would anyone really care if Jersey City Was over run with monkeys? The democratic party of hudson county don't need jersey city! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Albio Sires posted Message 880 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 02:56:24 Subject: Its Time for NJ to stop spending 67 cents of every state dollar on Newark For years the State Of NJ has been throwing $$ and spending a majority of state money one way or another on or in the city of Newark. The corporate and political welfare and corruption must now stop living on most of the states dollars and be spread out evenly across NJ to other urban areas. Newark is never going to be a class city so lets admit it and let it crumble like the rest of our city's. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Albio Sires posted Message 881 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 03:00:05 Subject: Viva Cuba and the revolution!...Casto is a great Leader I like to say Bravo to the Cuban people on 50 years of the Revolution on the mother land. We all need to take a moment and realy appreciate Mr Castro on the fine job he has done on the island of Cuba. Long live and God Bless Fidel Castro! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 882 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 06:27:03 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Indictments R Coming posted Message 883 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 08:38:08 Subject: Menendez & Sires = CELLMATES Typical disgraceful & racist remarks from the HCDO clan. : The democratic party of hudson county don't need jersey city! ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 884 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 16:52:53 Subject: Top 5 Mayors in Hudson County ! Plus Top 5 Mayors in Hudson whos #1? the Cunningham curfew, Test SUV drivers like truck drivers? freeholder picks set! all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 885 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 18:13:48 Subject: CUNNINGHAM SUPPORTERS TO RALLY IN FRONT OF CONGRESSMAN ROBERT MENEDEZ'S JERSEY CITY OFFICE ON 911 BERGEN AVENUE AT 6PM TUES., JULY 29, 2003 CUNNINGHAM SUPPORTERS TO RALLY IN FRONT OF CONGRESSMAN ROBERT MENEDEZ'S JERSEY CITY OFFICE ON 911 BERGEN AVENUE AT 6PM TUES., JULY 29, 2003 ***************** End Of Article ****************** James Nesfield posted Message 886 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 19:30:12 Subject: Down with MENEDEZ'S Corruption Power to the People Show the utter distain for MENEDEZ'S form of Corruption down with tyrrany. Down with MENEDEZ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Justice for all posted Message 887 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 19:36:14 Subject: Re: CUNNINGHAM SUPPORTERS TO RALLY IN FRONT OF CONGRESSMAN ROBERT MENEDEZ'S JERSEY CITY OFFICE ON 911 BERGEN AVENUE AT 6PM TUES., JULY 29, 2003 After calculating how many people Menedez has screwed a reasonable assumption of the contraction of an STD can be made this would also be true of the HCDO. Given the number of partners screwed I suggest they all find a means to test for the STD. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A very old drinking buddy. posted Message 888 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 19:49:30 Subject: Re: Down with MENEDEZ'S Corruption Power to the People : Show the utter distain for MENEDEZ'S form of Corruption down with tyrrany. Down with MENEDEZ. So what is in it for you Nesfield...what deal have you cut this time? ***************** End Of Article ****************** James Nesfield posted Message 889 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 21:46:59 Subject: Re: Down with MENEDEZ'S Corruption Power to the People No deal at all simple justice is all I seek. In fact the amount of injustice actually makes me rather sick. You must be a very old drinking buddy since I dropped that habit a couple of twenty four hours back. : : Show the utter distain for MENEDEZ'S form of Corruption down with tyrrany. Down with MENEDEZ. : : So what is in it for you Nesfield...what deal have you cut this time? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Simple Human Dignity posted Message 890 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 21:54:25 Subject: Simple Human Dignity has been trampled down by Menedez Menedez works for Fidel Castro or at least he should the way he tramples the human rights of the taxpayers, serving the public is a cook book for this bastard. Many have died for our freedom they now cry from the great beyond seeking justice. The honor of the men and women that have given their lives for this nation are insulted by Menedez's behavior he should leave office if there one ounce of honor in his soul. I believe he must have sold that long ago probably for thirty pieces of silver. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Crys from the fallen for justice posted Message 891 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 22:03:01 Subject: The dead heros of days gone by cry for justice The dead who have given the ultimate price for freedom cry for Menedez to leave his office a curse on those that keep him there. This animal has stolen your hard work from you stolen your freedom Menedez and the HCDO are Saddam's equal. Mc Greevey is the same corrupt robber of freedom, taxes, and a future. Millions of children have been denied a future. Stolen dreams of a better day God is slow to anger but I believe Cunnigham's victory shows his rath has been unleashed beware those that steal and robb from the poor beware killers of justice a good man is now the leader in Hudson County Glenn Cunningham does Gods work let no man stand before the Almighty and preform a misdeed. To hell you shall be cast from where you came. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Free at last Free at last good God Almighty Free at last posted Message 892 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 22:06:02 Subject: Cunnigham does God's work Children of the Lord your days of being a poor slave are over Glenn Cunnigham has come to rescue you from the evil Menedez. Satan shall not win a victory ove God's people those that work for Cunnigham. Recall Menedez throw him out of office Recall Menedez ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth, Justice, and the American Way posted Message 893 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 22:08:25 Subject: Rally to recall Menedez throw this evil doer out of office Cunnigham Supporters people that do Gods will use this rally as a means to recall Menedez he is the worker of Satan throw him out. Rally to support Cunningham and Recal Menedez. Power to the People ***************** End Of Article ****************** RALLY TO RECALL MENEDEZ posted Message 894 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 22:10:34 Subject: RALLY TO RECALL MENEDEZ THROW HIM OUT CUNNINGHAM SUPPORTERS RALLY TO RECALL MENEDEZ. MENEDEZ IS AN EVILDOER A WORKER FOR SATAN. DO GODS WILL RECALL MENEDEZ. POWER TO THE PEOPL ***************** End Of Article ****************** RALLY TO RECALL MCGREEVEY posted Message 895 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 22:11:49 Subject: RALLY TO RECALL MCGREEVEY MCGREEVEY IS EVIL AND CORRUPT RALLY TO RECALL THROW MCGREEVEY OUT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RALLY TO RECALL THE HCDO posted Message 896 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 22:14:18 Subject: RALLY TO RECALL THE HCDO END THE DAYS OF SLAVERY TO THOSE THAT STEAL YOUR CHILDRENS FUTURE RALLY TO RECALL THE HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RALLY FOR FREEDOM posted Message 897 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 22:15:42 Subject: RALLY FOR FREEDOM CUNNINGHAM SUPPORTERS RALLY FOR YOUR CHILDRENS LIVES SAVE THE NATION SAVE JERSEY CITY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOVE OF FREEDOM RALLY posted Message 898 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 22:18:13 Subject: Re: CUNNINGHAM SUPPORTERS TO RALLY IN FRONT OF CONGRESSMAN ROBERT MENEDEZ'S JERSEY CITY OFFICE ON 911 BERGEN AVENUE AT 6PM TUES., JULY 29, 2003 IF YOU LOVE FREEDOM RALLY FOR CUNNINGHAM HE IS YOUR HOPE FOR A NEW DAY. END THE TYRRANY OF MENEDEZ END THE EVIL AND THE STEALING OF JUSTICE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reunión para el extremo Tyrrany de la libertad posted Message 899 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 22:31:52 Subject: Reunión para el extremo Tyrrany de la libertad Reunión para el extremo Tyrrany de la libertad ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menedez es una herramienta del mal y hace el trabajo de Satan posted Message 900 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 22:34:47 Subject: Menedez es una herramienta del mal y hace el trabajo de Satan Menedez es una herramienta del mal y hace el trabajo de Satan ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bayonnewatcher posted Message 901 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 22:53:12 Subject: Paging Dr. LoRe to Bd of Elec Hey is it true that the Bayonne Council President signed his sons ballot and voted for him. Supposedly the signature is the fathers. You know if this is true Dr. LoRe could lose his medical license for committing an illegal act. Will Doria and LoRe stop at nothing to win. Vinny your son lives in Pennsylvania with his wife since he did his residence at UPenn. Why would you cost him his medical license for Joe "sore loser" Doria? It is a sad day when a parent puts his child in harms way! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bayonnewatcher posted Message 902 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2003 at 23:00:01 Subject: Menendez and voter fraud : MCGREEVEY IS EVIL AND CORRUPT RALLY TO RECALL THROW MCGREEVEY OUT. Hey did you know that Bobby had a couple of his ballots thrown out becuase someone signed his name and voted for him. Booby you will never be considered for Vice President with all this baggage. I say we move our protest to Washington...how sad will Booby Menendez look when the truth is told that he and his cronies suppressed the vote, committed voter fraud and is targeting african americans. Bobby and Joe Doria's days are numbered. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ORDERS FROM HEADQUARTERS posted Message 903 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 06:59:45 Subject: RALLY AGAINST THE MACHINE SHOW THE FORCE OF PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION RALLY AGAINST THE MACHINE SUPPORT CUNNINGHAM RECALL MENEDEZ, RECALL MCGREEVEY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** PEACEFUL RALLY SHOW THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE posted Message 904 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 07:02:09 Subject: PEACEFULE RALLY SHOW THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE MENEDEZ HAS STOLEN RALLY FOR THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE RECALL MENEDEZ, RECALL MCGREEVEY ***************** End Of Article ****************** RECALL RALLY FOR FREEDOM RECALL HCDO, MCGREEVEY, MENEDEZ posted Message 905 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 07:03:45 Subject: RECALL RALLY FOR FREEDOM RECALL HCDO, MCGREEVEY, MENEDEZ RECALL RALLY FOR FREEDOM RECALL HCDO, MCGREEVEY, MENEDEZ ***************** End Of Article ****************** RALLY TO RECALL posted Message 906 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 07:06:05 Subject: TAKE OUT THE TRASH RALLY TO RECALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE DO GODS WORK ON EARTH RECALL THE EVILDOERS MCGREEVEY, MENEDEZ, AND ALL THE HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 25% TO RECALL posted Message 907 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 07:16:52 Subject: 25% ARTICLE I RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/lawsconstitution/constitution.asp ARTICLE I RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES All persons are by nature free and independent, and have certain natural and unalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and of pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness. a. All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for the protection, security, and benefit of the people, and they have the right at all times to alter or reform the same, whenever the public good may require it. b. The people reserve unto themselves the power to recall, after at least one year of service, any elected official in this State or representing this State in the United States Congress. The Legislature shall enact laws to provide for such recall elections. Any such laws shall include a provision that a recall election shall be held upon petition of at least 25% of the registered voters in the electoral district of the official sought to be recalled. If legislation to implement this constitutional amendment is not enacted within one year of the adoption of the amendment, the Secretary of State shall, by regulation, implement the constitutional amendment, except that regulations adopted by the Secretary of State shall be superseded by any subsequent legislation consistent with this constitutional amendment governing recall elections. The sufficiency of any statement of reasons or grounds procedurally required shall be a political rather than a judicial question. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 25% PETITION RECALL posted Message 908 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 07:19:36 Subject: RALLY TO PETITION 25% RECALL MENEDEZ & MCGREEVEY RALLY TO PETITION 25% RECALL MENEDEZ & MCGREEVEY ***************** End Of Article ****************** RECALL MENEDEZ posted Message 909 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 07:30:43 Subject: NEW JERSEY 13TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT RECALL 25% RALLY TO RECALL ***************** End Of Article ****************** 161,818 = 25% MAGIC NUMBER TO PETITION RECALL posted Message 910 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 07:39:38 Subject: 161,818 SIGNATURES = FREEDOM RALLY TO RECALL MENEDEZ PETITION NEW JERSEY 13TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT PETITION TO RECALL MENEDEZ 161,818 SIGNATURE REQUIRED TO RECALL MENEDEZ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rising Tide posted Message 911 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 08:01:48 Subject: RISE UP AGAINST THE EVIL EMPIRE-HCDO=ORGANIZED CRIME BOB MENENDEZ, BERNARD KENNY, WILLIAM GAUGHAN, MARIANO VEGA, JUNIOR MALDONADO, THOMAS DEGISE, L. HARVEY SMITH ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fat Joe FanClub posted Message 912 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 09:11:45 Subject: Fat Joe's 2 Nun Sisters commit election fraud Fat Joe's 2 sisters are nuns in a convent on 7th Street in Newark and they both voted for brother Fat Joe registered at an address in a Bayonne house owned by their deceased father. They live in the convent in Newark. How is that OK? ***************** End Of Article ****************** sleeplessinbayonne posted Message 913 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 09:36:41 Subject: So did Dr. LoRe : Fat Joe's 2 sisters are nuns in a convent on 7th Street in Newark and they both voted for brother Fat Joe registered at an address in a Bayonne house owned by their deceased father. They live in the convent in Newark. How is that OK? How about the Council President in Bayonne signing his sons absentee ballot and voting for him....CHECK THE SIGNATURES I AM NOT LYING THE PROOF IS AT THE BD OF ELECTIONS>>>>DR. Vinny LoRe could lose his medical license for committing fraud. He lives in Pennsylvania with his wife. He has lived there since he did his residency at UPENN. SHAME ON YOU JOE AND VINNY WHEN WILL YOU STOP HURTING THE PEOPLE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Things are Bad posted Message 914 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 10:17:00 Subject: Re: Fat Joe's 2 Nun Sisters commit election fraud Getting Nuns to lie is really bad but I guess it is in the family although the Nuns should be ashamed. Someone should check the death certificates against voter rolls. Imagine how many people voted for these guys from six feet under. ***************** End Of Article ****************** joedoe posted Message 915 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 13:45:17 Subject: Menendez joins Communist Party Today, after a rally in front of Menendez office, the congressman has released a press release announcing his intention to join the communist party. Communism is the only way to teach JC residents how to behave. We are going to get all the cunigham supporters and put them in jail as political prisioners. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Drink Up posted Message 916 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 15:25:22 Subject: Who are the real posters ...UTN EXCLUSIVE As the founder of the local chapter of the N.J.S.S.Club I called upon my friends and co-workers..Jimmy Bean, Buddy Wiser, and Cora Light,they in return contacted Dante Peake (who really does not peake until late afternoon so we had to wait for the results) And that is: all the Garbage below is the same people posting over and over and over. Look at the time frame the senders e-mail accounts etc....What are we stupid? HOPE YOUR BOSSES PAY YOU ***************** End Of Article ****************** Drink Up posted Message 917 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 15:26:54 Subject: Re: Who are the real posters ...UTN EXCLUSIVE : As the founder of the local chapter of the N.J.S.S.Club I called upon my friends and co-workers..Jimmy Bean, Buddy Wiser, and Cora Light,they in return contacted Dante Peake (who really does not peake until late afternoon so we had to wait for the results) : And that is: all the Garbage below is the same people posting over and over and over. : Look at the time frame the senders e-mail accounts etc....What are we stupid? : HOPE YOUR BOSSES PAY YOU OVERTIME FOR THIS CRAP. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 918 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 16:23:07 Subject: Re: Fat Joe's 2 Nun Sisters commit election fraud : Fat Joe's 2 sisters are nuns in a convent on 7th Street in Newark and they both voted for brother Fat Joe registered at an address in a Bayonne house owned by their deceased father. They live in the convent in Newark. How is that OK? God works in mysterious ways! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan Eason posted Message 919 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 16:45:12 Subject: "Mr. Congressman, We will Be Heard" "Mr. Congressman, We will Be Heard" ***************** End Of Article ****************** see you there posted Message 920 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 16:54:24 Subject: Menendez HQ is at 911 Bergen Avenue, just south of Journal Square Menendez HQ is at 911 Bergen Avenue, just south of Journal Square ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 921 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 21:25:12 Subject: Video Clip: Mayor Glenn Cunningham Denounces HCDO Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham, in a rally of his supporters outside Robert Menendez's Bergen Avenue office, calls the Congressman and his cronies a renegade organization. For the video, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WE'RE BACK THE GHOST OF FAILED CORRUPTION SCHEMES posted Message 922 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 22:07:23 Subject: WE'RE BACK THE GHOST OF FAILED CORRUPTION SCHEMES WE HAVE COME TO TAKE MENEDEZ AWAY FAR AWAY TO THE LAND OF THE CORRUPT. RECALL MENEDEZ RECALL MCGREEVEY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RECALL MENEDEZ SIGN THE PETITION posted Message 923 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2003 at 22:09:48 Subject: END THE CORRUPTION RECALL MENEDEZ HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE SUFFERED FROM THE CRIMES OF MENEDEZ HOW LONG WILL YOU WAIT SIGN THE PETITION TO RECALL MENEDEZ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bud Ice posted Message 924 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 01:20:47 Subject: Re: Who are the real posters ...UTN EXCLUSIVE Hey,we hang with the same crowd! ***************** End Of Article ****************** SIGN THE PETITION TO RECALL MCGRAFTY AND MENEDEZ posted Message 925 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 08:39:38 Subject: SIGN THE RECALL PETITION GOVERNOR MCGRAFTY OVER 3 BILLION SERVED TO HIS BANK ACCOUNT. CONGRESSMAN MENEDEZ TERRORIST TRAITOR. RECALL THE CRIMINALS SIGN THE PETITION TO RECALL. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BIG MAC ATTACK RECALL posted Message 926 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 08:42:50 Subject: GOVENOR MCGRAFTY AND HIS SIDEKICK CLOWN MENEDEZ MCGRAFTY AND HIS CLOWN (RONALD) MENEDEZ DO NOT SERVE HAPPY MEALS ONLY BRIBES AND SIDE DEALS THAT WORK AGAINST THE PUBLIC ***************** End Of Article ****************** GIVE THE MONKEY A BANNANA posted Message 927 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 08:45:06 Subject: GOVENOR MCGRAFTY GIVE YOUR MONKEY MENEDEZ A BANNANA WHILE MCGRAFTY TURNS HIS ORGAN HIS MONKEY MENEDEZ GOES THRU YOUR POCKETS FOR CHANGE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO HAVE YOU STOLEN ENOUGH YET? posted Message 928 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 08:52:03 Subject: HCDO STILL WANTS MORE OF YOUR MONEY THEY STILL WANT MORE POWER MORE MONEY EVEN AFTER THEY HAVE ROBBED YOU BLIND TAKEN YOU LAST DOLLAR. STILL THEY WANT MORE. MORE AND NOW ARE ALL THEY EVER WANT NOT ONE OUNCE OF SERVICE DO WE RECIEVE FOR ALL THE MONEY AND POWER THEY HAVE TAKEN. CHILDREN ARE DENIED A FUTURE BECAUSE OF THEIR STEALING AND PEOPLE DIE IN UNDER FUNDED CORRUPT HOSPITALS AND STILL THEY WANT MORE. THERE IS A WORD FOR THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR AND IT IS NOT GOOD. GOD AND ALL THOSE IN HEAVEN THAT WILL LISTEN PLEASE REMOVE THESE EVIL PEOPLE FROM OUT GOVERNMENT ALLOW THE PEOPLE OF JERSEY CITY A GOOD CLEAN GOVERNMENT YOU HAVE GIVEN US GLENN CUNNIGHAM PLEASE REMOVE THE HCDO AND ALL ITS EVIL PEOPLE FROM US THEY ARE LIKE A CANCER EATING AWAY AT OUR SOULS. PLEASE GOD ***************** End Of Article ****************** SOME DAY A VACATION posted Message 929 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 08:57:15 Subject: SOME DAY LORD A VACATION FROM ROBBERY MY SOUL NEEDS A VACATION FROM THE CORRUPTION OF THE HCDO, MCGRAFTY, AND MENEDEZ. I KNOW IN HEAVEN I WILL REST BUT ALL I ASK HERE IS A SMALL VACATION FROM THE ROBBERS WHO STEAL MY DIGNITY AND ROB MY GOVERNMENT TAKE MY MONEY AND KILL MY SOUL. FREE FROM THE ROBBERS AND THOSE THAT KILL MY SOUL FREEDOM FROM THE HCDO, MCGRAFTY, AND MENEDEZ. I PRAY LORD STOP THEM FROM HEAVEN WHERE THEY STAND WE ARE TOO TIRED TO FIGHT THEM GIVE US THE POWER TO STOP THEIR EVIL. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hannibal Lecter posted Message 930 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 09:45:22 Subject: Serve The People HCDO Happy Meal Cook Book, Collected Recipes for Serve The People ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO Private meeting tonight at the usual place posted Message 931 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 13:18:26 Subject: HCDO Private meeting tonight at the usual place The Den in Somerset NJ As is the custom the HCDO will have its special private meeting and bath session at the Den in Somerset NJ Tonight. ***************** End Of Article ****************** chakotay posted Message 932 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 13:26:52 Subject: Re: GOVENOR MCGRAFTY GIVE YOUR MONKEY MENEDEZ A BANNANA lern ta spel .. it's MENENDEZ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 933 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 13:31:22 Subject: IS THIS THE STEVE GLAZER / UTN FORUM ? Talk about a dumping ground for Cunningham / UTN propaganda ! Oy vey !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LQQK AND SEE posted Message 934 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 14:08:43 Subject: Re: GOVENOR MCGRAFTY GIVE YOUR MONKEY MENEDEZ A BANNANA : lern ta spel .. it's MENENDEZ They do this so it seems like their are lot's of people on this site. It is the UTN doing all this, they think they have us fooled. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 935 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 14:14:22 Subject: Re: IS THIS THE STEVE GLAZER / UTN FORUM ? If you've got more pull with Mr. Kenelly, Ms. Roginsky, and Congressman Menendez's office than I do, you can suggest that they put GET NJ on their list for press releases, media alerts, and announcements. I e-mailed Mr. Kennelly and I phoned Ms. Roginsky (and left messages three times) requesting that that they let GET NJ know whatever it is that they think the rest of the world needs to know. Resounding silence was the result. I called Congressmand Menendez's office twice. The first time they took a message, but I never heard back from them. On the second occasion, a rather belligerent voice told me that if I wanted to find out what was going on, I should read the Jersey Journal. GET NJ info@getnj.com Fax: 201-798-2085 Voice Mail: 201-795-0909 P.O. Box 3362 Jersey City, NJ 07303 : Talk about a dumping ground for Cunningham / UTN propaganda ! : Oy vey !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 936 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 14:30:44 Subject: HUDSON DIXIECRATS MENENDEZ, DORIA, KENNY, SMITH TRY TO DISENFRANCHISE JC'S WARD F, CUNNINGHAM Urban Times News By Steven Glazer, E-mail sglazer@urbantimesnews.com "Menendez considers himself the plantation Godfather of Ward F. . ." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Freedom from HCDO posted Message 937 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 19:25:38 Subject: Lets support Fraguela, Dinardo, Munoz Lets support Rafael Fraguela for Senate and Elise Dinardo and Jose Munoz for assembly on the 33rd distric. Lets end the despotic government of Kenny and his puppets from the HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gay support for HCDO posted Message 938 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 21:18:42 Subject: Re: HUDSON DIXIECRATS MENENDEZ, DORIA, KENNY, SMITH TRY TO DISENFRANCHISE JC'S WARD F, CUNNINGHAM They look so cute in the picture and I've seen them at the bathhouse they are simply wonderful. Even if they are corrupt they are the best examples of gay politicians in New Jersey. : Urban Times News : By Steven Glazer, E-mail sglazer@urbantimesnews.com : "Menendez considers himself the plantation Godfather of Ward F. . ." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nancy Gaynor posted Message 939 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 21:19:49 Subject: Chakotay = Jim Kennelly = DeGise S U C K UP Chakotay - AKA Jim Kennelly If Tom Degise ever stopped short - you would literally be up his a** - You Short little twirp - You are nothing more than a S U C K UP Judgement day is coming for You , Kenny & Menendez ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GLAZER GETS PAID TO POST ON GETNJ.COM posted Message 940 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 21:59:31 Subject: UTN =$HIT OKAY STEVIE COMING FROM YOU WE KNOW IT IS GOSPEL. UTN $HIT AT IT'S BEST.... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wooly Bully posted Message 941 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2003 at 23:24:25 Subject: As A Matter of Fact, and Oy Vey, : If you've got more pull with Mr. Kenelly, Ms. Roginsky, and Congressman Menendez's office than I do, you can suggest that they put GET NJ on their list for press releases, media alerts, and announcements. : I e-mailed Mr. Kennelly and I phoned Ms. Roginsky (and left messages three times) requesting that that they let GET NJ know whatever it is that they think the rest of the world needs to know. Resounding silence was the result. : I called Congressmand Menendez's office twice. The first time they took a message, but I never heard back from them. On the second occasion, a rather belligerent voice told me that if I wanted to find out what was going on, I should read the Jersey Journal. : GET NJ : info@getnj.com : Fax: 201-798-2085 : Voice Mail: 201-795-0909 : P.O. Box 3362 : Jersey City, NJ 07303 : : Talk about a dumping ground for Cunningham / UTN propaganda ! : : Oy vey !!! That would be Organized Crime's very own Mariano "Oye" Vega, would it not? And no, Jim, this is not a UTN Cunningham propaganda dumping ground, but all the same you are not welcome here. Don't come back, running dog lackey! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Petition Signers posted Message 942 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 06:23:57 Subject: Petition to Recall Menendez A mere 25% gets the corruption out. Secret petition being selectively passed around. Please notify this message when you have signed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ace of Spades posted Message 943 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 06:57:30 Subject: Congressman Cunningham Oh boy the Black Caucus and Jesse Jackson are coming to Jersey City. A new day is rising for Jersey City when we have Glenn as our Congressman! Recall and defeat Bob Menendez the crook. Time for a new Congrssman and voice FOR HUDSON COUNTY!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** WNY School Teacher posted Message 944 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 07:05:19 Subject: Mr Turner Playing both sides Mr Richard Turner: Glenn says thanks for the advice and the warm regards and he will keep in touch. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 945 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 09:46:42 Subject: Re: IS THIS THE STEVE GLAZER / UTN FORUM ? Also, I phoned and left a message for Tony Bawidaman; the call was not returned. I walked over to the HCDO Hq. (on that side street a couple of blocks from 595 Newark Ave.). I dropped off GET NJ fliers there. I spoke with a woman (I forgot to ask her name). I explained that the goal was fair and balanced coverage. I requested any and all public information. I invited their posts. : If you've got more pull with Mr. Kenelly, Ms. Roginsky, and Congressman Menendez's office than I do, you can suggest that they put GET NJ on their list for press releases, media alerts, and announcements. : I e-mailed Mr. Kennelly and I phoned Ms. Roginsky (and left messages three times) requesting that that they let GET NJ know whatever it is that they think the rest of the world needs to know. Resounding silence was the result. : I called Congressman Menendez's office twice. The first time they took a message, but I never heard back from them. On the second occasion, a rather belligerent voice told me that if I wanted to find out what was going on, I should read the Jersey Journal. : GET NJ : info@getnj.com : Fax: 201-798-2085 : Voice Mail: 201-795-0909 : P.O. Box 3362 : Jersey City, NJ 07303 : : Talk about a dumping ground for Cunningham / UTN propaganda ! : : Oy vey !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Curious posted Message 946 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 10:03:13 Subject: Is there a video of entire rally? Just wanted to know if there was a video clip of entire rally and if that could be posted. Thanks ***************** End Of Article ****************** The real story you will never see in the UTN posted Message 947 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 10:28:47 Subject: This is great. The real facts in my lilittle town. It's a corny old joke: How do you know BOBBY JACKSON isn't telling the truth? His lips are moving. The sad thing is it's true. Jackson has been a controversial and often disruptive fixture in Jersey City politics for years. He has served as City Council President and as the city's Democratic Municipal Chairman. In a county where people take their politics seriously, few personalities seem to generate as much intensity as discussion of Jackson. Hudson County political observers from the two major factions of the Democratic Party say that Jackson is the one who has created a civil war-like atmosphere in Jersey City. Jackson, many say, is among the most responsible for driving a wedge between Jersey City Mayor GLENN CUNNINGHAM and the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Jackson seems to have a sort-of svengali effect on the Mayor, who is taking heat for the quality of the company he has chosen to keep. Jackson's latest scam is the Urban Times News, a pseudo-weekly Jersey City-based newspaper that appears to be nothing more than a communications product for the Cunningham administration. The editor is Bobby Jackson partners with Joe Cardwell, a Cunningham advisor and Chief of Staff to former Hudson County Executive BERNARD HARTNETT, and the name of Deputy Mayor EUGENE DRAYTON had appeared on the masthead until Jersey Journal political reporter PETER WEISS wrote a story about it. Local political players say that the Urban Times News receives advertising monies from the Jersey City municipal government. The Cardwell publication has an extreme pro-Cunningham bent, and has vilified many Cunningham foes. The favorable treatment Jackson has received appears to have resulted in some lucrative advertising deals. Among the Urban Times News' advertisers are the Jersey City Incinerator Authority, the Jersey City Department of Public Works, the Jersey City Public Library, the Jersey City Housing Authority, the Jersey City Development Corporation, and the Jersey City Economic Development Corporation. Lately, the newspaper has been throwing some fairly astonishing punches at L. HARVEY SMITH, the City Council President who is challenging Cunningham in the Democratic primary for State Senator in the 31st district. Smith has led the fight to ban the city from using municipal revenues to advertise in this publication: the Jersey Journal estimated recently that the city spent about $71,000 on Urban Times News advertising in 2002. The Jersey City Board of Education has already pulled their advertising from the paper, and Smith has pushed the autonomous Office of Employment and Training away from advertising as well. For a brief time, the Urban Times News used the logo of the New Jersey Press Association on its masthead, even though it was not a member. This logo was pulled after the association's attorneys contacted the newspaper. One Jersey City resident recently asked the U.S. Attorney to investigate the use of tax dollars spent on Jackson's publication, alleging that the address listed for the Urban Times News on its masthead, 529 Bergen Avenue in Jersey City, is actually a grocery store that accepts mail on their behalf. A recent Cunningham campaign mailing used 529 Bergen Avenue as a return address. The General Manager of the newspaper is MARTIN JACKSON, the son of Bobby Jackson. Martin Jackson's day job is as a staffer to Cunningham, where he runs websites for the city. The domain name urbantimesnews.com is registered to Martin Jackson at the Miller Branch of the Jersey City Public Library. ALEXANDER BOOTH, the Jersey City Corporation Counsel that Cunningham wants to fire, alleged that Jackson sought support for a illegal no-bid contract for purchasing eighty photocopiers for the city from a campaign donor. "Based upon my own observations, I had concluded that the mayor's closest advisers were using their relationship with him solely for the purpose of personal financial gain," Booth states in the court documents. "I believe this was putting the reputation and viability of the administration in jeopardy." Jackson has denied Booth's charges. Jackson sought to secure a piece of the Journal Square development project several years ago. He and Cardwell wanted $130,000 contract to create and operate a minority contracting oversight system for the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency. After Governor JAMES E. MCGREEVEY took office in 2002, Jackson unsuccessfully sought party support for an appointment to the state Athletic Control Board. Some Democrats allege that under Jackson's stewardship, the Jersey City Democratic Committee, did not file any campaign finance reports with the New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission from January, 2002 through June, 2002, when he was replaced as chairman. Despite not filing any ELEC reports, Jackson and Cunningham continued to raise and expend during that time -- and there have been reports that some of those checks subsequently bounced. Jackson also heads the "Reform Democratic Organization," which never registered or filed with ELEC, but which took out paid advertisements in newspapers and which served as the banner under which Cunningham's county executive nominee ran during the 2002 primary. Jackson's closest political ally is GERALD MCCANN, a former Mayor of Jersey City who was removed from office following a federal criminal conviction in 1992. McCann, now out of prison, has re-emerged on the political scene as a member of Cunningham's inner circle. When McCann served as Hudson County Democratic Chairman more than a decade ago, Jackson, the Jersey City Democratic leader, was his local political lieutenant. Jackson returned as party chairman after Cunningham won in 2001, but was unseated a year later when their candidate for County Executive, Hartnett, got swamped by the organization candidate, former Jersey City Council President and Cunningham mayoral rival THOMAS DEGISE. He was replaced by City Councilman WILLIAM GAUGHAN, who is now the Chief of Staff to DeGise. Jackson didn't even show up for the vote, after losing a large number of County Committee seats in the election. During the 1985 general election, when Republican Governor THOMAS KEAN carried Jersey City, there were allegations that Jackson and McCann worked to suppress voter turnout among African Americans. He also has ties to former Hudson County Executive ROBERT JANISZEWSI, who abruptly resigned his office in mid-2001 and later admitted to taking over $100,000 in bribes during his thirteen years in office; Janiszewski, cooperating with federal prosecutors as he awaits sentencing, is reportedly in a witness protection program. But Jackson wasn't always a Cunningham fan: just before the 1989 mayoral runoff, when Cunningham and McCann were rivals, Jackson told the Jersey Journal that Cunningham is "basically the way he started. He's still very insecure, petty and childish." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Feuilles posted Message 948 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 10:34:48 Subject: "The Red Card" Glenn's Red Card In basketball it is called a technical foul. In baseball, it's the umpire giving one the heave-ho. Football has personal fouls. And in soccer, it's the red card. When a player on the field causes such disruption as to cause the referee to stop play and cause the player to be removed from the game. It's the ultimate penalty – its when the referee says to a player no more. It comes after such a foul that could cause the game itself to be fundamentally changed. For Jersey City Mayor GLENN CUNNINGHAM, some state Democratic leaders are saying, it may be time for the red card. Cunningham, who became Jersey City's first African American Mayor two years ago, has become one of the most mercurial leaders in the state. In the short period of two years, he has alienated the very political allies that put him into office, engaged in a petty fight with the local Congressman, angered local and state Democrats, and has fought with pretty much everybody on the other side of Newark Bay. Cunningham even compared Menendez to a "political terrorist" in the immediate aftermath of September 11th, where residents of Cunningham's city were killed. Many political observers thought that Cunningham was making dumb, but rookie, mistakes. Many political observers saw Cunningham's actions as the sign of a one term mayor. But this June, Cunningham seemed to gain the upper hand. After a very hard fought campaign, Cunningham, was nominated for the State Senate, defeating party endorsed candidate and Jersey City Council President L. HARVEY SMITH by an eight point margin. The margin helped defeat long time Assemblyman JOSEPH DORIA and Assemblywoman ELBA PEREZ-CINCIARELLI by Bayonne Councilman ANTHONY CHIAPPONE and former Hudson County Freeholder LOUIS MANZO. The sweep seemed complete as Cunningham emerged with one of the most powerful tools in New Jersey politics – senatorial courtesy. But Cunningham appears completely unable to be a good winner. In fact, since the June primary, Cunningham may well be on his way to Worst Winner of the Year. Since the primary, Cunningham has taunted Gov. JAMES E. MCGREEVEY, challenged State Democratic Chairwoman BONNIE WATSON COLEMAN (whom he called "Aunt Bonnie," -- a term offensive to African Americans), attacked fellow Hudson County Democrats, and raised the specter of the Ku Klux Klan. The HCDO filed suit last week, alleging that Cunningham's team was aided by contributions from several political action committees that far exceeded the $36,000 limit prescribed by law. The county party also submitted what they claim is evidence gleaned from an extensive review of voting records that shows illegal voter participation in the primary that might have altered the results of each race. The HCDO has said its goal is to overturn the results of the primary. Under such a scenario, the party's county committee would then pick new candidates. Two Hudson Democratic sources says that the organization is confident enough in their ability to deliver margins in other parts of the county that they are willing to publicly reveal longtime tactics used to manipulate votes in Jersey City. If that's accurate, it ought to be quite a show. It is Cunningham's recent actions that have political insiders wondering about his own stability. In recent days, Cunningham supporters have attacked State Senator BERNARD KENNY, the Hudson County Democratic Chairman, by invoking a 40-year-old issue regarding Kenny's late father in an effort to damage his reputation. Then Cunningham accused Congressman ROBERT MENENDEZ, of being a racist and said that the actions of the Hudson Democrats were little different than those of the Klan. That's a tough sell, even in the rough-and-tumble of Hudson County politics. Cunningham's attempt to play the race card against the organization has little credibility. The HCDO helped Charles become the first African American State Senator from Hudson County, backed the late JANET HAYNES for County Clerk, and Cunningham himself was the beneficiary of organization support in the 2001 mayoral race. If anything, the June primary was a net loss for minorities: Perez-Cinciarelli, an Hispanic woman, will be replaced in the State Assembly by a white male. Finally, on Tuesday evening, Cunningham led a demonstration at Menendez' office and again saying that Menendez was insufficiently understanding of black voters. Menendez fired back immediately saying that Cunningham's actions were way outside the mainstream of politics. Cunningham's Assembly running mate, Manzo, says he might challenge Menendez next year for Congress. A number of Statehouse observers are stunned by Cunningham's actions. After winning the Senate nomination, Cunningham seemed to have the potential of enormous political strength. But not less than two months later, Cunningham seems to have backed himself into a corner by challenging Menendez, the member of Congress with one of the single largest campaign war chests in the country -- nearly $3 million. Cunningham was in the position to demand peace in Hudson County; now he has seemingly crossed the Rubicon, there can no peace between Menendez and Cunningham. Caught in the middle are state Democrat leaders. For McGreevey, he is loathe to cross the powerful Menendez, whose political reach extends outside the borders of his four-county congressional district -- despite some very public feuding in recent months. In addition, Watson Coleman is said to be gravely concerned about Cunningham's rather public flirtation with Republican Senate Co-President JOHN BENNETT, including a very well noticed lunch last week in Jersey City. And Cunningham has forged a strong political alliance with former Newark mayoral candidate CORY BOOKER, whose law firm gets considerable Jersey City work -- Cunningham is expected to attend a fundraiser for Booker's 2006 campaign for Mayor at the Ridgewood home of attorney VICTOR HERLINKSY. This won't help Cunningham get along with another big city Mayor/State Senator: Booker foe SHARPE JAMES. The Mayor of Jersey City seems to be doing everything he can to preclude peace. By attacking Kenny's family, calling Menendez a racist and a terrorist, and by dancing with the Republicans, Cunningham seems to be insisting on a total victory, defined presumably by the removal of Menendez from Congress. An highly unlikely event. Cunningham may well end up winning some political battles, but many New Jersey political observers are feeling that he is not playing well with others and needs a red card. ***************** End Of Article ****************** City worker who did not want to be there! posted Message 949 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 10:39:13 Subject: I was forced to go. The rally 200 attended....out of the 200, 160 were city workers. The notices to attend were put in with their paycheks. The Dept. of Labor was sent this and is looking into these strong arm tatics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 950 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 10:52:35 Subject: Re: Is there a video of entire rally? If you want to pay to sponsor this, let me know. : Just wanted to know if there was a video clip of entire rally and if that could be posted. : Thanks ***************** End Of Article ****************** words to live by. posted Message 951 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 11:03:27 Subject: Re: I was forced to go. Many people were told to go to the Rally that was held in front of the Office of Congressman Menendez. It is a shame that you had to be forced. I would advise you not to speak to many people about this if you want to keep your job. I would not trust the Labor Dept. I would go right to the US AG. So you stay protected....good luck. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WOOLLY BULLY posted Message 952 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 11:04:20 Subject: Re: Mr Turner Playing both sides HI GLAZER! ***************** End Of Article ****************** WOOLLY BULLY posted Message 953 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 11:05:12 Subject: Re: Congressman Cunningham GLAZER AGAIN..... ***************** End Of Article ****************** WOOLLY BULLY posted Message 954 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 11:05:59 Subject: Re: Petition to Recall Menendez AND GLAZER ONE MORE TIME. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 955 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 11:09:01 Subject: BOOTH TELLS COUNCIL HE’S OUT Steven Glazer, email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com Booth… “Not walking away for nothing…” ***************** End Of Article ****************** WOOLLY BULLY posted Message 956 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 11:19:49 Subject: Re: BOOTH TELLS COUNCIL HE’S OUT YES AND COMING FROM THE UTN WE KNOW THE STORY IS AS ALL OF THEM ARE----- ONE SIDED! ***************** End Of Article ****************** WOOLLY BULLY posted Message 957 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 11:26:54 Subject: Re: BOOTH TELLS COUNCIL HE’S OUT AND REMEMBER JAY BOOTH, MARK MUNLEY AND GERALD McCANN DRAYTON,CARDWELL, AND JACKSON ALL CAME TO BRING GLEN CUNNINGHAM TO OFFICE...YOU ARE WHAT YOU HANG WITH CUNNINGHAM...THE MAN WITH THE STAR MY A$$> MORE LIKE THE MAN WITH THE CROOKS... and their boy toy GLAZER! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now in the hands of the big boys not the HCPO. posted Message 958 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 11:35:49 Subject: The concert scam! By Jason Fink Journal staff writer A controversial concert scheduled for the Loew's Jersey Theater that was to have been co-sponsored by the autonomous Jersey City Employment and Training Program and the city was abruptly canceled yesterday after officials said they were worried that violence would break out. The show, which had drawn the ire of Councilman Steve Lipski of Journal Square and several residents of the area, was billed as a recruitment drive for the federally funded Employment and Training Program, and was to have been headlined by rap performer Fat Joe and the Terror Squad and R&B singer Amerie. A spokesman for Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, who last month sent a letter to the theater manager endorsing the concert and asking that the fees for using the city-owned venue be waived, said yesterday that the city had "intelligence" that two groups of youths involved in a skirmish on Forrest Street Sunday planned to continue fighting at the concert. "They had mentioned the concert, and there was a belief that this would be continued" at the show, said the spokesman, Stan H. Eason. "This one group said something to the effect that they could meet up (at the concert)." At least seven calls were made to the police Sunday afternoon complaining of street fights among large groups, as well as public drinking, on Forrest between Ocean Avenue and Martin Luther King Drive, near where the Martin Luther King Parade was held. No arrests were made in the Forrest Street incidents. "We learned of altercations . along the Martin Luther King Day parade route," said the Rev. Edward Allen, who was to be the concert's promoter. "If what happened Sunday repeats itself, that could be a situation that none of us wants." Allen, a board member of the Hudson County Schools of Technology, does not work for the Employment and Training Program, but his production company, Liberty City, was to put on the show. At a community meeting held last week by Lipski, Allen defended the decision to hold the show at the Loew's, which many of those in attendance opposed because of security concerns. Lipski and several area residents objected to the fact that the concert was to be open only to out-of-school youths between the ages of 16 and 21 and objected to some of the lyrics of Fat Joe songs, which they said are laced with profanities and references to violence. Yesterday, Allen said the decision to cancel the concert, which he said was made by him and Employment and Training Executive Director Edward Santiago, was based entirely on Sunday's events and not on any of the concerns expressed last week. Santiago could not be reached for comment yesterday. The Employment and Training Program, which had committed around $50,000 to putting on the show, has already spent nearly $20,000 on two $7,500 non-refundable payments to the headlining acts and on advertising costs, according to Allen, who said his company would not have made a profit from the show. The Employment and Training Program is funded by the federal Department of Labor and runs programs to help out-of-work youths earn degrees and receive job training. The agency and the mayor had touted the concert as an opportunity to recruit teenagers and young adults into the program. Free tickets were obtained by filling out forms with a name, address and Social Security number. In addition to the concerns about security, some of those who fought to keep the show from taking place had argued that public money earmarked to help the unemployed should not be used to put on a concert. "I'd prefer to see the money used for summer jobs," Council President L. Harvey Smith said last week, before the show was canceled. The Employment and Training Program earlier this year sent $126,000 to two board of education programs for at-risk youth, nearly $60,000 of which was used to buy tickets to a Patti LaBelle concert at the same theater. Asked about both cases, a spokesman for the state Department of Labor, which disburses the federal grants that the agency received, said the department was looking into the matter. The spokesman, Peter Saharko, said there was no guideline specifically prohibiting money from being spent on a concert but the department's standards dictate that funds be spent only on expenditures that "constitute a necessary and reasonable cost." In his April 14 letter to the president of the Friends of the Loew's Theater, which operates the historic venue, Cunningham said the show had his "full support." "The purpose of this event is to bring several notable musical artists to entertain out-of-school youth so (Employment and Training) can recruit them for the many worthwhile projects it has to offer." Allen said Employment and Training had signed up about 800 youths who had planned to attend the concert. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THIS IS TYPICAL OF THE UTN posted Message 959 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 11:41:18 Subject: Re: HUDSON DIXIECRATS MENENDEZ, DORIA, KENNY, SMITH TRY TO DISENFRANCHISE JC'S WARD F, CUNNINGHAM Top News Flier 'reports' Smith clash exactly wrong in effort to mislead Wednesday, June 04, 2003 By Martin Espinoza Journal staff writer Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. But yesterday, a bit of nasty Election Day fiction was distributed in Jersey City and Bayonne because the truth was apparently just too tame. According to a flier that was made to look like a Jersey Journal news item, Jersey City Council President and state Senate hopeful L. Harvey Smith "was convicted of aggravated assault on the manager of a public housing complex and sentenced to 90 days incarceration." But the phony flier was lying. Smith was never convicted of such an attack and, in fact, the dispute that provided the seed for the dirty trick ended with Smith and the housing manager shaking hands. The flier, which was dated "June 2, 2003" and carried The Jersey Journal nameplate without authorization, misrepresented the facts of a court case detailed in a May 9 Journal article about Smith and Darrell Laval, the manager of the Booker T. Washington housing complex. Laval had accused Smith of shoving and cursing at him April 23 when Smith was campaigning at the complex. Smith denied there had been any physical contact and filed a harassment complaint against Laval on April 24. In turn, Laval filed a formal complaint against Smith. Both and Smith and Laval withdrew their complaints when they appeared before Municipal Court Chief Judge Cynthia Jackson on May 8. Before walking into Jackson's courtroom, Smith and Laval shook hands and spoke privately for a few moments. The unknown writers of the deceitful flier further invented the outcome of the case to say the sentence for the veteran educator and councilman "was suspended so Smith will not be locked up, but he must perform 300 hours of community service." Smith was running against Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham and Bayonne attorney Vincent Militello in yesterday's 31st District Democratic primary. Smith called the flier "a desperate move" on the part of Cunningham supporters "who don't have any real issues to talk about. They're playing the community as ignorant." Stan Eason, Cunningham's spokesman, said neither Cunningham nor any of the other candidates on his slate was responsible for the flier. Martin Espinoza can be reached at mespinoz@jjournal.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 960 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 11:49:49 Subject: BERNIE KENNY SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT AND UTN APOLOGIZES Urban Times News By Steven Glazer, email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** End The Corruption posted Message 961 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 12:21:19 Subject: The Corrupt Kennys = Like Father - Like Son Bernie Kenny will follow his father's footsteps. Hopefully the US Attorney will expose this career criminal who inherited the family trait of ripping off the taxpayer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE DONALD drivels posted Message 962 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 12:53:36 Subject: "The Red Card" COME ON NOW DONALD You can do better than this RED CARD drivel. BTW -- YOU NEGLECT TO MENTION what effect the GRAND JURY will have on YOU AND MENENDEZ'S FUTURE !!!!!!!! That will result in more than just a "time out" - More like the GAME IS OVER !!!! GOD BLESS THE US ATTORNEY ! Glenn's Red Card : In basketball it is called a technical foul. In baseball, it's the umpire giving one the heave-ho. Football has personal fouls. And in soccer, it's the red card. When a player on the field causes such disruption as to cause the referee to stop play and cause the player to be removed from the game. It's the ultimate penalty – its when the referee says to a player no more. It comes after such a foul that could cause the game itself to be fundamentally changed. : For Jersey City Mayor GLENN CUNNINGHAM, some state Democratic leaders are saying, it may be time for the red card. : Cunningham, who became Jersey City's first African American Mayor two years ago, has become one of the most mercurial leaders in the state. In the short period of two years, he has alienated the very political allies that put him into office, engaged in a petty fight with the local Congressman, angered local and state Democrats, and has fought with pretty much everybody on the other side of Newark Bay. Cunningham even compared Menendez to a "political terrorist" in the immediate aftermath of September 11th, where residents of Cunningham's city were killed. Many political observers thought that Cunningham was making dumb, but rookie, mistakes. : Many political observers saw Cunningham's actions as the sign of a one term mayor. : But this June, Cunningham seemed to gain the upper hand. After a very hard fought campaign, Cunningham, was nominated for the State Senate, defeating party endorsed candidate and Jersey City Council President L. HARVEY SMITH by an eight point margin. The margin helped defeat long time Assemblyman JOSEPH DORIA and Assemblywoman ELBA PEREZ-CINCIARELLI by Bayonne Councilman ANTHONY CHIAPPONE and former Hudson County Freeholder LOUIS MANZO. The sweep seemed complete as Cunningham emerged with one of the most powerful tools in New Jersey politics – senatorial courtesy. : But Cunningham appears completely unable to be a good winner. In fact, since the June primary, Cunningham may well be on his way to Worst Winner of the Year. Since the primary, Cunningham has taunted Gov. JAMES E. MCGREEVEY, challenged State Democratic Chairwoman BONNIE WATSON COLEMAN (whom he called "Aunt Bonnie," -- a term offensive to African Americans), attacked fellow Hudson County Democrats, and raised the specter of the Ku Klux Klan. : : The HCDO filed suit last week, alleging that Cunningham's team was aided by contributions from several political action committees that far exceeded the $36,000 limit prescribed by law. The county party also submitted what they claim is evidence gleaned from an extensive review of voting records that shows illegal voter participation in the primary that might have altered the results of each race. The HCDO has said its goal is to overturn the results of the primary. Under such a scenario, the party's county committee would then pick new candidates. : : Two Hudson Democratic sources says that the organization is confident enough in their ability to deliver margins in other parts of the county that they are willing to publicly reveal longtime tactics used to manipulate votes in Jersey City. If that's accurate, it ought to be quite a show. : : It is Cunningham's recent actions that have political insiders wondering about his own stability. In recent days, Cunningham supporters have attacked State Senator BERNARD KENNY, the Hudson County Democratic Chairman, by invoking a 40-year-old issue regarding Kenny's late father in an effort to damage his reputation. Then Cunningham accused Congressman ROBERT MENENDEZ, of being a racist and said that the actions of the Hudson Democrats were little different than those of the Klan. That's a tough sell, even in the rough-and-tumble of Hudson County politics. : : Cunningham's attempt to play the race card against the organization has little credibility. The HCDO helped Charles become the first African American State Senator from Hudson County, backed the late JANET HAYNES for County Clerk, and Cunningham himself was the beneficiary of organization support in the 2001 mayoral race. If anything, the June primary was a net loss for minorities: Perez-Cinciarelli, an Hispanic woman, will be replaced in the State Assembly by a white male. : Finally, on Tuesday evening, Cunningham led a demonstration at Menendez' office and again saying that Menendez was insufficiently understanding of black voters. Menendez fired back immediately saying that Cunningham's actions were way outside the mainstream of politics. Cunningham's Assembly running mate, Manzo, says he might challenge Menendez next year for Congress. : A number of Statehouse observers are stunned by Cunningham's actions. After winning the Senate nomination, Cunningham seemed to have the potential of enormous political strength. But not less than two months later, Cunningham seems to have backed himself into a corner by challenging Menendez, the member of Congress with one of the single largest campaign war chests in the country -- nearly $3 million. Cunningham was in the position to demand peace in Hudson County; now he has seemingly crossed the Rubicon, there can no peace between Menendez and Cunningham. : Caught in the middle are state Democrat leaders. For McGreevey, he is loathe to cross the powerful Menendez, whose political reach extends outside the borders of his four-county congressional district -- despite some very public feuding in recent months. In addition, Watson Coleman is said to be gravely concerned about Cunningham's rather public flirtation with Republican Senate Co-President JOHN BENNETT, including a very well noticed lunch last week in Jersey City. And Cunningham has forged a strong political alliance with former Newark mayoral candidate CORY BOOKER, whose law firm gets considerable Jersey City work -- Cunningham is expected to attend a fundraiser for Booker's 2006 campaign for Mayor at the Ridgewood home of attorney VICTOR HERLINKSY. This won't help Cunningham get along with another big city Mayor/State Senator: Booker foe SHARPE JAMES. : The Mayor of Jersey City seems to be doing everything he can to preclude peace. By attacking Kenny's family, calling Menendez a racist and a terrorist, and by dancing with the Republicans, Cunningham seems to be insisting on a total victory, defined presumably by the removal of Menendez from Congress. An highly unlikely event. : Cunningham may well end up winning some political battles, but many New Jersey political observers are feeling that he is not playing well with others and needs a red card. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE DONALD drivels posted Message 963 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 12:53:36 Subject: "The Red Card" COME ON NOW DONALD You can do better than this RED CARD drivel. BTW -- YOU NEGLECT TO MENTION what effect the GRAND JURY will have on YOU AND MENENDEZ'S FUTURE !!!!!!!! That will result in more than just a "time out" - More like the GAME IS OVER !!!! GOD BLESS THE US ATTORNEY ! Glenn's Red Card : In basketball it is called a technical foul. In baseball, it's the umpire giving one the heave-ho. Football has personal fouls. And in soccer, it's the red card. When a player on the field causes such disruption as to cause the referee to stop play and cause the player to be removed from the game. It's the ultimate penalty – its when the referee says to a player no more. It comes after such a foul that could cause the game itself to be fundamentally changed. : For Jersey City Mayor GLENN CUNNINGHAM, some state Democratic leaders are saying, it may be time for the red card. : Cunningham, who became Jersey City's first African American Mayor two years ago, has become one of the most mercurial leaders in the state. In the short period of two years, he has alienated the very political allies that put him into office, engaged in a petty fight with the local Congressman, angered local and state Democrats, and has fought with pretty much everybody on the other side of Newark Bay. Cunningham even compared Menendez to a "political terrorist" in the immediate aftermath of September 11th, where residents of Cunningham's city were killed. Many political observers thought that Cunningham was making dumb, but rookie, mistakes. : Many political observers saw Cunningham's actions as the sign of a one term mayor. : But this June, Cunningham seemed to gain the upper hand. After a very hard fought campaign, Cunningham, was nominated for the State Senate, defeating party endorsed candidate and Jersey City Council President L. HARVEY SMITH by an eight point margin. The margin helped defeat long time Assemblyman JOSEPH DORIA and Assemblywoman ELBA PEREZ-CINCIARELLI by Bayonne Councilman ANTHONY CHIAPPONE and former Hudson County Freeholder LOUIS MANZO. The sweep seemed complete as Cunningham emerged with one of the most powerful tools in New Jersey politics – senatorial courtesy. : But Cunningham appears completely unable to be a good winner. In fact, since the June primary, Cunningham may well be on his way to Worst Winner of the Year. Since the primary, Cunningham has taunted Gov. JAMES E. MCGREEVEY, challenged State Democratic Chairwoman BONNIE WATSON COLEMAN (whom he called "Aunt Bonnie," -- a term offensive to African Americans), attacked fellow Hudson County Democrats, and raised the specter of the Ku Klux Klan. : : The HCDO filed suit last week, alleging that Cunningham's team was aided by contributions from several political action committees that far exceeded the $36,000 limit prescribed by law. The county party also submitted what they claim is evidence gleaned from an extensive review of voting records that shows illegal voter participation in the primary that might have altered the results of each race. The HCDO has said its goal is to overturn the results of the primary. Under such a scenario, the party's county committee would then pick new candidates. : : Two Hudson Democratic sources says that the organization is confident enough in their ability to deliver margins in other parts of the county that they are willing to publicly reveal longtime tactics used to manipulate votes in Jersey City. If that's accurate, it ought to be quite a show. : : It is Cunningham's recent actions that have political insiders wondering about his own stability. In recent days, Cunningham supporters have attacked State Senator BERNARD KENNY, the Hudson County Democratic Chairman, by invoking a 40-year-old issue regarding Kenny's late father in an effort to damage his reputation. Then Cunningham accused Congressman ROBERT MENENDEZ, of being a racist and said that the actions of the Hudson Democrats were little different than those of the Klan. That's a tough sell, even in the rough-and-tumble of Hudson County politics. : : Cunningham's attempt to play the race card against the organization has little credibility. The HCDO helped Charles become the first African American State Senator from Hudson County, backed the late JANET HAYNES for County Clerk, and Cunningham himself was the beneficiary of organization support in the 2001 mayoral race. If anything, the June primary was a net loss for minorities: Perez-Cinciarelli, an Hispanic woman, will be replaced in the State Assembly by a white male. : Finally, on Tuesday evening, Cunningham led a demonstration at Menendez' office and again saying that Menendez was insufficiently understanding of black voters. Menendez fired back immediately saying that Cunningham's actions were way outside the mainstream of politics. Cunningham's Assembly running mate, Manzo, says he might challenge Menendez next year for Congress. : A number of Statehouse observers are stunned by Cunningham's actions. After winning the Senate nomination, Cunningham seemed to have the potential of enormous political strength. But not less than two months later, Cunningham seems to have backed himself into a corner by challenging Menendez, the member of Congress with one of the single largest campaign war chests in the country -- nearly $3 million. Cunningham was in the position to demand peace in Hudson County; now he has seemingly crossed the Rubicon, there can no peace between Menendez and Cunningham. : Caught in the middle are state Democrat leaders. For McGreevey, he is loathe to cross the powerful Menendez, whose political reach extends outside the borders of his four-county congressional district -- despite some very public feuding in recent months. In addition, Watson Coleman is said to be gravely concerned about Cunningham's rather public flirtation with Republican Senate Co-President JOHN BENNETT, including a very well noticed lunch last week in Jersey City. And Cunningham has forged a strong political alliance with former Newark mayoral candidate CORY BOOKER, whose law firm gets considerable Jersey City work -- Cunningham is expected to attend a fundraiser for Booker's 2006 campaign for Mayor at the Ridgewood home of attorney VICTOR HERLINKSY. This won't help Cunningham get along with another big city Mayor/State Senator: Booker foe SHARPE JAMES. : The Mayor of Jersey City seems to be doing everything he can to preclude peace. By attacking Kenny's family, calling Menendez a racist and a terrorist, and by dancing with the Republicans, Cunningham seems to be insisting on a total victory, defined presumably by the removal of Menendez from Congress. An highly unlikely event. : Cunningham may well end up winning some political battles, but many New Jersey political observers are feeling that he is not playing well with others and needs a red card. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RATH OF GOD posted Message 964 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 13:41:21 Subject: THE HCDO SHOULD BE AWARE STRIPES MAKE YOU LOOK FAT AND SINCE YOU ARE ALREADY OVERWEIGHT AS IN FAT HEADS THE STRIPES OF PRISON WILL NOT BE SO ATTRACTIVE. IS IT POSSIBLE THE HCDO WANTS TO GO TO PRISON MAYBE THEIR TELLING US SOMETHING SOMETHING OF A CLOSET NATURE. THE VELVET MAFIA OF HUDSON COUNTY ALL THEY REALLY WANT IS TO COME OUT. SURRENDER TO WHO YOU ARE HCDO YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mojo posted Message 965 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 14:01:31 Subject: Re: THE HCDO SHOULD BE AWARE This is why the UTN are such idiots.Get a life Glazer and join AA ***************** End Of Article ****************** Drackett posted Message 966 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 14:37:25 Subject: The things the UTN will never admitt or print. Isn't it ironic that the UTN has select reporting...Still no answer on the Concert Scam...nothing about Janet Haynes.Nothing about the flyers you know who put on the cars election eve, the story poking fun of the death of Harvey Smith's son nothing., Just the same old bull$hit day after day after day....it's getting old Jackson! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Do what you can posted Message 967 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 14:41:49 Subject: Please elaborate. "County government has a cloud hanging over it," DeGise said. "And you know what? We're not finished. There are going to be some more bad headlines." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jailhouserock posted Message 968 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 15:48:37 Subject: No subject Now, now, children I am feeling that there is a bit of tension out here. Let us all go to our happy place or you will all have to stand in the corner........good boys and girls! Would you like milk and cookies for snack time? ***************** End Of Article ****************** TURN YOUR SELF IN FOR A LOWER SENTENCE posted Message 969 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 17:52:52 Subject: RED CARDER TURN YOURSELF IN FOR A LOWER SENTENCE AS IF THOSE THAT STEAL AND MURDER CAN SPEAK ABOUT MORALS AND DOING THE RIGHT THING. THE HCDO, MONKEY MAN MENENDEZ, AND THE DONALD WILL ALL BE IN JAIL NEXT TO MCGRAFTY THE GOVENOR. THE FEDS HAVE THE GOODS ON ALL OF THEM AND THEY HOLD THE CARDS. POLITICALLY GLENN CUNNINGHAM IS THE ONLY ONE IN NORTHERN NEW JERSEY THAT WILL NOT GO TO JAIL. RED CARD REALLY. HOW MANY MILLIONS HAVE YOU STOLEN? HOW MANY PEOPLES LIVES HAVE YOU DESTROYED BY ROBBING THEIR FUTURE? HOW LONG MUST WE THE HONEST PEOPLE OF JERSEY CITY HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOUR LIES. STOP AN THINK IF YOU TURN YOUR SELF IN THEY MAY GIVE YOU A LOWER SENTENCE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** What ever you say Glazer posted Message 970 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 17:56:25 Subject: Re: RED CARDER TURN YOURSELF IN FOR A LOWER SENTENCE ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN People are Gods people posted Message 971 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 18:58:10 Subject: UTN has not killed or stolen anything UTN is a great paper and has exposed the crooks of the HCDO for what they are. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lucifer posted Message 972 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 19:57:56 Subject: Re: UTN has not killed or stolen anything Using G-D and UTN in the same sentance will make you go to he11 ***************** End Of Article ****************** RECALL posted Message 973 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2003 at 22:10:11 Subject: RECALL HCDO, MENENDEZ, AND MCGREEVEY IT HAS FINALLY COME TO AN END RECALL THE CROOKS BEFORE THE FEDS PLACE THEM IN JAIL. ACT SOON AND THE RECOVERY WILL HAPPEN THAT MUCH SOONER. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Heavens Gate Keeper posted Message 974 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2003 at 01:04:02 Subject: Re: BERNIE KENNY SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT AND UTN APOLOGIZES : Urban Times News : By Steven Glazer, email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com Bernie Kenny will NOT be allowed into heaven if he died this moment. I hope he turns from his evil and wicked ways. He has a appointment with the devil sad to say right now if he was to pass. At least he will be with his earthly father in a warm place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** REPLACE MENENDEZ posted Message 975 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2003 at 10:54:53 Subject: BRUCE WILLIS TO RUN FOR MENENDEZ CONGRESSIONAL SEAT BRUCE WILLIS WILL RUN THE RECALL MENENDEZ EFFORT AND RUN FOR HIS SEAT IN CONGRESS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MENENDEZ APPOINTED AS PRESIDENT OF KHARTOUM TRADE ASSOCIATION posted Message 976 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2003 at 11:14:06 Subject: SUDANESE ISLAMIC FACIST THANK YOU CONGRESSMAN MENENDEZ THE ISLAMIC FRONT OF SUDAN WOULD LIKE TO THANK CONGRESSMAN MENENDEZ FOR HIS CONTINUED SUPPORT IN THEIR EFFORT TO DESTROY THE UNITED STATES. IN ADDITION TO HAVING TRADE SANCTIONS LIFTED THE OFFSHORE BANKING FACILITIES WHERE OF GREAT HELP. AGAIN THANK YOU CONGRESSMAN MENENDEZ FOR HELPING THE ENEMIES OF THE UNITED STATES. ALSO BY THE WAY YOUR FRIEND AND OURS FIDEL SAYS HELLO WE REALLY LIKE THE BEACHES IN CUBA AND HOPE TO SEE NEXT MAY DAY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** We Need Love and Understanding posted Message 977 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2003 at 19:27:29 Subject: Love and Understanding for the HCDO Love and Understanding for the HCDO Love to see them leave and do not understand why they are not in jail. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Corruption County posted Message 978 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2003 at 19:32:34 Subject: Friday night in corruption county All the children are sleeping and the dinner dishes are done but deep in the cellars of secret meeting halls the HCDO counts the take billions upon billions stolen from the poor. Hospitals with lower standards than third world slaughter houses. There is no outrage all the people are happy about as happy as a North Korean orphan in a work camp. We as a nation die for freedom while corrupt politicians steal our birth right perhaps we need to fight for our freedom in Hudson County the land of shame. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mark posted Message 979 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2003 at 00:13:26 Subject: trafiCANT for president Found your message board while looking for info on a moron from New Jersey named Marcus Belk of Jersey City that is running a web site called traficant2004. He is raising money for convicted congressman James TrafiCANT for president in 2004. Any info on this moron would be appreciated. Reply with any court links to look up his background. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 980 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2003 at 17:46:54 Subject: News 12 Video: Doria Trashes the Urban Times News On the News 12 show, NJ Power and Politics, Bayonne Mayor Joe Doria speaks out against Urban Times News. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Poor Corrupt Politicians turn yourselves in for a lower sentence posted Message 981 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2003 at 21:25:18 Subject: Re: News 12 Video: Doria Trashes the Urban Times News Well there is a paper called the Urban Times News and they are honest, truthful and hate corrupt ploiticians that steal the future from the children of Hudson County, establish substandard healthcare facilities that murder people, and finally steal from municipal authorities they can. The outrage of the Hudson County electorate has been voiced by the Urban Times even though the lives of the staff and reporters have been threatened. So here is this group of HCDO gangsters that blame the problem on the one reporting it. God Bless the people of the Urban Times News and their bravery in the face of servious threats. FYI Doria loose a couple of pounds all this stress with the Fed wiring everybody will take its toll loose the pounds live longer and turn yourself in you will get a lower sentence. ***************** End Of Article ****************** joe boluci posted Message 982 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2003 at 21:26:10 Subject: Re: News 12 Video: Doria Trashes the Urban Times News Woao, Doria just help to advertise UTN more, now people are going to start looking for it. You never do that! Free advertisement for the opposition! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOWER SENTENCE OFFER WILL EXPIRE IF YOUR FREIND WEARS THE WIRE posted Message 983 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2003 at 21:30:28 Subject: OFFER EXPIRES IS A FRIEND WEARS THE WIRE GET A LOWER SENTENCE AND LET YOUR BUDDIES AT THE HCDO DO THE TIME MAYBE EVEN FEDERAL WITNESS PROTECTION WHO KNOWS. REALITY GAME OF THE WEEK GUESS WHO IS WEARING THE WIRE. THE GREAT STING GAME IS ON AND THOSE THAT FAIL TO JOIN EARLY ENOUGH ARE THOSE THAT GET A RECORDING CONTRACT A HIT SINGLE FOR THE GRAND JURY. WIRE WIRE WHOS GOT THE WIRE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** STEVIES MOMMY posted Message 984 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2003 at 21:40:40 Subject: GLAZER YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE! NEXT YOU WILL BLAME THEM FOR YOU BEING SHORT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blame for being short posted Message 985 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2003 at 22:22:58 Subject: Steve's mother Well now that you mention it they are rather short short on virtue and moral values. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN HAS NO MORALS OR VALUES posted Message 986 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 00:00:30 Subject: Re: Steve's mother Yes my son this is true, the people you work for: Bobby Joe Gene are short on morals and values. You will always be their tool. That is all you are a short little troll of Bobby Jackson. He makes you believe that you are taking down the bad ones keeping you so busy that you can't see that they are the bad ones. Stealing lying they will have it all and when they are done your a$$ is kicked to the curb. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The people can stand no more corruption from the HCDO posted Message 987 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 07:19:52 Subject: Re: Steve's mother Well UTN has served its purpose to raise the level of discussion to one of building not stealing a uniter not a divider. The HCDO is racist the only thing missing is the white sheet. Bribes, kickbacks, and corruption can hardly be denied all that is missing is the jail for the HCDO. Thank God for the Feds because the people can stand no more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE posted Message 988 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 07:22:35 Subject: UNCLE SAM WANTS YOU HCDO WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE FORGET ABOUT THE RECALL JAIL TIME WILL FIX THAT PROBLEM FOR THOSE THAT REMAIN OR ARE IN QUESTION ABOUT THEIR STATUS AS CORRUPT PUBLIC OFFICIALS I SUGGEST YOU WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE OR NEGOTIATE A MEANS OF TURNING RAT ON YOUR FELLOW RATS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO WIRE WEARING CLUB ie CLUB FED posted Message 989 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 07:27:50 Subject: GUESS WHO IS A MEMBER OF LONG STANDING MANY PEOPLE ARE MEMBERS OF THIS SECRET CLUB FOR YEARS THEY HAVE RECORDED ALL CONVERSATIONS, MAINTAINED COPIES OF CHECKS AND WIRES TO OFFSHORE LOCATIONS, KEPT SECRET DEPOSITORIES OF DOCUMENTS MANY THOUGHT WHERE DESTROYED AND FINALLY MADE VIDEOS OF MEETINGS IN BERMUDA. THE HCDO WIRE WEARINF CLUB IS A BIG HIT MANY WILL FALL EXCEPT FOR ITS MEMBERS THEY HAVE A SWEET DEAL THEY GET TO KEEP THE MONEY THEY STOLE AND LIVE IN SOME FEDERALLY PROTECTED RESORT. CLUB FED ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO MEETING WITH THE FEDS LIKE THE LINE AT DMV posted Message 990 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 07:32:55 Subject: LINES ARE FORMING OUTSIDE THE FEDERAL AG'S OFFICE FINALLY CORRUPT POLITICANS STAND IN LINE OR SHOULD I SAY LINE UP EITHER WAY THEY ARE MAKING A BEE LINE FOR THE FEDS. THIRTY YEARS WORTH OF DEALS WILL BE EXPOSED SHORTLY AS THE FED CLOSES IN FOR A ROUND UP. LIKE A CATTLE DRIVE THE FEDS WILL STORM THE OFFICES AND CAPTURE THE OFFSHORE RECORDS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE HCDO. NOW THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS CAN FINALLY SERVE THEIR TRUE CAUSE ORGANIZING CARD GAMES IN PETERSBURG VIRGINA PRISON. FYI ORANGE IS THE COLOR THIS SEASON HELL THEY WEAR ORANGE ALL THE TIME. WHO OH WHO HAS BEEN WEARING A WIRE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FORGET THE RECALL YOU CAN NOT RUN FOR OFFICE IN PRISON posted Message 991 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 07:35:32 Subject: NO RECALL SEND THE POOR CRIMINALS A CARTON OF SMOKES HCDO MEMBERS WILL BE ACCEPTING CARE PACKAGES AT THE PETERSBURG FACILTIES AS GUEST OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. ALL THOSE WISHING TO SUPPORT THIS OUTRAGE OF RACISM PLEASE SEND DONANTIONS TO PETERSBURG VIRGINA. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO OUTRAGE OF RACISM posted Message 992 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 07:38:49 Subject: HCDO OUTRAGE OF RACISM GLENN CUNNINGHAM IS THE GREATEST LEADER FROM NOTHERN NEW JERSEY IN YEARS HE IS HONEST AND WORKS TO PRODUCE JOBS AND ECONOMIC GROWTH. THE STRATEGY IS SIMPLE DO NOT STEAL FROM THE PEOPLE AND HELP THEM. ONE REALLY IMPORTANT DETAIL DO NOT TREAT PEOPLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THEIR COLOR. CORRUPTION, RACISM, AND BRIBES CREATE OUTRAGE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NO IT IS NOT OK TO STEAL FROM THE PEOPLE posted Message 993 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:32:17 Subject: IT IS WRONG TO STEAL FROM THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY IT CAN NOT BE SAID ENOUGH IT IS WRONG WRONG WRONG TO STEAL FROM THE PEOPLE OF HUDSON COUNTY. HOW DARE DORIO TALK ABOUT UTN A FREE PRESS HE HAS TRIED TO SUPRESS. THE END OF THIS RULE OF TERROR, THEFT, AND CORRUPTION IS COMING TO AN END WITH THE BEGINNING OF GLENN CUNNINGHAMS ELECTION AND LEADERSHIP. I'M NOT THE UTN BUT SUPPORT THEIR BRAVERY AND WONDER WHY ALL THE PEOPLE OF HUDSON COUNTY BLACKS, WHITES, HISPANIC COMING TOGETHER TO FORM A FUTURE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND RESTORE OUR DIGNITY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RESTORE OUR DIGINITY RECALL posted Message 994 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:33:40 Subject: WHILE A RECALL MAY NOT HAPPEN BEFORE A TRIAL RECALL ANYWAY EVEN IF IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WILL BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE BY THE COURTS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** STEVIES MOMMY HATES CORRUPTION posted Message 995 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:36:14 Subject: AS STEVIES MOMMY STOP CORRUPTION RECALL THE OUTRAGE OF RACISM STOP THE HCDO MACHINE RECALL. HCDO PLEASE TURN YOURSELVES IN AND SAVE THE PUBLIC THE LOSE OF DIGINITY. STEVE'S MOMMY WANTS YOU TO ACT LIKE GOOD PEOPLE TRY IT YOU MAY LIKE IT. ALSO I'M SHORT AND PROUD OF BEING SHORT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** STOPPING CORRUPTION IN HUDSON COUNTY posted Message 996 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:37:49 Subject: STOP CORRUPTION SUPPORT GLENN CUNNINGHAM IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD MAYBE IF THE HCDO STOP THEIR CORRUPTION. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JERSEY CITY VICTIM OF CRIME HCDO HAS MUGGED THE PEOPLE posted Message 997 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:39:28 Subject: VICTIMS OF CRIME THE PEOPLE STOP THE CORRUPTION STOP THE STEALING ASK THE HCDO TO STEP DOWN RESTORE YOUR DIGINITY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHILDREN NEED A FUTURE THAT IS BEING ROBBED BY THE HCDO posted Message 998 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:41:37 Subject: HOW CAN A PROPER SYSTEM OF EDUCATION BE PROVIDED IN A CORRUPT HUDSON COUNTY OUR CHILDREN SUFFER BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT STOOD UP TO THE HCDO AND TOLD THEM WE WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS WE ARE THE PEOPLE STOP THE STEALING. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE ELDERLY NEED THE SERVICES ROBBED BY CORRUPTION posted Message 999 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:44:31 Subject: THE ELDERLY NEED THE SERVICES STOLEN BY CORRUPTION HOW MANY ELDERLY SUFFER BECAUSE SERVICES AND FUNDS TO PROVIDE SERVICES ARE STOLEN BY THE CORRUPTION OF THE HCDO. WE THE ELDERLY OF HUDSON COUNTY CANNOT STAND THIS OUTRAGE AND THE STEALING OF OUR DIGNITY. WE HAVE DIED IN TO PROTECT FREEDOM ON FOREIGN SHORES THE BLOOD OF THE THOSE THAT HAVE COME BEFORE CRY FOR JUSTICE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOVE OF FREEDOM WILL RECALL THE HCDO posted Message 1000 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:46:19 Subject: LOVE OF GOD, COUNTRY, AND FREEDOM STOP THE CORRUPTION STOP THE THEFT OF OUR LIVES OUR FREEDOM BY THE HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TO ALL THOSE THAT SUFFER FROM CORRUPTION posted Message 1001 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:48:01 Subject: A PRAYER FOR ALL THOSE THAT SUFFER FROM CORRUPTION MAY OUR BROKEN DREAMS OF FREEDOM BE RESTORED STOP THE HCDO AND ITS RACIST CORRUPTION. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I HAD A DREAM posted Message 1002 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:49:31 Subject: I HAD A DREAM MANY HAVE DIED TO SUPPORT THE HOPE OF A NEW FUTURE EVEN TODAY THE FIGHT GOES ON UTN HAS BEEN THE VOICE OF HOPE AGAINST THE HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WHY CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG posted Message 1003 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:51:07 Subject: RODNEY WELL NO ONE CAN GET ALONG WITH RACIST AND PEOPLE THAT STEAL DREAMS OF FREEDOM. STOP THE HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MENENDEZ THE EVIL BEHIND THE HCDO posted Message 1004 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:52:40 Subject: STOP FIDEL MENENDEZ STOP THE DICTATOR MENENDEZ STOP HIS CONTROL OF HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE POOR TAXPAYER ROBBED posted Message 1005 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:54:07 Subject: ROBBED BY THE HCDO HOW MANY DOLLARS NEVER GOT TO WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED STOP THE HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DORIA CRYS FOWL posted Message 1006 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:55:53 Subject: PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST FAMILY MR. DORIA UTN NEVER MADE A PERSONAL ATTACK THEY SIMPLY STATED FACTS OF RACIST AND CORRUPTION IF THAT IS A PERSONAL ATTACK THEN CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOR. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE posted Message 1007 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 08:58:22 Subject: DEALING WITH THE FEDERAL WITNESS PROTECTION CLASSES WILL BE HELD FOR THE OBTAINING THE BEST DEAL IN THE FEDERAL WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM WILL BE HELD AT HCDO HEADQUARTERS. PARTICIPANTS ARE ASKED TO BRING TRANSCRIPTS OF INFORMATION GIVEN TO THE FEDS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE posted Message 1008 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 09:00:52 Subject: STING OPERATIONS ARE GROWING WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU TOOK FUNDS DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY FROM AN ILLEGAL SOURCE FOR AN ILLEGAL PURPOSE. IT SEEMS THAT RECORDINGS HAVE BEEN MADE AND VIDEOS. WHO WILL BE THE STAR THIS WEEK AS THE WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE PROGRAM COMES TO AN END. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE posted Message 1009 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 09:02:22 Subject: LET YOUR FELLOW CORRUPTION PARTNERS DO YOUR TIME WHY WAIT FOR OTHERS TO TURN YOU IN TURN THEM IN FIRST. ***************** End Of Article ****************** STOP CORRUPTION posted Message 1010 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 09:05:36 Subject: GROWTH SECTOR KEEP YOUR MONEY AND CHECK OUT THE FEDERAL WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAMS ***************** End Of Article ****************** VICTIM OF CORRUPTION posted Message 1011 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 09:07:19 Subject: GLENN CUNNINGHAM FOR GOVENOR RECALL MCGREEVEY AND ELECT GLENN CUNNIGHAM GOVENOR OF NEW JERSEY ***************** End Of Article ****************** FOR SALE CORRUPT POLITICAL ORGANIZATION posted Message 1012 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 09:09:05 Subject: HCDO WILL SELL THE ORGANIZATION TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER HCDO GOES TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER CHEAP AS THE FEDS CLOSE IN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** PEACE TO THE PEOPLE OF HUDSON COUNTY posted Message 1013 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 09:11:02 Subject: MAY PEACE BE THE OUTCOME OF THIS FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION PEACE TO HUDSON COUNTY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THIS IS BIGGER THAN ALL OF US posted Message 1014 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 09:12:54 Subject: THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE FOR HONEST GOVERNMENT PEOPLE ARE THE REASON TO FIGHT CORRUPTION THEY NEED AN HONEST GOVERNMENT. PEOPLE ARE THE REASON FOR GOVERNMENT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HOPE OF A BETTER DAY posted Message 1015 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 09:14:10 Subject: NO CORRUPTION HOPE OF A BETTER DAY HUDSON COUNTY NEEDS HOPE FOR A BETTER DAY NO CORRUPTION. ***************** End Of Article ****************** STOP CORRUPTION posted Message 1016 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 09:15:31 Subject: WE NEED TO STOP CORRUPTION SUPPORT CUNNINGHAM SUPPORTING CUNNINGHAM WILL STOP THE CORRUPTION AND RACIST BEHAVIOR OF THE HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** STOP CORRUPTION posted Message 1017 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 09:16:56 Subject: CUNNINGHAM IS GOD'S CANDIDATE GLENN CUNNINGHAM IS GOD'S CANDIDATE TO CLEAN UP HUDSON COUNTY AND THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GOD'S LOVE posted Message 1018 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 09:18:14 Subject: GOD WANTS YOU TO STOP THE EVIL OF CORRUPTION GOD DOES NOT WANT YOU TO WASTE YOUR LIVES WITH CORRUPTION IT MUST STOP DO THE RIGHT THING. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GOD'S MESSENGER posted Message 1019 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 09:19:39 Subject: STOP THE EVIL OF RACISM STOP THE HCDO IT IS NOT PERSONAL TO ASK THE HCDO TO HONOR THE PEOPLES CANDIDATE AND STOP THEIR CORRUPTION. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1020 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 10:14:39 Subject: News 12 Video: Doria Trashes the Urban Times News On the News 12 show, NJ Power and Politics, Bayonne Mayor Joe Doria speaks out against the Urban Times News. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Fears the Truth posted Message 1021 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 10:56:56 Subject: Doria Sounds Afraid Big Joe Doria sounds like he is afraid of the Urban Times News -- In addition I noticed that the guy interviewing Doria seemed to fluff off and basically dismiss Doria's UTN Complaints .... Just an observation. : On the News 12 show, NJ Power and Politics, Bayonne Mayor Joe Doria speaks out against the Urban Times News. : To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1022 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 11:33:04 Subject: Re: News 12 Video: Doria Trashes the Urban Times News : On the News 12 show, NJ Power and Politics, Bayonne Mayor Joe Doria speaks out against the Urban Times News. : To view the Online video, please click on the Link. HCDO Joe again shows that how that crowd thinks of the people of Jersey City as a big mass of silly putty -- TAKES ANY SHAPE THAT YOU ROLL IT UP INTO!!! PRESS IT AGAINST THE PAGES OF THE URBAN TIMES NEWS AND THE PRINT RUBS OFF AGAINST IT!!! Didja maybe figger guys that the residents of Jersey City really do think? That they aren't some buncha zombies with the Urban Times News whispering orders into their ears? The truth (as Degise's loss in Jersey City shows) is that Jersey City doesn't like being dictated to. UTN reflects what people in Jersey City are thinking. The UTN isn't putting thoughts into anybody's head! HCDO insults and attacks the people of Jersey City and expects love and respect to be the result? I see three options:The HDCO leadership and their communication wizards all are soft in the head – at the very least, as far as Jersey City is concernedHCDO has found it expedient to alienate Jersey City. By making Jersey City the enemy, HCDO consolidates control over the rest of the county.The HCDO communication crew has hijacked the enterprise and continues throwing gasoline on the fire to make work for themselves. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lance A. Lott posted Message 1023 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 12:15:56 Subject: Get A Life Who ever is writing all this crap is one sick puppy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Superman Woof Woof posted Message 1024 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 15:11:18 Subject: Re: Get A Life truth justice and the american way woof woof : Who ever is writing all this crap is one sick puppy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stupid idiot posted Message 1025 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2003 at 21:05:21 Subject: I wonder if there is anything fun to do with Hudson County Politics Does the Democratice Organization hold parties and dances fun things that can attract people. Since this is almost a Presidential Election year with no clear leader in sight how are the Democrats organizing around the various candidates? There must be a glimer of some viable political activity. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FREEDOM FROM HCDO posted Message 1026 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2003 at 00:15:18 Subject: SUPPORT FRAGUELA, DINARDO AND MUNOZ Support the candidates against the corrupt HCDO on the 33rd district. Vote smart, vote against HCDO candidates who want to rob your money. Vote and Support Fraguela, Dinardo and Munoz!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get off this board ..This is a Dem only fight forum posted Message 1027 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2003 at 02:00:00 Subject: UTN SAYS GO AWAY..HCDO SAYS GO AWAY THE PEOPLE SAY GO AWAY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sparky the Fire Dog posted Message 1028 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2003 at 09:31:50 Subject: If the HCDO cancels the Cunnigham victory Sparky wil pay their graft I was wondering why the Black Democrats have not spoken up against this racist group running the Hudson County Democrats seems as if they have ignored the whole story. I wonder why? Also the party ie the Democratic Machine has still remained in power regardless of the games they play. So my question is where are all the outraged Democrats or are they really just like everybody else and only want what lines their pockets. Granted at times I'm to the right of Jesse Helms when it comes to the use and abuse of tax dollars but this a clear case of racism and should never be tolerated by Republican or Democrat or do they believe if you live in the North you cannot be a racist. This is clearly a double standard glossed over by the preconceived notion that Yankees are not racist well this proof of the amount of denial they have about their own form of racism. Even though I lean towards the Republicans when it comes to fiscal responsibility in government the fact that Cunnigham has been denied his due process after an election and the voters have been denied their votes makes me sick. So if the HCDO ran Sparky the fire dog and he agreed to continue to support their corruption Sparky could run because it seems to be what they want how they want it and when they want it. In essence they are anti-democratic and cancerous to a free peoples process of government. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just Another Dude posted Message 1029 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2003 at 12:49:09 Subject: Childhood Obesity The answer for fat head babies like the Hudson County Democratic facist Pediatricians have a responsibility to identify and combat the growing incidence of childhood obesity, with nearly one in seven U.S. children afflicted, a doctor's group said on Monday. "At a minimum ... pediatricians need to proactively discuss and promote healthy eating behaviors for children at an early age," a policy statement by the American Academy of Pediatricians said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 1030 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2003 at 17:31:43 Subject: Tonites topics on HCT Cunninghams ralley, No petitions for McCann and Cruz, Best theatres in Hudson County, Worse movies ever made (Jlo and Bens movies bombs at the box office all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 1030 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2003 at 17:31:46 Subject: Tonites topics on HCT Cunninghams ralley, No petitions for McCann and Cruz, Best theatres in Hudson County, Worse movies ever made (Jlo and Bens movies bombs at the box office all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I love Jlo's acting posted Message 1031 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2003 at 18:49:08 Subject: Re: Tonites topics on HCT Who would go to a Jlo film for the acting its like a Bridgit Bardot movie for the lighting. : Cunninghams ralley, No petitions for McCann and Cruz, Best theatres in Hudson County, Worse movies ever made (Jlo and Bens movies bombs at the box office all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pat the S U C K UP posted Message 1032 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2003 at 19:20:37 Subject: Worse Radio Show On Earth Please Pat -- Give it up. Did you get the County Job yet? : Cunninghams ralley, No petitions for McCann and Cruz, Best theatres in Hudson County, Worse movies ever made (Jlo and Bens movies bombs at the box office all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Third Party without racism posted Message 1033 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2003 at 22:58:36 Subject: The Democrats have failed a third party is required The Democrats have failed in Hudson County by preforming acts that can only be understood to be racist in nature and self serving to line their pockets. It must be time for a new party one that does require one to surrender legal election results for political underhanded deals. Cunnigham won fair and square so why has the HCDO continued to stop his progress? This situation is unacceptable to those that care about freedom and justice. Stop supporting the Democrats all together and form another party without racism. Present office holders in alliance with the HCDO should be asked if they agree with the racist treatment of Glenn Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loyal HCDO=Racist posted Message 1034 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2003 at 23:01:40 Subject: Acts committed in your name are your property Loyal HCDO=Racist When they came for me no one was there to stand up with me because I had let them take you. Cunningham's victory has been stolen all hope is gone ***************** End Of Article ****************** Webster posted Message 1035 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2003 at 23:04:16 Subject: Definition rac·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm) n. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. Discrimination or prejudice based on race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ATTtollFree Collections posted Message 1036 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2003 at 00:15:02 Subject: Pat's Phone Disconnected ! After recieving NUMEROUS complaints we have disconnect Pat's 877 Phone Number. This was done as a service to the community. Pat's S U C K up agenda was too much for our Tool Free lines to handle. In Addition PAT OWES $$$$$$$$$$ for his Toll Free Number Pat tried to pay his phone bill by giving ATT free Airtime on his lame show - Needless to say our ATT Service Rep laughed in Pat's Face. : Cunninghams ralley, No petitions for McCann and Cruz, Best theatres in Hudson County, Worse movies ever made (Jlo and Bens movies bombs at the box office all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** S,G. posted Message 1037 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2003 at 02:03:03 Subject: S.A. TTM TTM MMMMM I Love The Things You Say TTM TTM ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frank posted Message 1038 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2003 at 06:19:06 Subject: My Ears Hear Sal Vega is next to be Indicted by FEDS The FBI is now going to make public the cooperation of Sal Vega as a Stooge. Having been caught on the Janiszewski tapes SAL has been a very good informant and has been very helpful recording others on tapes of his own. Sal suicide ain't going to save you from the Big house but that mic will. Great Job Sal Vega! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1039 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2003 at 08:23:35 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bob the Bishop posted Message 1040 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2003 at 09:41:15 Subject: HCDO names Menendez leader of the year Having ended the due process afforded even the poorest of the poor Congressman Menendez has achieved the leader of the year. Of course this award has only been given once before to Adolf Hitler. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Leather lungs posted Message 1041 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2003 at 22:10:22 Subject: Steve hic-cup Lipski Boy wonder had another accident with his city car on Monday afternoon. Its his 4th in the last 2 years that have been reported. The last few in the daytime after a liquid lunch. This guy is dangerous to himself and anybody in his path. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Denied the News?? posted Message 1042 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2003 at 06:38:10 Subject: How does Nick Sacco keep all the crime stories out of Jersey journal? How Does Nick Sacco get away with all his abuses in North Bergen? Where is the FBI? How come there is a news black out of anything bad happening in North Bergen? Where are the Jersey Journal ethics as a local newspaper? I thinks its time to move from NB and NJ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Simple poor journalism not ethics posted Message 1043 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2003 at 07:45:59 Subject: Re: How does Nick Sacco keep all the crime stories out of Jersey journal? Are you suggesting that a newspaper has left news out of their publication for a political reason? Ethics aside that type of question requires and investigation. Maybe just maybe there is an oversight on the part of the Editor or a lack of resources to cover these incidents. Maybe Mr. Sacco is clean as the driven snow? Maybe the FBI is already there gathering information waiting to gain a critical mass for court? Maybe North Bergen has no issues that warrant an investigation? There are many many maybes about this lack of news. Maybe the Journal lacks staff and cannot afford to cover North Bergen? If because of the lack of money the Journal cannot cover North Bergen and Mr. Sacco then whos fault is it they are simply poor. We cannot make attacks on a company for a business decision. On the other hand if it is done for political reasons and the Journal has full knowledge of wrong doings by Mr. Sacco and the have a policy to ignore these incidents then that is a bad thing but who knows what is going on. In any case a newspaper should clarify issues not cloud them. The situation with Mr. Sacco and his relationship the Journal clouds the issues and leaves one thinking that the newspapers policy is bad journalism. : How Does Nick Sacco get away with all his abuses in North Bergen? : Where is the FBI? : How come there is a news black out of anything bad happening in North Bergen? : Where are the Jersey Journal ethics as a local newspaper? : I thinks its time to move from NB and NJ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The rasism card is getting old. posted Message 1044 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2003 at 09:24:21 Subject: Someting to think about. The last time we looked, Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith was still African-American and Assemblywoman Elba Perez-Cinciarelli of Jersey City was still a Latina. Yet their continuing court challenges to the results of the June Democratic primary in the 31st Legislative District are continually labeled as racist actions by opponents, particularly Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. Cunningham defeated Smith for the Democratic nomination for state Senate. His running mates, Bayonne Councilman Anthony Chiappone and former Hudson County Freeholder Louis Manzo of Jersey City, defeated Perez-Cinciarelli and Assemblyman Joseph V. Doria Jr., who is also mayor of Bayonne. Smith, Perez-Cinciarelli and Doria were the candidates of the Hudson County Democratic Organization, and they're now in court trying to void the results. They allege voter fraud and illegal campaign spending. It may be a grasping at straws. It may be an attempt, as the Cunningham team charges, to "steal" an election through the courts that they couldn't win at the polls. Maybe the HCDO has a case. It spent more than $1 million on a losing campaign, so what's another $100,000 or so to go to court? But is it racism? In this case, Cunningham argues that the challenge involves the mostly African-American portion of the district. But racism's a charge Jersey City's first African-American mayor and his allies have never been shy of employing in the 11/2 years that Cunningham has been battling with the HCDO leadership. Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, has been a particular Cunningham target, but he has plenty of company. Even Gov. James E. McGreevey has been included because of his support of HCDO candidates and his subsequent refusal to intervene on behalf of Cunningham as the legal battle continues. Numerous other opponents, or people who just disagree with the mayor on issues, have been labeled as racist by the Cunningham camp - including this newspaper because it didn't endorse him for mayor two years ago or for Senate this year. African-Americans like Smith who oppose Cunningham are called traitors to their race. Is Smith any less African-American because he ran against Cunningham instead of supporting him? Why is dumping a Latina elected official in favor of an Italian-American male any less racially motivated than challenging Cunningham? If the results were overturned, wouldn't Smith and Perez-Cinciarelli be the beneficiaries? Would that be racism? It's also no small irony that Cunningham has surrounded himself with advisers who in the past he criticized for their attempts to thwart minority voters - and, in fact, were the principals in a municipal election campaign that led to civil rights complaints alleging attempts to suppress minority votes. The case cost an insurance firm some $600,000 to settle. Now that those people campaign for Cunningham, there's no mention by the administration of these past complaints. There are many reasons for the HCDO and Cunningham to be fighting - the desire to control patronage and contracts; the reluctance of most of the other mayors in the county to let any mayor of Jersey City of any color impose his will upon the county political apparatus; plain old ego. Cunningham maintains he wants only his fair share. The HCDO says it's willing to give him a fair share. What are the chances of agreeing on what is a fair share? Meanwhile, the invective goes on. There's no question that racism exists and should be exposed. But equating any or all anti-Cunningham sentiment or activity with racism is disingenuous, if not outright dishonest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WOW Cunningham Won posted Message 1045 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2003 at 09:34:49 Subject: Re: Someting to think about. Glenn Cunningham won well that was the first time I've every heard this from an HCDO supporter. The race card never gets old since racism is something to fight against. The HCDO while it maybe somewhat open to representation other than white it lacks equal treatment for its minority supporters. The Victory of Glenn Cunningham was against the HCDO's effort to defeat him. They must be held accountable to their accounts to defeat him which they lost. When and if a minority is considered acceptable the sole determining factor is that minorities compliance with the corrupt scenario already in place. This long legacy of corruption has its roots firmly planted in soil that mandates a corrupt usurping of the peoples money and their right to representation. So while not overtly racist their actions can be considered nothing else but racist. The struggle against poverty, racism, and equal access to the law has been denied to all but in particular the minority community which needs this safety net of dignity to advance in society. This form of racism by denial of service and access to justice is more dangerous because titular representation of minorities makes the claim of RACISM unclear but still the defacto agenda. : The last time we looked, Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith was still African-American and Assemblywoman Elba Perez-Cinciarelli of Jersey City was still a Latina. : Yet their continuing court challenges to the results of the June Democratic primary in the 31st Legislative District are continually labeled as racist actions by opponents, particularly Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. : : Cunningham defeated Smith for the Democratic nomination for state Senate. His running mates, Bayonne Councilman Anthony Chiappone and former Hudson County Freeholder Louis Manzo of Jersey City, defeated Perez-Cinciarelli and Assemblyman Joseph V. Doria Jr., who is also mayor of Bayonne. : Smith, Perez-Cinciarelli and Doria were the candidates of the Hudson County Democratic Organization, and they're now in court trying to void the results. They allege voter fraud and illegal campaign spending. : It may be a grasping at straws. It may be an attempt, as the Cunningham team charges, to "steal" an election through the courts that they couldn't win at the polls. Maybe the HCDO has a case. It spent more than $1 million on a losing campaign, so what's another $100,000 or so to go to court? : But is it racism? : In this case, Cunningham argues that the challenge involves the mostly African-American portion of the district. But racism's a charge Jersey City's first African-American mayor and his allies have never been shy of employing in the 11/2 years that Cunningham has been battling with the HCDO leadership. : Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, has been a particular Cunningham target, but he has plenty of company. Even Gov. James E. McGreevey has been included because of his support of HCDO candidates and his subsequent refusal to intervene on behalf of Cunningham as the legal battle continues. : Numerous other opponents, or people who just disagree with the mayor on issues, have been labeled as racist by the Cunningham camp - including this newspaper because it didn't endorse him for mayor two years ago or for Senate this year. African-Americans like Smith who oppose Cunningham are called traitors to their race. : Is Smith any less African-American because he ran against Cunningham instead of supporting him? Why is dumping a Latina elected official in favor of an Italian-American male any less racially motivated than challenging Cunningham? : If the results were overturned, wouldn't Smith and Perez-Cinciarelli be the beneficiaries? Would that be racism? : It's also no small irony that Cunningham has surrounded himself with advisers who in the past he criticized for their attempts to thwart minority voters - and, in fact, were the principals in a municipal election campaign that led to civil rights complaints alleging attempts to suppress minority votes. The case cost an insurance firm some $600,000 to settle. : Now that those people campaign for Cunningham, there's no mention by the administration of these past complaints. : There are many reasons for the HCDO and Cunningham to be fighting - the desire to control patronage and contracts; the reluctance of most of the other mayors in the county to let any mayor of Jersey City of any color impose his will upon the county political apparatus; plain old ego. : Cunningham maintains he wants only his fair share. The HCDO says it's willing to give him a fair share. What are the chances of agreeing on what is a fair share? Meanwhile, the invective goes on. : There's no question that racism exists and should be exposed. But equating any or all anti-Cunningham sentiment or activity with racism is disingenuous, if not outright dishonest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SMACK MUFFINS posted Message 1046 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2003 at 15:16:03 Subject: I'M TIRED OF ALL THIS WE ARE SUCH NICE PEOPLE I'M TIRED OF ALL THESE NICE CORRUPT DUDES FROM THE HCDO CRYING ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE BEEN ATTACKED. THIS IS A LIE THEY HAVE STOLEN, ROBBED AND CHEATED . THEREFORE THEY SHOULD BE THROWN OUT ON THEIR EAR. WE THE PEOPLE CANNOT STAND THEIR LIES ANYMORE END THEIR RACIST REGIME. END IT NOW WE ARE TIRED OF LISTENING TO THEIR LIE ABOUT PERSONAL ATTACKS DORITTO BANDITTO FROM BAYONNE HAD HSI TWO SISTERS BOTH OF WHOM ARE NUNS LIE IN ORDER TO VOTE FOR HIM. GETTING NUNS TO LIE REALLY. DORITTO BANDITTO FORM BAYONNE STOP CRYING ABOUT ATTACKS YOUR CORRUPTION OFFENDS US ALL LEAVE GO TO FLORIDA. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LETS RUMBLE posted Message 1047 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2003 at 15:18:22 Subject: CALLING FOR A TAG TEAM MATCH SINCE THE HCDO DOES NOT AGREE TO DEMOCRATIC TERMS MAYBE A WRESTLING MATCH WOULD WORK.. I'M SURE THE WWF WOULD SPONSOR IT. IMAGINE DORITTO BANDITTO AND HCDO TAG TEAM. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roll In DOUGH - Find Joes WET Spot posted Message 1048 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2003 at 16:50:14 Subject: DORIA = SUMO WRESTLER : SINCE THE HCDO DOES NOT AGREE TO DEMOCRATIC TERMS MAYBE A WRESTLING MATCH WOULD WORK.. I'M SURE THE WWF WOULD SPONSOR IT. IMAGINE DORITTO BANDITTO AND HCDO TAG TEAM. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Year of the Recall Conan the Destroyer posted Message 1049 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2003 at 22:22:55 Subject: Lets get a Terminator for the HCDO Maybe Hudson County needs a Terminator like California has. Are there any Arnold's in Hudson County. We shall see if we can make these scoundrels run for the hills before the Federal Investigators get to them. We'll be back. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Arnold Schwarzenegger posted Message 1050 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2003 at 22:25:08 Subject: Recall the HCDO let play Predator You can hide HCDO but we will find you and out you go. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GROW UP EVERYONE! posted Message 1051 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2003 at 22:41:17 Subject: THE CRAP ON THIS BOARD IS BULL$HIT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1052 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 07, 2003 at 06:06:23 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Royal Flush posted Message 1053 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 07, 2003 at 08:13:10 Subject: Secaucus Graveyard? You ain't seen nothin' yet! Getting Dan Frohwirth fired, the waterfront queen might just finally bitten off too much. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THIS SITE $UCKS posted Message 1054 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 07, 2003 at 14:05:42 Subject: Re: Welcome to the Message Board. UGH! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1055 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 07, 2003 at 14:52:47 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Feuilles posted Message 1056 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 07, 2003 at 21:44:47 Subject: The red card Glenn's Red Card In basketball it is called a technical foul. In baseball, it's the umpire giving one the heave-ho. Football has personal fouls. And in soccer, it's the red card. When a player on the field causes such disruption as to cause the referee to stop play and cause the player to be removed from the game. It's the ultimate penalty – its when the referee says to a player no more. It comes after such a foul that could cause the game itself to be fundamentally changed. For Jersey City Mayor GLENN CUNNINGHAM, some state Democratic leaders are saying, it may be time for the red card. Cunningham, who became Jersey City's first African American Mayor two years ago, has become one of the most mercurial leaders in the state. In the short period of two years, he has alienated the very political allies that put him into office, engaged in a petty fight with the local Congressman, angered local and state Democrats, and has fought with pretty much everybody on the other side of Newark Bay. Cunningham even compared Menendez to a "political terrorist" in the immediate aftermath of September 11th, where residents of Cunningham's city were killed. Many political observers thought that Cunningham was making dumb, but rookie, mistakes. Many political observers saw Cunningham's actions as the sign of a one term mayor. But this June, Cunningham seemed to gain the upper hand. After a very hard fought campaign, Cunningham, was nominated for the State Senate, defeating party endorsed candidate and Jersey City Council President L. HARVEY SMITH by an eight point margin. The margin helped defeat long time Assemblyman JOSEPH DORIA and Assemblywoman ELBA PEREZ-CINCIARELLI by Bayonne Councilman ANTHONY CHIAPPONE and former Hudson County Freeholder LOUIS MANZO. The sweep seemed complete as Cunningham emerged with one of the most powerful tools in New Jersey politics – senatorial courtesy. But Cunningham appears completely unable to be a good winner. In fact, since the June primary, Cunningham may well be on his way to Worst Winner of the Year. Since the primary, Cunningham has taunted Gov. JAMES E. MCGREEVEY, challenged State Democratic Chairwoman BONNIE WATSON COLEMAN (whom he called "Aunt Bonnie," -- a term offensive to African Americans), attacked fellow Hudson County Democrats, and raised the specter of the Ku Klux Klan. The HCDO filed suit last week, alleging that Cunningham's team was aided by contributions from several political action committees that far exceeded the $36,000 limit prescribed by law. The county party also submitted what they claim is evidence gleaned from an extensive review of voting records that shows illegal voter participation in the primary that might have altered the results of each race. The HCDO has said its goal is to overturn the results of the primary. Under such a scenario, the party's county committee would then pick new candidates. Two Hudson Democratic sources says that the organization is confident enough in their ability to deliver margins in other parts of the county that they are willing to publicly reveal longtime tactics used to manipulate votes in Jersey City. If that's accurate, it ought to be quite a show. It is Cunningham's recent actions that have political insiders wondering about his own stability. In recent days, Cunningham supporters have attacked State Senator BERNARD KENNY, the Hudson County Democratic Chairman, by invoking a 40-year-old issue regarding Kenny's late father in an effort to damage his reputation. Then Cunningham accused Congressman ROBERT MENENDEZ, of being a racist and said that the actions of the Hudson Democrats were little different than those of the Klan. That's a tough sell, even in the rough-and-tumble of Hudson County politics. Cunningham's attempt to play the race card against the organization has little credibility. The HCDO helped Charles become the first African American State Senator from Hudson County, backed the late JANET HAYNES for County Clerk, and Cunningham himself was the beneficiary of organization support in the 2001 mayoral race. If anything, the June primary was a net loss for minorities: Perez-Cinciarelli, an Hispanic woman, will be replaced in the State Assembly by a white male. Finally, on Tuesday evening, Cunningham led a demonstration at Menendez' office and again saying that Menendez was insufficiently understanding of black voters. Menendez fired back immediately saying that Cunningham's actions were way outside the mainstream of politics. Cunningham's Assembly running mate, Manzo, says he might challenge Menendez next year for Congress. A number of Statehouse observers are stunned by Cunningham's actions. After winning the Senate nomination, Cunningham seemed to have the potential of enormous political strength. But not less than two months later, Cunningham seems to have backed himself into a corner by challenging Menendez, the member of Congress with one of the single largest campaign war chests in the country -- nearly $3 million. Cunningham was in the position to demand peace in Hudson County; now he has seemingly crossed the Rubicon, there can no peace between Menendez and Cunningham. Caught in the middle are state Democrat leaders. For McGreevey, he is loathe to cross the powerful Menendez, whose political reach extends outside the borders of his four-county congressional district -- despite some very public feuding in recent months. In addition, Watson Coleman is said to be gravely concerned about Cunningham's rather public flirtation with Republican Senate Co-President JOHN BENNETT, including a very well noticed lunch last week in Jersey City. And Cunningham has forged a strong political alliance with former Newark mayoral candidate CORY BOOKER, whose law firm gets considerable Jersey City work -- Cunningham is expected to attend a fundraiser for Booker's 2006 campaign for Mayor at the Ridgewood home of attorney VICTOR HERLINKSY. This won't help Cunningham get along with another big city Mayor/State Senator: Booker foe SHARPE JAMES. The Mayor of Jersey City seems to be doing everything he can to preclude peace. By attacking Kenny's family, calling Menendez a racist and a terrorist, and by dancing with the Republicans, Cunningham seems to be insisting on a total victory, defined presumably by the removal of Menendez from Congress. An highly unlikely event. Cunningham may well end up winning some political battles, but many New Jersey political observers are feeling that he is not playing well with others and needs a red card. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Feuilles posted Message 1057 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 07, 2003 at 21:46:34 Subject: The pot calling the kettle........................ The last time we looked, Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith was still African-American and Assemblywoman Elba Perez-Cinciarelli of Jersey City was still a Latina. Yet their continuing court challenges to the results of the June Democratic primary in the 31st Legislative District are continually labeled as racist actions by opponents, particularly Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. Cunningham defeated Smith for the Democratic nomination for state Senate. His running mates, Bayonne Councilman Anthony Chiappone and former Hudson County Freeholder Louis Manzo of Jersey City, defeated Perez-Cinciarelli and Assemblyman Joseph V. Doria Jr., who is also mayor of Bayonne. Smith, Perez-Cinciarelli and Doria were the candidates of the Hudson County Democratic Organization, and they're now in court trying to void the results. They allege voter fraud and illegal campaign spending. It may be a grasping at straws. It may be an attempt, as the Cunningham team charges, to "steal" an election through the courts that they couldn't win at the polls. Maybe the HCDO has a case. It spent more than $1 million on a losing campaign, so what's another $100,000 or so to go to court? But is it racism? In this case, Cunningham argues that the challenge involves the mostly African-American portion of the district. But racism's a charge Jersey City's first African-American mayor and his allies have never been shy of employing in the 11/2 years that Cunningham has been battling with the HCDO leadership. Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, has been a particular Cunningham target, but he has plenty of company. Even Gov. James E. McGreevey has been included because of his support of HCDO candidates and his subsequent refusal to intervene on behalf of Cunningham as the legal battle continues. Numerous other opponents, or people who just disagree with the mayor on issues, have been labeled as racist by the Cunningham camp - including this newspaper because it didn't endorse him for mayor two years ago or for Senate this year. African-Americans like Smith who oppose Cunningham are called traitors to their race. Is Smith any less African-American because he ran against Cunningham instead of supporting him? Why is dumping a Latina elected official in favor of an Italian-American male any less racially motivated than challenging Cunningham? If the results were overturned, wouldn't Smith and Perez-Cinciarelli be the beneficiaries? Would that be racism? It's also no small irony that Cunningham has surrounded himself with advisers who in the past he criticized for their attempts to thwart minority voters - and, in fact, were the principals in a municipal election campaign that led to civil rights complaints alleging attempts to suppress minority votes. The case cost an insurance firm some $600,000 to settle. Now that those people campaign for Cunningham, there's no mention by the administration of these past complaints. There are many reasons for the HCDO and Cunningham to be fighting - the desire to control patronage and contracts; the reluctance of most of the other mayors in the county to let any mayor of Jersey City of any color impose his will upon the county political apparatus; plain old ego. Cunningham maintains he wants only his fair share. The HCDO says it's willing to give him a fair share. What are the chances of agreeing on what is a fair share? Meanwhile, the invective goes on. There's no question that racism exists and should be exposed. But equating any or all anti-Cunningham sentiment or activity with racism is disingenuous, if not outright dishonest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Woozy Red Card posted Message 1058 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 08, 2003 at 00:24:25 Subject: Re: The red card So it OK for political leaders to act against the will of the electorate when votes have been cast and the political leaders are crooks. Especially taking away the poor and minority rigths of the community. So they are so powerful and corrupt they can hand out red cards without any law governing them. This my friend is tryanny and will not stand the ill wind of the publics rath. Polite as the red card expression maybe it is against the rights of humanity to have their dignity stolen by some greedy member of the HCDO or the Governor himself. Count the days before a recall shall come upon their doorsteps and they will answer to those that have the power the people. This nation has shed to much blood for liberty to allow some sniveling twerp define a red card in any political forum you have the right to speak your mind but it is utter nonsense and foolish for us the legal entity of the people to believe we must accept corruption under the vail of good behavior since the rule book is rigged with the usurping of our rights. WE the PEOPLE will not rest until a order of dignity is restored. : Glenn's Red Card : In basketball it is called a technical foul. In baseball, it's the umpire giving one the heave-ho. Football has personal fouls. And in soccer, it's the red card. When a player on the field causes such disruption as to cause the referee to stop play and cause the player to be removed from the game. It's the ultimate penalty – its when the referee says to a player no more. It comes after such a foul that could cause the game itself to be fundamentally changed. : For Jersey City Mayor GLENN CUNNINGHAM, some state Democratic leaders are saying, it may be time for the red card. : Cunningham, who became Jersey City's first African American Mayor two years ago, has become one of the most mercurial leaders in the state. In the short period of two years, he has alienated the very political allies that put him into office, engaged in a petty fight with the local Congressman, angered local and state Democrats, and has fought with pretty much everybody on the other side of Newark Bay. Cunningham even compared Menendez to a "political terrorist" in the immediate aftermath of September 11th, where residents of Cunningham's city were killed. Many political observers thought that Cunningham was making dumb, but rookie, mistakes. : Many political observers saw Cunningham's actions as the sign of a one term mayor. : But this June, Cunningham seemed to gain the upper hand. After a very hard fought campaign, Cunningham, was nominated for the State Senate, defeating party endorsed candidate and Jersey City Council President L. HARVEY SMITH by an eight point margin. The margin helped defeat long time Assemblyman JOSEPH DORIA and Assemblywoman ELBA PEREZ-CINCIARELLI by Bayonne Councilman ANTHONY CHIAPPONE and former Hudson County Freeholder LOUIS MANZO. The sweep seemed complete as Cunningham emerged with one of the most powerful tools in New Jersey politics – senatorial courtesy. : But Cunningham appears completely unable to be a good winner. In fact, since the June primary, Cunningham may well be on his way to Worst Winner of the Year. Since the primary, Cunningham has taunted Gov. JAMES E. MCGREEVEY, challenged State Democratic Chairwoman BONNIE WATSON COLEMAN (whom he called "Aunt Bonnie," -- a term offensive to African Americans), attacked fellow Hudson County Democrats, and raised the specter of the Ku Klux Klan. : : The HCDO filed suit last week, alleging that Cunningham's team was aided by contributions from several political action committees that far exceeded the $36,000 limit prescribed by law. The county party also submitted what they claim is evidence gleaned from an extensive review of voting records that shows illegal voter participation in the primary that might have altered the results of each race. The HCDO has said its goal is to overturn the results of the primary. Under such a scenario, the party's county committee would then pick new candidates. : : Two Hudson Democratic sources says that the organization is confident enough in their ability to deliver margins in other parts of the county that they are willing to publicly reveal longtime tactics used to manipulate votes in Jersey City. If that's accurate, it ought to be quite a show. : : It is Cunningham's recent actions that have political insiders wondering about his own stability. In recent days, Cunningham supporters have attacked State Senator BERNARD KENNY, the Hudson County Democratic Chairman, by invoking a 40-year-old issue regarding Kenny's late father in an effort to damage his reputation. Then Cunningham accused Congressman ROBERT MENENDEZ, of being a racist and said that the actions of the Hudson Democrats were little different than those of the Klan. That's a tough sell, even in the rough-and-tumble of Hudson County politics. : : Cunningham's attempt to play the race card against the organization has little credibility. The HCDO helped Charles become the first African American State Senator from Hudson County, backed the late JANET HAYNES for County Clerk, and Cunningham himself was the beneficiary of organization support in the 2001 mayoral race. If anything, the June primary was a net loss for minorities: Perez-Cinciarelli, an Hispanic woman, will be replaced in the State Assembly by a white male. : Finally, on Tuesday evening, Cunningham led a demonstration at Menendez' office and again saying that Menendez was insufficiently understanding of black voters. Menendez fired back immediately saying that Cunningham's actions were way outside the mainstream of politics. Cunningham's Assembly running mate, Manzo, says he might challenge Menendez next year for Congress. : A number of Statehouse observers are stunned by Cunningham's actions. After winning the Senate nomination, Cunningham seemed to have the potential of enormous political strength. But not less than two months later, Cunningham seems to have backed himself into a corner by challenging Menendez, the member of Congress with one of the single largest campaign war chests in the country -- nearly $3 million. Cunningham was in the position to demand peace in Hudson County; now he has seemingly crossed the Rubicon, there can no peace between Menendez and Cunningham. : Caught in the middle are state Democrat leaders. For McGreevey, he is loathe to cross the powerful Menendez, whose political reach extends outside the borders of his four-county congressional district -- despite some very public feuding in recent months. In addition, Watson Coleman is said to be gravely concerned about Cunningham's rather public flirtation with Republican Senate Co-President JOHN BENNETT, including a very well noticed lunch last week in Jersey City. And Cunningham has forged a strong political alliance with former Newark mayoral candidate CORY BOOKER, whose law firm gets considerable Jersey City work -- Cunningham is expected to attend a fundraiser for Booker's 2006 campaign for Mayor at the Ridgewood home of attorney VICTOR HERLINKSY. This won't help Cunningham get along with another big city Mayor/State Senator: Booker foe SHARPE JAMES. : The Mayor of Jersey City seems to be doing everything he can to preclude peace. By attacking Kenny's family, calling Menendez a racist and a terrorist, and by dancing with the Republicans, Cunningham seems to be insisting on a total victory, defined presumably by the removal of Menendez from Congress. An highly unlikely event. : Cunningham may well end up winning some political battles, but many New Jersey political observers are feeling that he is not playing well with others and needs a red card. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Corruption Crooks posted Message 1059 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 08, 2003 at 00:38:21 Subject: Re: The pot calling the kettle........................ The actions of the politicians are racist regardless of race since their corrupt actions impact the African American Community the hardest and since they are a specific target of this corruption that constitutes racism by definition. Focusing in on Cunningham and red carding hsi efforts to end corruption because it directly impacts the African American Community as well as Hudson County at large is also racism. You are suggesting that they have the ability to red card based on Cunningham offending a corrupt regime. Honest people tend to offend the corrupt but are you so blind or politically correct to believe that we should accept their corruption as some illness like chicken pox and their eventual treatment will render them cured? Really the obtuse nature of your statements are fairly odd considering the HCDO is stealing from you as well unless you are one of them. Please do not insult our honor or dignity any longer we are the sons and daughters of the those that died for liberty it is our birth right as well as freedom. Glenn Cunnigham has stopped the corruption and his efforts must continue for the children of the children of liberty. This is a Holy War for Liberty against the tryanny of the HCDO and a battle for all the people hurt by corrupt politicians everywhere we are the hope of a new day. We stand at a cross road shall we settle or carry on the fight shall we grow tired of the struggle I say no carry on we do not know what may come of our efforts but we do know what evil miserable lives we will have if we stop the struggle against those that steal our birth right of freedom against all enemies both foreign and domestic the HCDO is a domestic enemy that must be stopped Cunningham by moving ahead with the dream carries us all to that new day not back into a dark world of unequal treatment for some and priviledge for others. Support Glenn Cunningham his work is just. : The last time we looked, Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith was still African-American and Assemblywoman Elba Perez-Cinciarelli of Jersey City was still a Latina. : Yet their continuing court challenges to the results of the June Democratic primary in the 31st Legislative District are continually labeled as racist actions by opponents, particularly Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. : : Cunningham defeated Smith for the Democratic nomination for state Senate. His running mates, Bayonne Councilman Anthony Chiappone and former Hudson County Freeholder Louis Manzo of Jersey City, defeated Perez-Cinciarelli and Assemblyman Joseph V. Doria Jr., who is also mayor of Bayonne. : Smith, Perez-Cinciarelli and Doria were the candidates of the Hudson County Democratic Organization, and they're now in court trying to void the results. They allege voter fraud and illegal campaign spending. : It may be a grasping at straws. It may be an attempt, as the Cunningham team charges, to "steal" an election through the courts that they couldn't win at the polls. Maybe the HCDO has a case. It spent more than $1 million on a losing campaign, so what's another $100,000 or so to go to court? : But is it racism? : In this case, Cunningham argues that the challenge involves the mostly African-American portion of the district. But racism's a charge Jersey City's first African-American mayor and his allies have never been shy of employing in the 11/2 years that Cunningham has been battling with the HCDO leadership. : Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, has been a particular Cunningham target, but he has plenty of company. Even Gov. James E. McGreevey has been included because of his support of HCDO candidates and his subsequent refusal to intervene on behalf of Cunningham as the legal battle continues. : Numerous other opponents, or people who just disagree with the mayor on issues, have been labeled as racist by the Cunningham camp - including this newspaper because it didn't endorse him for mayor two years ago or for Senate this year. African-Americans like Smith who oppose Cunningham are called traitors to their race. : Is Smith any less African-American because he ran against Cunningham instead of supporting him? Why is dumping a Latina elected official in favor of an Italian-American male any less racially motivated than challenging Cunningham? : If the results were overturned, wouldn't Smith and Perez-Cinciarelli be the beneficiaries? Would that be racism? : It's also no small irony that Cunningham has surrounded himself with advisers who in the past he criticized for their attempts to thwart minority voters - and, in fact, were the principals in a municipal election campaign that led to civil rights complaints alleging attempts to suppress minority votes. The case cost an insurance firm some $600,000 to settle. : Now that those people campaign for Cunningham, there's no mention by the administration of these past complaints. : There are many reasons for the HCDO and Cunningham to be fighting - the desire to control patronage and contracts; the reluctance of most of the other mayors in the county to let any mayor of Jersey City of any color impose his will upon the county political apparatus; plain old ego. : Cunningham maintains he wants only his fair share. The HCDO says it's willing to give him a fair share. What are the chances of agreeing on what is a fair share? Meanwhile, the invective goes on. : There's no question that racism exists and should be exposed. But equating any or all anti-Cunningham sentiment or activity with racism is disingenuous, if not outright dishonest. : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Molly posted Message 1060 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 08, 2003 at 07:13:18 Subject: Re: The pot calling the kettle........................ You don't really believe the crap you write, do you? : The actions of the politicians are racist regardless of race since their corrupt actions impact the African American Community the hardest and since they are a specific target of this corruption that constitutes racism by definition. Focusing in on Cunningham and red carding hsi efforts to end corruption because it directly impacts the African American Community as well as Hudson County at large is also racism. You are suggesting that they have the ability to red card based on Cunningham offending a corrupt regime. Honest people tend to offend the corrupt but are you so blind or politically correct to believe that we should accept their corruption as some illness like chicken pox and their eventual treatment will render them cured? Really the obtuse nature of your statements are fairly odd considering the HCDO is stealing from you as well unless you are one of them. Please do not insult our honor or dignity any longer we are the sons and daughters of the those that died for liberty it is our birth right as well as freedom. Glenn Cunnigham has stopped the corruption and his efforts must continue for the children of the children of liberty. This is a Holy War for Liberty against the tryanny of the HCDO and a battle for all the people hurt by corrupt politicians everywhere we are the hope of a new day. We stand at a cross road shall we settle or carry on the fight shall we grow tired of the struggle I say no carry on we do not know what may come of our efforts but we do know what evil miserable lives we will have if we stop the struggle against those that steal our birth right of freedom against all enemies both foreign and domestic the HCDO is a domestic enemy that must be stopped Cunningham by moving ahead with the dream carries us all to that new day not back into a dark world of unequal treatment for some and priviledge for others. Support Glenn Cunningham his work is just. : : : The last time we looked, Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith was still African-American and Assemblywoman Elba Perez-Cinciarelli of Jersey City was still a Latina. : : Yet their continuing court challenges to the results of the June Democratic primary in the 31st Legislative District are continually labeled as racist actions by opponents, particularly Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. : : : : Cunningham defeated Smith for the Democratic nomination for state Senate. His running mates, Bayonne Councilman Anthony Chiappone and former Hudson County Freeholder Louis Manzo of Jersey City, defeated Perez-Cinciarelli and Assemblyman Joseph V. Doria Jr., who is also mayor of Bayonne. : : Smith, Perez-Cinciarelli and Doria were the candidates of the Hudson County Democratic Organization, and they're now in court trying to void the results. They allege voter fraud and illegal campaign spending. : : It may be a grasping at straws. It may be an attempt, as the Cunningham team charges, to "steal" an election through the courts that they couldn't win at the polls. Maybe the HCDO has a case. It spent more than $1 million on a losing campaign, so what's another $100,000 or so to go to court? : : But is it racism? : : In this case, Cunningham argues that the challenge involves the mostly African-American portion of the district. But racism's a charge Jersey City's first African-American mayor and his allies have never been shy of employing in the 11/2 years that Cunningham has been battling with the HCDO leadership. : : Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, has been a particular Cunningham target, but he has plenty of company. Even Gov. James E. McGreevey has been included because of his support of HCDO candidates and his subsequent refusal to intervene on behalf of Cunningham as the legal battle continues. : : Numerous other opponents, or people who just disagree with the mayor on issues, have been labeled as racist by the Cunningham camp - including this newspaper because it didn't endorse him for mayor two years ago or for Senate this year. African-Americans like Smith who oppose Cunningham are called traitors to their race. : : Is Smith any less African-American because he ran against Cunningham instead of supporting him? Why is dumping a Latina elected official in favor of an Italian-American male any less racially motivated than challenging Cunningham? : : If the results were overturned, wouldn't Smith and Perez-Cinciarelli be the beneficiaries? Would that be racism? : : It's also no small irony that Cunningham has surrounded himself with advisers who in the past he criticized for their attempts to thwart minority voters - and, in fact, were the principals in a municipal election campaign that led to civil rights complaints alleging attempts to suppress minority votes. The case cost an insurance firm some $600,000 to settle. : : Now that those people campaign for Cunningham, there's no mention by the administration of these past complaints. : : There are many reasons for the HCDO and Cunningham to be fighting - the desire to control patronage and contracts; the reluctance of most of the other mayors in the county to let any mayor of Jersey City of any color impose his will upon the county political apparatus; plain old ego. : : Cunningham maintains he wants only his fair share. The HCDO says it's willing to give him a fair share. What are the chances of agreeing on what is a fair share? Meanwhile, the invective goes on. : : There's no question that racism exists and should be exposed. But equating any or all anti-Cunningham sentiment or activity with racism is disingenuous, if not outright dishonest. : : : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Baghdad On The Hudson posted Message 1061 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 08, 2003 at 08:31:03 Subject: HCDO feels enough questionable ballots will turn up to call the results into doubt . . . Javier Inclan, the HCDO's executive director, said most of the people on the list will undoubtedly check out as legitimate voters, but his organization feels enough questionable ballots will turn up to call the results into doubt. Inclan said so many names were submitted because the people checking on the signatures wrote down the name of anyone whose signature "looked a little bit off." Sources familiar with the challenge say the HCDO used volunteers - many from Bayonne and therefore not as familiar with the names of prominent Jersey City residents - to comb through the election books examining signatures. . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 1062 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 08, 2003 at 08:52:44 Subject: EXTREME HEALTH CARE MANAGEMENT-GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER: Urban Times News Steven Glazer, E-mail: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** WARD Freedom posted Message 1063 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 08, 2003 at 09:32:57 Subject: WARD Freedom shall not be denied its rights Stop the HCDO JIm Crow Policies Diginity, Equality, and Freedom the people of Ward F demand the racist stop questioning our intent which was legally cast in a vote for Glenn Cunningham not the Corruption of the HCDO. Jim Crow Laws still being used against Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Outrage of Racism posted Message 1064 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 08, 2003 at 09:48:18 Subject: Nice White People contribute to Ward F's slavery Denial of the right to vote is a form of slavery nothing more or nothing less. After all these years the surface of a politically correct nice white world shows its evil side racism is slavery. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Refuse to contribute to the HCDO's slavery of Ward F posted Message 1065 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 08, 2003 at 09:51:41 Subject: Ward F needs to be freed from the corruption of the HCDO Stop the HCDO and their enslavement of Ward F. Plantation Politics are not acceptable. The price of Freedom is presenting those that love it a bill. Pay the bill of Freedom stop the HCDO's war against Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE TRUTH! posted Message 1066 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 08, 2003 at 11:21:32 Subject: Re: Ward F needs to be freed from the corruption of the HCDO THIS IS THE BIGGEST CROCK OF BULL. THE HCDO WERE THE GROUP WHO FOUND AND SUPPORTED CUNNINGHAM FOR MAYOR. THE HCDO ARE THE ONES WHO BROKE THE GLASS CEILING MAKING CUNNINGHAM THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN MAYOR IN THE HISTORY OF JERSEY CITY. HOW QUICKLY THEY FORGET THIS. THE HCDO MADE CUNNINGHAM, WITHOUT THEM DEGISE WOULD HAVE BEEN MAYOR. CUNNINGHAM USES THE RACE CARD FOR HIS PERSONNAL GAIN, END OF DISSCUSSION! ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE TRUTH posted Message 1067 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 08, 2003 at 11:22:59 Subject: Re: Nice White People contribute to Ward F's slavery SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT ...ARE YOU CLAIMING THAT WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE PROBLEM? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why can't we all just get along? posted Message 1068 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 08, 2003 at 16:27:50 Subject: Unite do not divide The HCDO serves it purpose and fighting will not solve anything. We need to unite and stop fighting we are all Democrats the party of the big tent. We are many and may disagree but in the end we must unite. Well that is a load of bull HCDO stop the corruption or leave office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Janis Joplin posted Message 1069 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2003 at 09:09:10 Subject: MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR! PEACE ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yeah Groovy Baby posted Message 1070 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2003 at 19:53:50 Subject: Re: MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR! Peace and love for all. : PEACE ***************** End Of Article ****************** JonBoy posted Message 1071 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2003 at 20:39:20 Subject: Imagine Imagine there´s no Heaven, it´s easy if you try. No Hell below us, above us only sky. Imagine all the people living for today. Imagine there´s no countries, it isn´t hard to do nothing to kill or die for and no religion, too. Imagine no possessions, I wonder if you can no need for greed or hunger, a brotherhood of man... ...sharing all the world. You may say I´m a dreamer, but I´m not the only one I hope someday you´ll join us and the world will be this one... ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1072 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2003 at 21:06:15 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SAY SO LONG WE ARE NOT COMING BACK! posted Message 1073 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2003 at 23:01:17 Subject: TO ALL WHO VIEW THIS SITE Let me tell you all where it is at here on good old GETNJ. Today a few of us did a test to see where "A.O." head was. This is the results we posted words from peace songs sweet, nice, political peace songs( even checked with ASCAP to make sure no copy right infringements and yes,it was all okay.) The reason why this was done was to see if the Site owner whose name I will not post is objective or one sided. The posts, we did.."Imagine" by the Beatles "Give Peace a chance" etc. etc... were all deleted. Unlike the 3 people posting we all care very much about JC and want peace.You A.O. once did but you sold your soul and BTW I am a Schundler fan. Therefore, my goal is not to protect Cunningham or Menendez. So the outcome of our little test is this is just a one sided non-objective site. I am out of here and so are the 350 people who are on the neighborhood association’s mailing list. You see this conjured up by many to see if this was true. (yes a few people did not get the heads up so they would not let it out.) Therefore, as of this posting this site just lost a whole lot of Jersey City people. You own this site you pay for it and you do what you want...Your happy you had so many visitors well you just lost a chunk. Enjoy fighting with yourself we are all out of here….see ya! ***************** End Of Article ****************** S posted Message 1074 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2003 at 23:18:37 Subject: Re: Definition : rac·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm) : n. : The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. : Discrimination or prejudice based on race. CRYING RACISM FOR DEEPER POCKETS.. THATS PRICELESS! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1075 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 06:00:57 Subject: Re: TO ALL WHO VIEW THIS SITE All -- at least relatively sane and/or coherent -- points of view concerning Hudson County Politics are welcome . On the other hand, ALL OFF TOPIC POSTS WILL BE DELETED! The lyrics and titles of Beatles/ex-Beatle songs are good examples! Over 3,000 people (individuals, not hits) visit GET NJ every day. : Let me tell you all where it is at here on good old GETNJ. : Today a few of us did a test to see where "A.O." head was. : This is the results we posted words from peace songs sweet, nice, political peace songs( even checked with ASCAP to make sure no copy right infringements and yes,it was all okay.) : The reason why this was done was to see if the Site owner whose name I will not post is objective or one sided. The posts, we did.."Imagine" by the Beatles "Give Peace a chance" etc. etc... were all deleted. Unlike the 3 people posting we all care very much about JC and want peace.You A.O. once did but you sold your soul and BTW I am a Schundler fan. Therefore, my goal is not to protect Cunningham or Menendez. : So the outcome of our little test is this is just a one sided non-objective site. I am out of here and so are the 350 people who are on the neighborhood association’s mailing list. : You see this conjured up by many to see if this was true. (yes a few people did not get the heads up so they would not let it out.) : Therefore, as of this posting this site just lost a whole lot of Jersey City people. You own this site you pay for it and you do what you want...Your happy you had so many visitors well you just lost a chunk. : Enjoy fighting with yourself we are all out of here….see ya! : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thanks For Hosting It posted Message 1076 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 07:40:09 Subject: I Enjoy This Site I truly enjoy this site ........ THANK YOU TO WHOEVER YOU ARE WHO CREATED IT. I don't know what the heck this jaded fool who made the original post is talking about. : Let me tell you all where it is at here on good old GETNJ. : Today a few of us did a test to see where "A.O." head was. : This is the results we posted words from peace songs sweet, nice, political peace songs( even checked with ASCAP to make sure no copy right infringements and yes,it was all okay.) : The reason why this was done was to see if the Site owner whose name I will not post is objective or one sided. The posts, we did.."Imagine" by the Beatles "Give Peace a chance" etc. etc... were all deleted. Unlike the 3 people posting we all care very much about JC and want peace.You A.O. once did but you sold your soul and BTW I am a Schundler fan. Therefore, my goal is not to protect Cunningham or Menendez. : So the outcome of our little test is this is just a one sided non-objective site. I am out of here and so are the 350 people who are on the neighborhood association’s mailing list. : You see this conjured up by many to see if this was true. (yes a few people did not get the heads up so they would not let it out.) : Therefore, as of this posting this site just lost a whole lot of Jersey City people. You own this site you pay for it and you do what you want...Your happy you had so many visitors well you just lost a chunk. : Enjoy fighting with yourself we are all out of here….see ya! : ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1077 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 08:44:06 Subject: READ THE FORBIDDEN POSTS!!! My initial impression was that someone placed the first message as a lark, but that it was generating -- like graffiti -- more off topic posts. I was more than a little surprised to read the claim that this was some sort of stab at a coordinated effort. I'm still not quite sure, is SAY SO LONG WE ARE NOT COMING BACK! stating that this action was by (or on behalf of) a neighborhood organization? Is this a secret society? Why not identify yourself and your group? Were all of the 350 members asked to post here and only three did so? The purpose of this Message Board is to provide a vehicle so that people can express their opinions/observations (anonymously, if they so desire) on Hudson County Politics -- AND to be able to see what others think: a conversation. Anybody who attempts to flood the Board (in effect, denying others the opportunity to post), will find their messages deleted. By the way, my only agenda, as a resident of Jersey City, is that I want what's best for Jersey City. Below you'll find the VERBOTEN "thread." Let me know what you think: * * * Janis Joplin Dated : August 09, 2003 at 09:09:10 Subject: MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR! PEACE * * * Yeah Groovy Baby Dated : August 09, 2003 at 19:53:50 Subject: Re: MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR! Peace and love for all. : PEACE * * * JonBoy Dated : August 09, 2003 at 20:39:20 Subject: Imagine Imagine there´s no Heaven, it´s easy if you try. ... (More lyrics from John Lennon's song, "Imagine," appeared in the original. As I'm neither an attorney, nor in communication with licensing organizations, I'm following my understanding that it's not appropriate to reproduce the words of popular music. Editor.) : Let me tell you all where it is at here on good old GETNJ. : Today a few of us did a test to see where "A.O." head was. : This is the results we posted words from peace songs sweet, nice, political peace songs( even checked with ASCAP to make sure no copy right infringements and yes,it was all okay.) : The reason why this was done was to see if the Site owner whose name I will not post is objective or one sided. The posts, we did.."Imagine" by the Beatles "Give Peace a chance" etc. etc... were all deleted. Unlike the 3 people posting we all care very much about JC and want peace.You A.O. once did but you sold your soul and BTW I am a Schundler fan. Therefore, my goal is not to protect Cunningham or Menendez. : So the outcome of our little test is this is just a one sided non-objective site. I am out of here and so are the 350 people who are on the neighborhood association’s mailing list. : You see this conjured up by many to see if this was true. (yes a few people did not get the heads up so they would not let it out.) : Therefore, as of this posting this site just lost a whole lot of Jersey City people. You own this site you pay for it and you do what you want...Your happy you had so many visitors well you just lost a chunk. : Enjoy fighting with yourself we are all out of here….see ya! : ***************** End Of Article ****************** YOU DO THE MATH posted Message 1078 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 08:49:03 Subject: Re: TO ALL WHO VIEW THIS SITE 3000 people = Steven Glazer-965 times per day Martin Jackson- 203 times per day Stan Eason -423 times per day Bobby Jackson-15x- checking up on steven Glazer- Anthony 1394 times so he can tell the UTN "they like me...they really really like me!" YUP, I SEE HOW THAT HADS UP TO 3000 PEOPLE PER DAY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Curious posted Message 1079 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 08:54:19 Subject: Re: READ THE FORBIDDEN POSTS!!! Come on Anthony do you really think we are that stupid..You allow Steven Glazer to flood this forum sometimes 17 messages one after the other. Don't make this statement if you do not stand behind it. YOU SAId:.............to be able to see what others think: a conversation. Anybody who attempts to flood the Board (in effect, denying others the opportunity to post), will find their messages deleted. SO WHEN WILL YOU START LIVING BY THESE WORDS? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fair is fair posted Message 1080 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 09:23:55 Subject: Re: I Enjoy This Site Yes,I agree it truly is a great site. But, this forum has become the place to promote Bobby Jacksons agenda, making it not the views of the people but a tool to make more money for Bobby and Joe $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Getnj has the UTN hit you up for ads yet! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Example of the flooding that is allowed to stay posted. posted Message 1081 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 09:30:16 Subject: Re: READ THE FORBIDDEN POSTS!!! STOP THE EVIL OF RACISM STOP THE HCDO - GOD'S MESSENGER 09:19:39 08/03/03 (0) GOD WANTS YOU TO STOP THE EVIL OF CORRUPTION - GOD'S LOVE 09:18:14 08/03/03 (0) CUNNINGHAM IS GOD'S CANDIDATE - STOP CORRUPTION 09:16:56 08/03/03 (0) WE NEED TO STOP CORRUPTION SUPPORT CUNNINGHAM - STOP CORRUPTION 09:15:31 08/03/03 (0) NO CORRUPTION HOPE OF A BETTER DAY - HOPE OF A BETTER DAY 09:14:10 08/03/03 (0) THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE FOR HONEST GOVERNMENT - THIS IS BIGGER THAN ALL OF US 09:12:54 08/03/03 (0) MAY PEACE BE THE OUTCOME OF THIS FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION - PEACE TO THE PEOPLE OF HUDSON COUNTY 09:11:02 08/03/03 (0) HCDO WILL SELL THE ORGANIZATION TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER - FOR SALE CORRUPT POLITICAL ORGANIZATION 09:09:05 08/03/03 (0) GLENN CUNNINGHAM FOR GOVENOR - VICTIM OF CORRUPTION 09:07:19 08/03/03 (0) GROWTH SECTOR - STOP CORRUPTION 09:05:36 08/03/03 (0) LET YOUR FELLOW CORRUPTION PARTNERS DO YOUR TIME - WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE 09:02:22 08/03/03 (0) STING OPERATIONS ARE GROWING - WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE 09:00:52 08/03/03 (0) DEALING WITH THE FEDERAL WITNESS PROTECTION - WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE 08:58:22 08/03/03 (0) PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST FAMILY - DORIA CRYS FOWL 08:55:53 08/03/03 (0) ROBBED BY THE HCDO - THE POOR TAXPAYER ROBBED 08:54:07 08/03/03 (0) STOP FIDEL MENENDEZ - MENENDEZ THE EVIL BEHIND THE HCDO 08:52:40 08/03/03 (0) RODNEY - WHY CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG 08:51:07 08/03/03 (0) I HAD A DREAM - I HAD A DREAM 08:49:31 08/03/03 (0) A PRAYER FOR ALL THOSE THAT SUFFER FROM CORRUPTION - TO ALL THOSE THAT SUFFER FROM CORRUPTION 08:48:01 08/03/03 (0) LOVE OF GOD, COUNTRY, AND FREEDOM - LOVE OF FREEDOM WILL RECALL THE HCDO 08:46:19 08/03/03 (0) THE ELDERLY NEED THE SERVICES STOLEN BY CORRUPTION - THE ELDERLY NEED THE SERVICES ROBBED BY CORRUPTION 08:44:31 08/03/03 (0) HOW CAN A PROPER SYSTEM OF EDUCATION BE PROVIDED - CHILDREN NEED A FUTURE THAT IS BEING ROBBED BY THE HCDO 08:41:37 08/03/03 (0) VICTIMS OF CRIME THE PEOPLE - JERSEY CITY VICTIM OF CRIME HCDO HAS MUGGED THE PEOPLE 08:39:28 08/03/03 (0) STOP CORRUPTION SUPPORT GLENN CUNNINGHAM - STOPPING CORRUPTION IN HUDSON COUNTY 08:37:49 08/03/03 (0) AS STEVIES MOMMY STOP CORRUPTION - STEVIES MOMMY HATES CORRUPTION 08:36:14 08/03/03 (0) WHILE A RECALL MAY NOT HAPPEN BEFORE A TRIAL - RESTORE OUR DIGINITY RECALL 08:33:40 08/03/03 (0) IT IS WRONG TO STEAL FROM THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY - NO IT IS NOT OK TO STEAL FROM THE PEOPLE 08:32:17 08/03/03 (0) HCDO OUTRAGE OF RACISM - HCDO OUTRAGE OF RACISM 07:38:49 08/03/03 (0) NO RECALL SEND THE POOR CRIMINALS A CARTON OF SMOKES - FORGET THE RECALL YOU CAN NOT RUN FOR OFFICE IN PRISON 07:35:32 08/03/03 (0) ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1082 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 09:58:27 Subject: HCDO Still Doesn't Get It! The 3000 figure is given as an average. The record is over 4,200 visitors in one day. And that's for GET NJ alone, not counting the dozens of subsidiary Sites. - - - Funny thing though, HCDO/HCDO candidates/the County, none of them bother to send me press releases, announcements, or media alerts. - - - The HCDO bunch still don't get it. I write what I see. The people of Jersey City look around them and vote on that basis. You'd think by now the HCDO would at least start to figger that their message doesn't pass the sniff test and needs the lysol treatment. Nah, nah, the HCDO is running a regular posy parade, right? The Urban Times News, now that's gotta be the problem! - - - And here's my observation for today guys. You're rowing as fast as you can up the proverbial creek. If you invalidate an election via legal pirouette, Hades is gonna send you one whopper of an invoice. And this one the DNC ain't gonna like. One possibility is Nader setting up shop on Jersey Avenue. From there, the Light Rail goes all through Greenville, Downtown and Hoboken. PATH/NYC subway give you the City. How will the history books write it? HCDO blighted the Democrats in the New York Metro area? And if you lose? A good slice of Bayonne got sliced off -- what's next? Glenn et al. still seem to think that the wagons are circled up in the Heights. Is that so? If you do a pub crawl here in the frosty north, what's everybody saying? Is the Urban Times News poisoning their minds, too! : 3000 people = Steven Glazer-965 times per day : Martin Jackson- 203 times per day : Stan Eason -423 times per day : Bobby Jackson-15x- checking up on steven Glazer- : Anthony 1394 times so he can tell the UTN "they like me...they really really like me!" : YUP, I SEE HOW THAT HADS UP TO 3000 PEOPLE PER DAY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1083 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 10:01:23 Subject: Re: READ THE FORBIDDEN POSTS!!! That individual's repetitive posts resulted in a 24 hour lock out for them -- and the current flooding policy. : : STOP THE EVIL OF RACISM STOP THE HCDO - GOD'S MESSENGER 09:19:39 08/03/03 (0) : GOD WANTS YOU TO STOP THE EVIL OF CORRUPTION - GOD'S LOVE 09:18:14 08/03/03 (0) : CUNNINGHAM IS GOD'S CANDIDATE - STOP CORRUPTION 09:16:56 08/03/03 (0) : WE NEED TO STOP CORRUPTION SUPPORT CUNNINGHAM - STOP CORRUPTION 09:15:31 08/03/03 (0) : NO CORRUPTION HOPE OF A BETTER DAY - HOPE OF A BETTER DAY 09:14:10 08/03/03 (0) : THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE FOR HONEST GOVERNMENT - THIS IS BIGGER THAN ALL OF US 09:12:54 08/03/03 (0) : MAY PEACE BE THE OUTCOME OF THIS FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION - PEACE TO THE PEOPLE OF HUDSON COUNTY 09:11:02 08/03/03 (0) : HCDO WILL SELL THE ORGANIZATION TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER - FOR SALE CORRUPT POLITICAL ORGANIZATION 09:09:05 08/03/03 (0) : GLENN CUNNINGHAM FOR GOVENOR - VICTIM OF CORRUPTION 09:07:19 08/03/03 (0) : GROWTH SECTOR - STOP CORRUPTION 09:05:36 08/03/03 (0) : LET YOUR FELLOW CORRUPTION PARTNERS DO YOUR TIME - WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE 09:02:22 08/03/03 (0) : STING OPERATIONS ARE GROWING - WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE 09:00:52 08/03/03 (0) : DEALING WITH THE FEDERAL WITNESS PROTECTION - WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE 08:58:22 08/03/03 (0) : PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST FAMILY - DORIA CRYS FOWL 08:55:53 08/03/03 (0) : ROBBED BY THE HCDO - THE POOR TAXPAYER ROBBED 08:54:07 08/03/03 (0) : STOP FIDEL MENENDEZ - MENENDEZ THE EVIL BEHIND THE HCDO 08:52:40 08/03/03 (0) : RODNEY - WHY CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG 08:51:07 08/03/03 (0) : I HAD A DREAM - I HAD A DREAM 08:49:31 08/03/03 (0) : A PRAYER FOR ALL THOSE THAT SUFFER FROM CORRUPTION - TO ALL THOSE THAT SUFFER FROM CORRUPTION 08:48:01 08/03/03 (0) : LOVE OF GOD, COUNTRY, AND FREEDOM - LOVE OF FREEDOM WILL RECALL THE HCDO 08:46:19 08/03/03 (0) : THE ELDERLY NEED THE SERVICES STOLEN BY CORRUPTION - THE ELDERLY NEED THE SERVICES ROBBED BY CORRUPTION 08:44:31 08/03/03 (0) : HOW CAN A PROPER SYSTEM OF EDUCATION BE PROVIDED - CHILDREN NEED A FUTURE THAT IS BEING ROBBED BY THE HCDO 08:41:37 08/03/03 (0) : VICTIMS OF CRIME THE PEOPLE - JERSEY CITY VICTIM OF CRIME HCDO HAS MUGGED THE PEOPLE 08:39:28 08/03/03 (0) : STOP CORRUPTION SUPPORT GLENN CUNNINGHAM - STOPPING CORRUPTION IN HUDSON COUNTY 08:37:49 08/03/03 (0) : AS STEVIES MOMMY STOP CORRUPTION - STEVIES MOMMY HATES CORRUPTION 08:36:14 08/03/03 (0) : WHILE A RECALL MAY NOT HAPPEN BEFORE A TRIAL - RESTORE OUR DIGINITY RECALL 08:33:40 08/03/03 (0) : IT IS WRONG TO STEAL FROM THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY - NO IT IS NOT OK TO STEAL FROM THE PEOPLE 08:32:17 08/03/03 (0) : HCDO OUTRAGE OF RACISM - HCDO OUTRAGE OF RACISM 07:38:49 08/03/03 (0) : NO RECALL SEND THE POOR CRIMINALS A CARTON OF SMOKES - FORGET THE RECALL YOU CAN NOT RUN FOR OFFICE IN PRISON 07:35:32 08/03/03 (0) ***************** End Of Article ****************** In my opinion posted Message 1084 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 10:19:13 Subject: I am not an HCDOer GETNJ you have lost your objectivity. Look, we all know who you are and the relationship to Schundler you have the right to dislike the HCDO but, remember Glenn Cunningham and company were a huge part of Brett’s demise. Ask Brett’s people about the parking tickets they would get while campaigning…there is so much you are not aware of Getnj. They are using you. It is your site and I agree with the other poster, YOU OWN IT, YOU PAY FOR IT, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT... As far as the election, recall. Let us leave it up to the courts. I am not going to take a side until the evidence is presented in court by lawyers not by reporters and people posting. I am not a supporter of the HCDO so I feel my opinion is objective. I am a democrat and I hate all of this garbage posted by either side. As far as the Urban Times do some background checking on how they obtained the paper….they took it from Al Cooper a sweet man who is to poor to fight them to get his paper back, they are not qualified to receive the types of ads they do run (theft by deception) that is why the Board of Ed. Pulled out! The editor Bobby Jackson and his side kick Joe Cardwell are long time scam artists who are raping the tax payers. I am sure somehow GETNJ will be their next victim. WATCH YOUR BACK GETNJ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Downtown posted Message 1085 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 12:14:57 Subject: Re: READ THE FORBIDDEN POSTS!!! If you really did ban them for doing this I hope they will nottry to come in again to hurt the integrity of this forum. : That individual's repetitive posts resulted in a 24 hour lock out for them -- and the current flooding policy. : : : : STOP THE EVIL OF RACISM STOP THE HCDO - GOD'S MESSENGER 09:19:39 08/03/03 (0) : : GOD WANTS YOU TO STOP THE EVIL OF CORRUPTION - GOD'S LOVE 09:18:14 08/03/03 (0) : : CUNNINGHAM IS GOD'S CANDIDATE - STOP CORRUPTION 09:16:56 08/03/03 (0) : : WE NEED TO STOP CORRUPTION SUPPORT CUNNINGHAM - STOP CORRUPTION 09:15:31 08/03/03 (0) : : NO CORRUPTION HOPE OF A BETTER DAY - HOPE OF A BETTER DAY 09:14:10 08/03/03 (0) : : THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE FOR HONEST GOVERNMENT - THIS IS BIGGER THAN ALL OF US 09:12:54 08/03/03 (0) : : MAY PEACE BE THE OUTCOME OF THIS FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION - PEACE TO THE PEOPLE OF HUDSON COUNTY 09:11:02 08/03/03 (0) : : HCDO WILL SELL THE ORGANIZATION TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER - FOR SALE CORRUPT POLITICAL ORGANIZATION 09:09:05 08/03/03 (0) : : GLENN CUNNINGHAM FOR GOVENOR - VICTIM OF CORRUPTION 09:07:19 08/03/03 (0) : : GROWTH SECTOR - STOP CORRUPTION 09:05:36 08/03/03 (0) : : LET YOUR FELLOW CORRUPTION PARTNERS DO YOUR TIME - WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE 09:02:22 08/03/03 (0) : : STING OPERATIONS ARE GROWING - WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE 09:00:52 08/03/03 (0) : : DEALING WITH THE FEDERAL WITNESS PROTECTION - WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE 08:58:22 08/03/03 (0) : : PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST FAMILY - DORIA CRYS FOWL 08:55:53 08/03/03 (0) : : ROBBED BY THE HCDO - THE POOR TAXPAYER ROBBED 08:54:07 08/03/03 (0) : : STOP FIDEL MENENDEZ - MENENDEZ THE EVIL BEHIND THE HCDO 08:52:40 08/03/03 (0) : : RODNEY - WHY CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG 08:51:07 08/03/03 (0) : : I HAD A DREAM - I HAD A DREAM 08:49:31 08/03/03 (0) : : A PRAYER FOR ALL THOSE THAT SUFFER FROM CORRUPTION - TO ALL THOSE THAT SUFFER FROM CORRUPTION 08:48:01 08/03/03 (0) : : LOVE OF GOD, COUNTRY, AND FREEDOM - LOVE OF FREEDOM WILL RECALL THE HCDO 08:46:19 08/03/03 (0) : : THE ELDERLY NEED THE SERVICES STOLEN BY CORRUPTION - THE ELDERLY NEED THE SERVICES ROBBED BY CORRUPTION 08:44:31 08/03/03 (0) : : HOW CAN A PROPER SYSTEM OF EDUCATION BE PROVIDED - CHILDREN NEED A FUTURE THAT IS BEING ROBBED BY THE HCDO 08:41:37 08/03/03 (0) : : VICTIMS OF CRIME THE PEOPLE - JERSEY CITY VICTIM OF CRIME HCDO HAS MUGGED THE PEOPLE 08:39:28 08/03/03 (0) : : STOP CORRUPTION SUPPORT GLENN CUNNINGHAM - STOPPING CORRUPTION IN HUDSON COUNTY 08:37:49 08/03/03 (0) : : AS STEVIES MOMMY STOP CORRUPTION - STEVIES MOMMY HATES CORRUPTION 08:36:14 08/03/03 (0) : : WHILE A RECALL MAY NOT HAPPEN BEFORE A TRIAL - RESTORE OUR DIGINITY RECALL 08:33:40 08/03/03 (0) : : IT IS WRONG TO STEAL FROM THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY - NO IT IS NOT OK TO STEAL FROM THE PEOPLE 08:32:17 08/03/03 (0) : : HCDO OUTRAGE OF RACISM - HCDO OUTRAGE OF RACISM 07:38:49 08/03/03 (0) : : NO RECALL SEND THE POOR CRIMINALS A CARTON OF SMOKES - FORGET THE RECALL YOU CAN NOT RUN FOR OFFICE IN PRISON 07:35:32 08/03/03 (0) ***************** End Of Article ****************** By the sea posted Message 1086 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 12:29:44 Subject: Re: TO ALL WHO VIEW THIS SITE Stop trying to make Schundler into the ghost of Christmas past or something! Everybody at both 280 Grove and 595 Newark Ave knows that for over a year now Menendez has been begging Schundler to run for mayor again. The congressman guessed all along that only Bret can beat Glenn. And the county org big money buildup for Harvey sure didn't change anybody's mind to those facts. : Let me tell you all where it is at here on good old GETNJ. : Today a few of us did a test to see where "A.O." head was. : This is the results we posted words from peace songs sweet, nice, political peace songs( even checked with ASCAP to make sure no copy right infringements and yes,it was all okay.) : The reason why this was done was to see if the Site owner whose name I will not post is objective or one sided. The posts, we did.."Imagine" by the Beatles "Give Peace a chance" etc. etc... were all deleted. Unlike the 3 people posting we all care very much about JC and want peace.You A.O. once did but you sold your soul and BTW I am a Schundler fan. Therefore, my goal is not to protect Cunningham or Menendez. : So the outcome of our little test is this is just a one sided non-objective site. I am out of here and so are the 350 people who are on the neighborhood association’s mailing list. : You see this conjured up by many to see if this was true. (yes a few people did not get the heads up so they would not let it out.) : Therefore, as of this posting this site just lost a whole lot of Jersey City people. You own this site you pay for it and you do what you want...Your happy you had so many visitors well you just lost a chunk. : Enjoy fighting with yourself we are all out of here….see ya! : ***************** End Of Article ****************** patomelia posted Message 1087 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 12:40:42 Subject: Re: TO ALL WHO VIEW THIS SITE : Let me tell you all where it is at here on good old GETNJ. : Today a few of us did a test to see where "A.O." head was. : This is the results we posted words from peace songs sweet, nice, political peace songs( even checked with ASCAP to make sure no copy right infringements and yes,it was all okay.) : The reason why this was done was to see if the Site owner whose name I will not post is objective or one sided. The posts, we did.."Imagine" by the Beatles "Give Peace a chance" etc. etc... were all deleted. Unlike the 3 people posting we all care very much about JC and want peace.You A.O. once did but you sold your soul and BTW I am a Schundler fan. Therefore, my goal is not to protect Cunningham or Menendez. : So the outcome of our little test is this is just a one sided non-objective site. I am out of here and so are the 350 people who are on the neighborhood association’s mailing list. : You see this conjured up by many to see if this was true. (yes a few people did not get the heads up so they would not let it out.) : Therefore, as of this posting this site just lost a whole lot of Jersey City people. You own this site you pay for it and you do what you want...Your happy you had so many visitors well you just lost a chunk. : Enjoy fighting with yourself we are all out of here….see ya! : Not only doe's "AO" delete postings here, he puts that damn radio show on here!!! i think "AO" is evil...evil i say!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ProcterGamble posted Message 1088 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 12:48:42 Subject: Re: TO ALL WHO VIEW THIS SITE : : Let me tell you all where it is at here on good old GETNJ. : : Today a few of us did a test to see where "A.O." head was. : : This is the results we posted words from peace songs sweet, nice, political peace songs( even checked with ASCAP to make sure no copy right infringements and yes,it was all okay.) : : The reason why this was done was to see if the Site owner whose name I will not post is objective or one sided. The posts, we did.."Imagine" by the Beatles "Give Peace a chance" etc. etc... were all deleted. Unlike the 3 people posting we all care very much about JC and want peace.You A.O. once did but you sold your soul and BTW I am a Schundler fan. Therefore, my goal is not to protect Cunningham or Menendez. : : So the outcome of our little test is this is just a one sided non-objective site. I am out of here and so are the 350 people who are on the neighborhood association’s mailing list. : : You see this conjured up by many to see if this was true. (yes a few people did not get the heads up so they would not let it out.) : : Therefore, as of this posting this site just lost a whole lot of Jersey City people. You own this site you pay for it and you do what you want...Your happy you had so many visitors well you just lost a chunk. : : Enjoy fighting with yourself we are all out of here….see ya! : : : Not only doe's "AO" delete postings here, he puts that damn radio show on here!!! i think "AO" is evil...evil i say!!!!! Just check out those initials, thats ALPHA OMEGA. Probably the ANTI-CHRIST! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Downtown posted Message 1089 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 15:39:31 Subject: Re: READ THE FORBIDDEN POSTS!!! Then why did you allow their post to remain? In your previous post you said: AND to be able to see what others think: a conversation. Anybody who attempts to flood the Board (in effect, denying others the opportunity to post), will find their messages deleted. So why are the postings still up? : That individual's repetitive posts resulted in a 24 hour lock out for them -- and the current flooding policy. : : : : STOP THE EVIL OF RACISM STOP THE HCDO - GOD'S MESSENGER 09:19:39 08/03/03 (0) : : GOD WANTS YOU TO STOP THE EVIL OF CORRUPTION - GOD'S LOVE 09:18:14 08/03/03 (0) : : CUNNINGHAM IS GOD'S CANDIDATE - STOP CORRUPTION 09:16:56 08/03/03 (0) : : WE NEED TO STOP CORRUPTION SUPPORT CUNNINGHAM - STOP CORRUPTION 09:15:31 08/03/03 (0) : : NO CORRUPTION HOPE OF A BETTER DAY - HOPE OF A BETTER DAY 09:14:10 08/03/03 (0) : : THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE FOR HONEST GOVERNMENT - THIS IS BIGGER THAN ALL OF US 09:12:54 08/03/03 (0) : : MAY PEACE BE THE OUTCOME OF THIS FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION - PEACE TO THE PEOPLE OF HUDSON COUNTY 09:11:02 08/03/03 (0) : : HCDO WILL SELL THE ORGANIZATION TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER - FOR SALE CORRUPT POLITICAL ORGANIZATION 09:09:05 08/03/03 (0) : : GLENN CUNNINGHAM FOR GOVENOR - VICTIM OF CORRUPTION 09:07:19 08/03/03 (0) : : GROWTH SECTOR - STOP CORRUPTION 09:05:36 08/03/03 (0) : : LET YOUR FELLOW CORRUPTION PARTNERS DO YOUR TIME - WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE 09:02:22 08/03/03 (0) : : STING OPERATIONS ARE GROWING - WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE 09:00:52 08/03/03 (0) : : DEALING WITH THE FEDERAL WITNESS PROTECTION - WEAR THE WIRE AND RETIRE 08:58:22 08/03/03 (0) : : PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST FAMILY - DORIA CRYS FOWL 08:55:53 08/03/03 (0) : : ROBBED BY THE HCDO - THE POOR TAXPAYER ROBBED 08:54:07 08/03/03 (0) : : STOP FIDEL MENENDEZ - MENENDEZ THE EVIL BEHIND THE HCDO 08:52:40 08/03/03 (0) : : RODNEY - WHY CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG 08:51:07 08/03/03 (0) : : I HAD A DREAM - I HAD A DREAM 08:49:31 08/03/03 (0) : : A PRAYER FOR ALL THOSE THAT SUFFER FROM CORRUPTION - TO ALL THOSE THAT SUFFER FROM CORRUPTION 08:48:01 08/03/03 (0) : : LOVE OF GOD, COUNTRY, AND FREEDOM - LOVE OF FREEDOM WILL RECALL THE HCDO 08:46:19 08/03/03 (0) : : THE ELDERLY NEED THE SERVICES STOLEN BY CORRUPTION - THE ELDERLY NEED THE SERVICES ROBBED BY CORRUPTION 08:44:31 08/03/03 (0) : : HOW CAN A PROPER SYSTEM OF EDUCATION BE PROVIDED - CHILDREN NEED A FUTURE THAT IS BEING ROBBED BY THE HCDO 08:41:37 08/03/03 (0) : : VICTIMS OF CRIME THE PEOPLE - JERSEY CITY VICTIM OF CRIME HCDO HAS MUGGED THE PEOPLE 08:39:28 08/03/03 (0) : : STOP CORRUPTION SUPPORT GLENN CUNNINGHAM - STOPPING CORRUPTION IN HUDSON COUNTY 08:37:49 08/03/03 (0) : : AS STEVIES MOMMY STOP CORRUPTION - STEVIES MOMMY HATES CORRUPTION 08:36:14 08/03/03 (0) : : WHILE A RECALL MAY NOT HAPPEN BEFORE A TRIAL - RESTORE OUR DIGINITY RECALL 08:33:40 08/03/03 (0) : : IT IS WRONG TO STEAL FROM THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY - NO IT IS NOT OK TO STEAL FROM THE PEOPLE 08:32:17 08/03/03 (0) : : HCDO OUTRAGE OF RACISM - HCDO OUTRAGE OF RACISM 07:38:49 08/03/03 (0) : : NO RECALL SEND THE POOR CRIMINALS A CARTON OF SMOKES - FORGET THE RECALL YOU CAN NOT RUN FOR OFFICE IN PRISON 07:35:32 08/03/03 (0) ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1090 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 16:55:24 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1091 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 17:01:10 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1092 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 17:05:34 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1093 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 17:14:12 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WOOLLY BULLY posted Message 1094 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 18:05:10 Subject: Re: READ THE FORBIDDEN POSTS!!! DOWNTOWN YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR ANSWER. HE WAS HERE(THE FORUM HOST) AT 5:14 PM. IF HE ANSWERS YOUR POST HE WILL HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND DELETE IT. HE WILL CHOOSE TO IGNORE THE QUESTION AND KEEP THE FLOODED POSTINGS UP. THE REASON HE IS AS MUCH OF THE PROBLEM AS THE GUY FROM THE UTN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** OUTRAGE OF RACISM BY ONE OF OUR OWN posted Message 1095 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2003 at 21:49:34 Subject: Re: Ward F needs to be freed from the corruption of the UTN! : Stop the UTN and their enslavement of Ward F. Plantation Politics are not acceptable. The price of Freedom is presenting those that love it a bill. Pay the bill of Freedom stop the UTN's war against Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just looking posted Message 1096 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 08:04:57 Subject: MAGGIE DOYLE I'm looking at my water bill here with the high cost color throwaway flier. It say's that MAGGIE DOYLE is the Vice-Chairwoman of the MUA. What's that supposed to mean? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Browser posted Message 1097 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 08:48:38 Subject: McCann in NYC Back in the first round when he was mayor was Gerry ever like an overnight guest of the city of New York? ***************** End Of Article ****************** INSIDER posted Message 1098 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 10:20:25 Subject: Re: MAGGIE DOYLE : I'm looking at my water bill here with the high cost color throwaway flier. : It say's that MAGGIE DOYLE is the Vice-Chairwoman of the MUA. What's that supposed to mean? how cares about maggie...she is a drunk and a political hack. SHE IS FOR SALE TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER...SHE IS A USELESS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** INSIDER posted Message 1099 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 10:21:42 Subject: Re: McCann in NYC : Back in the first round when he was mayor was Gerry ever like an overnight guest of the city of New York? WELL IF YOU KNOW ....SPIT IT OUT ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dreamer posted Message 1100 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 11:32:48 Subject: Re: McCann in NYC : : Back in the first round when he was mayor was Gerry ever like an overnight guest of the city of New York? : WELL IF YOU KNOW ....SPIT IT OUT Who cares and what difference does it make? What if he was? What if he wasn't? Find something better to wank with...wanker ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dreamer posted Message 1101 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 11:34:59 Subject: Re: MAGGIE DOYLE : : I'm looking at my water bill here with the high cost color throwaway flier. : : It say's that MAGGIE DOYLE is the Vice-Chairwoman of the MUA. What's that supposed to mean? : : how cares about maggie...she is a drunk and a political hack. : SHE IS FOR SALE TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER...SHE IS A USELESS. She is a great lady with heart, and stones bigger than most men. More than we can say for you, sniping from ambush. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dreamer posted Message 1102 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 11:36:51 Subject: Re: READ THE FORBIDDEN POSTS!!! : DOWNTOWN YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR ANSWER. : HE WAS HERE(THE FORUM HOST) AT 5:14 PM. : IF HE ANSWERS YOUR POST HE WILL HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND DELETE IT. : HE WILL CHOOSE TO IGNORE THE QUESTION AND KEEP THE FLOODED POSTINGS UP. : THE REASON HE IS AS MUCH OF THE PROBLEM AS THE GUY FROM THE UTN. Problem in what way and to whom, and according to whom? Whom the hell are you to say, Pinky. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dreamcast posted Message 1103 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 11:43:42 Subject: Re: MAGGIE DOYLE : : : I'm looking at my water bill here with the high cost color throwaway flier. : : : It say's that MAGGIE DOYLE is the Vice-Chairwoman of the MUA. What's that supposed to mean? : : : : how cares about maggie...she is a drunk and a political hack. : : SHE IS FOR SALE TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER...SHE IS A USELESS. : She is a great lady with heart, and stones bigger than most men. More than we can say for you, sniping from ambush. Sounds like you may like her Steve. Why don't you go out for a drink. You two should hit it off real well..Two drunks!Two peas in a pod! Both losers!I heard there is two for one sale at A.A. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN is a toxic dump. posted Message 1104 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 11:55:38 Subject: Re: MAGGIE DOYLE : : : : I'm looking at my water bill here with the high cost color throwaway flier. : : : : It say's that MAGGIE DOYLE is the Vice-Chairwoman of the MUA. What's that supposed to mean? : : : : : : how cares about maggie...she is a drunk and a political hack. : : : SHE IS FOR SALE TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER...SHE IS A USELESS. : : She is a great lady with heart, and stones bigger than most men. More than we can say for you, sniping from ambush. : Sounds like you may like her Steve. : Why don't you go out for a drink. : You two should hit it off real well..Two drunks!Two peas in a pod! Both losers!I heard there is two for one sale at A.A. Don't insulte Maggie that way by using her name inthe same sentance with Glazer , she isn't a bad person just had some hard times. She has come along way and all it is is a job. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A word to the wise. posted Message 1105 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 12:03:27 Subject: Re: READ THE FORBIDDEN POSTS!!! : : DOWNTOWN YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR ANSWER. : : HE WAS HERE(THE FORUM HOST) AT 5:14 PM. : : IF HE ANSWERS YOUR POST HE WILL HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND DELETE IT. : : HE WILL CHOOSE TO IGNORE THE QUESTION AND KEEP THE FLOODED POSTINGS UP. : : THE REASON HE IS AS MUCH OF THE PROBLEM AS THE GUY FROM THE UTN. : Problem in what way and to whom, and according to whom? Whom the hell are you to say, Pinky. Hey Glazer, why don't you try to hurt Pinky like you do everyone else and watch and see how quickly the friends you think you have will turn on you. Go ahead try it and see what happens. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Auld lang syne posted Message 1106 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 12:58:22 Subject: Re: McCann in NYC : Back in the first round when he was mayor was Gerry ever like an overnight guest of the city of New York? It's like ancient history but the rumor was that with a snootful of the best that Scotland has to offer, Gerry attempted to get shall we say a little better than a first name basis with a waitress. Not impressed that he was a CPA, the young lady refused. and some sort of turmoil ensued. Enter stage left the NYC police. Story goes that then NYC Mayor Ed Koch was brought in for the final call. Seems that the pretty Miss insisted on pressing charges. Koch agreed with her that no pity should be wasted on Gerry, but think of his wife and the people of Jersey City. They've got to put up with the guy every day. Do you want that they should have to bear even yet more suffering. Staggered at the thought of a daily dose of McCann, she agreed to just forget about the whole thing. It ended with Gerry being treated to a supervised slumber and a ride home the next day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Your good! posted Message 1107 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 13:11:54 Subject: Re: McCann in NYC Dang! Where do you find that ..I love it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Woolly Bully posted Message 1108 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 13:21:02 Subject: Re: READ THE FORBIDDEN POSTS!!! SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT GLAZER! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jailhouserock posted Message 1109 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 13:57:11 Subject: Re: READ THE FORBIDDEN POSTS!!! Now, now, kids! Let us all try to act like good little boys and girls. : SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT GLAZER! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CC Productions posted Message 1110 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 14:16:18 Subject: Break Into A New Career In THE MOVIES! Stand outside of 54 Washburn Street. You'll be filmed. . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dreamer posted Message 1111 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 14:29:32 Subject: Cloudy Here This Morning Aint no sunshine... ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 1112 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 16:11:00 Subject: Tonites topics 4 injured at Foxes in JC how long with the City let this place operate? County says no to McCann petitions DUH. future of the old Med Center with guests Lipski and Holoway, credit reports tobe used for auto insurance risk rates? all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking toll free to call and have your voice heard! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1113 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 17:01:18 Subject: Corruption in the Era of John V. Kenny This is a new feature -- lots more will be added! Please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JollyReaper posted Message 1114 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 21:02:21 Subject: Funniest thing I can remember McCann was Mayor during that happy first goround. It was the public speaking portion of a Council meeting. Some obese character is yelling and hollering about how bad the EMS ambulance service is, of all things. The guy actually works himself into a frenzy and keels over with a heart attack right at the mike. Somebody dials 911 and an ambulance show up like immediately. They get the guy stabilized and on a stretcher. Just as they are about to wheel him out, McCann, in front of the entire public and the Council walks over to the guy stretched out. Gerry gets right in his face and yells loud enough to be heard up at Journal Square, "I'd like to hear you say something bad about the EMS NOW, you fat F#$*K!" : : Back in the first round when he was mayor was Gerry ever like an overnight guest of the city of New York? : It's like ancient history but the rumor was that with a snootful of the best that Scotland has to offer, Gerry attempted to get shall we say a little better than a first name basis with a waitress. Not impressed that he was a CPA, the young lady refused. and some sort of turmoil ensued. : Enter stage left the NYC police. : Story goes that then NYC Mayor Ed Koch was brought in for the final call. Seems that the pretty Miss insisted on pressing charges. Koch agreed with her that no pity should be wasted on Gerry, but think of his wife and the people of Jersey City. They've got to put up with the guy every day. Do you want that they should have to bear even yet more suffering. Staggered at the thought of a daily dose of McCann, she agreed to just forget about the whole thing. : It ended with Gerry being treated to a supervised slumber and a ride home the next day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Looks like a Communist Rally or their Democrats posted Message 1115 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 21:42:53 Subject: Re: Corruption in the Era of John V. Kenny Well we now know that the legacy of pigdom goes way back. However this does not remove the stain from our fair County created by the HCDO is it possible to just say I hate them for being crooks that get away with it. I wonder do we need to dress up a pig give it a history to know it is a flithy animal. This Kenny smells as bad as the one we have now. Eventually we will not have multigenerational corruption the odds are if you engage in the act of blanking the public you will eventually contract some type of STD. : This is a new feature -- lots more will be added! : Please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Danger there are HCDO people at the polling place posted Message 1116 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 21:46:31 Subject: Bayonnes volunteer army of poll watchers How does the a group from Bayonne expect anyone to believe they would watch a poll with any type of truthfulness. The mob runs Bayonnes elections and pays for the volunteers. So now that we have cleared the air that Bayonne is bought and paid for by the thugs lets flush the Doritto Banditos toilet. Down with the HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** When shes gone posted Message 1117 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 21:47:16 Subject: Re: Cloudy Here This Morning : Aint no sunshine... ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCann is the greatest guy posted Message 1118 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 21:54:55 Subject: Re: McCann in NYC Once I had a hole in my shoe and it was snowing I was standing in a lobby waiting for an interview I did not have a job. I ran into Mc Cann he noticed that the shoe looked odd. The next day I recieved a letter with enough to buy a good pair of shoes I know it was Mc Cann. That same year during Christmass he helped with presents out of work with kids a life time ago. Mc Cann is a great man a little crazy but the good kind real good. He never asked for anything in return he always refused anything even to buy him a drink. : Back in the first round when he was mayor was Gerry ever like an overnight guest of the city of New York? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lets go to the tape posted Message 1119 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2003 at 23:56:09 Subject: Re: Break Into A New Career In THE MOVIES! Is this the same production company that has the tapes of Glenn Cunningham in the upstairs room of that certain adult club with that cetain blonde here in JC? If it is they do great work! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hmmmmmmmmm posted Message 1120 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2003 at 00:31:55 Subject: Re: McCann in NYC And my name is ............... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not Just Hudson County the Democrats are lost Nationally posted Message 1121 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2003 at 02:35:30 Subject: Democrats are over with maybe the Green Party Both locally and nationally the Democratic Parties elected officials have violated the public trust who amoung us would deny that the Democrats big tent has subverted this nations ability to defend itself. Is there a plot or should they be called the Suicide Party since they tend to hang them selves. Why would they allow corruption from the inside outas is the case with the HCDO. The most interesting thing is all Democratic Organizations are suspect across this nation. ***************** End Of Article ****************** REPUBLICAN posted Message 1122 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2003 at 03:34:55 Subject: www.munozforassembly.com www.munozforassembly.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Kettle Is Black posted Message 1123 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2003 at 08:09:45 Subject: Re: Corruption in the Era of John V. Kenny It's great when the Utn conjures ghosts from the past to attack Bernie Kenny's Dad considering the fact that Glenn doesn't know who his dad is. Neither do his kids for that matter as he has never acknowledged or supported them. : Well we now know that the legacy of pigdom goes way back. However this does not remove the stain from our fair County created by the HCDO is it possible to just say I hate them for being crooks that get away with it. I wonder do we need to dress up a pig give it a history to know it is a flithy animal. This Kenny smells as bad as the one we have now. Eventually we will not have multigenerational corruption the odds are if you engage in the act of blanking the public you will eventually contract some type of STD. : : : This is a new feature -- lots more will be added! : : Please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Like Father Like Son posted Message 1124 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2003 at 09:50:27 Subject: Bernie Kenny Just As Corrupt as His Dad Bernard Kenny - Our Current State Senator and County Chariman must have inherited all of his Fathers tricks and added a few of his own. We have all heard of "welfare generations" Bernie Kenny is living proof of being a product of a "Corruption Generation" I read recently that Bernie Kenny got the State of New Jersey to use public funds inorder to pay for a football field for the private school his son goes to. This was total misuse of State Tax Dollars - Kenny could care less - he did it for his kid. UNBELIEVABLE........ I guess Bernie is showing the little kid the ropes. What a disgrace ! ! ! WHEN WILL THIS COME TO AN END ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GONE WITH THE WIND! posted Message 1125 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2003 at 10:04:07 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Just As Corrupt as His Dad : Bernard Kenny - Our Current State Senator and County Chariman must have inherited all of his Fathers tricks and added a few of his own. : : We have all heard of "welfare generations" Bernie Kenny is living proof of being a product of a "Corruption Generation" : I read recently that Bernie Kenny got the State of New Jersey to use public funds inorder to pay for a football field for the private school his son goes to. This was total misuse of State Tax Dollars - Kenny could care less - he did it for his kid. UNBELIEVABLE........ I guess Bernie is showing the little kid the ropes. : What a disgrace ! ! ! : WHEN WILL THIS COME TO AN END ? St. Peter's Prep got a quarter million AND Seton Hall Prep got another quarter million. See the linked article to learn more: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor out of work but still lust for justice posted Message 1126 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2003 at 18:57:49 Subject: No Matter how Hungry I get I still need the air to be free Truth Justice and the American Way equal access under the law stop the corruption. Imagine if all the resources allocated to the people where actually used the right way. Well the way to fix that is get rid of Menendez, Doritto bandito, Mc Grafty the clown and others. Or they could be good sports about it and leave town take the next bus out. I only hope that I live to see a day when a whole group of folks run the show the right way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Angel's legacy posted Message 1127 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2003 at 09:22:09 Subject: Decay an infection of evil Angel Castro y Argiz immigrant laborer from Galicia, Spain was commanded to leave Spain for acts intolerable by a decent society he was gay and an opium addict. Angel made his way to Cuba where he amassed a fortune importing opium for tourist. Angel also befriended a household servant/prostitute Lina Ruz Gonzalez who's children where accredited to Angel although all of them would have a questionable patrimony. The children accredited to Angel Castro y Argiz are Fidel Castro and Raul Castro. The secret can finally be told Fidel Castro is a total bastard so should his true name should be Fidel Who? As freedom from despots like Fidel Who goes on it is important to remember that Fidel Who carried on the family business as a drug importer and exporter. The man that did not know his true father was also subjected to molestation by his mother frequent clients and his in name only father. Despots are created by sick people infecting other sick people HCDO stop infecting us all with your corruption it leads to decay and the death of society. We are the creators of evil and small acts of evil add on to other acts. The balance of good versus evil must be established in Hudson County unless we want to be ruled by the evil that rules Cuba now. Goodness is a choice of the Free by making evil a choice your freedom is removed until there is no more. Fidel Castro is trully the creation of evil. The HCDO can stop before it goes to far. Evil is a force one that must be fought daily. The only choice evil affords is decay Goodness brings freedom to choose. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hypocrite posted Message 1128 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2003 at 12:44:39 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Just As Corrupt as His Dad : Bernard Kenny - Our Current State Senator and County Chariman must have inherited all of his Fathers tricks and added a few of his own. : : We have all heard of "welfare generations" Bernie Kenny is living proof of being a product of a "Corruption Generation" : I read recently that Bernie Kenny got the State of New Jersey to use public funds inorder to pay for a football field for the private school his son goes to. This was total misuse of State Tax Dollars - Kenny could care less - he did it for his kid. UNBELIEVABLE........ I guess Bernie is showing the little kid the ropes. : What a disgrace ! ! ! : WHEN WILL THIS COME TO AN END ? Isn't it just great that Glenn's little butt boy fires shots at a guys Dad over an event that happened 40 years ago when the Mayor neither acknowledges or supports his own kids. As a matter of fact butt boy Glazer doesn't tuck his kids each night either, do you Steve. Absentee was kicked out a long time ago. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 3rd Party posted Message 1129 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2003 at 19:30:39 Subject: JC Needs a third party Corruption running rampant on both sides of the democratic party, one side playing the race card in a moronic fashion the other side is just playing the little rascals. Lets get things done here for JC not for whomever your buddy is at the moment. I will never vote republican but you guys are making it hard for me to vote for any of you weasels. let make a slash and burn policy for the politicians of JC or for hudson county while we are at it, lets take them all out and start over with people who have nothing to gain (or with who have friends with nothing to gain) in city hall. I'll bet you that every politician in JC has their hands dirty. The Machine is still going. ***************** End Of Article ****************** This has nothing to do with racism it has to do with the law! posted Message 1130 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2003 at 23:07:01 Subject: Attorney General weighs in ..................... Attorney General weighs in on behalf of Doria In Attorney General Peter Harvey said today that breaking state campaign finance laws is grounds for a contest to the election under New Jersey election laws. Assembly incumbents Joe Doria and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli and Senate candidate L. Harvey Smith, who lost the June 3 Democratic primary, are seeking to have the winners -- Senate candidate Glenn Cunningham and Assembly candidates Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo -- tossed from the general election ballot. Superior Court Judge Arthur D'Italia is currently considering a motion to the dismiss the case, which is scheduled for trial on August 25. Click here to read the Attorney General's letter to Judge D'Italia. | Click here to view the legal brief filed by Smith, Doria and Perez-Cinciarelli. (08/13/03) http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_AG081303.htm http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_brief2003.htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** dude posted Message 1131 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 11:23:20 Subject: Re: JC Needs a third party This is the more stupid thing I ever heard. So you never will vote for republicans but you will vote for the crook politicians in Hudson county that are member of the dem party. For your Info, Mayor Robinson from Hoboken, was a republican, Albio Sires, the speaker of the house was a republican. Brian Stack from Union City, was a republican. So you vote for party affiliation and not for candidate? that is the reason hudson county is down hill. Any crook shows the dem flag and people vote for him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who is he? posted Message 1132 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 11:41:12 Subject: Re: Attorney General weighs in ..................... : Attorney General weighs in on behalf of Doria : In Attorney General Peter Harvey said today that breaking state campaign finance laws is grounds for a contest to the election under New Jersey election laws. Assembly incumbents Joe Doria and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli and Senate candidate L. Harvey Smith, who lost the June 3 Democratic primary, are seeking to have the winners -- Senate candidate Glenn Cunningham and Assembly candidates Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo -- tossed from the general election ballot. : Superior Court Judge Arthur D'Italia is currently considering a motion to the dismiss the case, which is scheduled for trial on August 25. Click here to read the Attorney General's letter to Judge D'Italia. | Click here to view the legal brief filed by Smith, Doria and Perez-Cinciarelli. (08/13/03) : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_AG081303.htm : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_brief2003.htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** What's he got to do with it? posted Message 1133 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 11:41:52 Subject: Re: Attorney General weighs in ..................... : : Attorney General weighs in on behalf of Doria : : In Attorney General Peter Harvey said today that breaking state campaign finance laws is grounds for a contest to the election under New Jersey election laws. Assembly incumbents Joe Doria and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli and Senate candidate L. Harvey Smith, who lost the June 3 Democratic primary, are seeking to have the winners -- Senate candidate Glenn Cunningham and Assembly candidates Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo -- tossed from the general election ballot. : : Superior Court Judge Arthur D'Italia is currently considering a motion to the dismiss the case, which is scheduled for trial on August 25. Click here to read the Attorney General's letter to Judge D'Italia. | Click here to view the legal brief filed by Smith, Doria and Perez-Cinciarelli. (08/13/03) : : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_AG081303.htm : : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_brief2003.htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who asked him? posted Message 1134 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 11:42:53 Subject: Re: Attorney General weighs in ..................... : : : Attorney General weighs in on behalf of Doria : : : In Attorney General Peter Harvey said today that breaking state campaign finance laws is grounds for a contest to the election under New Jersey election laws. Assembly incumbents Joe Doria and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli and Senate candidate L. Harvey Smith, who lost the June 3 Democratic primary, are seeking to have the winners -- Senate candidate Glenn Cunningham and Assembly candidates Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo -- tossed from the general election ballot. : : : Superior Court Judge Arthur D'Italia is currently considering a motion to the dismiss the case, which is scheduled for trial on August 25. Click here to read the Attorney General's letter to Judge D'Italia. | Click here to view the legal brief filed by Smith, Doria and Perez-Cinciarelli. (08/13/03) : : : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_AG081303.htm : : : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_brief2003.htm This is not the job of this clown. He cannot do his own. ***************** End Of Article ****************** None of his business posted Message 1135 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 11:43:58 Subject: Re: Attorney General weighs in ..................... : : : : Attorney General weighs in on behalf of Doria : : : : In Attorney General Peter Harvey said today that breaking state campaign finance laws is grounds for a contest to the election under New Jersey election laws. Assembly incumbents Joe Doria and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli and Senate candidate L. Harvey Smith, who lost the June 3 Democratic primary, are seeking to have the winners -- Senate candidate Glenn Cunningham and Assembly candidates Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo -- tossed from the general election ballot. : : : : Superior Court Judge Arthur D'Italia is currently considering a motion to the dismiss the case, which is scheduled for trial on August 25. Click here to read the Attorney General's letter to Judge D'Italia. | Click here to view the legal brief filed by Smith, Doria and Perez-Cinciarelli. (08/13/03) : : : : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_AG081303.htm : : : : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_brief2003.htm : This is not the job of this clown. He cannot do his own. He has no business. Political hack loser... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Carries no weight posted Message 1136 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 11:45:12 Subject: Re: Attorney General weighs in ..................... : : : : : Attorney General weighs in on behalf of Doria : : : : : In Attorney General Peter Harvey said today that breaking state campaign finance laws is grounds for a contest to the election under New Jersey election laws. Assembly incumbents Joe Doria and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli and Senate candidate L. Harvey Smith, who lost the June 3 Democratic primary, are seeking to have the winners -- Senate candidate Glenn Cunningham and Assembly candidates Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo -- tossed from the general election ballot. : : : : : Superior Court Judge Arthur D'Italia is currently considering a motion to the dismiss the case, which is scheduled for trial on August 25. Click here to read the Attorney General's letter to Judge D'Italia. | Click here to view the legal brief filed by Smith, Doria and Perez-Cinciarelli. (08/13/03) : : : : : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_AG081303.htm : : : : : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_brief2003.htm : : This is not the job of this clown. He cannot do his own. : He has no business. Political hack loser... FOOL. Go shoot yourself in your other foot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Race card delivered by errand boy posted Message 1137 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 11:47:11 Subject: Re: Attorney General weighs in ..................... : : : : : : Attorney General weighs in on behalf of Doria : : : : : : In Attorney General Peter Harvey said today that breaking state campaign finance laws is grounds for a contest to the election under New Jersey election laws. Assembly incumbents Joe Doria and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli and Senate candidate L. Harvey Smith, who lost the June 3 Democratic primary, are seeking to have the winners -- Senate candidate Glenn Cunningham and Assembly candidates Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo -- tossed from the general election ballot. : : : : : : Superior Court Judge Arthur D'Italia is currently considering a motion to the dismiss the case, which is scheduled for trial on August 25. Click here to read the Attorney General's letter to Judge D'Italia. | Click here to view the legal brief filed by Smith, Doria and Perez-Cinciarelli. (08/13/03) : : : : : : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_AG081303.htm : : : : : : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_brief2003.htm : : : This is not the job of this clown. He cannot do his own. : : He has no business. Political hack loser... : FOOL. Go shoot yourself in your other foot. This is a trump, like Uncle Harvey. AG has no business in this affair. This is a matter for the courts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Then, why Uncle Peter to deliver the news? posted Message 1138 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 11:48:13 Subject: Re: Attorney General weighs in ..................... : Attorney General weighs in on behalf of Doria : In Attorney General Peter Harvey said today that breaking state campaign finance laws is grounds for a contest to the election under New Jersey election laws. Assembly incumbents Joe Doria and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli and Senate candidate L. Harvey Smith, who lost the June 3 Democratic primary, are seeking to have the winners -- Senate candidate Glenn Cunningham and Assembly candidates Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo -- tossed from the general election ballot. : Superior Court Judge Arthur D'Italia is currently considering a motion to the dismiss the case, which is scheduled for trial on August 25. Click here to read the Attorney General's letter to Judge D'Italia. | Click here to view the legal brief filed by Smith, Doria and Perez-Cinciarelli. (08/13/03) : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_AG081303.htm : http://www.politicsnj.com/31stdistrict_challenge_brief2003.htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** IN THE DARK posted Message 1139 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 18:12:02 Subject: HCDO IS THE CAUSE OF POWER OUTAGES Why not ...they are blaimed for everything else! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ston Earson posted Message 1140 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 18:33:59 Subject: Press Release August 14,, 2003 For Immediate Release Contact: Ston H. Earson 201-671-3130 “It’s all their fault I tell you all their fault” JERSEY CITY- As the November election approaches, the District 31st Senate and Assembly primary winners will urge local and state democratic organizations in a Friday Aug 16th, 2003 news conference at City Hall to unite and show their support. Senate democratic nominee, Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, flanked by assemblymen nominees, Lou Manzo and Anthony Chiappone, will call upon state’s democratic leaders to blame the HCDO for the recent power failure that swept the nation. It’s all part of the master plan. They want to take over the State, The Nation ,the World! Cunningham, Manzo and Chiappone will be on hand to speak and answer questions./ ***************** End Of Article ****************** In the dark posted Message 1141 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 20:09:58 Subject: Re: HCDO IS THE CAUSE OF POWER OUTAGES I even blame them for spelling "blaimed" wrong, ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL posted Message 1142 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 21:37:27 Subject: Re: Press Release This is very funny ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cunningham thinks he is the only black man.... posted Message 1143 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 21:39:56 Subject: Re: Attorney General weighs in ..................... Just like the Cunningham crew shout racism. The AG is black folks so now he is "UNCLE PETER"? This is getting old UTN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN posted Message 1144 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 21:41:04 Subject: Hi Glazer YAWN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN=NUT posted Message 1145 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 21:41:50 Subject: HI GLAZER :YAWN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN=NUT posted Message 1146 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 21:41:57 Subject: HI GLAZER :YAWN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN=NUT posted Message 1147 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 21:42:51 Subject: HI GLAZER YAWN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN=NUT posted Message 1148 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 21:43:47 Subject: HI GLAZER YAWN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN=NUT posted Message 1149 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 21:44:30 Subject: HI GLAZER YAWN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN=NUT posted Message 1150 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 21:45:17 Subject: HI GLAZER YAWN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** hahahahahhahahha posted Message 1151 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 22:21:37 Subject: McCAN'T yeah Baby! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lets get the Canadians posted Message 1152 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 23:15:00 Subject: Canadian Terrorist Network This probe conducted by a Canadian based terrorist cell has been supported by the Canadian Government. Canada is a threat to your life fire all Canadian workers send them home and do not under any circumstances use maple syrup. Canada the Hockey Puck Terror support group has emerged in the black out as the real enemy of the US. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Those dang Yankees posted Message 1153 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2003 at 23:40:46 Subject: Re: Canadian Terrorist Network I am sure by morning the Urban Times News and Stan Eason will say it is an HCDO conspiracy with the Canadians. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blackouts equal lost records posted Message 1154 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 09:57:30 Subject: Ward F election results lost in the Blackout I love the smell of conspiracy in the AM it smells like victory how many votes and records of votes where lost in the Blackout dimes to donuts the HCDO has orchestrated the loss of the all the Ward F voting records for the Democratic Candidate for State Senator. Imagine that I’m predicting it before they announce it maybe I’m even giving them an idea. Blackouts equal lost records of all sorts how do we live with that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The HCDO Conspiracy Theory. posted Message 1155 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 11:33:42 Subject: Re: Ward F election results lost in the Blackout Boy o'boy those bad , bad, HCDO people causing half the largest Blackout in history just to win an election. Next weeks UTN headlines "HCDO STOPS AFRICAN AMERICANS FROM VOTING BY CUTTING OFF THEIR JUICE" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Beach Bum posted Message 1156 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 21:15:57 Subject: HCDO Beach Party Beach Party featuring Doria in a thong. Imagine all three hundred pound of that fat ginzo on some beach. Of course his sisters the nuns would be there making false records for the next election. Screw Doria f***kin Ginny Bastard. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doria in a thong posted Message 1157 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 21:18:20 Subject: Re: HCDO Beach Party Doria looks good in a thong especially when he shaves his ass. : Beach Party featuring Doria in a thong. Imagine all three hundred pound of that fat ginzo on some beach. Of course his sisters the nuns would be there making false records for the next election. Screw Doria f***kin Ginny Bastard. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nuns in thongs posted Message 1158 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 21:20:02 Subject: Re: HCDO Beach Party I hope the nuns go topless. : Doria looks good in a thong especially when he shaves his ass. : : Beach Party featuring Doria in a thong. Imagine all three hundred pound of that fat ginzo on some beach. Of course his sisters the nuns would be there making false records for the next election. Screw Doria f***kin Ginny Bastard. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doria's Proctologist posted Message 1159 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 21:24:50 Subject: I cannot get the stick out Doctor Vinny Goombast has announced that the rather large stick locted in the rear of Doria cannot be removed causing him to he full of it. We only hope he does not explode from the build up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1160 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 21:24:59 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1161 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 21:33:37 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bayonne posted Message 1162 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 22:20:05 Subject: Agricultural Development for Bayonne Considering the greed and unbridled feeding habits of the Bayonne politician Doria it is surprising to see a lack of Hog Farms in Bayonne. The elighten elctorate of Bayonne would then have a choice of equals either Doria or a hog. Mr. Doria I hear banjo's a strumming the theme from Deliverance coming from the cell you will share with Billybo the man lover. It is at this point in time you may squeel like a hog. If Doria where playing Monopoly his card would read Go To Jail Go Directly to Jail. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lover of Liberty posted Message 1163 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 22:27:55 Subject: Objectivity and the need for a clear unified voice Democrats unite do not divide these differences will cost us the important agenda item keeping the Republicans out of office. While Cunnigham is my choice and my post to this board have been well over the top I believe that unity is more important than Cunningham and he would agree as well since his service has been of great value to the party. So all the arguments aside lets make peace and defeat the Republicans. Hudson County can live with many different types of Democrats from liberal to conservative, black and white lets find the middle road towards progress. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Peace for the Party's sake posted Message 1164 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 22:34:05 Subject: Cunningham should resign from office Since the vote is invalid and the Party will not support Cunningham his resignation should be tendered. Granted this is not fair but what is in this day and age. So the HCDO wins and gets their candidate whats the big deal. Glenn Cunningham attempted to change a system using legal means but even that was not good enough so it is time to throw the towel in and walk away rebuild the party and confront the Republicans. There is no hope of Cunningham winning against the HCDO and the Republicans are a poor second choice. The dream of every voter being counted has died but there is another day maybe next time. Sorry to say but the truth and playing by the rules was not good enough in the end. We are all left smaller and less than by this event. We still have hope perhaps another election a fair one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City should shut down for good posted Message 1165 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 22:37:28 Subject: Invalid Government Jersey City should be merged into another city because its votes do not count. The will of the electorate has been rendered void. Since the people desire some form of government and the Jersey City Government is held invalid lets see if we can formulate a merger whereby Jersey City residents get some governement. Perhaps begging the HCDO for a government would work they may allow us our rights. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hunger, Angry, Lonely, and Tired posted Message 1166 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 22:44:29 Subject: Great expectations Well I give up what makes it work is the answer they have won and beat us where we stand. No vote cast is valid. So why vote why care they will continue to steal lie and cheat and we get nothing in return. All hope is lost a quite realization of our place our lot in life. Perhaps it is not racist but I feel less than lower than and all together oppressed. Maybe its just me. I must be an idiot to have born black maybe I can get a procedure to change my color? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Voter posted Message 1167 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 22:48:40 Subject: Court Date August 25th I loose my vote Having Cunningham tossed from the ballot will cancel my vote so what is left to do about that event. Should my vote be tossed or can I rest assured that the Democrats on the ballot will look after my interest? I do not know what to think confused and abused where is my vote? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doria supporter posted Message 1168 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 22:50:25 Subject: Re: Court Date August 25th I loose my vote Doria is a good candidate he can represent the people that voted for Cunningham. : Having Cunningham tossed from the ballot will cancel my vote so what is left to do about that event. Should my vote be tossed or can I rest assured that the Democrats on the ballot will look after my interest? I do not know what to think confused and abused where is my vote? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doria Supporter posted Message 1169 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 22:52:06 Subject: Re: Great expectations Your vote as a Democrat is welcomed Doria will represent you in an honorable way. Doria has an excellant record of service. : Well I give up what makes it work is the answer they have won and beat us where we stand. No vote cast is valid. So why vote why care they will continue to steal lie and cheat and we get nothing in return. All hope is lost a quite realization of our place our lot in life. Perhaps it is not racist but I feel less than lower than and all together oppressed. Maybe its just me. I must be an idiot to have born black maybe I can get a procedure to change my color? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doria Supporter posted Message 1170 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 22:53:27 Subject: Re: Invalid Government I think this is over reacting. Doria is an excellant candidate his record speaks for its self. : Jersey City should be merged into another city because its votes do not count. The will of the electorate has been rendered void. Since the people desire some form of government and the Jersey City Government is held invalid lets see if we can formulate a merger whereby Jersey City residents get some governement. Perhaps begging the HCDO for a government would work they may allow us our rights. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doria Supporter posted Message 1171 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 22:55:17 Subject: Re: Cunningham should resign from office Cunningham is welcome as well as everyone. Doria is a uniter and wishes for party unity not at the expense of Glenn Cunningham. : Since the vote is invalid and the Party will not support Cunningham his resignation should be tendered. Granted this is not fair but what is in this day and age. So the HCDO wins and gets their candidate whats the big deal. Glenn Cunningham attempted to change a system using legal means but even that was not good enough so it is time to throw the towel in and walk away rebuild the party and confront the Republicans. There is no hope of Cunningham winning against the HCDO and the Republicans are a poor second choice. The dream of every voter being counted has died but there is another day maybe next time. Sorry to say but the truth and playing by the rules was not good enough in the end. We are all left smaller and less than by this event. We still have hope perhaps another election a fair one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sueeeeeeeeeeey Steve posted Message 1172 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 23:31:29 Subject: Re: Agricultural Development for Bayonne THe only squealing noise you hear is that of the UTN boy toy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** wqaa posted Message 1173 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2003 at 23:56:46 Subject: Re: Court Date August 25th I loose my vote Cunningham will become a Republican and run as the republican party candidate and then the HCDO will get the biggest kick on the behind ever! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dan the Man McMahon posted Message 1174 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 16, 2003 at 00:15:40 Subject: Lou Manzo Press Release Civic activist and Assemblyman elect Lou Manzo announced tonight that he is definitely a candidate for Governor of California. Lou has never lived in California , nor visited there, but feels the state's zany brand of politics is tailored made for him. "They got folks out there that are bigger kooks than me" said Lou. Lou plans on basing his grass roots campaign on the twin themes of his virulent opposition to both earthquakes and tax abatements. If California does not have abatements Lou will run on something dealing with either grape or apple pickers which he hopes to link to Bob Menendez."I'm in this to win" said Manzo,"I'll terminate the terminator and see ya later alligator". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer-Urban Times News posted Message 1175 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 16, 2003 at 15:54:38 Subject: HCDO ELECTION CHALLENGE: HISTORY WILL TEACH US NOTHING Steven Glazer-Urban Times News-email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1176 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 16, 2003 at 17:28:05 Subject: Pat's 1 year anniversary show November 12, 2001 Lou Manzo, Jeramiah Healy, Peter Weiss and Earl Morgan (in order of appearance) are the guests. The general opinion was that the Council and Glenn Cunningham's solid support for Jim McGreevey boded well for Jersey City. Well, prophesy is very difficult, particularly concerning the future... ***************** End Of Article ****************** doria hates jazz posted Message 1177 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 17, 2003 at 19:52:08 Subject: must read : Doria is a good candidate he can represent the people that voted for Cunningham. : : Having Cunningham tossed from the ballot will cancel my vote so what is left to do about that event. Should my vote be tossed or can I rest assured that the Democrats on the ballot will look after my interest? I do not know what to think confused and abused where is my vote? Joe Doria STATED DURING RECOUNT Your butt is wide, well mine is too Just watch your mouth or I'll sit on you The word is out, better treats me right 'Cause I'm the king of cellulite Ham on, ham on, ham on whole wheat, all right My zippers bust, my buckles break I'm too much man for you to take The pavement cracks when I fall down I've got more chins than Chinatown Well, I've never used a phone booth And I've never seen my toes When I'm goin' to the movies I take up seven rows When I walk out to get my mail It measures on the Richter scale Down at the beach I'm a lucky man I'm the only one who gets a tan If I have one more pie a la mode I'm gonna need my own zip code When you're only having seconds I'm having twenty-thirds When I go to get my shoes shined I gotta take their word ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hillarious posted Message 1178 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 17, 2003 at 19:56:18 Subject: Too Funny FANTASTIC - KEEP IT UP : Joe Doria STATED DURING RECOUNT Your butt is wide, well mine is too : Just watch your mouth or I'll sit on you : The word is out, better treats me right : 'Cause I'm the king of cellulite : Ham on, ham on, ham on whole wheat, all right : My zippers bust, my buckles break : I'm too much man for you to take : The pavement cracks when I fall down : I've got more chins than Chinatown : Well, I've never used a phone booth : And I've never seen my toes : When I'm goin' to the movies : I take up seven rows : When I walk out to get my mail : It measures on the Richter scale : Down at the beach I'm a lucky man : I'm the only one who gets a tan : If I have one more pie a la mode : I'm gonna need my own zip code : When you're only having seconds : I'm having twenty-thirds : When I go to get my shoes shined : I gotta take their word ***************** End Of Article ****************** Whos to blaim for the lack of jobs posted Message 1179 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 17, 2003 at 20:55:03 Subject: Corruption errodes trust and drives investment dollars away A World Bank study, using a regression analysis covering the 1980s, suggests that a 10 percent difference in the degree of generic trust among the citizens of a nation is reflected in a 0.8 percent variance in that country's rate of economic growth. With average annual growth worldwide in the range of 1 percent to 3 percent during the same period, it is easy to see the payback in building trust. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO Rally for Unity posted Message 1180 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 17, 2003 at 21:14:08 Subject: HCDO will have a Rally for Unity August 25th HCDO will sponsor a rally for unity August 25th. Leather Boots and Goose Stepping are welcome. All Ward F participants will be given yellow stars and allowed to march in the back of the parade. The small show of affection for the fearless leader of the HCDO Congressman Menendez will be presented with the Reich's Highest Order the Iron Cross. Of course the standard bearers will wear brown shirts and march in front. A sign of Unity will be required of all those Democrats wishing to obtain favors. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Do you see red! posted Message 1181 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 17, 2003 at 21:51:04 Subject: Do you see RED! Do you see RED when you open your Tax bill? Help us pass the "LOCAL FINANCE LIMITATION ACT" http://www.munozforassembly.com/localfinlimact.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE ORIGINAL POSTER IS AN A$$HOLE! posted Message 1182 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 17, 2003 at 23:14:53 Subject: Re: HCDO will have a Rally for Unity August 25th HUGE MISTAKE,,,,,,,,HUGE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** munozforassembly posted Message 1183 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 17, 2003 at 23:21:37 Subject: Lets give parents a choice! Help Elise DiNardo and Jose Munoz pass the "School Choice Act" to promote better education for our childrens. more info: http://www.munozforassembly.com/schoolchoice.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yes I forgot my place forgive me please posted Message 1184 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 18, 2003 at 08:02:13 Subject: Re: HCDO will have a Rally for Unity August 25th Sorry to have posted such a blunt statement of your final solution forgive me for expressing my opinion in terms you actually understood. After all why should I have the freedom of speech when it interupts your ability to steal and corrupt the system. Please do not hurt me I fear your rath. Yes I'm an a$$hole for tolerating you and your corrupt friend for years. What kind of idiot was I believing in justice for all and the rule of law when clearly you are a barbarian of the worst kind one that lurks in the neither regions of legality out of the reach of justice. Those that support corruption will take everything including me away to where they can deal with me in a manner they find acceptable. By allowing the thieves to run the system we endanger our own lives and the lives of our children how many futures must be robbed before we say stop the madness. Yes they are corrutp dangerous people that must be stopped using the rule of law and elections and time after time they can steal that right of equal protection under the law but we will continue. The little man will prevail against the rule of the barbarian we will never bend our knee to please a despotic regime that steals and cheats the people for after all that is what makes us the people no knee bended to despots no knee bended to corruption. Take away everything else but you will never get my diginity it was never and will never be for sale. : HUGE MISTAKE,,,,,,,,HUGE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Little Man posted Message 1185 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 18, 2003 at 08:08:06 Subject: A bended knee to corruption never Who will be there when they come for you. By not tolerating the corruption and not bending our knee to the despots we make stronger the world we live in. Day by day we grow stronger to fight the evils domestic and overseas. We are those that lead lives of determination and struggle small struggles against those that would rob us blind. It is the prayer that lives in every man the one God placed there a cry for freedom for all men. Yes some day that prayer will be answered but in little ways bit by bit in is a growing process not to be stopped by one election or even ten evil will be put down bit by bit until it is no more. One day the HCDO will be of the people and not rob the people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gary posted Message 1186 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 18, 2003 at 10:14:23 Subject: Re: HCDO will have a Rally for Unity August 25th Guess your assumption made another azz of you - idiot. Remember, if ever you wish to express your views directly, just give me a way to contact you - I would REALLY like that, coward ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just looking posted Message 1187 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 18, 2003 at 12:06:33 Subject: Heights mortician Gaughan & McGreevey's Trip to Ireland Didn't Heights mortician (and Ward C Councilman and County Exec Chief-of-Staff) Gaughan go with McGreevey on that trade (so to speak) trip to Ireland? Why did Gaughan tag along? Do the Emerald Isle's undertakers have advanced embalming methods that Gaughan brought back to improve the industry here in NJ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jailhouserock posted Message 1188 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 18, 2003 at 12:18:34 Subject: Re: HCDO will have a Rally for Unity August 25th Let me ask, do you let others know your racist views openly or do you simply hide behind a computer all your life like a coward??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gary -Sent to original poster posted Message 1189 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 18, 2003 at 12:22:00 Subject: Re: HCDO will have a Rally for Unity August 25th Guess your assumption made another azz of you - idiot. Remember, if ever you wish to express your views directly, just give me a way to contact you - I would REALLY like that, coward : Sorry to have posted such a blunt statement of your final solution forgive me for expressing my opinion in terms you actually understood. After all why should I have the freedom of speech when it interupts your ability to steal and corrupt the system. Please do not hurt me I fear your rath. Yes I'm an a$$hole for tolerating you and your corrupt friend for years. What kind of idiot was I believing in justice for all and the rule of law when clearly you are a barbarian of the worst kind one that lurks in the neither regions of legality out of the reach of justice. Those that support corruption will take everything including me away to where they can deal with me in a manner they find acceptable. By allowing the thieves to run the system we endanger our own lives and the lives of our children how many futures must be robbed before we say stop the madness. Yes they are corrutp dangerous people that must be stopped using the rule of law and elections and time after time they can steal that right of equal protection under the law but we will continue. The little man will prevail against the rule of the barbarian we will never bend our knee to please a despotic regime that steals and cheats the people for after all that is what makes us the people no knee bended to despots no knee bended to corruption. Take away everything else but you will never get my diginity it was never and will never be for sale. : : HUGE MISTAKE,,,,,,,,HUGE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Responsible spokesman posted Message 1190 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 18, 2003 at 12:40:58 Subject: Re: Heights mortician Gaughan & McGreevey's Trip to Ireland Nah, you're looking at it the wrong way around. Bill G was trying to sell them over there in Ireland in sending their stiffs to Jersey City. The idea is to convert the old Valley Fair lot on 440 into a cemetery. It's going to be kind of strange for a graveyard to be covered by asphalt, but it's going to be painted green to make it look more like grass so it will probably work out alright. This away the Irish get more space for housing and farms and we get some money to pay the bill for the toxic waste cleanup. : Didn't Heights mortician (and Ward C Councilman and County Exec Chief-of-Staff) Gaughan go with McGreevey on that trade (so to speak) trip to Ireland? : Why did Gaughan tag along? Do the Emerald Isle's undertakers have advanced embalming methods that Gaughan brought back to improve the industry here in NJ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Storm Trooper run and hide posted Message 1191 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 18, 2003 at 12:49:53 Subject: Re: HCDO will have a Rally for Unity August 25th Frightening that one would threaten someone for their opinion unless they had something to protect I only ask for my birth right of liberty shall I be beaten for that simple request. Or will you understand Freedom won by the blood of those that came before me will not go unaccounted for by threats and corruption. The fact of the matter is make sure for what you ask for you amy get it what is your information a visit may be in order you have been a bad boy perhaps you need a spanking. : Guess your assumption made another azz of you - idiot. Remember, if ever you wish to express your views directly, just give me a way to contact you - I would REALLY like that, coward : : : Sorry to have posted such a blunt statement of your final solution forgive me for expressing my opinion in terms you actually understood. After all why should I have the freedom of speech when it interupts your ability to steal and corrupt the system. Please do not hurt me I fear your rath. Yes I'm an a$$hole for tolerating you and your corrupt friend for years. What kind of idiot was I believing in justice for all and the rule of law when clearly you are a barbarian of the worst kind one that lurks in the neither regions of legality out of the reach of justice. Those that support corruption will take everything including me away to where they can deal with me in a manner they find acceptable. By allowing the thieves to run the system we endanger our own lives and the lives of our children how many futures must be robbed before we say stop the madness. Yes they are corrutp dangerous people that must be stopped using the rule of law and elections and time after time they can steal that right of equal protection under the law but we will continue. The little man will prevail against the rule of the barbarian we will never bend our knee to please a despotic regime that steals and cheats the people for after all that is what makes us the people no knee bended to despots no knee bended to corruption. Take away everything else but you will never get my diginity it was never and will never be for sale. : : : : HUGE MISTAKE,,,,,,,,HUGE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Icy Ghost posted Message 1192 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 18, 2003 at 12:52:55 Subject: Re: Heights mortician Gaughan & McGreevey's Trip to Ireland I believe they both use the same dating service and found a good supply of stiffs in Ireland for their purposes. McGreevey likes his women the same as he likes the voters dead and ready to do as he wishes. : Nah, you're looking at it the wrong way around. : Bill G was trying to sell them over there in Ireland in sending their stiffs to Jersey City. : The idea is to convert the old Valley Fair lot on 440 into a cemetery. It's going to be kind of strange for a graveyard to be covered by asphalt, but it's going to be painted green to make it look more like grass so it will probably work out alright. : This away the Irish get more space for housing and farms and we get some money to pay the bill for the toxic waste cleanup. : : : Didn't Heights mortician (and Ward C Councilman and County Exec Chief-of-Staff) Gaughan go with McGreevey on that trade (so to speak) trip to Ireland? : : Why did Gaughan tag along? Do the Emerald Isle's undertakers have advanced embalming methods that Gaughan brought back to improve the industry here in NJ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hiding Coward posted Message 1193 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 18, 2003 at 12:56:48 Subject: Re: HCDO will have a Rally for Unity August 25th Is it possible I offended someone well thats unfortunate since the HCDO has offended every voter in Ward F. In fact the racist August 25th court date should never have happened but the rule of law needs to be enforced however the fact that Doria chooses to contest leaves the argument of his racism all but confirmed. So just move on and peddle your trash elsewhere we the free have not need for the likes of you. Ward F has been robbed by you already : Let me ask, do you let others know your racist views openly or do you simply hide behind a computer all your life like a coward??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Heights makes right posted Message 1194 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 18, 2003 at 15:22:08 Subject: Re: Heights mortician Gaughan & McGreevey's Trip to Ireland Did he really go with the Gov. to Ireland? Did the state Democratic party pay Gaughan's bill like it paid for McGreevey after the Star Ledger reported how much the wingding cost? : Didn't Heights mortician (and Ward C Councilman and County Exec Chief-of-Staff) Gaughan go with McGreevey on that trade (so to speak) trip to Ireland? : Why did Gaughan tag along? Do the Emerald Isle's undertakers have advanced embalming methods that Gaughan brought back to improve the industry here in NJ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** patomelia posted Message 1195 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 18, 2003 at 15:35:48 Subject: Where were you when the lights went out? That's one of the topics for tonites show, How did you get home? what did you eat? how did you pass the time in the dark? all this and more tonite 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio, Hudson County's Talking toll free to call and have your voice heard! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mrs Turner posted Message 1196 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 19, 2003 at 04:01:32 Subject: Pass go..collect $200 Oh no Rene Abreu has made a plea? Looks like no jail time for him or his lady. Albio Sires and Nick Sacco must be breathing a little better now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1197 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 19, 2003 at 09:42:33 Subject: The McGreevey Team "The State Governor, Jim Mcgreevey, appointed Roger Chugh, one of his close confidants, as Assistant Secretary of State, making him the third most influential official in the administration." Please see the Link for more information. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1198 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 19, 2003 at 09:55:00 Subject: Financial Times Coverage of Jaime's Trip to Vietnam Financial Times Information Global News Wire - Asia Africa Intelligence Wire Vietnam News Briefs August 18, 2003 POLITICS & LAW: VISITING JERSEY CITY DEPUTY MAYOR PROTESTS US HOUSE RIGHTS BILL The Deputy Mayor of Jersey City in the US, Jaime Vasquez, said he has seen "a reality totally different from what the US thinks about Vietnam" during his ongoing visit to the country. A veteran of the Vietnam War, he said that upon his return to the US he would immediately meet with Chris Smith, author of the Vietnam Human Rights Bill, who is also from New Jersey State, to convince him to abandon the bill, which is expected to be presented to a hearing before the External Affairs Committee of the US House of Representatives in either September or early October. Expressing his deep impressions after visiting the Vietnamese children of soldiers infected with Orange Agent at the Vietnam Friendship Village, Mr Vasquez said "we battered Vietnam, but have done nothing to reconstruct the country". Mr Vasquez said he witnessed thousands of people holding a ceremony at the Hanoi Church, which, he said, contradicts the view of Mr Smith that there is "no religion in Vietnam." "The US Government should assist Vietnam instead of forcing it to follow what it wants", said the deputy mayor, citing the establishment of tens of thousands of new businesses as evidence that Vietnam is on the right track. Vietnam should benefit the same trade relations with the US as China now has, he said, adding that it being a communist country should not be a reason for rejection in the US. This is the second visit by Mr Vasquez to Vietnam, and is aimed at finding out the truth about the country. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rebuild America First not Hanoi posted Message 1199 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 19, 2003 at 12:04:09 Subject: Re: Financial Times Coverage of Jaime's Trip to Vietnam Instead of flying off to exotic fact finding tours do your job rebuild Jersey City. Why would Jaime go to Viet Nam does Jersey City have any econmic relationship or is he just expanding his portfolio to foreign affairs. Either way why should his view be valid compared to the US State Departments view. Considering all the work that needs to be done in Jersey City what purpose does his input on Viet Nam add. Who really cares what a Communist nation does other than in a military sense. We the people of Jersey City have not empowered this person with a charge to visit Viet Nam and make comments about it status. Who does he work for Jersey City or Hanoi? : Financial Times Information : : Global News Wire - Asia Africa Intelligence Wire : Vietnam News Briefs : August 18, 2003 : POLITICS & LAW: VISITING JERSEY CITY DEPUTY MAYOR PROTESTS US HOUSE RIGHTS BILL : The Deputy Mayor of Jersey City in the US, Jaime Vasquez, said he has seen "a reality totally different from what the US thinks about Vietnam" during his ongoing visit to the country. : A veteran of the Vietnam War, he said that upon his return to the US he would immediately meet with Chris Smith, author of the Vietnam Human Rights Bill, who is also from New Jersey State, to convince him to abandon the bill, which is expected to be presented to a hearing before the External Affairs Committee of the US House of Representatives in either September or early October. Expressing his deep impressions after visiting the Vietnamese children of soldiers infected with Orange Agent at the Vietnam Friendship Village, Mr Vasquez said "we battered Vietnam, but have done nothing to reconstruct the country". : Mr Vasquez said he witnessed thousands of people holding a ceremony at the Hanoi Church, which, he said, contradicts the view of Mr Smith that there is "no religion in Vietnam." : "The US Government should assist Vietnam instead of forcing it to follow what it wants", said the deputy mayor, citing the establishment of tens of thousands of new businesses as evidence that Vietnam is on the right track. : Vietnam should benefit the same trade relations with the US as China now has, he said, adding that it being a communist country should not be a reason for rejection in the US. : This is the second visit by Mr Vasquez to Vietnam, and is aimed at finding out the truth about the country. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Look What I did on my summer vacation posted Message 1200 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 19, 2003 at 12:06:36 Subject: Re: Financial Times Coverage of Jaime's Trip to Vietnam So who si paying for this world tour Jersey City Taxpayers, Special Interest Groups, or someone unknown. : Financial Times Information : : Global News Wire - Asia Africa Intelligence Wire : Vietnam News Briefs : August 18, 2003 : POLITICS & LAW: VISITING JERSEY CITY DEPUTY MAYOR PROTESTS US HOUSE RIGHTS BILL : The Deputy Mayor of Jersey City in the US, Jaime Vasquez, said he has seen "a reality totally different from what the US thinks about Vietnam" during his ongoing visit to the country. : A veteran of the Vietnam War, he said that upon his return to the US he would immediately meet with Chris Smith, author of the Vietnam Human Rights Bill, who is also from New Jersey State, to convince him to abandon the bill, which is expected to be presented to a hearing before the External Affairs Committee of the US House of Representatives in either September or early October. Expressing his deep impressions after visiting the Vietnamese children of soldiers infected with Orange Agent at the Vietnam Friendship Village, Mr Vasquez said "we battered Vietnam, but have done nothing to reconstruct the country". : Mr Vasquez said he witnessed thousands of people holding a ceremony at the Hanoi Church, which, he said, contradicts the view of Mr Smith that there is "no religion in Vietnam." : "The US Government should assist Vietnam instead of forcing it to follow what it wants", said the deputy mayor, citing the establishment of tens of thousands of new businesses as evidence that Vietnam is on the right track. : Vietnam should benefit the same trade relations with the US as China now has, he said, adding that it being a communist country should not be a reason for rejection in the US. : This is the second visit by Mr Vasquez to Vietnam, and is aimed at finding out the truth about the country. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HOT CHILI posted Message 1201 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 21, 2003 at 15:51:19 Subject: What will happen? What is going to happen if Cunigham loses the battle in the courtroom this monday? His only option will be to run as a republican? Will he change? Will the people follow him? ***************** End Of Article ****************** 3for5 posted Message 1202 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 21, 2003 at 17:10:12 Subject: Re: What will happen? Anybody know the ins and outs of the Sore Loser law? If you lose a primary, you can't run as an Independent in the general election is how I read it. But what if a judge rules an primary invaild, does that count as a loss and you still can't run as an Independent? Do you have to declare as a Republican or can you jump on the Green or some other 3rd Party bandwagon? What's the deadline for declaring yourself as running again, anyhow? : What is going to happen if Cunigham loses the battle in the courtroom this monday? His only option will be to run as a republican? Will he change? Will the people follow him? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer-Urban Times News posted Message 1203 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 21, 2003 at 17:37:26 Subject: COUNTY PAYS UP $850K FOR MACK DADDY MENENDEZ’ PET VENDOR Steven Glazer-Urban Times News-email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1204 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 21, 2003 at 18:43:07 Subject: And they didn't like Fr. Azzarto's penmanship! For more on Frank Hague, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** If I keep scratching my head I'm going to lose the little bit of hair that I got left. posted Message 1205 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 21, 2003 at 19:04:51 Subject: Re: COUNTY PAYS UP $850K FOR MACK DADDY MENENDEZ’ PET VENDOR Didn't 595 Newark dust off Bob Magro (at 25k per 3 months) after Club 280 sent him packing? What is Magro doing to make himself useful to the tax paying public? : : Steven Glazer-Urban Times News-email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** The old dust is also at 280 posted Message 1206 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 21, 2003 at 20:10:12 Subject: Re: COUNTY PAYS UP $850K FOR MACK DADDY MENENDEZ’ PET VENDOR Lets talk about bringing the dead back to life: Mark Munley Gerri McCann Maggie Doyle should we go on? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thanks, but no thanks posted Message 1207 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 22, 2003 at 10:57:38 Subject: Re: COUNTY PAYS UP $850K FOR MACK DADDY MENENDEZ’ PET VENDOR Let me get this straight, Honest Al, right now don't have the ways or means of doing the job, but he guesses that he can pull it off if the Degise just signs right here on the dotted line? And we is supposed to just drop down in gratitude that Poreda is promising to hire residents even though he's got no track record? Poreda should be looking for investors, not expecting the county taxpayers to set him up in business out of the blue. : : Steven Glazer-Urban Times News-email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bend no knee to the corrupt machine form a New County posted Message 1208 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 22, 2003 at 11:16:11 Subject: Gulag Camp Hudson County Form a New County We the free the brave and those that have died for freedom in nations all over the globe will never bend to the will of the corrupt thieves that are stealing money paid by the free people of Hudson County. Jersey City must become its own county and seperate from Hudson County in order to save it from the collaspe that is comming. By seperating totally from Hudson County and declaring all municpal and politcal sub-divisions created under the past regime of Hudson County Jersey City can obtain its freedom from the oppression of the HCDO. Seperate from Hudson County Form a New County ***************** End Of Article ****************** Call for a New County Seperate and Liberate posted Message 1209 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 22, 2003 at 11:18:02 Subject: JERSEY CITY a Seperate County Seperate Jersey City from Hudson County get rid of the Corruption of the HCDO. Stop the stealing of tax monies and form a NEW COUNTY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Petition to form a NEW COUNTY posted Message 1210 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 22, 2003 at 11:19:40 Subject: End the HCDO DESPOTS FORM A NEW COUNTY Sign the petition to form a New County stop the HCDO and remove Jersey City from the hands of those that would take all it has. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Call for Freedom Call for a new and seperate County posted Message 1211 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 22, 2003 at 11:22:12 Subject: End Corruption start a New County Petition for a New County Jersey City Residents end the intolerable rule of the HCDO over your lives Sign the petition for a NEW COUNTY. If we all sign we will not have to submitt to their theft of oru assets Free Jersey City form the Jersey City County. ***************** End Of Article ****************** PAUL BYRNE posted Message 1212 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 22, 2003 at 11:49:40 Subject: Re: COUNTY PAYS UP $850K FOR MACK DADDY MENENDEZ’ PET VENDOR AL YOU FORGOT YOUR LETTER OF RECOMENDATION FROM PAUL BYRNE!!! : : Steven Glazer-Urban Times News-email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE posted Message 1213 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 22, 2003 at 11:53:17 Subject: PAUL BYRNE AL YOU FORGOT YOUR LETTER OF RECOMENDATION FROM PAUL BYRNE!!! : : Steven Glazer-Urban Times News-email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cowboy posted Message 1214 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 22, 2003 at 18:01:00 Subject: Re: What will happen? If Glenn declares as a republican I wonder if the state GOP will give Jose Arango a medal or have him sent to siberia. : What is going to happen if Cunigham loses the battle in the courtroom this monday? His only option will be to run as a republican? Will he change? Will the people follow him? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer-Urban Times News posted Message 1215 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 22, 2003 at 18:02:04 Subject: WWW.NJLOWESTBID.COM HAS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP: IT’S CHEAPER, IT’S BETTER-AND NOBODY WANTS IT SYSTEM WORKS BUT GOVERNMENT NOT WORKING SYSTEM Steven Glazer-Urban Times News-email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bust a nut posted Message 1216 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2003 at 23:09:30 Subject: Re: WWW.NJLOWESTBID.COM HAS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP: IT’S CHEAPER, IT’S BETTER-AND NOBODY WANTS IT It certainly sounds like a great idea: simple, obvious, and badly needed. NJBlowjob.com provides an ebay-style reverse auction service for government ejaculation of any and all services, soup to nuts. New Jersey law requires all governmental units to solicit competitive bids for all goods and services they purchase costing more than $.75 The idea is to reduce the cost of government, says co-founder Daren Maloney. Maloney is Chief Financial Officer of West New York, and former purchasing agent of Hudson County. The company has attracted attention recently because of its rented location in the office occupied by Larry Flint. Flint is the Hoboken masturbator who just pleaded guilty to a federal sex charge after about a year during which it is thought that he cooperated with the ongoing corruption investigation. “We just rented some space there. Now, of course, we wish we had not and we are in the process of moving. Flint has nothing to do with the company, nor does any other elected or appointed official with the exception of the founding partners,” said Maloney. The founders planned to make money by charging a fee, ranging from 1% to 3% to the winning suppliers after they won condom awards and got laid. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jake posted Message 1217 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2003 at 14:01:18 Subject: Never Have So Few Taken So Much From So Many For So Long in Return for So Little. Long Live HCDO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandro Graffi posted Message 1218 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2003 at 16:15:00 Subject: Senator Kenny Thank you Senator Kenny for introducing a bill to eliminate the protection the NJ courts have given to the rich insurance companies by requiring that the injured person prove he can't work or is in a wheelchair to collect damages against the at fault driver. Buuy the right to sue in NJ or you get nothing even if you have a shoulder or knee surgery. BOOS to SENATOR GERALD CARDINALE that proposed a bill to entirely eliminate the right to sue in NJ. His bill won't even let you buy the right to sue. If you die under his bill from a drunk driver in a car crash, his bill mandatyes that you get absolutely NOTHING-no money not even a sorry. Who wins??? The Insurance companies!!! Yea Senator Kenny ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 1219 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2003 at 16:09:57 Subject: Tonites topics JC's Employment and Training scandel, Hudson County drops the ball with States 911 Memorial artists contest, JC's pothole killer all City's should have this thing!all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 1220 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2003 at 16:14:38 Subject: From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 Steven Glazer sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Curious posted Message 1221 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2003 at 17:59:10 Subject: Re: From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 Freedom is not given to the press...It falls under freedom of speech! In addition, this is not an absolute freedom! Writers should remember this fact. If you violate somebody else’s right to privacy, you should be held accountable. When writers publish a story or the television news media airs a story they should be held accountable to use credible sources. ***************** End Of Article ****************** hotflorida posted Message 1222 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2003 at 19:09:33 Subject: Hot Girl Check this out! The posters are awesome! ***************** End Of Article ****************** hotflorida posted Message 1223 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2003 at 19:10:26 Subject: Hot Girl Check this out! The posters are awesome! ***************** End Of Article ****************** A reminder posted Message 1224 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2003 at 20:22:24 Subject: Re: From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 Article VI of the American Society Of Newspaper Editors states: "..Journalism should respect the rights of people involved in the news, observe the common standards of decency and stand accountable to the public for fairness and accuracy of their news report." ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1225 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2003 at 21:03:20 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HOBOKEN EDDIE posted Message 1226 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2003 at 21:12:27 Subject: NEWS FLASH NOT SURE WHERE THIS GLAZER IDIOT GETS HIS INFORMATION FROM BUT, KAY LICAUSI IS NOT PREGNANT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1227 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2003 at 21:40:55 Subject: GET NJ Does Not Play Favorites! I think I will dispute this premise offered by Mr. Olszewski. I read that this board will delete libelous posts. In that case, why is Mr. Glazer and the Urban Times News allowed to post unsubstantiated rumors and innuendoes on an ongoing basis. Their last post makes vile allegations regarding Robert Menendez and Kay Licausi. None of the allegations being supported by fact. I am not naive. I realize that the Internet is a vehicle for unsubstantiated allegations, untruths and rumors. However, it seems that this board would prefer to hide behind the excuse that it gives the other side their fair chance to post similar unsubstantiated allegations, untruths and rumors. And then allow the UTN to post what they want. If I were a cynic (and a bit paranoid) I might think this was part of some vast right wing conspiracy. Wouldn't it be clever for Mr. Schundler's protege (and ex-webmaster) to allow one faction of the Democartic party to post scurrilous rumors, in the hope they they would further the rift in Democratic ranks and ultimately serve the political ends of Mr. Schundler. But of course, this board is fair and impartial, and would never stoop to anything like that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer the Dirt Bag posted Message 1228 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2003 at 22:39:57 Subject: Re: From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 : Steven Glazer sglazer@urbantimesnews.com Just when you think this low life can't get any lower he surprises you by proving he's a bigger bag of turds then you'd ever believe. I hope there is a special place in hell for this vermin and hope Judge d'Italia gives Glenn and Bobby and Joe and the rest just what they deserve. And hey Steve when was the last time you saw your kids? And why did your wife show you the door? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Big Al posted Message 1229 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2003 at 22:44:09 Subject: Re: From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 : Steven Glazer sglazer@urbantimesnews.com I never never thought anyone could replace Paulie Byrne as the sleaziest of all politicians but Glazer has done it. When is someone going to deal with this punk. Either sue him or beat the crap out of him. Or both. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1230 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2003 at 09:46:40 Subject: NOW IT CAN BE REVEALED!!! WHO IS CHAKOTAY? "...part of some vast right wing conspiracy." IT'S HILLARY CLINTON!!!! : I think I will dispute this premise offered by Mr. Olszewski. : I read that this board will delete libelous posts. In that case, why is Mr. Glazer and the Urban Times News allowed to post unsubstantiated rumors and innuendoes on an ongoing basis. Their last post makes vile allegations regarding Robert Menendez and Kay Licausi. None of the allegations being supported by fact. : I am not naive. I realize that the Internet is a vehicle for unsubstantiated allegations, untruths and rumors. However, it seems that this board would prefer to hide behind the excuse that it gives the other side their fair chance to post similar unsubstantiated allegations, untruths and rumors. And then allow the UTN to post what they want. : If I were a cynic (and a bit paranoid) I might think this was part of some vast right wing conspiracy. Wouldn't it be clever for Mr. Schundler's protege (and ex-webmaster) to allow one faction of the Democartic party to post scurrilous rumors, in the hope they they would further the rift in Democratic ranks and ultimately serve the political ends of Mr. Schundler. : But of course, this board is fair and impartial, and would never stoop to anything like that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RICO THE MAN posted Message 1231 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2003 at 15:04:23 Subject: Pillow Talk Kay's Pillow Served It's Purpose. Don't Ever Forget It's all about R.I.C.O. and THE MAN. : NOT SURE WHERE THIS GLAZER IDIOT GETS HIS INFORMATION FROM BUT, : KAY LICAUSI IS NOT PREGNANT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** T-Serum posted Message 1232 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2003 at 20:04:19 Subject: Target Letters, all around Target letters have just gone to Nick Sacco, Bernie Kenny, and Donald Scarinci. This is gonna be a big one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** T-Serum posted Message 1233 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2003 at 20:52:42 Subject: Revised post : Target letters have just gone to Bobby Jackson, Joe Cardwell, and the Urban Times News. This is gonna be a big one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ray Burr posted Message 1234 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2003 at 20:59:16 Subject: The Cunningham Defense What a great defense. Genova is saying "Yeh, Bobby Jackson and Joe Cardwell are dumber than dirt, and Cunningham didn't have a clue as to what was going on , but stupid isn't a crime so the election should stand." Elnardo Webster Jr. acts like Alconquin J. Calhoun and provides the comic relief. Can't wait till next week. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1235 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2003 at 21:19:32 Subject: Re: NOW IT CAN BE REVEALED!!! WHO IS CHAKOTAY? OH NO !!!! My secret identity has been revealed !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Monica posted Message 1236 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2003 at 21:23:54 Subject: Re: NOW IT CAN BE REVEALED!!! WHO IS CHAKOTAY? I knew it..........................................your my hero! ***************** End Of Article ****************** T-Serum posted Message 1237 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2003 at 10:12:46 Subject: Re: The Cunningham Defense-As in Amos n Andy? : What a great defense. Genova is saying "Yeh, Bobby Jackson and Joe Cardwell are dumber than dirt, and Cunningham didn't have a clue as to what was going on , but stupid isn't a crime so the election should stand." Elnardo Webster Jr. acts like Alconquin J. Calhoun and provides the comic relief. Can't wait till next week. Would that be Algonquin J. Calhoun? The lawyer friend of Amos 'n Andy? What message do you THINK you are sending? Where are you coming from? ***************** End Of Article ****************** On The Erie posted Message 1238 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2003 at 10:18:12 Subject: Re: The Cunningham Defense-As in Amos n Andy? Once the day is done, they start pulling the hoods and sheets out of the closets. : : What a great defense. Genova is saying "Yeh, Bobby Jackson and Joe Cardwell are dumber than dirt, and Cunningham didn't have a clue as to what was going on , but stupid isn't a crime so the election should stand." Elnardo Webster Jr. acts like Alconquin J. Calhoun and provides the comic relief. Can't wait till next week. : Would that be Algonquin J. Calhoun? The lawyer friend of Amos 'n Andy? What message do you THINK you are sending? Where are you coming from? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1239 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2003 at 11:45:05 Subject: What is a Target Letter? A Target Letter is an investigative technique of the U.S Attorney's Office. Even though a particular Target Letter might bear a resemblance to a Miranda Warning, there is no legal requirement for the U.s. Attorney to give a Target Letter. The U.S. Department of Justice Web Site contains a sample Target Letter (please see the Link below). Again, as it is not a legal structure, Target Letters need not resemble the specimen on the Federal Web Site at all. For instance, individuals under investigation, but not scheduled to appear before a Grand Jury may also receive a Target Letter. The Target Letters of the U.S. Attorney's Offices within a region will probably be more similar in wording than like documents from outside that region. One of the purposes of a Target Letter -- as seen in the sample -- is to act as an umbrella for evidence. Once put on notice, the recipient of a Target Letter then bears the responsibility for securing records and all other potential items of interest to the U.S. Attorney and staff. Certainly after the delivery of a Target Letter, shredding files is a criminal act. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gone Fishing posted Message 1240 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2003 at 16:33:01 Subject: New Jersey City to assist with school buses New Jersey City to assist with school buses Thursday August 28 2003 by Elwin Francis The City of New Jersey will be donating two school buses to Antigua & Barbuda as part of the sister/city agreement, which was signed by the Mayor of New Jersey, Glenn Cunningham and Prime Minister Lester Bird on 1 Nov. last year. Deputy Mayor of Jersey City Carl Czaplicki, who recently got married in Antigua, said arrangements are being made with the Sidewalk University in New Jersey to deliver the buses to Antigua shortly. "Just before we left New Jersey last Wednesday we were speaking with officials of Sidewalk University to finalise details with regards to the two buses that Jersey City is going to donate to Antigua. We decided to deliver the buses to Antigua through Sidewalk University," Czaplicki said. "In this way Antigua will be working with an organisation in getting the buses as opposed to the office of the mayor sending it down to Antigua. So before we came to Antigua we were working out the logistics and I don"t think it will be too long of a wait before that becomes a reality," he added. Four Antiguans who are executive officers at Sidewalk University, which is a class one non-profit organisation, were the brainchild of the sister/city agreement. They are President Professor Andy Howell, Vice-President Ken Samuel, Dr. Steveroy Jacobs and Professor Nedwell. Czaplicki said the donation of the buses is all part of solidifying the sister/city agreement between both parties. "The donation of the buses is a result of the sister/city agreement, in fact the visit of Mayor Cunningham to Antigua and PM Bird's visit to New Jersey City solidified the agreement," Czaplicki said. "Jersey City has a very strong and growing, vibrant Caribbean population and people of Antigua make up a good percentage of our Caribbean population, so when we talk about sister/city it is truly a sister/city governmental relationship in many different ways," he added. Director of Economic Opportunity for Jersey City, Sonia Schulman, who was also on a recent visit to Antigua, said both parties could benefit from the relationship. "Jersey City is growing economically in leaps and bounds. What was once just waterfront development has now transposed itself throughout the whole city. I think we can share information with Antigua & Barbuda and become good working partners so we can move ahead together. We both have ideas and information we can give each other," Schulman said. Czaplicki said Antigua & Barbuda could also benefit economically from its relationship with Jersey City. "With that growth in Jersey City we see a lot of new companies and old companies expanding. A lot of those companies also have international recognition. "There may very well come a time when economic offers and opportunities will open up to Antigua from these companies," Czaplicki noted. "If these companies are seeking to branch out and invest in the Caribbean, because of our relationship we will be very much inclined to recommend Antigua for possible investment," he added. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The real reason..................................................................... posted Message 1241 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2003 at 17:25:57 Subject: Re: New Jersey City to assist with school buses So lets see: Free Hotel Rooms Free Food Money In Jackson's Pocket Sure sounds like a sweet deal Carl! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anthony covering his A$$ posted Message 1242 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2003 at 18:07:20 Subject: Re: What is a Target Letter? : A Target Letter is an investigative technique of the U.S Attorney's Office. Even though a particular Target Letter might bear a resemblance to a Miranda Warning, there is no legal requirement for the U.S. Attorney to give a Target Letter. : The U.S. Department of Justice Web Site contains a sample Target Letter (please see the Link below). Again, as it is not a legal structure, Target Letters need not resemble the specimen on the Federal Web Site at all. For instance, individuals under investigation, but not scheduled to appear before a Grand Jury may also receive a Target Letter. The Target Letters of the U.S. Attorney's Offices within a region will probably be more similar in wording than like documents from outside that region. : One of the purposes of a Target Letter -- as seen in the sample -- is to act as an umbrella for evidence. Once put on notice, the recipient of a Target Letter then assumes the responsibility for securing records and all other potential items of interest to the U.S. Attorney and staff. Certainly after the delivery of a Target Letter, shredding files is a criminal act. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wonderer posted Message 1243 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2003 at 18:59:44 Subject: Re: WWW.NJLOWESTBID.COM HAS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP: IT’S CHEAPER, IT’S BETTER-AND NOBODY WANTS IT : SYSTEM WORKS BUT GOVERNMENT NOT WORKING SYSTEM : Steven Glazer-Urban Times News-email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com Robert Byrne? Any relation to Paul Byrne? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Facts? posted Message 1244 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2003 at 19:09:55 Subject: Re: WWW.NJLOWESTBID.COM HAS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP: IT’S CHEAPER, IT’S BETTER-AND NOBODY WANTS IT How Funny! Sounds like sour grapes to me!! Maybe the Freeholders are quivering by AL's ridiculous threats to sue? Here is a quarter and a tissue..Now go tell someone who cares!! You Putz! Oh, and Steve....I wonder why you wrote that story? For one, it contains no facts, and two, I happened to notice the ad for NJlowestbid on the same page as the story. You could have at least moved it to another page so it did not look so obvious....Your a putz too!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Target Letter Woodbridge posted Message 1245 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2003 at 09:11:56 Subject: Rumor has it a Woodbridge Investigation Rumor has it a Woodbridge Investigation will prompt a Target Letter to one of its former mayors namely the govenor. Imagine that the govenor is under investigation for what I cannot imagine. Do we really think that the govenor would be involved in anything that would prompt a letter of this nature no never. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1246 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2003 at 09:25:54 Subject: The McGreevey Team : Rumor has it a Woodbridge Investigation will prompt a Target Letter to one of its former mayors namely the govenor. Imagine that the govenor is under investigation for what I cannot imagine. Do we really think that the govenor would be involved in anything that would prompt a letter of this nature no never. ***************** End Of Article ****************** PS# posted Message 1247 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2003 at 10:01:08 Subject: St Peter's Prep Not to Get Taxpayer 250K State withholding $500,000 in aid for two Roman Catholic schools The Associated Press 8/29/2003, 7:42 a.m. ET TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — The state has delayed the release of $500,000 that was set aside for two Roman Catholic high schools at the behest of two state lawmakers. The decision announced Thursday came as the American Civil Liberties Union was planning to seek a temporary restraining order to block the grants, claiming it was a violation of the constitutionally mandated separation of church and state. However, the state agreed to withhold the funds before Superior Court Judge Andrew Smithson could rule on the issue. The money was to be evenly divided between St. Peter's Preparatory School in Jersey City and Seton Hall Preparatory School in West Orange, two all-boys schools that planned to use the funds for capital improvements. It was added to the state budget June 15 — two weeks before the spending plan was adopted — at the request of Sen. Bernard Kenny, D-Hudson, and Democratic Senate President Richard Codey, who represents Essex County. Codey said he was annoyed that the ACLU would challenge the expenditure, noting that he also worked to get a $100,000 state grant for the Jewish Community Center in West Orange 10 years ago when it was engaged in a capital expansion project. "I've fought hard and have been able to win money for the Jewish Community Center and numerous African-American churches for social programs," Codey told The Star-Ledger of Newark for Friday's editions. "Whether it is Seton Hall or somewhere else, they service children of all religions." Kenny, who sits on the Budget and Appropriations Committee, has also said there was nothing improper about the grant. One of his sons attends St. Peter's and another has graduated from the school. St. Peter's officials plan to put the money toward a $2 million artificial-turf playing field across the street from the school, while Seton Hall Prep wants to put its share toward a $2.2 million expansion project that would include three new classrooms, a doubling in size of its cafeteria and the expansion of the locker room area. Edward Barocas, senior staff attorney for the ACLU, said the problem is that the money is only going to the two schools and is not available to others. "It should be noted that funds often flow to religious schools from accepted government programs that are both neutral and generally available to all schools or all students," he said. "These grants, however, are neither neutral toward religion ... nor generally available." Peter Aseltine, a spokesman for the state Attorney General's Office, declined to comment on the matter because the state had not yet had a chance to file its response with the court. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Justice For All posted Message 1248 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2003 at 11:19:14 Subject: Another Kenny Scam Exposed Thank God Another Scam by Bernie Kenny has been exposed. Special thanks to all those who had the courage to print the original story exposing this blatant ripoff of the taxpayers. : State withholding $500,000 in aid for two Roman Catholic schools : The Associated Press : 8/29/2003, 7:42 a.m. ET : TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — The state has delayed the release of $500,000 that was set aside for two Roman Catholic high schools at the behest of two state lawmakers. : The decision announced Thursday came as the American Civil Liberties Union was planning to seek a temporary restraining order to block the grants, claiming it was a violation of the constitutionally mandated separation of church and state. However, the state agreed to withhold the funds before Superior Court Judge Andrew Smithson could rule on the issue. : The money was to be evenly divided between St. Peter's Preparatory School in Jersey City and Seton Hall Preparatory School in West Orange, two all-boys schools that planned to use the funds for capital improvements. It was added to the state budget June 15 — two weeks before the spending plan was adopted — at the request of Sen. Bernard Kenny, D-Hudson, and Democratic Senate President Richard Codey, who represents Essex County. : Codey said he was annoyed that the ACLU would challenge the expenditure, noting that he also worked to get a $100,000 state grant for the Jewish Community Center in West Orange 10 years ago when it was engaged in a capital expansion project. : "I've fought hard and have been able to win money for the Jewish Community Center and numerous African-American churches for social programs," Codey told The Star-Ledger of Newark for Friday's editions. "Whether it is Seton Hall or somewhere else, they service children of all religions." : Kenny, who sits on the Budget and Appropriations Committee, has also said there was nothing improper about the grant. One of his sons attends St. Peter's and another has graduated from the school. : St. Peter's officials plan to put the money toward a $2 million artificial-turf playing field across the street from the school, while Seton Hall Prep wants to put its share toward a $2.2 million expansion project that would include three new classrooms, a doubling in size of its cafeteria and the expansion of the locker room area. : Edward Barocas, senior staff attorney for the ACLU, said the problem is that the money is only going to the two schools and is not available to others. : "It should be noted that funds often flow to religious schools from accepted government programs that are both neutral and generally available to all schools or all students," he said. "These grants, however, are neither neutral toward religion ... nor generally available." : Peter Aseltine, a spokesman for the state Attorney General's Office, declined to comment on the matter because the state had not yet had a chance to file its response with the court. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Party Is OVER posted Message 1249 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2003 at 14:35:41 Subject: FEDS SEIZE DEMOCRATS' RECORDS U.S. SEEKING DEMOCRATS' RECORDS Friday, August 29, 2003 By JEFF PILLETS and CHARLES STILE TRENTON BUREAU Federal authorities have subpoenaed records from the Democratic State Committee as part of their probe into the activities of Rajesh "Roger" Chugh, a former fund-raiser for Governor McGreevey, two party officials confirmed. The subpoena, delivered by the FBI on Tuesday, sought all transactions involving Chugh, who resigned from a Department of State post in June. The subpoena asked for records of payments or commissions Chugh received as a party fund-raiser, an official said. The subpoena also sought records of all contributions Chugh collected for Victory 2001, the joint fund-raising committee for the state Democratic party and McGreevey's gubernatorial campaign. Bonnie Watson Coleman, the Democratic State Committee chairwoman, confirmed the subpoena, but declined to provide further information. She did say, though, that the subpoena focused on Chugh. One official said McGreevey was forced to cancel a planned visit to the Trenton headquarters of the state committee after federal authorities called, notifying them that federal agents would be arriving later that day. "It wouldn't look good if the governor met up with the feds,'' said a Democratic source familiar with the subpoena. Chugh, a 49-year-old Asian Indian émigré, became the target of state and federal probes this month after The Record reported that he pressured Indian business owners in Middlesex County for political contributions. Chugh allegedly threatened to block building permit and zoning variances of Asian-American shopkeepers in Woodbridge Township unless they made political contributions to the Democrats. Chugh raised an estimated $1 million for McGreevey and the Democrats from 1997 to 2001. Leading Democrats and key members of the Indian community told The Record that they had warned McGreevey that Chugh had a long, troubled history as a businessman and was using unethical fund-raising practices. McGreevey has called the allegations "rubbish" and called his campaign the cleanest in New Jersey history. E-mail: pillets@northjersey.com and stile@northjersey.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** MOVING LIPS posted Message 1250 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2003 at 17:32:54 Subject: BOBBY JACKSON Exposed HOW CAN YOU TELL IF BOBBY JACKSON IS TELLING THE TRUTH.. WHEN HIS LIPS AREN'T MOVING. GREAT PIECE - HAPPY READING http://www.getnj.com/onlygameintown/messages/544.shtml ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pamrapo posted Message 1251 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2003 at 19:53:13 Subject: What do you get . . . What do you get when you put an albatross around the neck of an albatross? THE McGREEVEY TEAM!!!! : U.S. SEEKING DEMOCRATS' RECORDS : Friday, August 29, 2003 : By JEFF PILLETS and CHARLES STILE : TRENTON BUREAU : : Federal authorities have subpoenaed records from the Democratic State Committee as part of their probe into the activities of Rajesh "Roger" Chugh, a former fund-raiser for Governor McGreevey, two party officials confirmed. : The subpoena, delivered by the FBI on Tuesday, sought all transactions involving Chugh, who resigned from a Department of State post in June. : The subpoena asked for records of payments or commissions Chugh received as a party fund-raiser, an official said. : The subpoena also sought records of all contributions Chugh collected for Victory 2001, the joint fund-raising committee for the state Democratic party and McGreevey's gubernatorial campaign. : Bonnie Watson Coleman, the Democratic State Committee chairwoman, confirmed the subpoena, but declined to provide further information. She did say, though, that the subpoena focused on Chugh. : One official said McGreevey was forced to cancel a planned visit to the Trenton headquarters of the state committee after federal authorities called, notifying them that federal agents would be arriving later that day. : "It wouldn't look good if the governor met up with the feds,'' said a Democratic source familiar with the subpoena. : Chugh, a 49-year-old Asian Indian émigré, became the target of state and federal probes this month after The Record reported that he pressured Indian business owners in Middlesex County for political contributions. : Chugh allegedly threatened to block building permit and zoning variances of Asian-American shopkeepers in Woodbridge Township unless they made political contributions to the Democrats. : Chugh raised an estimated $1 million for McGreevey and the Democrats from 1997 to 2001. : Leading Democrats and key members of the Indian community told The Record that they had warned McGreevey that Chugh had a long, troubled history as a businessman and was using unethical fund-raising practices. : McGreevey has called the allegations "rubbish" and called his campaign the cleanest in New Jersey history. : E-mail: pillets@northjersey.com and stile@northjersey.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 1252 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2003 at 20:17:16 Subject: Re: WWW.NJLOWESTBID.COM HAS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP: IT’S CHEAPER, IT’S BETTER-AND NOBODY WANTS IT : How Funny! Sounds like sour grapes to me!! Maybe the Freeholders are quivering by AL's ridiculous threats to sue? Here is a quarter and a tissue..Now go tell someone who cares!! You Putz! : Oh, and Steve....I wonder why you wrote that story? For one, it contains no facts, and two, I happened to notice the ad for NJlowestbid on the same page as the story. You could have at least moved it to another page so it did not look so obvious....Your a putz too!!! May I first respectfully suggest that you learn to read and then read the story again and you just might find a fact or two. Then with your new skills look again at the "ad" you take exception to and you will find that it is a screen capture of NJLowestbid.com's website. Now that you can read just a bit, maybe we could get you to write at an adult level. "You're a putz too!", NOT..."Your a putz too!!!" And last, may I also respectfully suggest that you eat my putz. You would probably like it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Barf posted Message 1253 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2003 at 00:16:50 Subject: Re: WWW.NJLOWESTBID.COM HAS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP: IT’S CHEAPER, IT’S BETTER-AND NOBODY WANTS IT : : How Funny! Sounds like sour grapes to me!! Maybe the Freeholders are quivering by AL's ridiculous threats to sue? Here is a quarter and a tissue..Now go tell someone who cares!! You Putz! : : Oh, and Steve....I wonder why you wrote that story? For one, it contains no facts, and two, I happened to notice the ad for NJlowestbid on the same page as the story. You could have at least moved it to another page so it did not look so obvious....Your a putz too!!! : : May I first respectfully suggest that you learn to read and then read the story again and you just might find a fact or two. Then with your new skills look again at the "ad" you take exception to and you will find that it is a screen capture of NJLowestbid.com's website. Now that you can read just a bit, maybe we could get you to write at an adult level. "You're a putz too!", NOT..."Your a putz too!!!" And last, may I also respectfully suggest that you eat my putz. You would probably like it. Eating Glazers Putz?..Now that is gross! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pride and Glory posted Message 1254 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2003 at 01:54:06 Subject: Re: St Peter's Prep Not to Get Taxpayer 250K Saint Peter's Prep does much good for the community in Jersey City. Lest we not forget it's innercity HAP programs, and the hours of community service that its students put into their own towns. The school maybe religiously affiliated; however, it does not discriminate against any religion and accept students of any and all religous backgrounds. The school has mandatory religion courses, but students who are not of christian background are exempt and take a different course than others. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where do we go from here posted Message 1255 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2003 at 06:55:10 Subject: Building a New Democratic Party The real work of rebuilding the party must begin. Serving the public needs to be addressed and helping rebuilding the county must start. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Save the Taxpayers! posted Message 1256 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2003 at 11:49:11 Subject: Re: St Peter's Prep Not to Get Taxpayer 250K NJ Politicians Now For School Vouchers? By Charles Suldt When Cory Booker, Rhodes Scholar, Yale University Law School graduate and candidate for mayor of Newark, suggested that low-income parents should have the right to choose their children's school, the political establishment acted as if shaken by a seismic shock. Organization politicians raised a hue and cry against school choice. They contended that giving poor children access to educational opportunity somehow violated basic American principles. We were told that allowing parents to use government funding for tuition at religious schools would tear asunder the separation of Church and State. These supporters of the public school monopoly hailed what they claimed as the equality of the current system. They maintained that using public money for private schools would heighten and worsen social and class distinctions and would be just about the same thing as establishing a caste system. For these self-charged champions of the American Way, the practical reality of wide slices of the population condemned to poverty by failed schools was sad indeed, but, at the same time, a necessary and unavoidable sacrifice for the greater good. This high anxiety concerning educational vouchers resulting in the destruction of America civilization seems to have disappeared like the morning dew. The good news is that two prominent New Jersey's political figures have come out for your tax dollars supporting religious schools. The bad news is that the poor need not apply. Through the efforts of a pair of the top New Jersey Democrats, Senate Co-President Richard J. Codey (Essex) and Senate Minority Leader Bernard F. Kenny (Hudson), New Jersey taxpayers now will fund two of the state's elite Catholic high schools – Seton Hall Prep of West Orange and Saint Peter's Prep of Jersey City. Thanks to Senator Codey, Seton Hall Prep is to get $250,000 for renovations. Senator Kenny made possible an additional $250,000 for a new sports training field at Saint Peter's Prep. Parents pay $9,430 annually to send a son to Seton Hall Prep (neither school admits female students). The school boasts of a $13,000,000 endowment fund with a goal of $25,000,000. Among the former students are a Ford Motor Company vice-president and a New Jersey State Supreme Court justice. A visitor viewing the vast expanse of the wooded grounds and mansions of the Seton Hall Prep campus could be forgiven for imagining having been transported from New Jersey and even from the twenty-first century; one seems to have stepped into a vision of a deep South plantation manor house of a time before the Civil War. The hard working parents of Newark and Irvington, even though they never can hope to send their children to Seton Hall Prep, now will send their tax dollars there. Saint Peter's Prep charges $6,250 each year per student. The campus is set in Paulus Hook, an exclusive section of the Downtown Jersey City Waterfront. In 1995, a large portion of the school's complex of buildings benefited from a "multi-million dollar facelift." The current fund-raising drive has so far succeeded to the tune of $6,500,000 with a goal of $10,000,000. Among the collection of ambitious projects the school seeks to underwrite is “the construction of a new facility in Sea Bright, NJ.” How many of the hard working taxpayers of Jersey City can even hope to own property at the Shore? Saint Peter's Prep's president Father Keenan explains that as at the present time the proposed athletic field is a vacant lot, the landscaping will yield "green space" that all of Jersey City may enjoy. Presumably, we are supposed to believe that with the many empty lots in Jersey City, it was chance, not favoritism, that resulted in the choice of this particular location for beautification on the taxpayer’s tab. The two-acre site is one block from the school and very close to the Liberty State Park – where the public is allowed entry. It’s clear that this particular location is valuable to Saint Peter’s. What’s rather blurry, since Liberty State Park is just a stroll away, is the urgent need that the general population of Jersey City feels for “green space” within shouting distance of a Catholic high school. And actually, as the athletic field is to consist of artificial turf, defining it as “green space” is at the very least a stretch of the imagination – if not a contradiction in terms. In a spirit of benevolence, Saint Peter’s allows that the possibility exists of others being granted permission to use this little field of dreams at those times when Saint Peter's Prep students have no need of it. In the 1960's, through the generosity – direct and indirect – of Hudson County political boss (and Saint Peter's Prep alumnus), John V. Kenny, the school added an impressive modern building on Warren Street. After a fashion, this Catholic high school has enjoyed a long tradition of taxpayer support. A life-long resident who worked for the City of Jersey City during the reign of J.V.K. reported that a crew of City employees was assigned to "The Little Guy's project," as the Saint Peter's Prep construction site then was known. (John V. Kenny's nick-name was "The Little Guy.") This was during an era of deferred maintenance for Jersey City's public schools and municipal buildings that produced a downward spiral of decay. Convicted and jailed Jersey City Mayor Thomas Whelan sent his son to Saint Peter’s Prep. Jersey City police were forced to act as chauffeurs, driving young Whelan back and forth each day. Nathan Lane, star of stage and screen, is a Saint Peter’s Prep graduate. In the same ‘70s class as the nascent Broadway comedian was the son of a high ranking Union City official – until the entire family faded away by entering the Federal witness protection program. (For a little while, he was the only guy in the whole school permitted to attempt a beard. Apparently, the whiskers were intended as a disguise. You see, real life gamblers aren’t necessarily a bunch of lovable Damon Runyon characters, like in Guys and Dolls.) These quarter-million dollar Trenton plums come at time of slashed support for public schools that results in shrinking programs and teacher lay-offs. Plus, the actual legality of direct government subsidies to religious schools is questionable. The Supreme Court decided in favor of vouchers to parents who then might choose to use the funds for parochial tuition. But what the Supreme Court allows is government money going first to the family, not straight to an institution with a religious affiliation. Two Saint Peter's Prep students are Senator Bernard Kenny's sons, as luck would have it. State Senator Kenny was the bearer of the sad tidings concerning the State aid cuts to Jersey City. Bernard Kenny provided the crocodile tears while telling Mayor Glenn Cunningham that the money just was not there. It appears that, when motivated, Senator Kenny is capable of miracles. : State withholding $500,000 in aid for two Roman Catholic schools : The Associated Press : 8/29/2003, 7:42 a.m. ET : TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — The state has delayed the release of $500,000 that was set aside for two Roman Catholic high schools at the behest of two state lawmakers. : The decision announced Thursday came as the American Civil Liberties Union was planning to seek a temporary restraining order to block the grants, claiming it was a violation of the constitutionally mandated separation of church and state. However, the state agreed to withhold the funds before Superior Court Judge Andrew Smithson could rule on the issue. : The money was to be evenly divided between St. Peter's Preparatory School in Jersey City and Seton Hall Preparatory School in West Orange, two all-boys schools that planned to use the funds for capital improvements. It was added to the state budget June 15 — two weeks before the spending plan was adopted — at the request of Sen. Bernard Kenny, D-Hudson, and Democratic Senate President Richard Codey, who represents Essex County. : Codey said he was annoyed that the ACLU would challenge the expenditure, noting that he also worked to get a $100,000 state grant for the Jewish Community Center in West Orange 10 years ago when it was engaged in a capital expansion project. : "I've fought hard and have been able to win money for the Jewish Community Center and numerous African-American churches for social programs," Codey told The Star-Ledger of Newark for Friday's editions. "Whether it is Seton Hall or somewhere else, they service children of all religions." : Kenny, who sits on the Budget and Appropriations Committee, has also said there was nothing improper about the grant. One of his sons attends St. Peter's and another has graduated from the school. : St. Peter's officials plan to put the money toward a $2 million artificial-turf playing field across the street from the school, while Seton Hall Prep wants to put its share toward a $2.2 million expansion project that would include three new classrooms, a doubling in size of its cafeteria and the expansion of the locker room area. : Edward Barocas, senior staff attorney for the ACLU, said the problem is that the money is only going to the two schools and is not available to others. : "It should be noted that funds often flow to religious schools from accepted government programs that are both neutral and generally available to all schools or all students," he said. "These grants, however, are neither neutral toward religion ... nor generally available." : Peter Aseltine, a spokesman for the state Attorney General's Office, declined to comment on the matter because the state had not yet had a chance to file its response with the court. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sophisticated racism in Atlanta posted Message 1257 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2003 at 07:27:09 Subject: SBA Racist Organization for all those that thought it was gone for good. September 1, 2003 Black VC firm sues SBA for alleged bias Kent Hoover Washington Bureau Chief A black-managed venture capital firm filed a $50 million racial discrimination lawsuit against the Small Business Administration because the agency rejected its application to become a Small Business Investment Company. SBICs are privately owned and managed firms that leverage their own capital with government-backed loans to provide equity investments and long-term loans to small businesses. C. Earl Peek, managing partner of Atlanta-based Diamond Ventures, contends his firm met all of the qualifications to be licensed as an SBIC. The reasons the SBA listed for rejecting its application -- that the management team did not have enough venture capital experience and its business plan was flawed -- are "a pretext for discrimination," Peek says. Peek, a former senior commercial lender for the Atlanta Economic Development Corp., supports his racial bias argument by contending that no black-managed firm has been licensed as an SBIC and that less than 5 percent of SBIC financing goes to minority-owned businesses. SBA figures show that minority-owned small businesses accounted for 10.24 percent of all SBIC financings in fiscal 2002 but received only 4.27 percent of the total dollars. Black-owned businesses received only 0.68 percent of all SBIC dollars. Women-owned businesses also received less than 1 percent. Peek's proposed SBIC planned to invest in minority- and women-owned businesses, and in businesses in low-income areas throughout the Southeast. "No matter what the outcome is regarding Diamond Ventures, SBA will need to address the serious disparity and availability of financing to minorities and women, and inner-city, underserved and rural areas," Peek says. The suit was filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C. SBA has a policy against commenting on pending litigation. Agency officials did say, however, that the SBA is taking steps to increase the flow of venture capital to minority-owned businesses. "The number is not as high as we would like it to be," says Harry Haskins, deputy associate administrator of the SBA's investment division. But more than 25 percent of last year's $2.66 billion in SBIC financing went to low- and moderate-income areas -- a "noteworthy" accomplishment, Haskins says. In addition, SBA's count of minority-controlled SBICs differs from Peek's. Agency records show there are two SBICs where most of the partners are black. In addition, there is one Hispanic-controlled SBIC, three Asian SBICs and eight women SBICs. Many white-controlled SBICs have minorities as partners, the SBA adds. SBA officials have held forums and met with minority venture fund managers to encourage their participation in the SBIC program, Haskins says. "We're actively trying to attract people of color and woman managers," he says. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1258 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2003 at 08:12:55 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Casinos in Jersey City posted Message 1259 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2003 at 09:39:08 Subject: Create a special district for Casinos in Jersey City In order to promote growth and expand the econmic conditions that will expand growth Jersey City should start a Casino District this would in turn allow for a growth in Arts and Entertainment. If you think about it who really wants to fly in the current enviroment. Jersey City could become the day trippers destination location. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chief Petz posted Message 1260 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2003 at 10:39:42 Subject: Re: Create a special district for Casinos in Jersey City : In order to promote growth and expand the econmic conditions that will expand growth Jersey City should start a Casino District this would in turn allow for a growth in Arts and Entertainment. If you think about it who really wants to fly in the current enviroment. Jersey City could become the day trippers destination location. This is about to happen. See the Link for the Press Release. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 1261 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2003 at 14:37:23 Subject: Tonite on Hudson County's Talking. 911 ceremony plans for Union City and Jersey City, Steve Lipski and Melissa Holloway return for Rd2 concerning the redevelopment of the old Med center site, McCann and Cruz get the green light to run for Freeholder in the 4th dist. all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hoboken Offical Goes Berserk posted Message 1262 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2003 at 15:24:10 Subject: Shoes R Dropping Several sources are saying that a high ranking Revenue & Finance city employee had a mental breakdown over the weekend in his Pa home. Completely in the buff and crying uncontrollably when the local authorities arrived, he had ripped apart his house looking for hidden "bugs" that the FBI planted. This individual "M.C." was very friendly with Gerry Lisa who recently plead guilty to federal charges. "M.C." is also a business partner of Hoboken Tax Collector & Developer Louis Piccardo. Anyone have more to this? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1263 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2003 at 16:07:01 Subject: The past isn't dead. The past isn't dead. It isn't even the past. William Faulkner ***************** End Of Article ****************** Eat my putz? posted Message 1264 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2003 at 20:22:07 Subject: Re: WWW.NJLOWESTBID.COM HAS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP: IT’S CHEAPER, IT’S BETTER-AND NOBODY WANTS IT : : How Funny! Sounds like sour grapes to me!! Maybe the Freeholders are quivering by AL's ridiculous threats to sue? Here is a quarter and a tissue..Now go tell someone who cares!! You Putz! : : Oh, and Steve....I wonder why you wrote that story? For one, it contains no facts, and two, I happened to notice the ad for NJlowestbid on the same page as the story. You could have at least moved it to another page so it did not look so obvious....Your a putz too!!! : : May I first respectfully suggest that you learn to read and then read the story again and you just might find a fact or two. Then with your new skills look again at the "ad" you take exception to and you will find that it is a screen capture of NJLowestbid.com's website. Now that you can read just a bit, maybe we could get you to write at an adult level. "You're a putz too!", NOT..."Your a putz too!!!" And last, may I also respectfully suggest that you eat my putz. You would probably like it. Eat my putz?? How adult!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fuzzy wuzzy posted Message 1265 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2003 at 22:32:30 Subject: Re: WWW.NJLOWESTBID.COM HAS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP: IT’S CHEAPER, IT’S BETTER-AND NOBODY WANTS IT : : : How Funny! Sounds like sour grapes to me!! Maybe the Freeholders are quivering by AL's ridiculous threats to sue? Here is a quarter and a tissue..Now go tell someone who cares!! You Putz! : : : Oh, and Steve....I wonder why you wrote that story? For one, it contains no facts, and two, I happened to notice the ad for NJlowestbid on the same page as the story. You could have at least moved it to another page so it did not look so obvious....Your a putz too!!! : : : : May I first respectfully suggest that you learn to read and then read the story again and you just might find a fact or two. Then with your new skills look again at the "ad" you take exception to and you will find that it is a screen capture of NJLowestbid.com's website. Now that you can read just a bit, maybe we could get you to write at an adult level. "You're a putz too!", NOT..."Your a putz too!!!" And last, may I also respectfully suggest that you eat my putz. You would probably like it. : Eat my putz?? How adult!! This is Glazer we are dealing with, you seem surprised. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Short lived Victories posted Message 1266 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 06:58:30 Subject: Time to Expand the Big Tent With the cleaning up of the Hudson County Machine all but certain the Capitol awaits. Soon Mc Greevey will be called to answer for his sins and the void will be filled by a well organized party with a clear message. Can the Hudson County Democratic Party land the candidate for Mc Greevey's spot or will the Democratic party stop expanding? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Over it posted Message 1267 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 07:39:15 Subject: Re: Time to Expand the Big Tent Glazer, get a life! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not Glazer and I have a life who is Glazer? posted Message 1268 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 07:57:13 Subject: Re: Time to Expand the Big Tent Glazer hardly post here if you check it out most of the time he announces his presence clearly I choose not to because of the threats I have received in the past. : Glazer, get a life! ***************** End Of Article ****************** aa posted Message 1269 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 08:06:34 Subject: Stack did once said! In october 2001, (then candidate to commissioner) Stack told the Jersey Journal: "I firmly believe in only one office for one person. I want to be your full-time mayor and only your mayor. I will never seek a higher office. I will not be a "double dipper" like the other mayors. From the bottom of my heart, Union City comes first." Now Mayor Stack is the Freeholder, Mayor and want to be the Assemblyman. What is next? Congressman perhaps! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hojas posted Message 1270 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 08:59:51 Subject: Re: Stack did once said! : In october 2001, (then candidate to commissioner) Stack told the Jersey Journal: : "I firmly believe in only one office for one person. I want to be your full-time mayor and only your mayor. I will never seek a higher office. I will not be a "double dipper" like the other mayors. From the bottom of my heart, Union City comes first." : Now Mayor Stack is the Freeholder, Mayor and want to be the Assemblyman. What is next? Congressman perhaps! Glazer is now been advised to go after Stack. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Once a Glazer, always a Glazer. posted Message 1271 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 10:11:14 Subject: Re: Time to Expand the Big Tent : Glazer hardly post here if you check it out most of the time he announces his presence clearly I choose not to because of the threats I have received in the past. : : : Glazer, get a life! Whatever you say Steve. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer Fan Club posted Message 1272 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 18:52:58 Subject: Steve Glazer is our Hero Since a great many of the postings are attributed to Steve Glazer I think it has finally come to organizing a fan club so when journalist are threatened for exposing the truth I can stand and say I'm Glazer kind of like the closing scene in Sparticus. The slaves have a champion his name is Glazer forever we will remember his bravery even though his life was threatened. A brave new world of journalism awaits us all as we see the truth revealed. Steve Glazer is our hero. FYI this is not Glazer although in the spirit of Sparticus I'm Glazer ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer Fan posted Message 1273 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 18:55:09 Subject: Ode to Glazer or Semitic pet rock Steve is our official semitic pet rock we love to have him around we throw him at situations to break them down to see the truth. The Rock of Truth we shall sing the praises of the Glazer Man the dude of truth righteous man ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hooray for Glazer the Champion of Hudson County posted Message 1274 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 18:56:59 Subject: Glazer I want to name my baby after him If I get pregnant I will name my baby Glazer or Glaze I like Glaze I like Glazed donuts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glaze Craze posted Message 1275 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 18:59:09 Subject: Glaze Craze the latest fad in Hudson County Join the movement become a Glaze Crazed groupie. Expressions like we love Glazer and I'm Glazer will heard at the meetings. Young women looking to experience a real man should submit photos and medical records. Glazer, Glazer, Glazer he is a hero. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer to father Britney Spears baby posted Message 1276 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 19:01:20 Subject: Britney is a Glaze Crazed chick Yes it s true our own Glazer is soon to become a father of Britney's love child. Britney stated that she just had to have some of that Glaze and there you have it folks the rest of the story. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazers secret admirer posted Message 1277 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 19:03:52 Subject: We love Steve even though Steve is the lover of the Don but no one is supose to know that. The Don was so attracted to Steve that he decided to become his love muffin a real reach around kind of guy. Love is a wonderful thing Steve told the Don its me or the HCDO so the Don left. Even the Don has the Glaze Craze. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steve consults the Pope posted Message 1278 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 19:06:23 Subject: Pope has the Glaze Craze A call from Rome arrived collect as they are cheap asking Glazer for Spiritual Advise and direction. The Pontif felt that his need was great enough to warrant a call for help to Steve Glazer ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1279 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 19:14:30 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1280 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 21:00:08 Subject: Re: Steve Glazer is our Hero I WANT TO JOIN !!!! WHERE DO I SIGN UP !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1281 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2003 at 21:02:41 Subject: My eyes Glaze over . I am laughing so hard at the previous posts. Glazer is indeed a special (sic) person. Thank you poster, who ever you are !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dmasp posted Message 1282 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2003 at 01:14:33 Subject: Hudson County Election fraud case Cunningham ally testifies as trial continues in Hudson election fraud case By STEVE KORNACKI PoliticsNJ.com JERSEY CITY, September 2 - A key ally of Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham spent most of the day on the witness stand as the legal challenge to the 31st Legislative District's June primary results continued in Judge Arthur N. D'Italia's Jersey City courtroom today. Bobby Jackson, a longtime Jersey City Democratic activist and a Cunningham adviser, was grilled by Stephen J. Edelstein, an attorney for the Hudson County Democratic Organization, over what role Jackson's political action committee -- the Reform Democratic Committee of Jersey City -- played in the 31st District's legislative elections. Jackson was the second witness called by Edelstein since the trial opened last week. The case was brought by the HCDO and its losing candidates in the 31st District -- state Senate candidate L. Harvey Smith and Assembly incumbents Joseph V. Doria (D-Bayonne) and Elba Perez Cinciarelli (D-Jersey City) -- and seeks to throw out the June primary results because of voting irregularities and excessive spending by Cunningham's team. Cunningham beat Smith in the state Senate primary, and the mayor's Assembly running-mates -- Bayonne Councilman Anthony Chiappone and former Hudson County Freeholder Louis Manzo -- were also victorious. As he did last week with Joseph Cardwell, another Cunningham friend and fundraiser, Edelstein used his examination to lead Jackson through a series of invoices, checks and campaign literature in an effort to establish that the witness's PAC had exceeded the $36,000 contribution limit in helping Cunningham, and that the spending had continued even after a May ruling from Superior Court Judge Thomas P. Olivieri to stop. The HCDO has claimed that PACs run by Jackson and Cardwell served no other purpose but to elect Cunningham's team, and that the PACs essentially functioned as extra campaign accounts for the mayor and his running-mates. Edelstein documented $36,015 in expenses incurred by Jackson's PAC this year when it hired SMDG to design and print several pieces of campaign literature. Questioned about the nature of the literature by Edelstein, Jackson claimed the pieces were intended to help not just Cunningham's legislative ticket, but also candidates running for Democratic county committee seats. But the literature didn't mention the county committee members, Edelstein noted. Jackson also admitted that the cost of postage for the literature was paid by one of Cunningham's two campaign accounts, and said the decision to split the expenditures that way was made by Cardwell. But that claim seemed to contradict a May deposition of Jackson, which Edelstein read back to him. In the deposition, Jackson said he had decided to have Cunningham's campaign committee pay for the postage. Edelstein asked Jackson if he had been lying when he was deposed in May. "I wasn't lying to you. I just wasn't sure," Jackson said, maintaining that Cardwell had in fact made the decision." "I didn't decide who paid for the postage," Jackson added. "I decided who paid for the literature." Edelstein also itemized several other expenditures by Jackson's PAC, including a series of newspaper advertisements during this year's primary campaign season that cost the PAC more than $18,000. The eight ads Edelstein presented were placed either in the Jersey Journal and the Urban Times News. While Jackson is the publisher of the Urban Times News, a Jersey City-based publication that uses often-crude language to attack Cunningham's political opponents, he said he wasn't sure if every check from his PAC to the paper was for advertisements, until Edelstein presented him with records that stated the checks were for ads. Jackson also verified that his PAC had hired a number of staffers and consultants with close ties to Cunningham --including the mayor's wife and a high-level aide in his administration. In perhaps the clearest illustration of the interwoven relationships between the various pro-Cunningham accounts the HCDO alleges, Edelstein identified a $21,931 invoice from May for three pieces of campaign literature to be paid by the Cunningham Democratic Team, one of two Cunningham campaign accounts. But the invoice was actually paid by the mayor's other campaign account -- Cunningham for Senate 2003 -- while the literature itself listed Jackson's Reform Democratic Committee of Jersey City as having paid for the printing. Jackson said his PAC was listed on the literature because it had been printed prior to the court order blocking Jackson's PAC from further campaign spending. Jackson said he told Cardwell that the invoice could not be paid by Jackson's PAC, but had no idea why Cunningham's campaign had ended up paying it. Time ran out before attorneys for Cunningham's team could cross-examine Jackson, who is set to resume his testimony on Wednesday. Late in the day, Edelstein seemed to catch Jackson -- and Cunningham's lawyers -- by surprise when he produced a copy of an anonymous one-page flier that was circulated in the 31st District on primary day. The flier carried a copy of the Jersey Journal's masthead, and purported to detail a court decision to impose a suspended sentence on Smith, Cunningham's opponent, for an altercation he had been in weeks earlier. The flier was false, as no charges had ever been filed against Smith, the Jersey City Council President. After a lengthy sidebar, Edelstein was permitted to ask Jackson about the flier. Jackson said he had seen it on primary day, but denied having any involvement in producing or distributing it. Edelstein also asked Jackson if a writer for the Urban Times News had been involved in producing the flier. Angelo J. Genova, Cunningham's attorney, noted that the flier had not been previously submitted and that the writer's name had not been included on a list of witnesses. Several sources close to each side indicated that the HCDO attorneys believe they are in possession of a tape that may implicate Jackson and the writer in creating the flier. Jackson's testimony brought to light how well-orchestrated and centralized the efforts of his PAC and Cardwell's PAC were in conjunction with the Cunningham campaign, an HCDO representative said after today's session. "I think it was proven today that they were in a political mode," said Roger Jones, a Smith campaign advisor. "Everything that they were spending was geared towards that 31st District race." But Manzo, who sat through last week's court session and today's, saw the proceedings differently. "I'm starting to get susp-icious and think this is just an attempt to hurt us in November, and maybe to help the Republicans so that [the HCDO] can get another crack at it," he said. The testimony about how Cunningham's campaign was financed deals with the second count in the HCDO's contest of the election. The first count addresses the HCDO's charges of voting irregularities. Earlier in the day, Judge D'Italia indicated he would have been willing to dismiss that count in Smith's case against Cunningham, since Cunningham's margin of victory exceeded the number of voters the HCDO is questioning, but withheld a ruling because Cunningham's lawyers had come up with about 800 names of voters who could also be disqualified under the HCDO's standard. Added to the HCDO's list, that would theoretically be enough votes to change the result of the Senate race. If he decides not to add the 800 names to the HCDO's total, then D'Italia seemed to indicate it's likely he'll dismiss the first count against Cunningham. The Assembly results are closer, but it appears the first count in Perez-Cinciarelli's case may be in jeopardy if the 800 names aren't added. Cunningham's attorneys seemed to present evidence that would dismiss enough of the HCDO's voter challenges to make Perez-Cinciarelli's deficit larger than the number of votes that could be thrown out. But D'Italia indicated the evidence is still subject to review. Steve Kornacki can be reached at kornackinj@aol.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1283 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2003 at 11:22:50 Subject: Our hero strikes again ? Is Glazer being naughty again ? From politicsnj.com : Late in the day, Edelstein seemed to catch Jackson -- and Cunningham's lawyers -- by surprise when he produced a copy of an anonymous one-page flier that was circulated in the 31st District on primary day. The flier carried a copy of the Jersey Journal's masthead, and purported to detail a court decision to impose a suspended sentence on Smith, Cunningham's opponent, for an altercation he had been in weeks earlier. The flier was false, as no charges had ever been filed against Smith, the Jersey City Council President. After a lengthy sidebar, Edelstein was permitted to ask Jackson about the flier. Jackson said he had seen it on primary day, but denied having any involvement in producing or distributing it. Edelstein also asked Jackson if a writer for the Urban Times News had been involved in producing the flier. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Kennelly posted Message 1284 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2003 at 14:39:21 Subject: Re: Chakotay = Jim Kennelly = DeGise S U C K UP Hi-- I was told someone is online in these forums called "Chakotay" and that they are a supporter of the County Executive. I think that's great. But for the record, I don't post here under my own name or any assumed name, be it Chakotay or anything else. So whoever wants to get hysterical over me or my support of a good friend and a decent person in Tom DeGise, can just email me at: jkennelly@hudsoncountynj.org. Just have the guts to use your real name. I certainly always do. Always a pleasure. Jim Kennelly : Chakotay - AKA Jim Kennelly : If Tom Degise ever stopped short - you would literally be up his a** - : You Short little twirp - : You are nothing more than a S U C K UP : Judgement day is coming for You , Kenny & Menendez ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pepsi posted Message 1285 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2003 at 08:11:35 Subject: A short story 1487. Twas 3 heads it had..... by SSSSSSSSSSin, 9/3/03 16:55 ET The triumpheret had 3 heads. Three heads. It went for a soda; This political machine. As twoheads bent for change, the third went for a straw. And whence he supped on the straw he drew in not Coca-Cola but his other two heads.He reveled in the flavor, and drank full until he was self-consumed. His last act? A burp. A burp. And so it goes with all powerful poliotical machines. They self-feed unto self-destruction. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Albert Camus posted Message 1286 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2003 at 12:51:36 Subject: Re: A short story : 1487. Twas 3 heads it had..... : by SSSSSSSSSSin, 9/3/03 16:55 ET : The triumpheret had 3 heads. Three heads. It went for a soda; This political machine. As twoheads bent for change, the third went for a straw. And whence he supped on the straw he drew in not Coca-Cola but his other two heads.He reveled in the flavor, and drank full until he was self-consumed. His last act? A burp. A burp. And so it goes with all powerful poliotical machines. They self-feed unto self-destruction. Deep. Really friggin' deep. : ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 1287 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2003 at 14:21:29 Subject: Re: A short story bizarre! ***************** End Of Article ****************** SPANKY posted Message 1288 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2003 at 17:07:46 Subject: GAYNOR GANG BANGS NANCY PULLS TRAIN FOR HCDO. TOM STILL WAITING FOR PAY. BLACK BALLED BY DEGISE. IGNORED BY BRETT. HATED BY ALL. NO WONDER THEY ARE SO SMALL AND BITTER. JIM KENELLY WAITING FOR SLOPPY SECONDS.TOM FRESH OUT OF V PILLS NOW SHAKING HANDS WITH UNEMPLOYED. TOM CANT MEASURE UP OR PERFORM AND THAT IS WHY NANCY WOULD RATHER BE WITH LYNN AND GET LUBED AND LOADED AT SAME TIME. MORE FUN THAT WAY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1289 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2003 at 17:23:02 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dreamcast posted Message 1290 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2003 at 18:56:51 Subject: RE: A short story : bizarre! Bizarre?, Of course it is... it's Steve Glazer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mike dicosmo posted Message 1291 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 11:11:02 Subject: Van wagenen ave When are they going to clean up the corner of van wagenen and sip ave.Drive by there on a friday or saturday night and you will see what i am talking about,there are a group of 20 guys hanging out drinking in public bvlasting there radios and selling drugs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fly on the wall posted Message 1292 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 18:40:22 Subject: Re: Our hero strikes again ? Word is the evidence is huge. Could this be the end to Bobby Jackson and Steve Glazer? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cunningham for Govenor if he can remain as Mayor posted Message 1293 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 19:02:59 Subject: Glenn for Govenor as long as he stays the Mayor Is it possible to be the Mayor, Senator, and Govenor at one time well in the case of GlennCunningham why not? Of course this sounds rude to suggest it but I'm sure he would make a great Govenor as he has served as a great Mayor. From Greenville to the Govenor's Mansion and American sucess story built on truth and fair play kind of the reverse of what we have now in the Govenor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mc Greevey(Lucy) and Menendez(Ricky) should leave office posted Message 1294 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 19:05:36 Subject: The Lucy McGreevey show and the Ricky Menendez Leave and run and hide before the real leaders come and get you Congressman you are a shame. Mc Greevey leave and do the same. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I loath Lucy and Ricky posted Message 1295 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 19:07:44 Subject: Lucy you got a lot of xplaining to do Hello Lucy this is your big Latin Lover Ricky Menendez coming home so get ready. Make sure you and the other girls in Trenton clean the place up before Glenn Cunningham comes to serve the will of the people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Recall Menendez and Mc Greevey posted Message 1296 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 19:10:06 Subject: Vote Yes for the Recall and Yes for Glenn Cunningham Throw the bums out of office Menendez and McGreevey. Lets clean house and make the honor of the office be reflective of the people that hold that office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I do not like Mc Greevey or Green Eggs and Ham posted Message 1297 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 19:11:49 Subject: Sam I am I will not vote for Mc Greevey in house, not with a mouse, not in a chair I do not like him anywhere ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sam I am posted Message 1298 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 19:14:58 Subject: Not with goat , not in a moat I do not like Mc Greevey Throw him out before the sxink gets to bad, no wait the Feds have the goods on him already so all we really need to do is wait. Target Letters are flying and soon they will land on the doorstep of the evil govenor of maybe Skywalker can save the state. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sam Iam not Glazer posted Message 1299 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 19:16:52 Subject: The power of One standing against the evil Empire The Evil Empire of McGreevey and Menendez has started to fall apart soon the Great Skywalker will come to Trenton to free the captive taxpayers and voters robbed by the rulers of the evil empire. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1300 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 20:54:52 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Union County Reporter posted Message 1301 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 21:44:42 Subject: Re: CUNNINGHAM CITES BOOTH FOR ETHICAL VIOLATIONS Tell me about his old law partner, Robert E. Barry, for he is now the Union County Counsel, vincentlehotsky@aol.com, the Union County Reporter ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vincent Lehotsky posted Message 1302 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 21:50:20 Subject: Robert E. Barry, County Counsel The person who was formerly your county counsel, is now my county counsel. He just became the counsel the Freeholder Board of Union County. I am the guy from the public who attends every county meeting. How is Robert ??? Is he good ??? You can always e-mail me the stuff that cannot be published here. Til then. http://www.geocities.com/unioncountyreporter/index2.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** MOe JOe posted Message 1303 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 21:51:36 Subject: Re: The power of One standing against the evil Empire That's okay ..you are entitled to your opinion. You see Glazer is a dirt bag, worthless piece of $h1t ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1304 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 22:26:47 Subject: Re: Robert E. Barry, County Counsel Bob Barry is a great choice .. if you want someone who will turn a blind eye while the County Executive sells his office to the highest bidder. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1305 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2003 at 22:29:59 Subject: Re: Glenn for Govenor as long as he stays the Mayor Obviously Glenn hasn't confiscated all the drugs in the City. You obviously are taking some powerful stuff. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1306 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 05:02:13 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Baghdad on the Hudson posted Message 1307 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 08:31:12 Subject: Javier Inclan HCDO Pick for County Clerk "After careful consultation with a wide range of party leaders, it became clear that Javier Inclán was the kind of bright, young person we needed to fill the void caused by Janet's untimely passing," said Chairman Kenny. "He will bring energy and commitment to this important leadership post in government and help us grow stronger as a party after the loss of such a beloved member of our Democratic family. I am hopeful that the membership of the County committee will share this view." . . . He first entered public office in 1998, when he was elected to the Guttenberg School Board. Two years later, he was elected to the Town Council. Inclán has served as a member of Governor James E. McGreevey's transition team's Committee on Higher Education and currently serves as Executive Director of the Hudson County Democratic Organization. He is a member of the Latin Kiwanis Club. If elected, Inclán will focus on the modernization of the Clerk's office with an emphasis on exploring new technology. "We don't have to reinvent the wheel, but we can make it spin a little faster," he said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 1308 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 09:14:34 Subject: Re: Steve Glazer is our Hero : I WANT TO JOIN !!!! WHERE DO I SIGN UP !!! : So here's where you're hiding, you little devil! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JP Morgan posted Message 1309 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 10:42:54 Subject: Re: Steve Glazer is our Hero Glazer is in hiding...the end is near! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hojas posted Message 1310 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 10:51:08 Subject: Re: Javier Inclan HCDO Pick for County Clerk Congrats to Javier Inclan! A great job for a great person. Ignore the post above butt-boy Glazer is just a wee bit JEALOUS! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Union City First posted Message 1311 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 18:02:26 Subject: Anyone from Union City Here? Hey any Union City resident reading this board. Want to know inside information of Union City Politics and corruption. check the link below. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Union City First posted Message 1312 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 18:03:54 Subject: Anyone from Union City Here? Hey any Union City resident reading this board. Want to know inside information of Union City Politics and corruption. check the link below. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO TITANTIC posted Message 1313 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 18:21:39 Subject: Javier Inclan HCDO PUPPET THE TRUTH -- Fresh from his Federal Grand Jury Appearences Hudson County Democratic Chairman Bernard Kenny announces the latest member of the HCDO / TITANTIC ill fated Crew. Javier Inclán publically stated "We don't have to reinvent the wheel" THANK YOU JAVIER FOR SUCH INSIGHT. Pathetic is an understatement. THEY ARE DOOMED ! : "After careful consultation with a wide range of party leaders, it became : clear : that Javier Inclán was the kind of bright, young person we needed to fill : the : void caused by Janet's untimely passing," said : Chairman Kenny. "He will bring energy and commitment to this important : leadership post in government and help us grow stronger as a party after the : loss of such a beloved member of our Democratic family. I am hopeful that : the : membership of the County committee will share this view." : . . . : He first entered public office in 1998, when he was elected to the : Guttenberg : School Board. Two years later, he was elected to the Town Council. Inclán : has served as a member of Governor James E. McGreevey's transition team's : Committee on Higher Education and currently serves as Executive Director of : the Hudson County Democratic Organization. He is a member of the Latin : Kiwanis Club. : If elected, Inclán will focus on the modernization of the Clerk's office : with an : emphasis on exploring new technology. "We don't have to reinvent the wheel, : but we can make it spin a little faster," he said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1314 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 18:28:22 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JPS posted Message 1315 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 19:09:03 Subject: Re: Glazer UTN puppet Puppet=GLAZER ***************** End Of Article ****************** Muppet Objects posted Message 1316 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 19:17:01 Subject: Re: Glazer UTN puppet You cannot blaim him he likes having a hand up his puppet. : Puppet=GLAZER ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazed Nuts posted Message 1317 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 19:20:13 Subject: We Love Stevey and wish all the best for him Think about it real hard isn't Glazer the best journalist of all time. Well I think so he has stood against his life being threatened and I imagine will again considering the amount of corruption he is uncovering. A small Glazer fact did you know Steve invented the fee fee bag? ***************** End Of Article ****************** ucfirst posted Message 1318 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 20:27:19 Subject: Inside Union City The latest political gossips! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1319 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 20:42:46 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another HCDO Voter - YUCK posted Message 1320 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2003 at 21:05:11 Subject: Congrats on New Addition Chakotay Congrats on the New Addition to the Family. : Bob Barry is a great choice .. if you want someone who will turn a blind eye while the County Executive sells his office to the highest bidder. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anthony Should Be Ashmed posted Message 1321 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 12:33:24 Subject: Re: Welcome to the Message Board. : Welcome to the Message Board. I knew from the Schundler days at City Hall. For you to allow your site to become a hi-tec URBAN Times News is displcable. You allow slander and smut from Glazer and Jackson and say well anyone can post here but not everyone can lower themselves to attack families, call names, repeat sexual rumors, play racist politics etc. Only the skum. Now I see you advertise in the UTN so all pretense is over. You are now one of Jackson's boys and we know it and won't forget it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** God Forgives All posted Message 1322 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 14:54:49 Subject: Peter Weiss Has Died Is this true. If so God Rest His Soul. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A very good post from NJO.com posted Message 1323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 18:59:33 Subject: Re: Peter Weiss Has Died 1492.1. Bow your heads and pay homage by BlondeBlur, 9/7/03 18:07 ET Re: Peter Weiss Passed On by restlNpeace, 9/7/03 Just heard that Peter Weiss passed away. Whether you agreed with his views or not, his column was one of the best and only reasons to read the Jersey Journal. His passing is a great loss to Hudson County and his commentary will be sorely missed, especially during this upcoming controversial freeholder race. Peter's death should also remind us all to take a moment to remind ourselves not only of the fragility of human life, but that the politicians and candidates and others whose opinions and characters are attacked on this forum (and elsewhere) are people too. They are not simply mindless, souless objects that exist for us to vent our frustrations toward or to vilify, but they ARE human beings with feelings who are loved by their families and friends and they should be respected as such by those who seek intelligent, rational discussion of the issues at hand. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I hate Peter Weiss Glad he is gone posted Message 1324 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 19:29:36 Subject: Re: Peter Weiss Has Died Jersey Journal allowed tons of corrupt activity to go un-reported for years Peter Weiss was part of it. Someone should check to see if he wasn't passed on with some help considering the nature of his relationship with the corrupt members of the HCDO. : 1492.1. Bow your heads and pay homage : by BlondeBlur, 9/7/03 18:07 ET : Re: Peter Weiss Passed On by restlNpeace, 9/7/03 : Just heard that Peter Weiss passed away. Whether you agreed with his views or not, his column was one of the best and only reasons to read the Jersey Journal. His passing is a great loss to Hudson County and his commentary will be sorely missed, especially during this upcoming controversial freeholder race. Peter's death should also remind us all to take a moment to remind ourselves not only of the fragility of human life, but that the politicians and candidates and others whose opinions and characters are attacked on this forum (and elsewhere) are people too. They are not simply mindless, souless objects that exist for us to vent our frustrations toward or to vilify, but they ARE human beings with feelings who are loved by their families and friends and they should be respected as such by those who seek intelligent, rational discussion of the issues at hand. ***************** End Of Article ****************** My dog died I'm upset posted Message 1325 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 19:32:51 Subject: Who cares if Peter died So if all the stories and tales of corruption they refused to publish over the years where added up the Corrupt idiots of the HCDO would have been thrown out years ago. Peter Weiss helped keep corruption in office and assisted in the robbery of the voters a poor example of what a journalist should stand for ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 21:07:47 Subject: Re: Who cares if Peter died I am assuming only a graceless nitwit like Glazer could post something like this. The poorest excuse for a journalist is you Steve. Ironic that you have damned yourself with your own words. ***************** End Of Article ****************** chakotay posted Message 1327 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 21:11:35 Subject: Re: Peter Weiss Has Died You Cunningham slimeballs hated Peter Weiss cause he told it like it was. That Cunningham and the UTN play the race card at every opportunity. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Robin posted Message 1328 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 21:38:50 Subject: To; My Dog died I'm.... Go to he11 ...and at least I have the gutts to use my real name! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not Glazer you are crazy posted Message 1329 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 23:22:24 Subject: Re: Who cares if Peter died No not Glazer you are nuts go to he11 : I am assuming only a graceless nitwit like Glazer could post something like this. The poorest excuse for a journalist is you Steve. Ironic that you have damned yourself with your own words. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Robin is not a real name posted Message 1330 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 23:23:40 Subject: Re: To; My Dog died I'm.... Tell the truth your name is Dorothy and your not in Kansas. : Go to he11 ...and at least I have the gutts to use my real name! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good and Dead posted Message 1331 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 23:25:08 Subject: Re: Peter Weiss Has Died Thank God the supporters of the corrupt now have to answer to a higher authority I'm sure it is hot where he is : You Cunningham slimeballs hated Peter Weiss cause he told it like it was. That Cunningham and the UTN play the race card at every opportunity. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Shame is in Supporting Corruption from the HCDO posted Message 1332 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 23:27:07 Subject: Re: Welcome to the Message Board. No shame on you for supporting the Corruption that has taken from everyone and enriched the few. You are a supporter of liars : : Welcome to the Message Board. : I knew from the Schundler days at City Hall. For you to allow your site to become a hi-tec URBAN Times News is displcable. You allow slander and smut from Glazer and Jackson and say well anyone can post here but not everyone can lower themselves to attack families, call names, repeat sexual rumors, play racist politics etc. Only the skum. Now I see you advertise in the UTN so all pretense is over. You are now one of Jackson's boys and we know it and won't forget it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dorothy in OZ posted Message 1333 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 23:30:47 Subject: A Political Hack like Weiss thank God no more all things being equal Jersey Journal will have one less person to not cover real corruption and lie for its politcal buddies like the HCDO. Stealing from the people has to come to an end in this case nature took it is part of the great circle of life. Born with hope and dreams the Jersey Journal has turned to soil and I hope it does not get to rank. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dirt Bag Glazer posted Message 1334 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 23:33:53 Subject: Re: Welcome to the Message Board. : No shame on you for supporting the Corruption that has taken from everyone and enriched the few. You are a supporter of liars : : : Welcome to the Message Board. : : I knew from the Schundler days at City Hall. For you to allow your site to become a hi-tec URBAN Times News is displcable. You allow slander and smut from Glazer and Jackson and say well anyone can post here but not everyone can lower themselves to attack families, call names, repeat sexual rumors, play racist politics etc. Only the skum. Now I see you advertise in the UTN so all pretense is over. You are now one of Jackson's boys and we know it and won't forget it. And you Steve are pond scum. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thank God for Glazer a real journalist posted Message 1335 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 23:34:25 Subject: Glazer should be nominated for a Pulitzer Award Against threats of death Glazer reported the crime and corrruption of the HCDO Peter Weiss did not. I thought telling the truth was part of being a reporter. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I do not care posted Message 1336 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2003 at 23:36:26 Subject: Re: Glazer should be nominated for a Pulitzer Award You are a bad person stop speaking about Glazer : Against threats of death Glazer reported the crime and corrruption of the HCDO Peter Weiss did not. I thought telling the truth was part of being a reporter. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1337 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 00:11:08 Subject: A Nobel Prize would be better Don't they have a Nobel Prize for the best sycophant ? And besides being a sycophant he's a lying, cheating nere-do-well. He's perfect. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay Go Away posted Message 1338 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 00:36:51 Subject: I'm not Glazer but I know Glazer and think he is cool How is it that your failure to witness the perfection of Glazer is so heavily documented. Glazer should run for office and steal and cheat that way you would find him acceptable. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reprint posted Message 1339 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 08:01:57 Subject: Peter Weiss Politicos respond to news of Weiss's passing Monday, September 08, 2003 By Agustin C. Torres Journal editorial page editor Peter Weiss died Saturday, and some of the most powerful men and women in politics cried when they heard of his passing. From our Advertisers The third-ranking democrat in the House of Representatives, U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, called The Jersey Journal from Cambridge, Mass., to say he was shocked. Menendez began to talk about how Weiss loved to remind him about how they first met - Menendez had just graduated high school and Weiss was covering Union City City Hall. "Yeah, I served him coffee as an aide in the mayor's office and asked 'How much sugar and cream, Mr. Weiss?'" said Menendez, who then began to sob. "We lost what amounts to the national archives for Hudson County, a county icon and institution. Presidents and governors who were running for office and came to Hudson County knew that it was paramount that they talk to Peter. Even people who have been caught on the edge of Peter's criticism, generally with humor, still have a great affection for him - as have I." New Jersey's U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg said he was deeply saddened at the loss of the man and talent. "Peter Weiss is the picture that we will all miss," Lautenberg said of the photo that accompanies his Political Whirl column. "He had an impish manner, in addition to being so beguiling as he probed so deeply. It was also deceiving because he sometimes wrote something you didn't expect. After you read the column, you knew it was right, and you always wished you hadn't said it." State Assemblywoman Joan Quigley, D-Jersey City, echoed the sentiments of others. "Peter Weiss was a remarkable reporter because he was trustworthy. Readers could trust him. If a politician asked him to keep something in confidence, he did, and that is rare these days, and, of course, he was also always amusing. He was universally liked and for anyone at any phase in politics, that's highly unusual." Paul Byrne, a political consultant and a controversial figure on the county political scene, was distraught over the passing of the columnist, who he called a close friend. "I spent more than 30 years, fighting with him, laughing with him, eating with him, and even when he was whacking the hell out of me - I enjoyed it," Byrne said. "In all my years in politics, no one had more of an impact in Hudson politics. No matter what side you were on, we all felt the same way about Peter. My heart goes out to his wife, Margaret Schmidt, and The Jersey Journal." Jim McQueeny, a News Channel 12 political analyst and president of the public relations firm Winning Strategies, knew Weiss when they both started as rivals on the North Hudson beat for competing newspapers. An emotional McQueeny called Weiss one of those Damon Runyon-types of newspaper men and women who had "fountain pens of steel and hearts of gold." "The sweetest-hearted guy in the toughest goddamn business covering politics in Hudson County," McQueeny said. "My first day on the job in journalism I was working for the Hudson Dispatch, and I met him when he was covering one of his first jobs for The Jersey Journal. I had to compete against the guy, and he beat my brains out with just shoe leather and I wondered how such good news stories came out in such a tough place to get news. While I was getting a beating, he would always have lunch with me the next day and he'd tell me how he got to me and the journalistic techniques. We became such good friends. He was my best man at my wedding some years later. "How someone covering politics in Hudson County for 30 years was able to retain credibility is by itself a triumph, and how he can do that and be such a kind soul is amazing." Hudson County Freeholder Maurice Fitzgibbons said news of Weiss's death immediately spread throughout the state. "Peter was a friend before I became an elected official," Fitzgibbons said. "He knew how to keep the relationship between a reporter and legislator who was a friend. I sometimes turned to him to ask his opinion on legislation, because I respected him." Hoboken Mayor David Roberts said Weiss's Political Whirl column was an essential institution. "You always wanted your name in Peter's column, it was that important," Roberts said, then laughed, adding, "And when he criticized you, it hurt. I feel we lost a close friend." One of the younger members of the Hudson political scene who appreciated Weiss as a person was Union City Mayor Brian Stack, who is convinced the columnist's perspective can never be duplicated. "No one will take his place," said Stack. "Even when I was mad, and I called him, he always had a knack of keeping me in perspective as to what was important in life." Freeholder Bill O'Dea considered himself a close friend of Weiss. "It's not often that a political reporter calls a political official a friend or a political official calls a political reporter a friend," O'Dea said. "That's how it was with me and Pete. It didn't mean that he always agreed with you." Hudson County Executive Tom DeGise recalled how in 1989 he first ran for political office and made the runoff for a City Council seat. "I lost the election, but I did make Peter Weiss's column," DeGise said. "When I read my name there I knew I had arrived." Lois Shaw, former Jersey City councilwoman, said she couldn't believe Weiss was gone. "I received an e-mail from him not long ago concerning an upcoming Harry Chapin concert. We're both big Chapin fans." Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham reacted by issuing a statement. "Peter over the many years became the identity of The Jersey Journal," Cunningham said. "Myself and all of the people of Jersey City whom he helped keep informed for so many years will miss him. We wish our strongest condolences to his family, colleagues and friends." Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith called Weiss's life a literary masterpiece that you hated to see end. "He spoke his mind and had a grasp of politics beyond that of any other reporter here," Smith said. Former Jersey City Mayor Anthony R. Cucci felt the same way, saying Weiss had a scholarly grasp of his subject with great insight. Cucci recalled a column Weiss wrote about the death of his wife, who was killed in a terrorist attack on a train during a trip to Peru. "What Pete wrote was so beautiful, yet objective, and so full of humanity that it transcended political partisanship," Cucci said. "I'll never forget it." Columnist Earl Morgan contributed to this article. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TS posted Message 1340 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 08:37:18 Subject: Kenny's Leg office for HCDO use! FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:  September 5, 2003 CONTACT: Katherine Cardino, (201) 653-1466 County Democrats Tap Javier Inclán to Succeed the late Janet Haynes as County Clerk, Nominee Would be First Hispanic to Hold Countywide Office (Hoboken), NJ) - Hudson County Democratic Chairman Bernard F. Kenny Jr. announced today that Guttenberg Councilman Javier Inclán will be the party leadership's choice for County Clerk when County Democratic Committee members meet Tuesday, September 9th, to choose a successor to the late Janet Haynes.  If elected, Inclán, 32, would become the first Hispanic to hold Countywide office in Hudson.  Approximately 40 percent of the County's population is Hispanic. "After careful consultation with a wide range of party leaders, it became clear that Javier Inclán was the kind of bright, young person we needed to fill the void caused by Janet's untimely passing," said Chairman Kenny.  "He will bring energy and commitment to this important leadership post in government and help us grow stronger as a party after the loss of such a beloved member of our Democratic family.  I am hopeful that the membership of the County committee will share this view." Haynes was re-nominated in the June Democratic Primary to serve a third five- year term but passed away in July at the age of 70 after being hospitalized for treatment of complications caused by a long battle with diabetes. "No one will replace Janet Haynes, but I am proud and honored to be given this opportunity to succeed her," said Inclán.  "I believe that my selection as the first Hispanic to serve in Countywide office is a testament to the openness and diversity of today's Hudson County Democratic Organization.  I am looking forward to working hard every day." Raised in Guttenberg, Inclán graduated from North Bergen High School and earned a B.A. in History from William Paterson College.  His managerial experience includes stints as Assistant Executive Director of the West New York Housing Authority and Director of Admissions at Monroe College in New York. He first entered public office in 1998, when he was elected to the Guttenberg School Board.  Two years later, he was elected to the Town Council.  Inclán has served as a member of Governor James E. McGreevey's transition team's Committee on Higher Education and currently serves as Executive Director of the Hudson County Democratic Organization.  He is a member of the Latin Kiwanis Club. If elected, Inclán will focus on the modernization of the Clerk's office with an emphasis on exploring new technology.  "We don't have to reinvent the wheel, but we can make it spin a little faster," he said. Across Hudson County, top Democrats are praising the selection of Javier Inclán for County Clerk:  "Janet Haynes' passing was a terrible loss for Hudson County," said County Executive Thomas A. DeGise.  "Still people should be heartened by the fact that Javier Inclán will work his butt off for the people of Hudson County - and he'll make them proud, whether they are Democrats, Republicans or Independents." "Janet Haynes was a legend and pioneer as the Hudson County Clerk, always conducting herself with the dignity and respect the office and title deserve," said Congressman Bob Menendez (D-NJ-13).  "Although there is no candidate that can replace Janet, I am confident that Javier Inclán will bring a new spirit and enthusiasm to the post, guiding the office into a new era of service and efficiency for all of the residents of Hudson County.  Javier is intelligent and energetic, and, as the first Latino countywide candidate, he will continue to open doors and create inroads for our growing and changing communities.  I look forward to working with him throughout this campaign season, onto victory, and through an exciting term." If selected by the County Committee membership next Tuesday, Inclán is likely to be recommended to the State to become the interim replacement for Janet Haynes, whose second term does not expire until December 31, 2003. ***************** End Of Article ****************** INVESTIGATE KENNY posted Message 1341 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 10:52:03 Subject: Kenny Uses PUBLIC FUNDS for Politics HOW DARE KENNY USE HIS TAXPAYER FUNDED OFFICE FOR HIS POLITICAL HACKS -- TYPICAL KENNY. The Phone Number in the Press Release is paid for by our Tax Dollars !!!!!!! US ATTORNEY - PLEASE HELP !!!!!! : : FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:  September 5, 2003 : CONTACT: Katherine Cardino, (201) 653-1466 : County Democrats Tap Javier Inclán to Succeed the late Janet Haynes as : County Clerk, Nominee Would be First Hispanic to Hold Countywide : Office : (Hoboken), NJ) - Hudson County Democratic Chairman Bernard F. Kenny Jr. : announced today that Guttenberg Councilman Javier Inclán will be the party : leadership's choice for County Clerk when County Democratic Committee : members meet Tuesday, September 9th, to choose a successor to the late Janet : Haynes.  If elected, Inclán, 32, would become the first Hispanic to hold : Countywide office in Hudson.  Approximately 40 percent of the County's : population is Hispanic. : "After careful consultation with a wide range of party leaders, it became : clear : that Javier Inclán was the kind of bright, young person we needed to fill : the : void caused by Janet's untimely passing," said : Chairman Kenny.  "He will bring energy and commitment to this important : leadership post in government and help us grow stronger as a party after the : loss of such a beloved member of our Democratic family.  I am hopeful that : the : membership of the County committee will share this view." : Haynes was re-nominated in the June Democratic Primary to serve a third : five- : year term but passed away in July at the age of 70 after being hospitalized : for : treatment of complications caused by a long battle with diabetes. : "No one will replace Janet Haynes, but I am proud and honored to be given : this : opportunity to succeed her," said Inclán.  "I believe that my selection as : the first : Hispanic to serve in Countywide office is a testament to the openness and : diversity of today's Hudson County Democratic Organization.  I am looking : forward to working hard every day." : Raised in Guttenberg, Inclán graduated from North Bergen High School and : earned a B.A. in History from William Paterson College.  His managerial : experience includes stints as Assistant Executive Director of the West New : York Housing Authority and Director of Admissions at Monroe College in : New York. : He first entered public office in 1998, when he was elected to the : Guttenberg : School Board.  Two years later, he was elected to the Town Council.  Inclán : has served as a member of Governor James E. McGreevey's transition team's : Committee on Higher Education and currently serves as Executive Director of : the Hudson County Democratic Organization.  He is a member of the Latin : Kiwanis Club. : If elected, Inclán will focus on the modernization of the Clerk's office : with an : emphasis on exploring new technology.  "We don't have to reinvent the wheel, : but we can make it spin a little faster," he said. : Across Hudson County, top Democrats are praising the selection of Javier : Inclán for County Clerk:  "Janet Haynes' passing was a terrible loss for : Hudson : County," said County Executive Thomas A. DeGise.  "Still people should : be heartened by the fact that Javier Inclán will work his butt off for the : people of : Hudson County - and he'll make them proud, whether they are Democrats, : Republicans or Independents." : "Janet Haynes was a legend and pioneer as the Hudson County Clerk, always : conducting herself with the dignity and respect the office and title : deserve," said : Congressman Bob Menendez (D-NJ-13).  "Although there is no candidate that : can replace Janet, I am confident that Javier Inclán will bring a new spirit : and : enthusiasm to the post, guiding the office into a new era of service and : efficiency for all of the residents of Hudson County.  Javier is intelligent : and : energetic, and, as the first Latino countywide candidate, he will continue : to : open doors and create inroads for our growing and changing communities.  I : look forward to working with him throughout this campaign season, onto : victory, and through an exciting term." : If selected by the County Committee membership next Tuesday, Inclán is : likely : to be recommended to the State to become the interim replacement for Janet : Haynes, whose second term does not expire until December 31, 2003. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Because of the Grand Jury posted Message 1342 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 10:56:27 Subject: Menendez began to Sob....... Mennedez began to sob ...... Whats the real reason Boss Bob is sobbing ? ? ? Evenyone knows Menendez cares only about himself - BOB MUST HAVE A PROBLEM. : : Politicos respond to news of Weiss's passing : Monday, September 08, 2003 : : By Agustin C. Torres : : Journal editorial page editor : Peter Weiss died Saturday, and some of the most powerful men and women in politics cried when they heard of his passing. : : From our Advertisers : : : : The third-ranking democrat in the House of Representatives, U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, called The Jersey Journal from Cambridge, Mass., to say he was shocked. Menendez began to talk about how Weiss loved to remind him about how they first met - Menendez had just graduated high school and Weiss was covering Union City City Hall. : "Yeah, I served him coffee as an aide in the mayor's office and asked 'How much sugar and cream, Mr. Weiss?'" said Menendez, who then began to sob. : "We lost what amounts to the national archives for Hudson County, a county icon and institution. Presidents and governors who were running for office and came to Hudson County knew that it was paramount that they talk to Peter. Even people who have been caught on the edge of Peter's criticism, generally with humor, still have a great affection for him - as have I." : New Jersey's U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg said he was deeply saddened at the loss of the man and talent. : "Peter Weiss is the picture that we will all miss," Lautenberg said of the photo that accompanies his Political Whirl column. "He had an impish manner, in addition to being so beguiling as he probed so deeply. It was also deceiving because he sometimes wrote something you didn't expect. After you read the column, you knew it was right, and you always wished you hadn't said it." : State Assemblywoman Joan Quigley, D-Jersey City, echoed the sentiments of others. : "Peter Weiss was a remarkable reporter because he was trustworthy. Readers could trust him. If a politician asked him to keep something in confidence, he did, and that is rare these days, and, of course, he was also always amusing. He was universally liked and for anyone at any phase in politics, that's highly unusual." : Paul Byrne, a political consultant and a controversial figure on the county political scene, was distraught over the passing of the columnist, who he called a close friend. : "I spent more than 30 years, fighting with him, laughing with him, eating with him, and even when he was whacking the hell out of me - I enjoyed it," Byrne said. "In all my years in politics, no one had more of an impact in Hudson politics. No matter what side you were on, we all felt the same way about Peter. My heart goes out to his wife, Margaret Schmidt, and The Jersey Journal." : Jim McQueeny, a News Channel 12 political analyst and president of the public relations firm Winning Strategies, knew Weiss when they both started as rivals on the North Hudson beat for competing newspapers. An emotional McQueeny called Weiss one of those Damon Runyon-types of newspaper men and women who had "fountain pens of steel and hearts of gold." : "The sweetest-hearted guy in the toughest goddamn business covering politics in Hudson County," McQueeny said. : "My first day on the job in journalism I was working for the Hudson Dispatch, and I met him when he was covering one of his first jobs for The Jersey Journal. I had to compete against the guy, and he beat my brains out with just shoe leather and I wondered how such good news stories came out in such a tough place to get news. While I was getting a beating, he would always have lunch with me the next day and he'd tell me how he got to me and the journalistic techniques. We became such good friends. He was my best man at my wedding some years later. : "How someone covering politics in Hudson County for 30 years was able to retain credibility is by itself a triumph, and how he can do that and be such a kind soul is amazing." : Hudson County Freeholder Maurice Fitzgibbons said news of Weiss's death immediately spread throughout the state. : "Peter was a friend before I became an elected official," Fitzgibbons said. "He knew how to keep the relationship between a reporter and legislator who was a friend. I sometimes turned to him to ask his opinion on legislation, because I respected him." : Hoboken Mayor David Roberts said Weiss's Political Whirl column was an essential institution. "You always wanted your name in Peter's column, it was that important," Roberts said, then laughed, adding, "And when he criticized you, it hurt. I feel we lost a close friend." : One of the younger members of the Hudson political scene who appreciated Weiss as a person was Union City Mayor Brian Stack, who is convinced the columnist's perspective can never be duplicated. "No one will take his place," said Stack. "Even when I was mad, and I called him, he always had a knack of keeping me in perspective as to what was important in life." : Freeholder Bill O'Dea considered himself a close friend of Weiss. "It's not often that a political reporter calls a political official a friend or a political official calls a political reporter a friend," O'Dea said. "That's how it was with me and Pete. It didn't mean that he always agreed with you." : Hudson County Executive Tom DeGise recalled how in 1989 he first ran for political office and made the runoff for a City Council seat. "I lost the election, but I did make Peter Weiss's column," DeGise said. "When I read my name there I knew I had arrived." : Lois Shaw, former Jersey City councilwoman, said she couldn't believe Weiss was gone. "I received an e-mail from him not long ago concerning an upcoming Harry Chapin concert. We're both big Chapin fans." : Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham reacted by issuing a statement. : "Peter over the many years became the identity of The Jersey Journal," Cunningham said. "Myself and all of the people of Jersey City whom he helped keep informed for so many years will miss him. We wish our strongest condolences to his family, colleagues and friends." : Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith called Weiss's life a literary masterpiece that you hated to see end. "He spoke his mind and had a grasp of politics beyond that of any other reporter here," Smith said. : Former Jersey City Mayor Anthony R. Cucci felt the same way, saying Weiss had a scholarly grasp of his subject with great insight. : Cucci recalled a column Weiss wrote about the death of his wife, who was killed in a terrorist attack on a train during a trip to Peru. "What Pete wrote was so beautiful, yet objective, and so full of humanity that it transcended political partisanship," Cucci said. "I'll never forget it." : Columnist Earl Morgan contributed to this article. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1343 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 13:23:09 Subject: County Executive, Tom DeGise: Glenn Cunningham's crew mucked up the County stable. COUNTY OF HUDSON OFFICE OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE BRENNAN COURT HOUSE 583 NEWARK AVENUE JERSEY CITY, NEW JERSEY 07306 PHONE: 201-795-6200 FAx:201-714-4825 ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 1344 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 13:32:36 Subject: Show topics for tonite The Passing of Peter Weiss, So far on short notice Bret Schundler and Bill O'Dea will share some Pete Weiss storys i'm sure one or 2 more people will also guest, 911 plans for this Thursday and all the other stuff i talk about 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Missuse of County Funds posted Message 1345 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 13:49:14 Subject: DeGise Squanders Tax Dollars on Political Letter How Dare Tom DeGise use our Tax Dollars on such blatant, vicious political letters. : COUNTY OF HUDSON : OFFICE OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE : BRENNAN COURT HOUSE : 583 NEWARK AVENUE : JERSEY CITY, NEW JERSEY 07306 : PHONE: 201-795-6200 : FAx:201-714-4825 ***************** End Of Article ****************** ?????????? posted Message 1346 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 14:01:07 Subject: Re: DeGise Squanders Tax Dollars on Political Letter Dear Know it all, So you feel the letter sent out in our tax bill from Cunningham was okay? ***************** End Of Article ****************** HudsonObserver posted Message 1347 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 14:42:06 Subject: Re: DeGise Squanders Tax Dollars on Political Letter That's right because the postage for the Cunningham letter was already paid for with the tax bills. It piggybacked on the tax mailing. No added cost except for the paper it was printed on. What was the postage bill for the DeGise letter? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City Must Seperate from Hudson County posted Message 1348 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 16:02:39 Subject: HCDO has gone too far this time Jersey City must seperate from Hudson County ASAP so as to save itself from the robbery of the HCDO and its corrupt buddies. Letters and accounting aside how is one to judge the true state of the fiscal situation when the corrupt run a good piece of it. Jersey City should be a seperate county . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer-Urban Times News posted Message 1349 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 17:12:13 Subject: UNCLE HARVEY LOSES SAME ELECTION TWICE-COURT KICKS HARVEY’S CASE OUT OF ELECTION CHALLENGE By Steven Glazer-Urban Times News-email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** The tide will turn and you will drown posted Message 1350 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 17:18:00 Subject: Stevie,stevie,stevie...... You are in such deep $hit. What will you do when the truth comes out? ***************** End Of Article ****************** JCNJ posted Message 1351 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 19:07:29 Subject: Pete Weiss Peter Weiss, Journal editor, columnist, dies Monday, September 08, 2003 By Patricia Donnelly Assistant managing editor Peter Weiss, The Jersey Journal's longtime political editor and columnist, died at New York University Medical Center Saturday from complications after heart surgery. For three decades, Weiss's keen observations chronicled Hudson County politics. He savored the scene as a chess player who took delight in anticipating the next moves. For him, though, it was the progression of the game that was most fascinating, not the end result. "Being a political writer for The Jersey Journal is as crucial and influential a position as being the theater critic for the New York Times. Peter Weiss carried this tremendous responsibility with good humor and sparkling wit. He was always respected and admired," said Steven Newhouse, editor-in-chief of The Jersey Journal. "In a political world where years of alliances and feuds create a byzantine web of intrigue, it takes a tremendous intelligence and keen sense of history just to decipher what is happening. Peter had a powerful combination of years of covering the beat, combined with a relentless curiosity and fascination that kept him fresh. Weiss loved the irony in reporting on the ever-changing alliances, poking fun as arch enemies kissed and made up. The Political Whirl column was usually crafted with several short items, but there were annual favorites like his holiday gift list and quizzes. His simple word choice belied the fine quality of his writing, which was always fluid and graceful. Weiss's reputation as an expert in the local political scene reached well beyond the county, however, and consultants on a state and national level would seek him out for his perspective on the local scene. "The Jersey Journal and the community have lost a dear friend and an invaluable resource," Judy Locorriere, editor of The Jersey Journal, said. "Peter brought so much to every relationship, whether personal or professional, and asked for so little in return. "He worked so hard at making this newspaper as good as it could be, often postponing vacations or working from his home on days off so that the paper wouldn't miss a news story. "His wife, Managing Editor Margaret Schmidt, liked to say they were the managing editor team, because he was our library, our fact checker and our integrity standard. "And he was a incomparable personal friend. Whether he was asking about my children and their triumphs and disappointments or asking if I could find a place for another friend's child as an intern at the paper, he was always selfless. And he was devoted to his wife, Margaret. We will all miss him so much." In addition to the column, which appeared three times a week, he also covered county government and local elections and assigned and edited stories on municipal meetings by the newspaper's correspondents. His knowledge of political maneuvers over the last three decades was invaluable, as was his expertise in the process of local elections, both the legal aspects and the more notorious shenanigans. When he left work on Aug. 19 for heart surgery, he said only half-jokingly that he had scheduled it between meetings of the county board of freeholders. "The Journal will not be the same without Peter," Scott Ring, publisher of the paper, said. "I would look forward to reading his column, because I knew I could trust what he said. I knew he would have the real story." It was in The Jersey Journal newsroom that Weiss, relaxed with his feet on the desk, gathered information for his column by taking calls from his many sources. Relaxed also described him sartorially: He preferred blue jeans and T-shirts but would occasionally pull a tie from his bottom drawer for a television appearance. Weiss came to The Jersey Journal in 1970 after having worked at the New York Post and Long Island Press. Born in Brooklyn, he was a graduate of Erasmus Hall High School and Long Island University. In 1996, he surprised more than a few friends by trading in his confirmed bachelor status to marry Schmidt. In his private life, he was a man of simple pleasures, preferring time at their Montclair home with Margaret and their dog, Mystery, enjoying a morning walk to the store for newspapers. An occasional day at the race track, closely following college and professional sports, a tidbit of political gossip, a mystery novel or a cold bottle of cream soda were among his greatest delights. He also loved folk music, crossword puzzles and trips to New Hampshire. He is remembered, too, as a man of great kindness. "He had a heart of gold and truly cared about the little people," said Ron Leir, a Jersey Journal editor and president of the Hudson County Newspaper Guild. "He went out of his way to do favors for them." Weiss had been an active member of the Hudson County Newspaper Guild, having once served as president and in the days when the union had a softball team, Weiss was the pitcher, Leir recalled. Another former staffer recalled a generous offer Weiss made in his behalf: "When The Jersey Journal was going through some tough times last year, I was among the staffers who would be leaving the paper as part of an agreement between the union and management," said John Petrick, a former Jersey Journal reporter now working for The Record of Bergen County. "When Pete found out, he took me aside and proceeded to tell me he would give up his job so I could stay, if that's what I wanted. I couldn't believe the gesture. Except it wasn't even a gesture. He really meant it. For a guy who didn't like to indulge in gushy displays of emotion, he had the biggest heart. And for someone so smart and with such an important job, he never took himself too seriously, either. I could still always just be silly and stupid in the newsroom with him. He had a great sense of fun." Weiss was anxious to return to his desk and reminded his wife on Saturday of a list of issues the newspaper had to cover in the coming days. He'd already started writing his first column in his head. It was going to be datelined "Hiatus," he said, referring to the note the paper had run every day his column was missing: "Peter Weiss is on hiatus." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Albert Camus posted Message 1352 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 19:25:49 Subject: Re: DeGise Squanders Tax Dollars on Political Letter : That's right because the postage for the Cunningham letter was already paid for with the tax bills. It piggybacked on the tax mailing. No added cost except for the paper it was printed on. What was the postage bill for the DeGise letter? Funny how you don't dispute a thing that was said in the letter, just the fact it was sent. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Toni posted Message 1353 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 20:04:04 Subject: Re: Menendez began to Sob....... Vigorous disagreement is expected, but curses and insults are not allowed! Obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, and threatening messages are forbidden! All off topic and libelous posts will be erased! No ads are permitted in this Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** toni posted Message 1354 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 20:04:43 Subject: Re: A Political Hack like Weiss thank God no more Vigorous disagreement is expected, but curses and insults are not allowed! Obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, and threatening messages are forbidden! All off topic and libelous posts will be erased! No ads are permitted in this Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Toni posted Message 1355 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 20:05:18 Subject: Re: Who cares if Peter died Vigorous disagreement is expected, but curses and insults are not allowed! Obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, and threatening messages are forbidden! All off topic and libelous posts will be erased! No ads are permitted in this Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR is a liar posted Message 1356 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 22:25:22 Subject: Re: Stevie,stevie,stevie...... Seems you have gotten ahead of yourself do not count your chickens before they hatch. Count the Target Letters your friends are getting. I believe the count is going to approach 150 soon maybe you will be next. : You are in such deep $hit. : What will you do when the truth comes out? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Crabtree posted Message 1357 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 22:45:20 Subject: Lern ta spel !! It's SEPARATE moron !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1358 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 22:49:36 Subject: Way to go Tom !!! Kick em where it hurts !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** J.P. Satre posted Message 1359 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 22:52:45 Subject: Re: DeGise Squanders Tax Dollars on Political Letter : That's right because the postage for the Cunningham letter was already paid for with the tax bills. It piggybacked on the tax mailing. No added cost except for the paper it was printed on. What was the postage bill for the DeGise letter? The money would have been far better spent on ads in the Urban Times or maybe a fat Joe rap concert. Or maybe another black something or another junket for Glenn, Sandy, Gene and entourage to go no. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1360 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 22:52:56 Subject: Sorry, I'm here to stay. I'll find Steve acceptable when he moves to Siberia. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1361 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 22:58:26 Subject: I wonder if Glazer ... would have the guts to call Council President Smith "Uncle Harvey" to his face ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Crabtree posted Message 1362 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 23:03:22 Subject: Don't hold your breath. The moderator of this board lets anything go in here. Especially on the part of the UTN Brigade. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 1363 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 23:04:52 Subject: Re: Stevie,stevie,stevie...... Now that is funny..My chickies have hatched an' they ez' laying me some fine eggs! Here chickie, chickie, chickie! And a target letter for me? Cool! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 1364 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 23:06:56 Subject: Re: DeGise Squanders Tax Dollars on Political Letter Sizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzle..your hot JPS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BEAVER posted Message 1365 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 23:38:55 Subject: Re: Sorry, I'm here to stay. NO ,NO. NOT SIBERIA! NOT YET THE FUN HAS JUST BEGUN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I have read some of the posts posted Message 1366 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2003 at 23:47:01 Subject: Peter Weiss Concerning Peter Weiss. All I can say is that the viciousness towards him & each other is appalling. I will say this about Peter though. Though Peter no longer lived in Jersey City, he still continued his life here. No matter how objective he as a reporter was supposed to be, it is inevitable that a part of him made it into what he wrote. As I am sure is the case with many of us, sometimes I agreed with him & sometimes I thought he was off somewhere in left field...sleeping. But I looked for those columns just to see what his spin was. Either way, he accomplished his goal...make us laugh, make us so mad as to crumble up the paper & throw it across the room, make us think. I, for one, will miss him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cunningham is a Republican posted Message 1367 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 08:02:53 Subject: Republican takeover plans Sine the Democratic Organization of Hudson County has allowed itself to become rich dumb and corrupt the only organized party is the Republicans. I suggest that one start to gather the dirt on this party since they will be just as dirty as the HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer is a Republican posted Message 1368 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 08:04:38 Subject: Glazer is Deep Throat Scary to think about but true Glazer worked for the Nixon Administration and arranged the Watergate breakin Glazer is deep throat. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazers cover story uncovered posted Message 1369 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 08:06:11 Subject: Grassy Knoll Glazer In Dallas one summer day on a grassy knoll Steve Glazer waited for the signal then fired upon the only hope this country had at the time. Glazer the man on the grassy knoll. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer is the second cousin of the Don posted Message 1370 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 08:07:49 Subject: Glazer has family ties to Scarinci Did you know that the Don is really half Italian the other half is Glazer's uncle Glazer and the Don are cousins. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer and the blackout posted Message 1371 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 08:09:11 Subject: Where was Glazer during the blackout the question arises where was Glazer during the blackout I wonder if he had something to do with it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Made Man posted Message 1372 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 08:09:56 Subject: Glazer has family ties to Scarinci In that case Steve is a "Made" man. : Did you know that the Don is really half Italian the other half is Glazer's uncle Glazer and the Don are cousins. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uncle Harvey's love child posted Message 1373 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 08:11:19 Subject: Glazer is the love child of Uncle Harvey Adopted by the Glazer family Steve is the love child of Uncle Harvey. All this attention garnered by Uncle Harvey is Glazers way of saying love me daddy love me. A cry for self a cry for love of a parent. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mc Greevey and Glazer posted Message 1374 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 08:12:35 Subject: Glazer was a room mate o Mc Greevey in college During college Glazer and McGreevey shared a dorm room it was there they discovered the joy on man love. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cunningham for Govenor as a Republican posted Message 1375 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 08:15:25 Subject: Cunningham for Govenor McGreevey is out Cunninghma could be in as Govenor if the HCDO got its head out of its a$$ and supported this new and exciting candidate. If they fail to do this then they are going to have to live with the Republicans because Cunningham is an acceptable candidate for that party since he is clean and not corrupt. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not Really posted Message 1376 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 08:17:30 Subject: Re: Glazer has family ties to Scarinci Technically no since to be made one has to be full blood Sicilian even Gotti was not made he was of Naples exstract. So Gotti was not the don they thought he was just a boss a regular fieldhand nothing important. : In that case Steve is a "Made" man. : : Did you know that the Don is really half Italian the other half is Glazer's uncle Glazer and the Don are cousins. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cunningham was won our freedom from corruption posted Message 1377 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 08:40:46 Subject: Cunninghams victory is one for all people As a uniter not a divider Cunningham can and will represent the interest of all the people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1378 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 09:10:47 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Luca Brazzi posted Message 1379 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 09:20:41 Subject: The Godfather I guess Cunningham made Glazer an offer he couldn't refuse. ***************** End Of Article ****************** David Duke posted Message 1380 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 09:24:14 Subject: Welcome Glenn !!! Always room for one more racist in the Republican Party !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bob Dole posted Message 1381 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 09:28:02 Subject: The Party of Lincoln Never fear. With stalwarts like Jose Arango, Charley Catrillo and Frank Gargiulo dirt will be very easy to find. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward Cleaver posted Message 1382 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 09:32:43 Subject: Clemency Ok Beaver, we won't send Stevie to Siberia just yet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR is an idiot posted Message 1383 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 11:10:26 Subject: Re: Stevie,stevie,stevie...... Lawyer liar it is all the same the way they twist the truth to met there own needs. Target letter you are not worth the effort probably cheated on the BAR if you passed it. : Now that is funny..My chickies have hatched an' they ez' laying me some fine eggs! Here chickie, chickie, chickie! : And a target letter for me? Cool! ***************** End Of Article ****************** SEPARATE moron posted Message 1384 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 11:11:25 Subject: Re: Lern ta spel !! You got the message you idiot : It's SEPARATE moron !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Beaver posted Message 1385 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 11:39:14 Subject: Re: Clemency Thanks Clem! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 1386 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 12:09:57 Subject: Re: Stevie,stevie,stevie...... Bar/c0cktail.. sounds good to me! : Lawyer liar it is all the same the way they twist the truth to met there own needs. Target letter you are not worth the effort probably cheated on the BAR if you passed it. : : Now that is funny..My chickies have hatched an' they ez' laying me some fine eggs! Here chickie, chickie, chickie! : : And a target letter for me? Cool! ***************** End Of Article ****************** June Cleaver posted Message 1387 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 12:56:32 Subject: Ward - You were Very Hard on the Beaver Last Nite LOL ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wolfman posted Message 1388 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 14:50:06 Subject: Lower than Losers Only Gaynors. Looking up at zero. Nothing is lower than a Gaynor. Bwaaah! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Beaver posted Message 1389 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 15:14:47 Subject: Re: Ward - You were Very Hard on the Beaver Last Nite LOL ***************** End Of Article ****************** Eddie Haskell posted Message 1390 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 16:22:20 Subject: The little punk got what he deserved. Ya know, Glazer reminds me of a cross between Lumpy and Larry Mondello. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Beaver posted Message 1391 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 17:14:24 Subject: Re: The little punk got what he deserved. No, Glazer isn't good enough to hang with that group. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Minister of Sinister, Master of Disaster, and Buddha of Tolerance posted Message 1392 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 21:10:10 Subject: Glenn Cunningham Republican Candidate for Govenor It seems the HCDO has created an enemy one that will leave the party ans switch to Republican. After all the racist treatment Glenn has recieve who could blaim him. With the Democratic party being a cash and carry affair with no real votes open to the public Cunningham is required to appeal to the voters via the Republican Party. Now this concept might seem strange to Democrats but the voters should actually choose the candidate and the govenor oh and one last thing no dead people get to vote this time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Man love the road to the Govenors Mansion posted Message 1393 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 21:16:03 Subject: The Story of Mc Greevey's secret alliances Many years ago in a town some where in New Jersey a young man envisioned a day when all people would be free and have equal access to government. That young man was hit by a car but his friend young McGreevey ran for govenor and won. Now the guy hit by the car was rendered a crippled and placed on public assistance. As luck would have it the poor delivery of services To be continued tune in next week ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roger Chugh posted Message 1394 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 21:20:05 Subject: Top Aid to Mc Greevey Being a top is very interesting in the East Village sense. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Heard it in the courtroom posted Message 1395 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 21:29:52 Subject: Re: Stevie,stevie,stevie...... Who is the idiot Glazer? you? Let's go to the tape! ***************** End Of Article ****************** herbert posted Message 1396 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 22:06:27 Subject: go bret go go bret go, in 2005 ***************** End Of Article ****************** J.P. Sartre-Translation posted Message 1397 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2003 at 22:31:42 Subject: Re: Glenn Cunningham Republican Candidate for Govenor : It seems the HCDO has created an enemy one that will leave the party ans switch to Republican. After all the racist treatment Glenn has recieve who could blaim him. With the Democratic party being a cash and carry affair with no real votes open to the public Cunningham is required to appeal to the voters via the Republican Party. Now this concept might seem strange to Democrats but the voters should actually choose the candidate and the govenor oh and one last thing no dead people get to vote this time. This is Ebonics. It contains a clear threat pf switcing parties by the Mayor if his demands are not met. Thats what I get anyway.Whole sections are written in a vernacular I am not familiar with. Thanks for sharing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted Message 1398 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 00:14:58 Subject: Re: go bret go : go bret go, in 2005 ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise Screwed Them Too posted Message 1399 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 00:50:10 Subject: Blackballed by Kenny & Menendez : Only Gaynors. Looking up at zero. Nothing is lower than a Gaynor. Bwaaah! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Union City posted Message 1400 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 01:50:17 Subject: Union City Heard that Brian Stack is going to sell the stadium in Kennedy Blvd. Poor people of Union City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gregor Samsa posted Message 1401 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 08:14:28 Subject: I Awoke Under My Bed in a Place Called Hudson The Nightmare terrified me so badly it had wakened me. But now that I was awake I still felt the Terror. Looking out from under the bed I saw Roaches the size of normal people heading out the door dressed in business suits and carrying briefcases on their way to jobs as public officials. Would this never end? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1402 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 08:38:30 Subject: Mayor Cunningham: "...Hudson County government under County Executive Tom DeGise has increased spending and has raised the county tax portion in this tax bill." Hudson County government under County Executive Tom DeGise has increased spending and has raised the county tax portion in this tax bill. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gazette posted Message 1403 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 08:56:00 Subject: Re: I Awoke Under My Bed in a Place Called Jersey City : The Nightmare terrified me so badly it had wakened me. But now that I was awake I still felt the Terror. Looking out from under the bed I saw Roaches the size of normal people heading out the door dressed in business suits and carrying briefcases on their way to jobs at the Urban Times News. Would this never end? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gazette posted Message 1404 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 08:58:54 Subject: Re: Stevie,stevie,stevie...... Steven Glazer has got to be the dumbest white man alive! You sold Jackson out! Have you picked up your application at Burger King? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1405 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 10:07:29 Subject: Observations and Questions County Executive Tom Degise's letter (please see the Link below) reacts to the above communication from Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham to Jersey City property. Comparing the measured and relatively brief statement of Glenn Cunningham on July 10 to the Tom Degise's lengthy and very strongly worded recent letter, it's impossible to call the one a response to the other. What was the point of Tom Degise's verbal drive-by shooting? His opponents quickly say that it was clearly political. I have to wonder, to what end? Tom DeGise can't be worried about his Republcan opponent in November's election. Judge Ditalia's courtroom is the current politcal arena. Rants and broadsides are all wet powder there. Why did County Executive Degise (and/or Jim Kenelly) wait so long to try for a one-up? It's basically been two months since Mayor Cunningham's corrspondence went out with the tax bills. Was the hope that the average person had lost their copy of the note and would get the impression from Tom DeGise's hard words that personal insults were made? And again, why use the present as as the time to escalate and continue a feud? Why -- at taxpayer expense -- did Tom DeGise send the letter out by itself. The County produces all sorts of literature. Why not just slip the two sheets in with that stuff? Some might say that as Jersey City sends out the tax bill, it holds some sort of unfair advantage in communicating with property owners. My suggestion is that Jersey City no longer act as messenger and bill collector for the County and the Board of Education. Those entities should start acting as their own collection agencies. Then, property owners can clearly see with each and every bill where the money is going. Perhaps a brief historical digression won't hurt. In '68, the only real constraint Richard Nixon had on choosing a Vice President was that he had promised to overlook Nelson Rockefeller. Besides that, all he was really looking for was somebody that would not create a negative impression. Spiro Agnew was suggested. As Agnew was a centrist and had a very good reputation for working with minorities, the Nixon camp was overjoyed and happy to offer the governor of Maryland the job. Well into the first term, Pat Buchanan warned Nixon of a challenge from the Right from Wallace. Buchanan advised Nixon to veer strongly to the Reactionary side. Nixon feared that this policy would wind up costing more in Moderates than it gained in Conservatives. Finally it was decided to send Spiro Agnew out as the Conservative Crusader. The Agnew of the Silent Minority that we remember was completely a construct of Pat Buchanan. The Tom DeGise that I remember as City Council President was polite and articulate, balanced and fair. A man who was happy to give his take on things to anybody. Since the 2001 campaign for Mayor of Jersey City, some seem intent that Tom DeGise act as the "Anti-Cunningham." Why is that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise Over reacted posted Message 1406 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 10:50:00 Subject: DeGise Letter was Crude & Unprofessional I found County Exec. Tom DeGise letter very crude and too political. I am upset that my tax dollars paid for what amounts to nothing more than a political flyer. It is very apparent that DeGise is not the sharpest knife in the drawer - those advising him can't be that bright either. PLEASE - Do not respond to this post calling me Glazer - I AM NOT GLAZER - I am just a taxpayer. : County Executive Tom Degise's letter (please see the Link below) reacts to the above communication from Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham to Jersey City property. Comparing the measured and relatively brief statement of Glenn Cunningham on July 10 to the Tom Degise's lengthy and very strongly worded recent letter, it's impossible to call the one a response to the other. : What was the point of Tom Degise's verbal drive-by shooting? His opponents quickly say that it was clearly political. I have to wonder, to what end? Tom DeGise can't be worried about his Republcan opponent in November's election. Judge Ditalia's courtroom is the current politcal arena. Rants and broadsides are all wet powder there. : Why did County Executive Degise (and/or Jim Kenelly) wait so long to try for a one-up? It's basically been two months since Mayor Cunningham's corrspondence went out with the tax bills. Was the hope that the average person had lost their copy of the note and would get the impression from Tom DeGise's hard words that personal insults were made? And again, why use the present as as the time to escalate and continue a feud? : Why -- at taxpayer expense -- did Tom DeGise send the letter out by itself. The County produces all sorts of literature. Why not just slip the two sheets in with that stuff? : Some might say that as Jersey City sends out the tax bill, it holds some sort of unfair advantage in communicating with property owners. My suggestion is that Jersey City no longer act as messenger and bill collector for the County and the Board of Education. Those entities should start acting as their own collection agencies. Then, property owners can clearly see with each and every bill where the money is going. : Perhaps a brief historical digression won't hurt. In '68, the only real constraint Richard Nixon had on choosing a Vice President was that he had promised to overlook Nelson Rockefeller. Besides that, all he was really looking for was somebody that would not create a negative impression. Spiro Agnew was suggested. As Agnew was a centrist and had a very good reputation for working with minorities, the Nixon camp was overjoyed and happy to offer the governor of Maryland the job. Well into the first term, Pat Buchanan warned Nixon of a challenge from the Right from Wallace. Buchanan advised Nixon to veer strongly to the Reactionary side. Nixon feared that this policy would wind up costing more in Moderates than it gained in Conservatives. Finally it was decided to send Spiro Agnew out as the Conservative Crusader. The Agnew of the Silent Minority that we remember was completely a construct of Pat Buchanan. : The Tom DeGise that I remember as City Council President was polite and articulate, balanced and fair. A man who was happy to give his take on things to anybody. Since the 2001 campaign for Mayor of Jersey City, some seem intent that Tom DeGise act as the "Anti-Cunningham." Why is that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** I am not Glazer posted Message 1407 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 11:08:31 Subject: Re: DeGise Letter was Crude & Unprofessional OKAY GLAZER! : I found County Exec. Tom DeGise letter very crude and too political. I am upset that my tax dollars paid for what amounts to nothing more than a political flyer. : It is very apparent that DeGise is not the sharpest knife in the drawer - those advising him can't be that bright either. : PLEASE - Do not respond to this post calling me Glazer - I AM NOT GLAZER - I am just a taxpayer. : : County Executive Tom Degise's letter (please see the Link below) reacts to the above communication from Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham to Jersey City property. Comparing the measured and relatively brief statement of Glenn Cunningham on July 10 to the Tom Degise's lengthy and very strongly worded recent letter, it's impossible to call the one a response to the other. : : What was the point of Tom Degise's verbal drive-by shooting? His opponents quickly say that it was clearly political. I have to wonder, to what end? Tom DeGise can't be worried about his Republcan opponent in November's election. Judge Ditalia's courtroom is the current politcal arena. Rants and broadsides are all wet powder there. : : Why did County Executive Degise (and/or Jim Kenelly) wait so long to try for a one-up? It's basically been two months since Mayor Cunningham's corrspondence went out with the tax bills. Was the hope that the average person had lost their copy of the note and would get the impression from Tom DeGise's hard words that personal insults were made? And again, why use the present as as the time to escalate and continue a feud? : : Why -- at taxpayer expense -- did Tom DeGise send the letter out by itself. The County produces all sorts of literature. Why not just slip the two sheets in with that stuff? : : Some might say that as Jersey City sends out the tax bill, it holds some sort of unfair advantage in communicating with property owners. My suggestion is that Jersey City no longer act as messenger and bill collector for the County and the Board of Education. Those entities should start acting as their own collection agencies. Then, property owners can clearly see with each and every bill where the money is going. : : Perhaps a brief historical digression won't hurt. In '68, the only real constraint Richard Nixon had on choosing a Vice President was that he had promised to overlook Nelson Rockefeller. Besides that, all he was really looking for was somebody that would not create a negative impression. Spiro Agnew was suggested. As Agnew was a centrist and had a very good reputation for working with minorities, the Nixon camp was overjoyed and happy to offer the governor of Maryland the job. Well into the first term, Pat Buchanan warned Nixon of a challenge from the Right from Wallace. Buchanan advised Nixon to veer strongly to the Reactionary side. Nixon feared that this policy would wind up costing more in Moderates than it gained in Conservatives. Finally it was decided to send Spiro Agnew out as the Conservative Crusader. The Agnew of the Silent Minority that we remember was completely a construct of Pat Buchanan. : : The Tom DeGise that I remember as City Council President was polite and articulate, balanced and fair. A man who was happy to give his take on things to anybody. Since the 2001 campaign for Mayor of Jersey City, some seem intent that Tom DeGise act as the "Anti-Cunningham." Why is that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise Over Reacted posted Message 1408 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 11:48:35 Subject: Thin Line Between Love & Hate What on earth is wrong with you ? Not every post is from this Glazer guy - I AM NOT GLAZER. You are the one with the Glazer fixation - REMEMBER THERE IS A THIN LINE BETWEEN LOVE & HATE. : OKAY GLAZER! : : I found County Exec. Tom DeGise letter very crude and too political. I am upset that my tax dollars paid for what amounts to nothing more than a political flyer. : : It is very apparent that DeGise is not the sharpest knife in the drawer - those advising him can't be that bright either. : : PLEASE - Do not respond to this post calling me Glazer - I AM NOT GLAZER - I am just a taxpayer. : : : : County Executive Tom Degise's letter (please see the Link below) reacts to the above communication from Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham to Jersey City property. Comparing the measured and relatively brief statement of Glenn Cunningham on July 10 to the Tom Degise's lengthy and very strongly worded recent letter, it's impossible to call the one a response to the other. : : : What was the point of Tom Degise's verbal drive-by shooting? His opponents quickly say that it was clearly political. I have to wonder, to what end? Tom DeGise can't be worried about his Republcan opponent in November's election. Judge Ditalia's courtroom is the current politcal arena. Rants and broadsides are all wet powder there. : : : Why did County Executive Degise (and/or Jim Kenelly) wait so long to try for a one-up? It's basically been two months since Mayor Cunningham's corrspondence went out with the tax bills. Was the hope that the average person had lost their copy of the note and would get the impression from Tom DeGise's hard words that personal insults were made? And again, why use the present as as the time to escalate and continue a feud? : : : Why -- at taxpayer expense -- did Tom DeGise send the letter out by itself. The County produces all sorts of literature. Why not just slip the two sheets in with that stuff? : : : Some might say that as Jersey City sends out the tax bill, it holds some sort of unfair advantage in communicating with property owners. My suggestion is that Jersey City no longer act as messenger and bill collector for the County and the Board of Education. Those entities should start acting as their own collection agencies. Then, property owners can clearly see with each and every bill where the money is going. : : : Perhaps a brief historical digression won't hurt. In '68, the only real constraint Richard Nixon had on choosing a Vice President was that he had promised to overlook Nelson Rockefeller. Besides that, all he was really looking for was somebody that would not create a negative impression. Spiro Agnew was suggested. As Agnew was a centrist and had a very good reputation for working with minorities, the Nixon camp was overjoyed and happy to offer the governor of Maryland the job. Well into the first term, Pat Buchanan warned Nixon of a challenge from the Right from Wallace. Buchanan advised Nixon to veer strongly to the Reactionary side. Nixon feared that this policy would wind up costing more in Moderates than it gained in Conservatives. Finally it was decided to send Spiro Agnew out as the Conservative Crusader. The Agnew of the Silent Minority that we remember was completely a construct of Pat Buchanan. : : : The Tom DeGise that I remember as City Council President was polite and articulate, balanced and fair. A man who was happy to give his take on things to anybody. Since the 2001 campaign for Mayor of Jersey City, some seem intent that Tom DeGise act as the "Anti-Cunningham." Why is that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 1409 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 12:17:44 Subject: Re: Sorry, I'm here to stay. : I'll find Steve acceptable when he moves to Siberia. If it is true that Chakotay is here to stay, then WE are sorry. You should go with your bosses to club fed like the good doggie you are. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1410 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 12:19:21 Subject: Re: I Awoke Under My Bed in a Place Called Jersey City : : The Nightmare terrified me so badly it had wakened me. But now that I was awake I still felt the Terror. Looking out from under the bed I saw Roaches the size of normal people heading out the door dressed in business suits and carrying briefcases on their way to jobs at the Urban Times News. Would this never end? What do you care what UTN says? Nobody reads it anyway. Why does it disturb you so much that you have to react? ***************** End Of Article ****************** James Kennelly had a worse nightmare posted Message 1411 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 12:20:37 Subject: Re: I Awoke Under My Bed in a Place Called Jersey City : : : The Nightmare terrified me so badly it had wakened me. But now that I was awake I still felt the Terror. Looking out from under the bed I saw Roaches the size of normal people heading out the door dressed in business suits and carrying briefcases on their way to jobs at the Urban Times News. Would this never end? : What do you care what UTN says? Nobody reads it anyway. Why does it disturb you so much that you have to react? He awoke under Tom DeGise. The terror was real! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1412 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 12:22:41 Subject: Re: I Awoke Under My Bed in a Place Called Jersey City : : : : The Nightmare terrified me so badly it had wakened me. But now that I was awake I still felt the Terror. Looking out from under the bed I saw Roaches the size of normal people heading out the door dressed in business suits and carrying briefcases on their way to jobs at the Urban Times News. Would this never end? : : What do you care what UTN says? Nobody reads it anyway. Why does it disturb you so much that you have to react? : He awoke under Tom DeGise. The terror was real! To him, it was normal, everyday life. He insulated himself by assuming an alter ego and posting anonymously on message boards. It helped him escape the trauma of being himself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gregor Samsa posted Message 1413 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 12:24:15 Subject: Re: I Awoke Under My Bed in a Place Called Jersey City : : : : : The Nightmare terrified me so badly it had wakened me. But now that I was awake I still felt the Terror. Looking out from under the bed I saw Roaches the size of normal people heading out the door dressed in business suits and carrying briefcases on their way to jobs at the Urban Times News. Would this never end? : : : What do you care what UTN says? Nobody reads it anyway. Why does it disturb you so much that you have to react? : : He awoke under Tom DeGise. The terror was real! : To him, it was normal, everyday life. He insulated himself by assuming an alter ego and posting anonymously on message boards. It helped him escape the trauma of being himself. The nightmare would not end. I had become press secretary to a mediocre public official in a corrupt political machine ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 1414 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 12:37:42 Subject: Re: Sorry, I'm here to stay. TWO CAN PLAY THIS GAME! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer-Urban Times News posted Message 1415 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 12:41:35 Subject: I am a troll To all: I know I am a pittiful sap. Look at me.. I am a loser and the only job I could find is being a troll for Bobby Jackson. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Troll Hater posted Message 1416 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 13:01:18 Subject: Lets play kick the Troll How many kicks does it take to drive a Troll 100 yards? I'm not sure but I've always wanted to find out.. Now that we have an identified troll lets have a contest Kick the Troll. Now this is only suppose to be a joke. Lets do it anyway just for the fun of it maybe we can have a midget wrestling contest as well along with a wet tshirt and jello wrestling festival. Why not go out and find a goat for the Troll. I think Troll is code for cruiser like in the East Village. Glazer is a Troll code word for cruiser. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Undead posted Message 1417 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 13:06:10 Subject: Cryogenic Voting Services offered by the HCDO Just because your dead does not preclude you from voting as a registered Democrat in Hudson County. The HCDO is now offering Cryogenic Voting Services for the undead. So thing about it get frozen and still find representation. This is trully futuristic of the HCDO people that are brought back to life will have the elected officials they wanted. Rights of the dead are protected. Maybe an amendment will be floated to include dead as part of the peopl. Now a funny thing is there are more dead people than people alive. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Johnson is a Troll Keeper posted Message 1418 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 13:10:23 Subject: Johnson has a pet Troll The question is what do you get a man that has everything? The answer is a Troll. Now in Johnson's case I would have thought a jungle jim would be enough considering his idol is King Kong. When Johnson was born the doctor slapped his mother. Is it possible the Troll and King Kong are looking for Fay Ray or Jessica Lang. Dark in the basement of the UTN facilities a wonderful starlet is being held captive under the watchful eye of the Troll who serves his evil master King Kong. I would have said I needed another cup of coffee but this one proves I'm way over amped ***************** End Of Article ****************** Martin Jackson posted Message 1419 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 13:12:44 Subject: Re: Cryogenic Voting Services offered by the UTN : Just because your dead does not preclude you from voting as a registered Democrat in Hudson County. The UTN is now offering Cryogenic Voting Services for the undead. So thing about it get frozen and still find representation. This is trully futuristic of the UTN people that are brought back to life will have the elected officials they wanted. Rights of the dead are protected. Maybe an amendment will be floated to include dead as part of the peopl. Now a funny thing is there are more dead people than people alive. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roger Dodger and McGreevey want a Troll as well posted Message 1420 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 13:13:43 Subject: Roger Dodger Roger Dodger close friend to McGreevey has asked for and recieved a loan from the State of New Jersey which upon closing was forgiven. How do you like that a loan given then forgiven how does that happen. Actually if was not the State of New Jersey proper but the backing for the loan that allowed it go through on the banks ledgers. Guess the Bank that forgave the loan and win a prize. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay go away posted Message 1421 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 13:16:58 Subject: Re: I Awoke Under My Bed in a Place Called Jersey City Chakotay is really challenged here having never really woken up only coming to, never going to sleep only passing out. There is a difference between real life and what you think happens outside your head Chakotay. One more hint you idiot get a mirror looking at that picture is making you forget what mess you are. : : : The Nightmare terrified me so badly it had wakened me. But now that I was awake I still felt the Terror. Looking out from under the bed I saw Roaches the size of normal people heading out the door dressed in business suits and carrying briefcases on their way to jobs at the Urban Times News. Would this never end? : What do you care what UTN says? Nobody reads it anyway. Why does it disturb you so much that you have to react? ***************** End Of Article ****************** SGLAZER posted Message 1422 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 13:18:17 Subject: Re: I Awoke Under My Bed in a Place Called Jersey City Whatever you say Glazer ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay=Dufus posted Message 1423 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 13:19:40 Subject: Chakotay=Dufus Chakotay you are an idiot on a large scale. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Martin Jackson posted Message 1424 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 13:22:14 Subject: I'm an idiot If you have seen my postings you realize I'm a total idiot but thats OK because my best friend tells me everything is OK. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Foot in mouth posted Message 1425 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 13:41:28 Subject: Re: I'm an idiot OK is your best friend your left hand? OK ?ok! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1426 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 14:18:44 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1427 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 14:33:18 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1428 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 16:32:59 Subject: Ok I'll admit it I'm stupid and corrupt and work for the HCDO Ok if the truth be known I'm an operative for the HCDO I get paid to watch this board and try to take the edge off of the real truth. Basically I achieve this by telling lies but mostly by detracting from the person telling the truth. So it is a bad thing to help liars like the HCDO but I get paid very well and do nothing but bother people that post on boards its a great job. By the way I'm paid in a no show job guess which Agency. If you could get away with it you would do it to. Just so you know I do not believe a single thing I post. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1429 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 16:34:59 Subject: I'm a six hundred pound bull dike Last time I left the house was in 1957 I think is was raining anyway I have all my food shipped in and look at Cosmo all day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roger Chugh posted Message 1430 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 16:37:35 Subject: I'm taking all your money and you cannot stop me I'm laughing all the way to the bank you poor idiots paying taxes to get me richer. I thought America was the land of fortune but this is sick really sick I basically steal lots of money and do nothing but hang out with McGreevey. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don Scarinci posted Message 1431 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 16:42:00 Subject: So what I'm a crook but everyone loves me With all the money I have hidden offshore I can pay to have people love me. I have enough to keep everybody in Jersey City kissing my rear end for decades. Just so you know they will never find a penny of what I have taken they can look as long as they want. I'm rich and I took it from you so its your tough luck. I'm laughing at you right now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Minister of Sinister posted Message 1432 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 16:44:23 Subject: Last night I had dinner with our beloved Congressman As is the norm at a steak house he loves meat. The guy has a huge problem though all his friends are going to jail and can not pick up his tab any more. Imagine a poor Congressman. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1433 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 16:52:14 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** STEVEN posted Message 1434 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 18:43:01 Subject: Re: Ok I'll admit it I'm stupid and corrupt and work for the UTN : Ok if the truth be known I'm a troll for the UTN I get paid to watch this board and try to take the edge off of the real truth. Basically I achieve this by telling lies but mostly by detracting from the person telling the truth. So it is a bad thing to help liars like the UTN but I don't get paid very well and do nothing but bother people that post on boards its a great job. By the way I'm paid in a no show job guess which Agency. If you could get away with it you would do it to. Just so you know I do not believe a single thing I post. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven posted Message 1435 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 18:44:40 Subject: Re: Last night I had dinner with our beloved Bobby Jackson : As is the norm at a steak house he loves meat. The guy has a huge problem though all his friends are going to jail and can not pick up his tab any more. Wait he never did my boss is CHEAP! Imagine a poor Publisher. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven posted Message 1436 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 18:47:45 Subject: Re: Booby and Joe show : Bobbie J close friend to Joe C has asked for and recieved a loan all the waterfront corps. How do you like that a loan given then forgiven how does that happen. Actually if was not For Glen C the backing for the loan that allowed it go through on the banks ledgers. Guess the Bank that forgave the loan and win a prize. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven posted Message 1437 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 18:49:57 Subject: Re: Cryogenic Voting Services offered by the UTN : Just because your dead does not preclude you from voting as a registered Democrat in Hudson County. The UTN is now offering Cryogenic Voting Services for the undead. So thing about it get frozen and still find representation. This is trully futuristic of the UTN people that are brought back to life will have the elected officials they wanted. Rights of the dead are protected. Maybe an amendment will be floated to include dead as part of the peopl. Now a funny thing is there are more dead people than people alive. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Ain't Poor !!! posted Message 1438 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 20:11:05 Subject: Always Uses Campaign Funds To Stuff His Face Congressman Blobby Menendez HAS ALWAYS used his campaign funds to stuff his face. Maybe he is now trying to save that money for his own Defense Fund. : As is the norm at a steak house he loves meat. The guy has a huge problem though all his friends are going to jail and can not pick up his tab any more. Imagine a poor Congressman. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steve posted Message 1439 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 20:39:18 Subject: Re: Always Uses Campaign Funds To Stuff His Face : Blobby Jackson HAS ALWAYS used his campaign funds to stuff his face. : Maybe he is now trying to save that money for his own Defense Fund. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Real Chakotay posted Message 1440 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 21:55:16 Subject: I love it !!! I do believe you've become obsessed with me. Keep it up. I love to laugh. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm really a very lovable guy, once you get to know me. :) posted Message 1441 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 22:35:09 Subject: Re: Sorry, I'm here to stay. : I'll find Steve acceptable when he moves to Siberia. ***************** End Of Article ****************** poe posted Message 1442 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 22:59:51 Subject: Re: Sorry, I'm here to stay. Who is lovable? Chak 0r Glazer? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay says he is. Just ask him. Isn't that right Chak? posted Message 1443 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2003 at 23:29:45 Subject: Re: Sorry, I'm here to stay. : Who is lovable? Chak 0r Glazer? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Hudson County Tax Payer posted Message 1444 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 02:12:45 Subject: IS THIS TRUE? Hi, I read the following on a forum at (www.insldeunioncity.com) "According to well informed sources Anthony Russo cut a deal foe himself and will soon be made public that he is now a Federal Witness and will turn in many of his associates, including Bernard Kenny, and other former and present high ranking officials in Hudson County. I believe this falls under the category of CYA(cover your axx)in order to protect his own Axx." Is this true? Anyone has any info? ***************** End Of Article ****************** John24 posted Message 1445 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 05:02:43 Subject: The 666 Calculator is your spouse the Antichrist : Hey, Here is a Java Script gadget that will tell you if your name, your spouse or whoever comes up the big 666. What will Christians think of next? http://www.geocities.com/iamthekey_2000/calculator.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1446 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 05:48:04 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BayCity posted Message 1447 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 11:14:41 Subject: News Flash I am very proud to be the first to bring this news to the board. HCDO has lost their case!!! Glenn Cunningham, Tony Chiappone & Lou Manzo have been officially cleared of all fraud and overspending counts brought by the HCDO. Good luck to the official Democratic candidates! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The People Win !! posted Message 1448 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 11:36:01 Subject: Menendez's HCDO Loses in Court !! : I am very proud to be the first to bring this news to the board. : HCDO has lost their case!!! Glenn Cunningham, Tony Chiappone & Lou Manzo have been officially cleared of all fraud and overspending counts brought by the HCDO. Good luck to the official Democratic candidates! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 1449 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 12:47:23 Subject: ELECTION CHALLENGE CASE TOSSED-EVIL EMPIRE STUMBLES BIG TIME ELECTION CHALLENGE CASE TOSSED-EVIL EMPIRE STUMBLES BIG TIME Steven Glazer e-mail: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wait there one moment Flash Gordon posted Message 1450 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 13:54:32 Subject: Ming the evil leader has a few more tricks The other shoe dropping is the thing the to listen for. Ming and his evil crew of bad guys have a few more tricks. The independant agencies control vast amounts of power and can stop any progress dead in its tracks. Even a Senator/Mayor can do little to stop their empire the war is still on only a battle has been won. : ELECTION CHALLENGE CASE TOSSED-EVIL EMPIRE STUMBLES BIG TIME : Steven Glazer e-mail: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** WHERE IS THE MONEY posted Message 1451 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 13:57:19 Subject: WHERE IS ALL THE MONEY SO THE HCDO HAS BEEN TOSSED SO WHERE IS THE MONEY THEY STOLE. GUESS WHAT THEY STILL HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF POWER AND MONEY AND NO ONE IS GOING TO TAKE THAT AWAY ANY TIME SOON. ***************** End Of Article ****************** INSIDER posted Message 1452 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 14:16:09 Subject: Re: WHERE IS ALL THE MONEY WHAT ABOUT THE TAPE GLAZER? ***************** End Of Article ****************** More to come posted Message 1453 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 14:29:36 Subject: Re: ELECTION CHALLENGE CASE TOSSED-EVIL EMPIRE STUMBLES BIG TIME Many things will come out of the trial.Hear there is an audio tape that will land Bobby Jackson and his employee in court again. Was told the tape is very damaging and Jackson could go to prision for false statement under oath.Hear the feds want a copy of the tape. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BY-BLINDJUSTICE posted Message 1454 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 17:53:58 Subject: TODAY ON THIS DAY.... On this day, I lost no one I knew. But I lost everyone I knew. These people were me, they were you, they were us. As for those of you who say "Enough already", you are exactly the reason why there are those in the world who think America is weak. Your "yeah, yeah, yeah, well it's over so what, get over it attitude" is a sad commentary. You are either very cold & callous or in deeper pain than those of us who verbalize it. In either case, I well say a prayer for you too. U nited S trong A merican MAY GOD CONTINUE TO SHED HIS GRACE ON US. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Respond to Terror Nuke them into the stone age posted Message 1455 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 20:37:34 Subject: NUKE Saudi Arabia I'm proud of those that serve and honor those that have pasted but why must I tolerate the idiots like Sean Hannity and others with IQs of house plants. These people are so devisive in around patriotic activities it makes me sick. A simple remembering would do that and a report that every last terrorist was dead. Yes kill every last terrorist that is memorial enough. If this means breaking rules and violating the rights of the innocent by all means carry on. If it where possible in a legal manner I would have these terrorist torn apart by wild beast for public viewing. We are such a kind nation and civilized Ossam Bin Idiot has a mother she has not been taken and beaten for sport. We are so civilized thats why we die if the innocent civilians of any other nation where killed as ours where no questions would be asked when they destroyed evey last person affiliated with that group. Saudi Arabia must be stomped like a bug nuke them nuke them all that is justice nothing less than that. : On this day, I lost no one I knew. But I lost everyone I knew. These people were me, they were you, they were us. : As for those of you who say "Enough already", you are exactly the reason why there are those in the world who think America is weak. Your "yeah, yeah, yeah, well it's over so what, get over it attitude" is a sad commentary. You are either very cold & callous or in deeper pain than those of us who verbalize it. In either case, I well say a prayer for you too. : U nited : S trong : A merican : MAY GOD CONTINUE TO SHED HIS GRACE ON US. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE ONLY ANSWER posted Message 1456 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 20:39:07 Subject: UTTER DESTRUCTION OF SAUDIA ARABIA KILL EVERY LAST PERSON IN SAUDI ARABIA AND GIVE THE OIL TO THE CHINESE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE REAL TRUTH posted Message 1457 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 20:46:09 Subject: I love Ossam Bin Laden he reminds me of the HCDO The HCDO and Bin Laden have two things in common they harm and injure innocent people. OK Bin Laden kills them but he would approve of their corruption since all he does like the HCDO is harm people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** STOP Menendez KICK HIM OUT OF OFFICE posted Message 1458 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 20:49:35 Subject: CORRUPTION = DOMESTIC TERROR=Menendez WE NEED A BREAK FROM THE CORRUPTION OF THE BELOVED CONGRESSMAN Menendez. WE WORK ALL DAY AND NEVER GET A DAY OFF FROM HIS GRAFT AND CORRUPTION. FROM HIS EARLY DAYS IN UNION CITY TO HIS MACHINE POLITICS IN WASHINGTON HE HAS STOLEN FROM THE PEOPLE. THIS LEVEL OF CORRUPTION CAN ONLY BE DUPLICATED IN THIRD WORLD NATIONS RUN BY DESPOTS. Menendez IS A DOMESTIC TERRORIST. ***************** End Of Article ****************** IT WILL NEVER STOP UNTIL posted Message 1459 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 20:51:05 Subject: HCDO APPEAL JERSEY CITY NEEDS TO BE SEPERATED FROM THE CORRUPTION OF HUDSON COUNTY IT IS THE ONLY WAY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Crabtree posted Message 1460 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 21:39:55 Subject: Won't you ever learn ! It's SEPARATED not SEPERATED. ***************** End Of Article ****************** YAWN posted Message 1461 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 21:41:22 Subject: YAWN YAWN ***************** End Of Article ****************** YAWN posted Message 1462 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 21:42:12 Subject: YAWN YAWN ***************** End Of Article ****************** YAWN posted Message 1463 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 21:43:27 Subject: YAWN YAWN ***************** End Of Article ****************** THANKS TO BOSTON FOR 9/11 BAN THE RED SOX posted Message 1464 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 21:50:27 Subject: BOSTON AIRPORT THANKS FOR THE KILLING OF INNOCENTS ANOTHER REASON TO HATE BOSTON. BAN THE RED SOX, BAN BUYING OF FIDELITY FUNDS, BAN ANYTHING FROM BOSTON. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CORRECT THIS posted Message 1465 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 21:52:41 Subject: CORRECT THIS ALL THOUGH YOU CANNOT NOT SEE THIS I'M HOLDING UP A FINGER GUESS WHICH ONE? ***************** End Of Article ****************** YAWN YOUR AZZ posted Message 1466 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 21:54:08 Subject: Re: YAWN : YAWN ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1467 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2003 at 22:50:19 Subject: Re: NUKE Saudi Arabia-Nuke 'em ALL!!! : I'm proud of those that serve and honor those that have pasted but why must I tolerate the idiots like Sean Hannity and others with IQs of house plants. These people are so devisive in around patriotic activities it makes me sick. A simple remembering would do that and a report that every last terrorist was dead. Yes kill every last terrorist that is memorial enough. If this means breaking rules and violating the rights of the innocent by all means carry on. If it where possible in a legal manner I would have these terrorist torn apart by wild beast for public viewing. We are such a kind nation and civilized Ossam Bin Idiot has a mother she has not been taken and beaten for sport. We are so civilized thats why we die if the innocent civilians of any other nation where killed as ours where no questions would be asked when they destroyed evey last person affiliated with that group. Saudi Arabia must be stomped like a bug nuke them nuke them all that is justice nothing less than that. : : On this day, I lost no one I knew. But I lost everyone I knew. These people were me, they were you, they were us. : : As for those of you who say "Enough already", you are exactly the reason why there are those in the world who think America is weak. Your "yeah, yeah, yeah, well it's over so what, get over it attitude" is a sad commentary. You are either very cold & callous or in deeper pain than those of us who verbalize it. In either case, I well say a prayer for you too. : : U nited : : S trong : : A merican : : MAY GOD CONTINUE TO SHED HIS GRACE ON US. AMEN!!!AND WHILE WE'RE AT IT, NUKE EM ALL, THE IRAQUIS SAUDIS AFGHANS LIBYANS IRANIANS SUDANESE YEMENI JORDANIAN SYRIAN EGYPTIAN ALL OF 'EM-- FRY THE SLAVE TRADING TERRORISTS ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1468 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 05:54:43 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No One posted Message 1469 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 09:29:31 Subject: Club HCDO Club Lets Businessmen Cavort in Dresses - Talking into his cell phone, ??? says he's in a meeting. He makes other business calls while he picks out what he's going to wear: a black dress, sensual stockings and high heels. ????, who asked that his full name not be used, is part of a group of high-flying HCDO who meet every week at a special club set up for tranies where they are free to be women for a time -- chatting, playing bingo or having a drink with their "girlfriends." ????'s club -- called "Versus Life Style" -- opened last year. To belong to its exclusive circle costs between $36 and $93 a month, depending on what services the client wants. Luxury cars are a common sight outside the unremarkable building that jealously guards the secret of its temporary occupants. "I've been dressing up since I was six years old. ... When I dress as a woman, I do it to express my emotions and sensitivity, something I can't do as a man," said ????, a top HCDO Official whose wife has no idea where he is. Many of the men say that, contrary to the public perception of cross-dressing, the practice has nothing to do with homosexuality but is about getting in touch with their feminine side or simply enjoying dressing up. Inside the house, wigs, carnival masks, out-sized high-heels, fancy lingerie, lace-up stockings, evening dresses, bridal gowns, school uniforms and fetish wear hang in the main hallway. Here the fantasies of the successful executives take off. Accessories used at the club like wigs, high latex boots and fake boobs cost between $200 and $600. Their high price tag is all they have in common with the Armani and Hugo Boss suits left draped over chairs as the men change into women. Under club rules, visitors may not come in search of sex or use their male names. Men get into the house either by recommendation or after passing an extensive Internet obstacle course that only genuine tranies would know how to do. "All sorts of people come here but most are HCDO bosses, used to giving orders or living under a lot of stress. This is an oasis for them," said ????. Services on offer include special lockers for clothes, parking, manicures and pedicures, maintaining a personal wine cellar and access to special events. To enter without being a member costs $129, including rented clothes, wigs, use of make-up and a four-hour stay. Unlike the flamboyant trany world shown in films like "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert," "To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything, Julie Newmar" and "High Heels," the house these executives frequent is more sedate and is even used as offices at times. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BUSTER posted Message 1470 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 09:30:50 Subject: BYE BYE FAT JOE-YOU GOTTA GO ME OH MY OH. TONIGHT YOU CAN EAT SOME FILET GUMBO ROLL ON OUT OF HERE AND KEEP ON ROLLING ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1471 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 10:03:06 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Conspiracy Theory posted Message 1472 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 10:14:27 Subject: HCDO, Gordon Getty , and Xanadu Hartz Mountain wanted the Xanadu Project yet it was awarded to friends of McGreevey. In order to beat back the case that Hartz Mountain filed and would have won the HCDO, McGreevey, and Gordon Getty pulled a bold move attack the Stern family. Eliot Spitzer was informed by Reflow Managment a Getty front of timing activity and timing competed with Reflows intended line of business. Getty is also a funder of the Xanadu contractors Mills and others. Since control of San Francisco is not enough for Getty he challenged using various shell companies the established developers of Northern New Jersey. The prize has been Xanadu and the untold story is gambling will be arriving at the Xanasu Complex as soon as the legal issues are cleared meaning bringing the Sterns into line. Benard Spitzer another real estate developer is involved and surprise he is the father of Eliot the State Attorney General. So again interest of the rich and famous come before the interest of the people. New York State, the State of New Jersey, and Gordon Getty arrived at a conclusion stop the Sterns by any means and while the case for Xanadu has not been dropped the reputation of the Sterns has been damaged for no real legal reason at all. In this case the HCDO where running an job for outside special interest. When the casinos open and Getty and others are exposed as owners look back to this post ***************** End Of Article ****************** BYE BYE GLAZER posted Message 1473 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 10:40:02 Subject: Re: BYE BYE FAT JOE-YOU GOTTA GO Many things will come out of the trial.Hear there is an audio tape that will land Bobby Jackson and his employee in court again. Was told the tape is very damaging and Jackson could go to prision for false statement under oath.Hear the feds want a copy of the tape. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RAMEZ ERIAN posted Message 1474 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 11:47:35 Subject: Re: The Jersey City Parking Authority Meeting of the Board: June 17, 2003 : See the Link for Online audio. Hi I would like to see applications online for example The Parking Authority Of The City Of Jersey City Parking Permit Application. Thank you ***************** End Of Article ****************** Timothy Henderson posted Message 1475 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 12:01:44 Subject: Re: The Jersey City Parking Authority Meeting of the Board: June 17, 2003 : : See the Link for Online audio. : : Hi : I would like to see applications online for example The Parking Authority Of The City Of Jersey City Parking Permit Application. : Thank you The permit application is Online. See the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** EITHER OR posted Message 1476 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 13:04:58 Subject: Re: BYE BYE FAT JOE-YOU GOTTA GO : : Many things will come out of the trial.Hear there is an audio tape that will land Bobby Jackson and his employee in court again. Was told the tape is very damaging and Jackson could go to prision for false statement under oath.Hear the feds want a copy of the tape. YAWN LIMITED MINDS LIMIT POSSIBLITIES-YAWN YOU MUST BORE YOURSELF ***************** End Of Article ****************** DAWG posted Message 1477 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 15:24:17 Subject: Re: HCDO, Gordon Getty , and Xanadu YAWN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** OY VEY posted Message 1478 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 18:51:05 Subject: ELEC UPDATE THE CASE IS STILL ON????? The New Jersey state Election Law Enforcement Commission is not willing to let Thursday's precedent-setting ruling by Hudson County Superior Court Judge Arthur N. D'Italia stand without a fight. Dr. Frederick M. Herrmann, ELEC's executive director, said today that his commission is ready to mount a legal challenge to D'Italia's ruling that the campaign contribution limits prescribed by a 1973 state law apply only to general elections, and not primaries. Herrmann met with ELEC's four commissioners in a hastily-arranged conference call this morning and said the group authorized its lawyers to take whatever legal action is necessary to defend the 1973 limits, which ELEC has always interpreted as applying to primaries. "We just think the way we've been doing it for thirty years works, and we want to keep doing it," Herrmann said. Herrmann indicated he does not yet know how or when ELEC might mount a legal challenge, and said the answer will depend greatly on the outcome of the appeal in the case D'Italia ruled on. The case was brought by the Hudson County Democratic Organization, whose slate of candidates in the 31st Legislative District was defeated in the June primary. The HCDO contended that the winning candidates were aided by contributions from political action committees that far exceeded the $7,200 per candidate cap dictated by law. But D'Italia dismissed the suit, saying that his reading of the 1973 law led him to believe that legislators had intentionally drawn a distinction between general elections, in which candidates are directly elected to office, and primaries, in which parties merely select their candidates for general elections. The HCDO blasted the ruling as a bad precedent that could lead to chaos in future campaigns and promised to appeal. Herrmann stressed that ELEC has no position on the specifics of the HCDO's case but wants the appeal to succeed in the interests of upholding ELEC's reading of the 1973 law. "Our only concern here is in protecting the integrity of the campaign act," said Herrmann, who indicated that ELEC will continue to mete out fines to campaigns that violate the contribution limits in primaries pending further court rulings. Without contribution limits, the way primaries are conducted in New Jersey could change dramatically. There are currently no spending limits for primary or general election campaigns, but before D'Italia's ruling, individual candidates could accept no more than $2,200 per year from individual donors and $7,200 from political action committees. But under the ruling, a candidate could accept any amount of money from any kind of donor in a primary. The only legal requirement, D'Italia indicated in his ruling, is that campaigns report each contribution and expenditure. While the contribution limits would still apply to general elections, it is unclear under D'Italia's ruling what would prevent a campaign from raising unlimited money during a primary and then transferring the campaign balance for use in the general election. The lack of contribution limits in primaries and the ability of campaigns to transfer their primary war chests to the general election call into question the relevance of ELEC itself as an oversight body. "This is nuts," said Ingrid Reed, the director of the New Jersey Project at Rutgers University's Eagleton Institute. The ruling does a disservice to the public, Reed said, because there is a widespread consensus that there should be contribution limits in campaigns and most people don't see a significant difference between primaries and general elections. "This kind of legalism that says running for your party's nomination for public office and running for public office are somehow not the same is just what builds cynicism," Reed said. "If the appellate court doesn't straighten this out, then the legislature needs to clarify it." Richard J. Codey (D-West Orange), the state Senate's Democratic Co-President, said the ruling creates too many questions and indicated the legislature probably would seek to rewrite campaign finance laws to include limits for primaries -- if the ruling is not first overturned. "I think there would have to be some kind of law put in place," Codey said. "Just because it's a party election doesn't mean it's not still paid for by the taxpayers." Not everyone thinks having primaries without contribution limits is a bad idea. Angelo J. Genova, the attorney who successfully argued for the dismissal of the HCDO's suit, said Thursday that the ruling actually "evens the playing field" for future candidates. Genova's clients --state Senate candidate Glenn D. Cunningham and Assembly candidates Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo -- maintained that they were disadvantaged by rules that allowed a county party organization like the HCDO to solicit contributions of up to $37,000 from individuals and spend whatever it wanted on behalf of its chosen candidates. The HCDO bankrolled large portions of the campaigns of 31st District state Senate candidate L. Harvey Smith and Assembly incumbents Joseph V. Doria (D-Bayonne) and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli (D-Jersey City). ***************** End Of Article ****************** BUSTER posted Message 1479 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 20:09:41 Subject: DID YA HEAR THE ONE ABOUT "SOBBIN' BOB" BOB MENENDEZ "SOBBING" OVER THE NEWS OF PETEY WEISS' DEATH. THIS IS THE SAME GUY WHO WOULD NOT BURY HIS OWN FATHER, DARIUS MENENDEZ. MUSTO PAID FOR THE FUNERAL OF MENENDEZ' FATHER. THE SAME GUY "SOBS" FOR PETE WEISS. SURE HE DID. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Methuselah posted Message 1480 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 20:43:59 Subject: The McGreevey Team Protects It's Own! 'Nuff said. : The New Jersey state Election Law Enforcement Commission is not willing to let Thursday's precedent-setting ruling by Hudson County Superior Court Judge Arthur N. D'Italia stand without a fight. : Dr. Frederick M. Herrmann, ELEC's executive director, said today that his commission is ready to mount a legal challenge to D'Italia's ruling that the campaign contribution limits prescribed by a 1973 state law apply only to general elections, and not primaries. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Methuselah posted Message 1481 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 20:46:39 Subject: Re: DID YA HEAR THE ONE ABOUT "SOBBIN' BOB" By now, Balancing Act Bob has probably got a speach coach, an acting coach, a dancing coach, and a singing coach. : BOB MENENDEZ "SOBBING" OVER THE NEWS OF PETEY WEISS' DEATH. THIS IS THE SAME GUY WHO WOULD NOT BURY HIS OWN FATHER, DARIUS MENENDEZ. MUSTO PAID FOR THE FUNERAL OF MENENDEZ' FATHER. THE SAME GUY "SOBS" FOR PETE WEISS. SURE HE DID. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Bob posted Message 1482 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 21:13:29 Subject: Take the Fifth The Donald takes the fifth. Bernie is now taking about a half-gallon, neat, I reckon. Adios, fellas. See ya in about 10 to 20. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Night at the Opera posted Message 1483 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 21:41:42 Subject: Re: DID YA HEAR THE ONE ABOUT "SOBBIN' BOB" What about Doria? I'M WAITING TO HEAR THE FAT MAN SING! : By now, Balancing Act Bob has probably got a speach coach, an acting coach, a dancing coach, and a singing coach. : : : BOB MENENDEZ "SOBBING" OVER THE NEWS OF PETEY WEISS' DEATH. THIS IS THE SAME GUY WHO WOULD NOT BURY HIS OWN FATHER, DARIUS MENENDEZ. MUSTO PAID FOR THE FUNERAL OF MENENDEZ' FATHER. THE SAME GUY "SOBS" FOR PETE WEISS. SURE HE DID. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sue Ellen posted Message 1484 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 21:59:03 Subject: Re: Take the Fifth What will you do? Fifth ,guilty give Bobby up what? ***************** End Of Article ****************** OBL posted Message 1485 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2003 at 22:11:37 Subject: Al-Jazeera faked the tape Al-Jazeera faked the tape and has been working as the media relations organization for OBL ***************** End Of Article ****************** Real Crockadile Tears posted Message 1486 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 01:39:11 Subject: BOB Menendez Only SOBS 4 Himself : What about Doria? I'M WAITING TO HEAR THE FAT MAN SING! : : By now, Balancing Act Bob has probably got a speach coach, an acting coach, a dancing coach, and a singing coach. : : : : : BOB MENENDEZ "SOBBING" OVER THE NEWS OF PETEY WEISS' DEATH. THIS IS THE SAME GUY WHO WOULD NOT BURY HIS OWN FATHER, DARIUS MENENDEZ. MUSTO PAID FOR THE FUNERAL OF MENENDEZ' FATHER. THE SAME GUY "SOBS" FOR PETE WEISS. SURE HE DID. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1487 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 05:22:10 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jailhouserock posted Message 1488 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 08:42:33 Subject: A little trivia 1: The Swiss Spaghetti Harvest In 1957 the respected BBC news show Panorama announced that thanks to a very mild winter and the virtual elimination of the dreaded spaghetti weevil, Swiss farmers were enjoying a bumper spaghetti crop. It accompanied this announcement with footage of Swiss peasants pulling strands of spaghetti down from trees. Huge numbers of viewers were taken in, and many called up wanting to know how they could grow their own spaghetti trees. To this question, the BBC diplomatically replied that they should "place a sprig of spaghetti in a tin of tomato sauce and hope for the best." #2: San Serriffe In 1977 the British newspaper The Guardian published a special seven-page supplement in honor of the tenth anniversary of San Serriffe, a small republic located in the Indian Ocean consisting of several semi-colon-shaped islands. A series of articles affectionately described the geography and culture of this obscure nation. Its two main islands were named Upper Caisse and Lower Caisse. Its capital was Bodoni, and its leader was General Pica. The Guardian's phones rang all day as readers sought more information about the idyllic holiday spot. Few noticed that everything about the island was named after printer's terminology. The success of this hoax is widely credited with launching the enthusiasm for April Foolery that then gripped the British tabloids in the following decades. #3: Sidd Finch In its April 1985 edition, Sports Illustrated published a story about a new rookie pitcher who planned to play for the Mets. His name was Sidd Finch and he could reportedly throw a baseball with startling, pinpoint accuracy at 168 mph (65 mph faster than anyone else has ever been able to throw a ball). Surprisingly, Sidd Finch had never even played the game before. Instead, he had mastered the "art of the pitch" in a Tibetan monastery under the guidance of the "great poet-saint Lama Milaraspa." Mets fans everywhere celebrated at their teams's amazing luck at having found such a gifted player, and Sports Illustrated was flooded with requests for more information. But in reality this legendary player only existed in the imagination of the writer of the article, George Plimpton. #4: The Taco Liberty Bell In 1996 the Taco Bell Corporation announced that it had bought the Liberty Bell from the federal government and was renaming it the Taco Liberty Bell. Hundreds of outraged citizens called up the National Historic Park in Philadelphia where the bell is housed to express their anger. Their nerves were only calmed when Taco Bell revealed that it was all a joke a few hours later. The best line inspired by the affair came when White House press secretary Mike McCurry was asked about the sale, and he responded that the Lincoln Memorial had also been sold, though to a different corporation, and would now be known as the Ford Lincoln Mercury Memorial. #5: Nixon for President In 1992 National Public Radio's Talk of the Nation program announced that Richard Nixon, in a surprise move, was running for President again. His new campaign slogan was, "I didn't do anything wrong, and I won't do it again." Accompanying this announcement were audio clips of Nixon delivering his candidacy speech. Listeners responded viscerally to the announcement, flooding the show with calls expressing shock and outrage. Only during the second half of the show did the host John Hockenberry reveal that the announcement was a joke. Nixon's voice was impersonated by comedian Rich Little. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 1489 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 09:38:23 Subject: Ruling Voids Spending Caps in New Jersey's Primary Races Ruling Voids Spending Caps in New Jersey's Primary Races By DAVID KOCIENIEWSKI New York Times TRENTON, Sept. 12 — In a court decision that has startled New Jersey election officials and political leaders from both parties, a Superior Court judge has ruled that the state's campaign spending limits do not apply to candidates in primary elections. The ruling, which was handed down Thursday during a court fight in Hudson County between two Democratic candidates for the Assembly, essentially sets aside regulations that have governed New Jersey primary campaigns for more than 30 years. The ruling, which affects primaries for state and local elections, but not federal elections, sent political leaders and election lawyers scrambling today. The nonpartisan Election Law Enforcement Commission held an emergency conference and said it would go to court to have the ruling clarified because it "threatened the integrity" of New Jersey campaign finance law. Democratic and Republican leaders said they were considering mounting legal challenges, even as they studied the ruling to determine whether it offered them a competitive advantage. No primaries are scheduled until next spring, and either court challenges or legislative action could negate the ruling. But national experts on campaign finance predicted that if the ruling stood, it would allow corporations and wealthy individuals to sidestep donation limits and drastically increase both the cost of races and the influence of major contributors. "For over 25 years, contribution limits have been the key to trying to control the appearance of corruption and undue influence in the political process," said Larry Noble, the executive director of the Center for Responsive Politics and the former general counsel of the Federal Election Commission. "If this stays in effect, then you have a major problems in New Jersey elections." Judge Arthur D'Italia, of the Hudson County Superior Court, handed down the decision in a case brought by Assemblyman Joseph V. Doria, a Democrat, and his running mates, who were challenging the results of the June primary, which they lost. Mr. Doria and Hudson County Democratic leaders contend that their opponents illegally used $182,000 that had been funneled through a political action committee. Judge D'Italia dismissed the suit, saying that the spending limits in New Jersey's campaign finance statute apply specifically to races for "elective office," but that primaries decide only who will win the party nomination. Angelo Genova, the lawyer who argued and won the case on behalf of the candidates backed by the Jersey City mayor, Glenn Cunningham, said party leaders who supported Mr. Doria were overstating the impact of the ruling because they were frustrated by the failure of their lawsuit. But the prospect of unlimited spending in primaries brought criticism from across the state's political spectrum. State Senator Joseph M. Kyrillos Jr., the Republican chairman, said that the implications were "troubling" and that he had lawyers reviewing the judge's decision to determine whether to challenge it. Ross K. Baker, a political science professor at Rutgers University, said he was stunned by the judge's ruling, which he said defied what had been the accepted practice in the state for decades. "Good heavens, that's a thunderbolt," he said. "If there are people out there with big checkbooks, I think it's an open invitation for them to come in and take whatever amount of influence they want." The judge's decision strained the already tenuous relations between the Hudson County Democratic organization and the administration of Gov. James E. McGreevey. County leaders, who backed Mr. Doria and his running mates, said the attorney general's office had filed a letter in the case arguing that the election law applies to primaries, but withdrew it before the judge made his decision. "By failing to act in defense of these laws, Attorney General Peter Harvey has now ensured that primary election financing will resemble a lawless Wild West," said State Senator Bernard F. Kenny Jr., the Hudson County Democratic chairman. But Lee Moore, a spokesman for Mr. Harvey, said the attorney general's office had become involved in the case only to represent the interest of the Board of Elections, which was a neutral party in the dispute. Mr. Moore said the attorney general's office might participate in an appeal if asked by the board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** sal posted Message 1490 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 10:07:16 Subject: History carries Weiss's byline History carries Weiss's byline Saturday, September 13, 2003 When I was writing my book, "Five-Finger Discount: A Crooked Family History," there were just two people I called on a regular basis: my mother and Pete Weiss. My mother had all the family stories, Pete all the political ones. And like with my mother, I think I took Pete for granted. When I wasn't calling Pete (or my mom), I was at the Jersey City Public Library, photocopying news stories. And more often than not, Pete's byline was on them. Whenever there was a sweeping political roundup story written following yet another indictment, it was Pete who wrote it. He was the only one with a big enough grasp of what was happening, and what had happened before. It seemed Pete had always been there, not just as a fellow journalist. But from the time I started to learn to read, Pete had had a byline in The Jersey Journal. I grew up reading Pete. When I met him for the first time, during a high school trip to The Jersey Journal, Pete was sort of like a celebrity to me. I thought he would be taller (like you often think with celebrities). But Pete wasn't much taller than I was, the Bilbo Baggins of the newsroom - short but wise beyond his years, brimming over with personality, a great sense of humor, a particular glint in his eye, always a smile beneath that bushy mustache. When I went to work at the Journal in the late '80s, I learned that Pete was the subtle center of the newsroom, its quiet, boyish patriarch. Whenever one of my fellow know-it-all young reporters or I had a question, we'd end up in front of Pete's desk, humbly basking in his knowledge. But he was never arrogant. He always had that smile for you, a bit of cynicism - just a touch - beneath the warmth. Because he had seen it all. He hadn't memorized facts and dates, but lived through them, pen in hand. The politicians talked to him because of that warmth and charm. They told him things, and he told them to us. Unlike many of his fellow political reporters, Pete never sold out to take a job as a political flack. Because to Pete, his job wasn't just a job. It wasn't about a paycheck. I remember seeing him drive his car through Lower Manhattan one day into the traffic snarl of the Holland Tunnel. He saw me in my car and waved an enthusiastic hello. He was living in Brooklyn back then, commuting from the deepest reaches of the borough, across the East River, through New York City and over the Hudson - or even worse, through Staten Island. Every day. It was a hell of a commute. But Hudson County was a destination for Pete. It wasn't something to pillage and plunder. It wasn't a place to run away from. It was his calling. Pete somehow never grew jaded. He stood by the ramparts day after day, watching the flags unfurl, watching the political battles rage year after year, watching mayor after mayor testify. Whenever we left town, or in some cases, moved away, we knew Pete would be keeping an eye on things for us, keeping score, and would be able to explain it all when we got back. Just the other day, a transplanted friend from Hudson County called from his new home in Texas. He heard about Pete, he said. He couldn't believe he had died. And it wasn't until then that it finally hit me, how large he loomed. And now there was that awful void, that hole that people sometimes leave in your life when they go away. It's a vacuum, a silent, terrible emptiness that usually follows the departure of a relative or a lover. But Pete was neither to me. Pete was the eyes and ears of Hudson County, recording that first draft of crooked history. He listened quietly, and watched just as quietly, and echoed back the political intrigue. Pete Weiss was Hudson County's conscience. Its Greek chorus. And now he's gone. Just like that. The politics will continue without him, without his studied, watchful eye. And that's the tragedy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GLAZER FAN CLUB posted Message 1491 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 10:35:40 Subject: Something to think about... If Steven Glazer was to go bye bye, would people write in to the UTN with kind words, would he have left any positive mark on society, has he touched anyones lives.. he trashes Pete making fun of his death why is he jealous? Would anyone care if Glazer was history? OR WOULD HE GO TO HELL QUIETLY! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Church Lady posted Message 1492 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 11:22:10 Subject: God Bless Steve Glazer Stop your hatred and nasty posts about Mr. Glazer. Steve is a fine reporter who helps expose all the corruption going on. God Bless You Steve Glazer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mellow yellow posted Message 1493 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 11:28:34 Subject: Re: God Bless Steve Glazer :GOD AND GLAZER IN THE SAME SENTANCE that is a joke ***************** End Of Article ****************** chuka chan posted Message 1494 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 11:30:03 Subject: Re: God Bless Steve Glazer Your a church lady...yikes! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fat Bob posted Message 1495 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 11:39:43 Subject: Latino Bob is only Spanish when it might help him... get a few bucks or a free meal. Papi Chulo is so latino. He always goes to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse for his mofongo. That's all on your dime. He is so ethnic Smith and Wollenski and The Palm have put Pernil on the menu in case he comes in with his Congressional entourage. Look at ELEC disbursements. Swill and Slop and it on all of us who pay taxes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BLOATED Not Pregnant posted Message 1496 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 12:11:36 Subject: Yummy Yummy Yummy I got Steak in my Tummy A steady diet of Porterhouse with Bernaise sauce leads to bloating. : get a few bucks or a free meal. Papi Chulo is so latino. He always goes to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse for his mofongo. That's all on your dime. He is so ethnic Smith and Wollenski and The Palm have put Pernil on the menu in case he comes in with his Congressional entourage. Look at ELEC disbursements. Swill and Slop and it on all of us who pay taxes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ceejay posted Message 1497 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 14:33:44 Subject: You go girl http://www.qnet.com/~pontius//smile/smilelmp_1[1].htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** Maningo posted Message 1498 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 15:29:25 Subject: Re: UTN Bobby is only black when it might help him... : get a few bucks or a free meal. Bobby Jackson is so white. He always goes to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse for his mofongo. That's all on your dime. He is so ethnic Smith and Wollenski and The Palm have put Pernil on the menu in case he comes in with his Glen's entourage. Look at ELEC disbursements. Swill and Slop and it on all of us who pay taxes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** and Glazer up my butt- posted Message 1499 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 15:30:27 Subject: Re: Yummy Yummy Yummy I gritts in my Tummy : A steady diet of Porterhouse with Bernaise sauce leads to bloating. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stevie weavie posted Message 1500 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 15:32:34 Subject: Revised : Stop your hatred and nasty posts Mr. Glazer. : Steve is a crappie reporter who exposes himself : God help You Steve Glazer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1501 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 16:04:04 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Go get em' posted Message 1502 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 16:24:40 Subject: This is funny MIAMI (Sept. 12) - Telemarketers are now screening their calls, instead of the other way around. The American Teleservices Association isn't laughing at Dave Barry, not after the Pulitzer Prize-winning humor columnist for The Miami Herald listed the group's telephone number in his Aug. 31 column and sparked a flood of phone calls to the group's offices. Barry told his readers to call and ''tell them what you think.'' ''I'm sure they'd love to hear your constitutionally protected views! Be sure to wipe your mouthpiece afterward,'' Barry wrote. Thousands of Barry's readers have done as they were told, forcing the association to stop answering its phones. Callers now hear a recording, which says that because of ''overwhelming positive response to recent media events, we are unable to take your call at this time.'' ''It's difficult not to see some malice in Mr. Barry's intent,'' said Tim Searcy, executive director of the ATA, who said the added calls will be costly to his group because of toll charges and staffing issues. Barry hardly sounded apologetic. ''I feel just terrible, especially if they were eating or anything,'' he said. ''They have phones like the rest of us have phones. Their attitude seems to be if you have a phone, people are allowed to call you.'' ATA officials have said about 2 million of the 6.5 million people working at telemarketing call centers across the nation will lose their jobs because of the rules that established the nationwide ''Do Not Call'' list. Barry also attacked that logic in the same column. ''Of course, you could use pretty much the same reasoning to argue that laws against mugging cause unemployment among muggers,'' he wrote. ''But that would be unfair. Muggers rarely intrude into your home.'' Barry's column is syndicated to about 500 newspapers across the country. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mommy daddy help posted Message 1503 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 16:26:29 Subject: Re: Recall the HCDO let play Predator :Im so scared!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Church pue posted Message 1504 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 16:28:08 Subject: Re: god can't saveSteve Glazer : Stop your hatred and nasty posts Mr. Glazer. : Steve is a bad reporter who exposes himself : God help You Steve Glazer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1505 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 16:38:28 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County posted Message 1506 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 16:40:41 Subject: Fond Memories, funny stories and many tearful farewells Fond memories, funny stories, tearful farewells I first met Peter in a professional capacity about 25 years ago and considered him a good friend and a wonderful person. As a public relations consultant, you worry sometimes about whether a reporter will take the time to understand your side of a story and be fair. Peter was always fair, objective and very honest. He could really work me over during our phone conversations, but his writing was always kind and pure. He would listen to two pundits scream at each other until we turned blue and then write a story both would find fair. He had such a simple but effective way of boiling issues down to their essence. He was a really funny, witty guy too. And he always paid half of the lunch checks, even though my drinks cost more than his chocolate cake. PAUL SWIBINSKI President, Vision Media Inc. Secaucus While I was not fortunate enough to have had the opportunity of reading Peter Weiss's articles over the decades he has been at it, during the past few years Peter was someone who I looked up to as a journalist and as a human being. As a student of journalism, I read his articles as many would read the Bible, paying careful attention to each and every word. He had a gift that, as a writer, I can only hope to one day emulate: He would dissect the most complex political situations and explain them in terms that even an unknowledgeable reader could easily understand. More recently, as an intern for The Jersey Journal, I had the opportunity to get a better look at the man who touched the lives of everyone around him. When people heard that I was working for The Jersey Journal, everyone asked me the same question: "Do you know Peter Weiss?" And I was proud to say, "Yes I do." The vision of Peter sitting behind his desk in jeans, sneakers and a T-shirt, with his feet up and his phone ringing constantly is one I'll never forget. Peter loved his job - he loved every minute of it, and that could be seen in his sense of humor that put a smile on the faces of his co-workers and it could be seen through his many readers who followed his column passionately, from the average Hudson County resident to some of the state's chief politicians. My prayers go out to his wife, Margaret Schmidt, and to his entire family at The Jersey Journal. EDDIE HOLLOWELL When I first started as a reporter at The Jersey Journal, I was a tad intimidated by Peter. He was such an experienced newsman and I was still finding my voice. But then I was given a desk right next to Peter's and little by little we got to know each other. He had a wonderful sense of humor, and I would always get a little tingle when I heard him laugh at one of my jokes. Peter was a consummate newsman, but more than that he was a gentleman with a big heart who loved animals (especially pups). Maybe that's why he always rooted for the underdog. SALLY DEERING Peter was a friend and will be sorely missed by all. He never failed to amaze me with his easygoing manner; nothing ever ruffled him, or so it appeared to me. He helped many people and kept the politicians on their toes, and yet they all had a deep respect for him since he was generally easygoing with his column for most. He could have been a terror, particularly in Hudson County, where false rumors fly like mosquitoes on a summer night. Peter tried to be as accurate as he could be, and in his own inimitable manner he would pop up with a story that was way out in left field - and yet many of the wildest stories had a touch of truth and accuracy to them. Peter's column was always the first thing I read in The Jersey Journal, and I looked forward to it three times a week. I really missed the column when Peter took a short vacation, which was not very often. I read his column faithfully years before I ever got involved with politics, and perhaps he is the one that drew me into the political arena. I will truly miss Peter, but he will continue to watch over the political doings in Hudson County and the state - clearly from a better vantage spot than any of us. I had many great conversations with Peter, and he was one of the most interesting individuals I've ever met. The Jersey Journal was fortunate to have him for so long, and he will not be easily replaced. Peter, may you have an easy journey, which you certainly deserve. BARRY J. DUGAN Freeholder vice chairman I was stunned to read of the passing of Peter Weiss. My heart goes out to the Weiss family. Since February, I've been activated with the Army. Every day I would link to The Jersey Journal Web site and check Mr. Weiss's site, and he kept me in tune with Hudson County politics, and we know politics. To the Weiss family and Jersey Journal family, you're in my prayers. WILL SHIRDEN I called him "Pete-see" because he was really like a big brother to me and the other interns in the newsroom back in the early '80s. In between swapping Howard Stern stories - we were both fans, to the disgust of our co-workers - Peter is responsible for getting me a full-time reporting job at The Jersey Journal and for helping me land my first two PR jobs. One day, Peter took a break from that two-finger twist he did on the typewriter and told me he wanted to show me something in the trunk of his car. I followed him, teasing that I just knew he had the body of some politician stuffed inside his tin can. Peter popped the trunk to reveal a couple of oil paintings. "My father painted them, but I don't know what to do with them," he said. "Take one." I picked out a canvas of red tulips in a green vase. Years later, we would talk on the phone or share a lunch once in a great while, and I'd remind Peter that I still had his dad's painting hanging in my house. Peter's response would always be the same. "I didn't know what to do with them," he'd say. We both knew that wasn't true. Peter had that rare gift of making people's lives matter to the rest of us. He used words to paint his own lasting portraits, filled with humor and humanity. I'll miss Peter's stroke of genius. ANN SPINA SPERLING Readers say good-bye to Peter Weiss Saturday, September 13, 2003 I sat at the computer tonight thinking about Peter and trying to grab hold of emotions and fleeting thoughts and turn them into coherent sentences summing up a friendship. It wasn't easy, not because there aren't many memories, but because of the great void that's opened that mere words can't really fill in any satisfying way, no matter how well written or true. How do you even begin to undertake the calculus of loss in Peter's case? Peter was one of those remarkable people whose presence was so natural and unassuming you took it for granted. You never understand in advance how important people like he are to you. Yet upon first word of his death, I knew with a cold, intuitive certainty that the world was a place that was now less friendly, much less full, than before. I worked with Peter closely for 10 years - we started at The Journal a week apart - and we became more than good friends, intricately and intimately involved in each other's lives for a time. He came to dinner, wedged himself into a corner of the kitchen, was surrounded by my dogs. He loved those dogs as much as I did, if not more. And all the time during our friendship I watched him work and saw his simple approach to his craft: to tell the truth as he saw it and enjoy himself while doing it. He not only knew but understood that great journalistic principle, to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable. I remember him sitting late into the evening at a manual typewriter in the old city room filled with our ancient equipment, chewing on his tongue as he worked away at his column, bantering with the night staff, fielding telephone calls, smiling, laughing, enjoying himself, and most importantly, sure of himself. I can't say I wasn't jealous of him then. He told me once he had only one requirement for a job: It must not require that he wear a tie. Life was that simple for him. He was gracious, with a generous spirit, and urged me to leave The Journal to take a job as mayoral press secretary that he had turned down. And having done that, he often used his wickedly sharp pen to appropriately reduce the size of my burgeoning ego or point out my foolishness when I too easily played the part of righteous apologist. It hurt, not because he was my friend, but because I knew he was right. I often wonder what would have happened if I hadn't taken that job. TOM GOLODIK While some news programs try to portray themselves as fair and balanced, Peter never had to promote himself in that regard. His honesty and neutrality were unquestioned, his humor and witty sarcasm second to none, and his journalistic integrity nearly legendary. He simply told us what was going on and did so truthfully. He served Hudson County residents more honorably than many elected officials. DAN AMICO Former Town Clerk Secaucus Peter Weiss played such an important role in each of our lives here in Hudson County. He was the political watchdog, ensuring that our politicians and community leaders lived up to their commitments. He made certain if you were in politics that you had a conscience. Revered for his honesty, good humor and integrity, Peter Weiss can never be replaced. But we can appreciate the incredible work of his life as a public servant in journalism. MICHAEL KORMAN Hoboken I first met Peter over 25 years ago when I was freshman at Jersey City State College. English grammar was my worst subject, and Peter help me with composition papers. My parents' restaurant - two blocks north of Jersey City Municipal Hall next to the Grove Street PATH Station, called the Sunset, now the Hard Grove Cafe - was where I met other reporters from The Jersey Journal and the Hudson Dispatch. Reporters like Earl Morgan, Ronald Leir, Robert Larkins, Richard Drabik and the late Jack Hasbrouck. It was Peter who inspired me to write and eventually convinced me to try out for the college newspaper, the Gothic Times. I eventually ended up being the news editor in my senior year. Peter would always give me pointers. Through the years, I became politically involved, in Jersey City and later in Bayonne. I would always give Peter leads to stories as well as gossip in which he would keep everything in confidence, if I told him to do so. We both loved baseball and the New York Mets. We would not only talk of Hudson County politics, but of all sort of sports and other subjects. I will truly miss him as I know all the readers of this newspaper will. But the part I will always miss is when he would take shots at me when it came to promotions between me and my brother George. For you see, I am the eldest and my brother would always win when wewould get promoted in rank, first at the Hudson County jail, and I would later get promoted at the Sheriff's Office. Peter would say, "I told you your brother was smarter." LT. CHRISTOS GENES Hudson County Sheriff's Office Peter Weiss was always a challenge, and he knew Hudson County politics. We did not always agree, but he understood what local politics was all about. Peter tried to present a fair and unbiased point of view. JOSEPH V. DORIA JR. Bayonne mayor, State Assemblyman We will miss Peter Weiss. He treated community activists with the same respect as elected officials. He promptly returned our phone calls and when he was in charge printed our "letters to the editor" without prejudice. Weiss's "Political Whirl" column was must-reading, especially since he tapped into the human spirit. He also knew the issues and history of Hudson County as few do. We will remember him as a fair, factual and entertaining reporter who will be dearly missed. Our condolences to Margaret Schmidt and both their families. YVONNE BALCER and MIA SCANGA Jersey City It was 1998. I can't recall the month exactly, but I remember it was around Christmas time. As I walked by table F8 along the front window of Top Notch Restaurant in Montclair one busy Saturday night, I thought I caught a glimpse of Jersey Journal columnist Peter Weiss. A senior majoring in English with hopes of one day breaking a juicy story for a daily, I was bursting with excitement. Imagine the prospects - a job offer, a mentor, a helping hand for a kid from Union City working two jobs and carrying a full-time load at school. Peter could have brushed me off as I approached the table and introduced myself, not as their waiter but as a young wannabe reporter interrupting his dinner party. But Peter would never have done that. Smiling without the slightest hint of presumption, he extended his hand in friendship, slipped a few jokes about how little reporters make, and made comments like, "Why would you want to do this to yourself?" He sparked a flurry of reporter jokes at a table loaded with journalist fortunate enough to have Peter call them friends. More than an hour later, I felt a tap on my shoulder, a tap I had hoped would be the unassuming guy in the corduroy blazer and jeans at table F8. "You know, if you're serious about working for a paper, you should give this person a call," he said, holding out one of his business cards with the name of the paper's managing editor scribbled on the back. I later learned that the editor, Margaret Schmidt, was his wife. Despite my lack of experience, Peter's gesture and open mind, and Margaret's willingness to bet on her husband's hunches, gave me my start in a business I love. A few months after that encounter, I was hired as the Hispanic affairs reporter and eventually covered Jersey City City Hall and wrote a column for a paper I grew up reading. At 23, I was sitting a dozen or so feet away from the great Peter Weiss - listening, laughing at his approach - and learning about journalism and life from a guy who didn't know how to say no, unless you were a politician. People like Peter don't just offer you a smile, handshake and an empty promise. They deliver honesty packaged in hope, laced with humor. I thanked him profusely that night amid the clanging silverware and chatter. Later in the somehow reliable elevator of that old building on Journal Square, I would thank him a couple of times after that. When I learned of his death and even now, days later, I feel like I never thanked him enough, not just for the opportunity but for the countless hours I spent eavesdropping on his conversations, learning how the job of journalism should be done. Peter, you taught me more than any book ever could, gave me a hand when I needed one and were never too busy to crack a joke or listen to me patiently while I tried to weasel some advice from you. I can't thank you enough. I hope there's plenty of Snapple and cream soda wherever you are. ALBERTO CANAL Peter Weiss may have been short in stature but was definitely tall in his profession. Whenever Peter's column appeared, it was the first item I would read in The Jersey Journal. He exposed Hudson County politics in a very special way that one could know the inside story. His presence will be missed in future years. ALLAN ROY BARDACK Peter Weiss was an old-fashioned reporter whose word was gold, and his readers and everyone he interacted with knew it. He was extremely well-networked to the political figures in Hudson County and throughout New Jersey. Peter had a smile and a wry sense of humor that could melt the heart of even the most hardened of politicians. Such inside access allowed him to give even more thoughtful analysis to his readers, who also very much enjoyed his great writing style. Peter was a warm, funny and genuinely kind human being who fought every day to bring the truth about the innermost workings of government to all his readers. I will miss him and his work, as will many others. U.S. REP. STEVE ROTHMAN D-Fair Lawn For more than 20 years, Peter and I talked about sports. Peter had the same razor-sharp wit and great knowledge when he talked about sports as he did when he talked about politics. We talked about all of it, especially the NFL playoffs, Super Bowls and the NCAA. I'm sorely going to miss him. My heart goes out to Margaret and everyone in the newsroom. MARTY MURPHY Jersey City Back in the '70s, former Councilman Thomas McGovern never missed Peter Weiss's column. He always liked the way he would word and say things about anyone in politics, bad or good. I remember he always had a good word for my husband, Tom, and I always treasured it. We both sat together reading his column. I will miss it very much. HELEN McGOVERN Jersey City Peter Weiss took me under his strong and generous wing when I was a very young, very naive, very ambitious young reporter working summers during college at The Jersey Journal. Peter at the time was already one of the most respected reporters on the paper. He didn't have to pay attention to this rather awkward, unsophisticated girl from St. Peter's College. Whenever I would get a bylined story, Peter would pass by my desk and say, "Good job, kid." Peter also took it upon himself to advance my social and cultural growth. He introduced me to Mexican food at a restaurant in Greenwich Village, and to Rattner's Jewish Deli where I ate my first knish. Then, in what appeared to be the height of sophistication at the time, he invited me to go with him to a Phil Ochs concert in a small cafe in the Village. When I look back at all the people who mentored me personally and professionally in my early career, Peter Weiss is the gentle little giant of kindness I will always hold in a special place in my heart. Praise him. JUDY VALENTE Chicago I was deeply saddened to learn of the passing of Peter Weiss. My deep-felt sympathy goes out to his wife, Margaret. I enjoyed our many conversations over the years, and while we did not always agree, I had a great deal of respect for Pete. No doubt, he will be missed. DENNIS P. COLLINS Former Bayonne mayor On my way to Pittsburgh on Wednesday I stopped in Jersey City for lunch and picked up a copy of The Jersey Journal. I was both shocked and saddened to read that Peter Weiss had passed away. Peter is a prominent fixture in my memories of Jersey City, where I lived for a year beginning in October 2001, and of The Jersey Journal, where with his help, I interned for several months. I started out as a stringer for The Jersey Journal, and he was the person I called every Monday and Friday to go over story ideas. Being from Los Angeles, I sometimes had trouble understanding him through his Jersey accent, but he seemed to like the stories I turned up. I had arrived in Jersey City without a job or any job prospects, and when Peter found out I was having a hard time he said he'd ask Margaret whether any internships were available. I started two days later as an obituary intern. I was then not only able to make ends meet, I also began building a career. I'm grateful to Peter because of it. When I applied for a two-year program with the Tribune Co., Peter gave me a glowing recommendation and would assure me that I'd get the job, which I did. HILDA M. MUNOZ Pete was the biggest newsroom star when I worked for The Jersey Journal as a reporter in the late 1980s, but he always had time to counsel and nurture young reporters trying to make a living in journalism. I was one of them. I was green, eager and had the thickest Chilean accent - having arrived in the United States just years earlier - and Pete always treated me with a combination of amusement and respect. It didn't matter to him that I was the "copy girl" who got people's food, someone who would cling to his every word on the long nights we used to spend on the city desk in Jersey City. For my part, I watched and learned from him, and from another editor, John Watson, who is no longer there. Pete lived in the newsroom. He used to come and go. At all hours. The ultimate political insider, he knew his beat had no set deadlines. What a role model for me! And Pete would make the night go quickly; he'd sing the song "Nobody knows the troubles I've seen" in deep baritone. And he would smile, because he was a happy guy. He was a lucky guy. Regular people, politicians and other journalists admired him. You knew this guy just loved his job. To see him work the phones and to deal one on one with politicos - to see him composing at the manual typewriters, pressing key by key - he was the best journalism mentor I ever had. I credit him with helping me become the journalist I am today. He was the biggest star, yet he was so humble. I just wish Pete were here today to tell him what a great contribution he made to my life. I love you, Pete, and I will never forget you. Thanks. BLANCA MONICA QUINTANILLA Editor at Newsday North Bergen To say that Peter Weiss was unique is to understate the legacy that he left behind. Pete Weiss was exceptional. Pete had a knack for knowing how to draw the line between plying his trade as a political columnist and being a friend. He did so with a class and style that is hard to imagine anyone else being able to duplicate. In addition to writing his must-read columns, Peter also covered Hudson County government. I had come to treasure our routine conversations about politics and life while attending the caucus and meetings of the freeholder board. As time went by, these conversations gravitated more toward life and less and less about politics. On those occasions when Peter plied his trade with respect to me - I have learned volumes. Mainly, not to take or see things as seriously as we all sometimes do. Life goes on. His columns helped me to become known and, along with others, gave me that polite kick in the pants when straying from my established political or governmental beliefs. Peter had mastered journalistic fairness and dispensed it like blind justice. He had a gift for enabling many of the subjects of his columns to see the forest for the trees. Like countless others, I will miss this quaint, humble giant of a man. I will miss his friendship, benevolence and keen wit. I will miss Pete's special charm to lighten things up when we all take ourselves too seriously. But what I think I, along with countless others, will especially miss about Peter was the care and time he took in pointing out to us all the forest for the trees. LOUIS M. MANZO My memories of Pete: He walked slow, he talked slow. You'd asked him a question, he answered it to the point without elaboration. He knew his politics, yet he didn't flaunt it. He didn't try to impress you with his knowledge, but he was a walking book of facts. I can still picture him, even after 12 years in retirement, with his feet up on the desk and a phone glued to his ear. A great loss to The Jersey Journal, he'll be missed. ALBERT CICETTI ***************** End Of Article ****************** and Glazer up my u no what posted Message 1507 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 17:14:44 Subject: Re: Yummy Yummy Yummy I gritts in my Tummy : A steady diet of Porterhouse with Bernaise sauce leads to bloating. : : get a few bucks or a free meal. Bobby Jackson is so white. He always goes to Ruth's Chris Steakhouse for his mofongo. That's all on your dime. He is so ethnic Smith and Wollenski and The Palm have put Pernil on the menu in case he comes in with his Glenns entourage. Look at ELEC disbursements. Swill and Slop and it on all of us who pay taxes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 1508 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 21:54:08 Subject: Re: TODAY ON THIS DAY.... To whoever placed my post on this forum, Thank you. As I have very seldom come here, it is nice to know that you thought enough of it to place it here. There's a mistake or two but it is the thought that counts. Once again, Thank you. BJ : On this day, I lost no one I knew. But I lost everyone I knew. These people were me, they were you, they were us. : As for those of you who say "Enough already", you are exactly the reason why there are those in the world who think America is weak. Your "yeah, yeah, yeah, well it's over so what, get over it attitude" is a sad commentary. You are either very cold & callous or in deeper pain than those of us who verbalize it. In either case, I well say a prayer for you too. : U nited : S trong : A merican : MAY GOD CONTINUE TO SHED HIS GRACE ON US. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gary Coleman posted Message 1509 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 23:31:07 Subject: Gary Coleman hired as political consultant to HCDO Gary Coleman a candidate for govenor of California has signed a deal to consult the HCDO on campaign efforts. The HCDO said that Bozo the Clown was busy in Trenton. After spending 4 million to defeat Glenn Cunningham the HCDO lost and was defeated itself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ruth Chris posted Message 1510 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 23:34:46 Subject: Ruth Chris hired as political consultant by the HCDO Ruth Chris the founder of the famous steakhouse has accepted the appointment of the HCDO as political consultant. The HCDO said Ronald McDonald was already taken by Trenton. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO Official Clown posted Message 1511 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 23:38:06 Subject: HCDO has decided to go into the Circus The HCDO has decided that after its inability to field a candidate no matter how much money they spend they will now attempt to get as many clowns into a car as possible. The car will be provided by the Federal Government and leave Jersey City for Allenwood shortly. The big shoes and rubber noses are not required considering most of the HCDO look like clowns without them. Honk Honk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The greatest show on earth posted Message 1512 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 23:40:24 Subject: HCDO preforms without a net high above the big top The juggling accountants and the high wire act of political corruption preformed for millions even billions over the last 50 years has come to and end. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pulitzer posted Message 1513 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 23:45:24 Subject: The Pulitzer Prize Committee has renamed the award The Pulitzer Prize Committee has renamed the award to the Glazer award in honor of the famous journalist for reporting the lies and corruption of the HCDO and Congressman ?. Since Glazer will not be recognized for this brave act the Pulitzer Prize Committee feels that the award should be renamed. Of course the majority of political hacks and those they served will be forever in our memories and hearts all except the people they helped to steal from. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BUSTED BIG TIME HUH! posted Message 1514 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2003 at 23:49:47 Subject: LQQK BELOW GLAZER IS AT IT AGAIN! Lets go to the tape! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Old Friend posted Message 1515 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:03:37 Subject: Re: DID YA HEAR THE ONE ABOUT "SOBBIN' BOB" : BOB MENENDEZ "SOBBING" OVER THE NEWS OF PETEY WEISS' DEATH. THIS IS THE SAME GUY WHO WOULD NOT BURY HIS OWN FATHER, DARIUS MENENDEZ. MUSTO PAID FOR THE FUNERAL OF MENENDEZ' FATHER. THE SAME GUY "SOBS" FOR PETE WEISS. SURE HE DID. Anthony, When is enough enough.Your site is a cesspool of hate, venom and libel. When do you pull the cord on this human waste. What may have been a good idea has gone awry. This whole bathroom wall of a message board reflects on YOU and Your character and will never be forgotten. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT Glazer Dufus posted Message 1516 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:13:06 Subject: Re: LQQK BELOW GLAZER IS AT IT AGAIN! So where is Glazer in any of this he did not post I did you idiot. How about you realize something you are part of the evil empire and have contributed to it like the Jersey Journal and other hack journalist organizations. Why you are allowed to breath is beyond me God must have a sense of humor. : Lets go to the tape! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ALL OF THE PEOPLE posted Message 1517 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:17:20 Subject: THE CLOWNS OF HUDSON COUNTY BOZO HAS NOTHING ON THE ELECTORATE OF HUDSON COUNTY. THEY GET THE RUBBBER NOSE AND PUT ON THE BIG SHOES EVERY DAY BUT DO NOT KNOW IT SINCE THE HEAD OF THE CIRCUS HAS NEVER TOLD THEM IT IS A CIRCUS. THE HCDO IS THE RING MASTER AND ALSO THE GUY THAT BITES THE HEADS OFF OF CHICKENS FOR A PINT OF WHISKEY. YOU THE POOR STUPID IDIOT OF HUDSON COUNTY GET WHAT YOU ASKED FOR PRETENDING TO BE FREE. YOU ARE CLOWNS ONLY FOOLS FOR THE CORRUPT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT GLAZER posted Message 1518 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:19:02 Subject: SQUIRT HEAD THINK A LITTLE BETWEEN YOUR NEXT PIPE HIT CRACK HEAD. : Lets go to the tape! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO CRACK WHQRE NOT GLAZER posted Message 1519 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:22:25 Subject: HCDO REWARDS CRIME AND DRUGS SINCE THE HCDO HAS TAKEN AND AIDED THE USE AND ABUSE OF DRUGS VIA DON SCARINCI HELPING IMPORTERS AND DISTRIBUTORS TO LAUNDER FUNDS THE HCDO IS A DRUG DEALER. WHO KNOWS MAYBE THE BELOVED CONGRESSMAN HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT GLAZER AGAIN posted Message 1520 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:24:57 Subject: SEPERATE JERSEY CITY FROM HUDSON COUNTY NOT GLAZER NEVER WILL BE YOU THINK THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON THAT HATES CORRUPTION CRIME AND RACISM. HCDO THE RACIST ORGANIZATION NEEDS TO BE ISOLATED VIA A SEPERATE COUNTY BEING FORMED BY JERSEY CITY ALLOWING THE RESIDENCES TO BE FREE OF THE THE CORRUPTION OF THE HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT GLAZER posted Message 1521 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:26:51 Subject: HCDO=RACISM=CORRUPTION=MENENDEZ OUR BELOVED CONGRESSMAN SHOULD BE RECALLED AND HIS SEAT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO SOMEONE WHO CAN SERVE THE PUBLIC AND NOT COST A FORTUNE EATING STEAK. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Me posted Message 1522 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:29:01 Subject: Re: LQQK BELOW GLAZER IS AT IT AGAIN! Well, I think you need to take some happy pills Mr. Crummpy! Did you wake up on the wrong side of the stall? Now go to you happy place and be a good little boy or girl. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT GLAZER posted Message 1523 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:29:16 Subject: SO WHY IN THE WORLD IS MCGREEVEY STILL IN OFFICE THROW THE GOVENOR OUT OF OFFICE FREE THE STATE FROM THE CRIME OF CORRUPTION. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU WONDERED WHERE ALL THOSE TAX DOLLARS GO? HOW CAN THE LONGHSHOREMAN AFFORD TO SEND A GOVENOR ON A VACATION? WHAT ARE MCGREEVEY'S TIES TO THE LONGSHOREMEN? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now boys and girls.. posted Message 1524 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:29:49 Subject: Re: THE CLOWNS OF HUDSON COUNTY Go to your happy place! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Me posted Message 1525 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:30:31 Subject: Re: SO WHY IN THE WORLD IS MCGREEVEY STILL IN OFFICE Can't argue on that one! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT GLAZER posted Message 1526 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:31:00 Subject: ROGER CHUGH BUY A GOVENOR I HAVE ONE BUY A GOVENOR EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE ONE I DO AND I LOVE IT THEY GET YOU BREAKFAST IN BED CLEAN THE KITCHEN AND WASH MY SHIRTS. EVERYONE SHOULD OWN A GOVENOR. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Boring posted Message 1527 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:31:11 Subject: Re: HCDO=RACISM=CORRUPTION=MENENDEZ Man this is getting old! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT GLAZER posted Message 1528 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:32:28 Subject: NOT GLAZER HAS OFFICIALLY DECLARED TODAY GLAZER DAY AS A WAY OF SHOWING OUR LOVE FOR A REAL JOURNALIST NOT SOME HACK FROM THE JERSEY JOURNAL. ***************** End Of Article ****************** me posted Message 1529 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:32:56 Subject: Re: SEPERATE JERSEY CITY FROM HUDSON COUNTY So if you hate it move ....or why don't you run for office and change the world. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ME posted Message 1530 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:33:33 Subject: Re: NOT GLAZER HAS OFFICIALLY DECLARED TODAY BARF! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT BORING posted Message 1531 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:34:13 Subject: Re: HCDO=RACISM=CORRUPTION=MENENDEZ WHEN THIS GETS OLD IS WHEN IT STOPS ONCE AND FOR ALL. RACISM EVEN THE KIND THE HCDO IS DOING IS NEVER OLD. JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE NICE PEOPLE DOES NOT MEAN THEY DO NOT STEAL AND TARGET THE BLACK WARD F. : Man this is getting old! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ME posted Message 1532 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:34:29 Subject: Re: ROGER CHUGH BUY A GOVENOR I HAVE ONE : BUY A GOVENOR EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE ONE I DO AND I LOVE IT THEY GET YOU BREAKFAST IN BED CLEAN THE KITCHEN AND WASH MY SHIRTS. EVERYONE SHOULD OWN A GOVENOR. Same as Bobby and Glen..Right? ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT GLAZER posted Message 1533 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:35:46 Subject: Re: SEPERATE JERSEY CITY FROM HUDSON COUNTY IF YOU PAY FOR THE BULLET PROOF VEST I WILL UNTIL THEN LAY LOW THE HCDO WILL NOT GO DOWN WITHOUT TAKING A FEW GOOD PEOPLE WITH THEM. : So if you hate it move ....or why don't you run for office and change the world. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT GLAZER posted Message 1534 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:36:45 Subject: Re: THE CLOWNS OF HUDSON COUNTY SO THIS IS A BOZO NO NO : Go to your happy place! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Me posted Message 1535 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:38:08 Subject: Re: HCDO=RACISM=CORRUPTION=MENENDEZ : WHEN THIS GETS OLD IS WHEN IT STOPS ONCE AND FOR ALL. RACISM EVEN THE KIND THE HCDO IS DOING IS NEVER OLD. JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE NICE PEOPLE DOES NOT MEAN THEY DO NOT STEAL AND TARGET THE BLACK WARD F. : : Man this is getting old! Bull crap the racism, the stealing, the problems in ward f is Bobby Jackson and company.Rev. Al Joe Cardwell and the newbie Santiago. ***************** End Of Article ****************** me posted Message 1536 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:38:57 Subject: Re: THE CLOWNS OF HUDSON COUNTY Yes in deedie ***************** End Of Article ****************** Me posted Message 1537 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:40:10 Subject: Re: SEPERATE JERSEY CITY FROM HUDSON COUNTY Where do I send the check? ***************** End Of Article ****************** the persons got a point posted Message 1538 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:41:44 Subject: Re: DID YA HEAR THE ONE ABOUT "SOBBIN' BOB" Well Anthony? ***************** End Of Article ****************** me posted Message 1539 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:44:35 Subject: Re: HCDO REWARDS CRIME AND DRUGS You so need help! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT GLAZER posted Message 1540 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:50:07 Subject: DO YOU MEAN THE MAYOR AND THE OWNER OF UTN? YES OF COURSE YOU DO BUT THAT IS NOT THE SAME SITUATION BOTH OF THEM HAS SUFFERED BECAUSE OF THEIR STRUGGLE TO BRING REPRESENTATION TO WARD F AND JERSEY CITY IN GENERAL SINCE THE HCDO SEES JERSEY CITY AS A CASH REGISTER. NOW THE OWNER OF THE UTN HAS HAD HIS LIFE THREATENED AND IF HE WHERE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE CORRUPTION HE COULD HAVE EASILY MADE A BETTER INVESTMENT HE COULD HAVE SIMPLY PAID OFF SCARINCI BUT THEY DID NOT. SO IF YOU OBJECT TO SCARINCI AND MENENDEZ NOT RECIEVING GRAFT THEN I SEE YOUR POINT, BUT THE UTN AND ITS OWNER HAVE LAID THEIR MONEY DOWN FOR THE TRUTH AND NO CORRUPTION THE HCDO HAS MADE THEIR BETS ELSEWHERE. I THINK THE FEDS WILL BE CALLING THE HCDOS MARKERS IN SHORTLY THEY PLAYED A DIRTY GAME AND LOST THANK GOD. : : BUY A GOVENOR EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE ONE I DO AND I LOVE IT THEY GET YOU BREAKFAST IN BED CLEAN THE KITCHEN AND WASH MY SHIRTS. EVERYONE SHOULD OWN A GOVENOR. : Same as Bobby and Glen..Right? ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT GLAZER posted Message 1541 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:52:28 Subject: CHECKS IN THE MAIL ANOTHER LIE BEET ME WHIP ME MAKE ME WRITE BAD CHECKS OR RUN FOR OFFICE. I SHOULD MENTION I DID RUN FOR OFFICE ONCE A LONG TIME AGO. : Where do I send the check? ***************** End Of Article ****************** me posted Message 1542 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:58:18 Subject: Re: DO YOU MEAN THE MAYOR AND THE OWNER OF UTN? Like I said Same as Bobby Jackson..no diff. The apples don't fall far from the tree! And Bobby having his LIFE THREATENED is he using that line again...just like the 80's ***************** End Of Article ****************** me posted Message 1543 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 09:59:33 Subject: Re: CHECKS IN THE MAIL ANOTHER LIE My checks are never bad...so did you win? I commend you for taking a stand. : : : Where do I send the check? ***************** End Of Article ****************** AK Bar al Aych Seedio posted Message 1544 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 10:38:20 Subject: DEATH TO THE INFIDEL-DRIVE THEM INTO THE SEA Bob is good. Bob is Great. Death to the Infidel. All praise be to Bob Defender of The Faithful. Blessed in paradise are the martyrs who give their lives to the Great Cause. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1545 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 11:17:45 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Worth repeating posted Message 1546 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 15:22:04 Subject: Re: DO YOU MEAN THE MAYOR AND THE OWNER OF UTN? You post would be wonderful if it did not contain one major flaw ….Bobby Jackson! People do not dislike Mr. Jackson for his ethnic background; we dislike him because he is dishonest. If Mr. Jackson were a big yellow bird from a street named Sesame, we would still feel the same way. • He is dishonest. • He was found guilty of civil rights violations against fellow African-Americans • He extorts from the waterfront corporations with his many “Lobbyist firms” • However, most importantly he does nothing to better his own community • What kind of role model is he to the children of Jersey City, can you imagine what the future holds if they all followed his example. Scary huh? I would love to know the wonderful things he has done for his community. Tell me and maybe just maybe you can change my views until then my opinion stays as is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** And that is Mr. Dufus to you posted Message 1547 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 15:55:16 Subject: Re: LQQK BELOW GLAZER IS AT IT AGAIN! DUFUS?...how old are you! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Old Friend posted Message 1548 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 18:32:27 Subject: Enough Is Enough Anthony, When is enough enough.Your site is a cesspool of hate, venom and libel. When do you pull the cord on this human waste. What may have been a good idea has gone awry. This whole bathroom wall of a message board reflects on YOU and Your character and will never be forgotten. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1549 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 19:04:50 Subject: Re: Enough Is Enough Jeepers, I know exactly what you mean. I expected a Hudson County Message Board to attract a bunch of tea sippers with their pinkies up on the air! : Anthony, When is enough enough.Your site is a cesspool of hate, venom and libel. When do you pull the cord on this human waste. What may have been a good idea has gone awry. This whole bathroom wall of a message board reflects on YOU and Your character and will never be forgotten. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT Glazer posted Message 1550 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 19:24:11 Subject: Re: Enough Is Enough I think that honest discussions on how to throw the bums out of office is polite. But to suggest Anthony is anything other than a gentleman is crazy. This is the best board on the web and honest talk about what to do with the crooks should be welcomed unless your a crook. : Jeepers, I know exactly what you mean. I expected a Hudson County Message Board to attract a bunch of tea sippers with their pinkies up on the air! : : Anthony, When is enough enough.Your site is a cesspool of hate, venom and libel. When do you pull the cord on this human waste. What may have been a good idea has gone awry. This whole bathroom wall of a message board reflects on YOU and Your character and will never be forgotten. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT GLAZER posted Message 1551 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 19:25:55 Subject: I DECLARE MONDAY AS ANTHONY APPRECIATION DAY HOORRAY FOR ANTHONY THE PROVIDER OF THE MEDIUM OF TRUTH. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT GLAZER posted Message 1552 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 19:27:10 Subject: ANTHONY SHOULD HAVE A FAN CLUB SINCE HIS SITE IS GREAT ANTHONY WE ALL LOVE YOU EVEN IF WE DO NOT KNOW YOU DIRECTLY. PEACE AND LOVE ANTHONY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FELCHING GERBILS posted Message 1553 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 19:38:42 Subject: I SUPPORT THE HCDO AS A FREQUENTLY FELCHED GERBIL I SUPPORT THE HCDO ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1554 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 19:58:03 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Crabtree posted Message 1555 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 21:54:27 Subject: Can't spell SEPARATE again. I'm going to have to write a letter about you to your parents. Spanky, Alfalfa and Buckwheat are getting letters as well. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1556 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 22:03:42 Subject: Oh lighten up !! Anthony is what he is. A struggling entrepreneur wading through the cesspool that is Jersey City. Forgive him. Being a Schundler sycophant is a difficult cross to bear. And now Anthony has taken up a new burden. Call it the White Man's Burden if you dare. He has taken Glenn Cunningham and the UTN on his broad back to bring them to freedom and the promised land. A task similar in nature to Hercules cleaning out the stables. Can we all sing a chorus of WE SHALL OVERCOME. HALLELUJAH !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ME posted Message 1557 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 22:18:15 Subject: Re: Oh lighten up !! Knowing who Chakotay is...I do not believe this is "Chakotay" posting. It is someone trying to cause trouble...maybe they want you to believe that their "Quest" is justified. But the truth little man is it is not! ***************** End Of Article ****************** rotflmmfao posted Message 1558 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2003 at 22:25:26 Subject: rotflmmfao : Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Happy Web Browser posted Message 1559 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 05:23:09 Subject: I enjoy this forum - Thank You Webmaster I truly enjoy this forum. Thank You Anthony - Just wanted to let you know that you are appreciated. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BARNEY posted Message 1560 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 08:18:56 Subject: Re: I enjoy this forum - Thank You Webmaster I love you; You love me; we a happy Family..... ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1561 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 08:53:04 Subject: Re: Oh lighten up !! The theme of racial slurs and the call for racial solidarity (circling-the-wagons) present in this post now reappear again and again in our little Hudson County politics fugue. Never before have we seen this canker (overtly, at any rate) in mainstream politics in the Northeast. Even Wallace in 1968, campaigned on a platform of Law and Order, not Race. And these spores of hatred aren't coming from Archie Bunker in some blue collar bar. Communication professionals are the source. What I want to know is how far do they want the fungus to spread? Just to the point of keeping most of the Hudson County Cities under County Hegemony? Are they willing to accept a few bystanders roughed up for the cause? How many riots will be within allowable limits? How about a Klan march and rally? Also, here we find the second (that I've seen) reference to government as a stable. All used to strive to always describe Public Service as a noble calling. We now see a political group calling Public Service a collection of beasts of burden. : Anthony is what he is. A struggling entrepreneur wading through the cesspool that is Jersey City. Forgive him. Being a Schundler sycophant is a difficult cross to bear. : And now Anthony has taken up a new burden. Call it the White Man's Burden if you dare. He has taken Glenn Cunningham and the UTN on his broad back to bring them to freedom and the promised land. A task similar in nature to Hercules cleaning out the stables. : Can we all sing a chorus of WE SHALL OVERCOME. HALLELUJAH !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1562 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 08:55:06 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BARNEY posted Message 1563 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 10:08:01 Subject: Re: I enjoy this forum - Thank You Webmaster I LOVE YOU; YOU LOVE ME; WE THIS HAPPY FAMILY; WITH A GREAT BIG HUG AND A KISS FROM ME TO YOU....WON'T YOU SAY YOU LOVE ME TOO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer posted Message 1564 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 10:22:59 Subject: Freedom of Speech Anthony Olszzewski courageously provides a valuable service at no cost open to all, guaranteeing expression of wildly divergent opinion, no matter how far from the so-called mainstream. This is a democratic ideal, this is what we as a nation are willing to go to war to defend. With the few exceptions of adult content, commercial promotion of other enterprises (free advertising=theft of services.) and gratuitous ethnic and racial slurs, anyone can say anything they like and publicly air their views. Those opinions, sometimes unpopular would find no outlet if not for GETNj.COM You do not have to endorse, support, concur with or even like those views. But if you support the democratic ideal, you are obligated to grant the holder of those opinions the same right to their views as you would expect for your own. You don't have to like it. You MUST respect it. Anthony Olzewski deserves our gratitude for providing this forum regardless your own politics. Steven Glazer ***************** End Of Article ****************** I feel the earth move.... posted Message 1565 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 10:28:27 Subject: Re: Freedom of Speech You move us Glazer...sniff, sniff! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joe Pufter posted Message 1566 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 11:18:34 Subject: Keep an eye on BUGS, mother nature will appreciate it! Just check them out on your own, BUGS.OB is worth the effort! http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=bugs.ob www.bugsatwork.com http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=sswm.ob Take care ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1567 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 12:18:34 Subject: THANK YOU ANTHONY !!! For providing a forum where a sleazy rumor-monger like Glazer can spread his lies and innuendoes. The democratic ideal my a$$. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO VICTORY CELEBRATION posted Message 1568 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 12:50:08 Subject: FELCHING PRIMARY Actual Article from the LA Times - Thanks Ed Toner California people are strange! "In retrospect, lighting the match was my big mistake. But I was only trying to retrieve the gerbil," Eric Tomaszewski told bemused doctors in the Severe Burns Unit of Salt Lake City Hospital. Tomaszewski and his homosexual partner, Andrew "Kiki" Farnum, had been admitted for emergency treatment after a felching session had gone seriously wrong. "I pushed a cardboard tube up his rectum and slipped Raggot, our gerbil, in," he explained. "As usual, Kiki shouted out "Armageddon", my cue that he'd had enough. I tried to retrieve Raggot but he wouldn't come out again, so I peered into the tube and struck a match, thinking the light might attract him." At a hushed press conference a hospital spokesperson described what happened next. "The match ignited a pocket of intestinal gas and a flame shot out the tubing, igniting Mr. Tomaszewski's hair and severely burning his face. It also set fire to the gerbil's fur and whiskers which in turn, ignited a larger pocket of gas further up the intestine propelling the rodent out like a cannonball." Tomaszewski suffered second degree burns and a broken nose from the impact of the gerbil, while Farnum suffered first and second degree burns to his anus and lower intestinal tract. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mickey Mouse posted Message 1569 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 13:48:26 Subject: Re: FELCHING PRIMARY You boys at UTN central really do have a "thing" for anal, must be that dick in your a$$ ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1570 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 15:19:16 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 1571 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 16:57:40 Subject: Tonites show. Hudson County awards 2 contracts totaling 18m both seem shaky at best, Judge rules in favor of the forces of Cunningham and the Med Center expo! all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Curious posted Message 1572 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 19:07:42 Subject: A question for Steven Glazer : In all the sleaziness of Jersey City politics this guy is the lowest of the low. What exactly is out of bounds? Poking fun at a guy when his son dies? Not to Glazer. Speculating that a young woman is pregnant and who the father is. How many illegitimate kids has Glenn had? Even the likes of McCann knew that family was off limits but not this piece of crap. What goes around comes around and its coming real soon real hard you punk. What a way to make a living. Being Bobby Jackson's lackey. Bobby is a lackey himself and Glazer is his but boy. His little white boy toy. I'm one of the whites in this town who voted for Glenn and I deeply regret it. The fact that he allows no talent low lifes like you to polarize this city is a mark of his inferior leadership abilities and a sub-par intellect.Explain to us what makes a man into a hoe.does the name David Dinkins ring a bell? And Steve, do you have the nerve to Harvey, "Uncle Harvey" to his face? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uncle Harvey posted Message 1573 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 19:54:06 Subject: Re: A question for Steven Glazer Yeh to my face both of them : : In all the sleaziness of Jersey City politics this guy is the lowest of the low. What exactly is out of bounds? Poking fun at a guy when his son dies? Not to Glazer. Speculating that a young woman is pregnant and who the father is. How many illegitimate kids has Glenn had? Even the likes of McCann knew that family was off limits but not this piece of crap. What goes around comes around and its coming real soon real hard you punk. : What a way to make a living. Being Bobby Jackson's lackey. Bobby is a lackey himself and Glazer is his but boy. His little white boy toy. I'm one of the whites in this town who voted for Glenn and I deeply regret it. The fact that he allows no talent low lifes like you to polarize this city is a mark of his inferior leadership abilities and a sub-par intellect.Explain to us what makes a man into a hoe.does the name David Dinkins ring a bell? And Steve, do you have the nerve to Harvey, "Uncle Harvey" to his face? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Auntie Harvey posted Message 1574 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 19:55:40 Subject: I just a little girl leave me a alone Stop picking on me I'm Auntie Harvey ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kick the HCDO in the teeth posted Message 1575 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 19:58:14 Subject: Down with the HCDO RACISM All these fat over paid bribe taking HCDO people want eveybody to leave them alone now that they have been caught stealing. Well no now is a new day people that steal should at least hide it, but the bold HCDO puts in my face why do they expect us to take it? We shall not only over come but place our foot in your teeth. ***************** End Of Article ****************** joe2704 posted Message 1576 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 20:32:30 Subject: A question for Galzer Bro ,what is the scoop on the "tape"? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joe2704 posted Message 1577 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 20:33:23 Subject: Re: I just a little girl leave me a alone >Who is Auntie Harvey? : Stop picking on me I'm Auntie Harvey ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joe2704 posted Message 1578 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 20:34:44 Subject: Re: Down with the HCDO RACISM Who wants to be left alone? WE WANT NAMES.................... : All these fat over paid bribe taking HCDO people want eveybody to leave them alone now that they have been caught stealing. Well no now is a new day people that steal should at least hide it, but the bold HCDO puts in my face why do they expect us to take it? We shall not only over come but place our foot in your teeth. ***************** End Of Article ****************** carolyn Hadge posted Message 1579 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 21:33:45 Subject: Re: Jersey City Medical Center-What You Don’t Know Can Kill You I work with non violent criminals coming out of jail. I am trying to build a network of resources and have had a little difficulty trying to get a response and some mutual respect from one of the depatments. Now I have read this article and I can understand why - we need viable services - people can change their behavior and have a positive impact on a community - But if they are treated subhumanly and with no rspect then chances for change are minimal. I love Jersey city and want to learnall about it - Please keep me posted - thanks, Steve for your info. ***************** End Of Article ****************** George posted Message 1580 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2003 at 21:50:14 Subject: Re: A question for Steven Glazer You have a point Steve. You are so short you only reach his azz. So I guess you can only speak face to azz ***************** End Of Article ****************** In your dreams posted Message 1581 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2003 at 07:02:38 Subject: Re: Freedom of Speech This is just a sleazy NJO. Messages vanish from here too. So there is no great public service. Just try to type the word "s"t"i"n"k"e"r" & see what happens. Where's the vulgarity in that word? : Anthony Olszzewski courageously provides a valuable service at no cost open to all, guaranteeing expression of wildly divergent opinion, no matter how far from the so-called mainstream. This is a democratic ideal, this is what we as a nation are willing to go to war to defend. With the few exceptions of adult content, commercial promotion of other enterprises (free advertising=theft of services.) and gratuitous ethnic and racial slurs, anyone can say anything they like and publicly air their views. Those opinions, sometimes unpopular would find no outlet if not for GETNj.COM You do not have to endorse, support, concur with or even like those views. But if you support the democratic ideal, you are obligated to grant the holder of those opinions the same right to their views as you would expect for your own. You don't have to like it. You MUST respect it. Anthony Olzewski deserves our gratitude for providing this forum regardless your own politics. : Steven Glazer ***************** End Of Article ****************** LannyDavis, posted Message 1582 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2003 at 08:15:07 Subject: Glazer & Kennelly are needed here Found the on NJO ..ROTFLMFHO the big boys do not have the time or the expertise to come in here and play word games with the unwashed masses. It's up to the low lifes like us to do the dirty work and suffer all the slings and arrows etc. Rule #1 - Always ignore the charges and just initiate a personal attack against the person who is making them. Rule #2 - Obfuscate, obfuscate, obfuscate. Rule #3 - When cornered, argue over the definition of words in the English language. Rule #4 - Instead of responding to charges, refer to a similar offense by the other party. Good luck guys - and remember, I got my start in this town too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1583 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2003 at 09:47:57 Subject: Lanny .. You're my hero ! If I only had as dynamic a boss as your guy Slick Willy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1584 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2003 at 10:23:39 Subject: NJN Video: HCDO Appeals Judge D'Italia's Decision The HCDO rallies in front of the old Courthouse to announce their appeal of Judge D'Italia's decision. To view the video Online, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bob's Party is OVER posted Message 1585 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2003 at 10:32:20 Subject: Menendez - Worry About The Federal Courts : The HCDO rallies in front of the old Courthouse to announce their appeal of Judge D'Italia's decision. : To view the video Online, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kennelley's Got Tough Job posted Message 1586 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2003 at 10:35:50 Subject: Chakotay Stuck With TOM DeDUMB Keep dreaming Jim - Your stuck with the guy who could not even win Jersey City in the Primary after spending 2 Million. : If I only had as dynamic a boss as your guy Slick Willy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Felafel Bob posted Message 1587 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2003 at 11:17:36 Subject: Big Sale Special discount this week to all HCDO on Purina Jurbul Chow for that slick smooth glossy coat that Congressman Bob likes so much. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. Banks posted Message 1588 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2003 at 11:18:53 Subject: Re: Menendez - Worry About The Federal Courts : : The HCDO rallies in front of the old Courthouse to announce their appeal of Judge D'Italia's decision. : : To view the video Online, please click on the Link. Metal Shop occupational rehab. License plates for fun and profit. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SK posted Message 1589 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2003 at 16:05:02 Subject: Hudson Democrats blast role of McGreevey attorney general in campaign finance case; accuse Harvey of buckling to political pressure Hudson Democrats blast role of McGreevey attorney general in campaign finance case; accuse Harvey of buckling to political pressure By STEVE KORNACKI PoliticsNJ.com JERSEY CITY, September 15 - Leaders of the Hudson County Democratic Organization today laid the blame for their failed legal challenge to the results of the 31st District's June Democratic primary on a judge who they say misinterpreted state election law and an attorney general's office that they believe failed to stand up for the law because of political pressure. Rep. Robert Menendez (D-Hoboken), the HCDO's highest-ranking elected official, and state Senate Majority Leader Bernard F. Kenny, Jr. (D-Hoboken), the Hudson County Democratic Chairman, headlined a press conference on the steps of the Hudson County Superior Courthouse in Jersey City this morning at which the HCDO and its 31st District candidates blasted Superior Court Judge Arthur N. D'Italia's decision last week to dismiss their election contest on the grounds that campaign contribution limits don't apply to primaries as a poor precedent and predicted their appeal would be successful. But the harshest criticism from the HCDO leaders was reserved for state Attorney General Peter C. Harvey, whose office had declared itself neutral in the case while D'Italia heard it. In so doing, Kenny and other HCDO leaders charged today, Harvey shirked his responsibility to enforce the law. Specifically, Kenny attacked Harvey's office for withdrawing a letter to D'Italia before the trial that stated the court was the proper venue for the election challenge, failing to inform the state Election Law Enforcement Commission (ELEC) that the law governing contribution limits was being called into question, and never offering an opinion to D'Italia during the trial about whether contribution limits apply to primaries. A deputy attorney general was present in the courtroom throughout the trial, identifying himself before each session as appearing on behalf of the attorney general's office. "It should be noted that the attorney general's office, in three separate instances, took positions that were antagonistic to the laws of the state of New Jersey," Kenny stated. Afterwards, Kenny branded Harvey's conduct with respect to the election challenge "unethical" and said he was susp-icious that the attorney general's office had maintained a low profile during the trial because of political pressure. "I don't know if anyone was putting the pressure on him, but the buck has to stop with Peter Harvey," said Kenny. Asked if he was calling for any kind of sanction or punishment for Harvey, Kenny would only say, 'We're not through with him." Harvey's office wouldn't comment on the specific criticisms from Kenny and his fellow HCDO leaders, but by the end of the day, the attorney general had released a brief statement promising to support any appeal. "The Court's unexpected ruling in this case, in our view is contrary to legislative intent and upsets years of campaign finance practice," the statement read. "New Jersey Campaign Finance Law is designed to limit contributions in primary and general elections. We will support that principle." Harvey was confirmed as attorney general several months ago after a protracted confirmation process. Kenny, who voted to confirm Harvey, said he now regrets the vote. "I supported him because he told me he was a man of integrity," Kenny said. "How his office got out of control like this I don't know." A spokesman for the man who appointed Harvey, Gov. James E. McGreevey, was not anxious to address Kenny's pointed attacks. "I think he's more than capable of defending himself and I think he's the best one to explain his position in that case," said Micah Rasmussen, the governor's spokesman, said of Harvey. The HCDO was a key ally of McGreevey in his quest to win the governorship, but the governor has alienated the powerful Democratic Organization with several of his moves in recent months. Earlier this year, he angered Menendez when he opted not to appoint Zulima Farber to the Supreme Court, despite apparently assuring the congressman that he intended to nominate a Hispanic for the post. Rasmussen said McGreevey supports the HCDO's appeal of D'Italia's ruling because the governor believes there should be contribution limits in primaries, but stressed that McGreevey has no position on the specific aspects of the HCDO's election challenge. Kenny said if it seems his organization is at war with its own governor, it's not the HCDO's fault. "Every time we are put in position to react to something that the governor has done or the attorney general has done, we're asked to explain why we're reacting," he said. "We were victims of the attorney general here." The HCDO's press conference came just minutes after lawyers for Assemblyman Joseph V. Doria (D-Bayonne) and Assemblywoman Elba Perez-Cinciarelli (D-Jersey City), the HCDO-backed candidates who were defeated in the 31st District's June primary, appeared in court and dropped the last remaining count of their election challenge. Doria and Perez-Cinciarelli lost to former Hudson County Freeholder Louis Manzo and Bayonne Councilman Anthony Chiappone, who ran on a slate organized by Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. Cunningham bested L. Harvey Smith, Jersey City's council president, for the state Senate nomination. Despite their setback last week, HCDO leaders still hope to overturn the primary results on the grounds that Cunningham's slate received contributions that far exceeded limits established in a 1973 state law that set caps for individual and group donations for elections. D'Italia said his reading of the law led him to believe that the limits applied only to elections that led directly to a candidate winning public office. Primaries, in which parties nominate candidates for general elections, don't fall into that category, the judge opined. But at their press conference, the HCDO leaders said the ruling would lead to chaos, with candidates raising unlimited money in primaries and then simply carrying their balances over to the general election. The HCDO positioned its appeal of D'Italia's ruling as a defense of clean campaigning. "This has much greater consequences than just the race in the 31st District," said Menendez, who identified himself as a leading proponent of campaign finance reform at the congressional level. "This has statewide ramifications. This turns campaign finance on its ears." Menendez noted that the lack of contribution limits would give well-funded interests -- he singled out the casino industry -- an outsized voice in elections. The HCDO leaders also boated that they are being joined in their appeal by ELEC. Kenny noted that ELEC has retained private counsel for the appeal, which he said was because the commission had lost faith in the attorney general's office. But Jeffrey Brindle, ELEC's deputy director, said ELEC routinely uses private counsel and has no position on the attorney general's role in the election challenge. Even if an appeals court rules that contribution limits do apply to primaries, the HCDO must still prove that the contributions Cunningham's slate received were significant enough to alter this year's primary if the result is to be reversed. The HCDO leaders said they're confident they can make that case and pointed to D'Italia's ruling -- in which the judge indicated several Cunningham allies had provided false testimony -- as a sign that they're on to something. "We believe that if Judge D'Italia had not used this technicality, we would have been successful on this count," Doria said at the press conference. But the winning 31st District candidates and their attorneys also say they're confident they'll survive the appeal. They note that D'Italia went beyond ruling contribution limits inapplicable to primaries in his ruling last week and also addressed the merits of the HCDO's case even if the limits applied. The judge concluded that he would still have dismissed the suit. At a press conference held just minutes after the HCDO's, Angelo J. Genova, the attorney who represented Cunningham, Manzo and Chiappone, praised D'Italia's ruling, which he said wipes out an injustice that allowed county party organizations to spend whatever they wanted on behalf of candidates in primaries. As the rules were enforced prior to last week, Genova noted, a campaign like Cunningham's, which was not backed by the HCDO, was limited in the money it could receive from political organizations. "They would have you ignore the fact that the Hudson County Democratic Organization funded in large part and managed the campaigns of" Smith, Doria and Perez-Cinciarelli," Genova said of the HCDO. Manzo and Chiappone were also at the press conference, and characterized the HCDO's efforts to link their case to a defense of equitable campaign financing laws as disingenuous. "A judge has ruled that the playing field is even. And if the playing field is even, [the HCDO] can't win anymore," said Manzo. Manzo also chided Menendez for taking an active role in Hudson County politics, despite questions about the extent to which federal office holders may do so under the new McCain-Feingold campaign finance law. "It's egregious, it's hypocritical and he should be sanctioned for it," Manzo said. But Menendez said that Manzo didn't seem to get the point of the HCDO position. "Lou Manzo's complete ignorance of the law leads him once again to make a false accusation," said Menendez. "Today's press conference was in support of a legal appeal to ensure that state campaign finance laws were upheld has nothing to do with McCain-Feingold. Should Mr. Manzo succeed, I would hope he would be able to read legislation better than he has in this case." Steve Kornacki can be reached at kornackinj@aol.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Baghdad on the Hudson posted Message 1590 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2003 at 18:39:32 Subject: Hudson County Democratic Leadership Assails Attorney General Peter Harvey For Immediate Release: Contact: Javier Inclán Monday, September 15,2003 201-420-8898 Hudson County Democratic Leadership Assails Attorney General Peter Harvey (Jersey City) – Standing on the steps of the Hudson County Courthouse this morning, the Hudson County Democratic Organization leadership took Attorney General Peter Harvey to task for failing to act in defense of the Election Law Enforcement Commission’s right to control spending in both primary and general elections. Last week, Hudson County Superior Court judge Arthur D’Italia ruled that campaign finance limits do not apply to primaries and that therefore money funneled to the Cunningham for Senate campaign by two political committees was not illegal. Despite D’Italia’s repeated requests from the Attorney General to make his position known on this topic, Attorney General Peter Harvey remained silent, even as the biggest upset to campaign finance laws in thirty years was being decided. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Borderline posted Message 1591 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2003 at 18:51:31 Subject: Re: Chakotay Stuck With TOM DeDUMB The Jersey City voters don't despise Degise. It's just that they were captivated by Melba Walsh. : Keep dreaming Jim - Your stuck with the guy who could not even win Jersey City in the Primary after spending 2 Million. : : If I only had as dynamic a boss as your guy Slick Willy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tappy Phillips posted Message 1592 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2003 at 19:23:15 Subject: Re: Hudson County Democratic Leadership Assails Attorney General Peter Harvey GLAZER/JACKSON STILL IN THE "FLIER" BUSINESS??????? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1593 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 09:49:49 Subject: Dumb and Dumber Dumb and Dumber = All the posters who think I'm Jim. Bwahahahahahahahahaha !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** me posted Message 1594 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 09:52:05 Subject: ENOUGH ALREADY THIS IS A DEAD ISSUE..LET IT GO! no MESSAGE ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1595 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 10:36:47 Subject: NJN Video: HCDO Blasts Urban Times News To view the NJN Video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Spanish Schools posted Message 1596 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 12:13:19 Subject: Spanish Schools Antigua, Guatemala Spanish Schools Antigua, Guatemala Spanish Schools San José, Costa Rica Study Spanish Heredia, Costa Rica Spanish Courses Quito, Ecuador Spanish Schools Antigua, Guatemala Spanish Schools Quetzaltenango, Guatemala Spanish Schools Cuernavaca, México 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Spain ***************** End Of Article ****************** Spanish Schools posted Message 1601 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 12:13:40 Subject: Spanish Schools Antigua, Guatemala Spanish Schools Antigua, Guatemala Spanish Schools San José, Costa Rica Study Spanish Heredia, Costa Rica Spanish Courses Quito, Ecuador Spanish Schools Antigua, Guatemala Spanish Schools Quetzaltenango, Guatemala Spanish Schools Cuernavaca, México Spanish Schools Oaxaca, México Spanish School San Miguel De Allende, México don Quijote Spanish Schools Guanajuato, México Study Spanish Course Cusco, Perú Study Spanish Classes Arequipa, Perú don Quijote Spanish Schools Madrid, Spain Spanish School Málaga, Spain Spanish Schools Barcelona, Spain Spanish School Salamanca, Spain Spanish Schools Sevilla, Spain Spanish Schools Valencia, Spain Spanish School Almuñecar, Spain ***************** End Of Article ****************** Spanish Schools posted Message 1602 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 12:13:45 Subject: Spanish Schools Antigua, Guatemala Spanish Schools Antigua, Guatemala Spanish Schools San José, Costa Rica Study Spanish Heredia, Costa Rica Spanish Courses Quito, Ecuador Spanish Schools Antigua, Guatemala Spanish Schools Quetzaltenango, Guatemala Spanish Schools Cuernavaca, México Spanish Schools Oaxaca, México Spanish School San Miguel De Allende, México don Quijote Spanish Schools Guanajuato, México Study Spanish Course Cusco, Perú Study Spanish Classes Arequipa, Perú don Quijote Spanish Schools Madrid, Spain Spanish School Málaga, Spain Spanish Schools Barcelona, Spain Spanish School Salamanca, Spain Spanish Schools Sevilla, Spain Spanish Schools Valencia, Spain Spanish School Almuñecar, Spain ***************** End Of Article ****************** Spanish Schools posted Message 1603 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 12:13:47 Subject: Spanish Schools 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San Miguel De Allende, México don Quijote Spanish Schools Guanajuato, México Study Spanish Course Cusco, Perú Study Spanish Classes Arequipa, Perú don Quijote Spanish Schools Madrid, Spain Spanish School Málaga, Spain Spanish Schools Barcelona, Spain Spanish School Salamanca, Spain Spanish Schools Sevilla, Spain Spanish Schools Valencia, Spain Spanish School Almuñecar, Spain ***************** End Of Article ****************** pandp posted Message 1607 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 14:52:49 Subject: Ballott drawing Gerry McCann and two other independent candidates battling against Freeholder Radames "Ray" Velazquez for the Fourth District Freeholder seat, lost another round in court yesterday. In an earlier suit, they attempted to have the freeholder race under a black heavy line under the county race for County Executive and the legislative seats. A judge ruled that Velazquez was entitled to the Democratic freeholder nomination, running on the Democratic Column "A" ticket. Carl Czaplicki is the Republican nominee on Column "B." In yesterday’s ruling, McCann failed to have the independents placed on Columns C, D, and E. The judge ruled that rows C and D belonged to the Green Party and Herb Shaw ticket respectively. So the independents were placed on Columns E, F and G. They drew for position yesterday and Juanita Lopez, Anthony Cruz and Gerry McCann drew columns E, F and G respectively. It means that McCann is on Column G, which in this case means "Goner." Now only is his ballot position working against him, but a recent Hudson County Democratic Organization poll reveals that almost 70% of those polled say they will not vote for a convicted felon, whether his crimes pertained to his office or not. That’s not surprising in the current atmosphere in Hudson County. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 5 posted Message 1608 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 15:03:49 Subject: Arosen...who is? Captives of 1704: Arosen the Mohawk There was great rejoicing when the Mohawks returned from their raid upon Deerfield. The squaws served them eagerly, and the youths and the old men sang their praises about the council fire. Among these youths was a slender boy of thirteen named Arosen, or Squirrel. Already he was keen and swift in the hunt, and well-liked by his elders. [illustration caption: ABOUT THE COUNCIL FIRE] Arosen pitied little Eunice, the English captive. He was pleased with the Little Paleface, with her soft, brown eyes and her rich dark hair. When he brought her berries from the wild places she smiled. Then he gave her fresh stains for her face and hands, so that she might not feel strange among the other maidens. She had venison and game in plenty, for Arosen was quick and skillful with his bow. She knew well who brought the brilliant feathers and bits of blue and crimson wampum which she found from time to time under her tent-flap. [illustration caption: TO THE PRIEST] Later, on the day he was made chief, he wore a pouch of her embroidering. “Marry me,” he said, “and I will take the name of Williams. Is not your father a great chief?” So, when she was sixteen, they went to the priest and were married, and Arosen took Eunice, the white maiden, into his wigwam. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Captivated posted Message 1609 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 15:28:09 Subject: Re: Chakotay Stuck With TOM DeDUMB Did she captivate you?? : The Jersey City voters don't despise Degise. It's just that they were captivated by Melba Walsh. : : Keep dreaming Jim - Your stuck with the guy who could not even win Jersey City in the Primary after spending 2 Million. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 1610 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 16:28:33 Subject: GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER,” CONT…A SCANDAL THAT KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND WORSE GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER,” CONT…A SCANDAL THAT KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND WORSE Urban Times News By Steven Glazer, sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 1611 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 16:47:36 Subject: Shaking in his boots. I'm sure Jonathan Metsch is shaking in his boots at the prospect of Glazer and the UTN exposing this "scandal". I wish someone would sue the a$$ off Bobby Jackson and his UTN lackeys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The good fairy godmother posted Message 1612 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 16:51:25 Subject: Re: Shaking in his boots. Your wish will come true.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FEDERAL WITNESS PROTECTION posted Message 1613 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:04:52 Subject: HCDO ALERT LIFE IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM HCDO PEOPLE LIFE IS GOOD INSIDE THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM. ALTHOUGH IT HAS RECIEVED A GREAT DEAL OF BAD PRESS IT IS A GOOD PROGRAM THEY MOVED ME LAST WEEK TO ???? ANYWAY I'M SURE WITH ALL THE INFORMATION I PROVIDED WE WILL BE SEEING EACH OTHER SHORTLY MAYBE ON THE BEACH OR IN COURT EITHER WAY ITS BEEN FUN I THINK I HAVE A BOOK DEAL. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOVE IN THE AFTERNOON posted Message 1614 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:08:06 Subject: GUESS WHOS BEEN SEEING WHO AT YOU NOWHERE IT SEEMS NO MATTER HOW MANY INVESTIGATIONS AGAINST OUR BELOVED CONGRESSMAN ARE LAUNCHED IT CANNOT STOP HIS NEED FOR LOVE. RECENTLY SEEN AT THE USUAL PLACE WITH SOMEONE NEW. THE WAITERS COUNT SEVEN DIFFERENT PARTNERS. THIS TYPE OF ABILITY CAN ONLY MEAN THE OVAL OFFICE IS NEAR. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1615 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:08:36 Subject: Re: HCDO ALERT LIFE IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM Is that the program Francis S hooked you up with at Newport? ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1616 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:10:49 Subject: Re: GUESS WHOS BEEN SEEING WHO AT YOU NOWHERE So I guess you didn't learn your lesson yet. Now if i played the game the way you do what should I post next?hmmmmmmmmm let's see. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TELL THE TRUTH posted Message 1617 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:12:59 Subject: IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE HCDO TO BE REBUILT? PROBABLY NOT BUT THIS PRESENTS THE CHANCE FOR JERSEY CITY TO LEAVE THE COUNTY AND START A NEW COUNTY. SINCE THE HUDSON COUNTY ORGANIZATION IS FULL OF CORRUPT EVIL PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT CROOKS LIKE DS,RM, AND OTHERS IT IS NOT WORTH FIGHTING WITH THEIR RACIST REGIME STARTING A NEW COUNTY IS THE ONLY ANSWER. ***************** End Of Article ****************** YES OF COURSE posted Message 1618 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:15:29 Subject: Re: HCDO ALERT LIFE IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM YES HOW DID YU KNOW : Is that the program Francis S hooked you up with at Newport? ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1619 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:16:12 Subject: Re: IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE HCDO TO BE REBUILT? This will be fun! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HOSPITAL SCANDAL HCDO KILLERS posted Message 1620 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:17:32 Subject: POOR HEALTH CARE DUE TO CORRUPTION IS IT POSSIBLE THERE IS A LINK BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL SCANDAL AND THE HCDO, I'M NOT SURE MAYBE IT IS LIKE LOOKING FOR TERRORIST IN IRAQ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1621 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:18:09 Subject: Re: HCDO ALERT LIFE IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM Revenge is a dish served best when cold! ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1622 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:19:42 Subject: Re: POOR HEALTH CARE DUE TO CORRUPTION : IS IT POSSIBLE THERE IS A LINK BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL SCANDAL AND THE UTN, I'M NOT SURE MAYBE IT IS LIKE LOOKING FOR "consultants" IN Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO CORRUPTION KILLS posted Message 1623 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:20:33 Subject: THE STOLEN FUNDS FROM THE HOSPITAL INSURANCE FUND HOW MANY MILLIONS ARE THERE OFFSHORE IN THE HCDO SLUSH FUND. MAYBE NOT EVERYONE KNOWS HOW MUCH HAS BEEN HIDDEN MAYBE ONLY TWO PEOPLE ARE INVOVLED? I THINK THE AMOUNT WOULD SHOCK THOSE THAT HAVE NOT SHARED IN THE ILL GOTTEN GAINS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1624 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:22:04 Subject: Re: THE STOLEN FUNDS FROM THE HOSPITAL INSURANCE FUND And how much money does your boss have? ***************** End Of Article ****************** MAYBE YOUR RIGHT posted Message 1625 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:22:54 Subject: Re: POOR HEALTH CARE DUE TO CORRUPTION ALTHOUGH THE SERVICES OF A CONSULTANT HAVE NEVER BEEN KNOWN TO KILL PEOPLE. SOME AREAS ARE CRITICAL LIKE SAVING LIVES SOME ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT THIS SCANDAL IS MURDER VERY CLEAN MURDER. : : IS IT POSSIBLE THERE IS A LINK BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL SCANDAL AND THE UTN, I'M NOT SURE MAYBE IT IS LIKE LOOKING FOR "consultants" IN Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** MY BOSS IS GOD posted Message 1626 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:24:56 Subject: Re: THE STOLEN FUNDS FROM THE HOSPITAL INSURANCE FUND I'M AN ANGEL AND HAVE NEVER RECIEVED ONE CENT FOR ANYTHING I HAVE UNCOVERED. I LIVE FOR PEACE AND LOVE. I SLEEP SOUNDLY AND ENJOY LIFE BECAUSE I DO GOOD AND STOPPING MURDER IN ANY FORM IS GOOD. IT CAN BE SOLVED BY STOPPING THE HCDO. : And how much money does your boss have? ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1627 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:25:31 Subject: Re: POOR HEALTH CARE DUE TO CORRUPTION Your not a dumb man so think before you type. : ALTHOUGH THE SERVICES OF A CONSULTANT HAVE NEVER BEEN KNOWN TO KILL PEOPLE. SOME AREAS ARE CRITICAL LIKE SAVING LIVES SOME ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT THIS SCANDAL IS MURDER VERY CLEAN MURDER. : : : : IS IT POSSIBLE THERE IS A LINK BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL SCANDAL AND THE UTN, I'M NOT SURE MAYBE IT IS LIKE LOOKING FOR "consultants" IN Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** I SPEAK FROM THE DEAD YOU HAVE NO IDEA posted Message 1628 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:26:34 Subject: Re: HCDO ALERT LIFE IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM SINCE I'M OFFICIALLY DEAD I SPEAK WITH AUTHORITY YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW COLD IT CAN GET. : Revenge is a dish served best when cold! ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1629 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:26:56 Subject: Re: THE STOLEN FUNDS FROM THE HOSPITAL INSURANCE FUND And the lies you print is that your darker side? One does not make up for the other. ***************** End Of Article ****************** PRETTY STUPID I CAME BACK AFTER A LONG TIME GONE posted Message 1630 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:29:46 Subject: Re: POOR HEALTH CARE DUE TO CORRUPTION AFTER A LONG TIME I HAVE RETURNED TO JERSEY CITY. MANY WILL NOT KNOW ME NOW BUT I'M BACK AND I HAVE A CAN OF WORMS TO OPEN AND IT WILL CREATE A REAL HEADACHE FOR SOME. : Your not a dumb man so think before you type. : : : ALTHOUGH THE SERVICES OF A CONSULTANT HAVE NEVER BEEN KNOWN TO KILL PEOPLE. SOME AREAS ARE CRITICAL LIKE SAVING LIVES SOME ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT THIS SCANDAL IS MURDER VERY CLEAN MURDER. : : : : : : IS IT POSSIBLE THERE IS A LINK BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL SCANDAL AND THE UTN, I'M NOT SURE MAYBE IT IS LIKE LOOKING FOR "consultants" IN Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1631 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:30:28 Subject: Re: HCDO ALERT LIFE IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM Yes I do. I am fully prepared to stand behind what I have done. If It can make right for the good people who were wrong by you. : SINCE I'M OFFICIALLY DEAD I SPEAK WITH AUTHORITY YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW COLD IT CAN GET. : : : Revenge is a dish served best when cold! ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1632 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:31:49 Subject: Re: POOR HEALTH CARE DUE TO CORRUPTION I know more then you think I do.nc ***************** End Of Article ****************** MUSTO'S REVENGE posted Message 1633 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:34:04 Subject: Re: THE STOLEN FUNDS FROM THE HOSPITAL INSURANCE FUND NEVER LIES ONLY THE TRUTH THE TRUTH OF A SCORE TO SETTLE WATCH OUT RM AND DS YOUR TIME FOR PAYBACK IS AT HAND. : And the lies you print is that your darker side? One does not make up for the other. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MUSTO'S REVENGE posted Message 1634 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:35:14 Subject: Re: POOR HEALTH CARE DUE TO CORRUPTION I DO NOT THINK ANYMORE I LIVE AND HAVE LIVED TO SETTLE AN OLD DEBT OWED TO ME. : I know more then you think I do.nc ***************** End Of Article ****************** MUSTO'S REVENGE posted Message 1635 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:36:56 Subject: Re: HCDO ALERT LIFE IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IS PROTECT THOSE THAT WOULD STEAL FROM YOU NOTHING MORE YOU ARE LIKE I WAS EASILY TAKEN IN. : Yes I do. I am fully prepared to stand behind what I have done. : If It can make right for the good people who were wrong by you. : : SINCE I'M OFFICIALLY DEAD I SPEAK WITH AUTHORITY YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW COLD IT CAN GET. : : : : : Revenge is a dish served best when cold! ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1636 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:38:37 Subject: Re: THE STOLEN FUNDS FROM THE HOSPITAL INSURANCE FUND Now come on you can do better . What a waste of talent. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1637 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:43:11 Subject: Re: HCDO ALERT LIFE IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM You can do better then that. Look who gives you your paycheck. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1638 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 21:46:42 Subject: Re: POOR HEALTH CARE DUE TO CORRUPTION There are no old debts in your life. People screw us when we allow it. Stop allowing it and there is no problem. We all make our own choices. Screw me once shame on you ..screw me twice shame on me! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Wonderful Billy Musto posted Message 1639 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 22:04:12 Subject: Every Dog Has their Day Menendez can give it -- BUT BOBBY BOY CAN'T TAKE IT !!! How do you like it now Bobby Boy ? I told you over twenty years ago - " TAKE THE FIFTH " ***************** End Of Article ****************** TTF posted Message 1640 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 22:11:35 Subject: Re: Every Dog Has their Day Your score is not with Bob. Why all the anger? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Wonderful Billy Musto posted Message 1641 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 22:15:20 Subject: He Bit the Hand that Fed Him : Your score is not with Bob. Why all the anger? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT !!! I PUT SHOES ON HIS FEET !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1642 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2003 at 22:19:50 Subject: Re: He Bit the Hand that Fed Him :And you were so close to being human.... ***************** End Of Article ****************** You think you know posted Message 1643 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2003 at 06:28:16 Subject: Re: GUESS WHOS BEEN SEEING WHO AT YOU NOWHERE : So I guess you didn't learn your lesson yet. : Now if i played the game the way you do what should I post next?hmmmmmmmmm let's see. But You Don't ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1644 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2003 at 10:30:13 Subject: Re: GUESS WHOS BEEN SEEING WHO AT YOU NOWHERE But I can! and that gives me the upper-hand. The upper hand is calming power. I have the ball in my court and I will decide when to serve it. Like you I can be a S.O.B, but that is the only thing that is similar. I will hold back until you have pushed me past my breaking point, and then my friend I will no longer take pitty on you. The choice is yours ..keep being a evil person and you will see. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1645 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2003 at 10:31:52 Subject: Re: GUESS WHOS BEEN SEEING WHO AT YOU NOWHERE : But I can! and that gives me the upper-hand. The upper hand is calming power. I have the ball in my court and I will decide when to serve it. : Like you I can be a S.O.B, but that is the only thing that is similar. I will hold back until you have pushed me past my breaking point, and then my friend I will no longer take pitty on you. : The choice is yours ..keep being a evil person and you will see. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So You Say posted Message 1646 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2003 at 12:12:26 Subject: Re: GUESS WHOS BEEN SEEING WHO AT YOU NOWHERE : : But I can! and that gives me the upper-hand. The upper hand is calming power. I have the ball in my court and I will decide when to serve it. Go Ahead Then. You got no court and no ball. You got nothing. : : Like you I can be a S.O.B, but that is the only thing that is similar. I will hold back until you have pushed me past my breaking point, and then my friend I will no longer take pitty on you. Touching. No one wants your information,let alone your "pitty" : : The choice is yours ..keep being a evil person and you will see. We all make choices. I see now. Do what you want. It makes no difference except in your sick mind. I wish you a speedy recovery if your condition is not already terminal ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1647 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2003 at 13:16:42 Subject: Re: GUESS WHOS BEEN SEEING WHO AT YOU NOWHERE So let it be written, So let it be done! : Touching. No one wants your information,let alone your "pitty" : : : The choice is yours ..keep being a evil person and you will see. : We all make choices. I see now. Do what you want. It makes no difference except in your sick mind. I wish you a speedy recovery if your condition is not already terminal ***************** End Of Article ****************** OK Here We Go posted Message 1648 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2003 at 18:34:42 Subject: Re: GUESS WHOS BEEN SEEING WHO AT YOU NOWHERE : IT SEEMS NO MATTER HOW MANY INVESTIGATIONS AGAINST OUR BELOVED CONGRESSMAN ARE LAUNCHED IT CANNOT STOP HIS NEED FOR LOVE. RECENTLY SEEN AT THE USUAL PLACE WITH SOMEONE NEW. THE WAITERS COUNT SEVEN DIFFERENT PARTNERS. THIS TYPE OF ABILITY CAN ONLY MEAN THE OVAL OFFICE IS NEAR. Does Glenn pay child support for Sergio's adopted son? Does he acknowledge the boy at all? ***************** End Of Article ****************** RSun posted Message 1649 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2003 at 21:26:43 Subject: Re: GUESS WHOS BEEN SEEING WHO AT YOU NOWHERE : : IT SEEMS NO MATTER HOW MANY INVESTIGATIONS AGAINST OUR BELOVED CONGRESSMAN ARE LAUNCHED IT CANNOT STOP HIS NEED FOR LOVE. RECENTLY SEEN AT THE USUAL PLACE WITH SOMEONE NEW. THE WAITERS COUNT SEVEN DIFFERENT PARTNERS. THIS TYPE OF ABILITY CAN ONLY MEAN THE OVAL OFFICE IS NEAR. : Does Glenn pay child support for Sergio's adopted son? Does he acknowledge the boy at all? What's it to you Dweeb? ***************** End Of Article ****************** : LOL posted Message 1650 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2003 at 21:34:52 Subject: Re: GUESS WHOS BEEN SEEING WHO AT YOU NOWHERE Now that is cold! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CNN posted Message 1651 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2003 at 22:54:22 Subject: HCDO BLAMED FOR ISABEL'S FURY Breaking news from UTN central.Steve Glazer has uncovered another HCDO plot..last seen moving in from Cuba the magicial forces behind the HCDO are the cause of this latest weather trend. When will it stop? what can we do? No problem folks Glazer is on top of it. Hurricane Isabel's winds began lashing the coasts of North Carolina and Virginia early Thursday morning, according to the National Hurricane Center. The gang at UTN are on the way ready to fight the forces of evil....NOT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO vs ISABEL posted Message 1652 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 09:03:26 Subject: Re: HCDO BLAMED FOR ISABEL'S FURY That may not be so far fetched..After all the HCDO is full of an awful lot of "HOT AIR" and the have been spreading pretty far and wide... ***************** End Of Article ****************** ISABEL AND HCDO ARE VERY MUCH ALIKE posted Message 1653 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 09:19:23 Subject: Re: HCDO BLAMED FOR ISABEL'S FURY : Breaking news from UTN central.Steve Glazer has uncovered another HCDO plot..last seen moving in from Cuba the magicial forces behind the HCDO are the cause of this latest weather trend. When will it stop? what can we do? No problem folks Glazer is on top of it. Hurricane Isabel's winds began lashing the coasts of North Carolina and Virginia early Thursday morning, according to the National Hurricane Center. The gang at UTN are on the way ready to fight the forces of evil....NOT! BIG WIND LITTLE RAIN TREMENDOUS DAMAGE THERE WILL BE A COSTLY CLEANUP ***************** End Of Article ****************** Forest Gump posted Message 1654 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 10:08:53 Subject: HCDO is as HCDO does Spend $2 Milllion to lose badly in the election? Spend another $750,000 to lose badly in the courts? Lash out at everybody who does not agree with you? Now prepare to spend another $$$? how much to appeal? Alienate the few remaining people not already turned off? Pay more money to strategists who have delivered these results? Refuse to quit while you are ahead before you become an ass? What would you call that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bunker Mentality posted Message 1655 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 10:21:02 Subject: HCDO in Self Destruct Mode Received Target Letters From Federal Government. HCDO is in final phase of it's self destruct mode. Like Hitler in the Bunker - Oblivious to what is going on in the outside world. : Spend $2 Milllion to lose badly in the election? : Spend another $750,000 to lose badly in the courts? : Lash out at everybody who does not agree with you? : Now prepare to spend another $$$? how much to appeal? : Alienate the few remaining people not already turned off? : Pay more money to strategists who have delivered these results? : Refuse to quit while you are ahead before you become an ass? : What would you call that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kools posted Message 1656 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 10:28:40 Subject: THE RULES the big boys do not have the time or the expertise to come in here and play word games with the unwashed masses. It's up to the low lifes like us to do the dirty work and suffer all the slings and arrows etc. Rule #1 - Always ignore the charges and just initiate a personal attack against the person who is making them. Rule #2 - Obfuscate, obfuscate, obfuscate. Rule #3 - When cornered, argue over the definition of words in the English language. Rule #4 - Instead of responding to charges, refer to a similar offense by the other party. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Kennelly posted Message 1657 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 10:28:46 Subject: A Modest Proposal County Executive Thomas DeGise has announced a visionary plan to augment county revenues and avoid tax increases like the wildly popular Minitax. DeGise has authorized the return of Corporal Punishment for certain lower level felonies such as purse snatching, and unauthorized use of County Property, and keeping library books out past the due date, for example. "It would be like WWF on cable pay-per-view," said DeGise, "A reality version of guts and gore for the raw meat crowd. We anticipate huge revenues, especially for the more creative punishments. For example, assault would be punished by a gang stomping. Four of our biggest meanest Sheriff's officers would wail on the convicted felon, beating the stuffings out of him or her. That would definitely sell." DeGise's proposal would authorize the use of deadly force for more serious offenses such as parking in reserved spots in the Administration and Court parking lots. Deadly force could be applied in creative ways making that more of a spectator event. Crushing, would not only administer the lawful penalty, according to DeGise, but also create supplemental employment for the now out of work Fat Joe, who would sit on the victims while eating Philly Cheesteak sandwichs. Revenue projections from ticket sales to public executions and floggings, stonings, beatings and such, based on preliminary talks with the broadcast and cable networks indicate a massive cashflow from the box office for such events, reaching a worldwide audience via satellite and cable. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Too Funny posted Message 1658 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 11:33:42 Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal I just love the sense of humor on this site! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Windy Williams posted Message 1659 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 11:58:24 Subject: Re: HCDO BLAMED FOR ISABEL'S FURY : : Breaking news from UTN central.Steve Glazer has uncovered another HCDO plot..last seen moving in from Cuba the magicial forces behind the HCDO are the cause of this latest weather trend. When will it stop? what can we do? No problem folks Glazer is on top of it. Hurricane Isabel's winds began lashing the coasts of North Carolina and Virginia early Thursday morning, according to the National Hurricane Center. The gang at UTN are on the way ready to fight the forces of evil....NOT! : BIG WIND = Bobby Jackson talking : LITTLE RAIN = THE AMOUNT OF TEARS WE WILL CRY WHEN GLAZER GETS SUED : TREMENDOUS DAMAGE = TELL EM' STEVE : THERE WILL BE A COSTLY CLEANUP= WHEN GLEN FINDS OUT :WHAT YOU DID-HOW YOU DID IT- AND HOW YOU GOT CAUGHT ***************** End Of Article ****************** WINDY WILLIAMS posted Message 1660 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 11:59:09 Subject: Re: HCDO BLAMED FOR ISABEL'S FURY : That may not be so far fetched..After all the UTN is full of an awful lot of "HOT AIR" and the have been spreading pretty far and wide... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Windy Williams posted Message 1661 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 12:00:09 Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal Not bad, not bad at all! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Windy Williams posted Message 1662 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 12:01:15 Subject: Glazer is as Glazer Does GUMP! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 1663 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 12:20:43 Subject: JCRA TO NARROW MEDICAL CENTER DEVELOPER CHOICE AT SPECIAL MEETING Urban Times News Steven Glazer email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** mo money posted Message 1664 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 13:08:29 Subject: Re: JCRA TO NARROW MEDICAL CENTER DEVELOPER CHOICE AT SPECIAL MEETING : : Urban Times News : Steven Glazer email: sglazer@urbantimesnews.com THe hype over METROVEST and Filopolous is that he hired Bobby Jackson and Joe Cardwell...need we say more! Bobby gets the bucks and what does glazer get? ***************** End Of Article ****************** ISABEL vs HCDO posted Message 1665 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 14:42:30 Subject: no originality windy It's amazing how little originality the HCDO people have... Not to be able to come up ones own words...mmmmmm a familiar pattern here I'd say ***************** End Of Article ****************** blah blah blah posted Message 1666 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 16:52:52 Subject: Re: no originality Glazer : It's amazing how little originality the UTN people have... : Not to be able to come up ones own words...mmmmmm a familiar pattern here I'd say ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fukken A posted Message 1667 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 17:01:05 Subject: Re: HCDO BLAMED FOR ISABEL'S FURY : : : Breaking news from UTN central.Steve Glazer has uncovered another HCDO plot..last seen moving in from Cuba the magicial forces behind the HCDO are the cause of this latest weather trend. When will it stop? what can we do? No problem folks Glazer is on top of it. Hurricane Isabel's winds began lashing the coasts of North Carolina and Virginia early Thursday morning, according to the National Hurricane Center. The gang at UTN are on the way ready to fight the forces of evil....NOT! : : BIG WIND = Bobby Jackson talking : : LITTLE RAIN = THE AMOUNT OF TEARS WE WILL CRY WHEN GLAZER GETS SUED : : TREMENDOUS DAMAGE = TELL EM' STEVE : : THERE WILL BE A COSTLY CLEANUP= WHEN GLEN FINDS OUT :WHAT YOU DID-HOW YOU DID IT- AND HOW YOU GOT CAUGHT You Guys Got Nothin- Lookin Up at Zero What a sorry lot ***************** End Of Article ****************** Worry ...who me? posted Message 1668 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 20:15:11 Subject: Re: HCDO BLAMED FOR ISABEL'S FURY Re-trace your last few months did you do or say anything? If you have nothing to worry about you are fine but, maybe you do. The ball is in his court. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WW posted Message 1669 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 20:16:31 Subject: Re: HCDO BLAMED FOR ISABEL'S FURY : Re-trace your last few months did you do or say anything? : If you have nothing to worry about you are fine but, maybe you do. : The ball is in his court. P.S. THE QUESTION IS...WHO DID SHE GIVE THE BALL TO? ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 1670 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 21:20:57 Subject: What goes on here ? : THe hype over METROVEST and Filopolous is that he hired Bobby Jackson and Joe Cardwell...need we say more! : Bobby gets the bucks and what does glazer get? The word is that Munley is trying to torpedo Filopoulos. Jackson and Cardwell vs. Munley ? Very interesting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** kitty kat posted Message 1671 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2003 at 21:27:23 Subject: Re: What goes on here ? I like it...maybe they will all cat fight! MEOOOOOOOOOOOOOW! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Maggie posted Message 1672 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2003 at 08:35:13 Subject: J.C. TEACHER CONVOCATION CONTINENTAL ARENA Does anyone know how much it cost to rent Continental Arena for the Teacher Convocation??? How do they justify spending money like this for motivational meetings when they've cut back: After-school programs, field trips, teacher assistants - resource teachers, classroom supplies, etc., etc., etc. There are over 30 children in some classrooms, with the average of about 22 students. I really want to know how much they spent on this. I also want to know whether it's true that Mr. Epps purchased hard cover books for every teacher in J.C. for Reading Across America - for the sole purpose of reading an exerpt for 15 minutes . They could have made copies and saved tons of money. I'm not sure of the exact amount, but I heard the books were over $20 a piece. I'd also like to know who the author is and if he's an associate of Mr. Epps. Taxpayers and Parents ---- get informed. Your money's being wasted and your kids are suffering. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wolly Bully posted Message 1673 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2003 at 18:33:41 Subject: UTN should look in the mirror THOSE WHO MOST LOUDLY PROCLAIM THEIR TRUTHFULLNESS AND HONESTY ARE THE ONES MOST LIKELY TO LIE AND DECEIVE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer is as Glazer Does! posted Message 1674 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2003 at 18:35:55 Subject: Re: THE STOLEN FUNDS FROM THE HOSPITAL INSURANCE FUND THOSE WHO MOST LOUDLY PROCLAIM THEIR TRUTHFULLNESS AND HONEST ARE THE ONES MOST LIKELY TO LIE AND DECEIVE.....You know what I mean Steve and Bobby! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Princeton posted Message 1675 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2003 at 20:52:40 Subject: Who is... what is ...what happened? CF ***************** End Of Article ****************** Burke posted Message 1676 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2003 at 08:45:33 Subject: The Cunningham's I attended this vigil at Exchange Place with my sister and children. It was very unorganized; Cunningham was a half hour late, nobody knew who was running the event and it was too political. The highlight of the evening was the entertainment, both singers were absolutely wonderful. However during the first song, featuring MJ Medina, our illustrious mayor was giving and recieving political phone numbers and such, 3 feet in front of me!!! I was there with tears in my eyes remembering the person I lost holding my young son and now during the second song Mrs. Mayor did nothing but yawn through the whole thing. Now I understand it was a long day and she was tired but have some class, turn your head or cover your mouth, ANYTHING! There is a time and place for everything, that day and place was not then right one for this man to do what he did. Oh well, I guess I set my hopes too high for him to be a little more supportive and a little selfish. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Short story posted Message 1677 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2003 at 15:13:47 Subject: My Name is Steven Glazer..... Ok I'll admit it I'm stupid and corrupt and work for the Urban Times News Ok if the truth be known I'm a troll for the UTN I get paid to watch this board and try to take the edge off of the real truth. Basically I achieve this by telling lies but mostly by detracting from the person telling the truth. So it is a bad thing to help liars like the UTN but I don't get paid very well and do nothing but bother people that post on boards its a great job. By the way I'm paid in a no show job guess which Agency. If you could get away with it you would do it to. Just so you know I do not believe a single thing I post. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1678 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2003 at 15:37:32 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1679 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2003 at 19:52:01 Subject: Re: Do you know my name? ..... I'll take Do you know my name for 100. Daily Double....yippie! Answer: STEVE GLAZER ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gemini posted Message 1680 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2003 at 08:41:13 Subject: Nuestra Communidad Menendez is always saying "nuestra communidad." Does the congressman mean millionaires or overweight, middle-aged, white men? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1681 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2003 at 09:04:11 Subject: NJN 09/08/03 Video: Congressman Menendez and Mayor Glenn Cunningham To view Michael Aron's report, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sam the Sham posted Message 1682 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2003 at 12:43:30 Subject: Re: UTN should look in the mirror : THOSE WHO MOST LOUDLY PROCLAIM THEIR TRUTHFULLNESS AND HONESTY ARE THE ONES MOST LIKELY TO LIE AND DECEIVE. Yes, and you should get professinal help--right away. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1683 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2003 at 12:48:34 Subject: Something to think about................ A question for Mayor Cunningham "We are a reflection of the people we surround ourselves with." How does that reflect on you? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1684 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2003 at 15:37:16 Subject: JCRA Meeting 5:00PM, City Hall, 280 Grove Street The Jersey City Redevelopment Agency meeting is 5:00 this afternoon. Today's meeting is at the City Council Chambers, City Hall, 280 Grove Street. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 1685 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2003 at 18:29:00 Subject: Tonites show topics The winner from tonites JCRA meeting concerning the development of the JC Med center, State Sen L Harvey Smith? court tells HCDO no rush! all this and more tonite 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio...Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DecentDem posted Message 1686 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2003 at 22:53:42 Subject: Congratulations Senator Smith Congratulations to Harvey Smith on his election to serve the unexpired term of State Senator for the 31st Legislative District. The 31st District's Democratic Committee members elected Mr. Smith at last night's special meeting by the overwhelming vote of 159 for Smith to 104 for Cunningham, a smashing 60% victory.In so many ways Harvey Smith is a better person than Glenn Cunningham and would have made a much better State Senator. It's too bad the Democratic Primary voters in the 31st District didn't vote last June the way the Democratic Committee members did last night. In my opinion, it's because Cunningham has so many of them buffaloed at this time, because the Urban Times News did such a disgraceful hatchet job on Harvey Smith for the last two years, and because the Hudson County Democratic Organization did such a poor job contrasting Smith's strengths to Cunningham's current weaknesses in the June Primary campaign. Even though the time is short, represent us well and Good Luck Harvey. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens, The Urban Times News posted Message 1687 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2003 at 09:45:03 Subject: INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP by Jay Stevens ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1688 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2003 at 11:04:01 Subject: Mayor Cunningham This is a perfect example of what I meant when I posted: A question for Mayor Cunningham "We are a reflection of the people we surround ourselves with." How does that reflect on you? Look at what Bobby Jackson puts in the URBAN TIMES NEWS ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2003 at 11:44:33 Subject: Freshman State Senator Glenn Cunningham This January, Glenn Cunningham starts his first term as State Senator. Would Mayor Cunningham have had seniority in the Statehouse if he served the remaing portion of Senator (now Judge) Joe Charles's term? ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's right posted Message 1690 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2003 at 12:33:00 Subject: Re: Mayor Cunningham : This is a perfect example of what I meant when I posted: : A question for Mayor Cunningham : "We are a reflection of the people we surround ourselves with." : How does that reflect on you? : Look at what Bobby Jackson puts in the URBAN TIMES NEWS What are you worried about? You don't have to read it. Many people like and enjoy it. Did you ever hear "to each his own?" Guess not. You must be HCDO or County employee. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1691 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2003 at 12:42:41 Subject: Re: Mayor Cunningham No, as a matter of fact I work for the city. : : What are you worried about? You don't have to read it. Many people like and enjoy it. Did you ever hear "to each his own?" : Guess not. You must be HCDO or County employee. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1692 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2003 at 12:50:38 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Radio Show: Audio Online To access the Online Audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1693 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2003 at 15:11:58 Subject: Re: Freshman State Senator Glenn Cunningham Logically the poster is correct. Here's how: Lets say the fact (Seniority) = true and the fact (No Seniority) = false Then (Senioity) AND (No Seniority) = FALSE according to Boolean logic (true AND false) = false. Hope that answers all questions!....just kidding! :o) ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1694 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2003 at 15:14:40 Subject: Re: UTN should look in the mirror Tell that to your boyz at UTN ....it is a quote from this weeks rag. (My birds are crapping on it as we speak.) ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1695 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2003 at 19:04:25 Subject: NJN Video 09/23/03: HCDO Knocks Down Cunningham, Chooses Smith To view the NJN video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Happy as can be! posted Message 1696 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2003 at 20:13:43 Subject: Re: NJN Video 09/23/03: HCDO Knocks Down Cunningham, Chooses Smith Way to go Harvey! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1697 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 06:23:25 Subject: I was very disappointed with this NJN report. I was very disappointed with this NJN report. NJN never asked GET NJ for our take on Senator Kenny's rant. As it was, I just happened to turn on the TV and saw a fuming Bernard Kenny. I thought to myself, "I wonder what's got him all bent out of shape?" Then, NJN showed screenshots of GET NJ! Bernard Kenny charges that critics smeared HCDO figures as "pedophiles" and "necrophiliac." Simply by using the search feature, one learns that those terms (and any variants) don't appear here at the GET NJ Hudson County Politics Message Board. Didn't NJN perform this check? Plus, I can't remember ever removing posts with those words. GET NJ is open to all coherent points of view. A cursory glance reveals anti-Cunningham posts, anti-Urban Times News messages, and anti-anti-HCDO replies. Didn't NJN see this? And, most importantly, what's Senator Kenny's point? The way it looks to me, all he's saying is that 'cause someone spoke nasty to him, he's taking his ball and going home. ***************** End Of Article ****************** B.S. Anthony posted Message 1698 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 07:44:12 Subject: Re: I was very disappointed with this NJN report. : I was very disappointed with this NJN report. NJN never asked GET NJ for our take on Senator Kenny's rant. As it was, I just happened to turn on the TV and saw a fuming Bernard Kenny. I thought to myself, "I wonder what's got him all bent out of shape?" Then, NJN showed screenshots of GET NJ! : Bernard Kenny charges that critics smeared HCDO figures as "pedophiles" and "necrophiliac." Simply by using the search feature, one learns that those terms (and any variants) don't appear here at the GET NJ Hudson County Politics Message Board. Didn't NJN perform this check? Plus, I can't remember ever removing posts with those words. : GET NJ is open to all coherent points of view. A cursory glance reveals anti-Cunningham posts, anti-Urban Times News messages, and anti-anti-HCDO replies. Didn't NJN see this? : And, most importantly, what's Senator Kenny's point? The way it looks to me, all he's saying is that 'cause someone spoke nasty to him, he's taking his ball and going home. You have allowed yourself to become a Cunningham lackey who now even advertises in the UTN. Not everyone has the ability to stoop to the level of Jackson and Glazer and attack families, dead children, dead fathers, lie about sexual preferences and personal and family matters so your offer of anyone using this board in such a way is hollow. Only the lowlife Cunningham crew has the stomach for it. Never mind individual words. Did you allow the attack on Menendez's Dad the other day? Do you find that acceptable? Or on Kenny's dad? Or Smith's son? Or DeGise? Or Brennan? Or Gaughan? Or Lipski, at least until the little weasel flipped? When do YOU say that they have crossed the line? You are as responsible as any of them for the smut on this site. You may have made some new friends but Anthony you have lost all your old ones. ***************** End Of Article ****************** B.S. Anthony posted Message 1699 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 07:57:49 Subject: Re: I was very disappointed with this NJN report. : I was very disappointed with this NJN report. NJN never asked GET NJ for our take on Senator Kenny's rant. As it was, I just happened to turn on the TV and saw a fuming Bernard Kenny. I thought to myself, "I wonder what's got him all bent out of shape?" Then, NJN showed screenshots of GET NJ! : Bernard Kenny charges that critics smeared HCDO figures as "pedophiles" and "necrophiliac." Simply by using the search feature, one learns that those terms (and any variants) don't appear here at the GET NJ Hudson County Politics Message Board. Didn't NJN perform this check? Plus, I can't remember ever removing posts with those words. : GET NJ is open to all coherent points of view. A cursory glance reveals anti-Cunningham posts, anti-Urban Times News messages, and anti-anti-HCDO replies. Didn't NJN see this? : And, most importantly, what's Senator Kenny's point? The way it looks to me, all he's saying is that 'cause someone spoke nasty to him, he's taking his ball and going home. You have allowed yourself to become a Cunningham lackey who now even advertises in the UTN. Not everyone has the ability to stoop to the level of Jackson and Glazer and attack families, dead children, dead fathers, lie about sexual preferences and personal and family matters so your offer of anyone using this board in such a way is hollow. Only the lowlife Cunningham crew has the stomach for it. Never mind individual words. Did you allow the attack on Menendez's Dad the other day? Do you find that acceptable? Or on Kenny's dad? Or Smith's son? Or DeGise? Or Brennan? Or Gaughan? Or Lipski, at least until the little weasel flipped? When do YOU say that they have crossed the line? You are as responsible as any of them for the smut on this site. You may have made some new friends but Anthony you have lost all your old ones. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1700 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 09:31:31 Subject: Re: I was very disappointed with this NJN report. Get NJ you have balls the size of you head. You allowed this mess! ***************** End Of Article ****************** It's a bird! It's a plane! posted Message 1701 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 11:40:30 Subject: MAYOR MAN Mayor, Senate hopeful - and comic book hero Cunningham 'saves day' in campaign promo "It's a bird! It's a plane!" No, it's Mayor-Man - also known as Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, who is publishing his own comic book highlighting his résumé as a U.S. Marine, police captain and U.S. marshal as he rescues a child from a runaway car, tracks down an escaped fugitive and defuses a meeting between anti-and pro-war protesters. The premier issue of "The Adventures of Mayor-Man" opens with Mayor "Glen" Cunningham - his first name is spelled wrong on the first page - working alone late one rainy day, trying to "keep taxes low for the people" and "find more money for programs for kids," when his wife, known as "Lady One," bursts into his office. "Mayor, a young kid is in trouble. He needs your help," she says. "I think this is a job for Mayor-Man." With this, Lady One raises Cunningham's star-shaped marshal's badge above her head, triggering what the caption describes as "a powerful bolt of energy." "Suddenly, the energy bolt is Mayor Cunningham. The room shakes. His shoulders tremble, and ..." (after a dramatic turn of the page), "The mayor is transformed into 'Mayor-Man.'" The mayor then "blasts out of City Hall," flying through the roof and into the sky, Superman-style, before swooping down just in time to snatch a child from the path of a speeding car. In two other sequences, Mayor-Man catches an escaped prisoner and unifies a crowd hotly divided over the war in Iraq, telling them no matter what their feelings on the war, they have to support U.S. troops. The cover features a glossy, color illustration of a smiling Cunningham - wearing a suit and tie, but no cape - in front of Jersey City Hall. Inside, the black-and-white comic sequences are hand-drawn by Greg Malave, a city employee and Cunningham volunteer. It will not be confused with one of Marvel's professionally bound, dynamically sketched editions. Released amid Cunningham's controversial bid for state Senate and paid for by a campaign committee, the point of the book is to connect with children and their parents, Cunningham said. Bill Ayala, Cunningham's chief of staff, said the mayor wanted to do a comic book because "the mayor is the mayor for adults and children both," and because it's "a way to talk to kids about government." The 10,000 copies Cunningham plans to print will be distributed to places where children gather other than schools. Cunningham said he got the idea from a 4-year-old boy who was at an event with his mother two months ago. "She said, 'Do you know who this is?'" Cunningham recalled. "And he said yeah, and she said who? And he said, 'That's Mayor-Man!'" A copy provided to the media by the Mayor's Office has a disclaimer on the back cover, individually typewritten on a swath of whiteout, reading "Paid for by Cunningham for Mayor 2005." Beneath the whiteout, the message reads, "Paid for by the Jersey City Reform Democratic Organization." That is the name of the political action committee that has financed Cunningham's bid for state Senate this November. Cunningham, a Democrat, and his two Assembly running mates in the 31st District are being sued by rival Democrats they defeated in the June primary. The rival slate, led by longtime Democratic Assemblyman Joseph V. Doria Jr., has asserted that the Cunningham slate exceeded campaign spending limits during the primary. A state judge ruled this month that the state campaign spending law does not apply to primaries, but Doria's slate has appealed. Cunningham said the whiteout merely covered over an error by the printer, who had done other work for his legislative organization in the past, and assumed the book was for the slate also. Cunningham insisted that only his mayoral campaign had paid for it. He said he did not know the cost of the book. Roger Jones, a spokesman for the Doria slate, doubted the mayor's explanation, and he suggested the comic book was printed during the primary campaign. "How stupid can they be to white it out?" Jones said. "This is nothing more than a promotional piece for Cunningham running for the Senate." ***************** End Of Article ****************** He is such a jack-azz posted Message 1702 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 11:53:30 Subject: Re: MAYOR MAN : : The correct title should br Mayor-Ego ***************** End Of Article ****************** ROTFLMFHO posted Message 1703 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 12:18:55 Subject: Re: MAYOR MAN What issue is Lady 2-3-4-and 5 going to be in? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dudley-Do-Little posted Message 1704 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 19:25:57 Subject: MAYOR MAN sightings in Jersey City We have received a Mayor-Man sighting from Jersey City. A viewer who works in a nearby office building was reading the Breaking News update when she noticed Mayor-Man sitting on top of one of the towers of 101 Hudson Street. As she watched, three falcons, which the viewer described as "circling and shrieking," took off after what she described as the Mayor-Man We can only guess at the exact scenario, but it would appear that three juveniles were chasing after the Mayor-Man, possibly the female, in an attempt to cadge a meal was seen pecking at Lady-One. Although the young birds are probably Republicans, they are opportunistic and certainly not above flipping if the prospect of a meal presents itself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dudleydoright posted Message 1705 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 22:30:36 Subject: Re: MAYOR MAN sightings in Jersey City Mel Cuccitucci, who lives in a high-rise building that sits on the banks of the Hudson River in Edgewater, heard a thud at his terrace door.Going to investigate, he found what he described as "a very tired if somewhat woozy Mayor-Man" sitting on the astroturf floor of his terrace. For Mr. Cuccitucci, it was a scary sight. The Mayor-Man, regarded him quite calmly as he grabbed the phone to call the local police and picked up his camera to take a picture.. The police could not reach Lady-One because of the council meeting, so they decided to see if the Mayor-Man would recover on its own from its encounter with plate glass. Mayor-Man was charged with tresspassing and is due to appear in court at a latter date. ***************** End Of Article ****************** by TheSlumlord posted Message 1706 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 22:32:44 Subject: The Next Mayor Man Adventure! In this episode:Mayor Man uses his super power to force the MUA to finally fix the sewers! No flooded sidewalk and basement every time it rains more than an inch! Next, Mayor Man uses his super powers to finally close the friggin open drug marts off Oakland and Palisade Ave. After cleaning up the streets, Mayor Man actually comes up with a long term re-development plan for Jersey City, bringing back jobs and urban renewal to the most down-trodden neighborhoods! No wonder it has to be in a comic book. Its all fiction and will never happen. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dudleydoright posted Message 1707 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 22:34:51 Subject: A look into the future...year 2005 Stripped of his badge, his office, and his Lady-Nine, the usually bland, naive Mayor-Man is ready to "kick some serious UTN bootie." He becomes a masked man on a mission, setting out on his Tricycle to defeat the villains, win the heart of the fair maiden and bring peace back to the Pocono's....Hopefully, he won't screw it up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City County Referendum posted Message 1708 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 22:57:37 Subject: HCDO PEACE DEAL ONLY STEAL HALF The HCDO has decided in order to have peace with the Jersey City government,they must limit their theft of public funds down. In this spirit of charity they hope to stop the Jersey City separate county movement. In order to separate from Hudson County Jersey City needs only a public referendum and acceptance of the referendum by the city government. The State must allow the separation. ***************** End Of Article ****************** posted by the fashion police posted Message 1709 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 23:05:41 Subject: Re: MAYOR MAN sightings in Jersey City Please Mr. Mayor-Man take Lady One to the hair salon. She is in desperate need of a make over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MUSTO'S Revenge posted Message 1710 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 23:08:32 Subject: Jersey City County Referendum Jersey City generates 60% of all the revenue for the HCDO Machine by have a referendum to seperate as a seperate county the HCDO would be rendered powerless. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1711 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 23:10:09 Subject: Seperation Referendum JERSEY CITY MUST SEPERATE DEMAND THE Referendum. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :o) posted Message 1712 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 23:18:23 Subject: Re: HCDO PEACE DEAL ONLY STEAL HALF Now back to Mayor-Man ***************** End Of Article ****************** Keep it clean posted Message 1713 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 23:19:47 Subject: Re: MAYOR MAN sightings in Jersey City Now,now call Greg he will be happy to draw a new hair-style.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :o) posted Message 1714 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 24, 2003 at 23:22:14 Subject: Re: Jersey City County Referendum Now back to Mayor-man. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO WATCHER posted Message 1715 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 00:30:54 Subject: INDICTMENT EXPECTED TOMORROW BYE-BYE MR. SPEAKER. ADIOS ALBIO. CHECK IT OUT: http://www.njusao.org/break.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News OP-ED posted Message 1716 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 04:55:26 Subject: HUDSON DIXIECRATS IN ACTION-Jim Crow ’03 dok@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** NEED 2 KNOW posted Message 1717 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 08:26:27 Subject: KKK rally in Liberty State Park Oct. 3 The seeds of discontent Sunday, September 14, 2003 By MICHELLE GARCÍA HERALD NEWS White separatists, neo-notcees and groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan Nation have seized upon the issue of immigration as an opportunity to promote their agenda and are planning to marshal their forces at an October rally in Liberty State Park. Ultra-conservative radio talk show host Hal Turner has invited listeners to show up on Oct. 3 when 1,000 immigrants are due to stop in New Jersey as part of a national tour billed as the Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride. Turner broadcasts on short-wave radio and the Internet from his North Bergen home. The Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride aims to build support for undocumented workers to be granted legalized immigration status. The group's name is inspired by the 1960s-era campaign in which students traveled across the country in "freedom rides" to challenge racial segregation. The contemporary freedom riders will set off from nine cities en route to Washington, and the ride culminates with a rally in Queens. The freedom riders scheduled a stop in New Jersey at the invitation of Gov. James E. McGreevey, who will attend the rally, a governor's spokesman said. Turner, in an interview at his home Monday, explained why he has called for opposition to the freedom ride. "To brazenly rally and ask to be forgiven for breaking our laws is outrageous," Turner said, puffing a cigar in the lobby of his apartment building, and wearing a T-shirt that read, Hal Turner University and Mighty Whities. "This country was built by white people for white people." Turner's strategy of focusing on immigrants fits in with a larger movement among white separatists and neo-notcees who say issues of immigration serve as a springboard to voice their opposition to non-whites in New Jersey and the nation. Shaun Walker, a spokesman for the National Alliance, a self-described white separatist group based in West Virginia, said, "White people are uncomfortable having an openly racial issue, but people will bring up an immigration issue quite comfortably." Turner's supporters include the National Alliance, Aryan Nation and Ku Klux Klan. He says all three organizations have committed to attending his counter-demonstration in Liberty State Park. Walker confirmed that National Alliance members from the tri-state area and beyond would attend Turner's event. Mark Potok, a spokesman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups, said Turner is no run-of-the-mill racist. "What he says on the radio is incredibly and unusually vile for even the white supremacist scene," Potok said Saturday. "He has spoken often of such things as 'portable ... lynching machines.' That's about his level of discourse. His program is really characterized by that kind of talk. He's a committed neo-notcee, that's what he's about." As to whether Turner could rally people for a counter-demonstration, Potok said, "It's questionable. We'll see. "He's incredibly unreliable. He claims illness and he's absent very often," Potok said. "He's a media guy. He's a neo-Nzi who likes to hear himself talk." Freedom Ride organizers say they are aware of Turner's plans but will proceed with their scheduled stop at Liberty State Park. The State Park Rangers declined to comment about security. In a pre-emptive strike Saturday, a group of 15 people organized by the anti-racist group One People's Project tried to demonstrate in front of Turner's home but were thwarted by police who closed off access to the street. Protesters said the police refused to allow them to stand on the sidewalk with their placards without first obtaining a permit. Police officials would not comment. One People's Project spokesman Daryle Lamont Jenkins said, "We wanted to draw attention to Hal Turner and what he's trying to pull ... We don't want this element in our community and our state." Jenkins said the New Brunswick group hopes that public protest will galvanize local communities to drive the hate groups from their area. New Jersey is home to 19 hate groups, including the North Bergen chapter of the Aryan Nation, according to the latest report by the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center. The National Alliance has a West Milford chapter that meets in Elmwood Park. Police Chief Don Ingrasselino said that to date no violent outbursts have occurred in Elmwood Park between anti-racist activists and National Alliance members. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1718 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 09:25:45 Subject: HCDO adopts National Socialist Party Agenda With Arnold being elected in short in California the HCDO has adopted the program suggested by the National Socialist Party. This change in policy will allow them to host the KKK rally in full uniform. Goose Step a new Step for me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Republicans posted Message 1719 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 09:27:36 Subject: Elect Elise DiNardo For State Assembly in the 33rd District Born and raised in Jersey City, New Jersey, Elise DiNardo attended Saint Dominic Academy High School as well as Saint Peter's College, receiving her Bachelor of Science in Economics. Elise continues her aducation by attending Michigan State University and the Thomas M. Cooley Law School in Lansing, Michigan where she earned her Juris Doctor in 1988. Elise DiNardo continues to have a successful career as a trial attorney heading up her own firm for 11 years. She has made numerous television appearances as a legal analyst for MSNBC, CNN, CN8, and News 12 New Jersey. She has been a guest lecturer and speaker for students, professionals, and at training academies throughout New Jersey. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth Be Told posted Message 1720 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 11:55:40 Subject: Re: Elect Elise DiNardo For State Assembly in the 33rd District : Born and raised in Jersey City, New Jersey, Elise DiNardo attended Saint Dominic Academy High School as well as Saint Peter's College, receiving her Bachelor of Science in Economics. Elise continues her aducation by attending Michigan State University and the Thomas M. Cooley Law School in Lansing, Michigan where she earned her Juris Doctor in 1988. : Elise DiNardo continues to have a successful career as a trial attorney heading up her own firm for 11 years. She has made numerous television appearances as a legal analyst for MSNBC, CNN, CN8, and News 12 New Jersey. She has been a guest lecturer and speaker for students, professionals, and at training academies throughout New Jersey. And she helps murderer thugs like the dirt bag in yesterday's JJ walk the sreets to terrorize us. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Timothy Leary posted Message 1721 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 13:22:47 Subject: Far Out Man !!!! Are you people on drugs or what ? Can I have some of what you are smoking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Crabtree posted Message 1722 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 13:25:42 Subject: SEPARATION Someday you'll learn to spell young man !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** MAYOR MAN posted Message 1723 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 13:33:02 Subject: HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY ! Mr. Trouble never hangs around When he hears this mighty sound... "Here I come to save the day!" That means that Mayor Man is on the way. When there is a wrong to right Mayor Man will join the fight On the sea or on the land He gets the situation well in hand So though we are in danger We never despair Cause we know that where there's danger He is there! He is there! On the land! On the sea! In the air! We're not worryin' at all We're just listenin' for his call "Here I come to save the day!" That means that Mayor Man is on the way! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 1724 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 13:37:32 Subject: Re: HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY ! You have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands! So will there be a second verse to this ditty? : Mr. Trouble never hangs around : When he hears this mighty sound... : "Here I come to save the day!" : That means that Mayor Man is on the way. : When there is a wrong to right : Mayor Man will join the fight : On the sea or on the land : He gets the situation well in hand : So though we are in danger : We never despair : Cause we know that where there's danger : He is there! : He is there! : On the land! : On the sea! : In the air! : We're not worryin' at all : We're just listenin' for his call : "Here I come to save the day!" : That means that Mayor Man is on the way! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Skychopper posted Message 1725 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 13:56:46 Subject: Breaking news Mayor man was on his way back to city hall when he snagged his cape on one of the points on Lady Liberty's crown. Marines are on their way over to help him down. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jailhouserock posted Message 1726 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 15:23:09 Subject: Nice pic. Was this before or after. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Woolly Bully posted Message 1727 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 15:45:29 Subject: Re: Freedom of Speech : You move us Glazer...sniff, sniff! Was it good for you too? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Looks like during if you ask me posted Message 1728 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 15:52:52 Subject: Re: Nice pic. Looks like someone did it and ran. You really should take better care of yourself. It seems as though playing with bike gangs is not your speed slow down relax. : Was this before or after. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1729 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 15:55:50 Subject: The Don will be removed from the Bar shortly Imagine if the Don where removed from the bar could this be true? I imagine that target letters deals with AGs and what not are taking there toll on the Don. It is after all a great deal of work steal 200 million over the last 20 years. All those offshore accounts some many how do you keep track of it all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1730 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 15:58:05 Subject: HCDO has purchased passports for Nauru HCDO purchases passports for Nauru with no extradition treaty they are safe with all their ill-gotten gains. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1731 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:00:34 Subject: SPECIAL CHARTERED FLIGHT FOR THE HCDO WHERE OH WHERE HAVE THEY ALL GONE LEAVING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WITH A NEW PASSPORT TO LOCATIONS UNKNOWN. MY SOURCES SAY SOMEWHERE IN THE INDIAN OCEAN. THE BIG SURPRISE THEY HAVE NOT MADE PLANS TO TAKE THE FAMILY FOR THE TRIP. FORMER MEMBERS OF THE HCDO BOARD ARE SOON TO BECOME A RARE SPECIES. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1732 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:02:35 Subject: WITNESS PROCTECTION IN OFFSHORE LOCATIONS FOR AS LITTLE AS 15 GRAND A PASSPORT WITH NAURU CAN BE PURCHASED WITH A NEW NAME AND LARGE BALANCES IN THE OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS SMALL RESORT LOCATIONS IN THE INDIAN OCEAN ARE ALREADY BEING PREPARED. ROCKETMAN ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1733 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:05:49 Subject: Cunningham retires prior to taking senate office GLENN CUNNINGHAM WILL RESIGN FROM POLITICAL LIFE. HAVING DEFEATED THE HCDO GLENN WILL RETIRE AND NOT CONTRIBUTE HIS NAME TO THE GENERAL ELECTION. A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR MAYOR AND DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR STATE SENATE WILL BE ANNOUNCED SHORTLY. GLENN CUNNINGHAM HAS ACHIEVED HIS GOALS AND PLANS A HAPPY RETIREMENT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1734 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:07:59 Subject: UTN will be closed Due to the high cost of operating the UTN the paper will close its office and print its final edition shortly. The defeat of the HCDO has achieved all the goals they wished for. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1735 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:12:21 Subject: Our beloved Congressman Our beloved Congressman has been shortlisted for Vice President to run with Clark. It seems as though the slate will be clear shortly in all offices. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1736 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:14:06 Subject: Union City Starts a Separation Movement to another a county Union City will also file with its voters to start another county. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1737 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:15:44 Subject: Jailhouserock Revealed as Scarinci Operative Jailhouserock finally confirmation of the relationship between Jailhouserock and Scarinci. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1738 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:17:15 Subject: HCDO trying to change County Charter to stop Separation The HCDO is trying to have the County Charter changed to not allow a separation of it member cities. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 1739 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:21:11 Subject: Bayonne Starts a Separation movement who will be left Bayonne Starts a Separation movement who will be left ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Crabtree posted Message 1740 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:42:04 Subject: Congratulations You spelled it right. You get an A. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mayor Man posted Message 1741 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:45:45 Subject: Re: HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY ! : You have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands! : So will there be a second verse to this ditty? Sorry, Mighty Mouse would only sell me the first verse. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Life is good posted Message 1742 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:48:21 Subject: Re: UTN will be closed Horray! no more Glazer!. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Life is good posted Message 1743 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 16:50:47 Subject: Re: Nice pic. Who? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jailhouserock posted Message 1744 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 17:01:56 Subject: Re: Nice pic. Me a biker babe? No way, I may break a nail! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jailhouserock posted Message 1745 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 17:06:26 Subject: Re: UTN will be closed It's a shame to waste such talent writing for a rag! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dudleydoright posted Message 1746 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 17:20:34 Subject: Re: Cunningham retires prior to taking senate office Stripped of his badge, his office, and his Lady-Nine, the usually bland, naive Mayor-Man is ready to "kick some serious UTN bootie." He becomes a masked man on a mission, setting out on his Tricycle to defeat the villains, win the heart of the fair maiden and bring peace back to the Pocono's....Hopefully, he won't screw it up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THREE LETER MAN posted Message 1747 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 18:10:11 Subject: RUSSO INDICTED Former Hoboken Mayor Anthony Russo was indicted today on bribery and extortion charges. Russo was defeated for re-election in 2001 and won a comeback bid for City Councilman in May. He resigned that post just a few weeks after taking office. (09/25/03) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Howie posted Message 1748 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 18:14:00 Subject: RUSSO is a good guy he tried to run over bernie kenny. : Former Hoboken Mayor Anthony Russo was indicted today on bribery and extortion charges. Russo was defeated for re-election in 2001 and won a comeback bid for City Councilman in May. He resigned that post just a few weeks after taking office. (09/25/03) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1749 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 18:31:37 Subject: Re: Cunningham retires prior to taking senate office We should be so fortunate ***************** End Of Article ****************** MUSTO'S REVENGE posted Message 1750 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 20:23:40 Subject: MESSAGE OF THE DAY MESSAGE OF THE DAY TOO OFTEN, WE LOSE SIGHT OF LIFE'S SIMPLE PLEASURES. REMEMBER, WHEN SOMEONE ANNOYS YOU IT TAKES 42 MUSCLES IN YOUR FACE TO FROWN BUT, IT ONLY TAKES 4 MUSCLES TO EXTEND YOUR ARM AND ?ITCH-SLAP THE MOTHERZUCKER IN THE HEAD. PASS IT ON. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1751 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 20:30:11 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jailhouserock posted Message 1752 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 22:43:15 Subject: Re: Jailhouserock Revealed as Scarinci Operative How wrong you are! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Word to live by posted Message 1753 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2003 at 23:21:27 Subject: Anthony just a reminder The purpose of this Message Board is to provide a vehicle so that people can express their opinions/observations (anonymously, if they so desire) on Hudson County Politics -- AND to be able to see what others think: a conversation. Anybody who attempts to flood the Board (in effect, denying others the opportunity to post), will find their messages deleted. WELL LOOK BELOW ...WE WILL ASSUME THAT YOU FEEL IT'S JUST A PUDDLE NOT FLOODING. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 1754 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 05:27:46 Subject: MAYOR MENENDEZ AIDS TERRORISTS AND MURDERER- KENNY, JR. PLEADS IGNORANCE, SAYS HE “DIDN’T KNOW” UTN NEWS ANALYSIS ***************** End Of Article ****************** BooYah!!! posted Message 1755 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 07:39:12 Subject: Re: MAYOR MENENDEZ AIDS TERRORISTS AND MURDERER- KENNY, JR. PLEADS IGNORANCE, SAYS HE “DIDN’T KNOW” : UTN NEWS ANALYSIS So? Murder, terrorism, graft. What about pedophelia? Necrophelia, moral terpitude, recidivism, drug and alcohol dependency, domestic violence, drunk driving, income tax evasion, theft of services. What about the total sleaze factor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Omega 7 posted Message 1756 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 08:14:15 Subject: Re: MAYOR MENENDEZ AIDS TERRORISTS AND MURDERER- KENNY, JR. PLEADS IGNORANCE, SAYS HE “DIDN’T KNOW” http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delacova/belligerence/remon.htm : UTN NEWS ANALYSIS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wit Nit posted Message 1757 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 08:20:50 Subject: Re: Anthony just a reminder : The purpose of this Message Board is to provide a vehicle so that people can express their opinions/observations (anonymously, if they so desire) on Hudson County Politics -- : AND to be able to see what others think: a conversation. Anybody who attempts to flood the Board (in effect, denying others the opportunity to post), will find their messages deleted. : WELL LOOK BELOW ...WE WILL ASSUME THAT YOU FEEL IT'S JUST A PUDDLE NOT FLOODING. Anthony is under his rock at the present time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1758 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 08:23:47 Subject: Alice Cooper: I Love the Dead First off, finish your coffee. You're mixing up the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle of your own story. The Honorable State Senator Bernard Kenny was fuming that HCDO (mis)leadership were being described with the words "pedophile" and "necrophiliac." (As an aside, that charge is not true. If Kenny is going to continue to contend otherwise, he better come up with sources toot sweet. It's a crying disgrace that both the JJ and NJN allowed him to make an unsubstantiated charge like that.) He wasn't calling the opposition child molesters and corpse lovers. Or are the facts irrelevant here? It couldn't be -- in the finest tradition of Goebbels -- a Big Lie just intended to confuse the minds of the voters? And what is this thing with necrophilia, anyhow? Is it some sort of regression to the days of wine and Alice Cooper? Are charges of Billion Dollar Baby perversions right around the corner? And what's going one with that big snake? Anybody biting the heads offa chickens? : : UTN NEWS ANALYSIS : So? Murder, terrorism, graft. What about pedophelia? Necrophelia, moral terpitude, recidivism, drug and alcohol dependency, domestic violence, drunk driving, income tax evasion, theft of services. What about the total sleaze factor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1759 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 09:06:27 Subject: Think B I G! And why stop there? Let's throw around that Moby Dick of a great American false accusations -- Devil Worship! Here's some ammunition for ya: many years ago I lived across the street from where the Exorcist was filmed! : First off, finish your coffee. You're mixing up the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle of your own story. The Honorable State Senator Bernard Kenny was fuming that HCDO (mis)leadership were being described with the words "pedophile" and "necrophiliac." (As an aside, that charge is not true. If Kenny is going to continue to contend otherwise, he better come up with sources toot sweet. It's a crying disgrace that both the JJ and NJN allowed him to make an unsubstantiated charge like that.) He wasn't calling the opposition child molesters and corpse lovers. Or are the facts irrelevant here? It couldn't be -- in the finest tradition of Goebbels -- a Big Lie just intended to confuse the minds of the voters? : And what is this thing with necrophilia, anyhow? Is it some sort of regression to the days of wine and Alice Cooper? Are charges of Billion Dollar Baby perversions right around the corner? And what's going one with that big snake? Anybody biting the heads offa chickens? : : : : UTN NEWS ANALYSIS : : So? Murder, terrorism, graft. What about pedophelia? Necrophelia, moral terpitude, recidivism, drug and alcohol dependency, domestic violence, drunk driving, income tax evasion, theft of services. What about the total sleaze factor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1760 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 09:07:53 Subject: Patriotic Slogan : Anthony is under his rock at the present time. Don't Tread On Me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1761 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 09:11:01 Subject: Re: Alice Cooper: I Love the Dead Could it be that the Hudson Dem Machine has been using the graveyard for votes for so long, that the HCDO is like now totally fixated on the deceased? : First off, finish your coffee. You're mixing up the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle of your own story. The Honorable State Senator Bernard Kenny was fuming that HCDO (mis)leadership were being described with the words "pedophile" and "necrophiliac." (As an aside, that charge is not true. If Kenny is going to continue to contend otherwise, he better come up with sources toot sweet. It's a crying disgrace that both the JJ and NJN allowed him to make an unsubstantiated charge like that.) He wasn't calling the opposition child molesters and corpse lovers. Or are the facts irrelevant here? It couldn't be -- in the finest tradition of Goebbels -- a Big Lie just intended to confuse the minds of the voters? : And what is this thing with necrophilia, anyhow? Is it some sort of regression to the days of wine and Alice Cooper? Are charges of Billion Dollar Baby perversions right around the corner? And what's going one with that big snake? Anybody biting the heads offa chickens? : : : : UTN NEWS ANALYSIS : : So? Murder, terrorism, graft. What about pedophelia? Necrophelia, moral terpitude, recidivism, drug and alcohol dependency, domestic violence, drunk driving, income tax evasion, theft of services. What about the total sleaze factor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** TRUTH will PREVAIL posted Message 1762 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 10:33:10 Subject: Great Post !! Very Informative. Thanks for the informative posting. They can't hide from the truth. ***************** End Of Article ****************** yo mamma posted Message 1763 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 12:27:13 Subject: Re: INDICTMENT EXPECTED TOMORROW Russo was one of yours Stevie-Poo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens, The Urban Times News posted Message 1764 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 18:07:01 Subject: INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP jstevens@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** The girls posted Message 1765 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 19:01:10 Subject: Re: INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP Javier is a hotty! Are you a hotty Steve?... opps... we mean "Jay" ***************** End Of Article ****************** The girls posted Message 1765 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 19:01:10 Subject: Re: INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP Javier is a hotty! Are you a hotty Steve?... opps... we mean "Jay" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Summer is Gone Musto's Revenge Retires posted Message 1766 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 22:44:59 Subject: Life in the Hamptons It is now time to go back to work having spent the whole summer having parties in the Hamptons. This summer was the end of an age as the world has gotten poorer and mean. It seems we where prefectly happy to accept political corruption when we had money and could pay the bills. In this hard economic enviroment we find it difficult to accept the excesses of the politicians that are over paid for little or no work and steal on top of that. The hard times are on us like white on rice. So now the mean streets await us all. We need as democrats to ban together regardless of what has happened before for the good of all of us. We are in for some tough times real tough times. So it is with some regret I call off my own personal war with the HCDO live and let live. Musto's Revenge Retires. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Return posted Message 1767 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 22:49:03 Subject: Organized Crime creates jobs and is a growth industry Organized Crime should be studied because it creates jobs and grows quickly with little or no support from the government. If government promoted organized crime it might solve the lack of good paying jobs. In fact if one area became good at organized crime they might export it and create wealth in new places. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Return posted Message 1768 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 22:52:56 Subject: Decriminalize Drugs and reduce crime If Hudson County could go soft on drugs and attract the recreational users incomes would interest and jobs would be created. Decriminalizing drugs would reduce the prison rolls and allow for increased taxes if the sale where regulated and taxed. Jersey City itself might itself in an economic boom. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Quage posted Message 1769 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2003 at 23:08:18 Subject: Re: Life in the Hamptons That is a good thing ..put your talent to good use..not this crap ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get Real posted Message 1770 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2003 at 02:03:35 Subject: Re: Life in the Hamptons Hamptons? This is Hudson County Glazer, Not Westbury! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Return posted Message 1771 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2003 at 07:57:05 Subject: Victim of love What could I do what could I say money, sex, power, and a car. It was a longtime ago I was just a young lawyer scrapping my way through the dirty streets of Union City when I found my love. She was a large rather imposing women dressed in the garb of a common harlot. Our eyes found each others that mist filled night and we find we walk the same path still. The deal is her name sometimes under the table, sometimes on top. Shes a lover of sleath and can be found by those that look into the law without considering intent. Crafted from the dreams of proverty and hopelessness she holds my hand and will place me in my grave. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto' s Return posted Message 1772 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2003 at 08:21:13 Subject: Creatures of the dark Anything worth knowing is worth keeping secret. ***************** End Of Article ****************** C.I.A. posted Message 1773 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2003 at 09:54:22 Subject: Re: Victim of love Can someone please fill the rest of us in on what is going on out here. All these secret messages, what gives? We don't want to pry but: WHO WHAT WHERE WHEN WHY & HOW? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1774 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2003 at 10:52:36 Subject: Re: Creatures of the dark That's why I rarely believe the things I read out here. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1775 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2003 at 11:26:21 Subject: Your way out of line John and Bobby Kennedy were great politicians despite being the sons of a criminal. Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger. Justice Cardozo is perhaps the greatest legal figure in US history despite the fact that his father was a corrupt judge. Senator Kenny is the son of convicted criminal, yet that doesn't prevent him from doing his job. Ascribing a parents character flaws to their children is absurd. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Whatever You Say posted Message 1776 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2003 at 13:11:06 Subject: Re: Your way out of line-Way out of your line You are right and we are wrong. You win. These are great leaders viciously maligned by the UTN gang. Kenny complained that these reports were inaccurate. The point is they are true. Menendez said it is alright to break the law and commit murder as long as you feel it is in the name of a good cause. Then he tried to weasel out of having said it. They are both sociopathic liars. But you are right. Bernie Jr. is not a crook and a liar because of what his daddy did. Bernie Jr. is a crook and a liar because of what he did and continues to do. But you obviously do not care about that. As long as you invoke the name of Bobby and John Kennedy, it is alright. : John and Bobby Kennedy were great politicians despite being the sons of a criminal. Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger. Justice Cardozo is perhaps the greatest legal figure in US history despite the fact that his father was a corrupt judge. Senator Kenny is the son of convicted criminal, yet that doesn't prevent him from doing his job. Ascribing a parents character flaws to their children is absurd. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1777 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2003 at 14:21:09 Subject: Re: Your way out of line-Way out of your line I understand your point. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1778 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2003 at 14:40:43 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get Smart posted Message 1779 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2003 at 14:57:53 Subject: Re: Victim of love Again we ask---what is with all these strange posts? WHO?WHAT?WHERE?WHWN and WHY? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Return posted Message 1780 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2003 at 20:09:06 Subject: Something odd in the air My sense tells me that the mystical flow of energy has been disturbed and must be fixed. Who will fill the power vacuum that the HCDO leadership is leaving in its mad suicidal rush to conviction. Is there a new way to re-establish the HCDO power based without a corrupt leadership? Perhaps not since the spoils of victory tend to corrupt the victor. So maybe it is time to start hounding the next leadership before they actually take the throne? It makes sense since the seeds of a new leadership are sown in the previous regime. If those that will fill the rolls of leadership are of a similar nature it may take another 30 years for a new leadership to emerge. This endless cycle of corruption seems un-breakable. In the end the only ones that suffer are those that need the vital services. Since the current victors seem to be those that may have suffered from corruption in the past the sense of irony overcomes me. Whatshall I do go on the attack against the new victors since the old leadership is all but dead (Politically Speaking) or rather suggest that honest none machine leaders be encouraged to confront any and all leaders that are machine appointed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joe Doria Has Gas posted Message 1781 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2003 at 22:31:36 Subject: Something odd in the air !!! : My sense tells me that the mystical flow of energy has been disturbed and must be fixed. Who will fill the power vacuum that the HCDO leadership is leaving in its mad suicidal rush to conviction. Is there a new way to re-establish the HCDO power based without a corrupt leadership? Perhaps not since the spoils of victory tend to corrupt the victor. So maybe it is time to start hounding the next leadership before they actually take the throne? It makes sense since the seeds of a new leadership are sown in the previous regime. If those that will fill the rolls of leadership are of a similar nature it may take another 30 years for a new leadership to emerge. This endless cycle of corruption seems un-breakable. In the end the only ones that suffer are those that need the vital services. Since the current victors seem to be those that may have suffered from corruption in the past the sense of irony overcomes me. Whatshall I do go on the attack against the new victors since the old leadership is all but dead (Politically Speaking) or rather suggest that honest none machine leaders be encouraged to confront any and all leaders that are machine appointed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Return posted Message 1782 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 09:13:15 Subject: Standing in line to get ripped off Well as luck would have it the taxes levied by Hudson county have increased and the services have gone down. How can this be in the age of the consumer you might ask yourself? Well the answer is simple Hudson County has never emerged from the age of the serf. The Lords of the County take as they see fit and leave no rock unturned for their greed. Now the only question is what rock are you hiding under or do you simply stand in line take a number and wait for them to take everything you need or have. This is why the County must become separate entities because the skim off the top has gotten to the bottom of the barrel. You cannot steal everything. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Free Willy posted Message 1783 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 09:56:23 Subject: Uncle Harvey Leads the Parade of Clowns Sending in the clowns? Between the lines Sending in the clowns? September 28, 2003 The Hudson County Democratic Organization's selection of Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith to go to Trenton as the temporary state senator makes a lot of sense. What better way can you torture the loser of a primary election than to show him exactly what he'll miss when the winner of November's general election takes office in January? Better still, why not put a big red nose on Mr. Smith, issue him some floppy shoes and a multi-colored hat so that none of the other legislators in Trenton can possibly mistake him for anything but one more clown from Hudson County? How better can the HCDO better show their respect for the dignified Mr. Smith than by rubbing his nose in his loss? Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham may be slightly stung by the fact that he will likely have to wait until December to get the seat, but he knows he will get the seat in the end and that Mr. Smith will have the distinction of having served as Hudson County's lame duck senator. Why shouldn't we do this to all losers of political conflict - make certain the pain of their loss gets down deep into the bones so they may never recover? And the HCDO people who did this are Mr. Smith's friends? With friends like that, as the saying goes, maybe Smith should look to his enemies. This is being touted as a battle between Rep. Bob Menendez and Cunningham, a personal feud that has the county's mayors fuming because when it comes to the bottom line, each mayor is paying the tab in election financing. The truth is: it is not about personalities. It is about contracts. Which contractor gets his or her piece of the huge Hudson County pie? The fight that will ultimately humiliate Mr. Smith and others can be easily connected to firms like Kenny & Florio, Scarinci & Hollenbeck, Ernst & Young, Wenier-Lesniak as it can to Cunningham-Menendez. And in the battle over the old order, established under the dictates of former County Executive Robert Janiszewski, and the new order, emerging under Jersey City's first African American mayor, no personalities matter, only money does. Comic book heroes? Cunningham became a comic book hero last week, setting a precedent for Hudson County politics. We can just imagine the comics that might be made based on other politicos. Bayonne Mayor Joe Doria: the Magnificent Mathematics Man, perpetually counting votes to see if they come out differently. He lost to Lou Manzo in the primary by a scant 200 votes. North Bergen Mayor Nicholas Sacco: He doesn't have any superpowers, just multiple alternative identities. Whereas Superman was sometimes Clark Kent, Sacco is sometimes mayor, sometimes senator and sometimes assistant superintendent of schools. Union City Mayor Brian Stack: I Can Do It All Man. Stack proves that you don't have to ever delegate authority - a true superhero provided he doesn't have a heart attack first. Secaucus Mayor Dennis Elwell: I Got Land For Development Man. With the last available space for massive redevelopment, Elwell is among the strongest superheroes in Hudson County. West New York Mayor Albio Sires: Now You See Him-Now You Don't Man. Where Sires is at any given point in time makes him the equivalent of Hudson County's invisible man. Weehawken Mayor Richard Turner: Who Am I Today Man: Dealing with Turner is like dealing with characters in a Pepsi commercial. You know, the ones who zip off masks to become different people. Sometimes Turner is Turner, the mayor of Weehawken; but sometimes he's the power behind other mayors, stepping into West New York when no one can find Sires. Sometimes he's in his role as a member of the state Local Finance Board where his is the friendly face for petitioners from places like Hoboken or Secaucus. Hoboken Mayor Dave Roberts: How Did I Get to Be Mayor Man: Roberts is Hudson County's equivalent of the Marathon Man in a race in which he is the only contestant, and yet he is convinced he is going to lose. But to whom? The list could, of course, be extended to other public officials such as County Executive Tom DeGise who might be Swimming With Sharks Man. His comic adventure is to keep from having his flesh ripped apart by the vicious political world into which he was elected. Rep. Bob Menendez might well be All My Political Friends Really Hate Me Man, for all the loyal supporters who would really want to be supporting someone else. And last but not least, Gov. Jim McGreevey, who claims Hudson County as his home away ., as How Else Can I Screw Up Man. Since coming to office, McGreevey has made every wrong decision possible, surrounding himself with a class of characters that have inspired more potential flack that most governors before him except for Jim Florio. Shooting the messenger Last week this column took Hoboken's Michael Lenz to task for failing a portion of his test to become a CFO. As an open critic of Hoboken's finances, Lenz is fair game for such attacks. This does not mean he is wrong in his criticism, or that failing one of the most difficult tests in state is anything to be ashamed of. The fact that his critics choose to highlight the test rather than answer his questions may merely show how clever they are at diversion. It does not take a rocket scientist to know that if a city spends more money than it takes in, taxes will eventually go up. Lenz and others have pointed to the basic fact that Hoboken's refinancing keeps taxes down during a mayoral election year, but at the expense of future years when taxpayers will have to pay more. And that the basic solution isn't to refinance, it is to stop spending. This, of course, is the real challenge to Roberts' leadership. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Is Cunnigham Clean is the Question posted Message 1784 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 12:48:30 Subject: Re: Uncle Harvey Leads the Parade of Clowns ONE MUST REMEMBER THAT GLENN CUNNINGHAM COMES FROM THE RANKS OF THE HCDO AS WELL AS BOBBY BOY.. THE BOBBY BOY AND GLENN WHATSUP HAVE BEEN PART OF THE CORRUPTION ITS LIKE THIS YOU SEE THEY ALL FEED FROM THE SAME TROUGH : Sending in the clowns? : Between the lines : Sending in the clowns? : : September 28, 2003 : : The Hudson County Democratic Organization's selection of Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith to go to Trenton as the temporary state senator makes a lot of sense. : What better way can you torture the loser of a primary election than to show him exactly what he'll miss when the winner of November's general election takes office in January? : Better still, why not put a big red nose on Mr. Smith, issue him some floppy shoes and a multi-colored hat so that none of the other legislators in Trenton can possibly mistake him for anything but one more clown from Hudson County? : How better can the HCDO better show their respect for the dignified Mr. Smith than by rubbing his nose in his loss? : Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham may be slightly stung by the fact that he will likely have to wait until December to get the seat, but he knows he will get the seat in the end and that Mr. Smith will have the distinction of having served as Hudson County's lame duck senator. : Why shouldn't we do this to all losers of political conflict - make certain the pain of their loss gets down deep into the bones so they may never recover? : And the HCDO people who did this are Mr. Smith's friends? With friends like that, as the saying goes, maybe Smith should look to his enemies. This is being touted as a battle between Rep. Bob Menendez and Cunningham, a personal feud that has the county's mayors fuming because when it comes to the bottom line, each mayor is paying the tab in election financing. : The truth is: it is not about personalities. It is about contracts. Which contractor gets his or her piece of the huge Hudson County pie? : The fight that will ultimately humiliate Mr. Smith and others can be easily connected to firms like Kenny & Florio, Scarinci & Hollenbeck, Ernst & Young, Wenier-Lesniak as it can to Cunningham-Menendez. : And in the battle over the old order, established under the dictates of former County Executive Robert Janiszewski, and the new order, emerging under Jersey City's first African American mayor, no personalities matter, only money does. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FRIED CHICKEN posted Message 1785 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 12:56:22 Subject: BOBBY BOY AND RERUN WILL FALL SHORTLY THE AMAZING SITCOM DUO OF BOBBY BOY AND RERUN WILL FALL ALONG WITH THE HCDO SINCE TAKING CONSULTING CONTRACTS OR ACTING AS A LOBBY FOR CERTAIN DOWNTOWN JERSEY CITY COMMERCIAL VENUES IS ALSO CORRUPT. SO WHILE THE HCDO HAS ALL BUT KISSED THEIR FUTURE GOOD BYE SO HAS BOBBY BOY AND RERUN. AFTER ALL GOLDMAN SACHS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY TO BE REPRESENTED BUT THEY DO AND HOW MANY OTHERS PAY BIG MONEY TO OPERATE IN JERSEY CITY? COULDN'T THAT LEVERAGE BE USED FOR THE CITIZENS RATHER THAN LINING THE POCKETS OF BOBBY BOY AND FUNDING ELECTIONS FOR RERUN. THIS IS THE SAME OLD GAME THE WAR STARTED BECAUSE THEY ALL WANTED A PIECE OF THE ACTION NOTHING MORE. CUNNINGHAM SHOULD BE THROWN OUT AS WELL AS BOBBY BE INVESTIGATED. BUT WAIT THEY ARE ALSO ON THE LIST OF THOSE THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED SUSPECT. HAS BOBBY BOY CHECKED HIS OFFICE FOR SCANS LATELY? OR HIS CAR, HOME OR FORGOTTEN WHO HE WAS BEST BUDDIES WITH WARD F HAS ITS OWN SECRETS ALONG SIMILAR LINES. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1786 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 14:08:11 Subject: Omega 7 Defense Fund - Hudson Dispatch, Wednesday, October 7, 1987 Wednesday, October 7, 1987 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Parabellum posted Message 1787 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 14:09:59 Subject: Re: BOBBY BOY AND RERUN WILL FALL SHORTLY --Please hold your breath! You with all the information. This is WAR. Do not hold back. All's fair. Take you best shot. Bring on your disclosures and revelations. Tell the world all about these things. Now's the time. So what do you have to tell us? We cannot wait to hear. : THE AMAZING SITCOM DUO OF BOBBY BOY AND RERUN WILL FALL ALONG WITH THE HCDO SINCE TAKING CONSULTING CONTRACTS OR ACTING AS A LOBBY FOR CERTAIN DOWNTOWN JERSEY CITY COMMERCIAL VENUES IS ALSO CORRUPT. SO WHILE THE HCDO HAS ALL BUT KISSED THEIR FUTURE GOOD BYE SO HAS BOBBY BOY AND RERUN. AFTER ALL GOLDMAN SACHS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY TO BE REPRESENTED BUT THEY DO AND HOW MANY OTHERS PAY BIG MONEY TO OPERATE IN JERSEY CITY? COULDN'T THAT LEVERAGE BE USED FOR THE CITIZENS RATHER THAN LINING THE POCKETS OF BOBBY BOY AND FUNDING ELECTIONS FOR RERUN. THIS IS THE SAME OLD GAME THE WAR STARTED BECAUSE THEY ALL WANTED A PIECE OF THE ACTION NOTHING MORE. CUNNINGHAM SHOULD BE THROWN OUT AS WELL AS BOBBY BE INVESTIGATED. BUT WAIT THEY ARE ALSO ON THE LIST OF THOSE THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED SUSPECT. HAS BOBBY BOY CHECKED HIS OFFICE FOR SCANS LATELY? OR HIS CAR, HOME OR FORGOTTEN WHO HE WAS BEST BUDDIES WITH WARD F HAS ITS OWN SECRETS ALONG SIMILAR LINES. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Duke's Up posted Message 1788 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 14:12:07 Subject: Re: Uncle Harvey Leads the Parade of Clowns Thank you, oh sage of the obscure hints. Out 'em if you got 'em : ONE MUST REMEMBER THAT GLENN CUNNINGHAM COMES FROM THE RANKS OF THE HCDO AS WELL AS BOBBY BOY.. THE BOBBY BOY AND GLENN WHATSUP HAVE BEEN PART OF THE CORRUPTION ITS LIKE THIS YOU SEE THEY ALL FEED FROM THE SAME TROUGH : : : Sending in the clowns? : : Between the lines : : Sending in the clowns? : : : : September 28, 2003 : : : : The Hudson County Democratic Organization's selection of Jersey City Council President L. Harvey Smith to go to Trenton as the temporary state senator makes a lot of sense. : : What better way can you torture the loser of a primary election than to show him exactly what he'll miss when the winner of November's general election takes office in January? : : Better still, why not put a big red nose on Mr. Smith, issue him some floppy shoes and a multi-colored hat so that none of the other legislators in Trenton can possibly mistake him for anything but one more clown from Hudson County? : : How better can the HCDO better show their respect for the dignified Mr. Smith than by rubbing his nose in his loss? : : Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham may be slightly stung by the fact that he will likely have to wait until December to get the seat, but he knows he will get the seat in the end and that Mr. Smith will have the distinction of having served as Hudson County's lame duck senator. : : Why shouldn't we do this to all losers of political conflict - make certain the pain of their loss gets down deep into the bones so they may never recover? : : And the HCDO people who did this are Mr. Smith's friends? With friends like that, as the saying goes, maybe Smith should look to his enemies. This is being touted as a battle between Rep. Bob Menendez and Cunningham, a personal feud that has the county's mayors fuming because when it comes to the bottom line, each mayor is paying the tab in election financing. : : The truth is: it is not about personalities. It is about contracts. Which contractor gets his or her piece of the huge Hudson County pie? : : The fight that will ultimately humiliate Mr. Smith and others can be easily connected to firms like Kenny & Florio, Scarinci & Hollenbeck, Ernst & Young, Wenier-Lesniak as it can to Cunningham-Menendez. : : And in the battle over the old order, established under the dictates of former County Executive Robert Janiszewski, and the new order, emerging under Jersey City's first African American mayor, no personalities matter, only money does. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Typical Menendez posted Message 1789 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 15:01:23 Subject: Leopard Does Not Change It's Spots Despite all attempts to do otherwise - The Leopard can not change it's spots. : Wednesday, October 7, 1987 ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1790 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 17:26:18 Subject: Menendez calls report a 'mischaracterization' - Hudson Dispatch, October 8, 1987 ISSUES STATEMENT ***************** End Of Article ****************** O'zapft is! posted Message 1791 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 19:27:10 Subject: HCDO get your lederhosen ready its almost Oktoberfest time Oktoberfest is all most upon us so all you good members of the Furhers Party the HCDO which means each and everyone of you its party time. Maybe you can play your favorite game of kick the Jew. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1792 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 20:01:15 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I've got a name posted Message 1793 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 20:12:00 Subject: Like the pine trees lining the winding road Many years ago the I had the rug pulled from underneath me after several decades of self pity I'v decided to seek revenge on all those that pulled so heavily on the rug I once stood on. You see it was those I trusted and placed in positions of power that destroyed me. HCDO members you know who I am and what I'm going to do to you, but wait it gets better I did from my grave. It is amazing how documents previously unknown can change the future plans of those un-aware of the ramifications of their actions. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dry Cleaner posted Message 1794 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 20:15:50 Subject: Secrets of Ward F A little known fact is the Dry Cleaners of Ward F collected the bets and the numbers for organized crime. The unofficial network of money laundering Dry Cleaners provided a safe haven for illegal events. In addition to providing microfinance to organized crime Dry Cleaners served as fencing operations for the small time crook. Now who might be the largest Dry Cleaner in Ward F maybe someone who thinks their time in the sun has come? ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1795 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 20:17:51 Subject: Re: Secrets of Ward F Hey, didn't you say Bobby Jackson owned alot of dry cleaners...I get it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1796 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 20:19:00 Subject: Re: Like the pine trees lining the winding road Enough with this crap already! ***************** End Of Article ****************** FRIED CHICKEN posted Message 1797 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 20:28:56 Subject: Bust a Move Bobby Boy hates white folks BOBBY BOY IS A RACIST OF THE OTHER KIND SO IS GLENN IS SIDE KICK RERUN. WHILE THEY ARE SLURPING DOWN RIPPLE AND EATING FRIED CHICKEN THEY MAKE REALLY BAD JOKES ABOUT ALL THE WHITE GIRLS THEY MAKE PREFORM TO KEEP THEIR JOBS. BUST A MOVE BOBBY BOY IS JUST A PLAIN OLD FASHION I HATE WHITE FOLK TYPE OF GUY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FRIED CHICKEN posted Message 1798 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 20:36:16 Subject: PLANTATION POLITICS HAS TURNED INTO ANIMAL FARM THE FORMER INMATES ARE NOW RUNNING THE ISANE ASYLUM BUST A MOVE BOBBY AND RERUN ARE OUT TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD AND PURGE ALL THOSE IN THEIR WAY. DO NOT THINK THINGS HAVE CHANGED. THE ONLY CHANGE IS WHO COLLECTS THE MONEY THATS ALL. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1799 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 20:39:37 Subject: Re: Bust a Move Bobby Boy hates white folks Don't post stuff like this. Let's let them sound like azzholes all on their own. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FRIED CHICKEN posted Message 1800 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 20:46:38 Subject: Jersey City Irish Festival NOT WELCOMED BY MAYOR THE MAYOR AND HIS OFFICE HAVE GONE OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE IT HARD FOR THE ORGANIZERS OF Jersey City Irish Festival. IT IS ALL PART OF HIS HONORS PLAN TO STOP ANY ETHNIC EXPRESSION OTHER THAN ONES HE APPROVES OF. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FRIED CHICKEN posted Message 1801 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 20:55:22 Subject: Sigmadom under the banner of the Xi Tau Chapter is a racist organization TYRONE BATES IS MEMBER OF THIS SECRET SOCIETY THAT CLAIMS TO HATE WHITE PEOPLE AND STRIVE FOR THEIR DEFEAT IN ALL MATTERS. EVEN IF WARD F IS REPRESENTED BY MR. BATES THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT JERSEY CITY HAS ANOTHER FORM OF RACISM. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Republican posted Message 1802 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 21:03:15 Subject: Bret Schundler for Mayor We need to get over the Democratic Regime even if it changes Glenn Cunningham will be investigated and shipped away maybe trying a Republican Mayor might help. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tax and Spend Corrupt Democrats posted Message 1803 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2003 at 21:09:29 Subject: Stop the madness stop the democrats If it moves, Democrats tax it; and when it stops, Democrats subsidize it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1804 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 05:51:05 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Welcome to Anthony's Port-O-John Wall posted Message 1805 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 08:55:11 Subject: Re: Welcome to the Message Board. : Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pandora's Box posted Message 1806 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 09:20:57 Subject: NOW is the Hour ! DO IT !! The TIME is NOW ! ! ! Do It ! : Many years ago the I had the rug pulled from underneath me after several decades of self pity I'v decided to seek revenge on all those that pulled so heavily on the rug I once stood on. You see it was those I trusted and placed in positions of power that destroyed me. HCDO members you know who I am and what I'm going to do to you, but wait it gets better I did from my grave. It is amazing how documents previously unknown can change the future plans of those un-aware of the ramifications of their actions. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Letters to the Editor posted Message 1807 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 11:11:25 Subject: Cunningham's biggest failing: Dividing the city Cunningham's biggest failing: Dividing the city I can totally understand how two elected officials playing "dueling letters" can become tedious to the public, but a lie left unchallenged can be accepted as fact. So I reluctantly must respond to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's latest attack upon me, my office and my organization. County government has suffered some huge blows in the last several years. Misdeeds by its elected leaders and political feuds have dominated the headlines. It is easy and convenient to beat up on county government in order to deflect scrutiny on the failings of city government. I would like to simply point out that the first act I took upon taking office 10 months ago was to establish the county's first ever Ethical Standards Board - at the very time the city was simultaneously disbanding the one I helped to establish in my tenure as City Council president It is curious that Cunningham criticizes me for defending by mail the hard choices county government was forced to make thanks to the mess his hand-picked crew left behind. It was his unfair attack on me, mailed at taxpayers expense, that prompted my response. I wonder if the mayor will be so eager to defend his massive spending of taxpayer dollars on a race-baiting publication called the Urban Times News, or on the numerous junkets he has attended at our expense, or his attempt to raise his pay as soon as he took office - an attempt the state blocked. I could point out many of the policy failings of this Cunningham administration. His innovative "refinancing" was a masking of the saddling of Jersey City with tens of millions of dollars of new debt to cover operating expenses. I could point out that Jersey City is desperately lacking in the delivery of vital services. Our streets are dirty and pockmarked with potholes. Community-based policing is nonexistent. The dismantling of the neighborhood improvement districts has left a total void in the city's response to quality-of-life issues. But Glenn Cunningham's greatest failure as mayor has been his refusal to work to bring people together. Consensus is not in his vocabulary. I have never seen Jersey City as divided as it is today. The mayor's attitude, ego, rhetoric and fingerpointing style of management has divided people along racial, economic and geographic lines. Jersey City needs a leader of skill and vision to move us forward. Glenn Cunningham seems determined to pit us against each other and hold the city back. I'm going to continue to do all I can to improve the lives of the people I work for, and part of that is why I won't let Glenn Cunningham bully me. I've deeply cut the amount county government spends on taxpayer-paid-for public relations. If anyone wants to sue for that offense Glenn Cunningham ought to be the defendant. THOMAS A. DEGISE Hudson County Executive ***************** End Of Article ****************** Letters to the Editor posted Message 1808 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 13:09:17 Subject: DeGise misuses taxpayer dollars Thursday, September 25, 2003 Letters to the Editor The Jersey Journal As mayor of Jersey City it is my responsibility to inform taxpayers when their money is being used inappropriately. To spend tax dollars to launch campaign attacks is wrong, but that's exactly what Hudson County Executive Tom DeGise did when he recently sent thousands of county residents a letter in which he twisted the facts of how he raised county taxes. In the letter, which ran in The Jersey Journal on Sept. 13, Mr. DeGise almost appeared unhappy that for the second consecutive year Jersey City has not raised property taxes. Despite being cut by 80 percent in "Distressed Cities" monies from Trenton, Jersey City developed a smart refinancing plan, which spared taxpayers from shouldering any greater burden. This creative refinancing plan was done when interest rates were at a historic low - something I am surprised the county did not do in order to keep taxes low. The refinancing option saved the city millions. Taxes were stabilized, a sound fiscal plan for the city was put in place in Jersey City for the next five years. Gov. James McGreevey's Department of Community Affairs in Trenton praised me and my administration for this innovative approach. Secondly, the cost-saving plan was also voted upon and approved unanimously by the City Council of Jersey City, a body that includes Councilman Bill Gaughan, who also serves as County Executive DeGise's $100,000 per year chief of staff, and his political crony, Council President Harvey Smith, and Councilmen Junior Maldonado and Peter Brennan. The smart fiscal planning by my administration resulted in the city being able to hire 50 new firefighters and 60 new police officers - all this without raising taxes!! We're doing things the right way here in Jersey City, although it seems Tom DeGise would prefer we raise taxes on property owners to provide him and his Hudson County machine bosses with political fodder. The reality is Tom DeGise raised Jersey City's share of county taxes by $6 million this year. Two weeks prior to the June 3 primary election, Tom DeGise announced a small reduction in county taxes. However, weeks after the election we discovered Tom DeGise raised your taxes. Further, since Tom DeGise took office he has spent $2 million of taxpayers' money to hire his campaign cronies to high-paying county jobs. The people elected Mr. DeGise to fix problems, so he should stop pointing fingers and straighten out the county mess! In 2001, Mr. DeGise lost the mayoral election, although he won the primary election, and most recently he lost Jersey City to Melba Walsh, a dedicated Bayonne community leader. Instead of using taxpayer dollars to fight the mayor of Jersey City, he should work with the mayor to solve our common problems. Finally, I would not be surprised if taxpayers filed a lawsuit against Mr. DeGise's reckless use of taxpayer money to fund his most recent political attack. MAYOR GLENN D. CUNNINGHAM Jersey City : : : Cunningham's biggest failing: Dividing the city : : I can totally understand how two elected officials playing "dueling letters" can become tedious to the public, but a lie left unchallenged can be accepted as fact. So I reluctantly must respond to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's latest attack upon me, my office and my organization. : County government has suffered some huge blows in the last several years. Misdeeds by its elected leaders and political feuds have dominated the headlines. It is easy and convenient to beat up on county government in order to deflect scrutiny on the failings of city government. I would like to simply point out that the first act I took upon taking office 10 months ago was to establish the county's first ever Ethical Standards Board - at the very time the city was simultaneously disbanding the one I helped to establish in my tenure as City Council president : : It is curious that Cunningham criticizes me for defending by mail the hard choices county government was forced to make thanks to the mess his hand-picked crew left behind. : It was his unfair attack on me, mailed at taxpayers expense, that prompted my response. : I wonder if the mayor will be so eager to defend his massive spending of taxpayer dollars on a race-baiting publication called the Urban Times News, or on the numerous junkets he has attended at our expense, or his attempt to raise his pay as soon as he took office - an attempt the state blocked. : I could point out many of the policy failings of this Cunningham administration. His innovative "refinancing" was a masking of the saddling of Jersey City with tens of millions of dollars of new debt to cover operating expenses. I could point out that Jersey City is desperately lacking in the delivery of vital services. Our streets are dirty and pockmarked with potholes. Community-based policing is nonexistent. The dismantling of the neighborhood improvement districts has left a total void in the city's response to quality-of-life issues. : But Glenn Cunningham's greatest failure as mayor has been his refusal to work to bring people together. Consensus is not in his vocabulary. I have never seen Jersey City as divided as it is today. The mayor's attitude, ego, rhetoric and fingerpointing style of management has divided people along racial, economic and geographic lines. Jersey City needs a leader of skill and vision to move us forward. Glenn Cunningham seems determined to pit us against each other and hold the city back. : I'm going to continue to do all I can to improve the lives of the people I work for, and part of that is why I won't let Glenn Cunningham bully me. I've deeply cut the amount county government spends on taxpayer-paid-for public relations. If anyone wants to sue for that offense Glenn Cunningham ought to be the defendant. : : THOMAS A. DEGISE Hudson County Executive : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** JC Voter posted Message 1809 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 13:21:49 Subject: Re: DeGise misuses taxpayer dollars DeGise letter wins my vote. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JVK's Theme Song posted Message 1810 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 14:28:33 Subject: "NOW is the Hour " : The TIME is NOW ! ! ! : Do It ! : : Many years ago the I had the rug pulled from underneath me after several decades of self pity I'v decided to seek revenge on all those that pulled so heavily on the rug I once stood on. You see it was those I trusted and placed in positions of power that destroyed me. HCDO members you know who I am and what I'm going to do to you, but wait it gets better I did from my grave. It is amazing how documents previously unknown can change the future plans of those un-aware of the ramifications of their actions. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1811 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 14:57:19 Subject: To: Pandora's Box...Your issues have issues! Man you are one sad soul. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Separate County Status for Jersey City posted Message 1812 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 15:02:52 Subject: Separate from Hudson County Since both the Democratic Mayor and the Democratic County boss seem at odds about what to really do which is stop using the publics money to feather their own or their friends nest directly or by other methods a separate county is required one run by Republicans. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1813 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 15:33:38 Subject: Links to the Original Letters Here are Links to the original letters: Mayor Cunningham's original letter to Jersey City taxpayers County Executive Tom DeGise's Response ***************** End Of Article ****************** Letters to the Editor posted Message 1814 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 15:39:44 Subject: State Senator Bernard Kenny: Mayor misled me on getting weekly to end its attacks Thursday, September 25, 2003 Letters to the Editor The Jersey Journal The "In Our Opinion" column that appeared in the Saturday, Sept. 20 edition of The Jersey Journal calls upon the Hudson County Democratic Party to appoint Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham to the interim 31st District state Senate seat. So long as the cloud of the ELEC laws violations charges hang over his head, it would be wrong to appoint Glenn Cunningham to that position. His appointment would be disrespectful to the people of our county and to my colleagues on both sides of the aisle. In the past few years, Hudson County's reputation has sustained some very bad blows thanks to the illegal behavior of a few of its elected officials. During the recent court proceedings about the June 3 primary election, the improprieties and illegal actions used by Mayor Cunningham's longtime political operatives and campaign funders were made public. Some have said the mayor did not know of the methods being employed on his behalf during his campaign. In his ruling, Judge D'Italia said it would be disingenuous for anyone to think that the mayor did not know what was going on. When Glenn Cunningham was most recently called upon to disassociate himself from these individuals who circumvented the laws of our state, he dismissed the allegations about their tactics as "minutiae." Many of your readers may not know that the chairman of the mayor's PAC and his election committee is the publisher of the Urban Times. The Urban Times has regularly printed personal attacks on community leaders, families and elected officials who are not Cunningham supporters. They use untrue, inflammatory, vulgar and often racially offensive stories to do so. In spite of this, Mayor Cunningham continues his support for the publication through his continued authorship of a regular editorial column and by allowing a great deal of advertising of City of Jersey City agencies and his own state Senate campaign to be paid for with the taxpayers' dollars. Shortly after the June 3 primary election, in an effort to mend fences with Glenn Cunningham and his faction, I reached out and did meet with him. One of the ways I suggested that we could reconcile was for the mayor to end his support and stop using taxpayers' money to fuel the Urban Times. The mayor assured me that this would happen. In fact, the attacks did not end, they escalated, and the characters of good people continued to be assailed as the paper labeled them pedophiles, Mafia and worse. As the attacks continued and the mayor did not withdraw his support of the Urban Times, I went back to Glenn Cunningham and again tried to effect a reconciliation. Shortly after that meeting, the Urban Times attacked me and my family. The fact that Glenn Cunningham has not withdrawn his column and continues to allow the people of Jersey City's money to go towards advertising in the Urban Times is a clear indication that he does not want to reconcile with my colleagues and other community leaders. Leaders take the moral high ground at all times - even when it means distancing yourself from longtime associates who act unscrupulously. I have seen this in my colleagues in Hudson County and Trenton. To expect that we would send anyone less to Trenton would be wrong. BERNARD KENNY, N.J. SENATOR AND CHAIRMAN OF THE HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION Hudson County ***************** End Of Article ****************** What About Joe Barry ? posted Message 1815 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 16:08:57 Subject: Kenny takes the Moral High Ground ? Bernie Kenny - please explain your numerous financial "relationships" with Developer Joe Barry. After you explain that -- THEN START YOUR PREACHING : Leaders take the moral high ground at all times - even when it means distancing yourself from longtime associates who act unscrupulously. I have seen this in my colleagues in Hudson County and Trenton. To expect that we would send anyone less to Trenton would be wrong. : BERNARD KENNY, N.J. SENATOR AND CHAIRMAN OF THE HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION Hudson County ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 1816 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 16:43:36 Subject: Cunningham and DeGise dualing letters. Stop with the dualing letters to the JJ and the reporter tonite i'll challenge both Cunningham and DeGise to clear the air next Monday night on air for all of us to hear, cards on the table no holds bared once and for all settle it! the City and County need to move forward lets see who of these two are chicken!!! Plus we have a good show tonite 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1817 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 17:04:14 Subject: Mayor fears Omega 7 impact - Jersey Journal, October 8, 1987 By Agustin Torres ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1818 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 17:16:25 Subject: Re: State Senator Bernard Kenny: Mayor misled me on getting weekly to end its attacks What happened, did you lose the piece of paper with the word "necrophiliac" written on it? I'd like to see -- toot sweet -- exactly where the words "pedophile" or "necrophiliac" were used. Did you show sources to NJN? : Thursday, September 25, 2003 : Letters to the Editor : The Jersey Journal : The "In Our Opinion" column that appeared in the Saturday, Sept. 20 edition of The Jersey Journal calls upon the Hudson County Democratic Party to appoint Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham to the interim 31st District state Senate seat. So long as the cloud of the ELEC laws violations charges hang over his head, it would be wrong to appoint Glenn Cunningham to that position. His appointment would be disrespectful to the people of our county and to my colleagues on both sides of the aisle. : In the past few years, Hudson County's reputation has sustained some very bad blows thanks to the illegal behavior of a few of its elected officials. During the recent court proceedings about the June 3 primary election, the improprieties and illegal actions used by Mayor Cunningham's longtime political operatives and campaign funders were made public. Some have said the mayor did not know of the methods being employed on his behalf during his campaign. In his ruling, Judge D'Italia said it would be disingenuous for anyone to think that the mayor did not know what was going on. When Glenn Cunningham was most recently called upon to disassociate himself from these individuals who circumvented the laws of our state, he dismissed the allegations about their tactics as "minutiae." : Many of your readers may not know that the chairman of the mayor's PAC and his election committee is the publisher of the Urban Times. The Urban Times has regularly printed personal attacks on community leaders, families and elected officials who are not Cunningham supporters. They use untrue, inflammatory, vulgar and often racially offensive stories to do so. In spite of this, Mayor Cunningham continues his support for the publication through his continued authorship of a regular editorial column and by allowing a great deal of advertising of City of Jersey City agencies and his own state Senate campaign to be paid for with the taxpayers' dollars. : : Shortly after the June 3 primary election, in an effort to mend fences with Glenn Cunningham and his faction, I reached out and did meet with him. One of the ways I suggested that we could reconcile was for the mayor to end his support and stop using taxpayers' money to fuel the Urban Times. The mayor assured me that this would happen. In fact, the attacks did not end, they escalated, and the characters of good people continued to be assailed as the paper labeled them pedophiles, Mafia and worse. : As the attacks continued and the mayor did not withdraw his support of the Urban Times, I went back to Glenn Cunningham and again tried to effect a reconciliation. Shortly after that meeting, the Urban Times attacked me and my family. The fact that Glenn Cunningham has not withdrawn his column and continues to allow the people of Jersey City's money to go towards advertising in the Urban Times is a clear indication that he does not want to reconcile with my colleagues and other community leaders. : Leaders take the moral high ground at all times - even when it means distancing yourself from longtime associates who act unscrupulously. I have seen this in my colleagues in Hudson County and Trenton. To expect that we would send anyone less to Trenton would be wrong. : BERNARD KENNY, N.J. SENATOR AND CHAIRMAN OF THE HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION Hudson County ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1819 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 17:56:15 Subject: Re: State Senator Bernard Kenny: Mayor misled me on getting weekly to end its attacks Anthony Page 8 Aug 18. the words are not be there anymore. You change the post same as you did with the Glazer post..."my name is "Steve Glazer" you changed it to "Can you guess my name " or something like that. I am not saying you are the one who posts this stuff but there needs to be better screening. The edited post is still bad.............. Look, see. : : Letters to the Editor : : The Jersey Journal : : The "In Our Opinion" column that appeared in the Saturday, Sept. 20 edition of The Jersey Journal calls upon the Hudson County Democratic Party to appoint Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham to the interim 31st District state Senate seat. So long as the cloud of the ELEC laws violations charges hang over his head, it would be wrong to appoint Glenn Cunningham to that position. His appointment would be disrespectful to the people of our county and to my colleagues on both sides of the aisle. : : In the past few years, Hudson County's reputation has sustained some very bad blows thanks to the illegal behavior of a few of its elected officials. During the recent court proceedings about the June 3 primary election, the improprieties and illegal actions used by Mayor Cunningham's longtime political operatives and campaign funders were made public. Some have said the mayor did not know of the methods being employed on his behalf during his campaign. In his ruling, Judge D'Italia said it would be disingenuous for anyone to think that the mayor did not know what was going on. When Glenn Cunningham was most recently called upon to disassociate himself from these individuals who circumvented the laws of our state, he dismissed the allegations about their tactics as "minutiae." : : Many of your readers may not know that the chairman of the mayor's PAC and his election committee is the publisher of the Urban Times. The Urban Times has regularly printed personal attacks on community leaders, families and elected officials who are not Cunningham supporters. They use untrue, inflammatory, vulgar and often racially offensive stories to do so. In spite of this, Mayor Cunningham continues his support for the publication through his continued authorship of a regular editorial column and by allowing a great deal of advertising of City of Jersey City agencies and his own state Senate campaign to be paid for with the taxpayers' dollars. : : : : Shortly after the June 3 primary election, in an effort to mend fences with Glenn Cunningham and his faction, I reached out and did meet with him. One of the ways I suggested that we could reconcile was for the mayor to end his support and stop using taxpayers' money to fuel the Urban Times. The mayor assured me that this would happen. In fact, the attacks did not end, they escalated, and the characters of good people continued to be assailed as the paper labeled them pedophiles, Mafia and worse. : : As the attacks continued and the mayor did not withdraw his support of the Urban Times, I went back to Glenn Cunningham and again tried to effect a reconciliation. Shortly after that meeting, the Urban Times attacked me and my family. The fact that Glenn Cunningham has not withdrawn his column and continues to allow the people of Jersey City's money to go towards advertising in the Urban Times is a clear indication that he does not want to reconcile with my colleagues and other community leaders. : : Leaders take the moral high ground at all times - even when it means distancing yourself from longtime associates who act unscrupulously. I have seen this in my colleagues in Hudson County and Trenton. To expect that we would send anyone less to Trenton would be wrong. : : BERNARD KENNY, N.J. SENATOR AND CHAIRMAN OF THE HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION Hudson County ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1820 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 18:56:42 Subject: Re: State Senator Bernard Kenny: Mayor misled me on getting weekly to end its attacks : Anthony Page 8 Aug 18. the words are not be there anymore. : You change the post same as you did with the Glazer post..."my name is "Steve Glazer" you changed it to "Can you guess my name " or something like that. I am not saying you are the one who posts this stuff but there needs to be better screening. The edited post is still bad.............. Look, see. Exactly what post do you mean? There are a large number of posts on that Page. I deleted/edited many posts that charged illegal acts, posts in poor taste, posts placed under the names of other people. I am very sure that I've never seen or removed the words "pedophile" or "necrophiliac" from any posts. In the NJN interview, State Senator Bernard Kenny made a big deal out of those words. (Same in the JJ.) Where did he see them? He should hand out copies! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1821 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 19:15:07 Subject: Re: State Senator Bernard Kenny: Mayor misled me on getting weekly to end its attacks : : Anthony Page 8 Aug 18. the words are not be there anymore. : : You change the post same as you did with the Glazer post..."my name is "Steve Glazer" you changed it to "Can you guess my name " or something like that. I am not saying you are the one who posts this stuff but there needs to be better screening. The edited post is still bad.............. Look, see. : Exactly what post do you mean? There are a large number of posts on that Page. : I deleted/edited many posts that charged illegal acts, posts in poor taste, posts placed under the names of other people. I am very sure that I've never seen or removed the words "pedophile" or "necrophiliac" from any posts. : In the NJN interview, State Senator Bernard Kenny made a big deal out of those words. (Same in the JJ.) Where did he see them? He should hand out copies! I searched for a long time and finally found the Message in the Link below. It's a sophomoric comparison of graveyard voters to sexual practices. The word "necrophiliac" is not used. Senator Bernard Kenny is not mentioned. Governor McGreevey is cited by name in the post. If Bernard Kenny is going to start defending Governor McGreevey's against public opinion, the Senator has a hard row to hoe! I'd figger that he (and the rest of the "McGreevey Team") would have learned by now to put as much space as possible between themselves and James E. And anyhow, what is there in the post that suggests coordination with the Mayor's Office? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Spanky posted Message 1822 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 19:38:54 Subject: Dew yoo meen dooling leters. Why donchu get Bernie Kenny on the air two and splain about ded guys and little boys and where he got that from? OK? : Stop with the dualing letters to the JJ and the reporter tonite i'll challenge both Cunningham and DeGise to clear the air next Monday night on air for all of us to hear, cards on the table no holds bared once and for all settle it! the City and County need to move forward lets see who of these two are chicken!!! Plus we have a good show tonite 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Can't Take the Heat posted Message 1823 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 19:40:03 Subject: Federal Grand Jury Has Kenny Paranoid : Thursday, September 25, 2003 : Letters to the Editor : The Jersey Journal : The "In Our Opinion" column that appeared in the Saturday, Sept. 20 edition of The Jersey Journal calls upon the Hudson County Democratic Party to appoint Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham to the interim 31st District state Senate seat. So long as the cloud of the ELEC laws violations charges hang over his head, it would be wrong to appoint Glenn Cunningham to that position. His appointment would be disrespectful to the people of our county and to my colleagues on both sides of the aisle. : In the past few years, Hudson County's reputation has sustained some very bad blows thanks to the illegal behavior of a few of its elected officials. During the recent court proceedings about the June 3 primary election, the improprieties and illegal actions used by Mayor Cunningham's longtime political operatives and campaign funders were made public. Some have said the mayor did not know of the methods being employed on his behalf during his campaign. In his ruling, Judge D'Italia said it would be disingenuous for anyone to think that the mayor did not know what was going on. When Glenn Cunningham was most recently called upon to disassociate himself from these individuals who circumvented the laws of our state, he dismissed the allegations about their tactics as "minutiae." : Many of your readers may not know that the chairman of the mayor's PAC and his election committee is the publisher of the Urban Times. The Urban Times has regularly printed personal attacks on community leaders, families and elected officials who are not Cunningham supporters. They use untrue, inflammatory, vulgar and often racially offensive stories to do so. In spite of this, Mayor Cunningham continues his support for the publication through his continued authorship of a regular editorial column and by allowing a great deal of advertising of City of Jersey City agencies and his own state Senate campaign to be paid for with the taxpayers' dollars. : : Shortly after the June 3 primary election, in an effort to mend fences with Glenn Cunningham and his faction, I reached out and did meet with him. One of the ways I suggested that we could reconcile was for the mayor to end his support and stop using taxpayers' money to fuel the Urban Times. The mayor assured me that this would happen. In fact, the attacks did not end, they escalated, and the characters of good people continued to be assailed as the paper labeled them pedophiles, Mafia and worse. : As the attacks continued and the mayor did not withdraw his support of the Urban Times, I went back to Glenn Cunningham and again tried to effect a reconciliation. Shortly after that meeting, the Urban Times attacked me and my family. The fact that Glenn Cunningham has not withdrawn his column and continues to allow the people of Jersey City's money to go towards advertising in the Urban Times is a clear indication that he does not want to reconcile with my colleagues and other community leaders. : Leaders take the moral high ground at all times - even when it means distancing yourself from longtime associates who act unscrupulously. I have seen this in my colleagues in Hudson County and Trenton. To expect that we would send anyone less to Trenton would be wrong. : BERNARD KENNY, N.J. SENATOR AND CHAIRMAN OF THE HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION Hudson County ***************** End Of Article ****************** Guess Who? posted Message 1824 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 19:56:20 Subject: HCDO Should be mad they actually thought only dead people voted The word slander comes to mind when thinking about how the HCDO explains the public outrage over years of abuse and corruption. Basically they steal and rob and expect people to treat them with respect. Perhaps comments about dead folks are more an expression of what they expect from the voters. Last time I check you had to be alive to vote, of course if the HCDO knows otherwise then they should be mad. Since only the living get mad when you steal from them the HCDO should probably check who voted them in. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Twilight Zone posted Message 1825 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 20:05:53 Subject: Kenny creature of the night Kenny is a fool and has little or no right to hold office. But that never stops him does it. Imagine if you will the twilight zone of politicians this is where the Kenny creature lives somewhere between what is known and unknown. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Twilight Zone posted Message 1826 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 20:07:53 Subject: Re: Kenny takes the Moral High Ground ? Kenny couldn't find a leg to stand let alone high ground. : Bernie Kenny - please explain your numerous financial "relationships" with Developer Joe Barry. : After you explain that -- THEN START YOUR PREACHING : : Leaders take the moral high ground at all times - even when it means distancing yourself from longtime associates who act unscrupulously. I have seen this in my colleagues in Hudson County and Trenton. To expect that we would send anyone less to Trenton would be wrong. : : BERNARD KENNY, N.J. SENATOR AND CHAIRMAN OF THE HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION Hudson County ***************** End Of Article ****************** Creature Features posted Message 1827 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 21:13:27 Subject: Kenny's Law Firm Bilks Taxpayers Bernie Kenny's Law Firm is Bilking the Taxpayers of Hoboken and Hudson County out of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of DOLLARS in Legal Fees. Kenny submits bills thru his las firm - Sarkisian , Florio & Kenny. In addition Kenny is making a fortune off of Developer Joe Barry. : Kenny is a fool and has little or no right to hold office. But that never stops him does it. Imagine if you will the twilight zone of politicians this is where the Kenny creature lives somewhere between what is known and unknown. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LPS posted Message 1828 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 21:31:03 Subject: Utn bils the Taxpayers Bobby Jackson's Urban Times News is Bilking the Taxpayers of Hoboken Jersey City and Hudson County out of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of DOLLARS in Legal ads and public notices. : The paper is not qualified under New Jersey state laws. : In addition Jackson is making a fortune off of Jersey City and Hoboken. : : Jackson is a fool and has little or no right to get tax payers money. But that never stops him does it. Imagine if you will the twilight zone of Jersey City this is where the Jackson creature lives somewhere between what is known and unknown. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BILKS BILKS BILKS BILKS...got it! posted Message 1829 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2003 at 21:50:02 Subject: Re: Utn bilks the Taxpayers That darn sticky key! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kenny posted Message 1830 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 01:35:34 Subject: BERNIE FIGHT FREEDOM OF SPEECH On "Hudson County Talking Radio Show" on channel 1430AM on Monday nights, host Pat Omelia announced that Senator Bernard Kenny is officially launching complaints against Internet message boards that post rumors about him. Pat said it was ridiculous that Bernard should openly complain, since the internet is free speach, and by complaining Bernard will draw more attention to these rumors. Anyone got any new juicy rumors about Bernard Kenny and the Feds and his alleged corruption? Please post them here! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ohhh please! posted Message 1831 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 08:48:02 Subject: Re: DeGise misuses taxpayer dollars The mayor's letter did not cost the taxpayers anything. The standard practice is that when the tax bills go out the Mayor includes a letter to explain the state of the city and an explaination of where the tax dollars are going. I don't know whether or not you are a homeowner, but if you were you would know that. Tom De Gise's letter was sent to the taxpayers in an attempt to cover up his increases that he conveniently forgot to mention during the election to every taypayer in Jersey City. You do the math...How much do you think that cost us for him to use the county dollars for his own personal reasons (a.k.a. campaigning). Also ask him how much he spent recently to install a shower in the County Executive's office, even Janisewski had enough sense not to waste money on that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hoo-Aaah posted Message 1832 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 10:09:26 Subject: Bernie's Meltdown Intervention is needed. Necro/Pedo/Feltching. Underage girls, young boys, defenseless little rodents? What has this got to do with the looting of public funds and the public trust? Who said these things? When and where and in what context? This guy's mind is gone. Remove him before he does any real damage. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Feel Sorry For Roberta posted Message 1833 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 10:31:54 Subject: Pity his Wife What must it be like to live with such a man ? I feel sorry for his wife Roberta - FOR MANY REASONS ! : Intervention is needed. Necro/Pedo/Feltching. Underage girls, young boys, defenseless little rodents? What has this got to do with the looting of public funds and the public trust? Who said these things? When and where and in what context? This guy's mind is gone. Remove him before he does any real damage. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Needs More Than That posted Message 1834 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 10:40:10 Subject: DeGise Needs A Shower LMAO What price vanity ? DeGise installs a shower in his county exec office !!! He needs more than a shower. DeGise should start at the Dentist then head for Plastic Surgeon. In the mean time pick up supply of Brown Paper Bags to cover head. Speaking of head - see Brain doctor also. : The mayor's letter did not cost the taxpayers anything. The standard practice is that when the tax bills go out the : Mayor includes a letter to explain the state of the city and an explaination of where the tax dollars are going. I don't know whether or not you are a homeowner, but if you were you would know that. Tom De Gise's letter was sent to the taxpayers in an attempt to cover up his increases that he conveniently forgot to mention during the election to every taypayer in Jersey City. You do the math...How much do you think that cost us for him to use the county dollars for his own personal reasons (a.k.a. campaigning). Also ask him how much he spent recently to install a shower in the County Executive's office, even Janisewski had enough sense not to waste money on that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UNOWHO posted Message 1835 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 10:42:43 Subject: SG ....I am warning you...enough! Unless your closet is clean stop this crap. Leave peoples families alone! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1836 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 11:46:01 Subject: Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! Got a problem with the HCDO fine..But,these personal attacks on innocent people is wrong. And that goes for both sides. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1837 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 13:37:56 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Radio Show of September 29, 2003 An audio recording is now available Online. Please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MARIA MIGUEL posted Message 1838 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 17:13:30 Subject: CLEANING SERVICE MARIA'S CLEANING SERVICE WE CLEAN YOUR HOME OR OFFICE DO YOUR LAUNDRY ETC. WE ARE RELIABLE PEOPLE. WE ARE A SMALL COMPANY AND ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF LADIES CLEANING SO YOU GET THE BEST SERVICE POSSIBLE. WE ARE HONEST PEOPLE AND HAVE GOOD REFERENCES. WE SPEAK PORTUGUESE AS WELL AS ENGLISH. WE ARE LEGAL IN THE U.S.A. AND JUST WANT TO DO AN HONEST LIVING. WE WILL FURNISH IDENTIFICATION OR A REFERENCE LETTER UPON YOUR REQUEST. WE HAVE GOOD RATES. CALL FOR A FREE ESTIMATE HOME (973)690-5797 CELL (201)841-0112 CELL (973)985-4803 ASK FOR MARIA OR ALBERTO ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1839 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 17:17:43 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board Welcome to the Message Board ***************** End Of Article ****************** Julio Churchs posted Message 1840 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 18:23:26 Subject: Lives in danger People not directly involved are in danger and may be placed in more harm if careful consideration is not given to what we say. Now a public official that has for years stolen is fair game. The family of the crooked politician is not unless that person is also involved. ***************** End Of Article ****************** are you the same posted Message 1841 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 18:49:28 Subject: Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! : Unless your closet is clean stop this crap. : Leave peoples families alone! as chelsa ***************** End Of Article ****************** are you the same posted Message 1842 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 18:50:13 Subject: Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! : Got a problem with the HCDO fine..But,these personal attacks on innocent people is wrong. And that goes for both sides. as unowho ***************** End Of Article ****************** OK posted Message 1843 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 18:52:44 Subject: Re: Lives in danger : People not directly involved are in danger and may be placed in more harm if careful consideration is not given to what we say. Now a public official that has for years stolen is fair game. The family of the crooked politician is not unless that person is also involved. But that was not unowho ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Does Not know Where to Look for it posted Message 1844 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 18:54:55 Subject: Re: Kenny takes the Moral High Ground ? : Explain your recent behavior, if you can. Bernie Kenny - please explain your numerous financial "relationships" with Developer Joe Barry. : After you explain that -- THEN START YOUR PREACHING : : Leaders take the moral high ground at all times - even when it means distancing yourself from longtime associates who act unscrupulously. I have seen this in my colleagues in Hudson County and Trenton. To expect that we would send anyone less to Trenton would be wrong. : : BERNARD KENNY, N.J. SENATOR AND CHAIRMAN OF THE HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION Hudson County ***************** End Of Article ****************** unowho=:) posted Message 1845 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 19:32:48 Subject: Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! Nope! I am me and you are you and she is she! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Catrillo For County Executive posted Message 1846 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 19:40:44 Subject: Catrillo on the Issues Catrillo On Corruption and Taxes ***************** End Of Article ****************** lmao posted Message 1847 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 19:47:33 Subject: Re: Catrillo on the Issues Catrillo on the issues. Charlie your issues have issues! ***************** End Of Article ****************** wow look at that posted Message 1848 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 19:49:48 Subject: Re: Utn bils the Taxpayers The scary thing about this is all you had to do was change the name and the story is the same...both are crooks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Democrats for Hudson County posted Message 1849 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 20:01:05 Subject: “Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court” “Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court” ***************** End Of Article ****************** Protect our Safety posted Message 1850 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 22:48:01 Subject: Terrorist are probing power grid and facilities http://enterprise.southofboston.com/display/inn_news/News/news01.txt Although this is not the proper place to post this please take note that our power facilities have been probed and are being probed by terrorist. We must suspend political in fighting to secure our nation against threats from outside. Please ask the elected officials to preform on a level that will at least insure our safety. The Italian Blackout was of a similar nature to the one we recently experienced which was not caused by trees in OHIO. So pleas elected officials make sure that efforts are doubled to protect our safety. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inquiring Mind posted Message 1851 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 23:30:50 Subject: Re: Catrillo on the Issues : Catrillo On Corruption and Taxes How does Mr. Catrillo feel about forgery? In particular forging nominating petitions. More particuarly Rafael Frugela's nominating petitions. Also what kind of mascara does he use? ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1852 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 23:36:30 Subject: Re: Catrillo on the Issues Cover girl...the same he uses on his brows ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stop the presses posted Message 1853 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2003 at 23:38:17 Subject: Re: “Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court” Isn't this the same person Bobby Jackson makes fun of in the Urban Times News. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Politico posted Message 1854 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 00:11:21 Subject: 33rd District. Kenny a loser? Kenny should stop wining and do something for his district. He is a soldier of fortunes and has been with everyone who is on top. He is a non-entity and depends on the likes of Menendez, Roberts and Russo before that in order to keep his seat. He has never had any real opposition and has always gotten away easy, however this is not the case this time around , FRAGUELA is now giving him some real competition and he will go down along with many other DEMS. This is a mid- term election and McGreddy's popularity is at an all time low and the people of NJ, and those of us who are DEMS and really care for our Cities in Hudson County will send a clear message and support the REPUBLICANS in NOVEMBER, The main reason why we will be supporting REPUBLICANS is because the DEMS have failed all the minorities and have taken us for granted and we must send them a wake up call, by letting them know that we will not be used any longer. Hudson County is a vivid example of taxation with out representation,especially when it comes to LATINOS and other minorities. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and don't be fool by the same old POLITICIANS and their idle promises. It happened in 1984 when we sent REPUBLICANS to Trenton to REPRESENT the 33rd District, let us do it again and send FRAGUELA, Di NARDO & MUNOZ to TRENTON and rid ourselves of the likes of Kenny, Stackkk and Sires for they have lost touch with the people and are now owned by and in the pockets of the DEVELOPERS of HOBOKEN, UNION CITY & WEST NEW YORK. BASTA YA my Friends and say NO to The DEMS in NORTH HUDSON. The only DEM that should be supported is Mayor Glenn Cunningham and has been the only one in the COUNTY with the Testical Fortitute to stand up to the old MENENDEZ GUARD & their Machine politics. Remember Kenny could wine all he wants to, but he has a lot of explaining to do. He should first tell the voters about his visits to the FEDS in Newark and his target letter , then he should tell us about his affiliations with BARRY, LISA and RUSSO in the Past. Then he could tell us about his involvement with some FEDERAL FUNDS that were misused stolen or wasted, As you could see he has plenty of reasons to complain & try to censored the people's opinions. But the truth will come out soon and he will be defeated in NOVEMBER as he has never done an honest day of work in his adult life. He has always been riding the GRAVY TRAIN with the rest of the CORRUPTED DEMS in HUDSON. So come out NOVEMBER 4th -VOTE REPUBLICAN and SUPPORT the Column B Candidates in the 33rd Legislative Districts. Go FRAGUELA, Di NARDO & MUNOZ, and vote for the Cunigham Team and reformed democrats. FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE PEOPLE, NOT JUST THE CHOSEN FEW. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Same PersonFukkenA posted Message 1855 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 00:18:07 Subject: Re: “Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court” This is the same lady with all the motor vehicle problems and is an accomplice to the Jersey City Medical Center. Who is better than Zulima, Black Cuban lady. FukkenA C : Isn't this the same person Bobby Jackson makes fun of in the Urban Times News. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Benni Hanna posted Message 1856 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 00:22:36 Subject: Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! I love this 60s and 70s crap. Wait don't tell me. You are the Walrus, right? Coo Coo ca choo. Just one thing, tho. How many of you are there? : Nope! I am me and you are you and she is she! ***************** End Of Article ****************** TTM posted Message 1857 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 00:24:27 Subject: Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! I love when you talk dirty to me. Say the part I love to hear. : Got a problem with the HCDO fine..But,these personal attacks on innocent people is wrong. And that goes for both sides. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Woe Woe is me Joe D posted Message 1858 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 03:15:15 Subject: In Reply To Joe Doria's JJ Letter To The Editor After the Municipal election in Bayonne in 2002 when Melba Walsh won the machine vote only to lose by 17 questionable absentee ballots to Joe Doria's candidate for the city council. She put her horse back in the stable to rest him for the next race, so why is that Joe Doria is still beating the hell out of his dead one!!!!! Off to the Glue Factory ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens, The Urban Times News posted Message 1859 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 04:54:40 Subject: INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP By Jay Stevens--email: jstevens@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** ttm posted Message 1860 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 08:52:56 Subject: Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! LMFAO ***************** End Of Article ****************** Intellectual Predator posted Message 1861 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 09:07:42 Subject: Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! What the hell are you moaning about you idiot? This can be no other then Jersey City's Steve Glazer. The Urban Times News # 1 idiot. Hey Steve, been on any chat rooms lately. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Boy George posted Message 1862 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 10:01:44 Subject: You look Marvelous !!! You don't have a brain in your head Charlie. And you're a political HO. But you look marvelous. Just one suggestion though. You need a little more makeup for the perfect look. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Timothy Leary posted Message 1863 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 10:04:46 Subject: The Brown Acid Politico .. you gotta stop taking that brown acid. It's gonna freak you out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mayor Man-iac posted Message 1864 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 10:07:20 Subject: Kiss of Death With Glenn's backing, Farber is doomed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tidy Cat posted Message 1865 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 10:31:51 Subject: Hudson County's Best The UTN ... Hudson County's best litter pan liner. All that it's good for. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TTM posted Message 1866 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 10:41:51 Subject: Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! .............and what part is that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez DESTROYED Doria posted Message 1867 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 10:48:30 Subject: Face It Joe - YOU LOST Boss Bobalou is the downfall of Joe D. : After the Municipal election in Bayonne in 2002 when Melba Walsh won the machine vote only to lose by 17 questionable absentee ballots to Joe Doria's candidate for the city council. She put her horse back in the stable to rest him for the next race, so why is that Joe Doria is still beating the hell out of his dead one!!!!! Off to the Glue Factory ***************** End Of Article ****************** Obladi Oblada posted Message 1868 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 11:36:12 Subject: Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! Desmond has a barrow in the market place Molly is the singer in a band Desmond says to Molly-girl I like your face And Molly says this as she takes him by the hand. Obladi oblada life goes on bra Lala how the life goes on Obladi Oblada life goes on bra Lala how the life goes on. Desmond takes a trolly to the jewellers store Buys a twenty carat golden ring Takes it back to Molly waiting at the door And as he gives it to her she begins to sing. In a couple of years they have built A home sweet home With a couple of kids running in the yard Of Desmond and Molly Jones. Happy ever after in the market place Molly lets the children lend a hand Desmond stays -at-home and does his pretty face And in the evening she's a singer with the band. And if you want some fun-take Obladi Oblada. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TTm posted Message 1869 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 18:30:23 Subject: Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! : .............and what part is that? ...............the good part ***************** End Of Article ****************** SpoonELuv posted Message 1870 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 18:33:36 Subject: Ayala Scarinci/Menendez mole operative. This guy's gotta go. NOW ***************** End Of Article ****************** ?????????????????????????????? posted Message 1871 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 18:46:26 Subject: Re: Ayala Please explain we all want to know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** tTm posted Message 1872 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 18:48:15 Subject: Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! : : .............and what part is that? : ...............the good part :................which part? ***************** End Of Article ****************** SpoonELuv posted Message 1873 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 21:12:57 Subject: Re: Ayala ***what would you do? : Please explain we all want to know. If you wanted to sabotage an organization what better way than to put this guy in the middle of it in a position of influence. If you think about it, who is he and where did he come from and what is he qualified to do? what experience does he have? what credentials does he have? why is he there? You gotta be kidding me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** politico posted Message 1874 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 23:15:01 Subject: Re: The Brown Acid Yeah every time I have to pay my taxes because of the corruption I do freak out ***************** End Of Article ****************** Something Not Right ! posted Message 1875 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2003 at 23:22:49 Subject: Re: Ayala ***what would you do? I agree ..... there is something not right with the Ayala picture. : : Please explain we all want to know. : If you wanted to sabotage an organization what better way than to put this guy in the middle of it in a position of influence. : If you think about it, who is he and where did he come from and what is he qualified to do? what experience does he have? what credentials does he have? why is he there? You gotta be kidding me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Elect Charles Catrillo for Hudson County Executive posted Message 1876 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2003 at 09:07:46 Subject: About Charles Catrillo Elect Charles Catrillo for Hudson County Executive ***************** End Of Article ****************** Charles Catrillo for Hudson County Executive posted Message 1877 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2003 at 14:59:04 Subject: Online Video: Catrillo for County Executive To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ?????? posted Message 1878 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2003 at 18:03:05 Subject: A question for Mr.(sic)Steven Glazer Just saw the link to your picture. Is that a pimple on your nose or are you just happy to see us? ***************** End Of Article ****************** !! posted Message 1879 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2003 at 22:45:28 Subject: Re: A question for Mr.(sic)Steven Glazer Where is your top lip? : Just saw the link to your picture. : Is that a pimple on your nose or are you just happy to see us? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Daniel Sicardi posted Message 1880 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2003 at 12:26:10 Subject: Cunningham and Deguise Cunningham and Deguise have been fighting since both have run against each other. Cunningham has done more for all of Jersey City than his predecessor. Deguise is not as corrupt as his predecessor. However, I am not willing to continue accepting the opinion from the Urban Times that Cunningham is the new Messiah. A lot of the people that have been placed in positions of responsibility in JERSEY CITY BY HIM are not doing a good job. People like (DPW)Joe DeSousa and Richie Frieda are ripping off the Taxpayers of Jersey City. Ron Buonocore and Betty Outlaw do not rate the salary or merit the responsibility of being heads of departments like DPW. All I know is that they are not doing a good job. I can document these shortcomings! In regards to the County, A lot of schools that are located on Kennedy Boulevard do not have the required painted street markings. We do have a bridge across the Boulevard that cost $6 million bucks. It goes from Saint Peter's College to Saint Peter's College. Annual maintenance of the Bridge has not been worked out. But you know who is going to get stuck with the bill! I don't care if the State gave Jersey City or the County the money to build the bridge. The money could have been used for many other things that would have been more usefull! Some Schools that need painted markings are in Greenville. Some are in Ward B, and some are in the heights. Who is supposed to do it. We pay for it to be done. I would be more likely to give Tom DeGuise the benefit of the doubt if I saw some activity by the county over this issue! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Spelling posted Message 1881 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2003 at 12:28:38 Subject: Re: Cunningham and DeGise dualing letters. If you are going to take the time to post, take the time to spell correctly the words of your post Duel Dueling ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sorry Steve, but I couldn't resist. posted Message 1882 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2003 at 15:40:23 Subject: Re: A question for Mr.(sic)Steven Glazer My turn... :Your chest hair is all grey but the hair on top of your hair has no greys..A fashion no- no. Didn't you see last weeks episode of Sex in the city? :Your shirt looks like it's from Chess-King so either to update the closet or update the picture. :The side-burns... very Eddie Munster. : Where is your top lip? : : Just saw the link to your picture. : : Is that a pimple on your nose or are you just happy to see us? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Crabtree posted Message 1883 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2003 at 22:10:32 Subject: Document this. It's DeGise .. not Deguise. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Captain America posted Message 1884 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2003 at 22:24:01 Subject: THANK YOU ANTHONY !!! Thank you Mr. Olszewski for bringing us the Adventures of Mayor Man online. You have done a great service to the community. Now all the little children will know the difference between right and wrong, with a true hero to emulate like Mayor Man. Thank you Anthony. You are a great American !! By the way, if you believe I'm Captain America or that any of the words I've just posted are sincere, then Gene Drayton is Santa Claus. Doesn't Mayor Man sorta look like Blacula ? Love that Greg Malave. Jersey City's Picasso. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ROTFLMFHO posted Message 1885 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2003 at 23:16:11 Subject: Re: THANK YOU ANTHONY !!! Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ***************** End Of Article ****************** Trick Dacy posted Message 1886 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2003 at 04:36:21 Subject: Upcoming adventures of Mayor-Man Just think of all the nefarious characters just waiting to be featured in upcoming adventures of Mayor-Man: Tom "Laurel" Degise and Bob "Hardy" Menendez, Javier "Baghdad" Inclan, Bernie "Webophobia" Kenny, and Fat Joe! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ROWAN MARTIN posted Message 1887 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2003 at 17:05:52 Subject: Week 2 of Mayor-man Mayor-Man spotted over 101 Hudson. Falcons trying to attack Mayor-Man Stay tuned! MONDAY: Lady One raises Cunningham's star-shaped marshal's badge above her head, triggering as a powerful bolt of energy. Blinding the baby falcon.This is not good.. P.I.T.A. spotted coming down Washington Blvd. Wait I can't believe my eyes. Mother falcon swoops down picks up Lady-One and was last spotted over in Fort Lee and was heard screaming "MAYOR-MAN HELP". Wednesday: Mel Cuccitucci, who lives in a high-rise building that sits on the banks of the Hudson River in Edgewater, heard a thud at his terrace door.Going to investigate, he found what he described as "a very tired if somewhat woozy Mayor-Man" sitting on the astroturf floor of his terrace. For Mr. Cuccitucci, it was a scary sight. The Mayor-Man, regarded him quite calmly as he grabbed the phone to call the local police and picked up his camera to take a picture.. The police could not reach Lady-One because of the council meeting, so they decided to see if the Mayor-Man would recover on its own from its encounter with plate glass. Mayor-Man was charged with tresspassing and is due to appear in court at a latter date. THURSDAY We have received a Mayor-Man sighting from Jersey City. A viewer who works in a nearby office building was reading the Breaking News update when she noticed Mayor-Man sitting on top of one of the towers of 101 Hudson Street. As she watched, three falcons, which the viewer described as "circling and shrieking," took off after what she described as the Mayor-Man We can only guess at the exact scenario, but it would appear that three juveniles were chasing after the Mayor-Man, possibly the female, in an attempt to cadge a meal was seen pecking at Lady-One. Although the young birds are probably Republicans, they are opportunistic and certainly not above flipping if the prospect of a meal presents itself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good Bye Jersey City Hello Florida posted Message 1888 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2003 at 10:15:57 Subject: Myopic Mayor and the Decaying value of Jersey City The decaying value of Jersey City Real Estate is happening with no one watching the helm of the ship. At the current time Jersey City enjoys a close relationship from a geographic perspective to the Financial District of Manhattan basically providing an affordable place to put back office operations. This advantage is based on the centralized structure of the Securities Processing Regime currently used by the industry, which is a security risk because it allows for a single point of failure. DTCC/NSCC, which is located at 55 Water Street, is the crucible of this industry and is planning to move to Florida by 2005. If the Jersey City Government where not so interested in pay offs they would realize that the ground they stand on is eroding under their feet and placing in jeopardy the critical economic stimulus the geographic location to DTCC has added. The question is why Jersey City does not see the inter-relationship of Manhattan to Jersey City, well the answer is they are to stupid to see beyond their own noses and they are racist in a sense because they see commercial development as something to take a bribe from rather than promote. So the Mayor needs to address this issue and it will require a steady effort with no quick buck pay off for his buddies and that also applies to the HCDO as well. The best means of achieving this effort to move DTCC to Jersey City to give them what they want and that can be achieved by separate county status and not putting your hands out for a bribe. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's Not What You Said posted Message 1889 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2003 at 10:24:50 Subject: Re: ?Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court? : ?Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court? You Said Zulima Farber should be on the Supreme Court ***************** End Of Article ****************** Unsay What you Said posted Message 1890 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2003 at 10:26:51 Subject: Re: ?Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court? : ?Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court? OOPS. Who Said That? Who Unsaid That? It unhappened. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say What? posted Message 1891 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2003 at 10:27:52 Subject: Re: ?Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court? : ?Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court? Say Who? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say What? posted Message 1892 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2003 at 10:29:33 Subject: Re: ?Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court? : This is the same lady with all the motor vehicle problems and is an accomplice to the Jersey City Medical Center. Who is better than Zulima, Black Cuban lady. : C : : : Isn't this the same person Bobby Jackson makes fun of in the Urban Times News. Say Who Said that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Medusa, The Gorgon posted Message 1893 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2003 at 10:40:07 Subject: Fate of the coming tide A single point of failure froma design standpoint is not acceptable. This also holds true with political subdivisions of which Hudson County is one. The County has failed the residents of Jersey City and taken much to much to worth a continued relationship. As this relationship is one abuse of power the Mayor should start an effort to discontinue the Hudson County and Jersey City franchise. Jersey City needs to be another county so it will be free to move quickly to capitalize on the changing enviroment. While Hudson County has failed due in no small part to the corruption of the HCDO and the corrupt State Government Jersey City must also realize that many of its advances in the past have been a lucky mistake. The requires a smart government that acts with the best intentions of the population. At the current time we have stupid greedy people who never consider anyone but themselves. It is clear Hudson County holds nothing for Jersey City, but he question remains can the Jersey City Government get over their racism and act for the benefit of all the people not for their friends and business buddies. ***************** End Of Article ****************** El Poocho posted Message 1894 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2003 at 15:23:08 Subject: Re: You look Marvelous !!! What a pity, all that Catrillo's opponents can do is bash his good looks! Why not take a look at his resume and compare it to DeGise, then talk!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joey G posted Message 1895 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2003 at 15:32:38 Subject: Re: Catrillo on the Issues It is pretty sad that if the worst thing you can say about a candidate is that he looks good! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Papi Chulo posted Message 1896 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2003 at 09:52:23 Subject: Here's the windup--The pitch--Here it comes!!! Saturday, October 4, 2003 at 09:56:03 Handle: TREMINATOR II Comments: EXTRE, EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT !!!! Accorrding to well informed sources there are two seal indictments for Hudson County and are about to be released. It is the opinion of some well informed sources that within the next 5 to 10 days the indictments will be made PUBLIC and it is the word out there amongst Hudson County Politicians that both recipients are from the HOBOKEN political circle. It was learned by our sources that J.Barry and Bernie Kenny are on the very short list of those who will be getting HIT with said indictments. This has made all the corrupted DEMS very nervous and they are running around trying to seek refuge and trying to cover their ASSES. The word is that there is some kind of POW-WOW this week-end trying to figure out how to Save the upcoming ELECTION and trying to figure out what type of DAMAGE CONTROL to use in other to save themselves. WE told you before that the "So -Called" Senator from HOBOKEN had a lot explaining to do as to his relationship with the likes of RUSSO, BARRY & LISA, that he should stop whinning and step aside as he is as corrupted as those who have recently being indictated. We guess the TARGET LETTER was for real and more will come before the NOVEMBER 4 ELECTION. WAKE UP HUDSON COUNTY and SAY NO to the CORRUPTION filled HCDO. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH when is HUDSON going to STOP being the BUT of ALL JOKES and THE HOME of the CORRUPTED POLITICIANS ?????? Maybe SIRES will be NEXT after the RENE ABREU FIASCO and the cutting of a DEAL to SAVE his LOVELY WIFE, Let us wait and see. Only CHRISTIE knows who will be next and we know that he is HUNGRY and he is not going to wait much longer as he said "CORRUPTION is not only WIDE but DEEP in HUDSON COUNTY" SHOW ME THE MONEY CHRISTIE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GARY NUE posted Message 1897 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2003 at 10:16:06 Subject: Re: Here's the windup--The pitch--Here it comes!!! : Saturday, October 4, 2003 at 09:56:03 : Handle: TREMINATOR II : Comments: EXTRE, EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT !!!! Accorrding to well informed sources there are two seal indictments for Hudson County and are about to be released. It is the opinion of some well informed sources that within the next 5 to 10 days the indictments will be made PUBLIC and it is the word out there amongst Hudson County Politicians that both recipients are from the JERSEY CITY. It was learned by our sources that BOBBY JACKSON and JOE CARDWELL are on the very short list of those who will be getting HIT with said indictments. This has made all the corrupted DEMS very nervous and they are running around trying to seek refuge and trying to cover their ASSES. The word is that there is some kind of POW-WOW this week-end trying to figure out how to Save the upcoming ELECTION and trying to figure out what type of DAMAGE CONTROL to use in other to save themselves. WE told you before that the "So -Called" Senator to be from JERSEY CITY had a lot explaining to do as to his relationship with the likes of RUSSO,JACKSON, CARDWELL, McCANN AND WEBSTER that he should stop whinning and step aside as he is as corrupted as those who have recently being indictated. We guess the TARGET LETTER was for real and more will come before the NOVEMBER 4 ELECTION. WAKE UP HUDSON COUNTY and SAY NO to the CORRUPTION filled CITY HALL ENOUGH IS ENOUGH when is HUDSON going to STOP being the BUT of ALL JOKES and THE HOME of the CORRUPTED POLITICIANS ?????? see. Only CHRISTIE knows who will be next and we know that he is HUNGRY and he is not going to wait much longer as he said "CORRUPTION is not only WIDE but DEEP in HUDSON COUNTY" SHOW ME THE MONEY CHRISTIE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1898 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2003 at 14:29:06 Subject: The Adventures of Mayor-Man To read the comic Online, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** By Jay Stevens, The Urban Times News posted Message 1899 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2003 at 17:43:59 Subject: INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP jstevens@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 1900 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2003 at 23:43:20 Subject: You can't make this stuff up (sic) A resolution was presented at tonite's City Council Caucus meeting to hire a consultant to work on the City website. It would appear that a decision has been made that current "webmaster" Martin Jackson can't do the job. If so, what will Martin now be doing for his $55K per year ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mayor Man-iac posted Message 1901 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2003 at 23:51:26 Subject: HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY !!! It appears there is a calamity at City Hall !! Poor little Martin Jackson can't handle the City website AND the delivery of his litter liners (I mean "newspapers") anymore. Those nasty UTN slave drivers are driving the poor boy silly. But I, Mayor Man-iac will come to the rescue. I will fly in a consultant (for a mere $25K) to save the day. Then we can all live happily ever after. And little Martin can still keep his $55K per year. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jayson posted Message 1902 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2003 at 06:41:52 Subject: Re: You can't make this stuff up (sic) : A resolution was presented at tonite's City Council Caucus meeting to hire a consultant to work on the City website. : It would appear that a decision has been made that current "webmaster" Martin Jackson can't do the job. : If so, what will Martin now be doing for his $55K per year ? Wanna bet it will Anthony. A little payback for allowing his site to be a UTN launching pad. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1903 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2003 at 07:29:29 Subject: Re: You can't make this stuff up (sic) That would be classic. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 1904 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2003 at 11:43:04 Subject: SILENCE IS LETHAL-“GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER” cont. sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1905 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2003 at 12:31:20 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Radio Show - Last Night's Show Is Posted Online To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rem and Stempy posted Message 1906 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2003 at 14:07:45 Subject: Oh Happy-Happy-Joy-Joy Happy days are here again.....la la la la la la la la ***************** End Of Article ****************** XMAN posted Message 1907 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2003 at 16:59:25 Subject: Pat Omelia a Sell Out! Mr. Omelia, you sell yourself to the best bidder. I was listening to your show and it is just a modern and expensive way of kissing axx at the 90's style. You are not objective! When talking about the candidates for freeholder you did not even mentioned Carl Zaplinsky. What they are going to close you show if you mention a republican candidate? Or are you going to lose you job? You give the victory to Stack a prepotent and corrupt mayor who recently told the anglos during the Union City First Meeting to pack their bags and leave town if they did not like his policies. Mr. Omelia you show is like the UTN, a front for the HCDO. Shame on you! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Njman posted Message 1908 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2003 at 17:11:01 Subject: Omelia should concentrate on issues Here's a chance for that Hudson County radion program to step out of the Political Gossip world, and to start takling on some seriousissues important to us as a society. Who cares about who's posters have glue, or staples? What does it matter? Nada. But listen.Over 73% of Black children born in Hudson County are born out of wedlock. Young women are becoming grandmothers in their early 30's.This placed such an enormous strain on our Black population and on our society in general. Discuss something of substance. It's such a privledge to have that air time. Why waste it on who putstoo much brerad crumbs in their meatballs? and please stop kissing axx ***************** End Of Article ****************** RINO posted Message 1909 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2003 at 17:17:46 Subject: Re: Pat Omelia a Sell Out! How much O'melia gets paid for his radio show? He does really kiss azz ***************** End Of Article ****************** Arnold posted Message 1910 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2003 at 23:17:57 Subject: Re: Pat Omelia a Sell Out! Pat O'melia can put together a "how-to kiss a**" book ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1911 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 00:05:13 Subject: Re: Pat Omelia a Sell Out! Could you imagine.....the poor azz that gets kissed by Pat. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SpooELuv posted Message 1912 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 00:15:45 Subject: Re: Pat Omelia a Sell Out! All of the Above! : Could you imagine.....the poor azz that gets kissed by Pat. All of the above. Listen to Pat's show! ***************** End Of Article ****************** SpoonELuv posted Message 1913 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 00:18:50 Subject: Re: A question for Mr.(sic)Steven Glazer-All of the Above : My turn... : :Your chest hair is all grey but the hair on top of your hair has no greys..A fashion no- no. Didn't you see last weeks episode of Sex in the city? : :Your shirt looks like it's from Chess-King so either to update the closet or update the picture. : :The side-burns... very Eddie Munster. : : : Where is your top lip? : : : Just saw the link to your picture. : : : Is that a pimple on your nose or are you just happy to see us? Could we see a picture of you now? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Catrillo For County Executive posted Message 1914 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 03:55:54 Subject: Catrillo For County Executive -- Experience catrillo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tell the truth posted Message 1915 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 08:27:13 Subject: Democrats are Communist While it maybe politically unpopular to state that the Democratic Party is the party of Karl Marx the truth is the truth. Even the Mayor is a Socialist of some flavor. So at the core of problem with Jersey City, Hudson County, the State, and the Nation is the inlfuence the Dialectic of Marx has had on our society. The belief that no ones property, labor, and effort belong to them, but rather belongs to the state is false. It should be clearly stated that the Democratic Party is he party of Marx a party of slaves not one that a free person would choose if properly educated. Also Democrats are uneducated Socialist Drones. The amount of political corruption Hudson County has can only be replicated in a police state. I would expect the use of the police for political objective is common. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1916 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 09:33:47 Subject: Re: Pat Omelia a Sell Out! All of the Above! Why should we listen? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1917 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 09:35:22 Subject: Re: A question for Mr.(sic)Steven Glazer-All of the Above You first. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chelsa posted Message 1918 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 10:20:04 Subject: Re: Pat Omelia a Sell Out! All of the Above! I just did. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand? ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 1919 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 10:30:50 Subject: Sell out? Just tell me to who i sold out too. someone owes me some money i guess? Just give me that persons name i'll go collect!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1920 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 10:56:24 Subject: I'm in TOO! : Just tell me to who i sold out too. someone owes me some money i guess? Just give me that persons name i'll go collect!!!! I'm always hearing that I sold out. Let me know where the're buying! ***************** End Of Article ****************** boycout posted Message 1921 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 10:57:13 Subject: Re: Sell out? Pat O'melia is a comunist... boycout his show! Stop the HCDO azz kissers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mayorman posted Message 1922 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 11:00:02 Subject: Cunnigham dont like Pat Cunnigham does not let Pat kiss his azz! Pat's lips are contaminated with caca from Menendez azz. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pat posted Message 1923 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 11:02:43 Subject: Pat and Doria Perfect together Pat O'melia and Joe Doria are getting married!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Carlton McGerk posted Message 1924 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 11:19:18 Subject: Web Site by Committee Watched the Council Caucus on TV last nite. When McGee was questioned why the City web site was in its sorry state he replied that it was not Martin Jackson's fault. The reason, because the City had a web site by committee. He didn't tell anyone who the members of this committe were. The truth is, Martin Jackson is the sole reason for the City's pathetic excuse for a website. McGee claims that Jackson has been busy with many other projects and hasn't been able to give the web site his full attention. That is the reason he wants to hire a consultant. Baloney !!! Martin Jackson has a no show job. He runs errands for the Mayor, he delivers the UTN, he goofs off. He spends practically no time on the web site and it shows. ***************** End Of Article ****************** tell the thruth posted Message 1925 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 11:25:59 Subject: Pat a comunist! Pat O'Melia stop preaching Comunism on your radio show ***************** End Of Article ****************** oh vey posted Message 1926 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 12:19:15 Subject: LEARN how to spell : Pat O'Melia stop preaching Comunism on your radio show ***************** End Of Article ****************** hatepat posted Message 1927 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 12:52:29 Subject: Pat is a C-O-M-M-U-N-I-S-T Pat is now going to teach people in Jersey City how to spell ***************** End Of Article ****************** hatepat posted Message 1928 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 12:57:05 Subject: Is Pat a homo Is Pat a homo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Go To Bed Matthew posted Message 1929 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 15:28:17 Subject: Ask His Lover Matthew : : Is Pat a homo ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1930 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 15:44:16 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Extra , Extra Read All About It posted Message 1931 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 19:15:26 Subject: News Update - A MUST READ EXTRA , EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT !!!! According to well informed sources there are two sealed indictments for Hudson County and they are about to be released. VERY VERY SOON. It is the opinion of some well informed sources that within the next few days the indictments will be made PUBLIC and it is the word out there amongst Hudson County Politicians that both recipients are from the HOBOKEN political circle. It was learned by our sources that Developer Joe Barry and HCDO Chairman/ Senator Bernie Kenny are on the very short list of those who will be getting HIT with said indictments. This has made all the corrupted DEMS very nervous and they are running around trying to seek refuge and trying to cover their ASSES. The word is on this past Tuesday the HCDO had a big POW-WOW at the offices of the Hudson County Executive. The heavy weights were in attendance including Menendez, Rothman and other Democratic Officials who all met to coordinate how to Save the upcoming ELECTION and discussing what type of DAMAGE CONTROL to use in other to save themselves. Strangely missing was Hudson County Democratic Chairman and State Senator Bernie Kenny. Perhaps Kenny had more "pressing matters" to discuss regarding his legal defense. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 1932 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2003 at 21:56:33 Subject: Re: Democrats are Communist ::Sad but pretty true commentary. With increasing government handouts & a class willing to take those handouts, in one aspect, we move further from the ambition, drive & pride that created this democracy. Yet we have a class that still exhibits these traits. Can we survive? : While it maybe politically unpopular to state that the Democratic Party is the party of Karl Marx the truth is the truth. Even the Mayor is a Socialist of some flavor. So at the core of problem with Jersey City, Hudson County, the State, and the Nation is the inlfuence the Dialectic of Marx has had on our society. The belief that no ones property, labor, and effort belong to them, but rather belongs to the state is false. It should be clearly stated that the Democratic Party is he party of Marx a party of slaves not one that a free person would choose if properly educated. Also Democrats are uneducated Socialist Drones. The amount of political corruption Hudson County has can only be replicated in a police state. I would expect the use of the police for political objective is common. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jj posted Message 1933 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 00:23:38 Subject: Hurray to Cunnigham The real democrat! Viva mayor man ***************** End Of Article ****************** Union City posted Message 1934 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 00:34:50 Subject: Brian tell anglos OUT! During the dinner for the hispanic parade. Mayor Brian Stack in front of 300 people stated: "Anyone that does not like my policies, specially the anglos, can pack their bags and move out! ***************** End Of Article ****************** puff the magic dragon posted Message 1935 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 00:35:20 Subject: Re: Hurray to Cunnigham Mayor Man been smoking the wackie weed ***************** End Of Article ****************** puff posted Message 1936 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 00:36:40 Subject: Re: Brian tell anglos OUT! That's strange...I was there and that wasn't said. Maybe you were in the twilight zone ***************** End Of Article ****************** LAVACITY.COM posted Message 1937 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 11:33:47 Subject: Speak Your Mind at Lavacity.com Forums Elections are coming! Speak your mind and shout about your local governments: Edgewater, Guttenberg, North Bergen, Union City, Weehawken and West New York. Post your thoughts and opinions on LAVACITY.COM Forums now! ***************** End Of Article ****************** juju posted Message 1938 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 12:23:27 Subject: Re: Brian tell anglos OUT! Well how was it said! He stated "If people dont like my policies ( after a group of anglo protested for the change of the name of one of the historical park of union city after a famous hispanic) they can move out of union city, I have no place for them. : That's strange...I was there and that wasn't said. : Maybe you were in the twilight zone ***************** End Of Article ****************** unioncityman posted Message 1939 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 12:24:15 Subject: Re: Brian tell anglos OUT! I was there, he said it!!! : Well how was it said! He stated "If people dont like my policies ( after a group of anglo protested for the change of the name of one of the historical park of union city after a famous hispanic) they can move out of union city, I have no place for them. : : That's strange...I was there and that wasn't said. : : Maybe you were in the twilight zone ***************** End Of Article ****************** SpoonELuv posted Message 1940 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 12:40:03 Subject: Mosh Pit is it true that pat and earl morgan are gay lovers why all the pat bashing...what did he ever do If you dont like him dont listen to him by the way, I heard that him and earl met in a west village leather bar a couple of weekends ago and earl is hopelessly in love now and pat is afraid of commitment ***************** End Of Article ****************** Love Child posted Message 1941 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 13:07:12 Subject: Brother Bill Ayaalaa Brother Bill Chief of Stuff Glenn Cunninghams illegitmate son? Whose car was that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Latoya posted Message 1942 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 13:24:14 Subject: Re: Brian tell anglos OUT! Isnt Brian Stack known for beating his wife up? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1943 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 13:27:33 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens, The Urban Times posted Message 1944 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 13:38:24 Subject: Who’s NOT Next-The Non Target Letter INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bulls Eye posted Message 1945 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 14:27:56 Subject: Hey Bernie-check this out!!!! go to this link and there is a message for you. You got at least a 24 hour pass...hot diggity dang http://www.njusao.org/break.html Thursday, Oct. 9, 2003 No News Releases Anticipated Today ***************** End Of Article ****************** Time Is Running Out posted Message 1946 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 18:09:29 Subject: Tick...Tick...Tick....Tick ...... : go to this link and there is a message for you. You got at least a 24 hour pass...hot diggity dang http://www.njusao.org/break.html : Thursday, Oct. 9, 2003 : No News Releases Anticipated Today ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tick...Tick...Tick...Tick..How are you gonna explain this one to Bobby? posted Message 1947 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2003 at 18:41:54 Subject: Re: Hey Stevie- Do I have a surprise for you!!!! A very special surprise for Steve Glazer ***************** End Of Article ****************** Happy Friday All posted Message 1948 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2003 at 01:00:46 Subject: Stop reading this and get back to work! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha TGIF ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens, Urban Times News posted Message 1949 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2003 at 09:54:12 Subject: The Congressman from Scarinci and Hollenbeck jstevens@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** U:T.N. posted Message 1950 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2003 at 09:59:45 Subject: CONGRATULATIONS, SANDY-- GREAT WORK!!! Gannett's McClure wins prestigious award Published by the Gannett State Bureau 10/10/03 By GANNETT STATE BUREAU NEW YORK -- Gannett State Bureau reporter Sandy McClure has been named winner of a 2003 Front Page Award by the Newswomen's Club of New York for her coverage of New Jersey Gov. James E. McGreevey's administration. "Panels of highly respected judges reviewed hundreds of entries before determining which outstanding women in print, broadcast and online media should be given this prestigious award," the organization said in announcing the winners. McClure was singled out for her investigative reporting of stories surrounding McGreevey's controversial aide, Golan Cipel, the early release from prison of a reputed mobster, Angelo Prisco, and a trip to Puerto Rico paid for by a union under federal investigation. "The three stories reflect a tremendous amount of excellent reporting skills. The reporter needed to cultivate important sources in the justice and political communities and piece together intriguing stories detailing the use of political muscle. The reporter presents a convincing picture of connection among the players in each story and how alleged improprieties at the top levels of government in New Jersey came to pass. The stories illuminate political favors and misdeeds that fall trough the cracks much of the time," the judges said of McClure's stories. "We're proud of Sandy's work on these stories and the other outstanding projects she has done for Gannett New Jersey newspapers," said Bob Ingle, bureau chief for Gannett in Trenton. "The readers of our seven dailies in this state and residents of New Jersey in general are the better for her conscientious efforts in journalism. She's one of the best, and deserving of the recognition from her peers." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Can you guess my name? Hint SG posted Message 1951 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2003 at 13:10:28 Subject: . Ok I'll admit it I'm stupid and corrupt and work for the Urban Times News . Ok I'll admit it I'm stupid and corrupt and work for the Urban Times News Ok if the truth be known I'm a troll for the UTN I get paid to watch this board and try to take the edge off of the real truth. Basically I achieve this by telling lies but mostly by detracting from the person telling the truth. So it is a bad thing to help liars like the UTN but I don't get paid very well and do nothing but bother people that post on boards its a great job. By the way I'm paid in a no show job guess which Agency. If you could get away with it you would do it to. Just so you know I do not believe a single thing I post. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Money Washing posted Message 1952 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2003 at 15:54:08 Subject: Re: The Congressman from Scarinci and Hollenbeck I think the shower is for washing the bribes. : jstevens@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dreamer posted Message 1953 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2003 at 10:37:23 Subject: The Beginning of the End The Democrats have all but pulled the rug out from underneath themselves because of their greed. The fact is they controlled everything and the only time they had problems is when they fought with each other for a share of the stolen funds and power. Now we believe the end of corruption is at hand but wait a moment there are still the same people that came from the HCDO. The Mayor is a product of the HCDO and must be removed from office and not allowed to become a Senator. He serves along the same lines of the HCDO and will eventually become another machine. Perhaps after he is gone term limits can be put in place for state office as well as local office limiting the control one person or a group of people can have over the political process. Is it possible to protect ourselves from corruption using a structural means of at least limiting the exposure we have to potentially dangerous corruption? Glenn Cunningham is not clean since he used the HCDO machine to get where he is today and his friends have operated in the same fashion as the HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anthony Chiappone posted Message 1954 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2003 at 14:04:46 Subject: Winner Deserves Handshakes, Not Lawsuits Friday, October 10, 2003 Letters to the Editor The Jersey Journal This letter is in response to Joe Doria's letter to the editor on Sept. 30. First, let me say that I fully understand Joe Doria's disappointment in not being re-elected to the state Assembly. As a legislator he has served our district well. However, it's important to remember that an office holder does not own the seat he or she is elected to, but rather, it is the voters who have the final say in who shall represent them. In the case of the 31st District primary election, the voters have made their choice for Glenn Cunningham for Senate, and Lou Manzo and me, Tony Chiappone, for state Assembly. These selections by the voters were affirmed through a recount of the voters, confirmed by a thorough check of the voting machines, and finally has been upheld in a court of law. The reality is, as victors we should have been greeted by gracious handshakes from the HCDO instead of bitter subpoenas. In regards to the decision handed down by Judge D'Italia, Joe Doria stated in his letter, "The significant fact is that Judge D'Italia found that the Cunningham/Chiappone/Manzo Team received more than $120,000 in illegal contributions." This is a false comment. Judge D'Italia found no such thing. In fact, he ruled that spending caps do not apply to primary elections. Thus contributions received were not illegal. What makes this case unique is that this is probably the first time in New Jersey that an opposition slate has successfully challenged the existing ruling party. The fact is, prior to Judge D'Italia's ruling, entities such as the Hudson County Democratic Organization felt they could legally outspend anyone or any group that challenged it. Is that fair? Is that democracy? Shouldn't everyone vying for office be on the level playing field as the HCDO? The second part of Judge D'Italia's ruling stated that even if a cap did apply to primary elections, the HCDO did not prove, as would be necessary under regular election law, that those expenditures significantly impacted the results of the election. It's important to note the HCDO spent $1.6 million while we spent approximately $350,000. The financial advantage was clearly on their side of the fiscal ledger. One of my goals as state assemblyman will be to examine and amend current election laws so that caps do exist in both primary elections and general elections and so that they are fair for all who choose to run for office. And getting back to the election challenge itself, let's remember the initial basis on which Joe Doria and the HCDO chose to mount their court case. Cries of "massive voter fraud" by Joe Doria and the HCDO were allegations that were splashed all over this very newspaper. In making their case, they alleged that over 2,000 votes in Jersey City were fraudulent, and did not present even one witness or one shred of evidence to substantiate their claim. The fact is Joe Doria and the HCDO dropped their charges of voter fraud once they realized they had no case. At this point, I feel that it's time for Democrats to put this animosity aside and move on and work towards the benefit of the 31st District. There are many important issues in front of us and I look forward to serving the residents of Bayonne and Jersey City and stepping up to the challenge of addressing those issues on a statewide level. ANTHONY CHIAPPONE, Councilman At Large & Democratic Nominee for the State Assembly ***************** End Of Article ****************** LQQK AT THIS! posted Message 1955 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2003 at 09:59:32 Subject: Donald Scarinci on Gov. McGreevey New York Times New Jersey 10/12/03 "'The Jim McGreevey I know is probably the most intelligent governor to server New Jersey since Woodrow Wilson,' said Donald Scarinci, a Hudson County Democratic powerbroker." Yeah, sure... and Rush Limbaugh is really Elvis Presley! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LQQK AT THIS! posted Message 1956 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2003 at 10:01:52 Subject: Donald Scarinci on Gov. McGreevey New York Times New Jersey 10/12/03 . . . "'The Jim McGreevey I know is probably the most intelligent governor to serve New Jersey since Woodrow Wilson,' said Donald Scarinci, a Hudson County Democratic powerbroker." . . . Yeah, sure... and Rush Limbaugh is really Elvis Presley! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 1957 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2003 at 16:16:08 Subject: The McGreevey Team's Ace in the Hole? Why not? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 1958 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2003 at 09:30:55 Subject: Re: Omelia should concentrate on issues Oh stop worrying about the children born out of wedlock, the unemployment problem, drugs, gangs,education or homelessness. We're gonna solve it with the "tiny-tax" so we can use up the space on these boards with things like petunias or daisys? Gazebos or open lawn? THESE are the pressing matters. Oy Vey. : Here's a chance for that Hudson County radion program to step out of the Political Gossip world, and to start takling on some seriousissues important to us as a society. Who cares about who's posters have glue, or staples? What does it matter? Nada. But listen.Over 73% of Black children born in Hudson County are born out of wedlock. Young women are becoming grandmothers in their early 30's.This placed such an enormous strain on our Black population and on our society in general. Discuss something of substance. It's such a privledge to have that air time. Why waste it on who putstoo much brerad crumbs in their meatballs? and please stop kissing axx ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 1959 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2003 at 16:53:02 Subject: Tonites topics. UC Mayor says "You don't like it? Get out!!,, Infantes trial starts, Flea market on the Skyway off ramp, Old Bergen cemetery, Loews theatre gains support, Over haul the JCPA?, all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 1960 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2003 at 18:53:25 Subject: Re: Tonites topics. Patrick, why don't you put your "Tonite's show" post in ALL the Hudson County forums? You may increase your listener base to 10. Cut & paste (then customize where necessary) will take 10 min. Also, you only bring up that "tiny-tax" in the Jersey City forum while, I bet, the rest of the county goes clueless. This is a COUNTY wide issue. Bring it to the appropriate forums because JC is the only place it gets discussed. : UC Mayor says "You don't like it? Get out!!,, Infantes trial starts, Flea market on the Skyway off ramp, Old Bergen cemetery, Loews theatre gains support, Over haul the JCPA?, all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Looking to make a Buck posted Message 1961 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2003 at 21:26:51 Subject: Pat Is Now A Grave Robber Pat - I have the perfect position for you in the grave yard - Keep digging your grave - you are doing a good job. : Patrick, why don't you put your "Tonite's show" post in ALL the Hudson County forums? You may increase your listener base to 10. : Cut & paste (then customize where necessary) will take 10 min. : Also, you only bring up that "tiny-tax" in the Jersey City forum while, I bet, the rest of the county goes clueless. This is a COUNTY wide issue. Bring it to the appropriate forums because JC is the only place it gets discussed. : : UC Mayor says "You don't like it? Get out!!,, Infantes trial starts, Flea market on the Skyway off ramp, Old Bergen cemetery, Loews theatre gains support, Over haul the JCPA?, all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pandorabox posted Message 1962 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2003 at 00:12:46 Subject: Russo die? I heard some people gossiping that Russo die? is this true or just gossip? ***************** End Of Article ****************** mutilane posted Message 1963 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2003 at 00:18:55 Subject: Re: Pat Is Now A Grave Robber Didn't Pat said Doria would win 3 to 1? When Pat endorses a candidate is the kiss of death. Now he is saying great things about Cunnigham? and Stack! Did he deliver the computer to the blind kid in his brand new mercedez paid by for by the people of union city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** recall posted Message 1964 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2003 at 00:27:18 Subject: Support the recall of Brian Stack Well the RECALL in California was effective and we now have the Terminator I siiting in the Governors Chair. You see I have been trying to tell everyone that the System does work and if we unite and bring all the issues out to the PUBLIC CHEITO will be successful in UNION CITY and he will bring an end to all the CAOS and the insanity that is going on in UNION CITY while Brian Stack continues to MORTGAGE the FUTURE of OUR CHILDREN . So if you want to put an end the harrassment and abuse that is going on in UNION CITY, JOIN Jose "CHEITO" Falto. Every person counts and together we could make a real DIFFERENCE in bringing about HONESTY, INTEGRITY & PROFESSIONALISM to our local GOVERNMENT. Support the recall of BPS, join Jose Falto to make a better Union City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Idiot Investor posted Message 1965 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2003 at 11:42:57 Subject: I've been Johnsoned Both Fidelity and Franklin funds are run by families named Johnson both groups of Johnsones have preformed in accordance with their names by trading their own funds against the benefit of the investing public ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1966 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2003 at 12:14:46 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 1967 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2003 at 16:57:11 Subject: Something to think about...... 1. Is it true cannibals don’t eat clowns cause they taste funny? 2. Is atheism a non-prophet organization? 3. Is there another word for synonym? 4. If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages? 5. Would a fly without wings be called a walk? 6. What was the best thing before sliced bread? 7. Can you really have a civil war? 8. If you ate pasta and antipasto would you still be hungry? 9. Whose idea was it to have an "s" in the word lisp? 10. If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done? 11. Why is it called tourist season if we cant shoot them? 12. If your parents never had any kids, is there a good chance you won't either? 13. Do infants enjoy infancy as much as adults enjoy adultery? 14. Why don’t sheep shrink when it rains? 15. What would you if you saw an endangered animal eating an endangered plant? 16. Where do forest rangers go to get away from it all? 17. If a man standing in the forest speaks and there's no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong? 18. Why is the alphabet in that order? Is it because of the song? 19. If one synchronized swimmer drowns, do the others? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1968 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2003 at 17:00:49 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1969 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2003 at 17:34:05 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show, 10/13/03 To hear last night's show Online, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another Hour of Pat Seeking a Political Job posted Message 1970 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2003 at 18:12:37 Subject: Pat O'Melia - Waste of Time : To hear last night's show Online, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** By JAMES McQUEENY posted Message 1971 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2003 at 19:23:24 Subject: A pen of steel and a heart of gold A pen of steel and a heart of gold By JAMES McQUEENY New Jersey is a place where media treasures can be hard to find. And when one of them disappears, it's all the sadder, as it was this week with the untimely death of Peter Weiss, the political columnist for the Jersey Journal in Hudson County. He passed away on September 6 at 60 after having had heart surgery a few weeks ago. Weiss practiced a style of journalism rarely seen anymore anywhere, never mind New Jersey. He practiced it for more than three decades at a newspaper that itself is a throwback to when a reporter and a paper wove themselves into the fabric of a community's everyday life. Weiss was the paper's long-time political columnist. In Hudson County, that's like being the sheriff of Dodge City. The Jersey Journal never abandoned the city where it grew up, Jersey City. Its offices are located right off Journal Square in a building as gritty as its coverage. Unlike the newsrooms of papers that migrated to the suburbs, the Journal's newsroom would never be mistaken for the insurance claims offices that most now resemble. Weiss once told me that computers were accepted into the newsroom years after they arrived at other papers, and even then they were taken in grumpily, "like sus_picious boarders." But the newsroom camaraderie was high, intense, and it was due largely to Weiss, whom I first got to know when we were cub reporters starting our careers on competing papers in Hudson County. Weiss' Political Whirl column made him Hudson County's cop on the beat in a rough political neighborhood. You could almost envision him twirling the nightstick as he passed under the streetlight. How tough was the beat? One of my predecessors on the now-deservedly defunct newspaper I worked for, walked the political beat like Weiss but not the same way. This guy would ask politicians to pay him for a mention in his column, and the price was higher if they wanted their opponents maligned. He actually handed out a printed price list that I kept for many years. It went something like: "Favorable Mention - $10" "Unfavorable Mention of Opponent - $20." Former Gov. Brendan Byrne once said that Hudson County was the only place on the planet where life after death can be proven - the dead are still voting, aren't they? In those years, a beginning reporter like Weiss had to keep his eyes on the politicians in front of him and on the unscrupulous competitors behind him. The style of Weiss and the Journal was, and is, the personification of local news - make that really local news. The headline on the story next to his page-one obituary was "3 Firefighters Are Bitten by Insects." Most reporters these days see changing beats as necessary to "advance" their careers. So too many reporters hardly invest the time and attention needed to know the communities they are assigned to cover. Readers are left to suffer through too many he said/she said stories that are bereft of local flavor, perspective and even interest. Weiss stayed put, centered and honest. He was focused on politics and a Hudson County community that knew it. That community also knew where he was coming from and where to find him. And that was, invariably, in jeans and a T-shirt, at almost any time, in the newsroom. He kept a tie in his desk drawer, or so he said, though many were left to wonder how he would ever fasten it around a collarless shirt. In the couple of years that we competitors, it seemed that we were always covering indictments, trials and elections - a world of harsh verdicts. Weiss gave these stories his snap, professional judgments, but I never once saw him succumb to harsh judgments against the persons involved. He had a pen of steel but a heart of gold. Weiss was nobody's fool, either. Thirty or more years on the beat helps you there. When politicians tried to spin him, he always listened, which, often to their lament, didn't signal agreement, as his column would later reveal. Weiss' most animated response to any outrageous political spin would be a trademark squeaky, almost frumpy, cackle, an indiscretion he would quickly try to hide behind his hand. Maybe a roll of his eyes would follow. Readers knew they were getting Weiss' truthful best in every column, even with the journalists' term "objectivity" under assault as of late. After I left the county for other journalism assignments, we became such good friends that he was the best man at my wedding years later. And out of friendship and professional gratitude for making me a better journalist, I continually sent job offers his way. When I complained once that Weiss either threw the offers away or gave them to younger reporters he mentored, a mutual friend said that while Weiss might entertain leaving the newspaper, he would never think about leaving its readers. He loved them, and they loved him. When an editor at the paper called me at my home for comments on his life for the obit, I said that surely there were big-name politicians and officials who would be lining up to get quoted. I wouldn't be needed. The editor confided that he had indeed spoken to a long line of those people before me, but nobody could finish a sentence without crying - the last one being Rep. Robert Menendez, one of the most frequent targets of Weiss' columns. James McQueeny, a former Star-Ledger Washington bureau chief and political analyst for News12 New Jersey, is the head of Winning Strategies, a communications company based in New Jersey and Washington, D.C. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pats*cks posted Message 1972 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2003 at 21:27:31 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia - Waste of Time He did talk a lot of GARBAGE about Glen Cunnigham and now he is the best of the world. I heard stack gave him a job... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Edwin Rios posted Message 1973 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2003 at 06:40:57 Subject: Re: RALLY TO RECALL MCGREEVEY : MCGREEVEY IS EVIL AND CORRUPT RALLY TO RECALL THROW MCGREEVEY OUT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Voter posted Message 1974 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2003 at 08:04:14 Subject: Ayala is working for a better Jersey City Ayala has been working hard at his job and serving the people of Jersey City. All to often this board fails to say you are doing a good job and thank you. Hats off to Mayor Cunningham for having a good staff and Ayala in no small part contributes to that effort. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Power behind the throne posted Message 1975 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2003 at 08:06:26 Subject: Ayala could be the defacto Mayor When you look at the record of the Mayor Ayalas work is clearly seen. The Mayor when he is elected Senator will need a strong presence to run the city I believe Ayala is that person maybe the next Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** New Blood posted Message 1976 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2003 at 08:13:00 Subject: Restructuring the HCDO The HCDO has been destroyed and needs to be rebuilt. The old alliances and infighting renders the Mayor and others unable to achieve that goal. Ayala has been part of the new group of political figures capable of rebuilding the HCDO. Glenn Cunningham has acted wisely in providing Ayala with the stepping stone to achieve this. While Glenn is part of a quickly vanishing past regime Ayala is fresh and availible to fill the void left in the wake of investigations. So as Glenn is voted in the Senate spot and holds the Mayors office his ultimated down fall will happen. Glenn broke ranks with the HCDO but not before acquiring its ability to get him elected Mayor. Ayala can fill that void after Glenn leaves office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jill posted Message 1977 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2003 at 08:53:11 Subject: Re: 1st Amendment and the Web : : :I JUST READ YOUR POSTING WHY WOULD ANYONE GIVE YOU A HARD TIME ABOUT THE 1ST AMMED. HOW DOES THAT APPLY TO A WEB CHAT ROOM? : I don't understand. What do you mean? i love the first amendment i think about it everyday and i do all in my power to keep my standards based on the first amendment. Thanks to your posting i have found a new way of life!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 1978 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2003 at 13:19:17 Subject: Paul Byrne, Joe Barry Indicted How many more shoes now to drop? - - - Developer and political operative indicted in corruption probe By JEFFREY GOLD The Associated Press 10/15/2003, 11:30 a.m. ET NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — A developer paid the ranking Hudson County politician and his operative nearly $140,000 in return for securing federal and state grants and loans for projects, federal authorities charged. A 16-count indictment was unsealed Wednesday with the surrender of Joseph Barry, president of Hoboken-based Applied Development Co., and Paul J. Byrne, an associate of the former top elected official in Hudson County, Robert C. Janiszewski. The bribery scheme provided $8.8 million in loans and grants for Barry and his company, according to the federal indictment, which was handed up Tuesday. The charges stem from video and audio recordings that Janiszewski made with Barry, Byrne and others as he assisted the government's continuing probe of Hudson County corruption, the U.S. Attorney's Office said. Barry, 63, of Peapack-Gladstone, and Byrne, 57, of Jersey City, were to be formally told of the charges at a hearing late Wednesday morning. The charges against Barry include bribery, conspiracy and fraud, which each carry up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Byrne faces fraud and fraud charges, as well attempted extortion for an official, which carries up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Some of the schemes were outlined during testimony this spring from Janiszewski, the former Hudson County executive. Janiszewski, a prosecution witness in the corruption trial of six-term Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon, said that he and Byrne agreed to accept kickbacks from Barry, whose Hoboken firm built and operates thousands of apartments there and in Jersey City. In return, they helped Barry win federal subsidies and county approval for his developments, Janiszewski said. In a statement issued by his lawyer's office, Barry said, "The facts in this case will prove my innocence." "For the past 35 years I have worked hard and honestly in the revitalization of Hoboken and other New Jersey urban communities. The redevelopment has benefited the families who had lived in the declining neighborhoods for generations and those who moved to the neighborhoods after revitalization," he said. His attorney, Joseph A. Hayden Jr., said the defense would attack the legality of using Janiszewski as an informant for more than two years "when he should have been removed immediately — in order to further a federal fishing expedition." "The truth is Robert Janiszewski is a convicted extortionist who, according to court testimony, habitually violated the public trust for years," Hayden said in a statement. Byrne has denied accepting payoffs. U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie said the indictment "rounds out the picture of the depth of corruption in Hudson County and the atmosphere that made it business as usual." "This is damning evidence of a corrupt bribery scheme spanning years, in which Barry was able to grease the skids to help finance his considerable development of the Hudson County waterfront," Christie said. "It's galling that Mr. Barry, someone of considerable financial means, received public money through bribery, while other non-corrupted entrepreneurs could have gotten it legitimately." Colon was convicted of passing more than $10,000 in bribes to Janiszewski to help her boyfriend get county contracts. She resigned and awaits sentencing. Janiszewski, a longtime Democratic power broker, pleaded guilty in October 2002 to taking more than $100,000 in bribes and also awaits sentencing. Several other politicians and businessmen in Hudson County have also been charged, including for Hoboken Mayor Anthony J. Russo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jcman posted Message 1979 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2003 at 13:37:48 Subject: Re: Ayala is working for a better Jersey City who that hell is ayala? ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 1980 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2003 at 13:46:18 Subject: Manolo we missed you, where have you been? LOL ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1981 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2003 at 14:22:45 Subject: Michael Aron Interviews Paul Byrne To hear the archived Online audio recording, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 1982 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2003 at 20:26:23 Subject: Barry/Byrne -- Indictment -- News Release 10-15-2003 -- Barry/Byrne -- Indictment -- News Release Hudson County Waterfront Developer Joseph Barry and Janiszewski "Consultant" Indicted, Taken Into Custody NEWARK - Hudson County waterfront developer Joseph Barry has been charged in a federal corruption Indictment with paying nearly $140,000 to former county Executive Robert Janiszewski and an associate, in return for Janiszewski's official action in securing federal and state grants and loans for Barry development projects, U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie announced. Also named in the Indictment is Paul J. Byrne, a long-time associate and political advisor to Janiszewski and "consultant," who allegedly took a share of the bribes from Barry and acted as an intermediary for some of the payments from Barry to Janiszewski. In all, the Indictment details $8.8 million in federal and state loans and grants that Barry and his enterprise, the Applied Companies, secured through bribery. The Indictment was returned by a grand jury yesterday and unsealed when both men surrendered this morning to Special Agents of the FBI in Newark. Barry, 63, of Peapack-Gladstone, and Byrne, 57, of Jersey City, appeared earlier today before U.S. Magistrate Judge Mark Falk in Newark. Both defendants were released on $500,000 bond, to be secured by real estate equity. Among other things, the Indictment describes what is alleged to be Barry's "payoff sheet," with detailed entries of bribe amounts, dates and notations specifying to which government loan or grant the payoff was connected. The grants specified in the payoff sheet correspond to the public funding sources in connection with large-scale commercial and/or residential developments Barry's companies were undertaking on the so-called "Gold Coast" Hoboken waterfront, according to the Indictment. The payoffs were allegedly made between about June 1996 and July 2001. The cash bribe amounts ranged from $14,900 to $30,000, with Janiszewski and Byrne taking their "share" of the payoffs from Barry. "This is damning evidence of a corrupt bribery scheme spanning years, in which Barry was able to grease the skids to help finance his considerable development of the Hudson County waterfront," Christie said. "It's galling that Mr. Barry, someone of considerable financial means, received public money through bribery, while other non-corrupted entrepreneurs could have gotten it legitimately." "This Indictment rounds out the picture of the depth of corruption in Hudson County and the atmosphere that made it business as usual," Christie said. The investigation involved large numbers of consensually made video- and audio-taped recordings of Barry, Byrne and others, made my Janiszewski as he cooperated in the government's investigation. Janiszewski's covert cooperation began in November/December 2000. He resigned as county executive in early September 2001, thus his covert cooperation lasted approximately nine months, not the two years stated by counsel for the defendants. The investigation into Hudson County corruption is continuing, Christie said. The 16-count Indictment charges Barry and Byrne with five counts of mail or wire fraud, each carrying a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine; one count each of conspiracy to offer and give corrupt payments in connection with federally funded programs, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine; four counts against Barry of offering and giving bribes in specific amounts, each count carrying a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine; Byrne with three counts of attempted extortion under color of official right (for seeking payoffs, on behalf of Janiszewski from accountant Gerald Lisa and his firm, in connection with the award of a renewable contract in the maximum amount of $270,000), each count carrying a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine; Byrne with three counts of tax evasion for failing to report or pay taxes on more than $900,000 in income, including the bribe income, on his federal tax returns, each carrying a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $100,000 fine. The Applied Companies' development projects, the grants and loans Barry received as part of the bribery scheme are as follows: • The Hoboken Shipyard project, a mixed-use retail and residential development on approximately 45 acres of land and water, bounded by 12th Street, 16th Street and the Hudson River. Approximately $6.69 million in federal loan guarantees were awarded to the Applied Companies by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development in July 1998, through an application submitted by Hudson County's Division of Housing and Community Development. • An additional $1 million Economic Development Initiative grand was awarded by HUD to the Hudson County government. HUD originally earmarked the funds for use in a proposed hotel in Jersey City, but through a request by county Executive Janiszewski, the money eventually went to and already approved Section 108 loan guarantee application for the Shipyard project. • The Waterfront Walkway project in Hoboken, an Applied Companies real estate project, which involved the construction of a publicly accessible pedestrian walkway along the waterfront, adjacent to the Shipyard project. The federally funded Transportation Enhancement Program authorized approximately $1.036 million, of which the Applied Companies have received approximately $968,897. It was applied for by the Hudson County Improvement Authority and Hudson Transportation Management Association. • The 12th-14th Street Extension, which involved the construction of an additional roadway to extend those streets in Hoboken to the Hudson River for public access to the Waterfront Walkway and Shipyard project. In 1995 and 1996, the Local Aid Division of the New Jersey Department of Transportation allocated approximately $1.064 million to the Hudson County Engineering Department for that project. • The 15th Street Extension to similarly extend that street to the Hudson River, the Waterfront Walkway and Shipyard project. Through the NJDOT funding the Allied Companies received another $365,000 in 1999 from Hudson County Engineering Department. Christie credited Special Agents of the FBI, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Louie F. Allen in Newark; and Special Agents of the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation section in Newark, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Patricia J. Haynes. The case is being prosecuted by Deputy Chief Jeffrey Clark, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Deborah Goldklang, of the U.S. Attorney's Office Special Prosecutions Division. -end- Defense Counsel: Barry - Joseph Hayden, Esq. and James Plaisted, Esq. Byrne - John T. Coyle, Esq. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 1983 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2003 at 22:55:05 Subject: Slimy Toad Ayala is Cunningham's Chief of Staff. A sleazier, sneakier slimy toad has never been seen. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ayala Groupie posted Message 1984 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2003 at 22:59:22 Subject: Nice job Bill ! Good job posting all the messages Bill. I'm sure the grass roots movement to elect you Mayor will start any day now. Not !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CheezStake posted Message 1985 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2003 at 07:28:26 Subject: What Do They Have In Common Janiszewski, Colon, Byrne, Braker, Russo, Sandoval, Barry? They all supported Cunningham for Mayor in 2001. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yes you are correct posted Message 1986 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2003 at 07:59:53 Subject: Re: What Do They Have In Common In addition his whole staff comes from the ranks of the HCDO. Same crew different name. Perhaps the corruption has changed its name but not its nature. 100% for me and nobody else Glenn must realize he is the same as the rest and with that one can only expect a letter from the Feds to arrive shortly maybe thats why some of the senior staff are looking for the exits. : Janiszewski, Colon, Byrne, Braker, Russo, Sandoval, Barry? They all supported Cunningham for Mayor in 2001. ***************** End Of Article ****************** KENNYwatch posted Message 1987 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2003 at 12:56:54 Subject: Happenings At The Kenny Home EXTRA , EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT !! SUICIDE WATCH AT THE KENNY HOME ! ALL SHARP INSTRUMENTS HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM BERNIE. EVEN BUTER KNIVES ARE TABOO. ROPES ,RIBBONS , NECKTIES , EVEN SHOELACES HAVE BEEN REMOVED. A RED FACED SENATOR KENNY IS FORCED TO WEAR EMBARASSING "CLIP ON" NERD TIES. HE HAS BEEN ASSIGNED A 24 HOUR "MINDER" WHO STAYS WITH HIM ALL THE TIME. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BullPup posted Message 1988 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2003 at 14:21:58 Subject: Re: Slimy Toad Ya really think so? : Ayala is Cunningham's Chief of Staff. A sleazier, sneakier slimy toad has never been seen. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 1989 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2003 at 14:54:27 Subject: SUPREME COURT THROWS OUT HCDO EMERGENT APPEAL OF ELECTION CASE sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Alfalfa posted Message 1990 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2003 at 15:10:45 Subject: Re: SUPREME COURT THROWS OUT HCDO EMERGENT APPEAL OF ELECTION CASE HCDO spokesman Javier Inclan could not be reached for comment. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 1991 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2003 at 22:44:46 Subject: Re: Slimy Toad :: Snazzy dresser though. But I tend to agree with Weezil : Ya really think so? : : Ayala is Cunningham's Chief of Staff. A sleazier, sneakier slimy toad has never been seen. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WEEKEND AT BERNIE'S posted Message 1992 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2003 at 18:14:40 Subject: Re: Happenings At The Kenny Home DELIVERED VACANT...BARRY HAS BRIBED TWO GENERATIONS OF THE SAME FAMILY. THAT'S GOTTA BELONG IN GUINESS. : EXTRA , EXTRA : READ ALL ABOUT IT !! : SUICIDE WATCH AT THE KENNY HOME ! : ALL SHARP INSTRUMENTS HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM BERNIE. : EVEN BUTER KNIVES ARE TABOO. : ROPES ,RIBBONS , NECKTIES , EVEN SHOELACES HAVE BEEN REMOVED. : A RED FACED SENATOR KENNY IS FORCED TO WEAR EMBARASSING "CLIP ON" NERD TIES. : HE HAS BEEN ASSIGNED A 24 HOUR "MINDER" WHO STAYS WITH HIM ALL THE TIME. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Recall Cunningham posted Message 1993 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2003 at 08:13:39 Subject: Cunningham, Ayala and others throw the bums out Why wait for the election lets throw Glenn out of office. The reason would be he spent so much time running for senate that he forgot about us back home those that put him there. Let Glenn be the Senator but lets get a new mayor and fast. Glenn is already looking for a home in Trenton. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 1994 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2003 at 19:20:51 Subject: Re: SUPREME COURT THROWS OUT HCDO EMERGENT APPEAL OF ELECTION CASE : ROFLMAO : HCDO spokesman Javier Inclan could not be reached for comment. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stoolie posted Message 1995 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2003 at 10:20:14 Subject: Gaynors is losers Shameless losers apologists for DeGise, Mr. Ethics. Lies to us about no new taxes then campaigns about how ethical he is. Start by telling the truth. On his watch corruption is every where and Menendez sells computers to the county for his campaign fund contributors, the high bidders. That would be Jeff Persilay. Tell us about ethics Tommy boy. Serve at the pleasure of Menendez and by the way, the Gaynors still think that they are going to get jobs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Herpetologist posted Message 1996 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2003 at 14:11:20 Subject: Re: Slimy Toad Could not agree more with Weezil Deal Gaughan about Ayala. I guess one chief of staff can see the failures of another and Ayala comes up way short. But we have a major difference. Toads are not slimy. Frogs are slimy. : :: Snazzy dresser though. But I tend to agree with Weezil : : Ya really think so? : : : Ayala is Cunningham's Chief of Staff. A sleazier, sneakier slimy toad has never been seen. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 1997 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2003 at 17:45:53 Subject: Tonites show. Guest JC icon Sam DiFeo, Angry employees at the JC employment and training? How can that be?,, Car theft down 25% in JC, all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** EyesWIdeOpen posted Message 1998 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2003 at 22:44:43 Subject: Cunningham isn't smart enough to get rid of Ayala... Hasn't anyone seen through this low life Bill Ayala? He has no talent, no clue and no class. He is a power hungry yutz who s-cks up to the Mayor and somehow manages to dodge the bullets heading his way. He crashes city cars, insults US Senators, alienates elected officials, fires anyone with an ounce of independence and intelligence, shields the Mayor from the truth, harrasses female city hall workers with unwanted advances, isolates JC amongst the cities of our great state, sets JC Dems against eachother for his own benefit, creates political upheaval so he can justify his own existence, disaffects the core constituency that elected this Mayor through his gruff and dismissive attitude, and generally alienates anyone he comes in contact with. He's an idiot ....plain and simple. He was even rejected by the Lautenberg people who he supposedly worked with when the old guy went up for election this time around. The Mayor tried to sluff him off for a while by "lending" him to their campaign. And they said THANKS BUT NO FREAKIN WAY DO WE WANT HIM AROUND!!!! Eventually Cunningham will either come to his senses and ditch the idiot, or Ayala will ultimately be this administration's undoing. The folks in the north want to take Cunningham down?? This barfly bets that a good place to start would be Ayala's background. Does this guy even have a college degree?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Catrillo For County Executive posted Message 1999 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 05:29:14 Subject: Vote against the open-space tax Monday, October 13, 2003 Letters to the Editor The Jersey Journal On Nov. 4, the citizens of Hudson County will be asked to vote on a new "special assessment" to their property tax bill. This "mini-tax" - County Executive Tom DeGise's phrase - would then be used as a matching fund to seek state Green Acres funds for "[thin].[thin].[thin].[thin]open space and farmland preservation." In other words, homeowners are being asked to pay a new special tax even though they have already paid for the acquisition of open space through their funding of Green Acres bonds. You are being asked to pay twice for the same thing. And "farmland preservation" in Hudson County needs no further comment. Of course, no one disagrees with the need for more open space, but why is this need so critical that it calls for a new, special tax? There are literally hundreds of problems facing Hudson County residents that could use extra funding. Should there be a special tax to fight the spread of the HIV virus? Should there be a special tax to combat teen pregnancy? How about a special tax to end traffic congestion, and promote cleaner air? The point is that there is no end to the list of problems that need more funding. This is why I oppose the new "mini-tax" favored by my opponent for County Executive Tom DeGise. Once we begin to go down the road of special assessments to address specific problems, there will be no end to the parade of special assessments. The County tax burden - already increased by 8 percent this year by Tom DeGise - is too much to bear right now. Therefore, I urge all voters to vote "no" on Tom DeGise's mini-tax. The taxpayers of Hudson County are already overtaxed. To ask for a new tax to address a problem that is already being funded from our present taxes is an insult to the intelligence of every homeowner in Hudson County. CHARLES J. CATRILLO Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2000 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 05:38:09 Subject: The New Jersey State Dinosaur Visit the Link to learn more about these ancient behemoths. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 2001 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 06:53:55 Subject: Re: Vote against the open-space tax : Thank you Mr. Catrillo. I have been saying the same thing for months, maybe not so eloquently, in another forum & was called among other things, ignorant. We, in Jersey City & Hudson County, face problems much more pressing than how to acquire more open space. I would really like to know where the heck you are going to find any space period in towns like Guttenberg & EastNewark. In other towns, all the open space there is has been pretty much used up & the towns that do have potential space, face massive remediation. Finally, if you think for one minute that these funds will remain dedicated or $0.01, then I have a bridge to sell you. : Monday, October 13, 2003 : Letters to the Editor : The Jersey Journal : On Nov. 4, the citizens of Hudson County will be asked to vote on a new "special assessment" to their property tax bill. This "mini-tax" - County Executive Tom DeGise's phrase - would then be used as a matching fund to seek state Green Acres funds for "[thin].[thin].[thin].[thin]open space and farmland preservation." : In other words, homeowners are being asked to pay a new special tax even though they have already paid for the acquisition of open space through their funding of Green Acres bonds. You are being asked to pay twice for the same thing. And "farmland preservation" in Hudson County needs no further comment. : Of course, no one disagrees with the need for more open space, but why is this need so critical that it calls for a new, special tax? : There are literally hundreds of problems facing Hudson County residents that could use extra funding. Should there be a special tax to fight the spread of the HIV virus? Should there be a special tax to combat teen pregnancy? How about a special tax to end traffic congestion, and promote cleaner air? : The point is that there is no end to the list of problems that need more funding. This is why I oppose the new "mini-tax" favored by my opponent for County Executive Tom DeGise. Once we begin to go down the road of special assessments to address specific problems, there will be no end to the parade of special assessments. The County tax burden - already increased by 8 percent this year by Tom DeGise - is too much to bear right now. : Therefore, I urge all voters to vote "no" on Tom DeGise's mini-tax. The taxpayers of Hudson County are already overtaxed. To ask for a new tax to address a problem that is already being funded from our present taxes is an insult to the intelligence of every homeowner in Hudson County. : CHARLES J. CATRILLO Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 2002 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 07:01:50 Subject: Re: Slimy Toad : Weezil is Gorgon! Chief of Stuff & President of the City Council? Hmmm, interesting. (Anyone who doesn't think he is not the President of the Council need only attend a few meetings to see what I mean.) : Could not agree more with Weezil Deal Gaughan about Ayala. I guess one chief of staff can see the failures of another and Ayala comes up way short. But we have a major difference. : Toads are not slimy. Frogs are slimy. : : :: Snazzy dresser though. But I tend to agree with Weezil : : : Ya really think so? : : : : Ayala is Cunningham's Chief of Staff. A sleazier, sneakier slimy toad has never been seen. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stop taxing me for your pocket posted Message 2003 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 07:16:41 Subject: Dems and Republicans steal our money You cannot trust any of the politicians they steal the tax funds and violate our trust. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fug Bucker posted Message 2004 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 08:15:28 Subject: True Cost of Ayala Ayala is costing Cunningham popularity and support of people with talent and ability that Ayala does not have. This know nothing loser's only talent is to attach himself to Cunningham like a tic and drive away anybody with any ability who tend to make him look like the zero that he is. When Cunningham offered his services to Lautenberg at no cost to help Lautenberg, Lautenberg's staff said thanks but no thanks. He has no natural ability, no education, no experience, and no skills. He is qualified for absolutely nothing, but he makes important decisions negating the work of talented professionals. Besides that he is a liar and an unprincipaled opportunist who will jump ship as soon as anybody is crazy enough to offer him one dollar more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2005 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 10:37:22 Subject: Not Gaughan !!! Guess again ! : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2006 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 12:13:07 Subject: Re: Not Gaughan !!! Hey that's my M.O. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That is not true posted Message 2007 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 12:39:30 Subject: Re: True Cost of Ayala His work has been good and Cunningham would have removed him if it wasn't. So allow Cunningham the luxury of having the staff he wants even if it does measure up to your standards. Of course Cunningham is an idiot himself and should be removed from office his only asset is his good nature the rest is a total wash. : Ayala is costing Cunningham popularity and support of people with talent and ability that Ayala does not have. This know nothing loser's only talent is to attach himself to Cunningham like a tic and drive away anybody with any ability who tend to make him look like the zero that he is. When Cunningham offered his services to Lautenberg at no cost to help Lautenberg, Lautenberg's staff said thanks but no thanks. He has no natural ability, no education, no experience, and no skills. He is qualified for absolutely nothing, but he makes important decisions negating the work of talented professionals. Besides that he is a liar and an unprincipaled opportunist who will jump ship as soon as anybody is crazy enough to offer him one dollar more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fug Bucker posted Message 2008 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 13:22:35 Subject: Cost of Ayala by Ayala Thank you for sharing that, Bill. You are the only one of that opinion anywhere in the world. F.B. : His work has been good and Cunningham would have removed him if it wasn't. So allow Cunningham the luxury of having the staff he wants even if it does measure up to your standards. Of course Cunningham is an idiot himself and should be removed from office his only asset is his good nature the rest is a total wash. : : Ayala is costing Cunningham popularity and support of people with talent and ability that Ayala does not have. This know nothing loser's only talent is to attach himself to Cunningham like a tic and drive away anybody with any ability who tend to make him look like the zero that he is. When Cunningham offered his services to Lautenberg at no cost to help Lautenberg, Lautenberg's staff said thanks but no thanks. He has no natural ability, no education, no experience, and no skills. He is qualified for absolutely nothing, but he makes important decisions negating the work of talented professionals. Besides that he is a liar and an unprincipaled opportunist who will jump ship as soon as anybody is crazy enough to offer him one dollar more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bull Pup posted Message 2009 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 13:28:49 Subject: Re: Not Gaughan !!! Deny, Deny, Deny. Kinda Weezly aint it? Maybe that's why Ayala cheeses you off so much... : Hey that's my M.O. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2010 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 16:04:17 Subject: Can you say Sycophant ? Ayala has no credibility. He masquerades as a professional, ethical person while looking the other way as Cunningham and his lackeys make their sleazy deals. He is a venal person who fits in very well with the Cunningham crew. See no evil, hear no evil and dummy up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fug Bucker posted Message 2011 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 16:15:58 Subject: Sick Of Say What? Who's that? Huh? Not Psycho, just dumb. Wanna see a pachyderm? : Ayala has no credibility. He masquerades as a professional, ethical person while looking the other way as Cunningham and his lackeys make their sleazy deals. : He is a venal person who fits in very well with the Cunningham crew. See no evil, hear no evil and dummy up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2012 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2003 at 21:43:19 Subject: Re: True Cost of Ayala Just like you Stevie....... ***************** End Of Article ****************** BERNICE ROBINSON posted Message 2013 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2003 at 01:11:03 Subject: IT IS ABOUT TIME CONGRADS ON YOUR ELECTION WIN. YOU'VE EARNED IT. I TOLD YOU YEARS AGO YOU SHOULD RUN, WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG. CONGRADS ON THE JUDGE D'LTALIA DECISION, HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A WISE AND FAIR JUDGE. I HAVE NO ALWAYS AGREED WITH HIM, BUT I KNEW HE WAS RIGHT. AS FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO HAVE A RECALL BECAUSE OF IT, I CAN ONLY SAY " SOUR GRAPES". IF A HIRE POSITION IS IN YOUR HEART, GO FOR IT. YOU HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH PEOPLE TO BACK YOU. GOD SPEED MY FRIEND, AND ALWAYS KEEP THE WIND TO YOUR BACK. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chuck O'Tay posted Message 2014 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2003 at 10:09:24 Subject: Farmland Preservation in Hudson County I must vehemently negate the position posited by candidate Charles Catrillo that the preservation of farmland in Hudson County is, per se, absurd. Mr. Catrillo is most conveniently ignoring the Funny Farm that is on 595 Newark Ave in Jersey City. This is a capital-intensive operation and increased taxation is required to fund it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2015 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2003 at 10:39:42 Subject: SENATOR SCHNITZEL? Not too often do I have the opportunity to enjoy any missives from the Democratic Republic of North Hudson, but one of our spies provided the material that you see above. Nice coinky-dink that the North Bergen taxpayers are paying to advertise for Mayor (and State SENATOR) Sacco's senior lunch in the SENATOR LOUNGE with SENATOR SCHNITZEL on the menu. All would be restaurateurs listen up: don't name your joint the Cafeteria Bacteria, call it the County Executive or the Congressional Lounge. You'll be guaranteed a steady stream of taxbleed, bread and circus events ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2016 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2003 at 11:23:12 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show for 10/20/03 To hear the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steve Kush posted Message 2017 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2003 at 13:15:26 Subject: Camden's Third Assemblyman For Immediate Release For additional information contact: Kush and Associates (Steve Kush) Phone: 201-920-2124 Email: steve@kushandassociates.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CAMDEN’S THIRD ASSEMBLYMAN Sires Obviously Owes South Jersey Power Brokers Loyalty Weehawken, NJ (October 17, 2003) - 33rd District Republican Assembly candidates Elise DiNardo and Jose Munoz questioned Assembly speaker Sires’ loyalty today. Shortly after the Democrats took control of the Assembly, Governor McGreevey decided to derail Assemblyman Joseph Doria’s opportunity to become Assembly speaker by supporting previously little-known Sires. South Jersey Democrat boss George Norcross and Camden Assemblyman Joe Roberts led the fight against Doria. Elise DiNardo asked, “How can Sires be expected to fight for the taxpayers of the 33rd District when he owes his rise to Speaker to Camden County leaders?” “Every time we turn around the state is sending money to Camden,” DiNardo continued. “ Norcross and Roberts hand-picked Sires. Now when they put their hand out for Camden, Sires will be there with them. We need leadership in this district, not someone beholden to Camden’s political bosses.” Jose Munoz added, “Norcross and Roberts fought for Sires to become Speaker. Now when they put their hand out for Camden, Sires will be there with them. If Sires remains in the Assembly he will simply become Camden‘s third Assemblyman.” # # # ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2018 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2003 at 15:16:37 Subject: Remember when? Remember when McGreevey promised Menendez that Doria would be speaker? Seems that South Jersey wasn't able to pull Doria around on a leash. . . To view the NJN News coverage, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steve Kush posted Message 2019 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2003 at 14:28:43 Subject: Sires Is Silent When Hoboken Is Denied Aid NEWS FROM ELISE DINARDO AND JOSE MUNOZ FOR ASSEMBLY 33RD LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT NEWS RELEASE For Immediate Release For additional information contact: Kush and Associates (Steve Kush) Phone: 201-920-2124 Email: steve@kushandassociates.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CAMDEN’S THIRD ASSEMBLY SHOWS HIS LOYALTY Sires Stood Shoulder To Shoulder With Roberts For Camden Aid But Is Silent When Hoboken Is Denied Aid Weehawken, NJ (October 22, 2003) - The state of New Jersey denied a request of about $500,000 in extraordinary aid. According to a recent news report the state’s Department of Community Affairs said Hoboken was denied aid because the proposed budget doesn’t contain a property tax increase. “What I find amazing is Hoboken, a city in Assemblyman Sires’ district, is denied aid and he is silent,” Assembly candidate Elise DiNardo said. “Sires voted to send $175 million to Camden and does nothing to help Hoboken, in his own district.” Assembly candidate Jose Munoz added, “Sires’ close relationship with South Jersey leaders, George Norcross and Assemblyman Roberts, who backed him to become the Assembly Speaker definitely affects his ability to be loyal to his district.” DiNardo concluded, “Perhaps if Sires fought to stop Governor McGreevey from handing out 700 new non-classified jobs for the politically connected worth $54 million Hoboken would have been given aid.” # # # ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frank Hague posted Message 2020 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 11:01:29 Subject: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired Is it a coincidence that once Brian Dorf was fired that Cunningham has been on a winning streak? DORF was fired because he was a rat and leaked information to Donald Scarinci. Nobody likes a rat no matter how good his hair is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Toby posted Message 2021 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 11:06:54 Subject: I thought Dorf was fired for laziness Wasn't he fired by more Hudson politico's than anyone in history? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Niccolo` posted Message 2022 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 11:12:07 Subject: Dorf's a parisite! He lives off of his Dad's money and his brother's estate! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Babe Ruth posted Message 2023 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 11:22:33 Subject: Check your spelling!!!! I object to the harsh tone used against "parasites" First, how hard can it be to use spell check! Second, comparing Parasites (who are a valuable part of the world's ecology) to Brian Dorf, is offensive to Parasites. We need to distinguish between a necessary organism in Nature's food chain from Brian Dorf for which there is no justification. He was a mole for the HCDO, got fired from every job he had, drives around in his dead brother's corvette, and lives off of his daddy. And think of this. Of all the real winners down in City Hall, Dorf is the only one to manange to get himself fired. And yes, the Cunningham Team has been on a big winning streak since he was canned. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joe D. - Yankees rule!!!! posted Message 2024 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 11:29:39 Subject: Don't insult parasites Brian "Dorfed" up the administration for a year. No wonder the other side seemed to have the inside stuff at City Hall. All hail Benedict Dorf!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anonymous Commentator posted Message 2025 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 12:50:17 Subject: Re: GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER,” CONT…A SCANDAL THAT KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND WORSE What I would be interested in is to see the sources and evidence that Mr Glazer has garnered to write this article. If this is all true, I would prefer to see the evidence myself and make an informed decision based on such. As of now the writing style in Mr Glazer's articles hardly seems objective and unbiased as would be the case in true journalism, but rather it seems to be more of the tabloid variety. Additionally, the presentation of his article makes it appear as if everyone associated with Jersey City Medical Center is corrupt and immoral, which I hardly believe would be the case. If there is truly a scandal involving the Liberty Healthcare Administration, I would like to know. But if this is just some attempt to garner more readers by its sensationalism, that is just comtemptible. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anonymous Commentator posted Message 2026 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 12:57:01 Subject: Re: GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER,” CONT…A SCANDAL THAT KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND WORSE : What I would be interested in is to see the sources and evidence that Mr Glazer has garnered to write this article. If this is all true, I would prefer to see the evidence myself and make an informed decision based on such. : As of now the writing style in Mr Glazer's articles hardly seems objective and unbiased as would be the case in true journalism, but rather it seems to be more of the tabloid variety. : Additionally, the presentation of his article makes it appear as if everyone associated with Jersey City Medical Center is corrupt and immoral, which I hardly believe would be the case. If there is truly a scandal involving the Liberty Healthcare Administration, I would like to know. But if this is just some attempt to garner more readers by its sensationalism, that is just contemptible. I have seen the Surgical Dept Tax Return forms and it certainly does seem questionable that Mr Metsch all of a sudden went from an Dr of Public Heath to a MD. I would be interested in seeing more of this type of evidence presented. If this is all true, why is there not more legal action taken to correct this corruption? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 2027 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 15:55:24 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired :: I thought his hair & goatee made him look like a potential candidate for the lead in a revival of Damn Yankees. : Is it a coincidence that once Brian Dorf was fired that Cunningham has been on a winning streak? : DORF was fired because he was a rat and leaked information to Donald Scarinci. : Nobody likes a rat no matter how good his hair is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dudleytallgrasseduright posted Message 2028 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 16:40:11 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired Hey BJ....who is Dorf ? I'm so out of touch. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Brian Dorf posted Message 2029 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 19:57:28 Subject: Vulgar But Typical To those who read and post on this message board: I received a call today to look at this board. I was a bit astonished to find that my name had been drawn into the venemous exchange going on here. Since leaving Jersey City I have avoided everything to do with politics and I haven't voiced an opinion on any issues nor activities of the administration there. But it has become apparent from a review of postings here that Bill Ayala has become a target for criticism again. And since I have been told he uses many aliases to post on boards like this one, I have no doubt of two things. First he attributes some of the less favorable comments posted here to me. He is mistaken. And second he has chosen to vent in a typically immature and vulgar way. To draw the death of my brother into his political mud-fight is disgusting, yet typifies the psychopathic nature of this individual and ills of this administration. I have never before heard so many negative comments from so many people about one individual as I have about Bill Ayala. And once again he has missed his target. Bill, I have no interest in being party to your mud-slinging. And I will cheer the day when you are flushed from the political pipes of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fed Up on the Cliffs posted Message 2030 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 21:54:59 Subject: Mayor Turner I would like to give Mayor Richard Turner a big shame on you. While he has done a great job with the keeping taxes down in Weehawken he has failed miserably in other areas. For one he put his tail between his legs and hid when Brian Stack tore apart his Police Department over the death of a Union City teen during a scuffle with a Police Officer. For one the officer was off duty and for another he is innocent until prover guilty. Mayor you should have stood by your department. Mayor Turner has also failed as a leader by being nothing more that Albio Sires' stool pigeon in the recent assembly race, but what else is to be expected by a man who stood side by side with Robert Jeniswski all those years. He uses his power to control his interests and not those of the people. Maybe he was a better choice than the WIN team, but it only makes him the lesser of two evils. Lets all hope that this young woman who is running for the state assembly seat will not only silence house speaker Albio Sires , but also send Mayor Turner into early retirement. CHANGE IS EMINENT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Agreed posted Message 2031 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 21:56:33 Subject: Re: Mayor Turner : I would like to give Mayor Richard Turner a big shame on you. While he has done a great job with the keeping taxes down in Weehawken he has failed miserably in other areas. For one he put his tail between his legs and hid when Brian Stack tore apart his Police Department over the death of a Union City teen during a scuffle with a Police Officer. For one the officer was off duty and for another he is innocent until prover guilty. Mayor you should have stood by your department. Mayor Turner has also failed as a leader by being nothing more that Albio Sires' stool pigeon in the recent assembly race, but what else is to be expected by a man who stood side by side with Robert Jeniswski all those years. He uses his power to control his interests and not those of the people. Maybe he was a better choice than the WIN team, but it only makes him the lesser of two evils. Lets all hope that this young woman who is running for the state assembly seat will not only silence house speaker Albio Sires , but also send Mayor Turner into early retirement. CHANGE IS EMINENT! See you soon Weehawken and You will be saying boo hoo as this town will see something new. Sorry Mayor but your time is up and enough has been enough ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 2032 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 22:59:58 Subject: WOW !!!! Brian, if it is indeed you posting this, kudos to you for using your own name and fighting back. I've not always agreed with your choice of employers. You might call Gerry McCann, Bob Janiszewski and Glenn Cunningham the rogues gallery of Hudson County politics. But to have someone bring up your dead brother is typical of the many low blows delivered in this forum. It is reprehensible. The one thing I do agree with you on is Bill Ayala. The man is venal, two-faced and totally untrustworthy. He is a worthy chief of staff for one of the worst Administrations in Jersey City's history. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who cares about has beens posted Message 2033 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2003 at 23:12:24 Subject: Dorf, Ayala, and Chakotay are all full of it You people must think highly of yourselves. Nothing could further from the truth you are all trash in reality. Your lack of shame allows you to continue to bother good people with the suggestions that any of you matter. A truck driver, and ex-poltical crook and Chakotay idiot of the board. : Brian, if it is indeed you posting this, kudos to you for using your own name and fighting back. : I've not always agreed with your choice of employers. You might call Gerry McCann, Bob Janiszewski and Glenn Cunningham the rogues gallery of Hudson County politics. But to have someone bring up your dead brother is typical of the many low blows delivered in this forum. It is reprehensible. : The one thing I do agree with you on is Bill Ayala. The man is venal, two-faced and totally untrustworthy. He is a worthy chief of staff for one of the worst Administrations in Jersey City's history. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jester posted Message 2034 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2003 at 07:05:24 Subject: Cunningham is a joke and should be removed So they seem to have lost the recipe for ice again at the mayors office. How often do you hear intellegent comments about anything from Glenn. The answer is never it where not for Ayala he would have no one to tie his shoes. Basically Glenn Cunningham is the poster child for ADD gone wrong and if the people of Jersey City do not remove him he will through ignorance destroy the city and the county. Glenn's IQ is somewhere between a soil sample and a light switch Jersey City needs a real leader not some greeter. Ayala maybe the only answer to the idiot now in office and Dorf should take it as a statment of honor his removal from the Mayors office. Glenn is a good story gone bad and getting worse. Glenn and other people believe in is their time in the sun well the sun sets rather quickly on fools and idiots Good Bye Glenn wave nicely to the people on you're way to Allenwood. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cunningham is just stupid posted Message 2035 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2003 at 07:10:35 Subject: Ayala the Duck and Dorf the Dork Ayala the Duck quacks his way into everything making even dummer comments than his mentor Glenn. At least get some table manners guys the spots and stains on your clothing is amazing considering all the dry cleaning places the sponsor of this madness owns. Bobby boy find another monkey Glenn is really out of his element and not able to serve the people why not use Dork he is for sale and thats the important thing to have in elected officials is'nt it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's revenge posted Message 2036 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2003 at 07:18:38 Subject: Cunningham, Ayala, and Dorf start remedial idiots education Look guys the voters want someone who is their friend and all you need to do is play race cards and shake hands let me do the real deals. Stop trying to think you are not capable of running a complexed urban structure like Jersey City first try a leggo set and try not to cut your hands on the edges. I would come back in 5 minutes to make sure they have not eaten one of the blocks they have an appetite for things that belong to other people like contracts awarded to their friends. End the Cunningham Machine only because its like the clown car at the circus the only purpose it serves is to pack as many clowns as possible into its trunk and Ayala and Glenn are one clown to many. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's revenge posted Message 2037 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2003 at 07:21:40 Subject: Bobby's monkey gets a hairball Look what he spit on the rug Glenn the monkey has a hairball I think we shall call it Ayala the duck. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Twerp O'tay posted Message 2038 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2003 at 09:36:56 Subject: Jason Blair for County Communication Director Why settle for second best? For County Communication (and Policy) Director we should get us a master liar instead of the middling muddler we've got now ***************** End Of Article ****************** RUNAROUND SUE posted Message 2039 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2003 at 11:50:31 Subject: AYALA FIGHTS BACK ONLY WAY HE KNOWS HOW-DIRTY LOW BLOWS AT DORF AND DORFS DEAD BROTHER. D0RF IS GONE. HE IS NOT THE PROBLEM. AYALA IS STILL HERE GUMMING UP THE WORKS THIS GUY MANAGES TO ALIENATE EVERYBODY HE COMES IN CONTACT WITH AND THEN TORPEDOES THEM ASSASINATING THEIR CHARACTER. CUNNINGHAM LISTENS TO THIS MORON AND BELIEVES HIM. CUNNINGHAM HAS NOT NOTICED YET THAT ANYBODY WHO IS NOT AYALA IS EITHER AN ENEMY OR INCOMPETENT, ACCORDING TO AYALA. ANY IDEA THAT DOES NOT COME FROM AYALA IS NO GOOD, EVEN IF AYALA HAS NO IDEA OF HIS OWN. AYALA IS BUSY LOOKING FOR HIS NEXT JOB AT GLENNS EXPENSE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Confused posted Message 2040 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2003 at 12:28:56 Subject: Re: AYALA FIGHTS BACK How did Dorf and his deceased brother become the topic of discussion here? I mean hasn't he been gone for a year or so? This board seems to have stooped to a new low when people target a guy and his family like that. : ONLY WAY HE KNOWS HOW-DIRTY LOW BLOWS AT DORF AND DORFS DEAD BROTHER. D0RF IS GONE. HE IS NOT THE PROBLEM. AYALA IS STILL HERE GUMMING UP THE WORKS THIS GUY MANAGES TO ALIENATE EVERYBODY HE COMES IN CONTACT WITH AND THEN TORPEDOES THEM ASSASINATING THEIR CHARACTER. CUNNINGHAM LISTENS TO THIS MORON AND BELIEVES HIM. CUNNINGHAM HAS NOT NOTICED YET THAT ANYBODY WHO IS NOT AYALA IS EITHER AN ENEMY OR INCOMPETENT, ACCORDING TO AYALA. ANY IDEA THAT DOES NOT COME FROM AYALA IS NO GOOD, EVEN IF AYALA HAS NO IDEA OF HIS OWN. AYALA IS BUSY LOOKING FOR HIS NEXT JOB AT GLENNS EXPENSE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glenn's organ grinder posted Message 2041 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2003 at 13:17:18 Subject: Bobby the monkey trainer Forget Glenn and Ayala Bobby should have trained his monkey better. Maybe Glenn is like the now famous tiger in Las Vegas attacking its trainer. Glenn's a monkey with a pet duck called Ayala Dork is no longer an issue he is history having been replaced by a pet duck. Monkeys hate to have pets smarter than they are so good bye Dork hello duck. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 2042 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2003 at 13:22:30 Subject: Glenn gets caught taking bribes along with PATO An under cover agent from the the FBI has taken several videos of Glenn taking bribes in Bananas thats why Jersey City is a Banana Republic. Monkey Man the Mayor and his pet duck Ayala PATO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 2043 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2003 at 13:35:00 Subject: Monos and Pato struggle to figure out how to The Monkey Mayor and Pato struggle to figure out how to run a city. They have the sense that if you wear nice clothing and pretend to know what you are doing that works. Imagine a Monkey and a Duck driving a car down an interstate well thats exactly what is happening in the Jersey City Government total absolute idiots run the government. But everything is OK, fine, just doing swell as long as they give the right contracts to the right people. The scenario is very similar to Animal Farm some Pigs are more equal that other Pigs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2044 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2003 at 15:58:39 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 2045 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2003 at 23:13:40 Subject: Typical Spoken like a true Cunningham Kool Aid drinker. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Donna posted Message 2046 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2003 at 00:12:59 Subject: Re: HCDO ALERT LIFE IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM : Revenge is a dish served best when cold! What did you do to have to go into the program? I sued the government back in the early 80's and won. Ket ne know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2047 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2003 at 09:04:25 Subject: Re: HCDO ALERT LIFE IN THE WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM Ket ne know? Hmmmmmmmmmm.... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steve Kush posted Message 2048 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2003 at 12:32:39 Subject: SIRES: “TIME IS JUST NOT RIGHT” FOR ETHICS REFORM For Immediate Release For additional information contact: Kush and Associates (Steve Kush) Phone: 201-920-2124 Email: steve@kushandassociates.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- SIRES: “TIME IS JUST NOT RIGHT” FOR ETHICS REFORM Coincidentally Sires Has Accepted Campaign Contributions From Joe Barry and Gerard Lisa. Weehawken, NJ (October 27, 2003) - Republican Assembly candidates Elise DiNardo and Jose Munoz continue to question Sires loyalty to the taxpayers of the 33rd Legislative District. According to a recent news report from Gannett State Bureau, “Pay-to- play reforms the governor has touted lie stuck on a shelf, held there by McGreevey’s hand-picked Assembly Speaker Albio Sires, government watchdog Common Cause says.” Coincidentally the Assembly Speaker has, throughout his political career, accepted campaign contributions from Joseph Barry, who has been indicted on a laundry list of charges and Gerard Lisa who has pled guilty to charges stemming from the recent Hudson County political scandal that has, so far, resulted in the conviction of one elected official. “The time for ethics reform could never be more right,” Assembly candidate Elise DiNardo said. “Given Sires’ connections to Abreu, who according to published reports helped raise money for Sires, and the fact that Sires has accepted campaign contributions from Barry and Lisa Mr. Sires should be leading the charge for ethics reform.” Assembly candidate Jose Munoz said, “Considering Mr. Sires’ ties to these unsavory characters he should tell the taxpayers of this district exactly what his connection is with these characters. The people deserve to know why the Assembly Speaker refused to post a bill against pay-to-play that had bipartisan support.” DiNardo added, “A bill, with bipartisan support, passed the state Senate that would end pay-to-play. Sires claimed he did not post that bill because it did not include local governments. A later bill that included local governments also passed the state Senate and Sires never posted that bill. Mr. Sires needs to explain to the people of this district why he has done nothing to reform ethics in this state.” # # # ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2049 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2003 at 16:47:24 Subject: Statement of Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham on Jersey City's graduation from the "Distressed Cities" program and welcome of DCA Commissioner Susan Bass-Levin. For the complete text of the speech, please click the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DD posted Message 2050 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2003 at 17:00:26 Subject: Re: Statement of Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham on Jersey City's graduation from the "Distressed Cities" program and welcome of DCA Commissioner Susan Bass-Levin. Great now they can steal even more....o'vey ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2051 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2003 at 17:39:15 Subject: Tonites show. Mayor Cunningham removes JC from distressed Cities program, Halloween 2003 free for the kids of JC at the Landmark Loews theatre, all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio..Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2052 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2003 at 19:05:14 Subject: Bergen Record: 32nd District Democrats very confident 32nd District Democrats very confident Monday, October 27, 2003 Bergen Record By PETER J. SAMPSON With a streak of 16 election victories between them and token opposition ahead, state Sen. Nicholas J. Sacco and his Democratic running mates in the Assembly aren't fretting the Nov. 4 showdown in the 32nd District. Hudson County's heavily Democratic precincts haven't sent a Republican to Trenton since 1985, when GOP candidates rode Gov. Thomas H. Kean's coattails to briefly capture the four Assembly seats in the 32nd and 33rd districts. Outgunned in terms of name-recognition, money, and organization, this year's challengers concede that they have little hope of breaking the Democrats' lock. But they say they are in the race to offer voters a choice. Sacco, who is seeking a fourth term, and running mates Anthony Impreveduto of Secaucus and Joan Quigley of Jersey City, who are seeking their ninth and sixth terms, respectively, are waging low-key campaigns. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's revenge posted Message 2053 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2003 at 21:22:17 Subject: Where is Steve Glazer we someone to beat up? I miss little Stevey he was such fun to kick around where oh where did he go? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tony Chiappone posted Message 2054 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2003 at 22:05:24 Subject: Pleasure to Meet You in Person! Anthony, it was a pleasure to meet you in person today...Keep up the good work here with this terrific site! Tony :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 2055 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2003 at 23:12:11 Subject: The Emperor's New Clothes Now that Glenn has put the City into debt for the next gazillion years he has gotten the City off the distressed Cities list. Not that Jersey City was gonna get that much aid anyway, now that Mayor Man has alienated everyone in Trenton. Now the real "fun" begins. Glenn will no longer have to petition Trenton for permission on new hires. In order to assure his reelection, he will now give jobs to every hack and crony in Ward F. And also line the pockets of his closest lackeys with outrageous pay increases. We can only hope the Federal authorities will get these guys before they go any further. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anthony Chiappone posted Message 2056 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2003 at 09:52:59 Subject: TV Ad Online Video: Chiappone For Assembly 2003 To view the video Online, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2057 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2003 at 11:25:21 Subject: NJN Video: Jersey City Off Distressed Cities List To access the Online Video, please click the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Russo For Council 2003 posted Message 2058 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2003 at 15:26:27 Subject: Hoboken City Workers Removing Campaign Signs Mayor Dave Roberts has 3 city workers and a police Sgt. removing political signs in a third ward. The police Sgt. was ordered by the mayor through the police chief to escort the city workers as they publicly campaigned for the candidate endorsed by the mayor, while on city time. The city claims to have a city ordinance to remove these posters, when in fact those utility polls do not belong to the city and the ordinance does not pertain to bills or posters displayed on utlity polls. Enclosed are pictures of the city workers performing this act. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 10-07-2002 posted Message 2059 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2003 at 15:50:35 Subject: Janiszewski Bribery Plea Casts a Wide Net Janiszewski Bribery Plea Casts a Wide Net Jim Edwards New Jersey Law Journal 10-07-2002 As he pleaded guilty in federal court last Thursday, former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski named a county politician with ties to Sen. Robert Torricelli and Rep. Robert Menendez as being one of two people who bribed him for his help in steering county work to contractors. The statement was among the signs that the U.S. attorney's probe into Hudson County is far from over. "There's certainly more to come," said assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Clark, deputy chief of the criminal division. Janiszewski admitted taking more than $100,000 in bribes to recommend contractors to Hudson's freeholders and failing to report the bribe money on his 1999 tax returns. He pleaded guilty to one count of extortion under 18 U.S.C. 1951 and one count of tax evasion under 26 U.S.C. 7201. Janiszewski told U.S. District Judge Joel Pisano that one of the people who ferried about $20,000 in bribes to him was Nidia Davila-Colon, a longtime county freeholder. Colon is also Torricelli's director of community development and a former director of constituent services for Menendez. She is running for re-election on a ticket organized and endorsed by Menendez. Colon, who did not return a call for comment, has been neither charged nor named as a suspect by prosecutors. As part of his plea allocution, however, Janiszewski alleged that Colon's former boyfriend, Dr. Oscar Sandoval, gave Colon $5,000 to give to Janiszewski on a number of occasions. Sandoval's company, Hudson County Psychiatric Associates in Union City, provides services for the county jail and other institutions. Sandoval did not return a call seeking comment. The last delivery, in November, was in Atlantic City, when Janiszewski was taped receiving money in his hotel room at a League of Municipalities convention. Three sources familiar with the investigation previously told the Law Journal that Sandoval was the person on that tape handing Janiszewski the bribe. Assistant U.S. Attorney Clark declined to specify which cash deliveries he believes Colon was involved in. Colon's name first surfaced last June when Gerald McCann -- a former Jersey City mayor who was convicted of corruption himself -- accused her of accepting improper gifts from Sandoval. Colon was quoted by the Jersey Journal on June 12 as saying she was going to sue over the allegation. "I have never hid the fact that I am dating Dr. Sandoval. . . . Nothing I did was improper." The paper said she abstained from voting on his contracts. Another indication that more is to come is that the Sandoval-Colon accusation accounted for only $20,000 of the $100,000 in bribes described by Clark and Janiszewski. Clark declines to talk about who paid the remaining $80,000. "Investigations like this tend to yield other cooperators," he says. Colon is not one of those cooperators, says her attorney, Peter Willis of Willis & Young in Jersey City. "She absolutely denies having any knowledge of the allegations that she knowingly transferred monies from Sandoval to the county executive," he says. The U.S. Attorney's Office has approached Colon seeking an interview. She refuses to talk to the office directly, but Willis met Friday with Clark to discuss Colon's position. "She has no information to give them that would be of any use," he says. Her relationship with Sandoval has ended, he adds. Willis also says Colon remains employed by Torricelli and is not dropping out of the November freeholder race. "This is a situation that's fluid," he says. Paul Byrne, an adviser to Janiszewski and a longtime Hudson County political powerbroker, may be a part of the investigation, according to two lawyers close to it. Asked whether he was a target of the probe, Byrne says "not to my knowledge" and declines further comment. Also on the radar of the U.S. Attorney's Office, but performing more likely as a witness, is Geoffrey Perselay, a solo attorney in Mountainside, according to a lawyer familiar with the investigation. Perselay, who runs a consultancy to assist vendors seeking to win contracts with the county, is a former county administrator under Janiszewski and was once his campaign treasurer. In January 2001, Perselay pushed for a $3 million contract for Aramark to provide food for Hudson County Jail. The contract eventually went to Aramark, the lowest bidder. Darren Maloney, the county's former purchasing agent and now chief financial officer for West New York, is troubled that the "former county administrator was a consultant for a vendor that was doing business with the county." Neither Perselay nor freeholders who voiced concerns about the contract at the time returned calls for comment. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 10-27-2003 posted Message 2060 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2003 at 16:07:42 Subject: Christie and Defense Lawyer Face Off Over Length of an Informant's Leash; Christie and Defense Lawyer Face Off Over Length of an Informant's Leash; Longshot strategy hopes to derail U.S. attorney's public corruption probe New Jersey Law Journal October 27, 2003 By Jim Edwards This time last year, U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie outlined his strategy for bringing indictments against corrupt politicians: "We try to move as quickly as we possibly can, especially when it involves people who are currently in public office," he said in two interviews with the Law Journal. "It's not something that we're going to drag our feet on." When asked whether this was a new policy, Christie said, "There is one now. I do not believe that these are things that we have the right to allow to linger. We should move quickly. Many times you are dealing with people who are still in public office. They have to be moved swiftly ... in fairness to the public." Since then, more than 30 indictments have been handed up in corruption cases - a clip unparalleled in recent years. But in the past two weeks, the speed of Christie's removal of corrupt officials has come in for criticism following the indictment of two men accused of paying bribes to former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski. Joseph Hayden Jr., the lawyer for one of the men, says prosecutors shilly-shallied after discovering that Janiszewski took bribes for contracts. They left him in place to run the county for at least nine months, and perhaps as long as two years, while he wore a wire. "He should have been removed immediately," Hayden said in a statement. Hayden intends to argue that by leaving Janiszewski in office, the federal prosecutor deprived Hudson County residents of the honest services of local government - a gross due-process violation that warrants dismissal of the case against his client, Hoboken real estate magnate Joe Barry. To bolster that contention, Hayden has retained former state Supreme Court Justice Gary Stein to brief the issue. So, for observers of Christie's anticorruption drive, the question is: Could Hayden have found a weakness in the case? Or is this merely an effort to distract the jury pool with misgivings about prosecutorial conduct? The stakes are high: Janiszewski is the mother lode for Hudson corruption cases. The FBI taped him taking a bribe from a contractor at Bally's hotel in Atlantic City in the fall of 1999. Arresting him the same day outside the building after the cash was passed, the agents persuaded him to wear a wire and tape his associates. Until he resigned in 2001, Janiszewski continued to run the county, the local Democratic Party and regional agencies that handled millions in federal grant money. "If [Hayden] is successful, it definitely has an impact on every prosecution that's been brought where Bobby J is a central figure," says Peter Willis of Willis & Young in Jersey City. Willis represented former Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila-Colon, who was convicted this year of ferrying bribes to Janiszewski. The ripples would reach a swath of yet-unfiled cases percolating in Hudson. Christie is dismissive of Hayden's suggestion that federal authorities were in some way complicit in Janiszewski's corruption by monitoring his governance with a sword of Damocles. The day he learned of Hayden's strategy, Christie told reporters, "Bring it on!" "The methods employed here have been used time and again with great success and have always been legally defensible," he said last week through his spokesman. "After Mr. Janiszewki's activities were uncovered, and he began cooperating with the investigation, he was under the microscope of this office and the FBI with no opportunity to continue with corrupt activities." The defense strategy should have come as no surprise to the U.S. attorney. The partner at Roseland's Walder, Hayden & Brogan has used a similar tactic many times before - twice this year already. The strategy works something like this: When a defendant comes under media scrutiny, start by attacking the propriety of the prosecution before the trial gets under way and focus on the evidence later. In May, Hayden made just such a play in the Jayson Williams case, in which the former basketball star is accused of fatally shooting his chauffeur. He asked the judge for a review of the personnel files of five state troopers whom he claimed were racist or had engaged in racial profiling. By simply making his motion, Hayden planted a seed of doubt in the potential jury pool as to investigators' motives. Four months earlier, in the same case, Hayden successfully persuaded the Appellate Division to review whether the prosecution had wronged his client by repeatedly telling the grand jury that he had maintained his right to silence. [The issue was later made moot by a superceding set of grand jury hearings.] In 1995, when he represented a man accused of robbing a jewelry store, Hayden demanded tapes made by the U.S. Attorney's Office of the conversations of Somerset County Prosecutor Nicholas Bissell Jr. The prosecutor later committed suicide when the federal investigation of his corruption became known. And in 1990, Hayden gave this commentary to the Law Journal about state Attorney General Robert Del Tufo's use of two grand juries to prosecute a Teaneck policeman for the fatal shooting of a teenager: "[A] lawyer's first line of attack should be to analyze [the] proceedings and try to show whether the prosecution was so biased that it amounted to a denial of due process." That's exactly what Hayden is doing now for real estate mogul Joe Barry. Hayden and Stein decline to detail their defense or cite supporting statutes or cases. "Whatever arguments we'll advance will be advanced in papers to be filed in federal court," Stein says. Speaking privately, because they have had a prior involvement with the case, former federal prosecutors do not believe the law supports Hayden. The main problem for Hayden, they say, is that even if what he alleges is generally true, it is still hard to show that this specifically affected Barry or his co-indictee, political consultant Paul Byrne, and amounted to a constitutional matter. Jersey City's Willis agrees. "It can't be in its generalized form," he says. But that may not matter. Even if Hayden loses a motion to dismiss, he may succeed in empanelling a jury with one or two members who harbor questions about why the FBI was allowed to run the county for so long. Willis believes that if Hayden can convince a court that Janiszewski was the FBI's puppet, it would lend support to some sort of entrapment argument. In other words, if it were not for the FBI leaving Janiszewski in place, Barry and Byrne [and Colon and indicted freeholder William Braker, for that matter] could not have committed their crimes. "I think he's onto something," Willis says. An entrapment defense can be tricky territory. Willis mounted one for Freeholder Colon, and she was convicted in June of three counts of mail fraud and two counts of aiding attempted extortion. It also runs the risk that potential jurors, fed up with the parade of defendants shuttling between Jersey City and Newark's U.S. District Court, might approve of the FBI's oversight of Hudson County. Christie does not go quite that far, but in his statement last week he said, "We certainly do not believe that the public -- particularly the taxpaying citizens of Hudson County -- would object to the lawful methods employed if they ultimately weeded out those who were stealing from them under the cover of their appointed or elected positions." He added, "The investigative methods had the desired effect of rounding up the greatest number of culpable individuals while assuring that the top targets in this case, Mr. Janiszewski, Mr. Barry, Mr. Byrne, Nidia Colon and others, are made to face the consequences of their actions." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Corey posted Message 2061 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2003 at 00:29:36 Subject: Why The Republican Party Let Me Down There is a major problem lurking in the Republican Party right now. I don't know if anyone has noticed... but it's no longer the party of smaller government. I can tell you 5 simple reasons why the Republicans let me down: 1) The budgets keep going up, decade after decade. Check the facts and step on the scale. 2) When was the last time Republicans truly privatized a program? In their whole existence have they ever made a permanent change for less government? They will "reform" things from time to time, but they never privatize programs. 3) Taxes are still going up by a Republican led US Congress and President. Don't be fooled... they are only slowing the rate of taxation. They call this a cut, just like Democrats called Medicare a cut in the 90's. 4) Republicans focus on the wrong issues like flag burning, prayer in school, vouchers, gay marriage, affirmative action, illegal immigration, etc. All these issues don't get to the heart of the matter which is the destructive power, size and influence of government. If Republicans don't want illegal immigrants to use tax-payer funded services, why not privatize the programs instead of fighting the illegal immigrants? Why go after these freedom-loving immigrants who only want to help the economy and make a living like me and you? Why support vouchers when Big Government is in charge of the program and determines who is "suited" for "proper" funding? Is this really freedom and smaller government? I don't think so. 5) And the last reason why they let me down is that the nature of the Republican Party is for big government! Yes, Republicans need government. Why? Because there are many programs or issues they want to regulate or fund like: more immigration police, FCC, NASA, US Post Office, public transportation, farm subsidies, corporate welfare, war on terrorism, wars all over the world, war on drugs, prescription drugs, more Social Security, and thousands of other programs and issues. I was a Republican for 3 years, but during that whole time I had my problems with the Republican Party and their broken promises. I looked for alternatives and challenged my principles, and around the year 2000 I joined the Libertarian Party because it's the only moral, small government, principled party out there. Now they are the largest 3rd party in the US and still continuing to grow. I just wanted to share some of my thoughts with the board since there are some open-minded people out there who think there is something wrong and want to make a change. If you are curious and want more information about the Libertarian Party you can go to www.lp.org. I'd also like to hear your comments. Corey ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2062 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2003 at 03:27:22 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2063 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2003 at 08:22:21 Subject: Star Ledger: The unconventional 'Mayor Man' The unconventional 'Mayor Man' Cunningham's likely Senate win could make him a 'wild card' in Trenton Star Ledger Wednesday, October 29, 2003 BY JEFF WHELAN Star-Ledger Staff His supporters praise him as a strong-willed mayor and a maverick who took on his own party's formidable political machine and won. His campaign even distributed comic books depicting him as a crime-fighting action hero -- "Mayor Man." To his enemies, he is a ruthless politician who lets his allies do the dirty work of smearing his opponents in unusually personal attacks. He is Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham. He already has considerable political clout as the first African-American mayor of the state's second largest city. Next Tuesday, Cunningham, 60, is expected to easily win election to the state Senate, expanding his power significantly. . . . For the complete article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2064 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2003 at 12:15:45 Subject: NJN Video: Teaching Ethics In Hudson County To view the NJN video Online, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2065 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2003 at 16:18:32 Subject: Halloween. Mayor Glenn D Cunningham, The JC Municipal Council, Friends of the Loews and Pat O'Melia host of Hudson County's Talking Present. Halloween 2003 at the Landmark Loews Theatre 54 Journal Square...Live Stage show, Costume Contest three age groups 5 to 8....9 to 12...and 13 to 16, all kids get a trick or treat bag! Admission is free all kids must be accompanied by an adult. Show starts 7PM door close at 8PM. ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2066 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2003 at 16:28:30 Subject: Re: Halloween. Pat lets make this about the kids only....No adults permitted without a child! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2067 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2003 at 19:07:15 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking - October 27, 2003 To access Pat O'Melia's broadcast of October 27, 2003 Online, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 2068 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2003 at 22:01:18 Subject: Glenn will be there. Masquerading as a Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** red from the hood posted Message 2069 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2003 at 22:13:20 Subject: Re: NJN Video: Teaching Ethics In Hudson County : To view the NJN video Online, please click on the Link. ...ethics and hudson in the same sentance...like ayala and intelligence in the same sentence...somethings just make ya laugh ***************** End Of Article ****************** :- posted Message 2070 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2003 at 22:17:58 Subject: Re: Halloween. : Pat lets make this about the kids only....No adults permitted without a child! Then mayor man better bring his chief of staff. ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2071 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2003 at 23:32:46 Subject: Re: Halloween. LMFAO ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2072 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2003 at 06:07:47 Subject: Cunningham Endorsed By Republican Candidate in 31st Senate Race Cunningham Endorsed By Republican Candidate in 31st Senate Race ***************** End Of Article ****************** e posted Message 2073 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2003 at 07:30:26 Subject: Re: GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER,” CONT…A SCANDAL THAT KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND WORSE : GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER,” CONT…A SCANDAL THAT KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND WORSE : Urban Times News : By Steven Glazer, sglazer@urbantimesnews.com this stuff is true ***************** End Of Article ****************** Insider posted Message 2074 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2003 at 21:29:09 Subject: why dorf was fired i worked with dorf. he's not a bad guy, he stepped where he didn't belong and attempted to make peace with the north. so he was labeled a traitor for it. and actually, he survived thru more transitions than any other pr director in jc history. guess he did his job. and if you knew your history you would have remembered it was the mayors who kept getting "fired" not the pr guy. he was a survivor. : Wasn't he fired by more Hudson politico's than anyone in history? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 2075 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2003 at 22:40:36 Subject: Republicans are a joke !!!! This one sounds like it's right out of the Arango playbook. People in these forums are always whining about having a real alternative to the Democratic Party in Hudson County. Well, your alternative is Jose Arango and the gang that couldn't shoot straight. I'm guessing Ms. Mendiola will get some sort of payoff for this. The Republicans will have to pray for the return of their great God Schundler. What a joke !!! Arango has been in bed with both Schundler and Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City's version of The Comeback Kid posted Message 2076 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 31, 2003 at 04:58:06 Subject: Old Acquaintance Jersey City's version of The Comeback Kid Thursday, October 30, 2003 By STEVE STRUNSKY ASSOCIATED PRESS JERSEY CITY - The church basement where Gerry McCann was trying to romance votes out of two dozen elderly ladies seemed worlds away from the richly appointed mayor's office where others had tried to woo him before his ouster in 1992. But McCann was in his element nonetheless. Reveling in every political point he scored at Holy Rosary Senior Citizens Club, McCann was stumping in his latest campaign to recapture elected office, this time in a bid for Hudson County freeholder. Whether reminiscing about the sausage bread at an Italian bakery, or how safe neighborhoods used to be before television and air conditioning swept people off their stoops, McCann, 53, showed he still knew just which buttons to push. "I liked his talk about building all these things for the senior citizens," said Kay Romano, 79, who, like the candidate, is a lifetime Jersey City resident. "I didn't know he did all that." Whether McCann really does deserve the credit or was simply in the right place at the right time, there is no question that the city's once-abandoned waterfront, in particular, has undergone a spectacular transformation that began during McCann's first term. "Part of what I'm doing in this campaign is communicating with the new residents that I was a good mayor," McCann said in an interview. Of his detractors, he said, "They're not saying I didn't do it. They're just saying, 'Oh, Gerry McCann's making it sound like he created the world.''' McCann's own world came tumbling down 11 years ago, when he was removed from office following a federal bank fraud conviction involving a failed development deal unrelated to his official duties. He worked on the deal, to build a marina, after being voted out of office in 1985 and before being voted back in four years later, and was convicted after his second term began. After serving two years in prison, McCann tried twice to win his old mayor's job back, in 1997 and 2001. But state courts blocked him from running for office in Jersey City, which bars candidates convicted of "crimes of moral turpitude." However, courts have ruled that McCann could run for county or state office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SMAK posted Message 2077 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 31, 2003 at 07:53:13 Subject: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE from Wally Edge's column: Right here in Hoboken October 30, 2003 Just one week after published reports that he was arrested on a domestic violence charge involving his estranged wife, Bergen County Freeholder LOUIS TEDESCO was a no-show tonight at a ceremony to commemorate the 25th Anniversary of Alternatives to Domestic Violence, a program administered by the county Department of Human Services. Five of the seven Freeholders were in attendance, along with Assemblyman MATTHEW AHEARN. Members of the National Organization of Women were protesting outside the county administration building and calling for Tedesco, the Republican Assembly candidate in the 38th district, to resign. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBVERHIPPY posted Message 2078 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 31, 2003 at 07:57:47 Subject: Missing Links? While the development of the Jersey City Waterfront certainly took root during the first term of Mayor McCann (I'll leave it to the factions concerned to argue whether progress was because of, or depite Gerry McCann), seeds were planted much earlier. The Federal demolition of the cathedral of corruption that existed under the rule of J. V. Kenny, can not be overlooked. Though, as we are seemingly constantly reminded, the religion of corruption persists here in Hudson County. The young Mayor Paul T. Jordan energetically attempted to remove the weeds that prevented economic growth in Jersey City. Unfortunately, his efforts were hampered by the continuing and accelerating decay plaguing all cities. A number of the political figures from the Jordan regime remained prominent for the next quarter century. Mayor Thomas Smith -- and his persuasive Chief of Staff, Paul Byrne -- found an abandoned zone on Montgomery Street running from the Turnpike to Hamilton Park. This area of blight seemed ready to spread and turn Downtown Jersey City into New Jersey's version of the South Bronx. Mayor Smith's vision Paul Byrne's hard work turned a problem into a vibrant and attractive neighborhood. It's hard to imagine the LeFrak's developing the Waterfront if they were faced by a Downtown little better then a War Zone. Mayor Smith's legacy was a setting conducive to growth. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2079 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 31, 2003 at 08:00:08 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just Wondring posted Message 2080 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 31, 2003 at 09:09:42 Subject: UTN Website Howcome UTN does not have a website? What's up with that? Martin Jackson is the webmaster of the Jersey City website and he is "in charge" of the paper, so how come the UTN has no website? I would like to read the paper but it is very hard to findd. Why is that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2081 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 31, 2003 at 09:56:23 Subject: Re: UTN Website They have some sort of site but it is password protected. No one can gain access. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UrbanTimes News posted Message 2082 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 31, 2003 at 12:08:49 Subject: CUNNINGHAM GETS REPUBLICAN SENATE CANDIDATE MENDIOLA’S ENDORSEMENT UrbanTimes News UTN NEWS Jersey City—Carmen Mendiola, the Republican candidate for the 31st District Senate Seat also sought by Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham has publicly endorsed Cunningham. “I know Cunningham and what he stands for and I think that he will be a great Senator. We want to unite and not further divide. This about people and not about Party.” Mendiola has been a lifelong registered Republican and worked as assistant corporation counsel during the Schundler administration here. Mendiola said that her decision to throw her support behind Cunningham is in recognition of Cunningham’s long running battle with the Democratic political machine in Hudson County. Mendiola said that she is aware of the crisis and that her decision to support Cunningham is to prevent any more disservice to the people of the district who she says are the victims of machine politics and corruption. “We do not want the people to pay the price for a few bad apples.” Mendiola said that she could easily identify with Cunningham despite party differences because of his well known stand on issues like crime, and quality of life that are universal. As a woman and Hispanic, bilingual at that, Mendiola said that she found it easy to identify with Cunningham as a minority member also. “From what we saw of the negative politicking during the primary race and the HCDO efforts to overturn the the election we feel it is imperative that political affiliations be put aside in order to bring about the best good government for constituents in the 31st district.” Mendiola was born in Cuba and moved to the United States as a child. She ran unopposed for the Republican nomination in June. Mendiola resides and maintains law offices downtown in Jersey City. Deputy Mayor Carl Czyplicki said that what Mendiola is doing is highly commendable, an act of conscience transcending partisan politics. “She is clearly equal to the task with impressive credentials and experience. She is a seasoned attorney with a long back ground in local politics. She is a minority member, an Hispanic woman. But like all of us she recognizes that Glenn Cunningham has won the confidence of so many people in the 31st District. This year the primary election in the 31st District was one of the most interesting in the State. After all the court battles the results after repeated legal tests clearly indicate the will of the people. And that will is that the majority want to be represented by Glenn Cunningham. ” Jose Arango, Republican County Chairman, said of Mendiola, “She is a person that thinks for herself and I have to respect her opinion. As a woman, and a minority member she sees little difference between the position of the Democrats and Republicans on the underlying issues of most concern but instead sees this as a choice against the political machine. That is really what this is about, people against the corrupt machine with its waste and mismanagement.” “Other than that we are family oriented, fiscally and financially conservative. We believe that the elected official must be extremely responsible and accountable to tax payers and homeowners to balance the budget. We need somebody who will be effective in Trenton to bring more funding to Jersey City and Bayonne. “We want good schools for our children, whether public or private. We want to make Hudson County part of this country again, and with the rest of the country work with the two party system, not machine politics. We want to work together to bring the back decency and credibility to the county in the shadow of all these corruption scandals. We want to create balanced government as well as a balanced budget’” ***************** End Of Article ****************** FUDD posted Message 2083 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 31, 2003 at 15:04:22 Subject: AYALA RULES AYALA IS IN CHARGE OF THE WEBSITE. THAT BOY HAS ALL THE ANSWERS ***************** End Of Article ****************** LillyMae posted Message 2084 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 31, 2003 at 23:17:01 Subject: AYALA dribbles Like Jeb Clamput (Paw) on the Beverly Hill-BILLY's used to say... "there's just somthin funda-MENTALLY wrong with that boy. : AYALA IS IN CHARGE OF THE WEBSITE. THAT BOY HAS ALL THE ANSWERS ***************** End Of Article ****************** People for Open Government posted Message 2085 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 01, 2003 at 09:52:17 Subject: 10-31-03 Press Release Press Release October 31, 2003 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: David Musarra (201) 792-3369 John Glasel (201) 533-0435 New Citizens Group Seeks to Open Doors to Local Government Hoboken, NJ— Today it was announced that a new organization, People for Open Government, has been formed by concerned citizens to address key issues that affect the public’s access to government. Its first project will be to improve the flow of information to and from Hoboken’s City Hall. John Glasel, spokesperson for the group, said, “In the United States, government is supposed to be accessible and should exist to serve the people. In Hoboken and in much of Hudson County, many people are not getting the information or the guidance that they need. People for Open Government will actively seek to improve this situation.” The group has developed an “Electronic Access Ordinance” that will soon be presented to Hoboken’s City Council. It will require the city to maintain a comprehensive and up-to-date website and to communicate with citizens via e-mail. “Our citizens are Internet savvy,” said Glasel. “A website that has such things as meeting dates, agendas, minutes of meetings, and information request forms will help our government meet the needs of the community. Interacting with Hoboken’s City Hall often requires residents to take time off from work. It’s much easier for people in towns that put their data on websites and respond to e-mail requests. Hoboken should do no less for its residents.” #### ***************** End Of Article ****************** Big Gipper #42 posted Message 2086 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 02, 2003 at 10:22:26 Subject: Bob J., Robert M., Paul B., and Joe B. all the others It's amazing how upset people get when the truth gets out. Are they mad that Bob J made a deal first, before they had a chance. There hasn't been one proclamation of innoncence other then to say the Feds gave some to long of a leash. Name one big trial Joe Hayden or Jack Arsenault have won. Just one. The same tactic was done during ABSCAM, to no avail. They stole millions from the public, and who knows what real effect they had on development in Hudson County. How many straight honest developers have looked past Hudson County because it wasn't worth it. We will never know. "IF IT QUACKS LIKE A DUCK, WALKS LIKE A DUCK, IT'S A DUCK" Groucho Marx "THE TRUTH IS RARELY PURE, AND HARDLY SIMPLE" Oscar Wilde ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2087 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 02, 2003 at 23:30:59 Subject: Outrageous Martin Jackson, the City's "webmaster", has received a $5,000 increase. This incompetent is now making $63,000 per year. All this money for a no-show job. He obviously can't perform his duties as webmaster, Cunningham and McGee tried to hire a consultant to clean up Martin's mess. $63,000 for the UTN newspaper delivery boy !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO posted Message 2088 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2003 at 02:10:08 Subject: Re: Outrageous Steve Glazer must be JEALOUS! Daddy takin care of Martin not the little butt-boy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NAACP Jersey City Branch posted Message 2089 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2003 at 04:47:17 Subject: NAACP To File Legal Action Against the Hudson County Democratic Organization against the Hudson County Democratic Organization ***************** End Of Article ****************** BIG BOPPER posted Message 2090 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2003 at 07:28:31 Subject: MARTIN&AYALA PERFECT TOGETHER. AYALA IS A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN MARTIN. MARTIN IS WHY THE CITY HAS NOT WEBSITE. AYALA PREVENTS ANYTHING GETTING DOEN ABOUT IT. MARTIN IS WHY UTN HAS NO WEBSITE. INCOMPETETENT LIAR. AAYLA INCOMPETENT LIAR. MATCHED PAIR. THEY SHOULD BOTH GET RAISES. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2091 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2003 at 09:46:41 Subject: Kabili is a joke !!! This man will sell himself to the highest bidder no matter what color they are. First to Schundler, then to Cunningham. People like Kabili Tayari, Viola Richardson, Glenn Cunningham, the Rev. Allen, etc etc .. are the reason Jersey City will soon be like a third world country. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2092 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2003 at 14:39:27 Subject: Tonites show topics Infantes trial, Tuesdays elections only one real race McCann Vs Velazquez. Whats a McCann win mean for the HCDO/JCDO? Melissa Holloway resigns from the County. all this and more tonite 9PM WNSW 1430am radio...Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** who is the lawyer....EL-NERDO WEBSTER posted Message 2093 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2003 at 22:37:05 Subject: Re: NAACP To File Legal Action Against the Hudson County Democratic Organization ROTFLMFAO ***************** End Of Article ****************** 11-02-03 posted Message 2094 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2003 at 06:10:02 Subject: New York Times: For Joseph Doria, A Rare Election. He's Not Running. New York Times, New Jersey Section November 2, 2003 For Joseph Doria, A Rare Election. He's Not Running. By TERRY GOLWAY Caption: Photos: Joseph V. Doria who lost his speakership and then his Assembly seat, walked away with a reputation as a "legislator's legislator." (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 1); Though no longer in the Legislature, Joseph V. Doria remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city that bears few of the scars that have disfigured much of urban New Jersey. (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 8) BAYONNE: JOSEPH V. DORIA JR., the senior member of the state Assembly and keeper of its institutional memory, shifted in his chair when a visitor mentioned the word "tragedy." While certainly overstated, it was the word Mr. Doria's friends and allies chose when describing what happened to him this summer. "I don't know if it was a tragedy," he said. "What is meant to be is meant to be." Push him a little more, however, and Mr. Doria becomes a bit less philosophical. "I believe," he added, "that I got whipsawed." And that, his friends argue, was not meant to be. For the first time in a generation, the name of Joseph V. Doria will not appear on the ballot in Tuesday's state legislative elections. A onetime speaker and leader of the Assembly Democrats during their decade in the minority, Mr. Doria, 57, lost his re-election bid in a Democratic primary in June. Neither ideology nor issues figured much in his demise. He was collateral damage in the bitter and bloody civil war between Mayor Glenn Cunningham of Jersey City and Representative Robert Menendez for a control of that celebrated -- and often notorious -- institution, the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Mr. Doria was part of a three-member slate of regular Democrats that lost to Mr. Cunningham's insurgent team in the party primary. Mr. Doria lost by about 500 votes. First elected to the Assembly in 1979, he will leave office in January, although his career is far from finished. He remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city of 62,000 that bears few of the scars that have disfigured so much of urban New Jersey. It was in Trenton, however, that Joseph Doria became a player in New Jersey politics. While his name never became particularly well-known outside of his district, Mr. Doria needed no introductions when he walked the State House halls. A husky man with a beard and a doctorate from Columbia Teachers College (in educational leadership), Mr. Doria gained a reputation for his affability as well as his command of issues. Donald Scarinci, a Hudson County attorney who was Mr. Doria's counsel in the speaker's office, described his former boss as "the Sam Rayburn of New Jersey," referring to the legendary Texan who served as House speaker for all but four years from 1940 to 1961. "That's the kind of stature he had," Mr. Scarinci added. "He was a legislator's legislator" Few politicians get to lead a caucus as long as Mr. Doria led the Assembly Democrats - a dozen years. Fewer manage to gain the respect and even affection of the opposition. But Mr. Doria did. "Nobody ever asked Joe Doria for an audience and was denied," said one longtime lobbyist, Alan Marcus. "It didn't matter whether you were a contributor, or a friend, or not. Joe wanted to hear all points of view. He was the most policy-oriented legislator I've ever seen." Alan Steinberg, a former Whitman administration official who was an adviser to Mr. Doria's Republican successor as speaker, Garabed Haytaian, agreed. "In the New Jersey Assembly, Joe was a person of unquestioned decency and boundless compassion," Mr. Steinberg said. "For Republicans, he was a political adversary without being a personal enemy." With his impressive resume (a bachelor's degree in history from St. Peter's College and a master's in American studies from Boston College to go along with his doctorate from Columbia) and his passion for history, Mr. Doria gained a reputation as the house intellectual, if you will, of the Hudson County Democratic organization. And while academicians in politics are not always known for the common touch, as Gov. Woodrow Wilson demonstrated during his years in Trenton, Joseph V. Doria the powerful legislator never stopped being Joe Doria from Bayonne, a man with a cluttered desk, a straightforward manner and an aversion for slick self-promotion. Mr. Doria's legislative accomplishments number in the dozens, from his sponsorship of New Jersey's ban on assault weapons to any number of bills related to his main policy interest - education. "In the Assembly, he was the go-to person on education bills, from pre-K to post-secondary," said John B. Wilson, president of the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in New Jersey. Mr. Marcus, the lobbyist, said he dealt with Mr. Doria on health-care legislation in the early 1990's, and the Assembly leader was able to bring politicians, lobbyists and insurance executives together to hammer out a compromise. That quality, political insiders say, marked Mr. Doria as a throwback to an earlier era in Trenton, when access was not so blatantly tied to campaign finance, and when even the inevitable rough-and-tumble of state politics did not seem so, well, rough. "Joe Doria is an example of days gone by when you were expected to be civil and courteous to those with whom you disagreed," said former Gov. James J. Florio. "He is a commendable model of commitment to substance and to civility in public life. The absence of civility precludes the ability of people to come together." Paradoxically, Mr. Florio said, Mr. Doria was brought down last June by "politics that do not lend themselves to compromise and conciliation." Welcome to Hudson County, where knuckles are bare, tempers short and memories long. Mr. Doria's defeat is a direct result of the chaos, divisions and outright hatreds that make Hudson County politics a spectacle like no other in New Jersey. The Democratic organization's patron saint is the late, longtime mayor of Jersey City, Frank Hague, one of the most formidable bosses in American history and author of the deathless phrase, "I am the law." Often, the mayor of Jersey City is the party's most powerful figure. But in 1993, something highly unusual took place there. Bret Shundler, a Republican, was elected mayor of Jersey City. Suddenly, there was no Democratic mayor in the county's largest city to claim first dibs on patronage, contracts and other spoils. Into the void stepped the Hudson County executive, Robert Janiszewski, who took over the organization and imposed order and discipline. Much of the time, however, Mr. Janiszewski was taking bribes, as he has admitted in court. When the escapades of Mr. Janiszewski caught the attention of federal investigators, he was persuaded to tape his conversations while conducting his transactions. Once that came to light, beads of sweat began forming on the brows of political insiders on and off the public payroll. The Democratic organization of Hudson County plunged into disarray. Mr. Menendez, a congressman with enormous influence in Washington, is based in Union City in Hudson County, and he cultivated his own alliances within the organization. But when Mr. Shundler relinquished the mayoralty of Jersey City to mount an unsuccessful campaign for governor in 2001, precedent returned to the city and a Democrat, Glenn Cunningham, was elected to City Hall. Mr. Cunningham sought to re-establish the primacy that other Democratic mayors of Jersey City enjoyed over the county organization, but he found Mr. Menendez in his way. The result was last spring's vicious battle in the 31st legislative district. Mr. Cunningham ran for state Senate (not an uncommon phenomenon in New Jersey politics), and Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo joined him as Assembly candidates. Mr. Doria ran on a slate with L. Harvey Smith as the Senate candidate and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli as the other Assembly candidate. The battle lines were drawn; political insiders watched as Mr. Cunningham tested his political muscle against candidates considered to be aligned with Mr. Menendez and his ally, State Senator Bernard Kenny, the Hudson County Democratic chairman. "It was a case where you had two very strong forces that were inalterably opposed to each other," Mr. Doria said. Mr. Cunningham's strength in Jersey City, which makes up about 60 percent of the district, was too much for Mr. Doria and his running mates to overcome. All three were defeated. More than the loss itself, it was the reason behind Mr. Doria's downfall that infuriated his allies and surprised agnostic onlookers. Rarely are senior legislators sacrificed so casually in a political blood feud. To Mr. Marcus, Mr. Doria was "a victim of what politics in New Jersey has become - we don't care about policy. We only care about politics." The battle continued to simmer even into late October in the form of a lawsuit filed on behalf of Mr. Doria and his running mates. The suit, widely expected to fail, charged the Cunningham slate with several electoral irregularities, which is why Mr. Menendez remained unwilling to concede that Mr. Doria's legislative career was over. But if it came to that, he said, "New Jersey will be worse off." The congressman made it plain that Mr. Doria's unexpected loss has done nothing to ease the bitterness in Hudson County. "It is not unusual to have tough primaries," Mr. Menendez said. "But none of them have ever been of the nature that this one took." As Mr. Menendez put it, the "lack of any rules of engagement by one side" was unprecedented, "even in my 30 years of public life in Hudson County." Reiterating charges that the Cunningham team violated state campaign finance regulations, the congressman said: "You ultimately say to yourself, 'Is the right person on the ballot?' One side played according to the rules of the game and the other did not." Mayor Cunningham, who figures to win his Senate race on Tuesday, had some kind words for Mr. Doria, though none for Mr. Menendez. "Joe served the people of Bayonne and Jersey City honorably," Mr. Cunningham said. "I'm just disappointed that he hasn't accepted the will of the people" -- a reference to the lingering litigation over last spring's primary. Of Mr. Menendez, with whom he once had a warmer relationship, the mayor said: "He needs to concentrate on being a congressman and stop being the new Frank Hague. The congressman is Goliath in Hudson County. I'm David. And Goliath doesn't think David should have a slingshot." Mr. Doria's defeat came less than two years after he lost a chance to resume his place as speaker after the Democrats recaptured the Assembly in 2001. But Governor McGreevey, whom Mr. Doria had opposed during his primary campaign in 1996, instead chose Alberto Sires of Union County, an obscure one-term legislator, as the compromise candidate to be the new speaker. This headed off what could have been an acrimonious revolt against Mr. Doria's leadership from Assemblyman Joseph Roberts of Camden County. Mr. Roberts, an ally of the pre-emininent Democratic power broker of South Jersey, George Norcross III, had been feuding with Mr. Doria over the number of appointments handed out to South Jersey Democrats. This was precisely the kind of headache the new governor did not want, so Mr. Sires emerged as the alternative to outright war. After leading the Democrats through the wilderness of minority party status for a decade, a "disappointed" Mr. Doria went along with the young governor's wishes. "You can't always get what you want," he said. "Didn't somebody write a song about that?" Friends say Mr. Doria's conspicuous lack of bitterness, at least in public, is just another part of what made him stand out as a leader and a legislator. The Rev. James Loughran, president of St. Peter's College in Jersey City, where Mr. Doria worked as an administrator during most of his time in the Assembly, described him as "uncomplaining." "He took the Sires appointment in stride," Father Loughran said, "and he is taking this latest event in stride." Perhaps that is because he still has a job, unlike many politicians who lose re-election bids. Being mayor of Bayonne is a good deal more than a consolation prize for Mr. Doria, who can continue to preside over the city of his birth, and a city in which he and his wife, Maribeth, are raising their daughter, Margaret Mary. With its low-density housing stock, most of it one- and two-family homes, and its thriving commercial strip on Broadway, Bayonne is "the kind of place that reminds people of what Hudson County used to be," said Mr. Scarinci. "It's a place out of time." That image is hard to shake as you walk its tidy streets, patrolled by an endless battalion of crossing guards. Every other block, it seems, has a house of worship of one denomination or another. The Catholic churches, like those of the 1950's, often are associated with a particular ethnic group - Our Lady of Mount Carmel, which has a Polish congregation, is adjacent to St. Michael the Archangel, whose worshipers are Lithuanian. The city's main shopping district is long on mom-and-pop operations, including at least two old-fashioned hardware stores that defy the onslaught of big box stores elsewhere. Still, while it seems well-suited to a mayor described as a throwback to another era, Bayonne has changed a great deal in recent decades. Gone are the thousands of blue-collar jobs that Standard Oil and Texaco once provided along the city's waterfront. Those jobs have not been replaced, but thanks to a light-rail line that offers easy access to Jersey City and the PATH, Bayonne is now attracting commuters who work in financial services and other white-collar jobs. That trend is expected to grow as the city develops the former Military Ocean Terminal, a 430-acre waterfront site on which thousands of new homes will be built in coming years. With just a little less than three years left on his current term as mayor, Mr. Doria will have lots of ribbons to cut as the terminal development moves forward. But he declined to characterize the project as his legacy to his home town. "I don't believe in legacy projects," he said. "I hope everything I do leaves a legacy, from the biggest to the smallest." ***************** End Of Article ****************** G'darn Shame posted Message 2095 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2003 at 22:13:54 Subject: Re: New York Times: For Joseph Doria, A Rare Election. He's Not Running. Like him or not, Joe Doria served his community well. We'll just have to see if his successor will be captive of JC's strong-arming, ego-inflated crew or not. Time will tell. : New York Times, New Jersey Section : November 2, 2003 : For Joseph Doria, A Rare Election. He's Not Running. : By TERRY GOLWAY : Caption: Photos: Joseph V. Doria who lost his speakership and then his Assembly seat, walked away with a reputation as a "legislator's legislator." (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 1); Though no longer in the Legislature, Joseph V. Doria remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city that bears few of the scars that have disfigured much of urban New Jersey. (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 8) : BAYONNE: JOSEPH V. DORIA JR., the senior member of the state Assembly and keeper of its institutional memory, shifted in his chair when a visitor mentioned the word "tragedy." While certainly overstated, it was the word Mr. Doria's friends and allies chose when describing what happened to him this summer. : "I don't know if it was a tragedy," he said. "What is meant to be is meant to be." : Push him a little more, however, and Mr. Doria becomes a bit less philosophical. "I believe," he added, "that I got whipsawed." : And that, his friends argue, was not meant to be. : For the first time in a generation, the name of Joseph V. Doria will not appear on the ballot in Tuesday's state legislative elections. A onetime speaker and leader of the Assembly Democrats during their decade in the minority, Mr. Doria, 57, lost his re-election bid in a Democratic primary in June. : Neither ideology nor issues figured much in his demise. He was collateral damage in the bitter and bloody civil war between Mayor Glenn Cunningham of Jersey City and Representative Robert Menendez for a control of that celebrated -- and often notorious -- institution, the Hudson County Democratic Organization. : Mr. Doria was part of a three-member slate of regular Democrats that lost to Mr. Cunningham's insurgent team in the party primary. Mr. Doria lost by about 500 votes. First elected to the Assembly in 1979, he will leave office in January, although his career is far from finished. He remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city of 62,000 that bears few of the scars that have disfigured so much of urban New Jersey. : It was in Trenton, however, that Joseph Doria became a player in New Jersey politics. While his name never became particularly well-known outside of his district, Mr. Doria needed no introductions when he walked the State House halls. A husky man with a beard and a doctorate from Columbia Teachers College (in educational leadership), Mr. Doria gained a reputation for his affability as well as his command of issues. Donald Scarinci, a Hudson County attorney who was Mr. Doria's counsel in the speaker's office, described his former boss as "the Sam Rayburn of New Jersey," referring to the legendary Texan who served as House speaker for all but four years from 1940 to 1961. "That's the kind of stature he had," Mr. Scarinci added. "He was a legislator's legislator" : Few politicians get to lead a caucus as long as Mr. Doria led the Assembly Democrats - a dozen years. Fewer manage to gain the respect and even affection of the opposition. But Mr. Doria did. "Nobody ever asked Joe Doria for an audience and was denied," said one longtime lobbyist, Alan Marcus. "It didn't matter whether you were a contributor, or a friend, or not. Joe wanted to hear all points of view. He was the most policy-oriented legislator I've ever seen." : Alan Steinberg, a former Whitman administration official who was an adviser to Mr. Doria's Republican successor as speaker, Garabed Haytaian, agreed. "In the New Jersey Assembly, Joe was a person of unquestioned decency and boundless compassion," Mr. Steinberg said. "For Republicans, he was a political adversary without being a personal enemy." : With his impressive resume (a bachelor's degree in history from St. Peter's College and a master's in American studies from Boston College to go along with his doctorate from Columbia) and his passion for history, Mr. Doria gained a reputation as the house intellectual, if you will, of the Hudson County Democratic organization. And while academicians in politics are not always known for the common touch, as Gov. Woodrow Wilson demonstrated during his years in Trenton, Joseph V. Doria the powerful legislator never stopped being Joe Doria from Bayonne, a man with a cluttered desk, a straightforward manner and an aversion for slick self-promotion. : Mr. Doria's legislative accomplishments number in the dozens, from his sponsorship of New Jersey's ban on assault weapons to any number of bills related to his main policy interest - education. : "In the Assembly, he was the go-to person on education bills, from pre-K to post-secondary," said John B. Wilson, president of the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in New Jersey. : Mr. Marcus, the lobbyist, said he dealt with Mr. Doria on health-care legislation in the early 1990's, and the Assembly leader was able to bring politicians, lobbyists and insurance executives together to hammer out a compromise. : That quality, political insiders say, marked Mr. Doria as a throwback to an earlier era in Trenton, when access was not so blatantly tied to campaign finance, and when even the inevitable rough-and-tumble of state politics did not seem so, well, rough. "Joe Doria is an example of days gone by when you were expected to be civil and courteous to those with whom you disagreed," said former Gov. James J. Florio. "He is a commendable model of commitment to substance and to civility in public life. The absence of civility precludes the ability of people to come together." : Paradoxically, Mr. Florio said, Mr. Doria was brought down last June by "politics that do not lend themselves to compromise and conciliation." : Welcome to Hudson County, where knuckles are bare, tempers short and memories long. : Mr. Doria's defeat is a direct result of the chaos, divisions and outright hatreds that make Hudson County politics a spectacle like no other in New Jersey. The Democratic organization's patron saint is the late, longtime mayor of Jersey City, Frank Hague, one of the most formidable bosses in American history and author of the deathless phrase, "I am the law." : Often, the mayor of Jersey City is the party's most powerful figure. But in 1993, something highly unusual took place there. Bret Shundler, a Republican, was elected mayor of Jersey City. Suddenly, there was no Democratic mayor in the county's largest city to claim first dibs on patronage, contracts and other spoils. Into the void stepped the Hudson County executive, Robert Janiszewski, who took over the organization and imposed order and discipline. Much of the time, however, Mr. Janiszewski was taking bribes, as he has admitted in court. When the escapades of Mr. Janiszewski caught the attention of federal investigators, he was persuaded to tape his conversations while conducting his transactions. Once that came to light, beads of sweat began forming on the brows of political insiders on and off the public payroll. The Democratic organization of Hudson County plunged into disarray. : Mr. Menendez, a congressman with enormous influence in Washington, is based in Union City in Hudson County, and he cultivated his own alliances within the organization. But when Mr. Shundler relinquished the mayoralty of Jersey City to mount an unsuccessful campaign for governor in 2001, precedent returned to the city and a Democrat, Glenn Cunningham, was elected to City Hall. Mr. Cunningham sought to re-establish the primacy that other Democratic mayors of Jersey City enjoyed over the county organization, but he found Mr. Menendez in his way. : The result was last spring's vicious battle in the 31st legislative district. Mr. Cunningham ran for state Senate (not an uncommon phenomenon in New Jersey politics), and Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo joined him as Assembly candidates. Mr. Doria ran on a slate with L. Harvey Smith as the Senate candidate and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli as the other Assembly candidate. The battle lines were drawn; political insiders watched as Mr. Cunningham tested his political muscle against candidates considered to be aligned with Mr. Menendez and his ally, State Senator Bernard Kenny, the Hudson County Democratic chairman. : "It was a case where you had two very strong forces that were inalterably opposed to each other," Mr. Doria said. Mr. Cunningham's strength in Jersey City, which makes up about 60 percent of the district, was too much for Mr. Doria and his running mates to overcome. All three were defeated. : More than the loss itself, it was the reason behind Mr. Doria's downfall that infuriated his allies and surprised agnostic onlookers. Rarely are senior legislators sacrificed so casually in a political blood feud. To Mr. Marcus, Mr. Doria was "a victim of what politics in New Jersey has become - we don't care about policy. We only care about politics." : The battle continued to simmer even into late October in the form of a lawsuit filed on behalf of Mr. Doria and his running mates. The suit, widely expected to fail, charged the Cunningham slate with several electoral irregularities, which is why Mr. Menendez remained unwilling to concede that Mr. Doria's legislative career was over. But if it came to that, he said, "New Jersey will be worse off." : The congressman made it plain that Mr. Doria's unexpected loss has done nothing to ease the bitterness in Hudson County. "It is not unusual to have tough primaries," Mr. Menendez said. "But none of them have ever been of the nature that this one took." : As Mr. Menendez put it, the "lack of any rules of engagement by one side" was unprecedented, "even in my 30 years of public life in Hudson County." : Reiterating charges that the Cunningham team violated state campaign finance regulations, the congressman said: "You ultimately say to yourself, 'Is the right person on the ballot?' One side played according to the rules of the game and the other did not." : Mayor Cunningham, who figures to win his Senate race on Tuesday, had some kind words for Mr. Doria, though none for Mr. Menendez. : "Joe served the people of Bayonne and Jersey City honorably," Mr. Cunningham said. "I'm just disappointed that he hasn't accepted the will of the people" -- a reference to the lingering litigation over last spring's primary. Of Mr. Menendez, with whom he once had a warmer relationship, the mayor said: "He needs to concentrate on being a congressman and stop being the new Frank Hague. The congressman is Goliath in Hudson County. I'm David. And Goliath doesn't think David should have a slingshot." : Mr. Doria's defeat came less than two years after he lost a chance to resume his place as speaker after the Democrats recaptured the Assembly in 2001. But Governor McGreevey, whom Mr. Doria had opposed during his primary campaign in 1996, instead chose Alberto Sires of Union County, an obscure one-term legislator, as the compromise candidate to be the new speaker. This headed off what could have been an acrimonious revolt against Mr. Doria's leadership from Assemblyman Joseph Roberts of Camden County. : Mr. Roberts, an ally of the pre-emininent Democratic power broker of South Jersey, George Norcross III, had been feuding with Mr. Doria over the number of appointments handed out to South Jersey Democrats. This was precisely the kind of headache the new governor did not want, so Mr. Sires emerged as the alternative to outright war. : After leading the Democrats through the wilderness of minority party status for a decade, a "disappointed" Mr. Doria went along with the young governor's wishes. "You can't always get what you want," he said. "Didn't somebody write a song about that?" : Friends say Mr. Doria's conspicuous lack of bitterness, at least in public, is just another part of what made him stand out as a leader and a legislator. The Rev. James Loughran, president of St. Peter's College in Jersey City, where Mr. Doria worked as an administrator during most of his time in the Assembly, described him as "uncomplaining." : "He took the Sires appointment in stride," Father Loughran said, "and he is taking this latest event in stride." : Perhaps that is because he still has a job, unlike many politicians who lose re-election bids. Being mayor of Bayonne is a good deal more than a consolation prize for Mr. Doria, who can continue to preside over the city of his birth, and a city in which he and his wife, Maribeth, are raising their daughter, Margaret Mary. With its low-density housing stock, most of it one- and two-family homes, and its thriving commercial strip on Broadway, Bayonne is "the kind of place that reminds people of what Hudson County used to be," said Mr. Scarinci. "It's a place out of time." : That image is hard to shake as you walk its tidy streets, patrolled by an endless battalion of crossing guards. Every other block, it seems, has a house of worship of one denomination or another. The Catholic churches, like those of the 1950's, often are associated with a particular ethnic group - Our Lady of Mount Carmel, which has a Polish congregation, is adjacent to St. Michael the Archangel, whose worshipers are Lithuanian. The city's main shopping district is long on mom-and-pop operations, including at least two old-fashioned hardware stores that defy the onslaught of big box stores elsewhere. : Still, while it seems well-suited to a mayor described as a throwback to another era, Bayonne has changed a great deal in recent decades. Gone are the thousands of blue-collar jobs that Standard Oil and Texaco once provided along the city's waterfront. Those jobs have not been replaced, but thanks to a light-rail line that offers easy access to Jersey City and the PATH, Bayonne is now attracting commuters who work in financial services and other white-collar jobs. That trend is expected to grow as the city develops the former Military Ocean Terminal, a 430-acre waterfront site on which thousands of new homes will be built in coming years. : With just a little less than three years left on his current term as mayor, Mr. Doria will have lots of ribbons to cut as the terminal development moves forward. But he declined to characterize the project as his legacy to his home town. : "I don't believe in legacy projects," he said. "I hope everything I do leaves a legacy, from the biggest to the smallest." ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 2096 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2003 at 06:56:50 Subject: What a Crook of Doo-Doo :::Politics aside, who says Joe "I look like a cardboard cut-out in pictures" Doria has done well by Bayonne? Empty stores & empty lots on Broadway. Whatever happened to the proposed theater? Bayonne has become old Hobokenish in a way but instead of a bar on every corner it's a $0.99 store or Chinese Take-Out. Lost a battleship...to Camden? So when are we finding funds to finish paving Broadway? Uh, like what are we gonna do with the old MOTBY? Seems to me that the police need to take remedial driving courses & pee in the cup a little more often than they do now. Oh, & checking to see what their part time jobs are would not necessarily be a bad thing. And if things were so honky-dory, Bayonne wouldn't have qualified for the 3% sales tax. Can we spell "distressed"? Maybe, if the back door to Joe's office was nailed shut he would have to stick around & actually listen to the problems people are having. : Like him or not, Joe Doria served his community well. We'll just have to see if his successor will be captive of JC's strong-arming, ego-inflated crew or not. Time will tell. : : : New York Times, New Jersey Section : : November 2, 2003 : : For Joseph Doria, A Rare Election. He's Not Running. : : By TERRY GOLWAY : : Caption: Photos: Joseph V. Doria who lost his speakership and then his Assembly seat, walked away with a reputation as a "legislator's legislator." (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 1); Though no longer in the Legislature, Joseph V. Doria remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city that bears few of the scars that have disfigured much of urban New Jersey. (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 8) : : BAYONNE: JOSEPH V. DORIA JR., the senior member of the state Assembly and keeper of its institutional memory, shifted in his chair when a visitor mentioned the word "tragedy." While certainly overstated, it was the word Mr. Doria's friends and allies chose when describing what happened to him this summer. : : "I don't know if it was a tragedy," he said. "What is meant to be is meant to be." : : Push him a little more, however, and Mr. Doria becomes a bit less philosophical. "I believe," he added, "that I got whipsawed." : : And that, his friends argue, was not meant to be. : : For the first time in a generation, the name of Joseph V. Doria will not appear on the ballot in Tuesday's state legislative elections. A onetime speaker and leader of the Assembly Democrats during their decade in the minority, Mr. Doria, 57, lost his re-election bid in a Democratic primary in June. : : Neither ideology nor issues figured much in his demise. He was collateral damage in the bitter and bloody civil war between Mayor Glenn Cunningham of Jersey City and Representative Robert Menendez for a control of that celebrated -- and often notorious -- institution, the Hudson County Democratic Organization. : : Mr. Doria was part of a three-member slate of regular Democrats that lost to Mr. Cunningham's insurgent team in the party primary. Mr. Doria lost by about 500 votes. First elected to the Assembly in 1979, he will leave office in January, although his career is far from finished. He remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city of 62,000 that bears few of the scars that have disfigured so much of urban New Jersey. : : It was in Trenton, however, that Joseph Doria became a player in New Jersey politics. While his name never became particularly well-known outside of his district, Mr. Doria needed no introductions when he walked the State House halls. A husky man with a beard and a doctorate from Columbia Teachers College (in educational leadership), Mr. Doria gained a reputation for his affability as well as his command of issues. Donald Scarinci, a Hudson County attorney who was Mr. Doria's counsel in the speaker's office, described his former boss as "the Sam Rayburn of New Jersey," referring to the legendary Texan who served as House speaker for all but four years from 1940 to 1961. "That's the kind of stature he had," Mr. Scarinci added. "He was a legislator's legislator" : : Few politicians get to lead a caucus as long as Mr. Doria led the Assembly Democrats - a dozen years. Fewer manage to gain the respect and even affection of the opposition. But Mr. Doria did. "Nobody ever asked Joe Doria for an audience and was denied," said one longtime lobbyist, Alan Marcus. "It didn't matter whether you were a contributor, or a friend, or not. Joe wanted to hear all points of view. He was the most policy-oriented legislator I've ever seen." : : Alan Steinberg, a former Whitman administration official who was an adviser to Mr. Doria's Republican successor as speaker, Garabed Haytaian, agreed. "In the New Jersey Assembly, Joe was a person of unquestioned decency and boundless compassion," Mr. Steinberg said. "For Republicans, he was a political adversary without being a personal enemy." : : With his impressive resume (a bachelor's degree in history from St. Peter's College and a master's in American studies from Boston College to go along with his doctorate from Columbia) and his passion for history, Mr. Doria gained a reputation as the house intellectual, if you will, of the Hudson County Democratic organization. And while academicians in politics are not always known for the common touch, as Gov. Woodrow Wilson demonstrated during his years in Trenton, Joseph V. Doria the powerful legislator never stopped being Joe Doria from Bayonne, a man with a cluttered desk, a straightforward manner and an aversion for slick self-promotion. : : Mr. Doria's legislative accomplishments number in the dozens, from his sponsorship of New Jersey's ban on assault weapons to any number of bills related to his main policy interest - education. : : "In the Assembly, he was the go-to person on education bills, from pre-K to post-secondary," said John B. Wilson, president of the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in New Jersey. : : Mr. Marcus, the lobbyist, said he dealt with Mr. Doria on health-care legislation in the early 1990's, and the Assembly leader was able to bring politicians, lobbyists and insurance executives together to hammer out a compromise. : : That quality, political insiders say, marked Mr. Doria as a throwback to an earlier era in Trenton, when access was not so blatantly tied to campaign finance, and when even the inevitable rough-and-tumble of state politics did not seem so, well, rough. "Joe Doria is an example of days gone by when you were expected to be civil and courteous to those with whom you disagreed," said former Gov. James J. Florio. "He is a commendable model of commitment to substance and to civility in public life. The absence of civility precludes the ability of people to come together." : : Paradoxically, Mr. Florio said, Mr. Doria was brought down last June by "politics that do not lend themselves to compromise and conciliation." : : Welcome to Hudson County, where knuckles are bare, tempers short and memories long. : : Mr. Doria's defeat is a direct result of the chaos, divisions and outright hatreds that make Hudson County politics a spectacle like no other in New Jersey. The Democratic organization's patron saint is the late, longtime mayor of Jersey City, Frank Hague, one of the most formidable bosses in American history and author of the deathless phrase, "I am the law." : : Often, the mayor of Jersey City is the party's most powerful figure. But in 1993, something highly unusual took place there. Bret Shundler, a Republican, was elected mayor of Jersey City. Suddenly, there was no Democratic mayor in the county's largest city to claim first dibs on patronage, contracts and other spoils. Into the void stepped the Hudson County executive, Robert Janiszewski, who took over the organization and imposed order and discipline. Much of the time, however, Mr. Janiszewski was taking bribes, as he has admitted in court. When the escapades of Mr. Janiszewski caught the attention of federal investigators, he was persuaded to tape his conversations while conducting his transactions. Once that came to light, beads of sweat began forming on the brows of political insiders on and off the public payroll. The Democratic organization of Hudson County plunged into disarray. : : Mr. Menendez, a congressman with enormous influence in Washington, is based in Union City in Hudson County, and he cultivated his own alliances within the organization. But when Mr. Shundler relinquished the mayoralty of Jersey City to mount an unsuccessful campaign for governor in 2001, precedent returned to the city and a Democrat, Glenn Cunningham, was elected to City Hall. Mr. Cunningham sought to re-establish the primacy that other Democratic mayors of Jersey City enjoyed over the county organization, but he found Mr. Menendez in his way. : : The result was last spring's vicious battle in the 31st legislative district. Mr. Cunningham ran for state Senate (not an uncommon phenomenon in New Jersey politics), and Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo joined him as Assembly candidates. Mr. Doria ran on a slate with L. Harvey Smith as the Senate candidate and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli as the other Assembly candidate. The battle lines were drawn; political insiders watched as Mr. Cunningham tested his political muscle against candidates considered to be aligned with Mr. Menendez and his ally, State Senator Bernard Kenny, the Hudson County Democratic chairman. : : "It was a case where you had two very strong forces that were inalterably opposed to each other," Mr. Doria said. Mr. Cunningham's strength in Jersey City, which makes up about 60 percent of the district, was too much for Mr. Doria and his running mates to overcome. All three were defeated. : : More than the loss itself, it was the reason behind Mr. Doria's downfall that infuriated his allies and surprised agnostic onlookers. Rarely are senior legislators sacrificed so casually in a political blood feud. To Mr. Marcus, Mr. Doria was "a victim of what politics in New Jersey has become - we don't care about policy. We only care about politics." : : The battle continued to simmer even into late October in the form of a lawsuit filed on behalf of Mr. Doria and his running mates. The suit, widely expected to fail, charged the Cunningham slate with several electoral irregularities, which is why Mr. Menendez remained unwilling to concede that Mr. Doria's legislative career was over. But if it came to that, he said, "New Jersey will be worse off." : : The congressman made it plain that Mr. Doria's unexpected loss has done nothing to ease the bitterness in Hudson County. "It is not unusual to have tough primaries," Mr. Menendez said. "But none of them have ever been of the nature that this one took." : : As Mr. Menendez put it, the "lack of any rules of engagement by one side" was unprecedented, "even in my 30 years of public life in Hudson County." : : Reiterating charges that the Cunningham team violated state campaign finance regulations, the congressman said: "You ultimately say to yourself, 'Is the right person on the ballot?' One side played according to the rules of the game and the other did not." : : Mayor Cunningham, who figures to win his Senate race on Tuesday, had some kind words for Mr. Doria, though none for Mr. Menendez. : : "Joe served the people of Bayonne and Jersey City honorably," Mr. Cunningham said. "I'm just disappointed that he hasn't accepted the will of the people" -- a reference to the lingering litigation over last spring's primary. Of Mr. Menendez, with whom he once had a warmer relationship, the mayor said: "He needs to concentrate on being a congressman and stop being the new Frank Hague. The congressman is Goliath in Hudson County. I'm David. And Goliath doesn't think David should have a slingshot." : : Mr. Doria's defeat came less than two years after he lost a chance to resume his place as speaker after the Democrats recaptured the Assembly in 2001. But Governor McGreevey, whom Mr. Doria had opposed during his primary campaign in 1996, instead chose Alberto Sires of Union County, an obscure one-term legislator, as the compromise candidate to be the new speaker. This headed off what could have been an acrimonious revolt against Mr. Doria's leadership from Assemblyman Joseph Roberts of Camden County. : : Mr. Roberts, an ally of the pre-emininent Democratic power broker of South Jersey, George Norcross III, had been feuding with Mr. Doria over the number of appointments handed out to South Jersey Democrats. This was precisely the kind of headache the new governor did not want, so Mr. Sires emerged as the alternative to outright war. : : After leading the Democrats through the wilderness of minority party status for a decade, a "disappointed" Mr. Doria went along with the young governor's wishes. "You can't always get what you want," he said. "Didn't somebody write a song about that?" : : Friends say Mr. Doria's conspicuous lack of bitterness, at least in public, is just another part of what made him stand out as a leader and a legislator. The Rev. James Loughran, president of St. Peter's College in Jersey City, where Mr. Doria worked as an administrator during most of his time in the Assembly, described him as "uncomplaining." : : "He took the Sires appointment in stride," Father Loughran said, "and he is taking this latest event in stride." : : Perhaps that is because he still has a job, unlike many politicians who lose re-election bids. Being mayor of Bayonne is a good deal more than a consolation prize for Mr. Doria, who can continue to preside over the city of his birth, and a city in which he and his wife, Maribeth, are raising their daughter, Margaret Mary. With its low-density housing stock, most of it one- and two-family homes, and its thriving commercial strip on Broadway, Bayonne is "the kind of place that reminds people of what Hudson County used to be," said Mr. Scarinci. "It's a place out of time." : : That image is hard to shake as you walk its tidy streets, patrolled by an endless battalion of crossing guards. Every other block, it seems, has a house of worship of one denomination or another. The Catholic churches, like those of the 1950's, often are associated with a particular ethnic group - Our Lady of Mount Carmel, which has a Polish congregation, is adjacent to St. Michael the Archangel, whose worshipers are Lithuanian. The city's main shopping district is long on mom-and-pop operations, including at least two old-fashioned hardware stores that defy the onslaught of big box stores elsewhere. : : Still, while it seems well-suited to a mayor described as a throwback to another era, Bayonne has changed a great deal in recent decades. Gone are the thousands of blue-collar jobs that Standard Oil and Texaco once provided along the city's waterfront. Those jobs have not been replaced, but thanks to a light-rail line that offers easy access to Jersey City and the PATH, Bayonne is now attracting commuters who work in financial services and other white-collar jobs. That trend is expected to grow as the city develops the former Military Ocean Terminal, a 430-acre waterfront site on which thousands of new homes will be built in coming years. : : With just a little less than three years left on his current term as mayor, Mr. Doria will have lots of ribbons to cut as the terminal development moves forward. But he declined to characterize the project as his legacy to his home town. : : "I don't believe in legacy projects," he said. "I hope everything I do leaves a legacy, from the biggest to the smallest." ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2097 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2003 at 10:01:38 Subject: An Albatross’ll Beat an Anchor Any Day An Albatross’ll Beat an Anchor Any Day In the race to election day shore, it was supposed to be that the Dems’d get slowed down by the McGreevey albatross. Turns out, to whatever extent that was true, in the end it didn’t matter, for the Republicans wound up stuck in the mud by the Bennett anchor. This might even turn out to be a worst first of the ship going down with the captain. And that’s just an in particular. Considering the in general, rather little vim and vigor went into the job of making a case against the Gov. Plus, in their campaign dinghy, the NJ Republicans had only that one oar. No State-wide message of Republican ideals ever made it to deck. So the Republican effort was doomed at the dock to meander about in circles. And even that was only managed marginally. The many McGreevey flagrant failures needed to be descried by one and all as a flapping Jolly Roger on the horizon. Simply, the Republicans failed to show that. But, even if the maneuver was a success, the spyglass still had to show the Democrat legislators as the crew of the Pirate’s ship. Basically, that wasn’t even attempted. People have criticized Hudson County Republican Chairman Jose Arango. I'd say that he has a lot to be proud of this morning. With no resources (and after endorsing her Democratic opponent), Carmen Mendiola still managed over 16% of the vote. Rafael Fraguela did a good job in creating a presence, winning almost 20%. (I think that Fraguela could have done even better. But, he was too much of a gentleman to get into a wrestling match in the gutter with Bernard Kenny.) Out-manned and out-gunned, the Hudson County Republicans were defeated. That's nothing to be ashamed of. The Republican organizations in the many districts that had a real chance of winning, but threw it away, those Chairs deserve disgrace. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2098 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2003 at 11:42:22 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show: November 3, 2003 To listen to the Online Recording, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Smitty posted Message 2099 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2003 at 12:01:05 Subject: Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo : :::Politics aside, who says Joe "I look like a cardboard cut-out in pictures" Doria has done well by Bayonne? : Empty stores & empty lots on Broadway. Whatever happened to the proposed theater? Bayonne has become old Hobokenish in a way but instead of a bar on every corner it's a $0.99 store or Chinese Take-Out. : Lost a battleship...to Camden? : So when are we finding funds to finish paving Broadway? : Uh, like what are we gonna do with the old MOTBY? : Seems to me that the police need to take remedial driving courses & pee in the cup a little more often than they do now. Oh, & checking to see what their part time jobs are would not necessarily be a bad thing. : And if things were so honky-dory, Bayonne wouldn't have qualified for the 3% sales tax. Can we spell "distressed"? : Maybe, if the back door to Joe's office was nailed shut he would have to stick around & actually listen to the problems people are having. : What a bunch of sour grapes. I have a feeling this poster, BJ, isn't a Bayonneite just a Cunningham lackie from JC. Everybody around the State is wrong but you know what is best for us. Check and you will see the people of Bayonne overwhelmingly support the Mayor in every election he has been in. It was the racist Mayor of JC who deprived us of our rightful representative in Trenton. And FYI, Broadway is being repaved now, its no longer MOTBY its the Peninsula and we got it 400 acres of waterfront property to develop for free thanks to Mayor Doria and Bob Menendez, the UEZ zone has been a great success and btw how are Central, Bergen, Monticello and Newark Avenues doing under your nitwit Mayor. Can you say, see ya in 2005? : : : Like him or not, Joe Doria served his community well. We'll just have to see if his successor will be captive of JC's strong-arming, ego-inflated crew or not. Time will tell. : : : : : New York Times, New Jersey Section : : : November 2, 2003 : : : For Joseph Doria, A Rare Election. He's Not Running. : : : By TERRY GOLWAY : : : Caption: Photos: Joseph V. Doria who lost his speakership and then his Assembly seat, walked away with a reputation as a "legislator's legislator." (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 1); Though no longer in the Legislature, Joseph V. Doria remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city that bears few of the scars that have disfigured much of urban New Jersey. (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 8) : : : BAYONNE: JOSEPH V. DORIA JR., the senior member of the state Assembly and keeper of its institutional memory, shifted in his chair when a visitor mentioned the word "tragedy." While certainly overstated, it was the word Mr. Doria's friends and allies chose when describing what happened to him this summer. : : : "I don't know if it was a tragedy," he said. "What is meant to be is meant to be." : : : Push him a little more, however, and Mr. Doria becomes a bit less philosophical. "I believe," he added, "that I got whipsawed." : : : And that, his friends argue, was not meant to be. : : : For the first time in a generation, the name of Joseph V. Doria will not appear on the ballot in Tuesday's state legislative elections. A onetime speaker and leader of the Assembly Democrats during their decade in the minority, Mr. Doria, 57, lost his re-election bid in a Democratic primary in June. : : : Neither ideology nor issues figured much in his demise. He was collateral damage in the bitter and bloody civil war between Mayor Glenn Cunningham of Jersey City and Representative Robert Menendez for a control of that celebrated -- and often notorious -- institution, the Hudson County Democratic Organization. : : : Mr. Doria was part of a three-member slate of regular Democrats that lost to Mr. Cunningham's insurgent team in the party primary. Mr. Doria lost by about 500 votes. First elected to the Assembly in 1979, he will leave office in January, although his career is far from finished. He remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city of 62,000 that bears few of the scars that have disfigured so much of urban New Jersey. : : : It was in Trenton, however, that Joseph Doria became a player in New Jersey politics. While his name never became particularly well-known outside of his district, Mr. Doria needed no introductions when he walked the State House halls. A husky man with a beard and a doctorate from Columbia Teachers College (in educational leadership), Mr. Doria gained a reputation for his affability as well as his command of issues. Donald Scarinci, a Hudson County attorney who was Mr. Doria's counsel in the speaker's office, described his former boss as "the Sam Rayburn of New Jersey," referring to the legendary Texan who served as House speaker for all but four years from 1940 to 1961. "That's the kind of stature he had," Mr. Scarinci added. "He was a legislator's legislator" : : : Few politicians get to lead a caucus as long as Mr. Doria led the Assembly Democrats - a dozen years. Fewer manage to gain the respect and even affection of the opposition. But Mr. Doria did. "Nobody ever asked Joe Doria for an audience and was denied," said one longtime lobbyist, Alan Marcus. "It didn't matter whether you were a contributor, or a friend, or not. Joe wanted to hear all points of view. He was the most policy-oriented legislator I've ever seen." : : : Alan Steinberg, a former Whitman administration official who was an adviser to Mr. Doria's Republican successor as speaker, Garabed Haytaian, agreed. "In the New Jersey Assembly, Joe was a person of unquestioned decency and boundless compassion," Mr. Steinberg said. "For Republicans, he was a political adversary without being a personal enemy." : : : With his impressive resume (a bachelor's degree in history from St. Peter's College and a master's in American studies from Boston College to go along with his doctorate from Columbia) and his passion for history, Mr. Doria gained a reputation as the house intellectual, if you will, of the Hudson County Democratic organization. And while academicians in politics are not always known for the common touch, as Gov. Woodrow Wilson demonstrated during his years in Trenton, Joseph V. Doria the powerful legislator never stopped being Joe Doria from Bayonne, a man with a cluttered desk, a straightforward manner and an aversion for slick self-promotion. : : : Mr. Doria's legislative accomplishments number in the dozens, from his sponsorship of New Jersey's ban on assault weapons to any number of bills related to his main policy interest - education. : : : "In the Assembly, he was the go-to person on education bills, from pre-K to post-secondary," said John B. Wilson, president of the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in New Jersey. : : : Mr. Marcus, the lobbyist, said he dealt with Mr. Doria on health-care legislation in the early 1990's, and the Assembly leader was able to bring politicians, lobbyists and insurance executives together to hammer out a compromise. : : : That quality, political insiders say, marked Mr. Doria as a throwback to an earlier era in Trenton, when access was not so blatantly tied to campaign finance, and when even the inevitable rough-and-tumble of state politics did not seem so, well, rough. "Joe Doria is an example of days gone by when you were expected to be civil and courteous to those with whom you disagreed," said former Gov. James J. Florio. "He is a commendable model of commitment to substance and to civility in public life. The absence of civility precludes the ability of people to come together." : : : Paradoxically, Mr. Florio said, Mr. Doria was brought down last June by "politics that do not lend themselves to compromise and conciliation." : : : Welcome to Hudson County, where knuckles are bare, tempers short and memories long. : : : Mr. Doria's defeat is a direct result of the chaos, divisions and outright hatreds that make Hudson County politics a spectacle like no other in New Jersey. The Democratic organization's patron saint is the late, longtime mayor of Jersey City, Frank Hague, one of the most formidable bosses in American history and author of the deathless phrase, "I am the law." : : : Often, the mayor of Jersey City is the party's most powerful figure. But in 1993, something highly unusual took place there. Bret Shundler, a Republican, was elected mayor of Jersey City. Suddenly, there was no Democratic mayor in the county's largest city to claim first dibs on patronage, contracts and other spoils. Into the void stepped the Hudson County executive, Robert Janiszewski, who took over the organization and imposed order and discipline. Much of the time, however, Mr. Janiszewski was taking bribes, as he has admitted in court. When the escapades of Mr. Janiszewski caught the attention of federal investigators, he was persuaded to tape his conversations while conducting his transactions. Once that came to light, beads of sweat began forming on the brows of political insiders on and off the public payroll. The Democratic organization of Hudson County plunged into disarray. : : : Mr. Menendez, a congressman with enormous influence in Washington, is based in Union City in Hudson County, and he cultivated his own alliances within the organization. But when Mr. Shundler relinquished the mayoralty of Jersey City to mount an unsuccessful campaign for governor in 2001, precedent returned to the city and a Democrat, Glenn Cunningham, was elected to City Hall. Mr. Cunningham sought to re-establish the primacy that other Democratic mayors of Jersey City enjoyed over the county organization, but he found Mr. Menendez in his way. : : : The result was last spring's vicious battle in the 31st legislative district. Mr. Cunningham ran for state Senate (not an uncommon phenomenon in New Jersey politics), and Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo joined him as Assembly candidates. Mr. Doria ran on a slate with L. Harvey Smith as the Senate candidate and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli as the other Assembly candidate. The battle lines were drawn; political insiders watched as Mr. Cunningham tested his political muscle against candidates considered to be aligned with Mr. Menendez and his ally, State Senator Bernard Kenny, the Hudson County Democratic chairman. : : : "It was a case where you had two very strong forces that were inalterably opposed to each other," Mr. Doria said. Mr. Cunningham's strength in Jersey City, which makes up about 60 percent of the district, was too much for Mr. Doria and his running mates to overcome. All three were defeated. : : : More than the loss itself, it was the reason behind Mr. Doria's downfall that infuriated his allies and surprised agnostic onlookers. Rarely are senior legislators sacrificed so casually in a political blood feud. To Mr. Marcus, Mr. Doria was "a victim of what politics in New Jersey has become - we don't care about policy. We only care about politics." : : : The battle continued to simmer even into late October in the form of a lawsuit filed on behalf of Mr. Doria and his running mates. The suit, widely expected to fail, charged the Cunningham slate with several electoral irregularities, which is why Mr. Menendez remained unwilling to concede that Mr. Doria's legislative career was over. But if it came to that, he said, "New Jersey will be worse off." : : : The congressman made it plain that Mr. Doria's unexpected loss has done nothing to ease the bitterness in Hudson County. "It is not unusual to have tough primaries," Mr. Menendez said. "But none of them have ever been of the nature that this one took." : : : As Mr. Menendez put it, the "lack of any rules of engagement by one side" was unprecedented, "even in my 30 years of public life in Hudson County." : : : Reiterating charges that the Cunningham team violated state campaign finance regulations, the congressman said: "You ultimately say to yourself, 'Is the right person on the ballot?' One side played according to the rules of the game and the other did not." : : : Mayor Cunningham, who figures to win his Senate race on Tuesday, had some kind words for Mr. Doria, though none for Mr. Menendez. : : : "Joe served the people of Bayonne and Jersey City honorably," Mr. Cunningham said. "I'm just disappointed that he hasn't accepted the will of the people" -- a reference to the lingering litigation over last spring's primary. Of Mr. Menendez, with whom he once had a warmer relationship, the mayor said: "He needs to concentrate on being a congressman and stop being the new Frank Hague. The congressman is Goliath in Hudson County. I'm David. And Goliath doesn't think David should have a slingshot." : : : Mr. Doria's defeat came less than two years after he lost a chance to resume his place as speaker after the Democrats recaptured the Assembly in 2001. But Governor McGreevey, whom Mr. Doria had opposed during his primary campaign in 1996, instead chose Alberto Sires of Union County, an obscure one-term legislator, as the compromise candidate to be the new speaker. This headed off what could have been an acrimonious revolt against Mr. Doria's leadership from Assemblyman Joseph Roberts of Camden County. : : : Mr. Roberts, an ally of the pre-emininent Democratic power broker of South Jersey, George Norcross III, had been feuding with Mr. Doria over the number of appointments handed out to South Jersey Democrats. This was precisely the kind of headache the new governor did not want, so Mr. Sires emerged as the alternative to outright war. : : : After leading the Democrats through the wilderness of minority party status for a decade, a "disappointed" Mr. Doria went along with the young governor's wishes. "You can't always get what you want," he said. "Didn't somebody write a song about that?" : : : Friends say Mr. Doria's conspicuous lack of bitterness, at least in public, is just another part of what made him stand out as a leader and a legislator. The Rev. James Loughran, president of St. Peter's College in Jersey City, where Mr. Doria worked as an administrator during most of his time in the Assembly, described him as "uncomplaining." : : : "He took the Sires appointment in stride," Father Loughran said, "and he is taking this latest event in stride." : : : Perhaps that is because he still has a job, unlike many politicians who lose re-election bids. Being mayor of Bayonne is a good deal more than a consolation prize for Mr. Doria, who can continue to preside over the city of his birth, and a city in which he and his wife, Maribeth, are raising their daughter, Margaret Mary. With its low-density housing stock, most of it one- and two-family homes, and its thriving commercial strip on Broadway, Bayonne is "the kind of place that reminds people of what Hudson County used to be," said Mr. Scarinci. "It's a place out of time." : : : That image is hard to shake as you walk its tidy streets, patrolled by an endless battalion of crossing guards. Every other block, it seems, has a house of worship of one denomination or another. The Catholic churches, like those of the 1950's, often are associated with a particular ethnic group - Our Lady of Mount Carmel, which has a Polish congregation, is adjacent to St. Michael the Archangel, whose worshipers are Lithuanian. The city's main shopping district is long on mom-and-pop operations, including at least two old-fashioned hardware stores that defy the onslaught of big box stores elsewhere. : : : Still, while it seems well-suited to a mayor described as a throwback to another era, Bayonne has changed a great deal in recent decades. Gone are the thousands of blue-collar jobs that Standard Oil and Texaco once provided along the city's waterfront. Those jobs have not been replaced, but thanks to a light-rail line that offers easy access to Jersey City and the PATH, Bayonne is now attracting commuters who work in financial services and other white-collar jobs. That trend is expected to grow as the city develops the former Military Ocean Terminal, a 430-acre waterfront site on which thousands of new homes will be built in coming years. : : : With just a little less than three years left on his current term as mayor, Mr. Doria will have lots of ribbons to cut as the terminal development moves forward. But he declined to characterize the project as his legacy to his home town. : : : "I don't believe in legacy projects," he said. "I hope everything I do leaves a legacy, from the biggest to the smallest." ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2100 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2003 at 13:03:14 Subject: Wow ...this is great! What a great day today is. Ray is my freeholder. The voters came out and said, "Oh no you don't Gerry!" For Cruz your people acted like street punks and you deserved to loose. Carl kudos' for taking the high road and running your campaign like a grown-up. The Democrats won huge in the state and now are in full control both houses. Glenn Cunningham: You have angered off both sides; your vote will not make or break anything. It is time for you to grow up. You are what you hang with and when the mayoral elections come up it will be A.B.C. all the way...Anyone But Cunningham! (Great line whoever thought of it?) As for Doria , Elba and Harvey Smith if I lived in the 31st I would have done a write in and vote for you three. However, I live in the 33rd. When I my voted for the H.C.D.O. Ticket you three candidates were their in spirit. BTW, congrats to DeGise and Incaln you are both exemplary. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BROBIN posted Message 2101 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2003 at 20:09:54 Subject: Re: SUPREME COURT THROWS OUT HCDO EMERGENT APPEAL OF ELECTION CASE : sglazer@urbantimesnews.com I MUST HAVE MISSED SOMETHING. I HAVE NEVER SEEN OR HEARD IN THE POLITICAL HISTORY OF NEW JERSEY, ANY LIMITS ON PRIMARY SPENDING. IF IT IS AGAINST THE LAW NOW, IT WAS THEN. SO LETS ROLL BACK HISTORY, AND SUE EVERYONE WHO VIOLATED THE LAW. AND IF THEY ARE DEAD, WE CAN SUE THEIR FAMILES. BE CAREFUL OF THE CAN OF WORMS YOU THINK YOU ARE OPENING. YOU WILL OPEN UP THE DOOR TO A HOST OF OTHER PROBLEMS, AND FIND, THAT THOSE WHO STARTED THIS, MAY END UP BEING THE ONES WITH THEIR HEADS ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK. I AM ONLY SAYING, TRED SOFTLY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dear Smitty posted Message 2102 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2003 at 22:56:27 Subject: Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo >Why the anger & hostility? My, my, one would think this was personal. I take umbrage to a Times article & in a classic HCDO move, we attack personally & convolute. The only truth you stated was that I'm not a Bayonne resident. However, my brother has lived & worked there for 25 years. I have friends there for almost 30 years. My father worked there for over 30 years. I worked there for a couple of years & dated a guy or two. Maybe, just maybe mind you, I might know something. I am not civil service & am no one's lackey. Everybody around the state is wrong but I know what is best for you? What's that supposed to mean? You make no sense. Bayonne has overwhelmingly supported the Mayor in every election he has been in. The key words here are "has" & "has been". His recent behaviour has more than one person thinking. But people do have short memories. It was the racist Mayor of JC who deprived us of our rightful representative in Trenton? My dear Snitty, Glenn has not yet gone! I believe he will be sworn in after January. But the extremely racist HCDO did send Mr.(the great white hope) Smith to Trenton as interim senator. A brilliant tactical move, in my opinion. I know Broadway is being repaved as we bicker & type. I asked when is was going to be finished. Pardon my lack of political correctness, the Peninsula (by any other name would still be the MOTBY). We got it 400 acres? Please, if you were educated in Bayonne, don't let anyone know. You'll embarass the school system. Of course the UEZ is a great success. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that an item with 3% sales tax is less than an item with 6% sales tax. But UEZ=Distressed. So asking how the shopping areas in JC are makes what point? I shop Broadway at times. You have some wonderful $0.99 stores. Every statement I made in my original post was true. But convolute if it makes you feel better. It so detracts that the original issue is lost & therefore you must be right. Also note, that with the exception of questioning your education, I have not attacked you personally. And if you think Bayonne just loves Mr. Doria may I suggest the following link: http://www.nj.com/forums/bayonne/ Have a good evening. : : :::Politics aside, who says Joe "I look like a cardboard cut-out in pictures" Doria has done well by Bayonne? : : Empty stores & empty lots on Broadway. Whatever happened to the proposed theater? Bayonne has become old Hobokenish in a way but instead of a bar on every corner it's a $0.99 store or Chinese Take-Out. : : Lost a battleship...to Camden? : : So when are we finding funds to finish paving Broadway? : : Uh, like what are we gonna do with the old MOTBY? : : Seems to me that the police need to take remedial driving courses & pee in the cup a little more often than they do now. Oh, & checking to see what their part time jobs are would not necessarily be a bad thing. : : And if things were so honky-dory, Bayonne wouldn't have qualified for the 3% sales tax. Can we spell "distressed"? : : Maybe, if the back door to Joe's office was nailed shut he would have to stick around & actually listen to the problems people are having. : : What a bunch of sour grapes. I have a feeling this poster, BJ, isn't a Bayonneite just a Cunningham lackie from JC. Everybody around the State is wrong but you know what is best for us. Check and you will see the people of Bayonne overwhelmingly support the Mayor in every election he has been in. It was the racist Mayor of JC who deprived us of our rightful representative in Trenton. And FYI, Broadway is being repaved now, its no longer MOTBY its the Peninsula and we got it 400 acres of waterfront property to develop for free thanks to Mayor Doria and Bob Menendez, the UEZ zone has been a great success and btw how are Central, Bergen, Monticello and Newark Avenues doing under your nitwit Mayor. Can you say, see ya in 2005? : : : : : Like him or not, Joe Doria served his community well. We'll just have to see if his successor will be captive of JC's strong-arming, ego-inflated crew or not. Time will tell. : : : : : : : New York Times, New Jersey Section : : : : November 2, 2003 : : : : For Joseph Doria, A Rare Election. He's Not Running. : : : : By TERRY GOLWAY : : : : Caption: Photos: Joseph V. Doria who lost his speakership and then his Assembly seat, walked away with a reputation as a "legislator's legislator." (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 1); Though no longer in the Legislature, Joseph V. Doria remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city that bears few of the scars that have disfigured much of urban New Jersey. (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 8) : : : : BAYONNE: JOSEPH V. DORIA JR., the senior member of the state Assembly and keeper of its institutional memory, shifted in his chair when a visitor mentioned the word "tragedy." While certainly overstated, it was the word Mr. Doria's friends and allies chose when describing what happened to him this summer. : : : : "I don't know if it was a tragedy," he said. "What is meant to be is meant to be." : : : : Push him a little more, however, and Mr. Doria becomes a bit less philosophical. "I believe," he added, "that I got whipsawed." : : : : And that, his friends argue, was not meant to be. : : : : For the first time in a generation, the name of Joseph V. Doria will not appear on the ballot in Tuesday's state legislative elections. A onetime speaker and leader of the Assembly Democrats during their decade in the minority, Mr. Doria, 57, lost his re-election bid in a Democratic primary in June. : : : : Neither ideology nor issues figured much in his demise. He was collateral damage in the bitter and bloody civil war between Mayor Glenn Cunningham of Jersey City and Representative Robert Menendez for a control of that celebrated -- and often notorious -- institution, the Hudson County Democratic Organization. : : : : Mr. Doria was part of a three-member slate of regular Democrats that lost to Mr. Cunningham's insurgent team in the party primary. Mr. Doria lost by about 500 votes. First elected to the Assembly in 1979, he will leave office in January, although his career is far from finished. He remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city of 62,000 that bears few of the scars that have disfigured so much of urban New Jersey. : : : : It was in Trenton, however, that Joseph Doria became a player in New Jersey politics. While his name never became particularly well-known outside of his district, Mr. Doria needed no introductions when he walked the State House halls. A husky man with a beard and a doctorate from Columbia Teachers College (in educational leadership), Mr. Doria gained a reputation for his affability as well as his command of issues. Donald Scarinci, a Hudson County attorney who was Mr. Doria's counsel in the speaker's office, described his former boss as "the Sam Rayburn of New Jersey," referring to the legendary Texan who served as House speaker for all but four years from 1940 to 1961. "That's the kind of stature he had," Mr. Scarinci added. "He was a legislator's legislator" : : : : Few politicians get to lead a caucus as long as Mr. Doria led the Assembly Democrats - a dozen years. Fewer manage to gain the respect and even affection of the opposition. But Mr. Doria did. "Nobody ever asked Joe Doria for an audience and was denied," said one longtime lobbyist, Alan Marcus. "It didn't matter whether you were a contributor, or a friend, or not. Joe wanted to hear all points of view. He was the most policy-oriented legislator I've ever seen." : : : : Alan Steinberg, a former Whitman administration official who was an adviser to Mr. Doria's Republican successor as speaker, Garabed Haytaian, agreed. "In the New Jersey Assembly, Joe was a person of unquestioned decency and boundless compassion," Mr. Steinberg said. "For Republicans, he was a political adversary without being a personal enemy." : : : : With his impressive resume (a bachelor's degree in history from St. Peter's College and a master's in American studies from Boston College to go along with his doctorate from Columbia) and his passion for history, Mr. Doria gained a reputation as the house intellectual, if you will, of the Hudson County Democratic organization. And while academicians in politics are not always known for the common touch, as Gov. Woodrow Wilson demonstrated during his years in Trenton, Joseph V. Doria the powerful legislator never stopped being Joe Doria from Bayonne, a man with a cluttered desk, a straightforward manner and an aversion for slick self-promotion. : : : : Mr. Doria's legislative accomplishments number in the dozens, from his sponsorship of New Jersey's ban on assault weapons to any number of bills related to his main policy interest - education. : : : : "In the Assembly, he was the go-to person on education bills, from pre-K to post-secondary," said John B. Wilson, president of the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in New Jersey. : : : : Mr. Marcus, the lobbyist, said he dealt with Mr. Doria on health-care legislation in the early 1990's, and the Assembly leader was able to bring politicians, lobbyists and insurance executives together to hammer out a compromise. : : : : That quality, political insiders say, marked Mr. Doria as a throwback to an earlier era in Trenton, when access was not so blatantly tied to campaign finance, and when even the inevitable rough-and-tumble of state politics did not seem so, well, rough. "Joe Doria is an example of days gone by when you were expected to be civil and courteous to those with whom you disagreed," said former Gov. James J. Florio. "He is a commendable model of commitment to substance and to civility in public life. The absence of civility precludes the ability of people to come together." : : : : Paradoxically, Mr. Florio said, Mr. Doria was brought down last June by "politics that do not lend themselves to compromise and conciliation." : : : : Welcome to Hudson County, where knuckles are bare, tempers short and memories long. : : : : Mr. Doria's defeat is a direct result of the chaos, divisions and outright hatreds that make Hudson County politics a spectacle like no other in New Jersey. The Democratic organization's patron saint is the late, longtime mayor of Jersey City, Frank Hague, one of the most formidable bosses in American history and author of the deathless phrase, "I am the law." : : : : Often, the mayor of Jersey City is the party's most powerful figure. But in 1993, something highly unusual took place there. Bret Shundler, a Republican, was elected mayor of Jersey City. Suddenly, there was no Democratic mayor in the county's largest city to claim first dibs on patronage, contracts and other spoils. Into the void stepped the Hudson County executive, Robert Janiszewski, who took over the organization and imposed order and discipline. Much of the time, however, Mr. Janiszewski was taking bribes, as he has admitted in court. When the escapades of Mr. Janiszewski caught the attention of federal investigators, he was persuaded to tape his conversations while conducting his transactions. Once that came to light, beads of sweat began forming on the brows of political insiders on and off the public payroll. The Democratic organization of Hudson County plunged into disarray. : : : : Mr. Menendez, a congressman with enormous influence in Washington, is based in Union City in Hudson County, and he cultivated his own alliances within the organization. But when Mr. Shundler relinquished the mayoralty of Jersey City to mount an unsuccessful campaign for governor in 2001, precedent returned to the city and a Democrat, Glenn Cunningham, was elected to City Hall. Mr. Cunningham sought to re-establish the primacy that other Democratic mayors of Jersey City enjoyed over the county organization, but he found Mr. Menendez in his way. : : : : The result was last spring's vicious battle in the 31st legislative district. Mr. Cunningham ran for state Senate (not an uncommon phenomenon in New Jersey politics), and Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo joined him as Assembly candidates. Mr. Doria ran on a slate with L. Harvey Smith as the Senate candidate and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli as the other Assembly candidate. The battle lines were drawn; political insiders watched as Mr. Cunningham tested his political muscle against candidates considered to be aligned with Mr. Menendez and his ally, State Senator Bernard Kenny, the Hudson County Democratic chairman. : : : : "It was a case where you had two very strong forces that were inalterably opposed to each other," Mr. Doria said. Mr. Cunningham's strength in Jersey City, which makes up about 60 percent of the district, was too much for Mr. Doria and his running mates to overcome. All three were defeated. : : : : More than the loss itself, it was the reason behind Mr. Doria's downfall that infuriated his allies and surprised agnostic onlookers. Rarely are senior legislators sacrificed so casually in a political blood feud. To Mr. Marcus, Mr. Doria was "a victim of what politics in New Jersey has become - we don't care about policy. We only care about politics." : : : : The battle continued to simmer even into late October in the form of a lawsuit filed on behalf of Mr. Doria and his running mates. The suit, widely expected to fail, charged the Cunningham slate with several electoral irregularities, which is why Mr. Menendez remained unwilling to concede that Mr. Doria's legislative career was over. But if it came to that, he said, "New Jersey will be worse off." : : : : The congressman made it plain that Mr. Doria's unexpected loss has done nothing to ease the bitterness in Hudson County. "It is not unusual to have tough primaries," Mr. Menendez said. "But none of them have ever been of the nature that this one took." : : : : As Mr. Menendez put it, the "lack of any rules of engagement by one side" was unprecedented, "even in my 30 years of public life in Hudson County." : : : : Reiterating charges that the Cunningham team violated state campaign finance regulations, the congressman said: "You ultimately say to yourself, 'Is the right person on the ballot?' One side played according to the rules of the game and the other did not." : : : : Mayor Cunningham, who figures to win his Senate race on Tuesday, had some kind words for Mr. Doria, though none for Mr. Menendez. : : : : "Joe served the people of Bayonne and Jersey City honorably," Mr. Cunningham said. "I'm just disappointed that he hasn't accepted the will of the people" -- a reference to the lingering litigation over last spring's primary. Of Mr. Menendez, with whom he once had a warmer relationship, the mayor said: "He needs to concentrate on being a congressman and stop being the new Frank Hague. The congressman is Goliath in Hudson County. I'm David. And Goliath doesn't think David should have a slingshot." : : : : Mr. Doria's defeat came less than two years after he lost a chance to resume his place as speaker after the Democrats recaptured the Assembly in 2001. But Governor McGreevey, whom Mr. Doria had opposed during his primary campaign in 1996, instead chose Alberto Sires of Union County, an obscure one-term legislator, as the compromise candidate to be the new speaker. This headed off what could have been an acrimonious revolt against Mr. Doria's leadership from Assemblyman Joseph Roberts of Camden County. : : : : Mr. Roberts, an ally of the pre-emininent Democratic power broker of South Jersey, George Norcross III, had been feuding with Mr. Doria over the number of appointments handed out to South Jersey Democrats. This was precisely the kind of headache the new governor did not want, so Mr. Sires emerged as the alternative to outright war. : : : : After leading the Democrats through the wilderness of minority party status for a decade, a "disappointed" Mr. Doria went along with the young governor's wishes. "You can't always get what you want," he said. "Didn't somebody write a song about that?" : : : : Friends say Mr. Doria's conspicuous lack of bitterness, at least in public, is just another part of what made him stand out as a leader and a legislator. The Rev. James Loughran, president of St. Peter's College in Jersey City, where Mr. Doria worked as an administrator during most of his time in the Assembly, described him as "uncomplaining." : : : : "He took the Sires appointment in stride," Father Loughran said, "and he is taking this latest event in stride." : : : : Perhaps that is because he still has a job, unlike many politicians who lose re-election bids. Being mayor of Bayonne is a good deal more than a consolation prize for Mr. Doria, who can continue to preside over the city of his birth, and a city in which he and his wife, Maribeth, are raising their daughter, Margaret Mary. With its low-density housing stock, most of it one- and two-family homes, and its thriving commercial strip on Broadway, Bayonne is "the kind of place that reminds people of what Hudson County used to be," said Mr. Scarinci. "It's a place out of time." : : : : That image is hard to shake as you walk its tidy streets, patrolled by an endless battalion of crossing guards. Every other block, it seems, has a house of worship of one denomination or another. The Catholic churches, like those of the 1950's, often are associated with a particular ethnic group - Our Lady of Mount Carmel, which has a Polish congregation, is adjacent to St. Michael the Archangel, whose worshipers are Lithuanian. The city's main shopping district is long on mom-and-pop operations, including at least two old-fashioned hardware stores that defy the onslaught of big box stores elsewhere. : : : : Still, while it seems well-suited to a mayor described as a throwback to another era, Bayonne has changed a great deal in recent decades. Gone are the thousands of blue-collar jobs that Standard Oil and Texaco once provided along the city's waterfront. Those jobs have not been replaced, but thanks to a light-rail line that offers easy access to Jersey City and the PATH, Bayonne is now attracting commuters who work in financial services and other white-collar jobs. That trend is expected to grow as the city develops the former Military Ocean Terminal, a 430-acre waterfront site on which thousands of new homes will be built in coming years. : : : : With just a little less than three years left on his current term as mayor, Mr. Doria will have lots of ribbons to cut as the terminal development moves forward. But he declined to characterize the project as his legacy to his home town. : : : : "I don't believe in legacy projects," he said. "I hope everything I do leaves a legacy, from the biggest to the smallest." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jose Munoz posted Message 2103 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2003 at 00:17:07 Subject: From Munoz Hi board, I will like to thank everyone, those who supporter us and those who did not. As you all know is very hard to run an election were you are outspent and outnumbered. But the important thing is that I was able to bring issue into the public and give a choice to those who believe the HCDO is not doing a good job in our county. This is the start of my political career and the support that I got showed me that if I continue to work with the community I could be elected and become a public servant. It was a learning experience and one i will never forget. From the bottom of my heart I thank all of you for your support, Jose Munoz ***************** End Of Article ****************** poor hudson posted Message 2104 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2003 at 02:22:05 Subject: Re: Wow ...this is great! Poor Hudson County, some people voted and voted often! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bananna Counter posted Message 2105 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2003 at 05:06:16 Subject: Re: Outrageous Think those numbers are bad? check out Billy-boy's compensation package. Besides his 90+ salary (which will soon go over a hundred thousand with his double dipping in Trenton) there's his law school tuition, his car and insurance, and of course vacation and benefits. Not even counting conventions and other perks he slops up monthly, the Grand Freakin total....Approximately------> $135,000 to $160,000 per year!!!!! : Steve Glazer has reason to be JEALOUS! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Smitty posted Message 2106 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2003 at 10:09:41 Subject: Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo : >Why the anger & hostility? My, my, one would think this was personal. I take umbrage to a Times article & in a classic HCDO move, we attack personally & convolute. : The only truth you stated was that I'm not a Bayonne resident. However, my brother has lived & worked there for 25 years. I have friends there for almost 30 years. My father worked there for over 30 years. I worked there for a couple of years & dated a guy or two. Maybe, just maybe mind you, I might know something. : I am not civil service & am no one's lackey. : Everybody around the state is wrong but I know what is best for you? What's that supposed to mean? : You make no sense. : Bayonne has overwhelmingly supported the Mayor in every election he has been in. The key words here are "has" & "has been". His recent behaviour has more than one person thinking. But people do have short memories. : It was the racist Mayor of JC who deprived us of our rightful representative in Trenton? : My dear Snitty, Glenn has not yet gone! I believe he will be sworn in after January. But the extremely racist HCDO did send Mr.(the great white hope) Smith to Trenton as interim senator. A brilliant tactical move, in my opinion. : I know Broadway is being repaved as we bicker & type. I asked when is was going to be finished. : Pardon my lack of political correctness, the Peninsula (by any other name would still be the MOTBY). : We got it 400 acres? Please, if you were educated in Bayonne, don't let anyone know. You'll embarass the school system. : Of course the UEZ is a great success. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that an item with 3% sales tax is less than an item with 6% sales tax. But UEZ=Distressed. So asking how the shopping areas in JC are makes what point? I shop Broadway at times. You have some wonderful $0.99 stores. : Every statement I made in my original post was true. But convolute if it makes you feel better. It so detracts that the original issue is lost & therefore you must be right. : Also note, that with the exception of questioning your education, I have not attacked you personally. : And if you think Bayonne just loves Mr. Doria may I suggest the following link: : http://www.nj.com/forums/bayonne/ : : Have a good evening. : : : : :::Politics aside, who says Joe "I look like a cardboard cut-out in pictures" Doria has done well by Bayonne? : : : Empty stores & empty lots on Broadway. Whatever happened to the proposed theater? Bayonne has become old Hobokenish in a way but instead of a bar on every corner it's a $0.99 store or Chinese Take-Out. : : : Lost a battleship...to Camden? : : : So when are we finding funds to finish paving Broadway? : : : Uh, like what are we gonna do with the old MOTBY? : : : Seems to me that the police need to take remedial driving courses & pee in the cup a little more often than they do now. Oh, & checking to see what their part time jobs are would not necessarily be a bad thing. : : : And if things were so honky-dory, Bayonne wouldn't have qualified for the 3% sales tax. Can we spell "distressed"? : : : Maybe, if the back door to Joe's office was nailed shut he would have to stick around & actually listen to the problems people are having. : : : What a bunch of sour grapes. I have a feeling this poster, BJ, isn't a Bayonneite just a Cunningham lackie from JC. Everybody around the State is wrong but you know what is best for us. Check and you will see the people of Bayonne overwhelmingly support the Mayor in every election he has been in. It was the racist Mayor of JC who deprived us of our rightful representative in Trenton. And FYI, Broadway is being repaved now, its no longer MOTBY its the Peninsula and we got it 400 acres of waterfront property to develop for free thanks to Mayor Doria and Bob Menendez, the UEZ zone has been a great success and btw how are Central, Bergen, Monticello and Newark Avenues doing under your nitwit Mayor. Can you say, see ya in 2005? : : : : : : : Like him or not, Joe Doria served his community well. We'll just have to see if his successor will be captive of JC's strong-arming, ego-inflated crew or not. Time will tell. : : : : : : : : : New York Times, New Jersey Section : : : : : November 2, 2003 : : : : : For Joseph Doria, A Rare Election. He's Not Running. : : : : : By TERRY GOLWAY : : : : : Caption: Photos: Joseph V. Doria who lost his speakership and then his Assembly seat, walked away with a reputation as a "legislator's legislator." (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 1); Though no longer in the Legislature, Joseph V. Doria remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city that bears few of the scars that have disfigured much of urban New Jersey. (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 8) : : : : : BAYONNE: JOSEPH V. DORIA JR., the senior member of the state Assembly and keeper of its institutional memory, shifted in his chair when a visitor mentioned the word "tragedy." While certainly overstated, it was the word Mr. Doria's friends and allies chose when describing what happened to him this summer. : : : : : "I don't know if it was a tragedy," he said. "What is meant to be is meant to be." : : : : : Push him a little more, however, and Mr. Doria becomes a bit less philosophical. "I believe," he added, "that I got whipsawed." : : : : : And that, his friends argue, was not meant to be. : : : : : For the first time in a generation, the name of Joseph V. Doria will not appear on the ballot in Tuesday's state legislative elections. A onetime speaker and leader of the Assembly Democrats during their decade in the minority, Mr. Doria, 57, lost his re-election bid in a Democratic primary in June. : : : : : Neither ideology nor issues figured much in his demise. He was collateral damage in the bitter and bloody civil war between Mayor Glenn Cunningham of Jersey City and Representative Robert Menendez for a control of that celebrated -- and often notorious -- institution, the Hudson County Democratic Organization. : : : : : Mr. Doria was part of a three-member slate of regular Democrats that lost to Mr. Cunningham's insurgent team in the party primary. Mr. Doria lost by about 500 votes. First elected to the Assembly in 1979, he will leave office in January, although his career is far from finished. He remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city of 62,000 that bears few of the scars that have disfigured so much of urban New Jersey. : : : : : It was in Trenton, however, that Joseph Doria became a player in New Jersey politics. While his name never became particularly well-known outside of his district, Mr. Doria needed no introductions when he walked the State House halls. A husky man with a beard and a doctorate from Columbia Teachers College (in educational leadership), Mr. Doria gained a reputation for his affability as well as his command of issues. Donald Scarinci, a Hudson County attorney who was Mr. Doria's counsel in the speaker's office, described his former boss as "the Sam Rayburn of New Jersey," referring to the legendary Texan who served as House speaker for all but four years from 1940 to 1961. "That's the kind of stature he had," Mr. Scarinci added. "He was a legislator's legislator" : : : : : Few politicians get to lead a caucus as long as Mr. Doria led the Assembly Democrats - a dozen years. Fewer manage to gain the respect and even affection of the opposition. But Mr. Doria did. "Nobody ever asked Joe Doria for an audience and was denied," said one longtime lobbyist, Alan Marcus. "It didn't matter whether you were a contributor, or a friend, or not. Joe wanted to hear all points of view. He was the most policy-oriented legislator I've ever seen." : : : : : Alan Steinberg, a former Whitman administration official who was an adviser to Mr. Doria's Republican successor as speaker, Garabed Haytaian, agreed. "In the New Jersey Assembly, Joe was a person of unquestioned decency and boundless compassion," Mr. Steinberg said. "For Republicans, he was a political adversary without being a personal enemy." : : : : : With his impressive resume (a bachelor's degree in history from St. Peter's College and a master's in American studies from Boston College to go along with his doctorate from Columbia) and his passion for history, Mr. Doria gained a reputation as the house intellectual, if you will, of the Hudson County Democratic organization. And while academicians in politics are not always known for the common touch, as Gov. Woodrow Wilson demonstrated during his years in Trenton, Joseph V. Doria the powerful legislator never stopped being Joe Doria from Bayonne, a man with a cluttered desk, a straightforward manner and an aversion for slick self-promotion. : : : : : Mr. Doria's legislative accomplishments number in the dozens, from his sponsorship of New Jersey's ban on assault weapons to any number of bills related to his main policy interest - education. : : : : : "In the Assembly, he was the go-to person on education bills, from pre-K to post-secondary," said John B. Wilson, president of the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in New Jersey. : : : : : Mr. Marcus, the lobbyist, said he dealt with Mr. Doria on health-care legislation in the early 1990's, and the Assembly leader was able to bring politicians, lobbyists and insurance executives together to hammer out a compromise. : : : : : That quality, political insiders say, marked Mr. Doria as a throwback to an earlier era in Trenton, when access was not so blatantly tied to campaign finance, and when even the inevitable rough-and-tumble of state politics did not seem so, well, rough. "Joe Doria is an example of days gone by when you were expected to be civil and courteous to those with whom you disagreed," said former Gov. James J. Florio. "He is a commendable model of commitment to substance and to civility in public life. The absence of civility precludes the ability of people to come together." : : : : : Paradoxically, Mr. Florio said, Mr. Doria was brought down last June by "politics that do not lend themselves to compromise and conciliation." : : : : : Welcome to Hudson County, where knuckles are bare, tempers short and memories long. : : : : : Mr. Doria's defeat is a direct result of the chaos, divisions and outright hatreds that make Hudson County politics a spectacle like no other in New Jersey. The Democratic organization's patron saint is the late, longtime mayor of Jersey City, Frank Hague, one of the most formidable bosses in American history and author of the deathless phrase, "I am the law." : : : : : Often, the mayor of Jersey City is the party's most powerful figure. But in 1993, something highly unusual took place there. Bret Shundler, a Republican, was elected mayor of Jersey City. Suddenly, there was no Democratic mayor in the county's largest city to claim first dibs on patronage, contracts and other spoils. Into the void stepped the Hudson County executive, Robert Janiszewski, who took over the organization and imposed order and discipline. Much of the time, however, Mr. Janiszewski was taking bribes, as he has admitted in court. When the escapades of Mr. Janiszewski caught the attention of federal investigators, he was persuaded to tape his conversations while conducting his transactions. Once that came to light, beads of sweat began forming on the brows of political insiders on and off the public payroll. The Democratic organization of Hudson County plunged into disarray. : : : : : Mr. Menendez, a congressman with enormous influence in Washington, is based in Union City in Hudson County, and he cultivated his own alliances within the organization. But when Mr. Shundler relinquished the mayoralty of Jersey City to mount an unsuccessful campaign for governor in 2001, precedent returned to the city and a Democrat, Glenn Cunningham, was elected to City Hall. Mr. Cunningham sought to re-establish the primacy that other Democratic mayors of Jersey City enjoyed over the county organization, but he found Mr. Menendez in his way. : : : : : The result was last spring's vicious battle in the 31st legislative district. Mr. Cunningham ran for state Senate (not an uncommon phenomenon in New Jersey politics), and Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo joined him as Assembly candidates. Mr. Doria ran on a slate with L. Harvey Smith as the Senate candidate and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli as the other Assembly candidate. The battle lines were drawn; political insiders watched as Mr. Cunningham tested his political muscle against candidates considered to be aligned with Mr. Menendez and his ally, State Senator Bernard Kenny, the Hudson County Democratic chairman. : : : : : "It was a case where you had two very strong forces that were inalterably opposed to each other," Mr. Doria said. Mr. Cunningham's strength in Jersey City, which makes up about 60 percent of the district, was too much for Mr. Doria and his running mates to overcome. All three were defeated. : : : : : More than the loss itself, it was the reason behind Mr. Doria's downfall that infuriated his allies and surprised agnostic onlookers. Rarely are senior legislators sacrificed so casually in a political blood feud. To Mr. Marcus, Mr. Doria was "a victim of what politics in New Jersey has become - we don't care about policy. We only care about politics." : : : : : The battle continued to simmer even into late October in the form of a lawsuit filed on behalf of Mr. Doria and his running mates. The suit, widely expected to fail, charged the Cunningham slate with several electoral irregularities, which is why Mr. Menendez remained unwilling to concede that Mr. Doria's legislative career was over. But if it came to that, he said, "New Jersey will be worse off." : : : : : The congressman made it plain that Mr. Doria's unexpected loss has done nothing to ease the bitterness in Hudson County. "It is not unusual to have tough primaries," Mr. Menendez said. "But none of them have ever been of the nature that this one took." : : : : : As Mr. Menendez put it, the "lack of any rules of engagement by one side" was unprecedented, "even in my 30 years of public life in Hudson County." : : : : : Reiterating charges that the Cunningham team violated state campaign finance regulations, the congressman said: "You ultimately say to yourself, 'Is the right person on the ballot?' One side played according to the rules of the game and the other did not." : : : : : Mayor Cunningham, who figures to win his Senate race on Tuesday, had some kind words for Mr. Doria, though none for Mr. Menendez. : : : : : "Joe served the people of Bayonne and Jersey City honorably," Mr. Cunningham said. "I'm just disappointed that he hasn't accepted the will of the people" -- a reference to the lingering litigation over last spring's primary. Of Mr. Menendez, with whom he once had a warmer relationship, the mayor said: "He needs to concentrate on being a congressman and stop being the new Frank Hague. The congressman is Goliath in Hudson County. I'm David. And Goliath doesn't think David should have a slingshot." : : : : : Mr. Doria's defeat came less than two years after he lost a chance to resume his place as speaker after the Democrats recaptured the Assembly in 2001. But Governor McGreevey, whom Mr. Doria had opposed during his primary campaign in 1996, instead chose Alberto Sires of Union County, an obscure one-term legislator, as the compromise candidate to be the new speaker. This headed off what could have been an acrimonious revolt against Mr. Doria's leadership from Assemblyman Joseph Roberts of Camden County. : : : : : Mr. Roberts, an ally of the pre-emininent Democratic power broker of South Jersey, George Norcross III, had been feuding with Mr. Doria over the number of appointments handed out to South Jersey Democrats. This was precisely the kind of headache the new governor did not want, so Mr. Sires emerged as the alternative to outright war. : : : : : After leading the Democrats through the wilderness of minority party status for a decade, a "disappointed" Mr. Doria went along with the young governor's wishes. "You can't always get what you want," he said. "Didn't somebody write a song about that?" : : : : : Friends say Mr. Doria's conspicuous lack of bitterness, at least in public, is just another part of what made him stand out as a leader and a legislator. The Rev. James Loughran, president of St. Peter's College in Jersey City, where Mr. Doria worked as an administrator during most of his time in the Assembly, described him as "uncomplaining." : : : : : "He took the Sires appointment in stride," Father Loughran said, "and he is taking this latest event in stride." : : : : : Perhaps that is because he still has a job, unlike many politicians who lose re-election bids. Being mayor of Bayonne is a good deal more than a consolation prize for Mr. Doria, who can continue to preside over the city of his birth, and a city in which he and his wife, Maribeth, are raising their daughter, Margaret Mary. With its low-density housing stock, most of it one- and two-family homes, and its thriving commercial strip on Broadway, Bayonne is "the kind of place that reminds people of what Hudson County used to be," said Mr. Scarinci. "It's a place out of time." : : : : : That image is hard to shake as you walk its tidy streets, patrolled by an endless battalion of crossing guards. Every other block, it seems, has a house of worship of one denomination or another. The Catholic churches, like those of the 1950's, often are associated with a particular ethnic group - Our Lady of Mount Carmel, which has a Polish congregation, is adjacent to St. Michael the Archangel, whose worshipers are Lithuanian. The city's main shopping district is long on mom-and-pop operations, including at least two old-fashioned hardware stores that defy the onslaught of big box stores elsewhere. : : : : : Still, while it seems well-suited to a mayor described as a throwback to another era, Bayonne has changed a great deal in recent decades. Gone are the thousands of blue-collar jobs that Standard Oil and Texaco once provided along the city's waterfront. Those jobs have not been replaced, but thanks to a light-rail line that offers easy access to Jersey City and the PATH, Bayonne is now attracting commuters who work in financial services and other white-collar jobs. That trend is expected to grow as the city develops the former Military Ocean Terminal, a 430-acre waterfront site on which thousands of new homes will be built in coming years. : : : : : With just a little less than three years left on his current term as mayor, Mr. Doria will have lots of ribbons to cut as the terminal development moves forward. But he declined to characterize the project as his legacy to his home town. : : : : : "I don't believe in legacy projects," he said. "I hope everything I do leaves a legacy, from the biggest to the smallest." BJ, its crock not crook brain surgeon. So every city in the UEZ is distressed? And if distressed equals more state aid then distress me please. And Joe Doria continues to enjoy the support of Bayonne people. On Tuesday Tom Degise received far more votes than Chiappone or Cunningham because of the support of Joe Doria. And the salutations from people throughout the state from both sides of the aisle are equalized by a mysterious poster on a remote message board dominated by the racist rantings of an illiterate newspaper. And I suppose the card board cut out comment is not a personal smear. Hey lady stay on your side of the border and let Bayonne tend to their own affairs. Glad none of those guys you dated decided to bring you to our town. P.S. What kind of nickname is BJ for a lady? ***************** End Of Article ****************** smilepop posted Message 2107 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2003 at 10:26:06 Subject: Re: Wow ...this is great! :Hudson County, some people voted and voted the right way! ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2108 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2003 at 13:15:11 Subject: Are we talking about Ayala ? If he's getting that much, that is REALLY outrageous. ***************** End Of Article ****************** hudson county employyes posted Message 2109 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2003 at 14:08:20 Subject: Re: Wow ...this is great! They had the county employees on the street getting votes or else lose their jobs (is that democracy). One came to me crying to please vote democrat, that he had to feed his poor children and that if he did not get enough votes in his distric he would be fired. Hudson County, the place where people vote often and death people still vote! Feds feds please stop the corruption... ***************** End Of Article ****************** No that is The Jimmy King Way posted Message 2110 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2003 at 15:23:35 Subject: Should read...... : They had the city employees on the street getting votes or else lose their jobs (is that democracy). One came to me crying to please vote democrat, that he had to feed his poor children and that if he did not get enough votes in his distric he would be fired. : City Hall, the place where people vote often and death people still vote! Feds feds please stop the corruption... ***************** End Of Article ****************** 11-6-03 posted Message 2111 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2003 at 18:21:57 Subject: Ball in Gov's Court Democrats' win not an affirmation of McGreevey Thursday, November 6, 2003 By HERB JACKSON RECORD COLUMNIST . . . Another senator-elect is someone McGreevey took the unusual step of actively campaigning against in the June primary, Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham. . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dear Smitty posted Message 2112 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2003 at 19:48:19 Subject: Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo > Once again, for whatever reasons, you have made this a personal attack on me. Read the post again. I did date a couple of men from Bayonne. So, I am not allowed to post on a remote message board dominated by racist rantings of an illiterate newspaper? I'm afraid we will have to defer to Anthony for any judgement; afterall, it is his board. The card board cut out remark is not a personal smear, it is an observation. Look at just about every picture of Mr. Doria & you will see the same pose, same angle, same smile, same stance. I made no disparaging remarks about any physical attributes. In fact, for a larger man, Mr. Doria presents a polished appearance; showing a fine sense of his own style. As for the UEZ, there is a criteria. Here is the link: http//www.bayonnenj.org/uez/ It is geared to stimulate. Since the loss of the base & I believe about 1200 jobs, trickle down economics, not a good kind, has been in place. Recovery has been slow so everything is not honky-Doria (that's a joke). But once again, you have strayed from my original post. When all else fails, personally attack & convolute. Tom DeG & Tony Chiappone were not even part of my post & you bring them into it. I mention Mr. Doria, by name, twice & you make it the hall mark of your posts. My, my, my. And please, do not take this personally, but I am sure Bayonne Hosp, a fine institution, which saved my brother's (the Bayonne resident) life, surely has some sort of anger management course. I couldn't bear it if I was a contributing factor in your high blood pressure, stroke or heart attack. BTW, I had dinner with friends (from Bayonne) at San Vito's last Friday nite. Good food, good friends - just a few of the things that makes life worthwhile. : : >Why the anger & hostility? My, my, one would think this was personal. I take umbrage to a Times article & in a classic HCDO move, we attack personally & convolute. : : The only truth you stated was that I'm not a Bayonne resident. However, my brother has lived & worked there for 25 years. I have friends there for almost 30 years. My father worked there for over 30 years. I worked there for a couple of years & dated a guy or two. Maybe, just maybe mind you, I might know something. : : I am not civil service & am no one's lackey. : : Everybody around the state is wrong but I know what is best for you? What's that supposed to mean? : : You make no sense. : : Bayonne has overwhelmingly supported the Mayor in every election he has been in. The key words here are "has" & "has been". His recent behaviour has more than one person thinking. But people do have short memories. : : It was the racist Mayor of JC who deprived us of our rightful representative in Trenton? : : My dear Snitty, Glenn has not yet gone! I believe he will be sworn in after January. But the extremely racist HCDO did send Mr.(the great white hope) Smith to Trenton as interim senator. A brilliant tactical move, in my opinion. : : I know Broadway is being repaved as we bicker & type. I asked when is was going to be finished. : : Pardon my lack of political correctness, the Peninsula (by any other name would still be the MOTBY). : : We got it 400 acres? Please, if you were educated in Bayonne, don't let anyone know. You'll embarass the school system. : : Of course the UEZ is a great success. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that an item with 3% sales tax is less than an item with 6% sales tax. But UEZ=Distressed. So asking how the shopping areas in JC are makes what point? I shop Broadway at times. You have some wonderful $0.99 stores. : : Every statement I made in my original post was true. But convolute if it makes you feel better. It so detracts that the original issue is lost & therefore you must be right. : : Also note, that with the exception of questioning your education, I have not attacked you personally. : : And if you think Bayonne just loves Mr. Doria may I suggest the following link: : : http://www.nj.com/forums/bayonne/ : : : : Have a good evening. : : : : : : : :::Politics aside, who says Joe "I look like a cardboard cut-out in pictures" Doria has done well by Bayonne? : : : : Empty stores & empty lots on Broadway. Whatever happened to the proposed theater? Bayonne has become old Hobokenish in a way but instead of a bar on every corner it's a $0.99 store or Chinese Take-Out. : : : : Lost a battleship...to Camden? : : : : So when are we finding funds to finish paving Broadway? : : : : Uh, like what are we gonna do with the old MOTBY? : : : : Seems to me that the police need to take remedial driving courses & pee in the cup a little more often than they do now. Oh, & checking to see what their part time jobs are would not necessarily be a bad thing. : : : : And if things were so honky-dory, Bayonne wouldn't have qualified for the 3% sales tax. Can we spell "distressed"? : : : : Maybe, if the back door to Joe's office was nailed shut he would have to stick around & actually listen to the problems people are having. : : : : What a bunch of sour grapes. I have a feeling this poster, BJ, isn't a Bayonneite just a Cunningham lackie from JC. Everybody around the State is wrong but you know what is best for us. Check and you will see the people of Bayonne overwhelmingly support the Mayor in every election he has been in. It was the racist Mayor of JC who deprived us of our rightful representative in Trenton. And FYI, Broadway is being repaved now, its no longer MOTBY its the Peninsula and we got it 400 acres of waterfront property to develop for free thanks to Mayor Doria and Bob Menendez, the UEZ zone has been a great success and btw how are Central, Bergen, Monticello and Newark Avenues doing under your nitwit Mayor. Can you say, see ya in 2005? : : : : : : : : : Like him or not, Joe Doria served his community well. We'll just have to see if his successor will be captive of JC's strong-arming, ego-inflated crew or not. Time will tell. : : : : : : : : : : : New York Times, New Jersey Section : : : : : : November 2, 2003 : : : : : : For Joseph Doria, A Rare Election. He's Not Running. : : : : : : By TERRY GOLWAY : : : : : : Caption: Photos: Joseph V. Doria who lost his speakership and then his Assembly seat, walked away with a reputation as a "legislator's legislator." (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 1); Though no longer in the Legislature, Joseph V. Doria remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city that bears few of the scars that have disfigured much of urban New Jersey. (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 8) : : : : : : BAYONNE: JOSEPH V. DORIA JR., the senior member of the state Assembly and keeper of its institutional memory, shifted in his chair when a visitor mentioned the word "tragedy." While certainly overstated, it was the word Mr. Doria's friends and allies chose when describing what happened to him this summer. : : : : : : "I don't know if it was a tragedy," he said. "What is meant to be is meant to be." : : : : : : Push him a little more, however, and Mr. Doria becomes a bit less philosophical. "I believe," he added, "that I got whipsawed." : : : : : : And that, his friends argue, was not meant to be. : : : : : : For the first time in a generation, the name of Joseph V. Doria will not appear on the ballot in Tuesday's state legislative elections. A onetime speaker and leader of the Assembly Democrats during their decade in the minority, Mr. Doria, 57, lost his re-election bid in a Democratic primary in June. : : : : : : Neither ideology nor issues figured much in his demise. He was collateral damage in the bitter and bloody civil war between Mayor Glenn Cunningham of Jersey City and Representative Robert Menendez for a control of that celebrated -- and often notorious -- institution, the Hudson County Democratic Organization. : : : : : : Mr. Doria was part of a three-member slate of regular Democrats that lost to Mr. Cunningham's insurgent team in the party primary. Mr. Doria lost by about 500 votes. First elected to the Assembly in 1979, he will leave office in January, although his career is far from finished. He remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city of 62,000 that bears few of the scars that have disfigured so much of urban New Jersey. : : : : : : It was in Trenton, however, that Joseph Doria became a player in New Jersey politics. While his name never became particularly well-known outside of his district, Mr. Doria needed no introductions when he walked the State House halls. A husky man with a beard and a doctorate from Columbia Teachers College (in educational leadership), Mr. Doria gained a reputation for his affability as well as his command of issues. Donald Scarinci, a Hudson County attorney who was Mr. Doria's counsel in the speaker's office, described his former boss as "the Sam Rayburn of New Jersey," referring to the legendary Texan who served as House speaker for all but four years from 1940 to 1961. "That's the kind of stature he had," Mr. Scarinci added. "He was a legislator's legislator" : : : : : : Few politicians get to lead a caucus as long as Mr. Doria led the Assembly Democrats - a dozen years. Fewer manage to gain the respect and even affection of the opposition. But Mr. Doria did. "Nobody ever asked Joe Doria for an audience and was denied," said one longtime lobbyist, Alan Marcus. "It didn't matter whether you were a contributor, or a friend, or not. Joe wanted to hear all points of view. He was the most policy-oriented legislator I've ever seen." : : : : : : Alan Steinberg, a former Whitman administration official who was an adviser to Mr. Doria's Republican successor as speaker, Garabed Haytaian, agreed. "In the New Jersey Assembly, Joe was a person of unquestioned decency and boundless compassion," Mr. Steinberg said. "For Republicans, he was a political adversary without being a personal enemy." : : : : : : With his impressive resume (a bachelor's degree in history from St. Peter's College and a master's in American studies from Boston College to go along with his doctorate from Columbia) and his passion for history, Mr. Doria gained a reputation as the house intellectual, if you will, of the Hudson County Democratic organization. And while academicians in politics are not always known for the common touch, as Gov. Woodrow Wilson demonstrated during his years in Trenton, Joseph V. Doria the powerful legislator never stopped being Joe Doria from Bayonne, a man with a cluttered desk, a straightforward manner and an aversion for slick self-promotion. : : : : : : Mr. Doria's legislative accomplishments number in the dozens, from his sponsorship of New Jersey's ban on assault weapons to any number of bills related to his main policy interest - education. : : : : : : "In the Assembly, he was the go-to person on education bills, from pre-K to post-secondary," said John B. Wilson, president of the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in New Jersey. : : : : : : Mr. Marcus, the lobbyist, said he dealt with Mr. Doria on health-care legislation in the early 1990's, and the Assembly leader was able to bring politicians, lobbyists and insurance executives together to hammer out a compromise. : : : : : : That quality, political insiders say, marked Mr. Doria as a throwback to an earlier era in Trenton, when access was not so blatantly tied to campaign finance, and when even the inevitable rough-and-tumble of state politics did not seem so, well, rough. "Joe Doria is an example of days gone by when you were expected to be civil and courteous to those with whom you disagreed," said former Gov. James J. Florio. "He is a commendable model of commitment to substance and to civility in public life. The absence of civility precludes the ability of people to come together." : : : : : : Paradoxically, Mr. Florio said, Mr. Doria was brought down last June by "politics that do not lend themselves to compromise and conciliation." : : : : : : Welcome to Hudson County, where knuckles are bare, tempers short and memories long. : : : : : : Mr. Doria's defeat is a direct result of the chaos, divisions and outright hatreds that make Hudson County politics a spectacle like no other in New Jersey. The Democratic organization's patron saint is the late, longtime mayor of Jersey City, Frank Hague, one of the most formidable bosses in American history and author of the deathless phrase, "I am the law." : : : : : : Often, the mayor of Jersey City is the party's most powerful figure. But in 1993, something highly unusual took place there. Bret Shundler, a Republican, was elected mayor of Jersey City. Suddenly, there was no Democratic mayor in the county's largest city to claim first dibs on patronage, contracts and other spoils. Into the void stepped the Hudson County executive, Robert Janiszewski, who took over the organization and imposed order and discipline. Much of the time, however, Mr. Janiszewski was taking bribes, as he has admitted in court. When the escapades of Mr. Janiszewski caught the attention of federal investigators, he was persuaded to tape his conversations while conducting his transactions. Once that came to light, beads of sweat began forming on the brows of political insiders on and off the public payroll. The Democratic organization of Hudson County plunged into disarray. : : : : : : Mr. Menendez, a congressman with enormous influence in Washington, is based in Union City in Hudson County, and he cultivated his own alliances within the organization. But when Mr. Shundler relinquished the mayoralty of Jersey City to mount an unsuccessful campaign for governor in 2001, precedent returned to the city and a Democrat, Glenn Cunningham, was elected to City Hall. Mr. Cunningham sought to re-establish the primacy that other Democratic mayors of Jersey City enjoyed over the county organization, but he found Mr. Menendez in his way. : : : : : : The result was last spring's vicious battle in the 31st legislative district. Mr. Cunningham ran for state Senate (not an uncommon phenomenon in New Jersey politics), and Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo joined him as Assembly candidates. Mr. Doria ran on a slate with L. Harvey Smith as the Senate candidate and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli as the other Assembly candidate. The battle lines were drawn; political insiders watched as Mr. Cunningham tested his political muscle against candidates considered to be aligned with Mr. Menendez and his ally, State Senator Bernard Kenny, the Hudson County Democratic chairman. : : : : : : "It was a case where you had two very strong forces that were inalterably opposed to each other," Mr. Doria said. Mr. Cunningham's strength in Jersey City, which makes up about 60 percent of the district, was too much for Mr. Doria and his running mates to overcome. All three were defeated. : : : : : : More than the loss itself, it was the reason behind Mr. Doria's downfall that infuriated his allies and surprised agnostic onlookers. Rarely are senior legislators sacrificed so casually in a political blood feud. To Mr. Marcus, Mr. Doria was "a victim of what politics in New Jersey has become - we don't care about policy. We only care about politics." : : : : : : The battle continued to simmer even into late October in the form of a lawsuit filed on behalf of Mr. Doria and his running mates. The suit, widely expected to fail, charged the Cunningham slate with several electoral irregularities, which is why Mr. Menendez remained unwilling to concede that Mr. Doria's legislative career was over. But if it came to that, he said, "New Jersey will be worse off." : : : : : : The congressman made it plain that Mr. Doria's unexpected loss has done nothing to ease the bitterness in Hudson County. "It is not unusual to have tough primaries," Mr. Menendez said. "But none of them have ever been of the nature that this one took." : : : : : : As Mr. Menendez put it, the "lack of any rules of engagement by one side" was unprecedented, "even in my 30 years of public life in Hudson County." : : : : : : Reiterating charges that the Cunningham team violated state campaign finance regulations, the congressman said: "You ultimately say to yourself, 'Is the right person on the ballot?' One side played according to the rules of the game and the other did not." : : : : : : Mayor Cunningham, who figures to win his Senate race on Tuesday, had some kind words for Mr. Doria, though none for Mr. Menendez. : : : : : : "Joe served the people of Bayonne and Jersey City honorably," Mr. Cunningham said. "I'm just disappointed that he hasn't accepted the will of the people" -- a reference to the lingering litigation over last spring's primary. Of Mr. Menendez, with whom he once had a warmer relationship, the mayor said: "He needs to concentrate on being a congressman and stop being the new Frank Hague. The congressman is Goliath in Hudson County. I'm David. And Goliath doesn't think David should have a slingshot." : : : : : : Mr. Doria's defeat came less than two years after he lost a chance to resume his place as speaker after the Democrats recaptured the Assembly in 2001. But Governor McGreevey, whom Mr. Doria had opposed during his primary campaign in 1996, instead chose Alberto Sires of Union County, an obscure one-term legislator, as the compromise candidate to be the new speaker. This headed off what could have been an acrimonious revolt against Mr. Doria's leadership from Assemblyman Joseph Roberts of Camden County. : : : : : : Mr. Roberts, an ally of the pre-emininent Democratic power broker of South Jersey, George Norcross III, had been feuding with Mr. Doria over the number of appointments handed out to South Jersey Democrats. This was precisely the kind of headache the new governor did not want, so Mr. Sires emerged as the alternative to outright war. : : : : : : After leading the Democrats through the wilderness of minority party status for a decade, a "disappointed" Mr. Doria went along with the young governor's wishes. "You can't always get what you want," he said. "Didn't somebody write a song about that?" : : : : : : Friends say Mr. Doria's conspicuous lack of bitterness, at least in public, is just another part of what made him stand out as a leader and a legislator. The Rev. James Loughran, president of St. Peter's College in Jersey City, where Mr. Doria worked as an administrator during most of his time in the Assembly, described him as "uncomplaining." : : : : : : "He took the Sires appointment in stride," Father Loughran said, "and he is taking this latest event in stride." : : : : : : Perhaps that is because he still has a job, unlike many politicians who lose re-election bids. Being mayor of Bayonne is a good deal more than a consolation prize for Mr. Doria, who can continue to preside over the city of his birth, and a city in which he and his wife, Maribeth, are raising their daughter, Margaret Mary. With its low-density housing stock, most of it one- and two-family homes, and its thriving commercial strip on Broadway, Bayonne is "the kind of place that reminds people of what Hudson County used to be," said Mr. Scarinci. "It's a place out of time." : : : : : : That image is hard to shake as you walk its tidy streets, patrolled by an endless battalion of crossing guards. Every other block, it seems, has a house of worship of one denomination or another. The Catholic churches, like those of the 1950's, often are associated with a particular ethnic group - Our Lady of Mount Carmel, which has a Polish congregation, is adjacent to St. Michael the Archangel, whose worshipers are Lithuanian. The city's main shopping district is long on mom-and-pop operations, including at least two old-fashioned hardware stores that defy the onslaught of big box stores elsewhere. : : : : : : Still, while it seems well-suited to a mayor described as a throwback to another era, Bayonne has changed a great deal in recent decades. Gone are the thousands of blue-collar jobs that Standard Oil and Texaco once provided along the city's waterfront. Those jobs have not been replaced, but thanks to a light-rail line that offers easy access to Jersey City and the PATH, Bayonne is now attracting commuters who work in financial services and other white-collar jobs. That trend is expected to grow as the city develops the former Military Ocean Terminal, a 430-acre waterfront site on which thousands of new homes will be built in coming years. : : : : : : With just a little less than three years left on his current term as mayor, Mr. Doria will have lots of ribbons to cut as the terminal development moves forward. But he declined to characterize the project as his legacy to his home town. : : : : : : "I don't believe in legacy projects," he said. "I hope everything I do leaves a legacy, from the biggest to the smallest." : BJ, its crock not crook brain surgeon. So every city in the UEZ is distressed? And if distressed equals more state aid then distress me please. And Joe Doria continues to enjoy the support of Bayonne people. On Tuesday Tom Degise received far more votes than Chiappone or Cunningham because of the support of Joe Doria. And the salutations from people throughout the state from both sides of the aisle are equalized by a mysterious poster on a remote message board dominated by the racist rantings of an illiterate newspaper. And I suppose the card board cut out comment is not a personal smear. Hey lady stay on your side of the border and let Bayonne tend to their own affairs. Glad none of those guys you dated decided to bring you to our town. P.S. What kind of nickname is BJ for a lady? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dear Smitty posted Message 2113 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2003 at 20:29:21 Subject: Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo >I really, really think you should read the posts that can be found in the following link: http://www.nj.com/forums/bayonne/ : : >Why the anger & hostility? My, my, one would think this was personal. I take umbrage to a Times article & in a classic HCDO move, we attack personally & convolute. : : The only truth you stated was that I'm not a Bayonne resident. However, my brother has lived & worked there for 25 years. I have friends there for almost 30 years. My father worked there for over 30 years. I worked there for a couple of years & dated a guy or two. Maybe, just maybe mind you, I might know something. : : I am not civil service & am no one's lackey. : : Everybody around the state is wrong but I know what is best for you? What's that supposed to mean? : : You make no sense. : : Bayonne has overwhelmingly supported the Mayor in every election he has been in. The key words here are "has" & "has been". His recent behaviour has more than one person thinking. But people do have short memories. : : It was the racist Mayor of JC who deprived us of our rightful representative in Trenton? : : My dear Snitty, Glenn has not yet gone! I believe he will be sworn in after January. But the extremely racist HCDO did send Mr.(the great white hope) Smith to Trenton as interim senator. A brilliant tactical move, in my opinion. : : I know Broadway is being repaved as we bicker & type. I asked when is was going to be finished. : : Pardon my lack of political correctness, the Peninsula (by any other name would still be the MOTBY). : : We got it 400 acres? Please, if you were educated in Bayonne, don't let anyone know. You'll embarass the school system. : : Of course the UEZ is a great success. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that an item with 3% sales tax is less than an item with 6% sales tax. But UEZ=Distressed. So asking how the shopping areas in JC are makes what point? I shop Broadway at times. You have some wonderful $0.99 stores. : : Every statement I made in my original post was true. But convolute if it makes you feel better. It so detracts that the original issue is lost & therefore you must be right. : : Also note, that with the exception of questioning your education, I have not attacked you personally. : : And if you think Bayonne just loves Mr. Doria may I suggest the following link: : : http://www.nj.com/forums/bayonne/ : : : : Have a good evening. : : : : : : : :::Politics aside, who says Joe "I look like a cardboard cut-out in pictures" Doria has done well by Bayonne? : : : : Empty stores & empty lots on Broadway. Whatever happened to the proposed theater? Bayonne has become old Hobokenish in a way but instead of a bar on every corner it's a $0.99 store or Chinese Take-Out. : : : : Lost a battleship...to Camden? : : : : So when are we finding funds to finish paving Broadway? : : : : Uh, like what are we gonna do with the old MOTBY? : : : : Seems to me that the police need to take remedial driving courses & pee in the cup a little more often than they do now. Oh, & checking to see what their part time jobs are would not necessarily be a bad thing. : : : : And if things were so honky-dory, Bayonne wouldn't have qualified for the 3% sales tax. Can we spell "distressed"? : : : : Maybe, if the back door to Joe's office was nailed shut he would have to stick around & actually listen to the problems people are having. : : : : What a bunch of sour grapes. I have a feeling this poster, BJ, isn't a Bayonneite just a Cunningham lackie from JC. Everybody around the State is wrong but you know what is best for us. Check and you will see the people of Bayonne overwhelmingly support the Mayor in every election he has been in. It was the racist Mayor of JC who deprived us of our rightful representative in Trenton. And FYI, Broadway is being repaved now, its no longer MOTBY its the Peninsula and we got it 400 acres of waterfront property to develop for free thanks to Mayor Doria and Bob Menendez, the UEZ zone has been a great success and btw how are Central, Bergen, Monticello and Newark Avenues doing under your nitwit Mayor. Can you say, see ya in 2005? : : : : : : : : : Like him or not, Joe Doria served his community well. We'll just have to see if his successor will be captive of JC's strong-arming, ego-inflated crew or not. Time will tell. : : : : : : : : : : : New York Times, New Jersey Section : : : : : : November 2, 2003 : : : : : : For Joseph Doria, A Rare Election. He's Not Running. : : : : : : By TERRY GOLWAY : : : : : : Caption: Photos: Joseph V. Doria who lost his speakership and then his Assembly seat, walked away with a reputation as a "legislator's legislator." (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 1); Though no longer in the Legislature, Joseph V. Doria remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city that bears few of the scars that have disfigured much of urban New Jersey. (Photo by Dith Pran/The New York Times)(pg. 8) : : : : : : BAYONNE: JOSEPH V. DORIA JR., the senior member of the state Assembly and keeper of its institutional memory, shifted in his chair when a visitor mentioned the word "tragedy." While certainly overstated, it was the word Mr. Doria's friends and allies chose when describing what happened to him this summer. : : : : : : "I don't know if it was a tragedy," he said. "What is meant to be is meant to be." : : : : : : Push him a little more, however, and Mr. Doria becomes a bit less philosophical. "I believe," he added, "that I got whipsawed." : : : : : : And that, his friends argue, was not meant to be. : : : : : : For the first time in a generation, the name of Joseph V. Doria will not appear on the ballot in Tuesday's state legislative elections. A onetime speaker and leader of the Assembly Democrats during their decade in the minority, Mr. Doria, 57, lost his re-election bid in a Democratic primary in June. : : : : : : Neither ideology nor issues figured much in his demise. He was collateral damage in the bitter and bloody civil war between Mayor Glenn Cunningham of Jersey City and Representative Robert Menendez for a control of that celebrated -- and often notorious -- institution, the Hudson County Democratic Organization. : : : : : : Mr. Doria was part of a three-member slate of regular Democrats that lost to Mr. Cunningham's insurgent team in the party primary. Mr. Doria lost by about 500 votes. First elected to the Assembly in 1979, he will leave office in January, although his career is far from finished. He remains the mayor of Bayonne, a vibrant city of 62,000 that bears few of the scars that have disfigured so much of urban New Jersey. : : : : : : It was in Trenton, however, that Joseph Doria became a player in New Jersey politics. While his name never became particularly well-known outside of his district, Mr. Doria needed no introductions when he walked the State House halls. A husky man with a beard and a doctorate from Columbia Teachers College (in educational leadership), Mr. Doria gained a reputation for his affability as well as his command of issues. Donald Scarinci, a Hudson County attorney who was Mr. Doria's counsel in the speaker's office, described his former boss as "the Sam Rayburn of New Jersey," referring to the legendary Texan who served as House speaker for all but four years from 1940 to 1961. "That's the kind of stature he had," Mr. Scarinci added. "He was a legislator's legislator" : : : : : : Few politicians get to lead a caucus as long as Mr. Doria led the Assembly Democrats - a dozen years. Fewer manage to gain the respect and even affection of the opposition. But Mr. Doria did. "Nobody ever asked Joe Doria for an audience and was denied," said one longtime lobbyist, Alan Marcus. "It didn't matter whether you were a contributor, or a friend, or not. Joe wanted to hear all points of view. He was the most policy-oriented legislator I've ever seen." : : : : : : Alan Steinberg, a former Whitman administration official who was an adviser to Mr. Doria's Republican successor as speaker, Garabed Haytaian, agreed. "In the New Jersey Assembly, Joe was a person of unquestioned decency and boundless compassion," Mr. Steinberg said. "For Republicans, he was a political adversary without being a personal enemy." : : : : : : With his impressive resume (a bachelor's degree in history from St. Peter's College and a master's in American studies from Boston College to go along with his doctorate from Columbia) and his passion for history, Mr. Doria gained a reputation as the house intellectual, if you will, of the Hudson County Democratic organization. And while academicians in politics are not always known for the common touch, as Gov. Woodrow Wilson demonstrated during his years in Trenton, Joseph V. Doria the powerful legislator never stopped being Joe Doria from Bayonne, a man with a cluttered desk, a straightforward manner and an aversion for slick self-promotion. : : : : : : Mr. Doria's legislative accomplishments number in the dozens, from his sponsorship of New Jersey's ban on assault weapons to any number of bills related to his main policy interest - education. : : : : : : "In the Assembly, he was the go-to person on education bills, from pre-K to post-secondary," said John B. Wilson, president of the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in New Jersey. : : : : : : Mr. Marcus, the lobbyist, said he dealt with Mr. Doria on health-care legislation in the early 1990's, and the Assembly leader was able to bring politicians, lobbyists and insurance executives together to hammer out a compromise. : : : : : : That quality, political insiders say, marked Mr. Doria as a throwback to an earlier era in Trenton, when access was not so blatantly tied to campaign finance, and when even the inevitable rough-and-tumble of state politics did not seem so, well, rough. "Joe Doria is an example of days gone by when you were expected to be civil and courteous to those with whom you disagreed," said former Gov. James J. Florio. "He is a commendable model of commitment to substance and to civility in public life. The absence of civility precludes the ability of people to come together." : : : : : : Paradoxically, Mr. Florio said, Mr. Doria was brought down last June by "politics that do not lend themselves to compromise and conciliation." : : : : : : Welcome to Hudson County, where knuckles are bare, tempers short and memories long. : : : : : : Mr. Doria's defeat is a direct result of the chaos, divisions and outright hatreds that make Hudson County politics a spectacle like no other in New Jersey. The Democratic organization's patron saint is the late, longtime mayor of Jersey City, Frank Hague, one of the most formidable bosses in American history and author of the deathless phrase, "I am the law." : : : : : : Often, the mayor of Jersey City is the party's most powerful figure. But in 1993, something highly unusual took place there. Bret Shundler, a Republican, was elected mayor of Jersey City. Suddenly, there was no Democratic mayor in the county's largest city to claim first dibs on patronage, contracts and other spoils. Into the void stepped the Hudson County executive, Robert Janiszewski, who took over the organization and imposed order and discipline. Much of the time, however, Mr. Janiszewski was taking bribes, as he has admitted in court. When the escapades of Mr. Janiszewski caught the attention of federal investigators, he was persuaded to tape his conversations while conducting his transactions. Once that came to light, beads of sweat began forming on the brows of political insiders on and off the public payroll. The Democratic organization of Hudson County plunged into disarray. : : : : : : Mr. Menendez, a congressman with enormous influence in Washington, is based in Union City in Hudson County, and he cultivated his own alliances within the organization. But when Mr. Shundler relinquished the mayoralty of Jersey City to mount an unsuccessful campaign for governor in 2001, precedent returned to the city and a Democrat, Glenn Cunningham, was elected to City Hall. Mr. Cunningham sought to re-establish the primacy that other Democratic mayors of Jersey City enjoyed over the county organization, but he found Mr. Menendez in his way. : : : : : : The result was last spring's vicious battle in the 31st legislative district. Mr. Cunningham ran for state Senate (not an uncommon phenomenon in New Jersey politics), and Anthony Chiappone and Louis Manzo joined him as Assembly candidates. Mr. Doria ran on a slate with L. Harvey Smith as the Senate candidate and Elba Perez-Cinciarelli as the other Assembly candidate. The battle lines were drawn; political insiders watched as Mr. Cunningham tested his political muscle against candidates considered to be aligned with Mr. Menendez and his ally, State Senator Bernard Kenny, the Hudson County Democratic chairman. : : : : : : "It was a case where you had two very strong forces that were inalterably opposed to each other," Mr. Doria said. Mr. Cunningham's strength in Jersey City, which makes up about 60 percent of the district, was too much for Mr. Doria and his running mates to overcome. All three were defeated. : : : : : : More than the loss itself, it was the reason behind Mr. Doria's downfall that infuriated his allies and surprised agnostic onlookers. Rarely are senior legislators sacrificed so casually in a political blood feud. To Mr. Marcus, Mr. Doria was "a victim of what politics in New Jersey has become - we don't care about policy. We only care about politics." : : : : : : The battle continued to simmer even into late October in the form of a lawsuit filed on behalf of Mr. Doria and his running mates. The suit, widely expected to fail, charged the Cunningham slate with several electoral irregularities, which is why Mr. Menendez remained unwilling to concede that Mr. Doria's legislative career was over. But if it came to that, he said, "New Jersey will be worse off." : : : : : : The congressman made it plain that Mr. Doria's unexpected loss has done nothing to ease the bitterness in Hudson County. "It is not unusual to have tough primaries," Mr. Menendez said. "But none of them have ever been of the nature that this one took." : : : : : : As Mr. Menendez put it, the "lack of any rules of engagement by one side" was unprecedented, "even in my 30 years of public life in Hudson County." : : : : : : Reiterating charges that the Cunningham team violated state campaign finance regulations, the congressman said: "You ultimately say to yourself, 'Is the right person on the ballot?' One side played according to the rules of the game and the other did not." : : : : : : Mayor Cunningham, who figures to win his Senate race on Tuesday, had some kind words for Mr. Doria, though none for Mr. Menendez. : : : : : : "Joe served the people of Bayonne and Jersey City honorably," Mr. Cunningham said. "I'm just disappointed that he hasn't accepted the will of the people" -- a reference to the lingering litigation over last spring's primary. Of Mr. Menendez, with whom he once had a warmer relationship, the mayor said: "He needs to concentrate on being a congressman and stop being the new Frank Hague. The congressman is Goliath in Hudson County. I'm David. And Goliath doesn't think David should have a slingshot." : : : : : : Mr. Doria's defeat came less than two years after he lost a chance to resume his place as speaker after the Democrats recaptured the Assembly in 2001. But Governor McGreevey, whom Mr. Doria had opposed during his primary campaign in 1996, instead chose Alberto Sires of Union County, an obscure one-term legislator, as the compromise candidate to be the new speaker. This headed off what could have been an acrimonious revolt against Mr. Doria's leadership from Assemblyman Joseph Roberts of Camden County. : : : : : : Mr. Roberts, an ally of the pre-emininent Democratic power broker of South Jersey, George Norcross III, had been feuding with Mr. Doria over the number of appointments handed out to South Jersey Democrats. This was precisely the kind of headache the new governor did not want, so Mr. Sires emerged as the alternative to outright war. : : : : : : After leading the Democrats through the wilderness of minority party status for a decade, a "disappointed" Mr. Doria went along with the young governor's wishes. "You can't always get what you want," he said. "Didn't somebody write a song about that?" : : : : : : Friends say Mr. Doria's conspicuous lack of bitterness, at least in public, is just another part of what made him stand out as a leader and a legislator. The Rev. James Loughran, president of St. Peter's College in Jersey City, where Mr. Doria worked as an administrator during most of his time in the Assembly, described him as "uncomplaining." : : : : : : "He took the Sires appointment in stride," Father Loughran said, "and he is taking this latest event in stride." : : : : : : Perhaps that is because he still has a job, unlike many politicians who lose re-election bids. Being mayor of Bayonne is a good deal more than a consolation prize for Mr. Doria, who can continue to preside over the city of his birth, and a city in which he and his wife, Maribeth, are raising their daughter, Margaret Mary. With its low-density housing stock, most of it one- and two-family homes, and its thriving commercial strip on Broadway, Bayonne is "the kind of place that reminds people of what Hudson County used to be," said Mr. Scarinci. "It's a place out of time." : : : : : : That image is hard to shake as you walk its tidy streets, patrolled by an endless battalion of crossing guards. Every other block, it seems, has a house of worship of one denomination or another. The Catholic churches, like those of the 1950's, often are associated with a particular ethnic group - Our Lady of Mount Carmel, which has a Polish congregation, is adjacent to St. Michael the Archangel, whose worshipers are Lithuanian. The city's main shopping district is long on mom-and-pop operations, including at least two old-fashioned hardware stores that defy the onslaught of big box stores elsewhere. : : : : : : Still, while it seems well-suited to a mayor described as a throwback to another era, Bayonne has changed a great deal in recent decades. Gone are the thousands of blue-collar jobs that Standard Oil and Texaco once provided along the city's waterfront. Those jobs have not been replaced, but thanks to a light-rail line that offers easy access to Jersey City and the PATH, Bayonne is now attracting commuters who work in financial services and other white-collar jobs. That trend is expected to grow as the city develops the former Military Ocean Terminal, a 430-acre waterfront site on which thousands of new homes will be built in coming years. : : : : : : With just a little less than three years left on his current term as mayor, Mr. Doria will have lots of ribbons to cut as the terminal development moves forward. But he declined to characterize the project as his legacy to his home town. : : : : : : "I don't believe in legacy projects," he said. "I hope everything I do leaves a legacy, from the biggest to the smallest." : BJ, its crock not crook brain surgeon. So every city in the UEZ is distressed? And if distressed equals more state aid then distress me please. And Joe Doria continues to enjoy the support of Bayonne people. On Tuesday Tom Degise received far more votes than Chiappone or Cunningham because of the support of Joe Doria. And the salutations from people throughout the state from both sides of the aisle are equalized by a mysterious poster on a remote message board dominated by the racist rantings of an illiterate newspaper. And I suppose the card board cut out comment is not a personal smear. Hey lady stay on your side of the border and let Bayonne tend to their own affairs. Glad none of those guys you dated decided to bring you to our town. P.S. What kind of nickname is BJ for a lady? ***************** End Of Article ****************** zorro posted Message 2114 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 02:05:51 Subject: black and white I heard some rumors about Stack and Cunigham being in bed together. Stack is going to run against menendez next year with the backing of cunigham, Manzo and Sacco. Can anyone confirm? ***************** End Of Article ****************** After Hours posted Message 2115 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 10:07:56 Subject: Re: black and white Wrong...Stack and Menendez are tight. Cunningham is in bed with .... and it's not his wife. LMAO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gerry McCann't posted Message 2116 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 11:17:50 Subject: LMAO http://www.geocities.com/njpolice1/Jerry.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2117 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 11:29:46 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gerry McCann't posted Message 2118 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 13:22:40 Subject: Now this is funny.... http://www.geocities.com/njpolice1/Jerry.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 2119 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 13:54:25 Subject: Re: Now this is funny.... Now that IS funny : http://www.geocities.com/njpolice1/Jerry.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2120 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 14:07:17 Subject: Solitary Links Not Allowed! Messages must be just that! Posts must consist of a statement or a reply to a statement. A Link can be included as a citation or a reference to further information. A Link not accompanied by information will be deleted! Post it again and the URL from then on will be allowed only by permission. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gerry McCann't posted Message 2121 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 18:10:45 Subject: Boo-Hoo Will Gerry McCann ever get it. We don't want you as an elected official. You lost for Committeeman You lost for Freeholder and this is what we think of you running for Mayor. Go find a job in the private sector. http://www.geocities.com/njpolice1/Jerry.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** Danger Look out for falling real estate values posted Message 2122 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 20:35:07 Subject: Enough of unimportant things what about jobs and growth? Jersey City is two years away from a death sentence once the shift in the financial services industry moves towards Florida. Rather than waste peoples time with brain dead politicians the people should organize to protect the growth that has increased the quality of life. DTC is moving to Florida and that will dramatically change the value of Jersey City real estate. Basically a major part of Wall Street is moving the part that rents the office buildings and pays the salaries of the people working in Jersey City. Do something before it is to late you have been warned this a public service. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJEA posted Message 2123 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 21:47:57 Subject: NJEA MADE A BUBU NJEA sent a flier to all their members in the 33rd district portraying albio sires as a black guy and brian stack as hispanic. Where they laughing at these candidates when they endorsed them with this mailing or they got confused with the pictures? check the flyer at politicsnj ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2124 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 23:11:41 Subject: Re: NJEA MADE A BUBU And isn't that State Senator Richard Codey, not Bernard Kenny? Maybe whoever composed the NJEA piece needs to take an exam -- an eye examination! : NJEA sent a flier to all their members in the 33rd district portraying albio sires as a black guy and brian stack as hispanic. Where they laughing at these candidates when they endorsed them with this mailing or they got confused with the pictures? : check the flyer at politicsnj ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here is the link posted Message 2125 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 23:53:59 Subject: Re: Boo-Hoo : Will Gerry McCann ever get it. : We don't want you as an elected official. : You lost for Committeeman : You lost for Freeholder : and this is what we think of you running for Mayor. : Go find a job in the private sector. : : http://www.geocities.com/njpolice1/Jerry.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2126 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2003 at 23:59:28 Subject: First Out of the Starting Gate Obviously, though first out of the starting gate, the McCann for Freeholder campaign never got its second wind. Was the jockey too heavy? Did the horse not get enough oats? I don't know. But, look how each did in the race: In first place was the County candidate, Radames Velazquez, who got around 2,918 votes. With about 1,249 votes, former Jersey City Mayor Gerald McCann was second. Republican Carl Czaplicki came in third with approximately 719 votes. Out of the money was Anthony Cruz; he only got some 478 or so votes. Of course, the HCDOers are playing the Cruz collapse as a defeat for Mayor Cunningham. As Cunningham's endorsement seems to have been confined to the courtesy of a firm and friendly handshake, it seems something of a reach to try pinning this loss on Glenn. But the question remains, what caused the Cruz campaign to falter? Cruz has been around for quite a spell (in 1997, ran for theWard E Council seat on the Jerry Healy ticket). Cruz's brother sliced and diced text for the local weekly -- around 4 years back, it's true. The point being, Cruz should have had some name recognition. As a Deputy Mayor, Cruz gets to bounce around town as a high-profile (albeit local) VIP. Also, he had a crew of high-morale volunteers and at least enough money for lots of signs. Brings to mind Eliu Rivera. Eliu is a personable guy and, as the head of PACO, is in charge of all sorts of good things. Yet, either with Schundler or Cunningham, Eliu seemed unable to kindle more than a scant handful of votes. Clearly, large portions of the Jersey City Hispanic community continue to vote according to the HCDO five o'clock cards. And don't forget, Juanita Lopez got maybe 101 votes. As far as I could see, her campaign consisted of two hand-drawn and -lettered signs (one on poster-paper and the other on cardboard). ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Trend is Already Underway posted Message 2127 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2003 at 10:55:27 Subject: Re: What about jobs and growth? A drive down Federal Highway or Glades Road in Boca Raton, or a cruise along Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard in West Palm Beach will show that the trend financial corporate relocations has already taken hold. Electronic Communications Networks, over which most financial transactions take place, have made location less important than advertising. So just as financial corporations flocked to JC a decade ago to escape the high rents and corporatre taxes of lower Manhattan, they will flea the waterfront of JC as the many attractions of the Sunshine State become more apparent. The lack of personal income taxes, lower rents, better business atmosphere, cheaper housing, and obvious warm-weather amenities are beginning to become too alluring to ignore. Just as the 90s saw a flood of relocations culminating after the WTC disaster, this decade will see the abandonment of JC for the better managed communities or South Florida which welcome corporate neighbors with open arms, not by asking them to open their wallets. : Jersey City is two years away from a death sentence once the shift in the financial services industry moves towards Florida. Rather than waste peoples time with brain dead politicians the people should organize to protect the growth that has increased the quality of life. DTC is moving to Florida and that will dramatically change the value of Jersey City real estate. Basically a major part of Wall Street is moving the part that rents the office buildings and pays the salaries of the people working in Jersey City. Do something before it is to late you have been warned this a public service. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2128 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2003 at 11:11:52 Subject: Yet Another Reason to Move to FLA? Senator Katherine Harris? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Trend is Already Underway posted Message 2129 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2003 at 11:19:39 Subject: Re: Yet Another Reason to Move to FLA? No one here advocates the trend that has begun. But there are obvious reasons that should be explored and responded to now, rather than bemoning the fate of empty towers on JC's waterfront 10 years from now after lower Manhattan has been rebuilt, and JC and NJ taxes have driven corporations and jobs from our shores. And Katherin Harris has nothing to do with this issue other than the fact that she is too ignorant to work in most of the companies that will relocate. : Senator Katherine Harris? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2130 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2003 at 10:24:10 Subject: Who'll Run For Mayor In Jersey City In 2005? Who'll Run For Mayor In Jersey City In 2005? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2131 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2003 at 16:07:53 Subject: DARK SHADOWS! From the membership list of the Hoboken Board of Trade of 1907: J. F. O'Mealia, 61 Newark St., Pres. Hoboken Bill Posting Co. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Big Gipper #42 posted Message 2132 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2003 at 09:01:54 Subject: State of Politics in Hudson County Has everyone in Hudson County excepted that all of the politicans are corrupt. I saw a recent copy of the Hudson Reporter, and they have a photo of, currently indicted Ex-Mayor of Hoboken Anthony Russo, beaming that his son won his Council seat. Not a mention on the cover of the Hudson Reporter that he's currently under indictment. What happened to the 4th Estate being unbiased and fair. How can they be when our Congressman Robert Menedez , who has some sort of relationship with Kay LiCausi, klstrategies.com, is representing every major Developer on the Waterfront. Look at her website, one page, not even a hint a legitamacy. No one answers the Office phone. Hudson County on a whole needs a revolution, there needs to be systemic change throughout the whole system. There is so much wasted money, and time, that could be better handled and managed to no avail. But the citizens of Hudson just keep excepting it, and let it roll along. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO posted Message 2133 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2003 at 11:29:47 Subject: Re: State of Politics in Hudson County Gee who is this Sandy or Glenn. Better fix that AOL profile next time you post without using your name. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Newportlady posted Message 2134 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2003 at 11:32:21 Subject: Interesting letter to the Editor Gavina brothers weren't attacked Tuesday, November 11, 2003 Letters to the Editor The Jersey Journal Like many people, I too was shocked and outraged by the verdict in the murder trial of Police Officer Domenick Infantes. The devastation and disappointment of this verdict will be felt for a long time. The Infantes family has suffered the worst loss imaginable. Their pain and suffering was compounded by having to sit and listen while their loved one was ripped apart in court, almost blamed for causing his own death. For over two years now I have read many inaccurate stories about the night of July 4. I have tried to have them corrected, but without success. As a matter of fact, to this day, no reporter from The Jersey Journal has ever contacted or interviewed any of the people that were there on July 4. Unfortunately, a lot of people did not know Dom. They only know what they read in the paper. It was very upsetting to read the defense's version of events almost word for word printed in the paper. Their lies are outrageous and hurtful, and are totally without any proof or evidence. They even went so far as to accuse Brian Belka of criminal acts and blame him for the entire incident. That was printed. From Our Advertiser That is why I felt compelled to write this letter and explain what really happened. I was there that night. I was with Brian Belka as he left the party, each one of us carrying one of our children. Firecrackers were thrown by the Gavina children onto our my parents' driveway as we were getting into our car. Our children were only 1 and 4 at the time, and the loud noise of a pack of firecrackers going off so close to them was terrifying. They were screaming hysterically and could not calm down enough to even get them in their car seats. Brian yelled at the Gavina children, as anyone would have. Their behavior was careless, dangerous, inconsiderate and illegal. Benjamin Gavina came out of his garage and he and Brian began to yell back and forth at one another. Then I saw another man run out of the garage and over to his car. I saw the trunk open and I immediately started screaming because I was afraid that he was getting a gun from the trunk. I screamed to Brian about the trunk. Within seconds the Gavina brothers were each holding 4-foot metal pipes in their hands. I was afraid that they were going to kill us or hit our car, (my children were in the car still screaming). I was screaming and pleading with them that this was crazy and to just let us leave. Just then Dom came out of our (my parents') yard. He must have heard me yelling. Dom immediately identified himself as a police officer and held up his badge. He asked everyone to calm down. He told Brian to leave. Other people from our party were also outside now and they stayed with Brian over by our car. Dom told the Gavinas to put down the pipes. They refused and began to yell at Dom to show them his gun to prove he was a police officer and started yelling things about cops. Dom told me to "Call 911, tell them officer needs assistance." My father was standing there also, so he ran in and called 911. The Gavinas were still holding the pipes, refusing to put them down or go inside. The police were on their way. Brian and I decided to leave. We were getting into the car when we heard a commotion. As I turned I saw the pipes raised like baseball bats and I saw Dom lying on the ground. Brian had also seen this and ran over to the fence because one of the Gavinas was holding the pipe up, getting ready to hit again. Brian grabbed the guy from our side of the fence and Brian got hit in the head with a pipe. The fence collapsed and Brian, Alfredo Gavina, and the pipe landed in the grass where I was standing. I looked down and Brian's head was split completely open. Just then, the police arrived and then the Gavinas began to fight with them. There was no self-defense needed because the Gavinas were never attacked. Brian and Dom were never there together. There were no injuries, marks or bruises on either of the Gavinas. What the Gavinas did have on them were weapons, which they took out immediately when it was only me and Brian. There were no bruises because there was no attack. Their lies were created because there was no other way to explain their vicious, brutal attack and blatant disrespect and disregard for the law. God bless Dom. TINA BELKA Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2135 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2003 at 12:46:17 Subject: Re: Interesting letter to the Editor Is there a law concerning causing the death of a police officer? If there isn't, there certainly should be. To my mind, anyone responsible for the death of a police officer (and I don't care if it's a heart attack, tripping and hitting the sidewalk, or what have you) should be guaranteed a very long time in jail -- longer than ten years. : : : Gavina brothers weren't attacked : Tuesday, November 11, 2003 : : Letters to the Editor : The Jersey Journal : Like many people, I too was shocked and outraged by the verdict in the murder trial of Police Officer Domenick Infantes. The devastation and disappointment of this verdict will be felt for a long time. The Infantes family has suffered the worst loss imaginable. Their pain and suffering was compounded by having to sit and listen while their loved one was ripped apart in court, almost blamed for causing his own death. : For over two years now I have read many inaccurate stories about the night of July 4. I have tried to have them corrected, but without success. As a matter of fact, to this day, no reporter from The Jersey Journal has ever contacted or interviewed any of the people that were there on July 4. Unfortunately, a lot of people did not know Dom. They only know what they read in the paper. It was very upsetting to read the defense's version of events almost word for word printed in the paper. Their lies are outrageous and hurtful, and are totally without any proof or evidence. They even went so far as to accuse Brian Belka of criminal acts and blame him for the entire incident. That was printed. : : From Our Advertiser : : : : That is why I felt compelled to write this letter and explain what really happened. I was there that night. I was with Brian Belka as he left the party, each one of us carrying one of our children. Firecrackers were thrown by the Gavina children onto our my parents' driveway as we were getting into our car. Our children were only 1 and 4 at the time, and the loud noise of a pack of firecrackers going off so close to them was terrifying. They were screaming hysterically and could not calm down enough to even get them in their car seats. Brian yelled at the Gavina children, as anyone would have. Their behavior was careless, dangerous, inconsiderate and illegal. Benjamin Gavina came out of his garage and he and Brian began to yell back and forth at one another. Then I saw another man run out of the garage and over to his car. I saw the trunk open and I immediately started screaming because I was afraid that he was getting a gun from the trunk. I screamed to Brian about the trunk. Within seconds the Gavina brothers were each holding 4-foot metal pipes in their hands. I was afraid that they were going to kill us or hit our car, (my children were in the car still screaming). I was screaming and pleading with them that this was crazy and to just let us leave. : Just then Dom came out of our (my parents') yard. He must have heard me yelling. Dom immediately identified himself as a police officer and held up his badge. He asked everyone to calm down. He told Brian to leave. Other people from our party were also outside now and they stayed with Brian over by our car. Dom told the Gavinas to put down the pipes. They refused and began to yell at Dom to show them his gun to prove he was a police officer and started yelling things about cops. Dom told me to "Call 911, tell them officer needs assistance." My father was standing there also, so he ran in and called 911. The Gavinas were still holding the pipes, refusing to put them down or go inside. : The police were on their way. Brian and I decided to leave. We were getting into the car when we heard a commotion. As I turned I saw the pipes raised like baseball bats and I saw Dom lying on the ground. Brian had also seen this and ran over to the fence because one of the Gavinas was holding the pipe up, getting ready to hit again. Brian grabbed the guy from our side of the fence and Brian got hit in the head with a pipe. The fence collapsed and Brian, Alfredo Gavina, and the pipe landed in the grass where I was standing. I looked down and Brian's head was split completely open. Just then, the police arrived and then the Gavinas began to fight with them. : There was no self-defense needed because the Gavinas were never attacked. Brian and Dom were never there together. There were no injuries, marks or bruises on either of the Gavinas. What the Gavinas did have on them were weapons, which they took out immediately when it was only me and Brian. There were no bruises because there was no attack. Their lies were created because there was no other way to explain their vicious, brutal attack and blatant disrespect and disregard for the law. : God bless Dom. TINA BELKA Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Never Again posted Message 2136 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2003 at 12:52:56 Subject: Candlelight Vigil for P.O. Domenick J. Infantes Candlelight Vigil for P.O. Domenick J. Infantes This FRIDAY 11/14/03 7:00P.M. Hamilton Park 8th st and Jersey Ave (Across from St. Francis Hospital) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Puccini's: Thursday, November 13, 2003 posted Message 2137 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2003 at 16:29:39 Subject: Steve Lipski FunRaiser Steve Lipski is holding a FunRaiser at Puccini's (1064 Westside Ave., Jersey City) this Thursday, November 13, 2003 from 6PM to 9PM. Tickets are available at the door for $125. Be there and raise a lot of FUN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. Kite posted Message 2138 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2003 at 19:30:26 Subject: Re: Steve Lipski FunRaiser : Steve Lipski is holding a FunRaiser at Puccini's (1064 Westside Ave., Jersey City) this Thursday, November 13, 2003 from 6PM to 9PM. : Tickets are available at the door for $125. : Be there and raise a lot of FUN! Wow I can't wait to go! Entertainment provided by that human chameleon Lipski. Olga Korbet will be there to do Flips. There will be a Flip Wilson impersonator of course. Bring the kids as Steve promises to play bumper cars with them after a couple of brews. So remember to leave your backbone and conscience at the door and have a great time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Offshore no taxes at all posted Message 2139 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 07:24:20 Subject: Re: Yet Another Reason to Move to FLA? The trend is ultimately offshore it is easier to go to the Bahamas or Bermuda from Florida. Freeport is a 30 minute flight. : No one here advocates the trend that has begun. But there are obvious reasons that should be explored and responded to now, rather than bemoning the fate of empty towers on JC's waterfront 10 years from now after lower Manhattan has been rebuilt, and JC and NJ taxes have driven corporations and jobs from our shores. And Katherin Harris has nothing to do with this issue other than the fact that she is too ignorant to work in most of the companies that will relocate. : : Senator Katherine Harris? ***************** End Of Article ****************** To Stupid to be Mayor, Senator or Govenor posted Message 2140 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 07:38:22 Subject: Cunningham is insulated in the ignorance of racism Firstly Cunningham is a racist of the first order. As that tends to remove all reason his ability to lead is impaired. Try if you will to suggest anything that gets a fair hearing. The current Mayor lives in a prison of racism that does not allow the open flow of ideas and solutions for the good of the people. While he maybe untouched as far as graft he is as dumb as a stone. The Mayors advisors are those that have mastered the skill of blowing smoke in a direction not mentioned. Mayor Cunningham live up to your promise your victories are not mandates for racist activity it is not one races moment in the sun it is the people of the city. Please remove your prejudice against Whites. Anti-White behavior is not allowed. The city has suffered due to lack of education in the area of technology and the ability to streamline and modernize the structure of government to better serve the people ALL THE PEOPLE. The logic of racism is flawed and will create a situation you cannot live with. Essentially just because you are the Mayor does no make you or your staff know everything in fact the world is large and filled with things we do not know please act accordingly. A good case in point is the removal of DTC from New York City if you had half a brain or anyone on your staff did they might see the ramifications of that event. Since your office does not respond to anyone outside your office you are in a prison of ingnorance strongly supported by your racist views. As you are aware I did make the choice to be whatever I'am neither did you so stop all this or suffer defeat in the political arena. Having lived and worked in South Africa I can tell you first hand racism of any form will destroy not build a society. Let the love God made in your heart flow stop the ignorance and let the ideas and solutions flow. The first step is the removal of Ayala he is controlling access and removing the right solutions from the table get someone that has an education and can listen not dictate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why Can't We All Get Along? posted Message 2141 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 07:48:54 Subject: Poor Management due to a closed mind Ayala thinks he knows it all he is the master of the universe. The reality is the man is a dunce, a dullard, and generally unfit to walk dogs. Yet the mayor (Mayor Cunningham) continues to listen to this long haul truck driver on matters that are complex and require some area of expertise. If I want a good delivery on a carton I'll call Ayala but he should not be making policy in the arbitary manner he does. This is a Western Society where critical thinking is required not some third world nation where those with the power rule regardless of their ability to make informed choices. It is after all the government by the PEOPLE for the PEOPLE and should serve the PEOPLE. While HCDO was designed to steal funds from the public the current mayor's adminstration is designed to statisfy some closed idea of a moment in the sun. Ward F should be better served the dreams of a Mayor for all the people must be realized. Stop Cunningham unless he changes his ways. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Computers are tools that require education posted Message 2142 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 07:54:06 Subject: Jersey City Government must enter the new century Jersey City lives in an age gone by at least two centuries ago. Those that rule the City have no idea of the importance of the computer age and have failed to understand the significance of this paradigm shift. There are no efforts to streamline the cost of delivery rendering the vital services of fire and police lacking. Billing is a nightmare, procurement is a nighmare, and the minds that rule are in the dark ages. Cunningham wake up you are not going to make it unless you see the parade grab a baton and lead. Mayor Cunningham stop being the stoog your advisors would have you be for their purposes. The information age is here and it is real. Jersey City must become a leader in this area or suffer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Horse and buggy posted Message 2143 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 07:56:59 Subject: Mayor wants a new ride The mayor needs a new ride I suggest a horse and buggy it would compliment is mind set. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nerds for a better Jersey City posted Message 2144 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 08:02:14 Subject: Computers run on electricty not Political Greed Keeping it simple is the answer the Mayor's anti-modern mode of doing things is anti-computer. If the Mayor uses email I would be amazed. The question is can someone replace the idiots that run the city by using computers to raise funds and contact people to vote against them. I suggest ***************** End Of Article ****************** asbury park press posted Message 2145 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 08:10:40 Subject: Re: GLENN CUNNINGHAM FOR GOVENOR : RECALL MCGREEVEY AND ELECT GLENN CUNNIGHAM GOVENOR OF NEW JERSEY ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 2146 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 09:06:43 Subject: WHITLOCK CORDAGE KEEPS GETTING BETTER-FOR DEVELOPER Urban Times News ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer , Urban Times News posted Message 2147 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 09:15:14 Subject: BOND REFI-CLOCKS RUNNING, TEMPERS FLARING, RATES RISING sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 2148 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 09:28:36 Subject: FOUNDATION OFFERS FREE HEALTH SERVICES TO COMMUNITY UTN NEWS ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2149 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 10:18:50 Subject: NJN Video: Manzo, McCann Comment On State Chromium Settlement To view the NJN News Video, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ayala is a bonehead posted Message 2150 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 15:16:18 Subject: Re: BOND REFI-CLOCKS RUNNING, TEMPERS FLARING, RATES RISING Maybe the long haul truck driver can figure a route out of the trouble he has created for the people of Jersey City. Maybe the Mayor will throw him out on his ear. : sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Holding My Breath (and my Nose) posted Message 2151 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 16:06:49 Subject: Re: BOND REFI-CLOCKS RUNNING, TEMPERS FLARING, RATES RISING That's what happens when you got a Mayor stupid enough to send in a boy to do a MAN's job. Bill Ayala is the most inept, talentless Chief of Staff to ever draw a paycheck from taxes paid by hard-working Jersey City residents. He is an uneducated, greedy, self-important, gruff egomaniac. But then look around GDC and what do you find? A bunch worse than hacks....they're a bunch of DUMBASS hacks. No talent, no foresight, no insight, just dumb and blind as mice. Not one of them has the guts to tell the King He Has No Clothes. And this is who we send to Trenton? Lord help us all. It would be a glimmer of hope if Glen tells the truck driver to grease up and hit the road. But lets not hold our breath. Afterall, Billy will just go crying to Sandy to protect him.....again. : Maybe the long haul truck driver can figure a route out of the trouble he has created for the people of Jersey City. Maybe the Mayor will throw him out on his ear. : : : sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Peepers posted Message 2152 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 16:32:34 Subject: But, if But if the coach for the winner is an knucklehead then what do you have to say about the coach for the losers? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The meaning behind the verdict is...... posted Message 2153 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 18:01:36 Subject: Re: Interesting letter to the Editor That his life meant nothing.That cops are bad and skin color is everything! : : : : : : Gavina brothers weren't attacked : : : Tuesday, November 11, 2003 : : : : Letters to the Editor : : The Jersey Journal : : Like many people, I too was shocked and outraged by the verdict in the murder trial of Police Officer Domenick Infantes. The devastation and disappointment of this verdict will be felt for a long time. The Infantes family has suffered the worst loss imaginable. Their pain and suffering was compounded by having to sit and listen while their loved one was ripped apart in court, almost blamed for causing his own death. : : For over two years now I have read many inaccurate stories about the night of July 4. I have tried to have them corrected, but without success. As a matter of fact, to this day, no reporter from The Jersey Journal has ever contacted or interviewed any of the people that were there on July 4. Unfortunately, a lot of people did not know Dom. They only know what they read in the paper. It was very upsetting to read the defense's version of events almost word for word printed in the paper. Their lies are outrageous and hurtful, and are totally without any proof or evidence. They even went so far as to accuse Brian Belka of criminal acts and blame him for the entire incident. That was printed. : : : : From Our Advertiser : : : : : : : : That is why I felt compelled to write this letter and explain what really happened. I was there that night. I was with Brian Belka as he left the party, each one of us carrying one of our children. Firecrackers were thrown by the Gavina children onto our my parents' driveway as we were getting into our car. Our children were only 1 and 4 at the time, and the loud noise of a pack of firecrackers going off so close to them was terrifying. They were screaming hysterically and could not calm down enough to even get them in their car seats. Brian yelled at the Gavina children, as anyone would have. Their behavior was careless, dangerous, inconsiderate and illegal. Benjamin Gavina came out of his garage and he and Brian began to yell back and forth at one another. Then I saw another man run out of the garage and over to his car. I saw the trunk open and I immediately started screaming because I was afraid that he was getting a gun from the trunk. I screamed to Brian about the trunk. Within seconds the Gavina brothers were each holding 4-foot metal pipes in their hands. I was afraid that they were going to kill us or hit our car, (my children were in the car still screaming). I was screaming and pleading with them that this was crazy and to just let us leave. : : Just then Dom came out of our (my parents') yard. He must have heard me yelling. Dom immediately identified himself as a police officer and held up his badge. He asked everyone to calm down. He told Brian to leave. Other people from our party were also outside now and they stayed with Brian over by our car. Dom told the Gavinas to put down the pipes. They refused and began to yell at Dom to show them his gun to prove he was a police officer and started yelling things about cops. Dom told me to "Call 911, tell them officer needs assistance." My father was standing there also, so he ran in and called 911. The Gavinas were still holding the pipes, refusing to put them down or go inside. : : The police were on their way. Brian and I decided to leave. We were getting into the car when we heard a commotion. As I turned I saw the pipes raised like baseball bats and I saw Dom lying on the ground. Brian had also seen this and ran over to the fence because one of the Gavinas was holding the pipe up, getting ready to hit again. Brian grabbed the guy from our side of the fence and Brian got hit in the head with a pipe. The fence collapsed and Brian, Alfredo Gavina, and the pipe landed in the grass where I was standing. I looked down and Brian's head was split completely open. Just then, the police arrived and then the Gavinas began to fight with them. : : There was no self-defense needed because the Gavinas were never attacked. Brian and Dom were never there together. There were no injuries, marks or bruises on either of the Gavinas. What the Gavinas did have on them were weapons, which they took out immediately when it was only me and Brian. There were no bruises because there was no attack. Their lies were created because there was no other way to explain their vicious, brutal attack and blatant disrespect and disregard for the law. : : God bless Dom. TINA BELKA Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Holdin my Breath posted Message 2154 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 21:37:45 Subject: Re: But, if : But if the coach for the winner is an knucklehead then what do you have to say about the coach for the losers? Nothing much to say for them either. That's the problem...a fundamental lack of talent all around. And more than sufficient greed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2155 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 22:00:49 Subject: STEEL CAGE DEATHMATCH Perhaps we can throw Ayala, McGee and Sengco into the ring and see who comes out alive. I'm betting on Sengco. She's as tough as they come. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2156 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2003 at 22:04:23 Subject: NEVER FEAR !!! Martin Jackson will solve all the City's computer problems. Once he has finished delivering his newspapers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ayala is really dumb posted Message 2157 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 14, 2003 at 00:33:20 Subject: Cunningham is an idiot for listening to Ayala Well we stand at the edge of a new world but in the wake of the old one stands the ignorant Mayor Glenn Cunningham. I am somebody. I am somebody he rants on, but Mr. Mayor not for long you trusted the fool Ayala and allowed him to no refinance the bond issue and stiff the first advisor too bad. As you may not be aware interest rates have gone up a couple of basis points while Ayala figures his own angle the city lost $25 million dollars. So you have not raised the taxes but rather through Ayala have added $25 million in debt almost the same thing. Now Glenn we love yah but Ayala must go he is a fool and your are being made one rapidly drop the truck driver and hire a qualified admin Ayala may have cost you the election for Senate and Mayor. Before Ayala made the bonehead move of stiffing the advisor you could have been Govenor if you wished now you will be lucky enough to hang on to a City job as Dog Catcher. So damage control is the name of the game forget about Ayala he has already cost you the Govenors spot why throw the Senate and the Mayor's office in as well. Refinance, fire Ayala, and run for Govenor. If you fail to do any and all of these suggestions you are finished over with Caputo Stupido. Glenn if I where you I'd get my head screwed on straight and knock off all the bull with Ayala he is a fool. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Beet me whip me make me not refinance and defease posted Message 2158 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 14, 2003 at 00:38:49 Subject: Ayala's $25 million dollar mistake Since Enron and Tyco stupid people just do not have enough fun spending other peoples money wait then there was Ayala he got to waste $25 million just because well we do not know yet but think about it could he be playing the market speculating on bonds maybe a little bird well actually a Vulture tells me if the City Defaults Ayala stands to make some money somewhere. Oh my lord how can that be someone entrusted with the publics welfare speculating and manipulating their trust for their own enrichment say it is not so. Well it could have only been done by violating Glenn's trust. If Glenn soes not clean house he will be finished. Act now before it is too late Glenn your a good guy with a bad man advising you Ayala has speculated and manipulated a good deal to bad drop the bum. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Question of the day posted Message 2159 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 14, 2003 at 00:49:13 Subject: Why if jobless claims are going up Why if jobless claims are going up there are not more job at the unemployment agencies? I think its a plot since the unemployment agencies are not hiring the claims are inflated. Perhaps we have discovered the source for weapons of mass destruction they are all being placed in unemployment offices and the jobless claims mask this. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rumsfeld Promises not to Pull out early in Iraq posted Message 2160 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 14, 2003 at 00:50:41 Subject: Iraqi women are over joyed at the news a little laugh ***************** End Of Article ****************** Iraqi Taxi Driver in Jersey City posted Message 2161 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 14, 2003 at 00:54:52 Subject: We will be happy to drive where you do not want to go The other evening after getting off the train at Grove St Station I grabbed a cab guess what the driver was from Iraq. Well we had lots to talk about since he totally ignored my location and address. I think we had a moment or two where might have understood what I was saying. Finally I jumped out at an intersection and walked away. It seems no firm located and time can be established with people from Iraq. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Korean lime buyer posted Message 2162 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 14, 2003 at 00:59:33 Subject: The unfair trade wars of limes and Korean produce stands I have been buying limes for years from the same old mean Korean lady along with other produce products. As luck would have it I saw limes being offered at half the price and bought them there. I still buy other produce from the Korean stand but they have jacked the price up to make up for the lack of limes I use to purchase. I think there is a lime war going on out there somewhere in the wee hours where produce is being unpacked and sold Koreans are hurling crates of limes at other ethnic group vowing revenge for the theft of good lime selling locations. I tell you the world has gone mad insane with lime envy. Excuse me I need to mix another Kamakzee pitcher. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2163 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 14, 2003 at 05:25:00 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Losing Faith posted Message 2164 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 14, 2003 at 07:28:59 Subject: Re: Ayala's $25 million dollar mistake Glenn may not be too bright, but he is a decent guy (for the most part). But his judgement about people is subpar. Case in point - - - - > B-I-L-L A-Y-A-L-A < - - - - - As I recall they named a movie after the guy......"The J-rk". Dumb as mud and full of himself. Arrogance and ignorance is a dangerous combination. :( : Since Enron and Tyco stupid people just do not have enough fun spending other peoples money wait then there was Ayala he got to waste $25 million just because well we do not know yet but think about it could he be playing the market speculating on bonds maybe a little bird well actually a Vulture tells me if the City Defaults Ayala stands to make some money somewhere. Oh my lord how can that be someone entrusted with the publics welfare speculating and manipulating their trust for their own enrichment say it is not so. Well it could have only been done by violating Glenn's trust. If Glenn soes not clean house he will be finished. Act now before it is too late Glenn your a good guy with a bad man advising you Ayala has speculated and manipulated a good deal to bad drop the bum. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stolen Dreams of Ward F posted Message 2165 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 14, 2003 at 13:42:55 Subject: Ayala has taken away dream by misinforming Cunningham Ayala has cost the City a great deal more that $25 million and counting but more important is the dream he robbed from all of us and possibly the State at large. Cunningham could have been the Govenor but not now. Cunningham might have been President but not now how can he come back from all the trouble Ayala has caused how is it possible I just do not see it happening in fact I sense grounds for a HCDO Recall effort they have the money they hate Cunningham and they would be happy to see him thrown out so they could crank the money of corruption up again. Ayala is an agent of the beloved Congressman and he the congressman has had his day and lived to see another. Glenn is gone he will not be elected senator or remain as mayor much longer thank Mr. Ayala for the stab in the back. Glenn good luck as county dog cathcer because thats where you are heading. Ayala will be paid off by the beloved Congressman and find another place to sabotage. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 2166 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 14, 2003 at 13:45:43 Subject: Ayala is working secretly for a Recall of Cunnignham Ayala has all but signed the deal to help work against Glenn in a HCDO sponsored Recall for Mayor and forget about the Senate Race Glenn is out caputo. Ayala is probably the smartest political ice man to date. Just one critical mistake was made can you guess what that is? ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2167 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 14, 2003 at 21:06:27 Subject: What about McGee ??? I keep reading all these posts about Ayala and his screwups, but nothing about Carlton McGee. It is the common opinion among most city workers and the business community that the man is a total incompetent. His Chicago-based financial consultants would have the City in debt and paying interest for tens of years to come. McGee came to his job knowing little about local or state government/laws and hasn't shown he has learned any lessons. He hands out no-bid contracts without regard to purchasing laws. He has hamstrung Police and Fire in their attempts to modernize and meet homeland security burdens. He has failed miserably in automating/computerizing the apparatus of City government. And of course there is the infamous City website created by his buddy Martin Jackson. McGee has a notorious reputation for arrogance and heavy handed tactics. He continually abuses City workers while handing out raises and perks to Cunningham cronies. Ayala may be bad, but McGee is far worse. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Losing Faith posted Message 2168 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 15, 2003 at 09:22:11 Subject: Re: What about McGee ??? If they screw up - - - reward them. Ayala, McGee, Carter....and a Mayor wil A.D.D. . . . . wonderful choices to lead our city into chaos. As for the financial situation...anyone who follows markets should recognize the sector rotation going on for the past few weeks. Out of high P/E tech ... into low P/E large cap and staples. That reflects a changing interest rate environment ...rates will rise after the first of the year and JC will have lost the chance to lock in lower rates. Another screw up ....thanks Bill. : I keep reading all these posts about Ayala and his screwups, but nothing about Carlton McGee. It is the common opinion among most city workers and the business community that the man is a total incompetent. His Chicago-based financial consultants would have the City in debt and paying interest for tens of years to come. : McGee came to his job knowing little about local or state government/laws and hasn't shown he has learned any lessons. He hands out no-bid contracts without regard to purchasing laws. He has hamstrung Police and Fire in their attempts to modernize and meet homeland security burdens. He has failed miserably in automating/computerizing the apparatus of City government. And of course there is the infamous City website created by his buddy Martin Jackson. : McGee has a notorious reputation for arrogance and heavy handed tactics. He continually abuses City workers while handing out raises and perks to Cunningham cronies. : Ayala may be bad, but McGee is far worse. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hound Dog posted Message 2169 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 15, 2003 at 09:51:09 Subject: Re: What about McGee ??? Exactly-What about him? : : If they screw up - - - reward them. Ayala, McGee, Carter....and a Mayor wil A.D.D. . . . . wonderful choices to lead our city into chaos. As for the financial situation...anyone who follows markets should recognize the sector rotation going on for the past few weeks. Out of high P/E tech ... into low P/E large cap and staples. That reflects a changing interest rate environment ...rates will rise after the first of the year and JC will have lost the chance to lock in lower rates. Another screw up ....thanks Bill. Rates already went up a bit to the tune of millions of additional dollars of debt service over the life of any deal of any real size done now compared to a couple of months ago. You happen to be exactly right. Three consecutive months of improving economic number point to higher interest rates. No doubt about it. : : : I keep reading all these posts about Ayala and his screwups, but nothing about Carlton McGee. It is the common opinion among most city workers and the business community that the man is a total incompetent. His Chicago-based financial consultants would have the City in debt and paying interest for tens of years to come. : : McGee came to his job knowing little about local or state government/laws and hasn't shown he has learned any lessons. He hands out no-bid contracts without regard to purchasing laws. He has hamstrung Police and Fire in their attempts to modernize and meet homeland security burdens. He has failed miserably in automating/computerizing the apparatus of City government. And of course there is the infamous City website created by his buddy Martin Jackson. Ayala has the Mayor's ear. McGee does not. McGee is the one competent guy in the list of names above. He is the only one who knows what he is doing and has deep background and experience doing these things. Ayala does not, but has the Mayor wrapped around his finger for some very strange reason nobody seems to understand. If I were a political opponent of Cunningham, I would pay Ayala to keep right on doing what he is doing and he will lead Cunningham into a financial disaster that will take Mayor Man down. Ayala has allied with Sengco to block McGee out of financial decision. Ayala and Sengco together could not add up and balance out a grocery order let alone a major debt restructuring. : : McGee has a notorious reputation for arrogance and heavy handed tactics. He continually abuses City workers while handing out raises and perks to Cunningham cronies. : : Ayala may be bad, but McGee is far worse. With all due respect Weezil, you are very much mistaken about McGee. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HERE! posted Message 2170 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 15, 2003 at 12:25:57 Subject: LQQK Carlton McGee Profile Senior Financial Professional with fifteen years of progressive management experience. A strong communicator with demonstrated leadership and strategic planning work. My professional experiences also include management consulting, securities trading and sales/ marketing of specialty chemicals and plastics. Professional Experience 09/00 to Present Universal Structured Finance Group, Chicago, IL Senior Managing Director Responsible for the establishing a general and special revenue municipal finance advisory practice in the Midwest. Areas of specialization includes tax increment finance, urban transit, housing and economic development. 07/99 to Present City Colleges of Chicago, IL Vice Chancellor of Finance and Chief Financial OfficerResponsible for advising and reporting on the financial performance of Illinois Community College District No. 508. Supervising the revenue, budget, controller, and treasury functions for the seven colleges district with a total enrollment of 165,000 students and a budget in excess of $300 Million. My task was to make and implement policy changes to a weak and scandal plagued division, which had a historical lacked direction. Major accomplishment within the District includes: · Finance manager for the $308 million Capital Improvement Bond Issuance, · Redesign of the budget process to incorporate the strategic directions and goals, · Presented the fiscal year 2001 budget, the first to be balanced without fund balance contributions in seven years, · Made midyear modifications to the fiscal year 2000 budget so as to balance the revenue and expenses for fiscal year with no contribution from fund balance, · Modified our Oracle financial software to deliver more accurate and timely Unit Cost calculations and uniform financial report to the Illinois Community College Board ( ICCB), our chief state oversight and funding agency, · Delivered annual audited financials on time for the first time in six years. · Reorganized the Office of Finance consistent with our strategic directives to be more effective in meeting the needs of internal and external clients, · Develop new cash management and investment policies while substantially improving the accuracy and timeliness of the Districts bill payment process, · Identified optimizing strategies for the procurement and asset management of computer related hardware, · Developed the business requirements for upgrading to the financial management software system. Carlton McGee Page 2 Professional Experience Cont., 2/96 – 7/99 Bureau of Finance, County of CookDeputy Chief Financial Officer Cook County is one of the three largest in the country with a fiscal 1999 budget of over $2.4 billion. This position is responsible for implementation of all bureau wide policies and procedures. · Lead manager for the implementation of the IBM/JD Edwards $20 million financial system with the following integrated functions: general ledger, procurement, accounts payable fixed assets and on-line Comprehensive Annual Financial Reporting (CAFR) and electronic time and attendance. · Liaison between the financial function and the Office of Automation and Management Information Systems. · Finance Team member for the 1996, 1997 and 1998 series for Cook County financings totaling in excess of $1.485 billion. · Participated in the supervision of bureau departments, such as budget, revenue, purchasing, county comptroller and contract compliance. · Interim department heads for the 31 person Risk Management department that included countywide functions for employee benefits, workers compensation, safety and general liability insurance. . Supervised the audit, the preparation of strategic goals and annual budget. 7/91 – 2/96 Department of Finance, City of ChicagoFirst Managing Deputy ComptrollerThis position is responsible for the implementation of all-departmental policies and procedures. Lead finance person responsible for municipal finance projects in the areas of emergency telecommunication, urban transit, low and moderate income housing, solid waste disposal and commercial economic development, $1.2 billion in total. · Program manager for the evaluation, design and installation of a new human resource information system with automated time and attendance, benefits, budgeting and payroll functions, · Reviewed loan proposals for the Housing and Planning Development departments. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2171 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 15, 2003 at 13:38:56 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Losing Faith posted Message 2172 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 15, 2003 at 18:13:01 Subject: Re: What about McGee ??? Exactly-What about him? Exactly my point....but they (GDC, Ayala, McGee) either don't care about additional debt service caused by their vasilation, are to slow on the up take to understand what those dollars would mean for us average JC residents, are looking for a way to personally profit from refinancing haven't found it yet, or are afraid that they don't have the ability to explain new bonding for refinancing to the public....so they play ostrich. Anyway you look at it...the folks of JC pay the price...for years to come. : Rates already went up a bit to the tune of millions of additional : dollars of debt service over the life of any deal of any real size done now compared to a couple of months ago. You happen to : be exactly right. Three consecutive months of improving economic : number point to higher interest rates. No doubt about it. : : : : If they screw up - - - reward them. Ayala, McGee, Carter....and a Mayor wil A.D.D. . . . . wonderful choices to lead our city into chaos. As for the financial situation...anyone who follows markets should recognize the sector rotation going on for the past few weeks. Out of high P/E tech ... into low P/E large cap and staples. That reflects a changing interest rate environment ...rates will rise after the first of the year and JC will have lost the chance to lock in lower rates. Another screw up ....thanks Bill. : : : : : I keep reading all these posts about Ayala and his screwups, but nothing about Carlton McGee. It is the common opinion among most city workers and the business community that the man is a total incompetent. His Chicago-based financial consultants would have the City in debt and paying interest for tens of years to come. : : : McGee came to his job knowing little about local or state government/laws and hasn't shown he has learned any lessons. He hands out no-bid contracts without regard to purchasing laws. He has hamstrung Police and Fire in their attempts to modernize and meet homeland security burdens. He has failed miserably in automating/computerizing the apparatus of City government. And of course there is the infamous City website created by his buddy Martin Jackson. : Ayala has the Mayor's ear. McGee does not. McGee is the one competent guy in the list of names above. He is the only one who knows what he is doing and has deep background and experience doing these things. Ayala does not, but has the Mayor wrapped around his finger for some very strange reason nobody seems to understand. If I were a political opponent of Cunningham, I would pay Ayala to keep right on doing what he is doing and he will lead Cunningham into a financial disaster that will take Mayor Man down. Ayala has allied with Sengco to block McGee out of financial decision. Ayala and Sengco together could not add up and balance out a grocery order let alone a major debt restructuring. : : : McGee has a notorious reputation for arrogance and heavy handed tactics. He continually abuses City workers while handing out raises and perks to Cunningham cronies. : : : Ayala may be bad, but McGee is far worse. With all due respect Weezil, you are very much mistaken about McGee. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JEdgarH posted Message 2173 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 15, 2003 at 19:06:22 Subject: McGee to be investigated For trying to push the Knight Group without administration or council approval. The JJ says that neither the administration or council can understand why this group must get paid. Stay tuned ***************** End Of Article ****************** Treky for a Clean Government live long and profit posted Message 2174 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 15, 2003 at 21:18:10 Subject: If Hudson County where Star Trek who would be Capt. Kirk So I think we can basically start a large posting by finding out who would be capt. Kirk, Spock, and whatever please try and give at least several potential candidates. Since the elections are all rigged I think this serves as a means of venting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yeoman Rand posted Message 2175 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 15, 2003 at 23:33:26 Subject: Re: If Hudson County where Star Trek who would be Capt. Kirk Can we mix & match city and county employees or are we limited? : So I think we can basically start a large posting by finding out who would be capt. Kirk, Spock, and whatever please try and give at least several potential candidates. Since the elections are all rigged I think this serves as a means of venting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** This could be a riot. posted Message 2176 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 15, 2003 at 23:42:53 Subject: Re: If Hudson County where Star Trek who would be Capt. Kirk Mix and match!.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2177 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 15, 2003 at 23:52:25 Subject: Where did we get this guy ??? (McGee) Who was responsible for bringing Carlton McGee to Jersey City ? I've heard stories that he was related by marriage to either Jackson or Cardwell. Or that Cardwell had contacts with African American folks in Chicago who recommended this guy. Does anyone have the answer ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2178 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 16, 2003 at 04:12:23 Subject: Why not. . . Why not let one side be the Federation and the other side the Klingons? The gadflies and all the other Antis can be the Romulons. Of course, this is all based on the original Star Trek. I've never seen any of the nouveaux vintages. Beam me up Scottie! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens, The Urban Times News posted Message 2179 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 16, 2003 at 11:45:35 Subject: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" jstevens@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2180 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 16, 2003 at 14:04:30 Subject: See when I change the names...it flows better and is much more accurate : Has everyone in Hudson County excepted that all of the politicans are corrupt. I saw a recent copy of the Hudson Reporter, and they have a photo of, currently indicted Ex-Mayor of Jersey City , beaming that his buddy won the Assembley seat. : Not a mention on the cover of the Hudson Reporter that he's has been in jail. : What happened to the 31st being unbiased and fair. : How can they be when our Mayor Glenn Cunningham, who has some sort of relationship with Bobby Jackson, Urbantimesnews.com, is representing every major Developer on the Waterfront. Look at his website,oh no you can't we are locked out need password.. No one answers the Office phone. : Hudson County on a whole needs a revolution, there needs to be systemic change throughout the whole system. : There is so much wasted money, and time, that could be better handled and managed to no avail. : But the citizens of Hudson just keep excepting it, and let it roll along. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Failed Housing Programs Ayala's legacy posted Message 2181 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 16, 2003 at 16:58:01 Subject: Jersey City owns a great deal of housing stock The city should get out of the landlord business and give the buildings and land it does not need away. There is a great economic reason for this in empowers ownership and increases the tax base. The city is holding on to property it does not need while its debt requirements go threw the roof thanks to Ayala. In essence Cunningham must be forced from office due to his inability to serve and handle complex issues. It is not enough to be clean and corruption free we require people with ideas and solutions to problems Cunnigham has not shown one hint as to being able to provide any of the solutions required. If anything is a testement to his inability to lead it is Ayala as his chief advisor. As far as McGee goes he would be better off leaving since the idiots that run the city couldn't even understand what he was trying to achieve. Why is it only the stupid hold office my guess is smart people tend to stay away from sinking ships. McGee should leave to serve another city one with more informed leadership. Cunningham you broke our hearts you are a pompous twit while not corrupt you are really DUMB. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Recall Cunningham based on stupidty posted Message 2182 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 16, 2003 at 17:01:59 Subject: Recall the ignorant fool of a Mayor The people must not be served by those that have no ability to think. I'm sure as a police officer Glenn served well but really a flatfoot as Mayor please we require someone that can dance a litttle tough times are coming flatfooted dimwits need not apply. Recall Glenn from the Mayors office and get that bloody fool Ayala a new truck. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ? posted Message 2183 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 16, 2003 at 20:34:08 Subject: Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" : sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** makes ya wonder, huh Stevie? posted Message 2184 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 16, 2003 at 22:52:38 Subject: Hmmmm. A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control ***************** End Of Article ****************** Losing Faith posted Message 2185 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 17, 2003 at 10:16:21 Subject: Re: Ayala is working secretly for a Recall of Cunnignham You give this idiot too much credit. He has to use an instruction manual to tie his shoes in the morning. And he should know, even with his limitied intellect, that the N Hudson politicos think he's trash. Maybe they also think he's gullible enouth to take their bait, but it would be political suicide for him to turn on GDC. He makes over 100G and has more power than any child should be trusted with. Where else will he find a 330-million dollar sandbox to play in?? Ayala will only go north if GDC gets some smarts and cans his butt. And then ...why would they want him? : Ayala has all but signed the deal to help work against Glenn in a HCDO sponsored Recall for Mayor and forget about the Senate Race Glenn is out caputo. Ayala is probably the smartest political ice man to date. Just one critical mistake was made can you guess what that is? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2186 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 17, 2003 at 16:05:51 Subject: Sound Familiar? Click on the Link to hear an audio clip. Post if you can identify the speaker. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2187 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 17, 2003 at 16:46:10 Subject: NEWS 12 Video: Assemblyman-elect Chiappone Appears On NJ Power & Politics To view the NEWS 12 video Online, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** sherlock holmes posted Message 2188 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 17, 2003 at 16:50:54 Subject: Re: Sound Familiar? give us a hint. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2189 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 17, 2003 at 17:32:50 Subject: Re: Sound Familiar? : give us a hint. If nobody gets it by noon on Tuesday, I'll post the answer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2190 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 17, 2003 at 17:37:03 Subject: Tonites show topics. Journal Squares a nightmare, MUA water bill collections,New Doctors office on MLK drive, Newport mall parking fee's "Yes that topic again"...and who wants tobe Mayor of Jersey City? all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SH posted Message 2191 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 17, 2003 at 17:49:51 Subject: Re: Sound Familiar? Do we win anything....cuz I know the answer! ***************** End Of Article ****************** MJW posted Message 2192 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 17, 2003 at 19:28:47 Subject: Re: Sound Familiar? Steven Glazer and Bobby Jackson during his interview for the Urban Times News. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Losing Faith posted Message 2193 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 17, 2003 at 20:46:56 Subject: Re: Sound Familiar? Sounds like Denzel Washington giving the answer. No idea who is asking the question. : Click on the Link to hear an audio clip. Post if you can identify the speaker. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lippyleo posted Message 2194 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 17, 2003 at 21:19:51 Subject: Re: Sound Familiar? : Click on the Link to hear an audio clip. Post if you can identify the speaker. The football star/actor/woman beater Jim Brown. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jj posted Message 2195 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 00:50:22 Subject: Re: Sound Familiar? Cunnigham? ***************** End Of Article ****************** New County of Hope posted Message 2196 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 04:41:50 Subject: Jersey City needs to be another county If we kick Glenn out of office and run Ayala out of town we can then begin the process of getting Hudson County dirt bags and start a new county. So Step one throw Glenn out of office Step 2 Run Ayala out of town for good Step 3 remove Hudson County from our hair. On three lets go. If it where all that simple life would be grand but it is not easy and will never be easy until we break the chains of Hudson County off our backs. Imagine if you will a people that control their lives and their money and have their will expressed in the government that serves them. We are all victims no lets start kickin some you know what and free ourselves from the fools that steal our taxes our money our lives. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 2197 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 07:51:03 Subject: HCDO.org Registrant Name:Robert Janiszewski Registrant Organization:Hudson County Democratic Organization Registrant Street1:P O Box 8177 Registrant City:Jersey City Registrant State/Province:NJ Registrant Postal Code:07308 Registrant Country:US Registrant Email:info@hudsoncountydemocrats.org Admin ID:AITorgADM4423 Admin Name:Robert Janiszewski Admin Organization:Hudson County Democratic Organization Admin Street1:P O Box 8177 Admin City:Jersey City Admin State/Province:NJ Admin Postal Code:07308 Admin Country:US Admin Email:info@hudsoncountydemocrats.org Billing ID:AITorgBIL4423 Billing Name:Robert Janiszewski Billing Organization:Hudson County Democratic Organization Billing Street1:P O Box 8177 Billing City:Jersey City Billing State/Province:NJ Billing Postal Code:07308 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manolo posted Message 2198 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 07:52:36 Subject: HUDSONCOUNTYDEMOCRATS.org Registrant Name:Robert Janiszewski Registrant Organization:Hudson County Democratic Organization Registrant Street1:P O Box 8177 Registrant City:Jersey City Registrant State/Province:NJ Registrant Postal Code:07308 Registrant Country:US Registrant Email:info@hudsoncountydemocrats.org Admin ID:AITorgADM4423 Admin Name:Robert Janiszewski Admin Organization:Hudson County Democratic Organization Admin Street1:P O Box 8177 Admin City:Jersey City Admin State/Province:NJ Admin Postal Code:07308 Admin Country:US Admin Email:info@hudsoncountydemocrats.org Billing ID:AITorgBIL4423 Billing Name:Robert Janiszewski Billing Organization:Hudson County Democratic Organization Billing Street1:P O Box 8177 Billing City:Jersey City Billing State/Province:NJ Billing Postal Code:07308 Billing Country:US Billing Email:info@hudsoncountydemocrats.org ***************** End Of Article ****************** IXNAY posted Message 2199 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 08:12:01 Subject: Re: Sound Familiar? : Cunnigham? WRONG. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who cares posted Message 2200 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 08:39:09 Subject: Re: Tonites show topics. Duh....anyone actually listen to this blowhard??? : Journal Squares a nightmare, MUA water bill collections,New Doctors office on MLK drive, Newport mall parking fee's "Yes that topic again"...and who wants tobe Mayor of Jersey City? all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manala posted Message 2201 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 08:48:46 Subject: UrbanTimesNews.Com Domain Name.......... urbantimesnews.com Creation Date........ 2000-10-04 Registration Date.... 2000-10-04 Expiry Date.......... 2004-10-04 Organisation Name.... Jersey City Public Library/Miller Branch Organisation Address. 529 Bergen Ave Organisation Address. Organisation Address. Jersey City Organisation Address. 07304 Organisation Address. NJ Organisation Address. UNITED STATES Admin Name........... Martin Jackson Admin Address........ 529 Bergen Ave Admin Address........ Admin Address........ Jersey City Admin Address........ 07304 Admin Address........ NJ Admin Address........ UNITED STATES Admin Email.......... weblink@voicenet.com Admin Phone.......... (888)453 3564 Admin Fax............ Tech Name............ VERIO VERIO Tech Address......... 12345 Blue Lake Dr. Tech Address......... Tech Address......... Boca Raton Tech Address......... 33431 Tech Address......... FL Tech Address......... UNITED STATES Tech Email........... hostmaster@VERIO-HOSTING.COM Tech Phone........... 888-663-6648 Tech Fax............. Name Server.......... ns7.zoneedit.com Name Server.......... ns12.zoneedit.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2202 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 10:40:37 Subject: Common knowledge The fact that the registration for the Urban Times website is being paid for with Library funds has been common knowledge for some time now. Councilman Gaughan, among others, has questioned it. And nothing has happened. Just another example of the malfeasance of the Cunningham Gang. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2203 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 10:48:15 Subject: I think it's ... MALCOLM X ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2204 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 10:54:43 Subject: Yes, it's Malcolm X Yes, it's Malcolm X from a speech at Berkeley (University of California) on October 11, 1963. ***************** End Of Article ****************** People for Open Government posted Message 2205 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 16:56:44 Subject: Hoboken Council Delays Vote PEOPLE FOR OPEN GOVERNMENT November 18, 2003 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: John Glasel (201) 533-0435; j.glasel@att.net ================================================================ HOBOKEN COUNCIL DELAYS VOTE HOBOKEN - A proposal to bring the City of Hoboken's communications into the 21st Century was removed from Monday night's City Council agenda after proponents objected to a sub-committee's changes in the bill. The measure would provide for all city offices, boards and agencies to communicate via e-mail and require that public information and documents be posted on its web site. The original sponsors of the bill, People for Open Government (POG), were surprised by what appeared to be an attempt to water down their "Electronic Access Ordinance" by converting it into a "resolution," which is much easier to repeal. The group was nonplussed. "Everyone on the City Council said they liked our proposal, but it came out of their subcommittee a pale shadow of its former self," said spokesman John Glasel. In addition to transforming it into a resolution, he added, "they stuck in a couple of loopholes big enough to drive a truck bomb through." As a result of POG's objections, its representatives were invited to a meeting of the Council's Technology Sub-committee to be held next week. It was hoped that differences could be resolved so that the three-step ordinance enactment process could be started at the next Council meeting, slated for December 3rd . #### ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2206 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 17:47:10 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show: November 17, 2003 To access an Online recording of Pat's broadcast, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rem posted Message 2207 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2003 at 19:08:36 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show: November 17, 2003 O' happy, happy, joy, joy...our lives are now complete! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens, The Urban Times News posted Message 2208 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 19, 2003 at 04:49:56 Subject: CUNNINGHAM A RACIST, URBAN TIMES NEWS A RACIST PUBLICATION, IN FACT EVERYBODY WE KNOW IS A RACIST The Urban Times News By Jay Stevens--email:jstevens@urbantimesnews.com Excerpted from Inside County Lines by Jay Stevens from UTN coming edition… A good friend of ours operates a popular website, getnj.com with a Hudson County Politics message board. We have posted some articles there from time to time, and your author has posted this column there on occasion. Shortly after we started doing this, he was labeled a racist as was his message board. Our friend the website editor, is Caucasian, Eastern European, Slavic, high cheekbone variety, one Anthony Olszewski by name. You do not get much whiter specimens. You would think he was spewing forth KKK propaganda on his website. Nothing of the kind had happened. He had merely allowed an African American publication to post some articles and columns on his website. He was formerly aligned with and even worked for the Schundler administration. Our Mr. Olszewski is an erudite man and the accusations of racism leveled against him from out of left field rang a bell and the little light bulb went on. Our friend the web site editor went digging through the archives and found what he was looking for: A recording of a speech given long ago by Malcolm X, predicting the phenomenon of Uncle Harvey, and explaining how Jersey City’s first African American Mayor, Glenn Cunningham comes to be labeled a racist by the political opposition and the press they control. It is truly eye opening to listen to Malcolm X’s remarks given forty years ago. If you did not know, you would easily believe it was today, right now that these remarks were said and they could easily refer to what is going on with Cunningham and his war with the political machine here in Hudson County. You can hear the audio of Malcolm’s remarks by going to the website, a clicking on the link, or just copy or cut and paste this link into your browser window-www.njreporter.com/labelclipedit.m3u. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 2209 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 19, 2003 at 06:52:12 Subject: Ayala promised new job as Mayor after regiem change In a less than public manner Ayala has been shopping his services to potential rivals to the current Mayor's regime. By laying the ground work for his eventual run for Mayor. Funding is not an issue the HCDO spent 2.5 million against Glenn in a primary and lost whats another 2.5 million to get Ayala elected Mayor. The lack of refinancing will e laid at Glenns feet and be used by those that oppose to defeat the Mayor in a special recall election the effort under way. The HCDO does not want Glenn around so they are able and willing to do what needs to be done. The only problem is the Mayor provided the fuel for his own fire Bye Bye Mr. Mayor hello Mr. Ayala. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 2210 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 19, 2003 at 06:55:21 Subject: Ayala Parade get in front and lead or get run over The line starts to the rear for the Ayala for Mayor Parade. No it is not official but what is in Hudsonland. A rumor is as good as a fact the only certain thing is you are being wire tapped and eventually will meet a Federal Agent at least one you know is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The real truth needs to be told. posted Message 2211 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 19, 2003 at 18:40:41 Subject: Re: CUNNINGHAM A RACIST, URBAN TIMES NEWS A RACIST PUBLICATION, IN FACT EVERYBODY WE KNOW IS A RACIST Who are you kidding! Jay Stevens is a factious person the real writer is Steven Glazer posing as a 50 yr old African American women. You claim you post time to time. For the past 7 months, you have flooded this message boards on a daily basis. You were even suspended from posting because you were out of control. Mr. Glazer do you recall telling a community leader at a Jersey City council meeting that your soul purpose was to promote Bobby Jackson's personal agenda no matter what the cost is ? You are also Caucasian, Eastern European, and Jewish. This has nothing to do with anything. The bottom line and this is in your own words Steven Glazer "The goal is to line Bobby Jackson's pockets and I want a piece of it"...this is the real reason. You feel the more hurtful things you write will impress your boss well Steve you are sadly mistaken. What would Bobby Jackson think if he knew the things that you are doing behind his back. I have no pity on Mr. Jackson you both are your own worst enemies except he has millions and you have nothing Steve. And by posting this crap will never make him share it with you.. You along with Bobby Jackson have used Mr. Olszewski for your own personal agenda. He has a wonderful site and should move forward away from this type nonsense. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2212 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 20, 2003 at 03:43:49 Subject: GET NJ Can't Identify Anonymous Posters Neither Steve Glazer nor the Urban Times news were ever suspended from posting at this board. A few anonymous posters (on both sides of the aisle) were barred for 24 hours (either for inappropriate material or for flooding). GET NJ can prevent a particular Internet connection from placing messages, but has no way of determining the identity of anonymous posters. - - - As has been said many times, use of the Hudson County Politics Board at GET NJ is available to all. Anybody can post a text messages directly from the Page. If an organization would like assistance in posting material with extensive formatting, logos, or pictures, GET NJ is ready to help. ALL views are welcome as long as they relate to Hudson County Politics in some concrete way and stay inside the bounds of legality and taste (by Hudson County political standards which are -- granted -- very low). : Who are you kidding! : Jay Stevens is a factious person the real writer is Steven Glazer posing as a 50 yr old African American women. : You claim you post time to time. For the past 7 months, you have flooded this message boards on a daily basis. You were even suspended from posting because you were out of control. : Mr. Glazer do you recall telling a community leader at a Jersey City council meeting that your soul purpose was to promote Bobby Jackson's personal agenda no matter what the cost is ? : You are also Caucasian, Eastern European, and Jewish. This has nothing to do with anything. : The bottom line and this is in your own words Steven Glazer "The goal is to line Bobby Jackson's pockets and I want a piece of it"...this is the real reason. : You feel the more hurtful things you write will impress your boss well Steve you are sadly mistaken. What would Bobby Jackson think if he knew the things that you are doing behind his back. : I have no pity on Mr. Jackson you both are your own worst enemies except he has millions and you have nothing Steve. And by posting this crap will never make him share it with you.. : You along with Bobby Jackson have used Mr. Olszewski for your own personal agenda. : He has a wonderful site and should move forward away from this type nonsense. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth needs to be told posted Message 2213 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 20, 2003 at 09:28:49 Subject: Re: GET NJ Can't Identify Anonymous Posters Anthony, the poster who was barred for 24 hours was Steve Glaze He even told us that he couldn't post dirunf that time. The problem is not Getnj.... it's Glazer's abuse of Getnj. As for the statement below....How true! ALL views are welcome as long as they relate to Hudson County Politics in some concrete way and stay inside the bounds of legality and taste (by Hudson County political standards which are -- granted -- very low ***************** End Of Article ****************** LQQK HERE! posted Message 2214 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 20, 2003 at 11:11:18 Subject: Schundler For Mayor Schundler (L.) to run for Mayor with the help of Congressman Robert Menenedez (C.) and Kay LiCausi (R.). To dream the impossible dream, that this post shall not be deleted! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Santa's helper posted Message 2215 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 20, 2003 at 21:01:32 Subject: Offshore Bank Accounts Is it possible for all Hudson County politicians that have accounts offshore to at least kick back ten percent to a charitable cause in Hudson County. This year has been tough on everyone and giving is down. We realize that the mistress requires a certain amount every month and that new seawall will really improve the property in the Turks but please remember where you took the money from and throw a taste back to the little people during this giving season. Happy Holidays. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Santa's helper posted Message 2216 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 20, 2003 at 21:05:22 Subject: Contest Time guess the name of the offshore trust A funny thing happened while going through Ayalas trash strange and wonderful things appeared. A statement from a tropical location with numbers lots of numbers. But not in the name of the owner of the trash but rather in the name of a Trust. So its contest time guess the name of Ayala's offshore trust account and win a prize. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2217 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 20, 2003 at 21:29:27 Subject: DAVID FRIEDLAND !!!! Or was it Cornelius Gallagher ??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2218 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 21, 2003 at 11:09:22 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired : Hey BJ....who is Dorf ? I'm so out of touch. You are out of touch .. Brian Dorf is a good man and this slander and petty politcal unprofessional garbage and mudslinging is disgusting ... and immature .. You all don't deserve to have Brian Dorf anywhere on your campaign .. You guys are the lowest of the low .. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2219 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 21, 2003 at 12:16:25 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired : Hey BJ....who is Dorf ? I'm so out of touch. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2220 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 21, 2003 at 12:17:53 Subject: Re: Ayala Parade get in front and lead or get run over : The line starts to the rear for the Ayala for Mayor Parade. No it is not official but what is in Hudsonland. A rumor is as good as a fact the only certain thing is you are being wire tapped and eventually will meet a Federal Agent at least one you know is. And I will cheer the day when you are flushed from the political pipes of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2221 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 21, 2003 at 13:31:49 Subject: Re: Check your spelling!!!! First of all .. whoever wrote this is has no clue about anything .. nor does not know the truth .. nor does not know how to spell .. Mr Dorf as you call him is none of what you described .. you have no clue what he is all about .. No he was not canned as you say ..He is a very good person with a great mind ... creative thinking and ideas ..and as far as this campaign goes it is nothing more than disgusting mudslinging garbage and lies .. which is what your campaign is all about ..can't wait to see you go down the political pipes of jersey : I object to the harsh tone used against "parasites" : First, how hard can it be to use spell check! : Second, comparing Parasites (who are a valuable part of the world's ecology) to Brian Dorf, is offensive to Parasites. We need to distinguish between a necessary organism in Nature's food chain from Brian Dorf for which there is no justification. : He got fired, drives around in a corvette, and lives off of his daddy. : And think of this. Of all the real winners down in City Hall, Dorf is the only one to manange to get himself fired. : And yes, the Cunningham Team has been on a big winning streak since he was canned. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2222 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 21, 2003 at 16:35:10 Subject: Re: Typical : Spoken like a true Cunningham Kool Aid drinker. Hey I think this is petty immature political garbage and mudslinging .. my gosh .. Mr Dorf has a great head on his shoulders and is tons better than all this political crap.. The stuff about bringing up his brother was so very wrong .. hope this campaign goes down the political pipes of jersey ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cayman Islands posted Message 2223 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 21, 2003 at 19:45:56 Subject: Walters, Menendez, Scarinci Et Al Cayman Islands ............Bruce Walters & Bob Menendez set up the accounts years ago. Made many many trips. Excuse was "going there to fish". : A funny thing happened while going through Ayalas trash strange and wonderful things appeared. A statement from a tropical location with numbers lots of numbers. But not in the name of the owner of the trash but rather in the name of a Trust. So its contest time guess the name of Ayala's offshore trust account and win a prize. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Santa's Helper posted Message 2224 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 21, 2003 at 22:02:14 Subject: What does the HCDO and the King of Pop have in common? They take from the innocent the only thing they have their soul. That includes you Mr. Mayor and your side kick truckdriver buddy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** It's So Obvious posted Message 2225 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 22, 2003 at 11:04:46 Subject: Maurice Fitzgibbons ! : They take from the innocent the only thing they have their soul. That includes you Mr. Mayor and your side kick truckdriver buddy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2226 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 22, 2003 at 16:50:18 Subject: Dave Friedland, Legislator Dave Friedland, Legislator By Anthony Olszewski In the 1960's and 70's, Dave Friedland was the quintessential New Jersey politician. As Hudson County's version of the Renaissance man, he was a poet, lawyer to the Teamsters, legislator, scuba diver, fugitive, and, finally, inmate. Dave Friedland also possessed remarkable powers of persuasion. One day, on the New Jersey State Assembly floor, David Friedland worked himself into a frenzy prophesizing the doom that would befall New Jersey, Society, yea, the Universe, if a certain bill passed. "Women will no longer bear children...The sun shall cease rising in the East...Stars shall come loose in the night sky and fall into the ocean... His speech was cut short by a lunch break. As Dave Friedland was about to leave the building, an aide, out of breath, came running up to him. "Sir, you've got a phone call." Not breaking his stride, without turning to look at the functionary, "Tell them, I'll call back." Braking by pressing his heels into the marble floor, the aide grabbed Dave Friedland, by the sleeve. "You've got a call." Assemblyman Friedland knew what a call was. He immediately turned and hurried to his office. Pushing past a minor multitude of favor and job seekers, David Friedland made his way to a back room. Dave closed and locked the door before picking up the phone. J.V. Kenny, political boss of Hudson County for two generations, was on the other end. "Are you out of your mind! That's my bill! I've been working all year to get that thing passed! What are you doing! Stop it! STOP IT! STOP IT!!!" And then hung up. Later that afternoon, after lunch, as the Assembly re-convened, Dave Friedland rose to speak. "Now that I've pointed out the few minor flaws, imperfections, merely cosmetic blemishes so-to-speak, of this fine bill, let me now relate all its good points, the benefits, the bounty, the cornucopia...." The bill passed. - - - In a strange confluence of Hudson County politics and the dazed and confused zeitgeist of the '70s (Was the geist, zeit or polter?), as a campaign promotion, Dave Friedland proposed printing his name on packs of rolling papers! In a further stroke of warped genius, he intended to have a different campaign promise on each individual sheet. An aide convinced him that the druggie "constituency" probably did not include many voters ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hoboken PBA posted Message 2227 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 23, 2003 at 02:16:38 Subject: Jersey City Police Officer Domenick Infantes I'm sure that everyone is aware of a recent verdict out of Hudson County Superior Court over the Domenick Infantes Murder which, to my mind, is outrageous. The members of Jersey City PD are seeking support to force a Civil Rights prosecution against the Gavina Brothers & to persuade Judge Kevin Callahan of Hudson County Superior Court to impose the MAXIMUM sentence in this case. Copies of form letters were handed out at the candle light vigil for Domenick in Jersey City on 11/14. I have posted form letters on the Hoboken PBA Web Site for download and printing at:http://www.hobokenpba.org/infanteshelp.html I am asking anyone who finds these events to be as outrageous as I do to please print out, complete and send these letters to show our support for law enforcement and for the family of the fallen officer. Thanks for your time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unkown@aol.com posted Message 2228 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 23, 2003 at 15:48:17 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired : Is it a coincidence that once Brian Dorf was fired that Cunningham has been on a winning streak? I think that remark about Brian Dorf's hair and goutee was disgusting and immature .. can't believe political candidates can make comments like that .. how dumb and immature ... Brian Dorf looks fine and takes great care of himself .. has always been independent .. He is better off than the joker who wrote this and the rest of these dumb immature comments ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2229 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 24, 2003 at 18:06:37 Subject: Tonite on HCT. Thanksgiving in Hudson County, Trenton thinking about pumping the price of gas 32 cents a gal?, JC's old muni court house on the auction block?, Schundler sightings, Container port in Bayonne, Nidia's toast on 12/15 all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown@aol.com posted Message 2230 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2003 at 12:37:34 Subject: Re: Check your spelling!!!! I totally object to your reference to a parasite .. stop the political garbage ... can't wait till this campaign goes down the jersey sewer pipes where you belong As for Brian Dorf ... he is definitely not a parasite .. not in a million years .. not even in the same league or class as the writer of this message board .. he is a great PR man and spokesperson .. not to mention handsome too :) : I object to the harsh tone used against "parasites" : First, how hard can it be to use spell check! : Second, comparing Parasites (who are a valuable part of the world's ecology) to Brian Dorf, is offensive to Parasites. We need to distinguish between a necessary organism in Nature's food chain from Brian Dorf for which there is no justification. : He got fired, drives around in a corvette, and lives off of his daddy. : And think of this. Of all the real winners down in City Hall, Dorf is the only one to manange to get himself fired. : And yes, the Cunningham Team has been on a big winning streak since he was canned. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bill posted Message 2231 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2003 at 12:55:11 Subject: Re: Dave Friedland, Legislator :What ever happened to Friedland anyway, last I read he was still doing the scuba diving instructor thing down in Florida? That dosen't sound like enough excitment for a man of his talents and exploits. ***************** End Of Article ****************** paul revere posted Message 2232 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2003 at 15:26:55 Subject: Revolt against the Republican Party and the Bush administration. Revolt against the Republican Party and the Bush administration. Petition: TELL CONGRESS WE WANT A PRESCRIPTION DRUG BENEFIT UNDER MEDICARE PART B (put this link in a browser at work and at a public library and leave the page showing. Make it a browser favorite too) Location: http://www.thePetitionSite.com/takeaction/383366962 INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ABOUT REPUBLICANS, PUNISH REPUBLICANS. I have started the Buy nothing on Fridays movement. The Buy nothing Friday movement will work this way. You will tell your friends and family and colleagues who do not use the net, to avoid buying anything on Fridays. You and everyone you speak to will tell their merchants that we do not support the chimp and we're going on a purchasing strike on every Friday until the Nov 2004 election. You also tell them that you hope they will do everything they can to help vote the chimp out and their republican congresspeople out in 2004. You will tell your friends, family and merchants If the chimp steals another election or somehow wins, you will also avoid purchasing items on Thursday and this will inflict more punishment on them for not doing enough to unseat the chimp in the 2004 election. Boycott the LA Dodgers, Arnold's movies, the Viper Car Alarm, Disneyland until Arnold resigns leaving Cruz Bustamante to serve as Governor. Spread the word. Boycott the LA Dodgers, Arnold's movies, the Viper Car Alarm, Disneyland until Arnold resigns leaving Cruz Bustamante to serve as Governor. Do not go to any games where the LA Dodgers appear as visitors or home and tell the Dodgers you will see their games after they get Arnold to resign. Browse http://www.dodgers.com and send them email from their website telling them to get Arnold to resign or you will not see their games. Browse these websites http://www.schwarzenegger.com and email them from their site that you will not buy nor rent Arnold's movies from the video store. http://www.directed.com makers of the Viper Car Alarm once owned by Darrell Issa and email them from their website that you will not buy the Viper Car alarm. http://www.disneyland.com and email from their website that you will not go to Disney Land. You will refrain from doing business with these 4 entities until Arnold Schwarzenegger resigns leaving Cruz Bustamante to take office as Governor. Stop the Republican Texas redistricting effort. Call JC Penney Corporate Headquarters in Plano, Texas and tell them unless they get Governor Goodhair Perry to stop redistricting until 2010 when it should happen again, you will not set foot in another JC Penney Store again. Simple. So let it get written, so let it get done. Call them at 1-800-322-1189 Petition: TELL CONGRESS YOU DON'T SUPPORT THE REPUBLICAN AGENDA Location: http://www.thePetitionSite.com/takeaction/630654745 "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith (1908 - ) The George W Bush 2000 Stolen Election Commemorative Gold Coin http://www.stolenelectioncoin.com I don't blame America first. I blame Republicans first. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2233 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2003 at 15:34:55 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2234 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2003 at 16:10:56 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show, November 24, 2003 To access an Online recording of last night's broadcast, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Auntie Em posted Message 2235 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2003 at 22:03:15 Subject: I'm sick and tired of corruption now stop it Guys haven't you taken enough really all those millions hundreds of millions and still going at it. Is there no end to the greed at some point you should just say enough is enough but not you hundreds of millions is not enough so you go on and on taking and no giving please stop its really boring. If you stop now maybe when they do get you they will say what a nice group of corrupt politicians maybe we do not have to lock them up for too long. Get the idea and you know who you are STOP IT NOW or else. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Refinance Alert posted Message 2236 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2003 at 22:05:46 Subject: Help I've fallen down and cannot get up Help I've fallen down and cannot get up thats the sound of Jersey City not Refinancing the debt soon. Do it now and save $50 million or do it later and pay $50 million or more. I did not want to have to say this but this Refinance Alert is brought to you compliments of Ayala the wonder whatever. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stupido posted Message 2237 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2003 at 22:11:17 Subject: Ayala the Wonder Whatever After a couple of one on one sessions with a therapist maybe the second bannana to Glenn's comedy routine could spray us with some seltzer and some pancake powder then I would have a laugh on something other than the pitiful show Ayala gave us the other day when he physically mauled someone with two police officiers witnessing and a reporter to boot. Come on Ayala stop the truckstop tactics this is a grown up world so change your diaper take the lollipop out of your mouth and act like a man with some form of civilization. Glenn get Ayala some new cloths and shoes with lifts that way his knuckles wouldn't scrap when he walks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Contest Time posted Message 2238 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2003 at 22:13:00 Subject: What Medical Procedure should we rename for Ayala? What Medical Procedure should we rename for Ayala? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dorothy and Toto too! posted Message 2239 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2003 at 23:49:45 Subject: Dear auntie Em, Tell us who your speaking to. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2240 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 26, 2003 at 08:37:09 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired : Hey BJ....who is Dorf ? I'm so out of touch. You are out of touch ..Brian Dorf is a great PR man .. creative thinker .. great person .. a great people person who gets results! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mary's Little Lamb posted Message 2241 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 26, 2003 at 09:40:37 Subject: Re: Ayala the Wonder Whatever Someone needs to tell Mrs. Cunningham that its not "be kind to orphaned animals" month and maybe she'll stop protecting that socially deviant gorilla. : After a couple of one on one sessions with a therapist maybe the second bannana to Glenn's comedy routine could spray us with some seltzer and some pancake powder then I would have a laugh on something other than the pitiful show Ayala gave us the other day when he physically mauled someone with two police officiers witnessing and a reporter to boot. Come on Ayala stop the truckstop tactics this is a grown up world so change your diaper take the lollipop out of your mouth and act like a man with some form of civilization. Glenn get Ayala some new cloths and shoes with lifts that way his knuckles wouldn't scrap when he walks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Wookie posted Message 2242 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 26, 2003 at 10:57:41 Subject: Vasectomy - Afterall he has no balls Vasectomy - Afterall he has no balls - This was too easy... : What Medical Procedure should we rename for Ayala? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kiss my ..... posted Message 2243 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 26, 2003 at 21:11:48 Subject: Re: Glazer the Dirt Bag These comments from low-lifes that use anything but their own names.....all a bunch of trash and nothing more. : : : I could not have said it better....well done!.... : : Thank you for reading The Urban Times News. : : Hey Glazer,you punk. Cat got your tongue. Answer the question. Got the onions to call Harvey, "uncle Harvey" to his face? Or are just A Bobby Jackson butt boy hiding behind a computer. Stand up once in your life and be a man. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Advisor posted Message 2244 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 26, 2003 at 21:14:48 Subject: Re: McGee to be investigated Hey J Edgar.....or should I say Bill Ayala....still wearing dresses??? : For trying to push the Knight Group without administration or council approval. The JJ says that neither the administration or council can understand why this group must get paid. : Stay tuned ***************** End Of Article ****************** Answer the question dirt bagette posted Message 2245 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 26, 2003 at 21:51:59 Subject: Re: Glazer the Dirt Bag And you are? ***************** End Of Article ****************** William Dunn, Chairman, New Jersey for Clark posted Message 2246 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 27, 2003 at 16:12:41 Subject: LOCAL CLARK SUPPORTERS TO HOLD HOBOKEN FUNDRAISER CONTACT: William Dunn, Chairman, New Jersey for Clark, ***************** End Of Article ****************** We're Doomed posted Message 2247 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 27, 2003 at 16:18:58 Subject: Re: Help I've fallen down and cannot get up Well as long as Mayor Cunningham listens to that idiot Bill Ayala....we're doomed. Lord help us all if this is the best we can find amongst us to lead this great city. I should have stayed in Manhattan and paid the higher rents. At least we had competent leadership there. And people of talent served in the interests of the community, not themselves. : Help I've fallen down and cannot get up thats the sound of Jersey City not Refinancing the debt soon. Do it now and save $50 million or do it later and pay $50 million or more. I did not want to have to say this but this Refinance Alert is brought to you compliments of Ayala the wonder whatever. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Clark is a Clinton shill but a good candidate anyway posted Message 2248 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 27, 2003 at 22:28:11 Subject: Re: LOCAL CLARK SUPPORTERS TO HOLD HOBOKEN FUNDRAISER The candidate General Clark is worthy of running even though he is supported by Clinton who wants to remain in control of the Democratic machine nationally. If Clark can formulate a concrete body of policy he could make a dent in the Dean machine which has Republicans contributing since they feel his run to the left will insure a Bush re-election. : CONTACT: William Dunn, Chairman, New Jersey for Clark, ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 2249 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 27, 2003 at 22:33:03 Subject: How is Cunninghams run for the Senate going I have heard nothing about Glenn's run for the Senate or od they think its some kind of lay up with the Democratic Ticket. I suggest a Republican two front war. Get Glenn recalled and put heavy money against his senate run. I think the HCDO might contribute to the Republican candidate at this point. The plan is to unseat Glenn as Mayor and make his victory for senator marginalized. Imagine the HCDO and the Republicans working together simply to end Glenn's polictical career all they really have to do is make sure Ayala stays on Glenns staff he is damage enough maybe Ayala is a Republican. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 2250 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 27, 2003 at 22:36:53 Subject: HCDO New Years Resolution This year I will take less of the taxpayers money for my own use. I will quit smoking, I will diet and exercise, I will become master of my own domain. I will promise to be good to my family and not beat my wife. I will not open any offshore bank accounts this year. I will try to actually show up for appointments. I will not wear a wire for the Feds. I will subscribe to the Urban Times. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Santa's Helper posted Message 2251 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 27, 2003 at 22:39:34 Subject: HCDO Holiday Party who will play Santa A rather large debate has continued who will play Santa at the HCDO Holiday Party the contract with Mr. Michael Jackson has been canceled at the last minute. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 2252 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 27, 2003 at 22:41:24 Subject: Ayala's secret now told People will wonder why such a stupid guy did so well the secret can now be told Ayala is really a blonde. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 2253 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 27, 2003 at 23:15:33 Subject: HCDO New Years Resolution I will ignore all the trash that Steven Glazer and the Urban Times News post on GetNj. I know he is a troll and even a troll is a living thing. I will try to understand that even spineless,pond scum,butt-boy, like Steve Glazer have to make a living. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2254 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 28, 2003 at 03:36:05 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amazing posted Message 2255 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 28, 2003 at 10:22:59 Subject: Re: HCDO New Years Resolution Gee Wiz Ayala....nothing better to do on Thanksgiving than read and respond to postings on the message boards? What a pitiful life you must have. : I will ignore all the trash that Steven Glazer and the Urban Times News post on GetNj. : I know he is a troll and even a troll is a living thing. : I will try to understand that even spineless,pond scum,butt-boy, like Steve Glazer have to make a living. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not Alaya posted Message 2256 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 28, 2003 at 12:34:06 Subject: Re: HCDO New Years Resolution : Gee Wiz .... you had nothing better to do on Thanksgiving than put the original posting on the message board? What a pitiful life you must have. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 2257 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 28, 2003 at 17:37:09 Subject: HCDO to conduct classes in creative bribe taking and offshore money washing Due to the great demand amongst regulators the HCDO has been asked to provide guidance and instruction on the fine art of bribe taking and offshore money washing. The classes will be held at that very special coffee location in Hoboken classes will start at 7:00 AM and will end around 9:00 AM. Part of the class will be actual bribes and side deals being made coffee will have to be purchased by the members of the class. No tape recorders, note taking, or video cameras allowed. If you know of this location the class is open to all excluding Federal Investigators. Students are expected to kick back at least 10 percent of the bribes collected. If you are able to cheat the instructor you pass those that are forced to pay the total amount will fail. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 2258 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 28, 2003 at 17:39:40 Subject: HCDO has established a price list for all votes cast in the county Living $150.00 per vote with unlimited party affiliation Dead $500.00 per vote ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer-Urban Times News posted Message 2259 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 29, 2003 at 13:50:42 Subject: THE BOND BOMB KEEPS TICKING-BUDGET DEFICIT ALTERNATIVES TAXES, LAYOFFS Steven Glazer-Urban Times News ***************** End Of Article ****************** 19 Months and Counting posted Message 2260 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 29, 2003 at 15:30:05 Subject: Re: THE BOND BOMB KEEPS TICKING-BUDGET DEFICIT ALTERNATIVES TAXES, LAYOFFS : Steven Glazer-Urban Times News So much for the mayor man being a financial genius. His great plan is to borrow to pay for opreating expenses and hope something good happens in the mean time. Not one word as to how to cut spending or raise cash. That would require thought and some tough choices. Glenn was never able to do that. Stevie, your guy is cooked, stick a fork in him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joker posted Message 2261 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 29, 2003 at 21:40:31 Subject: Re: Ayala could be the defacto Mayor You gotta be kidding. This duntz couldn't be elected dog catcher. He's got the personality of a ritz cracker...(sorry to insult the ritz people) and social skills of an elephant. He is obviously deficient for reasons we can only speculate about. His socially remedial personality makes me guess he was adopted at a late age. There is something wrong with that boy. : When you look at the record of the Mayor Ayalas work is clearly seen. The Mayor when he is elected Senator will need a strong presence to run the city I believe Ayala is that person maybe the next Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2262 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 29, 2003 at 23:02:01 Subject: Did the Council vote on this yet ? I haven't seen anything in the papers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Down goes the Cunningham Ship posted Message 2263 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 30, 2003 at 14:32:20 Subject: Cunningham to be run out of town shortly The bond debacle is only the begining soon more information about the inability of Glenn to lead will be revealed as if you have not seen enough already. Goodbye Mr. Mayor next time they should elect a non-idiot ***************** End Of Article ****************** Can You Lend Me a Dime? posted Message 2264 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 30, 2003 at 16:47:17 Subject: Re: THE BOND BOMB KEEPS TICKING-BUDGET DEFICIT ALTERNATIVES TAXES, LAYOFFS If Mayor Cunningham plans to bond for operating expenses, good luck getting it past the DLGS. Bonding for operating expenses is a "no no" except in case of a fiscal year adjustment bond like McCann did in '91. The city can only bond for capital goods and improvements which can be depreciated over 7 years or more...ie Roads, Bridges, Buildings, Fire Trucks, etc. Bonding for operating expenses is a "no go" and Trenton would no doubt shoot it down. If anything in particular will bring this administration down...its the mishandling of the budget situation. And it just keeps getting worse. How about a round of applause for our cracker jack team of financial whiz kids??? : So much for the mayor man being a financial genius. His great plan is to borrow to pay for opreating expenses and hope something good happens in the mean time. Not one word as to how to cut spending or raise cash. That would require thought and some tough choices. Glenn was never able to do that. Stevie, your guy is cooked, stick a fork in him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2265 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 30, 2003 at 17:37:20 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired : :: I thought his hair & goatee made him look like a potential candidate for the lead in a revival of Damn Yankees. : : : Is it a coincidence that once Brian Dorf was fired that Cunningham has been on a winning streak? Hmmmm .. I believe someone is totally out of touch because Brian's hair and goatee are very nice and he wears them very well .. I do find your childish comments extremely immature and disgusting and hope your political campaign goes down the political pipes of Jersey really fast ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2266 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 30, 2003 at 17:40:24 Subject: Re: Recall the ignorant fool of a Mayor : The people must not be served by those that have no ability to think. I'm sure as a police officer Glenn served well but really a flatfoot as Mayor please we require someone that can dance a litttle tough times are coming flatfooted dimwits need not apply. Recall Glenn from the Mayors office and get that bloody fool Ayala a new truck. Hope this mayor's campaign goes down the political pipes of Jersey like real soon ***************** End Of Article ****************** Woolly Bully posted Message 2267 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 01, 2003 at 01:03:12 Subject: Happy Ending Some stories have them. This one does. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2268 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 01, 2003 at 15:00:10 Subject: Tonite on HCT. LaBelle & Fat Joe concert bill comes due the 64K question is....Who pays the 74K back?...JC DMV inspection station who knew about the closing?....Bayonne cops ride the rails as in lite rail....Who replaces Brian Stack as Freeholder? all this and more Monday night @ 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio ..Hudson County's Talking ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 2269 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 01, 2003 at 18:41:21 Subject: The show in a nutshell Who pays the $74K back? No matter how many ways you slice it...we will. JCDMV, who knew? Guaranteed the DMV knew months ago. We the taxpaying public are on a need to know basis only, much like when they started holding the public meetings before they renovated the Tonnelle/5th St area (we found out those plans were first put on the table 20years ago). Though I imagine the people who live in the immediate area will be delighted. Bayonne cops to ride light rail? I've seen some of them, it won't be a "light" rail for long! (Sorry, that was just staring me in the face.) Who replaces Brian Stack as Freeholder? Rudy Garcia? (snicker,snicker) ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 2270 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 01, 2003 at 18:42:49 Subject: Re: Happy Ending So, are you going to tell us the story? ***************** End Of Article ****************** James Nesfield posted Message 2271 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 01, 2003 at 19:22:18 Subject: What will Jersey City do for Taxes when DTC moves to Florida and all the jobs go to India? What will Jersey City do for Taxes when DTC moves to Florida and all the jobs go to India? The leaders of Jersey City if there are any better start to figure out how to attract business to the City and it better be good real good. The value added of being in a close proximity to lower Manhattan will vanish all the back-office jobs will be taken to India. So where are the tax dollars coming from, the answer nowhere in 2005. So refinance the debt and actually build an infrastructure that is world class so you can attract business and taxes. Jersey City needs to stop adding the corruption taxes now paid by business via the un-official network. The real world is competing for the same tax dollars and jobs remove the friction of corruption build the systems that sustains stop lining your pockets. The people need leadership with vision. What value is there in being in Jersey City besides being close to Manhattan? A good point to start would be to separate from Hudson County and form a new county. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Think About It posted Message 2272 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 01, 2003 at 22:05:52 Subject: Bush Visits Newark Do I have to Draw You A Picture ? ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** ???????????????? posted Message 2273 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 01, 2003 at 22:49:30 Subject: Re: Bush Visits Newark Yes you do cuz I ain't gettin it ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2274 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 02, 2003 at 02:41:49 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 2275 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 02, 2003 at 12:40:33 Subject: GAUGHAN, COUNCIL SAY THEY WANT HIGHER TAXES-LET THE GAMES BEGIN AND THE BOND WATCH CONTINUES sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2276 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 02, 2003 at 18:15:01 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show for December 1, 2003 To access the Online audio recording of the show, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2277 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 02, 2003 at 20:57:55 Subject: Re: Cunningham to be run out of town shortly : The bond debacle is only the begining soon more information about the inability of Glenn to lead will be revealed as if you have not seen enough already. Goodbye Mr. Mayor next time they should elect a non-idiot hmmm looks like this campaign is going down the political pipes of Jersey City fast ... ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 2278 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 03, 2003 at 07:51:02 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show for December 1, 2003 Oh happy, happy, joy, joy. I've been waiting all week for this moment. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rem posted Message 2279 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 03, 2003 at 08:37:15 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show for December 1, 2003 Oh joy, oh joy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2280 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 03, 2003 at 17:21:56 Subject: Re: WOW !!!! : Brian, if it is indeed you posting this, kudos to you for using your own name and fighting back. : I've not always agreed with your choice of employers. You might call Gerry McCann, Bob Janiszewski and Glenn Cunningham the rogues gallery of Hudson County politics. But to have someone bring up your dead brother is typical of the many low blows delivered in this forum. It is reprehensible. : The one thing I do agree with you on is Bill Ayala. The man is venal, two-faced and totally untrustworthy. He is a worthy chief of staff for one of the worst Administrations in Jersey City's history. Hey another hats off to Dorf for fighting back against these idiots who are slandering his great name .. For all you out of touch with things Dorf is a great guy and has a better head on his shoulders than the idiots who wrote that disgusting crap as well as bringing up personal and private stuff .. Glad to read what Dorf wrote some time back .... very eloquently put .. so from the voice of Dorf .. hope the campaign goes down the political pipes of Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2281 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 03, 2003 at 17:24:19 Subject: Re: Cunningham to be run out of town shortly : : The bond debacle is only the begining soon more information about the inability of Glenn to lead will be revealed as if you have not seen enough already. Goodbye Mr. Mayor next time they should elect a non-idiot : hmmm looks like this campaign is going down the political pipes of Jersey City fast ... Can't wait to see Cunningham run out of town .. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2282 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 03, 2003 at 17:26:13 Subject: Re: Vasectomy - Afterall he has no balls : Vasectomy - Afterall he has no balls - This was too easy... : : What Medical Procedure should we rename for Ayala? No brainer there .. the man has no balls .. the man is an idiot ... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 2283 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 03, 2003 at 22:46:21 Subject: Council says NO ? I heard the Council voted against the Cunningham Bond scheme tonite. Good for them if they did. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 2284 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 04, 2003 at 11:40:30 Subject: COUNCIL VOTES FOR LAYOFFS, HIGHER TAXES, FLUSHES $8.5 MILLION IN IMMEDIATE SAVINGS IN THE NAME OF “FISCAL RESPONSIBIITY” sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2285 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 04, 2003 at 12:02:49 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired : Is it a coincidence that once Brian Dorf was fired that Cunningham has been on a winning streak? I'd say Brian Dorf looks very fine ... the goatee and hair are very nice .. better than the idiot that wrote that comment and better than Cunningham and the other idiots too ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 2286 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 04, 2003 at 12:12:08 Subject: Fiscal Responsibility .. Throw da UTN bums out !! We can save the City money by laying off all the UTN staff people pulling down City salaries. Like Martin Jackson, Gloria Wilson, Gary Nye and Steve Glazer. Throw da bums out !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bergerman posted Message 2287 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 04, 2003 at 19:00:19 Subject: Re: Fiscal Responsibility .. Throw da UTN bums out !! Refinacing 2 years in a row is unsound financially. Doing it at a higher interest rate is dumb. Not paying any interest for 10 years is crazy. Hiring new people and doling out raises while this is happening should be criminal. Removing the city from the distressed cities program was dumb even for Cunningham.Watching Glenn disintegrate right before your eyes is priceless. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlandJustice posted Message 2288 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 04, 2003 at 19:12:19 Subject: The Keystone Council Strikes Back Hey Steve, keep ripping away at them, they'll fold. I think the whole mess is your fault. If you had libeled and slandered them better they would have rolled over. Remember, you catch more flies with vinegar than honey. So whats the next career stop loser. Revenge is a female dog ain't it Stevie. But please stay on the attack, I see them cracking real soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2289 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 04, 2003 at 19:18:44 Subject: Video: Mayor Cunningham Insists On Addressing The Council To view the Online Video, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ring dang doo posted Message 2290 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 04, 2003 at 19:23:45 Subject: Re: Fiscal Responsibility .. Throw da UTN bums out !! : Refinacing 2 years in a row is unsound financially. Says Who? Doing it at a higher interest rate is dumb. Not if it results in lower payments you can actually meet Not paying any interest for 10 years is crazy. You are crazy. Hiring new people and doling out raises while this is happening should be criminal. You are finally correct. Please look at hiring at the County since DeGise has been in office Removing the city from the distressed cities program was dumb even for Cunningham. Why is that? You obviously have a reason for saying this. Do you mind telling us what that is. Watching Glenn disintegrate right before your eyes is priceless. Depends where your sympathies lie. With the city and the people in it, or the people who want to rob it some more the way they used to before Glenn came to office? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Billie Bob posted Message 2291 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 04, 2003 at 19:29:11 Subject: Ayala-Political Firebug Watching the whole budget/bond show makes me think of a firebug. The guy who sets a fire, then calls the fire department to come put it out so he can be the hero who sounded the alarm. Ayala to the rescue. Nice going guy! Firebug! ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2292 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 04, 2003 at 20:54:17 Subject: Re: AYALA RULES : AYALA IS IN CHARGE OF THE WEBSITE. THAT BOY HAS ALL THE ANSWERS Oh boy ..yes there is something mentally and physically wrong with that boy .. I totally agree .. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2293 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 04, 2003 at 20:57:04 Subject: Re: Ayala Parade get in front and lead or get run over : : The line starts to the rear for the Ayala for Mayor Parade. No it is not official but what is in Hudsonland. A rumor is as good as a fact the only certain thing is you are being wire tapped and eventually will meet a Federal Agent at least one you know is. : And I will cheer the day when you are flushed from the political pipes of Jersey City. I will cheer and do back flips when you are flushed down the political pipes of jersey city ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bergerman posted Message 2294 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 04, 2003 at 22:32:13 Subject: Re: Fiscal Responsibility .. Throw da UTN bums out !! : : Refinacing 2 years in a row is unsound financially. : Says Who? : Doing it at a higher interest rate is dumb. : Not if it results in lower payments you can actually meet : Not paying any interest for 10 years is crazy. : You are crazy. : Hiring new people and doling out raises while this is happening should be criminal. : You are finally correct. Please look at hiring at the County since DeGise has been in office : Removing the city from the distressed cities program was dumb even for Cunningham. : Why is that? You obviously have a reason for saying this. Do you mind telling us what that is. : : Watching Glenn disintegrate right before your eyes is priceless. : Depends where your sympathies lie. With the city and the people in it, or the people who want to rob it some more the way they used to before Glenn came to office? Yo, you want some cheese with that whine? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Trying to make sense of it all posted Message 2295 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 05, 2003 at 07:54:35 Subject: We the people of Jersey City demand control of our destiny If refinancing is to happen and make any sense there is the issue of proper use of funds and a strategic plan going forward to insure the proper use of the funds. Refinance must be tied to other objectives or it is simply an empty barrel. Streamlining government, reducing the cost to deliver services, and insuring the jobs growth are some of those objectives. In order to streamline Jersey City must be a new county to itself the rest is simple. Now the restrictions the Hudson County government places on the city makes it nothing but a football in a weird game. By removing the Hudson County from Jersey City the taxes would go down, growth in housing both upper and lower would go up, and jobs would be created. Jersey City like other municipal structures across the nation must stop being a political subdivision and servant of rich suburban communities that manipulate them for their benefit. While the answer fiscally speaking is refinance the concern of proper use must be addressed. The City Council which has HCDO written all over it is trying to back Glenn into a corner aided by Ayala and others into raising taxes to avoid a short fall in debt servicing. This political game is unacceptable because most of the members of the Council do not have to live with the ramifications of their game especially those that live elsewhere and only have a titular residence in the city for political reasons. We the people of Jersey City demand control of our destiny ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2296 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 05, 2003 at 10:34:12 Subject: Two Month Stunt Senator Smith Hires THREE Children At Taxpayers' Expense N.J. could tighten ethics rules By Robert Moran and Kaitlin Gurney Inquirer Trenton Bureau TRENTON - L. Harvey Smith was sworn in as a New Jersey state senator last week, and one of his first official acts was to put three of his children on the state payroll. Smith (D., Hudson) was indulging in a time-honored Statehouse custom - 18 fellow legislators also have hired relatives, at state salaries ranging from $500 to $55,000. But what passes as tradition in New Jersey is illegal in other states, and legislators here have decided it may be time for a change. . . . Smith is serving just two months to fill a vacancy - the previous officeholder became a judge - before he is replaced by Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham. He said he hired his children for his district office because it was difficult to get anyone else to work for such a short period. He said he would support a nepotism ban - and somberly noted that his actions might appear to contradict him. "I feel like I'm saying one thing and doing something else," he said. ### To read the complete piece, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Slap Happy posted Message 2297 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 05, 2003 at 10:43:28 Subject: Re: Two Month Stunt Senator Smith Hires THREE Children At Taxpayers' Expense Hey, leave off! Youse guys ain't treatin' Senator Smitty fair! Considerin' the number of kids he got roamin' about, it's just ODDS that he puts up a HELP WANTED sign an' three winds up rollin' on in! : N.J. could tighten ethics rules : By Robert Moran and Kaitlin Gurney : Inquirer Trenton Bureau : TRENTON - L. Harvey Smith was sworn in as a New Jersey state senator last week, and one of his first official acts was to put three of his children on the state payroll. : Smith (D., Hudson) was indulging in a time-honored Statehouse custom - 18 fellow legislators also have hired relatives, at state salaries ranging from $500 to $55,000. : But what passes as tradition in New Jersey is illegal in other states, and legislators here have decided it may be time for a change. : . . . : Smith is serving just two months to fill a vacancy - the previous officeholder became a judge - before he is replaced by Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham. : He said he hired his children for his district office because it was difficult to get anyone else to work for such a short period. : He said he would support a nepotism ban - and somberly noted that his actions might appear to contradict him. "I feel like I'm saying one thing and doing something else," he said. : ### : To read the complete piece, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2298 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 05, 2003 at 14:33:50 Subject: Harvey Smith and Kin to be a topic on this week's Reporters' Roundtable? That's the rumor. Check the Link for the NJN schedule. You might also want to watch NJN News on Ch. 13 at 5:30PM on Friday. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another Menendez Stooge posted Message 2299 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 05, 2003 at 21:48:25 Subject: Harvey's Actions Prove he is A REAL PIG Hogging State jobs for three of his kids as soon as he is sworn into the temporary Senate positiion - UNBELIEVABLE ! Greedy Harvey trying to grab anything that is not nailed down - what a disgrace. I hear he wants to be like the rest of his City Council Voting Bloc and get on the county payroll also -- WHAT A PIG ! Menendez is behind all of this ! : N.J. could tighten ethics rules : By Robert Moran and Kaitlin Gurney : Inquirer Trenton Bureau : TRENTON - L. Harvey Smith was sworn in as a New Jersey state senator last week, and one of his first official acts was to put three of his children on the state payroll. : Smith (D., Hudson) was indulging in a time-honored Statehouse custom - 18 fellow legislators also have hired relatives, at state salaries ranging from $500 to $55,000. : But what passes as tradition in New Jersey is illegal in other states, and legislators here have decided it may be time for a change. : . . . : Smith is serving just two months to fill a vacancy - the previous officeholder became a judge - before he is replaced by Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham. : He said he hired his children for his district office because it was difficult to get anyone else to work for such a short period. : He said he would support a nepotism ban - and somberly noted that his actions might appear to contradict him. "I feel like I'm saying one thing and doing something else," he said. : ### : To read the complete piece, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknwn posted Message 2300 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 05, 2003 at 21:49:21 Subject: Re: why dorf was fired : i worked with dorf. he's not a bad guy, he stepped where he didn't belong and attempted to make peace with the north. so he was labeled a traitor for it. and actually, he survived thru more transitions than any other pr director in jc history. guess he did his job. and if you knew your history you would have remembered it was the mayors who kept getting "fired" not the pr guy. he was a survivor. : : Wasn't he fired by more Hudson politico's than anyone in history? Dorf is a great pr guy .. he has a great head on his shoulders .. and i am sure he will be very successful in whatever he pursues .. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer , Urban Times News posted Message 2301 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 06, 2003 at 07:45:38 Subject: JERSEY CITY BOND RATINGS AT RISK WITHOUT DEBT RESTRUCTURING The Bond Watch Continues… ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2302 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 06, 2003 at 10:44:41 Subject: Re: why dorf was fired : : i worked with dorf. he's not a bad guy, he stepped where he didn't belong and attempted to make peace with the north. so he was labeled a traitor for it. and actually, he survived thru more transitions than any other pr director in jc history. guess he did his job. and if you knew your history you would have remembered it was the mayors who kept getting "fired" not the pr guy. he was a survivor. : : : Wasn't he fired by more Hudson politico's than anyone in history? : Dorf is a great pr guy .. he has a great head on his shoulders .. and i am sure he will be very successful in whatever he pursues .. Dorf's work is quality. He is a great PR man. He is a people person and a great writer. He is a real class act! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Real Self Centered Opportunist posted Message 2303 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 06, 2003 at 11:15:44 Subject: Harvey Hogs Jobs for His Kids Harvey the HOG - Trying to Personally Gain at any chance he gets. Thank God he is only the interim Senator. : Hogging State jobs for three of his kids as soon as he is sworn into the temporary Senate positiion - UNBELIEVABLE ! : Greedy Harvey trying to grab anything that is not nailed down - what a disgrace. : I hear he wants to be like the rest of his City Council Voting Bloc and get on the county payroll also -- WHAT A PIG ! : Menendez is behind all of this ! : : : N.J. could tighten ethics rules : : By Robert Moran and Kaitlin Gurney : : Inquirer Trenton Bureau : : TRENTON - L. Harvey Smith was sworn in as a New Jersey state senator last week, and one of his first official acts was to put three of his children on the state payroll. : : Smith (D., Hudson) was indulging in a time-honored Statehouse custom - 18 fellow legislators also have hired relatives, at state salaries ranging from $500 to $55,000. : : But what passes as tradition in New Jersey is illegal in other states, and legislators here have decided it may be time for a change. : : . . . : : Smith is serving just two months to fill a vacancy - the previous officeholder became a judge - before he is replaced by Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham. : : He said he hired his children for his district office because it was difficult to get anyone else to work for such a short period. : : He said he would support a nepotism ban - and somberly noted that his actions might appear to contradict him. "I feel like I'm saying one thing and doing something else," he said. : : ### : : To read the complete piece, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** What a crock! posted Message 2304 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 06, 2003 at 13:12:45 Subject: Re: JERSEY CITY BOND RATINGS AT RISK WITHOUT DEBT RESTRUCTURING : The Bond Watch Continues… This coming from a guy who was driven from Wall St. with a stick. Tell everybody about your financial background Stevie.The exact oppsite is true. The City's bond rating is lower than the state's, so why won't the State insure this issuance? Because they don't want the risk or a lowering of their rating. How's the wife and kids doin? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BA / BS Detector posted Message 2305 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 06, 2003 at 15:05:39 Subject: Another idiotic response from the Chief of Staff Ayala, you're an idiot. If you hadn't interferred in the first place, Carlton would had the deal done months ago. And since interest rates have risen a full point in the past 30-days, YOU have cost taxpayers MILLIONS. Nice job Billy. The problem is that you think you actually have something to contribute....what a joke. Just another Cunningham Kool-Aid Thug in over his head. Gonna try to blame this debacle on Schuldner too? That is gettin old. Just do us all a favor an slither back under the rock you came out from. : : The Bond Watch Continues… : This coming from a guy who was driven from Wall St. with a stick. Tell everybody about your financial background Stevie.The exact oppsite is true. The City's bond rating is lower than the state's, so why won't the State insure this issuance? Because they don't want the risk or a lowering of their rating. How's the wife and kids doin? ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2306 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 06, 2003 at 18:11:34 Subject: Re: Don't insult parasites : Brian "Dorfed" up the administration for a year. Whoever wrote that above comment "Brian 'Dorfed' up the administration for a year" is so very wrong ... I believe the Ayala screwed up ...Brian Dorf is a great PR man and knows how to run a successful campaign. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2307 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 06, 2003 at 18:15:54 Subject: Re: Check your spelling!!!! : I object to the harsh tone used against "parasites" : First, how hard can it be to use spell check! : Second, comparing Parasites (who are a valuable part of the world's ecology) to Brian Dorf, is offensive to Parasites. We need to distinguish between a necessary organism in Nature's food chain from Brian Dorf for which there is no justification. : He got fired, drives around in a corvette, and lives off of his daddy. : And think of this. Of all the real winners down in City Hall, Dorf is the only one to manange to get himself fired. : And yes, the Cunningham Team has been on a big winning streak since he was canned. I don't think Dorf managed to get himself fired .. I think someone set him up .. He is too much of a great PR man. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anthony Russo Civic Assoc posted Message 2308 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 07, 2003 at 05:17:35 Subject: Russo's swearing in Party Councilman Michael Russo with Castellano, Campos, and Soares ***************** End Of Article ****************** Smith is an idiot. posted Message 2309 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 07, 2003 at 08:24:00 Subject: Re: Two Month Stunt Senator Smith Hires THREE Children At Taxpayers' Expense Harvey you couldn't find anyone to hire besides family? What about Don Howard, Mary Finn and numerous others who were available and more quailified. Your true colors come out each day ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2310 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 07, 2003 at 09:19:23 Subject: Re: Poor Management due to a closed mind : Ayala thinks he knows it all he is the master of the universe. The reality is the man is a dunce, a dullard, and generally unfit to walk dogs. Yet the mayor (Mayor Cunningham) continues to listen to this long haul truck driver on matters that are complex and require some area of expertise. If I want a good delivery on a carton I'll call Ayala but he should not be making policy in the arbitary manner he does. This is a Western : Society where critical thinking is required not some third world nation where those with the power rule regardless of their ability to make informed choices. It is after all the government by the PEOPLE for the PEOPLE and should serve the PEOPLE. While HCDO was designed to steal funds from the public the current mayor's adminstration is designed to statisfy some closed idea of a moment in the sun. Ward F should be better served the dreams of a Mayor for all the people must be realized. Stop Cunningham unless he changes his ways. This mudslinging is just disgusting and immature ... Leave Dorf alone .. He is a great guy and excellent pr man .. It is Ayala and Cunningham that are disgusting and so wrong ***************** End Of Article ****************** Earson posted Message 2311 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 07, 2003 at 10:36:53 Subject: Re: Russo's swearing in Party Where is Mayor-Man? Cunningham missed a photo opp.......Stanley! ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2312 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 07, 2003 at 11:52:19 Subject: Re: Two Month Stunt Senator Smith Hires THREE Children At Taxpayers' Expense : Harvey you couldn't find anyone to hire besides family? : What about Don Howard, Mary Finn and numerous others who were available and more quailified. : Your true colors come out each day ! Jack finn would have been a great choice. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I hate communist posted Message 2313 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 07, 2003 at 18:13:11 Subject: ALL DEMOCRATS ARE COMMUNIST Regardless if its Glenn or the HCDO they are all Communist they steal from the people and fill their own pockets toss them all out of office run them out of the state. I do not propose violence but rather the concepts of freedom from having municipal funds stolen by any elected official. I do not care who butters their bread at the expense of the people it is wrong and must be stamped out. All the services that never get delivered in particular the schools they all the DEMOCRATS STEAL FROM THE PEOPLE JUST LIKE STALIN. Steal no more and elect someone who will not. The refinancing is only a cover to ease the minds of voters or as the pinkos say useful idiots. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2314 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 07, 2003 at 20:51:50 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired : : :: I thought his hair & goatee made him look like a potential candidate for the lead in a revival of Damn Yankees. : : : : : Is it a coincidence that once Brian Dorf was fired that Cunningham has been on a winning streak? : Hmmmm .. I believe someone is totally out of touch because Brian's hair and goatee are very nice and he wears them very well .. I do find your childish comments extremely immature and disgusting and hope your political campaign goes down the political pipes of Jersey really fast I believe Ayala looks like a weezel .. he is such an idiot ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tail Gunner Joe posted Message 2315 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 07, 2003 at 22:42:52 Subject: THE RED MENACE It's hard to believe neanderthal McCarthyite's like you still exist. Oh well, at least you're good for a few laughs. If you hadn't noticed, the Democrats came to power in a free election. I guess there just aren't enough of you Real Americans out there. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2316 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 07, 2003 at 22:45:22 Subject: Nope No mention of Smith that I heard. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tail Gunner Joe was a Hero with bad methods posted Message 2317 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 08, 2003 at 17:11:10 Subject: Re: THE RED MENACE Well Tail Gunner Joe was right but his method for removing State Department Socialist was wrong. As it stands now the Secretary of State is not allowed to remove an employee from the State Department that is done by an eight person board all composed of Georgetown University Grads and Career Service Officers. The issue is that many of the teaching and ideas proposed by Marx and others are being put in place by mostly the Democrats but some Republicans. Eventually we have the same system as if it where a Communist Regime whereby all the resources are used and abused by those that are elected. One thing to think about is the Former Soviet Union had elections and so do many depostic regimes. The truth is the government has too much power and uses that power to enrich its particpants rather than actually deliver the services as stated. The great Communist Plot Tail Gunner Joe spoke of is upon us and it walks the halls of power with a party affiliation of Democrat freely elected by idiots that appreciate being stolen from. : It's hard to believe neanderthal McCarthyite's like you still exist. Oh well, at least you're good for a few laughs. : If you hadn't noticed, the Democrats came to power in a free election. I guess there just aren't enough of you Real Americans out there. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Snake In The Desert posted Message 2318 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 08, 2003 at 18:13:16 Subject: Baghdad On The Hudson DEMOCRATIC LEADER: SENATE PANEL MADE PROGRESS ON ETHICS REFORM TRENTON - Democratic Senate Leader Bernard F. Kenny Jr. said the Senate State Government Committee made progess today on legislative ethics reform even though it officially released just one bill - a ban on gifts to lawmakers - on its agenda. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2319 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 08, 2003 at 18:49:15 Subject: Tonites topics on HCT. Cunningham, the council and revolution, Senator. L Harvey Smith and family go to Trenton, Schundler sightings, snow storm, all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking ***************** End Of Article ****************** Snake In The Dessert posted Message 2320 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 08, 2003 at 19:01:49 Subject: Senator Smitty's Finest Hour? I just can't wait to hear what Senator Smitty's got to say about NEPOTISM! : DEMOCRATIC LEADER: SENATE PANEL MADE PROGRESS ON ETHICS REFORM : TRENTON - Democratic Senate Leader Bernard F. Kenny Jr. said the Senate State Government Committee made progess today on legislative ethics reform even though it officially released just one bill - a ban on gifts to lawmakers - on its agenda. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No Bond issue cut spending posted Message 2321 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 08, 2003 at 19:24:05 Subject: Why Refinance it is an excuse to over spend Refinance why should that may any difference since the Cunningham Regime continues to over spend look at the expensive pet he keep around yes the lap dog Ayala. I think Glenn put him in the rear window of his car so his head will keep bobbing up and down it keeps the springs oiled. Glenn needs to learn how to cut the fat out of the Jersey City budget and make sure he can service the debt that is already out there rather than refinancing. Bond holders will be mad at any refinancing and the market will reject any further issues put out by the city. The answer is do nothing and continue to service the debt as is and cut the fat from the budget. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Man on the moon posted Message 2322 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 08, 2003 at 19:53:12 Subject: Re: SenatorCon-Man Cunninghams's Finest Hour? And they Same for Glenn Cunningham! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO HATES PAT TOO posted Message 2323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 08, 2003 at 22:14:55 Subject: Pat Trying To Bilk County Pat is trying to bilk the County coffers - charging for advertising on his lame radio show. LMFAO YET they won't process his vouchers -- ROFLMFAO DePuppet is screwing Pat !!! : Cunningham, the council and revolution, Senator. L Harvey Smith and family go to Trenton, Schundler sightings, snow storm, all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking ***************** End Of Article ****************** VPR1 posted Message 2324 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 09, 2003 at 08:00:07 Subject: L. Harvey Smith says.... "I feel like I am saying one thing and doing another." Why is that? TRENTON - L. Harvey Smith was sworn in as a New Jersey state senator last week, and one of his first official acts was to put three of his children on the state payroll. Smith (D., Hudson) was indulging in a time-honored Statehouse custom - 18 fellow legislators also have hired relatives, at state salaries ranging from $500 to $55,000. But what passes as tradition in New Jersey is illegal in other states, and legislators here have decided it may be time for a change. . . . Smith is serving just two months to fill a vacancy - the previous officeholder became a judge - before he is replaced by Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham. He said he hired his children for his district office because it was difficult to get anyone else to work for such a short period. He said he would support a nepotism ban - and somberly noted that his actions might appear to contradict him. "I feel like I'm saying one thing and doing something else," he said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harry Truman posted Message 2325 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 09, 2003 at 13:04:09 Subject: Harvey is a ... sob.. but he's our sob !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 09, 2003 at 13:39:14 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show: 12/08/03 To access the Online audio, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wucci posted Message 2327 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 09, 2003 at 13:42:10 Subject: A lioness fights for her cubs Smitty has gone and beat Chicky O'reilly at her own game. SHE EVEN ONLY GOT TWO KIDS JOBS! : "I feel like I am saying one thing and doing another." Why is that? : TRENTON - L. Harvey Smith was sworn in as a New Jersey state senator last week, and one of his first official acts was to put three of his children on the state payroll. : Smith (D., Hudson) was indulging in a time-honored Statehouse custom - 18 fellow legislators also have hired relatives, at state salaries ranging from $500 to $55,000. : But what passes as tradition in New Jersey is illegal in other states, and legislators here have decided it may be time for a change. : . . . : Smith is serving just two months to fill a vacancy - the previous officeholder became a judge - before he is replaced by Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham. : He said he hired his children for his district office because it was difficult to get anyone else to work for such a short period. : He said he would support a nepotism ban - and somberly noted that his actions might appear to contradict him. "I feel like I'm saying one thing and doing something else," he said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Riding the Erie posted Message 2328 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 09, 2003 at 14:04:52 Subject: Re: A lioness fights for her cubs I remember my father (a born-and-bred Jersey Cityite if there ever was one) commenting on that one: A POLITICIAN THAT DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILY IS NOTHING BUT A SKUNK! : Smitty has gone and beat Chicky O'reilly at her own game. SHE EVEN ONLY GOT TWO KIDS JOBS! : : "I feel like I am saying one thing and doing another." Why is that? : : TRENTON - L. Harvey Smith was sworn in as a New Jersey state senator last week, and one of his first official acts was to put three of his children on the state payroll. : : Smith (D., Hudson) was indulging in a time-honored Statehouse custom - 18 fellow legislators also have hired relatives, at state salaries ranging from $500 to $55,000. : : But what passes as tradition in New Jersey is illegal in other states, and legislators here have decided it may be time for a change. : : . . . : : Smith is serving just two months to fill a vacancy - the previous officeholder became a judge - before he is replaced by Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham. : : He said he hired his children for his district office because it was difficult to get anyone else to work for such a short period. : : He said he would support a nepotism ban - and somberly noted that his actions might appear to contradict him. "I feel like I'm saying one thing and doing something else," he said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 2329 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 09, 2003 at 14:14:05 Subject: DEFICIT TO GROW EACH YEAR WITHOUT RESTRUCTURING-BOND RATINGS DROP-INTEREST RATES INCREASING-COUNCIL CLUELESS- BOND WATCH CONTINUES DEFICIT TO GROW EACH YEAR WITHOUT RESTRUCTURING-BOND RATINGS DROP-INTEREST RATES INCREASING-COUNCIL CLUELESS- BOND WATCH CONTINUES ***************** End Of Article ****************** NAACP, Jersey City Branch posted Message 2330 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 09, 2003 at 16:27:02 Subject: Tuesday Press Conference: HCDO Tried to Stop Minorities From Voting Jersey City NAACP Press Conference: HCDO Tried to Stop Minorities From Voting ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ring Lardner posted Message 2331 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 09, 2003 at 17:11:56 Subject: Re: DEFICIT TO GROW EACH YEAR WITHOUT RESTRUCTURING-BOND RATINGS DROP-INTEREST RATES INCREASING-COUNCIL CLUELESS- BOND WATCH CONTINUES : DEFICIT TO GROW EACH YEAR WITHOUT RESTRUCTURING-BOND RATINGS DROP-INTEREST RATES INCREASING-COUNCIL CLUELESS- BOND WATCH CONTINUES Wow, what an insightful and well researched article by the boy wonder of the UTN. Somehow he unearthed comments from " A seasoned Wall Street veteran", "LFB officials" "finance officials", "an official who refused to be named" and "one investment banker". The only one missing was "reliable sources".The truth is the Mayor made a fool of himself by ordering this group to go before the Council tomorrow and then gave them a copy of the Mayor-Man comic and left before questions could be asked. You're the best Stevie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Show Gun posted Message 2332 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 09, 2003 at 20:08:05 Subject: Re: DEFICIT TO GROW EACH YEAR WITHOUT RESTRUCTURING-BOND RATINGS DROP-INTEREST RATES INCREASING-COUNCIL CLUELESS- BOND WATCH CONTINUES : : DEFICIT TO GROW EACH YEAR WITHOUT RESTRUCTURING-BOND RATINGS DROP-INTEREST RATES INCREASING-COUNCIL CLUELESS- BOND WATCH CONTINUES : Wow, what an insightful and well researched article by the boy wonder of the UTN. Somehow he unearthed comments from " A seasoned Wall Street veteran", "LFB officials" "finance officials", "an official who refused to be named" and "one investment banker". The only one missing was "reliable sources".The truth is the Mayor made a fool of himself by ordering this group to go before the Council tomorrow and then gave them a copy of the Mayor-Man comic and left before questions could be asked. You're the best Stevie. You mean that Stevie is wrong and that deficits will not be larger in later years like boy wonder writes? Do you know something the rest of us do not? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Racist Tayari posted Message 2333 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 10, 2003 at 08:30:24 Subject: Re: Tuesday Press Conference: HCDO Tried to Stop Minorities From Voting : Jersey City NAACP Press Conference: HCDO Tried to Stop Minorities From Voting What a joke. There is no bigger racist in the City than Kabili Tayari. The man reeks hatred. Another good reason to dump Mayor Man. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez is too ! posted Message 2334 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 10, 2003 at 10:12:53 Subject: PIG ! : sob.. but he's our sob !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2335 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 10, 2003 at 14:45:53 Subject: Charts to Illustrate NAACP Complaint : Jersey City NAACP Press Conference: HCDO Tried to Stop Minorities From Voting ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City NAACP posted Message 2336 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 10, 2003 at 17:22:02 Subject: NAACP Press Statement : Jersey City NAACP Press Conference: HCDO Tried to Stop Minorities From Voting ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Wonder About It All posted Message 2337 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 10, 2003 at 23:59:24 Subject: Ayala - Duh? I've heard a lot lately about this guy Bill Ayala and how he's screwed up so many things in Jersey City. I heard he blew the refinancing of the City's bond debt by sitting on his hands when the rates were at their lowest a couple months ago. Apparently he kept the Biz Admin from going ahead with the deal. I hear he's crashed city cars and harassed female workers. I was also told he started the on-going feud with the Congressman and the others in the north. And the one time I met him at a city function he seemed like a cold fish...no personality to speak of. What I can't figure out is why Cunningham would keep such a loser around. Can anyone give me some insight? I heard he used to drive big rigs or something. Maybe someone ought to find him a job and send him packing. Does he have something on Mayor Man? Some inside info or something? Otherwise it just don't make any sense that he would be kept around. This guy seems like such a loser...it just doesn't add up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aneesah posted Message 2338 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 11, 2003 at 10:03:17 Subject: Re: Tuesday Press Conference: HCDO Tried to Stop Minorities From Voting : : Jersey City NAACP Press Conference: HCDO Tried to Stop Minorities From Voting : What a joke. There is no bigger racist in the City than Kabili Tayari. The man reeks hatred. Another good reason to dump Mayor Man. The Mayor have nothing to do with what Kabili is doing, I say it's about time the NAACP is doing something. ***************** End Of Article ****************** This aint' Kansas Dorothy! posted Message 2339 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 11, 2003 at 13:47:54 Subject: Re: Tuesday Press Conference: HCDO Tried to Stop Minorities From Voting O' PLEAAAAAAASE! WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM ANEESAH! THIS WHOLE THING HAS BOBBY JOE AND THE MAYOR WRITTEN ALL OVER IT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2340 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 11, 2003 at 16:15:10 Subject: Goldman Sachs Supports Cunningham Bond Restructuring Plan Goldman Sachs Supports Cunningham Bond Restructuring Plan ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens, The Urban Times News posted Message 2341 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 11, 2003 at 16:33:06 Subject: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" The Urban Times News Jay Stevens--email:jstevens@urbantimesnews.com Gift Horses You would think that these days with government cutbacks, budget cuts and what have you, local governments would be glad to accept gifts when and where they could be had. Right now, there are two bizarre situations where strapped-for-cash local governments are desperately fighting off gifts from well-intentioned, but apparently misguided donors. One is here in Hoboken where a well-established developer is menacing the city with the threat of a waterfront park at his own expense and none to the City. Another thug, this one an internationally recognized artist, is trying to force a gift of $10 Million on the beleaguered and nearly defenseless and hapless city. Somebody do something! Over in Hoboken, developer Sandy Weiss, head of Manhattan builders took it upon himself to offer the city a 20,000 square foot waterfront park, a sculpture garden. In his unbridled and shameless arrogance, the ruthless Weiss has threatened to pay the entire expense of the park. Naturally, the citizens have fought back as best they could, but the outcome, still hanging in doubt, is unclear. The forces of evil will probably prevail and crush the resistance. Weiss, a successful developer whose company has just been acquired by a NYSE company, Toll Brothers, is determined and has major backing. And the citizens, an unpaid, ragtag volunteer political militia group are no match for the developer, determined at all costs to give something back to the city where he has done so well. We can only wish them well in their valiant effort to stave off this heinous enhancement. Very coincidentally, over in Jersey City, and at the same time a similar scenario is playing out. There the villain is a Russian artist. It is not Boris Badenov. His name is Zorab Tsereteli. He has conned the Russian government to fund his construction of a monumental and heroic Icon to commemorate 9/11. His plan is to construct a 100-foot tall monument, entirely free of cost to the city of Jersey City. Right now Jersey City does not have two nickels to rub together. Yet the city wanted to do something to commemorate 9/11. While the city was in the throes of casting about for a solution Tsereteli struck. The Russian artist, taking advantage of Jersey City’s weakness, made an irresistible offer to the city of free design, construction, installation and even a feasibility study. Try desperately as they might, city officials cannot seem to come up with a valid argument that the dastardly Ruski cannot answer. He has even paid the entire expense of a major engineering firm to trouble shoot the entire proposal, much to the chagrin of opponents to the plan. The insidious foreigner even seems to have anticipated many of the objections in advance and has prepared answers to every objection throw up before his representatives. But do not despair. Our public officials are infinitely resourceful and will no doubt find a way to kill this deal. O, ye of little faith, trust upon thine public servants. If there is a way to screw this up they will find a way. That way, we the taxpayers, already deeply gouged and gored, can once again dip in our pockets and pay for somebody to cast about for an artist who has constructed heroic monuments the world over, like this the unconscionable Tsereteli. With luck, our representatives could persuade the artist when found to accept a commission for a work suitable to the place and occasion as this miscreant has. Only this time, with good fortune, we could persuade the artist to accept several million dollars for the work. The Russian government has paid for this monument for us. If we go it alone, we will also have to pay a few million for site work and installation. Tsereteli has arranged for all that. Naturally we will fight tooth and nail to resist him. We will get an artist of our choosing, and pay ourselves. You gotta love it here. Yaacov Smirnov was right when he said, “What a Country!” ***************** End Of Article ****************** VPER posted Message 2342 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 11, 2003 at 16:59:48 Subject: Re: Tuesday Press Conference: HCDO Tried to Stop Minorities From Voting : O' PLEAAAAAAASE! WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM ANEESAH! : THIS WHOLE THING HAS BOBBY JOE AND THE MAYOR WRITTEN ALL OVER IT. Does that mean it is OK to try to stop people from voting? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Civil Suit posted Message 2343 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 11, 2003 at 17:27:16 Subject: Re: Tuesday Press Conference: HCDO Tried to Stop Minorities From Voting Ask McCann and Jackson. They are the leaders in that field. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Do not Refinance cut the fat posted Message 2344 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 11, 2003 at 20:28:25 Subject: Now Goldman Sachs is for sale what a surprise Basically Goldman Sachs pays bribes to Jersey City in order to get what they want. If a non-tenant had produced the letter a conflict of interest might be avoided. Since no one has any particular plan as to why there will be a short fall and no cuts in spending then nothing should be done. The Refinance Efforts is a scandal the city should cut the budget save some money. A rising interest rate has some good aspects you can buy bonds with low coupons out at below par. Now they want to jump the gun against rising interest rates. Tell me how on earth do you know what interest rates will be? The answer is cut the fat out of City Government. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cunningham will raise taxes posted Message 2345 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 11, 2003 at 20:31:19 Subject: Cunningham needs to increase taxes and cut spending With all the political operatives of Glenn and the HCDO taking money hand over fist to put in their own pockets maybe they can make up the short fall in revenues via taxes and the budget. The real solution is fire everyone except the Police and Fire. ***************** End Of Article ****************** VPER posted Message 2346 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 11, 2003 at 20:32:58 Subject: Re: Now Goldman Sachs is for sale what a surprise...Thank God somebody knows what to do : Basically Goldman Sachs pays bribes to Jersey City in order to get what they want. If a non-tenant had produced the letter a conflict of interest might be avoided. Since no one has any particular plan as to why there will be a short fall and no cuts in spending then nothing should be done. The Refinance Efforts is a scandal the city should cut the budget save some money. A rising interest rate has some good aspects you can buy bonds with low coupons out at below par. Now they want to jump the gun against rising interest rates. Tell me how on earth do you know what interest rates will be? The answer is cut the fat out of City Government. Lucky for us we have you. Goldman Sachs...what do they know about finance? But with you and Bill Gaughan to advise us we can all sleep soundly. What a relief... ***************** End Of Article ****************** City Officials would work for nothing the bribes could cover their cost posted Message 2347 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 11, 2003 at 20:33:44 Subject: I suggest all the City Officials work for nothing Since it is well known that everyone at a certain level in the City and Hudson County take bribes then let them work for no salary and let them live on the bribes they now get. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Disgusted posted Message 2348 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 12, 2003 at 10:31:08 Subject: Typical AYALA Today's Jersey Journal Editorial is right on target, except for one point. The JJ is RIGHT with regard to the current budget crisis, that confrontation will not lead to compromise and accomodation. The JJ is RIGHT that the Mayor MUST work with the City Council to forge a compromise regarding refinancing of city debt. The JJ is RIGHT that threats of layoffs and financial collapse are unwarranted and counter-productive. Where the JJ is off base is in laying the blame squarely on the shoulders of the Mayor alone. It is unfortunate that Cunningham's CHIEF OF STAFF Bill Ayala acts like a junk yard dog rather than the diplomat necessary at this time of fisacal belt-tightening. Good faith dealings build trust and lead to compromise when things get tough. Respect for elected officials at every level of government and for all interested parties provides for a foundation of good faith and conciliation. As is so well stated in the Jersey Journal Editorial today, the kind of "demonizing and fingerpointing (instigated and perpetrated by Bill Ayala) are not conducive to developing a working relationship." Their only error is not recognizing that the current gutter-level discourse is a result of the low-brow approach of the Mayor's Chief of Staff, and will continue until there is a change at the upper levels of this administration. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2349 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 12, 2003 at 11:36:38 Subject: Re: Ayala - Duh? : I've heard a lot lately about this guy Bill Ayala and how he's screwed up so many things in Jersey City. : I heard he blew the refinancing of the City's bond debt by sitting on his hands when the rates were at their lowest a couple months ago. Apparently he kept the Biz Admin from going ahead with the deal. : I hear he's crashed city cars and harassed female workers. I was also told he started the on-going feud with the Congressman and the others in the north. And the one time I met him at a city function he seemed like a cold fish...no personality to speak of. : What I can't figure out is why Cunningham would keep such a loser around. Can anyone give me some insight? I heard he used to drive big rigs or something. Maybe someone ought to find him a job and send him packing. Does he have something on Mayor Man? Some inside info or something? Otherwise it just don't make any sense that he would be kept around. This guy seems like such a loser...it just doesn't add up. so you were wondering about this guy Ayala. Ayala is a loser and an idiot. He has posted many false comments on this board that make me as well as many others disgusted with his childish tactics. But we are better than he is ... he is an immature disgusting and gross man. He will no doubt destroy this campaign not to mention all the damage he has done already. In time he will soon go down the political pipes of Jersey City hopefully soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Disgusted too posted Message 2350 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 12, 2003 at 11:38:38 Subject: Re: Typical AYALA : Today's Jersey Journal Editorial is right on target, except for one point. The JJ is RIGHT with regard to the current budget crisis, that confrontation will not lead to compromise and accomodation. The JJ is RIGHT that the Mayor MUST work with the City Council to forge a compromise regarding refinancing of city debt. The JJ is RIGHT that threats of layoffs and financial collapse are unwarranted and counter-productive. : Where the JJ is off base is in laying the blame squarely on the shoulders of the Mayor alone. It is unfortunate that Cunningham's CHIEF OF STAFF Bill Ayala acts like a junk yard dog rather than the diplomat necessary at this time of fisacal belt-tightening. : Good faith dealings build trust and lead to compromise when things get tough. Respect for elected officials at every level of government and for all interested parties provides for a foundation of good faith and conciliation. : As is so well stated in the Jersey Journal Editorial today, the kind of "demonizing and fingerpointing (instigated and perpetrated by Bill Ayala) are not conducive to developing a working relationship." Their only error is not recognizing that the current gutter-level discourse is a result of the low-brow approach of the Mayor's Chief of Staff, and will continue until there is a change at the upper levels of this administration. Disgusted too and agree 100% with this eloquently put message. ***************** End Of Article ****************** disgusted posted Message 2351 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 12, 2003 at 13:35:04 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired : : :: I thought his hair & goatee made him look like a potential candidate for the lead in a revival of Damn Yankees. : : : : : Is it a coincidence that once Brian Dorf was fired that Cunningham has been on a winning streak? : Hmmmm .. I believe someone is totally out of touch because Brian's hair and goatee are very nice and he wears them very well .. I do find your childish comments extremely immature and disgusting and hope your political campaign goes down the political pipes of Jersey really fast I believe the childish and disgusting remarks made about Brian Dorf's appearance are just typical of the childish behavior that Ayala and all the other idiots pathetic losers that are on this campaign. From what I see, Brian Dorf is an utmost professional classy guy with a great look and great mind. His hair and goatee make him a very handsome and distinguished gentleman. He is sharp, independent, a great writer, and very professional. I hope that Ayala will soon go down the political pipes of jersey city ... ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2352 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 12, 2003 at 20:25:52 Subject: Re: Another idiotic response from the Chief of Staff : : Ayala, you're an idiot. If you hadn't interferred in the first place, Carlton would had the deal done months ago. And since interest rates have risen a full point in the past 30-days, YOU have cost taxpayers MILLIONS. Nice job Billy. The problem is that you think you actually have something to contribute....what a joke. Just another Cunningham Kool-Aid Thug in over his head. Gonna try to blame this debacle on Schuldner too? That is gettin old. Just do us all a favor an slither back under the rock you came out from. : : : : The Bond Watch Continues… : : This coming from a guy who was driven from Wall St. with a stick. Tell everybody about your financial background Stevie.The exact oppsite is true. The City's bond rating is lower than the state's, so why won't the State insure this issuance? Because they don't want the risk or a lowering of their rating. How's the wife and kids doin? This guy Ayala is such an idiot and a loser. Can't wait to see him out. Why would anyone want to work with him? Get out of here Ayala!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO Controls the Council and Cunningham is a meathead posted Message 2353 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 12, 2003 at 20:42:21 Subject: HCDO and Cunningham are both idiots The reason the Council is fighting Cunningham is he is cutting into their bribes. Both groups of boneheads should be thrown out office the savings on salaries and graft would sve the people a small fortune. How can anyone judge the truth about refinancing when the books are cooked by everyone. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Under Cover posted Message 2354 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 12, 2003 at 21:37:42 Subject: Unmasking Ayala As you all know Bill Ayala uses lots of aliases to post here. As this writer uncovers solid evidence about the various aliases used by this slim bucket, they will be posted here. No doubt he will protest his innocence and deny being the piece of sh-t he actually is, but what else would you expect from gutter trash like Ayala? So Batter Up... First in the line up of aliases used by the scum of City Hall is "BABE RUTH" = BILL AYALA. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Highly Leveraged Stern Empire Broke posted Message 2355 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 12, 2003 at 22:15:15 Subject: Down goes the Stern Empire I small story not really known is the hard time the Stern had coming up with $40 million pay Elliot Spitzer. The real estate empire of Hartz Mountain is leveraged to the gills and cash strapped. Their poor management of their finances and their wild spending have left them ovr mortgaged and under water. This is primarily due to the Sports Authority not being awarded to their group. Their lenders are examining the loans for a better level of loan to value and the cash flows from the rent rolls does not allow the debt to be serviced. So look for bargains in the Jersey City Market big bargains as distressed sales start to happen. Goldman Sachs has been rumored to be looking for a buyer of their facilities and looking for sites in Florida. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get rid of Jackson posted Message 2356 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 13, 2003 at 07:11:26 Subject: If the mayor is really trying to be fiscally responsible he will get rid of that overpaid, underworked webmaster. The city's website is an absolute joke and should be totally taken down. I found it astonishing that Carlton McGee said that Mr. Jackson doesn't have time to work on the website because he is busy with other projects (the UTN, no doubt). They wanted to bring in someone else (at taxpayer's expense) to overhaul the website and then gave Jackson a raise to boot! Only in Hudson County!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2357 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 13, 2003 at 23:11:32 Subject: Puhleeeeeeeeze !!! Bobby Jackson and the Mayor Man are joined at the hip. The only way Martin Jackson goes out the door is when Cunningham is voted out of office. As for Carlton McGee, he and Martin party together. They are rumored to have shared a line or two. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Darth Scarinci The Third Man posted Message 2358 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 07:34:26 Subject: JarJar Cuningham, Princess Ayala Crimes against humanity first Saddam then the HCDO and the rest of the evil that has come from their organization including Glenn Cunningham. All Glenn Cunningham has ever done is try to cut a better deal that he recieved from the HCDO a true test of loyalty. Of course not loyalty to the people that would be breaking all the rules. The only loyalty that counts making a better deal for his own self. Glenn it is time to step down the guy you hired Ayala has all but placed the dagger in the hands of your enemies several times. Ayala is Brutus and you are the court jester. The HCDO has brought you under their dark force again and the Dark Lord Darth Scarinci is ruling again. Darth Scarinci, JarJar Cunningham, Princess Ayala, and the Jedi of Jersey City have fallen and cannot get up. How much longer must we wait for the force to be placed into balance. This sad tale is missing one figure in this action adventure reality game called Jersey City (Naboo) who is Yoda the Jedi Master? Well since Master is only half a word like Mother for the Gungan, Master should be applied to those that support the fallen Jedi of Jersey City. Jerry McCann is Yoda since he is spending his final years hiding on the swamp planet of Dagobah. When will Jar Jar Cunningham realize that the Princess Ayala has betrayed him and join the Dark Force of the evil Lord Darth Scarinci. Hint for Jar Jar the Princess is a compromised commodity and all the Jedi have had their fun with her. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Darth Scarinci The Third Man posted Message 2359 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 07:51:00 Subject: Princess Ayala sponsors a Frat Party Girls Gone Wild has nothing over the party the HCDO and Princess Ayala are having at Jar Jar's expense or should I say the people of Jersey City since Jar Jar is an insipid fool of the highest order. Living only to feed his own ego having allowed himself to serve only himself and no one else. Jar Jar while we should have seen it from the beginning it becomes all to clear now you are an agent of the Dark Force nothing more nothing less. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Naboo Chicks for a better government posted Message 2360 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 07:52:42 Subject: Throw Princess Ayala out of office We must have a government that at least works asking for a clean un-corrupted one seems to have failed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gollum Scarinci posted Message 2361 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 08:03:36 Subject: Who has stolen my Precious Ring I will crawl around the dark places of the land to find the holder of the ring. The Hobbits of Jersey City hold the ring and it corrupts them they find themselves passing it around trying to regain sanity. But there is no sanity while holding the ring it warps the very soul of his holder. The Hobbits must turn their fate to a better use of their God given talents bury the ring. Start to live like human beings after all the years of graft and bribes you have found no happiness only broken dreams and lives. A new age is dawning one where a frictionless society free with information availible to those that would make life better is availible. In this new world the dark corners of the Gollum are filled with light and the Gollum must die. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Princess Ayala a bedtime story posted Message 2362 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 08:08:09 Subject: Snow White and the City Council Snow White having moved to a more rural setting in order to avoid the persecution of the evil queen now finds herself face to face with the seven dwarfs of the City Council. Now typically she would find happiness and safety with the dwarfs but this is Jersey City Woods no ordinary fairy tale is this. Snow White is made to work day and night for the dwarfs since they all work for the evil queen. Snow White dies and is left to rot in some clearing in the woods. These bedtime stories from the works of Princess Ayala all lack happy endings. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Head Chief at Ruth's Chris Steak House posted Message 2363 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 08:16:55 Subject: Bambi gets Bar B Q The other evening a group of HCDO honchos had a meeting with Glenn and his side kick Princess Ayala. The meal was served and generous portions of the Jersey City budget where consumed Bambi. Their concept of a consumer society is how tasty taxpayers taste. The last scraps of the main course where thrown in the dumpster of this eatery thats what the people get scraps after the pigs have taken their share, of course some pigs are more equal than others. The next day they all had coffee in Hoboken and handled the details, very civilized they almost never hurt anyone within their circle yet they can day after day drag the people down below what anyone would consider civilized. A small contest should be held who ever can get copies of the HCDO' tax returns and publishes them wins. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Saddam's minion posted Message 2364 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 08:43:37 Subject: Saddam wants to run for City council Now that Saddam is free from his obligations to create havoc for freedom he feels the presents an opportunity to serve the people of Jersey City. Since he understands their methods all to well he feels he may be able to bring value to the City Council. The value added he can bring to City Government is that of a professional dictator. As it stands today Saddam expressed great admiration for the work the City council has done over the years in fact he based his Oil for Food program on some of the cash scimming operations run by the HCDO. Saddam would like to thank Mr. Scarinci for allowing him to have this chance to serve the people of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** End the Regime of Terror that run Jersey City and Hudson County posted Message 2365 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 08:49:59 Subject: Jersey City is a Terrorist Regime Terrorist rule the City taking what they will with permission of the City Council there is only one thing they will not allowed to happen that is the people of Jersey City and Hudson County their freedom. Despots have ruled and will continue to rule the Hudson County through the Democratic Organization. This organized crime ring has been around a long long time stealing the hope and dreams of the people. Freedom can only be won for those that will surrender their lives to achieve it. Since the terror and the corruption seem like a small price to pay freedom takes second place. Northern New Jersey Slaves are subjected to higher taxes lack of services and poor education for their children. While an adult might accept slavery for the sake of the childrens lives it is unacceptable to lead the children into a world of slavery since they have made no agreement to submit. We must throw out the HCDO in fact the whole Democratic Machine Nationally they are the evil empire treating some slaves better than others for the appearance of freedom. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Extra Extra posted Message 2366 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 11:51:53 Subject: Extra Extra!!!! A Must Read!!! Thing are getting hot in Hudson County! Hudson Reporter announced the possibilities of Senator Corzine Running for Governor and Menendez taking his seat as Senator. These plans are already on the work. Menendez will take Senator Corzine Seat leaving the Congressional seat for the take. Two known Hudson County politicos are preparing to fight for this seat. One is Mayor and Assembly Elect Brian Stack and Mayor of West New York, Albio Sires. Brian Stack has secured the endorsement of Cunigham, Lou Manzo and Sacco. While Albio Sires is funding, under the table, a recall in Union City under the leadership of an angry school principal Jose "Cheito" Falto in order to bring Stack popularity down ( not that Cheito will ever win, but he is good to cause political chaos). They are fighting as we speak! Sires and Stack already had a confrontation were Sires punched Stack, and presents had to hold both politicos. ( This confrontation was because Stack placed signs all over Union City during the Nov 4 election telling people to only vote for him, and when Sires came to demand an explanation, Stack told him he was his own man.) Jose "Cheito" Falto has been seen holding meeting with some people close to Sires, as well as with Brian Stack wife's Katia Stack (who will be soon divorcing Stack, She was having an affair with a Union City Cop and the mayor caught her). Katia Stack asked the mayor for the Freeholder seat, and Stack said "no" so she is preparing a campaign with the help of Jose Falto, and Rafael Fraguela, funded with Sires’ money to get elected on November 4, of 2004 for the Freeholder Seat. Stack will give the Freeholder seat temporarily to Tilo Rivas, Commissioner of Union City until the Nov election. Fraguela and Katia Stack were seen having dinner on el Meson Espanol in Kennedy Boulevard two week ago. Sires has also offered Freeholder and Commissioner Sal Vega the position of Mayor of West New York, in exchange for his help. More with come!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** WAG posted Message 2367 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 13:30:54 Subject: THE AZERBAIJANI GENOCIDE TO CIVILIZED WORLD COMMUNITY: TO ALL INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS: TO ALL PRESIDENTS AND SOVEREIGNS OF WORLDWIDE COUNTRIES: TO ALL SPEAKERS OF PARLIAMENTS: TO ALL CITIZENS OF WORLD: XX century was marked by many tragic events in the history of mankind. All nations in the world have suffered from evils like war, mass killings, massacre, hunger, deportation and conflicts. Today human rights and fundamental freedoms have become most important engines of life itself. They are clearly enshrined in all international documents released by international organizations and approved by all nations. The world struggles with unprecedented heroism. We have been witnesses when the international community strongly condemned awful September 11 attacks in USA. Nations and States were hand in hand to cure that disease together. We feel the force of international community growing every day. Only the deepest attention of ours will save the future generations from extermination. Wherever evil will play a new scenario, we must be together to prevent all forthcoming bad events. Perhaps, it is very regrettable to point out that international community is not aware about all crimes committed against humanity. Criminals exist for one reason: to be stopped and punished. In this letter addressed to every single citizen of the world nations, we would touch upon a fate of one country. It could seem to anyone a small one. But life is life. It needs to be announced to all international community. Yes, it is the Republic of Azerbaijan. A beautiful oil-rich land, natural resources, very tolerant people called Azerbaijanis are the main features of that Republic. It has restored its national independence in October 1991 after the collapse of former USSR. Since first days of its independence, Azerbaijan was subjected to many difficulties. Member of UN, OSCE, Council of Europe, CIS and many other international organizations is suffering today from the same evil. Nowadays many world citizens and politicians know that twenty percent of Azerbaijani lands are under occupation by the Republic of Armenia. It is a war. Killing, sufferings and blood bath made by Armenian aggressors against Azerbaijanis in 1988-1994 are just a part of centuries long Armenian aggressive policy. We are very saddened today to introduce into universal history a fact of Azerbaijani genocide perpetrated by Armenians during last two centuries. Azerbaijani genocide numbers millions of Azerbaijanis killed during that period. It is a well-planned policy of Armenian politicians who dream about “great Armenia” from Black Sea to Caspian Sea. Azerbaijani genocide had in fact four main stages. First stage of Azerbaijani genocide begins with the first settlements of Armenians in South Caucasus in the second half of XIX century and the emergence of Armenian terrorist and warlike political parties like “Gnchak” (1887, Geneva) and “Dashnaksustyun” (1890, Tiflis – modern Georgia). As a result of war between Czarist Russia and Iran, Gulistan Agreement (October 12, 1813) and Turkmenchay Agreement (February 10, 1828) have divided Azerbaijan into two parts. Only after latter Agreement, Armenia has emerged in that region as a “Armyanskaya oblast” (Armenian district) based upon the Decree signed by Russian Emperor Nicholas 1. 1905-1907 bloody events in Czarist Russia have become as a pretext for Armenians to perpetrate mass killings and national carnage in Azerbaijani cities like Baku, Shusha, Zangezur, Irevan (current Yerevan), Nakhichevan, Ordubad, Echmiadzin (modern Armenia), Chavanshir and Gazakh. Armenians have plundered 200 Azerbaijani villages in Irevan (current Yerevan) and Ganja and 75 villages in Shusha, Jabrayil and Zangezur. Many historical archives are abound with materials about Armenian crimes committed against Azerbaijani at the beginning of XX century. Second stage of Azerbaijani genocide starts with Bolshevik overthrown in 1917 in Russia. In that time, Armenians have massacred thousands of Azerbaijanis under the umbrella of Bolsheviks’ policy. The 31st of March 1918 was a “Saint Bartholomew night” happened in second time in universal history. Armenians had only one reason: “Kill every Turk and Azerbaijani”. Many thousands of Azerbaijanis were slaughtered in Baku, Shamakha, Guba and at Mugan valley. They have killed at least 50000 Azerbaijanis in one city of Lenkeran. In plus, victims of Armenians in Baku numbered 30000 persons. 7000 killed with particular cruelty in Azerbaijani city of Shamakha. Armenians butchered 1653 women and 965 children in that city. In Azerbaijani city of Guba, 122 Moslem villages were razed to ground, 115 villages were put under pillage in Zangezur, 211 villages in Irevan (current Yerevan). Those are years, Azerbaijanis were lucky to obtain an independence. All three South Caucasian countries have got independent in that time. Azerbaijani Democratic Republic has emerged with its tricolor flag on May 28, 1918. In that moment, all conflicts were suspended to maintain independence. Letter of chairman of Council of Ministers of Azerbaijan says: “We have finished all disputes with Armenians, they will accept an ultimatum and will end a war. We handed over Irevan (current Yerevan).” In that moment Armenia has a territory of 17500 square miles with population of 1510000 persons (795000 – Armenians, 575000 – Moslems, 140000 – other nationalities). In 1918-1920, 565000 Azerbaijanis were killed and ousted from their native places in Armenia. Third stage of Azerbaijani genocide has been launched in 1948-1953 under Soviet rule. This time, it has turned out into a mass deportation of Azerbaijanis from Armenia. Soviet leaders did not like any anarchy. Armenians were quite ruse to use more flexible methods to oust Azerbaijanis and at the same time, to please to Stalin. Armenian diaspora has convinced Soviet leader Stalin and Soviet Minister of Foreign Affairs Molotov to permit foreign Armenians to be settled in Soviet Armenia. In 1946, Armenians from Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Bulgaria and Romania have inundated those lands. Their number was 50900. 35400 Armenians have opened their suitcases to live in Soviet Armenia coming from Palestine, Syria, France, USA, Greece, Egypt, Iraq and Lebanon in 1947. After that policy of “armenization”, poor Azerbaijanis from kolkhozs and sovkhozs have been ordered to move to Kura and Araxes valleys of Soviet Azerbaijan on December 23, 1947. According to decision of USSR Council of Ministers, 10000 Azerbaijanis in 1948, 40000 in 1949 and 50000 in 1950 were obliged to leave their homes to new places. During a period of 1948-1952, 100000 Azerbaijanis have quitted native lands in Armenia. Fourth stage of Azerbaijani genocide is quite fresh in our memory. It happened at the end of XX century. Since 1988 first massacre of Azerbaijanis has started in Armenia itself. On one hand, we had a breakdown of USSR, and culmination of genocide against Azerbaijani people was on other hand. There is an Armenian place called Gukark. Number of killed Azerbaijanis in that place was 70. Vardenis region of Armenia had 40 killed Azerbaijanis. Those bloody events were main reasons for 250000 Azerbaijanis who escaped “Lynch court” in Yerevan, Masis, Kalinino, Kajaran, Kaphan, Kirovakan, Goris, Sisian, Amasiya and Alaverdi. All places are located in modern Armenia. Slogan of Armenian nationalists was the following: “Armenia should be without Azerbaijanis”. Dashnak heinous idea has been realizing while Gorbachev and all Soviet leadership closed its blind eyes. At the same time, Armenia launches a large-scale military operation against Azerbaijan to gain more territory, uses Armenians living in Nagorno Karabakh to fuel a fire of separatism. War begins again in South Caucasus. Azerbaijani people is mourning on January 20, 1990. Soviet troops have bulleted many civilians in Baku. Most cruel tragedy of mankind happens in Khojaly (Azerbaijani city) on February 25-26. 1992. While UN and all nations are defending human rights all over the world, Armenians are killing old persons, women and children. Screwed eyes, cutted ears, burnt dead corpses, scalped heads are nothing but “art-work” of Armenians. 20000 of Azerbaijanis are killed in war, 1000000 of refugees and IDP in a country of eight millions of persons. 20% of Azerbaijani lands are occupied by Armenia. It is not a telltale. Neither propaganda, nor politics. Every single citizen sees a child crying close to his/her dead mother. Then, he or she is killed also by a bullet. Timeline is end of XX century. We ask every civilized person to pass this letter to his/her neighbor, friend, and relatives. It is necessary to prevent the same tragedy in other country. We ask you to inform every man and woman on the Earth. We call upon you to stop and prevent it. All criminals should account for their crimes against humanity. Condemn any act of killing. Bring the Justice to criminals. Help the human mankind to advance XXI century without genocide and mass killings. More information about the history of Azerbaijani genocide can be found in http://www.azerigenocide.org. Together we will eradicate this evil. We must recognize an Azerbaijani genocide to preserve all generations from that evil of genocide. Peace on you, AZERBAIJANIS OF THE WORLD (50 MILLION PPL) ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2368 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 13:38:17 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** YOU ARE DREAMING !!!! posted Message 2369 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 13:58:00 Subject: Tell it to Chris Christie Try telling this fairy tale to Chris Christie --- - --- - Most of the individuals you mentioned are due to be indicted. LMAO : Thing are getting hot in Hudson County! Hudson Reporter announced the possibilities of Senator Corzine Running for Governor and Menendez taking his seat as Senator. These plans are already on the work. Menendez will take Senator Corzine Seat leaving the Congressional seat for the take. Two known Hudson County politicos are preparing to fight for this seat. One is Mayor and Assembly Elect Brian Stack and Mayor of West New York, Albio Sires. Brian Stack has secured the endorsement of Cunigham, Lou Manzo and Sacco. While Albio Sires is funding, under the table, a recall in Union City under the leadership of an angry school principal Jose "Cheito" Falto in order to bring Stack popularity down ( not that Cheito will ever win, but he is good to cause political chaos). They are fighting as we speak! Sires and Stack already had a confrontation were Sires punched Stack, and presents had to hold both politicos. ( This confrontation was because Stack placed signs all over Union City during the Nov 4 election telling people to only vote for him, and when Sires came to demand an explanation, Stack told him he was his own man.) Jose "Cheito" Falto has been seen holding meeting with some people close to Sires, as well as with Brian Stack wife's Katia Stack (who will be soon divorcing Stack, She was having an affair with a Union City Cop and the mayor caught her). Katia Stack asked the mayor for the Freeholder seat, and Stack said "no" so she is preparing a campaign with the help of Jose Falto, and Rafael Fraguela, funded with Sires’ money to get elected on November 4, of 2004 for the Freeholder Seat. Stack will give the Freeholder seat temporarily to Tilo Rivas, Commissioner of Union City until the Nov election. Fraguela and Katia Stack were seen having dinner on el Meson Espanol in Kennedy Boulevard two week ago. : Sires has also offered Freeholder and Commissioner Sal Vega the position of Mayor of West New York, in exchange for his help. More with come!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who cares posted Message 2370 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 14:07:06 Subject: Senator Corzine operative slug Senator Corzine is a worthles rich guy who when it comes to protecting his own interest is motivated. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2371 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2003 at 15:37:35 Subject: Re: Unmasking Ayala : As you all know Bill Ayala uses lots of aliases to post here. As this writer uncovers solid evidence about the various aliases used by this slim bucket, they will be posted here. No doubt he will protest his innocence and deny being the piece of sh-t he actually is, but what else would you expect from gutter trash like Ayala? : So Batter Up... : First in the line up of aliases used by the scum of City Hall is "BABE RUTH" = BILL AYALA. Ayala is an idiot .. he is such c clown ..guess one of his aliases is bozo the clown ... hey Ayala .. trying joining the circus ***************** End Of Article ****************** disgusted posted Message 2372 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2003 at 00:37:45 Subject: Re: AYALA FIGHTS BACK : How did Dorf and his deceased brother become the topic of discussion here? I mean hasn't he been gone for a year or so? This board seems to have stooped to a new low when people target a guy and his family like that. : : ONLY WAY HE KNOWS HOW-DIRTY LOW BLOWS AT DORF AND DORFS DEAD BROTHER. D0RF IS GONE. HE IS NOT THE PROBLEM. AYALA IS STILL HERE GUMMING UP THE WORKS THIS GUY MANAGES TO ALIENATE EVERYBODY HE COMES IN CONTACT WITH AND THEN TORPEDOES THEM ASSASINATING THEIR CHARACTER. CUNNINGHAM LISTENS TO THIS MORON AND BELIEVES HIM. CUNNINGHAM HAS NOT NOTICED YET THAT ANYBODY WHO IS NOT AYALA IS EITHER AN ENEMY OR INCOMPETENT, ACCORDING TO AYALA. ANY IDEA THAT DOES NOT COME FROM AYALA IS NO GOOD, EVEN IF AYALA HAS NO IDEA OF HIS OWN. AYALA IS BUSY LOOKING FOR HIS NEXT JOB AT GLENNS EXPENSE. Please people .. I believe this is so wrong .. how low can one be to continually dwell on Dorf not to mention bringing up his brother ... That is cruel and uncalled for .. The true matter is the disgusting and mean political mudslinging of Dorf and his family by Ayala and his circus of goonies .. Give it a rest ... Dorf has not been in politics for a while ...he has totally pulled himself away from this world and has moved on .. He is very successful at what he is doing and is extremely independent not too mention very handsome too.. I believe that Ayala needs to be removed from his position immediately and dealt with severely for all the negative comments and falsities about Dorf .. Ayala you are a disgusting PIG!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 2373 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2003 at 07:15:57 Subject: Strange Days Strange days. . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glenn and his boyfriend Ayala posted Message 2374 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2003 at 08:35:27 Subject: Glenn is a racist he only loves green in his pocket no one elses The idiots at Urban Times think that just because their BOY is in office and they get some bribes that we think they are any different than HCDO. It is just a different thief but still stealing. The owner of the Urban Times is a crook who should look at his own glass house before throwing stones. Imagine if the Jersey City website really worked. Imagine if the Commercial Real estate folks did not have to pay bribes how many jobs they could add. Imagine that those that deal the race card where not guilty of worse. Imagine is Glenn and his buddy Ayala did not hate white people so much they might see them as people instead of wallets to steal from. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glenn's Plantation everyone is the N word posted Message 2375 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2003 at 08:38:51 Subject: Welcome to the new Regime Plantation Glenn Everyone has become the N word with Glenn in office he is the master and we are his slaves. Glenn when did you ever get treated that bad that stealing at this level was acceptable? Shame on you Glenn Cunningham Shame on you. Refinance why all you are going to do is stuff your pockets full of our cash. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2376 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2003 at 16:00:09 Subject: Tonite topics on HCT. Cunningham and the City Council, What is Glenn thinking?..JCDPW goe's a paving, Princeton University's vision for Journal Square, Cunningham & Hobokens Russo?now we have Hobokens Mayor Roberts and 3 time elected former JC Mayor Schundler getting together. Think Glenn hears the clock ticking? Free Christmas show for residents of Jersey City all this and more tonite 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2377 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2003 at 18:03:23 Subject: Re: I thought Dorf was fired for laziness : Wasn't he fired by more Hudson politico's than anyone in history? Dorf is a survivor and a great PR guy ... He is going places .. ***************** End Of Article ****************** God's Prophet posted Message 2378 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2003 at 19:53:36 Subject: I'm very angry at the level of corruption in Jersey City Stop being corrupt and stealing from my people. Ok take a little less. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 2379 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2003 at 22:53:29 Subject: What else can I say ? This cartoon is a good example of where the City, under the leadership of Glenn Cunningham, has finally sunk to. It's very simple. If you don't support Cunningham completely, you are branded a racist or tool of racists. The absurdity and viciousness of portraying Harvey Smith as a dupe of white supremacists is outrageous. Shame on Glenn Cunningham, the Urban Times News and this board for allowing this piece of trash to be posted. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Friend to Anthony posted Message 2380 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2003 at 23:35:23 Subject: Re: Strange Days : Strange days. . . Anthony. I know you and you know me. I know you are a decent if strange man. How in God's name can you allow such racist, incindiary posts to be tolerated on your board. There are limits to free speech, shouting fire in a crowded theater. This cartoon clearly crosses a line of good taste and you know it. Would you allow a naSi swatsicka on this site? A hooded klansman? Bret Schundler will be the next mayor of Jersey City andhopefully be a leader who brings us together. If you wish to participate in that effort don't let them use you like this. If not lie down with the dogs and get fleas. We are watching. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2381 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 16, 2003 at 04:51:22 Subject: Re: Strange Days : : Strange days. . . . . . :We are watching. You are not alone. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roberto Alvarado posted Message 2382 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 16, 2003 at 10:54:36 Subject: WSI Internet Consulting Franchise WSI Corporate Soars high as E-tailors prepare for a Green Christmas WSI Corporate experiences upward momentum – as 2003's online holiday sales set to increase 21% over 2002 - According to Jupiter Research. With thousands of small- to medium-sized businesses worldwide bearing witness, no “competitor” has come close to matching the colossal strength of WSI Corporate in the marketplace. 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About WSI Consulting WSI, headquartered in Toronto, Canada, is ranked the #1 Internet Services Business in the world and the 4th fastest-growing International Franchise. With systems that have been developed, utilized and proven by over 700 Internet Consultants in 87 countries worldwide, WSI delivers thousands of e-business solutions to small and medium sized businesses annually. VISIT: http://www.wsicorporate.com/business.asp?id=79359 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Geraldine R. Clark, Urban Times News posted Message 2383 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 16, 2003 at 17:09:17 Subject: Why Are Some Hudson County Elected Officials Demanding My Name Be Removed From The Urban Times News Masthead? Urban Times News By Geraldine R. Clark Atlantic City, NJ -The New Jersey State League of Municipalities (NJSLOM) held their 88th Annual Conference in Atlantic City and not all the highlights of the conference were the informative League Sessions and the numerous receptions. On Tuesday night, November 18th. 2003, if you were at Bally's Hotel & Casino on the 6th. floor, you were probably wondering what that loud commotion was all about Well, all noise wasn't coming from just the receptions. Two Guttenberg council members, who were yelling at one of their constituents, were the culprits making some of that noise. Newly elected Hudson County Clerk Javier Inclan and Guttenberg Councilwoman Jennifer Credidio were trying to convey to me (as loud as they could) why they wouldn't give a contract to my former employer, John Bruno, CEO/Founder of The Bruno Group, a grants consulting an public relations firm located inClifton. It seems that Mr. Inclan, Ms. Credidio and their associates do not want to have anything to do with anyone that allows their employees to associate with the Urban Times New because that newspaper has been saying negative things about Mr. Inclan and his associates. Mr., Inclan feels that it would be ludicrous on his part to give The Bruno Group a contract since Mr. Bruno has a person on staff whose name appears in the masthead of the Urban Times News. As the newly elected Hudson County Clerk, he feels that the Urban Times News should mention that he is the first Hispanic and youngest person ever elected to this position, instead of the negative things they are currently writing about him. I tried to explain to Mr. Inclan and Ms. Credidio that I had nothing to do with the negative stories being printed about him and her associates. However, the newly elected Hudson County Clerk and the Guttenberg councilwoman weren't hearing me. Instead they keep repeating that he was the first Hispanic and youngest person ever elected as the Hudson County Clerk and that is what should be printed about him. No matter how many times I told them that I had nothing to do with those stories and I was no longer an employee of The Bruno Group, they just kept yelling louder and louder. Several times Ms. Credidio walked away, but she kept coming back, yelling at me that there was no way that she would give a contract to anyone who allowed their employees to have their name on the masthead of the newspaper that was saying negative things about her associates. If slanderous comments were being printed about them, I suggested they contact their lawyers. Ms. Credidio stated that nothing negative was printed about her, just her associates and that was her reason for not wanting to do business with The Bruno Group. During this confrontation, I asked them why they didn't come directly to me and ask me about these negative stories being printed about them, especially since I lived in Guttenberg. They're response was "why should they?" They didn't want to have anything to do with anyone affiliated with the Urban Times News. Instead they told my former employer to have me write a letter to Bobby Jackson, the Publisher of the Urban Times News and demand that my name be removed from their masthead. I asked them if doing that wouldhelp my former employer get a contract with them. They said no it wouldn't. So of course I wanted to know if they were not going to give him a contract why did they want my name removed from the masthead. Unfortunately, that just infu-riated them even more, that Kay LiCausi, former aide of Congressman Robert Menendez tried to get Inclan, the first Hispanic and youngest person elected as the Hudson County Clerk, to stop yelling and walk away from the conversation, but he rebuffed her. Mr. Inclan. the first Hispanic and youngest person elected as the Hudson County Clerk, was yelling at me so loud that a Bally's security guard came over to us and asked what was the matter, It was then that Mr. Inclan, the first Hispanic and youngest person elected as the Hudson County Clerk, stopped yelling at me. As I previously mentioned, I tried several times to find out why Mr.Inland, the first Hispanic and youngest person ever elected as the Hudson Comity Clerk, felt he had the right to (1) yell at me the way he did and embarrass me in front of my co-workers and friends; (2) demand from Mr. Bruno that I write a letter to Bobby Jackson requesting that my name be removed from the Urban Times News masthead; (3) to demand from me that I remove my name from the Urban Times masthead; and (4) disrespect me. I'm still waiting for the response. After the security guard came over to us, Mr. Inclan, the first Hispanic and youngest person ever elected as the Hudson County Clerk and Ms. Credidio walked away from me without apologizing to me for their immature behavior. This incident has me wondering how they react at other times when people do or say things that don't agree with their ideas and beliefs. Does Mr. Inclan, the first Hispanic and youngest person ever elected as the Hudson County Clerk and Ms. Credidio, one of the youngest women elected to the Guttenberg council act so immature ever time something happens that they do not like? Thank God, I'm no longer a resident of Guttenberg because they would probably have my former landlord evict me from my apartment because they don't want someone whose name appears in the masthead of the Urban Times News living in their town. And, Javier and Jennifer, just for the record, I mentioned your behavior to a few of your associates and they were not pleased with your actions, so don't be surprised if you get a "time out" and are sent packing because you both have become a liability to your associates. If you decide that you want to act in a professional manner befitting the positions of the Hudson County Clerk and a Guttenberg council-person, you can send me a letter of apology to the Urban Times News. The address is just above my name in the masthead. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2384 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 16, 2003 at 17:17:33 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show For December 15, 2003 To access the Online audio, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** What's Barry Saying? posted Message 2385 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 16, 2003 at 17:26:46 Subject: Where will Bernard Kenny try to hide if Chris Christie goes looking for him? How deep will he dig his hole? Basements in Hoboken tend to flood. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Figures posted Message 2386 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 16, 2003 at 20:18:51 Subject: Re: Why Are Some Hudson County Elected Officials Demanding My Name Be Removed From The Urban Times News Masthead? Sounds like he's been to the "Bill Ayala School of Political Persuation"....At least he didn't try to man-handle you as Gorilla Ayala has been known to do. : Urban Times News : By Geraldine R. Clark : Atlantic City, NJ -The New Jersey State League of Municipalities (NJSLOM) held their 88th Annual Conference in Atlantic City and not all the highlights of the conference were the informative League Sessions and the numerous receptions. On Tuesday night, November 18th. 2003, if you were at Bally's Hotel & Casino on the 6th. floor, you were probably wondering what that loud commotion was all about Well, all noise wasn't coming from just the receptions. Two Guttenberg council members, who were yelling at one of their constituents, were the culprits making some of that noise. Newly elected Hudson County Clerk Javier Inclan and Guttenberg Councilwoman Jennifer Credidio were trying to convey to me (as loud as they could) why they wouldn't give a contract to my former : employer, John Bruno, CEO/Founder of The Bruno Group, a grants consulting an public relations firm located inClifton. : It seems that Mr. Inclan, Ms. Credidio and their associates do not want to have anything to do with anyone that allows their employees to associate with the Urban Times New because that newspaper has been saying negative things about Mr. Inclan and his associates. : Mr., Inclan feels that it would be ludicrous on his part to give The Bruno Group a contract since Mr. Bruno has a person on staff whose name appears in the masthead of the Urban Times News. As the newly elected Hudson County Clerk, he feels that the Urban Times News should mention that he is the first Hispanic and youngest person ever elected to this position, instead of the negative things they are currently writing about him. : I tried to explain to Mr. Inclan and Ms. Credidio that I had nothing to do with the negative stories being printed about him and her associates. However, the newly elected Hudson County Clerk and the Guttenberg councilwoman weren't hearing me. Instead they keep repeating that he was the first Hispanic and youngest person ever elected as the Hudson County Clerk and that is what : should be printed about him. No matter how many times I told them that I had nothing to do with those stories and I was no longer an employee of The Bruno Group, they just kept yelling louder and louder. : Several times Ms. Credidio walked away, but she kept coming back, yelling at me that there was no way that she would give a contract to anyone who allowed their employees to have their name on the masthead of the newspaper that was saying negative things about her associates. If slanderous comments were being printed about them, I suggested they contact their lawyers. Ms. Credidio stated that nothing negative was printed about her, just her associates and that was her reason for not wanting to do business with The Bruno Group. : During this confrontation, I asked them why they didn't come directly to me and ask me about these negative stories being printed about them, especially since I lived in Guttenberg. They're response was "why should they?" They didn't want to have anything to do with anyone affiliated with the Urban Times News. Instead they told my former employer to have me write a letter to Bobby : Jackson, the Publisher of the Urban Times News and demand that my name be removed from their masthead. I asked them if doing that wouldhelp my former employer get a contract with them. They said no it wouldn't. So of course I wanted to know if they were not going to give him a contract why did they want my name removed from the masthead. : Unfortunately, that just infu-riated them even more, that Kay LiCausi, former aide of Congressman Robert Menendez tried to get Inclan, the first Hispanic and youngest person elected as the Hudson County Clerk, to stop yelling and walk away from : the conversation, but he rebuffed her. : Mr. Inclan. the first Hispanic and youngest person elected as the Hudson County Clerk, was yelling at me so loud that a Bally's security guard came over to us and asked what was the matter, It was then that Mr. Inclan, the first Hispanic and youngest person elected as the Hudson County Clerk, stopped yelling at me. : As I previously mentioned, I tried several times to find out why Mr.Inland, the first Hispanic and youngest person ever elected as the : Hudson Comity Clerk, felt he had the right to (1) yell at me the way he did and embarrass me in front of my co-workers and friends; (2) demand from Mr. Bruno that I write a letter to Bobby Jackson requesting that my name be removed from the Urban Times News masthead; (3) to demand from me that I remove my name from the Urban Times masthead; and (4) disrespect me. : I'm still waiting for the response. After the security guard came over to us, Mr. Inclan, the first Hispanic and youngest person ever : elected as the Hudson County Clerk and Ms. Credidio walked away from me without apologizing to me for their immature behavior. : This incident has me wondering how they react at other times when people do or say things that don't agree with their ideas and : beliefs. Does Mr. Inclan, the first Hispanic and youngest person ever elected as the Hudson County Clerk and Ms. Credidio, one of the youngest women elected to the Guttenberg council act so immature ever time something happens that they do not like? : Thank God, I'm no longer a resident of Guttenberg because they would probably have my former landlord evict me from my apartment because they don't want someone whose name appears in the masthead of the Urban Times News living in their town. : And, Javier and Jennifer, just for the record, I mentioned your behavior to a few of your associates and they were not pleased with your actions, so don't be surprised if you get a "time out" and are sent packing because you both have become a liability to your associates. : If you decide that you want to act in a professional manner befitting the positions of the Hudson County Clerk and a Guttenberg council-person, you can send me a letter of apology to the Urban Times News. The address is just above my name in the masthead. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Elect someone with a brain posted Message 2387 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 16, 2003 at 21:47:27 Subject: Ayala takes blaim while Glenn is the idiot Ayala takes all the heat for the stupid things Glenn does. How many times can the employee be blaimed for the stupidity of the boss? Well it seems that Glenn never does anything wrong but his second in command does everything wrong how can that be? Glenn hired the dude so isn't really Glenns problem. What kind of leader keeps going to the same source of problem after problem? The answer is Glenn is no leader at all please remove him from office as soon as possible. Since a factual statement like this can be considered racist like any critical approach to the failures of Glenn let me tell you as a black lesbian handicapped person I have no racial hatred for Glenn only sympathy for his inability to perform his job. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ayala is The Scarecrow - Brainless posted Message 2388 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 16, 2003 at 22:30:14 Subject: Re: Ayala takes blaim while Glenn is the idiot First, Ayala is not enough of a man to take the heat for his own stupid acts. He is a low-life worm who has no talent and no business playing in the big leagues. He has no talent, no fresh ideas, no common sense, no ability to deal with people, no credibility, not one characteristic necessary to rise to the level he has aspired to other than greed and ego. Second, just because Glenn is an idiot, does not mean Ayala should be given credit for anything other than getting out of bed in the morning. Ayala is an overpaid do-nothing j-rk and that alone allows others to put the burden on him to prove his worth. To date, he has proven nothing to the people of Jersey City other than his own over-blown view of himself. Glenn is at fault for foisting this idiot Ayala on us and for giving him greater responsibility than he can handle. Ayala should have nothing more than a shovel in his hand since that is the level of discourse he can understand. He has dug a hole for this administration, and its time he digs one for himself so that we don't have to smell the foul odor of his rotten ego anymore. : Ayala takes all the heat for the stupid things Glenn does. How many times can the employee be blaimed for the stupidity of the boss? Well it seems that Glenn never does anything wrong but his second in command does everything wrong how can that be? Glenn hired the dude so isn't really Glenns problem. What kind of leader keeps going to the same source of problem after problem? The answer is Glenn is no leader at all please remove him from office as soon as possible. Since a factual statement like this can be considered racist like any critical approach to the failures of Glenn let me tell you as a black lesbian handicapped person I have no racial hatred for Glenn only sympathy for his inability to perform his job. ***************** End Of Article ****************** History is made in Jersey City! posted Message 2389 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 06:02:13 Subject: Mayor Cunningham Elected to State Senate for the 31st District Election Marks First Time a Mayor of Jersey City Has Held State Office Like James in Newark, Glenn is going to be MAYOR FOR LIFE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC RULES! posted Message 2390 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 07:43:34 Subject: Hudson County Amasses More Power December 14, 2003, Sunday The New York Times New Jersey Weekly Desk ON POLITICS; Hudson County Amasses More Power By Raymond Hernandez; Raymond Hernandez reports from Washington for The New York Times. WASHINGTON IT is one of the most formidable political machines in the nation, the Hudson County Democratic organization. And it is only becoming stronger. Politicians in Hudson County are rubbing their hands with glee now that two of their own are at the pinnacle of power in Trenton in the wake of the November elections, when Democrats finally seized complete control of the State House for the first time since 1991. In the Assembly, Albio Sires of Hudson County was re-elected speaker with little dissent after Democrats picked up six seats to give them a 47-to-33 majority over Republicans. Even more striking, in the Senate, Senator Bernard Kenny, the Hudson County Democratic chairman, ascended to the post of majority leader after Democrats picked up two seats to give them a 22-to-18 edge in that chamber. As it was, Hudson County leaders were a force to be reckoned with in New Jersey politics, presiding over a county with huge numbers of Democratic votes and one that no person running in a statewide election could afford to ignore. "This makes the county not just a political power within the state but a significant force in the Legislature," said Representative Robert Menendez of Jersey City. He would know. As the de facto head of the Hudson County Democratic organization, Mr. Menendez not only stopped Robert G. Torricelli's plans to seek the party's nomination for governor in 2001 but was also instrumental in helping James McGreevey win election as governor that year, though the two men have clashed since then. It is remarkable to see so much political power concentrated in one place. Even in its heyday, the vaunted Nassau County Republican machine across the Hudson River in New York did not have the sway in that state that Hudson County has in New Jersey. Sure, the Nassau County organization could boast that it produced Senator Alfonse M. D'Amato, who was the most dominant figure in New York Republican politics since Nelson Rockefeller. And sure, Republicans dominated the state Senate for years under the stewardship of Ralph Marino, the majority leader who came out of the Nassau County machine. But Hudson County's power is of a wholly different order. Consider Mr. Menendez, who handpicked Mr. Kenny to succeed him as the head of the Hudson County Democratic organization. Mr. Menendez wields considerable political influence in Democratic circles around the state. But he also is a significant political force nationally, a man who national Democrats urged to run for the United States Senate when Mr. Torricelli announced at the last minute that he would not be seeking re-election. Over the years, Mr. Menendez has been accumulating more and more power in the House of Representatives, where he is the chairman of the Democratic caucus, making him the third-ranking Democrat and the only Hispanic legislator in either party to hold a top leadership position. That gives him a major say in putting together the Democratic agenda on Capitol Hill. Beyond that, Mr. Menendez has a big following among Hispanic leaders around the country, at a time when Hispanic voters are seen as a hugely important bloc in national and local elections. In fact, many of the nation's most prominent Hispanic organizations backed Mr. Menendez's efforts to be elected caucus chairman by his Democratic House colleagues, arguing that the election was an opportunity for Democrats to demonstrate their commitment to advancing Hispanics within the party. As if that were not enough, Hudson County Democrats are claiming another powerful New Jersey Democrat as one of their own (although somewhat jokingly): Jon S. Corzine, the state's senior senator and a former Wall Street executive, who recently moved into Hoboken. Like Mr. Menendez, Mr. Corzine is a rising star in Washington. A few months back, Senator Tom Daschle, the Democratic leader, named Mr. Corzine chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. That post gave Mr. Corzine an instant national profile, control over tens of millions of dollars in campaign cash, a huge say in shaping the Democratic agenda in the Senate and a chance to curry favor with candidates from around the country. In that respect, he may now be the most influential New Jersey Democrat in Congress. "Hudson County not only has state reach, but national reach as well," Mr. Menendez said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ken O'Tay posted Message 2391 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 08:39:00 Subject: Re: What else can I say ? : The absurdity and viciousness of portraying Harvey Smith as a dupe of white supremacists is outrageous. That's right. Harvey Smith is not a dupe.... HE'S A WELL-PAID AND WILLING TOOL! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pis In The Punch posted Message 2392 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 08:48:27 Subject: Re: Hudson County Amasses More Power The true read on this is that the Honorable James E. McGreevey doesn't have to worry about "Snowflake" Sires or "Bozo" Kenny running for governor. James E. probably has got so much on them both, he can twist their arms into doing whatever he wants. Plus, if the you know what hits the fan, James E. will have no trouble blaming it on Hudson County. : December 14, 2003, Sunday : The New York Times : New Jersey Weekly Desk : ON POLITICS; : Hudson County Amasses More Power : By Raymond Hernandez; Raymond Hernandez reports from Washington for The New York Times. : WASHINGTON : IT is one of the most formidable political machines in the nation, the Hudson County Democratic organization. : And it is only becoming stronger. : Politicians in Hudson County are rubbing their hands with glee now that two of their own are at the pinnacle of power in Trenton in the wake of the November elections, when Democrats finally seized complete control of the State House for the first time since 1991. : In the Assembly, Albio Sires of Hudson County was re-elected speaker with little dissent after Democrats picked up six seats to give them a 47-to-33 majority over Republicans. : Even more striking, in the Senate, Senator Bernard Kenny, the Hudson County Democratic chairman, ascended to the post of majority leader after Democrats picked up two seats to give them a 22-to-18 edge in that chamber. : As it was, Hudson County leaders were a force to be reckoned with in New Jersey politics, presiding over a county with huge numbers of Democratic votes and one that no person running in a statewide election could afford to ignore. : "This makes the county not just a political power within the state but a significant force in the Legislature," said Representative Robert Menendez of Jersey City. : He would know. As the de facto head of the Hudson County Democratic organization, Mr. Menendez not only stopped Robert G. Torricelli's plans to seek the party's nomination for governor in 2001 but was also instrumental in helping James McGreevey win election as governor that year, though the two men have clashed since then. : It is remarkable to see so much political power concentrated in one place. Even in its heyday, the vaunted Nassau County Republican machine across the Hudson River in New York did not have the sway in that state that Hudson County has in New Jersey. : Sure, the Nassau County organization could boast that it produced Senator Alfonse M. D'Amato, who was the most dominant figure in New York Republican politics since Nelson Rockefeller. And sure, Republicans dominated the state Senate for years under the stewardship of Ralph Marino, the majority leader who came out of the Nassau County machine. : But Hudson County's power is of a wholly different order. Consider Mr. Menendez, who handpicked Mr. Kenny to succeed him as the head of the Hudson County Democratic organization. : Mr. Menendez wields considerable political influence in Democratic circles around the state. But he also is a significant political force nationally, a man who national Democrats urged to run for the United States Senate when Mr. Torricelli announced at the last minute that he would not be seeking re-election. : Over the years, Mr. Menendez has been accumulating more and more power in the House of Representatives, where he is the chairman of the Democratic caucus, making him the third-ranking Democrat and the only Hispanic legislator in either party to hold a top leadership position. That gives him a major say in putting together the Democratic agenda on Capitol Hill. : Beyond that, Mr. Menendez has a big following among Hispanic leaders around the country, at a time when Hispanic voters are seen as a hugely important bloc in national and local elections. : In fact, many of the nation's most prominent Hispanic organizations backed Mr. Menendez's efforts to be elected caucus chairman by his Democratic House colleagues, arguing that the election was an opportunity for Democrats to demonstrate their commitment to advancing Hispanics within the party. : As if that were not enough, Hudson County Democrats are claiming another powerful New Jersey Democrat as one of their own (although somewhat jokingly): Jon S. Corzine, the state's senior senator and a former Wall Street executive, who recently moved into Hoboken. : Like Mr. Menendez, Mr. Corzine is a rising star in Washington. A few months back, Senator Tom Daschle, the Democratic leader, named Mr. Corzine chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. : That post gave Mr. Corzine an instant national profile, control over tens of millions of dollars in campaign cash, a huge say in shaping the Democratic agenda in the Senate and a chance to curry favor with candidates from around the country. In that respect, he may now be the most influential New Jersey Democrat in Congress. : "Hudson County not only has state reach, but national reach as well," Mr. Menendez said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** If he is a lifer, I'm a mover! posted Message 2393 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 09:26:23 Subject: Re: Mayor Cunningham Elected to State Senate for the 31st District O' Happy. happy, oy,joy.......NOT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 2394 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 11:20:54 Subject: One-Term Glenn If Bret runs again, Glenn is toast. I can't stand either one of them, but that's the way it will be. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Princess Ayala posted Message 2395 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 13:25:22 Subject: Now Glenn can screw up twice as much Glenn will have to find another side kick to blaim his screw ups on the man is an idiot Ayala is just an excuse. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Atricle Ends with Menendez Said posted Message 2396 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 15:52:10 Subject: Menendez Wrote Article & Fed it to the Reporter Boss Bobalou spoon fed this article to the Times Reporter - IN WASHINGTON DC. Article is nothing more than a Menendez Fluff Piece. WHAT ABOUT CHRIS CHRISTIE ????? : December 14, 2003, Sunday : The New York Times : New Jersey Weekly Desk : ON POLITICS; : Hudson County Amasses More Power : By Raymond Hernandez; Raymond Hernandez reports from Washington for The New York Times. : WASHINGTON : IT is one of the most formidable political machines in the nation, the Hudson County Democratic organization. : And it is only becoming stronger. : Politicians in Hudson County are rubbing their hands with glee now that two of their own are at the pinnacle of power in Trenton in the wake of the November elections, when Democrats finally seized complete control of the State House for the first time since 1991. : In the Assembly, Albio Sires of Hudson County was re-elected speaker with little dissent after Democrats picked up six seats to give them a 47-to-33 majority over Republicans. : Even more striking, in the Senate, Senator Bernard Kenny, the Hudson County Democratic chairman, ascended to the post of majority leader after Democrats picked up two seats to give them a 22-to-18 edge in that chamber. : As it was, Hudson County leaders were a force to be reckoned with in New Jersey politics, presiding over a county with huge numbers of Democratic votes and one that no person running in a statewide election could afford to ignore. : "This makes the county not just a political power within the state but a significant force in the Legislature," said Representative Robert Menendez of Jersey City. : He would know. As the de facto head of the Hudson County Democratic organization, Mr. Menendez not only stopped Robert G. Torricelli's plans to seek the party's nomination for governor in 2001 but was also instrumental in helping James McGreevey win election as governor that year, though the two men have clashed since then. : It is remarkable to see so much political power concentrated in one place. Even in its heyday, the vaunted Nassau County Republican machine across the Hudson River in New York did not have the sway in that state that Hudson County has in New Jersey. : Sure, the Nassau County organization could boast that it produced Senator Alfonse M. D'Amato, who was the most dominant figure in New York Republican politics since Nelson Rockefeller. And sure, Republicans dominated the state Senate for years under the stewardship of Ralph Marino, the majority leader who came out of the Nassau County machine. : But Hudson County's power is of a wholly different order. Consider Mr. Menendez, who handpicked Mr. Kenny to succeed him as the head of the Hudson County Democratic organization. : Mr. Menendez wields considerable political influence in Democratic circles around the state. But he also is a significant political force nationally, a man who national Democrats urged to run for the United States Senate when Mr. Torricelli announced at the last minute that he would not be seeking re-election. : Over the years, Mr. Menendez has been accumulating more and more power in the House of Representatives, where he is the chairman of the Democratic caucus, making him the third-ranking Democrat and the only Hispanic legislator in either party to hold a top leadership position. That gives him a major say in putting together the Democratic agenda on Capitol Hill. : Beyond that, Mr. Menendez has a big following among Hispanic leaders around the country, at a time when Hispanic voters are seen as a hugely important bloc in national and local elections. : In fact, many of the nation's most prominent Hispanic organizations backed Mr. Menendez's efforts to be elected caucus chairman by his Democratic House colleagues, arguing that the election was an opportunity for Democrats to demonstrate their commitment to advancing Hispanics within the party. : As if that were not enough, Hudson County Democrats are claiming another powerful New Jersey Democrat as one of their own (although somewhat jokingly): Jon S. Corzine, the state's senior senator and a former Wall Street executive, who recently moved into Hoboken. : Like Mr. Menendez, Mr. Corzine is a rising star in Washington. A few months back, Senator Tom Daschle, the Democratic leader, named Mr. Corzine chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. : That post gave Mr. Corzine an instant national profile, control over tens of millions of dollars in campaign cash, a huge say in shaping the Democratic agenda in the Senate and a chance to curry favor with candidates from around the country. In that respect, he may now be the most influential New Jersey Democrat in Congress. : "Hudson County not only has state reach, but national reach as well," Mr. Menendez said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Gotta be Kidding posted Message 2397 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 16:16:45 Subject: Re: JarJar Cuningham, Princess Ayala What next Dungeons and Dragons?? You got valid points, but your Star Wars talk buries any truth under a pile of Yoda. Hard to take ya seriously when the picture you give is a guy with thick black-rim glasses held together with a band aid. : Crimes against humanity first Saddam then the HCDO and the rest of the evil that has come from their organization including Glenn Cunningham. All Glenn Cunningham has ever done is try to cut a better deal that he recieved from the HCDO a true test of loyalty. Of course not loyalty to the people that would be breaking all the rules. The only loyalty that counts making a better deal for his own self. Glenn it is time to step down the guy you hired Ayala has all but placed the dagger in the hands of your enemies several times. Ayala is Brutus and you are the court jester. The HCDO has brought you under their dark force again and the Dark Lord Darth Scarinci is ruling again. Darth Scarinci, JarJar Cunningham, Princess Ayala, and the Jedi of Jersey City have fallen and cannot get up. How much longer must we wait for the force to be placed into balance. This sad tale is missing one figure in this action adventure reality game called Jersey City (Naboo) who is Yoda the Jedi Master? Well since Master is only half a word like Mother for the Gungan, Master should be applied to those that support the fallen Jedi of Jersey City. Jerry McCann is Yoda since he is spending his final years hiding on the swamp planet of Dagobah. When will Jar Jar Cunningham realize that the Princess Ayala has betrayed him and join the Dark Force of the evil Lord Darth Scarinci. Hint for Jar Jar the Princess is a compromised commodity and all the Jedi have had their fun with her. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ayala posted Message 2398 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 18:08:09 Subject: Re: AYALA dribbles : : Like Jeb Clamput (Paw) on the Beverly Hill-BILLY's used to say... "there's just somthin funda-MENTALLY wrong with that boy. : : AYALA IS IN CHARGE OF THE WEBSITE. THAT BOY HAS ALL THE ANSWERS Ayala could never be in cahrge of anything and be successful .. he is a mentally and physically incompetent. And furthermore how anyone can put up with this pathetic loser and monkey .. well let's just say i think Ayala should get out of politics and join a circus if the circus will have him .. LOL what a joke .. bury him in the sand .. flush him down the political pipes of Jersey .. Now let's band together to get Ayala out of here for good ***************** End Of Article ****************** topgirlz posted Message 2399 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 18:12:30 Subject: Re: Now Glenn can screw up twice as much : Glenn will have to find another side kick to blaim his screw ups on the man is an idiot Ayala is just an excuse. Get rid of Glenn .. he is a sorry loser that keeps screwing up .. But first let's get Ayala the venal monkey out of here .. he totally keeps screwing up ... We need some fresh new blood .. Guess as I read this campaign is going down the "political pipes of Jersey" .. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black posted Message 2400 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 18:27:02 Subject: Re: Ayala takes blaim while Glenn is the idiot : First, Ayala is not enough of a man to take the heat for his own stupid acts. He is a low-life worm who has no talent and no business playing in the big leagues. He has no talent, no fresh ideas, no common sense, no ability to deal with people, no credibility, not one characteristic necessary to rise to the level he has aspired to other than greed and ego. : Second, just because Glenn is an idiot, does not mean Ayala should be given credit for anything other than getting out of bed in the morning. Ayala is an overpaid do-nothing j-rk and that alone allows others to put the burden on him to prove his worth. To date, he has proven nothing to the people of Jersey City other than his own over-blown view of himself. : Glenn is at fault for foisting this idiot Ayala on us and for giving him greater responsibility than he can handle. Ayala should have nothing more than a shovel in his hand since that is the level of discourse he can understand. He has dug a hole for this administration, and its time he digs one for himself so that we don't have to smell the foul odor of his rotten ego anymore. : : Ayala takes all the heat for the stupid things Glenn does. How many times can the employee be blaimed for the stupidity of the boss? Well it seems that Glenn never does anything wrong but his second in command does everything wrong how can that be? Glenn hired the dude so isn't really Glenns problem. What kind of leader keeps going to the same source of problem after problem? The answer is Glenn is no leader at all please remove him from office as soon as possible. Since a factual statement like this can be considered racist like any critical approach to the failures of Glenn let me tell you as a black lesbian handicapped person I have no racial hatred for Glenn only sympathy for his inability to perform his job. Ayala is no sane normal man .. This idiot and loser is a pathetic moran that needs to be removed from the administration and the face of this earth . He belongs 6 feet under with all the pathetic worms demons and devils .. He cannot perform any job nor can he perform in any other capacity either ... I vote to all band together and push real hard to get both Ayala and Cunningham out of this adminstration and flush their sorry butts down the political pipes of Jersey City .. Send them to Hell ***************** End Of Article ****************** saddam posted Message 2401 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 18:28:58 Subject: Re: Saddam wants to run for City council : Now that Saddam is free from his obligations to create havoc for freedom he feels the presents an opportunity to serve the people of Jersey City. Since he understands their methods all to well he feels he may be able to bring value to the City Council. The value added he can bring to City Government is that of a professional dictator. As it stands today Saddam expressed great admiration for the work the City council has done over the years in fact he based his Oil for Food program on some of the cash scimming operations run by the HCDO. Saddam would like to thank Mr. Scarinci for allowing him to have this chance to serve the people of Jersey City. Here is a good one .. A race between Saddam, Cunningham, and Ayala .. which dirty rat would win??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** clown posted Message 2402 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 18:33:09 Subject: Re: Unmasking Ayala : : As you all know Bill Ayala uses lots of aliases to post here. As this writer uncovers solid evidence about the various aliases used by this slim bucket, they will be posted here. No doubt he will protest his innocence and deny being the piece of sh-t he actually is, but what else would you expect from gutter trash like Ayala? : : So Batter Up... : : First in the line up of aliases used by the scum of City Hall is "BABE RUTH" = BILL AYALA. : : Ayala is an idiot .. he is such c clown ..guess one of his aliases is bozo the clown ... hey Ayala .. trying joining the circus If you unmasked Ayala you would find a pathetic clown .. a pathetic old ugly woman .. a drag queen ... a pit bull .. a monkey .. a parasite ***************** End Of Article ****************** disgusted posted Message 2403 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 18:36:18 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired : :: I thought his hair & goatee made him look like a potential candidate for the lead in a revival of Damn Yankees. : : : Is it a coincidence that once Brian Dorf was fired that Cunningham has been on a winning streak? You call this campaign of Cunningham and Ayala on a winning streak .. I think you better look again .. I would say this campaign is on a losing streak .. Brian Dorf had it on a winning streak but when you put a team of idiots like Cunningham and Ayala together you get a team of losers .. ***************** End Of Article ****************** brain posted Message 2404 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 18:37:22 Subject: Re: Ayala takes blaim while Glenn is the idiot : Ayala takes all the heat for the stupid things Glenn does. How many times can the employee be blaimed for the stupidity of the boss? Well it seems that Glenn never does anything wrong but his second in command does everything wrong how can that be? Glenn hired the dude so isn't really Glenns problem. What kind of leader keeps going to the same source of problem after problem? The answer is Glenn is no leader at all please remove him from office as soon as possible. Since a factual statement like this can be considered racist like any critical approach to the failures of Glenn let me tell you as a black lesbian handicapped person I have no racial hatred for Glenn only sympathy for his inability to perform his job. Ayala and Cunningham are brain dead .. nothing upstairs but cob webs ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 2405 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2003 at 20:50:21 Subject: Re: Strange Days : Strange days. . . Anthony...this is really sick. How can you let this be posted on your board. What's next...White Aryan Resistance cartoons? You have allowed yourself to be used to a low that I find unbelievable. I am for free speech but this is as inflamatory as it can get. It is just WRONG for this racist crap to be posted on this board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2406 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 18, 2003 at 08:08:53 Subject: Corruption Jersey City, will never be a great place to live until we get rid od political corruption and the pay too play boys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2407 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 18, 2003 at 12:21:05 Subject: You should know. Corruption and pay to play were ok when you were on the payroll. Now you wanna get your boy Schundler back in so you can hose us some more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hiding from evil posted Message 2408 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 18, 2003 at 17:57:18 Subject: Menendez will be named as participant in HUD fraud case The Congressman will be named by the investigative staff of HUD in regards to several phony deals made on Northern New Jersey real estate deals this could bring down Ricki and the gang once and for all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hiding from evil posted Message 2409 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 18, 2003 at 17:59:39 Subject: Menendez working for Hilary camp to control DNC Menendez is working with the DNC on the late entry of the junior Senator from New York as Presidential Candidate. The Dean Camp has had the rug pulled from under their feet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** To the Point posted Message 2410 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 18, 2003 at 18:01:18 Subject: Ayala is just dumb Ayala is just plain Dumb. And Cunningham is an idiot to listen to him. Both will be nothing more than a bad memory in a couple years. Either Bret will return to clean up the mess (part he left behind...part created by the current crew of numb nuts) or the north will work with DeGise to pick a new mayor. Either way...The Cunningham Crew is toast in two years. : Ayala is no sane normal man .. This idiot and loser is a pathetic moran that needs to be removed from the administration and the face of this earth . He belongs 6 feet under with all the pathetic worms demons and devils .. He cannot perform any job nor can he perform in any other capacity either ... I vote to all band together and push real hard to get both Ayala and Cunningham out of this adminstration and flush their sorry butts down the political pipes of Jersey City .. Send them to Hell * * * * * : : : Ayala takes all the heat for the stupid things Glenn does. How many times can the employee be blaimed for the stupidity of the boss? Well it seems that Glenn never does anything wrong but his second in command does everything wrong how can that be? Glenn hired the dude so isn't really Glenns problem. What kind of leader keeps going to the same source of problem after problem? The answer is Glenn is no leader at all please remove him from office as soon as possible. Since a factual statement like this can be considered racist like any critical approach to the failures of Glenn let me tell you as a black lesbian handicapped person I have no racial hatred for Glenn only sympathy for his inability to perform his job. : : First, Ayala is not enough of a man to take the heat for his own stupid acts. He is a low-life worm who has no talent and no business playing in the big leagues. He has no talent, no fresh ideas, no common sense, no ability to deal with people, no credibility, not one characteristic necessary to rise to the level he has aspired to other than greed and ego. : : Second, just because Glenn is an idiot, does not mean Ayala should be given credit for anything other than getting out of bed in the morning. Ayala is an overpaid do-nothing j-rk and that alone allows others to put the burden on him to prove his worth. To date, he has proven nothing to the people of Jersey City other than his own over-blown view of himself. : : Glenn is at fault for foisting this idiot Ayala on us and for giving him greater responsibility than he can handle. Ayala should have nothing more than a shovel in his hand since that is the level of discourse he can understand. He has dug a hole for this administration, and its time he digs one for himself so that we don't have to smell the foul odor of his rotten ego anymore. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vper1 posted Message 2411 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 18, 2003 at 18:09:47 Subject: Re: You should know. : Corruption and pay to play were ok when you were on the payroll. Now you wanna get your boy Schundler back in so you can hose us some more. Way to go weezil--tell 'im ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vper1 posted Message 2412 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 18, 2003 at 18:12:57 Subject: Operation Barbarosa The fatal error in strategy that brought down the invincible Wehrmacht is about to repeat itself here. Hudson County will be the battleground of the two-front war that brings down HCDO thanks to the arrogance of its leader, Boss Bob. ***************** End Of Article ****************** news posted Message 2413 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 18, 2003 at 18:37:14 Subject: Fraguela changed parties check the link UNION CITY- 33rd. District Assemblyman Rafael Fraguela today disavowed his membership in the Republican Party and announced that he is returning to his roots as a Democrat. Fraguela also announced that he will vote as a member of the Assembly Democratic Majority Caucus. Fraguela said his decision is irreversible and takes effect immediately. He issued the following statement: I truly regret the decision I made earlier this year when I decided to part ways with the Democratic Party. It is all the more clear to me now how my decision to leave the Democrats was based on local politics and not on any philosophical disagreement with the Party’s values and issues. I have learned the hard way that there is little room for dissent in the Republican Caucus and their leadership is hostile in its dealings with independent-minded Hispanics. Even when I left the Democratic Party, the Democrats always treated me with respect. I believe my expulsion from the Assembly Republican Caucus was motivated out of racism because other Republicans had been allowed to cast votes counter to leadership’s position on other bills. It was worse than a dual standard. Republican leaders failed to recognize the difference between party discipline and dictatorial politics. As the son of Cuban refugees who left the island for the purpose of enjoying freedom, I am upset and disgusted with the way I was treated by Assembly Republican leaders. I firmly believe my vote on the stem cell research legislation was in the best interest of my largely Hispanic constituency and the State of New Jersey as a whole. I look forward to rejoining my true friends in the Democratic Caucus, where I fondly remember having the privilege to discuss issues and disagree without fear of intimidation or punishment. I wish to come home to the party that always treated me with respect and that always gave me an opportunity to express my opinion and vote my conscience. I am overjoyed at the prospects of coming home to the Democratic Party for the holidays ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Judge posted Message 2414 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 18, 2003 at 18:41:59 Subject: Re: One-Term Glenn : Bret's definately the lesser of two evils. Even though no doubt he would hate to hear it put that way ;) : If Bret runs again, Glenn is toast. : I can't stand either one of them, but that's the way it will be. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Two Sided Stupidity posted Message 2415 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 18, 2003 at 18:45:40 Subject: Re: Operation Barbarosa Don't forget Boss Glenn. There's two power-hungry lunatics in Hudson now. And a house divided against itself...can not stand. : The fatal error in strategy that brought down the invincible Wehrmacht is about to repeat itself here. Hudson County will be the battleground of the two-front war that brings down HCDO thanks to the arrogance of its leader, Boss Bob. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2416 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 19, 2003 at 03:35:26 Subject: Re: Fraguela changed parties : check the link : UNION CITY- 33rd. District Assemblyman Rafael Fraguela today disavowed his : membership in the Republican Party and announced that he is returning to his roots as a Democrat. . . . IS this the true Rafael? Click on the Link to see a video. Was that true, too? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 2417 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 19, 2003 at 07:00:12 Subject: Shocking news!! The JC website is under construction...did someone move heaven and earth without us knowing about it???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Someone posted Message 2418 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 19, 2003 at 12:39:41 Subject: Menendez Anti-Dean Camp Menendez has been ordered to rally the troops of Northern New Jersey against the Dean Camp. Menendez has been ordered to maintain the Clinton legacy within the Democratic Party. Hilary is running and Menendez is her choice for Vice President. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey Journal Editorial posted Message 2419 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 19, 2003 at 14:21:07 Subject: :Punished for voting his conscience Punished for voting his conscience The Jersey Journal Editorial Friday, December 19, 2003 On Monday, the state Assembly approved a bill to permit stem cell research in New Jersey, a measure supported by this newspaper in past editorials. There was a great deal of pressure placed on lawmakers by those on both sides of the argument, and inevitably it came down to the end of this legislative session. A few days before the vote, The Jersey Journal asked the Assembly members to show courage in voting for the bill, which when signed by the governor will open the door to innovative research that promises to aid those suffering from terminal illnesses. The bill specifically prohibits the cloning of human beings and also calls for an institutional review board to study issues related to stem cell research and advise the governor and Legislature. It's an attempt to put to rest opposition to research that has been condemned by the Roman Catholic Church. It hasn't quieted opponents, who insist that someone will find a loophole in the law. Debate on most legislation that day was brief, but the stem cell research bill resulted in about 55 minutes of discussion, both pro and con. What was disappointing was that the votes were cast along party lines, instead of on individual conscience. One Republican - or at least a recognized member of the GOP - was the only one in his party who did. Assemblyman Rafael Fraguela of Union City, who became a Republican earlier this year after a falling out with the Hudson County Democratic Organization, was kicked out of the GOP caucus because he broke the party line and voted for the bill. It was passed, 41-3, with seven Assembly members abstaining. Fraguela could have abstained, but to his credit, he did not. Because he failed to discuss his vote with Republican leaders beforehand, his action was considered a betrayal. Betrayal of what, a consensus to decide what was politically expedient? What made Fraguela's decision easy was the fact that on Jan. 13 he will be replaced in the Assembly by Union City Mayor Brian P. Stack, a Democrat. Still, the Republicans erred in trying to punish their colleague, who is a Cuban immigrant. They were on the wrong side of the vote, and now they're on the wrong side of Hispanic perception in Hudson County of their party. ***************** End Of Article ****************** disgusted 2 posted Message 2420 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 19, 2003 at 19:31:53 Subject: Re: Cunningham, Ayala, and Dorf start remedial idiots education : Look guys the voters want someone who is their friend and all you need to do is play race cards and shake hands let me do the real deals. Stop trying to think you are not capable of running a complexed urban structure like Jersey City first try a leggo set and try not to cut your hands on the edges. I would come back in 5 minutes to make sure they have not eaten one of the blocks they have an appetite for things that belong to other people like contracts awarded to their friends. End the Cunningham Machine only because its like the clown car at the circus the only purpose it serves is to pack as many clowns as possible into its trunk and Ayala and Glenn are one clown to many. Who would want to shake hands with a lying two faced venomous monkey like Ayala or Cunningham .. These guys are losers .. get them out of here .. they don't belong in this political ring .. they belong in a circus ***************** End Of Article ****************** disgusted posted Message 2421 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 19, 2003 at 19:40:39 Subject: Re: One-Term Glenn : : Bret's definately the lesser of two evils. Even though no doubt he would hate to hear it put that way ;) : : If Bret runs again, Glenn is toast. : : I can't stand either one of them, but that's the way it will be. Cunningham is toast already .. hope his sorry butt is out here soon ***************** End Of Article ****************** elnino posted Message 2422 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 19, 2003 at 23:26:06 Subject: Re: Fraguela changed parties check Arango response! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2423 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 20, 2003 at 08:11:05 Subject: Hi my friend.... I know you & I agree on more things than we realize & can agree to disagree. WELL.... I found the cartoon to be offensive. (And Tony, I am saddened that you are allowing in to remain.) It keeps "we the people" from moving forward & growing. It keeps Jersey City from accomplishing & reaching its goals ON THE OTHER HAND... Anyone who has ever been to the Council meetings knows full well who the Council president is (hint: His last name starts with a G). I have come to the conclusion that all our politicians are craven. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2424 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 20, 2003 at 08:13:22 Subject: Saddam's cousin.... already on Council. (Sits left of Harvey) ;-) ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2425 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 20, 2003 at 09:22:20 Subject: Jersey Journal Story: Asbury Park Corruption Player Claimed Hudson County Lawyer had experience "under the table," including a matter with Gov. James E. McGreevey when he was mayor of Woodbridge See the Link for the story. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RP posted Message 2426 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 20, 2003 at 09:35:33 Subject: Typical UTN crap. Harvey, Don't let this bother you..take it from where it is coming from.. A low life punk named Bobby Jackson! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sue has as Secret posted Message 2427 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 20, 2003 at 10:49:55 Subject: Why is Sue Mack Covering For Him ? Get ready to hear the Sue Mack Story. This is just the Tip of the Iceberg! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2428 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 20, 2003 at 14:41:22 Subject: I am as WASP As you can get & I attend Council meetings. A mean, vindictive, red-faced rummy undertaker is the one pulling the strings at the meetings. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer Sux !! posted Message 2429 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 20, 2003 at 22:36:56 Subject: Same old crap. The story about Sue Mack is : she is one of the hardest working and most dedicated professionals in Jersey City. She has toiled tirelessly for the people at the Board of Education and in her positions at the City and County levels, as well as the JCRA. We haven't heard this secret sue crap in a while. I guess Glazer has crawled out from under his rock. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 2430 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 21, 2003 at 04:08:21 Subject: Re: Same old crap. He did this same tired piece last year about this time...what is it with him. I agree with you...Sue Mack is an asset to Jersey City and now, having met her, I know her to be very dedicated and passionate about Jersey City. Too bad Steve can't get past his agenda. : The story about Sue Mack is : she is one of the hardest working and most dedicated professionals in Jersey City. She has toiled tirelessly for the people at the Board of Education and in her positions at the City and County levels, as well as the JCRA. : We haven't heard this secret sue crap in a while. I guess Glazer has crawled out from under his rock. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anthony Russo Civic Association posted Message 2431 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 22, 2003 at 04:08:54 Subject: Russo Civic Association And Santa Visits St.Mary's Hospital Pediatrics Ward The Russo Civic Association visited St.Mary's Hospital pediatrics ward on December 20, 2003. Councilperson Michael Russo and Councilwoman Theresa Castellano were there with Santa Claus giving gitfs to the children. We wish everyone a safe and healthy holiday season. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2432 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 22, 2003 at 13:35:31 Subject: Re: But, if : : But if the coach for the winner is an knucklehead then what do you have to say about the coach for the losers? : Nothing much to say for them either. That's the problem...a fundamental lack of talent all around. And more than sufficient greed. Ayala is a major lack of talent .. not to mention other things .. get this guy out of jersey city politics .. he is a menace to society ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2433 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 22, 2003 at 15:21:51 Subject: RECALL STEVE LIPSKI Signs Some person or persons unknown (to me anyhow) have installed a number of professionally made (red vinyl letters on white plastic board, around 24" X 18") signs that read RECALL STEVE LIPSKI. The word RECALL is big and bold and can be seen from blocks away. The artiste skimped on the STEVE LIPSKI message; you've basically got to be right at the pole in order to read it. I'd guess that someone driving is going to miss it (unless they are stopped just at the corner for a red light). There are 3 or 4 at Five Corners and another 3 or 4 at Summit and State Hwy (that I know of). What's the point? Is this some sort of quid pro quo for the threats to recall some other members of the council? Does anybody know and care to relate the pariculars. Me, myself -- I'm a 33rd degree practitioner of the negative message AND a great lover of signs. BUT, considering that we are in the Holiday weeks, it seems both a tad unnecessarily nasty AND a something of a waste of time/energy (considering that the general public is thinking of anything but politics now). ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uber This posted Message 2434 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 22, 2003 at 16:56:52 Subject: Re: RECALL STEVE LIPSKI Signs : Some person or persons unknown (to me anyhow) have installed a number of professionally made (red vinyl letters on white plastic board, around 24" X 18") signs that read RECALL STEVE LIPSKI. The word RECALL is big and bold and can be seen from blocks away. The artiste skimped on the STEVE LIPSKI message; you've basically got to be right at the pole in order to read it. I'd guess that someone driving is going to miss it (unless they are stopped just at the corner for a red light). There are 3 or 4 at Five Corners and another 3 or 4 at Summit and State Hwy (that I know of). : What's the point? Is this some sort of quid pro quo for the threats to recall some other members of the council? Does anybody know and care to relate the pariculars. : Me, myself -- I'm a 33rd degree practitioner of the negative message AND a great lover of signs. BUT, considering that we are in the Holiday weeks, it seems both a tad unnecessarily nasty AND a something of a waste of time/energy (considering that the general public is thinking of anything but politics now). You try to sound impartial but you are nothing but a Cunningham apologist. This is nasty but the racist cartoon about LHS stays on your site without comment. This site is the hi-tec UTN. Hi- tec but low brow. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2435 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 22, 2003 at 18:37:44 Subject: Tonite on Hudson County's Talking Abuse of office by the County Clerk are we back to the ways of Bobby J?...Jersey Citys 3rd 911 memorial how big is to big?, McGreevey and Hudson dems back Dean well not all the Hudson dems want to take a wild guess who's backing someone else?...all this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 2436 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 23, 2003 at 04:35:20 Subject: GOLDMAN SACHS ENDORSES DEBT RESTRUCTURING-GAUGHAN, COUNCIL UNIMPRESSED By UTN NEWS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uber That posted Message 2437 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 23, 2003 at 06:29:19 Subject: Re: RECALL STEVE LIPSKI Signs Signs put up by the toothless, drooling minions of HCDO who have no life. What inspires such loyalty in a group to think they will get jobs promised them or back after HCDO fires them or that being made an aide at minimum wage signals (to them only) importance within the organization. HAHAHAHAHA, what fools these mortals be! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2438 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 23, 2003 at 07:59:04 Subject: Wunnerful! Wunnerful! : : Some person or persons unknown (to me anyhow) have installed a number of professionally made (red vinyl letters on white plastic board, around 24" X 18") signs that read RECALL STEVE LIPSKI. The word RECALL is big and bold and can be seen from blocks away. The artiste skimped on the STEVE LIPSKI message; you've basically got to be right at the pole in order to read it. I'd guess that someone driving is going to miss it (unless they are stopped just at the corner for a red light). There are 3 or 4 at Five Corners and another 3 or 4 at Summit and State Hwy (that I know of). : : What's the point? Is this some sort of quid pro quo for the threats to recall some other members of the council? Does anybody know and care to relate the particulars? : : Me, myself -- I'm a 33rd degree practitioner of the negative message AND a great lover of signs. BUT, considering that we are in the Holiday weeks, it seems both a tad unnecessarily nasty AND something of a waste of time/energy (considering that the general public is thinking of anything but politics now). : You try to sound impartial but you are nothing but a Cunningham apologist. This is nasty but the racist cartoon about LHS stays on your site without comment. This site is the hi-tec UTN. Hi- tec but low brow. Wunnerful! Wunnerful! Yer, jess' doin' GREAT! Keep up the good work! If you don't get what you want, THREATEN! (Don't for a second think that not everybody in Hudson County's got a cousin pickin' up a paycheck from the DPW in North Bergen.) If that don't work, pout and spout saccharin laced whine about how "YOU'RE NOT NICE!" Like nice means anything in this landscape of mushroom clouds, Last Suppers, and Marilyn Monroes.... And the calls for racial solidarity against the onslaught of the untermenschen are sooo nostalgic! Strut, preen, prance, hoot and holler every 6 months or so (like ya' got a date with Monica Lewinksy) that a BIG NAME is gonna pull yer collective derriere out from amongst the coals. Start with "fighting fire with fire" by enlisting someone "beloved in Greenville." That one really confused me when I heard it -- for the life of me, I had no idea who they were talking about. When I was informed that the individual in question was "Why, our canidate for Senate in the 31st, Harvey Smith, of course." I was wondering if it was like an inside joke or something. Basically, over the last ten years, the only people I ever heard extolling the virtues of Harvey Smith were the owner of an Italian deli (who lived out-of-town) and (I'm not making this up) the former head of the Hoboken Motorcycle Club. Next, as it becomes obvious that the only thing Smith is any good for is increasing the circulation of the Urban Times News, grab that notorious miserable failure and bottom scraper in public opinion, James McGreevey. (And, go figger, they even hadda twist HIS arm to get him to step foot in Hudson County. I really loved Doria havin' to calm the Guv down and reassure him that "You're in BAYONNE!" ... like the thought of being in Jersey City had the Guv's knees knockin') Come up with some sorta house survey that, though ranking just above Osama Bin Laden in popularity in every other nook and cranny, HUDSON LOVES McGREEVEY! (If that was true, what would that have said about the residents of Hudson County? ... the lobotomites answering the questions, anyhow.) Ignore the fact that, in the best tradition of the police state, for generations people in Hudson County have been trained to say whatever they think the Dem establishment wants to hear. (And don't pull outta the attic how McGreevey won big here in 2001 -- if it wasn't for the back stabbin' Don D orchestratin' the light opera of the missing 54 million, that never woulda happened. Get 'em off to the side, private-like, and the old timers will be happy to tell you how McGreevey makes them wanna throw up (he just reeks of the little snitch-crum in every grammar school class across the state), but, being that "SCHUNDLER RAN OFF WITH 54 MILLION" they held their nose and voted for James E.) And might one ask, who's next in what's startin' to look like what Ali called the Bum of the Month Club? And afterwards, hold a press conference. Don't apoligize to the voters! Don't announce how you're cleanin' house by shakin' out all the campaign sleazes who insulted everyone in Jersey City (and the intelligence of every voter in Hudson County). Nah, nah... throw a temper tantrum an' blame the Internet and the Urban Times News! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dock Ellis posted Message 2439 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 23, 2003 at 09:04:30 Subject: Re: Stay Away From the Tower, Anthony : : : Some person or persons unknown (to me anyhow) have installed a number of professionally made (red vinyl letters on white plastic board, around 24" X 18") signs that read RECALL STEVE LIPSKI. The word RECALL is big and bold and can be seen from blocks away. The artiste skimped on the STEVE LIPSKI message; you've basically got to be right at the pole in order to read it. I'd guess that someone driving is going to miss it (unless they are stopped just at the corner for a red light). There are 3 or 4 at Five Corners and another 3 or 4 at Summit and State Hwy (that I know of). : : : What's the point? Is this some sort of quid pro quo for the threats to recall some other members of the council? Does anybody know and care to relate the particulars? : : : Me, myself -- I'm a 33rd degree practitioner of the negative message AND a great lover of signs. BUT, considering that we are in the Holiday weeks, it seems both a tad unnecessarily nasty AND something of a waste of time/energy (considering that the general public is thinking of anything but politics now). : : You try to sound impartial but you are nothing but a Cunningham apologist. This is nasty but the racist cartoon about LHS stays on your site without comment. This site is the hi-tec UTN. Hi- tec but low brow. : Wunnerful! Wunnerful! : Yer, jess' doin' GREAT! Keep up the good work! : If you don't get what you want, THREATEN! (Don't for a second think that not everybody in Hudson County's got a cousin pickin' up a paycheck from the DPW in North Bergen.) If that don't work, pout and spout saccharin laced whine about how "YOU'RE NOT NICE!" Like nice means anything in this landscape of mushroom clouds, Last Suppers, and Marilyn Monroes.... And the calls for racial solidarity against the onslaught of the untermenschen are sooo nostalgic! : Strut, preen, prance, hoot and holler every 6 months or so (like ya' got a date with Monica Lewinksy) that a BIG NAME is gonna pull yer collective derriere out from amongst the coals. Start with "fighting fire with fire" by enlisting someone "beloved in Greenville." That one really confused me when I heard it -- for the life of me, I had no idea who they were talking about. When I was informed that the individual in question was "Why, our canidate for Senate in the 31st, Harvey Smith, of course." I was wondering if it was like an inside joke or something. Basically, over the last ten years, the only people I ever heard extolling the virtues of Harvey Smith were the owner of an Italian deli (who lived out-of-town) and (I'm not making this up) the former head of the Hoboken Motorcycle Club. Next, as it becomes obvious that the only thing Smith is any good for is increasing the circulation of the Urban Times News, grab that notorious miserable failure and bottom scraper in public opinion, James McGreevey. (And, go figger, they even hadda twist HIS arm to get him to step foot in Hudson County. I really loved Doria havin' to calm the Guv down and reassure him that "You're in BAYONNE!" ... like the thought of being in Jersey City had the Guv's knees knockin') Come up with some sorta house survey that, though ranking just above Osama Bin Laden in popularity in every other nook and cranny, HUDSON LOVES McGREEVEY! (If that was true, what would that have said about the residents of Hudson County? ... the lobotomites answering the questions, anyhow.) Ignore the fact that, in the best tradition of the police state, for generations people in Hudson County have been trained to say whatever they think the Dem establishment wants to hear. (And don't pull outta the attic how McGreevey won big here in 2001 -- if it wasn't for the back stabbin' Don D orchestratin' the light opera of the missing 54 million, that never woulda happened. Get 'em off to the side, private-like, and the old timers will be happy to tell you how McGreevey makes them wanna throw up (he just reeks of the little snitch-crum in every grammar school class across the state), but, being that "SCHUNDLER RAN OFF WITH 54 MILLION" they held their nose and voted for James E.) And might one ask, who's next in what's startin' to look like what Ali called the Bum of the Month Club? : And afterwards, hold a press conference. Don't apoligize to the voters! Don't announce how you're cleanin' house by shakin' out all the campaign sleazes who insulted everyone in Jersey City (and the intelligence of every voter in Hudson County). Nah, nah... throw a temper tantrum an' blame the Internet and the Urban Times News! Calm down old fella. No one threatened you that I saw. And that 54 million dollar lie is being perpetrated by your new hero GC. He can't get 2 sentences out without mentioning it. And because you personally don't like LHS you can justify having his character assasinated on your site.But poor Benedict Lipski gets a pole sign about him tacked up and it is too nasty for your sensibilities. Look in the mirror , you're a first class wacko and world class phoney. You worked for BS right. But you're a professional not a hack like the rest of us, right.Hey Anthony, he lost, get over it. You are of the same ilk as the flea bag Glazer except he spells better. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2440 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 23, 2003 at 11:10:19 Subject: Smith didn't sink Smith. : : : : Some person or persons unknown (to me anyhow) have installed a number of professionally made (red vinyl letters on white plastic board, around 24" X 18") signs that read RECALL STEVE LIPSKI. The word RECALL is big and bold and can be seen from blocks away. The artiste skimped on the STEVE LIPSKI message; you've basically got to be right at the pole in order to read it. I'd guess that someone driving is going to miss it (unless they are stopped just at the corner for a red light). There are 3 or 4 at Five Corners and another 3 or 4 at Summit and State Hwy (that I know of). : : : : What's the point? Is this some sort of quid pro quo for the threats to recall some other members of the council? Does anybody know and care to relate the particulars? : : : : Me, myself -- I'm a 33rd degree practitioner of the negative message AND a great lover of signs. BUT, considering that we are in the Holiday weeks, it seems both a tad unnecessarily nasty AND something of a waste of time/energy (considering that the general public is thinking of anything but politics now). : : : You try to sound impartial but you are nothing but a Cunningham apologist. This is nasty but the racist cartoon about LHS stays on your site without comment. This site is the hi-tec UTN. Hi- tec but low brow. : : Wunnerful! Wunnerful! : : Yer, jess' doin' GREAT! Keep up the good work! : : If you don't get what you want, THREATEN! (Don't for a second think that not everybody in Hudson County's got a cousin pickin' up a paycheck from the DPW in North Bergen.) If that don't work, pout and spout saccharin laced whine about how "YOU'RE NOT NICE!" Like nice means anything in this landscape of mushroom clouds, Last Suppers, and Marilyn Monroes.... And the calls for racial solidarity against the onslaught of the untermenschen are sooo nostalgic! : : Strut, preen, prance, hoot and holler every 6 months or so (like ya' got a date with Monica Lewinksy) that a BIG NAME is gonna pull yer collective derriere out from amongst the coals. Start with "fighting fire with fire" by enlisting someone "beloved in Greenville." That one really confused me when I heard it -- for the life of me, I had no idea who they were talking about. When I was informed that the individual in question was "Why, our canidate for Senate in the 31st, Harvey Smith, of course." I was wondering if it was like an inside joke or something. Basically, over the last ten years, the only people I ever heard extolling the virtues of Harvey Smith were the owner of an Italian deli (who lived out-of-town) and (I'm not making this up) the former head of the Hoboken Motorcycle Club. Next, as it becomes obvious that the only thing Smith is any good for is increasing the circulation of the Urban Times News, grab that notorious miserable failure and bottom scraper in public opinion, James McGreevey. (And, go figger, they even hadda twist HIS arm to get him to step foot in Hudson County. I really loved Doria havin' to calm the Guv down and reassure him that "You're in BAYONNE!" ... like the thought of being in Jersey City had the Guv's knees knockin') Come up with some sorta house survey that, though ranking just above Osama Bin Laden in popularity in every other nook and cranny, HUDSON LOVES McGREEVEY! (If that was true, what would that have said about the residents of Hudson County? ... the lobotomites answering the questions, anyhow.) Ignore the fact that, in the best tradition of the police state, for generations people in Hudson County have been trained to say whatever they think the Dem establishment wants to hear. (And don't pull outta the attic how McGreevey won big here in 2001 -- if it wasn't for the back stabbin' Don D orchestratin' the light opera of the missing 54 million, that never woulda happened. Get 'em off to the side, private-like, and the old timers will be happy to tell you how McGreevey makes them wanna throw up (he just reeks of the little snitch-crum in every grammar school class across the state), but, being that "SCHUNDLER RAN OFF WITH 54 MILLION" they held their nose and voted for James E.) And might one ask, who's next in what's startin' to look like what Ali called the Bum of the Month Club? : : And afterwards, hold a press conference. Don't apoligize to the voters! Don't announce how you're cleanin' house by shakin' out all the campaign sleazes who insulted everyone in Jersey City (and the intelligence of every voter in Hudson County). Nah, nah... throw a temper tantrum an' blame the Internet and the Urban Times News! : Calm down old fella. No one threatened you that I saw. And that 54 million dollar lie is being perpetrated by your new hero GC. He can't get 2 sentences out without mentioning it. And because you personally don't like LHS you can justify having his character assasinated on your site.But poor Benedict Lipski gets a pole sign about him tacked up and it is too nasty for your sensibilities. Look in the mirror , you're a first class wacko and world class phoney. You worked for BS right. But you're a professional not a hack like the rest of us, right.Hey Anthony, he lost, get over it. You are of the same ilk as the flea bag Glazer except he spells better. And, whenever you can grab a reporter by the sleeve, DON'T GIVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER TO NOTHIN'! Spin and rattle off all sorts of Howard Cosellesque "analysis" and prognostication. The latest and greatest example: the reelection chances of Lou Manzo. The guy's not even sworn in, and still there's every variety of yimmer and yammer, on and on, about how "without Glenn leading the ticket, we can knock Lou off 2 years from now." (Like the general public cares if political insiders are miffed. Whatever you do, don't use half a brain and (at least publicly) wish him luck and state how you earnestly hope that the constituents are well served.) I gotta laugh, the cookie-cutter press actually takes the hoopla seriously. Neither Lou Manzo nor Tony Chiappone probably know yet where they keep the paper clips at the Statehouse, but every time someone shows up with a microphone, this 2 years from now parrot squaks like it's some profound question on a pressing issue. In Hudson County politics, 2 years is like 200 years. What's Lou Manzo going to be running for at that fork in the road? And, by the way, as a reading of the original text will elicit, the point was not halo-held-up-by-a-wire DON'T BE MEAN TO STEVE LIPSKI, but instead a rather callous assesment that the attack was a wasted effort due to poor timing. During the holidays, most people won't even notice. The ones that do notice, won't like it. Mind you, we are talking about the general public, not the inhabitants of 280 Grove, 583 Newark, et al. who visit this Board. It's hard for people that make a living off this stuff to imagine, but Jane and/or Joe Citizen don't want to hear about politcs except during election season. And this ignores the even more basic fact, if y'ain't payin' attention AND ya don't have a sharp set of peepers, y'ain't even gonna know the signs're there, NOHOW! I've got nothing against Harvey Smith. Actually, raised up as I am from the dust of Jersey City, I'm actually in awe. How can somebody do so well by doing nothing? I wish I knew the secret. After I was told the "beloved in Greenville" hocus pocus, I thought to myself, "Gee, this is the HCDO. That's like the Rolling Stones of politics. They must know something that I don't." So, just as I meander about town, I ask people what they think. The ones that have an opinion hold Smith's candidacy in contempt. "Well," I think, "perhaps they are afraid you're making some sort of report that the mayor's office is gonna get wind of and so only will give what they figger is the "correct" response." So, now I seek out seasoned observers of Hudson County politics, but those who don't have any direct involvement in this election. Here's how the opinions ran: "I got no idea what the HCDO might be thinking," "Glenn's got it," and "Smith is gonna lose and lose big." BTW, before you guys picked Smith, did you walk around and ask people what they thought? Or, stand in line at the supermarket and listen to what people are saying? Strangely enough, from what I've seen, NOBODY tries to find out what people are thinking (versus what they might tell a pollster). During the campaign, I wrote that the attacks on Smith's lack of ability to communicate well were misplaced, for in interviews he conducted himself well. Smith didn't sink Smith. What ruined it for Smith was HIS campaign. If Smith was portrayed as a good guy, champion of youth, family man, former college basketball star, etc., he'd have had a shot. Instead, we kept hearing only that Harvey was a TEAM PLAYER. Wake up guys! Maybe your bartender worries if you're happy, but the voters certainly don't! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uber This posted Message 2441 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 23, 2003 at 21:11:19 Subject: How Glazeresque Of You : : : : : Some person or persons unknown (to me anyhow) have installed a number of professionally made (red vinyl letters on white plastic board, around 24" X 18") signs that read RECALL STEVE LIPSKI. The word RECALL is big and bold and can be seen from blocks away. The artiste skimped on the STEVE LIPSKI message; you've basically got to be right at the pole in order to read it. I'd guess that someone driving is going to miss it (unless they are stopped just at the corner for a red light). There are 3 or 4 at Five Corners and another 3 or 4 at Summit and State Hwy (that I know of). : : : : : What's the point? Is this some sort of quid pro quo for the threats to recall some other members of the council? Does anybody know and care to relate the particulars? : : : : : Me, myself -- I'm a 33rd degree practitioner of the negative message AND a great lover of signs. BUT, considering that we are in the Holiday weeks, it seems both a tad unnecessarily nasty AND something of a waste of time/energy (considering that the general public is thinking of anything but politics now). : : : : You try to sound impartial but you are nothing but a Cunningham apologist. This is nasty but the racist cartoon about LHS stays on your site without comment. This site is the hi-tec UTN. Hi- tec but low brow. : : : Wunnerful! Wunnerful! : : : Yer, jess' doin' GREAT! Keep up the good work! : : : If you don't get what you want, THREATEN! (Don't for a second think that not everybody in Hudson County's got a cousin pickin' up a paycheck from the DPW in North Bergen.) If that don't work, pout and spout saccharin laced whine about how "YOU'RE NOT NICE!" Like nice means anything in this landscape of mushroom clouds, Last Suppers, and Marilyn Monroes.... And the calls for racial solidarity against the onslaught of the untermenschen are sooo nostalgic! : : : Strut, preen, prance, hoot and holler every 6 months or so (like ya' got a date with Monica Lewinksy) that a BIG NAME is gonna pull yer collective derriere out from amongst the glowing coals. Start with "fighting fire with fire" by enlisting someone "beloved in Greenville." That one really confused me when I heard it -- for the life of me, I had no idea who they were talking about. When I was informed that the individual in question was "Why, our canidate for Senate in the 31st, Harvey Smith, of course." I was wondering if it was like an inside joke or something. Basically, over the last ten years, the only people I ever heard extolling the virtues of Harvey Smith were the owner of an Italian deli (who lived out-of-town) and (I'm not making this up) the former head of the Hoboken Motorcycle Club. Next, as it becomes obvious that the only thing Smith is any good for is increasing the circulation of the Urban Times News, grab that notorious miserable failure and bottom scraper in public opinion polls, James McGreevey. (And, go figger, they even hadda twist HIS arm to get him to set foot in Hudson County. I really loved Doria havin' to calm down the Guv and reassure him that "You're in BAYONNE!" ... like the thought of being in Jersey City had the Guv's knees knockin') Come up with some sorta house survey that, though ranking just above Osama Bin Laden in popularity in every other nook and cranny, HUDSON LOVES McGREEVEY! (If that was true, what would that have said about the residents of Hudson County? ... the lobotomites answering the questions, anyhow.) Ignore the fact that, in the best tradition of the police state, for generations people in Hudson County have been trained to say whatever they think the Dem establishment wants to hear. (And don't pull outta the attic how McGreevey won big here in 2001 -- if it wasn't for the back stabbin' Don D orchestratin' the light opera of the missing 54 million, that never woulda happened. Get 'em off to the side, private-like, and the old timers will be happy to tell you how McGreevey makes them wanna throw up (he just reeks of the little snitch-crum in every grammar school class across the state), but, being that "SCHUNDLER RAN OFF WITH 54 MILLION" they held their nose and voted for James E.) And might one ask, who's next in what's startin' to look like what boxing legend Muhammad Ali called the Bum of the Month Club? : : : And afterwards, hold a press conference. Don't apologize to the voters! Don't announce how you're cleanin' house by shakin' out all the campaign sleazes who insulted everyone in Jersey City (and the intelligence of every voter in Hudson County). Nah, nah... throw a temper tantrum an' blame the Internet and the Urban Times News! : : Calm down old fella. No one threatened you that I saw. And that 54 million dollar lie is being perpetrated by your new hero GC. He can't get 2 sentences out without mentioning it. And because you personally don't like LHS you can justify having his character assasinated on your site.But poor Benedict Lipski gets a pole sign about him tacked up and it is too nasty for your sensibilities. Look in the mirror , you're a first class wacko and world class phoney. You worked for BS right. But you're a professional not a hack like the rest of us, right.Hey Anthony, he lost, get over it. You are of the same ilk as the flea bag Glazer except he spells better. : And, whenever you can grab a reporter by the sleeve, DON'T GIVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER TO NOTHIN'! Spin and rattle off all sorts of Howard Cosellesque "analysis" and prognostication. The latest and greatest example: the reelection chances of Lou Manzo. The guy's not even sworn in, and still there's every variety of yimmer and yammer, on and on, about how "without Glenn leading the ticket, we can knock Lou off 2 years from now." (Like the general public cares if political insiders are miffed. Whatever you do, don't use half a brain and (at least publicly) wish him luck and state how you earnestly hope that the constituents are well served.) I gotta laugh, the cookie-cutter press actually takes the hoopla seriously. Neither Lou Manzo nor Tony Chiappone probably knows yet where they keep the paper clips at the Statehouse, but every time someone shows up with a microphone, this 2 years from now parrot squaks like it's some profound question on a pressing issue. : In Hudson County politics, 2 years is like 200 years. What's Lou Manzo going to be running for at that fork in the road? : And, by the way, as a reading of the original text will elicit, the point was not halo-held-up-by-a-wire DON'T BE MEAN TO STEVE LIPSKI, but instead a rather callous assesment that the attack was a wasted effort due to poor timing. During the holidays, most people won't even notice. The ones that do notice, won't like it. Mind you, we are talking about the general public, not the inhabitants of 280 Grove, 583 Newark, et al. who visit this Board. It's hard for people that make a living off this stuff to imagine, but Jane and/or Joe Citizen don't want to hear about politcs except during election season. And this ignores the even more basic fact, if y'ain't payin' attention AND ya don't have a sharp set of peepers, y'ain't even gonna know the signs're there, NOHOW! : I've got nothing against Harvey Smith. Actually, raised up as I am from the dust of Jersey City, I'm in awe. How can somebody do so well by doing nothing? I wish I knew the secret. : After I was told the "beloved in Greenville" hocus pocus, I thought to myself, "Gee, this is the HCDO. That's like the Rolling Stones of politics. They must know something that I don't." So, just as I meander about town, I ask people what they think. The ones that have an opinion hold Smith's candidacy in contempt. "Well," I think, "perhaps they are afraid you're making some sort of report that the mayor's office is gonna get wind of and so only will give what they figger is the "correct" response." So, now I seek out seasoned observers of Hudson County politics, but those who don't have any direct involvement in this election. Here's how the opinions ran: "I got no idea what the HCDO might be thinking," "Glenn's got it," and "Smith is gonna lose and lose big." : BTW, before you guys picked Smith, did you walk around and ask people what they thought? Or, stand in line at the supermarket and listen to what people are saying? Strangely enough, from what I've seen, NOBODY tries to find out what people are thinking (versus what they might tell a pollster). : During the campaign, I wrote that the attacks on Smith for being inarticulate were misplaced, for in interviews he conducted himself well. Smith didn't sink Smith. What ruined it for Smith was HIS campaign. If Smith was portrayed as a good guy, champion of youth, family man, former college basketball star, etc., he'd have had a shot. Instead, we kept hearing only that Harvey was a TEAM PLAYER. Wake up guys! Maybe your bartender worries if you're happy, but the voters certainly don't! You know you're getting pretty good at this AO. Your extenive quoting of anonymous sources was a nice touch. And no one speaks for the common Joe in the street live you do. A regular Everyman you are. Of course all you said was LHS was a helluva nice guy misused by others. His real friends are the ones who call him "uncle" and subject him to racist and degrading cartoons. And no one will ever see those silly signs that were illy designed, poorly placed and put up at the wrong time. Except that you did. And so did the little weasle who used DPW workers on city time to hunt them down. Remember, there is nothing wrong with being the butt boy for the UTN. Glazer is making a living at it. And when BS comes back you'll be returned to your deserved place of privlege. Maybe no one will notice how pathetic you've become. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2442 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 24, 2003 at 05:10:53 Subject: strange interlude of the wink, wink SAVE US FROM GLENN CUNNINGHAM mailing : : : : : : Some person or persons unknown (to me anyhow) have installed a number of professionally made (red vinyl letters on white plastic board, around 24" X 18") signs that read RECALL STEVE LIPSKI. The word RECALL is big and bold and can be seen from blocks away. The artiste skimped on the STEVE LIPSKI message; you've basically got to be right at the pole in order to read it. I'd guess that someone driving is going to miss it (unless they are stopped just at the corner for a red light). There are 3 or 4 at Five Corners and another 3 or 4 at Summit and State Hwy (that I know of). : : : : : : What's the point? Is this some sort of quid pro quo for the threats to recall some other members of the council? Does anybody know and care to relate the particulars? : : : : : : Me, myself -- I'm a 33rd degree practitioner of the negative message AND a great lover of signs. BUT, considering that we are in the Holiday weeks, it seems both a tad unnecessarily nasty AND something of a waste of time/energy (considering that the general public is thinking of anything but politics now). : : : : : You try to sound impartial but you are nothing but a Cunningham apologist. This is nasty but the racist cartoon about LHS stays on your site without comment. This site is the hi-tec UTN. Hi- tec but low brow. : : : : Wunnerful! Wunnerful! : : : : Yer, jess' doin' GREAT! Keep up the good work! : : : : If you don't get what you want, THREATEN! (Don't for a second think that not everybody in Hudson County's got a cousin pickin' up a paycheck from the DPW in North Bergen.) If that don't work, pout and spout saccharin laced whine about how "YOU'RE NOT NICE!" Like nice means anything in this landscape of mushroom clouds, Last Suppers, and Marilyn Monroes.... And the calls for racial solidarity against the onslaught of the untermenschen are sooo nostalgic! : : : : Strut, preen, prance, hoot and holler every 6 months or so (like ya' got a date with Monica Lewinksy) that a BIG NAME is gonna pull yer collective derriere out from amongst the glowing coals. Start with "fighting fire with fire" by enlisting someone "beloved in Greenville." That one really confused me when I heard it -- for the life of me, I had no idea who they were talking about. When I was informed that the individual in question was "Why, our canidate for Senate in the 31st, Harvey Smith, of course." I was wondering if it was like an inside joke or something. Basically, over the last ten years, the only people I ever heard extolling the virtues of Harvey Smith were the owner of an Italian deli (who lived out-of-town) and (I'm not making this up) the former head of the Hoboken Motorcycle Club. Next, as it becomes obvious that the only thing Smith is any good for is increasing the circulation of the Urban Times News, grab that notorious miserable failure and bottom scraper in public opinion polls, James McGreevey. (And, go figger, they even hadda twist HIS arm to get him to set foot in Hudson County. I really loved Doria havin' to calm down the Guv and reassure him that "You're in BAYONNE!" ... like the thought of being in Jersey City had the Guv's knees knockin') Come up with some sorta house survey showing how, though ranking just above Osama Bin Laden in popularity in every other nook and cranny, HUDSON LOVES McGREEVEY! (If that was true, what would that have said about the residents of Hudson County? ... the lobotomites answering the questions, anyhow.) Ignore the fact that, in the best tradition of the police state, for generations people in Hudson County have been trained to say whatever they think the Dem establishment wants to hear. (And don't pull outta the attic how McGreevey won big here in 2001 -- if it wasn't for the back stabbin' Don D orchestratin' the light opera of the missing 54 million, that never woulda happened. Get 'em off to the side, private-like, and the old timers will be happy to tell you how McGreevey makes them wanna throw up (he just reeks of the little snitch-crum in every grammar school class across the state), but, being that "SCHUNDLER RAN OFF WITH 54 MILLION" they held their nose and voted for James E.) And might one ask, who's next in what's startin' to look like what boxing legend Muhammad Ali called the Bum of the Month Club? : : : : And afterwards, hold a press conference. Don't apologize to the voters! Don't announce how you're cleanin' house by shakin' out all the campaign sleazes who insulted everyone in Jersey City (and the intelligence of every voter in Hudson County). Nah, nah... throw a temper tantrum an' blame the Internet and the Urban Times News! : : : Calm down old fella. No one threatened you that I saw. And that 54 million dollar lie is being perpetrated by your new hero GC. He can't get 2 sentences out without mentioning it. And because you personally don't like LHS you can justify having his character assasinated on your site.But poor Benedict Lipski gets a pole sign about him tacked up and it is too nasty for your sensibilities. Look in the mirror , you're a first class wacko and world class phoney. You worked for BS right. But you're a professional not a hack like the rest of us, right.Hey Anthony, he lost, get over it. You are of the same ilk as the flea bag Glazer except he spells better. : : And, whenever you can grab a reporter by the sleeve, DON'T GIVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER TO NOTHIN'! Spin and rattle off all sorts of Howard Cosellesque "analysis" and prognostication. The latest and greatest example: the reelection chances of Lou Manzo. The guy's not even sworn in, and still there's every variety of yimmer and yammer, on and on, about how "without Glenn leading the ticket, we can knock Lou off 2 years from now." (Like the general public cares if political insiders are miffed. Whatever you do, don't use half a brain and (at least publicly) wish him luck and state how you earnestly hope that the constituents are well served.) I gotta laugh, the cookie-cutter press actually takes the hoopla seriously. Neither Lou Manzo nor Tony Chiappone probably knows yet where they keep the paper clips at the Statehouse, but every time someone shows up with a microphone, this 2 years from now parrot squaks like it's some profound question on a pressing issue. : : In Hudson County politics, 2 years is like 200 years. What's Lou Manzo going to be running for at that fork in the road? : : And, by the way, as a reading of the original text will elicit, the point was not halo-held-up-by-a-wire DON'T BE MEAN TO STEVE LIPSKI, but instead a rather callous assesment that the attack was a wasted effort due to poor timing. During the holidays, most people won't even notice. The ones that do notice, won't like it. Mind you, we are talking about the general public, not the inhabitants of 280 Grove, 583 Newark, et al. who visit this Board. It's hard for people that make a living off this stuff to imagine, but Jane and/or Joe Citizen don't want to hear about politcs except during election season. And this ignores the even more basic fact, if y'ain't payin' attention AND ya don't have a sharp set of peepers, y'ain't even gonna know the signs're there, NOHOW! : : I've got nothing against Harvey Smith. Actually, raised up as I am from the dust of Jersey City, I'm in awe. How can somebody do so well by doing nothing? I wish I knew the secret. : : After I was told the "beloved in Greenville" hocus pocus, I thought to myself, "Gee, this is the HCDO. That's like the Rolling Stones of politics. They must know something that I don't." So, just as I meander about town, I ask people what they think. The ones that have an opinion hold Smith's candidacy in contempt. "Well," I think, "perhaps they are afraid you're making some sort of report that the mayor's office is gonna get wind of and so only will give what they figger is the "correct" response." So, now I seek out seasoned observers of Hudson County politics, but those who don't have any direct involvement in this election. Here's how the opinions ran: "I got no idea what the HCDO might be thinking," "Glenn's got it," and "Smith is gonna lose and lose big." : : BTW, before you guys picked Smith, did you walk around and ask people what they thought? Or, stand in line at the supermarket and listen to what people are saying? Strangely enough, from what I've seen, NOBODY tries to find out what people are thinking (versus what they might tell a pollster). : : During the campaign, I wrote that the attacks on Smith for being inarticulate were misplaced, for in interviews he conducted himself well. Smith didn't sink Smith. What ruined it for Smith was HIS campaign. If Smith was portrayed as a good guy, champion of youth, family man, former college basketball star, etc., he'd have had a shot. Instead, we kept hearing only that Harvey was a TEAM PLAYER. Wake up guys! Maybe your bartender worries if you're happy, but the voters certainly don't! : You know you're getting pretty good at this AO. Your extenive quoting of anonymous sources was a nice touch. And no one speaks for the common Joe in the street live you do. A regular Everyman you are. Of course all you said was LHS was a helluva nice guy misused by others. His real friends are the ones who call him "uncle" and subject him to racist and degrading cartoons. And no one will ever see those silly signs that were illy designed, poorly placed and put up at the wrong time. Except that you did. And so did the little weasle who used DPW workers on city time to hunt them down. Remember, there is nothing wrong with being the butt boy for the UTN. Glazer is making a living at it. And when BS comes back you'll be returned to your deserved place of privlege. Maybe no one will notice how pathetic you've become. And then there was that strange interlude of the wink, wink SAVE US FROM GLENN CUNNINGHAM mailing that the HCDO produced on behalf (?) of Harvey Smith. I'll hand it to you guys, it's hard to achieve a new low in Hudson County, but with this ya' crossed the finish line with the pack in the back. Blatant racism has never before appeared in the mainstream of Hudson County politics. Even Hague, when attacking an ethnic opponent, would go to great lengths to work through an ethnic proxy to show that he was against the individual Anti, not the group. In the late 60s, when an African-American, Julian Robinson, ran against the machine, the Kenny bunch sent out flyers claiming that Robinson was involved with the Black Panthers -- BUT THEY SENT THEM OUT ANONYMOUSLY! Even at the height of J.V. Kenny's powers, his organization was afraid to take responsibility for this. When I took a look at this year's example of campaign "literature," appearing for all the world like an opening shot from '70 TV's ALL IN THE FAMILY with Archie Bunler and Edith staring out, I found it hard to believe. I thought, fer sure, this must be a parody; there's gotta be some sort of punch line that's flyin' over my head. But, no, close examination proved that, yes, this was an HCDO effort. So, I asked someone at the NAACP press conference, "Who were these sent out to?" I'm expecting to hear something like Retired Polish Longshoreman of Bayonne, but here's the answer: "EVERYBODY IN THE 31ST!" Now, don't even bother with "analysis," just use common sense and put your self in the shoes of an African-American voter at first half-inclined to give Harvey Smith the benefit of the doubt, what's their reaction going to be after having perused this vile missive? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let's Make A Deal posted Message 2443 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 24, 2003 at 08:47:09 Subject: RECALL SACCO signs for North Bergen : And no one will ever see those silly signs that were illy designed, poorly placed and put up at the wrong time. Except that you did. And so did the little weasle who used DPW workers on city time to hunt them down. How about you get to put RECALL LIPSKI signs in Jersey City and then a like number of RECALL SACCO signs will be for North Bergen? Maybe, someone can just run against Sacco without vengeance from the courts? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uber This posted Message 2444 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 24, 2003 at 09:04:55 Subject: A New Low Indeed : : : : : : : Some person or persons unknown (to me anyhow) have installed a number of professionally made (red vinyl letters on white plastic board, around 24" X 18") signs that read RECALL STEVE LIPSKI. The word RECALL is big and bold and can be seen from blocks away. The artiste skimped on the STEVE LIPSKI message; you've basically got to be right at the pole in order to read it. I'd guess that someone driving is going to miss it (unless they are stopped just at the corner for a red light). There are 3 or 4 at Five Corners and another 3 or 4 at Summit and State Hwy (that I know of). : : : : : : : What's the point? Is this some sort of quid pro quo for the threats to recall some other members of the council? Does anybody know and care to relate the particulars? : : : : : : : Me, myself -- I'm a 33rd degree practitioner of the negative message AND a great lover of signs. BUT, considering that we are in the Holiday weeks, it seems both a tad unnecessarily nasty AND something of a waste of time/energy (considering that the general public is thinking of anything but politics now). : : : : : : You try to sound impartial but you are nothing but a Cunningham apologist. This is nasty but the racist cartoon about LHS stays on your site without comment. This site is the hi-tec UTN. Hi- tec but low brow. : : : : : Wunnerful! Wunnerful! : : : : : Yer, jess' doin' GREAT! Keep up the good work! : : : : : If you don't get what you want, THREATEN! (Don't for a second think that not everybody in Hudson County's got a cousin pickin' up a paycheck from the DPW in North Bergen.) If that don't work, pout and spout saccharin laced whine about how "YOU'RE NOT NICE!" Like nice means anything in this landscape of mushroom clouds, Last Suppers, and Marilyn Monroes.... And the calls for racial solidarity against the onslaught of the untermenschen are sooo nostalgic! : : : : : Strut, preen, prance, hoot and holler every 6 months or so (like ya' got a date with Monica Lewinksy) that a BIG NAME is gonna pull yer collective derriere out from amongst the glowing coals. Start with "fighting fire with fire" by enlisting someone "beloved in Greenville." That one really confused me when I heard it -- for the life of me, I had no idea who they were talking about. When I was informed that the individual in question was "Why, our canidate for Senate in the 31st, Harvey Smith, of course." I was wondering if it was like an inside joke or something. Basically, over the last ten years, the only people I ever heard extolling the virtues of Harvey Smith were the owner of an Italian deli (who lived out-of-town) and (I'm not making this up) the former head of the Hoboken Motorcycle Club. Next, as it becomes obvious that the only thing Smith is any good for is increasing the circulation of the Urban Times News, grab that notorious miserable failure and bottom scraper in public opinion polls, James McGreevey. (And, go figger, they even hadda twist HIS arm to get him to set foot in Hudson County. I really loved Doria havin' to calm down the Guv and reassure him that "You're in BAYONNE!" ... like the thought of being in Jersey City had the Guv's knees knockin') Come up with some sorta house survey showing how, though ranking just above Osama Bin Laden in popularity in every other nook and cranny, HUDSON LOVES McGREEVEY! (If that was true, what would that have said about the residents of Hudson County? ... the lobotomites answering the questions, anyhow.) Ignore the fact that, in the best tradition of the police state, for generations people in Hudson County have been trained to say whatever they think the Dem establishment wants to hear. (And don't pull outta the attic how McGreevey won big here in 2001 -- if it wasn't for the back stabbin' Don D orchestratin' the light opera of the missing 54 million, that never woulda happened. Get 'em off to the side, private-like, and the old timers will be happy to tell you how McGreevey makes them wanna throw up (he just reeks of the little snitch-crum in every grammar school class across the state), but, being that "SCHUNDLER RAN OFF WITH 54 MILLION" they held their nose and voted for James E.) And might one ask, who's next in what's startin' to look like what boxing legend Muhammad Ali called the Bum of the Month Club? : : : : : And afterwards, hold a press conference. Don't apologize to the voters! Don't announce how you're cleanin' house by shakin' out all the campaign sleazes who insulted everyone in Jersey City (and the intelligence of every voter in Hudson County). Nah, nah... throw a temper tantrum an' blame the Internet and the Urban Times News! : : : : Calm down old fella. No one threatened you that I saw. And that 54 million dollar lie is being perpetrated by your new hero GC. He can't get 2 sentences out without mentioning it. And because you personally don't like LHS you can justify having his character assasinated on your site.But poor Benedict Lipski gets a pole sign about him tacked up and it is too nasty for your sensibilities. Look in the mirror , you're a first class wacko and world class phoney. You worked for BS right. But you're a professional not a hack like the rest of us, right.Hey Anthony, he lost, get over it. You are of the same ilk as the flea bag Glazer except he spells better. : : : And, whenever you can grab a reporter by the sleeve, DON'T GIVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER TO NOTHIN'! Spin and rattle off all sorts of Howard Cosellesque "analysis" and prognostication. The latest and greatest example: the reelection chances of Lou Manzo. The guy's not even sworn in, and still there's every variety of yimmer and yammer, on and on, about how "without Glenn leading the ticket, we can knock Lou off 2 years from now." (Like the general public cares if political insiders are miffed. Whatever you do, don't use half a brain and (at least publicly) wish him luck and state how you earnestly hope that the constituents are well served.) I gotta laugh, the cookie-cutter press actually takes the hoopla seriously. Neither Lou Manzo nor Tony Chiappone probably knows yet where they keep the paper clips at the Statehouse, but every time someone shows up with a microphone, this 2 years from now parrot squawks like it's some profound question on a pressing issue. : : : In Hudson County politics, 2 years is like 200 years. What's Lou Manzo going to be running for at that fork in the road? : : : And, by the way, as a reading of the original text will elicit, the point was not halo-held-up-by-a-wire DON'T BE MEAN TO STEVE LIPSKI, but instead a rather callous assesment that the attack was a wasted effort due to poor timing. During the holidays, most people won't even notice. The ones that do notice, won't like it. Mind you, we are talking about the general public, not the inhabitants of 280 Grove, 583 Newark, et al. who visit this Board. It's hard for people that make a living off this stuff to imagine, but Jane and/or Joe Citizen don't want to hear about politcs except during election season. And this ignores the even more basic fact, if y'ain't payin' attention AND ya don't have a sharp set of peepers, y'ain't even gonna know the signs're there, NOHOW! : : : I've got nothing against Harvey Smith. Actually, raised up as I am from the dust of Jersey City, I'm in awe. How can somebody do so well by doing nothing? I wish I knew the secret. : : : After I was told the "beloved in Greenville" hocus pocus, I thought to myself, "Gee, this is the HCDO. That's like the Rolling Stones of politics. They must know something that I don't." So, just as I meander about town, I ask people what they think. The ones that have an opinion express contempt for Smith's candidacy. "Well," I think, "perhaps they are afraid you're making some sort of report that the mayor's office is gonna get wind of and so only will give what they figger is the "correct" response." So, now I seek out seasoned observers of Hudson County politics, but those who don't have any direct involvement in this election. Here's how the opinions ran: "I got no idea what the HCDO might be thinking," "Glenn's got it," and "Smith is gonna lose and lose big." : : : BTW, before you guys picked Smith, did you walk around and ask people what they thought? Or, stand in line at the supermarket and listen to what people are saying? Strangely enough, from what I've seen, NOBODY tries to find out what people are thinking (versus what they might tell a pollster). : : : During the campaign, I wrote that the attacks on Smith for being inarticulate were misplaced, for in interviews he conducted himself well. Smith didn't sink Smith. What ruined it for Smith was HIS campaign. If Smith was portrayed as a good guy, champion of youth, family man, former college basketball star, etc., he'd have had a shot. Instead, we kept hearing only that Harvey was a TEAM PLAYER. Wake up guys! Maybe your bartender worries if you're happy, but the voters certainly don't! : : You know you're getting pretty good at this AO. Your extenive quoting of anonymous sources was a nice touch. And no one speaks for the common Joe in the street live you do. A regular Everyman you are. Of course all you said was LHS was a helluva nice guy misused by others. His real friends are the ones who call him "uncle" and subject him to racist and degrading cartoons. And no one will ever see those silly signs that were illy designed, poorly placed and put up at the wrong time. Except that you did. And so did the little weasle who used DPW workers on city time to hunt them down. Remember, there is nothing wrong with being the butt boy for the UTN. Glazer is making a living at it. And when BS comes back you'll be returned to your deserved place of privlege. Maybe no one will notice how pathetic you've become. : : And then there was that strange interlude of the wink, wink SAVE US FROM GLENN CUNNINGHAM mailing that the HCDO produced on behalf (?) of Harvey Smith. I'll hand it to you guys, it's hard to achieve a new low in Hudson County, but here ya' crossed the finish line with the pack in the back! Blatant racism has never before appeared in the mainstream of Hudson County politics. Even Frank Hague, when attacking an ethnic opponent, would go to great lengths to work through an ethnic proxy to show that Hague was against the individual Anti, not the group. In the late 60s, when an African-American, Julian Robinson, ran against the machine, the Kenny bunch sent out flyers claiming that Robinson was involved with the Black Panthers -- BUT THEY SENT THEM OUT ANONYMOUSLY! Even at the height of J.V. Kenny's powers, his organization was afraid to assume responsibility for this. When I took a look at this year's example of campaign "literature," appearing for all the world like an opening shot from '70s TV's ALL IN THE FAMILY with Archie Bunker and Edith staring out, I found it hard to believe. I thought, fer sure, this must be a parody; there's gotta be some sort of punch line that's flyin' over my head. But, no, close examination proved that, yes, this was an HCDO effort. So, I asked someone at the NAACP press conference, "Who were these sent out to?" I'm expecting to hear something like Retired Polish Longshoreman of Bayonne, but here's the answer: "EVERYBODY IN THE 31ST!" Now, don't even bother with "analysis," just use common sense and put your self in the shoes of an African-American voter at first half-inclined to give Harvey Smith the benefit of the doubt. What's their reaction going to be after having perused this vile missive? You've gone from being a Schundler lackey to a Cunningham groupie to a Bobby Jackson butt boy and now to a Kabili Tayari groupie. Way to go. "Cunningham fails families" is a "vile missive", but "Uncle Harvey" and white supremist cartoons of lynchings are peachy keen. But its your site and you've been a strange duck for some time now. I will not to choose to engage any longer. Hasta la vista, I'd rather read the Jersey. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Revenge posted Message 2445 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 26, 2003 at 09:17:01 Subject: Hudson County looks good compared to the Federal Government Imagine that the HCDO has stolen billions and it is discovered by an Attorney General looking to become Govenor. At the same time the Federal Authorities require that the theft be continued in order to float their own political agenda. This is exactly what is going on with the Mutual Fund scandal. Eliot Spitzer is hoping to become Govenor, the SEC needs Mutual Funds to continue as the scam they are so what is the solution well lets get suggestions from the Mutual Funds like Fidelity so they can fix it. Now most of the time I see Hudson County as corrupt but maybe the only reason the systemic looting of the publics trust is allowed is because the Federal Authorities as simply a larger scam. Honestly can Fidelity be trusted to provide a solution for a scam they participated in. Eliot Spitzer who's father is an investor with the Sterns Empire with a smaller empire of his own wants to be Govenor and requires contribtutions. So Fidelity get to keep their ill gotten gains Spitzer gets to be govenor, and the SEC, Federal Reserve, and the Open Market Operations keep the false and fabricated balances floating for another day. Lets face it the books are cooked as well as the boiled owl they serve as morality. Given the current enviroment of the larger Federal structure Hudson County looks like a Girl Scout Rally. To all those wearing wires for the Federal Authorities keep in mind the level of corruption that they are exhibiting in the open air and think only 10% shows on this iceberg the 90%. So this year the Federal Government has proven that their level of corruption exceeds that of Hudson County ***************** End Of Article ****************** Peter posted Message 2446 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 27, 2003 at 00:07:55 Subject: NYRMB: The Alternative Does NJ radio do a good job covering the politics of the day? Visit "The Alternative" and discuss NJ politics, talk radio,and the news that concerns you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2447 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 27, 2003 at 04:46:25 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2448 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 27, 2003 at 22:24:49 Subject: Re: Now Glenn can screw up twice as much : : Glenn will have to find another side kick to blaim his screw ups on the man is an idiot Ayala is just an excuse. : Get rid of Glenn .. he is a sorry loser that keeps screwing up .. But first let's get Ayala the venal monkey out of here .. he totally keeps screwing up ... We need some fresh new blood .. : Guess as I read this campaign is going down the "political pipes of Jersey" .. I agree .. Ayala needs to go ..When will Ayala be flushed down the political pipes of Jersey City? Get this venous bizarre monkey out of here. Sign him up for the circus that is if they will take him and Cunningham for a side show. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ayalathemonkey posted Message 2449 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 27, 2003 at 22:28:07 Subject: Re: Ayala is just dumb : Ayala is a moran and a pathetic loser : Ayala is just plain Dumb. And Cunningham is an idiot to listen to him. Both will be nothing more than a bad memory in a couple years. Either Bret will return to clean up the mess (part he left behind...part created by the current crew of numb nuts) or the north will work with DeGise to pick a new mayor. Either way...The Cunningham Crew is toast in two years. : : Ayala is no sane normal man .. This idiot and loser is a pathetic moran that needs to be removed from the administration and the face of this earth . He belongs 6 feet under with all the pathetic worms demons and devils .. He cannot perform any job nor can he perform in any other capacity either ... I vote to all band together and push real hard to get both Ayala and Cunningham out of this adminstration and flush their sorry butts down the political pipes of Jersey City .. Send them to Hell : * * * * * : : : : Ayala takes all the heat for the stupid things Glenn does. How many times can the employee be blaimed for the stupidity of the boss? Well it seems that Glenn never does anything wrong but his second in command does everything wrong how can that be? Glenn hired the dude so isn't really Glenns problem. What kind of leader keeps going to the same source of problem after problem? The answer is Glenn is no leader at all please remove him from office as soon as possible. Since a factual statement like this can be considered racist like any critical approach to the failures of Glenn let me tell you as a black lesbian handicapped person I have no racial hatred for Glenn only sympathy for his inability to perform his job. : : : : First, Ayala is not enough of a man to take the heat for his own stupid acts. He is a low-life worm who has no talent and no business playing in the big leagues. He has no talent, no fresh ideas, no common sense, no ability to deal with people, no credibility, not one characteristic necessary to rise to the level he has aspired to other than greed and ego. : : : Second, just because Glenn is an idiot, does not mean Ayala should be given credit for anything other than getting out of bed in the morning. Ayala is an overpaid do-nothing j-rk and that alone allows others to put the burden on him to prove his worth. To date, he has proven nothing to the people of Jersey City other than his own over-blown view of himself. : : : Glenn is at fault for foisting this idiot Ayala on us and for giving him greater responsibility than he can handle. Ayala should have nothing more than a shovel in his hand since that is the level of discourse he can understand. He has dug a hole for this administration, and its time he digs one for himself so that we don't have to smell the foul odor of his rotten ego anymore. ***************** End Of Article ****************** go lip go ski posted Message 2450 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 28, 2003 at 14:42:01 Subject: Re: RECALL STEVE LIPSKI Signs steve lipski betrayed his HCDO Buddies and he can't be trusted, he will do the same in Cunningham administration. ***************** End Of Article ****************** menendez for Castro not Hillary posted Message 2451 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 28, 2003 at 14:54:29 Subject: Re: Menendez Anti-Dean Camp : Menendez is ant-America, anti-family values, a pro-Castro and pro-capolism in his pocket, 2004 he will collect his unemployment ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2452 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 29, 2003 at 16:39:51 Subject: Show topics. Guest tonite is Gerry Clark she's a reporter for the UTN she's going to talk about her run in with our County Clerk Javier Inclan, Other topics Cunningham has no City Budget and none in the offering any time soon, JC Street sign cover up, Hoboken on ice, Bayonnes next big thing, all this and more tonite 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2453 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 30, 2003 at 07:00:35 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2454 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 30, 2003 at 08:19:17 Subject: Native Americans of Jersey City Seeing how'z the reprehensible discrimination of Black Cuban Women of Hudson County through the devious and devilish mechanism of racial profiling (not to mention the nasty postal workers who held back the court notices) has resulted in the tarnished driving record of Zulima Farber and the subsequent denial of a judgeship is being counted as one of the year's top stories, I want to bring to the attention of our crusading Congressman, that tireless proponent of the sacred rights of each and everyone, Bob Menendez, another downtrodden minority that's currently ignored: Native Americans of Jersey City. And after the lost Indian Tribes of Jersey City are given their proper role in society, Congressman Menendez needs to shift his beneficent gaze upon the 181 "Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander" listed in the 2000 census as our forgotten neighbors. Federal fund need to be immediately made available for dancing the hula and surfing in Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 2455 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 30, 2003 at 09:25:46 Subject: Re: Native Americans of Jersey City Anthony, Do you have a "thing " for Menendez? We are starting to think you like him.. I bet your one of those closet-case fags that use the forum to attack men who are straight. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2456 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 30, 2003 at 09:48:34 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2457 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 30, 2003 at 10:27:41 Subject: Re: Native Americans of Jersey City Anthony, you are a freak! ***************** End Of Article ****************** RP posted Message 2458 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 30, 2003 at 11:40:04 Subject: Re: Native Americans of Jersey City You need to listen to your shrink Anthony! Your in need of Pro-zac asap! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Woolly Bully posted Message 2459 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 30, 2003 at 13:02:42 Subject: Whatever Happened To Jailhouse Rock? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2460 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 30, 2003 at 13:54:51 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking of December 29, 2003 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Focus Factor posted Message 2461 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 30, 2003 at 15:11:50 Subject: Political New Year's Thank you list As the New Year is upon us, we should be thankful for the things we have received during the past 12 months. Thanks for: 1 - The fumbling bumbling political novices of North Hudson that have allowed SideShow Bill and his boss to become the political leaders in a county that still hasn't recovered from the plague of political intrigue and scandal heaped upon us for nearly a decade. 2 - The one or two adept reporters in the local press that have maintained their independence sufficient to report on all aspects of events, not just the angle preferred by the editorial boards. 3 - The entertaining idiocy provided by Jersey City's "SideShow Bill" Ayala. His idiotic antics and immaturity has added spice to the tavern banter as few have in the past. Thanks Bill for the fodder needed to keep the snickering going about this "gang that can't shoot strait" administration. From Bayonne to North Bergen...we owe you a debt of gratitude for providing us something to laugh about. 4 - Governor McGrevey for never faililng to disappoint the constituents when it comes to giving Hudson and JC its fair share of tax dollars and patronage. Gee Jim.... never been a Gov with a "D" that hasn't carried a plurality in JC. Better mend fences with GDC or you may be toast soon. 5 - Bobby Janiszewski for the never-ending headlines of indictments. What a wonderful way to begin the morning... coffee....the JJ....and news of another prosecution leading to another special election to fill another vacancy created by another criminal....oops...I mean elected official. If you have a special thank you to add to the short list begun here, please feel free. Happy New Year everyone. Be careful, stay safe and of course stay honest. Afterall...Mr. Christe is watching...lol. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The wookie posted Message 2462 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 30, 2003 at 18:42:16 Subject: Political Invention of the year Well said...but to add to this list, we should have a "political invention" of the year. I propose a Bill Ayala-sized toilet...so we can flush him down the political pipes of Jersey city...that would be the greatest public service anyone could provide us. : : As the New Year is upon us, we should be thankful for the things we have received during the past 12 months. : Thanks for: : 1 - The fumbling bumbling political novices of North Hudson that have allowed SideShow Bill and his boss to become the political leaders in a county that still hasn't recovered from the plague of political intrigue and scandal heaped upon us for nearly a decade. : 2 - The one or two adept reporters in the local press that have maintained their independence sufficient to report on all aspects of events, not just the angle preferred by the editorial boards. : 3 - The entertaining idiocy provided by Jersey City's "SideShow Bill" Ayala. His idiotic antics and immaturity has added spice to the tavern banter as few have in the past. Thanks Bill for the fodder needed to keep the snickering going about this "gang that can't shoot strait" administration. From Bayonne to North Bergen...we owe you a debt of gratitude for providing us something to laugh about. : 4 - Governor McGrevey for never faililng to disappoint the constituents when it comes to giving Hudson and JC its fair share of tax dollars and patronage. Gee Jim.... never been a Gov with a "D" that hasn't carried a plurality in JC. Better mend fences with GDC or you may be toast soon. : 5 - Bobby Janiszewski for the never-ending headlines of indictments. What a wonderful way to begin the morning... coffee....the JJ....and news of another prosecution leading to another special election to fill another vacancy created by another criminal....oops...I mean elected official. : If you have a special thank you to add to the short list begun here, please feel free. Happy New Year everyone. Be careful, stay safe and of course stay honest. Afterall...Mr. Christe is watching...lol. : ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2463 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 31, 2003 at 18:27:18 Subject: Happy New Year! I wish to take this opportunity to wish everyone on this forum a happy, healthy 2004. 2003 was a bumpy road, city, county, state, nationally & globally. It can only get better as we try to come to grips with the stength & frailties that make us all human. So as one year closes & another opens, let us be thankful for our brave men & women overseas. They are there because of their abiding belief that the Maker did endow men with certain inalienable rights, among them life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness. Let us be thankful for the men & women of the police & fire depts. We hold them to a higher standard because they answered a higher calling - that of protecting us. We all too often are very critical when they sometimes fail, we forget they, too, are just like us. Let us be thankful & optimistic for the little gains we have made. For if we fall into despair & lose hope, we will lose everything. Do a little "hoo-doo" dance & banish the negativity around you. A hug & kiss for everyone. May we all be here in 2004 to laugh, cry & drive each other absolutely nuts with truth, lies & innuendo. Happy New Year!!!!!! :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2464 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 01, 2004 at 05:18:59 Subject: You've come to the right place. . . This is where it's at! ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2465 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 01, 2004 at 21:47:14 Subject: Re: Happy New Year! : I wish to take this opportunity to wish everyone on this forum a happy, healthy 2004. : 2003 was a bumpy road, city, county, state, nationally & globally. It can only get better as we try to come to grips with the stength & frailties that make us all human. : So as one year closes & another opens, let us be thankful for our brave men & women overseas. They are there because of their abiding belief that the Maker did endow men with certain inalienable rights, among them life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness. : Let us be thankful for the men & women of the police & fire depts. We hold them to a higher standard because they answered a higher calling - that of protecting us. We all too often are very critical when they sometimes fail, we forget they, too, are just like us. : Let us be thankful & optimistic for the little gains we have made. For if we fall into despair & lose hope, we will lose everything. Do a little "hoo-doo" dance & banish the negativity around you. : A hug & kiss for everyone. : May we all be here in 2004 to laugh, cry & drive each other absolutely nuts with truth, lies & innuendo. : Happy New Year!!!!!! : :) I wish everyone a happy and joyous new year !!! I'd say the best way to ring in the new year is to remove Bill Ayala from the administration of jersey city politics ..He is such a weasel and a monkey !!! He is just pitiful... Please help flush his miserable sorry butt down the political pipes of jersey city!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2466 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 02, 2004 at 08:15:43 Subject: A better Jersey City Less Corruption and Good Government would be a good start for 2004.No Bond Scam that would make the future taxpayers of jersey City pay a Arm and a leg to make the current gang in city hall look good for the short term.Do the right thing Cunningham, stand up to your responsibility as Mayor of this once great city..By the way, How is your Crime plan Coming along? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vper posted Message 2467 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 02, 2004 at 08:29:11 Subject: Stamp Out Gaynors in 2004 Gaynors is losers. Lets lose these bacteria now. Where do germs like this come from? ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2468 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 03, 2004 at 00:16:32 Subject: Short term Tom. You should know all about doing things for short term benefit. Your boy Bret tried every one shot revenue gimmick in the book during his tenure. His only problem ? He ran out of City assets to sell. So he tried employee buyouts and bond schemes. Sound familiar ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who's In Charge Here? posted Message 2469 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 05:32:18 Subject: HCDO Mascot Point of view . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** ENNIMA posted Message 2470 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 07:53:46 Subject: Re: HCDO Mascot YOU LEFT OUT ONE THING.....ANTHONY IS THE DOO-DOO THAT COME OUT FROM UNDER THE TAIL! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens, The Urban Times News posted Message 2471 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 10:09:16 Subject: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" By -- ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2472 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 11:01:52 Subject: Auditor's 2003 achievement awards From The Auditor, the Star Ledger Sunday, December 28, 2003 . . . Wildest Card Glenn Cunningham , the mayor of Jersey City and soon to become a state senator, walks away with this one. He won a decisive victory in this year's Senate primary against the Hudson County Democratic machine, led by U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez and Sen. Bernard Kenny. It was by far the bitterest fight of the year, and feelings remain raw on both sides. "They compared me to a pig, and accused me of lying," Cunningham says. "My wife cried when she saw their mailings. She still won't go to the mailbox." But it was a two-way fight. A local newspaper allied with Cunningham, the Urban Times News, struck many low blows against his enemies -- accusing them not just of fraud and extortion, but of drinking too much and cheating on their wives. One column dredged up the suicide of a prominent Democrat's father two decades ago. "I do not write for them, and I don't tell them what to print," Cunningham says. But the paper's publisher, Bobby Jackson, is a close ally who served as one of three trustees on the mayor's inaugural committee, and he has raised funds for the mayor. Kenny and Menendez are beyond bitter. So how will Cunningham and Kenny get along in the Democratic caucus? How will the governor make any appointments from Hudson County when both these men have veto power through senatorial courtesy? Stay tuned. "I don't see peace in our time between these two camps," says one top Democrat. Cunningham, a former federal marshal, promises to try. "I don't want to sound corny, but I start off in the morning praying for my enemies. Don't get me wrong, I don't want them to win the lottery. But we're in office to help people. I haven't forgotten that, and these other people have." . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 2473 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 11:48:23 Subject: Re: HCDO Mascot What is missing is the crap that comes out from under the tail. That would be the $$hit named Anthony! ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 2474 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 11:52:07 Subject: Re: Auditor's 2003 achievement awards Very clever....leaving out a few lines......HERE is what Getnj didn't copy..... "But it was a two-way fight. A local newspaper allied with Cunningham, the Urban Times News, struck many low blows against his enemies -- accusing them not just of fraud and extortion, but of drinking too much and cheating on their wives. One column dredged up the suicide of a prominent Democrat's father two decades ago. "I do not write for them, and I don't tell them what to print," Cunningham says. But the paper's publisher, Bobby Jackson, is a close ally who served as one of three trustees on the mayor's inaugural committee, and he has raised funds for the mayor. Kenny and Menendez are beyond bitter. idn't print..... ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 2475 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 11:54:34 Subject: Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Hey Question? If it's not a ewal paper and no one reads it...why are they allowed to get Legal ads????? ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 2476 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 12:04:36 Subject: Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" : Hey Question? : If it's not a "real" paper and no one reads it...why are they allowed to get Legal ads????? ***************** End Of Article ****************** VPER1 posted Message 2477 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 12:24:09 Subject: Re: Auditor's 2003 achievement awards Nothing has been left out. The section of the Auditor referring to Cunningham and UTN has been reproduced IN FULL...This requires reading and may be why you think something has been left out. Information like this is frequently concealed in text and escapes people like your self who do not bother to READ... : Very clever....leaving out a few lines......HERE is what Getnj didn't copy..... : "But it was a two-way fight. A local newspaper allied with Cunningham, the Urban Times News, struck many low blows against his enemies -- accusing them not just of fraud and extortion, but of drinking too much and cheating on their wives. One column dredged up the suicide of a prominent Democrat's father two decades ago. : "I do not write for them, and I don't tell them what to print," Cunningham says. : But the paper's publisher, Bobby Jackson, is a close ally who served as one of three trustees on the mayor's inaugural committee, and he has raised funds for the mayor. Kenny and Menendez are beyond bitter. : idn't print..... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wper2 posted Message 2478 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 12:37:01 Subject: Re: Auditor's 2003 achievement awards Like they said....you were trying to be clever. Why the edit? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who Cares posted Message 2479 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 12:49:23 Subject: Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" : The problem with the UTN is that no one really cares anymore what you guys print. You had an impact and certainly got under a lot of HCDO skins but not any more. Its a little like when you first heard Andrew Dice Clay. The shock value was very forceful but by the third time you heard him it was just the same old same old. He can't get on Hollywood Squares now. I really follow this stuff and I only skim your articles for names. The UTN has become a bad inside joke and falls into that huge "who gives a crap" category. Your posting of what others are writing about you is akin to a serial killer collecting newspaper clips of his crimes. Welcome to a well deserved obscurity. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2480 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 15:04:28 Subject: Show topics for tonite. Our guest tonite is Mayor, HC Freeholder and Assemblyman elect Brian Stack, Stacks going to talk about the problems with the HCCC. Also tonite Hudson County payroll up approx 2.2 mil in one year this must be the tiny Tommy tax we didn' hear about! all this and more tonite 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio. ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2481 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 15:42:47 Subject: Re: HCDO Mascot >What is missing is the Crapp that comes out from under the tail. That would be labled Anthony O.! ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2482 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 17:56:56 Subject: Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Well said! ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 2483 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 19:00:55 Subject: Re: HCDO Mascot opps left something out...the poop that comes from under the tail......that we will name Anthony O. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where the Dick is! posted Message 2484 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 21:47:29 Subject: Menendez Name Belongs : Point of view? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Pat posted Message 2485 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 22:18:14 Subject: Re: Show topics for tonite. : Our guest tonite is Mayor, HC Freeholder and Assemblyman elect Brian Stack, Stacks going to talk about the problems with the HCCC. Also tonite Hudson County payroll up approx 2.2 mil in one year this must be the tiny Tommy tax we didn' hear about! all this and more tonite 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio. So I guess Pat didn't get that County job huh. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dick and Jane posted Message 2486 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 23:03:27 Subject: Re: Menendez Name Belongs At least he has one! ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2487 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 23:07:06 Subject: Re: HCDO Mascot What is missing is the name of the owner of this site. Anthony's name needs to be placed under the tail. Where all the crap comes from. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Straps ON posted Message 2488 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 05, 2004 at 23:19:33 Subject: The One Kay : At least he has one! ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's first lady to you! posted Message 2489 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 06, 2004 at 02:18:43 Subject: Re: The One Kay No the one Sandy does! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2490 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 06, 2004 at 04:37:58 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2491 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 06, 2004 at 08:03:38 Subject: A better Jersey City Soon My heart breaks everytime i ride through jersey city.I say to myself.How could this happen?I feel sorry for the hard working taxpayers.All they want is a Clean &safe City,with good schools.What do they get?Crime, Dirty streets,and poor schools.But the gang in City Hall are having a great time,.Parties ,free meals & free trips.All they have to do is take orders from the boss.All i can say is i cant wait for a new administration in a year and a half.Hang in there ,taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2492 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 06, 2004 at 08:04:58 Subject: A better Jersey City Soon My heart breaks everytime i ride through jersey city.I say to myself.How could this happen?I feel sorry for the hard working taxpayers.All they want is a Clean &safe City,with good schools.What do they get?Crime, Dirty streets,and poor schools.But the gang in City Hall are having a great time,.Parties ,free meals & free trips.All they have to do is take orders from the boss.All i can say is i cant wait for a new administration in a year and a half.Hang in there ,taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2493 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 06, 2004 at 09:57:58 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** dudley posted Message 2494 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 06, 2004 at 14:14:23 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired So aside from this guy Dorf's fan club, who is this Dorf character? Why was he fired? what is the real scoop? : : Hey BJ....who is Dorf ? I'm so out of touch. : You are out of touch .. Brian Dorf is a good man and this slander and petty politcal unprofessional garbage and mudslinging is disgusting ... and immature .. You all don't deserve to have Brian Dorf anywhere on your campaign .. You guys are the lowest of the low .. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2495 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 06, 2004 at 15:22:55 Subject: Stapinski's New Book Reviewed in the Baltimore Sun: Stapinski's 'Baby Plays Around': A memoir of truth, rock and roll -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Michael Pakenham Book Editor Originally published January 4, 2004 Helene Stapinski, who grew up in Jersey City among people and practices that either defy or define the core values of American life, has wanted two things, most of all, out of life: To write and to play drums. I have never heard her play. But this I know: She writes with the power and promise of a master, a developing virtuoso. I must confess, insist, that I am not a contemporary memoir fan. There is a movement, especially in writing schools and courses, to encourage self-referential exhibitionist onanism. This turns up both in memoirs and in "life-based fiction," which often amounts to penciling up a series of daily-journal entries and changing names and maybe a place or two. Most of it is thoroughly bad. There are few Prousts in history and I know of none today. So I am particularly joyful, redeemed, when I discover a memoir of artfulness, purpose and substance. Such a book is Baby Plays Around: A Love Affair with Music, by Helene Stapinski (Villard, 304 pages, $23.95). I am not surprised. Her previous book, Five-Finger Discount: A Crooked Family History (Random House, 288 pages, $23.95), published in early 2001, was a saga of growing up amid the graft and grime of industrial suburban New Jersey, where theft, violence and family solidarity were a way of life. I loved it, and wrote about it here with high praise and enthusiasm, one of my favorite books of that year. This memoir follows the first. It is about her life from her first job in a newspaper newsroom, straight out of graduate school, through marriage and several years of free-lance writing interwoven with intensely playing drums in a four-person rock band that ultimately did not make it. It ends with the birth of the first of her two sons. . . . See the Link for the complete review. ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 2496 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 06, 2004 at 16:34:06 Subject: Cunningham Hosts Seniors’ Summit Cunningham Hosts Seniors’ Summit “Their Issues Are State’s Priority” JERSEY CITY—Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham will host more than 200 of the city’s senior residents during a Seniors Issues Conference, 1 p.m. Thursday, January 9, 2004 in the Pavonia room in St. Peter’s College. The conference, where the 235 seniors who have confirmed their participation, is the culmination of a survey of senior residents regarding their priority issues, including Medicare, fraud and crime and housing. During the previous weeks seniors ranked issues they are confronted with, the results of which were gathered by the city office of Senior Affairs. During the Conference groups of seniors will separate into various groups for discussion of these key issues. Cunningham, 60, who is a strong-advocate for senior issues, called for the conference two months ago. “I’ve made senior issues a priority in my administration because for longer than anyone else they have contributed to the betterment of our communities and they deserve all the support elected officials can give. My efforts will not end locally,” said Cunningham, who will begin his legislative tenure at State Senator of the 31st District (Jersey City and Bayonne) on January 13, 2004./// ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2497 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 06, 2004 at 18:36:33 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of January 5, 2004 Brian Stack, Mayor of Union City and Assemblyman-elect, was the guest. To access the Online audio, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2498 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 06, 2004 at 18:51:40 Subject: Rene Abreu's Wife Admits Conspiring to Defraud the IRS 01-06-2004 -- Adan-Abreu, Lourdes -- Guilty Plea -- News Release Hudson County Businesswoman Admits Conspiring to Defraud the IRS NEWARK - Lourdes Adan-Abreu, owner of multiple Hudson County-based companies, pleaded guilty today to conspiracy to defraud the Internal Revenue Service, U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie announced. In a hearing before U.S. District Judge Joseph A. Greenaway, Jr., Adan-Abreu admitted that she signed and filed her 1996 personal income tax return knowing that the return contained false information. Specifically, she admitted that in the joint return she and her husband claimed a loss on the sale of certain property located in Old Tappan, and that the supposed loss was based, in part, on improvements allegedly made to the property. Adan-Abreu admitted before Judge Greenaway that the amount claimed for improvements was false. The tax-related charges against Adan-Abreu are contained in a Superseding Indictment returned in May 2002. That indictment also contains other charges against Adan-Abreu, including conspiracy to commit mail fraud and conspiracy to commit bank fraud. In accordance with her plea agreement, those other charges are to be dismissed at the time of sentencing if Adan-Abreu fully complies with all of the terms of her plea agreement. Judge Greenaway set sentencing for April 14 at 10:30 a.m. Adan-Abreu, 41, is the wife of Rene Abreu, a well-known Hudson County businessman. Rene Abreu is also named in the Superseding Indictment, charged with conspiring to engage in money laundering, to defraud the IRS, to commit mail fraud, to commit bank fraud, and to extort money for the protection of illegal gambling, among other crimes. The case against Rene Abreu is scheduled to go to trial on Feb. 24. During her plea hearing today, Adan-Abreu admitted that her husband was present during meetings with the Abreus' accountants, during which it was decided to inflate the value of the improvements on the Abreus' 1996 joint tax return as a way to lower the amount of income taxes owed. The conspiracy charge to which Adan-Abreu pleaded guilty carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison. The plea agreement provides that she will be ordered to pay restitution and may be ordered to pay a fine and the costs of the prosecution as well. Under U.S. Sentencing Guidelines, Judge Greenaway will determine Adan-Abreu's actual sentence based on a formula that takes into account the severity and characteristics of the offense and her criminal history, if any. Parole has been abolished in the federal system. Under the Sentencing Guidelines, defendants who are given custodial terms must serve nearly all that time. Christie credited Special Agents of the FBI, under the direction of Louie F. Allen, Special Agent in Charge, and special agents of the Internal Revenue Service, under the direction of Patricia J. Haynes, Special Agent in Charge, for their handling of the case. The Government is represented in the case by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Matthew Boxer, Thomas Eicher and Deborah Goldklang of the Special Prosecutions Division of the U.S. Attorney's Office. -end- Defense attorney: R. Scott Thompson, Esq., Roseland ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 2499 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 09:26:10 Subject: ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO: I find the actions of the HCRDO appalling. The Letter below was written by Anthony Grazioso, a lifelong resident of Hudson County. Mr. Grazioso points out the simple fact of life, one that we have been saying all along: This time it is different. They do not want peace. They want nothing less than the elimination of Glenn D. Cunningham, Jersey City’s first African American Mayor, and who is about to be sworn in as the Senator from the 31st Legislative District. Cunningham represents a threat to the established order and a disruption of the political way of life here in Hudson County for generations. A system of patronage, graft, and corruption. It is fitting that Cunningham is a former US Marshall. There would be peace if Cunningham were also on the take, but the man just is not built that way. So there is no peace, nor will there be. His refusal to “go along to get along,” is what started the political war in the first place. This time we are playing for ALL the marbles. People have said that Cunningham must make an overture to the other side for there to be peace. It would make no difference what Cunningham did if he does not capitulate and “go along to get along,” with the Hudson County Democratic Organization, and their systemic corruption that is their power base. Cunningham would have to be just another crook, like his opponents, for there to be peace. Then he would no longer be Cunningham, but just another hack in a long, unbroken line of Hudson County crooks, like the current leadership of HCDO. Letters to the Editor It's disgusting, degrading and un-American. Wednesday, January 07, 203 Letters to the Editor The Jersey Journal And the breach goes on! Rather than try to bridge the breach and bring peace and harmony to the severely split Democratic Party in Hudson County, leaders of the Hudson County Regular Democratic Organization continue to exacerbate the serious situation that is doing more harm to the residents of the county than these HCRDO leaders may realize. There were rifts and much in-fighting in the Democratic Party here in Jersey City and Hudson County in years past. But after all was said and done, the warring factions kissed and made up, as the old saying goes, and political life peacefully went on. And the Democrats prospered, as did the citizenry. Can't the same be accomplished now? This can happen again if the brain trusts of the HCRDO come to the realization that Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham is here to stay. In the June primary election, Mayor Cunningham overwhelmingly defeated his opponent for the right to run in the November general election, capturing a landslide victory from the voters in the 31st Legislative District. Mayor Cunningham and his two running mates for the Assembly, former Hudson County Freeholder Louis Manzo and Bayonne City Councilman Anthony Chiappone were the victors in the Nov. 4 election. They will play a commanding role in the affairs of state government when the three are sworn into office on Tuesday. Mayor Cunningham's political power is stronger today than when he was elected mayor in June 2001. And it is growing stronger with each passing day. By their selfish and foolish practices, such as continuing the court suit to overturn the legally certified results of the primary election, the HCRDO is, in essence, disenfranchising a whole bloc of voters who supported Mayor Cunningham. This is unconscionable, disgusting, degrading and un-American. When the HCRDO had a splendid opportunity to break the impasse and bring the two factions together, the leadership once again did a disheartening thing. They added salt to the wounds when they decided to send the person whom Mayor Cunningham soundly defeated in the June primary to Trenton as the interim (temporary) state senator to represent the 31st Legislative District. Did you ever witness such preposterousness; sending the loser rather than the winner to be our represented voice in the state Senate? The action of the HCRDO in this matter created more roadblocks to unity. As a lifetime resident of Jersey City, as well as a Democrat and a very proud community activist, I find the actions of the HCRDO appalling. There certainly are cooler heads that can discuss this issue more rationally and then try to persuade the recalcitrant people within their organization that there is a better way. Peace and Harmony. For a more powerful and influential Democratic Party in Hudson County and the state. One in which all the residents of our great county can take pride. It is time to face reality. The actions of the HCRDO only serve to make the citizenry wary and weary of what its leadership is doing. Let us hope and pray that before the members of the Senate and Assembly are sworn into office that wiser heads will prevail in the HCRDO and a really true olive branch will be extended to Mayor and State Sen.-elect Glenn D. Cunningham. It is time to stop passing the buck and pass the peace pipe! The ball is in the HCRDO's court. Not the state Court of Appeals! Let's bridge the breach. ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Barf bag pleases posted Message 2500 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 10:19:36 Subject: Re: ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO: I find the actions of the HCRDO appalling. : The Letter below was written by Anthony Grazioso, a lifelong resident of Hudson County. Mr. Grazioso points out the simple fact of life, one that we have been saying all along: This time it is different. : They do not want peace. They want nothing less than the elimination of Glenn D. Cunningham, Jersey City’s first African American Mayor, and who is about to be sworn in as the Senator from the 31st Legislative District. Cunningham represents a threat to the established order and a disruption of the political way of life here in Hudson County for generations. A system of patronage, graft, and corruption. It is fitting that Cunningham is a former US Marshall. : There would be peace if Cunningham were also on the take, but the man just is not built that way. So there is no peace, nor will there be. His refusal to “go along to get along,” is what started the political war in the first place. This time we are playing for ALL the marbles. People have said that Cunningham must make an overture to the other side for there to be peace. It would make no difference what Cunningham did if he does not capitulate and “go along to get along,” with the Hudson County Democratic Organization, and their systemic corruption that is their power base. : Cunningham would have to be just another crook, like his opponents, for there to be peace. Then he would no longer be Cunningham, but just another hack in a long, unbroken line of Hudson County crooks, like the current leadership of HCDO. : Letters to the Editor : It's disgusting, degrading and un-American. : Wednesday, January 07, 203 : Letters to the Editor : The Jersey Journal : And the breach goes on! Rather than try to bridge the breach and bring peace and harmony to the severely split Democratic Party in Hudson County, leaders of the Hudson County Regular Democratic Organization continue to exacerbate the serious situation that is doing more harm to the residents of the county than these HCRDO leaders may realize. : There were rifts and much in-fighting in the Democratic Party here in Jersey City and Hudson County in years past. But after all was said and done, the warring factions kissed and made up, as the old saying goes, and political life peacefully went on. And the Democrats prospered, as did the citizenry. Can't the same be accomplished now? : : : This can happen again if the brain trusts of the HCRDO come to the realization that Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham is here to stay. In the June primary election, Mayor Cunningham overwhelmingly defeated his opponent for the right to run in the November general election, capturing a landslide victory from the voters in the 31st Legislative District. Mayor Cunningham and his two running mates for the Assembly, former Hudson County Freeholder Louis Manzo and Bayonne City Councilman Anthony Chiappone were the victors in the Nov. 4 election. They will play a commanding role in the affairs of state government when the three are sworn into office on Tuesday. Mayor Cunningham's political power is stronger today than when he was elected mayor in June 2001. And it is growing stronger with each passing day. By their selfish and foolish practices, such as continuing the court suit to overturn the legally certified results of the primary election, the HCRDO is, in essence, disenfranchising a whole bloc of voters who supported Mayor Cunningham. This is unconscionable, disgusting, degrading and un-American. : When the HCRDO had a splendid opportunity to break the impasse and bring the two factions together, the leadership once again did a disheartening thing. They added salt to the wounds when they decided to send the person whom Mayor Cunningham soundly defeated in the June primary to Trenton as the interim (temporary) state senator to represent the 31st Legislative District. Did you ever witness such preposterousness; sending the loser rather than the winner to be our represented voice in the state Senate? The action of the HCRDO in this matter created more roadblocks to unity. : As a lifetime resident of Jersey City, as well as a Democrat and a very proud community activist, I find the actions of the HCRDO appalling. There certainly are cooler heads that can discuss this issue more rationally and then try to persuade the recalcitrant people within their organization that there is a better way. Peace and Harmony. For a more powerful and influential Democratic Party in Hudson County and the state. One in which all the residents of our great county can take pride. : It is time to face reality. The actions of the HCRDO only serve to make the citizenry wary and weary of what its leadership is doing. Let us hope and pray that before the members of the Senate and Assembly are sworn into office that wiser heads will prevail in the HCRDO and a really true olive branch will be extended to Mayor and State Sen.-elect Glenn D. Cunningham. It is time to stop passing the buck and pass the peace pipe! : The ball is in the HCRDO's court. Not the state Court of Appeals! Let's bridge the breach. : ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO Jersey City So Anthony Grazioso, successor to the great Pat O'Melia at the Parking Authority, feels the pain of Glenn Cunningham. Poor Glenn everybody picks one one of the all time great guys in history. I mean this is the Mayor Man by jeepers. None of this could be his fault I mean the guy was a Marine and all that. So everyone else is wrong and Mayor Man is right. A few others are ok too. Like Tony, and the Ecclestons. And Bobby Jackson and Gene Drayton.Sometimes Steve Lipski.And of course Lady One. She rules. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2501 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 10:35:27 Subject: Jersey City Crime Rate I see that homicedes are up in Jersey City for 2003.I never did see Mayor Cunninghams Crime Plan that he said he had when he ran for Mayor in the first place.Why is he keeping it to himself?Maybe less Scams and more hands on work would do wonders for our once great City.Looking forward to the next Mayoral election in 2005. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2502 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 10:56:36 Subject: NJN Video: The Start of the Cunningham -- Menendez Feud In a NJN video from June 2003 primary day, Former Hudson County Executive Bernie Hartnett describes the beginning of the rift between Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham and Congressman Menendez. To view the Online Video, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WeezilDeal posted Message 2503 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 10:56:48 Subject: Better for who ? I'm guessing if your boy Bret gets in, you'll be the one taking the free trips and getting the free meals Tom. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gauguin posted Message 2504 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 11:04:45 Subject: POOR TONY ! It is truly sad to see the depths that Tony Grazioso has sunk to. A cynic may say that it's politics as usual. That Tony is getting on in years and needs a job, needs the money. That's the rationale. Tony can close his eyes and hold his nose ... make believe that Cunningham and his lackeys are honorable people. Ignore the vicious lies ot the UTN and call the HCDO the problem. He can do all these things for the few pieces of silver he's receiving. If Tony were a true Democrat and an honorable man he would reject Cunningham. At the very least, he could take his money and be quiet. Rather than spouting the lies and propaganda of his masters. ***************** End Of Article ****************** VPER1 posted Message 2505 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 11:18:48 Subject: Re: Jersey City Crime Rate Gaynors is Losers You see nothing and you are a fool and a loser. Cunningham is a cop's cop and has fought crime like nobody before. Homicides happen. Nothing wrong with you one of those would not cure. Gaynors is losers as we all know. You still are not getting the job Dirty Neck promised you, bozo. : I see that homicedes are up in Jersey City for 2003.I never did see Mayor Cunninghams Crime Plan that he said he had when he ran for Mayor in the first place.Why is he keeping it to himself?Maybe less Scams and more hands on work would do wonders for our once great City.Looking forward to the next Mayoral election in 2005. ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 2506 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 12:59:02 Subject: Re: ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO: I find the actions of the HCRDO appalling. Boy o' boy this is all the UTN could come up with this week? Time for a new job Stevie! ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 2507 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 13:03:48 Subject: Re: ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO: I find the actions of the HCRDO appalling. Anthony Grazioso...FYI the HCRDO is Cunningham's camp. Next time you send a letter to the editor have someone proof read it! LMAO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2508 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 14:00:59 Subject: Re: ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO: I find the actions of the HCRDO appalling. : Anthony Grazioso...FYI the HCRDO is Cunningham's camp. : Next time you send a letter to the editor have someone proof read it! : LMAO! Nah, Anthony Grazioso is basically correct. The Cunningham (Jersey City) group is know as the Reformed Democratic Party or Democrats for Hudson County. The opposition (Hudson County) group, often referred to as the REGULAR Democrats, is named the Hudson County Democratic organization. I'll grant you that I've always seen the initials HCDO used. The coinage of HCRDO is a trifle confusing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2509 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 14:23:23 Subject: Re: Menendez & Sires = CELLMATES : Typical disgraceful & racist remarks from the HCDO clan. : : The democratic party of hudson county don't need jersey city! Jersey City is run by a bunch of monkeys .. Hey look at Cunningham's side kick Bill Ayala ... he is a venamous monkey .. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nah, Anthony Grazioso is basically off the wall posted Message 2510 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 14:54:06 Subject: Re: ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO: I find the actions of the HCRDO appalling. Nope the Hudson County Reformed Democratic Org. aka HCRDO is listed with the state. Bobby Jackson, Glenn Cunnibgham, and Joe Cardwells name are listed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Snowflake to melt? posted Message 2511 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 07, 2004 at 15:43:19 Subject: Rene Abreu . . . was a fund-raiser for West New York Mayor Albio Sires, who is now speaker of the state Assembly. . . . The trial involving Adan-Abreu's husband is scheduled to begin Feb. 24. In May, he pleaded innocent to all counts of the indictment. Rene Abreu, of Fort Lee, whose operations include a mortgage company, was a fund-raiser for West New York Mayor Albio Sires, who is now speaker of the state Assembly. Among the charges Rene Abreu faces is that he took protection money paid by an illegal gambling operation to then-West New York Police Chief Alexander V. Oriente "on behalf of a high-level West New York public official" from 1995 to 1997. The official was not named in the indictment, but testimony given by Oriente in 1999 named state Assembly Speaker and West New York Mayor Albio Sires as the recipient of the payoffs. Sires has denied the charges. . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2512 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 08, 2004 at 09:05:18 Subject: HCDO and Hudson GOP Web Sites Hudson County Democratic Organization and the Hudson County Republican Committee have Web Site: http://www.hudsondems.org http://www.hudsongop.org Sad to relate, neither is of much use. The HCDO Web Site appears to be very new; at any rate, it's basically bereft of information. There is a contact Page with the physical adddress, a telephone number, and three e-mail addresses and a Links Page that'll take you to the State and National Party Web Sites. The real curiosity is the calendar Page that starts in April and ends in November -- with no entries. The Hudson County GOP-flavor Web Page has its own set of foibles. Seemingly every single individual connected with the Hudson County Republican Party -- to the Committee Person level -- is listed. What the point of this is, I've no idea. It's not like many of these guys and gals are the neurons of the local Republican Party. And, even if that was so, there's hardly even a hint of how to find most of them. With a copyright notice of 2002, the material is very dated. Douglas Forrester for U.S. Senate is treated as a current event. (Hey, who knows. Maybe Forrester will run for Senate again and IT WILL BE NEWS!) There are Links to the Kearny GOP, the State GOP, and an Online voter registration Web Site. - - - - Does anybody know of any other local politcal organization Web Sites? Post 'em here and I'll collect them all into a Hudson County Links Page. ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 2513 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 08, 2004 at 15:02:40 Subject: Photo Exhibit Documents the Anti-War Movement, Demonstrations against Police Brutality and life in Cuba "Documenting the Peace Move/meant" Photo Exhibit Documents the Anti-War Movement, Demonstrations against Police Brutality and life in Cuba JERSEY CITY - An exhibit with the works of Jersey City photographer Tracey Luszcz will open during a reception at 6 p.m. on Thursday, January 8, 2004 in the City Hall Rotunda, 280 Grove Street. The exhibit, which includes dozens of black and white photographs, tells the story of the American anti-war movement and other protests such as the killing of Earl Faison in police custody. The photos focus on the role of youth in the peace demonstrations. On 'display are also several pieces of life in contemporary Cuba. A second photo exhibit, "4 Seasons in the Bergen Arches" is currently on display on the second floor of City Hall. The photographs include the work of five local artists and tell the story of the double-track Bergen Tunnel that was part of the Erie Railroad, from the past to its present state. Andrzej Lech, whose work is displayed in the "4 Seasons" show received an award for his work at the Venice Biennial Art Show in Italy. For more information on the two exhibits or to interview one of the artists, please contact Greg Brickey in the Cultural Affairs Department at (201) 547-4333. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not Getting county Jobs posted Message 2514 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 08, 2004 at 16:58:56 Subject: Bernie Kenny Blackballed the Gaynors The Gaynors have been blackballed by Boss Mennedez and Chairman Bernie Kenny . Tom DePuppet is POWERLESS !!! The Gaynors are FOOLS ! : You see nothing and you are a fool and a loser. Cunningham is a cop's cop and has fought crime like nobody before. Homicides happen. Nothing wrong with you one of those would not cure. Gaynors is losers as we all know. You still are not getting the job Dirty Neck promised you, bozo. : : : I see that homicedes are up in Jersey City for 2003.I never did see Mayor Cunninghams Crime Plan that he said he had when he ran for Mayor in the first place.Why is he keeping it to himself?Maybe less Scams and more hands on work would do wonders for our once great City.Looking forward to the next Mayoral election in 2005. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2515 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 09, 2004 at 07:25:18 Subject: Re: HCDO Web Sites "The HCDO Web Site appears to be very new; at any rate, it's basically bereft of information." Sort of reminds one of the Jersey City Website. They are more alike than they care to admit. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2516 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 09, 2004 at 11:54:30 Subject: Jedsey Journal comes out on Jan@1st There will be a super article about a team mate of mine at St Peters College in the late 50s-Marty Walsh was from St Als.Its a must read.Marty was what Jersey city was all about in those days.Remember to read the Jedsey journal when it comes out.Thanks in Advance-Tom Gaynor.PS- Jed DiMetteo,Is a Jersey City gem who writes all the articles for this great paper about Jersey City Past. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2517 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 09, 2004 at 12:17:40 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Over the back fence posted Message 2518 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 09, 2004 at 16:26:35 Subject: Bridget Gaughan I hear that Bridget Gaughan just got lucky to the tune of $70,000 a year from the good and plenty County of Hudson. Is that so? What's she supposed to be doing to be worth so much to the tax paying public? The same person that told me this said that Bridget Gaughan tried to get onto the Jersey City Police like a few years ago but she only lasted three days in the academy. Did she just not hack it an walk off or was she told to go away? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Survivor posted Message 2519 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 09, 2004 at 16:42:21 Subject: Signs I moved here about fifteen years ago and so far have seen many lost causes wash up on shore, but these new signs all over the place surely top all. And why are most of them covered with garbage bags? are they not spelled right? In the neighborhood here there got to be maybe a dozen in every direction for the heights library like its the eight wonder of the world. Most everybody that goes there is a grammar school student or a senior and they all walk. Why all these driving directions? There's no art gallery there that people are going to travel for. Then there is all the signs for central avenue shopping. Does maybe the rest of the region have no 99 cent stores so they all want to be directed here? And who designed these things? In Jersey CIty we have some very good designers living right here, many who work for top NYC retailer. These signs have silly arcs and dovetails. I hope that this was a 4th grader competition! And the colors! Every design magazine and article related this season how wonderful it is that people have matured past red and green for christmas, able now to appreciate pastels, gold and ivory. And here is these signs red and green like for chinatown on canal. Plus, it is surely common sense, if not international convention, that red is to be only used for emergency facilities, like hospitals or firehouses, Here these signs many are red with green trim for just about any trivial thing, And of course the green with red trim is only worse yet for it is hard to read! Plus, the signs are not reflective which makes for very difficult viewing at night. ***************** End Of Article ****************** For whom the bell tolls posted Message 2520 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 09, 2004 at 18:56:11 Subject: Associate of politically connected businessman admits to currency scheme Associate of politically connected businessman admits to currency scheme The Associated Press 1/9/2004, 5:59 p.m. ET NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — Another associate of a politically connected West New York businessman has pleaded guilty, admitting that they schemed to structure currency transactions to avoid bank reporting rules. The guilty plea Friday from Edgardo Aguirre was the sixth in the case, and the latest to implicate Rene Abreu. Abreu's wife pleaded guilty Tuesday to a tax charge stemming from the sale of an investment property. Abreu faces trial next month on 45 counts, including bank fraud and tax charges. His lawyer, Gerald Krovatin, did not immediately return a call Friday. On Tuesday, he said Abreu "will fight this case all the way." Abreu, of Fort Lee, whose operations include a mortgage company, was indicted on bank fraud charges in May 2002 and has maintained his innocence. He was a fund-raiser for West New York Mayor Albio Sires, who is now speaker of the state Assembly. Aguirre, 51, pleaded guilty to a single conspiracy count in the May 2002 indictment against him, Abreu and 10 others. The count said he and Abreu had more than $2 million deposited in accounts at several banks in amounts of less than $10,000 to avoid filing cash transaction reports. Aguirre faces up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine when sentenced May 3 by U.S. District Judge Joseph A. Greenaway Jr. The actual penalties would be far less, in part because he pleaded guilty. One of the others to plead guilty in the case was Manuel "Manny" Mier of Hillside, who admitted in September 2002 that he funneled $2,000 a week from an illegal gambling operation in West New York from the former police chief to Abreu. The former chief, Alexander Oriente, pleaded guilty along with two dozen other individuals in a police corruption scandal involving gambling and prostitution rackets in West New York. He testified in 1999 that he gave $2,000 a week to Abreu, believing it ultimately ended up with Sires. Sires has denied taking illegal payments. ***************** End Of Article ****************** disgusted posted Message 2521 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 09, 2004 at 21:26:05 Subject: Re: Better for who ? : I'm guessing if your boy Bret gets in, you'll be the one taking the free trips and getting the free meals Tom. It will be a better jersey without Ayala that venomous monkey ***************** End Of Article ****************** Only A Matter of Time posted Message 2522 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 09, 2004 at 21:36:08 Subject: Good Bye Mr. Speaker ADIOS ALBIO !!!!!!! The Speaker who can hardly speak English. LMFAO : Associate of politically connected businessman admits to currency scheme : The Associated Press : 1/9/2004, 5:59 p.m. ET : NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — Another associate of a politically connected West New York businessman has pleaded guilty, admitting that they schemed to structure currency transactions to avoid bank reporting rules. : : : The guilty plea Friday from Edgardo Aguirre was the sixth in the case, and the latest to implicate Rene Abreu. : Abreu's wife pleaded guilty Tuesday to a tax charge stemming from the sale of an investment property. : Abreu faces trial next month on 45 counts, including bank fraud and tax charges. : His lawyer, Gerald Krovatin, did not immediately return a call Friday. On Tuesday, he said Abreu "will fight this case all the way." : Abreu, of Fort Lee, whose operations include a mortgage company, was indicted on bank fraud charges in May 2002 and has maintained his innocence. He was a fund-raiser for West New York Mayor Albio Sires, who is now speaker of the state Assembly. : Aguirre, 51, pleaded guilty to a single conspiracy count in the May 2002 indictment against him, Abreu and 10 others. The count said he and Abreu had more than $2 million deposited in accounts at several banks in amounts of less than $10,000 to avoid filing cash transaction reports. : Aguirre faces up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine when sentenced May 3 by U.S. District Judge Joseph A. Greenaway Jr. The actual penalties would be far less, in part because he pleaded guilty. : One of the others to plead guilty in the case was Manuel "Manny" Mier of Hillside, who admitted in September 2002 that he funneled $2,000 a week from an illegal gambling operation in West New York from the former police chief to Abreu. : The former chief, Alexander Oriente, pleaded guilty along with two dozen other individuals in a police corruption scandal involving gambling and prostitution rackets in West New York. He testified in 1999 that he gave $2,000 a week to Abreu, believing it ultimately ended up with Sires. : Sires has denied taking illegal payments. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Shock the Monkey posted Message 2523 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 10, 2004 at 00:28:12 Subject: Nepotism I wasn't sure if it was Bridget who got the job or the other daughter. If it was Bridget, Dad has really done her a solid. He tried to set her up in City government. But as they say, the girl had issues. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2524 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 10, 2004 at 07:59:57 Subject: De Ja Vu all over again. Did anyone happen to notice that on RadioPat's Monday nite show he did a little thing on the County budget, which has risen 2.2 million dollar since the present county administration has taken office. Later in the week, the JJ prints a half page tirade by Chief-of-Stuff, (the real)Council President, mortician to the elderly, the honorable (not) Bill Gorgon, in which he once again goes over the fiscal shortcomings of the present city administration. In fact,the letter looks like a slightly reworded retread of every letter Mr. Gorgon's spinmeisters send to the JJ everytime Mr. Gorgon gets a snootful. (Must be awful having to now spend all your time in JC, instead of Wall, instead of the couple of days a month you used to.) This is starting to look like a grown up version of that silly kid's thing - "I am rubber, You are glue. Whatever you say bounces off me, And sticks to you." Nyah, Nyah, Nyah. Good grief! How old are these people? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Copernicus posted Message 2525 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 10, 2004 at 08:32:04 Subject: Re: Where's the Beef? : Did anyone happen to notice that on RadioPat's Monday nite show he did a little thing on the County budget, which has risen 2.2 million dollar since the present county administration has taken office. : Later in the week, the JJ prints a half page tirade by Chief-of-Stuff, (the real)Council President, mortician to the elderly, the honorable (not) Bill Gorgon, in which he once again goes over the fiscal shortcomings of the present city administration. : In fact,the letter looks like a slightly reworded retread of every letter Mr. Gorgon's spinmeisters send to the JJ everytime Mr. Gorgon gets a snootful. (Must be awful having to now spend all your time in JC, instead of Wall, instead of the couple of days a month you used to.) : This is starting to look like a grown up version of that silly kid's thing - : "I am rubber, : You are glue. : Whatever you say : bounces off me, : And sticks to you." : Nyah, Nyah, Nyah. : Good grief! How old are these people? Lets look at the numbers. If the county budget is in the 350 million dollar range, which I believe to be correct, then a 2.2 million dollar increase in a year is under 1%. Thats pretty good in my book. Pat and BlindJustice, where's the beef? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Galileo posted Message 2526 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 10, 2004 at 09:13:25 Subject: Re: Where's the Beef? : : Did anyone happen to notice that on RadioPat's Monday nite show he did a little thing on the County budget, which has risen 2.2 million dollar since the present county administration has taken office. : : Lets look at the numbers. If the county budget is in the 350 million dollar range, which I believe to be correct, then a 2.2 million dollar increase in a year is under 1%. Thats pretty good in my book. Pat and BlindJustice, where's the beef? One might assume that under the rule of Bobby "Imelda Marcos" Janiszewski the County Government budget bloated like a beached whale in the sun. Since this is the most likely scenario, why is the County adding more leaches to the already bled dry tax base? DeGise was supposed to go in and clean things up and out. We should be seeing TAX DECREASES on the order of 30% OR MORE!!! Here's a prediction: MORE IS TO FOLLOW! Since the HOLE IN THE WALL GANG lost 3 seats in the legislature, to keep up to speed, THEY'LL BE TAPPING THE COUNTY EVEN MORE!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2527 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 10, 2004 at 09:46:27 Subject: De Ja Vu again & again Pat's point may have been monetary, mine wasn't. I ended my statement with the childish "Rubber-Glue" rhyme that children throw back & forth at each other. I can't wait to see what the return volley will be. My point is that no matter which side lobs the first volley, the other side feels absolutely compelled to return it. Their absolute childishness does not affect them but us. So while all sides engage in this game, we sink further into the hole. I dread the size of the ladder we'll need to climb out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2528 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 10, 2004 at 10:54:11 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2529 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 10, 2004 at 10:57:51 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2530 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 10, 2004 at 11:13:29 Subject: How much did the JJ screw up? Is Joan Arango Jose Arango's ex-wife? Jose isn't married to her now, anyhow. . . . Another person noticeably absent from Thursday's celebration was Joan Arango, who served as deputy county clerk for 10 years of the tenure of Hudson County Clerk Janet Haynes, who died in July. Javier Inclan, who was elected to the clerk's post after serving in that position on an interim basis, said he has tapped former Bayonne Councilwoman-at-large Mary Jane Desmond, who recently worked in the county's Department of Corrections, to serve as his deputy clerk. "She's done a great job for the county since she's been here," Inclan said. "She's a great manager with great administrative skills." Arango - wife of Hudson County Republican Party chairman Jose Arango - could not be reached for comment. . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jose Never Marrried Joan !! posted Message 2531 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 10, 2004 at 11:51:36 Subject: Another Jersey Journal LIE Joan Arango HAS NEVER BEEN MARRIED TO Jose Arrango. Another Jersey Journal LIE -- Probably designed to lump all dissents together -- now by marriage -- LMFAO Jose's First Wife - A lovely beautiful Woman named Stella. This was not a Jersey Journal Mistake -- It was done on purpose. Boss Menendez (his son works at the JJ) is trying to mininize the number of the Menendez Anti's -- NEWS TO BOSS BOBALOU - Because of You and Kay - The number of your Anti's grow every day - Ask Your Own DAUGHTER !!!!!! : Is Joan Arango Jose Arango's ex-wife? Jose isn't married to her now, anyhow. : . . . : Another person noticeably absent from Thursday's celebration was Joan Arango, who served as deputy county clerk for 10 years of the tenure of Hudson County Clerk Janet Haynes, who died in July. : Javier Inclan, who was elected to the clerk's post after serving in that position on an interim basis, said he has tapped former Bayonne Councilwoman-at-large Mary Jane Desmond, who recently worked in the county's Department of Corrections, to serve as his deputy clerk. : "She's done a great job for the county since she's been here," Inclan said. "She's a great manager with great administrative skills." : Arango - wife of Hudson County Republican Party chairman Jose Arango - could not be reached for comment. : . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom DePuppet posted Message 2532 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 10, 2004 at 19:52:15 Subject: Rape of Taxpayers This is absurd - Half the JC City Council collecting high paying county jobs - Even their misfit daughters !!! Now Harvey is on the County pad too. WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF HUDSON COUNTY ???????? I just hope Gaughan drinks himself to death ASAP !!!! : I hear that Bridget Gaughan just got lucky to the tune of $70,000 a year from the good and plenty County of Hudson. : Is that so? What's she supposed to be doing to be worth so much to the tax paying public? : The same person that told me this said that Bridget Gaughan tried to get onto the Jersey City Police like a few years ago but she only lasted three days in the academy. Did she just not hack it an walk off or was she told to go away? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Matchmaker posted Message 2533 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 10, 2004 at 22:00:34 Subject: Sleaze factor. Who would want to marry a sleaze like Jose Arango ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2534 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 10, 2004 at 22:13:14 Subject: Re: Check your spelling!!!! I 100% object to this vulgar disgusting inappropriate message written and posted on this board about Brian Dorf. First, I think it is pretty darn pathetic to bring up his personal life and the way he lives it. Brian has been independent for a long time and in no way lives off his daddy. He made his money the old fashioned way .. he earned it and is a very smart investor who does alot of research. As far as the corvette, that has always been his car of choice. He loves his vette and 4x4. I think the venomous monkey that is splattering these disgusting vulgar false lies and comparing him to a parasite is typical of juvenile political mudslinging. the man behind these cruel and vicious vulgar disgusting comments is no other than Ayala, that pathetic venomous monkey who has nothing better to do than spread disgusting thoughts and words about others. I think he should be permanently flushed down the political pipes of Jersey City and when Ayala is gone Jersey will be a much better place. Ayala you are a venomous parasite and monkey who is not even fit to join a circus. I object to the harsh tone used against "parasites" : : First, how hard can it be to use spell check! : : Second, comparing Parasites (who are a valuable part of the world's ecology) to Brian Dorf, is offensive to Parasites. We need to distinguish between a necessary organism in Nature's food chain from Brian Dorf for which there is no justification. : : He got fired, drives around in a corvette, and lives off of his daddy. : : And think of this. Of all the real winners down in City Hall, Dorf is the only one to manange to get himself fired. : : And yes, the Cunningham Team has been on a big winning streak since he was canned. : : I don't think Dorf managed to get himself fired .. I think someone set him up .. He is too much of a great PR man. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Myrtle, where's the aspirin? posted Message 2535 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 11, 2004 at 03:47:57 Subject: Your COUNTY Tax Dollars At Work(?) How many more are there? Bridget Gaughan's getting $70,000. Harvey Smith, too now? Councilman Gaughan has a job as the Chief of Staff to the County Executive. ($100,000) Several members of the Council are also on the County payroll with high paying jobs and they answer to Councilman Gaughan. Councilman Junior Maldonado has a $80,000 a year job at the Hudson County Improvement Authority. Councilman Mariano Vega has a $90,000 a year job as the director of Public Resources. Councilman Peter Brennan has a $65,000 a year job as a maintenance man. Councilwoman Mary Donnelly's son and daughter-in-law both work for the County. They all answer to the Chief of Staff, Bill Gaughan who has the power to hire and fire them. Bill Gaughan controls these councilmen by controlling their jobs. He is the boss of these county-employed Jersey City Council-members at work and in politics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2536 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 11, 2004 at 08:23:57 Subject: Re: Your COUNTY Tax Dollars At Work(?) So where do I pick-up an application? I'll even show up........occasionally. ***************** End Of Article ****************** VPER1 posted Message 2537 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 11, 2004 at 09:54:22 Subject: Re: Your COUNTY Tax Dollars At Work(?) Corrections : How many more are there? : Bridget Gaughan's getting $70,000. : Harvey Smith, too now? THAT IS CORRECT. UNDER SHERIFF. HE IS QUALIFIED BY HIS MANY YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE. That will be $81,000. He took a cut from $90,000 at Dickinson to do this because the kids in the school were calling him "Uncle Harvey" : Councilman Gaughan has a job as the Chief of Staff to the County Executive. ($100,000) NO, THAT'S ONLY $95,000, BUT HE SAYS HE EARNS EVERY PENNY. : Several members of the Council are also on the County payroll with high paying jobs and they answer to Councilman Gaughan. : Councilman Junior Maldonado has a $80,000 a year job at the Hudson County Improvement Authority. MAKE THAT $88,000, PLEASE. : Councilman Mariano Vega has a $90,000 a year job as the director of Public Resources. MAKE THAT $93,000, PLEASE : Councilman Peter Brennan has a $65,000 a year job as a maintenance man. CHECK : Councilwoman Mary Donnelly's son and daughter-in-law both work for the County. : They all answer to the Chief of Staff, Bill Gaughan who has the power to hire and fire them. : Bill Gaughan controls these councilmen by controlling their jobs. He is the boss of these county-employed Jersey City Council-members at work and in politics. OUR TAX DOLLARS HARD AT WORK. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Artie's Deli posted Message 2538 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 11, 2004 at 10:08:24 Subject: Re: Your COUNTY Tax Dollars At Work(?) Corrections Wasn't Arnold William (so valuable for hanging campaing signs) in for $25,000 for nobody seemed to know what. And then there was Bob Magro, given the heaveho by the city and then snapped up by the County as a consultant at $25,000 PER QUARTER. Is he still providing that County with valuable advice? And I guess he came cheap, for there was the telephone outfit that they needed to pay $800,000 MORE THAN THE LOWEST BID!!! : : How many more are there? : : Bridget Gaughan's getting $70,000. : : Harvey Smith, too now? : THAT IS CORRECT. UNDER SHERIFF. HE IS QUALIFIED BY HIS MANY YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE. That will be $81,000. : He took a cut from $90,000 at Dickinson to do this because the kids in the school were calling him "Uncle Harvey" : : Councilman Gaughan has a job as the Chief of Staff to the County Executive. ($100,000) : NO, THAT'S ONLY $95,000, BUT HE SAYS HE EARNS EVERY PENNY. : : Several members of the Council are also on the County payroll with high paying jobs and they answer to Councilman Gaughan. : : Councilman Junior Maldonado has a $80,000 a year job at the Hudson County Improvement Authority. : MAKE THAT $88,000, PLEASE. : : Councilman Mariano Vega has a $90,000 a year job as the director of Public Resources. : MAKE THAT $93,000, PLEASE : : : Councilman Peter Brennan has a $65,000 a year job as a maintenance man. : CHECK : : Councilwoman Mary Donnelly's son and daughter-in-law both work for the County. : : They all answer to the Chief of Staff, Bill Gaughan who has the power to hire and fire them. : : Bill Gaughan controls these councilmen by controlling their jobs. He is the boss of these county-employed Jersey City Council-members at work and in politics. : OUR TAX DOLLARS HARD AT WORK. ***************** End Of Article ****************** All Part of the Federal Investigation posted Message 2539 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 11, 2004 at 11:40:39 Subject: Secret Sue's Hubby's Gets Hush Money This is how Menendez's corrupt HCDO is Keeping Secret Sue QUIET - Remember - They DON"T want her to tell the truth about THEM , ISTEA and Bobby J. To ensure this Menendez has bought off Sue's Husband Bob with a $ 100,000.00 County Job. Paid out at $ 25,000 per quarter. THATS $ 2000.00 A WEEK HUSH MONEY ! GOD BLESS AMERICA ! SILENCE IS GOLDEN.......... ISN"T IT SUE ??????? Good News is Sue's Secret won't be a Secret very long !!!!!! But will they Still get the HUSH MONEY ???? LMFAO !!!!! : And then there was Bob Magro, given the heaveho by the city and then snapped up by the County as a consultant at $25,000 PER QUARTER. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ENOUGH! ENOUGH! posted Message 2540 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 11, 2004 at 11:59:32 Subject: THIS IS DISGRACEFUL! HARVEY SMITH IS A GOOD MAN! STOP WITH THIS UNCLE HARVEY! : THAT IS CORRECT. UNDER SHERIFF. HE IS QUALIFIED BY HIS MANY YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE. That will be $81,000. : He took a cut from $90,000 at Dickinson to do this because the kids in the school were calling him "Uncle Harvey" : : Councilman Gaughan has a job as the Chief of Staff to the County Executive. ($100,000) : NO, THAT'S ONLY $95,000, BUT HE SAYS HE EARNS EVERY PENNY. : : Several members of the Council are also on the County payroll with high paying jobs and they answer to Councilman Gaughan. : : Councilman Junior Maldonado has a $80,000 a year job at the Hudson County Improvement Authority. : MAKE THAT $88,000, PLEASE. : : Councilman Mariano Vega has a $90,000 a year job as the director of Public Resources. : MAKE THAT $93,000, PLEASE : : : Councilman Peter Brennan has a $65,000 a year job as a maintenance man. : CHECK : : Councilwoman Mary Donnelly's son and daughter-in-law both work for the County. : : They all answer to the Chief of Staff, Bill Gaughan who has the power to hire and fire them. : : Bill Gaughan controls these councilmen by controlling their jobs. He is the boss of these county-employed Jersey City Council-members at work and in politics. : OUR TAX DOLLARS HARD AT WORK. ***************** End Of Article ****************** By Usning HUSH MONEY posted Message 2541 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 11, 2004 at 12:26:26 Subject: How To Keep Secret Sue Quiet This is how Menendez's corrupt HCDO is Keeping Secret Sue QUIET - Remember - They DON"T want her to tell the truth about THEM , ISTEA and Bobby J. To ensure this Menendez has bought off Sue's Husband Bob with a $ 100,000.00 County Consultant 's Job. A " Consultant " Paid out at $ 25,000 per quarter. (Notice it's paid out by the quarter incase Sue get's out of line - and lets the secrets out) THATS $ 2000.00 A WEEK HUSH MONEY ! GOD BLESS AMERICA ! SILENCE IS GOLDEN.......... ISN"T IT SUE ??????? Good News is Sue's Secret won't be a Secret very long !!!!!! But will Sue & Bob still get the HUSH MONEY ???? LMFAO !!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 2542 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 11, 2004 at 21:44:45 Subject: The Return of Secret Sue It appears that the cretin with the obsession with Sue Mack has returned to these forums. This person has no credible evidence. In fact, the charges made are simply untrue. I don't know where this person is getting the information posted in these rooms. I suspect that it is being invented. If this person had the courage to stand up, reveal his/her identity and prove the charges, they might have some credibility. ***************** End Of Article ****************** AUNT JEMIMA posted Message 2543 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 12, 2004 at 06:38:27 Subject: UNCLE HARVEY HARVEY SMITH IS A GOOD MAN! STOP WITH THIS UNCLE HARVEY! What the hell is so good about him? What has he ever done, except for himself? How can you respect a man who obviously has no self-respect? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lil' LizaJane posted Message 2544 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 12, 2004 at 07:15:00 Subject: Re: UNCLE HARVEY : HARVEY SMITH IS A GOOD MAN! STOP WITH THIS UNCLE HARVEY! ::The man can't even string together a coherent sentence without Gaughan's hand being up the back of his jacket to make his mouth move. Crisis intervention at Dickinson? That's pretty funny since the man is a walking disaster. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Alright already! posted Message 2545 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 12, 2004 at 11:57:00 Subject: Re: UNCLE HARVEY : : HARVEY SMITH IS A GOOD MAN! STOP WITH THIS UNCLE HARVEY! I won't call him UNCLE HARVEY any more. Because he is black with a white stripe up his tail I will call him what he is, A SKUNK! : ::The man can't even string together a coherent sentence without Gaughan's hand being up the back of his jacket to make his mouth move. Crisis intervention at Dickinson? That's pretty funny since the man is a walking disaster. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I always have it my way! posted Message 2546 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 12, 2004 at 14:13:11 Subject: To: alright already! And you would know being you are one too! You may not be black with a white stripe but, you sure do S T I N K : : : HARVEY SMITH IS A GOOD MAN! STOP WITH THIS UNCLE HARVEY! : I won't call him UNCLE HARVEY any more. Because he is black with a white stripe up his tail I will call him what he is, A SKUNK! : : ::The man can't even string together a coherent sentence without Gaughan's hand being up the back of his jacket to make his mouth move. Crisis intervention at Dickinson? That's pretty funny since the man is a walking disaster. ***************** End Of Article ****************** National News posted Message 2547 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 12, 2004 at 18:50:06 Subject: John Shinnick, One of Bobby J's Good Old Boys January 2, 2004 Dear Freeholder Stack: I would like to commend you for your concerns and investigation of our tax monies being spent at the Community College. I am hoping you will further investigate the Communications Human Resource Department Director who spends most of his time off campus running his photography business in Jersey City for his own personal gain - double dipping on the taxpayers. If you call him at the College the secretary covers for him in his absence. In return, Mr. Shinnick repays her by giving her false overtime pay for work she does not do - also double dipping. What are the credentials of the Director of Human Resources and Communications, Mr. John Shinnick (a photographer), $85,000 a year plus benefits and the college pays for his training. Why is he on the taxpayers payroll since the past County Executive" Bobby J', put him there? "For being one of the "good old boys of Hudson County". President Glen Gabert should explain how he can allow, John Shinnick, an unqualified manager on the payroll of HCCC with the responsibility of scrutinizing faculty and staff's qualifications, while his own are questionable. Your questions regarding publications also fall under Mr. iohn Shinnick. Keep up the good work for the future of Hudson County. C: Jersey Journal (Hudson County Residents miss Peter Weiss's investigative reporting) Thomas DeGise, Hudson County Executive The next Board of Trustee meeting for HCCC is Tuesday, January 13th at 6:00 at the new location at 70 Sip Avenue. ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 2548 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 12, 2004 at 18:52:01 Subject: "Mayor Cunningham to be Sworn in as State Senator for 31st District" "Mayor Cunningham to be Sworn in as State Senator for 31st District" Cunningham to be First Jersey City Mayor to Hold a State Senate Seat TRENTON - Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham will be sworn in as state Senator for the 31st Legislative District during a 12 noon ceremony, Tuesday, Jan. 13, 2004 in the Assembly Chambers of the State Legislature. Cunningham, who was elected on Nov. 4, 2003, will be the first Mayor of Jersey City to serve in the state Senate. "I am looking forward to beginning my tenure as state Senator," Cunningham said. "I will continue to serve the people of Jersey City as Mayor, but now will be able to make sure Jersey City and Bayonne have a strong voice in Trenton." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hop-a-long Cassidy posted Message 2549 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 12, 2004 at 21:23:43 Subject: Man on horseback Will Mayor Man ride to his swearing in on horeseback with his cowboy hat on ? If so, how will the photograpers know who the real horse's a$$ is ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2550 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 13, 2004 at 09:30:56 Subject: Re: Man on horseback LMAO ***************** End Of Article ****************** Secaucus Race Track posted Message 2551 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 13, 2004 at 12:18:21 Subject: Re: Man on horseback : Will Mayor Man ride to his swearing in on horeseback with his cowboy hat on ? If so, how will the photograpers know who the real horse's a$$ is ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2552 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 13, 2004 at 13:09:40 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show For 01/12/04 To access the Online Audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2553 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 13, 2004 at 14:16:24 Subject: NJN Video: Nick Sacco Votes Against the New Drunk Driving Law State Senator Nick Sacco unexpectedly champions States' Rights by casting the lone no vote against the new blood alcohol limit. To view the NJN News video Online, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Master Cylinder posted Message 2554 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 13, 2004 at 16:27:15 Subject: I come to praise Joe Doria, not to bury him! "So, for the last hour or so, we listened to the members of the majority party sing the praises of the man into whose back they so deeply thrust the knife not all that long ago. Time heals all wounds, I guess." Assemblyman Michael Patrick Carroll ***************** End Of Article ****************** O' vey and this is his press release..LMAO! posted Message 2555 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 14, 2004 at 01:11:06 Subject: Read this -he sounds like he only made it to 5th grade FOR RELEASE: Immediate CONTACT: Jim Manion Jan. 13, 2004 Tel: (609) 292-5215 Fax: (609) 633-7254 SENATOR CUNNINGHAM ON STATE OF THE STATE TRENTON - Senator Glenn D. Cunningham, D-31, made the following comments after listening to Governor McGreevey's State of the State Address today before a joint session of the Legislature. "The Governor presented a very acceptable road map for the next two years. I liked what I heard about improving government efficiencies. I liked the after-school proposal to help young people, but I hope he was talking about state-mandate, state-pay because the communities need that help from the State. I would have liked to have heard more about dealing with the problems of the cities, but I have some thoughts I would like to share with him in the coming months and I just hope he listens." # ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, The Urban Times News posted Message 2556 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 14, 2004 at 07:25:15 Subject: METER STILL RUNNING ON CITY FINANCES WITH NO ACTION FROM COUNCIL-COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE HIGHER PROPERTY TAX METER STILL RUNNING ON CITY FINANCES WITH NO ACTION FROM COUNCIL-COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE HIGHER PROPERTY TAX ***************** End Of Article ****************** What A Phoney ! posted Message 2557 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 14, 2004 at 11:52:45 Subject: Bernie Kenny Volunteers At Soup Kitchen ? From the Jersey Sournal : Kenny, who said he has been volunteering at a soup kitchen, said he had allowed his attention to turn away from the state's poor and disadvantaged for too long. IS BERNIE PREPARING FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE ? ? ? PERHAPS HE IS LOOKING FOR "FORGIVENESS" ***************** End Of Article ****************** pinkydtjc posted Message 2558 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 14, 2004 at 12:54:13 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Volunteers At Soup Kitchen ? On the other hand, perhaps he is doing it because they needed the help. If the Senator is volunteering ...I say kudos to him! What charitable things do you do? ***************** End Of Article ****************** SENATOR CUNNINGHAM ON STATE OF THE STATE posted Message 2559 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 14, 2004 at 13:00:58 Subject: Re: Read this -he sounds like he only made it to 5th grade The "I"s are a bit much. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Begin At Home posted Message 2560 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 14, 2004 at 13:11:13 Subject: Charitable Things Well Pinky - One of the most charitable thing I do each and every day is READ YOUR PATHETIC POSTS ! I even tolerate your mindless, kool aid drinking banter and praise of Boss Bobalou and the HCDO mobsters. I truly feel sorry for people like you who are so mentally handicapped. That's enough to get me past the Pearly White Gates ! : On the other hand, perhaps he is doing it because they needed the help. : If the Senator is volunteering ...I say kudos to him! : What charitable things do you do? ***************** End Of Article ****************** pinkydtjc posted Message 2561 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 14, 2004 at 13:40:48 Subject: Re: Charitable Things L.M.A.O... This is all you could come up. We are thrilled to know that you go on to GetNJ.com as your charitable contribution to society...way to go. You're an inspiration to us all. Well Pinky - One of the most charitable thing I do each and every day is READ YOUR PATHETIC POSTS ! I even tolerate your mindless, kool aid drinking banter and praise of Boss Bobalou and the HCDO mobsters. I truly feel sorry for people like you who are so mentally handicapped. That's enough to get me past the Pearly White Gates ! : On the other hand, perhaps he is doing it because they needed the help. : If the Senator is volunteering ...I say kudos to him! : What charitable things do you do? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Begin At- Home posted Message 2562 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 14, 2004 at 18:20:08 Subject: Re: Charitable Things Well Pinky - : One of the most charitable thing I do each and every day is write my PATHETIC POSTS ! : I hope you can tolerate my mindless, kool aid drinking banter and praise of Boss Bobby Jackson and the UTN mobsters. I truly feel sorry for people like me who are so mentally handicapped. : That's enough to get me past the Pearly White Gates ! Opps I meant "Black" : : On the other hand, perhaps he is doing it because they needed the help. : : If the Senator is volunteering ...I say kudos to him! : : What charitable things do you do? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why Bernie Became Hunble posted Message 2563 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 14, 2004 at 23:35:06 Subject: Pinky -Tell It to Chris Dhristie Pinky - AKA KAY L - Of Constitution Court Tell it all to Chris Christie - - He knows why Bernie is acting like this. SOON WE WELL ALL KNOW !!!!!!- ROFLMFAO : L.M.A.O... : This is all you could come up. : We are thrilled to know that you go on to GetNJ.com as your charitable contribution to society...way to go. : You're an inspiration to us all. : : Well Pinky - : One of the most charitable thing I do each and every day is READ YOUR PATHETIC POSTS ! : I even tolerate your mindless, kool aid drinking banter and praise of Boss Bobalou and the HCDO mobsters. I truly feel sorry for people like you who are so mentally handicapped. : That's enough to get me past the Pearly White Gates ! : : : On the other hand, perhaps he is doing it because they needed the help. : : If the Senator is volunteering ...I say kudos to him! : : What charitable things do you do? ***************** End Of Article ****************** One who knows both posted Message 2564 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 15, 2004 at 00:02:28 Subject: Re: Pinky -Tell It to Chris Dhristie Sorry to burst your bubble but, Pinky is not the same person as Kay L. : : : L.M.A.O... : : This is all you could come up. : : We are thrilled to know that you go on to GetNJ.com as your charitable contribution to society...way to go. : : You're an inspiration to us all. : : : : Well Pinky - : : One of the most charitable thing I do each and every day is READ YOUR PATHETIC POSTS ! : : I even tolerate your mindless, kool aid drinking banter and praise of Boss Bobalou and the HCDO mobsters. I truly feel sorry for people like you who are so mentally handicapped. : : That's enough to get me past the Pearly White Gates ! : : : : : On the other hand, perhaps he is doing it because they needed the help. : : : If the Senator is volunteering ...I say kudos to him! : : : What charitable things do you do? ***************** End Of Article ****************** www.njsendems.com posted Message 2565 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 15, 2004 at 08:12:18 Subject: KENNY: SPEECH A TURNING POINT FOR McGREEVEY FOR RELEASE: Immediate CONTACT: Jim Manion Jan. 13, 2004 Tel: (609) 292-5215 KENNY: SPEECH A TURNING POINT FOR McGREEVEY TRENTON - Senate Majority Leader Bernard F. Kenny Jr. today made the following comments about Governor McGreevey's State of the State Address. "I think the speech will mark a positive turning point for Governor McGreevey. I think he upbeat, positive and committed to working with the Legislature to get things done. He captured the sense of a forward-moving, positive agenda. Now I think the Legislature has to work over his proposals to make them the best that they can be." # ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2566 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 15, 2004 at 09:51:27 Subject: NJN Video: Independent Democrats Nominate Nia Gill For Senate President To preserve the independence of the Legislature from the Governor, free Democrats offered the Senate Presidency to a number of Republicans. Sad to relate, all either felt unable to deal with New Jersey's problems, were afraid of the Democrats, had made deals with McGreevey, OR ALL OF THE ABOVE! Once it became clear that the Senate Republicans would not seize the initiative, in a symbolic gesture, the free Democrats nominatated Nia Gill for Senate President. To view NJN video Online, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MD2020 posted Message 2567 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 15, 2004 at 11:48:09 Subject: Re: Charitable Things If the H.C.D.O. serves Kool-Ade I'm flipping. Sick of Glenn serving me drinks in a brown paper bag and straw. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Boones Farm posted Message 2568 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 15, 2004 at 18:28:30 Subject: Re: Charitable Things Very funny...hic-up ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan H. Eason posted Message 2569 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 16, 2004 at 06:18:57 Subject: Cunningham and Manzo Pick Clark for President January 14, 2003 Contact: Stan H. Eason For Immediate Release Director of Communications (201)376-2788 Senator, Meet the General! Cunningham and Manzo Pick Clark for President TETERBORO - Senator Glenn D. Cunningham, Mayor of Jersey City, and the 31st District legislative slate endorsed presidential hopeful retired General Wesley Clark following a round-table meeting today. Clark, who has rallied in the polls for the democratic nomination for this year's presidential election, has been in contact with Cunningham the last few weeks and sought the new senator as "someone who would be good on our team." Cunningham, along with Assemblyman Lou Manzo celebrate just their second day in state-elected offices by endorsing the career-distinguished Clark. "It is a personal honor to meet General Clark and support his candidacy for president," said Cunningham, who served four years in the United States Marines. "Clark has proven leaderships skills, full grasp of the issues confronting America and unmatched integrity and dedication to this country. "In a period of "orange" alerts and attacks on our country, Clark is someone whose military background of leading thousands would be an asset to America," Cunningham said. "Clark has also shown sensitivity to human issues that confront America, be it unemployment, housing and health care for our seniors and the need for better schools for our children. He is the ideal candidate to lead our country." In 1962 Clark was admitted to the United States Military Academy. During a 38-year career of public service in the United States Army, Clark shined and achieved the rank of four-star general. During his tenure in the service Clark trained soldiers and lead troops in times of war and of peace. While commanding a mechanized infantry company in the jungles of Viet Nam, Clark, who was just 25 years-old, was shot four times. The young captain, despite his injuries, continued to lead his troops who responded by overrunning the enemy. For his bravery Clark was awarded the Silver Star. "General Clark is a real American who is well versed in all issues, including the need for an open and honest government and someone who realizes we need to be sensitive to our environment," Manzo said.// ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2570 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 16, 2004 at 06:39:15 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Volunteers At Soup Kitchen ? To Stevieeee & Pinky. I want the both of you to take a time out. NOW! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2571 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 16, 2004 at 09:14:18 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Volunteers At Soup Kitchen ? I'm not going to criticize Senator Kenny for this. Actually though, I wasn't quite sure what he meant. Is Bernard Kenny referring to what's become the de rigueur photo op of the emoting public figure ladling out mashed potatoes to the disadvantaged? If that's the case, I won't blame him for participating in what the cookie-cutter press has turned into a required ceremonial function akin to benedictions of the Japanese Emperor. I will criticize the media for foisting this Little Nell routine on one and all. If celebrities want to help the poor, they first might consider coughing up some cash. Next, the Big Names can use their heft to increase public awareness, raise money, start training programs, establish subsidized housing, treatment programs, etc. Also, EVERYBODY might just do their job well so that all benefit. And to answer the peanut gallery that's clicking away to type WHAT ARE YOU DOING?, some time back I did a write up on a local social service program that's doing a great job and posted it at GET NJ. I was told that a foundation in California came across the Page and sent the local charity a check for $25,0000. I'm sure the dollars precipitated by the Web Page helped the poor of Hudson County a lot more than my running down there to offer a warm and hearty handshake. If Senator Kenny means that he's speaking with the poor to learn about the problems that they face and what sort of help they'd like to receive, then that's great. I've accused politicians and their staff of getting lost in a sauce of polls, reports, and studies. It's great if someone with clout is instead going out and just listening to what people have to say. : : From the Jersey Sournal : : Kenny, who said he has been volunteering at a soup kitchen, said he had allowed his attention to turn away from the state's poor and disadvantaged for too long. : : IS BERNIE PREPARING FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE ? ? ? : PERHAPS HE IS LOOKING FOR "FORGIVENESS" ***************** End Of Article ****************** L@@K! posted Message 2572 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 16, 2004 at 10:27:30 Subject: Jersey Journal: Council votes to raise taxes Friday, January 16, 2004 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer Jersey City taxpayers will see an increase in their first-quarter tax bills, reflecting an estimated $10 million increase in the municipal tax levy over last year. With bills set to be sent out early next week and estimated tax payments due Feb. 1, property owners will see a hike of $100 per $100,000 of assessed value. . . . See the Link for the rest of the article. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Planters posted Message 2573 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 16, 2004 at 10:28:05 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Volunteers At Soup Kitchen ? Were you the original poster "what a phoney" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blah blah blah posted Message 2574 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 16, 2004 at 10:42:58 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Volunteers At Soup Kitchen ? WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO! Anthony, did a good deed sometime ago! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2575 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 16, 2004 at 11:46:26 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Volunteers At Soup Kitchen ? : Were you the original poster "what a phoney" Whad'ya thinkin', I'm afflicted by multiple personalities, or what? Or maybe yer sufferin' from dyslexia? Can't you see, plain as day, "I'm not going to criticize Senator Kenny for this." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Give this man a chill-pill posted Message 2576 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 16, 2004 at 11:48:28 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Volunteers At Soup Kitchen ? Well Mr Grumpy face you responded as if you were...lighten friggin up.... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jap posted Message 2577 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 16, 2004 at 12:24:23 Subject: Re: "Mayor Cunningham to be Sworn in as State Senator for 31st District" "When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends." ***************** End Of Article ****************** V I A G R A posted Message 2578 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 17, 2004 at 04:41:14 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Volunteers At Soup Kitchen ? Don't pick on Anthony! Owning this site make his P E N I S seem bigger. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2579 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 17, 2004 at 08:02:39 Subject: NJN Audio - On The Record, July 28, 2002: Michael Aron Interviews Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham speaks about the county-wide feud involving Congressman Robert Mennedez. The show was originally broadcast just after the Mayor's first year in Office. To hear the NJN audio Online, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** suemack posted Message 2580 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 17, 2004 at 13:01:52 Subject: Re: John Shinnick, One of Bobby J's Good Old Boys I believe John Shinnick has a Masters from Montclair in Public Administration, and was an Intern in the Harvard Local Government Program in Masachusettes aside from being a local photographer doesnt anyone check before they post? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lowerhippy posted Message 2581 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 17, 2004 at 13:37:41 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Volunteers At Soup Kitchen ? I guess owning this type of smtt site make Anthony's P-enis larger. : : Were you the original poster "what a phoney" : Whad'ya thinkin', I'm afflicted by multiple personalities, or what? Or maybe yer sufferin' from dyslexia? Can't you see, plain as day, "I'm not going to criticize Senator Kenny for this." ***************** End Of Article ****************** lowerhippy posted Message 2582 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 17, 2004 at 13:39:25 Subject: Re: John Shinnick, One of Bobby J's Good Old Boys Why would they check Sue? Nothing is real here all smut 24/7. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2583 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 17, 2004 at 13:47:26 Subject: NJN Video: Joe Doria Reflects On His Years In The Assembly To view, the NJN Video, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, The Urban Times News posted Message 2584 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 17, 2004 at 14:03:36 Subject: HCDO GIVES GEORGE WILSON’S JOB TO JC COUNCIL PRESIDENT L. HARVEY SMITH sglazer@urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens, Urban Times News posted Message 2585 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 17, 2004 at 14:13:33 Subject: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Urban Times News ***************** End Of Article ****************** DownTown Slim posted Message 2586 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 17, 2004 at 14:24:06 Subject: Fat Joe Gets Fat Contract Fat Joe Doria is getting a $70K a year contract to represent Hudson Crook's County in the Statehous/Assembly as a lobbyist. The people, voters, taxpayers, residents,workers, don't want Fat Bastard or they would have voted for his Fat self, but that obviously does not matter to the people who do matter, and they are not the same people as the ones who live and work and vote here. HCDO is telling us loud and clear how much they care about what we think and what we want. They know what is good for us. Mostly they know what is good for them and don't give a rat's arse about the rest. Tommy D, Bill G, Bernie Jr., Bob-A-Loo all you shining examples, way to go! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hmmmmm posted Message 2587 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 17, 2004 at 15:36:20 Subject: Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" A SAD DAY We marked with sadness the passing of Iman Omar Aziz. Besides other things Aziz was an employee of the Hudson County Jail as its Islamic Chaplain. Aziz was also a spiritual leader and a fixture here in this community for many years—an inspiration to many. We were just as sad that two elected officials only, of all of those in Jersey City, and in the County of Hudson, only two appeared at Aziz’ funeral: Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, and Ward F Council member Viola Richardson. Where was County Executive Tom DeGise? Where was Council President L. Harvey Smith? And what about the rest of the elected officials in the city and in the county? That is a sad day. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well once again Mr. Glazer your wrong....Mr Degise did pay his respects. And BTW why didn't it bother you that Glenn Cunningham and comp. failed to go to Janet Haynes funeral. ***************** End Of Article ****************** July posted Message 2588 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 17, 2004 at 17:50:10 Subject: Hartz Mountain Real Estate Fire sale The lack of seperation of Canary Capital and Hartz Mountain Real Estate will bring the class action settlement of the century prompting the sale of all Hartz Mountain holdings to satisfy the settlement. Jersey City should be ready for lots of buidlings coming on the market rather quickly. So all you HCDO and Jersey City graft takers make room for a new person on the rolladex. The amount paid in settlement to Spitzer was incorrect and with fraud and full disclosure coming in the class action cases now being formulated in various jurisdictions around the country and the world Jersey City should prepare for a collaspe of real estate value. If you are expecting payments in the future they should be questioned. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Webmaster is a lonely old fool. posted Message 2589 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 18, 2004 at 08:26:24 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Volunteers At Soup Kitchen ? : : Were you the original poster "what a phoney" : Whad'ya thinkin', I'm afflicted by multiple personalities, or what? Or maybe yer sufferin' from dyslexia? Can't you see, plain as day, "I'm not going to criticize Senator Kenny for this." Excussssssssssssssssssse me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2590 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 18, 2004 at 10:21:51 Subject: You got a problem wi'dat? : : : Were you the original poster "what a phoney" : : Whad'ya thinkin', I'm afflicted by multiple personalities, or what? Or maybe yer sufferin' from dyslexia? Can't you see, plain as day, "I'm not going to criticize Senator Kenny for this." : Excussssssssssssssssssse me. This here is Jersey City, P.G. -- Pre-Gentrification! You got a problem wi'dat? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City History Web Site posted Message 2591 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 19, 2004 at 05:49:45 Subject: Dr. Martin Luther King's Speeches In Jersey City Dr. Martin Luther King's Speeches In Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just like he did when.... posted Message 2592 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 19, 2004 at 09:41:57 Subject: Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" : A SAD DAY : We marked with sadness the passing of Iman Omar Aziz. Besides other things Aziz was an employee of the Hudson County Jail as its Islamic Chaplain. Aziz was also a spiritual leader and a fixture here in this community for many years—an inspiration to many. : We were just as sad that two elected officials only, of all of those in Jersey City, and in the County of Hudson, only two appeared at Aziz’ funeral: Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, and Ward F Council member Viola Richardson. Where was County Executive Tom DeGise? Where was Council President L. Harvey Smith? And what about the rest of the elected officials in the city and in the county? That is a sad day. : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well once again Mr. Glazer your wrong....Mr Degise did pay his respects. And BTW why didn't it bother you that Glenn Cunningham and comp. failed to go to Janet Haynes funeral. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Just like he (Degise) did when he paid his respects at another funeral. He walked in door, gave condolences to 1 or 2 memebers of family, signed book & left. Total time - 2 minutes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Etiquette Police posted Message 2593 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 19, 2004 at 11:13:43 Subject: Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" : : A SAD DAY : : We marked with sadness the passing of Iman Omar Aziz. Besides other things Aziz was an employee of the Hudson County Jail as its Islamic Chaplain. Aziz was also a spiritual leader and a fixture here in this community for many years—an inspiration to many. : : We were just as sad that two elected officials only, of all of those in Jersey City, and in the County of Hudson, only two appeared at Aziz’ funeral: Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, and Ward F Council member Viola Richardson. Where was County Executive Tom DeGise? Where was Council President L. Harvey Smith? And what about the rest of the elected officials in the city and in the county? That is a sad day. : : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well once again Mr. Glazer your wrong....Mr Degise did pay his respects. And BTW why didn't it bother you that Glenn Cunningham and comp. failed to go to Janet Haynes funeral. : <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< : Just like he (Degise) did when he paid his respects at another funeral. He walked in door, gave condolences to 1 or 2 memebers of family, signed book & left. Total time - 2 minutes. So just how long are you required to stay at a wake where you only casually know the deceased? Some of you people are real idiots. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2594 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 19, 2004 at 12:40:47 Subject: Tonite on Hudson County's Talking. Jersey City hikes taxes 10 million but did the City leave 12 million on the table with the old Medical Center deal? Maybe it's time to revisit the old Med Center deal, Bayonne regulates scooters, Hobokens Dave Roberts handles Hobokens homeless durng cold snap, State wide cell phone ban, The Jersey City DC Ward Alliance Civic Association, All this and more tonite 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone posted Message 2595 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 19, 2004 at 23:34:54 Subject: Chiappone Assigned Assembly Committees CHIAPPONE ASSIGNED TO HOUSING AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT, TELECOMMUNICATIONS, AND SENIORS ISSUES COMMITTEES On Friday January 16, Speaker of the General Assembly, Albio Sires announced Assembly Committee assignments and assigned Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone to the following three committees: Telecommunications and Utilities, Senior Issues, and Housing and Local Government. Stated Assemblyman Chiappone, “I want to thank the Speaker for assigning me to the committees chosen. The ‘Telecommunications and Utilities Committee’ was one of my top two choices and as Cable TV Committee Chairman for the City of Bayonne, I look forward to further effect positive changes on behalf of the cable subscribers of Bayonne and Jersey City and hope to eventually bring about true cable competition to our area. I feel that the knowledge I have gained from having helped drafted and enacted Bayonne’s Telecommunication Ordinance, will enable me to address important issues related to the telecommunication cell phone and data transmission industry. Additionally, with harsh rate increases in our PSE&G bills, I hope to become a staunch legislative advocate on behalf of our residents who have trouble keeping up with the high cost of their gas and electric bills.” “I am absolutely thrilled to be appointed to the ‘Senior Issues Committee,’ as this committee was my favorite choice and one that I felt could empower me to help those who really need the loudest voice in Trenton; and that is our senior citizens. Living on fixed incomes, it is vital that seniors not be deprived of important services, imperative that their costs not be increased, and essential that their benefits not be reduced. Through this committee and in conjunction with my State Assembly office, I will make it a priority to meet with seniors, hear their concerns, and fight for their rights on this very important committee. If there was just one committee I could be appointed to, the Senior Issues Committee would be it.” “Finally, I am excited to be placed on the “Housing and Local Government Committee”. This is a very interesting committee which deals with both housing and planning and development laws which relate to local and county government. In addition to finding ways to provide sensible development and affordable housing, I look forward to expanding the rights of residents to have input in local boards which make such important decisions. For instance, one important right of residents to appeal Zoning Board decisions to the City Council was taken away by our City Council. I will attempt to introduce legislation mandating that appeals of zoning boards be allowed to be made to the governing body of that community. Additionally, I will work to find ways to mandate the provision of adequate parking in all developments.” The first committee meetings take place this Thursday at the Statehouse with the Telecommunication Committee meeting taking place at 10 am and the Senior Issues Committee meeting commencing at 2 pm. Residents who would like to discuss issues pertinent to these committees or other issues of importance can contact Assemblyman Chiappone at 201-437-3242 or stop in at his temporary State Assembly office at 618 Broadway. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Woolly Bully posted Message 2596 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 20, 2004 at 06:36:58 Subject: Tweeedly Dee... Rockin' Whimperin' Throbbin' ***************** End Of Article ****************** Woolly Bully posted Message 2597 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 20, 2004 at 11:44:54 Subject: Tweedly Dum I'm as happy as they come. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inmates Running Aslyum posted Message 2598 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 20, 2004 at 11:45:09 Subject: Menendez Supports Dean After seeing the real Howard Dean last night - it is no wonder why Menendez wants to make this crazy man the President. Dean is OFF THE WALL - Even my 10 year old kid was laughing at Dean's weird concession speech. THIS IS THE GUY MENENDEZ & MCGREEVEY WANT TO BE PRESIDENT !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Woolly Bully posted Message 2599 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 20, 2004 at 16:05:17 Subject: Tweeedly Dee Whimpering Rockin' Throbbin' ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2600 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 20, 2004 at 19:29:03 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of January 19, 2004 To access the Online audio, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2601 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 20, 2004 at 19:37:48 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2602 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 20, 2004 at 20:14:58 Subject: Re: Menendez Supports Dean Rush & Sean had a field day playing the soundbytes. Needed this kind of laugh after one of the most horrible days I have ever had. Thank you Howard. I'm sure you'll have a successful comedic career. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Earth To Pat posted Message 2603 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 20, 2004 at 23:10:58 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of January 19, 2004 : To access the Online audio, click on the Link. Your show is unlistenable and you pretty much are talking to yourself. Back to wrestling big fella. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2604 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 21, 2004 at 13:25:49 Subject: On The Record Video:Michael Aron Interviews Joe Doria Last Sunday, Joe Doria appeared on Michael Aron's On The Record Show. Below are some Links to video highlights that concerning Hudson County. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Both Egomaniac Losers posted Message 2605 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 21, 2004 at 14:07:14 Subject: Menendez & Dean Menendez and Dean - Perfect together - Both are egomaniac losers. All the NJ Democrats lead by Menendez Endorsed Dean early. New Jersey Loses Again -- Thanks Boss Bob A Lou !!! : After seeing the real Howard Dean last night - it is no wonder why Menendez wants to make this crazy man the President. : Dean is OFF THE WALL - Even my 10 year old kid was laughing at Dean's weird concession speech. : THIS IS THE GUY MENENDEZ & MCGREEVEY WANT TO BE PRESIDENT !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2606 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 21, 2004 at 16:02:45 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of January 19, 2004 : : To access the Online audio, click on the Link. : Your show is unlistenable and you pretty much are talking to yourself. Back to wrestling big fella. This will be bad news for you,I have a new show startng on Saturdays called Town Hall Meeting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SENORJEROME posted Message 2607 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 21, 2004 at 17:34:28 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of January 19, 2004 : : : To access the Online audio, click on the Link. : : Your show is unlistenable and you pretty much are talking to yourself. Back to wrestling big fella. : This will be bad news for you,I have a new show startng on Saturdays called Town Hall Meeting. ::Oh Pat. This is just so wonderful. I hear you are a very attractive man and would just LOVE to meet you over some frozen daquiris. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2608 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 21, 2004 at 17:42:14 Subject: Re: Menendez & Dean Sweetie Pie it should be: Menendez, McGriefy & Dean - perfect together. The Three Stooges. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frick Frack posted Message 2609 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 21, 2004 at 19:23:06 Subject: Pat Saved Our Marriage who needs to listen ...... heck my wife simply hears Pat's sultry voice and instantly wants to " do it ". Pat show has been the best thing to happpen to our marriage since my wife's implants and the Mexican Vaigra I get cheap from Canada. Now Pat will be on the air on Saturdays - I will just quote Menendez's Presidential Pick Howard Dean " YYYYYRRAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL" Yeah Baby !!! : : This will be bad news for you,I have a new show startng on Saturdays called Town Hall Meeting. : : ::Oh Pat. This is just so wonderful. I hear you are a very attractive man and would just LOVE to meet you over some frozen daquiris. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 2610 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 21, 2004 at 19:31:23 Subject: Hmmm makes ya' wonder..... Who Would You Elect?? It is time to elect a new world leader, and your vote counts. Here's the scoop on the three leading candidates. Who are they? Candidate A: Associates with ward heelers and consults with astrologists. He's had two mistresses. He chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day. Candidate B: Was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of brandy every evening. Candidate C: Is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, and only drinks an occasional beer. Which of these candidates was your choice? Candidate A: is Franklin D. Roosevelt Candidate B: is Winston Churchill Candidate C: is Adolph Hitler ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2611 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 21, 2004 at 19:35:47 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 2612 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 21, 2004 at 19:37:17 Subject: Hmmmmm - You Work for the Jersey City Government If... * You understand the rationalization of an acronym comprised of acronyms. * You can name the project leader of more than 10 projects including your own, but still can't explain in the simplest terms what they do. * You know that the location of a meeting is directly related to it's importance. (1) A meeting at Fort Hood requires a subordinate or a contractor. (2) The same meeting at Lake Tahoe requires your personal attention. * You work for an acronym, on an acronym, and your job title is an acronym. * You've sat at the same desk for 3 years, done the same thing for 3 years, but have had 3 different business cards. * The process becomes more important than the product. * You don't see anything wrong with attending a meeting on a subject you know nothing about. * You feel you contributed to the meeting just by being there. * You realize that a paperless office is impossible. Actually, you believe it is possible, just not in your office. * You keep documents/manuals on projects that have been long since canceled. * You stop raising issues/problems because you know you will be the one answering them. * You fly across the country to attend a conference with 100+ people to discuss the fact that the project does not have enough money. * You've sat at the same desk for 4 years and worked for three different agencies. * Your name plate is attached with Velcro. * Your resume is on a diskette in your pocket. * The office symbol on your badge is applied with tape. * When someone asks about what you do for a living, you lie. * You get really excited about a 2% pay raise. * Your biggest loss from a system crash is that you loose your best jokes. * Your supervisor doesn't have the ability to do your job. * You sit in a cubicle smaller than your bedroom closet. * You think lunch is just a meeting to which you drive. * It's dark when you drive to and from work. * Fun is when issues are assigned to someone else. * Communication is something your group is having problems with. * You see a good looking person and know it is a visitor. * Free food left over from meetings is your main staple. * Weekends are those days your spouse makes you stay home. * Being sick is defined as can't walk or you're in the hospital. * Art involves a white board. * You're already late on the assignment you just got. * You work 200 hours for the $100 performance check and jubilantly say, "Oh wow, thanks!" * Dilbert cartoons hang outside every cube. * Your boss' favorite lines are "when you get a few minutes, " "in your spare time, " "when you're freed up, " and "I have an opportunity for you." * Vacation is something you roll over to next year. * Your relatives and family describe your job as "works with computers." * Change is the norm. * Nepotism is encouraged. * The only reason you recognize your kids is because their pictures hang in your cube. * You only have makeup for fluorescent lighting. * You can name more people that used to work with you than people who do. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 2613 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 21, 2004 at 19:44:02 Subject: Mayor -Man Glenn and Sandra Cunningham are vacationing in Sandra's home town and stop at a gas station to gas up. The attendant comes out and fills up their car and when he leans over to collect the money he and Sandra recognize one another and begin making small talk. When they finally leave Glenn asks her who she was talking to and she says it was her first boyfriend from back in high school. Glenn says that's nice and asks her, "Do you ever think about what life would be like if things had been different and you would have married him instead of me?" To which Sandra responds, "Yes I do, you would be pumping gas and he would be Mayor-Man." ***************** End Of Article ****************** AM inferno posted Message 2614 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 21, 2004 at 20:19:08 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of January 19, 2004 A man on his way home from work at the County came to a dead halt in traffic and thought to himself, "Wow, this traffic seems worse than usual. Nothing's even moving." He notices a police officer walking back and forth between the lines of cars so he rolls down his window and asks, "Excuse me officer, what's the hold up?" The officer replies, "Pat O'Melia just found out he was a moron and he's all depressed. He stopped his VW in the middle of Kennedy Blvd. and he's threatening to douse himself in gasoline and set himself on fire. He says his family hates him and he doesn't have the $33. he owes the radio station. I'm walking around taking up a collection for him." "Oh really? How much have you collected so far?" "I've got a lot of folks still siphoning; but right now I have about 30 gallons." ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2615 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 22, 2004 at 04:31:55 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A day in the life.... posted Message 2616 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 22, 2004 at 08:49:34 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of January 19, 2004 A man on his way home from work at City Hall came to a dead halt in traffic and thought to himself, "Wow, this traffic seems worse than usual. Nothing's even moving." He notices a police officer walking back and forth between the lines of cars so he rolls down his window and asks, "Excuse me officer, what's the hold up?" The officer replies, "Pat O'Melia just found out he was a useless toad and he's all depressed. He stopped his VW in the middle of Kennedy Blvd. and he's threatening to douse himself in gasoline and set himself on fire. He says his family hates him and he doesn't have the $150.00 he owes the Radio Station. I'm walking around taking up a collection for him." "Oh really? How much have you collected so far?" "I've got a lot of folks still siphoning; but right now I have about three hundred gallons." ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2617 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 22, 2004 at 09:41:49 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** POCO_NOSE posted Message 2618 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 22, 2004 at 10:04:59 Subject: Fill er up Glenn and Sandra are vacationing in Sandra's home town and stop at a gas station to gas up. The attendant comes out and fills up their car and when he leans over to collect the money he and Hillary recognize one another and begin making small talk. When they finally leave Glenn asks her who she was talking to and she says it was her first boyfriend from back in high school. Glenn says that's nice and asks her, "Do you ever think about what life would be like if things had been different and you would have married him instead of me?" To which Sandra responds, "Yes I do, you would be pumping gas and he would be Mayor-Man." ***************** End Of Article ****************** A gastly situation posted Message 2619 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 22, 2004 at 10:09:44 Subject: Patiooooooooooooooooooooooooo A man on his way home from work at City hall came to a dead halt in traffic and thought to himself, "Wow, this traffic seems worse than usual. Nothing's even moving." He notices a police officer walking back and forth between the lines of cars so he rolls down his window and asks, "Excuse me officer, what's the hold up?" The officer replies, "Pat Omelia just found out he was a looser and he's all depressed. He stopped his VW in the middle of Kennedy Blvd. and he's threatening to douse himself in gasoline and set himself on fire. He says Hudson County hates him and he doesn't have the $300.00 dollars he owes the radio Station. I'm walking around taking up a collection for him." "Oh really? How much have you collected so far?" "I've got a lot of folks still siphoning; but right now I have about Two hundred gallons." ***************** End Of Article ****************** K-12 posted Message 2620 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 22, 2004 at 10:22:33 Subject: Menenendez to support Schundler for mayor? In the first place, let me address the Congressman, and let me do that without equivocation -- you will not get away with this. You've involved yourself in a lot of messes over the years without staining your suit, but not this time. You can't get a a dozen words out of your mouth without uttering the phrase "working people." Don't play the Judas goat by trying to deliver the working people of Jersey City to the slaughter at the hands of that notorious anti-Labor figure, Bret Schundler. It won't work. If you try, you'll be out of power forever. The same goes for anyone that you try to hide behind. And for Schundler, examine your options. Bob Grant will probably retire soon and Rush Limbaugh has been discredited. You'll do well in talk radio. It's obvious that the HCDO is looking for a Great White Hope to challenge Glenn Cunningham. But why would Schundler want to become mayor of Jersey City again? Because the Board of Education of Jersey City will soon return to municipal control, that's why. And, as Mr. Schundler, echoing the bank robber Willy Sutton, often says, "that's where the money is." What will the people of Jersey City see with Schundler controlling the Jersey City Public Schools? You don't need a crystal ball. Examine Schundler's record as mayor. and what's been going on at the Golden Door Charter School, from which that notorious utlra-right wing Schundlerite, Paul Schaeder has just been ousted. The school payroll will get padded with every useless hack willing to hand out flyers for Schundler on election day. A sorry parade of law suits to promote school prayer will be used to draw attention from the fact that the delivery of necessary services is plummeting through mismanagement. The schools will be used as a beach head to advance anti-Labor practices. The best the public schools might expect is benign neglect. At the same time, taxpayer dollars will be diverted to private schools. Don't forget that the Christian Reich leader Dan Cassidy (aide to Schundler for many years thanks to the taxpayers of Jersey City) is now federal regional education head. What might he and Schundler have in mind? And one might ask where the money is for Bret Schundler. He doesn't seemed concerned with his own political career. And please don't mention "sincerity." Could the big payday for Schundler be as a fundraiser for extremist religious and anti-Labor groups? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2621 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 22, 2004 at 10:40:32 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Special Ed posted Message 2622 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 22, 2004 at 11:11:12 Subject: AYALA-McGEE-Sengco Jersey City is in the hands of Bill Ayala because of his undue influence over Glenn Cunningham. This ambitious careerist has no qualification, no resume, no background, no experience,no talent, no people skills, no personality, no intelligence, no ability to communicate, lead, manage, or anything else. His one asset is his deathgrip on the attention and confidence and trust of one profoundly stupid Mayor. Ayala blocks access to the Mayor by all others but a handfull, not including any city employees. McGee cannot see the Mayor if he wants to. McGee is a talented, competent, experienced, qualified professional with a mind-blowing skill set, but is unable to do most of the things that he would do if given a free hand. All this is blocked and stifled by Ayala, with a generous assist from that curious growth on the Mayor's buttocks, Eugene Drayton, aka Deputy Dawg. Sengco barely speaks English, let alone grasps finance, but is obsequious to Ayala and so fares better. Ayala thinks that she can deliver Filipino votes. She could not deliver Filipino food. No self respecting Filipino restaurant would have Imelda Jr. working there if she were not the owner. Together she and Ayala could not balance their check books, yet they have taken over all the finance functions between them. McGee's advisor came up with a comprehensive solution to the City's finance problems that was praised by the State of New Jersey, analyzed and also praised by Goldman Sachs, though they are not party to the transaction and Bond Rating services. But in their infinite wisdom and based on his many years of financial experience, Ayala put the kabosh on the plan saying it was "too much." He never did explain "compared to what" Now the council opposition has picked up the mantra, chanting "too much" and the whole thing has degenerated into a negotiation over how much of a tax increase there ought to be, not whether there should be one. No tax increase would have been needed for many years if McGee's advisor's plan had been let pass. Now thanks to Ayala it is a question of how much of a tax increase there will be. This is just one of many Ayalisms where this 32 year old former truck driver has derailed the administration. There is a consistent pattern of this intrusion by Ayala into areas where he clearly knows nothing yet asserts his will over qualified personnel. Makes you wonder who this guy really works for and what his career goals truly are. Once is a screw up. Twice is too many. Ayalism occurs continually. Sabotage pure and simple. ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 2623 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 22, 2004 at 11:37:53 Subject: "Mayor Cunningham to Launch Voter Education Drive" "Mayor Cunningham to Launch Voter Education Drive" Training Session First of Several To Teach Voters How to Use New Machines JERSEY CITY - Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham will kick-off a "Voter Education Campaign" at 1 p.m. Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at the Mary McCleod Bethune Community Center at 140 Martin Luther King Drive. The campaign, which will consist of several training sessions at community centers and public meeting places throughout the city, is aimed at educating voters about the new electronic voting machines mandated by federal law. The machines, which are part of the "Help America Vote Act," will first be used during the School Board election in April. "As Americans, the right to vote is one of our most valuable liberties and something that must be safe-guarded at all costs," Cunningham said. "We must make it a priority to ensure that all residents of this country know how to use the new voting machines and what they need to bring to the polls when voting." "That's why I am reaching out to the people of Jersey City to make sure they are fully informed," Cunningham added. In addition to the electronic machines, new voters are also required to present two forms of identification when voting, also a provision of the Congressional voting act passed in October of 2002 but which became law January 1, 2004. Some forms of identification include a driver's license, passport, and a birth certificate, and training sessions will further explain this element of the new voting act. Hudson County Superintendent of Elections Marie Borace will attend the training the session, which is the first of its kind in the county. The old machines, which Cunningham said are part of the County's storied political history, will be preserved for educational purposes. In Jersey City, one of the machines will be on display at the Jersey City Museum. ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** SiddVicious posted Message 2624 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 22, 2004 at 12:13:39 Subject: MCGEE IS AN IDIOT !!! "McGee is a talented, competent, experienced, qualified professional with a mind-blowing skill set, but is unable to do most of the things that he would do if given a free hand." Are you on drugs ??? Ask City professional staff or anyone in the business community in Jersey City what they think of McGee. The almost unanmous answer will be that the man is a complete incompetent. It doesn't take much brain power to bring a financial consultant in to hatch a plan to put the City in debt for perpetuity. McGee is an arrogant bully, hated by City workers and scorned by the business community. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SiddVicious posted Message 2625 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 22, 2004 at 13:34:50 Subject: Good job K-12 You captured my thoughts about Schundler perfectly. Only problem is ... the HCDO doesn't have anyone alse who can beat Cunningham. Too bad. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Special Ed... posted Message 2626 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 22, 2004 at 14:54:30 Subject: Re: MCGEE IS AN IDIOT !!! Wow You really are vicious : "McGee is a talented, competent, experienced, qualified professional with a mind-blowing skill set, but is unable to do most of the things that he would do if given a free hand." : Are you on drugs ??? Ask City professional staff or anyone in the business community in Jersey City what they think of McGee. The almost unanmous answer will be that the man is a complete incompetent. It doesn't take much brain power to bring a financial consultant in to hatch a plan to put the City in debt for perpetuity. : McGee is an arrogant bully, hated by City workers and scorned by the business community. You obviously have a reason for saying all of that. Do you mind if I ask what that is, an example, an incident, some backup? What about Ayala and Sengco, Imelda, Jr. ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Slim Jim posted Message 2627 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 23, 2004 at 12:52:14 Subject: Ayala is the Disgrace of JC Let's face the facts...we have an administration filled with incompetent idiots. We elected a Mayor with a short-term memory deficit, who hired a Chief of Staff with a personality deficit, who approved a BA that provided us a budget without a deficit, which was turned down by an administration with an intelligence deficit, which is fighting with a City Council with a directional and ethical deficit. But when it comes to placing the ultimate blame somewhere....put it on the head of the Chief of Staff Bill Ayala. He gets the prize for being the most incompetent Chief of Staff in recent history. He makes sure anyone with brains gets no closer to the Mayor than the sidewalk in front of City Hall. Afterall, if intelligence crossed the threshold of the Mayor's Office, it would shine a bright light on the incompetence of the present occupiers of the City's governmental infrastructure. So the BOOBY Prize gets shared by the Mayor for his continually poor personel choices and his bumbling idiot Chief of Staff. : : "McGee is a talented, competent, experienced, qualified professional with a mind-blowing skill set, but is unable to do most of the things that he would do if given a free hand." : : Are you on drugs ??? Ask City professional staff or anyone in the business community in Jersey City what they think of McGee. The almost unanmous answer will be that the man is a complete incompetent. It doesn't take much brain power to bring a financial consultant in to hatch a plan to put the City in debt for perpetuity. : : McGee is an arrogant bully, hated by City workers and scorned by the business community. : You obviously have a reason for saying all of that. Do you mind if I ask what that is, an example, an incident, some backup? What about Ayala and Sengco, Imelda, Jr. ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Randy posted Message 2628 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 23, 2004 at 21:14:38 Subject: support clark Why Wesley Clark? I have voted Republican for the past 4 elections, but this year, Clark has my vote. Yes, yes, I am ashamed to have put Bush in office. I have always been a skeptic when it comes to political leader, but for the first time in a really long time, I am seeing and hearing a truly compassionate "leader" that clearly has the intellectual fortitude, courage and strength to address our nation's important issues and pursue solutions with the force of logic. WESLEY CLARK is THE person that is best suited to be President and THE PERSON who is truly electable!! This is no time to be theoretical--it is time to be practical and stand up for our country and our beliefs and values and get something DONE! Anyone can give $25 or MORE by credit card RIGHT AWAY through the Wesley Clark's website. Obviously, any more than that is of great assistance. I have Wesley Clark's web page that people can use with credit card, etc. click here The next 3 weeks could determine the nominee. Anybody that you feel could do this or help spread the word, please contact. PLEASE FORWARD OR OTHERWISE HELP IF YOU AGREE WITH THE MISSION. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supported By Menendez posted Message 2629 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 23, 2004 at 21:39:35 Subject: Dean = Fred Flintstone Wannabe Howard Dean is a Fred Flintstone Wannabe. Dean is a moron who should never be elected Dog Catcher no less President of the United States. How Stupid does Boss Menendez think the voters of New Jersey are ??? Menendez was one of the first to PROUDLY endorse Howard "Yabba Dabba Dooo" Dean !! Governor McGreevey was the first Governor in the Nation to Endorse the Maniac....Howard Dean - Why ???? County Exec. Tom DeGise also endorsed Crazy Man Dean - What is going on with the HCDO leadership -- They have really lost it. Boss Menendez, Tom De Puppet and Gov. Mc Greedy still support Howard Dean - this speaks volumns about their character or lack there of. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2630 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 24, 2004 at 11:20:58 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SiddVicious posted Message 2631 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 24, 2004 at 17:56:21 Subject: In Glenn We Trust Was just watching the Cunningham swearing in at SPC on cable. If he said one more time that God had helped him make it I was gonna hurl !!! What a freaking hypocrite !!! The man is a thieving racist surrounded by thieving racists. In Godly fashion he has allegedly sired a number of children out of wedlock. Save me from God invoking phonies. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 2632 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 24, 2004 at 18:29:23 Subject: Re: In Glenn We Trust WELL SAID! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens, The Urban Times News posted Message 2633 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 25, 2004 at 05:27:22 Subject: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" The Urban Times News ***************** End Of Article ****************** Appalled posted Message 2634 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 25, 2004 at 07:15:47 Subject: Re: In Glenn We Trust That's nothing...you should have seen last year's State of the City address! It was like a tent revival with Cunningham being God's hand picked successor to Paradise. : Was just watching the Cunningham swearing in at SPC on cable. If he said one more time that God had helped him make it I was gonna hurl !!! : What a freaking hypocrite !!! The man is a thieving racist surrounded by thieving racists. In Godly fashion he has allegedly sired a number of children out of wedlock. : Save me from God invoking phonies. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2635 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 25, 2004 at 12:18:07 Subject: The Arrow That Can Shoot Down the Cunningham Balloon? The radical critique rejects existing culture, existing modal personality. It . . . attack(s) . . . dominant conceptions of reality by way of a doctrine of a "false consciousness" that invalidates the ideas and preferences of everyone except the revolutionary. . . . The doctrine of false consciousness . . . explain(s) why most people do not see the world as the revolutionary does, and do not want what he wants. Jeane J. Kirkpatrick Reflections on Totalitarianism - - - I've heard an outline of a plan to oust Glenn Cunningham. The idea is to start a massive voter registration/motivation drive in the luxury housing along the Waterfront. I specify "motivation," for, as described to me, the architects of this design think that the Waterfront now comes out to vote for national elections. The goal is to create – like a sorcerer out of a vacuum – a dependable class of voters to offset Glenn Cunningham’s overwhelming advantage in Ward F. At first glance one might assume that this is a crazy scheme to "raise the consciousness" of the relatively well-to-do so that they can realize that they are oppressed by the poor of Jersey City. Though the foundation rests on insanity, the implementation of this concept is not intrinsically impossible. Lenin gave up on the workers and aimed his arguments at a privileged elite – the revolutionary avant-garde. Nearly a century of domination of Eurasia is pretty good by most definitions of success. Also, lacking any points of contact with reality is no hindrance to the creation of a scapegoat. Something like this was tried in the primary campaign, given in a slapdash fashion. Cunningham was often accused of delivering the blushing Loew's to the bogeymen. Supposedly, this “issue” was intended to set the cultured quivering with rage. (As an aside, it was painfully clear that the would-be provocateurs, though posing as Newport tenants, did not live in Jersey City, for they always spelled the name Lowe’s – like the North Bergen hardware store.) Here’s why I think, in practical terms, that this latest “can’t lose” project can’t win. Many of the new Waterfront residents are not U.S. citizens. No matter how many foreign nationals there are, count them out on election day. Here’s how the U.S. citizens line up. After moving to Jersey City, to get a cheaper rate on auto insurance, a hefty slice of this pie continues to use their parent’s (or other relative’s) out-of-state (or suburban New Jersey address) address as residence of record. Count them out, too. The overwhelming local politics mindset of the new people is complete apathy. A few years back, a pollster asked Waterfront residents who the mayor was. Most said Giuliani. (I wonder if they thought that Rudy was mayor of Jersey City. Or, if they assumed Jersey City was part of NYC.) Keep in mind that at this time Bret Schundler had name recognition even in Antarctica. It’ll take a helluva push overcome this level of inertia. My impression is that most of the new Waterfront residents are more likely to visit Athens than Journal Square. The New Yorker’s Vision of the World is still in focus. And even if inertia is overcome and the Waterfront vote picks up steam, where will it roll? It would seem reasonable to expect a large number of Barbara Streisand Democrats – along the same lines as New York City. These people will tend to vote along racial lines? They are going to feel an irresistible attraction for the HCDO? And what of the traditional demographics of Ward E? Many see Ward E as Jersey City’s Hispanic Ward. It’s hard to imagine that this would remain so after a successful Waterfront voter registration drive. By chipping away at its own Hispanic base, the HCDO will succeed in undermining Glenn Cunningham? And what would the outcome be of an Asiatic ethnic block of Jersey City voters increasing exponentially? ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 2636 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 25, 2004 at 14:03:23 Subject: Re: The Arrow That Can Shoot Down the Cunningham Balloon? Anthony, you have such a firm grip on the obvious. All of this crap you post is getting old, real quickly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Case Closed posted Message 2637 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 25, 2004 at 14:41:31 Subject: Menendez Supports Crazyman Dean : In the first place, let me address the Congressman, and let me do that without equivocation -- you will not get away with this. You've involved yourself in a lot of messes over the years without staining your suit, but not this time. You can't get a a dozen words out of your mouth without uttering the phrase "working people." Don't play the Judas goat by trying to deliver the working people of Jersey City to the slaughter at the hands of that notorious anti-Labor figure, Bret Schundler. It won't work. If you try, you'll be out of power forever. The same goes for anyone that you try to hide behind. : And for Schundler, examine your options. Bob Grant will probably retire soon and Rush Limbaugh has been discredited. You'll do well in talk radio. : It's obvious that the HCDO is looking for a Great White Hope to challenge Glenn Cunningham. But why would Schundler want to become mayor of Jersey City again? Because the Board of Education of Jersey City will soon return to municipal control, that's why. And, as Mr. Schundler, echoing the bank robber Willy Sutton, often says, "that's where the money is." : What will the people of Jersey City see with Schundler controlling the Jersey City Public Schools? You don't need a crystal ball. Examine Schundler's record as mayor. and what's been going on at the Golden Door Charter School, from which that notorious utlra-right wing Schundlerite, Paul Schaeder has just been ousted. The school payroll will get padded with every useless hack willing to hand out flyers for Schundler on election day. A sorry parade of law suits to promote school prayer will be used to draw attention from the fact that the delivery of necessary services is plummeting through mismanagement. The schools will be used as a beach head to advance anti-Labor practices. The best the public schools might expect is benign neglect. At the same time, taxpayer dollars will be diverted to private schools. : Don't forget that the Christian Reich leader Dan Cassidy (aide to Schundler for many years thanks to the taxpayers of Jersey City) is now federal regional education head. What might he and Schundler have in mind? : And one might ask where the money is for Bret Schundler. He doesn't seemed concerned with his own political career. And please don't mention "sincerity." Could the big payday for Schundler be as a fundraiser for extremist religious and anti-Labor groups? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2638 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 25, 2004 at 14:51:46 Subject: Re: The Arrow That Can Shoot Down the Cunningham Balloon? : Anthony, you have such a firm grip on the obvious. All of this crap you post is getting old, real quickly. When it doesn't take a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows, then it's too late. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 2639 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 25, 2004 at 14:58:07 Subject: Re: The Arrow That Can Shoot Down the Cunningham Balloon? Well, I guess your just spitting in the wind. Have fun! ***************** End Of Article ****************** SiddVicious posted Message 2640 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 25, 2004 at 20:28:25 Subject: The Real World If Schundler indeed runs against Cunningham. he won't need the Waterfront voters. He'll do it the way he did it before. In time honored Jersey City fashion he'll forge political alliances with anyone in the City who can bring him votes. And of course he'll buy these votes with patronage. He'll probably be even to buy off enough of Glenn's black support to win comforably. People like Harvey and Rev. Chess will be with Bret. And he'll make many other blacks offers they can't refuse. And ultimately, he'll probably receive 90% of the non-black vote. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Special Ed posted Message 2641 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 26, 2004 at 00:54:49 Subject: Re: The Arrow That Can Shoot Down the Cunningham Balloon? : Well, I guess your just spitting in the wind. : Have fun! You can say what you like, of course, but the Ayala administration is clearly finished. What comes next who knows. But credit where credit is due, and that is Getnj.com He has the courage to let you post your particular idiocy when nobogy else will. Don't you pick on getnj.com This is the ideal forum of free speech. This does not exist outside of getnj.com. Whatever else you may be about, remember that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** to the getnj cheerleader posted Message 2642 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 26, 2004 at 06:33:57 Subject: Re: The Arrow That Can Shoot Down the Cunningham Balloon? man u r a fool. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 2643 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 26, 2004 at 16:02:02 Subject: NAACP DISCRIMINATION SUIT TO BE HEARD ON MONDAY JAN 26 IN FEDERAL COURT IN NEWARK sglazer©urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 2644 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 26, 2004 at 16:14:33 Subject: POLITICAL FOOTBALL BUDGET JEOPARDIZES HOMEOWNERS TAX BILLS AS COUNCIL COUNTINUES TO DEFY MAYOR Urban Times News ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2645 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 26, 2004 at 16:51:04 Subject: Tonite on Hudson County's Talking. Jersey City rezones City block cemetery only with out telling home owners thanks to Bret. County of Hudson gets zip from North Bergen bue shelters, 45 year City lease for JC animal shelter? and the UTN and me, All this and more 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2646 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 26, 2004 at 18:38:21 Subject: Congressman Menendez's Report To The People TV Show Congressman Menendez's cable TV show, Report To The People, airs on Comcast at 6:30PM on Monday. If anybody has the schedule for the other two Cable services, please post it here. So far, I've not been able to get schedules for Comcast's channel 1 and 51. It's tough to view any of the public access shows without knowing the air times. ***************** End Of Article ****************** For Processing posted Message 2647 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 26, 2004 at 18:43:57 Subject: Menendez Should Report to the US Attorney Menendez's Cable Show is pure B*ll Sh*t Nothing but a Menendez propaganda puff piece. Don't even waste your time watching him answer the questions he himself wrote. Of Course Congressmam Menendez NEVER MENTIONS Bobby J and the Corruption Issues which he is part and parcel of . : Congressman Menendez's cable TV show, Report To The People, airs on Comcast at 6:30PM on Monday. : If anybody has the schedule for the other two Cable services, please post it here. : So far, I've not been able to get schedules for Comcast's channel 1 and 51. It's tough to view any of the public access shows without knowing the air times. ***************** End Of Article ****************** What W ho res posted Message 2648 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 26, 2004 at 19:38:13 Subject: JC Council Bought Off with County Payroll Only in Hudson County can Public Officials Wh ore themselfs to such a degree. This is costing the taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars Just to buy the council's votes. This is criminal. Something must be done. Even Gaugham's Daughter Bridget is on the County Pad for over $ 70 Thousand -- THIS IS ABSURD !!! What about the other Towns in Hudson County ? : Urban Times News ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2649 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 27, 2004 at 10:15:19 Subject: NJN Video: Bernard Kenny on the Ugly Political Environment Appearing on the Inside Trenton NJN television show, State Seantor Bernard Kenny candidly describes New Jersey's ugly political environment. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2650 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 27, 2004 at 13:26:48 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of January 26, 2004 Pat comments on the Urban Times News's comments! To access the Online audio, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** primary news posted Message 2651 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 27, 2004 at 14:36:27 Subject: AP: No overturning Doria's defeat No overturning Doria's defeat Spending issue kept alive by appeals ruling Tuesday, January 27, 2004 By Steve Strunsky Associated Press writer NEWARK - A state appellate panel yesterday refused to overturn the results of a Hudson County Democratic primary that ousted 12-term assemblyman and onetime Assembly Speaker Joseph Doria. But the panel, ruling in the Appellate Division of state Superior Court, agreed with the Doria slate's contention that state campaign spending limits do apply to primaries. The panel referred that portion of the case to the state Election Law Enforcement Commission to determine whether illegal spending occurred and if so, what penalties might be imposed, short of overturning the primary's result. The Doria team alleged that the $700,000 spent by the slate of the victor, Glenn D. Cunningham, for the primary exceeded the state spending cap by about $125,000. But the panel ruled the Doria slate failed to show that any excess spending was a determining factor in the election. "There is no reliable evidence that the alleged violations had a significant impact on the election, so there is no need for ELEC to consider any forfeiture claim," Judge Patrick King wrote. Cunningham went on to win his bid for state Senate in the 31st District, as did his running mates for two state Assembly seats, Louis Manzo and Anthony Chiappone. Unless the case is appealed to the state Supreme Court and the panel's decision is reversed, the three will keep their seats. The Doria slate sued in Superior Court in Jersey City after the primary, but Judge Arthur D'Italia dismissed the claim, ruling that spending limits do not apply to primaries. The Doria slate appealed, leading to yesterday's decision. With the win, Cunningham extended his power base beyond Jersey City, where he is mayor. The victory also was a blow to the Hudson County Democratic Organization, and especially to Doria, who was Assembly speaker in 1990 and 1991, and minority leader from 1992 to 2002. Lawyers for Doria, who was seeking a 13th two-year term, and his running mate for state Senate, L. Harvey Smith, did not return calls yesterday. Cassandra Savoy, a lawyer for Assembly candidate Elba Perez-Cinciarelli, declined to comment. Angelo Genova, a lawyer for the Cunningham slate, applauded the ruling. "It's a complete vindication, because what the Doria folks sought to do was undo the election and compel a forfeiture of office," Genova said. "And neither of those things happened." ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2652 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 27, 2004 at 15:03:42 Subject: Selection From Primary Case Ruling The parties are bitter Democrat adversaries in the highly- charged atmosphere of Hudson County party politics. In September 2001 Robert Janiszewski, a Democrat and the Hudson County Executive, resigned his position under a cloud of allegations of government corruption. Janiszewski's resignation led to a rift in the Hudson County Democrat Committee (HCDC) over who should become the interim County Executive. The HCDC named Bernard Hartnett to the position until the next general election, scheduled for November 2002. As the June 2002 primary election approached, the Democrat Party could not unite behind a single candidate. One faction supported Thomas DeGise, while the other faction supported Hartnett. DeGise won the primary election and later the 2002 general election for County Executive. After Hartnett's defeat in the June 2002 primary, Joseph Cardwell and Robert Jackson, whom the judge described as the appellants' principal witnesses in this case, desired to restore control of the Hudson County Democrat Party to the Hartnett faction. To that end, on August 26, 2002 Cardwell registered a new "continuing political committee" named Jersey City First (JCF).4 Meanwhile, in October 2002 Jackson created the Reform Democratic Committee of Jersey City (RDC), also a continuing political committee, although he did not file any registration papers with ELEC until April 2003. Like JCF, Jackson's testimony described RDC as composed of candidates for committee seats who were not aligned with the DeGise camp. Both camps proceeded to prepare for the June 2003 primary election which would determine the party nominations for the Thirty-First District's State Senator and the two State Assembly seats. Aligned on the Hartnett side, and thus with JCF and RDC, were respondents Cunningham, Manzo, and Chiappone. On the other side were appellants Smith, Doria, and Perez-Cinciarelli. Cunningham announced his candidacy on March 5, 2003. He began accepting contributions and making expenditures immediately. The judge found that Cunningham did not, as per N.J.S.A. 19:44A-9a, establish his candidate committee at that time but rather on May 2, 2003. Cunningham's committee was called "Cunningham for Senate." On the same day he established Cunningham for Senate, Cunningham also established "The Cunningham Democratic Team," a "joint candidates committee" under N.J.S.A. 19:44A-3r.5 Thus, during the June 2003 primary election campaign, there existed: (a) two continuing political committees - JCF and RDC - aligned with the Hartnett group; (b) Cunningham's own political committee, Cunningham for Senate, aligned with the Hartnett group; and (c) a joint candidates committee, The Cunningham Democratic Team, aligned with the Hartnett group. On May 27, 2003 appellants sued to enjoin The Cunningham Democratic Team and related organizations from further spending in violation of the Act. As we discuss below, the Act allows a candidate to institute a summary action in the Superior Court to enjoin spending and contribution violations of an opponent prior to an election. See N.J.S.A. 19:44A-22.1. This matter was heard before the Hudson County Chancery Judge, not the Law Division judge who decided the case before us on this appeal. The Chancery judge was "troubled by . . . . the blatant, blatant excessive overspending by the [RDC]." He enjoined further RDC spending. He believed RDC had "overspent considerably in violation of the election law." The judge also asked ELEC to "investigate whether or not there are any violations by the Cunningham Inaugural Committee and the Reform Democratic Committee." ELEC has not acted on the matter, apparently awaiting our decision in this case. In June, Cunningham, Manzo and Chiappone won the primary election. The appellants petitioned for and received a recount, but it did not yield results contrary to the initial count. After the recount, the results were, for Senate: (1) Cunningham (10,715 votes); (2) Smith (8,630); and (3) Vincent Militello, not a party to this case (3,004). For Assembly, the results were: (1) Chiappone (11,154); (2) Manzo (11,134); (3) Doria (10,519); and Perez-Cianciarelli (9,624). On July 25 appellants filed this verified petition contesting the election under N.J.S.A. 19:29-1h. In the complaint they incorporated allegations that The Cunningham Democratic Team, Cunningham for Senate, JCF, RDC, and others, in raising and spending money on behalf of Cunningham, Manzo, and Chiappone had: routinely ignored and violated the filing requirements of [the Act] and have failed to file those reports which would permit ELEC, opposing candidates, or the public to know the names of contributors, the nature and amount of contributions and expenditures, and the other information disclosed by the required forms. In addition, appellants stated these individuals and entities "directed, coordinated, authorized and allowed campaign spending to occur in violation of the law," and that "such spending was in excess of $50,000." Appellants asserted that the respondents' "knowing, intentional, negligent, or grossly negligent overspending, failure to report, violation of the laws and court orders, had a significant impact on the election and voters which was sufficient to change the results and outcome of the election." After the filing of the election contest petition, respondents moved to dismiss the petition. They argued, among other things, that ELEC had exclusive jurisdiction of the complaint, that appellants must exhaust administrative remedies, and that the complaint failed to state a claim under R. 4:6- 2(e). On August 14, 2003 the Law Division judge denied the motions. He refused to transfer the case to ELEC. In early September 2003 the respondents again moved to dismiss the charges under the Act, terming their motion an "involuntary dismissal" or, in the alternative, "summary judgment." On September 11, 2003, after hearing testimony, the trial judge dismissed the action. He ruled (1) relevant provisions of the Act do not apply to primary elections; and (2) even if such provisions did apply and there were violations, appellants did not establish a "prima facie case" of any violation of the Act sufficient to void the election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lovely Rita posted Message 2653 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 27, 2004 at 23:08:42 Subject: Re: 16 Months and Counting : Only in Hudson County can Public Officials Wh ore themselfs to such a degree. : This is costing the taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars Just to buy the council's votes. This is criminal. Something must be done. : Even Gaugham's Daughter Bridget is on the County Pad for over $ 70 Thousand -- : THIS IS ABSURD !!! What about the other Towns in Hudson County ? : : Urban Times News Tick, tick, tick......... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thank You Senator Cunningham posted Message 2654 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 27, 2004 at 23:47:34 Subject: SUIT TO REMOVE BILL GAUGHAN fROM POLITICSNJ.COM WEBSITE Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham says that Councilman Bill Gaughan's job as Chief of Staff to the Hudson County Executive is a conflict of interest and is asking a Superior Court Judge to remove Gaughan from office. A lawsuit filed by Cunningham today is set to be heard by Judge Maurice Gallipolli in Hudson County on March 19. The Cunningham forces say that Gaughan's post as a top aide to County Executive Thomas DeGise -- a political rival -- puts him "in an irreconcilable conflict of interest with his job as Ward D Councilman. The conflict arises from the fact that he cannot hold both positions at the same time because there are issues where the County and the City could potentially be adverse to each other." (01/27/04) GET RID OF THIS PUBLIC LEACH BILL GAUGHAN - HE IS MAKING $ 95 K FROM THE COUNTY AND EVEN HAS HIS DAUGHTER ON THE PAYROLL FOR $ 70 K. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You've got to be kidding! posted Message 2655 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 08:29:30 Subject: Ward D has a councilman? I never knew Ward D had a councilman. I know there's some rummy faced little guy who runs around to all the senior housing in the Heights (3) feeding them dirty water dogs & ice cream (real good for their hearts & cholesterol) & offers them special discounts on the funerals of their dreams. But councilman? Surely you jest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Special Ed posted Message 2656 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 10:30:03 Subject: Bill for HCDO services rendered COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM HUDSON COUNTY Brennan $65,000.00 Wm. Gaughan $95,000.00 B. Gaughan $70,000.00 Maldonado $88,000.00 Vega $93,000.00 Smiff $81,000.00 TOTAL $492,000.00 ANNUAL THINK ABOUT IT WHEN YOU GET YOUR TAX INCREASES FROM THE CITY AND FROM THE COUNTY. COUNTY TAX INCREASE THIS YEAR ABOUT $30M. CITY $10-$20MILLION AND THESE GUYS ARE GETTING PAID AS ABOVE TO DO THIS TO US. TRULY FINE CITIZENS. TWO OF THEM EVEN WANT TO RUN FOR MAYOR. WHEN PIGS FLY, MARIANO. WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER, JUNIOR. NOT EVER, ENTENDES? ***************** End Of Article ****************** ????? posted Message 2657 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 10:38:24 Subject: Re: Bill for HCDO services rendered What about Violia Richardson? SHE IS ALSO ON COUNTY PAYROLL! ***************** End Of Article ****************** FREE INSURANCE posted Message 2658 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 10:54:29 Subject: FREE CARS , FREE GAS ,FREE CELL PHONE Don't forget all the extra free bees these PUBLIC LEACHES take from Hudson County. Free County Cars , Free Gas, Free Insurance, Free Cell Phones , Free Beepers - EXPENSE ACCCOUNTS - Free Travel & Hotel to Bogus Association Of Counties Conventions. WHAT BLOOD S U C KERS !!!!!!!! : COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM HUDSON COUNTY : Brennan $65,000.00 : Wm. Gaughan $95,000.00 : B. Gaughan $70,000.00 : Maldonado $88,000.00 : Vega $93,000.00 : Smiff $81,000.00 : TOTAL $492,000.00 ANNUAL : THINK ABOUT IT WHEN YOU GET YOUR TAX INCREASES FROM THE CITY AND FROM THE COUNTY. COUNTY TAX INCREASE THIS YEAR ABOUT $30M. CITY $10-$20MILLION AND THESE GUYS ARE GETTING PAID AS ABOVE TO DO THIS TO US. TRULY FINE CITIZENS. TWO OF THEM EVEN WANT TO RUN FOR MAYOR. WHEN PIGS FLY, MARIANO. WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER, JUNIOR. NOT EVER, ENTENDES? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward D for DRUNK posted Message 2659 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 10:57:27 Subject: Red Faced Rum DUMB He is a twisted alcoholic who really lives in Wall Township. : I never knew Ward D had a councilman. : I know there's some rummy faced little guy who runs around to all the senior housing in the Heights (3) feeding them dirty water dogs & ice cream (real good for their hearts & cholesterol) & offers them special discounts on the funerals of their dreams. But councilman? Surely you jest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** As is posted Message 2660 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 11:25:27 Subject: Jerry Healy It's only fair to list their salaries also. On the other hand, they do not seem to be under anyone's thumb to the extent of the others. They have voted for, against & abstained. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2661 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 11:36:08 Subject: Video: Glenn Cunningham Sworn In As State Senator To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Special Ed posted Message 2662 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 11:54:37 Subject: Re: Jerry Healy-Not on HCDO PAD : It's only fair to list their salaries also. : On the other hand, they do not seem to be under anyone's thumb to the extent of the others. They have voted for, against & abstained. Judge Healey is an attorney for Hudson County Ethics Board. He has a contract that lets him bill annually up to $32,000 at $125 an hour. Speaking of oxymorons, how about Hudson County Ethics Board.? That is like the screen door in our submarine. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DUNCE CAP posted Message 2663 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 13:15:58 Subject: GAUGHAN WEARS MANY HATS Something must be done about this Creep Councilman Gaughan take a look : http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/index.ssf?/base/news-2/107528831423310.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** I stand corrected posted Message 2664 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 13:32:04 Subject: Thank you Thank you for correcting my error. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Larry the gimp posted Message 2665 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 13:54:37 Subject: Re: SUIT TO REMOVE BILL GAUGHAN Does this guy live here anymore? He used to be always walking up and down the avenue shaking hands and saying hello but i've not run into him for I don't knwo how long. Degise, I've never seen him ever nowheres except at city hall. I even knows a guy who was supposed to have him as a teacher or a counselor on paper anyway in high school but never saw the guy in the building even. It always being a substitute on the job. : fROM POLITICSNJ.COM WEBSITE : Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham says that Councilman Bill Gaughan's job as Chief of Staff to the Hudson County Executive is a conflict of interest and is asking a Superior Court Judge to remove Gaughan from office. A lawsuit filed by Cunningham today is set to be heard by Judge Maurice Gallipolli in Hudson County on March 19. The Cunningham forces say that Gaughan's post as a top aide to County Executive Thomas DeGise -- a political rival -- puts him "in an irreconcilable conflict of interest with his job as Ward D Councilman. The conflict arises from the fact that he cannot hold both positions at the same time because there are issues where the County and the City could potentially be adverse to each other." (01/27/04) : GET RID OF THIS PUBLIC LEACH BILL GAUGHAN - HE IS MAKING $ 95 K FROM THE COUNTY AND EVEN HAS HIS DAUGHTER ON THE PAYROLL FOR $ 70 K. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MORE LIKE........... LARRY THE DUMB, DUMB! posted Message 2666 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 15:10:22 Subject: Re: SUIT TO REMOVE BILL GAUGHAN READ YOUR POST...DID YOU MAKE IT PAST 5TH GRADE? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Leprechuan Watcher posted Message 2667 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 15:58:15 Subject: Leprechuan you just might get a chance at this. With the definite lack of leadership in Ward D, you just might have a shot at this. Go for it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2668 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 16:43:21 Subject: Selection From Cunningham's Case Against Gaughan 4. The City Council of the City of Jersey City is a public body consisting of nine elected members (hereinafter "Councilman or Councilwoman") pursuant to N.J.S.A. 40:69A:3 1, et. sue. 5. The defendant, William Gaughan, has held the elected office of Councilman of the Municipal Council of the City of Jersey City for three consecutive terms (approximately the last ten years). He was most recently re-elected to this office in July of 2001. 6. The Municipal Council of the City of Jersey City is empowered and otherwise required by law to approve and/or regulate financial matters for the City of Jersey City and otherwise act as the legislative body for the City of Jersey City. [Cf. N.J.S.A, 40:69A-31 to 40:69A-48]. 7. The office of the County Executive for the County of Hudson is an elected office that derives its statutory basis from N.J.S.A. 40:20-1, et. s... (N.J.S.A. Section 40, Chapters 20- 37). 8. The Board of County Freeholders for Hudson County has established and otherwise legislatively adopted and approved, as more fully set forth in the Hudson County Administrative Code, the office of the Chief of Staff to the County Executive within the office of the County Executive. (Section 3.7 of the Hudson County Administrative Code, attached as Exhibit A). 9. Pursuant to Section 3.7 of the Hudson County Administrative Code, the office of the Chief of Staff has numerous duties at the County level, including, but not limited to, being responsible for all County relations between the County Boards and Commissions and the various municipalities that exist within the County; interviewing and recommending County Employees to the County Executive, including, but not limited to, Directors and Division Chiefs (to the various County Boards and Commissions that do business with the municipalities within the County); reviewing appointments and making recommendations with respect to County Boards and authorities; and performing such other duties as the County Executive, in his discretion, shall deem advisable. (Exhibit A) 10. I am personally aware that the office of Chief of Staff to the Hudson County Executive is a tremendously powerful position at the County level. For all intents and purposes, the office of the Chief of Staff to the County Executive often acts in a de facto capacity to discharge many of the duties and obligations otherwise statutorily granted to the County Executive. 11. In November of 2002, the defendant, William Gaughan, was appointed to and accepted the office of Chief of Staff to the Hudson County Executive, which job description is set forth above. 12. The defendant, William Gaughan, did not resign nor relinquish his office of Councilman of the Municipal Council of Jersey City when he accepted the office of Chief of Staff to the County Executive to the County of Hudson. 13. It is inherently incompatible for one person to hold both the office of Councilman of the Municipal Council of Jersey City and the office of Chief of Staff to the County Executive to the County of Hudson. 14. There are numerous situations where there are inherent conflicts between the interests of the City of Jersey City and the County of Hudson. There are often competing interests between various municipal and County departments or commissions. By way of example, there are often clashes between County and municipal departments involving public improvements, parks and recreation, and roads and maintenance. Often the County seeks money from the municipality or the municipality seeks money from the County. It may be in the County's interest to have a road maintained by the municipality, but in the municipality's interest to have the roadway turned over to the County. The Chief of Staff for the County Executive, charged with representing the interests of the County, should not be the same person who has legislative authority at the municipal level. 15. Issues decided before the Municipal Council of Jersey City may have direct negative impact upon the County of Hudson. For example, decisions of whether or not to grant tax abatements are regularly decided before the Municipal Council. It may be in the interest of the City of Jersey City to grant tax abatements for a number of reasons. Tax abatements granted by the municipality, by their very nature, result in lost revenue to the County. There is an inherent conflict for a person who holds the office of Chief of Staff to the County Executive to be making decisions at the Municipal Council level regarding monies the County may or may not receive as a result of such decision. 16, This very conflict has already arisen. Attached as Exhibit B find videotape of a recent Jersey City Council meeting in which the issue of an extension of a tax abatement is being discussed. The defendant, William Gaughan, is seen and heard directing the conversation. There is clearly concern as to which law should be applied in the case of an application for an abatement extension. Under current abatement law, the County is entitled to 5% of the revenue it otherwise would have lost. Under the older law, they would not have received such monies. With any new abatement application the County would be entitled to the 5% under the new law. In the videotape, the Council is seen debating an abatement extension, instead of a new application. The issue was whether or not the County would be entitled to its 5% with an extension of an old abatement, as opposed to a new abatement application. Towards the end of the videotaped recording, the defendant publicly admits "I wear a couple of hats" and "I have some concerns" because under the new law the County would be entitled to approximately $400,000.00 under this abatement, but if the new law were not applied, "the County could end up with zero and I have some concerns with that". It is clear from the tone and inflection of the defendant's voice, as well as his actual words, that he was expressing his concern as a County representative. (Exhibit B - Videotape-approximately 5 minutes in duration). 17. The defendant clearly reveals why he should not be holding both positions. He obviously has concerns and fiduciary responsibilities to the County as a result of holding the office of Chief of Staff. He has conflicting obligations to the City of Jersey City holding the office of Councilman. In this one instance alone, he was expressing concern over "the County ending up with zero". The clash and conflict is clear. While "the County ending up with zero" may have been the defendant's concern on that day, he, arguably, should have been concerned with the City having not to pay the County that $400,000.00 and otherwise retaining such funds for City purposes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2669 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 16:45:22 Subject: More From Cunningham's Case Against Gaughan 18. Such inherent conflicts of interest are not limited to tax abatement issues. By way of further example, the City of Jersey City participates with the Hudson County Incinerator Authority and the Hudson County Improvement Authority. Such participation generates income to the County of Hudson from the City of Jersey City. For instance, the City of Jersey could save approximately $1,000,000.00 per year if it dealt directly with garbage disposal providers, instead of participating through joint County/municipal departments. To a certain extent, the City of Jersey City subsidizes County trash disposal, as the City is the largest municipality in the County representing 45% of the entire County. It would be in the City's interest to directly dispose of its own trash, but this would result in lost revenues to the County and more expense for the County in handling trash disposal for its other, smaller municipalities. The Jersey City Municipal Council would have to vote and approve any withdrawal from the County trash disposal programs. Decisions relating to the nature and extent of the City's involvement, including financial decisions involving monies that flow from the municipal to County level, should not be decided by one person who holds an office at the municipal level and an office at the County level. 19. The two positions are patently incompatible without further factual consideration. However, if the Court is to consider the unique facts of this case, it will be further demonstrated. As noted above, the office of Chief of Staff to the County Executive is an extremely powerful County position. It is commonly known in Hudson County that its Chief of Staff has significant powers, often acting in a de facto capacity on behalf of the County Executive. In this specific case, it is well known and generally accepted that if William Gaughan, in his capacity as Chief of Staff to the Hudson County Executive, wants a person hired or fired, that person will be hired or fired. 20. There are presently at least three councilmen that have significant County level jobs. It is known that at least one other councilperson has close family members who have County level jobs. The President of the Council was just recommended by the defendant for a high level County position. For all such councilmen, the continuation of such jobs can be greatly influenced, either positively or negatively, by the office of the Chief of Staff. 21. As part of his statutory/regulatory duties, the Chief of Staff is required to interview and recommend appointees to the County Executive. (Exhibit A Section 3.7.1(c)). In November of 2003, he was required to make recommendations to the County Executive for appointments to various positions at the County departments and commissions. This included making job recommendations for fellow members of the Council. 22. Councilman Mariano Vega holds a job as the Director of Hudson County Public Resources Department. The salary for that job is approximately $90,000.00. 23. Councilman Junior Maldonado has a job at the Hudson County Improvement Authority. That job has a salary of approximately $80,000.00 per year. 24. Councilman Peter Brennan has a $65,000.00 job in the Hudson County Maintenance Department. 25. Councilwoman Donnelly's daughter-in-law is employed by Hudson County. 26. In January of 2004, the defendant just recommended Council President Smith to the job as Hudson County Under-Sheriff. Council President Smith has no known law enforcement experience. 27. As the result of the position of power Councilman Gaughan now holds as Chief of Staff to the Hudson County Executive, he has created additional incompatibility, as there is now the appearance that the defendant may be able to exercise influence over fellow councilmen/councilwomen, as he is their actual or de facto, "boss" at their principal places of employment. 28. Such a position of power within the City Council is harmful to the citizens of Jersey City. Citizens should expect that their elected representatives can freely debate and vote upon issues, without the fear of influence or retribution from another councilmember. One councilmember should not be permitted to promote his own political or personal agenda as a result of leis holding a superior office. 29. Unless the Court corrects the incompatible situation highlighted above, the Court will never know whether or not the votes of the councilmen are being made freely and openly or as the result of such influence. 30. Such issues and questions already have arisen and exist. By way of example, reference is made to Ordinance No. 03-123. This was a refunding bond ordinance that would have authorized a refunding and reorganization of the City's debt. It was designed to take advantage of the historically low interest rates and permit refinancing of some $335 million of past debt. It would have saved the City some $20,000,000.00 per year and likely prevented the City from having to raise taxes to otherwise satisfy financial shortfalls. The first reading of the Ordinance was on September 8, 2003. The defendant was absent from that reading, along with Councilman Vega, and the Ordinance was unanimously approved 7-0. It was then set for a final reading for final approval. 31. The second reading of the Ordinance occurred on December 3, 2003. The defendant was present. The Ordinance was defeated 3-6. The defendant voted against the Ordinance. The five other councilmen/councilwonren who voted to defeat this measure were all those named herein who had County jobs or ties to County jobs. (Brennan, Donnelly, Maldonado, Vega and Smith all voted "Nay", Exhibit C.) 32. The City of Jersey City faces irreparable harm unless this situation is immediately addressed and corrected. There are major issues that face the Jersey City Municipal Council on a regular basis that have tremendous effect on the citizens of the municipality. The aforementioned Ordinance No. 03-123 is a prime example. The City would have saved $20 million this year had the Ordinance passed. As a result of the Ordinance not passing, the City has essentially lost the benefit of $10 million of debt savings and is faced with financial crisis that may require a cut-back of City services and/or a tax increase. There is no way to measure the harm that may occur to individual citizens if the City is forced to reduce services. 33. The City will have one final chance to restructure its debt prior to the time upcoming bonds are due in June of 2004. Assuming an Ordinance can be passed permitting debt restructuring with favorable interest rates, then the City will need at least 30 days to market the plan to various financial vendors. The Ordinance itself requires two separate readings at two meetings. If the debt restructuring is not passed, the City's credit rating will suffer, likely being reduced to "junk bond" status. This would cause irreparable harm on the City for years into the future. 34. The citizens of the City of Jersey City deserve a municipal council that functions freely, where one member cannot potentially or actually influence the others due to his superior office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2670 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 16:54:00 Subject: Bond Ordinance Defeated : 18. Such inherent conflicts of interest are not limited to tax abatement issues. By way : of further example, the City of Jersey City participates with the Hudson County Incinerator : Authority and the Hudson County Improvement Authority. Such participation generates income : to the County of Hudson from the City of Jersey City. For instance, the City of Jersey could : save approximately $1,000,000.00 per year if it dealt directly with garbage disposal providers, : instead of participating through joint County/municipal departments. To a certain extent, the : City of Jersey City subsidizes County trash disposal, as the City is the largest municipality in the : County representing 45% of the entire County. It would be in the City's interest to directly : dispose of its own trash, but this would result in lost revenues to the County and more expense : for the County in handling trash disposal for its other, smaller municipalities. The Jersey City : Municipal Council would have to vote and approve any withdrawal from the County trash : disposal programs. Decisions relating to the nature and extent of the City's involvement, : including financial decisions involving monies that flow from the municipal to County level, : should not be decided by one person who holds an office at the municipal level and an office at : the County level. : 19. The two positions are patently incompatible without further factual consideration. : However, if the Court is to consider the unique facts of this case, it will be further demonstrated. : As noted above, the office of Chief of Staff to the County Executive is an extremely powerful : County position. It is commonly known in Hudson County that its Chief of Staff has significant : powers, often acting in a de facto capacity on behalf of the County Executive. In this specific : case, it is well known and generally accepted that if William Gaughan, in his capacity as Chief of : Staff to the Hudson County Executive, wants a person hired or fired, that person will be hired or : fired. : 20. There are presently at least three councilmen that have significant County level : jobs. It is known that at least one other councilperson has close family members who have : County level jobs. The President of the Council was just recommended by the defendant for a : high level County position. For all such councilmen, the continuation of such jobs can be greatly : influenced, either positively or negatively, by the office of the Chief of Staff. : 21. As part of his statutory/regulatory duties, the Chief of Staff is required to : interview and recommend appointees to the County Executive. (Exhibit A Section 3.7.1(c)). In : November of 2003, he was required to make recommendations to the County Executive for : appointments to various positions at the County departments and commissions. This included : making job recommendations for fellow members of the Council. : 22. Councilman Mariano Vega holds a job as the Director of Hudson County Public : Resources Department. The salary for that job is approximately $90,000.00. : 23. Councilman Junior Maldonado has a job at the Hudson County Improvement : Authority. That job has a salary of approximately $80,000.00 per year. : 24. Councilman Peter Brennan has a $65,000.00 job in the Hudson County : Maintenance Department. : 25. Councilwoman Donnelly's daughter-in-law is employed by Hudson County. : 26. In January of 2004, the defendant just recommended Council President Smith to : the job as Hudson County Under-Sheriff. Council President Smith has no known law : enforcement experience. : 27. As the result of the position of power Councilman Gaughan now holds as Chief of : Staff to the Hudson County Executive, he has created additional incompatibility, as there is now : the appearance that the defendant may be able to exercise influence over fellow : councilmen/councilwomen, as he is their actual or de facto, "boss" at their principal places of : employment. : 28. Such a position of power within the City Council is harmful to the citizens of : Jersey City. Citizens should expect that their elected representatives can freely debate and vote : upon issues, without the fear of influence or retribution from another councilmember. One : councilmember should not be permitted to promote his own political or personal agenda as a : result of leis holding a superior office. : 29. Unless the Court corrects the incompatible situation highlighted above, the Court : will never know whether or not the votes of the councilmen are being made freely and openly or : as the result of such influence. : 30. Such issues and questions already have arisen and exist. By way of example, : reference is made to Ordinance No. 03-123. This was a refunding bond ordinance that would : have authorized a refunding and reorganization of the City's debt. It was designed to take : advantage of the historically low interest rates and permit refinancing of some $335 million of : past debt. It would have saved the City some $20,000,000.00 per year and likely prevented the : City from having to raise taxes to otherwise satisfy financial shortfalls. The first reading of the : Ordinance was on September 8, 2003. The defendant was absent from that reading, along with : Councilman Vega, and the Ordinance was unanimously approved 7-0. It was then set for a final : reading for final approval. : 31. The second reading of the Ordinance occurred on December 3, 2003. The : defendant was present. The Ordinance was defeated 3-6. The defendant voted against the : Ordinance. The five other councilmen/councilwonren who voted to defeat this measure were all : those named herein who had County jobs or ties to County jobs. (Brennan, Donnelly, : Maldonado, Vega and Smith all voted "Nay", Exhibit C.) : 32. The City of Jersey City faces irreparable harm unless this situation is immediately : addressed and corrected. There are major issues that face the Jersey City Municipal Council on a : regular basis that have tremendous effect on the citizens of the municipality. The : aforementioned Ordinance No. 03-123 is a prime example. The City would have saved : $20 million this year had the Ordinance passed. As a result of the Ordinance not passing, the : City has essentially lost the benefit of $10 million of debt savings and is faced with financial : crisis that may require a cut-back of City services and/or a tax increase. There is no way to : measure the harm that may occur to individual citizens if the City is forced to reduce services. : 33. The City will have one final chance to restructure its debt prior to the time : upcoming bonds are due in June of 2004. Assuming an Ordinance can be passed permitting debt : restructuring with favorable interest rates, then the City will need at least 30 days to market the : plan to various financial vendors. The Ordinance itself requires two separate readings at two : meetings. If the debt restructuring is not passed, the City's credit rating will suffer, likely being : reduced to "junk bond" status. This would cause irreparable harm on the City for years into the : future. : 34. The citizens of the City of Jersey City deserve a municipal council that functions : freely, where one member cannot potentially or actually influence the others due to his superior : office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Special Ed posted Message 2671 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 17:03:58 Subject: Re: Thank you--You bet : Thank you for correcting my error. Glad to ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good Bye Fat Joe posted Message 2672 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 21:11:01 Subject: Doria Calls It QUITS !!!! here is the link http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1075272901266690.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inquiring mind posted Message 2673 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 28, 2004 at 21:22:35 Subject: What lawyer ? What lawyer or firm is arguing the case for Cunningham ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2674 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 29, 2004 at 04:44:43 Subject: Re: What lawyer ? : What lawyer or firm is arguing the case for Cunningham ? Cunningham's lawyer is Leonard A. Weitzman of the firm of Weiss, Weitzman, Tarshis and Weiss located in Bedminster, NJ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jack posted Message 2675 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 29, 2004 at 12:57:06 Subject: Ron Manzo for Mayor of Bayonne Ron Manzo may be challenging Joe Doria for Mayor of Bayonne. Ron is said to be using a trust fund left to him by his late father (just like his brother Lou) to finance the campaign. Joe Doria may be out another job and will then have to resort to being a Dom Deluise impersonator. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Reaper posted Message 2676 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 29, 2004 at 14:29:23 Subject: 15 Months to Go Tick, tick, tick............ ***************** End Of Article ****************** YOU ARE WHAT YOU HANG WITH! posted Message 2677 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 29, 2004 at 14:42:40 Subject: TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF GLENN CUNNINGHAM "In the modern world of business, it is useless to be a creative original thinker unless you can also sell what you create. Management cannot be expected to recognize a good idea unless it is presented to them by a good salesman." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Manion, New Jersey Senate Democrats posted Message 2678 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 29, 2004 at 16:32:28 Subject: CUNNINGHAM TAPPED AS VICE CHAIR OF TWO KEY SENATE PANELS Visit us on the World Wide Web at: www.njsendems.com FOR RELEASE: Immediate CONTACT: Jim Manion Jan. 29, 2004 Tel: (609) 292-5215 CUNNINGHAM TAPPED AS VICE CHAIR OF TWO KEY SENATE PANELS TRENTON - Newly-sworn-in State Senator Glenn D. Cunningham has been appointed vice chairman of both the Senate Economic Growth Committee and the Senate Labor Committee by Senate President Richard J. Codey. In addition, Senate President Codey selected Senator Cunningham, D-31st District, to be a member of the important Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee which is responsible for scrutinizing the entire State spending plan every year. "I have a lot of respect for the leadership ability of Senator Cunningham and I am confident that he will be a tremendous asset to the Senate committee process," Senator Codey said. "As Mayor of Jersey City and as a representative of Hudson County, Senator Cunningham will find himself in the thick of issues critically important to his constituents, particularly in the areas of budgetary matters, economic growth and labor relations." As a committee vice chair, Senator Cunningham would be responsible for conducting committee meetings in the absence of Senator Raymond Lesniak, Chairman of the Senate Economic Growth Committee, or Senator Stephen M. Sweeney, Chairman of the Senate Labor Committee. "My goal as a State Senator is to go to Trenton and to make sure the 31st District gets its fair share of funding for important projects and economic incentives for long-term growth," Senator Cunningham said. "I am pleased with my appointments by Senator Codey and I look forward to working closely with Senators Sweeney, Lesniak and (Wayne R.) Bryant, (chairman of the Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee)." Senator Cunningham participated in his first Senate committee meeting on Monday, January 26th, when the Senate Labor Committee convened and approved legislation to expand the type of construction proposals that can be covered by project labor agreements. The Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee and the Senate Economic Growth Committee are not scheduled to meet until Feb. 5. Senator Cunningham was sworn in to a four-year term in the Senate on Jan. 13th. # ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 2679 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 29, 2004 at 21:24:02 Subject: Re: Ron Manzo for Mayor of Bayonne : Ron Manzo may be challenging Joe Doria for Mayor of Bayonne. Ron is said to be using a trust fund left to him by his late father (just like his brother Lou) to finance the campaign. Joe Doria may be out another job and will then have to resort to being a Dom Deluise impersonator. Did it take you a long time to come up with the Dom Deluise comment? Ron Manzo will never and could never fit into the shoes of Joe Doria not because of his size but because of the lack of talent. Anyhow didn't he close down his business.... ***************** End Of Article ****************** jona posted Message 2680 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 29, 2004 at 21:27:19 Subject: Re: Selection From Cunningham's Case Against Gaughan : 4. The City Council of the City of Jersey City is a public body consisting of nine : elected members (hereinafter "Councilman or Councilwoman") pursuant to N.J.S.A. 40:69A:3 1, : et. sue. : 5. The defendant, William Gaughan, has held the elected office of Councilman of : the Municipal Council of the City of Jersey City for three consecutive terms (approximately the : last ten years). He was most recently re-elected to this office in July of 2001. : 6. The Municipal Council of the City of Jersey City is empowered and otherwise : required by law to approve and/or regulate financial matters for the City of Jersey City and : otherwise act as the legislative body for the City of Jersey City. [Cf. N.J.S.A, 40:69A-31 to : 40:69A-48]. : 7. The office of the County Executive for the County of Hudson is an elected office : that derives its statutory basis from N.J.S.A. 40:20-1, et. s... (N.J.S.A. Section 40, Chapters 20- : 37). : 8. The Board of County Freeholders for Hudson County has established and : otherwise legislatively adopted and approved, as more fully set forth in the Hudson County : Administrative Code, the office of the Chief of Staff to the County Executive within the office of : the County Executive. (Section 3.7 of the Hudson County Administrative Code, attached as : Exhibit A). : 9. Pursuant to Section 3.7 of the Hudson County Administrative Code, the office of : the Chief of Staff has numerous duties at the County level, including, but not limited to, being : responsible for all County relations between the County Boards and Commissions and the : various municipalities that exist within the County; interviewing and recommending County : Employees to the County Executive, including, but not limited to, Directors and Division Chiefs : (to the various County Boards and Commissions that do business with the municipalities within : the County); reviewing appointments and making recommendations with respect to County : Boards and authorities; and performing such other duties as the County Executive, in his : discretion, shall deem advisable. (Exhibit A) : 10. I am personally aware that the office of Chief of Staff to the Hudson County : Executive is a tremendously powerful position at the County level. For all intents and purposes, : the office of the Chief of Staff to the County Executive often acts in a de facto capacity to : discharge many of the duties and obligations otherwise statutorily granted to the County : Executive. : 11. In November of 2002, the defendant, William Gaughan, was appointed to and : accepted the office of Chief of Staff to the Hudson County Executive, which job description is : set forth above. : 12. The defendant, William Gaughan, did not resign nor relinquish his office of : Councilman of the Municipal Council of Jersey City when he accepted the office of Chief of : Staff to the County Executive to the County of Hudson. : 13. It is inherently incompatible for one person to hold both the office of Councilman : of the Municipal Council of Jersey City and the office of Chief of Staff to the County Executive : to the County of Hudson. : 14. There are numerous situations where there are inherent conflicts between the : interests of the City of Jersey City and the County of Hudson. There are often competing : interests between various municipal and County departments or commissions. By way of : example, there are often clashes between County and municipal departments involving public : improvements, parks and recreation, and roads and maintenance. Often the County seeks money : from the municipality or the municipality seeks money from the County. It may be in the : County's interest to have a road maintained by the municipality, but in the municipality's interest : to have the roadway turned over to the County. The Chief of Staff for the County Executive, : charged with representing the interests of the County, should not be the same person who has : legislative authority at the municipal level. : 15. Issues decided before the Municipal Council of Jersey City may have direct : negative impact upon the County of Hudson. For example, decisions of whether or not to grant : tax abatements are regularly decided before the Municipal Council. It may be in the interest of : the City of Jersey City to grant tax abatements for a number of reasons. Tax abatements granted : by the municipality, by their very nature, result in lost revenue to the County. There is an : inherent conflict for a person who holds the office of Chief of Staff to the County Executive to : be making decisions at the Municipal Council level regarding monies the County may or may : not receive as a result of such decision. : 16, This very conflict has already arisen. Attached as Exhibit B find videotape of a : recent Jersey City Council meeting in which the issue of an extension of a tax abatement is being : discussed. The defendant, William Gaughan, is seen and heard directing the conversation. : There is clearly concern as to which law should be applied in the case of an application for an : abatement extension. Under current abatement law, the County is entitled to 5% of the revenue : it otherwise would have lost. Under the older law, they would not have received such monies. : With any new abatement application the County would be entitled to the 5% under the new law. : In the videotape, the Council is seen debating an abatement extension, instead of a new : application. The issue was whether or not the County would be entitled to its 5% with an : extension of an old abatement, as opposed to a new abatement application. Towards the end of : the videotaped recording, the defendant publicly admits "I wear a couple of hats" and "I have : some concerns" because under the new law the County would be entitled to approximately : $400,000.00 under this abatement, but if the new law were not applied, "the County could end up : with zero and I have some concerns with that". It is clear from the tone and inflection of the : defendant's voice, as well as his actual words, that he was expressing his concern as a County : representative. (Exhibit B - Videotape-approximately 5 minutes in duration). : 17. The defendant clearly reveals why he should not be holding both positions. He : obviously has concerns and fiduciary responsibilities to the County as a result of holding the : office of Chief of Staff. He has conflicting obligations to the City of Jersey City holding the : office of Councilman. In this one instance alone, he was expressing concern over "the County : ending up with zero". The clash and conflict is clear. While "the County ending up with zero" : may have been the defendant's concern on that day, he, arguably, should have been concerned : with the City having not to pay the County that $400,000.00 and otherwise retaining such funds : for City purposes. Rather then tearing Councilman Gaughan apart along with the rest of the council...isn't he supposed to be holding his promise to the people of the 31st and work for us....I hope he takes this to the highest court of appeals because this will show the true colors of the man that he really is....time to take off the cape Mayor Man....the cartoon is almost over... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sherlock Holmes posted Message 2681 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 29, 2004 at 22:06:02 Subject: Menendez & Dean - Here's Why Dean is the candidate George Bush WANTS to run against. Menendez WILL DO ANYTHING to please the REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. Thats why Menendez and his cronies endorsed Dean the Maniac. Bobby J knows why Menendez is Desperate to please the Republicans. WHY IS MENENDEZ SO SILENT ? ? ? Elementary My Dear Watson..... ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2682 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 30, 2004 at 05:54:15 Subject: Video: Senator Nia Gill Speaks In Jersey City State Senator Nia Gill spoke in Jersey City at the oath of office ceremony for Glenn Gunningham, Anthony Chiappone, and Lou Manzo. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Toolbag posted Message 2683 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 30, 2004 at 11:39:27 Subject: Re: Ron Manzo for Mayor of Bayonne Manzo is an O'Dea pawn......Useless ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2684 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 30, 2004 at 19:30:03 Subject: The Link is working now. The Link is working now. : State Senator Nia Gill spoke in Jersey City at the oath of office ceremony for Glenn Gunningham, Anthony Chiappone, and Lou Manzo. : To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glenn's monkey boy Ayala posted Message 2685 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 30, 2004 at 20:54:32 Subject: Glenn is a real bonehead dufus At this point after all the work to get Glenn into office including State Senator one would have to ask the question "Can this idiot tie his own shoes let alone run a city and represent Hudson County in Trenton?" The answer is no so in an effort to get an honest representation we have elected an idiot. The problem is this idiot has a friend who make the idiot look bright which is no small feat. Ayala wonder boy could make a house plant seem like Einstein. How do we escape from corruption and get smart people into office? Glenn your are honest but stupid. Ayala you are worthless since you are directing an idiot to his end. Glenn wake up listen to someone else that has half a brain. Maybe the corrupt HCDO is the answer at least they seem to have half a brain. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Monkey Boy Ayala posted Message 2686 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 30, 2004 at 20:57:22 Subject: Refinance scandal Watch the Refinance deal there are many angles for payoffs to the consultants. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Monkey Boy Ayala posted Message 2687 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 30, 2004 at 20:59:41 Subject: RECALL GLENN THROW HIM OUT OF OFFICE We need to recall Glenn throwing him and the Noah's Ark collection of idiots he has brought with him Monkey Boy Ayala will be the first to go JOIN the RECALL OF GLENN ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO posted Message 2688 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 30, 2004 at 21:03:34 Subject: HELP FUND THE RECALL OF GLENN Glenn needs to go join the movement to throw him out of office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** David P. Rebovich, Ph.D posted Message 2689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 30, 2004 at 21:43:29 Subject: BOB MENENDEZ: LEADER FOR A NEW DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY The Democratic Party's nine presidential candidates have been getting their fair share of coverage these days, for criticizing Pres. George W. Bush, attacking each other, and in a few cases simply for having the chutzpah to run. At first the spirited repartee between the candidates made good theater, but soon party regulars began to worry. Are the Democrats' criticisms of the President too mean-spirited and will they cause a backlash? Are their attacks of each other so harsh that the eventual nominee will be so bloodied that he will have trouble competing against an even unpopular incumbent? And, will that nominee's policy positions be so jumbled after trying to placate so many different groups in a multi-candidate primary that they won't appeal much to the average voter? These are concerns that Democrats should have about their party's very crowded and sometimes brutal presidential primary. But in the meantime those same Democrats should be reassured that their party itself is in good hands, organizationally, financially and in terms of policy development. One strong set of those hands belongs to New Jersey's own Bob Menendez, the 13th district congressman who is in his sixth term in the US House of Representatives. In a fairly short time Menendez has become Chairman of the prestigious and powerful Democratic Caucus, making him the third ranking member of his party in the House. Following a two-year term as Vice Chair of the Caucus, this former school board member, mayor of Union City, assemblyman and state senator is now the highest ranking Latino in the history of the United States Congress. Those who have known and worked with Menendez over the years describe him as intelligent, articulate, principled and often passionate about causes involving constituents and the nation as a whole. In his years in Washington Menendez has grown into a thinker and lawmaker of enormous substance, a clear and confident proponent of his party's core principles, a highly demanded speaker, and a top candidate recruiter and fundraiser. These attributes are especially important for the Chair of the Democratic Caucus given the upcoming 2004 presidential and congressional elections. And, given the great pressure on the Democrats to cut into the Republicans' control of the national government. Catching up with the Congressman last week in Jersey City, Menendez spoke candidly about the current national political environment and decisively about what the Democrats need to do to prepare for the 2004 campaigns. When talking to such a high-ranking official, the inclination is to brace oneself for some high velocity political spin. But Menendez was all business, freely offering a clinical analysis of how his party needs to hone its message. By which he means justifying its criticisms of Pres. Bush and the Republicans, specifying the Democrats' own priorities and goals, and explaining how they will achieve them. The Congressman also discussed the need for Democrats to do a more careful job recruiting quality candidates in key congressional districts and a better job supporting them if the party expects to make some gains. The Democrats do stand to make gains, Menendez believes, because of Pres. Bush's self-induced problems and his declining approval ratings. In a discussion that was analytical rather than ideological, the Congressman expressed grave concerns about the huge anticipated deficit in this year's federal budget, the burgeoning national debt, and an economic recovery that is not producing the good jobs so many Americans need. Then there are continued and growing questions about Iraq - the number of US troops lost, the high cost of the war, the inability of the Administration to gain widespread international support for the reconstruction effort, and the questions about the President's credibility on weapons of mass destruction, leaks in the CIA, and corporations profiting from the war and attempt to rebuild Iraq. Menendez sees citizens' questions about the economy, Iraq, and the President's credibility as creating a political environment in which a Democratic presidential candidate and many of his party's challengers for House seats can win in November 2004. He noted that if campaign donations are any indication, it's clear that Democrats want change and believe their party can succeed. The nine Democratic presidential candidates have raised about the same total amount as Pres. Bush, himself a record setting fund-raiser. And, the Congressman also insisted that after the nominating convention next August, his party's presidential nominee can count on Democratic National Committee support so the party's message hits the airwaves immediately - something that didn't happen in 2000 - and runs regularly right through Election Day. But to have a chance of beating Pres. Bush and regaining the House, the Democrats need a message and quality candidates to deliver that message. As Chair of the Democratic Caucus, Menendez plays a pivotal role in developing his party's agenda in the House, so it isn't a surprise that he also has lots of ideas about what the Democrats should focus on in 2004. In addition, Menendez has been traveling around the country, meeting with his party's presidential hopefuls, speaking to state and local party organizations, and exchanging ideas with leaders and rank and file members. In his meeting with me, Menendez discussed what he regarded as key issues for 2004 - stimulating the economy, education, America's role in the world, and domestic security. Like most of his fellow Democrats, Menendez objected to Pres. Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy. The Congressman favors returning more tax dollars to middle and working class families. This approach will help cut into the huge deficit that the President's plan made even larger. It will also provide revenue for some needed programs and put money into the hands of cash-strapped Americans who will spend it and help jump start the economy. Menendez also supports a tax incentive plan to accelerate the expansion of small businesses, a plan that such businesses want. In addition, he is calling for major investments in the transportation network to provide short-term jobs in construction, architecture and engineering and to build the infrastructure on which long-term growth can occur. Menendez noted that in his role as Vice Chair and Chair of the Democratic Caucus he has "...encouraged colleagues to reach out to businesses and show that we can be allies." He cited financial services legislation, SEC fee reductions, bankruptcy reform and intellectual property law as areas where he and the Democrats have supported pro-business and pro-investor policies. And, Menendez wants much more spent on research and development and job training, pointing out the need to prepare workers for the emerging economy and for a lifetime of learning. More businesses can also be helped by "unbundling" huge defense contracts and allowing smaller firms a better chance to obtain work. Menendez could not resist mentioning that business people and average citizens need to realize that while Republicans may preach about the need for fiscal conservatism, a balanced budget, and economic growth, the GOP has delivered the opposite in the Bush Administration. On education, Menendez sees fundamental differences between the two parties. The Republicans' much ballyhooed "No Child Left Behind" Act has turned out to be a lot of talk and trouble. Exceptional schools, including some in New Jersey, have been deemed "failures" due to illogical standards. The Republican have not provided the necessary funds to support the Act, leaving the state's some $9 billion short. Nor has the President done anything to help the nation's college students, whereas the Democrats are looking to broaden eligibility for financial aid and to provide more flexibility in obtaining grants and awards. Menendez also objects to the Republicans' plan of putting Head Start funds in block grants. The Congressman and many of his Democratic colleagues want the federal government to provide more funding for after care programs, since so many parents work beyond the end of the school day. Menendez also challenges the Republicans' claim to having more wisdom in foreign affairs. He agrees with the notion that America's national interests and security should not be handicapped or limited by other nations. But, claims the Congressman, there are too many challenges in the today's world for the United States to go it alone. Pres. Bush's policy of preemptive war in Iraq, which few other nations support, has resulted in enormous expenditures and an ever increasing loss of American lives. As such, the United States needs to internationalize its efforts. Menendez warned, "We cannot tell other nations, including our allies, that it's our way or the highway." The Congressman finds fault with the President's approach to domestic security as well and has some serious recommendations to make in this area. The Department of Homeland Security was created with much fanfare, but it is a huge bureaucracy that is struggling to accomplish its mission. Menendez's 13th district is across the river from Ground Zero and lost about 200 residents on 9/11. The 13th also includes such important and sensitive sites as Port Elizabeth/Port Newark, the Holland Tunnel, and many major petroleum facilities. The Congressman advocates more federal funding for first-responders. Police, firefighters and emergency personnel need new manuals, special training, and equipment to deal with terrorist threats and incidents. Menendez also wants consideration given to using advanced technology to monitor sealed cargo containers and better intelligence through the cooperation of federal agencies. Menendez expects his party's House candidates to make these points and more in next year's campaigns. In the meantime, he is working with Nancy Pelosi - the Minority Leader is the House - and other key Democrats on recruiting quality candidates. Menendez noted that last year the Democrats lost some House races because the party didn't properly perform background research on own their candidates who subsequently got hammered by Republicans in the general election. As their party looks to 2004, its leaders are thoroughly vetting congressional aspirants and helping various state, county and local party organizations find good matches between prospective candidates and districts. Menendez is also one of the "Frontline Democrats," a group created by Pelosi whose members are helping raise $1 million for seventeen Democratic incumbents running in targeted districts. As the third ranking Democrat in the House, Menendez is of course optimistic about his party's prospects next year. And if Pres. Bush's poll numbers continue to slide and the economy languishes, Democrats will be positioned to do well up and down the ticket. This doesn't mean, however, that Menendez and his party don't have some important issues to address within their own ranks as they prepare for the 2004 campaign. One is how the party will reconcile its commitment to fiscal integrity and balanced budgets with the demands that many of its own constituent groups will make for more federal spending and aid. Another is how the Democrats can continue to welcome new immigrants to America, especially the ever-growing Latino population, and convince the general public that it is still committed to controlling spending and to being tough on domestic security. Then there is the political irony that many of the new immigrants to whom the Democrats are reaching out have conservative social values similar to those of the Republicans. These tensions cannot be simply wished away by the Democrats. What the party can do, of course, is decide to focus on the negatives and continue to bash the President and his fellow Republicans. As mentioned earlier, such an approach may well backfire. For his part, Menendez prefers to use criticisms of the Republicans as ways of explaining why his and his party's alternatives are needed. Indeed, Menendez told me that he abhors "the politics of personal destruction" in campaigns and regrets that congressmen too often "...fight like gladiators, rather than argue and deliberate like statesmen." Acting like a statesman would, Menendez believes, require the Republican leadership in Congress to give the Democrats more opportunities to voice their views on policy issues. But Democratic statesmen would also have to address those tensions mentioned above. This, too, is a role for which Menendez seems extremely well-suited. Representing a district that is economically, socially, and ethnically diverse, he must balance the interests of investors - Jersey City is often called "Wall Street West" -, major distributors, entrepreneurs, small business people, union workers and low income folks. Toss in teachers, the parents of school kids, a sizable number of seniors, a large number of foreign born residents, many Catholics, and a whole bunch of environmentally sensitive people, and the 13th looks a lot like the national Democratic Party's coalition. Menendez will want to share with his fellow Democrats how he balances his district's competing interests and effectively represents those interests. When asked about where the future may take him, Menendez expressed deep appreciation for the opportunities he has had as Democratic Caucus Vice-Chair and now Chair. He hopes to be reelected to another term as Caucus Chair and that would have to be his last. But if the Democrats do gain a majority in the House in 2004 or soon after, Nancy Pelosi - for whom Menendez has great respect - will likely become Speaker. The Congressman wouldn't mind the position of Majority Leader. Nor does he discount the possibility of pursuing a US Senate seat sometime in the future. This writer suggested that Menendez's intelligence, experience in representing a complex district in the nation's largest metropolitan area, and his appeal to Latinos makes him a great choice as vice presidential candidate at some point. Menendez seemed to be taken aback, but then smiled and said with a little chuckle, "Well, I think I would like that." So, too, will millions of voters across the country who will get to know him much better in coming months. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pure Bull S hit posted Message 2690 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 30, 2004 at 22:52:35 Subject: Menendez Propaganda : The Democratic Party's nine presidential candidates have been getting their fair share of coverage these days, for criticizing Pres. George W. Bush, attacking each other, and in a few cases simply for having the chutzpah to run. At first the spirited repartee between the candidates made good theater, but soon party regulars began to worry. Are the Democrats' criticisms of the President too mean-spirited and will they cause a backlash? Are their attacks of each other so harsh that the eventual nominee will be so bloodied that he will have trouble competing against an even unpopular incumbent? And, will that nominee's policy positions be so jumbled after trying to placate so many different groups in a multi-candidate primary that they won't appeal much to the average voter? : These are concerns that Democrats should have about their party's very crowded and sometimes brutal presidential primary. But in the meantime those same Democrats should be reassured that their party itself is in good hands, organizationally, financially and in terms of policy development. One strong set of those hands belongs to New Jersey's own Bob Menendez, the 13th district congressman who is in his sixth term in the US House of Representatives. : In a fairly short time Menendez has become Chairman of the prestigious and powerful Democratic Caucus, making him the third ranking member of his party in the House. Following a two-year term as Vice Chair of the Caucus, this former school board member, mayor of Union City, assemblyman and state senator is now the highest ranking Latino in the history of the United States Congress. Those who have known and worked with Menendez over the years describe him as intelligent, articulate, principled and often passionate about causes involving constituents and the nation as a whole. : In his years in Washington Menendez has grown into a thinker and lawmaker of enormous substance, a clear and confident proponent of his party's core principles, a highly demanded speaker, and a top candidate recruiter and fundraiser. These attributes are especially important for the Chair of the Democratic Caucus given the upcoming 2004 presidential and congressional elections. And, given the great pressure on the Democrats to cut into the Republicans' control of the national government. : Catching up with the Congressman last week in Jersey City, Menendez spoke candidly about the current national political environment and decisively about what the Democrats need to do to prepare for the 2004 campaigns. When talking to such a high-ranking official, the inclination is to brace oneself for some high velocity political spin. But Menendez was all business, freely offering a clinical analysis of how his party needs to hone its message. By which he means justifying its criticisms of Pres. Bush and the Republicans, specifying the Democrats' own priorities and goals, and explaining how they will achieve them. The Congressman also discussed the need for Democrats to do a more careful job recruiting quality candidates in key congressional districts and a better job supporting them if the party expects to make some gains. : The Democrats do stand to make gains, Menendez believes, because of Pres. Bush's self-induced problems and his declining approval ratings. In a discussion that was analytical rather than ideological, the Congressman expressed grave concerns about the huge anticipated deficit in this year's federal budget, the burgeoning national debt, and an economic recovery that is not producing the good jobs so many Americans need. Then there are continued and growing questions about Iraq - the number of US troops lost, the high cost of the war, the inability of the Administration to gain widespread international support for the reconstruction effort, and the questions about the President's credibility on weapons of mass destruction, leaks in the CIA, and corporations profiting from the war and attempt to rebuild Iraq. : Menendez sees citizens' questions about the economy, Iraq, and the President's credibility as creating a political environment in which a Democratic presidential candidate and many of his party's challengers for House seats can win in November 2004. He noted that if campaign donations are any indication, it's clear that Democrats want change and believe their party can succeed. The nine Democratic presidential candidates have raised about the same total amount as Pres. Bush, himself a record setting fund-raiser. And, the Congressman also insisted that after the nominating convention next August, his party's presidential nominee can count on Democratic National Committee support so the party's message hits the airwaves immediately - something that didn't happen in 2000 - and runs regularly right through Election Day. : But to have a chance of beating Pres. Bush and regaining the House, the Democrats need a message and quality candidates to deliver that message. As Chair of the Democratic Caucus, Menendez plays a pivotal role in developing his party's agenda in the House, so it isn't a surprise that he also has lots of ideas about what the Democrats should focus on in 2004. In addition, Menendez has been traveling around the country, meeting with his party's presidential hopefuls, speaking to state and local party organizations, and exchanging ideas with leaders and rank and file members. In his meeting with me, Menendez discussed what he regarded as key issues for 2004 - stimulating the economy, education, America's role in the world, and domestic security. : Like most of his fellow Democrats, Menendez objected to Pres. Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy. The Congressman favors returning more tax dollars to middle and working class families. This approach will help cut into the huge deficit that the President's plan made even larger. It will also provide revenue for some needed programs and put money into the hands of cash-strapped Americans who will spend it and help jump start the economy. Menendez also supports a tax incentive plan to accelerate the expansion of small businesses, a plan that such businesses want. In addition, he is calling for major investments in the transportation network to provide short-term jobs in construction, architecture and engineering and to build the infrastructure on which long-term growth can occur. : Menendez noted that in his role as Vice Chair and Chair of the Democratic Caucus he has "...encouraged colleagues to reach out to businesses and show that we can be allies." He cited financial services legislation, SEC fee reductions, bankruptcy reform and intellectual property law as areas where he and the Democrats have supported pro-business and pro-investor policies. And, Menendez wants much more spent on research and development and job training, pointing out the need to prepare workers for the emerging economy and for a lifetime of learning. More businesses can also be helped by "unbundling" huge defense contracts and allowing smaller firms a better chance to obtain work. Menendez could not resist mentioning that business people and average citizens need to realize that while Republicans may preach about the need for fiscal conservatism, a balanced budget, and economic growth, the GOP has delivered the opposite in the Bush Administration. : On education, Menendez sees fundamental differences between the two parties. The Republicans' much ballyhooed "No Child Left Behind" Act has turned out to be a lot of talk and trouble. Exceptional schools, including some in New Jersey, have been deemed "failures" due to illogical standards. The Republican have not provided the necessary funds to support the Act, leaving the state's some $9 billion short. Nor has the President done anything to help the nation's college students, whereas the Democrats are looking to broaden eligibility for financial aid and to provide more flexibility in obtaining grants and awards. Menendez also objects to the Republicans' plan of putting Head Start funds in block grants. The Congressman and many of his Democratic colleagues want the federal government to provide more funding for after care programs, since so many parents work beyond the end of the school day. : Menendez also challenges the Republicans' claim to having more wisdom in foreign affairs. He agrees with the notion that America's national interests and security should not be handicapped or limited by other nations. But, claims the Congressman, there are too many challenges in the today's world for the United States to go it alone. Pres. Bush's policy of preemptive war in Iraq, which few other nations support, has resulted in enormous expenditures and an ever increasing loss of American lives. As such, the United States needs to internationalize its efforts. Menendez warned, "We cannot tell other nations, including our allies, that it's our way or the highway." : The Congressman finds fault with the President's approach to domestic security as well and has some serious recommendations to make in this area. The Department of Homeland Security was created with much fanfare, but it is a huge bureaucracy that is struggling to accomplish its mission. Menendez's 13th district is across the river from Ground Zero and lost about 200 residents on 9/11. The 13th also includes such important and sensitive sites as Port Elizabeth/Port Newark, the Holland Tunnel, and many major petroleum facilities. The Congressman advocates more federal funding for first-responders. Police, firefighters and emergency personnel need new manuals, special training, and equipment to deal with terrorist threats and incidents. Menendez also wants consideration given to using advanced technology to monitor sealed cargo containers and better intelligence through the cooperation of federal agencies. : Menendez expects his party's House candidates to make these points and more in next year's campaigns. In the meantime, he is working with Nancy Pelosi - the Minority Leader is the House - and other key Democrats on recruiting quality candidates. Menendez noted that last year the Democrats lost some House races because the party didn't properly perform background research on own their candidates who subsequently got hammered by Republicans in the general election. As their party looks to 2004, its leaders are thoroughly vetting congressional aspirants and helping various state, county and local party organizations find good matches between prospective candidates and districts. Menendez is also one of the "Frontline Democrats," a group created by Pelosi whose members are helping raise $1 million for seventeen Democratic incumbents running in targeted districts. : As the third ranking Democrat in the House, Menendez is of course optimistic about his party's prospects next year. And if Pres. Bush's poll numbers continue to slide and the economy languishes, Democrats will be positioned to do well up and down the ticket. This doesn't mean, however, that Menendez and his party don't have some important issues to address within their own ranks as they prepare for the 2004 campaign. One is how the party will reconcile its commitment to fiscal integrity and balanced budgets with the demands that many of its own constituent groups will make for more federal spending and aid. Another is how the Democrats can continue to welcome new immigrants to America, especially the ever-growing Latino population, and convince the general public that it is still committed to controlling spending and to being tough on domestic security. Then there is the political irony that many of the new immigrants to whom the Democrats are reaching out have conservative social values similar to those of the Republicans. : These tensions cannot be simply wished away by the Democrats. What the party can do, of course, is decide to focus on the negatives and continue to bash the President and his fellow Republicans. As mentioned earlier, such an approach may well backfire. For his part, Menendez prefers to use criticisms of the Republicans as ways of explaining why his and his party's alternatives are needed. Indeed, Menendez told me that he abhors "the politics of personal destruction" in campaigns and regrets that congressmen too often "...fight like gladiators, rather than argue and deliberate like statesmen." Acting like a statesman would, Menendez believes, require the Republican leadership in Congress to give the Democrats more opportunities to voice their views on policy issues. : But Democratic statesmen would also have to address those tensions mentioned above. This, too, is a role for which Menendez seems extremely well-suited. Representing a district that is economically, socially, and ethnically diverse, he must balance the interests of investors - Jersey City is often called "Wall Street West" -, major distributors, entrepreneurs, small business people, union workers and low income folks. Toss in teachers, the parents of school kids, a sizable number of seniors, a large number of foreign born residents, many Catholics, and a whole bunch of environmentally sensitive people, and the 13th looks a lot like the national Democratic Party's coalition. Menendez will want to share with his fellow Democrats how he balances his district's competing interests and effectively represents those interests. : When asked about where the future may take him, Menendez expressed deep appreciation for the opportunities he has had as Democratic Caucus Vice-Chair and now Chair. He hopes to be reelected to another term as Caucus Chair and that would have to be his last. But if the Democrats do gain a majority in the House in 2004 or soon after, Nancy Pelosi - for whom Menendez has great respect - will likely become Speaker. The Congressman wouldn't mind the position of Majority Leader. Nor does he discount the possibility of pursuing a US Senate seat sometime in the future. This writer suggested that Menendez's intelligence, experience in representing a complex district in the nation's largest metropolitan area, and his appeal to Latinos makes him a great choice as vice presidential candidate at some point. Menendez seemed to be taken aback, but then smiled and said with a little chuckle, "Well, I think I would like that." So, too, will millions of voters across the country who will get to know him much better in coming months. : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's the close-up view! posted Message 2691 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 31, 2004 at 10:59:39 Subject: That's how things look from the Ivory Tower Putting Pride and Greed First, Menendez Risks Region’s Security Mayor Glenn Cunningham refuses to bow to Robert Menendez – and allow the County Machine to plunder Jersey City. That infuriates the Congressman who dreams of crowning himself political emperor of Hudson County. The people of Jersey City, witnesses to Menendez’s spite, have endured a long series of petty reprisals and vendettas from the camp of the County Machine. With the persistence of a bully used to getting his own way, Robert Menendez refuses to end the quarrel. His latest front is Mayor Cunningham’s plan to save Jersey City taxpayers millions by refinancing the City’s bonds. Menendez’s pawns in the Jersey City Council have so far blocked the Mayor’s admirable effort to restructure the debt. When pressed, Menendez’s Council admit that the refi is a good idea and. Wanting to keep Glenn Cunningham from success, that’s why they oppose it. The goal of the County machine isn’t to preserve the quality of life of the residents of Jersey City. The Congressman’s organization aims to thwart the Mayor, stir trouble and thus destroy the order and stability of Jersey City. That individuals elected, entrusted, and sworn to serve the interests of Jersey City should, instead, declare open war on their constituents is in and of itself despicable. If this sort of political feud was a festering sore in some isolated locale, it would still be a disgrace. Here in Jersey City there’s the potential for true evil to take root in the furrows the Menendez group wants to plow. If in some sparsely populated backwater, the local government was hobbled and could no longer provide for its citizens, the suffering of individuals would of course be real. But, there would not be any chance of the pain setting into a terrible cancer growing and spreading in each and every direction. That’s a real possibility here. Jersey City is an integral part of the Metropolitan Region. On 9/11, Jersey City emergency personnel were among the first to respond. People were evacuated from Ground Zero in New York City to the Jersey City Waterfront. Imagine that if instead of the calm and functioning municipality ready to aid a neighbor that the world saw that tragic day, Jersey City was paralyzed by traffic jams, misguided reprisals and other civil unrest. If that reflection was able to break out its warped mirror, the horror of September 11 would not have been contained, but would have reflected outwards, like rings on a hellish pond struck by some devil’s stone. Last Summer, Menendez announced that he was initiating research “hoping to identify what Americas' frontlines -- our cities, counties, and states -- require to prepare for possible future attacks.” Well, he doesn’t have very far to look. The van used to deliver the explosives for the first World Trade Center attack was rented two blocks from the Congressman’s Jersey City office. The headquarters of the mastermind of that bombing also was only a couple of blocks away. I don’t know how often Congressman Menendez finds himself in Journal Square, but one would think that he’d be already be very aware of the real threat that terrorism presents here in Jersey City. We are lucky that Mayor Glenn Cunningham, former U.S. Marine and Federal Marshall, and the Department of Homeland Security understand that Jersey City’s ability to prevent and respond to threats is critical to the entire region. Mayor Cunningham began to develop a municipal division of homeland security in 2002. Last November, as part of the Urban Area Security Initiative (UASI), Jersey City received a federal grant of over $17 million to prevent, respond and recover from acts of terrorism. Congressman Menendez should look up from his study long enough to consider the dangerous harvest that his program of destabilization threatens to reap. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Glazer, Urban Times News posted Message 2692 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 31, 2004 at 11:42:20 Subject: NAACP DISCRIMINATION SUIT WINS STATEWIDE REFORMS AND MAYBE MORE TO COME sglazer©urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Stevens, The Urban Times News posted Message 2693 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 31, 2004 at 11:54:37 Subject: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" jstevens©a©urbantimesnews.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** ? posted Message 2694 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 31, 2004 at 12:22:24 Subject: Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Stevie, your banned from watching the tellie! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kabili Tayari ,try using some breath mints. posted Message 2695 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 31, 2004 at 21:46:00 Subject: Re: NAACP DISCRIMINATION SUIT WINS STATEWIDE JOKE AWARD Has this guy ever heard of a toothbrush? ***************** End Of Article ****************** anon posted Message 2696 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 01, 2004 at 00:27:54 Subject: Power List 2004/The Top 100 http://www.politicsnj.com/PowerList2004.htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mental Masturbators posted Message 2697 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 01, 2004 at 10:35:44 Subject: Donald Scarinci's Website Tbat website is owned by Donald Scarinci........Interesting that PoliticsNJ.com never mentions how Menendez Endorsed and Supports Howard Dean. Even More interesting is how The Donald ALWAYS lists HIMSELF on the PowerList. One year Donald declared himself "Politician of The Year" : http://www.politicsnj.com/PowerList2004.htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** In Focus posted Message 2698 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 01, 2004 at 11:13:11 Subject: Re: Power List 2004/The Top 100 Interesting how Cunningham becomes irrelevant even before he finds his way to the State House men's room. Except of course to the clan of double-dipping Cunningham Cool Aide Drinkers enriching themselves like pigs at the troth with high paying State jobs....which only a few months ago they decried as the scurge of Jersey politics. Another example of their self-righteous "do as I say..not as I do" attitude. At least with his State Senator salary, Glenn won't try to collect unemployment in addition to his Marine Corps pension, his City pension, his county pension, and his US Marshal pension once he's bounced from City Hall in 18 months. Or so we should hope. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NEEDS A BATH TOO! posted Message 2699 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 01, 2004 at 12:06:45 Subject: Re: NAACP DISCRIMINATION SUIT WINS STATEWIDE JOKE AWARD LMAO how true, with all the money this man gets you would think he would try a bit harder. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just wondering posted Message 2700 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 01, 2004 at 13:55:10 Subject: Re: Donald Scarinci's Website Where do you think he is on Chris Christie's list? : Tbat website is owned by Donald Scarinci........Interesting that PoliticsNJ.com never mentions how Menendez Endorsed and Supports Howard Dean. : Even More interesting is how The Donald ALWAYS lists HIMSELF on the PowerList. One year Donald declared himself "Politician of The Year" : : http://www.politicsnj.com/PowerList2004.htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Real History Maker posted Message 2701 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 01, 2004 at 15:43:42 Subject: Donald Leads The Pack : Where do you think he is on Chris Christie's list? There is no doubt that the Donald is on that Top Ten List. Whats going to happen to politicsnj.com when the fit hits the shan ? Will politicsnj.com even acknowledge the indictments ? N.J. Historian wannabe D.S. will indeed make history. : : Tbat website is owned by Donald Scarinci........Interesting that PoliticsNJ.com never mentions how Menendez Endorsed and Supports Howard Dean. : : Even More interesting is how The Donald ALWAYS lists HIMSELF on the PowerList. One year Donald declared himself "Politician of The Year" : : : http://www.politicsnj.com/PowerList2004.htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** Crusader posted Message 2702 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 02, 2004 at 12:18:23 Subject: Bonocoure Indictment I hear Ron Bonocoure is being investigated by the FEDS. Anyone have any info on what they're looking for and when the indictment will be coming down? ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2703 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 02, 2004 at 16:32:11 Subject: Tonite on HCT, Earl Morgan Mr Morgan is our guest and his topic's are the JCHA, JCPA, JC City hall, Plus Do we need a light at every Street crossing? Glenn D Cunningham slaps Councilmen Bill Gaughan with conflict of interest lawsuit, All this and more tonite 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2704 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 02, 2004 at 19:56:33 Subject: MANZO 2005 Signs I spotted a Manzo For Mayor sign (keeping a RECALL STEVE LIPSKI sign company) at Five Corners today. Anybody know anything about it? Are some ill-natured individuals trying to tinkle in the punch and create the appearance of disunity? Or -- as many have predicted -- are we seeing the start of Ward A, B, C, D, and E candidates for Mayor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nick Is In Trouble posted Message 2705 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 03, 2004 at 11:38:16 Subject: Sacco Cronie Gets Tap on Wrist Looks like Nick Sacco is going to have a problem. Former North Bergen Commissioner gets 6-month term for taking kickbacks The Associated Press 2/3/2004, 10:27 a.m. ET NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — A former member of the North Bergen governing body has been sentenced to six months in federal prison for accepting $26,000 worth of home improvements and cash from a vendor whose invoices he approved. Peter Perez was fined $5,000 and ordered to repay the $26,000 to the township under the sentence imposed Monday by U.S. District Judge Joseph A. Greenaway Jr. Perez, 43, could have received 18-24 months, but Greenaway gave less after Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey D. Clark certified that Perez provided prosecutors with substantial assistance. The sentencing was the latest development in the ongoing corruption investigation that snared several other officials of the Hudson County township, including its administrator, Joseph Auriemma. A heating and air conditioning contractor, Leonard Farinola, pleaded guilty in February to bribing several North Bergen officials, including Auriemma, in return for contracts. In July 2002, Perez resigned from the North Bergen governing body, the Board of Commissioners, and pleaded guilty to taking $26,000 in cash and home improvements from Farinola. The specifics of Perez's cooperation were in a letter from prosecutors that Greenaway sealed at Clark's request because of the continuing probe. Auriemma was sentenced in July to a three-year prison term for accepting cash and free home improvements from a vendor who did business with North Bergen. He must also repay $33,792 to the township, the value of the benefits he received, and pay a $7,500 fine. Joseph Hernandez, the former purchasing agent of the North Bergen Municipal Utilities Authority, was sentenced in October to a 30-month prison term for taking bribes from contractors. Excavation contractor Domenic Grano was sentenced in September to 21 months in prison and fined $4,000. He admitted he gave cash, a personal watercraft and free construction work to Hernandez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mister Clean posted Message 2706 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 03, 2004 at 13:19:26 Subject: The Slime Rises To The Top Amazing that someone as slimy as Perez only get 6 months. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2707 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 03, 2004 at 16:59:42 Subject: Pat O'Mealia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of February 2, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Special Ed posted Message 2708 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 03, 2004 at 17:56:16 Subject: Re: Pat O'Mealia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of February 2, 2004 : To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. While ranting about ignorance Pat repeatedly says "Aks" when he means Ask, like Ask a question. Somebody please explain to Pat that it is pronounced like it is spelled, with the "ess" before the "kay" Ask. Just think of job hunting. Ass K--- and leave off the "...iss." That should be easy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Noodle posted Message 2709 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 03, 2004 at 17:57:46 Subject: No Talk Show Host Left Behind : : To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. : While ranting about ignorance Pat repeatedly says "Aks" when he means Ask, like Ask a question. Somebody please explain to Pat that it is pronounced like it is spelled, with the "ess" before the "kay" Ask. Just think of job hunting. Ass K--- and leave off the "...iss." That should be easy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Water Cooler posted Message 2710 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 03, 2004 at 20:48:09 Subject: Perez Will Be The Hero Those who know contend that Peter Perez will be the "Hero " of North Bergen once the Federal Indictment ireworks subside. Apparently Nick Sacco and Herb Klitzner got caught on tape. : Looks like Nick Sacco is going to have a problem. : : Former North Bergen : Commissioner gets 6-month term for taking kickbacks : : The Associated Press : 2/3/2004, 10:27 a.m. ET : : NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — A former member of the North Bergen governing body has been sentenced to six months in federal prison for accepting $26,000 worth of home improvements and cash from a vendor whose invoices he approved. : : Peter Perez was fined $5,000 and ordered to repay the $26,000 to the township under the sentence imposed Monday by U.S. District Judge Joseph A. Greenaway Jr. : Perez, 43, could have received 18-24 months, but Greenaway gave less after Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey D. Clark certified that Perez provided prosecutors with substantial assistance. : The sentencing was the latest development in the ongoing corruption investigation that snared several other officials of the Hudson County township, including its administrator, Joseph Auriemma. : A heating and air conditioning contractor, Leonard Farinola, pleaded guilty in February to bribing several North Bergen officials, including Auriemma, in return for contracts. : In July 2002, Perez resigned from the North Bergen governing body, the Board of Commissioners, and pleaded guilty to taking $26,000 in cash and home improvements from Farinola. : The specifics of Perez's cooperation were in a letter from prosecutors that Greenaway sealed at Clark's request because of the continuing probe. : Auriemma was sentenced in July to a three-year prison term for accepting cash and free home improvements from a vendor who did business with North Bergen. He must also repay $33,792 to the township, the value of the benefits he received, and pay a $7,500 fine. : Joseph Hernandez, the former purchasing agent of the North Bergen Municipal Utilities Authority, was sentenced in October to a 30-month prison term for taking bribes from contractors. : Excavation contractor Domenic Grano was sentenced in September to 21 months in prison and fined $4,000. He admitted he gave cash, a personal watercraft and free construction work to Hernandez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ratso Rizzo posted Message 2711 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 03, 2004 at 22:24:43 Subject: King Rat : Those who know contend that Peter Perez will be the "Hero " Perez the hero ? The sleaze would rat out his mother to get a lighter sentence. Ask his wife what a hero Perez is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say CHEEZE NIck Sacco posted Message 2712 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 03, 2004 at 22:53:54 Subject: Big Cheese Catches Big Rat LOL Who Cares They are all Rats Perez is going to destroy Nick Sacco & Herb Klitzner. The North Bergen Party is Over. : Those who know contend that Peter Perez will be the "Hero " : : Perez the hero ? The sleaze would rat out his mother to get a lighter sentence. : Ask his wife what a hero Perez is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Big News posted Message 2713 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 04, 2004 at 01:01:58 Subject: Anotherone going to jail! Hey who knows and they may have to build a brand new jail just for Hudson County Politicians. Who thinks albio will be the next? What is the relationship between franco and sires? I was reading a newsletter at insidehudson.com and they mentioned this name. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2714 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 04, 2004 at 08:44:55 Subject: Cunninghams Bond Scam I was right when i said the Bond Deal by Cunningham was a scam on the Taxpayers of Jersey City.It would have cost the Taxpayers million s of Dollars over the life of the Bond Deal.Congrats,to most of the council people for doing the thing.But not you steve Lipski.you have a lot of explaining to do to the ward C taxpayers.Cunningham also has a lot of explaining to do for scaring the taxpayers and workers half to dead. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Special Ed posted Message 2715 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 04, 2004 at 11:39:04 Subject: Gaynor's Pond Scum : I was right when i said the Bond Deal by Cunningham was a scam on the Taxpayers of Jersey City.It would have cost the Taxpayers million s of Dollars over the life of the Bond Deal.Congrats,to most of the council people for doing the thing.But not you steve Lipski.you have a lot of explaining to do to the ward C taxpayers.Cunningham also has a lot of explaining to do for scaring the taxpayers and workers half to dead. You have not been right about anything since you learned to speak. Maybe in another 50-60 years Gaynor might learn to shut up and stand a chance of learning something from people who actually know. Gaynor would not know one end of a bond from the other, let alone the difference between a good deal and a bad one. Goldman Sachs, Local Finance Board, Treasurer of New Jersey, and Bond Rating agencies all said that this is a good deal. But you and Undertaker Bill G. both know better, doncha? You are a joke and so is your opinion. You epitomize the worst of Hudson County political cronyism and patronage and you don't even have a job! And you will not get one--not ever. You are a wannabe and will always be. Not even a has been, you are a nevawuz. Sober up and get a life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** anon posted Message 2716 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 04, 2004 at 12:33:31 Subject: Re: Gaynor's Pond Scum Mayor Blinks on Budget, Taxpayers Relieved. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frick Frack posted Message 2717 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 04, 2004 at 13:22:49 Subject: Menendez & Dean Why has Boss Menendez been so silent lately ? ? ? Menendez is responsible for the STUPID early endorsement of Presidental hopeful Howard Dean by New Jersey Democrats. Where is the Third Ranking Democrat - seems to be hiding lately. Perhaps rehearsing for his Test a Lying before the Grand Jury. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Appalled by Cunningham's actions posted Message 2718 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 04, 2004 at 22:13:31 Subject: Re: Cunninghams Bond Scam We all knew that this bond scheme was just a veiled attempt by the administration to justify their feud with the majority of the City Council. What really angers me is that the Mayor used the city workers and their families as pawns in his game. Well Mayor Man...you blinked and lost. All of Jersey City, in fact, all the 31st Senate District now sees you for what you are...a bully!! You threatened good people with ficticious layoffs and threatened tax payers with a tax increase...RECALL CUNNINGHAM NOW! This trickery should not and cannot be tolerated...not by Cunningham and crew and not by anyone else either. We need real leadership in Jersey City and it's painfully obvious that Cunningham can't provide us with the leadership that we need. I'm not a big supporter of the HCDO but Cunningham has sunk to lows I have never seen in my years in Jersey City. You can bet that I will not be voting for his re-election and will encourage everyone that I come into contact with to vote for anyone but Cunningham. I applaud the City Council members who held out and kept the long term best interest of the tax payers and workers at heart and didn't use them as political fodder in their feud with the Mayor. I'm waiting to see how Cunningham and crew spin this one. : I was right when i said the Bond Deal by Cunningham was a scam on the Taxpayers of Jersey City.It would have cost the Taxpayers million s of Dollars over the life of the Bond Deal.Congrats,to most of the council people for doing the thing.But not you steve Lipski.you have a lot of explaining to do to the ward C taxpayers.Cunningham also has a lot of explaining to do for scaring the taxpayers and workers half to dead. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 2719 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 04, 2004 at 23:25:13 Subject: Re: Anotherone going to jail! I'm leaning towards Nick myself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2720 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 05, 2004 at 08:42:47 Subject: Jersey City and Marty "Butsy" Walsh Why i love jersey City.Please read-ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jedsey_journal/ This is whyJersey City is so great.Be proud and Strong of where you come from.Read the Story of Marty "Butsy" Walsh.Starting on page-11.This is about life-Politics and the love of Jersey City and where you come from.Thanks too Jed DiMatteo for brining this super life story to us for our enjoyment.This is why we must fight to keep Jersy City Great.Its about our past and our future.Every Child .who lives in Jersey City should be made to read this Story of Marty"Butsy"Walsh. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jedsey posted Message 2721 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 05, 2004 at 09:42:01 Subject: Re: Jersey City and Marty "Butsy" Walsh I agree and I was embarrassed that I fell upon this story by accident and only had known a small part about what Marty Walsh had been up to after graduation. You can catch up with him this Sunday when he gives the tribute to his former coach Don Kennedy at the party after the game - hope to see everybody there, it projects to be a real Jersey City happening. Call or email Fred Cranwell to be included ( cranwell_f@spc.edu ). ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Scream For Dean posted Message 2722 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 05, 2004 at 10:25:23 Subject: Menendez Endorses Loser Dean gets backing of leading lawmaker Rep. Bob Menendez of New Jersey, the third-highest-ranking Democrat in the House, supports Howard Dean's presidential bid. BY FRANK DAVIES fdavies@herald.com WASHINGTON - The only Cuban-American Democrat in Congress, Rep. Bob Menendez of New Jersey, endorsed Howard Dean for president Tuesday as the former Vermont governor stepped up efforts to seek Hispanic support. Menendez, the third-highest-ranking Democrat in the House, said he was not supporting his former House leader, Dick Gephardt, because Dean would ''energize voters, including Hispanics'' on issues of education, healthcare and immigration. Dean ''also spoke out against the war in Iraq when it was not necessarily popular,'' Menendez added, while Gephardt supported it. Menendez said he was comfortable with Dean's position on Cuba and the U.S. embargo, which has shifted in the past year, and planned to ''proselytize'' for Dean among Cuban voters in Florida and New Jersey. Dean said in August that while he wanted to ease the embargo in return for human-rights concessions in Cuba, ''we can't do it right now'' because of the Fidel Castro's crackdown on dissidents. ''The governor is open-minded on Cuba policy, but I appreciate his position that the policy should not be changed as long as Castro does not change,'' Menendez said. Dean recently picked up the endorsements of several Democratic leaders in Puerto Rico, including Rep. Aníbal Acevedo Vilá. Six other Democratic members of the Hispanic Caucus in Congress support Dean: Nydia Velázquez of New York, Raúl Grijalva of Arizona, and Loretta Sanchez, Xavier Becerra, Lucille Roybal-Allard and Hilda Solis of California. Puerto Rican voters in Central Florida and Cuban Americans could be a crucial factor in the March 9 Democratic presidential primary in Florida and in the general election. Gwen Graham Logan, Sen. Bob Graham's daughter who is working for Dean, said ``Menendez's endorsement will be very influential among Cuban Americans in Florida.'' ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why Dean Lost ! posted Message 2723 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 05, 2004 at 10:28:22 Subject: Menendez Campaigned In Iowa U.S. CONGRESSMAN BOB MENENDEZ (D-NJ) ENDORSES GOVERNOR DEAN Highest Ranking Latino Member in History of Congress Endorses Democratic Presidential Candidate WATERLOO - U.S. Congressman Bob Menendez (D-NJ, 13), Chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, endorsed Democratic Presidential Candidate Governor Howard Dean, MD, today in Waterloo, Iowa. The endorsement of Menendez, the highest ranking elected Democrat to endorse Dean, brings the candidate's total to 28 endorsements from members of the U.S. House. "As Governor, Howard Dean balanced budgets, just like American families have to balance theirs. He will restore the sound fiscal management we had under President Clinton, returning us to balanced budgets, because he knows we can have no long-term, sustained economic growth with soaring deficits," said Menendez. "As a doctor, he is the true compassionate in this campaign - he doesn't need to profess that, he's lived it as a citizen and public servant." Congressman Menendez is the 3rd- ranking Democrat in the U.S. House of Representatives, the highest ranking Hispanic in Congressional history, and the only Hispanic ever elected to a leadership position in either chamber, by either party. Menendez sat on the select committee on Homeland Security and the Homeland Security Task Force and currently is the Democratic Ranking Member on the House International Relations Committee. "Bob is a true leader in the Congress and I am thrilled to have his support," said Dean. "His advice and support will be helpful throughout the campaign." Menendez will travel with Governor Dean in Iowa on Saturday, December 27 and host a conference call with National and Hispanic media on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 to discuss his endorsement. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2724 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 05, 2004 at 13:12:27 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Will R. Ecall posted Message 2725 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 06, 2004 at 12:58:06 Subject: North Arlington Councilwoman North Arlington's rookie Councilwoman, Carey Ann Rosenblatt, took all town employees W2 forms including social security numbers out of the municipal building. The last time she took the salaries home they ended up on a public website. In this day and age of identity theft I hope there are rules against this practice. Salaries are one thing, but social security numbers can ruin someone’s life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I.M. Peach posted Message 2726 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 06, 2004 at 13:05:50 Subject: Re: North Arlington Councilwoman She should be run out of town. What she did was CRIMINAL. Her stepping down will not stop the tsunami coming her way. Lawsuits are being prepared and will be filed early next week. She better pawn the Benz now to pay the legal fees. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Very funny reading posted Message 2727 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 06, 2004 at 14:16:09 Subject: Corzine's speech reprint REMARKS AS PREPARED FOR SENATOR JON S. CORZINE WASHINGTON PRESS CLUB FOUNDATION CONGRESSIONAL DINNER Wednesday, February 4, 2004 Would you look at this dais? Bill Thomas, Tom Delay, Roy Blunt, Deborah Pryce… Debbie Stabenow, and me. 4 Republicans and 2 Democrats. Looks like Tom DeLay has already redistricted the head table. Actually, this is a terrific bipartisan event. If I may paraphrase a Kennedy line: this may be the most accomplished group of Democrats and Republicans that has ever gathered -- with the possible exception of when Wesley Clark dines alone. Seriously, thank you for inviting me. I’m truly pleased to be here to celebrate journalism and the important role you play in our society. I’m also happy to be at a dinner where I am NOT expected to pick up the check. Though if you need me to -- I can. For all of you who didn’t laugh – I want my $10 back. In fact, I want you to know: I made my money the Democratic way – I worked for it. That way my kids can make it the Republican way – they can inherit it. Speaking of Republicans, I’ll try to be brief tonight. , because I’ve been to these dinners before… and I know they can be more painful than a Bill Thomas apology. By the way, Bill, the people assembled outside are just waiting to check their coats. No need to call the capitol police. I mentioned Tom Delay. Tom got in a little trouble regarding the Republican convention in New York. He wanted his supporters to stay on a luxury cruise liner. Apparently, Republicans are NOT worried about Norwalk cruise virus. I guess that’s because they were already planning on spending the whole week pumping out sewage. I wanted to use another word. But you know these days, the FCC – much like Justin Timberlake – has its hands full. Anyway -- Tom called the cruise ship idea off, which is too bad… I had JUST rented the perfect iceberg. I’d like to thank Gwen Ifill for hosting emceeing this event dinner. Gwen’s at PBS now, but she’s been at NBC, the New York Times, the Baltimore Sun, and the Washington Post. Gwen – you are the reason I’m fighting for pension portability. I also see that Adam Clymer is on your board, and here at the head table. Some of you might remember, Adam was Dick Cheney’s favorite reporter. But Adam’s retired from the New York Times. He just took a job with the Annenberg Election Survey. Actually, the full name is: Annenberg -- Survey -- Service -- Held -- On -- Leadership -- Elections. But the Bush people like to call it the A-S-S-H-O-L-E. Congrats, Adam, it’s a major-league job. I should also acknowledge C-Span, which is covering the program tonight, and I want to thank them for the public service they provide. But I do want to say something to that one Republican who always calls in on the Democratic line -- claiming he’s a lifelong democrat --- “Listen, buddy – it didn’t work for Joe Lieberman, either.” I should also say something to the Democrat who keeps calling on the Republican line --- “The accent gives you away, Zell.” I kid. They are great Senators, and being in the U.S. Senate is a great job. Although, when I arrived, my friends told me that told me that this the job would really age me. And it has. I started as a junior senator to Bob Torricelli, and ended up as a Senior Senator to Frank Lautenberg. Say what you will about Frank Lautenberg – but if he demonstrates anything, it’s New Jersey’s commitment to recycling. Many of you know that Frank just got married. It’s a good news -- bad news sort of thing. Good news for Frank; he’s got a helluva smile on his face. The bad news: Washington’s most eligible bachelor is now Dennis Kucinich. Being a Senator is a great job… But it is a tough job, too. Being from New Jersey, you’re competing for attention with the likes of Senator Clinton, Senator Schumer and Chris Dodd. Frankly, sharing a media market with Chuck Schumer is like sharing a banana with a monkey. Take a little bite of it, and he will throw his own feces at you. Don’t you people watch the nature channel? It’s also tough representing getting New Jersey its due. Frankly I think we should shine a light on some of the things we do well. For example, New Jersey’s schools are doing their job. Every child in my state can spell the word pharmaceutical. M-E-R-C-K. Pharmaceutical. And today, in New Jersey, every single child – by the time they reach the third grade -- can count all the way up to his or her turnpike exit. That way, if any child IS left behind -- he or she can hitchhike home. As if being Senator from New Jersey isn’t challenge enough, I’ve taken on the chairmanship of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee – I’ve dedicated myself to getting Democrats elected to the Senate. As far as hard jobs go, I’d put it somewhere between being Michael Jackson’s lawyer -- and his surgeon. Since you’re an inside crowd, I’ll put it in terms we can all understand. It’s somewhere between being Howard Dean’s anger management coach -- and Joe Trippi. Speaking of shake-ups -- some of you followed the little staff shake-up we had over at the DSCC. At first, I was against the idea of changing directors, switching messages, and creating the overall appearance of desperation. But it worked wonders for John Kerry. Senator Kerry and I actually discussed it the other day, when I landed my helicopter on his yacht… which was moored off his island… which is in my pool. My counterpart on the Republican side is of course George Allen. Senator Allen is ALSO the Chairman of the Republican High Tech Task Force. That’s where he and his colleagues grapple with the concept of evolution. George isn’t here, but he would agree that we both have a lot of tough races. But for Democrats, there are signs of hope. For example, I think we might elect a Democrat to fill John Breaux’s seat. So that would be a good pickup. Of course, one of the keys to any election is fundraising. You know Mitch McConnell was supposed to be here. He’s been fighting the campaign finance law in court, and he makes a compelling argument. He says it limits free speech… that it goes against our Constitution. I like what Mitch has to say – not because he’s right… but because it’s the first time in three years I’ve heard a Republican defend the Constitution. In addition to fundraising, these races are also about message. Now, we all saw the President lay out HIS message at the State of the Union. I thought it was a pretty impressive speech. I did think it was a little unfair that the camera zoomed in on Super Bowl MVP Tom Brady when the President mentioned steroids. It seems to me that if anyone in that room is benefiting from performance-enhancing drugs – it’s Elizabeth Dole. But it’s true; the President has laid out some great, unifying goals for America. He wants to send a man to the Moon. I also heard he is considering endorsing the Missouri Compromise of 1820 (not as funny). (MAKE IT MORE CLEAR) You can’t blame the guy for being excited. First of all, he might not know that we already landed a man on the moon. Remember, the mid 60’s to the mid 80’s are a little fuzzy for him. But it got me thinking. If President Bush wants great goals that we’ve ALREADY achieved to unify America… then I should come up with some DEMOCRATIC goals that we’ve already achieved to unify AmericaALSO capture America’s spirit of adventure and exploration. So here’s one I thought of: I believe Democrats should get behind the idea of Manifest Destiny. That’s right -- we’re going to be the party that settles the American West. Native Americans should NOT be worried--. It may be a unilateral action, but we’ll be a liberating force… not an occupying one. In order to accomplish this DEMOCRATIC policy of “Manifest Destiny” – I think we should purchase a large tract of land… from the French. And then, we should pick two American heroes to map this new land. I suggest sending Congressman John Lewis and General Wesley Clark on this journey. We’ll call it the Lewis and Clark Expedition. Perhaps, I shouldn’t tell political jokes in Washington. That’s like taking coal to Newcastle, or oil to Baghdad -- but without the profit incentive. I don’t really know what Paul O’Neill was talking about -- but Halliburton seems to think that the “price of loyalty” is about $4 a gallon. We’re going to look into that. And so should all of you. Because that’s what you do best. Without you -- we’d have a government that could violate people’s civil liberties with impunity -- and a government that could actually invade foreign countries without any evidence. Well, at least without you, we wouldn’t have the classifieds. Actually, I came to politics later in life, but I’ve learned a lot, and I’ve spent a lot. One of the things I’ve learned is that sometimes the most important work ISN’T done by people like me… but by all of you. Today, in America, we’re dealing with greater challenges than I ever could have imagined when I entered public life. That’s true -- whether it’s the events this week on the Hill… or around the world, where our troops are risking their lives daily. For all of us to navigate and deal with our challenges, we need honest information and debate – fair and balanced. And for honest information and debate – we need you, the Fourth Estate. In the business world, as recent scandals have reminded us, transparency is key. The same goes for the operations of government. And often, you are the only ones who are capable of pulling back the curtain of secrecy, and explaining what’s behind it. The fact that the proceeds from this dinner are going to educate the next generation of journalists ensures that the work you do so well every day will be continued tomorrow… so thank you. And thank you for providing the opportunity for us to laugh with and at each other. You know, I was really nervous about coming here tonight. I knew I was one of two speakers -- I knew that Bill has done these things before, and is a really funny guy. But I think I can say with some confidence that the worst I can do is end up in a three way tie for third place. Thank you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Spare me posted Message 2728 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 07, 2004 at 07:46:52 Subject: Re: Corzine's speech reprint Corzine is about as funny as AIDS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** We don't want to spare you....off with your head! posted Message 2729 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 07, 2004 at 08:36:42 Subject: Re: Corzine's speech reprint And your as witty as a wart ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2730 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 07, 2004 at 19:19:50 Subject: Online Audio: Jersey City Redevelopment Agency Meeting of the Board, 07/07/03 At this meeting: Attorney Donald Scarinci was replaced Jersey City Attorney John Kealy, as Special and General Counsel, Junior Maldonado was replaced by Steven Lipski as Chairman, and Executive Director Suzanne Mack given 120 days’ notice as required by contract to terminate her employment. Click on the Link to access an Online recording of this pivotal meeting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jennifer Morrill, Press Secretary, City of Jersey City posted Message 2731 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 09, 2004 at 16:53:59 Subject: "New Police Director to be Sworn In" -- U. S. Attorney Christopher Christie to Speak at Ceremony Feb. 9, 2004 For Immediate Release Contact: Jennifer Morrill Press Secretary (201) 547-4943 ADVISORY ADVISORY ADVISORY "New Police Director to be Sworn In" U. S. Attorney Christopher Christie to Speak at Ceremony JERSEY CITY - Retired Jersey City Police Officer Sam Jefferson, who most recently held the position of Director of Commerce for the city, will be sworn in as Police Director at 6:30 p.m. on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 at the Mary McLeod Bethune Community Center at 140 Martin Luther King Drive. The ceremony's speaker will be one of the state's highest ranking law enforcement officials, U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie./// ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2732 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 09, 2004 at 17:09:13 Subject: Tonites show Flintkote site back in the news, Hudson County's sweet 16 wish list for Bayonne Mayor Joe Doria, Former JCRA Dir Sue Macks law suit, all this and more tonite 9PM WNSW 1430AM radio Hudson County's Talking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2733 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 09, 2004 at 19:53:20 Subject: Scarinci & Hollenbeck In the News Here's an interesting Page at an interesting Site. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2734 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 10, 2004 at 12:56:02 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of February 9, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** When Hoboken was a prairie. . . posted Message 2735 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 10, 2004 at 19:00:23 Subject: Former Hoboken City Officials Rebut Charges of Overbilling by Lawyers Former Hoboken City Officials Rebut Charges of Overbilling by Lawyers Jim Edwards New Jersey Law Journal 02-09-2004 The former clients of lawyers for the city of Hoboken have produced a detailed, check-by-check rebuttal of accusations that they signed off on dubious, overbilled contracts. According to their 61-page analysis -- which drills down to individual payments complete with check numbers derived from city records -- it may be that the lawyers actually saved Hoboken money. The competing sets of claims followed former Mayor Anthony Russo's indictment last year for allegedly taking a bribe from a lawyer in return for a contract. The billing review was spurred by an unrelated accounting audit that raised questions about the city's contractors. The billing flap started in December, when Hoboken Corporation Counsel Joseph Sherman invited county and federal prosecutors to examine $1.3 million in bills by three sets of lawyers who made campaign donations to Russo. The lawyers appeared to have billed beyond their contracts, or received double contracts to do the same work running at the same time, or to have been paid without contracts, city officials alleged. "Every judge in the state has seen this thing. I can't go into a courtroom without getting asked about it," says Arthur E. Balsamo, one of the accused lawyers, regarding the allegations. The Cliffside Park solo practitioner denies he worked without a contract, and he hails the detailed rebuttal. The two former Hoboken officials responsible for the analysis say the allegations are simply political mudslinging designed to make Hoboken's new mayor look good in comparison with the old one. Former city chief financial officer George De Stefano and former business administrator George Crimmins say they spent three straight days in the city clerk's office pulling out billing and contract records. They provided the Law Journal with copies of what they found. All the payments made to the accused lawyers appear to be legitimate, they say. There are no missing contracts, and much of the "overbilling" is reimbursable expenses that should not have been counted against their contract fees, they say. Once those are factored out, the pair claims, two of the attorneys actually billed less than their contracts called for. Robert Murray of Murray, Murray & Corrigan in Little Silver, received a $325,000 contract to act as Hoboken's general counsel, and an $85,000 contract to act as labor counsel -- both contracts for calendar year 1999. However, halfway through 1999, Murray received a second set of identical contracts for the same amounts of money, doubling the value of his business to $820,000, according to De Stefano and Crimmins. The second contract was for calendar year 2000, they note. By June 2001, Murray had billed the city for $859,168, the pair's analysis shows. An overbilling? Not at all, they say. Of that sum, about $21,000 was for reimbursable expenses and $18,395 was a payment from a prior contract in 1998. Once those are taken away from the total, Murray brought his bill under the line by $146.25. Murray's bills have been a particular focus because he occupied the positions of corporation counsel, labor counsel and counsel to the school board simultaneously. During the same period, Russo is accused of taking a $1,500 bribe from former Kearny Mayor Leo Vartan, a solo practitioner who handled a school board lobbying project in Trenton. The allegations, and the Law Journal's coverage of them, "has damaged and tarnished the reputation of creditable law firms as well as the professionals of the prior administration," De Stefano wrote in a cover letter to the analysis. Murray did not return a call for comment; nor did his lawyer. It is a similar story with Carbone & Faasse of Ridgewood. The firm was retained for two positions, representing the planning board and as counsel on waterfront development. Like Murray's firm, Carbone & Faasse's $175,000 contract for 1999 was renewed for the same amounts six months into the agreement. The firm continued to receive checks until July 2001, the records show. Although the doubled-up deal called for total payments of $350,000 over the two years, the firm eventually billed $395,463, according to the De Stefano and Crimmins analysis. But again, once reimbursables and prior-year payments are removed, Carbone & Faasse underbilled by $26,202, the documents show. John Carbone did not return a call for comment. Cliffside Park's Balsamo was the object of the least serious allegations. Although the City Council approved a resolution paying him to serve as Alcoholic Beverage Control Board prosecutor, the city could not find a contract authorizing $18,250 in payments to him. Balsamo himself also managed to lose a copy of the document, he told the Law Journal in January. The city should have looked harder, De Stefano and Crimmins say, as their digging in the clerk's office revealed signed copies of that contract. "I don't think they looked. I think the clerk they asked did a cursory look and said they didn't find it," Crimmins says. "Hallelujah!" Balsamo said, in reaction to news that his contract did, in fact, exist, and that the analysis appeared to exonerate him. "It would be nice for something to come out to say I actually didn't swindle anybody." The only remaining mystery is the timing of the contracts. De Stefano and Crimmins' research offers no explanation for the early renewals, although the payment lists indicate that all three sets of lawyers were paid during both calendar years. Sherman, the city's corporation council, declines to comment. He has previously said that even if the contracts were awarded as part of a patronage scheme the money is not recoverable as legal work was actually done. The current city business administrator, Robert Drasheff, did not return a call. Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney's Office in January, citing the ongoing federal investigation of Hoboken. The U.S. Attorney's office declined to comment last week. Municipal billing in Hudson County -- and whether it is done honestly -- has a slippery history. In 2003, for instance, Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham accused Lyndhurst's Scarinci & Hollenbeck of overbilling the city's redevelopment agency. A Law Journal examination of the bills, however, indicated that the biggest biller was Teaneck's DeCotiis, FitzPatrick, Cole & Wisler. The former firm is allied with Cunningham's political enemies, the latter is one of his fundraisers. A similar scenario is playing out in Hoboken. The accused lawyers supported former Mayor Russo -- and De Stefano is Russo's brother-in-law. Their accusers are loyal to the current mayor, David Roberts, who took over in 2001. And it is not only the Russo faction's lawyers who have been taking flak. At the same meeting in which the billings probe was first aired, Russo's son, Councilman Michael Russo, persuaded the city to ax Clifton firm Pojanowski & Trawinski from the payroll. Its $90,000 contract was for ad hoc litigation. The firm was conflicted in representing the council, Michael Russo claimed, because it represented his election opponents in a balloting challenge. "This is the Russo machine's way of getting back at the administration," Joseph Pojanowski III said last week. "The Roberts administration felt the probes were just and the Russo people are trying to intimidate and bully their way to stop the investigation of their favorites." Michael Russo, unsurprisingly, believes the opposite is true. "It's kind of sad that the administration would go to those lengths to charge three different firms, three different attorneys, they're very respected in their communities, in their professions. For a political headline, they're going to defame those people." Russo claims he's on a mission to rid Hoboken of patronage and graft. When asked if -- given that his father is nearing trial in Newark U.S. District Court on bribery charges -- that might be something of a mountain for him to climb, Russo replied, "Yes and no. I was elected as my own man. ... It's just something I need to be consistent with." ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOVE JERSEY CITY posted Message 2736 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 11, 2004 at 09:48:20 Subject: Please attend: Friends of the Embankment: Please forward to anyone you think would be interested. We urge you to come to the Council meeting, this Wednesday, February 11th at 280 Grove Street at 6pm. The council is considering abatements in the downtown including one for the Flintkote property. See the attached articles for the sad tale of this property. It is critical that Friends of the Embankment attend this meeting because both the investor and the HEDC Director mentioned in these articles may influence the fate of the Embankment. For details please read yesterday's Jersey Journal article http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/index.ssf?/base/news-2/1076325099194833.xml. and today's Jersey Journal Opinion page http://www.nj.com/editorials/jjournal/index.ssf?/base/editorials-0/1076411571228250.xml If you want to say something in front of the Council, you must call the City Clerk's office at 201-547-5150 to register to speak at tomorrow's council meeting. If you can't come to the meeting please call and/or email any or all members of the Council to weigh in. Here is their contact information: L. Harvey Smith Council President 201-547-5268 Harvey@jcnj.org Jerramiah Healy Council at Large 201-547-4634 Healyj@jcnj.org Mariano Vega Council at Large 201-547-5134 Mariano@jcnj.org Peter Brennan Ward A Councilman 201-547-5098 BrennanpMaryd@jcnj.org Mary Donnelly Ward B Councilwoman 201-547-5092 Maryd@jcnj.org Steve Lipski Ward C Councilman 201-547-5159 Lipskis@jcnj.org Bill Gaughan Ward D Councilman 201-547-5485 Bill@jcnj.org Junior Maldonado Ward E Councilman 201-547-5315 JrMaldonado@jcnj.org Viola Richardson Ward F Councilwoman 201-547-5338 richardson@jcnj.org ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2737 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 11, 2004 at 10:50:10 Subject: NJN Video: 03/17/02 - The Start of the Political War Michael Aron discusses the start of the political war between Mayor Glenn Cunningham and Congressman Robert Menendez. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Republican Party posted Message 2738 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 11, 2004 at 18:30:59 Subject: Lincoln Day Brunch -- February 28th, 2004 Please join Hudson County GOP Chairman Jose O. Arango & the members of the Republican Committee at our annual Lincoln Day Brunch February 28th, 2004 11:00am – 2:00pm The Merchant 279 Grove Street, Jersey City (just across from City Hall) Donation: $75.00 Make check payable to Hudson County Republican Party ***************** End Of Article ****************** Honest Abe posted Message 2739 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 11, 2004 at 20:36:19 Subject: I'm spinning in my grave. Jose Arango a stalwart of my party ? Oh the humanity !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** stra8arrow posted Message 2740 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 03:23:26 Subject: Bobby J So where is he now and what of his debt to society. He never gave enough to get off so easy. We need his BIG FISH. So what about it Bob? We're tired of paying your hotel bill for protection. I'd like a vacation like yours, I'm sure we all would! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Be Careful What You Ask For posted Message 2741 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 11:41:18 Subject: TROY WASHINGTON Be Careful What You Ask For Jersey City may not end up being too happy with the fact that Troy Washington transferred his executive director’s job from the Hoboken Housing Authority to the Jersey City Housing Authority. According to inside sources, an informal audit of Hoboken Housing Authority records allegedly disclose vast over-spending of funds to the point of putting the Authority in serious financial jeopardy. In addition, there are allegedly some very serious questions regarding the security details and contracts totaling about $3 million at the Authority. According to one source, it could warrant records being turned over to U.S. Attorney Chris Christie. According to another source, the U.S. Attorney is already getting primed to look into the Authority’s dealings. ***************** End Of Article ****************** There's hope yet? posted Message 2742 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 11:48:50 Subject: I'll get what I want? I'm waiting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** God Bless the USA posted Message 2743 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 12:01:19 Subject: Thank You US ATTORNEY Thank You U.S. Attorney Christoper Christie for coming to Jersey City and Speaking at the Swearing In Ceremonies of Mayor Glenn D.Cunningham's Police Director. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE FACTS posted Message 2744 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 12:14:04 Subject: Re: Thank You US ATTORNEY NO HE IS NOT OWNED BY GLENN. GLENN WORKS FOR THE PEOPLE OF JERSEY CITY (AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT WE THOUGHT HE WOULD DO) THE PEOPLE DO NOT BELONG TO CUNNINGHAM....thank you GOD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kakakakatie posted Message 2745 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 12:25:54 Subject: Re: Thank You US ATTORNEY : Thank You U.S. Attorney Christoper Christie for coming to Jersey City and Speaking at the Swearing In Ceremonies of Mayor Glenn D.Cunningham's Police Director. Lets see Christie has indicted 3 prominent Jersey City politicians, Janiszewski, Colon, and Braker. All three supported Cunningham in the mayoral race. Can a member of the Manzo clan be far behind? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2746 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 13:56:16 Subject: Story's on the West Coast already Jeepers! Yesterday, somebody called me from California to tell me the story. Anybody know if there's any truth to it? : : Thank You U.S. Attorney Christoper Christie for coming to Jersey City and Speaking at the Swearing In Ceremonies of Mayor Glenn D.Cunningham's Police Director. : Lets see Christie has indicted 3 prominent Jersey City politicians, Janiszewski, Colon, and Braker. All three supported Cunningham in the mayoral race. Can a member of the Manzo clan be far behind? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stevey Wonder posted Message 2747 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 14:55:01 Subject: Glenn to recieve letter from US Attorney Glenn will shortly be the subject of an investigation. Standing to close to the fire one gets burned. Imagine that Glenn is a scandal waiting to happen. Goodbye Glenn old chap. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2748 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 16:01:48 Subject: Re: Glenn to recieve letter from US Attorney Christie just did a photo op with Cunningham. Was that to throw Glenn off his guard or something? : Glenn will shortly be the subject of an investigation. Standing to close to the fire one gets burned. Imagine that Glenn is a scandal waiting to happen. Goodbye Glenn old chap. ***************** End Of Article ****************** For Good Government posted Message 2749 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 16:23:58 Subject: Glenn to Recieve Thank You Letter Christopher Christie knows Glenn is a Honest Man. NO photo op of US Attorney and Congressman Menendez - Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. : Christie just did a photo op with Cunningham. Was that to throw Glenn off his guard or something? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lovely Rita` posted Message 2750 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 16:45:36 Subject: Re: And Who's Goin To Read It To Him? : Christopher Christie knows Glenn is a Honest Man. : NO photo op of US Attorney and Congressman Menendez - Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. : : : Christie just did a photo op with Cunningham. Was that to throw Glenn off his guard or something? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sunshine posted Message 2751 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 17:15:55 Subject: Re: Thank You US ATTORNEY In god we trust...Glenn we polygraph! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Guess Who posted Message 2752 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 18:40:32 Subject: Glenn's pay to play club revealed Glenn's pay to play club has gotten him in water over his head. Pay and window number one pick up the deal at window number two the only thing missing is the clown selling the special prize for the kids. McGlenns over one billion served to offshore bank accounts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Come on posted Message 2753 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 18:43:20 Subject: Re: Glenn's pay to play club revealed This is really not fair Glenn is a great mayor and senator and will probably be govenor some day. If you think that is true I can sell you a large bridge in Brooklyn. : Glenn's pay to play club has gotten him in water over his head. Pay and window number one pick up the deal at window number two the only thing missing is the clown selling the special prize for the kids. McGlenns over one billion served to offshore bank accounts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Auto Bob posted Message 2754 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 18:45:14 Subject: Glenn recieves new car from favorite vendor A new car has been delivered to Glenn and he really likes the idea of a free new car. The only one paying for it is the taxpayers of Jersey City indirectly of course. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2755 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 19:58:14 Subject: Janet E. Haynes still listed as County Clerk Janet E. Haynes is still listed as County Clerk on the Hudson County Web Site. In the title her name is mispelled: Hayes. Hasn't Javier Inclan (or anybody else) ever bothered to take a look? ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO posted Message 2756 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 20:10:53 Subject: LET ME GUESS>>>A BMW WORTH 122,000.00 Glenn seen waxing it in Dickinson parking lot.....just kidding.....I think? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sunshine posted Message 2757 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 20:12:16 Subject: Re: Story's on the West Coast already http://www.nj.com/statehouse/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-1/107657009495190.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 2758 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 22:11:44 Subject: LMAO Glenn as Governor ???? Obviously Glenn hasn't eliminated all the drug dealers. You must be high as a kite !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ROTFLMAO...well said! posted Message 2759 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 22:16:33 Subject: Re: LMAO : Glenn as Governor ???? Obviously Glenn hasn't eliminated all the drug dealers. You must be high as a kite !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 2760 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 12, 2004 at 22:19:19 Subject: MANZO FAMILY VALUES It appears Ron Manzo will soon be a guest of the Federal authorities. Isn't this the person that Glenn wanted to broker new health insurance for the City ? Louie still loves him though. http://www.nj.com/statehouse/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-1/107657009495190.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2761 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 13, 2004 at 08:26:27 Subject: Star Ledger: Ron Manzo at center of insider trading probe, lawyers say Ron Manzo at center of insider trading probe, lawyers say Ron Manzo at center of insider trading probe, lawyers say Friday, February 13, 2004 By Josh Margolin Newhouse News Service The brother of Assemblyman Lou Manzo of Jersey City is negotiating a plea agreement with federal investigators looking at a insider-trading allegation against a former top aide to Gov. James E. McGreevey, according to three lawyers whose clients have been contacted by investigators. Prosecutors are examining whether, in 1999, Gary Taffet improperly used inside information to buy shares in two companies that soared in value on news they were being acquired by other companies, according to three lawyers whose clients have been contacted by federal investigators. Taffet told SEC investigators he bought the stocks on the recommendation of Ronald Manzo, a Hudson County insurance broker. At the time, Taffet ran an insurance consulting firm and was a key political adviser to McGreevey, then the mayor of Woodbridge. . . . For the complete article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jonathan Pronger posted Message 2762 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 13, 2004 at 10:36:33 Subject: Hi Chris, here is the information you ask for The sports of medieval times were less well-organized. Fairs and seasonal festivals were occasions for men to lift stones or sacks of grain and for women to run smock races (for a smock, not in one). The favourite sport of the peasantry was folk football, a wild sort of no-holds-barred unbounded game that pitted married men against bachelors or one village against another. The violence of the game, which survived in Britain and in France until the late 19th century, was such that Renaissance humanists, such as Sir Thomas Elyot, condemned it as more likely to maim than to benefit the participants. online casino sports betting ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2763 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 13, 2004 at 12:58:09 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 2764 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 13, 2004 at 19:34:55 Subject: Cool content needed! Anthony...you know what would be really cool on this board...if you would post the City Council agendas as well as the council caucus and meeting transcripts for all of us who can't make it to City Hall to pick them up. Ideally, we would get these agendas and transcripts for the rest of the city's meetings (including autonomous agencies). This would be really useful. I'm sure that if you can do audio and video links that you would be just as able to include pdf files of these documents. Anyone else think that this would be a great public service? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Great concept! posted Message 2765 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 13, 2004 at 20:01:05 Subject: Re: Cool content needed! good idea roar! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Real Scam posted Message 2766 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 13, 2004 at 20:02:59 Subject: Post Hudson County Agendas & Tanscripts Here is a better Idea Roar This is a a Hudson County Board -- If possible Anthony should post the agendas and meeting transcripts of all the Hudson County Government Agencies -- thats where the real scams are being run. Start with the Hudson COunty Improvement Authority. De Puppet will NEVER allow this to happen. : Anthony...you know what would be really cool on this board...if you would post the City Council agendas as well as the council caucus and meeting transcripts for all of us who can't make it to City Hall to pick them up. Ideally, we would get these agendas and transcripts for the rest of the city's meetings (including autonomous agencies). : This would be really useful. I'm sure that if you can do audio and video links that you would be just as able to include pdf files of these documents. : Anyone else think that this would be a great public service? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 2767 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 13, 2004 at 21:23:30 Subject: Re: Cool content needed! Thanks! I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities in JC as well as Hudson County. It would really benefit all of us. I don't know why Tom would not want the Hudson Co. stuff posted...it's public record isn't it? : good idea roar! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 2768 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 13, 2004 at 21:26:43 Subject: Re: Cool content needed! Ooops...that was supposed to have read "I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities within Hudson County as well as the Hudson County items". My bad...give me a break, it's kinda past my bedtime. : Thanks! I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities in JC as well as Hudson County. It would really benefit all of us. I don't know why Tom would not want the Hudson Co. stuff posted...it's public record isn't it? : : good idea roar! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 2769 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 14, 2004 at 07:10:57 Subject: Re: Cool content needed! :: What I want everyone to know is the reason why I think posting all the agendas to all the City Council meetings is cool is because I'm a dork with no life. : Ooops...that was supposed to have read "I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities within Hudson County as well as the Hudson County items". My bad...give me a break, it's kinda past my bedtime. : : Thanks! I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities in JC as well as Hudson County. It would really benefit all of us. I don't know why Tom would not want the Hudson Co. stuff posted...it's public record isn't it? : : : good idea roar! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miguel posted Message 2770 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 14, 2004 at 10:10:38 Subject: Roar We Know You Are a Dork Roar We know you are a Dork with No Life. Thats a Given. Wake up and smell the coffee. Tom DeGise is nothing more than a HCDO Puppet who is doing harm to Hudson County. DeGise is a continuation of the Bobby J way of administrating County funds. Buying off the City Council members with high paying county jobs is a disgrace and disruptive to good government. : :: What I want everyone to know is the reason why I think posting all the agendas to all the City Council meetings is cool is because I'm a dork with no life. : : Ooops...that was supposed to have read "I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities within Hudson County as well as the Hudson County items". My bad...give me a break, it's kinda past my bedtime. : : : Thanks! I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities in JC as well as Hudson County. It would really benefit all of us. I don't know why Tom would not want the Hudson Co. stuff posted...it's public record isn't it? : : : : good idea roar! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 2771 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 14, 2004 at 10:49:05 Subject: Re: Roar We Know You Are a Dork Miguel...what can I say...you are some piece of work. I posted this because I thought it would be a great place for citizens to come download agendas and meeting transcripts. Since my municipality (JC) can't seem to get a clue about what should and should not be on a municipal website, this site is a great substitute however, people like you who sit and do nothing but criticise others and then blast me for making a suggestion that I think would benefit many people, who like myself, cannot get to City Hall to pick these up during business hours as we have jobs to be at. You may think I am a dork with no life but you haven't contributed anything except rumour and inuendo everywhere you have posted, including my Yahoo group. If you don't like Tom, then YOU run against him in the next election. I would love to see what you could bring to the table aside from conspiracy theories. I frankly don't care about who is whose puppet...I just want to be able to know what is on the agenda and what happened in the meetings that I can't attend. I'm quite sure others would like this info as well. You, my cowardly critic, would rather be kept like a mushroom (in the dark and fed_______...you fill in the blank). If you have a problem with people wanting to know what is going on where they live, then you should learn to express yourself far better than you did in your post. : Roar We know you are a Dork with No Life. Thats a Given. Wake up and smell the coffee. Tom DeGise is nothing more than a HCDO Puppet who is doing harm to Hudson County. DeGise is a continuation of the Bobby J way of administrating County funds. : Buying off the City Council members with high paying county jobs is a disgrace and disruptive to good government. : : : :: What I want everyone to know is the reason why I think posting all the agendas to all the City Council meetings is cool is because I'm a dork with no life. : : : Ooops...that was supposed to have read "I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities within Hudson County as well as the Hudson County items". My bad...give me a break, it's kinda past my bedtime. : : : : Thanks! I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities in JC as well as Hudson County. It would really benefit all of us. I don't know why Tom would not want the Hudson Co. stuff posted...it's public record isn't it? : : : : : good idea roar! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 2772 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 14, 2004 at 11:45:22 Subject: Re: Cool content needed! Below quote was not by me...it must be sooooo very cute to imitate someone. You know what they say though...imitiation is the sincerest form of flattery! What I want everyone to know is the reason why I think posting all the agendas to all the City Council meetings is cool is because I'm a dork with no life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 2773 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 14, 2004 at 12:44:20 Subject: Re: Roar We Know You Are a Dork : Your Yahoo Forum has had about as much life in the last 6 months as one of Bill Gaughan's corpses. : Miguel...what can I say...you are some piece of work. I posted this because I thought it would be a great place for citizens to come download agendas and meeting transcripts. Since my municipality (JC) can't seem to get a clue about what should and should not be on a municipal website, this site is a great substitute however, people like you who sit and do nothing but criticise others and then blast me for making a suggestion that I think would benefit many people, who like myself, cannot get to City Hall to pick these up during business hours as we have jobs to be at. : You may think I am a dork with no life but you haven't contributed anything except rumour and inuendo everywhere you have posted, including my Yahoo group. If you don't like Tom, then YOU run against him in the next election. I would love to see what you could bring to the table aside from conspiracy theories. : I frankly don't care about who is whose puppet...I just want to be able to know what is on the agenda and what happened in the meetings that I can't attend. I'm quite sure others would like this info as well. You, my cowardly critic, would rather be kept like a mushroom (in the dark and fed_______...you fill in the blank). If you have a problem with people wanting to know what is going on where they live, then you should learn to express yourself far better than you did in your post. : : Roar We know you are a Dork with No Life. Thats a Given. Wake up and smell the coffee. Tom DeGise is nothing more than a HCDO Puppet who is doing harm to Hudson County. DeGise is a continuation of the Bobby J way of administrating County funds. : : Buying off the City Council members with high paying county jobs is a disgrace and disruptive to good government. : : : : : :: What I want everyone to know is the reason why I think posting all the agendas to all the City Council meetings is cool is because I'm a dork with no life. : : : : Ooops...that was supposed to have read "I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities within Hudson County as well as the Hudson County items". My bad...give me a break, it's kinda past my bedtime. : : : : : Thanks! I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities in JC as well as Hudson County. It would really benefit all of us. I don't know why Tom would not want the Hudson Co. stuff posted...it's public record isn't it? : : : : : : good idea roar! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 2774 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 14, 2004 at 12:51:06 Subject: Another flattering imitation post not by me You must really like imitating me...you are posting under my name again. Admittedly, the group has slowed to just below a crawl but I keep trying...what have you done lately? Why not try to do something positive and not so destructive...you would be happier if you had a postive outlook on life my friend. --The Real Roaring20s : : Your Yahoo Forum has had about as much life in the last 6 months as one of Bill Gaughan's corpses. ***************** End Of Article ****************** It's Medication Time posted Message 2775 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 14, 2004 at 14:06:32 Subject: Roar Stop Posting Roar Stop Posting to Yourself -- time to take your medication and give it a rest. : You must really like imitating me...you are posting under my name again. Admittedly, the group has slowed to just below a crawl but I keep trying...what have you done lately? Why not try to do something positive and not so destructive...you would be happier if you had a postive outlook on life my friend. : --The Real Roaring20s : : : Your Yahoo Forum has had about as much life in the last 6 months as one of Bill Gaughan's corpses. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 2776 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 14, 2004 at 14:15:39 Subject: Re: Roar Stop Posting And a suppository. --The Real Roaring20s : Roar Stop Posting to Yourself -- time to take your medication and give it a rest. : : : You must really like imitating me...you are posting under my name again. Admittedly, the group has slowed to just below a crawl but I keep trying...what have you done lately? Why not try to do something positive and not so destructive...you would be happier if you had a postive outlook on life my friend. : : --The Real Roaring20s : : : : Your Yahoo Forum has had about as much life in the last 6 months as one of Bill Gaughan's corpses. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amazed posted Message 2777 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 14, 2004 at 22:27:32 Subject: Re: Roar We Know You Are a Dork Its amazing that all of these Cunningham people now compare DeGise (who I dislike) to Janiszewski (who I despise). And then say DeGise is just another Bobby J....dishonest and corrupt. If that's so...then where the heck was Cunningham during Bobby J's dishonest days. Why no outcry then? Why no demands for his resignation then? Why now have Cunningham and his clan of holy rollers suddenly found the religion of honesty? And how deep is this well of concern for the people of Hudson County? If I had to guess...its only as deep as our pockets. And their interest in "serving the public good" will dry up when the money dries up. I mean look at the salaries these losers pay themselves. Do you think idiots like his Chief of Staff would make 90,000 per year driving a big rig? Or any of the other castaways on Cunningham's Island? DO you think these incompetent losers would have a snowballs chance in hell of landing jobs with the payrolls and perks they now collect? Only in Hudson folks....only in Hudson. : Roar We know you are a Dork with No Life. Thats a Given. Wake up and smell the coffee. Tom DeGise is nothing more than a HCDO Puppet who is doing harm to Hudson County. DeGise is a continuation of the Bobby J way of administrating County funds. : Buying off the City Council members with high paying county jobs is a disgrace and disruptive to good government. : : : :: What I want everyone to know is the reason why I think posting all the agendas to all the City Council meetings is cool is because I'm a dork with no life. : : : Ooops...that was supposed to have read "I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities within Hudson County as well as the Hudson County items". My bad...give me a break, it's kinda past my bedtime. : : : : Thanks! I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities in JC as well as Hudson County. It would really benefit all of us. I don't know why Tom would not want the Hudson Co. stuff posted...it's public record isn't it? : : : : : good idea roar! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rocket Scientist posted Message 2778 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 14, 2004 at 23:22:33 Subject: Don't be Amazed - BE DISGUSTED WITH DEGISE DeGise is the one squandering the Taxpayer's money on political buyoffs - MUCH MORE SO than any local municipality. FACE IT. WANT THE NUMBERS ???? The Largess of the County Payroll is UNBELIEVABLE ! DeGise is surrounded by the Bobby J blood s u c k ers and has added many of his own. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ! : Its amazing that all of these Cunningham people now compare DeGise (who I dislike) to Janiszewski (who I despise). And then say DeGise is just another Bobby J....dishonest and corrupt. If that's so...then where the heck was Cunningham during Bobby J's dishonest days. Why no outcry then? Why no demands for his resignation then? Why now have Cunningham and his clan of holy rollers suddenly found the religion of honesty? : And how deep is this well of concern for the people of Hudson County? If I had to guess...its only as deep as our pockets. And their interest in "serving the public good" will dry up when the money dries up. I mean look at the salaries these losers pay themselves. Do you think idiots like his Chief of Staff would make 90,000 per year driving a big rig? Or any of the other castaways on Cunningham's Island? DO you think these incompetent losers would have a snowballs chance in hell of landing jobs with the payrolls and perks they now collect? Only in Hudson folks....only in Hudson. : : : Roar We know you are a Dork with No Life. Thats a Given. Wake up and smell the coffee. Tom DeGise is nothing more than a HCDO Puppet who is doing harm to Hudson County. DeGise is a continuation of the Bobby J way of administrating County funds. : : Buying off the City Council members with high paying county jobs is a disgrace and disruptive to good government. : : : : : :: What I want everyone to know is the reason why I think posting all the agendas to all the City Council meetings is cool is because I'm a dork with no life. : : : : Ooops...that was supposed to have read "I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities within Hudson County as well as the Hudson County items". My bad...give me a break, it's kinda past my bedtime. : : : : : Thanks! I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities in JC as well as Hudson County. It would really benefit all of us. I don't know why Tom would not want the Hudson Co. stuff posted...it's public record isn't it? : : : : : : good idea roar! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Guess Who??????? posted Message 2779 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 15, 2004 at 23:54:22 Subject: Re: Perez Will Be The Hero : Those who know contend that Peter Perez will be the "Hero " of North Bergen once the Federal Indictment ireworks subside. : Apparently Nick Sacco and Herb Klitzner got caught on tape. : : Looks like Nick Sacco is going to have a problem. : : : : Former North Bergen : : Commissioner gets 6-month term for taking kickbacks : : : : The Associated Press : : 2/3/2004, 10:27 a.m. ET : : : : NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — A former member of the North Bergen governing body has been sentenced to six months in federal prison for accepting $26,000 worth of home improvements and cash from a vendor whose invoices he approved. : : : : Peter Perez was fined $5,000 and ordered to repay the $26,000 to the township under the sentence imposed Monday by U.S. District Judge Joseph A. Greenaway Jr. : : Perez, 43, could have received 18-24 months, but Greenaway gave less after Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey D. Clark certified that Perez provided prosecutors with substantial assistance. : : The sentencing was the latest development in the ongoing corruption investigation that snared several other officials of the Hudson County township, including its administrator, Joseph Auriemma. : : A heating and air conditioning contractor, Leonard Farinola, pleaded guilty in February to bribing several North Bergen officials, including Auriemma, in return for contracts. : : In July 2002, Perez resigned from the North Bergen governing body, the Board of Commissioners, and pleaded guilty to taking $26,000 in cash and home improvements from Farinola. : : The specifics of Perez's cooperation were in a letter from prosecutors that Greenaway sealed at Clark's request because of the continuing probe. : : Auriemma was sentenced in July to a three-year prison term for accepting cash and free home improvements from a vendor who did business with North Bergen. He must also repay $33,792 to the township, the value of the benefits he received, and pay a $7,500 fine. : : Joseph Hernandez, the former purchasing agent of the North Bergen Municipal Utilities Authority, was sentenced in October to a 30-month prison term for taking bribes from contractors. : : Excavation contractor Domenic Grano was sentenced in September to 21 months in prison and fined $4,000. He admitted he gave cash, a personal watercraft and free construction work to Hernandez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** scentura posted Message 2780 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 01:09:33 Subject: scentura scentura ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amazed posted Message 2781 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 01:11:35 Subject: Disgusted with them ALL There's no difference between Tommy and Glenn. Both are full of themselves and empty of ideas and vision. Both do a disservice to our community with the political garbage they drag into government. I never liked Bret much, but the political stupidity by these birds of a feather is exactly why Brett ruled the roost for 9 years. And with all of his people still slithering around City Hall, don't be surprised if he takes another shot at occupying the corner office at 280 Grove. : DeGise is the one squandering the Taxpayer's money on political buyoffs - MUCH MORE SO than any local municipality. FACE IT. WANT THE NUMBERS ???? The Largess of the County Payroll is UNBELIEVABLE ! : DeGise is surrounded by the Bobby J blood s u c k ers and has added many of his own. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ! : : : Its amazing that all of these Cunningham people now compare DeGise (who I dislike) to Janiszewski (who I despise). And then say DeGise is just another Bobby J....dishonest and corrupt. If that's so...then where the heck was Cunningham during Bobby J's dishonest days. Why no outcry then? Why no demands for his resignation then? Why now have Cunningham and his clan of holy rollers suddenly found the religion of honesty? : : And how deep is this well of concern for the people of Hudson County? If I had to guess...its only as deep as our pockets. And their interest in "serving the public good" will dry up when the money dries up. I mean look at the salaries these losers pay themselves. Do you think idiots like his Chief of Staff would make 90,000 per year driving a big rig? Or any of the other castaways on Cunningham's Island? DO you think these incompetent losers would have a snowballs chance in hell of landing jobs with the payrolls and perks they now collect? Only in Hudson folks....only in Hudson. : : : : : Roar We know you are a Dork with No Life. Thats a Given. Wake up and smell the coffee. Tom DeGise is nothing more than a HCDO Puppet who is doing harm to Hudson County. DeGise is a continuation of the Bobby J way of administrating County funds. : : : Buying off the City Council members with high paying county jobs is a disgrace and disruptive to good government. : : : : : : : :: What I want everyone to know is the reason why I think posting all the agendas to all the City Council meetings is cool is because I'm a dork with no life. : : : : : Ooops...that was supposed to have read "I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities within Hudson County as well as the Hudson County items". My bad...give me a break, it's kinda past my bedtime. : : : : : : Thanks! I do like the concept of posting everything from all municipalities in JC as well as Hudson County. It would really benefit all of us. I don't know why Tom would not want the Hudson Co. stuff posted...it's public record isn't it? : : : : : : : good idea roar! ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Halifax Real Estate Agent posted Message 2782 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 13:55:54 Subject: Halifax Real Estate Agent I am new to the internet and I did a search in the search engines on a "real estate forum" and I found your forum. Let me introduce myself, I am a Halifax Real Estate Agent in Nova Scotia, Canada and I was told that forums were discussions on specific topics which made me interested in searching for a real estate forum. It seemed like an interesting way to see what trends and technology are happening in the real estate market in other parts of the world besides Halifax. I am considering a forum for myself if I can understand the technology of operating a forum and from what I see I am somewhat hesitant right now even though it was interesting reading. Respectfully yours James B. , A Halifax Real Estate Agent ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2783 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 14:55:28 Subject: No show tonite due to 3 broken ribs. Yep broke 3 ribs last week i'm fine just not speaking to well just yet but i'll be back on the air Saturday @ noon. I'll combind Hudson County's Talking with a perview of my new show slated for the Saturday's at noon called Town Hall Meeting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DUE TO NO AUDIENCE! posted Message 2784 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 15:15:42 Subject: Re: No show tonite due to 3 broken ribs. WHO CARES PAT, YOUR A SPINELESS FOOL. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2785 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 15:37:44 Subject: Re: No show tonite due to 3 broken ribs. : WHO CARES PAT, YOUR A SPINELESS FOOL. Spineless you say? I see my email and my name attached to what ever i post here and twice a week i'm on the air giving my opinion, So that's spineless to you? Dickl*ss!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pat got a boo-boo .....bet in another DWI posted Message 2786 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 15:47:53 Subject: Re: No show tonite due to 3 broken ribs. YOU ARE RIGHT I AM DICKLESS.....LOL! A CHICK WITH A DICK WOULD BE MIGHTY SCAREY! ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Got High Hopes posted Message 2787 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 16:30:04 Subject: Pat - How Much Do You Charge Pat how much do you bill the County for the Community Information Commercials that are heard on you Radio Show ? Not that the County ever plans on paying you. Just wondering. : Yep broke 3 ribs last week i'm fine just not speaking to well just yet but i'll be back on the air Saturday @ noon. I'll combind Hudson County's Talking with a perview of my new show slated for the Saturday's at noon called Town Hall Meeting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WitchWanda posted Message 2788 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 18:01:21 Subject: A leopard doesn't change its spots You kiss your wife, mother & children with that foul mouth? You are an uncouth pig. : Spineless you say? I see my email and my name attached to what ever i post here and twice a week i'm on the air giving my opinion, So that's spineless to you? Dickl*ss!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** hate pat posted Message 2789 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 18:06:22 Subject: Who broke you rib pat? Who broke Pat's rib! Perhaps, Joe Doria farter while Pat was kissing his axx. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2790 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 19:06:17 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dawg posted Message 2791 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 19:17:51 Subject: Re: A leopard doesn't change its spots NO BIG DEAL...the all know, Pat drinks from the "potty" ***************** End Of Article ****************** ANSWER THE QUESTION PAT posted Message 2792 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 22:21:38 Subject: How Much Do You Charge Pat ? Pat tell us how much you are trying to soak the county for those radio spots !!! : Pat how much do you bill the County for the Community Information Commercials that are heard on you Radio Show ? : Not that the County ever plans on paying you. Just wondering. : : : Yep broke 3 ribs last week i'm fine just not speaking to well just yet but i'll be back on the air Saturday @ noon. I'll combind Hudson County's Talking with a perview of my new show slated for the Saturday's at noon called Town Hall Meeting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2793 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 16, 2004 at 22:49:34 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dawg posted Message 2794 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 17, 2004 at 07:37:09 Subject: Re: How Much Do You Charge Pat ? THE MAGIC WORD..........TRYING! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amazed posted Message 2795 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 17, 2004 at 16:05:03 Subject: Ayala...the 20-million dollar liability Ayala is at center of bond controversy Monday, February 16, 2004 The mayor's opponents are calling him "the $20 million man (boy)." The denigrating denizens of City Hall affixed the tag to Bill Ayala, chief of staff to Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, after the administration gave in to its City Council opponents in a bruising battle over the restructuring of the city's bond debts. Some City Hall sources say Ayala is to blame for the administration's turnaround in that conflict, claiming it could have been avoided if Ayala hadn't interfered when Jersey City Business Administrator Carlton McGee approached the City Council with an ordinance containing a similar debt restructuring scheme back in September. Back then, McGee hired Charlotte Knight Marshal and her Chicago-based financial firm to work out the details of the debt restructuring effort, but the administration didn't first ask City Council to approve her contract. Even so, some City Hall observers said that September ordinance still had a chance of getting by the City Council. But then Ayala objected to Knight Marshal's hiring, and even issued an e-mail to all city department directors, instructing them not to cooperate with or talk to her. Further, the administration blocked Knight Marshal's efforts to collect the $100,000 fee for her work on the debt restructuring plan. Without the support of the administration, the plan slipped into limbo. But just four months later, the mayor suddenly began forecasting visions of gloom and doom for the city, even bringing up that worst possible of scenarios for politicians - an increase in property taxes - unless the City Council went along with, what else? A debt restructuring plan. The council refused to go along with the mayor, pointing to a $28 million surplus that could be tapped to close any budget shortfall. Eventually, Cunningham submitted a budget that was balanced with $20 million drawn from the surplus. As for Knight Marshal, she eventually collected $90,000 from the city. Asked about his role in the matter, Ayala refused to back down. "My only regret," the pugnacious chief of staff said, "is I can't fire her all over again." Mayoral chiefs of staff are invariably unpopular figures in most administrations. It comes with the job: the chief of staff is usually the one designated by the mayor to keep department heads and other members of the mayor's cabinet in line. Ayala, while not being specific, said there could still be dire consequences from the final version of the budget that was forwarded to the city council for introduction. [solid box] [solid box] [solid box] Al Spivey, an aide to Cunningham who handled a number of political functions in City Hall, is gone. Spivey could not be reached for comment about his future plans, but mayoral spokesman Stan Eason said: "Mr. Spivey chose to leave to pursue opportunities in the private sector." One of Spivey's duties was turning out the crowds at City Council meetings when the administration wanted a measure passed but expected opposition from a majority of council members. It's not clear who in the administration will be taking Spivey's place, or if someone will be hired to fill the empty slot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Morgan Fan posted Message 2796 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 17, 2004 at 16:09:35 Subject: Re: Ayala...the 20-million dollar liability Bravo to Earl for getting this NUT Cracked. ********************** : Ayala is at center of bond controversy : Monday, February 16, 2004 : The mayor's opponents are calling him "the $20 million man (boy)." : The denigrating denizens of City Hall affixed the tag to Bill Ayala, chief of staff to Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, after the administration gave in to its City Council opponents in a bruising battle over the restructuring of the city's bond debts. : : Some City Hall sources say Ayala is to blame for the administration's turnaround in that conflict, claiming it could have been avoided if Ayala hadn't interfered when Jersey City Business Administrator Carlton McGee approached the City Council with an ordinance containing a similar debt restructuring scheme back in September. : Back then, McGee hired Charlotte Knight Marshal and her Chicago-based financial firm to work out the details of the debt restructuring effort, but the administration didn't first ask City Council to approve her contract. : Even so, some City Hall observers said that September ordinance still had a chance of getting by the City Council. But then Ayala objected to Knight Marshal's hiring, and even issued an e-mail to all city department directors, instructing them not to cooperate with or talk to her. : Further, the administration blocked Knight Marshal's efforts to collect the $100,000 fee for her work on the debt restructuring plan. : Without the support of the administration, the plan slipped into limbo. : But just four months later, the mayor suddenly began forecasting visions of gloom and doom for the city, even bringing up that worst possible of scenarios for politicians - an increase in property taxes - unless the City Council went along with, what else? A debt restructuring plan. : The council refused to go along with the mayor, pointing to a $28 million surplus that could be tapped to close any budget shortfall. Eventually, Cunningham submitted a budget that was balanced with $20 million drawn from the surplus. As for Knight Marshal, she eventually collected $90,000 from the city. : Asked about his role in the matter, Ayala refused to back down. "My only regret," the pugnacious chief of staff said, "is I can't fire her all over again." : Mayoral chiefs of staff are invariably unpopular figures in most administrations. It comes with the job: the chief of staff is usually the one designated by the mayor to keep department heads and other members of the mayor's cabinet in line. : Ayala, while not being specific, said there could still be dire consequences from the final version of the budget that was forwarded to the city council for introduction. [solid box] [solid box] [solid box] : Al Spivey, an aide to Cunningham who handled a number of political functions in City Hall, is gone. : Spivey could not be reached for comment about his future plans, but mayoral spokesman Stan Eason said: "Mr. Spivey chose to leave to pursue opportunities in the private sector." : One of Spivey's duties was turning out the crowds at City Council meetings when the administration wanted a measure passed but expected opposition from a majority of council members. : It's not clear who in the administration will be taking Spivey's place, or if someone will be hired to fill the empty slot. : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2797 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 17, 2004 at 18:52:04 Subject: Guide For Voting In Hudson County Please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** R.E. Callglenn posted Message 2798 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 17, 2004 at 20:30:39 Subject: Re: Ayala...the 20-million dollar liability SO what's this for Ayala? Strike 280? 290? How many screwups does this kid get before he's escorted to the door, or the gang plank? Wake up Sentaor....your Chief of Staff is an idiot. And the big problem here is that you both are too stupid to realize what a total failure he is in every sense. : Ayala is at center of bond controversy : Monday, February 16, 2004 : The mayor's opponents are calling him "the $20 million man (boy)." : The denigrating denizens of City Hall affixed the tag to Bill Ayala, chief of staff to Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, after the administration gave in to its City Council opponents in a bruising battle over the restructuring of the city's bond debts. : : Some City Hall sources say Ayala is to blame for the administration's turnaround in that conflict, claiming it could have been avoided if Ayala hadn't interfered when Jersey City Business Administrator Carlton McGee approached the City Council with an ordinance containing a similar debt restructuring scheme back in September. : Back then, McGee hired Charlotte Knight Marshal and her Chicago-based financial firm to work out the details of the debt restructuring effort, but the administration didn't first ask City Council to approve her contract. : Even so, some City Hall observers said that September ordinance still had a chance of getting by the City Council. But then Ayala objected to Knight Marshal's hiring, and even issued an e-mail to all city department directors, instructing them not to cooperate with or talk to her. : Further, the administration blocked Knight Marshal's efforts to collect the $100,000 fee for her work on the debt restructuring plan. : Without the support of the administration, the plan slipped into limbo. : But just four months later, the mayor suddenly began forecasting visions of gloom and doom for the city, even bringing up that worst possible of scenarios for politicians - an increase in property taxes - unless the City Council went along with, what else? A debt restructuring plan. : The council refused to go along with the mayor, pointing to a $28 million surplus that could be tapped to close any budget shortfall. Eventually, Cunningham submitted a budget that was balanced with $20 million drawn from the surplus. As for Knight Marshal, she eventually collected $90,000 from the city. : Asked about his role in the matter, Ayala refused to back down. "My only regret," the pugnacious chief of staff said, "is I can't fire her all over again." : Mayoral chiefs of staff are invariably unpopular figures in most administrations. It comes with the job: the chief of staff is usually the one designated by the mayor to keep department heads and other members of the mayor's cabinet in line. : Ayala, while not being specific, said there could still be dire consequences from the final version of the budget that was forwarded to the city council for introduction. [solid box] [solid box] [solid box] : Al Spivey, an aide to Cunningham who handled a number of political functions in City Hall, is gone. : Spivey could not be reached for comment about his future plans, but mayoral spokesman Stan Eason said: "Mr. Spivey chose to leave to pursue opportunities in the private sector." : One of Spivey's duties was turning out the crowds at City Council meetings when the administration wanted a measure passed but expected opposition from a majority of council members. : It's not clear who in the administration will be taking Spivey's place, or if someone will be hired to fill the empty slot. : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Laughing My A** Off posted Message 2799 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 17, 2004 at 20:40:22 Subject: Where is Guide for Petition Signing ? Where is the Guide in How to LEGALLY Sign a Nominating Petition ??? Get My Drift ??? : Please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Special Ed posted Message 2800 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 18, 2004 at 08:06:20 Subject: Re: Ayala...the 20-million dollar liability. Glenn is Stupid : SO what's this for Ayala? Strike 280? 290? How many screwups does this kid get before he's escorted to the door, or the gang plank? Wake up Sentaor....your Chief of Staff is an idiot. And the big problem here is that you both are too stupid to realize what a total failure he is in every sense. : : Ayala is at center of bond controversy : : Monday, February 16, 2004 : : The mayor's opponents are calling him "the $20 million man (boy)." : : The denigrating denizens of City Hall affixed the tag to Bill Ayala, chief of staff to Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, after the administration gave in to its City Council opponents in a bruising battle over the restructuring of the city's bond debts. : : : : Some City Hall sources say Ayala is to blame for the administration's turnaround in that conflict, claiming it could have been avoided if Ayala hadn't interfered when Jersey City Business Administrator Carlton McGee approached the City Council with an ordinance containing a similar debt restructuring scheme back in September. : : Back then, McGee hired Charlotte Knight Marshal and her Chicago-based financial firm to work out the details of the debt restructuring effort, but the administration didn't first ask City Council to approve her contract. : : Even so, some City Hall observers said that September ordinance still had a chance of getting by the City Council. But then Ayala objected to Knight Marshal's hiring, and even issued an e-mail to all city department directors, instructing them not to cooperate with or talk to her. : : Further, the administration blocked Knight Marshal's efforts to collect the $100,000 fee for her work on the debt restructuring plan. : : Without the support of the administration, the plan slipped into limbo. : : But just four months later, the mayor suddenly began forecasting visions of gloom and doom for the city, even bringing up that worst possible of scenarios for politicians - an increase in property taxes - unless the City Council went along with, what else? A debt restructuring plan. : : The council refused to go along with the mayor, pointing to a $28 million surplus that could be tapped to close any budget shortfall. Eventually, Cunningham submitted a budget that was balanced with $20 million drawn from the surplus. As for Knight Marshal, she eventually collected $90,000 from the city. : : Asked about his role in the matter, Ayala refused to back down. "My only regret," the pugnacious chief of staff said, "is I can't fire her all over again." : : Mayoral chiefs of staff are invariably unpopular figures in most administrations. It comes with the job: the chief of staff is usually the one designated by the mayor to keep department heads and other members of the mayor's cabinet in line. : : Ayala, while not being specific, said there could still be dire consequences from the final version of the budget that was forwarded to the city council for introduction. [solid box] [solid box] [solid box] : : Al Spivey, an aide to Cunningham who handled a number of political functions in City Hall, is gone. : : Spivey could not be reached for comment about his future plans, but mayoral spokesman Stan Eason said: "Mr. Spivey chose to leave to pursue opportunities in the private sector." : : One of Spivey's duties was turning out the crowds at City Council meetings when the administration wanted a measure passed but expected opposition from a majority of council members. : : It's not clear who in the administration will be taking Spivey's place, or if someone will be hired to fill the empty slot. : : Ayala is merely incompetent and malicious. He is a mean spirited and unqualified hunk of crap. Glenn is stupid beyond words. And it is Glenn who is responsible for this unqualified, inexperienced immature piece of garbage who is de facto Mayor of Jersey City. Glenn offered his services (Ayala) to the Lautenberg campaign, where he originally came from and the Lautenberg staffers said "Thanks, but No thanks." They did not want him even for free and at the expense of Jersey City Tax Payers. That's how highly they think of their former co-worker. Before working for Lautenberg, he was a truck driver from the time he graduated high school in 1987 until he went to work in Lautenberg's office. On staff with Lautenberg he was a gofer, and had no particular experience in any one area. Jack of all trades and master of none. That is his entire resume. He is currently attending law school at the expense of Jersey City and Glenn, thoughfully, is providing on the job training. Ayala gets to practice on the taxpayers and residents of Jersey City in preparation for his next move up the ladder ala the Peter Principal. He will continue to rise to the level of his own incompetence which appears to the limitless. He will do this at the expense of a monumentally stupid MayorMan who sets new records every day for STUPID. Ayala apparently is feathering his own nest on the other side of the political tracks and when Glenn goes down, it will be Ayala who will have driven the nails into the coffin of Senator Stupid. Jersey City's stupidest mayor in history. Just stupid and not nearly good enough. These morons are costing the city millions, and much more than just $20 Million. That was just the bond fiasco. There have been numerous others. We are talking Guiness Book of Records stupid. And is the entire responsibility of Mayor Man. STUPID : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** God Rest His Soul posted Message 2801 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 19, 2004 at 21:23:17 Subject: Charles Catrillo Passed Away Attorney Charles Catrillo - Republican Candidate for County Executive has passed away. God Rest His Soul. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2802 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 19, 2004 at 23:00:35 Subject: Re: Charles Catrillo Passed Away He was a nice person (to me). God speed Charlie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amazed posted Message 2803 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 20, 2004 at 10:00:50 Subject: Re: Charles Catrillo Passed Away Charlie was a good guy, always a gentleman...a rare thing in Hudson County. Rest easy Charlie...you will be missed. : He was a nice person (to me). : God speed Charlie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 2804 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 21, 2004 at 09:58:56 Subject: HCT on at noon today. Yes Hudson County's Talking is on at noon today! Topics, Hudson County to hire lobbyist to see if the lightrail can go from Hudson County to Xanadu? City of Jersey City to move office's to JSQ? Big up coming week for the Landmark Loews theatre, Plus we perview the new show Town Hall Meeting all this and more at noon WNSW 1430AM radio. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Too true to Bury Below posted Message 2805 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 21, 2004 at 10:05:53 Subject: Ayala is incompetent and Malicious Ayala is merely incompetent and malicious. He is a mean spirited and unqualified hunk of crap. Glenn is stupid beyond words. And it is Glenn who is responsible for this unqualified, inexperienced immature piece of garbage who is de facto Mayor of Jersey City. Glenn offered his services (Ayala) to the Lautenberg campaign, where he originally came from and the Lautenberg staffers said "Thanks, but No thanks." They did not want him even for free and at the expense of Jersey City Tax Payers. That's how highly they think of their former co-worker. Before working for Lautenberg, he was a truck driver from the time he graduated high school in 1987 until he went to work in Lautenberg's office. On staff with Lautenberg he was a gofer, and had no particular experience in any one area. Jack of all trades and master of none. That is his entire resume. He is currently attending law school at the expense of Jersey City and Glenn, thoughfully, is providing on the job training. Ayala gets to practice on the taxpayers and residents of Jersey City in preparation for his next move up the ladder ala the Peter Principal. He will continue to rise to the level of his own incompetence which appears to the limitless. He will do this at the expense of a monumentally stupid MayorMan who sets new records every day for STUPID. Ayala apparently is feathering his own nest on the other side of the political tracks and when Glenn goes down, it will be Ayala who will have driven the nails into the coffin of Senator Stupid. Jersey City's stupidest mayor in history. Just stupid and not nearly good enough. These morons are costing the city millions, and much more than just $20 Million. That was just the bond fiasco. There have been numerous others. We are talking Guiness Book of Records stupid. And is the entire responsibility of Mayor Man. STUPID : : : : SO what's this for Ayala? Strike 280? 290? How many screwups does this kid get before he's escorted to the door, or the gang plank? Wake up Sentaor....your Chief of Staff is an idiot. And the big problem here is that you both are too stupid to realize what a total failure he is in every sense. : : : Ayala is at center of bond controversy : : : Monday, February 16, 2004 : : : The mayor's opponents are calling him "the $20 million man (boy)." : : : The denigrating denizens of City Hall affixed the tag to Bill Ayala, chief of staff to Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, after the administration gave in to its City Council opponents in a bruising battle over the restructuring of the city's bond debts. : : : : : : Some City Hall sources say Ayala is to blame for the administration's turnaround in that conflict, claiming it could have been avoided if Ayala hadn't interfered when Jersey City Business Administrator Carlton McGee approached the City Council with an ordinance containing a similar debt restructuring scheme back in September. : : : Back then, McGee hired Charlotte Knight Marshal and her Chicago-based financial firm to work out the details of the debt restructuring effort, but the administration didn't first ask City Council to approve her contract. : : : Even so, some City Hall observers said that September ordinance still had a chance of getting by the City Council. But then Ayala objected to Knight Marshal's hiring, and even issued an e-mail to all city department directors, instructing them not to cooperate with or talk to her. : : : Further, the administration blocked Knight Marshal's efforts to collect the $100,000 fee for her work on the debt restructuring plan. : : : Without the support of the administration, the plan slipped into limbo. : : : But just four months later, the mayor suddenly began forecasting visions of gloom and doom for the city, even bringing up that worst possible of scenarios for politicians - an increase in property taxes - unless the City Council went along with, what else? A debt restructuring plan. : : : The council refused to go along with the mayor, pointing to a $28 million surplus that could be tapped to close any budget shortfall. Eventually, Cunningham submitted a budget that was balanced with $20 million drawn from the surplus. As for Knight Marshal, she eventually collected $90,000 from the city. : : : Asked about his role in the matter, Ayala refused to back down. "My only regret," the pugnacious chief of staff said, "is I can't fire her all over again." : : : Mayoral chiefs of staff are invariably unpopular figures in most administrations. It comes with the job: the chief of staff is usually the one designated by the mayor to keep department heads and other members of the mayor's cabinet in line. : : : Ayala, while not being specific, said there could still be dire consequences from the final version of the budget that was forwarded to the city council for introduction. [solid box] [solid box] [solid box] : : : Al Spivey, an aide to Cunningham who handled a number of political functions in City Hall, is gone. : : : Spivey could not be reached for comment about his future plans, but mayoral spokesman Stan Eason said: "Mr. Spivey chose to leave to pursue opportunities in the private sector." : : : One of Spivey's duties was turning out the crowds at City Council meetings when the administration wanted a measure passed but expected opposition from a majority of council members. : : : It's not clear who in the administration will be taking Spivey's place, or if someone will be hired to fill the empty slot. : : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** HAND JIVE posted Message 2806 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 22, 2004 at 16:50:22 Subject: Re: LET ME GUESS>>>A BMW WORTH 122,000.00 : : Glenn seen waxing it in Dickinson parking lot.....just kidding.....I think? You mean wacking it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2807 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 23, 2004 at 05:33:30 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show: Saturday, 02/21/04 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Guess Who posted Message 2808 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 23, 2004 at 12:47:25 Subject: City Council Investigation Glenn must resign Glenn has been asked to resign pending the outcome of a City Council Investigation. It seems that there have been some dirty tricks inside the Glenn machine and an informant has emerged. The City Council is now in negotiations with Ayala about taking over as temporary manager of the cities affairs. All present staff members will be asked to leave. Expect the political appointees around 60% of the City payroll to be removed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Never Gonna Happen posted Message 2809 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 23, 2004 at 17:34:31 Subject: Keep Dreaming Tom Gaynor Keep Dreaming Tom Gaynor and while you are at it continue fantazising about Nancy getting a County job from your good friend Tom Degise --- THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN EITHER !!!! : Glenn has been asked to resign pending the outcome of a City Council Investigation. It seems that there have been some dirty tricks inside the Glenn machine and an informant has emerged. The City Council is now in negotiations with Ayala about taking over as temporary manager of the cities affairs. All present staff members will be asked to leave. Expect the political appointees around 60% of the City payroll to be removed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sarah Whitehead posted Message 2810 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 24, 2004 at 00:14:47 Subject: Re: unemployment matter : Currently into yet another bad year for New Jersey residence. The urgency is very clear that the people of NJ need extended benefits available. We are loosing our homes and families. Every morning I look out my window there is yet another ' For Sale" sign, it's quite disturbing knowing that perhaps I'm next. As a singel mother of one child and going around a second time with unemployment in sixteen years living in the USA and the struggles of unemployment check's coming to an end next month, not to mention the ongoing lack of child support from my daughter's father who is living the large life driving a Mercedes Benz in living in a two family home in Elmwood Park while I and his child struggle to keep a roof over our heads. How long does it take for the system to work for me, I have been waiting for over five months for a single effort from the court's to decide when this man should step up to the responsibility of his child instead of allowing him to vacation for a month in Yugoslavia. The system is not working for the New Jersey residence and certainly not for me. I have never had to turn to the assistance of the State and am shocked and appalled that such matter's and negligence exist and no matter how many calls I make or how many attemtps to exist, it is impossible to get employment that can afford my mortgage and a car payment much less food, clothing and basic survival gear. If moving to another state is what's in order then it has only proven that the American dream no longer exisit. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2811 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 24, 2004 at 13:47:24 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show, 02/23/04 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WMD Ayala posted Message 2812 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 24, 2004 at 15:11:18 Subject: Glenn is a weapon of mass destruction The Glenn way of doing things is to break it then claim it needs fixing. Of course it takes a couple of years before he figures it is broken to begin with. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJ Senate Democrats - Jim Manion posted Message 2813 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 24, 2004 at 16:05:53 Subject: CUNNINGHAM READY TO REVIEW STATE BUDGET Feb. 24, 2004 RELEASE: Immediate CONTACT: Jim Manion Tel: (609) 292-5215 CUNNINGHAM READY TO REVIEW STATE BUDGET TRENTON - Senator Glenn D. Cunningham, D-Jersey City, made the following comments today after listening to Governor McGreevey's budget address. As a member of the Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee, the Senator from the 31st District now begins the critical review process of scrutinizing the budget proposal before recommending a budget bill for the entire Legislature to consider in time for the new fiscal year beginning July 1. "In these economic times, I was impressed that the Governor was able to find $25 million in additional aid to municipalities. As a Mayor, I know the problems local governments face with property taxes. "A statewide increase of $200 million for direct public school aid properly places the State's priorities with the educational needs of our children. I also found it commendable that $15 million will be designated for school districts which demonstrate efficiencies or which are growing rapidly or have high concentrations of poverty. "Of critical importance are the provisions for fully funding FamilyCare, Medicaid dental services and the pharmaceutical assistance program for the elderly and the disabled. "And, I will strongly support the effort to provide adequate funding for the DYFS reforms needed to protect children who are at risk. I consider the responsibility to provide for children in need to be one of the highest callings we have as public officials. "I look forward to participating in my first budget review process with Senator (Wayne) Bryant (Chairman) and the rest of the committee. I will be looking to see if there is any additional funding available for Hudson County in terms of grants or aid for economic development. "I listened carefully to a well delivered speech by the Governor today and I may have heard an opportunity for the citizens of Jersey City when he mentioned 'Taxpayer Hero' grants for mayors who hold the line on property taxes. I owe it to the Jersey City residents in my Senate district to point out to the Governor that we've held the line on taxes in Jersey City for three straight years." # ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan H. Eason posted Message 2814 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 25, 2004 at 08:45:00 Subject: State Senator Glenn D. Cunningham commended the bold and tough decisions announced today made by Governor James McGreevey Senator Glenn D. Cunningham 31st Legislative District February 24, 2004 For Immediate Release Contact: Stan H. Eason (201) 376-2788 TRENTON – State Senator Glenn D. Cunningham commended the bold and tough decisions announced today made by Governor James McGreevey that promised increased municipal aid and ordered and infusion of funding and programs to support the public school system. Cunningham, who was sworn in just a month ago as Jersey City’s first Mayor to become State Senator of the 31st District, was amongst three other senators who escorted McGreevey to the podium as he prepared to present his third budget to the legislature. His $26.2 millions budget concentrates heavily on education, children’s welfare and smart spending. “This is a strong budget, one that continues to focus on our children in the foster care system and in the public and private educational systems,” Cunningham said. “But the budget will also support the development of new businesses, something that has allowed New Jersey to be less affected by the depressed national economy.” Cunningham, who is a member of the Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee, said that despite the fact that New Jersey has been the top job creator in the Northeast with some 53,000 created in 2003, the Governor recognizes that municipalities still need assistance. “The governor has put an additional $25 million in the budget for aid to municipalities, which demonstrates his connection to the needs of municipalities who have unique problems in their communities but are still struggling to make ends meet,” Cunningham said. McGreevey drew a firm line in the sand to the legislature, stating, “I’m prepared to veto any budget that doesn’t do right by our children.” He backed it up by putting $200 million in increased aid to the public school system. “By focusing on the needs of our schools is in effect focusing on our future, which is our children,” Cunningham said. “The reforms taken already by the Governor and his administration in child welfare, particularly the Division of Family and Youth Services (DYFS) will only be enhanced by the increased funding to support that organization. While concentrating on providing at least an average of 3 percent increase in aid to all public school systems, McGreevey spoke of giving credit and assistance to the Taxpayer Heroes in the state in the way of grants for mayors who have held the line on property tax increases. As Mayor, Cunningham has not raised taxes in three straight years, the stint of his term in Jersey City. Cunningham admits his eagerness to participate in his first budget review with the committee, which is chaired by Senator Wayne Bryant. “Structuring a budget for a municipality is a difficult task, but taking part in the budget process that impacts the entire state is as much an honor as it is a tremendous responsibility,” Cunningham said. “I’m eager to contribute and make a bright impact for the residents of the 31st District and all residents of the state.”// ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kelley Heck posted Message 2815 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 25, 2004 at 09:32:26 Subject: SENATE MAJORITY LEADER RESPONDS TO BUDGET ADDRESS February 24, 2004 FOR RELEASE: Immediate CONTACT: Kelley Heck Tel: (609) 292-5215 SENATE MAJORITY LEADER RESPONDS TO BUDGET ADDRESS Kenny says "tough choices and tight wallets" have paid off for NJ residents TRENTON - Senate Majority Leader Bernie Kenny, D-Hudson and member of the Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee, issued the following comments today in response to the Governor's Address on the Fiscal Year 2005 State Budget Proposal: "In this Budget proposal, we're finally seeing the tough choices and tight wallets of the past couple of years pay off. It's evident today that New Jersey residents are going to start reaping some of the benefits of a state government that has been dedicated to responsible fiscal policy. This is a budget of enhancement and a budget of turning points. "Despite a stagnant national economy, New Jersey's economy is improving every day. We've created more new businesses in the past 2 years than the rest of the northeast combined, and tens of thousands of new jobs that have kept our unemployment consistently below that of the national average. These accomplishments are due, in part, to our reform of the corporate business tax two years ago. "I'm looking forward to working with my colleagues over the next several months in ensuring that the final Budget best meets the needs of working families in New Jersey. However, I'd say it looks like we are off to a very good start this time around." ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bernie Kenny's Kickback Artist posted Message 2816 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 25, 2004 at 09:49:18 Subject: Hey Bernie Tell us About Joe Barry Hey Bernie - Why not respond to how you got all the Federal and State Funding for your pal Joe Barry !!! How much did YOU GET IN THAT BUDGET ???? Bernard Kenny Jr. - Like Father Like Son : February 24, 2004 : FOR RELEASE: Immediate : CONTACT: Kelley Heck : Tel: (609) 292-5215 : SENATE MAJORITY LEADER RESPONDS TO BUDGET ADDRESS : Kenny says "tough choices and tight wallets" have paid off for NJ residents : TRENTON - Senate Majority Leader Bernie Kenny, D-Hudson and member of the Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee, issued the following comments today in response to the Governor's Address on the Fiscal Year 2005 State Budget Proposal: : "In this Budget proposal, we're finally seeing the tough choices and tight wallets of the past couple of years pay off. It's evident today that New Jersey residents are going to start reaping some of the benefits of a state government that has been dedicated to responsible fiscal policy. This is a budget of enhancement and a budget of turning points. : "Despite a stagnant national economy, New Jersey's economy is improving every day. We've created more new businesses in the past 2 years than the rest of the northeast combined, and tens of thousands of new jobs that have kept our unemployment consistently below that of the national average. These accomplishments are due, in part, to our reform of the corporate business tax two years ago. : "I'm looking forward to working with my colleagues over the next several months in ensuring that the final Budget best meets the needs of working families in New Jersey. However, I'd say it looks like we are off to a very good start this time around." : ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rip Van Winkle posted Message 2817 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 25, 2004 at 16:15:03 Subject: YAWN !!! As if anyone in Trenton cares what that bozo Cunningham thinks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sister Epps posted Message 2818 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 25, 2004 at 20:04:25 Subject: Re: YAWN !!! Just a thought..maybe while in Trenton Glenn Cunningham can swing by the D.O.E. No child left behind is in full swing....possibly they can help Con-Man with his speaking skills. Okkie dookie Glenn...are you ready:Lesson 1 See spot run Run spot run ***************** End Of Article ****************** Julia Sourray posted Message 2819 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 26, 2004 at 11:00:04 Subject: My vacation The heavily forested area, with its innumerable lakes and swift rivers, supports large-scale lumbering, pulp and paper-milling, and mining operations, hydroelectric installations, and an important tourist industry. Two provincial parks, Laurentides and Mont Tremblant, are popular vacation areas easily accessible from Montreal and Quebec. The name Laurentian is also sometimes applied to the Canadian Shield (Laurentian Shield), which extends over most of eastern Canada and of which this range is part. tremblant rental ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2820 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 26, 2004 at 14:00:27 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan Eason posted Message 2821 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 27, 2004 at 16:51:06 Subject: Senator Blasts “Land of Make Believe” Link Senator Blasts “Land of Make Believe” Link “Xanadu is a Don’t - Will Hurt Local Business” ***************** End Of Article ****************** Xanadu = Menendez Money Maker posted Message 2822 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 27, 2004 at 19:24:12 Subject: Glenn Is Right Senator Cunningham is correct. Xanadu is nothing more than a money making scheme for Menendez and his friends. : Senator Blasts “Land of Make Believe” Link : “Xanadu is a Don’t - Will Hurt Local Business” ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kubla Khan posted Message 2823 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 27, 2004 at 22:29:02 Subject: Glenn is a knave In Xanadu did Kubla Khan A stately pleasure-dome decree : Where Alph, the sacred river, ran Through caverns measureless to man Down to a sunless sea. So twice five miles of fertile ground With walls and towers were girdled round : And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills, Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree ; And here were forests ancient as the hills, Enfolding sunny spots of greenery. But oh ! that deep romantic chasm which slanted Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover ! A savage place ! as holy and enchanted As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted By woman wailing for her demon-lover ! And from this chasm, with ceaseless turmoil seething, As if this earth in fast thick pants were breathing, A mighty fountain momently was forced : Amid whose swift half-intermitted burst Huge fragments vaulted like rebounding hail, Or chaffy grain beneath the thresher's flail : And 'mid these dancing rocks at once and ever It flung up momently the sacred river. Five miles meandering with a mazy motion Through wood and dale the sacred river ran, Then reached the caverns measureless to man, And sank in tumult to a lifeless ocean : And 'mid this tumult Kubla heard from far Ancestral voices prophesying war ! The shadow of the dome of pleasure Floated midway on the waves ; Where was heard the mingled measure From the fountain and the caves. It was a miracle of rare device, A sunny pleasure-dome with caves of ice ! A damsel with a dulcimer In a vision once I saw : It was an Abyssinian maid, And on her dulcimer she played, Singing of Mount Abora. Could I revive within me Her symphony and song, To such a deep delight 'twould win me, That with music loud and long, I would build that dome in air, That sunny dome ! those caves of ice ! And all who heard should see them there, And all should cry, Beware ! Beware ! His flashing eyes, his floating hair ! Weave a circle round him thrice, And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honey-dew hath fed, And drunk the milk of Paradise. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO posted Message 2824 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 28, 2004 at 14:07:51 Subject: Re: Glenn is a knave WOW....you have way to much time on your hands! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kubla Khan posted Message 2825 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 28, 2004 at 17:52:32 Subject: Haven't you read ... your Samuel Taylor Coleridge today ? : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Olivia Newton John posted Message 2826 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 28, 2004 at 17:59:54 Subject: Re: Haven't you read ... Nope, behind in my reading...lol ;0) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let's get physical posted Message 2827 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 28, 2004 at 22:17:49 Subject: Re: Haven't you read ... How can Cunningham dis Xanadu? He always had a thing for white blondes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 2828 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 29, 2004 at 08:50:41 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired So what is the real scoop on this Dorf guy! Did he really get fired? Did he really put his nose into others business? Does he really live off daddy's money? Are these groupies that have written such positive stuff about him just love sick goo goo eyed puppies for this guy? What is the real scoop on this Dorf guy? Tell me please : : : :: I thought his hair & goatee made him look like a potential candidate for the lead in a revival of Damn Yankees. : : : : : : : Is it a coincidence that once Brian Dorf was fired that Cunningham has been on a winning streak? : : Hmmmm .. I believe someone is totally out of touch because Brian's hair and goatee are very nice and he wears them very well .. I do find your childish comments extremely immature and disgusting and hope your political campaign goes down the political pipes of Jersey really fast : I believe the childish and disgusting remarks made about Brian Dorf's appearance are just typical of the childish behavior that Ayala and all the other idiots pathetic losers that are on this campaign. From what I see, Brian Dorf is an utmost professional classy guy with a great look and great mind. His hair and goatee make him a very handsome and distinguished gentleman. He is sharp, independent, a great writer, and very professional. I hope that Ayala will soon go down the political pipes of jersey city ... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Come Back Little Sheebah posted Message 2829 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 29, 2004 at 13:15:57 Subject: Between The Lines It's easy to read between these lines. Fool me once Shame on You ................ How can Cunningham dis Xanadu? : He always had a thing for white blondes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2830 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 29, 2004 at 13:51:51 Subject: NJN Video: The June 02 Primary for County Executive To view the NJN Video Online, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ?????????????????? posted Message 2831 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : February 29, 2004 at 20:34:29 Subject: Re: Between The Lines Give us a clue. What's between the lines? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2832 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 01, 2004 at 10:04:53 Subject: Re: Between The Lines : Give us a clue. : What's between the lines? :: The words silly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gimmeabreak posted Message 2833 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 01, 2004 at 18:00:26 Subject: Re: Between The Lines Must be in BIG TYPE if Glenn can read it...lol : : Give us a clue. : : What's between the lines? : :: The words silly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No child left behind posted Message 2834 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 01, 2004 at 18:58:11 Subject: Re: Between The Lines : Must be no more than four letters if Glenn WANTS to can read it. : Must be in BIG TYPE if Glenn can read it...lol : : : Give us a clue. : : : What's between the lines? : : :: The words silly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO posted Message 2835 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 01, 2004 at 21:48:32 Subject: Pat the Radio J erk ! I laughed out loud at Pat's caller tonight. The caller was 1000% correct in exposing Boss Menendez's twisted political agenda. Pat was hesitant but admittted Menendez is the guy pulling DeGise & Gaugham's stings trying to grab all the county patronage. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez posted Message 2836 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 02, 2004 at 07:06:59 Subject: Is it true? Is it true that Menendez set up a funny Corporation based in spain to get the money from the Xanadu Project developers? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2837 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 02, 2004 at 08:30:06 Subject: Tom DeGise is his own man Hudson County is very fortunate to have Tom as their County Executive.Time will prove me right.He is also very Loyal and is as honest as the day is long.What more could you want.A honest man with brains. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dirty Neck White Trash posted Message 2838 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 02, 2004 at 12:03:11 Subject: DeGise Should Brush His Teeth Tell your loyal buddy Tom Degise to brush his teeth and start using the shower he installed in his office at taxpayers expense. Obviously he doesn't even have a shower at his home. Degise Family Outhouse ! Hudson County is very fortunate to have Tom as their County Executive.Time will prove me right.He is also very Loyal and is as honest as the day is long.What more could you want.A honest man with brains. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Money Machine posted Message 2839 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 02, 2004 at 12:04:34 Subject: Anything is Possible : Is it true that Menendez set up a funny Corporation based in spain to get the money from the Xanadu Project developers? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kenny Is Desperate posted Message 2840 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 02, 2004 at 12:57:03 Subject: Looking For Sympathy Life's Work of Rebuilding a Family Reputation By CHRIS HEDGES Published: March 2, 2004 NEW YORK TIMES TRENTON AT the age of 10, with the father he idolized locked away in a federal prison for corruption, State Senator Bernard F. Kenny Jr. embarked on a mission that would consume his life - restoring honor to his family name. "I remember going to school the day he was convicted," he said. "His picture was on the front page of The Jersey Journal. All the others kids talked about it. My mother and I had to go up to the federal prison in Danbury, Conn., over the next year to visit him. We would stay in small hotels in Danbury. It is where I saw the movie "The Spirit of St. Louis." As the chairman of the Jersey City Redevelopment Authority, his father was convicted of handing work to his former construction firm in exchange for kickbacks. When his father was released, the conviction was rarely discussed. It was only 20 years later, after the senator had dug through the files and read the trial transcripts, that he dared to bring up the sordid event with his father. "It was devastating for him," said Mr. Kenny, 57, New Jersey's Senate majority leader, seated in his wood-paneled office in the State House. "He was an extraordinarily talented guy, a great athlete, a fine singer, well liked, but the conviction prevented him for being accepted in the places he wanted to be accepted." The son, who is now turning his attention to Gov. James E. McGreevey's latest state budget, has clearly achieved that acceptance. It is Senator Kenny, along with a handful of other powerful state Democratic leaders, whom the governor is expected to ask to shepherd a so-called millionaire's tax through the Assembly and the Senate. It is intended to raise property taxes on the state's wealthiest homeowners and lower the burden on others. The governor, who announced his budget but has yet to formally endorse a campaign for the tax, hopes that the tax will provide about $750 million in property tax relief from the $17 billion levy raised through property taxes by local governments. New Jersey has the highest property taxes in the nation. The senator speaks slowly and with a soft affability. He is known as a patient, methodical leader, who last year was named by New Jersey Monthly magazine as the politician "most trusted by fellow legislators." The word trust was not lost on him. His experience with his father does not seem to have left vestiges of bitterness, perhaps because the name has been resurrected. He said he knew early on in life that he had to "confront these demons." This is what drove him into the public arena. He went to law school. When he graduated he applied for a job in the Hudson County prosecutor's office, an office that had thick files on his father and other powerful politicians bearing the Kenny name. He sat in the office, facing James O'Halloran, the county prosecutor, who later became a Superior Court judge. "I know I am a Kenny," he remembers telling Mr. O'Halloran, "and there are a number of files in this office with the Kenny name on them. But I would appreciate an opportunity to work here.'' His voice dips as he remembers the response. "Is this your résumé or your father's?" he was asked, followed by the words, "You are hired." "He gave me a chance," Mr. Kenny said. "He cared. I have always tried to do for others what he did for me in my own life." When Mr. Kenny was sworn in to the General Assembly in 1988, his father, ill with cancer, watched from the balcony. The ravages of the disease were so severe that his father had to be driven to and from the ceremony. "I told him afterwards, I did this for you," Senator Kenny said. "He said, 'I know.' " Two months later his father was dead. "This is why I am here, for the vindication of my family," he said. "It was all about being employed by the government, about being accepted. I have my father's name." Perhaps not surprisingly, the senator says it is the individual that fascinates him, the figure who can rise above the throngs and make a difference. His father, he said, had this ability. He admires Abraham Lincoln and is known to quote from Lincoln's second inaugural address. I AM fascinated by those individuals who can make a difference in history," he said. "If it were not for Lincoln we might not be the country we are today. We might be three or four countries. Individuals in all walks of life can make a profound difference in families or communities. It is the individual; ultimately, that is the driving force in history." Senator Kenny and his wife, Roberta, a schoolteacher, have three children and have lived in Hoboken for 30 years. It is not the life his mother had encouraged him to build when he went to law school. "She told me to move to Summit and get a job in the suburbs," he joked. But he was in pursuit of another goal. And as he walks the hall of the State House, his colleagues see one Bernard F. Kenny, while he sees two. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nice Website You Run Here Anthony posted Message 2841 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 02, 2004 at 16:31:27 Subject: Re: Your Mom Would Be So Proud : Tell your loyal buddy Tom Degise to brush his teeth and start using the shower he installed in his office at taxpayers expense. : Obviously he doesn't even have a shower at his home. : Degise Family Outhouse ! : : Hudson County is very fortunate to have Tom as their County Executive.Time will prove me right.He is also very Loyal and is as honest as the day is long.What more could you want.A honest man with brains. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TomGaynor posted Message 2842 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 03, 2004 at 08:43:48 Subject: Schundler beats Cunningham -Head Too Head Hang on Jersey City Taxpayers, Help is on the Way.Poll has Bret Beating the Mayor -Man easily.The Sun is starting to shine again on Jersey City And its Taxpayers.Amen. ***************** End Of Article ****************** New Jersey Senate Democrats posted Message 2843 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 03, 2004 at 10:01:00 Subject: Cunningham Supports Pro-Family/Whistleblower Measures In Committee FOR RELEASE: Immediate March 2, 2004 CONTACT: Jason Butkowski Tel: (609) 292-5215 Fax: (609) 984-1235 Cunningham Supports Pro-Family/Whistleblower Measures In Committee Vice Chair of Senate Labor Committee Applauds Passage of Bills TRENTON - Senator Glenn D. Cunningham said today that he supports measures that were approved by the Senate Labor Committee yesterday which would strengthen protections for whistleblowers and provide additional aid to working families in the State. "Being able to work on measures such as those that we approved yesterday, which will have an impact throughout the State, is very rewarding," said Senator Cunningham, D-Hudson, the Vice Chair of the Senate Labor Committee. "Because of our work, those who seek to right injustice in the workplace will be notified of the protections granted to them by the State, pregnant workers will be notified of their rights regarding temporary disability benefits, and families who have lost a loved one won't have to worry about financial burdens thanks to workers' compensation survivor benefits." The first bill, S-276, sponsored by Senators John Adler and Nia Gill, would require employers to give an annual written notice to employees of their rights under the "Conscientious Employee Protection Act," which is designed to foster whistleblowers from coming forward without the threat of retaliatory action from their employers. "Under current law, these conscientious watchdogs are granted protections from retaliation, but those protections do little good if employees are kept in the dark about them," said Senator Cunningham, "By keeping employees informed of their rights, we would be forging a climate where employees are more likely to come forward when they feel that their company is at fault." The second bill, S-488, sponsored by Senators Barbara Buono and Joseph Vitale, would require that employers notify pregnant workers regarding their eligibility for temporary disability benefits, The bill would require employers to prominently post notices as to whether or not the employer participates in a temporary disability insurance (TDI) program under the "Temporary Disability Benefits Law." The measure would also require employers to describe the TDI benefits available and that pregnancy is regarded under law as a disability, entitling pregnant employees to TDI benefits to the same extent as other disabled employees. "For many families on limited means, a pregnancy can be a curse rather than a blessing," said Senator Cunningham. "However, thanks to the State's Temporary Disability Benefits law,' and other measures designed to aid working mothers, that doesn't have to be the case. These programs, though, are woefully underutilized, and an aggressive education campaign is required to inform many in New Jersey if their lawful entitlements." The final bill, 5-1187, would reinstate the cost of living increase for survivor's benefits through workers' compensation to the surviving spouses of workers who died after 1980. The cost of living increases had been in place prior to 1980, but were removed in worker compensation legislation enacted in 1980. The bill would also extend the time period surviving spouses could collect the benefit should they choose to remarry. "Widows and widowers should not be penalized because their spouses died after a certain date, or because they chose to remarry," said Senator Cunningham. "This bill addresses a disparity in the amount paid for survivors benefits, and puts everyone on a more even footing, while making adjustments to recognize that the benefits received in 1980 don't go as far as they used to in this inflated economy. These benefits are intended for helping the surviving family members make ends meet after the loss of a bread winner in their homes, and these reforms will allow the program to help those in need." All three bills now head to the full Senate for consideration. ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2844 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 03, 2004 at 11:06:07 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of March 1, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Whistleblower posted Message 2845 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 03, 2004 at 16:05:47 Subject: Cunningham the hypocrite. Let's blow the whistle on all the sweetheart deals and no-bid contracts that Cardwell, Jackson, Drayton, etal are getting from Mayor Man. Troy Washington thought he was going to grease the palms of these guys at the JCHA. Now Troy and others are going to the slammer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Klaus Von Bulow posted Message 2846 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 03, 2004 at 16:09:14 Subject: Wondering. I betya good ole Tom wants a Department Director's job if Bret gets back in. Think he'll get it ? Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just Look At Him posted Message 2847 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 03, 2004 at 21:00:16 Subject: DeGise Is a Dirt Bag It is sooooooooo obvious that County Executive Tom DeGise is a low life dirt bag. JUST LOOK AT HIM - One picture is worth a thousand words. Why did he install a shower in the county exec's office - BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE IN HIS HOUSE -- DUH !!! Hudson County is very fortunate to have Tom as their County Executive.Time will prove me right.He is also very Loyal and is as honest as the day is long.What more could you want.A honest man with brains. ***************** End Of Article ****************** And tells him to get a life. posted Message 2848 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 04, 2004 at 06:17:26 Subject: Schundler beats Tom Gaynor in the head Even the Bretmeister is getting sick of this idiot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2849 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 04, 2004 at 07:51:09 Subject: Politicsandpayoffs.com-is worth the read Very interesting reading i just had this morning.Take the time to read this report on the Mayor -Man. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2850 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 04, 2004 at 08:43:44 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** O' gee happy, happy, joy, joy! posted Message 2851 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 04, 2004 at 12:33:55 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of March 1, 2004 : To access the Online barfbag, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stupid Public Service Announcements posted Message 2852 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 04, 2004 at 14:00:37 Subject: Hw Much Is Pat Trying to Bill The County For ??? How much is Pat TRYING to bill the County OF Hudson for those stupid Public Service Commercials that he runs ??? Anyone can see though Pat's scam to bilk the Taxpayers. Tell us Pat -- How Much is Each Commercial Costing Us ??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Guess Who posted Message 2853 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 04, 2004 at 22:48:49 Subject: Glenn will leave the mayors job due to on going investigation The City Council has found numerous instances of abuse by the Cunnigham Administration and plans to issue subpoenas to several key officials. Mr. Ayala will be first on the list and records of his personal banking statements have been requested by the State Appointed Investigator requested by the Council. Guess what they will find Ayala's hand was in the till and now that same hand may point to Glenn and others. Where is the money gentlemen ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2854 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 05, 2004 at 04:13:06 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Husband missed the show Monday posted Message 2855 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 05, 2004 at 06:35:12 Subject: Thank goodness for online audio I had the candles lit, the wine chilled and a fire blazing in the fireplace in nervous anticipation of the pleasures to follow but the love of my life had to work far into the night. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pat's Sultry Sex Broadcasts posted Message 2856 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 05, 2004 at 10:39:11 Subject: Sounds like a Cialis Weekend My my my thanks to online audio of Pat's sultry Broadcast it appears that you and " yours " are going to have a "Cialis weekend". : I had the candles lit, the wine chilled and a fire blazing in the fireplace in nervous anticipation of the pleasures to follow but the love of my life had to work far into the night. : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Information Master posted Message 2857 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 06, 2004 at 14:42:37 Subject: Other Things Unknown About Him Carlton McGee is one of the biggest hounds amongst dogs. He utilizes his office “a place of influence” to chase and seduce women in business. The city now being sued for not paying a financial consultant who pretty much so bailed the city out of its financial debt (a women) is just one of the recent scandals that have been revealed. Carlton was recently involved in another scandal for awarding contracts to a company that he was romantically involved with its owner. who just happened to be attempting to do business with the city. In both cases, the city has failed to pay these contractors for services performed. I have seen them together since this scandal and have noticed that this company is still bidding on city contracts. I am an employee with the city of Jersey City and have been watching for these companies to be awarded bids by the city. The company that Carlton has been in bed with its owner still bids and I will keep you posted on the outcome of the vendor selection when these bids are awarded. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2858 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 07, 2004 at 13:16:53 Subject: Text of the Paul Byrne, Joseph Barry Indictment Please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kenny is Corrupt posted Message 2859 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 07, 2004 at 19:32:09 Subject: Bernie Kenny = Joe Barry's Personal Attorney Can't wait to see Joe Barry's Pay Off List - Money Barry Paid to Corrupt Officials for Federal and State Grants. Any guesses on who heads the list ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** for starters posted Message 2860 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 07, 2004 at 22:56:51 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny = Joe Barry's Personal Attorney 1)Booby Jackson 2)Joe Cardwell ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ican C Clearly posted Message 2861 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 08, 2004 at 00:48:46 Subject: Re: Schundler beats Cunningham -Head Too Head Bret is a viable candidate because Cunningham is such a failure as a leader. Whether you like Bret or not, his intelligence and ego made sure that (to a point) he stayed focused on the city's agenda. Bret obviously had an agenda that went far beyond Jersey City, but this town was his idiological incubator. And there's the difference between Schundler and Cunningham... Bret had an agenda...a vision...a plan. Cunningham has nothing but greed and a belief that he is destined to be the first black Mayor. Nothing more. Cunningham never talks about us...the residents and our lives. He never talks about lifting the black community economically or socially. He talks about how impotant he is, and what he is going to do...and how we should be glad to be the recipients of his largese. Well guess what Glenn old boy, we don't need to beg for scraps from your table. Bret may be a bit pompous, and he is an ideolog, but his fundamental drive is to create a legacy for himself as having done good things for our city. Cunningham's drive is to line his pockets and that of his cronies who feel that they have been over-looked for too long. I don't think the choice will be a hard one for Jersey City to make when these two go head to head. Something tells me Cunningham will soon be drawing upon his marine pension, his JCPD police pension, his Hudson County pension, his US Marshal's pension...and oh yeah....his PERS State Pension. Something tells me that financially Cunningham will do very well in retirement. : Hang on Jersey City Taxpayers, Help is on the Way.Poll has Bret Beating the Mayor -Man easily.The Sun is starting to shine again on Jersey City And its Taxpayers.Amen. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2862 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 08, 2004 at 11:02:40 Subject: Re: Schundler beats Cunningham -Head Too Head : Bret is a viable candidate because Cunningham is such a failure as a leader. Whether you like Bret or not, his intelligence and ego made sure that (to a point) he stayed focused on the city's agenda. : Bret obviously had an agenda that went far beyond Jersey City, but this town was his idiological incubator. And there's the difference between Schundler and Cunningham... Bret had an agenda...a vision...a plan. Cunningham has nothing but greed and a belief that he is destined to be the first black Mayor. Nothing more. : Cunningham never talks about us...the residents and our lives. He never talks about lifting the black community economically or socially. He talks about how impotant he is, and what he is going to do...and how we should be glad to be the recipients of his largese. : Well guess what Glenn old boy, we don't need to beg for scraps from your table. Bret may be a bit pompous, and he is an ideolog, but his fundamental drive is to create a legacy for himself as having done good things for our city. : Cunningham's drive is to line his pockets and that of his cronies who feel that they have been over-looked for too long. I don't think the choice will be a hard one for Jersey City to make when these two go head to head. : Something tells me Cunningham will soon be drawing upon his marine pension, his JCPD police pension, his Hudson County pension, his US Marshal's pension...and oh yeah....his PERS State Pension. Something tells me that financially Cunningham will do very well in retirement. : : Hang on Jersey City Taxpayers, Help is on the Way.Poll has Bret Beating the Mayor -Man easily.The Sun is starting to shine again on Jersey City And its Taxpayers.Amen. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kenny is a Shill for Menendez posted Message 2863 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 08, 2004 at 12:26:14 Subject: Barry Monopolized All Federal & State Funds Joe Barry's entire Applied Companies Empire is built on Federal And State Funds. RICO Indictments will finally reclaim what really belongs to the people - not the crooked Politicos. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2864 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 09, 2004 at 15:26:13 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show: March 8, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Is Kenny Ever Sober ??? posted Message 2865 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 09, 2004 at 21:34:22 Subject: What a Sob Story Here's Bernie Kenny Classic Sob Story : Life's Work of Rebuilding a Family Reputation : : By CHRIS HEDGES : Published: March 2, 2004 : NEW YORK TIMES : TRENTON : AT the age of 10, with the father he idolized locked away in a federal prison for corruption, State Senator Bernard F. Kenny Jr. embarked on a mission that would consume his life - restoring honor to his family name. : "I remember going to school the day he was convicted," he said. "His picture was on the front page of The Jersey Journal. All the others kids talked about it. My mother and I had to go up to the federal prison in Danbury, Conn., over the next year to visit him. We would stay in small hotels in Danbury. It is where I saw the movie "The Spirit of St. Louis." : As the chairman of the Jersey City Redevelopment Authority, his father was convicted of handing work to his former construction firm in exchange for kickbacks. When his father was released, the conviction was rarely discussed. It was only 20 years later, after the senator had dug through the files and read the trial transcripts, that he dared to bring up the sordid event with his father. : "It was devastating for him," said Mr. Kenny, 57, New Jersey's Senate majority leader, seated in his wood-paneled office in the State House. "He was an extraordinarily talented guy, a great athlete, a fine singer, well liked, but the conviction prevented him for being accepted in the places he wanted to be accepted." : The son, who is now turning his attention to Gov. James E. McGreevey's latest state budget, has clearly achieved that acceptance. : It is Senator Kenny, along with a handful of other powerful state Democratic leaders, whom the governor is expected to ask to shepherd a so-called millionaire's tax through the Assembly and the Senate. It is intended to raise property taxes on the state's wealthiest homeowners and lower the burden on others. : The governor, who announced his budget but has yet to formally endorse a campaign for the tax, hopes that the tax will provide about $750 million in property tax relief from the $17 billion levy raised through property taxes by local governments. New Jersey has the highest property taxes in the nation. : The senator speaks slowly and with a soft affability. He is known as a patient, methodical leader, who last year was named by New Jersey Monthly magazine as the politician "most trusted by fellow legislators." The word trust was not lost on him. : His experience with his father does not seem to have left vestiges of bitterness, perhaps because the name has been resurrected. He said he knew early on in life that he had to "confront these demons." This is what drove him into the public arena. : He went to law school. When he graduated he applied for a job in the Hudson County prosecutor's office, an office that had thick files on his father and other powerful politicians bearing the Kenny name. : He sat in the office, facing James O'Halloran, the county prosecutor, who later became a Superior Court judge. : "I know I am a Kenny," he remembers telling Mr. O'Halloran, "and there are a number of files in this office with the Kenny name on them. But I would appreciate an opportunity to work here.'' : His voice dips as he remembers the response. : "Is this your résumé or your father's?" he was asked, followed by the words, "You are hired." : "He gave me a chance," Mr. Kenny said. "He cared. I have always tried to do for others what he did for me in my own life." : When Mr. Kenny was sworn in to the General Assembly in 1988, his father, ill with cancer, watched from the balcony. The ravages of the disease were so severe that his father had to be driven to and from the ceremony. : "I told him afterwards, I did this for you," Senator Kenny said. "He said, 'I know.' " : Two months later his father was dead. : "This is why I am here, for the vindication of my family," he said. "It was all about being employed by the government, about being accepted. I have my father's name." : Perhaps not surprisingly, the senator says it is the individual that fascinates him, the figure who can rise above the throngs and make a difference. His father, he said, had this ability. He admires Abraham Lincoln and is known to quote from Lincoln's second inaugural address. : I AM fascinated by those individuals who can make a difference in history," he said. "If it were not for Lincoln we might not be the country we are today. We might be three or four countries. Individuals in all walks of life can make a profound difference in families or communities. It is the individual; ultimately, that is the driving force in history." : Senator Kenny and his wife, Roberta, a schoolteacher, have three children and have lived in Hoboken for 30 years. It is not the life his mother had encouraged him to build when he went to law school. : "She told me to move to Summit and get a job in the suburbs," he joked. : But he was in pursuit of another goal. And as he walks the hall of the State House, his colleagues see one Bernard F. Kenny, while he sees two. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2866 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 10, 2004 at 08:37:35 Subject: Bret Schundler is the "ONE" Only Bret Schundler can clean up our image for Corruption and scandals.Help is on the way ,taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Neo posted Message 2867 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 10, 2004 at 09:56:06 Subject: Not so fast !!! The only "ONE" is me. Morpheus says so. So get your head outta Bret's butt you loser. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Crew Cut posted Message 2868 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 10, 2004 at 21:36:51 Subject: Re: Bret Schundler is the "ONE" Even Bret is better than this "attention deficit disorder" idiot occupying the Mayor's Office today. How we stooped to this level is just beyond my comprehension. : Only Bret Schundler can clean up our image for Corruption and scandals.Help is on the way ,taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2869 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 12, 2004 at 05:58:43 Subject: The Story: Names in the News (Re)Acquaint yourself with the many Hudson County actors. See what the media -- and Chris Christie's office -- has to say. Please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2870 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 12, 2004 at 08:21:17 Subject: Re: The Story: Names in the News : (Re)Acquaint yourself with the many Hudson County actors. See what the media -- and Chris Christie's office -- has to say. : Please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2871 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 12, 2004 at 08:27:11 Subject: Campaign Cash How much money did Janiszewski give Cunningahm for his run for Mayor of Jersey City? And Why did Cunningham take It?Two important questions,taxpayers should ask the Mayor-Man. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Did u take your pro zac posted Message 2872 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 12, 2004 at 08:27:40 Subject: Re: The Story: Names in the News Well, that was deep Tom...very very deep! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dear Tom posted Message 2873 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 12, 2004 at 08:32:12 Subject: Re: Campaign Cash critter buick allegro eyelid shantung withal bridgehead bagley baird austenite screwball sewn advantage phosphor forty boastful retribution bmw paschal servicemen gonzalez circumsphere noxious u's cheer ghostly referring neoconservative brinkmanship ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dear Nancy posted Message 2874 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 12, 2004 at 08:33:27 Subject: Re: Campaign Cash More than 5,000 people in the United States will die tommorrow as a result of alchol, tobacco, or illicit drug use. You can prevent someone you love from being one of them.to save a life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2875 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 12, 2004 at 08:48:22 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mark posted Message 2876 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 12, 2004 at 09:43:07 Subject: Grandpa, what was free speech like? Someday I expect my grand children to say that. We have taken one of the freedoms of america and killed it. Radio and TV stations are now scared to say anything against the government because of the new indecency act. When we can't criticize the government is it really democracy? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2877 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 12, 2004 at 09:53:06 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Even we can't take it posted Message 2878 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 13, 2004 at 15:13:31 Subject: Surplus funds We, the City Council, authorize the Mayor to appropriate any funds deemed necessary to get rid of this damn old fool. Even we can't take his inane babbling anymore. We also, hereby, declare Tom Gaynor the Weapon of Mass Destruction that George W. Bush has been looking for. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Albio Sires posted Message 2879 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 14, 2004 at 23:19:26 Subject: Heart Attack? Is it true that Albio Sires, the speaker of the house had a heart attack last week and was rushed to the hospital? is he ok? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Maybe Abreu posted Message 2880 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 14, 2004 at 23:20:36 Subject: Re: Heart Attack? Perhaps Abreu is talking? He should had jump in the river like Sal did! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2881 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 15, 2004 at 19:54:23 Subject: Bergen Record lists Janiszewski as McGreevey Fund-Raiser Bergen Record McGreevey backers often face scrutiny Sunday, March 14, 2004 By ELISE YOUNG, CLINT RILEY, and JEFF PILLETS TRENTON BUREAU . . . Another fund-raiser of note - a money man so effective that he became the New Jersey chairman of President Clinton's reelection campaign - was former Hudson County Executive Robert "Bobby J" Janiszewski. In October 2002, two years after he was snagged in an FBI sting, Janiszewski admitted to accepting more than $100,000 in bribes during his 13 years in office. . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2882 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 16, 2004 at 09:13:48 Subject: News 12 Video: Lou Manzo on New Jersey Power and Politics, 02/21/04 Steve Kornacki and David Rebovich speak with Assemblyman Lou Manzo. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2883 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 16, 2004 at 15:26:20 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County Talking Radio Show: March 15, 2004 Was Glenn "dissed" at the Loew's? Pat says that Glenn is a "man's man" – and more. Has Jersey City pulled ahead of the County in the Web Site race? These are but a few of tonite's hot topics! To access the Online audio, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Talking Radio Show: March 15, 2004 posted Message 2884 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 16, 2004 at 15:51:05 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County Talking Radio Show: March 15, 2004 Was Glenn "p issed" at the Loew's? Pat says that Glenn is a "girl's's girl"- and more. Has Jersey City pulled ahead of the County in the dumb race? These are but a few of tonite's hot topics! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2885 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 16, 2004 at 16:18:19 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Radio Show of 9/10/01 What's changed and what's remained the same? Click on the Link to access the Online audio of Pat's show from what would turn out to be the last normal day of our lives. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2886 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 16, 2004 at 17:09:35 Subject: NJN Video: Congress Watch: Michael Aron Interviews Congressman Robert Menendez To view the Online video, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roger Ebert posted Message 2887 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 17, 2004 at 11:18:41 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County Talking Radio Show: March 15, 2004 : Was Glenn "dissed" at the Loew's? Pat says that Glenn is a "man's man" – and more. Has Jersey City pulled ahead of the County in the Web Site race? These are but a few of tonite's hot topics! : To access the Online audio, click on the Link. Pat has had some really bad shows in the past but without a doubt this one was the most horrendous. Was there one group of people he didn't offend? Pat's show makes "The Uncle Floyd Show" look like "Nova". ***************** End Of Article ****************** United for Peace and Justice posted Message 2888 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 17, 2004 at 17:50:17 Subject: The World STILL Says No to War! The World STILL Says No to War! Global Day of Action Against War and Occupation Saturday, March 20 http://www.unitedforpeace.org Anti-war groups throughout the United States and around the globe will take to the streets on Saturday March 20, the one-year anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, under the banner "The World Still Says No to War." Over 150 protests are planned in cities across the United States, from Alaska to Florida, Hawaii to Maine, calling for an end to the occupation of Iraq. Similar demonstrations will take place on every continent in the world, making March 20 a global day of coordinated action in the spirit of last year's historic February 15 protests. In New York City, tens of thousands from throughout the Northeast will converge in Midtown Manhattan for a march and rally in the heart of the city's busiest shopping district. People will gather on Madison Avenue stretching north from 23rd Street beginning at noon. For more details, see http://www.unitedforpeace.org/nyc Other major March 20 protests in the U.S. include a march and rally in Fayetteville, North Carolina, home to Ft. Bragg, which will prominently feature military families and veterans opposed to the Iraq war and occupation. Caravans from throughout the state of Texas will converge on President George W. Bush's hometown of Crawford, for an anti-war parade and rally. United for Peace and Justice is a national coalition with nearly 800 groups under its umbrella. Since its founding in October 2002, UFPJ has spurred hundreds of protests and rallies around the country, including the two largest demonstrations against the Iraq war. For additional information see http://www.unitedforpeace.org. * Find out about March 20 activities in your community at http://www.unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php?caltype=17 * Join the March 20 day of action! List your community's event on the United for Peace and Justice website at: http://www.unitedforpeace.org/calendar_gxinput.php * Visit our website for leaflets that can be adapted for use in any community planning a March 20 event: http://www.unitedforpeace.org/mar20 * Get the most up-to-date logistical information about the regional demonstration in NYC on March 20 at http://www.unitedforpeace.org/nyc * Join our action alerts list for once-a-week updates on the March 20 mobilization and other peace and justice activities: http://www.unitedforpeace.org/email * Support the March 20 mobilization by making a contribution at http://www.unitedforpeace.org/donate ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2889 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 17, 2004 at 18:33:21 Subject: Steve Glazer It looks like you won't have Steve Glazer to kick around anymore. . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2890 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 17, 2004 at 20:01:14 Subject: Re: Steve Glazer Hey, long distance butt kicking works too! The internet is world-wide. ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 2891 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 17, 2004 at 20:03:38 Subject: Re: Steve Glazer P.S. Best of luck to you Glazer Getting on with your life....PRICELESS! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fun About To Start posted Message 2892 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 17, 2004 at 21:12:26 Subject: Come Back Steve Come Back Steve - The Fun is About to Start. : It looks like you won't have Steve Glazer to kick around anymore. . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** He ain't one of us! posted Message 2893 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2004 at 06:46:09 Subject: Pat gives the Irish a bad name! Sorry Pat, we were all standing in Brennan's & it was put to a vote - YOU'RE NO LONGER IRISH! We would suggest another group you could disgrace but no one else wants ya! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lovely Rita posted Message 2894 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2004 at 08:34:03 Subject: Re: Steve Glazer : P.S. : Best of luck to you Glazer : Getting on with your life....PRICELESS! Die a slow horrible death punk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tommy Makem posted Message 2895 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2004 at 12:58:53 Subject: Stevie we hardly knew ya Goodbye. And good riddance. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2896 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2004 at 14:39:32 Subject: Who will take Steve Glazer's Place at the UTN? Will Earl Morgan jump on board? Will Sally Deering get nostalgic for newsprint once the pot starts to boil over at the Medical Center? Might Helene Stapinski return to Jersey City? And then there's Martha Stewart. She was born here after all. . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** ME posted Message 2897 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 18, 2004 at 15:02:18 Subject: Re: Who will take Steve Glazer's Place at the UTN? : Will Earl Morgan jump on board? .......................Yes when hell freezes over! Will Sally Deering get nostalgic for newsprint once the pot starts to boil over at the Medical Center?................... She has to much class for that rag! Might Helene Stapinski return to Jersey City?................. She would rip Jackson a new a- hole! : And then there's Martha Stewart. She was born here after all. Who cares! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JCHA brass seeing HUD in Newark today posted Message 2898 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 19, 2004 at 10:47:00 Subject: Housing boss is barred from Jersey City office Housing boss is barred from Jersey City office JCHA brass seeing HUD in Newark today Friday, March 19, 2004 By Earl Morgan Journal staff writer The locks were changed on the doors of the Jersey City Housing Authority administrative headquarters yesterday to deny the agency's recently hired executive director, E. Troy Washington, access to the building. At approximately 6 p.m. yesterday, JCHA Board Chairman Arthur Williams arrived at the administrative headquarters, at 400 U.S. Highway 1, in the Marion Gardens complex, with several JCHA employees and ordered everyone out of the building. Several employees, including consultant Jim Scott and the deputy director of security, Alvin "Duke" Sims, were ordered to leave. Washington is currently in Cuba, according to agency sources, and could not be reached for comment. After the building was vacated, a police guard was set up to assure that no one could enter the building until the agency opens for business today at 9 a.m. According to Housing Authority documents obtained by The Jersey Journal, the JCHA board yesterday approved a number of actions in a phone vote, including passage of a resolution informing Washington that he will not be paid for this week's absence. One letter also rebuked Washington for leaving without letting the board know he would be out of town or advising it of who would be in charge in his absence. A resolution was also approved by phone rehiring Sandra Robertson as deputy executive director of management and operations. She was terminated the day Washington took over. Another document rescinds the $2,200-a-week contract paid to consultant Scott, who served as the agency's interim executive director before Washington took over in mid-January. Washington took over the JCHA on Jan. 16 after serving in the same position at the Hoboken Housing Authority. After his departure from Hoboken, the interim executive director of that agency, Bob DiVincent, reported finding a number of budgetary problems. Last Friday, DiVincent released a report showing the HHA has a $3.6 million budget deficit. The HHA receives most of its approximately $10 million budget from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Following DiVincent's disclosures, HUD officials announced they were sending the report to that agency's inspector general for further review. While Williams, the board chairman, refused to make any statements concerning the JCHA's actions yesterday, it was learned that the agency's commissioners are scheduled to meet with HUD officials in Newark this morning. Yesterday, Jersey City City Council President L. Harvey Smith called for Washington's ouster. "I believe it is in the best interest of the city and the JCHA that Mr. Washington step down from his position until the HUD investigation is completed," Smith said in a memorandum sent to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. Responding to Smith's memo, Stan H. Eason, a spokesman Cunningham said: "We have not been notified by any agency, HUD or anyone else, of any wrongdoing. However, if we need a sheriff, we'll be sure to call Mr. Smith." Eason's comment was meant as a dig at Smith, who is also a Hudson County undersheriff. Cunningham in the past has questioned Smith's qualifications for the post. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 2899 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 19, 2004 at 11:47:38 Subject: Damage Control After hiring Troy Washington, and allowing him to fire loyal and competent JCHA staff, Artie Williams and his boss Cunningham are scurrying about trying to do damage control. Another example of how incompetent the Cunningham Administration is. Wouldn't it be loverly if the Feds were able to tie Cunningham and Drayton to Troy Washington's misdeeds. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 2900 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 19, 2004 at 18:54:03 Subject: Cunninhams Suit v. Gaughan Ousted by Judge Mayor Glenn Cunningham did not get to first base, in fact he barely got up to bat, befor the Judge threw him out! The case agains Councilman Bill Gaughan in which the Mayor claimed an impermissable conflict of interest on the Counselman's part, was dismissed today by Judge Gallipoli. No merit tothe Mayor's claim. A political ploy. A charade! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2901 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 19, 2004 at 21:04:57 Subject: For the record This is not the original BlindJustice. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2902 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 19, 2004 at 21:15:42 Subject: Just one more thing If you are going to pretend you are me, remember, not only can I spell but I tend to be grammatically correct. Therefore, dear toothless minion, climb back into your tree & stop playing with the computers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2903 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 19, 2004 at 21:21:44 Subject: Spring has sprung Ahhh...spring & elections, daffodils & derision when one's fancy turns to thoughts of setting up an offshore account & getting the hell out of the town. :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lovey posted Message 2904 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 19, 2004 at 21:36:32 Subject: Thurston Darling, I'm home. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 2905 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 19, 2004 at 22:40:54 Subject: Re: Just one more thing : If you are going to pretend you are me, remember, not only can I spell but I tend to be grammatically correct. : Therefore, dear toothless minion, climb back into your tree & stop playing with the computers. Do not flatter yourself missy! BJ does not stand for Blind Justice. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2906 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 19, 2004 at 23:03:46 Subject: Well, well, well If it isn't the potty mouth. Use your own moniker, not mine. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Clarence Darrow posted Message 2907 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 19, 2004 at 23:16:07 Subject: Lawyers love Glenn !! Glenn .. don't be disappointed by your loss. Keep going to court. Keep litigating. Between the suits you are bringing and those being brought against you ... we are making millions !!! God Bless Glenn Cunningham !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Will the real BlindJustice,,, please stand up! posted Message 2908 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 19, 2004 at 23:39:43 Subject: Re: Just one more thing : If you are going to pretend you are me, remember, not only can I spell but I tend to be grammatically correct. : Therefore, dear toothless minion, climb back into your tree & stop playing with the computers. LOL! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2909 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 20, 2004 at 00:00:04 Subject: Re: Just one more thing I am standing! ***************** End Of Article ****************** And my I say ...you look marvelous! posted Message 2910 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 20, 2004 at 00:16:52 Subject: Re: Just one more thing :>) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2911 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 20, 2004 at 08:03:01 Subject: Cunningham &Gang It wont be long now.The good taxpayers of Jersey City will be CUNNINGHAM Free.These scams will bring him down,Even in jersey city.Enough is enough OF THIS TYPE OF corruption> ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ or EvilNorah et.al. posted Message 2912 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 20, 2004 at 09:29:13 Subject: Re: Phoney Baloney : : If you are going to pretend you are me, remember, not only can I spell but I tend to be grammatically correct. : : Therefore, dear toothless minion, climb back into your tree & stop playing with the computers. : Do not flatter yourself missy! : BJ does not stand for Blind Justice. You use a dozen names on these boards. We know its you by the venom, arrogance, pomposity, bias, ignorance and good grammar. Hey Steve Glazer brought all these qualities to the table too. Only he was better looking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2913 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 20, 2004 at 09:51:56 Subject: More than once More than once I have offered to meet you & find out what your personal issue with me is. You are not man (or woman) enough to do so. I post, like everyone else, and from day one you have been personally attacking me. Now, once again, the offer is on the table to meet me & get this straightened out so we can get on with the business of trashing each other's candidates. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ONE DAY LATER STAN EASON SINGS A DIFFERENT TUNE posted Message 2914 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 20, 2004 at 15:26:57 Subject: >WHAT A DIFFERENCE A DAY MAKES....way to go Stan Haynes named as housing chief Cunningham says he wants Washington out Saturday, March 20, 2004 By Earl Morgan Journal staff writer Ervin Haynes, the director of Jersey City's Office of Management Review, will take over as interim executive director of the Jersey City Housing Authority. He replaces E. Troy Washington, who is on suspension from the post, according to a spokesman for Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. Stan Eason, Cunningham's communications director, said the mayor wants Washington out of the position. "The (Jersey City Housing Authority) board wants to suspend Washington, but mayor wants him to step down," Eason said. Arthur Williams, chairman of the JCHA, took the drastic step of changing the locks at the agency's headquarters Thursday to deny Washington access to the building. That was only one of a number of actions taken to restrict Washington's authority. While Williams was not available for comment yesterday, Eason confirmed that the mayor and Deputy Mayor Eugene Drayton, along with Williams and other JCHA board members, attended a meeting at the offices of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development in Newark yesterday to discuss the situation at the JCHA and decide who will head the agency during Washington's absence. HUD provides most of the funding for municipal housing authorities in the country. Eason said Haynes was tapped to serve as JCHA interim executive director because of his experience as a former director of the city's Department of Housing, Economic Development and Commerce. He also was an administrator in the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency. Washington is traveling abroad, in Cuba, according to several board sources, and was unavailable for comment yesterday. But the suspended director has been in the news ever since leaving his former post as executive director of the Hoboken Housing Authority to take the same position in Jersey City on Jan. 16. On his first day as JCHA director, Washington fired Sandra Robertson, a 23-year JCHA employee who was deputy executive director of management and operations. Robertson said she was told she was fired for reasons of "economy and efficiency." On Thursday, the JCHA board approved a resolution by phone vote to rehire Robertson. A few days after Robertson's ouster, Washington also terminated another employee, Maynard Banks, the agency's director of management information who had 10 years on the job. Under its former executive director, Robert Rigby, the JCHA enjoyed a reputation with HUD officials as being one of the nation's best run housing authorities. Ironically, Rigby, who died nearly a year ago, recommended to Cunningham that either Banks or Maria Maio, another deputy director who left the JCHA shortly after Washington arrived, be his replacement. Almost simultaneous with Washington's appointment in Jersey City, Robert DiVincent, who became the interim executive director of the Hoboken's Housing Authority after Washington's departure, announced that he had found a number of deficiencies in the authority's $10 million budget. During an HHA meeting two weeks ago, DiVincent said there was a $3.6 million budget deficit. Several days later, HUD officials announced that the report was being sent to the agency's inspector general "for review." Meanwhile, in Jersey City, Washington was raising eyebrows with what one source called "his management style." Members of the JCHA board also seemed miffed that Washington took off from work without advising them of his absence and without leaving anyone in charge of the agency while he was gone. The problems prompted the JCHA board to issue yesterday a number of directives and resolutions, all aimed at curtailing Washington's authority. Among them was an order to temporarily suspend the 12 employees who came to Jersey City from the HHA with Washington until background checks and physical examinations are done on each. The board also fired James Scott, the former interim executive director of the JCHA who served until Washington took over. Scott continued to work for the agency as a $2,200-a-week consultant. Washington's authority to hire and fire was also rescinded by a board resolution adopted in a telephone vote. The board has also directed Washington to: Report on all surplus funds expended since Dec. 1, 2003. Furnish a list of all purchase orders executed by Washington since Dec. 1, 2003. Report on the newly created chief of security position held by employee Al Thomas. Furnish information and details on nature and scope of surveillance of any JCHA employees or others undertaken by Thomas. Provide a report detailing "the purpose and basis for the executive director and the director of security to secure firearms carry permits." ***************** End Of Article ****************** God Bless BJ posted Message 2915 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 20, 2004 at 21:16:08 Subject: Hail Blind Justice Hail Blind Justice . I truly enjoy her posts and her insight ! God Bless You BJ - Keep Up the Good Work ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2916 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 21, 2004 at 05:46:13 Subject: Reality Show For 280 Grove? Always wanted to be a star? Here's your BIG chance! Tryouts are starting for that once-every-four-year event, Jersey City's own reality show -- CONNIVER. Here we've got the two Offices, Mayor and Council. One team wants to remain king of the hill; the other wants to climb to the top. What kaleidoscopes of circles, cliques and cabals are emerging, merging, and reemerging within each group? And, who -- after weighing the odds and angling for a better deal -- is slipping over to the other side? For everybody, there are those two (polished to a high gloss by time) techniques for keeping your fingernails dug firmly into a paycheck: going-through-the-motions and blending-in-with-the-woodwork. For those with the internal fortitude to withstand the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune (not to mention slashed tires), hold-out-till-you're-bought-out can be very rewarding. Who's going to be on the Mayor's Council ticket? Is Glenn really going to latch onto a ship anchor Ward D Council candidate proposing to blight the Heights and put a combination of luxury hi-rise and low income housing projects on Palisade Avenue? Will the Council actually push for Mayor a guy who's own personal map of Jersey City for everything south of Journal Square just has a big, empty space with the words HERE BE DRAGONS? Or, are they going to try again (as phrased in so sensitive a manner by one HCDOite during the 31st Senate campaign) "to fight fire with fire?" Are the CHESS FOR MAYOR signs at the printer right now? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cunningham is a fool posted Message 2917 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 21, 2004 at 10:37:13 Subject: Give me that hard hat! Give me that hard hat! In what seems to have become an annual tradition, public officials from Hudson County and Jersey City gathered as part of a groundbreaking ceremony for the culinary institute at the community college. Just asJohn Shinnick, the official county photographer, was lining people up for their photograph, Cunningham popped out of a car and grabbed a hard hat out of the hands of Freeholder Maurice Fitzgibbons to get into the shot. Fitzgibbons, however, grabbed the hard hat back and told the mayor to get his own. Apparently there weren't enough to go around and people on the scene overheard Cunningham telling Fitzgibbons, "You should have given your mayor the hat." When Fitzgibbons remained unmoved, Cunningham escalated his claims, saying, "you should have given your senator the hat." To Cunningham's credit, however, the Jersey City mayor pledged the city's cooperation in helping to get the project complete. Others told Fitzgibbons to keep the hat. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lovely Rita posted Message 2918 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 21, 2004 at 17:35:35 Subject: Re: Hail Blind Justice : Hail Blind Justice . : I truly enjoy her posts and her insight ! : God Bless You BJ - Keep Up the Good Work ! And the horse she came to town on. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2919 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 21, 2004 at 18:12:02 Subject: Re: Hail Blind Justice A little Morgan/Quarter horse actually. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wooly Bully posted Message 2920 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 21, 2004 at 18:14:07 Subject: Hail BJ Hail BJ .....she can do no wrong in my book. See you all soon ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yo wolly posted Message 2921 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 21, 2004 at 19:13:02 Subject: Re: Hail BJ And who da ya think BJ is? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wolly posted Message 2922 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 21, 2004 at 19:14:42 Subject: Re: Hail Blind Justice Hey, get off my pony! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Copernicus posted Message 2923 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 21, 2004 at 23:52:40 Subject: Re: Hail BJ : And who da ya think BJ is? Ms.S.B., of course ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2924 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 22, 2004 at 06:42:30 Subject: One more time I keep putting the offer on the table for you to meet with me & discuss why you have such a personal hard on for me. You just seem content to spew forth your hateful, bias & venomous views on a person you have only assumed you know. You have called me a tart, old, ugly & a few other things. Yet you are "terrified" of meeting on neutral grounds to work out an agreement where we can agree to disagree & have a little "fun" on the boards we meet up on. You are truly a sad little person. ***************** End Of Article ****************** wtg posted Message 2925 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 22, 2004 at 09:05:04 Subject: Shredded papers, overdrawn accounts Shredded papers, overdrawn accounts Monday, March 22, 2004 There are many questions swirling around the recent drama at the Jersey City Housing Authority, but one of the biggest is just what was in at least four bags that were reportedly delivered to the office of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development during its meeting in Newark on Friday. Sources said the bags were full of shredded documents - raising even more questions. Friday's meeting, ostensibly, was held to decide the JCHA's next move after its executive director, E. Troy Washington, was placed on suspension. The meeting was held at the HUD's office because that federal agency provides virtually all the funding for municipal housing authorities across the country. Washington set off alarm bells almost as soon as he reported to work in January when he fired two long-term employees immediately after he was hired. But one little-known action also taken by Washington was the purchase of a $4,000 "super shredder" which was installed near his office. No one is saying, officially, what's expected to be found in the bags hauled out of JCHA headquarters. For weeks before Washington was ousted, employees were complaining about, for want of a better term, the executive director's management style. Obviously, from a list of new directives the JCHA board has issued, some of the board commissioners were also miffed about Washington's style. The rules Washington had in place aren't available to the media, but the new ones are certainly intriguing: One directive declares that JCHA personnel and staff are now free to "communicate directly" with the agency's commissioners and counsel, and further promises that no disciplinary action will be taken against any employees who do so. Another restores all employees to the positions and job sites they had before Washington's arrival. A directive specifically instructed Washington that he must "immediately cease any further renovation of the agency" headquarters." And a directive ordered the immediate removal of a surveillance camera recently installed on the first floor of the headquarters. This reporter happened to be present for the removal of that camera - it was completely invisible to anyone not knowing it was there, because it was hidden inside a smoke detector. And there is the matter of a $200,000 payment-in-lieu-of-taxes (PILOTS) check the JCHA presented to the city several weeks ago. The check was issued to cover funds the city is supposed to receive instead of tax payments for public housing sites built on city-owned land. Questions about Washington's tenure, in Jersey City and Hoboken, had put him in a not-too-friendly spotlight, and City Hall was looking for a way to make the JCHA's executive director look like a good choice. So Washington presented the check to Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham at a photo op staged for the media. But during the last JCHA meeting, it was reported that there was only $59,000 in the authority's account to pay PILOTS, so the board voted to approve paying $15,000 to the city from that account for two of its housing sites. There was no mention of the $200,000. In addition, it was reported that the account to pay legal expenses was overdrawn by $170,000 and the administration was looking at other areas of the budget for cutbacks to cover the shortfall until HUD approved its new proposed $58 million budget. Meanwhile, HUD also is taking a look at events at the Hoboken Housing Authority - which was run by Washington before he came to Jersey City - and is believed to be running a deficit of $3.6 million with the discovery of several unpaid bills dating back to Washington's tenure. In a related development, the JCHA has called for an emergency meeting Wednesday at 6 p.m. at its headquarters in Marion Gardens, 400 U.S. Highway 1&9, Board Chairman Arthur Williams said yesterday. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Special Ed posted Message 2926 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 23, 2004 at 12:10:22 Subject: SHE LIVES!!! Jay Stevens Live and Well. Watching and Listening. The Beatch is Back...soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2927 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 23, 2004 at 15:29:40 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of 03/22/04 To access the Online audio, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Expose Corruption posted Message 2928 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 23, 2004 at 15:49:19 Subject: Long Live Jay Stevens Long Live Jay Stevens. Expose the HCDO at every chance : Jay Stevens Live and Well. Watching and Listening. The Beatch is Back...soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Patio posted Message 2929 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 23, 2004 at 16:48:50 Subject: Re: Long Live Jay Stevens : Long Live Brett. Expose the Bobby Jackson while you are at it. : : Jay Stevens Live and Well. Watching and Listening. The Beatch is Back...soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Naked Truth posted Message 2930 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 23, 2004 at 18:18:25 Subject: Long Live Jay Stevens : : Long Live Brett. Expose the Bobby Jackson while you are at it. Tell Brett to go play with his "driver". And I am not referring to the one in his golf bag. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unw posted Message 2931 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 23, 2004 at 20:26:53 Subject: Re: SHE LIVES!!! O' gee happy, happy, joy, joy. The $hit continues ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2932 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 25, 2004 at 04:17:51 Subject: A Walk Down Memory Lane? A case for Joe Franklin? Take a peek at the Link to the County's Web Site. Joe Charles is listed as State Senator for the 31st. Elba Perez-Cincirelli, Joseph V. Doria, Jr., and Rafael Fraguela seem still to be in the Assembly. And miracles of miracles, Bill Braker remains a Freeholder. Alas, we are such an unforgiving people. Nidia is out here, too ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 2933 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 25, 2004 at 06:29:12 Subject: Re: A Walk Down Memory Lane? A case for Joe Franklin & John Edwards It seems that Joe Franklin can still interview George Wilson & Joan Arango about their many memories as Under Sheriff & Deputy Clerk, respectively. However, we will need to enlist John Edwards' assistance in the contacting Janet Haynes, County Clerk. :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** WitchWanda posted Message 2934 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 25, 2004 at 22:18:47 Subject: Art classes cancelled until further notice "Stay within the lines". Isn't that what a commercial said? "The lines are our friends". Well, maybe not. It seems last night someone was testing out this theory with a can of black spray paint. This is all well and fine but he was doing this on the large Jimmy King Association sign located on Summit Ave. by the highway. Needless to say, the enthusiastic young aide (to Radames) turned artist was spotted. The person, who saw the young man plying his new trade, as well as the police took exception to the young man's handiwork. Much to the young man's chagrin, he finished the evening touring the fine North District station. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 2935 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 25, 2004 at 22:50:14 Subject: Don't you know ? Black is beautiful. : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** WitchWanda posted Message 2936 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 25, 2004 at 23:30:28 Subject: Re: Don't you know ? : Black is beautiful. : : ) :: As are you Sidd. :: ;) ***************** End Of Article ****************** No grass posted Message 2937 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 00:11:31 Subject: Re: Don't you know ? : : Black is beautiful. : : : ) : :: As are you Sidd. : :: ;) You two are so silly!....lol ***************** End Of Article ****************** WitchWanda posted Message 2938 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 06:47:41 Subject: Video at 11 Another thing about this whole incident is that there were reportedly 2 young men engaging in this vandalism. The passerby tackled the one (who got the police station tour) and the other vandal ran like a bat out of hell. That's some friend. Sidd would have covered me if we got caught painting moustaches on billboards. Wouldn't you Sidd? Sidd? Sidd? You out there? :^O ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 2939 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 14:23:38 Subject: Sorry baby. But you're taking the fall. : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** WitchWanda posted Message 2940 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 16:42:16 Subject: Only if.... you"ll catch me! : ) If not, what color would you like me to spray paint you? >:( ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2941 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 18:29:43 Subject: Glenn's Fundraiser Hear that Glenn had quite a crowd at his fundraiser. At this rate, by next year he'll be sitting on quite a war chest. Think that Cunningham's opposition might have any luck in convincing Corzine to move to Jersey City to run for Mayor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** :) posted Message 2942 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 20:25:28 Subject: Re: Only if.... Rainbow ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2943 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 20:42:04 Subject: Cunningham Ward D Club 297 Griffith Street (Just off of Kennedy Boulevard) Open weekdays from 4:30PM to 9:00PM To view a video introduction, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 2944 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 22:32:55 Subject: Glenn's a dope. Just when the JCHA is about to boot Troy Washington, Glenn rallies to his defense. It seems that Mayor Man just can't say no to Drayton, Washington's partner in crime. For that matter, he can't say no to Cardwell or Jackson either. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 2945 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 22:36:37 Subject: What's up Anthony ? Are you becoming a shill for Mayor Man now ? Or are you just propping him up so your boy Bret can knock him down. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let's play the ugly contest. posted Message 2946 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 22:53:49 Subject: Re: What's up Anthony ? Who is uglier Joan or Maureen? Poor Marge she had to shower after sitting between those old bags. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WitchWanda posted Message 2947 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 23:30:01 Subject: He comes.... in colors everywhere; He combs his hair He's like a rainbow Coming colors in the air Oh, everywhere He comes in colors Howz dat? :^) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kakakakatie posted Message 2948 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 23:36:37 Subject: Re: Cunningham Ward D Club : 297 Griffith Street : (Just off of Kennedy Boulevard) : Open weekdays from 4:30PM to 9:00PM : To view a video introduction, please click on the Link. That has to be the most pathetic thing I ever saw. What a motley bunch. Glenn figures to do just great with this bunch of coconuts. Run Sean run!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lovely Rita posted Message 2949 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 23:39:09 Subject: Re: The Bigger They Are Baby, : Hear that Glenn had quite a crowd at his fundraiser. : At this rate, by next year he'll be sitting on quite a war chest. : Think that Cunningham's opposition might have any luck in convincing Corzine to move to Jersey City to run for Mayor? The harder they fall. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lucy in the sky..... posted Message 2950 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 26, 2004 at 23:51:13 Subject: Re: He comes.... Far out ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL posted Message 2951 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 27, 2004 at 09:27:00 Subject: Re: What's up Anthony ? I can't wait for the cat fight between those two.(LMAO) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watchin the Fool's Parade posted Message 2952 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 27, 2004 at 11:03:05 Subject: Losers like Ayala How can we expect our city to thrive when "mayor (idiot) man" hires and listens to idiots like Ayala? WHen I see that loser on the sidewalk rather than in city hall....i will know there is hope once again for us....the little guys. : Just when the JCHA is about to boot Troy Washington, Glenn rallies to his defense. It seems that Mayor Man just can't say no to Drayton, Washington's partner in crime. : For that matter, he can't say no to Cardwell or Jackson either. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2953 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 28, 2004 at 13:34:20 Subject: The Vandalized Sign The sign is on Rt. 139, just off of Summit Avenue. That's two blocks from Five Corners. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2954 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 28, 2004 at 13:35:41 Subject: Another Photo of The Vandalized Sign : The sign is on Rt. 139, just off of Summit Avenue. That's two blocks from Five Corners. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frank Hague's Ghost posted Message 2955 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 28, 2004 at 21:34:41 Subject: Take a chill pill Anthony Political dirty tricks are a tried and true Jersey City tradition. As American as apple pie and a ballot box full of returns from the cemetery. : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2956 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 07:52:52 Subject: We need a Honest Mayor in Jersey City The next Mayor of Jersey city must be above all else ,Honest.,We must undue all that has happened in the last Threee Years.Land scams, concert Scams, Sweet heart Deals.Meals, parties all on the taxpayers, must stop.Time to vote with your head,taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2957 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 07:53:03 Subject: We need a Honest Mayor in Jersey City The next Mayor of Jersey city must be above all else ,Honest.,We must undue all that has happened in the last Threee Years.Land scams, concert Scams, Sweet heart Deals.Meals, parties all on the taxpayers, must stop.Time to vote with your head,taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hey Tom, posted Message 2958 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 07:56:31 Subject: Re: We need a Honest Mayor in Jersey City We need you to take your meds! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now he's repeating himself posted Message 2959 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 08:05:49 Subject: Jeez A sign that your mind has gone is that you start repeating yourself. Get a life! Poor Nancy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaynor Lives In Avon By The Sea posted Message 2960 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 11:09:03 Subject: Tom Needs to Take Meds & Change Depends Your Good Friend Tom Depuppet Will NEVER give Nancy a County Job -- FACE IT !!!!!! Go walk in to the Ocean and Keep On Walking ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Done By Menendez Goons posted Message 2961 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 11:11:34 Subject: Disgraceful HCDO Behavior : The sign is on Rt. 139, just off of Summit Avenue. That's two blocks from Five Corners. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anon posted Message 2962 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 15:00:12 Subject: What's For Dinner? Earl Knows......... http://www.nj.com/columns/jjournal/morgan/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1080555115105441.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** Welcome Back !!! posted Message 2963 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 20:47:44 Subject: We Missed You ! Welcome Back. We Missed You ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loyal Reader posted Message 2964 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 20:49:20 Subject: Heard You Look Marvalous : Welcome Back. : We Missed You ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** James Mason posted Message 2965 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 22:30:12 Subject: Sounds like me ... in A Star is Born. LMAO ***************** End Of Article ****************** the diapers and posted Message 2966 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 22:52:14 Subject: I'll bring the talcum powder. ROFLMAO ***************** End Of Article ****************** You to posted Message 2967 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 22:54:46 Subject: Now, I want Stop fooling around and go to bed immediately! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO posted Message 2968 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 29, 2004 at 23:50:54 Subject: Re: Heard You Look Marvalous : : Welcome Back. : : We Missed You NO WE DID NOT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2969 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2004 at 04:05:21 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2970 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2004 at 05:42:14 Subject: Close-Up of the Vandalized Sign Practicing Democracy in Hudson County? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2971 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2004 at 05:48:08 Subject: Re: Close-Up of the Vandalized Sign I was talking with someone on my block about this yesterday, wondering if the identity of the lookout was now known. My neighbor noted that the accomplice was "some lookout," considering the sprint. I replied, "He was a great lookout. HE WAS LOOKING OUT FOR HIMSELF!" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let's hear it for posted Message 2972 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2004 at 06:56:35 Subject: the HCDO! Rah! Rah! Rah! Hudson County Politics at its best. Next week they promote this kid to DePuppet's Exec. Assistant. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2973 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2004 at 08:58:59 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board! Welcome to the Message Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Heights posted Message 2974 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2004 at 09:47:19 Subject: Re: the HCDO! Rumor on the street is: The kid was paid to do it by one of King's people. This may have all been staged to keep the battle ongoing in the media. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Julia Sourray posted Message 2975 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2004 at 10:26:31 Subject: Computer Well my first 486 clone pre-built non brand name pc was a real shocker. So I later switched to buying brand names like IBM and HP. Well they were more reliable and in my opinion a lot better quality, although a lot of people say they use crappy components. And upgrading them, well in the case of the IBM, I found it impossible to do a simple task like add a second hard drive. I built my latest computer with the help of my cousin. Contained mostly cheap base components, but it works very well, with the exception of one blown power supply. Dealerchallenge casino sport news ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2976 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2004 at 10:59:28 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board! Welcome to the Message Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Honest Abe posted Message 2977 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2004 at 13:09:51 Subject: HudsonGOP.com is a joke !!! Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** your info is wrong posted Message 2978 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2004 at 13:19:01 Subject: I know for a fact I personally know the person named. Has been with HCDO for 2 years & has been bad mouthing Jimmy & this administration since that time. Name calling is one thing...putting your campaign stickers over the other guy's is another...but this was totally uncalled for. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2979 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2004 at 15:01:50 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show for 03/22/04 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2980 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 30, 2004 at 16:33:29 Subject: Re: HudsonGOP.com is a joke !!! : Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? Incredibility is my goal. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Copernicus posted Message 2981 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 06:50:54 Subject: Re: HudsonGOP.com is a joke !!! : : Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? : Incredibility is my goal. Mission accomplished. You now officially serve as butt boy for both Cunningham and Jose Arango. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2982 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 07:35:21 Subject: Jeepers! : : : Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? : : Incredibility is my goal. : Mission accomplished. You now officially serve as butt boy for both Cunningham and Jose Arango. Jeepers! It looks like on the cheat sheets that you guys get handed, Steve Glazer's name's been whiteouted and mine typed in! Note Bene: Whoever's paying, don't let your consultants slip you a bill for this one! The're recycling old material (again). And on a separate but related note, I hope that you-all will be proud to learn that there are well-intentioned and hard working people that have been gravely hurt by gratuitous insults. But, I'm not one of them. I've been struck on the head with a liquor bottle, stabbed, and hit by a car while I was riding a motorcycle. Hunt-and-peck assassins just don't catch my attention. I'm glad that the general public is getting the opportunity to view the process of politics in Hudson County. Here, they can see first hand that the smile and the handshake often is like the facade of a movie set Western town. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kakakakatie posted Message 2983 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 07:52:27 Subject: Glenn's Pals Have you noticed the sweet heart deals Glenn's new pals Florio and Torricelli have gotten? Seems Glenn has a soft spot for thoroughly rejected Dems from the past. He will soon be joining them. Glad to see Monticello Ave is getting money. Does Glenn ever go north of the Square? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2984 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 08:56:53 Subject: politics/payoffs I just read Poliics?payoffs. Interesting reading.What has happened to "My" jersey City in the Last Three and a half years.Its so sad and i really feel sorry for the Taxpayers ,who work so hard and want to live a better life.Help is on the way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2985 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 09:11:09 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board! Welcome to the Message Board! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 2986 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 11:40:56 Subject: Mayor William Gaughan-2005 This would sure be a blessing for Jersey City.No More Land scams,Concert Scams,political ticket Scams or scams in general.And the biggest scam of all-the refinancing scam that was stopped in its track.Help is on the way,good taxpayers of jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Drunk As A Skunk posted Message 2987 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 15:15:16 Subject: Of Wall Township New Jersey In your Dreams Tom Gaynor ........... IT's NEVER GONNA HAPPEN !!! Even Bret Wants Nothing to do with the Crooked HCDO !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Special Ed posted Message 2988 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 15:53:38 Subject: BRAIN DEATH Tom Gaynor is living proof that the body can continue to function for years after the brain has expired and otherwise ceased all function ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBER HIPPY posted Message 2989 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 16:03:53 Subject: Armistice? The only way I can see the HCDO running Gaughan for Mayor is if they want Cunningham to win. As things stand now, Councilman Bill -- with a fight -- possibly could hang onto the Ward D seat. To hope for anything else is gonna be like a lemming parade. ***************** End Of Article ****************** john brown posted Message 2990 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 16:51:49 Subject: Re: Cunningham Ward D Club : : 297 Griffith Street : : (Just off of Kennedy Boulevard) : : Open weekdays from 4:30PM to 9:00PM : : To view a video introduction, please click on the Link. : That has to be the most pathetic thing I ever saw. What a motley bunch. Glenn figures to do just great with this bunch of coconuts. Run Sean run!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** john brown posted Message 2991 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 16:56:52 Subject: Re: Cunningham Ward D Club : : : 297 Griffith Street : : : (Just off of Kennedy Boulevard) : : : Open weekdays from 4:30PM to 9:00PM : : : To view a video introduction, please click on the Link. : : That has to be the most pathetic thing I ever saw. What a motley bunch. Glenn figures to do just great with this bunch of coconuts. Run Sean run!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Anthony posted Message 2992 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 17:57:47 Subject: Re: Jeepers! : : : : Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? : : : Incredibility is my goal. : : Mission accomplished. You now officially serve as butt boy for both Cunningham and Jose Arango. : Jeepers! It looks like on the cheat sheets that you guys get handed, Steve Glazer's name's been whiteouted and mine typed in! : Note Bene: Whoever's paying, don't let your consultants slip you a bill for this one! The're recycling old material (again). : And on a separate but related note, I hope that you-all will be proud to learn that there are well-intentioned and hard working people that have been gravely hurt by gratuitous insults. But, I'm not one of them. I've been struck on the head with a liquor bottle, stabbed, and hit by a car while I was riding a motorcycle. Hunt-and-peck assassins just don't catch my attention. : I'm glad that the general public is getting the opportunity to view the process of politics in Hudson County. Here, they can see first hand that the smile and the handshake often is like the facade of a movie set Western town. All those hard working well intentioned people you talk of are getting slammed by people who you allow to use this site like a bathroom wall. You're a tiny step above the pondscum Glazer, but at least he makes no pretenses as to who or what he is. We know what you are Anthony, as the old saying goes, now we're just haggling price. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2993 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 18:15:35 Subject: Carbo-challenged Chorus Line By the way, now that it's like a Chorus Line of fat ladies (as you very well know, this here is one storm that's not gonna blow-over), is HCDO still the McGreevey Team? Sorta runnin' thin with the false prophets, aint'cha? Howard Dean was gonna deliver the limo, but only coughed up a flat tire! : : : : : Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? : : : : Incredibility is my goal. : : : Mission accomplished. You now officially serve as butt boy for both Cunningham and Jose Arango. : : Jeepers! It looks like on the cheat sheets that you guys get handed, Steve Glazer's name's been whiteouted and mine typed in! : : Note Bene: Whoever's paying, don't let your consultants slip you a bill for this one! The're recycling old material (again). : : And on a separate but related note, I hope that you-all will be proud to learn that there are well-intentioned and hard working people that have been gravely hurt by gratuitous insults. But, I'm not one of them. I've been struck on the head with a liquor bottle, stabbed, and hit by a car while I was riding a motorcycle. Hunt-and-peck assassins just don't catch my attention. : : I'm glad that the general public is getting the opportunity to view the process of politics in Hudson County. Here, they can see first hand that the smile and the handshake often is like the facade of a movie set Western town. : All those hard working well intentioned people you talk of are getting slammed by people who you allow to use this site like a bathroom wall. You're a tiny step above the pondscum Glazer, but at least he makes no pretenses as to who or what he is. We know what you are Anthony, as the old saying goes, now we're just haggling price. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2993 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 18:15:35 Subject: Carbo-challenged Chorus Line By the way, now that it's like a Chorus Line of fat ladies (as you very well know, this here is one storm that's not gonna blow-over), is HCDO still the McGreevey Team? Sorta runnin' thin with the false prophets, aint'cha? Howard Dean was gonna deliver the limo, but only coughed up a flat tire! : : : : : Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? : : : : Incredibility is my goal. : : : Mission accomplished. You now officially serve as butt boy for both Cunningham and Jose Arango. : : Jeepers! It looks like on the cheat sheets that you guys get handed, Steve Glazer's name's been whiteouted and mine typed in! : : Note Bene: Whoever's paying, don't let your consultants slip you a bill for this one! The're recycling old material (again). : : And on a separate but related note, I hope that you-all will be proud to learn that there are well-intentioned and hard working people that have been gravely hurt by gratuitous insults. But, I'm not one of them. I've been struck on the head with a liquor bottle, stabbed, and hit by a car while I was riding a motorcycle. Hunt-and-peck assassins just don't catch my attention. : : I'm glad that the general public is getting the opportunity to view the process of politics in Hudson County. Here, they can see first hand that the smile and the handshake often is like the facade of a movie set Western town. : All those hard working well intentioned people you talk of are getting slammed by people who you allow to use this site like a bathroom wall. You're a tiny step above the pondscum Glazer, but at least he makes no pretenses as to who or what he is. We know what you are Anthony, as the old saying goes, now we're just haggling price. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 2994 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 18:20:25 Subject: Carbo-Challenged Chorus Line By the way, now that it's like a Chorus Line of fat ladies (as you very well know, this here is one storm that's not gonna blow-over), is HCDO still the McGreevey Team? Sorta runnin' through the false prophets pretty fast now, aint'cha? Don't forget Howard Dean. He was gonna deliver the limo, but only coughed up a flat tire! : : : : : Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? : : : : Incredibility is my goal. : : : Mission accomplished. You now officially serve as butt boy for both Cunningham and Jose Arango. : : Jeepers! It looks like on the cheat sheets that you guys get handed, Steve Glazer's name's been whiteouted and mine typed in! : : Note Bene: Whoever's paying, don't let your consultants slip you a bill for this one! The're recycling old material (again). : : And on a separate but related note, I hope that you-all will be proud to learn that there are well-intentioned and hard working people that have been gravely hurt by gratuitous insults. But, I'm not one of them. I've been struck on the head with a liquor bottle, stabbed, and hit by a car while I was riding a motorcycle. Hunt-and-peck assassins just don't catch my attention. : : I'm glad that the general public is getting the opportunity to view the process of politics in Hudson County. Here, they can see first hand that the smile and the handshake often is like the facade of a movie set Western town. : All those hard working well intentioned people you talk of are getting slammed by people who you allow to use this site like a bathroom wall. You're a tiny step above the pondscum Glazer, but at least he makes no pretenses as to who or what he is. We know what you are Anthony, as the old saying goes, now we're just haggling price. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Vi agra Addict posted Message 2995 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 19:07:41 Subject: P E NIS ALSO BROKEN Tom's "Other Head " is also shot. In Short - Crippled. This has created a severe V iagra Addiction which multiple Rehab Stints did not cure. : Tom Gaynor is living proof that the body can continue to function for years after the brain has expired and otherwise ceased all function ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 2996 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 19:14:44 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Otto Von Bismarck posted Message 2997 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 21:40:30 Subject: I'm so confused. Hey Anthony ... I thought Gaughan and Bret were tight. Don't you support everyone your Fearless Leader endorses ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Terrence and Phillip posted Message 2998 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 21:45:15 Subject: Nepotism forever !!! We're guessing that if Gaughan becomes Mayor he'll make one daughter Business Administrator and the other Police Director. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loosey posted Message 2999 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : March 31, 2004 at 22:51:54 Subject: Re: Jose Can You See : By the way, now that it's like a Chorus Line of fat ladies (as you very well know, this here is one storm that's not gonna blow-over), is HCDO still the McGreevey Team? : Sorta runnin' through the false prophets pretty fast now, aint'cha? Don't forget Howard Dean. He was gonna deliver the limo, but only coughed up a flat tire! : : : : : : : Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? : : : : : Incredibility is my goal. : : : : Mission accomplished. You now officially serve as butt boy for both Cunningham and Jose Arango. : : : Jeepers! It looks like on the cheat sheets that you guys get handed, Steve Glazer's name's been whiteouted and mine typed in! : : : Note Bene: Whoever's paying, don't let your consultants slip you a bill for this one! The're recycling old material (again). : : : And on a separate but related note, I hope that you-all will be proud to learn that there are well-intentioned and hard working people that have been gravely hurt by gratuitous insults. But, I'm not one of them. I've been struck on the head with a liquor bottle, stabbed, and hit by a car while I was riding a motorcycle. Hunt-and-peck assassins just don't catch my attention. : : : I'm glad that the general public is getting the opportunity to view the process of politics in Hudson County. Here, they can see first hand that the smile and the handshake often is like the facade of a movie set Western town. : : All those hard working well intentioned people you talk of are getting slammed by people who you allow to use this site like a bathroom wall. You're a tiny step above the pondscum Glazer, but at least he makes no pretenses as to who or what he is. We know what you are Anthony, as the old saying goes, now we're just haggling price. Arango will lead you to the promised land. You were a loser in the 4th grade and you're a loser now. DeLeon for Congress. Mendiola for Senator, Bush for President, Schundler for Governor.When pigs fly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3000 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2004 at 04:18:33 Subject: Something's Happening Mr. Jones : : DeLeon for Congress. Mendiola for Senator, Bush for President, Schundler for Governor.When pigs fly. Well, at least Carmin Mendiola knew how to pick a winner in the 31st Senate race. Until the very end, the HCDO refused to endorse Cunningham. : : By the way, now that it's like a Chorus Line of fat ladies (as you very well know, this here is one storm that's not gonna blow-over), is HCDO still the McGreevey Team? : : Sorta runnin' through the false prophets pretty fast now, aint'cha? Don't forget Howard Dean. He was gonna deliver the limo, but only coughed up a flat tire! : : : : : : : : : Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? : : : : : : Incredibility is my goal. : : : : : Mission accomplished. You now officially serve as butt boy for both Cunningham and Jose Arango. : : : : Jeepers! It looks like on the cheat sheets that you guys get handed, Steve Glazer's name's been whiteouted and mine typed in! : : : : Note Bene: Whoever's paying, don't let your consultants slip you a bill for this one! The're recycling old material (again). : : : : And on a separate but related note, I hope that you-all will be proud to learn that there are well-intentioned and hard working people that have been gravely hurt by gratuitous insults. But, I'm not one of them. I've been struck on the head with a liquor bottle, stabbed, and hit by a car while I was riding a motorcycle. Hunt-and-peck assassins just don't catch my attention. : : : : I'm glad that the general public is getting the opportunity to view the process of politics in Hudson County. Here, they can see first hand that the smile and the handshake often is like the facade of a movie set Western town. : : : All those hard working well intentioned people you talk of are getting slammed by people who you allow to use this site like a bathroom wall. You're a tiny step above the pondscum Glazer, but at least he makes no pretenses as to who or what he is. We know what you are Anthony, as the old saying goes, now we're just haggling price. : Arango will lead you to the promised land. You were a loser in the 4th grade and you're a loser now. DeLeon for Congress. Mendiola for Senator, Bush for President, Schundler for Governor.When pigs fly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** no more scams and deals posted Message 3001 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2004 at 06:53:51 Subject: Of course there would be With idiots like you feeding off the putrid scraps thrown you, all the money can be funnelled into his coffers. And for all your dogged devotion, look at what you have gotten for a reward.... NOTHING! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3002 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2004 at 08:01:09 Subject: Cunningham for Good Government Mayor Cunningham to announce today that he is for "Good &Honest Government"in Jersey City.----April Fool on you Taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3003 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2004 at 08:33:43 Subject: Re: I'm so confused. : Hey Anthony ... I thought Gaughan and Bret were tight. Don't you support everyone your Fearless Leader endorses ? Honestly and basically, it's hard to imagine Councilman Gaughan campaigning south of Journal Square. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loosey posted Message 3004 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2004 at 15:01:51 Subject: Re: Mendiola's Little Problem : : : DeLeon for Congress. Mendiola for Senator, Bush for President, Schundler for Governor.When pigs fly. : Well, at least Carmin Mendiola knew how to pick a winner in the 31st Senate race. Until the very end, the HCDO refused to endorse Cunningham. : : : By the way, now that it's like a Chorus Line of fat ladies (as you very well know, this here is one storm that's not gonna blow-over), is HCDO still the McGreevey Team? : : : Sorta runnin' through the false prophets pretty fast now, aint'cha? Don't forget Howard Dean. He was gonna deliver the limo, but only coughed up a flat tire! : : : : : : : : : : : Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? : : : : : : : Incredibility is my goal. : : : : : : Mission accomplished. You now officially serve as butt boy for both Cunningham and Jose Arango. : : : : : Jeepers! It looks like on the cheat sheets that you guys get handed, Steve Glazer's name's been whiteouted and mine typed in! : : : : : Note Bene: Whoever's paying, don't let your consultants slip you a bill for this one! The're recycling old material (again). : : : : : And on a separate but related note, I hope that you-all will be proud to learn that there are well-intentioned and hard working people that have been gravely hurt by gratuitous insults. But, I'm not one of them. I've been struck on the head with a liquor bottle, stabbed, and hit by a car while I was riding a motorcycle. Hunt-and-peck assassins just don't catch my attention. : : : : : I'm glad that the general public is getting the opportunity to view the process of politics in Hudson County. Here, they can see first hand that the smile and the handshake often is like the facade of a movie set Western town. : : : : All those hard working well intentioned people you talk of are getting slammed by people who you allow to use this site like a bathroom wall. You're a tiny step above the pondscum Glazer, but at least he makes no pretenses as to who or what he is. We know what you are Anthony, as the old saying goes, now we're just haggling price. : : Arango will lead you to the promised land. You were a loser in the 4th grade and you're a loser now. DeLeon for Congress. Mendiola for Senator, Bush for President, Schundler for Governor.When pigs fly. She couldn't vote for Glenn as she doesn't live or is registered to vote in the district. Only Jose and the Hudson GOP would run a non registered voter from out of the County and actually have her win. Then drop out to support the Democrat. You run candidates for Congress who can't speak English, trot out the same tired people all the time and take huge butt kickings and have the nerve to ridicule the HCDO. We'll rule as long as idiots like Jose and Anthony carry the banner. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3005 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2004 at 16:43:52 Subject: Oui, oui, yer derryair! : : : : DeLeon for Congress. Mendiola for Senator, Bush for President, Schundler for Governor.When pigs fly. : : Well, at least Carmin Mendiola knew how to pick a winner in the 31st Senate race. Until the very end, the HCDO refused to endorse Cunningham. : : : : By the way, now that it's like a Chorus Line of fat ladies (as you very well know, this here is one storm that's not gonna blow-over), is HCDO still the McGreevey Team? : : : : Sorta runnin' through the false prophets pretty fast now, aint'cha? Don't forget Howard Dean. He was gonna deliver the limo, but only coughed up a flat tire! : : : : : : : : : : : : : Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? : : : : : : : : Incredibility is my goal. : : : : : : : Mission accomplished. You now officially serve as butt boy for both Cunningham and Jose Arango. : : : : : : Jeepers! It looks like on the cheat sheets that you guys get handed, Steve Glazer's name's been whiteouted and mine typed in! : : : : : : Note Bene: Whoever's paying, don't let your consultants slip you a bill for this one! The're recycling old material (again). : : : : : : And on a separate but related note, I hope that you-all will be proud to learn that there are well-intentioned and hard working people that have been gravely hurt by gratuitous insults. But, I'm not one of them. I've been struck on the head with a liquor bottle, stabbed, and hit by a car while I was riding a motorcycle. Hunt-and-peck assassins just don't catch my attention. : : : : : : I'm glad that the general public is getting the opportunity to view the process of politics in Hudson County. Here, they can see first hand that the smile and the handshake often is like the facade of a movie set Western town. : : : : : All those hard working well intentioned people you talk of are getting slammed by people who you allow to use this site like a bathroom wall. You're a tiny step above the pondscum Glazer, but at least he makes no pretenses as to who or what he is. We know what you are Anthony, as the old saying goes, now we're just haggling price. : : : Arango will lead you to the promised land. You were a loser in the 4th grade and you're a loser now. DeLeon for Congress. Mendiola for Senator, Bush for President, Schundler for Governor.When pigs fly. : She couldn't vote for Glenn as she doesn't live or is registered to vote in the district. Only Jose and the Hudson GOP would run a non registered voter from out of the County and actually have her win. Then drop out to support the Democrat. You run candidates for Congress who can't speak English, trot out the same tired people all the time and take huge butt kickings and have the nerve to ridicule the HCDO. We'll rule as long as idiots like Jose and Anthony carry the banner. Smith and Doria won? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The only south Gaughan posted Message 3006 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2004 at 18:34:47 Subject: Honestly and Basically knows is his home in Wall. Who the hell wants an old, nasty rummy whose Jersey City address is a funeral home? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lovely Rita posted Message 3007 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 01, 2004 at 21:35:32 Subject: Re: Oui, oui, yer derryair! : : : : : DeLeon for Congress. Mendiola for Senator, Bush for President, Schundler for Governor.When pigs fly. : : : Well, at least Carmin Mendiola knew how to pick a winner in the 31st Senate race. Until the very end, the HCDO refused to endorse Cunningham. : : : : : By the way, now that it's like a Chorus Line of fat ladies (as you very well know, this here is one storm that's not gonna blow-over), is HCDO still the McGreevey Team? : : : : : Sorta runnin' through the false prophets pretty fast now, aint'cha? Don't forget Howard Dean. He was gonna deliver the limo, but only coughed up a flat tire! : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Anthony ... you have no credibility. Promoting a party led by Jose Arango ? : : : : : : : : : Incredibility is my goal. : : : : : : : : Mission accomplished. You now officially serve as butt boy for both Cunningham and Jose Arango. : : : : : : : Jeepers! It looks like on the cheat sheets that you guys get handed, Steve Glazer's name's been whiteouted and mine typed in! : : : : : : : Note Bene: Whoever's paying, don't let your consultants slip you a bill for this one! The're recycling old material (again). : : : : : : : And on a separate but related note, I hope that you-all will be proud to learn that there are well-intentioned and hard working people that have been gravely hurt by gratuitous insults. But, I'm not one of them. I've been struck on the head with a liquor bottle, stabbed, and hit by a car while I was riding a motorcycle. Hunt-and-peck assassins just don't catch my attention. : : : : : : : I'm glad that the general public is getting the opportunity to view the process of politics in Hudson County. Here, they can see first hand that the smile and the handshake often is like the facade of a movie set Western town. : : : : : : All those hard working well intentioned people you talk of are getting slammed by people who you allow to use this site like a bathroom wall. You're a tiny step above the pondscum Glazer, but at least he makes no pretenses as to who or what he is. We know what you are Anthony, as the old saying goes, now we're just haggling price. : : : : Arango will lead you to the promised land. You were a loser in the 4th grade and you're a loser now. DeLeon for Congress. Mendiola for Senator, Bush for President, Schundler for Governor.When pigs fly. : : She couldn't vote for Glenn as she doesn't live or is registered to vote in the district. Only Jose and the Hudson GOP would run a non registered voter from out of the County and actually have her win. Then drop out to support the Democrat. You run candidates for Congress who can't speak English, trot out the same tired people all the time and take huge butt kickings and have the nerve to ridicule the HCDO. We'll rule as long as idiots like Jose and Anthony carry the banner. : Smith and Doria won? Manzo and Chiappone get a 2 year ride. Manzo has already made overtures about selling Tony down the river. As the old Brooklyn Bums said, "wait til next year". And Anthony, what about your glorious GOP? Maybe Ira Jersey again? He hasn't been punk slapped in a while. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jose Can You See posted Message 3008 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 02, 2004 at 22:42:27 Subject: Mendiola is out. Word is that Superintendent Epps officially disqualified Mendiola from the Board of Ed. race today. Way to go Charley !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jose Knows Politics posted Message 3009 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 02, 2004 at 23:59:11 Subject: Re: Sly As A Fox : Word is that Superintendent Epps officially disqualified Mendiola from the Board of Ed. race today. : Way to go Charley !! This is all part of Jose's grand plan. Ha! Epps fell right into the trap! There's a method to this madness but not everyone is bright enough to see it. Only Jose, Anthony and maybe Joan Eccleston. Just sit back and watch. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good old red face posted Message 3010 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 03, 2004 at 01:06:41 Subject: Re: Sly As A Fox Joan Eccleston good ol' Joan one of the ugliest white women in jc ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3011 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 03, 2004 at 02:33:15 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RED FACE posted Message 3012 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 03, 2004 at 09:21:27 Subject: Re: Of course there would be Joan Eccleston-------The ugliest white women in Cityhall ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3013 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 03, 2004 at 09:44:29 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** red butt-her posted Message 3014 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 03, 2004 at 11:04:53 Subject: Re: Sly As A Fox Joan Eccleston- one ugly azz women......if that is what she is! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3015 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 03, 2004 at 13:05:54 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3016 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 03, 2004 at 13:21:28 Subject: Announcing that Jersey City is No Longer a Distressed City Announcing that Jersey City is No Longer a Distressed City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay posted Message 3017 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 03, 2004 at 14:08:07 Subject: Re: Jersey City Medical Center-What You Don’t Know Can Kill You What proof, if any do you have to back up these allegations? Did you ever hear of slander? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Larry Ecclestone posted Message 3018 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 03, 2004 at 14:56:32 Subject: Take my wife please !! Here's my wife Joan stealing the spotlight again. I'd kiss Glenn's behind like her, but Lady One hits me with a stick every time I pucker up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3019 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 03, 2004 at 15:06:07 Subject: Hudson County's answer to the GONG SHOW?!?! Knockin' off the lamenheimer posts is gettin' to be too much for one person. Meybe like I should get together a distinguished panel to hit the gong! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3020 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2004 at 15:41:11 Subject: JCHA Scam-$$$$$$ How much has the JCHA scam Cost the Taxpayers of Jersey City? Cunningham must bare the responsibilty once more.It was his call from the beginning just like all the other scams under his watch.Jersey City deserves better. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sick And Tired Of U posted Message 3021 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2004 at 17:39:52 Subject: Re: JCHA Scam-$$$$$$ : How much has the JCHA scam Cost the Taxpayers of Jersey City? Cunningham must bare the responsibilty once more.It was his call from the beginning just like all the other scams under his watch.Jersey City deserves better. >><< IT'S SUNDAY! GIVE IT A REST! THEY R NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU UR JOB BACK! HOW MANY YEARS HAS NANCY PUT UP WITH YOU? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Buster Keaton posted Message 3022 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2004 at 18:05:06 Subject: Lamenheimer. Thy name is Tom Gaynor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Honey posted Message 3023 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2004 at 18:44:40 Subject: Re: JCHA Scam-$$$$$$ : : How much has the JCHA scam Cost the Taxpayers of Jersey City? Cunningham must bare the responsibilty once more.It was his call from the beginning just like all the other scams under his watch.Jersey City deserves better. : >><< IT'S SUNDAY! GIVE IT A REST! THEY R NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU UR JOB BACK! HOW MANY YEARS HAS NANCY PUT UP WITH YOU? Mayor/Senator have nothing to do with Housing Problems, the Board Members hire Mr. T. W. and they admitted to their mistakes at the special meeting last week (Thank God) ***************** End Of Article ****************** honey posted Message 3024 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2004 at 18:48:36 Subject: Re: Nepotism forever !!! : We're guessing that if Gaughan becomes Mayor he'll make one daughter Business Administrator and the other Police Director. Only the Hudson County employees can hire all their family's and get away with it: What a same ***************** End Of Article ****************** Birds of a feather.......................... posted Message 3025 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2004 at 20:20:44 Subject: Re: Nepotism forever !!! : : We're guessing that if Gaughan becomes Mayor he'll make one daughter Business Administrator and the other Police Director. : Only the Hudson County employees can hire all their family's and get away with it: What a same And Sandra Cunningham's new duties is because she's quailified ? All the same $hit no matter if city or county! ***************** End Of Article ****************** honey posted Message 3026 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2004 at 20:51:35 Subject: Re: Nepotism forever !!! : : : We're guessing that if Gaughan becomes Mayor he'll make one daughter Business Administrator and the other Police Director. : : Only the Hudson County employees can hire all their family's and get away with it: What a same : And Sandra Cunningham's new duties is because she's quailified ? : All the same $hit no matter if city or county! Un-Paid Job for Sandy: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Birds of a feather posted Message 3027 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2004 at 21:53:04 Subject: Re: Nepotism forever !!! : : : : We're guessing that if Gaughan becomes Mayor he'll make one daughter Business Administrator and the other Police Director. : : : Only the Hudson County employees can hire all their family's and get away with it: What a same : : And Sandra Cunningham's new duties is because she's quailified ? : : All the same $hit no matter if city or county! : : Un-Paid Job for Sandy: WRONG, they will pay her as soon as the paperwork is done. The salary is over 60,000 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pollyanna posted Message 3028 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2004 at 21:59:27 Subject: True Believers Wake up Honey. The reason Troy Washington was hired was because he's Gene Drayton's partner in crime. Drayton told Mayor Man to hire him. If you believe Cunningham knew nothing and wasn't involved, you are a true believer .. and a fool. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gauguin posted Message 3029 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 04, 2004 at 22:18:57 Subject: Lady One I attended the breakfast announcing the new Council on the Arts and Tourism at the Hyatt the other day. And it was amazing to observe the dynamic between Lady One and Mayor Man. First, Lady One was introduced as the Mistress of Ceremonies. Has kind of an odd sound to it. She gave a short, loud and very unimaginative speech regarding this new group. And her primary cheerleader was Mayor Man. Sitting at the table in front of her, and clapping wildly like a trained seal at almost every phrase she uttered. Then she introduced her hubby, Mayor Man, as "the man with the vision". I almost fell off my chair. His speech was almost incoherent, including a rather lame joke about the Statue of Liberty. These two are obviously devoted to one another. However, it's clear that Lady One drives his agenda as well as the City's. Between the two of them, there is neither vision or the real competence to govern the City properly. Add to that, their turning a blind eye to the corruption rampant among their lackeys and supporters, and it's a prescription for disaster for Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glenn2005 posted Message 3030 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 05, 2004 at 11:54:56 Subject: Bret Running For Governor From THE AUDITOR: Schundler's footsie In an act of apparent treason against the party, several Democratic mayors in Hudson County have been pressing Republican Bret Schundler to run for mayor of Jersey City, according to several reliable sources. Their hope was that Schundler could beat the incumbent Democrat, Glenn Cunningham, who is engaged in a bitter rivalry with the party establishment in Hudson County. Schundler considered their pleas for months but decided recently that he will not run for mayor. His eyes are on the prize at Drumthwacket. "He is very, very likely to run for governor," says Sal Risovalto, an adviser. Schundler informed the mayors of his decision before leaving on a trip to South Korea last week, where he is speaking about the benefits of the free enterprise system at a few universities, according to Risovalto. Cunningham says the draft-Schundler effort was led by U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez. "Definitely, it was Menendez," he says. "But in Jersey City we don't let our mayors be picked by outsiders." ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJ Senate Democrats posted Message 3031 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 05, 2004 at 13:08:16 Subject: HUDSON SENATORS HONOR ST. ANTHONY'S BOYS BASKETBALL TEAM April 5, 2004 FOR RELEASE: Immediate CONTACT: Cara Noel Tel: (609) 292-5215 Fax: (609) 633-7254 HUDSON SENATORS HONOR ST. ANTHONY'S BOYS BASKETBALL TEAM TRENTON - A resolution sponsored by the Hudson County Senate delegation - Glenn D. Cunningham, Nicholas J. Sacco and Majority Leader Bernard F. Kenny, Jr., honoring the 2003-2004 high school state boys basketball champions from St. Anthony High School in Jersey City has been approved unanimously by the Senate. "As a native of Jersey City, I am honored to welcome the St. Anthony boys basketball team to Trenton," said Senator Cunningham, who is also the mayor of Jersey City. "With us today are members of that fantastic team, who had a 30-0 record this season. I am honored that it was a Jersey City school that produced such an outstanding group of athletes." "This squad is outstanding, not only in its play, but in the fact that they are a true team and stick together," said Senator Sacco. "I commend every player, Coach (Bob) Hurley and his staff for a great year - a year you really deserved." "A major part of this group's success comes from the support of the school and its faculty," said Senator Kenny. "I am proud to join with my colleagues in honoring one of the greatest basketball programs in the state of New Jersey." According to the resolution, the squad is 1 of only 4 teams in the school's history to complete an undefeated season. The team is ranked number 1 in the state, and it is ranked number 2 in the nation by USA Today. The members of this championship team are: Derrick Mercer, Marcus Williams, Ahmad Mosby, Ralph Fernandez, Miles Beatty, Justin Lewis, Shelton Gibbs, Sean McCurey, Otis Campbell, Qaysir Woods, Linoll Mercedes, Robert Bullock, Ahmad Nivens, Barney Anderson, David Bullock and Eric Centino. The resolution also recognized Head Coach Hurley; Assistant Coaches Ben Gamble, Tom Pushie, Darren Erman and Dan McLaughlin; team Trainer Phil Miller; and Managers John Cicchetti and Harry Traina. Members of the team were in attendance as well as Coach Hurley and the school's vice-principal, Sister Mary Alan. Team seniors Marcus Williams, Ahmad Mosby, Shelton Gibbs, Otis Campbell, as well as Coach Hurley and Sister Alan posed for photographs with Senate President Codey, Majority Leader Kenny and Senators Cunningham and Sacco. ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBETHIPPY posted Message 3032 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 05, 2004 at 16:01:57 Subject: Let's GET NJ Back On Track! : From THE AUDITOR: : Schundler's footsie : : In an act of apparent treason against the party, several Democratic mayors in Hudson County have been pressing Republican Bret Schundler to run for mayor of Jersey City, according to several reliable sources. Their hope was that Schundler could beat the incumbent Democrat, Glenn Cunningham, who is engaged in a bitter rivalry with the party establishment in Hudson County. Schundler considered their pleas for months but decided recently that he will not run for mayor. His eyes are on the prize at Drumthwacket. : "He is very, very likely to run for governor," says Sal Risovalto, an adviser. Schundler informed the mayors of his decision before leaving on a trip to South Korea last week, where he is speaking about the benefits of the free enterprise system at a few universities, according to Risovalto. : Cunningham says the draft-Schundler effort was led by U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez. "Definitely, it was Menendez," he says. "But in Jersey City we don't let our mayors be picked by outsiders." ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Punisher posted Message 3033 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 05, 2004 at 21:44:50 Subject: McGreevey's Salvation Jim McGreevey is praying that Schundler runs against him again. Bret is the one candidate he knows he can beat. New Jersey will not elect an ultraconservative, right to life Republican. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3034 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 06, 2004 at 03:38:17 Subject: Yet Another HCDO Poll?!?! I wish I had a nickel for every HCDO poll that's rolled down the telephone wires of late. Even better yet would be the small fortune that they've actually paid for these sight-seeing trips into foggy futuretown. The HCDO has run so many polls, at this point you'd think they know how the various Journal Square panhandlers would fare against Ronald McDonald in any (and every) local election! But nope, wordzout that that Rolling Stones of politics, the HCDO, felt the need for yet another survey to learn what the Jersey City voters REALLY feel about Ward D Councilman Bill Gaughan. Story is that the HIGH NEGATIVES of the putative standard-bearer in the upcoming Jersey City municipal joust sent all of HCDO Hq on Washburn Street into a deep state of depression. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3035 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 06, 2004 at 05:28:29 Subject: Jimmy King's Billboard Ambling down Summit Avenue yesterday I had the opportunity to view the resplendent repaired King Association Billboard. It's sorta like a symbol of the Easter Season, rising up from its sorrows at the side of the road. Now, as my fans well know, I'm not one to p1ss in the punch. And, (I'll admit), I've not been able to find my spectacles for 2 days now. But, with the smallish pictures and the regular hurricane of text, can like regular Joe or Jane Citizen make any sense of the sign? Especially whizzing by at 35 mph? The billboard is too far away from the light for stopped traffic to do much perusing. Even that'll be only the first couple of vehicles, at best. Anyhow though, I hear that if you use a pair of binoculars while looking out the window from 595 Newark Avenue, Jimmy King's sign reads like the front page of the Daily News. . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Letter to the Editor: The Bergen News/Sun Bulleting posted Message 3036 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 06, 2004 at 06:19:10 Subject: Xanadu plan imperils light-rail plan To the Editor: As a sophomore at Tenafly High School, I recently undertook a project to document the impact of a Light Rail service to Tenafly as outlined by New Jersey Transit's plan to extend its Hudson-Bergen Light Rail (H-BLR) Line. In the process of making the documentary, I sat down with Albert Cafiero, Tenafly Light Rail Committee member and former Bergen County Transit Committee Chairman. Mr. Cafiero is regarded as one of the most knowledgeable on the subject of Light Rail. "Trolley service is the greatest modern technology we ever threw away," said Mr. Cafiero as we drove along the railroad tracks through Tenafly. In fact, even before the years in which Robert Moses and his Triboro Bridge and Tunnel Authority set out to dominate New York City's public works construction and starve mass transit of necessary development had the fall of rail to the automobile begun. The destruction of Pennsylvania Station made it a reality. The clear result; each morning on the George Washington Bridge cars full of commuters claw their way into New York City for work. The five towns along the proposed H-BLR route (Ridgefield Park, Palisades Park, Leonia, Englewood and Tenafly) would be provided with an efficient alternate to bus service and automobile. In my research, I found Light Rail, in addition to significant travel convenience within its serviced towns and surrounding communities, would bring a boost to the development and economy of downtown areas (preparations have been in effect in both Tenafly and Englewood). With passengers off the road and on the rail, the entire East Bergen area would feasibly be relieved of its chronic traffic congestion. Unfortunately, at the center of the force standing to derail these plans is Congressman Steve Rothman (D-Dist. 9). Rothman believes that getting trains to the newly developed Xanadu Family Entertainment Complex at the Meadowlands is a top priority. Yet the congressman should not be concerned with the unpredictable and unreliable estimates of ridership to a private interest as Xanadu but on the solid, stable matter of fact that each and every morning and afternoon on a daily basis commuters are in dire need of an efficient alternative work commute. Granted, Rothman's plans to service the Xanadu complex do find an alternative for East Bergen communities along the planned H-BLR route; an alternative to the plan itself. The price to pay: diesel powered diesel multiple units (DMU) instead of the quick and quiet electric trolleys that have effectively serviced the existent HBLR from Hoboken to Bayonne, a route that I had the pleasure to travel with the highest regard. In addition to my personal reviews was a unanimous concurring of transportation experts interviewed for my documentary. This panel, including a former NJNJ Port Authority engineer, a Metropolitan Transit Authority officer, Mr. Cafiero, and Tenatly Mayor Peter Rustin all dwelled ecstatically on the success and efficiency of the electric trolley cars that Tenatly could expect. Yet the chance for Congressman Rothman to fulfill his long-awaited dream of opening the privately-owned Xanadu complex in addition to his constant advocacy of a cross-country railroad would ensure a spread of the congressman's influence beyond his district, the very district whose citizens elected Mr. Rothman to power and are in need of a faster commute. Yet Mr. Rothman seems to believe the voting public can wait. At this moment, the citizens' needs are being overshadowed by the congressman's alternative agenda and a continuous silence on the issue of Light Rail, a project whose desperately needed Federal Transit Administration funds are highly dependent upon Congressman Rothman's support of the program. Along with the downgrading of trolley cars would come the implementation of a plan even more detrimental to commuting than if we stayed with the current commute. Reaching Weehawken would require a train transfer instead of a direct shuttle. Congressman Rothman, who associates himself so strongly with transportation, should focus more on the success of the new Port Imperial Ferry Terminal. In addition to Port Imperial, a second project on the Manhattan side of the Hudson River is part of an effort to fully utilize the rapidly growing usage and popularity of ferry service. These terminals will help ferry service develop to its fullest potential as a valuable resource of New York-New Jersey travel while feeding directly into the H-BLR. However, DMU cars would be inaccessible to the new terminal because of a tunnel just north of the Light Rail station being constructed at the port. Instead, because ofthe DMU's diesel engines unable to travel through the tunnel, all rail traffic north of Port Imperial along the H-BLR would be diverted to North Bergen where an inconvenient change of trains would be required. I urge Congressman Rothman to rethink his top priorities in an order that serves the people he was elected to represent. I second the call upon Representative Scott Garrett (R-Dist. 5) to help lead East Bergen's future on the right track before we get stuck in traffic. Zach Silber ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3037 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 06, 2004 at 07:41:41 Subject: Who is responsible for JCHA Waste of Taxpayers $$ Wait till you hear the spin on this one from the So -Called Mayor Office.Stand up like a man ,Cunningham.It was your call and your Scam. Case Closed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3038 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 06, 2004 at 13:52:29 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show For April 5, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Investigate Xanadu Connection posted Message 3039 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 06, 2004 at 16:51:35 Subject: Xanadu = Menendez GoldMine Boss Menendez's Lady Friend Kay Licausi has a Public Relations Contract with Xanadu Worth Millions. The entire project is a Menendez Gold Mine. : To the Editor: : As a sophomore at Tenafly High School, I recently undertook a project to document the impact of a Light Rail service to Tenafly as outlined by New Jersey Transit's plan to extend its Hudson-Bergen Light Rail (H-BLR) Line. : In the process of making the documentary, I sat down with Albert Cafiero, Tenafly Light Rail Committee member and former Bergen County Transit : Committee Chairman. Mr. Cafiero is regarded as one of the most knowledgeable on the subject of Light Rail. "Trolley service is the greatest modern technology we ever threw away," said Mr. Cafiero as we drove along the railroad tracks through Tenafly. In fact, even before the years in which Robert Moses and his Triboro Bridge and Tunnel Authority set out to dominate New York City's public works construction and starve mass transit of necessary development had the fall of rail to the automobile begun. The destruction of Pennsylvania Station made it a reality. The clear result; each morning on the George Washington Bridge cars full of : commuters claw their way into New York City for work. : The five towns along the proposed H-BLR route (Ridgefield Park, Palisades Park, Leonia, Englewood and Tenafly) would be provided with an efficient alternate to bus service and : automobile. In my research, I found Light Rail, in addition to significant travel convenience within its serviced towns and surrounding communities, would bring a boost to the development and economy of downtown areas (preparations : have been in effect in both Tenafly and Englewood). With passengers off the road and on the rail, the entire East Bergen area would feasibly be relieved of its chronic traffic congestion. : Unfortunately, at the center of the force standing to derail : these plans is Congressman Steve Rothman (D-Dist. 9). Rothman believes that getting trains to the newly developed Xanadu Family Entertainment Complex at the Meadowlands is a top priority. Yet the congressman should not be concerned with the unpredictable and unreliable estimates of ridership to a private interest as : Xanadu but on the solid, stable matter of fact that each and every morning and afternoon on a daily basis commuters are in dire need of an efficient alternative work commute. Granted, Rothman's plans to service the Xanadu complex do find an alternative for East Bergen communities along the planned H-BLR route; an alternative to the plan itself. The price to pay: diesel powered diesel multiple units (DMU) instead of the quick and quiet electric trolleys that have effectively serviced the existent HBLR from Hoboken to Bayonne, a route that I had the pleasure to travel with the highest regard. In addition to my personal reviews was a unanimous concurring of transportation experts interviewed for my documentary. This panel, including a former NJNJ Port : Authority engineer, a Metropolitan Transit Authority officer, Mr. Cafiero, and : Tenatly Mayor Peter Rustin all dwelled ecstatically on the success and efficiency of the electric trolley cars that Tenatly : could expect. : Yet the chance for Congressman Rothman to fulfill his long-awaited dream of : opening the privately-owned Xanadu complex in addition to his constant advocacy of a cross-country railroad would ensure a spread of the congressman's influence beyond his district, the very district whose citizens elected Mr. Rothman to power and are in need of a faster commute. Yet Mr. Rothman seems to believe : the voting public can wait. At this moment, the citizens' needs are being overshadowed by the congressman's alternative agenda and a continuous silence on the issue of Light Rail, a project whose desperately needed Federal Transit : Administration funds are highly dependent upon Congressman Rothman's support of the program. : Along with the downgrading of trolley cars would come the implementation of a plan even more detrimental to commuting than if we stayed with the current commute. Reaching Weehawken would require a train transfer instead of a direct : shuttle. Congressman Rothman, who associates himself so strongly with transportation, should focus more on the success of the new Port Imperial Ferry Terminal. In addition to Port Imperial, a second project on the Manhattan : side of the Hudson River is part of an effort to fully utilize the rapidly growing usage and popularity of ferry service. These terminals will help ferry : service develop to its fullest potential as a valuable resource of New York-New Jersey travel while feeding directly into the H-BLR. However, DMU cars would be inaccessible to the new terminal because of a tunnel just north of the Light : Rail station being constructed at the port. Instead, because ofthe DMU's diesel engines unable to travel through the tunnel, all rail traffic north of Port Imperial along the H-BLR would be diverted to North Bergen where an inconvenient : change of trains would be required. : I urge Congressman Rothman to rethink his top priorities in an order that serves : the people he was elected to : represent. I second the call upon Representative Scott Garrett (R-Dist. 5) to help lead East Bergen's future on the right track before we get stuck in traffic. : Zach Silber ***************** End Of Article ****************** No One But You posted Message 3040 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 06, 2004 at 18:00:49 Subject: Re: Who is responsible for Waste of Taxpayers $$ Wait till you hear Gaynor's spin on this one from a State office in Newark where he posts from. Stand up like a man ,Gayor. It is your call. Case Closed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3041 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 06, 2004 at 19:10:35 Subject: My computer and My Time Sorry part of the scam gang. This is my Home computer And my Time .In order to stop the scams going on in Jersey City and you know it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hassan posted Message 3042 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 06, 2004 at 21:23:58 Subject: Re: HUDSON SENATORS HONOR ST. ANTHONY'S BOYS BASKETBALL TEAM : April 5, 2004 : FOR RELEASE: Immediate : CONTACT: Cara Noel : Tel: (609) 292-5215 : Fax: (609) 633-7254 : HUDSON SENATORS HONOR ST. ANTHONY'S BOYS BASKETBALL TEAM : TRENTON - A resolution sponsored by the Hudson County Senate delegation - Glenn D. Cunningham, Nicholas J. Sacco and Majority Leader Bernard F. Kenny, Jr., honoring the 2003-2004 high school state boys basketball champions from St. Anthony High School in Jersey City has been approved unanimously by the Senate. : "As a native of Jersey City, I am honored to welcome the St. Anthony boys basketball team to Trenton," said Senator Cunningham, who is also the mayor of Jersey City. "With us today are members of that fantastic team, who had a 30-0 record this season. I am honored that it was a Jersey City school that produced such an outstanding group of athletes." : "This squad is outstanding, not only in its play, but in the fact that they are a true team and stick together," said Senator Sacco. "I commend every player, Coach (Bob) Hurley and his staff for a great year - a year you really deserved." : "A major part of this group's success comes from the support of the school and its faculty," said Senator Kenny. "I am proud to join with my colleagues in honoring one of the greatest basketball programs in the state of New Jersey." : According to the resolution, the squad is 1 of only 4 teams in the school's history to complete an undefeated season. The team is ranked number 1 in the state, and it is ranked number 2 in the nation by USA Today. The members of this championship team are: Derrick Mercer, Marcus Williams, Ahmad Mosby, Ralph Fernandez, Miles Beatty, Justin Lewis, Shelton Gibbs, Sean McCurey, Otis Campbell, Qaysir Woods, Linoll Mercedes, Robert Bullock, Ahmad Nivens, Barney Anderson, David Bullock and Eric Centino. The resolution also recognized Head Coach Hurley; Assistant Coaches Ben Gamble, Tom Pushie, Darren Erman and Dan McLaughlin; team Trainer Phil Miller; and Managers John Cicchetti and Harry Traina. : Members of the team were in attendance as well as Coach Hurley and the school's vice-principal, Sister Mary Alan. : Team seniors Marcus Williams, Ahmad Mosby, Shelton Gibbs, Otis Campbell, as well as Coach Hurley and Sister Alan posed for photographs with Senate President Codey, Majority Leader Kenny and Senators Cunningham and Sacco. : ### Thank God for a positive role model we have in our community, Mr.B.Hurley was there for my son's Halim and Ali also my daughter Hassanan which is now teaching at St. Anthony's High School she completed Bloomfied College in May of 2003(Basketball Scholarship)One thing for sure these children will get a free ticket into College, I'm sure God have something special for Mr. Hurley for the great work he's done for our children in the community keep up the good work Bob: ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Scooter posted Message 3043 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 06, 2004 at 23:01:42 Subject: HOLY COW !!!!!!!! You know how to use a computer ? Who knew ? You sure you aren't Nancy ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** DonMclean posted Message 3044 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 07, 2004 at 09:21:56 Subject: Conman Cunningham Conman Cunningham Those improvers of the breed who might frequent racetracks on occasion may be familiar with a horse named Conman Cunningham. In fact, he has won a few races just like his namesake residing in the Jersey City Mayor’s Office – Conman Glenn Cunningham. When Cunningham, the mayor not the horse, was elected Mayor three years ago he started shouting from the rooftops that the former administration headed by Mayor Bret Schundler and then Council President Tom DeGise and Councilman Bill Gaughan had left Cunningham a $57 million deficit. He was so adamant that he attempted to use it as a bargaining chip with Governor Jim McGreevey. Well, the lack of veracity of that claim came to pass this year with the disclosure that the city actually has a surplus and is using $21.7 million of it to help plug the budget. How do you end up with a surplus, which actually exceeds $21.7 million after claiming you were left with a $57 million deficit? Conman Cunningham or Conman Cunningham? At least the horse gives you an honest effort when he runs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Observations posted Message 3045 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 07, 2004 at 11:10:40 Subject: Re: Announcing that Jersey City is No Longer a Distressed City Isn't that Joan Young standing behind Mayor Maniac? Perfect place for her to be so she can kiss his ass again and again. : Announcing that Jersey City is No Longer a Distressed City ***************** End Of Article ****************** News From NJ Senate Democrats posted Message 3046 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 07, 2004 at 17:48:34 Subject: CUNNINGHAM: DYFS SHOULD MONITOR IMMIGRANT CHILDREN, AND WORK WITH POLICE TO TAKE PREVENTATIVE MEASURES TO CHILD WELFARE News From NJ Senate Democrats April 7, 2004 FOR RELEASE: Immediate CONTACT: Cara Noel Tel: (609) 292-5215 Fax: (609) 633-7254 CUNNINGHAM: DYFS SHOULD MONITOR IMMIGRANT CHILDREN, AND WORK WITH POLICE TO TAKE PREVENTATIVE MEASURES TO CHILD WELFARE TRENTON - During today's hearing of the Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee, Senator Glenn D. Cunningham called for the Division of Youth and Family Services (DYFS) to monitor children of undocumented immigrants, within the child welfare system, as well as work with police officers to take preventative measures when dealing with the state's children. Human Services Commissioner James M. Davy noted that under DYFS' new plan, more attention would be paid to adolescents within the child welfare system. The Commissioner noted that these children have a hard time finding foster care and other services because they are older. "One out of every three children in the state has parents that are undocumented immigrants," said Senator Cunningham, D-Hudson, who is also a member of the Budget and Appropriations panel. "What happens to these children that come through the child welfare system, but are ineligible for assistance once they reach the age of 18? We cannot afford to let these children fall by the wayside." Senator Cunningham also noted that it is easier to prevent child welfare problems, than to deal with later repercussions. By monitoring children early, potential problems may be prevented, said Senator Cunningham. "As a retired police officer, I know that there are certain issues dealing with child welfare that would be greatly improved with the help of police officers," said Senator Cunningham, D-Hudson. "Police officers are in the community and get to know the residents. By creating a shared database between police departments and DYFS, they can work together and use preventative and early warning services to achieve a common goal, protecting our children. Today's hearing was among the first set of hearings by the Senate Budget and Appropriations panel on the proposed budget for fiscal year 2005. ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** American Pie posted Message 3047 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 07, 2004 at 23:51:55 Subject: Bye-Bye Drive your Chevy to the levy, Don. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lovely Rita posted Message 3048 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 08, 2004 at 00:43:13 Subject: Re: CUNNINGHAM: DYFS SHOULD MONITOR IMMIGRANT CHILDREN, AND WORK WITH POLICE TO TAKE PREVENTATIVE MEASURES TO CHILD WELFARE : News From NJ Senate Democrats : April 7, 2004 : FOR RELEASE: Immediate : CONTACT: Cara Noel : Tel: (609) 292-5215 : Fax: (609) 633-7254 : CUNNINGHAM: DYFS SHOULD MONITOR IMMIGRANT CHILDREN, AND WORK WITH POLICE TO TAKE PREVENTATIVE MEASURES TO CHILD WELFARE : TRENTON - During today's hearing of the Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee, Senator Glenn D. Cunningham called for the Division of Youth and Family Services (DYFS) to monitor children of undocumented immigrants, within the child welfare system, as well as work with police officers to take preventative measures when dealing with the state's children. : Human Services Commissioner James M. Davy noted that under DYFS' new plan, more attention would be paid to adolescents within the child welfare system. The Commissioner noted that these children have a hard time finding foster care and other services because they are older. : "One out of every three children in the state has parents that are undocumented immigrants," said Senator Cunningham, D-Hudson, who is also a member of the Budget and Appropriations panel. "What happens to these children that come through the child welfare system, but are ineligible for assistance once they reach the age of 18? We cannot afford to let these children fall by the wayside." : Senator Cunningham also noted that it is easier to prevent child welfare problems, than to deal with later repercussions. By monitoring children early, potential problems may be prevented, said Senator Cunningham. : "As a retired police officer, I know that there are certain issues dealing with child welfare that would be greatly improved with the help of police officers," said Senator Cunningham, D-Hudson. "Police officers are in the community and get to know the residents. By creating a shared database between police departments and DYFS, they can work together and use preventative and early warning services to achieve a common goal, protecting our children. : Today's hearing was among the first set of hearings by the Senate Budget and Appropriations panel on the proposed budget for fiscal year 2005. : ### If Glenn wrote or said that then I'm the Queen of England. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Friar Tuck posted Message 3049 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 08, 2004 at 00:48:52 Subject: Re: HUDSON SENATORS HONOR ST. ANTHONY'S BOYS BASKETBALL TEAM : April 5, 2004 : FOR RELEASE: Immediate : CONTACT: Cara Noel : Tel: (609) 292-5215 : Fax: (609) 633-7254 : HUDSON SENATORS HONOR ST. ANTHONY'S BOYS BASKETBALL TEAM : TRENTON - A resolution sponsored by the Hudson County Senate delegation - Glenn D. Cunningham, Nicholas J. Sacco and Majority Leader Bernard F. Kenny, Jr., honoring the 2003-2004 high school state boys basketball champions from St. Anthony High School in Jersey City has been approved unanimously by the Senate. : "As a native of Jersey City, I am honored to welcome the St. Anthony boys basketball team to Trenton," said Senator Cunningham, who is also the mayor of Jersey City. "With us today are members of that fantastic team, who had a 30-0 record this season. I am honored that it was a Jersey City school that produced such an outstanding group of athletes." : "This squad is outstanding, not only in its play, but in the fact that they are a true team and stick together," said Senator Sacco. "I commend every player, Coach (Bob) Hurley and his staff for a great year - a year you really deserved." : "A major part of this group's success comes from the support of the school and its faculty," said Senator Kenny. "I am proud to join with my colleagues in honoring one of the greatest basketball programs in the state of New Jersey." : According to the resolution, the squad is 1 of only 4 teams in the school's history to complete an undefeated season. The team is ranked number 1 in the state, and it is ranked number 2 in the nation by USA Today. The members of this championship team are: Derrick Mercer, Marcus Williams, Ahmad Mosby, Ralph Fernandez, Miles Beatty, Justin Lewis, Shelton Gibbs, Sean McCurey, Otis Campbell, Qaysir Woods, Linoll Mercedes, Robert Bullock, Ahmad Nivens, Barney Anderson, David Bullock and Eric Centino. The resolution also recognized Head Coach Hurley; Assistant Coaches Ben Gamble, Tom Pushie, Darren Erman and Dan McLaughlin; team Trainer Phil Miller; and Managers John Cicchetti and Harry Traina. : Members of the team were in attendance as well as Coach Hurley and the school's vice-principal, Sister Mary Alan. : Team seniors Marcus Williams, Ahmad Mosby, Shelton Gibbs, Otis Campbell, as well as Coach Hurley and Sister Alan posed for photographs with Senate President Codey, Majority Leader Kenny and Senators Cunningham and Sacco. : ### Notice how the idiot goes right to the center of the photo op. Iwent to every local game this year and this clown didn't come to one game. saw DeGise, O'Dea, Manzo, Brennan and others but mayor man only comes to the photo op. A real phoney. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3050 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 08, 2004 at 05:23:36 Subject: Glenn Cunningham is Mayor of Jersey City and a State Senator. : Notice how the idiot goes right to the center of the photo op. Iwent to every local game this year and this clown didn't come to one game. saw DeGise, O'Dea, Manzo, Brennan and others but mayor man only comes to the photo op. A real phoney. - - - I'd assume, as Glenn is both a Hudson State Senator and the Mayor of Jersey City (where St. Anthony's is located), Senate President Codey decided to present the proclamation with Senator Cunningham. If there are photos/press releases of other elected officials honoring the team, send them to GET NJ to be posted here. Thanks to the NJ Senate Democrats, GET NJ received this announcement and image. Nobody else has provided any other material. Also, for all schools, little league teams, etc., I'd be very happy to post (on a general Page) schedules, scores, photos, press releases of honors, or pretty much anything that you'd like. If people wouled find it useful, I could install a Message Board dedicated to Hudson County amateur sports. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3051 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 08, 2004 at 13:04:13 Subject: It's SO QUIET! Jeepers, since the message about Tom Gaynor using a NJ State computer to post, we been stuck in a Sprint commercial with that damn pin droppin'! Whoever the Shadow is, would you like to let on how you derived that little informational pearl? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3052 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 08, 2004 at 18:21:16 Subject: My Computer on My Time I am still here keeping a close eye on the Conman and his Scams.On his hangers-oners concerned they may lose monet tree? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaynor Plead Insanity Defense posted Message 3053 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 08, 2004 at 19:46:14 Subject: Investigate Tom Gaynor Lets all contact the State and ask that this windbag Gaynor Stop posting on State computers WHEN HE IS SHOULD REALLY BE WORKING. Where exactly is Gaynor committing this THEFT OF TIME ?? Inquiring Minds Want to Know ! : I am still here keeping a close eye on the Conman and his Scams.On his hangers-oners concerned they may lose monet tree? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3054 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 06:42:32 Subject: NJN Video: Cunningham and Kean on the Millionaires' Tax State Senators Glenn Cunningham and Tom Kean, Jr. tell their opinions on the proposed millionaires' tax to Michael Aron of NJN News. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3055 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 08:46:21 Subject: Cunninghams Crime Family Who is really the head of Cunninghams Crime Family?Jersey City Taxpayers have a right to know.Scams are a way of life for this Gang in City Hall.2005 will be a time of change.Bring back Honest government to Jersey City.My computer &My time. Sorry GoFers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** It's mine, It's mine........gimmmie,gimmie, gimmie! posted Message 3056 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 09:12:11 Subject: Re: Bye-Bye I did but the levy was dry. Jakson, Cardwell and Mayor Man $ucked the life out of it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** U R A LOSER posted Message 3057 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 10:07:00 Subject: Idiot There R a lot of hard working people in City Hall. But U R so fixated on a few U lump everyone together. U think those crooks at the County give a rats rear about U? If they did, U & poor Nancy would be working there. Loser. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaynors R Blackballed posted Message 3058 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 14:48:17 Subject: Face It Gaynor Face It Tom Gaynor - Stop being an IDIOT ! You and the "Lovely" Nancy are BLACKBALLED by HCDO Leaders Menendez and Kenny. Your so called "good Friend" Tom De Puppet is POWERLESS - But not too powerless to hire his own sister. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET IT ???? Menendez & Kenny are the Evil Ones !! WAKE UP !!!! In Basketball Mentality try to understand it- it is simple The Coach of Your Team - NEVER EVER WANTS YOU TO PLAY ! Stop being their Cheerleader !! : There R a lot of hard working people in City Hall. : But U R so fixated on a few U lump everyone together. : U think those crooks at the County give a rats rear about U? If they did, U & poor Nancy would be working there. : Loser. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Snicker posted Message 3059 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 16:24:34 Subject: Tom Gaynor and Bill Ayala....perfect together These two jokers should be banished to Bayonne forever. ***************** End Of Article ****************** clarke kent posted Message 3060 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 17:51:34 Subject: politics What's going on with the federal probe Re: Dennis Enright ***************** End Of Article ****************** jimmy olsen posted Message 3061 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 17:55:39 Subject: Dennis Enright , US ATT. Investigating? The rumors been around for a while, expect more subpeonas soon Christie isn't done yet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lois Lane posted Message 3062 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 19:55:21 Subject: What's with this? What's with the banner at top asking if you're lonely & saying that you shouldn't be cause there are 2 users? If there are only 2 users (excluding me-lol) Anthony, your board is in trouble. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Snicker Doodle posted Message 3063 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 19:56:39 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor and Bill Ayala....perfect together You can't do that to Bayonne. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3064 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 20:15:58 Subject: The banner lets you know if people are Online here at the Board with you. : What's with the banner at top asking if you're lonely & saying that you shouldn't be cause there are 2 users? : If there are only 2 users (excluding me-lol) Anthony, your board is in trouble. The code updates every few minutes. When it says that there are two visitors that means that someone else is visiting the GET NJ Hudson County Politics Message Board at the same time that you are. If it says there are 5 visitors, then you and 4 other people are visiting this particular Board right AT THE SAME TIME. As people come and go, the count updates every few minutes. The banner doesn't keep track of visitors at any other Pages of the Site -- only at the Main Page of the Hudson County Politics Message Board. I knew that it would be sorta slow over a holiday weekend. But, I wanted to update the Page during slack tide, so to speak. I'm also going to have a banner that'll only be on the Page when I'm visiting the Board. Weekdays, all of GET NJ (not including relates Sites) regularly gets over 4,000 visitors daily. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Happy happy joy joy posted Message 3065 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 20:36:56 Subject: Re: The banner lets you know if people are Online here at the Board with you. o' Yippie we will know when Anthony is here. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Perry White posted Message 3066 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 21:03:42 Subject: Good Job Anthony ! As Editor of the Daily Planet I would like to thank Anthony for his time and effort in maintaing a wonderful web site. Great Ceasars Ghost .......Please do something about that Gaynor Fool. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3067 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 21:55:54 Subject: Re: Good Job Anthony ! : As Editor of the Daily Planet I would like to thank Anthony for his time and effort in maintaing a wonderful web site. : Great Ceasars Ghost .......Please do something about that Gaynor Fool. I'm still waiting for Sherlock to illuminate the post about a NJ State computer in Newark. . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** What three are out here? posted Message 3068 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 21:58:51 Subject: tell me more tell me more :0) ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3069 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 21:59:39 Subject: Re: The banner lets you know if people are Online here at the Board with you. : o' Yippie we will know when Anthony is here. You can use uberYippie.com if you want. But, UBERHIPPY.com works faster! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3070 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 22:00:59 Subject: Re: tell me more tell me more : :0) Sortuv like a seance, ain't it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lex Luthor posted Message 3071 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 22:35:49 Subject: Hopefully ... They're looking at Tom Calvanico as well. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WOO HOO posted Message 3072 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 09, 2004 at 23:40:18 Subject: Re: The banner lets you know if people are Online here at the Board with you. : : o' Yippie UBERHIPPY MADE A FUNNY! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3073 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 12, 2004 at 06:58:14 Subject: Asbury Park Press: Speaker's town his pay-to-playground Speaker's town his pay-to-playground Published April 11 in the Asbury Park Press By TOM TRONCONE STAFF WRITER If you want a no-bid town contract in West New York, it pays to have a friend in town hall, especially if that friend is Mayor Albio Sires, who is also the speaker of the New Jersey General Assembly. In West New York, Sires is the king of pay-to-play, the practice of rewarding major campaign contributors with no-bid contracts, a Gannett New Jersey newspapers' investigation shows. Sires, in his role as the Democratic leader of the state's lower house, has personally blocked comprehensive pay-to-play reform from passing the Assembly for more than a year. . . . For the complete piece, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3074 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 12, 2004 at 07:01:12 Subject: Asbury Park Press: 'Trustworthy' friends appointed, Sires says 'Trustworthy' friends appointed, Sires says Published 4/11/04 in the Asbury Park Press By TOM TRONCONE STAFF WRITER West New York is a town whose recent past is steeped in scandal and corruption. It is a town that has been under federal investigation for the past decade. Located across the Hudson River from New York, the town has been a hotbed of illegal gambling controlled by reputed Cuban organized crime figures. Since 1998, a police chief and more than a dozen officers have been convicted or pleaded guilty to running the town as if it were their own criminal enterprise. Cops were charged with stealing, shaking people down or taking kickbacks. . . . For the complete piece, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3075 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 12, 2004 at 07:03:00 Subject: Asbury Park Press: Small storefront stands tall in fund raising Small storefront stands tall in fund raising Published 4/11/04 in the Asbury Park Press By TOM TRONCONE STAFF WRITER It's a small nondescript storefront on what could be any corner in West New York. Months-old campaign signs in English and Spanish still dominate its facade, and tightly closed vertical blinds permit only small glimpses of what's behind its locked doors. It's the brick and mortar home of the West New York Municipal Democratic Committee, the chief fund-raising arm of Assembly Speaker and West New York Mayor Albio Sires. It is the organization that has helped make Sires a major player in state politics. . . . For the complete piece, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3076 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 12, 2004 at 07:04:59 Subject: Asbury Park Press: Assembly Speaker Albio Sires, at a glance Assembly Speaker Albio Sires, at a glance Published in the Asbury Park Press Occupation: Owner, A.M. Title Agency Inc., Union. Mayor, West New York, $15,000-a-year salary, plus health benefits. Speaker, New Jersey General Assembly, $65,333-a-year salary. He is the first Hispanic to hold the top post. . . . For the complete piece, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3077 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 12, 2004 at 07:05:16 Subject: Asbury Park Press: Assembly Speaker Albio Sires, at a glance Assembly Speaker Albio Sires, at a glance Published in the Asbury Park Press Occupation: Owner, A.M. Title Agency Inc., Union. Mayor, West New York, $15,000-a-year salary, plus health benefits. Speaker, New Jersey General Assembly, $65,333-a-year salary. He is the first Hispanic to hold the top post. . . . For the complete piece, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3078 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 12, 2004 at 07:08:09 Subject: Asbury Park Press: Let towns take care of their own, mayor-lawmaker says Let towns take care of their own, mayor-lawmaker says Published 4/11/04 in the Asbury Park Press By LILO H. STAINTON GANNETT STATE BUREAU TRENTON -- West New York Mayor Albio Sires beams when talk turns to his hometown. The town's leader for nine years, Sires describes how charity groups hand out free winter coats to scores of poor children, many of them immigrants. . . . For the complete piece, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3079 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 12, 2004 at 07:10:20 Subject: Star Ledger: In game of 'pay-to-play,' Sires a winner, data show In game of 'pay-to-play,' Sires a winner, data show Firms with municipal contracts fattened his local political coffers Saturday, April 10, 2004 BY JEFF WHELAN AND JOE DONOHUE Star-Ledger Staff Last month, Assembly Speaker Albio Sires unveiled a sweeping ethics package he said would make New Jersey a national leader in cleaning up government. But nowhere in the 25-point plan did Sires propose new campaign finance restrictions at the local level, leaving untouched the long-standing practice called "pay- to-play" in which companies are rewarded with government contracts after making political contributions. . . . For the complete piece, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** L.T. posted Message 3080 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 12, 2004 at 11:03:48 Subject: Re: Mayor Turner It It is easy to point out someones mistakes, but how about you look at how the mayor has helped and saved weehaken for years. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DUMP MENENDEZ XANADU posted Message 3081 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 12, 2004 at 19:04:56 Subject: Menendez Primary Opponent Jersey City Democrat Steven Fulop. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frank Hague's Ghost posted Message 3082 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 12, 2004 at 22:04:05 Subject: Steve who ????? He's got as much of a chance as does the Republican candidate. In other words .. zip,zero,zilch. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ask Joe Barry posted Message 3083 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 12, 2004 at 23:49:27 Subject: Want To Bet ? ? Don't be so sure. Your Great Leader must answer to a Higher Authority. : He's got as much of a chance as does the Republican candidate. In other words .. zip,zero,zilch. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3084 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 13, 2004 at 06:44:26 Subject: Jersey Journal: Paulus Hook prez to run for Congress against Menendez Tuesday, April 13, 2004 By Jason Fink U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, will face a challenge in the June Democratic primary from a 27-year-old Goldman Sachs employee who joined the Marine Reserves after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and served in Kuwait last year. The challenger, Steven Fulop, a Jersey City resident who is now president of the Historic Paulus Hook Association, will seek the nomination with the backing of Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, said several people familiar with the campaign. . . . For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3085 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 13, 2004 at 13:59:07 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show: April 12, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3086 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 13:08:02 Subject: Reform Democrats' Ticket Steven Fulop - House of Representatives, 13th Congressional District Rev. Edward Allen - House of Representatives, 10th Congressional District Sean Connors - House of Representatives, 9th Congressional District Richard Rivera - Hudson County Sheriff John Caulfield - Hudson County Surrogate ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3087 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 14:53:19 Subject: Star-Ledger: Sires to talk with prosecutors in corruption probe Sires to talk with prosecutors in corruption probe West New York official: Meeting flap a 'misunderstanding' Wednesday, April 14, 2004 BY JOHN P. MARTIN AND JEFF WHELAN Star-Ledger Staff Assembly Speaker Albio Sires has agreed to be interviewed by federal prosecutors who are overseeing a long-running investigation into public corruption in West New York, where Sires is mayor. Sires, the third-highest-ranking Democrat in state government, was unavailable for comment yesterday, but an aide confirmed that he has consented to a meeting. . . . Click on the Link for the complete article. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3088 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 15:44:37 Subject: Truth in advertising? Looking at the the Hudson County Democratic Organization's Web Site, it seems that Jose Arango has hit the nail on the head about the HCDO: "... they have no issues of their own." Here, at the current time anyhow, issues-shmissues, they've got nothing to say about anything at all! Meybe this is a clever ploy to steer clear of taking a stand and that way keep everybody happy? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chappie posted Message 3089 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 17:02:31 Subject: Re: You Know You'e Hit Rock Bottom : Looking at the the Hudson County Democratic Organization's Web Site, it seems that Jose Arango has hit the nail on the head about the HCDO: "... they have no issues of their own." Here (at the current time anyhow), issues-shmissues, they've got nothing to say about anything at all! :What's the story? Whatever happened to all that acquired wisdom from the generations of being the Rolling Stones of politics? : Meybe this is a clever ploy to steer clear of taking a stand and that way keep everybody happy? When you start seeing the wisdom in anything Jose Arango says.If the HCDO is the Rolling Stones of politics then the Hudson GOP is Menudo. I saw Bush on TV last night and he had LOSER written all over his mug. Uber this weirdo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3090 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 17:26:16 Subject: Jealousy will get you nowhere! : : Looking at the the Hudson County Democratic Organization's Web Site, it seems that Jose Arango has hit the nail on the head about the HCDO: "... they have no issues of their own." Here (at the current time anyhow), issues-shmissues, they've got nothing to say about anything at all! : :What's the story? Whatever happened to all that acquired wisdom from the generations of being the Rolling Stones of politics? : : Meybe this is a clever ploy to steer clear of taking a stand and that way keep everybody happy? : When you start seeing the wisdom in anything Jose Arango says.If the HCDO is the Rolling Stones of politics then the Hudson GOP is Menudo. I saw Bush on TV last night and he had LOSER written all over his mug. Uber this weirdo. You're just jealous! I was able to go to the Hudson GOP Web Site (Link provided below) and pull a quote from OUR Chairman. All you've got at the HCDO Site for YOUR Chairman's messaage is a lotta WHITE SPACE! You know, I just figgered it out. Yer workin' on the WHATEVER YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE HELD AGAINST YOU and clammin' up to play it safe! How much lower will you have to go before ya' pull Bobby J outta mothballs? He got ya' brownine points by runnin' Cliton's campaign in NJ. Maybe Janiszewski can do the GOTV one more time for Kerry. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ya' think posted Message 3091 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 19:11:06 Subject: Re: Jealousy will get you nowhere! Anthony, aka Uberhippy...you fail to mention that you did the web site for the GOP...your opinion has a tat of" Conflict of interest" ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3092 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 19:32:49 Subject: Star Ledger: Menendez, Rothman, Payne up for re-election Incumbents face Jersey City challenges Menendez, Rothman, Payne up for re-election Tuesday, April 13, 2004 BY DAVID KINNEY Star-Ledger Staff With feuding continuing among Democrats in Hudson County, three Jersey City Democrats filed yesterday to run against incumbent U.S. Reps. Robert Menendez, Steve Rothman and Donald Payne in the June 8 primary. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3093 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 19:48:08 Subject: El Prensa Article on Byrne and Barry Poderosos funcionarios acusados de corrupción CRISTINA LOBOGUERRERO Dos de los hombres más poderosos del condado Hudson, uno en el campo de desarrollo urbano y el otro a nivel político, fueron ayer acusados formalmente en un tribunal federal de la ciudad de Newark por cargos de corrupción. La acusación con un total de 16 cargos involucra concretamente a Joseph Barry, presidente de la compañía de Desarrollo Aplicado de Hoboken y Paul J. Byrne, mano derecha del ex- ejecutivo del condado Hudson Robert Janiszewski, quien el año pasado se declaró culpable de recibir sobornos por más de cien mil dólares. . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3094 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 20:23:10 Subject: Holahoy: Corrupción acecha al condado de Hudson Política/Nueva Jersey Corrupción acecha al condado de Hudson Nestor Cristancho Es un secreto a voces: en términos políticos Hudson es el condado más corrupto de Nueva Jersey. Por eso, para muchos no es de extrañar que la hispana Nidia Dávila-Colón haya sido condenada por corrupción en su cargo de legisladora (freeholder) de ese condado. "Es la punta de un iceberg", afirmó el candidato a la asamblea José Carlos Muñoz. Y el resto del iceberg parece haber crecido desde hace 50 años, cuando se estableció una hegemonía política en ese condado. Es lo que en inglés se conoce como 'bossismo' que se podría traducir como 'caciquismo político'. Un 'cacique' o jefe político impone las reglas. ¿Qué se debe hacer?. ¿Quién lo debe hacer.? ¿Cómo se debe votar y por quién?. Aquellos que no acepten las reglas son expulsados de la vida política y de cualquier aspiración al poder. "Es una pena. Por años se ha hablado de la corrupción política de Hudson. Pero nadie parece encontrar una solución", dijo el director de la organización PACO, Eliu Rivera. El caso de Hudson tiene su historia. Desde 1949 se estableció el imperio de los Kenny, con la elección del alcalde de Jersey City John V. Kenney. En la información sobre la administración de Kenny aparecen artículos de prensa como uno en Internet del sitio Getnj.com que sostienen que su administración "...era una alianza entre el crimen organizado y el poder gobernante". Hoy, más de 60 años después, el jefe del partido demócrata en Hudson y senador de Nueva Jersey por esa zona es Bernard Kenny, nieto de John Kenny. Sobre esta historia y las acusaciones de que guía una poderosa maquinaria política en Hudson, intentamos entrevistar por teléfono al senador Kenny. Su asistente Sussan, dijo que estaba en una reunión y devolvería la llamada. Seguimos esperando. Otro personaje político de Hudson es el congresista Robert Menéndez, el único congresista hispano por el estado y sobre quien se tejen esperanzas de que haga algo contra la corrupción de Hudson. Este diario lo buscó durante dos días. Y después de evasivas de sus asesores, una de ellas, Desiré Ramos, usó una teoría matemática para explicar por qué el congresista no tenía por qué vinculársele al tema. Hasta habló de fórmulas. (¿?) Las jugadas políticas Los hispanos se han convertido en una población de poder político en Hudson. En ciudades como North Bergen, Jersey City y West New York son mayoría. De su voto, Rafael Fraguela se convirtió en asambleísta estatal por el partido Demócrata. Pero la maquinaria política lo desplazó. "Mi partido me hizo a un lado porque uno de estos dictadores decidió tomar el poder. Así que me quitaron el respaldo. Yo no podía volver a aspirar a la Asamblea por los demócratas. El Partido Republicano me aceptó y ahora me voy a enfrentar al senado contra el señor Kenny", así explicó Fraguela a este diario las jugadas políticas de las que dijo ser víctima. El "dictador" al que el se refiere es otro aliado de Kenny, el alcalde de Union, Brian Stack, quien decidió lanzarse a la Asamblea a cambio de Fraguela. Sus razones, que Fraguela no había cumplido con su trabajo en la legislatura estatal. "Eso no es cierto. Son públicas las actividades de los asambleístas. Cualquiera puede ver que promoví 64 proyectos de los cuales 16 son leyes del estado. Conseguí 10 millones de dólares para Union, además de otros fondos para otras ciudades. El que se me haya retirado no es más que una arbitrariedad", dijo Fraguela. Hispanos en medio de la corrupción La mayoría de políticos hispanos se refieren con cautela al caso de Nidia Dávila-colón. Esa legisladora fue condenada por entregar sobornos de hasta 10.000 dólares al entonces diputado del condado de Union Robert Janiszewski para que éste apoyara la adjudicación de contratos públicos a favor de su novio, el siquiatra Oscar Sandoval. Dávila-Colón admitió que llevaba sobres a Janiszewski de parte de Sandoval, pero que no sabía qué contenían. El jurado no le creyó, los testigos la acusaron, los propios involucrados grabaron conversaciones para comprometerla en el caso, y ahora espera una condena de prisión. Los diarios del área de Hudson han pedido la renuncia inmediata de Dávila-Colón en desagravio a su comunidad. "Es una lástima que la señora Dávila se haya visto envuelta en un caso como este. Ella fue la primera hispana en ser legisladora (freeholder). Pero debe pagar por lo que hizo. La corrupción en Hudson debe terminarse", dijo la ex candidata a la alcaldía de North Bergen, Marisa Suárez, quien también dice haber sido víctima de la política clientelista que gobierna al condado de Hudson. "Yo tuve que enfrentarme al poder de Nicholas Sacco. Quien lleva 18 años en la alcaldía de North Bergen y ejerce todo tipo de presiones para que sus propios funcionarios voten por él. Hay profesores que pueden asegurar que los han amenazado con despedirlos si no votan por él", dijo Suárez. El asambleísta Fraguela, al ser preguntado por el caso de Dávila-Colón, dijo "no me gusta criticar. Pero es que nadie está por encima de la ley". El aspirante a la asamblea José Carlos Muñoz fue más duro: "Dávila-Colón es un ejemplo más de cómo funciona el sistema en Hudson. Ella dice ser una víctima. Pero la victima aquí es el pueblo. Eso de que no sabía que llevaba un montón de dinero en unos sobres...", dijo. Ese es el panorama de Hudson. Un condado de Nueva Jersey rodeado de puertos y zonas industriales con problemas políticos que han obligado al FBI a designar una investigadora particular a fin de combatir la corrupción. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Adios Albio posted Message 3095 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 21:42:40 Subject: Good Bye Mr.Speaker Talk on the Street Two Weeks ago was that Albio was told to come in and surrender. Around the same time Albio checked into a local hospital with "chest pains". It's only a matter of time now. Read the complete link and pay attention to the quotes used in the article. : Sires to talk with prosecutors in corruption probe : West New York official: Meeting flap a 'misunderstanding' : Wednesday, April 14, 2004 : BY JOHN P. MARTIN AND JEFF WHELAN : Star-Ledger Staff : Assembly Speaker Albio Sires has agreed to be interviewed by federal prosecutors who are overseeing a long-running investigation into public corruption in West New York, where Sires is mayor. : Sires, the third-highest-ranking Democrat in state government, was unavailable for comment yesterday, but an aide confirmed that he has consented to a meeting. : . . . : Click on the Link for the complete article. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jose Jimenez posted Message 3096 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 22:33:24 Subject: Down with bilingual websites !!!! And bilingual education as well !!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3097 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 22:37:31 Subject: LMAO !!! Good one Chappie !!! The wisdom of Jose Arango. You gotta love it. But you gotta give Jose credit. He's got more on the ball than our nitwit President Bush. Last nites performance was unbelievably pathetic. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Friar Tuck posted Message 3098 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 14, 2004 at 22:43:22 Subject: Re: Shoot Me..... : : : Looking at the the Hudson County Democratic Organization's Web Site, it seems that Jose Arango has hit the nail on the head about the HCDO: "... they have no issues of their own." Here (at the current time anyhow), issues-shmissues, they've got nothing to say about anything at all! : : :What's the story? Whatever happened to all that acquired wisdom from the generations of being the Rolling Stones of politics? : : : Meybe this is a clever ploy to steer clear of taking a stand and that way keep everybody happy? : : When you start seeing the wisdom in anything Jose Arango says.If the HCDO is the Rolling Stones of politics then the Hudson GOP is Menudo. I saw Bush on TV last night and he had LOSER written all over his mug. Uber this weirdo. : You're just jealous! I was able to go to the Hudson GOP Web Site (Link provided below) and pull a quote from OUR Chairman. All you've got at the HCDO Site for YOUR Chairman's messaage is a lotta WHITE SPACE! : You know, I just figgered it out. Yer workin' on the WHATEVER YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE HELD AGAINST YOU and clammin' up to play it safe! : How much lower will you have to go before ya' pull Bobby J outta mothballs? He got ya' brownine points by runnin' Cliton's campaign in NJ. Maybe Janiszewski can do the GOTV one more time for Kerry. If I'm ever jealous of a numb nuts like you. and that's quite a cast of characters the GOP has lined up. How many actually live in Hudson County this time? And how many fraudulent signatures were used to get them on the ballot? And Anthony, don't go breaking your arm patting yourself on the back about the website you created for "Smiley" Arango. Said it before will say it again , you were a loser in the 4th grade and you're a loser now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3099 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 04:09:23 Subject: Re: Shoot Me..... : : : : Looking at the the Hudson County Democratic Organization's Web Site, it seems that Jose Arango has hit the nail on the head about the HCDO: "... they have no issues of their own." Here (at the current time anyhow), issues-shmissues, they've got nothing to say about anything at all! : : : :What's the story? Whatever happened to all that acquired wisdom from the generations of being the Rolling Stones of politics? : : : : Meybe this is a clever ploy to steer clear of taking a stand and that way keep everybody happy? : : : When you start seeing the wisdom in anything Jose Arango says.If the HCDO is the Rolling Stones of politics then the Hudson GOP is Menudo. I saw Bush on TV last night and he had LOSER written all over his mug. Uber this weirdo. : : You're just jealous! I was able to go to the Hudson GOP Web Site (Link provided below) and pull a quote from OUR Chairman. All you've got at the HCDO Site for YOUR Chairman's messaage is a lotta WHITE SPACE! : : You know, I just figgered it out. Yer workin' on the WHATEVER YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE HELD AGAINST YOU and clammin' up to play it safe! : : How much lower will you have to go before ya' pull Bobby J outta mothballs? He got ya' brownine points by runnin' Cliton's campaign in NJ. Maybe Janiszewski can do the GOTV one more time for Kerry. : If I'm ever jealous of a numb nuts like you. and that's quite a cast of characters the GOP has lined up. How many actually live in Hudson County this time? And how many fraudulent signatures were used to get them on the ballot? And Anthony, don't go breaking your arm patting yourself on the back about the website you created for "Smiley" Arango. Said it before will say it again , you were a loser in the 4th grade and you're a loser now. Of course, you're gonna say it again. . . NOBODY EXPECTS THAT Ya' GONNA BE ABLE TO THINK OF ANYTHING NEW! And let us in on the little secret -- did'ja come up with that all by ya' lonesome? Or is that from the same people who brought us SAVE THE LOWES (sic)? Keep it up the good work guys. The rate your going, like real soon Jose Arango is going to be picking out the colors for paint and carpet at North Bergen City Hall. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3100 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 04:10:30 Subject: Re: Down with bilingual websites !!!! : And bilingual education as well !!!!! I wonder what Brian Stack has to say about this? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stack is hates being a WASP posted Message 3101 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 06:22:33 Subject: Who the hell cares : I wonder what Brian Stack has to say about this? ::Who cares what Stack has to say? Remember, his wonderful "bi-lingual" wife was boffin' someone else's husband. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3102 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 06:34:51 Subject: The Thoughts of Chairman Kenny? Back in the late 60s / early 70s some wisenheimer came out with a book -- THE COMPILED WISDOM OF SPIRO AGNEW -- with all the pages blank. Lookin' at the HCDO message with the big blank space under the title CHAIR'S MESSAGE, I couldn't help but think of the Agnew tome. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3103 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 06:39:30 Subject: The Thoughts of Chairman Kenny? Back in the late 60s / early 70s some wisenheimer came out with a book -- THE COMPILED WISDOM OF SPIRO AGNEW -- with all the pages blank. Lookin' at the HCDO Web Site with the big blank space starin' back at ya' under the title CHAIR'S MESSAGE, I couldn't help but think of the Agnew tome. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3104 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 06:42:59 Subject: You learn something new everyday! : : I wonder what Brian Stack has to say about this? : ::Who cares what Stack has to say? Remember, his wonderful "bi-lingual" wife was boffin' someone else's husband. Jeepers! Here I am a card-carrying member of Mensa and for all these years I thought that the word "bilingual" meant something else! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3105 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 08:48:02 Subject: Tom Gaynor for Mayor-2005 After careful consideration i have decided that Tom Gaynor would be the best choice to be Mayor of Jersey City.I think that he can stand up to the Conman and his gang, better then anyone else.Jedsey, hope you will help him save our once great City.Jersey City corruption free in 2005. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3106 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 08:48:09 Subject: Tom Gaynor for Mayor-2005 After careful consideration i have decided that Tom Gaynor would be the best choice to be Mayor of Jersey City.I think that he can stand up to the Conman and his gang, better then anyone else.Jedsey, hope you will help him save our once great City.Jersey City corruption free in 2005. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pro-zac posted Message 3107 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 09:10:21 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor for Mayor-2005 There is one thing that the HCDO, GETNJ. and MAYOR MAN have in comman.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they all think GAYNOR IS NUTS! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Baumgarten posted Message 3108 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 10:01:38 Subject: Re: GTNJ=Urban Timez Newz : : : I wonder what Brian Stack has to say about this? : : ::Who cares what Stack has to say? Remember, his wonderful "bi-lingual" wife was boffin' someone else's husband. : Jeepers! Here I am a card-carrying member of Mensa and for all these years I thought that the word "bilingual" meant something else! This web site has gotten to the bathroom wall status the UTN enjoys. Personal lives and family are fair gameand any rumor, no matter how scurilous, will be dutifully posted by the lowlife geek who runs it. Who you boffing Anthony? Ever boff anybody?Over the age of 12? Rot in hell weirdo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** There Ought To Be A Law posted Message 3109 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 11:46:33 Subject: Tom Gaynor Posts From State Computer : After careful consideration i have decided that Tom Gaynor would be the best choice to be Mayor of Jersey City.I think that he can stand up to the Conman and his gang, better then anyone else.Jedsey, hope you will help him save our once great City.Jersey City corruption free in 2005. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3110 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 11:59:29 Subject: Please. . . : There is one thing that the HCDO, GETNJ. and MAYOR MAN have in comman.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they all think GAYNOR IS NUTS! Please, it's very cruel to call someone crazy. I prefer the term "reality-challenged." Seriously, now that there doesn't seem to be any agreement on a challenger to Glenn, figger on just about everybody jumping into the pool! ***************** End Of Article ****************** In Avon By The Sea posted Message 3111 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 12:18:08 Subject: Trouble is Gaynor Gets His Feet Wet Perhaps Gaynor should run for Mayor of Avon. : : There is one thing that the HCDO, GETNJ. and MAYOR MAN have in comman.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they all think GAYNOR IS NUTS! : Please, it's very cruel to call someone crazy. I prefer the term "reality-challenged." : Seriously, now that there doesn't seem to be any agreement on a challenger to Glenn, figger on just about everybody jumping into the pool! ***************** End Of Article ****************** His Mind Destroyed By Booze posted Message 3112 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 14:32:20 Subject: Brain Dead Chairman Kenny : Back in the late 60s / early 70s some wisenheimer came out with a book -- THE COMPILED WISDOM OF SPIRO AGNEW -- with all the pages blank. : Lookin' at the HCDO Web Site with the big blank space starin' back at ya' under the title CHAIR'S MESSAGE, I couldn't help but think of the Agnew tome. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Friar Tuck posted Message 3113 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 16:59:18 Subject: Uber Can Dish It Out But can't take it. Allows all kinds of garbage said about others but deletes anything about himself.Hypocrite loser. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3114 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 17:11:27 Subject: Re: Uber Can Dish It Out : But can't take it. Allows all kinds of garbage said about others but deletes anything about himself.Hypocrite loser. If the the thought of post under a recognizable name makes yer head spin, that's OK. But, don't post using the name of the mother of some guy at 280 Grove. Why'd you wanna pull a stunt like that, anyhow? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Friar Tuck posted Message 3115 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 17:22:21 Subject: Re: Uber Can Dish It Out : : But can't take it. Allows all kinds of garbage said about others but deletes anything about himself.Hypocrite loser. : If the the thought of post under a recognizable name makes yer head spin, that's OK. But, don't post using the name of the mother of some guy at 280 Grove. Why'd you wanna pull a stunt like that, anyhow? Have no idea what you are talking about. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3116 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 17:41:56 Subject: Re: Uber Can Dish It Out : : : But can't take it. Allows all kinds of garbage said about others but deletes anything about himself.Hypocrite loser. : : If the the thought of post under a recognizable name makes yer head spin, that's OK. But, don't post using the name of the mother of some guy at 280 Grove. Why'd you wanna pull a stunt like that, anyhow? : Have no idea what you are talking about. The deleted message was posted using the maiden name of the mother of a COJC employee -- something that has happened a number of times in the past. As can be imagined, he finds this very disturbing. And since it's not like the guy's in the eye of the hurricane, so I can't figger the point. Plus, I remove ANY and EVERY message that goes up fraudulently using a real person's name -- no matter what's written. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Friar Tuck posted Message 3117 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 17:54:41 Subject: Re: Uber Can Dish It Out : : : : But can't take it. Allows all kinds of garbage said about others but deletes anything about himself.Hypocrite loser. : : : If the the thought of post under a recognizable name makes yer head spin, that's OK. But, don't post using the name of the mother of some guy at 280 Grove. Why'd you wanna pull a stunt like that, anyhow? : : Have no idea what you are talking about. : The deleted message was posted using the maiden name of the mother of a COJC employee -- something that has happened a number of times in the past. As can be imagined, he finds this very disturbing. And since it's not like the guy's in the eye of the hurricane, so I can't figger the point. : Plus, I remove ANY and EVERY message that goes up fraudulently using a real person's name -- no matter what's written. I don't work for the City, never have. I know a few people that do but can honestly say I don't know any of their mother's maiden names. Have to think hard to remember my own mother's. So I don't buy it. But hey its your urinal in here, you make the rules, just can't take it can you? ***************** End Of Article ****************** This is hilarious! posted Message 3118 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 18:58:23 Subject: I don't believe it! : After careful consideration i have decided that Tom Gaynor would be the best choice to post to himself that he should be the Mayor of Jersey City.I think that he can stand up to any man or woman, better then anyone else.Jedsey, hope you will help him save our once great City.Jersey City corruption free (and Tom panty hose free) in 2005. This is sadder then originaly thought. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County GOP posted Message 3119 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 15, 2004 at 18:58:39 Subject: Alexander Garcia, Hudson GOP Sheriff Candidated Candidate for Sheriff, Alexander Garcia (right), meets with local business leaders ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3120 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 16, 2004 at 10:43:18 Subject: If not Tom Gaynor-Then Jedset DiMatteo If Tom Gaynor lives in Avon By The sea. then vote for Jedsey Fo mayor in 2005 in order to make Jersey city Corruption free. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Special Ed posted Message 3121 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 16, 2004 at 13:45:45 Subject: Let's All Go To the Movies KILL BILL! BRING AYALA ALONG ***************** End Of Article ****************** 318 Sylvania Avenue posted Message 3122 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 16, 2004 at 14:05:06 Subject: Gaynor Campaign Headquarters Tom Gaynor For Mayor Daily News Updates ! Starts Monday ! Get Involved ! Bring Your Sun Screen ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ugh posted Message 3123 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 16, 2004 at 17:38:53 Subject: Anybody but Cunningham - - except Gaynor Cunningham is such a total failure. And the people around him.... well their greed, ignorance, and lackluster performance speaks for itself. But can't we do any better than Gaynor? What an idiot!!! If this is the best we can do, what a sad state of affairs we have fallen into. I never did vote for Schundler, but I would in a heartbeat if he were to run for Mayor again next year. : Tom Gaynor For Mayor Daily News Updates ! : Starts Monday ! : Get Involved ! : Bring Your Sun Screen ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fulop For Congress posted Message 3124 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 16, 2004 at 18:50:26 Subject: Fulop For Congress In Iraq Steven served in Iraq with the Marine Corps as part of the 6th Engineer Support Battalion focused on engineering, logistics, water purification, and fuel farms. He is the recipient of numerous awards and recognition for his service including the following: Overseas Deployment Ribbon, Meritorious Masts and the Presidential Unit Citation. His unit was an important part of the support and infrastructure that allowed the swift movement through Iraq. Steven arrived in Iraq in early February and was one of the first units to arrive in Baghdad. His unit was written about in numerous periodicals during the war highlighting the company's movements, contributions, and ambushes that they encountered. The New Jersey Star Ledger highlighted Steven Fulop on several occasions as a result of his choice to leave the comforts of Wall Street to serve his country. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3125 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 17, 2004 at 08:52:22 Subject: NJN Video: HCDO Faces Primary Challenge Michael Aron also covers this topic on Reporters Roundtable, NJN channel 50 Sunday, April 18 at 10:00 a.m. To access the Online video, please click on the Link ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3126 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 17, 2004 at 09:41:08 Subject: Tom gaynor Or Jedsey DiMatteo Jersey City needs one of these two herosin order to end corruption in Jersey City.You know it we all know it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3127 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 17, 2004 at 10:03:09 Subject: Re: Tom gaynor Or Jedsey DiMatteo Tom needs to see his Nurse. He is wa-a-a-a-ay-y-y-y-y passed the time he was supposed to take his medication. Nice home down the shore, nice sized nest egg, nice state job, lady for a wife and this is all he can do with his time. What an embarrassment. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3128 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 17, 2004 at 10:09:38 Subject: The Lord of the Rings -- Hudson County Style The Lord of the Rings -- Hudson County Style Thanks to some really great movies, now everybody is familiar with Tolkien's Trilogy, the Lord of the Rings. Over the next two years, Hudson County is going to be the setting for a political Trilogy. With the primary and the November general election, we'll see the first two installments . The conclusion, the Return of the King (by whatever definition you prefer) will be next year's Jersey City mayoral race. With the primary, the Cunningham camp needs to clearly define their expectations and goals to the media, Jersey City voters -- and to Congressman Payne and Congressman Rothman. Seemingly from Congressman Rothman's comments on NJN, he's been told that the primary challenge is strictly a Hudson County matter. (From the manifold pained expressions on his face, Rothman still didn't seem very happy about the situation.) If the goals are communicated to (and through) the media, and the battle as it's fought is won, the headlines on the day after the primary will be JERSEY CITY GIVES MENENDEZ THUMBS DOWN instead of HCDO WINS BY 75%. If Jersey City voters are convinced that going to the polls and voting with Glenn will tell the world that Jersey City doesn't like people from North Hudson trying to push them around, crowds'll fill the polls on election day. If Jersey City residents perceive the race as a Children's Crusade, they'll stay home and take a nap. Clearly (except by Divine intervention -- or that of Chris Christie), none of Cunningham's candidates have any chance of beating the HCDO crowd in the vote count. What Glenn can hope for is to get a large turnout in his favor in Jersey City. Another display of strength in Jersey City will futher discourage any serious challengers in the '05 Jersey City election. And, perhaps even more importantly, Glenn's achieving a strong win in Jersey City this time around will serve to dissuade significant investment -- political or financial -- in local opposition. A good show of support in Bayonne and Union City would be the icing on the cake. If Glenn gets some numbers south and north, he'll have extended his influence in Bayonne and achieved a beach head in Union City. Of course, the HCDO must define the election as showing Glenn as the Hudson County version of Saruman, a false prophet doomed to failure and destruction. The HCDO will have to convice the media and the state and national Party leaders that a good showing in Jersey City only proves that Jersey City's political isolation is Glenn's fault. And to enlist outside support in containing Glenn, the HCDO must prove that by attacking Payne and Rothman, Glenn is on the road to turning Hudson County into a pariah statewide. What the HCDO wants is to have Congressman Payne and Congressman Rothman ending every speech with GLENN MUST BE DESTROYED. In the NJN video, Congressman Menendez goes as far as to claim that Glenn Cunningham is impeding the effort to promote Kerry for President. Could this whole hubbub be a show of arms to convince the Democratic Party at the state and national levels of the need to provide financing for a GOTV effort in Hudson County during November's presidential election? The road goes ever on and on! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3129 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 17, 2004 at 16:56:25 Subject: Gaynor sells house down Shore-Will Run for Mayor Corruption Free in 2005 WEEEE ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3130 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 18, 2004 at 09:48:03 Subject: Jedsey DiMatteo is the clear choice for Mayor of JC Brains and honesty make him the clear Choice to lead us out of this Corruption of Mud we are stuck in.Land Scams, Ticket Scams,JCHA, JCIA, MUA ,Parking Authority. How much more can Taxpayers Take. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Fulop For Congress posted Message 3131 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 18, 2004 at 17:00:28 Subject: Menendez Tries to Push Marine off Ballot For Immediate Release Apri1 18,2004 Contact: Steve R. Newmark (917) 226-7130 Menendez Tries to Push Marine off Ballot Scare Tactics Used On Challenger's Supporters JERSEY CITY * U.S. Marine Steve Fulop, candidate for Congress in the 13th District, will condemn the intimidation tactics targeted at his supporters during an 11 a.m. news conference Monday, April 19, 2004, at 911Bergen Avenue. Fulop, challenger to incumbent Robert Menendez, will hold the news conference outside Menendez's office and demand he and his supporters play by the rules of law and conduct his campaign under lawful parameters. Police reports show Menendez supporters dressed as law enforcement personnel attempting to scare off and intimidate Fulop supporters who signed his petition to run for Congress and challenge the incumbent. Steven Fulop took a leave of absence from his job at Goldman Sachs to join the U.S. Marine Corps reserves following the September 11 (2001) attacks on America. Fulop and his supporters who are the victims of Menendez's scare tactics will be on hand for comment. Copies of police reports filed will also be available for release./// ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3132 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 18, 2004 at 17:43:06 Subject: This is like right outta the Valachi Papers! I'm thinking of the Capo di tutti Capi who got knocked off by the phony cops. Where's Glazer?!? He'd be splashin' BOSS MENENDEZ in ink all over the place! : For Immediate Release : Apri1 18,2004 : : Contact: Steve R. Newmark : (917) 226-7130 : Menendez Tries to Push Marine off Ballot : Scare Tactics Used On Challenger's Supporters : JERSEY CITY * U.S. Marine Steve Fulop, candidate for Congress in the 13th District, will condemn the intimidation tactics targeted at his supporters during an 11 a.m. news conference Monday, April 19, 2004, at 911Bergen Avenue. : Fulop, challenger to incumbent Robert Menendez, will hold the news conference outside Menendez's office and demand he and his supporters play by the rules of law and conduct his campaign under lawful parameters. : Police reports show Menendez supporters dressed as law enforcement personnel attempting to scare off and intimidate Fulop supporters who signed his petition to run for Congress and challenge the incumbent. : Steven Fulop took a leave of absence from his job at Goldman Sachs to join the U.S. Marine Corps reserves following the September 11 (2001) attacks on America. : Fulop and his supporters who are the victims of Menendez's scare tactics will be on hand for comment. Copies of police reports filed will also be available for release./// ***************** End Of Article ****************** Call The US ATTORNEY posted Message 3133 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 18, 2004 at 18:41:50 Subject: Typical Boss Menendez Boss Menendez's typical harassment tatics....... Menendez always eliminates primary opposition because Menendez KNOWS the Voters Hate him. Offense is his only Defense. : I'm thinking of the Capo di tutti Capi who got knocked off by the phony cops. : Where's Glazer?!? He'd be splashin' BOSS MENENDEZ in ink all over the place! : : For Immediate Release : : Apri1 18,2004 : : : : Contact: Steve R. Newmark : : (917) 226-7130 : : Menendez Tries to Push Marine off Ballot : : Scare Tactics Used On Challenger's Supporters : : JERSEY CITY * U.S. Marine Steve Fulop, candidate for Congress in the 13th District, will condemn the intimidation tactics targeted at his supporters during an 11 a.m. news conference Monday, April 19, 2004, at 911Bergen Avenue. : : Fulop, challenger to incumbent Robert Menendez, will hold the news conference outside Menendez's office and demand he and his supporters play by the rules of law and conduct his campaign under lawful parameters. : : Police reports show Menendez supporters dressed as law enforcement personnel attempting to scare off and intimidate Fulop supporters who signed his petition to run for Congress and challenge the incumbent. : : Steven Fulop took a leave of absence from his job at Goldman Sachs to join the U.S. Marine Corps reserves following the September 11 (2001) attacks on America. : : Fulop and his supporters who are the victims of Menendez's scare tactics will be on hand for comment. Copies of police reports filed will also be available for release./// ***************** End Of Article ****************** To National Press posted Message 3134 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 18, 2004 at 19:23:20 Subject: Report Menendez Scare Tactics Congressman Menendez is also Chairman of the Credientals Committee for the Democtrratic National Convention - His actions should be reported to the National Press. : For Immediate Release : Apri1 18,2004 : : Contact: Steve R. Newmark : (917) 226-7130 : Menendez Tries to Push Marine off Ballot : Scare Tactics Used On Challenger's Supporters : JERSEY CITY * U.S. Marine Steve Fulop, candidate for Congress in the 13th District, will condemn the intimidation tactics targeted at his supporters during an 11 a.m. news conference Monday, April 19, 2004, at 911Bergen Avenue. : Fulop, challenger to incumbent Robert Menendez, will hold the news conference outside Menendez's office and demand he and his supporters play by the rules of law and conduct his campaign under lawful parameters. : Police reports show Menendez supporters dressed as law enforcement personnel attempting to scare off and intimidate Fulop supporters who signed his petition to run for Congress and challenge the incumbent. : Steven Fulop took a leave of absence from his job at Goldman Sachs to join the U.S. Marine Corps reserves following the September 11 (2001) attacks on America. : Fulop and his supporters who are the victims of Menendez's scare tactics will be on hand for comment. Copies of police reports filed will also be available for release./// ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3135 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 18, 2004 at 19:51:02 Subject: Re: Gaynor sells house down Shore- We should all run.... For cover! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sal Vega posted Message 3136 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 05:38:13 Subject: Albio loves the cash in his pocket and pay 2 play I told Albio not to take any money from Abreu years ago. Now look whats happening. Seems he didn't listen. He should just have stuck to the Parking Authority skim. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3137 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 08:20:21 Subject: 911 Bergen Avenue is just south of Journal Square 911 Bergen Avenue is just south of Journal Square, in front of Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office. : For Immediate Release : Apri1 18,2004 : : Contact: Steve R. Newmark : (917) 226-7130 : Menendez Tries to Push Marine off Ballot : Scare Tactics Used On Challenger's Supporters : JERSEY CITY * U.S. Marine Steve Fulop, candidate for Congress in the 13th District, will condemn the intimidation tactics targeted at his supporters during an 11 a.m. news conference Monday, April 19, 2004, at 911Bergen Avenue. : Fulop, challenger to incumbent Robert Menendez, will hold the news conference outside Menendez's office and demand he and his supporters play by the rules of law and conduct his campaign under lawful parameters. : Police reports show Menendez supporters dressed as law enforcement personnel attempting to scare off and intimidate Fulop supporters who signed his petition to run for Congress and challenge the incumbent. : Steven Fulop took a leave of absence from his job at Goldman Sachs to join the U.S. Marine Corps reserves following the September 11 (2001) attacks on America. : Fulop and his supporters who are the victims of Menendez's scare tactics will be on hand for comment. Copies of police reports filed will also be available for release./// ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3138 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 09:14:02 Subject: Keeping a look out on Cunningham &Munley Who is keeping a lookout on the Land Scams By Cunningham & Munley while Tom Gaynor is still down thw Shore In Avon?I hope Jedsey is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3139 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 13:25:57 Subject: Video: Congressional Candidate Rev. Allen Speaks Out Against Political Harrasment To view the Online video, pease click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3140 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 13:30:41 Subject: Video: Congressional Candidate Fulop Says No More "Thuggish Tactics" To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3141 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 13:34:31 Subject: How much did Taxpayers lose because of the JCHA scam? Tell us Mayor/Sentor Cunningham.I Think Tom Gaynor is right about you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3142 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 14:00:53 Subject: Video: Congressional Candidate Fulop Refutes HCDO False Signature Charge To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3143 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 14:05:34 Subject: Jersey City Police Department Reports of Individuals Posing as Police to Intimidate Petition Signers On the above date, time and location, the u/s responded to a call of impersonation of police officers. Upon arrival, the u/s met with Mr. Gary Nye, the director of tenant landlord relations for Jersey City. Mr. Nye stated that he had received numerous complaints from tenants in the above named address, that stated at approximately 1930 on 4114104, three men, #1 Hispanic male named David, approximately 35 years old, #2 white male, 40years old, #3 black male, tall, with pock mark face, all wearing police gear, hats, jackets, t-shirts stating Hudson County Sheriff's Department, US Marshall's Office and Jersey City Police Department were attempting to interrogate and intimidate tenants on the 9th floor of 563 Montgomery Street, about signing a petition for Steven Pulop for Congress. The uls spoke to victim #1 Carmen Candelario at apartment #92-2, who confirmed that the three men described above intimidated and interrogated her about her name on a petition for Steven Pulop, she was afraid and called Gary Nye. The uls spoke to victim #2 Chestine Powell of apartment #93-2, who stated she heard someone screaming her full name in the hall of floor number nine, but she never spoke to or saw the actors because she was in a different apartment on floor nine at the time. The u/s then spoke to victim #3 Mary Clark of apartment #94-2, who stated that three men with the above description interrogated and intimidated her about signing the petition for Steven Pulop for Congress. All victims and complaints were advised. The undersigned notified the East Detective. - - - - - At 0040 hrs. the u/s attempted to contact ( Gary Nye ) phone number 201-547-5211 regarding this incident . The u/s left a message to Mr. Nye on his answering machine to contact this office to follow up on this investigation. At 0050 hrs. the u/s attempted to speak to victim ( Carmen Caldelario ) residing at 563 Montgomery St. Apt. # 92-2 , phone number 201-985-2410 with neg. results. At 0055 hrs. the u/s contacted victim ( Mary Clark ) residing at 563 Montgomery apt. # 94-2 , phone number 201-435-0982 regarding this incident. The u/s apologized for calling late and explained that it was necessary to start this investigation as soon as possible. Victim stated the three men described as 1 black male and two hispanic males who interrogated and intimidated were all wearing some kind of police logo . One male wore a J.C.P.D. baseball hat and another wore a U.S. MARSHALL JACKET with a insigna patch . Victim also stated that she was questioned about her signature and was asked numerous times if she signed the petition for Steven Pulop for Congress. The uls asked if these man ever idenified themselfs as police and{ she stated no . The u/s also asked if they were carrying weapons or had police radio's and she stated that she didn't see any. The u/s advised her that someone on the day tour will contact her and the other victims and continue with the investigation . The u/s again apologized for calling at a late hour and she thanked the u/s for my concern. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fulop For Congress posted Message 3144 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 14:13:41 Subject: FULOP BLASTS DIRTY POLITICS FULOP BLASTS DIRTY POLITICS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bob Menendez For Congress posted Message 3145 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 14:20:12 Subject: STATEMENT FROM MENENDEZ FOR CONGRESS REGARDING HUDSCON (sic) COUNTY "REFORM" DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE PETITIONS Bob Menendez For Congress FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 19, 2004 STATEMENT FROM MENENDEZ FOR CONGRESS REGARDING HUDSCON (sic) COUNTY "REFORM" DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE PETITIONS JERSEY CITY, NJ - Brad Lawrence, spokesman for Menendez for Congress, today made the following remarks in response to allegations set forth by the Hudson County `Reform' Democratic Committee: "Mayor Glenn Cunningham's Hudson County `Reform' Democratic Committee has a history of petition fraud dating back to its founding in 2002. In 2002, a Jersey City Police officer was ordered off the ballot after several petitions were found to be fraudulently circulated. In 2003, the `Reform' Committee filed a candidate for County Committee without her knowledge, forging her signature and fraudulently circulating her petition; they have repeated this offense again in 2004. Just last week, the `Reform' Committee's candidate for Jersey City School Board, Carmen Mendiola. was removed from the election ballot because she cannot prove the residency requirement, although she ran for State Senate in 2003. And, again, in 2004, the petitions filed for the `Reform' Committee's congressional candidate display the same patterns of fraud and irregularities, including forged signatures and dishonest circulation tactics. "Voters across the United States deserve to have candidates on their ballots who utilize legal methods to obtain the signatures necessary to qualify as primary candidates. Regardless of the level of government, elected officials are lawmakers not lawbreakers. Bob Menendez has dedicated his life to defending the principals of a participatory democracy and every citizen's right to vote. Mayor Cunningham's tactics of petition fraud annihilate the rights of honest voters and disgrace the freedoms we hold dear as Americans -- the freedoms our young men and women are fighting to protect daily overseas. "I am concerned and appalled at the continued pattern of fraud displayed by Mayor Cunningham and his `Reform' Committee. It is frightening to see that Mayor Cunningham, together with his party cohorts, continues to dishonor his public offices through illegal and fraudulent tactics and intimidation. After three years, it must be stopped. "Shame on you Mayor Cunningham, and shame on our candidates for allowing themselves to be part of this continuing pattern of fraudulent and illegal behavior." ### CAMPAIGN FINANCE OFFICE TELEPHONE: (201) 271-1661 • FAX: (201) 531-0724 - - - Editor's note: Two affidavits of forged signatures were included with this press release. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bob Menendez For Congress posted Message 3146 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 16:59:24 Subject: STATEMENT FROM MENENDEZ FOR CONGRESS REGARDING HUDSON COUNTY "REFORM" DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE PETITIONS Bob Menendez For Congress FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 19, 2004 STATEMENT FROM MENENDEZ FOR CONGRESS REGARDING HUDSON COUNTY "REFORM" DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE PETITIONS JERSEY CITY, NJ - Brad Lawrence, spokesman for Menendez for Congress, today made the following remarks in response to allegations set forth by the Hudson County `Reform' Democratic Committee: "Mayor Glenn Cunningham's Hudson County `Reform' Democratic Committee has a history of petition fraud dating back to its founding in 2002. In 2002, a Jersey City Police officer was ordered off the ballot after several petitions were found to be fraudulently circulated. In 2003, the `Reform' Committee filed a candidate for County Committee without her knowledge, forging her signature and fraudulently circulating her petition; they have repeated this offense again in 2004. Just last week, the `Reform' Committee's candidate for Jersey City School Board, Carmen Mendiola. was removed from the election ballot because she cannot prove the residency requirement, although she ran for State Senate in 2003. And, again, in 2004, the petitions filed for the `Reform' Committee's congressional candidate display the same patterns of fraud and irregularities, including forged signatures and dishonest circulation tactics. "Voters across the United States deserve to have candidates on their ballots who utilize legal methods to obtain the signatures necessary to qualify as primary candidates. Regardless of the level of government, elected officials are lawmakers not lawbreakers. Bob Menendez has dedicated his life to defending the principals of a participatory democracy and every citizen's right to vote. Mayor Cunningham's tactics of petition fraud annihilate the rights of honest voters and disgrace the freedoms we hold dear as Americans -- the freedoms our young men and women are fighting to protect daily overseas. "I am concerned and appalled at the continued pattern of fraud displayed by Mayor Cunningham and his `Reform' Committee. It is frightening to see that Mayor Cunningham, together with his party cohorts, continues to dishonor his public offices through illegal and fraudulent tactics and intimidation. After three years, it must be stopped. "Shame on you Mayor Cunningham, and shame on our candidates for allowing themselves to be part of this continuing pattern of fraudulent and illegal behavior." ### CAMPAIGN FINANCE OFFICE TELEPHONE: (201) 271-1661 • FAX: (201) 531-0724 - - - Editor's note: Two affidavits of forged signatures were included with this press release. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3147 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 17:01:40 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3148 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 18:29:18 Subject: Next Mayor will make "NO deals" Tom Gaynor will make "no deals" with the Inside Boys.Taxpayers will be his first priority.No Scams Or" BAD Deals"From Munley.Jersey City Will be Saved. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3149 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 19:04:48 Subject: Re: Next Mayor will make "MO' deals" : Tom Gaynor will make "deals" with the Inside Boys.Taxpayers will not be his first priority.No Scams Or" BAD Deals"From Munley.Jersey City Will not be Saved. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaynor in Nursing Home at Last posted Message 3150 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 19, 2004 at 19:52:17 Subject: Gaynot Surrounded By Nurses At last Tom Gaynor is where he really belongs in the Nursing Home. Tell us Mayor/Sentor Cunningham.I Think Tom Gaynor is right about you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3151 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 07:19:25 Subject: Jedsey has brains and is Honest Forget about Tom Gaynor ,he doesnt live in jersey City.Jedsey DiMatteo,is the man for the job.Jersey City has had more scams in the last three years to last us a lifetime.Jersey city will so be Scam free in 2005.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Scarinci Owns PoliticsNJ.com posted Message 3152 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 11:07:48 Subject: PoliticsNJ.com Won't Run Fulop Story Donald Scarinci's Website PoliticsNJ.com won't run any stories about Menendez Challenger Steven Fulop. Fulop a Marine who served in Iraq ,is challenging Menendez for the 13th Congressional Seat in the June 8 Democratic Primary. Typical bias reporting by a the PoliticsNJ.com website. A propaganda tool secretly owned by the THE DONALD - The Ultimate Insider. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3153 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 13:56:04 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of April 19, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3154 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 16:23:25 Subject: Congressional Candidate Fulop to be on TV Today Steve Fulop, primary challeger to Robert Menendez, is scheduled to be on News 12 at 5pm (News 12 generally repeats a segment through the afternoon) and on Channel 4 at 5pm or 6pm. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3155 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 18:22:49 Subject: School Board Election Today - Tuesday, April 20 - Polls open until 9pm The new machines are in use for this election. As (unfortunately) turnout is very light, now is a really good time to familiarize yourself with the new system. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan Eason posted Message 3156 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 18:36:10 Subject: Feds Informed of Voter Harassment Feds Informed of Voter Harassment ***************** End Of Article ****************** honey posted Message 3157 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 18:40:35 Subject: Re: School Board Election Today - Tuesday, April 20 - Polls open until 9pm : The new machines are in use for this election. As (unfortunately) turnout is very light, now is a really good time to familiarize yourself with the new system. The new machines are great, so easy, thank God President Bush can't cheat us no more, this is good for our Seniors and all the new people that will be voting for the up-cominig elections: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rev. Al posted Message 3158 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 19:17:01 Subject: How Do You Know When Rev. Allen is lying? How do you know when Rev. Allen is lying?.......His lips are moving! ***************** End Of Article ****************** honey posted Message 3159 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 19:24:49 Subject: Re: Feds Informed of Voter Harassment : Feds Informed of Voter Harassment You go Mayor/ Senator, Glenn D. Cunningham, we love that you are not afraid to stand up for what's right for the people that's why you are going to win in 2005, the HCDO is afraid of you Mayor / Senator, you could be Congressman next term if you choose to be because of your positive political career: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rev. Al posted Message 3160 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 20:23:31 Subject: How do you know when Glenn is lying? How do you know when Glenn is lying?.....Stan is typing! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another Poltergeist posted Message 3161 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 20:25:43 Subject: Re: Congressional Candidate Fulop to be on TV Today did you see fulop on news12? He looks like a lost puppy. Run to the light little stevie! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The real reason: posted Message 3162 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 20:27:30 Subject: Re: PoliticsNJ.com Won't Run Fulop Story fulop cant find anything real to talk about in a election year so full of issues? Give me a break. Issues little boy not imaginary friends. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another butt boy for glenn posted Message 3163 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 20:28:51 Subject: Re: Feds Informed of Voter Harassment >-fulop will definitely learn about political shenanigans w/ conman cunningham ***************** End Of Article ****************** praying as i type posted Message 3164 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 22:10:48 Subject: Re: Feds Informed of Voter Harassment god help us if that ever happens. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Crazy Talk posted Message 3165 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 22:32:22 Subject: Re: Feds Informed of Voter Harassment Glen as a member of congress? That is crazy talk. I don't think he is a bad mayor. But I wish he would stop attacking everyone who doesn't agree with him. There are a lot of problems in JC and instead of working with others he keeps picking ridiculous fights. My biggest complaint about glen is that he is selfish. Whether you like menendez or not, he could help Kerry beat push. but no, instead he is running a primary against some punk kid who has lived in JC all of 20 minutes. : : Feds Informed of Voter Harassment : You go Mayor/ Senator, Glenn D. Cunningham, we love that you are not afraid to stand up for what's right for the people that's why you are going to win in 2005, the HCDO is afraid of you Mayor / Senator, you could be Congressman next term if you choose to be because of your positive political career: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who is this guy? posted Message 3166 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 22:34:19 Subject: Re: Feds Informed of Voter Harassment Who is this guy - Fulop. A 27 year old from the suburbs. Does he even really live in JC? I never seen him. This must be a practical joke. : Feds Informed of Voter Harassment ***************** End Of Article ****************** God Save JC posted Message 3167 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 22:36:47 Subject: Re: Congressional Candidate Fulop to be on TV Today hummmmm, hummmm, hummm. For a kid making a lot of money on wall street he did look lost. Maybe Ayala and Jackson can should hold up clue cards : did you see fulop on news12? He looks like a lost puppy. Run to the light little stevie! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Clueless in the City posted Message 3168 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 20, 2004 at 22:38:42 Subject: Re: Congressional Candidate Fulop to be on TV Today : hummmmm, hummmm, hummm. : For a kid making a lot of money on wall street he did look lost. Maybe Ayala and Jackson can should hold up clue cards : : did you see fulop on news12? He looks like a lost puppy. Run to the light little stevie! You are exactly right. The kid doesn't even look like he shaves. And everytime he talks he mentions he was in Iraq. If you go to his web site it sounds like he spent a year working on a tan and pumping gas for the real soldiers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3169 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 04:03:54 Subject: News 12: Allegations of misconduct surface in District 13 congressional race Please click on the Link to visit the News 12 Web Site to read the story and access the video. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3170 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 07:31:01 Subject: Who is the real mayor of JC? Is it McCann Or Bobby Jaskson or Joe Cardwell. One thing we do know its not the Conman Cunningham.Tom Gaynor in 2005 ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3171 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 08:54:15 Subject: Jersey City School Board Election Results Board of Education - Jersey City Completed Precincts: 106 of 114 (92.98%) Vote Count Percent Terrence Curran 1,971 25.28% Jeffrey Dublin 1,827 23.44% Carmine R. Venezia 1,464 18.78% Edward Cheatam 1,071 13.74% Vinod Patel 1,024 13.13% Ellery Karl 359 4.60% Personal Choice 43 0.55% Carmen E. Mendiola 37 0.47% Total 7,796 100.00% ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3172 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 10:35:50 Subject: Re: Feds Informed of Voter Harassment : Feds Informed of Voter Harassment An individual made a complaint to a number of Internet access companies about the posting of this City of Jersey City press release. Are there people who not only sanction voter intimidation, but who also want to end freedom of speech? ***************** End Of Article ****************** DoctorJoyce posted Message 3173 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 10:56:27 Subject: Buying a used car Would you buy a used car from four of the five pictured above. I hope not. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3174 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 11:06:16 Subject: Would you buy a used car from this man? : Would you buy a used car from four of the five pictured above. I hope not. And which one would you want to send off to Communipaw Avenue? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Expose Menendez's Past posted Message 3175 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 11:41:47 Subject: Menendez Afraid Of Fair Fight Boss Menendez has bullied and clawed his way to the top - destroying and climbing over countless individuals including his own wife Jane Jacobsen-Menendez. Menendez is Afraid of a fair fight because he is afraid of the truth. Steven Fulop should expose the truth about Congressman Menendez. It's time to tell the public about Boss Menendez's dirty secrets. Secrets that Menendez constantly tries to hide from the public. Menendez began his political career as Secretary to the Union City Board Of Education. An organization known for corruption and kickbacks in a School Construction Scam. As Board Secretary Menendez personally signed all the school board checks that went to the crooked contractor who was a kick back artist. Inorder to avoid prosecution Menendez became a Federal Informant and ratted on his fellow cohorts. This is all a matter of public record .... including all the checks Menendez personally signed .....even double payments made as part of the scam. It is time the voters know the whole truth about the Third Ranking Democrat in the Congress. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3176 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 12:10:30 Subject: Re: Menendez Afraid Of Fair Fight If the poster would like to supply the public records that are referred to, I'll place them Online here. Without those documents, the post had to be edited. : Boss Menendez has bullied and clawed his way to the top - destroying and climbing over countless individuals including his own wife Jane Jacobsen-Menendez. : Menendez is Afraid of a fair fight because he is afraid of the truth. : Steven Fulop should expose the truth about Congressman Menendez. It's time to tell the public about Boss Menendez's dirty secrets. Secrets that Menendez constantly tries to hide from the public. : Menendez began his political career as Secretary to the Union City Board Of Education. An organization known for corruption and kickbacks in a School Construction Scam. THIS POST WAS EDITED! checks that went to the crooked contractor who was a kick back artist. THIS POST WAS EDITED! : This is all a matter of public record .... THIS POST WAS EDITED! .....even double payments made as part of the scam. : It is time the voters know the whole truth about the Third Ranking Democrat in the Congress. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hot Air posted Message 3177 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 15:58:39 Subject: Re: Menendez Afraid Of Fair Fight Blah, blah, blah. This fight is just silly. Fulop is a joke of a candidate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stan Eason posted Message 3178 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 18:27:18 Subject: Mayor Cunningham Endorses Ticket -- Slate Offers Change from "Same Old Hudson Politics" Mayor Cunningham Endorses Ticket ***************** End Of Article ****************** honey posted Message 3179 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 18:55:44 Subject: Re: Who is the real mayor of JC? : Is it McCann Or Bobby Jaskson or Joe Cardwell. One thing we do know its not the Conman Cunningham.Tom Gaynor in 2005 Thank God for our wonderful Mayor / Senator Mr. Glenn D. Cunningham for his smarts: We won again get ready and watch the primary: smile ***************** End Of Article ****************** honey posted Message 3180 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 19:40:28 Subject: Re: Mayor Cunningham Endorses Ticket -- Slate Offers Change from "Same Old Hudson Politics" : Mayor Cunningham Endorses Ticket And we shall work very hard in Ward A to see that he gets in: (Smile) Mr. Stan H. Easton ***************** End Of Article ****************** Slip Of the Tongue posted Message 3181 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 19:42:17 Subject: Silly ? Strange that the poster used the word " Silly " - That is the same word Menendez used in the Newspaper report concerning the harassment tactics. : Blah, blah, blah. This fight is just silly. Fulop is a joke of a candidate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** God Bless Glenn Cunningham posted Message 3182 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 19:45:48 Subject: Stand Strong Mayor Cunningham God Bless You Glenn Cunningham. Stand Strong Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Honey I wuv you! posted Message 3183 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 20:23:25 Subject: Re: Who is the real mayor of JC? Okkie dokkie Sandy.....nothing like a women who stands by her man. Shame your not a blonde...all of his dreams would come true! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Go to Hell Glenn Cunningham posted Message 3184 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 20:26:30 Subject: Our Mayor the Weasel I love how you Cunningham koolaid drinkers wrap yourselves in religion. The Mayor is a fraud and a phony. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Real Weasles posted Message 3185 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 20:29:01 Subject: Menendez & Joe Barry You want real frauds and phonies ? Look at Menendez , Joe Barry and Bernie Kenny. The clock is ticking........... : I love how you Cunningham koolaid drinkers wrap yourselves in religion. The Mayor is a fraud and a phony. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Otto Von Bismarck posted Message 3186 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 20:44:31 Subject: Gee .... butt boy ? I thought you were referring to Anthony ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3187 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 20:51:32 Subject: Sorry ... As I hear it .. Bobby Jackson has the copyright for that joke. All Jersey City uses it when referring to him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lern ta spel. posted Message 3188 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 20:53:58 Subject: It's .. WEASELS And everyone knows them. Cardwell, Jackson, Drayton, Sandy, Glenn, etal. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3189 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 21:03:51 Subject: Remember Bill Macchi ? That colossus of Jersey City politics, Bret Schundler, tried to run Bill Macchi against Bob Janiszewski for County Executive. Some people thought Bret's pulling power in Jersey City would carry the day. Wrong !!! In much the same way Glenn Cunningham thinks he can pluck an unknown like Fulop, and by endorsing him, will carry the day against Menendez. It won't happen. Glenn's supporters aren't going to come out and vote for a 27 year old white guy. Smells like a 80% to 20 % Menendez victory. No matter how much Fulop propaganda gets posted on this site. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gomer Pyle posted Message 3190 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 21:12:37 Subject: Re: Gee .... Nah, the torched has been passed to the new lil' Stevie! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3191 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 21:13:23 Subject: Re: Remember Bill Macchi ? : That colossus of Jersey City politics, Bret Schundler, tried to run Bill Macchi against Bob Janiszewski for County Executive. Some people thought Bret's pulling power in Jersey City would carry the day. : Wrong !!! : In much the same way Glenn Cunningham thinks he can pluck an unknown like Fulop, and by endorsing him, will carry the day against Menendez. It won't happen. Glenn's supporters aren't going to come out and vote for a 27 year old white guy. : Smells like a 80% to 20 % Menendez victory. No matter how much Fulop propaganda gets posted on this site. 75% to 25%= Jersey City Gives Menendez the Thumbs Down There are many definitions of Victory. During the Battle of the Bulge, the Reich won many engagements. The only problem for them was that they went on to lose the war. By the way, How is Bill? His wife is at the County now. . . And remember Dr. Paul Jordan! ***************** End Of Article ****************** It works well for both of these fools. posted Message 3192 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 21:16:05 Subject: Re: Sorry ... Hey, Chak. I am allowed to use it. I have special privileges from Wally! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good Memory posted Message 3193 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 21:36:13 Subject: Remember Jack Finn ? : : That colossus of Jersey City politics, Bret Schundler, tried to run Bill Macchi against Bob Janiszewski for County Executive. Some people thought Bret's pulling power in Jersey City would carry the day. : : Wrong !!! : : In much the same way Glenn Cunningham thinks he can pluck an unknown like Fulop, and by endorsing him, will carry the day against Menendez. It won't happen. Glenn's supporters aren't going to come out and vote for a 27 year old white guy. : : Smells like a 80% to 20 % Menendez victory. No matter how much Fulop propaganda gets posted on this site. : 75% to 25%= Jersey City Gives Menendez the Thumbs Down : There are many definitions of Victory. : During the Battle of the Bulge, the Reich won many engagements. The only problem for them was that they went on to lose the war. : By the way, How is Bill? His wife is at the County now. . . : And remember Dr. Paul Jordan! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Heavy Handed Tactics posted Message 3194 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 21, 2004 at 21:41:01 Subject: Why The Menendez Goon Squad ? Kennelley - then why the heavy handed Goon Squad tactics ???? Menendez - Offense is his only Defense! And while your traveling down memory lane -- REMEMBER MENENDEZ AND BILL MUSTO ? That colossus of Jersey City politics, Bret Schundler, tried to run Bill Macchi against Bob Janiszewski for County Executive. Some people thought Bret's pulling power in Jersey City would carry the day. : Wrong !!! : In much the same way Glenn Cunningham thinks he can pluck an unknown like Fulop, and by endorsing him, will carry the day against Menendez. It won't happen. Glenn's supporters aren't going to come out and vote for a 27 year old white guy. : Smells like a 80% to 20 % Menendez victory. No matter how much Fulop propaganda gets posted on this site. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3195 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 07:10:47 Subject: Keep it simple-ABC Anybody but Cunningham.Jersey City needs a honest Leader. Right now that is lacking.Regards to all my friends from the beautiful shore. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3196 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 07:18:46 Subject: Come back home Tom Gaynor Tom,come back to Jersey city and fight the good fight.This gang must be stopped.Jersey City is falling apart at the seams.Jedsey DiMatteo,talk to tom. he will listen to you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Copernicus posted Message 3197 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 07:20:19 Subject: Re: Remember Bill Macchi ? : : That colossus of Jersey City politics, Bret Schundler, tried to run Bill Macchi against Bob Janiszewski for County Executive. Some people thought Bret's pulling power in Jersey City would carry the day. : : Wrong !!! : : In much the same way Glenn Cunningham thinks he can pluck an unknown like Fulop, and by endorsing him, will carry the day against Menendez. It won't happen. Glenn's supporters aren't going to come out and vote for a 27 year old white guy. : : Smells like a 80% to 20 % Menendez victory. No matter how much Fulop propaganda gets posted on this site. : 75% to 25%= Jersey City Gives Menendez the Thumbs Down : There are many definitions of Victory. : During the Battle of the Bulge, the Reich won many engagements. The only problem for them was that they went on to lose the war. : By the way, How is Bill? His wife is at the County now. . . : And remember Dr. Paul Jordan! Bill is doing fine. After he was fired by Cunningham at the MUA he landed a position at the Community College where he is a genuine asset. ***************** End Of Article ****************** those who can teach posted Message 3198 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 07:45:40 Subject: word recognition alive and well in jc politics absolutely fabulous that you can recognize a simple word the second time you see it. Your 2nd grade teacher must have been a peach. Catholic school, maybe? ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3199 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 09:00:05 Subject: JCHA scandal Will the Conman Cunningham have anything to say at the press conference regarding his many scams and land "deals" with Mark "BAD DEALS" Munley.I think not.I agree with the ABC idea. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's The Real Story posted Message 3200 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 11:17:48 Subject: Menendez & Musto : Kennelley - then why the heavy handed Goon Squad tactics ???? : Menendez - Offense is his only Defense! : And while your traveling down memory lane -- : REMEMBER MENENDEZ AND BILL MUSTO ? : That colossus of Jersey City politics, Bret Schundler, tried to run Bill Macchi against Bob Janiszewski for County Executive. Some people thought Bret's pulling power in Jersey City would carry the day. : : Wrong !!! : : In much the same way Glenn Cunningham thinks he can pluck an unknown like Fulop, and by endorsing him, will carry the day against Menendez. It won't happen. Glenn's supporters aren't going to come out and vote for a 27 year old white guy. : : Smells like a 80% to 20 % Menendez victory. No matter how much Fulop propaganda gets posted on this site. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3201 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 11:24:06 Subject: The press conference What in the world was Cunningham talking about at the press conference today.. These are the same people who put him in office ,in the first place.How soon we forget,Janiszewski, Kenny & Menendez.Remember all the money you took from them ,Cunningham.In order to defeat ,Tom deGise.I remember. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3202 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 15:04:55 Subject: Video: Glenn Cunningham Endorses Steven Fulop for Congress To access Part 2 of the Online video, please click on the Link. Part 1 will be posted here today. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fulop For Congress posted Message 3203 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 17:04:10 Subject: Steven Fulop Endorsed by Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham For Immediate Release Press Contact: Steven Newmark snewmark@dstevenfulop.com Steven Fulop Endorsed by Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham Fulop poised to lead the slate of the Reform Democrats (April 22, 2004) (Jersey City, NJ) Democratic Congressional Candidate Steven Fulop was endorsed by Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham at a Press Conference today at City Hall. Fulop was pleased with the endorsement announcing, "We stand here today united on the Reform ticket and call upon the residents of the 13th District to make a vote against the corruption that has marred politics in the region over the last several years." Fulop took a leave of absence trom his position at Goldman Sachs to join the U.S. Marines Corps Reserves following the attacks on America, September 11, 2001. He did a tour in Iraq during the war which strengthened his resolve to fight for American's values and freedom. Fulop is pleased to have the backing of Mayor Cunningham and looks forward to the upcoming campaign season. ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3204 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 17:44:44 Subject: Video: Glenn Cunningham Endorses Fulop For Congress Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham endorses the Reform Democrats ticket in the primary election for Congress. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3205 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 18:10:20 Subject: Glenn Cunningham's Remarks On Endorsing the Reform Democrats' Congressional Candidates Good morning Jersey City is the second largest city in New Jersey and we are a city without a Congressman. For the last 14 years, Jersey City has been carved up by the political bosses outside our borders. We have seen our political currency diminished We have seen our needs put behind the interests of the outside political bosses. It is time now for Jersey City to send a strong voice for its needs to Washington. In this culture dominated by corruption, and criminal investigations it is time for a fresh face to represent Jersey City and the 13th Congressional District in Washington. Marines remember Corps values. These are the values we are guided by. First and foremost, Marines never leave anyone behind. Our present Congressman has left Jersey City behind! (Bergen Arches and Liberty Tower) It's time to call out the Marines to fight for Jersey City. And Congressman Menendez was never a Marine, or soldier, or sailor or an airman. Right now I'd like to introduce a man who has those Corps values and will use them to fight for Jersey City and for the entire 13th Congressional District. Steven Fulop, a man who volunteered to fight for his Country and for Democracy in Iraq, He has returned from his tour of duty in Baghdad. He is currently in the Marine Corps reserves, and now wants to serve his country in the Halls of Congress representing Jersey City and the 13th District. • Steve Fulop, 27-year-old Jersey City resident. • Executive with Goldman Sachs. • True patriot, gave up great job at Goldman Sacks following the attacks on America, 9-11 to become Marine in the U.S. Marine Reserves. • Risked his life in Baghdad, Iraq for our country, and freedoms. • Continues to fight for his country, here as a congressional Candidate. • But Bob Menendez and the political bosses don't want to face a challenge, a new voice. • The sent our their thugs to intimidate petition signers who support Mr. Fulop. That's not American, that's illegal. Rev. ALLEN, • A man of god who is a community activist and a spiritual leader in Jersey City. • Rev. Allen's heart is with the community, as he has shown and he will be a great advocate for the people of Jersey City and Newark. SEAN CONNORS • Jersey City Police Officer who risks his life everyday for the residents of our community. • He will represent us well in Congress because his heart is with the community. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Alleluia posted Message 3206 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 18:20:28 Subject: Rev Alen is gone, gone, gone our mayor sure knows how to pick em, hey? ***************** End Of Article ****************** : ) posted Message 3207 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 19:17:24 Subject: Re: Rev Alen is gone, gone, gone lmao...BYE BYE big bird! ***************** End Of Article ****************** shhhhhh! YOU SAID THE WHITE WORD! posted Message 3208 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 19:18:23 Subject: Re: Menendez & Musto : : : Kennelley - then why the heavy handed Goon Squad tactics ???? : : Menendez - Offense is his only Defense! : : And while your traveling down memory lane -- : : REMEMBER MENENDEZ AND BILL MUSTO ? : : : That colossus of Jersey City politics, Bret Schundler, tried to run Bill Macchi against Bob Janiszewski for County Executive. Some people thought Bret's pulling power in Jersey City would carry the day. : : : Wrong !!! : : : In much the same way Glenn Cunningham thinks he can pluck an unknown like Fulop, and by endorsing him, will carry the day against Menendez. It won't happen. Glenn's supporters aren't going to come out and vote for a 27 year old white guy. : : : Smells like a 80% to 20 % Menendez victory. No matter how much Fulop propaganda gets posted on this site. ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3209 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 21:02:51 Subject: Good Job Mayor Keep up the good work Mayor God Bless You: ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3210 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 21:05:09 Subject: Re: Keep it simple-ABC : Anybody but Cunningham.Jersey City needs a honest Leader. Right now that is lacking.Regards to all my friends from the beautiful shore. Get a life please: ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO posted Message 3211 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 21:51:59 Subject: Re: Good Job Mayor Yeah...Great job your word is golden .....let's go to the stats. 1) Backed a lawyer who tried to run for school board who lied about her residency. 2) Endorsed Falto 3) Rev (sic) Allen 4) Using Sean Conners YUP WAY TO GO MAYOR! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth shall set you free Rev! posted Message 3212 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 21:56:32 Subject: Re: Good Job Mayor The Rev. Edward Allen has been removed from the ballot in the 10th district Democratic congressional primary for using unregistered voters to circulate his petitions. ***************** End Of Article ****************** AND SO ON posted Message 3213 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 23:04:35 Subject: Re: Good Job Mayor 5- MARK MUNLEY 6- GERRY MCCANN 7- GENE DRAYTON 8- BOBBY JACKSON 9- JOE CARDWELL 10- JIMMY KING ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3214 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 23:08:59 Subject: Sorry ... The devil made me do it . After all, all of us against Cunningham are godless devils aren't we ? : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL posted Message 3215 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 23:11:15 Subject: Re: Sorry ... ;) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3216 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 23:15:26 Subject: One of the good guys. Bill Macchi is a fine Christian gentleman and one of the truly nice people in Jersey City. I would hope that he would consider me a friend. Although I've often disagreed with the political sides Bill and Cathy have chosen, they have always remained good people, without the rancor and greed which infect most Jersey City pols. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rambo posted Message 3217 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 22, 2004 at 23:20:27 Subject: I wanna be a Marine It would seem that our Mayor thinks that only those that have worn a uniform are qualified to hold public office. He may have forgotten about Franklin Delano Roosevelt. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 3218 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2004 at 09:39:51 Subject: Re: Sorry ... : The devil made me do it . After all, all of us against Cunningham are godless devils aren't we ? : THE DEVIL MADE YOU DO IT! Please don't tell me you wear a wig, dress & heels. :-P ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 3219 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2004 at 09:42:41 Subject: Re: One of the good guys. : Bill Macchi is a fine Christian gentleman and one of the truly nice people in Jersey City. I would hope that he would consider me a friend. Although I've often disagreed with the political sides Bill and Cathy have chosen, they have always remained good people, without the rancor and greed which infect most Jersey City pols. :: I agree with you on this one my friend. Spoke with Cathy recently. People like the Macchi's is one of life's little pleasures. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3220 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2004 at 10:02:32 Subject: Why so much voter fraud from this gang? First concert ticket scams. Then Land deal Scams.Then JCHA scams Now voter scams.Does this tell you something about the Conman Cunningham Mis-Administration.What ever happen to honesty in Government in jersey city.Now i know why Tom & Nancy gaynor left.Jedsey ,when are you getting out of this corruption mud city? ***************** End Of Article ****************** While on State Payroll posted Message 3221 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2004 at 10:24:57 Subject: Gaynor Still Posting Using NJ State Computers Just another post from Tom Gaynor using a State OF New Jersey Computer when he should be working. Keep it Up Tom - It's called "Theft of Time " First concert ticket scams. Then Land deal Scams.Then JCHA scams Now voter scams.Does this tell you something about the Conman Cunningham Mis-Administration.What ever happen to honesty in Government in jersey city.Now i know why Tom & Nancy gaynor left.Jedsey ,when are you getting out of this corruption mud city? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Piatkowski For Congress posted Message 3222 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2004 at 10:42:51 Subject: On the Fight to Bring Democracy to Hudson County Piatkowski For Congress For Immediate Release: April 22, 2004 On the Fight to Bring Democracy to Hudson County Richard Piatkowski Republican candidate for the House of Representatives, 13th Congressional District, today issued the following statement: "For our men and women making innumerable sacrifices in the American effort to bring Liberty and Democracy to the people of Iraq, I have the highest respect and regard. "I am deeply troubled that one valiant young man, Steven Fulop, on returning home from Iraq now must struggle to bring Democracy to Hudson County. "Just like those bands of criminal miscreants bedeviling U.S. troops in Iraq, Mr. Fulop's cowardly opponents refuse to fight in the open. Instead of a healthy measure and review of policy and record, an on the sly a campaign of back room machinations, legalistic shenanigans, and dirty tricks attack Mr. Fulop from behind and under the cover of darkness. "In the campaign leading to this autumn's upcoming general election, I look forward to an energetic discussion of the issues with the candidate freely and openly chosen by the Democratic voters of the 13th Congressional District. I call on Bob Menendez to publicly declare the same." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Investigate Menendez Tactics posted Message 3223 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2004 at 11:06:55 Subject: Hudson County = Menendez's Bananna Republic Boss Menendez thinks Hudson County is his own little Havanna. It's time for the U.S. Attorney to set the record straight. : Piatkowski For Congress : For Immediate Release: : April 22, 2004 : On the Fight to Bring Democracy to Hudson County : Richard Piatkowski Republican candidate for the House of Representatives, 13th Congressional District, today issued the following statement: : "For our men and women making innumerable sacrifices in the American effort to bring Liberty and Democracy to the people of Iraq, I have the highest respect and regard. : "I am deeply troubled that one valiant young man, Steven Fulop, on returning home from Iraq now must struggle to bring Democracy to Hudson County. : "Just like those bands of criminal miscreants bedeviling U.S. troops in Iraq, Mr. Fulop's cowardly opponents refuse to fight in the open. Instead of a healthy measure and review of policy and record, an on the sly a campaign of back room machinations, legalistic shenanigans, and dirty tricks attack Mr. Fulop from behind and under the cover of darkness. : "In the campaign leading to this autumn's upcoming general election, I look forward to an energetic discussion of the issues with the candidate freely and openly chosen by the Democratic voters of the 13th Congressional District. I call on Bob Menendez to publicly declare the same." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3224 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2004 at 19:00:25 Subject: Tom Gaynor is retireing May12Th That is my birthday.Its my computer and my time once again.Why are you so concerned about protecting the Conman and his scams.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaynor Admits It posted Message 3225 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 23, 2004 at 19:56:57 Subject: Theft Of Time Once Again ?? So you admit that you Tom Gaynor have been using a NJ State Computer posting nonsense while you should have been working. SHAME ON YOU ! ! The ISP don't lie. : That is my birthday.Its my computer and my time once again.Why are you so concerned about protecting the Conman and his scams.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward D Cunningham Club posted Message 3226 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 05:43:37 Subject: All are Invited to March with Mayor Cunningham on Sunday, April 25th, 1:00pm March with Mayor Cunningham on Sunday, April 25th at 1:00pm Meet at Martin Luther King Drive and McAdoo. All are invited. Thank you. Ward D Cunningham Club ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kakakakatie posted Message 3227 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 08:35:38 Subject: Re: Now There's An Offer Thats Hard To Refuse : March with Mayor Cunningham on Sunday, April 25th at 1:00pm : Meet at Martin Luther King Drive and McAdoo. : All are invited. : Thank you. : Ward D Cunningham Club Walking the length of Jackson Ave with Glenn Cunningham, Maureen Corcoran and Pete Baran. Couldn't think of a better way to spend a Sunday afternoon. Can I bring the whole family? Will Sandy be there? How about Joan and Larry Young? You can sure count me in! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Saturday, April 24, 2004 posted Message 3228 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 09:42:29 Subject: 2 knocked off ballot not enough signatures 2 knocked off ballot not enough signatures Saturday, April 24, 2004 By Ken Thorbourne Journal staff writer In a blow to the efforts of Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham to field a full slate of candidates for the June primary, two congressional candidates have been disqualified on the grounds that they didn't submit enough valid signatures to get on the ballot. Administrative Law Judge Carol Cohen ruled yesterday that there were at least 95 invalid signatures on Sean Connors' nominating petitions in his bid to unseat 9th District Congressman Steve Rothman. That dropped him below the 200 needed to qualify. Likewise, the Rev. Edward Allen failed to get 200 signatures of registered voters residing in the 10th District to get on the ballot in his quest to unseat U.S. Rep. Donald Payne. Judge Edith Klinger ruled Thursday that Allen submitted only 167 valid signatures. Many of the signatures Allen submitted were thrown out because the people who collected them - including Allen himself - are not registered to vote in the 10th Congressional District. Klinger found that while a candidate for Congress can live outside of the district, those collecting signatures on the candidate's behalf must be registered to vote within the district. Allen lives in Jersey City but outside of the 10th District. His church in Newark - the Philemon Missionary Baptist Church, on Shephard Street - is inside the district. Stan H. Eason, a spokesman for Cunningham, called the disqualifications disappointing and chalked them up to clerical mistakes. "It was nothing premeditated or underhanded, just mistakes," Eason said. "The people who signed the petitions were legitimate. It was a case of the people collecting the petitions. "It's unfortunate people won't have a choice instead of the same old leadership. Our focus has been to change the way the organization has been run, starting right at the top, with the puppet master Robert Menendez." Menendez, who represents the 13th District, will face a challenge from Steven Fulop, who is running on the Cunningham-backed Hudson County Reform Democratic Committee slate. Allen said he plans to appeal the judge's ruling. Eason said Cunningham would support any appeals filed by Allen or Connors. "Mr. Payne's attitude is the best competition is no competition at all," Allen said. He is out of touch with the people of the 10th Congressional District. We certainly are going to appeal it. We submitted almost 400 signatures." Allen argued that the signature collectors shouldn't have to reside in the district. "The purpose of the (signature collector) is to affirm that the person who signs the petition is indeed that person," said Allen. "In my case, I am pastor of a church in the heart of the 10th District. I knew the people who were signing the petition." For his part, Payne said he was pleased with the decision, "which reaffirms the principle that all candidates must comply with federal and state campaign laws." Connors couldn't be reached for comment last night. Rothman's office lashed out at Connors for not meeting the statutory requirements to become a candidate. "The voters of the 9th Congressional District must be able to have confidence that a person whose name appears on the ballot has met the minimum legal requirements to be on that ballot," Rothman said in a prepared statement released by his office. The disqualification of Allen and Connors means that three Cunningham-backed candidates have been booted from election ballots in recent weeks. Jersey City school board candidate Carmen Mendiola, a Cunningham ally, was disqualified from running in Tuesday's election after a state Superior Court judge found she wasn't registered to vote in Jersey City at the time she filed to run. State Sen. Bernard F. Kenny Jr., chairman of the Hudson County Democratic Organization, which is backing all the incumbents on the June 8 ballot, applauded the Klinger ruling. "Today's court decision continues to demonstrate the irresponsible, illegal and fraudulent methods utilized by the so-called 'Reform' Democrats to place their candidates on the ballot," Kenny said. Willie Flood, chairwoman of the HCRDC, said she hadn't heard Allen had been disqualified when she was reached for comment yesterday. "I am really very surprised about this," Flood said. "We counted the number of signatures. It is something I didn't expect." Klinger also found fault with Allen petitions she received from valid collectors. On a petition circulated by Eric Gordon, Klinger ruled that eight out of the 60 signatures were invalid, either because the signer was not a registered voter or no verification of registration was possible. In a petition circulated by Philip Flood on behalf of Allen, Klinger found four out 10 signatures to be invalid. Allen also took some shots at Menendez, a political adversary of Cunningham's, charging that Menendez's congressional seat has been "gerrymandered to make sure Mr. Menendez has a base of Hispanic voters. "I am opposed to the deliberate and capricious act Menendez has played to help bring about the gerrymandering of the (13th Congressional) District." Nicholas Chiaravalloti, Menendez's campaign manager, said the boundaries of the 13th Congressional District were drawn before Menendez held federal office and was in fact an adoption of a Republican proposal. In regard to Allen's problems getting on the ballot, Chiaravalloti said: "Getting 200 legitimate signatures is a minimal show of support, and Rev. Allen was not even able to accomplish that." %%source%%Journal staff writer%%endsource%% Jeff Theodore contributed to this report ***************** End Of Article ****************** Happy happy joy joy posted Message 3229 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 09:48:48 Subject: Re: Now There's An Offer Thats Hard To Refuse Yippie! Running a close second to crewing broken glass, I can't think I a better thing to do! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3230 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 10:32:03 Subject: Conmans Marches If you want tosee who is on the city payroll. Come out and see the "Gofers" march with Cunningham.The call it the scam parade. ***************** End Of Article ****************** lol....oops posted Message 3231 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 10:47:39 Subject: Re: Now There's An Offer Thats Hard To Refuse : Yippie! : Running a close second to crewing broken glass, I can't think OF a better thing to do! ***************** End Of Article ****************** No Other Candidate posted Message 3232 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 10:49:23 Subject: To Victory In 2005 Ha Ha Tom Avon Gaynor -- Face it Senator Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham is here to stay !!! : If you want tosee who is on the city payroll. Come out and see the "Gofers" march with Cunningham.The call it the scam parade. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just Wait See posted Message 3233 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 10:59:11 Subject: Appeals Court to Reinstate HCDO using every trick in the book to avoid a fair fight. HCDO = Offense is it's only Defense ! Bernie Kenny -- How is Joe Barry ??? I see the Hoboken Council just voted to give The Applied Companies - President Michael Barry (Joe Barry's Son ) rights to build the $ 65 Million Hotel Tower. All eyes are watching !! : 2 knocked off ballot not enough signatures : Saturday, April 24, 2004 : By Ken Thorbourne : Journal staff writer : In a blow to the efforts of Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham to field a full slate of candidates for the June primary, two congressional candidates have been disqualified on the grounds that they didn't submit enough valid signatures to get on the ballot. : Administrative Law Judge Carol Cohen ruled yesterday that there were at least 95 invalid signatures on Sean Connors' nominating petitions in his bid to unseat 9th District Congressman Steve Rothman. That dropped him below the 200 needed to qualify. : Likewise, the Rev. Edward Allen failed to get 200 signatures of registered voters residing in the 10th District to get on the ballot in his quest to unseat U.S. Rep. Donald Payne. Judge Edith Klinger ruled Thursday that Allen submitted only 167 valid signatures. : Many of the signatures Allen submitted were thrown out because the people who collected them - including Allen himself - are not registered to vote in the 10th Congressional District. : Klinger found that while a candidate for Congress can live outside of the district, those collecting signatures on the candidate's behalf must be registered to vote within the district. : Allen lives in Jersey City but outside of the 10th District. His church in Newark - the Philemon Missionary Baptist Church, on Shephard Street - is inside the district. : Stan H. Eason, a spokesman for Cunningham, called the disqualifications disappointing and chalked them up to clerical mistakes. : "It was nothing premeditated or underhanded, just mistakes," Eason said. "The people who signed the petitions were legitimate. It was a case of the people collecting the petitions. : "It's unfortunate people won't have a choice instead of the same old leadership. Our focus has been to change the way the organization has been run, starting right at the top, with the puppet master Robert Menendez." : Menendez, who represents the 13th District, will face a challenge from Steven Fulop, who is running on the Cunningham-backed Hudson County Reform Democratic Committee slate. : Allen said he plans to appeal the judge's ruling. Eason said Cunningham would support any appeals filed by Allen or Connors. : "Mr. Payne's attitude is the best competition is no competition at all," Allen said. He is out of touch with the people of the 10th Congressional District. We certainly are going to appeal it. We submitted almost 400 signatures." : Allen argued that the signature collectors shouldn't have to reside in the district. : "The purpose of the (signature collector) is to affirm that the person who signs the petition is indeed that person," said Allen. "In my case, I am pastor of a church in the heart of the 10th District. I knew the people who were signing the petition." : For his part, Payne said he was pleased with the decision, "which reaffirms the principle that all candidates must comply with federal and state campaign laws." : Connors couldn't be reached for comment last night. : Rothman's office lashed out at Connors for not meeting the statutory requirements to become a candidate. : "The voters of the 9th Congressional District must be able to have confidence that a person whose name appears on the ballot has met the minimum legal requirements to be on that ballot," Rothman said in a prepared statement released by his office. : The disqualification of Allen and Connors means that three Cunningham-backed candidates have been booted from election ballots in recent weeks. : Jersey City school board candidate Carmen Mendiola, a Cunningham ally, was disqualified from running in Tuesday's election after a state Superior Court judge found she wasn't registered to vote in Jersey City at the time she filed to run. : State Sen. Bernard F. Kenny Jr., chairman of the Hudson County Democratic Organization, which is backing all the incumbents on the June 8 ballot, applauded the Klinger ruling. : "Today's court decision continues to demonstrate the irresponsible, illegal and fraudulent methods utilized by the so-called 'Reform' Democrats to place their candidates on the ballot," Kenny said. : Willie Flood, chairwoman of the HCRDC, said she hadn't heard Allen had been disqualified when she was reached for comment yesterday. : "I am really very surprised about this," Flood said. "We counted the number of signatures. It is something I didn't expect." : Klinger also found fault with Allen petitions she received from valid collectors. : On a petition circulated by Eric Gordon, Klinger ruled that eight out of the 60 signatures were invalid, either because the signer was not a registered voter or no verification of registration was possible. : In a petition circulated by Philip Flood on behalf of Allen, Klinger found four out 10 signatures to be invalid. : Allen also took some shots at Menendez, a political adversary of Cunningham's, charging that Menendez's congressional seat has been "gerrymandered to make sure Mr. Menendez has a base of Hispanic voters. : "I am opposed to the deliberate and capricious act Menendez has played to help bring about the gerrymandering of the (13th Congressional) District." : Nicholas Chiaravalloti, Menendez's campaign manager, said the boundaries of the 13th Congressional District were drawn before Menendez held federal office and was in fact an adoption of a Republican proposal. : In regard to Allen's problems getting on the ballot, Chiaravalloti said: "Getting 200 legitimate signatures is a minimal show of support, and Rev. Allen was not even able to accomplish that." : %%source%%Journal staff writer%%endsource%% Jeff Theodore contributed to this report : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Applied Companies Get Permit posted Message 3234 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 11:12:56 Subject: Bernie Kenny - How is Joe Barry ? Bernie Kenny -- How is Joe Barry ??? Bernie you work for Mr. Barry don't you ?? Doesn't your Law Firm represent The Applied Companies ? Don't you remember that when the Feds raided Barry's office in 2001 - YOU - SENATOR BERNARD KENNY CHECKED INTO THE HOSPITAL ? BTW -I see the Hoboken Council just voted to give The Applied Companies - President Michael Barry (Joe Barry's Son ) rights to build the $ 65 Million Hotel Tower. I am sure the US Attorney finds this very interesting. All eyes are watching !! Time to have another drink. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Connect The Dots posted Message 3235 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 11:29:57 Subject: HCDO Keeps Joe Barry Quiet Hoboken lets hotel tower build higher Council vote is 5-4 during overflow session Saturday, April 24, 2004 By Maria Zingaro Conte Journal staff writer HOBOKEN - Following a raucous public hearing, the City Council voted 5-4 to allow a new waterfront hotel to rise 100 feet taller than called for in the building's original plans. The vote on the project prompted hundreds to turn out for Wednesday night's meeting to weigh in on the project. Both proponents and foes of the proposal packed the council chambers to capacity and spilled into the adjoining hallway as they waited for a chance to speak. The 25-story hotel will distinguish itself from surrounding structures, making it an icon of the Hoboken waterfront, supporters say. The improved design will also help to entice a world-class hotelier to operate there, they said. But opponents say the building will be too tall and will ruin the look of Hoboken's waterfront, blocking the light and encroaching on the open space there. The project will also wind up costing the city money, they noted. Although a hotel operator has not yet been officially named, developer David Barry of the Applied Companies said negotiations are continuing with the upscale W Hotel chain. "We set out to create one of the finest hotels in the world on that site on the southern waterfront," he said. The hotel plans were designed by Gwathmey-Seigel & Associates - the architectural firm that designed the Morgan Stanley headquarters in Times Square. It is planned for River Street between Second and Third streets, completing the redevelopment of the city's southern waterfront. The wedge-shaped building will afford unimpeded waterfront views to about 80 percent of its 225 rooms and 50 residential suites. It will also contain a 5,000-square-foot banquet hall, meetings rooms, a spa and several restaurants. The project received the support of Mayor David Roberts, and the council's vote fell along pro- and anti-Roberts lines. The mayor's allies - Council President Ruben Ramos Jr., along with Councilmen Chris Campos, Michael Cricco, Richard Del Boccio and Nino Giacchi - all supported the project revisions, saying the new plan was aesthetically superior to the old. Voting against the project were council members Theresa Castellano, Carol Marsh, Michael Russo and Tony Soares, who said the city would be hurt financially by the hotel deal. Although Wednesday night's vote raised the permissible building height from 175 feet to 275 feet, the structure's total square footage will increase by only about 30,000, officials said, because the building will also be narrower than originally planned. The taller, thinner structure would bring more light and better air circulation to the street level, they said. Many in the crowd who were there to support the hotel plan waved red "W" cutouts and wore black baseball caps inscribed with the W Hotel logo. The new building, they said, will help bring jobs to the city, revitalize the local economy and add a measure of prestige to the Mile Square City. "I can't think of a better fit for Hoboken than a W hotel," said Craig Goldstein, a Willow Street resident. "I have friends from all over and I can't wait to have this hotel so I can put them up here." Others cited the economic benefits the new hotel would bring to the city. "I truly believe this will stimulate the economy for business owners in Hoboken without a doubt," said Hudson Street businessman Gilbert Flores. But opponents of the project said the added height would not generate additional revenue for the city because of a tax abatement deal the developers struck with the city. "The citizens of this town are getting ripped off," said Park Street resident Dan Tumpson, a former mayoral candidate. "Have the developers pay their fair share." Objectors also said the building would be too tall and accused the project's council supporters of re-reneging on the building plans - approved a year ago, also amid controversy - which brought the building to 17 stories, up from an original 14-story height. "These guys seem to consider a signed contract as a first offer," Grand Street resident Michael Lenz said of the building's developers. Ron Hine, the executive director of the Fund for a Better Waterfront, an organization that opposes the project, was shouted down when he charged that city leaders had given the developers a sweet deal in return for nearly $45,000 in campaign contributions given during the last election cycle. "This is called pay to play," he shouted over the crowd. "There's not a level playing field. This is absolutely wrong. This shouldn't be happening." Castellano expressed similar dismay over the project. She said she had told her First Ward constituents - people who will be directly affected by the new building rising in their neighborhood - not to even bother attending the meeting to fight the project because it was already a done deal. "It doesn't fit into what the fabric of Hoboken looks like," she said. "I lament for our city. I lament for our waterfront." Maria Zingaro Conte can be reached at mzconte@jjournal.com : Bernie Kenny -- How is Joe Barry ??? : Bernie you work for Mr. Barry don't you ?? : Doesn't your Law Firm represent The Applied Companies ? : Don't you remember that when the Feds raided Barry's office in 2001 - YOU - SENATOR BERNARD KENNY CHECKED INTO THE HOSPITAL ? : BTW -I see the Hoboken Council just voted to give The Applied Companies - President Michael Barry (Joe Barry's Son ) rights to : build the $ 65 Million Hotel Tower. : I am sure the US Attorney finds this very interesting. : All eyes are watching !! : Time to have another drink. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3236 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 13:20:12 Subject: Get Non City Workers March with the Conman Or is this a close shop for the helpers of the scam artist ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Republican Party posted Message 3237 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 17:17:39 Subject: Kenneth C. Marano -- Hudson County Republican Party Candidate for Surrogate Attorney Kenneth C. Marano, a Jersey City resident for ten years, is the Republican Party Candidate for Surrogate of Hudson County. He was born in Holy Name Hospital, Teaneck, New Jersey and spent his early years growing up in River Edge. He graduated from King’s College, Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania where he earned a Bachelor of Arts Degree. As a pre-law student he majored in English Literature and minored in Philosophy Mr. Marano graduated from South Texas College of Law, Houston, Texas where he earned a Juris Doctor Degree. Upon graduation from law school, Mr. Marano practiced for eight years in Pennsylvania. He maintained a limited general practice of law with particular emphasis in the areas of wills, trusts, estate planning and administration, custody and matrimonial law, real estate, personal injury and social security disability. He specialized in trial work in those areas and early in his career focused primarily on criminal defense of major crimes including murder. Mr. Marano also served as an Assistant Solicitor (Attorney) for the City of Wilkes-Barre Township. Mr. Marano brought his legal expertise to his native New Jersey where he was admitted to practice in 1982. He continued to broaden his litigation experience by practicing in the areas of bankruptcy law, workers compensation, general contract and real estate litigation. He also returned to his early roots in criminal law and served as a prosecutor for two municipalities. Mr. Marano has been an active Trial Attorney handling cases in virtually every area of the law. He has appeared and presented cases before Administrative Courts, Government Agency or Boards and Planning and Zoning Boards. He regularly appears and tries cases in the Superior Court of New Jersey for Hudson, Passaic and Bergen County’s. He has appeared and argued cases before the Appellate Courts of New Jersey and Pennsylvania as well as recently arguing an insurance case before New Jersey’s Supreme Court. One of his Appeals in Pennsylvania resulted in a change in the manner the Department of Motor Vehicle assessed points against licenses. He also defended a case that established/confirmed the requirement for Police to have reasonable cause before stopping a motorist and requiring the person submit to a Breathalyzer. Mr. Marano has an Office in Jersey City. He is also Of Counsel to the Law Office of Norberto H. Yacano, which is located in Paterson. He has throughout his career managed not only his caseload and clients but also all of the staff necessary to maintain an active practice of Law. Mr. Marano is licensed to appear and practice before the United States Supreme Court, the United States 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals, the United States District Court for New Jersey, the United States District Courts for the Eastern and Middle Districts Courts of Pennsylvania and all State County Courts in both New Jersey and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. He is a member of Phi Alpha Delta International Law Fraternity and served recently as its District XX II (New Jersey, Delaware and Eastern Pennsylvania) Justice. Mr. Marano has two children, Scott and Kristin. His son is a graduate of Berkley College of Music and Salve Regina University. He is currently employed by the Marriott Corporation in Newport, Rhode Island. His daughter Kristin is a graduate of the University of Indiana and is a geologist working for Brown and Caldwell located in Allendale. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3238 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 18:01:40 Subject: Re: Conmans Marches Nancy, we have the name of a good divorce lawyer if you want one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nancy Gaynor posted Message 3239 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 18:02:50 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor is retireing May12Th Pray for me please. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3240 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 18:05:00 Subject: Re: Come back home Tom Gaynor Your cell has been repadded. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blackballed By Menenedez Kenny posted Message 3241 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 19:14:21 Subject: Lovely Nancy Lovely Nancy - Shunned By her so called friend Tom DePuppet. Nancy knows how evil Menendez & Kenny can be. Mr.Gaynor - it's time you wake up too (if physically possible). : Nancy, we have the name of a good divorce lawyer if you want one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3242 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 19:36:31 Subject: Ward C "Gofer"Jacket Should i wear my Ward C "Gofer" jacket for the Conman Parade Tomorrow? ***************** End Of Article ****************** CALL 732-897-1833 posted Message 3243 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 19:54:44 Subject: 24 Hour Order Hotline We are taking orders for these beauiful jackets 24 hours a day - Mention Tom Gaynor and get the jacket for only $ 10. Since Nancy cannot get a Job from Tom DePuppet we are forced to make money tailoring these fine garments for Mr. King. We will even put your name on the jacket as part of our service. Should i wear my Ward C "Gofer" jacket for the Conman Parade Tomorrow? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3244 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 20:55:43 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandy Whipped posted Message 3245 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 21:33:28 Subject: Why .. pray tell is there a march ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3246 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 22:42:01 Subject: Re: Welcome to the Message Board. : Welcome to the Message Board. The parade have been ran by comcast for many years now Jersey City have its own channel which is chanel 1, George Wilson wants Diane Morgan to do the T.V. station so that she can advertise for the Degise Team maybe he thinks that he's going to get a job, wrong buddy they don't respect you Mr. George Wilson: Do your thing Viginia and Stan: Smile ***************** End Of Article ****************** Friar Tuck posted Message 3247 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 24, 2004 at 23:57:21 Subject: Re: That Is One Pitiful Post : : Welcome to the Message Board. : : The parade have been ran by comcast for many years now Jersey City have its own channel which is chanel 1, George Wilson : wants Diane Morgan to do the T.V. station so that she can advertise for the Degise Team maybe he thinks that he's going to get a job, wrong buddy they don't respect you Mr. George Wilson: : Do your thing Viginia and Stan: Smile : Please english, not ebonics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3248 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 25, 2004 at 07:12:47 Subject: Re: That Is One Pitiful Post : : : Welcome to the Message Board. : : : : The parade have been ran by comcast for many years now Jersey City have its own channel which is chanel 1, George Wilson : : wants Diane Morgan to do the T.V. station so that she can advertise for the Degise Team maybe he thinks that he's going to get a job, wrong buddy they don't respect you Mr. George Wilson: : : Do your thing Viginia and Stan: Smile : : : Please english, not ebonics. : You got the message now did'nt you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lumpy Rutherford posted Message 3249 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 25, 2004 at 10:01:47 Subject: Let me take a wild guess : : : : Welcome to the Message Board. : : : : : : The parade have been ran by comcast for many years now Jersey City have its own channel which is chanel 1, George Wilson : : : wants Diane Morgan to do the T.V. station so that she can advertise for the Degise Team maybe he thinks that he's going to get a job, wrong buddy they don't respect you Mr. George Wilson: : : : Do your thing Viginia and Stan: Smile : : : : : Please english, not ebonics. : : : You got the message now did'nt you. Snyder High. Am I right? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3250 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 25, 2004 at 10:28:03 Subject: Re: Let me take a wild guess : : : : : Welcome to the Message Board. : : : : : : : : The parade have been ran by comcast for many years now Jersey City have its own channel which is chanel 1, George Wilson : : : : wants Diane Morgan to do the T.V. station so that she can advertise for the Degise Team maybe he thinks that he's going to get a job, wrong buddy they don't respect you Mr. George Wilson: : : : : Do your thing Viginia and Stan: Smile : : : : : : : Please english, not ebonics. : : : : : You got the message now did'nt you. : Snyder High. Am I right? Are you saying that Tom DeGise didn't do a good job as a teacher? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBETHIPPY posted Message 3251 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 25, 2004 at 16:27:24 Subject: Waiting in the Wings? The Advent of a New Black Politician Waiting in the Wings? The Advent of a New Black Politician ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3252 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 25, 2004 at 16:28:49 Subject: Waiting in the Wings? The Advent of a New Black Politician Waiting in the Wings? The Advent of a New Black Politician ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3253 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 25, 2004 at 17:10:16 Subject: Re: Let me take a wild guess : : : : : : Welcome to the Message Board. : : : : : : : : : : The parade have been ran by comcast for many years now Jersey City have its own channel which is chanel 1, George Wilson : : : : : wants Diane Morgan to do the T.V. station so that she can advertise for the Degise Team maybe he thinks that he's going to get a job, wrong buddy they don't respect you Mr. George Wilson: : : : : : Do your thing Viginia and Stan: Smile : : : : : : : : : Please english, not ebonics. : : : : : : : You got the message now did'nt you. : : Snyder High. Am I right? : Are you saying that Tom DeGise didn't do a good job as a teacher? No in the height, 28 school ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fatigued by Corrupt Politicians posted Message 3254 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 25, 2004 at 20:14:10 Subject: Scam parade? Or Scum on Parade? Perhaps the people of JC will get some sense and toss these idiots out on their rear ends in a year. Now lets see...when short-term memory Glenn retires from the state senate he will then be collecting how many pensions??? 1 - JCPD 2 - HC DOC 3 - US Marshal 4 - Mayor 5 - State Senate 6 - US Marines 7 - Court Jester? Not bad for a down-trodden african-american being held down by the 'man'. : Ha Ha Tom Avon Gaynor -- Face it Senator Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham is here to stay !!! : : If you want tosee who is on the city payroll. Come out and see the "Gofers" march with Cunningham.The call it the scam parade. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3255 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2004 at 07:32:30 Subject: March of the Clowns Did you see all those City workers for the Conman Marching Yesterday?What a funny sight.One more year to go to be free from this gang of Scam artist.When does the JCHA investigation Start? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lovely Rita posted Message 3256 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2004 at 07:42:39 Subject: Re: This is Pathetic : : : : : : : Welcome to the Message Board. : : : : : : : : : : : : The parade have been ran by comcast for many years now Jersey City have its own channel which is chanel 1, George Wilson : : : : : : wants Diane Morgan to do the T.V. station so that she can advertise for the Degise Team maybe he thinks that he's going to get a job, wrong buddy they don't respect you Mr. George Wilson: : : : : : : Do your thing Viginia and Stan: Smile : : : : : : : : : : : Please english, not ebonics. : : : : : : : : : You got the message now did'nt you. : : : Snyder High. Am I right? : : Are you saying that Tom DeGise didn't do a good job as a teacher? : : No in the height, 28 school ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3257 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2004 at 09:54:53 Subject: Re: March of the Clowns : Did you see all those City workers for the Conman Marching Yesterday?What a funny sight.One more year to go to be free from this gang of Scam artist.When does the JCHA investigation Start? What investigation are you talking about, nobody knows about no investigation for the JCHA / HHA be more clear, come clean maybe you want to share something: ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3258 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2004 at 10:46:55 Subject: Re: Scam parade? Or Scum on Parade? : Perhaps the people of JC will get some sense and toss these idiots out on their rear ends in a year. : Now lets see...when short-term memory Glenn retires from the state senate he will then be collecting how many pensions??? : 1 - JCPD : 2 - HC DOC : 3 - US Marshal : 4 - Mayor : 5 - State Senate : 6 - US Marines : 7 - Court Jester? : Not bad for a down-trodden african-american being held down by the 'man'. : : Ha Ha Tom Avon Gaynor -- Face it Senator Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham is here to stay !!! : : : : If you want to see who is on the city payroll. Come out and see the "Gofers" march with Cunningham.The call it the scam parade. Don't be so jealous, we know you want to be the like the Mayor / Senator ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3259 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2004 at 13:07:24 Subject: Public Hearing: problems faced by minority contractors in obtaining bonding P U B L I C H E A R I N G N O T I C E The Senate Labor Committee will hold a public hearing on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 at 6:00 PM at the Mary McLeod Bethune Community Center, 140 Martin Luther King, Jr. Drive, Jersey City, NJ. The public hearing will examine the problems faced by minority contractors in obtaining the bonding necessary to enable them to bid on certain public works projects. The hearing will also focus on the Bonding Assistance Program created by the New Jersey School Construction Corporation. Due to time constraints, persons wishing to testify should limit their comments to 5 minutes. This time limit will be strictly enforced. Those persons presenting written testimony should provide 15 copies to the committee at the hearing. All persons wishing to testify must CALL AND REGISTER with Dana A. Fraytak, Committee Aide, or Cristi J. Cameron, Secretary, at (609) 984-0445, fax (609)777-2998, or e-mail: OLSAide_SLA@njleg.org ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward D Cunningham Club posted Message 3260 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 26, 2004 at 19:59:46 Subject: Peter Baron and Dianna McKelvey For District 18 Democratic Committee Persons In the upcoming primary, voter for Peter Baron and Dianna McKelvey for District 18 Democratic Committee Persons. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3261 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2004 at 07:29:17 Subject: Jim King moved to second string Ron Buonocore is now the big player at the Parking Authority.What will Janiszewski say when he finds out what has happened to is "Gofer".Conman Cunningham better be careful.Will Bunonore picture go upon the billboard? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3262 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2004 at 14:20:46 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of April 26, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3263 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 27, 2004 at 22:41:19 Subject: Re: Jim King moved to second string : Ron Buonocore is now in the process of getting the big butterfly net and task force together. Gaynor will be back in padded cell soon. Please adjust meds. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3264 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 28, 2004 at 07:05:19 Subject: What will be todays Scam? What Land Scam does Conman Cunningham & Mark "Bad Deals"Munley have planned for today for the Jersey City taxpayers.I bet its a beaut. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gauguin posted Message 3265 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 28, 2004 at 09:31:02 Subject: Schundler running for Governor Here's the link http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/middlesex/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1083137649248290.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** Emma Rivera posted Message 3266 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 28, 2004 at 15:41:29 Subject: Re: CUNNINGHAM SCORES PIVOTAL VICTORY : CUNNINGHAM SCORES PIVOTAL VICTORY : ANOTHER BLOW TO HCDO, MENENDEZ!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** New Jersey Senate Democrats posted Message 3267 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 28, 2004 at 17:21:08 Subject: SENATE LABOR PANEL TO EXAMINE PROBLEMS FACED BY MINORITY CONTRACTORS FOR RELEASE: Immediate April 28, 2004 CONTACT: Senator Cunningham Tel: (201) 451-5100 **MEDIA ADVISORY** SENATE LABOR PANEL TO EXAMINE PROBLEMS FACED BY MINORITY CONTRACTORS TRENTON - The Senate Labor Committee will hold a public hearing TONIGHT AT 6 P.M., at the urging of Senator Glenn D. Cunningham, D-Hudson, Vice Chair of the Committee, to examine the problems faced by minority contractors in obtaining the necessary bonding to enable them to bid on certain public works projects. The Committee will also take testimony on the Bonding Assistance Program created by the New Jersey School Construction Corporation, and will consider whether legislative remedy is required to bring fairness to the bonding process for minority contractors. The hearing will be held at the Mary McLeod Bethune Community Center, 140 Martin Luther King, Jr. Drive, Jersey City. ### WHO: Senate Labor Committee Chair Stephen M. Sweeney, D-Gloucester, Cumberland and Salem, Labor Committee Vice Chair Glenn D. Cunningham, members of Senate Labor Committee. WHAT: Public Hearing on fairness of bonding process in public works projects for minority contractors. WHEN: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 at 6 P.M. WHERE: the Mary McLeod Bethune Community Center, 140 Martin Luther King, Jr. Drive, Jersey City - - - - FOR RELEASE: Immediate April 28, 2004 CONTACT: Jim Manion Tel: (609) 292-5215 CUNNINGHAM DETERMINED TO HELP WORKERS TRENTON - First-term Senator Glenn D. Cunningham Jr. today said he is determined to find ways to increase opportunities for minority workers on public and private contracts, particularly through the current State school construction program. "I sought a forum for my colleagues to listen to the men and women who are seeking work under plumbing, electrical and other construction-related contracts," said Senator Cunningham, Vice Chair of the Senate Labor Committee. "By defining the obstacles that are blocking these men and women from currently getting work, I am confident we will find ways to conquer those problems." The committee was scheduled to hold its first hearing this evening at the Mary McCleod Bethune Community Center, 140 Martin Luther King Boulevard in Jersey City starting at 6 p.m. A committee aide said late this afternoon that nearly two dozen people had signed up to testify before the committee. "I would like to commend Senator (Stephen M.) Sweeney (Committee Chairman) for scheduling this hearing in Jersey City," said Senator Cunningham, who also serves as the Mayor of Hudson County's capital city. "We're here to listen and Senator Sweeney was gracious in providing this opportunity." A second hearing to be held in South Jersey will be scheduled within the next several weeks, Senator Cunningham said. "The point, of course, is to expedite the awarding of contracts which provide work for people who are being passed over at the current time," Senator Cunningham said. In the past, State officials have said many minority businesses have been too small in composition to qualify for contracts under State bonding requirements. "After listening to the problems and the practices of the past, we should be able to focus on the legislation needed to eliminate these problems for minority workers," Senator Cunningham said. He said he supported the landmark New Jersey law adopted to authorize project labor agreements, but said at the time that he was concerned about its potential for blocking opportunities for minority workers. "These hearings, thanks to Senator Sweeney, reflect my efforts to follow up on that concern," Senator Cunningham said. # Jason Butkowski Communications Assistant New Jersey Senate Democratic Office P: (609) 292-5215 F: (609) 633-7254 ***************** End Of Article ****************** 49er Fan posted Message 3268 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 28, 2004 at 22:20:35 Subject: Re: A Question Does this mayor ever do anything for non-minorities. Everything is black,black black. : April 28, 2004 : CONTACT: Senator Cunningham : Tel: (201) 451-5100 : **MEDIA ADVISORY** : SENATE LABOR PANEL TO EXAMINE PROBLEMS FACED BY MINORITY CONTRACTORS : TRENTON - The Senate Labor Committee will hold a public hearing TONIGHT AT 6 P.M., at the urging of Senator Glenn D. Cunningham, D-Hudson, Vice Chair of the Committee, to examine the problems faced by minority contractors in obtaining the necessary bonding to enable them to bid on certain public works projects. : The Committee will also take testimony on the Bonding Assistance Program created by the New Jersey School Construction Corporation, and will consider whether legislative remedy is required to bring fairness to the bonding process for minority contractors. : The hearing will be held at the Mary McLeod Bethune Community Center, 140 Martin Luther King, Jr. Drive, Jersey City. : ### : WHO: Senate Labor Committee Chair Stephen M. Sweeney, D-Gloucester, Cumberland and Salem, Labor Committee Vice Chair Glenn D. Cunningham, members of Senate Labor Committee. : WHAT: Public Hearing on fairness of bonding process in public works projects for minority contractors. : WHEN: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 at 6 P.M. : WHERE: the Mary McLeod Bethune Community Center, 140 Martin Luther King, Jr. Drive, Jersey City : - - - - : FOR RELEASE: Immediate : April 28, 2004 : CONTACT: Jim Manion : Tel: (609) 292-5215 : CUNNINGHAM DETERMINED TO HELP WORKERS : TRENTON - First-term Senator Glenn D. Cunningham Jr. today said he is determined to find ways to increase opportunities for minority workers on public and private contracts, particularly through the current State school construction program. : "I sought a forum for my colleagues to listen to the men and women who are seeking work under plumbing, electrical and other construction-related contracts," said Senator Cunningham, Vice Chair of the Senate Labor Committee. "By defining the obstacles that are blocking these men and women from currently getting work, I am confident we will find ways to conquer those problems." : The committee was scheduled to hold its first hearing this evening at the Mary McCleod Bethune Community Center, 140 Martin Luther King Boulevard in Jersey City starting at 6 p.m. : A committee aide said late this afternoon that nearly two dozen people had signed up to testify before the committee. : "I would like to commend Senator (Stephen M.) Sweeney (Committee Chairman) for scheduling this hearing in Jersey City," said Senator Cunningham, who also serves as the Mayor of Hudson County's capital city. "We're here to listen and Senator Sweeney was gracious in providing this opportunity." : A second hearing to be held in South Jersey will be scheduled within the next several weeks, Senator Cunningham said. : "The point, of course, is to expedite the awarding of contracts which provide work for people who are being passed over at the current time," Senator Cunningham said. : In the past, State officials have said many minority businesses have been too small in composition to qualify for contracts under State bonding requirements. : "After listening to the problems and the practices of the past, we should be able to focus on the legislation needed to eliminate these problems for minority workers," Senator Cunningham said. : He said he supported the landmark New Jersey law adopted to authorize project labor agreements, but said at the time that he was concerned about its potential for blocking opportunities for minority workers. : "These hearings, thanks to Senator Sweeney, reflect my efforts to follow up on that concern," Senator Cunningham said. : # : Jason Butkowski : Communications Assistant : New Jersey Senate Democratic Office : P: (609) 292-5215 : F: (609) 633-7254 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Viola Richardson has no back-bone posted Message 3269 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 28, 2004 at 23:51:45 Subject: Jersey City I can't believe what I just saw. The ADP abatement extension was defeated by a 5 to 4 vote. Councilman Lipski who voted for it could be seen getting on a phone behind the council bench. A moment later someone summoned Viola Richardson to the Mayor's office. % minutes later she emerged to tell the Clerk she was changing her vote and was now in favor of the abatement. It passed! I've never seen anything like this in my life. She folded like a K-Mart tent. The man (Cunningham) who was against abatements is now breaking arms to extend them. Viola, you a punk girl. ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3270 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 29, 2004 at 08:10:10 Subject: Re: A Question : Does this mayor ever do anything for non-minorities. Everything is black,black black. : : April 28, 2004 : : CONTACT: Senator Cunningham : : Tel: (201) 451-5100 : : **MEDIA ADVISORY** : : SENATE LABOR PANEL TO EXAMINE PROBLEMS FACED BY MINORITY CONTRACTORS : : TRENTON - The Senate Labor Committee will hold a public hearing TONIGHT AT 6 P.M., at the urging of Senator Glenn D. Cunningham, D-Hudson, Vice Chair of the Committee, to examine the problems faced by minority contractors in obtaining the necessary bonding to enable them to bid on certain public works projects. : : The Committee will also take testimony on the Bonding Assistance Program created by the New Jersey School Construction Corporation, and will consider whether legislative remedy is required to bring fairness to the bonding process for minority contractors. : : The hearing will be held at the Mary McLeod Bethune Community Center, 140 Martin Luther King, Jr. Drive, Jersey City. : : ### : : WHO: Senate Labor Committee Chair Stephen M. Sweeney, D-Gloucester, Cumberland and Salem, Labor Committee Vice Chair Glenn D. Cunningham, members of Senate Labor Committee. : : WHAT: Public Hearing on fairness of bonding process in public works projects for minority contractors. : : WHEN: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 at 6 P.M. : : WHERE: the Mary McLeod Bethune Community Center, 140 Martin Luther King, Jr. Drive, Jersey City : : - - - - : : FOR RELEASE: Immediate : : April 28, 2004 : : CONTACT: Jim Manion : : Tel: (609) 292-5215 : : CUNNINGHAM DETERMINED TO HELP WORKERS : : TRENTON - First-term Senator Glenn D. Cunningham Jr. today said he is determined to find ways to increase opportunities for minority workers on public and private contracts, particularly through the current State school construction program. : : "I sought a forum for my colleagues to listen to the men and women who are seeking work under plumbing, electrical and other construction-related contracts," said Senator Cunningham, Vice Chair of the Senate Labor Committee. "By defining the obstacles that are blocking these men and women from currently getting work, I am confident we will find ways to conquer those problems." : : The committee was scheduled to hold its first hearing this evening at the Mary McCleod Bethune Community Center, 140 Martin Luther King Boulevard in Jersey City starting at 6 p.m. : : A committee aide said late this afternoon that nearly two dozen people had signed up to testify before the committee. : : "I would like to commend Senator (Stephen M.) Sweeney (Committee Chairman) for scheduling this hearing in Jersey City," said Senator Cunningham, who also serves as the Mayor of Hudson County's capital city. "We're here to listen and Senator Sweeney was gracious in providing this opportunity." : : A second hearing to be held in South Jersey will be scheduled within the next several weeks, Senator Cunningham said. : : "The point, of course, is to expedite the awarding of contracts which provide work for people who are being passed over at the current time," Senator Cunningham said. : : In the past, State officials have said many minority businesses have been too small in composition to qualify for contracts under State bonding requirements. : : "After listening to the problems and the practices of the past, we should be able to focus on the legislation needed to eliminate these problems for minority workers," Senator Cunningham said. : : He said he supported the landmark New Jersey law adopted to authorize project labor agreements, but said at the time that he was concerned about its potential for blocking opportunities for minority workers. : : "These hearings, thanks to Senator Sweeney, reflect my efforts to follow up on that concern," Senator Cunningham said. : : # : : Jason Butkowski : : Communications Assistant : : New Jersey Senate Democratic Office : : P: (609) 292-5215 : : F: (609) 633-7254 You have a lot of nerve to say something like that for many years its been white, white, white its about time we have somebody like the Mayor/Senator that looks out for the minority you sound like you are a racist: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sounded Very Racist posted Message 3271 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 29, 2004 at 10:10:23 Subject: I Agree : : Does this mayor ever do anything for non-minorities. Everything is black,black black. : : You have a lot of nerve to say something like that : for many years its been white, white, white its about time we : have somebody like the Mayor/Senator that looks out for the minority you sound like you are a racist: I agree this poster sounds very racist. Take a drive down MLK - the area has been neglected for years. It is about time someone did SOMETHING about it. Thank You Senator Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3272 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 30, 2004 at 06:38:14 Subject: Re: What will be todays Scam? : What Scam does Tom Gaynor have planned for today.I bet its a beaut. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3273 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 30, 2004 at 08:14:18 Subject: Conmans Crime Plan? I see cunninghams crime plan is really working in JC,Joke,Get It?Please come back to JC , Tom & Nancy Gaynor.We need you badly in Ward C and therest of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Burgerguy posted Message 3274 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 30, 2004 at 16:13:05 Subject: Viola Richardson Viola you got b1tch slapped girl! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cuz she is Cunninghams butt girl posted Message 3275 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 30, 2004 at 17:23:48 Subject: 'NO' TURNS TO 'YES' 'NO' TURNS TO 'YES' Abatement extension squeaks through after councilwoman changes her vote The Jersey City City Council narrowly approved the controversial extension of a tax abatement for a Journal Square developer after Councilwoman Viola Richardson switched her vote just before the final tally was called, turning a 4-5 defeat for the measure into a 5-4 approval. After hours of impassioned pleas from residents to deny the 10-year extension to 2 Journal Square - and calls from area business leaders to grant it - the council Wednesday night appeared to defeat the ordinance granting the extension. But after Councilman Mariano Vega cast the fifth and decisive vote to defeat the ordinance, Richardson left the council chambers to confer with her colleague, Steve Lipski of Journal Square - who voted in favor of the ordinance - and then came back to the dais and asked City Clerk Robert Byrne to change her vote from no to yes. That switch swung the vote back in the other direction, granting the abatement extension and eliciting shock from many in the chambers. "This was not an easy decision," Richardson said during a break just after the vote. "It's definitely something that Steve wanted, and it's his ward." Lipski said he was surprised by Richardson's initial no vote and said he made a call on his cell phone while the vote was in progress to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, with whom both he and Richardson are politically aligned, to ask for the mayor's help in persuading her. "I asked Viola if she would support (the extension)," Lipski said. "I called the mayor, but I didn't get him, I got (Deputy Mayor) Gene Drayton and I asked could (the mayor) talk to her." Richardson said after the vote that Cunningham did not pressure her to vote one way or the other, and that she was mostly persuaded by her colleagues who supported the measure. A spokesman for Cunningham, Stan H. Eason, said the mayor was concerned that if the abatement was not extended the building's flagship tenant, Automatic Data Processing, or ADP - would move, which the company had in fact threatened to do, taking its 700 employees with it. "There were a lot of painstaking decisions made," Eason said of the vote. "We are concerned that 700 jobs would be lost." Many opponents of the abatement at Wednesday night's meeting countered that ADP had effectively blackmailed the city by saying it would leave if the tax break was not given. The extension allows the building owner - a consortium of local developers, including Joseph Panepinto, called PHM Urban Renewal Associates - to continue making payments in lieu of real estate taxes for another 10 years, adding on to the original 15-year abatement it received when it was built. Instead of real estate taxes, PHM will pay 16 percent of its annual revenue directly to the city for the next five years and then 17 percent after that, amounts that the company estimates will be $782,000 and $850,000, respectively. Because PHM has been back on the tax rolls since its first abatement ran out in March 2003, it will get a credit of about $800,000, which will be deducted from its annual payment in 2008. Panepinto argued that without the extension he would have to raise the rent on ADP, driving it out of the area. "Journal Square is hurting," Panepinto said after the vote. "Journal Square needs this." Panepinto, as well as several local business owners, said the 700 employees are vital to the economy of the troubled commercial area. Don Smartt, administrator of the Journal Square Special Improvement District, produced a list of figures assessing what the financial impact would be of losing the company. Smartt said the state Division of Commerce estimates that employees spend roughly $10 a day in the district in which they work, which comes out to more than $1 million a year for ADP. But council members and residents opposed to the extension said that with their own cafeteria and employee parking lot, ADP employees don't have all that great an impact on local businesses. "There might be 600 people working there, but very few of them utilize the services of the local merchants," said Councilman Junior Maldonado, who voted against the extension. Besides, many argued, Panepinto and his company should have to contend with the vagaries of the marketplace without asking for government help. Anthony Cucci, a former mayor and member of the school board, accused the city of being cowed by Panepinto and ADP. "I call it economic intimidation when you threaten to pick up and leave," he said. "I say to the developer: 'Pick your shovel and leave. Who cares?'" Yvonne Blacer, a Downtown resident and frequent critic of tax abatements, characterized the deal as an example of "pay-to-play" and displayed charts showing contributions that Panepinto - a former chairman of the Hudson County Democratic Organization - has made over the years to various political action committees associated with the party. Panepinto denied there was any quid pro quo involved in the abatement. Mia Scanga, another Downtown resident who opposes abatements, said the city was setting one standard for the average citizen or business owner and another for the wealthy. "We're asking everyone to pay their fair share," she said. "(Abatements) all come on the backs of one-to four-family homeowners." Opponents argue that because abated properties are off the city tax rolls, the burden shifts to homeowners who pay real estate taxes. But several also pointed to what they saw as the squalor of Journal Square in arguing that any incentive that would keep a business like ADP is worth it. "The ADP building is one of the cleanest buildings in Journal Square," said Lipski, who voted for the extension along with Richardson, council members Mary Donnelly and Jerramiah Healy and Council President L. Harvey Smith. Voting against the ordinance were Maldonado, Vega, Peter Brennan and William Gaughan. Panepinto also said that he will now contribute $50,000 to the restoration of the Loew's Jersey Theater, $50,000 to the rehabilitation of the historic Apple Tree House and $25,000 to Speer Cemetery on Vroom Street. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3276 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 30, 2004 at 18:55:33 Subject: Re: Gaynors Mime Plan? : I see Gaynors mime plan is really working in JC,Joke,Get It?Please don't come back to JC , Tom Gaynor.We don't need you that badly in Ward C and therest of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sam posted Message 3277 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2004 at 00:20:47 Subject: Time for a Second American Revolution? Although I have voted for Republican candidates in every Presidential and Congressional Election since casting my first vote in 1980, I have lost complete confidence in the Republican Party. This is disheartening, because I have never had any faith in the Democratic Party. Citizens need to start connecting the dots to realize that the Bush Administration’s favor to Corporate America by dismantling regulations is resulting in an oligopolistic economy, which is never good for consumers. The reason we have not had an oligopolistic economy since the 1920s is because laws were passed after the Great Depression that reigned in the greed of corporate giants through regulations. Since most of these laws have been repealed, or have not been enforced during the past few years, the economy of 2004 is strikingly similar to that of the 1920s. Subsequently, consumers are paying the cost. Consider the recent surge in gas prices. Until a couple of years ago, consumers could choose to buy gas from Exxon, Conoco, Shell, Mobil, Valero, Phillips, Texaco, or Diamond Shamrock. Today, our choices are Exxon/Mobil, Conoco/Phillips, Shell/Texaco and Valero/Diamond Shamrock. Have you noticed recently that Shell Gas Stations are as ubiquitous as Starbucks? These mega-corporations find it a lot easier to fix prices among themselves and keep prices artificially inflated, because there just is not enough competition. While consumers on average are paying the highest prices for gas in history, which increased by $0.30 per gallon during the five months preceding April, 2004, corporations like Exxon/Mobil are enjoying record profits. Also, think about the last time you phoned a software company for “customer service.” It would be impressive if you had even been able to track down a phone number and interesting to consider how much you were charged to have your question answered. Even if you paid the fee to find out how to make the software you purchased run properly and then discovered it was worthless, chances are you were stuck with it since refunds are not “offered” for software. On the other hand, you probably were provided the option of risking $99 to upgrade your software to the latest version, which hopefully fixed the bugs in the software you already bought. What is even more appalling are practices by the huge banks that dominate our economy. It is not unusual for a customer to discover that the interest rate on his/her credit card has tripled after another creditor reports a late payment. What is beyond aggravating is the fact that often late payments are not the customer’s fault but the bank’s. Amazingly, some jumbo-banks are being sued for withholding payments until after due dates in order to impose late fees and to increase interest rates to ridiculous levels. Health care provider corporations have also discovered that they can milk consumers by incessantly increasing premiums at the beginning of every renewal period. The few corporations that dominate the Health Care Sector understand completely that consumers have little recourse against exorbitant premium increases. While some consumers find temporary relief by switching among these providers, their premiums quickly return to absurd levels after the introductory period. Lastly, reflect on people you know who work for these huge conglomerates, who are not top executives. I doubt that they have received a decent raise in five years. Actually, I would be willing to bet that they have lost many of the benefits they once enjoyed. Meanwhile, the CEOs, CFOs, COOs and other executives in their respective companies are probably enjoying fabulously wealthy lifestyles. Even former executives of bankrupt corporations who bilked investors out of billions of dollars continue to live like royalty, while many former retirees return to work at fast food restaurants after having lost their retirement funds. Even if you discount the blatant greed, total disregard for consumer satisfaction, stagnant product innovation, or the treatment of employees as a commodities, every Tax-Payer has to be infuriated by the corporate welfare and preferential treatment received by oligopolies from the current federal government. Aside from Halliburton’s free lunch in Iraq, hopefully American Tax-Payers remember how the Airlines “cried poor” and threatened bankruptcy after 9/11 so that the Bush Administration and Congress would give them billions of dollars of Tax-Payer money. In case you forgot, after receiving this generous Tax-Payer funded gift, top executives at the Airlines kept their huge salaries, bonuses and stock options while laying off record numbers of employees. Ironically, taxes paid by these laid off workers had been used to subsidize their former bosses’ marvelous lifestyles and their own meager unemployment benefits. As an illustration of the favoritism bestowed upon large corporations, consider an e-mail from the Small Business Administration (SBA) that was sent out on April 2, 2004. Basically, the e-mail proclaimed that the Bush Administration is allowing large businesses to reclassify themselves in order to bid on insignificant contracts that have previously been reserved for small businesses. The SBA’s e-mail ended with the following summary: What does this mean to your company? You may be able to change the status of your company from a Large Business to a Small Business and meet requirements for bidding on set aside contracts from the government. The bureaucrats in Congress have made it fairly clear that they do not mind the status quo. This is understandable since their salaries put them in the top 5% of American wage earners and they receive benefits of which most of us can only dream. Some of these benefits are: the best health insurance in the country; excellent life insurance policies; pension plans that are truly enviable, with many bureaucrats being entitled to over $1,000,000 (that’s one million dollars) after retiring; chauffeured limousine service for top ranking Congressional Leaders and free prime reserved parking spaces for all other Congressional Members; free air travel; a state-of-the-art Private Congressional Health Club for exclusive use of bureaucrats; on-call, salaried hair stylists, manicurists and shoe-shiners; free child care centers on Congressional premises; a remarkable Congressional Credit union (a 6.35% Certificate of Deposit Yield on a 1-Year Account with a $500 minimum, the lowest interest rates in the country for auto loans and credit cards); free postage; an automatic pay raise every year; and last but not least, a $3,000 annual income tax deduction that is only given to Congressional bureaucrats. Had the size of our government been reduced under the Bush Administration and current Republican dominated Congress, I would be willing to cut the Republican Party some slack; however, the federal government’s budget has ballooned over 25% just during the past year. If you are thinking that “Protecting the Homeland” and “Winning the War on Terrorism Abroad” initiatives are largely responsible for this increase, think again - these programs only account for about 1% of that increase. Even the cost of the war in Iraq is accountable for only about 5% of the aforementioned increase. This is all new spending that will expand the federal bureaucracy. If you vote for Bush, greedy corporations are going to continue to find every possible means to increase profits at your expense and the size of government will continue to grow at an evermore alarming rate. Kerry on the other hand, is not the least concerned about protecting consumers, because he is too busy dreaming up socialistic ideals that would be unbelievably expensive (e.g., paying for everyone’s college education, national health care). In order for Kerry to finance his dream of socialism, new forms of taxation would have to be devised in addition to those that Americans already pay, which include: ad valorem taxes on real property, ad valorem taxes on tangible personal property, ad valorem taxes on intangible personal property, ad valorem taxes on inheritance, ad valorem taxes on estates, sales and use taxes, occupational taxes, business license taxes, regulatory taxes, personal income taxes, railroad retirement taxes, unemployment insurance taxes, social security taxes, gift taxes, corporate income taxes, consumer use taxes, municipal sales taxes, township sales taxes, county sales taxes, state sales taxes, regional district transportation taxes, scientific and cultural facilities district taxes, natural resources taxes, fire protection taxes, housing and community development taxes, water district taxes, school district taxes, gasoline taxes, small cigar taxes, large cigar taxes, cigarette taxes, pipe tobacco taxes, distilled spirits taxes, still wine taxes, beer taxes, highway tire taxes, truck sales taxes, firearms taxes, firearm shell taxes, firearm cartridges taxes, pistols and revolvers taxes, bows and arrows taxes, gas guzzler taxes, general telephone service taxes, toll telephone service taxes, transportation of persons by air taxes, international departure ticket taxes, air freight taxes, wagers taxes, occupation of accepting wagers taxes, foreign life insurance policies taxes, foreign non-life insurance policies taxes, coal sales taxes, environmental “super-fund” crude oil excise taxes, environmental “super-fund” chemical excise taxes, jewelry taxes, furs taxes, diesel fuel for highway vehicles taxes, gasoline substitute fuels for highway vehicles and motor boats taxes, gasoline used in noncommercial aviation taxes, noncommercial aviation fuel other than gasoline taxes, Inland waterways users' fuel, Gasohol taxes. The number and amount of taxes that Americans tolerate is amazing if one considers how they absolutely dwarf those tolerated by colonists who were provoked by the Tea Act in 1773. Contemporary American Tax-Payers should seriously consider the conviction of the Boston Tea Party Protesters who were fed up with the arrogance of a self-serving bureaucracy that relied upon huge corporations for its own survival. Americans need to regain control of Their government in order to populate it with representatives who are willing to stand for Our best interests instead of their own self-interests. In order to accomplish this goal, Americans will have to vote against every incumbent, and as unpalatable as this may be, vote for Ralph Nader. Even though I never in my life thought I would say “vote for Ralph Nader,” he is the least smelly of the crap sandwiches on the menu this election year. Although it will be a bitter pill to swallow, desperate times call for drastic measures and perhaps a President Nader in 2004 will shock bureaucrats into realizing that Americans are fed up…period. The only Americans who will be wasting their votes this next election are those voting for George W. Bush, John F. Kerry and any incumbent congressional representative. Contrary to what anyone may say, there is a better government than the current American government, which is the Democratic Republic established by America’s Founders. Why is this not signed? Three weeks after sending a copy of this open letter to several Senators, I received an inquisitive letter from the IRS. It is personally sickening that as an American Citizen, I feel threatened by publicly criticizing my government. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerseycitynow posted Message 3278 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2004 at 02:00:32 Subject: NEW JC Website hey all: we have started to setup a city portal strictly about JC, so we wanted to know what you would like on the website. please take the time out of your day to do this survey. offer as many suggestions as come to mind. thanks, jcnow team www.sondageonline.be/deploy/form_deploy1.php?form_id=930 password: jcnow ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3279 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2004 at 05:23:15 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3280 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2004 at 05:27:26 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3281 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2004 at 06:48:39 Subject: Re: 'NO' TURNS TO 'YES' : : : : 'NO' TURNS TO 'YES' : Abatement extension squeaks through after councilwoman changes her vote : The Jersey City City Council narrowly approved the controversial extension of a tax abatement for a Journal Square developer after Councilwoman Viola Richardson switched her vote just before the final tally was called, turning a 4-5 defeat for the measure into a 5-4 approval. : After hours of impassioned pleas from residents to deny the 10-year extension to 2 Journal Square - and calls from area business leaders to grant it - the council Wednesday night appeared to defeat the ordinance granting the extension. : But after Councilman Mariano Vega cast the fifth and decisive vote to defeat the ordinance, Richardson left the council chambers to confer with her colleague, Steve Lipski of Journal Square - who voted in favor of the ordinance - and then came back to the dais and asked City Clerk Robert Byrne to change her vote from no to yes. : That switch swung the vote back in the other direction, granting the abatement extension and eliciting shock from many in the chambers. : "This was not an easy decision," Richardson said during a break just after the vote. "It's definitely something that Steve wanted, and it's his ward." : Lipski said he was surprised by Richardson's initial no vote and said he made a call on his cell phone while the vote was in progress to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, with whom both he and Richardson are politically aligned, to ask for the mayor's help in persuading her. : "I asked Viola if she would support (the extension)," Lipski said. "I called the mayor, but I didn't get him, I got (Deputy Mayor) Gene Drayton and I asked could (the mayor) talk to her." : Richardson said after the vote that Cunningham did not pressure her to vote one way or the other, and that she was mostly persuaded by her colleagues who supported the measure. : A spokesman for Cunningham, Stan H. Eason, said the mayor was concerned that if the abatement was not extended the building's flagship tenant, Automatic Data Processing, or ADP - would move, which the company had in fact threatened to do, taking its 700 employees with it. : "There were a lot of painstaking decisions made," Eason said of the vote. "We are concerned that 700 jobs would be lost." : Many opponents of the abatement at Wednesday night's meeting countered that ADP had effectively blackmailed the city by saying it would leave if the tax break was not given. : The extension allows the building owner - a consortium of local developers, including Joseph Panepinto, called PHM Urban Renewal Associates - to continue making payments in lieu of real estate taxes for another 10 years, adding on to the original 15-year abatement it received when it was built. : Instead of real estate taxes, PHM will pay 16 percent of its annual revenue directly to the city for the next five years and then 17 percent after that, amounts that the company estimates will be $782,000 and $850,000, respectively. Because PHM has been back on the tax rolls since its first abatement ran out in March 2003, it will get a credit of about $800,000, which will be deducted from its annual payment in 2008. : Panepinto argued that without the extension he would have to raise the rent on ADP, driving it out of the area. : "Journal Square is hurting," Panepinto said after the vote. "Journal Square needs this." : Panepinto, as well as several local business owners, said the 700 employees are vital to the economy of the troubled commercial area. Don Smartt, administrator of the Journal Square Special Improvement District, produced a list of figures assessing what the financial impact would be of losing the company. : Smartt said the state Division of Commerce estimates that employees spend roughly $10 a day in the district in which they work, which comes out to more than $1 million a year for ADP. : But council members and residents opposed to the extension said that with their own cafeteria and employee parking lot, ADP employees don't have all that great an impact on local businesses. : "There might be 600 people working there, but very few of them utilize the services of the local merchants," said Councilman Junior Maldonado, who voted against the extension. : Besides, many argued, Panepinto and his company should have to contend with the vagaries of the marketplace without asking for government help. : Anthony Cucci, a former mayor and member of the school board, accused the city of being cowed by Panepinto and ADP. : "I call it economic intimidation when you threaten to pick up and leave," he said. "I say to the developer: 'Pick your shovel and leave. Who cares?'" : Yvonne Blacer, a Downtown resident and frequent critic of tax abatements, characterized the deal as an example of "pay-to-play" and displayed charts showing contributions that Panepinto - a former chairman of the Hudson County Democratic Organization - has made over the years to various political action committees associated with the party. : Panepinto denied there was any quid pro quo involved in the abatement. : Mia Scanga, another Downtown resident who opposes abatements, said the city was setting one standard for the average citizen or business owner and another for the wealthy. : "We're asking everyone to pay their fair share," she said. "(Abatements) all come on the backs of one-to four-family homeowners." : Opponents argue that because abated properties are off the city tax rolls, the burden shifts to homeowners who pay real estate taxes. : But several also pointed to what they saw as the squalor of Journal Square in arguing that any incentive that would keep a business like ADP is worth it. : "The ADP building is one of the cleanest buildings in Journal Square," said Lipski, who voted for the extension along with Richardson, council members Mary Donnelly and Jerramiah Healy and Council President L. Harvey Smith. : Voting against the ordinance were Maldonado, Vega, Peter Brennan and William Gaughan. : Panepinto also said that he will now contribute $50,000 to the restoration of the Loew's Jersey Theater, $50,000 to the rehabilitation of the historic Apple Tree House and $25,000 to Speer Cemetery on Vroom Street. : We must do whats right for the people, just think 700 people out of jobs that would be horrible, those councilmen that voted aganist it give up some of your jobs for the people: : ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3282 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2004 at 06:51:32 Subject: Re: Viola Richardson : Viola you got b1tch slapped girl! Viola you did the right thing for the people and you should be very proud of yourself. I can't beleive those that voted against this what about the 700 people that would have been out of jobs that would have been terrible: ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3283 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2004 at 09:17:17 Subject: Poor Financial Planning for JC Poor Land Deals scams by By Mark "BAD Deals "Munley for tne benefit of the Conmans Inside Boys are killing JC Tax Base.Cunningham have you no shame or honor,that you cant to the right thing for the Taxpayers of this once great City.You have sold your soul to the Devil. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3284 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2004 at 11:51:49 Subject: Re: Poor Financial Planning for JC : Big Joke Deals scams by By Tom "Big Jokes "Gaynor for tne benefit of No One. Gaynor is killing JC with his dribble.Gaynor have you no shame or honor,that you cant to the right thing for the Citzenry of this once great City.You have sold your soul to Avon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandy Whipped posted Message 3285 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 01, 2004 at 22:55:12 Subject: Those Powerful Black Women Thursday nite we had another example of powerful Jersey City black women in action. Willie Flood stood up proudly at the Board of Ed meeting and demanded respect. Ha !!! Willie Flood is a laughable figure. For years she has fed at the public trough, kissing the behind of whoever was paying her salary. In every job she held, she served with little or no distinction. The only passion she showed was when she felt she was not getting enough pork for herself, her husband or a family member. It is not an uncommon sight to see Willie dozing off at Board of Ed meetings. She is simply a poorly educated and witless person. For this reason, she fits in well in the pantheon of black women in the Cunningham Administration. Stalwarts such as Viola Richardson, Cynthia Jackson and of course the lovely Sandy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Plain Label posted Message 3286 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2004 at 05:05:23 Subject: Those Powerful Black Women Thursday nite we had another example of powerful Jersey City black women in action. Willie Flood stood up proudly at the Board of Ed meeting and demanded respect. Ha !!! Willie Flood is a laughable figure. For years she has fed at the public trough, kissing the behind of whoever was paying her salary. In every job she held, she served with little or no distinction. The only passion she showed was when she felt she was not getting enough pork for herself, her husband or a family member. It is not an uncommon sight to see Willie dozing off at Board of Ed meetings. She is simply a poorly educated and witless person. For this reason, she fits in well in the pantheon of black women in the Cunningham Administration. Stalwarts such as Viola Richardson, Cynthia Jackson and of course the lovely Sandy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3287 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2004 at 11:19:16 Subject: Jedsey DiMatteo for Mayor in 2005 Tom Gaynor is not the one,its Jed who can do the jobof Mayor for jersey City.Gaynor can keep a eye on Conman and his gang so they dont try to come back with their scams.No more "bad Land Deals" by Munley for the inside boys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val aint a Gal posted Message 3288 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2004 at 19:25:00 Subject: Re: Jedsey DiMatteo for Mayor in 2005 : Tom Gaynor is a nut,its Jed who can do the jobof Mayor for jersey City.Gaynor can keep a eye on the Sandman and his gang so Gaynor dont try to come back with more stupid posts.No more "big Joke Deals" by Gaynor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO posted Message 3289 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2004 at 22:06:48 Subject: Feeling lonely? You shouldn't be! There are 3 users Online here RIGHT NOW! : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** I peeked in posted Message 3290 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 02, 2004 at 22:32:11 Subject: Re: Feeling lonely? You shouldn't be! There are now 4 users Online here RIGHT NOW! : : ) :: ;) ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3291 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 07:36:53 Subject: I will stick with Tom Gaynor I like Jedsey a lot but i will stick with Tom Gaynor for Mayor in 2005 in JC.He knows all about the "Bad land deals" that are going on that are hurting the traxpayers of jersey City for the good of the inside boys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3292 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 08:32:00 Subject: Jersey City Reporter > Between the lines > The not so invisible Sires Jersey City Reporter, May 2, 2004 Between the lines: The not so invisible Sires Repeat after me: Albio Sires is not missing. Since the trial of developer Rene Abreu, the rumor mill has been active in predicting Sires' demise. Federal courts apparently leaked Sires' name to both the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Newark Star-Ledger, causing a spurt of rumors suggesting everything from Sires resigning his Assembly seat to his becoming a confidential source in the investigation. One Republican-leaning television station has been churning out the rumors after Sires declined to give an interview. The station, taking its cue from the August 2001 disappearance of then County Executive Robert Janiszewski, claimed Sires had vanished. (Unlikely, since he gave an in-person interview to one of our reporters on Wednesday.) . . . (To read the complete article, please click on the Link below.) Anybody know what TV station this is supposed to be? I guess I must have been excommunicated from the vast Right wing conspiracy, 'cause I wasn't cued-in about it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** DoctorConfused posted Message 3293 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 09:18:04 Subject: Peace at any cost? Let me get this straight.Buddy Demellier wants to make peace with the "Conman" and his gang to help Kerry become President.How does that help Jersey City become free of Scams And Corruption. Will our streets be cleaner and will there be less crime?I think not.In order for Jeresey City to be a better place for our Children we must be Cunningham free in 2005.Only "Total" Victory over this gang,will give us "Total"peace. Get It? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chuck O'tiedye posted Message 3294 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 09:39:03 Subject: Does Kennelly still write the Reporter Political Column? Inquiring minds want to know! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3295 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 11:29:01 Subject: NO !!!! NO ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another DeGise Flunkie posted Message 3296 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 11:45:57 Subject: Kennelly = Chakotay Kennelly = Chakotay = DePuppet's Flunkie - What else is new ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** LULU posted Message 3297 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 11:52:23 Subject: pEACE FOR WHAT? Do you mean peace to continue with business as usual, corruption, scandals, abused of tax payers dollars? THAT IS NOT PEACE ON MY BOOK ***************** End Of Article ****************** speakforamerica posted Message 3298 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 14:16:00 Subject: Crooked politicians! Speak your mind freely at www.speakforamerica.org! Find out why our politicians are so crooked and corrupt! www.speakforamerica.org ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3299 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 14:46:23 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bill Russel posted Message 3300 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 16:49:53 Subject: YaBB Forum There's a vulnerability in non-SQL version of YaBB forum (I've checked it with YaBB 1 Gold - SP 1.2 written in Perl -- it's not new, but is in use even nowadays). You can input almost anything into .txt file from boards directory. The "subject" form field isn't checked for "\n" symbols, so creating of a thread with such subject: "test of vulnerability" will add to the current board .txt file these strings ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3301 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 17:18:51 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3302 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 17:38:18 Subject: Re: I will stick with Tom Gaynor Of course Tom.U r the only one who wuld stick with u. Someone get the cheif and the butterfly net. We got Gaynor cornerd. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 3303 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 17:39:25 Subject: Re: NO !!!! : NO :: No matter, I still like ya' ;-) ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3304 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 18:03:35 Subject: Do Google search using the name "McGreevey" and see what you get! I'm #3 -- does that mean that I don't try at all!?! ***************** End Of Article ****************** It's worse than that! posted Message 3305 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 18:14:35 Subject: Re: Do Google search using the name "McGreevey" and see what you get! Ubie, Count again! You were #5. Kick back baby & have another brewski. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LordBaltimore posted Message 3306 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 18:23:46 Subject: Cunningham and Finances Can Jersey City survive this guys Math.I think not.Lets put some more ads in UTN,inorder to keep them in thb e back. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3307 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 19:26:28 Subject: Re: Do Google search using the name "McGreevey" and see what you get! : Ubie, Count again! You were #5. Kick back baby & have another brewski. Y'er sorta correct, but completely wrong! UBERHIPPY's www.MissJerseyCity.com is #4, but #3 is a UBERHIPPY Production, too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3308 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 20:48:43 Subject: Re: NO !!!! Thank you Blind dahling. BTW, isn't it fun that the boobs still think I'm Kennelly ? : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie, doobie, doo posted Message 3309 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 21:52:36 Subject: Re: Do Google search using the name "McGreevey" and see what you get! : : Ubie, Count again! You were #5. Kick back baby & have another brewski. : Y'er sorta correct, but completely wrong! UBERHIPPY's www.MissJerseyCity.com is #4, but #3 is a UBERHIPPY Production, too. : You're right! Now stop monopolizing the list! ;) ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 3310 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 21:55:00 Subject: Re: NO !!!! : My boobs don't think you're Kennelly! In fact, they don't think! Coffee soon, sweetie. : Thank you Blind dahling. : BTW, isn't it fun that the boobs still think I'm Kennelly ? : : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tallgrasse posted Message 3311 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 03, 2004 at 22:57:26 Subject: Re: NO !!!! Hmmm you two, this sounding a bit naughty .....my halo is now dented! ;o) ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3312 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 04, 2004 at 07:26:12 Subject: Cunninghams Directors-Poor Choices Why do you think the Conman picked these people to be Jersey City Directors ?It is certainly no because they are qualified.Could it be to follow out his Scams, like "Bad Deals"Munley. Speaking of scams , how is everything at the JCHA going? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3313 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 04, 2004 at 08:01:57 Subject: Re: Gaynor-Poor Choices : Why do you think Tom Gaynor picks on these people who are Jersey City Directors ?It is certainly because he has no life and iz not qualified.Could it be to bore us with his drivel, like hiz nickname sayz "Big Jokez"Gaynor. Speaking of jokes , how is everything in Avon going? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chivas posted Message 3314 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 04, 2004 at 09:13:50 Subject: Kerry Can't Win Without Menendez! I see before me in black and white that Fulop must throw in the towel so that Congressman Robert Menendez can go on the road again for Kerry. That only with Menendez clearing the brush on the campaign trail can Kerry make any headway. Sounds good to me. After all, look what a big help Congressman Bob was to Dean of Vermont! HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It wouldn't be that this is Congressman Bob's big chance to push for the No. 2 spot, would it? That couldn't be it as I'm sure that Robert Menendez does not have a selfish or otherwise self-serving knot of cartilage in his entire body. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poll Shows Bob is Hated posted Message 3315 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 04, 2004 at 09:40:03 Subject: Menendez Poll #'s Terrible Private Polling Data has revealed that Congressman Menendez's Polling Numbers are Very Low. Boss Menendez has a HIGH NEGATIVE amongst all voters polled. Because of this look for Menendez to play Low Key on the campaign - Pushing the "Column A" mantra instead of the name Menendez. Good to see the voters know what this HCDO creep is all about. : I see before me in black and white that Fulop must throw in the towel so that Congressman Robert Menendez can go on the road again for Kerry. That only with Menendez clearing the brush on the campaign trail can Kerry make any headway. : Sounds good to me. After all, look what a big help Congressman Bob was to Dean of Vermont! : HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : It wouldn't be that this is Congressman Bob's big chance to push for the No. 2 spot, would it? That couldn't be it as I'm sure that Robert Menendez does not have a selfish or otherwise self-serving knot of cartilage in his entire body. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3316 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 04, 2004 at 14:12:10 Subject: Pat O'Melia Interviews Steven Fulop -- Democratic Primary Challenger to Robert Menendez in the 13th Congressional District Pat O'Melia interviews Steven Fulop -- Democratic primary challenger to Robert Menendez in the 13th Congressional District -- on Hudson County's Talking Radio Show. To access the Online audio, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** tony posted Message 3317 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 05, 2004 at 04:04:02 Subject: Re: Gaynor's Pond Scum : : I was right when i said the Bond Deal by Cunningham was a scam on the Taxpayers of Jersey City.It would have cost the Taxpayers million s of Dollars over the life of the Bond Deal.Congrats,to most of the council people for doing the thing.But not you steve Lipski.you have a lot of explaining to do to the ward C taxpayers.Cunningham also has a lot of explaining to do for scaring the taxpayers and workers half to dead. : You have not been right about anything since you learned to speak. Maybe in another 50-60 years Gaynor might learn to shut up and stand a chance of learning something from people who actually know. Gaynor would not know one end of a bond from the other, let alone the difference between a good deal and a bad one. Goldman Sachs, Local Finance Board, Treasurer of New Jersey, and Bond Rating agencies all said that this is a good deal. But you and Undertaker Bill G. both know better, doncha? You are a joke and so is your opinion. You epitomize the worst of Hudson County political cronyism and patronage and you don't even have a job! And you will not get one--not ever. You are a wannabe and will always be. Not even a has been, you are a nevawuz. Sober up and get a life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3318 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 05, 2004 at 06:58:44 Subject: Jedsey DiMatteo wins out over Tom Gaynor At the meeting of the "Best of the best" last night for the next mayor Of Jersey City 2005. Jedsey Got 13 votes,Tom Gaynor got only 9 votes.so it looks like Jedsey will be the next Mayor Of jersey City in 2005."Scam Free in 2005". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3319 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 05, 2004 at 07:33:34 Subject: Re: Jedsey DiMatteo wins out over Tom Gaynor And they say there aint no God. Now maybe he willstop posting his crap and take up sand castlebuilding in Avon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3320 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 05, 2004 at 11:35:25 Subject: Re: Jedsey DiMatteo wins out over Tom Gaynor : At the meeting of the "Best of the best" last night for the next mayor Of Jersey City 2005. Jedsey Got 13 votes,Tom Gaynor got only 9 votes.so it looks like Jedsey will be the next Mayor Of jersey City in 2005."Scam Free in 2005". Ha: Ha: At the Mayors/Senator fund raiser last night it was a blast and losts of support so it looks like our Mayor will be the Mayor in 2005 so stop dreaming: We will work very hard for Glenn: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Victory in 2005 posted Message 3321 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 05, 2004 at 11:55:51 Subject: God Bless You Glenn Cunningham Last nights fundraiser was wonderful. God Bless Our Senator/Mayor Glenn D.Cunningham ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3322 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 05, 2004 at 14:49:23 Subject: Re: God Bless You Glenn Cunningham : Last nights fundraiser was wonderful. : God Bless Our Senator/Mayor Glenn D.Cunningham : You are correct the fundraiser was a blast and we will win in 2005, Glenn is the man and we love him very much, we will start a club for the Mayor/Senator (African American Women for Glenn D. Cunningham and so far I know about 200 women that would love to be apart of it) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Girls posted Message 3323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 05, 2004 at 17:49:42 Subject: Re: God Bless You Glenn Cunningham Last nights fundraiser was a joke. : God help us get away from Senator/Mayor Glenn D.Cunningham : You are correct the fundraiser was a flop and we will cheat with the help of all his boobs. Yes Glenn thinks he is the man and that we love him very much, we will start a club for the Mayor/Senator (African American Women who have slept with Glenn D. Cunningham and so far I know about 200 women that would love to be apart of it) on advise of their shrinks! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reverend Jim Jones posted Message 3324 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 05, 2004 at 21:20:40 Subject: KoolAid drinkers If one thought Gerry McCann was an embarassment to the City, this guy is worse. Can barely speak the English language. Always has Sandy at his side, in case he screws up. You Cunningham KoolAid drinkers will get your come-uppance soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3325 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 06, 2004 at 06:15:09 Subject: NJN Audio: Congressmen Steve Rothman and Mike Ferguson on Inside Trenton, 04/24/04 Steve Adubato and Rafael PiRoman interview Congressmen Steve Rothman and Mike Ferguson on New Jersey Network's Inside Trenton show. To hear the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Honest posted Message 3326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 06, 2004 at 06:36:51 Subject: JCHA Last night Artie was voted out for Chairperson of that Board well Artie you went with the bad guy's and march with Uncle Harvey in the Martin L. King Parade remember: ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3327 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 06, 2004 at 07:02:43 Subject: Tom Gaynor will see us through too 2005 He will expose all the "Cons" form this gang in City Hall.Also keep a close eye on the scam factories,such as the JCIA,MUA.JCHA,Parking Authority,And last but not least Mark"Bad Deals"Munley and the land scams going on in Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Grow up already..... posted Message 3328 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 06, 2004 at 07:07:13 Subject: Re: JCHA Ya' know Miss Honest.....your issues have issues! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Honest posted Message 3329 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 06, 2004 at 18:18:36 Subject: Re: JCHA : Ya' know Miss Honest.....your issues have issues! : I know the truth hurts but thats the way the cookie roles: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Honest posted Message 3330 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 06, 2004 at 18:21:50 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor will see us through too 2005 : He will expose all the "Cons" form this gang in City Hall.Also keep a close eye on the scam factories,such as the JCIA,MUA.JCHA,Parking Authority,And last but not least Mark"Bad Deals"Munley and the land scams going on in Jersey City Don't forget you people taught us well: We learn from you: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3331 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 06, 2004 at 18:43:18 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor will see us through too the zoo : He will expose himself to all the gang in City Hall.Also keep a close eye on him as will the JCIA,MUA.JCHA,Parking Authority. Where the hell is the Cheif with that butterfly net! ***************** End Of Article ****************** names I want names! posted Message 3332 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 06, 2004 at 23:20:57 Subject: Feeling lonely? You shouldn't be! There are 4 users Online here RIGHT NOW! Do you know me? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3333 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2004 at 19:03:16 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor will see us through too 2005 Tom Gaynor will see us through too 2005? Thats pretty funny. He cant see himself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where! Where! posted Message 3334 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 07, 2004 at 19:04:31 Subject: Re: Feeling lonely? You shouldn't be! There are 4 users Online here RIGHT NOW! : Do you know me? :: I don't know. Can you hear me now? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yippeeeeee! posted Message 3335 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 08, 2004 at 06:27:15 Subject: At 6:26 am, there are 3 people here besides me now Break out the party hats and noise makers! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yippeeeeee! NOT posted Message 3336 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 08, 2004 at 06:29:11 Subject: Where did you all go? It's 6:28am and everyone has left! Could it be my breath? :( ***************** End Of Article ****************** 6:45 am Mine too I guess posted Message 3337 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 08, 2004 at 06:46:10 Subject: Re: Where did you all go? YUP! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3338 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 08, 2004 at 09:02:24 Subject: Betsy IQ test for Jersey City Taxpayers What Authority brings in the Most$$$$$ for Conman Cunningham &GANG.1-JCIA-2-MUA-3-JCHA-4-PARKING AUTHORITY-5-MARK "BAD DEALS "MUNLEY AND HIS LAND DEALS.-6-BONDING DEALS-7-UTN ADS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 3339 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 08, 2004 at 14:13:31 Subject: Mayor Cunningham Says "No" to Cross Harbor Freight Tunnel to Jersey City Mayor Cunningham Says "No" to Cross Harbor Freight Tunnel to Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3340 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 08, 2004 at 15:08:45 Subject: Betsy is all Wetsy IQ test for Jersey City Taxpayers : What Authority gets the Most$$$$$ asa reward for Capturing Gaynor .1-JCIA-2-MUA-3-JCHA-4-PARKING AUTHORITY-5-Cheif Buonocore and his Gang with the butterfly net-6-Glazer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sent to Rest Home in Avon posted Message 3341 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 08, 2004 at 17:08:40 Subject: Gaynor Institutionalized : : What Authority gets the Most$$$$$ asa reward for Capturing Gaynor .1-JCIA-2-MUA-3-JCHA-4-PARKING AUTHORITY-5-Cheif Buonocore and his Gang with the butterfly net-6-Glazer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3342 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2004 at 09:10:54 Subject: Scam artist dont rest So even though its Mothers Day.Keep a eye on Conman and his Gang. They never stop planning their "Bad Deals" for Jeresy City Taxpayers.Nurse Betsy,how are you doing this morning? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3343 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2004 at 10:28:14 Subject: Pains in the arses dont rest : So even though its Mothers Day.Keep a eye on Gaynor and his Gang. They never stop planning their "Bad Jokes" for Jeresy City Taxpayers.Nurse Betsy,where are you hiding this morning? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anyone But Bush posted Message 3344 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2004 at 11:50:43 Subject: Anyone But Bush http://anyonebutbushtshirts.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3345 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2004 at 12:07:01 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Troubled Soul posted Message 3346 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2004 at 12:24:32 Subject: Bernie Kenny Quits Catholic Church State Senate Majority leader leaves Catholic church over policy debate The Associated Press 5/9/2004, 11:59 a.m. ET TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey's State Senate Majority leader has decided to leave the Roman Catholic church after 57 years, citing church demands that politicians vote in accordance with Catholic doctrine. Sen. Bernard Kenny, D-Hudson, told his pastor Saturday that would no longer be a member of the church. "If every faith starts trying to impose their rules on elected officials, democracy is going to be factionalized along religious lines," Kenny told The Philadelphia Inquirer for Sunday's editions. Kenny, who supports abortion rights and stem-cell research, said his church leaders told him he would be offered Communion one more time, "but that then he would tell me not to come again." A spokesman for the Archdiocese of Newark declined to comment on Kenny's decision. "I will look for other options to express my faith and will probably join another Christian church," Kenny told The Inquirer. U.S. Rep. William Pascrell Jr., also a Catholic Democrat, agrees that politicians have an obligation to represent all their constituents. "This is exactly what the Catholic Church said 50 years ago would not happen when Catholic politicians were trying to get elected to office," said Kenny, a former altar boy from Essex County. "It is a total reversal of the position that enabled Catholics to represent people of all faiths and all backgrounds." Last week Gov. James E. McGreevey took the rare step of saying that he won't receive Communion at public services. McGreevey's announcement came after Archbishop John Myers of Newark declared abortion rights supporters should not receive Communion, and the Camden bishop said he would refuse Communion to McGreevey. Adopting a respectful tone, the governor said he disagrees with Myers but would honor his request. Pascrell told The Inquirer he doesn't plan to follow suit. "I will continue receiving Communion — not in defiance, but out of conscience," he said. "I have nothing to apologize for." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Applied Companies Religion posted Message 3347 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2004 at 12:34:16 Subject: Only Worships Joe Barry For quite some time now it has been very obvious who Kenny really worshiped - a golden idol. NOW It's official !!! HCDO Chairman Senator Bernie Kenny worships the ground Joe Barry Walks on. Apparently Kenny has abandoned traditional beliefs. Kenny will however continue to daily enjoy 'the spirits" ***************** End Of Article ****************** bernie joins the crooks instead posted Message 3348 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2004 at 16:29:04 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny Quits Catholic Church : State Senate Majority leader leaves Catholic church over policy debate : bernie kenny sold his soul to the devil....he left the house of our lord..because he is better off with the crooks like his buddies Mcgreevey and menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Entire Family is Crooked posted Message 3349 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2004 at 16:41:43 Subject: Good Riddance To Bad Rubbish : : State Senate Majority leader leaves Catholic church over policy debate : : : bernie kenny sold his soul to the devil....he left the house of our lord..because he is better off with the crooks like his buddies Mcgreevey and menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3350 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2004 at 16:43:54 Subject: Remember the thing about the soup kitchen? Remember a while back BK said that he was volunteering a soup kitchen. Did anybody ever find out if that was true? If so, is he still doing that? : : : State Senate Majority leader leaves Catholic church over policy debate : : : : : bernie kenny sold his soul to the devil....he left the house of our lord..because he is better off with the crooks like his buddies Mcgreevey and menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Before Federal Sentencing posted Message 3351 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 09, 2004 at 16:54:36 Subject: Kenny Doing His Community Service : Remember a while back BK said that he was volunteering a soup kitchen. Did anybody ever find out if that was true? If so, is he still doing that? : : : : State Senate Majority leader leaves Catholic church over policy debate : : : : : : : bernie kenny sold his soul to the devil....he left the house of our lord..because he is better off with the crooks like his buddies Mcgreevey and menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3352 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 06:03:43 Subject: Star Ledger: Pro-choice legislator will leave his church Pro-choice legislator will leave his church Kenny cites his conflict with Catholic teaching Monday, May 10, 2004 BY JEFF DIAMANT Star-Ledger Staff Only days after the Newark archbishop called it dishonest for Catholic politicians to receive Communion if they favor abortion rights, a legislative leader said he will leave the Catholic church. State Senate Majority Leader Bernard Kenny (D-Hudson), 57, a former altar boy who regularly attended Saints Peter and Paul Church in Hoboken until about a year ago, said he had considered leaving the church about two years ago because his views on several issues, including abortion, conflicted with the church's. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor X-Ray posted Message 3353 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 06:59:31 Subject: I can see through The Conman and His Gang Also Nurse Betsy keep up the good work you are doing for the Taxpayers of Jersey City.This gang must be stopped.We need a New Mayor in 2005.To bad Tom Gaynor moved to Avon.He would have been super. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3354 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 07:24:35 Subject: I agree -Tom Gaynor would be a super Mayor for JC But the inside boys would not like it. No more "Bad deals" from Munley and his gang, if tom Gaynor was Mayor in 2005. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3355 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 08:00:01 Subject: Jedsey is still my Choice for Mayor og JC in 2005 What a great City we would have .A Mayor with Brains and is honest.Who could ask for anything more? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County GOP posted Message 3356 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 16:05:18 Subject: Richard William Piatkowski, Republican Candidate for the House of Representatives, 13th Congressional District Richard William Piatkowski, Republican Candidate for the House of Representatives, 13th Congressional District ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward D Cunningham Club posted Message 3357 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 16:18:27 Subject: Ward D Cunningham Club Grand Opening -- Saturday, May 15 - 12 Noon Ward D Cunningham Club Grand Opening -- Saturday, May 15 - 12 Noon ALL ARE INVITED! Saturday, May 15 - 12 Noon 297 Griffith Street (just off of Kennedy Boulevard -- one block from Vinnie's Pizza) FREE Food & Refreshments! Special Guest: Mayor/Senator Glenn D. Cunningham Bring a friend! -- Meet the Reform Democrats Committee candidates! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Senator Lost in the Sauce posted Message 3358 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 17:55:08 Subject: County Leader Kenny Renounces Church Senator Bernard F. Kenny Jr. - Son of Bernard F. Kenny Kenny's family history easily explains what type of morals this man has. Today Kenny left the Catholic Church. Senator Kenny is personal Attorney to the Indicted Joe Barry and Barry's Applied Companies - A Morally Bankrupt Publically Financed Cash Cow. It is easy to see what Senator Kenny Really worships. Senator Kenny also serves as Chairman of the Hudson County Democratic Organization - THE HCDO - Another Morally Bankrupt Operation. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nurse Val ain't a Gal posted Message 3359 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 18:01:18 Subject: Re: Jedsey is still my Choice for Mayor og JC in 2005 : What a great City we would have .A Mayor with Brains and is honest.Who could ask for anything more? :: For Tom to stay in Avon would be a good start. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3360 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 18:03:48 Subject: Re: I agree -Tom Gaynor would be a stupid Mayor for JC :The inside boys wouldlike it. Lots more "Bad jokes" from Gayonr and his gang, if tom Gaynor was Mayor in 2005. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Ix-Nay posted Message 3361 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 18:09:02 Subject: Re: I can see through Tom Gayor and His Gang Also : Nurse Betsy keep up the useless work you are doing for the Taxpayers of Jersey City.Toms gang must be stopped.We need a New Mayor in 2005.To bad Thankgod Gaynor moved to Avon.He would have been stupid. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3362 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 18:32:37 Subject: He's doing the correct thing. Why'd anyone want to claim to be more Catholic than the Pope? You don't like what's on the menu at one restaurant? Walk down the block and pick a place that has what you're looking for. ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 3363 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 18:44:21 Subject: Mayor Cunningham to Host Job Fair for Trustcompany Bank Employees Mayor Cunningham to Host Job Fair for Trustcompany Bank Employees ***************** End Of Article ****************** FINAL WORD posted Message 3364 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 10, 2004 at 22:03:01 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired Dorf is a decent guy who got involved with some lousy scum like Bill Ayala who smear people he can't intellectually beat. Ayala and the low-life scum like him that surround Cunningham are so pathetic that they strikeout at a guy with integrity that they can't compromise. Dorf has always worked hard and unfortunately never got the HC politicians he worked for to recognize his talents. He was great at PR for everyone but himself. HIS ONE FATAL FLAW. But I understand that he basically told Gunningham's pathetic crew to blow away. And he has always been smart enough to invest wisely, so I am sure he will a bright and prosperous future. Perhaps we will be fortunate to rid ourselves of GDC and his crew...and perhaps Dorf will return with a victorious opponent next year. : So what is the real scoop on this Dorf guy! Did he really get fired? Did he really put his nose into others business? Does he really live off daddy's money? Are these groupies that have written such positive stuff about him just love sick goo goo eyed puppies for this guy? What is the real scoop on this Dorf guy? Tell me please : : : : :: I thought his hair & goatee made him look like a potential candidate for the lead in a revival of Damn Yankees. : : : : : : : : : Is it a coincidence that once Brian Dorf was fired that Cunningham has been on a winning streak? : : : Hmmmm .. I believe someone is totally out of touch because Brian's hair and goatee are very nice and he wears them very well .. I do find your childish comments extremely immature and disgusting and hope your political campaign goes down the political pipes of Jersey really fast : : I believe the childish and disgusting remarks made about Brian Dorf's appearance are just typical of the childish behavior that Ayala and all the other idiots pathetic losers that are on this campaign. From what I see, Brian Dorf is an utmost professional classy guy with a great look and great mind. His hair and goatee make him a very handsome and distinguished gentleman. He is sharp, independent, a great writer, and very professional. I hope that Ayala will soon go down the political pipes of jersey city ... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor X-ray posted Message 3365 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 06:54:59 Subject: I can see through Conman Cunningham &Gang What will be the next Scam produced by "Bad Deals"Munleys &the Cunningham gang against the taxspayers of Jersey City?They are working on one right now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3366 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 07:28:57 Subject: If only Tom Gaynor would come back from Avon Jersey City right now is so dirty and crime ridden.If we only could return to the glorious past.We must become Cunningham "Free"in 2005.Hang in there, good taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3367 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 07:33:13 Subject: We got Jedsey DiMatteo for 2005 We dont need Tom Gaynor at all.Stick with Jedsey.He got Brains and is Honest.Unlike the Conman Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3368 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 08:44:31 Subject: NJN Video: State Senator Bernard Kenny Leaves the Catholic Church As his views on abortion differ from Vatican policy, State Senator Bernard Kenny has decided to leave the Catholic Church. To view the NJN Video Online, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Larry Cirignano posted Message 3369 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 11:34:54 Subject: Re: NJN Video: State Senator Bernard Kenny Leaves the Catholic Church Bernie admits he has not been going to church for two years. His priorities are messed up. His goal should be to get to Heaven not to Trenton. You can be against killing babies and get to Trenton even in Hudson County (Joe Doria). You can not be for killing babies and get to Heaven. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Much More ToThe Story posted Message 3370 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 11:43:22 Subject: Kenny Has No Morals Senator HCDO Chariman Bernie Kenny has no morals - who does he think he is kidding ? Bernie if your reading this - explain your relationship with Joe Barry and the Applied Companies. How much money you make from them. And while you are at it Senator HCDO Chairman Kenny tell us how much your Law Firm bllls the City Of Hoboken each month !!!! This is just the tip of the Iceberg regarding what is realling going on with Bernie Kenny, : Bernie admits he has not been going to church for two years. His priorities are messed up. His goal should be to get to Heaven not to Trenton. You can be against killing babies and get to Trenton even in Hudson County (Joe Doria). You can not be for killing babies and get to Heaven. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kelly up on Sip posted Message 3371 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 16:06:56 Subject: Re: Jessey is still my Choice for Mayor og JC in 2005 How about a mayor with the smarts to pick decent people to work in his office? Too much to ask for? Just tired of the arrogant idiots workin up at 280 Grove. And somebody put a leash on his Chief o'Staff. : What a great City we would have .A Mayor with Brains and is honest.Who could ask for anything more? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Downright Dirty posted Message 3372 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 16:11:13 Subject: Re: Cunninghams Directors-Poor Choices Need to follow Cunningham Crew wit a pooper scooper to clean up the crap they leave all over town. And Munley? I hear all he needs is a straw, mirror and razor blade. Keeps em in his desk I'm told. : Why do you think the Conman picked these people to be Jersey City Directors ?It is certainly no because they are qualified.Could it be to follow out his Scams, like "Bad Deals"Munley. Speaking of scams , how is everything at the JCHA going? ***************** End Of Article ****************** HELP Doc posted Message 3373 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 16:12:35 Subject: Re: I can see through Conman Cunningham &Gang Doctor Doctor....Gimme the News....I got the badass feelin we're all bein used!!! : What will be the next Scam produced by "Bad Deals" Munleys &the Cunningham gang against the taxspayers of Jersey City?They are working on one right now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3374 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 16:46:27 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show, 05/10/04 To access the Online audio recording, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor X-Ray posted Message 3375 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 17:16:14 Subject: Election Jobs in 2005 by the Conman Word has it that the Conman Cunningham is going to give out a lot of jobs for Ward D with your Taxpaying Money.They call it, trying to get elected. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Got Blackballed By DeGise ,Kenny et al posted Message 3376 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 20:55:08 Subject: Lovely Nancy Looking for Job Perhaps the Lovely Nancy will finally get back on the public pad -- Afterall her good friend Tom DePuppet LIED TO her and instead hired his own sister. : Word has it that the Conman Cunningham is going to give out a lot of jobs for Ward D with your Taxpaying Money.They call it, trying to get elected. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Ix-Nay posted Message 3377 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 21:34:30 Subject: Re: Election Jobs in 2005 by the Conman : Word has it that the Conman Gaynor is going to give out.They call it, peace and queit. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3378 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 11, 2004 at 21:38:04 Subject: Re: If only Tom Gaynor would go back to Avon : Jersey City right now is so tired and guilt ridden.If we only could march to the glorious future.We must become Gaynor "Free"in 2005.Hang in there, good taxpayers.The Cheif will catch this addled brain idiot yet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3379 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2004 at 07:23:53 Subject: Tom DeGise would have made a super Mayor for JC Its a shame the origanization didnt see that four years ago.Now we have to make up for four lost years of Mis-Administration by Cunningham and his gang. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3380 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2004 at 07:34:30 Subject: Happy birthdaty Tom Gaynor Well said Mr Gaynor.Tom DeGise would have made Jersey City proud.But we must move on.The next Mayor of jersey city must be honest and bright.I hope they come up with someone soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3381 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2004 at 07:49:43 Subject: How is the JCHA investigation coming Along? It seems the Conman is running for Cover.You can run but you cant hide,Mr Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor X-Ray posted Message 3382 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2004 at 08:54:39 Subject: I can see everything going on by the Conman in JC So be careful with your scams, boys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Piatkowski For Congress posted Message 3383 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2004 at 13:35:23 Subject: Congressional Candidate Richard Piatkowski Condemns Castro’s Institutionalized Terror Against the Cuban People Congressional Candidate Richard Piatkowski Condemns Castro’s Institutionalized Terror Against the Cuban People ***************** End Of Article ****************** doctor XUV posted Message 3384 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2004 at 23:15:50 Subject: Re: Election Jobs in 2005 by the Conman : Word has it that the Conman Cunningham is going to give out a lot of jobs for Ward D with your Taxpaying Money.They call it, trying to get elected. I'm not political involved.... but ur the dumbest SOB in town ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3384 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 12, 2004 at 23:15:51 Subject: Which is worse ??? Anthony shilling for the pathetic Republican Party of Hudson County or kissing the behind of Cunningham and crew on this site. You decide. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE RUSSO CIVIC ASSOCIATION posted Message 3385 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 04:51:01 Subject: Team Russo Supports American Cancer Society Event THE RUSSO CIVIC ASSOCIATION 420 Adams Street Hoboken, NJ 07030 201-792-6226 Dear Friends and Neighbors: Cancer! Just the mention of the word evokes waves of emotions ranging from disbelief, terror and fear to acceptance and hope. Cancer has touched each of us in many ways. Some of us may have lost someone to this dreaded killer. However, the prospects have gotten better over the years. The increase in survivors is a direct result of many years of research by dedicated professionals and generous contributors. The Russo Association is participating in an American Cancer Society event, the “Relay for Life”. We have lost our fair share of friends and happily have members that are survivors. Team Russo is soliciting contributions for this year’s fundraising event. Enclosed you will find information concerning your contribution. We are hoping that we may count on you to help make this year’s event even more successful than last. Please be generous with your donation. Let’s all help to obliterate this disease! Our sincerest gratitude, Michael Russo Team Captain ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3386 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 05:30:05 Subject: GET NJ asked Menendez to submit Video Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Ix-Nay posted Message 3387 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 06:40:43 Subject: Re: I can see everything going on by the Conman in JC : So be careful with your gams, boys, cause I'm obviously a voyuer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val aint a Gal posted Message 3388 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 06:43:33 Subject: Re: How is the JCHA investigation coming Along? : How's your life in drag coming along Val? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3389 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 06:46:24 Subject: Re: Happy birthdaty Tom Gaynor : Well, enoughsaid Mr Gaynor.Tom DeGise would have made Jersey City fowl.But we must move on.The next Mayor of jersey city must be honest and bright.I hope they come up with someone soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3390 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 07:05:53 Subject: What does the Conman Cunningham Think of Scams Does he think is all part of doing Business?.Does he feel he owes it to the "inside Boys"?He doesnt think its wrong?.Poor Jersey City taxpayers if any of these things are true.How was your birthday yesterday?.My dear friend. Tom Gaynor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor X-Ray posted Message 3391 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 07:37:55 Subject: I can see through all of the conman scams The next few are real beauts.The inside boys will love them.As for the taxpayers.Time is on your side.Only one year to go,in order to be "Conman free". ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3392 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 08:18:45 Subject: Jedsey Dimatteo Iis waiting in the wings-2005 He is just a phone call away.Brains and honest,Just what JC needs to rebound from this gang in City hall. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'll tell you why posted Message 3393 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 09:02:04 Subject: Re: This site is a sewer : Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. : I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. : I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? : When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! No one with any legitimacy would ever post anything of importance on this bathroom wall. Its the Urban Times newz of the internet.You can get fleas just reading it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3394 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 12:02:40 Subject: Since y'er a know it all . . . Are the same 2 shows being aired on every cable system or only on Comcast in Jersey City? Were public funds used to produce the show? An' I realize that you have an attention span of a gnat, but the my reply was to a post statin' that only Hudson GOP and Reform Democrat material is on the shelf here. HCDO is too good for GET NJ, OK. . . BUT DON'T WHINE THAT YA' AIN'T GETTIN' A FAIR SHAKE!!!! : : Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. : : I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. : : I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? : : When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! : No one with any legitimacy would ever post anything of importance on this bathroom wall. Its the Urban Times newz of the internet.You can get fleas just reading it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3395 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 15:56:47 Subject: Chicken Little and Gene Drayton No, the sky's not falling and Deputy Mayor Gene Drayton hasn't left town. Even without my glasses, I couldn't help but recognize him. And -- being that it was a City/State photo op, he certainly isn't on a lamb chop. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJ Senate Democrats posted Message 3396 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 16:16:59 Subject: KENNY BILL HELPS FAMILIES DEAL WITH GRIEF OF LOST LOVED ONE FOR RELEASE: Immediate May 13, 2004 CONTACT: Jim Manion Tel: (609) 292-5215 KENNY BILL HELPS FAMILIES DEAL WITH GRIEF OF LOST LOVED ONE HOBOKEN - A Senate committee today approved a bill which its sponsor, Senator Bernard F. Kenny Jr., hopes will prevent what happened to the family of the late Hoboken civic leader Anna Fontana from ever happening again. "If good comes out of the travesty which was inflicted on the Fontana Family when Anna Fontana passed away, then that may be the only consolation," said Senator Kenny, D-Hoboken. Senator Kenny's bill, S-1534, would require hospitals to establish notification procedures for families of a patient who dies at their facility. The measure would upgrade the requirement from an existing regulation issued by the Department of Health. Peter and Frank Fontana said their acutely-ill, 83 year-old mother died last May at St. Barnabas Medical Center in Livingston, but that hospital staff initially told them simply that she was no longer a patient at the facility. Meanwhile, it wasn't until a full 10 hours after her death at 2 a.m. that morning that the family learned her body, in fact, had been transported to the hospital's morgue. "It's hard enough dealing with the loss of a parent or any close relative, but to put families through the uncertainties related to misinformation is unconscionable," Senator Kenny said. "This family couldn't find their mother's body for hours after her death." The Senate Health, Human Services and Senior Citizens Committee approved the bill at a meeting held today at Children's Specialized Hospital in Mountainside. It now awaits action by the full Senate. A doctor treating Mrs. Fontana claimed he notified her family, but the family denied they ever received a call and the hospital later disputed his claim. The Kenny measure would require confirmation and written documentation that notification of a patient's death had been made to a family member or to another designated person. Mrs. Fontana was the supervisor of elections for Hudson County in the absentee ballot division for nearly 30 years and was a former vice chair of the Hoboken Republican Party for 20 years. A subsequent probe by State Board of Medical Examiners cleared the doctor of any wrongdoing on grounds there was no state law requiring doctors to contact anyone concerning the death of a patient. Senator Kenny's measure would alter that situation. # ***************** End Of Article ****************** What I know posted Message 3397 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 16:47:40 Subject: Re: Since y'er a know it all . . . : Are the same 2 shows being aired on every cable system or only on Comcast in Jersey City? : Were public funds used to produce the show? : An' I realize that you have an attention span of a gnat, but the my reply was to a post statin' that only Hudson GOP and Reform Democrat material is on the shelf here. HCDO is too good for GET NJ, OK. . . BUT DON'T WHINE THAT YA' AIN'T GETTIN' A FAIR SHAKE!!!! : : : Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. : : : I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. : : : I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? : : : When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! : : No one with any legitimacy would ever post anything of importance on this bathroom wall. Its the Urban Times newz of the internet.You can get fleas just reading it. Since the Hudson GOP and the RDO are both Cunningham puppet organizations the point is only a low life like him (and you) would post in this urinal. You miss a point here Anthony, you are encouraging others to post the same slime your side does. You say if we do you'll permit it. The point is no one can stoop as low as you and Glazer and Cardwell and Jackson et.al..Some of us see lines we won't cross, you don't. And you provide the wall for these obscenities. Goes around comes around Anth'y, and its a comin'. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3398 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 16:59:30 Subject: Y'er still usin' all the rest of the same creased up sheet of talkin' points What happened to SAVE THE LOWES. Y'er still usin' all the rest of the same creased up sheet of talkin' points, why not drag that one out with the rest. Remember the little thing about a cloud a longways off -- no bigger than the a hand. . . that's where the Weatherman got their name. : : Are the same 2 shows being aired on every cable system or only on Comcast in Jersey City? : : Were public funds used to produce the show? : : An' I realize that you have an attention span of a gnat, but the my reply was to a post statin' that only Hudson GOP and Reform Democrat material is on the shelf here. HCDO is too good for GET NJ, OK. . . BUT DON'T WHINE THAT YA' AIN'T GETTIN' A FAIR SHAKE!!!! : : : : Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. : : : : I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. : : : : I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? : : : : When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! : : : No one with any legitimacy would ever post anything of importance on this bathroom wall. Its the Urban Times newz of the internet.You can get fleas just reading it. : Since the Hudson GOP and the RDO are both Cunningham puppet organizations the point is only a low life like him (and you) would post in this urinal. You miss a point here Anthony, you are encouraging others to post the same slime your side does. You say if we do you'll permit it. The point is no one can stoop as low as you and Glazer and Cardwell and Jackson et.al..Some of us see lines we won't cross, you don't. And you provide the wall for these obscenities. Goes around comes around Anth'y, and its a comin'. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ask Chris Christie posted Message 3399 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 18:23:40 Subject: Menendez is the WORST Just saw Boss Menendez's reelection TV spot declaring HIMSELF - OUR CHAMPION -- Barf Bag Please ............ : What happened to SAVE THE LOWES. Y'er still usin' all the rest of the same creased up sheet of talkin' points, why not drag that one out with the rest. : Remember the little thing about a cloud a longways off -- no bigger than the a hand. . . that's where the Weatherman got their name. : : : Are the same 2 shows being aired on every cable system or only on Comcast in Jersey City? : : : Were public funds used to produce the show? : : : An' I realize that you have an attention span of a gnat, but the my reply was to a post statin' that only Hudson GOP and Reform Democrat material is on the shelf here. HCDO is too good for GET NJ, OK. . . BUT DON'T WHINE THAT YA' AIN'T GETTIN' A FAIR SHAKE!!!! : : : : : Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. : : : : : I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. : : : : : I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? : : : : : When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! : : : : No one with any legitimacy would ever post anything of importance on this bathroom wall. Its the Urban Times newz of the internet.You can get fleas just reading it. : : Since the Hudson GOP and the RDO are both Cunningham puppet organizations the point is only a low life like him (and you) would post in this urinal. You miss a point here Anthony, you are encouraging others to post the same slime your side does. You say if we do you'll permit it. The point is no one can stoop as low as you and Glazer and Cardwell and Jackson et.al..Some of us see lines we won't cross, you don't. And you provide the wall for these obscenities. Goes around comes around Anth'y, and its a comin'. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth WIll Set You Free posted Message 3400 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 18:26:47 Subject: Bernie - What Bills Did You Pass For Joe Barry ? Nice Fluff Piece - Now Senator tells us what you did for Joe Barry and the Applied Companies. : FOR RELEASE: Immediate : May 13, 2004 : CONTACT: Jim Manion : Tel: (609) 292-5215 : KENNY BILL HELPS FAMILIES DEAL WITH GRIEF OF LOST LOVED ONE : HOBOKEN - A Senate committee today approved a bill which its sponsor, Senator Bernard F. Kenny Jr., hopes will prevent what happened to the family of the late Hoboken civic leader Anna Fontana from ever happening again. : "If good comes out of the travesty which was inflicted on the Fontana Family when Anna Fontana passed away, then that may be the only consolation," said Senator Kenny, D-Hoboken. : Senator Kenny's bill, S-1534, would require hospitals to establish notification procedures for families of a patient who dies at their facility. The measure would upgrade the requirement from an existing regulation issued by the Department of Health. : Peter and Frank Fontana said their acutely-ill, 83 year-old mother died last May at St. Barnabas Medical Center in Livingston, but that hospital staff initially told them simply that she was no longer a patient at the facility. Meanwhile, it wasn't until a full 10 hours after her death at 2 a.m. that morning that the family learned her body, in fact, had been transported to the hospital's morgue. : "It's hard enough dealing with the loss of a parent or any close relative, but to put families through the uncertainties related to misinformation is unconscionable," Senator Kenny said. "This family couldn't find their mother's body for hours after her death." : The Senate Health, Human Services and Senior Citizens Committee approved the bill at a meeting held today at Children's Specialized Hospital in Mountainside. It now awaits action by the full Senate. : A doctor treating Mrs. Fontana claimed he notified her family, but the family denied they ever received a call and the hospital later disputed his claim. : The Kenny measure would require confirmation and written documentation that notification of a patient's death had been made to a family member or to another designated person. : Mrs. Fontana was the supervisor of elections for Hudson County in the absentee ballot division for nearly 30 years and was a former vice chair of the Hoboken Republican Party for 20 years. : A subsequent probe by State Board of Medical Examiners cleared the doctor of any wrongdoing on grounds there was no state law requiring doctors to contact anyone concerning the death of a patient. Senator Kenny's measure would alter that situation. : # ***************** End Of Article ****************** Subterranium Homesick Blues posted Message 3401 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 18:30:56 Subject: Re: Mark Rudd : What happened to SAVE THE LOWES. Y'er still usin' all the rest of the same creased up sheet of talkin' points, why not drag that one out with the rest. : Remember the little thing about a cloud a longways off -- no bigger than the a hand. . . that's where the Weatherman got their name. The Weathermen got their name from the famous Bob Dylan song. "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." Gotta agree with the goes around comes around thing too. Less than a year to go. : : : Are the same 2 shows being aired on every cable system or only on Comcast in Jersey City? : : : Were public funds used to produce the show? : : : An' I realize that you have an attention span of a gnat, but the my reply was to a post statin' that only Hudson GOP and Reform Democrat material is on the shelf here. HCDO is too good for GET NJ, OK. . . BUT DON'T WHINE THAT YA' AIN'T GETTIN' A FAIR SHAKE!!!! : : : : : Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. : : : : : I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. : : : : : I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? : : : : : When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! : : : : No one with any legitimacy would ever post anything of importance on this bathroom wall. Its the Urban Times newz of the internet.You can get fleas just reading it. : : Since the Hudson GOP and the RDO are both Cunningham puppet organizations the point is only a low life like him (and you) would post in this urinal. You miss a point here Anthony, you are encouraging others to post the same slime your side does. You say if we do you'll permit it. The point is no one can stoop as low as you and Glazer and Cardwell and Jackson et.al..Some of us see lines we won't cross, you don't. And you provide the wall for these obscenities. Goes around comes around Anth'y, and its a comin'. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3402 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 20:45:17 Subject: Movin Out We can only hope Drayton and the rest of the Cunningham crew all leave town together. I'm sure the federal authorities are hot on Drayton's trail. Maybe Troy Washington can arrange for Glenn, Sandy, Gene. etal to move to his place in Africa. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3403 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 20:46:58 Subject: Luke 12 Luke 12 . . . When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is. 55 And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass. 56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? . . . : : What happened to SAVE THE LOWES. Y'er still usin' all the rest of the same creased up sheet of talkin' points, why not drag that one out with the rest. : : Remember the little thing about a cloud a longways off -- no bigger than a hand. . . that's where the Weatherman got their name. : The Weathermen got their name from the famous Bob Dylan song. "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." Gotta agree with the goes around comes around thing too. Less than a year to go. : : : : Are the same 2 shows being aired on every cable system or only on Comcast in Jersey City? : : : : Were public funds used to produce the show? : : : : An' I realize that you have an attention span of a gnat, but the my reply was to a post statin' that only Hudson GOP and Reform Democrat material is on the shelf here. HCDO is too good for GET NJ, OK. . . BUT DON'T WHINE THAT YA' AIN'T GETTIN' A FAIR SHAKE!!!! : : : : : : Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. : : : : : : I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. : : : : : : I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? : : : : : : When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! : : : : : No one with any legitimacy would ever post anything of importance on this bathroom wall. Its the Urban Times newz of the internet.You can get fleas just reading it. : : : Since the Hudson GOP and the RDO are both Cunningham puppet organizations the point is only a low life like him (and you) would post in this urinal. You miss a point here Anthony, you are encouraging others to post the same slime your side does. You say if we do you'll permit it. The point is no one can stoop as low as you and Glazer and Cardwell and Jackson et.al..Some of us see lines we won't cross, you don't. And you provide the wall for these obscenities. Goes around comes around Anth'y, and its a comin'. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer had the wisdom to get out posted Message 3404 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 13, 2004 at 23:37:47 Subject: Re: Y'er still usin' all the rest of the same creased up sheet of talkin' points nt ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Ix-Nay posted Message 3405 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 06:53:14 Subject: Re: I can see through all of the Gaynor shams : The next few are real beauts.The inside boys will love them.As for the taxpayers.Time is on your side.Only one year to go,in order to be "Gaynor free". ***************** End Of Article ****************** girl posted Message 3406 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 08:10:54 Subject: Re: Movin Out : We can only hope Drayton and the rest of the Cunningham crew all leave town together. I'm sure the federal authorities are hot on Drayton's trail. Maybe Troy Washington can arrange for Glenn, Sandy, Gene. etal to move to his place in Africa. : You should be ashame of yourself saying something like this, you must be a racist: and by the way Africa is a beautiful Country you should visit someday: ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3407 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 08:29:54 Subject: Tom Gaynors top three Choices for Mayor in 2005 He told me he will annouce them next week. In the meantime,remember ABC-Anybody But Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Huh?? posted Message 3408 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 09:49:51 Subject: Re: Mark Rudd :What are you babbling about? Now Bobby Dylan, he I understand. : . . . : When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is. 55 And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass. 56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? : . . . : : : What happened to SAVE THE LOWES. Y'er still usin' all the rest of the same creased up sheet of talkin' points, why not drag that one out with the rest. : : : Remember the little thing about a cloud a longways off -- no bigger than a hand. . . that's where the Weatherman got their name. : : The Weathermen got their name from the famous Bob Dylan song. "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." Gotta agree with the goes around comes around thing too. Less than a year to go. : : : : : Are the same 2 shows being aired on every cable system or only on Comcast in Jersey City? : : : : : Were public funds used to produce the show? : : : : : An' I realize that you have an attention span of a gnat, but the my reply was to a post statin' that only Hudson GOP and Reform Democrat material is on the shelf here. HCDO is too good for GET NJ, OK. . . BUT DON'T WHINE THAT YA' AIN'T GETTIN' A FAIR SHAKE!!!! : : : : : : : Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. : : : : : : : I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. : : : : : : : I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? : : : : : : : When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! : : : : : : No one with any legitimacy would ever post anything of importance on this bathroom wall. Its the Urban Times newz of the internet.You can get fleas just reading it. : : : : Since the Hudson GOP and the RDO are both Cunningham puppet organizations the point is only a low life like him (and you) would post in this urinal. You miss a point here Anthony, you are encouraging others to post the same slime your side does. You say if we do you'll permit it. The point is no one can stoop as low as you and Glazer and Cardwell and Jackson et.al..Some of us see lines we won't cross, you don't. And you provide the wall for these obscenities. Goes around comes around Anth'y, and its a comin'. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3409 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 10:05:51 Subject: Bob Dylan is rephrasing the New Testament In the song, Bob Dylan rephrases the New Testament in contemporary English. : :What are you babbling about? Now Bobby Dylan, he I understand. : : . . . : : When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is. 55 And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass. 56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? : : . . . : : : : What happened to SAVE THE LOWES. Y'er still usin' all the rest of the same creased up sheet of talkin' points, why not drag that one out with the rest. : : : : Remember the little thing about a cloud a longways off -- no bigger than a hand. . . that's where the Weatherman got their name. : : : The Weathermen got their name from the famous Bob Dylan song. "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." Gotta agree with the goes around comes around thing too. Less than a year to go. : : : : : : Are the same 2 shows being aired on every cable system or only on Comcast in Jersey City? : : : : : : Were public funds used to produce the show? : : : : : : An' I realize that you have an attention span of a gnat, but the my reply was to a post statin' that only Hudson GOP and Reform Democrat material is on the shelf here. HCDO is too good for GET NJ, OK. . . BUT DON'T WHINE THAT YA' AIN'T GETTIN' A FAIR SHAKE!!!! : : : : : : : : Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. : : : : : : : : I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. : : : : : : : : I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? : : : : : : : : When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! : : : : : : : No one with any legitimacy would ever post anything of importance on this bathroom wall. Its the Urban Times newz of the internet.You can get fleas just reading it. : : : : : Since the Hudson GOP and the RDO are both Cunningham puppet organizations the point is only a low life like him (and you) would post in this urinal. You miss a point here Anthony, you are encouraging others to post the same slime your side does. You say if we do you'll permit it. The point is no one can stoop as low as you and Glazer and Cardwell and Jackson et.al..Some of us see lines we won't cross, you don't. And you provide the wall for these obscenities. Goes around comes around Anth'y, and its a comin'. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3410 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 11:01:50 Subject: Hunter S. Thompson ". . . like the famous line Joe Louis uttered on the eve of his fight with Billy Conn: 'He can run, but he can't hide.' That is a thing that you want to remember if you work in either journalism or politics . . ." Hunter S. Thompson ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3411 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 15:41:24 Subject: I am told ... that Mr. Washington actually took funds from the Hoboken Housing Authority to purchase a home in Africa. I am sure the Fedral Authorities will note this and arrange an alternate home for Troy in a federal correction facility. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3412 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 15:58:04 Subject: The other side of the story. Given that this site seems to be dominated by Republican and Cunningham propaganda, I thought I'd post a link with another view. http://menendez.house.gov/ I attended the opening of the Royal Caribbean Cruiseport in Bayonne today. Another project and accomplishment made possible by Congressman Bob Menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Recovering Catholic posted Message 3413 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 16:11:28 Subject: Congratulations Senator Kenny I would like to praise Senator Kenny for his courageous decision to pursue his faith outside the construct of the corrupt and hypocritial Roman Catholic Church. It is laughable for these bishops to try to strongarm Catholic politicians by witholding the Churchs' sacraments. These bishops, who obstructed justice by hiding pedophile priests and concealing evidence key to law enforcement investigations, can simply no longer claim the moral high ground. They threaten to withold the Churchs' grace from those who support a woman's right to choose while turning a blind eye to others who support the death penalty. They propagate the myth that condoms cannot prevent sexually transmitted diseases like HIV and compound the AIDS crisi throught the world. They discriminate againt women by refusing them entry into the priesthood. The Catholic Church is anachronistic, anti-woman, homophobic and simply out of touch with the realities of the world. It is not surprising that people are leaving the church in droves and priests no longer can be recruited. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3414 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 16:44:44 Subject: Re: Congratulations Senator Kenny Funny thing, as long as the Catholic Church put up with the 2-faced, it was SIMPLY MARVELOUS. Every other word out of Jimmy Mac was about having breakfast with the Monsignor. Now that the Church got fed up wih the phonies, we keep hearing about dens of pedophiles and misogynists. Why didn't youse guys speak up before? Again, I think that Senator Kenny is doing the correct thing here. But the shills (the guy with the toupe is leadin' the pack) oughta get a grip on their lips! The Church is a private club. You don't like the rules, take a walk. : I would like to praise Senator Kenny for his courageous decision to pursue his faith outside the construct of the corrupt and hypocritial Roman Catholic Church. : It is laughable for these bishops to try to strongarm Catholic politicians by witholding the Churchs' sacraments. These bishops, who obstructed justice by hiding pedophile priests and concealing evidence key to law enforcement investigations, can simply no longer claim the moral high ground. : They threaten to withold the Churchs' grace from those who support a woman's right to choose while turning a blind eye to others who support the death penalty. They propagate the myth that condoms cannot prevent sexually transmitted diseases like HIV and compound the AIDS crisi throught the world. They discriminate againt women by refusing them entry into the priesthood. : The Catholic Church is anachronistic, anti-woman, homophobic and simply out of touch with the realities of the world. It is not surprising that people are leaving the church in droves and priests no longer can be recruited. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Royal Carribean Hired Kay Licausi posted Message 3415 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 16:58:10 Subject: THE REAL STORY The Truth is KL Strageties has been retained by Royal Carribean for "Public Relations" : Given that this site seems to be dominated by Republican and Cunningham propaganda, I thought I'd post a link with another view. : http://menendez.house.gov/ : I attended the opening of the Royal Caribbean Cruiseport in Bayonne today. Another project and accomplishment made possible by Congressman Bob Menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mark Rudd posted Message 3416 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 17:14:28 Subject: Re: Say What? : In the song, Bob Dylan rephrases the New Testament in contemporary English. Thats one of the most ludicrous things I've ever heard. "Johnny's in the basement mixing up the medicine. Im on the pavement thinking bout the government". Where's that from, Luke? And remember he's a Zimmerman. No new Testament. Take the pseudo-intellectual act on the road. "Don't follow leaders watch the parking meters". Hey bub, ITS A SONG! Geeez. : : :What are you babbling about? Now Bobby Dylan, he I understand. : : : . . . : : : When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is. 55 And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass. 56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? : : : . . . : : : : : What happened to SAVE THE LOWES. Y'er still usin' all the rest of the same creased up sheet of talkin' points, why not drag that one out with the rest. : : : : : Remember the little thing about a cloud a longways off -- no bigger than a hand. . . that's where the Weatherman got their name. : : : : The Weathermen got their name from the famous Bob Dylan song. "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." Gotta agree with the goes around comes around thing too. Less than a year to go. : : : : : : : Are the same 2 shows being aired on every cable system or only on Comcast in Jersey City? : : : : : : : Were public funds used to produce the show? : : : : : : : An' I realize that you have an attention span of a gnat, but the my reply was to a post statin' that only Hudson GOP and Reform Democrat material is on the shelf here. HCDO is too good for GET NJ, OK. . . BUT DON'T WHINE THAT YA' AIN'T GETTIN' A FAIR SHAKE!!!! : : : : : : : : : Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. : : : : : : : : : I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. : : : : : : : : : I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? : : : : : : : : : When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! : : : : : : : : No one with any legitimacy would ever post anything of importance on this bathroom wall. Its the Urban Times newz of the internet.You can get fleas just reading it. : : : : : : Since the Hudson GOP and the RDO are both Cunningham puppet organizations the point is only a low life like him (and you) would post in this urinal. You miss a point here Anthony, you are encouraging others to post the same slime your side does. You say if we do you'll permit it. The point is no one can stoop as low as you and Glazer and Cardwell and Jackson et.al..Some of us see lines we won't cross, you don't. And you provide the wall for these obscenities. Goes around comes around Anth'y, and its a comin'. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3417 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 17:18:12 Subject: JEEPERS! Jeepers, just yesterday I was told that Congressman Menendez was too good to be mentioned at GET NJ. Did GET NJ suddenly do like a quantum leap upwards or is it the other way around? BTW, Monday was a new record -- just over 5,600 visitors for all of GET NJ (not including mafiaNJ.com, computercraft.com, JerseyCityHistory.com, PETCRAFT.com, RogerChugh.com, UBERHIPPY.com, NJReporter.com, NJFAQ.com, JCFAQ.com, intellectualpredator.com, et. al.). : Given that this site seems to be dominated by Republican and Cunningham propaganda, I thought I'd post a link with another view. : http://menendez.house.gov/ : I attended the opening of the Royal Caribbean Cruiseport in Bayonne today. Another project and accomplishment made possible by Congressman Bob Menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3418 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 17:28:00 Subject: Re: Say What? I mean that "Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?" translates into "You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." Hang around here and you'll learn all sorts of stuff. : : In the song, Bob Dylan rephrases the New Testament in contemporary English. : Thats one of the most ludicrous things I've ever heard. "Johnny's in the basement mixing up the medicine. Im on the pavement thinking bout the government". Where's that from, Luke? And remember he's a Zimmerman. No new Testament. Take the pseudo-intellectual act on the road. "Don't follow leaders watch the parking meters". Hey bub, ITS A SONG! Geeez. : : : :What are you babbling about? Now Bobby Dylan, he I understand. : : : : . . . : : : : When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is. 55 And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass. 56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? : : : : . . . : : : : : : What happened to SAVE THE LOWES. Y'er still usin' all the rest of the same creased up sheet of talkin' points, why not drag that one out with the rest. : : : : : : Remember the little thing about a cloud a longways off -- no bigger than a hand. . . that's where the Weatherman got their name. : : : : : The Weathermen got their name from the famous Bob Dylan song. "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." Gotta agree with the goes around comes around thing too. Less than a year to go. : : : : : : : : Are the same 2 shows being aired on every cable system or only on Comcast in Jersey City? : : : : : : : : Were public funds used to produce the show? : : : : : : : : An' I realize that you have an attention span of a gnat, but the my reply was to a post statin' that only Hudson GOP and Reform Democrat material is on the shelf here. HCDO is too good for GET NJ, OK. . . BUT DON'T WHINE THAT YA' AIN'T GETTIN' A FAIR SHAKE!!!! : : : : : : : : : : Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. : : : : : : : : : : I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. : : : : : : : : : : I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? : : : : : : : : : : When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! : : : : : : : : : No one with any legitimacy would ever post anything of importance on this bathroom wall. Its the Urban Times newz of the internet.You can get fleas just reading it. : : : : : : : Since the Hudson GOP and the RDO are both Cunningham puppet organizations the point is only a low life like him (and you) would post in this urinal. You miss a point here Anthony, you are encouraging others to post the same slime your side does. You say if we do you'll permit it. The point is no one can stoop as low as you and Glazer and Cardwell and Jackson et.al..Some of us see lines we won't cross, you don't. And you provide the wall for these obscenities. Goes around comes around Anth'y, and its a comin'. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3419 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 19:03:02 Subject: Menendez Campaign Web Site See the Link: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3420 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 20:27:12 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynors top three Choices for Mayor in 2005 : He told me he will annouce them next week. In the meantime,remember when itcomes to Gaynor - ABC-Always Been Crazy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Recovering Catholic posted Message 3421 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 14, 2004 at 21:03:34 Subject: Speaking of Phonies As bad as the hypocritical Catholic bishops are the born again religious right. Like that famous fighter for religious freedom Bret Schundler. Save me from sanctimonious politiicans. Not only is Bret wrong on the issue of choice, Bret takes every chance he can to invoke the name of the Lord (like that loser Glenn Cunningham). Whining at every opportunity about how the evil government is suppressing his right to pratice his religion by disallowing religious displays on public government land, banning prayer in public schools and stopping public taxpayer monies to be given to parochial schools. Anti choice, pro gun, religious right wing politicians don't win statewide races in New Jersey. Bret is McGreevey's savior. : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Abby Hoffman posted Message 3422 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 15, 2004 at 00:04:40 Subject: Re: Now That's A Stretch : I mean that "Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?" translates into "You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." : Hang around here and you'll learn all sorts of stuff. That's an incredible leap. I am assuming you are pulling someone's chain with that theory. Hey did you know that if you play "Blonde on Blonde" backwards at 33 speed you hear the actual voice of Jesus telling us that Glenn Cunningham is his 3rd cousin. On his mother's side. : : : In the song, Bob Dylan rephrases the New Testament in contemporary English. : : Thats one of the most ludicrous things I've ever heard. "Johnny's in the basement mixing up the medicine. Im on the pavement thinking bout the government". Where's that from, Luke? And remember he's a Zimmerman. No new Testament. Take the pseudo-intellectual act on the road. "Don't follow leaders watch the parking meters". Hey bub, ITS A SONG! Geeez. : : : : :What are you babbling about? Now Bobby Dylan, he I understand. : : : : : . . . : : : : : When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is. 55 And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass. 56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? : : : : : . . . : : : : : : : What happened to SAVE THE LOWES. Y'er still usin' all the rest of the same creased up sheet of talkin' points, why not drag that one out with the rest. : : : : : : : Remember the little thing about a cloud a longways off -- no bigger than a hand. . . that's where the Weatherman got their name. : : : : : : The Weathermen got their name from the famous Bob Dylan song. "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." Gotta agree with the goes around comes around thing too. Less than a year to go. : : : : : : : : : Are the same 2 shows being aired on every cable system or only on Comcast in Jersey City? : : : : : : : : : Were public funds used to produce the show? : : : : : : : : : An' I realize that you have an attention span of a gnat, but the my reply was to a post statin' that only Hudson GOP and Reform Democrat material is on the shelf here. HCDO is too good for GET NJ, OK. . . BUT DON'T WHINE THAT YA' AIN'T GETTIN' A FAIR SHAKE!!!! : : : : : : : : : : : Congressman Menendez produces a TV show: Report to the People. Strangely enough -- in Jersey City at any rate -- the same two shows have been airing over and over again each week. And at least one dates from the Clinton era. : : : : : : : : : : : I asked the Menendez people about this. They told me that there were a number of current shows. I requested that they send copies to be considered for posting on the Internet. They even asked what size tape I'd like. : : : : : : : : : : : I never received anything. Why would a public official not want his own show distributed? I also have to wonder if public funds were used to produce the video. If that's the case, does the Menendez group even have the right to refuse to supply tapes? : : : : : : : : : : : When I first established this Board, I made many requests for information. Someone in Congressman Menendez's Jersey City office told me to "read the Jersey Journal." Someone connected with the HCDO told me that they would only send me (public) information if I'd agree to remove postings by the Cunningham side. More recently, someone in Rothman's NJ office stated that the Congressman doesn't send out press releases. I called his Washington office. They said that they'd get back to me. Unfortunately, cobwebs are growing on the phone! : : : : : : : : : : No one with any legitimacy would ever post anything of importance on this bathroom wall. Its the Urban Times newz of the internet.You can get fleas just reading it. : : : : : : : : Since the Hudson GOP and the RDO are both Cunningham puppet organizations the point is only a low life like him (and you) would post in this urinal. You miss a point here Anthony, you are encouraging others to post the same slime your side does. You say if we do you'll permit it. The point is no one can stoop as low as you and Glazer and Cardwell and Jackson et.al..Some of us see lines we won't cross, you don't. And you provide the wall for these obscenities. Goes around comes around Anth'y, and its a comin'. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3423 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 15, 2004 at 05:23:43 Subject: Sudan and Gum Arabic A Tree That Supported Sudan Becomes a War's Latest Victim By MARC LACEY New York Times Published: May 15, 2004 . . . Since 1997, the United States has had economic sanctions in place against Sudan to protest the country's links to terrorists. But because gum arabic is so rare, it has been quietly exempted at the urging of American business leaders. Sudan provides more than two-thirds of the world's supply of gum arabic, and the colorless, tasteless resin collected here is considered top quality. The problem now in South Darfur, a gum-producing region where the violence has displaced more than a million people, is that the poor agriculturalists who usually collect the resin from the acacia trees that produce it have been too scared to venture out. In addition, the acacia trees are being cut down in large numbers by displaced villagers in need of wood. "It's a big problem," said Mohammed al-Hassan Ali, the government forestry manager in South Darfur. "Last year's harvest was down and we're very worried about this year's harvest." Production of the valuable gum fell about 60 percent in the season that just ended, primarily a result of locusts and too little rain, industry leaders say. But the insecurity is only compounding the problem, they say. The low supply means the many companies that rely on Sudanese gum for their products, like Coca-Cola and Pfizer, are paying considerably higher prices for it. "We've seen reduced availability and higher pricing," said Chris Berliner, vice president of the Importers Service Company in Jersey City, which imports Sudanese gum arabic, processes it and sells it. "It's dramatic — more than 100 percent more expensive." . . . See the Link for the complete article. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3424 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 15, 2004 at 05:38:54 Subject: Where's Holden Caulfield Seems just yesterday the HCDO figgered on Bret pulling their fat outta the fire in Jersey City. Just a couple of months back, the 595 crew were in high gear heapin' praise on Schundler. Walkin' to Journal Square'd take me all day with one character after another stoppin' me to crow how they'd talk'd Schundler into runnin' for them. And any which ways, don't waste yer time trying to prop up that VILE FRAUD Jim McGreevey. Instead, start tryin' to figger whose actually gonna be the Democrat runnin' for Governor so that ya' can climb up onta a ship that's sailin' outta the harbor, not stuck in the mud. And whiles we is on the subject, do a Google search on "vile fraud" and see what that wonder of the Invisible World reveals. : As bad as the hypocritical Catholic bishops are the born again religious right. Like that famous fighter for religious freedom Bret Schundler. : Save me from sanctimonious politiicans. Not only is Bret wrong on the issue of choice, Bret takes every chance he can to invoke the name of the Lord (like that loser Glenn Cunningham). Whining at every opportunity about how the evil government is suppressing his right to pratice his religion by disallowing religious displays on public government land, banning prayer in public schools and stopping public taxpayer monies to be given to parochial schools. : Anti choice, pro gun, religious right wing politicians don't win statewide races in New Jersey. Bret is McGreevey's savior. : : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 3425 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 15, 2004 at 08:37:59 Subject: HCRDC Warriors Come Out To Play HCRDC Warriors Come Out To Play Urban Times News May 7, 2004 – May 13, 2004 By UTN Staff On another evening brimming with the anticipation of things to come, a diverse group of supporters cobbled from districts crossing Jersey City to Bayonne united at the picturesque Casino In the Park in Jersey City's Lincoln Park on Tuesday night. Political exchange and camaraderie were the order of the evening, but there was no shortage of strategy as the party that bore Mayor Glenn Cunningham to electoral victory made clear its intentions for ushering in a new electoral order. Hudson County Reform Democratic Committee Chairperson Willie Flood introduced the HCRDC Ward leaders. These individuals will lead efforts to garner signatures and ensure that people are registered, willing, and able to vote. For Ward A: Darryl Laval and Daniel Ponte For Ward B: Mike Manzo and Mary Ann Spinella For Ward C: Jimmy King and Rosalie D'Alesandro For Ward D: Maureen Cochran and Peter Baron For Ward E: Frank Lorenzo, Carmen Mindiola, and Gary Nye For Ward F: Inez Anderson and Moses Ballon Jr. With these introductions and brief comments from Jersey City first lady, Sandra Bolden- Cunningham, Mayor Cunningham humbly stepped to the podium. The Mayor opened by thanking his wife and the advisors instrumental in helping with his campaign. Then he recognized the HCRDC itself. "This organization is what Hudson County is really all about. I want to thank you all because none of us (elected officials) get any-where without standing on your shoulders. Thank you very much for the wonderful assistance you have given us. Following up, the Mayor described committee leaders and workers "as the most important men and women in the room," and lauded the contribution of the ward leaders and committee members as the key to defeating big bad Bob Menendez. "Bob Menendez always wins elections and you know why, because no one ever runs against him. He has never been challenged. He's never had a threat. With your help we KNOW we can beat him!" Mayor Cunningham also recognized other officials in attendance who support the HCRDC effort and candidates including: Congressman Bill O'Dea, Councilman Steve Lipski, Councilwoman Viola Richardson, Assemblymen Tony Chiapone and Lou Manzo, former Jersey City Mayor Jerry McCann, and former HCRDC candidate, now potentially independent Congressional candidate Reverend Edward Allen. Applause lingered heartily before the premier political leader of the gold coast, enthusiastically introduced the three exciting candidates for the HCRDC primary ballot. He first called out the Congressional candidate for the 13th district - Steve Fulop. "We've found a young man who went to Iraq, who volunteered to go over there, and to try to bring democracy to Baghdad. Now he is back, and he wants to do here what he went to do for the Iraqi people, bring democracy back to Jersey City, by the people and for the people. We are going to send a message to Washington that this is the kind of man we want representing us, not the kind that threatens and intimidates or bullies people or spends millions of dollars trying to stop good, people as candidates for office. If he helped stopped Sadaam Hussein in Iraq, he can help stop Bob Menendez in New Jersey - Steve Fulop ladies and gentlemen." The unassuming Fulop was talking intently with interested constituents when asked to step to the stage. Surprised and with nothing prepared, he spoke briefly from the heart, engaging the crowd with his intensity and sincerity. "I'm kind of on the spot here right now, so I'll tell you the same thing you will hear when you see me out knocking on people's doors or campaigning - the idea that our country is based on democracy. I believe in the American dream. Not the American dream in the sense of we're all going to get rich, we all know that's not true, but the idea that in this country people have a choice. The people who live in Hudson County haven't had that choice for a very very long time so with all my abilities, I'm going to fight to change that." Fulop surprised the crowd by soliciting a show of not just supporter but believer hands. By a show of hands, how many people in this room truly believe we can beat Bob Menenedez. He seemed sure, patiently waiting for a moment as the audience looked around. Fulop beamed with the confidence of a pinned soldier seeing his troops come over the hill. Hundreds of hands popped up from quiet laps and busy tables. "That's good because I believe we can win too. And I believe with your help we'll make a difference. We can beat Bob Menendez in the primary and we can make a difference in Hudson County. Thank you." The Mayor returned to introduce another HCRDC hero/candidate. "This young man was a former officer of the West New York police force. He lost his job, he was fired, for helping federal authorities expose corruption in the precinct. Because of this man, the most far-reaching corruption ring in the city's history was exposed and numerous corrupt officers and detectives were dismissed. I'd like him to come up and say a few words, Richie!" the Mayor called, introducing HCRDC candidate for Sheriff Richard Rivera "I was born and raised in this county. I've worked on elections since I was twelve or thirteen years old. I've seen what is out there. I've fought the machine. I've fought the corruption. I have fought he guy who is now sitting in an Assembly seat (Assemblyman Richard Cassidy) and just like Humpty Dumpty he'll have a great fall. We're going to run a tough hard campaign with professionalism and integrity. That's why I can trust this team and that's why this team can trust me. Thank you very much." As the Mayor called for some words from the Reverend Edward Allen, he jokingly alluded to his being successfully removed from the ballot by Menendez forces in his campaign against congressional cohort Donald Payne. "Before the reverend speaks I'd like to present him like any good warrior with our own version of the purple heart. He is wounded but not down." The reverend addressed the crowd humbly but confidently. "It is important that we understand that victory will be ours because we do not quit, and we do not give in. I am grateful to the Mayor and the Senator for asking me to be a part of the Reform team. We took some blows, but in the process we understand more about our opponent. We understand that he is scared; we understand that he is weak; we understand that he is tired. And the truth is that Jersey City deserves better representation in the 13th district, in the 10th district and we're going to bring better representation. Donald Payne made a big mistake. He's better off facing me in the democratic primary." The reverend and committee officials have filed a lawsuit appealing the decision to remove Allen from the ballot, but their plan B seems a more productive alternative. "...we have already resolved that we will run as an independent if our lawsuit fails ... now Donald Payne must face a republican and an independent Democrat in the general election for the seat he has poorly represented. So with your help we're going to send a message to the presidential candidate that the Hudson County Democratic party is taking us for granted and we won't allow Mr. Kerry to take us for granted because Jersey City is too important in the proposition of winning the state of New Jersey, and so together we will make a major difference in how the Democratic party looks at our Mayor and our Senator and our affiliate representatives and we're going to let them know that Jersey City cannot be taken for granted. And when we win we are going to go back (to Washington) and have Jersey City reassessed. The gerrymandered congressional district has the second largest city in the state divided into three congressional areas - all about weakening your vote, weakening your influence, and poorly representing us. So together under the leadership of our Mayor and our Senator, the honorable Glenn D. Cunningham we will be victorious in June and go on to win in November. God bless." Assemblyman Lou Manzo spoke, referencing his own battles as part of the ticket for Senator Cunningham and Assemblyman Chiapone. "When we started I said, the other party would begin their campaign in the gutter and end there, and we were right, but apparently it never died there. This party is making great strides, and this year is another battle. . You can see the other mayors in this county are looking at our leadership and looking at the leadership of the other party and they are making a comparison between Mayor Cunningham and Bob Menendez. And Let me tell you something, Mayor Cunningham is going to come out on top in this battle, because as he (the Mayor) always says, the truth crushed to the ground shall rise again, and the truth of this party will keep marching on. This county has gotten less aid back in federal money in proportion to the rest of the country than ever before in its history, and I say to you Congressman Menendez, do for the rest of this county what you do for Scarinski and Lukazi" (the Assemblyman refers to). Tell the Congressman that Jersey City has had enough under his thumb under his bullying tactics and under his despotism." Assemblyman Chiapone also spoke, citing the similarities to last year. "Where is democracy when you find every way you can to eliminate the competition. It's going to backfire for them in November. People start to look at these people for what they are - that they use intimidation that they don't want competition. We made a statement last year and we're going to make a statement in June and then November. I'm proud to be associated with Cunningham and Manzo. I want you to be proud of us as we are of you, and come out and support us in the June primaries." The Mayor introduced the party candidate for County Surrogate - John Caulfield. A man of few words, this Jersey City attorney was among the HCRDC victorious when the machine challenged Reform candidates in the last election, and is not surprised by their tactics now. "When I came on the ballot for this election, they challenged my candidacy saying it was invalid because I was not a resident of Jersey City. I was born in Margaret Hague Hospital, I went to St. Peter's Prep and attended St. Peter's College. If I'm not a resident of Jersey City then I'm not a resident of the United States. I am very happy to be on the ballot and to be a part of this team and I promise to do my best once elected. Thank you." Jersey City Councilman Steve Lipski also spoke. A defector from the Hudson County Democrat Committee, Lipski bases his newfound loyalty on a growing displeasure with the outside influences affecting Jersey City. He cites a Tip O'Neil quote, 'All politics is local," With impassioned fervor, he continued, "Look around ladies and gentlemen this is a Jersey City and Hudson County crowd, not out-of-towners trying to come in and tell us our business. And I believe that this June we will be able to win three congressional districts with representation from Jersey City. Why I am working with the Mayor? The first sticks are coming out of the ground at the old State Theater site, you drive down Martin Luther King, you see libraries coming up, you see houses being built, you see reinvestment in our city and our community, and that's why we have to get behind the leadership of Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham and next June make sure that these candidates win. Thank you very much, God bless you, and God bless Jersey City." The Mayor reflected that the administration is doing all the work it is doing in Jersey City with seven of the nine council people against them. "It begs the question, what have they done except wait to see what I bring down so they can criticize it or tear it apart, but we're doing it in Jersey City and Bayonne, the two greatest cities in the state. While Councilwoman Viola Richardson would not speak, the Mayor insisted she stand to be recognized, describing her as the other woman in his life that supports and encourages him through the hard political times. The crowd enthusiastically agreed with rousing applause. As the evening faded, doling handshakes and business cards became the official activity. As the music started, promising further fun and enjoyment, the majority of folks reluctantly marched to their cars and retrieved their coats. Like the uplifting feeling of a down home revival meeting, attendees left fullof hope, happiness and expectation. The warriors came out to play, but now fun and games were over. The troops were dismissed. There is work to be done. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sudan Gum Arabic Producers posted Message 3426 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 15, 2004 at 10:46:42 Subject: Scarinci's Law Firm Represents : A Tree That Supported Sudan Becomes a War's Latest Victim : By MARC LACEY : New York Times : Published: May 15, 2004 : . . . : Since 1997, the United States has had economic sanctions in place against Sudan to protest the country's links to terrorists. But because gum arabic is so rare, it has been quietly exempted at the urging of American business leaders. Sudan provides more than two-thirds of the world's supply of gum arabic, and the colorless, tasteless resin collected here is considered top quality. : The problem now in South Darfur, a gum-producing region where the violence has displaced more than a million people, is that the poor agriculturalists who usually collect the resin from the acacia trees that produce it have been too scared to venture out. In addition, the acacia trees are being cut down in large numbers by displaced villagers in need of wood. : "It's a big problem," said Mohammed al-Hassan Ali, the government forestry manager in South Darfur. "Last year's harvest was down and we're very worried about this year's harvest." : Production of the valuable gum fell about 60 percent in the season that just ended, primarily a result of locusts and too little rain, industry leaders say. But the insecurity is only compounding the problem, they say. : The low supply means the many companies that rely on Sudanese gum for their products, like Coca-Cola and Pfizer, are paying considerably higher prices for it. : "We've seen reduced availability and higher pricing," said Chris Berliner, vice president of the Importers Service Company in Jersey City, which imports Sudanese gum arabic, processes it and sells it. "It's dramatic — more than 100 percent more expensive." : . . . : See the Link for the complete article. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor X-Ray posted Message 3427 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 15, 2004 at 11:06:21 Subject: Why does the Conman Cunningham hire Political"Gofers" JCIA is full of them.Is this why JC is so dirty and filty? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim posted Message 3428 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 15, 2004 at 19:32:08 Subject: Re: Congratulations Senator Kenny : Funny thing, as long as the Catholic Church put up with the 2-faced, it was SIMPLY MARVELOUS. Every other word out of Jimmy Mac was about having breakfast with the Monsignor. : Now that the Church got fed up wih the phonies, we keep hearing about dens of pedophiles and misogynists. Why didn't youse guys speak up before? : Again, I think that Senator Kenny is doing the correct thing here. But the shills (the guy with the toupe is leadin' the pack) oughta get a grip on their lips! The Church is a private club. You don't like the rules, take a walk. : : I would like to praise Senator Kenny for his courageous decision to pursue his faith outside the construct of the corrupt and hypocritial Roman Catholic Church. : : It is laughable for these bishops to try to strongarm Catholic politicians by witholding the Churchs' sacraments. These bishops, who obstructed justice by hiding pedophile priests and concealing evidence key to law enforcement investigations, can simply no longer claim the moral high ground. : : They threaten to withold the Churchs' grace from those who support a woman's right to choose while turning a blind eye to others who support the death penalty. They propagate the myth that condoms cannot prevent sexually transmitted diseases like HIV and compound the AIDS crisi throught the world. They discriminate againt women by refusing them entry into the priesthood. : : The Catholic Church is anachronistic, anti-woman, homophobic and simply out of touch with the realities of the world. It is not surprising that people are leaving the church in droves and priests no longer can be recruited. Wouldn't want to be any of the church hierarchy when they have to face " THE CREATOR " and have to explain why they stated someone should not recieve Holy Communion. Think thats some thing between a person and Christ. Ask two priests a question as to wether a person who is divorced should be allowed to recieve before having their marriage of 30 years annulled . I am sure you will get conflicting answers. If we wait for a politician who agrees on everything the Catholic Church stands for it might be a while before we ever have another Catholic politician. Oh... one more thing. Why is this an issue right now??????? Didn't Govenor and Senator have these feelings a while ago. Tough to play GOD when your human. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3429 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 16, 2004 at 08:14:10 Subject: Taxpayers worse nightmare-Ward D Club Piucture Look at the picture,how many are on the Conmans City Payroll?Wait till the JCHA & JCIA,investigation hits the fan.ABC is still in effect.One year to go to be Free of the Conman And gang. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blackballed by Kenny Mennedez posted Message 3430 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 16, 2004 at 11:11:27 Subject: Lovely Nancy Looking For Job ? LOOK AT YOUR LIFE TOM - GO ENJOY THE AVON BEACH - GO TO THE SHORELINE WALK IN AND KEEP ON WALKIN...... YOUR PARTY IS OVER ! FACE IT . LOVELY NANCY CAN GET HIRED OR HA SHE BEEN ? Last I heard shw took in sewing for Mr.King. Look at the picture,how many are on the Conmans City Payroll?Wait till the JCHA & JCIA,investigation hits the fan.ABC is still in effect.One year to go to be Free of the Conman And gang. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3431 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 16, 2004 at 13:23:46 Subject: Online Video: Vice-President Menendez? Robert Menendez speaks concerning the importance of Hispanic voters to the presidential aspirations of John Kerry. The Host, John McLaughlin, asks Robert Menendez about the possibility of the Congressman being the candidate for Vice President. To view the Online video, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val aint a Gal posted Message 3432 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 16, 2004 at 19:20:27 Subject: Re: Taxpayers worse nightmare-Ward D Club Piucture : Look at the picture,how many are on the Conmans City Payroll? I'm jealous it should be me. Me!Tom Gaynor - ABC still means - Always Been Crazy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ask Chris Christie posted Message 3433 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 16, 2004 at 20:02:26 Subject: Never In A Milllion Years : Robert Menendez speaks concerning the importance of Hispanic voters to the presidential aspirations of John Kerry. : The Host, John McLaughlin, asks Robert Menendez about the possibility of the Congressman being the candidate for Vice President. : To view the Online video, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** lol posted Message 3434 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 16, 2004 at 20:24:59 Subject: Re: Taxpayers worse nightmare-Ward D Club Piucture LMAO I'm anti Cuningham but, that was funny! POOR TOM ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3435 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 17, 2004 at 07:13:55 Subject: Ward C & Ward D "gofer "Clubs-Conman Patrol Conman Cunningham wants to know why these two clubs cant come up with better scams on the jersey city taxpayers. He saids he cant rely on" Bad deals" Munley forever. The inside boys are getting nerious.2005 WE WILL BE Conman Cunningham Free. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor X-Ray posted Message 3436 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 17, 2004 at 07:39:55 Subject: I saw Tom Gaynor on the Avon Beach Yesterday He sure looks and acts extremely happy to be away from the Conman And his Gang.He may be gone but not forgotten.He saids "He hopes that Jersey City will be Conman Free in 2005".Lets Hope so. ***************** End Of Article ****************** And Umbrella Hat posted Message 3437 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 17, 2004 at 11:02:34 Subject: Wearing A Thong : He sure looks and acts extremely happy to be away from the Conman And his Gang.He may be gone but not forgotten.He saids "He hopes that Jersey City will be Conman Free in 2005".Lets Hope so. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJ Senate Democrats posted Message 3438 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 17, 2004 at 18:07:30 Subject: CUNNINGHAM ON PROPERTY TAX REFORM: "REMEMBER THE CHILDREN" FOR RELEASE: Immediate May 17, 2004 CONTACT: Kelley Heck Tel: (609) 292-5215 CUNNINGHAM ON PROPERTY TAX REFORM: "REMEMBER THE CHILDREN" Senator Says 50th Anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education 'Another Glaring Example' of Need for Education Reform TRENTON - Senator Glenn D. Cunningham, D-Jersey City, urged Governor McGreevey and state lawmakers today to consider the educational needs of New Jersey's children as the State moves forward on property tax reform. "As Americans throughout the nation celebrate the landmark decision of Brown v. Board of Education, I look on this day with mixed emotions," said Senator Cunningham. "While I am thankful that the Brown decision made racial segregation in our nation's schools unconstitutional, I am deeply troubled by how little has changed in the 50 years since the decision. In reality, New Jersey schools are still segregated and, in reality, many children in our State are still receiving a separate and unequal education." Senator Cunningham said the 50th anniversary of the Brown decision and recent reports of segregation in New Jersey schools are another glaring example of the need for change and should remind lawmakers to make New Jersey children and education reform a major objective of any local tax reform efforts. "No one disagrees that we have a serious local tax problem on our hands in New Jersey, and we are moving forward with significant reform efforts" said the Senator. "However, local tax reform is not just about tax relief. It is also about making things right in New Jersey classrooms for all pupils in our state." "Today's anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education is yet another glaring example of New Jersey's need for education reform," said Senator Cunningham. "As mayor and a lifelong resident of Jersey City, a city in which the overwhelming majority of public school students are minorities, I have witnessed the educational inequities of our State first-hand. As we move forward in reforming our local tax and school financing structures, we must put the children first." Senator Cunningham said regionalization of New Jersey schools and a closer look at the State education formula are also needed to help fight segregation. The senator has sponsored legislation to restructure the way in which New Jersey schools are funded, something he said is critically needed before any real education reform can be achieved. "Looking back on May 17, 1954, I recalled the reactions of my family, particularly my mother's rejoicing at the notion that I would have the opportunity to attend integrated schools with children of all races," said the senator. "For many families, the Brown decision symbolized the ending of an era that tolerated inequity and in which race was used to predetermine the quality of life one was afforded." "Fifty years later, we should be further along in implementing the ideals of the Brown decision. Fifty years later, we should be focusing on securing equitable resources to educate the future of our state," added the senator. ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Ix-Nay posted Message 3439 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 17, 2004 at 18:30:41 Subject: Re: I saw Tom Gaynor on the Avon Beach Yesterday : He sure looks and acts extremely happy.His mind is gone.He saids "He hopes that Jersey City will be Gaynor Free in 2005".Lets Hope so. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3440 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 17, 2004 at 19:11:22 Subject: Re: Ward C & Ward D "gofer "Clubs-Snooze Patrol : Gaynor wants to know why these two clubs cant come up with better scams for him on the jersey city taxpayers. He saids he cant rely on" Bad jokes" forever. The inside boys are getting nerious.2005 WE WILL BE Gaynor Free. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor MRI posted Message 3441 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 17, 2004 at 21:14:10 Subject: Re: I saw Tom Gaynor on the Avon Beach Yesterday : He sure looks and acts extremely happy to be away from the Conman And his Gang.He may be gone but not forgotten.He saids "He hopes that Jersey City will be Conman Free in 2005".Lets Hope so. I Saw the kids yesterday running from the beach, screaming shark, shark, and their was tom the shark scarcing the public down the shore as he does here in jersey city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** right thing posted Message 3442 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 17, 2004 at 21:37:37 Subject: bernie kenny quiting the cathlic church Bernie Kenny may or may not have done the right thing, it's between him and god. but what really bothered me by Kenny he published it... like if he is sometype of a hero. Well mr. Kenny i have 2 words for your morals. STICK IT !!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GRAND JURY posted Message 3443 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 17, 2004 at 21:59:04 Subject: Much Stronger Words Bernie's bizzare actions have reason to their crazy rhyme. Bernie knows that the show will soon be over. Senator/HCDO Chairman/Majority Leader knows exactly what I am talking about. To those not so informed - don't ever forget Bernard Kenny Esq. is Joe Barry's & The Applied Companies hired Attorney. Do you want me to draw a picture ? Remember Bernie .....Like Sands in the Hour Glass........ : Bernie Kenny may or may not have done the right thing, it's between him and god. but what really bothered me by Kenny he published it... like if he is sometype of a hero. Well mr. Kenny i have 2 words for your morals. STICK IT !!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3444 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 18, 2004 at 07:06:05 Subject: Finance 101 for the Conman Cunningham McCann told Cunningham that 2+2=4.Now he understands,Jeresy City may still be saved from Financial ruin.Lets hope so for all our sakes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3445 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 18, 2004 at 07:16:40 Subject: Jersey Journal: McCann answers Gaughan's claims with some of his own McCann answers Gaughan's claims with some of his own He says councilman violated zoning laws Tuesday, May 18, 2004 By Maria Zingaro Conte . . . "That could be criminal, defrauding the taxpayers," McCann said in an interview. "An average citizen could argue that they didn't know but (Gaughan) can't have that excuse." McCann said the property also has an unapproved curb cut providing access to a driveway into the funeral home's parking lot. That lot has also been improperly expanded, McCann said. Neither the curb cut nor the parking lot change had been approved by the planning board, according to McCann. The discrepancies prompted McCann to request that zoning officials be sent to investigate the house. . . . Responding to the charges, Gaughan said the house in question is in compliance with all zoning regulations. "It's a legal two-family house," he said. "There are two families living there." The councilman said he bought the house in 1979 from a doctor who used the first floor as his office and lived in the apartment above . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3446 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 18, 2004 at 07:24:36 Subject: Jersey Journal: O'Dea raps lack of detail in county spending plan O'Dea raps lack of detail in county spending plan Tuesday, May 18, 2004 By Earl Morgan While the $354.5 million county budget submitted to the freeholder board by County Executive Tom DeGise drew fire from Freeholder Bill O'Dea of Jersey City - who claimed Jersey City faces a $5.7 million increase over last year's levy - the spending plan was introduced by a 6-2 vote. . . . For the complete article, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Assembly Democrats posted Message 3447 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 18, 2004 at 07:40:17 Subject: JOHNSON/MANZO MEASURE EASING SCHEDULING CONFLICTS FOR NATIONAL GUARD & RESERVE MEMBERS CLEARS PANEL JOHNSON/MANZO MEASURE EASING SCHEDULING CONFLICTS FOR NATIONAL GUARD & RESERVE MEMBERS CLEARS PANEL ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3448 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 18, 2004 at 07:51:00 Subject: Jersey City lost a great man In Jack Finn Jersey City will always have a great Void with the Lost of Jack.He truly cared for this City and its people. He will never be replaced.Rest in Peace ,Jack and look after thi city from up above. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3449 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 18, 2004 at 14:50:41 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show, May 17, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3450 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 18, 2004 at 15:42:41 Subject: New Medical Center: Will Nurses Need E.R. Care? As luck would have it, our West Coast correspondent informs us that the parking lot for the nurses is quite a distance from the hospital. Shuttles are supposed to transport the nurses. Unfortunately, a 20 to 30 minute wait is generally to be expected "in a desolate poorly lit parking lot." Here's how one nurse describes the situation: "Imagine, nurses and other staff women. We are bait waiting to be attacked. The Medical Center has been planning this state of the art facility since 1983 and at a price tag of $200 million and parking facilities couldn't be arranged for their nurses. I work evening and nights and this situation is dangerous!!!" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3451 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 18, 2004 at 16:12:15 Subject: White Flight If the schools are segregated in Jersey City, it's because anybody with resources (and kids) has either left the City or enrolled their kids in parochial schools. Under the leadership of people like Glenn Cunningham, the City will continue to spiral downhill. One need only look at the actions of the children at the recent Martin Luther King Parade to realize why the middle class fled Jersey City a long time ago. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3452 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 18, 2004 at 16:15:01 Subject: Same as the old boss Nurses are working people. Corporate medicine, represented by firms like Liberty Healthcare, doesn't care about working people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3453 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 18, 2004 at 16:17:14 Subject: Poor Bill Still standing on his soapbox tilting at windmills. What could have been for Bill. Now he's just a Cunningham lackey in bed with his buddy Gerry McCann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** More to Come posted Message 3454 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 18, 2004 at 20:26:46 Subject: HCDO Assemblyman In Trouble with Law From Politicsnj.com website Assemblyman Anthony Impreveduto confirmed that investigators for the state Attorney General's office visited his home and legislative office last Friday, saying it was in connection to a probe by the New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission. Impreveduto, 56, is the Chairman of the Assembly Regulated Professions and Independent Authorities Committee and the Deputy Speaker. He has has represented Hudson County in Trenton since 1986. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor X Ray posted Message 3455 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 06:52:45 Subject: Why the No Show Jobs for Conman Gang I understand there will be a full scale Investigation of this Taxpayer Rip-Off.JCIA,in a lot of trouble I Understand. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3456 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 07:49:21 Subject: Who is Talking?Stand by Mr Conman. News on the JCHA scams will be breaking soon.It seems someone is telling all to the FEDS ,who are investigation, who knew what at the Jersey City "City Hall.I bet i know who knew What. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The 9-11 Memorial Committee of Jersey City, Inc. posted Message 3457 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 14:46:27 Subject: Memorial Service: 10 a.m.Sunday, May 23, 2004 at the foot of Grand Street The 9-11 Memorial Committee of Jersey City, Inc. P.O. Box 8264, Jersey City, NJ 07308 201-547-5572 Fax: 201-547-5442 JERSEY CITY - The Jersey City 9-11 Memorial Committee is sponsoring a memorial service at 10 a.m., Sunday, May 23, 2004, at the temporary memorial site located at the foot of Grand Street and the Hudson River Waterfront. The service, which will include a mass and speakers, is expected to last for two hours. It is being held the weekend prior to Memorial Day due to the high volume of travelers who will leave town on the holiday weekend. For more information call: Gary Nye (201-547-5211), John Guarini (201-547-4280), or Guy Catrillo (201-547-5011). ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward D Cunningham Club posted Message 3458 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 14:48:31 Subject: Mayor Glenn Cunningham at the Ward D Club – Video and Pictures To view the pictures and Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Ix-Nay posted Message 3459 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 18:07:36 Subject: Re: Why the No Show Jobs for Gaynor Gang : I understand there will be a full scale Investigation of this Taxpayer Rip-Off.Gaynor,in a lot of trouble I Understand. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3460 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 18:13:59 Subject: Re: Who is Talking?Stand by Mr Conman. :I bet i know who knew Whatand where and why which will want us to know who,what,where, and when we wealize what we know we will weadily wrestle with the men in the white waistcoats who will wisk Gaynor away. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3461 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 19:11:37 Subject: Tom Gaynor & Jedsey DiMatteo meeting at the Shore Nurse Betsy,were you at the meeting last night down the shore?If so, how was it?Cunningham free in 2005. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val aint a Gal posted Message 3462 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 21:14:25 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor & Jedsey DiMatteo meeting at the Shore :Betsy is all Wetsy,were you at the meeting last night down the shore?If so, how was it?Gaynor free in 2005. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Memory Lane posted Message 3463 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 21:28:42 Subject: Where have all the flowers gone? When will they ever learn? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3464 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 21:49:09 Subject: A question. The banner up above ... why a 9-11 memorial 0n 5-23 ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weezer posted Message 3465 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 22:02:48 Subject: Re: A question. : The banner up above ... why a 9-11 memorial 0n 5-23 ? Maybe it has something to do with Degise goosing up Janiszewski's bloated budget two years in a row. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kerry Hates Bob M posted Message 3466 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 22:14:27 Subject: Two Liberal Losers : When will they ever learn? ***************** End Of Article ****************** More HCDO Corruption posted Message 3467 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 22:18:13 Subject: What About HCDO Assemblyman Impreveduto ? Try spinning that scandal Kennelly. $ 100,000. On American Express paid by the Campaign Funds. Classic HCDO. AMEX Used in Casinos Out of the Country. All AMEX Records ARE RECORDED - DUH ! : The banner up above ... why a 9-11 memorial 0n 5-23 ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** White Bird posted Message 3468 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 22:20:44 Subject: Re: A question. : The banner up above ... why a 9-11 memorial 0n 5-23 ? No pigeons this time, right Guy? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weezer...been a while glad to see you back..... posted Message 3469 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 19, 2004 at 23:44:41 Subject: Re: A question. NT ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor X-Ray posted Message 3470 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 07:21:04 Subject: Conmans crime plan? When does the conman cunningham give the jersey city taxpayers his crime plan?Remember when he was campaigning with janiszewski.He said he had a crime plan for jc.Iguess he was too busy with his scams and forgot the plan.Free in 2005 FROM THE CONMAN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3471 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 07:40:58 Subject: Re: Where have all the flowers gone? : When will they ever learn? It's clear to me that Dean was trying to turn the election into a repeat of the '64 Johnson-Goldwater race. For those of the youthful sort (or memory-challenged) LBJ ran as the PEACE candidate ("I will send no boys to wage an Asiatic war.") and was able to paint Goldwater as a dangerous war-monger. Johnson promised (and delivered) massive social programs of the FDR sort. Ah, but Johnson was sitting President and did not have to navigate the dangerous primary straits! I wonder if Gov. Dean promised the NJ set similar federal programs for the Megalopolis? That would have been a strong inducement to join the Dean team. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3472 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 07:55:43 Subject: Vacation DAYS FOR THE Conman? This guy works so hard. "joke".Cant we give him a years vacation away from jersey City.The taxpayers of JC could use it.Take "Bad Deals"Munley with him.What a super vacation that would be for Jersey City> ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3473 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 12:55:21 Subject: Pigeons or doves ? I subsequently learned more about this event. Leave it to a weenie like Guy Catrillo to schedule something like this. It's supposed to be a part of the Memorial Day observances .. but we'll have it a week before so we don't intefere with anyone's vacation plans. How lame !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3474 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 12:59:25 Subject: Re: What About HCDO Assemblyman Impreveduto ? Bwahahahahahahahaha !!!! No one can stand against The Empire. You will all be vanquished by the power of the dark side. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3475 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 13:00:28 Subject: Thank you ... for your kind words dear Weezer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** free vacation posted Message 3476 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 13:02:47 Subject: Re: Pigeons or doves ? : I subsequently learned more about this event. Leave it to a weenie like Guy Catrillo to schedule something like this. It's supposed to be a part of the Memorial Day observances .. but we'll have it a week before so we don't intefere with anyone's vacation plans. How lame !!!Conman Cunningham is going on another one of his free vacations.Guy is just doing what they tell him too do.sad but true. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3477 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 13:06:39 Subject: Re: Where have all the flowers gone? The lyrics of this song are very appropriate ... now that Bush has taken us into an unnecesaary war and young American men and women are dying needlessly. Thank you Pete Seeger. Where have all the flowers gone? Long time passing Where have all the flowers gone? Long time ago Where have all the flowers gone? Girls have picked them every one When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn? Where have all the young girls gone? Long time passing Where have all the young girls gone? Long time ago Where have all the young girls gone? Taken husbands every one When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn? Where have all the young men gone? Long time passing Where have all the young men gone? Long time ago Where have all the young men gone? Gone for soldiers every one When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn? Where have all the soldiers gone? Long time passing Where have all the soldiers gone? Long time ago Where have all the soldiers gone? Gone to graveyards every one When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn? Where have all the graveyards gone? Long time passing Where have all the graveyards gone? Long time ago Where have all the graveyards gone? Covered with flowers every one When will we ever learn? When will we ever learn? ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJ Senate Democrats posted Message 3478 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 16:17:22 Subject: CUNNINGHAM BILL WOULD INCREASE MEMBERSHIP OF AMISTAD COMMISSION FOR RELEASE: Immediate May 20, 2004 CONTACT: Cara Noel Tel: (609) 292-5215 TRENTON - A bill sponsored by Senator Glenn D. Cunningham that would increase the membership of the Amistad Commission from 19 to 23 members was approved today by the Senate. "The Amistad Commission was designed to focus on the valuable contributions of African Americans," said Senator Cunningham, D-Hudson. "It is only fitting that the Commission include members who are actively involved in the law-making process." The Amistad Commission was established to recognize the history of African Americans in the United States and to incorporate this history into school curriculums. According to the bill, S-1159, the four new members of the Commission would be two Senators and two members of the Assembly. Currently, the Amistad Commission consists of 19 members, including representatives of the Secretary of State, Commissioner of Education and the executive board of the Presidents Council. Of the 19 members, there are 16 public members who have interest in African American history. The Amistad Commission was named for a group of enslaved Africans who overthrew the crew of the Amistad, the vessel that was transporting them. The vessel anchored off the coast of Long Island, NY and the African passengers were put on trial. The case was argued by the Supreme Court, who granted the passengers their freedom. This measure now heads to the Governor. ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** Big Deal posted Message 3479 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 17:30:06 Subject: Re: CUNNINGHAM BILL WOULD INCREASE MEMBERSHIP OF AMISTAD COMMISSION Please tell me Conman Cunningham will do something of substance in Trenton other than get meaningless Bills passed so that he can send out press releases saying he's doing somthing. Just another double-dipping dipstick like Sharp James. : FOR RELEASE: Immediate : May 20, 2004 : : CONTACT: Cara Noel : Tel: (609) 292-5215 : TRENTON - A bill sponsored by Senator Glenn D. Cunningham that would increase the membership of the Amistad Commission from 19 to 23 members was approved today by the Senate. : "The Amistad Commission was designed to focus on the valuable contributions of African Americans," said Senator Cunningham, D-Hudson. "It is only fitting that the Commission include members who are actively involved in the law-making process." : The Amistad Commission was established to recognize the history of African Americans in the United States and to incorporate this history into school curriculums. : According to the bill, S-1159, the four new members of the Commission would be two Senators and two members of the Assembly. Currently, the Amistad Commission consists of 19 members, including representatives of the Secretary of State, Commissioner of Education and the executive board of the Presidents Council. Of the 19 members, there are 16 public members who have interest in African American history. : The Amistad Commission was named for a group of enslaved Africans who overthrew the crew of the Amistad, the vessel that was transporting them. The vessel anchored off the coast of Long Island, NY and the African passengers were put on trial. The case was argued by the Supreme Court, who granted the passengers their freedom. : This measure now heads to the Governor. : ### : ***************** End Of Article ****************** over ten years now posted Message 3480 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 18:24:16 Subject: FOL, Fonies of the Loews Colin, when are you going to account for how all the money got spent? For many mayors and council now the city been spending on you with no benefit to show for it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Ix-Nay posted Message 3481 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 22:43:51 Subject: Re: Conmans crime plan? : When does the conman Gaynor give the jersey city taxpayers his crime plan?Remember when he was campaigning with JudgeCrater.He said he had a crime plan for jc.Iguess he was too busy with his scams and forgot the plan.Free in 2005 FROM Gaynor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3482 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 22:46:40 Subject: Re: Vacation DAYS FOR THE Conman? : Gaynor works so hard. "joke".Cant we give him a years vacation away from jersey City.The taxpayers of JC could use it.Take "Bad Jokes" with him.What a super vacation that would be for Jersey City> ***************** End Of Article ****************** I saw the movie posted Message 3483 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 20, 2004 at 23:10:23 Subject: It su(ked : Please tell me Conman Cunningham will do something of substance in Trenton other than get meaningless Bills passed so that he can send out press releases saying he's doing somthing. Just another double-dipping dipstick like Sharp James. : : : FOR RELEASE: Immediate : : May 20, 2004 : : : : CONTACT: Cara Noel : : Tel: (609) 292-5215 : : TRENTON - A bill sponsored by Senator Glenn D. Cunningham that would increase the membership of the Amistad Commission from 19 to 23 members was approved today by the Senate. : : "The Amistad Commission was designed to focus on the valuable contributions of African Americans," said Senator Cunningham, D-Hudson. "It is only fitting that the Commission include members who are actively involved in the law-making process." : : The Amistad Commission was established to recognize the history of African Americans in the United States and to incorporate this history into school curriculums. : : According to the bill, S-1159, the four new members of the Commission would be two Senators and two members of the Assembly. Currently, the Amistad Commission consists of 19 members, including representatives of the Secretary of State, Commissioner of Education and the executive board of the Presidents Council. Of the 19 members, there are 16 public members who have interest in African American history. : : The Amistad Commission was named for a group of enslaved Africans who overthrew the crew of the Amistad, the vessel that was transporting them. The vessel anchored off the coast of Long Island, NY and the African passengers were put on trial. The case was argued by the Supreme Court, who granted the passengers their freedom. : : This measure now heads to the Governor. : : ### : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** REV. WARREN SIMS Jersey City posted Message 3484 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 21, 2004 at 08:41:22 Subject: Shame on you, Mr. Mayor. Shame on you! Shame on you, Mr. Mayor. Shame on you! As a concerned citizen, I pay close attention to politician's "campaign rhetoric" and I watch their actions after they take office. During all of his campaigning, Mayor Cunningham spent a considerable amount of hard cash and a considerable amount of personal energy cashing in on his "badge" as a former U.S. marshal, touting his law enforcement experience. However, close examination of Mayor Cunningham's law enforcement actions since he became mayor clearly demonstrates that he has been woefully negligent in enforcing some of the laws of Jersey City. For example, a law called "First Source" has been on the books of Jersey City for years. The First Source law requires government, businesses and private developers to hire locals first in Jersey City. Certainly, the mayor would be expected to hire locals on city jobs, especially a directorship that pays $150,000 a year, plus $5,000 in law school tuition and other lucrative increments. Considering how politics really work, Mr. Troy E. Washington could not have gotten, and would not have gotten, the directorship of the Jersey City Housing Authority without the expressed approval of Mayor Cunningham. Mr. Washington is an outsider from Hoboken. To add insult to injury, Mr. Washington was allowed to transplant 13 of his cronies to Jersey City and pay them higher salaries. Furthermore, Mr. Washington was allowed to arbitrarily fire Ms. Sandra Robinson, who had faithfully served the agency for approximately 22 years, and she was only two years from retirement and her husband suffers from cancer. No one deserves that kind of ill-treatment, no one! Within the first 35 days as director of JCHA, Mr. Washington squandered in excess of $1 million of JCHA funds on elaborate and unnecessary expenditures. Again, considering how politics really work, one would have to stretch the imagination to its outer limits to believe or assume that Mayor Cunningham was totally unaware of expenditures of this magnitude, by one person, over such a short period of time. "Shame on you, Mr. Law and Order." According to published reports, when the City Council learned of Mr. Washington's colossal abuses, a memo was sent to Mayor Cunningham requesting an investigation and the removal of Mr. Washington. Mr. Stan Eason, Mayor Cunningham's spokesman, responded to the City Council's memo as follows: "We have no knowledge of any wrong-doing by Mr. Washington and Mr. Washington denies all allegations; but if we need a sheriff, we will call Mr. (L. Harvey) Smith." What does that have to do with the cost of tea in China? "Shame on you, Mr. Mayor, shame on you." Mayor Cunningham either knew or should have known of abuses of this magnitude within his administration. If Mayor Cunningham did not know of Mr. Washington's colossal abuses, he certainly was not doing the job he was hired to do. He is not protecting the taxpayers of Jersey City against predators like Mr. Washington; and he did not follow the First Source Law, which called for his approval of an able local person for the directorship of the JCHA. Shame on you, Mr. Mayor. I assume, since Mayor Cunningham is now a state senator, he will know even less about how public funds are spent in Jersey City, and he can be expected to do even less about abuses than he did in the case of Mr. Troy E. Washington. Shame on you, Mr. Mayor! This concerned citizen will not be duped into voting for you again. Have you no shame? You have disappointed all of us who were with you from the beginning. REV. WARREN SIMS Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJDPM posted Message 3485 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 21, 2004 at 14:42:05 Subject: Dismantling the Death Penalty - Sat., May 22, 10am to 2pm, Grace Church Van Vorst, 39 Erie St, Jersey City The death penalty remains a hot topic in New Jersey. The event listed below was organized by supporting organizations around the state with help from NJDPM. Please make every effort to attend. If you are a member of an organization, community group, or house of worship that may be interested in hosting a death penalty informational event, NJDPM can provide speakers at no charge. Just send an email to celeste@njmoratorium.org In peace, Celeste Sat., May 22, 10am to 2pm, Grace Church Van Vorst, 39 Erie St, Jersey City Dismantling the Death Penalty - Presentations and Actions This event is aimed to raise awareness of the death penalty in New Jersey and provide an action plan to assist concerned citizens to help replace capital punishment with life without parole. Featuring: Welcome: Rev. Janet Broderick Kraft, Grace Church Van Vorst Artist: Anitra Haendel, painter, discussing Death Row Portraits Performance: Not in My Name by The Living Theater Author: Pam McAllister, Death Defying: Dismantling the Execution Machinery... Exonerated: Ray Krone, the 100th innocent American freed from death row Activist: Matthew B. Johnson Ph.D., New Jerseyans for a Death Penalty Moratorium Action Workshop: Lorry Post, NJ Coord. Murder Victims Families for Reconciliation and Celeste Fitzgerald, New Jerseyans for a Death Penalty Moratorium The event is free and open to the public. Lunch will be available for $5.00. For more information contact Garth Kobal, 201-222-6998. Directions: By Car: Head towards the Holland Tunnel leading to NY. Take a right on to Manila Ave which will be a few lights before the tunnel. Drive down Manila and take a right onto Second St. Erie Street and Grace Church will be the next block. If coming from NY, Manila Street will the 2nd left outside of the Holland Tunnel. By Foot: Take the Newark/Journal Sq-bound Path train to Grove St. Walk down Grove St. to Second St. and turn left. Erie Street and Grace Church will be the next block. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3486 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 21, 2004 at 17:44:51 Subject: Online Audio: Robert Menendez Speaks with Representative Lewis about the Civil Rights Movement To hear the Online audio portion of the television show, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3487 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2004 at 10:14:46 Subject: Helene Stapinski Article in NY Times NJ Section Tomorrow's NY Times NJ Section has an article by Helene Stapinski. Though Jersey City is the focus, Hoboken and some other Northern New Jersey towns are featured. The piece mixes reminiscence with impressions of visiting today. One "minus" is that the caption refences to the Loews and Stanley pictures are mismatched. The NY Times NJ section is not Online -- you gotta break down an' buy a copy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** West New York Reform Democratic Committee posted Message 3488 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2004 at 14:48:23 Subject: Sires absent from Commissioner Meeting May 22, 2004 For Immediate Release Contact: William Parkison (201) 232-7536 Jose C. Munoz (201) 362-6179 West New York Reform Democratic Committee Mayor Sires absent from Commissioner Meeting (West New York) – Members of the West New York Reform Democratic Committee and West New York citizens that attended the West New York Commissioner Meeting this past Wednesday, May 19, were disappointed at the absence of West New York Mayor and Speaker of the Assembly Albio Sires. “The issues of having an elected board vs. the appointed board, and the latest accusation by the mayor against our committee of voter intimidation, had to be address at the commissioner meeting, yet the mayor choose to be absent without an excuse” – declared committee chairman William Parkison. The West New York Reform Democratic Committee is currently circulating a petition for an elected board of education. Parkison added, “The Right to vote in our democratic society is a sacred right which resident of any town should not give up. The right to choose the board of education by the electorate is important to our children’s future! A board made up of non-independent thinkers, padded payrolls, waste of money and the massive movement of school administrators (Principals) in our school system, with children having not stability, only hurts the future of our society.” “We wanted as residents, to address our mayor on these issues but he was a no show. If our mayor is too busy with two jobs as an Assemblyman and Mayor, maybe he should give up one and concentrate on the one he feels he does best.” Jose Munoz, co-founder of the West New York Reform Democratic Committee and known activist for reforms in West New York declared: “The Mayor absence from the Commissioner meeting only shows how unimportant the town issues are on his agenda.” “An elected board of education will grant parents and West New York citizens the oportunity to choose professionals who answer to the people not to the mayor. I came from Cuba to this great country looking for democracy, not dictatorship.” “The West New York Reform Democratic Committee will continue to voice the concerns of our town and fight to bring reforms and ethic to our local government.” ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3489 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 22, 2004 at 16:45:28 Subject: Albio Sires Page I've started an Albio Sires Page. Please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3490 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 23, 2004 at 14:40:41 Subject: Signs in Union City I took a calorieburning stroll through the southern end of Union City. Stack has pretty well peppered the area with what seem to be 4' X 3'MENENDEX-RIVAS signs. I didn't see any for Fulop. Has he managed to round up any Independents in North Hudson? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3491 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 23, 2004 at 22:27:13 Subject: HA !!!!! Steve Fulop has the same support, and chance to win, as every other obscure politician chosen by stalwarts such as Cunningham and Arango. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3492 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 23, 2004 at 22:35:56 Subject: Same old Schundler Watched Bret on NJN's On the Record today. He showed very clearly how he will lose to McGreevey again. He continues to mouth the same old tired supply side mantra. He also continues with his anti-choice positions, a clear loser in NJ. Most disturbing, he voiced his unwavering support for Bush and the war in Iraq. Bret's tone was arrogant and condescending as usual. He apparently still doesn't understand that an ultra right wing Republican can't win a state-wide race in NJ. If the Republicans have any sense they'll pick someone else to run against McGreevey. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SchundlerFan posted Message 3493 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 24, 2004 at 07:17:31 Subject: A deep Thinker with Morals Schundler is a man with ideas.The war was the right thing to do. Remember 9-11 and pray it doesnt happen againg. Could you imagine if Gore was president.What this Country does not need is Left Wing anti Aerican Democratic Losers.Go out and get a job and stop living off of the success of others.USA -USA--USA. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DoctorX-Ray posted Message 3494 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 24, 2004 at 07:52:54 Subject: Jersy City is Dirty and in need of repair Less Scams and more work from Conman And Gang ,please.Jersey City Taxpayers deserve better. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nurse Betsy posted Message 3495 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 24, 2004 at 08:32:09 Subject: I still think Tom Gaynor is the one He was in Jersey City Friday and looks good and ready to go.He said he was disappointed in the way Jersey city looked ,with all the dirt and filth.He said he hoped "Help is on the wayin 2005". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Short Memory posted Message 3496 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 24, 2004 at 12:20:01 Subject: Tell That To Harvey Smith Kennelly try telling that to Harvey Smith, Joe Doria and whatever her name was. : Steve Fulop has the same support, and chance to win, as every other obscure politician chosen by stalwarts such as Cunningham and Arango. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3497 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 24, 2004 at 12:31:58 Subject: More like a ... sanctimonious, arrogant narcissist. Don't ya just hate people who laugh at their own jokes all the time? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3498 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 24, 2004 at 19:34:43 Subject: Re: I still think Tom Gaynor is the one : He was in Jersey City Friday and looks good and then was on the go.He said he was disappointed the Chief wasntable to catch himm .He said he hoped "He would be caught in 2005". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Ix-Nay posted Message 3499 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 24, 2004 at 19:38:46 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor is Dirty and in need of repair : Less Scams and more work from Gaynor And Gang ,please.Jersey City Taxpayers deserve better. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nurse Val posted Message 3500 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 07:47:25 Subject: JCHA investigation is ready to explode in scandal Lets hear your spin,Conman Cunningham.Maybe "Bad Deals"Munley can bail you out.Cunningham free in 2005.Inside boys will have to look for new scams. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Crabtree posted Message 3501 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 11:18:57 Subject: Create Charter High School Scandal The recently fired business manager of the Create Charter High School has wriiten a memo to NJ State authorities charging serious fiscal mismanagement and unethical business practices at the school. The memo has been circulated to members of the City Council as well as to reporters at the Jersey Journal and the Star Ledger. It appears that school founder and President, Steve Lipski, will have some serious explaining to do. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3502 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 14:55:36 Subject: JC Arts District Planning Board Meeting Today at 5:30P.M. There is a Jersey City Planning Board meeting today at 5:30P.M. Designating the arts district area "in need of redevelopment" is on the agenda. This is the first step in making the arts district a reality. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let's Hope and Pray posted Message 3503 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 15:49:24 Subject: Re: JCHA investigation is ready to explode in scandal I bet its gonna take a government investigation of this mayor and his crew before the people see what a mistake they made when they put him in office. Just like with Mcann the signs are all there for a big damned scandal. Greedy politicals who been staring in from outside for years...a mayor caught up by his need for power and glory...a bunch of money-grubbing fools lined up around the block...an administrator too new to our town to realize what's going on... a Chief of Staff to stupid and greedy to do anythin(and he probably has his hand in someon's pocket too)...and the list goes on. Lord help us all. : Lets hear your spin,Conman Cunningham.Maybe "Bad Deals"Munley can bail you out.Cunningham free in 2005.Inside boys will have to look for new scams. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stevitz posted Message 3504 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 17:16:28 Subject: Paul Schaeder still at the Golden Door Charter School? Is Paul Schaeder still at the Golden Door Charter School? If the answer is no, does anybody know what he is doing now? : The recently fired business manager of the Create Charter High School has wriiten a memo to NJ State authorities charging serious fiscal mismanagement and unethical business practices at the school. : The memo has been circulated to members of the City Council as well as to reporters at the Jersey Journal and the Star Ledger. : It appears that school founder and President, Steve Lipski, will have some serious explaining to do. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Party is OVER posted Message 3505 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 17:43:14 Subject: HCDO Leaders All on Bobby J Tapes There is a reason Bobby J is not in jail. It's called the Big Kahuna. : I bet its gonna take a government investigation of this mayor and his crew before the people see what a mistake they made when they put him in office. Just like with Mcann the signs are all there for a big damned scandal. Greedy politicals who been staring in from outside for years...a mayor caught up by his need for power and glory...a bunch of money-grubbing fools lined up around the block...an administrator too new to our town to realize what's going on... a Chief of Staff to stupid and greedy to do anythin(and he probably has his hand in someon's pocket too)...and the list goes on. Lord help us all. : : Lets hear your spin,Conman Cunningham.Maybe "Bad Deals"Munley can bail you out.Cunningham free in 2005.Inside boys will have to look for new scams. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DePuppet Has to Ask His Handlers posted Message 3506 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 17:45:53 Subject: Try Using Dirtyneck's Office Shower : : Less Scams and more work from Gaynor And Gang ,please.Jersey City Taxpayers deserve better. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val aint a Gal posted Message 3507 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 19:00:41 Subject: Our heads r ready to explode in frustration : Lets hear your spin,Conman Gaynor.Maybe "Bad Jokes"can bail you out.Gaynor free in 2005.Inside boys will have to look for new jokes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lets go to the tapes posted Message 3508 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 19:03:08 Subject: O-tay then : There is a reason Bobby J is not in jail. It's called the Big Kahuna. : : : I bet its gonna take a government investigation of this mayor and his crew before the people see what a mistake they made when they put him in office. Just like with Mcann the signs are all there for a big damned scandal. Greedy politicals who been staring in from outside for years...a mayor caught up by his need for power and glory...a bunch of money-grubbing fools lined up around the block...an administrator too new to our town to realize what's going on... a Chief of Staff to stupid and greedy to do anythin(and he probably has his hand in someon's pocket too)...and the list goes on. Lord help us all. : : : Lets hear your spin,Conman Cunningham.Maybe "Bad Deals"Munley can bail you out.Cunningham free in 2005.Inside boys will have to look for new scams. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3509 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 20:22:19 Subject: What's with the Rothman signs? What's with the Rothman signs springing up like mushrooms all over the Heights? He's runnin' unopposed in the primary, ain't that the fact? Does he figger his mug starin' outta every storefront on Central Avenue is gonna be good for the moral fiber of the general citizenry? Congressman Steve, why dontcha like save a tree and give the printing presses a rest! Donate the money you save to charity. There's plenty of people in dire need in Jersey City. Or maybe you might want to start doin' like the YOUR PICTURE ON A CAKE routine. That'll do more good for the needy people here than cardboard. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3510 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 20:41:37 Subject: What's with the Rothman signs? What's with the Rothman signs springing up like mushrooms all over the Heights? He's runnin' unopposed in the primary, ain't that the fact? Does he figger his mug starin' outta every storefront on Central Avenue is gonna be good for the moral fiber of the general citizenry? Congressman Steve, why dontcha like save a tree and give the printing presses a rest! Donate the money you save to charity. Jersey City's got plenty of people in dire need. Or maybe you might want to start doin' like the YOUR PICTURE ON A CAKE routine. That'll do more good for the needy people here than cardboard. ***************** End Of Article ****************** same ol' posted Message 3511 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 21:53:59 Subject: Re: What's with the Rothman signs? Just as stupid as u walking around city hall with your " getnj"tee! : Or maybe you might want to start doin' like the YOUR PICTURE ON A CAKE routine. That'll do more good for the needy people here than cardboard. : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Breaking News posted Message 3512 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 23:15:36 Subject: Breaking News. Glenn Cunningham died of a heart attack this evening. ***************** End Of Article ****************** fanjc posted Message 3513 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 25, 2004 at 23:37:17 Subject: RIP Mayor Cunningham Condolences to Sandy... ***************** End Of Article ****************** jcnow posted Message 3514 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 00:23:37 Subject: Re: RIP Mayor Cunningham : Condolences to Sandy... yes, the city has truely lost a good man. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Happy Bob posted Message 3515 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 00:23:59 Subject: Now he must answer to GOD I guess Glenn coun't take all the people kissing his ass or Bobby M has a real genie granting him wishes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blow Off posted Message 3516 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 00:40:35 Subject: Re: Now he must answer to GOD You're a first rate ass...show some respect, idiot. : I guess Glenn coun't take all the people kissing his ass or Bobby M has a real genie granting him wishes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 3517 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 06:55:02 Subject: Untimely death of Mayor Cunningham First & foremost, my sincere condolences to Mrs. Cunningham, family & friends. Whether you cared for his politics or not, Mayor Cunningham was a good,kind man who sincerely tried to do what he considered to be in the best interest of Jersey City. I ask that all his detractors try, for just one moment, to lay down their personal agendas & act in a professional, caring manner to help Jersey City through what will be an extremely difficult time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 3518 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 06:56:41 Subject: Re: Now he must answer to GOD You are an idiot. Remember, what goes around comes around. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3519 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 08:14:45 Subject: Rest in Peace Mayor Cunningham May God Bless you .I truly hope you rest in Peace. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Michael Russo Civic Association posted Message 3520 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 09:32:00 Subject: Letter to the State Concerning Hoboken’s Overspending Letter to the State Concerning Hoboken’s Overspending ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3521 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 10:48:11 Subject: Filling a Vacancy in the Legislature SECTION IV Any vacancy in the Legislature occasioned otherwise than by expiration of term shall be filled by election for the unexpired term only at the next general election occurring not less than 51 days after the occurrence of the vacancy, except that no vacancy shall be filled at the general election which immediately precedes the expiration of the term in which the vacancy occurs. For the interim period pending the election and qualification of a successor to fill the vacancy, or for the remainder of the term in the case of a vacancy occurring which cannot be filled pursuant to the terms of this paragraph at a general election, the vacancy shall be filled within 35 days by the members of the county committee of the political party of which the incumbent was the nominee from the municipalities or districts or units thereof which comprise the legislative district. Article IV, Section IV, paragraph 1 amended effective December 8, 1988. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3522 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 11:03:22 Subject: Names for Mayor? Names for State Senate? Anybody hear any names being circulated for the two posts? Any chance of one person getting both? Is there any chance that the Reform and HCDO camps might arrive at mutually acceptable or compromise candidates? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3523 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 11:08:32 Subject: WNYC Reports Harvey Smith to be Mayor WNYC reports Councilman Brennan says that Council President L. Harvey Smith is expected to be Mayor. : Anybody hear any names being circulated for the two posts? Any chance of one person getting both? : Is there any chance that the Reform and HCDO camps might arrive at mutually acceptable or compromise candidates? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Denise D'Alessandro posted Message 3524 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 14:18:55 Subject: Glenn will be truly missed Whatever side of the politcal fence you might have been on, no one can ever say Glenn Cunningham wasn't a great guy. He devoted himself to the people of Jersey City in every aspect of his life. I was one of the many fortunate people to have known him. He was a true leader with integrity and the guts to stand up for what he believed in. The City of Jersey City has lost a great man!! Our condolences go out to Sandra and the Cunningham Family.... Rest in Peace... The D'Alessandro Family ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3525 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 16:55:40 Subject: Tonight's Jersey City Council meeting is cancelled. Tonight's Jersey City Council meeting is cancelled. ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City Mayor's Office posted Message 3526 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 16:56:50 Subject: The staff of Mayor and Senator Glenn D. Cunningham express their thoughts and prayers to the Cunningham family and the family of Jersey City and the 31st District at this difficult time. The staff of Mayor and Senator Glenn D. Cunningham express their thoughts and prayers to the Cunningham family and the family of Jersey City and the 31st District at this difficult time. Glenn was a leader, a role model and a friend to everyone who knew him. Those of us who had the great fortune to work with him every day witnessed the compassion and dedication with which he served. We would like to thank the residents of Jersey City for their support and strength as we all take time to remember the life of one of the Citys most honorable men, Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3527 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 17:02:28 Subject: Funeral Arrangements For Mayor Glenn Cunningham On Sunday and Monday from noon to 8PM, Mayor/State Senator Glenn Cunningham will lie in state at Jersey City Hall. On Tuesday at 10:00AM, there will be a procession following a horse-drawn wagon from City Hall (280 Grove Street) to Metropolitan AME Church (140 Belmont Avenue). The funeral service will be held at the Metropolitan AME Church on Tuesday at 11AM. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3528 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 17:38:18 Subject: NJN: Gaughan to be named Interim Mayor, Smith Interim State Senator NJN says that Councilman Bill Gaughan is to become interim mayor of Jersey City. L. Harvey Smith is to take the Senate seat. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FALSE INFO posted Message 3529 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 26, 2004 at 19:31:01 Subject: Re: NJN: Gaughan to be named Interim Mayor, Smith Interim State Senator :NOT TRUE ***************** End Of Article ****************** Richard W. Piatkowski posted Message 3530 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 27, 2004 at 06:03:32 Subject: I wish to extend my condolences to the family of Glenn D. Cunningham. I wish to extend my condolences to the family of Glenn D. Cunningham. As a U.S. Marine, Jersey City Police Officer, Councilman, Federal Marshal, Mayor, and State Senator, Mayor Cunningham gave a lifetime of service to the people of Jersey City. In particular, I will never forget the leadership he provided in the aftermath of the horror of 9/11. The entire nation should remember him for this. Through many decades of work, Glenn lives on. Because of the fine example he provided to young people, Mayor Cunningham's faith and enthusiasm will never leave Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3531 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 27, 2004 at 11:30:19 Subject: Does Donald Scarinci have it right? Word is that Menendez confidante Donald Scarinci says that the HCDO has all the committee votes they need lined up in the 31st district. The regular Democratic organization is ready to put their candidate in to replace Glenn Cunningham in the State Senate. Is this the case? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Every Trick In The Book posted Message 3532 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 27, 2004 at 12:55:01 Subject: HCDO Uses HCDO Chairman Bernard Kenny must call for the elected County Committee Persons in Leg. District 31 to meet within 30 Days to name a replacement for Senator. As Chairman - Kenny can decide the meeting place - which WILL BE in Bayonne. HCDO will use every trick in the book to ensure it's annointed one gets the Senate Seat. What is questioable is who will get the seat. Doria controls the actual Bayonne County Committee and could insist on naming the replacement. HCDO controls the marjority of County Committee seats in Leg Dist31 BUT does not control the voting public. : Word is that Menendez confidante Donald Scarinci says that the HCDO has all the committee votes they need lined up in the 31st district. The regular Democratic organization is ready to put their candidate in to replace Glenn Cunningham in the State Senate. : Is this the case? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3533 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 27, 2004 at 13:06:16 Subject: Numbers in the 31st? Bayonne County Commitee vs Jersey City County Committee What are the numbers for the members of the County Committee in the 31st? Is the ratio the same as for the voting population -- 67% Jersey City to 33% Bayonne? A Are the Jersey City County Committee members lined up with Cunningham's Reform Democrats? : HCDO Chairman Bernard Kenny must call for the elected County Committee Persons in Leg. District 31 to meet within 30 Days to name a replacement for Senator. : As Chairman - Kenny can decide the meeting place - which WILL BE in Bayonne. : HCDO will use every trick in the book to ensure it's annointed one gets the Senate Seat. : What is questioable is who will get the seat. Doria controls the actual Bayonne County Committee and could insist on naming the replacement. : HCDO controls the marjority of County Committee seats in Leg Dist31 BUT does not control the voting public. : : : Word is that Menendez confidante Donald Scarinci says that the HCDO has all the committee votes they need lined up in the 31st district. The regular Democratic organization is ready to put their candidate in to replace Glenn Cunningham in the State Senate. : : Is this the case? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Because Gaugham Out of Control posted Message 3534 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 27, 2004 at 13:28:23 Subject: Scarinci Spin Scarinci proclaiming that Menendez has the Senate replacement all locked up it is NOTHING MORE THAN SPIN. It is designed to quell the chaos that has errupted over the replacement of Interim Mayor. HCDO loyalists are at odds with each other. Word in the county is that Gaugham coupled with Degise are insisting on naming the Interim Mayor and they don't want Menendez's choice of Harvey Smith. Apparently DePuppet is out of Boss Bobalou's control for the time being. If Doria acts like Gaugham & Degise - Replacements are anyone's guess. Look for Doria to take home a big prize/contract/appointment. What are the numbers for the members of the County Committee in the 31st? Is the ratio the same as for the voting population -- 67% Jersey City to 33% Bayonne? A : Are the Jersey City County Committee members lined up with Cunningham's Reform Democrats? : : HCDO Chairman Bernard Kenny must call for the elected County Committee Persons in Leg. District 31 to meet within 30 Days to name a replacement for Senator. : : As Chairman - Kenny can decide the meeting place - which WILL BE in Bayonne. : : HCDO will use every trick in the book to ensure it's annointed one gets the Senate Seat. : : What is questioable is who will get the seat. Doria controls the actual Bayonne County Committee and could insist on naming the replacement. : : HCDO controls the marjority of County Committee seats in Leg Dist31 BUT does not control the voting public. : : : : : : Word is that Menendez confidante Donald Scarinci says that the HCDO has all the committee votes they need lined up in the 31st district. The regular Democratic organization is ready to put their candidate in to replace Glenn Cunningham in the State Senate. : : : Is this the case? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3535 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 27, 2004 at 14:03:20 Subject: Sauron doesn't want anyone else to have the ring? Sauron can trust the nazgul chief with the ring, right? : Scarinci proclaiming that Menendez has the Senate replacement all locked up it is NOTHING MORE THAN SPIN. : It is designed to quell the chaos that has errupted over the replacement of Interim Mayor. HCDO loyalists are at odds with each other. : Word in the county is that Gaugham coupled with Degise are insisting on naming the Interim Mayor and they don't want Menendez's choice of Harvey Smith. : Apparently DePuppet is out of Boss Bobalou's control for the time being. : If Doria acts like Gaugham & Degise - Replacements are anyone's guess. Look for Doria to take home a big prize/contract/appointment. : What are the numbers for the members of the County Committee in the 31st? Is the ratio the same as for the voting population -- 67% Jersey City to 33% Bayonne? A : : Are the Jersey City County Committee members lined up with Cunningham's Reform Democrats? : : : HCDO Chairman Bernard Kenny must call for the elected County Committee Persons in Leg. District 31 to meet within 30 Days to name a replacement for Senator. : : : As Chairman - Kenny can decide the meeting place - which WILL BE in Bayonne. : : : HCDO will use every trick in the book to ensure it's annointed one gets the Senate Seat. : : : What is questioable is who will get the seat. Doria controls the actual Bayonne County Committee and could insist on naming the replacement. : : : HCDO controls the marjority of County Committee seats in Leg Dist31 BUT does not control the voting public. : : : : : : : : : Word is that Menendez confidante Donald Scarinci says that the HCDO has all the committee votes they need lined up in the 31st district. The regular Democratic organization is ready to put their candidate in to replace Glenn Cunningham in the State Senate. : : : : Is this the case? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3536 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 27, 2004 at 14:10:22 Subject: Two cases Best case: The two factions realize what strife has cost them and the people. All reflect on the good things that Glenn has done. Since two seats are involved, a compromise is easy. Most likely case: HCDO exploits the tragedy to gain a temporary upper hand. They spend so much time fighting amongst each other, that the Reform retreat doesn't result in scorched earth. By November, a number of HCDO have gone over to the Reformed who wind up winning big in the elections. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Losing Control posted Message 3537 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 27, 2004 at 20:34:57 Subject: Semator Doria ??? From Donald's www.politicsnj.com website looks like Doria might want to be Senator - REMEMBER DORIA NOT MENENDEZ CONTROLS THE COUNTY COMMITTEEPEOPLE. "If Smith is tapped by the council to be acting mayor and runs for the job in November, the Senate seat would almost undoubtedly go to Joseph V. Doria, the mayor of Bayonne and a member of the state Assembly from 1980 until this past January. Doria, a source close to the mayor said, would take the spot if it were offered. Democratic county committee members from the 31st District will meet sometime in the next month to pick an interim senator. A special partisan election would be held in November to determine who fills the remaining three-plus years of Cunningham's term. Doria does have one powerful -- and unlikely -- ally in his corner: Gov. James E. McGreevey, who actually helped orchestrate Doria's ouster as the Assembly's Democratic leader in late 2001. Several sources say McGreevey's staff has told Doria and Democratic leaders in Hudson County that the governor would prefer Doria to Smith for the Senate seat. Why McGreevey wants Doria isn't certain. Speculation is that McGreevey trusts that Doria would support him on key votes, something he had to worry about with the maverick Cunningham. Of course, McGreevey is not on the best of terms with the HCDO's leaders, particularly Menendez, so how much weight his endorsement of Doria will carry is questionable." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anonymous JC posted Message 3538 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 27, 2004 at 23:29:12 Subject: Re: Interesting letter to the Editor I posted this on some filipino message board that claimed injustice for the Gavina's (MURDERERS) I personally did not know Dominick Infantes, however, his life was still lost. Had that been one of your family members or friends, you would feel that whoever hit them over the head with a metal pipe was a murderer. Taking someone's life is murder, no matter how you do it, whether it be defense, malicious, or by accident. When you are involved in a car accident, and someone dies......you can be charged with murder. I don't care if you are black, white, brown, filipino, hatian, cuban, green.... Murder is murder. Dominick Infantes will never see the light of day again. He spent his last hours braindead in a hospital with his new wife and his family. I can't see how you feel the Gavina's have faced unjustice. They have the ability to see the light of day, feel sorrow for their sins, see and hear from their family (whether it be behind bars or not), wake up knowing that they are alive and well. Dominick does not have this. He is dead. He will never see his family again, his wife, his friends, his job, or any of the people that loved him as much as he loved them. If this was your family member or friend, you would want ANY possible way to put your loved one's murderers behind bars. Dominick was not carrying a weapon. If he had assaulted the Gavinas, they still were guilty of assaulting him with a weapon that eventually lead to an injury that put him to death. I hope you take into consideration that when ANYONE is killed by another human, it has nothing to do with race/nationality. The Filipino community in Jersey City has disgusted me with their racist claims. What would have had happened if it were a Filipino cop that was murdered by white brothers? Consider the situation, and more importantly: OPEN YOUR MIND BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CompuSerb posted Message 3539 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 08:07:58 Subject: G.W. Bush want to make "a better world" http://ADLUSA.com -- restoring America's dignity ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3540 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 09:05:49 Subject: Manzo in the Senate? Any chance that Lou Manzo might get the Senate spot? Then Doria could return home to the Assembly? : From Donald's www.politicsnj.com website looks like Doria might want to be Senator - REMEMBER DORIA NOT MENENDEZ CONTROLS THE COUNTY COMMITTEEPEOPLE. : "If Smith is tapped by the council to be acting mayor and runs for the job in November, the Senate seat would almost undoubtedly go to Joseph V. Doria, the mayor of Bayonne and a member of the state Assembly from 1980 until this past January. : Doria, a source close to the mayor said, would take the spot if it were offered. : Democratic county committee members from the 31st District will meet sometime in the next month to pick an interim senator. A special partisan election would be held in November to determine who fills the remaining three-plus years of Cunningham's term. : Doria does have one powerful -- and unlikely -- ally in his corner: Gov. James E. McGreevey, who actually helped orchestrate Doria's ouster as the Assembly's Democratic leader in late 2001. : Several sources say McGreevey's staff has told Doria and Democratic leaders in Hudson County that the governor would prefer Doria to Smith for the Senate seat. : Why McGreevey wants Doria isn't certain. Speculation is that McGreevey trusts that Doria would support him on key votes, something he had to worry about with the maverick Cunningham. : Of course, McGreevey is not on the best of terms with the HCDO's leaders, particularly Menendez, so how much weight his endorsement of Doria will carry is questionable." ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3541 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 09:29:30 Subject: NJN Video: Political Ramifications of Mayor Cunningham's Death Many believe that Sandra Cunningham shall assume leadership of her husband's Reform Democratic Organization. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3542 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 10:26:39 Subject: Re: Manzo in the Senate? When donkeys fly !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3543 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 10:29:46 Subject: Save us from Sandra This woman says Gene Drayton is her "knight in shining armor". It's sad she lost her husband, but she doesn't inherit the Mayor's position as a result. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Your Day Will Come posted Message 3544 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 11:18:04 Subject: Sick Sidd Vicious Just wait........ : This woman says Gene Drayton is her "knight in shining armor". : It's sad she lost her husband, but she doesn't inherit the Mayor's position as a result. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3545 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 12:45:35 Subject: Yawn. Will it be Monday or Tuesday ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3546 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 13:15:31 Subject: Tuesday : Will it be Monday or Tuesday ? Tuesday -- the first Tuesday in November. . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** He's History posted Message 3547 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 16:32:22 Subject: What happens to Ayala? So where does this idiot wind up now? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Travel Agent posted Message 3548 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 16:42:19 Subject: Re: What happens to Ayala? I got a one-way ticket out of town for that low life. I think he was workin for Menendez the whole time. He got no reason to stay here no more. Won't be surprised if he goes to work for Menendez now...just like he's been doin the whole time. : So where does this idiot wind up now? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3549 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 16:42:34 Subject: Sorry Uber. I've already sold my soul to the devil, so I expect to win that day. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Maybe he can go where Glazer is posted Message 3550 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 17:59:56 Subject: Re: What happens to Ayala? Far away from us ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amen posted Message 3551 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 18:12:54 Subject: Re: What happens to Ayala? Just get him the hell out of Jersey City. : Far away from us ***************** End Of Article ****************** So you say Ayala should join him in he11? posted Message 3552 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 28, 2004 at 22:06:52 Subject: Re: What happens to Ayala? : Far away from us ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3553 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2004 at 05:59:28 Subject: Lynn Schundler for Mayor? On Reporters Roundtable it was speculated that Lynn Schundler might run for Mayor of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3554 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2004 at 07:08:30 Subject: Reporters Roundtable: Appointing Someone Outside of Cunningham's Organization Would be an Affront to the Will of the People This view was expressed on Reporters Roundtable. It must be mentioned that the panelist did preface his remarks by stating that he didn't know anything about Hudson County Politics, that it was like another world. . . I'd say, like outta this world! ***************** End Of Article ****************** David Duke is a malignant narcissist. posted Message 3555 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2004 at 08:44:00 Subject: David Duke is a malignant narcissist. David Duke is a malignant narcissist. He invents and then projects a false, fictitious, self for the world to fear, or to admire. He maintains a tenuous grasp on reality to start with and the trappings of power further exacerbate this. Real life authority and David Duke’s predilection to surround him with obsequious sycophants support David Duke’s grandiose self-delusions and fantasies of omnipotence and omniscience. David Duke's personality is so precariously balanced that he cannot tolerate even a hint of criticism and disagreement. Most narcissists are paranoid and suffer from ideas of reference (the delusion that they are being mocked or discussed when they are not). Thus, narcissists often regard themselves as "victims of persecution". Duke fosters and encourages a personality cult with all the hallmarks of an institutional religion: priesthood, rites, rituals, temples, worship, catechism, and mythology. The leader is this religion's ascetic saint. He monastically denies himself earthly pleasures (or so he claims) in order to be able to dedicate himself fully to his calling. Duke is a monstrously inverted Jesus, sacrificing his life and denying himself so that his people - or humanity at large - should benefit. By surpassing and suppressing his humanity, Duke became a distorted version of Nietzsche's "superman". But being a-human or super-human also means being a-sexual and a-moral. In this restricted sense, narcissistic leaders are post-modernist and moral relativists. They project to the masses an androgynous figure and enhance it by engendering the adoration of nudity and all things "natural" - or by strongly repressing these feelings. But what they refer to, as "nature" is not natural at all. Duke invariably proffers an aesthetic of decadence and evil carefully orchestrated and artificial - though it is not perceived this way by him or by his followers. Narcissistic leadership is about reproduced copies, not about originals. It is about the manipulation of symbols - not about veritable atavism or true conservatism. In short: narcissistic leadership is about theatre, not about life. To enjoy the spectacle (and be subsumed by it), the leader demands the suspension of judgment, depersonalization, and de-realization. Catharsis is tantamount, in this narcissistic dramaturgy, to self-annulment. Narcissism is nihilistic not only operationally, or ideologically. Its very language and narratives are nihilistic. Narcissism is conspicuous nihilism - and the cult's leader serves as a role model, annihilating the Man, only to re-appear as a pre-ordained and irresistible force of nature. Narcissistic leadership often poses as a rebellion against the "old ways" - against the hegemonic culture, the upper classes, the established religions, the superpowers, the corrupt order. Narcissistic movements are puerile, a reaction to narcissistic injuries inflicted upon David Duke like (and rather psychopathic) toddler nation-state, or group, or upon the leader. Minorities or "others" - often arbitrarily selected - constitute a perfect, easily identifiable, embodiment of all that is "wrong". They are accused of being old, they are eerily disembodied, they are cosmopolitan, they are part of the establishment, they are "decadent", they are hated on religious and socio-economic grounds, or because of their race, sexual orientation, origin ... They are different, they are narcissistic (feel and act as morally superior), they are everywhere, they are defenseless, they are credulous, they are adaptable (and thus can be co-opted to collaborate in their own destruction). They are the perfect hate figure. Narcissists thrive on hatred and pathological envy. This is precisely the source of the fascination with Hitler, diagnosed by Erich Fromm - together with Stalin - as a malignant narcissist. He was an inverted human. His unconscious was his conscious. He acted out our most repressed drives, fantasies, and wishes. He provides us with a glimpse of the horrors that lie beneath the veneer, the barbarians at our personal gates, and what it was like before we invented civilization. Hitler forced us all through a time warp and many did not emerge. He was not the devil. He was one of us. He was what Arendt aptly called the banality of evil. Just an ordinary, mentally disturbed, failure, a member of a mentally disturbed and failing nation, who lived through disturbed and failing times. He was the perfect mirror, a channel, a voice, and the very depth of our souls. Duke prefers the sparkle and glamour of well-orchestrated illusions to the tedium and method of real accomplishments. His reign is all smoke and mirrors, devoid of substances, consisting of mere appearances and mass delusions. In the aftermath of his regime - Duke having died, been deposed, or voted out of office - it all unravels. The tireless and constant prestidigitation ceases and the entire edifice crumbles. What looked like an economic miracle turns out to have been a fraud-laced bubble. Loosely held empires disintegrate. Laboriously assembled business conglomerates go to pieces. "Earth shattering" and "revolutionary" scientific discoveries and theories are discredited. Social experiments end in mayhem. It is important to understand that the use of violence must be ego-syntonic. It must accord with the self-image of David Duke. It must abet and sustain his grandiose fantasies and feed his sense of entitlement. It must conform David Duke like narrative. Thus, David Duke who regards himself as the benefactor of the poor, a member of the common folk, the representative of the disenfranchised, the champion of the dispossessed against the corrupt elite - is highly unlikely to use violence at first. The pacific mask crumbles when David Duke has become convinced that the very people he purported to speak for, his constituency, his grassroots fans, and the prime sources of his narcissistic supply - have turned against him. At first, in a desperate effort to maintain the fiction underlying his chaotic personality, David Duke strives to explain away the sudden reversal of sentiment. "The people are being duped by (the media, big industry, the military, the elite, etc.)", "they don't really know what they are doing", "following a rude awakening, they will revert to form", etc. When these flimsy attempts to patch a tattered personal mythology fail, David Duke becomes injured. Narcissistic injury inevitably leads to narcissistic rage and to a terrifying display of unbridled aggression. The pent-up frustration and hurt translate into devaluation. That which was previously idealized - is now discarded with contempt and hatred. This primitive defense mechanism is called "splitting". To David Duke, things and people are either entirely bad (evil) or entirely good. He projects onto others his own shortcomings and negative emotions, thus becoming a totally good object. Duke is likely to justify the butchering of his own people by claiming that they intended to kill him, undo the revolution, devastate the economy, or the country, etc. The "small people", the "rank and file", and the "loyal soldiers" of David Duke - his flock, his nation, and his employees - they pay the price. The disillusionment and disenchantment are agonizing. The process of reconstruction, of rising from the ashes, of overcoming the trauma of having been deceived, exploited and manipulated - is drawn-out. It is difficult to trust again, to have faith, to love, to be led, to collaborate. Feelings of shame and guilt engulf the erstwhile followers of David Duke. This is his sole legacy: a massive post-traumatic stress disorder. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3556 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2004 at 09:08:38 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kasimir posted Message 3557 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2004 at 17:08:29 Subject: Brian Dorf coming back to City Hall? Replacing Ayala? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Putzy posted Message 3558 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2004 at 17:11:32 Subject: Glenn's belonging put out in the hall in boxes I heard a story that Sandy wasn't allowed into the office to get Glenn's things in the mayor's office. The story goes on that the new crew put his things in boxes out in the hall. Is this true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3559 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2004 at 18:44:49 Subject: What's the situation with the Deputy Mayors? Can the Acting/Interim Mayor fire Cruz and Drayton? ***************** End Of Article ****************** CF posted Message 3560 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2004 at 18:57:48 Subject: Re: Glenn's belonging put out in the hall in boxes We( The Mayor's staff) packed all of his belongings on Wednesday. They were sent to his home (requested) by the First Lady. She was in the office on Thursday to be with us. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Will of the People posted Message 3561 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2004 at 19:36:20 Subject: Tuesday November 2, 2004 What you "expect" and what WILL HAPPEN are two different things ! : I've already sold my soul to the devil, so I expect to win that day. : Bwahahahahahahahahahaha. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3562 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2004 at 23:07:19 Subject: Off with their heads !!!! Smith can fire them. They'll be gone after the funeral. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3563 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 29, 2004 at 23:13:46 Subject: The Brown Acid Anthony .. you gotta stop using that stuff. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3564 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 04:36:35 Subject: Don't shoot the messenger. . . A member of the panel on Reporters Roundtable stated that Lynn Schundler and Sandra Cunningham were two possible candidates for Mayor of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3565 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 04:54:07 Subject: Glenn's War Chest Are there any restrictions for the use/transfer of Glenn Cunningham's campaign fund? Pat O'Melia speculates that since the name of the fund is "Cunningham For Mayor 2005," the money can ONLY be used for someone named Cunningham running for Mayor. In any event, come November, if Sandra Cunningham wants the job, she's got it. Given that, it'll be interesting to see how far the ax will fall over the next 5 months -- 'cause it'll swing the other way real fast. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3566 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 04:59:13 Subject: When a Council-member become Mayor Harvey Smith is now Acting Mayor. My understanding is that he also is still a member of the City Council and is the Council President. Is the same true for Interim Mayor? If a Council-member becomes Interim Mayor, do they remain on the Council. Jersey City saw this about a dozen years ago when Rakowski was Interim Mayor. I don't remember if he stayed on the Council. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Historian posted Message 3567 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 09:39:37 Subject: Re: When a Council-member become Mayor Yes... Joe Rakowski maintained his position on the City Council and all voting rights during his tenure as Acting Mayor. In fact...he was seated as Council President during the July reorganization, which in turn gave him the reins of the City as Acting Mayor. Just as in today's situation, if the City Council cannot select an acting Mayor from those putting themselves forth as potential candidates for the position, the law delineates an order of succession that begins with the Council President. When Gerry McCann was removed by the courts, Marilyn Roman was Council President and therefore became Acting Mayor. In July of that year the City Council did its annual reorganization and ousted her as Council President and seated Joe Rakowski in her place. Since the Council under Schundler passed an ordinace making the Council Presidency a four-year term running concurrent with the Mayor's term, Harvey cannot be removed in a July Reorganization, and will maintain the position as Acting Mayor until the special election is held in November. : Harvey Smith is now Acting Mayor. My understanding is that he also is still a member of the City Council and is the Council President. : Is the same true for Interim Mayor? If a Council-member becomes Interim Mayor, do they remain on the Council. : Jersey City saw this about a dozen years ago when Rakowski was Interim Mayor. I don't remember if he stayed on the Council. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Twister posted Message 3568 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 09:49:05 Subject: Re: Brian Dorf coming back to City Hall? Talk about payback....wouldn't that be a twist. Ayala targetted that guy from the begnning. Now its Ayala's turn to get a knife in his back. He's going to learn the hard way that what goes around comes around. Nothing could be more poetic. : Replacing Ayala? ***************** End Of Article ****************** forget me not posted Message 3569 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 11:43:19 Subject: Re: Off with their heads !!!! : Smith can fire them. They'll be gone after the funeral. I'm glad to see gene drayton go, he didn't care about jersey city, he was about gene. corrupted by power with no respect to jersey city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3570 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 12:13:48 Subject: Same goes for Interim Mayor OK, Harvey Smith is Council President and Acting Mayor. But, if he is elected by the Council as Interim Mayor, does he still remain on the Council? I'm not trying to be argumentative. I just want to get a clear outline of the process. Many questions are being raised that (luckily) rarely need to be asked. : Yes... Joe Rakowski maintained his position on the City Council and all voting rights during his tenure as Acting Mayor. In fact...he was seated as Council President during the July reorganization, which in turn gave him the reins of the City as Acting Mayor. : Just as in today's situation, if the City Council cannot select an acting Mayor from those putting themselves forth as potential candidates for the position, the law delineates an order of succession that begins with the Council President. : When Gerry McCann was removed by the courts, Marilyn Roman was Council President and therefore became Acting Mayor. In July of that year the City Council did its annual reorganization and ousted her as Council President and seated Joe Rakowski in her place. : Since the Council under Schundler passed an ordinace making the Council Presidency a four-year term running concurrent with the Mayor's term, Harvey cannot be removed in a July Reorganization, and will maintain the position as Acting Mayor until the special election is held in November. : : Harvey Smith is now Acting Mayor. My understanding is that he also is still a member of the City Council and is the Council President. : : Is the same true for Interim Mayor? If a Council-member becomes Interim Mayor, do they remain on the Council. : : Jersey City saw this about a dozen years ago when Rakowski was Interim Mayor. I don't remember if he stayed on the Council. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mordecai posted Message 3571 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 12:54:01 Subject: Brian Dorf's first words back City Hall? This place should have a revolving door! : Talk about payback....wouldn't that be a twist. Ayala targetted that guy from the begnning. Now its Ayala's turn to get a knife in his back. He's going to learn the hard way that what goes around comes around. Nothing could be more poetic. : : Replacing Ayala? ***************** End Of Article ****************** What's next? posted Message 3572 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 12:55:42 Subject: McCann? Is Gerry's spot "safe" or is he in for the boot soon? ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCan't can't get a break....LMAO posted Message 3573 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 15:00:11 Subject: Re: McCann? nt ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3574 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 17:19:39 Subject: A large number of people are at City Hall right now. Someone waiting to pay their last respects to Glenn Cunningham just called me from City Hall. I'm told that there are a large number of people there. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Is Glazer covering it for the UTN? posted Message 3575 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 17:35:58 Subject: Re: A large number of people are at City Hall right now. : Someone waiting to pay their last respects to Glenn Cunningham just called me from City Hall. I'm told that there are a large number of people there. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sounds like a scam posted Message 3576 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 17:38:40 Subject: Sending the money to Jackson and Cardwell? In Lieu of Flowers Donations May Be Made In Honor of Glenn D. Cunningham To: The Sandra & Glenn Cunningham Foundation 20 Chapel Ave Jersey City, N.J. 07305 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Heard this will cost the tax payers 600,000.00 posted Message 3577 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 17:41:20 Subject: Not for nothing ral Arrangements for Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham On Sunday and Monday from noon to 8PM, Mayor/State Senator Glenn Cunningham will lie in state at Jersey City Hall. On Tuesday at 10:00AM, there will be a procession following a horse-drawn wagon from City Hall (280 Grove Street) to the Armory (the corner of Montgomery and Baldwin). The funeral service will be held at the Armory at 11 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Sandy they are using her husbands death to make $$$$$$ posted Message 3578 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 17:43:47 Subject: Re: Sending the money to Jackson and Cardwell? : In Lieu of Flowers : Donations May Be Made In Honor of Glenn D. Cunningham To: : The Sandra & Glenn Cunningham Foundation : 20 Chapel Ave : Jersey City, N.J. 07305 ***************** End Of Article ****************** bye bye Eugene posted Message 3579 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 17:57:59 Subject: eugene and puppet Tom bye bye Eugene Drayton and Puppet Tom. and don't come back to city hall. you were nothine but crooks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3580 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 18:09:38 Subject: Tom who? Who's Tom in City Hall? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3581 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 18:12:59 Subject: Does the same hold true for Interim Mayor? OK, Harvey Smith is Council President and Acting Mayor. But, if he is elected by the Council as Interim Mayor, does he still remain on the Council? I'm not trying to be argumentative. I just want to get a clear outline of the process. Many questions are being raised that (luckily) rarely need to be asked. : Yes... Joe Rakowski maintained his position on the City Council and all voting rights during his tenure as Acting Mayor. In fact...he was seated as Council President during the July reorganization, which in turn gave him the reins of the City as Acting Mayor. : Just as in today's situation, if the City Council cannot select an acting Mayor from those putting themselves forth as potential candidates for the position, the law delineates an order of succession that begins with the Council President. : When Gerry McCann was removed by the courts, Marilyn Roman was Council President and therefore became Acting Mayor. In July of that year the City Council did its annual reorganization and ousted her as Council President and seated Joe Rakowski in her place. : Since the Council under Schundler passed an ordinace making the Council Presidency a four-year term running concurrent with the Mayor's term, Harvey cannot be removed in a July Reorganization, and will maintain the position as Acting Mayor until the special election is held in November. : : Harvey Smith is now Acting Mayor. My understanding is that he also is still a member of the City Council and is the Council President. : : Is the same true for Interim Mayor? If a Council-member becomes Interim Mayor, do they remain on the Council. : : Jersey City saw this about a dozen years ago when Rakowski was Interim Mayor. I don't remember if he stayed on the Council. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3582 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 30, 2004 at 18:25:41 Subject: Tom who? Who's Tom in City Hall? Are you confusing Jersey City Deputy Mayor Anthony Cruz with the actor Tom Cruise? Are you one of the characters from North Bergen that don't know anything about Jersey City besides Washburn Street? : bye bye Eugene Drayton and Puppet Tom. and don't come back to city hall. you were nothine but crooks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MAY THE MAYOR REST IN PEACE. posted Message 3583 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 01:10:52 Subject: May God give his family the strength to get thru these hard times. MAY THE MAYOR REST IN PEACE. May God give his family the strength to get thru these hard times. That said When the mayor died everybody either paid their respects via posts or if any negative vibes were sent out , they would post--Lets put aside all our complaints for now. Like a truce. Then people started posting how the political bosses are going to keep up the "GOOD WORK". And now people are starting to post their gripes. A 3 day truce. Good- he was a fine mayor. May he rest in peace. But this is the same man who when I asked "What about the drug problem in the Heights?' He replied "Re-elect me and in 2005 I will bring my drug program to the Heights". "WHAT?? " I said. "Why wait to get re-elected to get rid of an on-going problem?". I have seen the Heights go from Great to HELL. Almost every where I go in Jersey City s--ucks. Sure there are pockets here and there but mostly it s--ucks. I went to the north precint to report a drug problem in the Heights and I first spoke to a sargent. After he told me how they, the people who are "allegedly" dealing -amongst other things, have "Rights", I was asked if my friend lived in the house. When I told him "no" he replied "Do they have insurance??" I swear that is what he said. I have spoken to at least 5 police officers -from a regular cop up to a LT. . and I have yet to receive a phone call and the problem is still there. Even at 10Pm. when the noise ord. goes into effect the cops do not drive by and say something. What it looks like is the Heights is getting the shaft because it was so good back in the 50s' to 70's?? People just don't seem to care. They are only concerned about themselves and I can see why. Almost everyone I spoke to in the last year who works a regular job for the city--meter maid to fireman- act like they don't give 2 squats about the city. "Just let me get in my time and then collect" should be their club name. I remember when if you would talk to the guy driving the sweeper he liked it that you did not look down on him(I don't know why but some of them thought it was a being a servant). The garbage guys were friendly and the firemen hung out in front of the firehouse and you could go inside and get something to drink without them following you. That negative attitude toward the city is a major problem stoping the comeback of Jersey City. Nobody seems to notice that. If people would just look around and say "Enough'.... Sorry about the length but I could write a book on my feelings about what is happening in Jersey City. The fact that no-one seems to care enough to face up to the problem and at least try to do something ***************** End Of Article ****************** McClary posted Message 3584 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 07:31:18 Subject: Re: What happens to Ayala? I am sure Bill Ayala will do what is best and most in the interests of the city. We are sorely in need of his leadership now. He's a good man. I have full faith and confidence in his ability to lead during this time of crisis. We are lucky to have him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** peter fontana posted Message 3585 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 08:56:25 Subject: nice fluff piece : Nice Fluff Piece - : Now Senator tells us what you did for Joe Barry and the Applied Companies. : : FOR RELEASE: Immediate : : May 13, 2004 : : CONTACT: Jim Manion : : Tel: (609) 292-5215 : : KENNY BILL HELPS FAMILIES DEAL WITH GRIEF OF LOST LOVED ONE : : HOBOKEN - A Senate committee today approved a bill which its sponsor, Senator Bernard F. Kenny Jr., hopes will prevent what happened to the family of the late Hoboken civic leader Anna Fontana from ever happening again. : : "If good comes out of the travesty which was inflicted on the Fontana Family when Anna Fontana passed away, then that may be the only consolation," said Senator Kenny, D-Hoboken. : : Senator Kenny's bill, S-1534, would require hospitals to establish notification procedures for families of a patient who dies at their facility. The measure would upgrade the requirement from an existing regulation issued by the Department of Health. : : Peter and Frank Fontana said their acutely-ill, 83 year-old mother died last May at St. Barnabas Medical Center in Livingston, but that hospital staff initially told them simply that she was no longer a patient at the facility. Meanwhile, it wasn't until a full 10 hours after her death at 2 a.m. that morning that the family learned her body, in fact, had been transported to the hospital's morgue. : : "It's hard enough dealing with the loss of a parent or any close relative, but to put families through the uncertainties related to misinformation is unconscionable," Senator Kenny said. "This family couldn't find their mother's body for hours after her death." : : The Senate Health, Human Services and Senior Citizens Committee approved the bill at a meeting held today at Children's Specialized Hospital in Mountainside. It now awaits action by the full Senate. : : A doctor treating Mrs. Fontana claimed he notified her family, but the family denied they ever received a call and the hospital later disputed his claim. : : The Kenny measure would require confirmation and written documentation that notification of a patient's death had been made to a family member or to another designated person. : : Mrs. Fontana was the supervisor of elections for Hudson County in the absentee ballot division for nearly 30 years and was a former vice chair of the Hoboken Republican Party for 20 years. : : A subsequent probe by State Board of Medical Examiners cleared the doctor of any wrongdoing on grounds there was no state law requiring doctors to contact anyone concerning the death of a patient. Senator Kenny's measure would alter that situation. : : # ***************** End Of Article ****************** PETER FONTANA posted Message 3586 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 09:33:30 Subject: Re: nice fluff piece : : Nice Fluff Piece - : : Now Senator tells us what you did for Joe Barry and the Applied Companies. : : : FOR RELEASE: Immediate : : : May 13, 2004 : : : CONTACT: Jim Manion : : : Tel: (609) 292-5215 : : : KENNY BILL HELPS FAMILIES DEAL WITH GRIEF OF LOST LOVED ONE : : : HOBOKEN - A Senate committee today approved a bill which its sponsor, Senator Bernard F. Kenny Jr., hopes will prevent what happened to the family of the late Hoboken civic leader Anna Fontana from ever happening again. : : : "If good comes out of the travesty which was inflicted on the Fontana Family when Anna Fontana passed away, then that may be the only consolation," said Senator Kenny, D-Hoboken. : : : Senator Kenny's bill, S-1534, would require hospitals to establish notification procedures for families of a patient who dies at their facility. The measure would upgrade the requirement from an existing regulation issued by the Department of Health. : : : Peter and Frank Fontana said their acutely-ill, 83 year-old mother died last May at St. Barnabas Medical Center in Livingston, but that hospital staff initially told them simply that she was no longer a patient at the facility. Meanwhile, it wasn't until a full 10 hours after her death at 2 a.m. that morning that the family learned her body, in fact, had been transported to the hospital's morgue. : : : "It's hard enough dealing with the loss of a parent or any close relative, but to put families through the uncertainties related to misinformation is unconscionable," Senator Kenny said. "This family couldn't find their mother's body for hours after her death." : : : The Senate Health, Human Services and Senior Citizens Committee approved the bill at a meeting held today at Children's Specialized Hospital in Mountainside. It now awaits action by the full Senate. : : : A doctor treating Mrs. Fontana claimed he notified her family, but the family denied they ever received a call and the hospital later disputed his claim. : : : The Kenny measure would require confirmation and written documentation that notification of a patient's death had been made to a family member or to another designated person. : : : Mrs. Fontana was the supervisor of elections for Hudson County in the absentee ballot division for nearly 30 years and was a former vice chair of the Hoboken Republican Party for 20 years. : : : A subsequent probe by State Board of Medical Examiners cleared the doctor of any wrongdoing on grounds there was no state law requiring doctors to contact anyone concerning the death of a patient. Senator Kenny's measure would alter that situation. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM OR THINK YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SEN KENNY DO NOT USE MY MOM AS A MEANS TO JUSTIFY YOUR COMMENTS.EVERYONE HAS A MOM , DO YOU ? PETER FONTANA ***************** End Of Article ****************** Laugh Track posted Message 3587 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 10:32:17 Subject: Re: What happens to Ayala? I am sure Bill Ayala will do what is best and most in the interests of Bill Ayala. We are sorely in need of people who could peovide leadership. So Bill MUST GO. He's an idiot. I have full faith and confidence in the ability of the intrim Mayor to kick his butt outta City Hall. We are lucky he will be gone soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Run him out of town posted Message 3588 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 10:53:35 Subject: Blood on His Hands All Glenn wanted was to be Mayor. He was a great Mayor. He would have been one of the best. But Bill Ayala started the battle with Menendez and the other fools around Glenn pushed him past his breaking point. Glenn just wanted to be Mayor. If they would have let him just be Mayor he would still be here. Ayala and the others have blood on their hands. : I am sure Bill Ayala will do what is best and most in the interests of the city. We are sorely in need of his leadership now. He's a good man. I have full faith and confidence in his ability to lead during this time of crisis. We are lucky to have him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3589 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 12:00:14 Subject: You, can't wait until Glenn's buried? I expected this strategy to be deployed against Glenn's coalition: 1) Convince the Heights' residents that they were neglected 2) Demonize Glenn's associates The surprise is that the opposition is in too much of a hurry to wait until after the funeral. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3590 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 13:58:47 Subject: CBS News Video: Jersey City Mourns Glenn Cunningham To view the Online video, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3591 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 14:09:47 Subject: NBC Video: Jersey City Remembers Glenn Cunningham To view the Online Video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3592 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 15:11:20 Subject: UPN 9 Video: Paying Tribute to a Political Pioneer To access the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** richard bryant posted Message 3593 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 17:59:42 Subject: ar you under surveillance AR YOU UNDER SURVEILLANCE BY NEIGHBORHOODS WATCH OR VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS OR CRIME WATCH MOBILE PATROL .IN THE UNITED STATES.START WITH THE U.S.A PATRIOT ACT .AND YOU AR A AMERICAN CITIZEN IT IS ILLEGAL. HELP ME FILE LAW SUIT FOR VIOLATING HOUR CIVIL RIGHTS. HELP ME RICHARD AT hhstudio@sbcglobal.net ***************** End Of Article ****************** So Sad for Sandy posted Message 3594 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 18:38:42 Subject: Re: Blood on His Hands If I was asked I would build Bill Ayala's political casket for free. He killed our "Mayor Man" with his own greed for power. He killed Mayor Man with his political battles. He killed Mayor Man and he deserves to be thrown out of Jersey City. I can't believe they are gonna let him talk at the funeral. Sandy, honey, be smart and get away from this fella before he kills you too. May Glenn rest easy with the angels. : All Glenn wanted was to be Mayor. He was a great Mayor. He would have been one of the best. But Bill Ayala started the battle with Menendez and the other fools around Glenn pushed him past his breaking point. Glenn just wanted to be Mayor. If they would have let him just be Mayor he would still be here. Ayala and the others have blood on their hands. : : I am sure Bill Ayala will do what is best and most in the interests of the city. We are sorely in need of his leadership now. He's a good man. I have full faith and confidence in his ability to lead during this time of crisis. We are lucky to have him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaaughan Strikes posted Message 3595 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 18:44:17 Subject: Re: You, can't wait until Glenn's buried? Expect anything less from Gaughan? : I expected this strategy to be deployed against Glenn's coalition: : 1) Convince the Heights' residents that they were neglected : 2) Demonize Glenn's associates : The surprise is that the opposition is in too much of a hurry to wait until after the funeral. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3596 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 19:00:24 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3597 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 19:10:05 Subject: ABC News: Thousands Pay Respect to Jersey City's First Black Mayor Thousands Pay Respect to Jersey City's First Black Mayor By Ken Rosato (Jersey City-WABC, May 30, 2004) . . . It was a somber scene when the mayor's body arrived. Police were lined up in an honor guard as the body of the late mayor was brought to City Hall for the last time. Barricades are up already in anticipation of the thousands of people expected to pay their respects to Glen Cunningham. . . . To read the complete article and access the video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** richard bryant posted Message 3598 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 19:14:41 Subject: ar you under surveillance AR YOU UNDER SURVEILLANCE BY NEIGHBORHOODS WATCH OR VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS OR CRIME WATCH MOBILE PATROL .IN THE UNITED STATES.START WITH THE U.S.A PATRIOT ACT .AND YOU AR A AMERICAN CITIZEN IT IS ILLEGAL. HELP ME FILE LAW SUIT FOR VIOLATING HOUR CIVIL RIGHTS. HELP ME RICHARD AT hhstudio@sbcglobal.net ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ludovico posted Message 3599 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 19:23:37 Subject: It's not over. The sad fact is .. the people who were behind Cunningham and dirtying his name are still here. And they are planning to regain power. Mayor Smith, if you've forgotten, these are the people who called you Uncle Harvey. The people who ran cartoons in the UTN showing you supporting white racists. These are the same people who printed horrible lies and innuendoes about Congressman Menendez and Senator Kenny. And now they are poised to run Sandra Cunningham so they can continue their corrupt backroom deals and racist agenda. Mayor Smith, it's not over. We need to gather together to insure that Joe Cardwell, Bobby Jackson and Gene Drayton never run the City again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3600 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 19:25:57 Subject: Glenn Cunningham Comic Book: The Adventures of Mayor-Man To read the comic Online, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3601 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 19:26:28 Subject: Time waits for no man. There are only 6 short months to undo the damage Cardwell, Jackson and Drayton have done. And to make sure they don't regain power. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3602 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 19:28:20 Subject: I'm sure .. someday it will be a collector's item ... NOT !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3603 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 19:41:23 Subject: Knock yourself out. You've got 5 months. : There are only 6 short months to undo the damage Cardwell, Jackson and Drayton have done. And to make sure they don't regain power. ***************** End Of Article ****************** myw posted Message 3604 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : May 31, 2004 at 23:12:45 Subject: ? While it's true that "Cunningham's family should not have to schedule the funeral around the schedule of taxpayers schedules", it's also true that they didn't have to turn his death into a 3 day spectacle. Nobody asked the taxpayers whether or not we wanted to pick up the tab for a city workers' day off, police and fire overtime, and blocked streets. By all accounts, Cunningham was a nice guy, but whose ego does this feed? And at what cost? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3605 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2004 at 08:10:22 Subject: NJN Video: Jersey City Says Goodbye to Glenn Cunningham To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lost all respect for Sandy Cunningham posted Message 3606 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2004 at 08:51:07 Subject: No Class I write this with no disrespect for Mayor Cunningham.This should be a time of mourning and healing but what I just read is unbelievable.I praise acting Mayor L Harvey Smith for allowing the family to give Mayor Cunningham a funeral made for a King.At the end of the day this will cost the tax payers close to a Million dollars and he will certainly get the brunt of it. He allowed Drayton and company to stay in City hall and out of respect for Sandy and Glenn made no changes yet he goes to a public viewing in city hall that he is the Mayor of and is asked to leave............SHAME ON YOU DRAYTON.IN ADDITION, IF THIS IS SANDY'S WISHES SHAME ON HER TOO! Acting Mayor Smith says he was barred from Cunningham's public viewing Tuesday, June 01, 2004 Acting Mayor and City Council President L. Harvey Smith said he was barred from entering the rotunda at City Hall yesterday morning to pay his respects to Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. At about 10 a.m., when Smith said he arrived at City Hall, where Cunningham's casket had been open for public viewing for two days, a police lieutenant told him that he could not enter the building, Smith said. The lieutenant said he was relaying a message from Deputy Mayor Eugene G. Drayton that Sandra Bolden-Cunningham, the mayor's widow, did not want Smith allowed inside to see her husband, Smith said. Smith and Cunningham were frequent political adversaries. Cunningham defeated Smith in the Democratic primary for state Senate last year. City spokesman Stan H. Eason said he was unaware of the incident. Drayton could not be reached for comment yesterday. Smith, who was attending a Memorial Day service at Pershing Field yesterday, would only confirm that he was barred from City Hall, but would not provide further details. "I was in shock and saddened by the news (of the mayor's death). I wanted to pay my last respects in an inconspicuous, unobtrusive way," Smith said yesterday. "I have no other choice but to deal with the wishes of Mrs. Cunningham and the family . In deference to the family, I feel that enough has been said." ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3607 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2004 at 14:30:33 Subject: CBS 2 News: Somber Farewell For Jersey City Mayor To access the video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3608 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2004 at 14:36:51 Subject: WNBC: Horse-Drawn Hearse Carries Mayor's Body Through Streets Of City To read the AP story and to access the NBC video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3609 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2004 at 17:46:03 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show -- May 31, 2004 Remembering Mayor Glenn Cunningham -- Freeholder Bill O'Dea and Frmr. Mayor Anthony Cucci are Pat's guests. To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Strong will Survive posted Message 3610 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 01, 2004 at 22:11:26 Subject: Thank You Gene Drayton Thank you Gene Drayton so very very much it could not have been done without you. Todays tribute to Jersey City's Great Glenn Cunningham will go down in history, In addition I wish to thank the United States Attorney Chris Chrisite for his wonderful remarks about Glenn , Sandy and the evil forces they had to deal with. I noted very little applause coming from the HCDO section when the U.S. Attorney spoke. Governor looked shocked at Christie's insightful remarks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3611 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 09:16:12 Subject: NJN Video: Glenn Cunningham's Funeral To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3612 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 09:35:01 Subject: Thank the stars it's over !!!! If I had to hear one more time about the "maverick" Glenn Cunningham .. or about his legacy .. or about the love all Jersey City had for him .. I was gonna hurl !!!! It's amazing to see all the pols in their sack cloth and ashes, spouting platitudes about the greatness of the man. HELLO !!!!! Cunningham was an adequate Mayor at best. You would have thought it was a funeral for a President or a King the way this thing was overdone. And now we are left with the unfortunate spectre of the Cardwell, Jackson, Drayton cloud looming on the November horizon. BTW ... is this the Glenn and Sandra Cunningham Memorial Video Page ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3613 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 09:52:28 Subject: For the Glenn Cunningham Memorial Page, please see the Link . . . : BTW ... is this the Glenn and Sandra Cunningham Memorial Video Page ? For the Glenn Cunningham Memorial Page, please see the Link. Alive and well, there's no need for a Sandra Cunningham memorial Page. There are many more chapters on the way for the Sandra Cunningham story. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise Face Turned Red posted Message 3614 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 10:15:08 Subject: When Chris Christie Spoke U.S. Attorney Christopher Chrisite made a wonderful speech at Glenn's memorial - why did Tom DeGise's face turn beet red when the U.S. Attorney spoke such true words ??? To those not fortunate to be present- "Glen Did Not Die in Vain" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3615 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 10:29:01 Subject: HA !!! Dang Anthony ... Both a Bret and Sandra kissup !!! What a combo !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3616 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 10:33:28 Subject: Beware the power of the Dark Side We evil godless liberals will vanquish Sandra's "knight in shining armor". You freaking Cunningham people always talking about evil doers and God. You're as bad as Bush !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3617 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 10:35:50 Subject: Glenn's legacy. Glenn did not die in vain. He died so weasels like Cardwell, Jackson and Drayton could prosper. ***************** End Of Article ****************** IknowEverything posted Message 3618 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 11:36:43 Subject: Sidd Vicious is little Jim kennelly Just a point of information. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3619 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 11:45:09 Subject: Re: Sidd Vicious is little Jim kennelly Kennelly obsession seems to be running rampant these days. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chris Christie KNOWS THE TRUTH posted Message 3620 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 11:58:38 Subject: US Attorney Mentioned Evil Doers : We evil godless liberals will vanquish Sandra's "knight in shining armor". : You freaking Cunningham people always talking about evil doers and God. You're as bad as Bush !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3621 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 12:02:32 Subject: Christie is busy running for Governor. He'll have to lose some weight though .. or he'll end up like Glenn. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3622 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 13:23:51 Subject: Check the numbers When a politician dies suddenly, the wife inherits all of their positive numbers and none of the negatives. Voter turnout will be higher, too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3623 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 17:40:28 Subject: NJN News: Bernard Kenny says that Sandra Cunningham and Joe Doria are running for the 31st Senate Seat Bernard Kenny said on NJN News that Sandra Cunningham and Joe Doria are running for State Senator for the 31st District. That seat is now vacant because of the passing of Glenn Cunningha, ***************** End Of Article ****************** shortee posted Message 3624 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 19:32:17 Subject: Re: NJN News: Bernard Kenny says that Sandra Cunningham and Joe Doria are running for the 31st Senate Seat : Bernard Kenny said on NJN News that Sandra Cunningham and Joe Doria are running for State Senator for the 31st District. That seat is now vacant because of the passing of Glenn Cunnin P.S. That seat is to suppose to go to Sandy, all the other Senators wifes just got it without running for it, what's this all about: We Will Protest To Trentor: ***************** End Of Article ****************** shortee posted Message 3625 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 19:42:16 Subject: Re: Christie is busy running for Governor. : He'll have to lose some weight though .. or he'll end up like Glenn. you have are a sick person, racist too, and heartless ***************** End Of Article ****************** shortee posted Message 3626 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 19:45:52 Subject: Re: ? : While it's true that "Cunningham's family should not have to schedule the funeral around the schedule of taxpayers schedules", it's also true that they didn't have to turn his death into a 3 day spectacle. Nobody asked the taxpayers whether or not we wanted to pick up the tab for a city workers' day off, police and fire overtime, and blocked streets. By all accounts, Cunningham was a nice guy, but whose ego does this feed? And at what cost? let's see what kind of funeral you have, or do people love you like they love Sandy and Glenn (may god bless his soul:) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3627 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 19:50:34 Subject: The Devil Made Me Do It Bwahahahahahahahaha !!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** shortee posted Message 3628 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 19:51:07 Subject: Re: No Class : I write this with no disrespect for Mayor Cunningham.This should be a time of mourning and healing but what I just read is unbelievable.I praise acting Mayor L Harvey Smith for allowing the family to give Mayor Cunningham a funeral made for a King.At the end of the day this will cost the tax payers close to a Million dollars and he will certainly get the brunt of it. He allowed Drayton and company to stay in City hall and out of respect for Sandy and Glenn made no changes yet he goes to a public viewing in city hall that he is the Mayor of and is asked to leave............SHAME ON YOU DRAYTON.IN ADDITION, IF THIS IS SANDY'S WISHES SHAME ON HER TOO! : Acting Mayor Smith says he was barred from Cunningham's public viewing Tuesday, June 01, 2004 Acting Mayor and City Council President L. Harvey Smith said he was barred from entering the rotunda at City Hall yesterday morning to pay his respects to Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. At about 10 a.m., when Smith said he arrived at City Hall, where Cunningham's casket had been open for public viewing for two days, a police lieutenant told him that he could not enter the building, Smith said. The lieutenant said he was relaying a message from Deputy Mayor Eugene G. Drayton that Sandra Bolden-Cunningham, the mayor's widow, did not want Smith allowed inside to see her husband, Smith said. Smith and Cunningham were frequent political adversaries. Cunningham defeated Smith in the Democratic primary for state Senate last year. City spokesman Stan H. Eason said he was unaware of the incident. Drayton could not be reached for comment yesterday. Smith, who was attending a Memorial Day service at Pershing Field yesterday, would only confirm that he was barred from City Hall, but would not provide further details. "I was in shock and saddened by the news (of the mayor's death). I wanted to pay my last respects in an inconspicuous, unobtrusive way," Smith said yesterday. "I have no other choice but to deal with the wishes of Mrs. Cunningham and the family . In deference to the family, I feel that enough has been said." Harvey should have left it alone when he asked last week, he knew he was not invited all alone so why even beg to attain: ***************** End Of Article ****************** shortee posted Message 3629 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 19:53:35 Subject: Re: When Chris Christie Spoke : U.S. Attorney Christopher Chrisite made a wonderful speech at Glenn's memorial - why did Tom DeGise's face turn beet red when the U.S. Attorney spoke such true words ??? : To those not fortunate to be present- : "Glen Did Not Die in Vain" If you can't read between the lines then go back to school: if you are clean then you should not have had a red face: ***************** End Of Article ****************** shortee posted Message 3630 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 19:56:58 Subject: Re: Glenn's legacy. : Glenn did not die in vain. He died so weasels like Cardwell, Jackson and Drayton could prosper. Yes they will because they are smart black men and they didn't put the slave chain back on like Harvey Smith: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not to hard to guess who you really is. posted Message 3631 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 20:04:19 Subject: aneesah10@aol.com NY Giants ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3632 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 20:11:52 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3633 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 20:48:57 Subject: HA !!! Chains huh shortee ? I didn't know you were into that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** *** posted Message 3634 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 21:19:41 Subject: Re: Time The damage is already done!!!!!!!!! Now there is a real power struggle within. We'll have to wait and see. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Primogeniture Rocks!! posted Message 3635 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 22:22:34 Subject: Re: NJN News: Bernard Kenny says that Sandra Cunningham and Joe Doria are running for the 31st Senate Seat How is it that a Senate seat becomes chattel to be passed on to one's heirs upon a Senator's demise? Kindly explain this. If this is the case and the seat can be passed along to heirs, what about Glenn's son? Shouldn't he have a crack at it too? Sandy wasn't elected...it should go to whomever is elected by the majority of the voters. Kindly also advise who these other Senators wives were that "just got it without running for it". : P.S. That seat is to suppose to go to Sandy, all the other Senators wifes just got it without running for it, what's this all about: We Will Protest To Trentor: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Grace and Dignity above all else posted Message 3636 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2004 at 22:29:23 Subject: Re: No Class As this was a public viewing and held in a public building, I don't see how anyone should have been barred from entry. Mayor Smith showed real class in the face of a classless act. It would behoove people to let the politics go to the wayside in a time like this and show some grace and dignity. There is a time and a place for everything but this wasn't the time nor the place. Sandy lost a lot of respect among some diehard Glenn supporters with that act. : : I write this with no disrespect for Mayor Cunningham.This should be a time of mourning and healing but what I just read is unbelievable.I praise acting Mayor L Harvey Smith for allowing the family to give Mayor Cunningham a funeral made for a King.At the end of the day this will cost the tax payers close to a Million dollars and he will certainly get the brunt of it. He allowed Drayton and company to stay in City hall and out of respect for Sandy and Glenn made no changes yet he goes to a public viewing in city hall that he is the Mayor of and is asked to leave............SHAME ON YOU DRAYTON.IN ADDITION, IF THIS IS SANDY'S WISHES SHAME ON HER TOO! : : Acting Mayor Smith says he was barred from Cunningham's public viewing Tuesday, June 01, 2004 Acting Mayor and City Council President L. Harvey Smith said he was barred from entering the rotunda at City Hall yesterday morning to pay his respects to Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. At about 10 a.m., when Smith said he arrived at City Hall, where Cunningham's casket had been open for public viewing for two days, a police lieutenant told him that he could not enter the building, Smith said. The lieutenant said he was relaying a message from Deputy Mayor Eugene G. Drayton that Sandra Bolden-Cunningham, the mayor's widow, did not want Smith allowed inside to see her husband, Smith said. Smith and Cunningham were frequent political adversaries. Cunningham defeated Smith in the Democratic primary for state Senate last year. City spokesman Stan H. Eason said he was unaware of the incident. Drayton could not be reached for comment yesterday. Smith, who was attending a Memorial Day service at Pershing Field yesterday, would only confirm that he was barred from City Hall, but would not provide further details. "I was in shock and saddened by the news (of the mayor's death). I wanted to pay my last respects in an inconspicuous, unobtrusive way," Smith said yesterday. "I have no other choice but to deal with the wishes of Mrs. Cunningham and the family . In deference to the family, I feel that enough has been said." : : Harvey should have left it alone when he asked last week, he knew he was not invited all alone so why even beg to attain: ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3637 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2004 at 05:21:00 Subject: NJN Video: Sandra Cunningham, Joe Doria Vie for State Senate Seat To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3638 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2004 at 09:49:41 Subject: If y'er gonna use big words. . . . . .use 'em right. Y'er confusin' primogeniture with inheritance. Primogeniture -- as the most cursory knowledge of Latin reveals -- is the system of inheritance (as practiced among the British aristocracy) where the entire estate goes to the first born (son?). And, BTW, the goal of political discourse is to sway the people that DON'T AGREE WITH YOU! Yammerin' on with the sole intent/purpose of convincin' yer comps/buddies that y'er a wit is pretty pointless. : How is it that a Senate seat becomes chattel to be passed on to one's heirs upon a Senator's demise? Kindly explain this. If this is the case and the seat can be passed along to heirs, what about Glenn's son? Shouldn't he have a crack at it too? : Sandy wasn't elected...it should go to whomever is elected by the majority of the voters. Kindly also advise who these other Senators wives were that "just got it without running for it". : : P.S. That seat is to suppose to go to Sandy, all the other Senators wifes just got it without running for it, what's this all about: We Will Protest To Trentor: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blacks Not welcome posted Message 3639 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2004 at 10:52:13 Subject: Vote out of Bayonne Why did Senator Kenny ,want to vote out of south Bayonne?He is following Menenedz orders.Jersey City loses again to the inside boys.Us Blacks are not welcome into the party. So be it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fed Up posted Message 3640 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2004 at 12:46:55 Subject: Re: HA !!! Why is it that every time a black man is questioned about his honesty, or abilities...all we hear in return is "chains and salvery and keepin the black man down". Sorry, but its drugs and fatherless homes and the black man not taking responsibility for his own children, and the condition of his community, and his own addictions, and his lack of education .... that is what's holding the black man down. The white man is not gettin your women pregnant and then running away. The white man is not making you drop out of school and hang out on corners. The white man is not telling you to lite up the crack pipe. The white man is not your devil. Black on Black crime is adding more to our crime rate in this city than any other sector. Your devil is within. If you want to break the chains of poverty try starting with some personal responsibility. : Chains huh shortee ? I didn't know you were into that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Primo posted Message 3641 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 03, 2004 at 14:06:48 Subject: Re: If y'er gonna use big words. . . That's exactly what I meant. I know full well the meaning of the word "primogeniture". My comment was directed at shortee who said that the Senate seat should go to Sandy (as if this seat was inheritable). I brought up the fact that there was a son who should be entitled to claim a piece of the inheritance (if we use shortee's logic, of course). And I am still waitin' on shortee's answers. : . . .use 'em right. : Y'er confusin' primogeniture with inheritance. Primogeniture -- as the most cursory knowledge of Latin reveals -- is the system of inheritance (as practiced among the British aristocracy) where the entire estate goes to the first born (son?). : And, BTW, the goal of political discourse is to sway the people that DON'T AGREE WITH YOU! Yammerin' on with the sole intent/purpose of convincin' yer comps/buddies that y'er a wit is pretty pointless. : : How is it that a Senate seat becomes chattel to be passed on to one's heirs upon a Senator's demise? Kindly explain this. If this is the case and the seat can be passed along to heirs, what about Glenn's son? Shouldn't he have a crack at it too? : : Sandy wasn't elected...it should go to whomever is elected by the majority of the voters. Kindly also advise who these other Senators wives were that "just got it without running for it". : : : P.S. That seat is to suppose to go to Sandy, all the other Senators wifes just got it without running for it, what's this all about: We Will Protest To Trentor: ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3642 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2004 at 11:10:46 Subject: Appy Polly loggies to you Yeah, now I see how your mention of the son acts as a keystone for the arch. It is common practice for the wife of a politician to fill out a term. Kids can camapaign on the name, but run they must. : That's exactly what I meant. I know full well the meaning of the word "primogeniture". My comment was directed at shortee who said that the Senate seat should go to Sandy (as if this seat was inheritable). I brought up the fact that there was a son who should be entitled to claim a piece of the inheritance (if we use shortee's logic, of course). : And I am still waitin' on shortee's answers. : : . . .use 'em right. : : Y'er confusin' primogeniture with inheritance. Primogeniture -- as the most cursory knowledge of Latin reveals -- is the system of inheritance (as practiced among the British aristocracy) where the entire estate goes to the first born (son?). : : And, BTW, the goal of political discourse is to sway the people that DON'T AGREE WITH YOU! Yammerin' on with the sole intent/purpose of convincin' yer comps/buddies that y'er a wit is pretty pointless. : : : How is it that a Senate seat becomes chattel to be passed on to one's heirs upon a Senator's demise? Kindly explain this. If this is the case and the seat can be passed along to heirs, what about Glenn's son? Shouldn't he have a crack at it too? : : : Sandy wasn't elected...it should go to whomever is elected by the majority of the voters. Kindly also advise who these other Senators wives were that "just got it without running for it". : : : : P.S. That seat is to suppose to go to Sandy, all the other Senators wifes just got it without running for it, what's this all about: We Will Protest To Trentor: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Primo posted Message 3643 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2004 at 14:07:45 Subject: Re: Appy Polly loggies to you We're cool. Thanks. I know that there have been some sporadic cases where a wife would be elected after her office holder husband dies but I am unaware of any such "common practice" for the wife (or husband) of a sitting elected official to hold the seat for the balance of the term. Can you give some examples because I just can't see it. I can see if the wife runs for office (such as Mrs. C will most likely do) but I don't see her taking office without being elected to it as a right of inheritance. This is one of the reasons why the United States was formed back in the 18th century with a President instead of a King...so no one family could hold the power of head of state. It ensures a more democratic form of government than a monarchy does. Only 3x (that I am aware of---there could be state or local exceptions that I am not aware of) in more than 200 years of US History do we have family members holding the same political office (John and John Q. Adams, Theodore and Franklin Roosevelt--cousins and George and George W. Bush). It's a rarity in our national history (although I admit that Hudson County is a "bit" different than the rest of the US. Still waiting on shortee's answer. : Yeah, now I see how your mention of the son acts as a keystone for the arch. : It is common practice for the wife of a politician to fill out a term. Kids can camapaign on the name, but run they must. : : : That's exactly what I meant. I know full well the meaning of the word "primogeniture". My comment was directed at shortee who said that the Senate seat should go to Sandy (as if this seat was inheritable). I brought up the fact that there was a son who should be entitled to claim a piece of the inheritance (if we use shortee's logic, of course). : : And I am still waitin' on shortee's answers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3644 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2004 at 14:49:55 Subject: Re: Appy Polly loggies to you I'm not talking about the 5 year balance of the term. I just mean the 5 months until the general election. For this short "grief" term, it seems fairly usual for the wife to serve. Of course, sudden death is not common. : We're cool. Thanks. : I know that there have been some sporadic cases where a wife would be elected after her office holder husband dies but I am unaware of any such "common practice" for the wife (or husband) of a sitting elected official to hold the seat for the balance of the term. Can you give some examples because I just can't see it. I can see if the wife runs for office (such as Mrs. C will most likely do) but I don't see her taking office without being elected to it as a right of inheritance. : This is one of the reasons why the United States was formed back in the 18th century with a President instead of a King...so no one family could hold the power of head of state. It ensures a more democratic form of government than a monarchy does. Only 3x (that I am aware of---there could be state or local exceptions that I am not aware of) in more than 200 years of US History do we have family members holding the same political office (John and John Q. Adams, Theodore and Franklin Roosevelt--cousins and George and George W. Bush). It's a rarity in our national history (although I admit that Hudson County is a "bit" different than the rest of the US. : Still waiting on shortee's answer. : : Yeah, now I see how your mention of the son acts as a keystone for the arch. : : It is common practice for the wife of a politician to fill out a term. Kids can camapaign on the name, but run they must. : : : : : That's exactly what I meant. I know full well the meaning of the word "primogeniture". My comment was directed at shortee who said that the Senate seat should go to Sandy (as if this seat was inheritable). I brought up the fact that there was a son who should be entitled to claim a piece of the inheritance (if we use shortee's logic, of course). : : : And I am still waitin' on shortee's answers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Russo Civic Association posted Message 3645 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2004 at 16:40:50 Subject: PROJECT SOS -- SUPPORT OUR SOLDIERS Letter to the Editor Hoboken Reporter 1400 Washington Street Hoboken, NJ 07030 Dear Editor: The Russo Civic Association has been designated as a Chapter in the “PROJECT SOS”. “SUPPORT OUR SOLDIERS” is the brainchild of Marlboro resident Andrea Mesh, “I knew if I asked people, they would help”, Mesh said. The program works this way. Hoboken residents who are serving or have relatives serving need to register with the Civic Association, either by phone 201.792.226, e-mail (russocivic@optonline.net) or stop by at 420 Adams Street any evening. Anyone wishing to donate any of the following requested items can deliver them to the Russo Civic Association at 420 Adams Street any Monday beginning June 7, 2004 from 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM or call 201-792-6226 to arrange a pick up, if necessary. Some suggestions: Dry Drink Mixes (Iced Tea, lemonade, Gatorade) * Tuna Fish * Microwave popcorn * Pasta meals * Reading Material * Children’s books (to hand out to Iraqi children) * Toys for kids * Licorice * Candy (individually wrapped) to hand out to Iraqi children * American Flags (to hand out) * Sunglasses * Office Products (pens, pads, folders) * Chips & Salsa * Disposable cameras * International phone cards * Pillows * DVD’s * Cards * Board Games * Baby wipes * Flushable Wipes * Personal Hygiene Items * Blow-up Mattresses * Twin size sheets * Footballs * Frisbees * Vitamins * Socks Underwear * T-shirts * It is very important that our soldiers not only receive “Items from the homeland”, but also know that many people are supporting them and their families. Knowing people from their hometown are concerned with their well-being helps their morale. Thank you in advance for giving your time and efforts to this worthwhile cause. Sincerely, Michael Russo Third Ward Councilperson & Theresa Castellano First Ward Councilperson ***************** End Of Article ****************** Russo Civic Association posted Message 3646 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2004 at 17:08:25 Subject: DCA Letter City Council City of Hoboken 94 Washington Street Hoboken, NJ 07030 Theresa Castellano Carol Marsh Michael Russo Anthony Soares June 3, 2004 Director Susan Jacobucci NJ Division of Local Government Services 101 South Broad Street PO Box 800 Trenton, NJ 08625-0800 Dear Director Jacobucci: We are in receipt of your letter of June 1, 2004. We note with concern that it does not seem to be informed by the serious issues we raised in our letter of May 24, 2004. A copy of that letter is attached for your convenience. Responding to your latest letter, we are troubled by some the assumptions you make. While it is true that “New Jersey Statutes provide municipalities with the legal power to make budgetary changes when situations arise that are unexpected or beyond the control of the elected officials,” neither of those two essential conditions – “unexpected” nor “beyond the control”- have been demonstrated in this case. These overexpenditures do not appear to have been unexpected. For many months now, as discussed in our May 24th letter, this administration has been questioned closely about the serious possibility that this particular line item was being overspent. While it is possible that recent billings have shown dramatic and unforeseen increases, necessitating an emergency appropriation, no such evidence has been presented to the council nor have we seen an analysis of expenditures from this account throughout the year. Without these showings, we cannot support a conclusion that these costs were unexpected; nor would we expect the Division to sustain our conclusion were we to do so. This problem was also not “beyond the control of the elected officials.” The Mayor, in the budget that he presented to the Council (which provided for no increase over last year’s expenditure for Group Health Insurance) and those Council people who voted to adopt that budget, failed to provide adequately for the true cost of running the City. As you know, improper budgeting is not a valid reason for an emergency appropriation. We are of course vitally concerned with the City’s fiscal integrity and have demonstrated that concern repeatedly. We have written several letters to your office detailing facts and circumstances which could reasonably have justified an investigation by your office under the provisions of NJSA 52:27BB-47. Instead, your office has demanded that the Council approve emergency appropriations You cite as your authority for this demand NJSA 52:27BB-48. But this statute is limited: 52:27BB-48. Special investigation; enforcement of orders The director may issue such orders as he may find appropriate to correct errors, inaccuracies or omissions in the report of audit or recommendations, illegal financial practices, or irregularities in the conduct of financial affairs, disclosed at an investigation made in accordance with section forty-seven of this act. Orders may be enforced in accordance with sections fifty and fifty-two of this act. The statue authorizes the enforcement of such orders against improper actions “disclosed at an investigation made in accordance with section forty-seven of this act”. In this instance, no such investigation has occurred. Therefore your authority to make the demands contained in your letter is not supported. Even if you had the authority to order an emergency appropriation in this case, doing so would be inappropriate, as an investigation would demonstrate. First, failure to pass such an appropriation will not jeopardize the health and safety of Hoboken residents. The contracts which impact these line items are already in effect and, even if they were approved based on faulty representation, they must ultimately must be paid. Interruption of coverage is not an option. To the extent that contracts have been adopted which exceed the line items provided for their payment, the fiscal irregularity and violation of budget law has already occurred. Passing an emergency appropriation at this point would only serve to relieve the Mayor, the Business Administrator, and the CFO of their responsibilities. Rather than try to retroactively justify their actions by emergency appropriations, the fiscal integrity of Hoboken would be better served by holding these individuals accountable for what they have done. As for the budget transfers, we would carefully consider those presented to us once we have received a full and complete accounting, certified by our independent auditors, of the actual state of each line item on the SFY2004 budget. We note that by statute such transfers can be made through September 30, 2004, both reducing the need for urgency and creating the possibility for a full, certified accounting prior to taking action. We do wish to thank you for your involvement. Should you elect to conduct an investigation under the provisions of NJSA 52:27BB-47, we would applaud that decision, but would encourage you seek information from all involved parties prior to recommending further action. We are confident that any recommendations based on such an investigation would be consistent with statute and meet with our support. We look forward to your future correspondence. Sincerely, Theresa Castellano Carol Marsh Hoboken City Councilwoman Hoboken City Councilwoman Michael Russo Anthony Soares Hoboken City Councilman Hoboken City Councilman cc: Mayor David Roberts Hand Delivered James Farina – City Clerk Hand Delivered Ruben Ramos Jr, Council President Hand Delivered Richard Del Boccio – 2nd Ward Hand Delivered Chris Campos – 4th Ward Hand Delivered Michael Cricco – 5th Ward Hand Delivered Nino Giacchi – 6th Ward Hand Delivered Louie Piccardo – Interim CFO Hand Delivered Matty Cannorozzi – Comptroller Hand Delivered Lou Roberts – Ernst & Young Metro Park 99Wood Avenue South, Iselin, NJ 08830-0471 Randy Nelson – RMA Ernst & Young Metro Park 99 Wood Avenue South, Iselin, NJ 08830-0471 Marc Pfeiffer – DLGS 101 South Broad Street, Trenton, NJ 08625-0800 Judith Tripodi – DLGS 101South Broad Street, Trenton, NJ 08625-0800 Susan Bass Levin – DCA Commissioner, 101 South Broad Street, Trenton, NJ 08625-0803 Mr. Charles Guhr – Commissioner 205 E. Syracuse Avenue, Wildwood Crest, NJ 08260 Mr. Richard F. Turner Commissioner 400 Park Avenue, Weehawken, NJ 07087 Ms. Charlotte DeFilippo Commissioner 65 King Street, Hillside NJ 07205 Mr. Scott R MacFadden Commissioner 401 Chambers Bridge Road, Brick NJ 08723 Honorable John H Ewing Commissioner P O Box 352, Bedminster, NJ 07921 Mr. James Harkness Commissioner 50 West State Street Suite 1010 Trenton, NJ 08608-1220 Mr. Ted Light Commissioner 22 Ocean Lane South Seaside Park, NJ 08752 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nipper posted Message 3647 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2004 at 19:27:35 Subject: Maureen Corcoran does a backflip? Story going the hall that the Mayor's Action Bureau is now working for Gaughan. They got the job to pass out how they please but what can she hand back for it is a good guess. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Walter posted Message 3648 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2004 at 20:19:44 Subject: TV of funeral all messy The funeral on Jersey City cable got a buzz and the voices is so low that no words can make sense. THe lights like a funny bright to so the colors are faded. Maybe the film was messed up on purpose to insult the memory of Glenn Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wants to Win In Jersey City posted Message 3649 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2004 at 20:21:04 Subject: WARNING About Menendez Boss Menendez and his henchmen are very busy these days telling all provisional Jersey City Employees that their jobs can be saved. Menendez's goons are telling city worker -IF they support Menendez and Column A in the Primary this Coming Tuesday - they will get to keep their city jobs. These are empty promises told to desperate individuals who fear for their income. MENENDEZ IS DOING THIS SO HE WINS JERSEY CITY. THE FACT IS - There is no guarantee whatsoever that come Wendsday Boss Menendez and his goons will still fire whoever they want. Bob Menendez's track record of destroying anyone who helps him - is legendary. The list of Menendez's victim who have been used, abused and thrown away is a long one. It starts with Musto, then Dario then Garcia and even his own wife Jane Jacobsen Menendez got thrown away. If you think you can make a deal with Bob Menendez just look at what he did to the people who did more for him than most can. ***************** End Of Article ****************** *** posted Message 3650 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2004 at 20:37:44 Subject: Re:Menendez Menendez will win the election anyway. Why is Fulop running in the first place? ***************** End Of Article ****************** *** posted Message 3651 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2004 at 20:48:48 Subject: Who will be left in City Hall? Who else are they getting rid of? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3652 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2004 at 22:48:44 Subject: Hopefully none of them !! Off with all of their heads !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3653 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 04, 2004 at 22:51:21 Subject: Messy. Sounds like the Cunningham Legacy. A mess that someone else will need to clean up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Bill posted Message 3654 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 10:15:16 Subject: Ayala Toasted POLITICSNJ.COM - - - Two top aides to the late Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham were fired today by the interim Mayor, L. Harvey Smith: Deputy Mayor Eugene Drayon and Chief of Staff William Ayala. Cunningham's press secretary, Stan Eason, will remain on the city payroll, but in a different position. Sources say that Smith dispatched a law enforcement officer to Ayala's home to deliver his termination notice. (06/04/04) ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3655 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 10:38:05 Subject: Cruz stays on? Smith is letting Deputy Mayor Anthony Cruz stay? : POLITICSNJ.COM - - - Two top aides to the late Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham were fired today by the interim Mayor, L. Harvey Smith: Deputy Mayor Eugene Drayon and Chief of Staff William Ayala. : Cunningham's press secretary, Stan Eason, will remain on the city payroll, but in a different position. : Sources say that Smith dispatched a law enforcement officer to Ayala's home to deliver his termination notice. (06/04/04) ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3656 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 10:42:08 Subject: JC1 TV in orbit or what? Yesterday, it seems that canned shows from NASA were playing all day. Right now, nothing comes in at all for JC1 TV -- not even a test signal. The Tivo says UNABLE TO PLAY LIVE TV for JC1. Is City Hall TV now out of this world, or what?!? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3657 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 11:36:05 Subject: back on, but with static Well, I just tried it again and JC1 is back up on cable. But, there's a lot of static on the audio. : Yesterday, it seems that canned shows from NASA were playing all day. : Right now, nothing comes in at all for JC1 TV -- not even a test signal. The Tivo says UNABLE TO PLAY LIVE TV for JC1. : Is City Hall TV now out of this world, or what?!? ***************** End Of Article ****************** MAGGIE DOYLE posted Message 3658 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 12:17:33 Subject: nipper What's the story with Maggie Doyle? Wasn't she in Munley's shop at 30 Montgomery? I hear that Mark is on the road again. Earl Morgan said that the Doyle cat always lands on her feet. Is that still true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** nipper posted Message 3659 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 12:27:31 Subject: MAGGIE DOYLE What's the story with Maggie Doyle? Wasn't she in Munley's shop at 30 Montgomery? I hear that Mark is on the road again. Earl Morgan said that the Doyle cat always lands on her feet. Is that still true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Snicker posted Message 3660 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 12:56:49 Subject: Re: MAGGIE DOYLE More like the Doyle cat always lands on her back....lol. : What's the story with Maggie Doyle? Wasn't she in Munley's shop at 30 Montgomery? I hear that Mark is on the road again. : Earl Morgan said that the Doyle cat always lands on her feet. Is that still true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO She is a bit of a freak posted Message 3661 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 13:21:36 Subject: Re: MAGGIE DOYLE : More like the Doyle cat always lands on her back....lol. : : : What's the story with Maggie Doyle? Wasn't she in Munley's shop at 30 Montgomery? I hear that Mark is on the road again. : : Earl Morgan said that the Doyle cat always lands on her feet. Is that still true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3662 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 14:30:10 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** she's a super freak posted Message 3663 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 15:25:54 Subject: Re: back on, but with static : Well, I just tried it again and JC1 is back up on cable. But, there's a lot of static on the audio. : : Yesterday, it seems that canned shows from NASA were playing all day. : : Right now, nothing comes in at all for JC1 TV -- not even a test signal. The Tivo says UNABLE TO PLAY LIVE TV for JC1. : : Is City Hall TV now out of this world, or what?!? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3664 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 15:30:21 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3665 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 16:11:08 Subject: To whoever was taking pictures of my van yesterday I understand that someone was taking pictures of my van yesterday. Just in case like the light was bad or something, here ya' go! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cheap Trick posted Message 3666 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 20:48:45 Subject: The Dream Police The dream police, they live inside of my head. The dream police, they come to me in my bed. The dream police, they're coming to arrest me, oh no. 'Cause they're waiting for me. They're looking for me. Every single night. They're driving me insane. Those men inside my brain. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DP posted Message 3667 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 21:29:20 Subject: Re: The Dream Police Anthony....A legend in his own mind! ***************** End Of Article ****************** *** posted Message 3668 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 22:07:08 Subject: Munley? His last day was Thursday. ***************** End Of Article ****************** vet01 posted Message 3669 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 22:34:20 Subject: Memorial for Iraqi war vets Does anyone know of any proposals for a possible memorial for the current "war" or of Desert Shield/Storm? ***************** End Of Article ****************** ( o) posted Message 3670 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 05, 2004 at 22:40:23 Subject: Re: Munley? Yippie! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3671 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 04:16:12 Subject: Fires in Your Cities "In my mind, I see fires in your cities." Charles Manson Might this have been a prediction of the LA riots? ***************** End Of Article ****************** shortee posted Message 3672 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 08:17:18 Subject: Re: Cruz stays on? : Smith is letting Deputy Mayor Anthony Cruz stay? : : POLITICSNJ.COM - - - Two top aides to the late Jersey City Mayor Glenn Cunningham were fired today by the interim Mayor, L. Harvey Smith: Deputy Mayor Eugene Drayon and Chief of Staff William Ayala. : : Cunningham's press secretary, Stan Eason, will remain on the city payroll, but in a different position. : : Sources say that Smith dispatched a law enforcement officer to Ayala's home to deliver his termination notice. (06/04/04) Cruz stays on because he played both sides for two years: He brought information back and forth: ***************** End Of Article ****************** shorree posted Message 3673 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 08:20:11 Subject: Re: back on, but with static : Well, I just tried it again and JC1 is back up on cable. But, there's a lot of static on the audio. : : Yesterday, it seems that canned shows from NASA were playing all day. : : Right now, nothing comes in at all for JC1 TV -- not even a test signal. The Tivo says UNABLE TO PLAY LIVE TV for JC1. : : Is City Hall TV now out of this world, or what?!? Let's see if Harvey could find someone as good as Stan, I don't think so: Stan is in demand, play it Stan: ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3674 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 08:24:28 Subject: Online Video: Governor McGreevey Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** shortee posted Message 3675 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 08:24:46 Subject: Re: Hopefully none of them !! : Off with all of their heads !!! Let Harvey have his fun, it's only for a short time, and besides he have resentments and nothing but hate: Harvey you better pray to God for a peachful heart because you are heartless: You were jealous of Bob Hurley for a long time, it goes as far back as the basketball coach job: we remember ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3676 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 09:29:31 Subject: Online Video: Senate President Codey Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** YGA posted Message 3677 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 09:43:53 Subject: Re: back on, but with static He did find someone as good as Stan....Stan himself! ***************** End Of Article ****************** 666 posted Message 3678 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 09:58:50 Subject: Re: Cruz stays on? Cruz is history He's just a meaningless putz, not worthy of the media putting his name in print. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3679 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 10:25:01 Subject: Online Video: U.S. Attorney Chris Christie Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** beautiful posted Message 3680 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 11:56:41 Subject: Re: Online Video: U.S. Attorney Chris Christie Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham : To view the Online video, please click on the Link. Do you all get it / Glenns passing won't be in vain, so to speak I'll get them Glenn you just rest: ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat omelia posted Message 3681 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 12:37:06 Subject: Re: To whoever was taking pictures of my van yesterday : I understand that someone was taking pictures of my van yesterday. : Just in case like the light was bad or something, here ya' go! How can someone not want to take photo's of a fine looking van like that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3682 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 12:42:12 Subject: Re: To whoever was taking pictures of my van yesterday Yeah! When the neighbors told me about the shutterbug, I thought that maybe someone was just trying to prove that they really saw it! : : I understand that someone was taking pictures of my van yesterday. : : Just in case like the light was bad or something, here ya' go! : How can someone not want to take photo's of a fine looking van like that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3683 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 14:55:06 Subject: Online Video: Jersey City Schools Superintendent Dr. Epps Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3684 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 15:03:41 Subject: Online Video: Deputy Mayor Eugene Drayton Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ty posted Message 3685 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 16:16:49 Subject: Re: Online Video: U.S. Attorney Chris Christie Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham : : To view the Online video, please click on the Link. : : Do you all get it / Glenns passing won't be : in vain, so to speak I'll get them Glenn you just rest: Did glen participate in annual physicials, he had the best medical benefits one could have. Obviously had he gone for a stress test the blockage would have been discovered. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ty posted Message 3686 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 16:23:50 Subject: Re: HA !!! Black on Black Crime is rampant. They recruit black children to introduce them to the drug culture where they serves as curriers and lookouts. gang activity is ruining the black culture and the lives of many blacks, the murder rate is highest amongst the blacks killing each other. Many father bastard children and the cycle continues with a fatherless unmarried home. Father's day is just mass confusion. The evil and demonic democrat welfare state caused the breakup of the black family where benefits were denied to families which had a father. The democrats want to preserve their base so they keep the blacks poor, just giving them enough to get along and never help them get out of the inner city and free from the cycle of poverty, low test scored, illigitimate children, drug abuse, etc. : Why is it that every time a black man is questioned about his honesty, or abilities...all we hear in return is "chains and salvery and keepin the black man down". Sorry, but its drugs and fatherless homes and the black man not taking responsibility for his own children, and the condition of his community, and his own addictions, and his lack of education .... that is what's holding the black man down. : The white man is not gettin your women pregnant and then running away. The white man is not making you drop out of school and hang out on corners. The white man is not telling you to lite up the crack pipe. The white man is not your devil. : Black on Black crime is adding more to our crime rate in this city than any other sector. Your devil is within. If you want to break the chains of poverty try starting with some personal responsibility. : : Chains huh shortee ? I didn't know you were into that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Judgement Day posted Message 3687 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 17:20:05 Subject: God Bless The U.S. Attorney : To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sour Grapes eh? posted Message 3688 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 17:34:24 Subject: Re: Cruz stays on? Obviously you are intimidated by him and the number of people who support him. He's a hard worker and a community guy. : Cruz is history : He's just a meaningless putz, not worthy of the media putting his name in print. ***************** End Of Article ****************** silvergurl2 posted Message 3689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 17:42:37 Subject: Re: Online Video: U.S. Attorney Chris Christie Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham : : : To view the Online video, please click on the Link. : : : : Do you all get it / Glenns passing won't be : : in vain, so to speak I'll get them Glenn you just rest: : Did glen participate in annual physicials, he had the best medical benefits one could have. Obviously had he gone for a stress test the blockage would have been discovered. UNLESS GLENN HAD GONE FOR AN ANGIOSCOPE, WHICH MOST PEOPLE DON'T DO, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY TRUE THAT THE BLOCKAGE WOULD HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED. HIS PHYSICAL STAMINA WAS EVIDENT BY HIS BICYCLE RIDING... HE HAD NO TROUBLE AND SEEMED THE PICTURE OF HEALTH THAT DAY....HE MAY HAVE VERY WELL PASSED THE STRESS TEST BUT STILL HAVE HAD THE SAME RESULT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3690 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 18:28:31 Subject: Enough Already !!!! It's bad enough that Comcast is running the funeral on Channel 1 non-stop. Can you imagine Gene Drayton running on a continuous loop ? Just shoot me !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3691 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 18:36:43 Subject: Fools Gold. I know you Cunningham Koolaid drinkers keep hoping that Christie will lock up all of Glenn's enemies so Lady One and her pack of weasels (Cardwell,Drayton,Jackson,etal) can resume looting the City. Unfortunately, you are deluded. Christie is a right wing Republican who could care less about minorities. When it comes time for him to run for Governor, he'll be looking for money and votes in the Burbs, not Hudson County. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wait and See posted Message 3692 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 20:41:42 Subject: Re: Check the numbers Sympathy polls will quickly fade when people remember the fools she is surrounded with. Toss Ayala and the rest and perhaps Sandy has a shot. Stick with them and go down with the ship. An old hand will be back to win the day with a unified opposition. : When a politician dies suddenly, the wife inherits all of their positive numbers and none of the negatives. : Voter turnout will be higher, too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** heaven helps them posted Message 3693 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 06, 2004 at 23:38:26 Subject: drayton left everyone behind Now mayor harvey smith is axing the Cunningham administration. I pray for them, it must be hard when their leader is dead and witnessing their friends resigning, firing, tranfered to other departments and waiting for their turn. where is Eugene Drayton left town and left the cunningham camp out to dry. harvey November elections is coming soon, we remember what you did to these people, we will vote you out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3694 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 07:30:51 Subject: Online Video: Chief of Staff WIlliam Ayala Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3695 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 07:33:12 Subject: Online Video: Councilman Steve Lipski Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3696 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 07:36:04 Subject: Online Video: Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3697 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 07:41:05 Subject: Online Video: NAACP Leader Kabili Tayari Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nipper posted Message 3698 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 09:26:28 Subject: Parking Authority Anybody know the story at the Parking Authority? I hear that the King has lost his thrown? Is the much fought over billboard still on State Hwy? If King is out who will take his place? Pat O'Melia? Carmine Venezia? What about Schundler layer Lonnie Sobel, John Folk, and Joseph Damiano? Are they going to keep their tushes installed at Central Avenue? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nipper posted Message 3699 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 09:28:52 Subject: Joan Eccleston? Has the grim reaper made it to the basement yet at City Hall? What about Jaime Vazquez and Joe Gallagher? Have they made peace with the 2nd floor Reich? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nipper posted Message 3700 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 09:33:15 Subject: Who's in charge? Is Mayor Smitty trying to rule the roost? I guess that he's no longer letting Gaughan play the drums and set the beat. What's with Smitty and Degise now? Is Smitty partners directly with Menendez? Or is Harvey gonna give them all the heave ho and set sail with McGreevey? ***************** End Of Article ****************** No Answers Nipper posted Message 3701 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 10:41:56 Subject: Re: Who's in charge? For someone who seems to know the players....you sure have a lot of questions and no answers. OFF WITH ALL OF THEIR HEADS!!! Intrim or not....Harvey should can the whole bunch of them. Start with the Schundler hold-overs and work his way on from there. Think of the Millions we could save by cutting all of the dead wood still drifting around from past administrations. Sure...there are those worthwhile keeping, but most of em are just a bunch of hacks. : Is Mayor Smitty trying to rule the roost? I guess that he's no longer letting Gaughan play the drums and set the beat. : What's with Smitty and Degise now? Is Smitty partners directly with Menendez? Or is Harvey gonna give them all the heave ho and set sail with McGreevey? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gabby posted Message 3702 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 13:52:53 Subject: Timothy Sheridan Maybe Lonnie Sobel will at long last keep his promise to Schundler and shoe horn Timothy Sheridan in as director, : Anybody know the story at the Parking Authority? I hear that the King has lost his thrown? Is the much fought over billboard still on State Hwy? : If King is out who will take his place? Pat O'Melia? Carmine Venezia? : What about Schundler layer Lonnie Sobel, John Folk, and Joseph Damiano? Are they going to keep their tushes installed at Central Avenue? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gabby posted Message 3703 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 13:56:00 Subject: Re: Who's in charge? And you? Are you a concerned citizen, community leader, or a highly qualified professional? : For someone who seems to know the players....you sure have a lot of questions and no answers. : OFF WITH ALL OF THEIR HEADS!!! Intrim or not....Harvey should can the whole bunch of them. Start with the Schundler hold-overs and work his way on from there. Think of the Millions we could save by cutting all of the dead wood still drifting around from past administrations. Sure...there are those worthwhile keeping, but most of em are just a bunch of hacks. : : : Is Mayor Smitty trying to rule the roost? I guess that he's no longer letting Gaughan play the drums and set the beat. : : What's with Smitty and Degise now? Is Smitty partners directly with Menendez? Or is Harvey gonna give them all the heave ho and set sail with McGreevey? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The odd couple posted Message 3704 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 16:12:21 Subject: It could be Carmine Venezia and Tom Corcoran all over again If Carmine Venezia and Tom Corcoran get back together at the Parking Authority we can put the show on pay per view. The city should make so much that none of us will ever have to pay taxes again. : Anybody know the story at the Parking Authority? I hear that the King has lost his thrown? Is the much fought over billboard still on State Hwy? : If King is out who will take his place? Pat O'Melia? Carmine Venezia? : What about Schundler layer Lonnie Sobel, John Folk, and Joseph Damiano? Are they going to keep their tushes installed at Central Avenue? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cog in the Wheel (aka No Answers Nipper) posted Message 3705 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 16:21:15 Subject: Re: Who's in charge? Who am I? Just a cog in the wheel. I don't come here to lavish my wisdom on others. I just come here to see what baseless rumors are being generated and spread by those who are so ill informed as to be comical. I find this more entertaining than any NYC Comedy Club when it comes to satire and of course double edged political prognostication. But then again,....who am I?Someone who gets a chuckle from those who think they have all the answers, when its obvious that they don't even know the right questions. I'm nobody you should worry about. Just a cog in the wheel. : And you? Are you a concerned citizen, community leader, or a highly qualified professional? : : : For someone who seems to know the players....you sure have a lot of questions and no answers. : : OFF WITH ALL OF THEIR HEADS!!! Intrim or not....Harvey should can the whole bunch of them. Start with the Schundler hold-overs and work his way on from there. Think of the Millions we could save by cutting all of the dead wood still drifting around from past administrations. Sure...there are those worthwhile keeping, but most of em are just a bunch of hacks. : : : : : Is Mayor Smitty trying to rule the roost? I guess that he's no longer letting Gaughan play the drums and set the beat. : : : What's with Smitty and Degise now? Is Smitty partners directly with Menendez? Or is Harvey gonna give them all the heave ho and set sail with McGreevey? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3706 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 16:34:02 Subject: Victory For Tom DeGise "Only total Victory will give you Total Peace".Know the players and know he or she History. You will have no trouble.Vote for Jed DiMatteo in Ward C for Committeeman tomorrow. A man with a brain who is honest.This is rare in Jersey city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3707 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 16:40:12 Subject: Who's in charge? Nobody It's like the Lord of the Rings. Great power swirls about, but it all pivots on creepycrawlies. Did you know that a "paradigm shift" was in the deck? : Who am I? Just a cog in the wheel. I don't come here to lavish my wisdom on others. I just come here to see what baseless rumors are being generated and spread by those who are so ill informed as to be comical. I find this more entertaining than any NYC Comedy Club when it comes to satire and of course double edged political prognostication. But then again,....who am I?Someone who gets a chuckle from those who think they have all the answers, when its obvious that they don't even know the right questions. I'm nobody you should worry about. Just a cog in the wheel. : : And you? Are you a concerned citizen, community leader, or a highly qualified professional? : : : : : For someone who seems to know the players....you sure have a lot of questions and no answers. : : : OFF WITH ALL OF THEIR HEADS!!! Intrim or not....Harvey should can the whole bunch of them. Start with the Schundler hold-overs and work his way on from there. Think of the Millions we could save by cutting all of the dead wood still drifting around from past administrations. Sure...there are those worthwhile keeping, but most of em are just a bunch of hacks. : : : : : : : Is Mayor Smitty trying to rule the roost? I guess that he's no longer letting Gaughan play the drums and set the beat. : : : : What's with Smitty and Degise now? Is Smitty partners directly with Menendez? Or is Harvey gonna give them all the heave ho and set sail with McGreevey? ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Are Here posted Message 3708 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 17:09:06 Subject: NEW YORK TIMES SAYS CUNNINGHAM'S DEATH BRINGS OUT THE LONG KNIVES ON POLITICS Ronald Smothers New York Times June 6, 2004 All the Niceties Aside, It Is Hudson County JERSEY CITY The public silence among Hudson County politicians just days after the funeral of Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham would suggest that not much was happening. That assumption would be wrong. This is Hudson County, after all, where no one can be expected to stand on either ceremony or sanctimony too long. Even as Representative Robert Menendez, the putative Democratic leader of the county, was maintaining a sort of silence, and State Senator Bernard Kenny, his ally and county party chairman, was expressing public distaste at succession questions so soon after Mr. Cunningham's death, their minions now in control of Jersey City government were said to be shedding the mayor's appointees as a dog sheds fleas. By one account, letters had gone out to the directors of some city agencies requesting that they submit letters of resignation. Others among the 800 city employees and 1,000 workers whose jobs are indirectly tied to City Hall said that they had not received such requests but considered their tenure to be a day-to-day thing. It all led one of Mr. Menendez's former combatants to whisper an utterance worthy of "Macbeth." "Menendez's best friends are death and indictment," he said, ticking off two calamities -the indictment of the former county executive, Robert Janiszewski, and the death of Mr. Cunningham - that have helped Mr. Menendez, the third-ranking Democrat in Congress, to continue to consolidate his power in Hudson County. Mr. Cunningham, the city's first black mayor, was a popular figure who had mixed results as he struggled with Mr. Menendez for control of the county Democratic Party. His personal charisma as well as his partnership with his wife, Sandra Cunningham, a former executive director of the county bar association, had done much to advance his cause. But through it all, Mr. Menendez maintained control of the levers in the county and city governments. With Mr. Cunningham's passing, that is not likely to change. Harvey Smith, the City Council president and an ally of Mr. Menendez, will hold down the job of mayor for at least 30 days. Then the council, also controlled by Menendez allies, must name an acting mayor to serve until a special election in November. As for the state Senate seat that Mr. Cunningham also held, it is the county Democratic committee, of which Mr. Kenny is chairman and which Mr. Menendez controls, that must name someone to fill the vacancy until a special election in November. For now, a party committee meeting is scheduled for Wednesday to ponder the open position. By all accounts, Joseph V. Doria, the mayor of Bayonne and a former 12-term assemblyman, is the choice of Mr Menendez to fill the Senate seat. Mr. Doria would say only tha By all accounts, Joseph V. Doria, the mayor of Bayonne and a former 12-term assemblyman, is the choice of Mr. Menendez to fill the Senate seat. Mr. Doria would say only that he was "considering my options regarding the open Senate seat." He must have been considering it pretty seriously , however, since Mr. Kenny said he had been approached by Mr. Doria about the job even before Mr. Cunningham's funeral. By the same token, Mr. Kenny said, Mrs. Cunningham expressed similar interest when he visited her to convey his condolences. It is what Thomas DeGise, the Hudson County executive and Menendez ally, called "standing up and asking for it" in the rough and tumble of Hudson County politics, where he said "no one was anointed." Not surprisingly, the comment angered Kabili Tayari, president of the local chapter of the N.A.A.C.P., who delivered one of the more stridently political eulogies at Mr. Cunningham's funeral. The party leaders should be coming to Mrs. Cunningham, Mr. Tayari said, begging her to run as a way of honoring the memory of her husband. "They only make those comments when it is about us," he said angrily, making it clear that the "us" to whom he referred were black politicians. Such "anointing," he said, happens all the time in politics, adding, "If Sandy takes a stand, the people will be with her." The unsubtle ugliness of racial politics was nothing new here. Rick Thigpen, a lobbyist and former executive director of the state Democratic Party who was a consultant in redistricting efforts, had high praise for Mr. Doria and said he would make an excellent senator. But Mr. Thigpen pointed out that Mr. Cunningham's district - more than 50 percent black and Hispanic - had been deliberately drawn by the party to "address the ongoing problem of bringing black legislative seats in line with the large black role in the Democratic Party." To name Mr. Doria to fill Mr. Cunningham's Senate seat, he said, would result in a district represented in Trenton by people named "Doria, Manzo and Chiappone." "This is very delicate stuff, and it is not about right and wrong," Mr. Thigpen said. "Menendez is capable of handling this sort of thing with sophistication and without forcing something that will put racial solidarity at odds with Democratic political power." But even as some of Mrs. Cunningham's supporters had visions of carrying her triumphantly to the posts vacated by her husband, they knew that the spirit of Frank Hague, the Democratic boss who ruled Hudson County with an iron hand for 30 years, still lurked in their midst, and that their dreams could be buried in the basement of City Hall here along with some of those storied ballots that never got counted. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tempest in a fleapot posted Message 3709 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 18:24:37 Subject: Re: Parking Authority I didn't know that Lonnie was still master of ceremonies at the Parking Authority. I thought that he had left the country to do research on an upcoming book on sex tourism. : If King is out who will take his place? Pat O'Melia? Carmine Venezia? : What about Schundler layer Lonnie Sobel, John Folk, and Joseph Damiano? Are they going to keep their tushes installed at Central Avenue? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rose Garter posted Message 3710 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 18:28:20 Subject: Re: Joan Eccleston? Greg Brickey can always go back to writing for the Urban Times News. : Has the grim reaper made it to the basement yet at City Hall? What about Jaime Vazquez and Joe Gallagher? Have they made peace with the 2nd floor Reich? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Monique Williams posted Message 3711 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 20:06:20 Subject: Re: NEW YORK TIMES SAYS CUNNINGHAM'S DEATH BRINGS OUT THE LONG KNIVES Glenn Cunningham's election is the best thing to happen to this city. Unlike other mayors, his interests reflected those of the Jersey City residents. I will vote for Mrs. Cunninham if she decides to run no matter what. I will vote for whoever our great Mayor believed in! As a student and the president of my honor society, I will make sure at least part of the student population follows. Mrs. Cunningham, I am behind you all the way! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stephen Gebhardt -- Cunningham Reform Democrat Ward D Committee Candidate posted Message 3712 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 21:05:13 Subject: Jersey City residence of Carmine Venizia is up for sale Dear Editor My name is Stephen Gebhardt I'm running for committee in Ward D district 21. It has come to my attention that Carmine Venizia is running against me. It has been advertised in the Jersey City Reporter on many occasions including May 16,2004 that his Jersey City residence is up for sale with Liberty Realty, LLC.(89 Sherman Place) He has a new set of twins it seems would be better raised else where. I will remain in Jersey City with my family and fight for a better community. Please vote for the person who will be a full time resident and not just someone who chooses to move their family out of the Heights District he is running in. How could you possibly run for a committee seat when your home is on the market? Vote the B line for the better person who will Be here. Feel free to see his home at www.Librealty.com or call 201-332-3999 and ask for listing 89 Sherman Place. Stephen Gebhardt Cunningham Reform Democrat Ward D Committee Candidate ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fact Of Life posted Message 3713 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 21:19:45 Subject: Carmine Venizia Political Whoor : Dear Editor : My name is Stephen Gebhardt I'm running for committee in Ward D district 21. It has come to my attention that Carmine Venizia is running against me. It has been advertised in the Jersey City Reporter on many occasions including May 16,2004 that his Jersey City residence is up for sale with Liberty Realty, LLC.(89 Sherman Place) He has a new set of twins it seems would be better raised else where. : I will remain in Jersey City with my family and fight for a better community. Please vote for the person who will be a full time resident and not just someone who chooses to move their family out of the Heights District he is running in. : How could you possibly run for a committee seat when your home is on the market? Vote the B line for the better person who will Be here. Feel free to see his home at www.Librealty.com or call 201-332-3999 and ask for listing 89 Sherman Place. : Stephen Gebhardt : Cunningham Reform Democrat Ward D Committee Candidate ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chaos Reigns posted Message 3714 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 07, 2004 at 21:21:11 Subject: NO ONE IN CHARGE : It's like the Lord of the Rings. Great power swirls about, but it all pivots on creepycrawlies. : Did you know that a "paradigm shift" was in the deck? : : : Who am I? Just a cog in the wheel. I don't come here to lavish my wisdom on others. I just come here to see what baseless rumors are being generated and spread by those who are so ill informed as to be comical. I find this more entertaining than any NYC Comedy Club when it comes to satire and of course double edged political prognostication. But then again,....who am I?Someone who gets a chuckle from those who think they have all the answers, when its obvious that they don't even know the right questions. I'm nobody you should worry about. Just a cog in the wheel. : : : And you? Are you a concerned citizen, community leader, or a highly qualified professional? : : : : : : : For someone who seems to know the players....you sure have a lot of questions and no answers. : : : : OFF WITH ALL OF THEIR HEADS!!! Intrim or not....Harvey should can the whole bunch of them. Start with the Schundler hold-overs and work his way on from there. Think of the Millions we could save by cutting all of the dead wood still drifting around from past administrations. Sure...there are those worthwhile keeping, but most of em are just a bunch of hacks. : : : : : : : : : Is Mayor Smitty trying to rule the roost? I guess that he's no longer letting Gaughan play the drums and set the beat. : : : : : What's with Smitty and Degise now? Is Smitty partners directly with Menendez? Or is Harvey gonna give them all the heave ho and set sail with McGreevey? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3715 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 07:56:07 Subject: Support to Tom DeGise This Man wants to do the right thing for Hudson County.Support his efforts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Power Hungry _______ posted Message 3716 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 09:59:35 Subject: Re: Support to Tom DeGise He is just a recycled Shundler Kool Aid Drinker. And Tom....get a freakin job. You obviously have too much freakin time on your hands. : This Man wants to do the right thing for Hudson County.Support his efforts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3717 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 10:00:38 Subject: HA !!!! What a waste of flesh !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Shadow posted Message 3718 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 10:02:34 Subject: Is Nancy still ... trying to get a job at the County ? The way Tom is kissing up it sure seems like it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say it Ain't So posted Message 3719 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 10:31:59 Subject: Re: Is Nancy still ... Tom Gaynor is such a hypocrite. I can still hear him moaning and groaning about political patronage and padding payrolls for campaigns. But I guess others getting jobs is patronage. Nancy getting a job is good government....(snicker). No doubt Dumb Dumb DeGise will dole out s 70K job for this numb nut's support. : trying to get a job at the County ? The way Tom is kissing up it sure seems like it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3720 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 11:30:01 Subject: Online Video: Fr. Schiller Reads from the Bible at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3721 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 16:47:54 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show: June 7, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 3722 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 20:02:49 Subject: Can't somone rid me of this meddlesome priest ?! I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how a Catholic priest can be a lawyer, make loads of money, haver a vacation home in the Virgin Islands, etc etc. I guess he must have a VERY special dispensation from Rome ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Live from the Vatican posted Message 3723 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 21:24:13 Subject: Re: Can't somone rid me of this meddlesome priest ?! : I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how a Catholic priest can be a lawyer, make loads of money, haver a vacation home in the Virgin Islands, etc etc. : I guess he must have a VERY special dispensation from Rome ! Friends in very high places? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3724 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 21:26:38 Subject: Live Election Coverage at NJN until 11PM NJN (Channel 50 on Comcast) has live New Jersey election coverage until 11PM. To view the Live Webcast at the NJN Web Site, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wheel of Fortune posted Message 3725 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 21:26:43 Subject: Mayor Bill Odea Jersey Journal says it's Bill Odea for Mayor........ How did the wise prophets on this Board miss this one? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Ghost of Peter Weiss posted Message 3726 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 22:37:01 Subject: False Alarm : Jersey Journal says it's Bill Odea for Mayor........ : How did the wise prophets on this Board miss this one? The same genius who wrote the article said in Saturday's JJ that Manzo was the HCDO choice for Mayor and Sandy would be State Senator in a peace deal. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3727 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 23:00:58 Subject: The Cunningham Legacy Those Cunningham voters sure were energized by that stirring funeral service. They turned out in droves to give little Stevie Fulop his 20%. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3728 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 08, 2004 at 23:04:49 Subject: Correction. Only 13.53% at 11:02 pm. Way to go Stevie !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3729 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 07:21:56 Subject: Paper Tiger Now we shall see who the real stand_up peopole are in Jersey city. Nice going Tom DeGise & TEAM."Only Total Victory,will give you total peace". ***************** End Of Article ****************** HELP!!! posted Message 3730 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 09:05:08 Subject: Re: Paper Tiger Will someone please open a can of whoop-ass on this guy? : Now we shall see who the real stand_up peopole are in Jersey city. Nice going Tom DeGise & TEAM."Only Total Victory,will give you total peace". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3731 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 09:20:58 Subject: Re: Paper Tiger : Now we shall see who the real s*ck_up peopole are in Jersey city. Nice going Tom DeGise & TEAM."Only Total Victory,will give you total peace". ***************** End Of Article ****************** STEVEN FULOP FOR CONGRESS posted Message 3732 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 11:05:26 Subject: Former Democratic Candidate for New Jersey’s 13th Congressional District Thanks the People of New Jersey for Tremendous Opportunity FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 9 , 2004 Former Democratic Candidate for New Jersey’s 13th Congressional District Thanks the People of New Jersey for Tremendous Opportunity Open Letter From Steven Fulop to the People of the 13th Congressional District Jersey City, New Jersey — The following is an open letter from Steven Fulop, former Democratic Challenger for New Jersey’s 13th Congressional District to the people of the District: First and foremost, I would like to take this opportunity to formally congratulate Robert Menendez and the entire HCDO on their primary win. Regardless, of ideological differences I am thankful to have had the opportunity to increase the dialogue regarding the future of the 13th congressional district. From a personal standpoint, I am proud, and I feel my friend Glenn Cunningham had he been alive today would echo the same sentiment towards what we have accomplished. Just think, in a mere 7 weeks of campaigning with a budget of around twenty thousand dollars versus the hundreds of thousands of dollars that were spent against us we garnered a larger percentage of the vote than anyone could have predicted. We stuck to issues, we stayed positive, and the mere fact of an alternative choice on the ballot forced our incumbents to improve their dialogue on the issues as well. This is certainly something that benefits all of us whether you are a Fulop supporter or a Menendez supporter. I would also like to thank the people of the 13th congressional district who supported me through this process. They put their faith in a political newcomer who didn't have a policy track record but rather a track record of merely doing the "right" thing whether for our country or for our neighborhoods. Going forward I am hopeful and eager to work towards a united democratic party in Hudson county with an unwavering perspective that the people of Hudson County are ALWAYS first. I know that together we can make more progress towards a better and brighter tomorrow for the entire district. Once again congratulations to Robert Menendez and the entire HCDO. And finally, Glenn, thank you for the opportunity and you will always be in my heart. Steven M. Fulop ***************** End Of Article ****************** beautiful posted Message 3733 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 12:25:47 Subject: Re: Former Democratic Candidate for New Jersey’s 13th Congressional District Thanks the People of New Jersey for Tremendous Opportunity : FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE : June 9 , 2004 : Former Democratic Candidate for New Jersey’s 13th Congressional District Thanks the People of New Jersey for Tremendous Opportunity : Open Letter From Steven Fulop to the People of the 13th Congressional District : Jersey City, New Jersey — The following is an open letter from Steven Fulop, former Democratic Challenger for New Jersey’s 13th Congressional District to the people of the District: : First and foremost, I would like to take this opportunity to formally congratulate Robert Menendez and the entire HCDO on their primary win. Regardless, of ideological differences I am thankful to have had the opportunity to increase the dialogue regarding the future of the 13th congressional district. : From a personal standpoint, I am proud, and I feel my friend Glenn Cunningham had he been alive today would echo the same sentiment towards what we have accomplished. Just think, in a mere 7 weeks of campaigning with a budget of around twenty thousand dollars versus the hundreds of thousands of dollars that were spent against us we garnered a larger percentage of the vote than anyone could have predicted. We stuck to issues, we stayed positive, and the mere fact of an alternative choice on the ballot forced our incumbents to improve their dialogue on the issues as well. This is certainly something that benefits all of us whether you are a Fulop supporter or a Menendez supporter. : I would also like to thank the people of the 13th congressional district who supported me through this process. They put their faith in a political newcomer who didn't have a policy track record but rather a track record of merely doing the "right" thing whether for our country or for our neighborhoods. Going forward I am hopeful and eager to work towards a united democratic party in Hudson county with an unwavering perspective that the people of Hudson County are ALWAYS first. I know that together we can make more progress towards a better and brighter tomorrow for the entire district. : Once again congratulations to Robert Menendez and the entire HCDO. And finally, Glenn, thank you for the opportunity and you will always be in my heart. : Steven M. Fulop We love you and God Bless You ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3734 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 18:03:05 Subject: It Was Like One of Napoleon's Battles! Up here in the not so chilly (of late) northern fringe of Jersey City, residents witnessed a bit of excitement yesterday. Margi Daly, Peter Baron and et al. of the Ward D Cunningham club worked tirelessly to field and motivate their troops. Opposing the Ward D club's efforts was new Smith stalwart, Maureen Corcoran -- formerly of the Ward D Cunningham Club. To the volunteers and committee candidates, Maureen communicated her belief that the cause was lost. Maureen Corcoran rode about in a Row A van. She waved to one and all, old friend and new friend alike, including the uncommited and event those Central Avenue regulars who really ought to be committed. The Ward D club had a small army distributing Row B literature. Unfortunately, the infantry didn't seem to realize that the cards were designed to fit over doorknobs. The volunteers put them almost everyplace but on doorknobs. I saw the Row B tags on car antennas, baseball bats, and even a squirrel sporting one as a collar and bib. I've yet to hear the results! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Did They Get A Quorum ? posted Message 3735 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 20:07:36 Subject: Whats Happening At Dem Meeting Anybody hear anything ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hotel Tremblant posted Message 3736 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 20:07:49 Subject: Mont-Tremblant Golf, tennis, mountain climbing, fishing excursions, cruises on the Lac Tremblant, hiking, in-line skating, horseback riding and sailing… You need specialised equipment? Several shops in town provide rental services. ***************** End Of Article ****************** what happen to Arango? posted Message 3737 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 20:26:22 Subject: Is arango still working in JC Arango still working in JC? Did he already megotiated with Menendez? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Both Cutting Deals posted Message 3738 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 20:30:17 Subject: Joan or Jose ? : Arango still working in JC? Did he already megotiated with Menendez? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3739 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 20:41:39 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3740 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 21:14:15 Subject: It Was Like One of Napoleon's Battles! Up here in the not so chilly (of late) north and west of City Hall, Heights residents witnessed a bit of excitement yesterday. Margi Daly, Peter Baron and et al. of the Ward D Cunningham club worked tirelessly to field and motivate their troops. Opposing the Ward D club's efforts was new Smith stalwart supporter, Maureen Corcoran -- formerly of the Ward D Cunningham Club. To the volunteers and committee candidates, Maureen communicated her belief that the cause was lost. Maureen Corcoran rode about in a Row A van. She waved to one and all, old friend and new friend alike, including the uncommited and even those Central Avenue regulars who really ought to be committed. The Ward D club had a small army distributing Row B literature. Unfortunately, the infantry didn't seem to realize that the cards were designed to fit over doorknobs. The volunteers put them almost everyplace but on doorknobs. I saw the Row B tags on car antennas, baseball bats, and even a squirrel sporting one as a collar and bib. I've yet to hear the results! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lord of the Rings posted Message 3741 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 21:15:32 Subject: Why So Quiet Here The Jersey City Message Board at NJ.com is much more active..... ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3742 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 21:17:55 Subject: It Was Like One of Napoleon's Battles! Up here in the not so chilly (of late) north and west of City Hall, Heights residents witnessed a bit of excitement yesterday. Margi Daly, Peter Baron and et al. of the Ward D Cunningham club worked tirelessly to field and motivate their troops. Opposing the Ward D club's efforts was newly minted Smith stalwart supporter, Maureen Corcoran -- formerly of the Ward D Cunningham Club. To the volunteers and committee candidates, Maureen communicated her belief that the cause was lost. Maureen Corcoran rode about in a Row A van. She waved to one and all, old friend and new friend alike, including the uncommited and even those Central Avenue regulars who really ought to be committed. The Ward D club had a small army distributing Row B literature. Unfortunately, the infantry didn't seem to realize that the cards were designed to fit over doorknobs. The volunteers put them almost everyplace but on doorknobs. I saw the Row B tags on car antennas, baseball bats, and even a squirrel sporting one as a collar and bib. I've yet to hear the results! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3743 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 21:22:28 Subject: It Was Like One of Napoleon's Battles! It Was Like One of Napoleon's Battles! Up here in the not so chilly (of late) north and west of City Hall, Heights residents witnessed a bit of excitement yesterday. Margi Daly, Peter Baron and et al. of the Ward D Cunningham club worked tirelessly to field and motivate their troops. Opposing the Ward D club's efforts was newly minted Smith stalwart supporter, Maureen Corcoran -- formerly of the Ward D Cunningham Club. To the volunteers and committee candidates, Maureen communicated her belief that the cause was lost. Maureen Corcoran rode about in a Row A van. She waved to one and all, old friend and new friend alike, including the uncommited and even those Central Avenue regulars who really ought to be committed. The Ward D club had a small army distributing Row B literature. Unfortunately, the infantry didn't seem to realize that the cards were designed to fit over doorknobs. The volunteers put them almost everyplace but on doorknobs. I saw the Row B tags on car antennas, baseball bats, and even a squirrel sporting one as a collar and bib. I've yet to hear the results! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3744 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 21:25:28 Subject: It Was Like One of Napoleon's Battles! Up here in the not so chilly (of late) north and west of City Hall, Heights residents witnessed a bit of excitement yesterday. Margi Daly, Peter Baron and et al. of the Ward D Cunningham club worked tirelessly to field and motivate their troops. Opposing the Ward D club's efforts was newly minted Smith stalwart supporter, Maureen Corcoran -- formerly of the Ward D Cunningham Club. To the volunteers and committee candidates, Maureen communicated her belief that the cause was lost. Maureen Corcoran rode about in a Row A van. She waved to one and all, old friend and new friend alike, including the uncommited and even those Central Avenue regulars who really ought to be committed. The Ward D club had a small army distributing Row B literature. Unfortunately, the infantry didn't seem to realize that the cards were designed to fit over doorknobs. The volunteers put them almost everyplace but on doorknobs. I saw the Row B tags on car antennas, baseball bats, and even a squirrel sporting one as a collar and bib. I've yet to hear the results! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Until November posted Message 3745 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 21:49:16 Subject: Doria Is Senator Fat Joe goes to the Senate until November. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jose Can You See posted Message 3746 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 21:57:27 Subject: Sleaze factor. Arango is looking for a job forging signatures for Carmen Mendiola. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Great News posted Message 3747 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 22:01:26 Subject: Re: Doria Is Senator : Fat Joe goes to the Senate until November. Congratulations Joe. This is the beginning of a good news for all the People in the district. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Should Have tied her to the Bumper posted Message 3748 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 22:14:15 Subject: Rode In Row A Van ? : Up here in the not so chilly (of late) north and west of City Hall, Heights residents witnessed a bit of excitement yesterday. : Margi Daly, Peter Baron and et al. of the Ward D Cunningham club worked tirelessly to field and motivate their troops. : Opposing the Ward D club's efforts was newly minted Smith stalwart supporter, Maureen Corcoran -- formerly of the Ward D Cunningham Club. To the volunteers and committee candidates, Maureen communicated her belief that the cause was lost. : Maureen Corcoran rode about in a Row A van. She waved to one and all, old friend and new friend alike, including the uncommited and even those Central Avenue regulars who really ought to be committed. : The Ward D club had a small army distributing Row B literature. Unfortunately, the infantry didn't seem to realize that the cards were designed to fit over doorknobs. The volunteers put them almost everyplace but on doorknobs. I saw the Row B tags on car antennas, baseball bats, and even a squirrel sporting one as a collar and bib. : I've yet to hear the results! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3749 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 22:15:02 Subject: JOSE ARANGO Arango is the reason of Republicans changing to democrats! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Real Deal posted Message 3750 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 09, 2004 at 23:52:29 Subject: Joe Doria Today and Tomorrow SEARCH Pick NewspaperStar-LedgerTimes, TrentonJersey JournalGloucester TimesExpress-TimesBridgeton NewsToday's SunbeamHunterdon DemocratReporter, Somerset FIND A BUSINESS NewsFlash Home | More Jersey + Metro News Jersey + Metro News Democrats pick Doria to fill Senate seat held by Cunningham The Associated Press 6/9/2004, 9:38 p.m. ET BAYONNE, N.J. (AP) -- Former Assembly Speaker Joseph V. Doria was named Wednesday night to fill the state Senate seat that opened with the death of Glenn D. Cunningham, who led a successful effort to oust Doria last year. From our Advertisers » Search our Inventory » Overstock Specials » Quick Quote Doria, who is mayor of Bayonne, was unanimously chosen by members of the Hudson County Democratic Committee from the 31st Legislative District. Doria, who was uncontested for the seat, was also chosen to run for Cunningham's unexpired term in November. The committee is dominated by the Hudson County Democratic Organization, the county's traditionally dominant political apparatus. Doria, 57, was seeking his 13th term in the Assembly with the Democratic Organization's backing in last year's primary when he and his Senate and Assembly running mates were upset by an independent Democratic slate that included Cunningham for state Senate. Cunningham himself had the Democratic Organization's backing when he was chosen mayor in Jersey City's nonpartisan election in May 2001. Afterward, however, Cunningham broke with the organization amid a political dispute with Rep. Robert Menendez, D-N.J. Cunningham then formed his own faction, the Hudson County Democratic Reform Organization. Although the reform faction swept the 2003 primary, the Hudson County Democratic Organization retained a majority of the county committee seats, enabling it to install Doria in Cunningham's Senate seat. Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. » ***************** End Of Article ****************** White Man's Burden posted Message 3751 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 06:19:46 Subject: Doria, Chiappone, and Manzo? So, a district composed mostly of minorities is now represented by 3 people named Doria, Chiappone, and Manzo? That's Democratic? Maybe it should be the Hudson County Imperialism Party! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ima Hungry posted Message 3752 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 07:04:21 Subject: Re: Doria, Chiappone, and Manzo? Whassa matta for you? You no lika italian hoagies? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3753 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 09:42:26 Subject: Jedsey DiMatteo won Committman seat In ward C-Jedsey won.You have a good man fighting for you to make Jersey City a better place to live.This was not a wasted vote. ***************** End Of Article ****************** It's about time! posted Message 3754 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 10:04:07 Subject: Re: Jedsey DiMatteo won Committman seat This is the first intelligent thing you have posted. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3755 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 10:32:53 Subject: It's about time. . . A stopped clock displays the correct time twice a day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3756 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 11:49:23 Subject: Bayonne Invades Greenville! Last night, troops loyal to Joe "Leader Without Fear" Doria of Bayonne occupied Greenville. Doria, resplendent in a white silk robe (some state that the garment was sewn from fabric previously used in a military blimp, but that claim could not be verified at press-time) and an ostrich-plumed Napoleon hat reviewed his returning committee people. The Doria troops displayed tokens of victory -- lion skins, zebra pelts, and Urban Times News vending machines. HCDO Reichskommandant Kenny approved of Doria's power grab. "Joe Doria's an outstanding public servant," said Kenny One reporter asked the HCDO Reichsminister of Propaganda if the action was appropriate. The HCDO spokesman maintained that this is a humanitarian effort. "The situation was very confused. Greenville residents lacked direction. They just couldn't govern themselves. Joe Doria will distill order from this chaos. Just look how he's kept the Light Rail running on time." Later, Bayone Leader Without Fear Joe Doria reflected on the death of Glenn Cunningham. "God works in strange ways." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let Freedom Ring posted Message 3757 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 12:56:19 Subject: Welcome to the New Home of the Urban Times : Last night, troops loyal to Joe "Leader Without Fear" Doria of Bayonne occupied Greenville. : Doria, resplendent in a white silk robe (some state that the garment was sewn from fabric previously used in a military blimp, but that claim could not be verified at press-time) and an ostrich-plumed Napoleon hat reviewed his returning committee people. The Doria troops displayed tokens of victory -- lion skins, zebra pelts, and Urban Times News vending machines. : HCDO Reichskommandant Kenny approved of Doria's power grab. : "Joe Doria's an outstanding public servant," said Kenny : One reporter asked the HCDO Reichsminister of Propaganda if the action was appropriate. The HCDO spokesman maintained that this is a humanitarian effort. : "The situation was very confused. Greenville residents lacked direction. They just couldn't govern themselves. Joe Doria will distill order from this chaos. Just look how he's kept the Light Rail running on time." : Later, Bayone Leader Without Fear Joe Doria reflected on the death of Glenn Cunningham. : "God works in strange ways." Welcome to the New Home of the Urban Times News, in Exile..... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Otto Von Bismarck posted Message 3758 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 12:58:27 Subject: Deutcheland uber alles Gee Anthony .. I would think if you were going to draw comparisons to Nazzi Germany .. you would stay with your Fuehrer Bret. Afterall, he's more German than anyone in politics around here .. and his right wing ways remind many of National Socialism. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Enrico Caruso posted Message 3759 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 13:02:12 Subject: FORZA ITALIA !!! Let's paint the Distict blue and white. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3760 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 13:04:03 Subject: Damn !!! Somebody cloned me !!! :0 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3761 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 16:27:02 Subject: Three cheers for Joe Doria !!! The 31st District couldn't have a better representative in Trenton. Joe is a consensus builder and knows how to work the system. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He's a BIG boy posted Message 3762 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 16:32:51 Subject: It has to be 3 cheers >Sweetie, you can bury yourself in consensus. Also, can you phrase it a little differently than working the system? Just doesn't sound right. ;^) : The 31st District couldn't have a better representative in Trenton. Joe is a consensus builder and knows how to work the system. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3763 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 16:51:26 Subject: Re: It has to be 3 cheers Honey ... everyone works the system .. some do it honestly, in the interest of their constituents, and others don't. And please, it's not nice to mock someone's size. : >Sweetie, you can bury yourself in consensus. Also, can you phrase it a little differently than working the system? Just doesn't sound right. : ;^) : : The 31st District couldn't have a better representative in Trenton. Joe is a consensus builder and knows how to work the system. ***************** End Of Article ****************** loser posted Message 3764 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 21:34:23 Subject: loser? Did Greg Malave@* get the boot ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** ? posted Message 3765 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 21:35:10 Subject: Greg? : Did Greg Malave@* get the boot ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** :^( posted Message 3766 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 21:49:38 Subject: I'm sorry : Honey ... everyone works the system .. some do it honestly, in the interest of their constituents, and others don't. And please, it's not nice to mock someone's size. : : : >Sweetie, you can bury yourself in consensus. Also, can you phrase it a little differently than working the system? Just doesn't sound right. : : ;^) : : : The 31st District couldn't have a better representative in Trenton. Joe is a consensus builder and knows how to work the system. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hey Anthony tell us where Glazer is?????? posted Message 3767 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 10, 2004 at 22:24:46 Subject: http://www.getnj.com/ yadda yadda yadda ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hello Fatboy! posted Message 3768 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 01:00:38 Subject: Re: Is arango still working in JC : Arango still working in JC? Did he already megotiated with Menendez? I wonder who you might be - the broken English in your post says it all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nah, nah ,nah ,nah ,hey, hey ,hey ,goodbye! posted Message 3769 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 09:07:27 Subject: Re: http://www.getnj.com/ I find it funny when Anthony a.k.a. Ubberhippy teys to be a mini Glazer (no pun intended) You're all alone computer freak. Glazer hit the road for the ol'mighty $$$ ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3770 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 09:22:45 Subject: NJN Video: Joe Doria Selected to Fill Vacant Senate Seat To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3771 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 09:43:33 Subject: You should be very proud. You challenged Glenn Cunningham to an arm wrestling contest and won -- two weeks after he died. You know what Herod said to Pontius Pilate? "Stop worrying! By Fall everybody will've forgotten all about him." ***************** End Of Article ****************** *trys not teys posted Message 3772 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 09:45:20 Subject: Re: http://www.getnj.com/ : I find it funny when Anthony a.k.a. Ubberhippy trys to be a mini Glazer (no pun intended) : You're all alone computer freak. : Glazer hit the road for the ol'mighty $$$ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bright-Day posted Message 3773 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 09:52:03 Subject: Nancy Gaynor to be deputy Mayor in JC Class will out. She was the first one fired by Cunningham and Gang. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You big Joik posted Message 3774 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 10:01:15 Subject: Get a life! : Does L. Harvey know about this? Nice to know that some doddering fool is making decisions for us from his sandcastle in avon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** **TRIES*** now your turn posted Message 3775 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 13:36:50 Subject: Re: http://www.getnj.com/ : : I find it funny when Anthony a.k.a. Ubberhippy trys to be a mini Glazer (no pun intended) : : You're all alone computer freak. : : Glazer hit the road for the ol'mighty $$$ ***************** End Of Article ****************** not fatboy posted Message 3776 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 14:24:07 Subject: fatboy no need asking! Fat boy does not need to ask, he knows! Perhaps newspaper guy or old friend. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3777 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 14:52:57 Subject: This is very trying. This is very trying. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3778 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 15:09:09 Subject: NJN Video: Congressman Menendez's Primary Victory Speech To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** lil' man posted Message 3779 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 15:28:14 Subject: Re: This is very trying. and you're very tiny ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yup posted Message 3780 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 16:34:19 Subject: Glazer is in California Congrats to Glazer. He's in LA as an Investor Relations VP. : Last night, troops loyal to Joe "Leader Without Fear" Doria of Bayonne occupied Greenville. : Doria, resplendent in a white silk robe (some state that the garment was sewn from fabric previously used in a military blimp, but that claim could not be verified at press-time) and an ostrich-plumed Napoleon hat reviewed his returning committee people. The Doria troops displayed tokens of victory -- lion skins, zebra pelts, and Urban Times News vending machines. : HCDO Reichskommandant Kenny approved of Doria's power grab. : "Joe Doria's an outstanding public servant," said Kenny : One reporter asked the HCDO Reichsminister of Propaganda if the action was appropriate. The HCDO spokesman maintained that this is a humanitarian effort. : "The situation was very confused. Greenville residents lacked direction. They just couldn't govern themselves. Joe Doria will distill order from this chaos. Just look how he's kept the Light Rail running on time." : Later, Bayone Leader Without Fear Joe Doria reflected on the death of Glenn Cunningham. : "God works in strange ways." ***************** End Of Article ****************** more info. please posted Message 3781 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 17:22:38 Subject: Re: Glazer is in California need to find him in a hurry ***************** End Of Article ****************** found it posted Message 3782 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 17:28:04 Subject: yup CorpHQ Inc. - ... for additional information. Contact: Steven Glazer, Investor Relations (201) 633-3236 glazer@corphq.com. Any statements contained ... http://www.corphq.com/pr012804.htm CorpHQ Inc. - ... CorpHQ, Inc. Steven Glazer, VP-Investor Relations glazer@corphq.com, Tel. (310) 540-8851 ext. 21. ... Contact: Steven Glazer, Investor Relations. (201) 633-3236. ... http://www.corphq.com/allpressreleases.htm [More results from www.corphq.com] Safeguard Technology International, Inc. - ... and identification. Contact: Mr. Steven Glazer, VP-Investor Relations Tel. (201) 633-3236 sglazer@safeguardtech.net. The statements ... http://www.safeguardtechnology.net/Release.asp?id=21 ***************** End Of Article ****************** yup posted Message 3783 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 19:21:26 Subject: glad I could help. : CorpHQ Inc. - ... for additional information. Contact: Steven Glazer, Investor Relations (201) 633-3236 glazer@corphq.com. Any statements contained ... : http://www.corphq.com/pr012804.htm : CorpHQ Inc. - ... CorpHQ, Inc. Steven Glazer, VP-Investor Relations glazer@corphq.com, Tel. (310) 540-8851 ext. 21. ... Contact: Steven Glazer, Investor Relations. (201) 633-3236. ... : http://www.corphq.com/allpressreleases.htm : [More results from www.corphq.com] : Safeguard Technology International, Inc. - ... and identification. Contact: Mr. Steven Glazer, VP-Investor Relations Tel. (201) 633-3236 sglazer@safeguardtech.net. The statements ... : http://www.safeguardtechnology.net/Release.asp?id=21 ***************** End Of Article ****************** sidd vicious posted Message 3784 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 20:43:55 Subject: Yikes !!! I went to the press release on the Net. Funny how it didn't mention the UTN. Do these people have any clue what they have hired ? Contact: Mr. Steven Glazer Tel. (201) 633-3236 or (310) 540-7229 ext. 19 Email sglazer@safeguardtechnology.net ***************** End Of Article ****************** lol posted Message 3785 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 11, 2004 at 21:37:47 Subject: Re: Yikes !!! : I went to the press release on the Net. Funny how it didn't mention the UTN. Do these people have any clue what they have hired ? : Contact: Mr. Steven Glazer : Tel. (201) 633-3236 or (310) 540-7229 ext. 19 : Email sglazer@safeguardtechnology.net ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3786 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 09:22:33 Subject: Total Victory will give us total peace Avon-By-The Sea- Is warm and beautiful today.Wish you all could come down here today and enjoy the good life.Jedsey DiMatteo all the old time Jersey City People keep asking about you.They are all waiting for the next issue of the Jedsey Journal.I hope it is hot on the press right now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lil Abner posted Message 3787 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 09:55:06 Subject: The Manzo Ego Is it really true that Manzo won't get out of the way to let Odea run for mayor? Is it true the HCDO will back Bill if that happens? Why would Manzo stand in his friend's way? Bill is smarter and more popular. I know the answer of course. Lou is an egomaniac and cares only about himself. And of course there's McCann pulling the strings with Jackson and Cardwell waiting in the wings. You have the feeling that the names of Ron and Danny might just pop up this campaign. But Lou don't care, its all about him. I'd support Odea but never Manzo. P.S. Anthony lighten up a bit. This site is out doing the UTN with smut. And the Hitler stuff was way over the line. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Big Joik posted Message 3788 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 10:46:26 Subject: Re: Tom's be committed will give us total peace : Avon-By-The Sea- Is warm and beautiful today.Wish you all could come down here today and enjoy the good life.Jedsey DiMatteo all the old time Jersey City People keep asking When they will be taking me away.They are all waiting for the men with the butterfly nets to come.I hope they hot on my trail right now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3789 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 11:40:11 Subject: Those that refuse to learn from History. . . :P.S. Anthony lighten up a bit. This site is out doing the UTN with smut. And the Hitler stuff was way over the line. Not Hitler -- Mussolini. The comparison is to Mussolini's invasion of Ethiopia. Over the line? Well, at least one Democrat leader at the State level thinks that the Hudson County Dixiecrats are way out of line. Listening to him gave me the idea for the piece. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3790 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 11:49:57 Subject: NJN Video: Albio Sires on the Election To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Colleen posted Message 3791 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 12:17:39 Subject: Highlights of the News GETNJ IS RUN BY AN A-HOLE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ALBIO is Dumb posted Message 3792 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 12:19:23 Subject: Re: NJN Video: Albio Sires on the Election this is the first time I heard albio speak, he is too dumb to answer any questions. ***************** End Of Article ****************** bye bye harvey posted Message 3793 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 12:25:00 Subject: Re: The Manzo Ego O'dea is the only candidates that will unite the both factors for peace and he will be a great mayor. Manzo don't be selfish ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3794 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 12:33:17 Subject: When Irish eyes are smiling? : GETNJ IS RUN BY AN A-HOLE! And yet with me a distant relative of DeValera! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3795 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 12:36:25 Subject: Re: NJN Video: Albio Sires on the Election : this is the first time I heard albio speak, he is too dumb to answer any questions. My opinion is that Mayor Sires is very clever. I think that he plays slow and affable so that the news doesn't pressure him for not answering any questions ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3796 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 12:58:43 Subject: NJN Video: Congressman Menendez on the Primary To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ask Gerry Free posted Message 3797 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 16:17:16 Subject: O'dea Can't Run : : O'dea is the only candidates that will unite the both factors for peace and he will be a great mayor. Manzo don't be selfish ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weezil Deal posted Message 3798 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 17:24:03 Subject: I couldn't agree more Colleen : GETNJ IS RUN BY AN A-HOLE! Anthony must be inhaling the fumes from that orange paint he uses to color his van. Or else he just enjoys being a butt boy for Bret and Bobby Jackson. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Got that Right posted Message 3799 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 17:56:37 Subject: The HUGE Manzo Ego True about all the Hitler Crap. Anthony...that has to stop. It lowers the dialog here more than the political hatchet jobs I see being done by the various sides. And about Manzo....he was lucky to get into the Assembly, and did it only by riding Cunningham's coattails. He will no doubt be out on his keester in no time. His best shot is to either run for Mayor with Billy's full support or to step aside and let O'Dea take his rightful shot at the top seat. I would prefer to see O'Dea do it with style, as I know he would. Manzo has been a bride's maid over and over. It seems he doesn't have what it takes to be a bride. The only other scenerio I see is Billy supports him for Mayor and gets his support for County Exec against DeGise. That would assure that we never see Schundler around here again. Either way, this should be Billy's call this time around. Manzo....take what you're given and be happy. You have never built anything but a platform for yourself. All I hear from your people is how you never take care of anyone. Billy on the other hand is always doing good things for people. Manzo, if your goal is to rise through the ranks...take a page out of Billy's book and start to give back to those who worked so hard for you over the years. Maybe then you won't have to start from scratch building a support system every time you run for office. : Is it really true that Manzo won't get out of the way to let Odea run for mayor? Is it true the HCDO will back Bill if that happens? Why would Manzo stand in his friend's way? Bill is smarter and more popular. I know the answer of course. Lou is an egomaniac and cares only about himself. And of course there's McCann pulling the strings with Jackson and Cardwell waiting in the wings. You have the feeling that the names of Ron and Danny might just pop up this campaign. But Lou don't care, its all about him. I'd support Odea but never Manzo. P.S. Anthony lighten up a bit. This site is out doing the UTN with smut. And the Hitler stuff was way over the line. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3800 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 21:00:11 Subject: Good post. I agree with almost all you said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3801 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 21:08:08 Subject: O'Dea always was way ahead of his time. Bill O'Dea planned to ban Mister Softie years before Bloomberg ever even thought of it! And wasn't that the same year that Tom Hart wanted to outlaw scantily clad joggers exercising within view of senior citizen housing? Jeepers! That'd be one way to LOSE the senior vote for sure! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Got that right posted Message 3802 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 23:10:29 Subject: Re: Good post. Just tired of garbage dominating the politics of this town. I know Billy is a good man who would bring strength back to JC Dems without alienating the north. There will always be "family" squabbles here. But at the same time Billy would remind us all that HC has always done better when JC is strong and politically united within itself and with the County. Maybe we should nick name him Roter Rooter....afterall who better to flush the current crap out of the political pipes of JC...lol. ;) Chakotay ... since you said you agree with "almost" everything I wrote.... where do you feel I may have been off base in my last post? : I agree with almost all you said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL posted Message 3803 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 12, 2004 at 23:11:58 Subject: Re: O'Dea always was way ahead of his time. You saying we have a bunch of Horney Seniors in JC?? lol : Bill O'Dea planned to ban Mister Softie years before Bloomberg ever even thought of it! : And wasn't that the same year that Tom Hart wanted to outlaw scantily clad joggers exercising within view of senior citizen housing? Jeepers! That'd be one way to LOSE the senior vote for sure! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sean C posted Message 3804 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 11:45:24 Subject: Another Seat Let Go In the early 90's we had the Hudson County Democratic Orginization strip Jersey City of a Congressional Seat. Now we have them stripping our city of a State Senate Seat. And our city council stood by for this. What is next? Giving a North Hudson Politician a seat on the Jersey City Council to strengthen North Hudson's control of Jersey City? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Odea 's Pipe Dreams posted Message 3805 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 12:29:39 Subject: Not Rotor Rooter - It's Unite Gunite Your having Pipe Dreams - It is not going to be Billy Boy - ask Jerry Free. : Just tired of garbage dominating the politics of this town. I know Billy is a good man who would bring strength back to JC Dems without alienating the north. There will always be "family" squabbles here. But at the same time Billy would remind us all that HC has always done better when JC is strong and politically united within itself and with the County. Maybe we should nick name him Roter Rooter....afterall who better to flush the current crap out of the political pipes of JC...lol. ;) : Chakotay ... since you said you agree with "almost" everything I wrote.... where do you feel I may have been off base in my last post? : : I agree with almost all you said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Point and counter point posted Message 3806 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 12:32:15 Subject: Re: Another Seat Let Go Sean, I have to disagree with you on this one. The untimely death of Glenn is sad but, I would rather see Doria get the seat (like his political side or not he was great in Trenton.)than someone who doesn't know their azz from their elbow. AND NO I DON'T MEAN SANDRA ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3807 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 13:48:25 Subject: HCDO Secret Map of Jersey City : In the early 90's we had the Hudson County Democratic Orginization strip Jersey City of a Congressional Seat. Now we have them stripping our city of a State Senate Seat. And our city council stood by for this. What is next? Giving a North Hudson Politician a seat on the Jersey City Council to strengthen North Hudson's control of Jersey City? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kick Arango Out posted Message 3808 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 14:30:31 Subject: Soldier of Fortune The latest gossip around Union City is that Jose Arango (the so called Republican Chairman) made a deal with Brian Stack not to run any candidate in the republican column against Tilo Rivas. Since Glen Cunnigham's death, Arango has been seen around Hudson County selling Republicans right and left. Ohh, and if you want to become a delegate for the GOP convention, for $15,000 you get a spot, give Jose Arango a call, he will tell you where to drop the money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kick Arango Out posted Message 3809 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 14:39:41 Subject: Soldier of Fortune The latest gossip around Union City is that Jose Arango (the so called Republican Chairman) made a deal with Brian Stack not to run any candidate in the republican column against Tilo Rivas. Since Glen Cunnigham's death, Arango has been seen around Hudson County selling Republicans right and left. Ohh, and if you want to become a delegate for the GOP convention, for $15,000 you get a spot, give Jose Arango a call, he will tell you where to drop the money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kick Arango Out posted Message 3810 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 14:48:59 Subject: Soldier of Fortune The latest gossip around Union City is that Jose Arango (the so called Republican Chairman) made a deal with Brian Stack not to run any candidate in the republican column against Tilo Rivas. Since Glen Cunnigham's death, Arango has been seen around Hudson County selling Republicans right and left. Ohh, and if you want to become a delegate for the GOP convention, for $15,000 you get a spot, give Jose Arango a call, he will tell you where to drop the money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soldier of Fortune posted Message 3811 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 15:25:57 Subject: dont deleted! Fair for both sides and you delete the messages? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3812 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 15:39:17 Subject: Re: dont deleted! : Fair for both sides and you delete the messages? You can post that you don't like someone. You can post that you don't think that someone is doing a good job. You can post that you question someone's motives. Up to a point you can post rumors of misconduct. But, when you accuse anyone of a crime, you've crossed the line. If you you believe that someone's committed a crime, contact Chris Christie. You can't post a criminal allegation anonymously. Put the statement in writing with your name and contact information on top. Sign the document and send it to me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** no fairness posted Message 3813 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 15:50:49 Subject: Re: dont deleted! I have seen worse post than that about Kenny and Menendez, you never deleted those. Did Arango promised something to you? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GETNJ posted Message 3814 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 16:04:04 Subject: Re: dont deleted! : I have seen worse post than that about Kenny and Menendez, you never deleted those. Did Arango promised something to you? I'm guessing that you mean the articles that appeared in the Urban Times News. That material was in hardcopy with a publisher's name and address on it. If you want to do the same, print your statement, sign it, and then mail it to me. I use the same ruler for everybody. You can say without reservation that you don't like someone. You can't accuse them of a crime without proof and without identifying yourself. Many messages approach the line. You jumped over it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** may day posted Message 3815 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 16:57:21 Subject: i hope harvey loses in november I'm worried about our great city of jersey city, I liked mayor glenn cunningham, but i didn't like the people around him, but now harvey is worth, i hope he doesn't get elected in november, if HCDO wants peace. NO HARVEY PLEASE ***************** End Of Article ****************** error posted Message 3816 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 17:11:10 Subject: Re: i hope harvey loses in november don't worry about it, no one wants harvey, elect bill O'dea ***************** End Of Article ****************** GOP posted Message 3817 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 17:45:21 Subject: The Hudson GOP Launches a Simple Message Copied from www.Hudsongop.com ----- ------------------------------------------------------------- For over forty years, Hudson County has been the butt of political corruption jokes all over the State of New Jersey and beyond. (The Hudson GOP has being the biggest joke of all) Our elected officials have stolen the public trust (the Hudson GOP chairman works for the democrats), stolen our tax dollars (How many jobs does the GOP chairman holds at the city and county level?)For their criminal defense funding, and done nothing but serve themselves by lining their pockets with our money. (The GOP chairman must maintain his many city jobs by kissing the donkey’s butt). You've heard that all before." says Hudson County Republican Chairman Jose Arango. (With a smile ;) ) "But today, I ask the people of our great county to examine our history. In it, they will find the fact that every single indictment of elected officials in this county has been members of the Hudson County Democratic Organization (HCDO) <--- (Thanks to the help of the Hudson GOP, their candidates are and continue to be the joke of the town as well as its chairman). I then ask the people to ask themselves if they are willing to pay for their missteps. I'm sure their answer will be a resounding NO." (Well, the GOP Chairman does get pay, and a pretty good salary.) In June, a Democratic Freeholder was indicted. She did not resign until she was found guilty in July. Waiting to resign until July allowed her to collect a salary for 6 months more and to receive more pension money from our county, from our tax dollars. (The Hudson GOP chairman collects money from the county too.) Do the people honestly believe that she was serving us during that time? (The GOP chairman makes deals with the donkey for his own benefit, you know like jobs etc.) I believe she was preparing her criminal defense for passing bribes to former Hudson County Executive and criminal, Bob Janisewski. (Wasn’t Janisewski a Republican who changed to democrat?) "The members of the Hudson County GOP want our residents, friends and neighbors to know that they have a choice." (What choice, Menendez tells Arango who can and cant run) says Arango. We are not issuing a dictatorial edict to follow our leadership that is the tradition of the HCDO. (Thanks to the GOP and is low priced leadership Hudson County is ruled by one party system) We are offering an alternative. (Nah!!!) Take a look at our candidates. (Pufff!!!) They have not lived on the government payroll. (Aren’t you on the government payroll?) They are professionals. (Sometimes they don’t speak English) They are taxpayers, homeowners, renters, car owners and parents. (Or live outside Hudson County, remember Mendiola?) They are regular law abiding people who know your issues - high taxes, skyrocketing rents, obscene car insurance rates, the healthcare crisis which may force our doctors to leave practice due to unaffordable malpractice insurance, the cost of good child care, and on and on." (blah blah blah). They will bring these issues to the table, (The GOP chairman makes sure that there is not issues to bring as there is never money to do so.) because they share our issues. They share our values. They are who we Hudson County residents are. And, most of them are professionals outside the public sector. In addition to their law practices, teaching jobs and other careers, they have taken on our cause. To fight the good fight and repair our County's political reputation. (The GOP chairman makes sure that the donkey's candidate always wins). As election time draws near, you may be bombarded with mail pieces from the HCDO claiming victories and the power to win. (The GOP never has money for mailing, that way the chairman keeps the donkey happy.) Each time you receive one, please remember that you have the power of the vote. (There is never a real alternative! and when there is! someone on the GOP mess ups the signatures) And, that you have a choice. We urge the people to get the facts. (From where?) And if they are tired of paying for the corruption in our county, (Same thing happens in the Republican controlled counties) we urge them to make a choice against the HCDO which seems to breed our county's corruption. (With the help of the Hudson County GOP) We are not radical right wing conservative extremists, (We just want jobs) but the HCDO will characterize us as that because they have no issues of their own. (They give us the jobs) They have no plan except to continue to sit back and collect our tax dollars and use it to their personal advantage. (Tax dollars to give jobs to the GOP member and its chairman.) We have a plan and we have real people running like you and me. (Get real!!) Our plan is to fight for YOU, (fight to keep our jobs) not for our criminal defense. You have a choice.( You really don’t have any choice) Choosing the HCDO is choosing to live with an organization that has bred over forty years of corruption.( Thanks to the GOP and all the past chairman’s) Choosing the HCGOP is choosing a change for the better! ( really?) ***************** End Of Article ****************** hilarious posted Message 3818 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 17:57:25 Subject: this is hilarious! cant stop laughing ***************** End Of Article ****************** Got That Right posted Message 3819 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 19:03:34 Subject: Re: i hope harvey loses in november Just make sure Manzo doesn't go for the brass ring again. He is the only reason O'Dea could lose the race. Without Manzo in the field, O'Dea is the obvious choice. He has the smarts, experience and level head needed to pick up the pieces of a fractured JC Dem Organization. Go for it Billy....and PLEASE Announe EARLY to help thin out the field of wannabees. : don't worry about it, no one wants harvey, elect bill O'dea ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joan Eccelson posted Message 3820 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 13, 2004 at 22:49:12 Subject: Who oh WHO do I kiss up to now? i am so confused. now that my master DeputyD is in exile I don't know who to kiss up to. no longer can I scheam and conspire with the evil forces to determine whose life to ruin next. how oh how do I maneuver bending to kiss the new mayor's hide after I called him all those terrible uncle names with my friends at the UTN. i've already been asked to removed myself from the disaster i've concocted in the basement of city hall to make room for some one nicer an smarter than me. i can no longer deny nice busses to senior citizens call art garbage or make fun of the ethnic people that visit my office because they talkand dress funny. sadly i cannot torture the people around me. i cant dance around the coridors of city hall like a spastic ballerina. i really liked the dancing. i am so lost. i needa drink. i know! i know what i'll do!! when i report to work monday with my hubby at human resources i'll conspire with him and make evil plans again. WAIT, i know, maybe i'll call lady one. lady one will rescu me. if not i'm sure she has some laundry that needs to be folded. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3821 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 05:39:42 Subject: New York Times: MENENDEZ IS COMFORTABLE WITH DORIA IN THE SENATE New York Times Sunday June 13, 2004 Raymond Hernandez MENENDEZ IS COMFORTABLE WITH DORIA IN THE SENATE The congressman has a burst of modesty. WASHINGTON "There are no bosses in Hudson County," Representative Robert Menendez was explaining on Wednesday afternoon. The modesty of Mr. Menendez was stunning, to say the least. Here, after all, was a man who was about to re-establish his political grip over Hudson County, almost exactly a year after his adversaries dealt him one of the harshest blows he has suffered in his rise to power there. Only a few hours after he made those comments, the Hudson County Democratic Committee gathered at the Henry Harris School in Bayonne and, in one well-orchestrated vote, dispelled any doubts about Mr. Menendez's influence. The committee picked one of his closest allies, Mayor Joseph V. Doria of Bayonne, to fill the State Senate seat left vacant by one of the congressman's chief rivals, Glenn D. Cunningham, who died suddenly last month. Still, Mr. Menendez sought to play down his role in the decision, even as he predicted the outcome of the meeting earlier in the day. "This is not a question of my choice," he protested. "This is not my decision." But hardly any seasoned veteran of Hudson County politics actually believes that. Rather, the selection of Mr. Doria - a 24-year veteran of the Assembly and the speaker in 1990 - was widely seen as cementing Mr. Menendez's standing as the de facto Democratic leader of the county. Only a year ago, Mr. Menendez's influence over Hudson County politics seemed to be waning. Back then, he watched a slate of candidates he supported take a beating in the primary. The results would have been bad enough on their own. But the person who helped engineer the defeat was Mr. Cunningham, also the mayor of Jersey City, who was in a protracted struggle with Mr. Menendez over control of the party. As it turns out, the results from that primary also brought bad newsfor Mr. Doria, who lost his state assembly seat in a bitter and close race to Louis M. Manzo, a Cunningham supporter. At the time, it appeared that Mr. Doria had made a big mistake in siding with Mr. Menendez. As if that were not bad enough for Mr. Menendez, Mr. Cunningham won his own primary that night, getting the nomination for State Senate in the 31st District over Harvey Smith, who had the support of Mr. Menendez. (Mr. Cunningham went on to win the seat in the general election.) But last week, all that seemed likereally old history. Mr. Menendez's choice for the Senate seat, Mr. Doria, prevailed despite vows from supportersof Mr. Cunningham to designate his widow,Sandra Cunningham, as his successor. In fact, only one name was put forward in nomination for the Senate seat for the 31st district - that of Mr.Doria - who seemed slightly over-whelmed by the rapid turn of events. "None of us expected to be here to-night," he said in a speech accepting the nomination. "God works in strange ways, and we know neither his time or place for any of us." The supporters of Mr. Cunningham, who was black, had contended that selecting Ms. Cunningham would be in keeping with the spirit in which the lines of the 31st Senatorial District were drawn: to favor a minority candidate. People in the Cunningham camp encouraged their members to stay home and boycott the meeting, saying that a longer wait, perhaps 30 days, should have been employed before a new senator was chosen. They also said that Mr. Cunningham's widow should have been asked if she was interested in the seat. "Personally speaking, I'm not speaking for the organization, she would make an excellent candidate," said Bobby Jackson, a former aide to Mr. Cunningham and the publisher of The Urban Times-News. "She understands his legacy better than anybody." Mr. Doria, in his acceptance speech, seemed to go out his way to try to mend the rift that had erupted between Mr. Menendez and Mr. Cunningham, as well try to soothe some of the racial tensions surrounding his selection. "I want to work with all the citi-zens of Jersey City and Bayonne, no matter what the religious, racial or ethnic background," he said. "We must work together." Earlier in the day, Mr. Menendez said that as the mayor of Bayonne, Mr. Doria had enough support to win the Senate seat on his own. "He doesn't necessarily need my help," he said The news out of Hudson County also had to irk Governor McGreevey, who has been skirmishing with Mr. Menendez for months. After all, Hudson County is a huge source of votes for any Democrat seeking statewide office, and Mr. Menendez seems re- invigorated. But for now, Mr. Menendez was content to quietly savor his victory. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3822 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 08:45:52 Subject: Explaining JC politics I had a tough weekend at the beach explaining how politics works in jersey city.When i was through,all i could see was my listeners shaking there heads.Tom DeGise will become the true leader that I know he is.Sometimes it takes time to get all your ducks in order.Belive me Tom DeGise will reward us for our faith in him.Jersey City first and always in our hearts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3823 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 10:04:03 Subject: I know ... Anthony will delete this post ... but it gave me a great laugh to start this dreary Monday morning. :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3824 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 10:17:48 Subject: If you don't want your post deleted. . . : Anthony will delete this post ... but it gave me a great laugh to start this dreary Monday morning. : :) If you don't want your post deleted. . . Don't: 1) Use somebody else's name 2) Make a criminal accusation 3) Use racial, religious or ethnic slurs 4) Use gross or crude remarks ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 3825 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 13:44:22 Subject: Gaughan for Mayor HCDO should endorse Bill Gaughan for Mayor. He is a true leader and most qualified for the job. He can steer the city in the right direction and right all of the wrongs that have been going on since Bret left his post in 2001. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get Real posted Message 3826 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 13:56:37 Subject: Gaughan for Dog Catcher The HCDO should endorse Bill Gaughan for town drunk. He is a true idiot, drunk, and all round dirtbag. He can steer the city right into the sewer, and help build new record deficits just like Bret did on his watch. Yeah....there's the answer to all of our problems....elect Bill Gaughan mayor....NOT!!! : HCDO should endorse Bill Gaughan for Mayor. He is a true leader and most qualified for the job. He can steer the city in the right direction and right all of the wrongs that have been going on since Bret left his post in 2001. ***************** End Of Article ****************** oddsmaker posted Message 3827 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 14:04:18 Subject: who will run??? Manzo Odea Cunningham Fulop Gaughan Smith Lipski Maldonado Schundler Vega Drayton Lets see some odds and opinions ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 3828 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 14:06:02 Subject: Gaughan ... A True Leader always wins : : : HCDO should endorse Bill Gaughan for Mayor. He is a true leader and most qualified for the job. He can steer the city in the right direction and right all of the wrongs that have been going on since Bret left his post in 2001. Bill Gaughan is and always will be a winner. When was the last time he lost an election...NUFF SAID ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** TOMMY posted Message 3829 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 14:24:51 Subject: Re: who will run??? : Manzo : Odea : Cunningham : Fulop : Gaughan : Smith : Lipski : Maldonado : Schundler : Vega : Drayton : Lets see some odds and opinions H SMITH HAS THE BEST SHOT IF CUNNINGHAM DOESN'T RUN FOLLOWED BY GAUGHAN THEN MANZO. IF CUNNINGHAM RUNS AND SPLITS THE AFRO-AMERICAN VOTE GAUGHAN COULD VERY WELL WIN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tie him up posted Message 3830 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 14:44:41 Subject: Re: Gaughan ... A True Leader always wins If he ever made it to the Mayor's Office, someone better tie him into his chair. You know how drunks tend to tip over a lot. And no one I've ever known in JC drinks more than that fish. : : : : : HCDO should endorse Bill Gaughan for Mayor. He is a true leader and most qualified for the job. He can steer the city in the right direction and right all of the wrongs that have been going on since Bret left his post in 2001. : : Bill Gaughan is and always will be a winner. When was the last time he lost an election...NUFF SAID ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fat Chance posted Message 3831 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 14:51:47 Subject: Re: who will run??? Gaughan will NEVER be Mayor of Jersey City. The people here know him too well. He's a drunk. He's a racist. He's an idiot. He's everything you DON"T want in a Mayor. I can just see him getting loaded and going to a meeting with the other Mayors ... or better yet business people on the waterfront. yeah....there's an image we need in this town. Let's all hope Billy steps up and takes the reins of power. He is the best chance we have for a bright future. : : Manzo : : Odea : : Cunningham : : Fulop : : Gaughan : : Smith : : Lipski : : Maldonado : : Schundler : : Vega : : Drayton : : Lets see some odds and opinions : H SMITH HAS THE BEST SHOT IF CUNNINGHAM DOESN'T RUN FOLLOWED BY GAUGHAN THEN MANZO. IF CUNNINGHAM RUNS AND SPLITS THE AFRO-AMERICAN VOTE GAUGHAN COULD VERY WELL WIN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 3832 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 15:07:50 Subject: Re: who will run??? Gaughan has the best shot. DeGise and the HCDO should back him. If they do.... he will win no matter who runs. (Including Billy the movie maker) : Let's all hope Billy steps up and takes the reins of power. He is the best chance we have for a bright future. : : : Manzo : : : Odea : : : Cunningham : : : Fulop : : : Gaughan : : : Smith : : : Lipski : : : Maldonado : : : Schundler : : : Vega : : : Drayton : : : Lets see some odds and opinions : : H SMITH HAS THE BEST SHOT IF CUNNINGHAM DOESN'T RUN FOLLOWED BY GAUGHAN THEN MANZO. IF CUNNINGHAM RUNS AND SPLITS THE AFRO-AMERICAN VOTE GAUGHAN COULD VERY WELL WIN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rockabilly posted Message 3833 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 15:25:30 Subject: Re: If you don't want your post deleted. . . : : Anthony will delete this post ... but it gave me a great laugh to start this dreary Monday morning. : : :) : If you don't want your post deleted. . . : Don't: : 1) Use somebody else's name : 2) Make a criminal accusation : 3) Use racial, religious or ethnic slurs : 4) Use gross or crude remarks Anthony you turn into a bigger phoney everyday. The Hitler story wasn't gross? the Lynching parody on Harvey wasn't racial? Talk about dead fathers wasn't crude? Sexual innuendo and speculation about pregnancies was okay ? Your problem is you and goon O'Melia take yourselves way too seriously. You're a wannabee techie with no life and a bad truck. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County GOP posted Message 3834 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 16:05:46 Subject: Jose Arango and Ronald Reagan Jose Arango, Chairman of the Hudson County Republican Party, with Ronald Reagan during the President's 1984 visit to Hoboken. Jose Arango, presidente del Partido Republicano del condado de Hudson, junto al Presidente Ronald Reagan en la visita que el presidente hiciera a la ciudad de Hoboken durante el año 1984. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3835 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 16:39:46 Subject: Samurai Politician : : : Anthony will delete this post ... but it gave me a great laugh to start this dreary Monday morning. : : : :) : : If you don't want your post deleted. . . : : Don't: : : 1) Use somebody else's name : : 2) Make a criminal accusation : : 3) Use racial, religious or ethnic slurs : : 4) Use gross or crude remarks : Anthony you turn into a bigger phoney everyday. The Hitler story wasn't gross? the Lynching parody on Harvey wasn't racial? Talk about dead fathers wasn't crude? Sexual innuendo and speculation about pregnancies was okay ? Your problem is you and goon O'Melia take yourselves way too seriously. You're a wannabee techie with no life and a bad truck. Take myself seriously? I'm a Samurai Politician. It's up to you to decide if that's in the way of Belushi or Mishima. The truth is that I really don't exist. It's all done with mirrors. What people think they see is only their own reflection. What was the "dead fathers" bit? I got lost on that one. Over 4,000 visitors a day at GETNJ.com -- and that's not counting the sub-Sites. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County GOP posted Message 3836 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 17:03:38 Subject: Conversación sobre la Convención con Jose Arango Director del GOP de Nueva Jersey contesta preguntas. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rockabilly posted Message 3837 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 17:30:16 Subject: Re: 40000 Visitors : : : : Anthony will delete this post ... but it gave me a great laugh to start this dreary Monday morning. : : : : :) : : : If you don't want your post deleted. . . : : : Don't: : : : 1) Use somebody else's name : : : 2) Make a criminal accusation : : : 3) Use racial, religious or ethnic slurs : : : 4) Use gross or crude remarks : : Anthony you turn into a bigger phoney everyday. The Hitler story wasn't gross? the Lynching parody on Harvey wasn't racial? Talk about dead fathers wasn't crude? Sexual innuendo and speculation about pregnancies was okay ? Your problem is you and goon O'Melia take yourselves way too seriously. You're a wannabee techie with no life and a bad truck. : Take myself seriously? I'm a Samurai Politician. It's up to you to decide if that's in the way of Belushi or Mishima. : The truth is that I really don't exist. It's all done with mirrors. What people think they see is only their own reflection. : What was the "dead fathers" bit? I got lost on that one. : Over 4,000 visitors a day at GETNJ.com -- and that's not counting the sub-Sites. Big deal 4000 visitors. Most other smut sites do triple that. The dead fathers refers to those Pulitzer winning articles concerning the long deceased dads of some local politicians. You are neither Belushi nor Mishima. More like Bozo or Clarabel. ***************** End Of Article ****************** True Grit posted Message 3838 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 17:33:42 Subject: Re: Gaughan ... A True Drunk always Stumbles Gaughan has never been a force for good on the city council. He is a bitter old man who has nothing worthwhile in his life, so he uses his council seat and his county job to manipulate people and to build his own power and personal wealth. He has never reached back into the community to give a hand to anyone other than his own daughter who he forced onto the board at the JCMUA. Just go watch her performance sometime. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I would sure like to take Bill Gaughan's blood-alcohol level one day when he's sitting on the council dias voting on how to use millions of our hard earned tax dollars. I would like to know what he's done for Jersey City other than gift wrap our council and hand it to Menendez and the evil forces of the north. I would really like to know who buys the tickets to his fundraisers and how many come from JC versus North Bergen, Union City and West NY. Gaughan is a sell out...plain and simple. He has been bought and paid for by Menendez. He is nothing but a shill for those who want to keep Jersey City divided and under the control of the north through their surrogates: Schundler's leftover minions. These people don't deserve jobs paid for by our tax dollars. They don't deserve our support. They don't deserve our vote. The day they are all flushed from the political pipes of Jersey City.....the BETTER!!!!! //// : : Bill Gaughan is and always will be a winner. When was the last time he lost an election...NUFF SAID ! : : : : : HCDO should endorse Bill Gaughan for Mayor. He is a true leader and most qualified for the job. He can steer the city in the right direction and right all of the wrongs that have been going on since Bret left his post in 2001. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Numbers Lie posted Message 3839 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 17:43:18 Subject: Re: 4000 Visitors Hey Anthony....are we talking VISITORS....or UNIQUE VISITORS. I mean....come on....if there are only 500 people visiting this site 8 times a day...putting up self-serving posts...that ain't much to brag about. And I would guess that the staff members of the press offices in the twelve municipalities probably hit this site a couple dozen times a day...each. So we may be talking more like 150 people. Then there's several numb-nuts at Meadowview who rave about this site....so now we're down to maybe 125. Of those....I would think that Cunningham's old crew probably has a lot of free time on their hands....so now we're down to about 80. Then of course...bar flies....political hangers-on and community activists...so we're down to you and your mom. Sigh.....so much for numbers. : : : : : Anthony will delete this post ... but it gave me a great laugh to start this dreary Monday morning. : : : : : :) : : : : If you don't want your post deleted. . . : : : : Don't: : : : : 1) Use somebody else's name : : : : 2) Make a criminal accusation : : : : 3) Use racial, religious or ethnic slurs : : : : 4) Use gross or crude remarks : : : Anthony you turn into a bigger phoney everyday. The Hitler story wasn't gross? the Lynching parody on Harvey wasn't racial? Talk about dead fathers wasn't crude? Sexual innuendo and speculation about pregnancies was okay ? Your problem is you and goon O'Melia take yourselves way too seriously. You're a wannabee techie with no life and a bad truck. : : Take myself seriously? I'm a Samurai Politician. It's up to you to decide if that's in the way of Belushi or Mishima. : : The truth is that I really don't exist. It's all done with mirrors. What people think they see is only their own reflection. : : What was the "dead fathers" bit? I got lost on that one. : : Over 4,000 visitors a day at GETNJ.com -- and that's not counting the sub-Sites. : Big deal 4000 visitors. Most other smut sites do triple that. The dead fathers refers to those Pulitzer winning articles concerning the long deceased dads of some local politicians. You are neither Belushi nor Mishima. More like Bozo or Clarabel. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3840 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 18:04:03 Subject: Re: 4000 Visitors Don't worry about nothin'! You used "geometric logic" to prove that the circulation is just a will 'o wisp. Now keep in mind if a visit registers at GETNJ.com, somebody did view a least a single Page here. Now when a paper says that they printed up so many issues, how many get read? Look at the piles of unopened issues in the recycling. Now even for the papers that get opened, how many get looked at past the headlines and the funnies? Do a Google search using "Congressman Menendez" and see what's the third listing? Next try a search using "McGreevey" as the search term. Nah, nobody pays any attention to me. I am sorry that my Baraka essay isn't more popular. I thought that was pretty nifty. : Hey Anthony....are we talking VISITORS....or UNIQUE VISITORS. I mean....come on....if there are only 500 people visiting this site 8 times a day...putting up self-serving posts...that ain't much to brag about. And I would guess that the staff members of the press offices in the twelve municipalities probably hit this site a couple dozen times a day...each. So we may be talking more like 150 people. Then there's several numb-nuts at Meadowview who rave about this site....so now we're down to maybe 125. Of those....I would think that Cunningham's old crew probably has a lot of free time on their hands....so now we're down to about 80. Then of course...bar flies....political hangers-on and community activists...so we're down to you and your mom. Sigh.....so much for numbers. : : : : : : Anthony will delete this post ... but it gave me a great laugh to start this dreary Monday morning. : : : : : : :) : : : : : If you don't want your post deleted. . . : : : : : Don't: : : : : : 1) Use somebody else's name : : : : : 2) Make a criminal accusation : : : : : 3) Use racial, religious or ethnic slurs : : : : : 4) Use gross or crude remarks : : : : Anthony you turn into a bigger phoney everyday. The Hitler story wasn't gross? the Lynching parody on Harvey wasn't racial? Talk about dead fathers wasn't crude? Sexual innuendo and speculation about pregnancies was okay ? Your problem is you and goon O'Melia take yourselves way too seriously. You're a wannabee techie with no life and a bad truck. : : : Take myself seriously? I'm a Samurai Politician. It's up to you to decide if that's in the way of Belushi or Mishima. : : : The truth is that I really don't exist. It's all done with mirrors. What people think they see is only their own reflection. : : : What was the "dead fathers" bit? I got lost on that one. : : : Over 4,000 visitors a day at GETNJ.com -- and that's not counting the sub-Sites. : : Big deal 4000 visitors. Most other smut sites do triple that. The dead fathers refers to those Pulitzer winning articles concerning the long deceased dads of some local politicians. You are neither Belushi nor Mishima. More like Bozo or Clarabel. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3841 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 18:09:37 Subject: BTW, you ain't one of the characters . . . BTW, you ain't one of the characters that tried to argue in court that Cunningham really didn't get all those votes in the 31st? : Don't worry about nothin'! You used "geometric logic" to prove that the circulation is just a will 'o wisp. : Now keep in mind if a visit registers at GETNJ.com, somebody did view a least a single Page here. Now when a paper says that they printed up so many issues, how many get read? Look at the piles of unopened issues in the recycling. Now even for the papers that get opened, how many get looked at past the headlines and the funnies? : Do a Google search using "Congressman Menendez" and see what's the third listing? Next try a search using "McGreevey" as the search term. Nah, nobody pays any attention to me. : I am sorry that my Baraka essay isn't more popular. I thought that was pretty nifty. : : : Hey Anthony....are we talking VISITORS....or UNIQUE VISITORS. I mean....come on....if there are only 500 people visiting this site 8 times a day...putting up self-serving posts...that ain't much to brag about. And I would guess that the staff members of the press offices in the twelve municipalities probably hit this site a couple dozen times a day...each. So we may be talking more like 150 people. Then there's several numb-nuts at Meadowview who rave about this site....so now we're down to maybe 125. Of those....I would think that Cunningham's old crew probably has a lot of free time on their hands....so now we're down to about 80. Then of course...bar flies....political hangers-on and community activists...so we're down to you and your mom. Sigh.....so much for numbers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Help!!! posted Message 3842 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 19:00:55 Subject: GAUGHAN / DEGISE Machine Politics What a turn of events....now its the DEGISE/GAUGHAN MACHINE that the people of Jersey City must FEAR!!! And these are a couple of scarey characters. : : Gaughan has the best shot. DeGise and the HCDO should back him. If they do.... he will win no matter who runs. (Including Billy : the movie maker) : : Let's all hope Billy steps up and takes the reins of power. He is the best chance we have for a bright future. : : : : Manzo : : : : Odea : : : : Cunningham : : : : Fulop : : : : Gaughan : : : : Smith : : : : Lipski : : : : Maldonado : : : : Schundler : : : : Vega : : : : Drayton : : : : Lets see some odds and opinions : : : H SMITH HAS THE BEST SHOT IF CUNNINGHAM DOESN'T RUN FOLLOWED BY GAUGHAN THEN MANZO. IF CUNNINGHAM RUNS AND SPLITS THE AFRO-AMERICAN VOTE GAUGHAN COULD VERY WELL WIN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Odds Maker posted Message 3843 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 19:15:57 Subject: Re: who will run??? ODDS of Running.....ODDS of winning Manzo---------------1:1........ 3:1 ODea----------------3:1........ 2:1 Gaughan------------1:1........ 5:1 Cunningham--------3:1........ 4:1 Smith-----------------1:1........ 5:1 Fulop-----------------8:1........ 30:1 Lipski----------------6:1........ 31:1 Maldanado---------4:1........ 5:1 Schundler----------2:1........ 2:1 Vega----------------6:1........ 25:1 Drayton------------30:1........ 100:1 : Manzo : Odea : Cunningham : Fulop : Gaughan : Smith : Lipski : Maldonado : Schundler : Vega : Drayton : Lets see some odds and opinions ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Judge posted Message 3844 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 19:18:35 Subject: Re: Gaughan ... A True Leader always wins >>> beer guzzling contests Only thing Guzzler Gaughan will ever win is a Beer Guzzling Contest. : If he ever made it to the Mayor's Office, someone better tie him into his chair. You know how drunks tend to tip over a lot. And no one I've ever known in JC drinks more than that fish. : : : : : : : HCDO should endorse Bill Gaughan for Mayor. He is a true leader and most qualified for the job. He can steer the city in the right direction and right all of the wrongs that have been going on since Bret left his post in 2001. : : : : Bill Gaughan is and always will be a winner. When was the last time he lost an election...NUFF SAID ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3845 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 21:48:26 Subject: How do you ... say sleazy in Spanish ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3846 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 21:50:10 Subject: Now I got it !!! Reagan contracted Alzheimers by shaking hands with Arango ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nope not a Menendez fan nor a GDC fan posted Message 3847 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 21:52:10 Subject: Re: BTW, you ain't one of the characters . . . Trust me Anthony...I am no Cunningham fan. I think he surrounded himself with a bunch of j-rks who got what they deserved. But I am even less of a fan of the Menendez and his bunch of lackluster looney tunes. What a sad group we have representing us and spending our money. I think the best service you could provide through this site is discussing platforms of potential opponents to these sad sacks who run our county. What a sad lot. : BTW, you ain't one of the characters that tried to argue in court that Cunningham really didn't get all those votes in the 31st? : : Don't worry about nothin'! You used "geometric logic" to prove that the circulation is just a will 'o wisp. : : Now keep in mind if a visit registers at GETNJ.com, somebody did view a least a single Page here. Now when a paper says that they printed up so many issues, how many get read? Look at the piles of unopened issues in the recycling. Now even for the papers that get opened, how many get looked at past the headlines and the funnies? : : Do a Google search using "Congressman Menendez" and see what's the third listing? Next try a search using "McGreevey" as the search term. Nah, nobody pays any attention to me. : : I am sorry that my Baraka essay isn't more popular. I thought that was pretty nifty. : : : : : Hey Anthony....are we talking VISITORS....or UNIQUE VISITORS. I mean....come on....if there are only 500 people visiting this site 8 times a day...putting up self-serving posts...that ain't much to brag about. And I would guess that the staff members of the press offices in the twelve municipalities probably hit this site a couple dozen times a day...each. So we may be talking more like 150 people. Then there's several numb-nuts at Meadowview who rave about this site....so now we're down to maybe 125. Of those....I would think that Cunningham's old crew probably has a lot of free time on their hands....so now we're down to about 80. Then of course...bar flies....political hangers-on and community activists...so we're down to you and your mom. Sigh.....so much for numbers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL posted Message 3848 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 21:52:25 Subject: Answer = Menendez : say sleazy in Spanish ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nostradamus posted Message 3849 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 21:55:52 Subject: I know Mr. Dolan well. He's a true gentleman. But loyal to a fault. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3850 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 21:57:01 Subject: Sorry. Arango retired the trophy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** soldier of fortune posted Message 3851 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 22:30:53 Subject: Re: Conversación sobre la Convención con Jose Arango Chairman of what? There is not republican party in Hudson County. Arango is menendez's puppet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Arango posted Message 3852 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 14, 2004 at 22:32:44 Subject: The elephant with donkey's tail Arango has the head of an elephant and the ass of a donkey.... he gets f**** by menendez all the time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Big Joik posted Message 3853 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 06:51:51 Subject: Re: Explaining JC politics : I had a tough weekend at the beach explaining how sandcastles works in jersey city cause there is no sand.When i was through,all i could see was my listeners shaking there heads.Tom DeGise will become the true leader that I know he is.Sometimes it takes time to get all your lameducks in order.Belive me Tom DeGise will reward us for our faith in his ability to catch me with the butterfly net. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3854 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 07:27:37 Subject: Glory Days How can we return Jersey City to the glory days of the past?We must elect a Mayor who puts Jersey City first.He must be Honest,fair and bright.He must listen but take orders from no one.No more Bad land deals ,no more scams, bad bond deals, or concert ticket scams.In other words,nothing like the last four years.Let the games begin for a better jersey city for everyone. Have a great Dayand enjoy your life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3855 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 09:44:47 Subject: News Highlight: Government needs to move forward. Government needs to move forward. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3856 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 09:45:38 Subject: News Highlight: "God works in strange ways." "God works in strange ways." ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3857 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 09:59:46 Subject: Bring back Tom Gaynor For mayor Of JC Nobody would boss him around.Except Nancy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loonies Run this Asylum posted Message 3858 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 11:14:23 Subject: Re: Bring back Tom Gaynor For mayor Of JC Tom Gaynor is one of the least talented, most partisan, lack-luster fools I think this town has ever been forced to listen to. He has no new ideas and considers it reform to replace the current lot of idiots with his own gaggle of fools. This is a man who thinks he knows everything, and in fact knows absolutely nothing of value. He offers no new ideas, no new approaches to old problems, no new ways of dealing with the inherent problems of urban life. He just yells louder than the rest of the fools that think they deserve to run this town and control the money and patronage. Tom Gaynor is a loser and I am sick of reading his name on this board. No doubt he writes his own PR. His wife never did anything worthwhile when she was on the Council either. She was nothing more than a watergirl for Schundler and his right-wing crew. So please stop touting Tom Gaynor as if that fool has something to offer residents of this great city. Gaynor is a leach. He is a parasite. He is of no use nor interest to the voters of this city. If he ran...he would find out just how low the level of respect he commands amongst those of us who are tired of listening to his BS. Tom.....go to the shore and don't come back. We don't need you here. And we don't want you here. : Nobody would boss him around.Except Nancy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3859 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 12:34:19 Subject: Re: Glory Days What "Glory Days" are you reminiscin' about? Gangemi gettin' the boot 'cause he wasn't a citizen? J. V. Kenny, Whelan and buds gettin' tossed in the hoosegow? The recession and urban decay during the Jordan years? Did you EVER live in Jersey City?!? : How can we return Jersey City to the glory days of the past?We must elect a Mayor who puts Jersey City first.He must be Honest,fair and bright.He must listen but take orders from no one.No more Bad land deals ,no more scams, bad bond deals, or concert ticket scams.In other words,nothing like the last four years.Let the games begin for a better jersey city for everyone. Have a great Dayand enjoy your life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 3860 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 12:50:17 Subject: Re: O'Dea always a Brain Surgeon : Bill O'Dea planned to ban Mister Softie years before Bloomberg ever even thought of it! : And wasn't that the same year that Tom Hart wanted to outlaw scantily clad joggers exercising within view of senior citizen housing? Jeepers! That'd be one way to LOSE the senior vote for sure! Bill O'Dea is right. Jersey City needs to do ban Mr. Softie. O'Dea = Moron/Idiot. Gaughan for Mayor. The only true leader. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaughan for Mayor posted Message 3861 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 12:52:04 Subject: O'Dea always a Brain Surgeon : : Bill O'Dea planned to ban Mister Softie years before Bloomberg ever even thought of it! : : And wasn't that the same year that Tom Hart wanted to outlaw scantily clad joggers exercising within view of senior citizen housing? Jeepers! That'd be one way to LOSE the senior vote for sure! : Bill O'Dea is right. Jersey City needs to do ban Mr. Softie. : O'Dea = Moron/Idiot. : Gaughan for Mayor. The only true leader. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3862 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 14:21:14 Subject: Re: Bring back Tom Gaynor For mayor Of JC Nurse Betsy is Tom Gaynor. A legend in his own mind. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3863 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 14:48:15 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show: June 14, 2004 Pat speaks with L. Harvey Smith about the transistion and on assuming the responsibility of Mayor of Jersey City. To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marquis de Sade posted Message 3864 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 16:26:47 Subject: Masochism I am beginning to believe that Mr. Gaynor posts these messages on this board with the clear expectation that he will be beaten up by all those who reply. Ah, masochism. As the song says "hurts so good". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr X-Ray posted Message 3865 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 18:34:12 Subject: Tom Gaynor Is the only one fo Mayor OfJC He knows all the players and their History.Who the sellouts are,and who the loyal ones are.This is important in order to put JC back on the right track.Think it over Taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3866 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 18:42:41 Subject: Re: Masochism HURT ME - - - WHIP ME :) : I am beginning to believe that Mr. Gaynor posts these messages on this board with the clear expectation that he will be beaten up by all those who reply. : Ah, masochism. As the song says "hurts so good". ***************** End Of Article ****************** One Big Problem posted Message 3867 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 18:46:06 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor Is the only one fo Mayor OfJC That would be a logical way of thinking. But the problem here is that Tom is the SELLOUT. Tom is the DISLOYAL one. Tom IS the PROBLEM. Tom is the one with a HISTORY of divisiveness and deserves to be flushed from the political pipes of Jersey City. : He knows all the players and their History.Who the sellouts are,and who the loyal ones are.This is important in order to put JC back on the right track.Think it over Taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Ix-nay posted Message 3868 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 20:03:16 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor Is the Village Idiot OfJC No small acomplishment. Evin the hcdo thinks he is an idiot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Big Joik posted Message 3869 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 20:07:20 Subject: Re: Glory Days : How can we return Jersey City to the glory days of the past?We must elect a Mayor who puts the riddding of this anoying gnat of Jersey City first.He must be Honest,fair and bright for this gnat is crafty and has evaded capture with the butterfly net.The chief will deploy all detectives and a special 'swat' team.I pray they do not miss their target. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3870 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 21:41:07 Subject: Jose Arango Re-Elected Republican County Chairman Tonight, Jose Arango was re-elected Republican County Chairman. As this is a two-year term, Jose Arango will be Hudson County Republican Chairman during the Republican Convention in New York City, the Presidential Elections, and the Gubernatorial Election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3871 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 22:05:35 Subject: Yawn !!! As if anybody cares. Jose is as corrupt as they come. He will gladly sell himself, or his party principles, to the highest bidder. The fact he could hold positions in both the Schundler and Cunningham Administrations speaks volumes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 3872 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 15, 2004 at 22:09:23 Subject: Just wondering ... Why do they let people like Tom Gaynor near computers ? I'm guessing in the assisted care facility he must be living in, people with dementia or senility like himself can only feed their own delusions by posting on boards like this. But of course, this is Anthony's board, where the inmates run the asylum. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Arango posted Message 3873 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 04:02:42 Subject: Arango a true democrat Arango as always will make sure that the democrats win big in Hudson County..... Someone told me he saw Senator Kenny at Casino in the park at the same time while the election were being held... he went to give the repu-democrats the ok to vote for Arango... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Shundler posted Message 3874 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 04:06:48 Subject: Schundler was absent from chairman election A good thing Schundler is staying away from Arango... he will sell him on a heart beat... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mia Scanga posted Message 3875 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 04:21:50 Subject: Talking Politics TV Show Check out our website www.TalkingPolitics.net.. We have 6 shows streaming off the site so you don't need Comcast/Cablevision to view us anymore.... If you're interested in getting onto my email list so as to be notified of our latest show and other news worthy local events, contact me.... Our TV schedule is JC- Mondays at 9:30pm and Thursdays at 7:30pm, channel 51. Hoboken, North Bergen, Union City and Weehawken - Thursdays at 9:30pm, channel 19. ***************** End Of Article ****************** plain label posted Message 3876 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 04:48:14 Subject: Schundler was absent from chairman election A good thing Schundler is staying away from Arango... he will sell him on a heart beat... ***************** End Of Article ****************** plain label posted Message 3877 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 04:48:59 Subject: Arango a true democrat Arango as always will make sure that the democrats win big in Hudson County..... Someone told me he saw Senator Kenny at Casino in the park at the same time while the election were being held... he went to give the repu-democrats the ok to vote for Arango... ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3878 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 05:40:45 Subject: Re: Arango a true democrat : Arango as always will make sure that the democrats win big in Hudson County..... Someone told me he saw Senator Kenny at Casino in the park at the same time while the election were being held... he went to give the repu-democrats the ok to vote for Arango... Upstairs, at a teachers' retirement event, State Senator Bernard Kenny was in attendance. I actually walked into the wrong room, but realized my mistake when I saw the Hudson County Democratic Chairman. The Hudson County GOP meeting was held in the room downstairs at the Casino in the Park. At no time was Bernard Kenny there. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3879 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 07:25:02 Subject: Why is verybody picking on him?Poor Tom Gaynor He must be doing something right.He seems to rattle a few bones around here.Keep us informed,Tom.You really do know all the players around here. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nurse Betsy posted Message 3880 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 07:51:07 Subject: Give Tom Gaynor a Name of a Politician in HC. He will tell you their complete histoty -.Good or Bad.This should be a lot of fun. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val ain't no Gal posted Message 3881 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 09:04:31 Subject: Re: Why is verybody picking on him?Poor Tom Gaynor Val is Tom. He has to make up his own supporters. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3882 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 09:05:47 Subject: Re: Give Tom Gaynor a Name of a Politician in HC. : He will tell you his complete histoty -.Good or Bad.This should be a lot of fun. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr X-Ray posted Message 3883 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 09:53:23 Subject: I think Tom Gaynor was Right about "Total Victory" 'Only Total Victory will give yoy total peace".This guy knows what it takes to bring these guys down. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Ix-Nay posted Message 3884 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 10:04:42 Subject: Re: I think Tom Gaynor was Right about "Total Victory" Nurse Betsy Val Dr.X-Ray Okay Sybil, back to your padded cell. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yawn posted Message 3885 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 10:30:27 Subject: Tom Gaynor is a self-promoting Dirt Bag Only running Tom and Nancy Gaynor out of town on a rail will help build peace in this town. Go to your shore home (paid for with JC Tax Dollars) and preach to the seagulls Tom. We've heard this old garbage before and are tired of seeing you shamelessly promote yourself using aliases. If you think we're so stupid that we don't know its you writing about your glories....you are mistaken. But then again you are a shameless idiot, so its no wonder you think we're buying your crap. .: 'Only Total Victory will give yoy total peace".This guy knows what it takes to bring these guys down. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yawn ? Is that you Chakotay? posted Message 3886 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 11:08:52 Subject: 31st Senate seat is a Jersey City Seat Lets bring it back to Jersey City.Then we will be a first class city again.What do you think? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thanks :) posted Message 3887 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 12:06:15 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor is a self-promoting Dirt Bag Finally someone calls it like it is. This guy is a drag on our city, a drag on the process, a drag on everything he comes in contact with. Gaynor......HIT THE ROAD. We don't need you here. We don't want you here. You're nothing but a self-promting assh0le. : Only running Tom and Nancy Gaynor out of town on a rail will help build peace in this town. Go to your shore home (paid for with JC Tax Dollars) and preach to the seagulls Tom. We've heard this old garbage before and are tired of seeing you shamelessly promote yourself using aliases. If you think we're so stupid that we don't know its you writing about your glories....you are mistaken. But then again you are a shameless idiot, so its no wonder you think we're buying your crap. : .: 'Only Total Victory will give yoy total peace".This guy knows what it takes to bring these guys down. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yawn posted Message 3888 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 12:41:58 Subject: Re: 31st Senate seat is a Jersey City Seat Not Chakotay..... guess again ;) As for the 31st Senate seat.... defniately...get it back to JC. : Lets bring it back to Jersey City.Then we will be a first class city again.What do you think? ***************** End Of Article ****************** mypsychictarot posted Message 3889 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 14:41:05 Subject: Harvey mr. harvey smith will not get the nod fROM HCDO FOR MAYOR. HE WILL BE OUSTER IN NOVEMBER. I'M SURE HARVEY SMITH WILL GET TO RETIRE FROM POLITICS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** who knows posted Message 3890 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 15:25:57 Subject: what is the future for Manzo any opinions? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3891 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 15:54:36 Subject: Did someone call my name ? The seat is in good hands with Joe Doria. :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3892 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 16:32:28 Subject: Mayor race rumours Here's 2 I heard last night: 1) Dr. Epps (JC Public Schools) might run 2) With O'Dea and Manzo there's some sort of first refusal deal. One of them won't run, if the other does. Anybody know if there's anything to these maybe/ifs? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3893 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 16:44:21 Subject: I'd say that the days are numbered : The seat is in good hands with Joe Doria. : :) Given his heft, I'd say that the days are numbered for any seat with Joe Doria's name on it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3894 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 16:50:20 Subject: the days are numbered : The seat is in good hands with Joe Doria. : :) Given Joe Doria's heft, like in an old Laurel and Hardy movie, I'd say that the days are numbered for any seat with Bayonne Joe's name on it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yawn posted Message 3895 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 16:53:04 Subject: Re: what is the future for Manzo : any opinions? This all depends on a number of factors. First: Will Manzo actually do something notable and important for the people of Jersey City? And if he does accomplish something...does he have the ability to get the word out? Second: Does Billy run for Mayor and support Manzo for re-election to the Assembly? Third: What will DeGise's numbers look like as he gets ready to run for re-election? Will Manzo decide to run for that seat instead? Forth: Has Manzo pizzed off the HCDO enough that they put their resources and efforts on the line to finally get rid of him? Fifth: How much of his own money does Manzo feel like spending on his re-election? He won't be able to raise much w/o Glenn around to be his fund-raiser draw. Sixth: Will his minions show up at Headquarters to help his re-election effort since he has done NOTHING for anyone who worked for him in the past? Seventh: Will the Hudson delegation (ie: Joe D) work with or against him for the remainder of his term? Joe could easily be the stick in the spokes that tumbles Manzo off his political moped. Any way you look at it, Manzo will have some political waves to ride over the next few months. Does he have the smarts to make it through the rough spot? Your guess is as good as mine. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inquiring Mind posted Message 3896 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 16:59:24 Subject: Ron Manzo Is there anymore news on this man? ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 3897 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 18:34:46 Subject: Re: Mayor race rumours : Here's 2 I heard last night: : 1) Dr. Epps (JC Public Schools) might run : 2) With O'Dea and Manzo there's some sort of first refusal deal. One of them won't run, if the other does. : Anybody know if there's anything to these maybe/ifs? Gaughan will defeat any of the above. Charlie Epps for Mayor ? YIKES!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3898 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 19:11:32 Subject: Re: Mayor race rumours : : Here's 2 I heard last night: : : 1) Dr. Epps (JC Public Schools) might run : : 2) With O'Dea and Manzo there's some sort of first refusal deal. One of them won't run, if the other does. : : Anybody know if there's anything to these maybe/ifs? : : Gaughan will defeat any of the above. : Charlie Epps for Mayor ? YIKES!!! At the moment, I'm not even thinking about how they'd fare as either candidates or as the Mayor. Now, I'm just curious if anybody else has heard these rumours and any further details. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3899 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 19:27:24 Subject: Re: Ron Manzo : Is there anymore news on this man? Recently, Gary Taffet, McGreevey's former Chief of Staff, was indicted for insider trading. We should soon be hearing a lot more about (and from) Ron Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3900 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 16, 2004 at 20:05:58 Subject: SEC Indicts Gary Taffet, Former Chief of Staff to Governor James McGreevey, For Insider Trading COMPLAINT Plaintiff U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (the "Commission") alleges: SUMMARY 1. This is an insider trading case involving serial breaches of spousal duties of trust and confidence that resulted in an unlawful trading scheme yielding more than $3 million in ill- gotten gains. During 1998 and 1999, the defendants purchased, and tipped others who purchased, common stock or call options for the common stock of certain publicly traded companies on the basis of material, confidential, nonpublic information that these companies were targets of proposed but unannounced mergers or acquisitions. Preceding each instance of unlawful trading, defendant Fiore J. Gallucci received information concerning the proposed business combinations in confidential conversations with his wife, who learned it in the course of her employment as secretary to a senior partner in the mergers and acquisitions practice at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher and Flom (“Skadden”). 2. Gallucci misappropriated the inside information from his wife by disclosing it to his close friend, defendant Ronald A. Manzo, who in turn disclosed it to, among others, his friend and business associate, defendant Gary B. Taffet. After receiving the inside information, Manzo and Taffet purchased and tipped others who purchased the subject securities. The defendants' actions resulted in illegal trading profits of at least $3 million when the prices of the securities rose in response to the public announcements of the mergers or acquisitions. . . . To read the rest of the SEC indictment in HTML format, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3901 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 07:11:55 Subject: One more reason why it should be Tom Gaynor Jersey City now more then ever needs honest government.This guy i know will take no guff from anyone.Bring him back from Avon -By-The-Sea.just for two years so we can get back on our feet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3902 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 08:01:02 Subject: Re: One more reason why it shouldn't be Tom Gaynor : Jersey City now more then ever needs peace and queit.This guy i know is the biggest joik ever and wants to feed at the public trough again.Bring him back from Avon -By-The-Sea if you want to help him line his coffeers.just for two years so he can get back on his feet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BayJim25 posted Message 3903 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 08:41:57 Subject: Glenn's Sister's Letter to Doria What a letter! Doria's comment was an insult to my family Wednesday, June 16, 2004 Letters to the Editor The Jersey Journal I have followed Mr. Joseph Doria's career over the years and until now have seldom found fault with the manner in which he has conducted his political business. How he could proudly stand as the appointed state senator of District 31 after having actively pursued this honor within hours of my brother's death is beyond belief. That he should say "God works in strange ways" when describing the basis for his ascension is not only an insult to my family but is also further proof of the contempt that he has for the electoral process that defeated him in June, and the judicial system which in September dismissed his frivolous attempt to disenfranchise the citizens of District 31. I am not naive; I understand the adversarial process. I have lived within it for most of my adult life. But I have always thought there were rules of common decency that controlled the manner in which opposing forces dealt with each other. Apparently this is a concept that Mr. Doria, in the fullness of his arrogance does not understand. On a more personal level Sen. Doria, you may not physically occupy Glenn's Senate seat, but you will never possess the courage, the strength of character, or the integrity to fill it with honor it deserves. ELAINE CUNNINGHAM GARDNER Sister of the late Honorable Glenn. D. Cunningham Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3904 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 08:43:06 Subject: Who was the guy that got in trouble for stealing trees? Back in the mid-nineties, there was a guy working for the City of Jersey City who got in trouble for stealing trees. Does anybody remember the particulars? To make matters worse, wasn't he a supervisor? Didn't he force employees that he was responsible for to come to his house, dig holes, and plant the trees -- on the taxpayer's dime? Where was the house located? Does anybody out there have a better memory for particulars than I do? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mia Fcanga posted Message 3905 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 08:50:10 Subject: Half man, half women Confusing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3906 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 08:57:22 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Concerned posted Message 3907 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 09:27:53 Subject: Re: Gaughan for Mayor : HCDO should endorse Bill Gaughan for Mayor. He is a true leader and most qualified for the job. He can steer the city in the right direction and right all of the wrongs that have been going on since Bret left his post in 2001. You must be dumb , deaf ,and blind or just a straight racist to say that! Idiot!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo Mess posted Message 3908 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 09:30:03 Subject: Re: Ron Manzo Poor poor Ronnie is going to jail. After all insider trading is bad thing. Shame Ronnie, Shame!!! Have we ever had a Mayor who'se brother was behind bars for insider trading? How about a candidate who'se brother was under indictment? Looks like poor Lou has now being screwed out of the Mayor's office by a second brother. We all remember how Allen did it to him before. Now I guess its Ronnie's turn. : : Is there anymore news on this man? : Recently, Gary Taffet, McGreevey's former Chief of Staff, was indicted for insider trading. We should soon be hearing a lot more about (and from) Ron Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** P posted Message 3909 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 10:06:02 Subject: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy!!! I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Concerned posted Message 3910 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 10:10:35 Subject: WHERE'S WILLIE??? Where's Willie Flood? We need a person like her to combine with Sandy to win the City back!!! Sandy as Mayor and Willie as At-Large Council person sounds like a 1 2 punch!!! I would love to see that. They really care about people not agendas. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Puleeeeeze posted Message 3911 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 10:15:23 Subject: Re: One more reason why it should be Tom Gaynor He's a dipstick. Leave him where he is and lock the doors. By the way TOM... we know Nurse Betsy is YOU> It seems you are your ONLY fan. As for the handle you use....are you really a cross dresser? : Jersey City now more then ever needs honest government.This guy i know will take no guff from anyone.Bring him back from Avon -By-The-Sea.just for two years so we can get back on our feet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where's Waldo? posted Message 3912 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 10:22:18 Subject: Re: WHERE'S WILLIE??? Willie Flood lol what a joke! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Quote of Lou Manzo posted Message 3913 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 10:37:04 Subject: Re: Ron Manzo Louis Manzo released a statement yesterday in support of his brother. "I cannot defend my brother's actions nor can I make excuses for them. I love my brother," the statement read. "I support his decision to accept responsibility and I stand by him in this time of need, just like any other brother would. I was raised never to walk away from anyone.(except those who worked their butts off to get me elected...those people can go screw themselves)" : Is there anymore news on this man? ***************** End Of Article ****************** One Sick Puppy posted Message 3914 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 10:48:59 Subject: Re: Great Board You Got Here Anthony : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! You're Mom Must be so proud!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood posted Message 3915 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 11:09:02 Subject: Re: WHERE'S WILLIE??? : Willie Flood lol what a joke! We will see in June how funny it is!!! But watch November first!!!! Then laugh at that!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who's Anthony? posted Message 3916 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 11:11:12 Subject: Re: Great Board You Got Here Anthony : : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! : You're Mom Must be so proud!!!!! It's my opinion!!! No matter how true it is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** P posted Message 3917 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 11:17:53 Subject: Re: News Highlight: : "God works in strange ways." Who's GOD was Doria talking about? Certainly not mine!! GOD was nowhere in that equation. But he will be now. Every dog has it's day!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jack posted Message 3918 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 11:19:24 Subject: Re: Who was the guy that got in trouble for stealing trees? : Back in the mid-nineties, there was a guy working for the City of Jersey City who got in trouble for stealing trees. Does anybody remember the particulars? : To make matters worse, wasn't he a supervisor? Didn't he force employees that he was responsible for to come to his house, dig holes, and plant the trees -- on the taxpayer's dime? Where was the house located? : Does anybody out there have a better memory for particulars than I do? Who cares? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood posted Message 3919 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 11:22:09 Subject: Re: Glenn's Sister's Letter to Doria : What a letter! : Doria's comment was an insult to my family : Wednesday, June 16, 2004 : Letters to the Editor : The Jersey Journal : I have followed Mr. Joseph Doria's career over the years and until now have seldom found fault with the manner in which he has conducted his political business. : How he could proudly stand as the appointed state senator of District 31 after having actively pursued this honor within hours of my brother's death is beyond belief. That he should say "God works in strange ways" when describing the basis for his ascension is not only an insult to my family but is also further proof of the contempt that he has for the electoral process that defeated him in June, and the judicial system which in September dismissed his frivolous attempt to disenfranchise the citizens of District 31. : I am not naive; I understand the adversarial process. I have lived within it for most of my adult life. But I have always thought there were rules of common decency that controlled the manner in which opposing forces dealt with each other. Apparently this is a concept that Mr. Doria, in the fullness of his arrogance does not understand. : On a more personal level Sen. Doria, you may not physically occupy Glenn's Senate seat, but you will never possess the courage, the strength of character, or the integrity to fill it with honor it deserves. ELAINE CUNNINGHAM GARDNER Sister of the late Honorable Glenn. D. Cunningham Jersey City Don't worry Elaine that just goes to show how much of a joke HC politics is. They call themselves Democrats. This is a dictatorship now. Just wait till the people speak!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Right On posted Message 3920 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 11:33:26 Subject: Re: Great Board You Got Here Anthony : : : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : : : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : : : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! : : You're Mom Must be so proud!!!!! : It's my opinion!!! No matter how true it is. Yeah man!! I'm glad someone finally has the balls to bring these points out!! I think they did it too. Wasn't Doria making like 100,000 as senator? I know if someone who I thought was less qualified (in my eyes) took my 100k job and there wasn't a damn thing I could do about it I would be highly peeved. And we all know why Doria thinks he was better qualified than Glenn. Menendez was VERY afraid of Glenn and is even more afraid of Sandy and the strong support she will get!! We still have the POWER!! That's why they might have killed him!! Geez! This is BIG BUSINESS!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I KNOW posted Message 3921 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 11:36:37 Subject: They Are All Going to Jail Mr.Christe will eventually get all of you!!!! So start saving your bail money!!!!! HA HA HA!! You know who I'm talking too!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Concerned posted Message 3922 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 11:38:33 Subject: Re: Did someone call my name ? : The seat is in good hands with Joe Doria. : :) Yeah if you work for Menendez! ***************** End Of Article ****************** God Bless Her posted Message 3923 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 12:02:02 Subject: Wonderful Willie Flood Wonderful Willie is pure Class. God Bless her. : Where's Willie Flood? We need a person like her to combine with Sandy to win the City back!!! Sandy as Mayor and Willie as At-Large Council person sounds like a 1 2 punch!!! I would love to see that. They really care about people not agendas. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Are Not Alone posted Message 3924 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 12:04:05 Subject: Others Share Your Views : : : : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : : : : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : : : : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! : : : You're Mom Must be so proud!!!!! : : It's my opinion!!! No matter how true it is. : Yeah man!! I'm glad someone finally has the balls to bring these points out!! I think they did it too. Wasn't Doria making like 100,000 as senator? I know if someone who I thought was less qualified (in my eyes) took my 100k job and there wasn't a damn thing I could do about it I would be highly peeved. And we all know why Doria thinks he was better qualified than Glenn. Menendez was VERY afraid of Glenn and is even more afraid of Sandy and the strong support she will get!! We still have the POWER!! That's why they might have killed him!! Geez! This is BIG BUSINESS!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Judgement Day IIs Coming posted Message 3925 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 12:05:23 Subject: God Bless The US Attorney : Mr.Christe will eventually get all of you!!!! So start saving your bail money!!!!! HA HA HA!! You know who I'm talking too!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BREAKING NEWS ! posted Message 3926 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 12:34:53 Subject: BREAKING NEWS ! Bill Odea to endorse Jerry Healy for Mayor for HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 3927 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 12:42:22 Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS ! : : Bill Odea to endorse Jerry Healy for Mayor for HCDO. Bill Gaughan will be the canidate for the Hcdo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 3928 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 12:52:46 Subject: Tom Gaynor stole the Trees That is why he moved to Avon -By-The-Sea.In order to enjoy them.Thanks . ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3929 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 13:44:43 Subject: Beautiful trees in Avon By the Sea I was wondering where Tom & Nancy Gaynor got those beatiful trees.Now i know, shame on them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Concerned posted Message 3930 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 13:51:01 Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS ! : : : : : Bill Odea to endorse Jerry Healy for Mayor for HCDO. : Bill Gaughan will be the canidate for the Hcdo. And he WILL lose!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Concerned posted Message 3931 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 13:55:25 Subject: Harvey Smith is FINISHED!!!!!! This dumb puppet dosen't have the backing of any body. No one wants him. Blacks, Whites, HCDO, Jersey City... After his little term he might as well move to Alaska and go into selling igloos!! He's DONE stick a fork in him!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 3932 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 14:20:58 Subject: Re: Wonderful Willie Flood Yeah, Good Ole' Willie... He really is a nice guy. : Wonderful Willie is pure Class. : God Bless her. : : Where's Willie Flood? We need a person like her to combine with Sandy to win the City back!!! Sandy as Mayor and Willie as At-Large Council person sounds like a 1 2 punch!!! I would love to see that. They really care about people not agendas. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Know posted Message 3933 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 15:43:35 Subject: I know what u did on May 25th!!!! We know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Courage posted Message 3934 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 15:44:54 Subject: Why is everyone so quiet now? Afraid? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Huh??? posted Message 3935 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 16:41:30 Subject: This is by far the most idiotic post I have seen on this board Please take this information to Oliver Stone for his upcoming documentary entitled GDC. Maybe there is a still to be discovered video tape of a child sharing cotton candy that will turn out to be the "magic bullet". The man died of an arterial problem that is far too common in this country. If you really want to show support to the late mayor, please visit your doctor for a complete heart examination. If you really want to show your paranoia, please visit your doctor for a complete head examination. : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3936 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 16:53:04 Subject: An attempt is made to determine with certainty the future course of events, but success is not immediately encountered. Listening to the New Jersey political savant, Bruce Springsteen, sing of Madame Marie, I decided to consult a fortuneteller. To hear the result, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 3937 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 17:30:01 Subject: Doria Backdoors Senate Seat Doria Backdoors Senate Seat ***************** End Of Article ****************** KoolAid Break posted Message 3938 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 17:47:17 Subject: Jersey City is Bankrupt Glenn Supporters should realize that the City is bankrupt and this fact was hidden. Wait until the this news breaks. Glenn was a great man not a god he had issues and like the rest of humanity he fell short. Tell the Police and the Firefighters to understand Glenn was only human not perfect. Where did all the money go well guess what like every dime ever stolen from the people of Jersey City know one will know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I was there posted Message 3939 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 18:47:12 Subject: Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy First of all, you sir are a moron; Secondly, it was NOT a child who gave him the cotton candy, it was an adult...and a non-political person...I know..I was there; Third, and finally, if you had any clue about what happened, you would also know that heart/arterial disease is the Number 1 killer of middle-aged African-American males in the US. Mayor Cunningham had not been feeling 100% for quite a while, however he was so dedicated to both his positions as Mayor and Senator and under such stress and time constraints with the travelling between JC and Trenton, that he negelected his own health... And to what end......so people like you could use valuable space to spread ridiculous rumours instead of using it constructively to warn other men (and women) to take preventative care of their health. Do your part to at least make sure his death was not in vain. Let it be a warning! ***************** End Of Article ****************** good article posted Message 3940 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 19:18:38 Subject: Re: Doria Backdoors Senate Seat Good perspective Steve Fulop - Glenn had you there for a good reason, and Rev Allen - keep fighting the good fight ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're posting in response to P, right? posted Message 3941 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 20:10:32 Subject: Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy I dont' believe that your post was a reply to Huh???'s post. All of us could benefit from regular checkups to prevent this silent killer. I'm in agreement with you...let Mr. Cunningham's premature death be a warning to all of us, regardless of our ancestry. Heart/arterial disease kills across the board without respect to ethnicity, gender, income etc. : First of all, you sir are a moron; : Secondly, it was NOT a child who gave him the cotton candy, it was an adult...and a non-political person...I know..I was there; : Third, and finally, if you had any clue about what happened, you would also know that heart/arterial disease is the Number 1 killer of middle-aged African-American males in the US. : Mayor Cunningham had not been feeling 100% for quite a while, however he was so dedicated to both his positions as Mayor and Senator and under such stress and time constraints with the travelling between JC and Trenton, that he negelected his own health... And to what end......so people like you could use valuable space to spread ridiculous rumours instead of using it constructively to warn other men (and women) to take preventative care of their health. Do your part to at least make sure his death was not in vain. Let it be a warning! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Really...we had no idea posted Message 3942 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 20:14:33 Subject: Re: Jersey City is Bankrupt The city has been bankrupt for a long time (thank you Brett). We've given away our best assets and made the homeowners of inner Jersey City unfairly pay more than their share (thanks again Brett). Case in point...the old Medical Center. We could have gotten $17 Million for the complex however, I doubt that we will get a fraction of that from the developer who was awarded the old JCMC facility. This money is now lost to us and we all will have to pay more for this loss. : Glenn Supporters should realize that the City is bankrupt and this fact was hidden. Wait until the this news breaks. Glenn was a great man not a god he had issues and like the rest of humanity he fell short. Tell the Police and the Firefighters to understand Glenn was only human not perfect. Where did all the money go well guess what like every dime ever stolen from the people of Jersey City know one will know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3943 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 20:23:29 Subject: SOS from the UTN You'd think Glazer was back again here at GETNJ.COM aka UTN.COM. I guess we'll be getting all the news that's fit to line the bird cage or litter pan again. And Rev. Allen ? What a joke !!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hopalong Cassidy posted Message 3944 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 20:28:12 Subject: Just shoot me !!! If it's a race between Healy, Manzo and Gaughan watch Sandra Cunningham sneak in. Then just shoot me !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3945 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 20:29:54 Subject: You mean ... Bobby Jackson, Joe Cardwell and Gene Drayton ? Hallelujah !!! : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rip van Winkle posted Message 3946 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 20:31:58 Subject: I know where she is. She's either at the hairdresser or sleeping in her seat at tonite's Board of Ed meeting. : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3947 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 20:37:06 Subject: I know who it was !!! It was Colonel Mustard in the Conservatory with the candlestick. : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3948 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 20:39:23 Subject: Get over it. Doria did nothing wrong. You guys got a bad break. Now live with it ... and stop the whining. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 3949 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 20:41:18 Subject: C'est la vie. Bwahahahahahaha. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. Greenjeans posted Message 3950 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 20:43:19 Subject: Green Acres. Phil .. you know where Willie is .. feeding at the same public trough you two have been using for years. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Men in White Coats posted Message 3951 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 23:21:34 Subject: Nut Job >>>Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy!!! You are a delusional and ignorant individual. Your perception of reality is warped and distorted beyond belief. : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val ain't a Gal posted Message 3952 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 23:33:45 Subject: Re: Beautiful trees in Avon By the Sea : I wasnt wondering where Tom & Nancy Gaynor got those beatiful trees.i know, shame on them. and get a life Tom. Stop posting to yourself. Ur as funny as a corpse. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. In-Nay posted Message 3953 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 17, 2004 at 23:34:55 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor stole the Trees : That is why he moved to Avon -By-The-Sea.In order to enjoy them and build sandcastles in the shade.Thanks . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr X-Ray posted Message 3954 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 06:47:21 Subject: Tom "Glory Days" Gaynor for Mayor of Jersey City I received a phone call last night from one of the "Best of the Best" tpush for Tom. so i am pushing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3955 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 07:30:48 Subject: Ron & Lou Manzo and Family I have know the Manzo Family for many years.They are good decent people.Lou loves Jersey City and is a stand up guy. You always know where he is coming from.Ron is also a good decent person. Yes, he made a mistake and he will pay for it but he has also done a lot of good.I will always consider him a good friend.As for the Manzo family. There are none better then this family.God bless you all and hang in there.Everything will turn out all right. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 3956 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 07:58:35 Subject: Re: Ron & Lou Manzo and Family : I have know the Manzo Family for many years.They are good decent people.Lou loves Jersey City and is a stand up guy. You always know where he is coming from.Ron is also a good decent person. Yes, he made a mistake and he will pay for it but he has also done a lot of good.I will always consider him a good friend.As for the Manzo family. There are none better then this family.God bless you all and hang in there.Everything will turn out all right. ***************** End Of Article ****************** In the know posted Message 3957 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 08:29:55 Subject: Re: Ron & Lou Manzo and Family Thank you for that because if you look on the JCForum on NJ.com most of the comments are just plain nasty. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr Ix-Nay posted Message 3958 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 08:55:27 Subject: Re: Tom "Glory Days" Gaynor for Mayor of Jersey City : Your meds must have just wore off.U make a nice post about the Manzos then you goback to ur plain old stupid self. Get a life loser! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know posted Message 3959 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 09:09:39 Subject: Re: They Are All Going to Jail : Mr.Christe will eventually get all of you!!!! So start saving your bail money!!!!! HA HA HA!! You know who I'm talking too!!! It's gonna start with Mr.Kenny. Then he's gonna tell on someone then they are gonna tell someone and before you know it every member of the HCDO will be telling on eachother. No Loyalty!! At least Bobby, Joe and Gene were loyal to their friend and this great city. They will last because they have Loyalty!! The other HCDO are cutthroat politicians who would step on their own mother to get up!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Know posted Message 3960 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 09:12:32 Subject: Re: You mean ... : Bobby Jackson, Joe Cardwell and Gene Drayton ? Hallelujah !!! : : ) Never!! You know who. Robert Menendez, Tom Deguise, Bernard Kenny, Albio Sires, Harvey Smith, Bob Gaughan etc..... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood Jr. posted Message 3961 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 09:20:42 Subject: Re: I know where she is. : She's either at the hairdresser or sleeping in her seat at tonite's Board of Ed meeting. : : ) Whatever. That's right she's at the hairdresser getting her beautiful hair done just like a QUEEN should. I would sleep too if I had to listen to asinine and incipid people like you too. I would tune out too. I would expect this kind of talk from jealous people. That is a weak emotion. It's for women actually. Grow up. You need a hug!!! :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***************** End Of Article ****************** P posted Message 3962 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 09:32:54 Subject: Re: Nut Job >>>Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy!!! : You are a delusional and ignorant individual. Your perception of reality is warped and distorted beyond belief. : : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! No!! Actually I am firmly grounded in reality that's why I feel the way I do. I know how vicious white people can be when they are threatened by a black man. They were afraid of Glenn. Plain and simple. Everybody knows it. It will eventually come out. U know it and I know it. God is Great!!!! P.S. Your name should have been man with a white face!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood Jr. posted Message 3963 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 09:35:16 Subject: Re: Wonderful Willie Flood : : Yeah, Good Ole' Willie... He really is a nice guy. : : Wonderful Willie is pure Class. : : God Bless her. : : : Where's Willie Flood? We need a person like her to combine with Sandy to win the City back!!! Sandy as Mayor and Willie as At-Large Council person sounds like a 1 2 punch!!! I would love to see that. They really care about people not agendas. Your mother's a man. Say that to me. I got something for you. This is her son. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood Jr. posted Message 3964 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 09:42:53 Subject: Re: Green Acres. : Phil .. you know where Willie is .. feeding at the same public trough you two have been using for years. How could you even part your lips to say some stuff like that. They have more respect and integrity than all of you combined. can you go through Jersey city and feel safe? No. But they can because people respect them. Not by force but for how they treat people. So say what you want coward. And next time say your name so I can know who you are if u really a man. I said my name and I can easily be contacted. ***************** End Of Article ****************** P posted Message 3965 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 09:48:48 Subject: Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy : I dont' believe that your post was a reply to Huh???'s post. All of us could benefit from regular checkups to prevent this silent killer. : I'm in agreement with you...let Mr. Cunningham's premature death be a warning to all of us, regardless of our ancestry. Heart/arterial disease kills across the board without respect to ethnicity, gender, income etc. : : : First of all, you sir are a moron; : : Secondly, it was NOT a child who gave him the cotton candy, it was an adult...and a non-political person...I know..I was there; : : Third, and finally, if you had any clue about what happened, you would also know that heart/arterial disease is the Number 1 killer of middle-aged African-American males in the US. : : Mayor Cunningham had not been feeling 100% for quite a while, however he was so dedicated to both his positions as Mayor and Senator and under such stress and time constraints with the travelling between JC and Trenton, that he negelected his own health... And to what end......so people like you could use valuable space to spread ridiculous rumours instead of using it constructively to warn other men (and women) to take preventative care of their health. Do your part to at least make sure his death was not in vain. Let it be a warning! Yeah it is a warning. That If they want you they will get you!! Brothers and sisters BE CAREFUL. If you get too powerful they will get you. They can say what they want call me crazy all they want I DONT CARE. I Know!!! But I hope I am wrong!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get Real My Brother posted Message 3966 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 10:17:39 Subject: Re: Nut Job >>>Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy!!! Brother Glenn was a good man. Brother Glenn had high hopes for all of our city. But brother Glenn had several greedy black men around him who pushed to hard and killed him. Want to know who killed Glenn? Forget your conspiracy theories and paranoia and look closer to home. We killed Glenn by piling dcades of hopes and dreams on his shoulders and expecting him to make our lives better all by himself. We killed Glenn. Ain't no white man strong enough to take out that brother. We did it ourselves. So look in the mirror and you will see who had the gun in his hand. You did, I did, we all did. But I will never give the white man the power to have killed Glenn. If anything did, it was the pressure we put on him to help lift us up. If anything did, it was our aspirations, and the greed of those who were allowed to get too close to him. : No!! Actually I am firmly grounded in reality that's why I feel the way I do. I know how vicious white people can be when they are threatened by a black man. They were afraid of Glenn. Plain and simple. Everybody knows it. It will eventually come out. U know it and I know it. God is Great!!!! : P.S. Your name should have been man with a white face!! : : You are a delusional and ignorant individual. Your perception of reality is warped and distorted beyond belief. : : : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : : : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : : : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** This Guy is a Nut posted Message 3967 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 10:59:12 Subject: Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy GET THE BUTTERFLY NET.....THIS ONE IS A LUNATIC!! : Yeah it is a warning. That If they want you they will get you!! Brothers and sisters BE CAREFUL. If you get too powerful they will get you. They can say what they want call me crazy all they want I DONT CARE. I Know!!! But I hope I am wrong!! : : I dont' believe that your post was a reply to Huh???'s post. All of us could benefit from regular checkups to prevent this silent killer. : : I'm in agreement with you...let Mr. Cunningham's premature death be a warning to all of us, regardless of our ancestry. Heart/arterial disease kills across the board without respect to ethnicity, gender, income etc. : : : : : First of all, you sir are a moron; : : : Secondly, it was NOT a child who gave him the cotton candy, it was an adult...and a non-political person...I know..I was there; : : : Third, and finally, if you had any clue about what happened, you would also know that heart/arterial disease is the Number 1 killer of middle-aged African-American males in the US. : : : Mayor Cunningham had not been feeling 100% for quite a while, however he was so dedicated to both his positions as Mayor and Senator and under such stress and time constraints with the travelling between JC and Trenton, that he negelected his own health... And to what end......so people like you could use valuable space to spread ridiculous rumours instead of using it constructively to warn other men (and women) to take preventative care of their health. Do your part to at least make sure his death was not in vain. Let it be a warning! ***************** End Of Article ****************** P posted Message 3968 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 11:10:14 Subject: Re: Nut Job >>>Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy!!! : Brother Glenn was a good man. Brother Glenn had high hopes for all of our city. But brother Glenn had several greedy black men around him who pushed to hard and killed him. Want to know who killed Glenn? Forget your conspiracy theories and paranoia and look closer to home. We killed Glenn by piling dcades of hopes and dreams on his shoulders and expecting him to make our lives better all by himself. We killed Glenn. Ain't no white man strong enough to take out that brother. We did it ourselves. So look in the mirror and you will see who had the gun in his hand. You did, I did, we all did. But I will never give the white man the power to have killed Glenn. If anything did, it was the pressure we put on him to help lift us up. If anything did, it was our aspirations, and the greed of those who were allowed to get too close to him. : : : No!! Actually I am firmly grounded in reality that's why I feel the way I do. I know how vicious white people can be when they are threatened by a black man. They were afraid of Glenn. Plain and simple. Everybody knows it. It will eventually come out. U know it and I know it. God is Great!!!! : : P.S. Your name should have been man with a white face!! : : : You are a delusional and ignorant individual. Your perception of reality is warped and distorted beyond belief. : : : : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : : : : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : : : : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!! How could you be a brother and make ststements like that!? It was those racist bastards who did it. If they didn't do it with poision they did it by stressing him out!! I hope I am wrong about them physically killing him but my feelings will NEVER change. Not By U or anybody else. Everybody talks about who was around him. Glenn was his own man. Nobody made him do anything. Bobby and Joe were advisors. And the Mayor was their friend. Greedy? How? We don't have as much money as the HCDO. What are you talking about? ***************** End Of Article ****************** P posted Message 3969 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 11:10:49 Subject: Re: Nut Job >>>Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy!!! : Brother Glenn was a good man. Brother Glenn had high hopes for all of our city. But brother Glenn had several greedy black men around him who pushed to hard and killed him. Want to know who killed Glenn? Forget your conspiracy theories and paranoia and look closer to home. We killed Glenn by piling dcades of hopes and dreams on his shoulders and expecting him to make our lives better all by himself. We killed Glenn. Ain't no white man strong enough to take out that brother. We did it ourselves. So look in the mirror and you will see who had the gun in his hand. You did, I did, we all did. But I will never give the white man the power to have killed Glenn. If anything did, it was the pressure we put on him to help lift us up. If anything did, it was our aspirations, and the greed of those who were allowed to get too close to him. : : : No!! Actually I am firmly grounded in reality that's why I feel the way I do. I know how vicious white people can be when they are threatened by a black man. They were afraid of Glenn. Plain and simple. Everybody knows it. It will eventually come out. U know it and I know it. God is Great!!!! : : P.S. Your name should have been man with a white face!! : : : You are a delusional and ignorant individual. Your perception of reality is warped and distorted beyond belief. : : : : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : : : : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : : : : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!! How could you be a brother and make ststements like that!? It was those racist bastards who did it. If they didn't do it with poision they did it by stressing him out!! I hope I am wrong about them physically killing him but my feelings will NEVER change. Not By U or anybody else. Everybody talks about who was around him. Glenn was his own man. Nobody made him do anything. Bobby and Joe were advisors. And the Mayor was their friend. Greedy? How? We don't have as much money as the HCDO. What are you talking about? ***************** End Of Article ****************** P posted Message 3970 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 11:13:17 Subject: Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy : GET THE BUTTERFLY NET.....THIS ONE IS A LUNATIC!! : : Yeah it is a warning. That If they want you they will get you!! Brothers and sisters BE CAREFUL. If you get too powerful they will get you. They can say what they want call me crazy all they want I DONT CARE. I Know!!! But I hope I am wrong!! : : : I dont' believe that your post was a reply to Huh???'s post. All of us could benefit from regular checkups to prevent this silent killer. : : : I'm in agreement with you...let Mr. Cunningham's premature death be a warning to all of us, regardless of our ancestry. Heart/arterial disease kills across the board without respect to ethnicity, gender, income etc. : : : : : : : First of all, you sir are a moron; : : : : Secondly, it was NOT a child who gave him the cotton candy, it was an adult...and a non-political person...I know..I was there; : : : : Third, and finally, if you had any clue about what happened, you would also know that heart/arterial disease is the Number 1 killer of middle-aged African-American males in the US. : : : : Mayor Cunningham had not been feeling 100% for quite a while, however he was so dedicated to both his positions as Mayor and Senator and under such stress and time constraints with the travelling between JC and Trenton, that he negelected his own health... And to what end......so people like you could use valuable space to spread ridiculous rumours instead of using it constructively to warn other men (and women) to take preventative care of their health. Do your part to at least make sure his death was not in vain. Let it be a warning! Yeah Yeah Yeah!!! Blah Blah Blah!! They called Jesus crazy!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3971 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 11:56:11 Subject: Will Ron Manzo's Plea of Guilty Hurt Lou Manzo? Guilt by association is not a popular activity. As both Presidents Carter and Clinton prove, having a "colorful" sibling isn't a drawback. And that certainly goes at least double here in Hudson County. One thing is important, though. On the part of the candidate, there must be no hint of involvement in the suspect activity. The chance of success for a Manzo campaign remains undiminished. Of course, what those odds are is open to interpretation -- and finally testing by contest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Counselor posted Message 3972 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 16:22:38 Subject: Put away the crack pipe - - - fool You are a fool and I pity you for your ignorance. You see.... the uneducated can be educated. The unwashed can be cleaned. But the ignorant....well you are gonna be ignorant no matter what. I pity you. : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** A fool and delusional posted Message 3973 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 16:24:36 Subject: Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy This 26-yr old delusional punk is comparing himself to Jesus. Now here's a guy we should all listen to....yeah right. Here's one for meadowview. : : GET THE BUTTERFLY NET.....THIS ONE IS A LUNATIC!! : : : Yeah it is a warning. That If they want you they will get you!! Brothers and sisters BE CAREFUL. If you get too powerful they will get you. They can say what they want call me crazy all they want I DONT CARE. I Know!!! But I hope I am wrong!! : : : : I dont' believe that your post was a reply to Huh???'s post. All of us could benefit from regular checkups to prevent this silent killer. : : : : I'm in agreement with you...let Mr. Cunningham's premature death be a warning to all of us, regardless of our ancestry. Heart/arterial disease kills across the board without respect to ethnicity, gender, income etc. : : : : : : : : : First of all, you sir are a moron; : : : : : Secondly, it was NOT a child who gave him the cotton candy, it was an adult...and a non-political person...I know..I was there; : : : : : Third, and finally, if you had any clue about what happened, you would also know that heart/arterial disease is the Number 1 killer of middle-aged African-American males in the US. : : : : : Mayor Cunningham had not been feeling 100% for quite a while, however he was so dedicated to both his positions as Mayor and Senator and under such stress and time constraints with the travelling between JC and Trenton, that he negelected his own health... And to what end......so people like you could use valuable space to spread ridiculous rumours instead of using it constructively to warn other men (and women) to take preventative care of their health. Do your part to at least make sure his death was not in vain. Let it be a warning! : Yeah Yeah Yeah!!! Blah Blah Blah!! They called Jesus crazy!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** O-k-a-y....sure FOOL posted Message 3974 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 16:29:39 Subject: Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy!!! Maybe that's what I saw a few days before Glenn up and dropped dead. You see Menendez was having lunch with Bernie Kenny and Joe Doria at a restaurant in Newark. I saw Menendez slip a VIAL with a clear liquid to Kenny. And then I heard Kenny say he would get it "delivered" within a few days. Next thing I heard was that Kenny had lunch with Mayor Man. HE MUSTA DONE IT!!! BERNIE KENNY MUST HAVE POISENED OUR MAYOR!!! DAMN... that one is slick. I think I heard he's supposed to be slaying a dragon while cross-dressed and dancing to George Michael tunes on Washington Blvd later tonight. I'll meet you there. FOOL. : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3975 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 16:36:01 Subject: Good will win out over evil Time is on the side of good.Jersey City will again raise out from the ashes.Clean streets,no crime,No corruption and people will vote for who they want and not because this is how they are told to Vote.Wouldnt that be a beautiful Jersey City? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3976 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 17:49:27 Subject: "... not to mention intimidating HDCO workers on the street. . ." Saw this curious statement in last week's Al Sullivan column in the Reporter: Unlike the HCDO, the Cunningham team does not have a formal structure, and to win the Senate seat for Cunningham in the 2003 primary and later in the general election, the Cunningham team made liberal use of city workers. Without this work force to get the vote out (not to mention intimidating HDCO workers on the street) a Sandra Cunningham Senate race is next to impossible. - - - I know that this is the Reporter's opinion column. Stil, the serious charge of municipal workers disrupting political activity shouldn't be made as an aside. Al Sullivan, you owe the people of Jersey City either details or an apology! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3977 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 17:55:43 Subject: ". . . not to mention intimidating HDCO (sic) workers on the street . . ." Saw this curious statement in last week's Al Sullivan column in the Reporter: "Unlike the HCDO, the Cunningham team does not have a formal structure, and to win the Senate seat for Cunningham in the 2003 primary and later in the general election, the Cunningham team made liberal use of city workers. Without this work force to get the vote out (not to mention intimidating HDCO workers on the street) a Sandra Cunningham Senate race is next to impossible." I know that this is the Reporter's opinion column. Stil, the serious charge of municipal workers disrupting political activity shouldn't be made as an aside. Al Sullivan, you owe the people of Jersey City either proof or an apology! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3978 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 20:52:24 Subject: Re: Good will win out over evil : Time is on the side of good.Jersey City will again raise out from the ashes.Clean streets,no crime,No corruption and people will vote for who they want and not because this is how they are told to Vote.Wouldnt that be a beautiful Jersey City? So as soon as the slime by the nme of Tom leaves, wewill have a beutiful city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're proving yourself to be a danger to society posted Message 3979 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 21:17:57 Subject: Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy : Yeah Yeah Yeah!!! Blah Blah Blah!! They called Jesus crazy!! Now you have a Jesus complex as well as being paranoid...tsk, tsk, tsk. Who's next, Napoleon??? I hope that your family will do right by you and have you committed before you hurt yourself or an innocent bystander. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weezil Deal posted Message 3980 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 22:16:06 Subject: Show me the money !!! The Manzo Family was about to get another public contract at last nite's Board of Ed meeting. Then at the last moment the Board members realized it might not look to good to award a contract to a firm founded by a convicted felon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** think again posted Message 3981 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 22:42:45 Subject: Re: Will Ron Manzo's Plea of Guilty Hurt Lou Manzo? to be a fool is not to be a thief. when people use inside information in trading securities they profit from other's ignorance and ultimately their loosses. colorful is not the same as corrupt. : Guilt by association is not a popular activity. : As both Presidents Carter and Clinton prove, having a "colorful" sibling isn't a drawback. And that certainly goes at least double here in Hudson County. : One thing is important, though. On the part of the candidate, there must be no hint of involvement in the suspect activity. : The chance of success for a Manzo campaign remains undiminished. Of course, what those odds are is open to interpretation -- and finally testing by contest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phoney Anthony posted Message 3982 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 18, 2004 at 23:31:49 Subject: Re: Double Standard : Saw this curious statement in last week's Al Sullivan column in the Reporter: : "Unlike the HCDO, the Cunningham team does not have a formal structure, and to win the Senate seat for Cunningham in the 2003 primary and later in the general election, the Cunningham team made liberal use of city workers. Without this work force to get the vote out (not to mention intimidating HDCO workers on the street) a Sandra Cunningham Senate race is next to impossible." : I know that this is the Reporter's opinion column. Stil, the serious charge of municipal workers disrupting political activity shouldn't be made as an aside. : Al Sullivan, you owe the people of Jersey City either proof or an apology! Lets see Al Sullivan says city workers were forced to work in an election and an apology is needed. You allow a post that accuses white people of murdering Glenn and that is allowed to be run up the flagpole. You're a pathetic human being. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HUMAN BEING is way 2 good for Anthony posted Message 3983 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 00:12:27 Subject: Re: Double Standard : : Saw this curious statement in last week's Al Sullivan column in the Reporter: : : "Unlike the HCDO, the Cunningham team does not have a formal structure, and to win the Senate seat for Cunningham in the 2003 primary and later in the general election, the Cunningham team made liberal use of city workers. Without this work force to get the vote out (not to mention intimidating HDCO workers on the street) a Sandra Cunningham Senate race is next to impossible." : : I know that this is the Reporter's opinion column. Stil, the serious charge of municipal workers disrupting political activity shouldn't be made as an aside. : : Al Sullivan, you owe the people of Jersey City either proof or an apology! : : Lets see Al Sullivan says city workers were forced to work in an election and an apology is needed. You allow a post that accuses white people of murdering Glenn and that is allowed to be run up the flagpole. You're a pathetic human being. ***************** End Of Article ****************** John A. Zukowski posted Message 3984 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 03:19:19 Subject: The celebrity connection The celebrity connection Musicians, moguls, star athletes all shaped by their time here Sunday, June 13, 2004 By JOHN A. ZUKOWSKI The Express-Times The Lehigh Valley and northwestern New Jersey have produced many accomplished athletes. For local sports fans who want an exhaustive list there's no better resource than "Sports Legends of the Lehigh Valley" by Emmaus resident Evan Burian. But some of those sports figures reached celebrity status, too. They join the musicians, business moguls and other celebrities who complete our look at famous people with connections to The Express-Times coverage area. Athletes: Mario Andretti Local connection: Grew up in Nazareth, lives in Bushkill Township. Claim to fame: World-famous race car driver. Bio: It was June 16, 1955, when Andretti, 15, and his family sailed past the Statue of Liberty from Italy headed for a town in a state he couldn't pronounce. "I don't mean to sound sacreligious, but we had only heard of one other fellow from Nazareth," Andretti said in his autobiography. "He'd been gone nearly 2,000 years and to the best of my knowledge he didn't even drive chariots." Andretti and his twin brother, Aldo, fell in love with racing when they saw Alberto Ascari race in Italy. They didn't forget about their dream of racing when they settled in Nazareth. Andretti and family had $125 at the time and didn't speak English. But Mario found a way to pursue his dream. The twins worked in an uncle's garage and in 1959 began racing a 1948 Hudson Hornet sportsman stock car. The first race Mario entered was in Nazareth. In 1963 he turned heads when he won three races in one day -- one in Flemington and two in Hatfield, Pa. In 1969, Mario achieved his longtime dream of winning the Indianapolis 500. After that, Nazareth Borough Council renamed Market Street as Victory Lane in honor of Andretti's victory. Andretti also returned home to a hero's welcome in a parade through Nazareth. Andretti's racing accomplishments are staggering and too numerous to mention here. But along with those honors Andretti became more than just a sports figure. He became a worldwide celebrity synonymous with race cars. Perhaps it's the musical sound of his name, but mention Mario Andretti and even non-sports fans know who he is. Just one example? Country singer's Alan Jackson's recent hit "Drive," when Jackson sings "I was Mario Andretti when Daddy let me drive." Where they are now: Owns several businesses including a winery in California's Napa Valley, several car dealerships, gas stations and car washes in the Lehigh Valley. Chuck Bednarik Local connection: Born May 1, 1925, in Bethlehem. Graduated from Liberty High School in 1943. Claim to fame: Football star for Philadelphia Eagles as both center and linebacker. In 1960 he led the Eagles to the NFL title as one of pro football's last players who played both offense and defense. NFL Hall-of-Famer. Bio: Bednarik is one of the NFL's most legendary players. One reason is a ferocious tackle he made in 1960 on Frank Gifford, who received such a severe concussion he didn't play for the New York Giants again until 1962. The other is that when he was 35, he played both offense and defense in his 12th season in 1960. That made him one of the NFL's last of the legendary "60-minute men." He finished off that season's 58-minute championship game performance with a victory-saving, bear-hug tackle of Green Bay's Jim Taylor at the Eagles' 10-yard line. That tackle supposedly haunted Green Bay coach Vince Lombardi until his death. It was the only time Vince Lombardi lost a title game as head coach. It was also the Eagles' last NFL championship. Where they are now: Lives in Coopersburg, Pa. Occasionally still talks about his legendary status as one of the last of the NFL's iron men. "A linebacker is like an animal," he told ESPN. "He's like a lion or a tiger and he goes after prey. He wants to eat him, he wants to kick the s--- out of him. That's a linebacker." Al Downing Local connection: Attended Muhlenberg College. Claim to fame: Hank Aaron hit his historic 715th home run off of him in 1974 -- which broke Babe Ruth's longstanding record. Bio: There have been more consistent and outstanding athletes who played sports locally. But Downing has a place in baseball history. It was the fifth greatest moment in baseball, according to Sports Illustrated. It was April 8, 1974. The nation tuned in for a Dodgers-Braves game to see if Aaron would break one of baseball most sacred records -- Babe Ruth's career record of 714 home runs. Aaron had been receiving 3,000 letters a week, most of them hate letters and death threats because he was threatening to break Ruth's record. Before a sellout crowd in Atlanta, Downing threw a 1-0 pitch to Aaron in the fourth inning. Aaron knocked the ball over the left-field fence and made history. And the nation breathed a sigh of relief as Aaron rounded the bases unharmed -- except for two joyful fans who jumped onto the field and ran alongside him. Downing pitched for the Dodgers until 1977 after playing 17 seasons, mostly with the Dodgers and the Yankees. Downing was born in Trenton and was a star athlete there. He attended Muhlenberg for a brief time on a basketball scholarship from 1959 to 1960. Where they are now: Lives in California. Because of his place in one of baseball's most historic records, his autograph is much in demand. So he travels the country signing for fans at sports collectible shows. Larry Holmes Local connection: Grew up in Easton, lives in Palmer Township. Claim to fame: World heavyweight boxing champion 1978-1985. Bio: Holmes was born in Cuthbert, Ga., but his family moved north to Easton in search of better jobs. Holmes first lived on Easton's South Side in the 200 block of East Lincoln Street in a row house. He went to school at Taylor Elementary School. Holmes made money by crossing the bridge into Phillipsburg with a shoeshine kit and going from bar to bar to shine shoes, Holmes recalled in his autobiography "Against the Odds." Holmes started wrestling and regularly won matches at St. Anthony's Youth Center. At age 10, Holmes started fighting in three-round Wednesday night bar fights in the backrooms of local bars. A PAL worker drove through Easton, picked up young fighters and took them to bars in Easton, Bethlehem and Allentown. The boxers would go to a back room and patrons circled around to watch them fight. By the time Holmes went to Shull Junior High School he was a football player. One day after a fight in school, police arrested Holmes and put him in juvenile detention. A judge later told Holmes if he quit school he wouldn't have to go to reform school. So Holmes quit school and went to work at a car wash. Several factory jobs followed until he found a job driving a truck. A former fighter named Earnee Butler got Holmes interested in boxing. Holmes' career took off. For a while he trained at Muhammad Ali's facility in Deer Park, Pa., south of Pottsville. When Holmes came back to Easton and said he knew Ali, some people thought he was boasting. But they were silenced when Ali boarded a bus and came to Easton with Holmes to speak at Easton Junior High School and Northampton County Prison. It was 1978 when Holmes won the heavyweight title by defeating Ken Norton. Holmes was given a hero's welcome when he returned. He rode in an open limousine down Route 22 to Easton with a large crowd waiting to greet him in Centre Square. "I knew there could have been nothing like this if I came from a big city," Holmes said in his autobiography. "I was glad I stayed a small town boy." That reception was repeated after Holmes defeated Ali, his old friend, in 1980. Hundreds of people waited for him in Centre Square and an Easton department store made a 100-pound cake with a boxing ring on the top. Holmes also has stayed committed to the area. The Express-Times files are jammed with decades of charity work, appearances and local honors. Despite his worldwide fame, Holmes remains in his old hometown. "Ali was a man of the world, and me, I was never more comfortable than when I was in Easton," he said in his autobiography. Where they are now: Retired from boxing but will appear in the reality show "American Champion" this fall where an unknown amateur boxer will fight him. Continues to operate businesses and real estate ventures through his Easton-based Larry Holmes Enterprises Inc. Ed McCaffrey Local connection: Graduated from Allentown Central Catholic High School in 1986. Claim to fame: Wide receiver for the Denver Broncos, the New York Giants and San Francisco 49ers. Bio: Born in Waynesboro, Pa., in 1968, McCaffrey was a legendary player at Central Catholic where he was a star football and basketball player. When he played for the New York Giants he returned several times to the Lehigh Valley to talk to local football players. However his family later moved and he hasn't returned to the Lehigh Valley for years, he told a fan earlier this year. But he said he always remembered the support he received playing sports in the Lehigh Valley. "There are a lot of blue collar towns with hard-working people who take a lot of pride in the game of football," he said about the Lehigh Valley to a Colorado newspaper. "Almost everyone in the town goes out for the football team." McCaffrey was well-known for blocking hard, being able to take hard hits and being one of John Elway's favorite passing targets. He won Super Bowl rings with the Broncos in 1998 and '99. He also became a legend in Colorado with horseradish, mustard and cereal -- Ed's End Zone O's -- all named after him In March 2004, McCaffrey, 35, announced his retirement from football. During a press conference, Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan called McCaffrey the "most complete player" he ever coached. McCaffrey admitted he'd probably be associated with how hard he was hit on the field. "Hey, at least people will remember me," he told ESPN. "That's the only way I knew how to play the game." Where they are now: Lives in Colorado with his wife and four sons. Matt Millen Local connection: Born March 12, 1958, in Hokendauqua. Graduated from Whitehall High School in 1976. Lives in Durham Township. Claim to fame: Star linebacker in NFL for 12 years. Current president and CEO of the Detroit Lions. Bio: His past in the Lehigh Valley is almost mythological. Millen was one of 11 children in a working class family in Hokendauqua. Until he was 10, Millen lived in a home that had an outhouse. The children also took baths in a kitchen tub with water heated on the stove, Millen told a Michigan newspaper. Although Millen's father worked the second shift at Western Electric for years, money was tight. So the children tossed pennies into a jar and emptied it out each year to buy a Christmas tree. Then there was the weekly potato soup and buying day-old bread to save money, Millen told the Detroit Free Press. There are tales about his athletic ability and towering size. He spent time beefing up in Whitehall's weight room while some of his other classmates were out partying, he recalled. Millen later bought the high school a new weight room when he started playing in the NFL. Millen played for Joe Paterno at Penn State. One of his buddies was future NFL player Keith Dorney who recalled giving Millen rides to college. Just before they left, Millen's mother would load him up with huge plates of a Polish dish called golabki. "I'd hoard most of them for myself, thinking that there was some weird ingredient in the stuffed cabbage that would make me freaky-strong, too," Dorney told the Detroit Free Press. Millen was later a linebacker for the Oakland Raiders, San Francisco 49ers and Washington Redskins. When he retired in 1991, he was the only player to be a part of four Super Bowl championships with three different teams. Millen was an analyst for FOX-TV and CBS before he was hired away by the Detroit Lions. Where they are now: He still lives much of the time at a farmhouse on a 150-acre property in Durham Township, just south of the Williams Township line, with his wife and children. Billy Packer Local connection: Graduated from Liberty High School in 1958. Claim to fame: CBS sportscaster for NCAA games. Bio: For more than 20 years, Packer has been the voice for the NCAA college basketball tournament and the Final Four each spring. Packer was born in Wellsville, N.Y., and his father, Tony, was later a Lehigh University basketball coach. Packer played basketball at Liberty and was also class president his senior year. He played guard at Wake Forest and he appeared in the Final Four with the Demon Deacons in 1962. After graduating with an economics degree, he worked as an assistant basketball coach at Wake Forest. In 1972, Packer started his career as an analyst for basketball games in Raleigh, N.C. In 1974, he joined NBC Sports for the NCAA tournament. He's been announcing ever since, and is known for being one of sports' most outspoken commentators. Where they are now: Lives in North Carolina where he's a commentator for NCAA games and a motivational speaker. Jim Ringo Local connection: Graduated from Phillipsburg High School in 1949. Claim to fame: NFL center from 1953-1967. Football Hall-of-Famer. Made All-Pro eight times. Played in 182 consecutive games. Bio: Ringo was a star player for the Phillipsburg Stateliners when he grew up on Columbus Avenue in the Pursell Hill section of the town. After playing at Syracuse University, he became a center for the Green Bay Packers and Philadelphia Eagles. Ringo was center for the Packers during their NFL championships in 1961 and '62. Coach Vince Lombardi traded him to the Eagles after a salary dispute. Ringo said he respected Lombardi, but added the coach's tactics took a toll on the players. "I was as close to hell that I ever got without being there," he told an Express-Times reporter in 1993 about his time with Lombardi. However, Lombardi himself came to Phillipsburg in 1960 for a community testimonial dinner for Ringo at the Phillipsburg Elks Club. After his retirement, Ringo was line coach and head coach for the Buffalo Bills when O.J. Simpson was the Bills' star player. He also was an offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots. In 1993, the field house at Phillipsburg High School was dedicated to him. Ringo was there for the ceremony. Despite playing for the legendary Vince Lombardi, he credited his Phillipsburg football coach for his success. "Whiz Rinehart," Ringo said. "He's the greatest coach I ever had in my life." When Ringo was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1981, Ringo asked Rinehart to speak at the enshrinement. Where they are now: Ringo lives in Virginia where he has been diagnosed with early stages of Alzheimer's disease. André Reed Local connection: Born Jan. 29, 1964, in Allentown. Graduated from Louis E. Dieruff High School in 1980. Claim to fame: Receiver for the Buffalo Bills in the NFL. Bio: The seven-time pro-bowler actually was a quarterback at Dieruff where he led the Huskies to an undefeated season his senior year. The next year Reed went to Kutztown University where he was switched to wide receiver. He was drafted by the Buffalo Bills and went on to be the second-leading receiver in NFL history. Reed also held every major Bills' career receiving record when he retired after the 2000 season. In May 2004, Reed returned to the Lehigh Valley to speak to students at Springhouse Middle School where his mother works. In 2005, Reed will be eligible to be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Many local sports fans expect him to be the third area athlete to be enshrined. If so, he would join Phillipsburg's Ringo and Bethlehem's Bednarik. Where they are now: Lives in California with his wife and two children. Works as a TV commentator for the San Diego Chargers. Jayson Williams Local connection: His home is in Alexandria Township. Claim to fame: Basketball player for New Jersey Nets and Philadelphia 76ers. Former NBC sports commentator. Bio: Long before Williams was best-known for being on trial for manslaughter, his Hunterdon County dream home was famous. The 30,000-square-foot, 40-room mansion off Wolf Road has a go-cart track, bowling alley, movie theater, indoor pool, outdoor pool and spot for skeet shooting -- all spread over 130 acres. MTV's "Cribs" aired a segment that spotlighted Williams' animal farm and indoor pool. His legendary weekend parties included stars such as Leonardo DiCaprio, Will Smith, Bruce Willis, Allen Iverson, Larry Holmes, André Action Jackson and Charles Barkley. Each year he hosted an All-Star Barbecue for charity. Guests included Michael J. Fox, former New Jersey Gov. Christie Whitman and film stars Laurence Fishburne and Lauren Hutton. Williams also hosted charity events and brought terminally ill and disadvantaged children to his home. In 1999, his career came to a halt after he broke a leg and injured his knee on the court. In 2000, he wrote his first book, "Loose Balls," and signed copies close to his home at the Clinton Book Shop where two elementary school students helped him out. Williams seemed to have it all. Even after his career ended he was a sports analyst for NBC. And he enjoyed living in Hunterdon County. "I love it in Alexandria Township," he said in The Express-Times. "I look outside and pretty much all I see is a lot of cows." Then came Feb. 14, 2002. That's when authorities found the body of Costas "Gus" Christofi, 55, in Williams' bedroom. At the estate were Williams and about 10 other guests including members of the Harlem Globetrotters. They had gone to Williams' house after a Globetrotters game at Lehigh University's Stabler Arena, officials said. Testimony during a subsequent trial showed that Williams took a loaded shotgun from a cabinet, cracked it open, turned, uttered an obscenity at Christofi and snapped the weapon closed. It fired once, sending 12 pellets into Christofi's chest. Besides claiming the shooting was an accident, the defense asserted the former NBA All-Star was so distraught afterward that he could not organize a cover-up. In 2004, a Somerset County jury acquitted Williams of the most serious charge, aggravated manslaughter, as well as aggravated assault and a weapons charge. But on reckless manslaughter, the jurors split 8-4, with the majority in favor of acquittal. Where they are now: Williams will be retried on reckless manslaughter charges. A judge set a tentative trial date for Jan. 10, 2005. Miscellaneous celebrities: Bette Cooper Local connection: Born in 1920 in Hackettstown. Attended Hackettstown High School and graduated from Centenary College in 1940. Claim to fame: Miss America of 1937. Bio: Supposedly Cooper entered the Miss America contest on a dare. Her parents thought entering a beauty contest was something the brainy student shouldn't do. But they finally agreed a trip to Atlantic City would at least make for a good family vacation. But Cooper probably didn't expect to win the contest. Hours after being crowned, she disappeared with her bachelor chaperone in the middle of the night. The next day when Cooper didn't show for a photo shoot, there was a massive police search. Rumors began that Miss America had given up her crown for love. But Cooper was found safe in Hackettstown. Tired of the attention, she simply asked her gentleman friend to take her back home. Cooper grew up in Hackettstown on the 500 block of Moore Street. She attended Hackettstown High School but isn't listed as graduating. However, she met whatever credentials it took to attend college because she graduated from Centenary College. Where they are now: Lives in Connecticut where she has repeatedly turned down interview requests over the years to talk about her experience as Miss America. No woman from New Jersey has outright won the title since Cooper won. However, in 1984, the crown passed to New Jersey native Suzette Charles when Vanessa Williams stepped down after nude photos of her were published in Penthouse magazine. Judge Joe Crater Local connection: Born in Easton in 1889. Graduated from Lafayette College in 1910. Claim to fame: Famous for disappearing on Aug. 6, 1930 in New York City. Bio: Before there was Jimmy Hoffa there was Judge Crater. Crater became a cultural joke for someone who was missing. Every one from Warner Brothers cartoon characters to Rocky and Bullwinkle talked about "pulling a crater." That meant disappearing. How did it happen? Crater was last seen leaving a restaurant on W. 45th Street in New York. And never seen again. Did he take off with the showgirl? Was he killed by political enemies? Did mobsters dump his body in a river? That was what the country debated for years. In 1937, he was declared legally dead. But that didn't stop the reports of him being seen in all different areas of the country. And from spiritualists guessing where he was. But Crater's roots were in Easton. He was born and grew up on his family's home at Fifth and Ferry streets. And he later graduated from Lafayette College. At age 41 he became a New York State Supreme Court Justice. There was talk of him being appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court. Because of his political importance, historians still wonder about why he disappeared. Where they are now: Still missing. Gelsey Kirkland Local connection: Born in Bethlehem on Dec. 29, 1952. Claim to fame: Famous ballerina. Bio: The daughter of a playwright and an actress, she was born in Bethlehem and grew up on a Bucks County farm until the family moved to New York City. She attended the School of American Ballet and worked as a model so she could quit high school. At age 15, she was asked to join the New York City Ballet. In 1972, the New York City Ballet toured communist Russia where dancer Mikhail Baryshnikov saw her dance. He was so impressed with Kirkland that after he defected to the United States in 1974, he asked Kirkland to be his principal dancing partner. However, in 1976, she collapsed from nervous exhaustion and admitted she was addicted to cocaine. The downtime prevented her from acting along with Baryshnikov in the movie "The Turning Point." Eventually, she kicked her drug habit and successfully returned to dancing. In the 1990s she returned to Bethlehem to teach several master classes for the Ballet Guild of the Lehigh Valley. Where they are now: She's now retired from performing and works as a teacher and coach. Henry Kissinger Local connection: Studied at Lafayette College. Claim to fame: Assistant for National Security Affairs under President Richard Nixon. Negotiated treaty to end Vietnam War. Won Nobel Peace Prize in 1973. Was Secretary of State for President Gerald Ford. Bio: Kissinger was born May 23, 1923, in Fuerth, Germany. After Hitler came to power, the Kissinger family left Germany in 1938 and settled in New York. After graduating high school, Kissinger entered the Army. During part of his army training, he ended up in Easton at Lafayette College for eight months starting in 1943. In 1973, his Lafayette College roommate Charles Coyle wrote an article for the Lafayette alumni magazine about sharing a dorm room with Kissinger. Kissinger excelled in getting A's in his classes and in dressing sloppy, Coyle recalled. Kissinger would even wear his clothes facing the wrong direction. Kissinger read voraciously either in bed or slouching in a chair. He would sometimes mutter curse words when he read passages from books he disagreed with, Coyle recalled. In 1944, the Army discontinued the program at Lafayette and sent the soldiers to Louisiana. After Kissinger was released from the Army in 1946, he went onto earn three degrees from Harvard University. In 1984, Kissinger returned to Lafayette to receive an honorary doctor of laws degree. Kissinger previously received an honorary degree from Lehigh University in 1977. Where they are now: In 2002, Kissinger almost ended up in politics again when President George W. Bush called on him to head an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 attacks. However, Kissinger refused the appointment to avoid disclosure about his finances. Musicians: The Cyrkle Local connection: Formed in 1962 at Lafayette College in Easton. Claim to fame: Paul Simon wrote their first hit "Red Rubber Ball" which went to No. 2 on the music charts in 1967. Had a second hit with "Turn Down Day" which went to No. 16. The group's manager was the Beatles' manager Brian Epstein and John Lennon gave the group their name. They opened for the Beatles on their 1966 U.S. tour. Bio: The four members first met at Lafayette and formed a "frat-rock" band called the Rhondells. They regularly played Beach Boys and R& B songs. But after they saw the Beatles on "The Ed Sullivan Show" in 1964, they quickly added Beatles songs -- and Beatles fashion -- to their fraternity gigs. "We went out and got Beatle wigs and when we played their songs the place just went crazy," recalls bass player Tom Dawes. During summers, the band played at the Jersey Shore during a time Dawes also played bass for Simon and Garfunkel. Someone brought the local band to the attention of Beatles' manager Brian Epstein. Wanting a new name for the band, Epstein asked John Lennon if he could suggest something. Lennon scribbled the word circle with its unique spelling on a piece of paper. The name stuck. And The Cyrkle opened for the Beatles on their last U.S. tour in 1966. "We went from playing fraternities to playing in front of 70,000 people at Candlestick Park," Dawes says. The band traveled with the Beatles on the same plane during that historic tour. Dawes remembers when a psychic predicted their plane would crash. When the plane hit some turbulence, he remembers Lennon saying something from behind him. "They wouldn't kill us, would they?" the Beatle quipped. The Cyrkle broke up in January 1968. Their only on-stage reunions both happened locally. In 1986, they played with Jay and the Techniques at a benefit concert at the Allentown Fairgrounds. And in 1995, they played at Lafayette for the 30th reunion of their college class. Where they are now: Keyboardist Earl Pickens is a surgeon in Gainsville, Fla. Drummer Marty Fried is an attorney in the Detroit area. For years, vocalist Don Dannemann and bassist Tom Dawes both ran commercial music businesses in New York. Recently, Dannemann moved to Stroudsburg, Pa. Jimmy DeGrasso Local connection: Born March 16, 1963 in Bethlehem. Graduated from Liberty High School in 1981. Claim to fame: Drummer for Alice Cooper, Ozzy Osbourne, Y& T, Suicidal Tendencies and Megadeth. Appeared in the movie "Wayne's World" when he was Alice Cooper's drummer. Bio: DeGrasso remembers inviting some of his friends over to listen to records when he was a high school student. DeGrasso and his buddies listened to bands such as Black Sabbath, Rush and Kiss. Some of his friends were musicians so sometimes they would play along. Fast-forward a few years. He graduated from Liberty and was accepted at some colleges. But he thought there wasn't a career in music for him though college. So he started playing in cover bands in the Lehigh Valley and the surrounding area. But he realized that would only take him so far. So he moved to California. In 1984, he heard about a cattle-call drumming audition for Ozzy Osbourne's band. DeGrasso was one of 800 drummers who played for about 30 seconds each. Then he received a phone call. He got the gig. He recalls being in a recording studio with Osbourne. "I remember one moment looking over and seeing Ozzy and thinking how surreal it was that I was there playing with him because I used to listen to Black Sabbath records in Bethlehem," DeGrasso says. A few years later, another break came. He became the drummer in Alice Cooper's band. Which led to another fantastic moment, he recalls. Cooper's band played at a show close to the Lehigh Valley and DeGrasso's mother came to see them. Cooper is fairly reclusive, DeGrasso says. He usually arrives at and leaves his gigs quickly. But when Cooper spotted DeGrasso's mother by the tour bus, he immediately went over to her. "Hello, Mrs. DeGrasso," Cooper said. "Is Jimmy behaving himself?" DeGrasso's mother asked. "Yes, but he's not doing too good at poker," Cooper replied, referring to the tour bus ritual of filling the driving time by playing cards. "It was just surreal seeing this conversation between my mother and Alice Cooper," he recalled. DeGrasso's journey from the Lehigh Valley to playing with some of the most popular hard rock bands in the world started in his Bethlehem home. He remembers banging on things around the house. Thinking he might have some rhythm, his parents bought him drums. "I used to read interviews with musicians who would say I learned to play an instrument so I could get chicks, and I remember thinking that I started when I was 3 years old, so I wasn't thinking that far away," he says, laughing. "I know what they said was tongue and cheek, but I really was always serious about the music." During his years in Bethlehem, he played in numerous bands in local schools. He thought about those days in Bethlehem when he recently filmed a promo for VH-1 about funding school music programs. Because playing in school bands at Liberty boosted his confidence as a musician, he was disappointed similar programs were under-funded at other schools. So since Megadeth broke up in 2002 after an injury to singer/guitarist Dave Mustaine, DeGrasso has spent much time instructing young drummers in drum clinics. Where they are now: Lives in northern California with his wife and daughter. Is a session drummer and leads drum clinics teaching young drummers. Danny Federici Local connection: Born Jan. 23, 1950 in Flemington. Attended Hunterdon Central Regional High School. Claim to fame: Organist in Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band. Bio: Federici started playing the classical accordion at age 7, in his Raritan Township home. He switched to a rock 'n' roll keyboard at age 13 after first hearing the Beatles and The Rolling Stones. One of Federici's first bands was The Legends, who played regularly at the Hungarian Hall in Flemington. Federici dropped out of school in his junior year to play music full time. In 1969, he moved to Asbury Park and saw Springsteen perform at a club. He asked to join Springsteen's band which was called Child. Springsteen's band later became Steel Mill and eventually the E Street Band. As a member of the E Street Band, Federici toured and recorded with Springsteen for decades. In 1997, Federici named his solo album Flemington, which he released on his own label Deadeye Records. "Every time I gave interviews with the E Street Band, they never got the name of my hometown right, so I'm calling my first CD 'Flemington,' " Federici said just before the CD's release. "It's a way of giving recognition to my hometown and expressing how much I enjoyed growing up here." In September 2002, he returned to Hunterdon Central to play a benefit concert for the school's computer program. Where they are now: After years of living in New Jersey, he has relocated to California. Recently released his second solo album "Sweet" and is touring with his own band. Fiona Flanagan (Fiona) Local connection: Lived in Pohatcong Township. Graduated from Phillipsburg Catholic High School in 1979. Claim to fame: Had several hit albums in the mid 1980s. Starred in the movie "Hearts of Fire" with Bob Dylan and Rupert Everett. Bio: When she was 15, Flanagan started playing at local clubs, including the Wardell in Phillipsburg and the Fourth Street Saloon in Bethlehem. She was inspired by the classic rock bands of the 1970s. "It was the arena rock era and there were incredibly talented musicians in bands like Journey and Aerosmith," she says. "They absolutely knocked my socks off and I emulated them." One of her bandmates was Henry Reilly, a 1974 graduate of Phillipsburg High School, who later co-wrote one of the songs on Flanagan's debut album "Fiona." When Flanagan was 14, she played the part of a singer in the musical "Sugar" at school and realized being a singer was something she might want to do. She later applied to NYU to study theater and was accepted. But she still wanted to be a singer. "I felt scared that it would prevent me from being a singer so I decided not to go," she says. "My loving parents just about had a heart attack. I guess I was very focused and single-minded." Flanagan moved to the Poconos where she met Donnie Kisselbach, an Easton Area High School graduate who was playing bass in Rick Derringer's band. The two because musical collaborators. Flanagan later moved to New York. At age 22, she landed a record contract with Atlantic Records. In February 1985, her first album was released and was a hit. In June, she made her first return to the area opening for Bryan Adams at the Allentown Fair. In 1986 -- during the time she was dating singer Julian Lennon -- she returned to Phillipsburg Catholic High School to talk to students there. "Hang on to your dreams, because dreams come true, even in Phillipsburg," she told the students. Years later, she says Phillipsburg still holds a special place for her. "It was a wonderful place to grow up because there wasn't a lot of competition," she says. "People weren't trying to put you down; they would try to build you up." She also enjoyed her moments of fame. "I remember playing at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park and looking out and seeing a whole lot of kids from school there," she says. "That was really thrilling." After her fourth album "Squeeze" flopped in 1992, she dropped out of the music business. By that time she had moved from New York to California. She graduated with a business economics degree from UCLA then worked in the entertainment division of Price Waterhouse. She also had a small part in "The Doors" movie. But she discovered the business world just wasn't for her. In 2002, she moved back to New Jersey. She briefly worked to revive her music career, but put that on hold after the birth of her second child. Where they are now: Lives in Morris County, N.J., with her husband and two children. She hopes to record music again and is writing a play. She also regularly returns to visit her family in Pohatcong Township. "Nicolosi's Pizza, the Phillipsburg Mall and the Lopatcong Pool," are some of the places she visits when she comes back to Warren County, she says. John Gorka Local connection: Graduated from Moravian College in 1980. Lived in Palmer Township and Bethlehem. Claim to fame: Folk singer Bio: Gorka came to Moravian College after graduating college in Colonia, N.J. He graduated from Moravian in 1980 with degrees in philosophy and history. Gorka became a volunteer at the Bethlehem coffeehouse Godfrey Daniel's. The club was one of the reasons he decided to stay in the area Gorka told an Express reporter in 1985. "Godfrey's is still a real place of inspiration for me," he said. "I think we're really lucky to have a place like that around here." He also worked as assistant editor of "Sing Out!" magazine in Easton. Over the years, he worked many local stories into his songs. In his "Where the Bottles Break" he tells the story of the gentrification of his South Bethlehem neighborhood where "they've turned biker bars into flower shops." Another song "Houses in the Fields" laments development of the farms along Freemansburg Avenue between Bethlehem and Easton. In his song "Dream Street" he mentions seeing boxer Larry Holmes running near the river and even works in a famous quote from Holmes: "Promoters take the money, the fighters take the pain." It wasn't until 1996 that he moved from the Lehigh Valley. In 1997, he returned to Moravian to benefit the college's exhibit of an AIDS memorial quilt. Where they are now: Currently on a U.S. tour. He will appear Aug. 13 at Musikfest in Bethlehem. Deborah Harry Local connection: Graduated from Centenary College, Hackettstown, in 1965. Claim to fame: Lead singer of Blondie. Bio: Harry grew up in Hawthorne, N.J., where she was voted "best-looking" in high school. She was already experimenting with the punk image she'd later cultivate with Blondie. She once told People magazine she dyed her hair 12 different colors just in her senior year. After graduating high school she went to Centenary College. It's known that she lived on campus. But what she was like or how the woman who would change pop music spent her time is somewhat of a mystery. In Harry's 1982 autobiography "Making Tracks: The Rise of Blondie" she simply states: "As soon as I graduated my parents sent me to a two-year college. After graduation my main ambition was to move straight to New York and begin to try to be an artist." In 1965, Harry moved to Greenwich Village in New York City. She supported herself by working as a beautician, a model and a waitress. By 1968, she was in a folk band called Wind in the Willows and they released one album. In 1973, she met guitarist Christ Stein and they formed the band Blondie a year later. They went on to be one of the most successful bands of the late 1970s and early 1980s. Blondie broke up in 1983. Harry had a solo career as a singer and also worked as an actress. In 1999, Blondie reunited. Where they are now: Blondie's latest album "The Curse of Blondie" was recently released and the band is on a world tour. Keith Jarrett Local connection: Born March 8, 1945 in Allentown. Graduated from Emmaus High School in 1962. Lives in White Township. Claim to fame: Jazz pianist and composer. Bio: Jarrett started playing the piano at age 3 and began his career at age 6 when he performed at the Women's Club in Allentown. After graduating from Emmaus High School, he went on to the Berklee College of Music in Boston. It was while playing at a New York club that jazz great Miles Davis asked him to join his band. As a solo artist, Jarrett became famous for his solo piano improvisational concerts. Jazz fans were astounded that his concerts were improvised. Even Davis once asked him "How do you play from nothing?" "I don't know. I guess if I knew I'd be in trouble," Jarrett told Davis, according to Salon Magazine. In 1978, Jarrett returned for a homecoming solo concert at Allentown Symphony Hall. It was a benefit for the Allentown Music Club and his first area performance since he was a guest soloist for Matt Gillespie in 1962 at Moravian College. He has played at least two concerts at Lafayette College since that time. Over the years, he became one of the most critically-praised jazz musicians. But he also became known for being eccentric and finicky. He was known to walk off stage if there was too much audience noise. And in 1982, his name was in The Express when he had an attorney ask Oxford Township officials to turn down the public address system at a beach because it disturbed him in his home studio. The township's mayor agreed to lower the volume. In 1996, Jarrett was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome and slowed down his touring for several years. However, in the last few years he's started touring again. Where they are now: Has an upcoming European tour scheduled. A new album will be released later this year. Kevin Miller Local connection: Born Sept. 6, 1963 in Allentown. (High school information to be added later.) Claim to fame: Drummer for rock group Fuel. Bio: The other members of Fuel moved to Harrisburg. from Tennessee. In December 1997, after their original drummer left the band, Fuel members asked Miller to join the band. Soon after they released their album "Sunburn" which became a massive hit. Where they are now: Fuel's latest album is "Natural Selection." They are currently on a U.S. tour and recently played at Crocodile Rock in Allentown. Jay Proctor Local connection: Longtime Allentown resident. Claim to fame: Lead singer for Jay and the Techniques, an R& B band formed in 1965 in Allentown. They had two, million-selling, national hits: "Keep the Ball Rolling" and "Apples, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie." : Proctor started by singing a cappella on Allentown street corners. But it was in 1965 he formed Jay and the Techniques. After a battle of the bands contest, the band landed a recording contract and the Techniques were one of the first racially integrated bands in pop music. In 1967, the band released "Apples, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie" and "Keep the Ball Rolling" which both became massive hits. In 1968 came two lesser hits "Strawberry Shortcake" and "Baby Make Your Own Sweet Music." But by 1973, Proctor and the Techniques were playing anywhere they could, including a Junior High School dance at Warren Hills Junior High in Washington Township. In 1976, he tried to ride the coming disco craze by releasing "Number Onederful" which became a minor hit. Proctor still loves that song and thinks the song was released just a bit too early for the disco boom. Still, he sang the song often during that time, including at a gig at the Phase V Discotechque at Bethlehem's Kmart Plaza in 1977. Through the lean years Proctor tried various jobs, including working as a bartender and driving a truck for Stanley Steemer. Most didn't work out. "I hate working for other people and I don't like having to be at work at a certain time," Proctor says. "Once I tried to work in a warehouse but I ended up messing up all the orders." In 1974, Proctor was caught in a fire at the Caboose Bar in Allentown, which left nine people dead and 10 others seriously, injured, including Proctor. He spent three months in a hospital bed recovering from burns. The Techniques had various incarnations with many local members. A show at the Allentown Fairgrounds in 1986 featured 14 different members of the Techniques. Over the years, Proctor continued to live in Allentown and played numerous local shows, including Easton's Heritage Days and a benefit concert for the Easton Police Athletic League. In 1998, Proctor released his first album in 20 years. And this year, he's been recording tracks for an upcoming album to feature a rap he wrote which will be performed by his 14-year-old grandson. But his two massive hits from the 1960s haven't made him the wealthy man he could have been. "In this day and age, if I had two big records in this day and age, I'd be a millionaire," he says. Where they are now: Still lives in Allentown and often tours nationally. Recently recorded songs in an upstate New York studio for an upcoming album. Lou Reed Local connection: Lived in Blairstown from the early 1980s until sometime in the 1990s. Claim to fame: Lead singer and guitarist in the Velvet Underground. Also had successful career as a solo artist with songs such as "Walk on the Wild Side" and "Vicious." Bio: Lou Reed likes his privacy. So while it's known the legendary rocker divided his time between a Manhattan home and an 18-acre retreat in rural Warren County, few details are known about his time there. One source says he no longer lives there since he and his wife Sylvia divorced in 1994. Another source says Reed's wife was active in local politics for some of the time she and her husband lived in Warren County. However, Reed did seem to write about riding his motorcycle from his New Jersey home to the Delaware Water Gap in the 1984 song "New Sensations:" "I took my GPZ out for a ride/I rode to Pennsylvania near the Delaware Gap/sometimes I got lost and had to check the map." Where they are now: His current partner is performance artist Laurie Anderson. Reed's latest album "Animal Serenade" was recorded live in Los Angeles. Donald Voorhees Local connection: Born July 26, 1903 in Allentown. Claim to fame: Conducted "The Bell Telephone Hour" from its beginnings on radio in 1942 to the final TV show in 1968. Bio: Voorhees fronted the 57-piece Bell Telephone Orchestra for a popular national radio show on NBC. Many popular performers, from Benny Goodman to Bing Crosby, joined the orchestra over the years. In 1959, the show moved to television and included guests ranging from Duke Ellington to Rudolph Nureyev. The show was loved for its wide range of music which varied from opera to pop. When Voorhees wasn't on television or radio, he conducted the Allentown Symphony Orchestra and many famous performers played with the orchestra. Voorhees died in 1989 in Cape May, N.J. Business moguls: Lee Iacocca (Lido Iacocca) Local connection: Born in Allentown on Oct. 25, 1924. Graduated from Allentown High School in 1942 and Lehigh University in 1945. Claim to fame: Former Chrysler Corp. Chairman. Previously worked at Ford, where he became famous in 1964 for introducing the Mustang, America's first low-priced sports car. Bio: Iacocca was the son of an immigrant Italian. His father, Nicola, came to the United States at age 12. He later purchased a Model T and started one of the country's first car rental businesses. His father also later owned a restaurant, the Orpheum Wiener House and the Franklin Movie Theater in Allentown. Iacocca said the Depression-era lessons from his father about hard work helped him later become successful. That hard work carried through to Lehigh. He went to school for eight straight semesters without a break so he could graduate early with an industrial engineering degree. Iacocca went to work for the Ford Motor Company as an engineer. But he later went into sales, where he became well-known for being responsible for designing the Ford Mustang, Mercury Cougar and Lincoln Mark III. In 1978, Iacocca went to work for Chrysler Corp. In a well-publicized move, he asked the federal government to bail out the troubled corporation in 1979. After receiving $1.2 billion of assistance, the company rebounded with its production of small cars and minivans. That government-assisted comeback led Iaccoca to become a business icon and the author of a best-selling autobiography. Later in the 1980s, he also served as chairman of the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island Commission. And he also headed the acquisition of Chrysler's purchase of American Motors Corp. But with all the success, Iacocca hasn't forgotten Lehigh University. He spearheaded a campaign to raise $58 million for the university's Mountaintop campus, which included a building named after him. He also visited the university many times to speak to students and spoke to the Lehigh County Chamber of Commerce. Iacocca retired from Chrysler in 1992. Where they are now: Since retiring, Iacocca's pet project has been the electronic bicycle. He heads a company working on the E-Bike. "I believe in the future of electric vehicles," Iacocca told a reporter about the project. Roger Penske Local connection: Graduated from Lehigh University in 1959. Claim to fame: Former race car driver who became an auto racing mogul. He is the most successful owner in race car history. Bio: He's been called "the Donald Trump of the automotive and racing world." But it was while he was a student at Lehigh that his passion for racing blossomed. When the Ohio native was a student he developed into a top-notch race car driver. "I wouldn't want to report here that I cut classes, but I probably missed a few classes to go to the races," he told an Express-Times reporter in 1999. "I had a lot of excuses at the health center." While at Lehigh, he worked part time at a truck leasing company in Reading. He ended up buying the company and putting his race team shop there. It was also while at Lehigh he met Mark Donohue, who was the first of Penske's many top-notch Indy car drivers. Other top Penske drivers included Mario Andretti, Al and Bobby Unser, Tom Sneva and Emerson Fittipaldi. In 1986, Penske was in the Express-Times often when he bought Nazareth Speedway, which was renovated and turned into a major racing attraction. (However, it was recently announced the speedway will be closing because of declining attendance.) Where they are now: Travels to competitions often and continues to lead winning race teams. Reporter John A. Zukowski can be reached at 610-258-7171 or by e-mail at jzukowski@express-times.com. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3985 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 04:04:08 Subject: The facts please. Who was intimidated? When and where did the claimed incident(s?) occur? : : Saw this curious statement in last week's Al Sullivan column in the Reporter: : : "Unlike the HCDO, the Cunningham team does not have a formal structure, and to win the Senate seat for Cunningham in the 2003 primary and later in the general election, the Cunningham team made liberal use of city workers. Without this work force to get the vote out (not to mention intimidating HDCO workers on the street) a Sandra Cunningham Senate race is next to impossible." : : I know that this is the Reporter's opinion column. Still, the serious charge of municipal workers disrupting political activity shouldn't be made as an aside. : : Al Sullivan, you owe the people of Jersey City either proof or an apology! : : Lets see Al Sullivan says city workers were forced to work in an election and an apology is needed. You allow a post that accuses white people of murdering Glenn and that is allowed to be run up the flagpole. You're a pathetic human being. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3986 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 05:23:14 Subject: "Ain't no machine around can beat a man!" John Henry wins! But at what cost? . . . 'John Henry, you going to have a heavy burden and you gonna have to tote it like a man son, like a man.' Next morning early, a thousand men are gathered in the valley at the foot of the mountain come to see a race against a man and a machine. The machine was over there and three men were tending to it, and John Henry was over here rubbing his hand over the shaft of his hammer and Willy Roy was counting out the drills. BAM! A pistol shot ran out and John Henry began slamming his hammer against the drill that Willy Roy was holding and the machine went jugga, jugga, jugga, jugga...bang! bang!... jugga, jugga..and they were even for a long time, but then the dust began to rise up and the dust came down and settled on John Henry. It began to mingle with the sweat that was pouring off of him. And it came down and got in the corners of his eyes and he tried to blink it away but it kept coming back. And every time he would do that he was losing ground. The machine was getting ahead, so he picked up his thirty-five hammer and started slamming that bug again, wang! wang! But the dust was getting in his eyes and he couldn't see and he had to drop it and clear his eyes. And the machine was way ahead and the sun was almost right over head, when the contest would end. So Johnny dropped the thirty-five pound hammer and picked up two forty-five hammers and he went wang!wang!wang!wang! Bang! The pistol shot sounded the end of the contest. The judges came out and they drove long poles down into those holes. The hole made by the machine, the hole made by John Henry. And they told the results to captain Tommy. Captain Tommy said, 'I'll be, mmm mmm mmm. Listen here folks. John Henry and the machine. The machine made eleven feet, four inches, the men shoulder's sagged. John Henry made fourteen feet, seven inches. The men whooped and hollered and Captain Tommy went over to congratulate John Henry. But John Henry didn't see his outstretched hand. John Henry fell over in the dust. John Henry had hammered on the mountain, and his hammer was strike and fire but he drove so hard that he broke his poor heart, that he laid down his hammer and he died." . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fact 1 posted Message 3987 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 07:45:11 Subject: Re: The facts please. GET NJ - Hudson County Politics Message Board ORGANIZED CRIME KIDNAPS URBAN TIMES NEWS Why Are Some Hudson County Elected Officials Demanding My Name Be Removed From The Urban Times News Masthead? Re: Why Are Some Hudson County Elected Officials Demanding My Name Be Removed From The Urban Times News Masthead? The Urban Times crossed over the lines of decency. "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" onlygameintown39.shtml Re: Bobby Jackson and theUTN Moving Lips Re: Moving Lips This is great. The real facts in my lilittle town. Bobby Jackson and theUTN INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP SILENCE IS LETHAL- GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER cont. BERNIE KENNY SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT AND UTN APOLOGIZES GAUGHAN, COUNCIL SAY THEY WANT HIGHER TAXES-LET THE GAMES BEGIN AND THE BOND WATCH CONTINUES CUNNINGHAM A RACIST, URBAN TIMES NEWS A RACIST PUBLICATION, IN FACT EVERYBODY WE KNOW IS A RACIST Re: Where is the UTN Release ? Re: News 12 Video: Doria Trashes the Urban Times News Where is the UTN Release ? EXTREME HEALTH CARE MANAGEMENT-GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Re: ORGANIZED CRIME KIDNAPS URBAN TIMES NEWS The Urban Times News Re: News 12 Video: Doria Trashes the Urban Times News News 12 Video: Doria Trashes the Urban Times News Re: Can You Read ? GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER, CONT A SCANDAL THAT KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND WORSE HUDSON DIXIECRATS MENENDEZ, DORIA, KENNY, SMITH TRY TO DISENFRANCHISE JC'S WARD F, CUNNINGHAM Re: ORGANIZED CRIME KIDNAPS URBAN TIMES NEWS "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" UNCLE HARVEY LOSES SAME ELECTION TWICE-COURT KICKS HARVEY S CASE OUT OF ELECTION CHALLENGE News 12 Video: Doria Trashes the Urban Times News COUNTY PAYS UP $850K FOR MACK DADDY MENENDEZ PET VENDOR "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Re: Who Mentioned Urban Times ? JCRA TO NARROW MEDICAL CENTER DEVELOPER CHOICE AT SPECIAL MEETING WWW.NJLOWESTBID.COM HAS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP: IT S CHEAPER, IT S BETTER-AND NOBODY WANTS IT HCDO ELECTION CHALLENGE: HISTORY WILL TEACH US NOTHING "NOTHING PERSONAL," EARL MORGAN, PAT O'MELIA, AND UNCLE HARVEY TEAM UP FOR HARD-HITTING INVESTIGATIVE EFFORTS onlygameintown38.shtml Re: MENENDEZ, BIN-LADEN, AND "TRAFFICKING IN PERSONS", Urban Times News, April 2 INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP WHITLOCK CORDAGE KEEPS GETTING BETTER-FOR DEVELOPER Who owns the Urban Times news? BOND REFI-CLOCKS RUNNING, TEMPERS FLARING, RATES RISING Who Mentioned Urban Times ? SUPREME COURT THROWS OUT HCDO EMERGENT APPEAL OF ELECTION CASE ELECTION CHALLENGE CASE TOSSED-EVIL EMPIRE STUMBLES BIG TIME MAYOR MENENDEZ AIDS TERRORISTS AND MURDERER- KENNY, JR. PLEADS IGNORANCE, SAYS HE DIDN T KNOW THE BOND BOMB KEEPS TICKING-BUDGET DEFICIT ALTERNATIVES TAXES, LAYOFFS From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 NAACP DISCRIMINATION SUIT WINS STATEWIDE REFORMS AND MAYBE MORE TO COME POLITICAL FOOTBALL BUDGET JEOPARDIZES HOMEOWNERS TAX BILLS AS COUNCIL COUNTINUES TO DEFY MAYOR NAACP DISCRIMINATION SUIT TO BE HEARD ON MONDAY JAN 26 IN FEDERAL COURT IN NEWARK HCDO GIVES GEORGE WILSON S JOB TO JC COUNCIL PRESIDENT L. HARVEY SMITH COUNCIL VOTES FOR LAYOFFS, HIGHER TAXES, FLUSHES $8.5 MILLION IN IMMEDIATE SAVINGS IN THE NAME OF FISCAL RESPONSIBIITY GOLDMAN SACHS ENDORSES DEBT RESTRUCTURING-GAUGHAN, COUNCIL UNIMPRESSED A PRIMER ON ORGANIZED CRIME-HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION FOR DUMMIES CUNNINGHAM RALLIES BACKERS IN CALL FOR RACIST HCDO RENEGADES TO PUT A STOP TO DISENFRANCHISEMENT Urban Times News Jersey City Medical Center-What You Don t Know Can Kill You GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER- JERSEY CITY MEDICAL CENTER "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Can You Read ? IT S OFFICIAL-MANZO&CHIAPPONE IN 31ST KENNY S PAST MAY BE PROLOGUE The Congressman from Scarinci and Hollenbeck See Who's Listed as the Owner of the urbantimesnews.com JERSEY CITY BOND RATINGS AT RISK WITHOUT DEBT RESTRUCTURING INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP METER STILL RUNNING ON CITY FINANCES WITH NO ACTION FROM COUNCIL-COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE HIGHER PROPERTY TAX "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" DEFICIT TO GROW EACH YEAR WITHOUT RESTRUCTURING-BOND RATINGS DROP-INTEREST RATES INCREASING-COUNCIL CLUELESS- BOND WATCH CONTINUES Re: ORGANIZED CRIME KIDNAPS URBAN TIMES NEWS FOUNDATION OFFERS FREE HEALTH SERVICES TO COMMUNITY NAACP BLASTS HCDO S RACIST CAMPAIGN MAILERS JC Reporter HCIA article - Re: High Noon At City Hall MENENDEZ LOBBIES FOR TECH VENDOR-MANZO SHOWS FREEHOLDERS PITCH LETTER onlygameintown45.shtml MENENDEZ, BIN-LADEN, AND "TRAFFICKING IN PERSONS", Urban Times News, April 26 - BOOTH TELLS COUNCIL HE S OUT Re: BERNIE KENNY SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT AND UTN APOLOGIZES Urban Times News in Hoboken? Re: ORGANIZED CRIME takes over URBAN TIMES NEWS BILL BRAKER, NOT YOUR ORDINARY FREEHOLDER, Gloria Dulan-Wilson, URBAN TIMES NEWS Who s NOT Next-The Non Target Letter Interview with Reverend Edward Allen, Urban Times News CUNNINGHAM GETS REPUBLICAN SENATE CANDIDATE MENDIOLA S ENDORSEMENT Re: BOBBY JACKSON WANNA BUY SOME NURSING HOMES?, Steven Glazer, Urban Times News, May 17, - May 23 Welcome to the New Home of the Urban Times Re: ORGANIZED CRIME KIDNAPS URBAN TIMES NEWS THE URBAN TIMES NEWS Re: News 12 Video: Doria Trashes the Urban Times News HCDO Still Doesn't Get It! Re: Who Owns Politicsnj Website ? Re: Forked Tongue? Native Nations/Redwood Doria Sounds Afraid Degise Puts in HCIA Appearance-New Stonewall Policy Takes Effect Re: ORGANIZED CRIME takes over URBAN TIMES NEWS Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo Re: HARVEY DUCKS CHICKEN Re: CUNNINGHAM A RACIST, URBAN TIMES NEWS A RACIST PUBLICATION, IN FACT EVERYBODY WE KNOW IS A RACIST Re: Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies UrbanTimesNews.Com COUNTY CANDIDATES SHOW SHARP CONTRAST, STEVEN GLAZER, URBAN TIMES NEWS, May 4 - DeROSA NEW SCHOOL BOARD CHAIR, Steven Glazer, URBAN TIMES NEWS, 05/04/02 Rev. Edward A. Allen on his Candidacy, Urban TIMES News, April 12 18, 2002 HCDO LOSES GRIP ON JC REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY-EVIL EMPIRE STUMBLES AGAIN HUDSON DIXIECRATS IN ACTION-Jim Crow 03 . Ok I'll admit it I'm stupid and corrupt and work for the Urban Times News Urban Times, Vol 41, Issue 84 - Rev. Allen calls for attendance of DeGise Freeholders Galvanized Into Paralysis New York Times: MENENDEZ IS COMFORTABLE WITH DORIA IN THE SENATE onlygameintown21.shtml Re: Urban Times, Vol 41, Issue 84 - Rev. Allen calls for attendance of DeGise Urban Times News Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo Urban Times News The Urban Times News PAUL BYRNE CUNNINGHAM VINDICATED IN ELECTION FUND SUIT Re: ORGANIZED CRIME takes over URBAN TIMES NEWS Re: JCRA TO NARROW MEDICAL CENTER DEVELOPER CHOICE AT SPECIAL MEETING Re: Urban Times News in Hoboken? Re: WWW.NJLOWESTBID.COM HAS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP: IT S CHEAPER, IT S BETTER-AND NOBODY WANTS IT onlygameintown36.shtml Re: GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER, CONT A SCANDAL THAT KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND WORSE onlygameintown20.shtml Re: "NOTHING PERSONAL," EARL MORGAN, PAT O'MELIA, AND UNCLE HARVEY TEAM UP FOR HARD-HITTING INVESTIGATIVE EFFORTS Re: COUNTY PAYS UP $850K FOR MACK DADDY MENENDEZ PET VENDOR onlygameintown49.shtml Re: COUNTY PAYS UP $850K FOR MACK DADDY MENENDEZ PET VENDOR Re: NAACP BLASTS HCDO S RACIST CAMPAIGN MAILERS MARTINEZ' PETITION CHALLENGED BY MENENDEZ, Steven Glazer, Urban Times, vol 41, I HARTNETT GOES PROACTIVE, Steven Glazer, Urban Times, vol. 41, issue 87 HCDO Offic Manager Defects - Slams "Uncle Harvey" Sellout HCRDC Warriors Come Out To Play Re: This Hudson County Executive Thing, By GLORIA DULAN-WILSON, April 26 - May 3 Re: This Hudson County Executive Thing, By GLORIA DULAN-WILSON, April 26 - May 3 onlygameintown19.shtml Desperate HCDO will do anything CUNNINGHAM SEEKS FREEZE ON HCDO FUNDS onlygameintown16.shtml onlygameintown50.shtml UTN News: JERSEY CITY REFORM DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE REORGANIZES-CHALLENGES HCDO REORG Re: HARVEY DUCKS CHICKEN Harvey Smith, Mariano Vega Took Money From NY Developer Harvey Shapiro Menendez Accused of Campaign Funding Violations Baghdad on the Hudson - The Fall of the Tyrant CUNNINGHAM SUPPORTERS TO RALLY IN FRONT OF CONGRESSMAN ROBERT MENEDEZ'S JERSEY CITY OFFICE ON 911 BERGEN AVENUE AT 6PM TUES., JULY 29, 2003 Booth Cuts A Deal onlygameintown22.shtml UNCLE HARVEY'S FUGAZY FINANCE onlygameintown25.shtml Re: Glazer the Dirt Bag Menendez Should Have Stayed Home Re: Please explain.... HOUSING COMMISSIONERS SEEN BUT NOT EXACTLY HEARD AND OTHER MATTERS Cunningham And Former City Mayors File Redistricting Suit CUNNINGHAM, MANZO, CHIAPPONE, THE EVIL EMPIRE STUMBLES- UNCLE HARVEY BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY HCDO: $250K Strange Days Wunnerful! Wunnerful! Re: High Noon At City Hall Re: Stay Away From the Tower, Anthony Smith didn't sink Smith. How Glazeresque Of You strange interlude of the wink, wink SAVE US FROM GLENN CUNNINGHAM mailing NJN Video: HCDO Blasts Urban Times News A New Low Indeed Glenn is a racist he only loves green in his pocket no one elses GET NJ Can't Identify Anonymous Posters Who Owns Politicsnj Website ? STATEMENT OF CONGRESSMAN BOB MENENDEZ onlygameintown17.shtml HUDSON COUNTY CAMPAIGN BEGINS IN EARNEST WITH SMEAR CAMPAIGN Parole Gate --Way to go Sandy! Don't Stop onlygameintown33.shtml onlygameintown28.shtml Re: HUDSON COUNTY CAMPAIGN BEGINS IN EARNEST WITH SMEAR CAMPAIGN ONE STRIKE, YOU RE OUT! JC HOUSING TENANTS RECEIVE FOUL PLAY FROM BAD POLICY Mayor Cunningham Re: SUPREME COURT THROWS OUT HCDO EMERGENT APPEAL OF ELECTION CASE Re: THE BOND BOMB KEEPS TICKING-BUDGET DEFICIT ALTERNATIVES TAXES, LAYOFFS Re: The Congressman from Scarinci and Hollenbeck SIGNS OF THINGS TO COME? Sound Familiar? HARVEY DUCKS CHICKEN What else can I say ? Re: From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 Ming the evil leader has a few more tricks Re: BOND REFI-CLOCKS RUNNING, TEMPERS FLARING, RATES RISING A HOUSING AUTHORITY MEETING YOU CAN TALK ABOUT onlygameintown18.shtml Re: MENENDEZ LOBBIES FOR TECH VENDOR-MANZO SHOWS FREEHOLDERS PITCH LETTER Auditor's 2003 achievement awards Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Re: HUDSON DIXIECRATS MENENDEZ, DORIA, KENNY, SMITH TRY TO DISENFRANCHISE JC'S WARD F, CUNNINGHAM JC Council Bought Off with County Payroll Re: From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 Doria Backdoors Senate Seat Between the Lines You Show Me Yours, I'll Show You Mine Cucci: Glenn's Political Mentor Walsh Mugged Again, Vazques Pushed Off Ballot, By HCDO A Tale of Two Harveys -- Look What You Can Do With No Money Down Umcle Harvey Tries Again - Sort Of Re: Auditor's 2003 achievement awards Re: Auditor's 2003 achievement awards Mayor Cunningham In Senate Race Chiappone Announces Candidacy MARSHAL BACKS BAD GUYS OFF-RUN 'EM OUT OF TOWN NEXT Re: Mcgee Juggles Chainsaws On A Tightrope HCDO EXEC DEGISE RAISES COUNTY TAXES Mutiny On The County -- Steps That Is Bayonne Invades Greenville! Mcgee Juggles Chainsaws On A Tightrope onlygameintown35.shtml onlygameintown1.shtml onlygameintown32.shtml NAACP Press Statement Common knowledge Re: Welcome to the Message Board. Re: Welcome to the Message Board. Re: Welcome to the Message Board. Re: I Awoke Under My Bed in a Place Called Jersey City Re: I Awoke Under My Bed in a Place Called Jersey City Re: I Awoke Under My Bed in a Place Called Jersey City Re: I Awoke Under My Bed in a Place Called Jersey City Re: Desperate UTN will do anything Re: source the quote Congratulations Senator Smith Re: Mayor Cunningham I was very disappointed with this NJN report. Re: I was very disappointed with this NJN report. Cunningham's biggest failing: Dividing the city DeGise misuses taxpayer dollars Utn bils the Taxpayers Re: SG ....I am warning you...enough! Re: Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court Re: Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court Re: ?Hispanics Need a Voice on Supreme Court? Re: nj.com Has been Hacked Re: BOND REFI-CLOCKS RUNNING, TEMPERS FLARING, RATES RISING onlygameintown26.shtml Subject to Confirmation See when I change the names...it flows better and is much more accurate onlygameintown27.shtml onlygameintown29.shtml Re: Sound Familiar? High Noon At City Hall This Hudson County Executive Thing, By GLORIA DULAN-WILSON, April 26 - May 3, 20 Rivera Headquarters Opening Draws Broad Community Support Where does Bobby Jackson live? Uncle Harvey Leads Council "BLACKOUT" Again BENEFIT CONCERT TICKETS ON SALE NOW Re: Glazer the Dirt Bag Re: HCDO New Years Resolution HCDO New Years Resolution Redistricting plan: Home Free or Behind Enemy Lines CONCERT TICKETS Schundler Calls For Investigation Into McGreevey-Organized Crime Link Re: Uncle Harvey Rises Dramatically in Poles Re: Schundler Calls For Investigation Into McGreevey-Organized Crime Link Manzo Joins Cunningham And Chiappone In 31st Dist Race Re: Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District Council Flirts With Tax Increase Big Cat Gets Fatter- Scarinci Gets $92,000 JCRA Raise "Winds of Change" Herald Campaign Kickoff Re: Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District Re: Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District O'DEA BLASTS HCIA DISCLOSURE CUNNINGHAM CITES BOOTH FOR ETHICAL VIOLATIONS COUNCIL TO APPROVE BUDGET, BUT PROPERTY SALE RAISES NEW RISK TO TAXES, FIRE AND POLICE HIRES Uncle Harvey Rises Dramatically in Poles ONE HAND CLAPPING-LET'S HEAR IT FOR HARVEY! Re: Glazer the Dirt Bag Re: Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District Re: Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY! Re: HARVEY DUCKS CHICKEN NOW IT CAN BE REVEALED!!! WHO IS CHAKOTAY? ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO: I find the actions of the HCRDO appalling. Message from Lou Manzo: McGreevey + Current Legislators are no good for 31st District LOWES SCANDEL? >We are still waiting......................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Red Horse and Penny Stock Scandal - Re: Forked Tongue? Re: Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies Re: Canadian Terrorist Network Forked Tongue? Re: Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of January 26, 2004 Re: 16 Months and Counting Bond Banker Booth Gave Bribes, Former N.J. County Exec Testifies Re: From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 GET NJ Does Not Play Favorites! Re: Joan Eccleston? Revised post Glazer is in California Re: dont deleted! Re: WWW.NJLOWESTBID.COM HAS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP: IT S CHEAPER, IT S BETTER-AND NOBODY WANTS IT Our hero strikes again ? Re: MAYOR MENENDEZ AIDS TERRORISTS AND MURDERER- KENNY, JR. PLEADS IGNORANCE, SAYS HE DIDN T KNOW onlygameintown42.shtml Re: MAYOR MENENDEZ AIDS TERRORISTS AND MURDERER- KENNY, JR. PLEADS IGNORANCE, SAYS HE DIDN T KNOW onlygameintown23.shtml Re: NAACP BLASTS HCDO S RACIST CAMPAIGN MAILERS onlygameintown15.shtml onlygameintown3.shtml Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Re: ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO: I find the actions of the HCRDO appalling. onlygameintown30.shtml onlygameintown24.shtml onlygameintown34.shtml Fiscal Responsibility .. Throw da UTN bums out !! Cunnigham does God's work Re: JERSEY CITY BOND RATINGS AT RISK WITHOUT DEBT RESTRUCTURING Re: ELECTION CHALLENGE CASE TOSSED-EVIL EMPIRE STUMBLES BIG TIME Re: DEFICIT TO GROW EACH YEAR WITHOUT RESTRUCTURING-BOND RATINGS DROP-INTEREST RATES INCREASING-COUNCIL CLUELESS- BOND WATCH CONTINUES Charts to Illustrate NAACP Complaint Down with MENEDEZ'S Corruption Power to the People The dead heros of days gone by cry for justice onlygameintown48.shtml Re: Strange Days Re: SUPREME COURT THROWS OUT HCDO EMERGENT APPEAL OF ELECTION CASE Re: Strange Days Re: GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER, CONT A SCANDAL THAT KEEPS GETTING BIGGER AND WORSE Cunningham Endorsed By Republican Candidate in 31st Senate Race onlygameintown37.shtml Re: CUNNINGHAM SUPPORTERS TO RALLY IN FRONT OF CONGRESSMAN ROBERT MENEDEZ'S JERSEY CITY OFFICE ON 911 BERGEN AVENUE AT 6PM TUES., JULY 29, 2003 onlygameintown31.shtml onlygameintown7.shtml Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Re: CUNNINGHAM SUPPORTERS TO RALLY IN FRONT OF CONGRESSMAN ROBERT MENEDEZ'S JERSEY CITY OFFICE ON 911 BERGEN AVENUE AT 6PM TUES., JULY 29, 2003 Did the Council vote on this yet ? Re: Jersey City Medical Center-What You Don t Know Can Kill You Hudson County's Best POOR TONY ! Re: ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO: I find the actions of the HCRDO appalling. STEEL CAGE DEATHMATCH I wonder if Glazer ... Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Like Father Like Son Far Out Man !!!! Council says NO ? Hmmmm. The Corrupt Kennys = Like Father - Like Son Great Post !! Very Informative. Re: A PRIMER ON ORGANIZED CRIME-HUDSON COUNTY DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATION FOR DUMMIES Re: INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Re: NAACP DISCRIMINATION SUIT WINS STATEWIDE JOKE AWARD Your way out of line Shaking in his boots. Stevie,stevie,stevie...... Simple Human Dignity has been trampled down by Menedez Re: GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER- JERSEY CITY MEDICAL CENTER UTN should look in the mirror Re: WWW.NJLOWESTBID.COM HAS A BETTER MOUSE TRAP: IT S CHEAPER, IT S BETTER-AND NOBODY WANTS IT Re: Jersey City Medical Center-What You Don t Know Can Kill You Re: Doria Backdoors Senate Seat ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ex-Ray posted Message 3988 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 08:16:28 Subject: UTN Boys &health benefits I see all the UTN boys are still on the payrolls & boards.I guess their votes are more important then good government.The more things change, the more they remain the same. poor Jersey City taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 3989 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 09:17:48 Subject: Re: Will Ron Manzo's Plea of Guilty Hurt Lou Manzo? No matter what a friend or relative does, voters won't hold it against a candidate unless there's overwhelming proof of direct involvement. An attempt by an opponent to poison the well will most likely backfire. Of course, if Lou Manzo was innocently expecting/hoping for his brother's help, that resource is gone. : to be a fool is not to be a thief. when people use inside information in trading securities they profit from other's ignorance and ultimately their loosses. colorful is not the same as corrupt. : : Guilt by association is not a popular activity. : : As both Presidents Carter and Clinton prove, having a "colorful" sibling isn't a drawback. And that certainly goes at least double here in Hudson County. : : One thing is important, though. On the part of the candidate, there must be no hint of involvement in the suspect activity. : : The chance of success for a Manzo campaign remains undiminished. Of course, what those odds are is open to interpretation -- and finally testing by contest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 3990 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 09:20:54 Subject: $5,000 to paint police Directors Car All Gold Tell me this is not true, Please.Is Jersey city going off the deep end.We need a new Mayor Election real quick.Before we all go broke. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val ain't a Gal posted Message 3991 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 10:23:57 Subject: Re: $5,000 to paint police Directors Car All Gold : Tell me this is not true, Please.Is Jersey city going off the deep end.We need a new Mayor Election real quick.Before we all go broke. ::::And the pot is calling the cettle black? You fed off the public teat 4 years and now you have thebrass ones to sit in judgment of others? ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseMia posted Message 3992 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 10:26:51 Subject: Liberal is as liberal Gets I am part of the problem.I wear blinders when it comes to 9-11 and the Democratic Party.My oun agenda is more important then the welfare of my Country. Hate has blinded me you see. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Ix-Nay posted Message 3993 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 10:30:00 Subject: Re: UTN Boys &health benefits : I see all the UTN boys are still on the payrolls & boards while I sit hear building sandcastles, drooling and wishing my good friends Tom De Gise and Bill Gughan would give me a nice cushy noshow job.I guess their votes are more important then mine even though I think i'm more important then good government.The more things change, the more they remain the same and I aint part of it. poor me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseMiaTom posted Message 3994 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 10:31:31 Subject: Re: Liberal is as liberal Gets : I am part of the problem.I wear blinders when it comes to 9-11 and the Democratic Party.My oun agenda is more important then the welfare of my Country. Greed has blinded me you see. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 3995 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 11:07:37 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 3996 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 11:10:41 Subject: We get what we deserve in Jersey City If for just once we voted for Honest Government with no strings attached. Would not this be a better city to bring up our children?I am afraid we have one last chance too do the right thing in November.Lets hope we all vote for a person with the brains and moral character to do right by all of us. God bless Jersey City in the mean time.Has anybody seen my Gold Car by any chance? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fact 2 posted Message 3997 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 13:00:28 Subject: Inside County lines GET NJ - Hudson County Politics Message Board Re: The facts please. "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo What a Crook of Doo-Doo Re: New York Times: For Joseph Doria, A Rare Election. He's Not Running. New York Times: For Joseph Doria, A Rare Election. He's Not Running. Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo Re: What a Crook of Doo-Doo Fond Memories, funny stories and many tearful farewells Janiszewski Bribery Plea Casts a Wide Net "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" onlygameintown18.shtml Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Re: From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP onlygameintown32.shtml Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Jersey City Reporter, 03/31/02 onlygameintown17.shtml Re: From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 Re: From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Re: INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP Re: From Inside County Lines edition of August 30 to September 5 No deal; no way! Al Sullivan, Jersey City Reporter, May 26, 2002 "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" onlygameintown26.shtml Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" Re: "INSIDE COUNTY LINES-YOU CAN T MAKE THIS STUFF UP" onlygameintown16.shtml CUNNINGHAM A RACIST, URBAN TIMES NEWS A RACIST PUBLICATION, IN FACT EVERYBODY WE KNOW IS A RACIST onlygameintown27.shtml Hudson County's Best onlygameintown22.shtml Re: Who will replace Cunningham as mayor? Al Sullivan, Jersey City Reporter, 05/ Who s NOT Next-The Non Target Letter Uncle Harvey Rises Dramatically in Poles onlygameintown20.shtml Re: Uncle Harvey Rises Dramatically in Poles The Congressman from Scarinci and Hollenbeck onlygameintown28.shtml onlygameintown49.shtml NEWS FLASH Mayor Cunningham onlygameintown9.shtml ***************** End Of Article ****************** plain label posted Message 3998 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 14:08:06 Subject: Conversation with Arango It is funny how Arango claim to be helping Hispanics to be represented on the republican national convention, yet from New Jersey there are only 4 Hispanics appointed as delegates to the convention from a total of 56, from these 4, one from Hudson County. Arango only appointed one person of Hispanic decent of six from Hudson County. The democrats appointed 25 to the convention. Arango, your party does not want Hispanics! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 3999 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 17:22:35 Subject: Re: We get what we don't deserve in Jersey City : We r stuck withyou. you left Jersey City years ago only to return to feed off the public teat and bleed the city dry.you are a drooling old fool. tom Degise thinks you are an idiot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** alien leader posted Message 4000 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 17:22:58 Subject: The purpose of Sanda & Eugene Drayton this is the purpose of Sanda Cunningham, Eugene Drayton, Joe Cardwell and Bobey Jackson We expect them to work toward the elimination of human rights My friends, no matter how rough the road may be, we can and we will, never, never surrender to what is right. I deserve respect for the things I did not do People are not homeless if they're sleeping in the streets of their own hometowns. If you believe in this Vote Sanaa Cunningham for mayor ***************** End Of Article ****************** funny posted Message 4001 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 17:27:57 Subject: Re: The purpose of Sanda & Eugene Drayton hahahaha : this is the purpose of Sanda Cunningham, Eugene Drayton, Joe Cardwell and Bobey Jackson : We expect them to work toward the elimination of human rights : My friends, no matter how rough the road may be, we can and we will, never, never surrender to what is right. : I deserve respect for the things I did not do : People are not homeless if they're sleeping in the streets of their own hometowns. : If you believe in this Vote Sanaa Cunningham for mayor ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gold Police Car posted Message 4002 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 17:49:51 Subject: Whats $5,000? Its worth it to stand out Jersey City cant get much lower.We have no where go but up.Who wants to bet? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Is this another black thing? posted Message 4003 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 18:18:05 Subject: Re: "Ain't no machine around can beat a man!" : John Henry wins! But at what cost? : . . . : 'John Henry, you going to have a heavy burden and you gonna have to tote it like a man son, like a man.' Next morning early, a thousand men are gathered in the valley at the foot of the mountain come to see a race against a man and a machine. The machine was over there and three men were tending to it, and John Henry was over here rubbing his hand over the shaft of his hammer and Willy Roy was counting out the drills. BAM! A pistol shot ran out and John Henry began slamming his hammer against the drill that Willy Roy was holding and the machine went jugga, jugga, jugga, jugga...bang! bang!... jugga, jugga..and they were even for a long time, but then the dust began to rise up and the dust came down and settled on John Henry. It began to mingle with the sweat that was pouring off of him. And it came down and got in the corners of his eyes and he tried to blink it away but it kept coming back. : And every time he would do that he was losing ground. The machine was getting ahead, so he picked up his thirty-five hammer and started slamming that bug again, wang! wang! But the dust was getting in his eyes and he couldn't see and he had to drop it and clear his eyes. And the machine was way ahead and the sun was almost right over head, when the contest would end. So Johnny dropped the thirty-five pound hammer and picked up two forty-five hammers and he went wang!wang!wang!wang! Bang! The pistol shot sounded the end of the contest. The judges came out and they drove long poles down into those holes. The hole made by the machine, the hole made by John Henry. : And they told the results to captain Tommy. Captain Tommy said, 'I'll be, mmm mmm mmm. Listen here folks. John Henry and the machine. The machine made eleven feet, four inches, the men shoulder's sagged. John Henry made fourteen feet, seven inches. The men whooped and hollered and Captain Tommy went over to congratulate John Henry. But John Henry didn't see his outstretched hand. John Henry fell over in the dust. John Henry had hammered on the mountain, and his hammer was strike and fire but he drove so hard that he broke his poor heart, that he laid down his hammer and he died." : . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** J.P.Sartre posted Message 4004 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 19:16:56 Subject: Deep, Really Friggin Deep : John Henry wins! But at what cost? : . . . : 'John Henry, you going to have a heavy burden and you gonna have to tote it like a man son, like a man.' Next morning early, a thousand men are gathered in the valley at the foot of the mountain come to see a race against a man and a machine. The machine was over there and three men were tending to it, and John Henry was over here rubbing his hand over the shaft of his hammer and Willy Roy was counting out the drills. BAM! A pistol shot ran out and John Henry began slamming his hammer against the drill that Willy Roy was holding and the machine went jugga, jugga, jugga, jugga...bang! bang!... jugga, jugga..and they were even for a long time, but then the dust began to rise up and the dust came down and settled on John Henry. It began to mingle with the sweat that was pouring off of him. And it came down and got in the corners of his eyes and he tried to blink it away but it kept coming back. : And every time he would do that he was losing ground. The machine was getting ahead, so he picked up his thirty-five hammer and started slamming that bug again, wang! wang! But the dust was getting in his eyes and he couldn't see and he had to drop it and clear his eyes. And the machine was way ahead and the sun was almost right over head, when the contest would end. So Johnny dropped the thirty-five pound hammer and picked up two forty-five hammers and he went wang!wang!wang!wang! Bang! The pistol shot sounded the end of the contest. The judges came out and they drove long poles down into those holes. The hole made by the machine, the hole made by John Henry. : And they told the results to captain Tommy. Captain Tommy said, 'I'll be, mmm mmm mmm. Listen here folks. John Henry and the machine. The machine made eleven feet, four inches, the men shoulder's sagged. John Henry made fourteen feet, seven inches. The men whooped and hollered and Captain Tommy went over to congratulate John Henry. But John Henry didn't see his outstretched hand. John Henry fell over in the dust. John Henry had hammered on the mountain, and his hammer was strike and fire but he drove so hard that he broke his poor heart, that he laid down his hammer and he died." : . . . Boy, I wish I had thought of this. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ima Golden Goose - NOT! posted Message 4005 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 20:15:44 Subject: Re: Whats $5,000? Its worth it to stand out : Jersey City cant get much lower than TomG.We have no where go but up.Who wants to bet? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rock bottom ain't no where in sight posted Message 4006 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 20:19:38 Subject: Re: Whats $5,000? Its worth it to stand out : Jersey City cant get much lower.We have no where go but up.Who wants to bet? Every time I think that Jersey City has hit a new low, someone seems to find lower levels to sink us to. I don't think that we will find rock bottom until we come up in China. You'd think that with the city being on unsure financial footing, someone would have told him that if he didn't like the color then use his personal car. Gold cars...sheesh! Why do they need city owned vehicles anyway...Lord knows they make enough money, can't they use their own cars? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sigmund Freud posted Message 4007 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 21:44:30 Subject: Vewy Intewesting. You have way to much time on your hands Anthony. ***************** End Of Article ****************** But he's stupid posted Message 4008 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2004 at 22:10:03 Subject: Re: Vewy Intewesting. : You have way to much time on your hands Anthony. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gold is the color posted Message 4009 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 07:30:38 Subject: Since Jersey City is the number One Corrupt City The rest of the Cities in the State are Following the Fad. All Directors now want their Cars Painted Gold in honor of Jersey City.Its good to be corrupt.Remember when you vote in November.'THE GOLD CAr". What a badge of honor for Jersey City Taxpayers.Only in Jersey City could this happen. ***************** End Of Article ****************** onduty posted Message 4010 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 10:33:03 Subject: Re: Whats $5,000? Its worth it to stand out : : Jersey City cant get much lower than TomG.We have no where go but up.Who wants to bet? the gold car idea comes from the cunningham's star. it's joe cardwell, sandra cunningham and eugene drayton. to embarass the taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RICO RUNS DEEP posted Message 4011 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 10:33:07 Subject: You Know Bernie Kenny Joe Barry's Personal Lawyer YOU KNOW - THE SENATOR / HCDO DEMOCRATIC LEADER BERNIE KENNY WHO ALREADY IS WORKING IN A SOUP KITCHEN - TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY SERVICE !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I want a Gold car posted Message 4012 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 10:33:38 Subject: Who do i have to see? since i am a Taxpayer in Jersey City,who do i have to see at the DPW in order to get my car painted Gold?Can i also get a Ward C Civic Gofer Club Logo on the side.Its good to live in Jersey City And pay High taxes for these kind of perks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Short Guys Die Too posted Message 4013 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 10:34:51 Subject: Kennelly Your Day will Come : Doria did nothing wrong. You guys got a bad break. Now live with it ... and stop the whining. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The real deal posted Message 4014 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 10:42:40 Subject: Re: Whats $5,000? Its worth it to stand out No it's not....it's Jefferson using bad judgement and Betty Oultlaw covering for him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 4015 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 10:50:48 Subject: Street name after the "Gold Car" Can we get the council to name a Street After the "Gold Car"?I am sure this car has made New Jersey famous everywhere.Dont worry about the $5,000 cost. Its a drop in the bucket compared to the "Bad Land Deals" and the refinanceing of bonds that Jersey City almost got stuck with..Jersey City at its best. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4016 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 11:59:24 Subject: One more reason for Tom Gaynor Too be Mayor This City is very sick right now.Taxpayers are running out of money.Streets need a good cleaning.Crime is out of control.Corruption is a way of life.And our claim to fame is a "Gold Car".Tell me i am dreaming and that i will wake up soon from this nightmare. ***************** End Of Article ****************** duty free posted Message 4017 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 12:07:37 Subject: Re: Who do i have to see? well see joe cardwell, eugene drayton or sandra cunningham for a gold paint on your car. there are plotting to bankrupty this city. thanks taxpayers for this mess, we should learn that the cunningham factor was the evil one after all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** icu posted Message 4018 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 20:08:49 Subject: tom gaynor tom gaynor is too short to be mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** icu posted Message 4019 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 20:46:31 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor stole the Trees : That is why he moved to Avon -By-The-Sea.In order to enjoy them.Thanks . The trees were stolen today from Tom Gaynor's backyard today and will be milled for the foundation of Hague St. Plank Road since the street formerly known as Hague is unpaved between the Boulevard and Nelson Avenue. Any leftovers will be used for Betty Outlaw's fireplace. Special to B.O.----Hague St. is in the Heights. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Ix-Nay posted Message 4020 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 21:26:45 Subject: Re: One more reason for Tom Gaynor Not Too be Mayor : This City is very sick right now.Taxpayers are running out of money.Streets need a good cleaning.Crime is out of control.Corruption is a way of life.And our claim to fame is a "Gold Car".Tell me i am dreaming and that i will wake up soon from this nightmare. ::The onlysick thing on this board is youTom. U are the night mare. A syncophant without an icecubes chance in hell of gettingback the county job. So you took themoney you bilked the good people of the town of, bought a house down the shore, play in the sand all day with your weenie and post stupid messages. Geta life loser. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4021 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 21:28:02 Subject: Re: Street name after the "Gold Car" : Can we get the council to name a Street After the "Gold Car"?I am sure this car has made New Jersey famous everywhere.Dont worry about the $5,000 cost. Its a drop in the bucket compared to the "Bad Land Deals" and the refinanceing of bonds that Jersey City almost got stuck with..Jersey City at its best. ::TomGaynor needs to get a life. What a pathetic loser! ***************** End Of Article ****************** TomGaynor - Loser Du Jour posted Message 4022 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 20, 2004 at 21:33:18 Subject: Re: Who do i have to see? : since i am a Taxpayer in Jersey City,who do i have to see at the DPW in order to get my car painted Gold?Can i also get a Ward C Civic Gofer Club Logo on the side.Its good to live in Jersey City And pay High taxes for these kind of perks. ::Ward C Civic Gofer Club don't want LOSERS like you TomGaynor. You are not a taxpayer in this town and can't show your toothless face in this town because we now what you are. LOSER! tELL U what. Why dont you talk to your County friends, maybe they will get you the gold caralong with your countyjob. U wont have far to go to talk to them since they all live down the shore. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NewHope posted Message 4023 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 09:37:16 Subject: Last Chance for Jersey City-A Mayor of subtance It is now up to you voters.Either you continue being scamed or you vote for clean, honest government.Vote for the most qualified not the party label.The ball is now in your court.You get what you deserve and jersey City deserves the Best. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hopeless posted Message 4024 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 10:36:00 Subject: Re: Last Chance for Jersey City-A Mayor of subtance : It is now up to you voters.Either you continue being scamed or you vote for clean, honest government.Vote for the most qualified not the party label.The ball is now in your court.You get what you deserve and jersey City deserves the Best. :: Yeah, Yeah Tom. U were such an upstanding asset that you bilked the city and moved out. Now u sit there , build sandcastles all day and post stupid meeningless things. Back to your padded cell fool. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 4025 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 14:58:07 Subject: Jimmy King Civic Association Receives Compensation for Billboard Defacing Urban Times News June 18, 2004 - June 24, 2004 Call 201-451-4131 to have the Urban Times News delivered to a commercial business. Jersey City, NJ, June 7, 2004 - James King, the Standard Bearer of the Jimmy King Civic Association announced today that the Association has settled its suit against Jason Slocum, the Hudson County Democratic Organization District County Committeeman in Ward C, for defacing the Association's billboard located on Route 139 (Upper Level) and Summit Avenue on March 24, 2004. "I am pleased that this case has finally been settled and our Civic Association is being reimbursed for the cost of replacing the sign on the billboard," King said. " It was a very offensive act and the young man who defaced the billboard has been appropriately reprimanded." The billboard's message and a photograph of King and the late Mayor Glenn Cunningham were covered over with black paint by Slocum. "Fortunately for us, a member of the Civic Association was driving by atthe time and saw Slocum committing this act of vandalism," King said. According to King, the Civic Association member called out to Slocum who jumped from the platform supporting the billboard and ran. "Our member gave chase and caught Slocum. He called the Jersey City Police Department who arriveq on the scene and placed Slocum under arrest," King said. The original criminal charges were reduced to a lesser count by the Hudson County Prosecutor's, allowing Slocum to avoid jail time. At a later court appearance, Slocum was ordered to pay restitution of an undetermined amount to the Jimmy King Civic Association. "All of our members are satisfied that this nasty situation has been adjudicated and the culprit has been adequately dealt with by the Court," King said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Welcome to the New home of the Urban Times News.... posted Message 4026 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 15:09:30 Subject: Re: Jimmy King Civic Association Receives Compensation for Billboard Defacing Can't afford the newsprint bill so they post direct to the web now. Where did all the advertisers go? : Urban Times News : June 18, 2004 - June 24, 2004 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get Real posted Message 4027 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 15:23:05 Subject: Tom Gaynor's Incompetence There are so many reasons Tom Gaynor not only shouldn't be Mayor of Jersey City, but should be banned from the entire political process here. 1) He's an idiot 2) He and his wife have bilked or stolen untold hundreds of thousands of dollars from taxpayers. 3) He doesn't live here. 4) He's incompetent. 5) He has no base of support. 6) He has no adequate governmental experience. 7) He probably can't even balance his own check book, much less a municipal budget in the hundreds of millions. 8) He supported Schundler and all the fools around him for 9 years while Bret drove us over the fiscal abyss. 9) He doesn't have the guts needed to stand up to the other Hudson politicians, and those in Trenton who would once again like to marginalize our city. 10) Did I mention he's an idiot? And the list goes on.... feel free to add your personal observastions. But in the end, no matter what Gaynor posts on this board, he has no support...he has no base....he has no talent...he has no business even commenting on politics here, much less attempting to promote himself as a successor to Harvey Smith (who we all know is history in November). ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 4028 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 15:47:47 Subject: Just say the word Tom Gaynor-We will be there A Mayor who will put Jersey City first.Will not take orders from any so called Political leader.A days work for a days pay.Taxpayers will get their monies worth with ,tom.each year you will get a day at the beach with some super sun.Clean streets will be a way of life.A cop on the beat who you will know and see.Jersey City. the way it used to be. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bankrupt City In Need of Repair Merged into Hudson County posted Message 4029 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 20:09:00 Subject: Glenn ran the city into the ground for his own benefit So when is the news going to break that Glenn mis-managed and took what was not his to take. Strange things are going to happen the Police will be layed off along with the Firemen. Strange things like taxes will need to be increased 400% to cover the short fall. Insurance rates for property will skyrocket due to the failure of critical services. Jersey City will be un-incorporated and merged into Hudson County the damage has been done and it is too late to fix at this late hour ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4030 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 20:24:50 Subject: Is there ... some reason for all these moronic posts ??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4031 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 20:28:08 Subject: Perhaps ... he didn't get enough oxygen to his brain when he was having his heart surgery. Killed off the few brain cells he had left. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val ain't a Gal posted Message 4032 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 20:28:19 Subject: Re: Just say the word Tom Gaynor-We will be there :with A Mayor who will put a butterfly net over you first.Will not use any Raid so our Political leaders wont hurt you.A days work for a days pay.Taxpayers will get their monies worth with ,tom.each year you will get a day at the beach with some super sun. Sandcastles and meds. Ahhhhh! the good life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4033 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 20:31:25 Subject: I like the ... defaced billboard better. It's sort of like abstract expressionism, Jersey City style. Wonder how long that billboard will stay up now that Cunningham has croaked ? Probably until King cuts his deal with the HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4034 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 20:34:16 Subject: That must be why ... you live at the shore. You love Jersey City soooo much !!! Yeah right !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Short Man Mad At World posted Message 4035 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 23:06:23 Subject: Kennelly 's Tasteless Remarks Croaked ? - Kennelly your day will come. : Wonder how long that billboard will stay up now that Cunningham has croaked ? Probably until King cuts his deal with the HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I doubt that was the real Chakotay! posted Message 4036 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 21, 2004 at 23:15:46 Subject: Re: Kennelly 's Tasteless Remarks : : Croaked ? - Kennelly your day will come. : : : Wonder how long that billboard will stay up now that Cunningham has croaked ? Probably until King cuts his deal with the HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4037 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 07:23:11 Subject: A tale of two Cities It was the best of times"THE PAST".It was the worse of times"The Present".Time to start over.Taxpayers its your call.Save Jersey City now.or just move out and give it to the Conmen And their scams and corruption.The choice is clear and your vote is stong."USE IT WISELY". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4038 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 07:37:54 Subject: Well said -Tom Gaynor Its now or never for good clean government in Jersey City.Taxpayers ,just once,do the right thing.Vote for honest Government.You will love the results. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 4039 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 08:02:27 Subject: Independent Stay Urban Times News June 18, 2004 - June 24, 2004 Call 201-451-4131 to have the Urban Times News delivered to a commercial business. By Arnold W. Stovell In the midst of attention appropriately focused on the fallout from the honorable Glenn D. Cunningham's death, the struggle of the Reverend. Edward Allen to gain inclusion on the November ballot continues. The Reverend Allen, once a candidate for the Congressional seat in the 10th voting district under the Reform Democratic ticket, was successfully removed from the primary ballot by the Menendez political machine. Accepting the consequences of their scrutiny, the Reverend continued his campaign, following election procedures diligently, only to have his application forestalled by election officials who now claim his independent candidacy is prohibited by his registration as a Democrat. Previously, after controversy over his primary applications were explained by officials, the Reverend was assured by Board of Election representatives that his submission as a candidate on the Independent ticket was a viable alternative. His original application was denied due to misunderstandings about where registration officers should live. With these petitions the Reverend addressed those issues and more, fully prepared to participate in the electoral process. "In April they threw out my petitions and now they have denied my new ones. Our petitions were rebuffed with Board of Election officials already having a prepared legal challenge. Menendez placed the Board of Elections director in office. He is still using fascist tactics to work below the radar screen. They may dismiss the low turnout in the primaries, but people of all nationalities do not appreciate the kind of person he is. He is a person obsessed with power. He wants to rise to higher political position and he is eyeing the seat of Senator Charles Lautenberg. But he refuses to recognize that without the districts of Jersey City and Newark, he cannot win the Lautenberg seat. His corrupt hold on the Hudson County Democratic organization and his use of scare tactics will not be rewarded by the people of the 10th congressional district. People see that he is a dangerous man who will do whatever it takes to get what he wants." The Reverend does not seem deterred by this setback but in fact more resolute and determined than ever. "What will we do next? We will seek a reversal of this decision in State Supreme Court. While Menendez operates like Castro, ensuring an election where no competition is the best competition, we will show him why we say no to Castro and no to Menendez. This is not communist Cuba, this is America. There will be competition. We will investigate further and our lawyers will seek inclusion in the November elections based on the allowable and lawful remedies." At press time, Reverend Allen forces were still conferring as to the legitimacy of the Board of Elections claims, though continued legal action is forseen. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4040 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 09:00:30 Subject: Re: A tale of two Cities : It was the best of times"THE PAST" where I will continue to live because I havent aworking braincell in my head.It was the worse of times"The Present"because when no one is watching I post meaningless garbage here.Time to start over.Taxpayers its your call.Save Jersey City now from me.or just move out like I did after bilking everyone and give it to the Conmen (who is no longer here but I dont care cause ima idiot) And their scams and corruption (if i didnt do it , itsa scam and corrupt).The choice is clear but a swat team with butterfly nets wont catch me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Ix-Nay posted Message 4041 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 09:08:17 Subject: Re: Well said -Tom Gaynor : Too bad im Tom Gaynor in disguise and i am posting kudos to myself. Iam such an idiot. i forget that I am Dr. X-Ray, Nurse Betsy and Val. i do this because I am the only one who thinks I post great stuff. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Laidlaw posted Message 4042 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 09:18:51 Subject: Carmine Venezia at the Parking Authority Did Carmine Venezia get to install any of his hot screensavers on the Parking Authority hard drives? Why is Tom Corcoran suddenly so silent on the subject of Carmine Venezia? Up until May 25th Tom Corcoran was a regular motor mouth on the topic of Carmine Venezia. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward C gofer Jackets posted Message 4043 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 09:51:29 Subject: Parking Authority locked Closet Are they still be sold out of the paring authorityand are they still being stored there,under lock and key? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Charles Lautenberg (sic) posted Message 4044 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 09:55:42 Subject: Allen is a laughing stock. The UTN can't even get Senator FRANK Lautenberg's name right. Allen can run till the cows come home and he'll never win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4045 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 09:59:58 Subject: Which day ? I have a very busy schedule. Please get back to me ASAP. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4046 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 10:02:29 Subject: Sorry ! It was little ole me. Being a godless evil liberal, sometimes the devil just gets the best of me. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why posted Message 4047 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 10:15:11 Subject: Re: Parking Authority locked Closet : Are they still be sold out of the paring authorityand are they still being stored there,under lock and key? :::dont worry. we still have yours, with your name on it. we are waiting for you to stop playing in the sand and pick it up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4048 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 10:36:40 Subject: Re: Allen is a laughing stock. : The UTN can't even get Senator FRANK Lautenberg's name right. Allen can run till the cows come home and he'll never win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You tip my canoe and I'll tip yours too posted Message 4049 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 12:03:03 Subject: The characters Looking over the constant barrage of mindless buffoonery exhibited at this blog by one Tom Gaynor has put me in a reflective mood. The world is full of fools who can hunt and peck on a computer keyboard, so there is no surprise there. The shock and awe lies in the fact that Bret Schundler took the Gaynors seriously. Nancy Gaynor was on the Council for the Journal Square ward. Her son was awarded a plum job. Even after managing to totally alienate the voters and get the boot in 97, Schundler kept Gaynor on in a fifth wheel office -- at great expense to the taxpayers and no benefit derived therefrom. How could this tag team of clowns manage to fool Schundler into thinking that they were some sort of political gold when all objective touchstones showed exactly the opposite? And it don't stop at the Gaynors. There’s a whole zoo of these baboons in Jersey City. The next in line for consideration is the Macchis. The Macchis was in with Dr. Paul T. Jordan and was involved in the biggest political implosion that this city has ever seen, Paul Jordan's crash and burn. After that you'd think that all would know that the Macchis are political toxic waste. Armed only with silly smiles, stupid jokes and a storefront from which to hand out free hotdogs to the truly useless, the Macchis have got themselves cherished even after proving time and again that they don't sway a single vote. Catherine Macchi p1ssed off the voters of B as bad as Nancy Gaynor and got the same heaveho. Schundler awards Catherine Macchi just the same for no good purpose to himself or to the paying public. ANd Bill Macchi is the biggest joke, after losing lock stock and barrell to Bobbj J. One would assume that brain trust Schundler would sever all ties to Macchis. No Schundler awards Bill Macchis clown act with big jobs. The son gets a job too at Athletics like this is a Jersey City royal family to be cherished and pampered. Paul Jordan was some set of work too. Easing in on the slip of the bannana peal of JVK, Dr. Jordan thought himself as a pretty hot property. Couldn't even manage to remember the last name of Ted Kennedy at a Journal Square rally calling him Kenny by mistake, a real good way to work yourself into the good graces at a national level. And then there was Neil Sheridan, Nancy Gaynor's boss at the missing in action office. Neil Sheridan was working from his apartment for most of the 97 on Schundler term. Working from hisapartment was the nice way of saying getting over a hangover. The yuppie puppie loses the battleship for Jersey City and walks the first and last 100 yards of the St Patricks day parade. Does this get a swift rap on the knuckles from above, no the response is the elevation to Deputy Mayor. And of coarse there was Timothy tip toe through the tulips Sheridan, the Schundler's babysitter. Awarded the important and politcally sensitive mayors action bureau. He was lucky to have Maureen Corcoran there to hold up his end. And then there was Lonnie Sobel. He was supposed to put Timothy Sheridan in the parking authority for Schundler but saw the light and did Glenn's bidding. Lonnie wanders the globe looking for floosies in every nook and cranny yet remains on the parking authorty. Here's a question what has the guy got going for him. Schundler thought him useful. Glenn owed him, I guess. Lonnies partner John is up the ladder at the PA. And then there's that fence straddling surivor Maggie Doyle. Never controlled a single vote. In my bourbon travelling days I'd wake up and find that I had enjoyed the company of a local resident and it would be it was great here's cab fare home. But Maggie Doyle goes from administration to administration like the empress of china. And that brings to mind Bobby Js cherished scrapbook that was taken from Paul Byrne. When that’s in the public domain all hell will surely break lose. There was Fargo. Was supposed to back Brian Oreilly stop the Odea juggernaut but Nick either slipped up or saw the light. God only knows what Fargo brought to 280 Grove but Schundler thought he was worth 100 grand a year. As Schundler is getting ready to go for gov, Nick takes the buyout. Schundler actually was going to rehire Fargo until the state of NJ put the kibosh on the fast one. This one is such a curveball there’s got to be more than meets the eye. They seem to work often as husband and wife teams. In addition to the already reviewed Gaynors and Macchis, there also was the Accursos. Mary worked like a bee and the credit has got to be given to her. Though the oldtimers will cringe at my talking ill of the dead, truth to be told Richie went beyond useless to the point of ridiculous. All day he would stare at the wall or chat on the phone. Him and Maggie weren’t too bad at selling tickets, but not enough to receive absolution in my book. Also still hanging in there are the Andersons. Wayne is in a category all by his lonesome self, for he is an import. I thought that after the sorry debacle of the jazz man going poof, Wayne would be on the road again. No, in the best tradtion of big business, Bret gives Wayne a promotion to Siberia. His wife is carrying on the tradition in a big way. Runs for office and don’t fill a thimble with votes. Are we talking about excommunication here, No Glenn shows he’s got a wrong a set of instincts as Bret and rewards the bunch. Wayne gets brought back into the fray to clean up Journal Square and you can easily check what a bonny job he has done. But don’t head to the fountain unless you is extraordinarily broadminded – if you get my dirft. I don’t know how she does it by Mrs. Anderson is hard at work selling both to here and to 280 Grove. Change to administration be damned there. I was in Newark and they is laughing themselves silly over the disgraceful clutter of bad signage, as well they should given the good job that Newark accomplished in that regards. As Newark is quick to point out, doesn’t anybody in Jersey City know that red is only to be used in a sign for an emergency facility and that is generally a hospital. Even retired I still don’t need glasses and certainly not of the rosy color. The point isn’t that the jabberers are jabberers but that they are useless. They don’t buy votes they don’t bring in revenue. We’ve got our own sideshow of freaks, but they all help to pull the wagon. If you want to enjoy local flavor at a hot dog stand, don’t tour the sabrett factory. And just to show that I don’t have tunnel vision I’ll also add the winners from the top of the hill, the inbetweeners Degsie and Kennelly. Kennyelly is shown the door at the Jersey Journal. From that sad state of affairs Degise puts Jim in charge of his campaing. Kennelly is one of the architects of a sad loss. Is the guy sent to the bowery. No degise keeps him as great communicator and policy wizard. Shows you how easy it is to con a con. And degise takes all. Degise manages to fool many particularly hardened to the core individuals that he was loyal to the core with his support of Shcundler. That all other doors was closed is conveniently forgotten. Truth be told Degises talent is not loyaltly btu having more faces than eve. When he was running for mayor he was convincing the state party that he was backing McGreevey while at the same time getting the nod from Schundler for promsing to just go through the motions. And even after the voters give him the thumbs down, Degise tries and plays it cute by showing up with Schundler, but not endorsing him. I’m trying to figure if Degise slipped off the table or if he had become a great actor for he sometimes acts like he is the boss to the point of laying the law down to Schundler. I only know from someone who hears one end of the conversation and got no way of knowing if this is taken seriously by anybody. After Alcalde Rudy everybody knows who the boss is. Another special category has to be Nancy Harrigan. Not bad as an organizer. Still tries to give the impression that she lives in Jersey City. Kiboshed Degise but didn’t seem to last to long with Cunningham. Hubby gone from his job on top of it. I can’t see that one straight. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4050 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 12:37:39 Subject: Nice job. I almost had forgotten about Neil Sheridan. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good Bye Menendez Kenny posted Message 4051 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 12:59:52 Subject: Joe Barry Cops A Plea Developer admits bribing Hudson County politician By JEFFREY GOLD The Associated Press NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — A developer pleaded guilty Tuesday to making nearly $115,000 in bribes to the ranking Hudson County politician as rewards for help in obtaining federal and state grants. As part of his plea agreement, Joseph Barry is to repay $1 million to the funding agencies. He faces two to two-and-a-half years in prison when sentenced Oct. 6, said U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie. The case is among several developed with the assistance of the county's former political boss, Robert C. Janiszewski, who wore a wire and secretly recorded meetings with other politicians as well as with Barry. The plea by Barry, former president of Hoboken-based Applied Development Co., came eight months after he and Janiszewski's operative were indicted. Barry pleaded guilty to four bribery counts in the indictment. The remaining six counts are to be dismissed at sentencing. The bribery scheme provided $8.8 million in loans and grants for Barry and his company, according to the federal indictment. The restitution is less because the grants were used for the intended purpose, Christie said. Barry's guilty plea is the latest milestone in the continuing federal investigation into corruption in Hudson County, which has resulted in several other pleas and convictions. Most notable among them was the October 2002 guilty plea by Janiszewski, the former top elected official in Hudson County, who admitted taking more than $100,000 in bribes. The charges against Barry and Janiszewski aide Paul J. Byrne stemmed from video and audio recordings that Janiszewski made with Barry, Byrne and others as he assisted federal agents, the U.S. Attorney's Office said. Some of the schemes were outlined during testimony that Janiszewski gave in spring 2003 at the corruption trial of six-term Hudson County Freeholder Nidia Davila Colon. Janiszewski said that he and Byrne agreed to accept kickbacks from Barry, whose firm built and operates thousands of apartments in Hoboken and Jersey City. In return, they helped Barry win federal subsidies and county approval for his developments, Janiszewski testified. Barry, 64, of Peapack-Gladstone, and Byrne, of Jersey City, remain free on bond. Byrne still faces trial. The indictment charged Barry with bribery, conspiracy and fraud, which each carry up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Byrne faces fraud and conspiracy charges, as well attempted extortion for an official, which carries up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4052 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 18:11:32 Subject: Ward D Caroll Club I see that the Nancy Harrigan Ward D Club has got a new sign and is now the Caroll Club. Any proud members Online to announce the new look? ***************** End Of Article ****************** S Glazer posted Message 4053 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 18:31:10 Subject: CORPHQ NAMES CARLTON MCGEE AS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER CORPHQ NAMES CARLTON MCGEE AS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER Redondo Beach, CA, (June 22, 2004) – CorpHQ,Inc. (COHQ-OTCPK) has announced the expansion of its executive team with the appointment of Carlton McGee, Sr. as Chief Financial Officer. Mr. McGee brings to CorpHQ a highly diversified career in both the private and public sectors spanning more than 30 years. For the past fourteen years he has held a series of high-level public finance posts. Until last Friday, June 18th McGee served as the Business Administrator for the city of Jersey City, where he was the appointing authority and chief operating officer. Mr. McGee managed an annual operating budget exceeding $375 million covering 17 Departments and 2,500 employees, and assisted the Mayor in direct supervision of all divisions of city government. Before coming to Jersey City, Mr. McGee was the Chief Financial Officer for the City Colleges of Chicago with an annual budget of $300 million. As Deputy Chief Financial Officer for Cook County with an annual budget of over $3 billion, Mr. McGee led the selection and design of the first integrated enterprise accounting system. Mr. McGee also worked as First Managing Deputy Comptroller for the City of Chicago and as First Deputy Treasurer for the City of Chicago supervising the upgrading of their financial systems. Subsequent to these positions, Mr. McGee worked 16 years in private sector management consulting, sales and marketing functions. Mr. McGee holds a B.S. in Chemical Engineering from Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois and a M.B.A. in Finance from the University of Chicago. “The addition of Carlton McGee to our executive management team is yet another major milestone in CorpHQ’s history,” said Steve Crane, CorpHQ’s CEO. “He is an extremely sophisticated executive with the requisite contacts and experience to help move CorpHQ up the financial ladder.” Carlton McGee said, “I loved what I saw when I visited CorpHQ’s California office last month. This is a group of experienced entrepreneurs that know exactly where they want this company to be in the future and are taking a step-by-step approach to meet those goals. I am excited about this opportunity and look forward to adding value for our shareholders.” Mr. Crane added, “I like to think that we have made a powerful statement to our investors with this appointment. We are committed to increasing our efficiency, reducing the time from launch of a portfolio company to liquidity event and to expanding the scope of our operations. We believe Carlton will make a powerful contribution toward our meeting those goals.” About CorpHQ, Inc. Since the inception of its predecessor company in 1993, CorpHQ, Inc. has evolved from an innovative online marketplace and virtual corporation for small and home-based businesses into a business consulting organization and holding company comprised of established and emerging companies. The CorpHQ companies address vertical market segments in the Consumer Products, Services and Technology industries. For additional information please visit the Company's website at www.corphq.com. 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(310) 540-8851 ext. 21 ***************** End Of Article ****************** She devil posted Message 4054 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 19:54:05 Subject: Re: The characters redux : Looking over the constant barrage of mindless buffoonery exhibited at this blog by one Tom Gaynor has put me in a reflective mood. The world is full of fools who can hunt and peck on a computer keyboard, so there is no surprise there. The shock and awe lies in the fact that Bret Schundler took the Gaynors seriously. Nancy Gaynor was on the Council for the Journal Square ward. Her son was awarded a plum job. Even after managing to totally alienate the voters and get the boot in 97, Schundler kept Gaynor on in a fifth wheel office -- at great expense to the taxpayers and no benefit derived therefrom. How could this tag team of clowns manage to fool Schundler into thinking that they were some sort of political gold when all objective touchstones showed exactly the opposite? : And it don't stop at the Gaynors. There’s a whole zoo of these baboons in Jersey City. The next in line for consideration is the Macchis. The Macchis was in with Dr. Paul T. Jordan and was involved in the biggest political implosion that this city has ever seen, Paul Jordan's crash and burn. After that you'd think that all would know that the Macchis are political toxic waste. Armed only with silly smiles, stupid jokes and a storefront from which to hand out free hotdogs to the truly useless, the Macchis have got themselves cherished even after proving time and again that they don't sway a single vote. Catherine Macchi p1ssed off the voters of B as bad as Nancy Gaynor and got the same heaveho. Schundler awards Catherine Macchi just the same for no good purpose to himself or to the paying public. ANd Bill Macchi is the biggest joke, after losing lock stock and barrell to Bobbj J. One would assume that brain trust Schundler would sever all ties to Macchis. No Schundler awards Bill Macchis clown act with big jobs. The son gets a job too at Athletics like this is a Jersey City royal family to be cherished and pampered. : Paul Jordan was some set of work too. Easing in on the slip of the bannana peal of JVK, Dr. Jordan thought himself as a pretty hot property. Couldn't even manage to remember the last name of Ted Kennedy at a Journal Square rally calling him Kenny by mistake, a real good way to work yourself into the good graces at a national level. : And then there was Neil Sheridan, Nancy Gaynor's boss at the missing in action office. Neil Sheridan was working from his apartment for most of the 97 on Schundler term. Working from hisapartment was the nice way of saying getting over a hangover. The yuppie puppie loses the battleship for Jersey City and walks the first and last 100 yards of the St Patricks day parade. Does this get a swift rap on the knuckles from above, no the response is the elevation to Deputy Mayor. : And of coarse there was Timothy tip toe through the tulips Sheridan, the Schundler's babysitter. Awarded the important and politcally sensitive mayors action bureau. He was lucky to have Maureen Corcoran there to hold up his end. : And then there was Lonnie Sobel. He was supposed to put Timothy Sheridan in the parking authority for Schundler but saw the light and did Glenn's bidding. Lonnie wanders the globe looking for floosies in every nook and cranny yet remains on the parking authorty. Here's a question what has the guy got going for him. Schundler thought him useful. Glenn owed him, I guess. Lonnies partner John is up the ladder at the PA. : And then there's that fence straddling surivor Maggie Doyle. Never controlled a single vote. In my bourbon travelling days I'd wake up and find that I had enjoyed the company of a local resident and it would be it was great here's cab fare home. But Maggie Doyle goes from administration to administration like the empress of china. : And that brings to mind Bobby Js cherished scrapbook that was taken from Paul Byrne. When that’s in the public domain all hell will surely break lose. : There was Fargo. Was supposed to back Brian Oreilly stop the Odea juggernaut but Nick either slipped up or saw the light. God only knows what Fargo brought to 280 Grove but Schundler thought he was worth 100 grand a year. As Schundler is getting ready to go for gov, Nick takes the buyout. Schundler actually was going to rehire Fargo until the state of NJ put the kibosh on the fast one. This one is such a curveball there’s got to be more than meets the eye. : They seem to work often as husband and wife teams. In addition to the already reviewed Gaynors and Macchis, there also was the Accursos. Mary worked like a bee and the credit has got to be given to her. Though the oldtimers will cringe at my talking ill of the dead, truth to be told Richie went beyond useless to the point of ridiculous. All day he would stare at the wall or chat on the phone. Him and Maggie weren’t too bad at selling tickets, but not enough to receive absolution in my book. Also still hanging in there are the Andersons. Wayne is in a category all by his lonesome self, for he is an import. I thought that after the sorry debacle of the jazz man going poof, Wayne would be on the road again. No, in the best tradtion of big business, Bret gives Wayne a promotion to Siberia. His wife is carrying on the tradition in a big way. Runs for office and don’t fill a thimble with votes. Are we talking about excommunication here, No Glenn shows he’s got a wrong a set of instincts as Bret and rewards the bunch. Wayne gets brought back into the fray to clean up Journal Square and you can easily check what a bonny job he has done. But don’t head to the fountain unless you is extraordinarily broadminded – if you get my dirft. I don’t know how she does it by Mrs. Anderson is hard at work selling both to here and to 280 Grove. Change to administration be damned there. I was in Newark and they is laughing themselves silly over the disgraceful clutter of bad signage, as well they should given the good job that Newark accomplished in that regards. As Newark is quick to point out, doesn’t anybody in Jersey City know that red is only to be used in a sign for an emergency facility and that is generally a hospital. : Even retired I still don’t need glasses and certainly not of the rosy color. The point isn’t that the jabberers are jabberers but that they are useless. They don’t buy votes they don’t bring in revenue. We’ve got our own sideshow of freaks, but they all help to pull the wagon. If you want to enjoy local flavor at a hot dog stand, don’t tour the sabrett factory. : And just to show that I don’t have tunnel vision I’ll also add the winners from the top of the hill, the inbetweeners Degsie and Kennelly. Kennyelly is shown the door at the Jersey Journal. From that sad state of affairs Degise puts Jim in charge of his campaing. Kennelly is one of the architects of a sad loss. Is the guy sent to the bowery. No degise keeps him as great communicator and policy wizard. Shows you how easy it is to con a con. And degise takes all. Degise manages to fool many particularly hardened to the core individuals that he was loyal to the core with his support of Shcundler. That all other doors was closed is conveniently forgotten. Truth be told Degises talent is not loyaltly btu having more faces than eve. When he was running for mayor he was convincing the state party that he was backing McGreevey while at the same time getting the nod from Schundler for promsing to just go through the motions. And even after the voters give him the thumbs down, Degise tries and plays it cute by showing up with Schundler, but not endorsing him. I’m trying to figure if Degise slipped off the table or if he had become a great actor for he sometimes acts like he is the boss to the point of laying the law down to Schundler. I only know from someone who hears one end of the conversation and got no way of knowing if this is taken seriously by anybody. After Alcalde Rudy everybody knows who the boss is. : Another special category has to be Nancy Harrigan. Not bad as an organizer. Still tries to give the impression that she lives in Jersey City. Kiboshed Degise but didn’t seem to last to long with Cunningham. Hubby gone from his job on top of it. I can’t see that one straight. Lets start by getting 1 thing straight. The biggest crash and burn pol in Jersey City history was not Dr. Paul but rather the author of the nasty missive one Gerry McCann. Jordan went on to a successful career and raised a fine family. Gerry went on to become a convict and middle aged skirt chaser who latches onto srewy Louie to revive a comical and sad career. Al least Gerry is wising up. He now hides behind an anonymous name on a putrid message board rather than the old brash Gerry who would say it to someone's face. I guess he's caught enough beatings in this lifetime. Hey Gerry wanna run for freeholder again? ***************** End Of Article ****************** icu posted Message 4055 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 20:52:38 Subject: Re: Parking Authority locked Closet : Are they still be sold out of the paring authorityand are they still being stored there,under lock and key? King couldn't buy the Grand Marshall sash for last year's parade so instead of the gofer jackets he has his wannabe sash under lock and key. "Irish municipal employee of the year" his honorific to himself, ranks at the very top of public buffoonery even in Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He didn't realise what he was in for in Jersey City posted Message 4056 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 21:36:04 Subject: Re: CORPHQ NAMES CARLTON MCGEE AS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER Anyone who watched Carlton at the Council meetings quickly realised that he was looking for a way out. On several occasions, he just sat there with his head in his hands (if he had a thought balloon it would have read "Get me outta here"). I had a sneaking suspicion that he was job searching since last year. No matter how you feel about the job that he did, he did what most employees have to do...what their boss tells them, even though they find it dubious just to keep a job. I've been there myself with a past employer and it's not fun. He's a smart guy (too bad we had lousy leadership that he served under). Best of luck to him in CA. : CORPHQ NAMES CARLTON MCGEE : AS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER : Redondo Beach, CA, (June 22, 2004) – CorpHQ,Inc. (COHQ-OTCPK) has announced the expansion of its executive team with the appointment of Carlton McGee, Sr. as Chief Financial Officer. Mr. McGee brings to CorpHQ a highly diversified career in both the private and public sectors spanning more than 30 years. For the past fourteen years he has held a series of high-level public finance posts. Until last Friday, June 18th McGee served as the Business Administrator for the city of Jersey City, where he was the appointing authority and chief operating officer. Mr. McGee managed an annual operating budget exceeding $375 million covering 17 Departments and 2,500 employees, and assisted the Mayor in direct supervision of all divisions of city government. : : Before coming to Jersey City, Mr. McGee was the Chief Financial Officer for the City Colleges of Chicago with an annual budget of $300 million. As Deputy Chief Financial Officer for Cook County with an annual budget of over $3 billion, Mr. McGee led the selection and design of the first integrated enterprise accounting system. Mr. McGee also worked as First Managing Deputy Comptroller for the City of Chicago and as First Deputy Treasurer for the City of Chicago supervising the upgrading of their financial systems. Subsequent to these positions, Mr. McGee worked 16 years in private sector management consulting, sales and marketing functions. Mr. McGee holds a B.S. in Chemical Engineering from Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois and a M.B.A. in Finance from the University of Chicago. : : “The addition of Carlton McGee to our executive management team is yet another major milestone in CorpHQ’s history,” said Steve Crane, CorpHQ’s CEO. “He is an extremely sophisticated executive with the requisite contacts and experience to help move CorpHQ up the financial ladder.” : : Carlton McGee said, “I loved what I saw when I visited CorpHQ’s California office last month. This is a group of experienced entrepreneurs that know exactly where they want this company to be in the future and are taking a step-by-step approach to meet those goals. I am excited about this opportunity and look forward to adding value for our shareholders.” : : Mr. Crane added, “I like to think that we have made a powerful statement to our investors with this appointment. We are committed to increasing our efficiency, reducing the time from launch of a portfolio company to liquidity event and to expanding the scope of our operations. We believe Carlton will make a powerful contribution toward our meeting those goals.” : About CorpHQ, Inc. : Since the inception of its predecessor company in 1993, CorpHQ, Inc. has evolved from an innovative online marketplace and virtual corporation for small and home-based businesses into a business consulting organization and holding company comprised of established and emerging companies. The CorpHQ companies address vertical market segments in the Consumer Products, Services and Technology industries. For additional information please visit the Company's website at www.corphq.com. : Forward-Looking Statements : Any statements made in this press release which are not historical facts contain certain “forward-looking statements”, as such term is defined in the Private Litigation Reform Act of 1995, concerning potential developments affecting the business, prospects, financial condition and other aspects of the company to which this release pertains. The actual results of the specific items described in this release, and the company’s operations generally, may differ materially from what is projected in such forward-looking statements. Although such statements are based upon the best judgments of management of the company as of the date of this release, significant deviations in magnitude, timing and other factors may result from business risks and uncertainties including, without limitation, the company’s dependence on third parties, general market and economic conditions, technical factors, the availability of outside capital, receipt of revenues and other factors, many of which are beyond the control of the company. The company disclaims any obligation to update information contained in any forward-looking statement. : This press release is available at www.corphq.com : and http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=COHQ. : : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Contact: : : CorpHQ, Inc. : Steven Glazer, VP-Investor Relations : glazer@corphq.com : Tel. (310) 540-8851 ext. 21 : ***************** End Of Article ****************** A friend......(tweet tweet) posted Message 4057 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 21:48:02 Subject: Best of luck Carlton Jersey City lost a good guy! : Anyone who watched Carlton at the Council meetings quickly realised that he was looking for a way out. On several occasions, he just sat there with his head in his hands (if he had a thought balloon it would have read "Get me outta here"). I had a sneaking suspicion that he was job searching since last year. : No matter how you feel about the job that he did, he did what most employees have to do...what their boss tells them, even though they find it dubious just to keep a job. I've been there myself with a past employer and it's not fun. : He's a smart guy (too bad we had lousy leadership that he served under). Best of luck to him in CA. : : CORPHQ NAMES CARLTON MCGEE : : AS CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER : : Redondo Beach, CA, (June 22, 2004) – CorpHQ,Inc. (COHQ-OTCPK) has announced the expansion of its executive team with the appointment of Carlton McGee, Sr. as Chief Financial Officer. Mr. McGee brings to CorpHQ a highly diversified career in both the private and public sectors spanning more than 30 years. For the past fourteen years he has held a series of high-level public finance posts. Until last Friday, June 18th McGee served as the Business Administrator for the city of Jersey City, where he was the appointing authority and chief operating officer. Mr. McGee managed an annual operating budget exceeding $375 million covering 17 Departments and 2,500 employees, and assisted the Mayor in direct supervision of all divisions of city government. : : : : Before coming to Jersey City, Mr. McGee was the Chief Financial Officer for the City Colleges of Chicago with an annual budget of $300 million. As Deputy Chief Financial Officer for Cook County with an annual budget of over $3 billion, Mr. McGee led the selection and design of the first integrated enterprise accounting system. Mr. McGee also worked as First Managing Deputy Comptroller for the City of Chicago and as First Deputy Treasurer for the City of Chicago supervising the upgrading of their financial systems. Subsequent to these positions, Mr. McGee worked 16 years in private sector management consulting, sales and marketing functions. Mr. McGee holds a B.S. in Chemical Engineering from Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois and a M.B.A. in Finance from the University of Chicago. : : : : “The addition of Carlton McGee to our executive management team is yet another major milestone in CorpHQ’s history,” said Steve Crane, CorpHQ’s CEO. “He is an extremely sophisticated executive with the requisite contacts and experience to help move CorpHQ up the financial ladder.” : : : : Carlton McGee said, “I loved what I saw when I visited CorpHQ’s California office last month. This is a group of experienced entrepreneurs that know exactly where they want this company to be in the future and are taking a step-by-step approach to meet those goals. I am excited about this opportunity and look forward to adding value for our shareholders.” : : : : Mr. Crane added, “I like to think that we have made a powerful statement to our investors with this appointment. We are committed to increasing our efficiency, reducing the time from launch of a portfolio company to liquidity event and to expanding the scope of our operations. We believe Carlton will make a powerful contribution toward our meeting those goals.” : : About CorpHQ, Inc. : : Since the inception of its predecessor company in 1993, CorpHQ, Inc. has evolved from an innovative online marketplace and virtual corporation for small and home-based businesses into a business consulting organization and holding company comprised of established and emerging companies. The CorpHQ companies address vertical market segments in the Consumer Products, Services and Technology industries. For additional information please visit the Company's website at www.corphq.com. : : Forward-Looking Statements : : Any statements made in this press release which are not historical facts contain certain “forward-looking statements”, as such term is defined in the Private Litigation Reform Act of 1995, concerning potential developments affecting the business, prospects, financial condition and other aspects of the company to which this release pertains. The actual results of the specific items described in this release, and the company’s operations generally, may differ materially from what is projected in such forward-looking statements. Although such statements are based upon the best judgments of management of the company as of the date of this release, significant deviations in magnitude, timing and other factors may result from business risks and uncertainties including, without limitation, the company’s dependence on third parties, general market and economic conditions, technical factors, the availability of outside capital, receipt of revenues and other factors, many of which are beyond the control of the company. The company disclaims any obligation to update information contained in any forward-looking statement. : : This press release is available at www.corphq.com : : and http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=COHQ. : : : : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : : Contact: : : : : CorpHQ, Inc. : : Steven Glazer, VP-Investor Relations : : glazer@corphq.com : : Tel. (310) 540-8851 ext. 21 : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** I thought the Carroll club is Rascal's? I couldn't resist! posted Message 4058 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 21:53:35 Subject: Re: Ward D Caroll Club : I see that the Nancy Harrigan Ward D Club has got a new sign and is now the Caroll Club. : Any proud members Online to announce the new look? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Carlton the Doorman posted Message 4059 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 22:20:42 Subject: La La Land You can understand why California is in a state of chaos. With The Gropernator as Governor and two nitwits like Glazer and McGee in high corporate positions ... the state will soon sink into the Pacific. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Finally a good investment! posted Message 4060 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 22:29:19 Subject: Vegas will be waterfront property? : You can understand why California is in a state of chaos. With The Gropernator as Governor and two nitwits like Glazer and McGee in high corporate positions ... the state will soon sink into the Pacific. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chubby Reality Checker posted Message 4061 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 22:32:48 Subject: Jersey City didn't know what it was getting into with Carlton McGee I'm about to hurl reading these praises for Carlton McGee. Ask any City management employee what they thought about Carlton. The vast majority will tell you about his arrogance, his heavy handed tactics and his pure stupidity. Carlton would sit at Council meetings, with his head in his hands, because he often had no clue what was going on in the meetings. He couldn't wait to run out to one of the local watering holes. And the idea that he was forced to carry out the wrongful policies of the Cunningham Administration is also false. McGee was hand picked by Joe Cardwell and Reverend Allen for the BA's position. He was gladly the henchmen for the Cunningham gang, purging those judged political enemies and placing Cunningham hacks in jobs all over the City. Carlton McGee was a boorish bully, and an exceedingly stupid one at that. Good riddance. ***************** End Of Article ****************** An enemy posted Message 4062 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 22:42:48 Subject: Worst of luck Carlton; Jersey City freed of a rotten guy! What would make the day complete is if Glazer and McGee took Greg Corrado with them. I'm sure he'd be a great success in Hollywood. NOT !!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** lol......now now posted Message 4063 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 22, 2004 at 22:49:17 Subject: Re: Worst of luck Carlton; Jersey City freed of a rotten guy! : What would make the day complete is if Glazer and McGee took Greg Corrado with them. I'm sure he'd be a great success in Hollywood. : NOT !!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Connect the Dots posted Message 4064 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 23, 2004 at 00:01:42 Subject: Bernie Kenny = Joe Barry's Personal Attorney Do I have to draw you a picture ??? Bye Bye Bernie ***************** End Of Article ****************** eat my dots posted Message 4065 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 23, 2004 at 00:18:24 Subject: Re: Bernie Kenny = Joe Barry's Personal Attorney Yes please, and make it naughty ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseMidge posted Message 4066 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 23, 2004 at 07:32:56 Subject: Lou Manzo will be very tough to Beat For Mayor Of JC Talking too Tom Gaynor last night on the boardwalk in beautiful Avon-By -The-Sea.He tells me that Manzo has to be regarded as the one to beat.He SAIDS THE ODDS ARE EVEN MONEY THAT LOU WILL BE THE Mayor.All eyes will be on the Mayoral race.Who will the HCDO pick to run against lou a the best kept secret he has seen in politics in jersey city in a long time.So saids Tom Gaynor> ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sean Connors posted Message 4067 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 23, 2004 at 07:45:13 Subject: Proposed School In Heights At tonights city council meeting Joy Jawrowski is assembling residents who are opposed to the "States" plan to disrupt a very good neighborhood by knocking down homes and businesses to build a school along Kennedy Blvd. and Columbia Avenue on our Western Slope.This meeting starts at 6PM at City Hall. Everyone and anyone is invited to attend. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseSmidge posted Message 4068 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 23, 2004 at 07:48:29 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo will be very tough to Beat For Mayor Of JC : Talking too myself, me, Tom Gaynor last night on the boardwalk in beautiful Avon-By -The-Sea.I told myself that Manzo has to be regarded as the one to beat.I SAID TO MYSELF, SELF, THE ODDS ARE EVEN MONEY THAT LOU WILL BE THE Mayor.All eyes will be on the Mayoral race.Who will the HCDO pick to run against lou a the best kept secret he has seen in politics in jersey city in a long time.So saids Tom Gaynor> What I fail to mention is that I am a psychotic, toothless old fool whobilked the good people of JerseyCity.Ispend my days drooling and building sandcastles looking over my shoulder cause I know they are coming to take me away - ha,ha. ***************** End Of Article ****************** URBAN TIMES NEWS posted Message 4069 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 23, 2004 at 07:55:43 Subject: ACTING MAYOR CONFUSION URBAN TIMES NEWS June 18, 2004 - June 24, 2004 Call 201-451-4131 to have the Urban Times News delivered to a commercial business. ACTING MAYOR CONFUSION by UTN Staff In the few weeks since the death of Jersey City's first son, the Honorable Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, City Council President L. Harvey Smith has been temporarily fulfilling the office of Jersey City's chief executive. There have been many questions about the actions he has taken in office. These actions have not necessarily been blunders, but they have definitely been wonders - wonders that set the imagination afire with confusion. To paraphrase comedian Arsenio Hall, these are things that make you go ...Hmmmm. Days after the Mayor died of a massive heart attack, Council President took over his office as mayor, a position he has coveted since Cunningham's first successful election. [In that contest, the Hudson County Democratic ganization (HCDO) and the reform Democrat organization RDO), both rejected Smith as a mayoral candidate.] Publicly he claimed that moves needed to be made quickly so as to maintain order and conduct business while allowing the city to heal. In the days following the elected mayor's death, the city council president in his role as acting mayor, instituted a massive wave of firings. While the dismissal of key Cunningham staff (Deputy Mayors Eugene Drayton, Anthony Cruz, and Chief of Staff Bill Ayala) was not surprising, theday-after-his-funeral timing of events was. In the midst of Jersey City's grief, City Hall support staff was expelled as well, sacrificing dedicated workers for being Cunningham loyalists. Public claims of "maintaining order" and "healing the city" were now obvious lies that could not drown out the sobs of mourning workers lamenting the loss of their leader and now, their livelihood. Cunningham Business Administrator Carlton McGee was prepared to leave peacefully. He resigned for personal reasons, and was even rumored to have moved on to a new job. Such does not seem to be the case any longer. Sources say he will be retained as a consultant for the temporary administration, reporting to the acting mayor. Corporate Counsel Karen DeSoto was informed of the installed mayor's intention to fire her, shortly after she offered an opinion potentially criticizing the council's intentions for voting an interim mayor. While she too has scheduled a court appearance, unconfirmed reports claim she is being offered a position as Acting Mayor Smith's personal attorney. Smith callously demanded director resignations from: Police Chief Buonocore, Fire Director Jerome Cala, Department of Recreation Bob Hurley, Police Director Sam Jefferson, Department of Housing Economic Development and Commerce Mark Munley and Department of Public Works Director Betty Outlaw, shortly after Cunningham's death. Days later, Smith rejected their resignations and kept Directors Cala, Hurley, Lamboy and Outlaw as agency heads. He did not explain his actions, but insisted it was his right to act as he did. To review, Acting Mayor/City Council president Smith fired the elected Mayor Glenn D.Cunningham employees, then turns around and hires them as his own? These not-blunders must count as wonders. They certainly make you go - Hmmmm. Buonocore and Munley opted to fight in court rather than submit their resignations. Though positioned as the "one who gave in" by the current administration, insiders know Chief Buonocore has a long and storied history with Hudson County factions. In nearly a dozen court cases where Hudson County officials have challenged Buonocore's position, he has never lost. Buonocore and his attorney had every intention of challenging City Council President Smith's authority to fire him as an "acting" mayor, because a police chief's term is protected, designated as the same full term as the elected mayor. Despite the musings of current administration representatives, no one believes the Chief "backed down" facing the challenge of Acting Mayor Smith. Buonocore retains his position after a pre-trial settlement, but sources claim the acting mayor is now "reaching out" to the police chief he had first tried to oust. Again this is no blunder, but what a wonder - to disrespect then pay respects, expecting to be friends? Mark Munley, Director of the HEDC, has also scheduled a court date. A former HEDC chief under Gerry McCann, Mayor Cunningham appointed him to office in 2001. Amidst allegations of impropriety at his previous position, Smith heralded investigations into Munley's dealings at the HEDC. Subsequent reports eventually vindicated Munley, though they were not made public until shortly after Cunningham's death. Meanwhile, Munley has returned as HEDC director, claiming an acting mayor does not have the authority to fire him. Smith vehemently vows to expel Munley from the agency once and for all. Meanwhile business at one of the most powerful of the City's Departments has grinded to a halt. Again, no blunder, but one wonders how this helps maintain order. Taking a three-month leave of absence from his county post as undersheriff, L. Harvey Smith has barely served in that capacity for three months in total. His boss, County Sheriff Joseph Cassidy is seeking legal advice on how to respond, unsure that he can even grant a leave of absence for the non-civil service position in personnel administration. Smith's job demands that he work days, and he is now using vacation time to which he may not even be entitled. Perhaps it is no blunder, but the hard-working former Undersheriff George Wilson, who was ousted to provide resume fodder for then only Council President Smith, and the hard-working citizens of Jersey City, who would be getting an active undersheriff worth their tax dollars had Smith not flexed political muscle, have to shake their heads and again say, Hmmmm. Smith has restructured his compensation, earning $92,000 in base salary as council president and acting mayor. While the salary reflects the mayor base salary, the position reflects a duality that the constitution works to prevent. The need for separation of the mayor's office and the city council is comparable to keeping the President from leading the Senate. It is paramount to the concept of checks and balances inherent in Democracy. For Jersey City, the Municipal Council has acted as the legislative branch, while the Mayor's Office has functioned as the executive branch. Like in federal government, it is inherent that both branches of government be separate. Such is not the case in Jersey City. The city charter has made stipulations to follow in such an event, but the complacency of non-Cunningham councilpersons now benefits their political influence. The "mayor" is now beholden to them. Likewise the Council President claims that his "administration" wants to work with this council. The best example of how revealed itself within two weeks of the elected mayor's passing. Eight appointments to the boards of autonomous agencies were made and voted upon. This contrasts to two years of political wrangling from the city council to prevent the elected Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham from appointing a single member to replace officials whose terms had expired. The elected mayor's appointments were never ratified and the voice of the people was ignored for Council fears that Cunningham appointments would erode their base of power and influence. They now revel in the freedom to push their own agendas and lackeys forward. Council appointments included: • Elba Perez-Cinciarelli replacing Greg Racelis and Edward Cheatam, newly selected acting deputy mayor, replacing Della Womack on the JCHA. • Smith's chief of staff Roger Jones replacing Pamela Gardner and probation officer Thomas Lambert replacing JCPA Executive Director, Jimmy King on the JCIA;. • Janet Gaita replacing Marie Tauro as an alternate, and Councilman Gaughan's daughter, Eileen being placed with William Macchi as her alternate on the MUA. • Carmen Venezia replaces Paul Kadri who resigned from the JCPA. Resolutions nominating these individuals were approved 7-2 with Councilman Lipski and Councilwoman Richardson providing the only dissent. While Gaughan abstained on his daughter's vote she, like the rest, was approved through political nepotism and a voting "mayor" on the council. This is not democracy inaction and it is even questionable if it is the law in action, but with whom shall the people seek remedy? The mayor "for the people" literally votes with the council. He has already finagled mayoral compensation and privilege - freezing all new hires, stopping the awarding or extensions of contracts, and reviewing any expenditures over $1000. The "mayor" is now acting like he is thirsty for greater power, not motivated by his love of Jersey City, but his longtime infatuation with power. Defending his actions and intentions, Acting Mayor/City Council President L. Harvey Smith says he will remain as acting mayor until the November election. This presumes that the City Council will not vote to install a new temporary substitute from among its own as mayor, but does not preclude his ouster as City Council president. Either way none of the participants is legally forced to make a move until then. While Smith contends he will run, neither the Hudson County Democrats nor the Reformed Democrats have entertained the idea of supporting him. In fact, sources in the Hudson County Executive's office claim that DeGise and Smith are not speaking, Smith angered by the fact that he is again being spurned again as their nominee for Jersey City mayor. Yet and still, the acting mayor city council president intends to throw his hat in the ring for November, and looks forward to running again in May. He will reportedly throw a fundraiser at the end of this month. Disrespecting a beloved mayor, exercising mayoral privileges with no regard for the people affected; trusting party and council colleagues equally hungry to warm the seat of power; nurturing political enemies with deeds and actions that cannot be explained. Again we're not saying any of these things are blunders, we just think it makes you wonder. Just a few more considerations about the acting mayor council president that makes us go - Hmmmm. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4070 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 23, 2004 at 08:18:08 Subject: DeGise will pick a good MAN to run for Mayor of JC. As long as we get a Honest ,bright PERSON >>The only point I get is that Jackie or is it Jac-Kah has a potty mouth! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vinnie Barbarino posted Message 4145 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 27, 2004 at 21:31:30 Subject: Wotsamatta wit dat ? At least if they are busy booing Harvey they ain't busy killing one another !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frank Hague's Ghost posted Message 4146 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 27, 2004 at 21:35:19 Subject: Re: Frank Hague: Dictator – American Style Don't diss the Haguester. Remember ... I AM THE LAW !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO posted Message 4147 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 27, 2004 at 22:09:00 Subject: Re: Wotsamatta wit dat ? : At least if they are busy booing Harvey they ain't busy killing one another !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** badda bibg badda BOOM! posted Message 4148 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 27, 2004 at 23:46:58 Subject: 7-04-2004 Fireworks are added for Jersey this 4th Statue of Liberty's reopening rates salute Saturday, June 26, 2004 By The Associated Press For viewers in New Jersey, and particularly in Hudson County, part of the huge Macy's Fourth of July fireworks display won't be obstructed by the Manhattan skyline this year - a special tribute to the Statue of Liberty's reopening this summer. Traditionally, the display is launched from the East River, on the eastern side of Manhattan. This will be the first time since the millennial celebration in July 2000, when a barge was moored near the Intrepid Sea Air Space Museum, that the fireworks have been launched on Manhattan's west, or New Jersey side. This year one of the six fireworks barges will be moored in New Jersey waters near the statue, just off the shore of Liberty State Park in Jersey City. Three barges will be moored in the East River, at traditional locations between 23rd and 42nd Streets, and two barges will moored by the South Street Seaport, near the southern tip of Manhattan, also on the east side. Jersey City acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith said that this is a great opportunity for the residents of Jersey City to participate in the nation's display of patriotism. "And what better place to watch the fireworks and celebrate America's independence than in Jersey City, where you can see not only Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty, but also the beautiful Manhattan skyline, as well," Smith said. Jersey City and The Star-Ledger of Newark are helping to pay for the New Jersey barge in the Macy's display, said Elena Kazan, a Macy's spokeswoman. In April, the National Park Service said that the Statue of Liberty's pedestal - though not the internal spiral staircase to the crown - will be reopened to the public in July after being closed for security reasons since the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks. That's the main reason Macy's is extending its fireworks display, the nation's biggest, across the water from New York this year, Kazan said. The show, scheduled to begin at 9:20 p.m. on July 4, is expected to draw 50,000 spectators to Liberty State Park and its vicinity. Even before the fireworks the skies will play host to another spectacular show when at 8 p.m. a team of four A-10 fighter jets, courtesy of the 102nd Fighter Unit of Massachusetts, will fly over the state park. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Movie drives home the warning of a real leader posted Message 4149 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 27, 2004 at 23:54:42 Subject: Fanreinheit 911 I saw the movie last night, and its facts (not its opinions) reminded me of the prophetic words of a real Commander & Chief... "This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience…we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." - President Dwight David Eisenhower, in his Farewell Address as President to the nation, January 17, 1961. "I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its stupidity." - Eisenhower's Speech in Ottawa, Canada, made January, 10 1946. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4150 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 05:45:33 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 4151 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 07:03:42 Subject: Super weekend @Avon-By-The-Sea There was no murders or robberies and no dirty filty streets ,just a normal sunshine peaceful weekend.I wonder if Political corruption is really worth the trouble.I dont think this is the way to go in Jersey City.What do you taxpayers think? When you vote think of the good life you could have with "honest" government. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4152 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 07:43:19 Subject: NurseVal and Avon by the Sea Are you trying to me in trouble?But you are right ,it was a beautiful weekend at the shore.I hope you were there to enjoy it. Have a great day, Val. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val ain't a Gal posted Message 4153 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 08:53:18 Subject: Re: Super weekend @Avon-By-The-Sea : There was no murders or robberies and no dirty filty streets ,just a normal braindead sunshine peaceful weekend for me.I wonder and wander.I dont think. What do you taxpayers think cause I cant? When you think of the good life you could have with being as mindless an idiot as me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4154 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 08:55:27 Subject: Re: NurseVal and Avon by the Sea : Are you trying to me in trouble letting people know that you, me, Nurse Betsy and Dr X-Ray are all the same person? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr X-Ray posted Message 4155 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 09:07:36 Subject: I see a sick City in need of help We must find a cure real soon or this City will die.Its up to the real Taxpayers to save this city with their Vote. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4156 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 10:15:38 Subject: Saint Glenn I read this morning's letter, by Tony Grazioso to the Jersey Journal, with great amusement. I am guessing that Tony will shortly be boarding a plane to Rome to petition the Pope to beatify the "Honorable" Glenn D. Cunningham. What a load of crap. I understand that Tony is about to lose all his jobs, but please ... show a little class. At least stay silent and stop all this BS ! If Glenn is a saint, is Sandy Mother Teresa ? One would think so if you were to believe the baloney Tony is spouting. Glenn was simply a politician. He was certainly no genius, no learned historian, no great leader. He'll be missed by his constituency, the African American community, but by few others. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Ix-Nay posted Message 4157 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 11:14:29 Subject: Re: I am a sick puppy in need of help : We must find a cure real soon or I will die.Its up to the real Taxpayers to save me and catch while Im not a danger. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4158 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 11:33:01 Subject: HCDO Seeks Diversity in Disenfranchisement It seems that HCDO doesn't just want to stop minorities from voting. Now, senior citizens and the infirm are to be barred, too. What's next, a move to remove the 19th Amendment! This November, will Bill Gaughan be insisting on some sort of mental means test for the residents of senior housing in the Heights before they can vote? #### . . . During an interview after the hearing, Kiczek said he was not happy over the prospect of transporting the sick and elderly residents of the nursing home to the courthouse. Many would have to be taken by ambulance, he said. But Gerald McCann, the former mayor of Jersey City and an HCRDC agent who had been authorized to transport the completed absentee ballots from Liberty House, blamed the HCDO for putting the residents at risk. "He's risking the health of those people. What if somebody dies as a result of this investigation?" he said. "This guy is exploiting senior citizens to control a committee seat." . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCann Stole Votes Again posted Message 4159 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 12:14:39 Subject: Somethings Never Change I'll bet those poor old people in the nursing home never even saw the absentee ballots...... Taking advantage of the elderly? You bet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jaskie posted Message 4160 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 12:24:36 Subject: Re: Saint Glenn : I read this morning's letter, by Tony Grazioso to the Jersey Journal, with great amusement. : I am guessing that Tony will shortly be boarding a plane to Rome to petition the Pope to beatify the "Honorable" Glenn D. Cunningham. : What a load of crap. I understand that Tony is about to lose all his jobs, but please ... show a little class. At least stay silent and stop all this BS ! If Glenn is a saint, is Sandy Mother Teresa ? One would think so if you were to believe the baloney Tony is spouting. : Glenn was simply a politician. He was certainly no genius, no learned historian, no great leader. He'll be missed by his constituency, the African American community, but by few others. You racist J _ _ _ ***************** End Of Article ****************** There they go AGAIN..... everything is racist..what a load of BS posted Message 4161 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 13:01:24 Subject: Re: Saint Glenn That's the problem with the Black community in this country. Gosh forbid you criticize racist blacks like Farakkhan, or Jesse Jackson (remember hymeetown?). And NEVER criticize them for abandoning their children - - which they do like used beer cans. And never tell it like it is....>>> Glenn was a decent man. Not a saint, certainly not very bright. He was the last best hope for the black community....and that's kind of sad in and of itself. But gee wiz....never call it like it is.... because you too will be called a racist. Well...when the majority of the Black community gets a job and gets off werlfare, when the majority of Black children are raised in homes with TWO parents, when the majority of Black students get their diplomas and then a job.....then you can call me racist. Until then....I'm a realist who sees things more clearly than any assh0le who has such a limited vocabulary that all they can write is >>> (You racist J _ _ _). Obviously not a brilliant individual. Most likely another Snyder HS dropout. : : You racist J _ _ _ : : I read this morning's letter, by Tony Grazioso to the Jersey Journal, with great amusement. : : I am guessing that Tony will shortly be boarding a plane to Rome to petition the Pope to beatify the "Honorable" Glenn D. Cunningham. : : What a load of crap. I understand that Tony is about to lose all his jobs, but please ... show a little class. At least stay silent and stop all this BS ! If Glenn is a saint, is Sandy Mother Teresa ? One would think so if you were to believe the baloney Tony is spouting. : : Glenn was simply a politician. He was certainly no genius, no learned historian, no great leader. He'll be missed by his constituency, the African American community, but by few others. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4162 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 13:26:38 Subject: Land of Cotton? Is that North Bergen or Bayonne? Hoboken? : That's the problem with the Black community in this country. Gosh forbid you criticize racist blacks like Farakkhan, or Jesse Jackson (remember hymeetown?). And NEVER criticize them for abandoning their children - - which they do like used beer cans. And never tell it like it is....>>> ***************** End Of Article ****************** Courage posted Message 4163 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 14:37:31 Subject: Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy : : GET THE BUTTERFLY NET.....THIS ONE IS A LUNATIC!! : : : Yeah it is a warning. That If they want you they will get you!! Brothers and sisters BE CAREFUL. If you get too powerful they will get you. They can say what they want call me crazy all they want I DONT CARE. I Know!!! But I hope I am wrong!! : : : : I dont' believe that your post was a reply to Huh???'s post. All of us could benefit from regular checkups to prevent this silent killer. : : : : I'm in agreement with you...let Mr. Cunningham's premature death be a warning to all of us, regardless of our ancestry. Heart/arterial disease kills across the board without respect to ethnicity, gender, income etc. : : : : : : : : : First of all, you sir are a moron; : : : : : Secondly, it was NOT a child who gave him the cotton candy, it was an adult...and a non-political person...I know..I was there; : : : : : Third, and finally, if you had any clue about what happened, you would also know that heart/arterial disease is the Number 1 killer of middle-aged African-American males in the US. : : : : : Mayor Cunningham had not been feeling 100% for quite a while, however he was so dedicated to both his positions as Mayor and Senator and under such stress and time constraints with the travelling between JC and Trenton, that he negelected his own health... And to what end......so people like you could use valuable space to spread ridiculous rumours instead of using it constructively to warn other men (and women) to take preventative care of their health. Do your part to at least make sure his death was not in vain. Let it be a warning! : Yeah Yeah Yeah!!! Blah Blah Blah!! They called Jesus crazy!! Don't get upset because we know yhat you did Last MAy.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Peeved posted Message 4164 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 14:42:25 Subject: Everybody loves Harvey!! Wow! I really liked your greetings at Snyder's Graduation. Oh I forgot they booed you off the stage!! Ha Ha. You are FINISHED!!!You better go to Cali with your boyfriend Carlton! How does it feel ????? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Man The Superhero posted Message 4165 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 15:04:18 Subject: Re: Saint Glenn : That's the problem with the Black community in this country. Gosh forbid you criticize racist blacks like Farakkhan, or Jesse Jackson (remember hymeetown?). And NEVER criticize them for abandoning their children - - which they do like used beer cans. And never tell it like it is....>>> Glenn was a decent man. Not a saint, certainly not very bright. He was the last best hope for the black community....and that's kind of sad in and of itself. But gee wiz....never call it like it is.... because you too will be called a racist. : Well...when the majority of the Black community gets a job and gets off werlfare, when the majority of Black children are raised in homes with TWO parents, when the majority of Black students get their diplomas and then a job.....then you can call me racist. Until then....I'm a realist who sees things more clearly than any assh0le who has such a limited vocabulary that all they can write is >>> (You racist J _ _ _). Obviously not a brilliant individual. Most likely another Snyder HS dropout. : : : : You racist J _ _ _ : : : I read this morning's letter, by Tony Grazioso to the Jersey Journal, with great amusement. : : : I am guessing that Tony will shortly be boarding a plane to Rome to petition the Pope to beatify the "Honorable" Glenn D. Cunningham. : : : What a load of crap. I understand that Tony is about to lose all his jobs, but please ... show a little class. At least stay silent and stop all this BS ! If Glenn is a saint, is Sandy Mother Teresa ? One would think so if you were to believe the baloney Tony is spouting. : : : Glenn was simply a politician. He was certainly no genius, no learned historian, no great leader. He'll be missed by his constituency, the African American community, but by few others. First of all sir what race are you? If you are white how the hell can you tell us what our problem is? You know the problem? Racist, idiodic people like yourself. Look in the mirror. Yes it is about race. Plain and simple The white man does NOT want the BLACK MAN to succeed and will stop us at any cost. I am glad people like yourself talks like this because it shows just how racist Hudson County is. It was proved by the 11-1 ratio of mayors. Glenn was a fair man. He painted pictures that weren't vivid to blind people like you. You didn't get it and you never will. But it's better that you dont. Stay in the dark. Oh yeah. Malcom WAS racist but it was justified because of how WE were treated. But his whole outlook changed when he came back from MECCA. Do your HIS-STORY. Hmmmmm. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Kennelly posted Message 4166 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 15:06:56 Subject: Re: For the last time, "Chakotay" is not Jim Kennelly : It was little ole me. Being a godless evil liberal, sometimes the devil just gets the best of me. : BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!! Hi-- I don't waste my time reading this crap usually. Let's face it, it's basically the same 40 or 50 people howling lies at each other to get the other's goat. People want to come on here who don't know me and slag me with lame half- truths, or whatever, so be it, that's the price of being involved in public service. That said, when I was told by someone told me that my name was in a headline connected to "tasteless" remarks about the late Glenn Cunningham, I felt it was important to set the record straight. I am not Chakotay. This is something I posted on this site, under my own name with a real email address attached to it, last year. So please, any remarks made by "Chakotay" are his or hers alone. Thanks, Jim Kennelly ***************** End Of Article ****************** John posted Message 4167 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 15:08:53 Subject: Re: Snyder High School BOO Acting Mayor : Maybe he went there to teach you how to write and speak english properly. Try a little sentence structure, and maybe a spell-check now and then. And of course (not of cause) punctuation goes a long way towards building credibility too. : : On Friday 6-25-04 Acting Mayor Mr. Harvey Smith asked Principal : : if he could come to the graduation and speak to the students and of cause she said yes out of respect, well when he was introduce to come on stage the entire assembly gave him great BOOOOSSSSSS : : constantly non-stop, I think he was in great shock and he himself could not believe it, not only did the students BOO him but Staff members, Administrators, Parents as well, well Mr. Smith get ready because it looks like this is going to be on going for awhile. ( Why would you go to Snyder of all schools, could it be because Mayor Glenn Cunningham love Snyder and was a student there ) what was your motives : How the hell is gonna teach someone to read when he needs hooked on phoenix himself? ***************** End Of Article ****************** JC Street Pharmacist posted Message 4168 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 15:11:49 Subject: Deputy Mayor is a coke addict Does anybody know about ED Cheetam's coke habit? Or he is a theif? Does anybody care? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4169 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 15:36:01 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The TRUTH posted Message 4170 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 15:36:57 Subject: Re: I think our mayor's death was a conspiracy!!! But you know what's really funny? This guy is telling the truth. The clear liquid and all. They keep calling me a fool but that's what crackers do to discredit people when they are a threat. That and killing you is the only way they can shut you up!! : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blah Blah Blah posted Message 4171 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 15:38:57 Subject: Re: Put away the crack pipe - - - fool Call me a fool to my face. I'll show you a fool. : You are a fool and I pity you for your ignorance. You see.... the uneducated can be educated. The unwashed can be cleaned. But the ignorant....well you are gonna be ignorant no matter what. I pity you. : : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4172 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 15:40:39 Subject: Re: Snyder High School BOO Acting Mayor : : Maybe he went there to teach you how to write and speak english properly. Try a little sentence structure, and maybe a spell-check now and then. And of course (not of cause) punctuation goes a long way towards building credibility too. : : : On Friday 6-25-04 Acting Mayor Mr. Harvey Smith asked Principal : : : if he could come to the graduation and speak to the students and of cause she said yes out of respect, well when he was introduce to come on stage the entire assembly gave him great BOOOOSSSSSS : : : constantly non-stop, I think he was in great shock and he himself could not believe it, not only did the students BOO him but Staff members, Administrators, Parents as well, well Mr. Smith get ready because it looks like this is going to be on going for awhile. ( Why would you go to Snyder of all schools, could it be because Mayor Glenn Cunningham love Snyder and was a student there ) what was your motives : : How the hell is gonna teach someone to read when he needs hooked on phoenix himself? Is that why the University of Phoenix opened a branch here in Jersey City? ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL posted Message 4173 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 15:44:33 Subject: Re: Snyder High School BOO Acting Mayor : : : Maybe he went there to teach you how to write and speak english properly. Try a little sentence structure, and maybe a spell-check now and then. And of course (not of cause) punctuation goes a long way towards building credibility too. : : : : On Friday 6-25-04 Acting Mayor Mr. Harvey Smith asked Principal : : : : if he could come to the graduation and speak to the students and of cause she said yes out of respect, well when he was introduce to come on stage the entire assembly gave him great BOOOOSSSSSS : : : : constantly non-stop, I think he was in great shock and he himself could not believe it, not only did the students BOO him but Staff members, Administrators, Parents as well, well Mr. Smith get ready because it looks like this is going to be on going for awhile. ( Why would you go to Snyder of all schools, could it be because Mayor Glenn Cunningham love Snyder and was a student there ) what was your motives : : : How the hell is gonna teach someone to read when he needs hooked on phoenix himself? : Is that why the University of Phoenix opened a branch here in Jersey City? Ok OK . My mistake. LOL. He's still a schmuck though!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uncle Harvey posted Message 4174 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 15:48:48 Subject: Re: Snyder High School BOO Acting Mayor : : : Maybe he went there to teach you how to write and speak english properly. Try a little sentence structure, and maybe a spell-check now and then. And of course (not of cause) punctuation goes a long way towards building credibility too. : : : : On Friday 6-25-04 Acting Mayor Mr. Harvey Smith asked Principal : : : : if he could come to the graduation and speak to the students and of cause she said yes out of respect, well when he was introduce to come on stage the entire assembly gave him great BOOOOSSSSSS : : : : constantly non-stop, I think he was in great shock and he himself could not believe it, not only did the students BOO him but Staff members, Administrators, Parents as well, well Mr. Smith get ready because it looks like this is going to be on going for awhile. ( Why would you go to Snyder of all schools, could it be because Mayor Glenn Cunningham love Snyder and was a student there ) what was your motives : : : : : it don't mattter you A_ _ H _ _ _ you got the point: : >>>The only point I get is that Jackie or is it Jac-Kah has a potty mouth! Jack I mean Jackie baby don't worry about it we alright you not going to have to go back to Corneilison ave. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Kennelly posted Message 4175 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 16:16:07 Subject: For the last time, "Chakotay" is not Jim Kennelly Hi-- I don't usually waste my time reading this trash. Let's face it, it's basically the same 40 or 50 people howling lies at each other to get the other's goat. If someone wants to anonymously slag me here, so be it, I suppose that's the price of being involved in public service these days. That said, I was told by someone recently that my name was in a headline in this forum last week connected to "tasteless" remarks about the late Glenn Cunningham, so I felt it was important to check out what they were talking about. It turned out these "remarks" consisted of one of the regular posters here named "Chakotay" using the word "croaked" in reference to Glenn Cunningham's recent passing. The impression I got was that people who post here think I posting in this forum under the pseudonym "Chakotay." I am not Chakotay. I have never been Chakotay. I posted this very statement on this site, under my own name with a real email address attached to it, over a year ago. So please remember, all you folks here with too much time on your hands and not enough good sense to spend it any more wisely than this, any remarks made by "Chakotay" are his or hers alone. Not mine. If I wanted to insult someone or attack them, I would break with the cowardly norm on this site, and list my own name and email as I am doing right now. Thanks, Jim Kennelly ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 4176 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 19:10:05 Subject: Cant make the Meeting of the Best of the Best Wed night but you know who I would vote for .Have a good coldone on me,"Best of the Best". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4177 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 21:14:04 Subject: Re: Cant make the Meeting of the Best of the Best : Wed night because you know if they see me I'll be hauled off to the rubber room . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4178 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 21:26:55 Subject: Thank you Jim. I keep telling these people that I'm not you. But they are somewhat paranoid .. as you can see. It's kinda of fun pulling their legs. But if I have caused you any problems , I apologize. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4179 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 21:34:22 Subject: Breaking news !!! DNA testing confirms ... Glazer and Anthony were separated at birth. Two peas in a pod as it were. Wonder who the mother and father were ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4180 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 21:37:36 Subject: What's a jaskie ? Is that the same as a jacka$$kie ? : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now for the real facts. posted Message 4181 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 22:31:45 Subject: Re: Snyder High School BOO Acting Mayor Now for the real facts. Drayton’s girlfriend started booing Acting Mayor Harvey Smith. A few followed in her (sic) steps. But, others started cheering him and more and more joined the crowd who were cheering and applauding Smith. The Cheers grew louder and people stood up and cheered him. So folks, that’s the real story. The original poster is trying to cause trouble and that’s childish. Furthermore that’s the best part of living in a democracy you can boo, you can cheer …we’re all entitled to our opinion and freedom of expression is our right. But, lying to promote his or hers hidden agenda well that’s just childish or should I say typical UTN propaganda. ***************** End Of Article ****************** lol posted Message 4182 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 22:38:13 Subject: Re: What's a jaskie ? : Is that the same as a jacka$$kie ? : : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** WOW posted Message 4183 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 22:41:49 Subject: CRACKERS ?????? you just lost all credibility! : But you know what's really funny? This guy is telling the truth. The clear liquid and all. They keep calling me a fool but that's what crackers do to discredit people when they are a threat. That and killing you is the only way they can shut you up!! : : : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been : exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** What- you gonna kick my A$$? lol real mature posted Message 4184 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 22:43:12 Subject: Re: Put away the crack pipe - - - fool : Call me a fool to my face. I'll show you a fool. : : : You are a fool and I pity you for your ignorance. You see.... the uneducated can be educated. The unwashed can be cleaned. But the ignorant....well you are gonna be ignorant no matter what. I pity you. : : : I am a 26 year old African American male and I have been exposed to politics for most of my life. I have seen alot and learned alot. Enough to know when there is foul play. : : : In my opinion Glenn's death was no coincidence. They killed him. Ray Charles could see that!! They had the means the motive and the hatred in their hearts to commit such a heinous and despicable act like that. Did anyone do an investigation? Do we know why he had a heart attack like that? Ask whoever gave the "child" the cotton candy to give him. They could have sprayed anything on that cotton candy, and Glenn being who he is was going to take it without a thought because it was a child. I mean look where it happened. Robert Menendez is a very EVIL man!!Harvey Smith is an EVIL man but he's too stupid to act on his own.LOL!! Bob Gaughn is a racist redneck drunk. Mary Donnely is just an idiot. These people all have county jobs and are cronies for the Cuban Mafia Boss Menendez who in my opinion ordered the hit. : : : This was the only way these bastards could get control of everything for their benefit. Look at it. Horrible Smith is the acting mayor and council President? R U SERIOUS? He gets hookers on Cornielison ave!! I saw him!! Doria in the Senate and The Dictator back to the house. Hell yeah they killed him. Menendez knew that Glenn was eventually going to do the same thing he did to Doria and Deguise. It's OK though because Harvey Smith is FINISHED in Jersey City and especially with the black community. As a matter of fact ALL of them are finished for what they had a hand in. What is done in the dark WILL eventually come to light!!! Believe me!!!!! God is REAL!!!!! And he will say I AM GOD!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** me posted Message 4185 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 22:55:43 Subject: A thought "Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand." -Margery Williams, "The Velveteen Rabbit" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Morrigan posted Message 4186 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 23:11:43 Subject: Re: Thank you Jim. :::I'm so confused!! : I keep telling these people that I'm not you. But they are somewhat paranoid .. as you can see. It's kinda of fun pulling their legs. But if I have caused you any problems , I apologize. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SUPER RESUE posted Message 4187 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 28, 2004 at 23:23:07 Subject: Re: I am a sick puppy in need of help : : We must find a cure real soon or I will die.Its up to the real Taxpayers to save me and catch while Im not a danger. I WILL SAVE THIS CITY, I WILL LET SANDY AND EUGENE RUN THE CITY ...NO NO THEIR TOO CORRUPT, MAYBE BILL GAUGHAN NO HE'S TOO RACIST, WELL I WILL THAN RUN AS TAXPAYER MAN OR BATMAN, MAYBE SUPERMAN, NANA MAN, BIGFOOT ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4188 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 05:43:16 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** nancy posted Message 4189 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 07:18:37 Subject: Re: Snyder High School BOO Acting Mayor : Now for the real facts. : Drayton’s girlfriend started booing Acting Mayor Harvey Smith. : A few followed in her (sic) steps. : But, others started cheering him and more and more joined the crowd who were cheering and applauding Smith. : The Cheers grew louder and people stood up and cheered him. : So folks, that’s the real story. : The original poster is trying to cause trouble and that’s childish. : Furthermore that’s the best part of living in a democracy you can boo, you can cheer …we’re all entitled to our opinion and freedom of expression is our right. But, lying to promote his or hers hidden agenda well that’s just childish or should I say typical UTN propaganda. I heard Draytons girlfreind have not been to work in two weeks because she broke her foot two weeks before the graduation so why are you blaming her: Wrong person she was not there: ***************** End Of Article ****************** dotty posted Message 4190 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 07:24:24 Subject: Re: Everybody loves Harvey!! : Wow! I really liked your greetings at Snyder's Graduation. Oh I forgot they booed you off the stage!! Ha Ha. You are FINISHED!!!You better go to Cali with your boyfriend Carlton! How does it feel ????? : Wow I really like the greetings also at Snyder High School,lets see what happens at the Landmark Inn this Wednesday, I heard nobody is going to the fund raiser that Mr. Williams is giving: ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4191 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 07:57:17 Subject: GETNJ.com served over 5,400 visitors yesterday. GETNJ.com served over 5,400 visitors yesterday. The daily average is well over 4,000. These figures come from logs automatically generated by the server. And that's individual visitors, not hits. And do keep in mind that every visitor is an individual motivated to read something at the Site. The number of issues printed (or circulated) of a newspaper basically reveals nothing about the actual readership. For over the last decade, the number of people that actually ingest hardcopy has spiralled downwards. Yet the presses are working harder and harder. Curiouser and curiouser. . . In terms of _posters_, Mr. Kennelly might be near the mark. I get the sense that something like 100 different people place a message on the Board at least once month. The number of _readers_ is much, much higher. When wearing my GET NJ t-shirt, it's not unknown for members of the general public to stop me to mention something that they read here. : Hi-- I don't usually waste my time reading this trash. Let's face it, it's basically : the same 40 or 50 people howling lies at each other to get the other's goat. : If someone wants to anonymously slag me here, so be it, I suppose that's the : price of being involved in public service these days. : That said, I was told by someone recently that my name was in a headline in : this forum last week connected to "tasteless" remarks about the late Glenn : Cunningham, so I felt it was important to check out what they were talking : about. : It turned out these "remarks" consisted of one of the regular posters here : named "Chakotay" using the word "croaked" in reference to Glenn : Cunningham's recent passing. The impression I got was that people who post : here think I posting in this forum under the pseudonym "Chakotay." : I am not Chakotay. I have never been Chakotay. I posted this very statement : on this site, under my own name with a real email address attached to it, over a : year ago. So please remember, all you folks here with too much time on your : hands and not enough good sense to spend it any more wisely than this, any : remarks made by "Chakotay" are his or hers alone. Not mine. : If I wanted to insult someone or attack them, I would break with the cowardly : norm on this site, and list my own name and email as I am doing right now. : Thanks, : Jim Kennelly : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** FYI DRAYTON HAS A HERD! posted Message 4192 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 08:09:02 Subject: Re: Snyder High School BOO Acting Mayor : : Now for the real facts. : : Drayton’s girlfriend started booing Acting Mayor Harvey Smith. : : A few followed in her (sic) steps. : : But, others started cheering him and more and more joined the crowd who were cheering and applauding Smith. : : The Cheers grew louder and people stood up and cheered him. : : So folks, that’s the real story. : : The original poster is trying to cause trouble and that’s childish. : : Furthermore that’s the best part of living in a democracy you can boo, you can cheer …we’re all entitled to our opinion and freedom of expression is our right. But, lying to promote his or hers hidden agenda well that’s just childish or should I say typical UTN propaganda. : I heard Draytons girlfreind have not been to work in two : weeks because she broke her foot two weeks before the graduation so why are you blaming her: Wrong person she was not there: ***************** End Of Article ****************** hmmm time to call ghost busters..o' no is Ghost Racist? posted Message 4193 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 08:43:52 Subject: Re: Thank you Jim. : :::I'm so confused!! : : I keep telling these people that I'm not you. But they are somewhat paranoid .. as you can see. It's kinda of fun pulling their legs. But if I have caused you any problems , I apologize. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Keep Up The Good Work posted Message 4194 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 11:42:12 Subject: Nice Letter Chakotay : Hi-- I don't usually waste my time reading this trash. Let's face it, it's basically : the same 40 or 50 people howling lies at each other to get the other's goat. : If someone wants to anonymously slag me here, so be it, I suppose that's the : price of being involved in public service these days. : That said, I was told by someone recently that my name was in a headline in : this forum last week connected to "tasteless" remarks about the late Glenn : Cunningham, so I felt it was important to check out what they were talking : about. : It turned out these "remarks" consisted of one of the regular posters here : named "Chakotay" using the word "croaked" in reference to Glenn : Cunningham's recent passing. The impression I got was that people who post : here think I posting in this forum under the pseudonym "Chakotay." : I am not Chakotay. I have never been Chakotay. I posted this very statement : on this site, under my own name with a real email address attached to it, over a : year ago. So please remember, all you folks here with too much time on your : hands and not enough good sense to spend it any more wisely than this, any : remarks made by "Chakotay" are his or hers alone. Not mine. : If I wanted to insult someone or attack them, I would break with the cowardly : norm on this site, and list my own name and email as I am doing right now. : Thanks, : Jim Kennelly : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4195 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 16:43:06 Subject: Healy For Mayor listing in the 2004 Verizon phone book. The more things change? If you look on page 27 of the 2004 Verizon Jersey City - Bayonne - Hoboken business white page listings you'll see an entry for Healy for Mayor at 653 Newark Avenue. DO NOT DIAL the telephone number you see listed there! I did and the person who answered doesn't know anything about this. As luck would have it, Jerramiah Healy's law office phone number is on the same Page. As Verizon has mispelled his name as "Heally," the law office listing is way above the Healy For Mayor row (but also in the middle column). ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4196 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 17:08:53 Subject: Congressman Menendez's Report to the People TV show On Comcast channel 51, the same two shows -- and only those two shows -- of Congressman Menendez's Report to the People TV show continue to air on Mondays. The one is a very good discussion with Congressman Lewis about the civil rights era. The other show dates from the Clinton-era and covers energy policy. Why do only these two episodes air? Is this true for the other cable systems? Or is only Comcast stuck in a time warp? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 4197 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 17:16:34 Subject: Re: Healy For Mayor listing in the 2004 Verizon phone book. : The more things change? : If you look on page 27 of the 2004 Verizon Jersey City - Bayonne - Hoboken business white page listings you'll see an entry for Healy for Mayor at 653 Newark Avenue. : DO NOT DIAL the telephone number you see listed there! I did and the person who answered doesn't know anything about this. : As luck would have it, Jerramiah Healy's law office phone number is on the same Page. As Verizon has mispelled his name as "Heally," the law office listing is way above the Healy For Mayor row (but also in the middle column). ***************** End Of Article ****************** BB KING posted Message 4198 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 17:19:52 Subject: Re: Healy For Mayor listing in the 2004 Verizon phone book. HEALY FOR MAYOR IS ALSO LISTED UNDER LIQUOR IN THE PHONE BOOK. : : The more things change? : : If you look on page 27 of the 2004 Verizon Jersey City - Bayonne - Hoboken business white page listings you'll see an entry for Healy for Mayor at 653 Newark Avenue. : : DO NOT DIAL the telephone number you see listed there! I did and the person who answered doesn't know anything about this. : : As luck would have it, Jerramiah Healy's law office phone number is on the same Page. As Verizon has mispelled his name as "Heally," the law office listing is way above the Healy For Mayor row (but also in the middle column). ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4199 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 17:52:38 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of June 28, 2004 Lou Manzo's is Pat's guest. To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4200 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 18:45:57 Subject: Same for 2003 The same listing is in the 2003 phone book. : The more things change? : If you look on page 27 of the 2004 Verizon Jersey City - Bayonne - Hoboken business white page listings you'll see an entry for Healy for Mayor at 653 Newark Avenue. : DO NOT DIAL the telephone number you see listed there! I did and the person who answered doesn't know anything about this. : As luck would have it, Jerramiah Healy's law office phone number is on the same Page. As Verizon has mispelled his name as "Heally," the law office listing is way above the Healy For Mayor row (but also in the middle column). ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4201 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 19:13:19 Subject: Hudson County Corruption in the J. V. Kenny Era: The Port Jersey Shakedown The American Way of Graft By George Amich Welcome To Jersey City The simple power of a local government to stall, to misunderstand or misfile or misdirect, to swallow up requests for cooperation in the bowels of the bureaucracy, is a formidable extortion tool. We have seen in Chapter One a variation of this technique - the deliberate holdup of payments owed to vendors or contractors. The stall technique is most effective when the victim is operating within close financial tolerances, with large amounts of money and manpower committed and creditors watching closely for any sign of incipient failure. EZRA SENSIBAR was from Chicago, Ill., and he had heard about Hudson County, N. J., so he knew local governments were not always run by genial and cooperative people. He knew the risks he was running in getting involved in a waterfront development project in Jersey City. All the same, the stakes were big. The city's Hudson River frontage was one of the most inherently valuable pieces of property in New Jersey, and Sensibar and a group of associates had a chance in 1966 to buy a 223-acre piece of it at municipal auction for a low $2.04 million. Much of the land was under water, but Sensibar's company, Construction Aggregates Corp., had the equipment and know-how to dredge and fill and reclaim, so the whole could be developed as an industrial park and containerport. Sensibar, a man of distinguished appearance with a record of business success, decided to get the cards on the table at the outset. He went to John V. Kenny, the county Democratic boss, and announced that his company had only $50,000 invested in the project as of that moment and would walk away from it if the right assurances weren't forthcoming. "I said to him," Sensibar later told the State Commission of Investigation, "that I wanted to be sure that we would get the cooperation that we were entitled to and that nobody would have his hand out; that we wouldn't be harassed." Kenny replied that the so-called Port Jersey plans were "the best thing he had heard, the first spark of development on the waterfront and that he thought that we were doing a great deal more for Jersey City than they could do for us. He said that he would guarantee every form of cooperation by the city, and they wanted us there. And he said that if any son of a b1tch asked for money, to come to him and he would take care of him." Sensibar should have remembered those wise words of Sam Goldwyn: "An oral agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on." John Kenny's promise failed to hold up. Either Kenny had no intention of delivering, or he overestimated his ability to control the city's leaders, who by now had a power base independent of the county organization. . . . To read the rest of the piece, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy for Mayor posted Message 4202 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 21:22:29 Subject: Re: Healy For Mayor listing in the 2004 Verizon phone book. Listed under liquor stores??? Damn...it was supposed to be listed under liquored up.... ;) : HEALY FOR MAYOR IS ALSO LISTED UNDER LIQUOR IN THE PHONE BOOK. : : : : The more things change? : : : If you look on page 27 of the 2004 Verizon Jersey City - Bayonne - Hoboken business white page listings you'll see an entry for Healy for Mayor at 653 Newark Avenue. : : : DO NOT DIAL the telephone number you see listed there! I did and the person who answered doesn't know anything about this. : : : As luck would have it, Jerramiah Healy's law office phone number is on the same Page. As Verizon has mispelled his name as "Heally," the law office listing is way above the Healy For Mayor row (but also in the middle column). ***************** End Of Article ****************** Like Father = Like Son posted Message 4203 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 29, 2004 at 21:57:06 Subject: Crooked Architect = Senator Kenny's Father : The American Way of Graft : By George Amich : Welcome To Jersey City : The simple power of a local government to stall, to misunderstand or misfile or misdirect, to swallow up requests for cooperation in the bowels of the bureaucracy, is a formidable extortion tool. We have seen in Chapter One a variation of this technique - the deliberate holdup of payments owed to vendors or contractors. : The stall technique is most effective when the victim is operating within close financial tolerances, with large amounts of money and manpower committed and creditors watching closely for any sign of incipient failure. : EZRA SENSIBAR was from Chicago, Ill., and he had heard about Hudson County, N. J., so he knew local governments were not always run by genial and cooperative people. He knew the risks he was running in getting involved in a waterfront development project in Jersey City. : All the same, the stakes were big. The city's Hudson River frontage was one of the most inherently valuable pieces of property in New Jersey, and Sensibar and a group of associates had a chance in 1966 to buy a 223-acre piece of it at municipal auction for a low $2.04 million. Much of the land was under water, but Sensibar's company, Construction Aggregates Corp., had the equipment and know-how to dredge and fill and reclaim, so the whole could be developed as an industrial park and containerport. Sensibar, a man of distinguished appearance with a record of business success, decided to get the cards on the table at the outset. He went to John V. Kenny, the county Democratic boss, and announced that his company had only $50,000 invested in the project as of that moment and would walk away from it if the right assurances weren't forthcoming. : "I said to him," Sensibar later told the State Commission of Investigation, "that I wanted to be sure that we would get the cooperation that we were entitled to and that nobody would have his hand out; that we wouldn't be harassed." : Kenny replied that the so-called Port Jersey plans were "the best thing he had heard, the first spark of development on the waterfront and that he thought that we were doing a great deal more for Jersey City than they could do for us. He said that he would guarantee every form of cooperation by the city, and they wanted us there. And he said that if any son of a b1tch asked for money, to come to him and he would take care of him." : Sensibar should have remembered those wise words of Sam Goldwyn: "An oral agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on." John Kenny's promise failed to hold up. Either Kenny had no intention of delivering, or he overestimated his ability to control the city's leaders, who by now had a power base independent of the county organization. : . . . : To read the rest of the piece, please click on the Link. Then Sensibar's partners got the bad news. Their architect, Bernard Kenny (recommended to them by John V., although the two were not related) advised them that "the organization wants five per cent of the total construction cost." Such a payoff would have totaled between $2.5 million and $5 million. Later Thomas Flaherty, the city council president, in direct negotiations lowered the figure to three per cent. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4204 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 06:50:37 Subject: A sick Jersey City can be cured By Good Honest Government, clean streets.and far less crime.Four years of being scan free would also help. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Ix-Nay posted Message 4205 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 07:11:20 Subject: Re: A sick Jersey City can be cured : All we have to do is take the computer away from this damn fool and VOILA! we are cured. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-clean-up posted Message 4206 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 08:46:50 Subject: Why is all the dead-wood still around City Hall Is someone looking for easy votes.You cant fool the UTN Staff.We own this town from now on. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-screw-up posted Message 4207 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 11:04:08 Subject: Re: Why is all the dead-wood still around City Hall : Cause you are still there! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4208 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 11:20:14 Subject: Nah, you're replyin' to dead wood that drifted away ... Nah, you're replyin' to dead wood that drifted away and washed up on some beach down the Shore! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4209 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 13:23:18 Subject: On the Erie: The Jersey City Special Election for Mayor Ear to the breeze, the line-up is Lou Manzo (the only announced candidate, so far), Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith, Jerramiah Healy, Willy Flood, and Jim Carroll. As the incumbent, L. Harvey Smith has the lead. Mayor Smith can use every senior, youth, and cultural affairs event organized by the City as an opportunity to greet the voters. Press conferences, groundbreakings, and other media dabbles can keep Harvey Smith's name and face in front of the voters. It is suggested that -- to some degree -- L. Harvey Smith is the HCDO candidate. Smith also faces hurdles. The brilliantly conceived and perfectly executed Cunningham campaign for Senate (along with an inept HCDO effort) derailed Smith last year. He is still handicapped by that wreckage. L. Harvey Smith will need to run along the rail, praising the memory of Glenn Cunningham while opposing a Cunningham Organization candidate. Though given a head start, at this moment Mayor Smith seems to be standing still, watching others moving towards him. He needs to start running. The rumor is that Sandra Cunningham is running for State Senate in the 31st. If this turns out to be true, I'd suggest to Joe Doria that he use every spare moment between now and election day to work on a really moving concession speech. Part II of this same rumour is that the Cunningham Organization is backing Willy Flood for Mayor. Working to Flood's advantage is that Ward F should see a tremendous turnout to ensure Sandra's Senate triumph. Willy Flood must quickly demonstrate traction in Wards A, B, C, D, and E. If she doesn't do this, it won't be hard for L. Harvey Smith to appeal to the residents Ward F that they shouldn't throw their votes away on a sentimental notion. Both Lou Manzo and Jerramiah Healy are solid contenders. Lou Manzo, though quickly outdistanced by Schundler in the early nineties, exhibited speed and endurance in 2001. Plus, as an Assemblyman, Lou has any number of tools at his disposal for connecting with the media and the residents of the 31st. Counted out of the money by one and all in ninety-seven, Healy managed to put Bret Schundler, then the hands-down favorite, in a run-off. As Councilman-at-Large Healy, can attend in an official capacity all municipal events. It seems that one faction of the HCDO supports Healy. At the moment, the Manzo and Healy groups are doing a very good job of ripping each other apart. As for advancing their own candidate, that doesn't seem to be a priority. And don't do like they did at one Jersey City watering hole and temple to the goddess of chance (though they later obtained forgiveness) and slam the door in the face of a "back stretch" candidate. There was a time when the name SHEIL stared down from every building, but McCann won. Four years later everybody knew that with all the developers, organization and police behind him, Gerry McCann couldn't be beat. Reporters would wander down to the CUCCI FOR MAYOR hq only to pick up a joke story for page 5. But Jerry Mecca showed up with a check for 100k. Immediately Cucci moved to page one and a few months later McCann moved out of 280 Grove. History shows that anyone might become Mayor of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frank Hague's Ghost posted Message 4210 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 13:38:07 Subject: History History shows that anyone might become Mayor of Jersey City. Anyone but Gaynor and Anthony. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hairspray posted Message 4211 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 13:55:47 Subject: Willie Flood for Mayor The concept boggles the mind. The woman hasn't got a brain in her head but damn !!! Her hair looks so fine !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 4212 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 13:59:16 Subject: I dont care what you say-Its Tom Gaynor for Mayor Avon_by-The-Sea will have to give him up for the greater good.Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 4213 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 14:04:54 Subject: Re: Willie Flood for Mayor He is a real nice guy but will not beat Gaughan. : The concept boggles the mind. The man hasn't got a brain in his head but damn !!! His hair looks so fine !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4214 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 15:29:49 Subject: Re: I dont care : Avon_by-The-Sea will have to give him up for the greater good.Jersey City. :::Translation - They are sick and tired of him too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4215 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 16:01:54 Subject: Jersey Journal: HCDO expects a bitter fight over Braker's freeholder seat . . . According to Gaughan, the HCRDC has about 20 more committee seats than the HCDO does in Braker's district, setting the stage for a possible fight. Because of the mayor's death and the uncertain standing of the HCRDC, some committee members may be unsure which camp to join. Joseph Cardwell, a close associate of Cunningham and a spokesman for the HCRDC, said yesterday that Cunningham had several people in mind to succeed Braker if he resigned. Cardwell said the HCRDC will meet tonight at 6, at its headquarters at the corner of Claremont Avenue and Martin Luther King Drive. . . . To read the complete piece, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4216 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 16:16:32 Subject: Report of Mafia meeting in Jersey City (Jersey City, NJ) After two full days of meetings with representatives from the five major crime families, Central Mob Bank Chief Al Giorbilini has decided to raise interest rates on all loans by 5000 basis points to 35.5%. . . . For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BB KING posted Message 4217 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 16:35:10 Subject: HEALY THE FAVORITE? TO DRINK EVERYBODY UNDER THE TABLE ! MAYBE EXCEPT GAUGHAN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Busted Nose posted Message 4218 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 16:35:37 Subject: Re: Report of Mafia meeting in Jersey City There ain't no Mafia....and I'll break anybuddy's legs who says odderwize. Got it?!!! : (Jersey City, NJ) After two full days of meetings with representatives from the five major crime families, Central Mob Bank Chief Al Giorbilini has decided to raise interest rates on all loans by 5000 basis points to 35.5%. : . . . : For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bar Keep posted Message 4219 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 16:37:05 Subject: Re: HEALY THE FAVORITE? If Billy Gaughan gets to the bar first....he will no doubt have s-cked all the bottles dry. : TO DRINK EVERYBODY UNDER THE TABLE ! MAYBE EXCEPT GAUGHAN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BB KING posted Message 4220 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 17:19:01 Subject: Re: HEALY THE FAVORITE? HEALY COULD DEFINITELY DRINK SMITH,MANZO AND FLOOD UNDER THE TABLE. : If Billy Gaughan gets to the bar first....he will no doubt have s-cked all the bottles dry. : : TO DRINK EVERYBODY UNDER THE TABLE ! MAYBE EXCEPT GAUGHAN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jennifer Morrill posted Message 4221 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 17:21:20 Subject: Sandra Cunningham to Announce Foundation's Mission !!!NEWS ADVISORY!!! FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Jennifer Morrill Phone: (917) 572-3572 Sandra Cunningham to Announce Foundation's Mission Jersey City, N.J., June 30, 2004 - Sandra Bolden Cunningham, the wife of the late Jersey City Mayor and State Senator Glenn D. Cunningham, will announce the mission of the Sandra and Glenn Cunningham Foundation during a 10 a.m. press conference on Thursday, July 1, 2004 at the Liberty House Restaurant in Liberty State Park. Mrs. Cunningham will also discuss how she plans to continue the legacy of Glenn Cunningham./////// ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-screw-up posted Message 4222 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 30, 2004 at 19:20:19 Subject: I know, it just sounded funny. That's the only reason I answered that way. :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** shame on us 4 trusting him posted Message 4223 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 00:39:22 Subject: Harvey Smith a rat Ba$tard No more anti- Harvey Smith on Getnj No more anti- Harvey in the UTN Word is he cut a deal with Jackson, Drayton and Cardwell And having Arthur Williams the same Arthur Williams who was involved in the Patti Labelle theft run his fundraisers is classic. Harvey you're as low as the rest. Watch your back Menendez! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BayJIm posted Message 4224 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 00:51:46 Subject: Re: Willie Flood for Mayor Dummy! Willie is a she, not a he! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ?????????????????????????????? posted Message 4225 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 00:51:55 Subject: tom troye Aggressive investors and traders should be watching CorpHQ, Inc. (Pink Sheets:COHQ) this morning! Yesterday after the markets closed, the company issued a press release to further Tuesday's announcement regarding the appointment of Carlton McGee, Sr. as Chief Financial Officer. This could be good news for investors! According to the press release, the company announced its planned expansion to the Manhattan/Jersey City area of the Eastern United States. Mr. McGee most recently served as the Business Administrator for the City of Jersey City, New Jersey, where he managed an annual operating budget exceeding $375 million and assisted the Mayor in direct supervision of all divisions of city government. Mr. McGee operates a government affairs consulting practice in Jersey City, which will be integrated into CorpHQ's East Coast operation. CorpHQ's first portfolio company, My Personal Salon, also operates from offices in New York City. According to a company spokesman, both operations will be housed in the new facility. Keep your eyes on this company! "We are now actively reviewing properties in both Manhattan and Jersey City, and hope to find a suitable location for our East Coast operations within the next 30 days," said Carlton McGee, CorpHQ CFO. "We plan to use the same format used at our Redondo Beach, CA .. Our management personnel will work with portfolio companies on a day to day basis and we will be very 'hands-on.' My initial goal is to accelerate the development and growth of My Personal Salon and I am really looking forward to working with their team." The stock closed yesterday at eight cents a share. In case you are not familiar with the company: Since the inception of its predecessor company in 1993, CorpHQ, Inc. has evolved from an innovative online marketplace and virtual corporation for small and home-based businesses into a business consulting organization and holding company comprised of established and emerging companies. The CorpHQ companies address vertical market segments in the Consumer Products, Services and Technology industries. For additional information please visit the Company's website at http://www.corphq.com. My Personal Salon is the brainchild of advertising guru George Lois and beauty industry veteran Jim Morrison -- the combination of state-of-the-art beauty, apparel and lifestyle product development with profoundly innovative marketing. By merging compelling marketing concepts with cutting-edge products, MPS is creating brands that can outsell nationally advertised names. Stocks showing interesting activity yesterday at the close of the regular trading day were: OraSure Technologies Inc (NASDAQ:OSUR) up 22.4% on 15.5 million shares traded, Avanex Corporation (NASDAQ:AVNX) up 24% on 6 million shares traded and CIENA Corporation (NASDAQ:CIEN) up 13.1% on 46.8 million shares traded. Commentary: "According to research by the Investment Company Institute, U.S. mutual funds at the end of 2003 held 22 percent of all retirement monies in the U.S. This group says that strong stock market returns and new investments lifted mutual fund retirement assets by 28 percent a record $2.7 trillion. Total U.S. retirement assets, which included IRA's, annuities, and employer pension plans reached $12.1 trillion at the end of 2003, up 19 percent from the $10.2 trillion in 2002," stated Sonja Rudd in Wall Street News Alert's daily commentary continued at: http://www.WallStreetNewsAlert.com. WSNA's email alert service is free to those investors who sign up on the WSNA home page. The alert service is designed to notify investors of undervalued and often overlooked stocks. Subscribers are introduced to Special Situation companies that have the potential of showing increased activity. The Wall Street News Alert home page has experienced over 18 million hits. To subscribe to this free service, visit the Wall Street News Alert home page at http://www.wallstreetnewsalert.com and select the "join now" button. Wall Street News Alert is not affiliated with faxes bearing the names Wall Street Stock Alert or Wall Street News Alert! 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SOURCE: Wall Street Capital Funding LLC INVESTMENT OPINION By Staff ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4226 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 05:58:47 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DR-Hic-Cup posted Message 4227 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 06:51:23 Subject: Is Jersey City a better place today then four years ago? Corruption, Scams,Dirty Streets,Crime,You tell me.OH ,for the good ole days.Will they ever return.Bring back Tom Gaynor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DR-Throw-Up posted Message 4228 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 07:52:10 Subject: Re: Is Jersey City a better place today then four years ago? : Corruption, Scams,Dirty Streets,Crime,You tell me.OH ,for the good ole days.Will they ever return.Bring back Tom Gaynor. :::Bring back Tom Gaynor? This idiot, who fed at the public trough his whole working career has the balls to talk about bringing himself back. Yes Tom, we know its u posting to yourself under a lot of different names. Pls stay down in Braindead-bythe-Sea and keep building your sandcastles until one of your manyselves comes to give u your meds. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Read the 2nd half. Another scam! posted Message 4229 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 08:02:32 Subject: Carlton McGee and Steven Glazer Aggressive investors and traders should be watching CorpHQ, Inc. (Pink Sheets:COHQ) this morning! Yesterday after the markets closed, the company issued a press release to further Tuesday's announcement regarding the appointment of Carlton McGee, Sr. as Chief Financial Officer. This could be good news for investors! According to the press release, the company announced its planned expansion to the Manhattan/Jersey City area of the Eastern United States. Mr. McGee most recently served as the Business Administrator for the City of Jersey City, New Jersey, where he managed an annual operating budget exceeding $375 million and assisted the Mayor in direct supervision of all divisions of city government. Mr. McGee operates a government affairs consulting practice in Jersey City, which will be integrated into CorpHQ's East Coast operation. CorpHQ's first portfolio company, My Personal Salon, also operates from offices in New York City. According to a company spokesman, both operations will be housed in the new facility. Keep your eyes on this company! "We are now actively reviewing properties in both Manhattan and Jersey City, and hope to find a suitable location for our East Coast operations within the next 30 days," said Carlton McGee, CorpHQ CFO. "We plan to use the same format used at our Redondo Beach, Ca office. Our management personnel will work with portfolio companies on a day to day basis and we will be very 'hands-on.' My initial goal is to accelerate the development and growth of My Personal Salon and I am really looking forward to working with their team." The stock closed yesterday at eight cents a share. In case you are not familiar with the company: Since the inception of its predecessor company in 1993, CorpHQ, Inc. has evolved from an innovative online marketplace and virtual corporation for small and home-based businesses into a business consulting organization and holding company comprised of established and emerging companies. The CorpHQ companies address vertical market segments in the Consumer Products, Services and Technology industries. For additional information please visit the Company's website at http://www.corphq.com. My Personal Salon is the brainchild of advertising guru George Lois and beauty industry veteran Jim Morrison -- the combination of state-of-the-art beauty, apparel and lifestyle product development with profoundly innovative marketing. By merging compelling marketing concepts with cutting-edge products, MPS is creating brands that can outsell nationally advertised names. Stocks showing interesting activity yesterday at the close of the regular trading day were: OraSure Technologies Inc (NASDAQ:OSUR) up 22.4% on 15.5 million shares traded, Avanex Corporation (NASDAQ:AVNX) up 24% on 6 million shares traded and CIENA Corporation (NASDAQ:CIEN) up 13.1% on 46.8 million shares traded. Commentary: "According to research by the Investment Company Institute, U.S. mutual funds at the end of 2003 held 22 percent of all retirement monies in the U.S. This group says that strong stock market returns and new investments lifted mutual fund retirement assets by 28 percent a record $2.7 trillion. Total U.S. retirement assets, which included IRA's, annuities, and employer pension plans reached $12.1 trillion at the end of 2003, up 19 percent from the $10.2 trillion in 2002," stated Sonja Rudd in Wall Street News Alert's daily commentary continued at: http://www.WallStreetNewsAlert.com. 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SOURCE: Wall Street Capital Funding LLC INVESTMENT OPINION By Staff ***************** End Of Article ****************** IS THIS TRUE? posted Message 4230 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 08:09:43 Subject: Re: Harvey Smith a rat Ba$tard : No more anti- Harvey Smith on Getnj : No more anti- Harvey in the UTN : Word is he cut a deal with Jackson, Drayton and Cardwell : And having Arthur Williams the same Arthur Williams who was involved in the Patti Labelle theft run his fundraisers is classic. : Harvey you're as low as the rest. : Watch your back Menendez! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4231 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 08:19:48 Subject: Tom DeGise will do the right thing For Jersey City Stick with him.PS -Avon -By-The-Sea is one beautiful place to live. You should see the sun coming up over the water this morning.Nothing like a hot cup of coffee,roll,and a paper.No Crime.No dirty streets,no corruption.Just the good life.Have a great day and remember, stick with Tom DeGise. He is honest and he has a brain.Case Closed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4232 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 08:59:16 Subject: Re: Tom DeGise will do the right thing For Jersey City : Stick with him.Hes moving to -Avon -By-The-Sea cause its one beautiful place to live. You should see the sun coming up over the water this morning.Nothing like a hot cup of coffee,roll,and a paper. A haven for those who feed at the public trough.Just the good life. He will join me in my therapy. Though I will never get my county job back he feels sorrrry for me so he will move down to build sandcastles with me as part of my rehab. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 4233 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 09:15:40 Subject: Tom Gaynor is right -on about Tom DeGise DeGise is smart and he is honest.What a rare combination for Jersey City politics.I will stick with tom DeGise ***************** End Of Article ****************** Question? posted Message 4234 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 09:33:29 Subject: Re: Sandra Cunningham to Announce Foundation's Mission : !!!NEWS ADVISORY!!! : FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE : Contact: Jennifer Morrill : Phone: (917) 572-3572 Thta's odd ,doesn't Jennifer work in the Mayors office? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4235 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 09:58:36 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor is right -on about Tom DeGise : DeGise is smart. He avoids the Avon-bythe-Seas village idiot like the plague. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4236 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 09:58:41 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor is right -on about Tom DeGise : DeGise is smart. He avoids the Avon-bythe-Seas village idiot like the plague. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4237 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 10:16:13 Subject: Jersey City is very sick right now Maybe Tom DeGise & tom Gaynor could cure it with some good government. It couldnt hurt. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 4238 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 10:24:31 Subject: OK-I will join the crowd-I support the two TOMs Gaynor & DeGise also.Good government is the way to go in JC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Ix-Nay posted Message 4239 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 13:07:55 Subject: Re: Jersey City is very now : Maybe Tom DeGise & tom Gaynor could build some good sandcastles. It couldnt hurt. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val aint a Gal posted Message 4240 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 13:09:01 Subject: Re: OK-I will join the crowd-I support the two TOMs : Gaynor & DeGise at the beach to help TOM Gaynor with his rehab. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BB KING posted Message 4241 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 13:28:21 Subject: HEALY TO BE ENDORSED BY BUDWEISER, THE KING OF BEERS ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseMidge posted Message 4242 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 13:42:08 Subject: Churchill drank alot-He was a great leader So ,what is your point about Healy &Gaughan?We must cure JC of its sickness,"Corruption". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandra and Glenn Cunningham Foundation posted Message 4243 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 14:42:14 Subject: Sandra Cunningham Announces Foundation’s Mission FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Sandra Cunningham Announces Foundation’s Mission Jersey City, N.J., July 1, 2004 – Sandra Bolden Cunningham, the wife of the late Jersey City Mayor and State Senator Glenn D. Cunningham, today announces the renewed mission of the Sandra and Glenn Cunningham Foundation to continue Mayor Cunningham’s legacy through the foundation they created. “In my time of mourning and healing, I want everyone to know how much I appreciate their love and support,” said Mrs. Cunningham. “I also want to thank the thousands of people who sent letters and cards, letting me know how they feel about Glenn, as well as those who have already contributed to this foundation as a way of continuing his great work and legacy.” The Sandra and Glenn Cunningham Foundation was initially formed three years ago when Glenn Cunningham became Jersey City’s first African-American mayor. Its aim is to provide educational opportunities for youth, including scholarships and special youth programs, as well as services for city residents. One developing Foundation scholarship fund will provide financial aid to C-level students who want to attend college but might otherwise be overlooked. The Foundation aims to not only provide these students with the monetary assistance they need to pursue higher education, but also the motivation and hope they require to achieve this goal, Mrs. Cunningham said. In addition, the Sandra and Glenn Cunningham Foundation will also provide a computer to each of the senior citizen buildings in Jersey City, so that the seniors can learn to use the Internet and communicate with their families. “Glenn spent a lot of time visiting with seniors across the city and this was something he wanted done,” Mrs. Cunningham said. “He felt that if the seniors were given the opportunity to use computers and the Internet, they would take advantage of that and the whole world of learning and opportunities it provides.” In addition to working with the foundation, Mrs. Cunningham said she will also strive to empower young people to be more community and civic minded, and teach them to use the ballot as a way of improving their community. “Voting makes a difference, especially if you want to have an influence on how we live,” Mrs. Cunningham said. “Glenn’s life was a testimony to that. Glenn Cunningham firmly believed that all politics is local. He also believed he could make people’s lives better. That’s his legacy.” Mrs. Cunningham said she is excited to begin working on continuing Glenn’s legacy, as it is how Glenn will continue to make an impact on the residents of Jersey City. “I encourage those people who believed in Glenn to stay active in the community and to get involved in the causes he believed in, such as youth and education, and to take pride in their history and heritage, because that is how we can make this city better,” Mrs. Cunningham said. The Sandra and Glenn Cunningham Foundation is located at 22 Willow Street, Jersey City, NJ 07305. Donations will be used for scholarships, youth education and other quality of life programs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BB KING posted Message 4244 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 14:44:39 Subject: Re: HEALY AND GAUGHAN-Churchill drank alot- : So ,what is your point about Healy &Gaughan?We must cure JC of its sickness,"Corruption". THE ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF CORRUPTION IN JERSEY CITY/HUDSON COUNTY IS TO TOPPLE THE HCDO. THE HCDO ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR OWN INTRESTS...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4245 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 14:45:41 Subject: Sandra Cunningham's Press Connference This morning's press conference focused on upcoming charitable and community service activities. In response to a reporter's question, Mrs. Cunningham said that she is not ruling out running for office, but has not decided to do so. Within the next few hours, I hope to post a video of the press conference. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Community Support posted Message 4246 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 15:58:58 Subject: Cunningham Foundation The Foundation has $40,000 for Charitable Purposes..... http://www.nj.com/newsflash/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1088711060270440.xml&storylist=jersey ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4247 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 16:55:24 Subject: Online Video: Sandra Cunningham's Press Conference This morning's press conference focused on upcoming charitable and community service activities. In response to a reporter's question, Mrs. Cunningham said that she is not ruling out running for office, but has not decided to do so. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseSmidge posted Message 4248 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 17:25:39 Subject: Re: Churchill drank alot-He was a great leader : So ,what is your point about Healy &Gaughan?We must cure JC of its sickness,"Corruption". ::::You are a total idiot Gaynor! How dare you even compare the others with Churchill! You are a worthless braindead piece of crap. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4249 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 18:53:19 Subject: Ron Dario, Sr. Passed Away Yesterday Ron Dario, Sr., Frmr. Assemblyman and Past Hudson County Republican Party Chair, passed away on Wednesday. In the photo (taken during an '88 campaign stop in Union City), Ron Dario is to the right of Vice President Bush. Jose Arango stands to the left. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vinnie Boombotts posted Message 4250 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 21:47:22 Subject: Careful Anthony Or youse will be sleepin wit da fishes !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** yes it's true posted Message 4251 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 01, 2004 at 22:30:31 Subject: Re: Harvey Smith a rat Ba$tard : : No more anti- Harvey Smith on Getnj : : No more anti- Harvey in the UTN : : Word is he cut a deal with Jackson, Drayton and Cardwell : : And having Arthur Williams the same Arthur Williams who was involved in the Patti Labelle theft run his fundraisers is classic. : : Harvey you're as low as the rest. : : Watch your back Menendez! ***************** End Of Article ****************** typical posted Message 4252 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2004 at 00:15:09 Subject: Re: Carlton McGee and Steven Glazer This profile is not without bias, and is a paid release. 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You are cautioned that such statements are subject to a multitude of risks and uncertainties that could cause future circumstances, events, or results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements, including the risks that actual results may differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors, and other risks identified in a companies' annual report on Form 10-K or 10-KSB and other filings made by such company with the Securities and Exchange Commission. You should consider these factors in evaluating the forward-looking statements included herein, and not place undue reliance on such statements. The forward-looking statements in this release are made as of the date hereof and WSCF undertakes no obligation to update such statements. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 4253 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2004 at 07:54:52 Subject: Tom Gaynor &Avon-By-The-Sea I just left Tom on the beach as the sun is coming up over the water with a cup of coffee,paper ans a roll.He sure looks happy and content .No crime, No dirty Streets No Political Corruption.This to can happen to Jersey city with your Vote, Vote for Honest government ,and that is what you will get. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4254 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2004 at 07:59:12 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor &Avon-By-The-Sea : I just left Tom on the beach as the sun is coming up over the water with a cup of coffee,paper ans a roll.He sure looks happy and content . Of course, someone without a braincell in his head would. Cripes! i am getting tired of his mindless babble. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4255 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2004 at 08:50:13 Subject: I agree with NurseBetsy Only if you vote for good Government will youget it.What Time Did Tom Go to the beach this Morning?I would like to take to him about the Meeting Wed Night by the "Best Of the Best" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ix-Nay posted Message 4256 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2004 at 08:53:09 Subject: Re: I agree with NurseBetsy : What Time Did Tom Go to the beach this Morning? Obviously not early enough since you, Tom, and your many personalites still have time to show what a compleat doofus you are by posting your mindles drivel on this board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** God Rest His Soul posted Message 4257 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2004 at 09:22:34 Subject: Ron - Used And Thrown Away by Boss Menendez Ron Dario was one of the many Good Guys used, abused and thrown away by Boss Menendez. : Ron Dario, Sr., Frmr. Assemblyman and Past Hudson County Republican Party Chair, passed away on Wednesday. : In the photo (taken during an '88 campaign stop in Union City), Ron Dario is to the right of Vice President Bush. Jose Arango stands to the left. ***************** End Of Article ****************** icu posted Message 4258 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2004 at 12:22:28 Subject: Re: Willie Flood for Mayor : Dummy! Willie is a she, not a he! I'll vote for Willie Flood for mayor or even president if she publicly explains why she allows Hague St. between the Boulevard and Nelson Avenue to continue to go unpaved. Yo, Willie, that's in the Heights. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 4259 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2004 at 12:57:02 Subject: A race Between Lou Manzo &Jerry Healy forJC Mayor Would be super for Jersey City Taxpayers. Whoever wins would do a great Job as Mayor of Jersey City. It would be a Win -Win For our Great Town.So saids Tom Gaynor on the beach in Avon_by_the-Sea this morning. ***************** End Of Article ****************** From Jersey Journal posted Message 4260 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2004 at 13:16:26 Subject: Menendez Screaming Match - Dario In Tears Ron Dario, 66; rode political whirlwind Once an ally, fought Menendez for mayoralty Friday, July 02, 2004 By Agustin C. Torres Former Republican state Assemblyman and Union City Commissioner Ronald A. Dario, 66, died Wednesday at Paul Kimble Hospital, Lakewood, following a heart attack. Dario, a protégé of former North Hudson political boss William V. Musto, was a sponsor of several key state bills, including the takeover of the Jersey City school system and what would eventually become the Distressed Cities program. Those who knew Dario expressed shock at his death and said they would miss a man described as loving life and who was always optimistic, even under stressful situations. Most of them were aware that over the years he had undergone two quadruple coronary bypasses and recently had a stent inserted, but said that he was still always upbeat. "I knew Ron when I was a firefighter and he was a good person," said Hoboken Mayor David Roberts. "My condolences go to his family." Jose Arango, Hudson County Republican chairman and an employee of the Jersey City Department of Housing, Economic Development and Commerce, recalled meeting Dario for the first time when he was paired with him by Tom Kean's gubernatorial election campaign in 1985. Arango and Dario became GOP Assembly candidates for the 33rd Legislative District and won on Kean's slate. "It was like a father and son relationship," said Arango. "I was 25 years old when I became an assemblyman. "Ron was so energetic, emotional. I learned a lot about dealing with people from him. I was shocked when I heard he died. He was a character, a good man, and I'll miss him." In his one two-year term in the Assembly, Dario's name was on several important pieces of legislation. Arango said that Dario, an educator, felt it was necessary to co-sponsor the bill that took over the failing Jersey City schools. While also a Union City commissioner, Dario was the driving force in getting more than $1 million in state funds to help save several hundred municipal jobs, including those in public safety. The bill he introduced was the basis for the statewide Distressed Cities program. Dario and then-31st District Assemblyman Charles Catrillo, R-Jersey City, co-sponsored 1987 legislation that prevented the warehousing of empty apartments by landlords during a statewide wave of condominium conversions that saw tenants forced out of homes. Catrillo died earlier this year. Born in 1937, Dario, a Hoboken native, attended Demarest High School, where he was an all-county athlete in football, basketball and baseball. He was set to play football for Arizona State University, but a rule that prevented ballplayers from marrying forced him to transfer to Wagner College in Staten Island, where he was a four-year starter. The Seahawks went undefeated in 1964, winning the NCAA Division III national championship. He also married Claire Mastropierro. Dario moved to Union City in 1960 and became a teacher in Hoboken after graduating from college. He caught the attention of Musto, who was the state's senior senator. Dario ran with the Union City Your Operation Uplift (YOU) team for a commission seat in 1974, defeating the Project 70 administration of Mayor William Meehan. Among those YOU members were Robert Menendez, now a congressman and chairman of the House Democratic Caucus; Bruce Walter, who would one day become the county Democratic Party chairman; Abraham Antun, now the Hudson County administrator; Donald Scarinci, who is today one of the state's most influential attorneys; and Thomas V. Highton, who recently retired as Union City's superintendent of schools. All these people would break from Musto after he was indicted in 1980 by a federal grand jury on racketeering charges involving a scheme to siphon federal construction funding for the city's two high schools. During the YOU schism, Dario, a recreation and public properties commissioner, had part of the Mayor's Office walled off, prompting commissioners loyal to Musto to strip him of his duties. The YOU rebels formed the Alliance Civic Association and lost the 1982 municipal election to Musto the day after their mentor was convicted in the state's longest federal criminal trial. Alliance then gained control of the Board of Education and Dario won his Assembly seat and took an aide: Brian P. Stack, now the city's mayor and a state assemblyman. In 1986, Alliance defeated Mayor Arthur Wichert and what remained of the Musto loyalists - and this is where Dario's political problems began. When it was time to swear in the victorious commission members, Dario expected to be named mayor. It was why he had given up the principal's job at Roosevelt School in Union City a few days before tenure, and why he battled to obtain state funding for the fiscally challenged city. Walter and Menendez denied making any deals with Dario and there was a back room screaming match that ended with Dario in tears. With supporters chanting in the streets and City Hall, Menendez was named the city's first Cuban-American mayor and there was a split in the new administration. Dario's political career ended when his ticket lost the 1990 municipal election to Alliance. Menendez yesterday focused on Dario's contributions as recreation commissioner. "Ron wrote a new chapter in recreation for Union City children. It's one of his legacies that he cared greatly for kids." Dario returned to Hoboken, where he had begun as a teacher, and became a physical education instructor and started a golf club and school team. He retired a few years ago and moved to Manchester five years ago. As a memorial, his family will start a scholarship for graduating Hoboken High School seniors, according to his son Ronald Dario Jr., an attorney. Mass for Dario will be at 10 a.m. Monday at St. Ann's Church, Hoboken. He is additionally survived by his wife, Claire; two daughters, Laurie Blake and Cheryl Conklin; two sisters, Lorraine Ryan and Carol Miller; and three grandchildren, Tyler and Conner Blake, and Abigail Conklin. Leber Funeral Home, Union City, ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val ain't a Gal posted Message 4261 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2004 at 13:26:15 Subject: Re: A race Between Lou Manzo &Jerry Healy forJC Mayor : Would be super for Jersey City Taxpayers. Whoever wins would do a great Job as Mayor of Jersey City. It would be a Win -Win For our Great Town.So saids Tom Gaynor on the beach in Avon_by_the-Sea this morning. A braindead drooling idiot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 4262 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2004 at 19:10:01 Subject: Letter from Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith Letter from Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yeah Right posted Message 4263 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 02, 2004 at 19:14:38 Subject: Tom Gaynor's Hopeless Dribble You're a washed up old political hack Gaynor. And even the mention of your name here proves you are nothing more than a self-promoting slime. : I just left Tom on the beach as the sun is coming up over the water with a cup of coffee,paper ans a roll.He sure looks happy and content .No crime, No dirty Streets No Political Corruption.This to can happen to Jersey city with your Vote, Vote for Honest government ,and that is what you will get. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4264 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2004 at 07:55:33 Subject: You get the Kind of Government you vote for. Another murder yesterday in our fair Jersey City.Political corruption is out of hand and our streets are dirty as hell.In november ,it will be your last chance tostop this decline in the quality of life you deserve.Vote with your head not your behind.That is the cure for this very sick city of ours. ***************** End Of Article ****************** rumors not true posted Message 4265 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2004 at 08:33:04 Subject: Re: Harvey Smith a rat Ba$tard : : : No more anti- Harvey Smith on Getnj citizen loves harvey : : : No more anti- Harvey in the UTN maybe not yet he did not make a deal with Ms Cunningham, Drayton and Cardwell all three are the scum of the earth. : : : And having Arthur Williams the same Arthur Williams who was involved in the Patti Labelle theft run his fundraisers is classic. Arthur Williams is a great guy who was used by the four horsemen who destroyed this city. Ms Cunningham, Drayton and Cardwell and Jackson. : : : Harvey you're as low as the rest. : : : Watch your back Menendez! ***************** End Of Article ****************** johnboy posted Message 4266 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2004 at 09:01:32 Subject: Re: Letter from Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith : Letter from Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith this looks like a copy letter of Glenn D. Cunningham's what a way to go Harvey ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ix-Nay posted Message 4267 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2004 at 10:46:41 Subject: Re: You get the Kind of Government you vote for. : One more time A$$HOLE! U left Jersey City years ago after u $ucked the teat u were at dry. U were part of the corruption that made Jersey City what it is today. So keep building your sandcastles u braindead twit. Not even your HCDO "friends" want anything to do with u. Talk about sick. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Clawed His Way posted Message 4268 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2004 at 12:44:03 Subject: Menendez Screws Everyone Menendez Clawed his way up the political ladder - Using and betraying anyone he could possibly benefit from. From Bill Musto, then Dario, EVEN HIS OWN WIFE JANE WAS USED AND THROWN AWAY- the list is long and ongoing. The latest gaul of Boss Menendez is to proclaim hinself in his political ads as "Our Champion" Who knows who the next Menendez Victim will be ? Perhaps one should ask Joe Barry. : Ron Dario, 66; rode political whirlwind : Once an ally, fought Menendez for mayoralty : Friday, July 02, 2004 : By Agustin C. Torres : Former Republican state Assemblyman and Union City Commissioner Ronald A. Dario, 66, died Wednesday at Paul Kimble Hospital, Lakewood, following a heart attack. : Dario, a protégé of former North Hudson political boss William V. Musto, was a sponsor of several key state bills, including the takeover of the Jersey City school system and what would eventually become the Distressed Cities program. : Those who knew Dario expressed shock at his death and said they would miss a man described as loving life and who was always optimistic, even under stressful situations. Most of them were aware that over the years he had undergone two quadruple coronary bypasses and recently had a stent inserted, but said that he was still always upbeat. : : "I knew Ron when I was a firefighter and he was a good person," said Hoboken Mayor David Roberts. "My condolences go to his family." : : Jose Arango, Hudson County Republican chairman and an employee of the Jersey City Department of Housing, Economic Development and Commerce, recalled meeting Dario for the first time when he was paired with him by Tom Kean's gubernatorial election campaign in 1985. : Arango and Dario became GOP Assembly candidates for the 33rd Legislative District and won on Kean's slate. : "It was like a father and son relationship," said Arango. "I was 25 years old when I became an assemblyman. : "Ron was so energetic, emotional. I learned a lot about dealing with people from him. I was shocked when I heard he died. He was a character, a good man, and I'll miss him." : In his one two-year term in the Assembly, Dario's name was on several important pieces of legislation. : Arango said that Dario, an educator, felt it was necessary to co-sponsor the bill that took over the failing Jersey City schools. : While also a Union City commissioner, Dario was the driving force in getting more than $1 million in state funds to help save several hundred municipal jobs, including those in public safety. The bill he introduced was the basis for the statewide Distressed Cities program. : Dario and then-31st District Assemblyman Charles Catrillo, R-Jersey City, co-sponsored 1987 legislation that prevented the warehousing of empty apartments by landlords during a statewide wave of condominium conversions that saw tenants forced out of homes. Catrillo died earlier this year. : Born in 1937, Dario, a Hoboken native, attended Demarest High School, where he was an all-county athlete in football, basketball and baseball. He was set to play football for Arizona State University, but a rule that prevented ballplayers from marrying forced him to transfer to Wagner College in Staten Island, where he was a four-year starter. : The Seahawks went undefeated in 1964, winning the NCAA Division III national championship. He also married Claire Mastropierro. : Dario moved to Union City in 1960 and became a teacher in Hoboken after graduating from college. He caught the attention of Musto, who was the state's senior senator. Dario ran with the Union City Your Operation Uplift (YOU) team for a commission seat in 1974, defeating the Project 70 administration of Mayor William Meehan. : Among those YOU members were Robert Menendez, now a congressman and chairman of the House Democratic Caucus; Bruce Walter, who would one day become the county Democratic Party chairman; Abraham Antun, now the Hudson County administrator; Donald Scarinci, who is today one of the state's most influential attorneys; and Thomas V. Highton, who recently retired as Union City's superintendent of schools. : All these people would break from Musto after he was indicted in 1980 by a federal grand jury on racketeering charges involving a scheme to siphon federal construction funding for the city's two high schools. : During the YOU schism, Dario, a recreation and public properties commissioner, had part of the Mayor's Office walled off, prompting commissioners loyal to Musto to strip him of his duties. : The YOU rebels formed the Alliance Civic Association and lost the 1982 municipal election to Musto the day after their mentor was convicted in the state's longest federal criminal trial. Alliance then gained control of the Board of Education and Dario won his Assembly seat and took an aide: Brian P. Stack, now the city's mayor and a state assemblyman. : In 1986, Alliance defeated Mayor Arthur Wichert and what remained of the Musto loyalists - and this is where Dario's political problems began. : When it was time to swear in the victorious commission members, Dario expected to be named mayor. It was why he had given up the principal's job at Roosevelt School in Union City a few days before tenure, and why he battled to obtain state funding for the fiscally challenged city. : Walter and Menendez denied making any deals with Dario and there was a back room screaming match that ended with Dario in tears. With supporters chanting in the streets and City Hall, Menendez was named the city's first Cuban-American mayor and there was a split in the new administration. : Dario's political career ended when his ticket lost the 1990 municipal election to Alliance. : Menendez yesterday focused on Dario's contributions as recreation commissioner. "Ron wrote a new chapter in recreation for Union City children. It's one of his legacies that he cared greatly for kids." : Dario returned to Hoboken, where he had begun as a teacher, and became a physical education instructor and started a golf club and school team. ***************** End Of Article ****************** O' please.... great guy. Tell it to the judge! posted Message 4269 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2004 at 13:38:39 Subject: Re: Harvey Smith a rat Ba$tard : : : : No more anti- Harvey Smith on Getnj citizen loves harvey : : : : No more anti- Harvey in the UTN maybe not yet : he did not make a deal with Ms Cunningham, Drayton and Cardwell all three are the scum of the earth. : : : : And having Arthur Williams the same Arthur Williams who was involved in the Patti Labelle theft run his fundraisers is classic. : Arthur Williams is a great guy who was used by the four horsemen who destroyed this city. Ms Cunningham, Drayton and Cardwell and Jackson. : : : : Harvey you're as low as the rest. : : : : Watch your back Menendez! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BadThief posted Message 4270 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2004 at 15:29:29 Subject: Why the makeup between UTN &H.Smith? Could it be about money & Power?Who got what on who?Jersey City to take it on the chin on this one.Right now corruption has the upper leg in the City.November will tell the story,if Jersey city will Die or Live.Deals and scams is a way of life down at Grove street right now.Lets name a Street after Corruption or the UTN building would be a proper place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sad Thief posted Message 4271 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2004 at 17:49:20 Subject: Re: Why Us? : Could it be about finding out which one of these idiots is the real Tom Gayonr?Who is who?Jersey City to take it on the chin on this one.Right now Tom Gaynor has the upper leg in the City.November will tell the story,if Jersey city will figure it out or not.Deals and scams is a way of life to Tom right now.Lets name a Street after him or the UTN building would be a proper place. We could call it A$$HOLE Alley. Yeah, thats the ticket. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Birds Of A Feather posted Message 4272 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2004 at 19:21:12 Subject: Wall Street Shenanigans - Menendez & Grasso SCAM ARTISTS - Boss Robert Menendez and the Disgraced Former Chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, Richard Grasso. Grasso is under investigation for numerous Wall Street Stock Scams and Ripoffs. Menendez & Grasso = Perfect Together http://www.naaonline.org/images/2002%20Wall%20Street%20Summit/4-4.jpg ***************** End Of Article ****************** Breaking News posted Message 4273 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2004 at 20:23:48 Subject: Give me a break! Wow that’s incredible….you found a photo opt picture. How about, posting the one with Grasso and Bret Schundler. What you only got enough money to back off of-----? Is this Getnj way of saying Pay me and I won't post bad things! You're lower than an earth worm. And a hell of a lot uglier! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Joe Barry posted Message 4274 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2004 at 20:44:10 Subject: Pictures Speak Louder Than Words Pictures speak louder than words. COMMING ATTRACTIONS INCLUDE BOSS MENENDEZ & JOE BARRY. : SCAM ARTISTS - Boss Robert Menendez and the Disgraced Former Chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, Richard Grasso. : Grasso is under investigation for numerous Wall Street Stock Scams and Ripoffs. : Menendez & Grasso = Perfect Together : http://www.naaonline.org/images/2002%20Wall%20Street%20Summit/4-4.jpg ***************** End Of Article ****************** GEEZE......YOU totally miss the point posted Message 4275 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 03, 2004 at 21:02:36 Subject: Re: Why the makeup between UTN &H.Smith? Of course its about Power. But more importantly its about pieces of a power puzzle that still can't provide a complete picture until its put together. Right now...its in pieces. Smith needs guaranteed CASH and brothers Bobbdy and Joe need a candidate. They need each other. Simple as that. You think Harvey trusts the HCDO to deliver for him if Manzo, Healy or O'Dea make a decent showing in a poll? That and a little arm twisting and the HCDO says....SORRY HARVEY...we ain't gonna waste our money on YOU. So L Harvey Smith needs BACK UP CASH. Enter Bobby and Joe....and no doubt the former First Lady (no disrespect Sandra) and crew to help Harvey with CUnningham CASH. Thus he may be able to hold onto something he can't hold onto without help. If he's done a poll ...which I am sure he has.... he knows he has no chance against his postential contenders. So then .... Bad Thief.....sorry....this has NOTHING to do with WHO has WHAT on WHO. It IS about holding onto power in the face of what will soon become very clear .... insurmountable odds as the HCDO steps away from brother Harvey and selects from what they will say is a more "universal" candidate. ******************************************************** : Could it be about money & Power? Who got what on who? Jersey City to take it on the chin on this one.Right now corruption has the upper leg in the City.November will tell the story,if Jersey city will Die or Live.Deals and scams is a way of life down at Grove street right now.Lets name a Street after Corruption or the UTN building would be a proper place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4276 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 06:31:49 Subject: The image was not posted by GETNJ.com. : Wow that’s incredible….you found a photo opt picture. : How about, posting the one with Grasso and Bret Schundler. : What you only got enough money to back off of-----? : Is this Getnj way of saying Pay me and I won't post bad things! : You're lower than an earth worm. : And a hell of a lot uglier! The image was not posted by GETNJ.com. Certainly, the public has every right to see it. There's no reason for it to be removed. I'd hope that voters take ALL puff photos with a grain if salt. The photo comes from a the Web Site of a Hispanic philanthropic organization. DO visit the Web Site Link below for more information. GETNJ.com does sell ads. I've NEVER suggested to any group or individual that ad dollars will affect or effect content or editorial policy. If that's what anyone expects, then definitely DO NOT advertise here! On a number of occasions, I have contacted Congressman Menendez's representatives to encourage them to send their information to GETNJ.com. I can't remember ever suggesting that they buy ads. The public is welcome to post here. Except through the removal of obnoxious messages, GETNJ.com has no control over that content. I post material based on my perception of importance and viability of the effort. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TheMerger-Harvey Smith UTN posted Message 4277 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 06:47:31 Subject: Peaces in our time?$$$$$$$$$- Tell me how this helps the good Citizens of Jersey City. Maybe i will see the light .Why Scams a good for us i will never figure out..Wake up jC taxpayers.They are driving us into a big financial mud hole that we will never get out of. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Really you are so ill informed posted Message 4278 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 07:37:18 Subject: Re: Wall Street Shenanigans - Menendez & Grasso Grasso has done nothing but his job as authorized by the Board of Directors of the New York Stock Exchange. Menendez removed the embargo barrier from the Sudan and allowed Gum Arabic to be purchased from Osama's farms in the Sudan. Menendez funded terrorism he is a traitor and has the blood of Americans on his hands and in his bank accounts bith on and offshore. Grasso recieved a fat pay check that was well known. Also one of the reasons Grasso was brought out of the dark and into the light was he refused to bow to one Ned Johnson the Bostonian who owns Fidelity or FMR Corp. Grasso was brought under pressue to change the rules of the NYSE Order Execution system for the Billion Dollar Boys of Boston. Well FMR will get what they have coming to them eventually. Grasso might have taken too much but it was given by the board Menendez's removing of import restrictions on Osama's Gum Arabic was legal as well. I ask you how many people where killed by these two legal actions Grasso had zero body count, Menendez 15,000 and still growing Thanks Congressman we love the job your doing for the terrorist. : SCAM ARTISTS - Boss Robert Menendez and the Disgraced Former Chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, Richard Grasso. : Grasso is under investigation for numerous Wall Street Stock Scams and Ripoffs. : Menendez & Grasso = Perfect Together : http://www.naaonline.org/images/2002%20Wall%20Street%20Summit/4-4.jpg ***************** End Of Article ****************** What Harvey does not know is the UTN has no ability to deliver now posted Message 4279 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 07:46:25 Subject: Re: Why the makeup between UTN &H.Smith? Bobby and Joe couldn't deliver milk if they where cows. The UTN has seen better days. It stands to reason you cannot run a newspaper without journalist and cannot use the journalist to leverage you access to a mayor and sell that access to commerical real estate owners for $1,000,000 per month. The access is over you killed the golden goose you ate the journalist that provided the leverage. Joe and Bobbi should think about hiring and actually paying a journalist and stop trying to buy candidates. Consulting Contracts for access to the mayor based on the ability to organize and mobilize voters using a newspaper with no journalist will never work. You need money to make money. Harvey should know that the UTN is dead because the owners took more than they should have. : Of course its about Power. But more importantly its about pieces of a power puzzle that still can't provide a complete picture until its put together. Right now...its in pieces. Smith needs guaranteed CASH and brothers Bobbdy and Joe need a candidate. They need each other. Simple as that. : You think Harvey trusts the HCDO to deliver for him if Manzo, Healy or O'Dea make a decent showing in a poll? That and a little arm twisting and the HCDO says....SORRY HARVEY...we ain't gonna waste our money on YOU. : So L Harvey Smith needs BACK UP CASH. Enter Bobby and Joe....and no doubt the former First Lady (no disrespect Sandra) and crew to help Harvey with CUnningham CASH. Thus he may be able to hold onto something he can't hold onto without help. If he's done a poll ...which I am sure he has.... he knows he has no chance against his postential contenders. : So then .... Bad Thief.....sorry....this has NOTHING to do with WHO has WHAT on WHO. It IS about holding onto power in the face of what will soon become very clear .... insurmountable odds as the HCDO steps away from brother Harvey and selects from what they will say is a more "universal" candidate. : ******************************************************** : : Could it be about money & Power? Who got what on who? Jersey City to take it on the chin on this one.Right now corruption has the upper leg in the City.November will tell the story,if Jersey city will Die or Live.Deals and scams is a way of life down at Grove street right now.Lets name a Street after Corruption or the UTN building would be a proper place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GoodTimes posted Message 4280 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 08:04:02 Subject: The Endorsement-ODea & Manzo Bill Odea backs his good friend Lou Manzo for Mayor of JC.Pick up your chips and go home gang. The party is over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Easy Money posted Message 4281 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 08:17:40 Subject: All pay no work--UTN work force Is this why all UTN employees are still on the city payroll? The big deal between Harvey & UTN for future scams? ***************** End Of Article ****************** WarMonger posted Message 4282 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 10:24:14 Subject: You forget the war chest You forget about GDC's war chest. He had millions in his fund and that is now in the hands of none other than SANDY. Gee....you think Harvey may want to get his hands on some of that there green? Then he gotta cow tow to BobbyJoe. And name enough buildings, schools, roads, etc after GDC...and Sandy will loosen the purse strings. : Bobby and Joe couldn't deliver milk if they where cows. The UTN has seen better days. It stands to reason you cannot run a newspaper without journalist and cannot use the journalist to leverage you access to a mayor and sell that access to commerical real estate owners for $1,000,000 per month. The access is over you killed the golden goose you ate the journalist that provided the leverage. Joe and Bobbi should think about hiring and actually paying a journalist and stop trying to buy candidates. Consulting Contracts for access to the mayor based on the ability to organize and mobilize voters using a newspaper with no journalist will never work. You need money to make money. Harvey should know that the UTN is dead because the owners took more than they should have. : : : Of course its about Power. But more importantly its about pieces of a power puzzle that still can't provide a complete picture until its put together. Right now...its in pieces. Smith needs guaranteed CASH and brothers Bobbdy and Joe need a candidate. They need each other. Simple as that. : : You think Harvey trusts the HCDO to deliver for him if Manzo, Healy or O'Dea make a decent showing in a poll? That and a little arm twisting and the HCDO says....SORRY HARVEY...we ain't gonna waste our money on YOU. : : So L Harvey Smith needs BACK UP CASH. Enter Bobby and Joe....and no doubt the former First Lady (no disrespect Sandra) and crew to help Harvey with CUnningham CASH. Thus he may be able to hold onto something he can't hold onto without help. If he's done a poll ...which I am sure he has.... he knows he has no chance against his postential contenders. : : So then .... Bad Thief.....sorry....this has NOTHING to do with WHO has WHAT on WHO. It IS about holding onto power in the face of what will soon become very clear .... insurmountable odds as the HCDO steps away from brother Harvey and selects from what they will say is a more "universal" candidate. : : ******************************************************** : : : Could it be about money & Power? Who got what on who? Jersey City to take it on the chin on this one.Right now corruption has the upper leg in the City.November will tell the story,if Jersey city will Die or Live.Deals and scams is a way of life down at Grove street right now.Lets name a Street after Corruption or the UTN building would be a proper place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why Menendez Got Embargo Removed posted Message 4283 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 10:24:21 Subject: Scarinci's Law Firm Represents Gum Arabic Producers Thanks for bringing up the Gum Arabic Scam. It's a fact- Donald Scarinci's Law Firm Boasts of Representing the Producers of Gum Arabic. Gee I wonder why they chose THE DONALD'S firm. No Wonder Menendez removed the embargo. LOL : Grasso has done nothing but his job as authorized by the Board of Directors of the New York Stock Exchange. Menendez removed the embargo barrier from the Sudan and allowed Gum Arabic to be purchased from Osama's farms in the Sudan. Menendez funded terrorism he is a traitor and has the blood of Americans on his hands and in his bank accounts bith on and offshore. Grasso recieved a fat pay check that was well known. Also one of the reasons Grasso was brought out of the dark and into the light was he refused to bow to one Ned Johnson the Bostonian who owns Fidelity or FMR Corp. Grasso was brought under pressue to change the rules of the NYSE Order Execution system for the Billion Dollar Boys of Boston. Well FMR will get what they have coming to them eventually. Grasso might have taken too much but it was given by the board Menendez's removing of import restrictions on Osama's Gum Arabic was legal as well. I ask you how many people where killed by these two legal actions Grasso had zero body count, Menendez 15,000 and still growing Thanks Congressman we love the job your doing for the terrorist. : : SCAM ARTISTS - Boss Robert Menendez and the Disgraced Former Chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, Richard Grasso. : : Grasso is under investigation for numerous Wall Street Stock Scams and Ripoffs. : : Menendez & Grasso = Perfect Together : : http://www.naaonline.org/images/2002%20Wall%20Street%20Summit/4-4.jpg ***************** End Of Article ****************** How That Scam Worked posted Message 4284 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 10:36:35 Subject: Sudanese Paid Scarinci : Thanks for bringing up the Gum Arabic Scam. : It's a fact- Donald Scarinci's Law Firm Boasts of Representing the Producers of Gum Arabic. Gee I wonder why they chose THE DONALD'S firm. : No Wonder Menendez removed the embargo. LOL DIRECT FROM DONALD SCARINCI'S LAW FIRMS WEB SITE - INTERNATIONAL EMBARGOES/SANCTIONS - GUM ARABIC Last November President Clinton issued an Order imposing a trade embargo against the Sudan. The embargo prohibited the importation into the United States of goods or services of Sudanese origin other than information or informational materials. The Sudan is also the world's largest supplier of gum arabic. As a result of subsequent discussions and lobbying by members of Congress, in particular REPRESENATIVE ROBERT MENENDEZ of New Jersey, in May it was announced by the Treasury Department that U.S. gum arabic gum arabic manufacturers would be able to fulfill contracts entered into prior to the Executive Order barring trade with Sudan. This issue again resurfaced in August following the bombing of the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania on August 7th. Following that there were allegations of alleged links between Islamic extremist Osama Bin Laden and gum arabic industries in the Sudan. Industry representatives have strongly disputed any linkage and State Department officials have said that there is no connection between Bin Laden and Gum Arabic Company, the Sudanese company that controls exports of gum arabic to the United States. Here is the link http://www.njlegalink.com/njlegalinkOLD/naffs98.htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** ClearChoice posted Message 4285 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 11:30:57 Subject: Bobby Jackson -Si.---Menendez -No Mas. UTN is Harvey Choice.Let him live with it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth shall set you free............................... posted Message 4286 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 13:33:15 Subject: Acting Mayor L Harvey Smith HAS NOT JOINED FORCES WITH THE "UTN" GANG I read the posts that stated Smith has aligned with Cardwell and Jackson............and I was shocked. I called the Big Kahuna and said “Big Kahuna please tell me this is false.” The response I got....”.STOP TALKING $HIT”.....which means....NO WAY!! So, obviously all this nonsense about their allegiance is to cause a split amongst the Smith supporters. But, it has back fired and made us more united. ***************** End Of Article ****************** tell me more posted Message 4287 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 14:13:17 Subject: Re: The image was not posted by GETNJ.com. So tell us how to scan a picture into the message............. ***************** End Of Article ****************** How TOO posted Message 4288 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 14:20:18 Subject: How do you get to join the UTN forces? They sound like a lot of fun.Can you join for free or is it like the Ward C gofer club?I will give up for Ward C gofer jacket if i can join the UTN Gang. ***************** End Of Article ****************** How TOO posted Message 4289 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 14:20:33 Subject: How do you get to join the UTN forces? They sound like a lot of fun.Can you join for free or is it like the Ward C gofer club?I will give up for Ward C gofer jacket if i can join the UTN Gang. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4290 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 14:35:05 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4291 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 14:41:28 Subject: Re: The image was not posted by GETNJ.com. : So tell us how to scan a picture into the message............. To post the image from the Form, the graphic has to already be on the Web. In the Post Form, you'll see a field, Optional Image URL. You just need to type in the URL (location) of the image. If you have images that relate to Hudson County Politics that you want on the Web and you don't have access to a Web Server, you can e-mail pictures to me. I'll consider posting them on the Web. ***************** End Of Article ****************** KNOWLEDGE IS POWER posted Message 4292 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 16:06:08 Subject: Breaking News = Clueless Breaking News - It is YOU WHO IS UNINFORMED. First you insult the GETNJ Webmaster with your crude posts. Then you have the nerve to ask for computer lessons from the very same guy. Apparently you need all the Breaks You Can Get. BTW - Your "Champion" is going to need some help too - SOON. LMAO : So tell us how to scan a picture into the message............. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cleopatra - Queen of Denial posted Message 4293 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 16:43:48 Subject: Big Kahuna Also Denies Joe Barry is Talking You actually believe the "Big Kahuna" - LMAO Keep Drinking the HCDO Kool Aid. : I read the posts that stated Smith has aligned with Cardwell and Jackson............and I was shocked. : I called the Big Kahuna and said “Big Kahuna please tell me this is false.” : The response I got....”.STOP TALKING $HIT”.....which means....NO WAY!! : So, obviously all this nonsense about their allegiance is to cause a split amongst the Smith supporters. But, it has back fired and made us more united. ***************** End Of Article ****************** D-Tailgunner posted Message 4294 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 16:54:52 Subject: Re: Carlton talented ?! I did not want anything that was written to be published. I am getting a great deal of flack over the fact that someone has sent the information that I wrote in the chat as it was forwarded to certain people. In the future what is said outside of the room should remain outside and not be copied and forwarded on to people, you know who you are and you need to stop. Please do not ask me to share anything again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** D-Tailgunner posted Message 4295 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 17:01:04 Subject: Re: Liked Carlton ?! : Yeah, people liked Carlton. I'm guessing the percentage to be about 1% . 99% hated the arrogant SOB's guts. I posted some information into the chat room and one of you have forwarded to people that it was not meant to be forwarded to. Please, do not forward any information that I write in the chat room to this site or others and do not copy and send by way of email. I am getting a great deal of flac as a result. The person that did this should just relax at this point. Slamming the jackass is fine, but I have a reputation of writting things and forwarding them. This is know and I know how and when to pick my own battles. I don't have money to pay for a team of six shooters to protect me. I am not OJ nor can I afford Johnny cocran. I had to mispell the last name as it is not accepted by the editor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** KEEP LAUGHING CUZ SOON YOU BE CRYING! posted Message 4296 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 17:23:52 Subject: Re: Big Kahuna Also Denies Joe Barry is Talking BOTTOM LINE IS NO DEAL WITH JACKSON! Cute pic who is it your alter ego? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4297 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 17:27:55 Subject: Smith For Mayor Bumper Sticker Before you get all hyperkinetic, glance below to see a close up of the treasurer's name. Perhaps from now on only candidates named Smith should run for Mayor. Just think how all the campaign graphics would be good forever and ever. And, all the City signs and vehicles wouldn't have to be painted over, either! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Big merger posted Message 4298 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 19:05:42 Subject: Good for Harvey Smith &UTN-Bad for JC taxpayers The Choice s yours,Jersey City Taxpayers. Scams & Bad Deals or good government.I say goos Government,its a better deal. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4299 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 20:59:15 Subject: Re: Peaces in our time?$$$$$$$$$- : It is a holiday! Who let this joik out of his padded cell? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4300 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 21:01:20 Subject: Re: The Endorsement-ODea & Manzo Dr-X-Ray, NurseVal, NurseBetsy and NurseMidge are lettingme play with the computer to day because it is a special day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4301 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 21:02:47 Subject: Re: All pay no work--UTN work force I dont remember if the Dr-X-Ray said I had alzheimers or not. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CluelessChoice posted Message 4302 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 21:03:59 Subject: Re: Bobby Jackson -Si.---Menendez -No Mas. And that is what I am - clueless ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Big Doofus posted Message 4303 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 21:05:07 Subject: Re: Good for Harvey Smith &UTN-Bad for JC taxpayers : The Choice s yours,Jersey City Taxpayers. Am i a braindead doofus or not. ***************** End Of Article ****************** How Not TOO posted Message 4304 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 21:08:10 Subject: Re: How do you get to join the UTN forces? We dont know. But we all know what you did - A$$Kisser ***************** End Of Article ****************** Read AGAIN... posted Message 4305 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 04, 2004 at 21:43:54 Subject: Re: You forget the war chest Does the word C-A-S-H not ring a BELL?!?!?!?!? Did I not write...SMITH NEEDS GUARANTEED CASH!! ... ?? Geeze ... so anxious to comment you forget to READ. : You forget about GDC's war chest. He had millions in his fund and that is now in the hands of none other than SANDY. Gee....you think Harvey may want to get his hands on some of that there green? Then he gotta cow tow to BobbyJoe. And name enough buildings, schools, roads, etc after GDC...and Sandy will loosen the purse strings. : : Bobby and Joe couldn't deliver milk if they where cows. The UTN has seen better days. It stands to reason you cannot run a newspaper without journalist and cannot use the journalist to leverage you access to a mayor and sell that access to commerical real estate owners for $1,000,000 per month. The access is over you killed the golden goose you ate the journalist that provided the leverage. Joe and Bobbi should think about hiring and actually paying a journalist and stop trying to buy candidates. Consulting Contracts for access to the mayor based on the ability to organize and mobilize voters using a newspaper with no journalist will never work. You need money to make money. Harvey should know that the UTN is dead because the owners took more than they should have. : : : : : : Of course its about Power. But more importantly its about pieces of a power puzzle that still can't provide a complete picture until its put together. Right now...its in pieces. Smith needs guaranteed CASH and brothers Bobbdy and Joe need a candidate. They need each other. Simple as that. : : : You think Harvey trusts the HCDO to deliver for him if Manzo, Healy or O'Dea make a decent showing in a poll? That and a little arm twisting and the HCDO says....SORRY HARVEY...we ain't gonna waste our money on YOU. : : : So L Harvey Smith needs BACK UP CASH. Enter Bobby and Joe....and no doubt the former First Lady (no disrespect Sandra) and crew to help Harvey with CUnningham CASH. Thus he may be able to hold onto something he can't hold onto without help. If he's done a poll ...which I am sure he has.... he knows he has no chance against his postential contenders. : : : So then .... Bad Thief.....sorry....this has NOTHING to do with WHO has WHAT on WHO. It IS about holding onto power in the face of what will soon become very clear .... insurmountable odds as the HCDO steps away from brother Harvey and selects from what they will say is a more "universal" candidate. : : : ******************************************************** : : : : Could it be about money & Power? Who got what on who? Jersey City to take it on the chin on this one.Right now corruption has the upper leg in the City.November will tell the story,if Jersey city will Die or Live.Deals and scams is a way of life down at Grove street right now.Lets name a Street after Corruption or the UTN building would be a proper place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** What the heck are you babbiling about posted Message 4306 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 00:13:32 Subject: Re: Liked Carlton ?! : : Yeah, people liked Carlton. I'm guessing the percentage to be about 1% . 99% hated the arrogant SOB's guts. : : I posted some information into the chat room and one of you have forwarded to people that it was not meant to be forwarded to. Please, do not forward any information that I write in the chat room to this site or others and do not copy and send by way of email. I am getting a great deal of flac as a result. The person that did this should just relax at this point. Slamming the jackass is fine, but I have a reputation of writting things and forwarding them. This is know and I know how and when to pick my own battles. I don't have money to pay for a team of six shooters to protect me. I am not OJ nor can I afford Johnny cocran. I had to mispell the last name as it is not accepted by the editor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ernie posted Message 4307 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 00:19:00 Subject: Re: Carlton talented ?! This sounds like a great muppett caper ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 4308 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 08:21:58 Subject: We got them on the run GetNJ & THE UTN gang are in a panic.The dont have a free ride here with their misinformation any more.So they Use Tom Gaynors name to confused thr reader.UTN and the gang on on the run. We will have GOOD Government in November.Good bye to all the dead wood down in Grove street very soon.The Con game is over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** What a fool- If you don't want it repeated-DONT POST IT IN THE FIRST PLACE_LMAO posted Message 4309 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 10:13:24 Subject: Read this post Posted by What the heck are you babbiling about on July 05, 2004 at 00:13:32: In Reply to: Re: Liked Carlton ?! posted by D-Tailgunner on July 04, 2004 at 17:01:04: : : Yeah, people liked Carlton. I'm guessing the percentage to be about 1% . 99% hated the arrogant SOB's guts. : : I posted some information into the chat room and one of you have forwarded to people that it was not meant to be forwarded to. Please, do not forward any information that I write in the chat room to this site or others and do not copy and send by way of email. I am getting a great deal of flac as a result. The person that did this should just relax at this point. Slamming the jackass is fine, but I have a reputation of writting things and forwarding them. This is know and I know how and when to pick my own battles. I don't have money to pay for a team of six shooters to protect me. I am not OJ nor can I afford Johnny cocran. I had to mispell the last name as it is not accepted by the editor. Follow Ups: ***************** End Of Article ****************** How do you know it's the same person? posted Message 4310 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 10:14:12 Subject: Re: Breaking News = Clueless : Breaking News - It is YOU WHO IS UNINFORMED. : First you insult the GETNJ Webmaster with your crude posts. : Then you have the nerve to ask for computer lessons from the very same guy. : : Apparently you need all the Breaks You Can Get. : BTW - Your "Champion" is going to need some help too - SOON. : LMAO : : : So tell us how to scan a picture into the message............. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Because Kenny Menendez Hate You posted Message 4311 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 10:37:47 Subject: Avon's Tom & Nancy Blackballed Tom & The Lovely Nancy - Face Facts - the Puppet Master Menendez and his Chief Pawn HCDO Chairman Bernie Kenny HATE YOU. DON'T YOU GET IT ??? THEY SEE YOU AND THEY SEE BRET. THEY HATE BRET TOO. Please REMEMBER THAT Nancy ran against Bernie Kenny for Senate - Menendez and Kenny sure do remember - AND THEY CARRY GRUDGES. THEY WILL NEVER - EVER EVER Give you anything but empty promises and lies. They do not believe in "forgive and forget". Boss Menendez is known for destroying the people that have help him - Menendez does far worse to the ones who oppose him. Your so called good friends may have titles (like County Exec.) BUT they are POWERLESS. : GetNJ & THE UTN gang are in a panic.The dont have a free ride here with their misinformation any more.So they Use Tom Gaynors name to confused thr reader.UTN and the gang on on the run. We will have GOOD Government in November.Good bye to all the dead wood down in Grove street very soon.The Con game is over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4312 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 10:42:12 Subject: What would Freud say about this? . . . >I don't have money to pay for a team of six shooters to protect me. I am not OJ nor can I afford Johnny cocran. >I had to mispell the last name as it is not accepted by the editor. The lawyer's name is Johnnie Cochran. What were you thinking of? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why Johnny's Coch RAN posted Message 4313 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 10:49:37 Subject: "If IT Doesn't Fit - YOU MUST QUIT" : . . . : >I don't have money to pay for a team of six shooters to protect me. I am not OJ nor can I afford Johnny cocran. >I had to mispell the last name as it is not accepted by the editor. : The lawyer's name is Johnnie Cochran. What were you thinking of? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4314 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 13:43:18 Subject: Re: We got them on the run : Tom & Nancy Gaynor are in a panic.The dont have a free ride here with their misinformation any more.So they Use Tom Gaynors name to confused thr reader. We will have peace and quiet in November.Good bye to all the dead wood down in Avon_by-the Sea very soon.The Gaynor game is over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4315 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 16:34:42 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ming The Merciless posted Message 4316 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 18:50:47 Subject: Menendez's Hero Here is link to a pic of Boss Menendez's hero. http://zlatyveksf.euweb.cz/images/covers/small/mingthemerciless.jpg : Tom & The Lovely Nancy - Face Facts - the Puppet Master Menendez and his Chief Pawn HCDO Chairman Bernie Kenny HATE YOU. : DON'T YOU GET IT ??? : THEY SEE YOU AND THEY SEE BRET. THEY HATE BRET TOO. : Please REMEMBER THAT Nancy ran against Bernie Kenny for Senate - : Menendez and Kenny sure do remember - AND THEY CARRY GRUDGES. : THEY WILL NEVER - EVER EVER Give you anything but empty promises and lies. They do not believe in "forgive and forget". : Boss Menendez is known for destroying the people that have help him - Menendez does far worse to the ones who oppose him. : Your so called good friends may have titles (like County Exec.) BUT they are POWERLESS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** How To Bilk the Taxpayers posted Message 4317 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 20:47:44 Subject: Slide Show With Donald Scarinci Here is The Donald showing how he does "IT " ***************** End Of Article ****************** Scarinci Acolyte posted Message 4318 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 21:34:06 Subject: Love the Donald !!! Donald Scarinci is so smart !!! And rich too !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Whilhelm Reich posted Message 4319 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 21:36:23 Subject: Vewy intewesting. A six shooter eh. Sounds like a phallic symbol to me !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flesh Gordon posted Message 4320 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 21:39:07 Subject: Den of Iniquity Don't you all realize that Hudson County is as bad as Sodom and Gomorrah ??? Emperor Ming would be pleased !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4321 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 21:55:38 Subject: FWIW, Here's the Page The Link is for the Page that features the image. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Donald Fan posted Message 4322 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 22:06:00 Subject: One thing about Donald you always get swoemthing for your money rather than nothing as is the case with many Donald is not perfect but does provide a service of value rather than some of his enemies like the UTN. funny thing is the UTN does not have to work for their money but Donald does. Maybe someone should examine why the UTN does nothing and recieves $1,000,000 per month as consultant to commercial real estate organizations like Goldman Sachs basically selling access to the Mayor's office while Donald has to show up and do something. Money for nothing ala the UTN and money for a service that does something a simple question with a simple answer. : Here is The Donald showing how he does "IT " ***************** End Of Article ****************** Free At Last posted Message 4323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 05, 2004 at 22:24:26 Subject: Welcome to the UTN Online? Will the Authorities Close Down the UTN and it's online division? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4324 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 07:08:50 Subject: I just saw Tom Gaynor heading for the beach He had a beach chair, A cup of coffee and a newspaper under his arm. He told me good government can do wonders for a dieing city..Corruption and Bad land Deals is not the way to go, he said.Remember the Cure For Good Government is honesty&Brains. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ix-Nay posted Message 4325 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 07:51:49 Subject: Re: I just saw Tom Gaynor heading for the beach : He had A cup of coffee and a newspaper under his arm. He told me he was going to march into the sea...like a lemming, he said.This sounds like a GoodCure For the people of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TOM DEGISE Hudson County Executive Jersey City posted Message 4326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 09:13:17 Subject: McCann's letter rewrites history, uses false logic McCann's letter rewrites history, uses false logic Tuesday, July 06, 2004 I thought it to be rather precious of Gerry McCann to leap to the defense of Lou Manzo with an attack on me in a recent letter to the editor. I guess the cat is out of the bag on who will be the "brains" in a Manzo administration. And you really have to admire Gerry's chutzpah. His use of mistaken revisionist history and false, self-congratulatory logic is a rare, if obnoxious gift. When I came to City Hall with Bret Schundler, we were faced with the fiscal carnage left behind by Gerry McCann. A disastrous revaluation left the city with a mountain of repayment obligations to satisfy waves of successful tax appeals. Gerry's financial wizardry also left the city with the infamous fiscal year adjustment bonds, all $128 million of them. Doubling the amount he needed to borrow to move from a calendar year budget to a fiscal year budget, Jerry "stabilized" taxes for a year back in 1991 all right - at the cost of decades of debt that will continue to burden the city until today's toddlers are old enough to vote. Of course Gerry didn't get to stick around to answer for this mess. I guess that makes it easier to spin now. The truth is, we cleaned up Gerry's historic fiscal disaster in a reasonable manner. While putting more cops on the beat and dramatically increasing economic development during my tenure as City Council president, we actually stabilized taxes and kept them at or below the rate of inflation on average during our eight years in City Hall. And water and sewer rates during those years actually declined. The recent state budget Lou Manzo voted on in Trenton raised taxes more than that in just one year alone! The "huge" county tax hike Gerry attacks me for in his letter was in fact, a 2 percent increase in total spending that yielded a just a 3 percent rise in the levy. We were hit this year with double-digit increases in state-required pension and medical costs. But we didn't resort to bonding tricks like those Gerry burdened Jersey City with; we did what we could to control costs and did all we could to minimize the impact without mortgaging the future. Perhaps the most offensive part of Gerry's attack was his ridiculing my career as a teacher. I've spent close to 30 years working in the public high schools of Jersey City, the majority of those years in the classroom and some as a job placement officer in the Educational Business Alliance. And over the years, I have spent more time in the field I was trained in than did Gerry and I could return to my field if I chose to do so. I am proud to be a frontline educator and may some day return to Snyder High School. I am also proud of my record as an elected official. I've worked to bring common sense, integrity and stability to the offices I have held. And I have always tried to foster fair relationships with friends and rivals alike for the benefit of the people I serve. Unlike Gerry and Louis, I've tried to build bridges, not burn them. I wrote last week that I believed a Manzo administration would be a catastrophe for the taxpayers of Jersey City. An honest reading of the recent history of Jersey City makes clear that there actually could be something worse: a McCann/Manzo administration. TOM DEGISE Hudson County Executive Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Under the Boardwalk posted Message 4327 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 10:56:29 Subject: Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan will lead Jersey City out of the dark ages Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan will lead Jersey City out of the dark ages. The hard working people built this town and are getting it back. No phony from north hudson that wnats to only give everything to foreigners and minorities is going to tell us what to do. ITs good that Degise and Gaughan won't let noone push then around from doing right. ***************** End Of Article ****************** D-Tailguner posted Message 4328 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 10:56:37 Subject: Re: Ayala Trashing Carlton McGee : : : If Carlton had any idea that he would become a subordinant to a no-talent idiot like Ayala, he probably never would have come to our town. But then again, most of the people with an once of talent or self-respect would have turned away from GDC if they realized that Ayala was going to be given so much authority. : : : Ayala did everything in his power to alienate everyone around him. So whatever he gets from here on in his life is a result of his own actions. He just never got it. There are those in power who wield power with discretion and use their power benevolently to do good things. That's how you build power, by using power to benefit others. : : : But not Ayala. He used his power to crush people's spirits, to end careers, to cut people out and to start battles which today have proven to have been counter-productive. Could anyone have predicted Glenn's untimely demise? That's doubtful. But you just don't burn bridges in this business. You build them where and whenever possible. I guess its back to long-haul trucking for poor Bill. He never did get his law degree, even though the city was paying for his law school. I doubt he would pass the Bar Exam even if he had completed his classes. He's definately a fixture without a light bulb. He just ain't too bright. : : : Carlton.....best of luck ;) : : : : : : : : : : : Obviously it’s you Bill Ayala trashing Carlton. Are you jealous that people liked Carlton? It will take us a long time to replace someone as talented as Carlton McGee. : : : : As for you Bill Ayala you’re a whole in water! Much luck and success Carlton Sounds like this is coming from Carltons Lover. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCann Edict posted Message 4329 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 11:11:51 Subject: Re: Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan will lead Jersey City out of the dark ages : Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan will lead Jersey City out of the dark ages. : The hard working people built this town and are getting it back. No phony from north hudson that wnats to only give everything to foreigners and minorities is going to tell us what to do. ITs good that Degise and Gaughan won't let noone push then around from doing right.This is McCann at work.I wont work Gerry. Nice Try Though.You wont be able to blame Tom Gaynor as a racist with this trash. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4330 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 11:35:35 Subject: Re: Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan will lead Jersey City out of the dark ages You still aint getting your job back fool. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thank Goodness For the Facts...... posted Message 4331 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 12:05:05 Subject: Re: McCann's letter rewrites history, uses false logic : Thanks Tom for a clear understandable, no nonsense reply to Gerry McCann. We need more leaders like you in Hudson, soon. : : McCann's letter rewrites history, uses false logic : Tuesday, July 06, 2004 : : I thought it to be rather precious of Gerry McCann to leap to the defense of Lou Manzo with an attack on me in a recent letter to the editor. I guess the cat is out of the bag on who will be the "brains" in a Manzo administration. : And you really have to admire Gerry's chutzpah. His use of mistaken revisionist history and false, self-congratulatory logic is a rare, if obnoxious gift. : When I came to City Hall with Bret Schundler, we were faced with the fiscal carnage left behind by Gerry McCann. A disastrous revaluation left the city with a mountain of repayment obligations to satisfy waves of successful tax appeals. Gerry's financial wizardry also left the city with the infamous fiscal year adjustment bonds, all $128 million of them. Doubling the amount he needed to borrow to move from a calendar year budget to a fiscal year budget, Jerry "stabilized" taxes for a year back in 1991 all right - at the cost of decades of debt that will continue to burden the city until today's toddlers are old enough to vote. Of course Gerry didn't get to stick around to answer for this mess. I guess that makes it easier to spin now. : The truth is, we cleaned up Gerry's historic fiscal disaster in a reasonable manner. While putting more cops on the beat and dramatically increasing economic development during my tenure as City Council president, we actually stabilized taxes and kept them at or below the rate of inflation on average during our eight years in City Hall. And water and sewer rates during those years actually declined. : The recent state budget Lou Manzo voted on in Trenton raised taxes more than that in just one year alone! The "huge" county tax hike Gerry attacks me for in his letter was in fact, a 2 percent increase in total spending that yielded a just a 3 percent rise in the levy. We were hit this year with double-digit increases in state-required pension and medical costs. But we didn't resort to bonding tricks like those Gerry burdened Jersey City with; we did what we could to control costs and did all we could to minimize the impact without mortgaging the future. : Perhaps the most offensive part of Gerry's attack was his ridiculing my career as a teacher. I've spent close to 30 years working in the public high schools of Jersey City, the majority of those years in the classroom and some as a job placement officer in the Educational Business Alliance. And over the years, I have spent more time in the field I was trained in than did Gerry and I could return to my field if I chose to do so. I am proud to be a frontline educator and may some day return to Snyder High School. : I am also proud of my record as an elected official. I've worked to bring common sense, integrity and stability to the offices I have held. And I have always tried to foster fair relationships with friends and rivals alike for the benefit of the people I serve. Unlike Gerry and Louis, I've tried to build bridges, not burn them. I wrote last week that I believed a Manzo administration would be a catastrophe for the taxpayers of Jersey City. An honest reading of the recent history of Jersey City makes clear that there actually could be something worse: a McCann/Manzo administration. : TOM DEGISE Hudson County Executive Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Take A Look in The Mirror Tom posted Message 4332 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 12:55:53 Subject: Dirty Neck DeGise Lost In Jersey City Who cares what Degise thinks - THE GUY LOST JERSEY CITY IN THE MAYORAL AND EVEN IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION. Other towns made him the County Exec. Not Jersey City. If he wants to improve things - DeGise should go BRUSH HIS TEETH AND WASH himself in the shower he had installed at the taxpayers expense in the County Exec's office. : : : McCann's letter rewrites history, uses false logic : Tuesday, July 06, 2004 : : I thought it to be rather precious of Gerry McCann to leap to the defense of Lou Manzo with an attack on me in a recent letter to the editor. I guess the cat is out of the bag on who will be the "brains" in a Manzo administration. : And you really have to admire Gerry's chutzpah. His use of mistaken revisionist history and false, self-congratulatory logic is a rare, if obnoxious gift. : When I came to City Hall with Bret Schundler, we were faced with the fiscal carnage left behind by Gerry McCann. A disastrous revaluation left the city with a mountain of repayment obligations to satisfy waves of successful tax appeals. Gerry's financial wizardry also left the city with the infamous fiscal year adjustment bonds, all $128 million of them. Doubling the amount he needed to borrow to move from a calendar year budget to a fiscal year budget, Jerry "stabilized" taxes for a year back in 1991 all right - at the cost of decades of debt that will continue to burden the city until today's toddlers are old enough to vote. Of course Gerry didn't get to stick around to answer for this mess. I guess that makes it easier to spin now. : The truth is, we cleaned up Gerry's historic fiscal disaster in a reasonable manner. While putting more cops on the beat and dramatically increasing economic development during my tenure as City Council president, we actually stabilized taxes and kept them at or below the rate of inflation on average during our eight years in City Hall. And water and sewer rates during those years actually declined. : The recent state budget Lou Manzo voted on in Trenton raised taxes more than that in just one year alone! The "huge" county tax hike Gerry attacks me for in his letter was in fact, a 2 percent increase in total spending that yielded a just a 3 percent rise in the levy. We were hit this year with double-digit increases in state-required pension and medical costs. But we didn't resort to bonding tricks like those Gerry burdened Jersey City with; we did what we could to control costs and did all we could to minimize the impact without mortgaging the future. : Perhaps the most offensive part of Gerry's attack was his ridiculing my career as a teacher. I've spent close to 30 years working in the public high schools of Jersey City, the majority of those years in the classroom and some as a job placement officer in the Educational Business Alliance. And over the years, I have spent more time in the field I was trained in than did Gerry and I could return to my field if I chose to do so. I am proud to be a frontline educator and may some day return to Snyder High School. : I am also proud of my record as an elected official. I've worked to bring common sense, integrity and stability to the offices I have held. And I have always tried to foster fair relationships with friends and rivals alike for the benefit of the people I serve. Unlike Gerry and Louis, I've tried to build bridges, not burn them. I wrote last week that I believed a Manzo administration would be a catastrophe for the taxpayers of Jersey City. An honest reading of the recent history of Jersey City makes clear that there actually could be something worse: a McCann/Manzo administration. : TOM DEGISE Hudson County Executive Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Breaking News posted Message 4333 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 14:14:41 Subject: HCDO will not be endorsing Jerry Healy for Mayor HCDO will not endorse Jerry Healy for Mayor instead it will be Pete Brennan. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO posted Message 4334 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 14:29:29 Subject: Re: HCDO will not be endorsing Jerry Healy for Mayor : HCDO will not endorse Jerry Healy for Mayor instead it will be Pete Brennan. Very Funny............. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 4335 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 14:45:48 Subject: Re: HCDO will not be endorsing Jerry Healy for Mayor : HCDO will not endorse Jerry Healy for Mayor instead it will be Pete Brennan. Pete Brennan is a gentlemen and would have a great shot to win . ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 4336 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 15:23:12 Subject: The tape recording is running Who taped who when Harvey Smith met with Joe Cardwell & Bobby Jackson atHartnett Law Office early last Week?That is the big question for the week.More on this later.And they were not talking about Good Government taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ASSEMBLYMAN ANTHONY CHIAPPONE posted Message 4337 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 16:04:12 Subject: DeGise cares not about diversity, just dictating I'm addressing comments made by Hudson County Executive Tom DeGise following Sen. Glenn D. Cunningham's death. Mr. DeGise had stated that I, along with my Assembly colleague, would definitely be "replaced" because the district's representatives no longer reflect the "ethnic diversity" of the area or population. I would first remind the county executive that you cannot replace that which was not yours to begin with. If you can recall back one year, Mr. DeGise, the voters of the 31 st'District replaced your choices in the Assembly. You may choose to put candidates against us in the primary, but replacement is not a privilege you own. That privilege belongs to the voters, should they wish to exercise it. As for your comments regarding "ethnicity," if this was really the issue, I am curious as to why you did not place a minority to fill the interim position of state Sen. Cunningham when you had the opportunity to do so. You had the chance to support Sandra Bolden Cunningham in place of Joe Doria, yet you did not express an ethnic concern then. Finally, in your shortsightedness and ignorance, you neglected to even check the ethnicity of the people you are so quick to "replace". Are you even aware that I'm half Italian 'and half Hispanic? With a growing population in Bayonne and Jersey City, are you aware that I am currently helping to organize the first Hispanic Day Parade in Bayonne? Mr. DeGise, be honest with the media and the public and acknowledge that "ethnicity" is not the issue here. The truth is, I consider myself an American first, and I take pride in the job I 'do to represent all of my constituents. The real issue here is that we are not a part of your exclusive club, the Hudson County Democratic Organization. You're not interested in ethnic representation. You're interested in HCDO representation. " Finally, since, through your comments, you appear to be the "boss" of the HCDO, I would recommend that, since you wish to have the right to dictate who gets placed and who gets replaced, that you remove the word "Democratic" from the name of your organization and insert the word "Dictatorship." After all, with a huge county tax increase you have just passed along to your constituents of all ethnicities, I wouldn't want you to spend any more money changing the initials of the HCDO. ASSEMBLYMAN ANTHONY CHIAPPONE, Bayonne ***************** End Of Article ****************** dddd posted Message 4338 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 16:11:55 Subject: Re: DeGise cares not about diversity, just dictating what a joke this letter is : I'm addressing comments made by Hudson County Executive Tom DeGise following Sen. Glenn D. Cunningham's death. : Mr. DeGise had stated that I, along with my Assembly colleague, would definitely be "replaced" because the district's representatives no longer reflect the "ethnic diversity" of the area or population. I would first remind the county executive that you cannot replace that which was not yours to begin with. : If you can recall back one year, Mr. DeGise, the voters of the 31 st'District replaced your choices in the Assembly. You may choose to put candidates against us in the primary, but replacement is not a privilege you own. That privilege belongs to the voters, should they wish to exercise it. : As for your comments regarding "ethnicity," if this was really the issue, I am curious as to why you did not place a minority to fill the interim position of state Sen. Cunningham when you had the opportunity to do so. You had the chance to support Sandra Bolden Cunningham in place of Joe Doria, yet you did not express an ethnic concern then. : Finally, in your shortsightedness and ignorance, you neglected to even check the ethnicity of the people you are so quick to "replace". Are you even aware that I'm half Italian 'and half Hispanic? With a growing population in Bayonne and Jersey City, are you aware that I am currently helping to organize the first Hispanic Day Parade in Bayonne? : Mr. DeGise, be honest with the media and the public and acknowledge that "ethnicity" is not the issue here. The truth is, I consider myself an American first, and I take pride in the job I 'do to represent all of my constituents. The real issue here is that we are not a part of your exclusive club, the Hudson County Democratic Organization. You're not interested in ethnic representation. You're interested in HCDO representation. : " Finally, since, through your comments, you appear to be the "boss" of the HCDO, I would recommend that, since you wish to have the right to dictate who gets placed and who gets replaced, that you remove the word "Democratic" from the name of your organization and insert the word "Dictatorship." After all, with a huge county tax increase you have just passed along to your constituents of all ethnicities, I wouldn't want you to spend any more money changing the initials of the HCDO. : ASSEMBLYMAN ANTHONY CHIAPPONE, Bayonne ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aneesah posted Message 4339 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 17:16:34 Subject: Re: DeGise cares not about diversity, just dictating : what a joke this letter is : : : I'm addressing comments made by Hudson County Executive Tom DeGise following Sen. Glenn D. Cunningham's death. : : Mr. DeGise had stated that I, along with my Assembly colleague, would definitely be "replaced" because the district's representatives no longer reflect the "ethnic diversity" of the area or population. I would first remind the county executive that you cannot replace that which was not yours to begin with. : : If you can recall back one year, Mr. DeGise, the voters of the 31 st'District replaced your choices in the Assembly. You may choose to put candidates against us in the primary, but replacement is not a privilege you own. That privilege belongs to the voters, should they wish to exercise it. : : As for your comments regarding "ethnicity," if this was really the issue, I am curious as to why you did not place a minority to fill the interim position of state Sen. Cunningham when you had the opportunity to do so. You had the chance to support Sandra Bolden Cunningham in place of Joe Doria, yet you did not express an ethnic concern then. : : Finally, in your shortsightedness and ignorance, you neglected to even check the ethnicity of the people you are so quick to "replace". Are you even aware that I'm half Italian 'and half Hispanic? With a growing population in Bayonne and Jersey City, are you aware that I am currently helping to organize the first Hispanic Day Parade in Bayonne? : : Mr. DeGise, be honest with the media and the public and acknowledge that "ethnicity" is not the issue here. The truth is, I consider myself an American first, and I take pride in the job I 'do to represent all of my constituents. The real issue here is that we are not a part of your exclusive club, the Hudson County Democratic Organization. You're not interested in ethnic representation. You're interested in HCDO representation. : : " Finally, since, through your comments, you appear to be the "boss" of the HCDO, I would recommend that, since you wish to have the right to dictate who gets placed and who gets replaced, that you remove the word "Democratic" from the name of your organization and insert the word "Dictatorship." After all, with a huge county tax increase you have just passed along to your constituents of all ethnicities, I wouldn't want you to spend any more money changing the initials of the HCDO. : : ASSEMBLYMAN ANTHONY CHIAPPONE, Bayonne God Bless You Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone, Bayonne N.J. Mr. DeGise you should be ashame of yourself for making such a statement as such, you should take a look at how insensitive that statement was and how the Black Community will see it: Aneesah W. Abdullah ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val aint a Gal posted Message 4340 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 17:25:01 Subject: Re: The tape recording is running : But all we keep getting is mindless babble when we arent cleening drool.More on this later. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4341 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 17:31:11 Subject: Urban Times News now available in the Jersey City Heights I see that the Urban Times News now is available in a number of locations in the Jersey City Heights. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4342 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 17:47:40 Subject: Allegation of sex abuse by former St. Nicholas (Jersey City) priest . . . Now 38, Terri said the abuse began in 1977 when she was 11 and living in Jersey City where she attended St. Nicholas Parish and school. In the next 11 years, Continuho was transferred to Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church in Boonton, then to St. Jude’s Church in Budd Lake, next to the Church of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary in Wayne and finally to Holy Cross Church in Palmetto, Fla. in 1998. Terri filed her complaint with the archdiocese of Newark in 2002 and that April, Continuho was ordered to cease acting as a priest. She said she has heard that complaints have been lodged by three other victims of Continuho but has been unable to confirm the reports. . . . For the complete article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4343 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 18:13:52 Subject: AP on Menendez, Rothman financial disclosure . . . Rep. Steven Rothman, D-Fair Lawn, did pretty well last year as part-owner of 10 properties in northern New Jersey and Boca Raton, Fla., with several valued at $100,000 to $250,000. . . . Rep. Robert Menendez's main assets were a Fidelity Growth fund worth $100,000 to $250,000 and rents from two Union City, N.J., properties that earned him between $30,000 and $100,000. Menendez, D-Union City, also sold a Union City property for $250,000 to $500,000. For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 4344 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 22:26:43 Subject: Ha !!!!!! Do you do the delivery's now Anthony ? I can see you and Marty Jackson tooling around in that bright orange truck of yours ... shouting EXTRA ! EXTRA ! .. while you toss the bundles of bird cage liners off the back. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4345 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 22:31:05 Subject: Tic tic tic ... Poor Tony ... the skids are being greased to slide your behind out of that Assembly seat. Sandy, Harvey, O'Dea, Militello .. they're all in line to take it. Watch your back Tony !!! Bwahahahahahahahaha !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frank Hague's Ghost posted Message 4346 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 22:36:17 Subject: Bad move Tony. You looked like a deer in headlights at Cunningham's funeral. If you think by aligning yourself with the Cunningham crowd you will gain power in Bayonne, you are sadly mistaken. Jackson, Cardwell and Drayton will toss you over board at the first opportunity. ***************** End Of Article ****************** lol posted Message 4347 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 22:38:34 Subject: Re: Ha !!!!!! : Do you do the delivery's now Anthony ? I can see you and Marty Jackson tooling around in that bright orange truck of yours ... shouting EXTRA ! EXTRA ! .. while you toss the bundles of bird cage liners off the back. ( o)> TWEET TWEET ***************** End Of Article ****************** Captain Lou Albano posted Message 4348 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 22:40:33 Subject: LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE !!! I think Healy, Brennan and Gaughan should duke it out in a steel cage death match. I'll bring da midgets !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** When Will the Urban Times Close? posted Message 4349 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 06, 2004 at 22:56:42 Subject: Re: Urban Times News now available in the Jersey City Heights The Clock is Ticking.......... : I see that the Urban Times News now is available in a number of locations in the Jersey City Heights. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4350 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 07:10:27 Subject: Tom Gaynor sees a two horse race between Lou Manzo &Jerry Healy He tells me it will go down to the wire.To close to call.He tells me both would make great Mayors.Its a win, win for Jersey City.So maybe the cure for bad Government is coming to JC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4351 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 07:21:22 Subject: Will I be able to use this as an alibi? In the current issue of Urban Times News, a photo of Carl Czaplicki is identified as Steve Lipski. Do all Polish people look alike? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4352 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 07:27:16 Subject: If every week Comcast didn't play the same two episodes of Robert Menendez's Report to the People TV show, . . . If every week Comcast didn't play the same two episodes of Robert Menendez's Report to the People TV show, might Kerry have picked Congressman Bob for the Vice President shot? Who know? If Menendez's staff gets their rears in gear and sends GETNJ.com the set of tapes of the show (as promised), maybe Robert Menendez might get elected as the next Pope! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Zeek the Greek posted Message 4353 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 07:29:14 Subject: Where's the finish line? Race to where, the dog food factory? : He tells me it will go down to the wire.To close to call.He tells me both would make great Mayors.Its a win, win for Jersey City.So maybe the cure for bad Government is coming to JC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ghost Workers posted Message 4354 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 07:57:45 Subject: Harvey Smith-What does Martin Jackson of UTN do For his paycheck for the city of Jersey City.Is this how you are going to look after the Jersey city taxpayers money if you are elected Mayor.God Forbid.And what about the rest of the UTN no work workforce?Please answer the Big Question for the jersey City Taxpayers or should i ask Roger Jones,the real Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ix-Nay posted Message 4355 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 07:58:31 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor sees a race : Who will win? It's Sandcastles in the lead, closely followed by Drooling. Babbling is coming on strong. Also ran - Idiot. He hasn't left the gate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inquiring mind posted Message 4356 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 09:57:06 Subject: Is Martin Jackson really still on the payroll ? It would be hard to believe if true. The guy had a no-show job and did a lousy job on the City's website. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No he is gone posted Message 4357 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 11:33:40 Subject: Re: Is Martin Jackson really still on the payroll ? : It would be hard to believe if true. The guy had a no-show job and did a lousy job on the City's website. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 4358 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 15:44:09 Subject: Vengeful Acting Mayor Vengeful Acting Mayor By UTN Staff Urban Times News July 2, 2004 -- July 8, 2004 At the Mayor-elect's funeral, US Attorney Christopher Christie provided a litany of reasons why Glenn Cunningham stood out among the corrupt politicians associated with Hudson County, "Often people who serves us (in political office) disappoint us, but when people from other places lament about politicians who line their pocket, or politicians who lie and steal, or politicians who abuse the public trust, Jersey City residents can say, 'Not us, we have Glenn Cunningham!"' That was then. We now have L. Harvey Smith. Mr. Smith has worked hard in front of the cameras these past weeks. He has met with munici­pal combatants, posed for drug busts on TV, replaced and reor­ganized staff, always repeating his catchphrases, "...best for the city", and "...maintaining order". Generally, imitating the actions of a beloved predecessor will suffi­ciently convince constituents of your sincerity, but we had Glenn Cunningham. Despite his public postures, Jersey City residents know Mr. Smith to be a malevo­lent individual, evidenced first by his snatching of power in the midst of the city's grief, and evi­denced even now, as he lashes out at Cunningham compatriots too devastated to fight. Willie Flood was the closest aide to Mayor Cunningham in City Hall. A soft-spoken yet effective woman, she can now listen to the happy Cunningham anecdotes so many wish to share, but its bitter sweetness still remains. When the Mayor died, Willie had just come out of the hospital after more than three weeks of recuperating from her own illness. On June 4th, not a week after the Mayor-elect's funeral, a hand­delivered note was sent from the acting mayor's office. Retelling the tale, Ms. Flood still chokes a bit, recalling her memory of see­ing the car Glenn rode in so often, again stop at her door. But this time there would be no good news. An aide stepped out, deliv­ering a letter saying she was fired. The numbness of Cunningham's passing did not allow her to react. Two days later when she received a registered letter, she signed for what would be a duplicate copy of the same. Mr. Smith in his anx­iousness had to re-send his bad news, this time making it "offi­cial". Ms. Flood was not surprised, having seen the true behavior and heard the true voice of today's acting mayor. However, when Ms. Flood went to City Hall to clear her desk and gather her final paycheck, she was told she would not receive one. The administrator politely informed her that her check was being held. She requested the check from her insurance policy, a policy that she paid into with each check that would cover her hospi­tal expenses. Ms. Flood was told that those funds were being gar­nished as well. When asked for an explanation, she was told that she would have to pay back her accu­mulated sick time. She had six­teen (16) days of sick leave, she used thirty-four (34). Ms. Flood was under the impression that her co-workers had donated their own sick days on her behalf. That was the benevolent example followed by a Cunningham-run office, a gift from co-workers who loved her and wished her well. It was also pre-Smith. After re-organizing the office and reassigning office personnel, Smith decided to penalize the last person standing, Willie Flood. As she was told, there is no indica­tion that days were donated to her. Instead, the new administra­tion claims, her sick days came out of the general pool, and she had to repay them. That justified keeping her regular paycheck. Further, the administration asserts, Ms. Flood deducted insur­ance premiums from her pay­check. To "make up" for the legit­imate sick days they think should not have been taken, her insur­ance benefits check, sent to the office, would also be held. Ms. Flood has tried to seek rea­sonable remedy for this action. The open-door policies of the truly acting mayor have repeated­ly been closed to any discussion on this matter. The personnel office when questioned by this paper cited "protocol" as their rea­son for their actions and sent us to the office of the acting mayor. When he was unavailable we were connected to the office of his aide with no phone pick-up. Messages from this paper contin­ue to be left, unanswered. The open door is obviously shut when it doesn't benefit Mr. Smith. When asked why she thinks Mr. Smith is using his office to wreck such havoc against her, Ms. Flood, like former Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, takes the high road (perhaps the reason Mr. Smith so calculatingly chose her as his tar­get). "I understand he doesn't want to be reminded of Glenn or anybody who associated with Glenn. I was his aide. I worked closely with him. Ms. Flood expresses no vehemence toward the acting mayor offering some balance to accusations of "trying to get her". "Sure he (Smith) put other people in different places, but he fired some people too", offering some balance to accusa­tions that this might be personal. When asked why she doesn't get people to say they donated their days on her behalf, her response was equally noble, "I don't believe in disrupting people's lives for my sake. I am not that kind of per­son." Those familiar with their relationship confirm that Flood did..not really speak extensively with Smith, before or after Cunningham's passing. At the start of all this, she was out on sick leave. She was devastated by the loss of her friend. She was the least likely to be vocal in fighting back, and he did not like her, the presumption being that she was too close to the political predeces­sor of the acting mayor council president. This is not to say Ms. Flood is any shrinking violet. She is in fact one of the leaders of the Hudson Reform Democrat Committee. While non-confrontational in her own right, she supported Cunningham wholeheartedly, particularly when her party reject­ed Smith in his rift with former Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. At the June 23rd regular council meeting, responding to Councilwoman Viola Richardson in a heated exchange, Council President Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith stood up to return, "I was a supporter until September of 1992 when he (Cunningham) came in here with citizens (HRDC and oth­ers) saying I had sold my people out!" It is disconcerting to know that from 1992 to 2004, this remains on the mind of Jersey City's purported new "man of the people". This vengeful blurt speaks much more truthfully about the motivations of Acting Mayor Council President L. Harvey Smith than any accounting error or mis­understanding about sick days. While imitation of previous suc­cesses is the best tactic for dupli­cating that success, it also the sin­cerest form of flattery. Flattering the honorable Glenn D. Cunningham is the last thing the acting mayor of Jersey City wants to do. The facade of AMCP L. Harvey Smith will continue to crumble under the pressure of duplicating the benevolent integri­ty of Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. Few who paid attention during the previous administration are fooled. The actions of the multidimen­sional Mayor resonate deeply with all who saw or met him. Glenn was a law enforcer, so it made sense that when a crime was solved, he appeared at the crime scene. Glenn was a man of faith, so it made sense that when he attended church, clergy welcomed him with open arms. Glenn was a man of all the people. He made no distinction based on race, creed, color or polit­ical allegiance. That is why so many former Hudson County Democrats defected to his favor! People came to him when they were hurting. People knew he would use his power to help them. The Glenn D. Cunningham, who will now be memorialized via Cunningham Way, was beloved because he made politics second- I ary to improving the lives of Jersey City residents. Using his political power for revenge and spite was beneath his character. What is more, it was contrary to his belief in the responsibility given to him by the people of Jersey City. Perhaps if he answered to the peo­ple of Jersey City rather than the City Council, the acting mayor would appreciate his power and responsibility too. Perhaps if he walked their neighborhoods and helped calm their fears, the people would find him believable when he claims to care about crime. Perhaps if Mr. Smith was a giving soul, rather than a spiteful one, churches would support and wel­come him with open arms. Perhaps if he responded to sup­porters and detractors with equal respect, citizens could rest assured that their mayor is truly working toward their benefit, not just acting the part, for those on his side. But perhaps is not the reality of now. The reality is that we have an act­ing mayor, who acts like none of these things are important. We once had Glenn D. Cunningham and a city that was a shining example of what unity can achieve. We now have a doubly powerful fill-in working with the Council to quickly make selfish dreams come true, goals previous­ly thwarted by an administration determined to represent all the people. Hopefully, this mayor act will close in the fall. Hopefully, November will bring voters that remember a golden age when "our" prosperity meant all Jersey City citizens, not just its elected officials. Hopefully we will find a candidate that does not abuse the public trust with personal attacks on infirmed woman who are not "on his side". Better now, when asked if she might pursue a legal battle Ms. Flood was uncommonly poised and gracious, "I have notified my attorney, but she is presently out of the country." Ms. Flood has weathered such storms previously. "I had to go through the same thing when I was fired by Hudson County for no reason (though reportedly, no reason translated into her involvement with the anti­Hudson County activities of the Hudson Reform Democrat Committee). We won our case then. You just have to be patient. In this business (politics), things change, and you have to under­stand that these people are doing what they believe is right." When this reporter noted the similarity of her high-road response to the beloved Cunningham, she found her only smile among her stalwart responses, "Glenn was a different kind of man. This is the way he would have wanted me to behave. He would not appreciate me acting up. I'll just have to be patient." With that spirit, and the love of her family, perhaps Willie Flood can regroup and return to fulfilling her American dream. Perhaps through her efforts and the Reform Democrat Committee, we will again see a public official using their office to ensure that all citi­tzens can achieve the American dream, rather than usurping the public trust to spitefully push opposition into an American night­mare. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN Lies Again posted Message 4359 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 16:30:58 Subject: Re: Vengeful Acting Mayor The only check UTN ever cared about was the money they took from developers and real estate owners of Jersey City for access to Glenn's office. Strange that a newspaper's owners should be paid consultants to ease the way for real estate people an uncorrupt Mayor would not allow his friends this kind of access. So UTN in your pro Glenn Stane you have revealed your true intentions robbing Jersey city. Johnson is nothing but a low down dirty corruption hustler. Ayala knew this a tried to tell Glenn to break ties with you but his good nature allowed you to stay. Fishing for a new fish in the Mayors office thats all you can expect from the Ward F ganstas of the UTN. : Vengeful Acting Mayor : By UTN Staff : Urban Times News : July 2, 2004 -- July 8, 2004 : At the Mayor-elect's funeral, US Attorney Christopher Christie provided a litany of reasons why Glenn Cunningham stood out among the corrupt politicians associated with Hudson County, "Often people who serves us (in political office) disappoint us, but when people from other places lament about politicians who line their pocket, or politicians who lie and steal, or politicians who abuse the public trust, Jersey City residents can say, 'Not us, we have Glenn Cunningham!"' That was then. We now have L. Harvey Smith. : Mr. Smith has worked hard in front of the cameras these past weeks. He has met with munici­pal combatants, posed for drug busts on TV, replaced and reor­ganized staff, always repeating his catchphrases, "...best for the city", and "...maintaining order". : Generally, imitating the actions of a beloved predecessor will suffi­ciently convince constituents of your sincerity, but we had Glenn Cunningham. Despite his public postures, Jersey City residents know Mr. Smith to be a malevo­lent individual, evidenced first by his snatching of power in the midst of the city's grief, and evi­denced even now, as he lashes out at Cunningham compatriots too devastated to fight. : Willie Flood was the closest aide to Mayor Cunningham in City Hall. A soft-spoken yet effective woman, she can now listen to the happy Cunningham anecdotes so many wish to share, but its bitter sweetness still remains. When the Mayor died, Willie had just come out of the hospital after more than three weeks of recuperating from her own illness. On June 4th, not a week after the Mayor-elect's funeral, a hand­delivered note was sent from the acting mayor's office. Retelling the tale, Ms. Flood still chokes a bit, recalling her memory of see­ing the car Glenn rode in so often, again stop at her door. But this time there would be no good news. An aide stepped out, deliv­ering a letter saying she was fired. The numbness of Cunningham's passing did not allow her to react. Two days later when she received a registered letter, she signed for what would be a duplicate copy of the same. Mr. Smith in his anx­iousness had to re-send his bad news, this time making it "offi­cial". Ms. Flood was not surprised, having seen the true behavior and heard the true voice of today's acting mayor. : However, when Ms. Flood went to City Hall to clear her desk and gather her final paycheck, she was told she would not receive one. The administrator politely informed her that her check was being held. She requested the check from her insurance policy, a policy that she paid into with each check that would cover her hospi­tal expenses. Ms. Flood was told that those funds were being gar­nished as well. When asked for an explanation, she was told that she would have to pay back her accu­mulated sick time. She had six­teen (16) days of sick leave, she used thirty-four (34). Ms. Flood was under the impression that her co-workers had donated their own sick days on her behalf. That was the benevolent example followed by a Cunningham-run office, a gift from co-workers who loved her and wished her well. It was also pre-Smith. : After re-organizing the office and reassigning office personnel, Smith decided to penalize the last person standing, Willie Flood. As she was told, there is no indica­tion that days were donated to her. Instead, the new administra­tion claims, her sick days came out of the general pool, and she had to repay them. That justified keeping her regular paycheck. Further, the administration asserts, Ms. Flood deducted insur­ance premiums from her pay­check. To "make up" for the legit­imate sick days they think should not have been taken, her insur­ance benefits check, sent to the office, would also be held. : Ms. Flood has tried to seek rea­sonable remedy for this action. The open-door policies of the truly acting mayor have repeated­ly been closed to any discussion on this matter. The personnel office when questioned by this paper cited "protocol" as their rea­son for their actions and sent us to the office of the acting mayor. When he was unavailable we were connected to the office of his aide with no phone pick-up. Messages from this paper contin­ue to be left, unanswered. The open door is obviously shut when it doesn't benefit Mr. Smith. : When asked why she thinks Mr. Smith is using his office to wreck such havoc against her, Ms. Flood, like former Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, takes the high road (perhaps the reason Mr. Smith so calculatingly chose her as his tar­get). "I understand he doesn't want to be reminded of Glenn or anybody who associated with Glenn. I was his aide. I worked closely with him. Ms. Flood expresses no vehemence toward the acting mayor offering some balance to accusations of "trying to get her". "Sure he (Smith) put other people in different places, but he fired some people too", offering some balance to accusa­tions that this might be personal. When asked why she doesn't get people to say they donated their days on her behalf, her response was equally noble, "I don't believe in disrupting people's lives for my sake. I am not that kind of per­son." Those familiar with their relationship confirm that Flood did..not really speak extensively with Smith, before or after Cunningham's passing. At the start of all this, she was out on sick leave. She was devastated by the loss of her friend. She was the least likely to be vocal in fighting back, and he did not like her, the presumption being that she was too close to the political predeces­sor of the acting mayor council president. : This is not to say Ms. Flood is any shrinking violet. She is in fact one of the leaders of the Hudson Reform Democrat Committee. While non-confrontational in her own right, she supported Cunningham wholeheartedly, particularly when her party reject­ed Smith in his rift with former Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. At the June 23rd regular council meeting, responding to Councilwoman Viola Richardson in a heated exchange, Council President Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith stood up to return, "I was a supporter until September of 1992 when he (Cunningham) came in here with citizens (HRDC and oth­ers) saying I had sold my people out!" It is disconcerting to know that from 1992 to 2004, this remains on the mind of Jersey City's purported new "man of the people". This vengeful blurt speaks much more truthfully about the motivations of Acting Mayor Council President L. Harvey Smith than any accounting error or mis­understanding about sick days. : While imitation of previous suc­cesses is the best tactic for dupli­cating that success, it also the sin­cerest form of flattery. Flattering the honorable Glenn D. Cunningham is the last thing the acting mayor of Jersey City wants to do. The facade of AMCP L. Harvey Smith will continue to crumble under the pressure of duplicating the benevolent integri­ty of Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. Few who paid attention during the previous administration are fooled. The actions of the multidimen­sional Mayor resonate deeply with all who saw or met him. Glenn was a law enforcer, so it made sense that when a crime was solved, he appeared at the crime scene. Glenn was a man of faith, so it made sense that when he attended church, clergy welcomed him with open arms. Glenn was a man of all the people. He made no distinction based on race, creed, color or polit­ical allegiance. That is why so many former Hudson County Democrats defected to his favor! People came to him when they were hurting. People knew he would use his power to help them. The Glenn D. Cunningham, who will now be memorialized via Cunningham Way, was beloved because he made politics second- I ary to improving the lives of Jersey City residents. Using his political power for revenge and spite was beneath his character. What is more, it was contrary to his belief in the responsibility given to him by the people of Jersey City. : Perhaps if he answered to the peo­ple of Jersey City rather than the City Council, the acting mayor would appreciate his power and responsibility too. Perhaps if he walked their neighborhoods and helped calm their fears, the people would find him believable when he claims to care about crime. Perhaps if Mr. Smith was a giving soul, rather than a spiteful one, churches would support and wel­come him with open arms. Perhaps if he responded to sup­porters and detractors with equal respect, citizens could rest assured that their mayor is truly working toward their benefit, not just acting the part, for those on his side. But perhaps is not the reality of now. The reality is that we have an act­ing mayor, who acts like none of these things are important. : We once had Glenn D. Cunningham and a city that was a shining example of what unity can achieve. We now have a doubly powerful fill-in working with the Council to quickly make selfish dreams come true, goals previous­ly thwarted by an administration determined to represent all the people. Hopefully, this mayor act will close in the fall. Hopefully, November will bring voters that remember a golden age when "our" prosperity meant all Jersey City citizens, not just its elected officials. Hopefully we will find a candidate that does not abuse the public trust with personal attacks on infirmed woman who are not "on his side". : Better now, when asked if she might pursue a legal battle Ms. Flood was uncommonly poised and gracious, "I have notified my attorney, but she is presently out of the country." Ms. Flood has weathered such storms previously. "I had to go through the same thing when I was fired by Hudson County for no reason (though reportedly, no reason translated into her involvement with the anti­Hudson County activities of the Hudson Reform Democrat Committee). We won our case then. You just have to be patient. In this business (politics), things change, and you have to under­stand that these people are doing what they believe is right." : When this reporter noted the similarity of her high-road response to the beloved Cunningham, she found her only smile among her stalwart responses, "Glenn was a different kind of man. This is the way he would have wanted me to behave. He would not appreciate me acting up. I'll just have to be patient." : With that spirit, and the love of her family, perhaps Willie Flood can regroup and return to fulfilling her American dream. Perhaps through her efforts and the Reform Democrat Committee, we will again see a public official using their office to ensure that all citi­tzens can achieve the American dream, rather than usurping the public trust to spitefully push opposition into an American night­mare. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Widow should run for Office posted Message 4360 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 17:31:26 Subject: ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO Widow should run for Office "The king is dead! Long live the king!" These are the words of reverence that are uttered by the people of England when their monarch 'dies and a new king ascends the Throne. Since the Middle Ages, the English populace have been most solemn in this warm custom and long time tradition. Paraphrasing these words, on the death of the Hon. Glenn D. Cunningham, we can say, "The mayor is dead! Long live his memory... and legacy!" And what a magnificent memory we have of him. His sudden and tragic passing has left a void in Jersey City, Hudson County and the entire state of New Jersey; one that probably will never be filled. Although he walked with presidents, captains and kings, Glenn Cunningham, always held people of all walks of life in high esteem and encouraged them to be the best they could be. From humble beginnings, he rose to spectacular heights in a life filled with one success after another-- serious student, proud Marine, dedicated police officer and police captain, conscientious freeholder, concerned councilman and caring council president, committed Public Safety Director, first AfricanAmerican United States Marshal for New Jersey, first African-American mayor of Jersey City and a solid state senator. A man of courage and conviction, he discharged all his responsibilities with great enthusiasm and total commitment. Glenn Cunningham never did a half-baked job. It was always first class! That was his way and, in his memory, we should emulate this outstanding trait. While he did not boast of his accomplishments, Glenn D. Cunningham was a noted historian and accomplished writer and he enjoyed spending time with young students as well as sharing moments with Senior Citizens who revered our late mayor as a son. To the students and other young people, Mayor Cunningham was their role model arid they, too, revered our beloved late Mayor. We will miss his smile, his laughter, his charm, his warm words of encouragement, his hale and heartiness, the joy he and Happiness he brought each of each of us, his leadership, and' his love. " Glenn D. Cunningham left each of us a legacy of which we forever can be proud. It would truly be a living legacy if his lovely wife and widow, Sandra Bolden-Cunningham, to whom we offer our most sincere sympathy, could be persuaded to take his place in public life and carry the torch her husband ignited. I urge the residents of Jersey City to join me in encouraging Mrs. Cunningham to seriously consider doing this. As for myself, I was privileged and proud to have known our late great mayor and state senator for over 35 years. I saw him rise to the mountain top, a summit few rarely reach, and plant his flag of personal accomplishments His word was his bond, and when you bonded with Glenn D. Cunningham, you had a good friend forever. Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, we are blessed for having crossed your path. Thank you!. ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 4361 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 17:53:53 Subject: Pete Brennan for Mayor : : HCDO will not endorse Jerry Healy for Mayor instead it will be Pete Brennan. : Pete Brennan is a gentlemen and would have a great shot to win . Just look at all the good Pete Brennan has done in Ward A... Just think what he could do for the entire City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4362 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 18:17:59 Subject: New Jersey Monthly Menendez Article . . . Menendez's rise in the high-powered world of national politics is a tribute to his cultivated abilities as well as his raw political skills. The post of caucus chairman wasn't simply handed to him; he had to campaign for it. Yet he's also been a patient mentor for some Garden State colleagues. "When I first came to Congress in 1997, Congressman Menendez was there to help me get adjusted to working in the House," says Steve Rothman, a Democrat who represents the 9th district. "I am forever grateful to him for the friendship and generosity he showed me then and all the kindnesses he has extended to me over all these years in Congress." That doesn't sound much like the man who lords over one of the state's best-known political fiefdoms. While Menendez disputes having the local clout of New Jersey political warlords such as George Norcross III of Camden County, state senator Raymond Lesniak of Union County, and former state senator John Lynch. Menendez happens to be one of the most influential congressmen in Washington and a leader of the state's congressional delegation. Still, he's more often portrayed as a local power broker than a nationally respected legislator, revered by his Hudson County constituents and reviled by opponents, who consider him a throwback to the days of political machines. Blame it on the Feud, the nasty, long-running battle that ensued between Cunningham and Menendez over local party politics, until the battleground fell silent in May, when Cunningham, 60, died after suffering a massive heart attack. The mayor's memorial service was moved to the Jersey City Armory to accommodate the overflow of mourners. Schools and government offices were closed on the day of the funeral, when a horse-drawn carriage pulled the flag-draped casket of the former Marine. The grieving process, though, was not devoid of political tensions. . . . For the complete article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aneesah posted Message 4363 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 18:49:57 Subject: Re: ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO : Widow should run for Office : "The king is dead! Long live the king!" These are the words of reverence that are uttered by the people of England when their monarch 'dies and a new king ascends the Throne. Since the Middle Ages, the English populace have been most solemn in this warm custom and long time tradition. Paraphrasing these words, on the death of the Hon. Glenn D. Cunningham, we can say, "The mayor is dead! Long live his memory... and legacy!" And what a magnificent memory we have of him. His sudden and tragic passing has left a void in Jersey City, Hudson County and the entire state of New Jersey; one that probably will never be filled. : Although he walked with presidents, captains and kings, Glenn Cunningham, always held people of all walks of life in high esteem and encouraged them to be the best they could be. From humble beginnings, he rose to spectacular heights in a life filled with one success after another-- serious student, proud Marine, dedicated police officer and police captain, conscientious freeholder, concerned councilman and caring council president, committed Public Safety Director, first AfricanAmerican United States Marshal for New Jersey, first African-American mayor of Jersey City and a solid state senator. A man of courage and conviction, he discharged all his responsibilities with great enthusiasm and total commitment. Glenn Cunningham never did a half-baked job. It was always first class! That was his way and, in his memory, we should emulate this outstanding trait. : While he did not boast of his accomplishments, Glenn D. Cunningham was a noted historian and accomplished writer and he enjoyed spending time with young students as well as sharing moments with Senior Citizens who revered our late mayor as a son. To the students and other young people, Mayor Cunningham was their role model arid they, too, revered our beloved late Mayor. We will miss his smile, his laughter, his charm, his warm words of encouragement, his hale and heartiness, the joy he and : Happiness he brought each of each of us, his leadership, and' his love. " Glenn D. Cunningham left each of us a legacy of which we forever can be proud. It would truly be a living legacy if his lovely wife and widow, Sandra Bolden-Cunningham, to whom we offer our most sincere sympathy, could be persuaded to take his place in public life and carry the torch her husband ignited. I urge the residents of Jersey City to join me in encouraging Mrs. Cunningham to seriously consider doing this. As for myself, I was privileged and proud to have known our late great mayor and state senator for over 35 years. I saw him rise to the mountain top, a summit few rarely reach, and plant his flag of personal accomplishments His word was his bond, and when you bonded with Glenn D. Cunningham, you had a good friend forever. Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, we are blessed for having crossed your path. Thank you!. : ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO : Jersey City What a wonderful letter Anthony, I too was bless to have had the opportunity to share some great moments with Glenn and his lovely wife Sandy, as for Sandy running for Mayor well just keep praying to the Almighty and seeeeeeee whatttttt happennnsss (ssmmmiiilllleeeeee) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Russo Civic Association posted Message 4364 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 18:53:41 Subject: PROJECT SOS -- SUPPORT OUR SOLDIERS Dear Editor: The Russo Civic Association has been designated as a Chapter in the “PROJECT SOS”. “SUPPORT OUR SOLDIERS” is the brainchild of Marlboro resident Andrea Mesh, “I knew if I asked people, they would help”, Mesh said. The program works this way. Hoboken residents who are serving or have relatives serving need to register with the Civic Association, either by phone 201.792.6226, e-mail (russocivic@optonline.net) or stop by at 420 Adams Street any evening. Anyone wishing to donate any of the following requested items can deliver them to the Russo Civic Association at 420 Adams Street any Monday beginning June 7, 2004 from 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM or call 201-792-6226 to arrange a pick up, if necessary. BELOW IS A LIST OF SUGGESTED ITEMS It is very important that our soldiers not only receive “Items from back home”, but also know that many people are supporting them and their families. Knowing people from their hometown are concerned with their well-being helps their morale. Thank you in advance for giving your time and efforts to this worthwhile cause. Sincerely, Michael Russo Third Ward Councilperson & Theresa Castellano First Ward Councilperson List For Our Troops In Iraq DO NOT MAIL AEROSOL CANS – THEY CAN EXPLODE – THIS INCLUDES SHAVING CREAM **AMERICAN FLAGS TO HAND OUT Entertainment: *Cards *Board Games *Toys for Kids *Music *DVD’s *Reading Materials (kids books so that Iraqi kids can learn English (Dr. Seuss) *Footballs, Nerf balls, Small bike pumps, Needles to inflate the balls, Frisbees, Etc. Personal Items: *Twin Size Sheets *Pillow *Air mattress *Lever body wipes, baby wipes & flushable wipes *Charmin and Regular toiler paper * Razors & razors blades *Foot power *Soap *Deodorant *Q-Tips *Hand Sanitiser *Socks, underwear and t-shirts *Chapstick with SPF 15 *Vitamins Medicine: *Sunscreen *Moisturizers *Foot Creams *Aspirin, Advil, Tylenol, etc *Band Aids *Antiseptic Ointment *Nail Clippers Miscellanous: *Zip lock bags in all sizes – 2 gallon is good toput clean laundry in *Laundry detergent *Bug Repellant –lotion or spray pump – DO NOT SEND ANYTHING AEROSOL *Fly strips *Dryer sheets to freshen sleeping bags *Disposable Cameras & Film *Stationary and Envelopes, *Office products ( Pens, pads, folders) *Plastic knifes, spoons and forks *Coffee mugs *Batteries mostly AA’s *Trash Bags – medium size *Rags to clean weapons with *Sun Glasses to hand out Food: *Dry Drink Mixes (iced tea,lemonade, Gatorade) *Tuna Fish *Microwave Popcorn and pasta meals *Snack foods -chips, pringles, peanuts, dried beef snacks, slim jims, sunflower seeds *Cookies - ginger snaps, peanut butter, oatmeal, chocolate chip (stay away from cookies with frosting like oreos). *Crackers – Wheat thins, crackers with peanut butter or cheese, fish crackers *Hard granola bars – the chewy ones will ship better in the winter *Canned Foods *Anything you can just add hot water to, or that can be heated in hot water *Candy-Chocolate only when its cooler *Candy to hand out to the Iraqi children (individually wrapped candies) *Gum, licorices, twizlers *Tortilla Chips, Tortengos and salsa in a plastic squeeze bottle *Simmer Sausage Rolls WITHOUT PORK IN IT *Cheese in the can *Peanut Butter *Breakfast Bars, Cereal& Milk Bars *Drink Mixes with sugar in them *Flavored Coffee, Sugar & Creamers *Tuna in the pouches with no water ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4365 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 21:39:49 Subject: SUPPORT OUR SOLDIERS - Vote for Kerry/Edwards Make sure that the man who sent our soldiers needlessly into harms way is removed from office. Vote for John Kerry in November. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Looking for a Leader posted Message 4366 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 21:41:35 Subject: God Bless Sandra Bolden - Cunningham God Bless You Sandy ........... Be Strong ....... the People Need You...... : : Widow should run for Office : : "The king is dead! Long live the king!" These are the words of reverence that are uttered by the people of England when their monarch 'dies and a new king ascends the Throne. Since the Middle Ages, the English populace have been most solemn in this warm custom and long time tradition. Paraphrasing these words, on the death of the Hon. Glenn D. Cunningham, we can say, "The mayor is dead! Long live his memory... and legacy!" And what a magnificent memory we have of him. His sudden and tragic passing has left a void in Jersey City, Hudson County and the entire state of New Jersey; one that probably will never be filled. : : Although he walked with presidents, captains and kings, Glenn Cunningham, always held people of all walks of life in high esteem and encouraged them to be the best they could be. From humble beginnings, he rose to spectacular heights in a life filled with one success after another-- serious student, proud Marine, dedicated police officer and police captain, conscientious freeholder, concerned councilman and caring council president, committed Public Safety Director, first AfricanAmerican United States Marshal for New Jersey, first African-American mayor of Jersey City and a solid state senator. A man of courage and conviction, he discharged all his responsibilities with great enthusiasm and total commitment. Glenn Cunningham never did a half-baked job. It was always first class! That was his way and, in his memory, we should emulate this outstanding trait. : : While he did not boast of his accomplishments, Glenn D. Cunningham was a noted historian and accomplished writer and he enjoyed spending time with young students as well as sharing moments with Senior Citizens who revered our late mayor as a son. To the students and other young people, Mayor Cunningham was their role model arid they, too, revered our beloved late Mayor. We will miss his smile, his laughter, his charm, his warm words of encouragement, his hale and heartiness, the joy he and : : Happiness he brought each of each of us, his leadership, and' his love. " Glenn D. Cunningham left each of us a legacy of which we forever can be proud. It would truly be a living legacy if his lovely wife and widow, Sandra Bolden-Cunningham, to whom we offer our most sincere sympathy, could be persuaded to take his place in public life and carry the torch her husband ignited. I urge the residents of Jersey City to join me in encouraging Mrs. Cunningham to seriously consider doing this. As for myself, I was privileged and proud to have known our late great mayor and state senator for over 35 years. I saw him rise to the mountain top, a summit few rarely reach, and plant his flag of personal accomplishments His word was his bond, and when you bonded with Glenn D. Cunningham, you had a good friend forever. Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, we are blessed for having crossed your path. Thank you!. : : ANTHONY L. GRAZIOSO : : Jersey City : What a wonderful letter Anthony, I too was bless to have had the opportunity to share some great moments with Glenn and his lovely wife Sandy, as for Sandy running for Mayor well just keep praying to the Almighty and seeeeeeee whatttttt happennnsss : (ssmmmiiilllleeeeee) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez - What a Phoney posted Message 4367 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 21:46:26 Subject: Barf Bag Please : . . . : Menendez's rise in the high-powered world of national politics is a tribute to his cultivated abilities as well as his raw political skills. The post of caucus chairman wasn't simply handed to him; he had to campaign for it. Yet he's also been a patient mentor for some Garden State colleagues. "When I first came to Congress in 1997, Congressman Menendez was there to help me get adjusted to working in the House," says Steve Rothman, a Democrat who represents the 9th district. "I am forever grateful to him for the friendship and generosity he showed me then and all the kindnesses he has extended to me over all these years in Congress." : That doesn't sound much like the man who lords over one of the state's best-known political fiefdoms. While Menendez disputes having the local clout of New Jersey political warlords such as George Norcross III of Camden County, state senator Raymond Lesniak of Union County, and former state senator John Lynch. Menendez happens to be one of the most influential congressmen in Washington and a leader of the state's congressional delegation. Still, he's more often portrayed as a local power broker than a nationally respected legislator, revered by his Hudson County constituents and reviled by opponents, who consider him a throwback to the days of political machines. : Blame it on the Feud, the nasty, long-running battle that ensued between Cunningham and Menendez over local party politics, until the battleground fell silent in May, when Cunningham, 60, died after suffering a massive heart attack. The mayor's memorial service was moved to the Jersey City Armory to accommodate the overflow of mourners. Schools and government offices were closed on the day of the funeral, when a horse-drawn carriage pulled the flag-draped casket of the former Marine. The grieving process, though, was not devoid of political tensions. : . . . : For the complete article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 4368 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 21:49:04 Subject: Tony is an embarassment It was one thing when Tony needed a job. Then he had to kiss the behind of the Cunningham crew. Afterall, his supposed buddy Bret stiffed him. But this continued glorification of Glenn and his wife is embarassing. I'm sure a few of Tony's old friends still stick with him. But most of the folks in Jersey City political and business circles regard Tony with disdain. They see him as nothing but a self serving fool and a joke. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Nick Riviera posted Message 4369 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 21:57:25 Subject: Naughty naughty Willie ! 34 sick days when you only had 16 ? Tsk tsk. You couldn't expect me to write a doctor's note for those extra 18 days could you ? I might do it for Bart Simpson but not for you. By the way ... didn't I see you in the hairdresser on one of those sick days ? :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4370 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 07, 2004 at 22:02:45 Subject: Christie for Governor ??? Do you really believe that Christie thought Glenn was such a saint ? I don't. I believe his appearance and speech at the Cunningham funeral was a calculated political move to damage the HCDO and enhance his possible voting prospects in the black community ... if and when he runs for Governor. I'm sure Christie was up to date on the HUD probes of the JCHA and Drayton .. as well as the Jackson/Cardwell consulting fees paid by vendors and developers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You tip my canoe and I'll tip yours too posted Message 4371 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2004 at 11:20:28 Subject: This guy has Pat O'Melia's old job. Did you forget? This guy has Pat O'Melia's old job. With most political jobs you are actually expected to do something for the tax-paying public. One and all assumes the working environment to be one of a very relaxed atmosphere. To get the plum jobs, you got to hustle for a campaign. Once your safely situated in your little niche you figure on being safely breathing easy until the next election. This ain't the King's way of doing business. His little inner circle upstair there on Central Ave don't deliver ten cent's worth of nothing to the public. I even called there once looking or Anthony Grazioso and the lady on the phone gave me an argument that she had never heard of him and there ain't never was nobody by that name on the premises. Even though JK don't ask for what would be considered by most to be work in the conventional scheme of things, you got to keep putting out for the cause. Nobody wants to be a second in line after the example of Pat O'Melia sent out to count pot holes at midnight and finally dried out like a raisin with no paycheck and no bennies. King can't you get Anthony Grazioso some sort of plack for his illegal parking? That hand written piece of notebook paper with Parking Employees I work for Jimmy King and here is his phone number so you can call to check out my story taped to the window is really cheesey way of conducting things. I got to laugh at the billboard now. It's expected for politicians to kiss babies. Jimmy King got a picture of a baby kissing him! ANd that brings up the story of the Sandra Cunningham press conference. The hint was maintaind for at least a week that this was where she was going to send up the flying balloons. The truth is that the press was shocked and the enemies eleated by the late start, the running out the door, and nothing of substance being said. Only a couple of dozen people and not much money raised and no story to tell. What was the point of it all. The question now raised is how Glenn operated with such masterful strokes and this was not pulled off well to say the very least. Did Sandra just do whatever she wanted and refused to listen? Did those steering Glenn's ship throught the reefs now go out in other directions. The press handled the whole thing very soft. Maybe they wnat to be gentle it's so clsoe to Glenn passing away. My own personal thought is that they drool at the banked millions of the war fund. The press is figuring smile and be nice so they can tap into the moolah. They will let Sandra march towards a cliff and not say nothin with hope of climbing onto the gravy train. What's Ayala doing now? Is he sailing with Sandy or is he out on a desert island? : It was one thing when Tony needed a job. Then he had to kiss the behind of the Cunningham crew. Afterall, his supposed buddy Bret stiffed him. : But this continued glorification of Glenn and his wife is embarassing. I'm sure a few of Tony's old friends still stick with him. But most of the folks in Jersey City political and business circles regard Tony with disdain. They see him as nothing but a self serving fool and a joke. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 4372 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2004 at 12:08:39 Subject: Status Quo Status Quo Urban Times News 07/02/04 - 07/08/04 Adding further distance to the division that marks the current administration, the City Council decided to maintain its newly established order by foregoing their option to vote in an interim Mayor or choose another Council President. At the City Council meeting last Wednesday, attendees were taken aback, first by the declaration of Acting Mayor Council President L. Harvey Smith and then by the exclusion of the Teardrop Monument issue from the evening's agenda. All council members were present save for Ward E Councilperson Junior Maldanado. The happy mood opening the proceedings, would not continue for long. The Council first recognized Detective James Corley, a decorated robbery detective now retiring from the Jersey City police force. Councilwoman Richardson read the resolution she sponsored honoring her friend and former co-worker, hes­itating to no avail as murmurings between Councilman Gaughan and Council President L. Harvey Smith continued in the back­ground. Upon completing her presentation, Council President Jr. Harvey Smith took stage as Acting Mayor, offering an additional proclamation that also rec­ognized Mr. Corley's 25 years of devoted service. With this happy chore complete, Council President L. Harvey Smith noti­fied the crowd that the Teardrop Monument, heavily advertised with flyers and anti-statue word­of-mouth was not an issue listed on the agenda this night. An impromptu survey showed that nearly 75% of the crowd was there to speak on the issue, explaining the standing room only crowd that filled the Council chamber. The announcement being made, some of the audience started to disperse, but the room did not empty. The same citizens pres­ent for the monument discussion stayed to witness the fate of another memorial - the dedica­tion of Montgomery Street to be known also as, Glenn D. Cunningham Way. Seizing the moment, Councilman Lipski quickly moved for a vote on an interim Jersey City mayor, nominating Council President Smith for the position. The councilman noted the legal­ities of the current administra­tion were not the question. He positioned that though the council is not required to replace the acting mayor, it is provided the opportunity within the first 30days, and should take it. Lipski appealed to the Council and Council President to maintain the spirit of checks and balances separating the leg­islative branch of government from the executive and vote for separate leadership in the best interest of the people. There is a real separation of power neces­sary. Glenn Cunningham was not sitting in this seat, presiding over this body as mayor." The audience responded enthu­siastically, a response that even the casual observer would notice, did not sit well with the dual presiding officer. Council President Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith, responded, like a candidate on the campaign trail, "The record was clear in '85 and '92 as to what the law says we must do, statutes and city statutes are clear. I am handling the situation with no difficulties. "We've done a lot of good things. Settling disagreements with United Water (UW) and the Municipal Utility Authority (MUA); a good review from Moody's; we need to move for­ward with what we've been doing. To elect an interim mayor we have to establish a vote for two positions instead of one. I'd ask my colleagues to let the 3O days move forward." As arguments against continuing in both his current positions continued, Council President Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith fumed, calming long enough to state his position, but eventually accusing Councilman Lipski of "plotting against him" directly. "This is a calculated plot by my colleague. I didn't say anything (regarding the separation of offices) and didn't want to create a rip. I think we have a spirit of cooperation and I think the city is best served by the status quo." A small but very vocal contin­gent of (presumed) citizens who were seated in the front row, whooped and hollered in sup­port of Mr. Smith. The rest of the audience listened as Councilwoman Viola Richardson ardently added her own opinion for the record. "Something is inherently wrong with the head of the legislative branch being able to veto as head of the executive branch. This is not a plot. It is my hope that we would have a mayor and a council president. The Council President's name has been put out there as a viable candidate." The rest of the Council did not receive this effort favorably. "I think this is politically motivated," said Councilman Gaughan. "Are we now to believe that Councilpersons Lipski and Richardson support the Council President?" Councilman Lipski retorted that he was, "deter­mined to not dismiss any idea that is helpful to the people of Jersey City". When Councilman Gaughan asserted that this call for a vote was additional "pressure" on the acting mayor, Councilwoman Richardson responded vehe­mently. "You are doing the same thing you did while Cunningham was in office," asserting, that he (Gaughan) and the other (anti-Cunningham) council members were the "pressure" that contributed to Cunningham's demise. This spurred words from the Mr. Smith that speak volumes to his latent anger while dismantling the inclusive policies of the previ­ous administration. "I was a supporter (of Cunningham) until September of 1992 when he came in here with citizens saying I had sold my people out!" Smith declared. Composing himself, he preached retrospectively, "We need to bury the hatchet and not in anybody's back." Councilperson Richardson, respond­ed, "I am having a great deal of trouble burying the hatchet after one month, when for two and a half years, the hatchet was buried in Glenn Cunningham's back." Council President Acting Mayor Smith did not appreciate the applause heard 'round the cham­ber, but let it subside so other members could speak. Other councilpersons weighing in on the issue seemed more con­cerned about the convenience of their own efforts than the implica­tions for a fair and democratic process. Each of the remaining councilpersons parroted the theme first heard by the Municipal Council president. Statements from Councilpersons Gaughan and Healy most suc­cinctly described the general reaction of the Council, "We would have to vote for an interim mayor and then another Council President. This aspect would make the council's adjustment more difficult." As per Councilperson Healy, "We have a law. It states what is necessary, and I have no problem with the status quo." Discussion was abruptly ended by a quick vote defeating the motion to nominate the Council President as interim mayor, lending tacit support an interpretation of council responsi­bilities that will likely be ques­tioned in November. Second reading ordinances passed with little fanfare. Ordinances 04-061 through 04­063 were all passed. These authorized the transfer of city owned property within the Boland Street Redevelopment area to the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency (04-061); amend Chapter 157 of the municipal code to exempt city community centers from fees (04-062); and a supple­ment to the code amending park­ing prohibition for street cleaning purposes (04-063). Ord. 04-066 authorizing the conveyance of 265 Martin Luther King Drive was tabled as per the Council President's request in the Council Caucus meeting. He insinuated then that he was "working toward agreements to make everyone happy," and will surely put on his mayor's hat in order to moderate negotiations away from the public eye. Public commentary regard­ing Ord. 04-065 brought endless accolades to the performance and legacy of the honorable Glenn D. Cunningham. Some speakers focused on the applicability of such a tribute when speaking about a Jersey City native who rose to be: the city's first African American Mayor, the first state Senator to be a mayor of Jersey City, the first African American to run the New Jersey office of the US Marshall Service, a decorated JC police detective, and faithful soldier of the United States Marine Corps. Others based their support on the love of a man who embraced all races, brought com­munities together and worked toward the welfare of their chil­dren and city. Some were simply bold enough to unveil their threats and remind the council that they would have the last vote in November, assuming the City Council would not do the right thing. In addressing the public before their vote, some Council mem­bers were uncharacteristically uneasy in voicing their opinions. "I want to address the black race," Council Brennan mistakenly blurt­ed. Correcting himself he added, "We disagreed, but I am still a friend to Glenn and Sandy (Mrs. Cunningham). Councilwoman Donnelly was also flustered. "I am hurt by the insinuation that I am racist if not voting, yes." Councilman Gaughan quickly voted aye, as did the ordinarily obtuse and consistently verbose Councilman Vega. Councilman Healy, the only vocal supporter of the original resolution other than Lipski and Richardson, voted in the affirmative, quickly adding that the Mayor deserved such a tribute. Both Councilpersons Lipski and Richardson were vocal in their support for the bill. Citing his many achievements and sacri­fices, Councilman Lipski spoke fondly, "..he was one of the few Americans that has served on the municipal, county, state and fed­eral level. He lived the tenets of Dr. King by judging his fellow man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his charac­ter." Councilwoman Richardson also voiced her opinion though with less sentimentality. "If you are my friend; show me now. Don't be my friend after I'm dead. I'm expecting that Glenn Cunningham will never be forgot­ten as long as I am around to do anything about it. He treated all races as if they were his own, and there will be many tributes to honor him." The ordinance passed unopposed. Additional speakers were focused on the Teardrop Memorial regardless of its agenda status. Most citizens focused on the selection process citing regulato­ry issues that were ignored. Others focused on the Russian artist, Zurov Tsereteli, creator of the Teardrop. One speaker com­piled a lengthy portfolio of his previous works that were disliked by other cities and even cited articles where his work was rejected in his hometown. Concerns regarding the Stop'n'Shop development were addressed with the Council President claiming the were very, very close to a solution. Councilwoman Donnelly also took initial step to address the waste transfer issue, circulating petitions outside the council chamber. A short recess followed giving everyone time to regroup before tackling a lengthy number of resolutions, in fact, thirteen more than originally enumerated in the Caucus meeting just two days before. Stand-outs among these resolu­tions made more acting mayor appointments to various munici­pal boards including (04-400) Mary Donnelly to the Jersey City Planning Board; (04-440 and 04­441) Phillip Webb replacing Oren Dabney and Margaret DiNardo replacing Arthur Zigman on the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency. Resolution (04-398) changes the location and time of the next regular Council Meeting to: Public School #28 (South Street in the Heights, near Central Ave.), Wednesday July 14th at 10:00 am. All resolutions were voted through with limited scrutiny. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 4373 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2004 at 13:19:41 Subject: Sandy Cunningham Sandy will not run for Mayor. Harvey Smith beat her to the punch. She will not run because only one Arfo American canidate can run and expect to have a shot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4374 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2004 at 13:49:59 Subject: Re: Sandy Cunningham : Sandy will not run for Mayor. Harvey Smith beat her to the punch. : She will not run because only one Arfo American canidate can run and expect to have a shot. Just for precision, I've got to add that Acting Mayor Smith has not announced that he will run. Everybody does assume that he is going to do so. I'll agree, as I've said before, basically, now L. Harvey Smith doesn't have to do anything to win in November. As long as he doesn't make some horrible mistake, he's got the right of way on those railroad tracks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO = Bunch Of Racists posted Message 4375 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2004 at 14:45:53 Subject: Menendez Does Not Want Harvey : : Sandy will not run for Mayor. Harvey Smith beat her to the punch. : : She will not run because only one Arfo American canidate can run and expect to have a shot. : Just for precision, I've got to add that Acting Mayor Smith has not announced that he will run. Everybody does assume that he is going to do so. : I'll agree, as I've said before, basically, now L. Harvey Smith doesn't have to do anything to win in November. As long as he doesn't make some horrible mistake, he's got the right of way on those railroad tracks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4376 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2004 at 17:49:15 Subject: Kerry in = Christie out = license to steal for Hudson County Politicians If the cat's away, the rats will play! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4377 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2004 at 21:55:23 Subject: Catholic Organization Opposes Congressman Menendez's Support of Abortion . . . In 1986 he was elected mayor of Union City, the first Hispanic to ever hold that post. While mayor he also served in the New Jersey State Assembly, followed by the State Senate. You would think, with his own Catholic upbringing and his constant Catholic culture, and the fact that Catholics number one half of his total constituency, that he would have gone against the grain of his party and seek to do what is right when he was elected to the United States House for the 13th District in 1992. But noooo! Because of his party affiliation he was even more willing to turn his back on God than his fellow Democrats. What price politics?! . . . To read the complete piece, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4378 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2004 at 21:59:12 Subject: United Jewish Communities Menendez Interview . . . Aviv: As one of your party's leaders, what are your thoughts about the crisis in the Middle East and particularly the situation in Israel? Menendez: I start from the view of thinking about what is the national interest of the United States, and what is in the national security of the United States. The answer dictates what the policy should be in our relationships with every country in the world. In the context of Israel, the answers are rather simple. Israel is our major trading partner. Israel has historical ties to the United States. Israel is the only true democracy in that part of the world. In terms of the national security of the United States, Israel is the only unshakable ally that shares common democratic principles, a common vision of where we need to go, both in the world and in the region. For both national interest and national security, the strong bond and relationship we have with Israel is incredibly important to not only maintain, but enhance. . . . For the complete piece, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** True Words posted Message 4379 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 08, 2004 at 22:06:28 Subject: Menendez = " An enemy of God " : . . . : In 1986 he was elected mayor of Union City, the first Hispanic to ever hold that post. While mayor he also served in the New Jersey State Assembly, followed by the State Senate. You would think, with his own Catholic upbringing and his constant Catholic culture, and the fact that Catholics number one half of his total constituency, that he would have gone against the grain of his party and seek to do what is right when he was elected to the United States House for the 13th District in 1992. But noooo! Because of his party affiliation he was even more willing to turn his back on God than his fellow Democrats. What price politics?! : . . . : To read the complete piece, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** icu posted Message 4380 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 09, 2004 at 16:49:19 Subject: Re: This guy has Pat O'Melia's old job. : Did you forget? This guy has Pat O'Melia's old job. With most political jobs you are actually expected to do something for the tax-paying public. One and all assumes the working environment to be one of a very relaxed atmosphere. To get the plum jobs, you got to hustle for a campaign. Once your safely situated in your little niche you figure on being safely breathing easy until the next election. This ain't the King's way of doing business. His little inner circle upstair there on Central Ave don't deliver ten cent's worth of nothing to the public. I even called there once looking or Anthony Grazioso and the lady on the phone gave me an argument that she had never heard of him and there ain't never was nobody by that name on the premises. Even though JK don't ask for what would be considered by most to be work in the conventional scheme of things, you got to keep putting out for the cause. Nobody wants to be a second in line after the example of Pat O'Melia sent out to count pot holes at midnight and finally dried out like a raisin with no paycheck and no bennies. : King can't you get Anthony Grazioso some sort of plack for his illegal parking? That hand written piece of notebook paper with Parking Employees I work for Jimmy King and here is his phone number so you can call to check out my story taped to the window is really cheesey way of conducting things. I got to laugh at the billboard now. It's expected for politicians to kiss babies. Jimmy King got a picture of a baby kissing him! : ANd that brings up the story of the Sandra Cunningham press conference. The hint was maintaind for at least a week that this was where she was going to send up the flying balloons. The truth is that the press was shocked and the enemies eleated by the late start, the running out the door, and nothing of substance being said. Only a couple of dozen people and not much money raised and no story to tell. What was the point of it all. The question now raised is how Glenn operated with such masterful strokes and this was not pulled off well to say the very least. Did Sandra just do whatever she wanted and refused to listen? Did those steering Glenn's ship throught the reefs now go out in other directions. The press handled the whole thing very soft. Maybe they wnat to be gentle it's so clsoe to Glenn passing away. My own personal thought is that they drool at the banked millions of the war fund. The press is figuring smile and be nice so they can tap into the moolah. They will let Sandra march towards a cliff and not say nothin with hope of climbing onto the gravy train. : What's Ayala doing now? Is he sailing with Sandy or is he out on a desert island? : : It was one thing when Tony needed a job. Then he had to kiss the behind of the Cunningham crew. Afterall, his supposed buddy Bret stiffed him. : : But this continued glorification of Glenn and his wife is embarassing. I'm sure a few of Tony's old friends still stick with him. But most of the folks in Jersey City political and business circles regard Tony with disdain. They see him as nothing but a self serving fool and a joke. Look for all the King's men to show up at the St. Pat's parade committee nomination meeting with 20 dollar bills and checks to vote for Jimmy for grand marshall. He tried it with the incinerator people two years ago. Dozens of them claiming the same address. More Hispanics joining the St Pats parade committee than live in San Juan. King uses his subordinates as a personal army for his various shakedowns and buffoonish antics. Dump him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN steals and lies so whats new? posted Message 4381 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 09, 2004 at 18:18:26 Subject: UTN steals and lies and nothing is new The same old spin to garner political favor and sell that influence as the expense of the public. The UTN should be ashamed at their behavior. The current Mayor is doing a great job in this difficult time. Basically Glenn was a good man but only a man that ran the city poorly very poorly in fact the city is bankrupt due to his inability to understand the ramifications of budgets and cashflows. Ayala did not help much either so the city is faced with a budget shorfall and a potential bankruptcy issue. Enough with the lies UTN rally around the mayor who is there now and get the city back on its feet because when the good man Glenn passed on financially the city was on its knees. ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 4382 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 09, 2004 at 18:58:15 Subject: SCHOOL EYES NEW LOCATION -- CITY AND BOARD AGREE TO CONTINUE SEARCH SCHOOL EYES NEW LOCATION CITY AND BOARD AGREE TO CONTINUE SEARCH ***************** End Of Article ****************** Monkey see...............................Monkey do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted Message 4383 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 09, 2004 at 20:18:27 Subject: Re: SCHOOL EYES NEW LOCATION -- CITY AND BOARD AGREE TO CONTINUE SEARCH How very Cunningham of you--------- Council does the work , you take the credit. You're a fast learner SMITH! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4384 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 09, 2004 at 21:00:49 Subject: Still a Two Horse race For Mayor OF JC Jerry Healy & Lou Manzo.Who ever wins the city will be the winner.Good & Honest Government will return to this once great City.May the best man win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4385 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 09, 2004 at 23:04:24 Subject: Re: I'm Still a Horse : This week. Maybe next week I'll be a mooseor a nurse or a doctor. i dont know. theres always tomorow. I can build sandcastles. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4386 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 10, 2004 at 05:14:35 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4387 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 10, 2004 at 05:59:32 Subject: The COUNCIL PRESIDENT should take credit for this! But, Smith IS THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT! Maybe in the press conference they could do like a time lapse photo. Then Epps could be in the picture with Acting Mayor Harvey Smith on the right and Council President Harvey Smith on the left! : How very Cunningham of you--------- : Council does the work , you take the credit. : You're a fast learner SMITH! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4388 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 10, 2004 at 08:05:20 Subject: Re: Still a Five Horse race : Me, Nurse Val, Nurse Betsy, Nurse Midge, Dr-X-Ray r racing for the beach now. if Im not the first one there, I dont get a good sandcastle building spot. Then I have to go back home and sit at the computer and make up new people to post. This gets Nancy upset. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yes but, the Mayor took the credit. posted Message 4389 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 10, 2004 at 10:05:33 Subject: Re: The COUNCIL PRESIDENT should take credit for this! : But, Smith IS THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT! : Maybe in the press conference they could do like a time lapse photo. Then Epps could be in the picture with Acting Mayor Harvey Smith on the right and Council President Harvey Smith on the left! : : How very Cunningham of you--------- : : Council does the work , you take the credit. : : You're a fast learner SMITH! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4390 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 10, 2004 at 12:36:50 Subject: With Democrats split, the new Assembly speaker in New Jersey was an unlikely candidate. And the new governor picked him. The Consensus Candidate With Democrats split, the new Assembly speaker in New Jersey was an unlikely candidate. And the new governor picked him. By Randy Diamond State Legislatures Magazine March 2002 Even in his wildest imagination, Albio Sires never thought he would become speaker of the New Jersey Assembly. "I did not get a chance to even dream about this," he says. "No, never. I mean this happened too quickly." A freshman backbencher in the chamber, his seat was closer to the door of the 80-member Assembly than to the speaker's podium. He made only a few speeches and introduced only 19 bills in his first two years in office. His status as a member of the minority Democrats assured him that his legislation would die a quick death in a chamber where the speaker holds all the cards. There's a reason the Assembly speaker is called the third most powerful elected official in New Jersey, behind the governor and the Senate president. The speaker decides which bills will live or die, determining which bills are referred to a committee for consideration and which are posted in the full Assembly for a vote. "I quickly found that unless you are in the majority, it really doesn't matter what you say," Sires says. "You could have the best ideas in the world, and they are not going to go anywhere." That all changed on Jan. 9 when Sires, an imposing figure at six feet four inches, stood for the first time behind the speaker's podium in the ornate Assembly chamber and got ready to pound the gavel. But first he had to find the gavel. A nervous Sires wondered if former Republican Speaker Jack Collins had played a joke on him. But then he looked in the drawer and realized that Collins had left it. "I guess it's state property," he joked. UNLIKELY CHOICE Sires seemed an unlikely choice for speaker when Democrats took control of the Assembly last November for the first time in a decade. Previous speakers had years of service in the Assembly. Albio Sires was just finishing his first two-year term. Sires was virtually unknown outside the North Jersey city of West New York, where he has been mayor for the last five years. He had also been a Republican for 13 of the last 15 years, switching his registration only two years ago. When James McGreevey ran for governor the first time in 1997 against incumbent Republican Christine Todd Whitman, Sires supported Whitman. But Sires's rise to power occurred because he fell into Governor-elect McGreevey's plan. . . . For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're no fun posted Message 4391 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 10, 2004 at 12:39:15 Subject: DO NOT POST using an actual name that is NOT YOUR OWN! nt. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're really no fun posted Message 4392 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 10, 2004 at 14:27:11 Subject: Re: DO NOT POST using an actual name that is NOT YOUR OWN! : nt. bawhaaaaaa ***************** End Of Article ****************** funnyface posted Message 4393 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 10, 2004 at 16:22:42 Subject: Re: DO NOT POST using an actual name that is NOT YOUR OWN! No..really...no fun.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ED Sullivan really big shoe posted Message 4394 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 10, 2004 at 20:34:07 Subject: UTN juggling damage control as records of influence peddling come out Can you imagine the shame the UTN will exhibit when the truth comes out how they used Glenn to get rich $500,000 per month a really big haul. Ayala was Glenn's friend more like a son than a staff person. The UTN wanted Ayala out and had no problem laying land mines to do it. Watch out Sandra Glenn's comrades from Ward F will trick you every time. Funny thing is Glenn was pulled apart from the HCDO by the UTN boys in their effort to isolate Glenn and keep the graft flowing directly into their pockets. The HCDO and Glenn should have remained close but the UTN would have no part in it. Due to the isolation Glenn's staf suffered from a lack of information and know how the city is now bankrupt. The UTN is a divider not a uniter they can only be hoping for another person to trick and take advantage of. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Same scam ----different players posted Message 4395 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 10, 2004 at 22:28:05 Subject: Re: UTN juggling damage control as records of influence peddling come out Roger Jones and Eddie Cheat-um have filled the shoes of Bobby Jackson and Joe Cardwell. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 4396 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 11, 2004 at 08:03:38 Subject: Tom Gaynor Should be our Mayor in Jersey City If we only could convince him to leave beautiful Avon -By-The-Sea.No Crime, No dirty streets, No Political Corruption,No UTN.What would you do if you were him? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-RAY posted Message 4397 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 11, 2004 at 10:32:42 Subject: Gaynor Must come back to Jersey City I dont care how nice it is in Avon-by-The-Sea.Tom must come back to save Jersey City from all this Political Corruption.We cant afford another four years of Scams. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yeah...RIght posted Message 4398 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 11, 2004 at 12:09:07 Subject: Gaynor is a loser If we could only convince this political hanger-on to move further away....we could all sleep better. Tom.... we wish you a long retirement in Avon by the Sea. Just don't show your scuzzy face in these parts. We know you too well. And we never did much care for you and Nancy thinking that this is your own personal political playground and litter box. Go play politics somewhere where they don't know the kind of sc-m you really are. : If we only could convince him to leave beautiful Avon -By-The-Sea.No Crime, No dirty streets, No Political Corruption,No UTN.What would you do if you were him? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4399 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 11, 2004 at 13:55:56 Subject: CNN Video: Congressman Menendez Speaks at the Re-enactment of the Hamilton-Burr Duel At an event commemorating the 200th anniversary of the duel between Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr, Congressman Robert Menendez explains that in the kinder, gentler Hudson County of today, poltical disagreements no longer result in fights to the death. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NO,,,,, THE WHOLE COUNCIL SHOULD BE GIVEN CREDIT posted Message 4400 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 11, 2004 at 15:45:14 Subject: Re: The COUNCIL PRESIDENT should take credit for this! : But, Smith IS THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT! >YES HE IS BUT, HE TOOK THE CREDIT FOR POLITICAL GAIN! : Maybe in the press conference they could do like a time lapse photo. Then Epps could be in the picture with Acting Mayor Harvey Smith on the right and Council President Harvey Smith on the left > ON THE LEFT WITH THE 8 OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ix-Nay posted Message 4401 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 11, 2004 at 19:24:19 Subject: Re: Gaynor Must come back to Jersey City : Because Avon_by the-Sea is probably evicting him. Well, there is no room at the public troughfor your loser! Find anotherbunch of decents people to agravate with ur stupidity. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4402 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 11, 2004 at 19:27:06 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor Should be the village idiot in Jersey City What would you do if you were him? Stya in buteeful Avon_by the Sea until Nurse Betsy, Nurse Val, Nurse Midge, Dr-Ix-Nay/aka Tom Gaynor gets his last remaining brain cell to work properly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Had to live in Jersey City by May 04 posted Message 4403 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 11, 2004 at 20:40:51 Subject: Too Late Tom - Residency Requirement Besides He could not get elected dogcatcher.......... If we only could convince him to leave beautiful Avon -By-The-Sea.No Crime, No dirty streets, No Political Corruption,No UTN.What would you do if you were him? ***************** End Of Article ****************** tm posted Message 4404 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 11, 2004 at 23:12:12 Subject: "Holy crow, is there going to be a gunfight?" "Holy crow, is there going to be a gunfight?" It's weeks later, but I keep talking about that June 23 City Council meeting I went to, and my friends say that I should write about it. Honestly, I didn't even try because local genius Tris McCall covered it in an entry in his Jersey City Journal*, which I reproduce here in (almost) its entirety: We're here to debate the merits of Tsereteli's infamous "Tear Of Grief" statue. In case you don't know about this controversy, Zurab Tsereteli is a Russian artist who has contributed a gift sculpture to stand as our tribute to those killed in the attack on the Twin Towers. Trouble is, the statue is ugly as hell, stands about ten stories high, and would dominate and probably ruin the amb-ience of the Owen Grundy waterfront pier. Jersey City's municipal government has made a big deal out of our status as an arts town, but didn't bother to consult with any of the area arts groups before committing to the Tsereteli proposal. None of this vexed the Cunningham Administration any, though: as a matter of fact, spokesman Stan Eason suggested that local artists were opposing the monument out of jealousy. New Mayor L. Harvey Smith is supposed to be against the sculpture, but nobody knows for sure. Hey, there's Harvey Smith now. I've never seen him in action before. He's walking around the pews, shaking hands, demuring to old ladies, smiling. First impressions: slow-moving, friendly, maybe a little insecure. Well, that'd be what you'd figure -- he must be worried sick about political skullduggery all night and day. Some of his moves have been controversial for sure -- he sacked many of the Cunningham people and replaced them with his own appointments. But there's no trace of irritation or anger on his face as he moves through the house; gentle smile, man of the manor. It's 6:23, and there's still no sign of the City Council. People are fidgeting in their seats and fanning themselves with the agenda. A few New Jersey City University art professors are passing out leaflets opposing the Tsereteli monument: there's a picture of the sculpture and a big red X over it. Subtle. The door to the chamber is wide open, but we're not getting much of a breeze. Beyond that, I'm starting to feel like New York City booking agents are running this meeting. Why are they making us wait so long? Is this standard operating procedure for the City Council? It seems like it must be: guys in suits are milling around the room, and seem in no hurry to take their seats. If the Constitutional Convention were run like this, we'd still be colonies. With nothing better to do, I look over the agenda notes, and attempt to memorize the names of the Council members. I've never found a reliable ward map of Jersey City online; I know I'm in Ward E, but I couldn't pick my councilman, Junior Maldonado, out of a lineup. Mary Donnelly, on the other hand, I recognize from the Planning Board meeting. Hilary's sense of Protestant justice is offended by Harvey Smith's twin roles: how, she asks, can he be City Council president and Mayor at the same time? Isn't that a conflict of interest?, she asks me. Hell, no, this is Hudson County. Around here, politicians gather offices like crazy philatelists collect stamps. Holy crow, it's 6:40. When is this meeting going to start? The woman next to me, wearing a large Cunningham pin, suggests loudly that they're trying to drive us away. She may be right, but I'm guessing it's just the opposite. I think it's more like waiting for an arena rock show. They don't want anybody to leave; they're running late because they're certain people aren't going to leave. When you're the biggest show in town, you can make people sweat before raising the curtain. Ten minutes later, the clerk finally calls the room to order. He discourages us from chatting, and reminds us that the fans are on because it's hot in here. Uh, we got that. We're warned that we'll be thrown out of the chambers if we have side conversations, and then we're led in a flag salute. No mention of milk money or our homework, though. The meeting begins with an award presented to a retiring policeman who has walked the beat in Jersey City for twenty-five years. He's awarded a plaque. All the councilmembers seem to know him personally. Ward F councilwoman Viola Richardson delivers the speech in his honor; she's smiling, but I can't hear a damned thing she's saying. She's nowhere near the microphone for most of it, but even when she approaches her device, it just crackles lamely. Forget about Victory Hall or Uncle Joe's, this is the local venue that needs to be wired for a superior sound system. After the presentation, Mayor Smith rises. He's no longer the friendly supplicant that he was a half-hour ago; now, fists on the desk, he's loud, firm, direct. He disappoints a good fraction of the crowd by insisting that the Tsereteli monument will not be discussed tonight. Smith asks for a show of hands: how many people here tonight are present to discuss the "Tear Of Grief"? I look around; and a little less than half of the room has thrown their hands in the air. They're not waving them like they just don't care, though -- and that's because they do care. Some raise up the pictures of the crossed-out monument in silent protest. Smith is unfazed. He points out that the discussion of the monument is not on the agenda. To save us all some time and suffering, he says, why don't you guys come back at another time? He doesn't specify when. I expect to see a mass exodus of disgusted artists to the door, but almost nobody leaves. Hmm, they must be here for something else as well. I don't wonder for long. The fireworks begin when Steve Lipski, councilman from Ward C, stands and nominates Harvey Smith for mayor. At first, I don't understand what the problem is, but then it becomes clear: Lipski is an old Cunningham ally, and he's tacitly challenging Smith's right to hold both the Council Chairmanship and the mayoral office. Hey, Hilary, somebody has taken up your instinctive objection! Smith stands and delivers his rebuttal. It's addressed to the gallery as much as it is to Lipski, and it leaves no doubt about who's in temporary but definitive charge. He makes recourse to a state succession law, but at base, his claims aren't about procedure, they're about personality. "I am handling the situation with no difficulty", Smith insists. "We have a stable situation in Jersey City". Smith seems hung up on the word "situation"; he uses it four times in three sentences. To be fair, it is something of a catch-all euphemism, and he's not really measuring his discourse at the moment. "There is no caretaking going on in the mayor's office. We had a good review from Moody's because of the stability of the person talking to you right now." Applause thunders all around me. My God, we're sitting in the middle of the L. Harvey Smith cheering section! Viola Richardson, representative of Cunningham's old ward, rises to the challenge. She's much more direct than Lipski was -- she won't pusyfoot about giving the new mayor the honor of an official title. She speaks precisely; straight to the chase, and with great passion. She's cheered on by Cunningham supporters (including the woman to my left, who's pretty brave to be sitting in such hostile territory). She's plainly worried about Smith accumulating too much power: she asks for checks and balances. Some of the guys behind us attempt to shout her down. Gah, this is getting heated. A few more barbs are traded, and then it's time to vote. I'm getting no clearer picture of our Junior Maldonado, since he's not here tonight, but the other eight are, and they're ready to roll. Mary Donnelly and Councilman Brennan both vote with Smith, and do so with little fanfare. Lipski reads excerpts from a letter about the Friends of the Loews, and votes for his own resolution. Smith, again, firmly rebuts Lipski to growing crowd approval. To the mayor's left sits Councilman Gaughan, who leans back in his chair like a warlord who's just secured his kingdom. He speaks with none of the urgency or nervousness that has characterized the discourse of the rest of the councilpeople. His attitude is that of the veteran ward heeler: shrewd, poised, patient. I don't know anything about Gaughan, but he gives an impression of great power. He strenuously supports the mayor, looking at the dissenters as he does, and accuses them firmly of political hypocrisy. A furious Richardson rises to denounce him, claiming that if there was dissention in Jersey City under the Cunningham administration, it was because the late mayor was so busy taking the knives out of his back. She squares against Gaughan, eyes blazing. Holy crow, is there going to be a gunfight? Instead, she leaves the table: she doesn't walk out, but she does retreat to the far corner of the hall. It's hard not to be sympathetic to Richardson's energetic defense of Cunningham and, by extension, Ward F -- especially because she's clearly in the minority. Commissioners Healy and Vega both vote with Smith; Vega goes so far to say he believes the current mayor is "uniquely qualified" to lead Jersey City through this time of crisis. Meanwhile, Gaughan is unflappable; he takes the opprobrium and barely moves in his seat. Rule #4080 for aspiring politicians: when you're on the winning side, you don't ever have to squirm. The clerk counts the votes, although there's no need: Lipski's resolution is rejected by a 5-2 tally (Smith abstains). Dejected, the Cunningham forces begin to file out of the hall. We stick around for a few more votes, but it's clear that the main event is over. After the third straight unanimous acceptance of a minor municipal ordinance, we figure it's time to go. Out in the lobby, by the staircase, a few disappointed artists have gathered: the discussion is still about Tsereteli, despite the slugging match we've all just witnessed. One woman asks what the shouting was about. We explain. She seems bemused; she's got no problem with Mayor Smith holding two offices -- since he opposes the monument, perhaps he can expedite its removal if he's got more power. Spoken like a true Hudson County-ite, I think to myself. Frank Hague held court here for thirty years straight. Viola Richardson notwithstanding, we're not squeamish about caudillos. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So, Madonna is out? posted Message 4405 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 12, 2004 at 01:19:59 Subject: Re: DO NOT POST using an actual name that is NOT YOUR OWN! : No..really...no fun.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 112 days to NO MORE SMITH! posted Message 4406 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 12, 2004 at 01:21:02 Subject: It's 113 Days to the November Election YEAH BABY! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVAL posted Message 4407 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 12, 2004 at 07:08:13 Subject: If not Tom Gaynor,then Lou or Jerry I can live with Lou Manzo or Jerry Healy as my Mayor of Jersey City.All i want is a honest Mayor with a brain to lead our once great city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val ain't a Gal posted Message 4408 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 12, 2004 at 08:59:47 Subject: Re: If Tom Gaynor,then let's shoot ourselves : I can live with Lou Manzo or Jerry Healy as my Mayor of Jersey City.Why not, Imoved out years ago when i couldnt feed no longer atthe publik trough. I just spend my days building sandcastles and making stupid posts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4409 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 12, 2004 at 10:04:18 Subject: And you STILL can't vote for Madonna AND HERE BABY! That is voting for two candidates at the same time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4410 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 12, 2004 at 10:06:43 Subject: And you STILL can't vote for Madonna AND HER BABY! That was ruled out as voting for TWO candidates! ***************** End Of Article ****************** lol posted Message 4411 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 12, 2004 at 11:44:38 Subject: Re: And you STILL can't vote for Madonna AND HER BABY! : That was ruled out as voting for TWO candidates! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rock the Vote!!! posted Message 4412 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 12, 2004 at 20:04:01 Subject: Voter Registration Rally -- Tuesday, July 13, 5PM Rock the Vote!!! Voter Registration Rally Tuesday, July 13, 5PM At the Hub Meet Jersey City's Hip-Hop star, Joe Budden Sponsored by the NAACP-Glenn & Sandra Cunningham Foundation & Interdenominational Ministerial Alliance ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4413 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 12, 2004 at 20:21:47 Subject: I don't believe in God. But if I did .. I'd pray for a Kerry/Edwards victory in 2004. If for no other reason than to annoy you self-righteous right wing morons. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4414 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 13, 2004 at 07:10:30 Subject: I guess Tom Gaynor is happy He got his two man race---Jerry Healy & Lou Manzo.As he said ---A Win -Win for jersey city taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4415 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 13, 2004 at 07:35:29 Subject: A super race for Mayor of Jersey City Jerry Healy & Lou Manzo Mayoral race is going to be one for the ages.Jersey City is sure to come out of this one as a winner.Two good men with brain power.Honest Government is just what Jersey City needs right now.May the best man win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ix-Nay posted Message 4416 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 13, 2004 at 07:52:09 Subject: Re: I guess Tom Gaynor is happy : He got his two brain cells working. His other selves are happy too. They may get a 5 minute rest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom No Brainer posted Message 4417 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 13, 2004 at 08:56:47 Subject: Re: A super race for Mayor of Jersey City : Jerry Healy & Lou Manzo Mayoral race is going to be one for the ages.Jersey City is sure to come out of this one as a winner.Two good men with brain power.Honest Government is just what Jersey City needs right now.May the best man win. ::An HCDO hack hasbeen supporting both candidates. His right brain dont know whta the left brain is doing. Nice touch talking about honest. How many years did you feed at the publik trough? Either way, neither one is gonna give you a job. We would tell you to go down to the beach and build your sandcastles but its raining so I suppose weare stuck with you allday. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 4418 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 13, 2004 at 10:00:16 Subject: REFORM DEMOCRATS: DUBLIN FOR FREEHOLDER REFORM DEMOCRATS: DUBLIN FOR FREEHOLDER by Arnold W. Stovell Urban Times News July 9, 2004 - July, 15, 2004 As a result of Hudson County Freeholder William Bracker pleading guilty to federal extor­tion charges, his post as the third district representative is relin­quished. The Reform Democratic Organization, which holds nearly twenty more committee seats than the Hudson County Democratic Organization, is determined to see the seat filled with their candidate. Their choice is a longtime Jersey resident and community activist Jeff Dublin. Dublin is a supervisor with the county's road department, mar­ried eight years and the father of three boys and one girl. He recently won election to the school board as the most popular candidate. Dublin is an active participant in his community. While Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham endorsed his campaign, Dublin humbly acknowledges his own local celebrity as the scion of Matthew Dublin. The senior Dublin was a founder of ACORN, and his years of community serv­ice were recognized posthumous­ly with a portion of Storm Avenue between Monticello and Summit being named after him. This Reform Democratic nomination continues the vote of confidence that resounded loudly in the School Board Elections. "Sometimes as a Reform Democrat I do not agree with their choice, but I always support the will of the people. Dublin was the will of the people. We polled all the leaders in his ward. He was the unanimous choice. Jeff works. He worked himself up from ground zero. He has never missed a meeting. I am proud to be associated with this young man," says Willie Flood, Chairperson of the Reform Democratic Organization. "I have watched him grow and work and bring people out of their homes in support of candidates like nobody else could. Most impor­tantly, Jeff motivates young peo­ple to get involved and this party needs more young people to step up." Flood comments. The soft-spoken, Dublin was the unanimous choice of Ward lead­ers and high on former Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's short list of nominees for the position. Though quiet upon first meeting, while speaking he reveals himself as determined and very focused. "I appreciate and want to thank the Reform Democratic committee for nominating me and I am ready to do this job. I started my quest for this position years ago, attending freeholder meetings and becoming involved in the community, " he relates. Dublin is confident that the rigors of his duty as a school board member and his potential respon­sibilities as a freeholder will not conflict. "I have a vested interest in Jersey City. I was raised here. I went to PS 41, Lincoln, Jersey City State and paralegal school here. My mother continues to be a teacher's aide here, after 30 years in the public school system. I believe in the public school sys­tem. My children attend Jersey City public schools. We are spend­ing a lot of money in our schools but are not getting the appropri­ate return. I know our vision for education and our vision for fiscal management in this city so I want to see what is best done for my family, Jersey City and all county residents." Jersey City Wards A, E, and F are a major portion of the freeholder's constituency, and RDC officials are determined to ensure that this seat is occupied by a candidate who actually represents his con­stituency. When asked about his plans should he win the freehold­er seat, Dublin is very clear. "I intend to work toward using the affordable housing trust fund. There have been no major afford­able housing projects since Mr. Braker and we need affordable housing in our communities. I want to organize and unify the communities of our district to make sure our voices are heard on the local, county, and state level. And I want to give honor to the memory of the Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. I want to give him thanks for having faith in me and preparing me for this and choosing me as one of the people he intended to endorse for this job when he was alive. He was my mentor and like I always tell my boys, 'If you want to be like someone, be like Glenn D. Cunningham. No one from Jersey City did more for Jersey City, the county and the state than Glenn D. Cunningham.'" Reform Democrats and Cunningham supporters are still angered by Hudson County offi­cials filling the Senate seat vacat­ed by the loss of Glenn Cunningham with a candidate whom Cunningham had defeated time and again. The Hudson County Democrats also opted to ignore the con­stituencies of the second largest city in the state for those of a city not as numerous, nor as prosper­ous. Further flouting tradition, they ignored Cunningham's widow, rather than offering her the opportunity to fill his seat as tradition dictates. Worse still, Hudson County Democrats scrambled to give the Cunningham seat to one of their own, even before funeral arrange­ments were complete. The Reform Democrats are preparing a mighty political push to snatch political control back from what they describe as the "opportunis­tic machine". "This is the first time in almost 40 years that a person of color has not been a representative in the state assembly or senate from this legislative district. The Hudson County Democrats know that, but they don't care," says Bobby Jackson, Reform Democrat leader and publisher of the Urban Times. "They want to keep the power among their cronies, but we will bring it back to the people just like when Glenn (Cunningham) was alive." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Focus Factor posted Message 4419 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 13, 2004 at 11:23:12 Subject: Re: A super race for Mayor of Jersey City What we need is Jerry Healy in the Mayor's Office. Manzo has too many negatives including a brother who will be sitting behind bars by the time he would be sworn into office. Do we really need that in JC? A Mayor with a crooked brother who made nearly a million dollars through insider trading? I think an honest man like Judge Jerry Healy would be a nice change for Jersey City. I have nothing against Manzo, but with his family problems and his Assembly seat taking up his time I think we would be better served with Mayor Healy leading our City. Good Luck Jerry. : : Jerry Healy & Lou Manzo Mayoral race is going to be one for the ages.Jersey City is sure to come out of this one as a winner.Two good men with brain power.Honest Government is just what Jersey City needs right now.May the best man win. : : ::An HCDO hack hasbeen supporting both candidates. His right brain dont know whta the left brain is doing. Nice touch talking about honest. How many years did you feed at the publik trough? Either way, neither one is gonna give you a job. : We would tell you to go down to the beach and build your sandcastles but its raining so I suppose weare stuck with you allday. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weezil Deal posted Message 4420 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 13, 2004 at 13:19:47 Subject: Dublin for Freeloader This guy has fewer brains than Willie Flood ... if that's possible. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weezil Deal posted Message 4421 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 13, 2004 at 13:21:27 Subject: I found him !! Someone with fewer brains than Willie Flood and Dublin !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weezil Deal posted Message 4422 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 13, 2004 at 13:25:31 Subject: Comfortably Numb That librium is very good for Tom. And the straitjacket keeps him from hurting himself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4423 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 13, 2004 at 13:30:34 Subject: Just came from Healy's announcement that he's running for Mayor of Jersey City in the special election this November. Just came from Healy's announcement that he's running for Mayor of Jersey City in the special election this November. Councilman Healy's wife and children stood by his side during the speech in the pavillion at Pershing Field park. A spirited crowd of over 100 rank and file Democrats, local business people, and several members of the administration of Former Mayor Bret Schundler attended the event. Neither Congressman Robert Menendez, State Senator Bernard Kenny, County Executive Tom DeGise, nor Councilman Bill Gaughan were there. I spotted a member of Robert Menendez's campaign staff. I asked the staff member if Bob Menendez was supporting Healy's campaign for Mayor. The reply was that "the Congressman is in Washington thinking about the convention." On the question if County Democratic Chair Bernard Kenny was supporting the Councilman's effort, Jim Kennelly said that Bernard Kenny has so far not done so. He went on to add that that support would be welcome but Councilman Healy would win through his own work and that of the people. I asked Healy's spokesperson, Maria Pignataro, her opinion about the opposition saying that Healy is the Heights and/or the Irish candidate. She said that Healy was a Judge and would serve all the people. By the way, Jim Kennelly insisted there be no hint that he was there on County time! Jim Kennelly told me that he was using a vacation day in order to support Jerramiah Healy's run for Mayor. In about an hour, I'll be posting images and video of the event. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4424 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 13, 2004 at 14:50:32 Subject: Councilman Jerramiah Healy with Eliu Rivera and other members of the Hispanic Community Jerramiah Healy appears Eliu Rivera and other members of the Hispanic Community at the Councilman's announcing his candidacy for Mayor of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4425 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 13, 2004 at 15:04:28 Subject: Online Video: Healy Runs for Mayor of Jersey City To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 4426 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 07:51:42 Subject: Tom Gaynor can rest on the beach now Jersey City WILL BE IN good hands soon.I hope the sun comes out in Avon-By-The-Sea for you today,Tom. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val ain't a Gal posted Message 4427 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 08:09:16 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor can rest on the beach now : Tom has finished building a sandcastle and has been double medicated. Me, Nurse Betsy, Nurse Midge, Dr-X-Ray, et al can take a breather. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 4428 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 09:04:18 Subject: Hudson County Facts They are pretty funny. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well that was amazing. How do you know? posted Message 4429 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 09:22:04 Subject: Re: Hudson County Facts : They are pretty funny. ***************** End Of Article ****************** curious posted Message 4430 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 11:32:21 Subject: Re: REFORM DEMOCRATS: DUBLIN FOR FREEHOLDER : REFORM DEMOCRATS: DUBLIN FOR FREEHOLDER : by Arnold W. Stovell : Urban Times News : July 9, 2004 - July, 15, 2004 : As a result of Hudson County Freeholder William Bracker pleading guilty to federal extor-tion charges, his post as the third district representative is relin-quished. The Reform Democratic Organization, which holds nearly twenty more committee seats than the Hudson County Democratic Organization, is determined to see the seat filled with their candidate. Their choice is a longtime Jersey resident and community activist Jeff Dublin. : Dublin is a supervisor with the county's road department, mar-ried eight years and the father of three boys and one girl. He recently won election to the school board as the most popular candidate. Dublin is an active participant in his community. While Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham endorsed his campaign, Dublin humbly acknowledges his own local celebrity as the scion of Matthew Dublin. The senior Dublin was a founder of ACORN, and his years of community serv-ice were recognized posthumous-ly with a portion of Storm Avenue between Monticello and Summit being named after him. This Reform Democratic nomination continues the vote of confidence that resounded loudly in the School Board Elections. : "Sometimes as a Reform Democrat I do not agree with their choice, but I always support the will of the people. Dublin was the will of the people. We polled all the leaders in his ward. He was the unanimous choice. Jeff works. He worked himself up from ground zero. He has never missed a meeting. I am proud to be associated with this young man," says Willie Flood, Chairperson of the Reform Democratic Organization. "I have watched him grow and work and bring people out of their homes in support of candidates like nobody else could. Most impor-tantly, Jeff motivates young peo-ple to get involved and this party needs more young people to step up." Flood comments. : The soft-spoken, Dublin was the unanimous choice of Ward lead-ers and high on former Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's short list of nominees for the position. Though quiet upon first meeting, while speaking he reveals himself as determined and very focused. "I appreciate and want to thank the Reform Democratic committee for nominating me and I am ready to do this job. I started my quest for this position years ago, attending freeholder meetings and becoming involved in the community, " he relates. : Dublin is confident that the rigors of his duty as a school board member and his potential respon-sibilities as a freeholder will not conflict. "I have a vested interest in Jersey City. I was raised here. I went to PS 41, Lincoln, Jersey City State and paralegal school here. My mother continues to be a teacher's aide here, after 30 years in the public school system. I believe in the public school sys-tem. My children attend Jersey City public schools. We are spend-ing a lot of money in our schools but are not getting the appropri-ate return. I know our vision for education and our vision for fiscal management in this city so I want to see what is best done for my family, Jersey City and all county residents." : Jersey City Wards A, E, and F are a major portion of the freeholder's constituency, and RDC officials are determined to ensure that this seat is occupied by a candidate who actually represents his con-stituency. When asked about his plans should he win the freehold-er seat, Dublin is very clear. "I intend to work toward using the affordable housing trust fund. There have been no major afford-able housing projects since Mr. Braker and we need affordable housing in our communities. I want to organize and unify the communities of our district to make sure our voices are heard on the local, county, and state level. And I want to give honor to the memory of the Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. I want to give him thanks for having faith in me and preparing me for this and choosing me as one of the people he intended to endorse for this job when he was alive. He was my mentor and like I always tell my boys, 'If you want to be like someone, be like Glenn D. Cunningham. No one from Jersey City did more for Jersey City, the county and the state than Glenn D. Cunningham.'" : Reform Democrats and Cunningham supporters are still angered by Hudson County offi-cials filling the Senate seat vacat-ed by the loss of Glenn Cunningham with a candidate whom Cunningham had defeated time and again. : The Hudson County Democrats also opted to ignore the con-stituencies of the second largest city in the state for those of a city not as numerous, nor as prosper-ous. Further flouting tradition, they ignored Cunningham's widow, rather than offering her the opportunity to fill his seat as tradition dictates. Worse still, Hudson County Democrats scrambled to give the Cunningham seat to one of their own, even before funeral arrange-ments were complete. The Reform Democrats are preparing a mighty political push to snatch political control back from what they describe as the "opportunis-tic machine". : "This is the first time in almost 40 years that a person of color has not been a representative in the state assembly or senate from this legislative district. The Hudson County Democrats know that, but they don't care," says Bobby Jackson, Reform Democrat leader and publisher of the Urban Times. "They want to keep the power among their cronies, but we will bring it back to the people just like when Glenn (Cunningham) was alive." ***************** End Of Article ****************** c(f)urious posted Message 4431 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 11:41:41 Subject: Re: REFORM DEMOCRATS: DUBLIN FOR FREEHOLDER : REFORM DEMOCRATS: DUBLIN FOR FREEHOLDER : by Arnold W. Stovell : Urban Times News : July 9, 2004 - July, 15, 2004 : As a result of Hudson County Freeholder William Bracker pleading guilty to federal extor-tion charges, his post as the third district representative is relin-quished. The Reform Democratic Organization, which holds nearly twenty more committee seats than the Hudson County Democratic Organization, is determined to see the seat filled with their candidate. Their choice is a longtime Jersey resident and community activist Jeff Dublin. : Dublin is a supervisor with the county's road department, mar-ried eight years and the father of three boys and one girl. He recently won election to the school board as the most popular candidate. Dublin is an active participant in his community. While Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham endorsed his campaign, Dublin humbly acknowledges his own local celebrity as the scion of Matthew Dublin. The senior Dublin was a founder of ACORN, and his years of community serv-ice were recognized posthumous-ly with a portion of Storm Avenue between Monticello and Summit being named after him. This Reform Democratic nomination continues the vote of confidence that resounded loudly in the School Board Elections. : "Sometimes as a Reform Democrat I do not agree with their choice, but I always support the will of the people. Dublin was the will of the people. We polled all the leaders in his ward. He was the unanimous choice. Jeff works. He worked himself up from ground zero. He has never missed a meeting. I am proud to be associated with this young man," says Willie Flood, Chairperson of the Reform Democratic Organization. "I have watched him grow and work and bring people out of their homes in support of candidates like nobody else could. Most impor-tantly, Jeff motivates young peo-ple to get involved and this party needs more young people to step up." Flood comments. : The soft-spoken, Dublin was the unanimous choice of Ward lead-ers and high on former Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's short list of nominees for the position. Though quiet upon first meeting, while speaking he reveals himself as determined and very focused. "I appreciate and want to thank the Reform Democratic committee for nominating me and I am ready to do this job. I started my quest for this position years ago, attending freeholder meetings and becoming involved in the community, " he relates. : Dublin is confident that the rigors of his duty as a school board member and his potential respon-sibilities as a freeholder will not conflict. "I have a vested interest in Jersey City. I was raised here. I went to PS 41, Lincoln, Jersey City State and paralegal school here. My mother continues to be a teacher's aide here, after 30 years in the public school system. I believe in the public school sys-tem. My children attend Jersey City public schools. We are spend-ing a lot of money in our schools but are not getting the appropri-ate return. I know our vision for education and our vision for fiscal management in this city so I want to see what is best done for my family, Jersey City and all county residents." : Jersey City Wards A, E, and F are a major portion of the freeholder's constituency, and RDC officials are determined to ensure that this seat is occupied by a candidate who actually represents his con-stituency. When asked about his plans should he win the freehold-er seat, Dublin is very clear. "I intend to work toward using the affordable housing trust fund. There have been no major afford-able housing projects since Mr. Braker and we need affordable housing in our communities. I want to organize and unify the communities of our district to make sure our voices are heard on the local, county, and state level. And I want to give honor to the memory of the Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. I want to give him thanks for having faith in me and preparing me for this and choosing me as one of the people he intended to endorse for this job when he was alive. He was my mentor and like I always tell my boys, 'If you want to be like someone, be like Glenn D. Cunningham. No one from Jersey City did more for Jersey City, the county and the state than Glenn D. Cunningham.'" : Reform Democrats and Cunningham supporters are still angered by Hudson County offi-cials filling the Senate seat vacat-ed by the loss of Glenn Cunningham with a candidate whom Cunningham had defeated time and again. : The Hudson County Democrats also opted to ignore the con-stituencies of the second largest city in the state for those of a city not as numerous, nor as prosper-ous. Further flouting tradition, they ignored Cunningham's widow, rather than offering her the opportunity to fill his seat as tradition dictates. Worse still, Hudson County Democrats scrambled to give the Cunningham seat to one of their own, even before funeral arrange-ments were complete. The Reform Democrats are preparing a mighty political push to snatch political control back from what they describe as the "opportunis-tic machine". : "This is the first time in almost 40 years that a person of color has not been a representative in the state assembly or senate from this legislative district. The Hudson County Democrats know that, but they don't care," says Bobby Jackson, Reform Democrat leader and publisher of the Urban Times. "They want to keep the power among their cronies, but we will bring it back to the people just like when Glenn (Cunningham) was alive." Mr. Stovell, can you cite any local examples of the "tradition" which "dictates" that a widow fill the unexpired term of her office holding husband? The last sentence of your article easily diagrams to "power to the people." Who are the "people" to whom you refer? Those of us who remember the sixties know well who they are. Is this where you and the UTN want to return us? ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 4432 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 14:43:32 Subject: Healy/Odea Jerry Healy needs help from Bill Odea to pull this election off. If Odea endorses Healy with the HCDO's support he will have the best shot to win. If Odea goes with Manzo, Healy will be behind Manzo and Smith in that order. The HCDO's best shot is to back Smith,Brennan or Gaughan if not they might be out until at least May 05. Lets hope they decide to go with Gaughan...... ***************** End Of Article ****************** 2nd time around is the better time around posted Message 4433 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 15:52:59 Subject: Maggie Doyle and Democrats for Schundler A guy at the barbershop was telling everybody that Maggie Doyles running a Democrats for Schundler club. Is anybody know how to join the membership? ***************** End Of Article ****************** 2nd time around is the better time around posted Message 4433 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 15:52:59 Subject: Maggie Doyle and Democrats for Schundler A guy at the barbershop was telling everybody that Maggie Doyles running a Democrats for Schundler club. Is anybody know how to join the membership? ***************** End Of Article ****************** 2nd time around is the better time around posted Message 4434 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 16:01:28 Subject: Maggie Doyle and Democrats for Schundler A guy at the barbershop was telling everybody that Maggie Doyle is running a Democrats for Schundler club. Does anybody know how to join the membership? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BJ posted Message 4435 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 16:03:02 Subject: Re: Maggie Doyle and Democrats for Schundler FROM MAGGIE: A guy at the barbershop was telling everybody that Maggie Doyle is running a Democrats for Schundler club. Does anybody know how to join the membership? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr KillJoy posted Message 4436 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 16:49:11 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor can rest on the beach now Yes....he's medicated, but is he tightly bound to a chair and gagged? Afterall....we can't take any chances with our prize psych ward patient. ;) : : Tom has finished building a sandcastle and has been double medicated. : Me, Nurse Betsy, Nurse Midge, Dr-X-Ray, et al can take a breather. ***************** End Of Article ****************** IF YOU HAVEN'T ANY BRAINS _ USE YOUR BODY! posted Message 4437 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 14, 2004 at 20:11:18 Subject: Re: Maggie Doyle and Democrats for Schundler : A guy at the barbershop was telling everybody that Maggie Doyle is running a Democrats for Schundler club. Does anybody know how to join the membership? Well first you spread your _ _ _ _! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseMidge posted Message 4438 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2004 at 07:28:57 Subject: Why is Tom Gaynor reading the book."THE Prince"? He sits on the beach in Avon By The Sea all day with his coffee & the book. He wont talk to anyone except Macchiavelli. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseSmidge posted Message 4439 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2004 at 08:05:01 Subject: Re: Why is Tom Gaynor reading the book."THE Prince"? : Cause it is ALL pictures. It contains great examples of new castles he can build in the sand too! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 4440 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2004 at 09:12:02 Subject: Hudson County Facts Can you archive, maybe, 1 week at a time? I would like to print them & send them to a friend in Tennessee as a prime example of HC politics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4441 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2004 at 10:16:22 Subject: Re: Hudson County Facts : Can you archive, maybe, 1 week at a time? : I would like to print them & send them to a friend in Tennessee as a prime example of HC politics. Glad you like them. In a day or so, I'll start an archive Page. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4442 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2004 at 10:57:49 Subject: Jump in now the water in fine If you are going to run for Mayor of Jersey City,annouce now. So that the Taxpayers will have a chance to hear you you got to offer.Honest And good Government ,i hope. That would be a good start.There are a lot of games being played behind the scenes that are not good for the city.More on this later. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom NoBrainer posted Message 4443 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2004 at 15:06:08 Subject: Re: Jump in now the water in fine : And please throw me my lead "floaties". I keep coming to the surface! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4444 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2004 at 16:13:38 Subject: The Corzine Factor I am guessing that Corzine will step in to replace McGreevey as the scandals mount. Too bad Bret and Maggie. Bwahahahahahahaha !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Beach Bum posted Message 4445 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2004 at 16:16:40 Subject: I got an idea. Bury da mutha up to his neck in da sand. He'll rest betta dat way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4446 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2004 at 16:19:39 Subject: Messages concerning the national campaigns are only allowed if the post DIRECTLY relates to Hudson County! I guess racist propaganda is allowed ... as long as it's about Hudson County. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4447 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2004 at 16:25:52 Subject: Re: Messages concerning the national campaigns are only allowed if the post DIRECTLY relates to Hudson County! : I guess racist propaganda is allowed ... as long as it's about Hudson County. I thought Zulima Farber was happy with her new job. . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJ Senate Democrats posted Message 4448 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2004 at 16:27:36 Subject: DORIA SECURES INCREASED BUDGET FUNDING FOR HUDSON COUNTY FOR RELEASE: Immediate July 15, 2004 CONTACT: Cara Noel Tel: (609) 292-5215 DORIA SECURES INCREASED BUDGET FUNDING FOR HUDSON COUNTY TRENTON - Senator Joseph V. Doria praised fellow state Democrats for their passage of the Fiscal Year 2005 budget, which includes increased funding for schools, charity care programs, senior citizens and working families. "This budget truly benefits Hudson County by earmarking funds for its children, seniors and medically uninsured," said Senator Doria, D-Hudson, who is also mayor of Bayonne. "The Democrats fought for this budget because we believe in helping people, and what is more important than education, affordable housing and medical care?" Included in the budget is an increase of nearly $5 million in Charity Care funding for Hudson's hospitals, which includes a total of $3.1 million Bayonne Medical Center and $ 1.8 million for Jersey City Medical Center, which will allow them to provide more care for uninsured patients. Also included in the budget is $1.6 million for the Jersey City Armory to expand and develop more recreation programs for area youth. The budget also includes increased funding for Abbott schools and an increase of $655,752 for Bayonne City, a low income non-Abbott school district. New Jersey City University is also scheduled to receive $620,000 for high enrollment growth adjustment. The budget also allocates funding for the Homestead rebate program for senior citizens, which awards up to $1200 to residents over the age of 65. Also included is property tax relief of up to $800 for New Jersey's middle class residents. "This funding is going toward the people who really need it," said Senator Doria. "It is going to fund schools, hospitals and even provide some relief for seniors and working families. These people fight to get us elected and work to help keep us in office because they know we will represent their best interests. If we don't fight for them, who will?" ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** gogo dance posted Message 4449 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 15, 2004 at 21:28:39 Subject: new freeholder Jeff Dublin is the new freeholder ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 4450 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 16, 2004 at 08:11:46 Subject: Leave Avon By The Sea and Save us from Bad Government Tom, this is your duty to the taxpayers of JC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4451 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 16, 2004 at 08:56:00 Subject: Re: Leave Avon By The Sea and Save us from Bad Government : Tom, this is your duty to the taxpayers of JC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4452 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 16, 2004 at 08:56:52 Subject: Re: Dont Leave Avon By The Sea and Save us from Bad Government : Tom, this is your duty to the taxpayers of JC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ugh posted Message 4453 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 16, 2004 at 09:38:25 Subject: Re: Maggie Doyle and Democrats for Schundler : : A guy at the barbershop was telling everybody that Maggie Doyle is running a Democrats for Schundler club. Does anybody know how to join the membership? : Well first you spread your _ _ _ _! Many are called and all are chosen. Hudson's own Monica. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4454 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 16, 2004 at 12:27:12 Subject: DeGise told Menendez and Kenny that Morgan had the votes? I hear that DeGise told Menendez and Kenny that Rev. Chess had swayed enough votes to carry Morgan. Don't count your votes till their cast! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4455 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 17, 2004 at 10:34:43 Subject: Menendez Campaign Office Phone Disconnected It looks like the Republicans are just going to have to wait to 2006. Bob Menendez is so sure of winning that his organization turned off the phone line to his campaign office. (I rewrote that last line sentence times. Someone is screaming over my shoulder that I shouldn't let it look like I'm hinting that they didn't pay the bill.) If you wanted to make a donation, not to worry. The Finance Office line remains fully functional. ***************** End Of Article ****************** nutrition facts posted Message 4456 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 17, 2004 at 22:42:13 Subject: we want a new mayor I'm a taxpayer who would like to see Manzo or Healy Mayor. please NO Harvey Smith. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 4457 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2004 at 06:42:30 Subject: If not Tom Gaynor Then Jedsey DiMatteo For Mayor Wake up and pick the best Jersey City has to offe.Jedsey fills that bill. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val ain't a Gal posted Message 4458 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2004 at 07:44:00 Subject: Re: If not Tom Gaynor Then Jedsey DiMatteo For Mayor Hey Tom, Geta life. You are a big bore. you used to befunny now youre just a brain dead idiot who bilked the people of Jersey City then moved outlike the rest of the crooks you call friends. Why dont you and your other selves take a long walk off a short pier. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So, R U proud of your friend now? Guess you just learned a lesson...sorry it had to be this way. U honestly trusted and fought 4 him. posted Message 4459 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2004 at 09:28:55 Subject: Smith an evil, rotten ,and childish man! : I'm a taxpayer who would like to see Manzo or Healy Mayor. please NO Harvey Smith. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4460 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2004 at 10:36:14 Subject: Hudson County Facts Now Archived To access the stored wisdom of a lifetime, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Dooby-Doo posted Message 4461 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2004 at 15:05:51 Subject: Re: Hudson County Facts Now Archived Thank you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4462 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2004 at 18:49:47 Subject: The Democrats' Best-Known Hispanic From today's New York Times, Week in Review section: "Bill Richardson of New Mexico, the party's best-known Hispanic, will share a crowded dance card on Wednesday with John Edwards, the vice presidential nominee." I sorta remember reading something else in the Jersey Journal. . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 4463 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 18, 2004 at 23:14:50 Subject: Moron Alert ! Don't you morons have anything better to do than post your inane crap in this room ? Guess not. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4464 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 07:27:35 Subject: Best known Irishman A tie Between Tom Gaynor& Jerry McCann.They both put Jersey City on the map for different reasons.Oh.To bring basck the good "Ole Days" ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4465 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 08:22:41 Subject: Online NJN Audio: June 2003 Paul Byrrne Interview To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rick Shaw posted Message 4466 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 08:31:22 Subject: Uh Oh The only people posting on this board are Anthony, Tom Gaynor and me. Excuse me while I go outside and shoot myself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4467 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 08:54:51 Subject: Do I send the flowers to Summit and Lincoln? : The only people posting on this board are Anthony, Tom Gaynor and me. Excuse me while I go outside and shoot myself. Don't let the door hit'ya in the . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4468 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 14:27:37 Subject: Ronald Buonocore to run for Mayor? I heard a rumor today that Ronald Buonocore is going to run for Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone posted Message 4469 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 14:45:40 Subject: Property Tax Reimbursement Checks ASSEMBLYMAN CHIAPPONE ANNOUNCES MAILING OF PROPERTY TAX REIMBURSEMENT CHECKS Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone (31st District)has announced that the Division of Taxation has begun mailing the Property Tax Reimbursement (PTR), checks to eligible applicants. The Division has until September 1 to issue reimbursement checks for applicants who filed between May 1 and June 1, 2004. Reimbursements for applications received after June 1, but before the extended filing deadline of August 2, 2004, will be issued as quickly as possible. Chiappone stated, “The Division of Taxation has informed me that this year's checks represent the amount of the reimbursement based on the 2003 application. In the case of eligible applicants who filed for the first time last year but did not receive a check, the 2003 reimbursement represents the difference between the amount of the 2003 property taxes paid and the amount of the 2001 (base year) taxes. If anyone has any questions about the status of their PTR checks please feel free to call my office at 201-437-2442. In addition, with the extension to August 2 of the filing deadline for Property Tax Reimbursement, my office will be happy to help those who require assistance in filling out their forms as well as check for eligibility.” The Division is mailing more than 80,000 checks, which average $416. In addition, we are mailing 17,000 notices to applicants who did not provide all the necessary information and/or documentation required to issue a reimbursement. Chiappone notes that residents may also send an inquiry to the Division of Taxation e-mail address: njpropertytaxrelief@tax.state.nj.us. The Property Tax Reimbursement Hotline is: 1-800-882-6597 (8:30 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Mon-Fri) TTY Equipment Users: 1-800-286-6613 or 609-984-7300 Taxation e-mail address: taxation@tax.state.nj.us Chiappone also indicated that information about the mailing of the 2003 homestead rebate checks will be forthcoming within the next two weeks. Please do not hesitate to contact our office at 201-437-2442 or stop by at 595 Broadway, if there is anything other information needed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4470 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 15:38:48 Subject: The other part of the story is that Sandra Cunningham will endorse Ronald Buonocore for Mayor. : I heard a rumor today that Ronald Buonocore is going to run for Mayor. The other part of the story is that Sandra Cunningham will endorse Ronald Buonocore for Mayor. I'm sure that Chief Buonocore would be a solid contender on his own. Of course, Sandra Cunningham's nod will help. The real one-two punch will be if Sandra Cunningham is running for State Senate. Then, with Sandra and Ron campaigning together, Ronald Buonocore can assure Bayonne that the Cunningham name means safe streets Then, whatever hope Doria has of holding onto the Senate Seat fades fast. And in Jersey City, if Ron is on a Cunningham ticket, he can expect a big turnout in Ward F. In the City's other Wards, there's no reason to expect Jerramiah Healy, Lou Manzo, or L. Harvey Smith to have any overwhelming advantage over Ronald Buonocore. Healy, Manzo, and Smith might have an edge in name recogntion -- right now. Certainly, they won't be able to use law and order as an issue if running against the Police Chief. Would Ronald Buonocore have to take a leave of absence from the Police Chief job if he decides to run for Mayor ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good Bye HCIA posted Message 4471 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 16:49:41 Subject: Paul Byrne Pleads Guilty - 2 Counts 07-19-04 -- Byrne, Paul -- Guilty Plea -- News Release Janiszewski Associate Paul Byrne Admits Being Intermediary in Hudson County Bribe Scheme NEWARK - Paul Byrne, once a close associate of former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski, pleaded guilty today, admitting that he acted as an intermediary in passing cash payments to Janiszewski in return for government action on renewal of county contracts with the Lisa & Associates accounting firm, U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie announced. Byrne, 58, of Jersey City, admitted before U.S. District Judge Joel A. Pisano that he solicited and passed along $6,150 in cash payments from Gerard Lisa to Janiszewski at the end of 2000 and early months of 2001. Byrne admitted that he received more than that amount from Lisa and kept the difference for himself and that Lisa paid certain of his personal expenses. Byrne pleaded guilty to one count of extortion, which carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine, and one count of tax evasion, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Judge Pisano scheduled sentencing for Oct. 25. On June 22, Hudson County waterfront developer Joseph Barry pleaded guilty to making cash payments totaling $114,900 for Janiszewski's help in getting federal and state grants and loans for the Barry company's Shipyard project in Hoboken. Barry and Byrne were both charged in the same Indictment on Oct. 15, 2003. Lisa, the owner and operator of his Hoboken-based accounting firm, pleaded guilty July 25, 2003. Lisa admitted that each year from 1997 through 2001, he made corrupt payments in order to secure the renewal of his firm's auditing contract with Hudson County. Lisa admitted that he made the payments to then-Hudson County Executive Janiszewski through an intermediary. The intermediary was not named at the time but is now known to have been Byrne. Byrne also admitted today that he did not file federal income tax returns for 1999, 2000 and 2001. For those years, he admitted that he owes more than $200,000 in unpaid federal taxes on income that included the bribe money he received and kept from Lisa. Christie credited Special Agents of the FBI, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Joseph Billy Jr.; and Special Agents of the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation section in Newark, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Patricia J. Haynes; and Special Agents with the Department of Housing and Urban Development, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Ruth Ritzema, in Newark, with developing the case against Barry. The case is being prosecuted by Deputy Chief Jeffrey Clark, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Deborah Goldklang, of the U.S. Attorney's Office Special Prosecutions Division. -end- Byrne - John T. Coyle, Esq. and Elise DiNardo, Esq. ***************** End Of Article ****************** And He IS NOT COOPERATING ??? LOL posted Message 4472 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 16:58:26 Subject: Faces Up To 25 Years in Prison : 07-19-04 -- Byrne, Paul -- Guilty Plea -- News Release : Janiszewski Associate Paul Byrne Admits Being Intermediary in Hudson County Bribe Scheme : NEWARK - Paul Byrne, once a close associate of former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski, pleaded guilty today, admitting that he acted as an intermediary in passing cash payments to Janiszewski in return for government action on renewal of county contracts with the Lisa & Associates accounting firm, U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie announced. : Byrne, 58, of Jersey City, admitted before U.S. District Judge Joel A. Pisano that he solicited and passed along $6,150 in cash payments from Gerard Lisa to Janiszewski at the end of 2000 and early months of 2001. Byrne admitted that he received more than that amount from Lisa and kept the difference for himself and that Lisa paid certain of his personal expenses. : Byrne pleaded guilty to one count of extortion, which carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine, and one count of tax evasion, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Judge Pisano scheduled sentencing for Oct. 25. : On June 22, Hudson County waterfront developer Joseph Barry pleaded guilty to making cash payments totaling $114,900 for Janiszewski's help in getting federal and state grants and loans for the Barry company's Shipyard project in Hoboken. Barry and Byrne were both charged in the same Indictment on Oct. 15, 2003. : Lisa, the owner and operator of his Hoboken-based accounting firm, pleaded guilty July 25, 2003. Lisa admitted that each year from 1997 through 2001, he made corrupt payments in order to secure the renewal of his firm's auditing contract with Hudson County. Lisa admitted that he made the payments to then-Hudson County Executive Janiszewski through an intermediary. The intermediary was not named at the time but is now known to have been Byrne. : Byrne also admitted today that he did not file federal income tax returns for 1999, 2000 and 2001. For those years, he admitted that he owes more than $200,000 in unpaid federal taxes on income that included the bribe money he received and kept from Lisa. : Christie credited Special Agents of the FBI, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Joseph Billy Jr.; and Special Agents of the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation section in Newark, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Patricia J. Haynes; and Special Agents with the Department of Housing and Urban Development, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Ruth Ritzema, in Newark, with developing the case against Barry. : The case is being prosecuted by Deputy Chief Jeffrey Clark, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Deborah Goldklang, of the U.S. Attorney's Office Special Prosecutions Division. : -end- : Byrne - John T. Coyle, Esq. and Elise DiNardo, Esq. ***************** End Of Article ****************** What about the other bribes he took??? posted Message 4473 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 17:33:10 Subject: Re: Paul Byrne Pleads Guilty - 2 Counts So does that mean Byrne gets away with taking bribes from Rossi Psych Services? No questions about the rush to privitization of psych services at HC Correctional, Pollock and Meadowview? No questions about what amounted to a non-competitive rigged bidding process? Maybe Christie should talk to Haydee Miranda for the details. : 07-19-04 -- Byrne, Paul -- Guilty Plea -- News Release : Janiszewski Associate Paul Byrne Admits Being Intermediary in Hudson County Bribe Scheme : NEWARK - Paul Byrne, once a close associate of former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski, pleaded guilty today, admitting that he acted as an intermediary in passing cash payments to Janiszewski in return for government action on renewal of county contracts with the Lisa & Associates accounting firm, U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie announced. : Byrne, 58, of Jersey City, admitted before U.S. District Judge Joel A. Pisano that he solicited and passed along $6,150 in cash payments from Gerard Lisa to Janiszewski at the end of 2000 and early months of 2001. Byrne admitted that he received more than that amount from Lisa and kept the difference for himself and that Lisa paid certain of his personal expenses. : Byrne pleaded guilty to one count of extortion, which carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine, and one count of tax evasion, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Judge Pisano scheduled sentencing for Oct. 25. : On June 22, Hudson County waterfront developer Joseph Barry pleaded guilty to making cash payments totaling $114,900 for Janiszewski's help in getting federal and state grants and loans for the Barry company's Shipyard project in Hoboken. Barry and Byrne were both charged in the same Indictment on Oct. 15, 2003. : Lisa, the owner and operator of his Hoboken-based accounting firm, pleaded guilty July 25, 2003. Lisa admitted that each year from 1997 through 2001, he made corrupt payments in order to secure the renewal of his firm's auditing contract with Hudson County. Lisa admitted that he made the payments to then-Hudson County Executive Janiszewski through an intermediary. The intermediary was not named at the time but is now known to have been Byrne. : Byrne also admitted today that he did not file federal income tax returns for 1999, 2000 and 2001. For those years, he admitted that he owes more than $200,000 in unpaid federal taxes on income that included the bribe money he received and kept from Lisa. : Christie credited Special Agents of the FBI, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Joseph Billy Jr.; and Special Agents of the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation section in Newark, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Patricia J. Haynes; and Special Agents with the Department of Housing and Urban Development, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Ruth Ritzema, in Newark, with developing the case against Barry. : The case is being prosecuted by Deputy Chief Jeffrey Clark, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Deborah Goldklang, of the U.S. Attorney's Office Special Prosecutions Division. : -end- : Byrne - John T. Coyle, Esq. and Elise DiNardo, Esq. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ix-Nay posted Message 4474 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 19:59:06 Subject: Re: Best known Irishman ::::All this proves is that your face is the brownest brown there is. Whose butt aint you willing to kiss for a shot at feeding at the publik trough again? : A tie Between Tom Gaynor& Jerry McCann.They both put Jersey City on the map for different reasons.Oh.To bring basck the good "Ole Days" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Officer Barbrady posted Message 4475 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 21:51:54 Subject: It would be nice .. if Buonocore actually lived in Jersey City. I know he has an address here. But he doesn't actually reside here. As to a leave of absence, I'm sure he'll want to be both Police Director and Mayor so he can get 2 salaries. It's his. MO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dorian Grey posted Message 4476 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 19, 2004 at 21:57:31 Subject: The Profligate Paul Byrne lived a life of excess. He lived high on the hog with all the graft he took. All the trips, good food, free cars. And now he is a poor dissolute figure. Blind and on his way to prison. How the mighty have fallen. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jay Edgar posted Message 4477 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2004 at 01:01:35 Subject: Re: Paul Byrne Pleads Guilty - 2 Counts Wonder if lil' Tony Soares is sleeping well these days. : Janiszewski Associate Paul Byrne Admits Being Intermediary in Hudson County Bribe Scheme : NEWARK - Paul Byrne, once a close associate of former Hudson County Executive Robert Janiszewski, pleaded guilty today, admitting that he acted as an intermediary in passing cash payments to Janiszewski in return for government action on renewal of county contracts with the Lisa & Associates accounting firm, U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie announced. : Byrne, 58, of Jersey City, admitted before U.S. District Judge Joel A. Pisano that he solicited and passed along $6,150 in cash payments from Gerard Lisa to Janiszewski at the end of 2000 and early months of 2001. Byrne admitted that he received more than that amount from Lisa and kept the difference for himself and that Lisa paid certain of his personal expenses. : Byrne pleaded guilty to one count of extortion, which carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine, and one count of tax evasion, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Judge Pisano scheduled sentencing for Oct. 25. : On June 22, Hudson County waterfront developer Joseph Barry pleaded guilty to making cash payments totaling $114,900 for Janiszewski's help in getting federal and state grants and loans for the Barry company's Shipyard project in Hoboken. Barry and Byrne were both charged in the same Indictment on Oct. 15, 2003. : Lisa, the owner and operator of his Hoboken-based accounting firm, pleaded guilty July 25, 2003. Lisa admitted that each year from 1997 through 2001, he made corrupt payments in order to secure the renewal of his firm's auditing contract with Hudson County. Lisa admitted that he made the payments to then-Hudson County Executive Janiszewski through an intermediary. The intermediary was not named at the time but is now known to have been Byrne. : Byrne also admitted today that he did not file federal income tax returns for 1999, 2000 and 2001. For those years, he admitted that he owes more than $200,000 in unpaid federal taxes on income that included the bribe money he received and kept from Lisa. : Christie credited Special Agents of the FBI, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Joseph Billy Jr.; and Special Agents of the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation section in Newark, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Patricia J. Haynes; and Special Agents with the Department of Housing and Urban Development, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Ruth Ritzema, in Newark, with developing the case against Barry. : The case is being prosecuted by Deputy Chief Jeffrey Clark, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Deborah Goldklang, of the U.S. Attorney's Office Special Prosecutions Division. : -end- : Byrne - John T. Coyle, Esq. and Elise DiNardo, Esq. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4478 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2004 at 07:15:04 Subject: Jedsey Journal comes out this week After a long delay we finally get to read the super Jedsey Journal again this week.We will find out what the "Best Of the Best"are doing around this great country of our. Great job ,Jed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom NoBrainer posted Message 4479 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2004 at 07:48:51 Subject: Re: Jedsey Journal comes out this week : And so does this idiot. we willfind out that he isin fact NurseVal, NurseBetsy, NurseMidge, Dr X-Ray and a host of others. Hell he might even be me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 4480 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2004 at 15:30:55 Subject: DUBLIN AND REFORM DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE WIN DUBLIN AND REFORM DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE WIN Urban Times News July 16, 2004 - July 22, 2004 by Arnold W. Stovell In a tightly contested race for the Hudson County Freeholder seat vacated by former freeholder William Braker, Jersey City native and Cunningham protege, Jeff Dublin was elected 55-45 early Wednesday evening. The 35 year old, Department of Works supervisor defeated Hudson County nominee Bobbie Morgan, a former aide to Braker and crisis intervention teacher at Public School #12 in Jersey City. The 110 Democratic committee members living in the third (3rd) freeholder district were the only representatives allowed to vote, the meeting for that vote was held at P.S. #34 on the corner of Bergen And Wade Avenues. A sizeable crowd waited in the out­side parking lot as the vote was taken. Some tempers flared as last minute committee members were temporarily prevented form entering after the official start of the meeting, but once allowed in focus was on the vote. Virginia Miller, who came out despite the cast upon her fractured ankle, describes the mood inside P.S. #34. "The committee members were very hyped up. People (Reform Democrats) were very excited about the vote because this is another chance for us to carry out the dream of Glenn Cunningham for a united Jersey City and county," she said. William Braker, a former deputy police director resigned after admitting that he had accepted bribes in return for supporting Hudson County and Jersey City Police contracts. Gaining that seat, Hudson Reform officials recapture some of the influence lost when Hudson County Democrats snubbed Sandra Cunningham as the widow of the state Senate seat, and installed Bayonne Mayor Joe Doria, a Hudson County loyalist Cunningham had regularly over­shadowed in bids for state Senate. Traditionally the party and state legislatures offer the widow of the Senator the oppor­tunity to serve out their spouse's term. Dublin is a favored son among the Reform Democratic organiza­tion. Not only did the beloved, deceased Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham choose him, but the community chose him. He was the unanimous choice as a nomi­nee among all ward leaders. He has been a tireless activist in the community, coming from a legacy of civic involvement and achieve­ment. He is a father and a source of inspiration for the youth with whom he connects so well. Reform Democrat Chairwoman Willie Flood speaks fondly when describing Dublin, "I am proud to be associated with this young man. I have watched him come up from ground zero. He is always working. He is always at the meetings. He works well with the young people and gets people out of their houses. He is the kind of young man we need to step up." While this victory will allow Dublin to fill the seat for the remainder of this term, he must still emerge victorious from a spe­cial election in November. In the excitement of the moment we asked Freeholder Dublin for his feelings after this victory. Dublin was humble and thankful, but just as resolute in the things he wants to see done by the coun­ty for the third (3rd) District. "First I want to thank God for without Him nothing is possible. I want to thank my father and the great Glen D. Cunningham. He is in the hearts of every Jersey City resident. I want to thank the first lady, Sandra Cunningham, the ward leaders, the Reform Democratic and the Independent Democratic organizations for all their help and supporting and showing confidence in me. I just want to say I intend to be a repre­sentative of the people and for the people. I intend to be visible in the district and active in the com­munity. I want to see us build more affordable housing in the 3rd District. I know on the county level we have an affordable housing fund. I'd like to see that used to build more affordable housing because our people need it. I would like to see us develop bet­ter uses for our parks and create programs that provide youth development and education as well as recreation. I'd like to see us do some things for our seniors. They are the backbone of our communities and we need to have programs that address their needs. They said we were fin­ished (when we lost Glenn Cunningham) but we're not. This is just the beginning and there will be no stopping us now." ***************** End Of Article ****************** No comment .Less said is more! posted Message 4481 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2004 at 15:39:56 Subject: Re: Smith an evil, rotten ,and childish man! : : I'm a taxpayer who would like to see Manzo or Healy Mayor. please NO Harvey Smith. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4482 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2004 at 16:29:58 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of June 19, 2004 Tony Soares, Hoboken Councilman-At-Large, is Pat's guest on tonite's show. Pat O'Melia endorses Lou Manzo for Mayor. To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Come to our side. The Anti Smith side. posted Message 4483 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2004 at 19:18:37 Subject: Re: Smith an evil, rotten ,and childish man! : : : I'm a taxpayer who would like to see Manzo or Healy Mayor. please NO Harvey Smith. A.B.S. aren't brakes It's the new ward f slogan A-ANYONE B-BUT S-Smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 4484 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2004 at 20:23:51 Subject: I have been told ... that Dublin is as dumb as they come. A perfect stooge for Cardwell and Jackson. It figures that Willie Flood would speak fondly of him. Stupid is as stupid does. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4485 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 20, 2004 at 20:51:38 Subject: Heights Manzo For Mayor Hq. Manzo For Mayor has a Heights Hq. on 660 Hutton Street (one block from the Elks Club, two blocks from Central Avenue). ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 4486 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2004 at 08:16:36 Subject: Tom Gaynor looks very sad today on the beach He doesnt like what is happening to his Jersey City with all the shootings & Crime,,that is going on up there.Also the dirty streets and Pot Holes are a disgrace,he says.lets change things and make Tom happy again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4487 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2004 at 09:35:48 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor looks very sad today on the beach : He lost the little bucket he uses to making his sand castles. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tooloose posted Message 4488 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2004 at 09:58:32 Subject: Janiszewski lost control of his bladder and his bowels Is this why Menendez picked Degise to replace Bobby j? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tooloose posted Message 4489 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2004 at 10:03:09 Subject: Bad boy Sergio Lamboy The Story is burning up the streets that Sergio Lamboy is calling his ciyt employees into the director's office. Once he has them pinned in the chair they get asked who they is supporting for the mayor race. If Sergio don't like the answer the employee gets told that they is going be sorry. Sergio needs to get wrote up for improper use of taxpayer time and furniture. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WHO CARES!?!?! posted Message 4490 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2004 at 14:00:25 Subject: Who really gives a sh-t about that j-erk? Does anyone who reads this board really give a sh-t about that low life Tom Gaynor? I would like to see his name one of those "disallowed" curse words which get kicked back at the author. Tom Gayhnor was and is a total as-hole and should be buried in the deepest hole that cxan be dug in his little corner of paradise. : He doesnt like what is happening to his Jersey City with all the shootings & Crime,,that is going on up there.Also the dirty streets and Pot Holes are a disgrace,he says.lets change things and make Tom happy again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 4491 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2004 at 15:26:42 Subject: I'm confused. Hey Anthony .. are you in the Manzo camp now ? I know he seems to have some support ftom the Cunningham crowd (who you seem to love these days) ... but isn't Manzo a McCann puppet ? And McCann hates your buddy Schundler. What's the story ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4492 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 21, 2004 at 15:44:16 Subject: If it's posted as from GET NJ, If it's posted as from GET NJ, it's a news item -- a relaying of information. If it's posted from UBERHIPPY, then it's an opinion or an analysis piece. The Board is open to all candidates' activities. If you want something posted, either post it yourself or send it to me. If you want an event covered at the Board, send me an announcement. : Hey Anthony .. are you in the Manzo camp now ? I know he seems to have some support ftom the Cunningham crowd (who you seem to love these days) ... but isn't Manzo a McCann puppet ? And McCann hates your buddy Schundler. : What's the story ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hightower posted Message 4493 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 00:09:30 Subject: Pleasant Dreams Wonder if Tony Soares is sleeping well now that the Paul Byrne tapes are leaking out? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4494 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 07:53:46 Subject: The cure for Jersey City Crime situation Clean Streets, No political Corruption,walking Police,Qualified Directors would be a good start.Vote for the most qualified Mayor in November.Try it you may like it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ix-Nay posted Message 4495 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 09:02:59 Subject: Re: The cure for Jersey City situation : Me staying in Avon-by-Sea and building sandcastles with all my otherselves. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4496 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 13:49:09 Subject: Smith Announces Run for Mayor Today at a noontime rally, in front of a crowd of four hundred, L. Harvey Smith announced that he is running for Mayor in the special election this November. Every letter of the alphabet of the peoples that spells out Jersey City was strongly represented. The Downtown artists community was highly visible, along with the Middle Eastern, African-American and all other residents. Quite a few disciplined political infantry, obvious veterans of Jersey City campaigns, also were there. Acting Mayor Smith was warmly welcomed by those in attendance. After the speech, L. Harvey Smith walked among the crowd shaking hands and having his picture taken with many of his supporters. GET NJ will post the text of L. Harvey's Smith's speech shortly. Video of the speech will follow within the next several hours. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nov Rain posted Message 4497 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 13:50:50 Subject: Healy being used by HCDO Healy will soon find out Buddy and all the other cronies will leave him flat by October to be with L Harvey Smith. I thought Jerry was smarter than that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4498 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 14:12:11 Subject: L. Harvey Smith's Speech Dear Friends and Neighbors: For nearly twelve years it has been my great privilege to serve as your elected representative in City government. Each day, I thank God for your confidence and support, especially the support you have shown these past several difficult weeks. I love the people of Jersey City with all my heart. Since beginning my career as an elected official, I have worked hard and long to make life better for everyone here. That's my job, that's my passion, that's my uppermost priority. When I assumed the responsibilities of the Mayor of our great City, I also began working to unite all of our people and make us whole again. I know how much we can accomplish as one community with one cause. We all want the same things from our government and that is to improve the quality of life for everyone in every neighborhood without wasting one single tax dollar. I am reaching out to all of you to work with me to heal any wounds andmend any broken fences that exist. That would mean the world to me. I've invited you to join me here today as I declare my candidacy for Mayor of Jersey City. This is not a step I have taken lightly. I decided to enter into this special election only after prayerful consideration and consulting with my family and friends. The decisions we make, the policies we adopt in the next several months will affect all of our lives tomorrow and our children's lives for years to come. I believe government should work for the good of the people, and that the people should not have to work to keep politicians and their patrons happy. That's why I have and will continue to go to the mat to stabilize property taxes and make our neighborhoods safer, our streets cleaner and opportunities more abundant for everyone. As your Mayor, I will redouble my efforts work with everyone all of our State, federal and local government leaders to make certain that you get those things you need and want. That's the way I did it when I initiated the First-Time Homeowners Program that provides up to $50,000 for families to purchase their first house. That's the way I did it when we got $1.5 million to put 20 new police officers on our streets. That's the way I did it to get the MLK HUB up and running, Lafayette Village constructed, P.S. 17 built and P.S. #3 under way. That's the way I did it when we brought Goldman­ Sachs, Morgan-Chase, the Doubleday, Hyatt Regency and Marriott Hotels and Macy's and Target here. That's the way we will do things when I am Mayor, because this is not the old Jersey City. is is a new, world-class Jersey City and I will ake certain it has a government to match. A government that is inclusive of ALL people. A government that is guided by principle and conducted with integrity. A government we can all be proud of. I cannot do that without your support -- and your vote on November 2nd. There are four generations of Smiths living here in Jersey City: my mother, my wife and I, our children and our grandchildren. You and my family share the same values and dreams. Let's work together to make them happen. My thanks to all of you for coming today. I look forward to meeting as many people as I can in the months ahead. God bless you all, God bless Jersey City and these great United States of America. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sylvester posted Message 4499 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 17:05:14 Subject: Re: Healy being used by HCDO : Healy will soon find out Buddy and all the other cronies will leave him flat by October to be with L Harvey Smith. I thought Jerry was smarter than that. Healy will go the distance but will still come up short. Last match Bobby J sold the Judge out. What can Healy expect this time when Menendez starts beathing down Degise's neck? Degise and Gaughan and the rest of the Newark Ave riffraff will leave Healy flat to fight alone. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SIgn of the Times. posted Message 4500 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 17:06:59 Subject: FEAR THIS! Kerry - Mendendez - Smith Kerry - Payne - Smith Kerry - Rothman - Smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** Zeek the Greek posted Message 4501 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 17:43:36 Subject: Deja vu all over again Let me see, the Jersey City contest for mayor boils down to an African-American backed by Menendez and some guy from the Heights backed by Jim Kennelly. Seems like I heard this already. : Kerry - Mendendez - Smith : Kerry - Payne - Smith : Kerry - Rothman - Smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** Clean ur glasses posted Message 4502 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 18:03:08 Subject: Re: Smith Announces Run for Mayor That was the smallest 400 ever seen. I will not comment on the rest - aint worth it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gag Me posted Message 4503 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 18:06:50 Subject: Re: L. Harvey Smith's Speech : Dear Friends and Neighbors: I'm gonna be sick ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4504 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 18:49:10 Subject: Online Video: Smith Runs For Mayor To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4505 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 21:02:05 Subject: Picture of Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith with Councilwoman Mary Donnelly, Sheriff Joseph Cassidy, and Freeholder Ray Velazquez at today's City Hall rally. Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith with Councilwoman Mary Donnelly, Sheriff Joseph Cassidy, and Freeholder Ray Velazquez at today's City Hall rally. ***************** End Of Article ****************** toolbox posted Message 4506 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 22, 2004 at 23:46:22 Subject: Re: Bad boy Sergio Lamboy I'm an employee of the department of health and human service. Sergio Lamboy never threating or harass any one because of Their political difference. he always respected his staff and treat them with dignity. Stop this rumor of sergio. HE IS AN HONEST AND RESPECTABLE HUMAN BEING. I know political is vicious but don't lie about someone character. I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 4507 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2004 at 06:22:03 Subject: How many of you are going to Boston To Party? While you are there ,we will still have Crime,Dirty Streets And Political corruption to look forward too.Enjoy the convention, you earned it.Joke. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val ain't a Gal posted Message 4508 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2004 at 07:55:23 Subject: Re: How many of you are going to Boston To Party? : I am. Im gonna drink the Koolaid with Tom, Betsy, Midge and Dr XRay. Yum. Then we are allgoing back to sunny Avon_by_Sea and build sandcastles. ***************** End Of Article ****************** harvey review posted Message 4509 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2004 at 20:27:01 Subject: harvey on the polls Harvey Smith does not have a prayer against louie manzo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jimmy the Greek posted Message 4510 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 23, 2004 at 21:03:21 Subject: 3 Horse Race Harvey 4th. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseMidse posted Message 4511 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2004 at 08:51:58 Subject: Why is Tom Gaynor going to Boston To Party? I guess he just loves to party.Will Jersey City be crime free while he is away having a good Time?Hurry back tom,Jersey City is a combat zone.Next they will be giving out purple hearts to the taxpayers of this once great City.The "Best Of The Best" are still around anyway. ***************** End Of Article ****************** P R O Z A C=TOM GAYNOR posted Message 4512 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2004 at 09:19:03 Subject: A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE : I guess he just loves to party.Will Jersey City be crime free while he is away having a good Time?Hurry back tom,Jersey City is a combat zone.Next they will be giving out purple hearts to the taxpayers of this once great City.The "Best Of The Best" are still around anyway. ***************** End Of Article ****************** From the West Coast posted Message 4513 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2004 at 11:44:18 Subject: Communication Wizard Kennelly puts his foot in his mouth and Degise has to pull it out! Jersey Journal 2/27/04 $70G contract awarded despite attempt to withdraw it By John Martins, Journal staff writer The Board of Freeholders yesterday approved a $70,000 consulting contract for a grants consulting firm, despite a request from County Administrator Abraham Antun to remove the item from the board's agenda. Presented Tuesday at the freeholders' pre-meeting caucus, the contract would renew for another year the services provided by the Funding Group, which is based in Upper Montclair and is headed by partners Barbara Lawton and Joseph Lauro. Antun asked the freeholders yesterday to remove the item from the agenda for further administrative review, but a move put forward to pull it was defeated. Chairman Sal Vega of West New York said he was upset with a comment made by a county spokesman in yesterday's edition of The Jersey Journal that the administration itself was pulling the item. The freeholders board is the only entity that can remove an item from its own agenda, Vega explained, adding that the spokesman's comment was disrespectful to the boundaries between the legislative and executive branches of government. Still in opposition to awarding the contract, Freeholder Bill O'Dea of Jersey City moved to carry it over until the board's next meeting. That motion also was defeated. The contract was finally approved by a vote of 4-3-2, with O'Dea and Freeholders Albert Cifelli of Harrison and Bill Braker of Jersey City voting no. Freeholders Barry Dugan of Bayonne and Tilo Rivas of Union City abstained. Initially sponsored by Vega and Freeholder Maurice Fitzgibbons of Hoboken, the contract was approved by Vega, Fitzgibbons and Freeholders Thomas Liggio of North Bergen and Ray Velazquez of Jersey City. Velazquez said he supported the contract because the Funding Group was able to bring in more than $2 million in grants through the New Jersey Historic Preservation Trust, the state's Green Acres program and the U.S. Tennis Association for tennis clinics at Washington Park. The group was also able to bring the Garden State Games to Hudson County, Velazquez added. O'Dea said the group was being retained to write winning grant money applications, not bring in supplemental recreational programs. He added that the historic preservation grant the Funding Group is taking credit for was actually submitted in 2002. Cifelli, however, said during the meeting that he didn't want his vote to be construed as either a gesture of dislike for the Funding Group's partners or indication of a lack of confidence in the quality of their work. His reasoning, he said, was that he wanted the contract to follow a more performance-based standard of billing. "I do not feel the way the contract was presented to us is the appropriate way governmental contracts should be written," Cifelli said. Approval of the contract, however, does not mean the firm will be retained by the county administration. County Executive Tom DeGise would still need to sign off on the contract. Reached yesterday evening, DeGise said he would discuss the issue further with Board Chairman Vega so both the executive and legislative branches of government can come to an amicable consensus on the issue. He also came to the defense of his spokesman, saying the lapse in protocol was his fault. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseSmidse posted Message 4514 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2004 at 13:20:56 Subject: Re: Why is Tom Gaynor going to Boston To Party? : I guess he has to find NurseMidge.Will Jersey City be Tom Gaynor free while he is away having a good Time at the publics expense in Boston?Have we everbeen that lucky? Next they will be giving out purple hearts to thos who survive the mindless onslaught of this idiot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inquiring Mind posted Message 4515 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2004 at 16:36:36 Subject: Could it be ??? Glazer keeping an eye on things from the Left Coast ? I betya you and that knucklehead Carlton McGee are having a great time with your venture capital scheme ... beauty salons !!! What a freaking joke !! I'm guessing you two are venturing to keep your capital away from the alimony lawyers and courts. Do I hear the sheriffs on your trail ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bob Douglas posted Message 4516 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2004 at 19:31:58 Subject: Re: DO NOT POST using an actual name that is NOT YOUR OWN! paxil The University of California Statistics Department; where mean is normal, and deviation standard. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Musgrave posted Message 4517 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2004 at 19:57:09 Subject: Re: Why Are Some Hudson County Elected Officials Demanding My Name Be Removed From The Urban Times News Masthead? paxil doom == sealed in an unpleasant fate doom == rockin' oldschool FPS. doom == where ol' pete is heading fast doom = city in eastern france uh oh... bazik just reassigned doom to something new. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doubt that it's Glazer....butt boy left this all behind.... posted Message 4518 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2004 at 20:15:23 Subject: Re: Could it be ??? : Glazer keeping an eye on things from the Left Coast ? : I betya you and that knucklehead Carlton McGee are having a great time with your venture capital scheme ... beauty salons !!! : What a freaking joke !! I'm guessing you two are venturing to keep your capital away from the alimony lawyers and courts. : Do I hear the sheriffs on your trail ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth Will Prevail posted Message 4519 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2004 at 21:19:45 Subject: God Bless Steve Glazer God Bless Steve Glazer ................. The truth will soon prevail : : Glazer keeping an eye on things from the Left Coast ? : : I betya you and that knucklehead Carlton McGee are having a great time with your venture capital scheme ... beauty salons !!! : : What a freaking joke !! I'm guessing you two are venturing to keep your capital away from the alimony lawyers and courts. : : Do I hear the sheriffs on your trail ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Right coast posted Message 4520 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 24, 2004 at 21:42:27 Subject: Re: God Save Steve Glazer Let's not get carried away. Steve Scam Glazer is a lost cause. Once a loser always a loser. : : : What a freaking joke !! I'm guessing you two are venturing to keep your capital away from the alimony lawyers and courts. : : : Do I hear the sheriffs on your trail ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Judgement Day or is it JUDGEMENTS? posted Message 4521 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 25, 2004 at 18:03:45 Subject: Revolutionary Internet Hair Styling Device!!! Revolutionary Internet Hair Styling Device!!! Investors Wanted – $$$$Get In On The Ground Floor$$$$ For More Information, write to GETNJ – Dept. MG, P.O. Box 3362, Jersey City, NJ 07303 Very clever, it's funny and sad at the same time. The sad part: this bogus investor's company is under investagation in the United Kingdom. Agents have beed in contact with the SEC. The funny part: McGee will fall with Glazer and will both be in Jail......PRICELESS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Left Coast posted Message 4522 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 25, 2004 at 18:05:57 Subject: Look at ad above : : Glazer keeping an eye on things from the Left Coast ? : : I betya you and that knucklehead Carlton McGee are having a great time with your venture capital scheme ... beauty salons !!! : : What a freaking joke !! I'm guessing you two are venturing to keep your capital away from the alimony lawyers and courts. : : Do I hear the sheriffs on your trail ? Revolutionary Internet Hair Styling Device!!! Investors Wanted – $$$$Get In On The Ground Floor$$$$ For More Information, write to GETNJ – Dept. MG, P.O. Box 3362, Jersey City, NJ 07303 Very clever, it's funny and sad at the same time. The sad part: this bogus investor's company is under investagation in the United Kingdom. Agents have beed in contact with the SEC. The funny part: McGee will fall with Glazer and will both be in Jail......PRICELESS ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 4523 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 06:56:16 Subject: To throw out First ball in Boston Jedsey was suppose to throw out the first ball in Boston Last night.But was pushed aside by John Kerry at the last Minute.Tom Gaynor will not stand for this.Jedsey DiMatteo desreves better. ***************** End Of Article ****************** all together now posted Message 4524 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 07:43:12 Subject: Where does an 800 pound gorilla sit? When is Ron Buonocore going to announce that he's running for mayor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anywhere he wants posted Message 4525 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 09:55:34 Subject: Re: Where does an 800 pound gorilla sit? Hopefully, on Gaynor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL...........................SPLAT! posted Message 4526 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 10:01:04 Subject: Re: Where does an 800 pound gorilla sit? : Hopefully, on Gaynor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4527 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 10:05:01 Subject: Re: To throw out First ball in Boston : Jedsey was suppose to throw out the first ball in Boston Last night.But was pushed aside by John Kerry at the last Minute.Tom Gaynor has got his sand bucket and will thrown it at Kerry. ***************** End Of Article ****************** sounds fishy to me posted Message 4528 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 13:06:28 Subject: Re: Could it be ??? Carlton McGee hooks up with Steven Glazer in a company called corphq. They sell stock only overseas so they aren't bounded by USA law. Also has to do with the parent company Safeguard Technology. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fed up with Fools posted Message 4529 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 16:15:48 Subject: Re: Where does an 800 pound gorilla sit? How about on the crapper since he's so full of sh-t. : When is Ron Buonocore going to announce that he's running for mayor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4530 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 17:08:16 Subject: Jersey Journal: Menendez crosses party lines to vote to tighten U.S. embargo against Cuba CUBA SWITCH Menendez crosses party lines to vote to tighten U.S. embargo against Cuba Monday, July 26, 2004 By Bonnie Friedman Journal staff writer UNION CITY - Like many Cuban-Americans in Hudson County, Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, has conflicting emotions over President Bush's attempts to strengthen the embargo against Fidel Castro's regime. Earlier this month, Menendez - a staunch Castro opponent - crossed party lines to vote in support of the administration's attempt to tighten restrictions on remittances to Cuba. At the same time, however, Menendez said Bush isn't doing enough to bring about the end of Cuba's one-party government. . . . To read the complete piece, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4531 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 17:11:18 Subject: El Nuevo Hudson Se resquebraja unidad de la Organizacíon Demócrata del Condado de Hudson Thursday, July 22, 2004 Por José Enrique Abelar Es más fácil pelear con un enemigo que conformar a los amigos, parece ser el sentimiento íntimo de algunos políticos del condado de Hudson, que no quieren expresarlo a plena voz, pero que ronronean en bajo volumen ante lo que ahora parece inevitable: el resquebrajamiento del HCDO. Con la muerte del ex-alcalde Glenn Cunningham, el principal adversario político que tenía el HCDO, muchos pensaron que los problemas se terminaban y se afianzaba el poder de dicha organización política. . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Piatkowski For Congress posted Message 4532 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 17:18:17 Subject: FEATURED DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION SPEAKER STILL HOARDING MONEY FROM INDICTED FUNDRAISERS: PIATKOWSKI DEMANDS MENENDEZ RETURN TAINTED CONTRIBUTIONS Piatkowski for Congress www.HudsonGOP.com For immediate release Contact: Anthony Olzewski (201) 921-9954 Fax: (201) 798 – 2085 FEATURED DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION SPEAKER STILL HOARDING MONEY FROM INDICTED FUNDRAISERS: PIATKOWSKI DEMANDS MENENDEZ RETURN TAINTED CONTRIBUTIONS Perth Amboy – Tonight, New Jersey’s own, Congressman Bob Menendez is set to speak in front of a national audience at the Democratic National Convention in Boston, Massachusetts. “While a representative from New Jersey on a national stage should make the residents of the Garden State proud, our Democratic Congressman from District 13 continues to disgrace our state and the residents of Hudson County by hoarding campaign contributions from several indicted Democratic fundraisers,” said Republican District 13 candidate Richard Piatkowski, who is challenging Menendez this November. “While Congressman Menendez will no doubt tow the party line and speak to why America should vote for Democrats this November, Menendez continues to hold onto over $24,000 in campaign contributions from indicted New Jersey Democratic fundraisers.” “Congressman Menendez should know better than to embarrass our state and keep these massive amounts of contributions from indicted fundraisers. These Democratic money-men are charged with everything from insider trading, to illegal kick-back schemes, to hiring prostitutes to frame federal witnesses,” continued Piatkowski. “New Jersey is a proud state made up of honest, hard-working men and women who are subject to a daily barrage of newspaper articles detailing how their elected officials are falling one by one to these constant political scandals. Recently, Democratic fundraisers such as Charles Kushner, Joe Barry, Rene Abreu and Ron Manzo have been brought up on charges by the US Department of Justice on an array of charges stemming from their connections with Democrats throughout the state.” “ Now, Bob Menendez has the nerve to speak to America, on national TV and radio, and represent New Jersey, while keeping his dirty campaign cash from these unscrupulous individuals.” Recently, New Jersey Senator Jon Corzine set an ethical example to his fellow Democrats throughout the state by returning all of his campaign contributions received from Charles Kushner. “ While Corzine shows the country that New Jersey Democrats can act ethically, Bob Menendez continues to perpetuate the stereotype that all politicians in New Jersey are corrupt.” Menendez fundraising totals from these are as follows: Charles Kushner: $9,000 to Menendez for Congress $10,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Ron Manzo: $4,500 to Menendez for Congress Joe Barry: $670 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Rene Abreu: $1,000 to Menendez for Congress “I call on you Mr. Menenedez, to stop embarrassing this state and return this tainted money immediately and issue and apology to the residents in New Jersey. Your actions go a long way in making New Jersey politics the butt of jokes throughout the country!” # # # # # ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jean F. Lewis posted Message 4533 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 18:11:07 Subject: Re: Property Tax Reimbursement Checks that the Division of Taxation has begun mailing the Property Tax Reimbursement (PTR), checks to eligible applicants. The Division has until September 1 to issue reimbursement checks for applicants who filed between May 1 and June 1, 2004. Reimbursements for applications received after June 1, but before the extended filing deadline of August 2, 2004, will be issued as quickly as possible. : Chiappone stated, “The Division of Taxation has informed me that this year's checks represent the amount of the reimbursement based on the 2003 application. In the case of eligible applicants who filed for the first time last year but did not receive a check, the 2003 reimbursement represents the difference between the amount of the 2003 property taxes paid and the amount of the 2001 (base year) taxes. If anyone has any questions about the status of their PTR checks please feel free to call my office at 201-437-2442. In addition, with the extension to August 2 of the filing deadline for Property Tax Reimbursement, my office will be happy to help those who require assistance in filling out their forms as well as check for eligibility.” : The Division is mailing more than 80,000 checks, which average $416. In addition, we are mailing 17,000 notices to applicants who did not provide all the necessary information and/or documentation required to issue a reimbursement. : Chiappone notes that residents may also send an inquiry to the Division of Taxation e-mail address: njpropertytaxrelief@tax.state.nj.us. : The Property Tax Reimbursement Hotline is: 1-800-882-6597 (8:30 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Mon-Fri) TTY Equipment Users: 1-800-286-6613 or 609-984-7300 Taxation e-mail address: taxation@tax.state.nj.us : : Chiappone also indicated that information about the mailing of the 2003 homestead rebate checks will be forthcoming within the next two weeks. Please do not hesitate to contact our office at 201-437-2442 or stop by at 595 Broadway, if there is anything other information needed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jean F. Lewis posted Message 4533 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 18:11:07 Subject: Re: Property Tax Reimbursement Checks that the Division of Taxation has begun mailing the Property Tax Reimbursement (PTR), checks to eligible applicants. The Division has until September 1 to issue reimbursement checks for applicants who filed between May 1 and June 1, 2004. Reimbursements for applications received after June 1, but before the extended filing deadline of August 2, 2004, will be issued as quickly as possible. : Chiappone stated, “The Division of Taxation has informed me that this year's checks represent the amount of the reimbursement based on the 2003 application. In the case of eligible applicants who filed for the first time last year but did not receive a check, the 2003 reimbursement represents the difference between the amount of the 2003 property taxes paid and the amount of the 2001 (base year) taxes. If anyone has any questions about the status of their PTR checks please feel free to call my office at 201-437-2442. In addition, with the extension to August 2 of the filing deadline for Property Tax Reimbursement, my office will be happy to help those who require assistance in filling out their forms as well as check for eligibility.” : The Division is mailing more than 80,000 checks, which average $416. In addition, we are mailing 17,000 notices to applicants who did not provide all the necessary information and/or documentation required to issue a reimbursement. : Chiappone notes that residents may also send an inquiry to the Division of Taxation e-mail address: njpropertytaxrelief@tax.state.nj.us. : The Property Tax Reimbursement Hotline is: 1-800-882-6597 (8:30 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Mon-Fri) TTY Equipment Users: 1-800-286-6613 or 609-984-7300 Taxation e-mail address: taxation@tax.state.nj.us : : Chiappone also indicated that information about the mailing of the 2003 homestead rebate checks will be forthcoming within the next two weeks. Please do not hesitate to contact our office at 201-437-2442 or stop by at 595 Broadway, if there is anything other information needed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4534 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 21:20:56 Subject: Can you say ... 85% to 15% ? That will be the margin in November of the Menendez victory. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4535 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 21:55:58 Subject: Great speech by ... Congressman Bob Menendez tonite at the DNC. Jersey City has a Congressman it can be proud of. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He's done us proud ! posted Message 4536 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 21:57:12 Subject: Re: Great speech by ...Bob Menendez : Congressman Bob Menendez tonite at the DNC. Jersey City has a Congressman it can be proud of. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Starting to Crack posted Message 4537 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 21:59:10 Subject: Menendez Speech STUNK Boss Menendez prime time speech - STUNK -- Guess all the pressure is staarting to make him crack. GOD BLESS THE US ATTORNEY !!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Starting to Crack posted Message 4538 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 21:59:15 Subject: Menendez Speech STUNK Boss Menendez prime time speech - STUNK -- Guess all the pressure is staarting to make him crack. GOD BLESS THE US ATTORNEY !!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Keep Drinking t he Menendez Koolaide posted Message 4539 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 22:02:48 Subject: No One Even...... Clapped : Congressman Bob Menendez tonite at the DNC. Jersey City has a Congressman it can be proud of. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ask Billy Musto posted Message 4540 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 22:05:40 Subject: Menendez Proud ??? : : Congressman Bob Menendez tonite at the DNC. Jersey City has a Congressman it can be proud of. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez = 1 st Class Creep posted Message 4541 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 26, 2004 at 22:30:59 Subject: I Agree - Menendez = Real Phoney : Boss Menendez prime time speech - STUNK -- Guess all the pressure is staarting to make him crack. : GOD BLESS THE US ATTORNEY !!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4542 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 05:35:25 Subject: Video of Congressman Menendez's speech will be posted here soon. I have the video of Congressman Menendez's speech and will post it at GET NJ as soon as possible. If I had a schedule of the event, the video would be Online now. Without a schedule, I had to record a 3 hour block. It will take some time to extract Robert Menendez's segment from those hours of video. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4543 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 05:37:44 Subject: At least he didn't give the Dean Scream! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Worth the wait posted Message 4544 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 06:37:56 Subject: Re: Video of Congressman Menendez's speech will be posted here soon. No problemo. I will be worth the wait to see the short pudgy guy with glasses warm-up before the fat lady sings. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Such a lady posted Message 4545 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 06:49:03 Subject: Shove it! Let me see now.... You use the word unAmerican in a statement you have just made. A reporter asks what do you mean. You tell him to "Shove it" & that you didn't say that. Such a lady that Ter-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-sea is. You would think with all her money, she would take a nickel & invest in a personality. She obviously never read Miss Manners or How To Win Friends & Influence People. John = Flip Flopping Liar Ter-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-sea = Crass outspoken, starts with a B, ends with an H & has ITC in the middle Equals Bye-Bye America. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DR-X-Ray posted Message 4546 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 07:06:20 Subject: Was that Tom Gaynor holding up the NJ sign at the Convention? That guy sure gets around.He better get back to jersey City real quick.Crime is breaking out all over the City.The streets are still filtyand we still have political Corruption. In other words ,nothing has changed since he left. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4547 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 07:39:13 Subject: How you can -- and can't -- comment on the National Election here. Observations posted here must DIRECTLY relate to Hudson County Politics! Permissable posts include the activities of Hudson County people at a convention or other events outside of lovely HC (and here I thought the world ended just west of Newark, North of Fort Lee, South of Bayonne, and beyond the East River), local visits by the national campaign, local events focused on the national campaign, locations of Hudson County campaign offices for the presidential candidates, signs/bumper stickers available or wanted, and statements by Hudson County figures on the Big Show. Also, please DO post here if you would like to organize/announce meetups -- no matter which horse you are betting on in the big November race. General remarks about the presidential candidates and/or national issues ARE NOT ALLOWED! There's a universe of Boards out there that want to hear your every little thought on Kerry and Bush. This Board raison d'etre (as opposed to raison bran) is Hudson County politics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4548 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 07:41:22 Subject: How you can -- and can't -- comment on the National Election here. Observations posted here must DIRECTLY relate to Hudson County Politics! Permissable posts include the activities of Hudson County people at a convention or other events outside of lovely HC (and here I thought the world ended just west of Newark, North of Fort Lee, South of Bayonne, and beyond the East River), local visits by the national campaign, local events focused on the national campaign, locations of Hudson County campaign offices for the presidential candidates, signs/bumper stickers available or wanted, and statements by Hudson County figures on the Big Show. Also, please DO post here if you would like to organize/announce meetups -- no matter which horse you are betting on in the big November race. General remarks about the presidential candidates and/or national issues ARE NOT ALLOWED! There's a universe of Sites out there that want to hear your every little thought on Kerry and Bush. This Board's raison d'etre (as opposed to raison bran) is Hudson County politics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4549 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 08:33:47 Subject: Jersey Journal: Hudson's Menendez raps Bush, goes bilingual in courting Latino voters LIFE OF THE PARTY Hudson's Menendez raps Bush, goes bilingual in courting Latino voters Tuesday, July 27, 2004 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer BOSTON - In front of what was likely the largest audience he's ever faced, U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez of Hoboken stepped into the national spotlight last night at the Democratic National Convention, delivering a prime-time speech focused almost entirely on foreign affairs, criticizing the Bush Administration for the war in Iraq and promising that Sen. John Kerry would strengthen global alliances. Menendez, who gave part of his roughly 10-minute speech in Spanish, spoke in impassioned tones, at times raising his voice and shaking his fist, and promoting Kerry as the presidential candidate who would improve America's standing in the world. . . . For the complete article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4550 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 08:41:44 Subject: Bush Signs and bumper stickers and buttons If you are in Hudson County and would like a Bush for President sign, bumper sticker, or button, please e-mail me: info@uberhippy.com Include your name, address, and phone number. Availability is after Labor Day. Excelsior! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ix-Nay posted Message 4551 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 09:08:53 Subject: Re: Was that Tom Gaynor holding up the NJ sign at the Convention? : No. It was more like the sign holding him up. The doddering old fool. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm confused posted Message 4552 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 09:15:59 Subject: Re: Jersey Journal: Hudson's Menendez raps Bush, goes bilingual in courting Latino voters First of all Mr. Menendez, this is AMERICA - the UNITED STATES! The prevailing language is ENGLISH! Second of all Mr. Menendez, didn't you have to take Spanish lessons because you couldn't speak it? What a phoney baloney. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Peewee Herman posted Message 4553 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 10:08:40 Subject: The Sign The sign Gaynor was holding said : KICK ME !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Peewee Herman posted Message 4553 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 10:08:40 Subject: The Sign The sign Gaynor was holding said : KICK ME !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glazer is a low life drunk, dirt bag and a LOSER God can't save him nor does God want to, posted Message 4554 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 10:44:37 Subject: Re: God Bless Steve Glazer : God Bless Steve Glazer ................. : The truth will soon prevail : : : Glazer keeping an eye on things from the Left Coast ? : : : I betya you and that knucklehead Carlton McGee are having a great time with your venture capital scheme ... beauty salons !!! : : : What a freaking joke !! I'm guessing you two are venturing to keep your capital away from the alimony lawyers and courts. : : : Do I hear the sheriffs on your trail ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm sorry posted Message 4555 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 10:54:59 Subject: I forgot I'll try not to do it again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4556 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 11:09:05 Subject: Online Video: Congressman Menendez Addresses the 2004 Democratic Convention To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. X posted Message 4557 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 13:15:38 Subject: The Mayoral Poll of June 04 A source close to one of the major camps leaked this poll to me : Odea 21% Manzo 20% Healy 14% Smith 10% McCann 4% Carol 2% Other 11% Undecided 18 % Error +/- 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** Head Count posted Message 4558 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 14:32:15 Subject: Re: The Mayoral Poll of June 04 If Manzo is trailing O'Dea...who hasn't even indicated interest in running, and Manzo has his platform as an elected Assemblyman, MANZO is in trouble already. But this is no surprise since he doesn't seem to understand the fundamentals of building a strong organization. Manzo only won his assembly seat through the efforts of Cunningham and his crew. But then he tried to make believe he did it all on his own. Manzo is a lousy speaker, has no passion, has not presented any new ideas, and still trails a guy who hasn't even indicated any interest in running for Mayor. This should be a wake up call to anyone thinking about jumping on his bandwagon. With Healy only 6% behind which could statistically mean only 2%, Manzo is in serious trouble. Healy is a likeable guy with no political debts to repay ... yet. And even if he isn't completely independent of the HCDO, at least he shows some passion when he talks about the role of the Mayor in crafting and delivering a bright future for the residents of JC. If Manzo hopes to have a chance of pulling it off this time he had better come up with a comprehensive platform (not just brownfields BS over and over again). And he has to deliver his views with some passion. : A source close to one of the major camps leaked this poll to me : : Odea 21% : Manzo 20% : Healy 14% : Smith 10% : McCann 4% : Carol 2% : Other 11% : Undecided 18 % : Error +/- 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4559 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 15:12:58 Subject: Ran into a Gaughan Club Foot Soldier Up here in the northern reaches of beautiful Jersey City, I ran into a Gaughan Club foot soldier. He made sure that I got an earful of his take on things. Here's what he had to say: * Menendez never did nothing for Degise. * Degise lost to Cunningham in the Jersey City Mayor's race because of Menendez. Nobody better ever forget that. * Degise won County Executive strictly on his own merits. It had nothing to do with Menendez. As far as that goes, Degise lost the Jersey City vote in the County Executive race only because of Menendez's feud with Cunningham. * Degise don't need Menendez. And, Menendez ain't as big as he makes out to be. There's a guy from South Jersey that's the real big shot. How do you think this guy ever came up with his ideas? ***************** End Of Article ****************** unonow posted Message 4560 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 15:25:36 Subject: Re: Ran into a Gaughan Club Foot Soldier : Up here in the northern reaches of beautiful Jersey City, I ran into a Gaughan Club foot soldier. He made sure that I got an earful of his take on things. Here's what he had to say: : * Menendez never did nothing for Degise. : * Degise lost to Cunningham in the Jersey City Mayor's race because of Menendez. Nobody better ever forget that. : * Degise won County Executive strictly on his own merits. It had nothing to do with Menendez. As far as that goes, Degise lost the Jersey City vote in the County Executive race only because of Menendez's feud with Cunningham. : * Degise don't need Menendez. And, Menendez ain't as big as he makes out to be. There's a guy from South Jersey that's the real big shot. : How do you think this guy ever came up with his ideas? :He must have listened to gaughan's son-in-law who remembered something he overheard during a rare sober moment. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4561 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 15:38:05 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of July 26, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** *Hic* posted Message 4562 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 16:19:48 Subject: Re: Ran into a Gaughan Club Foot Soldier : : Up here in the northern reaches of beautiful Jersey City, I ran into a Gaughan Club foot soldier. He made sure that I got an earful of his take on things. Here's what he had to say: : : * Menendez never did nothing for Degise. : : * Degise lost to Cunningham in the Jersey City Mayor's race because of Menendez. Nobody better ever forget that. : : * Degise won County Executive strictly on his own merits. It had nothing to do with Menendez. As far as that goes, Degise lost the Jersey City vote in the County Executive race only because of Menendez's feud with Cunningham. : : * Degise don't need Menendez. And, Menendez ain't as big as he makes out to be. There's a guy from South Jersey that's the real big shot. : : How do you think this guy ever came up with his ideas? : :He must have listened to gaughan's son-in-law who remembered something he overheard during a rare sober moment. :::From the tone of the post, I thought it was his son-in-law. ***************** End Of Article ****************** wilkesbarre posted Message 4563 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 16:50:02 Subject: Re: Ran into a Gaughan Club Foot Soldier : : : Up here in the northern reaches of beautiful Jersey City, I ran into a Gaughan Club foot soldier. He made sure that I got an earful of his take on things. Here's what he had to say: : : : * Menendez never did nothing for Degise. : : : * Degise lost to Cunningham in the Jersey City Mayor's race because of Menendez. Nobody better ever forget that. : : : * Degise won County Executive strictly on his own merits. It had nothing to do with Menendez. As far as that goes, Degise lost the Jersey City vote in the County Executive race only because of Menendez's feud with Cunningham. : : : * Degise don't need Menendez. And, Menendez ain't as big as he makes out to be. There's a guy from South Jersey that's the real big shot. : : : How do you think this guy ever came up with his ideas? : : :He must have listened to gaughan's son-in-law who remembered something he overheard during a rare sober moment. : :::From the tone of the post, I thought it was his son-in-law. ::: Nah. the grammar is too good for the son in law. words much too big ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. X posted Message 4564 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 17:02:48 Subject: Re: The Mayoral Poll Head Count ? Dear Mr. Head Count, If Odea doesn't run I think Manzo will get his vote. That could boost Manzo to over 40% to Healy 14% and Smith 10%. If that is the case Manzo is going to win easy. Smith is in the biggest trouble. He is now the Mayor and can only muster 10 %. Healy is not much better. When he ran on Manzo's ticket (council at large) he got almost 2,000 votes less than Manzo. That doesn't sound too promising. P.S. I think you should change you're screen name to Head Case. Signed, Mr. X : A source close to one of the major camps leaked this poll to me : : Odea 21% : Manzo 20% : Healy 14% : Smith 10% : McCann 4% : Carol 2% : Other 11% : Undecided 18 % : Error +/- 3% : If Manzo is trailing O'Dea...who hasn't even indicated interest in running, and Manzo has his platform as an elected Assemblyman, MANZO is in trouble already. But this is no surprise since he doesn't seem to understand the fundamentals of building a strong organization. : Manzo only won his assembly seat through the efforts of Cunningham and his crew. But then he tried to make believe he did it all on his own. Manzo is a lousy speaker, has no passion, has not presented any new ideas, and still trails a guy who hasn't even indicated any interest in running for Mayor. This should be a wake up call to anyone thinking about jumping on his bandwagon. : With Healy only 6% behind which could statistically mean only 2%, Manzo is in serious trouble. Healy is a likeable guy with no political debts to repay ... yet. And even if he isn't completely independent of the HCDO, at least he shows some passion when he talks about the role of the Mayor in crafting and delivering a bright future for the residents of JC. : If Manzo hopes to have a chance of pulling it off this time he had better come up with a comprehensive platform (not just brownfields BS over and over again). And he has to deliver his views with some passion. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4565 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 18:22:05 Subject: Transcript of Congressman Menendez's Speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention My fellow Americans: There is a great deal at stake in this election. But perhaps nothing more vital, more crucial, more fundamental to our future than America's providential role in the world. Today America is the only superpower in the world, but we need a president who understands the difference between a war of choice and a war of necessity. We need a president who will guarantee a strong military and an even stronger foreign diplomacy, so we do not have to place America's sons and daughters alone in harm's way, unless it is really in our national security interest to do so. We need a president who will be truthful with the American people at home, as well as with our allies around the globe. America cannot lead if others will not follow. To be strong, to be a leader of the international community, to have friends who will stand by us when we need them, we need a president who will engage the world, not isolate ourselves from it. And we need a president who knows that the process of building alliances is not a sign of weakness, but, in fact, it is a sign of strength, vision, leadership, and purpose. You see, there are times when America needs to act alone. But you get a lot more firepower on your side when you can organize a posse. John Kerry has the ability--and the credibility---to internationalize our efforts in Iraq, and John Kerry will build a real coalition to win the war on terror. And John Kerry has a plan to win the war on terror, to make America safer and more secure, to make our country strong and respected around the world. Under John Kerry's plan, America will identify, disrupt, and eliminate terrorist networks by uniting the world around common interests: sharing good intelligence, drying up bank accounts, breaking up terror cells wherever we find them. John Kerry will appoint a national director of intelligence so that there is one individual with responsibility and accountability for intelligence operations, and so that, instead of investigating failures, we succeed in preventing attacks. John Kerry will reduce the threat of a nuclear attack by investing the resources needed to secure these materials worldwide. Imagine this: Less weapons material has been secured in the two years after September 11th than in the two years before. John Kerry will make protecting America from this threat a national priority. John Kerry will finish the job in Afghanistan--a major and important front in the war on terror that was practically forgotten once we went into Iraq. John Kerry will expand our active duty forces by adding 40,000 troops, because he knows our overworked soldiers are now stretched too thin. And John Kerry knows that when we must go to war, we must go with enough troops and enough planning to win the war, secure the peace, and earn the respect of the world. John Kerry will always remember that America's security begins and ends with the soldier, sailor, airman, and Marine--with every serviceman and woman standing a post, defending our freedom, anywhere in the world. And let me tell you, when it is needed, John Kerry will not wait, he will not waver, he will not hem or haw, he will not hesitate a single moment to use America's military force to capture and destroy terrorist groups and their leaders. To defend America and our friends, and our interests. To protect this nation from danger. And John Kerry will not ignore our own neighborhood: Latin America. The message John Kerry will send to Latin America is different from the one Latin America and Latinos here in the United States have heard from President Bush. Bajo la administracion de John Kerry, los latinos en los Estados Unidos dejaran de sufrir las consecuencias de un aumento de desempleo de 16% y la incidencia de estudiantes que no terminan la educacion secundoria. Adems, reducira el incremento de ninos latinos que viven en la pobreza, de familias latinas que no tienen acceso a seguro medico, y un camino hacia una legalizacion migraturia y el sueno Americano. A medida que los latinos progresen en los Estados Unidos, John Kerry va a continuar desarrollando estrategias que mantengan a America Latina y los Estados Unidos en armonia de vecinos. John Kerry understands, as those of us in the Hispanic community do, the importance of building bridges to these nations in our hemisphere, so our part of the world is safe, stable, and prosperous. He will engage Latin America with respect and with values that unite the Americas behind common goals and against common threats. That's the Kerry plan. And if anyone doubts his ability to accomplish these things, then they don't know the John Kerry I know: the John Kerry who, after leaving Yale, volunteered to fight in the jungles of Vietnam; the John Kerry who showed his strength of character on the battlefield; the John Kerry whose courage earned him a Bronze Star, a Silver Star, and three Purple Hearts, risking his life to save others; the John Kerry whose citation reads: "When Lieutenant Kerry discovered he had a man overboard, he returned upriver to assist." The man in the water was receiving sniper fire from both banks. From an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain, in disregard of his personal safety, he pulled the man aboard-courageous, strong, heroic. That's the president John Kerry will be. He will leave no one behind, and by his example he will lead America into a new era of security and strength and respect here at home and around the world. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4566 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 27, 2004 at 18:29:02 Subject: Re: The Mayoral Poll of June 04 Why didn't get numbers for any of the possible Reform Democrat candidates? : A source close to one of the major camps leaked this poll to me : : Odea 21% : Manzo 20% : Healy 14% : Smith 10% : McCann 4% : Carol 2% : Other 11% : Undecided 18 % : Error +/- 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4567 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2004 at 07:20:26 Subject: Telemundo Video Online: Congressman Menendez Describes John Kerry In this Spanish Language video, Congressman Bob Menendez talks about Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. X posted Message 4568 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2004 at 08:35:57 Subject: Re: The Mayoral Poll of June 04 I was told the undecided vote was for a RDC (Sandra Cunningham) if she was running. I was also told thats how the question was asked for the poll. That she was undecided on running , would you still vote for her ? This probably was the HCDO poll due to the fact that they tried to get Odea to run as their canidate. : Why didn't get numbers for any of the possible Reform Democrat candidates? : : A source close to one of the major camps leaked this poll to me : : : Odea 21% : : Manzo 20% : : Healy 14% : : Smith 10% : : McCann 4% : : Carol 2% : : Other 11% : : Undecided 18 % : : Error +/- 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** Serious posted Message 4569 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2004 at 08:49:09 Subject: All candidates haven't announced yet. Don't sleep. The race hasn't started yet. Those mayoral polls don't mean squat until ALL the candidates have announced. There are more to come. Believe it!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Intense posted Message 4570 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2004 at 08:55:39 Subject: Rookie cops The City needs to pay for PR training for their rookie cops. Their attitude will get them killed in the streets. We have guns too. 9 times out of 10 these punks used to get their asses kicked and got no respect. That's why they they become cops. So people will have to listen and respect them. Never. You a punk without a badge and a bigger punk with one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4571 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2004 at 09:26:47 Subject: Hudson County has two questionable traditions in polls. I'd be interested in see/hearing exactly how the poll was conducted. Hudson County has two questionable traditions in polls. The one is the push poll. In 97, a telephone poll was conducted asking first which candidate you preferred. When I answered Schundler, I was asked if I was aware of his connection to far Right Wing figures like Newt Gingrich and if that was going to affect my vote. I don't know if there was any sort of followup question if you aswered with Healy as your choice. The other long standing tradition is for the pollster to come up with whatver results the patron wants -- as luck would have it. It seems that many prominent figures are happy to pay large sums to consultants who don't challenge their views. : I was told the undecided vote was for a RDC (Sandra Cunningham) if she was running. I was also told thats how the question was asked for the poll. That she was undecided on running , would you still vote for her ? : This probably was the HCDO poll : due to the fact that they tried to get Odea to run as their canidate. : : Why didn't get numbers for any of the possible Reform Democrat candidates? : : : A source close to one of the major camps leaked this poll to me : : : : Odea 21% : : : Manzo 20% : : : Healy 14% : : : Smith 10% : : : McCann 4% : : : Carol 2% : : : Other 11% : : : Undecided 18 % : : : Error +/- 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** tris mccall posted Message 4572 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2004 at 13:17:50 Subject: the old gold smokestack and the jersey city arts district hi -- i'm de-lurking today because the arts center at 111 first street -- and by extension, the powerhouse arts district -- is at a crisis point. i've posted the petition to the site (july 27 entry). this petition discusses the most imminent threat. the rest of the site discusses the wider threat. http://www.trismccall.net/jersey_city_journal_jul.html thank you for reading, tris mccall ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4573 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2004 at 14:01:09 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** tip my canoe and I'll tip yours too posted Message 4574 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2004 at 15:30:54 Subject: Brian "Lion Cub" O'reilly Why did Smith give him the BA spot? O'reilly was one of the original Degise guys. Brian lost by a landslide to O'dea for freeholder, though you got to wonder if Fargo really slipped up big on that one or if he sold O'reilly out. If you want to know who is going to be the winner in an election just ask O'reilly what he thinks then pick the other guy. Brian was even betting on Florio over Corzine for the Senate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** tip my canoe and I'll tip yours too posted Message 4575 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2004 at 15:35:29 Subject: Hey, Tom what's it going to be in 2005? Are you backstabbing the Democrats for the guvernatorial run in Hudson or are you shoving it to Schundler? Or are you and Gaughan going to work tag team again, you for Schundler and Bill for the dems runner. As you is a debit in terms of votes, anybody clever would push to have you on the opposition as that is how you do the most harm. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thelma Tutt posted Message 4576 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2004 at 17:37:11 Subject: police ab use : . . . : >I don't have money to pay for a team of six shooters to protect me. I am not OJ nor can I afford Johnny cocran. >I had to mispell the last name as it is not accepted by the editor. : The lawyer's name is Johnnie Cochran. What were you thinking of? Yes, I am thinking of Johnnie Cochran, and how can I get in touch with him? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hopeless in Hudson posted Message 4577 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 28, 2004 at 18:01:34 Subject: Re: Hey, Tom what's it going to be in 2005? DeGise's strength comes from Menendez and the north. With the Congressman losing ground in the delegation as well as in Washington, he will be hard pressed to offer anyone else to run against DeGise...if he decides DeGise is getting too independent. So where does that leave us? Well...Gaughan (a true blood-suking leach) follows the money and would no doubt turn on the Congressman if he felt his paycheck was in jeapordy. And the Congressman would dump Tommy boy in a second if he thought he could be beaten by ...hmm.... let's say a surrogate of the next JC Mayor who may or may not feel indebted to the Congressman. Afterall Menendez and his HCDO are backing two candidates. That's the perfect way to engender anger from the loser and the winner too. So....will the future Mayor of JC go against the 300 pound Gorilla and back someone else for Co Exec? Will the Congressman find his poll numbers slipping as he loses ground and the spotlight to the possibility of a Democratic President? Will Menendez produce the kind of numbers necessary to show the future occupant of the Whitehouse that he has some value and should be supported in his next race? Or will Menendez look to protect his own pocketbook and look for some appointment from the future President Kerry? Then he can pocket all that campaign cash he's been hoarding for years. So many questions and so few answers. But if anyone thinks that DeGise has complete control of his own future.....think again. : Are you backstabbing the Democrats for the guvernatorial run in Hudson or are you shoving it to Schundler? : Or are you and Gaughan going to work tag team again, you for Schundler and Bill for the dems runner. : As you is a debit in terms of votes, anybody clever would push to have you on the opposition as that is how you do the most harm. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Garrison posted Message 4578 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 07:42:33 Subject: Re: Check the Grassy Knoll : Some pretty wild conspiracy theories there guy. Wild being a euphemism for dumb. Some assumptions based on wishful thinking too. Menendez losing ground in Washington? I think not. And there will be 2 mayoral elections before the County Exec is up again. But maybe if you close your eyes and tap your heels together 3 times and wish real real hard you can make it all come true. Its your only shot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4579 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 08:12:18 Subject: the hunt for the snark? After shooting the snark, the hunter disappeared. Wasn't Bill Ayala going to take the hunt for Menendez to the halls of Congress? I saw Menendez on TV the other night. Where's Bill Ayala been of late? Something Congressman Menendez could see on the horizon is a challenger in North Hudson who promises to champion Latin American issues more vigorously. In effect, Menendez's convention speech coming back to haunt him. : : Some pretty wild conspiracy theories there guy. Wild being a euphemism for dumb. Some assumptions based on wishful thinking too. Menendez losing ground in Washington? I think not. And there will be 2 mayoral elections before the County Exec is up again. But maybe if you close your eyes and tap your heels together 3 times and wish real real hard you can make it all come true. Its your only shot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey Smith posted Message 4580 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 08:58:47 Subject: Willie Flood For MAYOR!!!!!!! I think she should run. She will win!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4581 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 09:07:20 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hopeless in Hudson posted Message 4582 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 09:43:31 Subject: Check your Proz-c Rx Wild? Dumb? I think not Jimbo. Perhaps the clarity of those possibilities has you back on your heels. And certainly if Manzo wins for Mayor and neither of DeGise/Menendez's choices gets in... it may be time to see Tommy Boy go bye bye. And that would be a strong signal to the north that their golden boy Menendez is a bit tarnished. He spoke at the DNC...sure. But on the first night, with nearly no audience, and no network coverage. What a plumb the DNC has given him. In my estimation Bob Menendez has already lost his luster in Washington, and we'll just have to wait and see how far he's fallen in the eyes of the party faithful. I wouldn't expect to see Kerry on the steps of the Brennen Court House as we had with Clinton when he was running. That will certainly be a tell tale sign of Menendez diminished stature in Congress. And for the record .... there is no conspiracy theory here. Just a respect for the electorate of our City and their ability to see when their interests are being subjegated to those of their neighbors solely for reasons of politics, power and patronage. So perhaps its time for YOU to take off the political blinders Jimbo and see things the way the folks in Paulus Hook, the Heights, Greenville, Bergen-Lafayette, Westside and Journal Square see all of this. : : Some pretty wild conspiracy theories there guy. Wild being a euphemism for dumb. Some assumptions based on wishful thinking too. Menendez losing ground in Washington? I think not. And there will be 2 mayoral elections before the County Exec is up again. But maybe if you close your eyes and tap your heels together 3 times and wish real real hard you can make it all come true. Its your only shot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4583 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 12:39:17 Subject: County Executive Tom DeGise I said this once and i will say it again.Tom DeGise, is the best thing to happen in Hudson County Politics in a long Time.He is bright, Honest and decent.Maybe that is the reason some in HC are trying to undermine him.But good always wins out.Lets hope we elect more like Tom and less like a lot of the past elected officials. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom NoBrainer posted Message 4584 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 13:48:51 Subject: Re: County Executive Tom DeGise : I said this once and i will say it again.Tom DeGise, is the best sand castle builder in Hudson County. He is bright, Honest and decent.Maybe that is the reason NurseBetsy, Nurse Val, Nurse Midge and Dr-X-Ray try to undermine him. They are afraid he will take there jobs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not Jimbo posted Message 4585 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 14:45:36 Subject: Re: Check your Proz-c Rx Yeh, you're right . Menendez really got screwed. They stuck on the same night that Gore, Carter and both Clintons spoke. And his role as the highest ranking Hispanic member of Kerry's campaign will really hasten his demise.All this coming after he squeaked by the primary with over 80% of the vote. Lou Manzo on the other hand is a rising star. Now making his 4th run for mayor despite never having made a run-off. But he figures to do much better with a convicted felon as his chief of staff and his brother(and fiancier) also copping to a felony as he continues to cooperate with the U.S. attorney. His campaign manager is telling people he is only lending his name and no effort and the Cunningham people can't stand him. Your logic is impeccable. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uncle Harvey posted Message 4586 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 14:56:26 Subject: Willie Flood For MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is the best person for the job. She WILL win if she runs!! Everybody knows it. I hope she does. If you are reading this Willie we are behind you all the way!!!!! Willie! Willie! Willie! This town needs a FLOOD of justice and fair play. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood Jr. posted Message 4587 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 15:04:53 Subject: Re: I have been told ... : that Dublin is as dumb as they come. A perfect stooge for Cardwell and Jackson. : It figures that Willie Flood would speak fondly of him. Stupid is as stupid does. Yeah? We will see who is stupid. Just wait. We're gonna give everybody something to talk about. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 4588 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 15:27:59 Subject: Tactics. All these negative posts and name calling just shows everybody where the REAL fear lies. It lies in Willie Flood. See, when the truth is about to come out the liars and kinivers do anything they can to discredit the person who is going to tell it. Calling her dumb and stupid is a great disrespect to a woman who has NEVER disrespected ANYONE. Even if they are disrespecting her. She is woman enough to take it in stride and put it all in GOD's hands. She has more courage, brains, and integrety than all you political lackeys combined. Yes it peeves me to hear people talk like this about the "Queen" who carried and birthed me, yeah it makes me want to bash someones skull open, but that's just the attitude that they expect me to take. You have another thing coming. They have raised me better than that and they have trained me on how to deal with vicious illiterate people like the cowards who are to scared to say their names but will disrespect MY MOTHER. I said my name. Be a man and say yours. I hope she does run for mayor. Nobody will be strong enough to beat her. Manzo Healy they only won and got to where they are because of her coattails. Some of the biggest politicians got their start from WILLIE FLOOD. Lets not forget!!! I didn't!!!!! Laugh now cry later!!! Thats what I say. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4589 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 15:52:34 Subject: Newhouse News Service in the Obituaries Jeepers, I know that the Jersey Journal wasn't the same after Peter Weiss died, but this is a real shock. Click the Link and look under Tuesday, July 27, 2004. ***************** End Of Article ****************** you have way to much time on your hands.......lol posted Message 4590 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 16:03:49 Subject: Re: Newhouse News Service in the Obituaries : Jeepers, I know that the Jersey Journal wasn't the same after Peter Weiss died, but this is a real shock. : Click the Link and look under Tuesday, July 27, 2004. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hopeless on the Hudson posted Message 4591 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 16:05:05 Subject: Re: Check your Proz-c Rx Menendez was nothing more than political kindling for the convention. Just start the fire with useless scraps and the real blaze gets going with the real fuel like Gore, Clinton and Carter. Menendez is nothing in this party any longer. He has repeatedly proven his inability to even influence the political happenings in Hudson, much less Trenton or Washington. He is about as Hispanic as Howdey Doodie and getting 80% in a Hudson Primary (70% bought and paid for) against a no-name opponenet is really no accomplishment. Menendez is going nowhere fast. If he really thought he had the support of the State Dems, he would have gone after the Torch's seat. But he knows he's lucky to even hold a political office. And we'll never forget his loyalty to those around him and those who brought him up through the ranks. Billy Musto never forgots. Menendez is a self-serving useless POS who will find himself on the scrap heap of Hudson Politics in short order. And not a minute too soon. : Yeh, you're right . Menendez really got screwed. They stuck on the same night that Gore, Carter and both Clintons spoke. And his role as the highest ranking Hispanic member of Kerry's campaign will really hasten his demise.All this coming after he squeaked by the primary with over 80% of the vote. Lou Manzo on the other hand is a rising star. Now making his 4th run for mayor despite never having made a run-off. But he figures to do much better with a convicted felon as his chief of staff and his brother(and fiancier) also copping to a felony as he continues to cooperate with the U.S. attorney. His campaign manager is telling people he is only lending his name and no effort and the Cunningham people can't stand him. Your logic is impeccable. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4592 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 16:34:03 Subject: Not a sparrow falls. . . : : Jeepers, I know that the Jersey Journal wasn't the same after Peter Weiss died, but this is a real shock. : : Click the Link and look under Tuesday, July 27, 2004. It just jumped off of the screen and bit me! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Garrison posted Message 4593 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 16:41:12 Subject: Re: Great Fantasy : I gotta believe that you don't believe the drivel coming from your messages. The man is chairman of the Democratic Caucus in Congress and loser Louie won one election on the coat tails of a guy who now deceased. It pleases me how much Menendez' success ticks you off. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4594 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 18:01:22 Subject: Menendez War Chest In your original post you posited the possibility (sorry, I couldn't stop myself) that Menendez can "pocket all that campaign cash he's been hoarding for years." Though I understand a million dollars in campaign cash was part of the Guarini (what a set of shoes to fill) retirement package, I don't think that is legally in the cards now. I do believe that Menendez can give away the money to whatever charities and/or candidates that he wants. Might it be permissable to set up a non-profit, fund it with campaign $$$, and then pay yourself and friends big buck salaries? : Menendez was nothing more than political kindling for the convention. Just start the fire with useless scraps and the real blaze gets going with the real fuel like Gore, Clinton and Carter. Menendez is nothing in this party any longer. He has repeatedly proven his inability to even influence the political happenings in Hudson, much less Trenton or Washington. He is about as Hispanic as Howdey Doodie and getting 80% in a Hudson Primary (70% bought and paid for) against a no-name opponenet is really no accomplishment. Menendez is going nowhere fast. If he really thought he had the support of the State Dems, he would have gone after the Torch's seat. But he knows he's lucky to even hold a political office. And we'll never forget his loyalty to those around him and those who brought him up through the ranks. Billy Musto never forgots. Menendez is a self-serving useless POS who will find himself on the scrap heap of Hudson Politics in short order. And not a minute too soon. : : Yeh, you're right . Menendez really got screwed. They stuck on the same night that Gore, Carter and both Clintons spoke. And his role as the highest ranking Hispanic member of Kerry's campaign will really hasten his demise.All this coming after he squeaked by the primary with over 80% of the vote. Lou Manzo on the other hand is a rising star. Now making his 4th run for mayor despite never having made a run-off. But he figures to do much better with a convicted felon as his chief of staff and his brother(and fiancier) also copping to a felony as he continues to cooperate with the U.S. attorney. His campaign manager is telling people he is only lending his name and no effort and the Cunningham people can't stand him. Your logic is impeccable. ***************** End Of Article ****************** oh boy posted Message 4595 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 18:24:54 Subject: Re: Tactics. : All these negative posts and name calling just shows everybody where the REAL fear lies. It lies in Willie Flood. See, when the truth is about to come out the liars and kinivers do anything they can to discredit the person who is going to tell it. Calling her dumb and stupid is a great disrespect to a woman who has NEVER disrespected ANYONE. Even if they are disrespecting her. She is woman enough to take it in stride and put it all in GOD's hands. She has more courage, brains, and integrety than all you political lackeys combined. Yes it peeves me to hear people talk like this about the "Queen" who carried and birthed me, yeah it makes me want to bash someones skull open, but that's just the attitude that they expect me to take. You have another thing coming. They have raised me better than that and they have trained me on how to deal with vicious illiterate people like the cowards who are to scared to say their names but will disrespect MY MOTHER. I said my name. Be a man and say yours. I hope she does run for mayor. Nobody will be strong enough to beat her. Manzo Healy they only won and got to where they are because of her coattails. Some of the biggest politicians got their start from WILLIE FLOOD. Lets not forget!!! I didn't!!!!! Laugh now cry later!!! Thats what I say. :::What a post. Ebonics rules. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown@aol.com posted Message 4596 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 19:56:11 Subject: Re: Brian Dorf's first words back City Hall? I know for a fact that Brian dorf is not replacing Ayala .. He has no desire to get back into politics after the crap that all of Ayala and his political thugs put him through. I am glad to hear Ayala is practically beign flushed down the political pipes of Jersey City. Also I know for a fact that Brian would make a better political figure than Ayala .. Go Dorf!! : This place should have a revolving door! : : Talk about payback....wouldn't that be a twist. Ayala targetted that guy from the begnning. Now its Ayala's turn to get a knife in his back. He's going to learn the hard way that what goes around comes around. Nothing could be more poetic. : : : Replacing Ayala? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mark Fagon posted Message 4597 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 20:22:02 Subject: Re: It would be nice .. Yeah too bad The Chief of Police of Jersey City voted out of his Sussex County residence last year. Should be an interesting court battle as he will have to defend why he not only voted outside Jersey City, by the Chief who will tout a message of safe streets for Jersey City decidedit was better living in Sussex county. Maybe he can do another poll to make up his mind or see who he will support. Bring him on! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood Watch posted Message 4598 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 20:26:25 Subject: Re: Tactics. She couldn't even win council at large in 1997. Watch as she joins Healy's team. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marc Zimmermann posted Message 4599 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 20:33:37 Subject: Tom Gaynor Tom, You still making threatening phone call from work to people who write negative letters in the Jersey Journal about your wife? I remember foundly how you had to put your tail between your legs and apologized when you got caught and outed, afraid your employers would find out. Be carefuul about those liquid lunchs at Lehman and leaving stupid messages on someone's taped answering machine. You would think you would know better working at the brokerage house and all phone calls taped as well. PS I still have the tape! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inquiring mind. posted Message 4600 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 21:24:25 Subject: Is she really running ? Or is this just UTN blather ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Church Lady posted Message 4601 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 21:27:24 Subject: Touchy touchy !! Who got your undies all tied in a knot ? Was it ..... SATAN ???!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** lol waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much time.....good find! posted Message 4602 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2004 at 22:22:04 Subject: Re: Not a sparrow falls. . . : : : Jeepers, I know that the Jersey Journal wasn't the same after Peter Weiss died, but this is a real shock. : : : Click the Link and look under Tuesday, July 27, 2004. : It just jumped off of the screen and bit me! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nurse Betsey posted Message 4603 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 07:20:49 Subject: Marc ,save the tape It will be worth a lot of money someday I will give you $1,000 for it.You are sure a lucky guy.A little nuts but lucky. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsey is all Wetsey posted Message 4604 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 07:51:18 Subject: Re: Marc ,save the tape It will be worth a lot of money someday : I will give you $1,000 Monopoly money for it.You are sure a lucky guy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nurse Midge posted Message 4605 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 07:55:33 Subject: A tape of Tom Gaynor-I will give you $2,000 That is something i have been dying to have all my life.Could you play it for everyone to hear.It must be very rare.Marc. some people are so lucky.You must be one of them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nurse Smidge posted Message 4606 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 09:11:42 Subject: Re: A tape of Tom Gaynor-I will give you $2,000 : Just what i have been dying to have all my life.Could you play it for everyone to hear.It must be very rare.Marc. some people are so lucky.You aint one of them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hopeless in Hudson posted Message 4607 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 09:37:06 Subject: Re: Menendez War Chest NO doubt Menendez has thought through his sheme to pocket his ill-gotten gains. A non-profit with a "salaried executive" to oversee the distribution of funds is one possibility. A scholarship fund with him being the sole board member is another. A Political Action Committee controlled by the retired Congressman is a third. Trust me.... this guy probably has 5 or 10 options and may employ two or three of them to help launder his cash. I have no faith in this guy's honesty. He would have gone down years ago had he not rolled on Billy Musto. Dirty then....dirty now. More than one person in the know has pointed fingers at him when it comes to all of those investigations and indictments in Hudson. His only reason to be wrapped up in dismantling the HCDO was to rebuild it to serve his own narrow interestsl. So far he seems to have succeeded with no fingers pointed in his direction. And his mouthpiece has the nerve to cast accusations at Lou Manzo? What a laugh. If this fool wasn't Hispanic...he would be in jail. : In your original post you posited the possibility (sorry, I couldn't stop myself) that Menendez can "pocket all that campaign cash he's been hoarding for years." Though I understand a million dollars in campaign cash was part of the Guarini (what a set of shoes to fill) retirement package, I don't think that is legally in the cards now. : I do believe that Menendez can give away the money to whatever charities and/or candidates that he wants. : Might it be permissable to set up a non-profit, fund it with campaign $$$, and then pay yourself and friends big buck salaries? : : Menendez was nothing more than political kindling for the convention. Just start the fire with useless scraps and the real blaze gets going with the real fuel like Gore, Clinton and Carter. Menendez is nothing in this party any longer. He has repeatedly proven his inability to even influence the political happenings in Hudson, much less Trenton or Washington. He is about as Hispanic as Howdey Doodie and getting 80% in a Hudson Primary (70% bought and paid for) against a no-name opponenet is really no accomplishment. Menendez is going nowhere fast. If he really thought he had the support of the State Dems, he would have gone after the Torch's seat. But he knows he's lucky to even hold a political office. And we'll never forget his loyalty to those around him and those who brought him up through the ranks. Billy Musto never forgots. Menendez is a self-serving useless POS who will find himself on the scrap heap of Hudson Politics in short order. And not a minute too soon. : : : Yeh, you're right . Menendez really got screwed. They stuck on the same night that Gore, Carter and both Clintons spoke. And his role as the highest ranking Hispanic member of Kerry's campaign will really hasten his demise.All this coming after he squeaked by the primary with over 80% of the vote. Lou Manzo on the other hand is a rising star. Now making his 4th run for mayor despite never having made a run-off. But he figures to do much better with a convicted felon as his chief of staff and his brother(and fiancier) also copping to a felony as he continues to cooperate with the U.S. attorney. His campaign manager is telling people he is only lending his name and no effort and the Cunningham people can't stand him. Your logic is impeccable. ***************** End Of Article ****************** teacher posted Message 4608 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 09:53:45 Subject: Re: Tactics. : All these negative posts and name calling just shows everybody where the REAL fear lies. It lies in Willie Flood. See, when the truth is about to come out the liars and kinivers do anything they can to discredit the person who is going to tell it. Calling her dumb and stupid is a great disrespect to a woman who has NEVER disrespected ANYONE. Even if they are disrespecting her. She is woman enough to take it in stride and put it all in GOD's hands. She has more courage, brains, and integrety than all you political lackeys combined. Yes it peeves me to hear people talk like this about the "Queen" who carried and birthed me, yeah it makes me want to bash someones skull open, but that's just the attitude that they expect me to take. You have another thing coming. They have raised me better than that and they have trained me on how to deal with vicious illiterate people like the cowards who are to scared to say their names but will disrespect MY MOTHER. I said my name. Be a man and say yours. I hope she does run for mayor. Nobody will be strong enough to beat her. Manzo Healy they only won and got to where they are because of her coattails. Some of the biggest politicians got their start from WILLIE FLOOD. Lets not forget!!! I didn't!!!!! Laugh now cry later!!! Thats what I say. :::Talk about disrespect. You show utter contempt for anyone who ever tried to teach you the English language or how to write a cogent essay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez' Problem posted Message 4609 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 12:40:57 Subject: Re: the hunt for the snark? The only thing about Menendez that remains Hispanic is his name. He has been so asimilated into the Washington political machine that he's forgotten his roots in his community. Put him in the mid-west and don't tell anyone his last name and they'll swear he's a good ole boy from Kansas. And unfortunately that's how he's conductedhimselfin Congress too. As for Ayala....he's just a bad memory. A blip on the political radar screen. A footnote in the history of JC politics. : After shooting the snark, the hunter disappeared. : Wasn't Bill Ayala going to take the hunt for Menendez to the halls of Congress? I saw Menendez on TV the other night. Where's Bill Ayala been of late? : Something Congressman Menendez could see on the horizon is a challenger in North Hudson who promises to champion Latin American issues more vigorously. In effect, Menendez's convention speech coming back to haunt him. : : : Some pretty wild conspiracy theories there guy. Wild being a euphemism for dumb. Some assumptions based on wishful thinking too. Menendez losing ground in Washington? I think not. And there will be 2 mayoral elections before the County Exec is up again. But maybe if you close your eyes and tap your heels together 3 times and wish real real hard you can make it all come true. Its your only shot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marc Zimmermann posted Message 4610 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 12:51:22 Subject: Tom Gaynor - remember the phone call? Back in April 1997, I wrote a letter to the Jersey Journal criticizing the Schundler Administration and specifically then Councilwoman Nancy Gaynor. Tom was doing everything to get his wife re-elected. The day the letter was published, I got home and on my answering machine was a male’s voice threatening me and I better keep quiet up or something was going to happen to my family. He went into some details as to he was watching me and my family. When I replayed the tape I could hear others on phones in the background, but what was very evident was the caller was slurring his words. Sounded as if he had come back from a liquid lunch. Having caller ID and checking the time on the answering machine tape, the call came from Lehman Brothers. The following day I called Lehman Brothers, spoke to someone high up and explained the issue. I played the tape and they immediately identified it as Tom Gaynor. His own company not only outted him, but was willing to assist me if I choose to go further with the threatening phone call. Lehman told me they would give me their tape of Gaynor they record of all brokers they records for transaction purposes to show it was indeed him. When I replayed the tape I could hear others on phones in the background, but what was very evident was the caller was slurring his words. Sounded as if he had come back from a liquid lunch. Having caller ID and checking the time on the answering machine tape, the call came from Lehman Brothers. The following day I called Lehman Brothers, spoke to someone high up and explained the issue. I played the tape and they immediately identified it as Tom Gaynor. His own company not only outted him, but was willing to assist me if I choose to go further with the threatening phone call. Lehman told me they would give me their tape of Gaynor they record of all brokers they records for transaction purposes to show it was indeed him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marc Zimmermann posted Message 4611 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 12:57:46 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor - Continued... Continued... Shortly after my call to lehman, I received another call from Gaynor who apologized profusely, admitted he had a few drinks at lunch before he made the call the day before. He had come back, read the paper was was angry, so he tracked my phone number down and called. Gaynor did say the campaign was getting to him. He pressed me not to do anything and wanted to meet me to get the tape and would do anything as long as the tape was in his possession. I think he may have even offered me tickets to a game. He insisted he needed he copy of that tape and wanted to meet in a Jersey City Diner so I could hand over the tape to him. I dropped the issue then for my family's sake, but kept the tape. What a clown, not only to call me from his business phone that records the calls, then not realizing people have caller ID, but on to of that not leaving a name and to threaten me and my family. I wasn’t going to forget it. Perhaps one day I may put the tape out on EBay, or better on the Internet so all can hear. Now Tommy, sit down have a drink or perhaps two or three drinks and think that this political blunder over again for now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood Watch posted Message 4612 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 13:02:32 Subject: Re: Is she really running ? : Or is this just UTN blather ? You need pepole and money to run for office, for starters. Flood has neither, nor the backing of anyone who has both also! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom gaynor posted Message 4613 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 14:40:12 Subject: Marc--Play the taper for all to hear. I am sur GetNJ.com would play it.Silly little boy ,you are. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4614 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 15:19:28 Subject: Play the taper? Isn't a taper like a pig with a trunk? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roaring20s posted Message 4615 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 16:41:25 Subject: Re: Play the taper? No that is a tapir...a taper is a candle, I think. : Isn't a taper like a pig with a trunk? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marc Zimmermann posted Message 4616 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 16:42:36 Subject: Re: Marc--Play the taper for all to hear. In due time Tom. Back from your Boston Stuper? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Monica Harmonica posted Message 4617 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 22:27:00 Subject: No no no A taper is like Linda Tripp .. that's sorta like a pig with a trunk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weezil Deal posted Message 4618 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 23:22:44 Subject: Disturbing. Was watching Harvey on cable TV tonite. Roger Jones as chief of staff ? And Muhammad Akil as a mayoral aide ? Jones is a misogynistic mercenary who will sell himself to the highest bidder. In tours with McConn and others he showed himself to be a venal and totally unscrupulous individual. Akil is a disgraced former Cunningham lackey who was fired by Glenn for inappropriate conduct. I would hope that Harvey could find better people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Divine Guidance posted Message 4619 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 23:36:02 Subject: Re: Disturbing. You had better do more than just hope....you had better PRAY. : Was watching Harvey on cable TV tonite. Roger Jones as chief of staff ? And Muhammad Akil as a mayoral aide ? : Jones is a misogynistic mercenary who will sell himself to the highest bidder. In tours with McConn and others he showed himself to be a venal and totally unscrupulous individual. : Akil is a disgraced former Cunningham lackey who was fired by Glenn for inappropriate conduct. : I would hope that Harvey could find better people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Accolades to Zimmerman posted Message 4620 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 30, 2004 at 23:45:13 Subject: Bravo You people should be applauding this guy for having the guts to call a spade a spade. The Gaynors have been on the political dole for too long and should be (like someone said on this board a while back) FLUSHED FROM THE POLITICAL PIPES OF JERSEY CITY just like Bill Ayala was. We don't need the Gaynors s-cking us dry like the leaches they are. The next guy or woman in the Mayor's office will need some help from Roter Rooter to dislodge some of these crustations. : A taper is like Linda Tripp .. that's sorta like a pig with a trunk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4621 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 06:04:53 Subject: Re: Bravo Story was making the rounds a few years back about some gal hired as assistant to the aide (or aide to the assistant) by Bobby J. She came in for a few days but didn't seem to like the job and just stopped showing up at good ol' 595. Everybody in the same office just figgered that she had moved out and on to bigger and better things. A couple of years later, just a week after Bobby J dropped out from sight, the woman's letter of resignation appeared. It turned out that she had continued on the payroll at $85k per annum unbeknownst to her "co-workers." : You people should be applauding this guy for having the guts to call a spade a spade. The Gaynors have been on the political dole for too long and should be (like someone said on this board a while back) FLUSHED FROM THE POLITICAL PIPES OF JERSEY CITY just like Bill Ayala was. We don't need the Gaynors s-cking us dry like the leaches they are. The next guy or woman in the Mayor's office will need some help from Roter Rooter to dislodge some of these crustations. : : A taper is like Linda Tripp .. that's sorta like a pig with a trunk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ROFLMAO posted Message 4622 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 07:31:52 Subject: Re: No no no That's funny...thanks for the laugh! : A taper is like Linda Tripp .. that's sorta like a pig with a trunk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4623 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 08:22:32 Subject: Clearly, there's no expectation of privacy Clearly, there's no expectation of privacy for speech left on an answering machine as described by Mr. Zimmerman. Perhaps the exception would be for a telephone recording device in the service of a health care professional, clergy, or a lawyer. As I've not heard the tape in question (and even then one would need either an admission of guilt or proof of identity by spectral analysis), I, of course, can't comment on this specific situation. But, making a threat of harm to someone's family is reprehensible UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES! Doing so anonymously amplifies the offense through cowardice. In case it was misunderstood, my "taper" post was intended as a poke at the typo with the hint that the Board was turning into a zoo! I did not intend any comment on the actions of Marc Zimmerman. If the situation is as Mr. Zimmerman describes, he acted with compasson and restraint. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4624 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 08:32:54 Subject: Marc --Play the tape-or go back to dreaming Jersey City still needs honest government.Play the tape or you are exposed for what you are,a liar. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4625 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 08:32:59 Subject: Marc --Play the tape-or go back to dreaming Jersey City still needs honest government.Play the tape or you are exposed for what you are,a liar. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4626 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 08:44:30 Subject: Re: Marc --Play the tape-or go back to dreaming : Jersey City still needs honest government.Play the tape or you are exposed for what you are,a liar. As Tom Gaynor appears to have requested that the recording be made public, I am offering to do so here at GET NJ. If supplied with a copy of the tape (or a WAV or MP3 file), I'll make it available for all to hear on the Internet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I want to hear the tape posted Message 4627 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 10:14:00 Subject: Thank You Anthony Thank you Anthony ..... I am very interested in hearing Marc's tape. Nothing coming out of Gaynors Big Mouth would suprize me. : : Jersey City still needs honest government.Play the tape or you are exposed for what you are,a liar. : As Tom Gaynor appears to have requested that the recording be made public, I am offering to do so here at GET NJ. : If supplied with a copy of the tape (or a WAV or MP3 file), I'll make it available for all to hear on the Internet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom NoBrainer posted Message 4628 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 17:59:14 Subject: Re: Marc --Play the tape-so I can go back to dreaming : Jersey City still needs for you to Play the tape to exposed me for what i am,a nut. ***************** End Of Article ****************** or is it what a difference a death makes. posted Message 4629 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 18:11:39 Subject: What a difference a day makes GETNJ cuts deal with Smiths people Glazer cuts deal with the Mennendez people and Maureen Cochoran is now a HCDOer ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4630 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 18:34:14 Subject: Did you try to post a picture? Did you send me a picture to post? Did you try to post a picture? Did you send me a picture to post? I've told all three announced candidates's camps that I'm happy to post their information here. Manzo and Healy people, get yer dead deryyairs some motivation! : GETNJ cuts deal with Smiths people : Glazer cuts deal with the Mennendez people : and Maureen Cochoran is now a HCDOer ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 4631 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 18:41:06 Subject: Biography of Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith A life-long resident of Jersey City, L. Harvey Smith, who is also the Council President, has led a distinguished career as a public official and community leader. Elected to his first Council term in May of 1993, Acting Mayor Smith is currently serving a third, unprecedented term on the City Council. One of his most notable achievements during his tenure on the City Council was the revitalization of Martin Luther King Drive in the heart of the city's African-American community, in which he helped acquire the property to build the HUB and the new Post Office and relocate families during this commercial rebirth. Acting Mayor Smith, who as City Councilman aided in the expansion of the City's Gold Coast and the development of more than 800 units of affordable housing, also served as State Senator for the 31st Legislative District, filling out the unexpired term of Senator Joseph Charles. When the term expired, he was appointed as Undersheriff for Hudson County, in charge of all civilian personnel. In his continuing efforts to both educate and enrich the lives of the City's youth, Acting Mayor Smith spent most of his career in service as an educator, first as an Academic Advisor at Hudson County Vocation School and as a Physical Education and Health teacher in the Jersey City Public School System. He later went on to serve as Crisis Intervention teacher at William L. Dickinson High School, where he utilized his skills of one-on-one counseling that he first implemented while Director of the Jersey City Boys Club. Acting Mayor Smith holds a Bachelor of Science in Health and Physical Education from Long Island University, a Masters Degree in Counseling from Jersey City State College (now New Jersey City University), and is currently pursuing a Masters Degree in School Psychology. Acting Mayor Smith has also served on a number of city boards and agencies, the most prominent being the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uncle Harvey Has Been Exposed posted Message 4632 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 20:52:39 Subject: Voters All Know Uncle Harvey The People of Jersey City Know Uncle Harvey answers to Menendez. Uncle Harvey will come in 4th on Election Day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nah...he answers to Roger Jones who answers to McCann. DUMB DUMB HARVEY ,WHEN WILL U EVER LEARN posted Message 4633 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 22:08:07 Subject: Re: Voters All Know Uncle Harvey : The People of Jersey City Know Uncle Harvey answers to Menendez. : Uncle Harvey will come in 4th on Election Day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mary Armstrong posted Message 4634 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 31, 2004 at 22:15:15 Subject: Re: L. Harvey Smith's Speech lipitor BOFH Excuse #405: Sysadmins unavailable because they are in a meeting talking about why they are unavailable so much. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4635 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 07:40:44 Subject: Get NJ -went will you be playing Marcs tape of Me I cant wait to hear it.Dont hold your breath,it may be a very,very,very long time before you hear it.You can take that to the bank.Right Marc ,my boy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4636 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 07:47:25 Subject: Sorry-- it should be When Its too early in the morning. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hey Tom... you really do have some major issues. As a matter of fact,,,,, your issues have issues!!!! posted Message 4637 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 08:47:19 Subject: Re: Get NJ -went will you be playing Marcs tape of Me P R O Z A C GET SOME! ***************** End Of Article ****************** uturn posted Message 4638 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 09:38:26 Subject: Re: Ran into a Gaughan Club Foot Soldier : : : Up here in the northern reaches of beautiful Jersey City, I ran into a Gaughan Club foot soldier. He made sure that I got an earful of his take on things. Here's what he had to say: : : : * Menendez never did nothing for Degise. : : : * Degise lost to Cunningham in the Jersey City Mayor's race because of Menendez. Nobody better ever forget that. : : : * Degise won County Executive strictly on his own merits. It had nothing to do with Menendez. As far as that goes, Degise lost the Jersey City vote in the County Executive race only because of Menendez's feud with Cunningham. : : : * Degise don't need Menendez. And, Menendez ain't as big as he makes out to be. There's a guy from South Jersey that's the real big shot. : : : How do you think this guy ever came up with his ideas? : : :He must have listened to gaughan's son-in-law who remembered something he overheard during a rare sober moment. : :::From the tone of the post, I thought it was his son-in-law. ::you had to see it. son in law at gaughan's club kick off for jerry's run standing in doorway screaming "what about me" when tributes were being given. he's an out of control torpedo who will cost any candidate who tolerates his presence alot of votes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** tip my canoe and I'll tip yours too posted Message 4639 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 10:24:57 Subject: Who shrunk the Reform Democrats Before May 25th the Reform Democrats seemed like a pit bull with all of Jersey City its back yard. Now the Reform dems seem like a yorkie puppy chasing its own tail. What happened? Sure, Glenn was a great guy and Harvey and the HCDO got the keys to the kingdom, but poof and all the rest just shrunk down to little figurines. Watching the funeral I figured that there was going to be a national movement taking root in Jersey City and only after that there's Sandy's waste time press conference and nobody knows nothing. What happened to all of Glenn's people are they strategically retreated and ready to advance again in force this November. Manzo keeps claiming to be the heir but I don't hear that from any of the Cunningham people and nobody seems to believe it. Is Chief Ron going to run with the backing of the Reform group? Desoto says she is running with the backing of Jackson and Cardwell but nobody seems to think she has got a chance. If Jackson and Cardwell were making any kind of effort wouldn;t she have a chance. People say that since she'll be off of the organization line with Kerry at the top Desoto is wasting everybody time her's included first. And what is going on with the Urban Times News, with no politics column worth spit in the Joiky Joinal you would think that Jackso would be ready to get on top. No they dump all there staff and shrink the paper down and get even get the layout straight and you again can;t read the thing with all words spelled wrong like it was before Glenn got their ball rolling for them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** All quiet on the western front posted Message 4640 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 11:09:28 Subject: Re: Who shrunk the Reform Democrats It looks like the ones who could cause trouble were given consolation prizes to just smile and shut up. The rest went to any port in the storm or are lost at sea just trying to be ignored so that they don't wind up with their rears separated from the rest of their anatomies. : May 25th the Reform Democrats seemed like a pit bull with all of Jersey City its back yard. Now the Reform dems seem like a yorkie puppy chasing its own tail. What happened? Sure, Glenn was a great guy and Harvey and the HCDO got the keys to the kingdom, but poof and all the rest just shrunk down to little figurines. : Watching the funeral I figured that there was going to be a national movement taking root in Jersey City and only after that there's Sandy's waste time press conference and nobody knows nothing. : What happened to all of Glenn's people are they strategically retreated and ready to advance again in force this November. Manzo keeps claiming to be the heir but I don't hear that from any of the Cunningham people and nobody seems to believe it. Is Chief Ron going to run with the backing of the Reform group? Desoto says she is running with the backing of Jackson and Cardwell but nobody seems to think she has got a chance. If Jackson and Cardwell were making any kind of effort wouldn;t she have a chance. People say that since she'll be off of the organization line with Kerry at the top Desoto is wasting everybody time her's included first. : And what is going on with the Urban Times News, with no politics column worth spit in the Joiky Joinal you would think that Jackso would be ready to get on top. No they dump all there staff and shrink the paper down and get even get the layout straight and you again can;t read the thing with all words spelled wrong like it was before Glenn got their ball rolling for them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** what Lou Manzo said the 2nd time Schundler kicked his butt posted Message 4641 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 12:24:40 Subject: I feel like I've been hit by a refridgerator. Just say NO to a 3 time loser! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4642 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 14:57:15 Subject: FBI Web Site currently features Black Tom sabotage The current Main Page of the FBI Web Site has a feature on the German sabotage at Black Tom (now Liberty State Park) during WWII. For more information, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now that's good stuff...... posted Message 4643 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 15:17:21 Subject: Re: FBI Web Site currently features Black Tom sabotage : The current Main Page of the FBI Web Site has a feature on the German sabotage at Black Tom (now Liberty State Park) during WWII. : For more information, see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4644 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 16:08:15 Subject: Did anyone ever think that we'd see something like that again? In the early sixties, my father and I would go crabbing in the empty lots on the Waterfront before Liberty State Park was there. When he told be about the WWI sabotage, I was glad that I'd never see anything like that happen here again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I've looked at life from both sides now posted Message 4645 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 18:00:49 Subject: Glazer was the Napoleon of Hudson County Politics The wining streak of Glenn and the rest was all due to the inspiration and planning of Steve Glazer. Without him showing them the way both the reforms and the UTN fell apart. : Before May 25th the Reform Democrats seemed like a pit bull with all of Jersey City its back yard. Now the Reform dems seem like a yorkie puppy chasing its own tail. What happened? Sure, Glenn was a great guy and Harvey and the HCDO got the keys to the kingdom, but poof and all the rest just shrunk down to little figurines. : Watching the funeral I figured that there was going to be a national movement taking root in Jersey City and only after that there's Sandy's waste time press conference and nobody knows nothing. : What happened to all of Glenn's people are they strategically retreated and ready to advance again in force this November. Manzo keeps claiming to be the heir but I don't hear that from any of the Cunningham people and nobody seems to believe it. Is Chief Ron going to run with the backing of the Reform group? Desoto says she is running with the backing of Jackson and Cardwell but nobody seems to think she has got a chance. If Jackson and Cardwell were making any kind of effort wouldn;t she have a chance. People say that since she'll be off of the organization line with Kerry at the top Desoto is wasting everybody time her's included first. : And what is going on with the Urban Times News, with no politics column worth spit in the Joiky Joinal you would think that Jackso would be ready to get on top. No they dump all there staff and shrink the paper down and get even get the layout straight and you again can;t read the thing with all words spelled wrong like it was before Glenn got their ball rolling for them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Out of Character for Boss Bobalou posted Message 4646 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 22:34:08 Subject: Menendez Wants to Quit ?? Boss Bobalou might want to quit politics and head for the private sector ? ? So says Herb Jackson of The Record. Here is the link http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkyODgmZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY1NjIyMzMmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk5 ***************** End Of Article ****************** THIS IS GLAZER POSTING ABOUT HIMSELF....LOL...L*O*S*E*R posted Message 4647 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 22:34:33 Subject: Re: Glazer was the Napoleon of Hudson County Politics : The wining streak of Glenn and the rest was all due to the inspiration and planning of Steve Glazer. Without him showing them the way both the reforms and the UTN fell apart. : : Before May 25th the Reform Democrats seemed like a pit bull with all of Jersey City its back yard. Now the Reform dems seem like a yorkie puppy chasing its own tail. What happened? Sure, Glenn was a great guy and Harvey and the HCDO got the keys to the kingdom, but poof and all the rest just shrunk down to little figurines. : : Watching the funeral I figured that there was going to be a national movement taking root in Jersey City and only after that there's Sandy's waste time press conference and nobody knows nothing. : : What happened to all of Glenn's people are they strategically retreated and ready to advance again in force this November. Manzo keeps claiming to be the heir but I don't hear that from any of the Cunningham people and nobody seems to believe it. Is Chief Ron going to run with the backing of the Reform group? Desoto says she is running with the backing of Jackson and Cardwell but nobody seems to think she has got a chance. If Jackson and Cardwell were making any kind of effort wouldn;t she have a chance. People say that since she'll be off of the organization line with Kerry at the top Desoto is wasting everybody time her's included first. : : And what is going on with the Urban Times News, with no politics column worth spit in the Joiky Joinal you would think that Jackso would be ready to get on top. No they dump all there staff and shrink the paper down and get even get the layout straight and you again can;t read the thing with all words spelled wrong like it was before Glenn got their ball rolling for them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez to Quit ?? posted Message 4648 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 22:38:45 Subject: Here is the Story N.J. wannabes do dance of ambition Friday, July 30, 2004 CAMBRIDGE, Mass. - State Sen. John Adler is standing in Harvard Yard, describing famous occupants of the freshman dorms to about 100 politicians, union leaders, and other New Jersey Democrats who took up Adler's offer of a walking tour of his undergraduate alma mater and law school. "Over there was where Al Gore roomed with Tommy Lee Jones," Adler begins, moving on to the dorms of Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, and 2004 nominee John Kerry. "And over there is where E.E. Cmm ings, the poet, and John Adler, the wannabe, lived, at different times of course." Adler, a four-term legislator from Cherry Hill who is chairman of the powerful Senate Judiciary Committee, later describes the "wannabe" line as a throwaway joke, but it applies to him and a lot of other people in and around the New Jersey delegation these days. Outwardly, the dutiful Democrats feign confusion when asked about aspirations to be governor or U.S. senator. What do you mean, they ask, we already have Jim McGreevey, Jon Corzine, and Frank Lautenberg, and they're doing a great job. Then they move in close and try to make you hear over the din of the never-ending coc ktail parties why the guy with the best shot of being the next governor or senator is Adler, or Rep. Rob Andrews of Bellmawr, or Rep. Robert Menendez of Hoboken, or Rep. Frank Pallone of West Long Branch, or Rep. Bill Pascrell of Paterson, or Rep. Steve Rothman of Fair Lawn. The variables in these scenarios are the kinds that mathematicians win Nobel Prizes for devising. One overriding variable is who wins the White House in November, but the two possible answers only open numerous more possibilities. A Bush win could mean that U.S. Attorney Chris Christie stays out of the race for the Republican nomination for governor, which reduces the possibility that county bosses will want McGreevey out of the race as well, because the rest of the GOP field is not considered as threatening. Without an open governor's seat, attention then shifts to the Senate, which would increase pressure on the 80-year-old Lautenberg to let one of the younger guys move up the ladder. Lautenberg, who came out of retirement when the party called on him to fill in for Bob Torricelli in 2002, says he sees no reason why he might not seek another term in 2008. "The funny thing is all these people who are coming to see me and saying, 'I hope you live to be 120 and have a 60-year term.' Because implicit in that is a, 'I want you to know that just in case, God forbid, I would be willing to step in and serve the state of New Jersey,'Ÿ" Lautenberg said. "I'm not shy about saying 'You should do what you want,' but I caution their contributors: I may want their help, too. It depends how I feel. I have a nice option to call in three years." A Kerry win increases the potential for prosecutor Christie to run for governor, but it also means the White House has a host of high-profile jobs to offer Democratic wannabes, or to already-bes to create vacancies for wannabes. One scenario goes like this: Christie's entrance in the race somehow gets McGreevey out, either because of pressure from party bosses or some kind of offer from the Kerry team. Of course, that possibility is lessened somewhat since Kerry folks are still ticked off that McGreevey endorsed Howard Dean, but they might not be so ticked off that they want their first year in office to be marked by a Democratic loss in New Jersey. No one expects there to be a primary to oust McGreevey, but if he does somehow exit stage left, then Corzine is expected to emerge from the wings as the white knight governor. But Corzine may not want to leave Washington, especially if Democrats win back control of the Senate and he garners some powerful committee assignments. He may also join a Kerry administration as treasury secretary. First to be considered for a vacant Corzine seat would be Menendez, the third-ranking member of the House leadership who was widely expected to go for that seat when Lautenberg vacated it in 2000. He had almost $2.2 million in his campaign account on June 30, but for a member of the House to run for Senate, he has to give up a sure thing for the possibility of sudden unemployment. I heard scenarios this week that had Menendez deciding not to risk it, deciding he likes being in the House leadership too much to leave, or deciding he's so tired of being in the minority in Washington that he leaves politics altogether for some high-paying job in the private sector. Or maybe he joins the Kerry administration. Sense a theme developing here? There could be a big Democratic primary for senator, or for governor, in which case regional bases come into play. Counties might offer support for one their region's Senate candidate in exchange for future support for the other region's gubernatorial candidate. People close to Rothman, who had $1 million on hand June 30, point out that his district reaches into Democratic strongholds of Bergen, Passaic and Hudson counties, and he "has friends" in Essex. If he had the line in those counties, it would be hard for any primary opponent to capture the nomination. But Adler's stock shot up this year when most of the Democratic leadership lined up behind Dean and he stayed with Kerry. He's now got a federal fund-raising account that had $112,000 on June 30, but he says that's still a feat considering the speculative nature of the contributions. He's making many visits to party cliques all over New Jersey as a Kerry campaigner, which can help. Of course, Rothman has also been accepting invitations to talk in such locales as Cumberland County. If Kerry were in the White House and he wanted to thank Adler and asked the party to give him a Senate vacancy, would the bosses say no? Of course, Kerry could also make Adler the U.S. attorney to replace Christie. Former Gov. Brendan T. Byrne, a Harvard law school graduate who went along on Adler's walking tour earlier this week, said the state senator would be a strong contender for statewide office. "He's a clean politician from South Jersey, and that's saying something," Byrne said. But others in the delegation see him as a second-tier possibility, given the ambitions of other House members who have wanted to move up longer. Andrews, a familiar face to many in South Jersey because of his effective use of Philadelphia TV, has the second-biggest bankroll after Menendez, with $1.3 million as of June 30. Andrews, who lost the 1997 gubernatorial primary to McGreevey, caused a flurry during the winter when he said people were asking him to run against McGreevey and he would not rule it out. For now, he says he's focused on winning his House seat again. "If you spend too much time wanting to be something else, usually you don't get it, because you're not spending enough time doing what you're supposed to be doing," he said. But for many in New Jersey politics, plotting the next move is the only use of time that is worthwhile ***************** End Of Article ****************** The picture above is L HARVEY SMITH with all the students he BOINKED at D.H.S. posted Message 4649 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 01, 2004 at 23:45:56 Subject: CONDOMS DO WORK......BUT YOU HAVE TO USE THEM Oppps look at the baby ..."my boys still swim"....says Harvey to himself ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4650 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 05:33:02 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4651 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 09:02:08 Subject: I will bid $4,000 to hear Marc s tape. of Gaynor Does this guy realize what he has got?I hear its going to be played today at 12 OClock on this forum. Lucky us,we will be the first to hearit. Thanks ,Marc.You are a everyday hero in Jersey city Eyes now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So True! posted Message 4652 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 09:04:32 Subject: Re: Who shrunk the Reform Democrats Yes, What united the Cunningham faction was not the message of reform, but Glenn himself. Glenn was able to show he was a leader who could unite a group who usual didn't come out in Mayoral elections. He was able to successful capture those voters becuase of his background. Unfortately, there is none elese who can jump in a fill his shoes, nor will there be anybody. The minions around Glenn were there not because of his vision, but what table scrapes fell off his table. With his death, so went the reform as his posse went after the best political deals. Let's not foprget they also beat a very weak and wounded regular Democratic Party, which was trying to rebuild and had lost sight of what they were once about also. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ix-Nay posted Message 4653 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 09:20:30 Subject: Re: I will bid $4,000 to hear Marc s tape. of Gaynor : My Monopoly money is all counted andneatly stacked. Iwill thro in BoardWalk for good measure. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom NoBrainer posted Message 4654 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 09:31:16 Subject: Re: Get NJ -went will you be playing Marcs tape of Me : Enquiring mindless want to know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** O'Melia is a Tool posted Message 4655 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 09:57:57 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of July 26, 2004 This guy show, no one listens too, he rambles on about nothing and even gave his endorsement out to Manzo. O'Melia, you are on radio so learn something about being media, YOU NEVER GIVE AN ENDORSEMENT THIS EARLY BEFORE THE ELECTION. Now you have become a tool for Manzo! What a joke. Did McCann hold a gun to your head? ***************** End Of Article ****************** because he does whatever McCann says posted Message 4656 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 11:23:48 Subject: Manzo will bring back Mark Munley With Manzo as mayor the beat goes on! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4657 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 17:20:52 Subject: Bobby J working as a carpenter? One of out foreign correspondents (anything west of Secaucus is foreign to me) just sent in that Bobby J is working as a carpenter. Anybody else hear anything about this? ***************** End Of Article ****************** sad for Dems posted Message 4658 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 18:52:35 Subject: Re: Bobby J working as a carpenter? : One of out foreign correspondents (anything west of Secaucus is foreign to me) just sent in that Bobby J is working as a carpenter. : Anybody else hear anything about this? ::Yes it's true. He's helping to build the Democratic Party platform. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm getting sick to my stomach posted Message 4659 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 19:51:06 Subject: Please get rid of that picture HARVEY! HARVEY! HARVEY! All he has done is spread his name and that face all over the city. To what end? NO BODY LIKES YOU! THEY SEE YOU FOR THE PHONEY YOU ARE! Please Anthony, I know this forum is open to all, but this is the lowest, low ever. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4660 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 20:06:51 Subject: I'm waiting for the other candidates to send photos. I'm waiting for the other candidates to send photos. I'd hope to post a different photo every day. : HARVEY! HARVEY! HARVEY! : All he has done is spread his name and that face all over the city. To what end? NO BODY LIKES YOU! THEY SEE YOU FOR THE PHONEY YOU ARE! : Please Anthony, I know this forum is open to all, but this is the lowest, low ever. ***************** End Of Article ****************** bigfoot photo posted Message 4661 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 20:26:23 Subject: Re: Please get rid of that picture : HARVEY! HARVEY! HARVEY! IS THAT A BIGFOOT PHOTO ***************** End Of Article ****************** Way to Go Bobby J posted Message 4662 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 20:39:54 Subject: It's True - Putting Final Nails In Menendez Coffin : One of out foreign correspondents (anything west of Secaucus is foreign to me) just sent in that Bobby J is working as a carpenter. : Anybody else hear anything about this? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey is Bankrupting Jersey CIty posted Message 4663 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 02, 2004 at 22:29:17 Subject: Big Foot is Better Looking : : HARVEY! HARVEY! HARVEY! : : IS THAT A BIGFOOT PHOTO ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sammy K posted Message 4664 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 00:01:29 Subject: Re: Bobby J working as a carpenter? Yes, he is in the FBI witness protection program working as a Catpenter under the name Poopie Pants Dumbrowski the carpenter with the crooked ruler - according to the latest from paul Bryne. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 4665 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 07:01:31 Subject: Did i miss Marc Z -Tape? I hope not. GetNJ please call Marc and ask him what happened to the tape? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val ain't a Gal posted Message 4666 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 09:12:24 Subject: Re: Did i miss Marc Z -Tape? : Be patient Tom. Good things cometo those who wait. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 4667 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 13:44:34 Subject: TWO RONS BUONOCORE& MANZO RON MANZO IS NOT GOING TO HELP HIS BROTHER LOU. HE IS GOING TO BE FUNDING BUONOCORE WHO WILL BE ENDORSED BY SANDRA CUNNINGHAM VERY SHORTLY. RON BUONOCORE WILL NOW BE THE CANIDATE TO BEAT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 4668 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 15:57:00 Subject: REVEREND ALLEN THROWS HAT IN MAYOR RACE REVEREND ALLEN THROWS HAT IN MAYOR RACE Urban Times News July 30, 2004 - August 5, 2004 by Arnold W. Stovell The Reverend Edward Allen has announced he is running in the November special elections for mayor of Jersey City. He is currently challenging Acting Mayor, Council President L. Harvey Smith, Councilman-At-Large Jeremiah Healy and Assemblyman Louis Manzo who have previously made their candidacy official. The Reverend Allen is a former member of the Jersey City Board of Education. He holds advanced degrees from Saint Peter's College, Seton Hall University and the New York Theological Seminary. Reverend Allen is also the Senior Pastor of Philemon Missionary Baptist Church in Newark. He has been married for 27 years and has two children. In a statement released to the press, the Reverend Allen says, 'Mayor Cunningham was a respected leader and a good friend. His untimely death is a compelling force for me to answer the call for leadership of our great city. We cannot go back to the days of rogue politicians, but we must continue to move forward under the spirit of Mayor Cunningham's legacy.' The Urban Times News spoke with Reverend Allen. "Unfortunately since his passing, the changes that he made and the good that he worked for on behalf of the people of Jersey City have been turned backward. The County Clerk position has been relocated to Union City. The state senate seat has been relocated from Jersey City to Bayonne. The office of the mayor now has a successor who spent the last year on the City Council fighting to derail every proposal offered by the late Mayor. Our Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham had the integrity, and the reputation and the clear vision to help turn Jersey City from a distressed city to a blessed city. Glenn Cunningham was purifying the government of Jersey City for the people of Jersey City, but the same hypocritical leadership that now claims him as friend are the forces who blocked his appointments and stifled proposals made in the best interest of Jersey City. The most notable example of this was the bond deal to refinance the long-term and short-term debt of Jersey City. Cunningham offered a plan that was endorsed by Goldman Sachs; that would refinance the $375 million dollar debt and allow the city to stabilize property taxes for the next four years. It could have insured that there would be no downsizing of critical municipal services and prevented layoffs of municipal workers. Instead of approving the plan, they voted against it, thereby forcing the city's government to spend the budget surplus." Jersey City supporters at the time of this action perceived the City Council vote (7-2 against the bond proposal with Richardson and Lipski dissenting) as an attempt to tarnish Cunningham's reputation by driving him to actions that would be politically unpopular with voters. Council President Smith and Councilman Gaughan led opposition to the plan; Councilman-At-Large Healy added his vote to those against. "Jersey City faces $55 million in debt repayments that it can't meet without a tax increase," the Reverend continued. "They (the City Council) refused to refinance under Cunningham and caused this problem. Now they do not have the integrity to stand up and take responsibility for their actions." Reverend Allen, whose slogan is, "A Jersey City for the People and Not the Politicians" wants to ensure that residents do not bear the burden of a possible 25% property tax increase, which will undoubtedly force senior citizens out of their homes, create financial burdens for the working poor and hurt the city's most vulnerable population: our oldest and our youngest. Reverend Allen warns, "While driving the tax burden up, we would most likely become a gentrified city of where only the rich could afford to live. This jeopardizes every working class Jersey City resident." "In addition to restructuring our debt, we (Jersey City) need to be able to finance our schools when they are returned back to city control. The state froze our tax levy to $200 million at the time of the state school take-over. The school budget is now $700 million, leaving a $500,000 deficit, money that the city did not have to pay when the schools were under state control. When Cunningham was in the state Senate, he was working towards a solution, rallying support for the causes of Jersey City. With Joe Doria in the Senate seat, knowing that he is not raising Jersey City issues, we cannot trust him to provide the help we need like we could trust Glenn Cunningham. We don't know what Joe Doria will do." "We are not only in a fiscal crisis, but a crisis of leadership where our supposed representatives operate with motives of selfish ego. Case in point, the Acting Mayor's actions at the dedication of Ercel Webb Park. The late Mayor Cunningham worked with citizens to design that park. He worked to get the money for the park. But the Acting Mayor had the original plaque removed and replaced it with another that had his name on it. It is a clear example of how he wants to take the credit but is not willing to step up to the plate and do the work." "There is a lack of leadership in Jeremiah Healy. He has shown himself to be a follower. He has not distinguished himself from the other Council members. Lou Manzo is an example of ambition gone out of control. He is someone who was making deals to undermine Glenn Cunningham during his tenure. Jersey City can't afford the kind of leadership that will consider how they will look first and how Jersey citizens will suffer later." "We want to keep the dream of Glenn Cunningham alive; keep his vision for Jersey City alive. We need a leader who will stand up to the malfeasance of Hudson County. None of those men fit that category. I am proud to say that like Mayor Cunningham, I am unbossed and un-bought. I was a friend of Cunningham. We disagreed sometimes, but he trusted me to work with and help him, and to stand with him side-by-side to work for Jersey City. Glenn Cunningham understood that the preservation of our neighborhoods was the preservation of lives. That is why he worked to make communities of neighbors working together. He was not just concerned about Exchange Place or Journal Square. He was concerned about Martin Luther King and Ocean Ave. He was concerned about the people in all our neighborhoods, and tried to bring them together. What the Council members did not understand was that while they tried to hurt Cunningham they were actually hurting the people of Jersey City." During his bid to get on the ballot for the Democratic primaries, the Reverend Allen was not only outspoken about opponent Congressman Donald Payne, but his Congressional colleague, Congressman Robert Menendez. The Urban Times News questioned how the Reverend would respond to the longtime 10th district incumbent and National Convention delegate, as well as the ranking Hispanic and third most powerful Congressman. "I believe that the importance of Jersey City in the big political picture, towards the election of John Kerry, in the scope of New Jersey State politics, and the replacement of Frank Lautenberg offers an opportunity for me to find the high road in unifying the Democratic Party in Jersey City and in Hudson County. Mr. Menendez is running unopposed, so he will win. It will be necessary to work with Mr. Menendez and Mr. Payne. I think in the political sense, Edward Allen and Robert Menendez can agree to reduce the number of things they disagree about for the good of Jersey City. It is in his best interest too, to see a mayor elected that can bring Jersey City back from the brink of financial ruin. Jersey City is a large part of his district. If he aspires to the heights that his presence on the Democratic Convention podium suggests, to be a Cabinet member or Senator, it is not in his interests to have his consideration tarnished by his largest district being declared bankrupt. Mr. Menendez is a smart politician. I think after we sit down and he sees that I have a plan of vision with provisions for the restorationof fiscal responsibility, we will find common ground." "We have to keep our eyes open, our minds sharp, or we may wake up and find out we are heading down a road leading us back to a distressed-city designation with a state government takeover imminent, the same as what exists in Camden,' the Reverend added. These words are perhaps more prophetic than we may know. Sources within City Hall claim the Acting Mayor Council President may be seeking distressed city status. The supposed move would reduce Jersey City fiscal rating to the depressed levels before the Cunningham administration and provide state funds to temporarily fill budget deficits. ***************** End Of Article ****************** County spokesman struck dumb posted Message 4669 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 16:13:42 Subject: With clerk's office investigated, U.S. rejects Hudson documents With clerk's office investigated, U.S. rejects Hudson documents 8/3/2004, 3:35 p.m. ET By STEVE STRUNSKY The Associated Press NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — The U.S. Department of State has stopped accepting passport applications processed by the Hudson County clerk's office or birth certificates issued by the county as proof of citizenship, pending the outcome of an ongoing corruption investigation involving the sale of documents. "It's a highly unusual action," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said Tuesday during a briefing in Washington. "The investigation has developed facts indicating that we cannot rely on the accuracy of information on passport applications that were processed by the county clerk's office," Boucher said. Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in Newark, which is conducting the investigation jointly with the State Department, said the activity did not appear to be terror related. "It did not originate as a terrorism investigation, and there is no indication whatsoever of terrorist involvement," Drewniak said. No arrests have been made. County Clerk Javier E. Inclan scheduled a news conference Tuesday to discuss the situation, but later canceled it, saying a news release would be issued. Neither Inclan nor a spokesman for County Executive Tom DeGise returned calls to their offices on Tuesday. Boucher noted that residents of any county in New Jersey, including Hudson, can obtain official birth certificates from the state Bureau of Vital Statistics in Trenton, which the State Department would accept as proof of citizenship. Boucher also said there were many locations aside from the county clerk's office where passport applications could be obtained and submitted by Hudson residents. "We designate many post offices, clerks of court, public libraries, other state, county, township and municipal government offices to accept passport applications on our behalf," he said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** twice burnt posted Message 4670 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 16:31:43 Subject: Re: TWO RONS BUONOCORE& MANZO : RON MANZO IS NOT GOING TO HELP HIS BROTHER LOU. HE IS GOING TO BE FUNDING BUONOCORE WHO WILL BE ENDORSED BY SANDRA CUNNINGHAM VERY SHORTLY. : RON BUONOCORE WILL NOW BE THE CANIDATE TO BEAT. Buonocore is no threat. He blackmailed Gaughan to flip on getting rid of him as chief. He can't blackmail the entire electorate. He's raising money to throw to the candidate who can do him the most good. The Manzo/McCann crime family will most likely embrace his support, recognizing a kindred spirit. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Charlie Morris posted Message 4671 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 16:51:34 Subject: BUONOCORE for Mayor I thought you had to live and vote in Jersey City in order to be a Candidate for office in the city? Too bad, Ron lives in Sussex county, right between nice 2 golf courses. His address is: 15 Country Lane, Hamburgh NJ, but what's worse he voted out of this address last year. Transferring the house out of his name to his wife's recently will be his defense. but he still lives there. Looks like we are going to have a real fun legal challenge on our hands. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uncle Allen posted Message 4672 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 16:54:57 Subject: Re: REVEREND ALLEN THROWS HAT IN MAYOR RACE : REVEREND ALLEN THROWS HAT IN MAYOR RACE Another fringe Candidate joke ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Corruption Probe posted Message 4673 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 17:38:41 Subject: Chatokay - Splain this one.......... : With clerk's office investigated, U.S. rejects Hudson documents : 8/3/2004, 3:35 p.m. ET : By STEVE STRUNSKY : The Associated Press : NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — The U.S. Department of State has stopped accepting passport applications processed by the Hudson County clerk's office or birth certificates issued by the county as proof of citizenship, pending the outcome of an ongoing corruption investigation involving the sale of documents. : : "It's a highly unusual action," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said Tuesday during a briefing in Washington. : "The investigation has developed facts indicating that we cannot rely on the accuracy of information on passport applications that were processed by the county clerk's office," Boucher said. : Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in Newark, which is conducting the investigation jointly with the State Department, said the activity did not appear to be terror related. : "It did not originate as a terrorism investigation, and there is no indication whatsoever of terrorist involvement," Drewniak said. : No arrests have been made. : County Clerk Javier E. Inclan scheduled a news conference Tuesday to discuss the situation, but later canceled it, saying a news release would be issued. : Neither Inclan nor a spokesman for County Executive Tom DeGise returned calls to their offices on Tuesday. : Boucher noted that residents of any county in New Jersey, including Hudson, can obtain official birth certificates from the state Bureau of Vital Statistics in Trenton, which the State Department would accept as proof of citizenship. : Boucher also said there were many locations aside from the county clerk's office where passport applications could be obtained and submitted by Hudson residents. : "We designate many post offices, clerks of court, public libraries, other state, county, township and municipal government offices to accept passport applications on our behalf," he said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Corruption Probe posted Message 4673 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 17:38:42 Subject: Chatokay - Splain this one.......... : With clerk's office investigated, U.S. rejects Hudson documents : 8/3/2004, 3:35 p.m. ET : By STEVE STRUNSKY : The Associated Press : NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — The U.S. Department of State has stopped accepting passport applications processed by the Hudson County clerk's office or birth certificates issued by the county as proof of citizenship, pending the outcome of an ongoing corruption investigation involving the sale of documents. : : "It's a highly unusual action," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said Tuesday during a briefing in Washington. : "The investigation has developed facts indicating that we cannot rely on the accuracy of information on passport applications that were processed by the county clerk's office," Boucher said. : Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in Newark, which is conducting the investigation jointly with the State Department, said the activity did not appear to be terror related. : "It did not originate as a terrorism investigation, and there is no indication whatsoever of terrorist involvement," Drewniak said. : No arrests have been made. : County Clerk Javier E. Inclan scheduled a news conference Tuesday to discuss the situation, but later canceled it, saying a news release would be issued. : Neither Inclan nor a spokesman for County Executive Tom DeGise returned calls to their offices on Tuesday. : Boucher noted that residents of any county in New Jersey, including Hudson, can obtain official birth certificates from the state Bureau of Vital Statistics in Trenton, which the State Department would accept as proof of citizenship. : Boucher also said there were many locations aside from the county clerk's office where passport applications could be obtained and submitted by Hudson residents. : "We designate many post offices, clerks of court, public libraries, other state, county, township and municipal government offices to accept passport applications on our behalf," he said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4674 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 18:00:01 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of August 2, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tooltime posted Message 4675 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 19:36:15 Subject: Pat O'Melia's is a tool! He endorses Manzo this early on. All 6 of his listeners are blown away about his endorsement, but really who cares what Pat thinks or says! The bozo has not learned anything about being in the media, endorsement this early on, not to mention who he backs. McCann must have put a gun to his head. With his silly endorsement, he should go into hiding with Curtis Sliwua! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4676 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 20:15:00 Subject: Re: With clerk's office investigated, U.S. rejects Hudson documents Once the phony IDs all are tracked down, it'll be interesting to cross-reference that list with the voter registrations, political donors, petition signatures, etc. : With clerk's office investigated, U.S. rejects Hudson documents : 8/3/2004, 3:35 p.m. ET : By STEVE STRUNSKY : The Associated Press : NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — The U.S. Department of State has stopped accepting passport applications processed by the Hudson County clerk's office or birth certificates issued by the county as proof of citizenship, pending the outcome of an ongoing corruption investigation involving the sale of documents. : : "It's a highly unusual action," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said Tuesday during a briefing in Washington. : "The investigation has developed facts indicating that we cannot rely on the accuracy of information on passport applications that were processed by the county clerk's office," Boucher said. : Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in Newark, which is conducting the investigation jointly with the State Department, said the activity did not appear to be terror related. : "It did not originate as a terrorism investigation, and there is no indication whatsoever of terrorist involvement," Drewniak said. : No arrests have been made. : County Clerk Javier E. Inclan scheduled a news conference Tuesday to discuss the situation, but later canceled it, saying a news release would be issued. : Neither Inclan nor a spokesman for County Executive Tom DeGise returned calls to their offices on Tuesday. : Boucher noted that residents of any county in New Jersey, including Hudson, can obtain official birth certificates from the state Bureau of Vital Statistics in Trenton, which the State Department would accept as proof of citizenship. : Boucher also said there were many locations aside from the county clerk's office where passport applications could be obtained and submitted by Hudson residents. : "We designate many post offices, clerks of court, public libraries, other state, county, township and municipal government offices to accept passport applications on our behalf," he said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4677 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 03, 2004 at 21:41:06 Subject: Nothing to explain. Everybody knows that County government remains corrupt. And by the way, the name is CHAKOTAY !!! :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tooltimeless posted Message 4678 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 06:57:38 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's is a tool! You mention Pat in the same sentence with Curtis Sliwa, who has actually accomplished something? Curtis came back to the States this past weekend & has been on the air since Monday. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4679 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 07:21:50 Subject: Jersey city will some day be corruption Free Once the Jersey City voters wake up. Its your taxpayers money they are spending on their schemes ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom NoBrainer posted Message 4680 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 07:48:55 Subject: Re: Jersey city will some day be Tom Gaynor Free : Once the Jersey City wakes up. Until that day the good peopleof Jersey City must suffer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A thousand words posted Message 4681 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 08:06:16 Subject: A pictures worth Take a look at the above picture of Harvey, Anthony Cruz and 5 other people. With the exception of Harvey & Anthony and maybe the lady in the dotted shirt, no one is looking at the camera. You cant tell about the lady in the shades. These guys look like they would rather be somewhere else. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4682 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 10:46:04 Subject: I have the cure for Jersey City-Tom Gaynor He knows all the Conmen in town and they know he knows. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4683 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 10:56:16 Subject: Here's one case . . . Here's one case where the cure is definitely worse than the disease! : He knows all the Conmen in town and they know he knows. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nurse Betsy posted Message 4684 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 11:28:33 Subject: Uberhippy-Shall we start With You? i dont think you want to go there?Be very careful,there may be some things out there. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4685 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 11:51:51 Subject: Re: Uberhippy-Shall we start With You? : i dont think you want to go there?Be very careful,there may be some things out there. Some people in Hudson County can be proud how much distance they've put between themselves and the sewer. Others gotta worry about the filthy water risin' that one more drownin' inch. The fools don't gotta worry, though. They will always be with us. ***************** End Of Article ****************** G posted Message 4686 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 12:31:01 Subject: Re: BUONOCORE for Mayor Ron is a stand up guy and he may be the only one qualified for the job. HE IS A JERSEY CITY RESIDENT and will have a large war chest to compete with Healy, Manzo and Smith. He will also have help from Cardwell & Jackson and gang. God Bless Ron Buonocore ! : I thought you had to live and vote in Jersey City in order to be a Candidate for office in the city? : Too bad, Ron lives in Sussex county, right between nice 2 golf courses. : His address is: 15 Country Lane, Hamburgh NJ, but what's worse he voted out of this address last year. : Transferring the house out of his name to his wife's recently will be his defense. but he still lives there. : Looks like we are going to have a real fun legal challenge on our hands. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ix-Nay posted Message 4687 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 13:07:24 Subject: Re: I have the cure for Jersey City-Tom Gaynor : He knows all the Conmen in town and they know he knows. How does he know this? Well, it takes one to know one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4688 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 13:10:08 Subject: Re: Uberhippy-Shall we start With You? : i dont think you want to go there?Be very careful,wascally wabbits are lurking and may be some will come out there. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 4689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 14:44:02 Subject: ACTING MAYOR, ACTING FRIEND? ACTING MAYOR, ACTING FRIEND? Urban Times News July 30, 2004 - August 5, 2004 by Dana Osbourne "He's acting like he's already been elected," said a visitor who had just met with the Acting Mayor Council President, and requested to remain anonymous. "I just met with him, and if he thinks he can just smile in my face and say one thing while doing another, he'll find out! Folks don't forget!" At first, he quieted citizens with promises of "keeping order" in his actions as an acting mayor, now the president of the City Council has now grown more comfortable with lauding his own leadership and proclaiming his efforts to help Jersey citizens. As the local race for mayor heats up, other members of the City Council are also expected to throw their hat into the ring. Thus far only Councilman at Large Jeremiah Healy and Lou Manzo has announced his intentions to run. As the election year approaches, no perspective candidate is distancing himself from the pack more vigorously than Acting Mayor Council President L. Harvey Smith. In the minds of former Cunningham supporters this may not be the best thing. While the late Mayor was alive, the Acting Mayor was one of his most vocal opponents. Sources in the Reform Democrat party, the party ticket (led by Cunningham) under which Smith gained his seat on the City Council, point to an early rift in their relationship when Smith was passed over for Cunningham as the party candidate for mayor. As City Council President, this paper and others chronicled how Smith led efforts against many of the programs and policies that were championed by Cunningham. His disdain for Mayor Cunningham was no secret. His disrespect was so strong that Cunningham widow, Sandra Bolden Cunningham, banned Mr. Smith from attending the mayor's funeral. Recent fundraising ads in the Jersey Journal, however, position the Acting Mayor as a "friend to Glenn D. Cunningham". In the minds of most Jersey City residents nothing could be further from the truth. This publicity approach to reconciliation is rumored to be the brainchild of Acting Mayor Chief of Staff and public relations entrepreneur, Roger Jones. Sources at City Hall described the PR strategy as trying to "ease tensions in Jersey City, and put the past behind us". Such image positioning might be more worthwhile were it not for the present actions of the Acting Mayor: removing the plaque referring to Mayor Cunningham in the newly dedicated Webb Park and replacing it with a plaque featuring his own name for the opening ceremonies; storming voter registration efforts with police officers in order to stop the involvement of young people of color in the democratic process, and deceiving public housing tenants hopeful for a communicative, sympathetic Director at the JCHA, to name a few. And now purporting closeness to his beloved predecessor while everyone remotely close to the Cunningham knows it isn't true. When Jeremiah Healy announced his candidacy for the mayoral election, several members of the Hudson County Democratic Organization were reported to be there. While the acting mayor has made his intentions known, the Hudson County Democrats have not committed to supporting his candidacy. During the primary campaign for the congressional seat of the 13th district, Congressman Robert Menendez and Steven Fulop were campaigning at the Grove Street station. They got into a shouting match when the Congressman blurted at Fulop that he should be ashamed, campaigning on the name of a dead man. It meant nothing to the neophyte politician because he and everyone else knew that he ran with the full support of Glenn D. Cunningham. It now sounds like the Congressmen should be talking to the Acting Mayor. If Mr. Jones is the mastermind behind this stroke of bad idea gone worse, let us hope Mr. Smith is not paying a consulting fee. The point of public relations is to change opinions favorably, not raise more doubts in the minds of voters. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jones....just a wannabee posted Message 4690 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 15:43:16 Subject: Jones should leave the PR to the professionals Roger, Roger, Roger.....how could you stoop so low? How could you spin such a filthy lie and expect us to buy it? Roger, you have shamed yourself, and the people you call "your community". Glenn was a good man and Harvey is a slime. Glen reached out to the people and took their hand to help them up the ladder. Harvey climbed the ladder then set it on fire so noone could climb up behind him. And this is the scum you speak for, lie for and spin for. You are worse than our "ACTOR" Mayor....because you know he's nothing more than a self-serving, self-absorbed political hack. And if you can't see that....you are either are in denial or you are just a sellout. Either way you have injured your community and we will not forget in November. As for you Harvey.....GO TO HE11. : ACTING MAYOR, ACTING FRIEND? : Urban Times News : July 30, 2004 - August 5, 2004 : by Dana Osbourne : "He's acting like he's already been elected," said a visitor who had just met with the Acting Mayor Council President, and requested to remain anonymous. "I just met with him, and if he thinks he can just smile in my face and say one thing while doing another, he'll find out! Folks don't forget!" : At first, he quieted citizens with promises of "keeping order" in his actions as an acting mayor, now the president of the City Council has now grown more comfortable with lauding his own leadership and proclaiming his efforts to help Jersey citizens. As the local race for mayor heats up, other members of the City Council are also expected to throw their hat into the ring. Thus far only Councilman at Large Jeremiah Healy and Lou Manzo has announced his intentions to run. As the election year approaches, no perspective candidate is distancing himself from the pack more vigorously than Acting Mayor Council President L. Harvey Smith. In the minds of former Cunningham supporters this may not be the best thing. : While the late Mayor was alive, the Acting Mayor was one of his most vocal opponents. Sources in the Reform Democrat party, the party ticket (led by Cunningham) under which Smith gained his seat on the City Council, point to an early rift in their relationship when Smith was passed over for Cunningham as the party candidate for mayor. As City Council President, this paper and others chronicled how Smith led efforts against many of the programs and policies that were championed by Cunningham. His disdain for Mayor Cunningham was no secret. His disrespect was so strong that Cunningham widow, Sandra Bolden Cunningham, banned Mr. Smith from attending the mayor's funeral. Recent fundraising ads in the Jersey Journal, however, position the Acting Mayor as a "friend to Glenn D. Cunningham". In the minds of most Jersey City residents nothing could be further from the truth. : This publicity approach to reconciliation is rumored to be the brainchild of Acting Mayor Chief of Staff and public relations entrepreneur, Roger Jones. Sources at City Hall described the PR strategy as trying to "ease tensions in Jersey City, and put the past behind us". Such image positioning might be more worthwhile were it not for the present actions of the Acting Mayor: removing the plaque referring to Mayor Cunningham in the newly dedicated Webb Park and replacing it with a plaque featuring his own name for the opening ceremonies; storming voter registration efforts with police officers in order to stop the involvement of young people of color in the democratic process, and deceiving public housing tenants hopeful for a communicative, sympathetic Director at the JCHA, to name a few. And now purporting closeness to his beloved predecessor while everyone remotely close to the Cunningham knows it isn't true. : When Jeremiah Healy announced his candidacy for the mayoral election, several members of the Hudson County Democratic Organization were reported to be there. While the acting mayor has made his intentions known, the Hudson County Democrats have not committed to supporting his candidacy. : During the primary campaign for the congressional seat of the 13th district, Congressman Robert Menendez and Steven Fulop were campaigning at the Grove Street station. They got into a shouting match when the Congressman blurted at Fulop that he should be ashamed, campaigning on the name of a dead man. It meant nothing to the neophyte politician because he and everyone else knew that he ran with the full support of Glenn D. Cunningham. It now sounds like the Congressmen should be talking to the Acting Mayor. If Mr. Jones is the mastermind behind this stroke of bad idea gone worse, let us hope Mr. Smith is not paying a consulting fee. The point of public relations is to change opinions favorably, not raise more doubts in the minds of voters. ***************** End Of Article ****************** had enough of bs from harvey posted Message 4691 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 19:52:37 Subject: Re: Jones should leave the PR to the professionals Harvey Smith will cross a bridge and than when he reaches the other side, he double cross the bridge. harvey has hired most hispanics and not reaching out to all others on november 2 I have 4 WORDS FOR YOU!! GO f@#% your self ***************** End Of Article ****************** nostro posted Message 4692 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 20:05:40 Subject: Re: Here's one case . . . : Here's one case where the cure is definitely worse than the disease! : : He knows all the Conmen in town and they know he knows. we should be getting together and clean up the mess in city hall. vote nov 2 for Lou Manzo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Charlie Morris posted Message 4693 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 20:06:06 Subject: Re: BUONOCORE for Mayor Stand up guy? We must be confusing our Rons. Buonocore - the guy who casts his lot with who is winning this week. He's the bat in the fabled story of the battle of the birds and the mammals. When the birds are winning, he joins forces and tells the birds he is actually a bird and is with them, when the tide turns and the mammals are winning, he flies up and tells the mammals he really is a mammal. What are you today Ron? Maybe Ron can do a poll about a Chief who lives out of town, drained our Union dry and see what the people think about you. Now he going to pull out all that union money and do a poll about himself. PLEASE, LIVE IN JERSEY CITY before you run. Can't wait for him to step up, he's going to open a big closet of skeletons and be embarrassed. Do us all a favor, make your deal now or be embarrassed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The office looks likes dark to me. so, what u takin bout' willis posted Message 4694 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 21:01:35 Subject: Re: Jones should leave the PR to the professionals : Harvey Smith will cross a bridge and than when he reaches the other side, he double cross the bridge. : harvey has hired most hispanics and not reaching out to all others : on november 2 I have 4 WORDS FOR YOU!! : GO f@#% your self ***************** End Of Article ****************** The office looks likes dark to me. so, what u takin bout' willis posted Message 4695 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 21:01:40 Subject: Re: Jones should leave the PR to the professionals : Harvey Smith will cross a bridge and than when he reaches the other side, he double cross the bridge. : harvey has hired most hispanics and not reaching out to all others : on november 2 I have 4 WORDS FOR YOU!! : GO f@#% your self ***************** End Of Article ****************** Expoze Jonez posted Message 4696 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2004 at 21:07:53 Subject: Re: Jones should leave the PR to the professionals Harvey has no accomplishments to claim. He's the only one to blame. So now his mouthpiece is trying to steal a dead man's name. That's how low-life trash chooses to play the game. This crew just brings us more and more shame. : Roger, Roger, Roger.....how could you stoop so low? How could you spin such a filthy lie and expect us to buy it? Roger, you have shamed yourself, and the people you call "your community". Glenn was a good man and Harvey is a slime. Glen reached out to the people and took their hand to help them up the ladder. Harvey climbed the ladder then set it on fire so noone could climb up behind him. And this is the scum you speak for, lie for and spin for. You are worse than our "ACTOR" Mayor....because you know he's nothing more than a self-serving, self-absorbed political hack. And if you can't see that....you are either are in denial or you are just a sellout. Either way you have injured your community and we will not forget in November. : As for you Harvey.....GO TO HE11. : : ACTING MAYOR, ACTING FRIEND? : : Urban Times News : : July 30, 2004 - August 5, 2004 : : by Dana Osbourne : : "He's acting like he's already been elected," said a visitor who had just met with the Acting Mayor Council President, and requested to remain anonymous. "I just met with him, and if he thinks he can just smile in my face and say one thing while doing another, he'll find out! Folks don't forget!" : : At first, he quieted citizens with promises of "keeping order" in his actions as an acting mayor, now the president of the City Council has now grown more comfortable with lauding his own leadership and proclaiming his efforts to help Jersey citizens. As the local race for mayor heats up, other members of the City Council are also expected to throw their hat into the ring. Thus far only Councilman at Large Jeremiah Healy and Lou Manzo has announced his intentions to run. As the election year approaches, no perspective candidate is distancing himself from the pack more vigorously than Acting Mayor Council President L. Harvey Smith. In the minds of former Cunningham supporters this may not be the best thing. : : While the late Mayor was alive, the Acting Mayor was one of his most vocal opponents. Sources in the Reform Democrat party, the party ticket (led by Cunningham) under which Smith gained his seat on the City Council, point to an early rift in their relationship when Smith was passed over for Cunningham as the party candidate for mayor. As City Council President, this paper and others chronicled how Smith led efforts against many of the programs and policies that were championed by Cunningham. His disdain for Mayor Cunningham was no secret. His disrespect was so strong that Cunningham widow, Sandra Bolden Cunningham, banned Mr. Smith from attending the mayor's funeral. Recent fundraising ads in the Jersey Journal, however, position the Acting Mayor as a "friend to Glenn D. Cunningham". In the minds of most Jersey City residents nothing could be further from the truth. : : This publicity approach to reconciliation is rumored to be the brainchild of Acting Mayor Chief of Staff and public relations entrepreneur, Roger Jones. Sources at City Hall described the PR strategy as trying to "ease tensions in Jersey City, and put the past behind us". Such image positioning might be more worthwhile were it not for the present actions of the Acting Mayor: removing the plaque referring to Mayor Cunningham in the newly dedicated Webb Park and replacing it with a plaque featuring his own name for the opening ceremonies; storming voter registration efforts with police officers in order to stop the involvement of young people of color in the democratic process, and deceiving public housing tenants hopeful for a communicative, sympathetic Director at the JCHA, to name a few. And now purporting closeness to his beloved predecessor while everyone remotely close to the Cunningham knows it isn't true. : : When Jeremiah Healy announced his candidacy for the mayoral election, several members of the Hudson County Democratic Organization were reported to be there. While the acting mayor has made his intentions known, the Hudson County Democrats have not committed to supporting his candidacy. : : During the primary campaign for the congressional seat of the 13th district, Congressman Robert Menendez and Steven Fulop were campaigning at the Grove Street station. They got into a shouting match when the Congressman blurted at Fulop that he should be ashamed, campaigning on the name of a dead man. It meant nothing to the neophyte politician because he and everyone else knew that he ran with the full support of Glenn D. Cunningham. It now sounds like the Congressmen should be talking to the Acting Mayor. If Mr. Jones is the mastermind behind this stroke of bad idea gone worse, let us hope Mr. Smith is not paying a consulting fee. The point of public relations is to change opinions favorably, not raise more doubts in the minds of voters. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Run Ron Run....AWAY posted Message 4697 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2004 at 10:33:05 Subject: Re: BUONOCORE for Mayor Even considering this guy for Mayor is a joke. He has no spine and is more of a flip flop than just about any pol in JC. So what do you stand for besides your own wallet Ron? Why are you running other than to get your hands on the patronage pot in JC? What have you done for us so that we should vote for you? Its really pathetic when a guy like this can be seriously considered for the highest elected office in this town. But then again.... look at the circus of clowns we've had over the years. I've been told his only reason for running is to raise money which he will then put into a PAC so he can be a "player" and preserve his own place in whatever administration actually gets into office. Sounds like a reasonable explaination to me. : Stand up guy? We must be confusing our Rons. : Buonocore - the guy who casts his lot with who is winning this week. : He's the bat in the fabled story of the battle of the birds and the mammals. : When the birds are winning, he joins forces and tells the birds he is actually a bird and is with them, when the tide turns and the mammals are winning, he flies up and tells the mammals he really is a mammal. What are you today Ron? : Maybe Ron can do a poll about a Chief who lives out of town, drained our Union dry and see what the people think about you. : Now he going to pull out all that union money and do a poll about himself. PLEASE, LIVE IN JERSEY CITY before you run. : Can't wait for him to step up, he's going to open a big closet of skeletons and be embarrassed. : Do us all a favor, make your deal now or be embarrassed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CAN YOU HEAR US KNOW? posted Message 4698 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2004 at 10:48:04 Subject: TO : L HARVEY SMTH ANTHONY CRUZE IN..WE'RE OUT! TAKE YOUR PICK. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CAN YOU HEAR US NOW ! posted Message 4699 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2004 at 10:50:07 Subject: Re: TO : L HARVEY SMTH : ANTHONY CRUZE IN..WE'RE OUT! TAKE YOUR PICK. ***************** End Of Article ****************** G posted Message 4700 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2004 at 13:01:58 Subject: God Bless Ron Bunocore We all love you Ron... Get Jersey City back on track ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BS posted Message 4701 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2004 at 13:19:57 Subject: God Bless Ron Bunocore You people are delusional, sick, or well paid. But any way you look at it, RonBon is nothing but a money-grubbing opportunist. Kind of reminds me of Schundler. : We all love you Ron... : Get Jersey City back on track ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** G posted Message 4702 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2004 at 13:28:58 Subject: Re: God Bless Ron Bunocore Better get on board before it's too late. Some names already in this camp : Sandra Cunningham, Cardwell, Jackson, Gene Drayton, Ron Manzo (Lou's brother), Steve Lipski and Jimmy King. God Bless Ron ! : You people are delusional, sick, or well paid. But any way you look at it, RonBon is nothing but a money-grubbing opportunist. Kind of reminds me of Schundler. : : We all love you Ron... : : Get Jersey City back on track ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** fbone posted Message 4703 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2004 at 15:34:42 Subject: Re: God Bless Ron Bunocore : Better get on board before it's too late. Some names already in this camp : Sandra Cunningham, Cardwell, Jackson, Gene Drayton, Ron Manzo (Lou's brother), Steve Lipski and Jimmy King. : God Bless Ron ! : : : You people are delusional, sick, or well paid. But any way you look at it, RonBon is nothing but a money-grubbing opportunist. Kind of reminds me of Schundler. : : : We all love you Ron... : : : Get Jersey City back on track ! :::that list reads more like the 10 most wanted than a group of political hacks. Even for JC, Hudson County it's a shameful list of self-preserving, unemployable scoundrels who have no interest is serving the overtaxed citizens of this unfortunate city. By year's end, one will be in jail, others will be indicted and squealing. Still others will be filling out the first resumes of their adult lives. This area is so inured to corruption and the brotherhood of cronies and incompetents that a line-up like that makes sense to some. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Disappointed posted Message 4704 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 05, 2004 at 17:49:58 Subject: Can't we do better than this? We have nearly a quarter million people in this great city. We have corporations with true professionals in everything from finance to high tech. We have a waterfront business community that rivals just about any other city of our size. We have thousands of new residents in luxury towers on the waterfront. But we have the same old recycled political trash running for office over and over again. I just can't believe that we can't do better than this. People....come on....Ron Bonocoure!?!? Give me a break. Do you people know this guy's history? Its amazing he's not in jail, much less carrying the title of former Chief of Police. Someone put him on the wrong side of that equation. Its time we set aside alliances, political debts, and other considerations and instead looked for someone who is honest, experienced, and dedicated to our community....not themselves. Aren't you tired of seeing the same people ripping off our city? Isn't it time we actually DO a real search for candidates? How about a Community Action Committee of REAL community-minded people...not those hacks that like to hear themselves blather on at Council meetings.....but real community-minded people who can screen potential candidates before the ball gets rolling? How about a coalition of community groups to do a little homework and recruit people to run for office who actually HAVE jobs and are just looking to contribute their skills and experience to the benefit of their city? Don't we deserve a process that brings talented people to the attention of the community? Don't we deserve a process that allows level-headed people who may not have a few million in the bank (like good ole Bret) to run for office? We just need something better than what we have now. If we fail to renew and reform this process, we will continue to suffer through the same political garbage we have had in the past. Come on people.....we can do better than this!!! Let's get the ball rolling and we can change our city and perhaps restore respect to the office of Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Maybe we can posted Message 4705 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2004 at 06:52:14 Subject: Re: Can't we do better than this? Jim Carroll supposed to be announcing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4706 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2004 at 08:49:12 Subject: Philadelphia Inquirer: Is this the capital of corruption? Is this the capital of corruption? Hudson County is trying to buck a long trend. Philadelphia Inquirer 08/04/04 By Robert Moran Inquirer Trenton Bureau WEST NEW YORK, N.J. - Hudson County has a booming waterfront, a vibrant immigrant community, and a spectacular view of the Manhattan skyline from the palisade overlooking the Hudson River. Hudson County also has a problem with misbehaving public servants. Of 55 significant corruption cases pursued by federal prosecutors in New Jersey during the last three years, 17 - nearly one-third - originated in Hudson County, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office in Newark. Now being deliberated by a federal jury is the fraud and extortion case of Rene Abreu, a former fund-raiser for West New York Mayor Albio Sires, who is also speaker of the state Assembly. Sires has not been charged. The case emerged from a massive police-corruption scandal that exploded in West New York in the late 1990s and that prosecutors consider the worst in New Jersey's history. "It's almost expected that our public officials will be corrupt," said Richard Rivera, a former police officer who blew the whistle on corrupt officers in West New York. In the most densely populated state, Hudson County is the rock-solid core, with more than 13,000 people per square mile. And in a state notorious for corruption, Hudson is the most notorious county. There have been two guilty pleas this summer related to the case of former County Executive Robert C. Janiszewski, who pleaded guilty in late 2002 to accepting bribes. A county freeholder also was sent to prison in the case. In an unrelated case, Freeholder William C. Braker pleaded guilty in June to a charge of attempted extortion by an official. He had been accused of demanding cash and V1agra from a county vendor. On June 14, a contractor was sentenced to prison for his role in a corruption case involving several top officials in North Bergen, including the township administrator, who was also sent to prison. A former mayor of Guttenberg pleaded guilty last year to a tax charge involving his personal use of campaign funds. The trial of a former mayor of Hoboken charged with bribery is set for September. So what is it about Hudson County that breeds so much official wrongdoing? U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie said he believes the county suffers from a "culture of corruption" that has roots going back decades. "It almost has become part of the institutions, no matter who the individual players are," he said. "They watch everyone else take bribes and illegal campaign contributions, and when they finally graduate into positions of power, they believe it's just their turn - their turn to cash in," Christie said. That culture was personified by "Boss" Frank Hague, mayor of Jersey City from 1917 to 1947 and head of a Democratic political machine that dominated New Jersey politics. Hague reportedly never made more than $8,000 a year as mayor, but he died leaving an estate worth millions. David Rebovich, a political analyst at Rider University in Lawrenceville, suggested that one-party rule had encouraged ethical abuses. "The odds of corruption occurring seem to increase when you have one-party rule for a long time," he said. "The Democrats have ruled Hudson County forever." Republican Bret Schundler bucked the trend when he became mayor of Jersey City in 1992 after the previous elected mayor, Democrat Gerald McCann, was sent to prison after being convicted of fraud charges. "What leads to the corruption is you have unaccountable power," said Schundler, who was mayor until 2001, when he unsuccessfully ran for governor. "The lack of accountability that produces corruption remains." The Democrats are still in charge, and they disagree that their overwhelming control of the county is the problem. State Sen. Bernard F. Kenny Jr., chair of the county Democrats, said most public officials in Hudson County were honorable public servants. What corruption there has been, he said, was the result of "poor choices by a few individuals in power." But after several years of relentlessly humiliating publicity about the corruption cases, Democrats are trying to clean house. Janiszewski's replacement, Thomas A. DeGise, campaigned for ethics changes and has implemented several, including ethics training for county officials. As part of the training, the officials - mainly managers and lawyers - were encouraged to vent about "what it was like to be made fun of when you told people you worked for Hudson County," county spokesman Jim Kennelly said. As for regaining public trust, Kennelly acknowledged that there were no quick fixes. "The way you do it is to build a record over time," he said. When all the criminal cases wind down, he said, "the onus will be on us to do the right thing." Meanwhile, a federal jury is deliberating the Abreu case. The West New York police scandal involved officers accused of taking payoffs to protect gambling and prostitution operations. More than two dozen officers and residents, including the police chief, were convicted or pleaded guilty. The chief, Alexander Oriente, testified in court that he had routinely collected payoffs from organized crime. He also testified that he had paid $2,000 a week from the payoff money to Abreu, a confidant of and fund-raiser for Sires, who was elected mayor in 1995. Oriente testified that he believed some of the money was intended for Sires. Sires and Abreu have repeatedly denied the allegation. Sires, through a spokesman, declined to discuss the case. Rivera, the former officer who tipped off federal authorities a decade ago, is watching the trial closely. He now spends his days as a political agitator and muckraker in West New York. Rivera ran for sheriff this year and got crushed - 31,520 to 6,240 - in the primary by the incumbent, Joseph Cassidy, who was backed by the county Democrats. But Rivera is not giving up. Ten years after he made a fateful decision to expose corruption, he said, "I'm not finished. My work's not done." ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4707 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2004 at 08:57:25 Subject: Abreu Conviction, U.S. Attorney's Office Press Release 08-04-2004 -- Abreu, Rene, et al. -- Convictions -- News Release Hudson County Businessman Rene Abreu, Co-Defendants Convicted of Bank and Real Estate Frauds NEWARK - Hudson County businessman Rene Abreu was convicted today by a jury of 20 of 28 counts against him for running a series of real estate and bank fraud schemes that enriched him and his companies and involved numerous of his employees, U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie announced. The jury also convicted Abreu employees Ana Martell, Kathy Giunta, and Fernando Jimenez, all of North Bergen, and Luis Nieves, of Leonia, a senior vice president with Hudson United Bank. The jury returned acquittals on some charges, including seven counts against Abreu, and deadlocked on an extortion count in which Abreu was the only person charged. That count alleged that Abreu received regular payoffs from West New York police protection of prostitution and gambling. "The verdict represents another victory for the people of Hudson County," Christie said. "Mr. Abreu committed massive fraud and infected the political process. His elimination from the public scene in Hudson County is positive for all its citizens." "As I have said repeatedly, this office brings cases for only one reason - because we believe those charged have committed the crimes and that we will be able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt," Christie said. "These verdicts are further proof of that principle. Despite the protestations and hyperbole from the defendants' lawyers, the jury agreed that these defendants were guilty and now will go to jail." The jury began deliberating July 27, and today was their seventh day of deliberations. Opening arguments in the trial began April 6. The case was prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Deborah Goldklang, Thomas Eicher and Matthew Boxer. No sentencing date was set by U.S. District Judge Joseph A. Greenaway, Jr., who heard the case. Abreu faces a possible sentencing range of between 78 and 97 months under U.S. Sentencing Guidelines. The other defendants face potential prison sentences ranging from approximately two to five years. Certain findings to be made by Judge Greenaway will determine the specific sentences. Another factor is a recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling, in which the Court questioned whether the Sentencing Guidelines are a constitutional means for determining sentences. The 29-count Indictment against the defendants charged multiple conspiracies including mail fraud, extortion and cash structuring in excess of $2 million, as well as several bank fraud schemes, money laundering, bribery of bank officials and more. Counts One and Two of the Indictment charged Abreu, Martell, Giunta, Jimenez, Nieves and others with conspiring to commit mail fraud, in that Abreu and other employees and associates of The Mortgage Pros, Inc. fraudulently submitted fictitious loan-related documents to several financial institutions, to induce the institutions to issue residential and commercial loans to clients of The Mortgage Pros. Counts Three through 12 of the Indictment charged specific acts of mail fraud affecting financial institutions, engaged in by Abreu, Jimenez, Giunta, Martell and others. Count 14 charged Abreu, Martell (an employee of The Mortgage Pros, Inc. and chief financial officer of the Abreu real estate company RLA Homes), and Nieves with conspiring to defraud Hudson United Bank, by engaging in a fraudulent check-kiting scheme. In the scheme, they continuously drew checks - often in the hundreds of thousands of dollars - on Abreu's several commercial bank accounts with insufficient funds at Hudson United and credited other of Abreu's accounts with these seemingly bona fide checks, in order to pay the business and personal expenses of Abreu and others. Frequently, Abreu's commercial and personal accounts had overdrafts of more than $1 million. Count 17 charged that Abreu conspired to extort money for the protection of illegal gambling, in that Abreu demanded and accepted from Alexander V. Oriente, the former chief of police in West New York, bribe and protection money from the proceeds of the video gambling business of Boardwalk Amusements, a business in West New York. Count 18 charged Abreu, Martell, Giunta and others with conspiring to structure currency transactions, by causing in excess of two million dollars to be deposited into accounts at Hudson United Bank and other financial institutions in amounts of less than $10,000, to avoid the filing of currency transaction reports by the financial institutions, as required by law. Counts 19 through 42 also charged Abreu, Martell, Giunta and others with specific acts of structuring currency transactions. Abreu was found guilty on Counts One through Nine, Twelve, Fourteen, Eighteen through Twenty-Four, Twenty-Eight, Twenty-Nine, and Thirty-Two. Abreu was acquitted of Counts Ten, Thirteen, Thirty, Thirty-One, Thirty-two, Thirty-five, Thirty-Six, and Forty-Two. Martell was found guilty of Count One and Two; Counts Five and Six, Fourteen and Eighteen and Counts Twenty through Twenty-three and Twenty-eight. Martel was acquitted of Count Thirteen and Thirty-six. Giunta was convicted of Count One and Two, Counts Five through Eight, Count Twelve, Eighteen, Twenty, Twenty-two, Twenty-three and Twenty-eight. Giunta was acquitted of Count Four. Jimenez was convicted of Count One and Count Four, while Nieves was found guilty of Count One and acquitted of Count Two and Sixteen. Christie credited Special Agents of the FBI, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Joseph Billy Jr.; and Special Agents of the IRS Criminal Investigation section, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Patricia J. Haynes, with the successful investigation of the defendants. -end- ***************** End Of Article ****************** raze rapscallions posted Message 4708 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2004 at 09:44:31 Subject: Re: God Bless Ron Bunocore : We all love you Ron... : Get Jersey City back on track ! ::does anyone know what Buonocore has on Gaughan? ***************** End Of Article ****************** sojourner for truth posted Message 4709 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2004 at 10:05:29 Subject: Re: God Bless Ron Bunocore : : Better get on board before it's too late. Some names already in this camp : Sandra Cunningham, Cardwell, Jackson, Gene Drayton, Ron Manzo (Lou's brother), Steve Lipski and Jimmy King. : : God Bless Ron ! : : : : : You people are delusional, sick, or well paid. But any way you look at it, RonBon is nothing but a money-grubbing opportunist. Kind of reminds me of Schundler. : : : : We all love you Ron... : : : : Get Jersey City back on track ! : :::that list reads more like the 10 most wanted than a group of political hacks. Even for JC, Hudson County it's a shameful list of self-preserving, unemployable scoundrels who have no interest is serving the overtaxed citizens of this unfortunate city. By year's end, one will be in jail, others will be indicted and squealing. Still others will be filling out the first resumes of their adult lives. This area is so inured to corruption and the brotherhood of cronies and incompetents that a line-up like that makes sense to some. ;;;sounds about right but the list left off the alpha male of the hyena pack, the already-convicted, imprisoned and released McCann. None are so blind as those who will not see. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr X-Ray posted Message 4710 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2004 at 15:31:15 Subject: Only one cure for Jersey City and that is Tom Gaynor All the "gofers" will have to get real jobs and work will become a way of life for them.Taxpayers will be free of them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Nick Riviera posted Message 4711 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2004 at 21:40:29 Subject: One cure for this board ... Ban the mention of the nitwit Tom Gaynor and all his dimwitted pals. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 4712 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2004 at 21:45:38 Subject: Ron doesn't need it. Buonocore doesn't need God's blessing. He's got more money than God does !!! Thanks to the hardworking taxpayers of Jersey City and Saint Glenn. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inspector Clouseau posted Message 4713 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2004 at 21:48:12 Subject: Plus ... I wanna know what Buonocore had on Cunningham to get all that dough. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Warden posted Message 4714 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2004 at 21:51:49 Subject: Does Ron Manzo ... Still get to vote ? Or use his ill-gotten gains ? He's due in our cell block any time now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr Ix-Nay posted Message 4715 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 06, 2004 at 23:55:47 Subject: Re: Only one cure for Tom Gaynor : All the "gofers" and Taxpayers will have to get real and lern how to operate an electrocal shock machine or perform frontal lobotomies so Tom can geet his much needed treetment and operation. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Toadie Fields posted Message 4716 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 07, 2004 at 14:20:55 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's is a Fool! Pat may not be the biggest nitwit I've ever met but he's in the top three. And his ego is only surpassed by the size of his gut. Lou, do yourself a favor and distance yourself from this loser and McCann too. They'll lose you more votes then they'll ever get you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TAXPAYER posted Message 4717 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 08, 2004 at 13:40:36 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's is a Fool! : : Pat may not be the biggest nitwit I've ever met but he's in the top three. And his ego is only surpassed by the size of his gut. Lou, do yourself a favor and distance yourself from this loser and McCann too. They'll lose you more votes then they'll ever get you. UNDER THIS GREAT NATION, HE ( PAT) SHOULD HAVE THE LIBERTY TO SUPPORT ANY CANDIDATE HE WISHES. I WILL SUPPORT LOU MANZO TOO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joseph McCarthy posted Message 4718 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2004 at 06:56:38 Subject: Words that should be banned from this board "Tom Gaynor"; "Nancy Gaynor"; "Avon by the Sea"; "Sandcastles"; "Butterfly Nets"; "Betsy"; "Wetsy" I'm sure the rest of you can think of others. Feel free to add to this list. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yup posted Message 4719 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2004 at 17:27:49 Subject: Re: Words that should be banned from this board Would be a nice change not to have to ready Gaynor's rantings and ravings : "Tom Gaynor"; "Nancy Gaynor"; "Avon by the Sea"; "Sandcastles"; "Butterfly Nets"; "Betsy"; "Wetsy" : I'm sure the rest of you can think of others. Feel free to add to this list. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yahoo posted Message 4720 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2004 at 17:42:26 Subject: Manzo - A Leader or a Loser? Why is Lou Manzo running for Mayor AGAIN!?! Hasn't he figured out that we don't want him to run our city? He only got his Assembly seat cause Cunningham handed it to him. He has never won a citywide office on his own. He has no platform. He just talks a lot and does nothin. Why is Manzo running again? He's been shoved aside something like 4 times by the voters in our town, but he won't go away. Doesn't Manzo know as Mayor he can't pardon his crooked brother....only a Governor can do that. Maybe he thinks if he wins and he gets friendly with the Governor maybe he can push him to pardon his brother. Maybe that's it. We need someone honest and someone who can talk about something other than cromium. (I know I spelled that wrong). I am just tired of going to vote and havin to decide which person will hurt our city less. But I know Lou Manzo is not a leader we should vote for. Its time for him to just go away. Maybe Belmar would be a better place for him. He will lose in his Assembly race next time around, so why make him Mayor? We have so many people here. Can't we get better people to run for office? I wish someone would try...cause I am tired of the choices we've got now. Manzo - A Leader or a Loser? I say Loser. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another Tool posted Message 4721 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2004 at 18:27:15 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's is a Fool! : : : : Pat may not be the biggest nitwit I've ever met but he's in the top three. And his ego is only surpassed by the size of his gut. Lou, do yourself a favor and distance yourself from this loser and McCann too. They'll lose you more votes then they'll ever get you. : UNDER THIS GREAT NATION, HE ( PAT) SHOULD HAVE THE LIBERTY TO SUPPORT ANY CANDIDATE HE WISHES. I WILL SUPPORT LOU MANZO TOO. You too my friend are another tool! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Josepha McCarthy posted Message 4722 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2004 at 19:35:40 Subject: Re: Words that should be banned from this board :: Joseph McCarthy : "Tom Gaynor"; "Nancy Gaynor"; "Avon by the Sea"; "Sandcastles"; "Butterfly Nets"; "Betsy"; "Wetsy" : I'm sure the rest of you can think of others. Feel free to add to this list. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Newport Lady posted Message 4723 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2004 at 22:41:55 Subject: Re: Manzo - A Leader or a Loser? Ouch...it looks like Louie has some work to do to win over Mr/Ms Yahoo. But...point well taken about re-run candidates. Seems like the same ole thing again and again. Gee.. I always hated leftovers as a kid. ;) : : Why is Lou Manzo running for Mayor AGAIN!?! Hasn't he figured out that we don't want him to run our city? He only got his Assembly seat cause Cunningham handed it to him. He has never won a citywide office on his own. : He has no platform. He just talks a lot and does nothin. Why is Manzo running again? He's been shoved aside something like 4 times by the voters in our town, but he won't go away. : Doesn't Manzo know as Mayor he can't pardon his crooked brother....only a Governor can do that. Maybe he thinks if he wins and he gets friendly with the Governor maybe he can push him to pardon his brother. Maybe that's it. : We need someone honest and someone who can talk about something other than cromium. (I know I spelled that wrong). I am just tired of going to vote and havin to decide which person will hurt our city less. But I know Lou Manzo is not a leader we should vote for. Its time for him to just go away. Maybe Belmar would be a better place for him. He will lose in his Assembly race next time around, so why make him Mayor? : We have so many people here. Can't we get better people to run for office? I wish someone would try...cause I am tired of the choices we've got now. : Manzo - A Leader or a Loser? I say Loser. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 4724 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 08:08:17 Subject: A JONES FOR PRESS A JONES FOR PRESS Urban Times News 08/06/04 - 08/12/04 by Arnold W. Stovell In a statement released last week, Chief of Staff, PR guru, and Acting Mayor appointee to the Jersey City Incinerator Authority, Roger Jones questioned the award of an insurance brokerage contract assigned to R.A.M Insurance Company. While the inquiry into the award seemed justified for a contract valued at over $641,000, upon further scrutiny these protests seem politically motivated. According to Jones, "the way the matter has been handled was not in line with standard business practices." He noted that he had raised his objections to the contract at the Board's regular meeting on July 27th. Now, Mr. Jones wishes to make a public display of his "outrage," making sure to include an acting mayor service announcement in his press release. "Mayor Smith has dedicated his career to providing the people of Jersey City with a government that serves the need of all people of Jersey City in the most honest and cost-efficient manner possible. That's what people have told him they wanted. Oren Dabney, in proposing this contract, has disgraced the people of Jersey City. He has seemingly embraced the 'politics as usual' methodology that brought disgrace to Jersey City. We cannot allow this to go forward." The contract in question provides some ammunition because the bid to broker the agency's business package had two of its three participants withdraw from the process. While such circumstances are not unusual, Jones has focused his discontent on this award because Ronald A. Manzo, who recently pleaded guilty to insider trading charges, formerly owned R.A.M. Insurance Company. The Manzo family has often been in the spotlight for its business and political dealings. Sibling Louis Manzo currently serving in the state assembly has thrown his hat into the ring for mayor. "As far as I know my brother sold that business months ago. There's nothing more than that," he dismissed. "I suspect he (Jones) is just trying to get some press." "I want to stress that Ron Manzo has nothing to do with this contract," said Paul Labov, a lawyer for the JCIA. He explained that RAM would only get five to ten percent of the contract as its broker. "The way this policy works is there are two actual companies providing the coverage. They will be paid the $641,000 minus the broker's fee. RAM will not be handling the actual insurance contract itself." JCIA Director Oren Dabney presented the agency's board of commissioners with a memo saying two perspective insurance companies declined to bid. Sources at the agency do not characterize this occurrence as outside of standard procedure. "We are hesitant to comment and make any more of these demands than they already are," said, Oren Dabney, Executive Director of the JCIA. "Three insurance companies declined to bid because the agency is a high-risk client. We reside in a high-risk area (within proximity of contaminated soil). We do high-risk work. The agency handles solid waste, demolition, garbage collection, street cleaning, and other services, all of it with even greater risk given the increased threat of terrorism," he explained. "Companies withdrew because the premiums were not high enough. We assigned a broker who got our coverage for only a 1.5% increase in costs. People know how much insurance costs increase from year to year on their car and their home. Our insurance premiums went up about $10,000 this year. That represents a significant savings to the people of Jersey City, " said Dabney. "As for R.A.M, it is owned by Michelle Campisano, not Ronald Manzo. Mr. Jones should do his homework and check his own house. The City of Jersey City just renewed its own excess liability policies through R.A.M., as did the Jersey City Board of Education. The Acting Mayor sits on the City Council and knows these things. His Chief of Staff should know these things too." Mr. Dabney said. "We welcome any investigation into our dealings because everything is done above board." The majority of commissioners seem unconcerned with these allegations. Board chair Phil Flood, and commissioners Frank Checchia, Carl Czaplicki, and Domenic Santana, voted to award the bid. The Rev. Fernando Colon, Thomas Lambert and Roger Jones voted against the measure. Perhaps the neophyte commissioner should pursue his "outrage" over this incident. The people of Jersey City would be grateful to know if its trusted board members and longtime director were indeed, unscrupulous, as Mr. Jones would have listeners believe. On the other hand, if there is nothing to these veiled accusations, voters will also be the wiser. Then Jersey Cityites will know that every time public relations entrepreneur, Chief of Staff, Acting Mayor appointee, Roger Jones does not get his way during a JCIA vote, we can expect city resources to be squandered on overblown claims and investigations. That should clear up who is really unscrupulous. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood posted Message 4725 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 08:49:52 Subject: Re: Tactics. : : All these negative posts and name calling just shows everybody where the REAL fear lies. It lies in Willie Flood. See, when the truth is about to come out the liars and kinivers do anything they can to discredit the person who is going to tell it. Calling her dumb and stupid is a great disrespect to a woman who has NEVER disrespected ANYONE. Even if they are disrespecting her. She is woman enough to take it in stride and put it all in GOD's hands. She has more courage, brains, and integrety than all you political lackeys combined. Yes it peeves me to hear people talk like this about the "Queen" who carried and birthed me, yeah it makes me want to bash someones skull open, but that's just the attitude that they expect me to take. You have another thing coming. They have raised me better than that and they have trained me on how to deal with vicious illiterate people like the cowards who are to scared to say their names but will disrespect MY MOTHER. I said my name. Be a man and say yours. I hope she does run for mayor. Nobody will be strong enough to beat her. Manzo Healy they only won and got to where they are because of her coattails. Some of the biggest politicians got their start from WILLIE FLOOD. Lets not forget!!! I didn't!!!!! Laugh now cry later!!! Thats what I say. : :::Talk about disrespect. You show utter contempt for anyone who ever tried to teach you the English language or how to write a cogent essay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood posted Message 4726 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 08:50:58 Subject: Re: Tactics. : : : All these negative posts and name calling just shows everybody where the REAL fear lies. It lies in Willie Flood. See, when the truth is about to come out the liars and kinivers do anything they can to discredit the person who is going to tell it. Calling her dumb and stupid is a great disrespect to a woman who has NEVER disrespected ANYONE. Even if they are disrespecting her. She is woman enough to take it in stride and put it all in GOD's hands. She has more courage, brains, and integrety than all you political lackeys combined. Yes it peeves me to hear people talk like this about the "Queen" who carried and birthed me, yeah it makes me want to bash someones skull open, but that's just the attitude that they expect me to take. You have another thing coming. They have raised me better than that and they have trained me on how to deal with vicious illiterate people like the cowards who are to scared to say their names but will disrespect MY MOTHER. I said my name. Be a man and say yours. I hope she does run for mayor. Nobody will be strong enough to beat her. Manzo Healy they only won and got to where they are because of her coattails. Some of the biggest politicians got their start from WILLIE FLOOD. Lets not forget!!! I didn't!!!!! Laugh now cry later!!! Thats what I say. : : : :::Talk about disrespect. You show utter contempt for anyone who ever tried to teach you the English language or how to write a cogent essay. Whatever.......... Focus on the topic. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood posted Message 4727 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 08:52:30 Subject: Re: Touchy touchy !! : Who got your undies all tied in a knot ? : Was it ..... SATAN ???!!! No... It was backstabbing, disloyal, cowards like yourself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood posted Message 4728 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 08:53:32 Subject: Re: Tactics. : She couldn't even win council at large in 1997. Watch as she joins Healy's team. Funny. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood posted Message 4729 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 08:55:14 Subject: Re: Is she really running ? : : Or is this just UTN blather ? : You need pepole and money to run for office, for starters. : Flood has neither, nor the backing of anyone who has both also! Really? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Peeved posted Message 4730 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 09:08:27 Subject: Harvey is a little boy. You know what happens when you give someone power that has never had power? This!!! I am soo angry at Harvey Smith. He doesn't know how many enemies he has in JC. You have done a disservice to the people of this city let alone your race. Then you have the nerve to put a campaign office in the middle of the ghetto? You have some nerve. GOD is watching all the bullsiht you are diong and you will get yours. You might as well pack your things and your little sons and move to the west coast because you're finished here!!! Everyone hates you!! Including me and everyone in ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ??? posted Message 4731 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 09:10:39 Subject: Re: Manzo - A Leader or a Loser? : Ouch...it looks like Louie has some work to do to win over Mr/Ms Yahoo. But...point well taken about re-run candidates. Seems like the same ole thing again and again. Gee.. I always hated leftovers as a kid. ;) : : : : Why is Lou Manzo running for Mayor AGAIN!?! Hasn't he figured out that we don't want him to run our city? He only got his Assembly seat cause Cunningham handed it to him. He has never won a citywide office on his own. : : He has no platform. He just talks a lot and does nothin. Why is Manzo running again? He's been shoved aside something like 4 times by the voters in our town, but he won't go away. : : Doesn't Manzo know as Mayor he can't pardon his crooked brother....only a Governor can do that. Maybe he thinks if he wins and he gets friendly with the Governor maybe he can push him to pardon his brother. Maybe that's it. : : We need someone honest and someone who can talk about something other than cromium. (I know I spelled that wrong). I am just tired of going to vote and havin to decide which person will hurt our city less. But I know Lou Manzo is not a leader we should vote for. Its time for him to just go away. Maybe Belmar would be a better place for him. He will lose in his Assembly race next time around, so why make him Mayor? : : We have so many people here. Can't we get better people to run for office? I wish someone would try...cause I am tired of the choices we've got now. : : Manzo - A Leader or a Loser? I say Loser. LOSER!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tastes just like cherrry cola posted Message 4732 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 09:58:01 Subject: it's great that this is the opinion of a Newport female : Ouch... it would be awful if this was some drunk loser guy sitting in the old courthouse pushing for Healy by posing as a woman on the internet. Whou knows where this might lead? Sneaking over to Christopher Street for a few drinks out of curiousity and even maybe the whole Christine Jurgense route. The guy with the scalpel should only charge half price, for whoever it might be is a pr1ck but has no ballz. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uncle Sambo posted Message 4733 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 10:16:11 Subject: Re: Harvey is a little boy. : You know what happens when you give someone power that has never had power? This!!! I am soo angry at Harvey Smith. He Including me and everyone in ward F. Yo man, you mean to tells me that the peps in the Ward F Ghetto have computers too? You got Crime, crack, handguns, drugs, garbage, gangs, now computers, what will they think of next! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vote for Honest Government posted Message 4734 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 11:17:07 Subject: Re: it's great that this is the opinion of a Newport female Some people just hate reading the truth. Must be tough backing a guy who is a 3 time loser. And you would think since he's so upset about this person "posing" as a woman at Newport and implies it isn't really such a person....this guy would at least sign HIS name. Guess Lou's supporters would rather hide under the darkness of night than be seen in the light of day. IN the end...Harvey will rule the day!! : it would be awful if this was some drunk loser guy sitting in the old courthouse pushing for Healy by posing as a woman on the internet. Whou knows where this might lead? Sneaking over to Christopher Street for a few drinks out of curiousity and even maybe the whole Christine Jurgense route. : The guy with the scalpel should only charge half price, for whoever it might be is a pr1ck but has no ballz. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Run Sandra Run posted Message 4735 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 11:34:19 Subject: Despicable Harvey Smith Harvey Smith is the lowest of low. Sandra Cunningham its time to Save Jersey City. : You know what happens when you give someone power that has never had power? This!!! I am soo angry at Harvey Smith. He doesn't know how many enemies he has in JC. You have done a disservice to the people of this city let alone your race. Then you have the nerve to put a campaign office in the middle of the ghetto? You have some nerve. GOD is watching all the bullsiht you are diong and you will get yours. You might as well pack your things and your little sons and move to the west coast because you're finished here!!! Everyone hates you!! Including me and everyone in ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 4736 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 18:17:13 Subject: If Buonocore can run for Mayor ,Then So can Tom Gaynor We need him more then Avon-By-The-Sea.Lets get those petitions signed for tom. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseVal posted Message 4737 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 10, 2004 at 18:17:23 Subject: If Buonocore can run for Mayor ,Then So can Tom Gaynor We need him more then Avon-By-The-Sea.Lets get those petitions signed for tom. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Val ain't a Gal posted Message 4738 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 00:45:24 Subject: Re: If Buonocore can run for Mayor ,Then So can Tom Gaynor - NOT : We need him less then Avon-By-The-Sea.Lets get those petitions signed for toms commitment. soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** But Who Cares? posted Message 4739 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 06:40:06 Subject: Re: it's great that this is the opinion of a Newport female :::Someone in Newport has an opinion? That's a shocker because they spend their whole shallow, transient (most only sleep there for less than 5yrs. then move) little lives denying they live in Jersey City, don't bother to vote, whine and stomp their little feet bemoaning the horror of Jersey City. They are almost as bad as that revolting group over at Port Liberte. : : Ouch... : it would be awful if this was some drunk loser guy sitting in the old courthouse pushing for Healy by posing as a woman on the internet. Whou knows where this might lead? Sneaking over to Christopher Street for a few drinks out of curiousity and even maybe the whole Christine Jurgense route. : The guy with the scalpel should only charge half price, for whoever it might be is a pr1ck but has no ballz. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4740 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 09:41:13 Subject: The Big Ticket and the Little Ticket In not much more than two months, Jersey City gets to vote for both President and Mayor. As this election for Mayor is during a Presidential election year, it will be interesting to see if any of the candidates for Mayor try to distinguish themselves from the rest of the pack by taking positions on national issues. With terrorism as both a local and a national concern, this could be an effective tactic. Given the Jersey Cityite's view of the world, the choice of Commander in Chief shrinks on the horizon in comparison to the up close and personal of who gets to rule the the roost at 280 Grove for less than a year. But that's not the bird's eye vies of the State and National Democratic organzations. When the polls showed the presidential campaigns as tied in New Jersey, I speculated that the Democratic Party would watch and restrain the Jersey City Mayoral candidates. Then, with the possibility of a close presidential election in New Jersey, if the Jersey City local race turned into a circus, that would pose a risk to the Hudson County Kerry vote. Now that recent polls show New Jersey leaning towards Kerry, there isn't really a reason to worry about Jersey City lousing up the bigger picture -- no reason to promise consolation prizes (or blows about the head and face from blunt objects) for the losers. It looks like Jersey City could see some very aggressive campaigns for Mayor. Now, for those that are really in it to win it, they better be prepared to use their elbows -- and to watch out for flying elbows! And that brings up another question, which of the candidates are really running? Wandering around town asking for money to throw parties and hire friends to work on a campaign is a great way to spend a Summer vacation. Others will be warming up for a Council run this Spring. Certainly some of the candidates are intended as spoilers -- just there to draw votes from a serious candidate. The deadline for the filing of petitions for both the Mayor and State Senator in the 31st is September 15th. As the campaigns won't really start their engines until after Labor Day (and pop the clutch the next week after things settle down after back to school week), there's plenty of time for prospective candidates to gather in the wings. So far though, on the part of Joe and Jane Citizen, I really don't see much enthusiasm concering the election at all right now. Of course, this might very well change once things heat up in September. And if a candidate receives the strong backing of the Cunningham organization (and particularly if there is a resulting consequent vice a versa, every action having an immediate and equal reaction, ya' know), interest in local politics will go from 0 to 100 in just a few seconds. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Downtown Girl posted Message 4741 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 09:45:40 Subject: Stop posting about Tom Gaynor Can you all please stop talking about Tom Gaynor. Its annoying... He's a has been and no one cares if he's seen on the beach in Avon... As for Tom and his wife they couldn't get 5 votes between the two of them. With all the stuff going on in the city its really pathetic that all anyone can post about is Tom Gaynor sitings... STOP IT!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uptown Guy posted Message 4742 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 10:13:50 Subject: Re: Stop posting about Tom Gaynor FYI - - Its Tom Gaynor talking about and posting all that crap "Tom Gaynor".... no one else cares about that loser. He just likes reading his own name on the boards, and has nothing better to do with his useless life, so he spends his days reading and posting garbage here. And remember....these two idiots (Tom and Nancy) were the creation of good ole Bret Schundler. He's the one who foisted them on us in the first place. Don't forget that. ***** : Can you all please stop talking about Tom Gaynor. Its annoying... He's a has been and no one cares if he's seen on the beach in Avon... As for Tom and his wife they couldn't get 5 votes between the two of them. With all the stuff going on in the city its really pathetic that all anyone can post about is Tom Gaynor sitings... STOP IT!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4743 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 11:34:48 Subject: Mayor's campaigns in the (not so) frosty North Up here in the Northern hinterlands of Jersey City, two candidates are currently in view. The Healy group has a storefront on Central Avenue (as luck would have it?) just down the block from Garden State News on Bower Street. There's a big sign in the window of the Healy Hq. letting everybody know that Jerry Healy's got the Heights one-two punch of DeGise and Gaughan watching his back. Lou Manzo has been stomping the Heights pavement. I ran into him on Central Avenue. I understand that yesterday evening he was on Griffth Street with a couple of dozen supporters. Too bad they didn't knock on my door. I would have taken a picture to post here. Maybe the orange van scared them! One house on the block did put Manzo For Mayor signs in every window -- the first of the Mayor race signs that I've seen in a private residence. Anybody see the rest of the pack hereabouts? Did I just miss them or don't we count? Mebbe, they're saving the best for last! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4744 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 13:23:23 Subject: Yet another Heights Healy Campaign office Over on Oakland Ave. (by the Ukrainian Hall, near State Hwy.), there's yet another Healy campaign office. Does Healy for Mayor have an office on Newark Avenue by the Administration Building? How many are in the other neighborhoods of the city? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 4745 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 13:40:22 Subject: Re: HEALY CAMPAIGN OFFICES ? HEALY OPENED UP ANOTHER OFFICE ? WOW ! IF HE OPENS UP ONE MORE, I GUESS ALL THE OTHER CANIDATES WILL HAVE TO DROP OUT OF THE RACE BECAUSE HE WILL AUTOMATICALLY BECOME THE MAYOR. NOT ! : Over on Oakland Ave. (by the Ukrainian Hall, near State Hwy.), there's yet another Healy campaign office. : Does Healy for Mayor have an office on Newark Avenue by the Administration Building? How many are in the other neighborhoods of the city? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 4746 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 15:24:48 Subject: NOVEMBER MAYOR ELECTION CANCELLED HEALY OPENED AN OTHER OFFICE IN WARD E. HE IS AUTOMATICALLY THE MAYOR NOW. ALWAYS REMEMBER, GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS ! : HEALY OPENED UP ANOTHER OFFICE ? WOW ! IF HE OPENS UP ONE MORE, I GUESS ALL THE OTHER CANIDATES WILL HAVE TO DROP OUT OF THE RACE BECAUSE HE WILL AUTOMATICALLY BECOME THE MAYOR. NOT ! : : : Over on Oakland Ave. (by the Ukrainian Hall, near State Hwy.), there's yet another Healy campaign office. : : Does Healy for Mayor have an office on Newark Avenue by the Administration Building? How many are in the other neighborhoods of the city? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watchful Eye posted Message 4747 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 17:13:54 Subject: Re: NOVEMBER MAYOR ELECTION CANCELLED The number of idiots who post stupid comments here....such as the last two....never ceases to amaze me. I guess its all the in-breeding. : HEALY OPENED AN OTHER OFFICE IN WARD E. HE IS AUTOMATICALLY THE MAYOR NOW. ALWAYS REMEMBER, GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS ! : : HEALY OPENED UP ANOTHER OFFICE ? WOW ! IF HE OPENS UP ONE MORE, I GUESS ALL THE OTHER CANIDATES WILL HAVE TO DROP OUT OF THE RACE BECAUSE HE WILL AUTOMATICALLY BECOME THE MAYOR. NOT ! : : : : : Over on Oakland Ave. (by the Ukrainian Hall, near State Hwy.), there's yet another Healy campaign office. : : : Does Healy for Mayor have an office on Newark Avenue by the Administration Building? How many are in the other neighborhoods of the city? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4748 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 17:45:56 Subject: Vox populi These posters are all voters AND active in local politics. : The number of idiots who post stupid comments here....such as the last two....never ceases to amaze me. I guess its all the in-breeding. : : HEALY OPENED AN OTHER OFFICE IN WARD E. HE IS AUTOMATICALLY THE MAYOR NOW. ALWAYS REMEMBER, GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS ! : : : HEALY OPENED UP ANOTHER OFFICE ? WOW ! IF HE OPENS UP ONE MORE, I GUESS ALL THE OTHER CANIDATES WILL HAVE TO DROP OUT OF THE RACE BECAUSE HE WILL AUTOMATICALLY BECOME THE MAYOR. NOT ! : : : : : : : Over on Oakland Ave. (by the Ukrainian Hall, near State Hwy.), there's yet another Healy campaign office. : : : : Does Healy for Mayor have an office on Newark Avenue by the Administration Building? How many are in the other neighborhoods of the city? ***************** End Of Article ****************** togay posted Message 4749 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 19:51:40 Subject: manzo rumors Rumor has it the Jersey City Health Department has been fined $105,000 in penalties for failure to submit Right to Know Surveys on time. The Culprit in this matter is a health department employee who was highly recommended by an assemblyman from Greenville. Does this assemblyman know that these reports are crucial to the safety and lives of emergency response personnel. It is common knowledge that an assemblyman from Greenville has been in the closet for years. What is he ashamed of? Yet he expects us in the gay community to vote for him when he runs for Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aug 11 2004 posted Message 4750 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 20:50:01 Subject: Jeresy City Council Meeting August 11, 2004 The museum is hopping. The artists move into the lecture-room in bunches, followed by politicians, business-suited attorneys, curiosity seekers and other folks who like a good show. Some are wearing eviction notices from New Gold around their necks. They dangle there, an implicit challenge. Most of the attendees have fluorescent Powerhouse Arts District stickers on their shirts. The City Council only meets once a month during the summer, so this is our shot for August to convince the municipal government that the time for action is now. We're looking for a seat under the speakers. At City Hall, we could barely hear the voices in the main council chambers. The AV system in the Museum is better, but we're not taking any chances. Tough-looking guys wearing blocky t-shirts reading "Liberty Harbor... When?" and "Tax Abatements Mean Jobs" file in, hunting for seats. Yet another reason there ought to be an alliance between artists and working-class residents: I'm sure just about anybody at 111 First Street could have designed these guys a more stylish run of threads. The artists are ready. After more than a year of meetings, they know what to do, and how to present themselves. Nancy Wells has a headdress on, made out of what appear to be eviction notices; Kelly Darr carries with her some magnificent prints of that stubborn prizefighter, the Old Gold smokestack. Nicola Stemmer sits in the center aisle where he can greet attendees with a smile. Stay optimistic, keep the energy up: that's what Nicola has always said. Onstage, there's not much activity yet. Mayor Smith surveys the crowd cautiously, and takes the microphone. There's a capacity requirement in the room, we're told, and we're about to exceed it. Consequently, the council has moved the two "controversial" matters to the front of the agenda, and those who are here to talk about the Powerhouse District and the Sixth Street Embankment can circulate out and leave after those issues have come to a vote. Well, that's good: that means the artists are up first, and won't have to wait. My only worry is that this might be another bait and switch -- that the crowd will be encouraged to disperse, and then, away from the watching eyes of community groups, the government will get all too cozy with Lloyd Goldman's lawyers. Ah, but see, that's the cynicism we're told we don't need in this debate. Sorry, Charlie, as a loyal Hudson County resident, cynicism is the very soul of my patriotism. Show me a Hudson County resident who isn't proudly cynical, and I'll show you a new arrival or a Manhattan-identified commuter. We glance down at the agenda -- why are these always so difficult to understand? I never get a clear sense of what's at stake. Satisfied that our complaint seems to be covered under item G, I put the sheaf of legalese back under the seat. By the side of the stage, a woman from an organization called Talking Politics has set up a videocamera, and is trying to insure that her microphones are functioning properly. We're all expecting something so different from that which the dispassionate agenda would suggest. The rustling of paper, amplified by the microphones, sounds like rain on treetops. Councilman Jeremiah Healy sits at the left end of the table. I don't know much about him, but I do know he's running for mayor. There's something endearing about him -- he has the faraway look of a priest. The other councilpeople begin to file in -- stentorian Viola Richardson, amiable Mariano Vega, efficient Mary Donnelly, anxious Junior Maldonado. We are told that Councilman Lipski is attending a funeral, and will join the meeting when he can. I don't see the famous Mr. Gaughan yet; maybe he's on vacation? Nope, just fashionably late. Self-possessed, he walks the length of the stage, whispers in the Mayor's ear, and sits back, deep in his chair. Like a rock show at CBGB, the June meeting started almost an hour after it was scheduled to begin. Today's ship is run a little tighter: when the City Clerk takes roll call, it's 10:25. But before we can get down to business, the president of the Museum has a few words for us all. This seems inappropriate and self-serving, but hey, whatever; it's her party, and she'll speak if she wants to. We'd like to see this kind of crowd at the Museum when there's not a City Council meeting, she tells us. Take some legitimate stands on behalf of the arts district, and chances are, you will. They're a motley bunch, this City Council. From our very large mayor to gangly Councilman Brennan, these are unique faces and bodies; all very Jersey in their peculiar reactions and ruffled, unpretentious personalities. They sit, a little glazed-over, as the clerk reads the liturgy: the complete agenda, item by item. It's sparkling prose. Clerk Byrnes either keeps getting items wrong, or the version disseminated doesn't correspond to the one the councilpeople are working from. It hardly matters, since nobody's listening anyway. Councilman Gaughan isn't even at the table anymore -- he's playing peekaboo from the fly, chatting on a cellphone. Why can't these guys ever cut to the chase? Mr. Maldonado wants to. Both Mariano Vega and Junior Maldonado have, in recent days, been very public about their support for the arts community at 111 First Street. They observe every rule of decorum, but it's clear they're raring to go, and he wants the Powerhouse plan front and center. Yet the council has gotten sidetracked again. They've begun bickering with a city official about street openings that haven't been properly filled: does the government have budget to hire certified inspectors, or should they do it through NID? My God, this is not a metaphor: they are actually arguing about potholes. As a wise Jersey City resident once told us, alphabet soup brings uncertainties. The council tries to get around to the Powerhouse District, but they 're confused about the difference between item G and item P. Item P? Well, item G includes 110 First Street in the protected district, and item P does not. G is the recommendation of the Historic Preservation committee; P is the PG-13 version of G, added to the agenda after the caucus. The unnamed city official who testified about the potholes offers that he'd be happy to start with O. Hey, don't let me stop you, buddy. They start with O. O authorizes the city to acquire the Sixth Street Embankment, now owned by Conrail. Community groups have, for several years, been trying to convince the municipal government to take over the old railroad viaduct and convert it into greenspace. Nobody here is about to object to this preservation-minded plan. For the first time, there's polite applause. Buoyed by this, or perhaps just eager to get the show on the road, the mayor speaks up: "How about P and/or G?" My words, or letters, exactly. The discussion begins in earnest. Mariano Vega encourages the council to adopt G, and, in the process, protect what's left of 110 First Street. The city, he believes, will be in a stronger bargaining position if 110 is brought into the district. We need to be able to hold Mr. Goldman accountable, we're told; if we extract 110, we've got nothing to bargain with. It is, he says, easier to extract buildings later than include them once they've been partially demolished. Mayor Smith has a few questions about 110. Damn, we're finally talking about specifics. We, says the boss, were told that we had to deal with the imminent danger of a wall that has been buckling from neglect. Does he mean the top story that was removed, the parapet, or something else? In highly-suggestive language, the mayor makes reference to his well-publicized frustration with the landlord's behavior since last Friday. We all felt, says Smith on behalf of the Council, that Goldman did things that violated the spirit of our agreement. Indeed he did, Mr. Mayor. Councilman Vega takes back the baton. He has, we're told, spent far too much time on the Powerhouse Arts District plan, just to see a "greedy" developer go back on his word. That's right, in advocating G, he uses the G-word. Vega challenges the New Gold claim about the instability of the smokestack: he heard the jackhammers, and he saw a cylinder solid as a brickhouse. The councilman extends his critique to the Goldman line on 110 -- workers have been pulling major beams out of the structure. He requests action to prevent other property owners in the district from weakening their buildings: "if somebody wants to be a wise guy, and take out a roof, then we lose one more historic gem." That's not enough to satisfy Councilman Gaughan. He is worried that the city is rushing the process; landmarking the building prematurely. He makes recourse to two examples of ill-fated historical preservation projects -- the majestic Whitlock property in Lafayette, and a brewery in the Heights. In these cases, the city was unable to attract developers, and the government was forced to de-designate. The artists show no incipient funding for the district, Gaughan says, only high hopes. I've heard others make a version of this argument, and I don't dismiss it. But while landmarking the warehouse district may or may not hinder efforts to redevelop it according to the ULI plan, that's not why we're really here. We're here to support an arts community that has contributed inestimably to the cultural life of Jersey City, and to defend their interests against a landlord who seems hell-bent on driving them out of a building that they've turned into a factory of the imagination. Since our ultimate interest is not with the edifice, but with the community, we're willing to use whatever tools are at our disposal to keep the enclave intact. Landmarking could be such a tool. Passing the Arts District initiative -- and giving it real teeth -- would be a Power tool. Maldonado and Vega are ready with their rejoinders. Historical preservation has been an economic boon for the Downtown, raising property values and defining neighborhoods, says the Ward E councilman. Mr. Vega challenges the suggestion that designating a building makes it a tough sell for real-estate capitalists: the federal government, he insists, gives a 20% construction credit toward development costs on such buildings. We're ready to hear from Robert Cavanaugh, Goldman's new attorney. Mr. Cavanaugh used to sit on the City Council; he's widely considered a close ally of Gerald McCann, and he's at- home in these circumstances. He's only been on this case for a few weeks, but he's a quick study -- he repeats many of the claims that Harold Seide made infamous, and adds a few of his own. He's apparently decided that it's good strategy to suggest that it was Lloyd Goldman himself who created the arts community. This is sort of like saying that Christopher Columbus created America, or that the guy who sold the first typewriter is responsible for Western literature. But it plays well with the more gullible journalists in town, so I'm sure he's going to keep repeating it. Mr. Cavanaugh rejects the idea that Goldman is knocking down 110 First Street on a pretext and insists that New Gold obtained a permit to demolish the entire building from the city; that they were given a go-ahead to do this work. In stark contrast to the urbane, owlish Seide, Cavanaugh's style is really coarse, arrogant. At least twice, he cuts off the mayor in mid-sentence. He's not making any friends here today. Perhaps he doesn't feel he needs any. Mayor Smith reminds Cavanaugh that he requested that New Gold save the bricks that were taken from the smokestack so that the structure could eventually be pieced back together. The brick is being saved, insists the attorney. Now, I watched the demolition -- I saw shards of brick cast from the top of the tower, smashed on the concrete, and scraped into the mouth of a small crane. These bricks are not being preserved, and the mayor knows it: he warns Cavanaugh that his side is facing a "credibility issue." (I'll say.) A fiery Maldonado seconds the objection, and asks how bricks can be saved when workers are slugging away at them with jackhammers. Junior Maldonado gets into a back-and-forth with Mr. Cavanaugh about whether or not New Gold had permission from Ray Meyer, the building supervisor, to tear down 110. Well, jeez, guys, you all have phones; get him on. Both Maldonado and Cavanaugh are heating up, now, and the crowd is punctuating the Councilman's statements with applause. Barely flustered, Mr. Cavanaugh addresses the eviction notices, and explains why, in his eyes, they're not a threat to the community: "in order to get you a long-term lease," he tells the 111 artists, "we had to terminate your tenancy. If you were a bunch of senior-citizens, we would have done it the same way." Wow, comforting. The attorney appeals to the council, and suggests that their rhetoric -- and by extension, the acrimony of the community -- makes his job harder. We're supposed to be sympathetic to this? Before retiring, he takes offense at the "G" word. Councilman Maldonado, his Irish up, acknowledges (and implicitly regrets) the harshness. "But", he continues. "there are harsher words, and they are: 'redevelopment plan, property to be acquired, and eminent domain'". His cadence provokes an eruption of wild applause: it's a rare lyrical moment amidst the public discourse. Artists know how to find those, and also how to reward those who generate them. Time to cast the ballot. Mayor Smith and Councilpeople Brennan, Maldonado, Vega, and Donnelly all vote "yes" on the G issue. Jeremiah Healy, who has been silent throughout, votes no on this item. We must afford the property owner the ability to address emergent problems, we're told. Wow, somebody just lost my vote. Not that he ever had it. Viola Richardson wants to see the documents before she votes, but she gives us a conditional "yes." William Gaughan, to my surprise, abstains. It's meaningful to have the support of the City Council, and I walk away from the Museum feeling like Junior Maldonado and Mariano Vega are legitimate friends of the artist community. But, as always, time is not on our side. In Robert Cavanaugh, Lloyd Goldman has retained a formidable attorney with deep roots in Hudson County politics. He will surely challenge anything the city tries to do, and keep the municipal attorneys tied up in County Court from now until the legal imposition of the landmarking. In the meantime, the bulldozers and cranes will continue to chip away at 110 First, the Arts Center at 111, and the concept of the Powerhouse District. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MidTown Momma posted Message 4751 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 21:02:01 Subject: Re: Stop posting about Tom Gaynor ::If it bothers you so much, stop reading the posts and let the rest of us have some fun at this idiots expense. : Can you all please stop talking about Tom Gaynor. Its annoying... He's a has been and no one cares if he's seen on the beach in Avon... As for Tom and his wife they couldn't get 5 votes between the two of them. With all the stuff going on in the city its really pathetic that all anyone can post about is Tom Gaynor sitings... STOP IT!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4752 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 21:20:31 Subject: Reality Check I have never seen in my life more hemming and hawing about a freakin warehouse. Of course I know artists reside there so it takes on a special significance(grin); but so far I haven't heard that any of them are named Picasso or Pollock or even Van Gogh. This City is awash with preservationists running amok. While these folks waste the time of lawmakers on issues like preserving smokestacks, the streets are unpaved, dirty and crime ridden. Let's tear down these ugly relics of a bygone industrial era and build something new and useful which will bring tax revenue to the City. Revenue which can be used to hire more police, firemen, street cleaners, etc. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say What? posted Message 4753 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 22:08:15 Subject: Re: manzo rumors Who could you possibly be talking about>>>??? Hmm....Gay... In the Closet...Assemblyman...Greenville....Health Department.... gee I have no idea. LOL. : Rumor has it the Jersey City Health Department has been fined $105,000 in penalties for failure to submit Right to Know Surveys on time. The Culprit in this matter is a health department employee who was highly recommended by an assemblyman from Greenville. Does this assemblyman know that these reports are crucial to the safety and lives of emergency response personnel. : : It is common knowledge that an assemblyman from Greenville has been in the closet for years. What is he ashamed of? Yet he expects us in the gay community to vote for him when he runs for Mayor. : ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 4754 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 11, 2004 at 23:19:27 Subject: You were there? : I have never seen in my life more hemming and hawing about a freakin warehouse. Of course I know artists reside there so it takes on a special significance(grin); but so far I haven't heard that any of them are named Picasso or Pollock or even Van Gogh. : This City is awash with preservationists running amok. While these folks waste the time of lawmakers on issues like preserving smokestacks, the streets are unpaved, dirty and crime ridden. : Let's tear down these ugly relics of a bygone industrial era and build something new and useful which will bring tax revenue to the City. Revenue which can be used to hire more police, firemen, street cleaners, etc. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 4755 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 07:01:56 Subject: Re: Jeresy City Council Meeting "By the side of the stage, a woman from an organization called Talking Politics has set up a videocamera." I hope that is a lame attempt at a bad joke because if it isn't, put down your pad & pencil, turn off your tape recorder & go home...your report is not much more than what is discussed on these boards already...only you have made yourself a website (& consider yourself the Matt Drudge of Downtown). Oy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-X-Ray posted Message 4756 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 07:54:24 Subject: How do we cure the Crime situation in Jersey City? Has it ever been this bad.?I dont think so.And the streets are filty.The political corruption gang are having a field day.Dont you think its time for Honest Government.After all its your tax dollars who are supporting this gang, who are running this city into the ground.We need a man or woman who is honest,with brains and has the guts to do the right thing for jersey City. It starts with the Voters.The ball is in your court, good citizens. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr-Ix-Nay posted Message 4757 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 09:02:42 Subject: Re: How do we cure the Gaynor situation in Jersey City? : Has it ever been this bad.?I dont think so.And the streets are filty to boot.The Gaynor gang, Dr-X-Ray, NurseVal, NurseBetsy,NurseMidge, et al, are having a field day.Dont you think its time for a break.After all its our sanity who are supporting this gang, who are running this city into the ground with mindless drivel.We need a man or woman who is honest,with brains and has the guts to do the right thing for jersey City. The ball is in our court, good citizens. sign a petetion and lets make all jersey City boards free of Gaynor and his gang. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4758 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 10:31:53 Subject: Schundlerites for Healy? In the '97 campaign, Jerry Healy vilified Bret Schundler as the root of all evil. This trip on the merry go 'round, Tom DeGise, Bill Gaughan (who ran for the Council on the Schundler ticket) and some members of Bret Schundler's staff are supporting Jerry Healy. Have they decided that Jerry Healy's assertions were correct back then? Or is Healy now saying that his claims weren't true? To view a video of a 1997 Healy For Mayor TV ad, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4759 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 12:08:47 Subject: Online Video: Lou Manzo from a 1993 Debate During a 1993 debate, Lou Manzo answers a question concerning negative campaign literature. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4760 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 12:33:31 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of August 9, 2004 Pat speaks with Javier Inclan, County Clerk, about the Federal investigation of that office. To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weezil Deal posted Message 4761 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 14:05:17 Subject: Breaking News !!!! 4 PM news conference scheduled in Trenton. Rumors are flying that Governor McGreevey may step down or announce he will not run for reelection. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TOOL Time posted Message 4762 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 14:42:31 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of August 9, 2004 This O'Melia's a Load, he's a tool! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uberhooley posted Message 4763 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 14:49:05 Subject: Re: Schundlerites for Healy? Schundlerites for Healy UNITE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Playwright posted Message 4764 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 14:57:02 Subject: Re: manzo rumors Gee, Let's ask Playwright and Freeholder Billy O'Dea? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weezil Deal posted Message 4765 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 15:33:36 Subject: Here's the link http://www.wnbc.com/politics/3648220/detail.html ***************** End Of Article ****************** Golan Cipel posted Message 4766 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 15:37:26 Subject: Re: Breaking News !!!! McGreevey: You govern for all these years and no one calls you a leader, you s*uck one c*ck and everyone calls you a c*cks*cker! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Open and Honest posted Message 4767 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 18:19:56 Subject: So When is Lou Coming out of the Closet? Now that we've seen how keeping sexual orientation can bring down a Governor, when will a certain JC Mayoral candidate come out of the closet and be proud of who he is? Its a shame Lou has treated his sexual orientation as some kind of deep dark secret instead of letting the straight community understand him and the Gay community embrace him. Who knows...it might even tip the scales in HIS favor in November. But if he manages to get elected while staying in the closet...it would be a hammer over his head waiting to fall any time during his term. : 4 PM news conference scheduled in Trenton. Rumors are flying that Governor McGreevey may step down or announce he will not run for reelection. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey Milk posted Message 4768 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 21:29:54 Subject: Never !!! He'll never come out. He knows the "enlightened" electorate of Jersey City would never elect a Gay Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Milhouse posted Message 4769 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 21:31:34 Subject: Too bad Anthony. You won't have Jim McGreevey to kick around any more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** May he choke on a condom posted Message 4770 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 21:52:01 Subject: Good ol' Bret For Immediate Release Contact Sal Risalvato 201-239-1200 201-745-1914 cell Bret Schundler statement on the resignation of Governor McGreevey Why did Golan Cipel decide to bring his charges now? Is it because the Democratic Bosses who run New Jersey got to him somehow, and are using him to clear Jim McGreevey out of the way so they can run John Corzine for Governor next year and keep themselves from losing control of the most powerful Governor's office in America? Indeed, if Jim McGreevey's resignation is simply the opening act in a drama that was pre-scripted by the leaders of the Democratic Party, then these leaders have saved their place in history as the worst scoundrels ever to run a state. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Playwright posted Message 4771 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 22:52:50 Subject: Re: Breaking News !!!! Ask Billy O'Dea ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 4772 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 22:58:54 Subject: Wow !! Did he really say that ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** on press release politicsnj posted Message 4773 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 12, 2004 at 23:44:31 Subject: Re: Wow !! : Did he really say that ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4774 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 04:09:53 Subject: Christie's job has just begun The big rat is running away, but the whole rats nest still needs to get hosed down. And don't let the pose of the misunderstood martyr fool you; we've yet to learn why McGreevey really resigned. In his lament, nothing was said that everybody didn't already know. McGreevey remains the vile fraud. I'm very sorry for his wife and parents. McGreevey should not have used them as props in a tawdry spectacle. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 4775 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 07:04:34 Subject: Re: Christie's job has just begun :::I feel a little sorry for his first wife only & very sorry for the childern. But she had the smarts to divorce him. His parents raised him, so they can spare us those crocodile tears. Except for his homosexuality, they made him what he is. Nice values they instilled. As for the the current wife, she knew full well what she had married into but hey, look she got to feed big time at the public trough & look at the house she got to live in. : The big rat is running away, but the whole rats nest still needs to get hosed down. : And don't let the pose of the misunderstood martyr fool you; we've yet to learn why McGreevey really resigned. In his lament, nothing was said that everybody didn't already know. : McGreevey remains the vile fraud. I'm very sorry for his wife and parents. McGreevey should not have used them as props in a tawdry spectacle. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nurse Betsy posted Message 4776 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 07:24:30 Subject: Early call by Tom Gaynor yesterday I was sitting on the beach in Avon-By-The-Sea with Tom Gaynor having a coffee and a roll yesterday morning and Tom told me McGreevey was resigning this afternoon at 4 Oclock. I didnt believe him. Sure enough, tom was right again.As always i might add. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 4777 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 08:14:00 Subject: Re: Early call by Tom Gaynor yesterday : I was sitting on the beach in Avon-By-The-Sea with Tom Gaynor having a sandcastle building contest yesterday morning and Tom told me McGreevey was resigning this afternoon at 4 Oclock. I didnt believe him. Why should I? Why should you? If this post was 24 hours earlier maybe. But it is not. I wish someone culd help us with our multiple personality disorder so I wuld stop having to keep all these people Iam straight. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who is your daddy! posted Message 4778 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 09:59:01 Subject: who else is gay? Well now that the gov is out, who else is gay? For a long time there had been rumors of political figures in Hudson County being gay, who else will come out of the closet on the upcoming weeks! Who is gay in Hudson County? check the people who are pro gay in the state at: ***************** End Of Article ****************** who cares! posted Message 4779 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 11:46:26 Subject: Re: who else is gay? : Well now that the gov is out, who else is gay? For a long time there had been rumors of political figures in Hudson County being gay, who else will come out of the closet on the upcoming weeks! : Who is gay in Hudson County? : check the people who are pro gay in the state at: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get real posted Message 4780 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 12:06:16 Subject: Re: who else is gay? Being gay or lesbian does not impact the abilities of a person to do their job, regardless of what the position or occupation. Many people are gay in Hudson County and you never know...an openly gay person may enter a key race next year (FYI...an already openly gay person is strongly considering their potential for candidate in 2005). How's it gonna make the bigots feel when they can't blackmail someone with this info. Stay tuned and don't forget you heard it here first. : Well now that the gov is out, who else is gay? For a long time there had been rumors of political figures in Hudson County being gay, who else will come out of the closet on the upcoming weeks! : Who is gay in Hudson County? : check the people who are pro gay in the state at: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Laughing at Bret posted Message 4781 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 12:08:18 Subject: Re: Good ol' Bret Good old doltish Bret. Just gotta have an unconfirmed rumor flying around. Can't just let a bad situation alone, can he? : For Immediate Release : Contact Sal Risalvato 201-239-1200 : 201-745-1914 cell : : Bret Schundler statement on the resignation of Governor McGreevey : : Why did Golan Cipel decide to bring his charges now? : : Is it because the Democratic Bosses who run New Jersey got to him somehow, and are using him to clear Jim McGreevey out of the way so they can run John Corzine for Governor next year and keep themselves from losing control of the most powerful Governor's office in America? : : Indeed, if Jim McGreevey's resignation is simply the opening act in a drama that was pre-scripted by the leaders of the Democratic Party, then these leaders have saved their place in history as the worst scoundrels ever to run a state. ***************** End Of Article ****************** G posted Message 4782 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 13:26:32 Subject: Bill Gaughan(Homosexuality is a sickness) Bill Gaughan thinks homosexuality is an illness in the 8/13/04 Jersey Journal. Why is it an illness.? Does he know alcoholism is an illness. Could he be prejudice against gays? He is one of Jerry Healys biggest supporters, does Jerry Healy feel this way too? I hope Jerry knows alcoholism is an illness ( he has been known to knock a few down ) and not homosexuality, after all he was a Judge. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No excuse for such bigotry and ignorance posted Message 4783 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 13:50:15 Subject: Re: Bill Gaughan(Homosexuality is a sickness) The actual quote as reported by the JJ: '"I believe homosexuality is an illness you're born with," said Gaughan.' Excuse me...we're not Jerry's Kids and this isn't a birth defect. It's our lives! : Bill Gaughan thinks homosexuality is an illness in the 8/13/04 Jersey Journal. Why is it an illness.? Does he know alcoholism is an illness. Could he be prejudice against gays? He is one of Jerry Healys biggest supporters, does Jerry Healy feel this way too? I hope Jerry knows alcoholism is an illness ( he has been known to knock a few down ) and not homosexuality, after all he was a Judge. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I care! posted Message 4784 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 14:35:11 Subject: You should care! First the governor lied to the voters of New Jersey and to his family. He created a fictional image and displayed it to New jersey voters so he could be elected, then his poor capacity to govern created a record 5 billion dollars deficit.(please do not keep blaming it on the Whitman administration) Should we feel sorry for him? Of course not, he is still lying to the people of this state. Being gay is not enough excuse to resign. There is much more than we don’t know yet. I mean he hired his boyfriend and pay him over 100,000 a year from tax payer’s money. During the coming weeks as this develops we will know more of the truth. A liar always a liar! The best thing this gov should do is resign now and let the voters choose a new governor democratically not one appointed by finger. and there will be one more reason apart from the New Jersey turnpike and Newark to make fun of New Jersey. The first gay governor.... will we ever feel proud to live on this state? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4785 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 14:36:35 Subject: Signs in the Heights Manzo signs are regularly popping up on the homes. I've seen just one on Central Ave., so far. Strangely enough, not too many Healy signs. I've only seen two: one on Gaughan's club and another down the block on the house next to the funeral parlor. I'll have to walk over to Ferry Street to see if one happens to be there ;> I just was at the Bagel shop, but I forgot to look in the window of Leona Beldini's real estate office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** latoya posted Message 4786 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 14:45:05 Subject: Mcgreedy Mcgreevy is an example of how liberals mess thing up... will they ever learn that there are certain rules that one cannot bend. One of this rules is that sex is between a man and a woman, it was design that way for a reason. If homosexuality continue to be portrayed as normal, our society will go into chaos, as neither two man or two woman can procreate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Latoya...the name says it all! posted Message 4787 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 14:55:33 Subject: Re: Mcgreedy No one buys the argument that being gay or lesbian will stop procreation. That's a smokescreen arguement. Just because this is YOUR rule doesn't make it anyone else's rule. : Mcgreevy is an example of how liberals mess thing up... will they ever learn that there are certain rules that one cannot bend. One of this rules is that sex is between a man and a woman, it was design that way for a reason. If homosexuality continue to be portrayed as normal, our society will go into chaos, as neither two man or two woman can procreate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 4788 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 15:05:52 Subject: Re: Bill Gaughan/HEALY BIGOTS : Bill Gaughan thinks homosexuality is an illness in the 8/13/04 Jersey Journal. Why is it an illness.? Does he know alcoholism is an illness. Could he be prejudice against gays? He is one of Jerry Healys biggest supporters, does Jerry Healy feel this way too? I hope Jerry knows alcoholism is an illness ( he has been known to knock a few down ) and not homosexuality, after all he was a Judge. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uberhooley posted Message 4789 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 15:32:26 Subject: Re: Signs in the Heights You have got to be the biggest idiot on this board. Really who the hell cares, signs don't win elections, guess you haven't fugured that out yet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4790 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 15:41:51 Subject: So, Rev, Allen's got it then? : You have got to be the biggest idiot on this board. : Really who the hell cares, signs don't win elections, guess you haven't fugured that out yet. So, you're saying that since there are no signs for Rev. Allen in the Heights, that means Rev. Allen's got the election in a bag? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Going to the Party!?! posted Message 4791 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 15:42:57 Subject: Re: Early call by Tom Gaynor yesterday Is Tom throwing that party this Sat @ 1pm at 318 Sylvania Ave in Avon by th Sea Stiil? ***************** End Of Article ****************** What the heck posted Message 4792 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 16:19:30 Subject: Re: Early call by Tom Gaynor yesterday ::Of course! On the beach, in the rain, with the sea swells. Where else would this idiot hold it. : Is Tom throwing that party this Sat @ 1pm at 318 Sylvania Ave in Avon by th Sea Stiil? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 4793 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 16:27:27 Subject: Re: Signs in the Heights ::House next to funeral home is Gaughan's. Be pretty funny if Jerry's sign wasn't there. More appropriately, the sign should be ON the funeral home. : Manzo signs are regularly popping up on the homes. I've seen just one on Central Ave., so far. : Strangely enough, not too many Healy signs. I've only seen two: one on Gaughan's club and another down the block on the house next to the funeral parlor. I'll have to walk over to Ferry Street to see if one happens to be there ;> I just was at the Bagel shop, but I forgot to look in the window of Leona Beldini's real estate office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 4794 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 21:41:58 Subject: It's all over for Bret. The nightmare scenario for Bret is occurring. He won't have McGreevey to run against. It will likely be Corzine in 2005. You could see Bret's bitterness and frustration coming out in last nights ridiculous remarks. The Right Wing Boy Wonder has been thwarted again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wait and See posted Message 4795 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 21:45:02 Subject: Soon Enough McGreevey being Gay is unimportant. How you feel about it on a personal or religious level...that's for you to deal with...and stop preaching to others...gays and straights. Noone really gives a sh-t how you feel personally. That is irrelevant. THE ISSUE HERE is whether McGreevey was blackmailed into using his office and his elected position to get this guy jobs which he wasn't qualified to hold; whether McGreevey used his office to get his "friend" excptions when it came to job qualifications; and whether McGreevey used his office to break laws which he should answer for. Did McGreevey's actions compromise his office? That's what this is about. I couldn't care less about the lurid details that are irrelevant to the core issue of assuring the truthfulness of the office holder and integrity of the office. : No one buys the argument that being gay or lesbian will stop procreation. That's a smokescreen arguement. : Just because this is YOUR rule doesn't make it anyone else's rule. : : Mcgreevy is an example of how liberals mess thing up... will they ever learn that there are certain rules that one cannot bend. One of this rules is that sex is between a man and a woman, it was design that way for a reason. If homosexuality continue to be portrayed as normal, our society will go into chaos, as neither two man or two woman can procreate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 4796 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 21:45:12 Subject: Poor Bill He doesn't know any better. All those pedophile priests he grew up with told him homosexuality was an illness. God bless the Catholic Church. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wonder posted Message 4797 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 21:46:00 Subject: Re: It's all over for Bret. Did he really say that crap I was reading on the blogs? : The nightmare scenario for Bret is occurring. He won't have McGreevey to run against. It will likely be Corzine in 2005. : You could see Bret's bitterness and frustration coming out in last nights ridiculous remarks. The Right Wing Boy Wonder has been thwarted again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frank Hague's Ghost posted Message 4798 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 21:49:41 Subject: I'm shocked !! I'm shocked .. shocked to learn that politicians give jobs and contracts to their lovers, family members, close friends, etc. What is this world coming to ??!! :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 4799 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 21:52:08 Subject: Yes he said it. It was all over the print and electronic media today. I believe it's on audio tape as well. ***************** End Of Article ****************** here is the actual release posted Message 4800 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 22:37:18 Subject: Re: It's all over for Bret. : The nightmare scenario for Bret is occurring. He won't have McGreevey to run against. It will likely be Corzine in 2005. : You could see Bret's bitterness and frustration coming out in last nights ridiculous remarks. The Right Wing Boy Wonder has been thwarted again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** latoya posted Message 4801 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 23:38:08 Subject: from PoliticsNJ U.S. Senator Jon Corzine telephoned several key Democrats today to discuss his fledgling gubernatorial campaign and the prospects of a November 2004 special election, numerous sources said today. Corzine, the sources say, discussed possible candidates for appointment to his Senate seat -- which he would make if her were to be elected Governor, and the post of Assembly Speaker -- which will be vacant in January 2006, assuming Democrats maintain control, following the retirement of Albio Sires. Corzine is reportedly set to huddle with his advisors this weekend. (08/13/04) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Turner posted Message 4802 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 13, 2004 at 23:39:39 Subject: Re: from PoliticsNJ Is Albio Sires retiring? ***************** End Of Article ****************** noname posted Message 4803 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 00:41:18 Subject: Re: Soon Enough Are you homosexual by any chance? : McGreevey being Gay is unimportant. How you feel about it on a personal or religious level...that's for you to deal with...and stop preaching to others...gays and straights. Noone really gives a sh-t how you feel personally. That is irrelevant. : THE ISSUE HERE is whether McGreevey was blackmailed into using his office and his elected position to get this guy jobs which he wasn't qualified to hold; whether McGreevey used his office to get his "friend" excptions when it came to job qualifications; and whether McGreevey used his office to break laws which he should answer for. : Did McGreevey's actions compromise his office? That's what this is about. I couldn't care less about the lurid details that are irrelevant to the core issue of assuring the truthfulness of the office holder and integrity of the office. : : No one buys the argument that being gay or lesbian will stop procreation. That's a smokescreen arguement. : : Just because this is YOUR rule doesn't make it anyone else's rule. : : : Mcgreevy is an example of how liberals mess thing up... will they ever learn that there are certain rules that one cannot bend. One of this rules is that sex is between a man and a woman, it was design that way for a reason. If homosexuality continue to be portrayed as normal, our society will go into chaos, as neither two man or two woman can procreate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** girlyman posted Message 4804 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 00:50:56 Subject: Re: I'm shocked !! : I'm shocked .. shocked to learn that politicians give jobs and contracts to their lovers, family members, close friends, etc. : What is this world coming to ??!! : :)Gaughan has both daughters and his son-in-law on the pad. One no-show and two should be and McGreevy has an illness? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Michael Moore posted Message 4805 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 02:25:32 Subject: Gay American! Michael Moore anounced today he will produce a new movie called "Gay America 9/11" portraying the life of Governor McGreevy. Steven Spilberg will also produce a movie called, "How Gay Liberals destroyed america" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wait and See posted Message 4806 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 08:35:19 Subject: Re: Soon Enough NO...I AM A VERY SEXUALLY SECURE STRAIGHT MAN. : Are you homosexual by any chance? : : : McGreevey being Gay is unimportant. How you feel about it on a personal or religious level...that's for you to deal with...and stop preaching to others...gays and straights. Noone really gives a sh-t how you feel personally. That is irrelevant. : : THE ISSUE HERE is whether McGreevey was blackmailed into using his office and his elected position to get this guy jobs which he wasn't qualified to hold; whether McGreevey used his office to get his "friend" excptions when it came to job qualifications; and whether McGreevey used his office to break laws which he should answer for. : : Did McGreevey's actions compromise his office? That's what this is about. I couldn't care less about the lurid details that are irrelevant to the core issue of assuring the truthfulness of the office holder and integrity of the office. : : : : No one buys the argument that being gay or lesbian will stop procreation. That's a smokescreen arguement. : : : Just because this is YOUR rule doesn't make it anyone else's rule. : : : : Mcgreevy is an example of how liberals mess thing up... will they ever learn that there are certain rules that one cannot bend. One of this rules is that sex is between a man and a woman, it was design that way for a reason. If homosexuality continue to be portrayed as normal, our society will go into chaos, as neither two man or two woman can procreate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gimme a Break posted Message 4807 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 08:39:14 Subject: Re: Gay American! HOW ABOUT A MOVIE ON HOW THE RIGHT WING TIGHT-ASS GOP has turned our society into a bunch of sexually repressed war mongers? : Michael Moore anounced today he will produce a new movie called "Gay America 9/11" portraying the life of Governor McGreevy. Steven Spilberg will also produce a movie called, "How Gay Liberals destroyed america" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Clean your glasses posted Message 4808 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 09:39:03 Subject: Re: Signs in the Heights : You typed - Manzo signs are regularly popping up on the homes. I've seen just one on Central Ave., so far. Take another look, they are there. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Psychiatrist posted Message 4809 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 09:43:01 Subject: Bill Gaughan's Xenophobia is a sickness In Gaughan's case, bigotry, alcoholism, ignorance, and xenophobia are the applicable diagnosed illnesses. This man is pathetic, and those who vote him back into office deserve what they got. : Bill Gaughan thinks homosexuality is an illness in the 8/13/04 Jersey Journal. Why is it an illness.? Does he know alcoholism is an illness. Could he be prejudice against gays? ee is one of Jerry Healys biggest supporters, does Jerry Healy feel this way too? I hope Jerry knows alcoholism is an illness ( he has been known to knock a few down ) and not homosexuality, after all he was a Judge. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4810 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 10:42:48 Subject: In the Heights: Healy signs on the increase Spotted 3 Healy for Mayor signs up in the Heights this not so sunny AM. One on the house of a County worker who dependably tows the 595 line (be it Bobby J, Harnett or DeGise), another on a house on Zabriskie Street (I walk past there every day and never remember seeing a political sign before, wouldn't bet my keyboard on that though), and last but not least Swensen Real Estate is proudly displaying a Healy sign. Sill didn't notice any on the County section of Sherman Place. How's it lookin' aroun' town? Last week, I saw a Flood for Mayor bumper sticker (not on a vehicle but by a telephone booth) on Kennedy Blvd down by Lincoln Park. ***************** End Of Article ****************** QA posted Message 4811 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 16:19:48 Subject: Manzo Photo Hey Uber.. I remember you blasting lazy Manzo for not gettin his photo to you for posting. Did he ever get off his dead ars and do that? I still don't see his smiling face anywhere...lol. Outstanding machine he's running there eh? Looks like when it comes to energy and drive....its more like "Here Come da Judge". And for the record....I don't support anyone...just a barfly with an opinion. : Spotted 3 Healy for Mayor signs up in the Heights this not so sunny AM. One on the house of a County worker who dependably tows the 595 line (be it Bobby J, Harnett or DeGise), another on a house on Zabriskie Street (I walk past there every day and never remember seeing a political sign before, wouldn't bet my keyboard on that though), and last but not least Swensen Real Estate is proudly displaying a Healy sign. : Sill didn't notice any on the County section of Sherman Place. : How's it lookin' aroun' town? Last week, I saw a Flood for Mayor bumper sticker (not on a vehicle but by a telephone booth) on Kennedy Blvd down by Lincoln Park. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4812 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 17:30:38 Subject: Re: Manzo Photo Nothing from nobody except for the Smith campaign. If the rest of the highly seasoned professionals can't be bothered, I'll start putting the Smith pictures up again next week. When November rolls around it'll be deja vu all over again with the posts on how I ignored candidates and poisoned the voters' minds. : Hey Uber.. : I remember you blasting lazy Manzo for not gettin his photo to you for posting. Did he ever get off his dead ars and do that? I still don't see his smiling face anywhere...lol. Outstanding machine he's running there eh? Looks like when it comes to energy and drive....its more like "Here Come da Judge". And for the record....I don't support anyone...just a barfly with an opinion. : : Spotted 3 Healy for Mayor signs up in the Heights this not so sunny AM. One on the house of a County worker who dependably tows the 595 line (be it Bobby J, Harnett or DeGise), another on a house on Zabriskie Street (I walk past there every day and never remember seeing a political sign before, wouldn't bet my keyboard on that though), and last but not least Swensen Real Estate is proudly displaying a Healy sign. : : Sill didn't notice any on the County section of Sherman Place. : : How's it lookin' aroun' town? Last week, I saw a Flood for Mayor bumper sticker (not on a vehicle but by a telephone booth) on Kennedy Blvd down by Lincoln Park. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4813 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 17:41:09 Subject: What Mayoral candidates have GOTV horns ready to sound? What really gets the walls tumblin' down is GOTV. Do any of the candidates have lists of targeted voters? And will any of the campaigns be on the ready with people to phone, knock on doors, and even drive voters to the polls. It'd seem that Healy and Smith (of 595 Newark Ave and 280 Grove respectively) have the edge here. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 4814 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 18:07:27 Subject: Re: In the Heights: Healy signs on the increase : Spotted Hudson County SUV (#2), with a pretty well-known HC person driving it, removing Manzo for Mayor signs from peoples property Saturday, 8/14. Isn't that illegal on several levels? Or is it okay because of who this person thinks he is? ***************** End Of Article ****************** QA posted Message 4815 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 14, 2004 at 19:16:09 Subject: Re: Manzo Photo You would think with what's on the line here the rest of the field could each invest a few hundred in a digital camera...and hire somebody to use it. ;) A bunch of amateurs. You did your best to be fair...they just don't get it. >>>For the record...No...I'm not a photographer...just a barfly with an opinion. : Nothing from nobody except for the Smith campaign. : If the rest of the highly seasoned professionals can't be bothered, I'll start putting the Smith pictures up again next week. : When November rolls around it'll be deja vu all over again with the posts on how I ignored candidates and poisoned the voters' minds. : : Hey Uber.. : : I remember you blasting lazy Manzo for not gettin his photo to you for posting. Did he ever get off his dead ars and do that? I still don't see his smiling face anywhere...lol. Outstanding machine he's running there eh? Looks like when it comes to energy and drive....its more like "Here Come da Judge". And for the record....I don't support anyone...just a barfly with an opinion. : : : Spotted 3 Healy for Mayor signs up in the Heights this not so sunny AM. One on the house of a County worker who dependably tows the 595 line (be it Bobby J, Harnett or DeGise), another on a house on Zabriskie Street (I walk past there every day and never remember seeing a political sign before, wouldn't bet my keyboard on that though), and last but not least Swensen Real Estate is proudly displaying a Healy sign. : : : Sill didn't notice any on the County section of Sherman Place. : : : How's it lookin' aroun' town? Last week, I saw a Flood for Mayor bumper sticker (not on a vehicle but by a telephone booth) on Kennedy Blvd down by Lincoln Park. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4816 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2004 at 05:51:35 Subject: Are Jersey City Candidates Allergic to the Internet? Plus, if anybody has access to space on the Internet, they can post a picture with a message directly from the Form. Then they can wax poetic with a description of how their guy loves whatever group is shown and was warmly embraced. So far, nobody's bothered. They're addicted to paper -- that goes immediately to the gutter or the wastepaper basket. Also, the campaigns could send me schedules of events, walk arounds, etc. That way, when and if possible, I'd take some pictures myself. : You would think with what's on the line here the rest of the field could each invest a few hundred in a digital camera...and hire somebody to use it. ;) A bunch of amateurs. You did your best to be fair...they just don't get it. >>>For the record...No...I'm not a photographer...just a barfly with an opinion. : : Nothing from nobody except for the Smith campaign. : : If the rest of the highly seasoned professionals can't be bothered, I'll start putting the Smith pictures up again next week. : : When November rolls around it'll be deja vu all over again with the posts on how I ignored candidates and poisoned the voters' minds. : : : Hey Uber.. : : : I remember you blasting lazy Manzo for not gettin his photo to you for posting. Did he ever get off his dead ars and do that? I still don't see his smiling face anywhere...lol. Outstanding machine he's running there eh? Looks like when it comes to energy and drive....its more like "Here Come da Judge". And for the record....I don't support anyone...just a barfly with an opinion. : : : : Spotted 3 Healy for Mayor signs up in the Heights this not so sunny AM. One on the house of a County worker who dependably tows the 595 line (be it Bobby J, Harnett or DeGise), another on a house on Zabriskie Street (I walk past there every day and never remember seeing a political sign before, wouldn't bet my keyboard on that though), and last but not least Swensen Real Estate is proudly displaying a Healy sign. : : : : Sill didn't notice any on the County section of Sherman Place. : : : : How's it lookin' aroun' town? Last week, I saw a Flood for Mayor bumper sticker (not on a vehicle but by a telephone booth) on Kennedy Blvd down by Lincoln Park. ***************** End Of Article ****************** QA Joik posted Message 4817 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2004 at 06:55:26 Subject: Re: Manzo Photo : Hey QA.. ::just a barfly with an opinion. Got that part right...barfly. Manzo has been all over JC for last two weeks. If you & "Here Come Da Judge" culd sober up long enough you would know. Keep tryin' to put a spin on it while Dickson (appropriate last name) keeps illegally entering other peoples property to take down Manzo signs and putting them in county vehicle. : I remember you blasting lazy Manzo for not gettin his photo to you for posting. Did he ever get off his dead ars and do that? I still don't see his smiling face anywhere...lol. Outstanding machine he's running there eh? Looks like when it comes to energy and drive....its more like "Here Come da Judge". And for the record....I don't support anyone...just a barfly with an opinion. ***************** End Of Article ****************** honest john posted Message 4818 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2004 at 07:40:38 Subject: Re: Bill Gaughan(Homosexuality is a sickness) : Bill Gaughan thinks homosexuality is an illness in the 8/13/04 Jersey Journal. Why is it an illness.? Does he know alcoholism is an illness. Could he be prejudice against gays? He is one of Jerry Healys biggest supporters, does Jerry Healy feel this way too? I hope Jerry knows alcoholism is an illness ( he has been known to knock a few down ) and not homosexuality, after all he was a Judge. If nepotism was an illness, Gaughan would be in intensive care. The county and city governments support the whole family. One daughter is even a 15k + benefits councilman's aid and does nothing. County workers do her work, what there is of it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** QA posted Message 4819 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2004 at 11:00:14 Subject: Re: Manzo Photo Hey...even bar flys are entitled to opinions and observations. So while you replace all those wasted Manzo signs...(I'm sure he has lots of em in his closet...lol) tell him to find a real platform to run on. : : Hey QA.. : ::just a barfly with an opinion. Got that part right...barfly. Manzo has been all over JC for last two weeks. If you & "Here Come Da Judge" culd sober up long enough you would know. Keep tryin' to put a spin on it while Dickson (appropriate last name) keeps illegally entering other peoples property to take down Manzo signs and putting them in county vehicle. : : I remember you blasting lazy Manzo for not gettin his photo to you for posting. Did he ever get off his dead ars and do that? I still don't see his smiling face anywhere...lol. Outstanding machine he's running there eh? Looks like when it comes to energy and drive....its more like "Here Come da Judge". And for the record....I don't support anyone...just a barfly with an opinion. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Golan posted Message 4820 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2004 at 11:04:04 Subject: Re: What Mayoral candidates have GOTV horns ready to sound? Time for Manzo to call out the McGrevey "Boys". : What really gets the walls tumblin' down is GOTV. Do any of the candidates have lists of targeted voters? : And will any of the campaigns be on the ready with people to phone, knock on doors, and even drive voters to the polls. It'd seem that Healy and Smith (of 595 Newark Ave and 280 Grove respectively) have the edge here. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City, YOU can make Schundler the next governor of NJ! posted Message 4821 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2004 at 12:54:26 Subject: New Jersey is sick. Bret Schundler is the cure. Let the entire state know about all the new ideas that Bret Schundler brought to Jersey City and the miracles that he accomplished! Write to the Star Ledger and the New York Times. Call in to talk radio shows. Let them know that NJ is sick like Jersey City was and that Bret Schundler is the cure! ***************** End Of Article ****************** QA posted Message 4822 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2004 at 15:14:49 Subject: Re: Are Jersey City Candidates Allergic to the Internet? Forget it Uber....they aren't listening, or just don't get it. I guess these guys figure they'll win or lose on the strength of their personalities. Afterall...I see nothin in the way of a platform from any of em, and politics here has always been nothing more than a cult of personality. In most places an offer of free publicity would cause every Lou, Jerry or Harvey to crawl out from under that pile of political rocks and flood your mailbox with position papers, press releases, appearance schedules, pictures, talking points, etc. But here they look at you like they're Eskimoes being offered ice cubes in the winter. Go figure... : Plus, if anybody has access to space on the Internet, they can post a picture with a message directly from the Form. Then they can wax poetic with a description of how their guy loves whatever group is shown and was warmly embraced. So far, nobody's bothered. They're addicted to paper -- that goes immediately to the gutter or the wastepaper basket. : Also, the campaigns could send me schedules of events, walk arounds, etc. That way, when and if possible, I'd take some pictures myself. : : You would think with what's on the line here the rest of the field could each invest a few hundred in a digital camera...and hire somebody to use it. ;) A bunch of amateurs. You did your best to be fair...they just don't get it. >>>For the record...No...I'm not a photographer...just a barfly with an opinion. : : : Nothing from nobody except for the Smith campaign. : : : If the rest of the highly seasoned professionals can't be bothered, I'll start putting the Smith pictures up again next week. : : : When November rolls around it'll be deja vu all over again with the posts on how I ignored candidates and poisoned the voters' minds. : : : : Hey Uber.. : : : : I remember you blasting lazy Manzo for not gettin his photo to you for posting. Did he ever get off his dead ars and do that? I still don't see his smiling face anywhere...lol. Outstanding machine he's running there eh? Looks like when it comes to energy and drive....its more like "Here Come da Judge". And for the record....I don't support anyone...just a barfly with an opinion. : : : : : Spotted 3 Healy for Mayor signs up in the Heights this not so sunny AM. One on the house of a County worker who dependably tows the 595 line (be it Bobby J, Harnett or DeGise), another on a house on Zabriskie Street (I walk past there every day and never remember seeing a political sign before, wouldn't bet my keyboard on that though), and last but not least Swensen Real Estate is proudly displaying a Healy sign. : : : : : Sill didn't notice any on the County section of Sherman Place. : : : : : How's it lookin' aroun' town? Last week, I saw a Flood for Mayor bumper sticker (not on a vehicle but by a telephone booth) on Kennedy Blvd down by Lincoln Park. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Otto Von Bismarck posted Message 4823 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 15, 2004 at 18:39:04 Subject: Bret Schundler is sick and there is no cure. Unfortunately, Herr Bret is infected with a severe case of egomania compounded by foot-in-mouth disease. ***************** End Of Article ****************** honest too posted Message 4824 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 16, 2004 at 06:34:03 Subject: Re: Bill Gaughan(Homosexuality is a sickness) : : Bill Gaughan thinks homosexuality is an illness in the 8/13/04 Jersey Journal. Why is it an illness.? Does he know alcoholism is an illness. Could he be prejudice against gays? He is one of Jerry Healys biggest supporters, does Jerry Healy feel this way too? I hope Jerry knows alcoholism is an illness ( he has been known to knock a few down ) and not homosexuality, after all he was a Judge. : If nepotism was an illness, Gaughan would be in intensive care. The county and city governments support the whole family. One daughter is even a 15k + benefits councilman's aid and does nothing. County workers do her work, what there is of it. If that's the case, let's call Gaughan's daughter/aide ,Ms. Gaughan-Dixon, and find out what the councillman really meant. Let's see if we can find her at work. ***************** End Of Article ****************** sign of the times posted Message 4825 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 16, 2004 at 07:20:42 Subject: Re: Signs in the Heights : : You typed - Manzo signs are regularly popping up on the homes. I've seen just one on Central Ave., so far. : Take another look, they are there. ;;Look fast. Jimmy Dixon reaches his intellectual apex by driving around town taking them down. Been stopped by police inthe past but let go. Can he still have a drivers license after Brigantine DUI? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 4826 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 16, 2004 at 07:50:30 Subject: NJ deserves better Stop with the jokes.It times to examine one self.Forget about party labels and do whats right for NJ.Both sides are too blame.We are all sheep ,who follow a few so called leaders.The USA is going to fall from within.The corruption and scams must stop.Vote with your head not your- - -.We in this country are running out of time.We must stop the whats in it for me attitude.This goes for City, County, State , and national elections. ***************** End Of Article ****************** YIKES!!! I AGREE WITH TOM!?!??! posted Message 4827 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 16, 2004 at 15:51:03 Subject: Re: NJ deserves better It really scares me when I actually AGREE with Tom Gaynor. But this time he's right. We have lousy leadership at all levels because of the party structure in this nation. If you aren't on the "inside" with the money boyz... you are never going to have a chance to change all the BS. And there is more BS going on in NJ than in most places. We elect leaders who are only interested in hanging on to their little piece of the pie. Its the politicians who continue the parochial politics here. They blame everyone else for our troubles, but never take a regional approach to anything. 566 municipalities in this state is idiotic. We need to regionalize services and disolve municipal governments where ever possible. Then maybe some of these useless politicians would actually have to go to work for a living. : Stop with the jokes.It times to examine one self.Forget about party labels and do whats right for NJ.Both sides are too blame.We are all sheep ,who follow a few so called leaders.The USA is going to fall from within.The corruption and scams must stop.Vote with your head not your- - -.We in this country are running out of time.We must stop the whats in it for me attitude.This goes for City, County, State , and national elections. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GOP Convention Website posted Message 4828 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 16, 2004 at 17:59:43 Subject: GOP Convention Website-.> Hm. I am not sure that, in this case, past performance is a good indicator of incorruptibility. Seen from a skeptical perpective, there are shady figures lurking in the pasts of all of the major contenders. I don't think the honesty of a political candidate is easy to ascertain at this distance, either. Perhaps if I knew the contenders personally... I'm not saying that voting on character is a poor idea. I think it's a good idea if there was a way to get a legitimate sense of the characters we're supposed to be evaluating. But I'm not sure there is. So I'll be casting my vote -- and encouraging others to cast theirs -- based on vision, not percieved competency. I'll vote for the candidate whose articulated vision for Jersey City seems to me yo be the wisest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom NoBrainer posted Message 4988 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 08:48:39 Subject: Re: Wake -up call for Jersey City Voters ::spoken like atrue politician gaynor. Lots of words, nothing said. But you have alot of expereince at things like that. : With all the scandals in Jersey City And State politics the last two Weeks.There is no excuse for the voters of JC.You must vote for the most competent and honest man for Mayor.Take a close look at the candidates history.You will find what type of person you are voting for.I firmly believe this will be your last chance to save Jersey City from High Taxes, Crime and dirty streets.Use your vote wisely.Jersey City deserves the best it can get. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A One Pony Show - Smoke Mirrors posted Message 4989 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 09:07:33 Subject: KL Strageties USES Hoboken Mail Drop Kay's "office" is a mail drop in Hoboken On Washington Street. The WHOLE thing is a SCAM. Her other " Office " is in Donald Scarinci's Building. All posts about Kay and KL Strategies have been removed from other internet boards. Thank You Anthony for letting people read the truth about the Menendez Money Machine. Does anybody know if Corzine and/or his Democratic Senatorial campaign organization is paying Kay Licausi. : What is the nature of KL Strategies? How many employees does the firm have? If KL Strategies is a 30-person shop, then it's quite possible that the monies are earned. If KL Strategies is just Kay Licausi and an answering machine, it's hard to believe that the work output justifies the $$$$ input! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fair is Fair posted Message 4990 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 09:32:07 Subject: Will Senator Kenny call on Menendez to resign? After all he wanted Mcgreevey out over the scandal and Corruption in the Statehouse.How about a Crooked Congressman? ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise Helps Out Menendez posted Message 4991 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 09:58:36 Subject: DeGise wanted McGreevey out for Menendez It would have opened up the US Senate Seat for "Porky Pig".Isnt that just super?Hudson County is a cess pool of corruption. Lets start with the HCIA bond deals over the years. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Telling Tale posted Message 4992 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 10:18:46 Subject: Harvey Smith &Jerry Healy both want Menendez support Or should i say money.Watch out Jersey city if either of these two get elected. Porky Pig wll run the show Just like he does the County. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That Site Owned By Scarinci posted Message 4993 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 10:39:49 Subject: PoliticsNJ.com Won't Report Menendez Scandal PoliticsNJ.com will not even acknowledge the Menendez Mistress Scandal. Obviously THE TRUTH hurts ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** There is Lots More posted Message 4994 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 10:41:25 Subject: Paid Out of 2002 PAC Funds : Do you have a Link for these expenditures? Were they paid from a PAC or from a campaign? : : KL Strategies, Lyndhurst, NJ $5,000 12/31/2002 Media Consulting : : Licausi Kay, Hoboken, NJ $6,340 11/19/2002 Reimb--Travel : : : : : : KL Strategies, Lyndhurst, NJ $5,000 1/24/2003 Media Consulting : : : KL Strategies, Lyndhurst, NJ $5,000 2/6/2003 Media Consulting : : : KL Strategies, Lyndhurst, NJ $5,000 3/7/2003 Media Consulting : : : KL Strategies, Lyndhurst, NJ $5,000 4/21/2003 Media Consulting : : : KL Strategies, Lyndhurst, NJ $5,000 5/5/2003 Media Consulting : : : KL Strategies, Lyndhurst, NJ $5,000 6/6/2003 Media Consulting : : : KL Strategies, Lyndhurst, NJ $5,000 7/2/2003 Media Consulting : : : KL Strategies, Lyndhurst, NJ $5,000 8/20/2003 Media Consulting : : : KL Strategies, Lyndhurst, NJ $5,000 9/5/2003 Media : : : : : : : : : Here's the link : : : : http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.asp?strID=C00349233&cycle=2004 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fat Chance posted Message 4995 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 11:19:49 Subject: Re: Will Senator Kenny call on Menendez to resign? Menendez puts too much money in good ole Bernie Kenny's political pot...he would never call on the almighty Menendez to resign. : After all he wanted Mcgreevey out over the scandal and Corruption in the Statehouse.How about a Crooked Congressman? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vegans against misuse posted Message 4996 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 13:59:02 Subject: Kay Licausi questions Salad Queen or what ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 4997 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 16:40:48 Subject: Buonocore fired? I heard that Acting Mayor L. Harvey fired Ron Buonocore today. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 4998 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 17:08:37 Subject: Press Release: MENENDEZ, PAYNE, ROTHMAN ANNOUNCE $3.4 MILLION COPS GRANT FOR JERSEY CITY; Federal funding to hire twenty new Police Officers Press Release: MENENDEZ, PAYNE, ROTHMAN ANNOUNCE $3.4 MILLION COPS GRANT FOR JERSEY CITY; Federal funding to hire twenty new Police Officers August 18, 2004 JERSEY CITY, NJ — United States Representatives Bob Menendez (NJ-13), Donald Payne (NJ-10), and Steve Rothman (NJ-9) today announced that the US Department of Justice, Office of Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) awarded a $3,437,946 grant to the City of Jersey City to hire a total of 20-full time police officers. Today’s grants were awarded under COPS Universal Hiring Program (UHP), which will help law enforcement agencies pay the salary and benefits of additional officers, who will perform community policing and homeland security activities. “Today's funding recognizes Jersey City's continuing and increasing need to prepare and work to secure our neighborhoods,” said Menendez. “Communities across our great state and nation depend on COPS funding to meet the every increasing needs of protecting our homeland. I call on the Administration to continue to fund this vital program, which historically has provided our community with much-needed police protection, both in our schools and on our streets.” The COPS UHP program provides up to 75 percent of the total cost of salary and benefits of each new officer for three years, up to a maximum of $75,000 per officer. Local funds pay the remainder, and each grantee is required to retain the new position(s) for a minimum of one local budget cycle after the grant funds expire. “This substantial Federal grant will add 20 new officers to the Jersey City police force at a time when additional resources for First Responders are very much needed to meet our area’s increased terror threat,” Rothman said. “Jersey City’s Police Department will use these new officers to help bolster its homeland security efforts, while continuing to improve the quality of life of residents and businesses. In addition to helping safeguard Jersey City, this Federal grant saves local taxpayers from having to pay $3.4 million to hire these new police officers.” Payne said, “I am pleased that we were successful in winning this large award to enable Jersey City to strengthen its law enforcement efforts and to enhance homeland security measures as we continue to deal with the aftermath of September 11th. Funding to hire an additional 20 police officers in Jersey City through the highly successful COPS program will help make the community safer and more secure.” Since 1995, COPS has helped over 13,000 law enforcement agencies make their communities safer by funding the hiring of more than 118,000 officers. Since the inception of the COPS programs the City of Jersey City has received over $18 million in COPS grants. ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stark posted Message 4999 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 17:10:09 Subject: Re: Buonocore fired? : I heard that Acting Mayor L. Harvey fired Ron Buonocore today. Did he get fired for trespassing on city property down at rt. 440 public works doing a campaign commercial? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Never miss a Beat posted Message 5000 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 17:55:31 Subject: Political corruption In HC &JC never miss a beat All in a days work in Hudson County &Jersey City Machine Politics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5001 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 18:08:00 Subject: Mayor L. Harvey Smith: "This is great for Jersey City!" Mayor L. Harvey Smith applauds Congressmen Menendez, Rothman and Payne for helping the Jersey City Police Department protect the people, ensuring both security and quality of life. "Adding sixty new police officers to the force was already planned," says Mayor Smith. "Now, through the efforts of the Congressmen, we can hire eighty new recruits. The number of police officers on the force is at the lowest level in thirty years. Two hundred people on the list have been certified. I am working with the Council to add police officers and deter crime." : Press Release: MENENDEZ, PAYNE, ROTHMAN ANNOUNCE $3.4 MILLION COPS GRANT FOR JERSEY CITY; Federal funding to hire twenty new Police Officers : August 18, 2004 : JERSEY CITY, NJ — United States Representatives Bob Menendez (NJ-13), Donald Payne (NJ-10), and Steve Rothman (NJ-9) today announced that the US Department of Justice, Office of Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) awarded a $3,437,946 grant to the City of Jersey City to hire a total of 20-full time police officers. Today’s grants were awarded under COPS Universal Hiring Program (UHP), which will help law enforcement agencies pay the salary and benefits of additional officers, who will perform community policing and homeland security activities. : : “Today's funding recognizes Jersey City's continuing and increasing need to prepare and work to secure our neighborhoods,” said Menendez. “Communities across our great state and nation depend on COPS funding to meet the every increasing needs of protecting our homeland. I call on the Administration to continue to fund this vital program, which historically has provided our community with much-needed police protection, both in our schools and on our streets.” : : The COPS UHP program provides up to 75 percent of the total cost of salary and benefits of each new officer for three years, up to a maximum of $75,000 per officer. Local funds pay the remainder, and each grantee is required to retain the new position(s) for a minimum of one local budget cycle after the grant funds expire. : : “This substantial Federal grant will add 20 new officers to the Jersey City police force at a time when additional resources for First Responders are very much needed to meet our area’s increased terror threat,” Rothman said. “Jersey City’s Police Department will use these new officers to help bolster its homeland security efforts, while continuing to improve the quality of life of residents and businesses. In addition to helping safeguard Jersey City, this Federal grant saves local taxpayers from having to pay $3.4 million to hire these new police officers.” : : Payne said, “I am pleased that we were successful in winning this large award to enable Jersey City to strengthen its law enforcement efforts and to enhance homeland security measures as we continue to deal with the aftermath of September 11th. Funding to hire an additional 20 police officers in Jersey City through the highly successful COPS program will help make the community safer and more secure.” : : Since 1995, COPS has helped over 13,000 law enforcement agencies make their communities safer by funding the hiring of more than 118,000 officers. Since the inception of the COPS programs the City of Jersey City has received over $18 million in COPS grants. : : ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** she makes nasty look good. posted Message 5002 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 19:16:42 Subject: Can kaye go to jail? Would've loved to be a fly on the wall when Kaye Bi-tch Lacusi found out her gig was exposed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** K Lick Jose posted Message 5003 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 20:40:28 Subject: Re: Can kaye go to jail? : Would've loved to be a fly on the wall when Kaye Bi-tch Lacusi found out her gig was exposed. K Lick Jose should get the gloden tongue award for service to the people of New Jersey. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McGreevey salad days are over posted Message 5004 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 20:48:17 Subject: McGreevey' salad days are over Klickjose are just beginning Is it too much to ask that the recent scandals involving members of congress from New Jersey and the Govennor be a little more informative as to the dirty details. Stealing graft are a constant in New Jersey is it possible to get pictures and graffic detail? For example when and where did the Congressman and his PR person of choice first meat? When did the Governor realize that his choice of a sexual partner was not female? These dirty flithy details make the corruption interesting at least. I have heard that a member of the Jersey City government like to dress up as a women and have wierd acts done to him while being called Leroy. These details could be the basis for a book or a Television show. We the poor people of New Jersey are ignored and told this is not fit for the public but the public has tolerated the corruption basically paying for all the bad behavior we should have the dirty details as well. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Gusto posted Message 5005 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 20:50:16 Subject: Kay will be tossed over to the side or tossed on her side The loss of the toss is what drove the corruption. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Musto's Gusto posted Message 5006 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 20:52:15 Subject: Bobby of the Urban Times News will be revealed for what he did last summer I know what you did last summer Bobby or rather who. So Bobby get the political check book out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** chacha posted Message 5007 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 21:11:56 Subject: Re: Buonocore fired? : : I heard that Acting Mayor L. Harvey fired Ron Buonocore today. : Did he get fired for trespassing on city property down at rt. 440 public works doing a campaign commercial? I heard he left for Medical reasons he had some serious problem with his knees. As everybody knows that if you cannot use your knees in Jersey politics you are finished just ask the Governor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Gay American posted Message 5008 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 21:16:25 Subject: Coming out against corruption I wish McGreevey had never spoken about his sexual affairs, but rather told the truth of his corruption. Its not about being anything other than honest. No one cares about who or how many you go to bed with it cash register honesty we need not pie in the sky visions of sugar plum fairies dancing around. Please end the corruption and let the important facts be presented a gay smoke screen is not the answer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Pays his Mistress Kay of KL Strategies posted Message 5009 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 22:18:42 Subject: Pay2Kay Posted by Pay2Kay on August 21, 2004 at 22:29:40: Menendez Pays his Mistress Kay of KL Strategies ---HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS - directly out of his campaign accounts. Heres' the links 2001 - 2002 http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/expendetail.asp?CID=N00000699&cycle=2002&name=Kay+E%2E+Licausi%2C+Hoboken%2C+NJ http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/expendetail.asp?CID=N00000699&cycle=2002&name=KL+Strategies%2C+Lyndhurst%2C+NJ 2003 - 2004 http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/expendetail.asp?CID=N00000699&cycle=2004&name=KL+Strategies%2C+Lyndhurst%2C+NJ http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/expendetail.asp?CID=N00000699&cycle=2004&name=Kay+E%2E+LiCausi%2C+Hoboken%2C+NJ ***************** End Of Article ****************** cold day posted Message 5010 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 22:23:05 Subject: politicsnj reporting..... Hudson County Executive Thomas DeGise is expected to endorse Jerramiah Healy for Mayor of Jersey City at a news conference tomorrow. DeGise lost an '01 mayoral bid in a runoff against the late Glenn Cunningham. (08/23/04) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Follow The Money posted Message 5011 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 22:24:47 Subject: Investigate Kay 's Bank Records By now the Feds have looked into Mistress Kay's bank records .......mmmmmmmmmm.......Bye Bye Boss Bobalou : Posted by Pay2Kay on August 21, 2004 at 22:29:40: : Menendez Pays his Mistress Kay of KL Strategies ---HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS - directly out of his campaign accounts. : Heres' the links : 2001 - 2002 : http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/expendetail.asp?CID=N00000699&cycle=2002&name=Kay+E%2E+Licausi%2C+Hoboken%2C+NJ : http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/expendetail.asp?CID=N00000699&cycle=2002&name=KL+Strategies%2C+Lyndhurst%2C+NJ : 2003 - 2004 : http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/expendetail.asp?CID=N00000699&cycle=2004&name=KL+Strategies%2C+Lyndhurst%2C+NJ : http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/expendetail.asp?CID=N00000699&cycle=2004&name=Kay+E%2E+LiCausi%2C+Hoboken%2C+NJ : ***************** End Of Article ****************** mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm posted Message 5012 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 22:32:04 Subject: Re: Investigate Kay 's Bank Records Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $7,500 6/24/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,942 6/14/2004 Reimb.-Office Supplies/Food for Elec Day Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 8/18/2003 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 8/18/2003 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 9/26/2003 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 10/31/2003 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 11/26/2003 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 12/15/2003 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 2/3/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 2/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 3/11/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 4/19/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 5/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 5/19/2004 Travel Expenses Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $1,819 4/26/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $1,207 3/26/2004 Reimb.-Office Supplies Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $685 4/6/2004 Office Supplies Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $645 6/4/2004 Reimb.-Travel Expenses Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $374 5/7/2004 Office Supplies Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $168 2/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting ***************** End Of Article ****************** mmmmmmmmmmm posted Message 5013 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 22:37:41 Subject: Re: Investigate Kay 's Bank Records Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $7,500 6/24/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,942 6/14/2004 Reimb.-Office Supplies/Food for Elec Day Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 8/18/2003 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 8/18/2003 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 9/26/2003 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 10/31/2003 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 11/26/2003 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 12/15/2003 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 2/3/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 2/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 3/11/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 4/19/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 5/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 5/19/2004 Travel Expenses Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $1,819 4/26/2004 Fundraising Consulting Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $1,207 3/26/2004 Reimb.-Office Supplies Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $685 4/6/2004 Office Supplies Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $645 6/4/2004 Reimb.-Travel Expenses Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $374 5/7/2004 Office Supplies Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $168 2/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Money Scam posted Message 5014 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 22:45:38 Subject: Kay Also Represents.... Toll Brothers , GoldmanSachs , First Energy, Convicted Briber Joe Barry's Applied Companies, Stevens Institue, Royal Carribean, XANADU amd many many more. Oh What a tangled web we weave. : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $7,500 6/24/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,942 6/14/2004 Reimb.-Office Supplies/Food for Elec Day : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 8/18/2003 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 8/18/2003 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 9/26/2003 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 10/31/2003 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 11/26/2003 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 12/15/2003 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 2/3/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 2/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 3/11/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 4/19/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 5/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 5/19/2004 Travel Expenses : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $1,819 4/26/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $1,207 3/26/2004 Reimb.-Office Supplies : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $685 4/6/2004 Office Supplies : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $645 6/4/2004 Reimb.-Travel Expenses : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $374 5/7/2004 Office Supplies : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $168 2/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5015 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 23, 2004 at 23:58:21 Subject: Who is Sean Caddle? Who is Sean Caddle? : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $7,500 6/24/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,942 6/14/2004 Reimb.-Office Supplies/Food for Elec Day : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 8/18/2003 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 8/18/2003 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 9/26/2003 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 10/31/2003 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 11/26/2003 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 12/15/2003 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 2/3/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 2/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 3/11/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 4/19/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 5/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 5/19/2004 Travel Expenses : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $1,819 4/26/2004 Fundraising Consulting : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $1,207 3/26/2004 Reimb.-Office Supplies : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $685 4/6/2004 Office Supplies : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $645 6/4/2004 Reimb.-Travel Expenses : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $374 5/7/2004 Office Supplies : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $168 2/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT SURE BUT LOOK AT THE PAY OUT FOUND IT ON THE SAME WEB SITE posted Message 5016 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 00:24:23 Subject: SAME AS KL : Who is Sean Caddle? : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $7,500 6/24/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,942 6/14/2004 Reimb.-Office Supplies/Food for Elec Day : : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 8/18/2003 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 8/18/2003 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 9/26/2003 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 10/31/2003 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 11/26/2003 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 12/15/2003 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 2/3/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 2/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 3/11/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 4/19/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 5/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 5/19/2004 Travel Expenses : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $1,819 4/26/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $1,207 3/26/2004 Reimb.-Office Supplies : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $685 4/6/2004 Office Supplies : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $645 6/4/2004 Reimb.-Travel Expenses : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $374 5/7/2004 Office Supplies : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $168 2/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting ***************** End Of Article ****************** NurseBetsy posted Message 5017 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 07:44:47 Subject: Tom Gaynor still sees it as a Two Horse Race Healy And Manzo, that will go right down to the wire.He said nobody campaigns harder then Manzo.He is out there day and night shaking hands.Tom DeGise endorsement of Jerry Healy tomorrow will surely help Healy.Gaynor calls the race even money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betsy is all Wetsy posted Message 5018 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 07:54:01 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor still sees it as a Two Horse Race - : And he's bet on the JackAss. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr -X-Ray posted Message 5019 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 08:13:26 Subject: The Cure for Jersey City is honest leadership No backroom deals,no promises,no incompetent hiring base on Ward Club Leadership.Time to change the business as usual approach of politics in Jersey City.I.O.Us must be a thing of the past.The cure is in the person who will be the next Mayor of Jersey City. Who is up to it is the big question.Voters choose wisely.Tom Gaynor would sure be a happy camper, if this comes true.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pull Endorsement posted Message 5020 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 08:42:23 Subject: Menendez pulls public endorsement of Harvey Smith Why?Is this good or bad for Harvey? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr -Ix-Nay posted Message 5021 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 09:16:58 Subject: Re: The Cure for Jersey City is honest leadership : No backroom deals,no promises,no incompetent hiring base on Ward Club Leadership which is something I am an expert in because its how I got my job.Time to change the business as usual approach of politics in Jersey City.I.O.Us must be a thing of the past at least until mine are paid up.Tom Gaynor would sure be a happy camper, if I got off this computer and gave him his meds and tookhim to the beach .. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nurse Midge posted Message 5022 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 09:58:27 Subject: Great day for the beach @Avon-By-The-Sea Good friends, No crime and certainly,no dirty streets or political corruption.If only we could say the same thing about Jersey City. Maybe after this election ,we can. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Menendez Scheme posted Message 5023 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 10:46:14 Subject: Best Way to launder Money Find a close friend. Set her up in a political type business.Direct business to her and pay her out of your massive campaign fund,That you have accumulated over a period of years.Since you never have a two party competiton,there is no need for political expenditures of any size.See how easy it is to launder money with the Menendez Scheme.The only prblemwas that the Governors office exposed his Scheme and he got greedy with Xanadu & the ship line in bayonne.Both got federal money thanks to menendez.Looks like the party is over for Porky Pig And Kay L. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good Times posted Message 5024 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 12:58:52 Subject: Good news The city put Bunacore on a forced Administrative leave, putting Jimmy Black from IA in as Acting Chief. Jimmy King was stripped of all power at last night JCPA meeting giving the power of the Directors office to David lerner ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nurse Smidge posted Message 5025 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 14:11:36 Subject: Re: Great day for the beach @Avon-By-The-Sea : Good friends, No crime and certainly,no dirty streets or political corruption.If only we could say the same thing about Jersey City. Well, you can't because you dont live here. you moved out after bleeding the city dry, so bug off! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dougie Fresh posted Message 5026 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 15:22:32 Subject: Poll by Cardwell & Jackson is in This poll has just come in. You heard it here 1st, just as you heard Sandra was running for Senate . Buonocore on the move already ! Stay tuned. Lou Manzo 25% Jerry Healy 17% Harvey Smith 15 % Ron Buonocore 15 % Willie Flood 5 % Rev Allen 1% Jim Carrol 1 % +/- 4% 21% undecided ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5027 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 15:33:14 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of August 23, 2004 The conflict between the artists and the landlord at 111 First Street is tonite's topic. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5028 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 15:36:36 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of August 23, 2004 The conflict between the artists and the landlord at 111 First Street is tonite's topic. To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Money Ssheme posted Message 5029 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 17:31:59 Subject: Kay Gets Over $ 800,000 From Xanadu KL Strategies has contract with Xanadu worth over $ 800,000.00 Not bad for a ONE PERSON PR FIRM operating out of a postal mail drop. US ATTORNEY PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tool Time posted Message 5030 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 17:35:16 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of August 23, 2004 WHAT A TOOL! Manzo's patsie! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Charlie Morris posted Message 5031 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 17:39:35 Subject: Numbers are not correct, Poll done by Penn,Schoen & Bertland, Cunningham's pollsters. Those numbers are not accurate. But all that is said is Healy is ahred followed by Manzo. Out of towner Buonocore is not where he wants to be. ***************** End Of Article ****************** INVESTIGATE KL STRATEGIES posted Message 5032 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 20:01:09 Subject: Kay Also Has Contracts Wih Toll Brothers , GoldmanSachs , First Energy, Convicted Briber Joe Barry's Applied Companies, Stevens Institue, Royal Carribean, XANADU amd many many more. Oh What a tangled web we weave. Why are they all giving KL Strategies so much money ??????? KL Strategies has contract with Xanadu worth over $ 800,000.00 Not bad for a ONE PERSON PR FIRM operating out of a postal mail drop. : US ATTORNEY PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAD! posted Message 5033 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 23:44:03 Subject: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD Now that the king is dead PARKING AUTHORITY EMPLOYEES FLOCKED TO HEALY CAMP. WELCOME JCPA. GO JERRY!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** A PUNK! posted Message 5034 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 23:52:06 Subject: Re: Who is Sean Caddle? : Who is Sean Caddle? : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $7,500 6/24/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,942 6/14/2004 Reimb.-Office Supplies/Food for Elec Day : : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 8/18/2003 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 8/18/2003 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 9/26/2003 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 10/31/2003 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 11/26/2003 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean Mr , Newark, NJ $5,000 12/15/2003 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 2/3/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 2/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 3/11/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 4/19/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 5/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $5,000 5/19/2004 Travel Expenses : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $1,819 4/26/2004 Fundraising Consulting : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $1,207 3/26/2004 Reimb.-Office Supplies : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $685 4/6/2004 Office Supplies : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $645 6/4/2004 Reimb.-Travel Expenses : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $374 5/7/2004 Office Supplies : : Caddle, Sean, Newark, NJ $168 2/20/2004 Fundraising Consulting ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paytokay posted Message 5035 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 23:54:11 Subject: She will speard her legs and get off : Toll Brothers , GoldmanSachs , First Energy, Convicted Briber Joe Barry's Applied Companies, Stevens Institue, Royal Carribean, XANADU amd many many more. : Oh What a tangled web we weave. Why are they all giving KL Strategies so much money ??????? : : KL Strategies has contract with Xanadu worth over $ 800,000.00 Not bad for a ONE PERSON PR FIRM operating out of a postal mail drop. : : US ATTORNEY PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Only one horse is running he really see two pink elephants posted Message 5036 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 23:55:30 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor still sees it as a Two Horse Race : Healy And Manzo, that will go right down to the wire.He said nobody campaigns harder then Manzo.He is out there day and night shaking hands.Tom DeGise endorsement of Jerry Healy tomorrow will surely help Healy.Gaynor calls the race even money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now time for the cats fights posted Message 5037 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2004 at 23:57:18 Subject: Re: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD : Now that the king is dead PARKING AUTHORITY EMPLOYEES FLOCKED TO HEALY CAMP. WELCOME JCPA. GO JERRY!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Under the table posted Message 5038 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 08:05:07 Subject: Menendez giving money to Healy by the back door. Why cant Porky Pig come out in the open for jerry Healy?The HCDO machine has spoken.Business as usual,it seems to me.Harvey Smith is part of the deal to take away black votes .He will be taken care of big time later on by the White folks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pamela posted Message 5039 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 08:28:44 Subject: voting machines Does anyone know if we are going to be subjected to the paper-less system in November? If so, we should all vote absentee! Does anyone know where I can find out? Thanks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5040 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 08:39:29 Subject: Re: voting machines With the exception of absentees and write-ins, Hudson County has not used paper ballots for well over a generation (at least). The mechanical tabulators were replaced by electronic devices. Everyone voting in the primary (with the exceptions listed above), used the same electronic voting machines that will be used in this November's general election. : Does anyone know if we are going to be subjected to the paper-less system in November? If so, we should all vote absentee! Does anyone know where I can find out? : Thanks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Insider Info posted Message 5041 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 09:11:25 Subject: Mayoral Election Menendez is supporting Healy, to get control. Harvey to split the black vote. Manzo to just shake things up and to look like a Traitor if Willie gets in the race. The Cheif doesn't have a chance. He know's it. This should be good. If any of these candidates get in Menendez will be in control and Jersey City will go to HELL!!!! Reminder Flood, Schundler, Joe Charles. DEJA VU!! Don't let the machine win. We will be in trouble. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cash In posted Message 5042 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 09:15:31 Subject: Xanadu was Menendez &Kays gravy Train 1.3 billion dollar deal.How could Menendez & kay resist such a deal for themselves.What a great early retirement package for these two love birds.Its good to be head of the HCDO in Hudson County. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Insider Info posted Message 5043 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 09:15:51 Subject: Re: Mayoral Election : Menendez is supporting Healy, to get control. Harvey to split the black vote. Manzo to just shake things up and to look like a Traitor if Willie gets in the race. The Cheif doesn't have a chance. He know's it. This should be good. If any of these candidates except for Willie get in Menendez will be in control and Jersey City will go to HELL!!!! Reminder Flood, Schundler, Joe Charles. DEJA VU!! Don't let the machine win. We will be in trouble. I meant everybody except Willie. She can't be bought. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mayor Smith's Aide posted Message 5044 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 09:21:00 Subject: Extortion Harvey is forcing people to vote for him by hanging their jobs over their head and threatening business owners in his own community to put signs up for him. This is a poor misuse of power. Well you know what they say when you give someone something that they never had the don't know how to use it graciously. I can't stand that ghetto fabulous idiot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Estatic!!!! posted Message 5045 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 09:33:55 Subject: WILLIE FLOOD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes! Yes! Yes!!! She is running!!! Get ready for History again!!! I would pick a clean glass over a dirty one any day!!! I know she will win. She has my support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Which aide...name names! posted Message 5046 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 09:38:01 Subject: Re: Extortion : Harvey is forcing people to vote for him by hanging their jobs over their head and threatening business owners in his own community to put signs up for him. This is a poor misuse of power. Well you know what they say when you give someone something that they never had the don't know how to use it graciously. I can't stand that ghetto fabulous idiot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Smile posted Message 5047 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 09:43:10 Subject: What is Willie going to do?Smile for four years Dumb is as dumb gets.Free us from Willie Flood,Please.UTN at your service. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Plain Label posted Message 5048 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 09:43:33 Subject: Extortion Harvey is forcing people to vote for him by hanging their jobs over their head and threatening business owners in his own community to put signs up for him. This is a poor misuse of power. Well you know what they say when you give someone something that they never had the don't know how to use it graciously. I can't stand that ghetto fabulous idiot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jo Jo posted Message 5049 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 09:50:32 Subject: Re: What is Willie going to do?Smile for four years : Dumb is as dumb gets.Free us from Willie Flood,Please.UTN at your service. Willie is a nice guy but I don't think he could win this race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McGreevey Vote posted Message 5050 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 10:16:36 Subject: Brain dead keep Democrats in Power Jersey City,Newark,Camden, Trenton.New jersey will always be the laughing stock of the Nation. Lack of Education & the teacher Union are like a big black hole in the minds of the city voters.Take me to your leader and tell me who to vote for attitude,must stop.Being dumb is not cool.Menendez is becoming a rich man because of dumbness.Wake up ,its been over two-hundred years.Time to start using your brain for yourself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Duh!!!! posted Message 5051 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 10:18:25 Subject: Re: What is Willie going to do?Smile for four years : : Dumb is as dumb gets.Free us from Willie Flood,Please.UTN at your service. : Willie is a nice guy but I don't think he could win this race. :: Willie is a woman you twit! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Shining a light on stupidity posted Message 5052 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 10:53:02 Subject: Re: What is Willie going to do?Smile for four years What kind of a dumb-ass gets on a board like this and says Willie is a nice "GUY". That is the height of stupidity. Whoever you are....go crawl under a rock. What an insult to those of us who actually know Willie and think she is a classy lady. Mayor-material? I'm not sure. But a very nice person. And definately a WOMAN. : : : Dumb is as dumb gets.Free us from Willie Flood,Please.UTN at your service. : : Willie is a nice guy but I don't think he could win this race. : :: Willie is a woman you twit! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doria,Kenny, Menendez posted Message 5053 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 10:59:33 Subject: Stay out of Bayonne, This is our town and we like it that way.Three Card Monte is our card game so you cant play in it Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gets OK posted Message 5054 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 11:23:06 Subject: Menendez gives DeGise the OK to endorse Healy Isnt that darn nice of Menendez to let DeGise think for himself for once. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerry posted Message 5055 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 12:29:16 Subject: Re: The Link does not work. Hey! : That's the problem with NJ political lobbyist reporting, you will never know exactly who paid what to the lobbists, unlike ELEC campaign reports, despite these lobbyists influencing state govt. : Those are the only corporation she worked on behalf last year you mentioned above. : There is no way of knowing if Menendez steered the business her way on the state side, but it's worth knowing she is also a lobbyist and made an additional $70G on top of what Menendez paid her last year. : One other thing to note, look through Menendez's FEC report and other NJ Congressmen, no one else pays that much out monthly for a fundraiser. : Arguably Menendez has a huge war chest to scare away Rothman's run for US Senate, but does Menendez have those many monthly fundraisers or mail solicitation to warrant those kinds of payment to a "professional fundraiser"? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5056 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 12:38:12 Subject: Joe Doria is the HCDO candidate for State Senator in the 31st District As of today, Joe Doria of Bayonne is officially the HCDO candidate for State Senator in the 31st District. The State Senate seat for the 31st District was held by Glenn Cunningham. After the death of Senator Cunningham, the Democratic Committee for the 31st District elected Joe Doria as interim Senator. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5057 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 13:48:18 Subject: What about Glenn's War Chest? Any word if Glenn Cunningham's campaign funds are to be deployed in this round of the JC Mayor's race? And what about the run for the next 5 years for the State Senate term? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood Gate posted Message 5058 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 14:51:05 Subject: Public Teat Flood She's been on the Public teat for so long and now she is on the outs. Willie has been sniffing around trying to see who will support her. She can't win city wide as a council candidate at large, wht makes you really think she even got a base? She's looking to land where her bed will be best feathered. Another Public Teat job! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood Warning posted Message 5059 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 14:53:14 Subject: Re: WILLIE FLOOD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is as dirty as the rest, just that she's gets their table scraps. One of the biggest racists - Anti White I've ever seen, and no one has even challenged her on some of her comments. Bring her on! ***************** End Of Article ****************** WILLIE, WHAT A NICE GUY posted Message 5060 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 14:56:00 Subject: Re: WILLIE FLOOD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : She is as dirty as the rest, just that she's gets their table scraps. : One of the biggest racists - Anti White I've ever seen, and no one has even challenged her on some of her comments. : Bring her on! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Keep em coming!! posted Message 5061 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 15:16:27 Subject: Re: Public Teat Flood : She's been on the Public teat for so long and now she is on the outs. : Willie has been sniffing around trying to see who will support her. : She can't win city wide as a council candidate at large, wht makes you really think she even got a base? : She's looking to land where her bed will be best feathered. : Another Public Teat job! Yes this is what we want. Keep showing hou simple you are.Do your research first. How many people have these guys helped besides their bosses. If you would rather have Harvey, Jerry ,Lou or Ronnie you give me a better candidate who has the guts, support, and the money to even enter the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So you say posted Message 5062 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 15:16:33 Subject: Re: WILLIE FLOOD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::Racist? My family and I have known Willie and the Flood Family for more than 30 years. Been to Births, Deaths, Weddings. We are about as white as this page and consider them among our closest friends. I am wondering who the real racist is. : One of the biggest racists - Anti White I've ever seen, and no one has even challenged her on some of her comments. : Bring her on! ***************** End Of Article ****************** R U SERIOUS??? posted Message 5063 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 15:17:48 Subject: Re: WILLIE FLOOD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : : She is as dirty as the rest, just that she's gets their table scraps. : : One of the biggest racists - Anti White I've ever seen, and no one has even challenged her on some of her comments. : : Bring her on! I am not even gonna reply to that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood,Jr. posted Message 5064 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 15:25:09 Subject: Re: What is Willie going to do?Smile for four years : Dumb is as dumb gets.Free us from Willie Flood,Please.UTN at your service. We will see in November!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter posted Message 5065 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 15:27:12 Subject: Re: WILLIE FLOOD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : : : She is as dirty as the rest, just that she's gets their table scraps. : : : One of the biggest racists - Anti White I've ever seen, and no one has even challenged her on some of her comments. : : : Bring her on! : I am not even gonna reply to that. Run Willie Run!!! We are behind you!! No matter what they say we know you are the best candidate and you aren't on anyone's payroll. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MoneyTree posted Message 5066 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 15:44:29 Subject: Healy all for Menendez making money Off Xanadu Kay only trying to make a few Million Quick.What is wrong with that.When I am Mayor maybe i can help them out too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** We're with you Willie!!!!!!! posted Message 5067 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 15:50:37 Subject: Mrs. Mayor I hope she wins too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Courage posted Message 5068 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 15:53:33 Subject: Skeletons I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward F peps posted Message 5069 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 15:58:06 Subject: Re: WILLIE FLOOD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you kidding me? Willie Flood mayor? Yeah right! She has no Organization to speak of, no money, no backers with money. If she has you believing she's going to win or even run an effective campaign then you have all been hoodwinked. is she going to run on all the love she brings to people? Let's all get together for a group hug now? Why is she more qualified to run instead of being a county lackie? Willie is looking for a deal. PERIOD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood Warning posted Message 5070 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 16:05:54 Subject: Gift Bloat Vets for Truth Lets' see ...attack the messenger, then the other candidates then boast how good your candidate is without being specific as to what she brings to the table or why she is more uniquely qualified but deny the charge just indicate Willie is not on as Big a Teat then the rest. Who did you say was simple? Willie doesn't know how to survive with being on a public payroll. : Yes this is what we want. Keep showing hou simple you are.Do your research first. How many people have these guys helped besides their bosses. If you would rather have Harvey, Jerry ,Lou or Ronnie you give me a better candidate who has the guts, support, and the money to even enter the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lets re-trace his steps that evening..one by one, you go first.. posted Message 5071 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 16:08:49 Subject: Re: Skeletons : I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lets re-trace his steps that evening..one by one, you go first.. posted Message 5071 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 16:08:53 Subject: Re: Skeletons : I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHACHA posted Message 5072 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 17:16:08 Subject: Re: Skeletons : : I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! You mean murdered as in someone else killed him.. I do not think so the story goes like this he was with his first cousin a female making love after having consumed a controlled substance the kind one might smoke. He had a heart attack and so did his cousin, she was in the hospital at the same time. It was also rumored that Ayala was his friend in the intimate sense. These are all meaningless now since his work was cut short because of this activity. Also Bobby of the Urban Times News recieves $500,000 per month in consulting payments because of the access Glenn provided to him. What he consults on I do not know. In addition to all this the Mayor's widow si acting strange and out of touch. The biggest political mistake Glenn made was Ayala he was mean and nasty to people and created poor relations for Glenn with HCDO Bobby of the Urban Times News also assisted in driving a wedge between Glenn and the HCDO. The problem with all this is Bobby and Ayala made out and Glenn suffered he needed the HCDO to achieve his goals of progress. Selfish people like Bobby and Ayala killed Glenn they created pressure beyond what a normal man could stand. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5073 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 17:25:55 Subject: Healy the best Man for the job Jerry is an honest, considerate man who has been an outstanding role model for many young Americans. Safer Streets and lower taxes. God Bless Jerry Healy ! HEALY FOR MAYOR IN NOVEMBER 04 AND IN MAY 05 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHACHA posted Message 5074 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 17:29:37 Subject: Re: Xanadu was Menendez &Kays gravy Train : 1.3 billion dollar deal.How could Menendez & kay resist such a deal for themselves.What a great early retirement package for these two love birds.Its good to be head of the HCDO in Hudson County. Mack/Cali is a DC firm and isn't funny that Elliot Spitzer turned up the heat on the Sterns as they where fighting the corruption of Mack/cali as facilitated by Klick and Menendude. ***************** End Of Article ****************** OMG! posted Message 5075 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 17:32:05 Subject: Re: Skeletons I'm speechless! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHACHA posted Message 5076 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 17:35:27 Subject: Manny Stern lost Xanadu because he failed to payoff Kay and Menedude Manny Stern failed to payoff the Klick Menedude organization. Strange but the Donald had no hand in this. Klick and Menedude worked the scam themselves. In addition when it look as if the Stern's legal action for a review was making headway the tide was turned Eddie got snared by Elliot Spitzer. Funny how a billion plus real estate deal will churn the pot. The real tool in the scam jon Klick and Menedude pulled off is Zoffinger. Does anyone know where the bodies are hidden in the deal when it comes to his take. Zoffinger is the mastermind behind the operational take down of a in state real estate developer for a DC based firm. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHACHA posted Message 5077 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 17:38:59 Subject: Re: Skeletons : I'm speechless! I thought this was common knowledge seems everybody knows this just like everybody knew about Menedude and the Donald going to war over Klicks payoffs. Say what you will about the Donald the guy always put the Party first even when it came to Glenn he tried to be the peacemaker. between Menedude, Bobby of the UTN, and Ayala their greed kept anything from happening. The Mayor's widow is the one who suffered she tolerated his behavior and remained loyal. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TTM NOW! posted Message 5078 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 17:39:02 Subject: CHACHA : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** OMG posted Message 5079 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 17:41:31 Subject: Re: Skeletons We need to talk! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHACHA posted Message 5080 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 17:46:12 Subject: Re: CHACHA : : ) My guess is TTM means get off the board? or Talk to Me ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHACHA posted Message 5081 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 17:52:42 Subject: The night the Govenor went to the hospital One night last fall the Govenor happen to run up against some rough trade in a rest room facility on the Jersey Turnpike. He was taken to the hospital in Jersey City and the paperwork was removed. Groveling for truckers ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHACHA posted Message 5082 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 17:56:19 Subject: Smacker and the smackee Groveling Govenor likes to dish out the punishment in private. The truth be known when confronted with big strong men he takes a whipping and keeps on ticking. But when presented with a weaker person he is the aggressor with some serious side effects like broken bones and cuts. Groveling Govenor is a mean person and that has in many situations hurt people physically. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHACHA posted Message 5083 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 17:57:32 Subject: Ayala was a long haul truck drive guess how he got to know the Govenor? Ayala was a long haul truck drive guess how he got to know the Govenor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** lets talk more about that night Glenn died. posted Message 5084 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 18:16:51 Subject: TTM Which cousin? How did he get to the hospital? If he was doing a controlled substance (that I doubt) wouldn't it have come out in the lab work or the autopsy? ***************** End Of Article ****************** lets talk more about that night Glenn died. posted Message 5085 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 18:17:15 Subject: TTM Which cousin? How did he get to the hospital? If he was doing a controlled substance (that I doubt) wouldn't it have came out in the lab work or the autopsy? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5086 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 18:51:34 Subject: Online Audio: Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone of the 31st District To hear the Online Audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** now back to the night Glen died! posted Message 5087 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 19:21:34 Subject: Who gives a rats azz about Chiappone..... : To hear the Online Audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another affair posted Message 5088 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 19:55:57 Subject: Re: Gift Bloat Vets for Truth Is the married Flood still running around with the so called "Minister"? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good guy- too bad he's not running in JC! posted Message 5089 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 20:22:37 Subject: Re: Who gives a rats azz about Chiappone..... : : To hear the Online Audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Too Many Connect a Dots posted Message 5090 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 21:38:56 Subject: FEDS Investigate Kay & Bob Federal Investigators are connecting all the Menendez and KL Strageties Financial Scam Dots .......... INCLUDING MENENDEZ & KAYS RELATIONSHIP TO XANADU !!!! Lots of Splaining to do.............. Boss Bobalou ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Kay Scams posted Message 5091 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 21:43:35 Subject: Don't Forget Mack Cali Kay also has mega buck contracts with developer Mack - Cali !!!! : Toll Brothers , GoldmanSachs , First Energy, Convicted Briber Joe Barry's Applied Companies, Stevens Institue, Royal Carribean, XANADU amd many many more. : Oh What a tangled web we weave. Why are they all giving KL Strategies so much money ??????? : : KL Strategies has contract with Xanadu worth over $ 800,000.00 Not bad for a ONE PERSON PR FIRM operating out of a postal mail drop. : : US ATTORNEY PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS ***************** End Of Article ****************** EYE SPY posted Message 5092 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 25, 2004 at 23:07:52 Subject: Re: Ayala was a long haul truck drive guess how he got to know the Govenor? He met him at a truck stop on the NJTPK. We all knew it was a "hang out" for those "happy" guys. Betcha he's back on the road again cause there sure ain't anybody around here that wants to see his sorry face. Looks like even Sandy C has sent him packing. What a jerrk to hang his hat on the promise of one politician's future. Sorry about what happened to Glenn, but no tears for that jerrk Ayala. : Ayala was a long haul truck drive guess how he got to know the Govenor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** O come on can this be true....how were they able to cover this up? posted Message 5093 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 00:09:09 Subject: Re: Skeletons : : I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** why r my post doubling ? posted Message 5094 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 00:09:55 Subject: Re: Skeletons : : : I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** This is funny .....must be the C.I.A. posted Message 5095 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 00:10:38 Subject: Re: Skeletons : : : : I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** testing testing 123 posted Message 5096 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 00:11:41 Subject: this is only a test if this was real..................... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nick F posted Message 5097 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 00:35:54 Subject: Buonocore OK Buoncore doesn't live in Jersey City He voted out of his Sussex County Address as of Nov 2003. Ownes no homes in Jersey City, nor in Hudson County, Hasn't voted in Hudson County for years. Why the hell is he running, he's not even qualified! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5098 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 07:24:53 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Xanadu treasure chest posted Message 5099 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 07:53:59 Subject: Menendez &Kay will sail off into the sunset The HCDO just adores these two money makers.They hope some day when they grow up they can be just like them.This Group includes Doria, Kenny, Sires, Vega,Gaughan, DeGise and all their lackeys.They will tell you who to vote for in the Jersey City Mayoral race so they can get a good start on catching up to Menendez &Kay L.Xanadu corruption scam. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie Flood empty headed posted Message 5100 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 08:15:59 Subject: Harvey Smith much smarter then Willie That is really saying something.Its your choice Ward F.Vote for Dumb Or Dumber. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Welcome to HCDO posted Message 5101 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 08:45:36 Subject: When Karen DeSoto wins Senate Seat in 31st over Doria The first one to call Karen afer the election will be Senator "ALL Sides "Kenny.He will tell kAREN ,"I KNEW YOU WOULD WIN"."WELCOME TO THE HCDO FAMILY."Karen,I HOPE YOU DONT FALL FOR THIS CRAP. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Welcome to HCDO posted Message 5102 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 08:45:50 Subject: When Karen DeSoto wins Senate Seat in 31st over Doria The first one to call Karen afer the election will be Senator "ALL Sides "Kenny.He will tell kAREN ,"I KNEW YOU WOULD WIN"."WELCOME TO THE HCDO FAMILY."Karen,I HOPE YOU DONT FALL FOR THIS CRAP. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5103 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 08:52:21 Subject: Re: Harvey Smith much smarter then Willie Do you have any proof to back up that my mother is dumb? Or are you just another hater just wanting something to say? Just a hater . I know. I know you are mad she is gonna win. You are a coward hiding behind an alias. Be a man and say your name. Mine is here. : That is really saying something.Its your choice Ward F.Vote for Dumb Or Dumber. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Courage posted Message 5104 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 08:56:19 Subject: Re: Skeletons : : : I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! : You mean murdered as in someone else killed him.. I do not think so the story goes like this he was with his first cousin a female making love after having consumed a controlled substance the kind one might smoke. He had a heart attack and so did his cousin, she was in the hospital at the same time. It was also rumored that Ayala was his friend in the intimate sense. These are all meaningless now since his work was cut short because of this activity. Also Bobby of the Urban Times News recieves $500,000 per month in consulting payments because of the access Glenn provided to him. What he consults on I do not know. In addition to all this the Mayor's widow si acting strange and out of touch. The biggest political mistake Glenn made was Ayala he was mean and nasty to people and created poor relations for Glenn with HCDO Bobby of the Urban Times News also assisted in driving a wedge between Glenn and the HCDO. The problem with all this is Bobby and Ayala made out and Glenn suffered he needed the HCDO to achieve his goals of progress. Selfish people like Bobby and Ayala killed Glenn they created pressure beyond what a normal man could stand. I don't buy it. Say what u want but the motives are clear. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5104 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 08:56:20 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Courage posted Message 5105 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 09:01:46 Subject: Re: Skeletons : I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! \ You know the funny thing? Whenever I put this up it strikes a nerve in alot of people. Know why? It's true. The motives are clear. This is big business. People weren't getting contracts and a black man went into a white man's backyard and took his job and his pride. That means something. That power hungry bastit Menendez is the puppetmaster behind all this. Just so happens the Gov. got called out and has to leave office. So guess who can get the seat or give it to one of his lackies. We know why they killed Glenn. It wasn't Bobby, Joe, or Bill it was HDCO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5106 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 09:06:37 Subject: Re: WILLIE FLOOD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : Are you kidding me? : Willie Flood mayor? Yeah right! : She has no Organization to speak of, no money, no backers with money. : If she has you believing she's going to win or even run an effective campaign then you have all been hoodwinked. : is she going to run on all the love she brings to people? Let's all get together for a group hug now? Why is she more qualified to run instead of being a county lackie? : Willie is looking for a deal. PERIOD! Do you really think she needs this job? She can retire right now and live well in Miami somewhere. But she loves this city so much and we don't want to see it go back the way it was. Believe me she dosen't need anything. I have money and so does my father so what are you saying coward? Just wait till November. You will eat these words.!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Courage posted Message 5107 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 09:08:47 Subject: Re: Harvey Smith much smarter then Willie : That is really saying something.Its your choice Ward F.Vote for Dumb Or Dumber. She has more brains than Harvey's dumb as.s will ever have.He is a stone cold idiot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another Free Lunch posted Message 5108 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 09:13:22 Subject: Hmmmmm Was that Marie Touro seen with Ron Buonocore pressing the flesh last night in Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood,Jr posted Message 5109 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 09:15:05 Subject: Re: Gift Bloat Vets for Truth Are you retarted? What? Public payroll? That's peanuts. She dosen't need those scraps. That's not even important. Stick to the issues. Instead of giving alot of lip service. : Lets' see ...attack the messenger, then the other candidates then boast how good your candidate is without being specific as to what she brings to the table or why she is more uniquely qualified but deny the charge just indicate Willie is not on as Big a Teat then the rest. : Who did you say was simple? : Willie doesn't know how to survive with being on a public payroll. : : Yes this is what we want. Keep showing hou simple you are.Do your research first. How many people have these guys helped besides their bosses. If you would rather have Harvey, Jerry ,Lou or Ronnie you give me a better candidate who has the guts, support, and the money to even enter the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood,Jr posted Message 5110 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 09:17:01 Subject: Re: Gift Bloat Vets for Truth Now see this is the lowest one I have seen yet. My mother has never done anything like that. Are you stupid? Shut up!!!! : Is the married Flood still running around with the so called "Minister"? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5111 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 09:20:25 Subject: WILLIE FLOOD for MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No message. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie Flood and the council agenda posted Message 5112 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 09:26:53 Subject: Bobby Jackson had to read it for up When she was on the council.She didnt have a clue to what was going on.Bobby Jackson had to tell herv how to vote.All she would do is sit up there and smile.A very sad day for Jersey city DURNING THIS time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** It was a good year-2004 posted Message 5113 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 09:40:31 Subject: How much has Kay L made so far in 2004 Congressman Menendez Sure is the number one sugar Daddy in the USA.Maybe you can be the next one for Porky Pig to take care of.Only in America. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Total BS posted Message 5114 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:13:56 Subject: Re: Bobby Jackson had to read it for up Willie Flood was an excellent representative for her community. During her time on the City Council she was always well informed and prepared for Council Meetings. Whoever wrote the previous message obviously doesn't know Willie and has no clue about her intelligence and professionalism. : When she was on the council.She didnt have a clue to what was going on. Bobby Jackson had to tell herv how to vote.All she would do is sit up there and smile.A very sad day for Jersey city DURNING THIS time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5115 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:13:57 Subject: Re: WILLIE FLOOD for MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : No message. He is a nice guy but not suited to be mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5116 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:25:32 Subject: Re: Bobby Jackson had to read it for up There are methods to her madness!! Is that the only bad thing you can say about her? She smiles? What's wrong with that? You people are so stupid. Now if you don't want to vote for her because she smiles then so be it. Then you need to look at yourself. Do you love yourself or hate my mother because she is a nice person. : When she was on the council.She didnt have a clue to what was going on.Bobby Jackson had to tell herv how to vote.All she would do is sit up there and smile.A very sad day for Jersey city DURNING THIS time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood,Jr. posted Message 5117 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:31:27 Subject: Re: WILLIE FLOOD for MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mr. Dolan I don't know if you are being facetious or you are just ignorant to the fact that Willie Flood is a woman. A brilliant one at that. : : No message. : He is a nice guy but not suited to be mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Courage posted Message 5118 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:35:33 Subject: Re: How much has Kay L made so far in 2004 Oh don't worry his time is coming too. He screwed everybody he came across to get where he is. But when the tables turn (and they WILL turn) he will see how it feels to be betrayed and prosecuted. What goes around comes around. And Congressman it is just around the corner. Lets not forget He is a homo too. : Congressman Menendez Sure is the number one sugar Daddy in the USA.Maybe you can be the next one for Porky Pig to take care of.Only in America. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not so smart posted Message 5119 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:36:42 Subject: If Willie is so smart.Why is part of the UTN gang Easy money through extortion could be the answer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Can't Wait posted Message 5120 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:39:13 Subject: Indict Menendez Money Scam Sooner rather than later ...........EVERYONE wants JUSTICE TO PREVAIL. : Oh don't worry his time is coming too. He screwed everybody he came across to get where he is. But when the tables turn (and they WILL turn) he will see how it feels to be betrayed and prosecuted. What goes around comes around. And Congressman it is just around the corner. Lets not forget He is a homo too. : : : Congressman Menendez Sure is the number one sugar Daddy in the USA.Maybe you can be the next one for Porky Pig to take care of.Only in America. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Courage posted Message 5121 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:42:12 Subject: Harvey is Threatening people to support him!!!!!1 I don't want someone like that in office. This isn't Cuba!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood,Jr. posted Message 5122 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:45:35 Subject: Re: If Willie is so smart.Why is part of the UTN gang Plain and simple we have our own money. My mom and Mr. Jackson must be a real threat to the machine. That's the only thing you could think up? Come on think harder. Genious!! Wow you are really smart!! That was an oxymoron. Or youareamoron. Take your pick. : Easy money through extortion could be the answer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dloan posted Message 5123 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:48:59 Subject: Re: WILLIE FLOOD for MAYOR! NOT ! Mr. Flood it doesn't make a difference Healy will be the mayor and all the Cunningham people will be out. : Mr. Dolan I don't know if you are being facetious or you are just ignorant to the fact that Willie Flood is a woman. A brilliant one at that. : : : : No message. : : He is a nice guy but not suited to be mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood,Jr. posted Message 5124 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:49:35 Subject: Re: If Willie is so smart.Why is part of the UTN gang One more thing don't let your guilty ways be put on someone else. you are just saying what u would do if you had the oppourtunity. My mother has never accepted ANYTHING under the table from ANYBODY. Check the Jersey Journal archives. If she did it would be there. You know how they like to slam blacks. : Plain and simple we have our own money. My mom and Mr. Jackson must be a real threat to the machine. That's the only thing you could think up? Come on think harder. Genious!! Wow you are really smart!! That was an oxymoron. Or youareamoron. Take your pick. : : Easy money through extortion could be the answer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Half Wit posted Message 5125 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:50:32 Subject: Harvey said if Willie had half a brain.She be a Half wit.she v Makes sense to me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5126 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:54:13 Subject: Re: No threat at all Healy, Degise and Gaughan can't be stopped. Smith , Manzo, Buonocore, Etc. will be crushed by Healy in a landslide victory. Healy for Mayor ! : Plain and simple we have our own money. My mom and Mr. Jackson must be a real threat to the machine. That's the only thing you could think up? Come on think harder. Genious!! Wow you are really smart!! That was an oxymoron. Or youareamoron. Take your pick. : : Easy money through extortion could be the answer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood,Jr. posted Message 5127 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:54:33 Subject: Re: WILLIE FLOOD for MAYOR! NOT ! You sound upset. Mr. Dolan the best candidate WILL win. You sir sound like a racist. Cunningham people. HUH!! Glenn was the best thing for this city.And the people spoke and showed it. My mother fought and stood behind Glenn on everything. So she has the same views. How much is Jerry paying you? Or did he promise you a job? Or are you working for the Congressman? What is it? : Mr. Flood it doesn't make a difference Healy will be the mayor and all the Cunningham people will be out. : Mr. Dolan I don't know if you are being facetious or you are just ignorant to the fact that Willie Flood is a woman. A brilliant one at that. : : : : : : No message. : : : He is a nice guy but not suited to be mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doria endorses Harvey Smith posted Message 5128 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:58:35 Subject: So much for Willie Flood God acts in strange ways.Good bye Willie. See YA. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5129 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 10:59:09 Subject: Re: Harvey said if Willie had half a brain.She be a Half wit.she v Here we go again. We have another coward who is illiterate. That is the only thing you can say about her. If that's true then I know we will win!!!! Harvey is the Biggest idiot on the planet. The seniors on Ocean ave threw him out of the building. He got booed at Snyder. He can't even walk the streets because people HATE him. Say what you want just spell her name right. WILLIE L. FLOOD. We shall overcome!!!!!!!! Power to the people!!!! Not HCDO!!! : Makes sense to me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood,Jr. posted Message 5130 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:01:29 Subject: Re: So much for Willie Flood You are right. What does Doria's endorsement prove? He lost to a black man in his own City. He is weak!!! Just like Harvey. You will eat those words!!! Willie Willie Willie!!!! : God acts in strange ways.Good bye Willie. See YA. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Courage posted Message 5131 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:02:46 Subject: Re: So much for Willie Flood So what. Those guys are probally sleeping together too. : God acts in strange ways.Good bye Willie. See YA. ***************** End Of Article ****************** God Bless Her posted Message 5132 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:11:28 Subject: Willie Is a Lovely Lady Willie is a lovely lady. Pay no attention to the animals that post on this board. God Bless Willie. : One more thing don't let your guilty ways be put on someone else. you are just saying what u would do if you had the oppourtunity. My mother has never accepted ANYTHING under the table from ANYBODY. Check the Jersey Journal archives. If she did it would be there. You know how they like to slam blacks. : : : Plain and simple we have our own money. My mom and Mr. Jackson must be a real threat to the machine. That's the only thing you could think up? Come on think harder. Genious!! Wow you are really smart!! That was an oxymoron. Or youareamoron. Take your pick. : : : : Easy money through extortion could be the answer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ride Harvey to victory posted Message 5133 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:11:44 Subject: Menendez ,Doria & Kenny will ride Smith to Victory HCDO will rule Jersey City for a long time to come.Join us and share in the boundy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven posted Message 5134 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:14:31 Subject: Insane GW Fanpage Can this guy be for real? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood,Jr. posted Message 5135 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:29:16 Subject: Re: Menendez ,Doria & Kenny will ride Smith to Victory See what I mean? They want rule Jersey City not help it. : HCDO will rule Jersey City for a long time to come.Join us and share in the boundy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** This one is on me posted Message 5136 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:31:29 Subject: Will there be a drink -off between Healy &Manzo? If so ,at what Jersey City Bar?Have a Xanadu on me WITH YOUR DRINKS BOYS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Courage posted Message 5137 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:36:18 Subject: Re: Healy the best Man for the job Yeah on the waterfront and the Heights. What about the rest of the City? You forgot to mention that he is a puppet too. : Jerry is an honest, considerate man who has been an outstanding : role model for many young Americans. Safer Streets and lower taxes. God Bless Jerry Healy ! : HEALY FOR MAYOR IN NOVEMBER 04 AND IN MAY 05 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5138 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:37:52 Subject: God bless Willie !! Thank you for running Willie. I've had so many good laughs reading the posts dissing you on this board. May you run for every office in the City and County so we all can continue to dump on you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO Indictments posted Message 5139 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:38:30 Subject: All Three WIll Ride In Same Paddy Wagon The HCDO is GOING BYE BYE ........ HCDO will rule Jersey City for a long time to come.Join us and share in the boundy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Courage posted Message 5140 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:40:46 Subject: Re: No threat at all You just named three of the biggest racists in the county. That shows who you are J. Dolan. Biggot!! : : Healy, Degise and Gaughan can't be stopped. Smith , Manzo, Buonocore, Etc. will be crushed by Healy in a landslide victory. : Healy for Mayor ! : : : Plain and simple we have our own money. My mom and Mr. Jackson must be a real threat to the machine. That's the only thing you could think up? Come on think harder. Genious!! Wow you are really smart!! That was an oxymoron. Or youareamoron. Take your pick. : : : : Easy money through extortion could be the answer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandra Cunningham posted Message 5141 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:42:49 Subject: Sandra thinks so much of Willie,She endorsed A white mans Who doesnt even live in Jersey city. What say,flood JR.? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5142 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:44:58 Subject: Re: God bless Willie !! First of all you are committing blasphemy. How credible are you? Imitating a man of the cloth. Then hoping someone fails. You are sick. And need help. Dump on her all you want she will still be MAYOR. And you will still be a nobody. You can't even say your name. Coward!!! : Thank you for running Willie. I've had so many good laughs reading the posts dissing you on this board. May you run for every office in the City and County so we all can continue to dump on you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5143 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:48:28 Subject: Sandy is her own Woman. I would never disrespect Sandy. She has always been nice to me. I don't agree with her decisions but she will have to live with them. I know for a fact that Glenn is looking down holding his head sighing though. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Courage posted Message 5144 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:50:17 Subject: Re: All Three WIll Ride In Same Paddy Wagon That's the sound of the men working on the chain gaaayeang!! LOL : The HCDO is GOING BYE BYE ........ : : HCDO will rule Jersey City for a long time to come.Join us and share in the boundy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** To Know One posted Message 5145 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:51:29 Subject: He Should Know, It Takes One :Re: Harvey said if Willie had half a brain.She be a Half wit. Makes sense to me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Abbot and Costello posted Message 5146 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:52:32 Subject: Picture Smith and Doria together : God acts in strange ways.Good bye Willie. See YA. ***************** End Of Article ****************** New City Hall posted Message 5147 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:53:54 Subject: When Healy is elected Mayor-Astor Bar will be new city Hall Why waste time riding back and forth..This will be a money saver for Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steamboat Willie posted Message 5148 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:55:31 Subject: Phil Flood Phil, Mom still running around with the minister? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr posted Message 5149 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:58:07 Subject: Re: God bless Willie !! God will bless her!!!!! : First of all you are committing blasphemy. How credible are you? Imitating a man of the cloth. Then hoping someone fails. You are sick. And need help. Dump on her all you want she will still be MAYOR. And you will still be a nobody. You can't even say your name. Coward!!! : : : Thank you for running Willie. I've had so many good laughs reading the posts dissing you on this board. May you run for every office in the City and County so we all can continue to dump on you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tooth Fairy the Easter Bunny posted Message 5150 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 11:58:33 Subject: Re: Sandy is her own Woman. I seriously doubt that, he's looking up. Now comeback to reality and return from Land of Make Believe. "I know for a fact that Glenn is looking down holding his head sighing though." ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5151 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 12:01:23 Subject: Re: God bless Willie !! God bless him ! : God will bless her!!!!! : : First of all you are committing blasphemy. How credible are you? Imitating a man of the cloth. Then hoping someone fails. You are sick. And need help. Dump on her all you want she will still be MAYOR. And you will still be a nobody. You can't even say your name. Coward!!! : : : : : Thank you for running Willie. I've had so many good laughs reading the posts dissing you on this board. May you run for every office in the City and County so we all can continue to dump on you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr posted Message 5152 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 12:06:30 Subject: Re: Sandy is her own Woman. You are the one in La LA land. If you think for one second that Glenn would have condoned this bullshti you are sadly mistaken. He is rolling around in his grave. Poor man. It's all about loyalty. She was Glenn's wife and confidant. So how could she go against the very people who fought tooth and nail with Glenn? I feel cheated. But like I said before she is her own woman and she has a right to make her own decisions. : I seriously doubt that, he's looking up. Now comeback to reality and return from Land of Make Believe. : : "I know for a fact that Glenn is looking down holding his head sighing though." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Buoncore for Mayor of Sussex County posted Message 5153 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 12:07:00 Subject: Buonocore was lost He was trying to find his way home to Sussex County and find out why he never voted in Jersey City! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood,Jr. posted Message 5154 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 12:10:16 Subject: Re: God bless Willie !! Look Dolan. You are a disrespectful bast.ard. I'm not even gonna reply to you anymore because obviously you aren't very bright. A cave man from the mountains and I will not waste my time anymore. Call her what u want just call her Mrs Mayor in November. : God bless him ! : : : God will bless her!!!!! : : : : First of all you are committing blasphemy. How credible are you? Imitating a man of the cloth. Then hoping someone fails. You are sick. And need help. Dump on her all you want she will still be MAYOR. And you will still be a nobody. You can't even say your name. Coward!!! : : : : : : : Thank you for running Willie. I've had so many good laughs reading the posts dissing you on this board. May you run for every office in the City and County so we all can continue to dump on you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr posted Message 5155 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 12:12:46 Subject: Re: Phil Flood What do you mean by that sir? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5156 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 12:14:02 Subject: Re: Phil Flood Grow Up. Stick to the important issues. Moron!! : Phil, Mom still running around with the minister? ***************** End Of Article ****************** IF Buonocore can run posted Message 5157 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 12:22:26 Subject: Then Tom Gaynor should be allowed to run too. What is fair is fair.Avon -By -The -Sea Doesnt need him ,we do. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So True posted Message 5158 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 12:24:59 Subject: Sandy is simply wrong The shame of this whole debacle is that Sandy is a good-hearted woman who for the most part has been independent-minded. But in her grief and at her most vulnerable, she is being used by those who have found themselves tossed out of government like yesterday's trash. Ron Bon....give me a break. Bobby-Joe....really people are these the kind of people who make you think of words like ... respect, visionary, community minded? I doubt it. They make you think of words like opportunist, greedy, self-interested, and money-grubbing. And the shame of it is that the actions Sandy takes today will be the punctuation on Glenn's legacy. People will forget what he did and tried to do, but they will always remember the widow who let herself be drawn into a dirty political brawl instead of taking the high road. That's a shame, because Glenn deserved a better legacy than the one those around him...who called him "friend" will leave him in the end. : I would never disrespect Sandy. She has always been nice to me. I don't agree with her decisions but she will have to live with them. I know for a fact that Glenn is looking down holding his head sighing though. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Philmeister posted Message 5159 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 12:28:45 Subject: Glenn is looking up Phil, it's not not La La Land, It's Land of Make Believe, the world where Glenn looks down at his peps, Willie is mayor and you are a sane individual! Sandra is in it for the glroy and the ride, just talk to anybody in the HC Bar Assn. She often thought the people elected her to rule. : You are the one in La LA land. If you think for one second that Glenn would have condoned this bullshti you are sadly mistaken. He is rolling around in his grave. Poor man. It's all about loyalty. She was Glenn's wife and confidant. So how could she go against the very people who fought tooth and nail with Glenn? I feel cheated. But like I said before she is her own woman and she has a right to make her own decisions. : : : I seriously doubt that, he's looking up. Now comeback to reality and return from Land of Make Believe. : : : : "I know for a fact that Glenn is looking down holding his head sighing though." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cookie Monster posted Message 5160 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 12:31:15 Subject: Flood hazard Phil, here is a cookie, now go play nice ***************** End Of Article ****************** DRINK-A-Tron posted Message 5161 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 12:53:34 Subject: The one who can drink the most beers should be Mayor Jersey City is the proper place for this sort of a election.i am sure the Jersey city Taxpayers would love it.They fall for everything else.Xanadu.> ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood Hazard posted Message 5162 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 12:58:36 Subject: Willie & The Minister!!!!! So I take that to mean it is true, BTW how is your mom's vacation going? Grow Up. Stick to the important issues. Moron!! : : : Phil, Mom still running around with the minister? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood Hazard posted Message 5163 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 13:01:51 Subject: WILLIE is looking for a deal Willie is only posturing looking for the best deal. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 1984 posted Message 5164 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 13:03:22 Subject: Re: Phil Flood : What do you mean by that sir? Big Brother is watching ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCann Watch posted Message 5165 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 13:09:07 Subject: Remember the Good Old days When outgoing mayors would uri nate on the rugs in the mayor's office, destroy files and superglue the locks to door in city hall before he had to leave office? Gee where are they now??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hoboken's Shipyard - Saturday Night posted Message 5166 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 13:24:01 Subject: Menendez Called Cops Boss Menendez was forced to call the Hoboken Police this past Saturday Night when he found a can of garbage dumped on top of his car. While visiting his "lady friend " Kay - owner of KL Strategies -at her luxury penthouse in Convicte Briber's Joe Barry Waterfront Developement - BTW Kay's apt is on the 11th floor. SOMEONE DUMPED a can of trash all over Menendez's car -- HOW APPROPIATE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5167 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 13:24:32 Subject: Flood & UTN Crime Family In Reply to: Re: No threat at all posted by J Dolan on August 26, 2004 at 10:54:13: You just named three of the biggest racists in the county. That shows who you are J. Dolan ! It just goes to show the racism that exists in the African American Area toward everyone except African Americans. Healy, Degise and Gaughan have represented this city well over the years and are men with integrity. Don't play the race card because you are going to lose power in Jersey City. Glenn would not have done that. He would have lost his bid for mayor this time around anyway. HEALY FOR MAYOR NOV 04 AND MAY 05 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BB KING posted Message 5168 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 13:31:06 Subject: Re: Sandy is her own Woman. SANDY OUT OF TOWN RACIST JUST LIKE BONOCORE. . : You are the one in La LA land. If you think for one second that Glenn would have condoned this bullshti you are sadly mistaken. He is rolling around in his grave. Poor man. It's all about loyalty. She was Glenn's wife and confidant. So how could she go against the very people who fought tooth and nail with Glenn? I feel cheated. But like I said before she is her own woman and she has a right to make her own decisions. : : : I seriously doubt that, he's looking up. Now comeback to reality and return from Land of Make Believe. : : : : "I know for a fact that Glenn is looking down holding his head sighing though." ***************** End Of Article ****************** .. posted Message 5169 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 13:36:22 Subject: Re: Will there be a drink -off between Healy &Manzo? : If so ,at what Jersey City Bar?Have a Xanadu on me WITH YOUR DRINKS BOYS. Willie would win , he could really put em away. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Xanadu-Do--Do-Do posted Message 5170 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 13:59:31 Subject: Menendez SINGS THAT SONG EVERYWHERE HE GOES I would too if i was him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Xanadu Money posted Message 5171 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 14:20:42 Subject: Re: Menendez Called Cops : Boss Menendez was forced to call the Hoboken Police this past Saturday Night when he found a can of garbage dumped on top of his car. : While visiting his "lady friend " Kay - owner of KL Strategies -at her luxury penthouse in Convicte Briber's Joe Barry Waterfront Developement - BTW Kay's apt is on the 11th floor. : SOMEONE DUMPED a can of trash all over Menendez's car -- HOW APPROPIATE. Are YOU SURE IT WASNT XANADU MONEY INSTEAD OF GARBAGE? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Auld lang syne posted Message 5172 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 15:05:09 Subject: Merry Dayze McCann in NYC : Back in the first round when he was mayor was Gerry ever like an overnight guest of the city of New York? It's like ancient history but the rumor was that with a snootful of the best that Scotland has to offer, Gerry attempted to get shall we say a little better than a first name basis with a waitress. Not impressed that he was a CPA, the young lady refused. and some sort of turmoil ensued. Enter stage left the NYC police. Story goes that then NYC Mayor Ed Koch was brought in for the final call. Seems that the pretty Miss insisted on pressing charges. Koch agreed with her that no pity should be wasted on Gerry, but think of his wife and the people of Jersey City. They've got to put up with the guy every day. Do you want that they should have to bear even yet more suffering. Staggered at the thought of a daily dose of McCann, she agreed to just forget about the whole thing. It ended with Gerry being treated to a supervised slumber and a ride home the next day. : When outgoing mayors would uri nate on the rugs in the mayor's office, destroy files and superglue the locks to door in city hall before he had to leave office? : Gee where are they now??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5173 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 15:10:46 Subject: Re: WILLIE is looking for a deal : Willie is only posturing looking for the best deal. What deal is he looking for . ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5174 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 15:16:24 Subject: Re: Phil Flood : : What do you mean by that sir? : : Big Brother is watching Why didn't Willie tell me he had a brother ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5175 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 15:33:58 Subject: Re: Say hey Willie I am first a caucasian and second a city worker and I guess I'll be fired if Willie Flood ever became mayor(NOT). I can't believe the hatred for the caucasians by some of the African American community in this city. I am not a caveman or bastard and I may not be that bright but I guess we all look a like to you. Have a nice day JACKAZ. : Look Dolan. You are a disrespectful bast.ard. I'm not even gonna reply to you anymore because obviously you aren't very bright. A cave man from the mountains and I will not waste my time anymore. Call her what u want just call her Mrs Mayor in November. : : : God bless him ! : : : : : God will bless her!!!!! : : : : : : First of all you are committing blasphemy. How credible are you? Imitating a man of the cloth. Then hoping someone fails. You are sick. And need help. Dump on her all you want she will still be MAYOR. And you will still be a nobody. You can't even say your name. Coward!!! : : : : : : : : : Thank you for running Willie. I've had so many good laughs reading the posts dissing you on this board. May you run for every office in the City and County so we all can continue to dump on you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 1st hand knowledge. posted Message 5176 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 16:09:27 Subject: Re: Say hey Willie Agreed, I met her on the campaign trail and was surpirsed at her hatred toward White people and the first one to call the race card! And I'm not even white! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Saber Rattle posted Message 5177 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 16:12:02 Subject: Re: WILLIE is looking for a deal Threaten to run with no intention of really running. see what offers come on the table, jobs, ability to run for council on the may Ticket then if all else falls fall on her sword. ***************** End Of Article ****************** chacha cha posted Message 5178 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 16:42:35 Subject: I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! You mean murdered as in someone else killed him.. I do not think so the story goes like this he was with his first cousin a female making love after having consumed a controlled substance the kind one might smoke. He had a heart attack and so did his cousin, she was in the hospital at the same time. It was also rumored that Ayala was his friend in the intimate sense. These are all meaningless now since his work was cut short because of this activity. Also Bobby of the Urban Times News recieves $500,000 per month in consulting payments because of the access Glenn provided to him. What he consults on I do not know. In addition to all this the Mayor's widow si acting strange and out of touch. The biggest political mistake Glenn made was Ayala he was mean and nasty to people and created poor relations for Glenn with HCDO Bobby of the Urban Times News also assisted in driving a wedge between Glenn and the HCDO. The problem with all this is Bobby and Ayala made out and Glenn suffered he needed the HCDO to achieve his goals of progress. Selfish people like Bobby and Ayala killed Glenn they created pressure beyond what a normal man could stand. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5179 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 16:46:17 Subject: Re: I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! It is a shame he passed but he would not have been re-elected in May 05. : You mean murdered as in someone else killed him.. I do not think so the story goes like this he was with his first cousin a female making love after having consumed a controlled substance the kind one might smoke. He had a heart attack and so did his cousin, she was in the hospital at the same time. It was also rumored that Ayala was his friend in the intimate sense. These are all meaningless now since his work was cut short because of this activity. Also Bobby of the Urban Times News recieves $500,000 per month in consulting payments because of the access Glenn provided to him. What he consults on I do not know. In addition to all this the Mayor's widow si acting strange and out of touch. The biggest political mistake Glenn made was Ayala he was mean and nasty to people and created poor relations for Glenn with HCDO Bobby of the Urban Times News also assisted in driving a wedge between Glenn and the HCDO. The problem with all this is Bobby and Ayala made out and Glenn suffered he needed the HCDO to achieve his goals of progress. Selfish people like Bobby and Ayala killed Glenn they created pressure beyond what a normal man could stand. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Somma posted Message 5180 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 17:39:01 Subject: Viola Richardson for Mayor Viola Richardson will be the next mayor of Jersey City. She is a strong woman who will fight the machine. Viola will beat any of the other losers running. Everyone must ge.t behind her. Remember everyone united can't lose. Fight the Power ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** xanadu posted Message 5181 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 17:39:13 Subject: Where is the Sierra Club The Xanadu developments in the meadownlands will cause irreversible damage to the environment in and around the meadownlands area and yet none of the glorify environmental groups had come out to protest. The reality is all these groups are fronts to other interests. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHING CHING posted Message 5182 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 19:13:42 Subject: Re: I still think The Great Mayor Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! OK he was murdered lethal injection of some kind delivered while in the act of making love. This injection causes heart attacks. Where they got it and who delivered the lethal shot is unknown but I suggest that interested parties might be McGreevey since at the time the untold story was in the hands of Glenn he was using it for leverage against Menedude and McGreevey both of whom where trying to take control of the Democratic party. Glenn was in their way and when he was gone the fighting between the two broke out. Both Menedude and McGreevey share the knowledge of how it was done because they paid for it. Secrets are best kept unwrapped but this one will break shortly as the two interested parties continue to battle and leak stories to the press. McGreevey will have to tell all shortly anyway to avoid going to jail. : It is a shame he passed but he would not have been re-elected in May 05. : : : You mean murdered as in someone else killed him.. I do not think so the story goes like this he was with his first cousin a female making love after having consumed a controlled substance the kind one might smoke. He had a heart attack and so did his cousin, she was in the hospital at the same time. It was also rumored that Ayala was his friend in the intimate sense. These are all meaningless now since his work was cut short because of this activity. Also Bobby of the Urban Times News recieves $500,000 per month in consulting payments because of the access Glenn provided to him. What he consults on I do not know. In addition to all this the Mayor's widow si acting strange and out of touch. The biggest political mistake Glenn made was Ayala he was mean and nasty to people and created poor relations for Glenn with HCDO Bobby of the Urban Times News also assisted in driving a wedge between Glenn and the HCDO. The problem with all this is Bobby and Ayala made out and Glenn suffered he needed the HCDO to achieve his goals of progress. Selfish people like Bobby and Ayala killed Glenn they created pressure beyond what a normal man could stand. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHING CHING posted Message 5183 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 19:20:01 Subject: XANADU WAS BIG ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE UNTIL UNTIL THE GREED SETTLED IN ON MCGREEVEY AND MENEDUDE. THEY WANTED IT ALL AND NOW BECAUSE THE FEDS WHERE CLOSING IN ON THEIR ACTIVITIES. THE FIGHTS BETWEEN THE DONALD AND MENEDUDE STARTED BECAUSE MCGREEVEY FELT THAT HIM AND THE CONGRESSMAN NEEDED NO ASSISTANCE FROM THE DONALD AND OTHER TRADITIONAL STRONG HOLDERS OF POWER. IT IS NOT THE BULLET WITH YOUR NAME ON IT BUT RATHER THE ONE MARKED TO WHOEVER. GLENN WAS WHOEVER WAS IN THE WAY. LUCKY FOR EVERYON. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Investigate Bob Menendez posted Message 5184 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 19:54:39 Subject: Has Xanadu Money Stashed Away : : Boss Menendez was forced to call the Hoboken Police this past Saturday Night when he found a can of garbage dumped on top of his car. : : While visiting his "lady friend " Kay - owner of KL Strategies -at her luxury penthouse in Convicte Briber's Joe Barry Waterfront Developement - BTW Kay's apt is on the 11th floor. : : SOMEONE DUMPED a can of trash all over Menendez's car -- HOW APPROPIATE. : Are YOU SURE IT WASNT XANADU MONEY INSTEAD OF GARBAGE? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bob Kay Purrrrfect Together posted Message 5185 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 20:44:02 Subject: Kay's Neighbors Were Laughing : Boss Menendez was forced to call the Hoboken Police this past Saturday Night when he found a can of garbage dumped on top of his car. : While visiting his "lady friend " Kay - owner of KL Strategies -at her luxury penthouse in Convicte Briber's Joe Barry Waterfront Developement - BTW Kay's apt is on the 11th floor. : SOMEONE DUMPED a can of trash all over Menendez's car -- HOW APPROPIATE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** George posted Message 5186 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 21:03:00 Subject: Build a better Bush This is fun. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jimmie Winebarger posted Message 5187 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 21:13:54 Subject: Re: Healy being used by HCDO glucophage Class: when they're running you out of town, to look like you're leading the parade. -- Bill Battie glucophage online ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kathline Moxley posted Message 5188 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 21:27:41 Subject: Re: Property Tax Reimbursement Checks glucophage BOFH Excuse #52: Smell from unhygienic janitorial staff wrecked the tape heads glucophage online ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5189 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 22:22:10 Subject: Thank you Phil Flood Jr. I am in tears here ... I'm laughing so hard reading your posts Phil Jr. Just to let you know .. I bear no malice towards Willie or any of her family members. I wish you all well. You have to keep doing what you're doing. You keep me Laughing Out Loud(LOL). You can't make this stuff up !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The only Bush I respect...is my own! posted Message 5190 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 22:31:28 Subject: Re: Build a better Bush : This is fun. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get a Life posted Message 5191 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 23:03:25 Subject: Glenn Cunningham was murdered!!! Glenn was a nice guy. But he was out of shape, over weight, didn't exercise, had a bad ticker, ate all kinds of crap, worked too many hours, had more stress than any man should have, because of idiots like BILL AYALA and Bobby-Joe, and was running around on a hot day. No freakin affair, no bs..., no murder here...just a sorry story of a life cut short because the people closest to him did nothing to protect him and keep him healthy. So cut the crap about conspiracy theories and the rest. Let the guy rest in peace and maintain his dignity after death. : OK he was murdered lethal injection of some kind delivered while in the act of making love. This injection causes heart attacks. Where they got it and who delivered the lethal shot is unknown but I suggest that interested parties might be McGreevey since at the time the untold story was in the hands of Glenn he was using it for leverage against Menedude and McGreevey both of whom where trying to take control of the Democratic party. Glenn was in their way and when he was gone the fighting between the two broke out. Both Menedude and McGreevey share the knowledge of how it was done because they paid for it. Secrets are best kept unwrapped but this one will break shortly as the two interested parties continue to battle and leak stories to the press. McGreevey will have to tell all shortly anyway to avoid going to jail. : : : It is a shame he passed but he would not have been re-elected in May 05. : : : : : You mean murdered as in someone else killed him.. I do not think so the story goes like this he was with his first cousin a female making love after having consumed a controlled substance the kind one might smoke. He had a heart attack and so did his cousin, she was in the hospital at the same time. It was also rumored that Ayala was his friend in the intimate sense. These are all meaningless now since his work was cut short because of this activity. Also Bobby of the Urban Times News recieves $500,000 per month in consulting payments because of the access Glenn provided to him. What he consults on I do not know. In addition to all this the Mayor's widow si acting strange and out of touch. The biggest political mistake Glenn made was Ayala he was mean and nasty to people and created poor relations for Glenn with HCDO Bobby of the Urban Times News also assisted in driving a wedge between Glenn and the HCDO. The problem with all this is Bobby and Ayala made out and Glenn suffered he needed the HCDO to achieve his goals of progress. Selfish people like Bobby and Ayala killed Glenn they created pressure beyond what a normal man could stand. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chloe Hamby posted Message 5192 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 23:27:25 Subject: Re: Healy being used by HCDO glucophage Scientists still know less about what attracts men than they do about what attracts mosquitoes. -- Dr. Joyce Brothers, "What Every Woman Should Know About Men" glucophage online ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jimmie Tester posted Message 5193 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 26, 2004 at 23:36:44 Subject: Re: Online Video: Fr. Schiller Reads from the Bible at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham glucophage Homer: Marge, it's 3 a.m. and I worked all day! Marge: It's 9:30 p.m. and you spent your whole Saturday drinking beer in Maggie's kiddie pool. Another Simpsons Clip Show glucophage online ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bayonne Election Memories posted Message 5194 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 00:17:50 Subject: Re: Remember the Good Old days I remember when Glenn Cunningham ran for freeholder for the first time, no one saw his photo on any campaign literature. The day after the election, residents of Bayonne (40% of the freeholder district) awoke to pick up the newspaper and see a young African American with a large afro celebrating his victory the night before, much to surprise and victory from their support. Bayonne voters throught, with a name like Glenn Cunningham, they were electing some nice Irish American! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Geoff Adam posted Message 5195 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 00:22:03 Subject: Re: Online Video: Jersey City Schools Superintendent Dr. Epps Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham glucophage Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat. -- John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy, 1981-1987 glucophage online ***************** End Of Article ****************** Patricia Linkes posted Message 5196 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 01:01:31 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor looks very sad today on the beach glucophage The significant fact is this: No Bene Tleilax female has ever been seen away from the protection of their core planets. (Face Dancer mules who simulate females do not count in this analysis. They cannot be breeders.) 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Knows the legal challenges will begin since he doesn't own property in the City or voted in JC for years and is listed as voting in Hamburg, NJ Last Nov. Watch him fall in line with Sandra and support Flood ***************** End Of Article ****************** Michael Moore posted Message 5199 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 02:42:46 Subject: Re: L. Harvey Smith's Speech glucophage Be both a speaker of words and a doer of deeds. -- Homer glucophage online ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aaron Bohne posted Message 5200 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 02:44:51 Subject: Re: Leave Avon By The Sea and Save us from Bad Government glucophage Advice from an old carpenter: measure twice, saw once. glucophage online ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sarah Gortney posted Message 5201 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 03:15:29 Subject: Re: Online Video: U.S. Attorney Chris Christie Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham glucophage SpanKY: cvs commit? But....I was told there would be a million floggings and lashings in my future! flog him * latexer gets out the cat-o-nines * squinky86 hides glucophage online ***************** End Of Article ****************** Knock Knock posted Message 5202 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 07:18:57 Subject: Whos there Menedude helping fund the terrorist with gum arabic from the Sudan. Knock Knock whos there Menedude helping the Sudan regime kill its unwanted people Dafur. Knock Knock whos there McGreevey going to jail turning over everything to the Feds who will bury it for fear the real truth about 9/11 will come forward. Knock Knock look at the G-38 filings for various municipal deals in New Jersey check out the local bond deals feeding the machine that is knocking on your door. http://www.msrb.org/msrb1/pcocweb/search/search.asp ***************** End Of Article ****************** Xanapoo posted Message 5203 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 07:27:01 Subject: Riverkeepers paid off to approve the enviromental reports The protectors of the natural the Riverkeepers a Kennedy front for money washing got some dosh from the developers of Xanapoo Mack/Cali. Not only did Kay Licky Causi get some big bucks from the deal which she passed on to the Menedude terror funds but so did other leading Democrats like the Kennedy organized crime family I mean Sen. Ted Kennedy and clan. I wonder how much it cost to get access to the commercial airliners for the terrorist you see everything is for sale in New Jersey but truth, justice, and the American Way because you cannot sell the real stuff. As anyone investigated the Local 3 IBEW and the Communications workers of America unofficial work slow down after 9/11 to increase the suffering of those without phone service. The city of New Yorks Police Department was forced to run on 10,000 cell phones due to the work slow down orchestraed by the Democrats. Democrats are Socialist folks hoping the dream of freedom goes away. Democrats are the party of the slave states and the communist. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5204 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 08:21:15 Subject: What are we supposed to be searching for at the bond deal Link? : Menedude helping fund the terrorist with gum arabic from the Sudan. Knock Knock whos there Menedude helping the Sudan regime kill its unwanted people Dafur. Knock Knock whos there McGreevey going to jail turning over everything to the Feds who will bury it for fear the real truth about 9/11 will come forward. Knock Knock look at the G-38 filings for various municipal deals in New Jersey check out the local bond deals feeding the machine that is knocking on your door. http://www.msrb.org/msrb1/pcocweb/search/search.asp What are we supposed to be searching for at the bond deal Link? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just a Money Machine posted Message 5205 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 09:06:44 Subject: Re: Buonocore to Drop out It was nothing but a fund-raising scam from the start. Come on people....you should have known from the start that it was all about the MONEY. : Buonocore has too many questions that he can't explain. Knows the legal challenges will begin since he doesn't own property in the City or voted in JC for years and is listed as voting in Hamburg, NJ Last Nov. : Watch him fall in line with Sandra and support Flood ***************** End Of Article ****************** Those were the days posted Message 5206 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 10:55:48 Subject: Just say no I was at an event when a certain Morristown type asked me if I was living in Jersey City once upon a time when a certain guy was mayor. I replied yes. Then Mr suburbs kind of pulls me away from the crowd and now whispering wants to know if there was any truth to the rumor that this here past tense mayor used to use DRUGS! In my best british butler snobawobby tone I answers him right back that I CERTAINLY HOPE SO. Business class actually starts shaking like he's about to go into a seizure, but he manages to last gasp out WHY DO YOU SAY THAT? WELL I tells him, at least if the former Honorable was on drugs, then that way he had like an EXCUSE! If he was on the Nancy Reagon wagon, then he must just of been a NUT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NYC Irish Bar Scene! posted Message 5207 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 11:22:33 Subject: Re: Just say no Oh the great times of the Glocamorra! Ever since it's closed where does a former mayor go to get joviale? ***************** End Of Article ****************** KB posted Message 5208 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 11:31:21 Subject: GET A LIFE! I've been reading this board for about two weeks now and find it absolutely horrific! This forum is primarily utilized by the disenfranchised, out of the loop, I'm so important because "I heard", "wanna be" people that really don't have a clue! Most of the information is wrong, presented poorly, and does not address "SOLUTIONS"! It's appalling that sooooo many people have so much to say about what is wrong, and nothing to say about how to move forward. How about this: Let's start a community group to address..., or bring our voices TOGETHER to change..., ATTEND A CITY COUNCIL MEETING to refute...! If you're not in the game, understand how the game is played, or really have the city's interest at heart, for the love of GOD get a hobby and let the DOER'S DO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Money Scam posted Message 5209 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 12:16:18 Subject: Menendez Kushner Connection Menendez's Millienum Pac rakes in money from anyone it can including Conviced Tax Cheat Charlie Kushner KUSHNER, CHARLIE FLORHAM PARK NJ 07932 09/15/2003 5000.00 BRUCKNER PLAZA ASSOCIATES/PARTNER 23992202605 KUSHNER, DARA FLORHAM PARK NJ 07932 04/15/2004 5000.00 HOMEMAKER 24961364432 KUSHNER, JARED LIVINGSTON NJ 07039 04/15/2004 5000.00 STUDENT 24961364431 KUSHNER, JOSHUA LIVINGSTON NJ 07039 04/15/2004 5000.00 STUDENT 24961364420 KUSHNER, NICOLE FLORHAM PARK NJ 07932 04/15/2004 5000.00 STUDENT 24961364422 KUSHNER, SERYL LIVINGSTON NJ 07039 03/23/2004 5000.00 WESTMINSTER ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Cash Machine posted Message 5210 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 12:21:07 Subject: Here IS the Link Here is the link http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/com_ind/2003_C00349233 : Menendez's Millienum Pac rakes in money from anyone it can including Conviced Tax Cheat Charlie Kushner : KUSHNER, CHARLIE FLORHAM PARK : NJ 07932 09/15/2003 5000.00 BRUCKNER PLAZA ASSOCIATES/PARTNER 23992202605 : KUSHNER, DARA FLORHAM PARK : NJ 07932 04/15/2004 5000.00 HOMEMAKER 24961364432 : KUSHNER, JARED LIVINGSTON : NJ 07039 04/15/2004 5000.00 STUDENT 24961364431 : KUSHNER, JOSHUA LIVINGSTON : NJ 07039 04/15/2004 5000.00 STUDENT 24961364420 : KUSHNER, NICOLE FLORHAM PARK : NJ 07932 04/15/2004 5000.00 STUDENT 24961364422 : KUSHNER, SERYL LIVINGSTON : NJ 07039 03/23/2004 5000.00 WESTMINSTER : ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5211 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 13:38:09 Subject: Horrific? : I've been reading this board for about two weeks now and find it absolutely horrific! This forum is primarily utilized by the disenfranchised, out of the loop, I'm so important because "I heard", "wanna be" people that really don't have a clue! Most of the information is wrong, presented poorly, and does not address "SOLUTIONS"! It's appalling that sooooo many people have so much to say about what is wrong, and nothing to say about how to move forward. How about this: Let's start a community group to address..., or bring our voices TOGETHER to change..., ATTEND A CITY COUNCIL MEETING to refute...! If you're not in the game, understand how the game is played, or really have the city's interest at heart, for the love of GOD get a hobby and let the DOER'S DO! - - - I once worked in a bar just outside of the Holland Tunnel (on this side of reality). A large number of winos (who lived under a nearby railroad bridge) were among the regular customers. The derelicts often would assault each other, resulting in grave injury and sometimes death. What word would you use to describe that? Welcome to Hudson County. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Greed posted Message 5212 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 14:04:45 Subject: How do you think he got the name"PorkyPig" Finaaly ,this crumb is exposed for what he is.Lets turn -off the Bob & Kay Money scam show now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not My Boss posted Message 5213 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 14:19:45 Subject: Harvey Smith tells Menendez Stay of Jersey City Politics We dont need Xanadu-like deals in Jersey City, Thank You. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Convict Joe Barry's Kids Give posted Message 5214 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 14:49:38 Subject: Menendez Barry Connection Menendez's Millienum Pac rakes in money from anyone it can including Convicted Briber Joe Barry's relatives BARRY, DAVID B. HOBOKEN NJ 07030 09/19/2003 2500.00 WA RESIDENTIAL COMPANY LLC/PARTNER 23992202624 BARRY, MICHAEL GLADSTONE NJ 07934 09/19/2003 5000.00 ESSEX-SUSSEX ASSOCIATES AND CONVICTED TAX CHEAT CHARLIE KUSHNER : KUSHNER, CHARLIE FLORHAM PARK : NJ 07932 09/15/2003 5000.00 BRUCKNER PLAZA ASSOCIATES/PARTNER 23992202605 : KUSHNER, DARA FLORHAM PARK : NJ 07932 04/15/2004 5000.00 HOMEMAKER 24961364432 : KUSHNER, JARED LIVINGSTON : NJ 07039 04/15/2004 5000.00 STUDENT 24961364431 : KUSHNER, JOSHUA LIVINGSTON : NJ 07039 04/15/2004 5000.00 STUDENT 24961364420 : KUSHNER, NICOLE FLORHAM PARK : NJ 07932 04/15/2004 5000.00 STUDENT 24961364422 : KUSHNER, SERYL LIVINGSTON : NJ 07039 03/23/2004 5000.00 WESTMINSTER : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Schundler for Mayor! posted Message 5215 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 14:57:17 Subject: He's Back!!!!!!!!!!! Schundler for mayor. Now it's not such a crazy plan escpecially as the State GOP line up against their former Gov candidate and blame himfor all their sweeping loses and control of the legislature! He is persona non gratis and will have a tough uphill battle next year. Just ask people in the Court House who spotted him picking up Petitions! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5216 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 15:19:18 Subject: Homemaker? Student? It's really great how a "homemaker" and "students" manage to save up thousands of dollars from their grocery money and allowances. And then they donate that money to a PAC. You don't think that Kushner could have been making donations in other people's names in order to evade campaign financing laws, do you? Nah, he'd never stoop that low. . . YEAH, RIGHT!!!! : Menendez's Millienum Pac rakes in money from anyone it can including Conviced Tax Cheat Charlie Kushner : KUSHNER, CHARLIE FLORHAM PARK : NJ 07932 09/15/2003 5000.00 BRUCKNER PLAZA ASSOCIATES/PARTNER 23992202605 : KUSHNER, DARA FLORHAM PARK : NJ 07932 04/15/2004 5000.00 HOMEMAKER 24961364432 : KUSHNER, JARED LIVINGSTON : NJ 07039 04/15/2004 5000.00 STUDENT 24961364431 : KUSHNER, JOSHUA LIVINGSTON : NJ 07039 04/15/2004 5000.00 STUDENT 24961364420 : KUSHNER, NICOLE FLORHAM PARK : NJ 07932 04/15/2004 5000.00 STUDENT 24961364422 : KUSHNER, SERYL LIVINGSTON : NJ 07039 03/23/2004 5000.00 WESTMINSTER : ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5217 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 15:30:30 Subject: Re: He's Back!!!!!!!!!!! Are nominating petitions available at the 595 Newark Avenue or at the Brennan Courthouse? Exactly where and exactly when did they see Bret Schundler? You're not making something up, right? : Schundler for mayor. : Now it's not such a crazy plan escpecially as the State GOP line up against their former Gov candidate and blame himfor all their sweeping loses and control of the legislature! : He is persona non gratis and will have a tough uphill battle next year. : Just ask people in the Court House who spotted him picking up Petitions! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Other Guy posted Message 5218 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 16:10:24 Subject: Was that Tom Gaynor with him? It sure looked like Tom Gaynor.Isnt he a big Schundler fan? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Spin Machine posted Message 5219 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 18:15:24 Subject: PoliticsNJ.com = Donald Scarinci's Website Ever since Boss Menendes & Kay were outed by the nation press - The Donald's website - politicsnj.com - has has "technical problems" with it's servers. Menendez desperately looking to quash the KL Strageties/ Kay Licausi Mistress Money Maker Expose. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Schundler for Mayor 2004! posted Message 5220 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 20:00:45 Subject: Re: He's Back!!!!!!!!!!! Admin building, still considered by some the Court house. This afternoon! May be a ploy to send a shock wave to the HCDO but the deadline to file is next week. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pin Cushion! posted Message 5221 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 20:05:52 Subject: Re: Homemaker? Student? Come on, Kushner was going to send the video tapes he entrapped his brother law to his nieces and nephews, but was persuaded to send it only to his sister. Now that's a class act! If that's doesn't tell you he is a stand up guy I don't know what will. The poor Congressman, thank the lord that Donald's website has been down for some time, and funny how the newspaper links wer ebing updated even last Sunday, but none picked up the JJ/ NY media story of the Congressman's affair. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5222 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 20:35:44 Subject: Schundler is in Alaska. This afternoon, I phoned Bret Schundler's office. They said that he is vacationing in Alaska and has been there all week. He's not expected back until this coming Monday. : Admin building, still considered by some the Court house. : This afternoon! : May be a ploy to send a shock wave to the HCDO but the deadline to file is next week. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why can't we all get along posted Message 5223 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 20:54:14 Subject: Bankrupt Jersey City needs help When the chips are down is when people are at their best. Today the City of Jersey city is Bankrupt. They need refinancing and a cutting of the fat. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5224 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 20:58:40 Subject: El Nueva Hudson -- February 26, 2004: Kay Licausi and the Light Rail » Un tren para Xanadu (I) !Atónito!!Perplejo!!Estupefacto! es como me sentí luego de saber que la Junta de Frijolders del condado de Hudson, había aprobado pagarle a una empresa privada para que hiciese campaña en favor de construir una extensión del tren que viene de Bayonne y que atraviesa mayormente las zonas cuasi exclusivas del waterfront, para que la empresa Xanadu se beneficie desarrollando un mega mall de entretenimiento en los Meadowlands. Ya Abe Antún, "compadre" del congresista Robert Menéndez había tenido el descaro de decir en dicha junta que extender el "light rail train" era en pro de los residentes del condado. Lo que no dijo es que la señora Kay Licausi, quien maneja las relaciones públicas a Mills Corp., que desarrolla el proyecto Xanadu -empresa que sin querer queriéndolo, quiere un trencito sin invertir un penny - es vice presidenta de la Organización Demócrata del Condado de Hudson. Ella, sintomáticamente también fue ex jefa de la oficina del congresista Menéndez. Vuele su imaginación. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5225 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 21:14:33 Subject: WNYC: Politicians Muscle Radio Broadcaster Politicians Muscle Radio Broadcaster June 23, 2001 BOB GARFIELD: We're back with On the Media. I'm Bob Garfield. BROOKE GLADSTONE: And I'm Brooke Gladstone. The popular host of a Spanish news talk show called Under Fire says three New York members of Congress used their political power to suppress his political views. Gerson Borrero was fired days after his station managers and a representative of the parent company, the Hispanic Broadcasting Corporation, held a meeting with the elected officials. Borrero says they threatened to prevent the station from renewing its broadcasting license if he didn't tone down his drive-time show on W.A.D.O. a-m or "Wahdo." As On the Media's Marianne McCune reports, Gerson Borrero chose not to comply. GERSON BORRERO: The way media works in my community is that they're very respectful--; they get an interview on radio, on, or on television and their like [MIMICKING] Oh, thank you Mr. Congressman! Thank you, Miss Congresswoman! [BLOWING KISSES] You know, and it's kissing -- you know - it, it's disgusting! MARIANNE McCUNE: If Gerson Borrero doesn't get what he considers an honest answer from a politician, he calls him a "Culipandero" -- one who sways from side to side. If he believes Congressman Jose Serrano of the Bronx isn't taking a clear stance on the status of Puerto Rico, Borrero accuses him of lacking political testicles. New York Congresswoman Nydia Velasquez has no political ovaries. GERSON BORRERO: I think that that's an appropriate choice of words. CONGRESSMAN ROBERT MENENDEZ: Well, I, I, I don't think it's a job of journalists to talk about people's body parts. MARIANNE McCUNE: That's Congressman Robert Menendez of New Jersey who along with Jose Serrano and Nydia Velasquez met with station brass. He's one more among dozens of targets Borrero has aimed at, both from his perch as editor in chief of the popular Spanish-language newspaper El Diario La Prensa and from behind his Wahdo microphone. CONGRESSMAN MENENDEZ: Wahdo used to be called "La Campeona" which in Spanish means "The Champion," and it was the champion of the Hispanic community. It promoted its interests. It promoted its unity. And we believe that it's no longer La Campeona; it's lost its way. MARIANNE McCUNE: Congressman Menendez says Borrero is divisive; that he looks to pit one group of Hispanics against another. Borrero once slammed the first ever Puerto Rican Congressman as an ex-Puerto Rican, but that congressman, now New York mayoral candidate Herman Badillo, doesn't flinch. He says the Hispanic community can handle internal debate. HERMAN BADILLO: I have every confidence that the Hispanic community can discern what is good and what is not good for the community. That is the nature of the reporting process! That's why we have the kind of radio programs we do -- so that people can decide what they believe is good for the community. MARIANNE McCUNE: Borrero believes the thousands of new listeners he's attracted to Wahdo are deciding he's right, and that's why congressmembers want him off the air. GERSON BORRERO: So instead of saying I will never be on his program, I will never listen to him -- they're saying get him off the air or I'm going to mess with your licensing. That, that is - to me that is a, a-- that is corrupt! That is dictatorial; it's tyrannical; it is not a democracy then if we allow them to do this! MARIANNE McCUNE: Actually that does happen in a democracy, says Jane Kirtley, professor of media, ethics and law in University of Minnesota, whether or not the details of this particular story are as Borrero describes. WOMAN: I think the only thing that's really surprising about this is the fact that this kind of thing doesn't happen more often. MARIANNE McCUNE: Broadcast media are regulated by the Federal Communications Commission, and although the FCC is supposed to be impervious to political pressure, she says Congress can and does get involved. Elected officials lobby commission members. They file letters of complaint or support, and they also act pre-emptively by stating their positions to heads of media outlets. WOMAN: I think it would be [LAUGHS] appropriate for members of Congress to resist, but I think human nature is such that if you have power, it takes a, a pretty big, strong, tall person to resist the impulse to do that! MARIANNE McCUNE: Jane Kirtley, like Gerson Borrero, believes it's up to broadcasters to stand up for themselves. GERSON BORRERO: I was so incensed that they would sit there and be subjected to verbal insults and threats-- which I think constitute a corrupt act on the part of these three elected officials who are looking out for their self interest. MARIANNE McCUNE: But what if that's not exactly the way it happened? Congressman Menendez says Wahdo called the meeting to ask for his and his colleagues stamp of approval on a new programming idea. CONGRESSMAN MENENDEZ: If you come to me and you ask me to support programming at your initiative and I tell you no, and you ask me why and I tell you why I won't support it, then I think that's prob--exac-- you know, certainly proper! And that's the nature of the circumstances that took place here. PROF. JANE KIRTLEY: Certainly I don't have any problem with them saying we don't like what you're doing. MARIANNE McCUNE: As long as it's not couched in a retaliatory threat, says professor Jane Kirtley. PROF. JANE KIRTLEY: You know we don't like what you're doing and by the way we're members of Congress and by the way -- we may have some input into your license renewal, so it would be good for you -wise of you to stay on our good side. I mean that is an -- obviously a more subtle form I suppose of, of, of censorship. MARIANNE McCUNE: Did you say we may not support the renewal of your license in 2006? CONGRESSMAN MENENDEZ: I don't recall specifically saying that. I do recall saying that, you know, we are free as is the constituency we represent to consider raising our concerns at any given point in time both with the station and in the future should they go ahead and-- you know-- have a, a licensing process! MARIANNE McCUNE: Wahdo representatives passed on some version of that message to Gerson Borrero, and when Borrero made it clear he planned to tell his listeners all about it, he says they fired him. None of the Wahdo representatives present at the meeting have returned repeated phone calls. They have only released a statement saying the Hispanic Broadcasting Corporation does not comment on situations, relations, internal matters or negotiations with employees and/or former employees. For On the Media, I'm Marianne McCune in New York. copyright 2001 WNYC Radio ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Shill = Kay Licausi posted Message 5226 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 21:26:21 Subject: English Translation Overwhelmed! Perplex! Stupefied! It is as I felt after knowledge that the Meeting of Freeholders of the County of the Hudson, it had approved to pay to a private company so that it campaigned in constructing an extension of the train please that comes from Bayonne and that crosses the exclusive zones mainly of waterfront, so that the Xanadu company benefits developing to a mega mall from entertainment in the Meadowlands. Already Hudson County Administrator Abe Antún, "friend" of Congressman Robert Menéndez has had the impudence today ito declare that Hudson County extend the "light rail train" for the bebefit of the residents of the county. What it did not say is that Mrs. Kay Licausi, who handles the public relations to Mills Corp., the Mills Company is the one developing the Xanadu project - it is a very wealthy company, Kay wants to build an extension without investing a penny - Kay is Vice President of the Hudson County Democratic Organization. She, symptomatically also she was the former Chief Of Staff of the office of Congressman Robert Menéndez. Let Your Imagination Fly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JCROADRUNNER posted Message 5227 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 22:37:34 Subject: McKlan/Manzo has sunk to a new level JUst back from vacation thanks for the calls. As i have previous stated the McKlan/Manzo has sunk to a new level. This time not against the minority but against their own. Jerry McKlan has paraded the city aka Charles Kushner with photos of an opponent. LOUser Manzo your campaign manager is garbage in nice terms. So i stated it is open season. Lou beware Ronny is looking for you. Say hello to Danny-Boy, have your attorney ready the SEC says hello ***************** End Of Article ****************** We want the truth! posted Message 5228 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 22:38:34 Subject: Truth about Roberto What does Menendez know about being hispanic, as a Cuban he only learned Spanish when he was in his late 20's, and only because he saw it as important to run for political office. Today when he speaks, one can here his pronounciation as one that was learned in school and not from his parents knee. He's a faker and wears his Cuban hetitage only for political gain ***************** End Of Article ****************** Schundlerites unite! posted Message 5229 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 22:45:37 Subject: Re: Schundler is in Alaska. Sure don't be fooled Bret joins the race and he cleans all their clocks! Bret for Mayor 2004! OUR ONLY HOPE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yam Minga posted Message 5230 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 23:08:36 Subject: Re: Wonderful Willie Flood : : : : Yeah, Good Ole' Willie... He really is a nice guy. : : : Wonderful Willie is pure Class. : : : God Bless her. : : : : Where's Willie Flood? We need a person like her to combine with Sandy to win the City back!!! Sandy as Mayor and Willie as At-Large Council person sounds like a 1 2 punch!!! I would love to see that. They really care about people not agendas. : Your mother's a man. Say that to me. I got something for you. This is her son. : Congrats, Aunt Willie!! You are THE WOMAN for the job!! Love, Yarmilay:o) ***************** End Of Article ****************** 4allah posted Message 5231 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2004 at 23:56:32 Subject: The Infidel Who is the infidel in the holy Quaran? "9.30" : And the Jews say: Œ UzairŒ is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away! "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51) "Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-) "...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-) "Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their residence." (Surah 9:73) "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-) Say: 'Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom..." (Surah 17:111) "'How shall I bear a child,' she [Mary] answered, 'when I am a virgin...?' 'Such is the will of the Lord,' he replied. 'That is no difficult thing for Him...God forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!...Those who say: 'The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,' preach a monstrous falsehood..." (Surah 19:12-, 29-, 88) "Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29) The Duty of Jihad http://www.a-voice.org/discern/islam.htm#duty Some helpful links at understanding the mindset of the militant radical islamic fundamentalist mentality http://www.a-voice.org/discern/islam.htm More quotes: 2:216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. 2:190-193 Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult or oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. 2:216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. 3:28 Let not the Believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers: If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: Except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (to remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah. 3:69-71 It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray (not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive! Ye People of the Book! Why reject ye the Signs of Allah, of which ye are (yourselves) witnesses? Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge? 3:85 If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good). 3:149 Section 16. O ye who believe! If ye obey the Unbelievers, they will drive you back on your heels, and ye will turn back (from Faith) to your own loss. 3:169-173 Think not of those who are slain in Allah’s way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the Presence of their Lord; They rejoice in the Bounty provided by Allah: And with regard to those left behind, who have not yet joined them (in their bliss), the (Martyrs) glory in the fact that on them is no fear, nor have they (cause to) grieve. They glory in the Grace and the Bounty from Allah, and in the fact that Allah suffereth not the reward of the Faithful to be lost (in the least). Section 4:18 Of those who answered the call of Allah and the Apostle, even after being wounded, those who do right and refrain from wrong have a great reward; — Men said to them: "A great army is gathering against you": And frightened them: But it (only) increased their Faith: They said: "For us Allah sufficeth, and He is the best disposer of affairs." 4:84 Then fight in Allah’s cause—thou art held responsible only for thyself—and rouse the Believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the Unbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment. 4:95 Not equal are those Believers who sit and receive no hurt, and those who [jihad] strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who [Jihad] strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit. Unto all (in Faith) hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight hath He distinguished above those who sit by a special reward, — 4:104 And slacken not in following up the enemy: If ye are suffering hardships, they are suffering similar hardships; but ye have hope from Allah, while they have none. And Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom. 4:150-151 Those who deny Allah and His apostles, and (those who) wish to separate Allah from His apostles, saying: "We believe in some but reject others": And (those who) wish to take a course midway, — They are in truth (equally) Unbelievers; and We have prepared for Unbelievers a humiliating punishment. 5:36 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: Execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: That is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter; 5:54 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. 8:12 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: Give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: Smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them." 8:16-17 If any do turn his back to them on such a day—unless it be in a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own) —he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell, —an evil refuge (indeed)! It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah: When thou threwest (a handful of dust), it was not thy act, but Allah’s: In order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself: For Allah is He Who heareth and knoweth (all things). 8:39 And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do. 8:60 Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the Cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. 8:65 O Apostle! Rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: If a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: For these are a people without understanding. 8:74-75 Those who believe and migrated from their homes and {Jihad] fought for the Way of Allah, and those who have sheltered them and helped them they are truly the believers. Theirs shall be forgiveness and a generous provision. And those who believed afterwards and emigrated, and {Jihad] struggled with you -- they are of you. And in the Book of Allah, the near kinsmen deserve one another (in inheritance). Allah has knowledge of all things. 9:3 And an announcement from Allah and His Apostle, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage, —that Allah and His Apostle dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If, then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith. 9:5 But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 9:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 9:39 Unless ye go forth [in battle], He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things. 9:41 Go ye forth, (whether equipped) lightly or heavily, and strive and struggle, with your goods and your persons, in the Cause of Allah. That is best for you, if ye (but) knew. 9:44 Those who believe in Allah and the Last Day will not ask your permission so that they may {Jihad] struggle with their wealth and their selves. Allah knows best the righteous. 9:73 O Prophet! [Jihad] Strive hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell, —an evil refuge indeed. 9:86-88 Whenever a chapter is sent down, saying 'Believe in Allah and [Jihad] struggle with His Messenger,' the rich among the asked you to excuse then, saying, 'Leave us with those who are to stay behind.' There were content to be with those who stayed behind, a seal was set upon their hearts, so they do not understand. But the Messenger and those who believed with him [Jihad] struggle with their wealth and their selves. For them awaits goodness and those are the winners. 9:111 Allah hath purchased of the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise): They fight in His Cause and slay and are slain: A promise binding on Him in Truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Koran: And who is more faithful to his Covenant than Allah? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: That is the achievement supreme. 9:123 O ye who believe! Fight the Unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: And know that Allah is with those who fear Him. 16:110 But verily thy Lord, —to those who leave their homes after trials and persecutions, —and who thereafter strive and fight for the Faith and patiently persevere, —thy Lord, after all this is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful 25:52 Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Koran). 17:15 Who receiveth guidance, receiveth it for his own benefit: Who goeth astray doth so to his own loss: No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another: Nor would We visit with Our Wrath until We had sent an apostle (to give warning). 25:52 Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but [Jihad] strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Koran). 29:5 For those whose hopes are in the meeting with Allah (in the Hereafter, let them strive); for the term (appointed) by Allah is surely coming: And He hears and knows (all things). 29:69 Those who [Jihad] struggle in Our cause, We will surely guide them to Our ways, and Allah is with those who do good. 35:6 Verily Satan is an enemy to you: So treat him as an enemy. He only invites his adherents, that they may become Companions of the Blazing Fire. 47:4 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; at length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): Thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): But if it had been Allah’s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the way of Allah, —He will never let their deeds be lost. 48:17 No blame is there on the blind, nor is there blame on the lame, nor on one ill (if he joins not the war): But he that obeys Allah and His Apostle, —(Allah) will admit him to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; and he who turns back, (Allah) will punish him with a Grievous Penalty. 48:29 Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure. On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds Forgiveness, and a great Reward. 49:15 The believers are those who believe in Allah and His Messenger and have not doubted, and who [Jihad] struggle in His Way with their possessions and themselves. Such are those who are truthful. 60:1 Believers, do not take My enemy and your enemy for your guides, offering them love when they have disbelieved the truth that has come to you, who expel the Messenger and yourselves because you believe in Allah, your Lord! If you go out to [Jiahd] struggle in My way seeking My pleasure, but secretly love them, I know well what you conceal and what you reveal; whosoever of you does this will have gone astray from the Right Path. 61:11-13 That ye believe in Allah and His Apostle, and that ye [Jihad] strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful Mansions in Gardens of Eternity: That is indeed the supreme Achievement. And another (favor will He bestow), which ye do love, —help from Allah and a speedy victory. So give the Glad Tidings to the Believers. 66:9 O Prophet! [Jihad] Strive hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell—an evil refuge (indeed). ***************** End Of Article ****************** Love Of Money posted Message 5232 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 08:06:20 Subject: Menendez brought down by Love Of Money & Power Xanadu+Kay=a big fall from grace.Porky Pig will pay big time ,very soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** True Or False posted Message 5233 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 08:18:04 Subject: Healy,were you arrested in Bradley Beach or Not Yes or no.Time to set the record straight.Do you have a drinking problem. Is McCann right about your Weakness.Voters have a right to know.Why did you have no clothes on in the picture? ***************** End Of Article ****************** boy crazy posted Message 5234 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 09:31:34 Subject: McManzo promises radio Pat that he gets the Jersey City Homeland security job McManzo can't wait to see Pat and his wrestler buddies in their cute little outfits patrolling the waterfront. IT will be so precious. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Those in Glass houses posted Message 5235 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 09:53:34 Subject: Let's start with - Where hasn't McCann been Arrested? Ask McCann where does he go now that the Glocamorra is no more. Where does he go to buy his coke and drink himself silly until he's a drunken bully? Jerry "The Iron" McCann as his jailhouse girlfriends called him. Or to some - "Broken Jaw". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Investigate Menendez KL Strategies posted Message 5236 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 09:55:12 Subject: Menendez is a FRAUD : What does Menendez know about being hispanic, as a Cuban he only learned Spanish when he was in his late 20's, and only because he saw it as important to run for political office. : Today when he speaks, one can here his pronounciation as one that was learned in school and not from his parents knee. : He's a faker and wears his Cuban hetitage only for political gain ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5237 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 09:56:18 Subject: Lou Manzo? Lou better watch out, all those tax liens & judgements on him may just catch up to him or maybe it's just his closet activities will come back and "bite him on his @ss". ***************** End Of Article ****************** StraightLine posted Message 5238 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 10:15:34 Subject: McCann said ,Healy cant Walk a straight Line Astor Bar to City Hall without spilling a drop of beer.This Healy guy has talent. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth be told posted Message 5239 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 10:34:33 Subject: Tom Gaynor Tom, Why can't you post under your own name? Straightline... good one coming from someone like yourself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gay American posted Message 5240 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 14:44:45 Subject: arango defends mcgreevy is arango gay too? --------------------------------- Even Hudson County Republican Chairman Jose Arango was willing to call McGreevey's personal revelation "courageous." "It took an extremely strong man stand up the way he did," Arango said. "It was a tough decision." Arango said he knew McGreevey prior to McGreevey becoming governor. "When I was in the Assembly, he was lobbying," he said. "I have always seen him as an honorable man. I think this is a very sad moment." ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5241 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 16:10:40 Subject: NJN Video: Jersey City Police Meet the Terror Threat To view the NJN video Online, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Expose Boss Menendez posted Message 5242 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 17:55:38 Subject: Sunday NYT Article On Warlord Menendez New Jersey Section of 08/29/04 - The New York Times - discusses Boss Menendez and his compulsion with nitty gritty local politics. As soon as the online version is available I will post it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Expose Boss Menendez posted Message 5242 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 17:55:38 Subject: Sunday NYT Article On Warlord Menendez New Jersey Section of 08/29/04 - The New York Times - discusses Boss Menendez and his compulsion with nitty gritty local politics. As soon as the online version is available I will post it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5243 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 18:19:43 Subject: Dont get bit by The Menendez Greed bug The brain dead of Hudson County County will still vote for Porky Pig.Will You? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blockhead posted Message 5244 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 19:05:14 Subject: Re: Dont get bit by The Menendez Greed bug : The brain dead of Hudson County County will still vote for Porky Pig.Will You? ::::since we are talking about braindead, How are you Tom? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Facts OF Life posted Message 5245 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 22:18:10 Subject: Screw Menendez - He Is Going To Jail : The brain dead of Hudson County County will still vote for Porky Pig.Will You? ***************** End Of Article ****************** If we screw him , Kaye Licausi will beat us up posted Message 5246 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 28, 2004 at 22:57:44 Subject: Re: Screw Menendez - He Is Going To Jail : : The brain dead of Hudson County County will still vote for Porky Pig.Will You? ***************** End Of Article ****************** John Smith posted Message 5247 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 04:13:01 Subject: Bloods Street Gang a DEADLY problem in Downtown JC! The Bloods have recruited punks in JC. There needs to be police enforcement. A man was shot three times last thursday early in the evening right on Monmouth between Fifth street and Newark, he is near death. This is the Hamilton Park area. Police never stop the underage drinking, and drug use, drug dealing, the harassment of people by these punks. We need things to change NOW! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5248 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 07:43:27 Subject: Manzo sign defaced On a Manzo sign on a pole at Summit and Hutton in the Heights, someone cut out the For Mayor section and taped in a piece of material with the word SUC.KS written with black marker. Is this sign the only one? Is this happening in other sections of Jersey City? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5249 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 08:00:33 Subject: Light rail to Xanadu-Now you know why HC is paying for the study Pay back for Porky Pig & Kay.How much did that study cost Us,Anyway? ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL - Run But Can't Hide posted Message 5250 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 10:48:07 Subject: Politicsnj.com Still Not Working The Donald's website - politicsnj.com has had 'technical problems with it's servers" ever since Boss Menendez was exposed by the National Media. Strange - that no stories about Menendez and his Mistress Kay Licausi appear on politicsnj.com. Hey Donald ........you can RUN BUT YOU CANNOT HIDE FROM THE TRUTH -- Judgement Day is Coming !!!!!!! New Jersey Section of 08/29/04 - The New York Times - discusses Boss Menendez and his compulsion with nitty gritty local politics. : As soon as the online version is available I will post it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Heights hoodlum posted Message 5251 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 10:50:32 Subject: Poor Oh how mean? You mean someone took the time to tape over the sign, wow we have hoodlums and ruffians running loose in the heights with tape dispensers! You forgot to mention someone poured white enamel paint all over the front door and steps of the Healy HQ on Oakland, last week. I think taped over signs on public property, an ordinance I point out which was put in place by McCann, is nothing compared to defacing private property! It's only beginning! Ruffians, fiends! Call out the Police! If only Buonocore was on duty this would never had happened! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry The Fairy posted Message 5252 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 11:35:16 Subject: Homos for Manzo Truth be told... Jerry McCann learned some very interesting techniques while in prison which really turns on Lou. That's why Lou made Jerry his "Chief of Staff". Kinky! ***************** End Of Article ****************** heights grl posted Message 5253 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 13:59:10 Subject: Re: Healy,were you arrested in Bradley Beach or Not JERRY DOESNOT HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM! There was no arrest in Bradley beach. It seems Manzo and his low life campain manager will do anything they can to try to make JC voters believe what they say. Well little do they know. IT IS NOT WORKING!!! JC will vite for an honest man in the end not crooks! ***************** End Of Article ****************** heightsgrl posted Message 5254 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 14:03:22 Subject: Re: McCann said ,Healy cant Walk a straight Line MCCANN NEEDS TO GET A LIFE WHAT A PIECE OF S#$T!!!!! ask him i=f he can remeber where he lives after a nite out with his man!! Makes me laugh how a convited phelon has so much to say about everyone!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5255 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 15:01:26 Subject: Re: Manzo,were you arrested in Bradley Beach or Not Manzo owns a condo in Bradley Beach also. He likes to entertain his guy pals there away from his mommy's prying eyes. Plus Brother Ronnie too a nose dive since Mommy also benefitted from his SEC dealings and was going down with him if he didn't plead guilty. Has anyone asked Lou to give back Ronnie and mommy's tainted money? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Warlord or carcass-chewing vulture? posted Message 5256 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 17:23:07 Subject: New York Times: Menendez's Blooper In Attacking McGreevey Menendez's Blooper In Attacking McGreevey New York Times By Josh Benson On Politics New Jersey Section August 29, 2004 All politics may be local, but how local is too local? Representative Robert Menendez, the articulate and accomplished national politician, is in good shape. He has been voted by his Democratic peers as caucus chair and is the third-ranking Democrat in the House, putting him in line for a powerful leadership position should his party regain the majority. He has leveraged his reputation as one of the most business-friendly Democrats in Congress to help him build a formidable campaign war chest. He has also become a leading Democratic voice on Hispanic issues and will play a key role during the Republican National Convention this week in rebutting G.O.P. overtures to an increasingly powerful Latino voting bloc. But despite registering these considerable successes by the age of 50, Mr. Menendez does not seem content with his role in Washington. To an extent that many of his peers find somewhat extraordinary, Mr. Menendez likes to be a player and a direct participant - in local Democratic politics. As Tom Ochs, a Washington-based Democratic consultant, puts it, "He's a very good politician nationally, but I can hardly think of any congressmen or senators who are involved in local stuff to the extent he is." This brings us to the other Robert Menendez, the personally ambitious Hudson County power broker, who has had a somewhat worse time of it lately. Mr. Menendez has had nothing but problems since his heavy-handed attempt to insert himself into the scramble for power that followed Governor McGreevey's surprise resignation announcement. The congressman, who wants to be a senator, thought he saw an opportunity to fulfill that ambition. The plan was to pressure Mr. McGreevey to quit immediately, in turn allowing Mr. Menendez's close ally, Senator Jon S. Corzine, to become governor in a special election - and to anoint Mr. Menendez as his replacement in the United States Senate. Mr. Menendez's bid to depose the governor, conceived of in concert with powerful political bosses like George Norcross of Camden and John Lynch of Middlesex, failed in spectacular fashion. Instead of forcing Mr. McGreevey from office, the congressman and his temporary allies provided the governor with a convenient enemy to rally against. The coup plotters quickly found themselves labeled political "warlords" by quick-spinning McGreevey supporters, and the governor himself now looks all but certain to remain in office right up until his originally announced date of resignation on Nov. 15. The exchange was particularly damaging for Mr. Menendez. Not only was he forced to retreat from his position, but in the process of his dispute with a ruthless and suddenly reckless McGreevey camp, some nasty rumors about the congressman's private life mysteriously found their way into the press. It isn't clear what effect the congressman's latest venture into New Jersey's pohtical sectarianism will have on his long-held ambitions for a promotion to the upper house in Washington. According to the version of events in the Menendez camp, the damage should be minimal. There was never really a pohtical showdown with the governor to back off from, they say. Rather, Mr. Menendez simply feared that his party could be damaged in next year's elections if Mr. McGreevey lingered too long. They also say that he decided after a private meeting that the governor had no intention of leaving and that the most constructive course of action remaining was to rally behind him. "There won't be any long-term effect," asserted one Democrat closely allied with Mr. Menendez. But another, more popular school of thought in state Democratic circles says that Mr. Menendez made a transparent power play and lost and that he has suffered a potentially serious blow as a result. For one thing, his high-profile involvement in the sloppy tussle over the spoils of the McGreevey era is certainly a setback to his constant efforts to define himself as an esteemed national legislator rather than as a back-room broker from Hudson County. Of course, his image outside the environs of his congressional district wouldn't necessarily be cause for concern if Mr. Menendez were content to rise through the ranks of national politics as a mere member of the House. Perhaps the greater danger for Mr. Menendez, then, is that his direct involvement in the divisive intraparty struggle over the McGreevey affair will make it difficult for him to gain the sort of broad institutional support he will need for any future statewide endeavor - like running for an open Senate seat. "I know that Bob Menendez has the capability at any time of shifting to intelhgent discussion of pohcy and national issues," said David Rebovich, managing director of the Institute for New Jersey Politics at Rider University. "And then there's nonsense like this, which isn't even the first time that Menendez's forays into the nitty-gritty of New Jersey politics have backfired. It would probably be wise for him, and for his career, to pull back and focus again on national issues and how they impact on New Jersey." As Mr. Menendez helps deliver the Democratic response during the Republican convention this week, he may be keeping that in mind. Josh Benson is a freelance writer based in Trenton. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5257 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 18:16:57 Subject: Menendez has been exposed for what he is-A Fake Election day is pay back time in Glenn Cunninghams memory. ***************** End Of Article ****************** All politics are local, but somebody was loco. . . posted Message 5258 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 18:18:09 Subject: A Jersey City Fairy Tale Some years back there was a very honest, courageous and liberated (that's how, of late, all the verbage pack-rats are describing James E. McGreevey) guy in Jersey City by the name of Buster. AS LUCK WOULD HAVE IT, one of Buster's neighbors lived in a building adjoining a lot back behind a garage. People thought that nobody could see what was going on in this lot after sunset. The truth was that this neighbor's house had a window in a wall covered over with vines. You could not see the window from the yard. But, from the window, one could easily see everything going on in the well-lit lot. This neighbor would amuse himself Summer nights by quietly sitting at the window and watching the show outside -- unknown to any of the actors. Late one night, right after the tavern up the block closed, Mr. Window Watcher was surprised to see Buster coyly leading by the hand someone with a local reputation as a ladies man. Buster assumed a well-practiced provacative pose over the hood of a car. After a few minutes of drunken stumbling and fumbling, it became clear that though the liquor had removed the playboy's inhibitions so that he had agreed to this rendezvous among the jalopies, the alcohol had also removed his ability to accomplish the task. Very annoyed, Buster spun around and shoved his partner up against the vehicle. In a quick reversal of roles, Buster became the aggressor. The moral of the story is that if you try to screw someone who's able to screw you, that's just what might happen. : Menendez's Blooper In Attacking McGreevey : New York Times : By Josh Benson : On Politics : New Jersey Section : August 29, 2004 : All politics may be local, but how local is too local? : Representative Robert Menendez, the articulate and accomplished national politician, is in good shape. : He has been voted by his Democratic peers as caucus chair and is the third-ranking Democrat in the House, putting him in line for a powerful leadership position should his party regain the majority. He has leveraged his reputation as one of the most business-friendly Democrats in Congress to help him build a formidable campaign war chest. : He has also become a leading Democratic voice on Hispanic issues and will play a key role during the Republican National Convention this week in rebutting G.O.P. overtures to an increasingly powerful Latino voting bloc. : But despite registering these considerable successes by the age of 50, Mr. Menendez does not seem content with his role in Washington. To an extent that many of his peers find somewhat extraordinary, Mr. Menendez likes to be a player and a direct participant - in local Democratic politics. As Tom Ochs, a Washington-based Democratic consultant, puts it, "He's a very good politician nationally, but I can hardly think of any congressmen or senators who are involved in local stuff to the extent he is." : This brings us to the other Robert Menendez, the personally ambitious Hudson County power broker, who has had a somewhat worse time of it lately. Mr. Menendez has had nothing but problems since his heavy-handed attempt to insert himself into the scramble for power that followed Governor McGreevey's surprise resignation announcement. : The congressman, who wants to be a senator, thought he saw an opportunity to fulfill that ambition. The plan was to pressure Mr. McGreevey to quit immediately, in turn allowing Mr. Menendez's close ally, Senator Jon S. Corzine, to become governor in a special election - and to anoint Mr. Menendez as his replacement in the United States Senate. : Mr. Menendez's bid to depose the governor, conceived of in concert with powerful political bosses like George Norcross of Camden and John Lynch of Middlesex, failed in spectacular fashion. : Instead of forcing Mr. McGreevey from office, the congressman and his temporary allies provided the governor with a convenient enemy to rally against. The coup plotters quickly found themselves labeled political "warlords" by quick-spinning McGreevey supporters, and the governor himself now looks all but certain to remain in office right up until his originally announced date of resignation on Nov. 15. : The exchange was particularly damaging for Mr. Menendez. Not only was he forced to retreat from his position, but in the process of his dispute with a ruthless and suddenly reckless McGreevey camp, some nasty rumors about the congressman's private life mysteriously found their way into the press. : It isn't clear what effect the congressman's latest venture into New Jersey's pohtical sectarianism will have on his long-held ambitions for a promotion to the upper house in Washington. According to the version of events in the Menendez camp, the damage should be minimal. There was never really a pohtical showdown with the governor to back off from, they say. Rather, Mr. Menendez simply feared that his party could be damaged in next year's elections if Mr. McGreevey lingered too long. They also say that he decided after a private meeting that the governor had no intention of leaving and that the most constructive course of action remaining was to rally behind him. : "There won't be any long-term effect," asserted one Democrat closely allied with Mr. Menendez. : But another, more popular school of thought in state Democratic circles says that Mr. Menendez made a transparent power play and lost and that he has suffered a potentially serious blow as a result. : For one thing, his high-profile involvement in the sloppy tussle over the spoils of the McGreevey era is certainly a setback to his constant efforts to define himself as an esteemed national legislator rather than as a back-room broker from Hudson County. Of course, his image outside the environs of his congressional district wouldn't necessarily be cause for concern if Mr. Menendez were content to rise through the ranks of national politics as a mere member of the House. : Perhaps the greater danger for Mr. Menendez, then, is that his direct involvement in the divisive intraparty struggle over the McGreevey affair will make it difficult for him to gain the sort of broad institutional support he will need for any future statewide endeavor - like running for an open Senate seat. : "I know that Bob Menendez has the capability at any time of shifting to intelhgent discussion of pohcy and national issues," said David Rebovich, managing director of the Institute for New Jersey Politics at Rider University. "And then there's nonsense like this, which isn't even the first time that Menendez's forays into the nitty-gritty of New Jersey politics have backfired. It would probably be wise for him, and for his career, to pull back and focus again on national issues and how they impact on New Jersey." : As Mr. Menendez helps deliver the Democratic response during the Republican convention this week, he may be keeping that in mind. : Josh Benson is a freelance writer based in Trenton. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 5259 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 18:54:07 Subject: Re: Manzo sign defaced ::Well, the Manzo people know who has been defacing a lot of their signs. They have caught 2 red-handed tearing signs down (one drives County vehicle #2)& they have a bunch of signs with Healy's name spray painted on them. Now that's just in the Heights. As for the Healy paint on Oakland Ave incident, that happened before Healy's campaign really got underway, so who knows who did what. I will tell you this, the Healy group, who is in charge of the Heights is quite a craven bunch. This is an insult to Jerry, who is a pretty decent sort. This is shaping up to be a real "fun" campaign. Do you even want to imagine what it will be like when the for real election comes up? : On a Manzo sign on a pole at Summit and Hutton in the Heights, someone cut out the For Mayor section and taped in a piece of material with the word SUC.KS written with black marker. : Is this sign the only one? Is this happening in other sections of Jersey City? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez is Many Things posted Message 5260 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 19:04:55 Subject: Fake , Sucmbag, Ingrate, Federal Informant, Closet Case, Greaseball : Election day is pay back time in Glenn Cunninghams memory. ***************** End Of Article ****************** sign of the times posted Message 5261 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 20:54:00 Subject: Re: Manzo sign defaced : ::Well, the Manzo people know who has been defacing a lot of their signs. They have caught 2 red-handed tearing signs down (one drives County vehicle #2)& they have a bunch of signs with Healy's name spray painted on them. Now that's just in the Heights. As for the Healy paint on Oakland Ave incident, that happened before Healy's campaign really got underway, so who knows who did what. I will tell you this, the Healy group, who is in charge of the Heights is quite a craven bunch. This is an insult to Jerry, who is a pretty decent sort. This is shaping up to be a real "fun" campaign. Do you even want to imagine what it will be like when the for real election comes up? : : On a Manzo sign on a pole at Summit and Hutton in the Heights, someone cut out the For Mayor section and taped in a piece of material with the word SUC.KS written with black marker. : : Is this sign the only one? Is this happening in other sections of Jersey City? Was Jimmy Dixon seen fleeing on his bicycle or is he still driving a county car on a revoked license? ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHING CHING posted Message 5262 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 20:54:34 Subject: Ayala and Menedudes crack connection Just when you thought the respectable Congressman and Former City Official might stop short of violating the public trust and the law a rumor surfaces out of the Govenor's quarters. Amazing as it might sound the dynamic duo of Ayala and Menendude worked a protection scheme for distribution of crack. As if it where not enough that Menedude allows the treasury of Ossama to be filled via his importation of gum arabic to the US from Ossama's Sudan plantations Menedude has taken it to new highs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5263 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 21:59:18 Subject: My son ... You have to stop smoking that Arabic Gum. You won't go to heaven with this addiction around your neck !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mother Goose posted Message 5264 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 22:01:55 Subject: The itsy bitsy spider .... If you don't behave little spider I'm going to have the Old Woman squish you with her shoe. ***************** End Of Article ****************** said the spider to the fly posted Message 5265 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 22:05:40 Subject: Re: The itsy bitsy spider .... : If you don't behave little spider I'm going to have the Old Woman squish you with her shoe. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 5266 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2004 at 23:39:46 Subject: Re: Manzo sign defaced : Was Jimmy Dixon seen fleeing on his bicycle or is he still driving a county car on a revoked license? :::Jimmy was on foot, Red Flyer in tow. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5267 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 02:20:51 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pee in the cup please posted Message 5268 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 06:49:24 Subject: Are you on drugs? : JERRY DOESNOT HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM! There was no arrest in Bradley beach. It seems Manzo and his low life campain manager will do anything they can to try to make JC voters believe what they say. Well little do they know. IT IS NOT WORKING!!! JC will vite for an honest man in the end not crooks! :::JERRY DOESN'T HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM? ARE ALL YOU LACKEYS IN DENIAL? THE LAST TIME AROUND, HE WAS GOING TO RELOCATE CITY HALL TO SULLY'S. SINCE SULLY'S CLOSED, JERRY HAS MOVED HIS HEADQUARTERS TO THE ASTOR. I DON'T THINK HE GOES THERE FOR THE BAR PIES. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 5269 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 07:00:14 Subject: Hey Uber! Notice that since McGreevy revealed his little secret, there has been nothing but insinuation about another candidate's sexuality? To paraphrase their "God", Bill Clinton, "It ain't the homosexuality, stupid!" But, in their tiny little minds, this is what brought McGreevy down & therefore should bring the candidate down. Let's not judge the best man for the job on the basis of anything remotely resembling those things that may impact our lives in Jersey City. This is pathetic because this is what is running the country ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5270 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 07:24:43 Subject: I'm not sure why you addressed this message to me. I'm not sure why you addressed this message to me. I've not posted anything concerning anyone's sexual orientation. Clearly, McGreevey's mistake in judgement was in giving a very important job to someone who wasn't qualified. It would have been just as wrong if the person in question was a woman, a relative, or a campaign contributor. There is a whispering campaign at work in the Jersey City's Mayor race. I'm not responsible for that. My editing the posts won't stop it. One of the purposes that the Board serves is to allow people to see what each candidates' organization is saying beyond their campaign literature. The cure for bad information is more good information -- not censorship. - - - : Notice that since McGreevy revealed his little secret, there has been nothing but insinuation about another candidate's sexuality? : To paraphrase their "God", Bill Clinton, "It ain't the homosexuality, stupid!" : But, in their tiny little minds, this is what brought McGreevy down & therefore should bring the candidate down. : Let's not judge the best man for the job on the basis of anything remotely resembling those things that may impact our lives in Jersey City. : This is pathetic because this is what is running the country ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get Real posted Message 5271 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 09:00:31 Subject: Schundlerites please line up for your cool aide Talk about a cult of personality. Anybody remember Jom Jones? : Sure don't be fooled : : Bret joins the race and he cleans all their clocks! : Bret for Mayor 2004! : OUR ONLY HOPE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 5272 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 09:03:45 Subject: Re: I'm not sure why you addressed this message to me. ::Just addressed the message to you because it was the commenting from one observer to another. I agree 500% that the cure for bad information is more good information, but alas and alack, this is Hudson County, where the laws that govern the universe in general do not apply. : I'm not sure why you addressed this message to me. I've not posted anything concerning anyone's sexual orientation. : Clearly, McGreevey's mistake in judgement was in giving a very important job to someone who wasn't qualified. It would have been just as wrong if the person in question was a woman, a relative, or a campaign contributor. : There is a whispering campaign at work in the Jersey City's Mayor race. I'm not responsible for that. My editing the posts won't stop it. One of the purposes that the Board serves is to allow people to see what each candidates' organization is saying beyond their campaign literature. : The cure for bad information is more good information -- not censorship. : - - - : : Notice that since McGreevy revealed his little secret, there has been nothing but insinuation about another candidate's sexuality? : : To paraphrase their "God", Bill Clinton, "It ain't the homosexuality, stupid!" : : But, in their tiny little minds, this is what brought McGreevy down & therefore should bring the candidate down. : : Let's not judge the best man for the job on the basis of anything remotely resembling those things that may impact our lives in Jersey City. : : This is pathetic because this is what is running the country ***************** End Of Article ****************** heightsgrl posted Message 5273 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 09:29:53 Subject: Re: Are you on drugs? : : JERRY DOESNOT HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM! There was no arrest in Bradley beach. It seems Manzo and his low life campain manager will do anything they can to try to make JC voters believe what they say. Well little do they know. IT IS NOT WORKING!!! JC will vite for an honest man in the end not crooks! : :::you sound like such a fool... I guess you are a manzo moron! HEALY FOR MAYOR!!! ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who you foolin' posted Message 5274 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 09:38:05 Subject: Re: McKlan/Manzo has sunk to a new level :::Just back from vacation? I do not think so. You been floodin' the other forum with your lies & inuendo. Tell me, who promised you a nice cushy job? Talk about LOSER. : JUst back from vacation thanks for the calls. As i have previous stated the McKlan/Manzo has sunk to a new level. This time not against the minority but against their own. Jerry McKlan has paraded the city aka Charles Kushner with photos of an opponent. LOUser Manzo your campaign manager is garbage in nice terms. So i stated it is open season. Lou beware Ronny is looking for you. Say hello to Danny-Boy, have your attorney ready the SEC says hello ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5275 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 11:15:22 Subject: Glenn Cunningham called on a Investigation of Menendez & Xanadu Now we all know why.Menendez has a lot to answer for. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5276 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 11:15:25 Subject: Glenn Cunningham called on a Investigation of Menendez & Xanadu Now we all know why.Menendez has a lot to answer for. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5277 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 11:15:28 Subject: Glenn Cunningham called on a Investigation of Menendez & Xanadu Now we all know why.Menendez has a lot to answer for. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5277 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 11:15:29 Subject: Glenn Cunningham called on a Investigation of Menendez & Xanadu Now we all know why.Menendez has a lot to answer for. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yawn posted Message 5278 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 11:31:54 Subject: How typical of you and your kind ::::When you have NOTHING you resort to personal attacks. Why anyone would "vite" for someone who surrounds himself with the ignorant likes of what I have seen in his campaign offices is beyond me. And for the record, I have been at a few functions with Mr. Healy and I have not been able to knock back that many since my college days. : : : JERRY DOESNOT HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM! There was no arrest in Bradley beach. It seems Manzo and his low life campain manager will do anything they can to try to make JC voters believe what they say. Well little do they know. IT IS NOT WORKING!!! JC will vite for an honest man in the end not crooks! : : :::you sound like such a fool... I guess you are a manzo : moron! HEALY FOR MAYOR!!! ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5279 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 11:36:53 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** heights posted Message 5280 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 13:11:29 Subject: Re: Are you on drugs? : : : JERRY DOESNOT HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM! There was no arrest in Bradley beach. It seems Manzo and his low life campain manager will do anything they can to try to make JC voters believe what they say. Well little do they know. IT IS NOT WORKING!!! JC will vite for an honest man in the end not crooks! : : EXCUSE THE TYPO!! VOTE!! WE WILL SEE NIV 2ND JUST HOW MUCH PEOPLE BELIEVE YOU MANZO PEOPLES BS!!! Healy for mayor! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ANS posted Message 5281 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 14:59:21 Subject: Healy & Bradley Beach... Perfect Together Healy s.ucks ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Mission Lives On! posted Message 5282 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 15:56:13 Subject: Tide Coming in for Flood Rev. Allen supports Willie Flood for Mayor of Jersey City! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 5283 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 16:00:26 Subject: FLOOD DECIDES TO ENTER RACE FOR MAYOR FLOOD DECIDES TO ENTER RACE FOR MAYOR Urban Times News August 27, 2004 - September 2, 2004 Jersey City, NJ - "Good evening everyone. My name is Willie Flood and I'm running for Mayor of Jersey City," said Ms. Flood to a group gathered at the Hudson County Reformed Democrat Headquarters. Ms. Flood has declared that she will seek the mayor's office in the November special election. "I'm looking forward to getting our city back on track by focusing on the issues that our late mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham, gave his life trying to implement. Also, I want to put an end to the bitterness and anger in City Hall. It is time for us to all come together to work on making one Jersey City. It was very difficult for Mayor Cunningham to get any legislation passed because all of the council, except for Viola Richardson, and later Steve Lipski, worked against his agenda that was inclusive of everyone. It is time for us to put all this animosity behind us and collectively work together. I know that I can continue the work started by Mayor Cunningham and keep his vision for a greater Jersey City, said Flood. As an aide to the late Mayor, she was a member of his inner circle and supported his vision for a city fe that had room for everyone. Mayor Cunningham was a man that loved Jersey City and he tried to make it a city that everyone could love. fMs. Flood was asked about her health and whether she was capable of campaigning and becoming the Mayor after her triple by-pass, surgery. "My doctor said I am in excellent health and I shouldn't have any problems with my health as long as I follow his instructions," she said. "The only thing wrong with my heart is that it hurts from losing Glenn. He died before his time. His passing is the only thing hurting my heart." According to a poll conducted by Penn & Shawn, Ms. Flood had a strong showing against Councilman Jeremiah Healy and Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who are also seeking the mayor's office. In 1992, Ms. Flood ran for the office of Mayor but was unsuccessful in her attempt. Former Assemblyman Joseph Charles also ran for mayor that year and split the African American vote. It is rumored that if Charles had not run, Flood would have been the city's first African American mayor. On Monday, August 30, 2004, Flood will formally announce her candidacy for Mayor of Jersey City at a press conference to be held at 2:00 p.m. She will make the announcement at the Hudson County Reform Democrats Headquarters located at 317 Martin Luther King Dr. She will make one stop at 1:00 p.m. at 440 Jersey Avenue before making the formal announcement. She is expected to be endorsed by Rev. Edward Allen, who has graciously bowed out of the Mayor's race to support Flood. Allen had announced he was running in the special November election but now has decided to drop out of the race and support Flood. "I don't want a repeat of what happened in 1992, when two prominent African Americans vied for the office and both lost to someone else. It is imperative that we continue the legacy of Mayor Cunningham and I feel that we can achieve that goal when we regain the Mayor's office, said Rev. Allen. "We can't afford to have someone in that position that doesn't have a desire to work for all the concerns of all the people. I'm encouraging everyone that was supporting me for mayor now put their support behind Willie Flood." Freeholder Jeffery Dublin will also endorse Flood at the press conference. Dublin is the new Freeholder for the Third District, replacing William Braker, who was recently convicted of federal charges for accepting bribes. "I'm supporting Flood because she is a long-time friend and when I needed her support during my candidacy for Freeholder, she was there. I believe in helping those who have helped me," said Dublin. Ms. Flood is a member of the Jersey City Board of Education, the Chair of the Hudson County Reform Democrats, former councilwoman-at-large and community activist. For more information on Ms. Flood's candidacy for Mayor, please contact her at 201-332-3908. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5284 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 16:05:56 Subject: Re: Tide Coming in for Flood : Rev. Allen supports Willie Flood for Mayor of Jersey City! Willie Flood is a really nice guy but not qualified for mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 5285 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 16:41:07 Subject: Flood enters mayoral race FLOOD DECIDES TO ENTER RACE FOR MAYOR : Urban Times News : August 27, 2004 - September 2, 2004 : Jersey City, NJ - "Good evening everyone. My name is Willie Flood and I hate white people. I'm running for Mayor of Jersey City, to keep it the mayoral seat in the hands of my African brothers and sisters. " said Ms. Flood to a group of 2,000 brothers and sisters gathered at the Hudson County Reformed Democrat Headquarters . : Ms. Flood has declared that she will seek the mayor's office in the November special election. : "I'm looking forward to getting our city back on track by focusing on the issues that our late mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham, gave his life trying to implement. Also, I want to put an end to the bitterness and anger in City Hall. It is time for us African Americans to all come together to work on making Jersey City a perfect place for Afican Americans to live and prosper.. It was very difficult for Mayor Cunningham to get any legislation passed because all of the council, except for Viola Richardson, , worked against his agenda that was inclusive of everyone. It is time for us to put all this animosity behind us and collectively work for us African Americans. I know that I can continue the work started by Mayor Cunningham and keep his vision for a greater Jersey City, said Flood. : As an aide to the late Mayor, she was a member of his inner circle who strived to opress the whites as they were opressed by whites over the last 200 hundred years. "Now the shoe is on the other foot and lets see how the honkies like it" said Flood. : fMs. Flood was asked about her health and whether she was capable of campaigning and becoming the Mayor after her triple by-pass, surgery. "My doctor said I am in excellent health and I shouldn't have any problems with my health as long as I follow his instructions," she said. "The only thing wrong with my heart is that it hurts from seeing that Uncle Tom Harvey Smith in City Hall." : According to a poll conducted by Penn & Shawn, Ms. Flood had a strong showing against Councilman Jeremiah Healy and Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who are also seeking the mayor's office. : In 1992, Ms. Flood ran for the office of Mayor but was unsuccessful in her attempt. Former Assemblyman Joseph Charles also ran for mayor that year and split the African American vote. It is rumored that if Charles had not run, Flood would have been the city's first African American mayor. : On Monday, August 30, 2004, Flood will formally announce her candidacy for Mayor of Jersey City at a press conference to be held at 2:00 p.m. She will make the announcement at the Hudson County Reform Democrats Headquarters located at 317 Martin Luther King Dr. She will make one stop at 1:00 p.m. at 440 Jersey Avenue before making the formal announcement. : She is expected to be endorsed by Rev. Edward Allen, who has graciously bowed out of the Mayor's race to support Flood. Allen had announced he was running in the special November election but now has decided to drop out of the race and support Flood. : "I don't want a repeat of what happened in 1992, when two prominent African Americans vied for the office and both lost to a white person. It is imperative that we continue the legacy of Mayor Cunningham and I feel that we can achieve that goal when we regain the Mayor's office, said Rev. Allen. "We can't afford to have a whitey in that position that doesn't have a desire to work for all the brothers and sisters. I'm encouraging everyone that was supporting me for mayor now put their support behind Willie Flood." : Freeholder Jeffery Dublin will also endorse Flood at the press conference. Dublin is the new Freeholder for the Third District, replacing William Braker, who was recently convicted of federal charges for accepting bribes. : "I'm supporting Flood because she is a long-time friend and because she is black" said Dublin. : Ms. Flood is a member of the Jersey City Board of Education, the Chair of the Hudson County Reform Democrats, former councilwoman-at-large and community activist for the group KAW (Kill All Whites). For more information on Ms. Flood's candidacy for Mayor, please contact her at 201-332-3908. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 5286 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 16:42:07 Subject: FLOOD ENTERS MAYORAL RACE FLOOD DECIDES TO ENTER RACE FOR MAYOR : Urban Times News : August 27, 2004 - September 2, 2004 : Jersey City, NJ - "Good evening everyone. My name is Willie Flood and I hate white people. I'm running for Mayor of Jersey City, to keep it the mayoral seat in the hands of my African brothers and sisters. " said Ms. Flood to a group of 2,000 brothers and sisters gathered at the Hudson County Reformed Democrat Headquarters . : Ms. Flood has declared that she will seek the mayor's office in the November special election. : "I'm looking forward to getting our city back on track by focusing on the issues that our late mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham, gave his life trying to implement. Also, I want to put an end to the bitterness and anger in City Hall. It is time for us African Americans to all come together to work on making Jersey City a perfect place for Afican Americans to live and prosper.. It was very difficult for Mayor Cunningham to get any legislation passed because all of the council, except for Viola Richardson, , worked against his agenda that was inclusive of everyone. It is time for us to put all this animosity behind us and collectively work for us African Americans. I know that I can continue the work started by Mayor Cunningham and keep his vision for a greater Jersey City, said Flood. : As an aide to the late Mayor, she was a member of his inner circle who strived to opress the whites as they were opressed by whites over the last 200 hundred years. "Now the shoe is on the other foot and lets see how the honkies like it" said Flood. : fMs. Flood was asked about her health and whether she was capable of campaigning and becoming the Mayor after her triple by-pass, surgery. "My doctor said I am in excellent health and I shouldn't have any problems with my health as long as I follow his instructions," she said. "The only thing wrong with my heart is that it hurts from seeing that Uncle Tom Harvey Smith in City Hall." : According to a poll conducted by Penn & Shawn, Ms. Flood had a strong showing against Councilman Jeremiah Healy and Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who are also seeking the mayor's office. : In 1992, Ms. Flood ran for the office of Mayor but was unsuccessful in her attempt. Former Assemblyman Joseph Charles also ran for mayor that year and split the African American vote. It is rumored that if Charles had not run, Flood would have been the city's first African American mayor. : On Monday, August 30, 2004, Flood will formally announce her candidacy for Mayor of Jersey City at a press conference to be held at 2:00 p.m. She will make the announcement at the Hudson County Reform Democrats Headquarters located at 317 Martin Luther King Dr. She will make one stop at 1:00 p.m. at 440 Jersey Avenue before making the formal announcement. : She is expected to be endorsed by Rev. Edward Allen, who has graciously bowed out of the Mayor's race to support Flood. Allen had announced he was running in the special November election but now has decided to drop out of the race and support Flood. : "I don't want a repeat of what happened in 1992, when two prominent African Americans vied for the office and both lost to a white person. It is imperative that we continue the legacy of Mayor Cunningham and I feel that we can achieve that goal when we regain the Mayor's office, said Rev. Allen. "We can't afford to have a whitey in that position that doesn't have a desire to work for all the brothers and sisters. I'm encouraging everyone that was supporting me for mayor now put their support behind Willie Flood." : Freeholder Jeffery Dublin will also endorse Flood at the press conference. Dublin is the new Freeholder for the Third District, replacing William Braker, who was recently convicted of federal charges for accepting bribes. : "I'm supporting Flood because she is a long-time friend and because she is black" said Dublin. : Ms. Flood is a member of the Jersey City Board of Education, the Chair of the Hudson County Reform Democrats, former councilwoman-at-large and community activist for the group KAW (Kill All Whites). For more information on Ms. Flood's candidacy for Mayor, please contact her at 201-332-3908. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5287 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 16:56:53 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bradley Beach PD posted Message 5288 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 17:02:07 Subject: Manzo & Bradley Beach... Homo Hide away! Lou's home away from ho me, where Mommy can't spy on his love affairs! Apt 12F! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steven Basco, Gays againt Gaughan and Healy posted Message 5289 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 17:30:31 Subject: Healy Gaughan Supporters are Gay Bashers I am gay and don't like what is being said about Mr. Manzo . I don't know if Mr. Manzo is gay but if he is so wo what. Does that make him a bad person? Does that mean he can't do a good job running the city? Mr. Gaughan and his goons don't like gay people. Mr. Gaughan said it was a sickness . I don't think I'm sick? I think Mr. Gaughan is sick and he is an elected official. I call on all the gays of Jersey City not to vote for Jerimiah Healy in November and for all the gays not to vote for Bill Gaughan or anyone on his ticket in May 2005. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homo Watch posted Message 5290 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 17:44:12 Subject: Sin against God No one cares what you think, go back to see your Shrink and stop blaming your parents or your upbring that forced you this way. Listen up, We don't like your kind, nor had any use for you. You were never a factor in any of these elections and we will make sure it stays that way. Stop trying to get others to believe what you are doing is normal and be accepted into society, there is no place for your kind. Move out of this City as you are Committing a Sin against God. There is no way of trying to explain your sin or having others accept you for it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Heights Hoodlum posted Message 5291 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 17:46:30 Subject: Steve Assco It's usually the ones who "DON'T think they are sick" that need the most help. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5292 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 18:23:19 Subject: Re: Gaughan & Healy Gay Bashing ? Bill Gaughan has never lost an election, so to hell with all the homos! We don't need your help. I don't even think the homos vote (maybe except Louser Manzo).Healy will be the mayor and Gaughan will be a councilman when all is said and done ! As Bill said " Homosexuality is a sickness you are born with " So go to yor insane asylum . HEALY FOR MAYOR NOV 04 & MAY 05 : No one cares what you think, go back to see your Shrink and stop blaming your parents or your upbring that forced you this way. : Listen up, We don't like your kind, nor had any use for you. : You were never a factor in any of these elections and we will make sure it stays that way. : Stop trying to get others to believe what you are doing is normal and be accepted into society, there is no place for your kind. : Move out of this City as you are Committing a Sin against God. : There is no way of trying to explain your sin or having others accept you for it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5293 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 18:25:50 Subject: Re: Manzo,were you arrested in Bradley Beach or Not Gay Louser. Manzo owns a condo in Bradley Beach also. : He likes to entertain his guy pals there away from his mommy's prying eyes. : : Plus Brother Ronnie too a nose dive since Mommy also benefitted from his SEC dealings and was going down with him if he didn't plead guilty. : Has anyone asked Lou to give back Ronnie and mommy's tainted money? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5294 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 18:46:14 Subject: Menendez Tells Healy to get out f the bars and Start Campaigning Or he will pull his Xanandu money and give it all to Harvey Smith.Menendez said he is getting nerous with Manzos big lead.And the way Manzo is out working Healy.He is also planning on getting rid of DeGise And Gaughan because they are so weak politically.He blames these two for all his troubles in HC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bring Manzo on! posted Message 5295 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 18:59:33 Subject: Past performance of Manzo! Yeah Manzo out working.. HA! If his past performance is any indication then no one has anything to worry about. Lou will be a 4 times loser! Let's see, Lost in 1992 Lost again in 1993 Lost again in 2001 And will lose again in 2004! Why do you think he needs McCann and his dirty trick? He stooped to a new low joining up with that guy, We lost a lot of respect for him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DOWNTOWN GIR;L posted Message 5296 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 20:41:13 Subject: Re: Sin against God : that was such a harsh thing to say. If you are a healy supporter i know for a fact Jerry would not like people gay bashing. Healy is a great guy who wants to make jersey a better place for all not just straight people he is here for all . gay or not. Healy for mayor all the way!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** healy all the way posted Message 5297 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 20:43:07 Subject: Re: Healy & Bradley Beach... Perfect Together we will see how bad in november again get a life you people are pathetic. healy for mayor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) all the way! if you people are smart and care about your city you will come out and vote for him Nov 2nd. ***************** End Of Article ****************** tris mccall posted Message 5298 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 21:19:34 Subject: The Stone Age is over. >> My guess is that you're about to be unpleasantly surprised. The gay community in Jersey City is much larger and better organized than it was four years ago. Beyond that, this mayoral election will coincide with a national contest where one of the contestants has been strenuously opposed to gay marriage. Almost every gay person in town (and trust me, it's quite a number) will go to the polls this November to register his or her opposition to the Bush administration's inflexible position. That might not be enough to tip the national election in any direction, but it *will* have an effect on Jersey City. All those gay voters will be looking for a mayoral candidate who has proven himself gay-friendly. I'll be sure to continue to let people know who fits the bill. And I definitely won't be the only one! Tris ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5299 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 21:37:28 Subject: The Wages of Sin Nothing wrong with a little sinning every once in awhile. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 5300 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 21:44:57 Subject: The dumbing down of Jersey City From the ridiculous to the sublime. Anyone observing politics in this town would think that some terrorist had put something in the water and mass insanity had broken out amongst the populace. If the existing group of candidates wasn't bad enough, now here comes Willie !! How will those stalwart Cunningham supporters ever be able to choose between the Likes of Allen, Buonocore and Flood ? I say .. let's have a steel cage death match !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Too Bad posted Message 5301 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 21:47:32 Subject: Re: Sin against God :::It's true, Jerry is a nice person. People come here and bash Lou because of his affiliations - well, you had better take a long hard look at Jerry's. : : that was such a harsh thing to say. If you are a healy supporter i know for a fact Jerry would not like people gay bashing. Healy is a great guy who wants to make jersey a better place for all not just straight people he is here for all . gay or not. Healy for mayor all the way!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Talking Head posted Message 5302 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 21:50:00 Subject: Take me to the river The good news for Willie ... when the flood begins the water will run through her one ear and out the other. There is nothing in between to obstruct it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5303 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 21:55:15 Subject: Hells Bells ! Now that Glenn is here with me .. we both think that Menendez is doing a great job up there. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vlad The Impaler posted Message 5304 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 21:57:04 Subject: Hey Anthony !!! Couldn't you post a picture that shows my good side ??!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 5305 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 23:09:18 Subject: Re: Past performance of Manzo! We'll see this time. Lou is out there everyday knocking on doors, speaking to people, Healy can't drag himself away from the Bar. Do you want a drunk for mayor? Menendez does so he can call the shots in City Hall. Menendez is ready to fall, and when he does it will not be pretty. : Yeah Manzo out working.. HA! : If his past performance is any indication then no one has anything to worry about. : Lou will be a 4 times loser! : Let's see, Lost in 1992 : Lost again in 1993 : Lost again in 2001 : And will lose again in 2004! : Why do you think he needs McCann and his dirty trick? He stooped to a new low joining up with that guy, We lost a lot of respect for him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 5306 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 23:16:54 Subject: Re: Healy & Bradley Beach... Perfect Together : Healy s.ucks If Healy is so qualified to be Mayor how come he can't figure out that you don;t relieve yourself in the streets? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 5307 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 23:28:05 Subject: Re: New York Times: Menendez's Blooper In Attacking McGreevey : Menendez's Blooper In Attacking McGreevey : New York Times : By Josh Benson : On Politics : New Jersey Section : August 29, 2004 : All politics may be local, but how local is too local? : Representative Robert Menendez, the articulate and accomplished national politician, is in good shape. : He has been voted by his Democratic peers as caucus chair and is the third-ranking Democrat in the House, putting him in line for a powerful leadership position should his party regain the majority. He has leveraged his reputation as one of the most business-friendly Democrats in Congress to help him build a formidable campaign war chest. : He has also become a leading Democratic voice on Hispanic issues and will play a key role during the Republican National Convention this week in rebutting G.O.P. overtures to an increasingly powerful Latino voting bloc. : But despite registering these considerable successes by the age of 50, Mr. Menendez does not seem content with his role in Washington. To an extent that many of his peers find somewhat extraordinary, Mr. Menendez likes to be a player and a direct participant - in local Democratic politics. As Tom Ochs, a Washington-based Democratic consultant, puts it, "He's a very good politician nationally, but I can hardly think of any congressmen or senators who are involved in local stuff to the extent he is." : This brings us to the other Robert Menendez, the personally ambitious Hudson County power broker, who has had a somewhat worse time of it lately. Mr. Menendez has had nothing but problems since his heavy-handed attempt to insert himself into the scramble for power that followed Governor McGreevey's surprise resignation announcement. : The congressman, who wants to be a senator, thought he saw an opportunity to fulfill that ambition. The plan was to pressure Mr. McGreevey to quit immediately, in turn allowing Mr. Menendez's close ally, Senator Jon S. Corzine, to become governor in a special election - and to anoint Mr. Menendez as his replacement in the United States Senate. : Mr. Menendez's bid to depose the governor, conceived of in concert with powerful political bosses like George Norcross of Camden and John Lynch of Middlesex, failed in spectacular fashion. : Instead of forcing Mr. McGreevey from office, the congressman and his temporary allies provided the governor with a convenient enemy to rally against. The coup plotters quickly found themselves labeled political "warlords" by quick-spinning McGreevey supporters, and the governor himself now looks all but certain to remain in office right up until his originally announced date of resignation on Nov. 15. : The exchange was particularly damaging for Mr. Menendez. Not only was he forced to retreat from his position, but in the process of his dispute with a ruthless and suddenly reckless McGreevey camp, some nasty rumors about the congressman's private life mysteriously found their way into the press. : It isn't clear what effect the congressman's latest venture into New Jersey's pohtical sectarianism will have on his long-held ambitions for a promotion to the upper house in Washington. According to the version of events in the Menendez camp, the damage should be minimal. There was never really a pohtical showdown with the governor to back off from, they say. Rather, Mr. Menendez simply feared that his party could be damaged in next year's elections if Mr. McGreevey lingered too long. They also say that he decided after a private meeting that the governor had no intention of leaving and that the most constructive course of action remaining was to rally behind him. : "There won't be any long-term effect," asserted one Democrat closely allied with Mr. Menendez. : But another, more popular school of thought in state Democratic circles says that Mr. Menendez made a transparent power play and lost and that he has suffered a potentially serious blow as a result. : For one thing, his high-profile involvement in the sloppy tussle over the spoils of the McGreevey era is certainly a setback to his constant efforts to define himself as an esteemed national legislator rather than as a back-room broker from Hudson County. Of course, his image outside the environs of his congressional district wouldn't necessarily be cause for concern if Mr. Menendez were content to rise through the ranks of national politics as a mere member of the House. : Perhaps the greater danger for Mr. Menendez, then, is that his direct involvement in the divisive intraparty struggle over the McGreevey affair will make it difficult for him to gain the sort of broad institutional support he will need for any future statewide endeavor - like running for an open Senate seat. : "I know that Bob Menendez has the capability at any time of shifting to intelhgent discussion of pohcy and national issues," said David Rebovich, managing director of the Institute for New Jersey Politics at Rider University. "And then there's nonsense like this, which isn't even the first time that Menendez's forays into the nitty-gritty of New Jersey politics have backfired. It would probably be wise for him, and for his career, to pull back and focus again on national issues and how they impact on New Jersey." : As Mr. Menendez helps deliver the Democratic response during the Republican convention this week, he may be keeping that in mind. : Josh Benson is a freelance writer based in Trenton. Look whose calling the kettle black? Wait until the truth about Menendez's private life comes out. It will be more revolting than McGreevey's adminission. s to th ***************** End Of Article ****************** Klayton posted Message 5308 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 30, 2004 at 23:37:37 Subject: Bobby J and Perseley are still getting paid Bobby J and his henchman, Jeff Perseley are still feasting on the contracts that their companies are getting from DeGise and his pathetic crew in the County, with the full blessing of Roberto M. Who is worse? Bobby J or Roberto and his lacky DeGise? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homo Watch posted Message 5309 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 00:42:00 Subject: Land of the Misfit Toys You are kidding yourself.. again. You gays are always "Acting Up" to get attention and the reality is you don't have the clout. Never had, never will. You are appeased by the politicians, they don't like you, they tolerate you, just like your disappointed parents and family. You know the feeling well. Only your "community" can give you that support you are missing, and even that isn't good enough as the feeling is not fulfilling. There is no organized gay community nor a gay voting block. No, not 4 years ago, not even today. Make up nice sweet names for your groups, (groups that only contain less than a handful) try to make yourselves accepted, because in the real world it won't amount to much other than making you feel self important. Face it, no one cares about you and the only reason you even get the time a day is because you are the qqueaky wheels getting the oil and they need to shut your whining up. The Gays in Jersey City are the land of the misfit toys that the kids won't play with! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wahhhhhhh posted Message 5310 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 07:07:37 Subject: Re: Bobby J and Perseley are still getting paid ::This must have Tom Gaynor crying rivers down in his precious Avon-by_the-Sea. Everyone is getting somethig except for this ultimate leech and butt kisser. : Bobby J and his henchman, Jeff Perseley are still feasting on the contracts that their companies are getting from DeGise and his pathetic crew in the County, with the full blessing of Roberto M. : Who is worse? Bobby J or Roberto and his lacky DeGise? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5311 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 07:30:31 Subject: DeGise And Gaughan to break with Xanadu Menendez And start fighting for Jersey City rightful place in HC politics.I will not be voting for Menendez ever again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's why not! posted Message 5312 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 08:58:16 Subject: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #1 of 100 He's a closet case. Lou Manzo's personal preferences are not the issue but his lack of honesty and refusal to be open with the public is. Gay activists reflecting on the McGreevey scandal suggest that hiding to be true to one's sexual identity causes deep personality disorders. These pundits go on to say that the psychological tension leads to erratic behaviour. This is easy to believe for closet cases are using lies, hypocrisy and deception as the foundation of their lives. Jersey City can't afford a metal basket case in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So you are saying posted Message 5313 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 09:04:17 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #1 of 100 ::Lou is gay? : He's a closet case. : Lou Manzo's personal preferences are not the issue but his lack of honesty and refusal to be open with the public is. : Gay activists reflecting on the McGreevey scandal suggest that hiding to be true to one's sexual identity causes deep personality disorders. These pundits go on to say that the psychological tension leads to erratic behaviour. This is easy to believe for closet cases are using lies, hypocrisy and deception as the foundation of their lives. : Jersey City can't afford a metal basket case in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Revelations posted Message 5314 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 09:16:18 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #1 of 100 Yes People....Lou is GAY. He has a big closet to hide in. He refuses to admit his preference to anyone, which appears to be the basis of a deep-seated inability to accept who he is. If you have any doubt about his "leanings" just ask his boyfriend Danny McMahon. Is his preference a reason to not vote for him? I don't think it is. Is the fact that he continues to hide in the closet, like our soon-to-be former Governor did, reason enough to vote for someone else? Very possibly. The last thing we need in JC is more scandals. : ::Lou is gay? : : He's a closet case. : : Lou Manzo's personal preferences are not the issue but his lack of honesty and refusal to be open with the public is. : : Gay activists reflecting on the McGreevey scandal suggest that hiding to be true to one's sexual identity causes deep personality disorders. These pundits go on to say that the psychological tension leads to erratic behaviour. This is easy to believe for closet cases are using lies, hypocrisy and deception as the foundation of their lives. : : Jersey City can't afford a metal basket case in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** lights, camera, action posted Message 5315 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 09:35:19 Subject: nathan lane will playthe manzo character the whole run is a scam manzo is not really aiming for mayor o'dea is pushing a movie script where nathan lane plays lou in the campaign. They are figuring they cna make more money out of it with the claim that it is based on a true story ***************** End Of Article ****************** Man in White Jacket posted Message 5316 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 10:37:00 Subject: Re: nathan lane will playthe manzo character I'm ready with my net for the time when the nut who wrote this runs by again. : the whole run is a scam manzo is not really aiming for mayor o'dea is pushing a movie script where nathan lane plays lou in the campaign. They are figuring they cna make more money out of it with the claim that it is based on a true story ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5317 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 10:38:39 Subject: Just what we dont need in Jersey City is a Flood Menendez & Kenny are right ,A Manzo before a Flood. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The ark posted Message 5318 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 10:44:12 Subject: God again sends a Flood to a sinful people. right makes might! : Menendez & Kenny are right ,A Manzo before a Flood. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I think you mean posted Message 5319 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 11:29:47 Subject: Re: nathan lane will playthe manzo character :: SKIPS : I'm ready with my net for the time when the nut who wrote this runs by again. : : the whole run is a scam manzo is not really aiming for mayor o'dea is pushing a movie script where nathan lane plays lou in the campaign. They are figuring they cna make more money out of it with the claim that it is based on a true story ***************** End Of Article ****************** Go Go posted Message 5320 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 12:15:25 Subject: Healy also starring in a movie Jerry Healy to play Paul Reuben in his life story. Pee Wee Herman goes to Bradley Beach. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood Watch posted Message 5321 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 12:16:21 Subject: Poor Willie Willie is going to get that same old familiar feeling, running for office and losing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5322 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 12:19:10 Subject: Re: Poor Willie I really feel bad for him. : Willie is going to get that same old familiar feeling, running for office and losing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 12:28:33 Subject: Re: Manzoalso starring in a movie : Jerry Healy to play Paul Reuben in his life story. Pee Wee Herman : goes to Bradley Beach. and find's Midnight Cowboy Lou Manzo in Apartment 12F in Bradley Beach with Billy and Danny. Cameo walk on by McGreevey, he's the little sweaty guy snapping the towel at Lou's behind calling him "Precious". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5324 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 12:30:58 Subject: Can Willie out drink Healy if its for free? As long as the taxpayers are paying for it, Willie will be right up there.UTN to make $300,000 off this election.What a great way to launder money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paul R posted Message 5325 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 12:32:20 Subject: Phil Flood Phil, I read in the Jersey Journal, your brother died of AIDS? I'm sorry to hear that, will your mother now announced for Mayor reach out to the Aids community? All the Best Paul ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bubble Butt Admirers! posted Message 5326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 12:33:53 Subject: Question? Question, which announced mayoral candidate has the nicest bubble butt? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Go Go posted Message 5327 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 13:01:14 Subject: Healy PEE WEE FOR MAYOR! ***************** End Of Article ****************** x posted Message 5328 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 13:10:15 Subject: PEE WEE FOR MAYOR PEE WEE FOR MAYOR OF BRADLEY BEACH> ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here is why! posted Message 5329 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 13:59:51 Subject: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #2 of 100 Lou Manzo will punish the Heights to get even with Degise and Gaughan. We need someone who will be mayor of all of Jersey City. Jersey City can't afford a civil war run from the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Revelations posted Message 5330 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 14:25:19 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #2 of 100 Sorry.....don't buy this one. Sounds like paranoia to me. : Lou Manzo will punish the Heights to get even with Degise and Gaughan. : We need someone who will be mayor of all of Jersey City. : Jersey City can't afford a civil war run from the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom P posted Message 5331 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 14:29:25 Subject: Manzo pulling away This poll has just come in done by the Manzo Camp 450 responded : The phone poll was done from Aug 23 to Aug 29 Manzo 38% Smith 18 % Healy 16% Flood 13 % Buonocore 6 % Allen 3% Buonocore 3 % Carrol 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEIGHTS posted Message 5332 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 14:34:33 Subject: Re: Healy also starring in a movie : GET A LIFE YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!HEALY WILL BE OUR MAYOR IN NOVEMBER !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's why not! posted Message 5333 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 14:53:37 Subject: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #3 of 100 If Lou Manzo is mayor, McCann will be back in city hall. This will mean a return of the racism and financial impropriety that McCann was notorious for. Jersey City can't afford divisive politics and irresponsible fiscal practices in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 5334 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 14:55:05 Subject: Wow. That Buonocore is pretty tricky. He's on the list twice. Must be his clone. :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5335 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 15:02:38 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking Radio Show of August 30, 2004 To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom P posted Message 5336 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 15:07:31 Subject: Re:correction*** : This poll has just come in done by the Manzo Camp 450 responded : : The phone poll was done from Aug 23 to Aug 29 : : Manzo 38% : Smith 18 % : Healy 16% : Flood 13 % : Buonocore 6 % : Allen 3% ***: Carroll 3% :*** other 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're not even mildly amusing posted Message 5337 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 15:14:28 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #2 of 100 ::DeGise and Gaughan will be punished when they hear the announcement, "...And the winner is...Lou Manzo!" : Lou Manzo will punish the Heights to get even with Degise and Gaughan. : We need someone who will be mayor of all of Jersey City. : Jersey City can't afford a civil war run from the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now, that's not tricky posted Message 5338 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 15:16:17 Subject: Re: Wow. ::That's politics as usual in Jersey City ;) : That Buonocore is pretty tricky. He's on the list twice. Must be his clone. : :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Translation posted Message 5339 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 15:17:16 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #3 of 100 ::I ain't gonna get me no cushy City job. : If Lou Manzo is mayor, McCann will be back in city hall. : This will mean a return of the racism and financial impropriety that McCann was notorious for. : Jersey City can't afford divisive politics and irresponsible fiscal practices in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** x posted Message 5340 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 15:20:22 Subject: Jerry Healy AKA PEE WEE HERMAN PEE WEE HERMAN FOR MAYOR OF BRADLEY BEACH ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chill pill posted Message 5341 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 15:21:08 Subject: Re: Healy also starring in a movie ::Heights girl (or Irishprincess-HAHA) - take a chill pill. Idiots like you, surrounding Healy, are the reason he will lose. : : GET A LIFE YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!HEALY WILL BE OUR MAYOR IN NOVEMBER !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 5342 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 16:07:58 Subject: GOES TO SHOW GOES TO SHOW Urban Times News August 27, 2004 - September 2, 2004 On Tuesday August 17th, the Glenn D. Cunningham Branch Library and Community Center was officially opened to the public. Though there was a ribbon-cutting ceremony performed by the Acting Mayor, the event was most assuredly focused on the beloved, popular, political icon Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. The event was an auspicious occasion, hosted by NAACP President and resident orator Kabili Tayari. A large white tent that could house about one hundred guests and speakers was erected in the middle of Martin Luther King Drive, requiring traffic to be redirected around Myrtle and Bostwick Avenues. City and state dignitaries were present including U.S Attorney Christopher Christie, and of course the mayor's widow, Sandra Bolden Cunningham. The dedication lasted over two-hours with comments from friends and colleagues alike, none the least of which were those offered by Mrs. Cunningham herself. She raised a rousing ovation behind her comments on the legacy of the late mayor, echoed by the U.S. Attorney. "Only two of the City Council's members could see the seeds," she said referring to Councilman Steven Lipsky and Councilwoman Viola Richardson, the only City Council members who supported Cunningham's policies and political direction. "Not all Hudson County mayors, not all Jersey City congressmen saw the seed. He stood alone because he realized he had to be unbought and unbossed." Christie supported this sentiment saying, "He (Cunningham) stood for the people who elected him mayor and senator. Stand for something and have integrity - that's what Glenn would demand. Enough is enough! It is time to take this government back." A satisfying aside to the event was the participation of students from the Library's Miller Branch. They held up letter-shaped placards that spelled out Glenn Dale Cunningham stirring a latent tear in many eyes of the crowd. An equally unsatisfying aside was the attempt of Acting Mayor Smith to usurp the mood of the event by presenting a citation to the group, Kool & the Gang. While they remain Jersey City natives worthy of recognition, this was clearly not the time. It just goes to show how considerate our Acting Mayor is. Unfortunately, Acting Mayor Council President L. Harvey Smith had not gone to the ceremony with the same reverent heart as all the other well-wishers and observers honoring Glenn D. Cunningham and the first of many monuments to his legacy. Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith only came for his show. In an attempt to secure some response to letters that were sent to the Acting Mayor, citizens from the Currywood Housing Project staged a morning demonstration outside City Hall on Tuesday morning. Their picket was an outcry against the escalating violence in their area, in particular the shooting deaths of two Jersey City youths, Michael Taylor and Michael Henderson. The delegation included the boys' families, friends, and local ministers the Rev. George Saab and the Rev. Michael Thomson. About fifteen people met with the Acting Mayor in hopes of hearing some explanation why he failed to acknowledge the grieving families, and what would be done about the incidence of violent crime in their area. According to an aunt Delores Altenor, "He (Acting Mayor City Council President L. Harvey Smith) said he was doing his best to clean up the police department and that he had fired the police chief. The city has only 800 police. He didn't see my family because a police officer was murdered that same night. I said, 'my nephew's life isn't worth as much as a police officer?' Even a five minute phone call would have meant something." Mrs. Altenor added, "That was something that would have never happened if Glenn Cunningham was around. His (Acting Mayor Council President) explanation for not responding to our letters was that he was preparing a response, but when we wrote to other officials, they responded. I got phone calls from Mr. Manzo and Mr. Corzine's offices, and Mr. Chiappone called and wrote a letter to the Mayor Smith himself." When asked if there would be any action taken, she remembered, "He did say he would schedule a follow-up meeting next Tuesday." The Urban Times News called the Mayor's office to confirm when and where, but received no return call. It just goes to show. That same day, the Acting Mayor "fired" the Chief of Police, Ronald Buonocore. Upon his ascendance to the Mayor's office, Smith attempted to fire Buonocore in his sweep of former Cunningham loyalists and personnel from city administration. This, in the midst of his "open door" policy, intended to maintain calm and order in the midst of Jersey City's grief. Before their court date, they reached an "amiable" settlement. Buonocore stayed. He has since made public his intention to run in the November elections. While not officially discharging the Police Chief from his position the Acting Mayor has justified his actions with the assertion that, "He went on vacation. He didn't leave the payroll. I took him off the payroll." In. an election race that will likely include several more working public officials, including the Acting Mayor himself, the imperative of unpaid for the Police Chief at this juncture seems a bit targeted. This goes to show just how amiable our Acting Mayor can be. The Urban Times inquiries called the office of the Acting Mayor about the dismissal of the police chief also, but received ... you know what happened. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5343 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 16:47:50 Subject: Xanandu to Menendez is as banks were to Willie Sutton Healy, DeGise, Gaughan follow Porky Pig at the expense of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Librarian posted Message 5344 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 17:55:05 Subject: Books only at the Cunningham Library These books are only available at the Cunningham Public Library. The New Uncle Tom's Cabin, How Cunningham played the Whiteman's Political System and Got Ahead. Wear Your Afro Proudly, My Early Political 'Daze' Double Dealing Congressman Porky Pig - Take his money and vote against him in the morning! Miss Vicky How I become an Black Icon Hudson County Politics as Usual - How My Political Friends Used Me! How to Make Your Widow a Millionaire - Many Public Pensions Do Come in Handy. What to do with all the Campaign money. Introduce by Jackson and Cardwell. My Wife, My Senator, My Nightmare City Management 101 - Contracts for all my friends Bicycling for Idiots ***************** End Of Article ****************** FUNNY -FUNNY -HA -HA- posted Message 5345 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 20:22:22 Subject: Re: Books only at the Cunningham Library OMG- NOW THAT"S JUST WRONG...... VERY FUNNY but, VERY WRONG...... LMAO :o) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stephanie Queen posted Message 5346 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 20:28:47 Subject: Re: Books only at the Cunningham Library You left out my favorite summer reading: 1)HOW TO BOINK YOUR CUZ AND DOING IT WITHOUT DYING! AND 2)HOW TO COVER UP THE TRUE STORY OF SOMEONE'S DEATH TO KEEP THE JACKSON, CARDWELL AND DRAYTON PAY DAY! AND MY FAVORITE.... 3)The unauthorized bio of Eugene Drayton... 5 easy steps to moving in on a dead mans wife. ***************** End Of Article ****************** yeah a real phone poll...NOT! posted Message 5347 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 31, 2004 at 21:32:44 Subject: Re: Manzo pulling away Who did they call? Must be all those near death seniors who McCann gets to sign (sic) the "absentee ballots" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5348 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 07:54:42 Subject: $300,000 Payday for UTN at the end of Willie Flood Campaign Scam. How much will Willie get out of it from Cardwell & Jackson. That is the big question.UTN gets Glenn Warchest one way or the other. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's why not! posted Message 5349 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 08:10:05 Subject: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #4 of 100 Lou Manzo was a Hudson County freeholder under the rule of the corrupt Bobby J. Every time Janiszewski and his crowd go to court people will wonder how much Lou Manzo knew. Jersey City can't afford a cloud of suspicion in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sounds lame to me posted Message 5350 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 08:23:05 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #4 of 100 Ok...then by the same logic I suppose anyone who was in Congress, while Bill Clinton was getting blow j-bs from Monica, should also be disqualified from running for President. Afterall...they must have known something.... Your logic is ridiculous. And no...I don't support Lou. : Lou Manzo was a Hudson County freeholder under the rule of the corrupt Bobby J. : Every time Janiszewski and his crowd go to court people will wonder how much Lou Manzo knew. : Jersey City can't afford a cloud of suspicion in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You get dumber by the minute posted Message 5351 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 08:52:33 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #4 of 100 ::OMG! I better get some kind of witness protection. I was (and still am) a resident and voter of Jersey City/Hudson County. Talk into the flower pot please. Nit wit. : Lou Manzo was a Hudson County freeholder under the rule of the corrupt Bobby J. : Every time Janiszewski and his crowd go to court people will wonder how much Lou Manzo knew. : Jersey City can't afford a cloud of suspicion in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Socrates posted Message 5352 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 12:37:54 Subject: Don't vote for Healy because 1 Gaughan 2 DeGise 3 Demelier 4 Alochol 5 Alcohol 6 Alcohol 7 Bradley Beach 8 Look at the shape of the JC Heights now(their home turf) 9 The shape of the County Government 10 Brett Schundler ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5353 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 13:16:57 Subject: Xanadu Menendez tells the Gang"Its Healy or Bust" Porky Pig is running out of patience with DeGise & Gaughan .He tells Senator Kenny, this is there last chance to stay in the Political Crime Family in HC.Its win or they are out.Also all bars in HC will be closed to them forever. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5354 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 14:01:26 Subject: NJN Online Video: Hudson County Republican Delegate Theresa deLeon To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Jr. posted Message 5355 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 14:02:22 Subject: Menendez to endorse Willie Flood I just left the meeting along with Bill Ayala, Bobby Jackson & Joe Cardwell, Bob Menendez will be endorsing my mom. We will now see who is goning to me mayor now. MRS WILLIE FLOOD, MAYOR ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 5356 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 14:16:30 Subject: I'll believe it ... when I see it . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yeah and..... posted Message 5357 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 15:00:44 Subject: Re: Menendez to endorse Willie Flood ...All the candidates announced they are all pulling out. Fllod is a real force to be reckoned with... despite she couldn't even win at large in 1997. Drink the Kool-Aid, you actually believe those has been fools? They want to get there hands on Cunningham's campaign money, that's all. Her own Board of Ed members can't stand her. Wake up and welcome to reality Phil, someone was right, you do live in the Land of Make Believe! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEIGHTS posted Message 5358 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 15:15:00 Subject: Re: VOTE FOR HEALY : IF YOU WANT JERSEY CITY TO BE A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND A MUCH SAFER PLACE TO LIVE. HEALY IS THE ONLY CANIDATE YOU WILL DO WHAT HE SAYS HE WILL. THE REST ARE ALL POLITICAL BS ARTISTS. HEALY FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEIGHTS posted Message 5359 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 15:15:07 Subject: Re: VOTE FOR HEALY : IF YOU WANT JERSEY CITY TO BE A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND A MUCH SAFER PLACE TO LIVE. HEALY IS THE ONLY CANIDATE YOU WILL DO WHAT HE SAYS HE WILL. THE REST ARE ALL POLITICAL BS ARTISTS. HEALY FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Absurd posted Message 5360 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 15:38:08 Subject: You have now given us reason to ignore you You are obviously .... and idiot. Had you said that his votes were misguided..Or that he was uninformed about issues...or anything else...ok. But you are obviously grasping at straws. When there is SO much you could have listed....your first four REASONS were total BULLSH-T. So now you are relegated to the political dumpster with the rest of the fools aligned with H-A-R-V-E-Y. : Lou Manzo was a Hudson County freeholder under the rule of the corrupt Bobby J. : Every time Janiszewski and his crowd go to court people will wonder how much Lou Manzo knew. : Jersey City can't afford a cloud of suspicion in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So Sad.... posted Message 5361 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 15:39:42 Subject: Re: VOTE FOR HEALY you people are so misguided...its really kind of pathetic. : : IF YOU WANT JERSEY CITY TO BE A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND A MUCH SAFER PLACE TO LIVE. HEALY IS THE ONLY CANIDATE YOU WILL DO WHAT HE SAYS HE WILL. THE REST ARE ALL POLITICAL BS ARTISTS. HEALY FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ***************** End Of Article ****************** PEE WEE FOR MAYOR OF BRADLEY BEACH posted Message 5362 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 16:13:21 Subject: PEE WEE FOR MAYOR OF BRADLEY BEACH PEE WEE FOR MAYOR OF BRADLEY BEACH ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5363 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 16:27:15 Subject: Heights Cunningham Club to become Flood for Mayor Office Sources relate that there are plans for the Heights Cunningham Club (on Griffith Street) to be used as a Flood for Mayor office. A number of the original members of Heights Cunningham organization are joining the Manzo campaign. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5364 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 16:35:06 Subject: Cunningham said Menendez is evil- Flood wants Menendez Support What does that say about Willie"NO Brains" Flood.Its all about the $300,000 Warchest that belongs to Glenn. He must be rolling over in his grave over sell out Willie, Who hates White People. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who is Doing the PR - Kay Licausi ? posted Message 5365 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 16:38:18 Subject: Kiss Of Death Menendez is The Kiss Of Death --- : I just left the meeting along with Bill Ayala, Bobby Jackson & Joe Cardwell, Bob Menendez will be endorsing my mom. We will now see who is goning to me mayor now. : MRS WILLIE FLOOD, MAYOR ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tool Time posted Message 5366 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 17:17:19 Subject: What a Tool - Pat O'Melia Does anybody really listen to this show? He's such a tool. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BREAKING NEWS posted Message 5367 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 17:23:59 Subject: HEALY TO DROP OUT OF RACE A press conference is being held tommorow at Pershing Field. Jerry Healy will be dropping out of the mayoral race due to personal reasons. Bill Gaughan will be Healy's replacement for the November 2nd election. MORE TO COME. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Angry JC Taxpayer posted Message 5368 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 17:26:09 Subject: Cunningham's cash Mayor Cunningham was a man of the People With all that Cunningham camapign cash sitting around and all those greedy hangers on trying to get their hands on it.. Why not use it for the people? For the taxpayers! Paydown Glenn's extravangant taxpayer paid funeral with it! The taxpayers of this City are picking up the expenses for it, why shouldn't the money be used for good instead of ego strokes and someone elses push for mayor! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nicky 344 posted Message 5369 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 17:28:58 Subject: Re: HEALY TO DROP OUT OF RACE I have heard the same thing earlier today. What a bombshell ! : A press conference is being held tommorow at Pershing Field. Jerry Healy will be dropping out of the mayoral race due to personal reasons. Bill Gaughan will be Healy's replacement for the November 2nd election. MORE TO COME. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Break news NOT! posted Message 5370 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 17:29:21 Subject: Another Lie NOT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black widow posted Message 5371 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 17:30:53 Subject: Re: HEALY TO DROP OUT OF RACE It is true. : I have heard the same thing earlier today. What a bombshell ! : : A press conference is being held tommorow at Pershing Field. Jerry Healy will be dropping out of the mayoral race due to personal reasons. Bill Gaughan will be Healy's replacement for the November 2nd election. MORE TO COME. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Breaking News NOT! posted Message 5372 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 17:31:04 Subject: NOT! Another double post, look at your post times! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soothsayer posted Message 5373 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 17:32:31 Subject: Je rky! Yeah and Bret Schundler will be Gov! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey Smith for Mayor. posted Message 5374 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 17:34:09 Subject: Healy out Gaughan in Ball game is over. Harvey Smith will be mayor. Gaughan is a weak canidate no one likes that ODB. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr posted Message 5375 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 17:36:04 Subject: Flood for Mayor Just heard, All candidates dropped out, afraid of the on coming Flood! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaynor watch posted Message 5376 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 17:37:04 Subject: Tom Gaynor Is that you again Tom Gaynor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** MD posted Message 5377 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 17:37:43 Subject: Re: HEALY is OUT OF RACE Not a lie. I saw Jack Byrnes around 3 pm he said it was true. : A press conference is being held tommorow at Pershing Field. Jerry Healy will be dropping out of the mayoral race due to personal reasons. Bill Gaughan will be Healy's replacement for the November 2nd election. MORE TO COME. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5378 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 18:39:53 Subject: Doria wnts Harvey Smith Or Nobody Menendez told to go take a hike by Doria. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pasta Tensa posted Message 5379 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 18:44:40 Subject: Does it matter. . . that Gaughan lives in Wall? ***************** End Of Article ****************** In The Know posted Message 5380 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 19:46:14 Subject: Saw Healy at 6pm Saw Healy at 6pm, he is NOT dropping out. He laughed at the suggestion and said it was the Manzo McCann's goons hopes as they just painted up one of his workers new cars with White Enamel paint out side his HQ again! This is all typical McCann dirty tricks! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5381 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 19:47:11 Subject: Re: Does it matter. . . Nope, as long as it's not Apartment 12F ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5382 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 21:10:18 Subject: Opportunity Knocks. I think I will throw my hat in the ring now. I will get the Catholic vote, the Italian vote and, unlike Mr. Gaughan, the gay vote. Gays just love me !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5383 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 21:14:34 Subject: Two Words. Two words for you Phil. Phoenix House !!! Bwahahahahahahaha !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lady Godiva posted Message 5384 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 21:17:57 Subject: Give the man a break !!! There is nothing wrong with a little nudity once in a while. Does Bradley Beach permit horses on the street ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Danny Mc posted Message 5385 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 22:20:45 Subject: Manzo Manzo... lover of men! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEIGHTS posted Message 5386 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 22:37:32 Subject: Re: HEALY TO DROP OUT OF RACE : HEALY IS NOT DROPPING OUT. WHAT A STUPID RUMOR THE MAN JUST HAD 300 PEOPLE AT HIS HEADQUARTERS AND REASSURED EVERYONE HE IS IN IT TO WIN IT!!THESE RUMORS ARE SO OUT OF CONTROL! MANZO IS JUST SO NERVOUS TO LOSE AND KNOWS HE WILL AGAIN BE A LOSER SO HE WILL TRY ANYTHING TO TURN PEOPLE AGAINST HEALY! INTHE END HEALY WILL BE OUR MAYOR IN NOVEMBER !! HEALY FOR MAYOR! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO posted Message 5387 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 23:10:25 Subject: Re: Two Words. : Two words for you Phil. : Phoenix House !!! : Bwahahahahahahaha !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now u have me confused....widow....u seem so floodable but, now????? posted Message 5388 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 01, 2004 at 23:52:50 Subject: Re: Just what we dont need in Jersey City is a Flood : Menendez & Kenny are right ,A Manzo before a Flood. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just a small question posted Message 5389 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 06:57:09 Subject: Re: Saw Healy at 6pm ::: First, what do you mean again? Second, which headquarters? Third, could it be the Jimmy King sign painter doing this? Everyone knows who he is now aligned with & he does like to paint. ;) : Saw Healy at 6pm, he is NOT dropping out. : He laughed at the suggestion and said it was the Manzo McCann's goons hopes as they just painted up one of his workers new cars with White Enamel paint out side his HQ again! : This is all typical McCann dirty tricks! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doesn't matter posted Message 5390 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 06:58:27 Subject: Re: Give the man a break !!! : There is nothing wrong with a little nudity once in a while. : Does Bradley Beach permit horses on the street ? - We can all head for Long Beach! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get a life Tom posted Message 5391 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 07:00:30 Subject: Re: Does it matter. . . ::::Does poor Nancy know? : Nope, as long as it's not Apartment 12F ***************** End Of Article ****************** fairly balanced posted Message 5392 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 07:06:18 Subject: Bill Gaughan, Bloodsu.cker of Jersey City Thought politically dead in 2001, because of the influence of evil forces, rapacious and foul, this purveyor of corpses continues to prey on Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** fairly balanced posted Message 5393 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 07:08:00 Subject: Tom Degise, Political Corpse Jolted Back to Life Degise was consigned to the political morgue by the voters of Jersey City in 2001. He continues to terrorize the community because of the irresponsible and reckless actions of the power mad Bob Menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WILLIAM posted Message 5394 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 07:44:15 Subject: MAKE LOTS OF EASY MONEY GREAT WAY TO MAKE MONEY-READ THIS!!!!!! Think about this for a minute, "What if everyone on Earth on gave you a dollar." HOW TO TURN $6 INTO $6,000!!!!!! READING THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE! I found this on a bulletin board and decided to try it. A little while back, I was browsing through nwsgrups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousnds of dolars within weks with only an initial investment of $6.00! So I thought, Yeah right, this must be a scam,but like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 or (1.00 Euro) to each of the 6 names and address stated in the article. 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NOTE: You may want to retain every name and addres sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might be a good idea to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the list and you're in business! ---DIRECTIONS ----- FOR HOW TO PST TO NEWSGRUPS------------ Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this leter and drag your cursor to the botom of this doument, and select 'copy' from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computer's memory. Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name to the list. Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to do your postings in different settings, you'll always have this file to go back to. Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for various newsgroups (on-line forms, message boards, chat sites, discussions.) Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the post message button. You're done with your first one! Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to diffeent newsgrups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGRUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MNEY YOU WILL MKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625,00! With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday?, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, & quote; what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the internet and newsgoups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual internet. Remember: play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Congressman Bob Menendez posted Message 5395 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 07:58:54 Subject: Re: MAKE LOTS OF EASY MONEY Nahhh, I think I'll stick to my public life, public pension and awarding contracts to my girlfriend and party favorites. It's easier that way! ***************** End Of Article ****************** William posted Message 5396 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 08:03:16 Subject: MAKE LOTS OF EASY MONEY Con an influential Congressman into backing your buddy for County Exec. Once the gravy trains rolls into the station, put all your lazy, of no account relations on the payroll for noshow jobs ***************** End Of Article ****************** In the Know posted Message 5397 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 08:07:41 Subject: Jimmy King You mean that nice old man on the billboard sign by Observer Hwy and Summit Ave holding that crippled little Kid. The sign is for the Jimmy King Assn? I understand that billboard is bad luck, the political kiss of death. Kevin Sluka aka Millinium Man had that spot a year before the mayor's race in 2001, Kevin who you say?... enough said Nope it's McCann's crew, got it on survellience camera. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uberhippy posted Message 5398 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 08:31:54 Subject: As the Millenium Man had half the billboards around town As half the billboards around town had Sluka's Millenium Man slogan (a confusing message for 2001), it'd be hard to pin the hoodoo on any particular spot. I'd say the jinx was in not clearly stating a simple message -- something like FOR MAYOR IN 2001. : You mean that nice old man on the billboard sign by Observer Hwy and Summit Ave holding that crippled little Kid. The sign is for the Jimmy King Assn? : I understand that billboard is bad luck, the political kiss of death. Kevin Sluka aka Millinium Man had that spot a year before the mayor's race in 2001, Kevin who you say?... enough said : Nope it's McCann's crew, got it on survellience camera. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 1st Amendment posted Message 5399 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 08:34:26 Subject: CENSORSHIP Why is this board deleting selective and non offensive messages about Congressman Porky Pig?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5400 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 08:44:56 Subject: The prime imperative I don't allow someone to post using the name of an actual person if that's not who you are. You can post anonymously. You can post using your own name. You can't identify yourself as someone else. You can play cute and use just the firstname, a nickname, or something else along those lines. The imprtant thing is that it's obvious to all that the point is satire. I don't want the confusion of fraudulently attributed statements. : Why is this board deleting selective and non offensive messages about Congressman Porky Pig?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5401 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 09:02:37 Subject: The best way to get rid of Porky Pig Menendez Vote him out of Office.Then we will be Menendez "free"in Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's why not! posted Message 5402 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 09:18:18 Subject: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #5 of 100 Lou Manzo's brother Ron pleaded guilty to insider trading and was involved with corrupt McGreevey crony Garey Taffet. Even if Lou Manzo was not involved, a criminal relative will be a constant source bad press for Jersey City. Jersey City can't afford attention diverted from important business in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just say NOW! posted Message 5403 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 09:28:06 Subject: Hard Grove is a public nuisance Eatery ordered closed Health official says complaints mounted Thursday, September 02, 2004 By Earl Morgan Journal staff writer Jersey City health officers shut down the Hard Grove Cafe yesterday after the Department of Health received a number of complaints from people who allegedly became ill after eating there, city officials said. Sergio Lamboy, director of the city's Department of Health and Human Services, said inspectors ordered the restaurant, located at Grove Street and Christopher Columbus Drive, to close pending further inspection yesterday afternoon. Sources in the health department said inadequate refrigeration was among the problems uncovered during the last inspection. The date of that inspection could not be determined. Hard Grove owner Domenic Santana called the closing "political," and denied that anyone became sick from eating at his establishment. "In 10 years, I've never had any complaints," Santana said. "This is all happening because I'm backing a candidate and they know at City Hall when I dig a trench I dig it deep." Santana is backing Jersey City Police Chief Ronald Buonocore, who has announced his intention to be a candidate in the special election in November to fill the unexpired term of the late Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. Cunningham died May 25 after suffering a massive heart attack. Santana's name appears on an Election Law Enforcement Commission application, filed Aug. 10, as the chairman of the "Buonocore for Mayor" candidacy committee. Buonocore will be running against acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith, who was the late mayor's political rival and who as president of the City Council assumed the mayor's office at the time of Cunningham's death. Santana was a close ally of Cunningham and the late mayor appointed him to a position on the Jersey City Incinerator Authority. Cunningham was also a regular guest in Santana's Asbury Park home. Roger Jones, the acting mayor's chief of staff, denied any political involvement by City Hall in the decision to shut the restaurant down. "The health department took the action it did because of complaints from people who said they got sick after they ate there," Jones said. "Politics had nothing to do with it." Similarly, Lamboy said he spoke to Santana a.t home by phone before the restaurant was shut down and assured him that the health department's action was not predicated on political considerations. "This had nothing to do with politics," Lamboy said "When we get complaints from people we have to act. When the inspectors arrived they found problems and the decision was made to close the place." Lamboy could not give the exact number of complaints the health department received concerning the Hard Grove but indicated there had been more than one and confirmed that the Hard Grove has had prior difficulties with health inspections. "In the past they've received warnings about conditions Domenic was told to correct," Lamboy said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5404 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 09:35:42 Subject: The Malocchio Those Millenium Man billboards were the brainchild of Tony Grazioso. Talk about someone having the horns on them. Tony sank poor Sluka. Then he hooked up with Glenn and the poor man died. Beware of the evil eye. It is upon Grazioso. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You get worse by the moment posted Message 5405 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 09:47:10 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #5 of 100 ::What about Jimmy Carter & the "Democrat Icon" Bill Clinton? Their brothers' shenanigans certainly didn't seem to bother them. Let's not forget a certain Councilman's family. His son-in-law is an embarrassment - talk about a rock around ones neck. No excuses are made there. Nope, keep trying. : Lou Manzo's brother Ron pleaded guilty to insider trading and was involved with corrupt McGreevey crony Garey Taffet. : Even if Lou Manzo was not involved, a criminal relative will be a constant source bad press for Jersey City. : Jersey City can't afford attention diverted from important business in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** x posted Message 5406 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 10:56:55 Subject: Re: Give the credit 1 inch horses ? Maybe a paper clip. : : There is nothing wrong with a little nudity once in a while. : : Does Bradley Beach permit horses on the street ? - We can all head for Long Beach! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Katie posted Message 5407 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 10:59:52 Subject: Re: The best way to get rid of Porky Pig Menendez The only way Menendez is out is to vote for Manzo. : Vote him out of Office.Then we will be Menendez "free"in Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy For Mayor posted Message 5408 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 12:14:59 Subject: Healy For Mayor Kickoff Party 9/14/04 Announcing The Healy For Mayor Campaign Kickoff Party! Tuesday September 14th, 2004 @ Casino In The Park Call (201) 795-1166 or (201) 795-1660 to purchase tickets. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5409 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 15:19:02 Subject: Zell Miller is a American Hero-Menendez is Porky Pig People like Zell Miller is why America is so Great.Menendez is why the Democratic Party has lost its Way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 5410 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 15:27:22 Subject: Zell Miller is a lunatic .. Like you Compare the message of hope, unity and inclusion given by Democratic keynoter Barack Obama to the message of hate and division give by Zig Zag Zell. There is no comparison. Zell is better off in the Republican Party. He is an old time Dixiecrat who supported racial segregation for years. BTW .. it was fun to watch Chris Matthews get Zell's goat. Hope this post stays up long enough for you to read it. :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tweety posted Message 5411 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 15:28:26 Subject: Re: Zell Miller is a American Hero-Menendez is Porky Pig Great, maybe Zell can have a duel with Menendez after he finishes with Chris Matthews. : People like Zell Miller is why America is so Great.Menendez is why the Democratic Party has lost its Way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEIGHTS posted Message 5412 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 16:03:03 Subject: Re: VOTE FOR HEALY---2004 GO HEALY!!!! :) : YOU ARE PATHETIC! HEALY WILL WIN THIE RACY MARK MY WORDS!!!!! GO HEALY !! : : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** the sweeper posted Message 5413 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 17:31:57 Subject: Gaughan and Degise support Healy! cause he is to drunk to walk! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5414 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 17:45:25 Subject: GOP Volunteers at the Apple Tree House in Jersey City As part of the Republican National Convention, 200 Young Republicans are traveling around the tri‑state area to help give something back to the Convention's host community. Hudson County GOP Chair Jose Arango worked in conjunction with Kate Whitman, Governor Whitman's daughter, to bring these volunteers into Jersey City. At the historic Apple Tree House in Jersey City, the volunteers spent 4 hours weeding, clearing and pruning the greenery, painting the fence, and planting a macintosh tree. This project included bi‑partisan participation, with Mayor L. Harvey Smith stopping by to welcome the young volunteers, and the Jersey City Division of Parks and Forestry who supplied tools, dumpsters and some manpower. When all was said and done, 4 dumpsters were filled with debris and the Apple Tree House grounds received a long‑overdue face lift. MTV's Rock the Vote reporters were on site, as well as local newspapers and TV. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5415 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 18:30:02 Subject: New Poll Results 1-- Manzo 2---Flood 3--Smith 4---Healy 5----Buonocore 6----Carroll. Lou Manzo holds a 10% margin over Flood.Lets get on with the next mayoral race in June 2005. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5416 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 18:37:31 Subject: Hudson County GOPers at the Convention Jersey City Republican Committeewoman Joan Introcasso, Young Republican Jim Miller and HC Chairman Jose Arango at the Republican National Convention in New York City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joe I posted Message 5417 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 20:11:47 Subject: Mayors race who is leading the pack ???? Harvey Jerry Louie Ronnie ***************** End Of Article ****************** Give me a break posted Message 5418 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 21:02:20 Subject: Re: GOP Volunteers at the Apple Tree House in Jersey City Does Jose... Real name Joseph, uses Jose for the Hispanic vote, still doing the nasty on his city hall desk with Mary Anne? Yes, yes I know, he made her honorable... silly girl. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Slap down posted Message 5419 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 21:04:33 Subject: Re: Hudson County GOPers at the Convention Jim a young republican???? ... he looks very gay! And Jose, you make the call. Summit house huh? ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO Pollster posted Message 5420 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 21:05:44 Subject: Re: New Poll Results I got your poll.. right here ***************** End Of Article ****************** Indians for Healy posted Message 5421 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 21:08:02 Subject: RHadley Hadley is a Healy Guy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bob Mancuso posted Message 5422 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 21:12:36 Subject: How sweet Jim is so sweet looking, he's definately a log cabin Republican. I wish he would post his phone number, so i can add him to my black book along with Louis, Billy, Danny, Phil (fill me up) and All the boys from the Knights of Columbus on West Side! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5423 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 22:33:09 Subject: Think about it Think about it, right about now, Lou Manzo had a big old juicy man thing in his mouth and pleasing his lover.. yeah our NEXT MAYOR, right! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Man lover posted Message 5424 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 22:51:17 Subject: Reason #5 Not to Vote for Manzo : Think about it, right about now, Lou Manzo had a big old juicy man thing in his mouth and pleasing his lover.. yeah our NEXT MAYOR, right! ***************** End Of Article ****************** jcia posted Message 5425 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 02, 2004 at 23:36:02 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #5 of 100 : ::What about Jimmy Carter & the "Democrat Icon" Bill Clinton? Their brothers' shenanigans certainly didn't seem to bother them. Let's not forget a certain Councilman's family. His son-in-law is an embarrassment - talk about a rock around ones neck. No excuses are made there. : Nope, keep trying. : : : Lou Manzo's brother Ron pleaded guilty to insider trading and was involved with corrupt McGreevey crony Garey Taffet. : : Even if Lou Manzo was not involved, a criminal relative will be a constant source bad press for Jersey City. ::::Dixon is a nightmare with a rap sheet but you should see what he's married to. That's the whole mill, not just one stone. At least Carter and Clinton didn't make their millstones our burdens by putting them on the payroll. : : Jersey City can't afford attention diverted from important business in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5426 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 04:24:03 Subject: Hudson County GOPers at the Convention Jersey City Republican Committeewoman Joan Introcasso, Young Republican Jim Miller and HC Chairman Jose Arango at the Republican National Convention in New York City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Indians for Healy posted Message 5427 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 04:45:38 Subject: RHadley Hadley is a Healy Guy! : As part of the Republican National Convention, 200 Young Republicans are traveling around the tri‑state area to help give something back to the Convention's host community. Hudson County GOP Chair Jose Arango worked in conjunction with Kate Whitman, Governor Whitman's daughter, to bring these volunteers into Jersey City. At the historic Apple Tree House in Jersey City, the volunteers spent 4 hours weeding, clearing and pruning the greenery, painting the fence, and planting a macintosh tree. This project included bi‑partisan participation, with Mayor L. Harvey Smith stopping by to welcome the young volunteers, and the Jersey City Division of Parks and Forestry who supplied tools, dumpsters and some manpower. When all was said and done, 4 dumpsters were filled with debris and the Apple Tree House grounds received a long‑overdue face lift. MTV's Rock the Vote reporters were on site, as well as local newspapers and TV. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5428 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 08:11:49 Subject: Menendez & Kenny playing all the Mayoral candidates aagainst each other They are spreading the Xanadu money around. They want to cover all bases.Porky Pig must be voted out of Office by the Jersey City Voters.Menendez is no Zell Miller. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The GOP Drill Sgt posted Message 5429 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 08:18:05 Subject: Re: GOP Volunteers at the Apple Tree House in Jersey City With that suit on, I wonder how much work Joey Arrango really did, or as usual did he stand around, watch and bark instructions? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sy Sperling posted Message 5430 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 08:46:45 Subject: Re: Hudson County GOPers at the Convention Jim Miller is too Old to be a young Republican ***************** End Of Article ****************** go healy posted Message 5431 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 09:07:33 Subject: Re: Gaughan and Degise support Healy! because they know he is the only candidate who deserves to be the next mayor of Jersey City!!!!! you are an idiot!!! go jerry ! healy for myor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's why not! posted Message 5432 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 09:29:35 Subject: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #6 of 100 Jimmy King supports Lou Manzo. Whatever King is for anybody in their right mind should be against. Jersey City can't afford primitive crony politics in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 5433 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 09:43:19 Subject: Don't you love those ... devious evil liberals ? :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 5434 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 09:47:52 Subject: Arango is ... so slimy it's oozing through my computer's screen. Ack. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You are an idiot posted Message 5435 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 09:54:21 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #6 of 100 :::Drayton gave us Troy Washington and he supports BUONOCORE. Angel Valentin, who SMITH wants to replace Ed Santiago with supported Lou in the past. If you look up the word nepotism in the dictionary, it has a picture of Gaughan. He supports HEALY. Keep trying, you still have 94 chances to get something right. : Jimmy King supports Lou Manzo. : Whatever King is for anybody in their right mind should be against. : Jersey City can't afford primitive crony politics in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5436 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 10:22:01 Subject: Bret Schundler at the GOP Convention Frmr. Jersey City Mayor and Gubernatorial Candidate Bret Schundler, Hudson County GOP Chair Jose Arango, His wife, Hudson County Republican State Committeewoman Maryanne Kelleher-Arango, and New Jersey Assemblyman Paul DiGaetano ***************** End Of Article ****************** WHAT A JOKE posted Message 5437 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 10:52:00 Subject: Menendez On Kerry's "Truth Squad " ??? MENENDEZ ON KERRY'S "TRUTH SQUAD" - WHILE YOUR AT IT BOB - TELL US ABOUT KAY LICAUSI !!!!! Key role for Menendez on Kerry 'truth squad' Dems working to counter GOP's convention claims Friday, September 03, 2004 By Ken Thorbourne Journal staff writer Several hours before President George W. Bush took to the Madison Square Garden stage last night to accept his party's nomination, U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez, D-Hoboken, was busy righting what he perceived to be Republican wrongs emerging from the previous three nights of the national convention. "(California Gov. Arnold) Schwarzenegger says don't be economic girlie men," Menendez yelled over a cell phone, en route to a press conference with national Spanish-language media. "He's telling that to the 1.8 million people who have lost jobs. He's telling the 2.5 million people who lost manufacturing jobs not to be girlie men." As a key member of the "Convention Response Team" for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, Menendez, the third highest ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives, has been a whirlwind of activity. On Wednesday, Menendez appeared on CNN, MSNBC and the Spanish-language Univison network, and spoke at the Democratic National Committee's morning press conference. Yesterday, the five-term congressman and former Union City mayor was the featured speaker at a press conference for Spanish-language media. Clearly relishing his role as a "truth squad" avenger, Menendez called the Republican convention a "Broadway play, a fiction." "Policies have been hidden in a facade of a kinder, gentler, more-opportunities convention," said Menendez, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus. "Take (Georgia Sen.) Zell Miller, who fails to say John Kerry voted exactly as he (Miller) did for the last $355 billion defense authorization bill, and fails to mention that Dick Cheney (as secretary of Defense for the first President Bush) advocated a whole slew of cuts to the defense budget." The response team represents a deliberate decision by the Kerry campaign not to "concede" this week to the Republicans, said DNC spokeswoman Erika Soto. Headquartered on Seventh Avenue near 26th Street in Manhattan - eight blocks from the convention - the response team holds daily press briefings at 10 a.m., a roundtable for regional reporters at 11:15 a.m., and a Spanish-language briefing in the afternoon, she said. Besides arranging high-visibility events, the team coordinates the daily activities of Kerry's media surrogates, like Menendez. "Given his role in Congress, Menendez is an effective speaker," Soto said. "We also want to get the message out that we are truly the party of diversity and not just window dressing." Noting the presidential contest is a statistical dead heat in the so-called battleground states, Menendez said he has no intention of slowing down. Retelling the story of a wounded Kerry jumping off his swift boat in Vietnam to save the life of a fellow soldier, Menendez observed, "That is someone who really will leave no one behind." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gary's Rag Doll posted Message 5438 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 10:52:41 Subject: Key role for Menendez on Kerry 'truth squad' This is a joke, right? ***************** End Of Article ****************** 1st Amendment posted Message 5439 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 11:08:13 Subject: CENSORSHIP! This site is getting very lame as it's censoring and deleting a lot of the posts now. What is the excuse today? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mrs. D posted Message 5440 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 11:22:52 Subject: L. Harvey Smith and Roger Jones - Do NOT KEEP THEM IN OFFICE I would not vote for L. Harvey Smith if he were the only candidate running for office. I used to work in the office of the current chief of staff (who is very frugal) and Uncle Harvey came in one day and called me baby! I don't know how the secretary stands it! I was so insulted that I eventually quit. Roger Jones walked around like he was king of the jungle and the poor secretary thought he was a God! Laughable! Everyone who came in and out of the office of the COS cursed like a sailor with no respect for anyone within hearing range. DO NOT VOTE FOR UNCLE HARVEY! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5441 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 11:40:31 Subject: Re: CENSORSHIP! Exactly what are you talking about? This business day, I didn't delete any posts. Very early this morning I removed a number of very crude sexual comments. : This site is getting very lame as it's censoring and deleting a lot of the posts now. : What is the excuse today? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get a life a sense of humor posted Message 5442 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 11:57:39 Subject: IrishPrincess/HeightsGirl : because they know he is the only candidate who deserves to be the next mayor of Jersey City!!!!! you are an idiot!!! go jerry ! healy for myor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5443 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 16:50:51 Subject: Ask the people running for mayor,What do they think of Menendez & Kenny If they say they like these two Porky Pigs, Dont vote for them .Jersey City First and always. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So Says Paul Byrne posted Message 5444 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 17:15:28 Subject: Kenny Cooperating With Federal Investigators Convicted Briber Joe Barry Personal Attorney is Bernard Kenny - Barry's Applied Companies still Developing Hoboken - THE W HOTEL. YOU DO THE MATH !!!! If they say they like these two Porky Pigs, Dont vote for them .Jersey City First and always. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5445 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 03, 2004 at 21:21:22 Subject: Get a life Gaynor !!! You blather on and still get nuthin. Bury yourself in the sand down at Avon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5446 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 04:01:30 Subject: Menendez for Congress Donations to Democratic Candidates There seems to be a total of 21, $1000 donations: ALEXANDER, RODNEY HOUSE Democrat LA 1,000 BISHOP, TIMOTHY HOUSE Democrat NY 1,000 BOSWELL, LEONARD L. HOUSE Democrat IA 1,000 CHICO, GERY J SENATE Democrat IL 1,000 DAVIS, LINCOLN HOUSE Democrat TN 1,000 EDWARDS, CHET HOUSE Democrat TX 1,000 HILL, BARON P. HOUSE Democrat IN 1,000 HOEFFEL, JOSEPH M HOUSE Democrat PA 1,000 HOLDEN, TIM HOUSE Democrat PA 1,000 HOOLEY, DARLENE HOUSE Democrat OR 1,000 KANJORSKI, PAUL E HOUSE Democrat PA 1,000 LARSEN, RICHARD RAY HOUSE Democrat WA 1,000 LUCAS, KENNETH RAY HOUSE Democrat KY 1,000 MARSHALL, JIM HOUSE Democrat GA 1,000 MATHESON, JIM MR. HOUSE Democrat UT 1,000 MICHAUD, MICHAEL H HOUSE Democrat ME 1,000 MILLER, RALPH BRADLEY HOUSE Democrat NC 1,000 MOORE, DENNIS HOUSE Democrat KS 1,000 POMEROY, EARL RALPH HOUSE Democrat ND 1,000 SANDLIN, MAX HOUSE Democrat TX 1,000 STENHOLM, CHARLIE W. HOUSE Democrat TX 1,000 ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5447 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 04:04:18 Subject: Menendez for Congress Campaign Donors To browse the donor list, please see the Link below. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A light hearted look posted Message 5448 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 06:46:59 Subject: Re: Menendez for Congress Campaign Donors ::::Though I only have made it to page 55 so far, it seems to me there are an awful lot of "homemakers" who made healthy contributions. Watch out Kay. (snicker) : To browse the donor list, please see the Link below. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5449 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 07:14:09 Subject: Homemaker, student, and Retiree Donors Just taking a quick look at the various donor lists, the number of "homemakers," "students," and "retirees" is very striking. It's very inspiring to imagine all these folks -- from frugal management of their fixed incomes -- saving nickels and dimes so that they can make $1000 donations to Bob Menendez! : ::::Though I only have made it to page 55 so far, it seems to me there are an awful lot of "homemakers" who made healthy contributions. Watch out Kay. (snicker) : : To browse the donor list, please see the Link below. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5450 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 08:32:22 Subject: Jersey Journal: Young war vet aiming to win minds for GOP Young war vet aiming to win minds for GOP Jersey Journal Saturday, September 04, 2004 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer NEW YORK - For a 25-year-old kid from Hoboken just beginning his political education, Joshua Maarleveld found himself in unusually high demand at the Republican National Convention this week. Whether addressing a gathering of the Veterans for Bush and taking questions from people three times his age or meeting the 41st president, George H.W. Bush, on the deck of the Intrepid aircraft carrier, Maarleveld, a veteran of the Iraq war and a Marine reservist who served as a delegate to the convention this week, has had quite an introduction to politics. . . . To read the complete story, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5451 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 09:01:05 Subject: Menendez-Watch Out Glenn Cunningham is Watchung you And Xanadu You cant escape the Cunningham evil eye .Who is trained straight on you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Do posted Message 5452 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 11:29:05 Subject: Re: Homemaker, student, and Retiree Donors ::::It is kind of inspiring - "mommy" hiding the seed money in a jam jar, "little johnny" buying used books & skipping meals & "ma & pa " eating dog food & cutting their blood pressure medicine in half. Kinda brings a tear to your eye. : Just taking a quick look at the various donor lists, the number of "homemakers," "students," and "retirees" is very striking. It's very inspiring to imagine all these folks -- from frugal management of their fixed incomes -- saving nickels and dimes so that they can make $1000 donations to Bob Menendez! : : ::::Though I only have made it to page 55 so far, it seems to me there are an awful lot of "homemakers" who made healthy contributions. Watch out Kay. (snicker) : : : To browse the donor list, please see the Link below. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY FOR MAYOR posted Message 5453 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 11:40:36 Subject: Re: : :IDIOT!YOU OBVIOUSLY NEED TO GET YOUR OWN LIFE YOU ARE PATHETIC!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5454 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 12:03:55 Subject: I'm so ashamed of myself! I just naturally take a such warped view of things. For a moment I suspected the possilbility of wealthy individuals evading the campaign finance laws by using the names of other people to make donations. What a silly thought. I'm sure that nobody would ever do anything like that! : ::::It is kind of inspiring - "mommy" hiding the seed money in a jam jar, "little johnny" buying used books & skipping meals & "ma & pa " eating dog food & cutting their blood pressure medicine in half. Kinda brings a tear to your eye. : : Just taking a quick look at the various donor lists, the number of "homemakers," "students," and "retirees" is very striking. It's very inspiring to imagine all these folks -- from frugal management of their fixed incomes -- saving nickels and dimes so that they can make $1000 donations to Bob Menendez! : : : ::::Though I only have made it to page 55 so far, it seems to me there are an awful lot of "homemakers" who made healthy contributions. Watch out Kay. (snicker) : : : : To browse the donor list, please see the Link below. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mother Goose posted Message 5455 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 12:31:53 Subject: Re: good 4 the goose but not the Gander So how exactly does your guy Schundler raise funds Anthony? Or how did Cunningham? You're pretty selective in your rips. : For a moment I suspected the possilbility of wealthy individuals evading the campaign finance laws by using the names of other people to make donations. What a silly thought. I'm sure that nobody would ever do anything like that! : : ::::It is kind of inspiring - "mommy" hiding the seed money in a jam jar, "little johnny" buying used books & skipping meals & "ma & pa " eating dog food & cutting their blood pressure medicine in half. Kinda brings a tear to your eye. : : : Just taking a quick look at the various donor lists, the number of "homemakers," "students," and "retirees" is very striking. It's very inspiring to imagine all these folks -- from frugal management of their fixed incomes -- saving nickels and dimes so that they can make $1000 donations to Bob Menendez! : : : : ::::Though I only have made it to page 55 so far, it seems to me there are an awful lot of "homemakers" who made healthy contributions. Watch out Kay. (snicker) : : : : : To browse the donor list, please see the Link below. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5456 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 13:11:44 Subject: Funny thing is. . . Recently two people asked me why I post what I do. The simple answer is that's what people send me. Whatever I get, I check out. If there's something to it, I post it. To keep the story short, don't play like misty-serious. If you know something, the post it. If you don't know something, keep yer ignorance a secret by keeping yer yap shut! As a digression: I get a deluge from the Menendez Hate Club. The Congressman's staff provides not even belly button lint on his behalf I don't even see the old episodes of Report to the People on Ch. 51 anymore. Menendez's office wouldn't even tell me when he was scheduled to speak at the convention. A classic was when a few years back someone upstairs there on Bergen Ave told me to read the Jersey Journal if I wanted to know what was going on -- even ol' Peg Leg Pete hadda smile at that one! So, in order to provide a balanced picture of Congressman Menendez, I spend a fair amount of time researching and collecting positive items. And then Congressman Bob's glee club complains that they don't see enough happy trails tales here! : So how exactly does your guy Schundler raise funds Anthony? Or how did Cunningham? You're pretty selective in your rips. : : For a moment I suspected the possilbility of wealthy individuals evading the campaign finance laws by using the names of other people to make donations. What a silly thought. I'm sure that nobody would ever do anything like that! : : : ::::It is kind of inspiring - "mommy" hiding the seed money in a jam jar, "little johnny" buying used books & skipping meals & "ma & pa " eating dog food & cutting their blood pressure medicine in half. Kinda brings a tear to your eye. : : : : Just taking a quick look at the various donor lists, the number of "homemakers," "students," and "retirees" is very striking. It's very inspiring to imagine all these folks -- from frugal management of their fixed incomes -- saving nickels and dimes so that they can make $1000 donations to Bob Menendez! : : : : : ::::Though I only have made it to page 55 so far, it seems to me there are an awful lot of "homemakers" who made healthy contributions. Watch out Kay. (snicker) : : : : : : To browse the donor list, please see the Link below. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 5457 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 14:47:18 Subject: Re: I'm so ashamed of myself! :::Why sir! You should be ashamed! Are you intimating that such dishonesty goes on? For shame, for shame. Why, I even bet you think politics in our beloved Jersey City are dirty. ;) : I just naturally take a such warped view of things. : For a moment I suspected the possilbility of wealthy individuals evading the campaign finance laws by using the names of other people to make donations. What a silly thought. I'm sure that nobody would ever do anything like that! : : ::::It is kind of inspiring - "mommy" hiding the seed money in a jam jar, "little johnny" buying used books & skipping meals & "ma & pa " eating dog food & cutting their blood pressure medicine in half. Kinda brings a tear to your eye. : : : Just taking a quick look at the various donor lists, the number of "homemakers," "students," and "retirees" is very striking. It's very inspiring to imagine all these folks -- from frugal management of their fixed incomes -- saving nickels and dimes so that they can make $1000 donations to Bob Menendez! : : : : ::::Though I only have made it to page 55 so far, it seems to me there are an awful lot of "homemakers" who made healthy contributions. Watch out Kay. (snicker) : : : : : To browse the donor list, please see the Link below. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5458 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 17:54:13 Subject: Waste of space. Anthony, I guess you really expect to accomplish something by posting all this crap. The truth is, Bob Menendez is going to be around for a long time. And nothing you and your pathetic little group of Republicans do is gonna change that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5459 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 17:57:19 Subject: Cunningham is dead as .. a doornail. He ain't puttin no evil eye on anybody. If he did, it would be on Gene Drayton, as the load pursues the lovely Sandra. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5460 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 18:03:36 Subject: Please write out your post. Please write out your post. But, do use a small piece of paper, as I wouldn't want it to get stuck in yer craw if sometime orother you gotta eat it. Sorta way off now, but it seems like I'm almost hearin a familiar beat. . . : Anthony, I guess you really expect to accomplish something by posting all this crap. The truth is, Bob Menendez is going to be around for a long time. And nothing you and your pathetic little group of Republicans do is gonna change that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5461 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 19:19:26 Subject: What does Menendez Stand For?He likes McGreevey&Kerry The USA will put Porky Pig to bed very soon.Only the brain Dead in HC will vote for this Xanadu hit man. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5462 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 04, 2004 at 20:51:04 Subject: Brain Dead That describes you very nicely Gaynor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jean K posted Message 5463 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2004 at 06:34:07 Subject: Signs of progression... If you are concerned about Iraq, just check out www.x-detective.com , a global dating-site for people seeking sexual encounters, and click "Iraq". Sure enough, there are already dozens of women there who have "accepted" the western, liberal, "corrupted" way... So funny you can cry... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5464 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2004 at 08:09:38 Subject: Thank God thr rest of America will save us from Kerry &Menendez Types Menendez wants Defense Money spend on the Xanadu project.He believes fighting Iraq was a waste of money.I have one word for him, America. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5465 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2004 at 11:44:42 Subject: At the Boston Convention, were the rest of the Dems ashamed to be seen with the HCDO? Why haven't we seen any pictures from the Boston Convention of Carter, Mondale, Kennedy or any of the other nationally-known Democrats with HCDO people? It seems that the only picture that appeared locally was of Congressman Menendez (taken during his speech). . . . AND I posted that here! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Without a Doubt posted Message 5466 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2004 at 12:07:35 Subject: Re: At the Boston Convention, were the rest of the Dems ashamed to be seen with the HCDO? Why no pix with the big-wig dems? Simple...the HCDO is an embarrassment to the rest of the national party. Totally disorganized, fighting a factional county political war, and unable to mount a strategically coherent campaign on behalf of our state and national candidates. The HCDO has been totally marginalized through their own inability to unify themselves under one banner. The HCDO's days of being relevant are over. That was the past. The future will see the HCDO relegated to the back of the political bus. The future sees the HCDO irrelevant in State and National political races because it cannot be counted upon to coral the number of votes and raise the kind of dollars it once could without question. Today the HCDO is out of touch, out of step, and no longer has a seat at the power table. For all intents and purposes the HCDO is irrelevant to everyone except those who continue to use it as a vehicle for raising and pocketing money. : Why haven't we seen any pictures from the Boston Convention of Carter, Mondale, Kennedy or any of the other nationally-known Democrats with HCDO people? : It seems that the only picture that appeared locally was of Congressman Menendez (taken during his speech). . . . AND I posted that here! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5467 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2004 at 13:38:55 Subject: Menendez largesse: $21,000 in donations out of how many millions? : Why no pix with the big-wig dems? Simple...the HCDO is an embarrassment to the rest of the national party. Totally disorganized, fighting a factional county political war, and unable to mount a strategically coherent campaign on behalf of our state and national candidates. The HCDO has been totally marginalized through their own inability to unify themselves under one banner. : The HCDO's days of being relevant are over. That was the past. The future will see the HCDO relegated to the back of the political bus. The future sees the HCDO irrelevant in State and National political races because it cannot be counted upon to coral the number of votes and raise the kind of dollars it once could without question. : Today the HCDO is out of touch, out of step, and no longer has a seat at the power table. For all intents and purposes the HCDO is irrelevant to everyone except those who continue to use it as a vehicle for raising and pocketing money. : : Why haven't we seen any pictures from the Boston Convention of Carter, Mondale, Kennedy or any of the other nationally-known Democrats with HCDO people? : : It seems that the only picture that appeared locally was of Congressman Menendez (taken during his speech). . . . AND I posted that here! They still seem to be doing a great job at raising money. . . vide the millions squirreled away by Congressman Bob. And out of that treaasure chest his organization funded 21 Democrats around the country with $1,000 to each. ***************** End Of Article ****************** poisen pen posted Message 5468 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 05, 2004 at 21:56:46 Subject: Greedy Gaughan Who will finally send this greedy monster to retirement.... Same goes for DeGise ... When will golden rule hurt his family..... and who are his biggest enemies... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5469 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2004 at 08:28:00 Subject: Menendez going to pull a Rudy Garcia on DeGise &Gaughan Watch your back you two.Xanadu Menendez wants complete control of Jersey City.Dont get in his way.Odea working overtime on this one for Lou Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5470 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2004 at 09:22:49 Subject: Broken fans in the corpse prep room allowing brain atrophy by formaldehyde fumes? : Watch your back you two.Xanadu Menendez wants complete control of Jersey City.Dont get in his way.Odea working overtime on this one for Lou Manzo. Going by the foaming at the mouth incoherent ranting and ravings of the Ward C footsoldiers, I have to wonder if Gaughan and Degise are under the influence of formaldehyde fumes. IT's obvious to one and all that the pair of refugees from a horror film are out and about only due to the mad political scientist, Bob Menendez. Just like in the Chiller Theater movies, the monsters are turning on their creator. And think, Halloween is only a couple of days before the election! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BIG FREAKIN DEAL $21K....chump change posted Message 5471 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2004 at 16:23:49 Subject: Re: Menendez for Congress Donations to Democratic Candidates Menendez pockets 100,000 for every 1,000 check he writes. The guy is the scam artist of the century. He is out for two things and nothing more....power and money. Funding 21 dems with 1,000 each is a joke. That's paperclip money....and anyone who has ever worked a campaign knows that. Menendez is useless and greedy and its time for him to go. : There seems to be a total of 21, $1000 donations: : ALEXANDER, RODNEY HOUSE Democrat LA 1,000 : BISHOP, TIMOTHY HOUSE Democrat NY 1,000 : BOSWELL, LEONARD L. HOUSE Democrat IA 1,000 : CHICO, GERY J SENATE Democrat IL 1,000 : DAVIS, LINCOLN HOUSE Democrat TN 1,000 : EDWARDS, CHET HOUSE Democrat TX 1,000 : HILL, BARON P. HOUSE Democrat IN 1,000 : HOEFFEL, JOSEPH M HOUSE Democrat PA 1,000 : HOLDEN, TIM HOUSE Democrat PA 1,000 : HOOLEY, DARLENE HOUSE Democrat OR 1,000 : KANJORSKI, PAUL E HOUSE Democrat PA 1,000 : LARSEN, RICHARD RAY HOUSE Democrat WA 1,000 : LUCAS, KENNETH RAY HOUSE Democrat KY 1,000 : MARSHALL, JIM HOUSE Democrat GA 1,000 : MATHESON, JIM MR. HOUSE Democrat UT 1,000 : MICHAUD, MICHAEL H HOUSE Democrat ME 1,000 : MILLER, RALPH BRADLEY HOUSE Democrat NC 1,000 : MOORE, DENNIS HOUSE Democrat KS 1,000 : POMEROY, EARL RALPH HOUSE Democrat ND 1,000 : SANDLIN, MAX HOUSE Democrat TX 1,000 : STENHOLM, CHARLIE W. HOUSE Democrat TX 1,000 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Skywatcher posted Message 5472 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2004 at 16:26:15 Subject: Tom Gaynor is SATAN... Tom Gaynor finally picked a screen name that suits his perfectly. SATAN on this board IS Tom Gaynor. Congratulations Tom.... finally some relevant creativity. ***************** End Of Article ****************** PaintMan posted Message 5473 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2004 at 18:00:18 Subject: All Healy people at the horse races-while Manzo is out Shaking Hands Healy spends all day in a bar. You tell me who is going to win?Get used to saying Mayor Louis Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** go healy posted Message 5474 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2004 at 20:12:41 Subject: Re: All Healy people at the horse races-while Manzo is out Shaking Hands Give me a break! enough with the Jerry in the bars stuff its old and its tiring!!manzo is a loser and will not win this election. Healy for mayor! Go jerry! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5475 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2004 at 20:33:54 Subject: Please .. no need to insult me by calling me Tom Gaynor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Heights Hoodlum posted Message 5476 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2004 at 21:36:56 Subject: Manzo Campaign Problem The Manzo Campaign has reported some problems while on the campaign trail. The campaign is having difficulty keeping reporter microphones out of the mouth of mayoral candidate Lou Manzo. Also Candidate Manzo keeps petting the reporters microphones and calling them by affectionate names. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sigmond posted Message 5477 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 06, 2004 at 21:41:25 Subject: Re: Manzo Campaign Problem What would Dr Freud say? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Freud posted Message 5478 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 08:18:14 Subject: Re: All Healy people at the horse races-while Manzo is out Shaking Hands YEAH....Healy in Bars drinking is really offensive. But Manzo giving blowjobs to microphones...well that's just politics as usual. Get real. : Give me a break! enough with the Jerry in the bars stuff its old and its tiring!!manzo is a loser and will not win this election. Healy for mayor! : Go jerry! ***************** End Of Article ****************** go away healy posted Message 5479 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 08:53:36 Subject: Re: All Healy people at the horse races-while Manzo is out Shaking Hands : Give me a break! enough with the Manzo is a loser stuff its old and its tiring!!healy is a loser and will not win this election. Manzo for mayor! : Go Lou! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sweet Pee posted Message 5480 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 09:00:40 Subject: Why is Doria Supporting Harvey Smith for Mayor? Is it because he needs all the black votes he can muster?It wont work, Big Joe.Even Menendez wants to bring you down.Ask Senator Kenny to confirm. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GO HEALY! posted Message 5481 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 09:11:41 Subject: Re: All Healy people at the horse races-while Manzo is out Shaking Hands : : WE WILL SEE WHO THE LOSER IS IN NOVEMBER!! MANZO SHOULD GIVE IT UP AGAIN OES HE NOT GET IT!! HE WILL NEVER WIN NO ONE WANTS A CROOK TO BE OUR MAYOR AND ESPECIALLY HE HAS MCCANN WITH HIM!! LOL!!! A CONVICT. WE DO NOT NEED THEM RUNNING OUR CITY!! GI JERRY HEALY!! ALL THE WAY!!!! HEALY FOR MAYOR! ***************** End Of Article ****************** worried posted Message 5482 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 09:34:13 Subject: Re: All Healy people at the horse races-while Manzo is out Shaking Hands : : : WE WILL SEE WHO THE LOSER IS IN NOVEMBER!! MANZO SHOULD GIVE IT UP AGAIN OES HE NOT GET IT!! HE WILL NEVER WIN NO ONE WANTS A CROOK TO BE OUR MAYOR AND ESPECIALLY HE HAS MCCANN WITH HIM!! LOL!!! A CONVICT. WE DO NOT NEED THEM RUNNING OUR CITY!! GI JERRY HEALY!! ALL THE WAY!!!! HEALY FOR MAYOR! ::::Healy appears to be the best horse in the race but if he doesn't have the courage or sense to tell gaughan to keep dixon away from healy's campaign, i have to wonder if he can run the city. dixon costs healy more votes every day and brings nothing but disgrace to the table. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's why not! posted Message 5483 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 09:59:38 Subject: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #7 of 100 Lou Manzo is a private businessman and a state assemblyman. Lou Manzo will be at best a part time mayor. Running Jersey City isn't a hobby. Lou Manzo sees it like playing with his toy model trains. Jersey City can't afford someone who is not serious in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr Snitch posted Message 5484 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 10:38:46 Subject: Interesting numbers just came out. Manzo-34%--Flood-22%--Healy-21%-Smith--12%-Buonocore--09%-Carroll--02%.Hard campaigning paying off for Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Go Away Healy posted Message 5485 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 10:49:57 Subject: Re: All Healy people at the horse races-while Manzo is out Shaking Hands ::::: And Jerry has Gaughan and Dickson. So your point is IrishPrincess? : : : WE WILL SEE WHO THE LOSER IS IN NOVEMBER!! MANZO SHOULD GIVE IT UP AGAIN OES HE NOT GET IT!! HE WILL NEVER WIN NO ONE WANTS A CROOK TO BE OUR MAYOR AND ESPECIALLY HE HAS MCCANN WITH HIM!! LOL!!! A CONVICT. WE DO NOT NEED THEM RUNNING OUR CITY!! GI JERRY HEALY!! ALL THE WAY!!!! HEALY FOR MAYOR! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarduci posted Message 5486 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 10:51:45 Subject: Reminds me .. of what Tina Turner used to do with a microphone. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil FLood,Jr posted Message 5487 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 10:54:59 Subject: Re: Phil Flood Yes definitely. If you are genuinely concerned. My big brother passed in 95 of AIDS. So that is one of her priorities. : Phil, : I read in the Jersey Journal, your brother died of AIDS? : I'm sorry to hear that, will your mother now announced for Mayor reach out to the Aids community? : All the Best : Paul ***************** End Of Article ****************** PF2 posted Message 5488 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 10:56:31 Subject: Re: Two Words. I didn't say none of this. : : Two words for you Phil. : : Phoenix House !!! : : Bwahahahahahahaha !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 5489 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 11:03:40 Subject: Hypocrisy. I don't understand why this board has a rule against posting threads regarding the Presidential Election while the moderator posts links regarding Kerry alleged flip flops. If the moderator can bring up Kerry as a subject on the board, I believe people posting here should be able to respond regarding Kerry, Bush and the national election ***************** End Of Article ****************** J. Dolan Is A Senile old man posted Message 5490 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 11:05:34 Subject: Willie is 100% Woman!!!! How dare you disrespect Mrs Flood by calling her a man. You are an idiot!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know posted Message 5491 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 11:17:20 Subject: Coverup People act like the mafia dosen't have hit men. They have numerous ways to murder someone. Without shooting or stabbing that is. Cyanide, arsenic, formaldihyde. All these things can kill and would be undetectable. So don't act like it absolutely couldn't happen that way. There is motive and means. Bastards. We know what was done. And stop blaming Bobby And Joe. And start blaming the real culprits. We know who you are!!!!!! And you will be caught. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5492 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 11:25:46 Subject: Here's a very important lesson concerning Freedom of the Press . . . Here's a very important lesson concerning Freedom of the Press . . . IT ONLY APPLIES TO THE OWNERS OF THE PRINTING PRESSES! Honestly though, the nudge to the ribs over the staff reorg isn't a Post at the Board. It's a banner that appears at most of the Pages at the entire Site. I thought that it was good for a chuckle. For purposes of attribution, it Links to my own Page; there's nothing on the Presidential race there. I delete EVERY post on the national race that doesn't relate directly to Hudson County. One visitor has been edging along the line with posts comparing Congressman Menendez to Senator John Kerry. There are a number of ways that Hudson County supporters of Presidential Candidates can use the Board. For example, you can post notices of local meetups, locations of campaign offices, the time and place of local fundraisers, appearances, what local political figures have to say about a candidates, pictures of local figures with a candidate. If anybody needs help doing this, e-mail me! : I don't understand why this board has a rule against posting threads regarding the Presidential Election while the moderator posts links regarding Kerry alleged flip flops. : If the moderator can bring up Kerry as a subject on the board, I believe people posting here should be able to respond regarding Kerry, Bush and the national election ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter posted Message 5493 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 11:27:18 Subject: Willie!!!!!! Willie!!!!!!!!! Willie!!!!!!!!!! She's going to win!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY FOR MAYOR posted Message 5494 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 12:24:04 Subject: Re: Interesting numbers just came out. :YEAH. WHOS POLL IS THAT? HEALY FOR MAYOR!!! THAT POLL CANT BE ACCURATE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom F posted Message 5495 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 13:07:43 Subject: # 's are wrong Manzo leads the pack by 23% and Smith is ahead of Healy : Manzo-34%--Flood-22%--Healy-21%-Smith--12%-Buonocore--09%-Carroll--02%.Hard campaigning paying off for Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not For MANZO posted Message 5496 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 13:14:07 Subject: Stop being GREEDY I think that Manzo should remember WHO got him elected in the first place. He should also remember that the only reason he got there is because he rode Glenn's coattails. He needs to drop out be an assemblyman and support those who supported him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter posted Message 5497 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 13:16:01 Subject: VOTE WILLIE FLOOD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nuff said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5498 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 13:19:51 Subject: Re: Willie is 100% EVIL Every bone in his body is evil. A vote for Flood is like a vote for Farrakhan or Sharpton. : How dare you disrespect Mrs Flood by calling her a man. You are an idiot!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5499 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 13:25:03 Subject: Re: VOTE WILLIE FLOOD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is a real nice guy but not mayoral material. HEALY FOR MAYOR! HEALY FOR MAYOR! : Nuff said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Settle down IrishPrincess posted Message 5500 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 13:41:01 Subject: Re: Interesting numbers just came out. Or you will wind up in the bed next to Clinton. : :YEAH. WHOS POLL IS THAT? HEALY FOR MAYOR!!! THAT POLL CANT BE ACCURATE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's a dope for you posted Message 5501 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 13:47:07 Subject: Re: VOTE WILLIE FLOOD FOR MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :::Jerry, you are a real nice guy but you have dopes & idiots around you. You got Jim DICKson, who is a foul-mouthed sub-human and this J Dolan who does not know a male from a female. You would do better in the poles if you dropped the likes of these people. : He is a real nice guy but not mayoral material. HEALY FOR MAYOR! : HEALY FOR MAYOR! : : Nuff said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BB KING posted Message 5502 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 15:30:21 Subject: Healy for REHAB ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5503 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 15:47:26 Subject: Airhead Nuff said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5504 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 15:49:15 Subject: I say a prayer .. That she's never going to win!!!!! Bwahahahahahaha !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5505 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 15:51:11 Subject: Take it from me .. Willie is too stupid to be evil. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Things are pretty bad posted Message 5506 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 15:56:42 Subject: When you say a prayer : That she's never going to win!!!!! : Bwahahahahahaha !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** RBGTJ posted Message 5507 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 16:44:24 Subject: Bunocore DIKEY DIKE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5508 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 17:44:56 Subject: Xanadu an economic engine for the entire area? NJN news just said that the Light Rail will go to Xanadu, and economic engine for the entire area. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Carl posted Message 5509 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 18:39:50 Subject: Re: stop being stupid Who supported him? Willie Flood? She runs for something every election and if she is such a strong canidate how come Glenn did not let her run for the 31st district assembly seat. The reason being Glenn needed a real canidate that was credible and Glenn needed a white canidate so he could get white votes. Glenn needed Lou as much as Lou needed Glenn. Remember if Lou had not backed Glenn Degise would have been the mayor. And that means there would not have been an African American mayor in Jersey City History. One other thing, if Cunningham was so strong how come Bernie Hartnett lost his bid for HC Exec. If Lou Manzo was the canidate he would have won. Lou Manzo is the best man for the job. Willie Flood and the rest of the canidates should stop wasting their time and money and drop out of the race. : I think that Manzo should remember WHO got him elected in the first place. He should also remember that the only reason he got there is because he rode Glenn's coattails. He needs to drop out be an assemblyman and support those who supported him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 93 more chances to entertain us posted Message 5510 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 21:58:46 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #7 of 100 ::::Jerry Healy is a practicing lawyer and Councilman at Large. Harvey Smith is Council President and High School Councellor. Jimmy Carroll is a practicing lawyer and policeman. Ron Buonocore is a bully and doesn't live here. Willie Flood is a career politician. You are an idiot. : Lou Manzo is a private businessman and a state assemblyman. : Lou Manzo will be at best a part time mayor. Running Jersey City isn't a hobby. Lou Manzo sees it like playing with his toy model trains. : Jersey City can't afford someone who is not serious in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO Pollster posted Message 5511 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 22:31:31 Subject: Re: Interesting numbers just came out. Yeah, I got your poll... right here! The only poll that matters is the one Manzo likes to sit on and call Danny! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5512 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 22:34:00 Subject: Manzo for Mayor Manzo only hopes for more men around him... Any truth that YMCA will be Manzo campaign song? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Censorship posted Message 5513 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 22:40:42 Subject: Censorship Uberhippy speaks from both ends, he is not an attorney, nor plays one on TV. He has no clue what he is talking about, he's just a lonely freak who has no life and sits around creating this horrible looking websites and tries to get sponsors to pay for it. He a pawn to the Hudson GOP, who have only enjoyed any life since Bret. Let him have his fun and posts photos of the Hispanic Cheshire Cat on his site. We get chuckles from most of the posts, even if we have to put up with the lame Uberhippy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5514 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 07, 2004 at 23:43:36 Subject: Lame? Lame? Might ya' be referin' to yer LAME DUCK quacker of a GOVERNOR!!! Or maybe ya' might mean BERNARD KENNY who's up the proverbial creek without a means a locomotion now that's it's gonna be GOVERNOR AND STATE SENATOR CODEY!!! And then there's ol' CONGRESSMAN BOB. . . Promised Jon Corzine that deliverin' Trenton was gonna be a piece a' cake. MENENDEZ tries to do the Senator's dirty work an' make good on the deal by sneakin' up behin' Gov. James E. only to find out what every little kid in the tenements of Hudson County already knows by heart as they take their first few hesitant steps: don't corner a rat in the garbage can otherwise yer jugular might go from pristine to corroded in like nothin' flat! This little escapade has statewide at least shown that this particular HCDO idol has feet of clay. I been like holdin' the slings and arrows in abeyance 'cause what I don't want to be a tool for is the from sea to shinin' sea Democrats who I can hear the heavy breathin' of as they like hide in the weeds just offa the side of the road. This zero-sum game gang is just grinnin' in the hopes of pryin' Menendez's sinewy little digits offa Washington, D.C.!!!! Edgin' the quilt over to their side a' the bed in the upcoming frosty Winter is the point here! And I for one's wanna see the Light Rail finish up in Fort Lee in this life time . . . : Uberhippy speaks from both ends, he is not an attorney, nor plays one on TV. He has no clue what he is talking about, he's just a lonely freak who has no life and sits around creating this horrible looking websites and tries to get sponsors to pay for it. : He a pawn to the Hudson GOP, who have only enjoyed any life since Bret. : Let him have his fun and posts photos of the Hispanic Cheshire Cat on his site. We get chuckles from most of the posts, even if we have to put up with the lame Uberhippy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Censorship posted Message 5515 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 04:29:15 Subject: Re: Lame? Oh, has Uberhippy taken offense? Note how the direction has suddenly changed from how lame the site is to attacks on political figures and Uberhippy's quest for truth and justice. Your Handle says it all, you move into Jersey City thinking you can change the world. You cry how bad these politicians are and then on the other side you exercise the same type of authority within your own thiefdom on this site. Stop being selective over the posts you want to censor and stop with the HCRP photos, no one care and frankly they are not the saviors either. They are all the same. This site has turned into th Arrango show in the last two weeks and well this is not going to be the place to post about Arrango. Point is they are all the same. Clean up the site, make it more appealing visually, stop with the selective censorship and you will have a great site. ***************** End Of Article ****************** resort to personal attacks posted Message 5516 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 05:49:28 Subject: When you have nothing :::With a sad little person like you and Gaughans son-in-law on the team, Jerry is sure to lose. : : :IDIOT!YOU OBVIOUSLY NEED TO GET YOUR OWN LIFE YOU ARE PATHETIC!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5517 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 07:38:13 Subject: Schundler & Gaynor secret meeting Who else was there?The shadow knows.Good & honest state Government is right around the corner ,dear Taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 5518 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 08:09:04 Subject: It wasnt me, but i wish is was-Schundler Meeting Schunlder will make a super Governor ,when he is elected and he will be elected Governor ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sweet Pea and me posted Message 5519 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 08:25:52 Subject: Xanadu &Menendez-When will the true story be told? Everybody in the know, knows.So why is it taking Chris Christie so long to reel in Porky Pig Menendez. You know there is a lot of federal Money involved in this sweet heart deal for girlfriend Kay.What a super way to launder campaign donations and put the money into real estate and mutual funds. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5520 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 08:36:28 Subject: Boy meets girl, Boy gets girl, . . . Is it true that the story has arrived at the boy loses girl (or, perhaps more precisely, girl loses boy) section of the Menendez-LiCausi soap opera? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5521 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 08:45:28 Subject: Secret deal no longer a secret Menendez dealing with Bill Odea to cover his base with Lou Manzo. He now knows Manzo is the winner and is sending money in through the back door.This tactic has always worked for Menendez And Kenny. Why stop now.The word is out to dry the money up on Smith & Healy.DeGise and Gaughan will be the last to find out,how the real game of Hudson County politics is played.Its Manzo in a walk.If Manzo picks weak directors, like James King ,throw him out in Six Months.Jersey City is now at the crossroads. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5522 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 09:43:38 Subject: Political corruption When will we see the end of political corruption in Jersey City.The answer is ,when we get rid of the Hudson County political Machine.This machine makes a few very rich at the expense of honest government.The insiders say as long as i get mine,i see no problem.Menendez needs to get his walking papers but soon.Otherwise its the dead march for Jersey City and its taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5523 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 09:59:24 Subject: with a little energy and imagination The images of the Hudson County GOP reflected activity at the recent convention in New York City. I'd already scheduled yesterday as the end of the photo run. Again, ALL are welcome to post images at the Board -- as long as the pictures directly relate to Hudson County Politics. If you need help doing so, then e-mail me. As stated before, with a little energy and imagination, the Board can be used for a wide range of posts concerning national politics. You can post at the Board to schedule meet-ups, announce the opening of local offices, local events, local fundraisers, and local appearances. You can post comments from local political figures on the national race. You can post pictures of local people with state and national candidates. Opinion, blather, and parroting of talking points on the national campaign is not allowed. All crude and/or sexually graphic posts get the ax. Think what you see is pretty bad? You oughta see what gets erased! Sorta funny the line about my being arrivee. I've lived here virtually all of my life. My family has been in Jersey City for many generations -- from the time of the Indians if a family history is factual. In terms of percentages, the Hudson County GOP is insignificant. In terms of individuals, there are more Republicans in Hudson County than there are in some solidly Republican Counties. Though GOP candidates have little hope here. I want the many individual Hudson County Republicans to realize that they are not alone and that the Hudson GOP is not unknown to the Party throughout the rest of the Country. A basic function of any Party is to provide focus -- a communal hearth. A Party should be a mechanism for the individual to connect with the rest of the community, with ideas, and with communities all over the Country. I DO hope to shame the local Democrats into getting off their collective duffs and working to creat a vehicle to interact with the people. My perception is that not only are Hudson Dems not doing that, but, they are actively trying not to do that! Alas, my priority is content. Beautification and graphic razzle dazzle will have to wait. GETNJ.com averages over 4,000 visitors a day. A couple of weeks ago, during the James E. hubbub, the Site served over 7,000 people per day. : Oh, has Uberhippy taken offense? : Note how the direction has suddenly changed from how lame the site is to attacks on political figures and Uberhippy's quest for truth and justice. : Your Handle says it all, you move into Jersey City thinking you can change the world. : You cry how bad these politicians are and then on the other side you exercise the same type of authority within your own thiefdom on this site. : Stop being selective over the posts you want to censor and stop with the HCRP photos, no one care and frankly they are not the saviors either. They are all the same. This site has turned into th Arrango show in the last two weeks and well this is not going to be the place to post about Arrango. : Point is they are all the same. : Clean up the site, make it more appealing visually, stop with the selective censorship and you will have a great site. ***************** End Of Article ****************** White Widower posted Message 5524 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 10:00:42 Subject: Re: Schundler & Gaynor secret meeting : Who else was there besides Gaynor? No one. Even Bret was absent. He has a life. The shadow knows. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom NoBrainer posted Message 5525 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 10:02:28 Subject: Re: It wasnt me, but i wish is was-Schundler Meeting So would SCHUNDLER you drooling fool. He is creating a new department just for you. The Office of the A$$. : Schunlder will make a super Governor ,when he is elected and he will be elected Governor ***************** End Of Article ****************** White Widower posted Message 5526 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 10:05:23 Subject: Re: Secret deal no longer a secret :::It was a secret until you opened your big drooling mouth loser. That is why no one wants you around. Keep building thos sandcastles and dreaming. : Menendez dealing with Bill Odea to cover his base with Lou Manzo. He now knows Manzo is the winner and is sending money in through the back door.This tactic has always worked for Menendez And Kenny. Why stop now.The word is out to dry the money up on Smith & Healy.DeGise and Gaughan will be the last to find out,how the real game of Hudson County politics is played.Its Manzo in a walk.If Manzo picks weak directors, like James King ,throw him out in Six Months.Jersey City is now at the crossroads. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's why not! posted Message 5527 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 10:06:54 Subject: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #8 of 100 Lou Manzo is not a responsible drinker. Jersey City can't afford a boozer in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** White Widower posted Message 5528 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 10:07:44 Subject: Re: Political corruption : When will i see the end of political corruption in Jersey City that im not included in.The answer is ,when i get back into the Hudson County political Machine.This machine makes a few very rich at the expense of honest government. i say as long as i get mine,i see no problem. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 5529 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 10:50:18 Subject: Old News Menendez and Licausi have been splitsville for a while. Only fools like Gaynor still drone on about it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5530 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 10:52:00 Subject: The Nose Knows Gaynor, you smell. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5531 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 10:53:53 Subject: Sorry. I've already made my deal with Corzine. Bret will have a long career speaking to Young Republican Clubs. Bwahahahahahaha !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5532 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 10:56:30 Subject: Speaks volumes. If Schundler is wasting time on a fool like Gaynor, you know his political career is going nowhere. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5533 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 10:58:51 Subject: You got it Bubala I'll sell my pitchfork to keep Willie out !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** A relative of Bret's, Rudolf Schundler, starred in the 1973 film hit, The Exorcist. posted Message 5534 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 11:08:53 Subject: Hudson County Fact: Let me guess, he was the pea soup that came out of Linda Blair's mouth? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5535 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 11:20:36 Subject: Gaynor is getting to the inside boys He knows where the bodies are buried.Time for all this political corruption to stop.Lets have Jersey City government run like most cities are run.Clean ,no crime and best of all .No political Corruption wasting our tax payers money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** lllll posted Message 5536 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 12:43:05 Subject: Re: Interesting numbers just came out. : yeah ok : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City First posted Message 5537 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 13:05:45 Subject: Vandalism every winter at Garfield Av cemetery It's just aweful every year what goes on in the Garfield avenue cemetery late at night during the winter months. Because of that we are making up a list of police officers seen goign in and out of Healy's office. They will be assigned to a special foot patrol to combat vandalism in the cemetery during the holiday season. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Letters to the Editor posted Message 5538 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 13:20:57 Subject: Smith moving us backwards Smith moving us backwards Wednesday, September 08, 2004 Letters to the Editor Mayor lets stop moving backwards. New Jersey has been the political joke of the country. We are notorious for corrupt politicians who care more for self-promotion than the communities they are mandated to serve. And within New Jersey, it is no secret that Hudson County is largely considered to be the "belly of the beast." I always felt that the previous two mayors of Jersey City, Bret Schundler, and my friend Glenn Cunningham, tried to change the negative stigma. They hired the best individuals to perform each public service job and kept political terrorism and patronage to a bare minimum. I am saddened that under the current acting mayor I feel we are regressing backwards as opposed to progressing forwards. One needs look no further than the massive promotions within the Police Department and Fire Department for those who support Harvey Smith, or the health inspectors who were sent to a restaurant because the owner supported another mayoral candidate, or the promotions within City Hall for those individuals who know and control the larger voting blocks in Jersey City. Mayor Smith, I need not remind you that you are acting mayor as opposed to elected mayor. There is a big difference. You didn't win an election but are rather a "place keeper" in City Hall until the November election. Please stop abusing the mayoral position and stop moving us back to the days of political abuse and corruption. STEVEN M. FULOP Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** yvette and yvonne posted Message 5539 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 13:55:42 Subject: Cleaning Service We are the best cleaning service you'll ever try. we don't rush through you home or business. The same people all the time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yvette and Yvonne posted Message 5540 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 14:11:55 Subject: Cleaning Service Not only are we the best cleaning service you'll ever try. We R a rainbow coalition. Call 201-395-9887 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cid posted Message 5541 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 14:17:21 Subject: Lou Manzo If you don't know the facts about this man then keep the comments to yourself.As human beings we all have something to say about someone else.Look in the mirror if you have Nothing to hide then put your two cents in.Manzo wants to help the Gay community not hinder it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos (WHY) posted Message 5542 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 14:24:51 Subject: Fix the Neighborhood The Gays fix the homes we spend more money than most. They have jobs with good incomes and then don't destory whats around them.Homophobia always gets in the way of progress. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jack posted Message 5543 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 14:27:56 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo : If you don't know the facts about this man then keep the comments to yourself.As human beings we all have something to say about someone else.Look in the mirror if you have Nothing to hide then put your two cents in.Manzo wants to help the Gay community not hinder it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5544 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 16:14:51 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo All homos should get out of Jersey City. Lets start with Louie and Dan. Homos can't help themselves its an illness there born with. Just keep these people away from our kids. Jerry will clean up the city . And what ever you do don't vote for Willie Flood...He doesn't know how to run a city. HEALY FOR MAYOR! : : If you don't know the facts about this man then keep the comments to yourself.As human beings we all have something to say about someone else.Look in the mirror if you have Nothing to hide then put your two cents in.Manzo wants to help the Gay community not hinder it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Jr posted Message 5545 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 16:22:00 Subject: Flood ahead in new poll Willie Flood 72% Ron Buonocore 13% Harvey Smith 10% Jim Carroll 3% Lou Manzo 1% Jerry Healy 1% ***************** End Of Article ****************** BusyB posted Message 5546 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 16:29:29 Subject: Where was this poll taken? At the Real Deal BBQ? : Willie Flood 72% : Ron Buonocore 13% : Harvey Smith 10% : Jim Carroll 3% : Lou Manzo 1% : Jerry Healy 1% ***************** End Of Article ****************** What's Manzo ever done for the Gay community posted Message 5547 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 16:50:40 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo All I ask is one example of what Lou has done for the Gay community...just one example 'cause I am not aware of any. : If you don't know the facts about this man then keep the comments to yourself.As human beings we all have something to say about someone else.Look in the mirror if you have Nothing to hide then put your two cents in.Manzo wants to help the Gay community not hinder it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Funny posted Message 5548 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 16:52:11 Subject: Re: Flood ahead in new poll There's no way that Willie can win a city-wide election...a margin like that is just wishful thinking on your part Phil. : Willie Flood 72% : Ron Buonocore 13% : Harvey Smith 10% : Jim Carroll 3% : Lou Manzo 1% : Jerry Healy 1% ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5549 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 16:59:58 Subject: Re: taken in Phil 's Land of Make Believe Willie must be really working hard. You know, he really is such a nice guy. : At the Real Deal BBQ? : : Willie Flood 72% : : Ron Buonocore 13% : : Harvey Smith 10% : : Jim Carroll 3% : : Lou Manzo 1% : : Jerry Healy 1% ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chuckles posted Message 5550 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 17:00:38 Subject: Thanks Phil..I needed a good laugh We love you Willie....but you ain't got a chance. : Willie Flood 72% : Ron Buonocore 13% : Harvey Smith 10% : Jim Carroll 3% : Lou Manzo 1% : Jerry Healy 1% ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5551 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 17:03:57 Subject: Re: Thanks Phil..I needed a good laugh We wish you well Willie , you are such a nice guy. : We love you Willie....but you ain't got a chance. : : Willie Flood 72% : : Ron Buonocore 13% : : Harvey Smith 10% : : Jim Carroll 3% : : Lou Manzo 1% : : Jerry Healy 1% ***************** End Of Article ****************** Commenting on the Paranoid Fools posted Message 5552 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 17:10:08 Subject: BIGOTS NOT WANTED HERE All bigots should drown in their own bullsh!t. All bigots are unable to help themselves from being beyond contempt. All bigots deserve to be corraled into ghettos...like one of their bretheren named Adolph Hitler tried to do to people he didn't like. Bigots are disgusting. Bigots are a cancer. Bigots undermine our society. And the sadest part of it all ... is that BIGOTS raise children that also become BIGOTS. So lets coral all these BIGOTS and run them out of town before they infest our community. And the particular BIGOT who wrote the previous entry is also an IGNORANT BIGOT. WIllie is a woman j-rkoff. : All homos should get out of Jersey City. Lets start with Louie and Dan. Homos can't help themselves its an illness there born with. Just keep these people away from our kids. Jerry will clean up the city . : And what ever you do don't vote for Willie Flood...He doesn't know how to run a city. : HEALY FOR MAYOR! : : : If you don't know the facts about this man then keep the comments to yourself.As human beings we all have something to say about someone else.Look in the mirror if you have Nothing to hide then put your two cents in.Manzo wants to help the Gay community not hinder it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're a fool - Manzo doesn't drink posted Message 5553 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 17:11:51 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #8 of 100 No Sh-t sherlock....Manzo isn't a responsible drinker. In fact...he doesn't even drink. So much for your knowledge of the candidates. Your reasons 1 through 8 have been total crap. : Lou Manzo is not a responsible drinker. : Jersey City can't afford a boozer in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Danny McMahon posted Message 5554 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 17:27:39 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo --fag. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You only get to try 92 more times posted Message 5555 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 20:11:24 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #8 of 100 :::Not only doesn't Lou drink but I offer these famous or infamous politicians who were anything but responsible drinkers. Winston Churchill - British Prime Minister Joseph Stalin - Dictator Benito Mussolini - Dictator Edward the VIII - King of England The above are dead ones. Here's a few live names we are all familiar with. Ted Kennedy - Senator Bill Gaughan - Councilman and County Chief of Staff Jerry Healy - Councilman-at-Large When you sober up, fool, try again. : Lou Manzo is not a responsible drinker. : Jersey City can't afford a boozer in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5556 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 21:24:01 Subject: Some of my best friends ... are gay. Of course, they are all priests. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE ONLY FLOOD THAT IS AHEAD IS THE ONES CAUSED BY TODAYS RAIN posted Message 5557 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 21:42:43 Subject: Re: Flood ahead in new poll : : Harvey Smith % : Lou Manzo : Jerry Healy ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 5558 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 22:46:28 Subject: Freeholder Meeting Thurs @ 7PM Do you want to see HC corruption on parade? Go to the Freeholders meeting tomorrow night. Bobby M and his protege' Bobby J, want the Freeholders to award a contract to 'Hindsight' a Janisewski company. The only problem is that Hindsight's bid was $842,000 HIGHER than the low bidder. See Tommy Boy DeGise show his utter comtempt for the taxpayers. : When will we see the end of political corruption in Jersey City.The answer is ,when we get rid of the Hudson County political Machine.This machine makes a few very rich at the expense of honest government.The insiders say as long as i get mine,i see no problem.Menendez needs to get his walking papers but soon.Otherwise its the dead march for Jersey City and its taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HARVEY SMITH .....THE ONE HIT WONDER! posted Message 5559 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 22:56:26 Subject: SMITH LIED TO HUNDREDS BY TABLING THE ORDIANCE HUGE, HUGE, MISTAKE SMITH.....IT'S HEALY OR MANZO 4 ME! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 5560 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 22:57:46 Subject: Freeholders Stop Bobby J! The dialog at the Freeholders meeting tomorrow night @ 7 Pm may get a little hot. Seems Tommy DeGise and his 'Dream Team' want the Freeholders to approve a $4,500,000 contract for a Janiszewski company, 'Hindsight'. Janiszewski brought in this company 16 years ago and they want to keep inhaling taxpayer money for another 5 years. THe DeGise Team don't seem to have any problem with this even though Hindsight's bid is $842,000 higher than the low bid. Although this bid was supposed to be awarded via the 'competititive bidding' process, it seeems Tommy Boy's creew doesn't feel any need to really be 'competitive' since Hindsight has contributed over $28,000 to the HCDO in the past four years. Oh yes! HCDO can;t get enough of pay to play, while they screw the taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 5561 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 23:06:37 Subject: How Much Did They Win? How much money did the Buddy team win at the races? and the real question, how much will they contribute to the Jerry campaign and how much will they just put on the bar? Hmm... Will it make a difference? Maybe Jerry can buy a new swim suit? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5562 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 23:29:02 Subject: WHY? You ask why? BECAUSE IT'S A SIN AGAINT GOD!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5563 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 23:31:56 Subject: SINS against GOD Stop with the Bigot nonsense it's not bigotry it's SINS AGAINST GOD... PERIOD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CENSORSHIP! posted Message 5564 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 08, 2004 at 23:39:02 Subject: Re: with a little energy and imagination Yes .. "virtually"... says it all ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're not God posted Message 5565 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 07:11:08 Subject: Re: SINS against GOD If it's a sin against God, then you best let God be the judge and you should worry about yourself. What did Jesus say..."Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"? : Stop with the Bigot nonsense it's not bigotry it's SINS AGAINST GOD... PERIOD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL posted Message 5566 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 07:12:23 Subject: Re: Some of my best friends ... Most of my friends are gay and none of them are priests however a good portion of them were alterboys. : are gay. : Of course, they are all priests. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5567 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 07:22:19 Subject: Re: SINS against GOD Love the Sinner Hate the Sin! But don't love them too closely or they may ge the wrong idea. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sweet Pea and me posted Message 5568 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 07:25:30 Subject: No Menendez has not gained weight That is a fat Xanadu money belt around his waist.Join the hCDO and be part of this good life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bob S posted Message 5569 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 07:32:44 Subject: Pondering who to vote for I have been reading these posts and many are funny, thoughful, but some do cross the line of rude and childish name calling. Take the bad with the good. As our local "special" campaign season begins, I am familiar with most of the candidates as many have thrown their hats in the ring in the last several years at one time or another. I have not made up my mind, but a couple of things really bothers me though about certain candidates. One in particular is Mr Manzo, he has always touted himself as an enviromentalists. As I walk through this city I see the rain has destroyed a good portion of his signs on the street polls. Why would a guy let his workers paste up all that crap about our city? Then buy cheap signs so in two days these signs are all melting from the rain? I am having problems with a man who pretends to be an a great enviromentalist but gets great pleasure seeing his name pasted up all over town on public property. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5570 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 07:55:56 Subject: This shows Manzo's caring Enviromentalist? HA! Jersey City is fined by the State and the Jersey City taxpayers have to foot the bill because a guy isn't doing his job and he's a friend of Lou's? .. A friend Lou not only recommended but prevented from being fired because he wasn't doing his job? Why not ask Lou to pay for the fine out of his campaign funds? Funds he's wasting pasting up all over the city as mentioned. Take those funds and paydown the fine! Show some public good, Stop defending this creep, he cared little for the Jersey City's health or welfare and got his job through Lou's Patronage! If Manzo was a man of the people, then he would never have let this go on. He stepped in on numberous occassions to help his guy Pal aka Lover Danny McMahon (not McMann as reported). He's just like the rest. » The Jersey Journal Jersey City is fined for failure to list hazardous materials Cataloging hazards to public was the task Tuesday, September 07, 2004 By Earl Morgan Journal staff writer The state Department of Health has ordered Jersey City to cough up $105,000 in fines for failing to file state-required reports on hazardous substances in public buildings, officials said. Jersey City Corporation Counsel Hope Blackburn confirmed that state health officials ordered the city to pay the money - the result of $2,000-a-day fines the city compiled beginning March 1, 2002. From Our Advertiser Blackburn said she has contacted state officials to ask that-the Department of Health decrease or suspend the penalties, since efforts are being made to conform with the law that requires municipalities to survey and catalog all hazardous materials stored or used in public buildings. "I've been talking to state officials about the situation to see what can be done," Blackburn said. Daniel McMann, who works for the Jersey City Health Department, had been tasked with keeping the reports up to date. Jersey City's Health and Human Services Director Sergio Lamboy had apparently taken steps to either replace or discipline McMann after receiving complaints from state officials about the situation, but McMann is still a city employee after Assemblyman Louis Manzo, D-Jersey City, came to McMann's defense. Manzo, who also is a candidate for Jersey City mayor, said he became involved in the issue because McMann was hired on his recommendation in 2001. Lamboy said he attempted to take action against McMann after angry state officials notified the city that after five letters, 11 phone calls, and several meetings between November 2002 and March 2003, the city still wasn't in compliance with state regulations. In February, the city was notified that is was being fined $5,000 for failing to file the reports on five city-owned buildings. The city also faced an additional $2,000-a-day penalty, beginning March 1, for every day the reports were not submitted. Jersey City Director of Health Joe Gestagna said he has hired several additional people to work with McMann to comply with the state's requirements. Manzo contends that Jersey City is being unjustly penalized by the state because the fines were levied against the municipality even though officials in Trenton knew the city had no program in place to comply with the "Right To Know" mandate. "I've talked to people over at the state Department of Health and they told me the fines will probably be dropped," Manzo said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Rules posted Message 5571 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 08:00:31 Subject: Nothing will change in Jersey City Menendez has all his bases covered.Learn to live with it Jersey City or move out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** StrongMan posted Message 5572 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 08:04:22 Subject: McCann said he is the only one strong enough to stand up to Menendez I think he may be right from what i see out there. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Acting Mayor posted Message 5573 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 08:19:37 Subject: Harvey Smith is making Joe Rakowski look Good As Acting Mayor How does jersey City get into these predicaments?It must be the Jersey City water.Can we ever top this one as Acting Mayor. I doubt it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5574 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 08:33:59 Subject: alterboys? I thought that they went out of fashion around the time of Lorenzo de Medici. . . : Most of my friends are gay and none of them are priests however a good portion of them were alterboys. : : are gay. : : Of course, they are all priests. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flip Flopper posted Message 5575 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 08:44:12 Subject: Kerry is making Steve Lipski look stable Take about the all time flip flopper.Why does Jersey City always have to be there,up with the best?Menendez is moving up on these two.Dean Yes, Dean No, McGreevey Yes, McGreevey No, McGreevey yes.Corzine Yes,Corzine No.Codey No Codey Yes.I am getting dizzy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's why not! posted Message 5576 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 08:53:29 Subject: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #9 of 100 Lou Manzo will bring back Mark Munley, Jersey City can't afford bad real estate deals in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** take one posted Message 5577 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 08:56:23 Subject: Fulop story soon to be a major motion picture! Woody Allen will play Fulop. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Standing Ovation? posted Message 5578 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 08:57:40 Subject: Democratic State Chairs give McGreevey Standing Ovation I will never vote Democrat everv again.This was the last straw. Senator Kenny ,have you no shame? ***************** End Of Article ****************** tenement square posted Message 5579 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 09:00:19 Subject: Re: McCann said he is the only one strong enough to stand up to Menendez Manzo, what can you tell us about how good Gerry is when it comes to "stand up". : I think he may be right from what i see out there. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5580 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 09:03:43 Subject: Re: Democratic State Chairs give McGreevey Standing Ovation To tell the truth, if it keeps the creep on schedule for getting lost, I'd join in the applause myself! : I will never vote Democrat everv again.This was the last straw. Senator Kenny ,have you no shame? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cucmeister posted Message 5581 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 09:08:05 Subject: Re: McCann said he is the only one strong enough to stand up to Menendez Strongman McCann can't even win his own committeeman district, as witnessed only recently, let alone a freeholder poistion, how does he expect to stand up to Menendez! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stock Pick??? posted Message 5582 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 09:13:16 Subject: Steve Glazer & Carlton McGee @CorpHq Do you remember the big news that these two are now involved with this Company-COHQ.Pk.It was then selling at .09 cents.It is now .04 cents.I will keep you informed on these two.UTN must be real proud.You can reach Steve Glazer at -301-540-8851-Ext-21.If Willie flood wins ,these two will be back running Jersey City for us again.God forbid. ***************** End Of Article ****************** beanie posted Message 5583 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 09:20:30 Subject: Re: Greedy Gaughan : Who will finally send this greedy monster to retirement.... : Same goes for DeGise ... : When will golden rule hurt his family..... : and who are his biggest enemies... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Time will Tell posted Message 5584 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 09:27:27 Subject: The november elections will tell ifJersey City &Hudson County Voters Are still brain Dead or if there is hope for the future. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Taproom Barry posted Message 5585 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 09:28:09 Subject: Judge them by the company they keep! You forgot to mention that it was McCann, as mayor, put that "No Posting on Public Property" sign ordinance in place right before his campaign against Cunningham. Now McCann and his goon squad are at it again. McCann, Former Jersey City mayor, convicted criminal, now Manzo's campaign goon and Assembly Chief of Staff ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO watcher posted Message 5586 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 09:29:27 Subject: THE END IS NEAR! No Hope.. All Sinners Repent now, the End is Near! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5587 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 09:48:34 Subject: no posting on poles : You forgot to mention that it was McCann, as mayor, put that "No Posting on Public Property" sign ordinance in place right before his campaign against Cunningham. Not so. McCann didn't run while Mayor against Cunningham. McCann lost to Cucci. Four years later, McCann, Cucci, Cunningham (and probably others lost to memory at the moment) ran for Mayor. McCann and Cunningham went into a runoff. When the runoff election took place (When McCann ran against Cunningham), Cucci was still Mayor. I think that there always was some sort of no posting on poles law (PSEG sent some poor galoot to threaten me with legal action years ago. I told them to take me to court. I planned on getting on record every PSEG bigwig and every candidate for the last 7 years). The current ordinance was put in under Schundler and Degise. The Central Avenue SID is a good example on how to handle the mess -- just pull 'em down as fast as they go up! You want to show support? Do the right thing and ask businesses and residents to display your candidate's sign. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pat O'Melia posted Message 5588 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 10:37:56 Subject: Journal Square 9/11 Memorial -- September 11, 2004 6 PM Spirit of American Volunteerism To Be Honored As Part Of The 9/11 Memorial & Volunteerism Ceremony September 11, 2004 6 PM Journal Square, Jersey City By The City Of Jersey City, Mayor L. Harvey Smith 9/11 is, of course, about the loss of innocent life – those who were attacked without warning or provocation, and those who went to their deaths trying to help others. But 9/11 is also about the selfless commitment to community, determination and courage that was inspired across America in the days and weeks after the attack. This was a re-kindling of the spirit of volunteerism that is as old and as fundamental to the American character as a colonial barn-raising. The individual gives of him- or herself for the betterment of the whole. The City of Jersey City believes that to faithfully remember those who were lost on 9/11, it is incumbent upon us to honor the commitment to community that reflected some degree of meaning upon their sacrifice. We must therefore always pay tribute to the efforts of those who so willingly gave of themselves in the aftermath of 9/11. But we must do more still – we must try to engender this spirit of community in everyday life. In this way, we can remember those lost on 9/11 not only with sorrow, but also gratitude for their ultimate sacrifice that inspires a continual renewal of the American spirit. On September 11, 2004, at 6 PM, next to the 9/11 Memorial Fountain at Journal Square (alongside Kennedy Boulevard), Jersey City Mayor L. Harvey Smith and other dignitaries will ask all citizens to join them in remembering the 37 Jersey City residents and all those who were lost on 9/11, and to honor five members of our community who have exemplified the American spirit of volunteerism. Three were directly involved in 9/11 relief efforts. Two have shown by their example that commitment to community lives on, strong and free in America. The event will proceed, rain or shine, with the rain alternate location being the Grand Lobby of the Landmark Loew’s Jersey Theatre at Journal Square. For more information, call 201-963-6700 ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Liberal Count posted Message 5589 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 10:44:51 Subject: The liberal Media are giving us the dead count in Iraq at 1,000 Hey Liberals & Menendez.We lost 3,000 on 9-11 .The price of Freedom is not Free.Take the battle to them and dont stop until they are all defeated.God bless us and the USA.Vote in November and support our troopos ***************** End Of Article ****************** Acting Mayor-Get it Acting Mayor posted Message 5590 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 10:50:05 Subject: Pat,what dont you get about Acting Mayor. Soon Ex -Acting Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truthsayer posted Message 5591 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 11:07:13 Subject: Pat and Colin are Fonies of the Loews Just like the Fonies of the Loews to use the sacrefice of the martyrs of 911 to promote thmeselves. Pat and COlin ahve no shame. Pat gets money for ads from the city. Colin has been on the payroll for years. Colin chases away sincere voluneers so that he keeps milking the Loews for all its worth. The only thing these two volunteer is hot air. : Spirit of American Volunteerism To Be Honored As Part Of The 9/11 Memorial & Volunteerism Ceremony : September 11, 2004 6 PM : Journal Square, Jersey City : By The City Of Jersey City, Mayor L. Harvey Smith : 9/11 is, of course, about the loss of innocent life – those who were attacked without warning or provocation, and those who went to their deaths trying to help others. : But 9/11 is also about the selfless commitment to community, determination and courage that was inspired across America in the days and weeks after the attack. : This was a re-kindling of the spirit of volunteerism that is as old and as fundamental to the American character as a colonial barn-raising. The individual gives of him- or herself for the betterment of the whole. : The City of Jersey City believes that to faithfully remember those who were lost on 9/11, it is incumbent upon us to honor the commitment to community that reflected some degree of meaning upon their sacrifice. We must therefore always pay tribute to the efforts of those who so willingly gave of themselves in the aftermath of 9/11. But we must do more still – we must try to engender this spirit of community in everyday life. : In this way, we can remember those lost on 9/11 not only with sorrow, but also gratitude for their ultimate sacrifice that inspires a continual renewal of the American spirit. : On September 11, 2004, at 6 PM, next to the 9/11 Memorial Fountain at Journal Square (alongside Kennedy Boulevard), Jersey City Mayor L. Harvey Smith and other dignitaries will ask all citizens to join them in remembering the 37 Jersey City residents and all those who were lost on 9/11, and to honor five members of our community who have exemplified the American spirit of volunteerism. Three were directly involved in 9/11 relief efforts. Two have shown by their example that commitment to community lives on, strong and free in America. : The event will proceed, rain or shine, with the rain alternate location being the Grand Lobby of the Landmark Loew’s Jersey Theatre at Journal Square. : For more information, call 201-963-6700 ***************** End Of Article ****************** watchout posted Message 5592 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 11:11:02 Subject: Fonies of the Loews record is 1000, they have screwed every mayor so far! Smith gives them the lease and they jump to Manzo. Watchout SMith they will turn the 911 memorial into a Manzo for mayor event and you will be the jersey city version of Abner Louima. Did Colin ever tell the city how all the money was spent and where it goed, Glenn wnated to know but got no answer from the Journal Sqwuare leeches. : Spirit of American Volunteerism To Be Honored As Part Of The 9/11 Memorial & Volunteerism Ceremony : September 11, 2004 6 PM : Journal Square, Jersey City : By The City Of Jersey City, Mayor L. Harvey Smith : 9/11 is, of course, about the loss of innocent life – those who were attacked without warning or provocation, and those who went to their deaths trying to help others. : But 9/11 is also about the selfless commitment to community, determination and courage that was inspired across America in the days and weeks after the attack. : This was a re-kindling of the spirit of volunteerism that is as old and as fundamental to the American character as a colonial barn-raising. The individual gives of him- or herself for the betterment of the whole. : The City of Jersey City believes that to faithfully remember those who were lost on 9/11, it is incumbent upon us to honor the commitment to community that reflected some degree of meaning upon their sacrifice. We must therefore always pay tribute to the efforts of those who so willingly gave of themselves in the aftermath of 9/11. But we must do more still – we must try to engender this spirit of community in everyday life. : In this way, we can remember those lost on 9/11 not only with sorrow, but also gratitude for their ultimate sacrifice that inspires a continual renewal of the American spirit. : On September 11, 2004, at 6 PM, next to the 9/11 Memorial Fountain at Journal Square (alongside Kennedy Boulevard), Jersey City Mayor L. Harvey Smith and other dignitaries will ask all citizens to join them in remembering the 37 Jersey City residents and all those who were lost on 9/11, and to honor five members of our community who have exemplified the American spirit of volunteerism. Three were directly involved in 9/11 relief efforts. Two have shown by their example that commitment to community lives on, strong and free in America. : The event will proceed, rain or shine, with the rain alternate location being the Grand Lobby of the Landmark Loew’s Jersey Theatre at Journal Square. : For more information, call 201-963-6700 ***************** End Of Article ****************** curtain falls posted Message 5593 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 11:14:44 Subject: Will Steve Glazer get Roger Jones a job? Roger Jones is steering SMith to the rocks. Will Glazer set Jones up with a job in the penny stock after Nove 2? :Do you remember the big news that these two are now involved with this Company-COHQ.Pk.It was then selling at .09 cents.It is now .04 cents.I will keep you informed on these two.UTN must be real proud.You can reach Steve Glazer at -301-540-8851-Ext-21.If Willie flood wins ,these two will be back running Jersey City for us again.God forbid. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ex Seton Hall Basketball Player from 50s posted Message 5594 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 11:22:46 Subject: Tom Gaynor From St Peters College Does anyone know how i can reach him. i want to invite him to a party. Thanks in advance ***************** End Of Article ****************** How do you get the spray adhesive off the poles posted Message 5595 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 11:39:51 Subject: Re: no posting on poles It's not so easy to pull the signs down...they put them up with spray adhesives and you may be able to deface a sign but it's mighty difficult to pull down the whole sign and if you do manage to get them down, you've got a nasty residue left from the adhesive. : : You forgot to mention that it was McCann, as mayor, put that "No Posting on Public Property" sign ordinance in place right before his campaign against Cunningham. : Not so. : McCann didn't run while Mayor against Cunningham. McCann lost to Cucci. Four years later, McCann, Cucci, Cunningham (and probably others lost to memory at the moment) ran for Mayor. McCann and Cunningham went into a runoff. When the runoff election took place (When McCann ran against Cunningham), Cucci was still Mayor. : I think that there always was some sort of no posting on poles law (PSEG sent some poor galoot to threaten me with legal action years ago. I told them to take me to court. I planned on getting on record every PSEG bigwig and every candidate for the last 7 years). The current ordinance was put in under Schundler and Degise. : The Central Avenue SID is a good example on how to handle the mess -- just pull 'em down as fast as they go up! You want to show support? Do the right thing and ask businesses and residents to display your candidate's sign. ***************** End Of Article ****************** G-d Forbid posted Message 5596 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 11:41:04 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #9 of 100 Ok...you finally hit on one reason NOT to vote for MANZO. Munley is scum and should be barred for life from ever holding any office in JC. : Lou Manzo will bring back Mark Munley, : Jersey City can't afford bad real estate deals in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bob Sacamano posted Message 5597 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 11:45:45 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor From St Peters College Where you can find Gaynor?, You really don't want us to answer that one do you? LOL ***************** End Of Article ****************** Issues need to be addressed posted Message 5598 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 11:49:20 Subject: JC Mayoral debate Does anyone know if there will be any sort of mayoral debate before the election? I know most of them from their time as public officials but I don't know all of them. The ones that I do know, I don't have a great deal of trust in. This city has issues and I don't know how we can expect to pick someone to fill Mayor Cunningham's term if we don't know what their stands on various issues are. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mayoral Debate posted Message 5599 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 12:00:20 Subject: At Menendez Hoouse-closed to public Only he decides who the jersey city Mayor Will be. Sad but true.ads ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get a life Gaynor posted Message 5600 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 12:17:23 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #9 of 100 :::Gaynor post all this crap. Look at the company he kept. Nuff said. : Ok...you finally hit on one reason NOT to vote for MANZO. Munley is scum and should be barred for life from ever holding any office in JC. : : Lou Manzo will bring back Mark Munley, : : Jersey City can't afford bad real estate deals in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Toe Jam posted Message 5601 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 12:20:54 Subject: Re: Tom Gay Tom Gaynor is a homosexual. He was born with that illness. : Does anyone know how i can reach him. i want to invite him to a party. Thanks in advance ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jesuit Ranger posted Message 5602 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 14:10:50 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor From St Peters College Try looking for Gaynor in the dirt first, next best guess is the curb then the garbage. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mayoral Candidates posted Message 5603 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 14:19:55 Subject: Can Anyone name one Mayoral Candidate That will stand up to Menendez in Jersey City?It seems to me he owns all of them.Can anyone prove otherwise?Remember Glenn Cunningham called for a Xanadu investigation of Menendez before he died.it seems to me that Doria has seen the light on Menendez. Anyone else? ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5604 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 14:34:52 Subject: Re: Can Anyone name one Mayoral Candidate Willie Flood , one hell of a nice guy. : That will stand up to Menendez in Jersey City?It seems to me he owns all of them.Can anyone prove otherwise?Remember Glenn Cunningham called for a Xanadu investigation of Menendez before he died.it seems to me that Doria has seen the light on Menendez. Anyone else? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ugh posted Message 5605 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 14:53:08 Subject: Re: Can Anyone name one Mayoral Candidate Dolan....you're a joke. : Willie Flood , one hell of a nice guy. : : : That will stand up to Menendez in Jersey City?It seems to me he owns all of them.Can anyone prove otherwise?Remember Glenn Cunningham called for a Xanadu investigation of Menendez before he died.it seems to me that Doria has seen the light on Menendez. Anyone else? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Level Field? posted Message 5606 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 14:54:57 Subject: GET NJ showing bias "Degise continues corrupt Janiszewski cruelty to taxpayers! Price $842,000 higher than the low bid OKed because of $28,0000 in contributions?" With this on your front page....don't you think you are showing just a LITTLE bias? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Plebius posted Message 5607 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 15:36:36 Subject: Re: Can Anyone name one Mayoral Candidate Is that why we should elected a candidate ... to stand up to other candidates? They are all the same? ***************** End Of Article ****************** paco posted Message 5608 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 15:57:39 Subject: Re: Can Anyone name one Mayoral Candidate : That will stand up to Menendez in Jersey City?It seems to me he owns all of them.Can anyone prove otherwise?Remember Glenn Cunningham called for a Xanadu investigation of Menendez before he died.it seems to me that Doria has seen the light on Menendez. Anyone else? ;;;;Can anyone count the number of city/county jobs the Gaughan family holds. For extra credit, state whether any of them show up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5609 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 16:26:29 Subject: Watcha' waitin' for? GO right ahead and educate us all! What's the true story? Is another $800K over the top bidder gonna get selected? Or is it like a mother goose? Bobby J's budget was a beached whale, bloated and rotten. There should be no peekaboo tax. There should be a slash and burn of the deadwood followed by a tax holiday. : "Degise continues corrupt Janiszewski cruelty to taxpayers! : Price $842,000 higher than the low bid OKed because of $28,0000 in contributions?" : With this on your front page....don't you think you are showing just a LITTLE bias? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BB KING posted Message 5610 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 16:27:59 Subject: HEALY WILL DRINK AWAY ALL OF THE PROBLEMS IN JERSEY CITY. WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM GAUGHAN & DEGISE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Me Teacher! Pick Me Teacher! posted Message 5611 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 16:28:27 Subject: Re: Can Anyone name one Mayoral Candidate : : That will stand up to Menendez in Jersey City?It seems to me he owns all of them.Can anyone prove otherwise?Remember Glenn Cunningham called for a Xanadu investigation of Menendez before he died.it seems to me that Doria has seen the light on Menendez. Anyone else? : ;;;;Can anyone count the number of city/county jobs the Gaughan family holds. For extra credit, state whether any of them show up. ::::: 95%of jobs and NO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** bluetrue posted Message 5612 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 17:25:13 Subject: Re: GET NJ showing bias : "Degise continues corrupt Janiszewski cruelty to taxpayers! : Price $842,000 higher than the low bid OKed because of $28,0000 in contributions?" : With this on your front page....don't you think you are showing just a LITTLE bias? ;;;Is that a denial or just a complaint because of exposure. I don't read denial. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No Spin Zone posted Message 5613 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 17:26:58 Subject: HEALY WILL WIN Harvey's an idiot. Manzo is in the closet...has an ex-con running his campaign and a brother going to jail. Bounocore is corrupt....on the take for years Willie has fools leading her around by the nose. And the best this crew of misfits can say about a respected Judge, Councilman and barrister is that he has an occassional drink. What a bunch of losers. : DRINK AWAY ALL OF THE PROBLEMS IN JERSEY CITY. WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM GAUGHAN & DEGISE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GETNJ Showing a little bais posted Message 5614 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 17:31:14 Subject: Re: Watcha' waitin' for? I don't need to educate you. I was pointing out what is very obviously a slant on this web site. For the record....I do not support DeGise. I do not work for any city or county department or agency. I do read this board and find it disingenuous for you to put it forward as an open non-bias forum and then to put that headline/link on the front page. You do yourself a disservice and you make your readers question your bias. : GO right ahead and educate us all! What's the true story? Is another $800K over the top bidder gonna get selected? Or is it like a mother goose? : Bobby J's budget was a beached whale, bloated and rotten. There should be no peekaboo tax. There should be a slash and burn of the deadwood followed by a tax holiday. : : "Degise continues corrupt Janiszewski cruelty to taxpayers! : : Price $842,000 higher than the low bid OKed because of $28,0000 in contributions?" : : With this on your front page....don't you think you are showing just a LITTLE bias? ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown poster posted Message 5615 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 17:42:43 Subject: If Bill Gaughan put a paper bag over his head what would you call it. Alcoholic anonymous ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5616 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 17:56:58 Subject: What's your point? I don't catch whatever it is that ye'r drivin' at. Ways I sees it, non-bias means everybody can post, posts get deleted according to the same policy (a pro-Bush post got pulled today), and everybody gets the same level of assistance if they request it. Fair doesn't mean I don't call it the way I see it. (I'd call that sneaky. Here everybody whether they want to or not gets to know what's on my mind.) Fair means everybody else gets the chance to pitch their two pennies into the fountain. Where there are two sides to a story, I make every effort to show that. Here you'll see a Page with video of Congressman Menendez's success stories, a Page questioning Menendez campaign expenditures, and a Page with both sides of the Menendez-Cunningham feud. If I don't see another side, I'm not going to try and make one up. Anybody out there is welcome to prove me wrong! : I don't need to educate you. I was pointing out what is very obviously a slant on this web site. For the record....I do not support DeGise. I do not work for any city or county department or agency. I do read this board and find it disingenuous for you to put it forward as an open non-bias forum and then to put that headline/link on the front page. You do yourself a disservice and you make your readers question your bias. : : GO right ahead and educate us all! What's the true story? Is another $800K over the top bidder gonna get selected? Or is it like a mother goose? : : Bobby J's budget was a beached whale, bloated and rotten. There should be no peekaboo tax. There should be a slash and burn of the deadwood followed by a tax holiday. : : : "Degise continues corrupt Janiszewski cruelty to taxpayers! : : : Price $842,000 higher than the low bid OKed because of $28,0000 in contributions?" : : : With this on your front page....don't you think you are showing just a LITTLE bias? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Piatkowski For Congress posted Message 5617 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 18:14:13 Subject: Menendez Failed to Protect our Families Piatkowski For Congress Republican Candidate For the House of Representatives 13th Congressional District www.piatkowski2004.com September 9, 2004 For Immediate Release: Contact: Richard Piatkowski 732-277-2400 Menendez Failed to Protect our Families Republican candidate for Congress, Richard Piatkowski, today attacked his opponent for failing to act on Homeland Security. Piatkowski comments on this statement at Bob Menendez’s web site: “Everyone needs a champion. We've got one in Congressman Bob Menendez…. The tragic events of September 11th changed the world in which we live. After the attacks, Bob was named Chairman of the Democratic Caucus Homeland Security Task Force.” Richard Piatkowski said, “I wish that Bob Menendez used as much effort in protecting our shores as he does in working at impressing everyone!” “The 13th Congressional District is just across the river from Ground Zero. Here are the ports of Elizabeth and Newark, Newark Liberty Airport and New York Harbor -- all prime targets for potential terrorist attacks. The area’s security should be the Representative’s top concern. Menendez’s priorities in this regard are all out of whack. Defending our region must be more important than party politics. “For example, what did this self-professed ‘champion’ do, when Democrat NJ Governor McGreevey fancied hiring someone with whom he was personally involved as New Jersey’s director of Homeland Security? Menendez sat on his partisanship and did NOTHING.” Without sorting through all the grimy details, the Republican challenger points out that Jim McGreevey presented questionable credentials for an unqualified foreign national -- Golan Cipel -- to the hazard of every citizen in NJ. Bob Menendez knew that Cipel was totally unqualified and unfit for this all-important post. Rather than doing what was right; rather than speaking out against this travesty, our congressman allowed McGreevey to put us all in harm’s way. “I know of more than one State Legislator that has put a wife or girlfriend on his payroll as part of his ‘staff’”, said Piatkowski. “I know of a Councilman or two that makes sure that members of his immediate and “extended” families obtain municipal and/or board of education jobs. “I even know of a Congressman who helped his girlfriend get not one, but two jobs at taxpayer expense. “Though of course still very wrong, at least none of these offending officials put citizens’ lives in dire peril. That’s exactly what the disgraced McGreevey did by appointing the poet and tour guide Golan Cipel to the most security sensitive position imaginable. “There is no way that this could have been carried out by the Governor without the partisan silence of Congressman Menendez. He obviously preferred to have this ill-suited person get paid over $100,000/year to direct the security of New Jersey rather than a previous director of the FBI who had offered to do the job for no salary. “If truth in advertising laws applied to politicians, Menendez would have to put this on his web site: For Robert Menendez, party politics are more important than the Nation’s safety. “Which proves”, concluded Piatkowski, “that Bob Menendez manages to sit in committees, but doesn’t get the real job done, the job he was elected to do. When a truly important decision must be made Bob’s priority is politics above people. What good is it to be the ’third ranking Democrat in Congress’ when Menendez allows our families, our State and even our Country to be put at risk?” -30- ***************** End Of Article ****************** Level Playing Field posted Message 5618 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 18:27:54 Subject: Re: What's your point? First...I do not support DeGise. What I was pointing out was the BLARRING HEADLINE that you have on your home page>>> "Degise continues corrupt Janiszewski cruelty to taxpayers! Price $842,000 higher than the low bid OKed because of $28,0000 in contributions?" I just find it a bit slanted for the host of this page to put such an inflamatory headline on the homepage. To this reader it seems biased. To this reader it seems slanted. You posted pro-Harvey photos...no complaint since you post photos each candidate sends to you. But this headline and link seems biased as a stand-alone link. Posts are one thing. STAND ALONE HYPERLINKS Boxed in YELLOW with RED lettering are a whole other thing. That's My Opinion...and according to Bill O'Reilly on Fox's "No SPin ZOne"....I am entitled to it. : I don't catch whatever it is that ye'r drivin' at. Ways I sees it, non-bias means everybody can post, posts get deleted according to the same policy (a pro-Bush post got pulled today), and everybody gets the same level of assistance if they request it. : Fair doesn't mean I don't call it the way I see it. (I'd call that sneaky. Here everybody whether they want to or not gets to know what's on my mind.) Fair means everybody else gets the chance to pitch their two pennies into the fountain. : Where there are two sides to a story, I make every effort to show that. Here you'll see a Page with video of Congressman Menendez's success stories, a Page questioning Menendez campaign expenditures, and a Page with both sides of the Menendez-Cunningham feud. If I don't see another side, I'm not going to try and make one up. Anybody out there is welcome to prove me wrong! : : I don't need to educate you. I was pointing out what is very obviously a slant on this web site. For the record....I do not support DeGise. I do not work for any city or county department or agency. I do read this board and find it disingenuous for you to put it forward as an open non-bias forum and then to put that headline/link on the front page. You do yourself a disservice and you make your readers question your bias. : : : GO right ahead and educate us all! What's the true story? Is another $800K over the top bidder gonna get selected? Or is it like a mother goose? : : : Bobby J's budget was a beached whale, bloated and rotten. There should be no peekaboo tax. There should be a slash and burn of the deadwood followed by a tax holiday. : : : : "Degise continues corrupt Janiszewski cruelty to taxpayers! : : : : Price $842,000 higher than the low bid OKed because of $28,0000 in contributions?" : : : : With this on your front page....don't you think you are showing just a LITTLE bias? ***************** End Of Article ****************** menendez fan posted Message 5619 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 18:31:29 Subject: Re: Menendez Failed to Protect our Families Piatowski you dont know what that hell you talking about! ***************** End Of Article ****************** extra credit question posted Message 5620 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 18:40:13 Subject: How many Gaughan relatives live in public housing? Pretty good trick. Have the public pay you a salary for a no show job and then chip in for your rent on top of that. A vote for Healy is a vote for Gaughan and Degise. ***************** End Of Article ****************** James Kennelly posted Message 5621 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 18:45:57 Subject: Re: Watcha' waitin' for? Here's your education: The only bias was in that disgraceful, unbylined Jersey Journal story today. I have just let Augie Torres have it over that piece of garbage story. Our administration was never contacted to respond. But here's a few things to chew on before one of you undoubtedly follows up by attacking Tom or me: Poreda, a business associate of Paul Byrne, has a lot of balls to say something like, "I thought Janizewski left," in that story. No, you thought he was still here, pal, that's why you're so aggravated. The telecom contract was a NO-BID until Tom DeGise made it a competitive contracting process contract. The no bid was under Janiszewski and Byrne. The competitive contracting process was created by the STATE to allow localities to use competition to find the best services through competition. It is different than the RFP process because rock bottom price for certain key services is not always the best choice. But under this process, competition is still possible and can help localities do a better job of servicing their needs. Just like individuals can choose between a $19.95 a month 56K dial-up internet provider and a $39.95 a month high speed cable modem internet provider, so too the County has to choose based on its needs, not just the final price. Now if an individual is going to send a few emails a month, $19.95 dial-up makes sense. But if they run a home business doing graphic design or editing, they might opt for the high speed service because the price differential is worth it. We have an complex, older telcom infrastructure that Hindsight has done an outstanding job servicing. The same good government champions who think Paul Byrne's business associate should get this contract in the name of the taxpayer probably think we should just upgrade our whole telecom operation to make it a better fit for Desktop's (Poreda's) expertise. That would cost the taxpayers a fortune -- we're not doing it. This isn't a contract for rock salt. It's a complex, tough job, and having 10 out of 55 invitees come in to meet with us about it is not a poor result. Poreda was not eliminated because he was "invalidated on technicalities." Poreda failed to submit the most basic company information and provide the most basic state business form and was warned about this last year. He still did it this year. These kind of ommissions would have sunk a minority painting contractor from quoting on a $2,000 seal painting job, let alone a firm competing for a crucial multi-year county-wide telecom contract.They included: No New Jersey Business Registration Certificate No three years of financial statements containing documents and information consistent with the specifications(balance sheets, income and expense statements and retained earnings) No signed declaration of expertise. No past client contact phone numbers or fax numbers. Inconsistency between financial statements and personel matrix Federal Tax ID number not supplied or incomplete. Why does this matter? Well our website, which some the lameos here like to attack for having old info on it, has been a nightmare to manage. Why? Because it has to be housed on our own servers and serviced remotely--adding weeks and months to changes and for long time leaving it vulnerable to hacking because it wasn't built behind the county firewall. Why? Because the last website the County had, under a previous administration, was housed on servers not on county property so when the fly-bynight company that hosted them went belly up, by-by went county website. Financials matter. Basic state documents that a mom and pop store have to have matter. Poreda wants to paint his incompetence as victimization. It's a joke. And of course no post about this would be complete without the "Geoff Perselay Controls the Universe Angle" right? Look, Tom DeGise and Perselay have no significant personal relationship and Perselay gives to a host of county parties and pacs around the state, little of it goes to Tom DeGise. Check our nj elect or email me and I'll send you Tom's elec statements. Perselay was against us in the 2001 mayoral. He has played in one or two golfing events that Tom has been invited to. That's it. What about Abe Antun? Abe Antun is honest. End of story. If you want to attack from that angle, you've got more balls than Poreda. Abe Antun ran for Commissioner in Union City in 1996 and couldn't tell guys looking for subsidized apartments anything except, "well you have to get on the list" while out campaigning. It was precisely that kind of Mr. Spock-like inhuman truth telling that let Brian Stack kick his ass so easily and I'm happy to say to this day makes him a valuable asset to Tom DeGise's administration. For god's sake he won't let more than ten of us have voice mail in the whole county because it's too expensive! Bill O'Dea is entitled to his opinion. But equating Tom DeGise to Bob Janiszewski as Poreda did in that story is outrageous. Byrne and Perselay can go on slashing at each other if they want, but one of their flunkies doesn't have the right to slime Tom DeGise in the process. Neither do any of the hacks who spend so much of their taxpayer funded time here. : GO right ahead and educate us all! What's the true story? Is another $800K over the top bidder gonna get selected? Or is it like a mother goose? : Bobby J's budget was a beached whale, bloated and rotten. There should be no peekaboo tax. There should be a slash and burn of the deadwood followed by a tax holiday. : : "Degise continues corrupt Janiszewski cruelty to taxpayers! : : Price $842,000 higher than the low bid OKed because of $28,0000 in contributions?" : : With this on your front page....don't you think you are showing just a LITTLE bias? ***************** End Of Article ****************** CENSORSHIP posted Message 5622 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 18:46:07 Subject: Uberhippy Uberhippy, You talk a good game, but more people are onto you. You are selective as to what you leave up and what you agree with. Not to mention those stupid Cheshire Cat photosm, we all know where you coming from. UBER = SCHUNDLERITE Censorship - Bias.... hmmm it's all clear s other catch on. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WOW posted Message 5623 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 19:11:44 Subject: Re: Watcha' waitin' for? Hey Jim... try drinking a little less coffee. Maybe decaf for a change. You are definately wound a little too tightly. Gonna give yourself an ulcer this way. : Here's your education: : The only bias was in that disgraceful, unbylined Jersey Journal story today. I have : just let Augie Torres have it over that piece of garbage story. Our administration : was never contacted to respond. : But here's a few things to chew on before one of you undoubtedly follows up : by attacking Tom or me: : Poreda, a business associate of Paul Byrne, has a lot of balls to say something like, "I : thought Janizewski left," in that story. No, you thought he was still here, pal, that's : why you're so aggravated. : The telecom contract was a NO-BID until Tom DeGise made it a competitive : contracting process contract. The no bid was under Janiszewski and Byrne. : The competitive contracting process was created by the STATE to allow localities to : use competition to find the best services through competition. It is different than : the RFP process because rock bottom price for certain key services is not always the : best choice. But under this process, competition is still possible and can help : localities do a better job of servicing their needs. : Just like individuals can choose between a $19.95 a month 56K dial-up internet : provider and a $39.95 a month high speed cable modem internet provider, so too : the County has to choose based on its needs, not just the final price. : Now if an individual is going to send a few emails a month, $19.95 dial-up makes : sense. But if they run a home business doing graphic design or editing, they might : opt for the high speed service because the price differential is worth it. : We have an complex, older telcom infrastructure that Hindsight has done an : outstanding job servicing. The same good government champions who think Paul : Byrne's business associate should get this contract in the name of the taxpayer : probably think we should just upgrade our whole telecom operation to make it a : better fit for Desktop's (Poreda's) expertise. That would cost the taxpayers a fortune : -- we're not doing it. : This isn't a contract for rock salt. It's a complex, tough job, and having 10 out of 55 : invitees come in to meet with us about it is not a poor result. : Poreda was not eliminated because he was "invalidated on technicalities." : Poreda failed to submit the most basic company information and provide the most : basic state business form and was warned about this last year. He still did it this : year. These kind of ommissions would have sunk a minority painting contractor : from quoting on a $2,000 seal painting job, let alone a firm competing for a crucial : multi-year county-wide telecom contract.They included: : No New Jersey Business Registration Certificate : No three years of financial statements containing documents and information : consistent with the specifications(balance sheets, income and expense statements : and retained earnings) : No signed declaration of expertise. : No past client contact phone numbers or fax numbers. : Inconsistency between financial statements and personel matrix : Federal Tax ID number not supplied or incomplete. : Why does this matter? Well our website, which some the lameos here like to attack : for having old info on it, has been a nightmare to manage. Why? Because it has to be : housed on our own servers and serviced remotely--adding weeks and months to : changes and for long time leaving it vulnerable to hacking because it wasn't built : behind the county firewall. Why? Because the last website the County had, under a : previous administration, was housed on servers not on county property so when the : fly-bynight company that hosted them went belly up, by-by went county website. : Financials matter. Basic state documents that a mom and pop store have to have : matter. Poreda wants to paint his incompetence as victimization. It's a joke. : And of course no post about this would be complete without the "Geoff Perselay : Controls the Universe Angle" right? : Look, Tom DeGise and Perselay have no significant personal relationship and : Perselay gives to a host of county parties and pacs around the state, little of it goes : to Tom DeGise. Check our nj elect or email me and I'll send you Tom's elec : statements. Perselay was against us in the 2001 mayoral. He has played in one or : two golfing events that Tom has been invited to. That's it. : What about Abe Antun? Abe Antun is honest. End of story. If you want to attack : from that angle, you've got more balls than Poreda. Abe Antun ran for : Commissioner in Union City in 1996 and couldn't tell guys looking for subsidized : apartments anything except, "well you have to get on the list" while out : campaigning. It was precisely that kind of Mr. Spock-like inhuman truth telling that : let Brian Stack kick his ass so easily and I'm happy to say to this day makes him a : valuable asset to Tom DeGise's administration. For god's sake he won't let more : than ten of us have voice mail in the whole county because it's too expensive! : Bill O'Dea is entitled to his opinion. But equating Tom DeGise to Bob Janiszewski as : Poreda did in that story is outrageous. : Byrne and Perselay can go on slashing at each other if they want, but one of their : flunkies doesn't have the right to slime Tom DeGise in the process. Neither do any : of the hacks who spend so much of their taxpayer funded time here. : : : GO right ahead and educate us all! What's the true story? Is another $800K over : the top bidder gonna get selected? Or is it like a mother goose? : : Bobby J's budget was a beached whale, bloated and rotten. There should be no : peekaboo tax. There should be a slash and burn of the deadwood followed by a tax : holiday. : : : "Degise continues corrupt Janiszewski cruelty to taxpayers! : : : Price $842,000 higher than the low bid OKed because of $28,0000 in : contributions?" : : : With this on your front page....don't you think you are showing just a LITTLE bias? ***************** End Of Article ****************** He and his relatives are leaches posted Message 5624 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 19:14:33 Subject: Re: How many Gaughan relatives live in public housing? Gaughan is a leach. His daughter is a leach. His whole family lives off the business of death. He is in his glory only when others are in pain. He disgusts me. : Pretty good trick. Have the public pay you a salary for a no show job and then chip in for your rent on top of that. : A vote for Healy is a vote for Gaughan and Degise. ***************** End Of Article ****************** the other side posted Message 5625 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 20:18:11 Subject: Hey, Kounty Konniver Kennelly, What about the Menendez Letter? Do you think that by playing the jabberwocky and fool everybody will forget about looking into why Hindsight was given the gold? MENENDEZ SAID SO! Use the link below to read the article by noted journalist Steve Glazer on the Hindsight-Menendez connection. ***************** End Of Article ****************** L@@K HERE! posted Message 5626 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 20:22:04 Subject: Hindsight has been a frequent and long-time contributor to various Hudson County Democratic Organization campaign funds and Political Action Committees. Hindsight is allegedly owned by Jeff Persilay, formerly chief of staff to ex-County Executive Bob Janizewski, who is now cooperating with a federal investigation of corruption. Hindsight has been a frequent and long-time contributor to various Hudson County Democratic Organization campaign funds and Political Action Committees. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 91 more chances Tom posted Message 5627 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 21:14:39 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #9 of 100 :::Healy will bring Gaughan & Company. Smith will bring rest of family & friends plus Nation of Islam Buonocore will bring the Gestapo & KGB Flood will bring a smile Carroll will bring a dossier on each. Keep trying A$$hole. You are not going to get your job back. : Lou Manzo will bring back Mark Munley, : Jersey City can't afford bad real estate deals in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Observer posted Message 5628 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 21:30:13 Subject: Kennelly post ? I'd be curious to know if the post below, purportedly from Jim Kennelly, is really from him. If it is, it was a rather hysterical and ill-conceived defense of a company, Hindsight, which has done a poor job in County government for years while remaining, on the whole, totally unaccountable. Don't get me wrong. I'm no Poreda supporter. But as someone who has observed the performance of Mr. Delaney's company for years, I believe it is highly disingenuous for Mr. Kennelly to defend Hindsight as best qualified to receive the County contract. Any survey of County staff will reveal that most are totally dissatisfied with the computer support and services Hindsight provides. As for the "old telcom" structure that the County uses; Hindsight has had over 15 years to address this issue and has done little or nothing. Hindsight is a small and undistinguised firm from Central New Jersey, with an owner who has learned to use the Hudson County political system very well. Mr. Delaney has spent years schmoozing County pols, from Janiszewski to Perselay to Antun to Menendez. He has contributed thousands of dollars to make sure his contract remained in place. Mr. Kennelly, if you did indeed post the comments below, please don't insult our intelligence by maintaining there was no favoritism in this contract process. "Competitive contracting" can easily be manipulated to favor a preferred vendor. I am sure Mr. Antun and his minions greased the skids for Hindsight to win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5629 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 21:59:43 Subject: Re: Uberhippy : Not to mention those stupid Cheshire Cat photosm, we all know where you coming from. I don't post many pictures of myself because I rarely smile. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 5630 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 22:49:07 Subject: Piatkowski for Dog catcher Just based on the music on his website, I would vote for him to be our Congressman.... NOT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CENSORSHIP posted Message 5631 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 09, 2004 at 23:25:41 Subject: Re: Uberhippy Here we go again with Uberhippy, Censorship and making sure you get the last word! Where is my last post about Tilly? ***************** End Of Article ****************** act natural posted Message 5632 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 09:07:15 Subject: Might one ask Ignoring for the moment the possibility of ossification of the brain from trying to keep up with Bill Gaughan, where does the artifcial stupidity end and the honest to goodness god-given idiocy begin? All corners say that Poreda's only asset was Paul Byrne's influence. That gone, Poreda is flushed. You set it up as if your only choice for computer and telephone support was Poreda or Hindsight. They both should be thrown out of the building. The Metro region is just chock full of tech support companies. Also, why are you putting the phone and pc support together into a very odd combo. Do you think the world is stupid and if not xxactly what was affecting your mind (what they sell to me at the dunkin donuts don't have that effect) when you dribble on about the wonderful effect on local government from your interacting with different vendors.(Oh, by the way, does that translate into BG and you hosing the poor saps down for free drinks?) Who cares how many vendors you waste the time of if the Degise is going to be Officer Volpe to the Hudson County tax payer and stick to them but good. The fix was in with the Menendez letter and probably the only question was how much over 500k and how much under a million the overcharge was to be. The real sad story is that the outfit is not even up to the task so Hudson COunty is paying through the nose for an incompetent that can't throw the ball. ANd do you like think that you is talking to a bunch of peasants as you go on about how hard it is to set up voice mail and a web site. Every little dentist office has a right up there with the best of them voice mail and web site. If you and BG can't swing it then just keep sitting in the bar and let somebody in to do the job. : Here's your education: : The only bias was in that disgraceful, unbylined Jersey Journal story today. I have : just let Augie Torres have it over that piece of garbage story. Our administration : was never contacted to respond. : But here's a few things to chew on before one of you undoubtedly follows up : by attacking Tom or me: : Poreda, a business associate of Paul Byrne, has a lot of balls to say something like, "I : thought Janizewski left," in that story. No, you thought he was still here, pal, that's : why you're so aggravated. : The telecom contract was a NO-BID until Tom DeGise made it a competitive : contracting process contract. The no bid was under Janiszewski and Byrne. : The competitive contracting process was created by the STATE to allow localities to : use competition to find the best services through competition. It is different than : the RFP process because rock bottom price for certain key services is not always the : best choice. But under this process, competition is still possible and can help : localities do a better job of servicing their needs. : Just like individuals can choose between a $19.95 a month 56K dial-up internet : provider and a $39.95 a month high speed cable modem internet provider, so too : the County has to choose based on its needs, not just the final price. : Now if an individual is going to send a few emails a month, $19.95 dial-up makes : sense. But if they run a home business doing graphic design or editing, they might : opt for the high speed service because the price differential is worth it. : We have an complex, older telcom infrastructure that Hindsight has done an : outstanding job servicing. The same good government champions who think Paul : Byrne's business associate should get this contract in the name of the taxpayer : probably think we should just upgrade our whole telecom operation to make it a : better fit for Desktop's (Poreda's) expertise. That would cost the taxpayers a fortune : -- we're not doing it. : This isn't a contract for rock salt. It's a complex, tough job, and having 10 out of 55 : invitees come in to meet with us about it is not a poor result. : Poreda was not eliminated because he was "invalidated on technicalities." : Poreda failed to submit the most basic company information and provide the most : basic state business form and was warned about this last year. He still did it this : year. These kind of ommissions would have sunk a minority painting contractor : from quoting on a $2,000 seal painting job, let alone a firm competing for a crucial : multi-year county-wide telecom contract.They included: : No New Jersey Business Registration Certificate : No three years of financial statements containing documents and information : consistent with the specifications(balance sheets, income and expense statements : and retained earnings) : No signed declaration of expertise. : No past client contact phone numbers or fax numbers. : Inconsistency between financial statements and personel matrix : Federal Tax ID number not supplied or incomplete. : Why does this matter? Well our website, which some the lameos here like to attack : for having old info on it, has been a nightmare to manage. Why? Because it has to be : housed on our own servers and serviced remotely--adding weeks and months to : changes and for long time leaving it vulnerable to hacking because it wasn't built : behind the county firewall. Why? Because the last website the County had, under a : previous administration, was housed on servers not on county property so when the : fly-bynight company that hosted them went belly up, by-by went county website. : Financials matter. Basic state documents that a mom and pop store have to have : matter. Poreda wants to paint his incompetence as victimization. It's a joke. : And of course no post about this would be complete without the "Geoff Perselay : Controls the Universe Angle" right? : Look, Tom DeGise and Perselay have no significant personal relationship and : Perselay gives to a host of county parties and pacs around the state, little of it goes : to Tom DeGise. Check our nj elect or email me and I'll send you Tom's elec : statements. Perselay was against us in the 2001 mayoral. He has played in one or : two golfing events that Tom has been invited to. That's it. : What about Abe Antun? Abe Antun is honest. End of story. If you want to attack : from that angle, you've got more balls than Poreda. Abe Antun ran for : Commissioner in Union City in 1996 and couldn't tell guys looking for subsidized : apartments anything except, "well you have to get on the list" while out : campaigning. It was precisely that kind of Mr. Spock-like inhuman truth telling that : let Brian Stack kick his ass so easily and I'm happy to say to this day makes him a : valuable asset to Tom DeGise's administration. For god's sake he won't let more : than ten of us have voice mail in the whole county because it's too expensive! : Bill O'Dea is entitled to his opinion. But equating Tom DeGise to Bob Janiszewski as : Poreda did in that story is outrageous. : Byrne and Perselay can go on slashing at each other if they want, but one of their : flunkies doesn't have the right to slime Tom DeGise in the process. Neither do any : of the hacks who spend so much of their taxpayer funded time here. : : : GO right ahead and educate us all! What's the true story? Is another $800K over : the top bidder gonna get selected? Or is it like a mother goose? : : Bobby J's budget was a beached whale, bloated and rotten. There should be no : peekaboo tax. There should be a slash and burn of the deadwood followed by a tax : holiday. : : : "Degise continues corrupt Janiszewski cruelty to taxpayers! : : : Price $842,000 higher than the low bid OKed because of $28,0000 in : contributions?" : : : With this on your front page....don't you think you are showing just a LITTLE bias? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's why not! posted Message 5633 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 09:09:04 Subject: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #10 of 100 Lou Manzo is a troublemaker to get attention. When he was health officer he brought crazy charges against restaurants just to get his name in the papers. Jersey City can't afford someone just out for themselves and out of control in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ummmm... posted Message 5634 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 09:29:56 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #10 of 100 : Jersey City can't afford someone just out for themselves and out of control in the mayor's office. Aren't they all out just for themselves??? They're certainly not out for us. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Only 90 more to go Tom posted Message 5635 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 09:34:48 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #10 of 100 :::Let's see, what candidate aint out for themselves: Smith touting he was Glenn's friend while firing or terrorizing anyone aligned with him. Hires friends and family, bestowes hefty raises on those he likes. Nope, cant be him. Buonocore wants to run for mayor despite not living or voting here. Can bring on a lawsuit faster than a speeding bullet. Nope, cant be him. Healy allowing himself to be used by Gaughan and Degise. Just in it for the medical benefits. (His wife told me that after a few drinks) Cant be him. Its everyone around him. Flood wants all the other candidates to drop out. ROFLMAO Carroll is the only one that without a personal agenda or vendetta and he has no voter base. Just keep trying idiot. By the time reason 100 comes up, maybe that one braincell you have will be working again. : Lou Manzo is a troublemaker to get attention. : When he was health officer he brought crazy charges against restaurants just to get his name in the papers. : Jersey City can't afford someone just out for themselves and out of control in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Take it easy Princess b4 you bust a blood vessel posted Message 5636 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 09:53:38 Subject: Re: HEALY WILL WIN : Harvey's an idiot. : Manzo is in the closet...has an ex-con running his campaign and a brother going to jail. : Bounocore is corrupt....on the take for years : Willie has fools leading her around by the nose. : And the best this crew of misfits can say about a respected Judge, Councilman and barrister is that he has an occassional drink. What a bunch of losers. : : DRINK AWAY ALL OF THE PROBLEMS IN JERSEY CITY. WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM GAUGHAN & DEGISE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 5637 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 10:08:58 Subject: Hidden Agenda I wonder if any of these stupid posts about the computer service used by the Hudson Couny Admin would have been even mentioned if COMPUTERCRAFT got the County Contract? Why?, the same makers who bring you this website, who also hate Menendez also own ComputerCraft. Also their clients/webmasters of the Hudson County GOP site. Gee why a surpise... think there is any bias going on here? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Logic posted Message 5638 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 10:55:35 Subject: Re: Hidden Agenda Perhaps if Computer Craft had gotten the contract...there wouldn't be anything to complain about. Perhaps they would have actually worked for the money the county pays for tech support and service. But then again....that would be a bit novel in Hudson County. : I wonder if any of these stupid posts about the computer service used by the Hudson Couny Admin would have been even mentioned if COMPUTERCRAFT got the County Contract? : Why?, the same makers who bring you this website, who also hate Menendez also own ComputerCraft. Also their clients/webmasters of the Hudson County GOP site. : Gee why a surpise... think there is any bias going on here? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BB KING posted Message 5639 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 11:02:44 Subject: Re: HEALY WILL WIN THE DRINKING CONTEST. : : Harvey's an idiot. : : Manzo is in the closet...has an ex-con running his campaign and a brother going to jail. : : Bounocore is corrupt....on the take for years : : Willie has fools leading her around by the nose. : : And the best this crew of misfits can say about a respected Judge, Councilman and barrister is that he has an occassional drink. What a bunch of losers. : : : DRINK AWAY ALL OF THE PROBLEMS IN JERSEY CITY. WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM GAUGHAN & DEGISE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** When? Where? posted Message 5640 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 11:31:25 Subject: *Hic* : THE DRINKING CONTEST. : : : Harvey's an idiot. : : : Manzo is in the closet...has an ex-con running his campaign and a brother going to jail. : : : Bounocore is corrupt....on the take for years : : : Willie has fools leading her around by the nose. : : : And the best this crew of misfits can say about a respected Judge, Councilman and barrister is that he has an occassional drink. What a bunch of losers. : : : : DRINK AWAY ALL OF THE PROBLEMS IN JERSEY CITY. WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM GAUGHAN & DEGISE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** PaddyMac posted Message 5641 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 11:35:29 Subject: A move in the right direction At least you wouldn't have to look at his out-of-date pompodore hair do or his blood shot eyes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Only A Matter of Time posted Message 5642 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 11:45:10 Subject: Menendez Downfall = Kay Licausi The Downfall of Boss Menendez will be Kay Licausi and HIS interests in KL Strategies Inc. tick......tick........tick...... ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Poreda posted Message 5643 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 12:23:17 Subject: THe Janiszewski Compnay 'Hindsight' Stays on the payroll THe Freeholder Board last night, voted to again give this contract to Hindsight, in-spite that it was $842,000 more than the bid of Desktop Computers. The bid of Desktop was throw-out because a 'business certificate' was missing and fax numbers for references were not provided. The vote was not unanamous howeveer, Voting against: O'Dea, Dublin and Rivas Voting for: Fitzgibbons, Cifelli, Vega, Dugan, Liggio and Velasquez This is yet another sad example of the way government should not work. Istead of turning its back on the corrupt Bobby Janisewski, Tom DeGise and his administration are doing their level best to not only continue in his foot steps but to reward one of Bobby J's favorite companies - HINDSIGHT. Maybe its the $28,000+ that Hindsight has reported to have contributed to the HCDO in 99' thru 02'? Don't look like pay-for-play is going toe end anytime soon in Hudson County. Oh! taxpayers of Hudson County, when you get a chance , please remit the $842,000 as soon as possible. : Hindsight is allegedly owned by Jeff Persilay, formerly chief of staff to ex-County Executive Bob Janizewski, who is now cooperating with a federal investigation of corruption. Hindsight has been a frequent and long-time contributor to various Hudson County Democratic Organization campaign funds and Political Action Committees. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JM posted Message 5644 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 12:56:19 Subject: CHECK OUT THIS PICTURE OF HEALY WASTED IN BRADLEY BEACH WWW.HEALYISADRUNK.COM ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5645 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 12:57:24 Subject: Re: Hidden Agenda COMPUTERCRAFT is one of dozens of Web Sites (and hundreds of domain names) that I own and manage. COMPUTERCRAFT posts information on the Web about computer repair, but is not a computer repair business. COMPUTERCRAFT as a community service and volunteer effort provides a Web Site for Hudson County Republicans. I've received no funding or other support from any Republican organizations. All (within the bounds of taste, legality, and focus) are welcome to advertise at GETNJ.com or one of my other commercial Sites. I turned down an request to advertise at one of my anti-McGreevey Web Sites. My opinion was that it would not be right to use an unfortunate situation for personal gain. I headlined that the Hindsight contract was coming before the Board of Freeholders, but someone else posted the message. That is what most often happens. The ideas and research are posted to this Message Board or are submitted to me by other means. I don't walk around town turning over rocks looking for crawley critters. Someone else finds it and sends it this way. Within the bounds of taste, legality and the focus of the Board, I don't stop anything from going up. If something catches my attention, I'll highlight it. At GETNJ.com you'll find more information on Congressman Menendez's record of success than anyplace else -- much that's not at his own Web Site. But, GETNJ.com doesn't hesitate to criticize the Bob Menendez. The Congressman's circle must have little faith in him, for they seem to think that anything but effusive praise will be fatal : I wonder if any of these stupid posts about the computer service used by the Hudson Couny Admin would have been even mentioned if COMPUTERCRAFT got the County Contract? : Why?, the same makers who bring you this website, who also hate Menendez also own ComputerCraft. Also their clients/webmasters of the Hudson County GOP site. : Gee why a surpise... think there is any bias going on here? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5646 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 12:57:34 Subject: Re: Hidden Agenda :You know if you dont like it move out : : I wonder if any of these stupid posts about the computer service used by the Hudson Couny Admin would have been even mentioned if COMPUTERCRAFT got the County Contract? : : Why?, the same makers who bring you this website, who also hate Menendez also own ComputerCraft. Also their clients/webmasters of the Hudson County GOP site. : : Gee why a surpise... think there is any bias going on here? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5647 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 13:06:13 Subject: Yeah, I meant to point that out. Yeah, I meant to point that out. JK goes on about Poreda and Paul Byrne, others say I'm a skunk, but nobody gives a good reason why an outfit from nowhere is getting paid top dollar. If you can prove that everyone saying that Hindsight is rotten are devil worshippers, what does that have to do with the argument on the table? You're saying that the critic is no good. That has nothing to do with the criticism. : Perhaps if Computer Craft had gotten the contract...there wouldn't be anything to complain about. Perhaps they would have actually worked for the money the county pays for tech support and service. But then again....that would be a bit novel in Hudson County. : : I wonder if any of these stupid posts about the computer service used by the Hudson Couny Admin would have been even mentioned if COMPUTERCRAFT got the County Contract? : : Why?, the same makers who bring you this website, who also hate Menendez also own ComputerCraft. Also their clients/webmasters of the Hudson County GOP site. : : Gee why a surpise... think there is any bias going on here? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 5648 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 13:16:03 Subject: Lipski to run Lipski to Run for Mayor LOL New Game show; Who wants to be Mayor ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5649 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 13:54:09 Subject: Hidden Agenda or World's worst kept secret! Here's a picture of my van. It certainly was pretty easy to figger out that COMPUTERCRAFT is my Web Site! : I wonder if any of these stupid posts about the computer service used by the Hudson Couny Admin would have been even mentioned if COMPUTERCRAFT got the County Contract? : Why?, the same makers who bring you this website, who also hate Menendez also own ComputerCraft. Also their clients/webmasters of the Hudson County GOP site. : Gee why a surpise... think there is any bias going on here? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BREAKING NEWS posted Message 5650 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 16:25:01 Subject: FLOOD DRPS OUT OF RACE Willie Flood has dropped out of the mayoral race for this upcoming November 2nd election. She stated she could not gather enough of support to make a serious run at the mayoral position. Wiliie Flood has suprising thrown her support to L. Harvey Smith. Flood has said she and Harvey have buried the hatchet and will unite to bring the city together with Glenn watching over and guiding us. This will be in the JJ on Sat 9/11. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Leading by example posted Message 5651 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 17:04:43 Subject: Re: FLOOD DROPS OUT OF RACE Willie did urge everyone to drop out of the race One thing you can always depend on...she leads by example. LOL : Willie Flood has dropped out of the mayoral race for this upcoming November 2nd election. She stated she could not gather enough of support to make a serious run at the mayoral position. : Wiliie Flood has suprising thrown her support to L. Harvey Smith. Flood has said she and Harvey have buried the hatchet and will unite to bring the city together with Glenn watching over and guiding us. This will be in the JJ on Sat 9/11. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5652 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 17:19:33 Subject: Re: FLOOD DROPS OUT OF RACE Poor Willie, what a good man it's a shame he dropped. We wish him well. : Willie did urge everyone to drop out of the race One thing you can always depend on...she leads by example. LOL : : Willie Flood has dropped out of the mayoral race for this upcoming November 2nd election. She stated she could not gather enough of support to make a serious run at the mayoral position. : : Wiliie Flood has suprising thrown her support to L. Harvey Smith. Flood has said she and Harvey have buried the hatchet and will unite to bring the city together with Glenn watching over and guiding us. This will be in the JJ on Sat 9/11. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO WILLIE IS A CHICK....... posted Message 5653 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 17:36:56 Subject: Re: FLOOD DROPS OUT OF RACE : Poor Willie, what a good man it's a shame he dropped. We wish him well. : : : Willie did urge everyone to drop out of the race One thing you can always depend on...she leads by example. LOL : : : Willie Flood has dropped out of the mayoral race for this upcoming November 2nd election. She stated she could not gather enough of support to make a serious run at the mayoral position. : : : Wiliie Flood has suprising thrown her support to L. Harvey Smith. Flood has said she and Harvey have buried the hatchet and will unite to bring the city together with Glenn watching over and guiding us. This will be in the JJ on Sat 9/11. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5654 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 17:47:48 Subject: COULDN'T GET 100 SIGNATURES if she dropped out it's because she's having a tough time getting 100 signatures... not to mention enough workers to circulate those petitions! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sharla posted Message 5655 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 17:56:12 Subject: Re: FLOOD DROPS OUT OF RACE It is true she dropped out, but she is not supporting Smith. She will be endorsing Buonocore. : : Poor Willie, what a good man it's a shame he dropped. We wish him well. : : : : : Willie did urge everyone to drop out of the race One thing you can always depend on...she leads by example. LOL : : : : Willie Flood has dropped out of the mayoral race for this upcoming November 2nd election. She stated she could not gather enough of support to make a serious run at the mayoral position. : : : : Wiliie Flood has suprising thrown her support to L. Harvey Smith. Flood has said she and Harvey have buried the hatchet and will unite to bring the city together with Glenn watching over and guiding us. This will be in the JJ on Sat 9/11. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Peter W posted Message 5656 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 19:02:44 Subject: John Minella to run for Mayor Rumors have it that John Minella will be announcing his canidacy for Mayor on Tues September 14 when he intends to hand in his 500 + petitions. It is said he is being put in the race by the Healy Camp to take votes away from Manzo. Minella has a strong presence in Ward A and will take alot of the workers that McCann has brought to the Manzo camp. We will see who will jump on board with Minella. Rumors have it that Ron Buonocore will not be filing for mayor after all, instead he will be supporting Minella. MORE TO COME.... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5657 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 22:40:27 Subject: I hope this .. "BREAKING NEWS" isn't from the same source that said Healy was dropping out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I will sever all friendly ties with her posted Message 5658 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 10, 2004 at 23:08:51 Subject: If she does support Smith ::::Harvey is a racist (yes racist). If she supports this person, the city will be divided like it probably hasn't been in 30 years or so. God help us all. : It is true she dropped out, but she is not supporting Smith. She will be endorsing Buonocore. : : : : Poor Willie, what a good man it's a shame he dropped. We wish him well. : : : : : : : Willie did urge everyone to drop out of the race One thing you can always depend on...she leads by example. LOL : : : : : Willie Flood has dropped out of the mayoral race for this upcoming November 2nd election. She stated she could not gather enough of support to make a serious run at the mayoral position. : : : : : Wiliie Flood has suprising thrown her support to L. Harvey Smith. Flood has said she and Harvey have buried the hatchet and will unite to bring the city together with Glenn watching over and guiding us. This will be in the JJ on Sat 9/11. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CENSORSHIP posted Message 5659 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 00:01:11 Subject: Re: Hidden Agenda or World's worst kept secret! Do you sell hot dogs out of the other side of the truck? I certainly hope so because your not making a living off your websites! I like the Bret Website on the top of the building, and yes, now we all know where you park your van so we can buy hot dogs from you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5660 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 05:50:04 Subject: That's pretty cute how you lie outta both sides of your mouth! Quite the chirpy little equine derryaire, aintcha'? You start off by proclaiming that the site is secretly funded. Proved a liar on that, ya' start cheep-cheep-cheepin' away that it's headin' for chapter 11. I got 11/15 circled on my calendar. As long as nature takes it's course then, after that I keep my attention focused close to home. In that ol' jawbone of an ass that is Hudson County, there are a few rotten molars that need to be pulled -- nothin' as bad as bein' under the control of foreign nationals, mind you, but rotten none the less. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where? posted Message 5661 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 07:03:47 Subject: Re: Lipski to run ::ROFLMAO : Lipski to Run for Mayor : LOL : New Game show; Who wants to be Mayor ***************** End Of Article ****************** Disgusted posted Message 5662 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 09:42:24 Subject: DOLAN IS AN ASS : : Poor Willie, what a good man it's a shame he dropped. We wish him well. : : : : : Willie did urge everyone to drop out of the race One thing you can always depend on...she leads by example. LOL : : : : Willie Flood has dropped out of the mayoral race for this upcoming November 2nd election. She stated she could not gather enough of support to make a serious run at the mayoral position. : : : : Wiliie Flood has suprising thrown her support to L. Harvey Smith. Flood has said she and Harvey have buried the hatchet and will unite to bring the city together with Glenn watching over and guiding us. This will be in the JJ on Sat 9/11. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Totally Disgusted posted Message 5663 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 09:44:11 Subject: DOLAN IS A TOTAL ASS : : Poor Willie, what a good man it's a shame he dropped. We wish him well. : : : : : Willie did urge everyone to drop out of the race One thing you can always depend on...she leads by example. LOL : : : : Willie Flood has dropped out of the mayoral race for this upcoming November 2nd election. She stated she could not gather enough of support to make a serious run at the mayoral position. : : : : Wiliie Flood has suprising thrown her support to L. Harvey Smith. Flood has said she and Harvey have buried the hatchet and will unite to bring the city together with Glenn watching over and guiding us. This will be in the JJ on Sat 9/11. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth Teller posted Message 5664 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 10:30:22 Subject: JAY DOLAN IS AN ASS DOLAN,.... GET A LIFE...AND A BRAIN ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5665 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 10:53:54 Subject: Re: Lipski to run You know he's some other Mayoral candidate's stooge to pull votes away from Ward C for one of th eother Candidate's. Yeah LMAO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CLAUDIA BERRIOS posted Message 5666 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 10:56:12 Subject: Re: Hidden Agenda Anthony, we all know what you are! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CLAUDIA BERRIOS posted Message 5667 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 10:57:15 Subject: Re: Hidden Agenda You are no Entrapenure, no big businessman. You are more like the hot dog salesman! ***************** End Of Article ****************** all together soon posted Message 5668 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 11:04:15 Subject: HCDO = THE MCGREEVEY TEAM! Hold another party in bayonne. u do deserve one each other ***************** End Of Article ****************** UberHooley posted Message 5669 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 11:50:09 Subject: Re: Hidden Agenda ANTHONY, I WOULD LIKE MINE WITH MUSTARD AND A LITTLE RELISH! ***************** End Of Article ****************** bled dry posted Message 5670 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 12:32:11 Subject: JC council with county jobs I saw a list of jersey city council and family with the county jobs. Does anybody have a copy of that? ***************** End Of Article ****************** gravy train posted Message 5671 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 13:11:28 Subject: Re: JC council with county jobs : I saw a list of jersey city council and family with the county jobs. Does anybody have a copy of that? 20. There are presently at least three councilmen that have significant County level jobs. It is known that at least one other councilperson has close family members who have County level jobs. The President of the Council was just recommended by the defendant for a high level County position. For all such councilmen, the continuation of such jobs can be greatly influenced, either positively or negatively, by the office of the Chief of Staff. 21. As part of his statutory/regulatory duties, the Chief of Staff is required to interview and recommend appointees to the County Executive. (Exhibit A Section 3.7.1(c)). In November of 2003, he was required to make recommendations to the County Executive for appointments to various positions at the County departments and commissions. This included making job recommendations for fellow members of the Council. 22. Councilman Mariano Vega holds a job as the Director of Hudson County Public Resources Department. The salary for that job is approximately $90,000.00. 23. Councilman Junior Maldonado has a job at the Hudson County Improvement Authority. That job has a salary of approximately $80,000.00 per year. 24. Councilman Peter Brennan has a $65,000.00 job in the Hudson County Maintenance Department. 25. Councilwoman Donnelly's daughter-in-law is employed by Hudson County. 26. In January of 2004, the defendant just recommended Council President Smith to the job as Hudson County Under-Sheriff. Council President Smith has no known law enforcement experience. 27. As the result of the position of power Councilman Gaughan now holds as Chief of Staff to the Hudson County Executive, he has created additional incompatibility, as there is now the appearance that the defendant may be able to exercise influence over fellow councilmen/councilwomen, as he is their actual or de facto, "boss" at their principal places of employment. 28. Such a position of power within the City Council is harmful to the citizens of Jersey City. Citizens should expect that their elected representatives can freely debate and vote upon issues, without the fear of influence or retribution from another councilmember. One councilmember should not be permitted to promote his own political or personal agenda as a result of his holding a superior office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** surprised posted Message 5672 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 13:41:13 Subject: Re: JC council with county jobs : : I saw a list of jersey city council and family with the county jobs. Does anybody have a copy of that? : 20. There are presently at least three councilmen that have significant County level : jobs. It is known that at least one other councilperson has close family members who have : County level jobs. The President of the Council was just recommended by the defendant for a : high level County position. For all such councilmen, the continuation of such jobs can be greatly : influenced, either positively or negatively, by the office of the Chief of Staff. : 21. As part of his statutory/regulatory duties, the Chief of Staff is required to : interview and recommend appointees to the County Executive. (Exhibit A Section 3.7.1(c)). In : November of 2003, he was required to make recommendations to the County Executive for : appointments to various positions at the County departments and commissions. This included : making job recommendations for fellow members of the Council. : 22. Councilman Mariano Vega holds a job as the Director of Hudson County Public : Resources Department. The salary for that job is approximately $90,000.00. : 23. Councilman Junior Maldonado has a job at the Hudson County Improvement : Authority. That job has a salary of approximately $80,000.00 per year. : 24. Councilman Peter Brennan has a $65,000.00 job in the Hudson County : Maintenance Department. : 25. Councilwoman Donnelly's daughter-in-law is employed by Hudson County. : 26. In January of 2004, the defendant just recommended Council President Smith to : the job as Hudson County Under-Sheriff. Council President Smith has no known law : enforcement experience. : 27. As the result of the position of power Councilman Gaughan now holds as Chief of : Staff to the Hudson County Executive, he has created additional incompatibility, as there is now : the appearance that the defendant may be able to exercise influence over fellow : councilmen/councilwomen, as he is their actual or de facto, "boss" at their principal places of : employment. : 28. Such a position of power within the City Council is harmful to the citizens of : Jersey City. Citizens should expect that their elected representatives can freely debate and vote : upon issues, without the fear of influence or retribution from another councilmember. One : councilmember should not be permitted to promote his own political or personal agenda as a : result of his holding a superior office. :::::can anyone tell me how to reach gaughan's paid aide, his daughter Bridgette? Phone number, office address, hours of availability? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5673 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 13:43:58 Subject: Steve Lipski Intends to Run For Mayor Councilman Steve Lipski intends to run for Mayor of Jersey City. Councilman Lipski points out that he is the only candidate with experience in every Ward. He's been a resident of Wards D, E, B, and C. The Charter School that he runs was originally located in Ward F and now is in Ward A. Those wishing to support Councilman Lipski's effort can call him at 201-610-1009 or can go to his Summit Avenue club (just across the street from the Dunkin' Dounuts in back of the Square). ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Spirit of McKenna's Bar posted Message 5674 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 13:48:00 Subject: If you need help, here's a tip. : can anyone tell me how to reach gaughan's paid aide, his daughter Bridgette? Phone number, office address, hours of availability? Go and light a candle at St. Nick's. You got a better chance with that. : : : I saw a list of jersey city council and family with the county jobs. Does anybody have a copy of that? : : 20. There are presently at least three councilmen that have significant County level : : jobs. It is known that at least one other councilperson has close family members who have : : County level jobs. The President of the Council was just recommended by the defendant for a : : high level County position. For all such councilmen, the continuation of such jobs can be greatly : : influenced, either positively or negatively, by the office of the Chief of Staff. : : 21. As part of his statutory/regulatory duties, the Chief of Staff is required to : : interview and recommend appointees to the County Executive. (Exhibit A Section 3.7.1(c)). In : : November of 2003, he was required to make recommendations to the County Executive for : : appointments to various positions at the County departments and commissions. This included : : making job recommendations for fellow members of the Council. : : 22. Councilman Mariano Vega holds a job as the Director of Hudson County Public : : Resources Department. The salary for that job is approximately $90,000.00. : : 23. Councilman Junior Maldonado has a job at the Hudson County Improvement : : Authority. That job has a salary of approximately $80,000.00 per year. : : 24. Councilman Peter Brennan has a $65,000.00 job in the Hudson County : : Maintenance Department. : : 25. Councilwoman Donnelly's daughter-in-law is employed by Hudson County. : : 26. In January of 2004, the defendant just recommended Council President Smith to : : the job as Hudson County Under-Sheriff. Council President Smith has no known law : : enforcement experience. : : 27. As the result of the position of power Councilman Gaughan now holds as Chief of : : Staff to the Hudson County Executive, he has created additional incompatibility, as there is now : : the appearance that the defendant may be able to exercise influence over fellow : : councilmen/councilwomen, as he is their actual or de facto, "boss" at their principal places of : : employment. : : 28. Such a position of power within the City Council is harmful to the citizens of : : Jersey City. Citizens should expect that their elected representatives can freely debate and vote : : upon issues, without the fear of influence or retribution from another councilmember. One : : councilmember should not be permitted to promote his own political or personal agenda as a : : result of his holding a superior office. : :::::can anyone tell me how to reach gaughan's paid aide, his daughter Bridgette? Phone number, office address, hours of availability? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Felon Watch posted Message 5675 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 14:13:27 Subject: Re: Steve Lipski Intends to Run For Mayor Can a convicted Felon hold the Mayor's Office? I thought that's why McCann can't be Mayor again. So how can Lipski hold the Mayor's Office with his record as a convicted Felon? : Councilman Steve Lipski intends to run for Mayor of Jersey City. : Councilman Lipski points out that he is the only candidate with experience in every Ward. He's been a resident of Wards D, E, B, and C. The Charter School that he runs was originally located in Ward F and now is in Ward A. : Those wishing to support Councilman Lipski's effort can call him at 201-610-1009 or can go to his Summit Avenue club (just across the street from the Dunkin' Dounuts in back of the Square). ***************** End Of Article ****************** It was Kennelly posted Message 5676 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 14:18:03 Subject: He's BOUGHT AND PAID FOR : I'd be curious to know if the post below, purportedly from Jim Kennelly, is really from him. : If it is, it was a rather hysterical and ill-conceived defense of a company, Hindsight, which has done a poor job in County government for years while remaining, on the whole, totally unaccountable. : Don't get me wrong. I'm no Poreda supporter. But as someone who has observed the performance of Mr. Delaney's company for years, I believe it is highly disingenuous for Mr. Kennelly to defend Hindsight as best qualified to receive the County contract. : Any survey of County staff will reveal that most are totally dissatisfied with the computer support and services Hindsight provides. As for the "old telcom" structure that the County uses; Hindsight has had over 15 years to address this issue and has done little or nothing. : Hindsight is a small and undistinguised firm from Central New Jersey, with an owner who has learned to use the Hudson County political system very well. Mr. Delaney has spent years schmoozing County pols, from Janiszewski to Perselay to Antun to Menendez. He has contributed thousands of dollars to make sure his contract remained in place. : Mr. Kennelly, if you did indeed post the comments below, please don't insult our intelligence by maintaining there was no favoritism in this contract process. "Competitive contracting" can easily be manipulated to favor a preferred vendor. I am sure Mr. Antun and his minions greased the skids for Hindsight to win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Guess Whats New and Different? posted Message 5677 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 15:21:47 Subject: What did the investigative machine find on the Donald? Imagine if you will an unhappy developer who was left out on the Xanadu deal. Now this unhappy developer might have used large sums of cash to get to the truth as to why he was left out. In going after the reason they uncover a story about a Govenor and a Congressman. So while the story has been told the undoing of both the Govenor and Congressman can be traced back to who was left out of the process of Xanadu. Unhappy is now hoping to see the Mack/Cali alliance turn and run or something else will show up in the press. I think speculation on what might appear is worthy of discussion. I suggest that the person the Congressman and the Govenor work for (not the public) might be the real target unless he can deliver the Xanadu deal on a plate. It just so happens that the person the Gov and the Congressman really work for is a lawyer a very powerful lawyer. In either case this very powerful lawyer makes out like a bandit as far as money goes so it does not matter who gets undone in this scenario. The Congressman might have been undone as part of a process of re-awarding the Xanadu trophy to another group of developers rich ones with significant real estate in New Jersey and New York. So this private war has been waged and won by the Developer left out and his information is significant enough to have the Congressman turned on his ear as well as the Govenor. I wonder what will happen to this information will it keep the developer safe from those he now blackmails or will it end him? Keep tuned to this channel for more updates on the Developer Left Out, the Very Powerful Attorney and the outcome of Xanadu. Donald = Very Powerful Attorney Manny the Nut Case = Unhappy McGreevey = Govenor Menedude = Congressman What did the investigative machine find on the Donald? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Public School Teacher posted Message 5678 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 16:24:08 Subject: Re: Steve Lipski Intends to Run For Mayor Do you think Lipski's past record of molestation will come to light? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soothsayer posted Message 5679 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 16:50:27 Subject: Re: Steve Lipski Intends to Run For Mayor Just because you have carpet bagged from one ward to the next, or you stayed over night in that ward, does not make one uniquely qualified, nor should be the driving reason behind his decision. Sad sad day when Lipski thinks he wants to be mayor. The real reason is he wants to draw votes away from other candidates in Ward C. Lipski has made a deal. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5680 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 17:10:54 Subject: No runoff guys Remember guys that there's no runoff in the special election. There ain't no silver medal in this race. Also, as it's winner takes all, the runner-ups got nothing to trade off to No. 1 and No. 2. Sure some candidates could be running as vote-magnets. But, I'd like someone to explain how any of these candidates are being used as scalpels. Seems to me that most are drawing votes pretty much evenly. Has anybody seen Ward by Ward polls that show differently : The real reason is he wants to draw votes away from other candidates in Ward C. : Lipski has made a deal. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5681 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 18:09:45 Subject: Flipski. Lipski is an alcoholic egomaniac who sold himself to Cunningham and the UTN Gang. No one can trust him, no one will vote for him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uberhooley posted Message 5682 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 19:08:06 Subject: Uberhippy AKA Clueless Thanks for the little political lesson. Guess you haven't figured it out yet. Lipski makes a deal with the candidate he believes will win in Nov, thus same candidate runs and wins in May. Lipski pulls votes away from one or two candidate who are seen as strong in Ward C, thus not giving the candidate in the lead in Ward C as strong a base and not over the top. Look at the numbers from 2001, DeGise and Cunningham were nip and tuck in most wards until it got to Ward F where Cunningham blew it open. (no there no McGreevey reference here :)-). Some campaign may think that's a similar strategy, to siphion off enough votes. It's not about Lipski winning, it's a diversion. Lipski aka "The Worm", helps the candidate he went to bat for, gets on their May ticket, possibly if the ticket wins control Council President, maybe a better job for his wife. Do you see now Mr Clueless? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5683 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 20:08:31 Subject: Specifics please Lipski might do this. Steve might do that. This one might be working with this him. The Ward C Councilman might grow wings and fly up alongside St. George and the Dragon! You got your suspicions, be specific. Exactly what other candidate do you think Steve Lipski is in cahoots with? From what other candidate(s) do you think Lipski will draw votes while at the same time not hurting the supposed secret partner? Sure, spoilers get deployed in political races. There was a special on PBS a month or so ago on how Joe Kennedy pushed for JFK. Seems that in the Congressional race there was an Italian candidate. As luck would have it, out of the blue someone with a very similar name threw their hat in the ring and split the vote. This worked because their was an Italian electorate in Boston. A block of votes was divided. : Thanks for the little political lesson. : Guess you haven't figured it out yet. : Lipski makes a deal with the candidate he believes will win in Nov, thus same candidate runs and wins in May. : Lipski pulls votes away from one or two candidate who are seen as strong in Ward C, thus not giving the candidate in the lead in Ward C as strong a base and not over the top. : Look at the numbers from 2001, DeGise and Cunningham were nip and tuck in most wards until it got to Ward F where Cunningham blew it open. (no there no McGreevey reference here :)-). Some campaign may think that's a similar strategy, to siphion off enough votes. It's not about Lipski winning, it's a diversion. : Lipski aka "The Worm", helps the candidate he went to bat for, gets on their May ticket, possibly if the ticket wins control Council President, maybe a better job for his wife. : Do you see now Mr Clueless? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5684 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 20:39:20 Subject: Maybe because the season is changing? The leaves are starting the fall -- and the Healy signs along with them! Up in the Heights here, about two weeks ago Healy signs got plastered on a bunch of houses. One after another, I see people pitching them in the garbage. Anybody have any idea what gives? And this isn't vandalism -- as in the case of the Manzo signs. The homeowners are taking the signs down themselves and putting them in the trash. I only saw one that was defaced by a magic marker "X." As it was kept up in that sorry state for a week, my assumption was that the damage was intentionally inflicted by the person living there. I only know a little about a single case. Seems that the twerp agreed to put the sign up in exchange for like a little favor. . . (To all concerned, remember, as we've been told, God works in strange ways (Gov. James E. uses the word "mysterious.")) After a little bit, the slink dumped the yellow sign. This might be the first case of a resident breaking a campaign promise made to a politician! Manzo signs are holding their own after the little wave of spite. A few Smith and Carroll signs are out and about. I can't remember seeing any for the other hopefuls. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JACCK O CONNER posted Message 5685 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 11, 2004 at 23:13:52 Subject: Re: Maybe because the season is changing? I BET YOU ARE A MANZO SUPPORTER. NO SIGNS DOWN IN HEIGHTS OR SLOPE ONLY ILLEGAL ONES HUNG BY LOONEY LOUIES CONVICTS. GO JERRY!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uberhooley posted Message 5686 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 00:01:37 Subject: Re: Specifics please I'd rather see St George fight the dragon then see Lipski throw his hat in the ring. Might give Ward C something really to talk about. Perhaps one of the networks could do a reality show on Lipski's run, it might get ratings, but I assure you it would get a lot of laughs! Why should I give specifics to a guy who posts under a ficitious name and wants facts? A guy who pretents to be fair and balanced? Time will tell you that what I have said is the truth. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joseph Vavrecan posted Message 5687 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 00:15:56 Subject: Uberhippy is Captain Cueless. Uberhippy, The more I read your posts, the more I understand how clueless you really are. You have an agenda, your hatred for certain politicians is painfully obvious. This website is here to fulfil you little pleasures. Now changing the rules in the middle of the game? New rules on posting. Getting a little too hot? Let's eee who long you leave this post up. Censorship? Bias, or maybe a little too close to home? You have no problem posting public info on others, now let's see how long you keep the public information about you out there. All's fair in love and war! I really do enjoy reading how naive you are, please keep me laughing. Your website may not be the only game in town very soon! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 5688 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 01:31:01 Subject: Re: Flipski. Yes, But what about the Molestation? Note to Uberboy: Nothing about whether he was molested or he molested someone. There.. get your Constuitional Laws book and look that one up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Back Widow posted Message 5689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 08:49:44 Subject: Xanandu +Menendez=A Big fat money belt Menendez didnt gain a lot of weight.Thats all monet from Xanadu deals.We the taxpayers are paying for a study for light rail from Hudson County to Xanadu.Why?. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Real Deal posted Message 5690 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 09:26:57 Subject: Sign of the Times Uber ... you are supposed to be an old hand at this "game" of politics. It amazes me that you make such an issue about signage since everyone knows that signs mean almost nothing in this town. I can't remember how many times I've heard the old saying in one campaign headquarters or another that: "SIGNS DON'T VOTE...PEOPLE VOTE" If you recall...when Schundler ran against Manzo.... despite the fact that Schundler had a good deal of signage around town, Manzo papered the city like a paper-hanger on a caffeine high. It didn't wins him even one ward. So let's wait and see who actually has a GOTV effort organized...then we can start predicting who will be the next occupant of the corner office at 280 Grove. : The leaves are starting the fall -- and the Healy signs along with them! : Up in the Heights here, about two weeks ago Healy signs got plastered on a bunch of houses. One after another, I see people pitching them in the garbage. Anybody have any idea what gives? : And this isn't vandalism -- as in the case of the Manzo signs. The homeowners are taking the signs down themselves and putting them in the trash. I only saw one that was defaced by a magic markered "X." As it was kept up in that sorry state for a week, my assumption is that the damage is intentionally inflicted by the person living there. : I only know a little about a single case. Seems that the twerp agreed to put the sign up in exchange for like a little favor. . . (To all concerned, remember, as we've been told, God works in strange ways (Gov. James E. uses the word "mysterious.")) After a little bit, the slink dumped the yellow sign. This might be the first case of a voter breaking a campaign promise made to a politician! : Manzo signs are holding their own after the little wave of spite. A few Smith and Carroll signs are out and about. I can't remember seeing any for the other hopefuls. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5691 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 10:06:48 Subject: Oh please Sir, don't let anybody know! Oh, please Sir, don't let anybody know that a regular visitor to my father's bar was the mob associate who assaulted Helene Stapinski’s grandfather, Beansie. The author identified the organized crime figure as Joe Wyckoff; we-all knew him by the name of Joe Weisskopf. Foe you nostalgia fans out there, the Downtown Jersey City restaurant where the fight took place now is the location of Santana’s Hard Grove. Maybe like Domenic can get Historic Preservation to put up a plaque outside the eatery or something. Oh, please Sir, don't let anybody know that my uncle was the one who lent Martin “Motts” Casella $5,000 to buy the bar at First and Jackson in Hoboken. Motts was at the time my uncle’s top numbers runner. Marty soon thereafter aligned himself with Brooklyn interests. My uncle remained friendly with Martin Casella, which years later proved useful. In the 70s, a Greenville resident stole at gunpoint $30,000 from my uncle. Presumably, the individual in question pondered the action and saw the odds in his favor. What was my uncle going to do, go to the police and have to explain the source of the money? It would also seem unlikely that a Caucasian in his mid-fifties was going to go to an apartment house in Greenville and start banging on doors in search of an armed assailant. What the would-be Urban Jesse James didn’t consider was my uncle phoning Martin Casella. Before the day was out, my uncle regained possession of $29,998.75. (Seems the guy had stopped to buy a cup of coffee and a pack of cigarettes.) Oh please Sir, don’t let anybody know that a regular customer in my father’s tavern was a friend of Harold “Kayo” Konigsberg. The bar patron related how he was the one who actually removed the body from Congressman Gallagher’s house. The Congressman had requested assistance from Konigsberg. Kayo though nervy in most ways was frightened by thought of carrying a body out of the home of a prominent Bayonne resident with all the nice little old ladies up and down the block watching from behind the blinds. So, Kayo called for help. The guy, who we shall call Hal, after a little negotiating (Very one-sided, given the circumstances, the Congressman and Konigsberg just promised Hal whatever he wanted.) just wrapped the body up in a rug and hauled it out the door to his car. Oh please Sir, don’t let anybody know that my father and his two brothers were mentioned in the Kefauver crime hearings. In that era, it was like getting nominated for an Academy Award! Oh please Sir, don’t let anybody know that Tony Provenzano once asked my father to work for him. Oh please Sir, don’t let anybody know that back in the 60s my cousin George tried to crack the safe at City Hall in Jersey City. He also attempted to hold up a bank on Central Avenue. Both capers were such fiascos that slap stick comedy was the result. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Beyer posted Message 5692 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 10:22:34 Subject: The World According to Uberboy Nice Jersey City fairy tales and barroom banter, entertaining in the least. Why don't yo go write a book on what a bunch of heroes your family was to Jersey City. Again that's for the history lesson, "The World According to Uberboy". Seems you have issues.. issues you can't live up to your families fame and fortune.... issues that gnaw away at you and are very deep seated. Perhaps seek professional help to overcome these issues. Even if those stories were true, it goes to show all of us what a class act your family was. Now please stop scaring us with your fairy tales and name asscoaitions from the 60's (about people JC cares very little about and only amusing to some) and go write a book and seek that fame and fortune you seem to crave. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5693 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 10:25:52 Subject: there's the corrolary of the theorem: You're certainly correct about that. And of course there's the corrolary of the theorem: If signs voted, Wally Sheil might still be Mayor! Fights for signs on poles I figger to be a general waste of time, money, and manpower. All I think that a sign on a pole signifies to Joe or Jane citizen is that an election is approaching. My opinion is that signs in a neighborhood can have some effect. If the people putting up the signs are City or County workers, the neighbors just figger that's how the wind is blowing at either Grove Street or Newark Avenue. But, if the individual is someone respected on the block, I think that a sign will influence people. Generally, I mention signs a lot here just because it's something objective. The signs either are there or they ain't there. The signs are in some particular place: on a pole, at a business address, or on someone's house. The sign is in one piece or it's vandalized. When I point out some instance, people can comment on the meaning, but not on whether the observation is true. The Healy pull-down is another story. I only speak about politics to a couple of neighbors. One has a Manzo sign (a relative is a Manzo supporter) the other has no sign (hasn't made up his mind). I can only guess why the Healy signs are getting the heave-ho. Really, it's starting to look like the day after the election with Manzo having won! The Manzo signs are sticking and the Healy signs are falling! By the way, I'm not working for Manzo. So, don't try to play that for an angle! : Uber ... you are supposed to be an old hand at this "game" of politics. It amazes me that you make such an issue about signage since everyone knows that signs mean almost nothing in this town. I can't remember how many times I've heard the old saying in one campaign headquarters or another that: : "SIGNS DON'T VOTE...PEOPLE VOTE" : If you recall...when Schundler ran against Manzo.... despite the fact that Schundler had a good deal of signage around town, Manzo papered the city like a paper-hanger on a caffeine high. It didn't wins him even one ward. So let's wait and see who actually has a GOTV effort organized...then we can start predicting who will be the next occupant of the corner office at 280 Grove. : : : The leaves are starting the fall -- and the Healy signs along with them! : : Up in the Heights here, about two weeks ago Healy signs got plastered on a bunch of houses. One after another, I see people pitching them in the garbage. Anybody have any idea what gives? : : And this isn't vandalism -- as in the case of the Manzo signs. The homeowners are taking the signs down themselves and putting them in the trash. I only saw one that was defaced by a magic markered "X." As it was kept up in that sorry state for a week, my assumption is that the damage is intentionally inflicted by the person living there. : : I only know a little about a single case. Seems that the twerp agreed to put the sign up in exchange for like a little favor. . . (To all concerned, remember, as we've been told, God works in strange ways (Gov. James E. uses the word "mysterious.")) After a little bit, the slink dumped the yellow sign. This might be the first case of a voter breaking a campaign promise made to a politician! : : Manzo signs are holding their own after the little wave of spite. A few Smith and Carroll signs are out and about. I can't remember seeing any for the other hopefuls. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uberhippy posted Message 5694 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 10:31:18 Subject: What do you think about Second Thief, Best Thief for a title? : Nice Jersey City fairy tales and barroom banter, entertaining in the least. Why don't yo go write a book on what a bunch of heroes your family was to Jersey City. Again that's for the history lesson, "The World According to Uberboy". What do you think about Second Thief, Best Thief for a title? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Real Deal posted Message 5695 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 14:19:47 Subject: Re: there's the corrolary of the theorem: I'm not gonna try to play any angle about who you support or don't. That's for you to wrangle with. But about the sign issue....the only ones I ever took seriously as a "sign" of support for a candidate, were the ones placed inside a window, or attached to the outside of a building (obviously with the owners permission). Those show that the people living or working there actually support someone....not that some over zealous campaign worker came along and nailed one to their property. And isn't it time the council passed an ordinace against VERTICLE bumper stickers that wind up plastered all over the light poles? If you take the time, you can still find stickers for Wally and Marilyn, and others stuck high up on poles in obscure parts of town. After that carnival with 19 caidndates some years ago.... it took the Public Works guys months to clean up the mess. : You're certainly correct about that. And of course there's the corrolary of the theorem: : If signs voted, Wally Sheil might still be Mayor! : Fights for signs on poles I figger to be a general waste of time, money, and manpower. All I think that a sign on a pole signifies to Joe or Jane citizen is that an election is approaching. : My opinion is that signs in a neighborhood can have some effect. If the people putting up the signs are City or County workers, the neighbors just figger that's how the wind is blowing at either Grove Street or Newark Avenue. But, if the individual is someone respected on the block, I think that a sign will influence people. : Generally, I mention signs a lot here just because it's something objective. The signs either are there or they ain't there. The signs are in some particular place: on a pole, at a business address, or on someone's house. The sign is in one piece or it's vandalized. When I point out some instance, people can comment on the meaning, but not on whether the observation is true. : The Healy pull-down is another story. I only speak about politics to a couple of neighbors. One has a Manzo sign (a relative is a Manzo supporter) the other has no sign (hasn't made up his mind). I can only guess why the Healy signs are getting the heave-ho. Really, it's starting to look like the day after the election with Manzo having won! The Manzo signs are sticking and the Healy signs are falling! : By the way, I'm not working for Manzo. So, don't try to play that for an angle! : : : Uber ... you are supposed to be an old hand at this "game" of politics. It amazes me that you make such an issue about signage since everyone knows that signs mean almost nothing in this town. I can't remember how many times I've heard the old saying in one campaign headquarters or another that: : : "SIGNS DON'T VOTE...PEOPLE VOTE" : : If you recall...when Schundler ran against Manzo.... despite the fact that Schundler had a good deal of signage around town, Manzo papered the city like a paper-hanger on a caffeine high. It didn't wins him even one ward. So let's wait and see who actually has a GOTV effort organized...then we can start predicting who will be the next occupant of the corner office at 280 Grove. : : : : : The leaves are starting the fall -- and the Healy signs along with them! : : : Up in the Heights here, about two weeks ago Healy signs got plastered on a bunch of houses. One after another, I see people pitching them in the garbage. Anybody have any idea what gives? : : : And this isn't vandalism -- as in the case of the Manzo signs. The homeowners are taking the signs down themselves and putting them in the trash. I only saw one that was defaced by a magic markered "X." As it was kept up in that sorry state for a week, my assumption is that the damage is intentionally inflicted by the person living there. : : : I only know a little about a single case. Seems that the twerp agreed to put the sign up in exchange for like a little favor. . . (To all concerned, remember, as we've been told, God works in strange ways (Gov. James E. uses the word "mysterious.")) After a little bit, the slink dumped the yellow sign. This might be the first case of a voter breaking a campaign promise made to a politician! : : : Manzo signs are holding their own after the little wave of spite. A few Smith and Carroll signs are out and about. I can't remember seeing any for the other hopefuls. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5696 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 14:49:10 Subject: Re: there's the corrolary of the theorem: That's pretty much what I'm saying. But, not only must the sign be a true expression of support, for it to have any influence, I tend to think that the neighbors need to have some measure of respect for whoever is hosting the sign. Down by the main post office in Jersey City you can still see a sticker for Dave Friedland! A few blocks up on York Street there's one for Charles Catrillo. It's against the law now to put signs up on poles. Honestly, I want the police to keep their attention focused on murder, rape, robbery, burglary, etc.! : I'm not gonna try to play any angle about who you support or don't. That's for you to wrangle with. But about the sign issue....the only ones I ever took seriously as a "sign" of support for a candidate, were the ones placed inside a window, or attached to the outside of a building (obviously with the owners permission). Those show that the people living or working there actually support someone....not that some over zealous campaign worker came along and nailed one to their property. And isn't it time the council passed an ordinace against VERTICLE bumper stickers that wind up plastered all over the light poles? If you take the time, you can still find stickers for Wally and Marilyn, and others stuck high up on poles in obscure parts of town. After that carnival with 19 caidndates some years ago.... it took the Public Works guys months to clean up the mess. : : You're certainly correct about that. And of course there's the corrolary of the theorem: : : If signs voted, Wally Sheil might still be Mayor! : : Fights for signs on poles I figger to be a general waste of time, money, and manpower. All I think that a sign on a pole signifies to Joe or Jane citizen is that an election is approaching. : : My opinion is that signs in a neighborhood can have some effect. If the people putting up the signs are City or County workers, the neighbors just figger that's how the wind is blowing at either Grove Street or Newark Avenue. But, if the individual is someone respected on the block, I think that a sign will influence people. : : Generally, I mention signs a lot here just because it's something objective. The signs either are there or they ain't there. The signs are in some particular place: on a pole, at a business address, or on someone's house. The sign is in one piece or it's vandalized. When I point out some instance, people can comment on the meaning, but not on whether the observation is true. : : The Healy pull-down is another story. I only speak about politics to a couple of neighbors. One has a Manzo sign (a relative is a Manzo supporter) the other has no sign (hasn't made up his mind). I can only guess why the Healy signs are getting the heave-ho. Really, it's starting to look like the day after the election with Manzo having won! The Manzo signs are sticking and the Healy signs are falling! : : By the way, I'm not working for Manzo. So, don't try to play that for an angle! : : : : : Uber ... you are supposed to be an old hand at this "game" of politics. It amazes me that you make such an issue about signage since everyone knows that signs mean almost nothing in this town. I can't remember how many times I've heard the old saying in one campaign headquarters or another that: : : : "SIGNS DON'T VOTE...PEOPLE VOTE" : : : If you recall...when Schundler ran against Manzo.... despite the fact that Schundler had a good deal of signage around town, Manzo papered the city like a paper-hanger on a caffeine high. It didn't wins him even one ward. So let's wait and see who actually has a GOTV effort organized...then we can start predicting who will be the next occupant of the corner office at 280 Grove. : : : : : : : The leaves are starting the fall -- and the Healy signs along with them! : : : : Up in the Heights here, about two weeks ago Healy signs got plastered on a bunch of houses. One after another, I see people pitching them in the garbage. Anybody have any idea what gives? : : : : And this isn't vandalism -- as in the case of the Manzo signs. The homeowners are taking the signs down themselves and putting them in the trash. I only saw one that was defaced by a magic markered "X." As it was kept up in that sorry state for a week, my assumption is that the damage is intentionally inflicted by the person living there. : : : : I only know a little about a single case. Seems that the twerp agreed to put the sign up in exchange for like a little favor. . . (To all concerned, remember, as we've been told, God works in strange ways (Gov. James E. uses the word "mysterious.")) After a little bit, the slink dumped the yellow sign. This might be the first case of a voter breaking a campaign promise made to a politician! : : : : Manzo signs are holding their own after the little wave of spite. A few Smith and Carroll signs are out and about. I can't remember seeing any for the other hopefuls. ***************** End Of Article ****************** This is a bunch of horse $hit posted Message 5697 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 17:21:18 Subject: You CAN NOT ANONYMOUSLY ACCUSE SOMEONE OF A CRIME! You CAN NOT ANONYMOUSLY ACCUSE SOMEONE OF A CRIME! Either: Give me your statement in writing and sign it. Then, you can post the message USING YOUR REAL NAME! or Provide documentation in the form of newspaper articles and/or public records. AFTER THAT, you can post the story without using your name. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 5698 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 17:23:40 Subject: Come on! Uber.. What is your point? You talk about signs, then admit the story about Wally Sheils?. It appeared in the beginning you were trying to guage how the election is going, by camapign effort as well as voter receptiveness. by the number of signs up in a specific neigborhood?! Please keep doing that. For the record Wally Sheils was never mayor, so saying "Still be" is not correct. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 5699 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 17:26:47 Subject: Re: What do you think about Second Thief, Best Thief for a title? Seriously, I do think you got a bunch of great Jersey City Political stories linked throughout these sites that should be published in a book. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5700 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 17:40:22 Subject: If signs voted, Wally Sheil might still be Mayor! : Uber.. What is your point? You talk about signs, then admit the story about Wally Sheils?. . . . : For the record Wally Sheils was never mayor, so saying "Still be" is not correct. On a number of occasions, I've heard people casually make this remark: If signs voted, Wally Sheil might still be Mayor! Yes, Sheil lost and McCann was elected. The meaning of the saying is that if the large number of signs that Wally Sheil's people installed were worth the effort, then Sheil would have been elected and re-elected. As this did not happen, the statement is meant to be absurd. The moral of the little tale is that after a certain point campaign signs are a waste of time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Real Deal posted Message 5701 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 18:53:00 Subject: Re: there's the corrolary of the theorem: Maybe every four years...of in our case every few months... we should have a crew from Pub Works just to do sign patrol and empower them to hand out tickets to the offending campaigns when stickers are put on poles. And I don't mean tickets to fundraisers...which are plentiful this time of year...lol. : That's pretty much what I'm saying. But, not only must the sign be a true expression of support, for it to have any influence, I tend to think that the neighbors need to have some measure of respect for whoever is hosting the sign. : Down by the main post office in Jersey City you can still see a sticker for Dave Friedland! A few blocks up on York Street there's one for Charles Catrillo. : It's against the law now to put signs up on poles. Honestly, I want the police to keep their attention focused on murder, rape, robbery, burglary, etc.! : : I'm not gonna try to play any angle about who you support or don't. That's for you to wrangle with. But about the sign issue....the only ones I ever took seriously as a "sign" of support for a candidate, were the ones placed inside a window, or attached to the outside of a building (obviously with the owners permission). Those show that the people living or working there actually support someone....not that some over zealous campaign worker came along and nailed one to their property. And isn't it time the council passed an ordinace against VERTICLE bumper stickers that wind up plastered all over the light poles? If you take the time, you can still find stickers for Wally and Marilyn, and others stuck high up on poles in obscure parts of town. After that carnival with 19 caidndates some years ago.... it took the Public Works guys months to clean up the mess. : : : You're certainly correct about that. And of course there's the corrolary of the theorem: : : : If signs voted, Wally Sheil might still be Mayor! : : : Fights for signs on poles I figger to be a general waste of time, money, and manpower. All I think that a sign on a pole signifies to Joe or Jane citizen is that an election is approaching. : : : My opinion is that signs in a neighborhood can have some effect. If the people putting up the signs are City or County workers, the neighbors just figger that's how the wind is blowing at either Grove Street or Newark Avenue. But, if the individual is someone respected on the block, I think that a sign will influence people. : : : Generally, I mention signs a lot here just because it's something objective. The signs either are there or they ain't there. The signs are in some particular place: on a pole, at a business address, or on someone's house. The sign is in one piece or it's vandalized. When I point out some instance, people can comment on the meaning, but not on whether the observation is true. : : : The Healy pull-down is another story. I only speak about politics to a couple of neighbors. One has a Manzo sign (a relative is a Manzo supporter) the other has no sign (hasn't made up his mind). I can only guess why the Healy signs are getting the heave-ho. Really, it's starting to look like the day after the election with Manzo having won! The Manzo signs are sticking and the Healy signs are falling! : : : By the way, I'm not working for Manzo. So, don't try to play that for an angle! : : : : : : : Uber ... you are supposed to be an old hand at this "game" of politics. It amazes me that you make such an issue about signage since everyone knows that signs mean almost nothing in this town. I can't remember how many times I've heard the old saying in one campaign headquarters or another that: : : : : "SIGNS DON'T VOTE...PEOPLE VOTE" : : : : If you recall...when Schundler ran against Manzo.... despite the fact that Schundler had a good deal of signage around town, Manzo papered the city like a paper-hanger on a caffeine high. It didn't wins him even one ward. So let's wait and see who actually has a GOTV effort organized...then we can start predicting who will be the next occupant of the corner office at 280 Grove. : : : : : : : : : The leaves are starting the fall -- and the Healy signs along with them! : : : : : Up in the Heights here, about two weeks ago Healy signs got plastered on a bunch of houses. One after another, I see people pitching them in the garbage. Anybody have any idea what gives? : : : : : And this isn't vandalism -- as in the case of the Manzo signs. The homeowners are taking the signs down themselves and putting them in the trash. I only saw one that was defaced by a magic markered "X." As it was kept up in that sorry state for a week, my assumption is that the damage is intentionally inflicted by the person living there. : : : : : I only know a little about a single case. Seems that the twerp agreed to put the sign up in exchange for like a little favor. . . (To all concerned, remember, as we've been told, God works in strange ways (Gov. James E. uses the word "mysterious.")) After a little bit, the slink dumped the yellow sign. This might be the first case of a voter breaking a campaign promise made to a politician! : : : : : Manzo signs are holding their own after the little wave of spite. A few Smith and Carroll signs are out and about. I can't remember seeing any for the other hopefuls. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bring Back NIDs - NOT! posted Message 5702 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 19:12:17 Subject: Re: there's the corrolary of the theorem: Didn't Schundler try that?, He called it Neighborhood IMprovement District "NIDs". A bunch of unemployed schlubs were given nifty vests and it began as a good idea and it delevoped into a bunch of Schundler Brown Shirts. At some point they gave out a bunch of tickets during a major snow storm in JC. These tickets were eventually thrown out by Judge Jerriamiah Healy... as the NIDs did not have the power to write or issue tickets, just like our DPW. oh yes the good old days, when Tom Corcoran had the NIDs all joing the St Patrick's Day Parade Committee in order to vote for his wife for some Honorary position. The place would get pack with almost 300 people, many who had no drop of irish blood in them, but told to show up, join the membership then vote for Mrs. Corcoran. They could even sign out at the aparde meeting from the city payroll instead of punching out at their HQ. Story was if Maureen wasn't elected to this Parade honory position, Tom was not allowed to come home . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Real Deal posted Message 5703 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 20:26:15 Subject: Re: there's the corrolary of the theorem: Well...I had hoped there were a few people with some intelligence and discretion we could hire...but your point is well taken. : Didn't Schundler try that?, He called it Neighborhood IMprovement District "NIDs". : A bunch of unemployed schlubs were given nifty vests and it began as a good idea and it delevoped into a bunch of Schundler Brown Shirts. : At some point they gave out a bunch of tickets during a major snow storm in JC. These tickets were eventually thrown out by Judge Jerriamiah Healy... as the NIDs did not have the power to write or issue tickets, just like our DPW. : oh yes the good old days, when Tom Corcoran had the NIDs all joing the St Patrick's Day Parade Committee in order to vote for his wife for some Honorary position. The place would get pack with almost 300 people, many who had no drop of irish blood in them, but told to show up, join the membership then vote for Mrs. Corcoran. : They could even sign out at the aparde meeting from the city payroll instead of punching out at their HQ. Story was if Maureen wasn't elected to this Parade honory position, Tom was not allowed to come home . : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** point of view posted Message 5704 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2004 at 20:46:03 Subject: North Bergen schools? Apparently, during a game of truth or dare a 14-year-old girl went down and performed oral sex on a male student and allowed at least two other boys to kiss and fondle her large bre.asts, among other acts. All in all nine students were involved in the suc.king, fingering, fondling and probing session. It is not clear whether or not there was more than one sl.ut besides the big tittied girl involved. The game halted at one point when Noonan heard the students giggling and asked what they were doing. Once she returned to her desk, the game resumed, the newspaper reported. "You would expect a teacher to be aware of what her students were doing in a small classroom," township spokesman Paul Swibinski said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 14-year-old girl went down and performed oral sex on a male student and allowed at least two other boys to kiss and fondle her large bre.asts, among other acts. All in all nine students were involved in the suc.king, fingering, fondling and probing session. posted Message 5705 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 08:31:33 Subject: Is this the school where Nick Sacco is principal? Being that up in North Bergen Sacco is mayor, state senator plus being a principal it's no wonder the teachers get no supervision. Grading papers my elbow, the teacher had to be taking a nap. : Apparently, during a game of truth or dare a 14-year-old girl went down and performed oral sex on a male student and allowed at least two other boys to kiss and fondle her large bre.asts, among other acts. All in all nine students were involved in the suc.king, fingering, fondling and probing session. It is not clear whether or not there was more than one sl.ut besides the big tittied girl involved. : The game halted at one point when Noonan heard the students giggling and asked what they were doing. Once she returned to her desk, the game resumed, the newspaper reported. : "You would expect a teacher to be aware of what her students were doing in a small classroom," township spokesman Paul Swibinski said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City First posted Message 5706 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 08:49:03 Subject: Degise to North Hudson: If you want to keep sacking and pillaging Jersey City you've got to help me so I can keep holding Jersey CIty down for you. Nick Sacko sends his crony Paul Swibinski to again help Tom Degise. Paul Swibinski is the North Hudson ad guy who made up the Glenn Cunningham as King KOng in the dirty alley ads for Tom Degise back in 2001. You'd think that nobody would ever want to be associated with Swibinski after that hate mongering racist flyer, but no Degise has went and brought him back to work on the Healy campaign. What is it Kounty Konniver Kennelly, do you have no fun during an election without getting the chance to break down the tolerance and respect that people in jersey city practice? We has already seen the disgraceful innuendo about Lou Manzo's personal life. What will be next? What will we expect to hear about the African-American candidates? What will they stoop to spreading rumour aotu those married to Latinas? The onlu lesson Swibinski, Kennelly, and Degise learned isn't that racism is despicable. No what these characters now do is to be more of the sneak. Instead of printing up honest with their names on it and take responsible for the trash and poison, now they send out fools to whisper and graffitti their racist garbage. Swibinski get back to North Bergen with the other disgraced white supremasict natsi and klan. The people of Jersey City will not put up with it neither the old timers, the new people, or the minorities. DOn't think that youi get enough caveman drunks to get away ewith it. The people of Jesey city send Degise out packing in 2001, and the people of the 31st elect Glenn as State Senator. What we don't want is you Swibinski. The peopel of Jersey CIty all cares for each other but you dgise, gaugahn, Kennelly we know for what they are. Healy seems a nice guy but if he wants to swim with the rats and the gabage in the sewer than he is going to smell to. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5707 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 09:28:27 Subject: Willie Flood did not drop out. Willie Flood is running for Mayor of Jersey City The posts stating that Willie Flood is no longer running for Mayor were not true. Bobby Jackson stated without hesitation that Willie Flood is still in the race. He went on to say that the Reform Democrats that backed Glenn Cunningham for State Senator now support Willie Flood and expect to see her elected Mayor this November. Ms. Flood met with Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith on Saturday to suggest that he remove his name from the ballot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THANK GODANYONE BUT SMITH! posted Message 5708 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 09:56:11 Subject: Re: Willie Flood did not drop out. Willie Flood is running for Mayor of Jersey City : The posts stating that Willie Flood is no longer running for Mayor were not true. : Bobby Jackson stated without hesitation that Willie Flood is still in the race. He went on to say that the Reform Democrats that backed Glenn Cunningham for State Senator now support Willie Flood and expect to see her elected Mayor this November. : Ms. Flood met with Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith on Saturday to suggest that he remove his name from the ballot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5709 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 10:26:31 Subject: Thank you Willie. I'm so happy you are staying in the race. Now I can continue to mock you and your family and get a few good laughs out of this room. Run Willie Run !!! Bwahahahahahaha !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 5710 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 10:30:25 Subject: Hey dude ... you gotta lighten up. And while you're at it, get a spell and grammar checker. :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5711 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 10:34:58 Subject: We in the Catholic Church .. frown on using such language and describing such lewd acts in such a graphic way. Of course acts in private, between consenting priests, is perfectly fine. We never kiss and tell. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 5712 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 10:43:25 Subject: Swibinski To Set the record straight, Healy has not hired Paul Swibinski for his Camapign, nor will he ever. Swibiski was responsible for Healy's literature in 1997 and there were a lot of problems. Mainly because Healy paid for the literature and Swibinski took his orders from Bobby J as what to put in that literture and when to actually let the peices be release. Swibinski has been recently run out of Ocean County and has been sued several times for what he has printed as well as by his own clients! Glenn ran a piece about it in 2001. Your story about North Bergen is very old as old as 2 years, what did you just wake up? ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5713 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 10:45:06 Subject: Re: Willie Flood did not drop out. Willie Flood is running for Mayor of Jersey City I'm glad Willie's back in, He'll make a fine run at his campaign to become mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5714 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 10:55:28 Subject: Re: Willie Flood did not drop out. Willie Flood is running for Mayor of Jersey City Good ole Willie, what a nice guy ! : I'm glad Willie's back in, He'll make a fine run at his campaign to become mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth posted Message 5715 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 11:45:23 Subject: Flood in Smith out The Great Father $$Schiller ESQ failed to get Flood out of the race. Harvey strong armed the preist to do so by threatening to take away his firms $$contracts$$ if Flood did not drop out. Schiller, being the sly fox that he is, now has told Smith to take a walk and is now on board with Flood. Harvey Smith has yet shot himself in the foot again. Flood will now be the only viable African American canidate. Willie Flood will be the mayor. Thank you Father Schiller and thank you Uncle Harvey! As Joe Doria said "God works in mysterious ways" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5716 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 11:52:24 Subject: Willie Flood is the woman not the man from back in the days. This message is just to let the people who don't know that Willie Flood is a woman. This is just another dirty trick to confuse the people as to who they are voting for. This isn't the Willie guy from 10 to 15 years ago that J Dolan thinks it is (wake up) she is actually a woman. I dont know why this guy insists on disrespecting my mom. I hope he just dosen't know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5717 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 12:00:17 Subject: Willie Flood "JERSEY CITY MAN OF THE YEAR" Go Willie Go! You're the only man for the job! ***************** End Of Article ****************** weeble posted Message 5718 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 12:05:56 Subject: Schiller with Flood Schiller has always been with Flood. : The Great Father $$Schiller ESQ failed to get Flood out of the race. Harvey strong armed the preist to do so by threatening to take away his firms $$contracts$$ if Flood did not drop out. : Schiller, being the sly fox that he is, now has told Smith to take a walk and is now on board with Flood. Harvey Smith has yet shot himself in the foot again. : Flood will now be the only viable African American canidate. : Willie Flood will be the mayor. Thank you Father Schiller and thank you Uncle Harvey! : As Joe Doria said "God works in mysterious ways" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inquirer posted Message 5719 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 12:07:47 Subject: Hello Phil OK if she is a women then why is she calling herself "Willie"? ***************** End Of Article ****************** JCIA Worker posted Message 5720 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 12:09:11 Subject: Harvey and Kip Smith Threatening jobs for support. I am tired of this fake Mayor threatening my job and the jobs of my co workers. They even have Clayton and Malcom flip flopping and panicing. Didn't Mr.Flood help them get those jobs? That just shows how this man and his Murderer son is. If you don't help them they'll kill you or your JOB!!! That's not a leader. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inquirer posted Message 5721 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 12:10:10 Subject: Schiller :As Joe Doria said "God works in mysterious ways" Believe it or not, despite the Roman Collar, Father Schiller is far from being a man of the cloth that he pretends to be! BRING BACK PATRICK HOUSE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5722 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 12:10:31 Subject: Re: Hello Phil Because that is the name on her birth certificate idiot!! : OK if she is a women then why is she calling herself "Willie"? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5723 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 12:11:45 Subject: Re: Willie Flood "JERSEY CITY MAN OF THE YEAR" Thanx for the free publicity!! Your kindness will be reciprocated. : Go Willie Go! You're the only man for the job! ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5724 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 12:12:11 Subject: Re: Hello Phil Willie Flood, what a nice guy. : Because that is the name on her birth certificate idiot!! : : OK if she is a women then why is she calling herself "Willie"? ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5725 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 12:14:36 Subject: Willie Flood was an All-County running back for Lincoln HS He gained 1750 yards in his senior year. Willie Flood what a nice guy and what a great running back. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5726 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 12:19:39 Subject: Harvey Smith falling fast Healy distancing himself from Manzo and Smith . Keep up the good work Harvey. Keep up the gay work Lou. Healy all the way ! : I am tired of this fake Mayor threatening my job and the jobs of my co workers. They even have Clayton and Malcom flip flopping and panicing. Didn't Mr.Flood help them get those jobs? That just shows how this man and his Murderer son is. If you don't help them they'll kill you or your JOB!!! That's not a leader. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inquirer posted Message 5727 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 12:35:39 Subject: Re: Hello Phil : Because that is the name on her birth certificate idiot!! idiot? Have we resorted to name calling Phil? I asked a pretty obvious question, why then was the name "Willie" choosen for him as a given name? Not William, Wilfred or Wilber? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil,jr posted Message 5728 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 12:58:34 Subject: Re: Hello Phil No it's not that I am just tired of people using useless rhetoric to discredit a very good woman. Does it matter what her first name is? Stick to the issues. I apologize if I hurt your feelings. It is Willie L. Flood and her mother was Willie also. These are southern names. OK? Do you understand now? : : Because that is the name on her birth certificate idiot!! : idiot? Have we resorted to name calling Phil? : I asked a pretty obvious question, why then was the name "Willie" choosen for him as a given name? Not William, Wilfred or Wilber? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil , Jr. posted Message 5729 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:00:18 Subject: Re: Willie Flood was an All-County running back for Lincoln HS Funny. : He gained 1750 yards in his senior year. Willie Flood what a nice guy and what a great running back. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth posted Message 5730 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:08:39 Subject: Healy to drop out Joan Quigley to enter mayoral race? Healy's camp in dissaray after several polls have been done with each of them showing Healy in 4th palce on all of them. Many inside the camp are calling for Healy to step aside to let Assemblywoman Joan Quigley run for mayor. Healy just doesn't have enough drive to make a serious run for the position of mayor. Quigley would be a better canidate than Healy in this lacking field of wannabe mayors. More importantly, she doesn't seem to have any personal problems that Healy has. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ya dont say posted Message 5731 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:17:38 Subject: Re: Willie Flood was an All-County running back for Lincoln HS : But it must be true cause obviously, J Dolan has been drop kicked one too many times. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Painter posted Message 5732 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:27:13 Subject: Re: Healy to drop out Joan Quigley to enter mayoral race? Healy would be better off supporting Ron Buonocore and his Goon Squad. Jerry would have the Don's protection and will not have to hide from our Jerry! This way, we can eliminate both at once! Manzo is the only Honest candidate in the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5733 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:32:33 Subject: Re: Healy to drop out Joan Quigley to enter mayoral race? Healy drop out ? No way he is in the lead by far. Degise, Gaughan and Demelier are with him. No way he will lose. : Healy would be better off supporting Ron Buonocore and his Goon Squad. Jerry would have the Don's protection and will not have to hide from our Jerry! This way, we can eliminate both at once! Manzo is the only Honest candidate in the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Professor Ted posted Message 5734 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:32:48 Subject: Re: Harvey Smith falling fast Does Harvey have a education? Every time I hear him speak, use of words, I get the feeling that he cut a lot of school classes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5735 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:34:32 Subject: Hey Painter We know who you are and what you did to Buddy's car . We'll see you real soon ...When you least expect it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Panther posted Message 5736 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:34:51 Subject: Re: Healy to drop out Joan Quigley to enter mayoral race? Along with Healy you just named 2 of the biggest racist biggots in HC. : : Healy drop out ? No way he is in the lead by far. Degise, Gaughan and Demelier are with him. No way he will lose. : : Healy would be better off supporting Ron Buonocore and his Goon Squad. Jerry would have the Don's protection and will not have to hide from our Jerry! This way, we can eliminate both at once! Manzo is the only Honest candidate in the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Whatever posted Message 5737 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:36:59 Subject: Re: Hey Painter See me then. I'm waiting. Baby. And I always expect it. : We know who you are and what you did to Buddy's car . We'll see you real soon ...When you least expect it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Former Student. posted Message 5738 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:38:09 Subject: Re: Harvey Smith falling fast Yeah he did. That's why I never got in trouble!! LOL : Does Harvey have a education? Every time I hear him speak, use of words, I get the feeling that he cut a lot of school classes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter posted Message 5739 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:42:57 Subject: WILLIE IS NOT I repeat NOT DROPPING OUT This is a trick the Manzo camp is using to try to steal the election. We all know why Manzo wants to be mayor. He looks at JC as a lucrative business opp. He dosen't care about the city. Just the city's money. Anyway she isn't stopping. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Clergy posted Message 5740 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:44:51 Subject: Re: Schiller Schiller is not a man of the cloth, he is a Lawyer pretending to be a priests. Archbishop Meyers should be ashamed of himself allowing this to continue. And to you Willie, you call yourself a friend of Sandy? Real friends don't screw oneanother. Take a real good look at those around you, you Willie are not in there best interest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ???? posted Message 5741 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:46:02 Subject: J Dolan MUST BE USING EXTACY He must be. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY posted Message 5742 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:47:59 Subject: Re: Healy to drop out Joan Quigley to enter mayoral race? :. THE THINGS YOU PEOPLE COME UP WITH ARE AMAZING!! HEALY IS IN THIS RACE AND IS NOT DROPPING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY posted Message 5742 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:48:02 Subject: Re: Healy to drop out Joan Quigley to enter mayoral race? :. THE THINGS YOU PEOPLE COME UP WITH ARE AMAZING!! HEALY IS IN THIS RACE AND IS NOT DROPPING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY posted Message 5743 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:50:18 Subject: Re: Healy to drop out Joan Quigley to enter mayoral race? : COME ON ENOUGH HEALY IS NOT A RACIST CANT YOU PEOPLE COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER THAN THE SAME OLD TIRED THINGS YOU SAY HEALY IS THE BEST CANDIDATE AND HE WILL BE OUR MAYOR COME NOVEMBER. : : : : : Healy drop out ? No way he is in the lead by far. Degise, Gaughan and Demelier are with him. No way he will lose. : : : Healy would be better off supporting Ron Buonocore and his Goon Squad. Jerry would have the Don's protection and will not have to hide from our Jerry! This way, we can eliminate both at once! Manzo is the only Honest candidate in the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I saw you. posted Message 5744 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 13:56:54 Subject: OK then IS JERRY STILL CROSSDRESSING in NY? I saw the dresses. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5745 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 14:19:19 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cracker Boy posted Message 5746 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 14:24:13 Subject: Biggest Bigot?? I think you left Willie Flood off your list. He's one of the biggest bigots going.. hates whitey! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inquirer posted Message 5747 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 14:29:08 Subject: Re: Hello Phil Phil, Serious, what does "Willie" mean, is it a family name? Everyone wants to know about their officals or candidates running, like the W in George W. Bush. The fact that Kerry is not John Kerry's real name. It's an interest to the voters. A little advice, not to be meant as mean, but if these posts are getting to you and you have to resort to name calling over something that simple, then pehaps you better stay away from your mother's campaign as it's only staring and going to get tough! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I dont want you bursting a blood vessel posted Message 5748 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 14:40:10 Subject: Time for your meds IrishPrincess : : COME ON ENOUGH HEALY IS NOT A RACIST CANT YOU PEOPLE COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER THAN THE SAME OLD TIRED THINGS YOU SAY HEALY IS THE BEST CANDIDATE AND HE WILL BE OUR MAYOR COME NOVEMBER. : : : : : : : : Healy drop out ? No way he is in the lead by far. Degise, Gaughan and Demelier are with him. No way he will lose. : : : : Healy would be better off supporting Ron Buonocore and his Goon Squad. Jerry would have the Don's protection and will not have to hide from our Jerry! This way, we can eliminate both at once! Manzo is the only Honest candidate in the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey doesn't want any competition from a sista. posted Message 5749 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 14:41:51 Subject: And what makes you so sure it is Manzo? : This is a trick the Manzo camp is using to try to steal the election. We all know why Manzo wants to be mayor. He looks at JC as a lucrative business opp. He dosen't care about the city. Just the city's money. Anyway she isn't stopping. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Melvin? posted Message 5750 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 14:46:42 Subject: Phil, wasn't your paternal grandmother's name : No it's not that I am just tired of people using useless rhetoric to discredit a very good woman. Does it matter what her first name is? Stick to the issues. I apologize if I hurt your feelings. It is Willie L. Flood and her mother was Willie also. These are southern names. OK? Do you understand now? : : : : Because that is the name on her birth certificate idiot!! : : idiot? Have we resorted to name calling Phil? : : I asked a pretty obvious question, why then was the name "Willie" choosen for him as a given name? Not William, Wilfred or Wilber? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Color posted Message 5751 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 15:02:42 Subject: Re: Willie Flood "JERSEY CITY MAN OF THE YEAR" Willie is the only man for the job because she looks like a man! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil, Jr. posted Message 5752 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 15:14:30 Subject: Re: Phil, wasn't your paternal grandmother's name Again, not that it matters that is my father's mother's first name. God bless her soul. R.I.P Grandma. Sorry they are bringing you in it too. : : No it's not that I am just tired of people using useless rhetoric to discredit a very good woman. Does it matter what her first name is? Stick to the issues. I apologize if I hurt your feelings. It is Willie L. Flood and her mother was Willie also. These are southern names. OK? Do you understand now? : : : : : : Because that is the name on her birth certificate idiot!! : : : idiot? Have we resorted to name calling Phil? : : : I asked a pretty obvious question, why then was the name "Willie" choosen for him as a given name? Not William, Wilfred or Wilber? ***************** End Of Article ****************** She is missed posted Message 5753 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 15:20:00 Subject: She was a fine lady, jovial & kind. : Again, not that it matters that is my father's mother's first name. God bless her soul. R.I.P Grandma. Sorry they are bringing you in it too. : : : : No it's not that I am just tired of people using useless rhetoric to discredit a very good woman. Does it matter what her first name is? Stick to the issues. I apologize if I hurt your feelings. It is Willie L. Flood and her mother was Willie also. These are southern names. OK? Do you understand now? : : : : : : : : Because that is the name on her birth certificate idiot!! : : : : idiot? Have we resorted to name calling Phil? : : : : I asked a pretty obvious question, why then was the name "Willie" choosen for him as a given name? Not William, Wilfred or Wilber? ***************** End Of Article ****************** VD posted Message 5754 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 15:21:42 Subject: MANZO FOR MAYOR ? MANZO FOR MAYOR RAY ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** LLLLLLLLLLL posted Message 5755 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 15:23:21 Subject: Re: Time for your meds IrishPrincess : : :HA! FUNNY...ITS NOT IRISHPRINCESS GET IT RIGHT IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE COMMENTS. : : : : : : : : : : : Healy drop out ? No way he is in the lead by far. Degise, Gaughan and Demelier are with him. No way he will lose. : : : : : Healy would be better off supporting Ron Buonocore and his Goon Squad. Jerry would have the Don's protection and will not have to hide from our Jerry! This way, we can eliminate both at once! Manzo is the only Honest candidate in the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Jr. posted Message 5756 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 15:23:37 Subject: Re: Hello Phil I'm not the least bit upset. I have been conditioned for this all my life. I have been her son for 26 years. I didn't mean to seem offensive but I thought you were being facitous. No, That's her real name. That Dolan guy was kind of getting to me but I laugh at him now because I realize some people's purpose is to do what he does. That's his job. Anyway like I said her name is Willie L. Flood. Her mother named her. Her name was Willie Lewis. I appreciate your advice and I sincerely apologize if I offended you in any way. : Phil, : Serious, what does "Willie" mean, is it a family name? : Everyone wants to know about their officals or candidates running, like the W in George W. Bush. The fact that Kerry is not John Kerry's real name. It's an interest to the voters. : A little advice, not to be meant as mean, but if these posts are getting to you and you have to resort to name calling over something that simple, then pehaps you better stay away from your mother's campaign as it's only staring and going to get tough! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The real story. posted Message 5757 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 15:32:49 Subject: Re: Schiller Willie did not screw Sandy. Get the facts first. Who's coalition is supporting Willie? The Reform Democrats. The very coalition that Glenn founded. Who is screwing who? Who is Sandy supporting? Ron Bon. So again who is screwing who? : Schiller is not a man of the cloth, he is a Lawyer pretending to be a priests. Archbishop Meyers should be ashamed of himself allowing this to continue. And to you Willie, you call yourself a friend of Sandy? Real friends don't screw oneanother. Take a real good look at those around you, you Willie are not in there best interest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil, Jr. posted Message 5758 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 15:37:53 Subject: Re: Willie Flood "JERSEY CITY MAN OF THE YEAR" Is that the best you can do? I know you can be more creative than that. Or can you? If this is the best y'all can do we have absolutely nothing to worry about. : Willie is the only man for the job because she looks like a man! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted Message 5759 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 15:40:57 Subject: Re: MANZO FOR MAYOR ? Why so it could turn to mafia town? : : MANZO FOR MAYOR : RAY ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Jr, posted Message 5760 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 15:45:20 Subject: Re: Biggest Bigot?? helloooooooo. I have white aunts and mixed cousins. My greatgrandfather was Jewish!! Wake up. : I think you left Willie Flood off your list. : He's one of the biggest bigots going.. hates whitey! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well, whoever you are, I dont want you posted Message 5761 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 15:56:39 Subject: bursting a blood vessel : : : :HA! FUNNY...ITS NOT IRISHPRINCESS GET IT RIGHT IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE COMMENTS. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Healy drop out ? No way he is in the lead by far. Degise, Gaughan and Demelier are with him. No way he will lose. : : : : : : Healy would be better off supporting Ron Buonocore and his Goon Squad. Jerry would have the Don's protection and will not have to hide from our Jerry! This way, we can eliminate both at once! Manzo is the only Honest candidate in the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cracker Boy posted Message 5762 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 16:18:17 Subject: Re: Biggest Bigot?? : helloooooooo. I have white aunts and mixed cousins. My greatgrandfather was Jewish!! Wake up. How about some of my best friends are white? That sounds more like the typical bigot line. So your explanation explains the racist comments we have heard from Willie over the years? She hates whitey and has gotten to her positions in city and county government because of Whitey and she was the profile that needed to be fit. Now she has surrounded herself with more White Bigots. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inquirer posted Message 5763 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 16:22:53 Subject: Re: Hello Phil Thanks Phil for that explanation. Good Luck with the campaign. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5764 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 16:23:02 Subject: Re: J Dolan MUST BE USING EXTACY Not exactly. : He must be. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5765 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 16:25:41 Subject: Re: WILLIE IS NOT I repeat NOT DROPPING OUT Way to go Willie ! Thank God he is staying in the race. Lets hope Mc Manzo drops out. : This is a trick the Manzo camp is using to try to steal the election. We all know why Manzo wants to be mayor. He looks at JC as a lucrative business opp. He dosen't care about the city. Just the city's money. Anyway she isn't stopping. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Jr. posted Message 5766 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 16:39:46 Subject: Re: Biggest Bigot?? You sound upset. Relax. : : helloooooooo. I have white aunts and mixed cousins. My greatgrandfather was Jewish!! Wake up. : How about some of my best friends are white? That sounds more like the typical bigot line. : So your explanation explains the racist comments we have heard from Willie over the years? : She hates whitey and has gotten to her positions in city and county government because of Whitey and she was the profile that needed to be fit. : Now she has surrounded herself with more White Bigots. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ???? posted Message 5767 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 16:42:10 Subject: Re: J Dolan MUST BE USING EXTACY What is it then? Coke? : Not exactly. : : He must be. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cracker Boy posted Message 5768 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 16:52:53 Subject: Re: Biggest Bigot?? : You sound upset. Relax. Can I use this to say you condone such actions? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jack Daniels posted Message 5769 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 17:02:52 Subject: Be there or be square Drinking tournament at casino in the park . Semi Final Brennan vs Gaughan Healy vs Degise ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 5770 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 17:13:25 Subject: POLL FLOODED POLL FLOODED Urban Times News September 3, 2004 - September 9, 2004 By Arnold Stovell When Willie Flood was First approached with the opportunity to run for mayor she declined. The prospect of running for the office of the man who meant so much to her was daunting, not because she was incapable of handling the rigors of campaigning and service, but because it would continue to broaden the rift already dividing Jersey City and her people. Outside reports on the findings of the poll conducted by the Reform Democratic Party were already leaked before her announcement, purporting Lou Manzo as their defacto candidate. What outsiders did not consider was that polls are only as useful as the people who interpret them. We asked Ms. Flood about her decision to run, "I would not have done it if the polls did not say I could do it. Jersey City has been through a lot in the past few months, and the only reason to run was because the people want to see me run." Would it be hard for her to work around the justified anger and resentment that she could have for her opponent? "We've got to put things that are in the past to the side in order to make it to the future. Jersey City needs healing. The people of Jersey City deserve an elected official who will put them first, and not county bosses." Willie Flood was the obvious choice. She has served Jersey City as a school teacher for some 30 plus years. She has served on the board of education. She has served on the city council. She is familiar with these circumstances, having filled the un-expired term of former councilwoman Maureen Collier. She is the one true legitimate candidate in this race that had the relationship with Glenn Cunningham that they claim. We are very confident and glad that Willie has accepted this call to service with the same grace that she has shown in the past." According to Bobby Jackson, publisher of the Urban Times News and Reform Democrat Party big-wig, the polls made the difference in his decision. There were good numbers for Lou Manzo, and Buonocore, but Willie Flood was within two or three percentage points of the leaders without having announced that she was ever intending to run. We don't just run a popularity contest, we consider what the people say they want to see, and from the polls, the people want to see Willie Flood in office." When asked about the support of Sandra Cunningham, conspicuously absent from the proceedings and RDC, Mrs. Flood was kind and gracious. This reporter however could not help but notice the lack of sparkle in her demeanor when touching on the sensitive topic. "We are of course disappointed that Mrs. Cunningham has supported another candidate against the party that her husband founded, but we recognize what she has been through and we recognize that it is her right to choose whomever she wants to support. This is America and everyone has the right to make their own decisions." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dan posted Message 5771 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 17:40:57 Subject: Re: POLL FLOODED Why don't they release the complete poll to anyone ? Here's why. The poll was conducted in Ward F only. Lou Manzo had a lead of 11% over all others listed in the poll (3 listed were Afro Americans Flood , Smith& Allen). If Manzo is ahead in Ward F by 11 % Flood should just pack it in. She'll be lucky to get 4,000 votes city wide and thats not even be close to the 16,000 votes probably needed to win this race. Carwell & Jackson will make a nice profit off of this campaign and are sure to come out smelling like roses. Sandy Cunningham would not endorese Flood because she is a weak canidate. Sandy's late husband was the only real canidate ever to come out of Ward F. He was a true gentleman and great role model for all . As usual the UTN does not report all of the facts. : POLL FLOODED : Urban Times News : September 3, 2004 - September 9, 2004 : By Arnold Stovell : When Willie Flood was First approached with the opportunity to run for mayor she declined. The prospect of running for the office of the man who meant so much to her was daunting, not because she was incapable of handling the rigors of campaigning and service, but because it would continue to broaden the rift already dividing Jersey City and her people. : Outside reports on the findings of the poll conducted by the Reform Democratic Party were already leaked before her announcement, purporting Lou Manzo as their defacto candidate. What outsiders did not consider was that polls are only as useful as the people who interpret them. : We asked Ms. Flood about her decision to run, "I would not have done it if the polls did not say I could do it. Jersey City has been through a lot in the past few months, and the only reason to run was because the people want to see me run." : Would it be hard for her to work around the justified anger and resentment that she could have for her opponent? "We've got to put things that are in the past to the side in order to make it to the future. Jersey City needs healing. The people of Jersey City deserve an elected official who will put them first, and not county bosses." : Willie Flood was the obvious choice. She has served Jersey City as a school teacher for some 30 plus years. She has served on the board of education. She has served on the city council. She is familiar with these circumstances, having filled the un-expired term of former councilwoman Maureen Collier. She is the one true legitimate candidate in this race that had the relationship with Glenn Cunningham that they claim. We are very confident and glad that Willie has accepted this call to service with the same grace that she has shown in the past." : According to Bobby Jackson, publisher of the Urban Times News and Reform Democrat Party big-wig, the polls made the difference in his decision. There were good numbers for Lou Manzo, and Buonocore, but Willie Flood was within two or three percentage points of the leaders without having announced that she was ever intending to run. We don't just run a popularity contest, we consider what the people say they want to see, and from the polls, the people want to see Willie Flood in office." : When asked about the support of Sandra Cunningham, conspicuously absent from the proceedings and RDC, Mrs. Flood was kind and gracious. This reporter however could not help but notice the lack of sparkle in her demeanor when touching on the sensitive topic. "We are of course disappointed that Mrs. Cunningham has supported another candidate against the party that her husband founded, but we recognize what she has been through and we recognize that it is her right to choose whomever she wants to support. This is America and everyone has the right to make their own decisions." ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 5772 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 18:11:35 Subject: HARVEY SMITH POLL (OUCH) HARVEY'S TRYING TO KEEP THIS ONE QUIET. MANZO 38 SMITH 19 FLOOD 11 HEALY 11 BUNOCORE 6 CARROLL 2 UNDECIDED 13 +/- 4 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5773 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 20:26:02 Subject: Ebonics I am so proud of myself. When I invented ebonics I never knew it would be so popular. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5774 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 20:28:36 Subject: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ That is the sound heard coming from Willie at both School Board and City Council meetings. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5775 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 20:34:12 Subject: No paisans ? Black, jewish italians make the best candidates. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5776 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 20:38:23 Subject: I am dropping out .. and tuning in. Oh wait, I was never in !!! Mama mia !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry Garcia posted Message 5777 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 20:46:41 Subject: What a long strange trip it's been Jersey City politics. You can't make this stuff up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5778 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2004 at 20:49:42 Subject: I hate that Schiller. I thought we all took a vow of poverty !!! I want a place in the Virgin Islands like he has. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ebonics 101 posted Message 5779 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 00:22:53 Subject: The written word vs the spoken word What was written is completely differnt then the spoken word! Here's how it sounded. Urban Times News Septemba' 3, 2004- Septemba' 9, 2004 By Mojo Stovell When Willie Flood wuz Fust approached wid de oppo'tunity t'run fo' mayo' she declined. De prospect uh runnin' fo' de office uh de joker who meant so's much t'ha' wuz dauntin', not cuz' she wuz incapable uh handlin' de rigo's uh campaignin' and service, but cuz' it would continue t'broaden de rift already dividin' Jersey City and ha' suc ka's. Outside repo'ts on de findin's uh de poll conducted by de Refo'm Democratic Party wuz already leaked befo'e ha' announcement, purpo'tin' Lou Manzo as deir defacto kindun didate. Whut outsiders dun did not consida' wuz dat polls is only as useful as de suc ka's who interpret dem. WORD! We ax'ed Ms. Flood about ha' decision t'run, "I would not gots done it if de polls dun did not say ah' could do it. Man! Jersey City gots been drough some lot in de past few monds, and da damn only reason t'run wuz cuz' de suc ka's wanna see me run. 'S coo', bro." Would it be hard fo' ha' to wo'k around da damn justified anga' and resentment dat she could gots fo' ha' opponent? "We've gots'ta put doodads dat is in de past t'de side in o'da' to make it t'de future. Jersey City needs healin'. De suc ka's uh Jersey City deserve an elected official who gots'ta put dem fust, and not county Manes." Willie Flood wuz de obvious choice. She gots served Jersey City as some farm head homeboy fo' some 30 plus years. She gots served on de bo'd uh educashun. She gots served on de city council. She be familiar wid dese circumstances, havin' filled da damn un-'spired term uh fo'ma' councilhonky chick Maureen Collier. Ah be baaad... She be de one true legitimate kindun didate in dis race dat had da damn relashunship wid Glenn Cunnin'ham dat dey claim. WORD! We is very confident and glad dat Willie gots accepted dis call t'service wid de same grace dat she gots shown in de past. Man!" Acco'din' t'Bobby Buckwheatson, publisha' of de Urban Times News and Refo'm Democrat Party big-wig, de polls made da damn difference in his decision. 'S coo', bro. Dere wuz baaaad numbers fo' Lou Manzo, and Buonoco'e, but Willie Flood wuz widin two o' dree puh'centage points uh de leaders widout havin' announced dat she wuz eva' intendin' t'run. 'S coo', bro. We duzn't plum run some popularity contest, we consida' whut de suc ka's say dey wanna see, and fum de polls, de suc ka's wanna see Willie Flood in office." When ax'ed about da damn suppo't uh dat fine femahnaine ladee Cunnin'ham, conspicuously absent fum de proceedin's and RDC, Mrs. Flood wuz kind and gracious. Dis repo'ta' howeva' could not help but notice da damn lack uh sparkle in ha' demeano' when touchin' on de sensitive topic. Co' got d' beat! "We is of course disappointed dat Mrs. Cunnin'ham gots suppo'ted anoda' candun didate against da damn party dat ha' husband founded, but we recognize whut she gots been drough and we recognize dat it be ha' right t'choose wcribva' she wantsa suppo't. Man! Dis be America and everyone gots de right t'make deir own decisions." ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5780 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 05:38:50 Subject: Healy camp paying bounty of $10 per sign? A source informs that the Healy for Mayor organization is paying a bounty of $10 for each of the competition's signs deinstalled and delivered. Will anybody confirm or deny this? Is the $10 for any of the candidates' signs? Or is it only for certain signs? Are any of the other organizations providing similar "entrepreneurial opportunities?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not suprised posted Message 5781 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 06:31:32 Subject: Re: Healy camp paying bounty of $10 per sign? :::Hmmmm, they are giving their toadies a pay raise. During the 2001 fiasco there was a $5 bounty. A 100% increase in under 3 years. Not bad. As there are virtually no "other" signs up, guess who they are targeting. Their spiritual leader, he of the wrinkled clothes, says one of the other plans is to follow the competition around when they do their walks, then come through later, take down the signs put up and replace them with theirs. Honesty and integrity at its best. : A source informs that the Healy for Mayor organization is paying a bounty of $10 for each of the competition's signs deinstalled and delivered. Will anybody confirm or deny this? Is the $10 for any of the candidates' signs? Or is it only for certain signs? Are any of the other organizations providing similar "entrepreneurial opportunities?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5782 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 07:46:55 Subject: Does anybody know what the law is on this? Does anybody know what the law is on this? My view from the curb is that as it's illegal to put a sign up on a public property, a sign on a pole is fair game (as long as the action doesn't create a safety hazard). Of course, if the opposition sees their signage being removed, one must realize that engaging in a hazardous activity entails to some degree the assumption of risk -- ye'r puttin' yer behin' on the line, Bub! A sign on a house or a business is a different story. Tampering with that is criminal mischief and infringing on someone's right to expression. : :::Hmmmm, they are giving their toadies a pay raise. During the 2001 fiasco there was a $5 bounty. A 100% increase in under 3 years. Not bad. : As there are virtually no "other" signs up, guess who they are targeting. : Their spiritual leader, he of the wrinkled clothes, says one of the other plans is to follow the competition around when they do their walks, then come through later, take down the signs put up and replace them with theirs. : Honesty and integrity at its best. : : A source informs that the Healy for Mayor organization is paying a bounty of $10 for each of the competition's signs deinstalled and delivered. Will anybody confirm or deny this? Is the $10 for any of the candidates' signs? Or is it only for certain signs? Are any of the other organizations providing similar "entrepreneurial opportunities?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5783 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 08:13:12 Subject: Will Mayor Manzo takes orders from Menendez? There is a lot of money to be made off of Xanandu.Tell us lou about the Menendez factor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Duddley posted Message 5784 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 08:25:24 Subject: Dolan is a woman with a fat ass Wasn't that DOlan bending over to picvk up a penny on CC Drive yesterday? Geeze Dolan....wear a girdle or something. That ass of yours is an abomination. : He gained 1750 yards in his senior year. Willie Flood what a nice guy and what a great running back. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Duddley posted Message 5785 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 08:27:27 Subject: Dolan is going through menopause Dolan is obviously delusional at this moment. It seems she is going through menopause and hasn't taken her meds lately. SOmone please help her get her head out of her ass. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nonsense posted Message 5786 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 08:31:23 Subject: Re: Healy camp paying bounty of $10 per sign? There is no fool on this planet who would put a 10-dollar bounty on signage. That's just dumb. It costs about $1.50 to put one up. So if Healy had a bounty on signs....his opposition could financially break him by just plastering the town with signage which Healy would have to then pay someone for when they tore em down. : A source informs that the Healy for Mayor organization is paying a bounty of $10 for each of the competition's signs deinstalled and delivered. Will anybody confirm or deny this? Is the $10 for any of the candidates' signs? Or is it only for certain signs? Are any of the other organizations providing similar "entrepreneurial opportunities?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's why not! posted Message 5787 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 08:38:34 Subject: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #11 of 100 Lou Manzo's assembly district includes Bayonne. If Lou Manzo is Mayor of Jersey City there always will be the temptation to put Bayonne first. Jersey City can't afford a conflict of interest in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 5788 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 08:48:36 Subject: What is the going rate? What is the going rate for this line of work? I've noticed that the Manzo group is putting up extra large plastic signs way up on the poles. I thought that maybe the $10 per sign is for those trophies. Would seem like you would need two guys (at least), a big ladder and a vehicle to rip these big signs down. Probably, you'd need to do it late at night, too. Keep in mind, handing out flyers for a men's clothing store in NYC gets you $8 per hr. -- with no climbing and no risk of a knock on the noggin! : There is no fool on this planet who would put a 10-dollar bounty on signage. That's just dumb. It costs about $1.50 to put one up. So if Healy had a bounty on signs....his opposition could financially break him by just plastering the town with signage which Healy would have to then pay someone for when they tore em down. : : A source informs that the Healy for Mayor organization is paying a bounty of $10 for each of the competition's signs deinstalled and delivered. Will anybody confirm or deny this? Is the $10 for any of the candidates' signs? Or is it only for certain signs? Are any of the other organizations providing similar "entrepreneurial opportunities?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** White Widower posted Message 5789 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 09:02:15 Subject: Re: Will Mayor Manzo takes orders from Menendez? ::Well, we all know you take your orders from him because you have not got the brains to make this crap up yourself. : There is a lot of money to be made off of Xanandu.Tell us lou about the Menendez factor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 89 more yawns posted Message 5790 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 09:06:58 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #11 of 100 :::At the time, Joe "Son of Sandwich" Doria's assembly district included Jersey City. We got Jack Squat. It will be Jersey City first. Post again when you can put together a coherent statement. Keep building your sandcastles and drooling you old fool. : Lou Manzo's assembly district includes Bayonne. : If Lou Manzo is Mayor of Jersey City there always will be the temptation to put Bayonne first. : Jersey City can't afford a conflict of interest in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Back Widow posted Message 5791 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 09:19:52 Subject: Soon the Political HC County Machine will be Dead Menendez & Kenny will then sell-out each other.Watch. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey's a dud posted Message 5792 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 09:30:25 Subject: Re: New Poll : . : : MANZO Jail : SMITH Job at Crown Chicken : FLOOD Housewife : HEALY Bartender : BUNOCORE Jersey City Mayor : CARROLL Court TV : UNDECIDED Don't live in Jersey City : +/- 4 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5793 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 09:40:48 Subject: $300,000 up in smoke Watch how fast Cunninghams $300,000 disappears.UTN wins Again over the Ward F Brain dead. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stick to the issues. posted Message 5794 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 09:42:20 Subject: Re: The written word vs the spoken word Obviously you have no life , girlfriend, or job for that matter if you had enough time to sit and re-write this whole article. Also, you must know or be very interested in the African American culture to do that. I understand. You want to be like us. Anyway. Stick to the issues. Pahtna'!!! : What was written is completely differnt then the spoken word! : Here's how it sounded. : : Urban Times News : Septemba' 3, 2004- Septemba' 9, 2004 : By Mojo Stovell : When Willie Flood wuz Fust approached wid de oppo'tunity t'run fo' mayo' she declined. De prospect uh runnin' fo' de office uh de joker who meant so's much t'ha' wuz dauntin', not cuz' she wuz incapable uh handlin' de rigo's uh campaignin' and service, but cuz' it would continue t'broaden de rift already dividin' Jersey City and ha' suc ka's. : Outside repo'ts on de findin's uh de poll conducted by de Refo'm Democratic Party wuz already leaked befo'e ha' announcement, purpo'tin' Lou Manzo as deir defacto kindun didate. Whut outsiders dun did not consida' wuz dat polls is only as useful as de suc ka's who interpret dem. WORD! : We ax'ed Ms. Flood about ha' decision t'run, "I would not gots done it if de polls dun did not say ah' could do it. Man! Jersey City gots been drough some lot in de past few monds, and da damn only reason t'run wuz cuz' de suc ka's wanna see me run. 'S coo', bro." : Would it be hard fo' ha' to wo'k around da damn justified anga' and resentment dat she could gots fo' ha' opponent? "We've gots'ta put doodads dat is in de past t'de side in o'da' to make it t'de future. Jersey City needs healin'. De suc ka's uh Jersey City deserve an elected official who gots'ta put dem fust, and not county Manes." : Willie Flood wuz de obvious choice. She gots served Jersey City as some farm head homeboy fo' some 30 plus years. She gots served on de bo'd uh educashun. She gots served on de city council. She be familiar wid dese circumstances, havin' filled da damn un-'spired term uh fo'ma' councilhonky chick Maureen Collier. Ah be baaad... She be de one true legitimate kindun didate in dis race dat had da damn relashunship wid Glenn Cunnin'ham dat dey claim. WORD! We is very confident and glad dat Willie gots accepted dis call t'service wid de same grace dat she gots shown in de past. : Man!" Acco'din' t'Bobby Buckwheatson, publisha' of de Urban Times News and Refo'm Democrat Party big-wig, de polls made da damn difference in his decision. 'S coo', bro. Dere wuz baaaad numbers fo' Lou Manzo, and Buonoco'e, but Willie Flood wuz widin two o' dree puh'centage points uh de leaders widout havin' announced dat she wuz eva' intendin' t'run. 'S coo', bro. We duzn't plum run some popularity contest, we consida' whut de suc ka's say dey wanna see, and fum de polls, de suc ka's wanna see Willie Flood in office." : When ax'ed about da damn suppo't uh dat fine femahnaine ladee Cunnin'ham, conspicuously absent fum de proceedin's and RDC, Mrs. Flood wuz kind and gracious. Dis repo'ta' howeva' could not help but notice da damn lack uh sparkle in ha' demeano' when touchin' on de sensitive topic. Co' got d' beat! "We is of course disappointed dat Mrs. Cunnin'ham gots suppo'ted anoda' candun didate against da damn party dat ha' husband founded, but we recognize whut she gots been drough and we recognize dat it be ha' right t'choose wcribva' she wantsa suppo't. Man! Dis be America and everyone gots de right t'make deir own decisions." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5795 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 09:45:29 Subject: Re: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ You must be a sick individual to take pride in calling yourself the devil. That's why I'm going to leave you alone. Peace and love satan. : That is the sound heard coming from Willie at both School Board and City Council meetings. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where do you get your information? posted Message 5796 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 09:50:30 Subject: Re: POLL FLOODED The polls are done citywide. The same company that did the polls for Glenn are doing them for Willie. Stop trying to put shti in the game. : Why don't they release the complete poll to anyone ? : Here's why. : The poll was conducted in Ward F only. Lou Manzo had a lead of 11% over all others listed in the poll (3 listed were Afro Americans Flood , Smith& Allen). If Manzo is ahead in Ward F by 11 % : Flood should just pack it in. She'll be lucky to get 4,000 : votes city wide and thats not even be close to the 16,000 votes probably needed to win this race. Carwell & Jackson will make a nice profit off of this campaign and are sure to come out smelling like roses. Sandy Cunningham would not endorese Flood because she is a weak canidate. Sandy's late husband was the only real canidate ever to come out of Ward F. He was a true gentleman and great role model for all . : As usual the UTN does not report all of the facts. : : POLL FLOODED : : Urban Times News : : September 3, 2004 - September 9, 2004 : : By Arnold Stovell : : When Willie Flood was First approached with the opportunity to run for mayor she declined. The prospect of running for the office of the man who meant so much to her was daunting, not because she was incapable of handling the rigors of campaigning and service, but because it would continue to broaden the rift already dividing Jersey City and her people. : : Outside reports on the findings of the poll conducted by the Reform Democratic Party were already leaked before her announcement, purporting Lou Manzo as their defacto candidate. What outsiders did not consider was that polls are only as useful as the people who interpret them. : : We asked Ms. Flood about her decision to run, "I would not have done it if the polls did not say I could do it. Jersey City has been through a lot in the past few months, and the only reason to run was because the people want to see me run." : : Would it be hard for her to work around the justified anger and resentment that she could have for her opponent? "We've got to put things that are in the past to the side in order to make it to the future. Jersey City needs healing. The people of Jersey City deserve an elected official who will put them first, and not county bosses." : : Willie Flood was the obvious choice. She has served Jersey City as a school teacher for some 30 plus years. She has served on the board of education. She has served on the city council. She is familiar with these circumstances, having filled the un-expired term of former councilwoman Maureen Collier. She is the one true legitimate candidate in this race that had the relationship with Glenn Cunningham that they claim. We are very confident and glad that Willie has accepted this call to service with the same grace that she has shown in the past." : : According to Bobby Jackson, publisher of the Urban Times News and Reform Democrat Party big-wig, the polls made the difference in his decision. There were good numbers for Lou Manzo, and Buonocore, but Willie Flood was within two or three percentage points of the leaders without having announced that she was ever intending to run. We don't just run a popularity contest, we consider what the people say they want to see, and from the polls, the people want to see Willie Flood in office." : : When asked about the support of Sandra Cunningham, conspicuously absent from the proceedings and RDC, Mrs. Flood was kind and gracious. This reporter however could not help but notice the lack of sparkle in her demeanor when touching on the sensitive topic. "We are of course disappointed that Mrs. Cunningham has supported another candidate against the party that her husband founded, but we recognize what she has been through and we recognize that it is her right to choose whomever she wants to support. This is America and everyone has the right to make their own decisions." ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 5797 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 09:52:03 Subject: Who's screwing who? Willie did not screw Sandy. Get the facts first. Who's coalition is supporting Willie? The Reform Democrats. The very coalition that Glenn founded. Who is screwing who? Who is Sandy supporting? Ron Bon. So again who is screwing who? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lucia Rosa posted Message 5798 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 09:57:01 Subject: Re: Healy camp paying bounty of $10 per sign? This is simply not true, nothing of the kind has been occurring, it is a pity that so many rumors have been circulating, we have heard the same rumor several times accusing the Manzo camp of paying $5 per Healy sign, we did not perpetuate the rumors or even dignify them because we believe the campaign should proceed on issues of substance rather than rumor or innuendo.: A source informs that the Healy for Mayor organization is paying a bounty of $10 for each of the competition's signs deinstalled and delivered. Will anybody confirm or deny this? Is the $10 for any of the candidates' signs? Or is it only for certain signs? Are any of the other organizations providing similar "entrepreneurial opportunities?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted Message 5799 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:06:33 Subject: WHO WOULD GLENN CHOOSE? Who? I say Willie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy For Mayor posted Message 5800 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:09:55 Subject: Healy For Mayor Dinner 9/14 Casino in the Park 7PM This evening 9/14/04 Healy For Mayor will have a dinner @ Casino in the Park, Jersey City, NJ @ 7PM. This is an excellent opportunity to be with motivated people who want to change Jersey City for the better, and improve the quality of life for all its citizens. Call Healy For Mayor at (201) 795-1166, or (201) 795-1660. Casino in the Park is located at Lincoln Park, Jersey City, New Jersey 201.333.1045 ***************** End Of Article ****************** The sad truth posted Message 5801 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:11:30 Subject: : Healy camp alledgedly paying bounty to have other canidates run with same name Alledgedly the Healy camp has promised promotions and cash for anyone with the same last name as some of the other canidates. Alledgedly there is already a Manzo and a Smith that they are paying and promising positions to if they will file for mayorand get on the ballot. I am sure the Attorney General would like to investigate this. This is pretty sad if they must do this to try and win a campaign. Jerry Healy is running for mayor stating he was a judge and that he is honest..... He is not even in office and he is lying already. Jerry Healy another sad case of of broken down, corrupt politician. : A source informs that the Healy for Mayor organization is paying a bounty of $10 for each of the competition's signs deinstalled and delivered. Will anybody confirm or deny this? Is the $10 for any of the candidates' signs? Or is it only for certain signs? Are any of the other organizations providing similar "entrepreneurial opportunities?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5802 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:14:59 Subject: Menendez hits a home run with Xanadu He cant wait for his next big hit.Remember everybody to Vote in November for Porky Pig.He still needs a few more big Hits before he is really on easy street.The inside boys will send you mailers on how to vote in order to keep the good times rolling for them all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dan posted Message 5803 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:16:23 Subject: Re: WHO WOULD GLENN CHOOSE? : Who? I say Willie. I say Manzo because he would have never become mayor or senator without him. If you say Willie why didn't he choose her to run for the assembly seat instead of Manzo. Because she is a weak canidate and he needed the white vote. Willie will never get a white vote because she has no use for WHITE HONKIES ***************** End Of Article ****************** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted Message 5804 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:19:30 Subject: Re: WHO WOULD GLENN CHOOSE? Sir. You are delusional. : : Who? I say Willie. : I say Manzo because he would have never become mayor or senator : without him. : If you say Willie why didn't he choose her to run for the assembly seat instead of Manzo. Because she is a weak canidate and he needed the white vote. Willie will never get a white vote because she has no use for WHITE HONKIES ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who Cares? posted Message 5805 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:21:36 Subject: Re: Healy For Mayor Dinner 9/14 Casino in the Park 7PM Nobody unless they want to see a burlesque show. : This evening 9/14/04 Healy For Mayor will have a dinner @ Casino in the Park, Jersey City, NJ @ 7PM. This is an excellent opportunity to be with motivated people who want to change Jersey City for the better, and improve the quality of life for all its citizens. Call Healy For Mayor at (201) 795-1166, or (201) 795-1660. Casino in the Park is located at Lincoln Park, Jersey City, New Jersey 201.333.1045 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy for posted Message 5806 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:30:42 Subject: : Healy For Mayor Dinner 9/14 Casino in the Park 7PM FREE ADMISSION TO ANYONE WITH THE LAST NAME SMITH,BUONOCORE,MANZO ,FLOOD : This evening 9/14/04 Healy For Mayor will have a dinner @ Casino in the Park, Jersey City, NJ @ 7PM. This is an excellent opportunity to be with motivated people who want to run for Mayor with the same last names of other canidates already running for Mayor of Jersey City. Screw the quality of life for all its citizens we just want to win the election so we can give all the jobs to people from outside Jersey City. Call Healy For Mayor at (201) 795-1166, or (201) 795-1660. Casino in the Park is located at Lincoln Park, Jersey City, New Jersey 201.333.1045 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 5807 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:31:46 Subject: FLOOD OF SUPPORT FLOOD OF SUPPORT Urban Times News September 3, 2004 - September 9, 2004 by Arnold Stovell A partly cloudy Monday seemed a little brighter this week as former Cunningham aide, Willie Flood held a press conference at the site of the Cunningham Ward F headquarters on Claremont Ave and Martin Luther King Drive. Ms. Flood addressed reporters and friends confirming her intention to run for Mayor of Jersey City in the November special elections. The enthusiastic crowd cheered her entrance as Ms. Flood arrived, shaking hands and greeting well-wishers with well-practiced grace. Dozens of supporters eagerly awaited her arrival in the crowded ward office. The Reverend Edward Allen was first introduced. He rose to the podium stoic yet enthused. The announcement of his withdrawl from the mayoral race came as a disappointment to many of those listening until he explained his actions in a rousing support for Mrs. Flood. "Several weeks ago I announced my decision to enter the mayor's race for Jersey City. I did so because the nightmare of our beloved mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's passing left a void in leadership. We could not afford to allow the work for which Glenn gave his life's blood be eroded by the poor leadership of the current administration. We thank God that there is someone, someone who we believe fills the bill for what we need here in Jersey City. So today I am very pleased to withdraw from the race and support Willie Flood." Applause punctuated the bitter-sweet revelation as the Reverend reminisced with the crowd, adding further clarity to his explanation. "I had the privilege in 1989 working with Bobby Jackson to go to Willie who was then a public school teacher in Jersey City and asked Willie when Maureen Collier our council-woman died in office if she would consider filling her unexpired term. Willie indicated so graciously that she would and did in fact serve out that term and did so with integrity and dedication. This time we're going to Willie Flood in a very similar situation to ask her if she would fill out the term, the unexpired term of Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. And when that term expires in May, we're going to be there to support Willie for her own term." Another vocal supporter was Jeff Dublin, newly elected representative of the Third Freeholder District. "It is an honor for me to be here today and support Mrs. Flood. Jersey City needs honest people to lead our government. I have known her as a teacher and Board of Education member, and I know that she will do what she can to make sure our children have a good education here in Jersey City. We know Mrs. Flood is going to be a wonderful mayor because she has it in her heart. She loves Jersey City and is not a person that hates anyone. She also has the strength to bring people together. And that's what this city needs, togetherness. I am throwing my support behind Mrs. Flood because it's the right thing to do. We need everyone in this room to work hard and to make sure that Glenn Cunningham's legacy is carried on come November 2nd. Today I'd like to introduce the next mayor of Jersey City, Mrs. Willie Flood." "It is not an easy job to do but I am ready, I am willing, healthy and able. My heart is really. happy to see so many people here today. I kept saying I won't do it, unless the polls showed that I can do it because Jersey City doesn't need anyone out there doing anything to upset this emotional community anymore." "But thank God he said go ahead, and I have you and your prayers to thank for it. My name is Willie Flood and I am running for the office of the Mayor of Jersey City." Thanking friends, family and supporters, Mrs. Flood explained her considerations in running for office. "I am offering you something that our late mayor gave to us every single day of his life - integrity, honesty and pride. He gave us stable taxes for homeowners. He gave us cleaner neighborhoods, and you know what else he created? He saw everybody talk about golden neighborhoods on the waterfront, but Glenn gave us golden neighborhoods right here and all over Jersey City. I offer you a City Hall where meanness is no more; where a geteven attitude is no more; where taxpayers money cannot pay off people. That money belongs to the taxpayer and I am going to make sure that every penny goes to the people of Jersey City. We will sit and know that Glenn D. Cunningham was about integrity. He was about honesty, and he was about pride. He also was got elected by the people to do the business for people of Jersey City. Not only did this City Council block things for the Mayor, they blocked things for the people of Jersey City, and Glenn was for the people of Jersey City." "Untold stress was placed upon Glenn D. Cunningham as he continued to toil as mayor of Jersey City against the City Council," she continued. "I pledge to you that program that he began, The Second Chance program, that I will continue that program and help the people who have previously gotten into some trouble, that feel the need for a second chance. He created the Second Chance program at the Jersey City Incinerator Authority, and I hear rumblings that it is going to be dismantled. But under my leadership and yours, because you're the people, we'll continue to give a second chance. I ask you to call me by name in your prayers." As she closed her remarks, Mrs. Flood introduced and thanked her husband and youngest son, Philip Flood and Philip Flood II. "I believe that every human being on this earth is important. We can do this together. My priority is to unite this city and its people. Therefore I'm calling on Acting Mayor Harvey Smith to drop out of the race and help heal this city. Lou Manzo, I am calling on you to drop out of this race, and continue to be a good assemblyman. And I'm also asking Ron Buonocore. Mr. Buonocore has been a very good chief. For the security of this city and this nation, I am asking him to drop out of this race. I am also asking Healy and Carol, drop out of the race, and let's heal this city. We are about bringing this synergy together, and you can help us, and they can help us. I want to thank you so much for coming and on November 2nd 2004, we will continue Glenn's legacy because the polls will be Flood-ed with you at the polling place and at the voting booth. I want you there voting for Flood. Let's bring integrity; let's bring honesty; let's bring pride, back to our City Hall. My name is Willie Flood and I am running for Mayor of Jersey City." Mrs. Flood stepped off the podium, shaking hands, greeting reporters, and ready to begin the political odyssey before her. Supporters moved to make Ms. Floods's acquaintance quickly, reassuring their allegiance, interrupting interviews for less than brief moments, while she cheerfully accommodated their intrusions. It was almost a nostalgic pleasantness, one not seen since the demise of beloved Mayor Cunningham. More than a few people mentioned their faith and excitement in her plan to re-install a citizen rather than crony-friendly administration. They were enthused and resolute in a mission that now seems almost holy. Their responses captured the new mood of hope in this mayoral race. These supporters seem determined to keep the tide of Flood supporters strong; to wash away the current administration, and to leave other candidates in their wake. Welcome to Jersey City mayoral race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pretty Lame posted Message 5808 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:37:19 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #11 of 100 These excuses keep getting more lame. What a crock. Why not just say what you mean....you don't want a gay guy being your mayor. Nuf said. : Lou Manzo's assembly district includes Bayonne. : If Lou Manzo is Mayor of Jersey City there always will be the temptation to put Bayonne first. : Jersey City can't afford a conflict of interest in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5809 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:50:18 Subject: Re: FLOOD OF SUPPORT Farrakhan & Flood perfect together. : FLOOD OF SUPPORT : Urban Times News : September 3, 2004 - September 9, 2004 : by Arnold Stovell : A partly cloudy Monday seemed a little brighter this week as former Cunningham aide, Willie Flood held a press conference at the site of the Cunningham Ward F headquarters on Claremont Ave and Martin Luther King Drive. Ms. Flood addressed reporters and friends confirming her intention to run for Mayor of Jersey City in the November special elections. : The enthusiastic crowd cheered her entrance as Ms. Flood arrived, shaking hands and greeting well-wishers with well-practiced grace. Dozens of supporters eagerly awaited her arrival in the crowded ward office. The Reverend Edward Allen was first introduced. He rose to the podium stoic yet enthused. The announcement of his withdrawl from the mayoral race came as a disappointment to many of those listening until he explained his actions in a rousing support for Mrs. Flood. : "Several weeks ago I announced my decision to enter the mayor's race for Jersey City. I did so because the nightmare of our beloved mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's passing left a void in leadership. We could not afford to allow the work for which Glenn gave his life's blood be eroded by the poor leadership of the current administration. We thank God that there is someone, someone who we believe fills the bill for what we need here in Jersey City. So today I am very pleased to withdraw from the race and support Willie Flood." : Applause punctuated the bitter-sweet revelation as the Reverend reminisced with the crowd, adding further clarity to his explanation. "I had the privilege in 1989 working with Bobby Jackson to go to Willie who was then a public school teacher in Jersey City and asked Willie when Maureen Collier our council-woman died in office if she would consider filling her unexpired term. Willie indicated so graciously that she would and did in fact serve out that term and did so with integrity and dedication. This time we're going to Willie Flood in a very similar situation to ask her if she would fill out the term, the unexpired term of Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. And when that term expires in May, we're going to be there to support Willie for her own term." : Another vocal supporter was Jeff Dublin, newly elected representative of the Third Freeholder District. "It is an honor for me to be here today and support Mrs. Flood. Jersey City needs honest people to lead our government. I have known her as a teacher and Board of Education member, and I know that she will do what she can to make sure our children have a good education here in Jersey City. We know Mrs. Flood is going to be a wonderful mayor because she has it in her heart. She loves Jersey City and is not a person that hates anyone. She also has the strength to bring people together. And that's what this city needs, togetherness. I am throwing my support behind Mrs. Flood because it's the right thing to do. We need everyone in this room to work hard and to make sure that Glenn Cunningham's legacy is carried on come November 2nd. Today I'd like to introduce the next mayor of Jersey City, Mrs. Willie Flood." : "It is not an easy job to do but I am ready, I am willing, healthy and able. My heart is really. happy to see so many people here today. I kept saying I won't do it, unless the polls showed that I can do it because Jersey City doesn't need anyone out there doing anything to upset this emotional community anymore." : "But thank God he said go ahead, and I have you and your prayers to thank for it. My name is Willie Flood and I am running for the office of the Mayor of Jersey City." : Thanking friends, family and supporters, Mrs. Flood explained her considerations in running for office. "I am offering you something that our late mayor gave to us every single day of his life - integrity, honesty and pride. He gave us stable taxes for homeowners. He gave us cleaner neighborhoods, and you know what else he created? He saw everybody talk about golden neighborhoods on the waterfront, but Glenn gave us golden neighborhoods right here and all over Jersey City. I offer you a City Hall where meanness is no more; where a geteven attitude is no more; where taxpayers money cannot pay off people. That money belongs to the taxpayer and I am going to make sure that every penny goes to the people of Jersey City. We will sit and know that Glenn D. Cunningham was about integrity. He was about honesty, and he was about pride. He also was got elected by the people to do the business for people of Jersey City. Not only did this City Council block things for the Mayor, they blocked things for the people of Jersey City, and Glenn was for the people of Jersey City." : "Untold stress was placed upon Glenn D. Cunningham as he continued to toil as mayor of Jersey City against the City Council," she continued. "I pledge to you that program that he began, The Second Chance program, that I will continue that program and help the people who have previously gotten into some trouble, that feel the need for a second chance. He created the Second Chance program at the Jersey City Incinerator Authority, and I hear rumblings that it is going to be dismantled. But under my leadership and yours, because you're the people, we'll continue to give a second chance. I ask you to call me by name in your prayers." : As she closed her remarks, Mrs. Flood introduced and thanked her husband and youngest son, Philip Flood and Philip Flood II. "I believe that every human being on this earth is important. We can do this together. My priority is to unite this city and its people. Therefore I'm calling on Acting Mayor Harvey Smith to drop out of the race and help heal this city. Lou Manzo, I am calling on you to drop out of this race, and continue to be a good assemblyman. And I'm also asking Ron Buonocore. Mr. Buonocore has been a very good chief. For the security of this city and this nation, I am asking him to drop out of this race. I am also asking Healy and Carol, drop out of the race, and let's heal this city. We are about bringing this synergy together, and you can help us, and they can help us. I want to thank you so much for coming and on November 2nd 2004, we will continue Glenn's legacy because the polls will be Flood-ed with you at the polling place and at the voting booth. I want you there voting for Flood. Let's bring integrity; let's bring honesty; let's bring pride, back to our City Hall. My name is Willie Flood and I am running for Mayor of Jersey City." : Mrs. Flood stepped off the podium, shaking hands, greeting reporters, and ready to begin the political odyssey before her. Supporters moved to make Ms. Floods's acquaintance quickly, reassuring their allegiance, interrupting interviews for less than brief moments, while she cheerfully accommodated their intrusions. It was almost a nostalgic pleasantness, one not seen since the demise of beloved Mayor Cunningham. More than a few people mentioned their faith and excitement in her plan to re-install a citizen rather than crony-friendly administration. They were enthused and resolute in a mission that now seems almost holy. Their responses captured the new mood of hope in this mayoral race. These supporters seem determined to keep the tide of Flood supporters strong; to wash away the current administration, and to leave other candidates in their wake. Welcome to Jersey City mayoral race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5810 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:50:40 Subject: Will Healy keep his clothes on Tonight? I hear he has the bar vote all locked up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ding Dong posted Message 5811 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:52:01 Subject: Re: Will Healy keep his clothes on Tonight? PEE WEE HEALY FOR MAYOR ! : I hear he has the bar vote all locked up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5812 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:54:27 Subject: Re: FLOOD OF SUPPORT Sharpton & Flood perfect together. : Farrakhan & Flood perfect together. : : FLOOD OF SUPPORT : : Urban Times News : : September 3, 2004 - September 9, 2004 : : by Arnold Stovell : : A partly cloudy Monday seemed a little brighter this week as former Cunningham aide, Willie Flood held a press conference at the site of the Cunningham Ward F headquarters on Claremont Ave and Martin Luther King Drive. Ms. Flood addressed reporters and friends confirming her intention to run for Mayor of Jersey City in the November special elections. : : The enthusiastic crowd cheered her entrance as Ms. Flood arrived, shaking hands and greeting well-wishers with well-practiced grace. Dozens of supporters eagerly awaited her arrival in the crowded ward office. The Reverend Edward Allen was first introduced. He rose to the podium stoic yet enthused. The announcement of his withdrawl from the mayoral race came as a disappointment to many of those listening until he explained his actions in a rousing support for Mrs. Flood. : : "Several weeks ago I announced my decision to enter the mayor's race for Jersey City. I did so because the nightmare of our beloved mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's passing left a void in leadership. We could not afford to allow the work for which Glenn gave his life's blood be eroded by the poor leadership of the current administration. We thank God that there is someone, someone who we believe fills the bill for what we need here in Jersey City. So today I am very pleased to withdraw from the race and support Willie Flood." : : Applause punctuated the bitter-sweet revelation as the Reverend reminisced with the crowd, adding further clarity to his explanation. "I had the privilege in 1989 working with Bobby Jackson to go to Willie who was then a public school teacher in Jersey City and asked Willie when Maureen Collier our council-woman died in office if she would consider filling her unexpired term. Willie indicated so graciously that she would and did in fact serve out that term and did so with integrity and dedication. This time we're going to Willie Flood in a very similar situation to ask her if she would fill out the term, the unexpired term of Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. And when that term expires in May, we're going to be there to support Willie for her own term." : : Another vocal supporter was Jeff Dublin, newly elected representative of the Third Freeholder District. "It is an honor for me to be here today and support Mrs. Flood. Jersey City needs honest people to lead our government. I have known her as a teacher and Board of Education member, and I know that she will do what she can to make sure our children have a good education here in Jersey City. We know Mrs. Flood is going to be a wonderful mayor because she has it in her heart. She loves Jersey City and is not a person that hates anyone. She also has the strength to bring people together. And that's what this city needs, togetherness. I am throwing my support behind Mrs. Flood because it's the right thing to do. We need everyone in this room to work hard and to make sure that Glenn Cunningham's legacy is carried on come November 2nd. Today I'd like to introduce the next mayor of Jersey City, Mrs. Willie Flood." : : "It is not an easy job to do but I am ready, I am willing, healthy and able. My heart is really. happy to see so many people here today. I kept saying I won't do it, unless the polls showed that I can do it because Jersey City doesn't need anyone out there doing anything to upset this emotional community anymore." : : "But thank God he said go ahead, and I have you and your prayers to thank for it. My name is Willie Flood and I am running for the office of the Mayor of Jersey City." : : Thanking friends, family and supporters, Mrs. Flood explained her considerations in running for office. "I am offering you something that our late mayor gave to us every single day of his life - integrity, honesty and pride. He gave us stable taxes for homeowners. He gave us cleaner neighborhoods, and you know what else he created? He saw everybody talk about golden neighborhoods on the waterfront, but Glenn gave us golden neighborhoods right here and all over Jersey City. I offer you a City Hall where meanness is no more; where a geteven attitude is no more; where taxpayers money cannot pay off people. That money belongs to the taxpayer and I am going to make sure that every penny goes to the people of Jersey City. We will sit and know that Glenn D. Cunningham was about integrity. He was about honesty, and he was about pride. He also was got elected by the people to do the business for people of Jersey City. Not only did this City Council block things for the Mayor, they blocked things for the people of Jersey City, and Glenn was for the people of Jersey City." : : "Untold stress was placed upon Glenn D. Cunningham as he continued to toil as mayor of Jersey City against the City Council," she continued. "I pledge to you that program that he began, The Second Chance program, that I will continue that program and help the people who have previously gotten into some trouble, that feel the need for a second chance. He created the Second Chance program at the Jersey City Incinerator Authority, and I hear rumblings that it is going to be dismantled. But under my leadership and yours, because you're the people, we'll continue to give a second chance. I ask you to call me by name in your prayers." : : As she closed her remarks, Mrs. Flood introduced and thanked her husband and youngest son, Philip Flood and Philip Flood II. "I believe that every human being on this earth is important. We can do this together. My priority is to unite this city and its people. Therefore I'm calling on Acting Mayor Harvey Smith to drop out of the race and help heal this city. Lou Manzo, I am calling on you to drop out of this race, and continue to be a good assemblyman. And I'm also asking Ron Buonocore. Mr. Buonocore has been a very good chief. For the security of this city and this nation, I am asking him to drop out of this race. I am also asking Healy and Carol, drop out of the race, and let's heal this city. We are about bringing this synergy together, and you can help us, and they can help us. I want to thank you so much for coming and on November 2nd 2004, we will continue Glenn's legacy because the polls will be Flood-ed with you at the polling place and at the voting booth. I want you there voting for Flood. Let's bring integrity; let's bring honesty; let's bring pride, back to our City Hall. My name is Willie Flood and I am running for Mayor of Jersey City." : : Mrs. Flood stepped off the podium, shaking hands, greeting reporters, and ready to begin the political odyssey before her. Supporters moved to make Ms. Floods's acquaintance quickly, reassuring their allegiance, interrupting interviews for less than brief moments, while she cheerfully accommodated their intrusions. It was almost a nostalgic pleasantness, one not seen since the demise of beloved Mayor Cunningham. More than a few people mentioned their faith and excitement in her plan to re-install a citizen rather than crony-friendly administration. They were enthused and resolute in a mission that now seems almost holy. Their responses captured the new mood of hope in this mayoral race. These supporters seem determined to keep the tide of Flood supporters strong; to wash away the current administration, and to leave other candidates in their wake. Welcome to Jersey City mayoral race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dan posted Message 5813 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 10:56:18 Subject: Re: WHO WOULD GLENN CHOOSE? Answer the question...Why didn't Glenn choose her to be the assembly canidate instead of Manzo ? : Sir. You are delusional. : : : Who? I say Willie. : : I say Manzo because he would have never become mayor or senator : : without him. : : If you say Willie why didn't he choose her to run for the assembly seat instead of Manzo. Because she is a weak canidate and he needed the white vote. Willie will never get a white vote because she has no use for WHITE HONKIES ***************** End Of Article ****************** Greenville Girl posted Message 5814 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:04:33 Subject: Re: : Healy camp alledgedly paying bounty to have other canidates run with same name Isn't that illegal ? Any thoughts ? : Alledgedly the Healy camp has promised promotions and cash for anyone with the same last name as some of the other canidates. Alledgedly there is already a Manzo and a Smith that they are paying and promising positions to if they will file for mayorand get on the ballot. I am sure the Attorney General would like to investigate this. : This is pretty sad if they must do this to try and win a campaign. Jerry Healy is running for mayor stating he was a judge and that he is honest..... He is not even in office and he is lying already. Jerry Healy another sad case of of broken down, corrupt politician. : : A source informs that the Healy for Mayor organization is paying a bounty of $10 for each of the competition's signs deinstalled and delivered. Will anybody confirm or deny this? Is the $10 for any of the candidates' signs? Or is it only for certain signs? Are any of the other organizations providing similar "entrepreneurial opportunities?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Enforcer posted Message 5815 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:19:14 Subject: Re: Healy camp paying bounty of $10 per sign? I believe the $10 is only for Computercraft signs. So far Healy's camp has... ZERO!!!! Come on get real, for you to even suggest such low life nonsense and then keep asking if it's true. I think there is a bounty if we can get Manzo's mother on a TV commercial and tell us that Screwy Louie was always her favorite son, then bash her other son. Wonder if Ronnie made a deal to come quietly since he was tipping off other members of his family with rigged Stocked tips, in order that they not go to the slammer also? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Legman Larry posted Message 5816 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:22:05 Subject: Re: Healy For Mayor Dinner 9/14 Casino in the Park 7PM Healy's PR woman has nice gams though. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5817 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:23:45 Subject: Re: WHO WOULD GLENN CHOOSE? : Who? I say Willie. I would say Glenn would a colder place to where he is now! ***************** End Of Article ****************** lajala posted Message 5818 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:25:03 Subject: Re: Will Healy keep his clothes on Tonight? : : like i have said so many times beforte cant you think of anything else to say!! its old and tiring!Go Jerry! : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** kjlljkj posted Message 5819 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:26:51 Subject: Re: : Healy For Mayor Dinner 9/14 Casino in the Park 7PM FREE ADMISSION TO ANYONE WITH THE LAST NAME SMITH,BUONOCORE,MANZO ,FLOOD : :idiot!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ebonics posted Message 5820 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:29:30 Subject: Jive Master D What you wrote and what you said come out like this: Obviously ya' gots no life , goathomey, o' job fo' dat matta' if ya' had enough time t'sit and re-scribble dis whole article. Also, ya' gots'ta know o' be real interested in de African American culture t'do dat. Man! ah' dig it. You's wanna be likes us. Anyway. Slap mah fro! Stick t'de issues. Pahtna'! Preach it loud, bruddah!! Right on! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 5821 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:37:55 Subject: Saw Glenn today. He was with Elvis. They were both eating soul food and working on a second coronary. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hella good posted Message 5822 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:38:55 Subject: Lipski for Mayor Sandy Cunningham will be endorsing Steve Lipski for mayor due to Ron Bunocore withdrawing fron the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FRIED CHICKEN posted Message 5823 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:40:07 Subject: Re: Saw Glenn today. I bet the soul food was from the Real Deal He was with Elvis. They were both eating soul food and working on a second coronary. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lady Godiva posted Message 5824 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:40:40 Subject: The human body .. is a beautiful thing. Except when you are a middle aged man with a beer belly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 5825 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:44:04 Subject: Who dares .. masquerade as me ?! A pox upon you and your progeny. BTW - Thanks for the kind words Phil, Jr. I'll keep a chair warm for you right next to Glenn. ***************** End Of Article ****************** fart posted Message 5826 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:44:41 Subject: Re: Lipski for Mayor Sandy doen't know what's going on because she & Drayton are doing the nasty. He rocks her world. : Sandy Cunningham will be endorsing Steve Lipski for mayor due to Ron Bunocore withdrawing fron the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5827 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:50:32 Subject: Sandy I attempted to console Sandy after the passing of Saint Glenn. Unfortunately, Gene Drayton answered the door and wouldn't let me in. He said they were busy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 5828 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 11:56:28 Subject: Sympathy for the Devil Please allow me to introduce myself I’m a man of wealth and taste I’ve been around for a long, long year Stole many a man’s soul and faith And I was ’round when jesus christ Had his moment of doubt and pain Made damn sure that pilate Washed his hands and sealed his fate Pleased to meet you Hope you guess my name But what’s puzzling you Is the nature of my game I stuck around st. petersburg When I saw it was a time for a change Killed the czar and his ministers Anastasia screamed in vain I rode a tank Held a general’s rank When the blitzkrieg raged And the bodies stank Pleased to meet you Hope you guess my name, oh yeah Ah, what’s puzzling you Is the nature of my game, oh yeah I watched with glee While your kings and queens Fought for ten decades For the gods they made I shouted out, Who killed the kennedys? When after all It was you and me Let me please introduce myself I’m a man of wealth and taste And I laid traps for troubadours Who get killed before they reached bombay Pleased to meet you Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah But what’s puzzling you Is the nature of my game, oh yeah, get down, baby Pleased to meet you Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah But what’s confusing you Is just the nature of my game Just as every cop is a criminal And all the sinners saints As heads is tails Just call me lucifer ’cause I’m in need of some restraint So if you meet me Have some courtesy Have some sympathy, and some taste Use all your well-learned politesse Or I’ll lay your soul to waste, um yeah Pleased to meet you Hope you guessed my name, um yeah But what’s puzzling you Is the nature of my game ***************** End Of Article ****************** FLOOD FOR MAYOR posted Message 5829 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 12:21:20 Subject: MEET WILLIE & POSSIE COME IN TOMMOROW AT THE REAL DEAL BARBEQUE PIT WHEN WILLIE FLOOD, AL SHARPTON AND LUIS FARRAKHAN FROM THE NATION OF ISLAM WILL BE TAKING PHOTOS AND SIGNING AUTOGRAPGHS. WILLIE FLOOD WILL BE ALSO CALLING GEORGE BUSH TO DROP OUT OF THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE. (NO HONKIES ALLOWED) ***************** End Of Article ****************** can anybody join? posted Message 5830 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:04:48 Subject: Gaughan founded the Irish for Healy Club. Do you have to be gaylick to get in? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Irish for McGreevey posted Message 5831 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:09:13 Subject: Gaughan is very enlightened. : Do you have to be gaylick to get in? I should say not. With the Irish for McGreevey a heblew was one of the boys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So So posted Message 5832 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:09:35 Subject: Re: Gaughan founded the Irish for Healy Club. I thought he founded drunks for Healy : Do you have to be gaylick to get in? ***************** End Of Article ****************** So So posted Message 5833 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:10:29 Subject: Re: Gaughan is very enlightened. i thought he founded drunks for McGreevey : : Do you have to be gaylick to get in? : I should say not. With the Irish for McGreevey a heblew was one of the boys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ron4Mayor posted Message 5834 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:12:36 Subject: Re: Lipski for Mayor Ron will never withdraw, there is no one running who has the intellegence to do so. Steve Flipski is a lier, not a man of his word, a person that you cannot trust, he is a looser!. How dare anyone suggesting that a man who has allowed his own ward to turn to crap be allowed to do the same to the city. Flipski has increased crime, prostitution, drug dealing, and slum lords. Steve read this "YOU ARE A JOKE!" ***************** End Of Article ****************** klr posted Message 5835 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:15:17 Subject: Ray Manzo being investigated He will spill the beans. Bye Bye Buddy Jerry Tommy Billy ***************** End Of Article ****************** TheTRUTH posted Message 5836 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:17:28 Subject: Re: Gaughan founded the Irish for Healy Club. I hear that Jersey City is using them both to play Rudolph this Christmas! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 5837 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:20:02 Subject: Re: Ray Manzo being investigated MAKE IT CLEAR HE IS NOT RELATED TO LOU! : He will spill the beans. Bye Bye Buddy Jerry Tommy Billy ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo4Mayor posted Message 5838 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:22:40 Subject: Re: Healy For Mayor Dinner 9/14 Casino in the Park 7PM : : : This evening 9/14/04 Healy For Mayor will have a liquid dinner @ Casino in the Park, Jersey City, NJ @ 7PM. Bring your own brown paper bag! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Painter posted Message 5839 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:24:54 Subject: Re: Hey Painter And now for my next act....... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil, Jr posted Message 5840 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:28:21 Subject: Re: Who dares .. Is that a threat? Don't forget I am a computer tech. I can find out who you are. : masquerade as me ?! A pox upon you and your progeny. : BTW - Thanks for the kind words Phil, Jr. I'll keep a chair warm for you right next to Glenn. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jjjjjjj posted Message 5841 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:41:27 Subject: Re: Healy For Mayor Dinner 9/14 Casino in the Park 7PM : : : : : and thursday manzo will be having his. bring all the covicts and coke heads you know. They will fit right in!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Breaking News posted Message 5842 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:53:07 Subject: Flodd to file for Senate Willie Flood is announcing she will be making a run at senate also since DeSoto has dropped out of the race. Just think of this : Mayor Flood Senator Flood ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth Watcher posted Message 5843 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:53:16 Subject: Satan is Dolan in Drag Jay Dolan has recently been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic and will most certainly be checked into Meadowview once the guys with the butterfly nets catch up with him. His rhetoric goes beyond the obvious loss of sanity to a level of delusion only seen in clinical cases of paranoia accompanied by split personality syndrom. : Farrakhan & Flood perfect together. : : FLOOD OF SUPPORT : : Urban Times News : : September 3, 2004 - September 9, 2004 : : by Arnold Stovell : : A partly cloudy Monday seemed a little brighter this week as former Cunningham aide, Willie Flood held a press conference at the site of the Cunningham Ward F headquarters on Claremont Ave and Martin Luther King Drive. Ms. Flood addressed reporters and friends confirming her intention to run for Mayor of Jersey City in the November special elections. : : The enthusiastic crowd cheered her entrance as Ms. Flood arrived, shaking hands and greeting well-wishers with well-practiced grace. Dozens of supporters eagerly awaited her arrival in the crowded ward office. The Reverend Edward Allen was first introduced. He rose to the podium stoic yet enthused. The announcement of his withdrawl from the mayoral race came as a disappointment to many of those listening until he explained his actions in a rousing support for Mrs. Flood. : : "Several weeks ago I announced my decision to enter the mayor's race for Jersey City. I did so because the nightmare of our beloved mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's passing left a void in leadership. We could not afford to allow the work for which Glenn gave his life's blood be eroded by the poor leadership of the current administration. We thank God that there is someone, someone who we believe fills the bill for what we need here in Jersey City. So today I am very pleased to withdraw from the race and support Willie Flood." : : Applause punctuated the bitter-sweet revelation as the Reverend reminisced with the crowd, adding further clarity to his explanation. "I had the privilege in 1989 working with Bobby Jackson to go to Willie who was then a public school teacher in Jersey City and asked Willie when Maureen Collier our council-woman died in office if she would consider filling her unexpired term. Willie indicated so graciously that she would and did in fact serve out that term and did so with integrity and dedication. This time we're going to Willie Flood in a very similar situation to ask her if she would fill out the term, the unexpired term of Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. And when that term expires in May, we're going to be there to support Willie for her own term." : : Another vocal supporter was Jeff Dublin, newly elected representative of the Third Freeholder District. "It is an honor for me to be here today and support Mrs. Flood. Jersey City needs honest people to lead our government. I have known her as a teacher and Board of Education member, and I know that she will do what she can to make sure our children have a good education here in Jersey City. We know Mrs. Flood is going to be a wonderful mayor because she has it in her heart. She loves Jersey City and is not a person that hates anyone. She also has the strength to bring people together. And that's what this city needs, togetherness. I am throwing my support behind Mrs. Flood because it's the right thing to do. We need everyone in this room to work hard and to make sure that Glenn Cunningham's legacy is carried on come November 2nd. Today I'd like to introduce the next mayor of Jersey City, Mrs. Willie Flood." : : "It is not an easy job to do but I am ready, I am willing, healthy and able. My heart is really. happy to see so many people here today. I kept saying I won't do it, unless the polls showed that I can do it because Jersey City doesn't need anyone out there doing anything to upset this emotional community anymore." : : "But thank God he said go ahead, and I have you and your prayers to thank for it. My name is Willie Flood and I am running for the office of the Mayor of Jersey City." : : Thanking friends, family and supporters, Mrs. Flood explained her considerations in running for office. "I am offering you something that our late mayor gave to us every single day of his life - integrity, honesty and pride. He gave us stable taxes for homeowners. He gave us cleaner neighborhoods, and you know what else he created? He saw everybody talk about golden neighborhoods on the waterfront, but Glenn gave us golden neighborhoods right here and all over Jersey City. I offer you a City Hall where meanness is no more; where a geteven attitude is no more; where taxpayers money cannot pay off people. That money belongs to the taxpayer and I am going to make sure that every penny goes to the people of Jersey City. We will sit and know that Glenn D. Cunningham was about integrity. He was about honesty, and he was about pride. He also was got elected by the people to do the business for people of Jersey City. Not only did this City Council block things for the Mayor, they blocked things for the people of Jersey City, and Glenn was for the people of Jersey City." : : "Untold stress was placed upon Glenn D. Cunningham as he continued to toil as mayor of Jersey City against the City Council," she continued. "I pledge to you that program that he began, The Second Chance program, that I will continue that program and help the people who have previously gotten into some trouble, that feel the need for a second chance. He created the Second Chance program at the Jersey City Incinerator Authority, and I hear rumblings that it is going to be dismantled. But under my leadership and yours, because you're the people, we'll continue to give a second chance. I ask you to call me by name in your prayers." : : As she closed her remarks, Mrs. Flood introduced and thanked her husband and youngest son, Philip Flood and Philip Flood II. "I believe that every human being on this earth is important. We can do this together. My priority is to unite this city and its people. Therefore I'm calling on Acting Mayor Harvey Smith to drop out of the race and help heal this city. Lou Manzo, I am calling on you to drop out of this race, and continue to be a good assemblyman. And I'm also asking Ron Buonocore. Mr. Buonocore has been a very good chief. For the security of this city and this nation, I am asking him to drop out of this race. I am also asking Healy and Carol, drop out of the race, and let's heal this city. We are about bringing this synergy together, and you can help us, and they can help us. I want to thank you so much for coming and on November 2nd 2004, we will continue Glenn's legacy because the polls will be Flood-ed with you at the polling place and at the voting booth. I want you there voting for Flood. Let's bring integrity; let's bring honesty; let's bring pride, back to our City Hall. My name is Willie Flood and I am running for Mayor of Jersey City." : : Mrs. Flood stepped off the podium, shaking hands, greeting reporters, and ready to begin the political odyssey before her. Supporters moved to make Ms. Floods's acquaintance quickly, reassuring their allegiance, interrupting interviews for less than brief moments, while she cheerfully accommodated their intrusions. It was almost a nostalgic pleasantness, one not seen since the demise of beloved Mayor Cunningham. More than a few people mentioned their faith and excitement in her plan to re-install a citizen rather than crony-friendly administration. They were enthused and resolute in a mission that now seems almost holy. Their responses captured the new mood of hope in this mayoral race. These supporters seem determined to keep the tide of Flood supporters strong; to wash away the current administration, and to leave other candidates in their wake. Welcome to Jersey City mayoral race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** tiny tim posted Message 5844 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:53:26 Subject: Don't be mean! Alcoholism is a disease! : i thought he founded drunks for McGreevey : : : Do you have to be gaylick to get in? : : I should say not. With the Irish for McGreevey a heblew was one of the boys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Learn to Spell posted Message 5845 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:54:28 Subject: Re: Flodd to file for Senate Who is FLODD???... another Jay Dolan Typo.. What an ass. : Willie Flood is announcing she will be making a run at senate also since DeSoto has dropped out of the race. Just think of : this : Mayor Flood : Senator Flood ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who cares posted Message 5846 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 13:57:38 Subject: Ray Manzo is not related to Lou....idiot Let's assume the writer of the previous post has some background in JC and knows the people here. Then his post is an obvious attempt to paint Lou with the same brush used to paint other JC criminals. Only problem is that Ray is no relation to Lou. Note to the writer....if you want to use this tactic....try using his brother RON's legal problems as ammunition for your attacks. : He will spill the beans. Bye Bye Buddy Jerry Tommy Billy ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5847 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 14:22:41 Subject: Re: Don't be mean! : Alcoholism is a disease! So is Homosexuality ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betcha didn't know that! posted Message 5848 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 14:55:56 Subject: Harvey's Heights HQ next to a fried chicken place : : I bet the soul food was from the Real Deal : He was with Elvis. They were both eating soul food and working on a second coronary. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5849 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 15:26:41 Subject: Re: Flodd to file for Senate Way to go Willie you are the best man for those jobs.And I know how to spell Mr. Willie Flood. And Jay is not my first name jacka$$. : Who is FLODD???... another Jay Dolan Typo.. What an ass. : : Willie Flood is announcing she will be making a run at senate also since DeSoto has dropped out of the race. Just think of : : this : Mayor Flood : : Senator Flood ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5850 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 15:28:52 Subject: Re: MEET WILLIE & POSSIE Willie really shouldn't want those guys on his side. : COME IN TOMMOROW AT THE REAL DEAL BARBEQUE PIT WHEN WILLIE FLOOD, AL SHARPTON AND LUIS FARRAKHAN FROM THE NATION OF ISLAM WILL BE TAKING PHOTOS AND SIGNING AUTOGRAPGHS. : WILLIE FLOOD WILL BE ALSO CALLING GEORGE BUSH TO DROP OUT OF THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE. : (NO HONKIES ALLOWED) ***************** End Of Article ****************** jamie posted Message 5851 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 16:08:08 Subject: Re: Ray Manzo being investigated : He will spill the beans. Bye Bye Buddy Jerry Tommy Billy ***************** End Of Article ****************** jayee posted Message 5852 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 16:12:43 Subject: Re: Ray Manzo being investigated WHY IS HE BEING INVESTIGATED FOR ? USING HIS RIGHT TO CHALLENGE ALL THE CANDIDATES FOR MAYOR.HOW STUPID IS THAT HE HAS THE SAME RIGHTS AS ANY AMERICAN TO RUN FOR PUBLIC OPFFICE. THE CRIMINAL GERRY MC CANN DID . AND HE WAS IN PRISON. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 5853 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 16:14:12 Subject: Breaking Bull$hit Everytime someone posts breaking news here it's wrong. Give us a break !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5854 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 16:16:57 Subject: Too many Manzo's !!! Lou, Ron, Mike, Ray .... Mama mia !! I'm so confused !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 5855 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 16:25:34 Subject: Humor ,,,. is often lost on those with low IQ's. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 5856 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 16:49:49 Subject: Re: Ray Manzo being investigated BEING PAID AND PROMISED POSITIONS BY BUD & CRAIG TO GET ON THE BALLOT. PEOPLE WERE TOLD THEY WERE SIGNING A PETITION FOR JERRY HEALY WHEN IN FACT IT WAS A BLANK PETITION BEING USED FOR ANOTHER MANZO TO GET IN THE RACE AGAINST LOU TO TRY TO BREAK UP HIS VOTE. THE AG IS LOOKING INTO THIS AS WE SPEAK. SHAME ON JERRY HEALY FOR PUTTING THESE GUYS UP TO THIS.: : WHY IS HE BEING INVESTIGATED FOR ? USING HIS RIGHT TO CHALLENGE ALL THE CANDIDATES FOR MAYOR.HOW STUPID IS THAT : HE HAS THE SAME RIGHTS AS ANY AMERICAN TO RUN FOR PUBLIC OPFFICE. : THE CRIMINAL GERRY MC CANN DID . AND HE WAS IN PRISON. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where do I know this from? posted Message 5857 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 18:55:39 Subject: Re: Sympathy for the Devil If your gonna quote songs, please at the very least include the title and recording artist. : Please allow me to introduce myself : I’m a man of wealth and taste : I’ve been around for a long, long year : Stole many a man’s soul and faith : And I was ’round when jesus christ : Had his moment of doubt and pain : Made damn sure that pilate : Washed his hands and sealed his fate : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guess my name : But what’s puzzling you : Is the nature of my game : I stuck around st. petersburg : When I saw it was a time for a change : Killed the czar and his ministers : Anastasia screamed in vain : I rode a tank : Held a general’s rank : When the blitzkrieg raged : And the bodies stank : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guess my name, oh yeah : Ah, what’s puzzling you : Is the nature of my game, oh yeah : I watched with glee : While your kings and queens : Fought for ten decades : For the gods they made : I shouted out, : Who killed the kennedys? : When after all : It was you and me : Let me please introduce myself : I’m a man of wealth and taste : And I laid traps for troubadours : Who get killed before they reached bombay : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah : But what’s puzzling you : Is the nature of my game, oh yeah, get down, baby : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah : But what’s confusing you : Is just the nature of my game : Just as every cop is a criminal : And all the sinners saints : As heads is tails : Just call me lucifer : ’cause I’m in need of some restraint : So if you meet me : Have some courtesy : Have some sympathy, and some taste : Use all your well-learned politesse : Or I’ll lay your soul to waste, um yeah : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guessed my name, um yeah : But what’s puzzling you : Is the nature of my game ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos against bigotry posted Message 5858 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 19:02:46 Subject: Re: Don't be mean! So is Bigotry! ***************** End Of Article ****************** A CERTAIN SOMEBODY IS FILING SEXUAL HARRASMENT CHARGES ON MAYOR HARVEY SMITH posted Message 5859 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 19:36:40 Subject: BREAKING NEWS WIN OR LOOSE UNCLE HARVEY IS IN SOME DEEP S_HIT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Guns Roses posted Message 5860 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 21:37:50 Subject: Re: Sympathy for the Devil Finally figured it out with the help of Leoslyrics.com. This song is from "Interview with the Vampire" and was at the end of the film when Lestat was driving across the Golden Gate Bridge. That's what I suspected but I wasn't sure. : Please allow me to introduce myself : I’m a man of wealth and taste : I’ve been around for a long, long year : Stole many a man’s soul and faith : And I was ’round when jesus christ : Had his moment of doubt and pain : Made damn sure that pilate : Washed his hands and sealed his fate : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guess my name : But what’s puzzling you : Is the nature of my game : I stuck around st. petersburg : When I saw it was a time for a change : Killed the czar and his ministers : Anastasia screamed in vain : I rode a tank : Held a general’s rank : When the blitzkrieg raged : And the bodies stank : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guess my name, oh yeah : Ah, what’s puzzling you : Is the nature of my game, oh yeah : I watched with glee : While your kings and queens : Fought for ten decades : For the gods they made : I shouted out, : Who killed the kennedys? : When after all : It was you and me : Let me please introduce myself : I’m a man of wealth and taste : And I laid traps for troubadours : Who get killed before they reached bombay : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah : But what’s puzzling you : Is the nature of my game, oh yeah, get down, baby : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah : But what’s confusing you : Is just the nature of my game : Just as every cop is a criminal : And all the sinners saints : As heads is tails : Just call me lucifer : ’cause I’m in need of some restraint : So if you meet me : Have some courtesy : Have some sympathy, and some taste : Use all your well-learned politesse : Or I’ll lay your soul to waste, um yeah : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guessed my name, um yeah : But what’s puzzling you : Is the nature of my game ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 5861 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 22:29:33 Subject: Yikes !!! The song isn't that old is it ? Sympathy for the Devil by the Rolling Stones. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Church Lady posted Message 5862 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 22:31:58 Subject: Could it be ... Lou Manzo ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5863 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 22:39:27 Subject: Re: Don't be mean! : So is Bigotry! Learnn the meaning ...Bigotry is against other races. Homosexuality is a SIN AGAINST GOD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5864 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 23:00:44 Subject: Re: Could it be ... : Lou Manzo ? or Roger Jones? Smith is a pu$$y and would do anything to be Mayor. So $ucking C0ck wouldn't shock me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 5865 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2004 at 23:58:48 Subject: My son .. please say 10 Hail Mary's and call me in the morning. ***************** End Of Article ****************** What's your # posted Message 5866 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 00:25:56 Subject: Re: My son .. : please say 10 Hail Mary's and call me in the morning. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL funny satire on the guy thing but this is true. posted Message 5867 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 00:30:19 Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Two women are suing. One black one white. It's not about color with piggy boy Smith. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's The Truth Ruth posted Message 5868 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 00:50:29 Subject: The Flood Smoke Screen OK people....Flood cannot win the Mayors seat ...a fact...the scheme to run her was cooked up by Drayton, Carwell, Jackson, Mccann, Manzo, Sandy, and the UTN posse, to pull votes from Harvey Smith...even tho these Cunningham leftovers swear that Smith has no support in the black community they do not want him to be the only black horse in the race... IF HE IS they're afraid the community might do the right thing ..."continue the legacy" of having an African American STILL in office...after trying to portray him as an Uncle Tom it would kill them if the black commuinity came together behind Harvey to keep the legacy going...people wake up! Harvey Smith is BLACK! ...the ones who were so proud of electing the first African Amrican mayor are the ones now trying to divide that community against another black man....Cunningham's victory was not his alone...it was a legacy for a people - Harvey Smith is one of those people...anyone who engages in politics of division in thier own community should be ashamedof themselves... willie i thought you were better then that.....i guess i was wrong ***************** End Of Article ****************** Or is your staff working late? posted Message 5869 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 01:00:16 Subject: STAN is that you? Just wondering. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truthless and Ruthless posted Message 5870 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 06:37:49 Subject: Re: The Flood Smoke Screen ::: I cannot and have not agreed with the tactics of Drayton, Cardwell, Jackson, McCann, Manzo, Sandy, et al of late but this is one I do agree with them on. Harvey is a racist, argumentative, egomaniac. In a city plagued by financial woes, he continues to hire friends and family as well as give out hefty pay increases to the same. He is laying claim to hiring new police that will be on the street early next year, a class that was started when our beloved Glenn was in alive and in office. WAKE UP PEOPLE! : OK people....Flood cannot win the Mayors seat ...a fact...the scheme to run her was cooked up by Drayton, Carwell, Jackson, Mccann, Manzo, Sandy, and the UTN posse, to pull votes from Harvey Smith...even tho these Cunningham leftovers swear that Smith has no support in the black community they do not want him to be the only black horse in the race... IF HE IS they're afraid the community might do the right thing ..."continue the legacy" of having an African American STILL in office...after trying to portray him as an Uncle Tom it would kill them if the black commuinity came together behind Harvey to keep the legacy going...people wake up! Harvey Smith is BLACK! ...the ones who were so proud of electing the first African Amrican mayor are the ones now trying to divide that community against another black man....Cunningham's victory was not his alone...it was a legacy for a people - Harvey Smith is one of those people...anyone who engages in politics of division in thier own community should be ashamedof themselves... willie i thought you were better then that.....i guess i was wrong ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlackWidow posted Message 5871 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 07:03:18 Subject: Healy Party a success,He kept his clothes on all night there is hope for the runner up in the mayoral race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mamamia posted Message 5872 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 07:26:29 Subject: Big worry for Gaughan Meningitis disease reported in Wall, NJ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5873 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 07:45:12 Subject: Drunks for Healy had a ball last night Not one was sober by 11.O Clock.All wanted to know what they were there for in the first place.Only in Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** White Widower posted Message 5874 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 07:47:40 Subject: Re: Healy Party a success,He kept his clothes on all night ::Unfortunately his zipper was down & part of his shirt tail was sticking out all night. : there is hope for the runner up in the mayoral race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5875 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 07:52:52 Subject: Who won best Dress at Healys Drunks for Healy Rally/ I hear it was a tie between Tom DeGise & Tom Gaynor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 5876 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 08:14:35 Subject: Thank you for putting my name along side Tom DeGise That is a true Honor.Tom DeGise is the best thing to happen to Hudson County politics.Give me Good Government anytime.Now if the rest will follow along that would be just super. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5877 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 08:26:11 Subject: Steve Lipski Announces Run for Mayor of Jersey City Good afternoon and boy is it a good afternoon.Today, I, Steve Lipski, declare my candidacy as the reform candidate for Mayor in the upcoming special election, Tuesday, November 2. I'm running for Mayor because as a life long Jersey City resident I know and understand the residents of Jersey City demand straight talk and common sense. I chose this location, Create Charter High School, a school I opened 3 years ago, to announce I am running for Mayor. It is here that we are reforming education for our children who represent our future, and it's Jersey City's future that my candidacy is all about. My life experiences have taught me that you have to be prepared to take on tough fights and that making a real difference in people's lives is what matters most. I learned my values from my family, church, schools, and the people of Jersey City. They taught me what really matters most is respect for self and respect for others. I learned from them that you usually get more done when you work with people rather than fight them. These lessons served me well. I am the only candidate who has worked consistently with former mayor Bret Schudler to expand educational choice and with late mayor Glenn D. Cunningham to build Golden Neighborhoods. Yes, I am a Democrat, but I have always put people before politics. Because corruption and special interests equal higher taxes and ineffective government, the residents of Jersey City demand and deserve a corruption free, machine free, and special interest free government. My job as Mayor of Jersey City will be to meet those demands, and I have the experience where it counts: right here in Jersey City. As Mayor, I will establish at least six specific goals, objectives, and standards for government reform. My first goal is to create a People's Report Card. Within 45 days after my election I will create and publish the People's Report Card to evaluate our government's performance. It will contain specific goals, objectives, and timetables for each department that can be evaluated by you and me. No longer will the people or employees of Jersey City be mislead about who has to do what. Jersey City has some of the best workers in the world; unfortunately, there is no standard of accountability for us to judge them. I will correct that. My second goal is to create the position of a "Taxpayers' Watchdog." 58% (26.42 C, 31.76 S, and 41.82.JC) of our municipal budget goes to pay for County government and the Board of Education. Last year, the County raised Jersey City taxes by 11.84% (tax certification schedule by Cty. Bd. of Tax); yet there is no one in City government analyzing their budgets. We need accountability, and I will bring it. My third goal is to create a Department or division of lifelong learning. From cradle to grave, we must find ways for our people to reconnect with the knowledge of tomorrow with the wisdom of today. We must forge a much stronger partnership with Jersey City's Board of Education to provide protection for our children before, during, and after school. Charter schools need to be looked at, assisted, and expanded, and the Jersey City Employment and Training Corporation will work in concert with (not promoting concerts for) the people of Jersey City to provide them high quality training so they can get good jobs not free theater tickets. My fourth goal is to create the "Peoples' Hour" /"Mobile Mayor's Office". Every week I will devote three hours to meet with any resident of Jersey City, and I will do it in the Wards. I will do this by setting up a Ward by Ward schedule and driving directly to the people. In my administration, every resident, in every ward, will have the opportunity to voice their problems and suggestions directly to the Mayor. My fifth goal is to create a senior buying network and on-call jitney bus service. Our senior citizens worked hard all their lives and made possible what we have today. It is our turn to help them by using the leverage of our government to negotiate with businesses to offer discounts and then produce a discount coupon book for our seniors. Also, I will establish a jitney bus service to help our senior community get to medical appointments and shop around our city. My sixth and final goal is to create a Safe Street program. I will use whatever Urban Enterprise Zones monies are available to hire new police officers to make our communities more secure. This is what I will do to REFORM GOVERNMENT NOW! There are political insiders saying we are getting in the race too late. Yes, others have announced earlier and time in service has its place, but the people in Jersey City have had enough. They want vitality not longevity. REFORM GOVERNMENT NOW! The same political insiders might tell you that am a spoiler of another candidate's chance to win. Don't believe them. The only thing my candidacy is spoiling is their idea of having a good time with your money. REFORM GOVERNMENT NOW! These same political insiders might make arguments through slinging mud and fear tactics, but we'll take the high road and tell these political insiders, REFORM GOVERNMENT NOW! We in Jersey City have a choice. We can submit to the forces against us: inadequate services, machine politicians, and special interests; or, we can seize control of our own destiny by making Jersey City government work efficiently and effectively on behalf of all our people and neighborhoods. For me, and, I think, for the residents of Jersey City, the choice is easy, even if the challenges are hard. And I'm ready, willing, and eager to help lead the fight to overcome the difficult challenges. There are 49 days left to the election, and thisnumber 49 is significant because in 1949 a young reform mayoral candidate beat the Frank Hague machine, and now a young reformer is going to beat the current machine and turn government back to you. That reformer is me. During the course of the campaign I will listen to you to learn about additional reforms. (SPANISH) However, in closing I will make one promise: Honesty, integrity and unity will be the legacy I will create for the people of Jersey City. Thank you. God Bless you, and God Bless Jersey City! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 5878 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 08:39:26 Subject: Will Steve Flipski sick with Lipski? Or will he flip to some else real soon. Only if the price is right I am told.Only in Jersey City Again. A real joke on the Taxpayers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Attack Dog posted Message 5879 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 08:52:57 Subject: Amabile Attacks Menendez for being Greedy &Ambitious Great call, Tony Amabile on Menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You need a dictionary posted Message 5880 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:01:24 Subject: Re: Don't be mean! Look up bigotry in Websters before you start correcting people on it's meaning. Ignorance is a Sin Against God! : : So is Bigotry! : Learnn the meaning ...Bigotry is against other races. : Homosexuality is a SIN AGAINST GOD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 5881 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:09:20 Subject: Re: Steve Lipski Announces Run for Mayor of Jersey City Listen & Watch the Video. You know the written word is a lot more impressive than Lipski actually reading, or should I say stumbling over it, as someone wrote it for him as he parrotted it back. Impressive written speech though, have not seen anything like this from the other candidates. But Lipski has no serious shot and is in it as a spoiler and opportunitist. And oh yeah, boy he got fat. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5882 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:11:30 Subject: Re: Healy Party a success,He kept his clothes on all night If Healy's zipper was down, was Lou Manzo ready willing and able on his knees? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom NoBrainer posted Message 5883 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:13:08 Subject: Re: Thank you for putting my name along side Tom DeGise : That is a true Honor.Neither of us seems to know what a toothbrush or a shower is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chain Gang posted Message 5884 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:24:53 Subject: Because of brain dead voters.-More politicians will go to jail I hope your taxes go through the roof. You all deserve what you vote for.The good news is, you will all get your "Free" lunches.The Democrats are great for giving free stuff with other peoples money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Impressive speech posted Message 5885 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:29:44 Subject: Re: Steve Lipski Announces Run for Mayor of Jersey City This was the best speech I have heard by any of the mayoral candidates. Whoever his speechwriter is did a good job. : Good afternoon and boy is it a good afternoon.Today, I, Steve Lipski, declare my candidacy as the : reform candidate for Mayor in the upcoming special election, Tuesday, November 2. I'm running for Mayor because as a life long Jersey City resident I know and understand the residents of : Jersey City demand straight talk and common sense. : I chose this location, Create Charter High School, a school I opened 3 years ago, to announce I am running for Mayor. It is here that we are reforming education for our children who represent our future, and it's Jersey City's future that my candidacy is all about. : My life experiences have taught me that you have to be prepared to take on tough fights and that making a real difference in people's lives is what matters most. I learned my values from my family, church, schools, and the people of Jersey City. They taught me what really matters most is respect for self and respect for others. I learned from them that you usually get more done when you work with people rather than fight them. These lessons served me well. : I am the only candidate who has worked consistently with former mayor Bret Schudler to expand : educational choice and with late mayor Glenn D. Cunningham to build Golden Neighborhoods. Yes, I am a Democrat, but I have always put people before politics. : Because corruption and special interests equal higher taxes and ineffective government, the residents of Jersey City demand and deserve a corruption free, machine free, and special interest free government. My job as Mayor of Jersey City will be to meet those demands, and I have the experience where it counts: right here in Jersey City. : As Mayor, I will establish at least six specific goals, objectives, and standards for government reform. : My first goal is to create a People's Report Card. Within 45 days after my election I will create and publish the People's Report Card to evaluate our government's performance. It will contain specific goals, objectives, and timetables for each department that can be evaluated by you and me. No longer will the people or employees of Jersey City be mislead about who has to do what. Jersey City has some of the best workers in the world; unfortunately, there is no standard of accountability for us to judge them. I will correct that. : My second goal is to create the position of a "Taxpayers' Watchdog." 58% (26.42 C, 31.76 S, : and 41.82.JC) of our municipal budget goes to pay for County government and the Board of Education. Last year, the County raised Jersey City taxes by 11.84% (tax certification schedule by Cty. Bd. of Tax); yet there is no one in City government analyzing their budgets. We need accountability, and I will bring it. : My third goal is to create a Department or division of lifelong learning. From cradle to grave, we must find ways for our people to reconnect with the knowledge of tomorrow with the wisdom of today. We must forge a much stronger partnership with Jersey City's Board of Education to provide protection for our children before, during, and after school. Charter schools need to be looked at, assisted, and expanded, and the Jersey City Employment and Training Corporation will work in concert with (not promoting concerts for) the people of Jersey City to provide them high quality training so they can get good jobs not free theater tickets. : My fourth goal is to create the "Peoples' Hour" /"Mobile Mayor's Office". Every week I will devote three hours to meet with any resident of Jersey City, and I will do it in the Wards. I will do this by setting up a Ward by Ward schedule and driving directly to the people. In my administration, every resident, in every ward, will have the opportunity to voice their : problems and suggestions directly to the Mayor. : My fifth goal is to create a senior buying network and on-call jitney bus service. Our senior citizens worked hard all their lives and made possible what we have today. It is our turn to help them by using the leverage of our government to negotiate with businesses to offer discounts and then produce a discount coupon book for our seniors. Also, I will establish a jitney bus service to help our senior community get to medical appointments and shop : around our city. : My sixth and final goal is to create a Safe Street program. I will use whatever Urban Enterprise Zones monies are available to hire new police officers to make our communities more secure. : This is what I will do to REFORM GOVERNMENT NOW! : There are political insiders saying we are getting in the race too late. Yes, others have announced earlier and time in service has its place, but the people in Jersey City have had enough. They want vitality not longevity. REFORM GOVERNMENT NOW! : The same political insiders might tell you that am a spoiler of another candidate's chance to win. Don't believe them. The only thing my candidacy is spoiling is their idea of having a good time with your money. REFORM GOVERNMENT NOW! : These same political insiders might make arguments through slinging mud and fear tactics, but we'll take the high road and tell these political insiders, REFORM GOVERNMENT NOW! : We in Jersey City have a choice. We can submit to the forces against us: inadequate services, machine politicians, and special interests; or, we can seize control of our own destiny by making Jersey City government work efficiently and effectively on behalf of all our people and neighborhoods. For me, and, I think, for the residents of Jersey City, the choice is easy, even if the challenges are hard. And I'm ready, willing, and eager to help lead the fight to overcome the difficult challenges. : There are 49 days left to the election, and thisnumber 49 is significant because in 1949 a young reform mayoral candidate beat the Frank Hague machine, and now a young reformer is going to beat the current machine and turn government back to : you. That reformer is me. : During the course of the campaign I will listen to you to learn about additional reforms. : (SPANISH) : However, in closing I will make one promise: Honesty, integrity and unity will be the legacy I will create for the people of Jersey City. : Thank you. God Bless you, and God Bless Jersey City! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not familiar with the Rolling Stones music posted Message 5886 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:31:12 Subject: Re: Yikes !!! But I do know this from Guns & Roses. : The song isn't that old is it ? Sympathy for the Devil by the Rolling Stones. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Child Of Light posted Message 5887 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:42:17 Subject: Re: Sympathy for the Devil I must have sympathy For that is my nature because I know that you want me to hate you The father gave me a gift so hopefully your soul gets a lift But I see you would rather lay in a cript Try to hurt God's children That's what you will get Willie Flood is one of GOD's chosen That's why all the other candidates are frozen She WILL win the seat for this I know For She has the cleanest heart and purest soul So wait till November Second for you shall see Who the next Mayor of Jersey City shall Be. Willie Flood. PF,2 : Please allow me to introduce myself : I’m a man of wealth and taste : I’ve been around for a long, long year : Stole many a man’s soul and faith : And I was ’round when jesus christ : Had his moment of doubt and pain : Made damn sure that pilate : Washed his hands and sealed his fate : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guess my name : But what’s puzzling you : Is the nature of my game : I stuck around st. petersburg : When I saw it was a time for a change : Killed the czar and his ministers : Anastasia screamed in vain : I rode a tank : Held a general’s rank : When the blitzkrieg raged : And the bodies stank : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guess my name, oh yeah : Ah, what’s puzzling you : Is the nature of my game, oh yeah : I watched with glee : While your kings and queens : Fought for ten decades : For the gods they made : I shouted out, : Who killed the kennedys? : When after all : It was you and me : Let me please introduce myself : I’m a man of wealth and taste : And I laid traps for troubadours : Who get killed before they reached bombay : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah : But what’s puzzling you : Is the nature of my game, oh yeah, get down, baby : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guessed my name, oh yeah : But what’s confusing you : Is just the nature of my game : Just as every cop is a criminal : And all the sinners saints : As heads is tails : Just call me lucifer : ’cause I’m in need of some restraint : So if you meet me : Have some courtesy : Have some sympathy, and some taste : Use all your well-learned politesse : Or I’ll lay your soul to waste, um yeah : Pleased to meet you : Hope you guessed my name, um yeah : But what’s puzzling you : Is the nature of my game ***************** End Of Article ****************** Child of Light posted Message 5888 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:45:34 Subject: A Little Something for SATAN I must have sympathy For that is my nature because I know that you want me to hate you The father gave me a gift so hopefully your soul gets a lift But I see you would rather lay in a cript Try to hurt God's children That's what you will get Willie Flood is one of GOD's chosen That's why all the other candidates are frozen She WILL win the seat for this I know For She has the cleanest heart and purest soul So wait till November Second for you shall see Who the next Mayor of Jersey City shall Be. Willie Flood. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter posted Message 5889 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:46:54 Subject: Re: Flood to file for Senate Sounds good to me. : Willie Flood is announcing she will be making a run at senate also since DeSoto has dropped out of the race. Just think of : this : Mayor Flood : Senator Flood ***************** End Of Article ****************** Disgusted posted Message 5890 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:48:12 Subject: This Board has reached a new low It is sad that this board has become so dominated by a few psychopathic losers who have nothing good to say about their own candidates, so they spend their sorry lives posting crap under pseudonyms like "Homos for Manzo" and "Drunks for Healy" and other idiotic aliases. Jersey City is a town in need of some real leadership, but instead of debating ideas about job creation, tax stability, infrastructure rehabilitation, neighborhood revitalization, public safety, and a host of other important issues..... we are treated to a daily dose of dirt bags getting their jollies posting slanderous crap under aliases that show their true personal phobias. Anthony, its a shame that this forum that you have providd has become a dumping ground for the lowly losers of the political spectrum. It had such potential to become a place for dialog and debate. But instead it has become nothing more than a place for verbal p0rnography and slander. The postings here not only reflect a complete lack of professionalism in the various campaigns, but also the disgusting level to which some will stoop when they have nothing positive to say about their own candidate. God help Jersey City if this is the best we can expect. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Really now posted Message 5891 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:48:38 Subject: Re: Sympathy for the Devil You really think that Willie is one of God's chosen???? That might be considered blasphemy by some. She might be a nice person but that doesn't make her "chosen by God". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, II posted Message 5892 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:48:48 Subject: Re: Flood to file for Senate That has a nice ring to it. : Willie Flood is announcing she will be making a run at senate also since DeSoto has dropped out of the race. Just think of : this : Mayor Flood : Senator Flood ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amen! posted Message 5893 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:51:26 Subject: Re: This Board has reached a new low These posts are indicative of why Jersey City is in the mess that it's in. Political candidates and their hacks with no real reason for running except for the powertrip and the paycheck. : It is sad that this board has become so dominated by a few psychopathic losers who have nothing good to say about their own candidates, so they spend their sorry lives posting crap under pseudonyms like "Homos for Manzo" and "Drunks for Healy" and other idiotic aliases. : Jersey City is a town in need of some real leadership, but instead of debating ideas about job creation, tax stability, infrastructure rehabilitation, neighborhood revitalization, public safety, and a host of other important issues..... we are treated to a daily dose of dirt bags getting their jollies posting slanderous crap under aliases that show their true personal phobias. : Anthony, its a shame that this forum that you have providd has become a dumping ground for the lowly losers of the political spectrum. It had such potential to become a place for dialog and debate. But instead it has become nothing more than a place for verbal p0rnography and slander. : The postings here not only reflect a complete lack of professionalism in the various campaigns, but also the disgusting level to which some will stoop when they have nothing positive to say about their own candidate. : God help Jersey City if this is the best we can expect. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Only in JC posted Message 5894 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:56:21 Subject: Could a Fool Like YOU be given access to a computer Black Widow? That's the best you could come up with? I can think of a few other more appropriate "Handles" for you...but Anthony would delete them. : Not one was sober by 11.O Clock.All wanted to know what they were there for in the first place.Only in Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Child of Light posted Message 5895 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 09:57:42 Subject: Re: Sympathy for the Devil I know this!!!! What church do you go to? : You really think that Willie is one of God's chosen???? That might be considered blasphemy by some. : She might be a nice person but that doesn't make her "chosen by God". ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's Why They Call It A Public Message Board on the Internet posted Message 5896 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 10:00:36 Subject: Re: This Board has reached a new low America!!!!! : These posts are indicative of why Jersey City is in the mess that it's in. Political candidates and their hacks with no real reason for running except for the powertrip and the paycheck. : : It is sad that this board has become so dominated by a few psychopathic losers who have nothing good to say about their own candidates, so they spend their sorry lives posting crap under pseudonyms like "Homos for Manzo" and "Drunks for Healy" and other idiotic aliases. : : Jersey City is a town in need of some real leadership, but instead of debating ideas about job creation, tax stability, infrastructure rehabilitation, neighborhood revitalization, public safety, and a host of other important issues..... we are treated to a daily dose of dirt bags getting their jollies posting slanderous crap under aliases that show their true personal phobias. : : Anthony, its a shame that this forum that you have providd has become a dumping ground for the lowly losers of the political spectrum. It had such potential to become a place for dialog and debate. But instead it has become nothing more than a place for verbal p0rnography and slander. : : The postings here not only reflect a complete lack of professionalism in the various campaigns, but also the disgusting level to which some will stoop when they have nothing positive to say about their own candidate. : : God help Jersey City if this is the best we can expect. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wrong posted Message 5897 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 10:05:30 Subject: Re: This Board has reached a new low You have a low opinion of your fellow citizens if you think the garbage spewed here daily reflects America. I think it reflects the worst of our system, not the best. It is the under belly of America where sick minds hide from the light of day. It is the last bastion for cowards who hold prejudices and phobias that they lack the word to explain. This sure ain't the America we send our armed forces to defend and die for. This is a bastardization of everything America stand for. : America!!!!! : : These posts are indicative of why Jersey City is in the mess that it's in. Political candidates and their hacks with no real reason for running except for the powertrip and the paycheck. : : : It is sad that this board has become so dominated by a few psychopathic losers who have nothing good to say about their own candidates, so they spend their sorry lives posting crap under pseudonyms like "Homos for Manzo" and "Drunks for Healy" and other idiotic aliases. : : : Jersey City is a town in need of some real leadership, but instead of debating ideas about job creation, tax stability, infrastructure rehabilitation, neighborhood revitalization, public safety, and a host of other important issues..... we are treated to a daily dose of dirt bags getting their jollies posting slanderous crap under aliases that show their true personal phobias. : : : Anthony, its a shame that this forum that you have providd has become a dumping ground for the lowly losers of the political spectrum. It had such potential to become a place for dialog and debate. But instead it has become nothing more than a place for verbal p0rnography and slander. : : : The postings here not only reflect a complete lack of professionalism in the various campaigns, but also the disgusting level to which some will stoop when they have nothing positive to say about their own candidate. : : : God help Jersey City if this is the best we can expect. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Maybe they call it a public message board on the internet posted Message 5898 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 10:06:53 Subject: Re: This Board has reached a new low But I call some of the posts just more political embarrassments for Jersey City and Hudson County. Haven't we been thru enough? When do we start focussing on the postives of this city and start running decent people as candidates for office. Are we in Hudson County so jaded by the past that we can't see the future? You wrote "America". Isn't this supposed to be the land of the free and the home of the brave? What's free or brave about the political corruption in Hudson County or is Hudson County outside the United States and a Banana Republic of it's own? : America!!!!! : : These posts are indicative of why Jersey City is in the mess that it's in. Political candidates and their hacks with no real reason for running except for the powertrip and the paycheck. : : : It is sad that this board has become so dominated by a few psychopathic losers who have nothing good to say about their own candidates, so they spend their sorry lives posting crap under pseudonyms like "Homos for Manzo" and "Drunks for Healy" and other idiotic aliases. : : : Jersey City is a town in need of some real leadership, but instead of debating ideas about job creation, tax stability, infrastructure rehabilitation, neighborhood revitalization, public safety, and a host of other important issues..... we are treated to a daily dose of dirt bags getting their jollies posting slanderous crap under aliases that show their true personal phobias. : : : Anthony, its a shame that this forum that you have providd has become a dumping ground for the lowly losers of the political spectrum. It had such potential to become a place for dialog and debate. But instead it has become nothing more than a place for verbal p0rnography and slander. : : : The postings here not only reflect a complete lack of professionalism in the various campaigns, but also the disgusting level to which some will stoop when they have nothing positive to say about their own candidate. : : : God help Jersey City if this is the best we can expect. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Agreed! posted Message 5899 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 10:08:46 Subject: Re: This Board has reached a new low Hudson County isn't an America that I am particularly proud of. It's an entity unto itself and a blight on the rest of the United States. : You have a low opinion of your fellow citizens if you think the garbage spewed here daily reflects America. I think it reflects the worst of our system, not the best. It is the under belly of America where sick minds hide from the light of day. It is the last bastion for cowards who hold prejudices and phobias that they lack the word to explain. This sure ain't the America we send our armed forces to defend and die for. This is a bastardization of everything America stand for. : : : America!!!!! : : : These posts are indicative of why Jersey City is in the mess that it's in. Political candidates and their hacks with no real reason for running except for the powertrip and the paycheck. : : : : It is sad that this board has become so dominated by a few psychopathic losers who have nothing good to say about their own candidates, so they spend their sorry lives posting crap under pseudonyms like "Homos for Manzo" and "Drunks for Healy" and other idiotic aliases. : : : : Jersey City is a town in need of some real leadership, but instead of debating ideas about job creation, tax stability, infrastructure rehabilitation, neighborhood revitalization, public safety, and a host of other important issues..... we are treated to a daily dose of dirt bags getting their jollies posting slanderous crap under aliases that show their true personal phobias. : : : : Anthony, its a shame that this forum that you have providd has become a dumping ground for the lowly losers of the political spectrum. It had such potential to become a place for dialog and debate. But instead it has become nothing more than a place for verbal p0rnography and slander. : : : : The postings here not only reflect a complete lack of professionalism in the various campaigns, but also the disgusting level to which some will stoop when they have nothing positive to say about their own candidate. : : : : God help Jersey City if this is the best we can expect. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil posted Message 5900 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 10:32:13 Subject: Re: Sympathy for the Devil I don't believe that God chooses anyone of us over another. He gives us the Free Will to choose Him. God loves each of us equally. What church I go to isn't your concern. You just need to know that I have chosen God over man! If your church is telling you that God prefers some of us to others, then you might want to start looking for a church with a more positive and God-affirming message. : I know this!!!! What church do you go to? : : You really think that Willie is one of God's chosen???? That might be considered blasphemy by some. : : She might be a nice person but that doesn't make her "chosen by God". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gods Profit posted Message 5901 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 10:38:45 Subject: Heaven is graded on a curve So all the good things done by Glenn must be atoned for by all the badness of Bobby and the UTN. Thus the expression no good deed goes unpunished. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gods Profit posted Message 5902 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 10:41:57 Subject: Re: Because of brain dead voters.-More politicians will go to jail I only hope you stand at the end of the free give out line and maybe I'll Steal your share of the goodies. Since Republicans are always claiming they had nothing to do with Socialism in the United States when in fact when it comes to corporate well fare they seem to be OK with that. : I hope your taxes go through the roof. You all deserve what you vote for.The good news is, you will all get your "Free" lunches.The Democrats are great for giving free stuff with other peoples money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black widow posted Message 5903 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 10:46:14 Subject: The dead of a City We have all seen the beginning of the end for Jersy City. Look around you and see what is happening. It cant get any worse.Everyone is running around trying to get what they can get out of the city before the final curtain.Good bye , "My beloved City"?Lets raise taxes and do some bonding to delay the the final outcome.,good for you all.Vote for any of these people and lose your homes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black widow posted Message 5904 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 10:55:59 Subject: Re: The dead of a City : We have all seen the beginning of the end for Jersy City. Look around you and see what is happening. It cant get any worse.Everyone is running around trying to get what they can get out of the city before the final curtain.Good bye , "My beloved City"?Lets raise taxes and do some bonding to delay the the final outcome.,good for you all.Vote for any of these people and lose your homes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Real Truth posted Message 5905 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 11:15:56 Subject: Re: The Flood Smoke Screen Now come on. Are you serious? Harvey is the biggest phony on the planet. You are right WE elected Glenn. Harvey did everything he could to stop Glenn. He was jealous and hated Glenn with a passion. He is an uncle Tom. He is not a leader. Think about it what kind of moron would do something as distastefull as firing everyone as soon as the mayor died? Or keep Mrs. Flood's paycheck. Or change the plaque for a park that he didn't have anything to do with. He is a BIG baby. He is an old school gangster and crook. People told Glenn not to deal with him but Glenn always saw the good in someone so he dealt with him and look what happened. So you are a misinformed soul Ruth. You sound like a hater. Harvey dosen't give a $hit about the people. He cares about himself. He even threatened the Muslims on Communipaw to take Willie's sign down. Stop talking that BULL$HIT he was never elected to be mayor in the first place so the people don't want him and that will definitely show in November. Get a life. : OK people....Flood cannot win the Mayors seat ...a fact...the scheme to run her was cooked up by Drayton, Carwell, Jackson, Mccann, Manzo, Sandy, and the UTN posse, to pull votes from Harvey Smith...even tho these Cunningham leftovers swear that Smith has no support in the black community they do not want him to be the only black horse in the race... IF HE IS they're afraid the community might do the right thing ..."continue the legacy" of having an African American STILL in office...after trying to portray him as an Uncle Tom it would kill them if the black commuinity came together behind Harvey to keep the legacy going...people wake up! Harvey Smith is BLACK! ...the ones who were so proud of electing the first African Amrican mayor are the ones now trying to divide that community against another black man....Cunningham's victory was not his alone...it was a legacy for a people - Harvey Smith is one of those people...anyone who engages in politics of division in thier own community should be ashamedof themselves... willie i thought you were better then that.....i guess i was wrong ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5906 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 11:36:40 Subject: Jimmy King Association Endorses Lou Manzo While walking up Kennedy Boulevard this morning, I happened to meet Jimmy King. He wants everyone to know that last Monday his Jimmy King Assocation endorsed Lou Manzo for Mayor of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood for mayor posted Message 5907 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 11:36:51 Subject: Flood Supporter I just realized after coming out of the bathroom. I made a little Willie Flood! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ANYONE BUT SMITH! posted Message 5908 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 11:43:16 Subject: Harvey Smith Harvey Smith Removing the name of Glenn Cunningham and other public officials from a memorial plaque at a park dedication is the work of a small mind. Now let’s go look for all the plaques that were erected during the Bret Schundler administration and see if Harvey’s name appears anywhere. No where does it say that the role of Acting Mayor is to be an historical revisionist. ***************** End Of Article ****************** White Widower posted Message 5909 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 11:45:07 Subject: Re: The dead of a City :::When we loose our homes, we'll all move in with you. : : We have all seen the beginning of the end for Jersy City. Look around you and see what is happening. It cant get any worse.Everyone is running around trying to get what they can get out of the city before the final curtain.Good bye , "My beloved City"?Lets raise taxes and do some bonding to delay the the final outcome.,good for you all.Vote for any of these people and lose your homes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** White Widower posted Message 5909 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 11:45:12 Subject: Re: The dead of a City :::When we loose our homes, we'll all move in with you. : : We have all seen the beginning of the end for Jersy City. Look around you and see what is happening. It cant get any worse.Everyone is running around trying to get what they can get out of the city before the final curtain.Good bye , "My beloved City"?Lets raise taxes and do some bonding to delay the the final outcome.,good for you all.Vote for any of these people and lose your homes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood, Jr. posted Message 5910 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 11:47:11 Subject: Re: Flood Supporter Is that the best you can do? Come on. Please be more creative. Thanx. : I just realized after coming out of the bathroom. : I made a little Willie Flood! ***************** End Of Article ****************** WILLIE FLOOD FOR MAYOR posted Message 5911 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 11:49:55 Subject: Flood gets 800 signatures for Mayoral special election Support proves she's a strong candidate Jersey City, NJ - Jersey City Mayoral candidate Willie Flood garnered 800 signatures on her petitions for the November special election. Ms. Flood and her supporters turned in her petitions at the County Clerk's office. "I'm very pleased with the support I'm receiving from so many Jersey City residents," said Ms. Flood, who was an aide to the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham. "it very gratifying to see so many people eager to assist me in my run for the Mayor's office. Also, I'm proud to announce that Freeholder Jeffery Dublin will serve as my Campaign Chairman." She is a former Jersey City Councilwoman and a member of the Jersey City Board of Education. Ms. Flood's first fund raiser is scheduled for September 30, 2004 at the Liberty House Restaurant. In a recent poll, prior to Ms. Flood declaring her intentions to run for Mayor, she placed in the top three candidates. She also had greater name recognition among voters than some of the other individuals in the poll. For further information on the fund raising event and how to volunteer for 'Willie Flood for Mayor' campaign, call 201-433-8828. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Child of Light posted Message 5912 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 12:04:20 Subject: Re: Sympathy for the Devil First of all, read my name. That means that I am SPIRITUAL no longer bound by the confines of religion. I am a CHILD OF LIGHT. You are absolutely right but GOD does ordain certain beings to do HIS will. I believe it is her destiny to help the people of this City. Not just friends and family. One more thing aren't you SATAN? Make up your mind. : I don't believe that God chooses anyone of us over another. He gives us the Free Will to choose Him. God loves each of us equally. : What church I go to isn't your concern. You just need to know that I have chosen God over man! If your church is telling you that God prefers some of us to others, then you might want to start looking for a church with a more positive and God-affirming message. : : I know this!!!! What church do you go to? : : : You really think that Willie is one of God's chosen???? That might be considered blasphemy by some. : : : She might be a nice person but that doesn't make her "chosen by God". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bar Fly posted Message 5913 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 12:26:10 Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Maggie D is the white one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NOPE NOT MAGGIE D... posted Message 5914 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 12:33:31 Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS : Maggie D is the white one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vlad the Impaler posted Message 5915 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 12:38:46 Subject: Night of the Living Dead Also known as .. the Jersey City Mayoral Race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Real Truth posted Message 5916 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 12:41:36 Subject: Answer to the Uncle Harvey Rhetoric Now come on. Are you serious? Harvey is the biggest phony on the planet. You are right WE elected Glenn. Harvey did everything he could to stop Glenn. He was jealous and hated Glenn with a passion. He is an uncle Tom. He is not a leader. Think about it what kind of moron would do something as distastefull as firing everyone as soon as the mayor died? Or keep Mrs. Flood's paycheck. Or change the plaque for a park that he didn't have anything to do with. He is a BIG baby. He is an old school gangster and crook. People told Glenn not to deal with him but Glenn always saw the good in someone so he dealt with him and look what happened. So you are a misinformed soul Ruth. You sound like a hater. Harvey dosen't give a $hit about the people. He cares about himself. He even threatened the Muslims on Communipaw to take Willie's sign down. Stop talking that BULL$HIT he was never elected to be mayor in the first place so the people don't want him and that will definitely show in November. Get a life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Church Lady posted Message 5917 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 12:44:48 Subject: Clean heart .. pure soul, empty head. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5918 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 12:51:06 Subject: Healy Event What a turnout... Healy is picking up momentum. The election is in Healy's grasp. Healy should call for all the canidates to drop out just like Willie (nicest guy in town) Flood. HEALY IN NOV 04 & MAY 05. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's right! posted Message 5919 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 12:53:02 Subject: Re: Healy Event ::::Everyone come out and vote for Healy on November 4th! Way to go Jerry! : What a turnout... Healy is picking up momentum. The election is in Healy's grasp. Healy should call for all the canidates to drop : out just like Willie (nicest guy in town) Flood. : HEALY IN NOV 04 & MAY 05. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Typical Healy Syncophant! When you got nothing you resort to personal attacks. posted Message 5920 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 12:56:32 Subject: Re: Healy Party a success,He kept his clothes on all night : If Healy's zipper was down, was Lou Manzo ready willing and able on his knees? ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5921 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 13:08:43 Subject: Re: Flood Supporter I didn't know he had a clone. Good ole' Willie boy! : I made a little Willie Flood! ***************** End Of Article ****************** You've proven yourself posted Message 5922 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 13:31:46 Subject: Re: Sympathy for the Devil First of all, you can call yourself by any forum moniker that you wish. It doesn't make a difference if you are a child of light or a flowerchild. Phil, I think that calling me Satan is about as dispicable as you can get. No sir, I am not Satan! I am very curious as to what led you to that comment. Kindly explain to me how you can rationalize that. I now strongly suspect that you are Homos for Manzo. Am I correct????? You seem to have a very narrow viewpoint like HfM and if anyone does not think or believe or act like you do, then you seem to believe that you have the right to castigate them. Is your name Phil Flood or Fred Phelps? God does not ordain certain individuals...it's up to the individual to give themselves to God and spread His word. Any one of us could be in God's service at any point. I don't believe that God picks certain people for His ministry...he allows us to choose that life for ourselves and He loves each of us equally whether we choose to minister or not. He even loves us when we turn our backs on Him. That's called Unconditional Love! If, by chance, your mother has the same points of view that you do, she will not get my vote. Intolerance cannot be allowed gain a foothold in Jersey City. : First of all, read my name. That means that I am SPIRITUAL no longer bound by the confines of religion. I am a CHILD OF LIGHT. You are absolutely right but GOD does ordain certain beings to do HIS will. I believe it is her destiny to help the people of this City. Not just friends and family. : One more thing aren't you SATAN? Make up your mind. : : : I don't believe that God chooses anyone of us over another. He gives us the Free Will to choose Him. God loves each of us equally. : : What church I go to isn't your concern. You just need to know that I have chosen God over man! If your church is telling you that God prefers some of us to others, then you might want to start looking for a church with a more positive and God-affirming message. : : : I know this!!!! What church do you go to? : : : : : You really think that Willie is one of God's chosen???? That might be considered blasphemy by some. : : : : She might be a nice person but that doesn't make her "chosen by God". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roscoe Supports Flood posted Message 5923 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 13:35:29 Subject: Re: Flood Supporter Mine looked more like a L. Harvey, but come to think of it, it was so big it could have been called a Roscoe! : : : I just realized after coming out of the bathroom. : : I made a little Willie Flood! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Taylor posted Message 5924 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 13:40:01 Subject: Movie imitates life OH MY, Movies imitate life! Planet of the Apes! "Take your stin king paws off me, you damn dirty apes!" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5925 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 13:41:47 Subject: Re: Healy Party a success,He kept his clothes on all night No, you got your Irishmen mixed up. Danny McMahon was not there last night. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Brian posted Message 5926 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 13:42:51 Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Didn't she have a fling with Schundler too? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homo for Manzo posted Message 5927 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 13:44:38 Subject: Who? Who got hit on the chin with more balls in his life time. Yogi Berra or Lou Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Timothy Leary posted Message 5928 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 13:45:37 Subject: Lighten up. No one takes this Board too seriously. It's a place to let it all hang out, have fun and freely express your thoughts. You can't do that in the forums on NJ.COM Okay, now what did I do with my brown acid ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 5929 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 13:54:32 Subject: Re: Who? !: Who got hit on the chin with more balls in his life time. YOUR MOTHER ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bar Fly posted Message 5930 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 13:58:58 Subject: Re: Who? : Who got hit on the chin with more balls in his life time. Dan McMann or Maggie Doyle ***************** End Of Article ****************** GO HEALY posted Message 5931 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 14:07:28 Subject: Re: Healy Event : THE MAN MEANT HEALY WILL BE MAYOR ON NOVEMBER 3RD.. WE ALL KNOW ELECTION DAY IS THE 2ND.. WISE GUY!! AND YES HEALY HAD A GREAT TURN OUT AND WILL BE OUR NEXT MAYOR!! GO JERRY! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Take your meds, get a personality a sense of humor posted Message 5932 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 14:14:37 Subject: Re: Healy Event : : THE MAN MEANT HEALY WILL BE MAYOR ON NOVEMBER 3RD.. WE ALL KNOW ELECTION DAY IS THE 2ND.. WISE GUY!! AND YES HEALY HAD A GREAT TURN OUT AND WILL BE OUR NEXT MAYOR!! GO JERRY! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Big Whoop posted Message 5933 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 14:30:25 Subject: Both members of the Jimmy King Assoc Endorse Lou Manzo What a group... : While walking up Kennedy Boulevard this morning, I happened to meet Jimmy King. He wants everyone to know that last Monday his Jimmy King Assocation endorsed Lou Manzo for Mayor of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jack Daniels posted Message 5934 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 14:34:01 Subject: Results of DRNKING CONTEST ATCasino Last night Drinking tournament at casino in the park . Semi Final Brennan (TAKEN TO HOSPITAL FOR ALCOHOL POSIONING) vs Gaughan XX GAUGHAN WAS THE WINNER DRINK OF CHOICE GASOLINE Healy DISQUALIFIED FOR TAKING OFF HIS CLOTHES AND URINATING ON BAR vs Degise XX DEGISE WAS THE WINNER BY DEFAULT(NOTHING NEW TO HIM) THE FINALS FRI NIGHT AT PJ RYANS DEGISE VS GAUGHAN ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry Gains Momentum posted Message 5935 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 14:40:14 Subject: Healy Event a Huge Success Congrats to Jerry and his crew for a tremendous turnout at the Casino last night. From the County Executive to former members of our legislative delegation, the rooms (plural) were packed and the confidence growing. There's no doubt that Healy is gaining ground while Smith and Manzo are scratching their heads trying to figure out how to counter a guy who is in the race only to make his city a better place. While Smith and Manzo run around promising jobs and contracts to get support, Healy is talking about issues and solutions to our problems. Congrats Jerry for staying on message and putting us...the taxpaying homeowner...first! You have my vote, and hopefully the rest of the City will wake up soon enough to pull the correct lever for honest leadership and a prosperous future. : What a turnout... Healy is picking up momentum. The election is in Healy's grasp. Healy should call for all the canidates to drop : out just like Willie (nicest guy in town) Flood. : HEALY IN NOV 04 & MAY 05. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rantings of a LOSER posted Message 5936 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 14:43:08 Subject: When there's nothing constructive to say.... just shut up Its amazing how many of Smith's supporters seem to have so much time during the day to post crap on these message boards. No wonder our City is falling apart under his watch. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 5937 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 14:47:37 Subject: Re: Results of DRNKING CONTEST ATCasino Last night Keep slinging mud at these great Jersey City leaders. You will regret what you are saying about them jacka$$. Healy in Nov 2004 & May 2005 : Drinking tournament at casino in the park . : Semi Final : Brennan (TAKEN TO HOSPITAL FOR ALCOHOL POSIONING) : vs : Gaughan XX GAUGHAN WAS THE WINNER DRINK OF CHOICE GASOLINE : : Healy DISQUALIFIED FOR TAKING OFF HIS CLOTHES AND URINATING ON BAR : vs : Degise XX DEGISE WAS THE WINNER BY DEFAULT(NOTHING NEW TO HIM) : THE FINALS FRI NIGHT AT PJ RYANS : DEGISE : VS : GAUGHAN ***************** End Of Article ****************** my keyboard gently weeps posted Message 5938 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 14:52:04 Subject: Healy and Kennelly produce music CD They are both nekkid on the CD cover. They look just like John Lennon and Yoko Ono. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIM posted Message 5939 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 14:52:51 Subject: Re: Jimmy King Association Endorses Lou Manzo Dan McMann endorses Louie up the azz : While walking up Kennedy Boulevard this morning, I happened to meet Jimmy King. He wants everyone to know that last Monday his Jimmy King Assocation endorsed Lou Manzo for Mayor of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5940 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 15:14:16 Subject: Online Video: Lipski Answers Reporters' Questions To view the Online video please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tough to take J Dolan Seriously posted Message 5941 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 15:36:15 Subject: Re: Results of DRNKING CONTEST ATCasino Last night ITS HARD TO J DOLAN'S POST SERIOUSLY WHEN HE SAYS: "Keep slinging mud at these great Jersey City leaders. You will regret what you are saying about them jacka$$.Healy in Nov 2004 & May 2005" WHEN HE JUST POSTED THIS AN HOUR AGO: Jersey City Guide Posted by J Dolan on Sept 15, 2004 at 13:08:43: In Reply to: Flood Supporter posted on Sept 15, 2004 at 11:36:51: "I didn't know he had a clone. Good ole' Willie boy!" YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE DOLAN....MAYBE YOU SHOULD CLEAN UP YOUR ACT BEFORE CRYING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE TAKING SHOTS ARE YOUR CANDIDATE HEALY. : : Drinking tournament at casino in the park . : : Semi Final : : Brennan (TAKEN TO HOSPITAL FOR ALCOHOL POSIONING) : : vs : : Gaughan XX GAUGHAN WAS THE WINNER DRINK OF CHOICE GASOLINE : : : : Healy DISQUALIFIED FOR TAKING OFF HIS CLOTHES AND URINATING ON BAR : : vs : : Degise XX DEGISE WAS THE WINNER BY DEFAULT(NOTHING NEW TO HIM) : : : THE FINALS FRI NIGHT AT PJ RYANS : : DEGISE : : VS : : GAUGHAN ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Little Jay Dolan posted Message 5942 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 15:42:35 Subject: Re: Flodd to file for Senate Its ok little Jay Dolan. We know who you are and its alright for you to come here in your drunken stoopers and vent at the world that has treated you so badly. We understand your psychopathic nature and the damage your incestuous relationship have had on your fragile psyche. Its ok little Jay. Now be a good little troioper go take your meds. : Way to go Willie you are the best man for those jobs.And I know how to spell Mr. Willie Flood. And Jay is not my first name jacka$$. : : : Who is FLODD???... another Jay Dolan Typo.. What an ass. : : : Willie Flood is announcing she will be making a run at senate also since DeSoto has dropped out of the race. Just think of : : : this : Mayor Flood : : : Senator Flood ***************** End Of Article ****************** Child of Light posted Message 5943 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 15:43:29 Subject: Re: Sympathy for the Devil Actually it's not Phil. He's my friend though. I must have really hit a nerve huh.I have known the Floods for about 30 years. Mr. and Mrs. Flood taught me in 22. I called you SATAN because that is the name you call yourself. I call myself a Child of Light because that's who I am. My views and opinions are just that. Mine! I respect the Floods and I will do anything I can to help them. I know Glenn would be proud of them. And Phil has every right to say whatever he wants because they have disrespected his mother to the fullest extent. Form calling her foul names to calling her a racist to calling her a man. Sir you have a right to vote for whoever you like and be apart of any denomination you like but don't attack me because you cant handle the heat you turned on. Do us all a favor and zip it. And don't EVER try to lecture me about my CREATOR because my intelligence begins where yours peaks. : First of all, you can call yourself by any forum moniker that you wish. It doesn't make a difference if you are a child of light or a flowerchild. : Phil, I think that calling me Satan is about as dispicable as you can get. No sir, I am not Satan! I am very curious as to what led you to that comment. Kindly explain to me how you can rationalize that. I now strongly suspect that you are Homos for Manzo. Am I correct????? You seem to have a very narrow viewpoint like HfM and if anyone does not think or believe or act like you do, then you seem to believe that you have the right to castigate them. Is your name Phil Flood or Fred Phelps? : God does not ordain certain individuals...it's up to the individual to give themselves to God and spread His word. Any one of us could be in God's service at any point. I don't believe that God picks certain people for His ministry...he allows us to choose that life for ourselves and He loves each of us equally whether we choose to minister or not. He even loves us when we turn our backs on Him. That's called Unconditional Love! : If, by chance, your mother has the same points of view that you do, she will not get my vote. Intolerance cannot be allowed gain a foothold in Jersey City. : : First of all, read my name. That means that I am SPIRITUAL no longer bound by the confines of religion. I am a CHILD OF LIGHT. You are absolutely right but GOD does ordain certain beings to do HIS will. I believe it is her destiny to help the people of this City. Not just friends and family. : : One more thing aren't you SATAN? Make up your mind. : : : : : : I don't believe that God chooses anyone of us over another. He gives us the Free Will to choose Him. God loves each of us equally. : : : What church I go to isn't your concern. You just need to know that I have chosen God over man! If your church is telling you that God prefers some of us to others, then you might want to start looking for a church with a more positive and God-affirming message. : : : : I know this!!!! What church do you go to? : : : : : : : You really think that Willie is one of God's chosen???? That might be considered blasphemy by some. : : : : : She might be a nice person but that doesn't make her "chosen by God". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Child of Light posted Message 5944 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 15:46:42 Subject: Re: Clean heart .. Empty head? What is your highest level of education? She has her Master's and has taught for over 30 years so where's the empty head? : pure soul, empty head. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Child of Light posted Message 5945 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 15:57:33 Subject: Re: Sympathy for the Devil Another thing. That homos for Manzo thing I had nothing to do with that. I don't think Phil would do something like that either. He's not like that and neither am I. A person's sexual preference is their business and dosen't effect the way they do a job. So don't bring me into that. That's someone else. : First of all, you can call yourself by any forum moniker that you wish. It doesn't make a difference if you are a child of light or a flowerchild. : Phil, I think that calling me Satan is about as dispicable as you can get. No sir, I am not Satan! I am very curious as to what led you to that comment. Kindly explain to me how you can rationalize that. I now strongly suspect that you are Homos for Manzo. Am I correct????? You seem to have a very narrow viewpoint like HfM and if anyone does not think or believe or act like you do, then you seem to believe that you have the right to castigate them. Is your name Phil Flood or Fred Phelps? : God does not ordain certain individuals...it's up to the individual to give themselves to God and spread His word. Any one of us could be in God's service at any point. I don't believe that God picks certain people for His ministry...he allows us to choose that life for ourselves and He loves each of us equally whether we choose to minister or not. He even loves us when we turn our backs on Him. That's called Unconditional Love! : If, by chance, your mother has the same points of view that you do, she will not get my vote. Intolerance cannot be allowed gain a foothold in Jersey City. : : First of all, read my name. That means that I am SPIRITUAL no longer bound by the confines of religion. I am a CHILD OF LIGHT. You are absolutely right but GOD does ordain certain beings to do HIS will. I believe it is her destiny to help the people of this City. Not just friends and family. : : One more thing aren't you SATAN? Make up your mind. : : : : : : I don't believe that God chooses anyone of us over another. He gives us the Free Will to choose Him. God loves each of us equally. : : : What church I go to isn't your concern. You just need to know that I have chosen God over man! If your church is telling you that God prefers some of us to others, then you might want to start looking for a church with a more positive and God-affirming message. : : : : I know this!!!! What church do you go to? : : : : : : : You really think that Willie is one of God's chosen???? That might be considered blasphemy by some. : : : : : She might be a nice person but that doesn't make her "chosen by God". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vixon posted Message 5946 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 16:08:26 Subject: McCann files for Mayor Gerry McCann filed for mayor at 3:55 pm today. 325 signatures handed in. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lots of Nick Sacco's North Bergen Gang there. posted Message 5947 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 16:15:01 Subject: Re: Healy Event a Huge Success : Congrats to Jerry and his crew for a tremendous turnout at the Casino last night. From the County Executive to former members of our legislative delegation, the rooms (plural) were packed and the confidence growing. : There's no doubt that Healy is gaining ground while Smith and Manzo are scratching their heads trying to figure out how to counter a guy who is in the race only to make his city a better place. While Smith and Manzo run around promising jobs and contracts to get support, Healy is talking about issues and solutions to our problems. : Congrats Jerry for staying on message and putting us...the taxpaying homeowner...first! You have my vote, and hopefully the rest of the City will wake up soon enough to pull the correct lever for honest leadership and a prosperous future. : : What a turnout... Healy is picking up momentum. The election is in Healy's grasp. Healy should call for all the canidates to drop : : out just like Willie (nicest guy in town) Flood. : : HEALY IN NOV 04 & MAY 05. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Look who's calling who names, someone who does not know a male from female posted Message 5948 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 16:16:56 Subject: Re: Results of DRNKING CONTEST ATCasino Last night : Keep slinging mud at these great Jersey City leaders. You will regret what you are saying about them jacka$$. : Healy in Nov 2004 & May 2005 : : Drinking tournament at casino in the park . : : Semi Final : : Brennan (TAKEN TO HOSPITAL FOR ALCOHOL POSIONING) : : vs : : Gaughan XX GAUGHAN WAS THE WINNER DRINK OF CHOICE GASOLINE : : : : Healy DISQUALIFIED FOR TAKING OFF HIS CLOTHES AND URINATING ON BAR : : vs : : Degise XX DEGISE WAS THE WINNER BY DEFAULT(NOTHING NEW TO HIM) : : : THE FINALS FRI NIGHT AT PJ RYANS : : DEGISE : : VS : : GAUGHAN ***************** End Of Article ****************** Some of them real posted Message 5949 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 16:18:52 Subject: Gerry McCann filed for mayor at 3:55 pm today. 325 signatures handed in. : ROFLMAO ***************** End Of Article ****************** What a turnout especially when tickets were for free posted Message 5950 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 16:21:54 Subject: Re: Healy Event : ... Healy is picking up no momentum. The election is not in Healy's grasp. Healy should call all the canidates and say I will drop : out just like Willie (nicest guy in town) Flood. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're full of it posted Message 5951 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 16:28:04 Subject: Re: Sympathy for the Devil Listen pal, I have NEVER referred to myself as Satan nor any other demonic entity. You show me where I said I was Satan. If you cannot, you need to apologize!!! I have nothing against Willie Flood and I agree that the attacks on her have been uncalled for. They were NOT by me!!! If you have me confused with someone else, you are in error and should apologize to me. You only hit a nerve with me for calling me Satan. You need to re-read all of our posts and you will see that I am not the original poster against Willie Flood. My first comment was that I don't think that Willie was chosen by God and some of us believe that to be blasphemy. For this, you called me Satan. Whether you're Phil or not I don't care...if I hit a nerve with you by calling you Homos for Manzo, then you surely know how I felt when you called me Satan. The fact remains that if Willie Flood has supporters like you who make accusations without facts to back them up, she will lose votes! Do the Floods a favor and stop accusing me of something that I didn't do. As far as your intelligence level, well, you've adequately demonstrated it with your diatribe. And if you post something that I believe to be blasphemy against God, I will call you on it every time. : Actually it's not Phil. He's my friend though. I must have really hit a nerve huh.I have known the Floods for about 30 years. Mr. and Mrs. Flood taught me in 22. I called you SATAN because that is the name you call yourself. I call myself a Child of Light because that's who I am. My views and opinions are just that. Mine! I respect the Floods and I will do anything I can to help them. I know Glenn would be proud of them. And Phil has every right to say whatever he wants because they have disrespected his mother to the fullest extent. Form calling her foul names to calling her a racist to calling her a man. Sir you have a right to vote for whoever you like and be apart of any denomination you like but don't attack me because you cant handle the heat you turned on. Do us all a favor and zip it. : And don't EVER try to lecture me about my CREATOR because my intelligence begins where yours peaks. : : : First of all, you can call yourself by any forum moniker that you wish. It doesn't make a difference if you are a child of light or a flowerchild. : : Phil, I think that calling me Satan is about as dispicable as you can get. No sir, I am not Satan! I am very curious as to what led you to that comment. Kindly explain to me how you can rationalize that. I now strongly suspect that you are Homos for Manzo. Am I correct????? You seem to have a very narrow viewpoint like HfM and if anyone does not think or believe or act like you do, then you seem to believe that you have the right to castigate them. Is your name Phil Flood or Fred Phelps? : : God does not ordain certain individuals...it's up to the individual to give themselves to God and spread His word. Any one of us could be in God's service at any point. I don't believe that God picks certain people for His ministry...he allows us to choose that life for ourselves and He loves each of us equally whether we choose to minister or not. He even loves us when we turn our backs on Him. That's called Unconditional Love! : : If, by chance, your mother has the same points of view that you do, she will not get my vote. Intolerance cannot be allowed gain a foothold in Jersey City. : : : : First of all, read my name. That means that I am SPIRITUAL no longer bound by the confines of religion. I am a CHILD OF LIGHT. You are absolutely right but GOD does ordain certain beings to do HIS will. I believe it is her destiny to help the people of this City. Not just friends and family. : : : One more thing aren't you SATAN? Make up your mind. : : : : : : : : : I don't believe that God chooses anyone of us over another. He gives us the Free Will to choose Him. God loves each of us equally. : : : : What church I go to isn't your concern. You just need to know that I have chosen God over man! If your church is telling you that God prefers some of us to others, then you might want to start looking for a church with a more positive and God-affirming message. : : : : : I know this!!!! What church do you go to? : : : : : : : : : You really think that Willie is one of God's chosen???? That might be considered blasphemy by some. : : : : : : She might be a nice person but that doesn't make her "chosen by God". ***************** End Of Article ****************** ?? posted Message 5952 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 16:29:48 Subject: Re: Healy Event And drinks...I'm sure that fat f*ck J Dolan was there. : : ... Healy is picking up no momentum. The election is not in Healy's grasp. Healy should call all the canidates and say I will drop : : out just like Willie (nicest guy in town) Flood. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fls posted Message 5953 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 17:37:57 Subject: Jerry Healy is related to Robert Chambers...The preppy killer (Jennifer Levine) ***************** End Of Article ****************** By STEVE KORNACKI posted Message 5954 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 18:09:56 Subject: Eleven run for mayor in Jersey City Eleven run for mayor in Jersey City September 15 - The last time Jersey City held a special election for mayor was in 1992, and the winner-take-all nature of the contest attracted 19 candidates. With no run-off, Bret D. Schundler, then an unknown Wall Street whiz kid, eked out a victory with 17 percent of the vote, ultimately parlaying his narrow win into two terms as mayor and a run for governor in 2001. Now, 12 years later, the top job in the state’s second largest city will once again be decided in a wide open special election, and with the passing of the filing deadline this afternoon it looks like there will be 11 names on the November ballot. Whether all 11 will stick it out for the next seven weeks -- this being Jersey City, it’s not impossible some of the lesser known candidates might offer to quit in exchange for future favors from one of the frontrunners -- is uncertain, but only six of the combatants appear to have significant support: Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith, Assemblyman Lou Manzo, Councilman Jerramiah Healy, police chief Ronald Buonocore, former Councilwoman Willie Flood, and Councilman Steve Lipski. Exactly how those half-dozen would-be mayors stack up against one another is debatable, but if there is a consensus among political observers and allies of the top-tier candidates it’s this: Manzo is the frontrunner, Healy is a strong second, and Smith, despite his title, has almost no chance of winning. This is actually Manzo’s fourth bid for mayor. He made it to a run-off in the spring of 1993, losing in a landslide to Schundler. He also ran in the ‘92 special election and placed third in 2001. A former Hudson County freeholder, he won an Assembly seat representing Bayonne and some of the inland sections of Jersey City last spring. That win was largely the result of running on the same ticket as the late Glenn Cunningham. “I don’t think it’s so much that he has a base,” one elected official who is neutral in the race said of Manzo’s frontrunner status. “I think it’s the fact of historical name recognition. Obviously the Assembly race last year boosted his name, and in a race like this, name recognition is a major factor. And when he ran in ‘92, remember, Lou got 14 percent of the vote and his brother got 13 percent, so together that would have been 27 percent.” Manzo’s strategy is being shaped with the help of Gerald McCann, a former mayor with dead-on political instincts who had to give up his office in 1992 when he was convicted on federal charges unrelated to his management of the city. “He may be crazy, but he knows his stuff politically,” the elected official said of McCann. If Manzo doesn’t win, Healy, who forced Schundler into an unlikely run-off when he ran for mayor in 1997, is considered the next best bet. An at-large councilman and former judge, he has the backing of Tom DeGise, who lost a mayoral run-off to Cunningham three years ago and who is now the Hudson County executive. “I think because Manzo got an earlier start (he announced his candidacy just days after Cunningham’s death in May) than anyone else might mean he’s a few points ahead, but the reality is Healy’s campaign is just kicking into gear,” said Bill Gaughan, Jersey City’s Democratic chairman and the chief of staff to DeGise. The city’s Democratic organization is backing Healy and with many of DeGise’s allies lining up with Healy, the councilman may end up being the best-funded candidate in the race. Gaughan estimated that a Healy fundraiser earlier this week attracted 650 people. Jersey City’s population is divided roughly evenly between whites, blacks and Hispanics, and Gaughan predicted that Healy, who is white, will best Manzo, who is also white, by making more inroads into the Hispanic community. The city’s two Hispanic councilmen, Mariano Vega and Junior Maldonado, are both Healy supporters. “I personally believe this is going to be won by a coalition of whites and Hispanics,” said Gaughan. Among African-Americans, whose near-unanimous support helped make Cunningham the city’s first black mayor in 2001, loyalties seem to be divided, mostly between Smith and Flood, the two African-Americans in the race. The entry of Flood, who was a close ally of Cunningham and who is running as the candidate of “The Cunningham Team,” was devastating to Smith, insiders say, since Smith is considered a pariah by many black voters because of his very public clashes with Cunningham. “He doesn’t understand this, and I don’t know his people understand it,” one Democratic insider said of Smith, “but being the acting mayor will probably only get him a little boost, and he doesn’t have what should be his own base. And if you don’t have your own base, you have nothing. It’s clear the majority of the African-American community is not with him.” If Flood can pull a significant chuck of African-American votes, she could rise as high as second place, some say, though it’s unlikely she will win because her support seems limited to the black community. Cunningham’s sudden death in May triggered the special election, and even in death he’s cast a shadow on the contest. His widow, Sandra Bolden-Cunningham, declined to run, even though she was seen as the likely frontrunner if she entered. The late mayor’s political organization, which was never that strong and was built largely on the popularity of Cunningham himself, could play a role in deciding the winner but it seems split. Bolden-Cunningham and Eugene Drayton, one of Cunningham’s deputy mayors, have endorsed Buonocore, while Bobby Jackson and Joe Cardwell, two key players in the Cunningham machine, are with Flood. Some say the quartet broke up over the question of who should control the purse-strings of the various Cunningham campaign funds. Bolden-Cunningham’s support of Buonocore makes him a factor, observers say, but she has not taken a very active role in his effort. Speculation is that she won’t end up delivering many loyalists of the late mayor to the police chief. “Why are black voters going to go with the white police chief?” one insider asked bluntly. “I think Willie Flood has more of a chance (of winning Cunningham voters), given that ‘The Cunningham Team’ is her slogan,” said another neutral insider. “And I think people really understand that she would be Glenn’s pick.” The winner of the special election will be sworn in immediately and will serve at least through next spring’s regularly scheduled municipal election. Steve Kornacki can be reached at kornackinj@aol.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaughan?“I personally believe this is going to be won by a coalition of whites and Hispanics,” said Gaughan. posted Message 5955 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 18:30:07 Subject: Interview with Politics NJ .com “I don’t think it’s so much that he has a base,” the elected official said of Manzo’s frontrunner status. “I think it’s the fact of historical name recognition. Obviously the Assembly race last year boosted his name, and in a race like this, name recognition is a major factor. And when he ran in ‘92, remember, Lou got 14 percent of the vote and his brother got 13 percent, so together that would have been 27 percent.” “I personally believe this is going to be won by a coalition of whites and Hispanics,” said Gaughan. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5956 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 19:36:15 Subject: Re: Online Video: Lipski Answers Reporters' Questions Lipski - What a geek ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pitcher catcher posted Message 5957 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 19:38:03 Subject: Who? Who got hit on the chin with more balls? Yogi Berra or Lou Manzo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5958 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 19:44:22 Subject: Who? Who got hit on the chin with more balls? Yogi Berra or Lou Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** according to Gaughan posted Message 5959 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 20:56:46 Subject: So let's see if I got this right ::::Homosexuality is an illness and the black population doesn't figue into the voting mix. Remember, you get Bill and his son-in-law, the charming, foul mouthed, drunken Mr. Dickson when you vote for Mr. Healy. Boy, I cannot wait. : “I don’t think it’s so much that he has a base,” the elected official said of Manzo’s frontrunner status. “I think it’s the fact of historical name recognition. Obviously the Assembly race last year boosted his name, and in a race like this, name recognition is a major factor. And when he ran in ‘92, remember, Lou got 14 percent of the vote and his brother got 13 percent, so together that would have been 27 percent.” : “I personally believe this is going to be won by a coalition of whites and Hispanics,” said Gaughan. ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 5960 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 21:06:20 Subject: Re: So let's see if I got this right : ::::Homosexuality is an illness and the black population doesn't figue into the voting mix. Remember, you get Bill and his son-in-law, the charming, foul mouthed, drunken Mr. Dickson when you vote for Mr. Healy. Boy, I cannot wait. : : “I don’t think it’s so much that he has a base,” the elected official said of Manzo’s frontrunner status. “I think it’s the fact of historical name recognition. Obviously the Assembly race last year boosted his name, and in a race like this, name recognition is a major factor. And when he ran in ‘92, remember, Lou got 14 percent of the vote and his brother got 13 percent, so together that would have been 27 percent.” : : “I personally believe this is going to be won by a coalition of whites and Hispanics,” said Gaughan. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Observer posted Message 5961 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 23:21:26 Subject: I heard that Ron Buonocore ... has been ruled ineligible to run by County Clerk Javier Inclan. Anyone else hear about it ?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The shoe falls posted Message 5962 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 23:26:54 Subject: Re: I heard that Ron Buonocore ... I heard this rumour too. Heard that a certain former mayor was in the County Clerk's office late in the day with all the proof necessary to have Bounocore thrown off the ballot. : has been ruled ineligible to run by County Clerk Javier Inclan. : Anyone else hear about it ?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 5963 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 23:27:57 Subject: Mistress of Pork These days, any fool can get a Masters. And teaching for 30 years in the horrible Jersey City School System proves nothing. The highlight of Willie's resume is a distinguished career feeding at the public trough. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Observer posted Message 5964 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 23:39:15 Subject: Kabili Tayari for Senate ? I also heard that Kabili Tayari, Tony Chiappone and some guy named John Watson had filed to run against Joe Doria for State Senate. Karen DeSoto did not file petitions. Any truth to this ?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** From PoliticsNJ posted Message 5965 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 15, 2004 at 23:54:32 Subject: PoliticsNJ CHIAPPONE TO CHALLENGE DORIA FOR SENATE Democratic Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone has filed an an Independent candidate for State Senator in the 31st district, challenging incumbent Joseph Doria for the unexpired term of the late Glenn Cunningham. Chiappone narrowly defeated Doria in the 2003 Democratic Assembly primary, ending Doria's 24-year career in the lower house. Chiappone ran on Cunningham's ticket, while Doria was slated with organization candidate L. Harvey Smith. The two are rivals in Bayonne, where Doria is the Mayor and Chiappone is a City Councilman. Also filing as Independents were former Jersey City Board of Education President Kabili Tayari, the President of the Jersey Chapter of the NAACP and the Director of the Division of Equal Opportunity under Cunningham, and John Watson, a pharmacist from Jersey City. Republicans did not nominate a candidate. Doria was unopposed in a special election convention for Senate following Cunningham's death last May. (09/15/04) ***************** End Of Article ****************** CLAUDIA BERRIOS posted Message 5966 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 00:10:21 Subject: Yeah but Who? Q: Who has been hit more times on the chin with balls? Yogi Berra or Lou Manzo? A: Who else? BUT LOU! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CLAUDIA BERRIOS posted Message 5967 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 00:10:22 Subject: Yeah but Who? Q: Who has been hit more times on the chin with balls? Yogi Berra or Lou Manzo? A: Who else? BUT LOU! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAYE3 posted Message 5968 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 00:26:12 Subject: Re: McCann files for Mayor HA HA HA AGAIN WHY? HE CANT RUN BESIDES HE LOST TO A 82 YEAR OLD GENT WHO DIDNT CAMPAIGN FOR COMMITEE MAN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAYE3 posted Message 5969 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 00:29:28 Subject: TWO MANZOS I HEARD ANOTHER MANZO FILED FOR MAYOR. IF THIS IS TRUE COULD IT BE A REPEAT OF 1992 WHEN THE BROTHERS MANZO OFFSET EACH OTHER AND UNKNOWN SCHUNDLER WON. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 5970 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 00:58:06 Subject: Re: TWO MANZOS Nope, A Healy Supporter named manzo was to enter the race, but at the last moment.. yes believe it or nor... Healy told the guy NO... His campaign staff was upset, but it drew the Lou Manzo campaign nuts, Healy was a stand up guy and wanted to beat Manzo outright. No comment on Healy's decision. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAY3 posted Message 5971 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 02:09:29 Subject: Re: TWO MANZOS IT GOES TO SHOW JERRY HEALY IS A LEGIT GUY WHERAS THE PEOPLE AT LOUS CAMP ARE VERY SHADY HEALY WILL WIN NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.BECAUSE HE IS HONEST AND HAS INTEGRITY. SOMETHING FEW POLITICIANS HAVE. GOOD LUCK JERRY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** so loyal to this group posted Message 5972 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 07:15:07 Subject: What makes you fools :::Time and time again, I know people who get screwed by this group but when the stalest and smallest amount of crumbs are offered go running back. I didn't realize that there were so many weak minded in the City. They think they are the modern day Hague's but they give nothing back. My condolences Jerry, you are a nice person but you ARE lying with the dogs. : IT GOES TO SHOW JERRY HEALY IS A LEGIT GUY : WHERAS THE PEOPLE AT LOUS CAMP ARE VERY SHADY HEALY : WILL WIN NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.BECAUSE HE IS HONEST AND HAS INTEGRITY. : SOMETHING FEW POLITICIANS HAVE. : GOOD LUCK JERRY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Scheduler posted Message 5973 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 09:35:41 Subject: Beyond his limits So who was really responsible for pushing Mayor Cunningham past his limits? Sounds like his close advisors are the ones who killed him. From the Jersey Journal: Before his death, Bolden Cunningham said, the mayor didn't show any signs of illness. "His schedule was MURDEROUS," she said, also blaming the stress of political infighting for taking a toll. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 5974 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 11:08:10 Subject: GAUGHAN CONTROLS HISPANICS ? EVERYONE KNOWS BILL GAUGHAN IS A BIGGOT AND NOW HE STATES HE CONTROLS THE HISPANCIS. IT WAS OVERHEARD THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE CASINO (AT THE BAR OF COURSE ) BILL GAUGHAN SAID WE GOT THE PUERTO RICAN BA$TARDS RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM. HE IS NOTHING BUT A BIGGOT AND WHOEVER VOTES FOR HEALY VOTES FOR BIGGOTRY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THAT POST IS TOTAL RACIST CRAP posted Message 5975 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 11:18:00 Subject: Re: GAUGHAN CONTROLS HISPANICS ? AMAZING HOW WHEN A CAMPAIGN SHIP BEGINS TO TAKES ON WATER, THEY PULL OUT THE RACE CARD AND CALL THEIR OPPONENTS RACISTS. COUNCILMAN GAUGHAN WAS EXTREMELY PLEASED THAT JUNIOR MALDANADO AND OTHER NOTABLE HISPANIC LEADERS JOINED THE GATHERING IN SUPPORT OF JERRY HEALY. THAT MUST REALLY GET THE GOAT OF YOU PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY FOR GRANTED. JERRY NOR BILL GAUGHAN WOULD NEVER TAKE A SINGLE VOTE FOR GRANTED, MUCH LESS DEMEAN AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN THE WAY THE PERSON THROWING AROUND THESE CHARGES HAS DONE. : EVERYONE KNOWS BILL GAUGHAN IS A BIGGOT AND NOW HE STATES HE CONTROLS THE HISPANCIS. IT WAS OVERHEARD THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE : CASINO (AT THE BAR OF COURSE ) BILL GAUGHAN SAID WE GOT THE PUERTO RICAN BA$TARDS RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM. : HE IS NOTHING BUT A BIGGOT AND WHOEVER VOTES FOR HEALY VOTES FOR BIGGOTRY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Smith stoops to playing race card posted Message 5976 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 11:29:21 Subject: BB KING - always racist...always wrong BB King works for the Smith campaign. His sole purpose is to put up imflamatory posts calling people racists in an effort to bring minority voters "home" to Smith. No doubt it will backfire since no community likes to think of themselves as sheep being hearded by someone playing the race card. Try again Harvey... this tactic just won't work. : EVERYONE KNOWS BILL GAUGHAN IS A BIGGOT AND NOW HE STATES HE CONTROLS THE HISPANCIS. IT WAS OVERHEARD THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE : CASINO (AT THE BAR OF COURSE ) BILL GAUGHAN SAID WE GOT THE PUERTO RICAN BA$TARDS RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM. : HE IS NOTHING BUT A BIGGOT AND WHOEVER VOTES FOR HEALY VOTES FOR BIGGOTRY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 5977 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 11:40:20 Subject: Re: GAUGHAN CONTROLS HISPANICS ? JUNIOR MALDONADO WOULD MAKE A FINE MAYORAL CANIDATE BUT HE WOULD NOT GET ANY SUPPORT FROM GAUGHAN AND DEGISE BECAUSE THEY ARE BIGGOTS AND DON'T APPROVE OF ANYONE BUT A WHITE TO BE IN A TOP POSITION.DEGISE/GAUGHAN GIVE HE A JOB WITH THE COUNTY AND TELL HIM TO KEEP QUIET AND DO WHATEVER THEY SAY.IN OTHER WORDS MALDONADO AND ALL OF THE PUERTO RICAN VOTE HE COULD MUSTER UP ARE BICHEZ FOR THE HEALY CAMP,THAT IS WHY MENENDEZ IS ON THE OUTS WITH THESE TWO THUGS. MENENDEZ WANTED HARVEY SMITH TO BE THE CANIDATE AND THEY REFUSED BECAUSE HE IS BLACK . GAUGHAN AND DEGISE WENT TO BILL O'DEA TO SEE IF HE WOULD RUN BUT HE DECLINED SO THEY SUKKERED HEALY INTO THE MAYORAL RACE. JERRY HEALY IS NOT EVEN THEIR FIRST CHOICE SO WHY SHOULD JERSEY CITY SETTLE FOR NOTHING LESS THAN A TOP CHOICE CANIDATE. : AMAZING HOW WHEN A CAMPAIGN SHIP BEGINS TO TAKES ON WATER, THEY PULL OUT THE RACE CARD AND CALL THEIR OPPONENTS RACISTS. COUNCILMAN GAUGHAN WAS EXTREMELY PLEASED THAT JUNIOR MALDANADO AND OTHER NOTABLE HISPANIC LEADERS JOINED THE GATHERING IN SUPPORT OF JERRY HEALY. THAT MUST REALLY GET THE GOAT OF YOU PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY FOR GRANTED. JERRY NOR BILL GAUGHAN WOULD NEVER TAKE A SINGLE VOTE FOR GRANTED, MUCH LESS DEMEAN AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN THE WAY THE PERSON THROWING AROUND THESE CHARGES HAS DONE. : : : EVERYONE KNOWS BILL GAUGHAN IS A BIGGOT AND NOW HE STATES HE CONTROLS THE HISPANCIS. IT WAS OVERHEARD THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE : : CASINO (AT THE BAR OF COURSE ) BILL GAUGHAN SAID WE GOT THE PUERTO RICAN BA$TARDS RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM. : : HE IS NOTHING BUT A BIGGOT AND WHOEVER VOTES FOR HEALY VOTES FOR BIGGOTRY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 5978 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 11:44:15 Subject: Re: HEALY NOT EVEN TOP CHOICE CANIDATE : JUNIOR MALDONADO WOULD MAKE A FINE MAYORAL CANIDATE BUT HE WOULD NOT GET ANY SUPPORT FROM GAUGHAN AND DEGISE BECAUSE THEY ARE BIGGOTS AND DON'T APPROVE OF ANYONE BUT A WHITE TO BE IN A TOP POSITION.DEGISE/GAUGHAN GIVE HE A JOB WITH THE COUNTY AND TELL HIM TO KEEP QUIET AND DO WHATEVER THEY SAY.IN OTHER WORDS MALDONADO AND ALL OF THE PUERTO RICAN VOTE HE COULD MUSTER UP ARE BICHEZ FOR THE HEALY CAMP,THAT IS WHY MENENDEZ IS ON THE OUTS WITH THESE TWO THUGS. MENENDEZ WANTED HARVEY SMITH TO BE THE CANIDATE AND THEY REFUSED BECAUSE HE IS BLACK . GAUGHAN AND DEGISE WENT TO BILL O'DEA TO SEE IF HE WOULD RUN BUT HE DECLINED SO THEY SUKKERED HEALY INTO THE MAYORAL RACE. JERRY HEALY IS NOT EVEN THEIR FIRST CHOICE SO WHY SHOULD JERSEY CITY SETTLE FOR NOTHING LESS THAN A TOP CHOICE CANIDATE. : : AMAZING HOW WHEN A CAMPAIGN SHIP BEGINS TO TAKES ON WATER, THEY PULL OUT THE RACE CARD AND CALL THEIR OPPONENTS RACISTS. COUNCILMAN GAUGHAN WAS EXTREMELY PLEASED THAT JUNIOR MALDANADO AND OTHER NOTABLE HISPANIC LEADERS JOINED THE GATHERING IN SUPPORT OF JERRY HEALY. THAT MUST REALLY GET THE GOAT OF YOU PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY FOR GRANTED. JERRY NOR BILL GAUGHAN WOULD NEVER TAKE A SINGLE VOTE FOR GRANTED, MUCH LESS DEMEAN AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN THE WAY THE PERSON THROWING AROUND THESE CHARGES HAS DONE. : : : : : EVERYONE KNOWS BILL GAUGHAN IS A BIGGOT AND NOW HE STATES HE CONTROLS THE HISPANCIS. IT WAS OVERHEARD THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE : : : CASINO (AT THE BAR OF COURSE ) BILL GAUGHAN SAID WE GOT THE PUERTO RICAN BA$TARDS RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM. : : : HE IS NOTHING BUT A BIGGOT AND WHOEVER VOTES FOR HEALY VOTES FOR BIGGOTRY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I have a bridge you can buy. posted Message 5979 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 11:47:56 Subject: If you believe Gaughan not a bigot : AMAZING HOW WHEN A CAMPAIGN SHIP BEGINS TO TAKES ON WATER, THEY PULL OUT THE RACE CARD AND CALL THEIR OPPONENTS RACISTS. COUNCILMAN GAUGHAN WAS EXTREMELY PLEASED THAT JUNIOR MALDANADO AND OTHER NOTABLE HISPANIC LEADERS JOINED THE GATHERING IN SUPPORT OF JERRY HEALY. THAT MUST REALLY GET THE GOAT OF YOU PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY FOR GRANTED. JERRY NOR BILL GAUGHAN WOULD NEVER TAKE A SINGLE VOTE FOR GRANTED, MUCH LESS DEMEAN AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN THE WAY THE PERSON THROWING AROUND THESE CHARGES HAS DONE. : : : EVERYONE KNOWS BILL GAUGHAN IS A BIGGOT AND NOW HE STATES HE CONTROLS THE HISPANCIS. IT WAS OVERHEARD THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE : : CASINO (AT THE BAR OF COURSE ) BILL GAUGHAN SAID WE GOT THE PUERTO RICAN BA$TARDS RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM. : : HE IS NOTHING BUT A BIGGOT AND WHOEVER VOTES FOR HEALY VOTES FOR BIGGOTRY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Down Boy.... posted Message 5980 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 11:53:35 Subject: Ease up on the Caffeine BB Just because you are frustrated with the current cast of players in the Mayoral race... and the fact that hispanics are not represented...is no reason to throw around the labels of racist and bigot again. And despite the fact that you say Junior would make a good Mayor...you belittle him by saying he and the votes he brings are all a bunch of bichez for Healy. You demean and belittle the entire Hispanic community with such baseless charges. And you may want to check with Rudy Garcia. He was at Healy's fundraiser too. You think he's a Healy bi(t)ch? : JUNIOR MALDONADO WOULD MAKE A FINE MAYORAL CANIDATE BUT HE WOULD NOT GET ANY SUPPORT FROM GAUGHAN AND DEGISE BECAUSE THEY ARE BIGGOTS AND DON'T APPROVE OF ANYONE BUT A WHITE TO BE IN A TOP POSITION.DEGISE/GAUGHAN GIVE HE A JOB WITH THE COUNTY AND TELL HIM TO KEEP QUIET AND DO WHATEVER THEY SAY.IN OTHER WORDS MALDONADO AND ALL OF THE PUERTO RICAN VOTE HE COULD MUSTER UP ARE BICHEZ FOR THE HEALY CAMP,THAT IS WHY MENENDEZ IS ON THE OUTS WITH THESE TWO THUGS. MENENDEZ WANTED HARVEY SMITH TO BE THE CANIDATE AND THEY REFUSED BECAUSE HE IS BLACK . GAUGHAN AND DEGISE WENT TO BILL O'DEA TO SEE IF HE WOULD RUN BUT HE DECLINED SO THEY SUKKERED HEALY INTO THE MAYORAL RACE. JERRY HEALY IS NOT EVEN THEIR FIRST CHOICE SO WHY SHOULD JERSEY CITY SETTLE FOR NOTHING LESS THAN A TOP CHOICE CANIDATE. : : AMAZING HOW WHEN A CAMPAIGN SHIP BEGINS TO TAKES ON WATER, THEY PULL OUT THE RACE CARD AND CALL THEIR OPPONENTS RACISTS. COUNCILMAN GAUGHAN WAS EXTREMELY PLEASED THAT JUNIOR MALDANADO AND OTHER NOTABLE HISPANIC LEADERS JOINED THE GATHERING IN SUPPORT OF JERRY HEALY. THAT MUST REALLY GET THE GOAT OF YOU PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY FOR GRANTED. JERRY NOR BILL GAUGHAN WOULD NEVER TAKE A SINGLE VOTE FOR GRANTED, MUCH LESS DEMEAN AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN THE WAY THE PERSON THROWING AROUND THESE CHARGES HAS DONE. : : : : : EVERYONE KNOWS BILL GAUGHAN IS A BIGGOT AND NOW HE STATES HE CONTROLS THE HISPANCIS. IT WAS OVERHEARD THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE : : : CASINO (AT THE BAR OF COURSE ) BILL GAUGHAN SAID WE GOT THE PUERTO RICAN BA$TARDS RIGHT WHERE WE WANT THEM. : : : HE IS NOTHING BUT A BIGGOT AND WHOEVER VOTES FOR HEALY VOTES FOR BIGGOTRY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5981 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 12:06:17 Subject: Kabili Tayari is running for the State Senate in the 31st With the backing of the Reform Democrats, Kabili Tayari is running for the State Senate in the 31st District -- the remaining five years of Glenn Cunningham's term. Mr. Tayari will be running with Willie Flood (for Mayor) and Jeff Dublin (for Freeholder). ***************** End Of Article ****************** look at the picure and see! posted Message 5982 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 12:26:42 Subject: Healy has 2 a$$holes Trying to keep up drinking with BIll Gaughan Jerry Healy passed out stewed. The police were going to drive him home so they were asking Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan with Healy Lived. Gaughan just kept nipping at a fifth of fleischmann's and singing Oh Danny Boy. Tom Degise said that he didn't know where Healy live because Lois always told the drive where to go. So then the police asked what Healy's home telephone number was so they could call and get the address. Gaughan just kept swigging away at the bottle and now was singing Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra. Degise said that he didn't know what Healy's phone number was because Lois always dialed the phone for him. So the police then asked where Healy's kids lived. They would get in touch with them and find out from them where Healy lived. Gaugan took another drink out of the bottle and then wailed into McNamara'a Band. Degise said that he had no idea how to get in touch with Healy's children because Lois kept track of that for him. At their wit's end, the policeman said listen, you're backing this guy for mayor you got to know something about him. Well Degise says Jerry Healy has two a$$holes. Taking a step back the cop says, listen, you don't know where he lives, you don't know his phone number, you don't know how to get in touch with his kids, but you knows that Healy has two a$$holes! How do you know that? Well Degise says every night when Healy, Gaughan, and I goes to the Tavern up the block, the bar tender yells here comes that guy Jerry with the two a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALYFORMAYOR posted Message 5983 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 12:45:44 Subject: Re: Healy has 2 a$$holes : WOW. YOU MUST HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOURSELF!HOW PATHETIC! GO JERRY! HEALY FOR MAYOR!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy for rehab posted Message 5984 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 13:09:12 Subject: Re: Healy has 2 a$$holes : : WOW. YOU MUST HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOURSELF JERRY!HOW PATHETIC! GO JERRY!GO DRINK YOUSELF SILLY AND TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF AND SOIL YOURSELF!! HEALY FOR REHAB!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** More Crap from BB KING posted Message 5985 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 13:21:09 Subject: This Guy BB King is as low as they go Its an amazing thing that when people like this a$$hole BB KING have nothing constructive to say....they crawl into a bottle, and in an obviously drunken stooper....spew garbage across cyber-space. And since BB King has been shown to be nothing more than a racist slob, now he's using a variety of aliases. Such small minds... such small lives.... such a fantasy life. Keep taking shots at Jerry. It assures us that you are afraid of the momentum he's building. And it assues us we are making you sweat like the slob you are. : Trying to keep up drinking with BIll Gaughan Jerry Healy passed out stewed. The police were going to drive him home so they were asking Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan with Healy Lived. Gaughan just kept nipping at a fifth of fleischmann's and singing Oh Danny Boy. Tom Degise said that he didn't know where Healy live because Lois always told the drive where to go. So then the police asked what Healy's home telephone number was so they could call and get the address. Gaughan just kept swigging away at the bottle and now was singing Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra. Degise said that he didn't know what Healy's phone number was because Lois always dialed the phone for him. So the police then asked where Healy's kids lived. They would get in touch with them and find out from them where Healy lived. Gaugan took another drink out of the bottle and then wailed into McNamara'a Band. Degise said that he had no idea how to get in touch with Healy's children because Lois kept track of that for him. At their wit's end, the policeman said listen, you're backing this guy for mayor you got to know something about him. Well Degise says Jerry Healy has two a$$holes. Taking a step back the cop says, listen, you don't know where he lives, you don't know his phone number, you don't know how to get in touch with his kids, but you knows that Healy has two a$$holes! How do you know that? Well Degise says every night when Healy, Gaughan, and I goes to the Tavern up the block, the bar tender yells here comes that guy Jerry with the two a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Smith will be run out of office on a rail posted Message 5986 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 13:26:04 Subject: Immature and pathetic This is the level of commentary you can expect from the losers aligned with Smith and Manzo. Smith killed Cunningham. Manzo is a 4-time loser who can't find the doorhandle to his closet. Nothing more needs to be said. : : : WOW. YOU MUST HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOURSELF JERRY!HOW PATHETIC! GO JERRY!GO DRINK YOUSELF SILLY AND TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF AND SOIL YOURSELF!! HEALY FOR REHAB!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** In the Mirror posted Message 5987 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 13:33:18 Subject: Homos for Manzo....how pathetic What a joke....some a$$hole calling himself Homos for Manzo is gonna call someone else a geek. What a poor excuse for a human being. A brain dead putz. This board would be better served if this guy's head were used as a butt plug. Oh yeah.... it already is. : Lipski - What a geek ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 5988 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 13:35:39 Subject: Tonight's Manzo Event -- Melissa Holloway to be Deputy Mayor Lou Manzo for Mayor is holding a fundraiser tonight at the Casino in the Park. The mixed drinl hour is at 6PM ($500); the dinner is at 7PM ($125). I'm told that Melissa Holloway will be there. Lou Manzo will announce that if elected he intends to appoint her to the post of Deputy Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 5989 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 13:41:12 Subject: Re: This Guy BB King is as low as they go Is he related to Jimmy King? : Its an amazing thing that when people like this a$$hole BB KING have nothing constructive to say....they crawl into a bottle, and in an obviously drunken stooper....spew garbage across cyber-space. And since BB King has been shown to be nothing more than a racist slob, now he's using a variety of aliases. Such small minds... such small lives.... such a fantasy life. : Keep taking shots at Jerry. It assures us that you are afraid of the momentum he's building. And it assues us we are making you sweat like the slob you are. : : Trying to keep up drinking with BIll Gaughan Jerry Healy passed out stewed. The police were going to drive him home so they were asking Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan with Healy Lived. Gaughan just kept nipping at a fifth of fleischmann's and singing Oh Danny Boy. Tom Degise said that he didn't know where Healy live because Lois always told the drive where to go. So then the police asked what Healy's home telephone number was so they could call and get the address. Gaughan just kept swigging away at the bottle and now was singing Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra. Degise said that he didn't know what Healy's phone number was because Lois always dialed the phone for him. So the police then asked where Healy's kids lived. They would get in touch with them and find out from them where Healy lived. Gaugan took another drink out of the bottle and then wailed into McNamara'a Band. Degise said that he had no idea how to get in touch with Healy's children because Lois kept track of that for him. At their wit's end, the policeman said listen, you're backing this guy for mayor you got to know something about him. Well Degise says Jerry Healy has two a$$holes. Taking a step back the cop says, listen, you don't know where he lives, you don't know his phone number, you don't know how to get in touch with his kids, but you knows that Healy has two a$$holes! How do you know that? Well Degise says every night when Healy, Gaughan, and I goes to the Tavern up the block, the bar tender yells here comes that guy Jerry with the two a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hey Fellar posted Message 5990 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 13:44:20 Subject: Cucci leaves Smith campaign and is now with Ron Buonocore. God Bless Ron the ONLY man for the job! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NO surprise posted Message 5991 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 13:46:47 Subject: Re: This Guy BB King is as low as they go Who knows who he's related to. But having read some of the posts he put up here, nothing would surprise me about that lowlife. But I would think he's related to people more like Farrakahan, or OJ. : Is he related to Jimmy King? : : Its an amazing thing that when people like this a$$hole BB KING have nothing constructive to say....they crawl into a bottle, and in an obviously drunken stooper....spew garbage across cyber-space. And since BB King has been shown to be nothing more than a racist slob, now he's using a variety of aliases. Such small minds... such small lives.... such a fantasy life. : : Keep taking shots at Jerry. It assures us that you are afraid of the momentum he's building. And it assues us we are making you sweat like the slob you are. : : : Trying to keep up drinking with BIll Gaughan Jerry Healy passed out stewed. The police were going to drive him home so they were asking Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan with Healy Lived. Gaughan just kept nipping at a fifth of fleischmann's and singing Oh Danny Boy. Tom Degise said that he didn't know where Healy live because Lois always told the drive where to go. So then the police asked what Healy's home telephone number was so they could call and get the address. Gaughan just kept swigging away at the bottle and now was singing Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra. Degise said that he didn't know what Healy's phone number was because Lois always dialed the phone for him. So the police then asked where Healy's kids lived. They would get in touch with them and find out from them where Healy lived. Gaugan took another drink out of the bottle and then wailed into McNamara'a Band. Degise said that he had no idea how to get in touch with Healy's children because Lois kept track of that for him. At their wit's end, the policeman said listen, you're backing this guy for mayor you got to know something about him. Well Degise says Jerry Healy has two a$$holes. Taking a step back the cop says, listen, you don't know where he lives, you don't know his phone number, you don't know how to get in touch with his kids, but you knows that Healy has two a$$holes! How do you know that? Well Degise says every night when Healy, Gaughan, and I goes to the Tavern up the block, the bar tender yells here comes that guy Jerry with the two a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 5992 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 13:53:24 Subject: MANZO EVENT I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY LIQUOR BEING SERVED DUE TO THE HEALY EVENT ON TUESDAY. GAUGHAN DEGISE HEALY DEMELIER AND BRENNAN WERE ALL THERE AND THEY DRANK EVERY LAST DROP OF ALCOHOL IN THE PLACE. THE CASINO SAID THERE WILL BE A LARGE SELECTION OF FOOD BEING SERVED. THE ONLY FOOD THEY RAN OUT OF ON TUESDAY WAS THE RIGATONI IN VODKA SAUCE. GAUGHAN FINISHED ALL THE VODKA SAUCE HIMSELF BY 730PM. HE WAS SEEN DRINKING IT OUT OF A PINT GLASS. : Lou Manzo for Mayor is holding a fundraiser tonight at the Casino in the Park. The mixed drinl hour is at 6PM ($500); the dinner is at 7PM ($125). : I'm told that Melissa Holloway will be there. Lou Manzo will announce that if elected he intends to appoint her to the post of Deputy Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Serious posted Message 5993 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 14:19:17 Subject: Re: Mistress of Pork Whoooooooooooo!!! : These days, any fool can get a Masters. And teaching for 30 years in the horrible Jersey City School System proves nothing. : The highlight of Willie's resume is a distinguished career feeding at the public trough. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 5994 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 14:36:44 Subject: AL PINE I HEARD HE IS RELATED TO JERRY HEALY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HFM posted Message 5995 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 14:39:42 Subject: Re: AL PINE : GET A LIFE ! YOU ARE SO PATHETIC! YOUR POSTS ARE SO IMMATURE! YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ANYONE OR ANYTHING!YOU ARE AN IDIOT!. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Crabtree posted Message 5996 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 14:44:36 Subject: Ebonics 101 It's CANDIDATE Mr. BB Now put on your dunce's cap and sit in the corner. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Church Lady posted Message 5997 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 14:48:19 Subject: Could it be .... VIAGGRA ?! That Sandy is a real vixen. She gave the poor man a heart attack with all those bedroom gymnastics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HHJHJJH posted Message 5998 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 14:50:49 Subject: Re: Immature and pathetic : : : : : WOW. YOU MUST HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOURSELF JERRY!HOW PATHETIC! GO JERRY!GO DRINK YOUSELF SILLY AND TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF AND SOIL YOURSELF!! HEALY FOR REHAB!! WOW YOUR GRAMMER IS GREAT! NO WONDER YOU ARE ON HERE BAD MOUTHING AN EDUCATED CANDIDATE! JEALOUS ARE WE? AFRAID ? YOU KNOW JERRY IS OUR NEXT MAYOR SO GIVE IT UP YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE FACT THAT VOTERS KNOW JERRY IS THE ONLY MAN WHO DESERVES TO BE OUR MAYOR AND THE ONLY MAN WHO WILL CHANGE OUR CITY FOR THE BETTER. :) HAVE A GREAT DAY!! BB KING GO TAKE SOME CLASSES OR SOMETHING! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Any thoughts : posted Message 5999 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 15:02:24 Subject: Who is in the lead ? Who is in the lead now and how do you think they will finish ? Flood Healy Smith Manzo Buonocore Carroll Lipski (this is just random order) ***************** End Of Article ****************** jw posted Message 6000 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 15:14:23 Subject: Re: Who is in the lead ? : Who is in the lead now and how do you think they will finish ? : Flood Healy Smith Manzo Buonocore Carroll Lipski : (this is just random order) i say manzo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil posted Message 6001 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 15:38:38 Subject: Re: Who is in the lead ? Willie Flood is in the lead and will finish 1st. She has told everyone to drop out so I guess she will win. : : Who is in the lead now and how do you think they will finish ? : : Flood Healy Smith Manzo Buonocore Carroll Lipski : : (this is just random order) : i say manzo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Teacher posted Message 6002 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 16:45:18 Subject: BB is a dumbass You gotta give good ole racist BB a little leaway. He's a little touched. : It's CANDIDATE Mr. BB : Now put on your dunce's cap and sit in the corner. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're a LOSER posted Message 6003 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 16:46:28 Subject: BB KING IS A DUMBASS NOTHING more needs to be said. BB King is a Dumbass. Game...set....match. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HIV Monster posted Message 6004 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 20:07:24 Subject: Manzo Lou Manzo is running because it's his last hurray. Whispers in the camapign say, because of his lifestyle, HIV has finally caught up to him and he wants to take one last shot at the prized mayoral seat. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 6005 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 20:10:18 Subject: Re: Homos for Manzo....how pathetic You are my little butt plug In The Mirror. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 6006 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 20:11:21 Subject: Re: Manzo Lou come out of the closet, we all feel for you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth hurts... posted Message 6007 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 22:34:54 Subject: Re: Healy camp alledgedly paying bounty to have other canidates run with same name I guess it is true, there is another Manzo running for Mayor, He has no connections at all to government, or any experience of any kind, and no endorsements from anyone,.... So HE's GOT MY VOTE! Go Manzo,... the other Manzo, that is! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get a sense of humor and a personality posted Message 6008 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 23:27:32 Subject: you angry little person. : : WOW. YOU MUST HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOURSELF!HOW PATHETIC! GO JERRY! HEALY FOR MAYOR!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Before the blood shoots out of your head posted Message 6009 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 23:29:30 Subject: Take you Lipator : : : : : : WOW. YOU MUST HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOURSELF JERRY!HOW PATHETIC! GO JERRY!GO DRINK YOUSELF SILLY AND TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF AND SOIL YOURSELF!! HEALY FOR REHAB!! : WOW YOUR GRAMMER IS GREAT! NO WONDER YOU ARE ON HERE BAD MOUTHING AN EDUCATED CANDIDATE! JEALOUS ARE WE? AFRAID ? YOU KNOW JERRY IS OUR NEXT MAYOR SO GIVE IT UP YOUR COMMENTS ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE FACT THAT VOTERS KNOW JERRY IS THE ONLY MAN WHO DESERVES TO BE OUR MAYOR AND THE ONLY MAN WHO WILL CHANGE OUR CITY FOR THE BETTER. :) HAVE A GREAT DAY!! BB KING GO TAKE SOME CLASSES OR SOMETHING! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well it takes one to know one bonehead posted Message 6010 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 23:31:28 Subject: You scream and yell and call everyone names : : GET A LIFE ! YOU ARE SO PATHETIC! YOUR POSTS ARE SO IMMATURE! YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ANYONE OR ANYTHING!YOU ARE AN IDIOT!. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAYE084 posted Message 6011 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 16, 2004 at 23:44:42 Subject: Re: Tonight's Manzo Event -- Melissa Holloway to be Deputy Mayor MANZO EVENT A FLOP ONLY HALF THE CROWD HEALY HAD EXCEPT FOR THE 3BUS OF SENIORS .HEALY HAD A LOT MORE SENIORS THAT WERE DRIVEN TO THE EVENT BY THEIR CHILDREN. MANZO STARTING TO LOSE GROUND AND WILL BE OUTSPENT BY HEALY . FULL HCDO COMING OUT SOON FOR HEALY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 6012 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 00:03:22 Subject: Re: Manzo Gentleman's agreement. Healy doesn't spill the beans on Lou Manzo, the other Mnzo drops out of the race. McCann has photos, Healy has photos of Lou and pal. Gentleman's agreement, of course with McCann up until the weekend before the election! Great shot BTW of Jerry wearing that orange jumpsuit! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Only one thing wrong posted Message 6013 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 06:41:02 Subject: Lovely thought ::Lou may have Gerry BUT Jerry has TOM, BILL, BUDDY, JIMMY and Satan's handpicked own. Orange is not really Gerry's color. : Gentleman's agreement. : Healy doesn't spill the beans on Lou Manzo, the other Mnzo drops out of the race. : McCann has photos, Healy has photos of Lou and pal. : : Gentleman's agreement, of course with McCann up until the weekend before the election! : Great shot BTW of Jerry wearing that orange jumpsuit! ***************** End Of Article ****************** You were at Ray Manzo's event obviously at Gino's Pizza posted Message 6014 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 06:46:15 Subject: Re: Tonight's Manzo Event SRO at Lou's event. No one drunk (No liquor, Bill, Pete, Jerry & Tom drank place dry at their match Tues) and naked on the bar or urinating in the plants. Lovely, fun, civilized. Did see at least 3 Healy syncophants chowing down. Which one were you? : MANZO EVENT A FLOP ONLY HALF THE CROWD HEALY HAD EXCEPT FOR THE 3BUS OF SENIORS .HEALY HAD A LOT MORE SENIORS THAT WERE DRIVEN TO THE EVENT BY THEIR CHILDREN. : MANZO STARTING TO LOSE GROUND AND WILL BE OUTSPENT BY HEALY . : FULL HCDO COMING OUT SOON FOR HEALY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Me posted Message 6015 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 09:43:16 Subject: Re: Who is in the lead ?(I didn't post this.) : : Who is in the lead now and how do you think they will finish ? : : Flood Healy Smith Manzo Buonocore Carroll Lipski : : (this is just random order) : i say manzo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 6016 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 10:29:29 Subject: A bounty huh ? Father Guido Manzo .. has a nice ring to it .. and I could use the money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCann Watcher posted Message 6017 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 10:55:40 Subject: Manzo versus Manzo How interesting it is that Ray Manzo would drop out of the race only a day after the filing deadline. It really is a brilliant McCann-like political move. Afterall....Ray Manzo has had no time to do any damage to Lou Manzo. Yet now the Manzo campaign can point fingers at his opponenets and say "SEE THEY'RE NOT PLAYING FAIR". Well done Gerry. But Ray Manzo's premature withdrawl clearly shows there was no collusion with Lou's opponents. If there had been....come hell or high water....Ray Manzo would have pushed on to November. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ugh....Typical Gerry posted Message 6018 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 11:12:42 Subject: Re: Manzo versus Manzo Thought we had seen the end of this political garbage when Mccann went to jail. Rumors about personal lives, calling opponents drunks, alledging illegal behavior, running candidates with similar names as your opponents just to confuse voters....very obvious that Gerry's back. Thanks Lou. : How interesting it is that Ray Manzo would drop out of the race only a day after the filing deadline. It really is a brilliant McCann-like political move. Afterall....Ray Manzo has had no time to do any damage to Lou Manzo. Yet now the Manzo campaign can point fingers at his opponenets and say "SEE THEY'RE NOT PLAYING FAIR". : Well done Gerry. But Ray Manzo's premature withdrawl clearly shows there was no collusion with Lou's opponents. If there had been....come hell or high water....Ray Manzo would have pushed on to November. ***************** End Of Article ****************** One fault in your logic posted Message 6019 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 12:08:33 Subject: Re: Manzo versus Manzo :::Ray Manzo supports Jerry Healy. : How interesting it is that Ray Manzo would drop out of the race only a day after the filing deadline. It really is a brilliant McCann-like political move. Afterall....Ray Manzo has had no time to do any damage to Lou Manzo. Yet now the Manzo campaign can point fingers at his opponenets and say "SEE THEY'RE NOT PLAYING FAIR". : Well done Gerry. But Ray Manzo's premature withdrawl clearly shows there was no collusion with Lou's opponents. If there had been....come hell or high water....Ray Manzo would have pushed on to November. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sorry but not this Gerry posted Message 6020 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 12:10:00 Subject: Re: Manzo versus Manzo :::Good try but this particular Manzo is aligned with Jerry Healy. : Thought we had seen the end of this political garbage when Mccann went to jail. Rumors about personal lives, calling opponents drunks, alledging illegal behavior, running candidates with similar names as your opponents just to confuse voters....very obvious that Gerry's back. Thanks Lou. : : How interesting it is that Ray Manzo would drop out of the race only a day after the filing deadline. It really is a brilliant McCann-like political move. Afterall....Ray Manzo has had no time to do any damage to Lou Manzo. Yet now the Manzo campaign can point fingers at his opponenets and say "SEE THEY'RE NOT PLAYING FAIR". : : Well done Gerry. But Ray Manzo's premature withdrawl clearly shows there was no collusion with Lou's opponents. If there had been....come hell or high water....Ray Manzo would have pushed on to November. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy's camp did it posted Message 6021 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 12:28:09 Subject: Re: 2 Manzos --->Healy's camp did it Read the Journal, his people gave their signatures, they boasted and joked about getting a guy named Manzo when they were at their fundraiser Tuesday, loud enough for everyone to hear, we don't need this! I hope someone at the Journal follows the money trail..... ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 6022 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 15:09:46 Subject: Mayoral election. Now come on. Are you serious? Dors he really think he's gonna win? He has power and has to steal someone elses ideas to market himself. How stupid is he? Who will be giving him orders if he gets elected? Harvey is the biggest phony on the planet. You are right WE elected Glenn. Harvey did everything he could to stop Glenn. He was jealous and hated Glenn with a passion. He is an uncle Tom. He is not a leader. Think about it what kind of moron would do something as distastefull as firing everyone as soon as the mayor died? Or keep Mrs. Flood's paycheck. Or change the plaque for a park that he didn't have anything to do with. He is a BIG baby. He is an old school gangster and crook. People told Glenn not to deal with him but Glenn always saw the good in someone so he dealt with him and look what happened. So you are a misinformed soul Ruth. You sound like a hater. Harvey dosen't give a $hit about the people. He cares about himself. He even threatened the Muslims on Communipaw to take Willie's sign down. Stop talking that BULL$HIT he was never elected to be mayor in the first place so the people don't want him and that will definitely show in November. Get a life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 6023 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 15:16:57 Subject: A$$HOLE HARVEY He also needs to stop strongarming people to put up his signs. This really pi$$es me off. People have Willie Flood signs up he comes behind and threatens them to take them down. That suks. He is really desperate. The people of Jersey City need to wake up. He didn't even get elected to that position. And he talks about Willie is splitting his votes. He's not even supposed to be there. He wouldn't have gotten the council seat without Glenn. What a JURK!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get a clue posted Message 6024 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 15:51:53 Subject: Re: Mayoral election. If you don't like Harvey, fine. All I ask is that you keep your comments free of any stupidity. Not liking him does not give you the authority to call him Uncle Harvey. Just so YOU understand...we elected Harvey Smith as well. He won the election to be the Council President and under the current laws of succession, the Council President is next in line to the mayor's office if the Mayor cannot finish his term. As far as his firing people...many of those firings were justified (Munley to name just one of many) and these people should have NEVER been hired by Glenn in the first place. I've disagreed with Harvey in the past but I would never show the amount of disrespect that you are showing. : Now come on. Are you serious? Dors he really think he's gonna win? He has power and has to steal someone elses ideas to market himself. How stupid is he? Who will be giving him orders if he gets elected? Harvey is the biggest phony on the planet. You are right WE elected Glenn. Harvey did everything he could to stop Glenn. He was jealous and hated Glenn with a passion. He is an uncle Tom. He is not a leader. Think about it what kind of moron would do something as distastefull as firing everyone as soon as the mayor died? Or keep Mrs. Flood's paycheck. Or change the plaque for a park that he didn't have anything to do with. He is a BIG baby. He is an old school gangster and crook. People told Glenn not to deal with him but Glenn always saw the good in someone so he dealt with him and look what happened. So you are a misinformed soul Ruth. You sound like a hater. Harvey dosen't give a $hit about the people. He cares about himself. He even threatened the Muslims on Communipaw to take Willie's sign down. Stop talking that BULL$HIT he was never elected to be mayor in the first place so the people don't want him and that will definitely show in November. Get a life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 6025 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 15:53:49 Subject: Sign of Desperation The Healy camp is in panic mode. This latest move is just another sign of their desparation. DeGise didn't even win JC when he got elected, the HCDO knows that if their stooge Healy doesn;t win they are all chop meat. The buzz saws will come out and their heads will fly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ummmm... posted Message 6026 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 15:54:27 Subject: Re: HARVEY Harvey was already a sitting council person so I don't understand what you mean by he wouldn't have gotten the seat without Glenn. Glenn was a good man but he let himself be surrounded by crooks. Any campaign that those crooks have anything to do with, I will not even consider voting for. : He also needs to stop strongarming people to put up his signs. This really pi$$es me off. People have Willie Flood signs up he comes behind and threatens them to take them down. That suks. He is really desperate. The people of Jersey City need to wake up. He didn't even get elected to that position. And he talks about Willie is splitting his votes. He's not even supposed to be there. He wouldn't have gotten the council seat without Glenn. What a JURK!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not a coward. posted Message 6027 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 15:57:41 Subject: Re: Mayoral election. I don't just dislike him. That's an understatement!!! I hate him . He is a bastard and an Uncle TOM!!!! That's not all I want to call him but the censorship won't permit me to let loose. Darnnit!! Listen to me I am acting just like him at a bar. Yeah when He got in he snaked Glenn and started taking orders from Menendez! : If you don't like Harvey, fine. All I ask is that you keep your comments free of any stupidity. Not liking him does not give you the authority to call him Uncle Harvey. : Just so YOU understand...we elected Harvey Smith as well. He won the election to be the Council President and under the current laws of succession, the Council President is next in line to the mayor's office if the Mayor cannot finish his term. : As far as his firing people...many of those firings were justified (Munley to name just one of many) and these people should have NEVER been hired by Glenn in the first place. : I've disagreed with Harvey in the past but I would never show the amount of disrespect that you are showing. : : Now come on. Are you serious? Dors he really think he's gonna win? He has power and has to steal someone elses ideas to market himself. How stupid is he? Who will be giving him orders if he gets elected? Harvey is the biggest phony on the planet. You are right WE elected Glenn. Harvey did everything he could to stop Glenn. He was jealous and hated Glenn with a passion. He is an uncle Tom. He is not a leader. Think about it what kind of moron would do something as distastefull as firing everyone as soon as the mayor died? Or keep Mrs. Flood's paycheck. Or change the plaque for a park that he didn't have anything to do with. He is a BIG baby. He is an old school gangster and crook. People told Glenn not to deal with him but Glenn always saw the good in someone so he dealt with him and look what happened. So you are a misinformed soul Ruth. You sound like a hater. Harvey dosen't give a $hit about the people. He cares about himself. He even threatened the Muslims on Communipaw to take Willie's sign down. Stop talking that BULL$HIT he was never elected to be mayor in the first place so the people don't want him and that will definitely show in November. Get a life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** And Harvey's not a Crook? posted Message 6028 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 16:00:16 Subject: Re: HARVEY But where is your proof of theivery? Glenn was surrounded by business men doing exactly what the white people have been doing before Glenn got elected. Handling business!! : Harvey was already a sitting council person so I don't understand what you mean by he wouldn't have gotten the seat without Glenn. : Glenn was a good man but he let himself be surrounded by crooks. Any campaign that those crooks have anything to do with, I will not even consider voting for. : : He also needs to stop strongarming people to put up his signs. This really pi$$es me off. People have Willie Flood signs up he comes behind and threatens them to take them down. That suks. He is really desperate. The people of Jersey City need to wake up. He didn't even get elected to that position. And he talks about Willie is splitting his votes. He's not even supposed to be there. He wouldn't have gotten the council seat without Glenn. What a JURK!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 6029 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 16:00:17 Subject: caught with their pants down! Just another instance when the Healy camp got caught with their pants down. Sad. Very Sad. How low can they go? Only Jerry and Tommy Boy know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I saw him!! posted Message 6030 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 16:01:48 Subject: Re: HARVEY I saw him getting hookers on Fairmount ave before!!! He is a common NIGGA with no class!! : But where is your proof of theivery? Glenn was surrounded by business men doing exactly what the white people have been doing before Glenn got elected. Handling business!! : : Harvey was already a sitting council person so I don't understand what you mean by he wouldn't have gotten the seat without Glenn. : : Glenn was a good man but he let himself be surrounded by crooks. Any campaign that those crooks have anything to do with, I will not even consider voting for. : : : He also needs to stop strongarming people to put up his signs. This really pi$$es me off. People have Willie Flood signs up he comes behind and threatens them to take them down. That suks. He is really desperate. The people of Jersey City need to wake up. He didn't even get elected to that position. And he talks about Willie is splitting his votes. He's not even supposed to be there. He wouldn't have gotten the council seat without Glenn. What a JURK!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 6031 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 16:04:21 Subject: Re: Who is in the lead ? Lou Manzo by a landslide. While all the other candidates are out posturing, Lou is out there everyday talking to people, knocking on doors, building support, getting his story out, keeping his eye on the prize. 1200+ people at his rally on Thursday nite. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 6032 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 16:08:38 Subject: WAKE UP JERSEY CITY!!! We worked so hard to get an african american mayor and yet still you idiots are letting a white boy come into Ward F and give you some chicken and a cup of soda and you want to support him. Are yall that DUMB? Are you all going to let a known Glenn hater steal this city for someone else besides the people? Yall need to wake up or none of us will ever get jobs. I saw Manzo the other day walking with 4 white boys on danforth but had you you stupid niggas with him in the ghetto. He's going to forget you. He is using you!!! Use your brain!!! These are all tactics by the powers that be to confuse the people. $hit they even got Sandy Cunningham going against Willie!!! What the HELL is going on. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 6033 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 16:11:50 Subject: And what is going on at the county? And where are DeGise and Gaughan these days? Working for the resdents of Hudson county or keeping their candidate for mayor sober until election day? Opps! I forgot, first and foremost they are collecting their vig from all the political consultants on the payroll. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Klayton posted Message 6034 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 16:18:37 Subject: Where was Menendez? I didn't see Menendez there. Maybe he was in the kitchen washing dishes? Like, I mean he HAD to be there to really get the full HCDO support? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 6035 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 16:26:23 Subject: Where is Ron? Where is Ron campaigning thess days? don't hear much about his activities. Maybe he is also running for Mayor in one of the other three towns where he lives. There isn't any rule about be a dual Mayoralty holder is there? Can Ron also keep his 'day' (police job as well?). Ronnie, the triple dipper, go Ronnie go! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stop Talking Bull$hit?? posted Message 6036 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 16:35:28 Subject: That's what this board is all about You Like Harvey....You Don't like Harvey... Think Manzo is gay....Don't think Manzo is gay... Think Healy's a drunk...Don't think Healy is a drunk... Think Willie is a man (lol)....Don't think Willie is a man... Think Bonocoure is in it for the money.......well.... The point is....WHO CARES!?!?! This board is dominated by a bunch of self-serving yahoos cutting their teeth on the spin-cycle and trying to bolster their candidate by smearing their opponents. Its all a bunch of bull$hit. There are only a couple dozen people who post here under hundreds of aliases. (Anthony you should make people register if they want to post here) Its all the same crap. So who cares? I srtongly suggest that those of you in the camps of each of these wannabee Mayors...just cool it a bit. You don't serve yourselves or your candidates well by taking pot shots at the others. And we all know that the anti-Harvey stuff is posted by Manzo's people. The anti-Healy stuff is posted by Manzo and Smith. And the anti-Manzo stuff is posted by half of the county workforce ... well you get the picture. But the level of stupidity that satuarates this board is really pathetic. This one is gay.....that one is drunk....the other one is an Uncle Tom.... ITS ALL CRAP. And its all below the level of discourse the people of this town deserve. You people had better start doing better....cause this is pathetic. And voter turnout will no doubt reflect the level of disgust that is already evident on the streets. : If you don't like Harvey, fine. All I ask is that you keep your comments free of any stupidity. Not liking him does not give you the authority to call him Uncle Harvey. : Just so YOU understand...we elected Harvey Smith as well. He won the election to be the Council President and under the current laws of succession, the Council President is next in line to the mayor's office if the Mayor cannot finish his term. : As far as his firing people...many of those firings were justified (Munley to name just one of many) and these people should have NEVER been hired by Glenn in the first place. : I've disagreed with Harvey in the past but I would never show the amount of disrespect that you are showing. : : Now come on. Are you serious? Dors he really think he's gonna win? He has power and has to steal someone elses ideas to market himself. How stupid is he? Who will be giving him orders if he gets elected? Harvey is the biggest phony on the planet. You are right WE elected Glenn. Harvey did everything he could to stop Glenn. He was jealous and hated Glenn with a passion. He is an uncle Tom. He is not a leader. Think about it what kind of moron would do something as distastefull as firing everyone as soon as the mayor died? Or keep Mrs. Flood's paycheck. Or change the plaque for a park that he didn't have anything to do with. He is a BIG baby. He is an old school gangster and crook. People told Glenn not to deal with him but Glenn always saw the good in someone so he dealt with him and look what happened. So you are a misinformed soul Ruth. You sound like a hater. Harvey dosen't give a $hit about the people. He cares about himself. He even threatened the Muslims on Communipaw to take Willie's sign down. Stop talking that BULL$HIT he was never elected to be mayor in the first place so the people don't want him and that will definitely show in November. Get a life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Taylor posted Message 6037 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 17:32:59 Subject: Re: WAKE UP JERSEY CITY!!! Sounds like the speeches we heard in Planet of the Apes part 3 (Return to Ward F)! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6038 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 18:30:44 Subject: Buonocore for Mayor Heights Hq. Grand Opening - Saturday, September 18, 2004 The Ron Buonocore for Mayor Heights headquarters grand opening is on Saturday, September 18, 2004 from 1PM to 5PM. The location is 461 Central Avenue (near Congress Street). Meet Ron Buonocore! Free balloons, hotdogs, soda, coffee and cookies. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 6039 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 18:54:36 Subject: Re: Buonocore for Mayor Heights Hq. Grand Opening - Saturday, September 18, 2004 What time will Ron be coming in from his home in Sussex County? Ron probably will have to give himself about a 1 hour drive time from Hamburg, NJ to get there in time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 6040 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 22:11:58 Subject: Meet Ron Buonocore ! Before his butt gets kicked off the ballot ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6041 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 22:19:27 Subject: Good Post. You're right, it is all bull$hit. But sometimes it's pretty funny. :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** jaye084 posted Message 6042 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 23:06:11 Subject: Re: 2 Manzos --->Healy's camp did it how stupid are you do you really think anyone would sign a manzo petition at a healy event someone passed the petition around and said it was for healy. and his people signed it it was probably a lou manzo supporter at healys event passing it around. if jerry healy knew about it it would not be done. lou should kiss jerrys a$$ he asked this guy manzo to withdraw his name . he is to honest to try to win like that he wants the people to choose whoever the new mayor is . and if it is lou im sure he will work for a better jersey city and cooperate with lou manzo and if it is jerry he would expect the same from lou. the people will speak on nov 2 nd ***************** End Of Article ****************** jaye posted Message 6043 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 23:10:37 Subject: Re: Who is in the lead ? : i think you mean healy event not manzo i was there and manager said it was a lot less than healyslots of parking for lous event healys parked up to the blvd. lou had to bus in people to make a crowd. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jaye084 posted Message 6044 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 17, 2004 at 23:15:32 Subject: Re: Healy camp alledgedly paying bounty to have other canidates run with same name this was definitely a gerry mccann deal to make it look like healy did it. gerry go back under your rock. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jaye084 posted Message 6045 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 03:05:38 Subject: Re: Sign of Desperation healy a sure shot winner all polls indicate it with 44% undecided the upside favors healy. so relax harvey will still be the council pres. no one desperate there.go jerry!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** jaye posted Message 6046 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 03:14:58 Subject: MANZO AN ALSO RANZO Jerramiah Healy making a move upward in the polls. manzo starting to peak to early. harvey slipping fast willy moving up fast past harvey. carrol a non entity if healy keeps up the momentum there will be no catching him. and that makes lou an also ranzo manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BUT YOU PEOPLE ARE GONZO posted Message 6047 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 06:54:59 Subject: Re: MANZO AN ALSO RANZO :::And the only thing Jerry will be in it for is the medical benefits, like he said. Harvey on the inside track hiring more family and friends and giving out big raises to same while nothing in the city gets done. Crime reminescent of Newark in the late 60's. Willie may be a dark horse in this farce. Carroll still the nicest guy in town. Dont worry Jimmy, your day will come. Nice guys can finish first. With any luck, Buonocore will be tarred, feathered and stuck on that rail to be ridden back out to Sussex County. Steve, dont wear shorts. Finally, who the hell are these other jokers? : Jerramiah Healy making a move upward in the polls. : manzo starting to peak to early. : harvey slipping fast : willy moving up fast past harvey. : carrol a non entity : if healy keeps up the momentum there will be no catching him. : and that makes lou an also ranzo manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 6048 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 07:52:06 Subject: MR. MAYOR OR MR. MCMANN? MR. MAYOR OR MR. MCMANN? Urban Times News September 10, 2004 - September 16, 2004 by UTN Staff While campaign propaganda is expected during a heated mayoral race, a flyer highlighting the detrimental association of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and the increasingly notorious Daniel McMann bears further scrutiny. Grounded in arguable facts, the leaflet voices some concerns that are becoming more relevant as the election draws near. Stories of poor work habits have followed Daniel McMann since his first introduction to city government courtesy of Lou Manzo in 2001. Early in their relationship, Ron Buonocore and Lou Manzo were friends. They ran on the same ticket against then U.S. Marshall Glenn Cunningham in the primary race for Jersey City mayor. When voters resoundingly supported Glenn D. Cunningham for office, Buonocore, Manzo jumped on the Cunningham bandwagon. Political pundits predicted that the team could not win, but Cunningham carried the ticket, sweeping all those riding upon his coattails into office. Manzo set McMann up for a job at the Jersey City Department of Public Works that Ron Buonocore ran as Director. There Mr. McMann established himself as a complacent worker who would not regularly come to work. Not one to stand for such behavior, Buonocore fired his Manzo plant for poor attendance. Mr. Manzo was infuriated, and the two destroyed their once amicable relationship. Manzo spared little time in intervening and secured his friend another position, starting a trend that still endures to this day. Taking McMann from the fires of Public Works, Manzo unknowingly placed his friend in the frying pan at the Department of Health and Human Services. Director Sergio Lamboy would quickly find himself assuaging the complaints of productive workers upset by the lack of productivity from their newest employee. Discussing the difficulties with Assemblyman Lou Manzo, Lamboy explained McMann's lack of job performance, and basically described a repeat episode of what had happened while Daniel was at Public Works. This did not sit well with Manzo who became so angered he threatened physical violence against the Director. While that incident was squashed, the relationship between the Assemblyman and the Director of the Department of Health and Human Services was soured. However, Assemblyman Manzo's persistence continued to maintain Daniel McMann with a city position. As reported in the Jersey Journal in February, the city was notified it was being fined $5000 for failing to file reports on city-owned buildings. Angry state officials kept record of five letters, eleven phone calls, and several meeting; between November 2002 anc March 2003, notifying the depart ment of the need for a response An additional fine of $2000 a day would also be levied for each day that the reports were not submit. ted. The total bill for these indiscretions towers at $105,000, not including the additional workers retained to clean up the mess caused by McMann's inaction. Unlike most fiscal foul-ups, this one is directly attributable to one person with a history of ambivalence as a Jersey City worker. Once more, the job performance of Daniel McMann leads to questions regarding his competence. Keeping the necessary reports filed and updated was the responsibility of Daniel McMann. He did not do his job and the city must pay the consequences. Again, Assemblyman Lou Manzo holds the executioner at bay while Mr. McMann is rightfully threatened with the chopping block. As he claims in his interview with the Journal, Manzo is involved because he recommended him (McMann) in 2001. The Assemblyman minimizes the incident and his associates' culpability saying, "I've talked to people over at the State Department of Health and they told me the fines will probably be dropped." Even if Mr. Manzo should successfully sweep his compadre's latest mess under the rug, his McMann obsession highlights an uncomfortable vulnerability for a mayoral aspirant. If history has shown us anything we know that Daniel McMann will have job troubles, soon. History has also revealed that Mr. Manzo is likely to protect the interests of his good friend once again. Recent history has also shown us that detriment comes to one's political aspirations when the focus of an elected representative wavers between official responsibilities and personal loyalties. Our lame duck governor compromised his credibility attending to his personal loyalties first. Will Jersey City be satisfied playing second fiddle when the hopeful mayor must face the music on behalf of his close friend, again? This latest incident shows that Assemblyman Manzo has a soft spot when it comes to Mr. McMann. For Daniel McMann, he will minimize the squandering of Jersey City funds and compromise his relationships with government officials. For Daniel McMann he will find a new city position time and again, while others pound the pavement fruitlessly. For Daniel McMann, Lou Manzo will find excuses for his apathy while Jersey City workers struggle to make ends meet. This is not the leadership reaction that Jersey City can afford. Jersey City needs a leader who will put the city first. We all understand the Manzo platform will claim Jersey City First (in fact the name of a Cunningham supportive political action committee), but we have not seen enough of that platform in practice. In the minds of Jersey City voters, a public official must at all times appear impartial, fair, and truthful in his actions, paying more attention to the welfare of his constituents than his compatriots, reflecting that attitude in all his official responses. Since the demise of Glenn D. Cunningham, Jersey City has not felt confident that its leaders practice what they preach. Mr. Manzo supports a close but ambivalent friend and voters can see the handwriting on the wall. Daniel McMann does not act in his own best interest. He does not care how he hurts Jersey City, and shows little concern for the stain on the Assemblyman's reputation. This behavior is not going to instill voter confidence in Lou Manzo, the friend who blindly supports him. New Jersey has seen this specter before. If impartiality and fairness are not qualities Mr. Manzo can project, he should let the Jersey City voter know, now. If being truthful confuses the issues, Mr. Manzo should make it clear, now. Jersey City deserves to know that it will be first in the heart and mind of its next mayor. If Mr. Manzo is unsure of his political response, he can find some example in the actions of the soon to be former governor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 6049 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 08:55:32 Subject: Doria Sellout Of Harvey Smith for Manzo support Menendez wins again in Jersey City. Porky Pig knows how to pull the strings in Jersey City Politics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** tiptoe through the tulips posted Message 6050 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 08:56:04 Subject: Danny McMahon = Golan Cipel Hey Bobby when did you start getting shy? Lay it out for everybody to see, Manzo got his boyfriend a job and since the guy is a lazy dummy the people of Jersey City is paying a 100grand fine. That's gotta be the most expensive job since Monica! : MR. MAYOR OR MR. MCMANN? : Urban Times News : September 10, 2004 - September 16, 2004 : by UTN Staff : While campaign propaganda is expected during a heated mayoral race, a flyer highlighting the detrimental association of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and the increasingly notorious Daniel McMann bears further scrutiny. Grounded in arguable facts, the leaflet voices some concerns that are becoming more relevant as the election draws near. : Stories of poor work habits have followed Daniel McMann since his first introduction to city government courtesy of Lou Manzo in 2001. Early in their relationship, Ron Buonocore and Lou Manzo were friends. They ran on the same ticket against then U.S. Marshall Glenn Cunningham in the primary race for Jersey City mayor. When voters resoundingly supported Glenn D. Cunningham for office, Buonocore, Manzo jumped on the Cunningham bandwagon. Political pundits predicted that the team could not win, but Cunningham carried the ticket, sweeping all those riding upon his coattails into office. Manzo set McMann up for a job at the Jersey City Department of Public Works that Ron Buonocore ran as Director. There Mr. McMann established himself as a complacent worker who would not regularly come to work. Not one to stand for such behavior, Buonocore fired his Manzo plant for poor attendance. Mr. Manzo was infuriated, and the two destroyed their once amicable relationship. Manzo spared little time in intervening and secured his friend another position, starting a trend that still endures to this day. : Taking McMann from the fires of Public Works, Manzo unknowingly placed his friend in the frying pan at the Department of Health and Human Services. Director Sergio Lamboy would quickly find himself assuaging the complaints of productive workers upset by the lack of productivity from their newest employee. Discussing the difficulties with Assemblyman Lou Manzo, Lamboy explained McMann's lack of job performance, and basically described a repeat episode of what had happened while Daniel was at Public Works. This did not sit well with Manzo who became so angered he threatened physical violence against the Director. While that incident was squashed, the relationship between the Assemblyman and the Director of the Department of Health and Human Services was soured. However, Assemblyman Manzo's persistence continued to maintain Daniel McMann with a city position. : As reported in the Jersey Journal in February, the city was notified it was being fined $5000 for failing to file reports on city-owned buildings. Angry state officials kept record of five letters, eleven phone calls, and several meeting; between November 2002 anc March 2003, notifying the depart ment of the need for a response An additional fine of $2000 a day would also be levied for each day that the reports were not submit. ted. The total bill for these indiscretions towers at $105,000, not including the additional workers retained to clean up the mess caused by McMann's inaction. : Unlike most fiscal foul-ups, this one is directly attributable to one person with a history of ambivalence as a Jersey City worker. Once more, the job performance of Daniel McMann leads to questions regarding his competence. Keeping the necessary reports filed and updated was the responsibility of Daniel McMann. He did not do his job and the city must pay the consequences. Again, Assemblyman Lou Manzo holds the executioner at bay while Mr. McMann is rightfully threatened with the chopping block. : As he claims in his interview with the Journal, Manzo is involved because he recommended him (McMann) in 2001. The Assemblyman minimizes the incident and his associates' culpability saying, "I've talked to people over at the State Department of Health and they told me the fines will probably be dropped." Even if Mr. Manzo should successfully sweep his compadre's latest mess under the rug, his McMann obsession highlights an uncomfortable vulnerability for a mayoral aspirant. If history has shown us anything we know that Daniel McMann will have job troubles, soon. History has also revealed that Mr. Manzo is likely to protect the interests of his good friend once again. Recent history has also shown us that detriment comes to one's political aspirations when the focus of an elected representative wavers between official responsibilities and personal loyalties. Our lame duck governor compromised his credibility attending to his personal loyalties first. Will Jersey City be satisfied playing second fiddle when the hopeful mayor must face the music on behalf of his close friend, again? : This latest incident shows that Assemblyman Manzo has a soft spot when it comes to Mr. McMann. For Daniel McMann, he will minimize the squandering of Jersey City funds and compromise his relationships with government officials. For Daniel McMann he will find a new city position time and again, while others pound the pavement fruitlessly. For Daniel McMann, Lou Manzo will find excuses for his apathy while Jersey City workers struggle to make ends meet. This is not the leadership reaction that Jersey City can afford. Jersey City needs a leader who will put the city first. : We all understand the Manzo platform will claim Jersey City First (in fact the name of a Cunningham supportive political action committee), but we have not seen enough of that platform in practice. In the minds of Jersey City voters, a public official must at all times appear impartial, fair, and truthful in his actions, paying more attention to the welfare of his constituents than his compatriots, reflecting that attitude in all his official responses. : Since the demise of Glenn D. Cunningham, Jersey City has not felt confident that its leaders practice what they preach. Mr. Manzo supports a close but ambivalent friend and voters can see the handwriting on the wall. Daniel McMann does not act in his own best interest. He does not care how he hurts Jersey City, and shows little concern for the stain on the Assemblyman's reputation. This behavior is not going to instill voter confidence in Lou Manzo, the friend who blindly supports him. New Jersey has seen this specter before. If impartiality and fairness are not qualities Mr. Manzo can project, he should let the Jersey City voter know, now. If being truthful confuses the issues, Mr. Manzo should make it clear, now. : Jersey City deserves to know that it will be first in the heart and mind of its next mayor. If Mr. Manzo is unsure of his political response, he can find some example in the actions of the soon to be former governor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 6051 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 08:56:10 Subject: Sorry Sorry but the only one caught with his pant down.. around his ankles.. is Lou Manzo! : Just another instance when the Healy camp got caught with their pants down. Sad. Very Sad. How low can they go? Only Jerry and Tommy Boy know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 6052 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 08:58:23 Subject: Re: Danny McMahon = Golan Cipel : That's gotta be the most expensive job since Monica! Yes, but does Lous still have the stained blue dress ***************** End Of Article ****************** JQ posted Message 6053 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 09:15:14 Subject: Rumor Has anyone heard a rumor that Manzo has HIV? ***************** End Of Article ****************** that had Steve Glazer on its rosters posted Message 6054 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 09:39:27 Subject: And you would put credance in a paper :::Is Jersey City's version of Mad and lines bird cages and cat litter pans? : MR. MAYOR OR MR. MCMANN? : Urban Times News : September 10, 2004 - September 16, 2004 : by UTN Staff : While campaign propaganda is expected during a heated mayoral race, a flyer highlighting the detrimental association of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and the increasingly notorious Daniel McMann bears further scrutiny. Grounded in arguable facts, the leaflet voices some concerns that are becoming more relevant as the election draws near. : Stories of poor work habits have followed Daniel McMann since his first introduction to city government courtesy of Lou Manzo in 2001. Early in their relationship, Ron Buonocore and Lou Manzo were friends. They ran on the same ticket against then U.S. Marshall Glenn Cunningham in the primary race for Jersey City mayor. When voters resoundingly supported Glenn D. Cunningham for office, Buonocore, Manzo jumped on the Cunningham bandwagon. Political pundits predicted that the team could not win, but Cunningham carried the ticket, sweeping all those riding upon his coattails into office. Manzo set McMann up for a job at the Jersey City Department of Public Works that Ron Buonocore ran as Director. There Mr. McMann established himself as a complacent worker who would not regularly come to work. Not one to stand for such behavior, Buonocore fired his Manzo plant for poor attendance. Mr. Manzo was infuriated, and the two destroyed their once amicable relationship. Manzo spared little time in intervening and secured his friend another position, starting a trend that still endures to this day. : Taking McMann from the fires of Public Works, Manzo unknowingly placed his friend in the frying pan at the Department of Health and Human Services. Director Sergio Lamboy would quickly find himself assuaging the complaints of productive workers upset by the lack of productivity from their newest employee. Discussing the difficulties with Assemblyman Lou Manzo, Lamboy explained McMann's lack of job performance, and basically described a repeat episode of what had happened while Daniel was at Public Works. This did not sit well with Manzo who became so angered he threatened physical violence against the Director. While that incident was squashed, the relationship between the Assemblyman and the Director of the Department of Health and Human Services was soured. However, Assemblyman Manzo's persistence continued to maintain Daniel McMann with a city position. : As reported in the Jersey Journal in February, the city was notified it was being fined $5000 for failing to file reports on city-owned buildings. Angry state officials kept record of five letters, eleven phone calls, and several meeting; between November 2002 anc March 2003, notifying the depart ment of the need for a response An additional fine of $2000 a day would also be levied for each day that the reports were not submit. ted. The total bill for these indiscretions towers at $105,000, not including the additional workers retained to clean up the mess caused by McMann's inaction. : Unlike most fiscal foul-ups, this one is directly attributable to one person with a history of ambivalence as a Jersey City worker. Once more, the job performance of Daniel McMann leads to questions regarding his competence. Keeping the necessary reports filed and updated was the responsibility of Daniel McMann. He did not do his job and the city must pay the consequences. Again, Assemblyman Lou Manzo holds the executioner at bay while Mr. McMann is rightfully threatened with the chopping block. : As he claims in his interview with the Journal, Manzo is involved because he recommended him (McMann) in 2001. The Assemblyman minimizes the incident and his associates' culpability saying, "I've talked to people over at the State Department of Health and they told me the fines will probably be dropped." Even if Mr. Manzo should successfully sweep his compadre's latest mess under the rug, his McMann obsession highlights an uncomfortable vulnerability for a mayoral aspirant. If history has shown us anything we know that Daniel McMann will have job troubles, soon. History has also revealed that Mr. Manzo is likely to protect the interests of his good friend once again. Recent history has also shown us that detriment comes to one's political aspirations when the focus of an elected representative wavers between official responsibilities and personal loyalties. Our lame duck governor compromised his credibility attending to his personal loyalties first. Will Jersey City be satisfied playing second fiddle when the hopeful mayor must face the music on behalf of his close friend, again? : This latest incident shows that Assemblyman Manzo has a soft spot when it comes to Mr. McMann. For Daniel McMann, he will minimize the squandering of Jersey City funds and compromise his relationships with government officials. For Daniel McMann he will find a new city position time and again, while others pound the pavement fruitlessly. For Daniel McMann, Lou Manzo will find excuses for his apathy while Jersey City workers struggle to make ends meet. This is not the leadership reaction that Jersey City can afford. Jersey City needs a leader who will put the city first. : We all understand the Manzo platform will claim Jersey City First (in fact the name of a Cunningham supportive political action committee), but we have not seen enough of that platform in practice. In the minds of Jersey City voters, a public official must at all times appear impartial, fair, and truthful in his actions, paying more attention to the welfare of his constituents than his compatriots, reflecting that attitude in all his official responses. : Since the demise of Glenn D. Cunningham, Jersey City has not felt confident that its leaders practice what they preach. Mr. Manzo supports a close but ambivalent friend and voters can see the handwriting on the wall. Daniel McMann does not act in his own best interest. He does not care how he hurts Jersey City, and shows little concern for the stain on the Assemblyman's reputation. This behavior is not going to instill voter confidence in Lou Manzo, the friend who blindly supports him. New Jersey has seen this specter before. If impartiality and fairness are not qualities Mr. Manzo can project, he should let the Jersey City voter know, now. If being truthful confuses the issues, Mr. Manzo should make it clear, now. : Jersey City deserves to know that it will be first in the heart and mind of its next mayor. If Mr. Manzo is unsure of his political response, he can find some example in the actions of the soon to be former governor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6055 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 10:03:27 Subject: Online Video: Anthony Chiappone Runs for the State Senate in the 31st District Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone of Bayonne announced that he is running for the State Senated in the 31st District against HCDO pick Joe Doria. This special election is for the unexpired portion of Glenn Cunningham's term. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOU MANZO posted Message 6056 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 11:04:07 Subject: I did not have "sex" with that Man But then again...that all depends on what the meaning of "is" is. : : That's gotta be the most expensive job since Monica! : Yes, but does Lous still have the stained blue dress ***************** End Of Article ****************** JJ's Hilarious Quote of the Day posted Message 6057 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 11:09:41 Subject: Doria doesn't cut political deals......LOL!!!!! Doria spokeswoman Julie Roginsky confirmed that Chiappone had approached Doria with an offer. "Mr. Chiappone tried to cut a deal with Joe Doria," she said. "But the senator does not cut political deals....." DORIA FOUND RELIGION?!?!?!? HA HA ....ROTFLMAO...... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 6058 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 11:27:59 Subject: Where was poll taken What Bar was that poll taken in? Who took the poll? Was it a political consultant on Tommy Boys payroll? Don't delude yourself. How can Healy win when you can't get him out of the Bar? : healy a sure shot winner all polls indicate it : with 44% undecided the upside favors healy. : so relax harvey will still be the council pres. : no one desperate there.go jerry!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paddy Mac posted Message 6059 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 11:32:53 Subject: Name Calling Will Get You Nowhere Brilliant campaigning..... calling a candidate a Homo. Is that the official Healy line, or are you just a paid stooge that is hiding behind this chatroom? : Sorry but the only one caught with his pant down.. around his ankles.. is Lou Manzo! : : : Just another instance when the Healy camp got caught with their pants down. Sad. Very Sad. How low can they go? Only Jerry and Tommy Boy know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jayton posted Message 6060 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 11:36:56 Subject: Its the Messanger What's your problem? Do you have HIV? Stop making love to monkey's, like Jerry Healy : Has anyone heard a rumor that Manzo has HIV? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Klayton posted Message 6061 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 11:43:32 Subject: Healy Rats Jumping Ship The Healy brain trust are beginning to make overtures to the Manzo camp in an attempt to hedge their bets. Lots of luck! Better get your unemployment claim filled out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Roger T posted Message 6062 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 11:57:15 Subject: All Abord Gee Whiskers! The 'brain-trust' just might jump ship. Their out fishing instead of campaigning. Anybody want to play Buddy-ball? \ : The Healy brain trust are beginning to make overtures to the Manzo camp in an attempt to hedge their bets. : Lots of luck! Better get your unemployment claim filled out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pundit posted Message 6063 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 12:02:09 Subject: Wishful Thinking by Manzo As Healy builds momentum and his team gets stronger, we see more distortions and lies coming from the Manzo people. Its a great feeling to have the other guys on the run so early in a campaign. : The Healy brain trust are beginning to make overtures to the Manzo camp in an attempt to hedge their bets. : Lots of luck! Better get your unemployment claim filled out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Awfully Quiet These Days posted Message 6064 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 12:03:08 Subject: Where is THE CHAMPION - Menendez ? Where is "Our Champion " Congressman Blob Menendez ? Remember Menendez in his primary ads - DECLARED HIMSELF - " Our Champion" - ( Barf Bag please) Isn't he on the November Ballot ???? Very Very Quiet these days for the Born Big Mouth that Menendez is. Perhaps he is too busy writing & cashing checks with Kay Licausi. PS - Bob's new squeeze ??? Bob's Ex says the new girlfriend comes from Bergenline Avenue - ROTFLMAO ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pollster posted Message 6065 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 12:05:43 Subject: Astor Bar Poll Late night poll taken at the Astor Bar, official Headquarters of the Healy campaign indicated that their candidate is fading in the strech. Concern from HQ is Healy will pull the plug before the deadline, leaving his 'Supporters' high and dry (well not really dry). ***************** End Of Article ****************** Shocked! posted Message 6066 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 12:24:53 Subject: Healy/Ray Manzo-Is It True? It must be lie! I can't believe it! Stanley Shaw, husband of Lois Shaw, signed the Ray Mannzo petition? Is this the same Lois Shaw who is Tom DeGise's sister? The sister who is on the county payroll at $75,000 per year? Is this just a coincidence, or would Tom DeGise stoop so low as to have his brother-in law sign the Ray Manzo petition? ........... And is that Bernadette Gaughan, the wife of Bill Gaughan who also signed that petition. Come on Bill, do you think people really believe that you don;t control your wife's political activities? Your not a whimp are you? Billy? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jawker posted Message 6067 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 13:31:28 Subject: The Coward is Hiding He's laying low hoping to weather to latest political/personal blunders. He's terrified of the thought of losing the Freeholder Board if his little puppy Tommy Boy can't deliver Healy. THe Freeholders are the source of most of his cashflow, hey, Kay has expensive taste. : Perhaps he is too busy writing & cashing checks with Kay Licausi. : PS - Bob's new squeeze ??? Bob's Ex says the new girlfriend comes from Bergenline Avenue - ROTFLMAO ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fo all u clueless wonders out here: posted Message 6068 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 16:15:30 Subject: Re: The Coward is Hiding Congress is in session ...September into October is crucial vote months in Congress. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6069 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 17:56:52 Subject: Online Video: Ron Buonocore Speaks at the Buonocore for Mayor Heights Grand Opening Ron Buonocore and his wife greeted supporters today at the grand opening of the Buonocore for Mayor of Jersey City Heights headquarters grand opening. The Heights hq. is located at 461 Central Avenue (near Congress Street). To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Grinder posted Message 6070 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 18:04:06 Subject: Again slanted and bias Shows how slated this website is, look how Anthony describes the Chiappone Link - "HCDO picked" Joe Doria. ***************** End Of Article ****************** People 1st posted Message 6071 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 18:11:55 Subject: Good Sign! Roginsky? That's the skinny spokewoman who was sent packing last year in Doria's campaign for calling Glenn Cunningham a sc*mbag to a reporter. She was sent packing then, glad to see she's back on board, it ensures another Doria loss! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pizono posted Message 6072 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 18:20:14 Subject: Re: Doria doesn't cut political deals......LOL!!!!! Look at the video closely You can just about see the monkey with the tin cup and Anthony's grinding organ in the background. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 6073 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 18:29:53 Subject: Paddy Mac No I am one of the paint throwers and photographer... and you Paddy Mac? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6074 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 20:51:01 Subject: Joe Doria's name is on the ballot because he is the choice of the Hudson County Democratic Organization. : Shows how slated this website is, look how Anthony describes the Chiappone Link - "HCDO picked" Joe Doria. Joe Doria's name is on the ballot because he is the choice of the Hudson County Democratic Organization as their candidate for State Senate in the special election for the 31st District. The other candidates are running as independents through the collection of signatures on petitions, ***************** End Of Article ****************** Creep Menendez is Laying Low posted Message 6075 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 21:00:10 Subject: YOU are the CLUELESS ONE Congress being in Session HAS NEVER STOPPED Menendez from grabbing J erky Journal Headlines and Photo Ops - Menendez is Laying Low -- WHY ??? :Congress is in session ...September into October is crucial vote months in Congress. ***************** End Of Article ****************** toogay posted Message 6076 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 22:08:04 Subject: Re: Online Video: Ron Buonocore Speaks at the Buonocore for Mayor Heights Grand Opening he was in union city mosque campaign with the muslim community and he su@ked, we won't support him because he sounds like a KGB Communist. ***************** End Of Article ****************** things that make u go mmmmmmmm posted Message 6077 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 18, 2004 at 22:17:11 Subject: Re: Online Video: Ron Buonocore Speaks at the Buonocore for Mayor Heights Grand Opening The poll that Ron Buonocore refer too is the most corrupted, low life on the ticket and he rated # 1. second by healy, for running naked on the beach. 3rd place Lipski for stealing car batteries. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Grinder posted Message 6078 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 00:28:37 Subject: Re: Joe Doria's name is on the ballot because he is the choice of the Hudson County Democratic Organization. Thanks for the explanation.. Like we didn't know that, you wrote this link which was specifically worded to be slanted. you would never see a newspaper headline, no matter how slanted say it like that. Why 'Picked'?, why not choice? or elected by the HCDO? The word 'Picked' was used to point out the process how Doria was elected and used by you to denote a negative connotation. Come on let's get serious here Anthony ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6079 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 03:12:29 Subject: Pick sounds bad? Pick sounds bad? Choice sounds good? So, if you go to an auto dealer to pick out a car, that's something bad, huh? Warren Buffet describes himself as a stock picker. Does he suffer from self-loathing? I don't see why you prefer the word choice. I like pick better. It has a certain Hemingway directness and LACK of connotation baggage. Which is why I picked it! Joe Doria was elected by the Democratic Party Committee members of the 31st District -- the majority of whom were aligned with the HCDO -- to serve in the State Senate until the special election. My understanding is that the Hudson Democratic Organization was not bound by that Committee election in their selection of a candidate (choice, pick, nomination, or whatever word you like best). Clearly, the HCDO named the same person they supported in the Committee election -- Joe Doria. Later today, I'll post the official letter. The HCDO supports Joe Doria. As the County Democratic Organization, they have the ability (right, power -- again use the word you like best) to name a candidate. People that like Joe Doria are happy with that. Those that don't want Joe Doria to serve in the State Senate for the next five years need to circulate petitions to enable someone to run against him -- as the supporters of Chiappone, Tayari, and Watson have done. I'm presuming that the HCDO maintains that Joe Doria's name belongs on the HCDO line with John Kerry because of the County Organization's support. Are you arguing against that? : Thanks for the explanation.. Like we didn't know that, you wrote this link which was specifically worded to be slanted. : you would never see a newspaper headline, no matter how slanted say it like that. : Why 'Picked'?, why not choice? or elected by the HCDO? : The word 'Picked' was used to point out the process how Doria was elected and used by you to denote a negative connotation. Come on let's get serious here Anthony ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6080 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 07:55:22 Subject: State Board of Elections Letter Here's the letter from the State Board of Elections. It says that the County committees is to choose the candidate in the special election. Perhaps someone from the HCDO will let us know the mechanics of the process. Did HCDO Chair Bernard Kenny make the choice? Was an election held to determine the candidate? From the letter it appears that the nomination of a candidate is independent of last Spring's election of the person to hold the seat up to the special election. : Pick sounds bad? Choice sounds good? So, if you go to an auto dealer to pick out a car, that's something bad, huh? Warren Buffet describes himself as a stock picker. Does he suffer from self-loathing? : I don't see why you prefer the word choice. I like pick better. It has a certain Hemingway directness and LACK of connotation baggage. Which is why I picked it! : Joe Doria was elected by the Democratic Party Committee members of the 31st District -- the majority of whom were aligned with the HCDO -- to serve in the State Senate until the special election. My understanding is that the Hudson Democratic Organization was not bound by that Committee election in their selection of a candidate (choice, pick, nomination, or whatever word you like best). Clearly, the HCDO named the same person they supported in the Committee election -- Joe Doria. Later today, I'll post the official letter. : The HCDO supports Joe Doria. As the County Democratic Organization, they have the ability (right, power -- again use the word you like best) to name a candidate. People that like Joe Doria are happy with that. Those that don't want Joe Doria to serve in the State Senate for the next five years need to circulate petitions to enable someone to run against him -- as the supporters of Chiappone, Tayari, and Watson have done. : I'm presuming that the HCDO maintains that Joe Doria's name belongs on the HCDO line with John Kerry because of the County Organization's support. Are you arguing against that? : : Thanks for the explanation.. Like we didn't know that, you wrote this link which was specifically worded to be slanted. : : you would never see a newspaper headline, no matter how slanted say it like that. : : Why 'Picked'?, why not choice? or elected by the HCDO? : : The word 'Picked' was used to point out the process how Doria was elected and used by you to denote a negative connotation. Come on let's get serious here Anthony ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 6081 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 08:01:11 Subject: Control of Jersey City Politicians By Porky Pig Why does Bob Porky Pig Menendez have such control over our Jersey City politicians?Can someone please tell me before i vote in November,in the Mayoral election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** We Love Mother Earth posted Message 6082 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 09:40:50 Subject: Manzo Ecological Paint Recycling Community Program To express love of the planet and Lou Manzo's many years of dedication to the envronment, Manzo for Mayor now runs a community program of paint recycling. Bring your unused paint to the Manzo for Mayor campaign office at 503 Newark Avenue. The paint will be used in a socially constructive project for the benefit of residents of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** We Love Mother Earth posted Message 6082 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 09:40:50 Subject: Manzo Ecological Paint Recycling Community Program To express love of the planet and Lou Manzo's many years of dedication to the envronment, Manzo for Mayor now runs a community program of paint recycling. Bring your unused paint to the Manzo for Mayor campaign office at 503 Newark Avenue. The paint will be used in a socially constructive project for the benefit of residents of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Banker posted Message 6083 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 10:39:01 Subject: Re: Control of Jersey City Politicians By Porky Pig Its called the almighty BUCK. Menendez has a war chest that no one can compete with. So he buys loyalty, and controls the elected leaders that are supposed to be working for us. : Why does Bob Porky Pig Menendez have such control over our Jersey City politicians?Can someone please tell me before i vote in November,in the Mayoral election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Uses Taxpayer Funds posted Message 6084 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 11:01:33 Subject: Spends Most CAMPAIGN FUNDS On KAY Menendez IS NOT THAT generous with his war chest -- UNLESS It is to the Kay Licausi's types. Menendez does control elected leaders by using Taxpayer supported Government Funds to stay in power. Case in point - By Using the County Payroll Boss Menendez controls the Jersey City Council. Menendez uses his Campaign Account as a personal expense account - Wineing, Dining , Pocket Lining .....Limosines ...Even Flying in Private Jets. WANT TO SEE THE PROOF ???? : Its called the almighty BUCK. Menendez has a war chest that no one can compete with. So he buys loyalty, and controls the elected leaders that are supposed to be working for us. : : Why does Bob Porky Pig Menendez have such control over our Jersey City politicians?Can someone please tell me before i vote in November,in the Mayoral election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SOCIALLY CONSTRUCTIVE MY A$$ posted Message 6085 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 11:20:29 Subject: Re: Manzo Ecological Paint Recycling Community Program HOW, LIKE THROWING MORE PAINT ON HIS OPPONENTS' CARS AND WARD CLUBS? THAT'S REAL SOCIALLY CONSTRUCTIVE!!!! : To express love of the planet and Lou Manzo's many years of dedication to the envronment, Manzo for Mayor now runs a community program of paint recycling. : Bring your unused paint to the Manzo for Mayor campaign office at 503 Newark Avenue. The paint will be used in a socially constructive project for the benefit of residents of Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6086 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 11:56:16 Subject: I can't stand the suspense! Show us the proof! : Menendez IS NOT THAT generous with his war chest -- UNLESS It is to the Kay Licausi's types. : Menendez does control elected leaders by using Taxpayer supported Government Funds to stay in power. : Case in point - By Using the County Payroll Boss Menendez controls the Jersey City Council. : Menendez uses his Campaign Account as a personal expense account - Wineing, Dining , Pocket Lining .....Limosines ...Even Flying in Private Jets. : WANT TO SEE THE PROOF ???? : : : Its called the almighty BUCK. Menendez has a war chest that no one can compete with. So he buys loyalty, and controls the elected leaders that are supposed to be working for us. : : : Why does Bob Porky Pig Menendez have such control over our Jersey City politicians?Can someone please tell me before i vote in November,in the Mayoral election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jaye084 posted Message 6087 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 12:22:36 Subject: Re: Healy/Ray Manzo-Is It True? the signatures were forged to make the healy camp look foolish there i proof. gerry mccann is bragging about it nice try gerry.healy will win regardless of his dirty tricks.go jerry! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NY Times article on Sandra Cunningham posted Message 6088 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 13:49:46 Subject: For a City Hall Widow, Politics Can Wait, for Now For a City Hall Widow, Politics Can Wait, for Now By JONATHAN MILLER New York Times Published: September 16, 2004 JERSEY CITY THE voice on the answering machine is a familiar one: "Hi, this is Glenn," says the former mayor of Jersey City. "And this is Sandy Cunningham," adds his widow. Though it has been nearly four months since the death of Glenn D. Cunningham, the city's first black mayor, his wife of six years can't bring herself to erase the tape. Not yet, at least. Even now, supporters still call just to hear his voice, and many of them would very much like her to take his place in the corner office in City Hall and at the head of their insurgent political faction. Advertisement Will she or won't she? The question arose quickly after Mr. Cunningham, 60, died of a heart attack on May 25. So quickly that as his body lay in a coffin covered with a flag in the Jersey City Armory, politicians just a few yards away were discussing his wife's chances in a special election set for Nov. 2. Sandra A. Bolden Cunningham, 50, was asked all summer about her intentions, and the answer finally came a few weeks ago: Not now, maybe later. "I don't think this is the time for me," she said as she sat at the Hard Grove Café here last week and sipped a café con leche. Instead, she endorsed her husband's former police chief, Ronald D. Buonocore, one of 14 candidates who filed papers to run by the deadline yesterday. But it is clear that she has enjoyed the attention. A former actress in the influential Negro Ensemble Company, she counts Lady Macbeth as her favorite role. (" 'Out, damned spot! Out' - I like that.") At the mayor's funeral, Councilwoman Viola Richardson brought a roaring crowd of 5,000 to its feet when she proclaimed to his widow, "We will honor you and support you in any way possible in the fulfillment of his dreams." "It was wonderful," Mrs. Cunningham recalled, and her eyes moistened. She was dressed for the interview in a conservative brown pantsuit, a straw hat pulled far down on her head. A heart-shaped locket that she bought after her husband's death hung around her neck; it contains a lock of his hair. She spoke softly, measuring and drawing out her words, sometimes correcting herself and restarting in midsentence. She broke into a broad smile and let out an easy, deep laugh when talking about the crazy rough-and-tumble of Jersey City politics, and about how her acting career was derailed. "I cannot sing," she explained. "At all." Then she demonstrated, with an airy warble. But she has a hard edge, too. Mrs. Cunningham forbade many of her husband's political rivals to attend his funeral. "I think they didn't give Glenn any respect while he was living," she said. "You can be an adversary of someone and have a difference of opinion, but you don't have to try to disrespect a person and destroy a person, and I think that's what their goal was." She grew up in Newark, the daughter of a preacher, and graduated from West Side High School and Bloomfield College. When her stage career stalled, she moved on to jobs in Essex County, and in 1988 became the executive director of the Hudson County Bar Association. She met her future husband, a councilman and former Jersey City police officer, while interviewing him for a public-access television program. They dated for 10 years and married in 1998. Three years later, she played a central role in his campaign for mayor, and later sat in on staff meetings and prepped an often-exhausted mayor before events. "Glenn and I always saw each other as partners," she said. BUT the mayor had a long, bitter struggle with the City Council and the Democratic regulars led by Representative Robert Menendez. There was ugliness on both sides. Mrs. Cunningham said she often saw fliers comparing her husband to a pig; a weekly newspaper published by an adviser to Mr. Cunningham referred to their opponents as organized criminals. Mrs. Cunningham says she believes that the stress contributed to her husband's death. Since his death, battles have erupted over everything from the city's removal of his name from a park plaque to the fierce campaign for mayor. Even the faction that supported Mr. Cunningham, the Hudson County Reform Democratic Organization, has splintered. "It's so crazy out there now," Mrs. Cunningham said of her decision not to run. "I have enough problems." Still, she says that after her husband died, she was interested in the State Senate seat he had held since January. "If I had been offered his seat, I would have probably taken it," she said. The seat went to Joseph V. Doria, the mayor of Bayonne and a former state assemblyman. Some of her husband's former staff members say they think she is preparing to run for mayor in May. Is that a possibility? She smiled. "Anything's possible," she said. Could she see herself running the city? "Oh, definitely,'' she replied. "I think I would be a good mayor." She keeps busy settling her husband's estate and working on the foundation they created to help C-average students in Jersey City go on to college. Though she supports Mr. Buonocore for mayor, she said she did not plan much campaigning. "Because if I wanted to get that involved," she said, "I'd run." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stay Tuned ! posted Message 6089 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 13:51:26 Subject: Thought You Might Like That : Show us the proof! : : Menendez IS NOT THAT generous with his war chest -- UNLESS It is to the Kay Licausi's types. : : Menendez does control elected leaders by using Taxpayer supported Government Funds to stay in power. : : Case in point - By Using the County Payroll Boss Menendez controls the Jersey City Council. : : Menendez uses his Campaign Account as a personal expense account - Wineing, Dining , Pocket Lining .....Limosines ...Even Flying in Private Jets. : : WANT TO SEE THE PROOF ???? : : : : : Its called the almighty BUCK. Menendez has a war chest that no one can compete with. So he buys loyalty, and controls the elected leaders that are supposed to be working for us. : : : : Why does Bob Porky Pig Menendez have such control over our Jersey City politicians?Can someone please tell me before i vote in November,in the Mayoral election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE! posted Message 6090 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 17:42:32 Subject: FORGED? :::Know someone who went around getting signatures for the petition. There are 4 Manzos in the Heights area. Several are seniors. The game plan BY THE HEALY CAMP was to have one of them on the ticket. They think the people of Jersey City are as dumb as they are. New game plans to be made at the Astor soon. (Things aint been the same since Sullys closed) : the signatures were forged to make the healy camp look foolish there i proof. gerry mccann is bragging about it : nice try gerry.healy will win regardless of his dirty tricks.go jerry! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6091 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 19:09:33 Subject: Whine, whine, whine .... The whining on this site continues ad nauseum. Face the facts .. Menendez and Doria have been the 2 most productive representatives for Jersey City and Hudson County in recent memory. They have brought millions of dollars in Federal and State funding for a myriad of projects that benefit the citizens of this City and County. But you guys continue to whine if it makes you feel better. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6092 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 19:16:52 Subject: Sandy's 15 minutes of fame Too bad the folks at the NY Times don't know Sandy and her crew as well as we do. How many crocodile tears is she going to shed in how many interviews ? And how many times is she going to blame her husband's death on all the stress he experienced at the hands of his political rivals ? Give us all a freaking break. Glenn and the UTN Gang were corrupt racists who had their day. Their 15 minutes of fame is passing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 6093 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 21:20:00 Subject: Get thee to a nunnery If thou dost marry, I'll give thee this plague for thy dowry: be thou as chaste as ice, as pure as snow, thou shalt not escape calumny. Get thee to a nunnery. Go, farewell. Or if thou wilt needs marry, marry a fool, for wise men know well enough what monsters you make of them. To a nunnery, go, and quickly too. Farewell. (Hamlet to Ophelia) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where Porky Pig Eats posted Message 6094 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 21:38:54 Subject: Menendez Lives High On the Hog Here are just SOME of Congressman Menendez's Dinner Expenditures - All paid out of his campaign account. These are JUST SOME -- THERE ARE LOTS MORE Amanda's, Hoboken, NJ $400 1/2/2003 Meals Arthur's Landing, Weehawken, NJ $69 10/14/2003 Meals Bareli's, Secaucus, NJ $190 1/2/2003 Meals Bareli's, Secaucus, NJ $141 1/13/2003 Meals Beacon Grille, New York, NY $340 9/9/2003 Meals Cafe Matisse, Rutherford, NJ $271 10/14/2003 Meals Caffe Milano, Washington, DC $483 1/30/2003 Meals Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $174 5/16/2003 Meals Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $123 12/15/2003 Meals Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $111 2/23/2004 Meals Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $111 3/31/2004 Meals Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $108 6/1/2004 Meals Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $95 7/2/2003 Meals Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $95 6/1/2004 Meals Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $92 4/28/2003 Meals Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $82 6/1/2004 Meals Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $79 2/23/2004 Meals Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $73 12/15/2003 Meals Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $65 1/20/2004 Meals Charlie Palmer's, Washington, DC $305 11/5/2003 Meals Charlie Palmer's, Washington, DC $232 7/2/2003 Meals Chop House, Washington, DC $132 6/30/2004 Meals Chop House, Washington, DC $90 6/1/2004 Meals Chart House, Weehawken, NJ $323 1/13/2003 Meals Drinkwaters, Scottsdale, AZ $229 11/5/2003 Meals Durants, Phoenix, AZ $371 11/5/2003 Meals Emerald Garden, Millburn, NJ $120 5/16/2003 Meals Emerald Garden, Millburn, NJ $118 5/16/2003 Meals Emerald Garden, Millburn, NJ $86 5/16/2003 Meals Fleming's, Edgewater, NJ $353 2/23/2004 Meals Frankie & Johnny, Hoboken, NJ $443 9/9/2003 Meals Frankie & Johnny, Hoboken, NJ $233 11/5/2003 Meals Hyatt Hotels, Washington, DC $10 12/10/2003 Meals Il Castellos, Woodbridge, NJ $254 9/9/2003 Meals Il Castellos, Woodbridge, NJ $199 1/20/2004 Meals Il Castellos, Woodbridge, NJ $60 9/9/2003 Meals La Lomita Dos, Washington, DC $73 12/15/2003 Meals Mastro's Steakhouse, Beverly Hills, CA $201 3/31/2004 Meals Meson Espanol Inc., West New York, NJ $120 6/1/2004 Meals Meson Espanol Inc., West New York, NJ $120 6/30/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $492 4/29/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $439 6/1/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $428 8/20/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $408 8/20/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $389 8/20/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $364 6/1/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $339 7/2/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $338 12/15/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $337 6/1/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $321 3/31/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $304 8/20/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $300 7/2/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $292 6/1/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $277 8/20/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $271 2/23/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $271 3/31/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $268 4/29/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $265 7/2/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $264 3/31/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $260 12/15/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $259 3/17/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $249 12/15/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $248 9/9/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $247 8/20/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $246 4/28/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $246 9/9/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $243 6/1/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $241 6/30/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $238 5/16/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $237 7/2/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $236 11/5/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $234 7/2/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $230 7/2/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $222 4/29/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $221 6/30/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $216 3/17/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $215 8/20/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $213 3/31/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $211 12/15/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $211 6/30/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $210 9/9/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $206 5/16/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $202 5/16/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $172 3/17/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $163 8/20/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $98 4/29/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $68 4/28/2003 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $63 6/30/2004 Meals Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $32 9/9/2003 Meals Morton's of Paramus, Hackensack, NJ $381 1/13/2003 Meals National Democratic Club, Washington, DC $215 4/28/2003 Meals National Democratic Club, Washington, DC $200 4/28/2004 Meals National Democratic Club, Washington, DC $200 5/14/2004 Meals National Democratic Club, Washington, DC $24 1/2/2004 Meals National Democratic Club, Washington, DC $24 1/20/2004 Meals Panico's, New Brunswick, NJ $283 4/28/2003 Meals Panico's, New Brunswick, NJ $218 4/28/2003 Meals Puccini's Restaurant, Jersey City, NJ $359 1/2/2003 Meals Puccini's Restaurant, Jersey City, NJ $112 1/2/2003 Meals Puccini's Restaurant, Jersey City, NJ $101 11/5/2003 Meals Puccini's Restaurant, Jersey City, NJ $91 3/31/2004 Meals Puccini's Restaurant, Jersey City, NJ $88 3/31/2004 Meals Puccini's Restaurant, Jersey City, NJ $73 3/17/2003 Meals Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $327 1/2/2003 Meals Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $180 1/13/2003 Meals Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $156 3/13/2003 Meals Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $116 1/2/2003 Meals Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $102 1/13/2003 Meals Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $89 12/10/2003 Meals Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $52 4/24/2003 Meals Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $51 4/24/2003 Meals Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $26 1/20/2004 Meals Rio Chama Steak House, Santa Fe, NM $705 12/15/2003 Meals Ristorante Tosca, Washington, DC $353 8/20/2003 Meals Ristorante Tosca, Washington, DC $353 11/5/2003 Meals Ristorante, Washington, DC $378 1/2/2003 Meals Ristorante, Washington, DC $224 3/17/2003 Meals Ristorante, Washington, DC $150 6/1/2004 Meals Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $255 11/5/2003 Meals Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $212 7/2/2003 Meals Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $195 5/16/2003 Meals Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $168 1/20/2004 Meals Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $150 6/30/2004 Meals Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $131 9/9/2003 Meals Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $125 7/2/2003 Meals Signatures Restaurant, Washington, DC $256 7/2/2003 Meals South City Grill, Rochelle Park, NJ $371 12/10/2003 Meals South City Grill, Rochelle Park, NJ $229 1/20/2004 Meals Spirito's Grill, Weehawken, NJ $82 3/31/2004 Meals Stony Hill Inn, Hackensack, NJ $34 6/1/2004 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $187 9/9/2003 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $118 12/15/2003 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $56 5/16/2003 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $39 12/15/2003 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $31 4/28/2003 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $26 6/30/2004 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $23 6/1/2004 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $22 9/9/2003 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $20 8/20/2003 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $17 7/2/2003 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $17 8/20/2003 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $16 7/2/2003 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $14 12/15/2003 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $12 7/2/2003 Meals U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $10 11/5/2003 Meals Vale, Hoboken, NJ $273 11/5/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $394 12/10/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $384 11/5/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $298 10/14/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $269 11/5/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $210 9/9/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $204 12/10/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $203 9/9/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $198 11/5/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $197 1/20/2004 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $169 9/9/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $166 9/9/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $158 6/30/2004 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $139 6/9/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $117 11/5/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $97 7/2/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $91 12/10/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $87 1/20/2004 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $79 9/9/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $56 4/24/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $52 6/9/2003 Meals Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $46 6/9/2003 Meals ***************** End Of Article ****************** what a B posted Message 6095 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 21:58:12 Subject: Re: Get thee to a nunnery I WON'T SUPPORT THAT BIT@#$ FOR A DOG CATHER. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jaye posted Message 6096 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2004 at 22:43:26 Subject: Re: Menendez Lives High On the Hog so what he likes to eat no crime here. he gets an expense account with his job they all do not only him. and we vote for it so who are the a$$es here??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 6097 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 07:38:06 Subject: FLOOD WATCH FLOOD WATCH Urban Time News September 10, 2004 - September 16, 2004 by UTN Staff As election activities gear up, signs and posters touting the Acting Mayor Council President dominate the scene, riskily being torn down by mischievous teens. While acknowledging that the Acting Mayor Council President has a lot of signs up, citizens are also asking where is Willie Floods' signage? Entering the race late but strong, the Flood campaign is working hard to raise awareness and support for the former Cunningham aide. Expecting to make their mark soon, the Committee to Elect Willie Flood has produced flyers and pamphlets exhorting the qualifications of a true servant to Jersey City. Ms. Flood hails originally from Mobile, Alabama. She holds a B.S. degree from Alabama State College and a Master's degree from Jersey City State. The wife of Phillip T. Flood and mother of two sons, John Todd and Phillip II, she and her husband received the "Parents of the Year Award" from the state of New Jersey in 2003. Willie first moved to Jersey City in 1962. She was an elementary school teacher from 1962 - 1978, and is still stopped by parents and children who got a chance to sit in her classrooms. She was Assistant Principal at the Whitney M. Young Jr. School, and coordinator of desegregation for the Jersey City school district, so her influence has long touched Jersey City citizens on both sides of the tracks. Willie has been an elected member of the Jersey City Board of Education since 1974. She has been a member of the Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Parade and Scholarship Committee, and is a clerk at Mt. Olive Baptist Church. As a member of the Jersey City Parent's Council, NAACP, and Rainbow PUSH, Willie Flood has been a consistent voice in the community, raising awareness, campaigning and educating others to garner the best results for Jersey City in diverse arenas. On the political front, Willie Flood is no novice, but rather an expert with the fortitude and attitude necessary to sustain cooperative relationships. She is the former Vice Chairperson of the Hudson County Democratic Organization. She is the present chairperson of the Reform Democratic Organization. Working in the community she has touched the lives of elder citizens, as former Director of Hudson County Senior Affairs. Willie Flood has also shown business acumen and advocacy as a former Director of Hudson County Consumer Affairs. She was elected to the Jersey City Council and served for three years, stepping into the term of a council member who passed while in office, later winning her own seat As an aide to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham she was his eyes and ears in the community, and fostered the relationships that would become his trademark. Like Cunningham, Flood believes the Jersey City mayor should be a person of the people, one who listens and is involved, and who cares about all Jersey City citizens, regardless of race, creed, or color. Nationally, Flood has participated as co-coordinator for the successful Bill Clinton for President Committee. Not surprising from a woman who has been elected as a Democratic committee person for the past 20 years. Willie Flood offers a breath of fresh air in an increasingly stale election race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Shakespeare posted Message 6098 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 08:08:04 Subject: Re: For a City Hall Widow, Politics Can Wait, for Now Lady Macbeth was her favorite role...was that on stage or in real life? : For a City Hall Widow, Politics Can Wait, for Now : By JONATHAN MILLER : New York Times : Published: September 16, 2004 : JERSEY CITY : THE voice on the answering machine is a familiar one: "Hi, this is Glenn," says the former mayor of Jersey City. "And this is Sandy Cunningham," adds his widow. : Though it has been nearly four months since the death of Glenn D. Cunningham, the city's first black mayor, his wife of six years can't bring herself to erase the tape. Not yet, at least. Even now, supporters still call just to hear his voice, and many of them would very much like her to take his place in the corner office in City Hall and at the head of their insurgent political faction. : Advertisement : : : Will she or won't she? The question arose quickly after Mr. Cunningham, 60, died of a heart attack on May 25. So quickly that as his body lay in a coffin covered with a flag in the Jersey City Armory, politicians just a few yards away were discussing his wife's chances in a special election set for Nov. 2. : Sandra A. Bolden Cunningham, 50, was asked all summer about her intentions, and the answer finally came a few weeks ago: Not now, maybe later. "I don't think this is the time for me," she said as she sat at the Hard Grove Café here last week and sipped a café con leche. Instead, she endorsed her husband's former police chief, Ronald D. Buonocore, one of 14 candidates who filed papers to run by the deadline yesterday. : But it is clear that she has enjoyed the attention. A former actress in the influential Negro Ensemble Company, she counts Lady Macbeth as her favorite role. (" 'Out, damned spot! Out' - I like that.") At the mayor's funeral, Councilwoman Viola Richardson brought a roaring crowd of 5,000 to its feet when she proclaimed to his widow, "We will honor you and support you in any way possible in the fulfillment of his dreams." : "It was wonderful," Mrs. Cunningham recalled, and her eyes moistened. : She was dressed for the interview in a conservative brown pantsuit, a straw hat pulled far down on her head. A heart-shaped locket that she bought after her husband's death hung around her neck; it contains a lock of his hair. She spoke softly, measuring and drawing out her words, sometimes correcting herself and restarting in midsentence. She broke into a broad smile and let out an easy, deep laugh when talking about the crazy rough-and-tumble of Jersey City politics, and about how her acting career was derailed. "I cannot sing," she explained. "At all." Then she demonstrated, with an airy warble. : But she has a hard edge, too. Mrs. Cunningham forbade many of her husband's political rivals to attend his funeral. "I think they didn't give Glenn any respect while he was living," she said. "You can be an adversary of someone and have a difference of opinion, but you don't have to try to disrespect a person and destroy a person, and I think that's what their goal was." : She grew up in Newark, the daughter of a preacher, and graduated from West Side High School and Bloomfield College. When her stage career stalled, she moved on to jobs in Essex County, and in 1988 became the executive director of the Hudson County Bar Association. She met her future husband, a councilman and former Jersey City police officer, while interviewing him for a public-access television program. They dated for 10 years and married in 1998. : Three years later, she played a central role in his campaign for mayor, and later sat in on staff meetings and prepped an often-exhausted mayor before events. "Glenn and I always saw each other as partners," she said. : BUT the mayor had a long, bitter struggle with the City Council and the Democratic regulars led by Representative Robert Menendez. There was ugliness on both sides. Mrs. Cunningham said she often saw fliers comparing her husband to a pig; a weekly newspaper published by an adviser to Mr. Cunningham referred to their opponents as organized criminals. Mrs. Cunningham says she believes that the stress contributed to her husband's death. : Since his death, battles have erupted over everything from the city's removal of his name from a park plaque to the fierce campaign for mayor. Even the faction that supported Mr. Cunningham, the Hudson County Reform Democratic Organization, has splintered. "It's so crazy out there now," Mrs. Cunningham said of her decision not to run. "I have enough problems." : Still, she says that after her husband died, she was interested in the State Senate seat he had held since January. "If I had been offered his seat, I would have probably taken it," she said. The seat went to Joseph V. Doria, the mayor of Bayonne and a former state assemblyman. : Some of her husband's former staff members say they think she is preparing to run for mayor in May. Is that a possibility? She smiled. "Anything's possible," she said. Could she see herself running the city? "Oh, definitely,'' she replied. "I think I would be a good mayor." She keeps busy settling her husband's estate and working on the foundation they created to help C-average students in Jersey City go on to college. Though she supports Mr. Buonocore for mayor, she said she did not plan much campaigning. "Because if I wanted to get that involved," she said, "I'd run." ***************** End Of Article ****************** THey Got Caught posted Message 6099 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 10:05:02 Subject: Too Lazy How come Gaughan didn't deny that his wife signed it? He just said that he doesn't control his wife. Yeah, right?/ THe Healy camp are too stupid, drunk and lazy to even try and cover their tracks. The good news is that they will probably be too blind to find the polling booths. : :::Know someone who went around getting signatures for the petition. There are 4 Manzos in the Heights area. Several are seniors. The game plan BY THE HEALY CAMP was to have one of them on the ticket. They think the people of Jersey City are as dumb as they are. New game plans to be made at the Astor soon. (Things aint been the same since Sullys closed) : : the signatures were forged to make the healy camp look foolish there i proof. gerry mccann is bragging about it : : nice try gerry.healy will win regardless of his dirty tricks.go jerry! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6100 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 10:16:01 Subject: Oxygen please A breath of fresh air ??? Surely you jest ??? Ms. Flood has been a hack in the Democratic organization for years. She has accomplished nothing in every post she has held. Other than picking up a paycheck. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6101 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 10:40:55 Subject: John Watson to Announce Campaign for the State Senate in the 31st John Watson is to announce today that he is running for the State Senate in the 31st District. This race is for the unexpired term of Glenn Cunningham's seat. John Watson is allied with Ron Buoncore. Buoncore is on the ballot this November in the special election for Mayor of Jersey City with the support of Glenn's widow, Sandra Cunningham. The press conference is scheduled for 2PM today, September 20, 2004 at 50 Madison Street in Jersey City. That is at the corner of Clinton and Madison in front of the Salem Baptist Church, just south of the West Police Precinct on Communipaw Avenue. The other announced candidates are Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone, Mayor of Bayonne, Joe Doria and, Jersey City NAACP Head Kabili Tayari. Since the death of Jersey City Mayor and State Senator Glenn Cunningham, Doria has served as State Senator. He was elected by the Democratic Committee people of the 31st. ***************** End Of Article ****************** get a life posted Message 6102 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 10:43:50 Subject: Re: Menendez Lives High On the Hog Campaign contributions are from private citizens, not government entities. If you are a contributor, and you diagree, then you should call and complain. Otherwise, this witchhunt has to end. What exactly are you trying to prove? If you are going to list expenditures, do it for all elected officials. Or we can look at actual government agencies and what they spend on meals. Wasnt there an article a few months ago regarding the JC Parking Authority monthly dinner that costs taxpayers several thousand dollars each month? : Here are just SOME of Congressman Menendez's Dinner Expenditures - : All paid out of his campaign account. : These are JUST SOME -- THERE ARE LOTS MORE : Amanda's, Hoboken, NJ $400 1/2/2003 Meals : Arthur's Landing, Weehawken, NJ $69 10/14/2003 Meals : Bareli's, Secaucus, NJ $190 1/2/2003 Meals : Bareli's, Secaucus, NJ $141 1/13/2003 Meals : Beacon Grille, New York, NY $340 9/9/2003 Meals : Cafe Matisse, Rutherford, NJ $271 10/14/2003 Meals : Caffe Milano, Washington, DC $483 1/30/2003 Meals : Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $174 5/16/2003 Meals : Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $123 12/15/2003 Meals : Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $111 2/23/2004 Meals : Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $111 3/31/2004 Meals : Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $108 6/1/2004 Meals : Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $95 7/2/2003 Meals : Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $95 6/1/2004 Meals : Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $92 4/28/2003 Meals : Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $82 6/1/2004 Meals : Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $79 2/23/2004 Meals : Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $73 12/15/2003 Meals : Casa Dante, Jersey City, NJ $65 1/20/2004 Meals : Charlie Palmer's, Washington, DC $305 11/5/2003 Meals : Charlie Palmer's, Washington, DC $232 7/2/2003 Meals : Chop House, Washington, DC $132 6/30/2004 Meals : Chop House, Washington, DC $90 6/1/2004 Meals : Chart House, Weehawken, NJ $323 1/13/2003 Meals : Drinkwaters, Scottsdale, AZ $229 11/5/2003 Meals : Durants, Phoenix, AZ $371 11/5/2003 Meals : Emerald Garden, Millburn, NJ $120 5/16/2003 Meals : Emerald Garden, Millburn, NJ $118 5/16/2003 Meals : Emerald Garden, Millburn, NJ $86 5/16/2003 Meals : Fleming's, Edgewater, NJ $353 2/23/2004 Meals : Frankie & Johnny, Hoboken, NJ $443 9/9/2003 Meals : Frankie & Johnny, Hoboken, NJ $233 11/5/2003 Meals : Hyatt Hotels, Washington, DC $10 12/10/2003 Meals : Il Castellos, Woodbridge, NJ $254 9/9/2003 Meals : Il Castellos, Woodbridge, NJ $199 1/20/2004 Meals : Il Castellos, Woodbridge, NJ $60 9/9/2003 Meals : La Lomita Dos, Washington, DC $73 12/15/2003 Meals : Mastro's Steakhouse, Beverly Hills, CA $201 3/31/2004 Meals : Meson Espanol Inc., West New York, NJ $120 6/1/2004 Meals : Meson Espanol Inc., West New York, NJ $120 6/30/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $492 4/29/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $439 6/1/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $428 8/20/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $408 8/20/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $389 8/20/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $364 6/1/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $339 7/2/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $338 12/15/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $337 6/1/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $321 3/31/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $304 8/20/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $300 7/2/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $292 6/1/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $277 8/20/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $271 2/23/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $271 3/31/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $268 4/29/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $265 7/2/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $264 3/31/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $260 12/15/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $259 3/17/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $249 12/15/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $248 9/9/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $247 8/20/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $246 4/28/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $246 9/9/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $243 6/1/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $241 6/30/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $238 5/16/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $237 7/2/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $236 11/5/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $234 7/2/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $230 7/2/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $222 4/29/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $221 6/30/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $216 3/17/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $215 8/20/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $213 3/31/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $211 12/15/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $211 6/30/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $210 9/9/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $206 5/16/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $202 5/16/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $172 3/17/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $163 8/20/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $98 4/29/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $68 4/28/2003 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $63 6/30/2004 Meals : Morton's Of Chicago, Washington, DC $32 9/9/2003 Meals : Morton's of Paramus, Hackensack, NJ $381 1/13/2003 Meals : National Democratic Club, Washington, DC $215 4/28/2003 Meals : National Democratic Club, Washington, DC $200 4/28/2004 Meals : National Democratic Club, Washington, DC $200 5/14/2004 Meals : National Democratic Club, Washington, DC $24 1/2/2004 Meals : National Democratic Club, Washington, DC $24 1/20/2004 Meals : Panico's, New Brunswick, NJ $283 4/28/2003 Meals : Panico's, New Brunswick, NJ $218 4/28/2003 Meals : Puccini's Restaurant, Jersey City, NJ $359 1/2/2003 Meals : Puccini's Restaurant, Jersey City, NJ $112 1/2/2003 Meals : Puccini's Restaurant, Jersey City, NJ $101 11/5/2003 Meals : Puccini's Restaurant, Jersey City, NJ $91 3/31/2004 Meals : Puccini's Restaurant, Jersey City, NJ $88 3/31/2004 Meals : Puccini's Restaurant, Jersey City, NJ $73 3/17/2003 Meals : Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $327 1/2/2003 Meals : Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $180 1/13/2003 Meals : Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $156 3/13/2003 Meals : Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $116 1/2/2003 Meals : Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $102 1/13/2003 Meals : Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $89 12/10/2003 Meals : Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $52 4/24/2003 Meals : Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $51 4/24/2003 Meals : Renaissance Hotel, Rutherford, NJ $26 1/20/2004 Meals : Rio Chama Steak House, Santa Fe, NM $705 12/15/2003 Meals : Ristorante Tosca, Washington, DC $353 8/20/2003 Meals : Ristorante Tosca, Washington, DC $353 11/5/2003 Meals : Ristorante, Washington, DC $378 1/2/2003 Meals : Ristorante, Washington, DC $224 3/17/2003 Meals : Ristorante, Washington, DC $150 6/1/2004 Meals : Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $255 11/5/2003 Meals : Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $212 7/2/2003 Meals : Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $195 5/16/2003 Meals : Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $168 1/20/2004 Meals : Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $150 6/30/2004 Meals : Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $131 9/9/2003 Meals : Ruth's Chris Steak House, Weehawken, NJ $125 7/2/2003 Meals : Signatures Restaurant, Washington, DC $256 7/2/2003 Meals : South City Grill, Rochelle Park, NJ $371 12/10/2003 Meals : South City Grill, Rochelle Park, NJ $229 1/20/2004 Meals : Spirito's Grill, Weehawken, NJ $82 3/31/2004 Meals : Stony Hill Inn, Hackensack, NJ $34 6/1/2004 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $187 9/9/2003 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $118 12/15/2003 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $56 5/16/2003 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $39 12/15/2003 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $31 4/28/2003 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $26 6/30/2004 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $23 6/1/2004 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $22 9/9/2003 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $20 8/20/2003 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $17 7/2/2003 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $17 8/20/2003 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $16 7/2/2003 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $14 12/15/2003 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $12 7/2/2003 Meals : U.S. House Members Dining Room, Washington, DC $10 11/5/2003 Meals : Vale, Hoboken, NJ $273 11/5/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $394 12/10/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $384 11/5/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $298 10/14/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $269 11/5/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $210 9/9/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $204 12/10/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $203 9/9/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $198 11/5/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $197 1/20/2004 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $169 9/9/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $166 9/9/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $158 6/30/2004 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $139 6/9/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $117 11/5/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $97 7/2/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $91 12/10/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $87 1/20/2004 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $79 9/9/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $56 4/24/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $52 6/9/2003 Meals : Vivo Restaurante, Passaic, NJ $46 6/9/2003 Meals ***************** End Of Article ****************** What a load posted Message 6103 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 10:56:57 Subject: Re: Oxygen please Agreed, She can not point to one single accomplishment in any of her posts. She was the right race and gender for the roles they needed her to fill., She fit the profile that was needed and you will note the jobs are ones where there was no heavy lifting or can't get into a lot of trouble. : A breath of fresh air ??? Surely you jest ??? : Ms. Flood has been a hack in the Democratic organization for years. She has accomplished nothing in every post she has held. Other than picking up a paycheck. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Asbury Insider posted Message 6104 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 10:59:56 Subject: Ms Vicky? yes But what about Glenn's Ms Vicky??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 6105 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 12:12:51 Subject: Re: Rumor Yeah Ray Manzo has been a junkie for a long time. It was just a matter of time. : Has anyone heard a rumor that Manzo has HIV? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sherlock Holmes posted Message 6106 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 12:31:23 Subject: It's elementary my dear Watson I fear that your chances are no better than a snowball in Hell. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tiny Tim posted Message 6107 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 12:33:56 Subject: Tip-toe thru the Tulips Tell me more. I can't imagine Ms. Vicky would ever do anything inappropriate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Juke posted Message 6108 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 12:34:03 Subject: Rhyme for Ron Buonocore What rhymes with bike? Ill give you a hint, it begins with a D! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GWFRB posted Message 6109 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 13:31:22 Subject: Gay women for Buonocore Go Ron Go all the way back to Smoke Rise. I can't blame him, I also love lesbians ,just not the ones he loves.(I love the ones that are on the spice channel) ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth posted Message 6110 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 14:07:30 Subject: Healy fading fast Morale is low and top guys in the camp are making deals to come aboard with the Lou Manzo Camp. A sad campaign for a sad, 3rd rate canidate....Jerry Healy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Oy Vey posted Message 6111 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 14:08:40 Subject: This is getting more ridiculous all the time : all the way back to Smoke Rise. I can't blame him, I also love lesbians ,just not the ones he loves.(I love the ones that are on the spice channel) ***************** End Of Article ****************** And it's a darn shame posted Message 6112 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 14:11:22 Subject: Re: Healy fading fast ::Jerry is a legitimately nice guy. But the fact remains, he does not want this job. He was pushed into it. Tom, Bill, Buddy and Comp. want this. I do feel badly for Jerry. : Morale is low and top guys in the camp are making deals to come aboard with the Lou Manzo Camp. A sad campaign for a sad, 3rd rate canidate....Jerry Healy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Junk Box posted Message 6113 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 14:55:58 Subject: Ray Manzo HIV Ray Manzo is a junkie with HIV. The Healy camp had to resort to a drug addict to help boost his campaign. A bad move by sad, 3rd rate canidate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Act Up posted Message 6114 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 15:14:25 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo HIV Nope it is Lou Manzo with HIV. Nice try to deflect the issue ***************** End Of Article ****************** Junk Box posted Message 6115 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 15:18:10 Subject: Ray Manzo male prostitute with HIV Also an ex mayoral canidate. Bill Gaughan and Tom Degise are his sugar daddies. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Junk Box posted Message 6116 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 15:22:03 Subject: If elected Healy promises free needles & dope for junkies Jerry Healy also promises bars will be open 24/7 and will legalize public urination & nudity. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY FOR MAYOR posted Message 6117 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 15:50:08 Subject: Re: Ray Manzo HIV OH PLEASE GIVE IT UP ALREADY.. YOU MANZO PEOPLE MUST BE GETTING REALLY NERVOUS HUH?? YOU AFRAID JERRY HEALY WILL BE OUR NEXT MAYOR SO WILL SAY ANYTHING YOU CAN COME UP WITH.. WELL GUESS WHAT ITS NOT WORKING!! GO JERRY!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Studebaker posted Message 6118 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 17:05:58 Subject: I guess his neighbors know him best! Healy's neighbors are putting up Buonocore signs! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy for AA posted Message 6119 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 17:08:19 Subject: Re: Ray Manzo HIV What are we nervous of, NOTHING. The Healy campaign is nervous. HIV Ray has dropped out, and all you guys could muster up was a junkie with HIV to try and win a campaign.I think you guys are finished. As a matter of fact, you guys ARE finished. Healy, stupid enough to run , Stupid enough not to drop out. . : OH PLEASE GIVE IT UP ALREADY.. YOU MANZO PEOPLE MUST BE GETTING REALLY NERVOUS HUH?? YOU AFRAID JERRY HEALY WILL BE OUR NEXT MAYOR SO WILL SAY ANYTHING YOU CAN COME UP WITH.. WELL GUESS WHAT ITS NOT WORKING!! GO JERRY!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy for AA posted Message 6120 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 17:09:17 Subject: Re: I guess his neighbors know him best! They know he is finished. : Healy's neighbors are putting up Buonocore signs! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mark Genovese - NYSNA posted Message 6121 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 17:13:34 Subject: Greenville nurses to protest hospital’s stalling over contract For immediate release Contact: Regina Weiss (212) 785-0157, Ext. 179 Mark Genovese (518) 782-9400, Ext. 353 Nancy Webber (518) 782-9400, Ext. 223 Greenville nurses to protest hospital’s stalling over contract JERSEY CITY, Sept. 20, 2004 – It’s been 17 months since registered nurses at Greenville Hospital voted to unionize, yet they are still without a contract. Taking their frustration to the public, the RNs will picket the facility on Thursday, Sept. 23, from 11:30 a.m. to 1 p.m. The picket will take place in front of the hospital, at 1825 Kennedy Blvd. “We’ve been attempting to negotiate with the hospital for more than a year, but all they bring to the table are stall tactics,” said Thomas Jennings, a labor representative for the union the nurses voted to join – the New York State Nurses Association (NYSNA). “This continues the pattern of an utter lack of respect that led these nurses to unionize in the first place.” The Greenville RNs voted by an overwhelming majority on April 24, 2003, to join NYSNA after enduring years of terrible working conditions. The RNs want the hospital to hire enough nurses to allow them to safely care for their patients. They are tired of being forced to work overtime because there aren’t enough nurses on staff. They are angry that they are forced to work through their meal breaks, yet are not paid for those hours. And they are distraught that the hospital has taken away their pension plan. The RNs want the hospital to agree to safe staffing guidelines, and to hold regular labor/management and nursing practice meetings, so that issues affecting patient care can be addressed and resolved. The nurses also have concerns about hospital security. They point out that, earlier this month, a patient came into the emergency room who posed an environmental hazard to the facility’s patients and staff, but the security personnel on hand had no idea of how to handle the situation. According to federal regulations, all hospital personnel who would reasonably be expected to handle and care for a person who has potentially been contaminated by hazardous materials must be trained to deal with the situation safely. Greenville Hospital is part of Liberty Health Systems, which also owns Meadowlands Hospital and Jersey City Medical Center, both facilities where the nurses are unionized and have had contracts for years. With more than 34,000 members, NYSNA is the oldest and largest state nurses’ association in the nation. It is an influential union for RNs, representing nurses in New York and New Jersey. Offering a wide range of services to its members, NYSNA fosters high standards of nursing education and practice and works to advance the profession through legislative activity. It is a constituent of the American Nurses Association and of the United American Nurses, an affiliate of the AFL-CIO. —30— ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth posted Message 6122 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 17:32:50 Subject: Healy Gaughan & Degise are gay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mud Pirate posted Message 6123 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 17:41:43 Subject: Lou Manzo HIV No Lou "Mud Pirate" Manzo has the HIV! From having unprotected sex with other males. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Healy Supporters posted Message 6124 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 17:49:39 Subject: Re: Jerry Healy HIV Jerry Healy has contracted HIV from Jimmy Dickson : No Lou "Mud Pirate" Manzo has the HIV! From having unprotected sex with other males. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Healy Supporters posted Message 6125 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 17:50:38 Subject: Re: Healy Gaughan & Degise HIV : are gay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GAUGHAN /DEGISE/HEALY posted Message 6126 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 17:54:42 Subject: WE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT in saturday's JJ THe Political Insider:"RAYMOND MANZO DID NOT ENTER THE RACE TO TAKE VOTES AWAY FROM LOUIS MANZO"Even though Gaughan's wife and DeGise's brother in law SIGNED THE PETITION FOR him. But they knew nothing about it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** : Jerry Healy has contracted HIV from Jimmy Dickson posted Message 6127 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 17:56:01 Subject: Re: Jerry Healy HIV : Jerry Healy has contracted HIV from Jimmy Dickson : : No Lou "Mud Pirate" Manzo has the HIV! From having unprotected sex with other males. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The insider posted Message 6128 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 18:39:05 Subject: J Dolan We now know J Dolan is Jimmy Dickson. I am from the Healy camp and I can't stomach this individual. I just feel bad for Jerry because he is a good man with many good supporters and I feel we do not have to stoop as low as some of the other canidates workers. He is not posting any more because some of the key people in our camp have told him to do more contructive and positive things to help Jerry win the mayoral seat. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAYE posted Message 6129 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 19:23:49 Subject: Re: Healy fading fast HA-HA-HA I THINK IT IS JUST THE OPPOSITE MANZOS PEOPLE ARE DEFECTING TO HEALY THE TOP GUN IN THIS RACE. IF HE WAS'NT THE LEADER NO ONE WOULD BE SHOOTING AT HIS CAMPAIGN SO KEEP SHOOTING IT MAKES US FEEL GOOD TO BE AHEAD OF THE PACK. HEALY BY A WIDE MARGIN IN NOVEMBER DESPITE ALL THE CANDIDATES IN THE RACE. SO GO JERRY !!! PS. A FACT IS LOUIS IS SLIPPING IN THE POLLS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAYE084 posted Message 6130 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 19:26:22 Subject: Re: Ms Vicky? YOU ARE A SICKY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 6131 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 20:48:34 Subject: McAnn hi ger missed ya in DC over weekend ;;;; still stalkin 22 yr. olds or moving on to more desperate things AKA;; LM ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jimmy is it. posted Message 6132 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 21:03:18 Subject: Talk about pond scum : Jerry Healy has contracted HIV from Jimmy Dickson : : No Lou "Mud Pirate" Manzo has the HIV! From having unprotected sex with other males. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RED FLYER posted Message 6133 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 21:22:23 Subject: Re: J Dolan : GODda## shame that you should knock a loyal solider in the likes of JIMMY DICKSON YOU are not repeat YOU are not from OUR camp ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy/4mayor posted Message 6134 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2004 at 22:47:24 Subject: Re: J Dolan : : REDFLYER IS CORRECT JUST ASK HEALY OR anybody in our camp as for you insider come out come out where ever you are OR keep being the punk bit$$ your mommy raised you 2 bbbbbb ***************** End Of Article ****************** Christopher Christy posted Message 6135 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 00:47:05 Subject: Re: Online Video: Ron Buonocore Speaks at the Buonocore for Mayor Heights Grand Opening he stated a poll was taken and he was tied for first, where was that poll taken in his campaign office.He also mentioned he was raising funds after he is removed from the ballot will he be going out of town to return those funds? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Christopher Christy posted Message 6135 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 00:47:06 Subject: Re: Online Video: Ron Buonocore Speaks at the Buonocore for Mayor Heights Grand Opening he stated a poll was taken and he was tied for first, where was that poll taken in his campaign office.He also mentioned he was raising funds after he is removed from the ballot will he be going out of town to return those funds? ***************** End Of Article ****************** be Jimmy DICKson posted Message 6136 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 06:43:08 Subject: No way could it :::He is neither sober enough nor intelligent enough to put together anything coherent. : We now know J Dolan is Jimmy Dickson. I am from the Healy camp and I can't stomach this individual. I just feel bad for Jerry because he is a good man with many good supporters and I feel we do not have to stoop as low as some of the other canidates workers. He is not posting any more because some of the key people in our camp have told him to do more contructive and positive things to help Jerry win the mayoral seat. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 6137 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 08:05:42 Subject: Menendez dealing with Manzo behind the scenes Menendez tells Manzo & Odea that he knows lou is the winner.And that after the election,he wants to work with them.He also told them that he will not dry up the money sources on them as a sign of good faith.Its over DeGise,Gaughan and Healy.Porky Pig has spoken. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reunion at Donovans in Sea Bright posted Message 6138 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 08:55:25 Subject: The Best of the best was there Saturday Tom Gaynor, Jed DiMatteo, Mike Donnelly,Ron Manzo, Jack Collins,Pete DiNardo.Ed Clark-Ex county Executive,Jim Di Nardo.Joe Kielty,Ed Bowler, Jim McLaughlin,Nancy Gaynor, Rita Rogan and many more beautiful girls from Jersey City past but no Cathy Macchi Or Mary Ellen Eastman.They were No Shows.There were many, many more greats there but no time to mention.It was one of the best reunions of old Jersey City greats in many a year.I cant wait for next year to come. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JJJJJ posted Message 6139 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 09:25:14 Subject: Re: Healy Gaughan & Degise HIV YEAH OK... WHY DO YOU WASTE YOUR TIME POSTING SUCH USELESS INFO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** More greats posted Message 6140 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 09:27:16 Subject: Re: The Best of the best was there Saturday : Tom Gaynor, Jed DiMatteo, Mike Donnelly,Ron Manzo, Jack Collins,Pete DiNardo.Ed Clark-Ex county Executive,Jim Di Nardo.Joe Kielty,Ed Bowler, Jim McLaughlin,Nancy Gaynor, Rita Rogan and many more beautiful girls from Jersey City past but no Cathy Macchi Or Mary Ellen Eastman.They were No Shows.There were many, many more greats there but no time to mention.It was one of the best reunions of old Jersey City greats in many a year.I cant wait for next year to come.More Greats who were there, Frank Hunt and Wife,Moose Mooney,Bobby Ernst,George Saxermeyer,just to name a few more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** More greats posted Message 6141 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 09:27:31 Subject: Re: The Best of the best was there Saturday : Tom Gaynor, Jed DiMatteo, Mike Donnelly,Ron Manzo, Jack Collins,Pete DiNardo.Ed Clark-Ex county Executive,Jim Di Nardo.Joe Kielty,Ed Bowler, Jim McLaughlin,Nancy Gaynor, Rita Rogan and many more beautiful girls from Jersey City past but no Cathy Macchi Or Mary Ellen Eastman.They were No Shows.There were many, many more greats there but no time to mention.It was one of the best reunions of old Jersey City greats in many a year.I cant wait for next year to come.More Greats who were there, Frank Hunt and Wife,Moose Mooney,Bobby Ernst,George Saxermeyer,just to name a few more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6142 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 09:27:34 Subject: Online Video: ohn Watson to Run for the State Senate Jersey City mayoral candidate Ron Buonocore with local businessman and decorated Vietnam War Veteran John Watson who is running for the State Senate. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6143 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 09:29:38 Subject: John Watson to Run for the State Senate Jersey City mayoral candidate Ron Buonocore with local businessman and decorated Vietnam War Veteran John Watson who is running for the State Senate. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6144 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 09:34:35 Subject: Onlin Video: John Watson to Run for the State Senate Jersey City mayoral candidate Ron Buonocore with local businessman and decorated Vietnam War Veteran John Watson who is running for the State Senate. http://audio2.thebook.com:8081/ramgen/hudsoncountyfacts/watson092004a.rm ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6145 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 09:38:02 Subject: Online Video: John Watson to Run for the State Senate Jersey City mayoral candidate Ron Buonocore with local businessman and decorated Vietnam War Veteran John Watson who is running for the State Senate. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Armageddon posted Message 6146 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 09:58:43 Subject: DeGise And Gaughan days in Leadership are numbered So say Menendez and Kenny too Manzo Group.Oh how fast they forget about loyality in hudson County Politics.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Smith = Mayor posted Message 6147 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 10:23:42 Subject: Healy to drop out of race Jerry Healy has health problems and his campaign can't get off of the ground. Key people from the Healy campaign are flocking to L Harvey Smith's camp. L Harvey Smith will have the entire HCDO behind him when all is said and done. DeGise and Gaughan know that Healy is a loser so they must regroup and get behind Smith by orders of Bob Menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Smith = Mayor posted Message 6148 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 10:46:37 Subject: Ron Buonocore looking to defect to Smith Camp Ron Buonocore is making a deal for himself and his supporters by joining forces with L Harvey Smith. Buonocore knows that Looney Lou will be taking him to court to knock him off of the ballot. This has been the plan all along (arranged by Gene Drayton)to unite Sandy Cunningham & Smith along with the HCDO. It may be only a matter of time before Flood joins also. Why do you think Drayton has been getting paid without working ? L. Harvey Smith will crush all and become thge best mayor in the history of Jersey City ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fools Gold posted Message 6149 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 10:47:39 Subject: Menendez &kenny covering all their Bases on JC Mayoral race In Contact with all camps.They dont care who wins as long as they do too.Time to throw these two do nothing into their Cess Pool. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 6150 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 10:56:33 Subject: BONOCORE IS AN IDIOT THAT IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Race as of today posted Message 6151 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 11:27:57 Subject: This order is solid as of now. 1-Manzo---2--Flood---3--Healy---4--Smith---5--Buonocore---6-- Carroll.Manzo is starting to pull away by a larger margin.I am afraid that this race is all over but the shouting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 6152 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 11:36:01 Subject: Re: This order is solid as of now. IS THAT A POLL OR YOUR OPINION? : 1-Manzo---2--Flood---3--Healy---4--Smith---5--Buonocore---6-- Carroll.Manzo is starting to pull away by a larger margin.I am afraid that this race is all over but the shouting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6153 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 11:43:31 Subject: Bret Schundler has not endorsed anyone in the Mayor's race In a phone conversation this morning, Bret Schundler says that he has not endorsed anyone in the special election for Mayor of Jersey City and has no plans to do so. I called Frmr. Mayor Schundler because yesterday a highly visible figure in the camps of one of the contestants told me that Schundler was backing that organization's candidate. As the statement is not factual, it's necessary to conclude that anyone circulating this rumor is mistaken -- at best. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy should LEAVE posted Message 6154 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 11:45:45 Subject: Re: This order is solid as of now. :Healy should be dead last, or in jail for having his campaign staff put a fake candidate on the bill, and then denying any knowledge of it. He is either completely incompetant, a crook, or both. He should get out of the race. IS THAT A POLL OR YOUR OPINION? : : : 1-Manzo---2--Flood---3--Healy---4--Smith---5--Buonocore---6-- Carroll.Manzo is starting to pull away by a larger margin.I am afraid that this race is all over but the shouting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** we all know Menendez's reputation for jumping sinking ships. posted Message 6155 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 11:47:52 Subject: What loyalty, this is Hudson County and : So say Menendez and Kenny too Manzo Group.Oh how fast they forget about loyality in hudson County Politics.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry is a nice guy posted Message 6156 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 11:48:47 Subject: It's a darn shame : Jerry Healy has health problems and his campaign can't get off of the ground. Key people from the Healy campaign are flocking to L Harvey Smith's camp. L Harvey Smith will have the entire HCDO behind him when all is said and done. DeGise and Gaughan know that Healy is a loser so they must regroup and get behind Smith by orders of Bob Menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pass it along please posted Message 6157 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 11:49:47 Subject: I'll have whatever you are smoking : Ron Buonocore is making a deal for himself and his supporters by joining forces with L Harvey Smith. Buonocore knows that Looney Lou will be taking him to court to knock him off of the ballot. : This has been the plan all along (arranged by Gene Drayton)to unite Sandy Cunningham & Smith along with the HCDO. It may be only a matter of time before Flood joins also. Why do you think Drayton has been getting paid without working ? L. Harvey Smith : will crush all and become thge best mayor in the history of Jersey City ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** those clowns around him are another story. posted Message 6158 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 11:51:57 Subject: I don't blame Healy directly BUT : :Healy should be dead last, or in jail for having his campaign staff put a fake candidate on the bill, and then denying any knowledge of it. He is either completely incompetant, a crook, or both. He should get out of the race. : IS THAT A POLL OR YOUR OPINION? : : : : : 1-Manzo---2--Flood---3--Healy---4--Smith---5--Buonocore---6-- Carroll.Manzo is starting to pull away by a larger margin.I am afraid that this race is all over but the shouting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another bad break for Healy posted Message 6159 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 12:04:45 Subject: Re: Bret Schundler has not endorsed anyone in the Mayor's race They should just pack it in. They were first counting on Ray Manzo to take votes away from Lou and then they were counting on a Bret endorsement to help boost him with republican votes. The whole Healy campaign is being based on what others can do for them rather than Healy & Co. going out and mounting a positive campaign to get people to vote for him. A sad campaign for a sad 3rd rate canidate. : In a phone conversation this morning, Bret Schundler says that he has not endorsed anyone in the special election for Mayor of Jersey City and has no plans to do so. : I called Frmr. Mayor Schundler because yesterday a highly visible figure in the camps of one of the contestants told me that Schundler was backing that organization's candidate. As the statement is not factual, it's necessary to conclude that anyone circulating this rumor is mistaken -- at best. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Breaking News posted Message 6160 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 12:12:31 Subject: Healy has dropped out of race Jerry Healy has told the JJ that health problems and poor campaign decisions have forced him out. " We have conducted a poll and it shows Manzo with a 22 point lead over us. We can't overcome Manzo's mamouth lead so I will gracefully bow out "............... MORE TO COME ***************** End Of Article ****************** This time it is true posted Message 6161 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:10:42 Subject: Re: Healy has dropped out of race I just called the Healy headquaters and they have confirmed it. If you don't believe me call : 201.795.1166 Healy is out. Jerry Healy has told the JJ that health problems and poor campaign decisions have forced him out. " We have conducted a poll and it shows Manzo with a 22 point lead over us. We can't overcome Manzo's mamouth lead so I will gracefully bow out "............... MORE TO COME ***************** End Of Article ****************** Only in JC posted Message 6162 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:20:21 Subject: Healy leaves all his supporters behind Jerry Healy is out of the race leaving his supporters in limbo. Which camp do they go to now? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan posted Message 6163 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:26:58 Subject: Re: Healy leaves all his supporters behind He will be with Glenn & myself for eternity for what he has done. At least he knows what to wear for the weather down here,his birthday suit.. : Jerry Healy is out of the race leaving his supporters in limbo. Which camp do they go to now? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6164 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:30:09 Subject: Healy hq. says he is in the race Just now, I called and the person answering at the Healy hq. says that he is in the race. : I just called the Healy headquaters and they have confirmed it. If you don't believe me call : 201.795.1166 Healy is out. Jerry Healy has told the JJ that health problems and poor campaign decisions have forced him out. " We have conducted a poll and it shows Manzo with a 22 point lead over us. We can't overcome Manzo's mamouth lead so I will gracefully bow out "............... MORE TO COME ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy drops out posted Message 6165 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:31:41 Subject: Charges being brought against him He is out because AG will be charging him & key members with fradulent campaign activities. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy MUST GO! posted Message 6166 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:36:06 Subject: Re: Charges being brought against him Healy can't deny that he KNEW his people were putting Ray Manzo on the ticket, they were all boasting about it and laughing at their Sept 14 Casino in the Park fundraising dinner! : He is out because : AG will be charging him & key members with fradulent campaign activities. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just say no to your tax dollars getting spent on their flings posted Message 6167 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:43:10 Subject: Danny-gate Jersey City fined for failure to file reports Thursday, September 16, 2004 By Earl Morgan Journal staff writer The state Department of Health has ordered Jersey City to cough up $105,000 in fines for failing to file state-required reports on hazardous substances in public buildings, officials said. Jersey City Corporation Counsel Hope Blackburn confirmed that state health officials ordered the city to pay the money - the result of $2,000-a-day fines the city compiled beginning March 1, 2002. Blackburn said she has contacted state officials to ask that-the Department of Health decrease or suspend the penalties, since efforts are being made to conform with the law that requires municipalities to survey and catalog all hazardous materials stored or used in public buildings. "I've been talking to state officials about the situation to see what can be done," Blackburn said. Daniel McMann, who works for the Jersey City Health Department, had been tasked with keeping the reports up to date. Jersey City's Health and Human Services Director Sergio Lamboy had apparently taken steps to either replace or discipline McMann after receiving complaints from state officials about the situation, but McMann is still a city employee after Assemblyman Louis Manzo, D-Jersey City, came to McMann's defense. Manzo, who also is a candidate for Jersey City mayor, said he became involved in the issue because McMann was hired on his recommendation in 2001. Lamboy said he attempted to take action against McMann after angry state officials notified the city that after five letters, 11 phone calls, and several meetings between November 2002 and March 2003, the city still wasn't in compliance with state regulations. In February, the city was notified that it was being fined $5,000 for failing to file the reports on five city owned-buildings. The city also faced an additional $2,000-a-day penalty, beginning March 1, for every day the reports were not submitted. Jersey City Director of Health Joe Gestagna said he has hired several additional people to work with McMann to comply with the state's requirements. Manzo contends that Jersey City is being unjustly penalized by the state because the fines were levied against the municipality even though officials in Trenton knew the city had no program in place to comply with the "Right To Know" mandate. "I've talked to people over at the state Department of Health and they told me the fines will probably be dropped," Manzo said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** everyhing is beautiful posted Message 6168 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:45:53 Subject: Why Lou Manzo didn't go off to war in Iraq Lou couldn't bear the thought of leaving his friends behind. ***************** End Of Article ****************** everyhing is beautiful posted Message 6168 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:45:53 Subject: Why Lou Manzo didn't go off to war in Iraq Lou couldn't bear the thought of leaving his friends behind. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J O posted Message 6169 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:52:13 Subject: Healy is gay Jerry Healy is gay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J O posted Message 6170 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:53:46 Subject: Dan McMann endorses Healy up the azz ***************** End Of Article ****************** J O posted Message 6171 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:55:12 Subject: Gaughan is gay ***************** End Of Article ****************** J O posted Message 6172 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 13:57:30 Subject: Healy headquarters say he is drunk ***************** End Of Article ****************** the poll posted Message 6173 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 14:06:55 Subject: Re: This order is solid as of now. It is a poll. Manzo 39 Flood 17 Healy 15 Smith 14 : IS THAT A POLL OR YOUR OPINION? : : : 1-Manzo---2--Flood---3--Healy---4--Smith---5--Buonocore---6-- Carroll.Manzo is starting to pull away by a larger margin.I am afraid that this race is all over but the shouting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** As posted Message 6174 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 14:18:41 Subject: Re: Healy hq. says he is in the race When you called the person who answered the phone said the Astror Bar and Healy for Mayor Headquaters. : Just now, I called and the person answering at the Healy hq. said that he is in the race. : : : I just called the Healy headquaters and they have confirmed it. If you don't believe me call : 201.795.1166 Healy is out. Jerry Healy has told the JJ that health problems and poor campaign decisions have forced him out. " We have conducted a poll and it shows Manzo with a 22 point lead over us. We can't overcome Manzo's mamouth lead so I will gracefully bow out "............... MORE TO COME ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY IS IN THE RACE TO STAY!! GO JERRY posted Message 6175 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 14:29:47 Subject: Re: Healy leaves all his supporters behind Jerry Healy is not dropping out of the race!!!!! AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT SO EOUGH OF POSTING THIS FALSE INFO!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALYFOR MAYOR!! posted Message 6176 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 14:31:48 Subject: Re: Healy has dropped out of race : OH PLEASE GIVE IT UP. tHIS FALSE POSTING ONLY TELLS ME MANZO OBVIOUSLY FEELS HE NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT HEALY IN THIS RACE HUH?? WELL THEY SHOULD WORRY BECAUSE JERRY IS IT IN NOVEMBER!! GO HEALY! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tommy Boy A-Hole posted Message 6177 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 14:38:44 Subject: Re: DeGise And Gaughan days in Leadership are numbered Tommy Boy the spine-less wonder and his monkey on-a-string Gaughan can't go soon enough. Within 30 days of Manzo getting elected the two will be history, along with their cash-register-consultant, Jeff Perseley. : So say Menendez and Kenny too Manzo Group.Oh how fast they forget about loyality in hudson County Politics.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 6178 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 14:39:42 Subject: Re: Healy leaves all his supporters behind HEALY IS IN THE RACE TO GET TO HAPPY HOUR : Jerry Healy is not dropping out of the race!!!!! AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT SO EOUGH OF POSTING THIS FALSE INFO!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mayor Lou posted Message 6179 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 14:42:46 Subject: They Are All Drunk The whole Healy camp at the Astor are drunk. How pathetic, endorsing a drunk for Mayor. Low self-esteem. : is drunk ***************** End Of Article ****************** Out With DeGise posted Message 6180 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 14:49:12 Subject: DeGise and Gaughan - Bye-Bye The crew at the County better pack their bags. Go cry to Menendez, he will help you, ... jump into the HR! : When you called the person who answered the phone said the Astror Bar and Healy for Mayor Headquaters. : : Just now, I called and the person answering at the Healy hq. said that he is in the race. : : : : : I just called the Healy headquaters and they have confirmed it. If you don't believe me call : 201.795.1166 Healy is out. Jerry Healy has told the JJ that health problems and poor campaign decisions have forced him out. " We have conducted a poll and it shows Manzo with a 22 point lead over us. We can't overcome Manzo's mamouth lead so I will gracefully bow out "............... MORE TO COME ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCIA insider posted Message 6181 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 14:50:32 Subject: Jimmy Dixon's home invasions How can the Chief of staff (Gaughan) allow Jimmy "captain crack" Dixon(his son-in-law and HCIA employee) to take support signs for Harvey Smith And Lou Manzo off the homes of citizens (which is a criminal act , he already has 26 criminal acts and counting)in Jersey City while on County time. How desperate the Healy camp must be that they would resort to mischief insteading just dealing with the issues. Greed is not an acceptable sin in Jersey City and November 2nd will prove the Degise/Gaughan Greedy train is about to derail. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Horse Bet posted Message 6182 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 14:52:55 Subject: Campaign Funds Squandered on the Horses The Healy brain-trust thought they could triple their money at the races, sorry, they lost! : He is out because : AG will be charging him & key members with fradulent campaign activities. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SIGNS posted Message 6183 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 15:18:14 Subject: Re: Jimmy Dixon's home invasions : FIRST OF ALL I HAVE TO SAY I LIVE IN THE HEIGHTS AND MY HEALY SIGNS HAVE BEEN TAKING DOWN THREE TIMES AS A MATTER OF FACT THE KID I CAUGHT WAS VERY AFRAID OF ME CALLING THE POLICE AND HE TOLD ME HE WAS BEING PAID $6.00 A SIGN BY MANZO CAMP! THATS HOW LOW THIS HAS GOTTEN SO REGARDLESS OF WHO DID WHAT I KNOW WHO MY VOTE IS GOING TO AND IT IS DEFINITELY NOT MANZO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The only true canidate posted Message 6184 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 16:53:33 Subject: LOUIS MANZO 1300 +SRO at his 1st fundraiser. 350k RAISED THE WINNER WILL BE "LANDSLIDE" LOU MANZO ***************** End Of Article ****************** GIVE ME A BREAK posted Message 6185 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 17:15:35 Subject: GREAT JOB OF EDITING THIS BOARD ANTHONY I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU LEAVE ALL THIS VIAL CRAP UP HERE ANTHONY. THIS BOARD IS WORTHLESS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yes! posted Message 6186 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 17:17:28 Subject: Re: LOUIS MANZO He's energetic, organized, and he doesn't put phony candidates on the bill, so he's got my vote! : 1300 +SRO at his 1st fundraiser. 350k RAISED : THE WINNER WILL BE "LANDSLIDE" LOU MANZO ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cough it up Lou..... I mean the CASH posted Message 6187 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 17:19:00 Subject: Re: Danny-gate YOU foited this lazy loser on us LOU. YOU should pay for his screw-ups NOT US. Cough up the cash Lou...or forget about a lot of votes in the Heights. We can't stand that little boy toy of yours to begin with. Now he's costing us money in addition to what we pay him in salary? : Jersey City fined for failure to file reports : Thursday, September 16, 2004 : By Earl Morgan : Journal staff writer : The state Department of Health has ordered Jersey City to cough up $105,000 in fines for failing to file state-required reports on hazardous substances in public buildings, officials said. : Jersey City Corporation Counsel Hope Blackburn confirmed that state health officials ordered the city to pay the money - the result of $2,000-a-day fines the city compiled beginning March 1, 2002. : : Blackburn said she has contacted state officials to ask that-the Department of Health decrease or suspend the penalties, since efforts are being made to conform with the law that requires municipalities to survey and catalog all hazardous materials stored or used in public buildings. : "I've been talking to state officials about the situation to see what can be done," Blackburn said. : Daniel McMann, who works for the Jersey City Health Department, had been tasked with keeping the reports up to date. Jersey City's Health and Human Services Director Sergio Lamboy had apparently taken steps to either replace or discipline McMann after receiving complaints from state officials about the situation, but McMann is still a city employee after Assemblyman Louis Manzo, D-Jersey City, came to McMann's defense. : Manzo, who also is a candidate for Jersey City mayor, said he became involved in the issue because McMann was hired on his recommendation in 2001. : Lamboy said he attempted to take action against McMann after angry state officials notified the city that after five letters, 11 phone calls, and several meetings between November 2002 and March 2003, the city still wasn't in compliance with state regulations. In February, the city was notified that it was being fined $5,000 for failing to file the reports on five city owned-buildings. The city also faced an additional $2,000-a-day penalty, beginning March 1, for every day the reports were not submitted. : Jersey City Director of Health Joe Gestagna said he has hired several additional people to work with McMann to comply with the state's requirements. : Manzo contends that Jersey City is being unjustly penalized by the state because the fines were levied against the municipality even though officials in Trenton knew the city had no program in place to comply with the "Right To Know" mandate. : "I've talked to people over at the state Department of Health and they told me the fines will probably be dropped," Manzo said. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy is finished posted Message 6188 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 17:36:29 Subject: Healy is finished & should consider dropping out A sad campaign for a sad 3rd rate canidate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6189 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 17:38:50 Subject: Who the heck are you? Sadam the 2nd? : I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU LEAVE ALL THIS VIAL CRAP UP HERE ANTHONY. THIS BOARD IS WORTHLESS. If it ain't libelous or gross, people can say what they want here. I'll agree lots of posts ain't worth the electricity used to display them. But, that's for the reader to decide. More than once, something that seemed beyond belief turned out to be true! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth Teller posted Message 6190 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 17:43:36 Subject: Manso is gay and should have a sex change : A sad excuse for a 3rd rate canidate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GIVE ME A BREAK posted Message 6191 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 17:50:09 Subject: Re: Who the heck are you? Sadam the 2nd? I thought the purpose of this board was to get issues out there for people to talk about. I thought the purpose of this board was to be a cyber "coffee shop" where people could blast eachother on the basis of their views and records....not just call this one GAY and that one a DRUNK and the other one a CONVICT. That is totally useless bullsh-t. When you delete some posts I see that talk about these people's sex habits, but leave this other vial crap up here...I wonder about your yardstick. Why is calling Healy a drunk ok...but calling Manzo a que-r not ok? Why is talking about Manzo's soon-to-be convict brother ok...but stuff about Jailbird Gerry is deleted? Why do you censor bullsh-t ...but not crap? Why do you censor que-er but not gay? What are your rules Anthony? Or do you make em up as you go along> ??? : : I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU LEAVE ALL THIS VIAL CRAP UP HERE ANTHONY. THIS BOARD IS WORTHLESS. : If it ain't libelous or gross, people can say what they want here. : I'll agree lots of posts ain't worth the electricity used to display them. But, that's for the reader to decide. More than once, something that seemed beyond belief turned out to be true! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6192 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 18:13:49 Subject: Stupidity is allowed. As far as that goes, Hudson County Politics actively encourages it! Stupidity is allowed. As far as that goes, Hudson County Politics actively encourages it! Anybody who posts using an actual name that is not their own should expect to see that message deleted. I don't care if you post that the Pope is Catholic. If you want to be sarcastic use a nickname or a first name. Crude, gross, and/or sexually graphic messages are erased. Anonymous accusations of a crime are verboten! You can say that someone is a shnook. You can't say that they stole a newspaper from the Garden State News! If you see a crying need to accuse someone of a crime, you must first give me the signed text in hardcopy. People can (and obviously do) post about all aspects of the personal lives of public figures. If the post goes into anatomical details, the message gets zapped! I gotta laugh though. First, y'er bellyachin' that I should heave the infant and the dirty water out the window. Now, y'er whinin' that a message here and a message there bit the dust! : I thought the purpose of this board was to get issues out there for people to talk about. I thought the purpose of this board was to be a cyber "coffee shop" where people could blast eachother on the basis of their views and records....not just call this one GAY and that one a DRUNK and the other one a CONVICT. That is totally useless bullsh-t. : When you delete some posts I see that talk about these people's sex habits, but leave this other vial crap up here...I wonder about your yardstick. Why is calling Healy a drunk ok...but calling Manzo a que-r not ok? Why is talking about Manzo's soon-to-be convict brother ok...but stuff about Jailbird Gerry is deleted? : Why do you censor bullsh-t ...but not crap? Why do you censor que-er but not gay? What are your rules Anthony? Or do you make em up as you go along> ??? : : : I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU LEAVE ALL THIS VIAL CRAP UP HERE ANTHONY. THIS BOARD IS WORTHLESS. : : If it ain't libelous or gross, people can say what they want here. : : I'll agree lots of posts ain't worth the electricity used to display them. But, that's for the reader to decide. More than once, something that seemed beyond belief turned out to be true! ***************** End Of Article ****************** RED FLYER posted Message 6193 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 18:16:43 Subject: MCann"t #1 CAN'T WIN COMMITTE SEAT #2 CAN'T WIN FREEHOLDER SEAT #3 CAN'T WORK IN CITY HALL 3 STRIKES YOU ARE OUT OF HERE!!!!! GO SEE CHIAPPONE NEXT YOU PATHETIC OUNCE OF A SLEEZE PS STILL STALKIN MY FRIEND IN D.C.? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 6194 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 20:19:47 Subject: The Pope isn't Catholic. He's Polish !!! Only us Italians are true Catholics !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Crabtree posted Message 6195 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 20:22:01 Subject: Hopefully .. Mr. Manzo can spell. Spell it again with me ... It's C A N D I D A T E. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 6196 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 20:25:52 Subject: I only drink .. Communion Wine. So I am drunk with the Holy Spirit !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6197 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 20:29:29 Subject: Don't you know the penalty .. for impersonating Satan ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** I have a bridge to sell you. posted Message 6198 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 20:43:24 Subject: If you believe that crap then : : FIRST OF ALL I HAVE TO SAY I LIVE IN THE HEIGHTS AND MY HEALY SIGNS HAVE BEEN TAKING DOWN THREE TIMES AS A MATTER OF FACT THE KID I CAUGHT WAS VERY AFRAID OF ME CALLING THE POLICE AND HE TOLD ME HE WAS BEING PAID $6.00 A SIGN BY MANZO CAMP! THATS HOW LOW THIS HAS GOTTEN SO REGARDLESS OF WHO DID WHAT I KNOW WHO MY VOTE IS GOING TO AND IT IS DEFINITELY NOT MANZO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** C'mon over! Healy pays $10 posted Message 6199 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 20:45:32 Subject: Whadda dam cheapskate! : : FIRST OF ALL I HAVE TO SAY I LIVE IN THE HEIGHTS AND MY HEALY SIGNS HAVE BEEN TAKING DOWN THREE TIMES AS A MATTER OF FACT THE KID I CAUGHT WAS VERY AFRAID OF ME CALLING THE POLICE AND HE TOLD ME HE WAS BEING PAID $6.00 A SIGN BY MANZO CAMP! THATS HOW LOW THIS HAS GOTTEN SO REGARDLESS OF WHO DID WHAT I KNOW WHO MY VOTE IS GOING TO AND IT IS DEFINITELY NOT MANZO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I aint gettin me no good job posted Message 6200 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 20:50:18 Subject: And the most important! #4.... : #1 CAN'T WIN COMMITTE SEAT #2 CAN'T WIN FREEHOLDER SEAT #3 CAN'T WORK IN CITY HALL 3 STRIKES YOU ARE OUT OF HERE!!!!! GO SEE CHIAPPONE NEXT YOU PATHETIC OUNCE OF A SLEEZE PS STILL STALKIN MY FRIEND IN D.C.? ***************** End Of Article ****************** healy4/me posted Message 6201 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 20:50:35 Subject: Re: Jimmy Dixon's home invasions :The Old Saying Those In CRACK Houses Should Not TORCH ROCK CC: GERRY,TOMMY,DANNY,BILLY HOPE YOU LOSERS GO TO REHAB ON NOV.3 GO HEALY!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** awwww posted Message 6202 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 20:53:26 Subject: Re: Manso is gay and should have a sex change : : And Healy is a sad excuse for a 3rd rate canidate that Lou laughs at. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAYE084 posted Message 6203 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 22:59:57 Subject: Re: Healy is gay I KNOW HE IS NOT GAY BUT TO BE TRUTHFULL I WOULDNT CARE IF HE WERE, HE IS GOING TO WIN BIG IN NOVEMBER. BUT WE DO KNOW LOUIE IS A QUEEN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAYEE posted Message 6204 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 23:06:47 Subject: Re: Charges being brought against him : HEALY KNEW NOTHING AND DID NOT PUT HIM UP TO IT GERRY MCCANN DID IT TO UPSET HEALY CAMPAIGN EVERYONE KNOWS MCCANN IS FINISHED IN JERSEY CITY HE SHOULD BE FIRED FROM THE JCIA FOR STEALING MONEY FROM THE PAYROLL. GO JERRY HEALY! DONT LIE DONT CHEAT DONT STEAL SOMEONE SHOULD TEACH MCCANN THEESE QUALITIES ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAYE posted Message 6205 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 23:16:50 Subject: Re: This order is solid as of now. NOT TRUE A NON PARTIAL POLL HAS A 3 WAY DEAD HEAT. MANZO-HEALY-SMITH-FLOOD WITH A UNDECIDED 44% WHICH OF 26% WITH THE QUESTIONS ASKED FAVOR HEALY IT WILL BE BETWEEN HEALY AND MANZO. THIS IS A TRUE POLL.LAST WEEK. ***************** End Of Article ****************** healynot4/me posted Message 6206 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 23:24:08 Subject: Re: Jimmy Dixon's home invasions : :The Old Saying Those In CRACK Houses Should Not TORCH ROCK CC: JIMMY,TOMMY,BUDDY,BILLY HOPE YOU LOSERS GO TO REHAB ON NOV.3 GO AWAY HEALY!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** illness when he is the one that posted Message 6207 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 21, 2004 at 23:26:01 Subject: Re: Gaughan says gay aint an : is gay ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 6208 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 00:35:59 Subject: Not very Nice Oh come on, that's not nice, can't we all get along? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 6209 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 00:39:25 Subject: Re: LOUIS MANZO Let's not forget his enviromental stand of not only papering the city with his signs on poles, but getting involved with his little friend's Enviromental no show job with the results of the City getting fined. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Satan's sista posted Message 6210 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 06:27:20 Subject: Remeber : Sergio Lamboys and others signatures is all over McManns paperwork. Great directors that cant direct but caves to any deal. BTW Sergio was Glenns friend and is currently Harveys shadow. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 6211 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 07:21:46 Subject: Menendez And Kenny say" Controling Jersey City is Easy"; Jersey City Politicians all have a price.Either Power Or money is there creed.Porky Pig & All Sides have it easy running Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood for Mayor posted Message 6212 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 07:43:44 Subject: Willie Flood - Ready for the Challenge! • Elected Member, Jersey City Board of Education (1974-Present) • Aide to Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham (2003-2004) • Elected Member, Jersey City Council (1990-1993) • Coordinator of Desegregation, Jersey City School District • Assistant Principal, Whitney M. Young Jr. School • Elementary School Teacher (1962-1978) • Clerk, Mt. Olive Baptist Church, Jersey City • Member, Jersey City Parents’ Council • Member, NAACP and Rainbow PUSH • Member, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Parade & Scholarship Committee • M.A. degree, Student Personnel Services/Guidance, Jersey City State College • B.S. degree, Elementary Education /Music, Alabama State College • Resident of Jersey City since 1962 • Wife of Phillip T. Flood; Mother of John Todd and Phillip II • “Parents of the Year” Award, State of New Jersey (2003) • Former Vice Chairperson of Hudson County Democratic Organization • Present Chairperson of Hudson County Reform Democratic Organization • Former Director of Hudson County Senior Affairs • Former Director of Hudson County Consumer Affairs • Co-coordinator for Jersey City Bill Clinton for President Committee • Elected Democratic Committee person for past 20 years On November 2, Vote to keep the legacy alive. For more information or to volunteer call: 201-433-8828 ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Switch posted Message 6213 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 07:49:40 Subject: Doria now wants Manzo Over Smith For Mayor of JC. What will happen Next Week. Who will Doria be with then? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Money Train posted Message 6214 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 08:10:24 Subject: Xanandu receives lots of federal money-Thanks Menendez Maybe we should call it the gravy train study.Porky Pig & Kay love Xanadu and the boys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Work Habits posted Message 6215 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 08:31:14 Subject: DeGise office workers ,still dont get to work on Time Jim Kennelly & Jodi are the biggest violators..Who is in charge of this crew.Is it the Chief of Staff?Hudson County Taxpayers are getting the short end of the stick.If you cant get to work on time.Find another No show job. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 6216 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 08:37:32 Subject: Re: Willie Flood - Ready for the Challenge! You forgot to mention racist Bigot ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Who? posted Message 6217 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 09:18:45 Subject: No one knows who Menendez is throughout the State Of NJ But we in Hudson County sure know about Porky Pig , Kay & Xanadu. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Give me a break posted Message 6218 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 09:31:39 Subject: Rules are Rules No whining or complaining going on Here Anthony...just trying to get a glance at your rulebook. I can master just about any game....if the rules are consistent. That's not the case here. Its all subjective and that's way I asked what YOUR rules were. Afterall...you control the delete button and therefore you are are KING on this board. : Stupidity is allowed. As far as that goes, Hudson County Politics actively encourages it! : Anybody who posts using an actual name that is not their own should expect to see that message deleted. I don't care if you post that the Pope is Catholic. If you want to be sarcastic use a nickname or a first name. : Crude, gross, and/or sexually graphic messages are erased. : Anonymous accusations of a crime are verboten! You can say that someone is a shnook. You can't say that they stole a newspaper from the Garden State News! If you see a crying need to accuse someone of a crime, you must first give me the signed text in hardcopy. : People can (and obviously do) post about all aspects of the personal lives of public figures. If the post goes into anatomical details, the message gets zapped! : I gotta laugh though. First, y'er bellyachin' that I should heave the infant and the dirty water out the window. Now, y'er whinin' that a message here and a message there bit the dust! : : I thought the purpose of this board was to get issues out there for people to talk about. I thought the purpose of this board was to be a cyber "coffee shop" where people could blast eachother on the basis of their views and records....not just call this one GAY and that one a DRUNK and the other one a CONVICT. That is totally useless bullsh-t. : : When you delete some posts I see that talk about these people's sex habits, but leave this other vial crap up here...I wonder about your yardstick. Why is calling Healy a drunk ok...but calling Manzo a que-r not ok? Why is talking about Manzo's soon-to-be convict brother ok...but stuff about Jailbird Gerry is deleted? : : Why do you censor bullsh-t ...but not crap? Why do you censor que-er but not gay? What are your rules Anthony? Or do you make em up as you go along> ??? : : : : I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU LEAVE ALL THIS VIAL CRAP UP HERE ANTHONY. THIS BOARD IS WORTHLESS. : : : If it ain't libelous or gross, people can say what they want here. : : : I'll agree lots of posts ain't worth the electricity used to display them. But, that's for the reader to decide. More than once, something that seemed beyond belief turned out to be true! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Buddy-gate posted Message 6219 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 09:38:56 Subject: Re: MCann"t Amazin with all the talk of good ole Gerry McCann, that there ain't a post to be found about his sidekick workin for the opposition. Good ole Buddy boy workin the other side of the street...and no one asks questions. Watchin politics in this town is like watchin a real-turf football game after a rainstorm. Everyone gets so muddy, you can't even read the jerseys anymore. And who is really on which team becomes just a matter of speculation. But then...its the paycheck these hired guns work for...not the candidates. : #1 CAN'T WIN COMMITTE SEAT #2 CAN'T WIN FREEHOLDER SEAT #3 CAN'T WORK IN CITY HALL 3 STRIKES YOU ARE OUT OF HERE!!!!! GO SEE CHIAPPONE NEXT YOU PATHETIC OUNCE OF A SLEEZE PS STILL STALKIN MY FRIEND IN D.C.? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Seeking Answers posted Message 6220 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 09:48:14 Subject: Why aren't charges being filed over R. Manzo Campaign? Why aren't charges being filed over Healy's putting R. Manzo on the ballot? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Too Bad posted Message 6221 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 09:54:38 Subject: Re: Why aren't charges being filed over R. Manzo Campaign? Quit your crying, there are no laws broken, nothing will be done. So Stop your whining! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Creep Patrol posted Message 6222 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:04:38 Subject: Which Campaign camp has the most creeps in it? Example-1-Manzo-McCann &James King-2-Healy--Dixon & Buddy D-3--Flood--Jackson & Cardwell-4-Smith--Arango & Gaita --5--Buonocore-All the JC cops. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get A life posted Message 6223 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:12:21 Subject: Re: Willie Flood - Ready for the Challenge! Whatever. How could you say that? Do you have proof? You name one racist scandal you witnessed. Let me hear this. Don't just post empty rhetoric. This Woman dosen't have a blemish on her record unlike the other candidates. : You forgot to mention racist Bigot ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6224 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:18:32 Subject: OH THE HUMANITY !!!! Are we now going to be subjected to Willie Flood's mug everytime we come here ??? Anthony, I know you need the money. But Willie Flood and the Real Deal on this site ? Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6225 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:22:43 Subject: Now now If coming to work on time (or at all) were a requirement in County government, think how unhappy the County workforce would be. We call it flex-time, Hudson County style. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter posted Message 6226 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:29:44 Subject: Re: OH THE HUMANITY !!!! That is a very beautiful woman if you ask me and she is doing the right thing. Running for Mayor is the right thing to do. We can't afford this City to go to a businessman who looks at this city as a "business opp, or a sniviling baby who dosen't know squat , or a drunk who gets naked. Come on. Even if she isn't the best candidate in your opinion I would take her over the rest of those A$$HOLES because at least I know she can't be bought by anybody. She has a clean record period. How many other candidates can say that? Every one of them has been involved in some sort of scandal. Not her though. Prove me wrong with FACTS not silly opinions!! : Are we now going to be subjected to Willie Flood's mug everytime we come here ??? : Anthony, I know you need the money. But Willie Flood and the Real Deal on this site ? : Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6227 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:35:55 Subject: KEEP THE PAYCHECKS ALIVE !!! Willie Flood continues her outstanding personal pursuit of no-show jobs and feeding at the public trough. Although Willie has to deal with the severe handicap of not having a brain in her head, she succeeds in finding enough feeble minded fools in her community that will continue to vote for her. Couple this with craven public officials who look to place a token african american woman in positions of no responsibilty, and Willie has reached the pinnacle. She can now proudly proclaim that she is Hudson County's 2004 Hack of the Year. KEEP THE PAYCHECKS ALIVE !!! Btw : What the hell is a Desegregation Coordinator ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let Down posted Message 6228 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:41:02 Subject: Sandy Cunningham is Scum How dare you go against the grain? You call yourself a Black woman but you are supporting a white man? Are you crazy or does Gene and Ron Bon have you on drugs? The very people who fought hard to get history made with our late great mayor you are going against them. You have NO excuse. You have betrayed your people and the people who loved Glenn. You have to realize that this is exactly what they want. Us to be split up so some idiot can slip up the middle. You are playing a part in pushing this city backwards. You need to wake up. People HATE you now. Support Willie. You say she is a friend. She was always with Glenn and she worked and fought hard with Glenn to get this City on track. Are yoiu jealous of her? Is that it? I challenge you to let the people hear your reasoning on these matters because you are killing us. Your own people. Come on Sandy you know Glenn wouldn't approve of the bull$hit you are doing. If you aren't going to help then go back to Essex County and do your bull$hit somewhere else. You DEFINITELY let the black community down! Oh yeah before I forget. Did you know that Ron bon had fliers made up a year Before your beloved husband died? He was ready for this and it looks like you are apart of it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let Down posted Message 6229 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:41:09 Subject: Sandy Cunningham is Scum How dare you go against the grain? You call yourself a Black woman but you are supporting a white man? Are you crazy or does Gene and Ron Bon have you on drugs? The very people who fought hard to get history made with our late great mayor you are going against them. You have NO excuse. You have betrayed your people and the people who loved Glenn. You have to realize that this is exactly what they want. Us to be split up so some idiot can slip up the middle. You are playing a part in pushing this city backwards. You need to wake up. People HATE you now. Support Willie. You say she is a friend. She was always with Glenn and she worked and fought hard with Glenn to get this City on track. Are yoiu jealous of her? Is that it? I challenge you to let the people hear your reasoning on these matters because you are killing us. Your own people. Come on Sandy you know Glenn wouldn't approve of the bull$hit you are doing. If you aren't going to help then go back to Essex County and do your bull$hit somewhere else. You DEFINITELY let the black community down! Oh yeah before I forget. Did you know that Ron bon had fliers made up a year Before your beloved husband died? He was ready for this and it looks like you are apart of it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let Down posted Message 6229 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:41:09 Subject: Sandy Cunningham is Scum How dare you go against the grain? You call yourself a Black woman but you are supporting a white man? Are you crazy or does Gene and Ron Bon have you on drugs? The very people who fought hard to get history made with our late great mayor you are going against them. You have NO excuse. You have betrayed your people and the people who loved Glenn. You have to realize that this is exactly what they want. Us to be split up so some idiot can slip up the middle. You are playing a part in pushing this city backwards. You need to wake up. People HATE you now. Support Willie. You say she is a friend. She was always with Glenn and she worked and fought hard with Glenn to get this City on track. Are yoiu jealous of her? Is that it? I challenge you to let the people hear your reasoning on these matters because you are killing us. Your own people. Come on Sandy you know Glenn wouldn't approve of the bull$hit you are doing. If you aren't going to help then go back to Essex County and do your bull$hit somewhere else. You DEFINITELY let the black community down! Oh yeah before I forget. Did you know that Ron bon had fliers made up a year Before your beloved husband died? He was ready for this and it looks like you are apart of it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Two Horse Race posted Message 6230 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:45:37 Subject: Manzo & Flood-Brains over Smiles One has a high IQ-The other has a smile.Who would you vote for? ***************** End Of Article ****************** One Horse Down posted Message 6231 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:50:49 Subject: Re: Manzo & Flood-Brains over Smiles One is an open book...the other has skeltons in HIS closet. Which would you vote for? : One has a high IQ-The other has a smile.Who would you vote for? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6232 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:54:35 Subject: All the pictures posted to date have been news items, not paid ads. If any of the candidates wish to advertise, I'll do my best to place their ad for the most exposure. (But, the policy by which I edit message WILL NOT change.) All the pictures posted to date have been news items, not paid ads. : Are we now going to be subjected to Willie Flood's mug everytime we come here ??? : Anthony, I know you need the money. But Willie Flood and the Real Deal on this site ? : Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Compare posted Message 6233 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:57:22 Subject: Willie Flood makes Harvey Smith look like a genius Talk about a air head.She is it. Poor ward F .What choices they have. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Real posted Message 6234 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 10:57:27 Subject: Panzo I am sick and tired of Louie Manzo sending letters to the JJ trying to defend anyone who has a problem. It's obvious that you are just fishing for votes by trying to get on their side. We the people know that you are a business man who really dosen't care but are acting like you do. We aren't stupid. We see through the smokescreen. Ralph Green? The artists? Be real if you weren't running for mayor you wouldn't give a damn about these people. Stop treating us like we are stupid. You are exploiting people against their will. Stop it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Real Talk posted Message 6235 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 11:00:17 Subject: Re: Willie Flood makes Harvey Smith look like a genius You keep calling her an airhead do you have a reason? Give some facts!! : Talk about a air head.She is it. Poor ward F .What choices they have. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Real Talk posted Message 6236 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 11:02:42 Subject: Re: Willie Flood makes Harvey Smith look like a genius Oh yeah how can you even compare that idiot to Mrs. Flood he's not even qualified to take out her garbage. : You keep calling her an airhead do you have a reason? Give some facts!! : : : Talk about a air head.She is it. Poor ward F .What choices they have. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chez Whitey posted Message 6237 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 11:04:24 Subject: Re: Manzo & Flood-Brains over Smiles I would vote for the open book. At least we know about her and I haven't seen one scandal in her whole career!! That's a fact. : One is an open book...the other has skeltons in HIS closet. Which would you vote for? : : One has a high IQ-The other has a smile.Who would you vote for? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chez Whitey posted Message 6238 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 11:08:06 Subject: Re: Sandy Cunningham is Scum Whoa! That's the truth. She is gonna help one of my white brothers slip in and ward F will never get another penny!! Can you spell waterfront? : How dare you go against the grain? You call yourself a Black woman but you are supporting a white man? Are you crazy or does Gene and Ron Bon have you on drugs? The very people who fought hard to get history made with our late great mayor you are going against them. You have NO excuse. You have betrayed your people and the people who loved Glenn. You have to realize that this is exactly what they want. Us to be split up so some idiot can slip up the middle. You are playing a part in pushing this city backwards. You need to wake up. People HATE you now. Support Willie. You say she is a friend. She was always with Glenn and she worked and fought hard with Glenn to get this City on track. Are yoiu jealous of her? Is that it? I challenge you to let the people hear your reasoning on these matters because you are killing us. Your own people. Come on Sandy you know Glenn wouldn't approve of the bull$hit you are doing. If you aren't going to help then go back to Essex County and do your bull$hit somewhere else. You DEFINITELY let the black community down! Oh yeah before I forget. Did you know that Ron bon had fliers made up a year Before your beloved husband died? He was ready for this and it looks like you are apart of it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 6239 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 11:11:24 Subject: Re: WAKE UP JERSEY CITY!!! See?! That's just how these crackers think about us!! They call us apes!! Sounds like the speeches we heard in Planet of the Apes part 3 (Return to Ward F)! ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise Must Go posted Message 6240 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 11:11:49 Subject: Contempt for the Taxpayers They spend their nights at the Astor Bar plotting campaign strategy for Healy. THey sober up around noon go in to the county for a few hours, and back to the Astor. They aren't the only ones doing it. Contractors who make contributions don't have to show either. : Jim Kennelly & Jodi are the biggest violators..Who is in charge of this crew.Is it the Chief of Staff?Hudson County Taxpayers are getting the short end of the stick.If you cant get to work on time.Find another No show job. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stop Bob M posted Message 6241 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 11:51:11 Subject: The guy with the meatball sandwich Whose buying lunch? : What will happen Next Week. Who will Doria be with then? ***************** End Of Article ****************** I want to hit that $hit posted Message 6242 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 11:53:24 Subject: Re: I'll have whatever you are smoking : : Ron Buonocore is making a deal for himself and his supporters by joining forces with L Harvey Smith. Buonocore knows that Looney Lou will be taking him to court to knock him off of the ballot. : : This has been the plan all along (arranged by Gene Drayton)to unite Sandy Cunningham & Smith along with the HCDO. It may be only a matter of time before Flood joins also. Why do you think Drayton has been getting paid without working ? L. Harvey Smith : : will crush all and become thge best mayor in the history of Jersey City ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another Brother posted Message 6243 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 12:03:32 Subject: Re: Sandy Cunningham is Scum Just another BROTHER acting like a whiteboyu trying to scare the locals. Sorry homeboy....that won't work. But a good try. Go cook up some of them there chitlins and cash your welfare check. : Whoa! That's the truth. She is gonna help one of my white brothers slip in and ward F will never get another penny!! Can you spell waterfront? : : How dare you go against the grain? You call yourself a Black woman but you are supporting a white man? Are you crazy or does Gene and Ron Bon have you on drugs? The very people who fought hard to get history made with our late great mayor you are going against them. You have NO excuse. You have betrayed your people and the people who loved Glenn. You have to realize that this is exactly what they want. Us to be split up so some idiot can slip up the middle. You are playing a part in pushing this city backwards. You need to wake up. People HATE you now. Support Willie. You say she is a friend. She was always with Glenn and she worked and fought hard with Glenn to get this City on track. Are yoiu jealous of her? Is that it? I challenge you to let the people hear your reasoning on these matters because you are killing us. Your own people. Come on Sandy you know Glenn wouldn't approve of the bull$hit you are doing. If you aren't going to help then go back to Essex County and do your bull$hit somewhere else. You DEFINITELY let the black community down! Oh yeah before I forget. Did you know that Ron bon had fliers made up a year Before your beloved husband died? He was ready for this and it looks like you are apart of it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chez Whitey posted Message 6244 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 12:12:17 Subject: Re: Sandy Cunningham is Scum I am 2nd generation Irish. Believe me I am WHITE!!! With a red neck. And proud of it too. I'm not an undercover brotha!! Iight?Homey? : Just another BROTHER acting like a whiteboyu trying to scare the locals. Sorry homeboy....that won't work. But a good try. Go cook up some of them there chitlins and cash your welfare check. : : Whoa! That's the truth. She is gonna help one of my white brothers slip in and ward F will never get another penny!! Can you spell waterfront? : : : : How dare you go against the grain? You call yourself a Black woman but you are supporting a white man? Are you crazy or does Gene and Ron Bon have you on drugs? The very people who fought hard to get history made with our late great mayor you are going against them. You have NO excuse. You have betrayed your people and the people who loved Glenn. You have to realize that this is exactly what they want. Us to be split up so some idiot can slip up the middle. You are playing a part in pushing this city backwards. You need to wake up. People HATE you now. Support Willie. You say she is a friend. She was always with Glenn and she worked and fought hard with Glenn to get this City on track. Are yoiu jealous of her? Is that it? I challenge you to let the people hear your reasoning on these matters because you are killing us. Your own people. Come on Sandy you know Glenn wouldn't approve of the bull$hit you are doing. If you aren't going to help then go back to Essex County and do your bull$hit somewhere else. You DEFINITELY let the black community down! Oh yeah before I forget. Did you know that Ron bon had fliers made up a year Before your beloved husband died? He was ready for this and it looks like you are apart of it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 6245 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 12:14:18 Subject: Re: Sandy Cunningham is Scum I have to agree with the white boy. She did sell us out. : I am 2nd generation Irish. Believe me I am WHITE!!! With a red neck. And proud of it too. I'm not an undercover brotha!! Iight?Homey? : : Just another BROTHER acting like a whiteboyu trying to scare the locals. Sorry homeboy....that won't work. But a good try. Go cook up some of them there chitlins and cash your welfare check. : : : Whoa! That's the truth. She is gonna help one of my white brothers slip in and ward F will never get another penny!! Can you spell waterfront? : : : : : : How dare you go against the grain? You call yourself a Black woman but you are supporting a white man? Are you crazy or does Gene and Ron Bon have you on drugs? The very people who fought hard to get history made with our late great mayor you are going against them. You have NO excuse. You have betrayed your people and the people who loved Glenn. You have to realize that this is exactly what they want. Us to be split up so some idiot can slip up the middle. You are playing a part in pushing this city backwards. You need to wake up. People HATE you now. Support Willie. You say she is a friend. She was always with Glenn and she worked and fought hard with Glenn to get this City on track. Are yoiu jealous of her? Is that it? I challenge you to let the people hear your reasoning on these matters because you are killing us. Your own people. Come on Sandy you know Glenn wouldn't approve of the bull$hit you are doing. If you aren't going to help then go back to Essex County and do your bull$hit somewhere else. You DEFINITELY let the black community down! Oh yeah before I forget. Did you know that Ron bon had fliers made up a year Before your beloved husband died? He was ready for this and it looks like you are apart of it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 6245 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 12:14:22 Subject: Re: Sandy Cunningham is Scum I have to agree with the white boy. She did sell us out. : I am 2nd generation Irish. Believe me I am WHITE!!! With a red neck. And proud of it too. I'm not an undercover brotha!! Iight?Homey? : : Just another BROTHER acting like a whiteboyu trying to scare the locals. Sorry homeboy....that won't work. But a good try. Go cook up some of them there chitlins and cash your welfare check. : : : Whoa! That's the truth. She is gonna help one of my white brothers slip in and ward F will never get another penny!! Can you spell waterfront? : : : : : : How dare you go against the grain? You call yourself a Black woman but you are supporting a white man? Are you crazy or does Gene and Ron Bon have you on drugs? The very people who fought hard to get history made with our late great mayor you are going against them. You have NO excuse. You have betrayed your people and the people who loved Glenn. You have to realize that this is exactly what they want. Us to be split up so some idiot can slip up the middle. You are playing a part in pushing this city backwards. You need to wake up. People HATE you now. Support Willie. You say she is a friend. She was always with Glenn and she worked and fought hard with Glenn to get this City on track. Are yoiu jealous of her? Is that it? I challenge you to let the people hear your reasoning on these matters because you are killing us. Your own people. Come on Sandy you know Glenn wouldn't approve of the bull$hit you are doing. If you aren't going to help then go back to Essex County and do your bull$hit somewhere else. You DEFINITELY let the black community down! Oh yeah before I forget. Did you know that Ron bon had fliers made up a year Before your beloved husband died? He was ready for this and it looks like you are apart of it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Real Talk posted Message 6246 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 12:46:23 Subject: Give Facts If you are gonna make accusations about Mrs Flood I suggest that you incorporate some facts with your rhetoric. Not just opinions. I want some hard evidence. These people say all these things and dont have proof to back it up. If she is an airhead prove it. If she smiles alot prove it, if she is a racist prove it, if she is a man prove it. Prove it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6247 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 13:11:30 Subject: Facts Her resume says Parent of the Year. How could that be the way her two sons turned out ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** James Kennelly posted Message 6248 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 13:31:16 Subject: Re: DeGise office workers ,still dont get to work on Time Hi-- Just in case not responding to yet another anonymous smear somehow makes someone believe it, I'll take a minute of the taxpayers time to let you know my schedule is 10-6 because that mirrors the press calls I get. That I often eat at my desk and am expected to work after those hours and on weekends if necessary. I don't have anything to do with the strategy of the Healy campaign. No one would listen to me. And I wouldn't expect them to. What is depressing about this post is that the gutless anonymous poster is rumored to be a DeGise "Supporter" in his own unique way. Save the back stabbing pal. : Jim Kennelly & Jodi are the biggest violators..Who is in charge of this crew.Is it the Chief of Staff?Hudson County Taxpayers are getting the short end of the stick.If you cant get to work on time.Find another No show job. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise Must Go posted Message 6249 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 14:29:39 Subject: Flex DeGise's Head DeGise will soon have alot of flex time. Let's see if his fat cat consultants take him out to play golf after he's gone. : If coming to work on time (or at all) were a requirement in County government, think how unhappy the County workforce would be. : We call it flex-time, Hudson County style. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil FLood,Jr posted Message 6250 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 15:41:40 Subject: Re: Facts Please leave my brothers out of these posts and out of your mouths.They have nothing to do with this. Having your political views are one thing but slandering my dead brother is just low. I pity you. But you know what? This is just gonna make me work harder to get my mother elected. Thanks for the motivation. Being that you are so disrespectful this will be my last post. I'll be gone till November. : Her resume says Parent of the Year. : How could that be the way her two sons turned out ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** you tip my canoe and I'll tip yours too posted Message 6251 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 15:43:40 Subject: That Degise don't float Hey, Tom how many in north hudson has been promised Christmas in November for helping you and your chief thief install a flunky in city hall. Menendez made some mistake picking you out of he garbage to have you turn on him. But that's no different that what you has pulled with Schundler whose fault it is that the people of Jersey CIty now have to deal with the puckered face Tom Degise. Some laugh that Schundler is supposed to get permits from your to organize in Jersey City like you is the new Al Capone. But no matters right as long as you and your click get to leach blood out of the city as you auction off to the highest bidder what the people rightfully own. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CreepyPatrol posted Message 6252 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 16:01:17 Subject: Re: Which Campaign camp has the most creeps in it? : Example-1-Manzo-McCann &James King-2-Healy--Dixon & Buddy & DeGise & Gaughan D-3--Flood--Jackson & Cardwell-4-Smith--Arango & Gaita --5--Buonocore-All the JC cops who are little whiney girlie boys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Shoot the damn horse posted Message 6253 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 16:05:49 Subject: Re: Manzo & Flood-Brains over Smiles ::One wrote a book....the other cant read it. : One is an open book...the other has skeltons in HIS closet. Which would you vote for? : : One has a high IQ-The other has a smile.Who would you vote for? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6254 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 16:08:53 Subject: Bret Schundler and Alexander Garcia, Republican Candidate for Sheriff Bret Schundler and Alexander Garcia, Republican Candidate for Sheriff, at a recent event. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise is Disguisting posted Message 6255 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 17:06:36 Subject: And his corrupt organization i DeGise and his crew have no shame. DeGise makes the Godfather look like a cannonized saint. They have a particular contempt for the people he supposedly represents - the taxpayers in this county. He spends their money on his fat cat consultants like Jeff Perseley with total inpunity. Chris Christy don;t leave Hudson County just yet. But bring a fleet of dump trucks with you. It will take many loads to get the muck out of the County. : Hey, Tom how many in north hudson has been promised Christmas in November for helping you and your chief thief install a flunky in city hall. : Menendez made some mistake picking you out of he garbage to have you turn on him. But that's no different that what you has pulled with Schundler whose fault it is that the people of Jersey CIty now have to deal with the puckered face Tom Degise. Some laugh that Schundler is supposed to get permits from your to organize in Jersey City like you is the new Al Capone. : But no matters right as long as you and your click get to leach blood out of the city as you auction off to the highest bidder what the people rightfully own. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stop Bob M posted Message 6256 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 17:11:00 Subject: It will be good when their both gone1 How sweet it will be when both of these stooges are long gone. Bob M can sell snow cones on Bergenline Avenue, Kenny can tend bar at the Astor. : Jersey City Politicians all have a price.Either Power Or money is there creed.Porky Pig & All Sides have it easy running Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy Dogs will be posted Message 6257 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 17:13:49 Subject: Kissing Lou's feet And groveling for jobs right before the election. What a low life bunch. : 1300 +SRO at his 1st fundraiser. 350k RAISED : THE WINNER WILL BE "LANDSLIDE" LOU MANZO ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou is Happy not Gay posted Message 6258 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 17:16:46 Subject: That Healy is a Drunk Because Lou is out there everyday campaigning, meeting people, gaining support, while Healy can't even see the door neer mind get out there and campaign for himself. : : : And Healy is a sad excuse for a 3rd rate canidate that Lou laughs at. ***************** End Of Article ****************** With Six Bucks posted Message 6259 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 17:20:25 Subject: You can Buy A six pack Right on! with $6 you can buy Jerry a six pack! He can use a few pops after he's out there campaigning all day long, 24 x 7 x 365! Its about time a drunk occupied the mayor's office, about time!!! : : : FIRST OF ALL I HAVE TO SAY I LIVE IN THE HEIGHTS AND MY HEALY SIGNS HAVE BEEN TAKING DOWN THREE TIMES AS A MATTER OF FACT THE KID I CAUGHT WAS VERY AFRAID OF ME CALLING THE POLICE AND HE TOLD ME HE WAS BEING PAID $6.00 A SIGN BY MANZO CAMP! THATS HOW LOW THIS HAS GOTTEN SO REGARDLESS OF WHO DID WHAT I KNOW WHO MY VOTE IS GOING TO AND IT IS DEFINITELY NOT MANZO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wrong Again posted Message 6260 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 17:59:02 Subject: Re: Stupidity is allowed. Actually Anothny...to be accurate...there was no bellyachin' that you should heave the infant and the dirty water out the window. That never happened. I do question your slant ...or should I say your "discretionary" deletion of posts. (Now, y'er whinin' that a message here and a message there bit the dust!) That isn't whinin....I call em the way I see em. And lately I see a slant. If libelous or gross are the only things verboten... then there is a load you shouldn't have deleted that's gone. : Stupidity is allowed. As far as that goes, Hudson County Politics actively encourages it! : Anybody who posts using an actual name that is not their own should expect to see that message deleted. I don't care if you post that the Pope is Catholic. If you want to be sarcastic use a nickname or a first name. : Crude, gross, and/or sexually graphic messages are erased. : Anonymous accusations of a crime are verboten! You can say that someone is a shnook. You can't say that they stole a newspaper from the Garden State News! If you see a crying need to accuse someone of a crime, you must first give me the signed text in hardcopy. : People can (and obviously do) post about all aspects of the personal lives of public figures. If the post goes into anatomical details, the message gets zapped! : I gotta laugh though. First, y'er bellyachin' that I should heave the infant and the dirty water out the window. Now, y'er whinin' that a message here and a message there bit the dust! : : I thought the purpose of this board was to get issues out there for people to talk about. I thought the purpose of this board was to be a cyber "coffee shop" where people could blast eachother on the basis of their views and records....not just call this one GAY and that one a DRUNK and the other one a CONVICT. That is totally useless bullsh-t. : : When you delete some posts I see that talk about these people's sex habits, but leave this other vial crap up here...I wonder about your yardstick. Why is calling Healy a drunk ok...but calling Manzo a que-r not ok? Why is talking about Manzo's soon-to-be convict brother ok...but stuff about Jailbird Gerry is deleted? : : Why do you censor bullsh-t ...but not crap? Why do you censor que-er but not gay? What are your rules Anthony? Or do you make em up as you go along> ??? : : : : I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU LEAVE ALL THIS VIAL CRAP UP HERE ANTHONY. THIS BOARD IS WORTHLESS. : : : If it ain't libelous or gross, people can say what they want here. : : : I'll agree lots of posts ain't worth the electricity used to display them. But, that's for the reader to decide. More than once, something that seemed beyond belief turned out to be true! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rock on Phil JR.... !!! posted Message 6261 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 18:02:50 Subject: Re: Facts You tell em Phil Jr... Your mom is a great lady. She probably won't win this race, but she's a good -hearted person and at the very least she deserves respect. And draggin your deceased brother into this vile forum is low...by anyone's standards. Anthony should delete any references that sully the good name of someone who isn't even here to defend himself. Now hit the streets and GIVE EM H-LL!!!! : Please leave my brothers out of these posts and out of your mouths.They have nothing to do with this. Having your political views are one thing but slandering my dead brother is just low. I pity you. But you know what? This is just gonna make me work harder to get my mother elected. Thanks for the motivation. Being that you are so disrespectful this will be my last post. I'll be gone till November. : : : Her resume says Parent of the Year. : : How could that be the way her two sons turned out ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** How Low can HE Go??? posted Message 6262 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 18:04:46 Subject: Re: Panzo Does this surprise you??? This is little Louie's last chance. : I am sick and tired of Louie Manzo sending letters to the JJ trying to defend anyone who has a problem. It's obvious that you are just fishing for votes by trying to get on their side. We the people know that you are a business man who really dosen't care but are acting like you do. We aren't stupid. We see through the smokescreen. Ralph Green? The artists? Be real if you weren't running for mayor you wouldn't give a damn about these people. Stop treating us like we are stupid. You are exploiting people against their will. Stop it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6263 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 20:37:58 Subject: Not too many posts have been deleted over the past week, or so. I can't figger what you mean that a load of posts went poof that should still be amongst the wheezin', as over the last week or so not too many got the ax. Most that did were posted under a real person's name. Trying to put words in somebody else's mouth is a goofball that I pull the plug on muy pronto. There was one anonymous missive that went by by about someone picking up streetwalkers. If you look through the board, everybody else is screamin' about my NOT deleting messages! I'm just wondering, have you looked in the back dated Pages? It's been getting a little hectic. Perhaps the messages that you think were deleted are just on another Page. : Actually Anothny...to be accurate...there was no bellyachin' that you should heave the infant and the dirty water out the window. That never happened. I do question your slant ...or should I say your "discretionary" deletion of posts. (Now, y'er whinin' that a message here and a message there bit the dust!) That isn't whinin....I call em the way I see em. And lately I see a slant. If libelous or gross are the only things verboten... then there is a load you shouldn't have deleted that's gone. : : Stupidity is allowed. As far as that goes, Hudson County Politics actively encourages it! : : Anybody who posts using an actual name that is not their own should expect to see that message deleted. I don't care if you post that the Pope is Catholic. If you want to be sarcastic use a nickname or a first name. : : Crude, gross, and/or sexually graphic messages are erased. : : Anonymous accusations of a crime are verboten! You can say that someone is a shnook. You can't say that they stole a newspaper from the Garden State News! If you see a crying need to accuse someone of a crime, you must first give me the signed text in hardcopy. : : People can (and obviously do) post about all aspects of the personal lives of public figures. If the post goes into anatomical details, the message gets zapped! : : I gotta laugh though. First, y'er bellyachin' that I should heave the infant and the dirty water out the window. Now, y'er whinin' that a message here and a message there bit the dust! : : : I thought the purpose of this board was to get issues out there for people to talk about. I thought the purpose of this board was to be a cyber "coffee shop" where people could blast eachother on the basis of their views and records....not just call this one GAY and that one a DRUNK and the other one a CONVICT. That is totally useless bullsh-t. : : : When you delete some posts I see that talk about these people's sex habits, but leave this other vial crap up here...I wonder about your yardstick. Why is calling Healy a drunk ok...but calling Manzo a que-r not ok? Why is talking about Manzo's soon-to-be convict brother ok...but stuff about Jailbird Gerry is deleted? : : : Why do you censor bullsh-t ...but not crap? Why do you censor que-er but not gay? What are your rules Anthony? Or do you make em up as you go along> ??? : : : : : I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU LEAVE ALL THIS VIAL CRAP UP HERE ANTHONY. THIS BOARD IS WORTHLESS. : : : : If it ain't libelous or gross, people can say what they want here. : : : : I'll agree lots of posts ain't worth the electricity used to display them. But, that's for the reader to decide. More than once, something that seemed beyond belief turned out to be true! ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 6264 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 21:01:05 Subject: Manzo Ward D ARE YOU THAT DUMB JUST DROVE BY THERE BUNNCH OF LOSERS HANGING OUT WITH 40 OZ IN ONE HAND OTHER HAND OUT FOR CASH POINT BEING; EMPTY LOTS,EMPTY BLDGS.WILL NEVER VOTE THIS ELECTION CC:JAVIA INCLIN ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY/4MAYOR posted Message 6265 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 21:23:45 Subject: 350 MORGAN HEY GERRY LOUIE AND YOU TOO FREDA PACK UP LOCK'S BEING CHANGED 10/1/04 WORD HAS IT BOB CUTTING DEAL GONNA BE TOUGH SCREENING SIGNS AT GERRY'S HOUSE HAMILTON PARK LOOK'S GOOD THOUGH CC; RON BON. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RED FLYER posted Message 6266 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 21:58:17 Subject: Re: Panzo : Does this surprise you??? This is little Louie's last chance. : : : THANK GOD LOUIE MANZO IS GONE 11/2/04 8:01 PM ***************** End Of Article ****************** JimiD posted Message 6267 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 22:15:38 Subject: Re: Manzo Ward D : AM I THAT DUMB JUST DROVE BY AT ABOUT 9 AND THERE WERE A BUNCH OF NEIGHBORHOOD LOSERS SITTING ON THE STEPS OF THE MANZO CLUB WITH THEIR 40OZ BEERS. THEY WOULDNT GIVE ME A DRINK. DONT YOU KNOW WHO I AM! DONT YOU KNOW WHO MY FATHERINLAW IS! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ONCE A JOIK ALWAYS A JOIK posted Message 6268 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 22:18:47 Subject: Re: OAKLAND AVE AND CENTRAL AVE : HEY JERRY BUDDY BILL AND YOU TOO JIMMY PACK UP LOCK'S BEING CHANGED 10/1/04 CC; CHRIS CHRISTIE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jaye posted Message 6269 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 22:48:18 Subject: Re: Why aren't charges being filed over R. Manzo Campaign? : \because he didnt do it a$$hole. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 6270 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 22, 2004 at 23:37:12 Subject: Phil Junior Phil.. sometimes the truth hurts.... And the quote I believe was "two sons"...... ***************** End Of Article ****************** jaye posted Message 6271 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2004 at 01:09:22 Subject: HEALY GETTING STRONGER JERRY HEALYS CAMPAIGN IS PICKING UP STEAM WITH THE ENDORSMENT OF VIRTUALLY EVERY HISPANIC LEADER IN THE CITY. HE ALSO HAS SOME OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY READY TO ENDORSE HIM. CHURCH LEADERS ETC: THE FOLLOWING CANDIDATES WILL DROP OUT AND ENDORSE HEALY . JAMES CARROLL IN THE HEIGHTS. AND THAT WILL SEW UP WARD D FOR HIM A TREMENDOUS PLUS FOR JERRYS STRONGHOLD. NEXT WILL BE STEVE LIPSKI WARD C COUNCILMAN. HE WILL NEGATE JIMMY KING AND A FEW OF HIS CRONIES ALMOST ALL HIS CLUB MEMBERS WITH HEALY NOW, MORE COMING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.MANZO WORKERS ARE RUNNING SCARED TEARING DOWN HEALY SIGNS AND PUTTING SIGNS ON HOMES WITHOUT PERMISSION AND LOSING VOTERS BY DOING THAT.SIGN ON METAL POLES UPSETTING LOCAL MERCHANTS AND RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, JCIA SPENT A LOT OF MONEY GETTING THEM DOWN AND MAKING THE CITY CLEANER LOOKING. LOUIE IS LITTERING OUR CITY ONCE AGAIN. THE FINAL BOMB IN HIS TRY FOR MAYOR IS GOING TO BE THE DROP OUT OF WILLY FLOOD AND HER ENDORSEMENT OF HEALY WHO BOTH HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER A LADY AND A GENTLEMAN BOTH. AND WHEN THE FIRST DEBATE OCCURS MANZO WILL HAVE ALL HIS CRIMINAL FRIENDS AND HIS NUMBER ONE CONVICTED FELON GERRY MCCANN WHO WAS CONVICTED OF 32 FELONY COUNTS FROM THEFT MAIL FRAUD TAX EVASION AND SO ON,TO MANY TO MENTION. AND HIS REWARD FOR THAT WAS TO BE APPOINTED AS MANZO CHIEF OF STAFF IN TRENTON. SO WHEN YOU THINK OF IT LOU MANZO EARNED HIS NICNAME (SCREWY LOUIE) JUST FOR THAT.SO ALL THE POST IN THIS FORUM CANT CHANGE THE TRUTH IN THIS ONE. ALL ARE FACTS. OH!ONE MORE HOW ABOUT HIS INFLUENCE IN HIRING A CITY WORKER WHO COST THE CITY $105,000 IN FINES AND DEFENDS HIM.ALSO GERRY MCCANNS NO SHOW JOB AT THE JCIA AND THE RE-HIRING OF ALL THE DRUG ADDICTS WHO WERE FIRED FOR FAILING THE DRUG TEST . SO HOW CAN ANYONE VOTE FOR A CANDIDATE LIKE MANZO. AND CAN YOU BELIEVE WE HAVE A 2 TIME EX MAYOR (MCCANN)TEARING DOWN SIGNS FROM RESIDENTS HOMES . HAS HE NO SHAME.SURRENDER GERRY IT IS YOU AND MANZOS LAST HURRAH! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAYE posted Message 6272 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2004 at 01:15:23 Subject: Re: And his corrupt organization i : I THINK YOU HAVE TOM MIXED UP WITH LOU MANZO HE HAS ALL THE FELONS WITH HIM HIS CHIEF OF STAFF MCCANNA FELON AND EX CONVICT WHO SERVED TIME IN A FEDERAL PEN. AND NOW BROTHER RONNIE . SO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT TOMDEGISE IS AN HONEST GUY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAYE posted Message 6273 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2004 at 01:17:24 Subject: WILLY WILL DROP OUT AND GO HEALY WILLY FLOOD WILL DROP OUT IN THE END AND ENDORSE JERRY HEALY . ***************** End Of Article ****************** WHO HASNT BEEN CAUGHT YET posted Message 6274 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2004 at 06:51:55 Subject: TOMDEGISE IS AN HONEST GUY : : I THINK YOU HAVE TOM MIXED UP WITH LOU MANZO HE HAS ALL THE FELONS WITH HIM HIS CHIEF OF STAFF MCCANNA FELON AND EX CONVICT : WHO SERVED TIME IN A FEDERAL PEN. : AND NOW BROTHER RONNIE . SO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT : TOMDEGISE IS AN HONEST GUY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 6275 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2004 at 06:56:02 Subject: MENENDEZ NOW GOING ALL OUT FOR MANZO Its all about the polls.Porky Pig cant pick anymore losers or he is out too> ***************** End Of Article ****************** History posted Message 6276 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 23, 2004 at 07:16:43 Subject: Gaughan said YOU PEOPLE ARE GRASPING AT STRAWS... and its hilarious to watch you sink. : : Healy hits anew low! : : : : First he tries to get a 25-year-old punk kid Raymond Manzo to run for mayor so he can mislead the voters. Now he has put up a billboard on Danforth Ave saying "Kerry for president/Healy for mayor". When did Kerry endorse you? : : Healy for someone running under the slogan "honest democrat" your trying really hard to deceive the voters! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Eye in the Sky posted Message 6402 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 09:45:09 Subject: Manzo's Mafia Manzo's people come here blasting Healy for everything except what he decide to have for breakfast. They come here blasting him for putting up a billboard encouraging people to vote for John Kerry for President and Healy for Mayor. Maybe Healy wouldn't have had to buy Billboard Space (which obviously frustrates Manzo) if McCann didn't spend his nights running around tearing down Healy for Mayor signs. Manzo plays dirty, and then cries when Healy finds a way to get his message out there anyway. Manzo digs up yesterday's political corpses to run his campaign, and then has the nerve to call Healy "captive" of the machine. Manzo has not talked about one single new idea, and all he does is go around calling Jerry Healy a drunk. Manzo has run a lousy campaign and if he will run our city the same way....he DOESN"T DESERVE TO BE MAYOR. Clean up your act Lou, and maybe I'll vote for you. But if the election were today, I would get ILL...pulling a lever for Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Teacher posted Message 6403 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:17:49 Subject: Is it true Dolan Flunked 3rd grade again? : You can't spell your own last name ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Teacher posted Message 6404 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:18:44 Subject: Is it true Dolan is a Racist Ignorant Slob? : I wish him all the best. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ron4Mayor posted Message 6405 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:19:10 Subject: Re: Manzo's Mafia That was a great post!! Right on the money! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Teacher's Helper... posted Message 6406 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:19:35 Subject: Is it True Dolan escaped fror Meadowview? : : Willie is one hell of a guy! : : : : Flood is a very good person and was a good teacher I want to know who this young kid is running around with her.who ever he is he is on point with everything great choice willie he is a keeper and he is cute to I didnt think they made them like that anymore........ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ron4Mayor posted Message 6407 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:21:34 Subject: Re: Smith for Mayor Poll Results This is not true because Harvey cannot read. : A source in the Smith camp reported these statistics from a recent survey: : Mayor L. Harvey Smith - 19% : Assemblyman Lou Manzo - 19% : Councilman Jerry Healy - 12% : Councilman Steve Lipski - 10% : Willie Flood - 5% : Ron Buonocore - 2% : Carroll - 1% ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watch your A$$ posted Message 6408 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:30:44 Subject: Re: Manzo's Mafia Funny how more than one board is flooded with pure $hit about Lou Manzo and almost nothing about Healy and his Taminy Hall drinking buddies/thugs. Now you put a sign up that makes it look like Kerry, a lying sack of liberal $hit, endorses Healy, a drunken sop. Keep lying & spinning if it makes you feel better you bunch of DICK heads. You can say Manzo has Mc Can but Healy has Gaughan, DICKson, DeGise and let's not forget, the man who learned at Mc Cans knee - Buddy Boy. The pot calls the kettle black - whadda joke A$$holes! : Manzo's people come here blasting Healy for everything except what he decide to have for breakfast. They come here blasting him for putting up a billboard encouraging people to vote for John Kerry for President and Healy for Mayor. Maybe Healy wouldn't have had to buy Billboard Space (which obviously frustrates Manzo) if McCann didn't spend his nights running around tearing down Healy for Mayor signs. : Manzo plays dirty, and then cries when Healy finds a way to get his message out there anyway. Manzo digs up yesterday's political corpses to run his campaign, and then has the nerve to call Healy "captive" of the machine. Manzo has not talked about one single new idea, and all he does is go around calling Jerry Healy a drunk. : Manzo has run a lousy campaign and if he will run our city the same way....he DOESN"T DESERVE TO BE MAYOR. Clean up your act Lou, and maybe I'll vote for you. But if the election were today, I would get ILL...pulling a lever for Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You guys are a joke posted Message 6409 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:35:02 Subject: Re: Jerry has no new ideas ... even about campaigning ::Healy doesnt have to say he is being endorsed by Kerry. The braindead dummies that make up that stellar team and those stupid enough not to be able to read and comprehend - a good thing for your side - will think that Kerry, a liberal, lying, treasonous sack of crap, is endorsing Healy. Now get off the computer Jimmy the beer is cold now. : Healy doesn't say he's being endorsed by Kerry. He just puts up a sign urging voters to vote Kerry and Vote Healy.. and you people find this too difficult to understand? This is what you take shots ast him for?> YOU PEOPLE ARE GRASPING AT STRAWS... and its hilarious to watch you sink. : : : Healy hits anew low! : : : : : : First he tries to get a 25-year-old punk kid Raymond Manzo to run for mayor so he can mislead the voters. Now he has put up a billboard on Danforth Ave saying "Kerry for president/Healy for mayor". When did Kerry endorse you? : : : Healy for someone running under the slogan "honest democrat" your trying really hard to deceive the voters! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Teachers Aide posted Message 6410 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:36:37 Subject: Re: Is it true Dolan Flunked 3rd grade again? ::::We spotted him the o,l,a,n; still couldnt do it. : : You can't spell your own last name ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sure is, his father in law and mealticket is Gaughan posted Message 6411 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:38:27 Subject: Re: Is it true Dolan is a Racist Ignorant Slob? : : I wish him all the best. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nah! They threw him out! Greystone looking for him though. posted Message 6412 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:39:46 Subject: Re: Is it True Dolan escaped fror Meadowview? : : : : Willie is one hell of a guy! : : : : : : Flood is a very good person and was a good teacher I want to know who this young kid is running around with her.who ever he is he is on point with everything great choice willie he is a keeper and he is cute to I didnt think they made them like that anymore........ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Your a hermit stupid. Hermits dont see no one, lie and are crazy posted Message 6413 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:42:02 Subject: Re: I saw him too....its ain't BS....McCann is doing the dirty deed : : : McCann is walking around the Western Slope harrassing people with a State Trooper Captain looking for Ron Buonocore. Explain how anyone in law enforcement can associate with this guy! Lou will soon be turning state witness and joining Boobby J at his hideout! People of Jersey City WAKE UP!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou's Losers posted Message 6414 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:43:11 Subject: Re: Manzo's Mafia Manzo's people have no response other than to throw mud AGAIN. No wonder the more that people learn about Lou...the less likely they are to vote for him. Lot's of baggage...a convict brother... a convict campaign manager... and we're supposed to trust this guy? Give me a break. : Funny how more than one board is flooded with pure $hit about Lou Manzo and almost nothing about Healy and his Taminy Hall drinking buddies/thugs. Now you put a sign up that makes it look like Kerry, a lying sack of liberal $hit, endorses Healy, a drunken sop. : Keep lying & spinning if it makes you feel better you bunch of DICK heads. You can say Manzo has Mc Can but Healy has Gaughan, DICKson, DeGise and let's not forget, the man who learned at Mc Cans knee - Buddy Boy. : The pot calls the kettle black - whadda joke A$$holes! : : Manzo's people come here blasting Healy for everything except what he decide to have for breakfast. They come here blasting him for putting up a billboard encouraging people to vote for John Kerry for President and Healy for Mayor. Maybe Healy wouldn't have had to buy Billboard Space (which obviously frustrates Manzo) if McCann didn't spend his nights running around tearing down Healy for Mayor signs. : : Manzo plays dirty, and then cries when Healy finds a way to get his message out there anyway. Manzo digs up yesterday's political corpses to run his campaign, and then has the nerve to call Healy "captive" of the machine. Manzo has not talked about one single new idea, and all he does is go around calling Jerry Healy a drunk. : : Manzo has run a lousy campaign and if he will run our city the same way....he DOESN"T DESERVE TO BE MAYOR. Clean up your act Lou, and maybe I'll vote for you. But if the election were today, I would get ILL...pulling a lever for Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** And Team Healy and will do it to save their lazy butts. posted Message 6415 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:43:53 Subject: Re: Don't think his feet is what Lou wants KISSED...lol : : Its going to be hilarious after Lou Manzo is elected Mayor. : : All of these Healy-Lipski-Bonocoure losers will be begging Lou for forgiveness. They know they are incompetent and not able to hold a legitimate job. THey have no marketable skills and not enough intelligent to know how to get it. Besides that their too lazy to even try. : : They better learn how to swim, the Hudson River gets cold in November. : : : : Its amazing how paranoid Healy and Lipskis camp has become. The closer we get to election day the more garbage Lipski and gentleman Healy throw up on this board. Do they really think people buy their garbage? : : : : We all know Manzo has a corrupt brother , Healy is a drunk and Lipski is a flip flopping snake : : : : We all know this is Healys last gasp and Lipskis first and last breath to hold on to a political life. And we all can see the fear in the eyes of their camps as they see their campaign going down the drain. : : : : What amazes me is that Lou graciously allows these losers to come to this board and slander him. : : : : What amazes me is that by Richies, of Lipskis camp, own admission they are so desperate that they spend their nights tearing down "Healy for Mayor" and "Manzo for Mayor" signs in a desparate attempt to have these two camps fight so Lipski can stay at least on life support. : : : : But then desperate men use desperate tactics. No surprise I suppose. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo Disrespects JC Voters AGAIN posted Message 6416 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 10:47:04 Subject: Manzo...going under for the forth time Manzo's people are so sure that people in Jersey City are a bunch of idiots that they are crying about a billboard. What a sign of desperation. And the funny part is that its a page right out of Gerry McCann's playbook that has them upset. Get a life Lou....and maybe a real campaign manager while you are at it. Imports from Florida....and Federal Book Camp... just don't cut it. : ::Healy doesnt have to say he is being endorsed by Kerry. The braindead dummies that make up that stellar team and those stupid enough not to be able to read and comprehend - a good thing for your side - will think that Kerry, a liberal, lying, treasonous sack of crap, is endorsing Healy. : Now get off the computer Jimmy the beer is cold now. : : Healy doesn't say he's being endorsed by Kerry. He just puts up a sign urging voters to vote Kerry and Vote Healy.. and you people find this too difficult to understand? This is what you take shots ast him for?> YOU PEOPLE ARE GRASPING AT STRAWS... and its hilarious to watch you sink. : : : : Healy hits anew low! : : : : : : : : First he tries to get a 25-year-old punk kid Raymond Manzo to run for mayor so he can mislead the voters. Now he has put up a billboard on Danforth Ave saying "Kerry for president/Healy for mayor". When did Kerry endorse you? : : : : Healy for someone running under the slogan "honest democrat" your trying really hard to deceive the voters! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Whatever posted Message 6417 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 11:27:37 Subject: Re: Message to Willie Flood Stick to the issues please. : ::Whoever is doing your posting for you puts you in a bad light, especially with your background as an educator. Typing, punctuation, spelling and grammar are horrible. The English language meets Ebonics. Just the way you want to come across. : Since many of the posts like this one, from young people to seniors, either your base is grossly uneducated or your staff is. : : All i have to say is Mrs Flood you go girl you look good and keep looking good. Willie came to my church looking like new money we need class in city hall You Go willie.... Where is that tacky looking Viola Richerson she should have a fun raise for her self. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy /DeGise are Losers! posted Message 6418 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 11:36:32 Subject: Lou is On Target You should read the newspapers about what Lou is doing. Like his letter to Harvey Smith to veto the Flintkote tax abatement that will cost JC taxpayers over $10 million! THis is the same tax abatement that Jerry Healy VOTED FOR! Get it! Healy wants to ripe off the taxpayers, Lou is fighting against it. Like the investigation requested the state to conduct over Mr. Green's firing at the county jail. Is DeGise afraid that the truth about his fat cat consultants who he gave a no bid contract to run the jail, JEFF PERSELEY will come to light? I can't wait till Janizewski will have to make room in his jail cell for all the other losers still at the county. oapublically : Manzo's people come here blasting Healy for everything except what he decide to have for breakfast. They come here blasting him for putting up a billboard encouraging people to vote for John Kerry for President and Healy for Mayor. Maybe Healy wouldn't have had to buy Billboard Space (which obviously frustrates Manzo) if McCann didn't spend his nights running around tearing down Healy for Mayor signs. : Manzo plays dirty, and then cries when Healy finds a way to get his message out there anyway. Manzo digs up yesterday's political corpses to run his campaign, and then has the nerve to call Healy "captive" of the machine. Manzo has not talked about one single new idea, and all he does is go around calling Jerry Healy a drunk. : Manzo has run a lousy campaign and if he will run our city the same way....he DOESN"T DESERVE TO BE MAYOR. Clean up your act Lou, and maybe I'll vote for you. But if the election were today, I would get ILL...pulling a lever for Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JimmyHoffa posted Message 6419 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 13:48:06 Subject: Is Jimmy King Hiding ????? Where is big mouth Jimmy King?? I hear he is playing second fiddle to many many people in Journal Square in MANZO CAMP?? Tom Curtis punked him off?? Is he scared, or is his so-called career in politics over?????? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6420 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 16:20:18 Subject: I hope Manzo isn't ... supporting Bush. If he is, there is no way I can support him. Bush has led this country into an unnecessary war in Iraq that has needlessly killed/wounded thousands of Americans. His fiscal policies have resulted in record deficits which will ultimately lead to less Federal aid for the State and for Jersey City. That will result in less police and higher property taxes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fernando posted Message 6421 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 16:28:10 Subject: You look marvelous !!! After all - -It's not how you feel - - Or whether you don't have a brain in your head - - It's how you look ! And, by-the-way, You look marvelous! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Because Healy/Gaughan/DeGise/Demeller/DICKson are soooooo perfect posted Message 6422 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 17:19:36 Subject: Re: Manzo's Mafia :::Oh, we dont like it when the mud we have been throwing is picked up and thrown back at you. Mommy, mommy the mean old Manzo people are picking on us. bwaahhhhhhhhhh : Manzo's people have no response other than to throw mud AGAIN. No wonder the more that people learn about Lou...the less likely they are to vote for him. Lot's of baggage...a convict brother... a convict campaign manager... and we're supposed to trust this guy? Give me a break. : : Funny how more than one board is flooded with pure $hit about Lou Manzo and almost nothing about Healy and his Taminy Hall drinking buddies/thugs. Now you put a sign up that makes it look like Kerry, a lying sack of liberal $hit, endorses Healy, a drunken sop. : : Keep lying & spinning if it makes you feel better you bunch of DICK heads. You can say Manzo has Mc Can but Healy has Gaughan, DICKson, DeGise and let's not forget, the man who learned at Mc Cans knee - Buddy Boy. : : The pot calls the kettle black - whadda joke A$$holes! : : : Manzo's people come here blasting Healy for everything except what he decide to have for breakfast. They come here blasting him for putting up a billboard encouraging people to vote for John Kerry for President and Healy for Mayor. Maybe Healy wouldn't have had to buy Billboard Space (which obviously frustrates Manzo) if McCann didn't spend his nights running around tearing down Healy for Mayor signs. : : : Manzo plays dirty, and then cries when Healy finds a way to get his message out there anyway. Manzo digs up yesterday's political corpses to run his campaign, and then has the nerve to call Healy "captive" of the machine. Manzo has not talked about one single new idea, and all he does is go around calling Jerry Healy a drunk. : : : Manzo has run a lousy campaign and if he will run our city the same way....he DOESN"T DESERVE TO BE MAYOR. Clean up your act Lou, and maybe I'll vote for you. But if the election were today, I would get ILL...pulling a lever for Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Do you want it in Ebonics posted Message 6423 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 17:22:44 Subject: Re: Message to Willie Flood :::YO BRO THE MOFO'S LIKE JIVE SCRIBE IZ A BOOGER HEAD THAT AINT GOT NO CENTS NUF TO MAIK DA POSTS LOOKZ LIKEZ DA FOM DIFFRENT BROTHAS AND SISTAS. You understand that? : Stick to the issues please. : : ::Whoever is doing your posting for you puts you in a bad light, especially with your background as an educator. Typing, punctuation, spelling and grammar are horrible. The English language meets Ebonics. Just the way you want to come across. : : Since many of the posts like this one, from young people to seniors, either your base is grossly uneducated or your staff is. : : : All i have to say is Mrs Flood you go girl you look good and keep looking good. Willie came to my church looking like new money we need class in city hall You Go willie.... Where is that tacky looking Viola Richerson she should have a fun raise for her self. ***************** End Of Article ****************** the table for getting into this mess posted Message 6424 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 17:28:11 Subject: Re: Healy...drinking himself under : Healy's people are so sure that people in Jersey City are a bunch of idiots that they put up a billboard. What a sign of desperation. And the funny part is that its a page right out of Gerry McCann's playbook that has them upset cause everyone figured it out : Get a life Jerry ....and maybe a real campaign manager while you are at it. Imports from a funeral home who lives in Wall....a foul mouthed drunk who drives around in county vehicles on a suspended license....and Federal Book Camps protege.. just don't cut it. : : ::Healy doesnt have to say he is being endorsed by Kerry. The braindead dummies that make up that stellar team and those stupid enough not to be able to read and comprehend - a good thing for your side - will think that Kerry, a liberal, lying, treasonous sack of crap, is endorsing Healy. : : Now get off the computer Jimmy the beer is cold now. : : : Healy doesn't say he's being endorsed by Kerry. He just puts up a sign urging voters to vote Kerry and Vote Healy.. and you people find this too difficult to understand? This is what you take shots ast him for?> YOU PEOPLE ARE GRASPING AT STRAWS... and its hilarious to watch you sink. : : : : : Healy hits anew low! : : : : : : : : : : First he tries to get a 25-year-old punk kid Raymond Manzo to run for mayor so he can mislead the voters. Now he has put up a billboard on Danforth Ave saying "Kerry for president/Healy for mayor". When did Kerry endorse you? : : : : : Healy for someone running under the slogan "honest democrat" your trying really hard to deceive the voters! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sure is....In plain sight posted Message 6425 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 17:31:45 Subject: Re: Is Jimmy DICKson Hiding ????? : Where is big mouth Jimmy DICKson??\ : I hear he is playing second fiddle to his father in law the chief of staph. He has to or he will find himself not being able to drive county vehicles on a suspended license and sleeping on benches again : Is he scared, or is his so-called career in politics over?????? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6426 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 18:22:09 Subject: Who is Healy supporting in the 31st Senate Race? Who is Healy supporting in the 31st Senate Race? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ebonics posted Message 6427 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 18:22:41 Subject: What was spoke was a lot different All ah' have t'say be Mrs Flood ya' go goat ya' look baaaad and keep lookin' baaaad. Willie came t'my church lookin' likes new bre'd we need class in city hall You's Go willie.... Where be dat tacky lookin' Viola Richerson she should gots some fun raise fo' ha' self. All i have to say is Mrs Flood you go girl you look good and keep looking good. Willie came to my church looking like new money we need class in city hall You Go willie.... Where is that tacky looking Viola Richerson she should have a fun raise for her self. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Questionmeister posted Message 6428 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 18:26:07 Subject: No the real questions is: : Who is Healy supporting in the 31st Senate Race? The real question is who is supporting Healy in 31? ***************** End Of Article ****************** I was having dinner posted Message 6429 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 19:23:38 Subject: Damn youre good I would have asked but : : Who is Healy supporting in the 31st Senate Race? : : The real question is who is supporting Healy in 31? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6430 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 19:50:23 Subject: And what's this about Gaughan and Menendez? A few days ago, I ran into some guy on Summit Avenue who was chewing my ear off about the many reasons why he thought everybody ought to get behind Healy. Almost like a revival meeting preacher, he worked himself up into a frenzy and as sorta a high note shouted, "Gaughan is the only one who can protect Jersey City from Menendez." I asked him to elaborate on that. All I gots back was that he knew what he was talking about, but wouldn't say no more. : : Who is Healy supporting in the 31st Senate Race? : : The real question is who is supporting Healy in 31? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 6431 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 20:15:03 Subject: Re: And what's this about Gaughan and Menendez? ::Hey pardner, were y'all sure ya were talkin' to a guy? Coulda been Jimmy Dickson. He's the one needin' savin'. *HIC* : A few days ago, I ran into some guy on Summit Avenue who was chewing my ear off about the many reasons why he thought everybody ought to get behind Healy. Almost like a revival meeting preacher, he worked himself up into a frenzy and as sorta a high note shouted, "Gaughan is the only one who can protect Jersey City from Menendez." I asked him to elaborate on that. All I gots back was that he knew what he was talking about, but wouldn't say no more. : : : Who is Healy supporting in the 31st Senate Race? : : : : The real question is who is supporting Healy in 31? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6432 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 21:53:13 Subject: Nah, this one can't be pinned on JD. : ::Hey pardner, were y'all sure ya were talkin' to a guy? Coulda been Jimmy Dickson. He's the one needin' savin'. : *HIC* : : A few days ago, I ran into some guy on Summit Avenue who was chewing my ear off about the many reasons why he thought everybody ought to get behind Healy. Almost like a revival meeting preacher, he worked himself up into a frenzy and as sorta a high note shouted, "Gaughan is the only one who can protect Jersey City from Menendez." I asked him to elaborate on that. All I gots back was that he knew what he was talking about, but wouldn't say no more. : : : : Who is Healy supporting in the 31st Senate Race? : : : : : : The real question is who is supporting Healy in 31? Nah, this one can't be pinned on JD. It was somebody right outta the Howard Stern show! You knows, the world gotta be skiddin' along on it's side nowadays. We's got a Governor tip toein' offa the stage. A member of the Howard Stern show bunch is campaigning in the Heights. Plus, I just learned that a wino who used to hang out under the railroad bridge by the Holland Tunnel and the Sallies has gone and become a star in a cult film! ***************** End Of Article ****************** alsoranzo posted Message 6433 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 22:42:31 Subject: manzo poll has healy in front WOW!! LATEST MANZO POLL HAS HEALY LEADING THEY TRIED TO KEEP IT A SECRET BUT MERRY GERRY SPILLED THE BEANS ATER A FEW SNORTS. MANZO SUPPORTERS ARE SAYING LOU HAS PEAKED AS HE ALWAYS DID EARLY IN THE CAMPEIGN.AND HEALY IS MOVING SLOWLY BUT SURELY TO THE FRONT. THAT IS WHY MANZO CAMP IS ATTACKING HEALYS SIGNS BECAYSE THE KNOW HE IS THE ONE TO BEAT. HARVEY SMITH IS ALSO MOVING AT A STEADY PACE. LOU MAY FINISH THIRD. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou at the bar and all Lou wants is a soda! Move over Jerry posted Message 6434 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 23:31:40 Subject: Re: manzo poll has healy in front : WOW!! LATEST MANZO POLL HAS HEALY LEADING THE WAY TO THE BAR THEY TRIED TO KEEP IT A SECRET BUT MERRY GERRY SPILLED THE BEANS ATER A FEW SNORTS THAT BILL GAUGHAN BOUGHT HIM. DAMN IRISH, THEY GET LIQUORED UP AND NO TELLIN WHATS GONNA HAPPEN : MANZO SUPPORTERS ARE SAYING LOU HAS PEAKED AS HE ALWAYS DID EARLY IN THE CAMPEIGN AND IS NOW ON A STEADY COURSE. AND HEALY IS MOVING SLOWLY AS HE ALWAYS DOES AFTER A NIGHT AT THE BAR. : THAT IS WHY MANZO CAMP IS HAVING A BAD TIME KEEPING FOCUSED. THEY ARE TOO BUSY LAUGHING. : BECAYSE THE KNOW HE IS NOT THE ONE TO BEAT. : HARVEY SMITH IS ALSO MOVING AT A STEADY PACE. SLOOOOOOOOOOW. : LOU MAY FINISH FIRST WITH TIME TO SPARE. :JIMMY! COME HOME BABY. STOP RUNNING UP AND DOWN PEOPLES FRONT STEPS PEEING ON THEIR SIGNS. I HAVE A COLD BREW READY FOR YOU. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6435 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 25, 2004 at 23:35:18 Subject: Anthony the Censor I guess it's alright for some posting on this board to bash Kerry and get away with it, but when others answer (within the context of Jersey City/Hudson County rules on this board) their posts get deleted. All I posted was why I couldn't support Manzo if he backed Bush, and the reasons for it. How Bushs' policies are hurting Hudson County and Jersey City. And poof ... Anthony the Censor stepped in. You are really a hypocrite. You allow every sort of crap on this board ... people calling others gay, alcoholic, etc. Then delete serious posts about real issues. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 1st Admendment posted Message 6436 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 02:09:52 Subject: Re: Anthony the Censor Agreed, he is bias and there will be another forum for all 1st Admendment speech in the next week! Stay tuned : You are really a hypocrite. You allow every sort of crap on this board ... people calling others gay, alcoholic, etc. Then delete serious posts about real issues. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo! posted Message 6437 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 02:16:51 Subject: Michael Jackson & Lou Manzo perfect together Not for nothing, Manzo was campaigning in the Heights on Friday and one of the male neighbors who answered the door claimed Louie was giving him the eye and might have tried to slip him the tongue if his 3 year old was not standing near by. Parents be aware, Lou has a hidden agenda.. and it's just not about a friendly reach around! Real question, would you let your child slep with Micheal Jackson, would you let Jersey City be watched over by a Homo like Louie Manzo and his corrupt jail bird McCann? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Questionmeister posted Message 6438 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 02:28:47 Subject: Re: Nah, this one can't be pinned on JD. Uber..the real queston needs to be answered.. who wil support Healy, who really cares about the reverse.. the 31st? Hint...naaaahhhhhh. So get off your agenda and wake up to reality. The chicken before the egg?!?. Why should Healy support any Senate Candidate before they reach out for him? ***************** End Of Article ****************** PA prisoner posted Message 6439 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 02:31:17 Subject: McCann the Iron "Jerry the Iron" has pal who want to met up with him.. real soon.... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 6440 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 02:37:23 Subject: Recent Manzo Poll This week> Manzo has a poll asking if the Manzo/McCann factor (former mayor, Manzo Chief of Staff & felon) had any effect on Lou's campaign... you make the call? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Healy posted Message 6441 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 06:41:49 Subject: Re: Michael Jackson & Team Healy perfect together : Not for nothing, Healy was campaigning in the Heights on Friday and one of the male neighbors who answered the door claimed Jerry was giving him the eye and might have tried to slip him the tongue if his 3 year old was not standing near by.But then again with the booze smelt on Jerrys breath maybe he was just pieyed and coulnt tell the difference between a boy and a girl. : Parents be aware, Jerry has a hidden agenda.. and it's just not about a friendly reach around! His team consists of drunks and homophobes. : Real question, would you let your child slep with Micheal Jackson, would you let Jersey City be watched over by a drunk like Jerry and his corrupt drunken forked tongue group of homophobes? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Luvplume Larry posted Message 6442 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 06:46:11 Subject: Re: Recent Manzo Poll : This week> Manzo has a poll asking if the Healy/Gaughan/DeGise/Demeller/DICKson factor (drunk/nasty drunk/dirty/foulmouthed nasty drunk hiding behind fatherinlaw cause he has no stones) had any effect on Lou's campaign... you bet! Oh happy days. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6443 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 08:01:23 Subject: Well, since Healy made the bold move of handing out an endorsement . . . Well, since Healy made the bold move of handing out an endorsement to the Presidential candidate (who just happens to be the favorite in Jersey City), I figgered that Jerry wouldn't just stop there. I'm waiting to hear his thoughts on the State Senate race in the 31st. The State Senate race is for the un-expired portion of Glenn Cunningham's term. What's most likely is that the majority of voters will go for Kerry and Doria as a ticket. What remains to be seen is to what extent Chiappone will be able to chip support away from Joe Doria. And the task ahead of Bobby Jackson, Joe Cardwell, and the rest of the Reform Democrats is to instruct their block of voters to split the ticket to elect Kabili Tayari. In the realm of communicating with voters, the Reform Democrats have shown themselves immensely capable in the past. So, if anybody can do it, the Reform Democrats can. As the Reform Democrats are facing an uphill fight here, whether they WILL be able to do it remains to be seen! Napoleon's first great victory was achieved by attacking an Italian army on a hill above him. The truth is that not all but most (If you know Italian, the pun is intentional.) who think that they are Bonaparte suffer from a reality-challenge. And there's also that little item of Gaughan's supporters badmouthing Congressman Menendez -- one going so far as giving Gaughan's ill-will towards Bob Menendez as a reason to support Healy. What does Councilman Healy think about that? : Uber..the real queston needs to be answered.. who wil support Healy, who really cares about the reverse.. the 31st? : : Hint...naaaahhhhhh. : So get off your agenda and wake up to reality. : The chicken before the egg?!?. Why should Healy support any Senate Candidate before they reach out for him? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6444 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 09:03:53 Subject: Commenting on the National Campaigns at GETNJ This Board focuses on Hudson County Politics. General posts on the national campaigns WILL BE DELETED! Recognized figures in Hudson County Politics are welcome to e-mail or fax their opinions on the Presidential election to be posted here. Please DO include an office telephone number so that I can verify the source. Of course, all may post differing viewpoints as replies directly relating to these statements. I've no interest in seeing every third rate flack demonstrate their expertise in cutting and pasting from a list of talking points. I expect that all visitors feel the same way. Plus, as many visitors to this Page are political professionals and media, there just isn't any point in parroting a line here. Don't hesitate to post meetups, events, appearances, fund raisers, and other announcements concerning national campaign activity in Hudson County. It's really sad how radio (both talk and music) has decayed into bland and narrow repetition of identical material. If that's your bag, phone talk radio and proceed to jabber mindlessly. For most of the modern era, radio provided a communal hearth. For the last decade, what was once a magical medium has dismembered itself with a bizarre and savage intensity. It's common for the generally useless nameless drones on the periphery of Hudson County politics to wander about spreading rumors and outright lies in the hope of sowing dissension and creating confusion. I'm telling you this: I don't want to see you lose your rare opportunity for exercise. Get your dead rears out on the street and take your malarkey for a walk. Don't expect me to help you automate the process! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Red Flyer posted Message 6445 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 10:31:45 Subject: Warren Street JUST GOT BACK IN TOWN........Heard Rumor JCPD Raided The Above Looking For Dope Did They Find Any??????? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ron4me posted Message 6446 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 10:48:57 Subject: Re: Warren Street : JUST GOT BACK IN TOWN........Heard Rumor JCPD Raided The Above Looking For Dope Did They Find Any??????? they found alot lou manzo AKA louney lou''' gerry mcann AKA can't even win commitee seat rich freda AKA degenerate gambler tom curtis AKA snorty dan mcman AKA crackhead bill rodolfos AKA little dick ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 6447 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 10:52:15 Subject: Re: Recent Manzo Poll The other question asked by the Manzo Poll How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Danny Pop? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Questionmeister posted Message 6448 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 10:57:35 Subject: ??? So what I hear is that one of the factors for you to make up your mind (or fire back about what's wrong with the candidate) as whom to vote is which mayoral candidate supports which Senate Candidate in 31? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6449 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 11:26:02 Subject: As the dough starts to rise in both the Mayor and 31st races : So what I hear is that one of the factors for you to make up your mind (or fire back about what's wrong with the candidate) as whom to vote is which mayoral candidate supports which Senate Candidate in 31? I've not seen any polls for the 31s Senate race. If Kabili Tayari develops any traction, I'd expect the Reform Democrats to demand that the mayoral candidates state their position on the 31st Senate race candidates. And it's certainly a legitimate question for anybody to ask of the candidates running for Mayor of Jersey City. The campaign trains for the two offices are now almost on separate tracks. If they wind up on the same track, it'll be interesting to which engines get a push, which get sidelined, and which ones crash into each other. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Can't take you seriously posted Message 6450 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 17:15:03 Subject: Learn to spell - - Idiot : : WOW!! LATEST MANZO POLL HAS HEALY LEADING THE WAY TO THE BAR THEY TRIED TO KEEP IT A SECRET BUT MERRY GERRY SPILLED THE BEANS ATER A FEW SNORTS THAT BILL GAUGHAN BOUGHT HIM. DAMN IRISH, THEY GET LIQUORED UP AND NO TELLIN WHATS GONNA HAPPEN : : MANZO SUPPORTERS ARE SAYING LOU HAS PEAKED AS HE ALWAYS DID EARLY IN THE CAMPEIGN AND IS NOW ON A STEADY COURSE. AND HEALY IS MOVING SLOWLY AS HE ALWAYS DOES AFTER A NIGHT AT THE BAR. : : THAT IS WHY MANZO CAMP IS HAVING A BAD TIME KEEPING FOCUSED. THEY ARE TOO BUSY LAUGHING. : : BECAYSE THE KNOW HE IS NOT THE ONE TO BEAT. : : HARVEY SMITH IS ALSO MOVING AT A STEADY PACE. SLOOOOOOOOOOW. : : LOU MAY FINISH FIRST WITH TIME TO SPARE. : :JIMMY! COME HOME BABY. STOP RUNNING UP AND DOWN PEOPLES FRONT STEPS PEEING ON THEIR SIGNS. I HAVE A COLD BREW READY FOR YOU. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who's the bigger idiot? posted Message 6451 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 17:27:26 Subject: Re: Learn to spell - - Idiot :::Take a long look at the original post. Only certain words were changed J-O. So actually, you Healy people are calling yourselves idiots. Glad you recognize that fact. JIMMMMMMYYYYY! I GOTTA COLD BREW AND SOME CORN BEEF AND CABBAGE FOR YOU BABY. COME HOME PLEASE. : : : WOW!! LATEST MANZO POLL HAS HEALY LEADING THE WAY TO THE BAR THEY TRIED TO KEEP IT A SECRET BUT MERRY GERRY SPILLED THE BEANS ATER A FEW SNORTS THAT BILL GAUGHAN BOUGHT HIM. DAMN IRISH, THEY GET LIQUORED UP AND NO TELLIN WHATS GONNA HAPPEN : : : MANZO SUPPORTERS ARE SAYING LOU HAS PEAKED AS HE ALWAYS DID EARLY IN THE CAMPEIGN AND IS NOW ON A STEADY COURSE. AND HEALY IS MOVING SLOWLY AS HE ALWAYS DOES AFTER A NIGHT AT THE BAR. : : : THAT IS WHY MANZO CAMP IS HAVING A BAD TIME KEEPING FOCUSED. THEY ARE TOO BUSY LAUGHING. : : : BECAYSE THE KNOW HE IS NOT THE ONE TO BEAT. : : : HARVEY SMITH IS ALSO MOVING AT A STEADY PACE. SLOOOOOOOOOOW. : : : LOU MAY FINISH FIRST WITH TIME TO SPARE. : : :JIMMY! COME HOME BABY. STOP RUNNING UP AND DOWN PEOPLES FRONT STEPS PEEING ON THEIR SIGNS. I HAVE A COLD BREW READY FOR YOU. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Luvplume Larry posted Message 6452 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 17:30:01 Subject: Re: Recent Manzo Poll : The other question asked by the Manzo Poll : How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Slim Jimmy DICKson. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Almost posted Message 6453 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 17:33:30 Subject: Re: Warren Street Jimmy DICKson had just left. : JUST GOT BACK IN TOWN........Heard Rumor JCPD Raided The Above Looking For Dope Did They Find Any??????? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6454 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 18:08:42 Subject: Re: Manzo's Mafia - Watch your A$$ 10:30:44 09/25/04 (3) "Funny how more than one board is flooded with pure $hit about Lou Manzo and almost nothing about Healy and his Taminy Hall drinking buddies/thugs. Now you put a sign up that makes it look like Kerry, a lying sack of liberal $hit, endorses Healy, a drunken sop." So how come this didn't get deleted Anthony ? My guess is because you are hypocritical right wing Schundler lackey, who winks at the right wing comments in this room. ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 6455 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 19:12:37 Subject: Re: Warren Street : Jimmy DICKson had just left. : : JUST GOT BACK IN TOWN........Heard Rumor JCPD Raided The Above Looking For Dope Did They Find Any??????? I GUESS JIMMY DICKson IS NO DOPE ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6456 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 20:26:35 Subject: Healy's pose of running on the Kerry ticket is a very strange thing and is certain to provoke comment. : "Funny how more than one board is flooded with pure $hit about Lou Manzo and almost nothing about Healy and his Taminy Hall drinking buddies/thugs. Now you put a sign up that makes it look like Kerry, a lying sack of liberal $hit, endorses Healy, a drunken sop." : So how come this didn't get deleted Anthony ? My guess is because you are hypocritical right wing Schundler lackey, who winks at the right wing comments in this room. Healy's pose of running on the Kerry ticket is a very strange thing and is certain to provoke comment. If one looks at the Menendez Web Site (who is running on the same ticket as John Kerry), you'll see a clear -- but concise -- statement of support of the Democratic Presidential candidate. At Healy's Site, Kerry is all over the Main Page. On the Central Avenue Healy Office I see that there's now what looks like a 20 ft sign with KERRY and HEALY in big equal sized letters. I'm just curious to what degree this might backfire. If the Healy crew does manage to fool enough people into thinking that Healy is part of the Kerry line, what's going to happen when these voters get in the booth and try to vote a straight column? If their hand never strays to the horizontal, as they've been trained, I'd guess that none of the Mayoral candidates will get that vote. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMY DICKSON posted Message 6457 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 20:49:12 Subject: Re: Is Jimmy DICKson Hiding ????? : : Where is big mouth Jimmy DICKson??\ : : I hear he is playing second fiddle to his father in law the chief of staph. He has to or he will find himself not being able to drive county vehicles on a suspended license and sleeping on benches again : : I AM NOT SCARED I LIVE @972 SUMMIT AVE MY CELL IS 2013203729 IAM HERE FOR GOOD GOV'T IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ME ON HERE I AM ***************** End Of Article ****************** THATS RIGHT posted Message 6458 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 21:22:21 Subject: Re: Warren Street ::: TO BE ONE YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A BRAIN. HE PROBABLY SLITHERED OUT THE BACK DOOR AND INTO HIS DOWNTOWN CONDO - THE SEWER. PURE LUCK. HIS DAY IS COMING. DADDY IN LAW WONT BE AROUND FOREVER. : : Jimmy DICKson had just left. : : : JUST GOT BACK IN TOWN........Heard Rumor JCPD Raided The Above Looking For Dope Did They Find Any??????? : I GUESS JIMMY DICKson IS NO DOPE ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 6459 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 21:25:09 Subject: Re: Healy's pose of running on the Kerry ticket is a very strange thing and is certain to provoke comment. ::::"what's going to happen when these voters get in the booth and try to vote a straight column? If their hand never strays to the horizontal, as they've been trained, I'd guess that none of the Mayoral candidates will get that vote." From your keyboard to God's moniter. : : "Funny how more than one board is flooded with pure $hit about Lou Manzo and almost nothing about Healy and his Taminy Hall drinking buddies/thugs. Now you put a sign up that makes it look like Kerry, a lying sack of liberal $hit, endorses Healy, a drunken sop." : : So how come this didn't get deleted Anthony ? My guess is because you are hypocritical right wing Schundler lackey, who winks at the right wing comments in this room. : Healy's pose of running on the Kerry ticket is a very strange thing and is certain to provoke comment. : If one looks at the Menendez Web Site (who is running on the same ticket as John Kerry), you'll see a clear -- but concise -- statement of support of the Democratic Presidential candidate. At Healy's Site, Kerry is all over the Main Page. On the Central Avenue Healy Office I see that there's now what looks like a 20 ft sign with KERRY and HEALY in big equal sized letters. : I'm just curious to what degree this might backfire. If the Healy crew does manage to fool enough people into thinking that Healy is part of the Kerry line, what's going to happen when these voters get in the booth and try to vote a straight column? If their hand never strays to the horizontal, as they've been trained, I'd guess that none of the Mayoral candidates will get that vote. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sorry, so sorry posted Message 6460 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 21:26:52 Subject: Re: Is Jimmy DICKson Hiding ????? :::I dont drink. : : : Where is big mouth Jimmy DICKson??\ : : : I hear he is playing second fiddle to his father in law the chief of staph. He has to or he will find himself not being able to drive county vehicles on a suspended license and sleeping on benches again : : : I AM NOT SCARED I LIVE @972 SUMMIT AVE MY CELL IS 2013203729 IAM HERE FOR GOOD GOV'T IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ME ON HERE I AM ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 6461 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 21:53:54 Subject: Dump Corrado !! I had the unfortunate experience of watching the City Council Caucus meeting on JC1TV this week .. and seeing that fool Greg Corrado sitting at the head of the table as Assistant BA. This weasel sold his soul to Glenn Cunningham after getting a patronage post form his Godfather, Bret Schundler. I hope Harvey Smith or whoever else becomes Mayor has the sense to get rid of this lying, conniving piece of crap. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6462 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 22:01:18 Subject: Lipski-Mobile The Lipski-Mobile was observed parked in the Casino In The Park parking lot over the weekend. Flipski was inside picking up an award from his butt-boy Tony Grazioso. I'm guessing Flipski is getting a bit too old and fat for Tony. He prefers much younger men. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jaye posted Message 6463 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 22:44:04 Subject: Re: Dump Corrado !! CORRADO MUST GO. AGREED ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's All THey Can Do posted Message 6464 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 23:35:56 Subject: Healy's Cry Babies Their candidate is never sober, is just a puppet for DeGise and Menendez, and all the Healy supporters can do is point fingers at Lou Manzo's brother or an x-Mayor that, let's face it, has more political smarts than the whole Healy crew put together. And lets not forget that Healy is the Janiszewski candidate. Yeah, talk all you want about everything but Lou because he is going to clean Healy's clock come election day. That's the real reason all the Healy supporters are crying! THey will have no place to go, except the Astor. Good luck! : :::Oh, we dont like it when the mud we have been throwing is picked up and thrown back at you. Mommy, mommy the mean old Manzo people are picking on us. bwaahhhhhhhhhh : : Manzo's people have no response other than to throw mud AGAIN. No wonder the more that people learn about Lou...the less likely they are to vote for him. Lot's of baggage...a convict brother... a convict campaign manager... and we're supposed to trust this guy? Give me a break. : : : Funny how more than one board is flooded with pure $hit about Lou Manzo and almost nothing about Healy and his Taminy Hall drinking buddies/thugs. Now you put a sign up that makes it look like Kerry, a lying sack of liberal $hit, endorses Healy, a drunken sop. : : : Keep lying & spinning if it makes you feel better you bunch of DICK heads. You can say Manzo has Mc Can but Healy has Gaughan, DICKson, DeGise and let's not forget, the man who learned at Mc Cans knee - Buddy Boy. : : : The pot calls the kettle black - whadda joke A$$holes! : : : : Manzo's people come here blasting Healy for everything except what he decide to have for breakfast. They come here blasting him for putting up a billboard encouraging people to vote for John Kerry for President and Healy for Mayor. Maybe Healy wouldn't have had to buy Billboard Space (which obviously frustrates Manzo) if McCann didn't spend his nights running around tearing down Healy for Mayor signs. : : : : Manzo plays dirty, and then cries when Healy finds a way to get his message out there anyway. Manzo digs up yesterday's political corpses to run his campaign, and then has the nerve to call Healy "captive" of the machine. Manzo has not talked about one single new idea, and all he does is go around calling Jerry Healy a drunk. : : : : Manzo has run a lousy campaign and if he will run our city the same way....he DOESN"T DESERVE TO BE MAYOR. Clean up your act Lou, and maybe I'll vote for you. But if the election were today, I would get ILL...pulling a lever for Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** What Are You Going to do Ron? posted Message 6465 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 23:41:20 Subject: Come'in to Jesus The judge is giving Ron Bonocoure some time to decide if he really wants to swear on the bible that he's lived in JC for more than a year. If he does and he is caught lying he will not only to thrown off the ballot but he could be perjuring himself, more trouble. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bobby J for Healy posted Message 6466 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 23:47:56 Subject: McCann Don't Matter McCann did not get convicted while he was in office. Unlike the big Healy supporter Bobby J., who admitted to committing multiple felonies while in office. Healy and Bobby J, a match made in heaven, NO! HELL! : This week> Manzo has a poll asking if the Manzo/McCann factor (former mayor, Manzo Chief of Staff & felon) had any effect on Lou's campaign... you make the call? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bobby M posted Message 6467 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 26, 2004 at 23:53:42 Subject: Why Don't You Ask --- Ask Menendez, he knows how to lick'em. : : The other question asked by the Manzo Poll : : How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Slim Jimmy DICKson. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pet Clean-up Crew posted Message 6468 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 00:03:48 Subject: Jobs for the Healy Losers I hear Lou might have a few openings for Healy supporters after he is elected mayor, cleaning up the dog do-do in front of the Astor Bar. : : : Its going to be hilarious after Lou Manzo is elected Mayor. : : : All of these Healy-Lipski-Bonocoure losers will be begging Lou for forgiveness. They know they are incompetent and not able to hold a legitimate job. THey have no marketable skills and not enough intelligent to know how to get it. Besides that their too lazy to even try. : : : They better learn how to swim, the Hudson River gets cold in November. : : : : : Its amazing how paranoid Healy and Lipskis camp has become. The closer we get to election day the more garbage Lipski and gentleman Healy throw up on this board. Do they really think people buy their garbage? : : : : : We all know Manzo has a corrupt brother , Healy is a drunk and Lipski is a flip flopping snake : : : : : We all know this is Healys last gasp and Lipskis first and last breath to hold on to a political life. And we all can see the fear in the eyes of their camps as they see their campaign going down the drain. : : : : : What amazes me is that Lou graciously allows these losers to come to this board and slander him. : : : : : What amazes me is that by Richies, of Lipskis camp, own admission they are so desperate that they spend their nights tearing down "Healy for Mayor" and "Manzo for Mayor" signs in a desparate attempt to have these two camps fight so Lipski can stay at least on life support. : : : : : But then desperate men use desperate tactics. No surprise I suppose. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Its Called Ronnie Dust posted Message 6469 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 00:12:59 Subject: Dope Was Found! -- Yeah, the JCPD found some strange substance, believed to be grown in Hamburg NJ, but processed in JC. If taken, one becomes disoriented, can't remember where they really live, and begins to have illusions of grandure. : : JUST GOT BACK IN TOWN........Heard Rumor JCPD Raided The Above Looking For Dope Did They Find Any??????? : they found alot lou manzo AKA louney lou''' gerry mcann AKA can't even win commitee seat rich freda AKA degenerate gambler tom curtis AKA snorty dan mcman AKA crackhead bill rodolfos AKA little dick ***************** End Of Article ****************** weno posted Message 6470 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 00:17:17 Subject: Re: Is Jimmy DICKson Hiding ????? : : : : Where is big mouth Jimmy DICKson??\ : : : I hear he is playing second fiddle to his father in law the chief of staph. He has to or he will find himself not being able to drive county vehicles on a suspended license and sleeping on benches again : : : I AM NOT SCARED I LIVE @972 SUMMIT AVE MY CELL IS 2013203729 IAM HERE FOR GOOD GOV'T IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ME ON HERE I AM ::::do the words "restraining order" mean anything to you tough guy? Your mother knows what they mean. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tony city worker posted Message 6471 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 01:48:45 Subject: Mrs flood Mrs Flood I know you are going to be the next mayor we have faith in you andi'm not looking for a Job cus I already have soming Mrs Flood I feellike you are the Ram in the bush. hey willie if you nd phillp sr. ever have problems with leave and come visit/ ***************** End Of Article ****************** No Thanks! posted Message 6472 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 06:33:21 Subject: Re: Why Don't You Ask --- :::Now there's the picture I want to start my day with. Yuck! : Ask Menendez, he knows how to lick'em. : : : : The other question asked by the Manzo Poll : : : How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Slim Jimmy DICKson. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jimmy dickson posted Message 6473 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 07:24:02 Subject: Re: Is Jimmy DICKson Hiding ????? : : : : : : Where is big mouth Jimmy DICKson??\ : : : : I hear he is playing second fiddle to his father in law the chief of staph. He has to or he will find himself not being able to drive county vehicles on a suspended license and sleeping on benches again : : : : I AM NOT SCARED I LIVE @972 SUMMIT AVE MY CELL IS 2013203729 IAM HERE FOR GOOD GOV'T IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ME ON HERE I AM : ::::do the words "restraining order" mean anything to you tough guy? Your mother knows what they mean. weno; come out and ID yourself then we will talk ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bad Deal posted Message 6474 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 07:55:21 Subject: Why did Manzo make Deal with Menendez &Kenny? He just sold his soul to the Devils. Dam Yankee. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Breaking Up posted Message 6475 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 08:08:53 Subject: DeGise &Gaughan Vs Menendez &Kenny Big fight is on over Sellout To Manzo by Porky Pig & Mr On All Sides Kenny.DeGise And Gaughan will win this one for Jersey City.Hudson County leadership is a cess pool of corruption. Starting with Xanadu & the Golf Course by Menendez &Kenny. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ron4Mayor posted Message 6476 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 08:37:41 Subject: Re: Dope Was Found! -- The only dope that was found was Lou Mazo and Jerry McScam! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City Plus posted Message 6477 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 08:40:47 Subject: A Plus to be free from Menendez & Kenny There may be hope yet for us. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban TImes News posted Message 6478 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 08:49:25 Subject: Inside County Lines Urban Times News Issue 213 Earl the Hat Morgan spends the better part of his days looking for African American living above the poverty line to write about. As we saw last week, his story was about the African American Director of the Jersey City Incinerator Authority. What about the last Jersey City bond deal? You know, the one that the told the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham that they didn’t need in order to avoid a tax increase. As soon as L. Harvey Smith became the Acting Mayor, he brought Dennis Enright, former County Executive Bob Janisewski’s finance wiz with the questionable background, to do the deal. We know that the Hat can’t find any fault with the County Administration led by Tom DeGise, or Acting Mayor Harvey Smith’s city administration. You are a hypocrite and a phony Earl the Hat. We want to take issue with some of the people around certain candidates starting with Lou Manzo campaign led by former Mayor Gerry McCann. We understand that five days after the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham died, he reserved the Casino on the Park for an election night party for Lou Manzo, after telling everyone that he and Manzo wouldn’t discuss the Mayor’s race until 30 days after the mayor’s death. If Manzo can approve of this type of campaigning what kind of candidate can he be? To let a guy like Gerry McCann run his campaign? What decent person could vote for a Manzo/McCann team? Acting Mayor L. Harvey is letting Roger Catfish Jones lead his campaign when Jones was the one who ran Gerry McCann’s campaign for mayor in 1989. Roger is telling Gerry McCann everything that Smith is doing. Ed “Cheat” Cheatum is on leave with the County Bosses Tom DeGise and Chief of Staff Bill Gaughan. He is well aware that he will have to go back to his old job in the county after Smith losses in November, and is not telling Gaughan and DeGise everything about the Smith campaign. Smith got rid of Frank Lorenzo because he believed that he was not supporting him, but what about Cheatum and Jones? Smith has another problem. Who will he support for State Senate? He has to support Joe Doria from Bayonne. Remember Joe Doria took the seat from Jersey City after the death of Mayor Cunningham. Smith people are talking about splitting the black community. Let’s see what he does on the Senate race. Ron Bonoucore is running in this election, claiming that he was a friend to the late Mayor Glenn Cunningham with the two Booth Brothers running his campaign. Alex Booth if you remember was the first director to openly work against Mayor Cunningham and was asked to resign by Mayor Cunningham. He wouldn’t leave and joined with the city council to block the mayor. He started the city council to vote against anything that Mayor Cunningham proposed. His brother Jon (Jay) Booth tried to take over the Municipal Utility Authority with a fifteen million dollar bond deal that would have bankrupted the city. Stevie Wonder can see what these two guys will do if they are ever in control. Poor Gerry Healy, one of his greatest problems is that it is rumored that Gerry McCann has a picture of Healy undressed and drunk. This is McCann’s style, but he is Lou Manzo’s chief campaign strategist. But his real problem is Tom DeGise and Gaughan. In the minority community, Gaughan is believed to be racist, and they’ve done nothing to change that image. One last item - Gerry McCann told Freeholder Jeff Dublin that when Manzo becomes mayor next he may have to replace Dublin on the ticket. When did Gerry McCann begin to decide what happens in the black community? We didn’t forget his belief that all poor people should leave Jersey City and be moved to Monmouth County. Manzo better get control of McCann before he dooms his campaign. Kabili Tayari is the candidate for Senate in the 31st district joining Willie Flood as mayoral candidate and Jeff Dublin as Freeholder candidate to form the Cunningham Team. ***************** End Of Article ****************** If Only posted Message 6479 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 09:03:58 Subject: Tom Gaynor sure would cure Jersey City from its ills If only he stayed in Jersey City instead of fleeing to Avon-By-The-Sea.Off with there heads would be his motto. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He's Gone posted Message 6480 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 09:13:41 Subject: Re: Dump Corrado !! : CORRADO MUST GO. AGREED ***************** End Of Article ****************** He's Gone posted Message 6481 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 09:18:32 Subject: Re: Dump Corrado !! : CORRADO MUST GO. AGREED ***************** End Of Article ****************** He would sing posted Message 6482 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 09:20:17 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor sure would cure Jersey City from its ills : Just a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down, The medicine go down, the medicine go down. Just a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down, In a most delightful way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Was Ron posted Message 6483 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 09:22:47 Subject: Re: Dope Was Found! -- : He dont live here, he dont vote here, he is a bully and not like even a real cop. Talk about Gerry! We should call this guy Con Buonocore. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joey Bonaducci posted Message 6484 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 09:25:04 Subject: Clean Glass, Dirty Glass Look. I dont want some scum bag businessman like Manzo running this City. I don't want a drunk crossdresser like Healy running this city. I dont want an UNCLE TOM IDIOT like Harvey running this city.(You see how its been running since he was PUT there). I would rather have a person that dosen't have any blemishes on their record. The only candidate I see like that is Willie. She is truly a clean glass. Especially compared to the other candidates. AA FUGHETABOUTIT!!!! She's gonna win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** meanswell posted Message 6485 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 09:31:19 Subject: Re: Clean Glass, Dirty Glass : Look. I dont want some scum bag businessman like Manzo running this City. I don't want a drunk crossdresser like Healy running this city. I dont want an UNCLE TOM IDIOT like Harvey running this city.(You see how its been running since he was PUT there). I would rather have a person that dosen't have any blemishes on their record. The only candidate I see like that is Willie. She is truly a clean glass. Especially compared to the other candidates. AA FUGHETABOUTIT!!!! She's gonna win. A clean glass is an empty glass. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joe posted Message 6486 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 09:43:09 Subject: A dirty Glass is FULL OF $hit Willie is a good person you degenerate. At least she is in this race for the right reasons. Anybody thinks different is a self serving bastard. You guys know she is the right choice. AA FUGHETABOUTIT!! : : Look. I dont want some scum bag businessman like Manzo running this City. I don't want a drunk crossdresser like Healy running this city. I dont want an UNCLE TOM IDIOT like Harvey running this city.(You see how its been running since he was PUT there). I would rather have a person that dosen't have any blemishes on their record. The only candidate I see like that is Willie. She is truly a clean glass. Especially compared to the other candidates. AA FUGHETABOUTIT!!!! She's gonna win. : : A clean glass is an empty glass. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Best Kept Secret posted Message 6487 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 09:51:28 Subject: I'm Supporting Willie, Just Quietly This just goes to show you how these people are. They threaten your job. Break your windows. That's why I an supporting her. Believe me there's alot of people who have other signs up but are voting for Willie!! They can't see you in the voting booth. I hope she does win. God Bless Willie!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou is in front posted Message 6488 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 10:14:53 Subject: Poll Manzo holds an 8 point lead over Healy... The rest of the other candidates don't even show up. An 8 point lead with 5 weeks to go, Manzo will win easy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Serious posted Message 6489 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 10:17:55 Subject: Re: Poll (They don't show up because they weren't asked about. Manzo is throwing alot of money around. : Manzo holds an 8 point lead over Healy... The rest of the other candidates don't even show up. An 8 point lead with 5 weeks to go, Manzo will win easy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sorry...You're clueless... McCann was DRAGGED from Office posted Message 6490 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 10:20:55 Subject: Re: McCann Don't Matter You are obviously some idiot who has no clue about the history of this town. McCann...for your information was charged, tried and convicted while in his second year of his second term. He then refused to step down from office until the courts forcd him out. As for Janiszewski...he was working for Schundler and against Healy from the begninning. Yeah....idiot....he was working against the HCDO's candidate and for Bret from the start. If you don't understand the historic power struggle between the County Executive and the Mayor of JC...then you wouldn't understand this and are truly clueless. So much for your knowledge of JC political players and history. Please go get and a political education before you post more stupid comments here. : McCann did not get convicted while he was in office. Unlike the big Healy supporter Bobby J., who admitted to committing multiple felonies while in office. : Healy and Bobby J, a match made in heaven, NO! HELL! : : : This week> Manzo has a poll asking if the Manzo/McCann factor (former mayor, Manzo Chief of Staff & felon) had any effect on Lou's campaign... you make the call? ***************** End Of Article ****************** I don't buy it. posted Message 6491 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 10:22:59 Subject: Polls Cost 30 to 40K Every week someone has a poll. It's all bull$hit. Even if someone had a real poll why the hell would they show it to the internet. That is sensitive material. So all this poll talk is speculation by someone trying to put $hit in the game. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6492 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 10:25:52 Subject: You're right and you're wrong Yeah, a real analysis would cost the big bucks. Most of what they call polls are just 100 random phone calls to a random selection of registered voters. : Every week someone has a poll. It's all bull$hit. Even if someone had a real poll why the hell would they show it to the internet. That is sensitive material. So all this poll talk is speculation by someone trying to put $hit in the game. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Very interesting posted Message 6493 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 10:26:06 Subject: Things that make you go hmmmm Type in www.smithformayor.com and see what you get. hmmmmmm. Not strange considering this candidate was seen at that candidate's office ensuring he will get his county job back when all this is over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6494 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 10:29:03 Subject: McCann's convictions didn't involve acts while in Office McCann was convicted during his second term as Mayor of Jersey City. He was then removed from Office. The crimes took place while McCann was a private citizen and did not involve a betrayal of the public trust. : You are obviously some idiot who has no clue about the history of this town. McCann...for your information was charged, tried and convicted while in his second year of his second term. He then refused to step down from office until the courts forcd him out. : As for Janiszewski...he was working for Schundler and against Healy from the begninning. Yeah....idiot....he was working against the HCDO's candidate and for Bret from the start. : If you don't understand the historic power struggle between the County Executive and the Mayor of JC...then you wouldn't understand this and are truly clueless. So much for your knowledge of JC political players and history. : Please go get and a political education before you post more stupid comments here. : : : McCann did not get convicted while he was in office. Unlike the big Healy supporter Bobby J., who admitted to committing multiple felonies while in office. : : Healy and Bobby J, a match made in heaven, NO! HELL! : : : : : This week> Manzo has a poll asking if the Manzo/McCann factor (former mayor, Manzo Chief of Staff & felon) had any effect on Lou's campaign... you make the call? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Whoa! posted Message 6495 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 10:36:14 Subject: What the F@%*? That's too funny. These guys are really scum bags!! They play dirty. That's why I'm not going to Vote for none of those a$$holes. Willie Flood for Mayor. At least she isn't Dirty!! : Type in www.smithformayor.com and see what you get. : hmmmmmm. Not strange considering this candidate was seen at that candidate's office ensuring he will get his county job back when all this is over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** By Convicted Briber Joe Barry posted Message 6496 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 12:00:09 Subject: Menendez's Golf Course Being Built Lets hope the US Attorney's Office is looking into the shady Golf Course / Development deal that Menendez is trying to ram down our throats. Barry's Applied Companies seem to be getting lots of deals lately - The W Hotel on the Hoboken Waterfront - Now the Golf Course ***************** End Of Article ****************** You got that right posted Message 6497 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 12:07:38 Subject: Re: What the F@%*? That's too funny. :: Well, if nothing else, Willie wears some of the best hats. : These guys are really scum bags!! They play dirty. That's why I'm not going to Vote for none of those a$$holes. Willie Flood for Mayor. At least she isn't Dirty!! : : Type in www.smithformayor.com and see what you get. : : hmmmmmm. Not strange considering this candidate was seen at that candidate's office ensuring he will get his county job back when all this is over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know posted Message 6498 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 12:25:42 Subject: So you did see her Sunday. She did look beautiful. : :: Well, if nothing else, Willie wears some of the best hats. : : : These guys are really scum bags!! They play dirty. That's why I'm not going to Vote for none of those a$$holes. Willie Flood for Mayor. At least she isn't Dirty!! : : : : Type in www.smithformayor.com and see what you get. : : : hmmmmmm. Not strange considering this candidate was seen at that candidate's office ensuring he will get his county job back when all this is over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Correction posted Message 6499 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 12:49:24 Subject: Re: Poll Actually the latest polls show Manzo with a 2 point lead. But his numbers haven't moved for 5-6 weeks while Healy has slowly closed the gap. Now with Manzo's lead cut to two points, its statistically a dead heat. People are getting tired of what they consider "dirty politics" that they see on the street, and polls are showing that. If this comes down to a GOTV effort on election day....with the County's help...say hello to Mayor Healy. : Manzo holds an 8 point lead over Healy... The rest of the other candidates don't even show up. An 8 point lead with 5 weeks to go, Manzo will win easy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Resident posted Message 6500 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 12:56:35 Subject: People Be Rational!! (You know why Louie, Jerry, Harvey, Bon Bon,And Flipski want to win the race) Personal gain. That's the truth. You tell me when Manzo has helped someone besides himself until there is an election rolling around. People If any of these candidates gets in we are Doomed. Willie is the ONE. At least she dosen't have any alterior motives. She really cares for the city. If you people know better you would want a woman like her running this city. She is fair. I bet my money on Willie!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6501 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:01:45 Subject: Reality Check Willie Flood is the candidate of Joe Cardwell and Bobby Jackson. They stand to make millions if she is elected. She is nothing but an empty-headed puppet for these two venal racists. Willie will gladly take the crumbs these two will hand her. Don't be fooled Jersey City. Make sure Jackson and Cardwell aren't returned to power. ***************** End Of Article ****************** True posted Message 6502 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:02:49 Subject: If Healy gets elected Deguise and Gaughn will be in charge Racist rednecks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** True posted Message 6503 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:04:02 Subject: If Manzo gets elected the Mafia will be in charge. Dirtbag!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6504 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:05:05 Subject: She's not dirty. She's too stupid to be dirty. The real dirtbags are her backers, Cardwell and Jackson. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth posted Message 6505 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:05:26 Subject: Re: Reality Check Actually Mrs Flood takes orders from NOBODY!!!! Get your facts straight. We are for the people not ourselves!! : Willie Flood is the candidate of Joe Cardwell and Bobby Jackson. They stand to make millions if she is elected. She is nothing but an empty-headed puppet for these two venal racists. : Willie will gladly take the crumbs these two will hand her. Don't be fooled Jersey City. Make sure Jackson and Cardwell aren't returned to power. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TRUE posted Message 6506 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:09:38 Subject: If Uncle Harvey gets elected Criminals like his son will be in charge. Ask kip about the Rasta they killed uptown. His boy did time and he didn't. Oh yeah Harvey's other son got arrested for hitting a Correction officer and got away with it. Harvey called and told them to release him.. This is the kind of Bull$hit I am talking about. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth posted Message 6507 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:14:15 Subject: Re: She's not dirty. You may call her stupid but you CAN'T call her CORRUPT!! Sometimes ignorance is bliss!! At least she never got slandered in the newspaper like the other guys. You may call her stupid but you CAN'T call her corrupt!! : She's too stupid to be dirty. : The real dirtbags are her backers, Cardwell and Jackson. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth posted Message 6508 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:14:17 Subject: Re: She's not dirty. You may call her stupid but you CAN'T call her CORRUPT!! Sometimes ignorance is bliss!! At least she never got slandered in the newspaper like the other guys. You may call her stupid but you CAN'T call her corrupt!! : She's too stupid to be dirty. : The real dirtbags are her backers, Cardwell and Jackson. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 6509 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:19:32 Subject: HEALY IN POOR HEALTH HEALY MAY NOT MAKE IT TO ELECTION DAY... ***************** End Of Article ****************** TRUE posted Message 6510 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:22:55 Subject: If Willie gets elected the PEOPLE WILL BE IN CHARGE Not Bobby and Joe like everyone thinks. She has a husband who guides her. She is her own woman, who takes orders from nobody PERIOD. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TRUE posted Message 6511 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:27:18 Subject: Re: HEALY IN POOR HEALTH (Don't mock someone's health) That's just plain despicable. I don't care for his views but I would never play on someone's health. Don't sleep. Your health could be taken away in the blink of an eye. You need to pray. : HEALY MAY NOT MAKE IT TO ELECTION DAY... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yo! posted Message 6512 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:30:30 Subject: Re: If Manzo gets elected the Mafia will be in charge. : We can make you da offas youse cant refuse. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Guido posted Message 6513 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:33:06 Subject: Re: If Manzo gets elected the Mafia will be in charge. Yeah split your head open if you touch my signs. : : We can make you da offas youse cant refuse. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TRUE posted Message 6514 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:36:58 Subject: Where are all the people that got Glenn elected? We all know the City went in the right direction when Glenn was alive. Let's keep the vision rolling. Willie really worked with Glenn and represented him when he was absent. So who is the true voice? We all know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Same ol Same ol posted Message 6515 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:40:57 Subject: Re: Where are all the people that got Glenn elected? If Willie is such a true voice how come Glenn didn't make the candidate for the Assembly seat instead of Lou Manzo ? : We all know the City went in the right direction when Glenn was alive. Let's keep the vision rolling. Willie really worked with Glenn and represented him when he was absent. So who is the true voice? We all know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter posted Message 6516 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:45:14 Subject: Re: Where are all the people that got Glenn elected? If you would do your homework. She had just had surgery. Idiot!! : If Willie is such a true voice how come Glenn didn't make the : candidate for the Assembly seat instead of Lou Manzo ? : : We all know the City went in the right direction when Glenn was alive. Let's keep the vision rolling. Willie really worked with Glenn and represented him when he was absent. So who is the true voice? We all know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter posted Message 6517 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:48:50 Subject: Don't forget she got over 10000 votes in ward F alone. Plus she was going to retire. But since Glenn passed it's the right thing to do, because people need help. And those other dirtbag candidates aren't going to do that. But Willie will. ( no pun) : If you would do your homework. She had just had surgery. Idiot!! : : : If Willie is such a true voice how come Glenn didn't make the : : candidate for the Assembly seat instead of Lou Manzo ? : : : : We all know the City went in the right direction when Glenn was alive. Let's keep the vision rolling. Willie really worked with Glenn and represented him when he was absent. So who is the true voice? We all know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** EVIL posted Message 6518 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:52:53 Subject: Who has a convict brother and campaign manager? That just goes to show who wants to run the city!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter is an idiot posted Message 6519 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:53:23 Subject: Re: Where are all the people that got Glenn elected? If you would have done your homework you would have known she ran for county clerk and got her azz kicked. Oh I forgot if you have surgery you can't run for Assembly . DA. : If you would do your homework. She had just had surgery. Idiot!! : : : If Willie is such a true voice how come Glenn didn't make the : : candidate for the Assembly seat instead of Lou Manzo ? : : : : We all know the City went in the right direction when Glenn was alive. Let's keep the vision rolling. Willie really worked with Glenn and represented him when he was absent. So who is the true voice? We all know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Whatever MAN posted Message 6520 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 13:57:34 Subject: Say what U want she WILL be MAYOR!!! True . But we didn't intend to win. We needed to make a stand which we did. It's hard sometimes when you are playing against the DEVIL and his DEMONS. : : If you would have done your homework you would have known she ran for county clerk and got her azz kicked. Oh I forgot if you have surgery you can't run for Assembly . DA. : : If you would do your homework. She had just had surgery. Idiot!! : : : : : : If Willie is such a true voice how come Glenn didn't make the : : : candidate for the Assembly seat instead of Lou Manzo ? : : : : : : We all know the City went in the right direction when Glenn was alive. Let's keep the vision rolling. Willie really worked with Glenn and represented him when he was absent. So who is the true voice? We all know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter is an idiot posted Message 6521 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 14:18:49 Subject: Re: Say what U want she WILL be MAYOR!!! Same in this case, you will intend to run only to make a stand and lose. Cardwell & Jackson will run all the way to the bank and will probably cut a deal with another canidate in May 2005. : True . But we didn't intend to win. We needed to make a stand which we did. It's hard sometimes when you are playing against the DEVIL and his DEMONS. : : : : : If you would have done your homework you would have known she ran for county clerk and got her azz kicked. Oh I forgot if you have surgery you can't run for Assembly . DA. : : : If you would do your homework. She had just had surgery. Idiot!! : : : : : : : : : If Willie is such a true voice how come Glenn didn't make the : : : : candidate for the Assembly seat instead of Lou Manzo ? : : : : : : : : We all know the City went in the right direction when Glenn was alive. Let's keep the vision rolling. Willie really worked with Glenn and represented him when he was absent. So who is the true voice? We all know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBK is a SICK F-ck posted Message 6522 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 14:24:08 Subject: Re: HEALY IN POOR HEALTH You are s sick Bastard. : HEALY MAY NOT MAKE IT TO ELECTION DAY... ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're right Chakotay posted Message 6523 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 14:30:05 Subject: Re: Reality Check Despite the fact that Willie is a nice person, she has never learned to stand up to bullies like Cardwell and Jackson. These two are money-hungry morons and are using her for their own purpose of getting contracts. Willie will turn over the keys to the kingdom to a couple of the most notorious ripoffs around. A vote for Willie is a vote for higher taxes and the slow downfall of our city. Wake up people.... : Willie Flood is the candidate of Joe Cardwell and Bobby Jackson. They stand to make millions if she is elected. She is nothing but an empty-headed puppet for these two venal racists. : Willie will gladly take the crumbs these two will hand her. Don't be fooled Jersey City. Make sure Jackson and Cardwell aren't returned to power. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6524 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:06:13 Subject: Healy will win big As long as all the blacks stay home and all the hispanics come out. Degise and Gaughan will take care of the white vote. Manzo ain't got a chance.HEALY IN NOV04 and MAY05 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Drink! posted Message 6525 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:06:27 Subject: Let's Buy Him In the event Jerry doesn't make it to election day let's take a collection for Jerry so his tab at the Astor will be taken care of until? : HEALY MAY NOT MAKE IT TO ELECTION DAY... ***************** End Of Article ****************** The next best thing to Sex posted Message 6526 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:09:22 Subject: Re: A Plus to be free from Menendez & Kenny The only thing better than flushing Menendez and Kenny down the toilet bowl is sex. : There may be hope yet for us. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let's see how stupid he really is posted Message 6527 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:12:08 Subject: Ron the Dope Will Ron Perjure himself this week? Will he be getting a orange jumpsuit? Stay tuned munchkins! : The only dope that was found was Lou Mazo and Jerry McScam! ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6528 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:15:04 Subject: Cunningham would have lost this time anyway Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** all the drunken white vote posted Message 6529 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:16:54 Subject: Gaughan and DeGise will get Yeah! Gaughan and DeGise will get all the drunken white vote, that is if they can pull themselves away from the bar and could actually find a polling place, but then how will they be able to see the ballot? Problem, BIG PROBLEM. Maybe Menendez and Kenny can chauffer them around? At least it would give these two losers something to do. : As long as all the blacks stay home and all the hispanics come out. Degise and Gaughan will take care of the white vote. Manzo ain't got a chance.HEALY IN NOV04 and MAY05 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Real Evil posted Message 6530 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:21:36 Subject: Re: Who has a convict brother and campaign manager? :: And who has a couple of nasty drunks & the convict campaign managers protege running his show? : That just goes to show who wants to run the city!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou Will Slide In posted Message 6531 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:22:08 Subject: Vote Prediction Manzo will get 18,000 votes, Harvey will get 11,000, and Healy will get 8,500, that's with the DeGise operatives trying to double count the Healy vote. The rest of the field is just a rounding error. : Manzo holds an 8 point lead over Healy... The rest of the other candidates don't even show up. An 8 point lead with 5 weeks to go, Manzo will win easy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted Message 6532 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:23:26 Subject: Re: Healy will win big JIMMY BABY! PLEASE COME HOME. AND DONT BRING ANYMORE MANZO SIGNS WITH YOU. : As long as all the blacks stay home and all the hispanics come out. Degise and Gaughan will take care of the white vote. Manzo ain't got a chance.HEALY IN NOV04 and MAY05 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor posted Message 6533 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:26:44 Subject: P r o z a c! They let u out of your straightjacket? : As long as all the blacks stay home and all the hispanics come out. Degise and Gaughan will take care of the white vote. Manzo ain't got a chance.HEALY IN NOV04 and MAY05 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor posted Message 6534 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:28:29 Subject: I thought this nut was in a straightjacket in meadowview. Someone please call 9-1-1. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ya think? posted Message 6535 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:28:44 Subject: Re: Cunningham would have lost this time anyway ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Exact posted Message 6536 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:29:09 Subject: the vote total Manzo 15,000 Healy 12,000 Smith 7,500 Flood 5,000 : Manzo will get 18,000 votes, Harvey will get 11,000, and Healy will get 8,500, that's with the DeGise operatives trying to double count the Healy vote. The rest of the field is just a rounding error. : : Manzo holds an 8 point lead over Healy... The rest of the other candidates don't even show up. An 8 point lead with 5 weeks to go, Manzo will win easy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good posted Message 6537 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:30:50 Subject: That's why i'm voting for Willie! That's right!! At least she's not a greedy schmuck crook. : :: And who has a couple of nasty drunks & the convict campaign managers protege running his show? : : That just goes to show who wants to run the city!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** His Assembly Victory posted Message 6538 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:31:43 Subject: Lou will repeat Lou will win like he did last year in the Assembly race over Fat Joe, the Menendez/DeGise candidate. Menendez is hated in JC, and his lackey DeGise didn;t even win JC when he ran for County Exec. Too bad Menendex can't get North Hudson to vote for JC Mayor, that's the only way his stooge Healy will get elected. Too Bad Bobby, try being a Congressmen, maybe you'll like it? : WOW!! LATEST MANZO POLL HAS HEALY LEADING THEY TRIED TO KEEP IT A SECRET BUT MERRY GERRY SPILLED THE BEANS ATER A FEW SNORTS. : MANZO SUPPORTERS ARE SAYING LOU HAS PEAKED AS HE ALWAYS DID EARLY IN THE CAMPEIGN.AND HEALY IS MOVING SLOWLY BUT SURELY : TO THE FRONT. THAT IS WHY MANZO CAMP IS ATTACKING HEALYS SIGNS : BECAYSE THE KNOW HE IS THE ONE TO BEAT. : HARVEY SMITH IS ALSO MOVING AT A STEADY PACE. : LOU MAY FINISH THIRD. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6539 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:32:43 Subject: Re: That's why i'm voting for Willie! Willie Flood, he's alright. NOT! Willie can't think for himself. Don't waste your time coming out to vote for this loser. STAY HOME! : That's right!! At least she's not a greedy schmuck crook. : : :: And who has a couple of nasty drunks & the convict campaign managers protege running his show? : : : That just goes to show who wants to run the city!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** But uh.... posted Message 6540 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:33:49 Subject: Re: That's why i'm voting for Willie! :::Cardwell and Jackson are. : That's right!! At least she's not a greedy schmuck crook. : : :: And who has a couple of nasty drunks & the convict campaign managers protege running his show? : : : That just goes to show who wants to run the city!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6541 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:34:27 Subject: Looney Lou Maybe Danny McMann could give you a hand(JOB) in this election too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMYYYYY posted Message 6542 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:36:26 Subject: Re: Joiky Jimmy : Maybe Danny McMann could play with my slim jim ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6543 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:40:35 Subject: Re: Looney Lou All Manzo has is a picture of Jerry Healy having a seizure...Thats not going get him elected. Plus he is gay. : Maybe Danny McMann could give you a hand(JOB) in this election too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Against all odds posted Message 6544 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:40:38 Subject: 6 to 1? Damn I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Come on. posted Message 6545 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 15:45:08 Subject: She's running for Mayor not them. Bobby and Joe are residents of this City and they deserve the same chance everybody has. They have helped alot of people too. But you don't look at that though. Not to mention they are supporters of economy by keeping their buisnesses in Jersey City. : :::Cardwell and Jackson are. : : That's right!! At least she's not a greedy schmuck crook. : : : : :: And who has a couple of nasty drunks & the convict campaign managers protege running his show? : : : : That just goes to show who wants to run the city!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYYY posted Message 6546 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 16:00:26 Subject: Re: Looney Lou : All Manzo has is a picture of Jerry Healy having a seizure (I bet you thought he was dancing). The fact that hes as naked as a Jay bird with a little worm means nutin honey...Thats not going get him elected. Plus Jerry is gay too. : : Maybe Danny McMann could give you a hand(JOB) in this election too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Doctor posted Message 6547 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 16:12:06 Subject: Drayton, Jackson, Caldwell...killed Glenn Glenn was overweight, out of shape, ate lousy, never exercized, was run ragged by "the brothers" and you say racists killed him? Get a clue. His own people killed him. His Chief of Staff put him in a blood feud with Menendez....that killed him. No one spoke up and told him to take it a little easier....that killed him. No one around him cared about him...only what they could get from him. So take your racist conspiracy theories and shove em. : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6548 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 16:28:59 Subject: His crazy wife killed him He was all of the following because his wife wanted him out of the picture...enter Gene Drayton to lay the pipe to Sandy. : Glenn was overweight, out of shape, ate lousy, never exercized, was run ragged by "the brothers" and you say racists killed him? Get a clue. His own people killed him. His Chief of Staff put him in a blood feud with Menendez....that killed him. No one spoke up and told him to take it a little easier....that killed him. No one around him cared about him...only what they could get from him. So take your racist conspiracy theories and shove em. : : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Independant Voter posted Message 6549 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 16:32:32 Subject: What's Worse? Gay or Drunk After looking at a number of posts on this board, it seems that the: 1. Manzo Supporters claim Healy is a degenerate drunk 2. Healy supporters claim Manzo is Gay I don't know if either claim is true, but assuming both are, than who should I vote for? Being gay has to do with one's sexual preference, since the person getting elected is going to govern, not have sex I really don't care if a candidate is gay. I just care how well he will govern. There is no scientific link correlating being gay and low intelligence. Alcoholism on the other hand is a degenerative disease that if not checked in time is life threathening. In addition, while in the drunken state one's faculties are seriously impared. Judgement and rationale thinking and acting are seriously compromised. So, would I want a drunk over a gay for Mayor? No freakin way! I'll take the gay guy, what's his name? Manzo? Yeah! I'am going to vote for Manzo. ANd those that want to support a drunk for Mayor? Shame on you. Do you think serious voters wouldn;t be suspecious of anyone promoting a drunk as a serious candidate? ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know posted Message 6550 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 16:42:00 Subject: Whoooo! Someones upset!!( Its a matter of time!!!) Whatever! I know what happened. You racist, cracker a$$, redneck, scum bag ,schmuck ,piece of $hit!! : Glenn was overweight, out of shape, ate lousy, never exercized, was run ragged by "the brothers" and you say racists killed him? Get a clue. His own people killed him. His Chief of Staff put him in a blood feud with Menendez....that killed him. No one spoke up and told him to take it a little easier....that killed him. No one around him cared about him...only what they could get from him. So take your racist conspiracy theories and shove em. : : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Follow Glenns Lead posted Message 6551 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 16:43:00 Subject: Black Voters Should The late great Mayor Glenn teamed up with Lou Manzo last year and they both defeated the corrupt DeGise/Menendez organized crime outfit. If Glenn could endorse someone don't you think he would go with his patner-in-victory Lou Manzo? Lou has the best shot to defeatt Menendez and if the Black voters got behind Lou to seal his victory, they would share postions of power in a Manzo administration. By splitting their vote (Bonocoure, Flood, SMith) their coinage will be worth a lot less in a Manzo administration. If Healy gets elected? Forgetaboutit! : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know posted Message 6552 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 16:43:18 Subject: Re: Drayton, Jackson, Caldwell...killed Glenn Oh yeah Doctors can be bought 2! Sandoval?? : Glenn was overweight, out of shape, ate lousy, never exercized, was run ragged by "the brothers" and you say racists killed him? Get a clue. His own people killed him. His Chief of Staff put him in a blood feud with Menendez....that killed him. No one spoke up and told him to take it a little easier....that killed him. No one around him cared about him...only what they could get from him. So take your racist conspiracy theories and shove em. : : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Double Check Your Logic posted Message 6553 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 17:00:35 Subject: Re: What's Worse? Gay or Drunk Our Governor turned out to be Gay and in the closet... Just like Manzo. And he got blackmailed... which may be a possibility with Manzo. If Manzo can't come to grips with his own sexuality and be up front about it, then how can we trust him to run our city? On the other hand... its all rumor about Healy being a drunk. Sure he drinks just like most of us in this town do. Pubs and bars are our rumor mills, and gathering places. So hanging out in a bar doesn't mean you're a drunk. As for Healy...there are no arrests for DWI, no stumbling drunk episodes, just Manzo's people throwing around a bunch of rumors. I think Manzo has run a dirty campaign. He tears signs off people's homes. He throws around rumors which he can't prove. And he hires felons to run his campaign. So would I vote for a guy who gets ideas from a felon...or a guy who may tip on back now and then? I think on balance, Healy gets my respect and my vote over Manzo. : After looking at a number of posts on this board, it seems that the: : 1. Manzo Supporters claim Healy is a degenerate drunk : 2. Healy supporters claim Manzo is Gay : I don't know if either claim is true, but assuming both are, than who should I vote for? : Being gay has to do with one's sexual preference, since the person getting elected is going to govern, not have sex I really don't care if a candidate is gay. I just care how well he will govern. There is no scientific link correlating being gay and low intelligence. : Alcoholism on the other hand is a degenerative disease that if not checked in time is life threathening. In addition, while in the drunken state one's faculties are seriously impared. Judgement and rationale thinking and acting are seriously compromised. So, would I want a drunk over a gay for Mayor? No freakin way! I'll take the gay guy, what's his name? Manzo? : Yeah! I'am going to vote for Manzo. : ANd those that want to support a drunk for Mayor? Shame on you. Do you think serious voters wouldn;t be suspecious of anyone promoting a drunk as a serious candidate? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Man posted Message 6554 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 17:31:47 Subject: Re: Black Voters Should Vote for Willie Flood How the hell can you tell us what to do white boy? This another typical whiteboy trick to fool the black voters. This ain't slavery days get behind the massa. This is 2004 we need to stand up and be counted people. We can win this election in ward f alone. Remember!!!! : The late great Mayor Glenn teamed up with Lou Manzo last year and they both defeated the corrupt DeGise/Menendez organized crime outfit. If Glenn could endorse someone don't you think he would go with his patner-in-victory Lou Manzo? : Lou has the best shot to defeatt Menendez and if the Black voters got behind Lou to seal his victory, they would share postions of power in a Manzo administration. : By splitting their vote (Bonocoure, Flood, SMith) their coinage will be worth a lot less in a Manzo administration. : If Healy gets elected? Forgetaboutit! : : : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lookin at a Low Life ... posted Message 6555 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 17:48:25 Subject: Go crawl under a rock you don't know Sh-t : Whatever! I know what happened. You racist, cracker a$$, redneck, scum bag ,schmuck ,piece of $hit!! : : Glenn was overweight, out of shape, ate lousy, never exercized, was run ragged by "the brothers" and you say racists killed him? Get a clue. His own people killed him. His Chief of Staff put him in a blood feud with Menendez....that killed him. No one spoke up and told him to take it a little easier....that killed him. No one around him cared about him...only what they could get from him. So take your racist conspiracy theories and shove em. : : : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : : : : : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou's a Louser posted Message 6556 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 17:51:00 Subject: Lou ain't done a damn thing for us Just cause Lou ran with the brother Glenn doesn't mean he's our friend. He aint' done a damn thing for us. Not a job, not a new affordable apartment, nothing. Lou is out for Lou and anyone who can't see that is f-cking blind. : The late great Mayor Glenn teamed up with Lou Manzo last year and they both defeated the corrupt DeGise/Menendez organized crime outfit. If Glenn could endorse someone don't you think he would go with his patner-in-victory Lou Manzo? : Lou has the best shot to defeatt Menendez and if the Black voters got behind Lou to seal his victory, they would share postions of power in a Manzo administration. : By splitting their vote (Bonocoure, Flood, SMith) their coinage will be worth a lot less in a Manzo administration. : If Healy gets elected? Forgetaboutit! : : : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL.... posted Message 6557 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 17:54:35 Subject: Dolan is such a silly old hag its funny. Dolan is just a nasty biatch. She'd win a skankfest anyday. You tell em Dolan ole gal. The more you talk, the more we know you're a nut case. : Willie Flood, he's alright. NOT! Willie can't think for himself. : Don't waste your time coming out to vote for this loser. STAY HOME! : : That's right!! At least she's not a greedy schmuck crook. : : : : :: And who has a couple of nasty drunks & the convict campaign managers protege running his show? : : : : That just goes to show who wants to run the city!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** 0u812 posted Message 6558 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 18:02:30 Subject: Lou wasn't the mayor Glen was : Just cause Lou ran with the brother Glenn doesn't mean he's our friend. He aint' done a damn thing for us. Not a job, not a new affordable apartment, nothing. Lou is out for Lou and anyone who can't see that is f-cking blind. : : The late great Mayor Glenn teamed up with Lou Manzo last year and they both defeated the corrupt DeGise/Menendez organized crime outfit. If Glenn could endorse someone don't you think he would go with his patner-in-victory Lou Manzo? : : Lou has the best shot to defeatt Menendez and if the Black voters got behind Lou to seal his victory, they would share postions of power in a Manzo administration. : : By splitting their vote (Bonocoure, Flood, SMith) their coinage will be worth a lot less in a Manzo administration. : : If Healy gets elected? Forgetaboutit! : : : : : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : : : : : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stupid person posted Message 6559 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 19:06:18 Subject: Re: Lou ain't done a damn thing for us ::Because of Lou, you "brothas" & "sistas" (personally offensive outdated belittling terms)got our beloved Glenn. Were it not for Lou graciously bringing a good portion of his "peeps" with him after he lost in round 1 you would have had DeGise & his merry band of drunken, homophobic racists. It's not Lou's job to get you a job or a new affordable apartment. Get off your welfare collecting A$$, take advantage of educational courses out there for your betterment, that are also free. You want to know who is truly blind? The likes of you. It is not the government's job to provide for you. If that is what you want, go find a communist, facist or socialist county. You are the type who is still bound by the chains of slavery...in your head. You disgrace those who strive for true equality & freedom. : Just cause Lou ran with the brother Glenn doesn't mean he's our friend. He aint' done a damn thing for us. Not a job, not a new affordable apartment, nothing. Lou is out for Lou and anyone who can't see that is f-cking blind. : : The late great Mayor Glenn teamed up with Lou Manzo last year and they both defeated the corrupt DeGise/Menendez organized crime outfit. If Glenn could endorse someone don't you think he would go with his patner-in-victory Lou Manzo? : : Lou has the best shot to defeatt Menendez and if the Black voters got behind Lou to seal his victory, they would share postions of power in a Manzo administration. : : By splitting their vote (Bonocoure, Flood, SMith) their coinage will be worth a lot less in a Manzo administration. : : If Healy gets elected? Forgetaboutit! : : : : : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : : : : : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou's a Loser posted Message 6560 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 19:11:20 Subject: Re: Lou ain't done a damn thing for us Tell Lou to go visit his criminal "brotha" in the lockup where he's headed. The whole family are a bunch of crooks. And for your information...I got a job. I got a home. But there are a lot of folk in my community that don't. And your pal Lou hasn't done a thing to help. He's gonna lose again. And then his Assembly seat is next. So go find your sorryass self a job. : ::Because of Lou, you "brothas" & "sistas" (personally offensive outdated belittling terms)got our beloved Glenn. Were it not for Lou graciously bringing a good portion of his "peeps" with him after he lost in round 1 you would have had DeGise & his merry band of drunken, homophobic racists. : It's not Lou's job to get you a job or a new affordable apartment. Get off your welfare collecting A$$, take advantage of educational courses out there for your betterment, that are also free. : You want to know who is truly blind? The likes of you. It is not the government's job to provide for you. If that is what you want, go find a communist, facist or socialist county. You are the type who is still bound by the chains of slavery...in your head. You disgrace those who strive for true equality & freedom. : : Just cause Lou ran with the brother Glenn doesn't mean he's our friend. He aint' done a damn thing for us. Not a job, not a new affordable apartment, nothing. Lou is out for Lou and anyone who can't see that is f-cking blind. : : : The late great Mayor Glenn teamed up with Lou Manzo last year and they both defeated the corrupt DeGise/Menendez organized crime outfit. If Glenn could endorse someone don't you think he would go with his patner-in-victory Lou Manzo? : : : Lou has the best shot to defeatt Menendez and if the Black voters got behind Lou to seal his victory, they would share postions of power in a Manzo administration. : : : By splitting their vote (Bonocoure, Flood, SMith) their coinage will be worth a lot less in a Manzo administration. : : : If Healy gets elected? Forgetaboutit! : : : : : : : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : : : : : : : : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : : : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6561 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 19:25:20 Subject: Re: Lou ain't done a damn thing for us All you Homeboys...Just stay home. Flood Smith & Manzo can't win so don't waste your time or vote. Peace out my brotha's. : Tell Lou to go visit his criminal "brotha" in the lockup where he's headed. The whole family are a bunch of crooks. And for your information...I got a job. I got a home. But there are a lot of folk in my community that don't. And your pal Lou hasn't done a thing to help. He's gonna lose again. And then his Assembly seat is next. So go find your sorryass self a job. : : ::Because of Lou, you "brothas" & "sistas" (personally offensive outdated belittling terms)got our beloved Glenn. Were it not for Lou graciously bringing a good portion of his "peeps" with him after he lost in round 1 you would have had DeGise & his merry band of drunken, homophobic racists. : : It's not Lou's job to get you a job or a new affordable apartment. Get off your welfare collecting A$$, take advantage of educational courses out there for your betterment, that are also free. : : You want to know who is truly blind? The likes of you. It is not the government's job to provide for you. If that is what you want, go find a communist, facist or socialist county. You are the type who is still bound by the chains of slavery...in your head. You disgrace those who strive for true equality & freedom. : : : Just cause Lou ran with the brother Glenn doesn't mean he's our friend. He aint' done a damn thing for us. Not a job, not a new affordable apartment, nothing. Lou is out for Lou and anyone who can't see that is f-cking blind. : : : : The late great Mayor Glenn teamed up with Lou Manzo last year and they both defeated the corrupt DeGise/Menendez organized crime outfit. If Glenn could endorse someone don't you think he would go with his patner-in-victory Lou Manzo? : : : : Lou has the best shot to defeatt Menendez and if the Black voters got behind Lou to seal his victory, they would share postions of power in a Manzo administration. : : : : By splitting their vote (Bonocoure, Flood, SMith) their coinage will be worth a lot less in a Manzo administration. : : : : If Healy gets elected? Forgetaboutit! : : : : : : : : : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : : : : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : : : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : : : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GIVE ME A BREAK posted Message 6562 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 19:29:21 Subject: Re: What's Worse? Gay or Drunk :::MANZO CANT BE BLACKMAILED BY BEING GAY. IF HE IS, ITS NO SECRET, ALL THE HEALY GARBAGE HAS DECIDED TO OUT HIM. NOW AS FOR DIRTY CAMPAIGNS - HOWZA ABOUT JIMMY DICKson RIPPING DOWN MANZO SIGNS IN FRONT OF EVERYONE, PUTTING THEM IN THE BACK OF COUNTY SUV #2 THAT HE IS DRIVING ON A SUSPENDED LICENSE? HOWZA ABOUT A CERTAIN IDIOT WHO CANT PASS A POLICE TEST DOING THE SAME IN FRONT OF A MANZO CREW AND TELLING THEM TO GO UCK-FAY THEMSELVES? HOWZA ABOUT COUNTY EXEC DEGISE TELLING A PARTY FAITHFUL THAT THE PLAN IS TO FIND OUT WHERE "THEY" ARE WALKING, FOLLOW THEM, RIP DOWN THEIR SIGNS, AND PUT UP OURS? HOWZA ABOUT THE GUY WHO HEARS A NOISE OUTSIDE HIS HOUSE LATE ONE NITE TO FIND 2 GUYS PUTTING A MANZO SIGN ON HIS HOUSE - ONLY PROBLEM, HE KNOWS ALL THE MANZO PEOPLE IN THE AREA AND THESE 2 CLOWNS WEREN'T ANY OF THEM. HOWZA ABOUT THE INFAMOUS PICTURE, SEEN, OF A CANDIDATE IN HIS BIRTHDAY SUIT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO ON ABOUT DIRTY? HEALY, WHO FAVORS DRINKING AT THE ASTOR, MAY BE A NICE GUY, BUT THE BAGGAGE HE WILL BRING WITH HIM IS THE LOWEST OF THE LOW. : Our Governor turned out to be Gay and in the closet... Just like Manzo. And he got blackmailed... which may be a possibility with Manzo. If Manzo can't come to grips with his own sexuality and be up front about it, then how can we trust him to run our city? : On the other hand... its all rumor about Healy being a drunk. Sure he drinks just like most of us in this town do. Pubs and bars are our rumor mills, and gathering places. So hanging out in a bar doesn't mean you're a drunk. As for Healy...there are no arrests for DWI, no stumbling drunk episodes, just Manzo's people throwing around a bunch of rumors. : I think Manzo has run a dirty campaign. He tears signs off people's homes. He throws around rumors which he can't prove. And he hires felons to run his campaign. So would I vote for a guy who gets ideas from a felon...or a guy who may tip on back now and then? I think on balance, Healy gets my respect and my vote over Manzo. : : After looking at a number of posts on this board, it seems that the: : : 1. Manzo Supporters claim Healy is a degenerate drunk : : 2. Healy supporters claim Manzo is Gay : : I don't know if either claim is true, but assuming both are, than who should I vote for? : : Being gay has to do with one's sexual preference, since the person getting elected is going to govern, not have sex I really don't care if a candidate is gay. I just care how well he will govern. There is no scientific link correlating being gay and low intelligence. : : Alcoholism on the other hand is a degenerative disease that if not checked in time is life threathening. In addition, while in the drunken state one's faculties are seriously impared. Judgement and rationale thinking and acting are seriously compromised. So, would I want a drunk over a gay for Mayor? No freakin way! I'll take the gay guy, what's his name? Manzo? : : Yeah! I'am going to vote for Manzo. : : ANd those that want to support a drunk for Mayor? Shame on you. Do you think serious voters wouldn;t be suspecious of anyone promoting a drunk as a serious candidate? ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 6563 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 20:08:32 Subject: Re: Lou ain't done a damn thing for us :::I'm waitin' for ya baby!!! : All you Homeboys...Just stay home. Flood Smith & Manzo can't win so don't waste your time or vote. Peace out my brotha's. : : : Tell Lou to go visit his criminal "brotha" in the lockup where he's headed. The whole family are a bunch of crooks. And for your information...I got a job. I got a home. But there are a lot of folk in my community that don't. And your pal Lou hasn't done a thing to help. He's gonna lose again. And then his Assembly seat is next. So go find your sorryass self a job. : : : ::Because of Lou, you "brothas" & "sistas" (personally offensive outdated belittling terms)got our beloved Glenn. Were it not for Lou graciously bringing a good portion of his "peeps" with him after he lost in round 1 you would have had DeGise & his merry band of drunken, homophobic racists. : : : It's not Lou's job to get you a job or a new affordable apartment. Get off your welfare collecting A$$, take advantage of educational courses out there for your betterment, that are also free. : : : You want to know who is truly blind? The likes of you. It is not the government's job to provide for you. If that is what you want, go find a communist, facist or socialist county. You are the type who is still bound by the chains of slavery...in your head. You disgrace those who strive for true equality & freedom. : : : : Just cause Lou ran with the brother Glenn doesn't mean he's our friend. He aint' done a damn thing for us. Not a job, not a new affordable apartment, nothing. Lou is out for Lou and anyone who can't see that is f-cking blind. : : : : : The late great Mayor Glenn teamed up with Lou Manzo last year and they both defeated the corrupt DeGise/Menendez organized crime outfit. If Glenn could endorse someone don't you think he would go with his patner-in-victory Lou Manzo? : : : : : Lou has the best shot to defeatt Menendez and if the Black voters got behind Lou to seal his victory, they would share postions of power in a Manzo administration. : : : : : By splitting their vote (Bonocoure, Flood, SMith) their coinage will be worth a lot less in a Manzo administration. : : : : : If Healy gets elected? Forgetaboutit! : : : : : : : : : : : I smell threat and fear. Simple as that. They feared the truth. That's why those racist bastards killed him!! : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : ::Great post Jimmy. Did daddy in law tell you it was ok to show your racist colors? I hope Im around to see the day your lilly white butt is in the sling. : : : : : : : 4 Whites and 2 Hispanics together to beat our dear Glenn? What a bunch of losers. : : : : : : : : Willie (nicest guy in town) and Uncle Harvey should drop out. : : : : : : : : No soul brothers will win another mayoral seat EVER! The WHITES AND HISPANICS run this city. Healy Degise Gaughan Brennan Maldonado and Vega can't be beat. These guys together would have beaten Glenn Cunningham soundly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6564 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 21:05:34 Subject: Willie in my mail box Came home from work today and found Willie Flood's face in my mailbox. From all the posts on this board, you'd have to presume Willie is as pure as the driven snow. Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Doesn't sound right does it ? Bwahahahahahahahaha !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL ISNT THAT SOME SORT OF MAIL FRAUD.? posted Message 6565 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 21:25:33 Subject: Re: Willie in my mail box : Came home from work today and found Willie Flood's face in my mailbox. : From all the posts on this board, you'd have to presume Willie is as pure as the driven snow. : Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. : Doesn't sound right does it ? : Bwahahahahahahahaha !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 6566 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 21:30:06 Subject: MY MISTAKE : : He dont live here, he dont vote here, he is a bully and not like even a real cop. : Talk about Gerry! : We should call this guy Con Buonocore. Rich Freda aka;; Degenarate gambler is in lock down scrubin toilets 4 acting director JOHN ROSS at route 440 aka D.P.W. how are the knee's now RICH your next PRONTI ;;;;;;;;;;;; MORE TO FOLLOW C U SOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNN ***************** End Of Article ****************** weno posted Message 6567 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 22:13:36 Subject: Re: Is Jimmy DICKson Hiding ????? : : : : : : : : Where is big mouth Jimmy DICKson??\ : : : : : I hear he is playing second fiddle to his father in law the chief of staph. He has to or he will find himself not being able to drive county vehicles on a suspended license and sleeping on benches again : : : : : I AM NOT SCARED I LIVE @972 SUMMIT AVE MY CELL IS 2013203729 IAM HERE FOR GOOD GOV'T IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ME ON HERE I AM : : ::::do the words "restraining order" mean anything to you tough guy? Your mother knows what they mean. : weno; come out and ID yourself then we will talk Tomorrow night, Chances, around 9pm ***************** End Of Article ****************** jingle23 posted Message 6568 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 22:27:28 Subject: HEALY TAKES THE LEAD. (SMITH POLL) JERRY HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD AS EXPECTED THIS ACCORDING TO SMITHS POLL TAKEN THIS WEEK LOU MANZO IS SECOND 7 POINTS BEHIND JERRY. AND HARVEY A CLOSE THIRD. LIPSKI NOT ON RADAR SCREEN. RONNIE MAY LEAVE ON WEDNESDAY AND SUPPORT THE LEADER.BUT NOT WITHOUT DISCREDITING MCCANN & LOUIE MANZO. SEE HIS MAILING. LOTS OF FELONS WITH LOUIE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jeff Jensen posted Message 6569 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 23:21:23 Subject: Re: The other part of the story is that Sandra Cunningham will endorse Ronald Buonocore for Mayor. Cache: A very expensive part of the memory system of a computer that no one is supposed to know is there. cialis He jests at scars who never felt a wound. -- Shakespeare, "Romeo and Juliet, II. 2" buy cialis ***************** End Of Article ****************** Oh! That was Healy Watering Flowers in Bradley Beach! posted Message 6570 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 23:31:00 Subject: No Stumbling Drunk Episodes? How about the citations Healy got for urinating on the Streets in Bradley Beach this summer? Was he so drunk and lazy that he couldn't find a bathroom? Pretty sad for someone who wants to be Mayor doing juvinile things like that! And Healy's got your respect? You need to go to self esteem classes. Sad, very Sad. : :::MANZO CANT BE BLACKMAILED BY BEING GAY. IF HE IS, ITS NO SECRET, ALL THE HEALY GARBAGE HAS DECIDED TO OUT HIM. NOW AS FOR DIRTY CAMPAIGNS - HOWZA ABOUT JIMMY DICKson RIPPING DOWN MANZO SIGNS IN FRONT OF EVERYONE, PUTTING THEM IN THE BACK OF COUNTY SUV #2 THAT HE IS DRIVING ON A SUSPENDED LICENSE? HOWZA ABOUT A CERTAIN IDIOT WHO CANT PASS A POLICE TEST DOING THE SAME IN FRONT OF A MANZO CREW AND TELLING THEM TO GO UCK-FAY THEMSELVES? HOWZA ABOUT COUNTY EXEC DEGISE TELLING A PARTY FAITHFUL THAT THE PLAN IS TO FIND OUT WHERE "THEY" ARE WALKING, FOLLOW THEM, RIP DOWN THEIR SIGNS, AND PUT UP OURS? HOWZA ABOUT THE GUY WHO HEARS A NOISE OUTSIDE HIS HOUSE LATE ONE NITE TO FIND 2 GUYS PUTTING A MANZO SIGN ON HIS HOUSE - ONLY PROBLEM, HE KNOWS ALL THE MANZO PEOPLE IN THE AREA AND THESE 2 CLOWNS WEREN'T ANY OF THEM. HOWZA ABOUT THE INFAMOUS PICTURE, SEEN, OF A CANDIDATE IN HIS BIRTHDAY SUIT? : WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO ON ABOUT DIRTY? : HEALY, WHO FAVORS DRINKING AT THE ASTOR, MAY BE A NICE GUY, BUT THE BAGGAGE HE WILL BRING WITH HIM IS THE LOWEST OF THE LOW. : : Our Governor turned out to be Gay and in the closet... Just like Manzo. And he got blackmailed... which may be a possibility with Manzo. If Manzo can't come to grips with his own sexuality and be up front about it, then how can we trust him to run our city? : : On the other hand... its all rumor about Healy being a drunk. Sure he drinks just like most of us in this town do. Pubs and bars are our rumor mills, and gathering places. So hanging out in a bar doesn't mean you're a drunk. As for Healy...there are no arrests for DWI, no stumbling drunk episodes, just Manzo's people throwing around a bunch of rumors. : : I think Manzo has run a dirty campaign. He tears signs off people's homes. He throws around rumors which he can't prove. And he hires felons to run his campaign. So would I vote for a guy who gets ideas from a felon...or a guy who may tip on back now and then? I think on balance, Healy gets my respect and my vote over Manzo. : : : After looking at a number of posts on this board, it seems that the: : : : 1. Manzo Supporters claim Healy is a degenerate drunk : : : 2. Healy supporters claim Manzo is Gay : : : I don't know if either claim is true, but assuming both are, than who should I vote for? : : : Being gay has to do with one's sexual preference, since the person getting elected is going to govern, not have sex I really don't care if a candidate is gay. I just care how well he will govern. There is no scientific link correlating being gay and low intelligence. : : : Alcoholism on the other hand is a degenerative disease that if not checked in time is life threathening. In addition, while in the drunken state one's faculties are seriously impared. Judgement and rationale thinking and acting are seriously compromised. So, would I want a drunk over a gay for Mayor? No freakin way! I'll take the gay guy, what's his name? Manzo? : : : Yeah! I'am going to vote for Manzo. : : : ANd those that want to support a drunk for Mayor? Shame on you. Do you think serious voters wouldn;t be suspecious of anyone promoting a drunk as a serious candidate? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Will Build Upon His Assembly Victory posted Message 6571 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 27, 2004 at 23:39:44 Subject: Manzo - Repeat on the Way Jerry has passed out as expected. How do you think Healy is even going to get close when he refuses to campaign? : JERRY HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD AS EXPECTED : THIS ACCORDING TO SMITHS POLL TAKEN THIS WEEK : LOU MANZO IS SECOND 7 POINTS BEHIND JERRY. : AND HARVEY A CLOSE THIRD. : LIPSKI NOT ON RADAR SCREEN. RONNIE MAY LEAVE ON WEDNESDAY AND SUPPORT THE LEADER.BUT NOT WITHOUT DISCREDITING MCCANN & LOUIE MANZO. SEE HIS MAILING. LOTS OF FELONS WITH LOUIE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Robert Hauser posted Message 6572 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 00:50:50 Subject: Re: Online Video: Deputy Mayor Eugene Drayton Speaks at the Funeral of Glenn Cunningham Sweet April showers do spring May flowers. -- Thomas Tusser cialis Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. buy cialis ***************** End Of Article ****************** T Willaims posted Message 6573 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 00:53:24 Subject: let me set the record straight......for willie flood I;m a voter, a mother and a hard working women in Jersey city and I could careless about what people are thinking in regards to willie flood she is a women who is looking out for people like me, she has been doingthe past 7 years that I have been in this city and a couple of those times she wasnt even running for office. I know that Acting mayor Smith is not in the mayors office for the people but for himself and to keep SH@# going in city hall, Manzo is a Assemblyman who is not doing anyhting for people I mean he has a list of legislture but yet nothing is being past. Bonncore is really showing the people of jersey he cares.. this MF'er doesn't even live in Jersey city until two months ago and that means that while he is cheif he is taking JC money and running to another city that, spells out criminal and what makes it so bad he is the top of what we call serving and protecting please spare me. and Mrs. Cunningham is lost and absent that she can't see past Gene Draytons Big belly that Ron is a criminal.thats like putting a kkk leader in the mayors office. and judge healy is greedy I mean Doesnt he get enough tax dollors to get drunk off of. I feel like willie flood has the city at heart.I alot of people in this city who will be voting for mrs. flood in Nov. but Mrs. Flood if your reading this which I really dont think so your focused dont give up girl you are the womens only hope in this city we need you to care on this man legacy and make one of your own........ Girl if you lose in Nov. Which I dont think you will but if you do please girl Run in May we need you......... I love you willie and Jersey city Loves you...... You go Girl use the 12 devils as your stepping stone to get to your blessing ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth be told posted Message 6574 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 01:35:13 Subject: What was said and what was heard. Please note they can't even get their last name correct: hmmmm I;m some voter, some moda' and some hard wo'kin' honky chicks in Jersey city and ah' could careless about whut suc ka's is dinkin' in regards t'willie flood she be a honky chicks who be lookin' out fo' suc ka's likes me, she gots been hangin'de past 7 years dat ah' have been in dis city and some couple uh dose times she wuznt even runnin' fo' office. ah' know dat Actin' mayo' Smid be not in de mayo's office fo' de suc ka's but fo' himself and t'keep SH@# goin' in city hall, Manzo be a Assemblyman who be not hangin' anyhtin' fo' suc ka's ah' mean he gots a list uh legislture but yet nodin' be bein' past. Man! Bonnco'e be real showin' de suc ka's uh jersey he cares.. dis MF'a' duzn't even live in Jersey city until two monds ago and dat means dat while he be cheif he be takin' JC bre'd and runnin' t'anoda' city dat, spells out criminal and whut makes it so's baaaad he be de top uh whut we call servin' and protectin' please spare me. and Mrs. Cunnin'ham be lost and absent dat she kin't see past Gene Draytons Big belly dat Rolois some criminal.dats likes puttin' some kkk leada' in de mayo's office. and judge healy be greedy ah' mean Duznt he dig enough tax dollo's t'get drunk off of. ah' feel likes willie flood gots de city at heart. Man!I alot uh suc ka's in dis city who gots'ta be votin' fo' mrs. flood in Nov. Man! but Mrs. Flood if yo' eyeballin' dis which ah' real dont dink so's yo' focused dont cut up goat ya' is de honky chickss only hope in dis city we need ya' t'care on dis joker legacy and make one uh yo' own. 'S coo', bro........ Goat if ya' lose in Nov. Man! Which ah' dont dink ya' gots'ta but if ya' do please goat Run in May we need ya'......... ah' love ya' willie and Jersey city Loves ya'...... You's go Goat use da damn 12 devils as yo' steppin' stone t'get t'yo' blessin' ***************** End Of Article ****************** Libby Joynt posted Message 6575 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 04:01:59 Subject: Re: Healy being used by HCDO Humor in the Court: Q. And who is this person you are speaking of? A. My ex-widow said it. cialis If you have to ask how much it is, you can't afford it. buy cialis ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nell Tileston posted Message 6576 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 04:13:14 Subject: Re: Property Tax Reimbursement Checks Hope is a good breakfast, but it is a bad supper. -- Francis Bacon cialis "Of course power tools and alcohol don't mix. Everyone knows power tools aren't soluble in alcohol..." -- Crazy Nigel buy cialis ***************** End Of Article ****************** jinglejoik posted Message 6577 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 06:29:22 Subject: Re: HEALY TAKES THE LEAD. (SMITH POLL) : JERRY HEALY HASNT TAKEN THE LEAD AS EXPECTED : THIS ACCORDING TO SMITHS POLL TAKEN THIS WEEK : BUT WITH SMITH FLIP FLOPPING LIKE LIPSKI WHO CAN BELIEVE HIM : LOU MANZO IS SECOND 7 POINTS BEHIND NO ONE. : AND HARVEY A CLOSE THIRD IN HIS MIND. : LIPSKI NOT ON RADAR SCREEN DOESNT KNOW WHAT THAT IS. CON BUONOCORE MAY LEAVE ON WEDNESDAY BECAUSE OF ALL THE LYING AND BULLYING HE AND HIS GOON SQUAD HAVE DONE. AND SUPPORT JERRY AND DESTROY HIS CAMPAIGN BY BRINGING SLEAZE LIKE DRAYTON AND SANTANA WITH HIM.BUT HE IS TRYING TO DISCREDIT MCCANN & LOUIE MANZO. SEE HIS MAILING. LOTS OF FELONS WITH LOUIE HE WISHES. THIS FROM AN ALLEGED COP WHO MADE A CAREER OUT OF SITTING HIS FAT A$$ BEHIND A UNION OFFICE DESK. MADE A MESS OF DPW. WAS KNOWN FOR RACIAL PROFILING. PROMOTED AND GAVE PAY RAISES TO ALL HIS CRONIES ON THE FORCE. TRANSFERRED ALL THOSE WHO SHOWED A SPINE. DEMORALIZED THE GUYS ON HIS WATCH. INCREASED CRIME STATS BY HIS INEPTNESS. LIES ABOUT WHERE HE LIVES AND VOTES. LOTS OF ACCOUTABILITY FOR CON BUONOCORE. COME TO THINK OF IT, HES PERFECT FOR THE DREGS OF SOCIETY THAT ARE TEAM HEALY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** It makes me shiver posted Message 6578 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 06:39:25 Subject: Re: let me set the record straight......for willie flood :::Note to Team Flood Please, I implore you, it is so obvious that you have the same person doing your posting it is pathetic. If you think that posting with obvious misspellings, punctuation errors and using whatever language you think you are puts Ms. Flood in a more common man light, you are in error. Ms. Flood is an educated eloquent woman and the postings make it look as if all she can attract is the uneducated, ignorant and mindless. This does not instill confidence in the public at large if this is all that there is. Ms. Flood, please get someone with at least a 1st grade education to make your responses. You deserve at least that much. : I;m a voter, a mother and a hard working women in Jersey city and I could careless about what people are thinking in regards to willie flood she is a women who is looking out for people like me, she has been doingthe past 7 years that I have been in this city and a couple of those times she wasnt even running for office. I know that Acting mayor Smith is not in the mayors office for the people but for himself and to keep SH@# going in city hall, Manzo is a Assemblyman who is not doing anyhting for people I mean he has a list of legislture but yet nothing is being past. Bonncore is really showing the people of jersey he cares.. this MF'er doesn't even live in Jersey city until two months ago and that means that while he is cheif he is taking JC money and running to another city that, spells out criminal and what makes it so bad he is the top of what we call serving and protecting please spare me. and Mrs. Cunningham is lost and absent that she can't see past Gene Draytons Big belly that Ron is a criminal.thats like putting a kkk leader in the mayors office. and judge healy is greedy I mean Doesnt he get enough tax dollors to get drunk off of. I feel like willie flood has the city at heart.I alot of people in this city who will be voting for mrs. flood in Nov. but Mrs. Flood if your reading this which I really dont think so your focused dont give up girl you are the womens only hope in this city we need you to care on this man legacy and make one of your own........ Girl if you lose in Nov. Which I dont think you will but if you do please girl Run in May we need you......... I love you willie and Jersey city Loves you...... You go Girl use the 12 devils as your stepping stone to get to your blessing ***************** End Of Article ****************** Choices, choices.... posted Message 6579 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 07:39:37 Subject: Re: What's Worse? Gay or Drunk I'd rather have gay than drunk any day however, Lou can't have my vote. I'd rather vote for one of the unknown devils than one of the known devils. It may be a wasted vote in some people's opinion, but so far, none of these "usual suspects" impress me. I have issues with all of them...Manzo, Smith, Healy, Flood, Bounocore, Lipsky. Not one of them have worked to create a better Jersey City. When is the first Mayoral debate and can we as the public go and ask questions of all the candidates? Does anyone know??? : After looking at a number of posts on this board, it seems that the: : 1. Manzo Supporters claim Healy is a degenerate drunk : 2. Healy supporters claim Manzo is Gay : I don't know if either claim is true, but assuming both are, than who should I vote for? : Being gay has to do with one's sexual preference, since the person getting elected is going to govern, not have sex I really don't care if a candidate is gay. I just care how well he will govern. There is no scientific link correlating being gay and low intelligence. : Alcoholism on the other hand is a degenerative disease that if not checked in time is life threathening. In addition, while in the drunken state one's faculties are seriously impared. Judgement and rationale thinking and acting are seriously compromised. So, would I want a drunk over a gay for Mayor? No freakin way! I'll take the gay guy, what's his name? Manzo? : Yeah! I'am going to vote for Manzo. : ANd those that want to support a drunk for Mayor? Shame on you. Do you think serious voters wouldn;t be suspecious of anyone promoting a drunk as a serious candidate? ***************** End Of Article ****************** weno posted Message 6580 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 08:10:16 Subject: Re: Is Jimmy DICKson Hiding ????? : : : : : : : : Where is big mouth Jimmy DICKson??\ : : : : : I hear he is playing second fiddle to his father in law the chief of staph. He has to or he will find himself not being able to drive county vehicles on a suspended license and sleeping on benches again : : : : : I AM NOT SCARED I LIVE @972 SUMMIT AVE MY CELL IS 2013203729 IAM HERE FOR GOOD GOV'T IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ME ON HERE I AM : : ::::do the words "restraining order" mean anything to you tough guy? Your mother knows what they mean. : weno; come out and ID yourself then we will talk tonight around nine pm after work , Chances. We'll talk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm a voter too posted Message 6581 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 08:38:01 Subject: Re: let me set the record straight......for willie flood Thank you for the raciest post. It only goes to prove that "Black is Beautiful, tan is grand, but white is the color of an American!" Brought to you by Harvey Smith for Mayor ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo McScam posted Message 6582 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 08:44:15 Subject: Re: HEALY TAKES THE LEAD. (SMITH POLL) What a sorry bunch you McManzo scum are! Full of hate, lies and dishonest acts. You will go down in Jersey City History as the biggest loosers since the New York Mets! There is still plenty of cell space in Kearny and Rahway for you all. Better buy a lot of KY jelly, you will need it in there, just ask McConn! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mad posted Message 6583 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 08:47:34 Subject: Flipski Mobile Steve, how can anyone trust you? Your Ward is one of the worst in the city, you have broken all promises, you change you mind 6 times a day and you want to run an entire city? Next to your photo on the Mobile write this... "What, me worry?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** When you aint got NOTHING posted Message 6584 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 09:04:12 Subject: Re: HEALY TAKES THE LEAD. (SMITH POLL) You result to personal attacks. That's okay what ever makes you feel better snooky. : What a sorry bunch you McManzo scum are! Full of hate, lies and dishonest acts. You will go down in Jersey City History as the biggest loosers since the New York Mets! There is still plenty of cell space in Kearny and Rahway for you all. Better buy a lot of KY jelly, you will need it in there, just ask McConn! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just curious posted Message 6585 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 09:07:22 Subject: Re: Flipski Mobile ::Is something that looks like that bus legally allowed to be on the road? : Steve, how can anyone trust you? Your Ward is one of the worst in the city, you have broken all promises, you change you mind 6 times a day and you want to run an entire city? Next to your photo on the Mobile write this... "What, me worry?" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6586 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 10:05:14 Subject: YES !!! : ::Is something that looks like that bus legally allowed to be on the road? Anthony's orange van is somewhat similar in nature. A rolling eyesore. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6587 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 10:11:39 Subject: 12 Devils Devil worship is so cool. As the songs says " We're on the Highway to Hell " (aka Jersey City) Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 6588 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 10:21:06 Subject: Lou Manzo Lou Manzo = A good A$$ raping for Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6589 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 10:24:24 Subject: Yes. Anything from Willie should come in a plain brown wrapper. ***************** End Of Article ****************** no necks posted Message 6590 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 11:02:50 Subject: Re: If Healy gets elected Deguise and Gaughn will be in charge : Racist rednecks. that's harsh dude! ***************** End Of Article ****************** and he has the gall to run somebody for Mayor posted Message 6591 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 11:15:20 Subject: Gaughan's Ward D is the Lost Weekend With Gaughan, Ward D has turned into the lost weekend. And with that he's trying to foist nature boy on the city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McConn posted Message 6592 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 11:40:55 Subject: McConn on the Stand! Tomorrow: Mr. Mccann, do swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth? McCann "I Do." Lawyer: "Mr McCann, are you a convicted felon?" McCann: "No" Lawyer: "were you ever fined for violating people's right to vote?" McCann "No" Lawyer: "Did you recently throw paint on a car and campaign headquarters?" McCann "No" Lawyer: " did you tresspass on private property and harrass people on the Western Slope?" McCann "No" Lawyer: "If Manzo gets into office, will run actually run the city?" McCann "No" McCann does not beleive in God, the truth, the people, the city. On November 2nd send him the message to get out of town by sundown! ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Bunch of Bull posted Message 6593 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 11:57:04 Subject: You can post lies all you want You can post as many slanderous lies as you Manzo people want to. But no one will believe you anyway. Healy is an honest man. Manzo is a homo in the closet. Easy choice for me to make on election day. : How about the citations Healy got for urinating on the Streets in Bradley Beach this summer? : Was he so drunk and lazy that he couldn't find a bathroom? : Pretty sad for someone who wants to be Mayor doing juvinile things like that! : And Healy's got your respect? You need to go to self esteem classes. Sad, very Sad. : : : :::MANZO CANT BE BLACKMAILED BY BEING GAY. IF HE IS, ITS NO SECRET, ALL THE HEALY GARBAGE HAS DECIDED TO OUT HIM. NOW AS FOR DIRTY CAMPAIGNS - HOWZA ABOUT JIMMY DICKson RIPPING DOWN MANZO SIGNS IN FRONT OF EVERYONE, PUTTING THEM IN THE BACK OF COUNTY SUV #2 THAT HE IS DRIVING ON A SUSPENDED LICENSE? HOWZA ABOUT A CERTAIN IDIOT WHO CANT PASS A POLICE TEST DOING THE SAME IN FRONT OF A MANZO CREW AND TELLING THEM TO GO UCK-FAY THEMSELVES? HOWZA ABOUT COUNTY EXEC DEGISE TELLING A PARTY FAITHFUL THAT THE PLAN IS TO FIND OUT WHERE "THEY" ARE WALKING, FOLLOW THEM, RIP DOWN THEIR SIGNS, AND PUT UP OURS? HOWZA ABOUT THE GUY WHO HEARS A NOISE OUTSIDE HIS HOUSE LATE ONE NITE TO FIND 2 GUYS PUTTING A MANZO SIGN ON HIS HOUSE - ONLY PROBLEM, HE KNOWS ALL THE MANZO PEOPLE IN THE AREA AND THESE 2 CLOWNS WEREN'T ANY OF THEM. HOWZA ABOUT THE INFAMOUS PICTURE, SEEN, OF A CANDIDATE IN HIS BIRTHDAY SUIT? : : WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO ON ABOUT DIRTY? : : HEALY, WHO FAVORS DRINKING AT THE ASTOR, MAY BE A NICE GUY, BUT THE BAGGAGE HE WILL BRING WITH HIM IS THE LOWEST OF THE LOW. : : : Our Governor turned out to be Gay and in the closet... Just like Manzo. And he got blackmailed... which may be a possibility with Manzo. If Manzo can't come to grips with his own sexuality and be up front about it, then how can we trust him to run our city? : : : On the other hand... its all rumor about Healy being a drunk. Sure he drinks just like most of us in this town do. Pubs and bars are our rumor mills, and gathering places. So hanging out in a bar doesn't mean you're a drunk. As for Healy...there are no arrests for DWI, no stumbling drunk episodes, just Manzo's people throwing around a bunch of rumors. : : : I think Manzo has run a dirty campaign. He tears signs off people's homes. He throws around rumors which he can't prove. And he hires felons to run his campaign. So would I vote for a guy who gets ideas from a felon...or a guy who may tip on back now and then? I think on balance, Healy gets my respect and my vote over Manzo. : : : : After looking at a number of posts on this board, it seems that the: : : : : 1. Manzo Supporters claim Healy is a degenerate drunk : : : : 2. Healy supporters claim Manzo is Gay : : : : I don't know if either claim is true, but assuming both are, than who should I vote for? : : : : Being gay has to do with one's sexual preference, since the person getting elected is going to govern, not have sex I really don't care if a candidate is gay. I just care how well he will govern. There is no scientific link correlating being gay and low intelligence. : : : : Alcoholism on the other hand is a degenerative disease that if not checked in time is life threathening. In addition, while in the drunken state one's faculties are seriously impared. Judgement and rationale thinking and acting are seriously compromised. So, would I want a drunk over a gay for Mayor? No freakin way! I'll take the gay guy, what's his name? Manzo? : : : : Yeah! I'am going to vote for Manzo. : : : : ANd those that want to support a drunk for Mayor? Shame on you. Do you think serious voters wouldn;t be suspecious of anyone promoting a drunk as a serious candidate? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Child of Light posted Message 6594 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 12:00:30 Subject: Raciest? Is that a new word? Harvey and his flunkies can't even spell. raciest? is that a new word? : Thank you for the raciest post. It only goes to prove that "Black is Beautiful, tan is grand, but white is the color of an American!" : Brought to you by Harvey Smith for Mayor ***************** End Of Article ****************** Child of Light posted Message 6595 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 12:02:27 Subject: Re: let me set the record straight......for willie flood That's right and exact. Everything you said is so true. I love Mrs. Flood and she will win this election. No matter what they say. : I;m a voter, a mother and a hard working women in Jersey city and I could careless about what people are thinking in regards to willie flood she is a women who is looking out for people like me, she has been doingthe past 7 years that I have been in this city and a couple of those times she wasnt even running for office. I know that Acting mayor Smith is not in the mayors office for the people but for himself and to keep SH@# going in city hall, Manzo is a Assemblyman who is not doing anyhting for people I mean he has a list of legislture but yet nothing is being past. Bonncore is really showing the people of jersey he cares.. this MF'er doesn't even live in Jersey city until two months ago and that means that while he is cheif he is taking JC money and running to another city that, spells out criminal and what makes it so bad he is the top of what we call serving and protecting please spare me. and Mrs. Cunningham is lost and absent that she can't see past Gene Draytons Big belly that Ron is a criminal.thats like putting a kkk leader in the mayors office. and judge healy is greedy I mean Doesnt he get enough tax dollors to get drunk off of. I feel like willie flood has the city at heart.I alot of people in this city who will be voting for mrs. flood in Nov. but Mrs. Flood if your reading this which I really dont think so your focused dont give up girl you are the womens only hope in this city we need you to care on this man legacy and make one of your own........ Girl if you lose in Nov. Which I dont think you will but if you do please girl Run in May we need you......... I love you willie and Jersey city Loves you...... You go Girl use the 12 devils as your stepping stone to get to your blessing ***************** End Of Article ****************** V. Scagliotti posted Message 6596 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 12:05:17 Subject: God bless Willie!!!!!!! She has my vote! The Italian community commends Mrs Flood for stepping to the plate so these greedy degenerates don't get City Hall. Chow! : I;m a voter, a mother and a hard working women in Jersey city and I could careless about what people are thinking in regards to willie flood she is a women who is looking out for people like me, she has been doingthe past 7 years that I have been in this city and a couple of those times she wasnt even running for office. I know that Acting mayor Smith is not in the mayors office for the people but for himself and to keep SH@# going in city hall, Manzo is a Assemblyman who is not doing anyhting for people I mean he has a list of legislture but yet nothing is being past. Bonncore is really showing the people of jersey he cares.. this MF'er doesn't even live in Jersey city until two months ago and that means that while he is cheif he is taking JC money and running to another city that, spells out criminal and what makes it so bad he is the top of what we call serving and protecting please spare me. and Mrs. Cunningham is lost and absent that she can't see past Gene Draytons Big belly that Ron is a criminal.thats like putting a kkk leader in the mayors office. and judge healy is greedy I mean Doesnt he get enough tax dollors to get drunk off of. I feel like willie flood has the city at heart.I alot of people in this city who will be voting for mrs. flood in Nov. but Mrs. Flood if your reading this which I really dont think so your focused dont give up girl you are the womens only hope in this city we need you to care on this man legacy and make one of your own........ Girl if you lose in Nov. Which I dont think you will but if you do please girl Run in May we need you......... I love you willie and Jersey city Loves you...... You go Girl use the 12 devils as your stepping stone to get to your blessing ***************** End Of Article ****************** V. Scagliotti posted Message 6597 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 12:05:18 Subject: God bless Willie!!!!!!! She has my vote! The Italian community commends Mrs Flood for stepping to the plate so these greedy degenerates don't get City Hall. Chow! : I;m a voter, a mother and a hard working women in Jersey city and I could careless about what people are thinking in regards to willie flood she is a women who is looking out for people like me, she has been doingthe past 7 years that I have been in this city and a couple of those times she wasnt even running for office. I know that Acting mayor Smith is not in the mayors office for the people but for himself and to keep SH@# going in city hall, Manzo is a Assemblyman who is not doing anyhting for people I mean he has a list of legislture but yet nothing is being past. Bonncore is really showing the people of jersey he cares.. this MF'er doesn't even live in Jersey city until two months ago and that means that while he is cheif he is taking JC money and running to another city that, spells out criminal and what makes it so bad he is the top of what we call serving and protecting please spare me. and Mrs. Cunningham is lost and absent that she can't see past Gene Draytons Big belly that Ron is a criminal.thats like putting a kkk leader in the mayors office. and judge healy is greedy I mean Doesnt he get enough tax dollors to get drunk off of. I feel like willie flood has the city at heart.I alot of people in this city who will be voting for mrs. flood in Nov. but Mrs. Flood if your reading this which I really dont think so your focused dont give up girl you are the womens only hope in this city we need you to care on this man legacy and make one of your own........ Girl if you lose in Nov. Which I dont think you will but if you do please girl Run in May we need you......... I love you willie and Jersey city Loves you...... You go Girl use the 12 devils as your stepping stone to get to your blessing ***************** End Of Article ****************** You got to be kidding! posted Message 6598 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 12:08:32 Subject: Now if this isn't racist then I don't know what is. And it's probally Uncle Harvey's illiterate A$$! : Please note they can't even get their last name correct: hmmmm : I;m some voter, some moda' and some hard wo'kin' honky chicks in Jersey city and ah' could careless about whut suc ka's is dinkin' in regards t'willie flood she be a honky chicks who be lookin' out fo' suc ka's likes me, she gots been hangin'de past 7 years dat ah' have been in dis city and some couple uh dose times she wuznt even runnin' fo' office. ah' know dat Actin' mayo' Smid be not in de mayo's office fo' de suc ka's but fo' himself and t'keep SH@# goin' in city hall, Manzo be a Assemblyman who be not hangin' anyhtin' fo' suc ka's ah' mean he gots a list uh legislture but yet nodin' be bein' past. Man! Bonnco'e be real showin' de suc ka's uh jersey he cares.. dis MF'a' duzn't even live in Jersey city until two monds ago and dat means dat while he be cheif he be takin' JC bre'd and runnin' t'anoda' city dat, spells out criminal and whut makes it so's baaaad he be de top uh whut we call servin' and protectin' please spare me. and Mrs. Cunnin'ham be lost and absent dat she kin't see past Gene Draytons Big belly dat Rolois some criminal.dats likes puttin' some kkk leada' in de mayo's office. and judge healy be greedy ah' mean Duznt he dig enough tax dollo's t'get drunk off of. ah' feel likes willie flood gots de city at heart. Man!I alot uh suc ka's in dis city who gots'ta be votin' fo' mrs. flood in Nov. Man! but Mrs. Flood if yo' eyeballin' dis which ah' real dont dink so's yo' focused dont cut up goat ya' is de honky chickss only hope in dis city we need ya' t'care on dis joker legacy and make one uh yo' own. 'S coo', bro........ Goat if ya' lose in Nov. Man! Which ah' dont dink ya' gots'ta but if ya' do please goat Run in May we need ya'......... ah' love ya' willie and Jersey city Loves ya'...... You's go Goat use da damn 12 devils as yo' steppin' stone t'get t'yo' blessin' ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 6599 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 12:11:19 Subject: Prove otherwise with some hard facts. She's purer than those other candidates. : Came home from work today and found Willie Flood's face in my mailbox. : From all the posts on this board, you'd have to presume Willie is as pure as the driven snow. : Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. : Doesn't sound right does it ? : Bwahahahahahahahaha !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Goodfella posted Message 6600 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 12:22:04 Subject: You better watch yourself you DEGENERATE!! We like Willie. : Anything from Willie should come in a plain brown wrapper. ***************** End Of Article ****************** To T Williams posted Message 6601 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 12:42:29 Subject: Stop playing both sides. This is a public message board. People can say what they want. If they mispell something, so what! It's obvious what the message is. Stop being negative!! And who died and made you a phorensic expert? : :::Note to Team Flood : Please, I implore you, it is so obvious that you have the same person doing your posting it is pathetic. If you think that posting with obvious misspellings, punctuation errors and using whatever language you think you are puts Ms. Flood in a more common man light, you are in error. : Ms. Flood is an educated eloquent woman and the postings make it look as if all she can attract is the uneducated, ignorant and mindless. This does not instill confidence in the public at large if this is all that there is. : Ms. Flood, please get someone with at least a 1st grade education to make your responses. You deserve at least that much. : : I;m a voter, a mother and a hard working women in Jersey city and I could careless about what people are thinking in regards to willie flood she is a women who is looking out for people like me, she has been doingthe past 7 years that I have been in this city and a couple of those times she wasnt even running for office. I know that Acting mayor Smith is not in the mayors office for the people but for himself and to keep SH@# going in city hall, Manzo is a Assemblyman who is not doing anyhting for people I mean he has a list of legislture but yet nothing is being past. Bonncore is really showing the people of jersey he cares.. this MF'er doesn't even live in Jersey city until two months ago and that means that while he is cheif he is taking JC money and running to another city that, spells out criminal and what makes it so bad he is the top of what we call serving and protecting please spare me. and Mrs. Cunningham is lost and absent that she can't see past Gene Draytons Big belly that Ron is a criminal.thats like putting a kkk leader in the mayors office. and judge healy is greedy I mean Doesnt he get enough tax dollors to get drunk off of. I feel like willie flood has the city at heart.I alot of people in this city who will be voting for mrs. flood in Nov. but Mrs. Flood if your reading this which I really dont think so your focused dont give up girl you are the womens only hope in this city we need you to care on this man legacy and make one of your own........ Girl if you lose in Nov. Which I dont think you will but if you do please girl Run in May we need you......... I love you willie and Jersey city Loves you...... You go Girl use the 12 devils as your stepping stone to get to your blessing ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sorry it was to makes me shiver posted Message 6602 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 12:45:09 Subject: Re: Stop playing both sides. My mistake. to makes me shiver My mistake : This is a public message board. People can say what they want. If they mispell something, so what! It's obvious what the message is. Stop being negative!! And who died and made you a phorensic expert? : : :::Note to Team Flood : : Please, I implore you, it is so obvious that you have the same person doing your posting it is pathetic. If you think that posting with obvious misspellings, punctuation errors and using whatever language you think you are puts Ms. Flood in a more common man light, you are in error. : : Ms. Flood is an educated eloquent woman and the postings make it look as if all she can attract is the uneducated, ignorant and mindless. This does not instill confidence in the public at large if this is all that there is. : : Ms. Flood, please get someone with at least a 1st grade education to make your responses. You deserve at least that much. : : : I;m a voter, a mother and a hard working women in Jersey city and I could careless about what people are thinking in regards to willie flood she is a women who is looking out for people like me, she has been doingthe past 7 years that I have been in this city and a couple of those times she wasnt even running for office. I know that Acting mayor Smith is not in the mayors office for the people but for himself and to keep SH@# going in city hall, Manzo is a Assemblyman who is not doing anyhting for people I mean he has a list of legislture but yet nothing is being past. Bonncore is really showing the people of jersey he cares.. this MF'er doesn't even live in Jersey city until two months ago and that means that while he is cheif he is taking JC money and running to another city that, spells out criminal and what makes it so bad he is the top of what we call serving and protecting please spare me. and Mrs. Cunningham is lost and absent that she can't see past Gene Draytons Big belly that Ron is a criminal.thats like putting a kkk leader in the mayors office. and judge healy is greedy I mean Doesnt he get enough tax dollors to get drunk off of. I feel like willie flood has the city at heart.I alot of people in this city who will be voting for mrs. flood in Nov. but Mrs. Flood if your reading this which I really dont think so your focused dont give up girl you are the womens only hope in this city we need you to care on this man legacy and make one of your own........ Girl if you lose in Nov. Which I dont think you will but if you do please girl Run in May we need you......... I love you willie and Jersey city Loves you...... You go Girl use the 12 devils as your stepping stone to get to your blessing ***************** End Of Article ****************** Developers against manzo. posted Message 6603 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 12:58:15 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo Exactly!!! : Lou Manzo = A good A$$ raping for Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** JT posted Message 6604 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 12:59:24 Subject: Re: let me set the record straight......for willie flood You go girl!! : I;m a voter, a mother and a hard working women in Jersey city and I could careless about what people are thinking in regards to willie flood she is a women who is looking out for people like me, she has been doingthe past 7 years that I have been in this city and a couple of those times she wasnt even running for office. I know that Acting mayor Smith is not in the mayors office for the people but for himself and to keep SH@# going in city hall, Manzo is a Assemblyman who is not doing anyhting for people I mean he has a list of legislture but yet nothing is being past. Bonncore is really showing the people of jersey he cares.. this MF'er doesn't even live in Jersey city until two months ago and that means that while he is cheif he is taking JC money and running to another city that, spells out criminal and what makes it so bad he is the top of what we call serving and protecting please spare me. and Mrs. Cunningham is lost and absent that she can't see past Gene Draytons Big belly that Ron is a criminal.thats like putting a kkk leader in the mayors office. and judge healy is greedy I mean Doesnt he get enough tax dollors to get drunk off of. I feel like willie flood has the city at heart.I alot of people in this city who will be voting for mrs. flood in Nov. but Mrs. Flood if your reading this which I really dont think so your focused dont give up girl you are the womens only hope in this city we need you to care on this man legacy and make one of your own........ Girl if you lose in Nov. Which I dont think you will but if you do please girl Run in May we need you......... I love you willie and Jersey city Loves you...... You go Girl use the 12 devils as your stepping stone to get to your blessing ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 6605 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 13:12:23 Subject: No no no !!! I know the Italian Community is with me !!! Me me me !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6606 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 13:18:45 Subject: LMAO !!! "And who died and made you a phorensic expert?" So these are the people we want to entrust government to. They can't spell, they can't speak the English language and they support an airhead woman for Mayor. Glenn's legacy ... that Jersey City become a Third World Country. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The insider posted Message 6607 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 13:38:22 Subject: Buonocore making a move to Healy Camp Ron Buonocore is having talks with Tom Degise,Buddy Demelier and Bill Gaughan to come aboard with the Healy Camp. Ron Buonocore knows he will be knocked out by Manzo in court so he saw an opportuinty to sneak into the police cheif position while Craig Guy (who was supposed to get that post) is laid up in the hospital with serious injuries from a terrible car accident. The Healy camp needs some kind of spark to get their campaign off the ground. There is only 35 days to the election and the Doria poll shows him 8 points in back of Manzo. They did not count on Manzo being that far ahead but when Ray Manzo backed out they knew they could not split Lou Manzo's vote by trying to confuse voters. Enter Ron Buonocore. Remember 8 points is a lot of ground to make up with over 10 candidates in the race with only 35 days to election but DeGise & Co. hope Buonocore can transfer his 5 points (from the Doria poll) their way to cut into Manzo's lead. The only draw back is Ron Buonocore takes Craig Guy's spot as cheif and the Healy Camp must smooth this over with the JC Police Officers already in the camp. Ron Buonocore is requesting all his supporters will now come first in regard to jobs & top positions for his endosment. The Healy Camp has some tough decisions : Take in Ron Buonocore and possibly destroy their chances of winning this election by turning their camp upside down or telling Ron no thanks and try to stay focused by getting the campaign off the ground and make a run at Manzo ? - - STAY TUNED . . U ----- ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vito Corleone posted Message 6608 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 13:38:44 Subject: Re: God bless Willie!!!!!!! She has my vote! Quanto divertente è che... il "chow ". Gli italiani non stanno sostenendo l'inondazione più che i Pali. Questo alberino è supposto per provenire da un italiano ma questa persona non sa che la differenza betweeen una razza del cane e di una parola italiana comune. : The Italian community commends Mrs Flood for stepping to the plate so these greedy degenerates don't get City Hall. Chow! ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6609 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 13:48:38 Subject: Re: God bless Willie!!!!!!! he has my vote! God Bless Him : The Italian community commends Mrs Flood for stepping to the plate so these greedy degenerates don't get City Hall. Chow! : : : I;m a voter, a mother and a hard working women in Jersey city and I could careless about what people are thinking in regards to willie flood she is a women who is looking out for people like me, she has been doingthe past 7 years that I have been in this city and a couple of those times she wasnt even running for office. I know that Acting mayor Smith is not in the mayors office for the people but for himself and to keep SH@# going in city hall, Manzo is a Assemblyman who is not doing anyhting for people I mean he has a list of legislture but yet nothing is being past. Bonncore is really showing the people of jersey he cares.. this MF'er doesn't even live in Jersey city until two months ago and that means that while he is cheif he is taking JC money and running to another city that, spells out criminal and what makes it so bad he is the top of what we call serving and protecting please spare me. and Mrs. Cunningham is lost and absent that she can't see past Gene Draytons Big belly that Ron is a criminal.thats like putting a kkk leader in the mayors office. and judge healy is greedy I mean Doesnt he get enough tax dollors to get drunk off of. I feel like willie flood has the city at heart.I alot of people in this city who will be voting for mrs. flood in Nov. but Mrs. Flood if your reading this which I really dont think so your focused dont give up girl you are the womens only hope in this city we need you to care on this man legacy and make one of your own........ Girl if you lose in Nov. Which I dont think you will but if you do please girl Run in May we need you......... I love you willie and Jersey city Loves you...... You go Girl use the 12 devils as your stepping stone to get to your blessing ***************** End Of Article ****************** We don't like Gay People posted Message 6610 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 14:10:15 Subject: Homophobes for Healy Healy people don;t like gay people, and that is all the justification we need for not supporting a candidate who is gay. We only trust white guys who drink alot, those are the people who we relate to and will vote for. We'll take the black and hispanic vote if they want to vote for us but they know not to expect anything in return from a Healy administration. We are true blue bigots and are proud of it! Just look at who our leaders are? Menedez, DeGise, Gaughan ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6611 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 14:16:15 Subject: Re: let me set the record straight......for willie flood Are you Black ? Hard working woman? Working the streets ? A mother ? Where's the father ? Just stay home don't waste your vote on Mr. Flood. You go girl ! Go get your welfare check from the mailbox. Healy will be the mayor in Nov 2004 & May 2005. : I;m a voter, a mother and a hard working women in Jersey city and I could careless about what people are thinking in regards to willie flood she is a women who is looking out for people like me, she has been doingthe past 7 years that I have been in this city and a couple of those times she wasnt even running for office. I know that Acting mayor Smith is not in the mayors office for the people but for himself and to keep SH@# going in city hall, Manzo is a Assemblyman who is not doing anyhting for people I mean he has a list of legislture but yet nothing is being past. Bonncore is really showing the people of jersey he cares.. this MF'er doesn't even live in Jersey city until two months ago and that means that while he is cheif he is taking JC money and running to another city that, spells out criminal and what makes it so bad he is the top of what we call serving and protecting please spare me. and Mrs. Cunningham is lost and absent that she can't see past Gene Draytons Big belly that Ron is a criminal.thats like putting a kkk leader in the mayors office. and judge healy is greedy I mean Doesnt he get enough tax dollors to get drunk off of. I feel like willie flood has the city at heart.I alot of people in this city who will be voting for mrs. flood in Nov. but Mrs. Flood if your reading this which I really dont think so your focused dont give up girl you are the womens only hope in this city we need you to care on this man legacy and make one of your own........ Girl if you lose in Nov. Which I dont think you will but if you do please girl Run in May we need you......... I love you willie and Jersey city Loves you...... You go Girl use the 12 devils as your stepping stone to get to your blessing ***************** End Of Article ****************** To Not Have to Campaign posted Message 6612 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 14:21:03 Subject: Healy Will Do ANything...... Healy and his 'bozo-braintrust'will do anything so they don;t have to campaign, but that is what they should be doing, and considering other candidate support as a secondary issue. If they realize Bonocoure isn't campaigning either they would know the support of Bonocoure is worth next to nothing. Hey! Bonocoure isn't going to vote for Healy, He Can't! He doesn't live in JC! He will admit as much tomorrow. : Ron Buonocore is having talks with Tom Degise,Buddy Demelier and Bill Gaughan to come aboard with the Healy Camp. Ron Buonocore knows he will be knocked out by Manzo in court so he saw an opportuinty to sneak into the police cheif position while Craig Guy (who was supposed to get that post) is laid up in the hospital with serious injuries from a terrible car accident. : The Healy camp needs some kind of spark to get their campaign off the ground. There is only 35 days to the election and the Doria poll shows him 8 points in back of Manzo. They did not count on Manzo being that far ahead but when Ray Manzo backed out they knew they could not split Lou Manzo's vote by trying to confuse voters. Enter Ron Buonocore. Remember 8 points is a lot of ground to make up with over 10 candidates in the race with only 35 days to election but DeGise & Co. hope Buonocore can transfer his 5 points (from the Doria poll) their way to cut into Manzo's lead. The only draw back is Ron Buonocore takes Craig Guy's spot as cheif and the Healy Camp must smooth this over with the JC Police Officers already in the camp. Ron Buonocore is requesting all his supporters will now come first in regard to jobs & top positions for his endosment. The Healy Camp has some tough decisions : Take in Ron Buonocore and possibly destroy their chances of winning this election by turning their camp upside down or telling Ron no thanks and try to stay focused by getting the campaign off the ground and make a run at Manzo ? : - - : STAY TUNED . . : U : ----- : ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Will Sell Anything for the Right Price posted Message 6613 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 14:33:19 Subject: Developers are for Healy The developers in JC don;t like Lou because he can't be bought off. Now Healy, being the ultimate 'for-profit' politican will support anybody for the right price. Notice Healy's support for the Flintkote tax abate give-away. How much of the $19 million will Healy get? : Exactly!!! : : Lou Manzo = A good A$$ raping for Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Submit to Physical Exam posted Message 6614 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 14:46:15 Subject: All Candidates Should - After the sudden and un-expected passing of Mayor Cunningham I think all candidates should be required to take a physical exam and to make the results public information. I want to know if someone that I want to support has: 1`aids 2.cirrosis of the liver 3. problems with bladder control 4. no measurable brain cell activity 5. Lackaclothesis (desire to un-dress in public ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uh-Dipstick posted Message 6615 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 15:17:48 Subject: Re: Developers are for Healy Healy, Maldonado & Smith voted against it. : The developers in JC don;t like Lou because he can't be bought off. Now Healy, being the ultimate 'for-profit' politican will support anybody for the right price. Notice Healy's support for the Flintkote tax abate give-away. How much of the $19 million will Healy get? : : Exactly!!! : : : : Lou Manzo = A good A$$ raping for Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Plus posted Message 6616 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 15:19:09 Subject: Re: All Candidates Should - Should sign a waiver saying they will never eat cotton candy or bicycle ride. : After the sudden and un-expected passing of Mayor Cunningham I think all candidates should be required to take a physical exam and to make the results public information. : I want to know if someone that I want to support has: : 1`aids : 2.cirrosis of the liver : 3. problems with bladder control : 4. no measurable brain cell activity : 5. Lackaclothesis (desire to un-dress in public ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gavone posted Message 6617 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 15:21:28 Subject: Re: God bless Willie!!!!!!! She has my vote! ::What the hell kind of Italian are you? Ciao! : The Italian community commends Mrs Flood for stepping to the plate so these greedy degenerates don't get City Hall. Chow! : : : I;m a voter, a mother and a hard working women in Jersey city and I could careless about what people are thinking in regards to willie flood she is a women who is looking out for people like me, she has been doingthe past 7 years that I have been in this city and a couple of those times she wasnt even running for office. I know that Acting mayor Smith is not in the mayors office for the people but for himself and to keep SH@# going in city hall, Manzo is a Assemblyman who is not doing anyhting for people I mean he has a list of legislture but yet nothing is being past. Bonncore is really showing the people of jersey he cares.. this MF'er doesn't even live in Jersey city until two months ago and that means that while he is cheif he is taking JC money and running to another city that, spells out criminal and what makes it so bad he is the top of what we call serving and protecting please spare me. and Mrs. Cunningham is lost and absent that she can't see past Gene Draytons Big belly that Ron is a criminal.thats like putting a kkk leader in the mayors office. and judge healy is greedy I mean Doesnt he get enough tax dollors to get drunk off of. I feel like willie flood has the city at heart.I alot of people in this city who will be voting for mrs. flood in Nov. but Mrs. Flood if your reading this which I really dont think so your focused dont give up girl you are the womens only hope in this city we need you to care on this man legacy and make one of your own........ Girl if you lose in Nov. Which I dont think you will but if you do please girl Run in May we need you......... I love you willie and Jersey city Loves you...... You go Girl use the 12 devils as your stepping stone to get to your blessing ***************** End Of Article ****************** Appollonia Corleone posted Message 6618 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 15:25:56 Subject: Re: God bless Willie!!!!!!! She has my vote! :: Lei ha portato le parole dalla mia bocca. : Quanto divertente è che... il "chow ". Gli italiani non stanno sostenendo l'inondazione più che i Pali. Questo alberino è supposto per provenire da un italiano ma questa persona non sa che la differenza betweeen una razza del cane e di una parola italiana comune. : : The Italian community commends Mrs Flood for stepping to the plate so these greedy degenerates don't get City Hall. Chow! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BBKING posted Message 6619 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 15:39:47 Subject: Re: HEALY DRINKS UNLEADED. (SMITH POLL) MANZO HAS A 10 POINT LEAD ON SMITH AND AN 11 POINT LEAD ON HEALY : JERRY HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD AS EXPECTED : THIS ACCORDING TO SMITHS POLL TAKEN THIS WEEK : LOU MANZO IS SECOND 7 POINTS BEHIND JERRY. : AND HARVEY A CLOSE THIRD. : LIPSKI NOT ON RADAR SCREEN. RONNIE MAY LEAVE ON WEDNESDAY AND SUPPORT THE LEADER.BUT NOT WITHOUT DISCREDITING MCCANN & LOUIE MANZO. SEE HIS MAILING. LOTS OF FELONS WITH LOUIE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Really Is! posted Message 6620 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 15:43:54 Subject: DeGise Gay SInce the Healy people want everyone to come out of the closet why doesn't DeGise come out? : Healy people don;t like gay people, and that is all the justification we need for not supporting a candidate who is gay. : We only trust white guys who drink alot, those are the people who we relate to and will vote for. : We'll take the black and hispanic vote if they want to vote for us but they know not to expect anything in return from a Healy administration. : We are true blue bigots and are proud of it! : Just look at who our leaders are? Menedez, DeGise, Gaughan ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doo Fis posted Message 6621 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 15:48:15 Subject: Gaughan tells Healy Drunk, stupid & gay is no way to go through life. You should only be drunk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Outsider posted Message 6622 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 15:57:03 Subject: Re: Buonocore making a move to Healy Camp CORRECTION PLEASE. Buonocore was tied with Lou at 11%! Add that to Healy and you guys lose!! That's Ok, your a bunch of loosers anyway! Scabby McScam & Looney Lou together the city they will screw! this message was brought to you by Harvey Smith for Mayor ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County GOP posted Message 6623 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 15:58:27 Subject: HUDSON GOP BACKS DORIA FOR 31st DISTRICT SENATE SEAT JERSEY CITY - Hudson County Republican Party (HCRP) Chairman Jose Arango and Vice-Chair Deborah Cuseglio today announced that the HCRP is supporting interim Senator Joseph V. Doria, Jr. in his bid to fill the unexpired term of the late Senator Glenn Cunningham, who passed away in May. In addition to the HCRP's backing, the Republican city committees in Jersey City and Bayonne are supporting Doria and are urging Republicans in the 31st Legislative District to vote for Doria on Election Day, Tuesday, November 2. Republican State Committee Members Lee Lichtenberger and Maryann Kelleher are also supporting Doria. "I have known Joe Doria for more than 20 years and I can't think of another public servant who works harder and more effectively for his constituents," said Arango, who served with Doria in the New Jersey General Assembly from 1986 to 1988. "Joe Doria has always put the people he represents first and his party label second in order to get things done. We would have put him on the Republican line if our State constitution allowed it, like in New York." Bayonne City Republican Chairman Vincent Cuseglio, Jersey City Republican Party Vice Chairwoman Sonia Hernandez Schulman and Jersey City Republican Chairman Russ Maffei are joining Arango in supporting Doria for Senate because of Doria's strong track record and ability to deliver for the people he was elected to serve. Bayonne City Republican Chairman Cuseglio added, "Republicans and Democrats don't often agree on much, but we can all agree that the only choice for Senate is Joe Doria. While others want only to grandstand and sling arrows, Joe Doria is a consensus builder who knows it is more important to get results than to showboat. I hope everyone joins me in voting for Joe Doria on November 2." "Joe Doria is unbossed and unbought, pure and simple," Jersey City GOP Vice Chairwoman Schulman stated. "He is a proven leader who has worked to ease the burden of property taxes by fighting to increase the Homestead Rebate for seniors and NJ Saver rebates for families. Joe Doria deserves our support on Election Day." “Over the years Joe Doria Has proven to be bi-partisan," added Jersey City GOP Chairman Maffei. “With no Republican in the race, experience is out best choice!” "I am thankful for the support of the HCRP leadership and its members," Doria concluded. "During my 25-years years in the Legislature as Assemblyman, Speaker, Assembly Democratic Leader, and now as Senator, I have always tried to work toward the common good for the people of Hudson County and New Jersey. If I am blessed to be elected this November, I will continue to work on behalf or all the people to provide property tax relief, to improve our schools and to bring more quality jobs to Jersey City and Bayonne." ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watching Desperation Build posted Message 6624 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 16:05:13 Subject: An amazing display The more these posts blast Jerry Healy, the more obvious Lou's desperation has become. The numbers are what is important, not the small-minded comments posted here. Right now the numbers show Jerry Healy surging and Manzo stuck where he has been for months. So Manzo (and all those people hoping for jobs) must see his last grasp at the Mayor's Office slipping away, and his chances of being voted out of his Assembly office growing every day. The more Jersey City sees the kind of scum he associates with, the better the chance that he will have no political office when this is all over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yike Threats!!! posted Message 6625 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 16:14:16 Subject: You are sooo damned funny..... : We like Willie. : : : Anything from Willie should come in a plain brown wrapper. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6626 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 16:18:45 Subject: Willie NO MORE I don't like him anymore. His son is a mean spirited person. : : We like Willie. : : : : : Anything from Willie should come in a plain brown wrapper. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Political Rulemaker posted Message 6627 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 16:19:48 Subject: Re: All Candidates Should - More important....all candidates should submit to a psych exam so we don't get stuck with any lunatics. And anyone who has relatives in jail or going to jail, or associates with people who have recently been in jail should be excluded. : After the sudden and un-expected passing of Mayor Cunningham I think all candidates should be required to take a physical exam and to make the results public information. : I want to know if someone that I want to support has: : 1 AIDS : 2. cirrosis of the liver : 3. problems with bladder control : 4. no measurable brain cell activity : 5. Lackamorals (desire to un-dress little boys) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sounds like a McCann post posted Message 6628 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 16:22:03 Subject: Re: Homophobes for Healy Lou, you are supposed to keep Gerry McCann away from the computers!!! What next? Danny handing out towels at the showers? You're playing with fire. : Healy people don;t like gay people, and that is all the justification we need for not supporting a candidate who is gay. : We only trust white guys who drink alot, those are the people who we relate to and will vote for. : We'll take the black and hispanic vote if they want to vote for us but they know not to expect anything in return from a Healy administration. : We are true blue bigots and are proud of it! : Just look at who our leaders are? Menedez, DeGise, Gaughan ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth be told posted Message 6629 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 16:29:08 Subject: Stand behind the man New Manzo slogan - Lou Manzo "stands behind" our Governor! ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6630 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 16:29:34 Subject: McCann Gerry if I see you in my area I beat you down like a dog. Go back to Allenwood. You will be in jail again for your wrong doings. You and your family will never amount to anything. Thanks for helping Looney Lou. He was a shoe in to lose when you came on board. I know you arte gay also. You were getting jammed in the a s s when you were in the slammer so I guess you like to return the pleasure to Lou & Dan. Dan McMann & Gerry McCann give it to Looney Lou in the can. Healy Nov 2004 & May 2005 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ditto posted Message 6631 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 16:45:56 Subject: DeGise Tells Gaughan Ditto: Drunk, stupid & gay is no way to go through life. : You should only be drunk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy in the Dust! posted Message 6632 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 16:52:15 Subject: Lou With an Amazing Lead! Latest poll has; manzo 25% Harvey 12% Flood 11% Healy in the dust! Where exactly is Healy surging? Is he suffering from gastrointestinal problems? Stop eating the slim jims Jerry! : The more these posts blast Jerry Healy, the more obvious Lou's desperation has become. The numbers are what is important, not the small-minded comments posted here. : Right now the numbers show Jerry Healy surging and Manzo stuck where he has been for months. So Manzo (and all those people hoping for jobs) must see his last grasp at the Mayor's Office slipping away, and his chances of being voted out of his Assembly office growing every day. : The more Jersey City sees the kind of scum he associates with, the better the chance that he will have no political office when this is all over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where is your Mother? posted Message 6633 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 16:57:10 Subject: Tom DeGise --- - Hey Tom, can you explain to the average citizen on Hudson County how your mother was able to jump right over the waiting list and get into St. Joseph's Home on Pavonia Ave? You didn't pull any strings Tommy? Did you? I hope so because the Attorney General is going to be getting a letter to investigate this matter. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I beg to differ posted Message 6634 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 16:58:16 Subject: Re: McCann You want to slam McCann, fine. Everyone has their feelings, good and bad about him. But making it personal about his family is unconscionable and uncalled for. Grow up. Politics is one thing...family is another. : Gerry if I see you in my area I beat you down like a dog. Go back to Allenwood. You will be in jail again for your wrong doings. You and your family will never amount to anything. : Thanks for helping Looney Lou. He was a shoe in to lose when you came on board. I know you arte gay also. You were getting jammed in the a s s when you were in the slammer so I guess you like to return the pleasure to Lou & Dan. Dan McMann & Gerry McCann give it to Looney Lou in the can. : Healy Nov 2004 & May 2005 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** If Its Not True Than Why is That All the Healy People Say? posted Message 6635 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 17:02:50 Subject: Re: Homophobes for Healy To all the homophobes for Healy, so lets see your bigoted posts about Manzo being gay stop. I really want to know what the Healy platform is. : Lou, you are supposed to keep Gerry McCann away from the computers!!! What next? Danny handing out towels at the showers? You're playing with fire. : : Healy people don;t like gay people, and that is all the justification we need for not supporting a candidate who is gay. : : We only trust white guys who drink alot, those are the people who we relate to and will vote for. : : We'll take the black and hispanic vote if they want to vote for us but they know not to expect anything in return from a Healy administration. : : We are true blue bigots and are proud of it! : : Just look at who our leaders are? Menedez, DeGise, Gaughan ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6636 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 17:05:26 Subject: Re: McCann McCann goes around showing a phony picture of Healy. How does the Healy family feel about that ? That is uncalled for. : You want to slam McCann, fine. Everyone has their feelings, good and bad about him. But making it personal about his family is unconscionable and uncalled for. Grow up. Politics is one thing...family is another. : : : Gerry if I see you in my area I beat you down like a dog. Go back to Allenwood. You will be in jail again for your wrong doings. You and your family will never amount to anything. : : Thanks for helping Looney Lou. He was a shoe in to lose when you came on board. I know you arte gay also. You were getting jammed in the a s s when you were in the slammer so I guess you like to return the pleasure to Lou & Dan. Dan McMann & Gerry McCann give it to Looney Lou in the can. : : Healy Nov 2004 & May 2005 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth posted Message 6637 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 17:15:19 Subject: J Dolan is Jimmy D When this is over father in law won't be able to protect you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Beg To Differ posted Message 6638 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 17:27:11 Subject: Re: McCann I don't disagree with you...I don't believe in those kind of tactics...But the issue is family...Yes, Gerry is slamming Healy but not his family. So if you want to slam Gerry, be my guest...Just leave his family out of it. They are good people and don't deserved to badmouthed, same as the Healy family does not deserve it either : McCann goes around showing a phony picture of Healy. How does the Healy family feel about that ? That is uncalled for. : : You want to slam McCann, fine. Everyone has their feelings, good and bad about him. But making it personal about his family is unconscionable and uncalled for. Grow up. Politics is one thing...family is another. : : : : : Gerry if I see you in my area I beat you down like a dog. Go back to Allenwood. You will be in jail again for your wrong doings. You and your family will never amount to anything. : : : Thanks for helping Looney Lou. He was a shoe in to lose when you came on board. I know you arte gay also. You were getting jammed in the a s s when you were in the slammer so I guess you like to return the pleasure to Lou & Dan. Dan McMann & Gerry McCann give it to Looney Lou in the can. : : : Healy Nov 2004 & May 2005 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Damn Straight posted Message 6639 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 17:48:16 Subject: Dolan is a freakin loser...no matter who he supports The comments on this board can get pretty rude and rough at times. But Dolan is the lowest of the low. I support Jerry Healy... but Dolan may change that with his personal attacks on people on this board. : You want to slam McCann, fine. Everyone has their feelings, good and bad about him. But making it personal about his family is unconscionable and uncalled for. Grow up. Politics is one thing...family is another. : : : Gerry if I see you in my area I beat you down like a dog. Go back to Allenwood. You will be in jail again for your wrong doings. You and your family will never amount to anything. : : Thanks for helping Looney Lou. He was a shoe in to lose when you came on board. I know you arte gay also. You were getting jammed in the a s s when you were in the slammer so I guess you like to return the pleasure to Lou & Dan. Dan McMann & Gerry McCann give it to Looney Lou in the can. : : Healy Nov 2004 & May 2005 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy posted Message 6640 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 18:45:22 Subject: McCann Moving Adhead of . . . . . . . With all the attention the Healyites are lavishing upon Jerry McCann he has now past Healy, even though he is not even a candidate! Healy polling numbers have him in 4th place behind Willie Flood. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 'Supporter' posted Message 6641 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 18:56:26 Subject: Dolan - A Typical Healy Dolan Dude; Your post says it all. You epotimize the typical Healy Supporter, bigoted, stupid, relagated to launching personal attacks against Jerry McCann, it really is good what you do because you are just sending voters to the Manzo camp. I mean, who would want to be associated with a loser like you? : You want to slam McCann, fine. Everyone has their feelings, good and bad about him. But making it personal about his family is unconscionable and uncalled for. Grow up. Politics is one thing...family is another. : : : Gerry if I see you in my area I beat you down like a dog. Go back to Allenwood. You will be in jail again for your wrong doings. You and your family will never amount to anything. : : Thanks for helping Looney Lou. He was a shoe in to lose when you came on board. I know you arte gay also. You were getting jammed in the a s s when you were in the slammer so I guess you like to return the pleasure to Lou & Dan. Dan McMann & Gerry McCann give it to Looney Lou in the can. : : Healy Nov 2004 & May 2005 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** New DeGise PR Director posted Message 6642 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 19:03:41 Subject: Re: Dolan Move over to the end of the Bar Jimmy K. , DeGise is going to hire Dolan as his new PR Director and 'Spiritual Leader' of the Healy campaign. Don't worry Jimmy K., you can stay on the payroll, at least until Lou becomes Mayor. : The comments on this board can get pretty rude and rough at times. But Dolan is the lowest of the low. I support Jerry Healy... but Dolan may change that with his personal attacks on people on this board. : : You want to slam McCann, fine. Everyone has their feelings, good and bad about him. But making it personal about his family is unconscionable and uncalled for. Grow up. Politics is one thing...family is another. : : : : : Gerry if I see you in my area I beat you down like a dog. Go back to Allenwood. You will be in jail again for your wrong doings. You and your family will never amount to anything. : : : Thanks for helping Looney Lou. He was a shoe in to lose when you came on board. I know you arte gay also. You were getting jammed in the a s s when you were in the slammer so I guess you like to return the pleasure to Lou & Dan. Dan McMann & Gerry McCann give it to Looney Lou in the can. : : : Healy Nov 2004 & May 2005 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doria is not a Republican! posted Message 6643 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 19:10:59 Subject: GOP Setting a Bad Example Can't the GOP cultivate their own candidates? Nothing personal against Joe, but he is a Democrat who pays his Homage to the HCDO and Bobby M. Jose, You could do better!' : JERSEY CITY - Hudson County Republican Party (HCRP) Chairman Jose Arango and Vice-Chair Deborah Cuseglio today announced that the HCRP is supporting interim Senator Joseph V. Doria, Jr. in his bid to fill the unexpired term of the late Senator Glenn Cunningham, who passed away in May. : In addition to the HCRP's backing, the Republican city committees in Jersey City and Bayonne are supporting Doria and are urging Republicans in the 31st Legislative District to vote for Doria on Election Day, Tuesday, November 2. Republican State Committee Members Lee Lichtenberger and Maryann Kelleher are also supporting Doria. : "I have known Joe Doria for more than 20 years and I can't think of another public servant who works harder and more effectively for his constituents," said Arango, who served with Doria in the New Jersey General Assembly from 1986 to 1988. "Joe Doria has always put the people he represents first and his party label second in order to get things done. We would have put him on the Republican line if our State constitution allowed it, like in New York." : Bayonne City Republican Chairman Vincent Cuseglio, Jersey City Republican Party Vice Chairwoman Sonia Hernandez Schulman and Jersey City Republican Chairman Russ Maffei are joining Arango in supporting Doria for Senate because of Doria's strong track record and ability to deliver for the people he was elected to serve. : Bayonne City Republican Chairman Cuseglio added, "Republicans and Democrats don't often agree on much, but we can all agree that the only choice for Senate is Joe Doria. While others want only to grandstand and sling arrows, Joe Doria is a consensus builder who knows it is more important to get results than to showboat. I hope everyone joins me in voting for Joe Doria on November 2." : "Joe Doria is unbossed and unbought, pure and simple," Jersey City GOP Vice Chairwoman Schulman stated. "He is a proven leader who has worked to ease the burden of property taxes by fighting to increase the Homestead Rebate for seniors and NJ Saver rebates for families. Joe Doria deserves our support on Election Day." : “Over the years Joe Doria Has proven to be bi-partisan," added Jersey City GOP Chairman Maffei. “With no Republican in the race, experience is out best choice!” : "I am thankful for the support of the HCRP leadership and its members," Doria concluded. "During my 25-years years in the Legislature as Assemblyman, Speaker, Assembly Democratic Leader, and now as Senator, I have always tried to work toward the common good for the people of Hudson County and New Jersey. If I am blessed to be elected this November, I will continue to work on behalf or all the people to provide property tax relief, to improve our schools and to bring more quality jobs to Jersey City and Bayonne." : ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** Back to the Dark Ages posted Message 6644 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 19:57:06 Subject: Guilt by Association - Looks like I was finally able to piece together what the Healy platform is all about. Gays will be placed in jail for being gay. ANyone who has a family member charged or convicted of a crime also goes to jail. After Jerry implements this policy of course he will have to go to jail as well, for urinating in public and undressing in public. : More important....all candidates should submit to a psych exam so we don't get stuck with any lunatics. And anyone who has relatives in jail or going to jail, or associates with people who have recently been in jail should be excluded. : : After the sudden and un-expected passing of Mayor Cunningham I think all candidates should be required to take a physical exam and to make the results public information. : : I want to know if someone that I want to support has: : : 1 AIDS : : 2. cirrosis of the liver : : 3. problems with bladder control : : 4. no measurable brain cell activity : : 5. Lackamorals (desire to un-dress little boys) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6645 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 20:06:21 Subject: Hudson GOP is a joke Again and again Anthony touts Republican candidates on this board ... posts photo after photo of Bret Schundler and Jose Arango ... blathers on endlessly about the corruption of the HCDO and Bob Menenedez. And lo and behold Arango and his pitiful excuse for a Republican Party endorses Joe Doria, candidate of the Evil Empire (aka HCDO). Anthony, give it up. Your time would be better served if you were a Green or a Libertarian. At least those party's have some semblance of credibility and respect. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE KING posted Message 6646 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 20:36:22 Subject: OFF WITH THEIR HEADS RULE BY DECREE!! OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!! ALL OF THEM!!! NOTHING HERE ABOUT ISSUES. NO DEBATING POLICIES. NEW IDEAS? NONE. PLATFORMS? FORGET IT. THIS IS POLITICS OF PERSONAL ATTACKS AND IT LOWERS US ALL. IF YOU CHOOSE TO CRAWL IN THE MUD... YOU SHOULD BE RULED BY KINGS AND DICTATORS AND GOVERENED BY DECREE. THIS BOARD PROVES THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED IN JERSEY CITY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 6647 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 21:07:22 Subject: Re: McCann Moving Adhead of . . . . . . . :MANZO SUPPORTERS START WEEPING LOU IS FALLING FAST IN THE POLLS ACCORDING TO POLL BY HARVEY SMITH . LOU IS 7 POINTS BEHIND JERRY. HARVEY IS THIRD CLOSE TO LOU , MANZO MAY FINISH THIRD. LOU ALWAYS PEAKS TO EARLY. AND RONNIE BUONNOCORE IS GOING TO TEAR HIM A NEW A$$ WITH ALL THE DIRT HE HAS ON MCMANZO & COMPANY HEALY HAS PICKED UP A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SUPPORT IN ALL AREAS . AND IS HOLDING BACK ON SOME MORE FOR THE FINISH. GO JERRY!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** SENIOR2 posted Message 6648 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 21:16:44 Subject: Re: Tom DeGise --- - : HOW ABOUT WE LEAVE OUR MOTHERS OUT OF THE POLITICAL ARENA. AND PICK ON SOMEONE WHO CAN DEFEND THEMSELVES A$$HOLE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAYE posted Message 6649 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 21:20:56 Subject: FLASH HEALY LEADS THE PACK COUNCILMAN AT LARGE JERRAMIAH T HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD IN A POLL CONDUCTED INDEPENDENTLY BY A MARYLAND POLLING CO. HE IS LEADING THE CLOSEST CANDIDATE BY 7%AND IS IN THE NUMBER 1 POSITION. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JayeBird posted Message 6650 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 21:38:11 Subject: Re: FLASH HEALY LEADS THE PACK : COUNCILMAN AT LARGE JERRAMIAH T HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD TO THE BAR IN A POLL CONDUCTED INDEPENDENTLY BY A MARYLAND POLLING CO. : HE IS LEADING THE CLOSEST CANDIDATE BY 7%AND IS IN THE NUMBER 1 POSITION. *HIC* ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE QUEEN posted Message 6651 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 21:39:49 Subject: Re: OFF WITH THEIR HEADS ::YOU TELL THEM STHWEETIE! : RULE BY DECREE!! OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!! ALL OF THEM!!! NOTHING HERE ABOUT ISSUES. NO DEBATING POLICIES. NEW IDEAS? NONE. PLATFORMS? FORGET IT. : THIS IS POLITICS OF PERSONAL ATTACKS AND IT LOWERS US ALL. : IF YOU CHOOSE TO CRAWL IN THE MUD... YOU SHOULD BE RULED BY KINGS AND DICTATORS AND GOVERENED BY DECREE. THIS BOARD PROVES THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED IN JERSEY CITY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JOMBA posted Message 6652 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 21:54:58 Subject: Re: McCann Moving Adhead of . . . . . . . : :MANZO SUPPORTERS START LAUGHING : LOU IS FALLING FAST IN THE DRINKING POLLS ACCORDING TO POLL BY HARVEY SMITH . : LOU IS 7 DRINKS BEHIND JERRY. HARVEY IS THIRD CLOSE TO LOU , : MANZO MAY FINISH THIRD. LOU ALWAYS HURLS WHEN HE STARTS TO EARLY. BUT THEN HE AINT MUCH OF A DRINKER. HOW COULD HE GO UP AGAINST JERRY WHO HAS BEEN IN TRAINING WITH GAUGHAN AND DIXON. : AND RONNIE BUONNOCORE IS GOING TO TEAR HIS HAIR OUT : WITH ALL THE DIRT LOU HAS ON CON BUONOCORE & COMPANY : HEALY HAS PICKED UP A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SUPPORT IN ALL AREAS NOT RELAVENT TO ANYTHING BUT HE HAS PICKED UP SUPPORT . : AND IS HOLDING BACK ON SOME MORE FOR THE FINISH. : GO JERRY!!! *HIC* ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 6653 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 21:57:38 Subject: Re: J Dolan is Jimmy D :::Its okay baby. Daddys money will support us. Come home I have the refridgerater full of cold brews. : When this is over father in law won't be able to protect you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THINK AGAIN posted Message 6654 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 22:02:09 Subject: Re: Tom DeGise --- - :::BUMPED UP A LIST THAT IS UNDER STATE/FEDERAL GUIDELINES? MAMA DONT HAVE TO DEFEND HERSELF. BUT HER SON SURE DOES. : : HOW ABOUT WE LEAVE OUR MOTHERS OUT OF THE POLITICAL ARENA. : AND PICK ON SOMEONE WHO CAN DEFEND THEMSELVES A$$HOLE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 6655 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 22:04:26 Subject: Re: McCann ::::Stop playing on the computer and making up stories baby. Daddy is getting tired of this too. Puhleeeeze, the beer is cold and ready. : Gerry if I see you in my area I beat you down like a dog. Go back to Allenwood. You will be in jail again for your wrong doings. You and your family will never amount to anything. : Thanks for helping Looney Lou. He was a shoe in to lose when you came on board. I know you arte gay also. You were getting jammed in the a s s when you were in the slammer so I guess you like to return the pleasure to Lou & Dan. Dan McMann & Gerry McCann give it to Looney Lou in the can. : Healy Nov 2004 & May 2005 ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Robin P......... posted Message 6656 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 22:09:20 Subject: Re: Tom DeGise --- - I can deal with most of the crap that is played in this game of Jersey City Politics. But, what I can’t understand is how low some of you people will go. Since when does poking fun of a person with an illness that requires 24 hour supervision part of this game? I feel sorry for pitiful, small minded, people like you! You haven’t a real clue do you? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Besides His Drinking Buddies posted Message 6657 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 22:09:23 Subject: W ho is Supporting Healy?. . . . . Latest poll has Lou in front and Harvey second, even Willie is ahead of Healy. But that should not be a suprise, she is working it, Healy is drinking it! Poor Jerry. : :MANZO SUPPORTERS START WEEPING : LOU IS FALLING FAST IN THE POLLS ACCORDING TO POLL BY HARVEY SMITH . : LOU IS 7 POINTS BEHIND JERRY. HARVEY IS THIRD CLOSE TO LOU , : MANZO MAY FINISH THIRD. LOU ALWAYS PEAKS TO EARLY. : AND RONNIE BUONNOCORE IS GOING TO TEAR HIM A NEW A$$ : WITH ALL THE DIRT HE HAS ON MCMANZO & COMPANY : HEALY HAS PICKED UP A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SUPPORT IN ALL AREAS . : AND IS HOLDING BACK ON SOME MORE FOR THE FINISH. : GO JERRY!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jaye's a Joke posted Message 6658 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 22:20:04 Subject: Jay flunks the test Jaye flunked the basic IQ test... he failed to register one. : : COUNCILMAN AT LARGE JERRAMIAH T HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD TO THE BAR IN A POLL CONDUCTED INDEPENDENTLY BY A MARYLAND POLLING CO. : : HE IS LEADING THE CLOSEST CANDIDATE BY 7%AND IS IN THE NUMBER 1 POSITION. *HIC* ***************** End Of Article ****************** It's about Preferential Treatment posted Message 6659 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 22:21:05 Subject: Nobody is Poking Fun I don;t think the post was to poke fun at an elderly person in need of care, its whether her son who is County Executive pulled some strings so she could get to the front of the line. How would you feel if your mother was on that waiting list for six months- a year and then was told, sorry, Tom DeGise's mother comes first, she doesn;t have to wait, she doesn;t have to play by the rules everyone else does, after all Tom DeGise is part of the aristocracy, rules are just for the ;little people'. How would you like it? : I can deal with most of the crap that is played in this game of Jersey City Politics. But, what I can’t understand is how low some of you people will go. Since when does poking fun of a person with an illness that requires 24 hour supervision part of this game? : I feel sorry for pitiful, small minded, people like you! : You haven’t a real clue do you? : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pictures Don't Lie posted Message 6660 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 22:27:15 Subject: Healy FLASHes Alright! Jerry is definitely the best Flasher in the race. Hope I don;t get the opportunity to see him flash. : : COUNCILMAN AT LARGE JERRAMIAH T HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD TO THE BAR IN A POLL CONDUCTED INDEPENDENTLY BY A MARYLAND POLLING CO. : : HE IS LEADING THE CLOSEST CANDIDATE BY 7%AND IS IN THE NUMBER 1 POSITION. *HIC* ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise Menendez posted Message 6661 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 22:31:56 Subject: Re: OFF WITH THEIR HEADS Getting rid of these two A-Holes would be a start in the right direction. Hudson County is the laughing stock of the State. About time we cleaned house. : ::YOU TELL THEM STHWEETIE! : : RULE BY DECREE!! OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!! ALL OF THEM!!! NOTHING HERE ABOUT ISSUES. NO DEBATING POLICIES. NEW IDEAS? NONE. PLATFORMS? FORGET IT. : : THIS IS POLITICS OF PERSONAL ATTACKS AND IT LOWERS US ALL. : : IF YOU CHOOSE TO CRAWL IN THE MUD... YOU SHOULD BE RULED BY KINGS AND DICTATORS AND GOVERENED BY DECREE. THIS BOARD PROVES THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED IN JERSEY CITY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dropping Out? posted Message 6662 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 22:42:49 Subject: What's the Odds on Bonocoure? Will Bonocoure swear in court that he lived in JC for over a year? or will he just drop out? Are you ready for the final lineup? Will Ron;s mug shot be there? Ron, are you missing Hamburg? The trees are starting to change bright yellow up there, hope you don;t pick up any of that color tomorrow. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Case worker posted Message 6663 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 22:46:35 Subject: Re: Nobody is Poking Fun FYI his mother was taken in because of her case. This was also during the time that we just completed renovations and about 15 seniors joined our home. She was just 1 of 15! If you do you homework any patient that is in advanced stanges are moved up on the list. I know this as a fact! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 6664 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 28, 2004 at 23:02:47 Subject: Re: Willie NO MORE ENOUGH ALREADY! YOU CAN BE MEAN TOO. ITS THE BEER. I LOVE YOU BABY. PLEASE COME HOME AND LEAVE THOSE DAMN MANZO SIGNS IN THE CAR THIS TIME. : I don't like him anymore. His son is a mean spirited person. : : : We like Willie. : : : : : : : Anything from Willie should come in a plain brown wrapper. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tasha white Grand st posted Message 6665 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 00:07:21 Subject: Willie Flood is a women I just moved to Jersey city and i went to willie floods office and she is a WOMEN stop calling her a man... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tasha white Grand st posted Message 6666 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 00:07:38 Subject: Willie Flood is a women I just moved to Jersey city and i went to willie floods office and she is a WOMEN stop calling her a man... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 6667 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 05:11:06 Subject: NEW CUNNINGHAM TEAM Urban Times News September 17, 2004 - September 23, 2004 NEW CUNNINGHAM TEAM by Arnold Stovell Reform Democratic Organization forces gathered at their Claremont Avenue office on Wednesday to strategize and announce their ticket. The New Cunningham Team: Jeff Dublin, Willie Flood, and Kabili Tayari will be the candidates supported by the party in the upcoming November elections. Jeff Dublin will seek his own term as the Freeholder for the 3rd district, having won the seat in a heated election among county representatives. The previous Freeholder, Hudson County Democrat William Bracker, a former deputy police director, resigned after admitting that he had accepted bribes in return for supporting Hudson County and Jersey City Police contracts. Dublin is an energetic and respected Board of Education board member who won his election convincingly over several incumbents. He is also a favored son in the Reform Democratic Organization. Not only did the beloved, deceased Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham choose him for the position but also Dublin was the unanimous choice among all Jersey City ward leaders for Freeholder. His father (Matthew Dublin) left a legacy deserving of the designation that a portion of Storm's Avenue between Monticello and Summit be known as Matthew Dublin Avenue. Jeffery ably follows in his father's footsteps. He is well-respected by the community and even the city council who unanimously passed the resolution, commented on his father's legacy and that which Jeff was establishing. "We have three important elections coming up," said Dublin. "These elections are going to set the tone for the next four years. We can't do it alone. We need help. We've got a lot of candidates that are going to fight for the mayorship. The men had City Hall for years. It'll take a woman to clean this house up. I support Willie Flood because she is that woman who is going to put our house in order. I was honored to become freeholder in the third district. There were problems in the third district. I'm a guy who is going to stand up for the rights of people in this district. I can't be bought and I can't be told what to do. I believe that the direction that this campaign will go will really answer the quality of life issues. We need more police officers, we need jobs, we need stronger education for our children and golden neighborhoods like Glen Cunningham wanted. We believe in that and we continue to deal with that everyday in our lives. Having Kabili in Trenton, and me in county government, and Willie as the mayor, for the first time in history you have three elected officials that can work together for the common good of the people." And, as the Urban Times News first reported, Willie Flood will be the Reform Democrat candidate for Mayor. An aide to the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, Flood was instrumental in helping him achieve his vision of a better Jersey City with safer streets, stable property taxes, and convenient citizen access to city government. Flood is a longtime Jersey City resident with deep ties to the community. She has served as a teacher, principal, and Board of Education member distilling her vision for Jersey City's children. She has worked in consumer and senior affairs recognizing the needs of elder citizens and families. She has been a City Council member, and officer in both the Hudson County Democratic Organization and now the Reform Democratic Organization, showing her knowledge of local and county government as well as her ability to develop relationships across party lines. Her capacity for leadership is overlooked because Flood has not sought office, but been called by her community to serve. When an independent poll of early candidates was conducted, Flood was a formidable write-in candidate, even though she was not originally listed among the choices. "I am really grateful for all of you seeing the potential in me," said Flood humbly as she approached the podium. "I am going to go down there and first take the meanness out of City Hall. Glenn D. Cunningham did leave a legacy, and I am going down there to complete it. When we bought our house it cost us thirteen thousand dollars, now we pay taxes in the amount of thirteen thousand dollars. People move in from New York and they are used to paying $1400 a month for rent. If you live in Jersey City and you love Jersey City, we ought to be able to stay here in Jersey City. I want to make sure that the streets are safe. When our Mayor Glenn Cunningham put rookie officers on our streets, they were looking out for everyone on the street. Seniors could walk the streets and feel safe. They would make cars move that blocked bus stops and traffic. Glen knew that rookie police officers would pay attention to all that. They were fresh enough to get the job done. That's what I'm going to do. We want to be able to send our children to school without having to drag them down the street ourselves afraid for their safety. Another thing that Glenn did was start the Second Chance Program. Some of our young men and women want to now straighten up their lives, realizing the value of having a good record, except they can't work anywhere else but Second Chance. The only thing that I see with this Second Chance program is we need more money to keep it going and expand it. I need your support. I'm the only one who can fulfill Glen's legacy and I am the only one who will go down to city hall and take out the meanness. This is a movement women and this is our time. It will only happen if you go out and tell your friends, let's support Willie Flood for Mayor. I am going to be for the people." Kabili Tayari, head of the New Jersey Chapter of the NAACP will run for State Senator, striving to occupy the seat vacated by the death of Jersey City Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham and, as Reform Democrats describe, stolen by Hudson County Democrats. Hudson County Democrats snubbed Sandra Cunningham as the widow of the state Senate seat, and installed Bayonne Mayor Joe Doria, a Hudson County loyalist Cunningham had regularly spanked in bids for state Senate. Traditionally the party and state legislatures offer the widow of the Senator the opportunity to serve out their spouse's term. Tayari is an outspoken and well-respected activist whose activities have been as national as local. His background reflects the controversy of his principles, but he is trusted in Jersey City. He is a great negotiator and relationship builder whose efforts behind the scenes are not lauded because he has not sought fame. But this does not mean he is shy. Tayari is quick to speak out against injustice no matter what the source, and finds that commonality within the nominees on this ticket. "No one asked me to do this. Several persons even outside of our city said that we have to do more than take people to court. We have to do more than just protest the lack of representation, the disenfranchisement and the great racial coup, in the attempt to pull a Democratic Party George Bush right here in Hudson County. That was when Joe Doria said in the newspapers that he would take Glen D. Cunningham and he would take the Reform Democrat Organization to court and charge them with fraud. They not only charged them with fraud and misappropriation of finances, but they took 1784 persons to court (90% of them were African American) and charged them with voter fraud and being an illegal voter. Some of our family members, friends and leaders were on that list. And there were people who went in there (court) and swore alongside Joe Doria that those charges were true. The courts threw them out. They were not successful like George Bush, but before then they claimed that Acting Mayor Harvey Smith was their number one person of color. So when they met in Bayonne to pull the coup, even though the people were demanding that they wanted Sandra Cunningham, they (Hudson County Democrats) didn't even choose Harvey. They chose the very person who made the Klu Klux KlanGeorge Bush coup against us last summer. There is nothing else that you need to remember." Tayari reminisced about a television program he'd seen. It discussed King's march from Selma to Montgomery and he explained how it inspired further considerations relevant to the current times. "In there, King talks about that nobody will take away our right to self-determination. Not Malcolm X, King talked about this. And we are not going to give anybody, anybody" he repeated emphatically, "our constitutional and human right. We are not in a campaign. We are at war. Folks are out to take away all of our power, every last drop. They want the freeholder. They want the mayor. They want the senate. They want the assembly. They want the doghouse. They want it all, and don't want us and other persons of color and poor whites to have anything. Poor people didn't see the day of light until July 1, 2001 when not only Glenn D. Cunningham but the people, and the Reform Democrats, walked into power. Everything we did was not right, but that's true in our families. I have a son who is a drug dealer. I still love him. He's my son. He knows that he cannot stay with me but I still love him. He's my son. When he gets his act together he can come back home. I'm not going to stop loving him but I am not going to let him play the relationship so he can deal dope. Well there is all kinds of dope, and there are some folks who are selling us dope right now." Applause signaled that listeners knew of what he spoke. "Anybody who can't stand here against Doria, tell them we're going to leave them over there. I don't want anyone to say you're caught up in this Kabili thing you say no, I'm caught up fighting for my rights. We need to take personalities out of this. People love to quote King and now they love to quote Glenn. What bothers me is when people are dead, who were great when they were alive, and now you are quoting them, when they're dead. If you had nothing to say when he was alive, don't say nothing about him now that he's away. We need to set the record straight. We weren't Barack Obama. Don't get me wrong; the brother was on the money, clean cut, well-to-do, welldressed. I've got nothing against that. I'm clean-cut and welldressed. But Al Sharpton put it on the line when he said, 'We died for this and it ain't for sale for Bush or nobody else, for John Kerry or nobody else.' "This campaign is open to anybody who stands up for truth, justice and what's right. That's what Willie Flood is talking about, that's what Jeff is talking about, anybody who is willing to stand up for truth justice and what's right. I have not committed corruption. I have never misrepresented you. I have never sold you out. Tell them when I was on the Board of Education they never saw money used appropriately until I was President. When I was on the Board of Ed my people did not just gain but all people gained. Tell them when I was the Director of Economic Opportunity, I didn't fight for just the black community, I fought for all to get their fair share of what was coming to us. When he (Joe Doria) was Speaker of the Assembly how did any of us benefit from that? They talk about the Gold Coast. Well everything from the Bayonne waterfront line down to the Hoboken waterfront line is the Gold Coast. And none of us in Bayonne or Jersey City, or the small white business person or the small working class person is getting any job or any contract from Bayonne to Hoboken on the Gold Coast." Tayari expressed the anger of the constituency but also offered a challenge to debate the issues. To anybody that says that Kabili wants to make this a black thing, tell them (Hudson County Democrat supporters) I didn't make it that, you made it that, and I don't mind addressing it. Because when you went to court last summer you did that. You made it that. Like King, and Malcolm, and Glenn, and the Reformed Democrats, I am not going to run away from that. There is courage in this campaign. We need to be clear that there are differences (in people of color): but it is time to come together as Americans. There was only one place of departure. Some of the ships came from France and dropped folks off in Haiti; some ships came from Spain and dropped folks off in Central and South America, and some of the ships came from England and dropped folks in America and the Caribbean - the same destinations, the so-called New World." Kabili concluded, "I pray that God will stay with us through this. I believe that anywhere justice is at, God is at. Glenn was a good man, but he was not our first good man. We need to understand that there are good people among us. So Joe Doria, you've got to go. You're record says you're guilty for misrepresentation, discrimination, disenfranchisement, racism and corruption." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Please Ms. Flood posted Message 6668 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 06:44:34 Subject: Re: Willie Flood is a women : Will you kindly get someone intelligent to do these postings for you. It is perpetuating the myth that though you are a lovely person, you are stupid and an airhead. It is as obvious as J Dolan is Jimmy Dixon that one person is trying to be representative of your whole support base. This is an insult and disservice to you and your base as I know you are an educated, intelligent WOMAN (note the correct spelling for the singular) and I gather the rest would be apalled to know that they are being portrayed as foul mouthed, ebonics speaking dolts. Thank you Ms. Flood, you are a fine WOMAN. : I just moved to Jersey city and i went to willie floods office and she is a WOMEN stop calling her a man... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Because posted Message 6669 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 06:54:43 Subject: Re: DeGise Gay Unlike Healy, he cant find his pants. : SInce the Healy people want everyone to come out of the closet why doesn't DeGise come out? : : : Healy people don;t like gay people, and that is all the justification we need for not supporting a candidate who is gay. : : We only trust white guys who drink alot, those are the people who we relate to and will vote for. : : We'll take the black and hispanic vote if they want to vote for us but they know not to expect anything in return from a Healy administration. : : We are true blue bigots and are proud of it! : : Just look at who our leaders are? Menedez, DeGise, Gaughan ***************** End Of Article ****************** Theresa de León, Republican Delegate from Hudson County posted Message 6670 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 07:18:34 Subject: I agree with Jose Arango's decision Joe Doria knows the New Jersey State Legislature better than anyone else. He is the best person to fight for the interests of the residents of the 31st District. Joe Doria shares the same family values as the Hudson County GOP. I support Jose Arango's decision to back Joe Doria for the State Senate. Theresa de León Republican Delegate from Hudson County : JERSEY CITY - Hudson County Republican Party (HCRP) Chairman Jose Arango and Vice-Chair Deborah Cuseglio today announced that the HCRP is supporting interim Senator Joseph V. Doria, Jr. in his bid to fill the unexpired term of the late Senator Glenn Cunningham, who passed away in May. : In addition to the HCRP's backing, the Republican city committees in Jersey City and Bayonne are supporting Doria and are urging Republicans in the 31st Legislative District to vote for Doria on Election Day, Tuesday, November 2. Republican State Committee Members Lee Lichtenberger and Maryann Kelleher are also supporting Doria. : "I have known Joe Doria for more than 20 years and I can't think of another public servant who works harder and more effectively for his constituents," said Arango, who served with Doria in the New Jersey General Assembly from 1986 to 1988. "Joe Doria has always put the people he represents first and his party label second in order to get things done. We would have put him on the Republican line if our State constitution allowed it, like in New York." : Bayonne City Republican Chairman Vincent Cuseglio, Jersey City Republican Party Vice Chairwoman Sonia Hernandez Schulman and Jersey City Republican Chairman Russ Maffei are joining Arango in supporting Doria for Senate because of Doria's strong track record and ability to deliver for the people he was elected to serve. : Bayonne City Republican Chairman Cuseglio added, "Republicans and Democrats don't often agree on much, but we can all agree that the only choice for Senate is Joe Doria. While others want only to grandstand and sling arrows, Joe Doria is a consensus builder who knows it is more important to get results than to showboat. I hope everyone joins me in voting for Joe Doria on November 2." : "Joe Doria is unbossed and unbought, pure and simple," Jersey City GOP Vice Chairwoman Schulman stated. "He is a proven leader who has worked to ease the burden of property taxes by fighting to increase the Homestead Rebate for seniors and NJ Saver rebates for families. Joe Doria deserves our support on Election Day." : “Over the years Joe Doria Has proven to be bi-partisan," added Jersey City GOP Chairman Maffei. “With no Republican in the race, experience is out best choice!” : "I am thankful for the support of the HCRP leadership and its members," Doria concluded. "During my 25-years years in the Legislature as Assemblyman, Speaker, Assembly Democratic Leader, and now as Senator, I have always tried to work toward the common good for the people of Hudson County and New Jersey. If I am blessed to be elected this November, I will continue to work on behalf or all the people to provide property tax relief, to improve our schools and to bring more quality jobs to Jersey City and Bayonne." : ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** Purity posted Message 6671 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 07:57:02 Subject: Porky Pig Menendez needs a good defeat in Jersey City Votes Stop this Guy right in his tracks.Xanadu & Golf Course for the rich is too much to take. Even For brain dead Jersey City Voters. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Manzo Gate posted Message 6672 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 08:09:56 Subject: Breaking & Entering Corry Short now a Captain for the Jersey City Police Department responed to a breaking and entering of a police officers house on the Western Slope. When it was discovered that the Bandits were Manzo cops, Corry did not arrest them. The bandits were trained by Jerry McConn. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just ignore the Clown posted Message 6673 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 08:29:29 Subject: Don't let Dolan get your goat...he's an idiot : : I just moved to Jersey city and i went to willie floods office and she is a WOMEN stop calling her a man... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cute Plan posted Message 6674 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 08:48:30 Subject: Menendez playing each Mayoral Condidate against each Other For his own sake.Wake up and smell the roses clowns. You are all being used by Porky Pig.Just talk to each other to find out the game he is playing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gepeto posted Message 6675 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 09:00:43 Subject: Re: Breaking & Entering Pinnochio, if you keep lying, your nose will keep growing. : Corry Short now a Captain for the Jersey City Police Department responed to a breaking and entering of a police officers house on the Western Slope. When it was discovered that the Bandits were Manzo cops, Corry did not arrest them. The bandits were trained by Jerry McConn. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Down with Manzo posted Message 6676 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 09:50:57 Subject: Re: Breaking & Entering Nice try, but the story is true and will be the topic of discussion at court today! : : Corry Short now a Captain for the Jersey City Police Department responed to a breaking and entering of a police officers house on the Western Slope. When it was discovered that the Bandits were Manzo cops, Corry did not arrest them. The bandits were trained by Jerry McConn. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let's See What the AG Comes Up With posted Message 6677 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 10:09:02 Subject: I Hope Your Right Can't wait for the AG to confirm your side of the story. : FYI his mother was taken in because of her case. This was also during the time that we just completed renovations and about 15 seniors joined our home. She was just 1 of 15! : If you do you homework any patient that is in advanced stanges are moved up on the list. I know this as a fact! ***************** End Of Article ****************** So He Can Play Golf With His Political Consultants posted Message 6678 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 10:14:48 Subject: It's A Gift for DeGise DeGise wanted the golf course so he didn't have to travel all the way to Union County to play with all his consultants with fat county contracts. : Stop this Guy right in his tracks.Xanadu & Golf Course for the rich is too much to take. Even For brain dead Jersey City Voters. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Considering what posted Message 6679 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 10:45:06 Subject: Re: Breaking & Entering ::May be coming out of court today, this is a pitiful act of deparation. : Nice try, but the story is true and will be the topic of discussion at court today! : : : Corry Short now a Captain for the Jersey City Police Department responed to a breaking and entering of a police officers house on the Western Slope. When it was discovered that the Bandits were Manzo cops, Corry did not arrest them. The bandits were trained by Jerry McConn. ***************** End Of Article ****************** El Rushbo posted Message 6680 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 10:54:29 Subject: Arango-What is your Story? Have you no shame.Republican Party can sure do without the likes of you.I hope the state Party is keeping a close eye on your disgraceful acts over the years.America the beautiful. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GO JERRY posted Message 6681 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 12:04:57 Subject: Re: Homophobes for Healy : : YOU ARE AN IDIOT! GO JERRY!! HEALY IN NOV! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GO JERRY posted Message 6682 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 12:04:58 Subject: Re: Homophobes for Healy : : YOU ARE AN IDIOT! GO JERRY!! HEALY IN NOV! ***************** End Of Article ****************** You McManzo people are pathetic posted Message 6683 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 12:49:07 Subject: McManzo....the new clowns in town When you have no platform....no new ideas and no vision...what do you do? Throw mud. You people are pathetic. : Jerry is definitely the best Flasher in the race. : Hope I don;t get the opportunity to see him flash. : : : COUNCILMAN AT LARGE JERRAMIAH T HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD TO THE BAR IN A POLL CONDUCTED INDEPENDENTLY BY A MARYLAND POLLING CO. : : : HE IS LEADING THE CLOSEST CANDIDATE BY 7%AND IS IN THE NUMBER 1 POSITION. *HIC* ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watchin the Clowns posted Message 6684 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 12:52:02 Subject: McManzo...all dress up with nowhere to go Watchin the McManzo campaign is like watching Bozo at a black tie affair. All dressed up but totally out of place. These clowns deserve eachother. From now on....its McManzo for Laugh Track... for that you have my vote. Otherwise...I assume your campaign is just for laughs, cause that seems to be all you are gonna get. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Baby posted Message 6685 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 12:57:16 Subject: Re: McManzo....the new clowns in town ::::Check back on the board. 99 & 44/100% of the garbage is by Team *HIC* Healy. Personal attacks from the get go. But if the mud is picked up and thrown back - forget about it. But keep on spinning and lying if that is what you need to do to make yourself feel better. : When you have no platform....no new ideas and no vision...what do you do? Throw mud. You people are pathetic. : : Jerry is definitely the best Flasher in the race. : : Hope I don;t get the opportunity to see him flash. : : : : COUNCILMAN AT LARGE JERRAMIAH T HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD TO THE BAR IN A POLL CONDUCTED INDEPENDENTLY BY A MARYLAND POLLING CO. : : : : HE IS LEADING THE CLOSEST CANDIDATE BY 7%AND IS IN THE NUMBER 1 POSITION. *HIC* ***************** End Of Article ****************** GO AWAY JERRY posted Message 6686 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 12:59:36 Subject: Re: Homophobes for Healy : : : YOU ARE AN IDIOT! GO AWAY JERRY!! MANZO IN NOV! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 6687 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 13:04:53 Subject: Re: Homophobes for Healy : : : YOU ARE AN IDIOT! PLEASE COME HOME AND ACT LIKE A HUSBAND. I PROMISE NOT TO LET THE BEER GET WARM AGAIN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** With Himself posted Message 6688 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 13:40:44 Subject: Menendez Playing -- Bobby M's shill Jerry Healy is all he's got. If Healy goes down none of the other candidates will welcome him with open arms. Manzo was with Glenn last year and can point to the fact that he defeated Menendez last year, he doesn't need him now. Harvey was betrayed by Menendez, pay back time if Harvey is re-elected. Willie Flood, she's too smart to fall for Menendez's con. She knows Menendez is a racial bigot. Start crawling on your hands and knees to the Mayor's swearing in Bobby M. , because it ain't gona be Heal-lee! Bobby M and Bobby J --- perfect together. : For his own sake.Wake up and smell the roses clowns. You are all being used by Porky Pig.Just talk to each other to find out the game he is playing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** wHERE IS YOUR MOTHER? posted Message 6689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 13:47:04 Subject: dONATO BATISTA -- IT SEEMS THE PERKS OF BEING A WELL-CONNECTED POLITICAL HACK IN HUDSON COUNTY NEVER END. NOW ITS DO-NOTHING BATISTA'S MOTHER WHO JUMPED TO THE HEAD OF THE LINE TO GET INTO ST. JOSEPH'S HOME, JOINING TOMMY DEGISE'S MOTHER. IS THERE A QUID PRO QUO GOING ON HERE? ARE TAXPAYERS MONEY BEING USED TO SUBSIDIZE THE LIFE-STYLES OF THOSE IN POWER? PETER HARVEY, ITS TIME YOU VISITED HUDSON COUNTY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** STAY AWAY posted Message 6690 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 13:50:01 Subject: HEY! JOSE' FROM ANY LINKS TO THE CORRUPT HCDO. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT REPUBLICANS NOT DEMOCRATS, ESPECIALLY THE CREW FROM THE HCDO. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND GET ANOTHER HOBBY. THE HCRP DOESN;T NEED YOUR HELP ANYMORE. : Have you no shame.Republican Party can sure do without the likes of you.I hope the state Party is keeping a close eye on your disgraceful acts over the years.America the beautiful. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Race to the Bar posted Message 6691 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 13:55:35 Subject: Healy Wins! Its not even close. Jerry's got poll position at the Astor. : ::::Check back on the board. 99 & 44/100% of the garbage is by Team *HIC* Healy. Personal attacks from the get go. But if the mud is picked up and thrown back - forget about it. But keep on spinning and lying if that is what you need to do to make yourself feel better. : : When you have no platform....no new ideas and no vision...what do you do? Throw mud. You people are pathetic. : : : Jerry is definitely the best Flasher in the race. : : : Hope I don;t get the opportunity to see him flash. : : : : : COUNCILMAN AT LARGE JERRAMIAH T HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD TO THE BAR IN A POLL CONDUCTED INDEPENDENTLY BY A MARYLAND POLLING CO. : : : : : HE IS LEADING THE CLOSEST CANDIDATE BY 7%AND IS IN THE NUMBER 1 POSITION. *HIC* ***************** End Of Article ****************** In Denial posted Message 6692 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 13:55:47 Subject: Re: McManzo....the new clowns in town You take your lead from a convict. You do his bidding and you deny being in the mud. As for percentage of personal attacks... there are more "Healy is a Drunk" posts by you folks than I have seen "Manzo is a Gay" posts from the Healy people. Since I don't work for either side...maybe that's how I should decide who to vote for. Count up the garbage posts and vote for the one with fewer slanderous remarks against his opponent. Seems reasonable. : ::::Check back on the board. 99 & 44/100% of the garbage is by Team *HIC* Healy. Personal attacks from the get go. But if the mud is picked up and thrown back - forget about it. But keep on spinning and lying if that is what you need to do to make yourself feel better. : : When you have no platform....no new ideas and no vision...what do you do? Throw mud. You people are pathetic. : : : Jerry is definitely the best Flasher in the race. : : : Hope I don;t get the opportunity to see him flash. : : : : : COUNCILMAN AT LARGE JERRAMIAH T HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD TO THE BAR IN A POLL CONDUCTED INDEPENDENTLY BY A MARYLAND POLLING CO. : : : : : HE IS LEADING THE CLOSEST CANDIDATE BY 7%AND IS IN THE NUMBER 1 POSITION. *HIC* ***************** End Of Article ****************** How about a public statement posted Message 6693 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 14:00:03 Subject: DeGise? I think its time Tom Degise comes clean about the alleged favoritism shown to his mother and now to Do Nothing Batista, who is also on the county payroll. I think I'll send this post to the Star Ledger, JJ and Reporter. : IT SEEMS THE PERKS OF BEING A WELL-CONNECTED POLITICAL HACK IN HUDSON COUNTY NEVER END. : NOW ITS DO-NOTHING BATISTA'S MOTHER WHO JUMPED TO THE HEAD OF THE LINE TO GET INTO ST. JOSEPH'S HOME, JOINING TOMMY DEGISE'S MOTHER. : IS THERE A QUID PRO QUO GOING ON HERE? : ARE TAXPAYERS MONEY BEING USED TO SUBSIDIZE THE LIFE-STYLES OF THOSE IN POWER? : PETER HARVEY, ITS TIME YOU VISITED HUDSON COUNTY. : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stop Watching Kiddie P_rn Online posted Message 6694 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 14:05:23 Subject: Re: DeGise Hey Tommy, better stop visiting the kiddie p_rn sites. We are logging your url's and will turn it over at the appropriate time. Better Watch it! Tommy Boy! : SInce the Healy people want everyone to come out of the closet why doesn't DeGise come out? : : : Healy people don;t like gay people, and that is all the justification we need for not supporting a candidate who is gay. : : We only trust white guys who drink alot, those are the people who we relate to and will vote for. : : We'll take the black and hispanic vote if they want to vote for us but they know not to expect anything in return from a Healy administration. : : We are true blue bigots and are proud of it! : : Just look at who our leaders are? Menedez, DeGise, Gaughan ***************** End Of Article ****************** SAME OLD - SAME OLD posted Message 6695 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 14:13:17 Subject: HEALY POSTS THE POSTS BY HEALY SUPPORTERS ARE REALLY GETTING BORING, ALMOST AS BORING AS THEIR CANDIDATE, I GUESS THAT'S WHY THEY SUPPORT HIM. ANYWAY OF SEEING FUTURE POSTS WITHOUT THE FOLLOWING WORDS: HOMO GAY A$$ HOLE EX-CON JERRY IS NOT A DRUNK ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lois Shaw posted Message 6696 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 14:18:01 Subject: Re: dONATO BATISTA -- : IT SEEMS THE PERKS OF BEING A WELL-CONNECTED POLITICAL HACK IN HUDSON COUNTY NEVER END. : NOW ITS DO-NOTHING BATISTA'S MOTHER WHO JUMPED TO THE HEAD OF THE LINE TO GET INTO ST. JOSEPH'S HOME, JOINING TOMMY DEGISE'S MOTHER. : IS THERE A QUID PRO QUO GOING ON HERE? : ARE TAXPAYERS MONEY BEING USED TO SUBSIDIZE THE LIFE-STYLES OF THOSE IN POWER? : PETER HARVEY, ITS TIME YOU VISITED HUDSON COUNTY. : ***************** End Of Article ****************** WHAT'S WRONG WITH REPUBLICANS posted Message 6697 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 14:19:24 Subject: Re: I agree with Jose Arango's decision ARE YOU SERIOUS? YOU CAN'T FIND ONE QUALIFIED REPUBLICAN TO BE A CANDIDATE? NO DISRESPECT TO JOE, BUT COME ON! JOE IS IN THE HCDO! YOU WANT TO JUST ABDICATE TO THE HCDO? I THOUGHT THE HCRP WAS TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE HCDO, NOT TO BE ITS PARTNER. MENENDEZ MUST BE USING THIS POST WITH HIS REPUBLICAN FRIENDS IN WASHINGTON. 'I EVEN GOT THE REPUBLICANS SUPPORTING ME IN HC!' THIS IS REALLY EMBARASSING. I THINK I'LL CALL UP RUSH L WITH THE NEWS. : Joe Doria knows the New Jersey State Legislature better than anyone else. He is the best person to fight for the interests of the residents of the 31st District. : Joe Doria shares the same family values as the Hudson County GOP. : I support Jose Arango's decision to back Joe Doria for the State Senate. : Theresa de León : Republican Delegate from Hudson County : : JERSEY CITY - Hudson County Republican Party (HCRP) Chairman Jose Arango and Vice-Chair Deborah Cuseglio today announced that the HCRP is supporting interim Senator Joseph V. Doria, Jr. in his bid to fill the unexpired term of the late Senator Glenn Cunningham, who passed away in May. : : In addition to the HCRP's backing, the Republican city committees in Jersey City and Bayonne are supporting Doria and are urging Republicans in the 31st Legislative District to vote for Doria on Election Day, Tuesday, November 2. Republican State Committee Members Lee Lichtenberger and Maryann Kelleher are also supporting Doria. : : "I have known Joe Doria for more than 20 years and I can't think of another public servant who works harder and more effectively for his constituents," said Arango, who served with Doria in the New Jersey General Assembly from 1986 to 1988. "Joe Doria has always put the people he represents first and his party label second in order to get things done. We would have put him on the Republican line if our State constitution allowed it, like in New York." : : Bayonne City Republican Chairman Vincent Cuseglio, Jersey City Republican Party Vice Chairwoman Sonia Hernandez Schulman and Jersey City Republican Chairman Russ Maffei are joining Arango in supporting Doria for Senate because of Doria's strong track record and ability to deliver for the people he was elected to serve. : : Bayonne City Republican Chairman Cuseglio added, "Republicans and Democrats don't often agree on much, but we can all agree that the only choice for Senate is Joe Doria. While others want only to grandstand and sling arrows, Joe Doria is a consensus builder who knows it is more important to get results than to showboat. I hope everyone joins me in voting for Joe Doria on November 2." : : "Joe Doria is unbossed and unbought, pure and simple," Jersey City GOP Vice Chairwoman Schulman stated. "He is a proven leader who has worked to ease the burden of property taxes by fighting to increase the Homestead Rebate for seniors and NJ Saver rebates for families. Joe Doria deserves our support on Election Day." : : “Over the years Joe Doria Has proven to be bi-partisan," added Jersey City GOP Chairman Maffei. “With no Republican in the race, experience is out best choice!” : : "I am thankful for the support of the HCRP leadership and its members," Doria concluded. "During my 25-years years in the Legislature as Assemblyman, Speaker, Assembly Democratic Leader, and now as Senator, I have always tried to work toward the common good for the people of Hudson County and New Jersey. If I am blessed to be elected this November, I will continue to work on behalf or all the people to provide property tax relief, to improve our schools and to bring more quality jobs to Jersey City and Bayonne." : : ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** wHERE IS YOUR BRAINS? posted Message 6698 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 14:26:28 Subject: IS THERE A QUID PRO QUO GOING ON HERE? Mrs Batista (Danny's mom) passed away over twenty years ago. You need to do your homework before posting!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Back in your spider hole posted Message 6699 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 14:40:19 Subject: Re: McManzo....the new clowns in town :: Your very terminalogy shows that you are a Healy faithful. Gaughan is a greedy, spiteful and a drunk. Demelier is Gerry McCann's protege, look who he is working for. Then there is Jimmy DICKson, who owes a roof over his head and a job to Gaughan because he married his daughter. Not aligned with either side? I think not. : You take your lead from a convict. You do his bidding and you deny being in the mud. As for percentage of personal attacks... there are more "Healy is a Drunk" posts by you folks than I have seen "Manzo is a Gay" posts from the Healy people. Since I don't work for either side...maybe that's how I should decide who to vote for. Count up the garbage posts and vote for the one with fewer slanderous remarks against his opponent. Seems reasonable. : : ::::Check back on the board. 99 & 44/100% of the garbage is by Team *HIC* Healy. Personal attacks from the get go. But if the mud is picked up and thrown back - forget about it. But keep on spinning and lying if that is what you need to do to make yourself feel better. : : : When you have no platform....no new ideas and no vision...what do you do? Throw mud. You people are pathetic. : : : : Jerry is definitely the best Flasher in the race. : : : : Hope I don;t get the opportunity to see him flash. : : : : : : COUNCILMAN AT LARGE JERRAMIAH T HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD TO THE BAR IN A POLL CONDUCTED INDEPENDENTLY BY A MARYLAND POLLING CO. : : : : : : HE IS LEADING THE CLOSEST CANDIDATE BY 7%AND IS IN THE NUMBER 1 POSITION. *HIC* ***************** End Of Article ****************** YAWN posted Message 6700 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 14:45:25 Subject: Re: HEALY POSTS ::PROBABLY NOT. : THE POSTS BY HEALY SUPPORTERS ARE REALLY GETTING BORING, ALMOST AS BORING AS THEIR CANDIDATE, I GUESS THAT'S WHY THEY SUPPORT HIM. : ANYWAY OF SEEING FUTURE POSTS WITHOUT THE FOLLOWING WORDS: : HOMO : GAY : A$$ HOLE : EX-CON : JERRY IS NOT A DRUNK ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where's the discussion of the issues? posted Message 6701 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 14:50:53 Subject: Hey...all you low level hacks read this! This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** tubebarred posted Message 6702 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 15:37:47 Subject: Re: Hey...all you low level hacks read this! Ok, here is something useful! Lou Manzo has promised that if elected there will be a Rainbow Flag flying at city hall. Flags and Fags programs to come. Residents will also be able to get FREE insider trading training by Lou. Jerry McCann will support the "Convicts are people too" program. Corry will show local PD's how to keep jail cells clear by just letting criminals go! More to come. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ho Hum posted Message 6703 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 15:45:07 Subject: Re: Hey...all you low level hacks read this! No substance and no style. What's up...you can't post something that makes an undecided voter want to vote for your candidate? Tell me...what's Healy running for...just for the power and paycheck or does he have a real platform except "everyone else is running so I should too". Tell me why (real reasons only...not this bullsh*t) I should vote for Healy. : Ok, here is something useful! Lou Manzo has promised that if elected there will be a Rainbow Flag flying at city hall. Flags and Fags programs to come. Residents will also be able to get FREE insider trading training by Lou. : Jerry McCann will support the "Convicts are people too" program. Corry will show local PD's how to keep jail cells clear by just letting criminals go! : More to come. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom DeGise posted Message 6704 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 15:46:21 Subject: Re: Here I Am One can only imagine how distasteful it is to read about your 87 year old Mom on this cesspool of a message board. my Mom entered Cusack Center last year after suffering thru both a serious injury and an illness. She entered as a non-medicaid patientas there were and still are open beds at this great facility. In fact they have asked us to distribute their pamphlets to help attract new clients. Any child who is faced with the decision of placing a parent in a nursing home, as my sister and I have, knows how heart wrenching that decision is. To have this used as political fodder to score points in an election I am not even a candidate in is the act of an anonymous coward. This is a one time response as I will not enter this sty again. I have supplied my personal email for anyone wishing any intelligent discourse on this or anything else.BTW, Dan Battista's mom passed awy several decades ago. Where exactly is the line we are not suopposed to cross? Tom : I think I'll send this post to the Star Ledger, JJ and Reporter. : : : IT SEEMS THE PERKS OF BEING A WELL-CONNECTED POLITICAL HACK IN HUDSON COUNTY NEVER END. : : NOW ITS DO-NOTHING BATISTA'S MOTHER WHO JUMPED TO THE HEAD OF THE LINE TO GET INTO ST. JOSEPH'S HOME, JOINING TOMMY DEGISE'S MOTHER. : : IS THERE A QUID PRO QUO GOING ON HERE? : : ARE TAXPAYERS MONEY BEING USED TO SUBSIDIZE THE LIFE-STYLES OF THOSE IN POWER? : : PETER HARVEY, ITS TIME YOU VISITED HUDSON COUNTY. : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Degise posted Message 6705 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 15:54:09 Subject: Re: Here I Am : One can only imagine how distasteful it is to read about your 87 year old Mom on this cesspool of a message board. my Mom entered Cusack Center last year after suffering thru both a serious injury and an illness. She entered as a non-medicaid patientas there were and still are open beds at this great facility. In fact they have asked us to distribute their pamphlets to help attract new clients. Any child who is faced with the decision of placing a parent in a nursing home, as my sister and I have, knows how heart wrenching that decision is. To have this used as political fodder to score points in an election I am not even a candidate in is the act of an anonymous coward. This is a one time response as I will not enter this sty again. I have supplied my personal email for anyone wishing any intelligent discourse on this or anything else.BTW, Dan Battista's mom passed awy several decades ago. Where exactly is the line we are not suopposed to cross? Tom . : : : : : Sorry about the typos and the email is uglytie101@yahoo.com Tom ***************** End Of Article ****************** Whatever he said posted Message 6706 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 16:00:02 Subject: I'll have 2 : :: Lei ha portato le parole dalla mia bocca. : : Quanto divertente è che... il "chow ". Gli italiani non stanno sostenendo l'inondazione più che i Pali. Questo alberino è supposto per provenire da un italiano ma questa persona non sa che la differenza betweeen una razza del cane e di una parola italiana comune. : : : The Italian community commends Mrs Flood for stepping to the plate so these greedy degenerates don't get City Hall. Chow! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'll have 2 of those posted Message 6707 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 16:01:14 Subject: Sounds like a menu. : Quanto divertente è che... il "chow ". Gli italiani non stanno sostenendo l'inondazione più che i Pali. Questo alberino è supposto per provenire da un italiano ma questa persona non sa che la differenza betweeen una razza del cane e di una parola italiana comune. : : The Italian community commends Mrs Flood for stepping to the plate so these greedy degenerates don't get City Hall. Chow! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not true posted Message 6708 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 16:05:59 Subject: Re: Hey...all you low level hacks read this! The issues are the mindstates of the people leaving these posts. They disrespect people and call names even threaten people. I have seen posts where someone in Willie's camp actually talked about she really cares for the city which is so true. I haven't seen Manzo harvey or healy say anything about the people. They only focus on themselves. Which will be the same story if we don't elect Willie to this position. She really does give a damn about the walfare of the city!! Go Willie! : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Quiet Supporter posted Message 6709 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 16:12:55 Subject: THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE ARE VOTING FOR WILLIE FLOOD!!! How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Are Better posted Message 6710 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 16:13:17 Subject: Banana Republics You got it right. Only thing I would take issue with is calling JC a Banna Republic. I would classify Bannana Republics ahead of JC when it comes to the quality of the govenment / elected officials. Hey Bobby M.! Do you get it! Fidel is doing a better job than you! : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** So true posted Message 6711 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 16:14:41 Subject: Re: THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE ARE VOTING FOR WILLIE FLOOD!!! She is the one to beat!! But she is the best for the job because she won't be bought. : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I wrote the SAME THING a week ago posted Message 6712 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 16:35:18 Subject: This Board is a reflection of JC politics...it sux : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well.... posted Message 6713 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 16:41:57 Subject: Re: Hey...all you low level hacks read this! Then you tell me why Willie is better than anyone else. What are her issues and why is she running. What are her positions on various topics that are affecting all of us. I don't want to hear fluff pieces...I want real answers. If Willie cares so much, these answer should come easily to her. As far as the other candidates...they've shown that they don't want any real improvements in Jersey City by their contemptible posts. : The issues are the mindstates of the people leaving these posts. They disrespect people and call names even threaten people. I have seen posts where someone in Willie's camp actually talked about she really cares for the city which is so true. I haven't seen Manzo harvey or healy say anything about the people. They only focus on themselves. Which will be the same story if we don't elect Willie to this position. She really does give a damn about the walfare of the city!! Go Willie! : : : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Flood's a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** We're all losers with this political nightmare posted Message 6714 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 16:44:43 Subject: Re: Banana Republics Banana republics are better if you are buying khakis. So obviously, I am not the only one feeling this way then. Why has it been allowed to continue? : You got it right. Only thing I would take issue with is calling JC a Banna Republic. I would classify Bannana Republics ahead of JC when it comes to the quality of the govenment / elected officials. Hey Bobby M.! Do you get it! Fidel is doing a better job than you! : : : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan is a Low Life posted Message 6715 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 16:46:44 Subject: Let's hear about some issues I agree with you completely. Its a shame that small-minded loud mouths seem to be accomodated at every level of politics. Especially here in Jersey City. And this post board is another reflection of that reality. There are a lot of people with good ideas and a real concern for this City. But their voices are drown out by ass-holes like the moron J Dolan who posts nothing but trash. Its a shame that Anthony has allowed this board to become so infested with malcontents rather than becomeing a place for political debate. Instead its become a safe haven for political character assisnations. I know Willie. She's a good person. I know Lou. He's a decent person too. I know Jerry Healy. He's a good man with a decent family who cares about this city too. There is no reason that the people who support these candidates should feel free to crawl in the mud and hurl abuse at people and somehow think that their assaults on their competition will either gain them votes, or keep people from voting for their opponents. I think its time Anthony started a board where people who want to debate issues can register and stand behind their words rather than behind "screen names". If he does...I will re-post this with my name attached. I won't today, because I do not need to become the target of low lifes who call eachother names and crawl in the political feces thrown about by their respective camps. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Issues need to be addressed posted Message 6716 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 16:49:07 Subject: Re: THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I AM NOT VOTING FOR WILLIE FLOOD!!! True that all these others aren't addressing issues but neither is Willie Flood. Why are her supporters not able to put up signs or be visible...what's up with that??? Address issues please!!!! : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another common sense post! posted Message 6717 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 16:56:21 Subject: Re: Let's hear about some issues You're right...they all have their good points and their bad points. Some just have more bad points than good ones. The quality of this board has degenerated so rapidly that it's not even funny any longer. It's become just way too "old school" for me and no one seems to be complaining...that's why I started wanted to discuss issues. So far, not one lackey has posted a real response and I doubt that they will because all it comes down to for them is getting their guy in so they can get a no-show job at our expense. If I'm wrong on it...prove it! But I gotta say that it's our own fault if we let our voices get drowned out by the weasels. We need to start yelling louder if we want to get heard and it's high time that we all started a chorus of dissent with the sorry state of affairs in Jersey City and Hudson County. : I agree with you completely. Its a shame that small-minded loud mouths seem to be accomodated at every level of politics. Especially here in Jersey City. And this post board is another reflection of that reality. : There are a lot of people with good ideas and a real concern for this City. But their voices are drown out by ass-holes like the moron J Dolan who posts nothing but trash. Its a shame that Anthony has allowed this board to become so infested with malcontents rather than becomeing a place for political debate. Instead its become a safe haven for political character assisnations. : I know Willie. She's a good person. I know Lou. He's a decent person too. I know Jerry Healy. He's a good man with a decent family who cares about this city too. : There is no reason that the people who support these candidates should feel free to crawl in the mud and hurl abuse at people and somehow think that their assaults on their competition will either gain them votes, or keep people from voting for their opponents. : I think its time Anthony started a board where people who want to debate issues can register and stand behind their words rather than behind "screen names". If he does...I will re-post this with my name attached. I won't today, because I do not need to become the target of low lifes who call eachother names and crawl in the political feces thrown about by their respective camps. : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6718 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 17:54:02 Subject: Hudson County Democrats for Bush Jose Arango, Hudson County Republican Chair, today introduced Hudson County Democrats for Bush. Hudson is the first New Jersey County to have a Democrats for Bush organization. Around twenty-five people attended the announcement including Joe Gallo, John Caulfield, Dominick Pugliese, and Melba Walsh. Also there were a number of veterans and law enforcement officer. Nader Guirguis, the editor of an New Jersey Arabic language newspaper endorsed George Bush for President at today's event. Mr. Guirgius said that most people in the Middle East thank America for removing the threat of Sadam Hussein. Pictures and video will appear here on Thursday morning. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry Healy Camp posted Message 6719 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 18:07:13 Subject: Re: HEALY POSTS Jerry Healy is not a drunk, what a line of bull$hit. Healy is one of the biggest drunks in the city behind that a$$hole DeGise & that Homo Gaughan.Gerry McCann ,the ex-con, has a picture of Healy naked and pi$sing allover himself.It is amazing that anyone would even think of voting for that gay bastard Jerry Healy. : : ANYWAY OF SEEING FUTURE POSTS WITHOUT THE FOLLOWING WORDS: : : HOMO : : GAY : : A$$ HOLE : : EX-CON : : JERRY IS NOT A DRUNK ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom...You're Right posted Message 6720 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 18:25:34 Subject: Some people will cross any line... You are right Tom. Its a shame that the level of discourse has gotten so low this time around. When Schundler ran, at least issues were discussed and ideas bounced around. This time its just a string of personal attacks. We've been through an endless string of campaigns over the past few years, but this one has reached a new low. When civility disappears, and people's families become targets for opponents to throw disgusting accusations at, its time to recognize that we've hit a new low. Your mom is in my prayers. : : One can only imagine how distasteful it is to read about your 87 year old Mom on this cesspool of a message board. my Mom entered Cusack Center last year after suffering thru both a serious injury and an illness. She entered as a non-medicaid patientas there were and still are open beds at this great facility. In fact they have asked us to distribute their pamphlets to help attract new clients. Any child who is faced with the decision of placing a parent in a nursing home, as my sister and I have, knows how heart wrenching that decision is. To have this used as political fodder to score points in an election I am not even a candidate in is the act of an anonymous coward. This is a one time response as I will not enter this sty again. I have supplied my personal email for anyone wishing any intelligent discourse on this or anything else.BTW, Dan Battista's mom passed awy several decades ago. Where exactly is the line we are not suopposed to cross? Tom : . : : : : : : : : : : : Sorry about the typos and the email is uglytie101@yahoo.com Tom ***************** End Of Article ****************** Judge Me? Fat Chance posted Message 6721 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 18:32:34 Subject: Re: McManzo....the new clowns in town You judge me by the words I use? You've decided I support Healy based solely on the language I use? You probably judge people by the color of their skin too. The true sign of a bigot. For your information...I don't support Healy. But I would sooner see him win, than see McManzo in office. I had hoped to see a debate of ideas. Maybe even some solutions to our city's problems. But I guess that would take some effort and intelligence. I obviously expect too much. : :: Your very terminalogy shows that you are a Healy faithful. Gaughan is a greedy, spiteful and a drunk. Demelier is Gerry McCann's protege, look who he is working for. Then there is Jimmy DICKson, who owes a roof over his head and a job to Gaughan because he married his daughter. Not aligned with either side? I think not. : : You take your lead from a convict. You do his bidding and you deny being in the mud. As for percentage of personal attacks... there are more "Healy is a Drunk" posts by you folks than I have seen "Manzo is a Gay" posts from the Healy people. Since I don't work for either side...maybe that's how I should decide who to vote for. Count up the garbage posts and vote for the one with fewer slanderous remarks against his opponent. Seems reasonable. : : : ::::Check back on the board. 99 & 44/100% of the garbage is by Team *HIC* Healy. Personal attacks from the get go. But if the mud is picked up and thrown back - forget about it. But keep on spinning and lying if that is what you need to do to make yourself feel better. : : : : When you have no platform....no new ideas and no vision...what do you do? Throw mud. You people are pathetic. : : : : : Jerry is definitely the best Flasher in the race. : : : : : Hope I don;t get the opportunity to see him flash. : : : : : : : COUNCILMAN AT LARGE JERRAMIAH T HEALY HAS TAKEN THE LEAD TO THE BAR IN A POLL CONDUCTED INDEPENDENTLY BY A MARYLAND POLLING CO. : : : : : : : HE IS LEADING THE CLOSEST CANDIDATE BY 7%AND IS IN THE NUMBER 1 POSITION. *HIC* ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why Are You Supporting Healy? posted Message 6722 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 19:35:14 Subject: DeGise - You would think that DeGise would come out and explain why he is supporting Healy. But he doesn't. The voters of Hudson County and more specifically Jersey City have to ask themselves why the support for Healy over the other 12 candidates running. Come on Tommy, You can think of something? Or is it being naieve to think that you have a position other than what your a$$-wipe Boss Bob Menendez tells you to say? The voters of HC have had enough of your double dealing. Anybody but Healy! : Jerry Healy is not a drunk, what a line of bull$hit. Healy is one of the biggest drunks in the city behind that a$$hole DeGise & that Homo Gaughan.Gerry McCann ,the ex-con, has a picture of Healy naked and pi$sing allover himself.It is amazing that anyone would even think of voting for that gay bastard Jerry Healy. : : : : ANYWAY OF SEEING FUTURE POSTS WITHOUT THE FOLLOWING WORDS: : : : HOMO : : : GAY : : : A$$ HOLE : : : EX-CON : : : JERRY IS NOT A DRUNK ***************** End Of Article ****************** D-E-G-I-S-E!!!!!!!! posted Message 6723 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 19:42:42 Subject: The Reason is spelled --- Its allowed to continue because the voters of HC elected TOm DeGise the self-confessed lackey of Bob Menendeez, and protege of Bobby Janiszewski, admitted felon. Chris Christy - don't leave HC yet, there is alot more work to do! : Banana republics are better if you are buying khakis. So obviously, I am not the only one feeling this way then. Why has it been allowed to continue? : : You got it right. Only thing I would take issue with is calling JC a Banna Republic. I would classify Bannana Republics ahead of JC when it comes to the quality of the govenment / elected officials. Hey Bobby M.! Do you get it! Fidel is doing a better job than you! : : : : : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : : : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : : : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : : : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : : : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : : : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tommy? posted Message 6724 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 19:50:43 Subject: How Does It Feel -- Hey Tommy, I get your a little hurt by this last post. Well, now maybe you can appreicate how you have hurt innocent people by the corrupt policies of your administration. The post was not directed at your mother, it was directed at you, right between your eyes. When are you going to be a MAN and not a Mendendez tool? Having trouble sleeping at night, Tommy? : One can only imagine how distasteful it is to read about your 87 year old Mom on this cesspool of a message board. my Mom entered Cusack Center last year after suffering thru both a serious injury and an illness. She entered as a non-medicaid patientas there were and still are open beds at this great facility. In fact they have asked us to distribute their pamphlets to help attract new clients. Any child who is faced with the decision of placing a parent in a nursing home, as my sister and I have, knows how heart wrenching that decision is. To have this used as political fodder to score points in an election I am not even a candidate in is the act of an anonymous coward. This is a one time response as I will not enter this sty again. I have supplied my personal email for anyone wishing any intelligent discourse on this or anything else.BTW, Dan Battista's mom passed awy several decades ago. Where exactly is the line we are not suopposed to cross? Tom : : I think I'll send this post to the Star Ledger, JJ and Reporter. : : : : : IT SEEMS THE PERKS OF BEING A WELL-CONNECTED POLITICAL HACK IN HUDSON COUNTY NEVER END. : : : NOW ITS DO-NOTHING BATISTA'S MOTHER WHO JUMPED TO THE HEAD OF THE LINE TO GET INTO ST. JOSEPH'S HOME, JOINING TOMMY DEGISE'S MOTHER. : : : IS THERE A QUID PRO QUO GOING ON HERE? : : : ARE TAXPAYERS MONEY BEING USED TO SUBSIDIZE THE LIFE-STYLES OF THOSE IN POWER? : : : PETER HARVEY, ITS TIME YOU VISITED HUDSON COUNTY. : : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jose Are You A Democrat in Sheep's Clothes? posted Message 6725 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 19:56:58 Subject: Re: Hudson County Democrats for Bush Jose, Why don't YOU come out of the closet and admit you are a Democrat. I mean, come on, Joe DOria? Did that endorsement get Junior Bush's approval? Will Joe and Dubyah stand on the stage together? : Jose Arango, Hudson County Republican Chair, today introduced Hudson County Democrats for Bush. : Hudson is the first New Jersey County to have a Democrats for Bush organization. : Around twenty-five people attended the announcement including Joe Gallo, John Caulfield, Dominick Pugliese, and Melba Walsh. Also there were a number of veterans and law enforcement officer. : Nader Guirguis, the editor of an New Jersey Arabic language newspaper endorsed George Bush for President at today's event. Mr. Guirgius said that most people in the Middle East thank America for removing the threat of Sadam Hussein. : Pictures and video will appear here on Thursday morning. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Be serious, will ya posted Message 6726 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 19:59:11 Subject: Re: The Reason is spelled --- You can't pin the blame on anyone except for the electorate for electing the same cronies over and over again. This mess goes back farther than Tom DeGise. It's been this bad for at least a century. : Its allowed to continue because the voters of HC elected TOm DeGise the self-confessed lackey of Bob Menendeez, and protege of Bobby Janiszewski, admitted felon. : Chris Christy - don't leave HC yet, there is alot more work to do! : : Banana republics are better if you are buying khakis. So obviously, I am not the only one feeling this way then. Why has it been allowed to continue? : : : You got it right. Only thing I would take issue with is calling JC a Banna Republic. I would classify Bannana Republics ahead of JC when it comes to the quality of the govenment / elected officials. Hey Bobby M.! Do you get it! Fidel is doing a better job than you! : : : : : : : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : : : : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : : : : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : : : : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : : : : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : : : : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** You have issues posted Message 6727 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 20:01:01 Subject: Re: HEALY POSTS I can only hope that Healy has issues and you or he will start posting them on this board instead of this nonsense. : Jerry Healy is not a drunk, what a line of bull$hit. Healy is one of the biggest drunks in the city behind that a$$hole DeGise & that Homo Gaughan.Gerry McCann ,the ex-con, has a picture of Healy naked and pi$sing allover himself.It is amazing that anyone would even think of voting for that gay bastard Jerry Healy. : : : : ANYWAY OF SEEING FUTURE POSTS WITHOUT THE FOLLOWING WORDS: : : : HOMO : : : GAY : : : A$$ HOLE : : : EX-CON : : : JERRY IS NOT A DRUNK ***************** End Of Article ****************** Discuss the issues! posted Message 6728 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 20:02:51 Subject: Re: DeGise - Why should we voters vote for any of them. Pray tell why you think that we should vote for Healy. Your nonsense only leads me and others to believe that there is no concrete reason to vote for him or any of the other candidates. : You would think that DeGise would come out and explain why he is supporting Healy. But he doesn't. The voters of Hudson County and more specifically Jersey City have to ask themselves why the support for Healy over the other 12 candidates running. : Come on Tommy, You can think of something? Or is it being naieve to think that you have a position other than what your a$$-wipe Boss Bob Menendez tells you to say? : The voters of HC have had enough of your double dealing. Anybody but Healy! : : Jerry Healy is not a drunk, what a line of bull$hit. Healy is one of the biggest drunks in the city behind that a$$hole DeGise & that Homo Gaughan.Gerry McCann ,the ex-con, has a picture of Healy naked and pi$sing allover himself.It is amazing that anyone would even think of voting for that gay bastard Jerry Healy. : : : : : : ANYWAY OF SEEING FUTURE POSTS WITHOUT THE FOLLOWING WORDS: : : : : HOMO : : : : GAY : : : : A$$ HOLE : : : : EX-CON : : : : JERRY IS NOT A DRUNK ***************** End Of Article ****************** THROW OUT DEGISE AND MENENDEZ posted Message 6729 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 20:10:31 Subject: wHERE DO YOU START? YOU ARE CORRECT, hc/jc IS THE LAUGHING STOCK OF NEW JERSEY. HOW DO YOU START? WELL IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE REPUBLICANS HAD AN ORGANIZATION, NOT SOMEONE SLEEPING WITH MENENDEZ AND DEGISE. SECONDLY. MENENDEZ WILL TAKE A BIG HIT IF HEALY ISN'T ELECTED MAYOR, SO LETS START HERE, DON'T VOTE FOR HEALY BECAUSE HE'S A DRUNK, DON'T VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE HE MEANS THE STATUS QUO WILL CONTINUE. ONE STEP AT A TIME. : : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Some people don't believe in lines posted Message 6730 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 20:13:16 Subject: Re: Here I Am This attack on DeGise's mother shows just how low down the political hacks in this town are. Whoever posted about his mother should have the courage to reveal their name. This is as contemptible as contemptible can get. This place is a mess because the inmates are allowed to run the assylum and have been running it for years. : : One can only imagine how distasteful it is to read about your 87 year old Mom on this cesspool of a message board. my Mom entered Cusack Center last year after suffering thru both a serious injury and an illness. She entered as a non-medicaid patientas there were and still are open beds at this great facility. In fact they have asked us to distribute their pamphlets to help attract new clients. Any child who is faced with the decision of placing a parent in a nursing home, as my sister and I have, knows how heart wrenching that decision is. To have this used as political fodder to score points in an election I am not even a candidate in is the act of an anonymous coward. This is a one time response as I will not enter this sty again. I have supplied my personal email for anyone wishing any intelligent discourse on this or anything else.BTW, Dan Battista's mom passed awy several decades ago. Where exactly is the line we are not suopposed to cross? Tom : . : : : : : : : : : : : Sorry about the typos and the email is uglytie101@yahoo.com Tom ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don't show your foolishness posted Message 6731 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 20:17:22 Subject: Re: wHERE DO YOU START? Jersey City and Hudson County is a laughing stock because of political hacks like yourself. The Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats here. This problem didn't start with Menendez and won't stop if he were to lose power. It is unfortunately endemic and has been a stain on America for years. The problem will start if people like yourself stop posting what amounts to dung and start discussing issues. In case you haven't noticed, this city and county are in deep trouble. What has your guy got that's going to fix things...or is he just trying to find another way to line his (and your) pockets? : YOU ARE CORRECT, hc/jc IS THE LAUGHING STOCK OF NEW JERSEY. : HOW DO YOU START? WELL IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE REPUBLICANS HAD AN ORGANIZATION, NOT SOMEONE SLEEPING WITH MENENDEZ AND DEGISE. : SECONDLY. MENENDEZ WILL TAKE A BIG HIT IF HEALY ISN'T ELECTED MAYOR, SO LETS START HERE, DON'T VOTE FOR HEALY BECAUSE HE'S A DRUNK, DON'T VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE HE MEANS THE STATUS QUO WILL CONTINUE. : ONE STEP AT A TIME. : : : : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : : : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : : : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : : : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : : : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : : : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ebonics posted Message 6732 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 21:36:48 Subject: What was actually said is very different How low kin dese idiots go? Dey always rap about bull$hit dat dosen't matter. Ah be baaad... Even suc ka's on Flood's behalf dont go drowin' dirt around. Dat says alot. Man! Dey duzn't gots'ta discredit some suc ka else t'make demselves look baaaad. Dat's whut gots'ta put dem upside de top. Jes hang loose, brud. We gots'ta make it happen. 'S coo', bro. We may not be able t'put signs down o' be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! Right on! : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The only thing I understood, I think, was posted Message 6733 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 21:43:54 Subject: Re: What was actually said is very different ::OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! Right on! : How low kin dese idiots go? Dey always rap about bull$hit dat dosen't matter. Ah be baaad... Even suc ka's on Flood's behalf dont go drowin' dirt around. Dat says alot. Man! Dey duzn't gots'ta discredit some suc ka else t'make demselves look baaaad. Dat's whut gots'ta put dem upside de top. Jes hang loose, brud. We gots'ta make it happen. 'S coo', bro. We may not be able t'put signs down o' be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! Right on! : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Are You? posted Message 6734 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 22:20:49 Subject: I;am Not a Political Hack Oh really! I'am just a citizen who reads the newspapers and observers first-hand what's going on. Is it the average citizen who speaks out against the corruption going on in HC the problem or is it the elected officals and corrupt buracrats? Sorry, the entire country is not run by corrupt officials. When you talk about corrupt places, HC takes the cake, hands down. You admit the city and county are in troubl. Whose fault is that? Average citizens or the elected officials? And if you didn't know, the founders of this great country crafted a document called the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Freedom of Speech is one of those rights, and I plan on exercising that right until the corrupt officials in HC are all in jail, (make room Bobby J ) your successors will be following soon. And whose payroll are you on? : Jersey City and Hudson County is a laughing stock because of political hacks like yourself. The Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats here. : This problem didn't start with Menendez and won't stop if he were to lose power. It is unfortunately endemic and has been a stain on America for years. The problem will start if people like yourself stop posting what amounts to dung and start discussing issues. : In case you haven't noticed, this city and county are in deep trouble. What has your guy got that's going to fix things...or is he just trying to find another way to line his (and your) pockets? : : YOU ARE CORRECT, hc/jc IS THE LAUGHING STOCK OF NEW JERSEY. : : HOW DO YOU START? WELL IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE REPUBLICANS HAD AN ORGANIZATION, NOT SOMEONE SLEEPING WITH MENENDEZ AND DEGISE. : : SECONDLY. MENENDEZ WILL TAKE A BIG HIT IF HEALY ISN'T ELECTED MAYOR, SO LETS START HERE, DON'T VOTE FOR HEALY BECAUSE HE'S A DRUNK, DON'T VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE HE MEANS THE STATUS QUO WILL CONTINUE. : : ONE STEP AT A TIME. : : : : : : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : : : : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : : : : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : : : : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : : : : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : : : : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Agree posted Message 6735 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 22:30:04 Subject: The Electorate Decides THe electroate decides, I agree with you on this. That's why this up coming Mayoral election in JC is so important. It's an opportunity to show the political bosses that their hand-picked candidate, Jerry Healy is not going to get their vote. Anybody But Healy!!!! ABH ABH ABH ABH : You can't pin the blame on anyone except for the electorate for electing the same cronies over and over again. This mess goes back farther than Tom DeGise. It's been this bad for at least a century. : : Its allowed to continue because the voters of HC elected TOm DeGise the self-confessed lackey of Bob Menendeez, and protege of Bobby Janiszewski, admitted felon. : : Chris Christy - don't leave HC yet, there is alot more work to do! : : : Banana republics are better if you are buying khakis. So obviously, I am not the only one feeling this way then. Why has it been allowed to continue? : : : : You got it right. Only thing I would take issue with is calling JC a Banna Republic. I would classify Bannana Republics ahead of JC when it comes to the quality of the govenment / elected officials. Hey Bobby M.! Do you get it! Fidel is doing a better job than you! : : : : : : : : : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : : : : : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : : : : : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : : : : : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : : : : : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : : : : : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Agree posted Message 6736 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 22:34:18 Subject: The Electorate Decides THe electroate decides, I agree with you on this. That's why this up coming Mayoral election in JC is so important. It's an opportunity to show the political bosses that their hand-picked candidate, Jerry Healy is not going to get their vote. Anybody But Healy!!!! ABH ABH ABH ABH : You can't pin the blame on anyone except for the electorate for electing the same cronies over and over again. This mess goes back farther than Tom DeGise. It's been this bad for at least a century. : : Its allowed to continue because the voters of HC elected TOm DeGise the self-confessed lackey of Bob Menendeez, and protege of Bobby Janiszewski, admitted felon. : : Chris Christy - don't leave HC yet, there is alot more work to do! : : : Banana republics are better if you are buying khakis. So obviously, I am not the only one feeling this way then. Why has it been allowed to continue? : : : : You got it right. Only thing I would take issue with is calling JC a Banna Republic. I would classify Bannana Republics ahead of JC when it comes to the quality of the govenment / elected officials. Hey Bobby M.! Do you get it! Fidel is doing a better job than you! : : : : : : : : : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : : : : : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : : : : : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : : : : : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : : : : : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : : : : : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** When Opportunity knocks posted Message 6737 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 22:46:49 Subject: He's neither R or D Jose is neither Republican or Democrat, he's an opportunists ***************** End Of Article ****************** It's like the UTN all over again- same tune different words. posted Message 6738 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2004 at 23:13:53 Subject: Re: Some people will cross any line... Posted by Robin on March 15, 2003 at 19:26:05: Letter to the Editor, March 12, 2003 Article VI of the American Society Of Newspaper Editors states: “…Journalism should respect the rights of people involved in the news, observe the common standards of decency and stand accountable to the public for fairness and accuracy of their news report.” I am outraged by the callousness of the article written by Mr. Steven Glazer that ran on the front page of the Urban Times News, February 28- March 6, 2003 Edition. In his article critiquing Council President L. Harvey Smith, titled “Uncle Harvey Does it Again,” Mr. Glazer accused Mr. Smith of using the excuse of deaths in his family in South Carolina to escape the responsibilities to Jersey City. Mr. Glazer wrote: ” Uncle Harvey could not be reached for comment by this newspaper. In fact Uncle Harvey can never be reached for comment by this newspaper. Long time political activists who have known him well and for a long time said, “Harvey has killed half the state of South Carolina by now. There are entire ghost towns there because of Harvey. Every time there is a problem or situation that he wants to avoid, there suddenly develops a serious illness or death of some family member in South Carolina. If it were true that somebody had really died every time Harvey ducked out of a confrontation of some sort saying it was due to a death of a family member in South Carolina, the entire state would be practically empty.” I cannot imagine the pain of a parent who witnesses the death of their child. I certainly cannot imagine the emotions in the Smith household, when upon returning from their sons’ funeral in South Carolina they were exposed to such disheartening criticism and mockery of the premature death of their child. I hold accountable the editors and owners of the Urban Times News who review and endorse the articles before the paper goes to print. I have heard of no action taken by them. Therefore, one must assume the article did not offend them. Similarly, anyone who runs a column or publishes a story in the Urban Times News must be held accountable for not speaking out against Mr. Glazer’s libelous journalism. In addition, the advertisers that continue to finance the newspaper must be held accountable too. Lastly, it sickens me that our local leaders fail to show the courage to publicly chastise this newspaper. In a civilized society the actions of Mr. Glazer and the Urban Times News are unacceptable. I urge all of the aforementioned individuals and groups identified with the Urban Times News to condemn writers like Mr. Glazer who violate the Principles of Journalism and more so the standards of human decency. To the public: I urge you to speak out against the wrongs in this world because left unattended you can be the next victim. Not only should you speak out, but also you can take action by withdrawing your support for and by boycotting all advertisers and individuals who associate their names with the Urban Times News. Mr. Smith, we mourn with you as we all do over the passing of a family member. We apologize as a community for the actions of those who embarrass the majority of us all with their consciousless actions, Robin Pinkowitz Jersey City NJ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let The Games Begin posted Message 6739 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 00:54:36 Subject: Who Is In? Let's see who has the onions to stay in the race. Predictions: In Mayor Smith Flood Manzo Lipski Out Healy, aka DeGise Bonocoure Place your bets! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jose is for Sale! posted Message 6740 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 01:00:57 Subject: I Can't Believe It! What a blow for the Republicans. I thought Jose was on the level. I wonder if the Republicans pay Jose to represent them in HC, or if he just goes with the highest bidder. Jose, how about Ralph Nader? Ralph's got alot of cash. Think about it. Better than Bush, everybody from HC, even Healy supporters would agree with that! : Jose is neither Republican or Democrat, he's an opportunists ***************** End Of Article ****************** jimmy dickson posted Message 6741 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 03:33:17 Subject: Re: Is Jimmy DICKson Hiding ????? : : : : : : : : : : I AM NOT SCARED I LIVE @972 SUMMIT AVE MY CELL IS 2013203729 IAM HERE FOR GOOD GOV'T IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ME ON HERE I AM : :weno still waiting 4 YOU to ID yourself BE A MAN AND STEP UP 2 THE PLATE ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMY DICKSON posted Message 6742 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 03:50:38 Subject: weno WHO still waiting 4 U 2 ID yourself come out come out where ever U are TIME 2 STEP UP 2 THE PLATE as 4 chances NO WAY ID your self 1"st BE A MAN I KNOW MY MOTHER RAISED ONE =MAN HOW BOUT you????|||||}||||}}|||}}|||| ***************** End Of Article ****************** RED FLYER posted Message 6743 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 05:30:53 Subject: Re: J Dolan is Jimmy D : seen jimmy d last night asked him if he j dolan say's NO WAY say's if he is going to post somthing he"ll use his own name gotta belive this guy he seem's like a stand up guy very dedicated to the cause HE'S GOT MY RESPECT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** IM FOR HEALTH CARE posted Message 6744 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 05:48:56 Subject: Re: I Hope Your Right MCann you hit yet another low I WONDER HOW YOU WOULD FEEL IF HAD TO PUT YOUR MOTHER THERE OH WE FORGOT!!!! YOU ONLY FEEL FOR YOURSELF JUST ASK YOUR CHILDREN ***************** End Of Article ****************** VOTER posted Message 6745 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 06:13:07 Subject: MANZO?? : ALREADY PEOPLE ARE SAYING LOU WHO?????? HE'S DONE STICK AFORK IN HIM UNLESS DAN WANT'S TO STICK HIM HE SEEM'S TO KNOW ALL THE RIGHT SPOTS!!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ABCDEFG..... posted Message 6746 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 06:40:39 Subject: Re: weno WHO : still waiting 4 U 2 ID yourself come out come out where ever U are TIME 2 STEP UP 2 THE PLATE as 4 chances NO WAY ID your self 1"st BE A MAN I KNOW MY MOTHER RAISED ONE CAUSE SHE TELLS ME SHE IS VERY PROUD OF MY BROTHER????|||||}||||}}|||}}|||| ***************** End Of Article ****************** So tell me posted Message 6747 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 07:09:29 Subject: Re: The Electorate Decides Why should I vote for anyone else but Healy? Who do you recommend and why should I vote for the person? So far, no one has answered my posts with anything resembling real reasons to vote for anyone. : THe electroate decides, I agree with you on this. : That's why this up coming Mayoral election in JC is so important. : It's an opportunity to show the political bosses that their hand-picked candidate, Jerry Healy is not going to get their vote. : Anybody But Healy!!!! ABH ABH ABH ABH : : : You can't pin the blame on anyone except for the electorate for electing the same cronies over and over again. This mess goes back farther than Tom DeGise. It's been this bad for at least a century. : : : Its allowed to continue because the voters of HC elected TOm DeGise the self-confessed lackey of Bob Menendeez, and protege of Bobby Janiszewski, admitted felon. : : : Chris Christy - don't leave HC yet, there is alot more work to do! : : : : Banana republics are better if you are buying khakis. So obviously, I am not the only one feeling this way then. Why has it been allowed to continue? : : : : : You got it right. Only thing I would take issue with is calling JC a Banna Republic. I would classify Bannana Republics ahead of JC when it comes to the quality of the govenment / elected officials. Hey Bobby M.! Do you get it! Fidel is doing a better job than you! : : : : : : : : : : : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : : : : : : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : : : : : : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : : : : : : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : : : : : : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : : : : : : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not in anyone's camp posted Message 6748 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 07:16:04 Subject: Re: I;am Not a Political Hack I'm an undecided voter who wants to hear about issues that are affecting not only me but everyone who lives here. Personally, I don't care if Healy is a drunk or anyone is anything else...I want to know where they stand on the real issues. I called you a hack because you wrote that Healy is a drunk. Again...who really cares...it's his liver, not yours and not mine. If he wants cirrhosis so be it. As for the rest of the country not being corrupt, you're correct but Hudson County and Jersey City is...it's our own fault for electing the same cast of characters time after time. If they mess up, we should not vote for them again. We should, in fact, toss them out of office on their behinds. If the officials are corrupt then we are at fault for giving them new terms. They're always going to do what's best for them and God help the rest of us. We've got to take back this city and county and it starts with you and me. : Oh really! I'am just a citizen who reads the newspapers and observers first-hand what's going on. Is it the average citizen who speaks out against the corruption going on in HC the problem or is it the elected officals and corrupt buracrats? : Sorry, the entire country is not run by corrupt officials. When you talk about corrupt places, HC takes the cake, hands down. : You admit the city and county are in troubl. Whose fault is that? Average citizens or the elected officials? : And if you didn't know, the founders of this great country crafted a document called the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Freedom of Speech is one of those rights, and I plan on exercising that right until the corrupt officials in HC are all in jail, (make room Bobby J ) your successors will be following soon. : And whose payroll are you on? : : : Jersey City and Hudson County is a laughing stock because of political hacks like yourself. The Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats here. : : This problem didn't start with Menendez and won't stop if he were to lose power. It is unfortunately endemic and has been a stain on America for years. The problem will start if people like yourself stop posting what amounts to dung and start discussing issues. : : In case you haven't noticed, this city and county are in deep trouble. What has your guy got that's going to fix things...or is he just trying to find another way to line his (and your) pockets? : : : YOU ARE CORRECT, hc/jc IS THE LAUGHING STOCK OF NEW JERSEY. : : : HOW DO YOU START? WELL IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE REPUBLICANS HAD AN ORGANIZATION, NOT SOMEONE SLEEPING WITH MENENDEZ AND DEGISE. : : : SECONDLY. MENENDEZ WILL TAKE A BIG HIT IF HEALY ISN'T ELECTED MAYOR, SO LETS START HERE, DON'T VOTE FOR HEALY BECAUSE HE'S A DRUNK, DON'T VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE HE MEANS THE STATUS QUO WILL CONTINUE. : : : ONE STEP AT A TIME. : : : : : : : : This board used to be good but lately it's fallen to a state of lackluster posts by hacks of lackluster politicians. So Healy's a drunk, Manzo's gay, Smith's a sellout, Floods a nice airhead and Buonocore lives in Sussex County...big deal!!! What is a big deal is that not one of you so-called campaign workers are talking about any issues. : : : : : Where is the serious discussion of the issues that face the residents of Jersey City. You go to these fools' website and there is nothing there of any real substance. : : : : : Why do the people of Jersey City keep putting up with this? Now that we know who all the candidates are, when is there going to be a public debate so all of us who care about issues and not mudslinging gossip can learn something that may sway our undecided votes to a candidate? : : : : : Now you got the republicans endorsing the democrats...what's next? Why is Jersey City such a one-trick pony town? Guys...this pony is tired and the trick is no longer amusing. If you can't find a way to discuss something that is of real concern to people, quit posting because you're wasting time and driving potential voters away from all your candidates. : : : : : Take a dare...post something that will be of some use to the rest of us. If you have to curry favor with a candidate by blasting away at another candidate instead of talking about serious issues you aren't contributing anything of any value to Jersey City. : : : : : If this is the best that we've got, then it's a small wonder Jersey City is like a banana republic! ***************** End Of Article ****************** My Type of Guy posted Message 6749 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 07:20:13 Subject: Buonocore is Menendez type of guy He will do anything for power & Money.Just like Porky Pig.Menendez has a high place for Buonocore in his HCDO Machine. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who is next posted Message 6750 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 07:41:39 Subject: What HCDO leader will be next to get indicted Hudson County & Jersey City should be real proud of there Politicians.Now they will tell you to vote for Kerry.These guys put Power &Money before the welfare of our country.Shame on all of you So Called Leaders.America Firstover party labels except for the brain dead in HC & JC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6751 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 08:06:10 Subject: Online Video: Hudson County Democrats For Bush Hudson County GOP Chair Jose Arango announces the formation of Hudson County Democrats for Bush. This is the first county Democrats for Bush organization in New Jersey. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sorry Gang posted Message 6752 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 08:08:45 Subject: HCDO leadership needs a course in honesty Menendez has really got a tight hold on all of them.How can these guys face their voters with a straight face.They say that Kerry would be good for America.Hudson County gang should be called the Flip Flop gang.Bush will get the honest vote.They are the people who Work hard and want their children to be safe and get a good education. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Time to get even posted Message 6753 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 08:24:06 Subject: Menendez ,wants Himself, Kerry And Healy to win Need i say more.Time to vote and get even with Porky pig and Gang.Lets try Bush and keep Americs Safe.Menendez can run Xanadu.Healy can become a bartender. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why posted Message 6754 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 08:40:58 Subject: Why is Tom Gaynor missing from the picture? I know he would be for Bush.We lost 3,000 good people on 9-11.Never again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You idiot posted Message 6755 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 09:12:01 Subject: Re: Why is Tom Gaynor missing from the picture? :: You aint been missing u are posting here under a bunch of names or cant you remember? : I know he would be for Bush.We lost 3,000 good people on 9-11.Never again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** upearly posted Message 6756 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 09:28:06 Subject: Re: weno WHO : still waiting 4 U 2 ID yourself come out come out where ever U are TIME 2 STEP UP 2 THE PLATE as 4 chances NO WAY ID your self 1"st BE A MAN I KNOW MY MOTHER RAISED ONE =MAN HOW BOUT you????|||||}||||}}|||}}|||| :::::Passed out at 4am JD? Will you be late for work? Let's see. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Never Viote for him posted Message 6757 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 09:37:15 Subject: Glenn Cunningham would never vote for Menendez He was the one who called for a investigation of Xanadu & Menendez connection. Remember Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Would Have Taken Menendez Down posted Message 6758 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 10:39:44 Subject: Re: Glenn Cunningham - A Little More Time and... If Glenn was still with us he would be enjoying the up coming victory over the corrupt Menendex-controlled County government, : He was the one who called for a investigation of Xanadu & Menendez connection. Remember Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET MENENDEZ !!! posted Message 6759 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 10:46:16 Subject: One Step At a Time Let's taken down the Menendez shill Healy first. That will be the biggest and most direct defeated of this tyrant. Manzo, Smith, Flood, anyone will do fine. They all hate Menendez and will rid City Hall and the Freeholder Board of the Menendez stooges. After that we can attack this low-life directly in a head-to-head elelction. : Need i say more.Time to vote and get even with Porky pig and Gang.Lets try Bush and keep Americs Safe.Menendez can run Xanadu.Healy can become a bartender. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Overhaul posted Message 6760 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 10:52:26 Subject: Re: HCDO leadership needs a--- Your getting a little ahead of yourself. THe corrupt County crew don't care who the President is, they just care about controlling the county coffers and giving away taxpayer money to their favorite consultants. What's needed first is to defeat the DdeGise cabal, including the Boss Bob M and Bernie K. : Menendez has really got a tight hold on all of them.How can these guys face their voters with a straight face.They say that Kerry would be good for America.Hudson County gang should be called the Flip Flop gang.Bush will get the honest vote.They are the people who Work hard and want their children to be safe and get a good education. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Karen Lewis posted Message 6761 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 10:53:14 Subject: Re: Online Video: Hudson County Democrats For Bush God Bless you in sharing your thoughts and beliefs. This is a great looking bunch. Thank you - I saw the link on Free Republic. Karen Lewis ***************** End Of Article ****************** Republicans for KERRY posted Message 6762 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 10:53:55 Subject: They Look Like A Special Ed Class : Hudson County GOP Chair Jose Arango announces the formation of Hudson County Democrats for Bush. : This is the first county Democrats for Bush organization in New Jersey. : To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise Anton posted Message 6763 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 10:56:29 Subject: Re: What HCDO leader will be next to get indicted DeGise and ANton (the button man) are next to go. DeGise will fold faster than Bobby J. Hey Tom! What's that envelope sticking out of your golf bag? : Hudson County & Jersey City should be real proud of there Politicians.Now they will tell you to vote for Kerry.These guys put Power &Money before the welfare of our country.Shame on all of you So Called Leaders.America Firstover party labels except for the brain dead in HC & JC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say what u want posted Message 6764 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 11:05:34 Subject: FLOOD!!! We do address issues. And the reason we don't have signs is because everyone else is playing the pay to play game and they threaten people. That's it. Signs don't vote though! : True that all these others aren't addressing issues but neither is Willie Flood. Why are her supporters not able to put up signs or be visible...what's up with that??? : Address issues please!!!! : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Phil Flood,Jr posted Message 6765 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 11:09:06 Subject: Re: Let's hear about some issues Finally the first sensible posts I have seen in a while. Thanks guys. : I agree with you completely. Its a shame that small-minded loud mouths seem to be accomodated at every level of politics. Especially here in Jersey City. And this post board is another reflection of that reality. : There are a lot of people with good ideas and a real concern for this City. But their voices are drown out by ass-holes like the moron J Dolan who posts nothing but trash. Its a shame that Anthony has allowed this board to become so infested with malcontents rather than becomeing a place for political debate. Instead its become a safe haven for political character assisnations. : I know Willie. She's a good person. I know Lou. He's a decent person too. I know Jerry Healy. He's a good man with a decent family who cares about this city too. : There is no reason that the people who support these candidates should feel free to crawl in the mud and hurl abuse at people and somehow think that their assaults on their competition will either gain them votes, or keep people from voting for their opponents. : I think its time Anthony started a board where people who want to debate issues can register and stand behind their words rather than behind "screen names". If he does...I will re-post this with my name attached. I won't today, because I do not need to become the target of low lifes who call eachother names and crawl in the political feces thrown about by their respective camps. : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Can You Be That Stupid or Cheap? posted Message 6766 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 11:18:59 Subject: Ron (THE CON) Bonocoure - Ron Boncoure as reported in the JJ today said he lived in a basement apartment, but get this: 1. did not sign a lease 2...did not pay rent 3. did not have gas/electric bills in his name 4. did not have driver license or car insurance showing the address 5. did not cook or wash clothes there(He went 'home' to Sussex county to take care of these needs) 6. did not have his police records show him living there 7. tenant there said she never say ROn there For someone who wants to be Mayor of the second largest city in the state,you would think the guy would have enought smarts to touch all the bases and at least on paper make it look like he lived there. Ron, on that alone you don't deserve to even be on the ballot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6767 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 11:29:03 Subject: Re: Glenn Cunningham - A Little More Time and... Glenn would have lost his mayoral seat this time around. He was lucky to beat DeGise. The only reason he became mayor is because of Menendez , the HCDO and Looney Lou. The Reform Dems are idiots and will finish dead last. They can't even beat Lipski. Healy will prevail now and in May. : If Glenn was still with us he would be enjoying the up coming victory over the corrupt Menendex-controlled County government, : : He was the one who called for a investigation of Xanadu & Menendez connection. Remember Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6768 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 11:30:51 Subject: Re: FLOOD!!! There is no way William Flood can win. He will finish dead last : We do address issues. And the reason we don't have signs is because everyone else is playing the pay to play game and they threaten people. That's it. Signs don't vote though! : : True that all these others aren't addressing issues but neither is Willie Flood. Why are her supporters not able to put up signs or be visible...what's up with that??? : : Address issues please!!!! : : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Remember posted Message 6769 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 11:36:22 Subject: Remember all the fundraisers Buonocore had When he was public works director under Cucci. Where did all that money Go. I hear he owns four houses.Interesting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6770 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 11:46:52 Subject: That's what you think about seniors and veterans? That's what you think about seniors and veterans? : : Hudson County GOP Chair Jose Arango announces the formation of Hudson County Democrats for Bush. : : This is the first county Democrats for Bush organization in New Jersey. : : To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Still waitin' posted Message 6771 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 11:54:09 Subject: Re: Let's hear about some issues Phil, please be the first to tell us what your mother's goals for Jersey City are and how she plans on implementing them. So far, I've asked several times and no one...not one of these so called political geniuses are willing to answer me. Why should I, as an undecided voter, vote for Willie Flood? I'm really trying to start a decent string of posts with all my questions however, as you see, no one will answer me so please be the first. : Finally the first sensible posts I have seen in a while. Thanks guys. : : : I agree with you completely. Its a shame that small-minded loud mouths seem to be accomodated at every level of politics. Especially here in Jersey City. And this post board is another reflection of that reality. : : There are a lot of people with good ideas and a real concern for this City. But their voices are drown out by ass-holes like the moron J Dolan who posts nothing but trash. Its a shame that Anthony has allowed this board to become so infested with malcontents rather than becomeing a place for political debate. Instead its become a safe haven for political character assisnations. : : I know Willie. She's a good person. I know Lou. He's a decent person too. I know Jerry Healy. He's a good man with a decent family who cares about this city too. : : There is no reason that the people who support these candidates should feel free to crawl in the mud and hurl abuse at people and somehow think that their assaults on their competition will either gain them votes, or keep people from voting for their opponents. : : I think its time Anthony started a board where people who want to debate issues can register and stand behind their words rather than behind "screen names". If he does...I will re-post this with my name attached. I won't today, because I do not need to become the target of low lifes who call eachother names and crawl in the political feces thrown about by their respective camps. : : * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * : : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Agreed posted Message 6772 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 11:54:38 Subject: Re: Glenn Cunningham - A Little More Time and... It is scarey to agree with J Dolan on something...but on this one ...he's right. Glenn would have lost the next time around. We'll also see Manzo out of the Assembly when he runs for re-election...he only got in on Cunningham's coat tails and so far he has failed to distinguish himself as a leader. : Glenn would have lost his mayoral seat this time around. He was lucky to beat DeGise. The only reason he became mayor is because of Menendez , the HCDO and Looney Lou. The Reform Dems are idiots and will finish dead last. They can't even beat Lipski. Healy will prevail now and in May. : : If Glenn was still with us he would be enjoying the up coming victory over the corrupt Menendex-controlled County government, : : : He was the one who called for a investigation of Xanadu & Menendez connection. Remember Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So what issues are you addressing? posted Message 6773 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 11:58:32 Subject: Re: FLOOD!!! Still no one has answered my queries. What issues is Ms. Flood addressing and how does she plan on implementing them? Hey, if you guys want to be bullied into not putting up your signs, that's upon you. I will agree that signs don't vote, people do...I will tell you one thing though. The candidate that has littered up what seems like every pole in the city will need to be awfully persuasive if he plans on getting my vote. So far, he's my least favourite because of the garbage that has been glued to the poles. Note...if they would have taped them up so they could be easily removed, I wouldn't be as upset as I am at his campaign. : We do address issues. And the reason we don't have signs is because everyone else is playing the pay to play game and they threaten people. That's it. Signs don't vote though! : : True that all these others aren't addressing issues but neither is Willie Flood. Why are her supporters not able to put up signs or be visible...what's up with that??? : : Address issues please!!!! : : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dude...gotta tell you a secret posted Message 6774 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 12:00:02 Subject: Re: FLOOD!!! The more nonsense that you post, the less likely I am to favour your candidate. If he loses the election...it just might be your fault. : There is no way William Flood can win. He will finish dead last : : : We do address issues. And the reason we don't have signs is because everyone else is playing the pay to play game and they threaten people. That's it. Signs don't vote though! : : : : True that all these others aren't addressing issues but neither is Willie Flood. Why are her supporters not able to put up signs or be visible...what's up with that??? : : : Address issues please!!!! : : : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Distinctly Speaking posted Message 6775 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 12:14:15 Subject: Ebonics is a RACIST A$$HOLE!!!!!! You sir are a BIGGOT!! Go back to Mayberry and shuck some corn. : How low kin dese idiots go? Dey always rap about bull$hit dat dosen't matter. Ah be baaad... Even suc ka's on Flood's behalf dont go drowin' dirt around. Dat says alot. Man! Dey duzn't gots'ta discredit some suc ka else t'make demselves look baaaad. Dat's whut gots'ta put dem upside de top. Jes hang loose, brud. We gots'ta make it happen. 'S coo', bro. We may not be able t'put signs down o' be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! Right on! : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dolan - - You're Not doing Healy any Good posted Message 6776 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 12:18:58 Subject: Re: FLOOD!!! NOTE TO DOLAN: THE MORE YOU TAKE SHOTS AT WILLIE FLOOD...THE LESS LIKELY IT IS THAT HEALY WILL GET VOTES FROM PEOPLE WHO LIKE WILLIE, BUT DON'T THINK SHE CAN WIN. WILLIE FLOOD IS A WELL LIKED PERSON, AND BY SHOWING HER SUCH DISRESPECT, YOU ARE ALIENATING PEOPLE WHO MIGHT CROSS OVER AND VOTE FOR HEALY. IF YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING YOUR CANDIDATE SOME GOOD....YOU ARE DEAD WRONG. GET SOME SMARTS AND CUT THE BULL. : The more nonsense that you post, the less likely I am to favour your candidate. If he loses the election...it just might be your fault. : : There is no way William Flood can win. He will finish dead last : : : : : We do address issues. And the reason we don't have signs is because everyone else is playing the pay to play game and they threaten people. That's it. Signs don't vote though! : : : : : : True that all these others aren't addressing issues but neither is Willie Flood. Why are her supporters not able to put up signs or be visible...what's up with that??? : : : : Address issues please!!!! : : : : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** 911 posted Message 6777 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 12:24:08 Subject: If they want Bush then they must be retarded He's a funny guy but not a good leader. Watch fahrenheit 911 you will see WHY. : That's what you think about seniors and veterans? : : : Hudson County GOP Chair Jose Arango announces the formation of Hudson County Democrats for Bush. : : : This is the first county Democrats for Bush organization in New Jersey. : : : To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Orange posted Message 6778 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 12:29:20 Subject: Ron - You Will Look Good in .... I hear he is one of the biggest real estate holders in Sussex County. Where's the Money Ron? : When he was public works director under Cucci. Where did all that money Go. I hear he owns four houses.Interesting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** This is my opinion. posted Message 6779 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 12:31:54 Subject: Re: FLOOD!!! I can say what I want. These are my views and opinions. Not necessarily those of Mrs Flood. I just like her. Her views and goals are REAL and she really has the good of the city at heart. So I have the right to say what I want. : The more nonsense that you post, the less likely I am to favour your candidate. If he loses the election...it just might be your fault. : : There is no way William Flood can win. He will finish dead last : : : : : We do address issues. And the reason we don't have signs is because everyone else is playing the pay to play game and they threaten people. That's it. Signs don't vote though! : : : : : : True that all these others aren't addressing issues but neither is Willie Flood. Why are her supporters not able to put up signs or be visible...what's up with that??? : : : : Address issues please!!!! : : : : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** This is my opinion. posted Message 6780 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 12:34:31 Subject: Re: FLOOD!!! I can say what I want. These are my views and opinions. Not necessarily those of Mrs Flood. I just like her. Her views and goals are REAL and she really has the good of the city at heart. So I have the right to say what I want. : The more nonsense that you post, the less likely I am to favour your candidate. If he loses the election...it just might be your fault. : : There is no way William Flood can win. He will finish dead last : : : : : We do address issues. And the reason we don't have signs is because everyone else is playing the pay to play game and they threaten people. That's it. Signs don't vote though! : : : : : : True that all these others aren't addressing issues but neither is Willie Flood. Why are her supporters not able to put up signs or be visible...what's up with that??? : : : : Address issues please!!!! : : : : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Answer the Question- Why Are You Supporting Healy? posted Message 6781 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 12:40:12 Subject: Re: DeGise - Come on TOmmy, we know that you and your sister who is on the county payroll spend your days monitoring this board, answer the question - Why are you supporting Healy? : Why should we voters vote for any of them. Pray tell why you think that we should vote for Healy. Your nonsense only leads me and others to believe that there is no concrete reason to vote for him or any of the other candidates. : : You would think that DeGise would come out and explain why he is supporting Healy. But he doesn't. The voters of Hudson County and more specifically Jersey City have to ask themselves why the support for Healy over the other 12 candidates running. : : Come on Tommy, You can think of something? Or is it being naieve to think that you have a position other than what your a$$-wipe Boss Bob Menendez tells you to say? : : The voters of HC have had enough of your double dealing. Anybody but Healy! : : : Jerry Healy is not a drunk, what a line of bull$hit. Healy is one of the biggest drunks in the city behind that a$$hole DeGise & that Homo Gaughan.Gerry McCann ,the ex-con, has a picture of Healy naked and pi$sing allover himself.It is amazing that anyone would even think of voting for that gay bastard Jerry Healy. : : : : : : : : ANYWAY OF SEEING FUTURE POSTS WITHOUT THE FOLLOWING WORDS: : : : : : HOMO : : : : : GAY : : : : : A$$ HOLE : : : : : EX-CON : : : : : JERRY IS NOT A DRUNK ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth Detector posted Message 6782 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 12:48:15 Subject: Re: If they want Bush then they must be retarded I'd rather watch paint dry. Fahrenheit 911 is filled with lies and the 9/11 report confirms this. If you can read, you should read it. I don't need Michael Moron to tell me what happened on 9/11. This guy was most likely in his Upper West Side Apt stuffing his face while NYC finest and bravest were rescuing people and dying for our country. Anyway, these Husdon County Democrats for Bush better be careful. Being for Bush in Hudson County, especially in JC, where the picture is taken, could cost you your life. I wouldn't be suprised if all of those upstanding Devilcrats (you know like Menendez, Jannezuski, Stack, Sires, and the rest of the corrupt bunch) make these people disappear. : He's a funny guy but not a good leader. Watch fahrenheit 911 you will see WHY. : : : That's what you think about seniors and veterans? : : : : Hudson County GOP Chair Jose Arango announces the formation of Hudson County Democrats for Bush. : : : : This is the first county Democrats for Bush organization in New Jersey. : : : : To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6783 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 13:09:49 Subject: Re: FLOOD!!! Mr. Floods supporters will not vote for Healy because he is white. Flood has no chance of winning so everybody in Ward F should just stay home on Nov 3rd. : NOTE TO DOLAN: THE MORE YOU TAKE SHOTS AT WILLIE FLOOD...THE LESS LIKELY IT IS THAT HEALY WILL GET VOTES FROM PEOPLE WHO LIKE WILLIE, BUT DON'T THINK SHE CAN WIN. : WILLIE FLOOD IS A WELL LIKED PERSON, AND BY SHOWING HER SUCH DISRESPECT, YOU ARE ALIENATING PEOPLE WHO MIGHT CROSS OVER AND VOTE FOR HEALY. : IF YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING YOUR CANDIDATE SOME GOOD....YOU ARE DEAD WRONG. GET SOME SMARTS AND CUT THE BULL. : : The more nonsense that you post, the less likely I am to favour your candidate. If he loses the election...it just might be your fault. : : : There is no way William Flood can win. He will finish dead last : : : : : : : We do address issues. And the reason we don't have signs is because everyone else is playing the pay to play game and they threaten people. That's it. Signs don't vote though! : : : : : : : : True that all these others aren't addressing issues but neither is Willie Flood. Why are her supporters not able to put up signs or be visible...what's up with that??? : : : : : Address issues please!!!! : : : : : : How low can these idiots go? They always talk about bull$hit that dosen't matter. Even people on Flood's behalf dont go throwing dirt around. That says alot. They don't have to discredit someone else to make themselves look good. That's what will put them over the top. We will make it happen. We may not be able to put signs up or be visible but OUR VOTE WILL BE HEARD! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6784 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 13:48:02 Subject: Motley Crue Hudson Republicans for Bush ... with Fearless Leader Jose Arango at the forefront. Thanks for the photo Anthony. Gave me a good laugh to start the day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6785 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 14:12:00 Subject: Start the day? At 1:45 in the AFTERNOON!?!? : Hudson Republicans for Bush ... with Fearless Leader Jose Arango at the forefront. : Thanks for the photo Anthony. Gave me a good laugh to start the day. Start the day? At 1:45 in the AFTERNOON!?!? You must work in Degise's office! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frankie Derat posted Message 6786 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 14:19:43 Subject: McCann really a spy for Healy camp Geery McCann & Buddy Demeleir are working together. They go back a long ways and Gerry still needs to settle a score with Manzo for getting him disqualified in 2001. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Onesided posted Message 6787 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 14:29:31 Subject: Fair Debate Tonight in JC? Lopsided debate.. fair? Moderator for the debate tonight at Lowe's is: Pat O'Melia, the same guy who came out publicly on this board and on his so called radio show as a Manzo supporter. He also has a Manzo Sign on his house... How fair is this going to be? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Does this mean they are Transgendered? posted Message 6788 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 14:33:08 Subject: Re: Online Video: Hudson County Democrats For Bush Does this mean they are Trannies? : Hudson County GOP Chair Jose Arango announces the formation of Hudson County Democrats for Bush. : This is the first county Democrats for Bush organization in New Jersey. : To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bonnacore The Invisible Man ...Are Living Together! posted Message 6789 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 14:35:35 Subject: Re: McCann really a spy for Healy camp Bonnacoure & the invisible man are living together! Rent free! It's good to have friends! : Geery McCann & Buddy Demeleir are working together. They go back a long ways and Gerry still needs to settle a score with Manzo for getting him disqualified in 2001. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Possibly true posted Message 6790 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 14:35:54 Subject: Re: McCann really a spy for Healy camp You have to remember DeGise & Buddy chose Gerry McCann to run their Heights operation in the 2001 runoff with Cunningham. Gerry McCann did produce very well for them in Ward D. : Geery McCann & Buddy Demeleir are working together. They go back a long ways and Gerry still needs to settle a score with Manzo for getting him disqualified in 2001. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pat O'Melia posted Message 6791 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 14:42:12 Subject: Re: Fair Debate Tonight in JC? : Lopsided debate.. fair? : Moderator for the debate tonight at Lowe's is: : Pat O'Melia, the same guy who came out publicly on this board and on his so called radio show as a Manzo supporter. He also has a Manzo Sign on his house... : How fair is this going to be? The Moderators are Earl Morgan of the Jersey Journal and Ricardo Kaulessar of the Jersey City Reporter. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Breaking news posted Message 6792 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 14:46:32 Subject: Buonocore case Ron Buonocore has now stated he lived with his gay lover Danny McMann on Cloumbia Ave. Ron had told his wife that this was true and she threw him out of the Hardyston home. Jealousy is the reason Lou Manzo took him to court. Now Lou & McCann are lovers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Extremely Doubtful posted Message 6793 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 14:58:02 Subject: Re: McCann really a spy for Healy camp Gerry's sister works in Lou's legislative office. Its a bit of a stretch to think he's trying to undermine Manzo's last shot at the Mayor's office. And Demellier has lost every campaign he's been involved with since he worked with Kiczek in Bayonne. If Healy wins, it will be despite Demellier, not because of him. So if you want to think about conspiracy theories...you should reverse the conspiracy. Instead of "McCann working with Demellier to scuttle Manzo"... its a lot more likely that they are working together to sink Healy. **************** : Geery McCann & Buddy Demeleir are working together. They go back a long ways and Gerry still needs to settle a score with Manzo for getting him disqualified in 2001. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Larry L posted Message 6794 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 15:08:49 Subject: Hey Pat What did you say about Lipski on your radio program? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jailbyrd posted Message 6795 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 15:10:07 Subject: McCann See what Prison does to a man ***************** End Of Article ****************** Democratic Chairman posted Message 6796 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 15:11:57 Subject: Jose - The HCDO and HCRP have merged under the leadership of Jose A : Hudson Republicans for Bush ... with Fearless Leader Jose Arango at the forefront. : Thanks for the photo Anthony. Gave me a good laugh to start the day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Duh posted Message 6797 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 15:19:29 Subject: What Idiot set the date for the debate? The first Presidential Debate is tonight. WHat idiot set the Mayoral debate for the same night? : Lopsided debate.. fair? : Moderator for the debate tonight at Lowe's is: : Pat O'Melia, the same guy who came out publicly on this board and on his so called radio show as a Manzo supporter. He also has a Manzo Sign on his house... : How fair is this going to be? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homo - Homo - Homo posted Message 6798 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 15:22:38 Subject: Healy People - One Trick Ponies Is that the only subject the Healy supporters can talk about? They are fixatated on homosexuality. When is this obsession going to be over? Stop bending over Jerry, all your supporters are going to jump out of the closet! : Ron Buonocore has now stated he lived with his gay lover Danny McMann on Cloumbia Ave. Ron had told his wife that this was true and she threw him out of the Hardyston home. Jealousy is the reason Lou Manzo took him to court. Now Lou & McCann are lovers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Is Drunk Gay Stupid posted Message 6799 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 15:34:23 Subject: Jerry Healy So is DeGise and Gaughan. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JACKIEJO posted Message 6800 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 15:52:44 Subject: Re: Jerry Healy AND SO IS YOUR MAMMA!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JACKIJO posted Message 6801 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 15:56:13 Subject: Re: Hey Pat PAT O'MEALIA IS THE BIGGEST A$4HOLE IN JERSEY CITY. BESIDE LOU & GARBAGE INSPECTOR GERRY MCCANN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JACKIEJO posted Message 6802 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 16:04:30 Subject: Re: FLOOD!!! : WILLIE FLOOD AND JERRY HEALY BOTH HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER SO STOP BASHING FLOOD SHE IS A WELL RESPECTED LADY AND JERRY A GENTLEMAN. TAKE AIM AT THE REAL CULPRIT MCMANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GEMBROTHER posted Message 6803 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 16:11:24 Subject: JCIA FELONS AND NOW WE HAVE MANZO SUPPORTERS BREAKING INTO COPS HOUSES FIRST IT WAS ACOUNCILMAN WHO HAD HIS PRIVACY VIOLATED NOW A COP AND THE CULPRIT WORKS FOR THE INCINERATOR AUTHORITY. AND MCCANN SENT HIM JUST LIKE HE SENT UNDERAGE FEMALES TO SET UP THE COUNCILMAN.JCIA EMPLOYEE WAS SEEN BY AN UNDERCOVER COP. WELL IT PROVES MANZO CAMP FULL OF FELONS.AND SECOND STORY MEN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You People are PATHETIC posted Message 6804 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 16:12:20 Subject: Go Change your Diapers : So is DeGise and Gaughan. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6805 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 16:13:17 Subject: Willie Flood I guess when McGreevy allowed same sex marriges Willie married Phil. They are both real nice guys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fed Up with McManzo posted Message 6806 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 16:16:02 Subject: McManzo doesn't deserve to hold any office It makes me ill to see the kind of desperate and disgusting tactics McManzo will stoop to. But as we get closer to the election...I'm sure it will get worse. Brace yourselves JC... the McManzo slime machine is in high gear. : AND NOW WE HAVE MANZO SUPPORTERS BREAKING INTO COPS HOUSES FIRST IT WAS ACOUNCILMAN WHO HAD HIS PRIVACY VIOLATED NOW A COP AND THE CULPRIT WORKS FOR THE INCINERATOR AUTHORITY. : AND MCCANN SENT HIM JUST LIKE HE SENT UNDERAGE FEMALES TO SET UP THE COUNCILMAN.JCIA EMPLOYEE WAS SEEN BY AN UNDERCOVER COP. : WELL IT PROVES MANZO CAMP FULL OF FELONS.AND SECOND STORY MEN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Eye in the Sky posted Message 6807 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 16:17:13 Subject: J Dolan takes to Cross Dressing Again : I guess when McGreevy allowed same sex marriges Willie married Phil. They are both real nice guys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6808 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 17:16:19 Subject: Tonite's Mayoral Debate to be broadcast at 6PM? Is tonite's Mayoral debate going to be on channel 64 at 6PM? How long will the debate last? ***************** End Of Article ****************** weno posted Message 6809 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 17:37:46 Subject: Re: weno WHO : still waiting 4 U 2 ID yourself come out come out where ever U are TIME 2 STEP UP 2 THE PLATE as 4 chances NO WAY ID your self 1"st BE A MAN I KNOW MY MOTHER RAISED ONE =MAN HOW BOUT you????|||||}||||}}|||}}|||| ::::Can't show your face at Chances? OK, how about Ringside? About 10 pm tonight. We'll rap. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 6810 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 21:55:59 Subject: Re: Willie Flood :::Its okay baby. you dont have to pick on no one else. I accept your wearing my bikinis. Now come home I have the beer in the fridge and a bottle of Ripple for you. Leave the Manzo signs in the car. : I guess when McGreevy allowed same sex marriges Willie married Phil. They are both real nice guys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pinky: little did you know what a real scum Harvey Smith really is but, from what we hear you do now! posted Message 6811 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 22:14:01 Subject: Re: Some people will cross any line... : Posted by Robin on March 15, 2003 at 19:26:05: : : Letter to the Editor, March 12, 2003 : : Article VI of the American Society Of Newspaper Editors states: : “…Journalism should respect the rights of people involved in the news, observe the common standards of decency and stand accountable to the public for fairness and accuracy of their news report.” : I am outraged by the callousness of the article written by Mr. Steven Glazer that ran on the front page of the Urban Times News, February 28- March 6, 2003 Edition. In his article critiquing Council President L. Harvey Smith, titled “Uncle Harvey Does it Again,” Mr. Glazer accused Mr. Smith of using the excuse of deaths in his family in South Carolina to escape the responsibilities to Jersey City. Mr. Glazer wrote: : ” Uncle Harvey could not be reached for comment by this newspaper. In fact Uncle Harvey can never be reached for comment by this newspaper. Long time political activists who have known him well and for a long time said, “Harvey has killed half the state of South Carolina by now. There are entire ghost towns there because of Harvey. Every time there is a problem or situation that he wants to avoid, there suddenly develops a serious illness or death of some family member in South Carolina. If it were true that somebody had really died every time Harvey ducked out of a confrontation of some sort saying it was due to a death of a family member in South Carolina, the entire state would be practically empty.” : I cannot imagine the pain of a parent who witnesses the death of their child. I certainly cannot imagine the emotions in the Smith household, when upon returning from their sons’ funeral in South Carolina they were exposed to such disheartening criticism and mockery of the premature death of their child. : I hold accountable the editors and owners of the Urban Times News who review and endorse the articles before the paper goes to print. I have heard of no action taken by them. Therefore, one must assume the article did not offend them. Similarly, anyone who runs a column or publishes a story in the Urban Times News must be held accountable for not speaking out against Mr. Glazer’s libelous journalism. In addition, the advertisers that continue to finance the newspaper must be held accountable too. Lastly, it sickens me that our local leaders fail to show the courage to publicly chastise this newspaper. In a civilized society the actions of Mr. Glazer and the Urban Times News are unacceptable. : I urge all of the aforementioned individuals and groups identified with the Urban Times News to condemn writers like Mr. Glazer who violate the Principles of Journalism and more so the standards of human decency. : To the public: I urge you to speak out against the wrongs in this world because left unattended you can be the next victim. Not only should you speak out, but also you can take action by withdrawing your support for and by boycotting all advertisers and individuals who associate their names with the Urban Times News. : Mr. Smith, we mourn with you as we all do over the passing of a family member. : We apologize as a community for the actions of those who embarrass the majority of us all with their consciousless actions, : : Robin Pinkowitz : Jersey City NJ : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anyone know posted Message 6812 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2004 at 22:33:05 Subject: Re: Ron (THE CON) Bonocoure - If his former landlord is giving similar deals to others. I want to live that cheaply...and have someone do my laundry for me and cook for me. : Ron Boncoure as reported in the JJ today said he lived in a basement apartment, but get this: : 1. did not sign a lease : 2...did not pay rent : 3. did not have gas/electric bills in his name : 4. did not have driver license or car insurance showing the address : 5. did not cook or wash clothes there(He went 'home' to Sussex county to take care of these needs) : 6. did not have his police records show him living there : 7. tenant there said she never say ROn there : For someone who wants to be Mayor of the second largest city in the state,you would think the guy would have enought smarts to touch all the bases and at least on paper make it look like he lived there. Ron, on that alone you don't deserve to even be on the ballot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 6813 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 01:28:00 Subject: Jackson & Manzo That is Michael Jackson & lou Manzo... Perfect together! ***************** End Of Article ****************** say what? posted Message 6814 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 08:54:47 Subject: Re: Tonite's Mayoral Debate to be broadcast at 6PM? : Is tonite's Mayoral debate going to be on channel 64 at 6PM? How long will the debate last? :::::Were there JC mayoral debates held last night? If so, it was the least advertised event since the Normandy invasion. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anthony Olszewski posted Message 6815 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 09:40:04 Subject: I'm very sorry to learn of your mother's poor health. I'm very sorry to learn of your mother's poor health. Even though my parents died well over a decade ago – one after a long illness, the other suddenly – I know that the illness of a parent is a time of trial and suffering for the entire family. You and Lois are very lucky to have had the benefit of your mother's experience throughout your adult lives. Not a day goes by that I don't wish that I could speak with my parents. But, I can't agree with you that the public does not have the right to question the private actions of public officials. As we've recently seen with Governor McGreevey, the real mistake is in NOT scrutinizing every facet of the lives of those in power. The cure for BAD INFORMATION is GOOD INFORMATION, NOT CENSORSHIP! Anthony Olszewski : One can only imagine how distasteful it is to read about your 87 year old Mom on this cesspool of a message board. my Mom entered Cusack Center last year after suffering thru both a serious injury and an illness. She entered as a non-medicaid patientas there were and still are open beds at this great facility. In fact they have asked us to distribute their pamphlets to help attract new clients. Any child who is faced with the decision of placing a parent in a nursing home, as my sister and I have, knows how heart wrenching that decision is. To have this used as political fodder to score points in an election I am not even a candidate in is the act of an anonymous coward. This is a one time response as I will not enter this sty again. I have supplied my personal email for anyone wishing any intelligent discourse on this or anything else.BTW, Dan Battista's mom passed awy several decades ago. Where exactly is the line we are not suopposed to cross? Tom : : I think I'll send this post to the Star Ledger, JJ and Reporter. : : : : : IT SEEMS THE PERKS OF BEING A WELL-CONNECTED POLITICAL HACK IN HUDSON COUNTY NEVER END. : : : NOW ITS DO-NOTHING BATISTA'S MOTHER WHO JUMPED TO THE HEAD OF THE LINE TO GET INTO ST. JOSEPH'S HOME, JOINING TOMMY DEGISE'S MOTHER. : : : IS THERE A QUID PRO QUO GOING ON HERE? : : : ARE TAXPAYERS MONEY BEING USED TO SUBSIDIZE THE LIFE-STYLES OF THOSE IN POWER? : : : PETER HARVEY, ITS TIME YOU VISITED HUDSON COUNTY. : : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Down with wphoran posted Message 6816 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 10:41:08 Subject: Blowhard! This guy thinks he is a political genius! Constantly blows his own horn. He is the most ineffective committee person I know. No one in the city will listen to him. We all know where to find you and who you are so be careful what you post. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dave posted Message 6817 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 10:48:41 Subject: McCann Jerry, please be careful of who you threaten, who you paint, who you take phots of, who's house you break into. You were a coward as a child and remain one as an adult. No one is above the law. A virus such as yourself will be cured. Iron your orange suit because you will soon be wearing it again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** now we know posted Message 6818 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 10:49:58 Subject: Re: Is Jimmy DICKson Hiding ????? : : : : : : : : : : : : I AM NOT SCARED I LIVE @972 SUMMIT AVE MY CELL IS 2013203729 IAM HERE FOR GOOD GOV'T IF YOU WANT TO TAKE ME ON HERE I AM : : :weno still waiting 4 YOU to ID yourself BE A MAN AND STEP UP : : 2 THE PLATE :::::Goodnight, Briget ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6819 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 10:54:11 Subject: Pat O'Melia's Mayoral Debate Cable Broadcast Schedule Pat O'Melia's Mayoral Debate will be on Comcast Channel 64 on October 7 at 9PM, October 12 at 7:30PM and on October 14 at 9PM. Pat O'Melia's weekly television show will debut on Thursday, October 14 at 8PM. In addtion to the political figures who appear on the radio show, there will also be guests from the entire spectrum of Hudson County life. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anti McCann posted Message 6820 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 11:02:48 Subject: Gerald McCann Gerry how is Maureen? It must be great at 25 Carmita Ave, Rutherford, NJ. I have never seen such a background, your history is full of law suits and convictions. The public will soon see it all, after all it is a matter of public record. The city will soon see you for the crap that you are! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tool Time posted Message 6821 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 11:04:26 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia's is a Manzo Tool Pat O'Melia's is a Manzo tool. Pat O'Melia is just a tool in general! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Down with Pat posted Message 6822 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 11:05:05 Subject: What A Bunch of Crap!!! Pat is a Manzo supporter! The whole thing was just like him, a big joke! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Remember when posted Message 6823 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 11:10:22 Subject: Burds of a feather McCann is the same guy when outgoing Mayor destroyed public files in the Mayor's office then super glued the locks to the mayors office and in a final act of defiance, uri nated on the rugs before he was thrown out on his rear end. And now he's Manzo Campaign confidant and Assembly Chief of Staff. Speaks volumes of McManzo "Burds" of a feather". Jerry McCann - Birdman of Altoona! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tool Time posted Message 6824 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 11:14:12 Subject: Pat O'Melia P{at believes he has a radio show that people listen to. He is the worse and laughed at by others in his industry. Pat thinks he's a power house and is on par with other media as all candidates need to come to him to get on "HIS" show. When did you ever hear of a media person publically coming out to support a candidate .. even months before the election no less. Ignore this fool. He will crawl back into the hole he came out of. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No Fan of Gerry..... posted Message 6825 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 12:19:23 Subject: But keep it real and accurate I worked in city hall when McCann was tossed out on his rear. I was in and out of the Mayor's suite moving boxes that week. (Helping Marilyn Roman move in). No one destroyed files or super glued any locks on doors or urin ated on any carpets. That's nothing but rumors. McCann left, but his staff stayed on under Mayor Roman. So the rumors you started years ago were garbage then...and are still garbage now. I am no fan of Gerry McCann. But there are a lot of "real" things he did that are enough to feather him with, we don't need to add lies on top of all of it. : McCann is the same guy when outgoing Mayor destroyed public files in the Mayor's office then super glued the locks to the mayors office and in a final act of defiance, uri nated on the rugs before he was thrown out on his rear end. : And now he's Manzo Campaign confidant and Assembly Chief of Staff. : Speaks volumes of McManzo : "Burds" of a feather". : Jerry McCann - Birdman of Altoona! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The incredible Truth posted Message 6826 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 12:45:09 Subject: Tony Amabile is Gay He will have a coming out party at Nico's Sat Nite at 8:30. All are welcome and Chippendales will be there, also Ricahrd Simmons will make a guest apperance. Music by Elton John.Amabile has many contracts throughout the county it's rumored Bill Gaughan will be a consultant for him if Healy wins the campaign. How many contracts can Amabile get & jobs Gaughan can hold. It seems these two guys are very close. Tony Amabile is constantly on his kness in front front Gaughan begging for contrats. I hope Gaughan wears a condom because I heard Amabile has HIV. See you Saturday Nite.... MORE TO FOLLOW ABOUT THI GAY BASTARRD. Come visit my website at Politics and Gay Bastards.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tony can succkk a golf ball thru a garden hose posted Message 6827 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 12:50:44 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile is Gay : He will have a coming out party at Nico's Sat Nite at 8:30. : All are welcome and Chippendales will be there, also Ricahrd Simmons will make a guest apperance. Music by Elton John.Amabile has many contracts throughout the county it's rumored Bill Gaughan will be a consultant for him if Healy wins the campaign. How many contracts can Amabile get & jobs Gaughan can hold. It seems these two guys are very close. Tony Amabile is constantly on his kness in front front Gaughan begging for contrats. I hope Gaughan wears a condom because I heard Amabile has HIV. See you Saturday Nite.... MORE TO FOLLOW ABOUT THI GAY BASTARRD. : Come visit my website at Politics and Gay Bastards.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** sAL AND mAURICE? posted Message 6828 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 13:48:06 Subject: WhAT aBOUT wHILE WERE DOING FALL CLEANING, WHY DOESN'T EVERYONE GET THEIR LIENEN OUT OF THE CLOSET. : So is DeGise and Gaughan. ***************** End Of Article ****************** i'LL DOING ANYTHING TO STAY ON THE TIT posted Message 6829 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 13:54:11 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile is bOUGHT AND PAID FOR NOTHING LIKE A LOYAL SOLDIER TO DO WHATEVER HIS MASTERS TELL HIM. SEEMS HE EVEN TAUGHT HIS GIRLFRIEND, (HE'S GOT HER ON THE PAYROLL TOO!) HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. WHEN WILL THIS STOP!! HOW LOW CAN YOU GO TONY? : : He will have a coming out party at Nico's Sat Nite at 8:30. : : All are welcome and Chippendales will be there, also Ricahrd Simmons will make a guest apperance. Music by Elton John.Amabile has many contracts throughout the county it's rumored Bill Gaughan will be a consultant for him if Healy wins the campaign. How many contracts can Amabile get & jobs Gaughan can hold. It seems these two guys are very close. Tony Amabile is constantly on his kness in front front Gaughan begging for contrats. I hope Gaughan wears a condom because I heard Amabile has HIV. See you Saturday Nite.... MORE TO FOLLOW ABOUT THI GAY BASTARRD. : : Come visit my website at Politics and Gay Bastards.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amabile the gay bastard posted Message 6830 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 13:56:15 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile is bOUGHT AND PAID FOR He ain't got a girlfriend he likes the meat stick. : NOTHING LIKE A LOYAL SOLDIER TO DO WHATEVER HIS MASTERS TELL HIM. : SEEMS HE EVEN TAUGHT HIS GIRLFRIEND, (HE'S GOT HER ON THE PAYROLL TOO!) HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. : WHEN WILL THIS STOP!! : HOW LOW CAN YOU GO TONY? : : : : He will have a coming out party at Nico's Sat Nite at 8:30. : : : All are welcome and Chippendales will be there, also Ricahrd Simmons will make a guest apperance. Music by Elton John.Amabile has many contracts throughout the county it's rumored Bill Gaughan will be a consultant for him if Healy wins the campaign. How many contracts can Amabile get & jobs Gaughan can hold. It seems these two guys are very close. Tony Amabile is constantly on his kness in front front Gaughan begging for contrats. I hope Gaughan wears a condom because I heard Amabile has HIV. See you Saturday Nite.... MORE TO FOLLOW ABOUT THI GAY BASTARRD. : : : Come visit my website at Politics and Gay Bastards.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Dgis posted Message 6831 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 14:00:08 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile is Gay I have only met him once or twice but he does sound gay when he speaks. I wonder if Bill Gaughan thinks he has an illness. : : He will have a coming out party at Nico's Sat Nite at 8:30. : : All are welcome and Chippendales will be there, also Ricahrd Simmons will make a guest apperance. Music by Elton John.Amabile has many contracts throughout the county it's rumored Bill Gaughan will be a consultant for him if Healy wins the campaign. How many contracts can Amabile get & jobs Gaughan can hold. It seems these two guys are very close. Tony Amabile is constantly on his kness in front front Gaughan begging for contrats. I hope Gaughan wears a condom because I heard Amabile has HIV. See you Saturday Nite.... MORE TO FOLLOW ABOUT THI GAY BASTARRD. : : Come visit my website at Politics and Gay Bastards.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** FAMILY MEMBERS ARE ON THE COUNTY PAYROLL? posted Message 6832 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 14:04:20 Subject: TOM DEGISE - SO JUST HOW MANY SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** TONY TAKES IT AND GIVES IT posted Message 6833 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 14:06:44 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile -sWINGS BOTH WAYS HE GOES BOTH WAYS!, PREFERABBLY AT THE SAME TIME. TONY, IS YOUR DIP STICK GETTING WORN OUT? : He ain't got a girlfriend he likes the meat stick. : : NOTHING LIKE A LOYAL SOLDIER TO DO WHATEVER HIS MASTERS TELL HIM. : : SEEMS HE EVEN TAUGHT HIS GIRLFRIEND, (HE'S GOT HER ON THE PAYROLL TOO!) HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. : : WHEN WILL THIS STOP!! : : HOW LOW CAN YOU GO TONY? : : : : : : He will have a coming out party at Nico's Sat Nite at 8:30. : : : : All are welcome and Chippendales will be there, also Ricahrd Simmons will make a guest apperance. Music by Elton John.Amabile has many contracts throughout the county it's rumored Bill Gaughan will be a consultant for him if Healy wins the campaign. How many contracts can Amabile get & jobs Gaughan can hold. It seems these two guys are very close. Tony Amabile is constantly on his kness in front front Gaughan begging for contrats. I hope Gaughan wears a condom because I heard Amabile has HIV. See you Saturday Nite.... MORE TO FOLLOW ABOUT THI GAY BASTARRD. : : : : Come visit my website at Politics and Gay Bastards.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Richard Simmons posted Message 6834 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 14:07:18 Subject: Re: TOM DEGISE - is gay with Gaughan : SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? : YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. : LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF : YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). : YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? : HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? : CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? : TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? : WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** greek guys posted Message 6835 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 14:08:37 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile -is into : HE GOES BOTH WAYS!, PREFERABBLY AT THE SAME TIME. : TONY, IS YOUR DIP STICK GETTING WORN OUT? : : He ain't got a girlfriend he likes the meat stick. : : : NOTHING LIKE A LOYAL SOLDIER TO DO WHATEVER HIS MASTERS TELL HIM. : : : SEEMS HE EVEN TAUGHT HIS GIRLFRIEND, (HE'S GOT HER ON THE PAYROLL TOO!) HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. : : : WHEN WILL THIS STOP!! : : : HOW LOW CAN YOU GO TONY? : : : : : : : : He will have a coming out party at Nico's Sat Nite at 8:30. : : : : : All are welcome and Chippendales will be there, also Ricahrd Simmons will make a guest apperance. Music by Elton John.Amabile has many contracts throughout the county it's rumored Bill Gaughan will be a consultant for him if Healy wins the campaign. How many contracts can Amabile get & jobs Gaughan can hold. It seems these two guys are very close. Tony Amabile is constantly on his kness in front front Gaughan begging for contrats. I hope Gaughan wears a condom because I heard Amabile has HIV. See you Saturday Nite.... MORE TO FOLLOW ABOUT THI GAY BASTARRD. : : : : : Come visit my website at Politics and Gay Bastards.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** doesn't like bush posted Message 6836 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 14:13:45 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile is Gay : I have only met him once or twice but he does sound gay when he speaks. I wonder if Bill Gaughan thinks he has an illness. : : : He will have a coming out party at Nico's Sat Nite at 8:30. : : : All are welcome and Chippendales will be there, also Ricahrd Simmons will make a guest apperance. Music by Elton John.Amabile has many contracts throughout the county it's rumored Bill Gaughan will be a consultant for him if Healy wins the campaign. How many contracts can Amabile get & jobs Gaughan can hold. It seems these two guys are very close. Tony Amabile is constantly on his kness in front front Gaughan begging for contrats. I hope Gaughan wears a condom because I heard Amabile has HIV. See you Saturday Nite.... MORE TO FOLLOW ABOUT THI GAY BASTARRD. : : : Come visit my website at Politics and Gay Bastards.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Triple Dippers posted Message 6837 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 14:15:23 Subject: Tom DeGise and JohnBennett you got to hand it to Tom, he is emulating one of the biggest Triple Dippers of all time -John Bennett from Monmouth. John is now on the county payroll, showing Tom how to turn one county job into two, and then two into four, etc. Tom you are a quick learner! damn! Is a DeGise National Bank next on your to-do list? : SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? : YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. : LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF : YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). : YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? : HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? : CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? : TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? : WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** money! money! money! posted Message 6838 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 14:24:10 Subject: what drives Tony Amabile? tony's mo is pretty simple, money. he will trash family, friends, even girl friends for George Washingtons's. he'll even take it where the sun don;t shine for a few sheckels. : : HE GOES BOTH WAYS!, PREFERABBLY AT THE SAME TIME. : : TONY, IS YOUR DIP STICK GETTING WORN OUT? : : : He ain't got a girlfriend he likes the meat stick. : : : : NOTHING LIKE A LOYAL SOLDIER TO DO WHATEVER HIS MASTERS TELL HIM. : : : : SEEMS HE EVEN TAUGHT HIS GIRLFRIEND, (HE'S GOT HER ON THE PAYROLL TOO!) HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. : : : : WHEN WILL THIS STOP!! : : : : HOW LOW CAN YOU GO TONY? : : : : : : : : : : He will have a coming out party at Nico's Sat Nite at 8:30. : : : : : : All are welcome and Chippendales will be there, also Ricahrd Simmons will make a guest apperance. Music by Elton John.Amabile has many contracts throughout the county it's rumored Bill Gaughan will be a consultant for him if Healy wins the campaign. How many contracts can Amabile get & jobs Gaughan can hold. It seems these two guys are very close. Tony Amabile is constantly on his kness in front front Gaughan begging for contrats. I hope Gaughan wears a condom because I heard Amabile has HIV. See you Saturday Nite.... MORE TO FOLLOW ABOUT THI GAY BASTARRD. : : : : : : Come visit my website at Politics and Gay Bastards.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** For not caving in to HCDO Censorship posted Message 6839 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 14:27:07 Subject: congratulations to GETNJ Webmaster - The webmaster of this board has to be congratulated for not caving in to the strong-armed tactics by the DeGise administration to take down the posts that expose his corrupt administration. Suggestion, instead of taking down the posts, send them on to the Prosecutor's Ofice. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6840 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 14:46:10 Subject: I thought Tony was .. boinking Betty Spinelli ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BREAKING NEWS posted Message 6841 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 15:16:55 Subject: RON BON IS OUT ALSO ELECT FUNDS ARE FROZEN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Strategist posted Message 6842 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 15:53:47 Subject: He should support Willie, at least she won't fire him. And maybe Sandy will follow. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6843 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 16:42:30 Subject: To add insult to injury, a lemon was left in a drawer in the Mayor's desk with a note pinned to it with these parting words of advice: S.UCK ON THIS! The story of McCann trashing the Mayor's office was when he did the first stage exit after losing the election to Tony Cucci. The story I heard was that the rugs were soaked in urine. To add insult to injury, a lemon was left in a drawer in the Mayor's desk with a note pinned to it with these parting words of advice: S.UCK ON THIS! I wasn't there. I have no idea if these stories are true. If the facts are incorrect, then it's a myth that's become part of the fabric of Jersey City life. : I worked in city hall when McCann was tossed out on his rear. I was in and out of the Mayor's suite moving boxes that week. (Helping Marilyn Roman move in). No one destroyed files or super glued any locks on doors or urin ated on any carpets. That's nothing but rumors. : McCann left, but his staff stayed on under Mayor Roman. So the rumors you started years ago were garbage then...and are still garbage now. I am no fan of Gerry McCann. But there are a lot of "real" things he did that are enough to feather him with, we don't need to add lies on top of all of it. : : McCann is the same guy when outgoing Mayor destroyed public files in the Mayor's office then super glued the locks to the mayors office and in a final act of defiance, uri nated on the rugs before he was thrown out on his rear end. : : And now he's Manzo Campaign confidant and Assembly Chief of Staff. : : Speaks volumes of McManzo : : "Burds" of a feather". : : Jerry McCann - Birdman of Altoona! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 6844 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 17:31:22 Subject: FLOOD AFTER THE STORMS Urban Times News September 17, 2004 - September 23, 2004 FLOOD AFTER THE STORMS By Arnold Stovell Entering the race late but strong, the Flood campaign has officially filed its signatures with the Hudson County Clerk's office to participate in the mayoral race this November. The Committee to Elect Willie Flood is hard at work recruiting volunteers, meeting people, raising awareness and ensuring that the legacy of former Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham is rightfully upheld. The Committee to Elect Willie Flood has produced flyers and pamphlets extorting the qualifications of a true servant to Jersey City, but already agents of the Acting Mayor are working to neutralize their efforts. Late night goon squads have torn down campaign signs and posters that were hung for Willie Flood. Neighborhood sources say the culprits were agents of the Acting Mayor. Rumors regarding Flood's health and competency have been floated, purportedly started by the deputy administrators working under Smith. The Acting Mayor Council President has even gone so far as to bar Ms. Flood from Senior Citizen complexes. He is more than aware that Ms. Flood is a longtime champion and friend to senior citizens in Jersey City and he cannot allow her to solidify that base if he wants to win. According to the head of Senior Affairs, Larry Eckerson, "No one may campaign in a senior complex as it receives the benefits of federally funded programs." When it was noted that these actions make sure the Acting Mayor is the only campaigner allowed to have contact with seniors, Mr. Eckerson was more specific, "elected officials are not restricted from entering these buildings, but those seeking election cannot campaign in federally subsidized facilities." Mr. Eckerson would not admit to this being a mandate from the mayor's office, but on the surface this appears to be another Acting Mayor tactic to bully his way into office. Unfortunately there is no city authority to challenge such declarations other than your vote. In the words of a former commissioner who resigned under the Acting Mayor's actions, "I've seen a lot of elections in Jersey City", said a former commissioner who resigned under the Acting Mayor's actions, "once you get in the voting booth only you know what you'll do, so intimidation does not work..." Without these tactics, Smith knows he has neither the popularity nor the plan to win a Jersey City election. Despite the concentrated efforts of the Acting Mayor Council President to first, endear himself to voters and now to force himself upon them, Willie Flood shows in her demeanor and her record just how much the acting head of city government is missing. We talked to Ms. Flood about her filing and her vision for her campaign. "We had about a thousand names on our petitions. We also had a lot of voter registration forms as people had moved and we had to make sure their information was correct. The Clerk had to clock in every document so it took quite a while. As soon as we came in Judge Healy and crew came to file also. They spoke to me very politely and I went over to them and spoke because I knew everyone that was with them. I've been with the Democratic Party for a very long time. I've always worked and helped others to get elected, so they know, because these are the same people that I helped and these are the same people that also helped me, and we always did things together and that is why I feel very strongly about bringing in the entire Hudson Democratic party." (Flood is the former Vice Chairperson of the Hudson County Democratic Organization.) Willie Flood has clear priorities in this election. They are every day liberties, priorities that she says focus on the needs of all the people of Jersey City and continue the work that Glenn D. Cunningham started. "I want to focus on crime and affordable housing for the citizens of Jersey City. For the citizens who love this city and want to live here, I want to make sure they are not priced out (of this city). I want to focus on the city infrastructure, and make sure that we're not putting too many people on top of people and that the city can bear the additional people. When things like storm surges and hurricanes hit, I want to make sure we can handle it. I want to make our, streets safe again for our seniors. That they be able to walk the streets without worrying that someone is going to hurt them, and that the children have a strong education system. If we have a strong educational system we will have a strong city because those children will grow up to be good citizens." When asked about the recently approved bond refinancing issue, Ms. Flood offered this about the deal the Council and Acting Mayor have now backed themselves into supporting. "It is peculiar to me that former Mayor Cunningham so desperately wanted to do the bond deal when taxes were very low and interest rates were so low and he was trying to get it through and of course that would have helped the taxpayer in Jersey City not having to pay higher taxes and the City Council never approved it. It is peculiar to me that now that Harvey is Acting Mayor, he wants to do a bond deal, but interest rates are higher now and it won't help as much as the original plan." Urban Times News also spoke to Ms. Flood about her meeting with Acting Mayor Council President L. Harvey Smith. Cunningham supporters remember how Smith was not only insensitive to the public outcry when beloved Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham passed, but his vindictiveness in refusing to pay Flood and firing her from her position via telegram. "What struck me the most about our conversation was that it was almost as if he had forgotten that we (Reformed Democratic Organization) were the ones that worked very hard to get him elected (while running on the Cunningham ticket). We didn't leave him. He left us, after he took the seat." Supporter Richard Gallo enthusiastically summed up his own interpretation of the Flood campaign, "We've had hurricane Frances Ivan and we've had hurricane Ivan, but now that the storms have gone, the Flood is coming! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Save me from 70's memories posted Message 6845 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 17:34:09 Subject: Maybe that's why last year the HCDO sent out those pictures of Archie and Edith. For the HCDO, it's ALL IN THE FAMILY! : SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? : YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. : LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF : YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). : YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? : HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? : CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? : TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? : WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Betty Baby! posted Message 6846 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 17:51:56 Subject: Who drives Tony Amabile? Tony's live in squeeze, Betty Spinelli has a leash around his head and faithfully takes tony for a walk every night so he can do his business. : tony's mo is pretty simple, money. he will trash family, friends, even girl friends for George Washingtons's. he'll even take it where the sun don;t shine for a few sheckels. : : : : HE GOES BOTH WAYS!, PREFERABBLY AT THE SAME TIME. : : : TONY, IS YOUR DIP STICK GETTING WORN OUT? : : : : He ain't got a girlfriend he likes the meat stick. : : : : : NOTHING LIKE A LOYAL SOLDIER TO DO WHATEVER HIS MASTERS TELL HIM. : : : : : SEEMS HE EVEN TAUGHT HIS GIRLFRIEND, (HE'S GOT HER ON THE PAYROLL TOO!) HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. : : : : : WHEN WILL THIS STOP!! : : : : : HOW LOW CAN YOU GO TONY? : : : : : : : : : : : : He will have a coming out party at Nico's Sat Nite at 8:30. : : : : : : : All are welcome and Chippendales will be there, also Ricahrd Simmons will make a guest apperance. Music by Elton John.Amabile has many contracts throughout the county it's rumored Bill Gaughan will be a consultant for him if Healy wins the campaign. How many contracts can Amabile get & jobs Gaughan can hold. It seems these two guys are very close. Tony Amabile is constantly on his kness in front front Gaughan begging for contrats. I hope Gaughan wears a condom because I heard Amabile has HIV. See you Saturday Nite.... MORE TO FOLLOW ABOUT THI GAY BASTARRD. : : : : : : : Come visit my website at Politics and Gay Bastards.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** IN DEEP DO DO! posted Message 6847 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 17:58:05 Subject: Re: RON (THE CON) IS --- -- The judge threw Ron (The soon to be CON) off the ballot. But that's not half of Ron;s problems, the case was referred by the assignment judge to the Prosecutor for further action. If Ron lied about living in JC he could be fitted for an organge suit. Don;t worry Ron it will go well with a black tie. : ALSO ELECT FUNDS ARE FROZEN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nepotism is Allowed? posted Message 6848 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 18:09:36 Subject: Is this really true? I just moved here from Kansas Is this story a lot of bunk or can the County Executive hire memebers of his own family? I hope some one can give me a straight answer. Isn't it against the law? : For the HCDO, it's ALL IN THE FAMILY! : : SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? : : YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. : : LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF : : YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). : : YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? : : HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? : : CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? : : TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? : : WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey's the Man posted Message 6849 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 18:22:38 Subject: Post Positions It looks like: column A belongs to: Mayor Harvey Smith - THis should help our good mayor garner some extra votes, plus being the incumbent wouldn't hurt his vote count. Column B Assemblyman Louis Manzo - Assemblyman Manzo, the top challenger to Mayor Smith has a excllent positon out of the line of 10+. Column C, D E (somebody named Pine?, etc.) The next three positions belong to candidates who will be luck to carry their family in the voting. Column F Jerry Healy - aka Astor Bar Top Candidate Sorry Jerry, you would need the peripheral vision of a Top Gun to see that far down the ballot. Make sure your supporters don't start to drink until they vote... and hand out cards with your name spelled clearly, H E A L Y so they will have a shot at finding your name on the ballot. Go Jerry Go! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let's Make Your Tax Return Public posted Message 6850 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 18:45:32 Subject: Re: Tom DeGise and the IRS Wouldn;t it be interesting to see Tom DeGise's tax return? I wonder if he claims all the perks he gets as income, like all those golf outings to Union County, Tommy, are you playing golf on taxpsyers time? Then there are the vacations spots, Is the free air tickets and digs claimed as extra 1099 income? We know those perks have to get into the 6 figures. I hope Uncle Sam is getting his cut. : you got to hand it to Tom, he is emulating one of the biggest Triple Dippers of all time -John Bennett from Monmouth. : John is now on the county payroll, showing Tom how to turn one county job into two, and then two into four, etc. : Tom you are a quick learner! damn! Is a DeGise National Bank next on your to-do list? : : : SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? : : YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. : : LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF : : YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). : : YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? : : HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? : : CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? : : TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? : : WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The law is just a technicality posted Message 6851 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 19:41:36 Subject: Re: Is this really true? I just moved here from Kansas This is Hudson County where we disgrace the American flag on a regular basis with our banana republic politics. If you really are from Kansas, stick around a while...you'll have some very interesting stories to tell your friends and family back home. Greed, corruption, little blue pills for ED (the webmaster doesn't allow the name of the drug on the website but I'm sure you'll understand), you name it, we have it. : Is this story a lot of bunk or can the County Executive hire memebers of his own family? I hope some one can give me a straight answer. Isn't it against the law? : : For the HCDO, it's ALL IN THE FAMILY! : : : SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? : : : YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. : : : LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF : : : YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). : : : YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? : : : HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? : : : CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? : : : TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? : : : WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** EYES ON THE COUNTY posted Message 6852 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 20:04:59 Subject: 'BLIND - GATE' BLIND GATE IS DEFINED AS 'PEOPLE WHO HAVE POLITICAL INFLUENCE TO GAIN A SPECIAL EXEMPTION FOR FAMILY MEMBERS TO GAIN A HOSPITAL BED AT ST. JOSEPH HOME FOR THE BLIND. THERE IS A SYSTEM OF POLITICAL INFLUENCE EXERTED BY THE DEGISE ADMINISTRATION THAT BREAKS THE RULES ALLOWING RELATIVES TO JUMP TO THE TOP OF THE WAITING LIST. SPECIAL EDITION OF BLIND GATE II TO BE PUBLISHED THIS SUNDAY. STAY TUNED FOR MORE CHILLING DETAILS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FROM KANSAS posted Message 6853 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 20:14:56 Subject: CAN'T THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICALS STOP THIS? CAN'T THE AUTHORITIES STEP IN AND STOP THIS? IN KANSAS A POLITICAL THAT HAD THEIR RELATIVES ON THE PAYROLL WOULD BE DRIVEN OUT OF TOWN IN DISGRACE. DOESN'T THIS GUY GEGISE HAVE ANY SHAME? IS HE A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN? WHEN IS HE RUNNING AGAIN? I'LL MAKE SURE NOT TO VOTE FOR HIM! ITS AMAZING! I'AM GOING TO SEND THIS POST TO MY RELATIVES IN KANSAS. : This is Hudson County where we disgrace the American flag on a regular basis with our banana republic politics. : If you really are from Kansas, stick around a while...you'll have some very interesting stories to tell your friends and family back home. Greed, corruption, little blue pills for ED (the webmaster doesn't allow the name of the drug on the website but I'm sure you'll understand), you name it, we have it. : : Is this story a lot of bunk or can the County Executive hire memebers of his own family? I hope some one can give me a straight answer. Isn't it against the law? : : : For the HCDO, it's ALL IN THE FAMILY! : : : : SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? : : : : YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. : : : : LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF : : : : YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). : : : : YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? : : : : HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? : : : : CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? : : : : TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? : : : : WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6854 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 20:21:16 Subject: Re: Is this really true? I just moved here from Kansas Welcome to Hudson County! Yes, you're not in Kansas anymore! : Is this story a lot of bunk or can the County Executive hire memebers of his own family? I hope some one can give me a straight answer. Isn't it against the law? : : For the HCDO, it's ALL IN THE FAMILY! : : : SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? : : : YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. : : : LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF : : : YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). : : : YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? : : : HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? : : : CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? : : : TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? : : : WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** mAYBE That's the Problem! posted Message 6855 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 20:30:45 Subject: Re: TOM DEGISE - is gay with Gaughan this guy DeGise seems to not have a handle on what he is doing. Sounds like other people are running his life. maybe he is into something kinky, maybe his boyfriend is too dominate? I hear McGreevy wants to move into JC. : : SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? : : YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. : : LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF : : YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). : : YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? : : HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? : : CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? : : TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? : : WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6856 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 20:34:58 Subject: Re: CAN'T THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICALS STOP THIS? : CAN'T THE AUTHORITIES STEP IN AND STOP THIS? IN KANSAS A POLITICAL THAT HAD THEIR RELATIVES ON THE PAYROLL WOULD BE DRIVEN OUT OF TOWN IN DISGRACE. DOESN'T THIS GUY GEGISE HAVE ANY SHAME? IS HE A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN? WHEN IS HE RUNNING AGAIN? I'LL MAKE SURE NOT TO VOTE FOR HIM! ITS AMAZING! I'AM GOING TO SEND THIS POST TO MY RELATIVES IN KANSAS. Things get curiouser and curiouser. Just the other day I ran into a regular from the Howard Stern show -- Drunken Jamie -- campaigning for Healy, DeGise's candidate for Mayor of Jersey City. See the Link for articles on some shenanigans from the last few years. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Drunk People on His Show posted Message 6857 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 20:35:42 Subject: Are you mad because Pat does let --- Are you taken back with Pat's rules that anyone who shows up drunk can't get on his show? : Pat O'Melia's is a Manzo tool. : Pat O'Melia is just a tool in general! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Remember When posted Message 6858 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 20:57:39 Subject: The Real story Dear simple mind, Get a clue and no one wants to know you life story or cares. It was when McCann was tossed out of office the 1st time, when the voters sent him packing and Tony Cucci beat McCann after having spent 4 years as mayor. I also suggest, for your reading pleasure, the front page of Jersey Journal at that time... please check your local archives of same story with photos. Oh yes, you will probably see it soon in a diect mail piece to refresh all voters memories or alert new voters what a piece of filth Manzo is hanging around with. So next time before you go shooting off your mouth, like a true Manzoite, get your facts straight! Also ask Jerry about his broken jaw he received in jail and the iron they let him have to make his grilled cheese sandwiches in jail. How cute. Lou and Jerry deserve each other. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 6859 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 20:59:35 Subject: Willie is such a nice guy, That Willie, he's such a nice guy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tool Time posted Message 6860 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 21:04:48 Subject: Re: Are you mad because Pat does let --- No, Pat is role playing, he thinks he's a radio personality and wants credibily, yet before the deadline or other candidates had even entered the race, he came out and endorsed Manzo. Now he thinks he deserved the consideration of a media source who can call out for a debate. He has lost any credibility he ever had! He is a Manzo Tool ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 6861 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 22:05:24 Subject: Re: Willie is such a nice guy, :::Where are you baby! The nights are getting cold and the beer warm. I reordered your little blue pills. : That Willie, he's such a nice guy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Horses Head? posted Message 6862 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 22:35:01 Subject: Re: RON where is the Vito Corleone wants to know : ALSO ELECT FUNDS ARE FROZEN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now We like Some Gay People posted Message 6863 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 22:39:19 Subject: Homophobes for Healy After the revelations that there are so many of our own supporters who are gay, we have decided to change our policy of 'no homo's vote counts', and to now count the votes of the following homos, but only these homo's, all others can vote for Manzo: The lineup Tom DeGise Bill Gaughan Tony Amible Maurice Fitzgibbons Sal Vega that's it! : So is DeGise and Gaughan. ***************** End Of Article ****************** For Tom DeGise? posted Message 6864 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2004 at 22:43:12 Subject: Can you add some more space ? lets get ready for the downfall of Tom DeGise, this guy is beyond contempt and he is reckless. What are you waiting for Chris Christy? : : CAN'T THE AUTHORITIES STEP IN AND STOP THIS? IN KANSAS A POLITICAL THAT HAD THEIR RELATIVES ON THE PAYROLL WOULD BE DRIVEN OUT OF TOWN IN DISGRACE. DOESN'T THIS GUY GEGISE HAVE ANY SHAME? IS HE A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN? WHEN IS HE RUNNING AGAIN? I'LL MAKE SURE NOT TO VOTE FOR HIM! ITS AMAZING! I'AM GOING TO SEND THIS POST TO MY RELATIVES IN KANSAS. : Things get curiouser and curiouser. Just the other day I ran into a regular from the Howard Stern show -- Drunken Jamie -- campaigning for Healy, DeGise's candidate for Mayor of Jersey City. : See the Link for articles on some shenanigans from the last few years. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Smiths pecker problem posted Message 6865 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 00:19:54 Subject: L Harvey Smith Words out since Smith became " Mayor" he's having a hard (lmao) time keepin the ol' pecker in his pants at the office. Heard two people filed complaints at the HCPO.... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Snitch posted Message 6866 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 01:06:53 Subject: Manzo team caught Louie, better train that team of yours better... Why was there a bunch of torn down Healy signs laying in a pile inside the back of your club in the Heights. That Team of yours is getting sloppy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor my Eyes posted Message 6867 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 01:24:38 Subject: J Dolan...poster boy for Ridilin No go home J...and take youur meds before the nice men in white jackets come and tie you up again. : That Willie, he's such a nice guy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BabyHuey posted Message 6868 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 06:37:58 Subject: Re: Manzo team caught laughing : Jerry better train those computer goons of yours better... : Why would they post there are a bunch of your signs in the back of a club you cant clearly see in the back of? : That Team Healy is getting sloppy and pathetically desparate. : Get a life and go bother someone else. A guy with the name of Al Pine sounds like a good start. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6869 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 07:18:43 Subject: Re: Can you add some more space ? Don't worry. There's always room for one more! : lets get ready for the downfall of Tom DeGise, this guy is beyond contempt and he is reckless. : What are you waiting for Chris Christy? : : : CAN'T THE AUTHORITIES STEP IN AND STOP THIS? IN KANSAS A POLITICAL THAT HAD THEIR RELATIVES ON THE PAYROLL WOULD BE DRIVEN OUT OF TOWN IN DISGRACE. DOESN'T THIS GUY GEGISE HAVE ANY SHAME? IS HE A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN? WHEN IS HE RUNNING AGAIN? I'LL MAKE SURE NOT TO VOTE FOR HIM! ITS AMAZING! I'AM GOING TO SEND THIS POST TO MY RELATIVES IN KANSAS. : : Things get curiouser and curiouser. Just the other day I ran into a regular from the Howard Stern show -- Drunken Jamie -- campaigning for Healy, DeGise's candidate for Mayor of Jersey City. : : See the Link for articles on some shenanigans from the last few years. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 6870 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 07:32:24 Subject: Inside County Lines: September 17, 2004 - September 23, 2004 Urban Times News September 17, 2004 - September 23, 2004 Inside County Lines "You can't make this stuff up!" Earl the Hat just will not stop. His most recent article in the Jersey Journal is attacking another African American. This time it's Oren Dabney's turn. He can't believe that Dabney demands a contract. How should he work? Should he go day to day with no protection just because he is African American? Earl the Ugly Duckling can't get over his days as a Jersey City police informant on the Black Panther Party. Who is next, Willie Flood? But she's a woman you say? That never stopped the Hat. Acting Mayor Harvey Smith has his family working overtime for this election. His wife was at a block association meeting in the Lafayette section of Jersey City, heckling Willie Flood on Monday night, and his son was at the Hudson County Clerk Office on Tuesday to watch Willie Flood file her petitions for the mayor race. I guess it's all in the family. I want to set the record straight about all the lies Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith has been telling about his meeting with Willie Flood last Saturday. Smith did have the meeting, but the only persons who met were Smith and Flood, nobody else. Smith said that Flood asked for all the developers in the city. Nothing could be further from the truth. What Smith should do is check on his Deputy Mayor Ed Cheatum who has told developers that they must work with his team of developers from Hoboken. The US Attorney would like to know how Cheatum could have a business interest in these deals and still be on the payroll. Actor Mayor Smith has sent word to his Senior Citizen Director not to allow Willie Flood into any Senior Citizen complexes. This bunch of morons must know this is America, not Havana Cuba. Lou Manzo has brought charges upon Ron Bounocore over, where he lives, and that he has not distinguished himself in Jersey City long enough to run for mayor. Manzo should know. Bounocore was one of his chief advisors and fundraisers when Manzo ran against the late Glenn Cunningham. During that time, he made a deal for Bounocore to become Public Works Director. Seems like a long time ago now. When Willie Flood filed her petitions for Mayor on Tuesday, Jerry Healy was next in line to file. Healy brought everybody in county government with him, at least 12 - 13 people. I must say Bill Gaughan did look sober, but they reminded me of the White Citizens Council in 1940 Mississippi. It is rumored that Gerry McCann has an account at Siperstein's Paints with a note to close his account on November 3rd. The Ward F Hudson County Democratic Organization office has been closed. The Democratic Organization does not plan to campaign in the ward since their champion L. Harvey Smith decided to run for mayor himself and they can't support him. Poor Smith is left with city workers and no organization. Next week we'll examine why acting Mayor L. Harvey has the nickname Uncle Harvey. The Jersey City Employment Training board had a meeting that no one attended. Could it be that the rumors of the U.S. Attorney's office looking into its operation could have frightened a few of Acting Mayor Harvey Smith's appointees? Roger Jones, Donald Brown, and Ed Cheatum may have something in their backgrounds that the U.S. Attorney could find very interesting. Stay tuned. Gerry McCann is telling business people that say they support Lou Manzo not to worry about anything. Manzo will be in Trenton and he will be running the city again. That statement is sending cold chills up developers' backs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Power Money Hungry posted Message 6871 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 08:11:39 Subject: Now that Buonocore is gone, Menendez must be next Time to finally clean house in Jersey City & Hudson County. Make them earn way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here's why not! posted Message 6872 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 08:39:02 Subject: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #12 of 100 Lou Manzo was a tool in Glenn Cunningham's brawl with every public official in Hudson County. We need a leader who can work with the mayors of our neighboring towns as well as the county, state, and federal officials. Jersey City can't afford someone locked up in a bunker in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** don't vote for looney lou posted Message 6873 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 08:46:55 Subject: Still the same McCann When he was running against Cucci it became more and more obvious that the voters were about to flush him down the drain so Gerry McCann got together a crew of police and inspectors to go over to Cucci's club and give hime a hard time. McCann stood there smiling surrounded by police. Anthony Cucci short as he was showed that he still had the stuff of a war hero. He walked up to McCann right then and there and punched him in the face knockin McCann backwards. Tony stood there laughing while McCann started to scream and holler like a nut. McCanns own boys dragged him off into a car and took him away. To add to what a low life stunt this was on McCanns part McCann years before was homeless and Cucci used to let him sleep upstairs over this same club. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Take Back JC posted Message 6874 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 09:26:31 Subject: Vote for Manzo -- Reason #12 of 100 Lou Manzo was an ally of Mayor Glenn Cunningham. He will continue to fight for JC residents to regain control of JC from the clutches of the corrupt Menendez-DeGise cabal. : Lou Manzo was a tool in Glenn Cunningham's brawl with every public official in Hudson County. : We need a leader who can work with the mayors of our neighboring towns as well as the county, state, and federal officials. : Jersey City can't afford someone locked up in a bunker in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Did you Flunk English ? posted Message 6875 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 09:30:37 Subject: Hey Snitch? Its sad, the Healy people can't even put a coherent sentence together. Da ha! Da ha! I DON't Manzo man is BADDDD! : : Jerry better train those computer goons of yours better... : : Why would they post there are a bunch of your signs in the back of a club you cant clearly see in the back of? : : That Team Healy is getting sloppy and pathetically desparate. : : Get a life and go bother someone else. A guy with the name of Al Pine sounds like a good start. : ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6876 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 09:47:28 Subject: Jersey Journal -- HUDSON: BUSH COUNTRY? HUDSON: BUSH COUNTRY? Prez pulls slightly ahead of Kerry in Dem stronghold Saturday, October 02, 2004 By Sarah N. Lynch Journal staff writer In what pollsters called a "stunning turn of events," President George W. Bush and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., are locked in a virtual dead heat in the Democratic stronghold of Hudson County, according to a recent poll conducted by New Jersey City University for The Jersey Journal. The poll, conducted Sunday among 215 registered voters in Hudson County, found that 37.7 percent said they will vote for Bush and 34.9 percent said they plan to vote for Kerry, the Democratic nominee. The poll has a margin of error of 4.5 percentage points. . . . "It doesn't surprise me because the Hudson County people have been suffering with all the corruption and the mismanagement of the Democratic Party," said Hudson County Republican Chairman José Arango. "And also . we've suffered very much because of 9/11. We saw with our eyes a threat of 9/11." . . . For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6877 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 09:50:01 Subject: Re: Jersey Journal -- HUDSON: BUSH COUNTRY? : HUDSON: BUSH COUNTRY? : Prez pulls slightly ahead of Kerry in Dem stronghold : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : By Sarah N. Lynch : Journal staff writer : In what pollsters called a "stunning turn of events," President George W. Bush and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., are locked in a virtual dead heat in the Democratic stronghold of Hudson County, according to a recent poll conducted by New Jersey City University for The Jersey Journal. : The poll, conducted Sunday among 215 registered voters in Hudson County, found that 37.7 percent said they will vote for Bush and 34.9 percent said they plan to vote for Kerry, the Democratic nominee. The poll has a margin of error of 4.5 percentage points. : . . . : "It doesn't surprise me because the Hudson County people have been suffering with all the corruption and the mismanagement of the Democratic Party," said Hudson County Republican Chairman José Arango. "And also . we've suffered very much because of 9/11. We saw with our eyes a threat of 9/11." : . . . : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. Jose Arango knows how to read the writing on the wall. The Hudson County Democrats for Bush is the first tremor of an EARTHQUAKE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6878 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 09:53:07 Subject: Buonocore campaign funds NOT frozen! "But the judge denied a request to prevent Buonocore from using any of the money he raised during his campaign to support another candidate in the race." ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6879 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 09:57:11 Subject: Jersey Journal: Hudson Republicans endorse Democrat locally, Bush nationally Hudson Republicans endorse Democrat locally, Bush nationally Saturday, October 02, 2004 By Ronald Leir Journal staff writer The Hudson County Republican Party has formed a group called Democrats for Bush, even though it is endorsing a Democrat in a local race, drawing the ire of some Bayonne Republicans. The county GOP has given its endorsement to state Sen. Joseph V. Doria Jr., who was selected by the Democratic committee members of the 31st District - which includes all of Bayonne and portions of Jersey City - to run for the remainder of the late Glenn D. Cunningham's Senate term. . . . Last week, Arango stood with a group of 12 Democrats at Lincoln Park in Jersey City to announce a new alliance: Democrats for Bush. "The Democratic Party has gone too far to the left to promote what France, Germany and Russia want," Arango said. "The people here have fought in different wars and represented their country in different ways and they understand why we have to go and fight the enemies of the United States where they are." The new group includes former political figures, veterans and union members, many of whom said they are supporting the president because of his handling of the war on terror. "I believe that since Sept. 11, George W. Bush has led our country in the right way," said John Guarini, chairman of the Jersey City 9/11 Committee. "Our future is in good hands with George W. Bush." . . . For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6880 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 10:02:56 Subject: Jersey Journal: Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate Saturday, October 02, 2004 By Bonnie Friedman Journal staff writer Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. . . . The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. . . . Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. --- For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frozen? posted Message 6881 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 10:37:13 Subject: But is the Horses Head -- What about the horses head Ron was talking about giving away to one of the reporters covering his trial. When Will 'Ron the Con' stop? : "But the judge denied a request to prevent Buonocore from using any of the money he raised during his campaign to support another candidate in the race." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Was Jerry's Speech Slurred? posted Message 6882 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 10:40:52 Subject: Did Jerry Healy Show Up Sober? Did Jerry Healy state what his platform was all about? : Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : By Bonnie Friedman : Journal staff writer : Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. : Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. : . . . : The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. : "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" : With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. : . . . : Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. : Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. : Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. : --- : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don't Call Yourselves Democrats posted Message 6883 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 11:04:38 Subject: Democrats for Bush - Judas What a freak'in joke! I'am reporting Jose Arrango to the National Republican Party. This is an outrage! We need Republican leadership who will get people to join the republican PArty and to endorse Repbulican candidates. Democrats for Bush? Change yor party, please! : Hudson Republicans endorse Democrat locally, Bush nationally : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : By Ronald Leir : Journal staff writer : The Hudson County Republican Party has formed a group called Democrats for Bush, even though it is endorsing a Democrat in a local race, drawing the ire of some Bayonne Republicans. : The county GOP has given its endorsement to state Sen. Joseph V. Doria Jr., who was selected by the Democratic committee members of the 31st District - which includes all of Bayonne and portions of Jersey City - to run for the remainder of the late Glenn D. Cunningham's Senate term. : . . . : Last week, Arango stood with a group of 12 Democrats at Lincoln Park in Jersey City to announce a new alliance: Democrats for Bush. : "The Democratic Party has gone too far to the left to promote what France, Germany and Russia want," Arango said. "The people here have fought in different wars and represented their country in different ways and they understand why we have to go and fight the enemies of the United States where they are." : The new group includes former political figures, veterans and union members, many of whom said they are supporting the president because of his handling of the war on terror. : "I believe that since Sept. 11, George W. Bush has led our country in the right way," said John Guarini, chairman of the Jersey City 9/11 Committee. "Our future is in good hands with George W. Bush." : . . . : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez - DeGise Machine posted Message 6884 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 11:08:37 Subject: Testament to the Corrupt I hope John Kerry is elected president. However, if Bush wins Hudson County the only thing good about that will be to build upon that 'defeat' to push hard to eject the current HCDO leadership. If a Bush victory isn't a repudiation of the current HCDO leadership, nothing is. : : HUDSON: BUSH COUNTRY? : : Prez pulls slightly ahead of Kerry in Dem stronghold : : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : : By Sarah N. Lynch : : Journal staff writer : : In what pollsters called a "stunning turn of events," President George W. Bush and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., are locked in a virtual dead heat in the Democratic stronghold of Hudson County, according to a recent poll conducted by New Jersey City University for The Jersey Journal. : : The poll, conducted Sunday among 215 registered voters in Hudson County, found that 37.7 percent said they will vote for Bush and 34.9 percent said they plan to vote for Kerry, the Democratic nominee. The poll has a margin of error of 4.5 percentage points. : : . . . : : "It doesn't surprise me because the Hudson County people have been suffering with all the corruption and the mismanagement of the Democratic Party," said Hudson County Republican Chairman José Arango. "And also . we've suffered very much because of 9/11. We saw with our eyes a threat of 9/11." : : . . . : : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. : Jose Arango knows how to read the writing on the wall. The Hudson County Democrats for Bush is the first tremor of an EARTHQUAKE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** In the Federal Prison posted Message 6885 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 11:12:00 Subject: Re: Can you add some more space ? For DeGise and his crew. : Don't worry. There's always room for one more! : : lets get ready for the downfall of Tom DeGise, this guy is beyond contempt and he is reckless. : : What are you waiting for Chris Christy? : : : : CAN'T THE AUTHORITIES STEP IN AND STOP THIS? IN KANSAS A POLITICAL THAT HAD THEIR RELATIVES ON THE PAYROLL WOULD BE DRIVEN OUT OF TOWN IN DISGRACE. DOESN'T THIS GUY GEGISE HAVE ANY SHAME? IS HE A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN? WHEN IS HE RUNNING AGAIN? I'LL MAKE SURE NOT TO VOTE FOR HIM! ITS AMAZING! I'AM GOING TO SEND THIS POST TO MY RELATIVES IN KANSAS. : : : Things get curiouser and curiouser. Just the other day I ran into a regular from the Howard Stern show -- Drunken Jamie -- campaigning for Healy, DeGise's candidate for Mayor of Jersey City. : : : See the Link for articles on some shenanigans from the last few years. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Only 88 more reasons to go posted Message 6886 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 11:35:12 Subject: Re: Don't Vote for Manzo -- Reason #12 of 100 :::Lou was not Glenn's tool fool. If you electro shocked that one brain cell you had into gear you would remember that Glenn and Lou were on the outs for awhile then reconciled. :::So you want Team Healy and the HCDO with its goon squads to lead the way? :::Well lets see. Do we move City Hall down the street to PJ Ryans or up the street to the Astor Bar. Decisions, decisions. : Lou Manzo was a tool in Glenn Cunningham's brawl with every public official in Hudson County. : We need a leader who can work with the mayors of our neighboring towns as well as the county, state, and federal officials. : Jersey City can't afford someone locked up in a bunker in the mayor's office. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tell me then..... posted Message 6887 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 11:38:27 Subject: Re: Still the same McCann : was this before or after DICKson married his meal ticket and moved out? ***************** End Of Article ****************** That is to say posted Message 6888 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 11:47:39 Subject: Re: Buonocore campaign funds NOT frozen! :::that the money Buonocore got from his goon squad and from those he coerced is non refundable and will go to the candidate of his choice. A lying bully. That is what he has been his entire career. Good riddance to bad rubbish. : "But the judge denied a request to prevent Buonocore from using any of the money he raised during his campaign to support another candidate in the race." ***************** End Of Article ****************** I think that was said to.... posted Message 6889 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 11:48:49 Subject: Re: But is the Horses Head -- :::Bill "the truck driver" Ayala when he was talking to a reporter. : What about the horses head Ron was talking about giving away to one of the reporters covering his trial. : When Will 'Ron the Con' stop? : : "But the judge denied a request to prevent Buonocore from using any of the money he raised during his campaign to support another candidate in the race." ***************** End Of Article ****************** witness posted Message 6890 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 17:17:29 Subject: Re: Willie Flood : :::Its okay baby. you dont have to pick on no one else. I accept your wearing my bikinis. Now come home I have the beer in the fridge and a bottle of Ripple for you. Leave the Manzo signs in the car. : : I guess when McGreevy allowed same sex marriges Willie married Phil. They are both real nice guys. ::::Jimmy, don't come home without mother's little helper. If she ever gets straight, you're back on the bench and restrained from returning. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mister Ed posted Message 6891 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 17:41:39 Subject: Wilbur !!! Save me from Buonocore !!!! A horse is a horse, of course, of course, And no one can talk to a horse of course That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed. Go right to the source and ask the horse He'll give you the answer that you'll endorse. He's always on a steady course. Talk to Mr. Ed. People yakkity yak a streak and waste your time of day But Mister Ed will never speak unless he has something to say. A horse is a horse, of course, of course, And this one'll talk 'til his voice is hoarse. You never heard of a talking horse? Well listen to this. I am Mister Ed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6892 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 17:46:47 Subject: I don't trust the NJCU poll. They've often been wrong before. I guess they polled a bunch of idiot Reagan Democrats. Or the families of Arango and Olszewski. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Commenting on the Idiot posted Message 6893 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 17:48:38 Subject: Re: Did Jerry Healy Show Up Sober? If you have such concerns about the debate, and the sobriety of the candidates, you should have gotten your fat a-ss off your bar stool and gone to the Lowes and watched it. But then again...that would have meant making an effort...and we know Manzo's people are lazy ... just like their candidate. : Did Jerry Healy state what his platform was all about? : : : Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate : : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : : By Bonnie Friedman : : Journal staff writer : : Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. : : Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. : : . . . : : The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. : : "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" : : With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. : : . . . : : Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. : : Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. : : Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. : : --- : : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6894 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 17:55:55 Subject: Maybe it was the Kerry-Healy signs! It just might be that people'll be hanging onto those signs for generations -- to nail onto the houses of enemies to put a jinx on 'em! ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's right posted Message 6895 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 18:08:04 Subject: Re: Did Jerry Healy Show Up Sober? ::::do what you Team Healy mindless wonders do best. When you have nothing to say or when you poor babies get picked on or when your script writers fail to provide you with new material, resort to personal attacks. You call Manzo gay, his people are $cumbags, thieves and an assortment of other words, Willie Flood who is a real lady is referred to as a man. But you wonderful people with your assortment of drunken, mean spirited, homophobic, racist, lying, dirty-necked green-toothed and toothless gang of thugs keep up with your trite tirades if it makes you feel like big men. CAUSE YOU ARE ALL LOSERS! : If you have such concerns about the debate, and the sobriety of the candidates, you should have gotten your fat a-ss off your bar stool and gone to the Lowes and watched it. But then again...that would have meant making an effort...and we know Manzo's people are lazy ... just like their candidate. : : Did Jerry Healy state what his platform was all about? : : : : : Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate : : : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : : : By Bonnie Friedman : : : Journal staff writer : : : Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. : : : Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. : : : . . . : : : The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. : : : "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" : : : With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. : : : . . . : : : Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. : : : Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. : : : Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : : Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. : : : --- : : : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's right..... posted Message 6896 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 18:55:39 Subject: Re: I don't trust the NJCU poll. :::When we got nothing to say, we resort to personal attacks. : They've often been wrong before. : I guess they polled a bunch of idiot Reagan Democrats. Or the families of Arango and Olszewski. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry Bowled Me Over! posted Message 6897 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 19:12:57 Subject: I'am not for Manzo but .... I had the opportunity, or should I say misfortune of meeting Jerry and his entourage campaigning. Although the sun had already set, I was taken aback by Jerry's breath. Wheww! Can't his campaign manager some mints? I don;t know who I'am going to vote for. Kind of leaning towards Mayor Smith at this point. : If you have such concerns about the debate, and the sobriety of the candidates, you should have gotten your fat a-ss off your bar stool and gone to the Lowes and watched it. But then again...that would have meant making an effort...and we know Manzo's people are lazy ... just like their candidate. : : Did Jerry Healy state what his platform was all about? : : : : : Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate : : : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : : : By Bonnie Friedman : : : Journal staff writer : : : Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. : : : Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. : : : . . . : : : The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. : : : "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" : : : With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. : : : . . . : : : Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. : : : Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. : : : Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : : Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. : : : --- : : : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Putts From the Rough! posted Message 6898 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 19:17:30 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile is Gay He's got a good coach, Tom DeGise the handicap golfer. Now you know where Taxpayer money is going, Green Fees! : : He will have a coming out party at Nico's Sat Nite at 8:30. : : All are welcome and Chippendales will be there, also Ricahrd Simmons will make a guest apperance. Music by Elton John.Amabile has many contracts throughout the county it's rumored Bill Gaughan will be a consultant for him if Healy wins the campaign. How many contracts can Amabile get & jobs Gaughan can hold. It seems these two guys are very close. Tony Amabile is constantly on his kness in front front Gaughan begging for contrats. I hope Gaughan wears a condom because I heard Amabile has HIV. See you Saturday Nite.... MORE TO FOLLOW ABOUT THI GAY BASTARRD. : : Come visit my website at Politics and Gay Bastards.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Typical HCDO Politician posted Message 6899 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 19:22:30 Subject: County Subsidy to the Home? THe political hacks running the county don't give ANYTHING away without getting something in return. They probably just feel its their right to move to the head of the line. Only the 'little people' have to play by the rules. You would think the Prosecutor can stop these meniacial slobs. l : BLIND GATE IS DEFINED AS 'PEOPLE WHO HAVE POLITICAL INFLUENCE TO GAIN A SPECIAL EXEMPTION FOR FAMILY MEMBERS TO GAIN A HOSPITAL BED AT ST. JOSEPH HOME FOR THE BLIND. THERE IS A SYSTEM OF POLITICAL INFLUENCE EXERTED BY THE DEGISE ADMINISTRATION THAT BREAKS THE RULES ALLOWING RELATIVES TO JUMP TO THE TOP OF THE WAITING LIST. : SPECIAL EDITION OF BLIND GATE II TO BE PUBLISHED THIS SUNDAY. : STAY TUNED FOR MORE CHILLING DETAILS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ask Trenton posted Message 6900 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 19:27:21 Subject: Let's Get the Payroll Records You can put a request into Trenton, Open Public Records to get a look of who is on the payroll. Wouldn;t that be interesting. I wonder how many dead people are still getting paid by the county. Let's do a search by DeGise and see how many payroll records pop up. : SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? : YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. : LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF : YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). : YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? : HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? : CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? : TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? : WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cheap! posted Message 6901 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 19:31:02 Subject: Basement Apartment for Rent one room basement apartment on Columbia Ave, available immediately, furnished (2 bar stools), monthly rent is optional, utilities also optional. I can even pickup your mail at the post office. Free chauffer service to and from work. Call JCPD for more details. : A horse is a horse, of course, of course, : And no one can talk to a horse of course : That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed. : Go right to the source and ask the horse : He'll give you the answer that you'll endorse. : He's always on a steady course. : Talk to Mr. Ed. : People yakkity yak a streak and waste your time of day : But Mister Ed will never speak unless he has something to say. : A horse is a horse, of course, of course, : And this one'll talk 'til his voice is hoarse. : You never heard of a talking horse? : Well listen to this. I am Mister Ed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** low rent posted Message 6902 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 19:49:59 Subject: Re: Basement Apartment for Rent : one room basement apartment on Columbia Ave, available immediately, furnished (2 bar stools), monthly rent is optional, utilities also optional. I can even pickup your mail at the post office. : Free chauffer service to and from work. ::::::::/save the apartment for Dixon. He'll need a place to stay soon and after DUI he needs a chauffer : Call JCPD for more details. : : A horse is a horse, of course, of course, : : And no one can talk to a horse of course : : That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed. : : Go right to the source and ask the horse : : He'll give you the answer that you'll endorse. : : He's always on a steady course. : : Talk to Mr. Ed. : : People yakkity yak a streak and waste your time of day : : But Mister Ed will never speak unless he has something to say. : : A horse is a horse, of course, of course, : : And this one'll talk 'til his voice is hoarse. : : You never heard of a talking horse? : : Well listen to this. I am Mister Ed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** cash poor posted Message 6903 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 20:00:18 Subject: Re: Let's Get the Payroll Records : You can put a request into Trenton, Open Public Records to get a look of who is on the payroll. Wouldn;t that be interesting. I wonder how many dead people are still getting paid by the county. Let's do a search by DeGise and see how many payroll records pop up. ;;;;;De Gise? Are you kidding. The entire Gaughan family is on the payroll. If you look close enough, you may see an employee named Hampster Gaughan or Kitty Gaughan. Fido Gaughan or Goldfish Gaughan may be there somewhere. He even has one daughter getting paid and getting health benefits as his "aide" who does absolutely nothing and couldn't be reached by the White House switchboard if they tried. Scary thought. : : SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? : : YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. : : LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF : : YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). : : YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? : : HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? : : CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? : : TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? : : WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Your Going to Need it posted Message 6904 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 20:41:45 Subject: Keep the Money Ron With looming legal bills for possible prosecution for lying about where he lives, plus the fact that if Healy doesn;t get elected, his Police job will not be there, Ron better scrap up as much dough as he can get his hands on. : :::that the money Buonocore got from his goon squad and from those he coerced is non refundable and will go to the candidate of his choice. A lying bully. That is what he has been his entire career. Good riddance to bad rubbish. : : "But the judge denied a request to prevent Buonocore from using any of the money he raised during his campaign to support another candidate in the race." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Homeowner posted Message 6905 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 20:51:59 Subject: DeGise - What's Your Stand on Nepotism So Tom DeGise, Albio passed legislation preventing elected officials from hiring their family members, (result of the John Bennett abuse). Are you for this legislation Tommy? Are you going to fire your sister? Lets have an answer! Get your mouthpiece Kennelly out in front of this. The Jersey Journal will be calling your office on Monday for an answer. Come on Tommy, lets see you explain this one away. : You can put a request into Trenton, Open Public Records to get a look of who is on the payroll. Wouldn;t that be interesting. I wonder how many dead people are still getting paid by the county. Let's do a search by DeGise and see how many payroll records pop up. : ;;;;;De Gise? Are you kidding. The entire Gaughan family is on the payroll. If you look close enough, you may see an employee named Hampster Gaughan or Kitty Gaughan. Fido Gaughan or Goldfish Gaughan may be there somewhere. He even has one daughter getting paid and getting health benefits as his "aide" who does absolutely nothing and couldn't be reached by the White House switchboard if they tried. Scary thought. : : : SO TOMMY BOY, WIPE THE CROCADILE TEARS AWAY LONG ENOUGH TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF HUDSON COUNTY JUST HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY ARE BEING SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS OF HUDSON COUNTY? : : : YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO THROW IN ALL THE MILLIONS YOU ARE GIVING TO YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS WHO GET NO BID CONTRACTS. : : : LETS SEE, OF COURSE THERE'S YOURSELF : : : YOUR SISTER IS IN FOR HOW MUCH? $75,000, AND WHAT EXATLY DOES SHE DO FOR THE COUNTY? (BESIDES MONITORING THIS WEBSITE FOR YOU). : : : YOUR MOTHER IS STAYING AT ST. JOSEPHS HOME. IS HER CARE BEING SUBSIDIZED? : : : HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW? ANY NIECES AND NEWPHEWS YOUR GROOMING TO CASH COUNTY CHECKS? : : : CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! CHA-CHING! DO WE BREAK A MILLION? : : : TOMMY, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH! DO YOU HAVE A LIMIT? : : : WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** If Jerry Will be Part of his administration posted Message 6906 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 21:01:11 Subject: Ask Lou Why doesn;t anyone ask Lou Manzo about Jerry McCann's role in a Manzo administration? Jerry is a hell of a campaigner. Are the Healy team jealous because they don;t have someone who is as good at street-level campaigning? Keep those votes coming Jerry M! Keep those beers flowing Jerry H! : The story of McCann trashing the Mayor's office was when he did the first stage exit after losing the election to Tony Cucci. : The story I heard was that the rugs were soaked in urine. To add insult to injury, a lemon was left in a drawer in the Mayor's desk with a note pinned to it with these parting words of advice: S.UCK ON THIS! : I wasn't there. I have no idea if these stories are true. If the facts are incorrect, then it's a myth that's become part of the fabric of Jersey City life. : : I worked in city hall when McCann was tossed out on his rear. I was in and out of the Mayor's suite moving boxes that week. (Helping Marilyn Roman move in). No one destroyed files or super glued any locks on doors or urin ated on any carpets. That's nothing but rumors. : : McCann left, but his staff stayed on under Mayor Roman. So the rumors you started years ago were garbage then...and are still garbage now. I am no fan of Gerry McCann. But there are a lot of "real" things he did that are enough to feather him with, we don't need to add lies on top of all of it. : : : McCann is the same guy when outgoing Mayor destroyed public files in the Mayor's office then super glued the locks to the mayors office and in a final act of defiance, uri nated on the rugs before he was thrown out on his rear end. : : : And now he's Manzo Campaign confidant and Assembly Chief of Staff. : : : Speaks volumes of McManzo : : : "Burds" of a feather". : : : Jerry McCann - Birdman of Altoona! ***************** End Of Article ****************** So you are saying posted Message 6907 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 02, 2004 at 22:43:31 Subject: Re: I'am not for Manzo but .... :::That you want an ignorant, confrontational, racist who has handed out about $500K in pay increases and patronage hirings since June? : I had the opportunity, or should I say misfortune of meeting Jerry and his entourage campaigning. Although the sun had already set, I was taken aback by Jerry's breath. Wheww! Can't his campaign manager some mints? : I don;t know who I'am going to vote for. Kind of leaning towards Mayor Smith at this point. : : : If you have such concerns about the debate, and the sobriety of the candidates, you should have gotten your fat a-ss off your bar stool and gone to the Lowes and watched it. But then again...that would have meant making an effort...and we know Manzo's people are lazy ... just like their candidate. : : : Did Jerry Healy state what his platform was all about? : : : : : : : Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate : : : : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : : : : By Bonnie Friedman : : : : Journal staff writer : : : : Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. : : : : Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. : : : : . . . : : : : The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. : : : : "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" : : : : With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. : : : : . . . : : : : Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. : : : : Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. : : : : Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : : : Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. : : : : --- : : : : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Will you do laundy and provide meals too posted Message 6908 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 07:46:21 Subject: Re: Basement Apartment for Rent Talk about affordable housing...this is too good to be true!! : one room basement apartment on Columbia Ave, available immediately, furnished (2 bar stools), monthly rent is optional, utilities also optional. I can even pickup your mail at the post office. : Free chauffer service to and from work. : Call JCPD for more details. : : A horse is a horse, of course, of course, : : And no one can talk to a horse of course : : That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed. : : Go right to the source and ask the horse : : He'll give you the answer that you'll endorse. : : He's always on a steady course. : : Talk to Mr. Ed. : : People yakkity yak a streak and waste your time of day : : But Mister Ed will never speak unless he has something to say. : : A horse is a horse, of course, of course, : : And this one'll talk 'til his voice is hoarse. : : You never heard of a talking horse? : : Well listen to this. I am Mister Ed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're not serious are you posted Message 6909 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 07:48:26 Subject: Re: I'am not for Manzo but .... This man flip flops worse than anyone I have ever seen. He's all over the issues...says whatever he thinks will please the crowd he's addressing. : I had the opportunity, or should I say misfortune of meeting Jerry and his entourage campaigning. Although the sun had already set, I was taken aback by Jerry's breath. Wheww! Can't his campaign manager some mints? : I don;t know who I'am going to vote for. Kind of leaning towards Mayor Smith at this point. : : : If you have such concerns about the debate, and the sobriety of the candidates, you should have gotten your fat a-ss off your bar stool and gone to the Lowes and watched it. But then again...that would have meant making an effort...and we know Manzo's people are lazy ... just like their candidate. : : : Did Jerry Healy state what his platform was all about? : : : : : : : Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate : : : : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : : : : By Bonnie Friedman : : : : Journal staff writer : : : : Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. : : : : Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. : : : : . . . : : : : The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. : : : : "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" : : : : With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. : : : : . . . : : : : Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. : : : : Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. : : : : Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : : : Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. : : : : --- : : : : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6910 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 08:20:52 Subject: Re: Healy flip flops worse than anyone I have ever seen. He's all over the issues...says whatever he thinks will please the crowd he's addressing. Maybe that's why he's got Kerry's name on his signs. After all, birds of a feather flipflop together! : This man flip flops worse than anyone I have ever seen. He's all over the issues...says whatever he thinks will please the crowd he's addressing. : : I had the opportunity, or should I say misfortune of meeting Jerry and his entourage campaigning. Although the sun had already set, I was taken aback by Jerry's breath. Wheww! Can't his campaign manager some mints? : : I don;t know who I'am going to vote for. Kind of leaning towards Mayor Smith at this point. : : : : : If you have such concerns about the debate, and the sobriety of the candidates, you should have gotten your fat a-ss off your bar stool and gone to the Lowes and watched it. But then again...that would have meant making an effort...and we know Manzo's people are lazy ... just like their candidate. : : : : Did Jerry Healy state what his platform was all about? : : : : : : : : : Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate : : : : : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : : : : : By Bonnie Friedman : : : : : Journal staff writer : : : : : Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. : : : : : Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. : : : : : . . . : : : : : The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. : : : : : "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" : : : : : With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. : : : : : . . . : : : : : Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. : : : : : Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. : : : : : Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : : : : Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. : : : : : --- : : : : : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watchin the Manzo Goon Squad posted Message 6911 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 10:19:14 Subject: Tearing Down Signs Why is it that I see no media comments on the fact that Bonocoure signs, Healy signs, Flood signs, Smith signs and some Lipski signs are being torn down (and thrown out behind the Manzo headq2uarters). But Manzo's signs seem to have some kind of "dirt bag" repelant, cause they aren't being torn down. Or is it that the dirt bags are workin for Manzo? Gee...I wonder. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Post not meant for Healy posted Message 6912 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 15:08:10 Subject: Re: Healy flip flops worse than anyone I have ever seen. He's all over the issues...says whatever he thinks will please the crowd he's addressing. Re-read the original post. : Maybe that's why he's got Kerry's name on his signs. After all, birds of a feather flipflop together! : : This man flip flops worse than anyone I have ever seen. He's all over the issues...says whatever he thinks will please the crowd he's addressing. : : : I had the opportunity, or should I say misfortune of meeting Jerry and his entourage campaigning. Although the sun had already set, I was taken aback by Jerry's breath. Wheww! Can't his campaign manager some mints? : : : I don;t know who I'am going to vote for. Kind of leaning towards Mayor Smith at this point. : : : : : : : If you have such concerns about the debate, and the sobriety of the candidates, you should have gotten your fat a-ss off your bar stool and gone to the Lowes and watched it. But then again...that would have meant making an effort...and we know Manzo's people are lazy ... just like their candidate. : : : : : Did Jerry Healy state what his platform was all about? : : : : : : : : : : : Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate : : : : : : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : : : : : : By Bonnie Friedman : : : : : : Journal staff writer : : : : : : Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. : : : : : : Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. : : : : : : . . . : : : : : : The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. : : : : : : "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" : : : : : : With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. : : : : : : . . . : : : : : : Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. : : : : : : Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. : : : : : : Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : : : : : Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. : : : : : : --- : : : : : : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** signup posted Message 6913 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 15:31:33 Subject: Re: Tearing Down Signs : Why is it that I see no media comments on the fact that Bonocoure signs, Healy signs, Flood signs, Smith signs and some Lipski signs are being torn down (and thrown out behind the Manzo headq2uarters). But Manzo's signs seem to have some kind of "dirt bag" repelant, cause they aren't being torn down. Or is it that the dirt bags are workin for Manzo? Gee...I wonder. ;;;;;;No wonder about it. Dixon lost his big wheel. He'll be back. ***************** End Of Article ****************** warlock watcher posted Message 6914 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 15:38:27 Subject: Re: Tearing Down Signs : : Why is it that I see no media comments on the fact that Bonocoure signs, Healy signs, Flood signs, Smith signs and some Lipski signs are being torn down (and thrown out behind the Manzo headq2uarters). But Manzo's signs seem to have some kind of "dirt bag" repelant, cause they aren't being torn down. Or is it that the dirt bags are workin for Manzo? Gee...I wonder. : : ;;;;;;No wonder about it. Dixon lost his big wheel. He'll be back. ;;;;;;;Nah, it's because they didn't teach Dickson the letters that spell Manzo yet. When he learns, he'll strike. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 6915 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 15:40:26 Subject: Yes, I had to re-read it twice, but you're correct. Yes, I had to re-read it twice, but you're correct. The placement of the comment above the name Jerry put me on the wrong track. : Re-read the original post. : : Maybe that's why he's got Kerry's name on his signs. After all, birds of a feather flipflop together! : : : This man flip flops worse than anyone I have ever seen. He's all over the issues...says whatever he thinks will please the crowd he's addressing. : : : : I had the opportunity, or should I say misfortune of meeting Jerry and his entourage campaigning. Although the sun had already set, I was taken aback by Jerry's breath. Wheww! Can't his campaign manager some mints? : : : : I don;t know who I'am going to vote for. Kind of leaning towards Mayor Smith at this point. : : : : : : : : : If you have such concerns about the debate, and the sobriety of the candidates, you should have gotten your fat a-ss off your bar stool and gone to the Lowes and watched it. But then again...that would have meant making an effort...and we know Manzo's people are lazy ... just like their candidate. : : : : : : Did Jerry Healy state what his platform was all about? : : : : : : : : : : : : : Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate : : : : : : : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : : : : : : : By Bonnie Friedman : : : : : : : Journal staff writer : : : : : : : Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. : : : : : : : Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. : : : : : : : . . . : : : : : : : The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. : : : : : : : "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" : : : : : : : With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. : : : : : : : . . . : : : : : : : Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. : : : : : : : Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. : : : : : : : Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : : : : : : Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. : : : : : : : --- : : : : : : : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Piatkowski For Congress posted Message 6916 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 18:23:34 Subject: Kerry Insensitive To Victims of Communism Piatkowski For Congress Republican Candidate For the House of Representatives 13th Congressional District October 3, 2004 For Immediate Release: Contact: Richard Piatkowski 732-277-2400 Kerry Insensitive To Victims of Communism Today Republican Congressional candidate, Richard Piatkowski, condemned John Kerry for insulting the victims of Communist oppression throughout the world. John Kerry invited attorney Gregory Craig to join the Kerry for President campaign staff. Craig, by representing the father of Elian Gonzalez, acted as Fidel Castro’s lawyer. This Washington insider, with the support of the Clinton Administration, gave the tyrant of Cuba, Fidel Castro, access to US courts and US law enforcement. Because of Gregory Craig, Castro enjoyed the benefits of our Nation’s due process while JoAnne Chesimard, convicted in the murder of a New Jersey State Trooper, continues to avoid justice through the protection of Cuban Communism. “Right here in the United States, many, many Cubans, Poles, Ukrainians, Russians, and other Eastern European émigrés, Chinese, Vietnamese, and Cambodians fled the horrors of Communism, said Piatkowski. John Kerry doesn’t care about their suffering and the suffering their loved ones still endure. Is this yet another Kerry-Kennedy link? Should we expect Kerry to follow John Kennedy’s Bay of Pigs example? Should we expect a flip of hard talk followed by a flop of cowardice -- while heroes die and innocents live as slaves?” Candidate Richard Piatkowski urges Congressman Menendez to join him in demanding that John Kerry remove Gregory Craig from the campaign. “Robert Menendez deserves praise for standing at the forefront of the fight against Castro’s enslaving the Cuban People. Menendez needs to tell fellow Democrat Kerry that CRAIG MUST GO!” ***************** End Of Article ****************** signterminater posted Message 6917 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 19:49:08 Subject: Re manzo signs down. manzo signs to come down by the hundreds now that ronnie is out and no one will stop them guess why?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** signterminater posted Message 6918 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 19:54:30 Subject: manzo signs coming down the war has started and manzo started it there will be no moanzo signs standing soon. ronnie is out now green light given gerry watch this week we on our way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uh, because posted Message 6919 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 20:16:04 Subject: Re: Re manzo signs down. Jimmy "the limp" DICKson has sobered up enough to find the keys to the county vehicle he drives with a suspended license? : manzo signs to come down by the hundreds now that ronnie is out : and no one will stop them guess why?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uh posted Message 6920 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 20:22:48 Subject: Re: manzo signs coming down Get your head out of your A$$. Manzo started NOTHING. Jimmy "the limp" DICKson started it the first day Manzo signs went up. Followed them down the block laughing as he ripped them down and put the signs in the county vehicle he drives on a suspended license. Oh, Manzo shaking over a bully who had the brass to call himself an enforcer of the law. Ha-ha. : the war has started and manzo started it there will be no moanzo signs standing soon. ronnie is out now green light given : gerry watch this week we on our way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6921 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 20:59:13 Subject: Give me a break !!! This guy Piatkowski must really be on drugs. Rehashing the Elian Gonzalez case ? Little Elian is where he belongs, with his father. And Mr. Craig is a well respected and influential lawyer in Washington circles. Not an insignificant pimple on the body poilitic like Piatkowski. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6922 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 21:05:00 Subject: Stop the Ugly Teardrop !!! Not only are the Ugly Teardrop supporters running print ads, they have now bought time for TV ads as well. This Russian fellow's concept is a horror and should never foul the beautiful view on the Owen Grundy Pier. It's bad enough that we have that horrid Katyn Memorial down at Exchange Place. I hope the City Council does the right thing and stops the Ugly Teardrop !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Against Polish People posted Message 6923 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 21:29:08 Subject: You Have Something The Katyn Memorial is in rememberance to the Polish soldiers who were taken captive by Germans and then slaughtered. Do you have a problem with memorializing those soldiers? Soldiers who were fighting with our troops against the Third Reich in WW II? : Not only are the Ugly Teardrop supporters running print ads, they have now bought time for TV ads as well. : This Russian fellow's concept is a horror and should never foul the beautiful view on the Owen Grundy Pier. : It's bad enough that we have that horrid Katyn Memorial down at Exchange Place. I hope the City Council does the right thing and stops the Ugly Teardrop !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Captain Healy posted Message 6924 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 21:30:32 Subject: Here Come the Marines! : the war has started and manzo started it there will be no moanzo signs standing soon. ronnie is out now green light given : gerry watch this week we on our way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Too Soon posted Message 6925 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 21:37:33 Subject: Give the Guy a Chance Mayor SMith has only been in office a few months. Let's see what he does in the next few months. There a mayoral election in May 05. Then we can decide. : :::That you want an ignorant, confrontational, racist who has handed out about $500K in pay increases and patronage hirings since June? : : I had the opportunity, or should I say misfortune of meeting Jerry and his entourage campaigning. Although the sun had already set, I was taken aback by Jerry's breath. Wheww! Can't his campaign manager some mints? : : I don;t know who I'am going to vote for. Kind of leaning towards Mayor Smith at this point. : : : : : If you have such concerns about the debate, and the sobriety of the candidates, you should have gotten your fat a-ss off your bar stool and gone to the Lowes and watched it. But then again...that would have meant making an effort...and we know Manzo's people are lazy ... just like their candidate. : : : : Did Jerry Healy state what his platform was all about? : : : : : : : : : Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate : : : : : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : : : : : By Bonnie Friedman : : : : : Journal staff writer : : : : : Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. : : : : : Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. : : : : : . . . : : : : : The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. : : : : : "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" : : : : : With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. : : : : : . . . : : : : : Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. : : : : : Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. : : : : : Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : : : : Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. : : : : : --- : : : : : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Super Glue posted Message 6926 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 21:39:49 Subject: Manzo Workers Are using THUMB TACKS ARE NOT GOING TO CUT IT IN THIS ELECTION. : Why is it that I see no media comments on the fact that Bonocoure signs, Healy signs, Flood signs, Smith signs and some Lipski signs are being torn down (and thrown out behind the Manzo headq2uarters). But Manzo's signs seem to have some kind of "dirt bag" repelant, cause they aren't being torn down. Or is it that the dirt bags are workin for Manzo? Gee...I wonder. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TO JAIL? posted Message 6927 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 21:42:14 Subject: bECAUSE RON THE CON IS GOING OH MY! JC WILL NOT BE SAFE WITHOUT RONNIE TO PROTECT US. I'AM GOING TO HIDE IN MY BASMENT APARTMENT. : Jimmy "the limp" DICKson has sobered up enough to find the keys to the county vehicle he drives with a suspended license? : : manzo signs to come down by the hundreds now that ronnie is out : : and no one will stop them guess why?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** gIVE JERRY A BREAK! AFTER DRINKING ALL DAY YOU LOSE TRACK posted Message 6928 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 21:45:39 Subject: Re: Healy flip flops WHEN YOU CONSUME AS MUCH ALCOHOL AS JERIMIAH, IT BECOMES DIFFICULT TO REMEMBER ONE SENTENCE TO THE NEXT. JERRY'S LINE IS; 'IF IT SOUNDS GOOD SAY IT! IF IT TASTES GOOD, DRINK IT! : Maybe that's why he's got Kerry's name on his signs. After all, birds of a feather flipflop together! : : This man flip flops worse than anyone I have ever seen. He's all over the issues...says whatever he thinks will please the crowd he's addressing. : : : I had the opportunity, or should I say misfortune of meeting Jerry and his entourage campaigning. Although the sun had already set, I was taken aback by Jerry's breath. Wheww! Can't his campaign manager some mints? : : : I don;t know who I'am going to vote for. Kind of leaning towards Mayor Smith at this point. : : : : : : : If you have such concerns about the debate, and the sobriety of the candidates, you should have gotten your fat a-ss off your bar stool and gone to the Lowes and watched it. But then again...that would have meant making an effort...and we know Manzo's people are lazy ... just like their candidate. : : : : : Did Jerry Healy state what his platform was all about? : : : : : : : : : : : Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate : : : : : : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : : : : : : By Bonnie Friedman : : : : : : Journal staff writer : : : : : : Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. : : : : : : Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. : : : : : : . . . : : : : : : The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. : : : : : : "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" : : : : : : With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. : : : : : : . . . : : : : : : Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. : : : : : : Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. : : : : : : Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : : : : : Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. : : : : : : --- : : : : : : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HOW DARE YOU! posted Message 6929 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 23:03:28 Subject: Re: Here Come the Marines! ::::IN YOUR PALE, LITTLE FIGHT, EVEN IN JEST YOU DARE EVEN EVOKE THE NAME OF THE MARINES! DRUNKS, WIMPS, GREEDY, CONNIVING, SCHEMEING LOWLIFES! : : the war has started and manzo started it there will be no moanzo signs standing soon. ronnie is out now green light given : : gerry watch this week we on our way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watch Out for An Old McCann Trick posted Message 6930 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 23:03:32 Subject: Attaching opponents signs to cars ... with Super Glue Watch out plays out of the old McCann game book. : THUMB TACKS ARE NOT GOING TO CUT IT IN THIS ELECTION. : : : Why is it that I see no media comments on the fact that Bonocoure signs, Healy signs, Flood signs, Smith signs and some Lipski signs are being torn down (and thrown out behind the Manzo headq2uarters). But Manzo's signs seem to have some kind of "dirt bag" repelant, cause they aren't being torn down. Or is it that the dirt bags are workin for Manzo? Gee...I wonder. ***************** End Of Article ****************** More McManzo Double Talk posted Message 6931 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 23:14:03 Subject: Re: Here Come the Marines! NO issues. NO ideas. NO endorsements. Convicted criminals, who spent time behind bars, working the campaign. Yet all Manzo's people can do is take shots at their opponent for using the phrase "Here come the Marines". What a lost campaign. You people trying to corner the political market on patriotism takes the cake. Go crawl back under your rock. It was probably Manzo's people that posted under Captain Healy in the first place. : ::::IN YOUR PALE, LITTLE FIGHT, EVEN IN JEST YOU DARE EVEN EVOKE THE NAME OF THE MARINES! DRUNKS, WIMPS, GREEDY, CONNIVING, SCHEMEING LOWLIFES! : : : the war has started and manzo started it there will be no moanzo signs standing soon. ronnie is out now green light given : : : gerry watch this week we on our way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6932 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 23:17:01 Subject: I have something against bad art. I don't have anything against Polish folks. But this isn't Poland. That memorial is like something you'd see in Russia or Eastern Europe. It's totally out of place where it is. Put it in some park somewhere. But not in the middle of a modern business district .. where no one ever heard of Katyn or could care less. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 6933 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 23:22:04 Subject: The State and National GOP .. don't give a rat's a$$ about Hudson County and Jersey City. See how the State GOP has adopted an Anybody But Schundler stance ? Let Arango blather on with his Democrats for Bush. The Bergen Record is now showing Kerry's lead growing to 8% after the debate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** PEOPLE WHO DIED FOR YOUR FREEDOM? posted Message 6934 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 23:34:03 Subject: YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU ARE ONE LOW-CLASS LUMP OF SH_T. WE SHOULD PUT THE MEMORIAL WHERE NO ONE COULD SEE IT. ITS WHERE IT IS BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON;T KNOW ABOUT IT. LIKE YOU. : I don't have anything against Polish folks. But this isn't Poland. : That memorial is like something you'd see in Russia or Eastern Europe. It's totally out of place where it is. : Put it in some park somewhere. But not in the middle of a modern business district .. where no one ever heard of Katyn or could care less. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I MEAN THE KEYSTONE COPS posted Message 6935 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 23:37:31 Subject: NOTHING AGAINST THE MARINES -SORRY! BAD CHOICE OF WORDS. HEALY AND THE MARINES DON'T GO TOGETER. THEIR FEEBLE THREATH TO TEAR DOWN SIGNS, IS A SIGN OF OUT-OF-CONTROL DESPARATION OF A SINKING CAMPAIGN. : ::::IN YOUR PALE, LITTLE FIGHT, EVEN IN JEST YOU DARE EVEN EVOKE THE NAME OF THE MARINES! DRUNKS, WIMPS, GREEDY, CONNIVING, SCHEMEING LOWLIFES! : : : the war has started and manzo started it there will be no moanzo signs standing soon. ronnie is out now green light given : : : gerry watch this week we on our way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WHAT ARE HIS ISSUES AND IDEAS? posted Message 6936 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 23:41:23 Subject: HERE COMES JERRY GOT ANYTHING FROM THE HEALY CAMPAIGN THAT EVEN VAGUELY RESEMBLES SOMETHING OF A PLATFORM THAT HE IS RUNNING FOR? ANYTHING AT ALL?/ SOMETHING? JUST ONE THING? I'LL BE WAITING. : NO issues. NO ideas. NO endorsements. Convicted criminals, who spent time behind bars, working the campaign. Yet all Manzo's people can do is take shots at their opponent for using the phrase "Here come the Marines". What a lost campaign. You people trying to corner the political market on patriotism takes the cake. Go crawl back under your rock. It was probably Manzo's people that posted under Captain Healy in the first place. : : ::::IN YOUR PALE, LITTLE FIGHT, EVEN IN JEST YOU DARE EVEN EVOKE THE NAME OF THE MARINES! DRUNKS, WIMPS, GREEDY, CONNIVING, SCHEMEING LOWLIFES! : : : : the war has started and manzo started it there will be no moanzo signs standing soon. ronnie is out now green light given : : : : gerry watch this week we on our way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MECANN KNOWS HOW TO CAMPAIGN posted Message 6937 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 23:44:21 Subject: yOU GO TO ADMIT AM I SENSING A LITTLE JEALOUSY OF JERRY MCCANN FROM THE HEALY FOLK? OH WEE! HERE COMES MCCANN'S BATMOBILE! : Watch out plays out of the old McCann game book. : : THUMB TACKS ARE NOT GOING TO CUT IT IN THIS ELECTION. : : : : : Why is it that I see no media comments on the fact that Bonocoure signs, Healy signs, Flood signs, Smith signs and some Lipski signs are being torn down (and thrown out behind the Manzo headq2uarters). But Manzo's signs seem to have some kind of "dirt bag" repelant, cause they aren't being torn down. Or is it that the dirt bags are workin for Manzo? Gee...I wonder. ***************** End Of Article ****************** AND HAVE A BARBEQUE posted Message 6938 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 23:47:35 Subject: Re: Tearing Down Signs YEAH! THE MANZO PEOPLE ARE TAKING THOSE SIGNS AND MAKING A BIG FIRE IN THEIR BACKYARD AND ROASTING ALL OF THOSE HEALY WEENIES! PASS THE MUSTARD PLEASE. : : : Why is it that I see no media comments on the fact that Bonocoure signs, Healy signs, Flood signs, Smith signs and some Lipski signs are being torn down (and thrown out behind the Manzo headq2uarters). But Manzo's signs seem to have some kind of "dirt bag" repelant, cause they aren't being torn down. Or is it that the dirt bags are workin for Manzo? Gee...I wonder. : : : : ;;;;;;No wonder about it. Dixon lost his big wheel. He'll be back. : : ;;;;;;;Nah, it's because they didn't teach Dickson the letters that spell Manzo yet. When he learns, he'll strike. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THEY ARE IDIOTS posted Message 6939 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2004 at 23:51:03 Subject: Re: The State and National GOP .. JUST THINK, IF THEY SUPPORTED SCHUNDLER MAYBE MEGREEVEY WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN ELECTED AND WE WOULDN;T BE IN THIS GAY THING. JOSE GETS PAID BY THE HCDO. VL: don't give a rat's a$$ about Hudson County and Jersey City. See how the State GOP has adopted an Anybody But Schundler stance ? : Let Arango blather on with his Democrats for Bush. The Bergen Record is now showing Kerry's lead growing to 8% after the debate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Friends of the Monument posted Message 6940 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 01:32:34 Subject: "To The Struggle Against World Terrorism" Well, at least you have admitted that this monument has support, unlike many who claim no one wants it. Fact of the matter is Mr. Tsereteli is a world class artist and his work is beautiful. He will make J. Owen Grundy Pier something that it is not now, useful. Right now the pier is run down, dirty, and in need of repair. It will take millions of dollars that the city doesn't have to repair the pier. It is something that is better than a tax abatement because it is going to put work into a pier that Jersey City owns. People said the Statue of Liberty, the Twin Towers, and the memorial for Princess Diana were ugly and would never have support. All of those things reached greatness. "To the Struggle Against World Terrorism" will rise from J. Owen Grundy Pier to greatness. Deal with it folks there is no stopping it now. : Not only are the Ugly Teardrop supporters running print ads, they have now bought time for TV ads as well. : This Russian fellow's concept is a horror and should never foul the beautiful view on the Owen Grundy Pier. : It's bad enough that we have that horrid Katyn Memorial down at Exchange Place. I hope the City Council does the right thing and stops the Ugly Teardrop !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Are we looking at the same thing? posted Message 6941 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 06:25:00 Subject: Re: "To The Struggle Against World Terrorism" ::Not for nothing, that monstrosity that Mr. Tsereteli (I'm a legend in my own mind) calls art is too big and doesn't look like a teardrop - it looks like a vagina! : Well, at least you have admitted that this monument has support, unlike many who claim no one wants it. Fact of the matter is Mr. Tsereteli is a world class artist and his work is beautiful. He will make J. Owen Grundy Pier something that it is not now, useful. Right now the pier is run down, dirty, and in need of repair. It will take millions of dollars that the city doesn't have to repair the pier. It is something that is better than a tax abatement because it is going to put work into a pier that Jersey City owns. People said the Statue of Liberty, the Twin Towers, and the memorial for Princess Diana were ugly and would never have support. All of those things reached greatness. "To the Struggle Against World Terrorism" will rise from J. Owen Grundy Pier to greatness. Deal with it folks there is no stopping it now. : : Not only are the Ugly Teardrop supporters running print ads, they have now bought time for TV ads as well. : : This Russian fellow's concept is a horror and should never foul the beautiful view on the Owen Grundy Pier. : : It's bad enough that we have that horrid Katyn Memorial down at Exchange Place. I hope the City Council does the right thing and stops the Ugly Teardrop !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** DONT INSULT THE KEYSTONE KOPS posted Message 6942 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 06:31:07 Subject: Re: NOTHING AGAINST THE MARINES -SORRY! :::TEAM HEALY DOESNT EVEN HAVE THE DIGNITY OF THE HOMELESS THAT LIVE AT JOURNAL SQUARE. TEAM HEALY IS IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS STEVE THE SNAKE FLIPSKI. : BAD CHOICE OF WORDS. HEALY AND THE MARINES DON'T GO TOGETER. : THEIR FEEBLE THREATH TO TEAR DOWN SIGNS, IS A SIGN OF OUT-OF-CONTROL DESPARATION OF A SINKING CAMPAIGN. : : ::::IN YOUR PALE, LITTLE FIGHT, EVEN IN JEST YOU DARE EVEN EVOKE THE NAME OF THE MARINES! DRUNKS, WIMPS, GREEDY, CONNIVING, SCHEMEING LOWLIFES! : : : : the war has started and manzo started it there will be no moanzo signs standing soon. ronnie is out now green light given : : : : gerry watch this week we on our way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JERRYS PLATFORM posted Message 6943 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 06:34:15 Subject: Re: HERE COMES JERRY :::A CAN IN EVERY HAND. :::GO FULL THOTTLE WITH A COLD BOTTLE. :::A SINGING MIKE BEFORE THEY TELL US TO TAKE A HIKE :::AND NO PLATFORMS BECAUSE YOU CAN GET HURT IF YOU STUMBLE OFF ONE. : GOT ANYTHING FROM THE HEALY CAMPAIGN THAT EVEN VAGUELY RESEMBLES SOMETHING OF A PLATFORM THAT HE IS RUNNING FOR? : ANYTHING AT ALL?/ SOMETHING? JUST ONE THING? : I'LL BE WAITING. : : NO issues. NO ideas. NO endorsements. Convicted criminals, who spent time behind bars, working the campaign. Yet all Manzo's people can do is take shots at their opponent for using the phrase "Here come the Marines". What a lost campaign. You people trying to corner the political market on patriotism takes the cake. Go crawl back under your rock. It was probably Manzo's people that posted under Captain Healy in the first place. : : : ::::IN YOUR PALE, LITTLE FIGHT, EVEN IN JEST YOU DARE EVEN EVOKE THE NAME OF THE MARINES! DRUNKS, WIMPS, GREEDY, CONNIVING, SCHEMEING LOWLIFES! : : : : : the war has started and manzo started it there will be no moanzo signs standing soon. ronnie is out now green light given : : : : : gerry watch this week we on our way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEY JERRY! AINT YOU PAYING posted Message 6944 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 06:38:53 Subject: Re: yOU GO TO ADMIT :::DEMOLIER ENOUGH? AFTER ALL HE IS GERRYS PROTEGE AND SHOULD KNOW WHAT GERRYS EVERY MOVE WOULD BE. I GUESS HE AINT AS BRIGHT A BULB AS YOU THOUGHT. : AM I SENSING A LITTLE JEALOUSY OF JERRY MCCANN FROM THE HEALY FOLK? : OH WEE! HERE COMES MCCANN'S BATMOBILE! : : Watch out plays out of the old McCann game book. : : : THUMB TACKS ARE NOT GOING TO CUT IT IN THIS ELECTION. : : : : : : : Why is it that I see no media comments on the fact that Bonocoure signs, Healy signs, Flood signs, Smith signs and some Lipski signs are being torn down (and thrown out behind the Manzo headq2uarters). But Manzo's signs seem to have some kind of "dirt bag" repelant, cause they aren't being torn down. Or is it that the dirt bags are workin for Manzo? Gee...I wonder. ***************** End Of Article ****************** REREAD THE POST OR HAVE SOMEONE EXPLAIN IT TO YOU posted Message 6945 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 06:46:17 Subject: Re: Give the Guy a Chance :::BETWEEN JUNE 2004 AND SEPTEMBER 2004 THATS ONLY 4 MONTHS SMITH HAS SPENT $500K OF MONEY THE CITY ALLEGEDLY DOESNT HAVE. CITY SERVICES HAS DECLINED AND HE HAS MANAGED TO DISENFRANCHISE EVERYONE BUT HIS FAMILY AND PEOPLE HE HAS GIVEN JOBS AND PAYRAISES TO. YEAH LETS GIVE HIM MORE TIME. THEN WE CAN RENAME JERSEY CITY - DUMP. : Mayor SMith has only been in office a few months. Let's see what he does in the next few months. There a mayoral election in May 05. Then we can decide. : : :::That you want an ignorant, confrontational, racist who has handed out about $500K in pay increases and patronage hirings since June? : : : I had the opportunity, or should I say misfortune of meeting Jerry and his entourage campaigning. Although the sun had already set, I was taken aback by Jerry's breath. Wheww! Can't his campaign manager some mints? : : : I don;t know who I'am going to vote for. Kind of leaning towards Mayor Smith at this point. : : : : : : : If you have such concerns about the debate, and the sobriety of the candidates, you should have gotten your fat a-ss off your bar stool and gone to the Lowes and watched it. But then again...that would have meant making an effort...and we know Manzo's people are lazy ... just like their candidate. : : : : : Did Jerry Healy state what his platform was all about? : : : : : : : : : : : Cheers, jeers and accusations mark first mayoral debate : : : : : : Saturday, October 02, 2004 : : : : : : By Bonnie Friedman : : : : : : Journal staff writer : : : : : : Four of the 12 Jersey City mayoral candidates squared off in their first debate Thursday night, going head to head over issues such as crime, tax abatements and political appointments. : : : : : : Inside the Loew's Jersey Theater in Journal Square the mood was raucous as supporters of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and City Councilman Jerramiah Healy traded barbs, cheers and jeers. : : : : : : . . . : : : : : : The night got off to a heated start when Alfred Marc Pine, a candidate not participating in the event, stood up from the audience and lambasted the organizers for refusing to include him. : : : : : : "Why am I not allowed to participate in this debate?" Pine shouted. "It is it because I am a political virgin? Is it because I'm Jewish?" : : : : : : With the crowd's encouragement, organizers led Pine up the stairs to the wings of the theater, where, after exchanging heated words with Pat O'Melia, the host of the debate, he was escorted from the theater by two police officers. : : : : : : . . . : : : : : : Healy accused Manzo of launching a smear campaign, while Manzo charged that Healy had something to do with the short-lived candidacy of Raymond Manzo, an eight-year employee of the Parking Authority who withdrew his candidacy for mayor the day after the filing deadline. Lou Manzo campaign officials have said they believe Raymond Manzo was encouraged to run by Healy's campaign to confuse voters. : : : : : : Lipski also entered the fray, chastising Manzo for recommending Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. : : : : : : Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : : : : : Part one of the debate will be shown on Oct. 17 and part two will be shown on Oct. 21 on Comcast cable Channel 64. : : : : : : --- : : : : : : For the complete Jersey Journal article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hmmmm....let's see.... posted Message 6946 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 07:49:08 Subject: Re: Give the Guy a Chance Mayor Smith has been in office since June. In June, he promised a lease to the FOL. Just last week, he told them that he would not give them a lease but instead give the Loew's to the JCRA. This was the birthday gift to the Loew's from Mayor Smith. He fought for the artists at 111 First and then held off passing the resolution that would have saved both 111 and 110 First Street and created the Powerhouse Historic District. The PHD is now in jeopardy. Great going for 4 months...sure, let's give him 6 more to see what he can do....NOT. : Mayor SMith has only been in office a few months. Let's see what he does in the next few months. There a mayoral election in May 05. Then we can decide. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou Manzo's a Low Life posted Message 6947 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 07:54:12 Subject: No Class Lou you have just placed the nail in your coffin. By knocking out Ron you have guaranteed Willie the victory. Now all the Ron people will back her not Jerry! She will now have the necessary votes to win while all you white guys split each others votes. Come to think of it your as dumb as they come! Every Buonocure worker will place 100% of their time to come after you and the Con Man! I have to thank you for that, now I can spend my time following you around! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cute...but ineffective posted Message 6948 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 08:03:12 Subject: Re: Kerry Insensitive To Victims of Communism Mr. Piatkowski knows that he has no chance at winning and is grasping at any straw that the wind blows his way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Platforms anyone??? posted Message 6949 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 08:08:12 Subject: Re: HERE COMES JERRY None of them have anything resembling a platform. I was at the debacle (ooops, I meant debate) and the few candidates that did show up have no fresh ideas and nothing to run on other than their own vanity. Remember all...G-d don't like ugly. : GOT ANYTHING FROM THE HEALY CAMPAIGN THAT EVEN VAGUELY RESEMBLES SOMETHING OF A PLATFORM THAT HE IS RUNNING FOR? : ANYTHING AT ALL?/ SOMETHING? JUST ONE THING? : I'LL BE WAITING. : : NO issues. NO ideas. NO endorsements. Convicted criminals, who spent time behind bars, working the campaign. Yet all Manzo's people can do is take shots at their opponent for using the phrase "Here come the Marines". What a lost campaign. You people trying to corner the political market on patriotism takes the cake. Go crawl back under your rock. It was probably Manzo's people that posted under Captain Healy in the first place. : : : ::::IN YOUR PALE, LITTLE FIGHT, EVEN IN JEST YOU DARE EVEN EVOKE THE NAME OF THE MARINES! DRUNKS, WIMPS, GREEDY, CONNIVING, SCHEMEING LOWLIFES! : : : : : the war has started and manzo started it there will be no moanzo signs standing soon. ronnie is out now green light given : : : : : gerry watch this week we on our way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just Say No to the Monument! posted Message 6950 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 08:13:08 Subject: Re: "To The Struggle Against World Terrorism" That giant piece of "art" is hideous. In the commercial that I saw on TV, they have an artist's conceptual drawing of what the pier will look like with the monument...only thing is that the monument in the drawing is in scale with the surrounding buildings. In reality it dwarfs everything at Exchange Place. It's too big, too gaudy and too ostentatious. It lacks class and character and does a monumental disservice to both the memory of the victims of 911 and to Jersey City. Why does the artist not put it in Brooklyn instead of here. Maybe it's because NYC said no! : Well, at least you have admitted that this monument has support, unlike many who claim no one wants it. Fact of the matter is Mr. Tsereteli is a world class artist and his work is beautiful. He will make J. Owen Grundy Pier something that it is not now, useful. Right now the pier is run down, dirty, and in need of repair. It will take millions of dollars that the city doesn't have to repair the pier. It is something that is better than a tax abatement because it is going to put work into a pier that Jersey City owns. People said the Statue of Liberty, the Twin Towers, and the memorial for Princess Diana were ugly and would never have support. All of those things reached greatness. "To the Struggle Against World Terrorism" will rise from J. Owen Grundy Pier to greatness. Deal with it folks there is no stopping it now. : : Not only are the Ugly Teardrop supporters running print ads, they have now bought time for TV ads as well. : : This Russian fellow's concept is a horror and should never foul the beautiful view on the Owen Grundy Pier. : : It's bad enough that we have that horrid Katyn Memorial down at Exchange Place. I hope the City Council does the right thing and stops the Ugly Teardrop !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steve Lipski For Mayor posted Message 6951 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 08:28:31 Subject: First for Jersey City: Lipski campaigns for mayoralty in RV, going ward by ward ROAD SHOW First for Jersey City: Lipski campaigns for mayoralty in RV, going ward by ward Monday, October 04, 2004 By Bonnie Friedman Journal staff writer Mayoral candidate Steve Lipski is taking his message to the street. Literally. The city councilman plans to spend every day until the Nov. 2 special election canvassing Jersey City's six wards, living, working and sleeping out of a 34-foot recreational vehicle dubbed the "Reform Vehicle Express." "I don't think there is a better approach than to invite people to come in and have a cup of coffee and discuss the issues," Lipski said. "This is as grass roots as it gets." While presidential candidates often use buses to travel long distances, Lipski said he got the idea to scale down the operation after reading about Corey Booker, a mayoral candidate from Newark who campaigned out of an RV in 2001. In 1988, former Jersey City Mayor Tommy Smith used a converted school bus with a mock-up of the Statue of Liberty as a campaign tool, said Robert Byrne, Jersey City clerk. But Lipski, who is holed up in the RV until election day, appears to be the first candidate in Jersey City to take this particular tack, Byrne said. A former Boy Scout and outdoor enthusiast, Lipski said he jumped at the chance to take the campaign on the road. "When I was a Boy Scout, we used to sleep on the floor," Lipski said. "My wife and I love camping, and this is like urban camping." And the voters seem to love it too. As the RV rolls by, most passersby can't help but crack a smile. "It makes me curious as to who he is," said Denise Lynn, 42, who was waiting for a bus near the Grove Street PATH station when the RV pulled past. "I think it's good because it's getting his name out." But not everyone is so fond of the spectacle, particularly the noise - the RV blares Lipski's campaign slogan, playing it over and over and over and over. "To tell you the truth, it's annoying as hell," said Charles Shoop, 45, an elevator mechanic from Teaneck. "That recorded message is like listening to canned laughter." But Lipski believes that the message will grab voters and, if elected, he wants to use either public or private funds to implement a mobile mayor's office. "For too long, party bosses of Jersey City and Hudson County have been mismanaging the government and the city to make it look like Bosnia or a war-zone," Lipski said. "By my coming into your area, I am saying, 'help is on the way.'" The venture is innovative, but not cheap. In addition to shelling out $10,613.24 to rent the RV for seven weeks, Lipski spent another $8,500 to get the vehicle "wrapped" with his picture and slogan. But the money will be well-spent, Lipski said, if it proves to voters that he is serious about the race. "You don't spend $20,000 on a publicity stunt," said Lipski, who noted that he has collected $125,000 in donations thus far. "This is a call to my colleagues and to myself that the people of Jersey City deserve better." He has endowed the RV with all the comforts of home, including "Grateful Dead" CDs, books, bed sheets, and fresh-cut flowers from his wife. When in need of inspiration, he fingers his rosary beads or glances at a button depicting the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's marshal star. The button is pinned to the console above the dining area. "Glenn Cunningham, to me, was a true friend," Lipski said. "It reminds me of all the good he did and how great our city can be." But life on the road isn't always easy. Tuesday's torrential rainstorm wreaked havoc on the RV, and once a week, Lipski is charged with cleaning up a different kind of mess: emptying out the vehicle's waste system. For meals, the candidate feasts on protein shakes and frozen dinners, often stopping at a deli or a chain restaurant for additional provisions. At night, Lipski turns in, in his queen-sized bed in the back of the RV, while a handful of staffers nestle into their pull-out sofas up front. Lipski said he tries to spend each night in a different ward, though he is hesitant to say where for fear that an opponent will vandalize the outside of the RV. And he has run into a fair share of problems. Last week, while parked behind the county superintendent's office in Secaucus, a sheriff's officer hassled him about leaving the car on county property. "There is no law on the books that says I can't park here," Lipski said. "Under my watch, everyone's civil rights will be protected." Some days he is joined by his wife, Yraida, a dental hygienist pursuing a dental degree at New Jersey City University. Though she doesn't spend every night in the RV, Yraida Lipski said she does enjoy the experience. "When we go camping, I am used to sleeping on the floor," she said. "So this is nice. This is like a hotel room for me." For the Lipskis, the campaign is a family affair. On a recent afternoon, Steve passed out fliers at a supermarket while Yraida helped to register voters. Though she never planned on becoming a politician's wife, Yraida Lipski, a native of the Dominican Republic, said the new role would not change her. "I am a simple person and I'm not going to change for anyone," she said. "I'm going to just be myself." While Yraida Lipski offers quiet support from the sidelines, Steve Lipski relishes the spotlight, often speaking to voters in Spanish or Arabic, or catching up with an old friend. "I know he could really help people," said Yraida Lipski. "He has a charisma and everyone has fun with him." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Racist idiot! You are a disgrace to Ms. Flood. posted Message 6952 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 09:02:23 Subject: Re: No Class : Lou you have just placed the nail in your coffin. By knocking out Ron you have guaranteed Willie the victory. Now all the Ron people will back her not Jerry! She will now have the necessary votes to win while all you white guys split each others votes. Come to think of it your as dumb as they come! Every Buonocure worker will place 100% of their time to come after you and the Con Man! I have to thank you for that, now I can spend my time following you around! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not for nothing, If ever there was a reason NOT to vote for him, this is it! posted Message 6953 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 09:03:51 Subject: Re: First for Jersey City: Lipski campaigns for mayoralty in RV, going ward by ward : ROAD SHOW : First for Jersey City: Lipski campaigns for mayoralty in RV, going ward by ward : Monday, October 04, 2004 : By Bonnie Friedman : Journal staff writer : Mayoral candidate Steve Lipski is taking his message to the street. : Literally. : : The city councilman plans to spend every day until the Nov. 2 special election canvassing Jersey City's six wards, living, working and sleeping out of a 34-foot recreational vehicle dubbed the "Reform Vehicle Express." : "I don't think there is a better approach than to invite people to come in and have a cup of coffee and discuss the issues," Lipski said. "This is as grass roots as it gets." : While presidential candidates often use buses to travel long distances, Lipski said he got the idea to scale down the operation after reading about Corey Booker, a mayoral candidate from Newark who campaigned out of an RV in 2001. : In 1988, former Jersey City Mayor Tommy Smith used a converted school bus with a mock-up of the Statue of Liberty as a campaign tool, said Robert Byrne, Jersey City clerk. But Lipski, who is holed up in the RV until election day, appears to be the first candidate in Jersey City to take this particular tack, Byrne said. : A former Boy Scout and outdoor enthusiast, Lipski said he jumped at the chance to take the campaign on the road. : "When I was a Boy Scout, we used to sleep on the floor," Lipski said. "My wife and I love camping, and this is like urban camping." : : And the voters seem to love it too. : As the RV rolls by, most passersby can't help but crack a smile. : "It makes me curious as to who he is," said Denise Lynn, 42, who was waiting for a bus near the Grove Street PATH station when the RV pulled past. "I think it's good because it's getting his name out." : But not everyone is so fond of the spectacle, particularly the noise - the RV blares Lipski's campaign slogan, playing it over and over and over and over. : "To tell you the truth, it's annoying as hell," said Charles Shoop, 45, an elevator mechanic from Teaneck. "That recorded message is like listening to canned laughter." : But Lipski believes that the message will grab voters and, if elected, he wants to use either public or private funds to implement a mobile mayor's office. : "For too long, party bosses of Jersey City and Hudson County have been mismanaging the government and the city to make it look like Bosnia or a war-zone," Lipski said. "By my coming into your area, I am saying, 'help is on the way.'" : The venture is innovative, but not cheap. : In addition to shelling out $10,613.24 to rent the RV for seven weeks, Lipski spent another $8,500 to get the vehicle "wrapped" with his picture and slogan. But the money will be well-spent, Lipski said, if it proves to voters that he is serious about the race. : "You don't spend $20,000 on a publicity stunt," said Lipski, who noted that he has collected $125,000 in donations thus far. "This is a call to my colleagues and to myself that the people of Jersey City deserve better." : He has endowed the RV with all the comforts of home, including "Grateful Dead" CDs, books, bed sheets, and fresh-cut flowers from his wife. : When in need of inspiration, he fingers his rosary beads or glances at a button depicting the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's marshal star. The button is pinned to the console above the dining area. : "Glenn Cunningham, to me, was a true friend," Lipski said. "It reminds me of all the good he did and how great our city can be." : But life on the road isn't always easy. : Tuesday's torrential rainstorm wreaked havoc on the RV, and once a week, Lipski is charged with cleaning up a different kind of mess: emptying out the vehicle's waste system. : For meals, the candidate feasts on protein shakes and frozen dinners, often stopping at a deli or a chain restaurant for additional provisions. : At night, Lipski turns in, in his queen-sized bed in the back of the RV, while a handful of staffers nestle into their pull-out sofas up front. : Lipski said he tries to spend each night in a different ward, though he is hesitant to say where for fear that an opponent will vandalize the outside of the RV. : And he has run into a fair share of problems. Last week, while parked behind the county superintendent's office in Secaucus, a sheriff's officer hassled him about leaving the car on county property. : "There is no law on the books that says I can't park here," Lipski said. "Under my watch, everyone's civil rights will be protected." : Some days he is joined by his wife, Yraida, a dental hygienist pursuing a dental degree at New Jersey City University. : Though she doesn't spend every night in the RV, Yraida Lipski said she does enjoy the experience. : "When we go camping, I am used to sleeping on the floor," she said. "So this is nice. This is like a hotel room for me." : For the Lipskis, the campaign is a family affair. : On a recent afternoon, Steve passed out fliers at a supermarket while Yraida helped to register voters. : Though she never planned on becoming a politician's wife, Yraida Lipski, a native of the Dominican Republic, said the new role would not change her. : "I am a simple person and I'm not going to change for anyone," she said. "I'm going to just be myself." : While Yraida Lipski offers quiet support from the sidelines, Steve Lipski relishes the spotlight, often speaking to voters in Spanish or Arabic, or catching up with an old friend. : "I know he could really help people," said Yraida Lipski. "He has a charisma and everyone has fun with him." ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Possible Vote for Healy posted Message 6954 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 09:08:12 Subject: Now Manzo wants to talk issues? Give me a break Manzo's people are so desperate you can sense the fear at their campaighn headquarters. And its hilarious that they take shots at their competitors in this race when a Healy supporter asks "where's the debate on issues?". Well..I've listened to all of these folks and all I hear from Manzo is about.... No More Tax abatements and that Brownfields need to be cleaned up. But that's all he's talked about for 10 years now. Healy talks about Job Creation, safe streets and crime fighting... a good start, but there has to be more. I trust that his brain trust will come up with something more concrete than that. Smith... well... I guess we will judge him on his performance in office. So far..I'm not impressed. Lipski... well he looks like he should take his RV and go on the road to somewhere else. But what really gets my goat in this whole campaign is that Manzo's people seem to be taking the majority of nasty shots at the other candidates. If anything...I will be voting against Manzo and for anyone else. Manzo just seems to be on a crash course towards political irrelevancy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** workerbee posted Message 6955 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 09:24:29 Subject: Re: Now Manzo wants to talk issues? Give me a break : Manzo's people are so desperate you can sense the fear at their campaighn headquarters. And its hilarious that they take shots at their competitors in this race when a Healy supporter asks "where's the debate on issues?". Well..I've listened to all of these folks and all I hear from Manzo is about.... No More Tax abatements and that Brownfields need to be cleaned up. But that's all he's talked about for 10 years now. : Healy talks about Job Creation, safe streets and crime fighting... a good start, but there has to be more. I trust that his brain trust will come up with something more concrete than that. : Smith... well... I guess we will judge him on his performance in office. So far..I'm not impressed. Lipski... well he looks like he should take his RV and go on the road to somewhere else. : But what really gets my goat in this whole campaign is that Manzo's people seem to be taking the majority of nasty shots at the other candidates. If anything...I will be voting against Manzo and for anyone else. Manzo just seems to be on a crash course towards political irrelevancy. ::::::Jobs have to be created. Gaughan/Dixons have all of the present jobs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** At Discrediting Manzo posted Message 6956 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 09:42:44 Subject: Feeble Attempt I DON'T HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT HEALY IS GOING TO DO. WHAT IS HE ALL ABOUT. DON'T HAVE TO TELL US HE IS THE STOOGE FOR THE HCDO, WE KNOW THAT ALREADY. WE KNOW HE HANGS OUT AT THE ASTOR BAR. WE KNOW HE DOESN'T LIKE GAY PEOPLE. ANYTHING CONCRETE YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT LIFE UNDER A ,MAYOR HEALY? : Manzo's people are so desperate you can sense the fear at their campaighn headquarters. And its hilarious that they take shots at their competitors in this race when a Healy supporter asks "where's the debate on issues?". Well..I've listened to all of these folks and all I hear from Manzo is about.... No More Tax abatements and that Brownfields need to be cleaned up. But that's all he's talked about for 10 years now. : Healy talks about Job Creation, safe streets and crime fighting... a good start, but there has to be more. I trust that his brain trust will come up with something more concrete than that. : Smith... well... I guess we will judge him on his performance in office. So far..I'm not impressed. Lipski... well he looks like he should take his RV and go on the road to somewhere else. : But what really gets my goat in this whole campaign is that Manzo's people seem to be taking the majority of nasty shots at the other candidates. If anything...I will be voting against Manzo and for anyone else. Manzo just seems to be on a crash course towards political irrelevancy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6957 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 09:54:25 Subject: The Flipski-Mobile Flipski has got to be delusional. Maybe he's got a dream of tooling around like the Partridge Family in their bus. RV or no, Flipski is going down and he's going down hard !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 6958 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 09:57:49 Subject: Manzo on Enviroment Manzo wants to talk about Enviroment? Start but removing his cheap campaign signs, the ones that melt after each rain, pasted to all the light polls in Jersey City? How about he start but explaining why he saved his boy toy McMann from a no show job, not filin the proper reports and steeped in to prevent he from being fired. Then because this boy toy doesn't show up and file the proper paperwork with the state, gets the city fined! But as an Assemblyman he would use his political clout to make sure the State's fine will dissappear.... Give me a break ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Timothy Leary posted Message 6959 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 09:58:44 Subject: Are you on drugs ??? Do you really think supporters of a white cop are going to vote for an empty-headed black woman ??? Must be all the LSD you are taking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood watch posted Message 6960 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 10:04:42 Subject: Re: No Class Willie Flood is a racist, talk to anyone who has worked with her! She hates Whitey, no two ways about it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6961 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 10:05:19 Subject: Ugly Teardrop Supporters I never said it didn't have supporters. Supporters like the corrupt UTN/Cunningham crew. And of course, the leader or the Ugly Teardrop's promotional campaign, mister sleaze himself, Anthony Grazioso. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 6962 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 10:17:45 Subject: I suspect you are ... one of those yahoos who protest about the end of Polish masses at OLC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6963 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 10:19:46 Subject: It's not over 'till it's over! Buonocore appeal to be heard today or tomorrow An appeals court is to issue a ruling on Ron Buonocore's case either today or tomorrow. - - - It a strange turn of events, it's reported that immediately after last week's ruling, Lou Manzo came to the one Buonocore supporter's house requesting that he replace Ron's signs with Manzo for Mayor signs. Also, a Manzo sign crew went to a business with Buonocore signs and -- without permission --attempted to put up Manzo posters. The workers left when told to do so. ***************** End Of Article ****************** i laughed so hard i almost p1ssed posted Message 6964 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 10:44:51 Subject: put an end to political corruption, elect Jerramiah T. Healy Just got the mail and saw this flyer. Does this mean that Healy is going to make Gaughan's daughter do some work for a paycheck? ***************** End Of Article ****************** A possible Vote for Healy or Smith. Manzo...no way posted Message 6965 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 10:48:18 Subject: Re: Feeble Attempt Ok Dirtbag... I will speak in your terms. Manzo is surrounding himself with the same old garbage we have seen for years. I asked about issues...and your reply is what I would expect from a 3rd grader. Healy has talked about job creation, helping local merchants, creating an environment for neighborhood rehabilitation, upgrading public facilities that have gotten over-burdened and a few other issues I've heard him bounce around. Its not enough to get me to vote for him YET. But its a good start. Smith talks about fiscal responsibility and the budget. I give him credit for that too. So I ask...what is Manzo about other than Brownfields and tax abatements? And in return for my inquiry....a low-life dirt-bag writes back the idiotic response you see below. I judge people by those they choose to surround themselves with. If you are a Manzo supporter...you can count on the fact that you have just secured another vote for either Healy or Smith. I would never associate with the likes of a scumb-g like you. : I DON'T HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT HEALY IS GOING TO DO. : WHAT IS HE ALL ABOUT. DON'T HAVE TO TELL US HE IS THE STOOGE FOR THE HCDO, WE KNOW THAT ALREADY. WE KNOW HE HANGS OUT AT THE ASTOR BAR. WE KNOW HE DOESN'T LIKE GAY PEOPLE. : ANYTHING CONCRETE YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT LIFE UNDER A ,MAYOR HEALY? : : Manzo's people are so desperate you can sense the fear at their campaighn headquarters. And its hilarious that they take shots at their competitors in this race when a Healy supporter asks "where's the debate on issues?". Well..I've listened to all of these folks and all I hear from Manzo is about.... No More Tax abatements and that Brownfields need to be cleaned up. But that's all he's talked about for 10 years now. : : Healy talks about Job Creation, safe streets and crime fighting... a good start, but there has to be more. I trust that his brain trust will come up with something more concrete than that. : : Smith... well... I guess we will judge him on his performance in office. So far..I'm not impressed. Lipski... well he looks like he should take his RV and go on the road to somewhere else. : : But what really gets my goat in this whole campaign is that Manzo's people seem to be taking the majority of nasty shots at the other candidates. If anything...I will be voting against Manzo and for anyone else. Manzo just seems to be on a crash course towards political irrelevancy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry Garcia posted Message 6966 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 10:51:32 Subject: Re: First for Jersey City: Lipski campaigns for mayoralty in RV, going ward by ward I didn't know that Steve was a deadhead. Hmmmm....maybe he is selling crystals from the van to support his campaign. : ROAD SHOW : First for Jersey City: Lipski campaigns for mayoralty in RV, going ward by ward : Monday, October 04, 2004 : By Bonnie Friedman : Journal staff writer : Mayoral candidate Steve Lipski is taking his message to the street. : Literally. : : The city councilman plans to spend every day until the Nov. 2 special election canvassing Jersey City's six wards, living, working and sleeping out of a 34-foot recreational vehicle dubbed the "Reform Vehicle Express." : "I don't think there is a better approach than to invite people to come in and have a cup of coffee and discuss the issues," Lipski said. "This is as grass roots as it gets." : While presidential candidates often use buses to travel long distances, Lipski said he got the idea to scale down the operation after reading about Corey Booker, a mayoral candidate from Newark who campaigned out of an RV in 2001. : In 1988, former Jersey City Mayor Tommy Smith used a converted school bus with a mock-up of the Statue of Liberty as a campaign tool, said Robert Byrne, Jersey City clerk. But Lipski, who is holed up in the RV until election day, appears to be the first candidate in Jersey City to take this particular tack, Byrne said. : A former Boy Scout and outdoor enthusiast, Lipski said he jumped at the chance to take the campaign on the road. : "When I was a Boy Scout, we used to sleep on the floor," Lipski said. "My wife and I love camping, and this is like urban camping." : : And the voters seem to love it too. : As the RV rolls by, most passersby can't help but crack a smile. : "It makes me curious as to who he is," said Denise Lynn, 42, who was waiting for a bus near the Grove Street PATH station when the RV pulled past. "I think it's good because it's getting his name out." : But not everyone is so fond of the spectacle, particularly the noise - the RV blares Lipski's campaign slogan, playing it over and over and over and over. : "To tell you the truth, it's annoying as hell," said Charles Shoop, 45, an elevator mechanic from Teaneck. "That recorded message is like listening to canned laughter." : But Lipski believes that the message will grab voters and, if elected, he wants to use either public or private funds to implement a mobile mayor's office. : "For too long, party bosses of Jersey City and Hudson County have been mismanaging the government and the city to make it look like Bosnia or a war-zone," Lipski said. "By my coming into your area, I am saying, 'help is on the way.'" : The venture is innovative, but not cheap. : In addition to shelling out $10,613.24 to rent the RV for seven weeks, Lipski spent another $8,500 to get the vehicle "wrapped" with his picture and slogan. But the money will be well-spent, Lipski said, if it proves to voters that he is serious about the race. : "You don't spend $20,000 on a publicity stunt," said Lipski, who noted that he has collected $125,000 in donations thus far. "This is a call to my colleagues and to myself that the people of Jersey City deserve better." : He has endowed the RV with all the comforts of home, including "Grateful Dead" CDs, books, bed sheets, and fresh-cut flowers from his wife. : When in need of inspiration, he fingers his rosary beads or glances at a button depicting the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's marshal star. The button is pinned to the console above the dining area. : "Glenn Cunningham, to me, was a true friend," Lipski said. "It reminds me of all the good he did and how great our city can be." : But life on the road isn't always easy. : Tuesday's torrential rainstorm wreaked havoc on the RV, and once a week, Lipski is charged with cleaning up a different kind of mess: emptying out the vehicle's waste system. : For meals, the candidate feasts on protein shakes and frozen dinners, often stopping at a deli or a chain restaurant for additional provisions. : At night, Lipski turns in, in his queen-sized bed in the back of the RV, while a handful of staffers nestle into their pull-out sofas up front. : Lipski said he tries to spend each night in a different ward, though he is hesitant to say where for fear that an opponent will vandalize the outside of the RV. : And he has run into a fair share of problems. Last week, while parked behind the county superintendent's office in Secaucus, a sheriff's officer hassled him about leaving the car on county property. : "There is no law on the books that says I can't park here," Lipski said. "Under my watch, everyone's civil rights will be protected." : Some days he is joined by his wife, Yraida, a dental hygienist pursuing a dental degree at New Jersey City University. : Though she doesn't spend every night in the RV, Yraida Lipski said she does enjoy the experience. : "When we go camping, I am used to sleeping on the floor," she said. "So this is nice. This is like a hotel room for me." : For the Lipskis, the campaign is a family affair. : On a recent afternoon, Steve passed out fliers at a supermarket while Yraida helped to register voters. : Though she never planned on becoming a politician's wife, Yraida Lipski, a native of the Dominican Republic, said the new role would not change her. : "I am a simple person and I'm not going to change for anyone," she said. "I'm going to just be myself." : While Yraida Lipski offers quiet support from the sidelines, Steve Lipski relishes the spotlight, often speaking to voters in Spanish or Arabic, or catching up with an old friend. : "I know he could really help people," said Yraida Lipski. "He has a charisma and everyone has fun with him." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don't vote for the devils that you know posted Message 6967 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 11:01:46 Subject: Re: Now Manzo wants to talk issues? Give me a break Don't vote for the same old gang...vote for someone that you don't know. We need fresh ideas...not business as usual. Vote for the devils that you don't! Manzo, Healy, Smith, Lipski, Flood...same old retreads that won't do anything different. The debate was a fiasco...legitimate candidates were not allowed to participate. Only the candidates that someone (probably Pat O'Melia) thought should be invited were allowed to participate. He claims that this was in the interest of time to broadcast. I would have much preferred a non-broadcasted but well publicized debate with everyone that is a legitimate candidate participating. Not a one of the "select few" discussed any issues...it was all just soundbites with no plans to implement what they were saying. All fluff and no substance. If we want to stop the downward spiral of Jersey City, we have to get rid of the same group of politicians that we've had in office for far too long. : Manzo's people are so desperate you can sense the fear at their campaighn headquarters. And its hilarious that they take shots at their competitors in this race when a Healy supporter asks "where's the debate on issues?". Well..I've listened to all of these folks and all I hear from Manzo is about.... No More Tax abatements and that Brownfields need to be cleaned up. But that's all he's talked about for 10 years now. : Healy talks about Job Creation, safe streets and crime fighting... a good start, but there has to be more. I trust that his brain trust will come up with something more concrete than that. : Smith... well... I guess we will judge him on his performance in office. So far..I'm not impressed. Lipski... well he looks like he should take his RV and go on the road to somewhere else. : But what really gets my goat in this whole campaign is that Manzo's people seem to be taking the majority of nasty shots at the other candidates. If anything...I will be voting against Manzo and for anyone else. Manzo just seems to be on a crash course towards political irrelevancy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** eye on the prize posted Message 6968 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 11:28:06 Subject: Re: put an end to political corruption, elect Jerramiah T. Healy : Just got the mail and saw this flyer. : Does this mean that Healy is going to make Gaughan's daughter do some work for a paycheck? ;;;;Which daughter? One has two jobs the other has one . Son in law even worse. From derelict to supervisor thanks to marriage to Gaughan daughter, Any desperate bachelors out there. There's one left. Jaimie? ***************** End Of Article ****************** She's on the T-I-T as Well! posted Message 6969 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 11:45:19 Subject: How About Tom DeGise's Sister How about DeGise 's sister. What EXACTLY does she do for her county paycheck???????? Nepotism running wild, but Jerry Healy is going to end it all, RIGHT? Let's get some feedback from the County Executive. : Just got the mail and saw this flyer. : Does this mean that Healy is going to make Gaughan's daughter do some work for a paycheck? ***************** End Of Article ****************** HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA posted Message 6970 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 11:46:26 Subject: Re: put an end to political corruption, elect Jerramiah T. Healy ::::HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA : : Just got the mail and saw this flyer. : : Does this mean that Healy is going to make Gaughan's daughter do some work for a paycheck? : ;;;;Which daughter? One has two jobs the other has one . Son in law even worse. From derelict to supervisor thanks to marriage to Gaughan daughter, Any desperate bachelors out there. There's one left. Jaimie? ***************** End Of Article ****************** All You Have to Offer is Personal Attacks posted Message 6971 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 11:50:29 Subject: Re: Feeble Attempt Hey Healy Supporter. All you can do is personally attack Manzo and those that will elect him Mayor. Dirtbag, scu_bag? Thats all you can do? Come on, are you guys as stupid as you exhibit by your posts on this board? I guess I was expecting too much. ALcohol kills brain cells, and you caught the disease. Too bad, LOSER! : Ok Dirtbag... I will speak in your terms. Manzo is surrounding himself with the same old garbage we have seen for years. I asked about issues...and your reply is what I would expect from a 3rd grader. : Healy has talked about job creation, helping local merchants, creating an environment for neighborhood rehabilitation, upgrading public facilities that have gotten over-burdened and a few other issues I've heard him bounce around. Its not enough to get me to vote for him YET. But its a good start. Smith talks about fiscal responsibility and the budget. I give him credit for that too. : So I ask...what is Manzo about other than Brownfields and tax abatements? And in return for my inquiry....a low-life dirt-bag writes back the idiotic response you see below. I judge people by those they choose to surround themselves with. If you are a Manzo supporter...you can count on the fact that you have just secured another vote for either Healy or Smith. I would never associate with the likes of a scumb-g like you. : : I DON'T HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT HEALY IS GOING TO DO. : : WHAT IS HE ALL ABOUT. DON'T HAVE TO TELL US HE IS THE STOOGE FOR THE HCDO, WE KNOW THAT ALREADY. WE KNOW HE HANGS OUT AT THE ASTOR BAR. WE KNOW HE DOESN'T LIKE GAY PEOPLE. : : ANYTHING CONCRETE YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT LIFE UNDER A ,MAYOR HEALY? : : : Manzo's people are so desperate you can sense the fear at their campaighn headquarters. And its hilarious that they take shots at their competitors in this race when a Healy supporter asks "where's the debate on issues?". Well..I've listened to all of these folks and all I hear from Manzo is about.... No More Tax abatements and that Brownfields need to be cleaned up. But that's all he's talked about for 10 years now. : : : Healy talks about Job Creation, safe streets and crime fighting... a good start, but there has to be more. I trust that his brain trust will come up with something more concrete than that. : : : Smith... well... I guess we will judge him on his performance in office. So far..I'm not impressed. Lipski... well he looks like he should take his RV and go on the road to somewhere else. : : : But what really gets my goat in this whole campaign is that Manzo's people seem to be taking the majority of nasty shots at the other candidates. If anything...I will be voting against Manzo and for anyone else. Manzo just seems to be on a crash course towards political irrelevancy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Abusing the Public posted Message 6972 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 11:54:21 Subject: Gaughan Too? Does DeGise have no shame? Who else in his inner circle are on the payroll. I bet he's got his dead relatives lined up for jobs in a Jerry Healy administration. What a joke. Tom DeGise are you there, or are you out golfing with your consultants today? Its a nice day, hate to see you waste it in the office! : ::::HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA : : : Just got the mail and saw this flyer. : : : Does this mean that Healy is going to make Gaughan's daughter do some work for a paycheck? : : ;;;;Which daughter? One has two jobs the other has one . Son in law even worse. From derelict to supervisor thanks to marriage to Gaughan daughter, Any desperate bachelors out there. There's one left. Jaimie? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ill flush you down the toilet posted Message 6973 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 11:55:41 Subject: If I ever see you : one of those yahoos who protest about the end of Polish masses at OLC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Horses and Fish posted Message 6974 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 12:00:08 Subject: Buddy Doesn't Have the Time Buddy is too busy watching the horses run or trying to catch a big one in Montauk. Campaign? He's on the county payroll too! If healy loses so what, he will still cash those county checks. : :::DEMOLIER ENOUGH? AFTER ALL HE IS GERRYS PROTEGE AND SHOULD KNOW WHAT GERRYS EVERY MOVE WOULD BE. I GUESS HE AINT AS BRIGHT A BULB AS YOU THOUGHT. : : AM I SENSING A LITTLE JEALOUSY OF JERRY MCCANN FROM THE HEALY FOLK? : : OH WEE! HERE COMES MCCANN'S BATMOBILE! : : : Watch out plays out of the old McCann game book. : : : : THUMB TACKS ARE NOT GOING TO CUT IT IN THIS ELECTION. : : : : : : : : : Why is it that I see no media comments on the fact that Bonocoure signs, Healy signs, Flood signs, Smith signs and some Lipski signs are being torn down (and thrown out behind the Manzo headq2uarters). But Manzo's signs seem to have some kind of "dirt bag" repelant, cause they aren't being torn down. Or is it that the dirt bags are workin for Manzo? Gee...I wonder. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who cares posted Message 6975 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 12:05:56 Subject: Signs Dont Vote. People Do. Signs don't count anymore because I know at least 20 people who have Harvey Smith or Manzo signs who will never vote for him so its all useless. People already know who they will vote for. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So True posted Message 6976 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 12:11:50 Subject: We all know why people have Uncle Harvey signs up. He threatens people with taxes and tries to bribe people. Thats low. : Signs don't count anymore because I know at least 20 people who have Harvey Smith or Manzo signs who will never vote for him so its all useless. People already know who they will vote for. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Look in the Mirror posted Message 6977 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 12:17:43 Subject: Manzo Tries to Turn the Tables the first attack posts that appeared on this board were from Manzo people. now that the tables are turned, and the gewneral readers of this board are attacking manzo....you people are crying boo hoo... those bad men are attacking our candidate. doesn't taste too good when you get a dose of your own poison eh? I can pretty much guarantee that Healy's people and Smith's people are not interested in the crawl-on-your-belly politics of the McManzo team. Everyone is wise to your low life tactics of supergluing your opponents placards to people's cars. We know the kind of gutter politics you play. But say one thing about your "skummy" ways...and you cry foul. if that is the best you can do...good luck finding a job post-November. : Hey Healy Supporter. All you can do is personally attack Manzo and those that will elect him Mayor. Dirtbag, scu_bag? Thats all you can do? Come on, are you guys as stupid as you exhibit by your posts on this board? I guess I was expecting too much. : ALcohol kills brain cells, and you caught the disease. : Too bad, LOSER! : : Ok Dirtbag... I will speak in your terms. Manzo is surrounding himself with the same old garbage we have seen for years. I asked about issues...and your reply is what I would expect from a 3rd grader. : : Healy has talked about job creation, helping local merchants, creating an environment for neighborhood rehabilitation, upgrading public facilities that have gotten over-burdened and a few other issues I've heard him bounce around. Its not enough to get me to vote for him YET. But its a good start. Smith talks about fiscal responsibility and the budget. I give him credit for that too. : : So I ask...what is Manzo about other than Brownfields and tax abatements? And in return for my inquiry....a low-life dirt-bag writes back the idiotic response you see below. I judge people by those they choose to surround themselves with. If you are a Manzo supporter...you can count on the fact that you have just secured another vote for either Healy or Smith. I would never associate with the likes of a scumb-g like you. : : : I DON'T HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT HEALY IS GOING TO DO. : : : WHAT IS HE ALL ABOUT. DON'T HAVE TO TELL US HE IS THE STOOGE FOR THE HCDO, WE KNOW THAT ALREADY. WE KNOW HE HANGS OUT AT THE ASTOR BAR. WE KNOW HE DOESN'T LIKE GAY PEOPLE. : : : ANYTHING CONCRETE YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT LIFE UNDER A ,MAYOR HEALY? : : : : Manzo's people are so desperate you can sense the fear at their campaighn headquarters. And its hilarious that they take shots at their competitors in this race when a Healy supporter asks "where's the debate on issues?". Well..I've listened to all of these folks and all I hear from Manzo is about.... No More Tax abatements and that Brownfields need to be cleaned up. But that's all he's talked about for 10 years now. : : : : Healy talks about Job Creation, safe streets and crime fighting... a good start, but there has to be more. I trust that his brain trust will come up with something more concrete than that. : : : : Smith... well... I guess we will judge him on his performance in office. So far..I'm not impressed. Lipski... well he looks like he should take his RV and go on the road to somewhere else. : : : : But what really gets my goat in this whole campaign is that Manzo's people seem to be taking the majority of nasty shots at the other candidates. If anything...I will be voting against Manzo and for anyone else. Manzo just seems to be on a crash course towards political irrelevancy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sick and Tired posted Message 6978 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 12:32:19 Subject: To hell with it I'm voting for Willie Everybody but her is throwing dirt. And the other guys are all full of it. We know it and they know it. People really like and trust her and frankly, I do too. I've done my research and really she can retire now so that tells me that she really gives a damn about this city. At least she dosent have a reputation for being corrupt. Oh yeah before I forget I have seen people call her a racist that is untrue. She helped me get on the fire department in 2002 and I am Italian. So I don't buy this racist bullcrap. And I challenge someone to prove with hard facts that she is a racist! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wise posted Message 6979 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 12:41:38 Subject: Healy has no platform Jerry Healy is a poster boy for DeGise and the HCDO. If he is elected he will give jobs freinds and relatives from out of town. Do not vote for this man . He answers to political bosses and does not care about Jersey City. He has done nothing for this city , look at his city council records for the last 3 years. He is nothing but a liar. He may promise things but nothing will get done. If he cares so much why didn't he try to mend fences with Glenn Cunningham. Jerry Healy stands for politics first , jobs for out out of towners second. Nothing is there to convince anyone to vote for him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 6980 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 12:59:28 Subject: Harvey Knows its Over. So He will try hard to take Willie's votes. And who is this other puppet in the race Gadsen. Dosen't he know that this is no time for a college experiment. Or better yet who paid him to get in the election? Uncle harvey? Fruitboy Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOOK posted Message 6981 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 13:05:07 Subject: Heard Uncle Harvey is wroking for Frootie Lou I wouldn't be surprised. : And who is this other puppet in the race Gadsen. Dosen't he know that this is no time for a college experiment. Or better yet who paid him to get in the election? Uncle harvey? Fruitboy Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Against Uncle Harvey posted Message 6982 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 13:09:32 Subject: Re: Feeble Attempt Healy is a drunk racist crossdresser and Harvey is too stupid to do anything. : Ok Dirtbag... I will speak in your terms. Manzo is surrounding himself with the same old garbage we have seen for years. I asked about issues...and your reply is what I would expect from a 3rd grader. : Healy has talked about job creation, helping local merchants, creating an environment for neighborhood rehabilitation, upgrading public facilities that have gotten over-burdened and a few other issues I've heard him bounce around. Its not enough to get me to vote for him YET. But its a good start. Smith talks about fiscal responsibility and the budget. I give him credit for that too. : So I ask...what is Manzo about other than Brownfields and tax abatements? And in return for my inquiry....a low-life dirt-bag writes back the idiotic response you see below. I judge people by those they choose to surround themselves with. If you are a Manzo supporter...you can count on the fact that you have just secured another vote for either Healy or Smith. I would never associate with the likes of a scumb-g like you. : : I DON'T HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT HEALY IS GOING TO DO. : : WHAT IS HE ALL ABOUT. DON'T HAVE TO TELL US HE IS THE STOOGE FOR THE HCDO, WE KNOW THAT ALREADY. WE KNOW HE HANGS OUT AT THE ASTOR BAR. WE KNOW HE DOESN'T LIKE GAY PEOPLE. : : ANYTHING CONCRETE YOU CAN TELL US ABOUT LIFE UNDER A ,MAYOR HEALY? : : : Manzo's people are so desperate you can sense the fear at their campaighn headquarters. And its hilarious that they take shots at their competitors in this race when a Healy supporter asks "where's the debate on issues?". Well..I've listened to all of these folks and all I hear from Manzo is about.... No More Tax abatements and that Brownfields need to be cleaned up. But that's all he's talked about for 10 years now. : : : Healy talks about Job Creation, safe streets and crime fighting... a good start, but there has to be more. I trust that his brain trust will come up with something more concrete than that. : : : Smith... well... I guess we will judge him on his performance in office. So far..I'm not impressed. Lipski... well he looks like he should take his RV and go on the road to somewhere else. : : : But what really gets my goat in this whole campaign is that Manzo's people seem to be taking the majority of nasty shots at the other candidates. If anything...I will be voting against Manzo and for anyone else. Manzo just seems to be on a crash course towards political irrelevancy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why don't you put a nail in your head posted Message 6983 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 13:12:53 Subject: Buonocre has less than 10 workers : Lou you have just placed the nail in your coffin. By knocking out Ron you have guaranteed Willie the victory. Now all the Ron people will back her not Jerry! She will now have the necessary votes to win while all you white guys split each others votes. Come to think of it your as dumb as they come! Every Buonocure worker will place 100% of their time to come after you and the Con Man! I have to thank you for that, now I can spend my time following you around! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uh huh...and your candidate's platform is... posted Message 6984 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 14:01:24 Subject: Re: Healy has no platform No one ever answered me when I asked what the other candidate's platforms are. Before you start knocking Healy's lack of a platform, you need to post what the platform is of the candidate that you work for. Manzo has no platform except Lou. Smith has no platform except Harvey. Lipski has no platform except Steve. Flood has no platform except Willie. Is anyone out there willing to put up facts about their candidate's platforms or are you willing to admit the truth that they don't have platforms. I'm waiting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mccann's Address posted Message 6985 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 14:02:43 Subject: Turn the Tables Gerald and Maureen McCann 25 Carmita Ave, Rutherford, NJ Sleep well Gerald! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm not voting for the usual crew posted Message 6986 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 14:02:57 Subject: Re: Harvey Knows its Over. So He will try hard to take Willie's votes. I'll take Gadsden, Pine or Mansour over any of these others. Vote for the devil that you don't know instead of the devil that you do! : And who is this other puppet in the race Gadsen. Dosen't he know that this is no time for a college experiment. Or better yet who paid him to get in the election? Uncle harvey? Fruitboy Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** What happened to the Park Hamilton posted Message 6987 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 14:03:59 Subject: Re: Turn the Tables When did he move from 205 10th Street? : Gerald and Maureen McCann : 25 Carmita Ave, Rutherford, NJ : Sleep well Gerald! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vote for Jerry posted Message 6988 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 14:04:27 Subject: Happy Hour At the Astor Bar I hear Jerry is going to have 'Happy Hour on the Mayor' at the Astor every Friday at 4:00 PM. Of course he will charge the tab to the city. : :::A CAN IN EVERY HAND. : :::GO FULL THOTTLE WITH A COLD BOTTLE. : :::A SINGING MIKE BEFORE THEY TELL US TO TAKE A HIKE : :::AND NO PLATFORMS BECAUSE YOU CAN GET HURT IF YOU STUMBLE OFF ONE. : : GOT ANYTHING FROM THE HEALY CAMPAIGN THAT EVEN VAGUELY RESEMBLES SOMETHING OF A PLATFORM THAT HE IS RUNNING FOR? : : ANYTHING AT ALL?/ SOMETHING? JUST ONE THING? : : I'LL BE WAITING. : : : NO issues. NO ideas. NO endorsements. Convicted criminals, who spent time behind bars, working the campaign. Yet all Manzo's people can do is take shots at their opponent for using the phrase "Here come the Marines". What a lost campaign. You people trying to corner the political market on patriotism takes the cake. Go crawl back under your rock. It was probably Manzo's people that posted under Captain Healy in the first place. : : : : ::::IN YOUR PALE, LITTLE FIGHT, EVEN IN JEST YOU DARE EVEN EVOKE THE NAME OF THE MARINES! DRUNKS, WIMPS, GREEDY, CONNIVING, SCHEMEING LOWLIFES! : : : : : : the war has started and manzo started it there will be no moanzo signs standing soon. ronnie is out now green light given : : : : : : gerry watch this week we on our way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Its about winning - not fighting posted Message 6989 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 14:08:31 Subject: Willie time to close ranks around Harvey Willie, elections are about getting the most votes. Now you are not going to out vote Harvey, however you and Harvey could make it a interesting race, maybe the two together can even win. Its that what's it all about winning, not trying to kill a potential ally. : I'll take Gadsden, Pine or Mansour over any of these others. Vote for the devil that you don't know instead of the devil that you do! : : And who is this other puppet in the race Gadsen. Dosen't he know that this is no time for a college experiment. Or better yet who paid him to get in the election? Uncle harvey? Fruitboy Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC Dems for Bush posted Message 6990 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 14:10:35 Subject: Can you Take this off the message Board To: getnj webmaster Can you take down the picture of Jose and his turn-coat Dem friends? Enough punishment already! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC politics are a blood sport posted Message 6991 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 15:01:49 Subject: Re: Willie time to close ranks around Harvey Bill Clinton called it a "contact sport" in his book...he's never campaigned here...it's a full out blood assault. Disgraceful! : Willie, elections are about getting the most votes. Now you are not going to out vote Harvey, however you and Harvey could make it a interesting race, maybe the two together can even win. : Its that what's it all about winning, not trying to kill a potential ally. : : : I'll take Gadsden, Pine or Mansour over any of these others. Vote for the devil that you don't know instead of the devil that you do! : : : And who is this other puppet in the race Gadsen. Dosen't he know that this is no time for a college experiment. Or better yet who paid him to get in the election? Uncle harvey? Fruitboy Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watcher posted Message 6992 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 15:16:42 Subject: Re: Harvey Knows its Over. So He will try hard to take Willie's votes. Whatever then you don't really know what u are talking about. They all work for Manzo. : I'll take Gadsden, Pine or Mansour over any of these others. Vote for the devil that you don't know instead of the devil that you do! : : And who is this other puppet in the race Gadsen. Dosen't he know that this is no time for a college experiment. Or better yet who paid him to get in the election? Uncle harvey? Fruitboy Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Never posted Message 6993 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 15:22:37 Subject: Harvey is a thorn in this City's side. Harvey is an evil man who can't run the city. He works for Manzo. : Willie, elections are about getting the most votes. Now you are not going to out vote Harvey, however you and Harvey could make it a interesting race, maybe the two together can even win. : Its that what's it all about winning, not trying to kill a potential ally. : : : I'll take Gadsden, Pine or Mansour over any of these others. Vote for the devil that you don't know instead of the devil that you do! : : : And who is this other puppet in the race Gadsen. Dosen't he know that this is no time for a college experiment. Or better yet who paid him to get in the election? Uncle harvey? Fruitboy Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Comedian posted Message 6994 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 15:23:48 Subject: LOL!! You can say that again. : To: getnj webmaster : Can you take down the picture of Jose and his turn-coat Dem friends? Enough punishment already! ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's what you think posted Message 6995 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 15:54:51 Subject: Re: Harvey Knows its Over. So He will try hard to take Willie's votes. I'll put money on it that they don't work for Manzo. Not everyone who is running is part of the established machines in Jersey City. Some people might actually want to run because they believe themselves to be better fit to run for office than the current crew. : Whatever then you don't really know what u are talking about. They all work for Manzo. : : I'll take Gadsden, Pine or Mansour over any of these others. Vote for the devil that you don't know instead of the devil that you do! : : : And who is this other puppet in the race Gadsen. Dosen't he know that this is no time for a college experiment. Or better yet who paid him to get in the election? Uncle harvey? Fruitboy Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** He's too low class for Manzo BUT posted Message 6996 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 16:02:33 Subject: Re: Harvey is a thorn in this City's side. :::He was seen in Healy's Central Ave. HQ. A match made in heaven. : Harvey is an evil man who can't run the city. He works for Manzo. : : : Willie, elections are about getting the most votes. Now you are not going to out vote Harvey, however you and Harvey could make it a interesting race, maybe the two together can even win. : : Its that what's it all about winning, not trying to kill a potential ally. : : : : : I'll take Gadsden, Pine or Mansour over any of these others. Vote for the devil that you don't know instead of the devil that you do! : : : : And who is this other puppet in the race Gadsen. Dosen't he know that this is no time for a college experiment. Or better yet who paid him to get in the election? Uncle harvey? Fruitboy Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 6997 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 16:10:48 Subject: Re: Can you Take this off the message Board : To: getnj webmaster : Can you take down the picture of Jose and his turn-coat Dem friends? Enough punishment already! Motivated individuals should e-mail pictures. ***************** End Of Article ****************** In his birthday suit posted Message 6998 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 17:11:35 Subject: I have a picture of Jerry Healy : You can say that again. : : : To: getnj webmaster : : Can you take down the picture of Jose and his turn-coat Dem friends? Enough punishment already! ***************** End Of Article ****************** timmy posted Message 6999 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 17:13:28 Subject: Re: Healy's Cry Babies : Their candidate is never sober, is just a puppet for DeGise and Menendez, and all the Healy supporters can do is point fingers at Lou Manzo's brother or an x-Mayor that, let's face it, has more political smarts than the whole Healy crew put together. : And lets not forget that Healy is the Janiszewski candidate. : Yeah, talk all you want about everything but Lou because he is going to clean Healy's clock come election day. That's the real reason all the Healy supporters are crying! THey will have no place to go, except the Astor. Good luck! : : :::Oh, we dont like it when the mud we have been throwing is picked up and thrown back at you. Mommy, mommy the mean old Manzo people are picking on us. bwaahhhhhhhhhh : : : Manzo's people have no response other than to throw mud AGAIN. No wonder the more that people learn about Lou...the less likely they are to vote for him. Lot's of baggage...a convict brother... a convict campaign manager... and we're supposed to trust this guy? Give me a break. : : : : Funny how more than one board is flooded with pure $hit about Lou Manzo and almost nothing about Healy and his Taminy Hall drinking buddies/thugs. Now you put a sign up that makes it look like Kerry, a lying sack of liberal $hit, endorses Healy, a drunken sop. : : : : Keep lying & spinning if it makes you feel better you bunch of DICK heads. You can say Manzo has Mc Can but Healy has Gaughan, DICKson, DeGise and let's not forget, the man who learned at Mc Cans knee - Buddy Boy. : : : : The pot calls the kettle black - whadda joke A$$holes! : : : : : Manzo's people come here blasting Healy for everything except what he decide to have for breakfast. They come here blasting him for putting up a billboard encouraging people to vote for John Kerry for President and Healy for Mayor. Maybe Healy wouldn't have had to buy Billboard Space (which obviously frustrates Manzo) if McCann didn't spend his nights running around tearing down Healy for Mayor signs. : : : : : Manzo plays dirty, and then cries when Healy finds a way to get his message out there anyway. Manzo digs up yesterday's political corpses to run his campaign, and then has the nerve to call Healy "captive" of the machine. Manzo has not talked about one single new idea, and all he does is go around calling Jerry Healy a drunk. : : : : : Manzo has run a lousy campaign and if he will run our city the same way....he DOESN"T DESERVE TO BE MAYOR. Clean up your act Lou, and maybe I'll vote for you. But if the election were today, I would get ILL...pulling a lever for Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** timmy johnson posted Message 7000 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 17:16:05 Subject: manzo mccann manzos got a bunch of cokeheads out campaining for him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Correct Polls posted Message 7001 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 17:21:43 Subject: Manzo leads Healy by 8 points I have seen two polls , Manzo & Doria's Both show Manzo leading Healy by 8 points. Smith and Flood are 3 & 4 respectively trailing Manzo by 18 & 19 points. This is the truth, but you could believe what you want. Manzo will be the Mayor with Healy coming in 2nd losing by about 3,000 to 4,000 votes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HELEN KARNS posted Message 7002 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 20:23:46 Subject: Re: Manzo leads Healy by 8 points :HEALY IS LEADING MANZO BY 8 POINTS THIS IS THE TRUTH MANZO WAS AHEAD BY 10 POINTS 4 WEEKS AGO AND IS NOW SLIPPING FAST. AS USUAL LOU IS PEAKING TO EARLY. IT IS LOOKING LIKE HEALY IS COMING ON STRONGER KEEP AN EYE ON SMITH HE MAY FINISH 2ND . ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMES CONNER posted Message 7003 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 20:34:01 Subject: HEALY BY 8 POINTS JERRAMIAH HEALY IS LEADING BY 8 POINTS AND MOVING UP FAST IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS THIS IS SMITHS POLL RESULTS TAKEN LAST THURSDAY. A NEW POLL WILL BE TAKEN BY LIPSKI THIS WEEK SO HE CAN FIND WHERE HE STANDS IN THIS RACE JERRY HEALY HAS SHOWN A LOT OF STRENGHT SINCE HIS LAST POLL THAT HAD HIM BEHIND BY A WIDE MARGIN. IT IS ONLY 26 DAYS BEFORE ELECTION. LOU NEEDS TO STOP HIS DIRTY CAMPAIGNING WITH MCCANN AND COMPANY TEARING DOWN HEALY SIGNS OFF PRIVATE HOMES AND PUTTING UP SIGNS THAT PEOPLE DONT WANT THIS IS COSTING HIM VOTES WHAT A STUPID MOVE BY HIS WORKERS. THE MUST BE SCARED OF HEALY HE BETTER GET HIS CAMPAIGN BACK ON TRACK IF HE WANTS TO BEAT HEALY WHICH RIGHT NOW IS UNLIKELY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MANZOWATCHER posted Message 7004 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 20:37:15 Subject: NEW POLL BY DORIA HEALY IS LEAVING THE PACK WITH AN 8 POINT ADVANTAGE OVER LOU MANZO. THE BOOKIES ARE GIVING ODDS ON HEALY THE SUPPOSED UNDERDOG. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No Surprise posted Message 7005 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 20:58:17 Subject: Dirty Campaigns always Lose If McManzo had stuck to issues....instead of personal attacks...he could have won. But JC is tired of the BS...tearing down signs....nasty remarks and the rest. So it doesn't surprise me Manzo will lose this time ... again. : :HEALY IS LEADING MANZO BY 8 POINTS THIS IS THE TRUTH MANZO WAS AHEAD BY 10 POINTS 4 WEEKS AGO AND IS NOW SLIPPING FAST. : AS USUAL LOU IS PEAKING TO EARLY. IT IS LOOKING LIKE HEALY IS COMING ON STRONGER KEEP AN EYE ON SMITH HE MAY FINISH 2ND . : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 7006 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 21:06:12 Subject: Willie's in my mail box again ! This is getting tiresome. That stupidly smiling face of Willie Flood was in my mail box again today. Today she was in her summer outfit with the white wide-brim hat; surrounded by all the little children. Can you imagine what a laughing stock this City will be if she somehow becomes Mayor. Sort of like electing Marion Barry. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Awe Be Nice posted Message 7007 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 21:20:18 Subject: Re: Willie's in my mail box again ! But she's a nice lady. She's doin this to show she still has a place at the political table. Nobody thinks she can win. Least of all...her. But you have to commend her for the effort. Run Willie Run!!! : This is getting tiresome. That stupidly smiling face of Willie Flood was in my mail box again today. Today she was in her summer outfit with the white wide-brim hat; surrounded by all the little children. : Can you imagine what a laughing stock this City will be if she somehow becomes Mayor. Sort of like electing Marion Barry. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JC Truth posted Message 7008 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 21:39:38 Subject: I had a Willie too... Not in my mail box but in my toilet bowl! It sure looked like a Willie Flood! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JC Truth posted Message 7009 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 21:41:59 Subject: ManMeat Manzo I have a photo of ManMeat Manzo in his pink tutu too! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HAHAHA posted Message 7010 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 21:53:44 Subject: Re: NEW POLL BY DORIA : HEALY IS LEAVING THE PACK WITH AN 8 POINT DISADVANTAGE OVER LOU MANZO. THE BOOKIES ARE GIVING ODDS ON HEALY THE SUPPOSED UNDERDOG. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JACK DANIELS posted Message 7011 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 22:06:18 Subject: Re: HEALY BY 8 POINTS : JERRAMIAH HEALY IS TRAILING BY 8 POINTS AND MOVING DOWN FAST IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS THIS IS SMITHS POLL RESULTS TAKEN LAST THURSDAY. BUT WHO BELIEVES HIM. HE HAS LIED ABOUT 111 FIRST ST AND THE LOEWS : A NEW POLL WILL BE TAKEN BY LIPSKI THIS WEEK SO HE CAN FIND WHERE HE STANDS IN THIS RACE. IT WILL SHOW THAT THE GATES OPENED AND HES STILL STANDING IN IT. JERRY HEALY HAS SHOWN A LOT OF STRENGHT SINCE HIS LAST POLL THAT HAD HIM BEHIND BY A WIDE MARGIN. HE OWES HIS STRENGHT TO JACK DANIELS. : IT IS ONLY 26 DAYS BEFORE ELECTION. LOU NEEDS TO STOP HIS CAMPAIGNING WITH MCCANN AND COMPANY TEARING DOWN HEALY SIGNS THAT WERE PUT ON PRIVATE HOMES THAT PEOPLE HAD MANZO SIGNS ON.THIS IS IS COSTING HEALY VOTES WHAT A STUPID MOVE BY HIS WORKERS. : THE MUST BE SCARED OF MANZO HE BETTER GET HIS CAMPAIGN BACK ON TRACK IF HE WANTS TO BEAT LOU WHICH RIGHT NOW IS UNLIKELY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 7012 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 22:13:49 Subject: Motley Crue Two First the Dems for Bush photo, now this sleazy assemblage. Give us a break Anthony. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 7013 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2004 at 22:46:31 Subject: Where's Joan ??? See if you can find Joan Eccleston-Young in the picture above. It's sort of like Where's Waldo. Of course, Joan and Larry are like cartoon characters. BTW, who are the Eccleston-Youngs backing, now that their great God Cunningham has croaked ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Easy Way Out posted Message 7014 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 07:21:48 Subject: Menendez sees Manzo the Winner Wants to bring him into the fold.He may have a Xanadu Or Golf Deal for him.HCDO will never change. Its all about Power &money for the inside boys.as long as Menendez is in charge,Jersey City loses. ***************** End Of Article ****************** what about a key to the jailhouse door! posted Message 7015 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 07:31:55 Subject: Re: Menendez sees Manzo the Winner If Kerry wins can Menendez swing a pardon for Ron Manzo? : Wants to bring him into the fold.He may have a Xanadu Or Golf Deal for him.HCDO will never change. Its all about Power &money for the inside boys.as long as Menendez is in charge,Jersey City loses. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gerry, si posted Message 7016 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 07:34:33 Subject: Jerry, no Check out the flyers for Healy. He's standing in front of the old courthouse county building on Newark avenue -- NOT CITY HALL IN JERSEY CITY. Clues you in to who's going to be really running the show if people make a mistake an go for Healy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Astor Bar -New City Hall posted Message 7017 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 07:49:55 Subject: I will drink to that No sense ,No feeling. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7018 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 08:02:14 Subject: Jersey Journal: Another chance for Buonocore Another chance for Buonocore State appeals court agrees to hear his case for spot on mayor ballot Tuesday, October 5, 2004 By Maria Zingaro Conte Journal staff writer A state appeals court has agreed to consider the case of Jersey City Police Chief Ronald Buonocore, who was knocked off the Nov. 2 ballot for mayor by a trial judge who found that he failed to meet the residency requirement to run. Meanwhile, the man who brought the case against Buonocore, state Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who is also a candidate for mayor, is calling for the chief to be fired. . . . To read the complete article, click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** In Memory posted Message 7019 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 08:06:42 Subject: A Vote for Menendez is a vote against Cunningham Glenn cunningham wanted menendez investigated over the xanadu Scam.Dont forget Glenns Memory when you vote. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Duh, Court House , get it? posted Message 7020 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 08:14:10 Subject: Re: The man was a judge and a prosecutor : Check out the flyers for Healy. He's standing in front of the old courthouse county building on Newark avenue -- NOT CITY HALL IN JERSEY CITY. : Clues you in to who's going to be really running the show if people make a mistake an go for Healy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** do you really want me to answer that? posted Message 7021 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 08:38:03 Subject: What sets Lou Manzo apart from the others? Oh, Danny boy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Governor Bret posted Message 7022 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 08:42:50 Subject: Tom Gaynor is warming up in the bullpen Avon -By-The -Sea will be Schundler Country.Thet is the word from the Beach crowd.Sean Connelly is also getting ready for the Big campaign for Honest and decent State government.Can Jed DiMatteo be far behind? ***************** End Of Article ****************** you be the judge posted Message 7023 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 08:43:02 Subject: Re: The man was a judge and a prosecutor Healy was a judge at the municipal court, then on Montgomery street. He was a public defender for Jersey City municipal court. Where was Healy a prosecutor? : : Check out the flyers for Healy. He's standing in front of the old courthouse county building on Newark avenue -- NOT CITY HALL IN JERSEY CITY. : : Clues you in to who's going to be really running the show if people make a mistake an go for Healy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Believer posted Message 7024 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 08:56:32 Subject: WHOA!!!!! That is the most beautiful picture I have seen on this website yet. This goes to show you who Glenn would have supported if he were here. Look at some of the faces that will tell you the story!! Go Willie!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I SEE posted Message 7025 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 08:59:12 Subject: Duh? He's a crook and a TRAITOR!!!!! But all have a reputation except Willie!! He's done!! : Oh, Danny boy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter posted Message 7026 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 09:07:19 Subject: GO WILLIE!!!!!!!!! GO WILLIE!!!!!!!!!!! GO WILLIE!!!!!!!!!! SHE WILL BE MAYOR!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Free us from Willie posted Message 7027 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 09:07:29 Subject: UTN will make more money in One year Then Paul J Byrne made in his life time under Janiszewski.Willie will "SMILE" all the way to the bank also with this gang in chare of Jersey City.God Forbid. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not A Coward posted Message 7028 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 09:17:37 Subject: Re: Willie's in my mail box again ! This is getting tiresome all you guys disrespecting Mrs Flood isn't making anybody's campaign look better. It's making you guys look very racist and uneducated. It's actually making her look good. The more you rag on her the more investigation people will do to verify your stupid opinions. Then they will see that you are just jealous and vendictive and have no basis for these claims. So stop it. You are only hurting yourself. OK devil boy? : This is getting tiresome. That stupidly smiling face of Willie Flood was in my mail box again today. Today she was in her summer outfit with the white wide-brim hat; surrounded by all the little children. : Can you imagine what a laughing stock this City will be if she somehow becomes Mayor. Sort of like electing Marion Barry. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie Flood For Mayor!! posted Message 7029 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 09:19:44 Subject: Stick to the issues instead of disrespecting her. Is that all you can do? Lets talk about it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LMAO posted Message 7030 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 09:22:56 Subject: Re: Dirty Campaigns always Lose Pot meet kettle. : If McManzo had stuck to issues....instead of personal attacks...he could have won. But JC is tired of the BS...tearing down signs....nasty remarks and the rest. So it doesn't surprise me Manzo will lose this time ... again. : : :HEALY IS LEADING MANZO BY 8 POINTS THIS IS THE TRUTH MANZO WAS AHEAD BY 10 POINTS 4 WEEKS AGO AND IS NOW SLIPPING FAST. : : AS USUAL LOU IS PEAKING TO EARLY. IT IS LOOKING LIKE HEALY IS COMING ON STRONGER KEEP AN EYE ON SMITH HE MAY FINISH 2ND . : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Resident posted Message 7031 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 09:23:06 Subject: Can't say she's corrupt, can't say she took kickbacks. What can you say? She smiles alot? Good! We need a down to Earth Mayor who cares! These guys are scared as hell that she is gonna win!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** waiting posted Message 7032 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 09:24:40 Subject: nepotism Tom DeGise had the cojones to enter this "cesspool" to defend himself against false charges. Frequent accusations of nepotism have appeared in this forum directed against Bill Gaughan. If he is above defending himself in this forum, how about a letter to the Jersey Journal or another medium. In this case, silence is an admission that he is guilty. No presumption of innocence applies. Do both his daughters and his son in law draw county/city salaries and benefits or not? If so, what do they do? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prove It posted Message 7033 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 09:28:00 Subject: Prove these stupid allegations!!!!! Without talking about her smiling. And show me the proof!!! : Then Paul J Byrne made in his life time under Janiszewski.Willie will "SMILE" all the way to the bank also with this gang in chare of Jersey City.God Forbid. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Remember posted Message 7034 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 09:34:11 Subject: Remember the last time willie ran for mayor She could not account for all her campaign spending. And all those missing campaign jackets.I remember"Smiling Willie". ***************** End Of Article ****************** This has been going on. posted Message 7035 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 09:35:11 Subject: The people of jersey City knew it that's why he lost the race for Mayor. This is one of the reasons why we don't want Manzo, Healy, or Uncle Harvey to win. None of them have any loyalty or integrety. They are self serving politicians. : Tom DeGise had the cojones to enter this "cesspool" to defend himself against false charges. Frequent accusations of nepotism have appeared in this forum directed against Bill Gaughan. If he is above defending himself in this forum, how about a letter to the Jersey Journal or another medium. In this case, silence is an admission that he is guilty. No presumption of innocence applies. Do both his daughters and his son in law draw county/city salaries and benefits or not? If so, what do they do? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 7036 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 09:41:50 Subject: I do remember. She would have won if Joe Charles didn't take the bribe and split the black votes!! He got in a race 30 min before the deadline. He almost fell running to the County Clerk's office. I saw him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Secret deal posted Message 7037 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 09:59:41 Subject: What secret deal did Willie make with menendez for money? Now i know why she is always smiling.Its greed.baby. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Russell Simmons posted Message 7038 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 10:22:39 Subject: LOL!!!! You should quit your day job and be a comedian!!! That's funny. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cousin posted Message 7039 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 10:25:25 Subject: You can say that again!!!!! Exactly. : Glenn cunningham wanted menendez investigated over the xanadu Scam.Dont forget Glenns Memory when you vote. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Never posted Message 7040 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 10:31:03 Subject: Re: Harvey is a thorn in this City's side. Holy crap are you serious? I did see a Healy truck in ward f yesterday. : :::He was seen in Healy's Central Ave. HQ. A match made in heaven. : : Harvey is an evil man who can't run the city. He works for Manzo. : : : : : : Willie, elections are about getting the most votes. Now you are not going to out vote Harvey, however you and Harvey could make it a interesting race, maybe the two together can even win. : : : Its that what's it all about winning, not trying to kill a potential ally. : : : : : : : I'll take Gadsden, Pine or Mansour over any of these others. Vote for the devil that you don't know instead of the devil that you do! : : : : : And who is this other puppet in the race Gadsen. Dosen't he know that this is no time for a college experiment. Or better yet who paid him to get in the election? Uncle harvey? Fruitboy Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Things that make you go HMMMM,Jr. posted Message 7041 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 10:41:51 Subject: Someone knew McGreevy was going to get exposed. It all makes sense now. They knew Glenn would have been a frontrunner for the Governor's seat. So they had to poision him. It's kinda fishy though. Glenn dies, Doria takes his seat back (fat bastard) then McGreevy is ousted because he is Gay. Come on, you can't make this stuff up. These "POWER POLITICIANS" had the three M's in their favor. Money, Motives, and Means. Makes you go hmmm. (this is MY opinion) Maybe its true, maybe not but the facts are in plain sight. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Smile posted Message 7042 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 10:48:49 Subject: Cunningham wanted menendez investigated Willie wont comment on Menendez,Why?All she does is smile,Scary. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Time for the Newspapers to Expose this Abuse posted Message 7043 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 10:54:58 Subject: Re: nepotism - DeGise and Gaughan Trade Marks You don't think DeGise and Gaughan are going to defend their actions of putting family members on the payroll, because its in-defenseable! Sweet deals (at taxpayer expense) to get elderly family members into St. Joseph's Home for the Blind. We need the Jersey Journal, Reporter and the Star Ledger to do an expose on this naked abuse of the taxpayers of Hudson COunty. Lets see DeGise defend this practice when he tries to get re-elected. That ought to be fun. He's going to take a lot of heat, can he take it? : Tom DeGise had the cojones to enter this "cesspool" to defend himself against false charges. Frequent accusations of nepotism have appeared in this forum directed against Bill Gaughan. If he is above defending himself in this forum, how about a letter to the Jersey Journal or another medium. In this case, silence is an admission that he is guilty. No presumption of innocence applies. Do both his daughters and his son in law draw county/city salaries and benefits or not? If so, what do they do? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lost in the Sauce posted Message 7044 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 10:57:58 Subject: Re: The man had his day Boy, he's really fallen hard and fast. Too bad. : Healy was a judge at the municipal court, then on Montgomery street. He was a public defender for Jersey City municipal court. Where was Healy a prosecutor? : : : Check out the flyers for Healy. He's standing in front of the old courthouse county building on Newark avenue -- NOT CITY HALL IN JERSEY CITY. : : : Clues you in to who's going to be really running the show if people make a mistake an go for Healy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Its Worth Some Votes posted Message 7045 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 11:02:23 Subject: Harvey Sits in the Mayors Chair In a ten man race, every vote counts. Successful politicians put their personal differences aside inorder to win. Politicans who are out for blood may get it but not win the election. You got to decide whats more important. : Bill Clinton called it a "contact sport" in his book...he's never campaigned here...it's a full out blood assault. Disgraceful! : : Willie, elections are about getting the most votes. Now you are not going to out vote Harvey, however you and Harvey could make it a interesting race, maybe the two together can even win. : : Its that what's it all about winning, not trying to kill a potential ally. : : : : : I'll take Gadsden, Pine or Mansour over any of these others. Vote for the devil that you don't know instead of the devil that you do! : : : : And who is this other puppet in the race Gadsen. Dosen't he know that this is no time for a college experiment. Or better yet who paid him to get in the election? Uncle harvey? Fruitboy Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Evil Queen posted Message 7046 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 11:03:47 Subject: Yes, I did it !!! I gave Glenn a poison apple ... right after I gave one to Snow White. ***************** End Of Article ****************** We Want Willie!!! posted Message 7047 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 11:04:25 Subject: We are focused on the people of Jersey City. They are FIRST. We don't need to comment. Everyone who is doing wrong will eventually slip up and convict themselves or tell on eachother. S : Willie wont comment on Menendez,Why?All she does is smile,Scary. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince Vailiant posted Message 7048 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 11:08:11 Subject: The truth comes out in jokes!! Remember that. : I gave Glenn a poison apple ... right after I gave one to Snow White. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince Vailiant posted Message 7048 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 11:08:12 Subject: The truth comes out in jokes!! Remember that. : I gave Glenn a poison apple ... right after I gave one to Snow White. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 7049 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 11:10:21 Subject: Willie Bashing Gotta love it !!! Bwahahahahahahahaha !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lucretia Borgia posted Message 7050 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 11:13:51 Subject: I beg to differ. You may have given Glenn a poison apple ... but I poisoned his ribs from The Real Deal first !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Money posted Message 7051 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 11:21:44 Subject: The more money willie gets from Menendez The wider the smile. Get it ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say What u want. posted Message 7052 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 11:35:24 Subject: Real intelligent devil boy. Keep hurting yourself. : Gotta love it !!! : Bwahahahahahahahaha !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get a life!! posted Message 7053 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 11:38:55 Subject: Whooooooooooo Yes the Real Deal Bar-B-Cue best ribs in town with that succulent down home sauce. The ad is on the side. Come on in. I recommend the fried shrimp! : You may have given Glenn a poison apple ... but I poisoned his ribs from The Real Deal first !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HSADGAFGJ posted Message 7054 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 11:59:39 Subject: Re: The man had his day : YOU SOUND LIKE AN IDOIT!! Healy an assistant Hudson County Prosecuter where he prosecuted drug dealers murderers and violent criminals. He was also a chief judge!! But no lets not vote for Jerry Healy we cant make that mistake!! lets keep letting crooks run our city who needs an honest man with brains!!you really should think before you post nonsense!! Go Healy!1 HEALY !!!!IN NOV AND MAY@!!!!!!!!1 ***************** End Of Article ****************** HSADGAFGJ posted Message 7054 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 11:59:42 Subject: Re: The man had his day : YOU SOUND LIKE AN IDOIT!! Healy an assistant Hudson County Prosecuter where he prosecuted drug dealers murderers and violent criminals. He was also a chief judge!! But no lets not vote for Jerry Healy we cant make that mistake!! lets keep letting crooks run our city who needs an honest man with brains!!you really should think before you post nonsense!! Go Healy!1 HEALY !!!!IN NOV AND MAY@!!!!!!!!1 ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth posted Message 7055 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 12:00:37 Subject: Excuse me but her last name is Flood not Deguise Dont get confused!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth posted Message 7056 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 12:00:47 Subject: Excuse me but her last name is Flood not Deguise Dont get confused!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kill the megaphone! posted Message 7057 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 12:17:13 Subject: Flipski and his Paddy wagon... Hey Steve, if you love JC so much, why are you giving us noise pollution? If you want to go on tour, go west young man! You'll go much farther! ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 7058 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 12:20:16 Subject: Mr. Willie Flood to make an apperance on South Park. Wille will stand in as Mr. Hankie. I didn't know Wille knew how to act. Willie is such a nice guy and I wish him well. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Things that make you go HMMMM, Sr. posted Message 7059 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 12:24:45 Subject: Re: Someone knew McGreevy was going to get exposed. Conspiracy theories and not a shred of truth in any of it. First of all...Glenn would not have been the frontrunner for the Governorship. He was relatively unknown statewide. As far as poisoning...the man had a heart attack due to a high fat diet and lack of exercise. Doria took his seat back because he was the most qualified person when the votes by the committeemembers were taken. Lastly, McGreevey didn't resign because he is gay. Being gay does not make one less able to run a state. He resigned in the midst of a scandal that involved an extramarital affair with a staff person that was not qualified for the job to which he was appointed. This would have also been the case had the affair been heterosexual. Your "facts" are just wrong so I don't advise anyone give them much credence. You may continue to believe them if you wish. : It all makes sense now. They knew Glenn would have been a frontrunner for the Governor's seat. So they had to poision him. It's kinda fishy though. Glenn dies, Doria takes his seat back (fat bastard) then McGreevy is ousted because he is Gay. Come on, you can't make this stuff up. These "POWER POLITICIANS" had the three M's in their favor. Money, Motives, and Means. Makes you go hmmm. (this is MY opinion) Maybe its true, maybe not but the facts are in plain sight. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Crabtree posted Message 7060 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 12:36:26 Subject: Excuse me ... It's DEGISE not DEGUISE. Put on your dunce cap and sit in the corner. ***************** End Of Article ****************** How About Tom DeGise and his Band! posted Message 7061 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 12:38:31 Subject: Re: The man had his day- ANd whose support did Healy elicit? None other than Tom DeGise the man who is making Bobby J look like an alter boy! : : YOU SOUND LIKE AN IDOIT!! Healy an assistant Hudson County Prosecuter where he prosecuted drug dealers murderers and violent criminals. He was also a chief judge!! But no lets not vote for Jerry Healy we cant make that mistake!! lets keep letting crooks run our city who needs an honest man with brains!!you really should think before you post nonsense!! Go Healy!1 : HEALY !!!!IN NOV AND MAY@!!!!!!!!1 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Nick Riviera posted Message 7062 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 12:40:21 Subject: Real Deal Bar-B-Cue Guaranteed to give you a heart attack. Look at Glenn. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 7063 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 12:42:21 Subject: We're on the Highway to Hell !!! We'll be traveling in the fast lane if Willie is elected. Bwahahahahahahahaha !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Breaking News More at 3:00!! posted Message 7064 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 12:43:53 Subject: Heard through the grapevine Ron Bon is to support Harvey if he can keep his JOB. Just heard that they are waiting to see what happens with the appeal. If he can't run he will make a deal probably. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Eric Cartman posted Message 7065 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 12:44:37 Subject: Willie would make a ..... good love interest for Chef. He likes em smiley and stupid. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Breaking News More at 3:00!! posted Message 7066 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 12:49:40 Subject: Heard through the grapevine Ron Bon is to support Harvey if he can keep his JOB. Just heard that they are waiting to see what happens with the appeal. If he can't run he will make a deal probably. ***************** End Of Article ****************** up yours! posted Message 7067 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 13:04:29 Subject: Re: Heard through the grapevine Ron Bon is to support Harvey if he can keep his JOB. Stop it! Enought! There is no deal, the only deal being made is Lou Manzo with the D.A. to turn state witness and stay out of Jail!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** News12 posted Message 7068 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 13:17:08 Subject: Court Reversal! The Federal court has just reversed the Superior Court ruling against Mr. Buonocore's eligibility to run in the special election. Mr. Buonocore is back on the election trail. A federal investigation is being launched into possible corruption charges against the Manzo team and Court oficials. This and more, news at 5. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Got It Wrong posted Message 7069 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 13:32:40 Subject: Re: Court Reversal! My Foot! The state appeals court is considering the motion, not Federal Court. Sorry! : The Federal court has just reversed the Superior Court ruling against Mr. Buonocore's eligibility to run in the special election. Mr. Buonocore is back on the election trail. A federal investigation is being launched into possible corruption charges against the Manzo team and Court oficials. This and more, news at 5. ***************** End Of Article ****************** enrich your vocabularly posted Message 7070 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 13:34:27 Subject: That's degisting! Degist verb, intransitive To perform an unsavory action, particularly by a government official. Derived from Tom Degise, Hudson County executive whose administration was notorious for padded payrolls, nepotism, and pay to play contracts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Its worth anything posted Message 7071 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 13:34:48 Subject: Ron The Cons Endorsement If ron the cons appeal fails his endorsement isn't worth anything. He would probably s_uck up to Harvey so he can keep his job. : Just heard that they are waiting to see what happens with the appeal. If he can't run he will make a deal probably. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's right posted Message 7072 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 14:06:36 Subject: Re: Heard through the grapevine Ron Bon is to support Harvey if he can keep his JOB. :::When you have nothing resort to personal attacks. : Stop it! Enought! There is no deal, the only deal being made is Lou Manzo with the D.A. to turn state witness and stay out of Jail!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not bad, I like it. posted Message 7073 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 14:08:42 Subject: Re: That's degisting! : Degist : verb, intransitive : To perform an unsavory action, particularly by a government official. : Derived from Tom Degise, Hudson County executive whose administration was notorious for padded payrolls, nepotism, and pay to play contracts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7074 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 15:00:05 Subject: No ruling on Buonocore I just spoke with Buonocore's press contact, David Vermillion. Due to a delay in receiving paperwork, the judge has not yet issued a decision. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr Hankie posted Message 7075 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 15:55:39 Subject: Just did a Willie Oh man after a big meal I just came from the bathroom. It brought tears of pain and joy to my eyes when I saw how much it looked like Willie Flood.! All it needed was some silly white hat and poster of Glen! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kenny posted Message 7076 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 16:06:30 Subject: Whooooooooooooooo! How long did u take to think up that one? J e r k o f f! : good love interest for Chef. He likes em smiley and stupid. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 7077 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 16:08:18 Subject: Either way you spell it it still says CROOK! Can u spell that? Good. He's gonna put on his jail suit and sit in JAIL. How bout that? : It's DEGISE not DEGUISE. : Put on your dunce cap and sit in the corner. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Whatever posted Message 7078 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 16:11:21 Subject: Those are your facts these are mine. You are full of $hit!!!! : Conspiracy theories and not a shred of truth in any of it. : First of all...Glenn would not have been the frontrunner for the Governorship. He was relatively unknown statewide. As far as poisoning...the man had a heart attack due to a high fat diet and lack of exercise. : Doria took his seat back because he was the most qualified person when the votes by the committeemembers were taken. : Lastly, McGreevey didn't resign because he is gay. Being gay does not make one less able to run a state. He resigned in the midst of a scandal that involved an extramarital affair with a staff person that was not qualified for the job to which he was appointed. This would have also been the case had the affair been heterosexual. : Your "facts" are just wrong so I don't advise anyone give them much credence. You may continue to believe them if you wish. : : It all makes sense now. They knew Glenn would have been a frontrunner for the Governor's seat. So they had to poision him. It's kinda fishy though. Glenn dies, Doria takes his seat back (fat bastard) then McGreevy is ousted because he is Gay. Come on, you can't make this stuff up. These "POWER POLITICIANS" had the three M's in their favor. Money, Motives, and Means. Makes you go hmmm. (this is MY opinion) Maybe its true, maybe not but the facts are in plain sight. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Quiet Man posted Message 7079 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 16:14:56 Subject: Let Glenn Rest in Peace!!! Stop trying to use him for gain. We all know that Willie is the only candidate who truly worked with him and deserves to continue the legacy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 7080 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 16:29:59 Subject: Glenn's Legacy Some legacy !!! Corrupt and inefficient City government. Higher crime rates. Racial hatred and political division. Dirty unpaved streets. Thanks Glenn. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Eric Cartman posted Message 7081 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 16:33:45 Subject: About 2 seconds. As they say .. if the shoe fits ... ***************** End Of Article ****************** As I said... posted Message 7082 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 16:36:11 Subject: Re: Those are your facts these are mine. Your "facts" are just wrong so I don't advise anyone give them much credence. You may continue to believe them if you wish. You had to get nasty so I guess that I struck a nerve! LOL!!!! : You are full of $hit!!!! : : Conspiracy theories and not a shred of truth in any of it. : : First of all...Glenn would not have been the frontrunner for the Governorship. He was relatively unknown statewide. As far as poisoning...the man had a heart attack due to a high fat diet and lack of exercise. : : Doria took his seat back because he was the most qualified person when the votes by the committeemembers were taken. : : Lastly, McGreevey didn't resign because he is gay. Being gay does not make one less able to run a state. He resigned in the midst of a scandal that involved an extramarital affair with a staff person that was not qualified for the job to which he was appointed. This would have also been the case had the affair been heterosexual. : : Your "facts" are just wrong so I don't advise anyone give them much credence. You may continue to believe them if you wish. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jimmy K posted Message 7083 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 17:24:51 Subject: Budnick campaigning on County Time How can Marty Budnick hang political signs on County Time with his County vehicle. Didn't he cost the taxpayers enough with that sexual harrassment charge a couple of years ago. How can DeGise / Gaughan allow this blood-su3ker to continue to su3k the taxpayers dry??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Grow up posted Message 7084 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 18:42:22 Subject: Re: Court Reversal! Unbelieveable. : The Federal court has just reversed the Superior Court ruling against Mr. Buonocore's eligibility to run in the special election. Mr. Buonocore is back on the election trail. A federal investigation is being launched into possible corruption charges against the Manzo team and Court oficials. This and more, news at 5. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Because He's in the Crew posted Message 7085 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 18:53:21 Subject: Re: Budnick campaigning on County Time Budnick is a good soldier to the Don, Tom DeGise. As long as he keeps kissing DeGise's ring he's got a free ride. It doesn;t matter that any type of campaign activity is against the law. DeGise has nothing but contempt for the law. Like nepotism. He loves adding family members to the county payroll. His relatives alone will bankrupt the county. : How can Marty Budnick hang political signs on County Time with his County vehicle. : Didn't he cost the taxpayers enough with that sexual harrassment charge a couple of years ago. : How can DeGise / Gaughan allow this blood-su3ker to continue to su3k the taxpayers dry??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Its Over! posted Message 7086 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 18:54:33 Subject: Re: No ruling on Buonocore Ron the Con is history. The judge is just trying to let him down easy. : I just spoke with Buonocore's press contact, David Vermillion. Due to a delay in receiving paperwork, the judge has not yet issued a decision. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's the Truth posted Message 7087 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 18:58:31 Subject: Re: That's degisting! DeGise can't even face the truth anymore. He posted a message last week on this board saying he wouldn;t be back, in response to a message asking him to explain how all his family members are getting enriched by the County in one capacity or the other. What;s the line by Jack Nicholson, 'You Can't Handle the Truth! Watch the worm squirm. : Degist : verb, intransitive : To perform an unsavory action, particularly by a government official. : Derived from Tom Degise, Hudson County executive whose administration was notorious for padded payrolls, nepotism, and pay to play contracts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** For Good Reason posted Message 7088 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 19:00:33 Subject: Re: Cunningham wanted menendez investigated Its only a matter of time before the HCDO house of cards comes tumbling down. : Willie wont comment on Menendez,Why?All she does is smile,Scary. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Time for a Overhaul posted Message 7089 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 19:03:23 Subject: I need a new Willie! : Gotta love it !!! : Bwahahahahahahahaha !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Were Back posted Message 7090 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 19:13:58 Subject: Homophobes for Healy Can all the Willie Flood fans stop posting messages. We need to get back to the real issue in this campaign. We don;t like gay people, especially Lou Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** say it aint so posted Message 7091 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 19:42:59 Subject: Re: nepotism : Tom DeGise had the cojones to enter this "cesspool" to defend himself against false charges. Frequent accusations of nepotism have appeared in this forum directed against Bill Gaughan. If he is above defending himself in this forum, how about a letter to the Jersey Journal or another medium. In this case, silence is an admission that he is guilty. No presumption of innocence applies. Do both his daughters and his son in law draw county/city salaries and benefits or not? If so, what do they do? Come on Bill. Defend yourself. Tell them your daughter doesn't get 15k salary plus benefits to be your aide and does absolutely nothing. Come on Jimmy defend the pack. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Put a sock in it posted Message 7092 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 20:13:36 Subject: Re: Zenophobes for Healy We don;t like people, especially Lou Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise the Coward posted Message 7093 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 20:29:33 Subject: Re: nepotism DeGise fully supports nepotism, his own sister is on the take, so do you think he is against it? Never! Its the next best thing to No-Bid Contracts. Why is DeGise in love with Union County consultants? : : Tom DeGise had the cojones to enter this "cesspool" to defend himself against false charges. Frequent accusations of nepotism have appeared in this forum directed against Bill Gaughan. If he is above defending himself in this forum, how about a letter to the Jersey Journal or another medium. In this case, silence is an admission that he is guilty. No presumption of innocence applies. Do both his daughters and his son in law draw county/city salaries and benefits or not? If so, what do they do? : : Come on Bill. Defend yourself. Tell them your daughter doesn't get 15k salary plus benefits to be your aide and does absolutely nothing. Come on Jimmy defend the pack. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakaty Tata posted Message 7094 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 20:47:45 Subject: The famous Sandy Cunningham The former first Lady will endorse the Honorable LOU MANZO, after a get together in Chapel Ave.with the brains of the legacy Willie Flood now is with out Manzo's money and the great support of the joe's .and bobbie's. So Sandy preferd Manzo over Lady smile Flood no surprise after Bonacure............... ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 7095 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 21:00:08 Subject: jimmyk : How can Marty Budnick hang political signs on County Time with his County vehicle. : Didn't he cost the taxpayers enough with that sexual harrassment charge a couple of years ago. : How can DeGise / Gaughan allow this blood-su3ker to continue to su3k the taxpayers dry??? TALK ABOUT THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK YOU ARE DONE 10/29/04 SEE YOU IN NEWARK cc;AG GO ABM;;;;;; ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 7096 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 22:15:19 Subject: Re: jimmyk Please baby, im beggin you. The beer is cold. Please come home and leave the Manzo signs in the car. : : How can Marty Budnick hang political signs on County Time with his County vehicle. : : Didn't he cost the taxpayers enough with that sexual harrassment charge a couple of years ago. : : How can DeGise / Gaughan allow this blood-su3ker to continue to su3k the taxpayers dry??? : TALK ABOUT THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK YOU ARE DONE 10/29/04 SEE YOU IN NEWARK cc;AG GO ABM;;;;;; ***************** End Of Article ****************** toogay posted Message 7097 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 22:47:32 Subject: Re: The famous Sandy Cunningham the gold digger Sandy Cunningham is supporting Wille Flood. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ron Mattinello posted Message 7098 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 23:18:47 Subject: THANKS GOD WE HAVE DICK I'm a democrat , but this November we have to vote for Cheney he is the soul of our goverment he is better than Kerry Edwards and even Bush. The democratic party is totally out of touch. ***************** End Of Article ****************** bobby j posted Message 7099 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 23:18:53 Subject: steve basil : HE WILL TESTIFY AS RED FLYER STATED YOU ARE DONE AS OF 10/29 /04 YOU ARE DONE CC;MRS KING? ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE COUNTY XPRESS posted Message 7100 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 23:28:01 Subject: THANKS TO JERSEY CITY WE HAVE A CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR THAT LIKES TO BE NAKED HA HA AHAHAH........HEY HE WAS ....THE BEER WAS TO HOT IF HE WIN THE NAKED SHOW PAID BY TOMMY,BILLY AND KERRY WITH EDWARDS THE NEXT .............OUT OUT OF THE CLOSED VICE ..... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get a Clue posted Message 7101 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 05, 2004 at 23:36:07 Subject: Re: Ugly Teardrop Supporters Sir you are a carpet bagger sleaze bag who has no clue what he is talking about. Your mother should have douched you out of her Vulva : I never said it didn't have supporters. Supporters like the corrupt UTN/Cunningham crew. And of course, the leader or the Ugly Teardrop's promotional campaign, mister sleaze himself, Anthony Grazioso. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Like Dick? posted Message 7102 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 00:41:51 Subject: Re: THANKS GOD WE HAVE DICK Dick likes you too sweetie. : I'm a democrat , but this November we have to vote for : Cheney he is the soul of our goverment he is better than Kerry Edwards and even Bush. The democratic party is : totally out of touch. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 7103 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 06:27:57 Subject: Re: steve basil :::Baby, ya gotta stop makin' up all these names and puttin' all this stuff in the computer. Its the beer I tell ya. its made your head go soft. But I love you with all my heart and the beer will always be cold. Come home baby and leave the Manzo signs in the car. : : HE WILL TESTIFY AS RED FLYER STATED YOU ARE DONE AS OF 10/29 /04 YOU ARE DONE CC;MRS KING? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Secret Deal posted Message 7104 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 07:19:04 Subject: Menendez and Willie Flood We will all find out about the secret deal betwween Menendez and Willie Flood after the Election.Menendez has sure fooled a lot of people on this one. Sad but True.Money And power will drive these two to do anything.Hang on jersey City taxpayers.You are going for a ride. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sellouts posted Message 7105 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 07:48:49 Subject: Who will be the first to sellout their Candidate? Some names that come to mind are -James King-Joan Young-Freda-Corcorans-Buonocore-Booths-Turo-Arango---Sobel-Flipski-Bobby Jackson--Williams-- Roger Jones-Vega-The whole parking authority workforce.Ward C club members- Can you name some more for this list. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not a Clue posted Message 7106 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 08:08:52 Subject: Running For Mayor and you dont have a clue Smile-It always works for me.They will always remember me as the smiling Mayor .Who doesnt have a Clue to what is going on. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Merger posted Message 7107 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 08:40:39 Subject: Menendez & Xanadu merge with Flood &UTN There is money and power in this game of scams.You got to be in it to win it.Jersey City comes in last in these Mergers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** happy and healthy posted Message 7108 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 08:42:26 Subject: Gaughan's Irish for McGreevey Now that the liberated James McGreevey is moving to Jersey City, will he join Bill Gaughan's club? I always was so envious of the Jimmy King Association's jackets. I think that the Irish for McGreevey should have pink and green plaid berets. So, there! You can all be jealous of us! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The tape is running posted Message 7109 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 08:49:08 Subject: James King caught on tape selling $1,000 donations from Parking Authority Workers.He tells them he is coming back in Charge of the Parking authority and he has a long memory.This time King is caught on tape. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say what??? posted Message 7110 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 08:56:00 Subject: Re: Gaughan's Irish for McGreevey Is this confirmed that McGreevey is moving to Jersey City? If so, where is he moving...the waterfront? : Now that the liberated James McGreevey is moving to Jersey City, will he join Bill Gaughan's club? : I always was so envious of the Jimmy King Association's jackets. I think that the Irish for McGreevey should have pink and green plaid berets. So, there! You can all be jealous of us! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO Observer posted Message 7111 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 09:07:31 Subject: Gaughan, DeGise & HCDO Have Already Sold Out The first to sell any one mayoral candidate out were Bill Gaughan & Tom DeGise. They ran Smith for Senate and gave him no support, then they put Smith in as interim Mayor and switched their support to Healy. Proving once again that the HCDO is only interested in puppet candidates, not those who think on their own. Disappointing but not surprising. Probably better for Harvey in the long run because who wants to be tied to the corrupt HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nude Picture posted Message 7112 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 09:08:47 Subject: Why does McCann carry Healy picture with Him? Is this relationship serious? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7113 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 09:11:55 Subject: Last I heard is that Frmr. Governor James E. McGreevey will reside in the Paulus Hook section of Jersey City -- sans Dina. Last I heard is that Frmr. Governor James E. McGreevey will reside in the Paulus Hook section of Jersey City -- sans Dina. Y'know, if they McGreevey lets them put cameras in his new digs, it'd make one hell of a reality show! I hope he jumps right in and gets involved in politics here! Just think of the possibilities! Another Schundler vs. McGreevey match, this time for Mayor of Jersey City! McGreevey running for County Executive! Congressman Bob thought that Fulop was a pain? Just imagine McGreevey running for Congress! Can you see him up in WNY shaking hands accompanied by Albio Sires. : Is this confirmed that McGreevey is moving to Jersey City? If so, where is he moving...the waterfront? : : Now that the liberated James McGreevey is moving to Jersey City, will he join Bill Gaughan's club? : : I always was so envious of the Jimmy King Association's jackets. I think that the Irish for McGreevey should have pink and green plaid berets. So, there! You can all be jealous of us! ***************** End Of Article ****************** guffaw posted Message 7114 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 09:36:21 Subject: Re: Budnick campaigning on County Time : How can Marty Budnick hang political signs on County Time with his County vehicle. : Didn't he cost the taxpayers enough with that sexual harrassment charge a couple of years ago. : How can DeGise / Gaughan allow this blood-su3ker to continue to su3k the taxpayers dry??? ::::Jimmy the leach King lecturing on ethics? Too much to say right now. Have to go to work. Much, much more to follow. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Better yet posted Message 7115 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 09:36:54 Subject: Re: Last I heard is that Frmr. Governor James E. McGreevey will reside in the Paulus Hook section of Jersey City -- sans Dina. Buonocore's appeal ruling is that he can run for mayor despite not being a resident for a year and McGreevey jumps into the May mayoral race! All heck would break loose!!! : Last I heard is that Frmr. Governor James E. McGreevey will reside in the Paulus Hook section of Jersey City -- sans Dina. : Y'know, if they McGreevey lets them put cameras in his new digs, it'd make one hell of a reality show! : I hope he jumps right in and gets involved in politics here! Just think of the possibilities! Another Schundler vs. McGreevey match, this time for Mayor of Jersey City! McGreevey running for County Executive! Congressman Bob thought that Fulop was a pain? Just imagine McGreevey running for Congress! Can you see him up in WNY shaking hands accompanied by Albio Sires. : : Is this confirmed that McGreevey is moving to Jersey City? If so, where is he moving...the waterfront? : : : Now that the liberated James McGreevey is moving to Jersey City, will he join Bill Gaughan's club? : : : I always was so envious of the Jimmy King Association's jackets. I think that the Irish for McGreevey should have pink and green plaid berets. So, there! You can all be jealous of us! ***************** End Of Article ****************** How HCDO Gays Cam Come Out of the Closet posted Message 7116 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 09:39:59 Subject: McGreevey's Gay Consulting Business McGreevey's going to consult with Tom DeGise and his gay band of boy friends how to come out of the closet. Gaughan will be an assistant. How many jobs can you hold Bill? : Now that the liberated James McGreevey is moving to Jersey City, will he join Bill Gaughan's club? : I always was so envious of the Jimmy King Association's jackets. I think that the Irish for McGreevey should have pink and green plaid berets. So, there! You can all be jealous of us! ***************** End Of Article ****************** To Show It to the Un-decided Voters posted Message 7117 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 09:41:48 Subject: Re: Why does McCann carry Healy picture with Him? Nothing like, well, the naked truth to convince those voters why they should or should not vote for Healy. : Is this relationship serious? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7118 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 09:46:20 Subject: Fibber McGreevey's Closet : Buonocore's appeal ruling is that he can run for mayor despite not being a resident for a year and McGreevey jumps into the May mayoral race! All heck would break loose!!! : : Last I heard is that Frmr. Governor James E. McGreevey will reside in the Paulus Hook section of Jersey City -- sans Dina. : : Y'know, if they McGreevey lets them put cameras in his new digs, it'd make one hell of a reality show! : : I hope he jumps right in and gets involved in politics here! Just think of the possibilities! Another Schundler vs. McGreevey match, this time for Mayor of Jersey City! McGreevey running for County Executive! Congressman Bob thought that Fulop was a pain? Just imagine McGreevey running for Congress! Can you see him up in WNY shaking hands accompanied by Albio Sires. : : : Is this confirmed that McGreevey is moving to Jersey City? If so, where is he moving...the waterfront? : : : : Now that the liberated James McGreevey is moving to Jersey City, will he join Bill Gaughan's club? : : : : I always was so envious of the Jimmy King Association's jackets. I think that the Irish for McGreevey should have pink and green plaid berets. So, there! You can all be jealous of us! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 7119 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 09:52:39 Subject: There goes the neighborhood !!! As if there weren't enough crackpots in Paulus Hook !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wassa Matter Jim? posted Message 7120 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 09:52:49 Subject: McGreevey Moving to Schundler's Waterfront Why don't you stay in Woodbridge where you were Mayor for all those years? Did you fail to develop Woodbridge into a City that you'd want to live in? That's okay, you can come to Jersey City's golden shore built by Bret Schundler. Anyway, Bill Gaughan & Tom DeGise will be there with the welcome wagon. They can't wait to have another corrupt politician join their beloved machine! Degise & Gaughan screwed Bret & gave us Jim. A big round of applause, what a great governor they gave us. I'm getting all teary eyed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** dadd posted Message 7121 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 09:59:10 Subject: Re: Gaughan's Irish for McGreevey : Now that the liberated James McGreevey is moving to Jersey City, will he join Bill Gaughan's club? : I always was so envious of the Jimmy King Association's jackets. I think that the Irish for McGreevey should have pink and green plaid berets. So, there! You can all be jealous of us! ::::How many Gaughan/Dicksons does it take to change a light bulb? All of them, apparently, but they never show up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 7122 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 10:17:32 Subject: If Menendez likes Willie Flood Then I do also.I know who butters my bread. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Broken Promise posted Message 7123 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 10:35:26 Subject: What happened to Nancy Gaynor Job? She is spending too much time on the beach.Lets make her work.Bring her back to ward C.Its gone straight down hill since she left us. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Eyes on the County posted Message 7124 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 10:45:47 Subject: Blind Gate II Blind Gate [Definition] Blind Gate is for people who have political influence to receive a special exemption for elderly family members to gain entry into St. Joseph's Home for the Blind. There is a system of political influence exerted by the DeGise Administration of breaking the rules and jumping ahead of all others on the waiting list. And this influence is not limited to just Tom DeGise's mother. County insider Anthony Amabile and his partner, Bette Spinelli, successful got Spinelli's late mother into St. Joseph's as well. The Amabile-Spinelli team rake in over $300,000 per year in county pay and contracts. You would think they would have given up the perk of getting Spenelli's mothers into St. Josephs ahead of the average working family. The only good guy on the DeGise Spinelli team is Councilmen Bill Gaughan who recently raised over $50,000 for our beloved St. Josephs. Gaughan 'walks with Jesus'. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Justanothervoter posted Message 7125 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 11:12:32 Subject: Re: Glenn's Legacy : Some legacy !!! : Corrupt and inefficient City government. Higher crime rates. Racial hatred and political division. Dirty unpaved streets. : Thanks Glenn. Glenn was a great Jersey City man!!!! He left us too soon!!! It's too bad he had to fight the council except Ms. Richardson and Mr. Lipski, who also has the right to Glenn's Legacy. However this race is about Jersey City's Mayor not Glenn's Legacy and Mr. Lipski is the best canidate for the job! ***************** End Of Article ****************** IHATELOUMANZO posted Message 7126 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 11:17:05 Subject: Re: The famous Sandy Cunningham : The former first Lady will endorse the Honorable LOU MANZO, after a get together in Chapel Ave.with the brains : of the legacy Willie Flood now is with out Manzo's money : and the great support of the joe's .and bobbie's. : So Sandy preferd Manzo over Lady smile Flood no surprise : after Bonacure............... LOU MANZO MAKES ME SICK!!!! HES A CORRUPT POLITICAN AND SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH WORSE PEOPLE THAN HIM. FROM GERALD MCCANN TO DANIEL MCMANN!!! IF HE WINS JERSEY CITY WILL BE F*CKED!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** IHATELOUMANZO posted Message 7127 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 11:23:48 Subject: Re: Zenophobes for Healy : We don;t like people, especially Lou Manzo. I JUST HATE LOU MANZO THAT FLAMING HOMOSEXUAL MAYBE MCGREEVEY WILL MOVE IN WITH HIM!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rev. Edward Allen posted Message 7128 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 11:28:07 Subject: Lou Manzo's Betrayal of Glenn Cunningham: Dear Friends of Jersey City: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Expendable posted Message 7129 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 11:28:22 Subject: Menendez thinks DeGise ,Gaughan are expendable He is very disappointed with their political savy.He thinks he got bad advice on Healy for Mayor of jersey City.Now he has to give money under the table to all contenders.He feels he has been put in a weak position. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ontobill posted Message 7130 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 12:17:01 Subject: Re: Blind Gate II : Blind Gate [Definition] : Blind Gate is for people who have political influence to receive a special exemption for elderly family members to gain entry into St. Joseph's Home for the Blind. : There is a system of political influence exerted by the DeGise Administration of breaking the rules and jumping ahead of all others on the waiting list. : And this influence is not limited to just Tom DeGise's mother. County insider Anthony Amabile and his partner, Bette Spinelli, successful got Spinelli's late mother into St. Joseph's as well. : The Amabile-Spinelli team rake in over $300,000 per year in county pay and contracts. You would think they would have given up the perk of getting Spenelli's mothers into St. Josephs ahead of the average working family. : The only good guy on the DeGise Spinelli team is Councilmen Bill Gaughan who recently raised over $50,000 for our beloved St. Josephs. : Gaughan 'walks with Jesus'. ::::50 thousand is about one fourth of the money that the gaughan family fleeces out of the taxpayers of jersey city and hudson county in phony job salaries and benefits. Four of them account for six paid positions among them. Jesus walks with much better company. ***************** End Of Article ****************** too rich posted Message 7131 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 12:20:04 Subject: Re: Blind Gate II : : Blind Gate [Definition] : : Blind Gate is for people who have political influence to receive a special exemption for elderly family members to gain entry into St. Joseph's Home for the Blind. : : There is a system of political influence exerted by the DeGise Administration of breaking the rules and jumping ahead of all others on the waiting list. : : And this influence is not limited to just Tom DeGise's mother. County insider Anthony Amabile and his partner, Bette Spinelli, successful got Spinelli's late mother into St. Joseph's as well. : : The Amabile-Spinelli team rake in over $300,000 per year in county pay and contracts. You would think they would have given up the perk of getting Spenelli's mothers into St. Josephs ahead of the average working family. : : The only good guy on the DeGise Spinelli team is Councilmen Bill Gaughan who recently raised over $50,000 for our beloved St. Josephs. : : Gaughan 'walks with Jesus'. : ::::50 thousand is about one fourth of the money that the gaughan family fleeces out of the taxpayers of jersey city and hudson county in phony job salaries and benefits. Four of them account for six paid positions among them. Jesus walks with much better company. ::::one fourth? Gaughan alone accounts for that much. One tenth is closer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Are you for real? posted Message 7132 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 12:25:09 Subject: Re: Blind Gate II : : Blind Gate [Definition] : : Blind Gate is for people who have political influence to receive a special exemption for elderly family members to gain entry into St. Joseph's Home for the Blind. : : There is a system of political influence exerted by the DeGise Administration of breaking the rules and jumping ahead of all others on the waiting list. : : And this influence is not limited to just Tom DeGise's mother. County insider Anthony Amabile and his partner, Bette Spinelli, successful got Spinelli's late mother into St. Joseph's as well. : : The Amabile-Spinelli team rake in over $300,000 per year in county pay and contracts. You would think they would have given up the perk of getting Spenelli's mothers into St. Josephs ahead of the average working family. : : The only good guy on the DeGise Spinelli team is Councilmen Bill Gaughan who recently raised over $50,000 for our beloved St. Josephs. : : Gaughan 'walks with Jesus'. : ::::50 thousand is about one fourth of the money that the gaughan family fleeces out of the taxpayers of jersey city and hudson county in phony job salaries and benefits. Four of them account for six paid positions among them. Jesus walks with much better company. ::::::::Bill Gaughan is Satan's capo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now talking about Satan's Capo posted Message 7133 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 12:31:12 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo's Betrayal of Glenn Cunningham: :::The light of God does not favor this person (and I use the term lightly) Buzz words like treachery and betrayal, double cross shows this man to be a trouble making race baiting racist. He should be ashamed of himself. Reverend indeed! : Dear Friends of Jersey City: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Puhleeze! posted Message 7134 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 12:34:41 Subject: Re: The famous Sandy Cunningham You made cause Lou wouldn't give you a job? : : The former first Lady will endorse the Honorable LOU MANZO, after a get together in Chapel Ave.with the brains : : of the legacy Willie Flood now is with out Manzo's money : : and the great support of the joe's .and bobbie's. : : So Sandy preferd Manzo over Lady smile Flood no surprise : : after Bonacure............... : LOU MANZO MAKES ME SICK!!!! HES A CORRUPT POLITICAN AND SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH WORSE PEOPLE THAN HIM. FROM GERALD MCCANN TO DANIEL MCMANN!!! IF HE WINS JERSEY CITY WILL BE F*CKED!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 7135 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 12:43:29 Subject: Ya gotta admit ... Reverend Allen is good for laughs. Talking about treachery, back-stabbing, lies and misdeeds. Talking about Manzo, McCann, McGreevey, etal. People .. Jersey City isn't going to Hell ... Jersey City IS Hell !!!! Bwahahahahahahaha !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 7136 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 12:48:53 Subject: The Flipski Juggernaut Heard today that the latest polling has Flipski with 1% of the vote. That Flipski-Mobile is doing wonders !!! :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Toss DeGise and Gaughan Overboard with their loser Healy posted Message 7137 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 13:03:42 Subject: But is he going to do anything about it? : He is very disappointed with their political savy.He thinks he got bad advice on Healy for Mayor of jersey City.Now he has to give money under the table to all contenders.He feels he has been put in a weak position. ***************** End Of Article ****************** is DeGise Going to Return the Money posted Message 7138 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 13:08:43 Subject: Re: Blind Gate II The county is paying to subsidize his mothers care? Don't hold your breath taxpayers! : : : Blind Gate [Definition] : : : Blind Gate is for people who have political influence to receive a special exemption for elderly family members to gain entry into St. Joseph's Home for the Blind. : : : There is a system of political influence exerted by the DeGise Administration of breaking the rules and jumping ahead of all others on the waiting list. : : : And this influence is not limited to just Tom DeGise's mother. County insider Anthony Amabile and his partner, Bette Spinelli, successful got Spinelli's late mother into St. Joseph's as well. : : : The Amabile-Spinelli team rake in over $300,000 per year in county pay and contracts. You would think they would have given up the perk of getting Spenelli's mothers into St. Josephs ahead of the average working family. : : : The only good guy on the DeGise Spinelli team is Councilmen Bill Gaughan who recently raised over $50,000 for our beloved St. Josephs. : : : Gaughan 'walks with Jesus'. : : : ::::50 thousand is about one fourth of the money that the gaughan family fleeces out of the taxpayers of jersey city and hudson county in phony job salaries and benefits. Four of them account for six paid positions among them. Jesus walks with much better company. : : ::::one fourth? Gaughan alone accounts for that much. One tenth is closer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The corrupt DeGise Gaughan HCDO Machine posted Message 7139 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 13:10:42 Subject: Harvey Has Too Much Class to Associate with : The first to sell any one mayoral candidate out were Bill Gaughan & Tom DeGise. They ran Smith for Senate and gave him no support, then they put Smith in as interim Mayor and switched their support to Healy. Proving once again that the HCDO is only interested in puppet candidates, not those who think on their own. Disappointing but not surprising. Probably better for Harvey in the long run because who wants to be tied to the corrupt HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** There You Go, Homophobes for Healy Can;t Stop Their Hatred posted Message 7140 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 13:13:08 Subject: Re: Zenophobes for Healy : : We don;t like people, especially Lou Manzo. : I JUST HATE LOU MANZO THAT FLAMING HOMOSEXUAL MAYBE MCGREEVEY WILL MOVE IN WITH HIM!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** horrified posted Message 7141 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 14:01:14 Subject: Re: Blind Gate II : The county is paying to subsidize his mothers care? : Don't hold your breath taxpayers! : : : : Blind Gate [Definition] : : : : Blind Gate is for people who have political influence to receive a special exemption for elderly family members to gain entry into St. Joseph's Home for the Blind. ::::residence for an ailing, elderly woman is one thing but the same taxpayers subsidise gaughan's healthy, 30s daughter living in low income housing in union city while collecting money from the same taxpayes for bogus job and board membership. This is a real disgrace. and no one complains. : : : : There is a system of political influence exerted by the DeGise Administration of breaking the rules and jumping ahead of all others on the waiting list. : : : : And this influence is not limited to just Tom DeGise's mother. County insider Anthony Amabile and his partner, Bette Spinelli, successful got Spinelli's late mother into St. Joseph's as well. : : : : The Amabile-Spinelli team rake in over $300,000 per year in county pay and contracts. You would think they would have given up the perk of getting Spenelli's mothers into St. Josephs ahead of the average working family. : : : : The only good guy on the DeGise Spinelli team is Councilmen Bill Gaughan who recently raised over $50,000 for our beloved St. Josephs. : : : : Gaughan 'walks with Jesus'. : : : : : ::::50 thousand is about one fourth of the money that the gaughan family fleeces out of the taxpayers of jersey city and hudson county in phony job salaries and benefits. Four of them account for six paid positions among them. Jesus walks with much better company. : : : : : ::::one fourth? Gaughan alone accounts for that much. One tenth is closer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Put a fork in him. posted Message 7142 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 14:16:40 Subject: Ron Bon Done A state Appeals Court upheld the removal of Ronald Buonocore from the Jersey City mayoral ballot today. Superior Court Judge Maurice Gallipolli ruled last Friday that Buonocore, the Chief of Police, did not meet the one-year residency requirement. (10/06/04) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ah c'mon now posted Message 7143 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 14:22:07 Subject: Re: Ron Bon Done :::We know in his heart he did. *snicker* : A state Appeals Court upheld the removal of Ronald Buonocore from the Jersey City mayoral ballot today. Superior Court Judge Maurice Gallipolli ruled last Friday that Buonocore, the Chief of Police, did not meet the one-year residency requirement. (10/06/04) : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well...if you got to say one thing posted Message 7144 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 14:28:10 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo's Betrayal of Glenn Cunningham: Rev. Allen sure knows Manzo. I disagree with most of his letter but he did peg Manzo and McCann correctly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** hjf posted Message 7145 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 14:38:21 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo's Betrayal of Glenn Cunningham: : :::The light of God does not favor this person (and I use the term lightly) Buzz words like treachery and betrayal, double cross shows this man to be a trouble making race baiting racist. He should be ashamed of himself. Reverend indeed! : : Dear Friends of Jersey City: he is not racist he is right !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** hjf posted Message 7145 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 14:38:24 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo's Betrayal of Glenn Cunningham: : :::The light of God does not favor this person (and I use the term lightly) Buzz words like treachery and betrayal, double cross shows this man to be a trouble making race baiting racist. He should be ashamed of himself. Reverend indeed! : : Dear Friends of Jersey City: he is not racist he is right !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** October Poll posted Message 7146 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 14:42:24 Subject: Gadsen ahead of Lipski Manzo 27 Healy 19 Smith 7 Flood 6 Buonocore 3 Gadsen 3 Lipski 2 33 % undecided : Heard today that the latest polling has Flipski with 1% of the vote. : That Flipski-Mobile is doing wonders !!! : :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** ha posted Message 7147 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 14:45:38 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo's Betrayal of Glenn Cunningham: 2 funny ***************** End Of Article ****************** GETNJ posted Message 7148 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 14:55:49 Subject: Tom Degise denied this in a recent post. : : The county is paying to subsidize his mothers care? Tom Degise denied this in a recent post. Please see the Link. It would be nice if we could get a statement from the institution. Has anybody been denied access for a relative that was not on charity care? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo for Sandy Cunningham posted Message 7149 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 15:00:01 Subject: Check out this link Rev Allen JACKA$$ http://politicsnj.com/manzo060204.htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'll go for a ride if you do... posted Message 7150 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 15:05:38 Subject: Re: Gadsen ahead of Lipski :::sign me up now. What about Pine & Mansoor? : Manzo 27 : Healy 19 : Smith 7 : Flood 6 : Buonocore 3 : Gadsen 3 : Lipski 2 : 33 : % undecided : : Heard today that the latest polling has Flipski with 1% of the vote. : : That Flipski-Mobile is doing wonders !!! : : :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth be told posted Message 7151 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 15:09:23 Subject: McCann Ethnic Cleansing During his first term as Mayor, Gerald McCann was responsible for a program of ethnic cleansing. Mayor McCann learned that federal low-income housing grants actually did not require that building take place in the municipality receiving the grant. With this loophole, McCann used US taxpayer money for construction in Dover and in Monmouth County. McCann sent Jersey City minorities packing. African-Americans and Latinos, if Lou Manzo becomes mayor, your days as residents of Jersey City may be numbered. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Will Harvey Take Him Back? posted Message 7152 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 15:14:26 Subject: Re: Ron Bon Done Now Ron the X-Con will be crawling on his hands and knees to get his City job back. What will Harvey do? He will be toast if Lou Manzo is elected. : A state Appeals Court upheld the removal of Ronald Buonocore from the Jersey City mayoral ballot today. Superior Court Judge Maurice Gallipolli ruled last Friday that Buonocore, the Chief of Police, did not meet the one-year residency requirement. (10/06/04) : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Check Your Facts posted Message 7153 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 15:25:59 Subject: You Don't Know What Your Talking About JC is the recipient of grants to build affordable housing. THe Council on Afforadable Housing in Trenton administers the program. JC builds housing to satify the obligation of other communities mostly from Bergen County. Jersey City does not 'export' hosuing obligations to other communities. Nice try but no cigar. n: During his first term as Mayor, Gerald McCann was responsible for a program of ethnic cleansing. : Mayor McCann learned that federal low-income housing grants actually did not require that building take place in the municipality receiving the grant. With this loophole, McCann used US taxpayer money for construction in Dover and in Monmouth County. McCann sent Jersey City minorities packing. : African-Americans and Latinos, if Lou Manzo becomes mayor, your days as residents of Jersey City may be numbered. ***************** End Of Article ****************** case worker said his mother jumped to the head of the line because of her 'condition' posted Message 7154 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 15:28:52 Subject: See Case Worker on original thread What was her condition,? being Tom DeGise's mother? thats all it takes! : : : The county is paying to subsidize his mothers care? : Tom Degise denied this in a recent post. : Please see the Link. : It would be nice if we could get a statement from the institution. Has anybody been denied access for a relative that was not on charity care? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Please help the City posted Message 7155 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 16:21:28 Subject: Sandy You Should Support Your Sister Willie This is to Ms. Cunningham. If you are reading this I just want to say that we are still hurt that you would choose the cheif over Mrs Flood but he is out and we really think you should do the right thing and support Mrs Flood. She worked really hard with our mayor and she is the most qualified for the job since she was his aide. We thought you were going to run and so did she and I know she would have supported you. That is the past. You and the mayor showed us young people that with UNITY we could do anyhting. Please continue to set that example and support Mrs Flood. Not for just me but for the people in this city who never have a voice. We think she would give us that voice and make this city better than it is right now. We all know Mrs Flood and we know that she really cares about us and this city. Please do the right thing. I know Glenn would have wanted it this way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** On this I whole heartedly agree posted Message 7156 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 17:24:22 Subject: Re: Sandy You Should Support Your Sister Willie : This is to Ms. Cunningham. If you are reading this I just want to say that we are still hurt that you would choose the cheif over Mrs Flood but he is out and we really think you should do the right thing and support Mrs Flood. She worked really hard with our mayor and she is the most qualified for the job since she was his aide. We thought you were going to run and so did she and I know she would have supported you. That is the past. You and the mayor showed us young people that with UNITY we could do anyhting. Please continue to set that example and support Mrs Flood. Not for just me but for the people in this city who never have a voice. We think she would give us that voice and make this city better than it is right now. We all know Mrs Flood and we know that she really cares about us and this city. Please do the right thing. I know Glenn would have wanted it this way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LEACH /////// posted Message 7157 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 17:57:39 Subject: Re: Budnick campaigning on County Time : : How can Marty Budnick hang political signs on County Time with his County vehicle. : : Didn't he cost the taxpayers enough with that sexual harrassment charge a couple of years ago. : : How can DeGise / Gaughan allow this blood-su3ker to continue to su3k the taxpayers dry??? : : ::::Jimmy the leach King lecturing on ethics? Too much to say right now. Have to go to work. Much, much more to follow. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7158 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 18:04:53 Subject: KERRY knocked off Healy House Signs? Last week, I noticed that the new Healy house signs had KERRY on top. Today, I saw some new signs without the KERRY. Closer inspection reveals a jagged edge. Was KERRY removed? What gives? Is the rumor of bad vibes from KERRY FOR PRESIDENT true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're a Fool and a LIAR posted Message 7159 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 18:05:27 Subject: Re: McCann Ethnic Cleansing You have no clue what you are talking about. Like McCann or not, this one is a lie. If you keep spouting Bullsh-t about him, the real devilish things he has done will also be thought of as fantasy. So cut it. : During his first term as Mayor, Gerald McCann was responsible for a program of ethnic cleansing. : Mayor McCann learned that federal low-income housing grants actually did not require that building take place in the municipality receiving the grant. With this loophole, McCann used US taxpayer money for construction in Dover and in Monmouth County. McCann sent Jersey City minorities packing. : African-Americans and Latinos, if Lou Manzo becomes mayor, your days as residents of Jersey City may be numbered. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rock On Rev posted Message 7160 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 18:08:35 Subject: You got Manzo's number.... Rev.... from your mouth to the ears of the voters. People got to knopw what this turncoat, back-stabber is all about. : Dear Friends of Jersey City: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kerry for President posted Message 7161 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 18:26:01 Subject: Re: KERRY knocked off Healy House Signs? Doubt that there are any bad vibes. Kerry WILL be elected president unless the Supreme Court gets involved again. : Last week, I noticed that the new Healy house signs had KERRY on top. : Today, I saw some new signs without the KERRY. Closer inspection reveals a jagged edge. Was KERRY removed? What gives? Is the rumor of bad vibes from KERRY FOR PRESIDENT true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** JJ posted Message 7162 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 19:04:46 Subject: Jersey Journal Poll Manzo leads Healy by 8 % Who cares about the rest of them ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7163 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 19:09:51 Subject: I heard that the KERRY FOR PRESIDENT organization was not amused. I heard that the KERRY FOR PRESIDENT organization contacted HEALY FOR MAYOR and told them to stop using Senator Kerry's name in the local campaign. This is what I meant by "bad vibes." : Doubt that there are any bad vibes. Kerry WILL be elected president unless the Supreme Court gets involved again. : : Last week, I noticed that the new Healy house signs had KERRY on top. : : Today, I saw some new signs without the KERRY. Closer inspection reveals a jagged edge. Was KERRY removed? What gives? Is the rumor of bad vibes from KERRY FOR PRESIDENT true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Post the Link to the Webpage posted Message 7164 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 19:41:34 Subject: Re: Jersey Journal Poll post the link from the JJ. This way the Healy people in denial will realize its all over. Time to p_i_s_s in their beer. : Manzo leads Healy by 8 % : Who cares about the rest of them ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** A regular at the Astor Bar posted Message 7165 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 19:46:40 Subject: Kerry Might Be a Flip Flopper but He's not The Kerry campaign must have gone ballistic when they found out about Healy trying to get pulled by Kerry's coatails without permission. Leave it to Jerry, anything to avoid campaigning. : I heard that the KERRY FOR PRESIDENT organization contacted HEALY FOR MAYOR and told them to stop using Senator Kerry's name in the local campaign. This is what I meant by "bad vibes." : : Doubt that there are any bad vibes. Kerry WILL be elected president unless the Supreme Court gets involved again. : : : Last week, I noticed that the new Healy house signs had KERRY on top. : : : Today, I saw some new signs without the KERRY. Closer inspection reveals a jagged edge. Was KERRY removed? What gives? Is the rumor of bad vibes from KERRY FOR PRESIDENT true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** SANDY IS HAS BEEN posted Message 7166 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 19:53:31 Subject: Re: Sandy You Should Support Your Sister Willie Sandy is a no body, she is just a LOSER! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sans Jerry Healy - I Wonder Why posted Message 7167 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 21:52:15 Subject: Candiates Debate Tonight Gay and Lesbian coalition having mayoral debate tonight, Jerry Healy isn't going to be there. Any suprise? http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/jerseycity/index.ssf?/base/news-3/109705391685040.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Got No Juice Reverend posted Message 7168 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 21:55:01 Subject: Re: Revernend Al's- Betrayal of Glenn Cunningham: Reverend Al See's Jesus! But Lou Manzo is gonna win. : Dear Friends of Jersey City: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reverend Al posted Message 7169 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 21:57:32 Subject: Reverend Allen and Hey Rev, is Reverend AL Sharpton teaching you some tricks? : Reverend Allen is good for laughs. Talking about treachery, back-stabbing, lies and misdeeds. Talking about Manzo, McCann, McGreevey, etal. : People .. Jersey City isn't going to Hell ... Jersey City IS Hell !!!! : Bwahahahahahahaha !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Your a Coward Tom posted Message 7170 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 22:01:41 Subject: , DeGise Not Publicly Supporting Healy Now that the polls showing Healy trailing badly, Degise is no longer showing any public support for Healy. He thinks people will forget that he supported Healy after the election is over. But Tommy, we will never ever let you forget about it! And don;t show up at city hall. You are not welcome. : The first to sell any one mayoral candidate out were Bill Gaughan & Tom DeGise. They ran Smith for Senate and gave him no support, then they put Smith in as interim Mayor and switched their support to Healy. Proving once again that the HCDO is only interested in puppet candidates, not those who think on their own. Disappointing but not surprising. Probably better for Harvey in the long run because who wants to be tied to the corrupt HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** awed posted Message 7171 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 22:02:25 Subject: Re: Budnick campaigning on County Time : : : How can Marty Budnick hang political signs on County Time with his County vehicle. : : : Didn't he cost the taxpayers enough with that sexual harrassment charge a couple of years ago. : : : How can DeGise / Gaughan allow this blood-su3ker to continue to su3k the taxpayers dry??? : : : : ::::Jimmy the leach King lecturing on ethics? Too much to say right now. Have to go to work. Much, much more to follow. :::::Jimmy King on ethics and Dickson calling someone else a leach. Too much for one day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Really Like to Hate People posted Message 7172 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 22:04:18 Subject: Re: Homophobes for Healy Besides drinking to excess, the Healy camp have one other thing in common, they hate people. Keep up the good work, I'am sure the voters of JC will show their support on election day. : : We don;t like people, especially Lou Manzo. : I JUST HATE LOU MANZO THAT FLAMING HOMOSEXUAL MAYBE MCGREEVEY WILL MOVE IN WITH HIM!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakaty Tata posted Message 7173 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 22:24:01 Subject: Healy you dont need FLIP KERRY Kerry for President stop Healy from using his name on signs.Well the solution is on your hands vote for Healy and DO NOT VOTE for president......Menendez thank you for your help to the JCDO. Maybe we have a surprise for BOB.................... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vote Kerry in November posted Message 7174 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 23:11:21 Subject: Re: I heard that the KERRY FOR PRESIDENT organization was not amused. Now I can't comment on that but I can imagine that most the national candidates don't want to be too involved with Jersey City. What a real shame for us who actually want good government here. We continue to lose! : I heard that the KERRY FOR PRESIDENT organization contacted HEALY FOR MAYOR and told them to stop using Senator Kerry's name in the local campaign. This is what I meant by "bad vibes." : : Doubt that there are any bad vibes. Kerry WILL be elected president unless the Supreme Court gets involved again. : : : Last week, I noticed that the new Healy house signs had KERRY on top. : : : Today, I saw some new signs without the KERRY. Closer inspection reveals a jagged edge. Was KERRY removed? What gives? Is the rumor of bad vibes from KERRY FOR PRESIDENT true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 7175 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 23:12:20 Subject: Lou won outright. Oh Louie was there and he looked so marvelous. He was very poised and carried himself like a leader. His tie and shirt matched so well and his suit was very neatly pressed. His shoes were so shiney that even Beth "Shiney Shoes" Janizewski would have been very impressed! Lou looked stunning! We are so proud to have him running! He's got our Community endorsement! : Gay and Lesbian coalition having mayoral debate tonight, : Jerry Healy isn't going to be there. Any suprise? : http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/jerseycity/index.ssf?/base/news-3/109705391685040.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry Healy was there posted Message 7176 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 23:18:22 Subject: Re: Candiates Debate Tonight Jerry was there...he did not come across as homophobic so quit posting that bull! Jerry came off as supportive of the GLTBI community. In fact all the candidates were there except for 3 minor ones...Mansoor, Gadsden and one other that I don't remember the name of. Al Pine was great! He should take his campaign to Rascals. The best line at the debate was from Pine in reference to what we should do with that retched 9-11 monolith..."give it to Bayonne because they're tacky" (sorry Bayonne...he said it, I didn't). For the record...my suggestion is that we accept the gift from Russia, grind it up and fill the potholes with it. Too bad I didn't get to answer the question. I was most impressed by Hilario Nunez. He's getting my vote! : Gay and Lesbian coalition having mayoral debate tonight, : Jerry Healy isn't going to be there. Any suprise? : http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/jerseycity/index.ssf?/base/news-3/109705391685040.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don't speak for us! posted Message 7177 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 06, 2004 at 23:21:36 Subject: Re: Lou won outright. Lou was there and didn't say anything new. He might have picked up all of 5 votes there tonight. Smith racked votes up quickly. Lipsky probably got the 2nd most votes and then Healy with Al Pine coming in 5th. : Oh Louie was there and he looked so marvelous. : He was very poised and carried himself like a leader. : His tie and shirt matched so well and his suit was very neatly pressed. His shoes were so shiney that even Beth "Shiney Shoes" Janizewski would have been very impressed! : Lou looked stunning! : We are so proud to have him running! : He's got our Community endorsement! : : : Gay and Lesbian coalition having mayoral debate tonight, : : Jerry Healy isn't going to be there. Any suprise? : : http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/jerseycity/index.ssf?/base/news-3/109705391685040.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bonehead posted Message 7178 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 06:48:56 Subject: Re: McCann Ethnic Cleansing :::You are a bonehead! Have you ever seen Dover and Monmouth County? The hell with the damn minorities send the white people! : During his first term as Mayor, Gerald McCann was responsible for a program of ethnic cleansing. : Mayor McCann learned that federal low-income housing grants actually did not require that building take place in the municipality receiving the grant. With this loophole, McCann used US taxpayer money for construction in Dover and in Monmouth County. McCann sent Jersey City minorities packing. : African-Americans and Latinos, if Lou Manzo becomes mayor, your days as residents of Jersey City may be numbered. ***************** End Of Article ****************** rukidding posted Message 7179 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 07:40:59 Subject: Re: steve basil : : HE WILL TESTIFY AS RED FLYER STATED YOU ARE DONE AS OF 10/29 /04 YOU ARE DONE CC;MRS KING? ;;;;cc mrs. dickson? Where's your big wheel? ***************** End Of Article ****************** House Of Cards posted Message 7180 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 07:51:18 Subject: Menendez House of Cards falling down around him He has finally been exposed for what he is.A power, money hungry poltician.Who will let no one stand in his way.Smile willie you are stuck with him.Bad Deal by you. Glenn Cunningham is rolling over in his grave. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Activity posted Message 7181 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 08:07:57 Subject: Bret Schundler &Tom - Nancy Gaynor What is all the activity that is going on between Schundler & the Gaynors all about?Interesting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Win,Place,Show posted Message 7182 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 08:58:25 Subject: 1-Manzo-2-Flood-3-Healy Easy pickings--Jersey City new Mayor is Louis Manzo.Will he then sell his soul to the HCDO? We shall see soon enough.June will be the real test for four years. This is just a tune -up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** InActivity posted Message 7183 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 09:03:22 Subject: Re: Bret Schundler &Tom - Nancy Gaynor : What is all the activity that is going on between Schundler & the Gaynors all about? Could it be the Sandcastle building Tournament? Interesting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** dfjghdfjhl posted Message 7184 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 09:22:56 Subject: Re: KERRY knocked off Healy House Signs? no kerry for president contacted HEaly stop making things up! ***************** End Of Article ****************** poll? posted Message 7185 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 09:26:25 Subject: Re: Gadsen ahead of Lipski : and what poll is this? manzos poll? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth posted Message 7186 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 09:35:05 Subject: Re: Sandy You Should Support Your Sister Willie Your prayers have been answered. On October 7 at Willie Flood Campaign headquarters at 12 noon Ms Sandra Bolden Cunningham will publicly endorse the next Mayor of Jersey City Ms. Willie Flood. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that this will really seal the deal. The candidate without a negetive track record. As Manzo, Lipski and Healy continue to split the votes in Ward B,C,D; the collition in Ward F for Willie Flood gets stronger and stronger. Mo, Larry and Curly we want to publicly thank you for bringing constant confusion and chaos to this election as people clearly see who the most sensible candidate is. Congratulation Ms. Flood this will be a well deserved victory. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward F posted Message 7187 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 09:44:14 Subject: I will win Ward F-so say Harvey L Smith Smith tells menendez ,ward T is his. send money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Shut up posted Message 7188 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 09:47:27 Subject: Re: Sandy You Should Support Your Sister Willie To you but she IS SOMEBODY TO US. That's what matters. : Sandy is a no body, she is just a LOSER! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I was there. posted Message 7189 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 09:49:51 Subject: Ask Uncle Harvey how many cue cards did he read for answers at the debate. Who was answering the questions him or his lackies? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter posted Message 7190 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 09:52:14 Subject: THANK U JESUS!!!!! We Shall OVERCOME!!! : This is to Ms. Cunningham. If you are reading this I just want to say that we are still hurt that you would choose the cheif over Mrs Flood but he is out and we really think you should do the right thing and support Mrs Flood. She worked really hard with our mayor and she is the most qualified for the job since she was his aide. We thought you were going to run and so did she and I know she would have supported you. That is the past. You and the mayor showed us young people that with UNITY we could do anyhting. Please continue to set that example and support Mrs Flood. Not for just me but for the people in this city who never have a voice. We think she would give us that voice and make this city better than it is right now. We all know Mrs Flood and we know that she really cares about us and this city. Please do the right thing. I know Glenn would have wanted it this way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Congregation posted Message 7191 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 09:54:27 Subject: Preach Reverend!!!! Talk about it!!! Tell the truth!!!!! : Reverend Al See's Jesus! But Lou Manzo is gonna win. : : : Dear Friends of Jersey City: ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tale Of two Cities posted Message 7192 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 09:57:41 Subject: How many in Ward F will vote for a White Man? Lets vote for the smartest & best candidate.Forget about Color for once in ward F.Is that possible?UTN said no way. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not as long as there is Willie he wont posted Message 7193 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 10:12:15 Subject: Re: I will win Ward F-so say Harvey L Smith Ward T may be Harveys but Ward F will be Willie's : Smith tells menendez ,ward T is his. send money. ***************** End Of Article ****************** *sniciker**giggle**guffaw* posted Message 7194 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 10:13:12 Subject: Re: Ask Uncle Harvey how many cue cards did he read for answers at the debate. : Who was answering the questions him or his lackies? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fixatated on homosexuality - Get Over It! Your Boring! posted Message 7195 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 10:13:29 Subject: Healy Supporters Same only garbage from the Healy camp. Not one original idea in the entire group, nothing! : Oh Louie was there and he looked so marvelous. : He was very poised and carried himself like a leader. : His tie and shirt matched so well and his suit was very neatly pressed. His shoes were so shiney that even Beth "Shiney Shoes" Janizewski would have been very impressed! : Lou looked stunning! : We are so proud to have him running! : He's got our Community endorsement! : : : Gay and Lesbian coalition having mayoral debate tonight, : : Jerry Healy isn't going to be there. Any suprise? : : http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/jerseycity/index.ssf?/base/news-3/109705391685040.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** When will the Freeholders Jump Ship? posted Message 7196 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 10:14:57 Subject: Re: Menendez House of Cards falling down around him Hey Sal, its time to come into the light. : He has finally been exposed for what he is.A power, money hungry poltician.Who will let no one stand in his way.Smile willie you are stuck with him.Bad Deal by you. Glenn Cunningham is rolling over in his grave. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I would put Healy Behind Smith, Definitely posted Message 7197 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 10:17:10 Subject: Re: 1-Manzo-2-Flood-3-Healy Lipski may also beat him out. Sad, very sad for the HCDO. THe only thing they got as support is their payroll. : Easy pickings--Jersey City new Mayor is Louis Manzo.Will he then sell his soul to the HCDO? We shall see soon enough.June will be the real test for four years. This is just a tune -up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I would put Healy Behind Smith, Definitely posted Message 7197 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 10:17:10 Subject: Re: 1-Manzo-2-Flood-3-Healy Lipski may also beat him out. Sad, very sad for the HCDO. THe only thing they got as support is their payroll. : Easy pickings--Jersey City new Mayor is Louis Manzo.Will he then sell his soul to the HCDO? We shall see soon enough.June will be the real test for four years. This is just a tune -up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** you tip my canoe, I'll tip yours too posted Message 7198 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 10:30:10 Subject: The lousy council in 1997 was one a the big reasons that Healy pushed Bret's face in the dirt in the first round election. : What is all the activity that is going on between Schundler & the Gaynors all about?Interesting. If Schundler is depending on Nancy Gaynor fro any sort a support he is setting out to sea in an inner tube with a nail in it. Nancy Gaynor was absolutely worthless poltically. The lousy council in 1997 was one a the big reasons that Healy pushed Bret's face in the dirt in the first round election. Nancy Gaynors son loused up stealing trees and making the disadvantaged even work on the taxpayer dime at planting them at his house. I thinks that it was out a town even, but of that I'm not certain. With a silly feeling of being sorry for her because she was sick, instead of sending her off into oblivion Schundler keeps her on the ticket where she does hardly a step of campaigning. Schundler was lucky that Bettinger knocked Nancy off a the ticket for with the boat anchor necklace Schundler might gone overboard himself in the runoff. Then there was Catehrine Macchis, darling of classmate Degise and weirdo Kennelly. Cateherine Macchi strutted about treating one and all in Ward A as if they was squatters on her private estate. Voters gave her the boot solid and fast. You got the hand it to the Macchis, with a little back alley crummy storefront they have fooled one and all for a generation know that they is some sort a powerhouse at generating votes while the truth is that they is nothing but candles that you cants even read the big letters of the Daily News front page by. Macchi loses as Mayor and Dr Paul is a joke as running for governor. At least Jordan knew to do the right thing and pack up his bags and leave town. Schundler is humiliated running Macch for CE, with big shot out a town republican brain trust calling the shots. Macchi didn't hardly even go throught he motions himself knowing that he wasn't worth but a pebble in a shoe. And after defeats does Schundler send them away cause reality showed them to be cons. No Schundler rewards them as if they is like fine people in exile to be cherished for the good works that they have performed. Schundler rewarded Nancy Gaynor allsos with a doing nothing but talk on the phone all day in an office run by the lost in the sauce, or out in the field as they so politiely phrased it, Neil, of the Deputy Mayor caliber, I hope that I don't wet my pants laughing. Was this a joke on the part of Schundler on what he really thought of the Jersey City mayors office that Neil was good for next in line? At least Cunningham knew to cut the ropes on Nancy Gaynor, but even he kept close to Catherine Macchi until she backstabbed him. And there was too the the invisible man MacLaughling like the council needed two undertakers. So good for nothing the old time residents of B thought Odea still was sitting in the council. Just a political pothole, MacLaughlin didn't do no capaigning whatsover and was luck to get put out of his misery by Mary Donnelly. And what a laught the signs started of in 97. All the regal council demanded that their name be given equal billing as Schundler so as you couldn't read the little letters no how no way. And supposedly, though I only know from someone at Degises end a the phone, Degise still lays down the law to Schundler that all organizing in Jersey City is supposed to get his blessing like DEgise is the godfather of Jersey CIty politics. It's hard to guess if Degise cracked up maybe with Gaughan feeding him swill to the ears or if the huffand puff bull actually generally works on mosts people and so he gets what he wants. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Late for work posted Message 7199 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 10:49:54 Subject: What is it that Kennelly cant get to ework on time He really has degise rolling over.Watch this guy real close.He is a far out left wing nut case. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Very Soon posted Message 7200 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 10:57:02 Subject: Healy negatives to be revealed The two notorious Bradley Beach incidents : Wife Beating Police Report and the nude photos of a drunken Healy urinating all over himself in broad daylight. VERY SOON. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bozo posted Message 7201 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 11:07:35 Subject: Gene Drayton to be Flood's Cheif of Staff Drayton has made the deal by getting Sandy Cunningham to endorse Willie Flood. Drayton has been dating Sandy since Glenn passed on. That is the type of people you get if you vote for Flood. A sad day for Jersey City if these people gain power. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Classic posted Message 7202 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 11:09:35 Subject: Everyone in JC will get a Healy Picture Oh the humanity.McCann is the best at what he does. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy Disease posted Message 7203 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 11:12:12 Subject: Kennelly Has the -------- Mr. DeGise, do you let this low life on your payroll get away with this unacceptable behavior? Has he been reprimanded yet? Does personnel know about this? He wouldn't be related to you too? : He really has degise rolling over.Watch this guy real close.He is a far out left wing nut case. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Win Elections posted Message 7204 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 11:12:58 Subject: What's that? : Oh the humanity.McCann is the best at what he does. ***************** End Of Article ****************** This guys running for Mayor? posted Message 7205 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 11:14:57 Subject: Re: Healy negatives to be revealed I can't believe it! There are people who would actually vote for someone like this? : The two notorious Bradley Beach incidents : : Wife Beating Police Report and the nude photos of a drunken Healy urinating all over himself in broad daylight. : VERY SOON. ***************** End Of Article ****************** oh no posted Message 7206 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 11:14:59 Subject: Re: Everyone in JC will get a Healy Picture : Oh the humanity.McCann is the best at what he does. No way. Monica was better. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Beautiful trees posted Message 7207 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 11:24:29 Subject: Tom &Nancy Gaynor have JC trees all around their property in Avon-By-The-Sea.This is not right.Give them back and get your own. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sad posted Message 7208 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 11:26:23 Subject: Healy a wife beater ? Healy supposedly beat up his wife. I know the family has a history of drinking problems so it doesn't suprise me that this had happened. Alcohol is the root of all evil. I would not vote for someone who goes likes impair his ability to make proper decisions. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo's a HOMO posted Message 7209 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 11:28:04 Subject: Re: Healy negatives to be revealed Thank you Lou and Gerry for the posts. We have photos of Gerry in Orange! All this dirty work has and will cost you the election. You can take that to the bank! ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Beats His Stick posted Message 7210 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 12:02:00 Subject: Re: Healy a wife beater ? : Healy supposedly beat up his wife. I know the family has a history of drinking problems so it doesn't suprise me that this had happened. Alcohol is the root of all evil. I would not vote for someone who goes likes impair his ability to make proper decisions. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy is not sober on election day posted Message 7211 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 12:04:41 Subject: Want to Bet? : Thank you Lou and Gerry for the posts. We have photos of Gerry in Orange! All this dirty work has and will cost you the election. You can take that to the bank! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood Watch posted Message 7212 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 12:09:27 Subject: McCann has a ton of stuff on Smiling Willie This should be a lot of fun.Lots of good reading on Smiling Willie coming up soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SGHUDGHUDFJBN posted Message 7213 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 12:18:26 Subject: Re: Healy a wife beater ? : OH COME ON.. WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO COME UP WITH NEXT! YOU ARE PATHETIC AND WILL TRY ANYTHING BUT GUESS WHAT HEALY WILL BE OUR MAYOR IN NOVEMEBER I JUST SAW A POLL! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get over it. posted Message 7214 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 12:44:09 Subject: Re: Kerry Might Be a Flip Flopper You people with these ridiculous charges and counter charges are really pathetic. There isn't a single post here about real issues. Just garbage about sexual preferences and drunks and personal attacks. Jersey City.... you get what you deserve. Maybe McCann ought to be allowed to run the city again. At least then you knew who to keep an eye on. : The Kerry campaign must have gone ballistic when they found out about Healy trying to get pulled by Kerry's coatails without permission. : Leave it to Jerry, anything to avoid campaigning. : : I heard that the KERRY FOR PRESIDENT organization contacted HEALY FOR MAYOR and told them to stop using Senator Kerry's name in the local campaign. This is what I meant by "bad vibes." : : : Doubt that there are any bad vibes. Kerry WILL be elected president unless the Supreme Court gets involved again. : : : : Last week, I noticed that the new Healy house signs had KERRY on top. : : : : Today, I saw some new signs without the KERRY. Closer inspection reveals a jagged edge. Was KERRY removed? What gives? Is the rumor of bad vibes from KERRY FOR PRESIDENT true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gerry Get bent. posted Message 7215 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 12:44:49 Subject: Re: Healy a wife beater ? More McCann garbage. : Healy supposedly beat up his wife. I know the family has a history of drinking problems so it doesn't suprise me that this had happened. Alcohol is the root of all evil. I would not vote for someone who goes likes impair his ability to make proper decisions. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim McGrevey posted Message 7216 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 12:49:25 Subject: Come out of the Closet Lou....you'll feel better Come on Lou. You can come out of the closet. I did. And you know something...I feel better about myself. And you know...your community will accept you if you do. But if you stay hidden away in that closet, you will be vulnerable to blackmail...just like me. And in Hudson County if you do get elected you know there will be scoundrels with cameras waiting for you and Danny around every corner. Just a word of advise from a soon-to-be ex-governor... come clean with your constituents now before they feel that you've betrayed them because you kept it secret. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JJ - Manzo +8% posted Message 7217 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 13:10:28 Subject: Was that a Barber Poll Stop playing with your poll. : : OH COME ON.. WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO COME UP WITH NEXT! YOU ARE PATHETIC AND WILL TRY ANYTHING BUT GUESS WHAT HEALY WILL BE OUR MAYOR IN NOVEMEBER I JUST SAW A POLL! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 7218 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 13:11:29 Subject: Hooray for Jim Kennelly ! We evil liberals have to stick together. :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sober Up and Put Your clothes Back On posted Message 7219 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 13:12:12 Subject: Re: Come out of the Bar Jerry....you'll Do you want a mayor who can't find the bathroom? : Come on Lou. You can come out of the closet. I did. And you know something...I feel better about myself. And you know...your community will accept you if you do. : But if you stay hidden away in that closet, you will be vulnerable to blackmail...just like me. And in Hudson County if you do get elected you know there will be scoundrels with cameras waiting for you and Danny around every corner. : Just a word of advise from a soon-to-be ex-governor... come clean with your constituents now before they feel that you've betrayed them because you kept it secret. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McScum McScam posted Message 7220 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 13:13:53 Subject: Re: McCann has a ton of stuff on Smiling Willie Thats ok Ron has plenty of stuff on them. Now that it is over for him, ALL the good stuff will be on TV and in the press! Let's go to video tape! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Are You Going to Dock His Pay? posted Message 7221 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 13:13:55 Subject: Tom DeGise : He really has degise rolling over.Watch this guy real close.He is a far out left wing nut case. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Judge and Jury posted Message 7222 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 13:46:46 Subject: An outsider's view of it all I come from Cook County. That's Chicago for those of you who don't know how to use a map. Now I live here because I got transferred to NYC. Being from Chicago I'm used to low-blow politics. I'm used to charges of patronage and other political junk. But you folks here in Hudson take the cake. In Cook County we followed the slow demise of Hudson County as a democratic power base for the past 10 years. First with that McCann guy going to jail. Then with Schundler.. a REPUBLICAN... getting the support of the County Dems. Its no wonder that you now have one of his proteges as County Executive. I find it amazing that the State Democrats haven't stepped in to take away the patronage jobs of any Democrat from this community. As Democrats you people are a disgrace. You ought to hang your heads in shame. In Cook County we throw some mud, and even some tar and feathers now and then. But most of it has some basis in truth or fact. You people call each other such vile things and attack people's parents and children. Its a disgusting display of the worst in Democratic politics. Jersey City... you get what you deserve. Maybe your ex-Mayor McCann ought to be allowed to run the city again. At least then you'll know who to keep an eye on. ***************** End Of Article ****************** timmy johnson posted Message 7223 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 13:58:28 Subject: jersey city election This election has turned into a joke we all no manzo could never win an election on his own,why doesnt Jerry Mccann get a life and stop looking in peoples garbage and do something else in his life besides polotics,you talk abouy healy being drunk mcann lives in bars himand all his followers are nothing but cokeheads we all no after this election healy brennan gaughan lipski will be sitting in brennans pub celabrating healys victory and maybe brennan will smack mccann again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Property Owers posted Message 7224 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 14:38:02 Subject: Get out of JC while you can get some value for homes I have never seen anything like this bunch that are running.i think we need the feds to take this town Over.There is very little hope for any property ower and taxpayer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hard Campaining posted Message 7225 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 15:10:33 Subject: Hard campaigning pays off for Manzo He out worked all of them. And is now set to be the next Mayor of jersey City. Its all over but the shouting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Down with Manzo posted Message 7226 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 16:08:16 Subject: Re: Hard campaigning pays off for Manzo I think you forgot to take your drugs, bad, bad, boy!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Primo posted Message 7227 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 16:27:29 Subject: Bret Schundler in the Hospital The story has been going around all day that Bret Schundler was in the hospital. Some was saying that he had chest pains and maybe a heart attack. Other people said that it was just tests. Does anybody know which was true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** MANZO WATCHER posted Message 7228 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 16:37:50 Subject: Re: Hard campaigning pays off for Manzo HEALY IS AHEAD IN ALL POLES FROM 14 POINTS BEHIND 3 WEEKS AGO LOU MANZO IS ALSO RANZO AGAIN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Proctologist posted Message 7229 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 16:40:09 Subject: Re: Bret Schundler in the Hospital 3 gerbals and 4 carrots were removed from his rectum : The story has been going around all day that Bret Schundler was in the hospital. Some was saying that he had chest pains and maybe a heart attack. Other people said that it was just tests. Does anybody know which was true? ***************** End Of Article ****************** MANO WATCHER posted Message 7230 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 16:43:25 Subject: Re: McCann has a ton of stuff on Smiling Willie WILLIE AND HEALY THE 2 CLEANEST AND HONEST ON THE BALLOT FORGET MCMANZO MCCANN A PIECE OF $HIT CONVICT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALYWINNER posted Message 7231 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 16:49:17 Subject: FLASH HEALY AHEAD ON ALL NEW POLLS. JERRAMIAH HEALY IS NOW AHEAD OF ALL CANDIDATES FOR MAYOR ON ALL NEW POLLS TAKEN THIS WEEK BY MENENDEZ/DORIA/SMITH/LIPSKI MANZO IS 2ND SMITH 3RD HEALY HEADED FOR VICTORY ON NOV 2ND. ***************** End Of Article ****************** B. MEYERS posted Message 7232 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 16:55:59 Subject: HCDO CANDIDATE HEALY STEPS TO THE FRONT HCDO CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR JERRAMIAH HEALY HAS STEPPED OUT IN FRONT IN THE LATEST POLLS OF 4 DIFFERANT POLLSTERS. AS WE GET IN TO THE STRETCH MANY NEW PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING HEALY IN HIS 2ND BID FOR MAYOR. LOU MANZO ON HIS 4TH TRY IS STARTING TO LAG BEHIND. MANZO HAS A LOOK OF PEAKING EARLY AND HEALY PICKING UP STEAM INTO THE FINISH. ***************** End Of Article ****************** what are the #'s posted Message 7233 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 16:59:42 Subject: Re: FLASH HEALY AHEAD ON ALL NEW POLLS. : JERRAMIAH HEALY IS NOW AHEAD OF ALL CANDIDATES FOR MAYOR : ON ALL NEW POLLS TAKEN THIS WEEK BY MENENDEZ/DORIA/SMITH/LIPSKI : MANZO IS 2ND SMITH 3RD HEALY HEADED FOR VICTORY ON NOV 2ND. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loveplum Larry posted Message 7234 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 17:04:35 Subject: Re: Bret Schundler in the Hospital Heard the same, heard rumors that it was a stroke, the anxiety attack, doubt both. But it couldn't have been a heart attack, because Bret has no heart! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Beefcake McMann posted Message 7235 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 17:08:41 Subject: Gender Bender Lou We will say anything to discredit our opponents! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7236 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 17:13:05 Subject: Sandra Cunningham endorsed Willie Flood for Mayor At a noon press conference today, Sandra Cunningham endorsed Willie Flood for Mayor of Jersey City. I saw NJN there. The event will probably be covered on Channel 13 at 5:30PM today and on Comcast Channel 50 (NJN) at 7:30PM, 11:00PM and 6:30AM on Friday. I'll post pictures and a video clip as soon as possible. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7237 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 18:08:37 Subject: Online Video: Sandra Cunningham Endorses Willie Flood for Mayor of Jersey City Sandra Cunningham also answers a question about Lou Manzo's support of Joe Doria for the State Senate in the 31st District. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerzzycity posted Message 7238 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 18:37:42 Subject: LIPSKI ripping up the field Lipski is out there like there is no tomorrow. Forget about it. He's gonna win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yeah right posted Message 7239 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 19:38:02 Subject: Re: LIPSKI ripping up the field Lipski's out there alright and for him there is no tomorrow. Word Steve - don't wear shorts. : Lipski is out there like there is no tomorrow. Forget about it. He's gonna win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amen to that! posted Message 7240 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 20:03:58 Subject: Re: An outsider's view of it all You really hit the nail on the head. I moved here from Chicago too and this place sickens me! I've always heard the Hudson County was legendary but I had no idea til I moved here. What a piece of work this place is! : I come from Cook County. That's Chicago for those of you who don't know how to use a map. Now I live here because I got transferred to NYC. Being from Chicago I'm used to low-blow politics. I'm used to charges of patronage and other political junk. But you folks here in Hudson take the cake. : In Cook County we followed the slow demise of Hudson County as a democratic power base for the past 10 years. First with that McCann guy going to jail. Then with Schundler.. a REPUBLICAN... getting the support of the County Dems. Its no wonder that you now have one of his proteges as County Executive. : I find it amazing that the State Democrats haven't stepped in to take away the patronage jobs of any Democrat from this community. As Democrats you people are a disgrace. You ought to hang your heads in shame. : In Cook County we throw some mud, and even some tar and feathers now and then. But most of it has some basis in truth or fact. You people call each other such vile things and attack people's parents and children. Its a disgusting display of the worst in Democratic politics. Jersey City... you get what you deserve. : Maybe your ex-Mayor McCann ought to be allowed to run the city again. At least then you'll know who to keep an eye on. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SHow the Numbers! posted Message 7241 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 21:57:14 Subject: Where is Your Data The JJ poll has Manzo up by 8 points. What pollsters are you talking about? Are they regulars at the Astor Bar or are they legit polling organizations? Try getting out and campaigning, maybe your guy would have a chance/. Lets see some references to these polls. healy is a three time loser. : HCDO CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR JERRAMIAH HEALY HAS STEPPED OUT IN FRONT IN THE LATEST POLLS OF 4 DIFFERANT POLLSTERS. : AS WE GET IN TO THE STRETCH MANY NEW PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING HEALY IN HIS 2ND BID FOR MAYOR. : LOU MANZO ON HIS 4TH TRY IS STARTING TO LAG BEHIND. : MANZO HAS A LOOK OF PEAKING EARLY AND HEALY PICKING UP STEAM INTO THE FINISH. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rehab posted Message 7242 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 21:58:31 Subject: Healy is headed for WhAT A POOR EXCUSE FOR A CANDIDATE. : : JERRAMIAH HEALY IS NOW AHEAD OF ALL CANDIDATES FOR MAYOR : : ON ALL NEW POLLS TAKEN THIS WEEK BY MENENDEZ/DORIA/SMITH/LIPSKI : : MANZO IS 2ND SMITH 3RD HEALY HEADED FOR VICTORY ON NOV 2ND. ***************** End Of Article ****************** melman posted Message 7243 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 22:03:04 Subject: Re: Sandra Cunningham endorsed Willie Flood for Mayor : who cares she has no credibility after her last endorsement of ronnie. sandy is a forgotten turncoatshe should stay with drayton and leave jersey city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** kNOCK OFF THE PHONEY ALIAS posted Message 7244 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 22:03:15 Subject: cHICAGO mY a$$ jc IS NO WORSE THAN CHICAGO.. WHAT;S HIS NAME ROSTENKOWSKI? WE HAVE JANISZEWSKI. AND JANISZEWSKI IS STILL IN CONTROL. LOOK AT ALL THE NO BID CONTRACTS AWARDED TO JANISZEWSKI VENDORS. BOBBY IS LIVING LARGE. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT TALK TO TOM DEGISE, HE PRESIDES OVER ALL OF THIS. JT : You really hit the nail on the head. I moved here from Chicago too and this place sickens me! I've always heard the Hudson County was legendary but I had no idea til I moved here. : What a piece of work this place is! : : I come from Cook County. That's Chicago for those of you who don't know how to use a map. Now I live here because I got transferred to NYC. Being from Chicago I'm used to low-blow politics. I'm used to charges of patronage and other political junk. But you folks here in Hudson take the cake. : : In Cook County we followed the slow demise of Hudson County as a democratic power base for the past 10 years. First with that McCann guy going to jail. Then with Schundler.. a REPUBLICAN... getting the support of the County Dems. Its no wonder that you now have one of his proteges as County Executive. : : I find it amazing that the State Democrats haven't stepped in to take away the patronage jobs of any Democrat from this community. As Democrats you people are a disgrace. You ought to hang your heads in shame. : : In Cook County we throw some mud, and even some tar and feathers now and then. But most of it has some basis in truth or fact. You people call each other such vile things and attack people's parents and children. Its a disgusting display of the worst in Democratic politics. Jersey City... you get what you deserve. : : Maybe your ex-Mayor McCann ought to be allowed to run the city again. At least then you'll know who to keep an eye on. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RELEVANCE posted Message 7245 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 22:04:27 Subject: Re: Sandra Cunningham HAS NO SHE LOST ALL RESPECT WITH HER SUPPORT FOR RON THE CON. WHO CARES WHAT SHE DOES. : who cares she has no credibility after her last : endorsement of ronnie. sandy is a forgotten turncoatshe should stay with drayton and leave jersey city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HOW MUCH DID YOU MAKE ? BARNEY posted Message 7246 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 22:07:10 Subject: Re: LIPSKI ONE OF THE FLINTSTONES : Lipski's out there alright and for him there is no tomorrow. : Word Steve - don't wear shorts. : : Lipski is out there like there is no tomorrow. Forget about it. He's gonna win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MAJOR TOM posted Message 7247 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 22:08:09 Subject: Re: Where is Your Data JJ POLL IS USELESS HEALY IS DEFINATELY UP ON MANZO. JJ HEADLINE ON NOVEMBER 3RD (HEALY WINS BIG!!!) MANZO ALSO RANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** kokie posted Message 7248 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 22:20:03 Subject: Re: LIPSKI ONE OF THE BEST Yeah you prehistoric thinking mother f*$#@! Lipski's stuff is mile high and you can't even touch it. When Lipski is mayor is banning your use of cartoons. ***************** End Of Article ****************** dailleztbabyboy posted Message 7249 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 22:22:22 Subject: Re: LIPSKI's the man to beat All you guys fight while Lipski campaigns that is why he's gonna win. Watch out!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** missin jimmy posted Message 7250 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 22:39:46 Subject: manzo signs manzo signs everywhere. Where's Dickson? Bikey broke? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 7251 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 22:43:34 Subject: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest They really need to keep the inmates away from the computers at the asylum. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 7252 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 22:49:22 Subject: I smell a conspiracy The same people who got Cunningham got Schundler. Who is next ??? Bwahahahahahahaha !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Complete sentences posted Message 7253 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 07, 2004 at 22:51:36 Subject: Like Sen John edwards said today in Bayonne After watching this Flood video, Sen Edwards words ring true: Learn to speak in complete sentences. Sandra won't campaign for her but will support her? Huh? No Sizzle only Fizzle! ***************** End Of Article ****************** EVERYWHERE posted Message 7254 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 00:10:58 Subject: Re: manzo VOTES : manzo signs everywhere. Where's Dickson? Bikey broke? ***************** End Of Article ****************** YOU ARE IN DENIAL posted Message 7255 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 00:12:57 Subject: mAJOR TOM GIVE ME A BREAK! HEALY WILL GET LESS VOTES THAN MR PINE. : JJ POLL IS USELESS HEALY IS DEFINATELY UP ON MANZO. : JJ HEADLINE ON NOVEMBER 3RD (HEALY WINS BIG!!!) : MANZO ALSO RANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** IT COULD BE HIS PRETEGES posted Message 7256 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 00:15:34 Subject: Re: Bret Schundler in the Hospital HE MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN STRESSED OUT OVER THE PATHETIC JOB TOM DEGISE AND BILL GAUGHAN (HIS TWO A$$ WIPES ARE DOING. : Heard the same, heard rumors that it was a stroke, the anxiety attack, doubt both. : But it couldn't have been a heart attack, because Bret has no heart! ***************** End Of Article ****************** OF THE BAR posted Message 7257 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 00:18:21 Subject: Re: HEALY WOULDN;T GET OUT JERRY, YOU GOT NO GUTS, AND ITS SHOWING. 'TIE A YELLOW RIBBON ON THE OLD BAR STOOL'. : He out worked all of them. And is now set to be the next Mayor of jersey City. Its all over but the shouting. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Ghost of Wally Shiels posted Message 7258 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 01:36:37 Subject: Manzo Signs If only Manzo Signs could vote.. sigh.... ***************** End Of Article ****************** How's he gonna win? posted Message 7259 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 06:31:29 Subject: Re: LIPSKI's the man to beat :::The kids at the school aint old enough to vote. How much extra credit do they get Steve for posting the tripe? : All you guys fight while Lipski campaigns that is why he's gonna win. Watch out!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Did you know posted Message 7260 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 06:35:34 Subject: Re: Like Sen John edwards said today in Bayonne :::That if you tied Edwards hands behind his back, he would not be able to talk? Watching him in the debate the other night, all any intelligent people could think of was the song, Where is Thumbkin, where is Thumbkin Here I am, here I am How are you today sir Very well, I thank you Run away, run away : After watching this Flood video, Sen Edwards words ring true: : Learn to speak in complete sentences. : : Sandra won't campaign for her but will support her? Huh? : No Sizzle only Fizzle! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 7261 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 07:42:48 Subject: Re: manzo signs :::I want to say baby that it is sooooooooo good having you home at night taking care of your husbandly duties. See didnt I tell you it would be? Daddy dont mind if you aint cutting down Manzo signs. Its nice to open the car door and not have them fall out. I will keep the beer cold for you baby. : manzo signs everywhere. Where's Dickson? Bikey broke? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Schundler posted Message 7262 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 09:39:33 Subject: Schundler Chest pains send Schundler to hospital Ex-Jersey City mayor at Med Center for tests Friday, October 08, 2004 By Jason Fink Journal staff writer Former Jersey City Mayor Bret Schundler was hospitalized Wednesday after suffering chest pains, his spokesman said yesterday. Schundler, who is seeking the Republican nomination for governor next year, did not have a heart attack, said his spokesman, Sal Risalvato. He remained at the Jersey City Medical Center last night and was undergoing tests, Risalvato said. Information from Our Advertisers » New Vehicle Inventory » Pre-Owned Inventory » Weekly Newspaper Ad "He felt some pains" Wednesday night, said Risalvato. "They are doing tests." Schundler drove himself to the Medi- cal Center and did not call an ambulance, Risalvato said. A spokeswoman for the Medical Center, Sally Deering, said yesterday that Schundler is in "good condition," but that he would remain there for the night. "They think he has some kind of irritation in his esophagus," said Risalvato, who added that he had canceled an appointment Schundler had for this morning but that he did not know how long he would be in the hospital. Schundler's wife, Lynn, was there with him last night, said Risalvato. Schundler, 46, was first elected mayor in a 1992 special election and then won two four-year terms, in 1993 and 1997. He won the Republican nomination for governor in 2001 but lost in the general election to Gov. James E. McGreevey. His successor as mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham, died after suffering a massive heart attack on May 25. McGreevey, a Democrat, has announced that he will resign on Nov. 15 and Schundler is expected to face several opponents in the June Republican primary. Jason Fink can be reached at jfink@jjournal.com. ***************** End Of Article ****************** kokie posted Message 7263 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 10:48:29 Subject: Lipski light of day Prince Lipski will win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7264 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 11:21:31 Subject: Online Video: Loews' Jersey City Debates On September 30, Pat O'Melia hosted and Earl Morgan and Ricardo Kaulessar moderated the Loews' Jersey City Mayoral Debates. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** SGHUVBEHJNM posted Message 7265 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 13:01:53 Subject: Re: Manzo Signs : YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tony Montana posted Message 7266 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 13:45:09 Subject: Lipski owes me money Nose Candy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reason posted Message 7267 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 13:53:56 Subject: Manzo, If you lose to Willie you will never get that ass seat again. You still have a chance to show people that U really care. Support Willie. Sandy has done it and so should you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Estatic posted Message 7268 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 14:01:33 Subject: THANK YOU Mrs Flood and Mrs Cunningham!!!!!! This is just what the creator ordered!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** not irreverend posted Message 7269 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 15:10:31 Subject: Re: THANK YOU Mrs Flood and Mrs Cunningham!!!!!! : This is just what the creator ordered!!!! ::::I think the Creator (capital C always) is neutral in this race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo's Minions posted Message 7270 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 15:23:18 Subject: Listen Up Junkies! Listen up Junkies. The bounty for Healy and Smith signs are going up from $1 to $2. Drop all signs in our usual location - Hutton Street HQ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** church lady posted Message 7271 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 15:49:02 Subject: Re: THANK YOU Mrs Flood and Mrs Cunningham!!!!!! : This is just what the creator ordered!!!! :::Blasphemer!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Willie posted Message 7272 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 17:06:46 Subject: Re: Manzo, If you lose to Willie you will never get that ass seat again. How does Willie feel about being a second choice? : You still have a chance to show people that U really care. Support Willie. Sandy has done it and so should you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7273 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 17:53:39 Subject: Jersey City Mayoral Race Featured on NJN The Jersey City Mayoral race is featured on NJN tonite on Comcast channel 50 at 7:30pm and 11:00pm The Jersey City race will also be featured on NJN on Comcast Channel 50 this Sunday at 9:00am and 11:00am and also this Monday at 6:30am. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who Supported Ron Bon? posted Message 7274 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 17:54:51 Subject: Mrs Cunningham!!!!!! - Good luck! SC's endorsement is worth less than what Ron Bon paid for his digs in JC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Playing Golf posted Message 7275 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 17:58:53 Subject: Is DeGise Campaigning for Healy or -- Where's DeGise in this campaign. How come he's not out stumping for Healy? Is he afraid because he know's Healy is going to lose? We will not let you forget Tom. Plan on playing goif with your consultants the day after the election. : HCDO CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR JERRAMIAH HEALY HAS STEPPED OUT IN FRONT IN THE LATEST POLLS OF 4 DIFFERANT POLLSTERS. : AS WE GET IN TO THE STRETCH MANY NEW PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING HEALY IN HIS 2ND BID FOR MAYOR. : LOU MANZO ON HIS 4TH TRY IS STARTING TO LAG BEHIND. : MANZO HAS A LOOK OF PEAKING EARLY AND HEALY PICKING UP STEAM INTO THE FINISH. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ggunit32687 posted Message 7276 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 18:50:30 Subject: Re: LIPSKI by a mile Lipski most articulate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** in the heights? posted Message 7277 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 20:11:34 Subject: How many votes for willie : How does Willie feel about being a second choice? : : You still have a chance to show people that U really care. Support Willie. Sandy has done it and so should you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Go F Yourself posted Message 7278 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 21:11:57 Subject: Re: Listen Up Junkies! You are just another example of the low-life welfare scum we need to ship off to Newark. Need a bus ticket? I'd be glad to supply it. : Listen up Junkies. : The bounty for Healy and Smith signs are going up from $1 to $2. : Drop all signs in our usual location - Hutton Street HQ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** PUUUULLLLEEZE.....lol posted Message 7279 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 22:38:40 Subject: Re: LIPSKI ripping up the field I guess all three people who clapped for Lipski at the debates are up with nothing to do tonight... His campaign is kind of "cute" but does anybody really take him seriously? Come on Steve, we know your just looking to build a chit to trade in for a job or some "consideration". I mean.... you don't really expect to be taken seriously with 4-5% do you? Go ahead Steve, throw your weight to someone while it still may have some value. Right now it could mean the difference. Think of it.... STEVE LIPSKI... KING MAKER!!! Unless its already too late to lock your voting lever... then your support ain't gonna mean much. And in the end you'll just be a loser. : Lipski is out there like there is no tomorrow. Forget about it. He's gonna win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 7280 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 08, 2004 at 23:13:17 Subject: The Creator huh Did the Creator tell Sandy to back Ron Bon ? Did the Creator tell Sandy not to give Willie any of the Cunningham campaign cash ? Did the Creator tell Sandy not to actively campaign for Willie ? Sounds like a cat fight brewing to me . ***************** End Of Article ****************** manzo watchers posted Message 7281 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 00:06:03 Subject: Re: Listen Up Junkies! harvey smith workers will be tearing down manzo and healy signe because they are the ones to beat. ***************** End Of Article ****************** wallysghost posted Message 7282 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 00:14:50 Subject: manzo signs will be down manzo signs will be coming down by the undreds. even the big one with the picture on the blvd & st pauls ave. a$100. bounty is on that one next to kings house. so mr king stay awake and guard your house signs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** wallysghost posted Message 7283 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 00:18:11 Subject: manzo sign crusade. for the next 3 weeks manzo signs will be coming down and nobody will stop the crusade because the law is with them. figure it out who got bounced from the race. lol lol lol ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yes!!!! posted Message 7284 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 07:32:49 Subject: Can't you idiots say something positive? You are only hurting yourself. Don't get mad because she's going to win. : This is just what the creator ordered!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter posted Message 7285 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 07:35:08 Subject: We have enough. Don't worry!! It really dosen't matter as long as we have it. : : How does Willie feel about being a second choice? : : : You still have a chance to show people that U really care. Support Willie. Sandy has done it and so should you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** We are here! posted Message 7286 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 07:38:24 Subject: No matter what they say Willie we are here!!They are just worried!!! They know you are going to win. That's why they are soooo upset and disrespecting you. : This is just what the creator ordered!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** See posted Message 7287 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 07:40:46 Subject: This is what Manzo thinks about the people of JC. No matter what u say we KNOW what u are about!!! I hate FROOTIE lou!! : Listen up Junkies. : The bounty for Healy and Smith signs are going up from $1 to $2. : Drop all signs in our usual location - Hutton Street HQ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Straights against manzo. posted Message 7288 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 07:43:28 Subject: Manzo looks at JC as a business opp. The contractors are lining up. Let him get in and this city will be one big mafia city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know posted Message 7289 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 07:44:50 Subject: Willie really cares about the City not the other candidates. They are all self serving. Except her. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Louie Wasted all his money. posted Message 7290 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 07:47:14 Subject: Re: Manzo, If you lose to Willie you will never get that ass seat again. Put all the signs you want people know u. And they know that you are a kiniving backstabbing double dealing CROOK. And u still won't win!!! : You still have a chance to show people that U really care. Support Willie. Sandy has done it and so should you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7291 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 07:48:08 Subject: Re: Listen Up Junkies! When was the last time you were in Newark? Nowadays, Sharpe James would put each and every knucklescraper on the PATH back to Jersey City so fast, you wouldn't have a chance to blink! : You are just another example of the low-life welfare scum we need to ship off to Newark. Need a bus ticket? I'd be glad to supply it. : : Listen up Junkies. : : The bounty for Healy and Smith signs are going up from $1 to $2. : : Drop all signs in our usual location - Hutton Street HQ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7292 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 09:13:36 Subject: 2001 Degise for Mayor Campaign Flyer While going through my files, I came across this mailer -- one of the first examples of hate literature used in Jersey City politics. This flyer is amazing for the amount of negative information that can be conveyed through a picture and just a few lines of text. The name "Cunningham" is in brown to hammer in the idea that Glenn as Mayor would represent only people of color. This divisive concept is underlined by the red of the bottom text, the black of the tenement, and the green of the top text, the colors of the African-American Flag. The distorted image of Glenn is set in front of a dilapidated dwelling on the left and something like City Hall on the right. This is to provide a subliminal message that electing Glenn Cunningham would mean the slums taking over City Government. Caucasian residents were supposed to be frightened into voting for a "White" Knight -- Tom DeGise. ***************** End Of Article ****************** kokie posted Message 7293 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 10:08:03 Subject: LIPSKI KICKED TAIL AND TOOK NAMES IN THE DEBATE Lipski is rising! Watch out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Suddendly Camera Shy posted Message 7294 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 10:35:27 Subject: Edwards in Bayonne - HCDO in Hiding What happended to all the HCDO Leaders - Apparently they were not welcomed to John Edwards Bayonne Visit. All I saw was Joe Doria ..... he was just a wall flower ... a VERY LARGE WALL FLOWER........LOL Didn't see Congressman Menendez - kinda strange or is it? By the Way --- Edwards Visit was at the Royal Carribean Port - Royal Carribean is one of Bob Menendez's gal pal Kay Licausi Million Dollar Clients...... Time to Play Connect the Dots......... Remember RULE # 1 ..... It's PAY TO KAY !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7295 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 10:44:21 Subject: Jersey Journal: Political Insider: Healy's Kerry For President Signs . . . Healy has campaign posters up around the city with Democratic Party presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry and Healy's name on them. The special mayoral election is nonpartisan, but Healy still chose to identify himself with Kerry. "Our candidate supports John Kerry," said Healy spokeswoman Maria Pignataro. "He supports all the Democratic candidates." State Democratic Party campaign officials were careful about saying whether Healy had permission to use the Kerry name in a nonpartisan election. They preferred to discuss the issue in general terms and in relation to federal campaign finance law. What it comes down to is that the posters with Kerry's name on them must have been paid for by the federal candidate. What do you think are the chances of that happening? . . . For the complete piece, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Mean Homophobes For Healy posted Message 7296 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 11:27:27 Subject: Re: Manzo looks at JC as a business opp. The contractors are lining up. You can't get off the gay/straight thing. Its all you know. Boring, really boring, just like your candidate. hey. look at the top of this message board, Jerry has something to say about his 'campaign'. : Let him get in and this city will be one big mafia city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** To Get a County Contract posted Message 7297 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 11:33:26 Subject: Play With Kay All vendors seeking lurative county contracts must first submit application with Kay Licausi. Applicants must demostrate in writing EXACTLY what they they will kick back to Kay for handling the application and to the HCDO for obtaining the apporval of the Freeholder Board. Please note, individual Freeholders may also request applications to be filed. Relevate experience with respect to the contract desired in not important. : What happended to all the HCDO Leaders - Apparently they were not welcomed to John Edwards Bayonne Visit. : All I saw was Joe Doria ..... he was just a wall flower ... a VERY LARGE WALL FLOWER........LOL Didn't see Congressman Menendez - kinda strange or is it? : By the Way --- Edwards Visit was at the Royal Carribean Port - Royal Carribean is one of Bob Menendez's gal pal Kay Licausi Million Dollar Clients...... : Time to Play Connect the Dots......... : Remember RULE # 1 ..... It's PAY TO KAY !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Out of Control posted Message 7298 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 11:55:40 Subject: Jerry Healy That's a shocking quote on the top of this web page. It confirms that Jerry Healy has a alcohol problem and that its pretty serious since he admits he didn;t even know how he wound up nude and on the back porch. People who can't remember what they did after consuming too much alcohol are in the end stages of the disease and need immediate medical attention.. Whoever is running Healy's campaign should forget about the campaign and get the guy some help. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Himself posted Message 7299 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 11:58:12 Subject: Re: Healy Beat healy in big trouble, New York Times article about his drinking! Not good. : harvey smith workers will be tearing down manzo and healy signe because they are the ones to beat. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So Does Gaugham, DeGise Buddy posted Message 7300 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 13:16:33 Subject: Healy Needs Rehab HCDO'S Healy is in dire need of Detox and Rehab ....... throw in DeGise , Gaugham and Demeliere and they should get a group rate : That's a shocking quote on the top of this web page. : It confirms that Jerry Healy has a alcohol problem and that its pretty serious since he admits he didn;t even know how he wound up nude and on the back porch. : People who can't remember what they did after consuming too much alcohol are in the end stages of the disease and need immediate medical attention.. Whoever is running Healy's campaign should forget about the campaign and get the guy some help. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Goldie Sacks posted Message 7301 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 13:33:36 Subject: Re: Healy Needs Rehab I gotta give Jerry credit for being honest... ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7302 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 14:15:27 Subject: NJN Video Online: Jersey City Mayoral Election Michael Aron covers the candidates for Mayor of Jersey City. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7303 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 14:26:23 Subject: Drunken Jamie from the Howard Stern Show Supports Healy For Mayor A few weeks ago, I ran into the Howard Stern Show's Drunken Jamie, an associate of Beetlejuice. Drunken Jamie was campaigning for Jerry Healy for Mayor of Jersey City. Jamie went on to say that only Bill Gaughan could save Jersey City from Congressman Menendez. I asked him to elaborate on that statement, but he refused. Drunken Jamie is pictured above. He appears in videos with Beetlejuice. Drunken Jamie imbibes immoderately and is unclad in the video. No, I'm not making this up! To learn more about Drunken Jamie and Beetlejuice -- if you are over 18 years of age -- click on the Link below. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 7304 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 15:53:45 Subject: I can positively say .. that Willie is an addle-brained moron who is going to lose. The Creator told me so. Bwahahahahahahaha !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 7305 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 15:55:18 Subject: You continue to sink to new lows .. Anthony. But why are we not surprised ??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7306 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 16:27:22 Subject: Drunken Jamie's says he's for Healy. : Anthony. : But why are we not surprised ??? Drunken Jamie's says he's for Healy. That's what he told me. If you's ain't happy with that, don't start takin' it out on the messenger. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'll Give you Credit for That! posted Message 7307 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 19:29:30 Subject: Re: Healy Needs Rehab But for the guy to admit it, its a big cry for help. i hope his family and friends do the right thing. The guy is in desperate trouble. : I gotta give Jerry credit for being honest... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who Else? Come On Tommy DeGise, Stand Up Like a Man posted Message 7308 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 19:33:48 Subject: Re: Drunken Jamie's says he's for Healy. Let's see some leadership from Tom DeGise on this stunning admission from Jerry Healy. Jerry had the guts to admit he has a problem, are you going to help him Tommy, or hope he gets elected so you can also run city hall at the beck and call of Boss Menendez. Tommy, were waiting to hear from you? Tick, Tick, Tick .. . .. . . . : Anthony. : : But why are we not surprised ??? : Drunken Jamie's says he's for Healy. That's what he told me. If you's ain't happy with that, don't start takin' it out on the messenger. ***************** End Of Article ****************** From the DeGise Crew posted Message 7309 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 19:41:12 Subject: Re: Healy Needs Rehab It doesn't matter that Jerry Healy is in dire straits. That's why we picked him to run for mayor, because we are the HCDO. The people of hudson county love us, no matter how many no bid contracts we give out. Its a good thing that Chris Christy bagged so many trophies in Hudson County. He thinks the rest of us thieves who are govening HC have found God and are doing the right thing. Boy, its good Chris Christy is so naieve. Were hoping that Jerry goes right into detox after he is sworn in, so we can run the show from 595 Newark Ave, We have Buddy who can sit down in Grove St., and Billy G who can be at the county taking his calls and passing on the messages to Tommy while he is playing golf and taking in campaign contributions. Its a beautiful thing, ... how stupid the voters of hudson county are. : HCDO'S Healy is in dire need of Detox and Rehab ....... throw in DeGise , Gaugham and Demeliere and they should get a group rate : : That's a shocking quote on the top of this web page. : : It confirms that Jerry Healy has a alcohol problem and that its pretty serious since he admits he didn;t even know how he wound up nude and on the back porch. : : People who can't remember what they did after consuming too much alcohol are in the end stages of the disease and need immediate medical attention.. Whoever is running Healy's campaign should forget about the campaign and get the guy some help. ***************** End Of Article ****************** making Money posted Message 7310 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 19:44:59 Subject: Willie really cares about Bring back Sandra and Gene, the Dream Team to show her hwo its done. : oneThey are all self serving. Except her. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Outside of her ward posted Message 7311 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 19:47:18 Subject: Re: How many votes for willie Is she campaiging in the Heights, Downtown? Don't see any signs or signs of her???????? : : How does Willie feel about being a second choice? : : : You still have a chance to show people that U really care. Support Willie. Sandy has done it and so should you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where Are You? posted Message 7312 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 19:53:03 Subject: Tony AMabile Hey Tony, how about earning some of the money the Healy campaign is paying to be their spokesmen, instead of taking your squeeze Bette Spinelli out to dinner in NYC? A bombshell hit today and what do you do? NOTHING! I'am gonna call Sal Vega up and get your contract terminated. THat will get your attention! And Mayor Roberts too! And . ..... (you fill in the blanks, how many more politican contracts do you have?) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fair Balanced posted Message 7313 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 19:59:34 Subject: Re: Tony AMabile : Hey Tony, how about earning some of the money the Healy campaign is paying to be their spokesmen, instead of taking your squeeze Bette Spinelli out to dinner in NYC? : A bombshell hit today and what do you do? NOTHING! : I'am gonna call Sal Vega up and get your contract terminated. : THat will get your attention! And Mayor Roberts too! : And . ..... (you fill in the blanks, how many more politican contracts do you have?) While you are pondering that question, Tony, here is another one. How can you criticize Steve Lipski from receiving campaign contributions from developers when all of Healy's money is coming from County vendors? Bobby J style, you big hypocrite. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ggunit32687 posted Message 7314 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 20:36:03 Subject: Re: Tony Baloney Amabile What does Tony think about thoday's New York Times. Does he support Harvey Smith because aside from Lipski and Manzo who hehas bashed that's all that is left, except Willie. But will TONY BALONEY ENDORSE A BLACK. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Citizen's Watchgroup posted Message 7315 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 20:38:02 Subject: Kerry/Healy hiccup! Does Jerry remember endorsing Kerry? ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerzzycity posted Message 7316 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 20:40:15 Subject: LIPSKI to pick up the Healy pieces When Healy implodes, Lipski will be there to smash Manzo and save the day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Goes Thru Peoples Garbage Cans - How Appropiate posted Message 7317 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 20:44:24 Subject: Tony AMabile = Low Life Slime Ball : Hey Tony, how about earning some of the money the Healy campaign is paying to be their spokesmen, instead of taking your squeeze Bette Spinelli out to dinner in NYC? : A bombshell hit today and what do you do? NOTHING! : I'am gonna call Sal Vega up and get your contract terminated. : THat will get your attention! And Mayor Roberts too! : And . ..... (you fill in the blanks, how many more politican contracts do you have?) ***************** End Of Article ****************** kokie posted Message 7318 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 20:45:32 Subject: Re: County looking to Lipski as alternate Maybe the County will wake up and see that Lipski poised to take the election. Then maybe there will be true peace. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC Watchdog posted Message 7319 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 20:53:40 Subject: Re: Play With Kay We'll try this again: I thought this website needed written proof of criminality before any accusations can be posted. It seems to me that the mention of "kickback" is an accusation of criminal activity. What do you say to that, Anthony? : All vendors seeking lurative county contracts must first submit application with Kay Licausi. Applicants must demostrate in writing EXACTLY what they they will kick back to Kay for handling the application and to the HCDO for obtaining the apporval of the Freeholder Board. Please note, individual Freeholders may also request applications to be filed. : Relevate experience with respect to the contract desired in not important. : : : What happended to all the HCDO Leaders - Apparently they were not welcomed to John Edwards Bayonne Visit. : : All I saw was Joe Doria ..... he was just a wall flower ... a VERY LARGE WALL FLOWER........LOL Didn't see Congressman Menendez - kinda strange or is it? : : By the Way --- Edwards Visit was at the Royal Carribean Port - Royal Carribean is one of Bob Menendez's gal pal Kay Licausi Million Dollar Clients...... : : Time to Play Connect the Dots......... : : Remember RULE # 1 ..... It's PAY TO KAY !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** MAYORLIPSKI posted Message 7320 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 20:56:45 Subject: COUNTY COURTING LIPSKI LIPSKI TO PICK UP WHERE HEALY HAS LEFT OFF. LIPSKI AND HEALY PERFECT TOGETHER! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BIRTHDAY SUIT posted Message 7321 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 21:02:39 Subject: Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, and Johnny Walker endorse Healy Now the rest are liquored! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Always Remember - it's - Pay To Kay posted Message 7322 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 21:11:00 Subject: Where's Menendez ? Where was Congessman Bob Menendez when Vice Presidential Candidate Joe Edwards came to Hudson COunty ?????? What happended to all the HCDO Leaders - Apparently they were not welcomed to John Edwards Bayonne Visit. All I saw was Joe Doria ..... he was just a wall flower ... a VERY LARGE WALL FLOWER........LOL By the Way --- Edwards Visit was at the Royal Carribean Port - Royal Carribean is one of Bob Menendez's gal pal Kay Licausi Million Dollar Clients...... Time to Play Connect the Dots......... Remember RULE # 1 ..... It's PAY TO KAY !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Flintstones posted Message 7323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 21:11:16 Subject: Re: COUNTY COURTING LIPSKI Who cares who is elected mayor. these two guys can go to the bank. : LIPSKI TO PICK UP WHERE HEALY HAS LEFT OFF. LIPSKI AND HEALY PERFECT TOGETHER! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Has a Lip Lock on DeGise and Menedez posted Message 7324 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 21:12:57 Subject: Re: LIPSKI He's kissing Toomy and Bobby's feet as we speak. : When Healy implodes, Lipski will be there to smash Manzo and save the day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He''ll Do ANything for Money posted Message 7325 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 21:16:48 Subject: Re: Tony Baloney Amabile Amabile will prostitute himself for money, Doesn't matter who is writing the check. But I doubt Harvey would take him in. REMEMBER, he is a Tom DeGise Toady and Lackie. Hey Tony! what are you going to do when your contracts are canceled. Will Bette keep you around? : What does Tony think about thoday's New York Times. Does he support Harvey Smith because aside from Lipski and Manzo who hehas bashed that's all that is left, except Willie. But will TONY BALONEY ENDORSE A BLACK. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kerry wouldn't associate himself with Menedez-The Slim posted Message 7326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 21:18:03 Subject: Re: Where's Menendez ? : Where was Congessman Bob Menendez when Vice Presidential Candidate Joe Edwards came to Hudson COunty ?????? : What happended to all the HCDO Leaders - Apparently they were not welcomed to John Edwards Bayonne Visit. : All I saw was Joe Doria ..... he was just a wall flower ... a VERY LARGE WALL FLOWER........LOL : By the Way --- Edwards Visit was at the Royal Carribean Port - Royal Carribean is one of Bob Menendez's gal pal Kay Licausi Million Dollar Clients...... : Time to Play Connect the Dots......... : Remember RULE # 1 ..... It's PAY TO KAY !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Feel Sorry for Him posted Message 7327 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 21:19:46 Subject: Jerry is Finished Jerry is gone. I hope he can get through the rehab. It just shows how disguisting the HCDO really is. : Now the rest are liquored! ***************** End Of Article ****************** And His Girfirend is on the Payroll Too! posted Message 7328 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 21:22:28 Subject: Re: Tony AMabile : : Hey Tony, how about earning some of the money the Healy campaign is paying to be their spokesmen, instead of taking your squeeze Bette Spinelli out to dinner in NYC? : : A bombshell hit today and what do you do? NOTHING! : : I'am gonna call Sal Vega up and get your contract terminated. : : THat will get your attention! And Mayor Roberts too! : : And . ..... (you fill in the blanks, how many more politican contracts do you have?) : While you are pondering that question, Tony, here is another one. How can you criticize Steve Lipski from receiving campaign contributions from developers when all of Healy's money is coming from County vendors? Bobby J style, you big hypocrite. And his main squeeze Bette Spinelli is getting $135,000 per year from the county. What does this broad do besides making reservations? NOTHING? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy Pulls Out of the Race posted Message 7329 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 21:26:39 Subject: Is it True? The Healy brain-trust (I know that's a strech) are deciding wether to pull Jerry from the race and get him into a hospital. DeGise wants him to keep running till he drops. Figures he can make it to the election then he will put him away. waY TO GO TOMMY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC Watchdog posted Message 7330 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 21:38:02 Subject: Re: Where's Menendez ? Okay - here we go again... Congressman Menendez was in Washington D.C., voting and doing his job as our representative. If you only so Senator/Mayor Doria, then you either weren't there, or you are misleading everyone. County Executive DeGise, Chief of Staff / Councilman Gaughan, County Clerk Inclan, Councilman Campos (Hoboken) were all there. : Where was Congessman Bob Menendez when Vice Presidential Candidate Joe Edwards came to Hudson COunty ?????? : What happended to all the HCDO Leaders - Apparently they were not welcomed to John Edwards Bayonne Visit. : All I saw was Joe Doria ..... he was just a wall flower ... a VERY LARGE WALL FLOWER........LOL : By the Way --- Edwards Visit was at the Royal Carribean Port - Royal Carribean is one of Bob Menendez's gal pal Kay Licausi Million Dollar Clients...... : Time to Play Connect the Dots......... : Remember RULE # 1 ..... It's PAY TO KAY !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 7331 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 22:38:46 Subject: Nice Banner Keep that KERRY FOR PRESIDENT banner up for a while Anthony. Looks good. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 7332 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 22:45:51 Subject: Hooray for Joe Doria and Bob Menendez !!! Hooray for Joe Doria and Bob Menendez !!! Between the Hudson Bergen Light Rail, Royal Carribean Cruiseport and MOTBY Redelopment Plan, Bayonne is making great progress. Joe Doria shows what can occur when you have a competent Mayor/effective State Legislator working for a Hudson County City. Jersey City should be so lucky. Bob Menendez and Joe Doria have a great partnership and have done great things in Bayonne. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Friend OF Bill W. posted Message 7333 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 22:54:06 Subject: Healy is History Healy has drunk himself out of the race for Mayor. Put a fork in Healy........he's done . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Opps! I mean handling fee posted Message 7334 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 23:17:06 Subject: Re: Play With Kay - Kickback Yes, its called a handling fee, administration fee, gatekeeper fee, HCDO donation, etc etc. Kickback? Poor choice of words. Whats important is let's not forget where the cash (checks not accepted) is going. : We'll try this again: I thought this website needed written proof of criminality before any accusations can be posted. It seems to me that the mention of "kickback" is an accusation of criminal activity. What do you say to that, Anthony? : : All vendors seeking lurative county contracts must first submit application with Kay Licausi. Applicants must demostrate in writing EXACTLY what they they will kick back to Kay for handling the application and to the HCDO for obtaining the apporval of the Freeholder Board. Please note, individual Freeholders may also request applications to be filed. : : Relevate experience with respect to the contract desired in not important. : : : : : What happended to all the HCDO Leaders - Apparently they were not welcomed to John Edwards Bayonne Visit. : : : All I saw was Joe Doria ..... he was just a wall flower ... a VERY LARGE WALL FLOWER........LOL Didn't see Congressman Menendez - kinda strange or is it? : : : By the Way --- Edwards Visit was at the Royal Carribean Port - Royal Carribean is one of Bob Menendez's gal pal Kay Licausi Million Dollar Clients...... : : : Time to Play Connect the Dots......... : : : Remember RULE # 1 ..... It's PAY TO KAY !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** jambo posted Message 7335 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 09, 2004 at 23:22:21 Subject: Re: Healy is History healy is still in the race and winnind despite the lies about him and the misquotes in newspapers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY NOT A QUITTER posted Message 7336 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 00:08:50 Subject: HEALY CONTINUES. IF ANYONE THINKS JERRAMIAH HEALY IS QUITTING THIS CAMPAIGN WHILE HE IS WINNING IN ALL THE LATEST POLLS YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN. EVEN WHEN GERRY MCCANN CONTACTING ALL THE MEDIA ABOUT LIES AND SITUATIONS HE SET UP AGAINST HEALY. THERE WILL BE NO ENDING HEALYS CAMPAIGN. LOU MANZO AND THE CONVICTED FELON MCCANN AND THE REST OF THE FELONS ARE TRYING THERE BEST TO BEAT JERRY AND WONT SUCCEED. TEARING HEALY SIGNS FROM PRIVATE HOMES AND PUTTING MANZO SIGNS ON OUR LIGHT POLES WITH GLUE SO THEY CANT BE TAKEN DOWN WHAT A DISGRACE FOR THE APPEARANCE OF OUR GREAT CITY . THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. MANZO IS CREATING A MESS THE TAXPAYERS WILL HAVE TO PAY TO TAKE THEM DOWN.SO IT IS STILL HEALY ALL THE WAY.!!GO JERRY ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7337 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 00:14:33 Subject: Pay to play isn't a crime -- and that's the problem! Pay to play isn't a crime -- and that's the problem! : We'll try this again: I thought this website needed written proof of criminality before any accusations can be posted. It seems to me that the mention of "kickback" is an accusation of criminal activity. What do you say to that, Anthony? : : All vendors seeking lurative county contracts must first submit application with Kay Licausi. Applicants must demostrate in writing EXACTLY what they they will kick back to Kay for handling the application and to the HCDO for obtaining the apporval of the Freeholder Board. Please note, individual Freeholders may also request applications to be filed. : : Relevate experience with respect to the contract desired in not important. : : : : : What happended to all the HCDO Leaders - Apparently they were not welcomed to John Edwards Bayonne Visit. : : : All I saw was Joe Doria ..... he was just a wall flower ... a VERY LARGE WALL FLOWER........LOL Didn't see Congressman Menendez - kinda strange or is it? : : : By the Way --- Edwards Visit was at the Royal Carribean Port - Royal Carribean is one of Bob Menendez's gal pal Kay Licausi Million Dollar Clients...... : : : Time to Play Connect the Dots......... : : : Remember RULE # 1 ..... It's PAY TO KAY !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JASMANI posted Message 7338 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 00:18:39 Subject: HEALY NOT LEAVING RACE. HEY ARE THEY ALL CRAZY ON THIS BOARD DESPITE THE NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNING AND NEWSPAPER ARTICLES GERRY MCCANN FED THE PRESS COUNCILMAN HEALY IS STILL RUNNING THIS IS FROM JERRY HIMSELF. MANZO SCUMTEAM AND DIRTY TRICKSTERS AND PROVEN CONVICTED FELONS INCLUDING HIS BROTHER RONALD AND MERRY GERRY MCCANN WHO IS A DISGRACE TO HIS FAMILY, CANT GET HEALY OUT THE ONLY WAY IS TO BEAT HIM FAIR AND SQUARE AND THAT CANT HAPPEN AT LEAST NOT LOU MANZO . JERRY GAVE BRETT SCHUNDLER A GREAT FIGHT IN 97" AND LOU MANZO IS NO BRETT SCHUNDLER . SO MAYBE LOU SHOULD DROP OUT AND SAVE HIMSELF FROM BEING HUMILIATED BY HEALY ON NOVEMBER 2ND. HEY WHERE IS RICKY THE BURGULAR. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CAROLINE posted Message 7339 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 00:21:37 Subject: HEALY WINS Jerramiah T Healy will stay in this election and win it bet on it all the talk on the street is jerry healy wins. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy the best. posted Message 7340 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 00:25:33 Subject: MANZO IS HISTORY Jerry Healy will make history by beating lou manzo on lous 5th try for mayor so manzo will be history by losing again to healy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7341 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 00:25:39 Subject: In plain English, the original post implied that Edwards didn't want to be seen with HCDO figures. I only caught the NJN coverage of the event. Most often, NJN shows the visiting dignitary publicly greating local politicians. I don't remember seeing that for this event. Were Hudson County officials involved in Edwards's appearance or were they kept out of sight? In plain English, the original post implied that Edwards didn't want to be seen with HCDO figures. Is this true? If any of the people mentioned below have pictures with the vice-presidential candidate from his Bayonne visit, don't hesitate to e-mail copies to me. I'll be happy to post the images here. : Okay - here we go again... Congressman Menendez was in Washington D.C., voting and doing his job as our representative. If you only so Senator/Mayor Doria, then you either weren't there, or you are misleading everyone. County Executive DeGise, Chief of Staff / Councilman Gaughan, County Clerk Inclan, Councilman Campos (Hoboken) were all there. : : Where was Congessman Bob Menendez when Vice Presidential Candidate Joe Edwards came to Hudson COunty ?????? : : What happended to all the HCDO Leaders - Apparently they were not welcomed to John Edwards Bayonne Visit. : : All I saw was Joe Doria ..... he was just a wall flower ... a VERY LARGE WALL FLOWER........LOL : : By the Way --- Edwards Visit was at the Royal Carribean Port - Royal Carribean is one of Bob Menendez's gal pal Kay Licausi Million Dollar Clients...... : : Time to Play Connect the Dots......... : : Remember RULE # 1 ..... It's PAY TO KAY !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** will healy put his clothes back on? posted Message 7342 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 02:02:36 Subject: Re: MANZO IS HISTORY Will jerry come to his victory party with his clothes on? Will Tommy Degise dress him? : Jerry Healy will make history by beating lou manzo on lous 5th try for mayor so manzo will be history by losing again to healy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** healy? ^^^on top of this page? posted Message 7343 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 02:05:02 Subject: Did you see the article about Do you really think the average voter will vote for healy after that annoucment up on top of this page? Do you think the voters are as stupid as you? : Jerramiah T Healy : will stay in this election and win it bet on it all the talk on the street is jerry healy wins. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7344 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 05:10:54 Subject: Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Keep spinning posted Message 7345 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 06:25:33 Subject: Re: MANZO IS HISTORY :::You dont even know how many times Lou has tried A$$hole. Oh, Jerry is just what Jersey City needs for a mayor. Jersey City really needs a diabetic that is TOO STUPID TO KNOW OR JUST DOESNT CARE that he should be NOWHERE NEAR ALCOHOL! And if the diabetic thing is just a spin to get sympathy and make the Manzo group look like big bad meanies, then Jerry is as big a LIAR as those he surrounds himself with. : Jerry Healy will make history by beating lou manzo on lous 5th try for mayor so manzo will be history by losing again to healy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're getting desparate posted Message 7346 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 06:30:20 Subject: Re: HEALY WINS NOT :::Word on the street? Oh I get it, thats where all the Healy people are laying after a night at the new city hall - the Astor Bar. IF JERRY IS A REAL DIABETIC THEN HE KNOWS HE SHOULDN'T BE TOUCHING A DRINK. SO THIS ONLY MEANS ONE OF TWO THINGS. HE IS TRYING TO COMMIT SUICIDE OR HE IS LYING ABOUT BEING A DIABETIC. Oh this is a great choice to run the city. Belly up boys, beers and insulin for all. : Jerramiah T Healy : will stay in this election and win it bet on it all the talk on the street is jerry healy wins. ***************** End Of Article ****************** AND GUESS WHAT! posted Message 7347 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 06:39:48 Subject: Re: HEALY NOT LEAVING RACE. FIRST OF ALL, WE ALL KNOW WHO THIS IS POSTING. JERRY IS A DRUNK PLAYING WITH HIS LIFE CAUSE HE ALLEGES HE IS DIABETIC. DOESNT EVEN HAVE SENSE ENOUGH TO KNOW WHEN TO QUIT. GETS HIMSELF SO BLOTTO THAT HE STRIPS, GOES OUTSIDE AND GETS HIS PICTURE TAKEN AND DON'T REMEMBER. NOW, AS TO HIS CRONIES, LETS SEE WE HAVE GAUGHAN, A NASTY DRUNK WHO HAS MANIPULATED EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING AND WILL BE REAL MAYOR. JIMMY DICK-SON, GAUGHANS NASTY, STUPID, DRUNK OF A SON IN LAW WHO GOT A JOB THROUGH DADDY IN LAW AND WILL BE BACK TO SLEEPING ON PARK BENCHES WHEN DADDY IN LAW IS GONE. BUDDY DEMLIER, GERRY MCCANNS PROTEGE AND PROBABLY ANOTHER BOOZER CAUSE THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF HANGING WITH THIS GROUP. I WILL TAKE GERRY MCCANN AND RON MANZO OVER THIS GROUP ANY DAY. AT LEAST THEY ARE SOBER, DRESS WELL AND DONT SMELL LIKE THEY ARE ALLERGIC TO SOAP AND WATER AND TRY TO COVER IT UP WITH OLD SPICE. : HEY ARE THEY ALL CRAZY ON THIS BOARD DESPITE THE NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNING AND NEWSPAPER ARTICLES GERRY MCCANN FED THE PRESS : COUNCILMAN HEALY IS STILL RUNNING THIS IS FROM JERRY HIMSELF. : MANZO SCUMTEAM AND DIRTY TRICKSTERS AND PROVEN CONVICTED FELONS INCLUDING HIS BROTHER RONALD AND MERRY GERRY MCCANN WHO IS A DISGRACE TO HIS FAMILY, : CANT GET HEALY OUT THE ONLY WAY IS TO BEAT HIM FAIR AND SQUARE AND THAT CANT HAPPEN AT LEAST NOT LOU MANZO . : JERRY GAVE BRETT SCHUNDLER A GREAT FIGHT IN 97" AND LOU MANZO IS NO BRETT SCHUNDLER . SO MAYBE LOU SHOULD DROP OUT AND SAVE HIMSELF FROM BEING HUMILIATED BY HEALY ON NOVEMBER 2ND. : HEY WHERE IS RICKY THE BURGULAR. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ONE THING HERE posted Message 7348 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 06:42:57 Subject: Re: HEALY CONTINUES. :::IF DIABETIC JERRY CAN ADMIT TO THE TIMES THAT HE GOT THAT DRUNK AND STRIPPED AND DOESN'T REMEMBER, IS HE EVEN AWARE THAT HE IS RUNNING FOR MAYOR? : IF ANYONE THINKS JERRAMIAH HEALY IS QUITTING THIS CAMPAIGN WHILE HE IS WINNING IN ALL THE LATEST POLLS YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN. : EVEN WHEN GERRY MCCANN CONTACTING ALL THE MEDIA ABOUT LIES AND SITUATIONS HE SET UP AGAINST HEALY. THERE WILL BE NO ENDING HEALYS CAMPAIGN. LOU MANZO AND THE CONVICTED FELON MCCANN : AND THE REST OF THE FELONS ARE TRYING THERE BEST TO BEAT JERRY AND WONT SUCCEED. TEARING HEALY SIGNS FROM PRIVATE HOMES : AND PUTTING MANZO SIGNS ON OUR LIGHT POLES WITH GLUE SO THEY CANT BE TAKEN DOWN WHAT A DISGRACE FOR THE APPEARANCE OF OUR GREAT CITY . THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. : MANZO IS CREATING A MESS THE TAXPAYERS WILL HAVE TO PAY TO TAKE THEM DOWN.SO IT IS STILL HEALY ALL THE WAY.!!GO JERRY ***************** End Of Article ****************** GO RIGHT AHEAD posted Message 7349 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 06:46:55 Subject: Re: Nice Banner KENNELLY. KEEP SPINNING. JIMMY DICK-SON SEEN FRANTICALLY RUNNING AROUND TOWN YESTERDAY CUTTING THAT PART OFF BECAUSE IT IS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW. KERRY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE SIGNS BECAUSE THEY ARE AN ENDORSEMENT AND HE DIDNT SUPPORT THIS MESSAGE *HIC*. : Keep that KERRY FOR PRESIDENT banner up for a while Anthony. Looks good. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Can Be Mrs. healy posted Message 7350 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 09:10:31 Subject: Healy a Cross Dresser jerry's frequent encounters in the buff are due to his cross dressing episodes. : Will jerry come to his victory party with his clothes on? Will Tommy Degise dress him? : : : Jerry Healy will make history by beating lou manzo on lous 5th try for mayor so manzo will be history by losing again to healy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sending the Pic to Kerry posted Message 7351 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 09:20:40 Subject: Re: Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! I'am going to send John Kerry's campaign manager a copy of Jerry's picture sunning himself and a copy of the campaign sign. Let's see if Kerry approves. : Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom DeGise posted Message 7352 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 09:24:38 Subject: Healy Picture Doesn't Cut Out the part with The picuture of Healy was cut inhalf. I have reliable sources who are telling me Tom DeGise was also nude and holding hands with jerry. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Voyvoy posted Message 7353 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 09:38:59 Subject: There's a rumour going round that. . . Healy wants to turn Pershing Field into a nudist colony. ***************** End Of Article ****************** let the good time roll! posted Message 7354 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 09:41:20 Subject: Jerry, Jerry, Drunk and merry! ***************** End Of Article ****************** seniors rule! posted Message 7355 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 09:44:04 Subject: Re: Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, and Johnny Walker endorse Healy Don't Forget Old Grand Dad! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Brothers of the Jersey City Heights posted Message 7356 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 10:32:23 Subject: New Healy Campaign Promise He will reopen his mother's Paterson Plank Road afterhours bar. No longer will drunks in the Heights have to worry about going without a drink between the hours of 2 in the morning until 6. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Twisted posted Message 7357 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 10:47:08 Subject: Re: Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! : Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! how can we vote for a person that is drinks all the time is this what he is going to do if he gets into office, think he drinks all time and does crazy things when he is drunk think is this what u want then vote for manzo he is the person that is going to get the job done and how can you trust a jew, when we all know that it is money first then beer and last the people of jersey city. When you look at around everything that he has is from the county and that is who going to to run jc that means everything that we have will be taken from us even the seniors will loss everything. so all i am asking is just think on novemeber 2 when you go to vote ***************** End Of Article ****************** Press watch posted Message 7358 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 10:55:36 Subject: Healy was misquoted! : Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! He didn't say "six to eight beers." He said "sixty-eight beers." ***************** End Of Article ****************** your Exaggerating posted Message 7359 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 11:07:10 Subject: Re: Healy was misquoted! Jerry THINKS he drank 68 beers but he's not sure. It might have been over three days, not three hours. Hey Jerry can drink most people under the table, he just forgot or lost conciousness somewhere along the way. Nothing a few bloddy mary's in the morning wouldn't cure. : : Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! : He didn't say "six to eight beers." He said "sixty-eight beers." ***************** End Of Article ****************** I like that! posted Message 7360 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 11:09:11 Subject: Re: New Healy Campaign Promise Its just another example of Jerry sensitivity to the needs of the citizens of Jersey City. When is Tommy DeGise going to do something like that! For that matter, when is Tommy DeGise going to do anything else but golf with his consultants! Any predictions? : He will reopen his mother's Paterson Plank Road afterhours bar. No longer will drunks in the Heights have to worry about going without a drink between the hours of 2 in the morning until 6. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7361 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 11:25:01 Subject: Everybody has it all wrong! Jerry Healy wasn't drunk. He was protesting against the burden of high County taxes! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sean posted Message 7362 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 11:27:36 Subject: Re: HEALY CONTINUES. Hey Manzo and Mccann supporters come take my Healy sign down tough guys I live at 235 Liberty ave. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jamie posted Message 7363 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 11:36:59 Subject: Re: New Healy Campaign Promise you are an a$$hole ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kool- Aid, and it must be made by Tom DeGise posted Message 7364 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 11:46:33 Subject: Healy Only Drinks : Jerry Healy wasn't drunk. He was protesting against the burden of high County taxes! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Zimmerman posted Message 7365 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 13:14:47 Subject: Healy for President! Bob Dylan sang, "But even the President of the United States sometimes must have to stand naked." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Welcome Wagon posted Message 7366 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 13:15:40 Subject: Stop picking on Healy! He was helping McGreevey move to Jersey City! ***************** End Of Article ****************** He's a Nice Guy posted Message 7367 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 13:23:49 Subject: Re: Stop picking on Healy! When he's sober. And he's made a campaign promise; 'If I,am elected Mayor I swear to stay sober for atleast 8 hours in a row every week. : He was helping McGreevey move to Jersey City! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Trying to Help Out his Constituients posted Message 7368 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 13:26:02 Subject: Now You Don't Like Healy for... aND SOME PEOPLE DON;T HAVE A$$ HOLES, IE., THE PRIOR POST. : : you are an a$$hole ***************** End Of Article ****************** TOM DEGISE WALKS WITH JESUS posted Message 7369 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 13:32:05 Subject: iF IT ISN'T A CRIME THAN CAN WE ADD THE 11TH COMMANDMENT? THOU SHALT NOT TAKE MONEY, GIFTS, WOMEN, TRIPS, DRINKS, FROM VENDORS SEEKING CONTRACTS. COME TO THINK OF IT, WHAT QUALIFIES THESE POLITICAL HACKS TO EVEN EVAUATE PORPOSALS? WHAT QUALIFICATIONS BESIDES WEARING PANTS WITH CARGO POCKETS DO THEY HAVE? : Pay to play isn't a crime -- and that's the problem! : : We'll try this again: I thought this website needed written proof of criminality before any accusations can be posted. It seems to me that the mention of "kickback" is an accusation of criminal activity. What do you say to that, Anthony? : : : All vendors seeking lurative county contracts must first submit application with Kay Licausi. Applicants must demostrate in writing EXACTLY what they they will kick back to Kay for handling the application and to the HCDO for obtaining the apporval of the Freeholder Board. Please note, individual Freeholders may also request applications to be filed. : : : Relevate experience with respect to the contract desired in not important. : : : : : : : What happended to all the HCDO Leaders - Apparently they were not welcomed to John Edwards Bayonne Visit. : : : : All I saw was Joe Doria ..... he was just a wall flower ... a VERY LARGE WALL FLOWER........LOL Didn't see Congressman Menendez - kinda strange or is it? : : : : By the Way --- Edwards Visit was at the Royal Carribean Port - Royal Carribean is one of Bob Menendez's gal pal Kay Licausi Million Dollar Clients...... : : : : Time to Play Connect the Dots......... : : : : Remember RULE # 1 ..... It's PAY TO KAY !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Taprrom Barry posted Message 7370 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 15:48:22 Subject: Re: Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! I take the Drunk over the Homo. At least I know when I go to the bathroom he's not going the sneak in on me and try to take a peak or worse! ***************** End Of Article ****************** look at the picture and see! posted Message 7371 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 15:48:51 Subject: Healy has two A$$holes Trying to keep up drinking with BIll Gaughan Jerry Healy passed out stewed. The police were going to drive him home so they were asking Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan with Healy Lived. Gaughan just kept nipping at a fifth of fleischmann's and singing Oh Danny Boy. Tom Degise said that he didn't know where Healy live because Lois always told the drive where to go. So then the police asked what Healy's home telephone number was so they could call and get the address. Gaughan just kept swigging away at the bottle and now was singing Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra. Degise said that he didn't know what Healy's phone number was because Lois always dialed the phone for him. So the police then asked where Healy's kids lived. They would get in touch with them and find out from them where Healy lived. Gaugan took another drink out of the bottle and then wailed into McNamara'a Band. Degise said that he had no idea how to get in touch with Healy's children because Lois kept track of that for him. At their wit's end, the policeman said listen, you're backing this guy for mayor you got to know something about him. Well Degise says Jerry Healy has two a$$holes. Taking a step back the cop says, listen, you don't know where he lives, you don't know his phone number, you don't know how to get in touch with his kids, but you knows that Healy has two a$$holes! How do you know that? Well Degise says every night when Healy, Gaughan, and I goes to the Tavern up the block, the bar tender yells here comes that guy Jerry with the two a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Teresa B posted Message 7372 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 15:50:06 Subject: Healy Vs Manzo At least with Healy we know he doesn't have anything to hide! Want to come out of the closet yet Lou? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soothsayer posted Message 7373 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 15:54:07 Subject: Losing sight of the real question. Has anyone asked the real question? Who took these pictures of Healy and why? Set up? Framed? Hmmm Sounds like he was McCanned, a real class act. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Guilt By Association posted Message 7374 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 15:54:39 Subject: Edwards Knows HCDO Indictments R Coming. Senator Edwards Avoided the HCDO like the Plague -- BTW Know it ALl Kennelly --- Where Was Democratic Chairman Bernie Kenny ??? : I only caught the NJN coverage of the event. Most often, NJN shows the visiting dignitary publicly greating local politicians. I don't remember seeing that for this event. Were Hudson County officials involved in Edwards's appearance or were they kept out of sight? : In plain English, the original post implied that Edwards didn't want to be seen with HCDO figures. Is this true? : If any of the people mentioned below have pictures with the vice-presidential candidate from his Bayonne visit, don't hesitate to e-mail copies to me. I'll be happy to post the images here. : : Okay - here we go again... Congressman Menendez was in Washington D.C., voting and doing his job as our representative. If you only so Senator/Mayor Doria, then you either weren't there, or you are misleading everyone. County Executive DeGise, Chief of Staff / Councilman Gaughan, County Clerk Inclan, Councilman Campos (Hoboken) were all there. : : : Where was Congessman Bob Menendez when Vice Presidential Candidate Joe Edwards came to Hudson COunty ?????? : : : What happended to all the HCDO Leaders - Apparently they were not welcomed to John Edwards Bayonne Visit. : : : All I saw was Joe Doria ..... he was just a wall flower ... a VERY LARGE WALL FLOWER........LOL : : : By the Way --- Edwards Visit was at the Royal Carribean Port - Royal Carribean is one of Bob Menendez's gal pal Kay Licausi Million Dollar Clients...... : : : Time to Play Connect the Dots......... : : : Remember RULE # 1 ..... It's PAY TO KAY !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Metal detector posted Message 7375 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 15:57:05 Subject: Re: Healy Vs Manzo : At least with Healy we know he doesn't have anything to hide! No concealed weapons, either! : Want to come out of the closet yet Lou? ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 7376 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 16:29:07 Subject: who took pictures :word on the street is felon mcann 1000 to 1 odds this 3 time loser doesn't last in the manzo camp another week ***************** End Of Article ****************** Citizen's Watchgroup posted Message 7377 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 16:54:33 Subject: LIPSKI takes high road Manzo people want to smash Healy. Healy already smashed. What to do? Vote Lipski ***************** End Of Article ****************** dailleztbabyboy posted Message 7378 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 16:56:18 Subject: Re: LIPSKI takes high road with RV Saw Lipski in Columbus parade. Marched with about 10 supporters away from the others. Smith & Healy were there as well. ***************** End Of Article ****************** wow posted Message 7379 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 17:09:45 Subject: Re: manzo signs will be down : manzo signs will be coming down by the undreds. : even the big one with the picture on the blvd & st pauls ave. : a$100. bounty is on that one next to kings house. : so mr king stay awake and guard your house signs. King vs Dickson....battle of the brainless vs the useless. Let's get it on. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 7380 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 17:11:52 Subject: Candidates appear on NJN, On the Record Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 7381 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 17:13:34 Subject: Re: who took pictures :::word on the street is that you want me to take naked pictures of you handicuffed to a coffin. dont worry about that mccann guy. Ill do anything you want and keep the beer cold. Leave the Manzo signs in the car baby : :word on the street is felon mcann 1000 to 1 odds this 3 time loser doesn't last in the manzo camp another week ***************** End Of Article ****************** Shawn posted Message 7382 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 17:15:36 Subject: Re: HEALY CONTINUES. Ill be over. Have the coffee ready. : Hey Manzo and Mccann supporters come take my Healy sign down tough guys I live at 235 Liberty ave. ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 7383 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 17:42:55 Subject: mcmanzo people? : try low life's loser's and MISFIT'S ***************** End Of Article ****************** viva las vegas posted Message 7384 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 17:45:56 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? : : try low life's loser's and MISFIT'S :::::::Hi , Briget and Jimmy. Puncuation, please ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pour Healy another Drink posted Message 7385 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 17:49:49 Subject: Kennelly Fears Willie .......... : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GOOD GOVERMENT posted Message 7386 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 18:13:45 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? let's not forget; felon's ;felon's about to be sentenced;felon's about to be indicted;drug addict's and hoodlum's ***************** End Of Article ****************** New York Times posted Message 7387 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 18:18:39 Subject: Has Healy No Shame ??? Has Healy No Shame ??? After todays New York Times Quote - How Can he face the public ? Drunk as usual - what a disgrace ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** on top of it posted Message 7388 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 18:43:06 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? : let's not forget; felon's ;felon's about to be sentenced;felon's about to be indicted;drug addict's and hoodlum's ::::::::::::Drug addicts, felons, burglars, bench dwellers? It's Jimmy Dickson calling the pot black. ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 7389 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 19:03:19 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? : : let's not forget; felon's ;felon's about to be sentenced;felon's about to be indicted;drug addict's and hoodlum's : ::::::::::::Drug addicts, felons, burglars, bench dwellers? It's Jimmy Dickson calling the pot black. on top? are you the quarterback or the reciever? CHECK THAT YOUR THE TIGHT END WITH THE BIG NOSE AKA;LITTLE DICKson ***************** End Of Article ****************** dyfs posted Message 7390 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 19:23:46 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? : : let's not forget; felon's ;felon's about to be sentenced;felon's about to be indicted;drug addict's and hoodlum's : ::::::::::::Drug addicts, felons, burglars, bench dwellers? It's Jimmy Dickson calling the pot black. jimmy dickson wouldn't call the pot black, he would smoke it ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 7391 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 19:39:43 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? : : : let's not forget; felon's ;felon's about to be sentenced;felon's about to be indicted;drug addict's and hoodlum's : : ::::::::::::Drug addicts, felons, burglars, bench dwellers? It's Jimmy Dickson calling the pot black. : jimmy dickson wouldn't call the pot black, he would smoke it :what is dyfs??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 7392 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 20:10:39 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? ::::Come home baby. I got corn beef and cabbage with a cold case of beer waitin for you. Jack Daniels is here too. Leave the Manzo signs in the hall. : : try low life's loser's and MISFIT'S ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 7393 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 20:15:09 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? :::Honey how many times have I told you not to talk about your family and friends like that. Now come on in and leave the Manzo signs in side the funeral home doors. Daddy says he want s to put them inside the coffins and take pictures for some kind of joke. Pick up Johnny Walker on the way home. I invited him to dinner. : let's not forget; felon's ;felon's about to be sentenced;felon's about to be indicted;drug addict's and hoodlum's ***************** End Of Article ****************** It stands for.... posted Message 7394 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 20:17:41 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? : : : : let's not forget; felon's ;felon's about to be sentenced;felon's about to be indicted;drug addict's and hoodlum's : : : ::::::::::::Drug addicts, felons, burglars, bench dwellers? It's Jimmy Dickson calling the pot black. : : jimmy dickson wouldn't call the pot black, he would smoke it : :what is dyfs??? ::dyfs stands for - Dickson Your F**kin Stupid ***************** End Of Article ****************** It stands for.... posted Message 7395 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 20:20:17 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? : : : : let's not forget; felon's ;felon's about to be sentenced;felon's about to be indicted;drug addict's and hoodlum's : : : ::::::::::::Drug addicts, felons, burglars, bench dwellers? It's Jimmy Dickson calling the pot black. : : jimmy dickson wouldn't call the pot black, he would smoke it : :what is dyfs??? ::dyfs stands for - Dickson Your F**kin Stupid ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 7396 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 20:30:44 Subject: 11/02 /04 I LEAVE YOU WITH THIS ;;; #1 HEALY #2 SMITH #3 TIE FLOOD MCanzo see you on the 3'rd billy dic send me your resume 134 south st j.c. n.j. 07307 REF: LOU MANZO GERALD MCann;;;I can hang sign's but LOUIE didn't win so I GUESS I CAN DRIVE BUS 7 BUCK'S AN HOUR CC;JOESPH CASTAGNA ***************** End Of Article ****************** TOMMY posted Message 7397 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 20:37:30 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? : JIIIIMMMY'S NOT HERE BUT I AM IS THE BEEF AS WARM AS YOUR TOUNGE WAS UP LOU'S A$$ ***************** End Of Article ****************** New York TImes posted Message 7398 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 20:42:25 Subject: Healy Is a Disgrace After reading Healy's comments in the New York Times - It is amazing that Healy has THE NERVE to appear in public - no less run for Mayor. To think this guy sits in judgement of others. Healy is a Disgrace. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 7399 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 20:58:18 Subject: Re: 11/02 /04 : I LEAVE ;;; #1 HEALY DRUNK #2 SMITH RACIST #3 TIE FLOOD (CAUSE IM KINKY) see you on the 3'rd billy. i'll bring my resume to 134 south st j.c. n.j. 07307 REF: Bill Gaughan (my father in law) I can hang sign's and I GUESS I CAN DRIVE BUS CAUSE I AM DRIVING COUNTY VEHICLES ON A SUSPENDED LICENSE CAUSE I AM A DRUNK DOPED UP INDIOT 7 BUCK'S AN HOUR IS FINE CC;CHRIS CHRISTIE ***************** End Of Article ****************** RED DEVIL posted Message 7400 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 21:03:44 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? : : : : : let's not forget; felon's ;felon's about to be sentenced;felon's about to be indicted;drug addict's and hoodlum's , he would s 'it : : :what is dyfs??? : ::dyfs stands for - Dickson Your F**kin Stupid ''THAT'prutty good by the way;; how's your your horny sister saw her last week i gave her ten she seemed happy ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reason not to vote for Manzo posted Message 7401 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 21:09:51 Subject: Re: Losing sight of the real question. This is why we cannot afford to vote for Lou Manzo...he is surrounded by trash like Gerry McCann. A vote for Manzo is a vote for Gerry McCann! I don't know what's worse...having Cunningham's braintrust back in or having Gerry McCann. : Has anyone asked the real question? : Who took these pictures of Healy and why? : Set up? Framed? : Hmmm Sounds like he was McCanned, a real class act. ***************** End Of Article ****************** worried posted Message 7402 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 21:25:11 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? : : : : : : let's not forget; felon's ;felon's about to be sentenced;felon's about to be indicted;drug addict's and hoodlum's : , he would s : 'it : : : :what is dyfs??? : : ::dyfs stands for - Dickson Your F**kin Stupid : ''THAT'prutty good by the way;; how's your your horny sister saw her last week i gave her ten she seemed happy You know what it stands for Briget..They've been to your house. ***************** End Of Article ****************** caroline posted Message 7403 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 22:09:04 Subject: Healy Stays in it and wins Spoke to jerry healy today and he tells me he is not quitting despite the false quote the rag new yoerk times reporter wrote that was all bull he intends to contact and respond to this article locally. in his home town where he is running not in new a new york paper.this reporter should have printed the whole truth where merry gerry mccann and lous henchmen invaded his privacy in his own home at 3 am woke him from a sleep. so jerry is staying the course and will prevail despite this supposed setback GO JERRY WE ARE WITH YOU !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth about Healy Has Doomed His Campaign posted Message 7404 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 22:24:07 Subject: Re: Healy Stays in it and wins : Spoke to jerry healy today and he tells me he is not quitting despite the false quote the rag new yoerk times reporter wrote that was all bull he intends to contact and respond to this article locally. in his home town where he is running not in new a new york paper.this reporter should have printed the whole truth where merry gerry mccann and lous henchmen invaded his privacy in his own home at 3 am woke him from a sleep. : so jerry is staying the course and will prevail despite : this supposed setback GO JERRY WE ARE WITH YOU !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** has sunk to - and hw wants yto be Mayor! posted Message 7405 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 22:25:48 Subject: Just an indication how low politics in JC : After reading Healy's comments in the New York Times - It is amazing that Healy has THE NERVE to appear in public - no less run for Mayor. To think this guy sits in judgement of others. : Healy is a Disgrace. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Michael Aron asked him about Flintkote? posted Message 7406 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 22:29:28 Subject: Re: Did you see Healy's Eye's when they looked like a kino machine in Atlantic ciy. what a sleaz. : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 7407 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 22:45:25 Subject: Re: mcmanzo people? ::::Stop talking like that. You know I dont like it. Come home baby, the beer is cold. Leave the Manzo signs in the car. : : JIIIIMMMY'S NOT HERE BUT I AM IS THE BEEF AS WARM AS YOUR TOUNGE WAS UP LOU'S A$$ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Knock, Knock are you home? posted Message 7408 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 22:53:02 Subject: Re: Losing sight of the real question. :::Jersey Section of the today's NY Times. Healy admits the picture but says he is a diabetic, had a few beer (which is REAL smart for a diabetic) and doesn't remember how anything happened. Now I am sure Gerry has more of a life than to hang around Bradley Beach waiting for something like this to happen. It would seem that someone Jerry knew and ticked off took that picture and passed it around. HA-ha : This is why we cannot afford to vote for Lou Manzo...he is surrounded by trash like Gerry McCann. A vote for Manzo is a vote for Gerry McCann! : I don't know what's worse...having Cunningham's braintrust back in or having Gerry McCann. : : Has anyone asked the real question? : : Who took these pictures of Healy and why? : : Set up? Framed? : : Hmmm Sounds like he was McCanned, a real class act. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who writes your material.... posted Message 7409 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 22:55:40 Subject: Re: Healy Stays in it and wins :::The group from SNL? Pretty good. : Spoke to jerry healy today and he tells me he is not quitting despite the false quote the rag new yoerk times reporter wrote that was all bull he intends to contact and respond to this article locally. in his home town where he is running not in new a new york paper.this reporter should have printed the whole truth where merry gerry mccann and lous henchmen invaded his privacy in his own home at 3 am woke him from a sleep. : so jerry is staying the course and will prevail despite : this supposed setback GO JERRY WE ARE WITH YOU !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY WINS!!! posted Message 7410 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 22:59:33 Subject: Re: GO JERRY! :GIVE IT UP!!! HEALY WAS MISQUOTED!!HEALY IS IN IT TO WIN IT!! AND MARK MY WORDS!! HE WILL! GO JERRY WE ARE WITH YOU ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HEALY FOR MAYOR NOVEMBER 2ND! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The two are pretty pathetic posted Message 7411 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 23:04:44 Subject: Well Done! The HCDO has really sunk to the low of the low. : Trying to keep up drinking with BIll Gaughan Jerry Healy passed out stewed. The police were going to drive him home so they were asking Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan with Healy Lived. : Gaughan just kept nipping at a fifth of fleischmann's and singing Oh Danny Boy. Tom Degise said that he didn't know where Healy live because Lois always told the drive where to go. So then the police asked what Healy's home telephone number was so they could call and get the address. Gaughan just kept swigging away at the bottle and now was singing Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra. Degise said that he didn't know what Healy's phone number was because Lois always dialed the phone for him. So the police then asked where Healy's kids lived. They would get in touch with them and find out from them where Healy lived. Gaugan took another drink out of the bottle and then wailed into McNamara'a Band. Degise said that he had no idea how to get in touch with Healy's children because Lois kept track of that for him. At their wit's end, the policeman said listen, you're backing this guy for mayor you got to know something about him. Well Degise says Jerry Healy has two a$$holes. Taking a step back the cop says, listen, you don't know where he lives, you don't know his phone number, you don't know how to get in touch with his kids, but you knows that Healy has two a$$holes! How do you know that? Well Degise says every night when Healy, Gaughan, and I goes to the Tavern up the block, the bar tender yells here comes that guy Jerry with the two a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Give me a Break! posted Message 7412 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 23:09:26 Subject: Healy says Tom DeGise is a Breathe of Fresh Air Healy said he likes tom degise because he 'cleaned house' after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski. Well Jerry in case you haven't noticed, ALL of Janizewski's high-paid consultants are still on the county's payroll, and have received fat increases and extended contracts from Tom Degise! What did Degise clean house with? : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** It doesn't matter posted Message 7413 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 23:14:21 Subject: Re: who took pictures The pictures are for real. And it appears Jerry is enjoying himself on his front stoop totally naked! Didn't see McCann or anybody else holding a gun to Jerry's head. Repeat, the pictures are legit. :::word on the street is that you want me to take naked pictures of you handicuffed to a coffin. dont worry about that mccann guy. Ill do anything you want and keep the beer cold. Leave the Manzo signs in the car baby : : :word on the street is felon mcann 1000 to 1 odds this 3 time loser doesn't last in the manzo camp another week ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good for you! posted Message 7414 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 23:17:16 Subject: Re: Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! it shows the trailer trash that support Healy. : I take the Drunk over the Homo. : At least I know when I go to the bathroom he's not going the sneak in on me and try to take a peak or worse! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Must have been upwind of his breath posted Message 7415 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 23:37:25 Subject: Re: Healy says Tom DeGise is a Breathe of Fresh Air : Healy said he likes tom degise because he 'cleaned house' after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski. Well Jerry in case you haven't noticed, ALL of Janizewski's high-paid consultants are still on the county's payroll, and have received fat increases and extended contracts from Tom Degise! What did Degise clean house with? : : : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bytmccall posted Message 7416 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 10, 2004 at 23:43:40 Subject: On L. Harvey Smith On L. Harvey Smith A few weeks ago, I was very close to endorsing L. Harvey Smith for Mayor of Jersey City. I had a post more or less written in my head: The Case for Harvey Smith, or In Defense of Harvey Smith, something like that. I was going to say that in a field with no real powerhouse candidate -- and a general election coming up in May -- it would be wrong to turn over the reins of municipal government to an unknown quantity so soon after Smith had taken office. I felt we should give the Acting Mayor some time to make good on both his promises, and on the lofty and strenuous words he spoke at City Council meetings and on the steps of City Hall on behalf of our public culture. Harvey Smith had been dealt a bad hand. He had to succeed a popular mayor -- one who represented the political aspirations of the City's most-maligned ward -- over the strident objections of Cunningham supporters. The rush to put a halo over the head of the late Mayor Cunningham has made Smith look like an interloper or usurper by contrast: an accidental mayor, a temporary and hastily-improvised patch over a bleeding wound. Smith has been called a stooge of the HCDO, a nepotist, an Uncle Tom. Throughout, he's had the shadow of defeat in the November elections looming over everything he's done, undercutting his authority. If he has seemed perpetually embattled, bruised, diminished by infighting, that's no accident: with no public mandate, he hasn't been able to act the part of the political strongman. But Smith has had advantages that the other candidates haven't had. We can appraise their supporters and imagine hypotheticals, but we don't really know what a Mayor Manzo or Mayor Flood would be like. On the other hand, we have had a good three months to examine Mayor Smith in action. That might not be enough time to get a full EKG reading on his leadership, but it's more than just a municipal heartbeat. It's fair to judge Smith on his record, especially since he's the only candidate who has one. For better and for worse, he is the incumbent, and the November elections are a referendum on Mr. Smith's Jersey City, and Mr. Smith's leadership. With incumbency come benefits. For the past three months, Harvey Smith has gotten to put his name and his face on every event, opening, and happening held in Jersey City. If there was a dog show, it became the L. Harvey Smith dog show, if there was a karaoke contest, he came down to it and blessed it with his name and the authority of his position. That's his prerogative as chief executive, and if you thought (as many residents did) that it demeaned the office of the mayor to have L. Harvey Smith's banner and seal plastered behind renditions of "I Will Survive", remember that he had mere weeks to introduce himself to the people of Jersey City before he went to the general public to ask for a removal of the word "Acting" from his job description. An incumbent facing an election is only as powerful as his poll numbers and name recognition show him to be. Nobody is going to listen to a sitting mayor if they've got a pretty good inkling that he's about to be shown the door by the electorate. So if there's been a certain desperation to Smith as he's chased events around town, pledging his commitment wherever he can, it is perhaps understandable. Without a wide base of support, and a sense of gathering momentum, the Smith administration would have been stillborn: something to ride out until November. In order to make the most of his three months, L. Harvey Smith had to behave like a man with a good chance to get his hands on, at the very least, another six. But for those of us on the other end of his pledges -- supporters of 111 First Street, for instance, or the Friends of the Loew's -- Smith's electioneering often raised expectations to unrealistic levels. When Mayor Smith ran to the Old Gold Smokestack and assured the tenants at the Arts Center that there was no way he'd allow Lloyd Goldman to take the structure down, he was clearly blowing smoke. I don't mean to suggest that there has been anything disingenuous about the Acting Mayor's support of the Arts District; Smith's heart may have well been in the right place that day. But he allowed himself to be overzealous, excitable, crowd-pleasing -- and that excitability led him to make a pledge that he had no business making. It also made him look ineffectual. For years, the Cunningham administration proceeded cautiously on the Warehouse District issue, taking pains neither to inflame the landlord nor to satisfy the many demands of the creative community there. Many of us involved in the arts in Hudson County wanted Mr. Cunningham to move faster and to take a firmer stand against Lloyd Goldman. But Cunningham wasn't gung-ho about landmarking, and in retrospect, I have to believe his strategy was wiser than that Mr. Smith's, who strapped on the gloves in plain sight and attempted to punch above his weight. Smith made many of us happy when he declared war on New Gold -- he got our Irish up, he appealed to our belligerence, he got us marching and banging drums. Then he got knocked flat on his ass, and suddenly it wasn't so much fun anymore. 110 came down, artists were pushed out of 111 First Street, BLDG was allowed to vandalize the halls of the Arts Center and to treat its tenants cruelly. And when Mr. Goldman hired himself a little private army to harass visitors and attempt to ruin the Studio Tour, a cowed Harvey Smith -- who had pledged himself a relentless supporter of our community -- was nowhere to be found. Mayor Smith got the landmarking he wanted this week. It remains to be seen whether that translates into better conditions for artists or a developed warehouse district consisting of something other than untouchable and uninhabited old buildings. Nonetheless, this was a much-needed win for Smith. But it was a win he should have had a month ago -- at a City Council meeting in early September when he foolishly tabled the landmarking in an eleventh-hour effort to compromise with Lloyd Goldman. That night, Smith allowed himself to be hoodwinked by Goldman's team. To use a metaphor that Smith, an old basketball star, should understand, Mr. Cavanaugh and New Gold were attempting to stall by dribbling out the clock. That couldn't have been too difficult to deduce: hundreds of people in a packed City Council chamber knew exactly what was going on. Our mayor did not. He got maneuvered into a bad-faith negotiation, and one that wasted an entire month. In the gloom following the decision to table the landmarking, many supporters of the Powerhouse surmised that Smith was on the take -- that he'd been paid off by Goldman to kill the district. But subsequent events proved that the Acting Mayor was not on the take -- he went into his dinner meeting with Lloyd Goldman actually expecting to reach a reasoned compromise. He wasn't corrupted, he was unprepared. If Smith had spent the time educating himself about Mr. Goldman's prior acts, there's no way he would have taken Mr. Cavanaugh's bait. He would have been able to avoid this pitfall, and he would have looked like a hero in the process. But because he was unprepared, he was played like a chump. A corrupt politician is often shrewd enough to work angles for the benefit of his city. A politician who is behind the curve -- one relying on yesterday's news -- is no good to anybody. As Acting Mayor, Mr. Smith has combined unpreparedness with a scary willingness to shut down discourse. At two City Council meetings, he's taken items off the agenda, and refused to hear already-scheduled public speakers. His attempts to explain his own stances are often gruff, impatient, and incoherent. Nobody is really sure why he has decided to reverse his previously-held position on the lease of the Loew's Theatre. The Friends of the Loew's -- another group to whom Smith has pledged support many times -- deserves an explanation and apology. It is very possible that Smith's plan for the Loew's is one that will make everybody in town happy. It's also possible that he's going to hand the theatre over to a campaign contributor. We cannot know, because the Acting Mayor isn't telling. He needs to clarify his positions, and understand that a major policy reversal requires an accompanying detailed explanation. Unfortunately, Harvey Smith's public utterances are reliably uninspiring. His speeches are loaded with management-speak and vague, euphemistic language -- he is constantly "moving forward" and using the catch-all "situation" to stand in for any controversy -- and in public meetings he has shown himself short-tempered and intolerant of disagreement. Mr. Smith is a poor communicator. Behind the microphone, he often seems uncomfortable, irritable, expeditious to a fault. After watching him in public settings for three months, I now believe Mr. Smith is one of those people who has become accustomed to using body language in lieu of actual discourse. He is a very large man, and he has sometimes used his imposing physical stature to intimidate people who challenge him. That is a good strategy on the basketball court, but it isn't one you ever want to see in City Hall. It's not the face of Jersey City that I want to show to the rest of the nation. It is tempting to think that if given the authority that comes from a popular mandate, L. Harvey Smith would be able to stand behind his public utterances and make good on the many pledges he has made during this campaign. Tempting, yes, but also foolish. A popular mandate is not going to make Smith better prepared, or quicker on his feet, or more willing to entertain dissent gracefully. It's not going to prevent him from falling into the sort of snares that Lloyd Goldman set for him on September 8, or for picking battles that he's not willing to see through to their conclusions. It won't make him a better or clearer speaker, or a calmer hand on the tiller. After three months of rudderless governance, I've seen enough. L. Harvey Smith is over his head as mayor of Jersey City, and should not be elected on November 2. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC Watchdof posted Message 7417 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 00:34:20 Subject: Re: In plain English, the original post implied that Edwards didn't want to be seen with HCDO figures. From what I'm told, there was a greet and meet after the event in one of the tents. Greeting Sen. Edwards were Senator / Mayor Doria, Elnora Watson from the Urban League, County Executive DeGise, Senator John Adler, and County Clerk Inclan. If I get pictures, I will gladly send them to you. : I only caught the NJN coverage of the event. Most often, NJN shows the visiting dignitary publicly greating local politicians. I don't remember seeing that for this event. Were Hudson County officials involved in Edwards's appearance or were they kept out of sight? : In plain English, the original post implied that Edwards didn't want to be seen with HCDO figures. Is this true? : If any of the people mentioned below have pictures with the vice-presidential candidate from his Bayonne visit, don't hesitate to e-mail copies to me. I'll be happy to post the images here. : : Okay - here we go again... Congressman Menendez was in Washington D.C., voting and doing his job as our representative. If you only so Senator/Mayor Doria, then you either weren't there, or you are misleading everyone. County Executive DeGise, Chief of Staff / Councilman Gaughan, County Clerk Inclan, Councilman Campos (Hoboken) were all there. : : : Where was Congessman Bob Menendez when Vice Presidential Candidate Joe Edwards came to Hudson COunty ?????? : : : What happended to all the HCDO Leaders - Apparently they were not welcomed to John Edwards Bayonne Visit. : : : All I saw was Joe Doria ..... he was just a wall flower ... a VERY LARGE WALL FLOWER........LOL : : : By the Way --- Edwards Visit was at the Royal Carribean Port - Royal Carribean is one of Bob Menendez's gal pal Kay Licausi Million Dollar Clients...... : : : Time to Play Connect the Dots......... : : : Remember RULE # 1 ..... It's PAY TO KAY !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC Watchdog posted Message 7418 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 00:40:21 Subject: Re: Healy says Tom DeGise is a Breathe of Fresh Air In case NOBODY has noticed, the consultants these ridiculous posts mention are never named. Why? Because they don't exist!!! I like entertaining posts as much as the next person, but there has to be some credibility every once in a while, but there usually isn't. I can assure you that you will be hearing from me quite often, but you will never have to accuse me of not being credible or not listing facts and figures. : Healy said he likes tom degise because he 'cleaned house' after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski. Well Jerry in case you haven't noticed, ALL of Janizewski's high-paid consultants are still on the county's payroll, and have received fat increases and extended contracts from Tom Degise! What did Degise clean house with? : : : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7419 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 07:30:08 Subject: New York Times: The Naked and the Dead The Naked and the Dead Jersey City Mayor's Race, Where Hitting Below the Belt Is a Soft Touch The New York Times The New Jersey Section October 10, 2004 By JONATHAN MILLER JERSEY CITY THERE are photographs of one candidate naked and slumped over on his front porch. Another candidate was removed from the ballot because he does not live here. There is a whisper campaign about yet another one's personal life. There are rumors of surveillance and charges of drunkenness and break-ins and race-baiting and the invocation of a dead mayor for political gain. And according to a chat board on the Web, every candidate is gay. In short, it is business as usual. Such is the hyperventilated state of New Jersey's second-largest city as it gears up for a special election on Nov. 2 in which 11 candidates will be vying for mayor. And in Jersey City, where hitting below the belt is considered a soft touch, skullduggery abounds. All this comes just five months after the death of Glenn D. Cunningham, the city's first black mayor. Though a popular figure credited with attempts at rejuvenating some of the most downtrodden parts of the city, his time in office was marked by a bitter feud with the county's Democratic organization and the powerful congressman from the district, Robert Menendez. Many here even wanted Many here even wanted the dead mayor's politically savvy wife, Sandra A. Bolden Cunningham, to take up his mantle. But when she decided not to run in August, it left the field wide open. "I think it has the potential to get more ugly," said Joseph Lauro, a former campaign adviser to Mr. Cunningham. "And when you have such a crowded field, it's hard for someone to sell themselves in a positive light. It's like having that loaded gun next to your bed and you keep thinking of reaching for it. In Jersey City, there's been a long history of people not voting for someone but voting against someone." Someone will have to win, but that bloodied victor will only be able savor the victory briefly since in May another election will be held for a full four-year term. Of the 11 candidates, only a handful have a legitimate shot, according to conventional wisdom here. Many expect a tight three-way race among Louis M. Manzo, a state assemblyman and former Cunningham supporter; L. Harvey Smith, the acting mayor and council president; and Jerramiah T. Healy, a councilman and a former municipal court chief judge, who has the support of the city's Democratic organization but not Mr. Menendez, who controls the county organization. Last week, Mr. Healy, a diabetic, said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. "I wish I recall how I got back out there," he said. "But I don't." Many of the candidates are trying to take up the mantle of Mr. Cunningham, including Willie L. Flood, a former councilwoman and chairwoman of Mrs Cunningham's nascent political faction. Her campaign literature proclaims "Keep the legacy alive!" and her campaign headquarters on Jersey Avenue has all the trappings of a Cunningham death cult. Taped to the windows are heart-shaped pictures of the former mayor. "I ran because I didn't see anyone step up to the plate," Ms. Flood explained in a recent interview. In a debate held two weeks ago, every candidate invoked the dead mayor's name (some more often than others) in the hopes of scoring political points. It shocked some that Ms. Flood, a close aide to the former mayor, did not get Mrs. Cunningham's endorsement - at least not right away. That prize went instead to a man who is no longer on the ballot - Ronald D. Buonocore, the city's police chief. But two weeks ago Mr. Buonocore, who has a home in Hardyston, was declared ineligible by a state superior court judge for failing to meet the one-year residency requirement. When Mrs. Cunningham finally realized last week that her preferred candidate was out of the running, she endorsed Ms. Flood. Residents can be forgiven for experiencing deja vu. In 1992, Mayor Gerald McCann was forced to resign after his conviction on federal fraud charges. A 19-candidate field resulted in the surprise election of Bret D. Schundler, a Republican who went on to setve two terms and was later his party's gubernatorial nominee. Much has changed since then, and today this is a city of stark contrasts. In the past 1 years, the Hudson waterfront has gone fror a gritty tangle of abandoned rail yards an decaying warehouses to a high-end busines district, a haven for luxury condominium and a quickly gentrifying downtown. Yet the majority of the city is solidly working class, with large numbers of immigrants among the 240,000 residents - two thirds of whom are members of minority groups. In many quarters, it is desperate!; poor, with large numbers of black, Hispanic South Asian and Filipino residents. The pov erty rate is 18.6 percent. The practical result of this demographic change has been a grand shift in traditional voting patterns, and the death of historic boss-style machine politics that once gripped this riverfront city. "You've had an influx of new people, and Middle Eastern, Latino," Mr. Lauro said. "It's hard to have large blocs of voters and control them as in the past. And that's why you have more candidates, because there are more people who think they have a shot." The town that gave the world Mayor Frank "I am the Law" Hague has changed. "There is no machine," Mr. Lauro said. "It's a free-for-all." Not surprisingly, many candidates are running on anti-corruption platforms. "Fighting Corruption" (Healy) and "Reform Government Now (Steve Lipski)," are just two examples. Mayor Smith, a former schoolteacher, put it this way: "I'm poor. I'm 55 years old. I'm too old to go to jail. I still bounce a check every now and then. I don't take cash. I don't let people give me things." Under a fading sun, Mr. Smith made the rounds through the Greenville section of the city last week, clasping hands and talking about jobs, more police and housing, while men sat on porches drinking beer and children played ball in a driveway. He approached a young woman and some children on Wade Street. "We're putting in plans and programs for affordable housing," he said. With that, 7-year-old Anjalyn Mitchell said, "My mother says she needs Section 8." Taken aback, Mr. Smith leaned down and said, "Tell your mom that's a federal program and she needs to apply." He turned to leave, but then thought of a better answer. "Tell your mom she needs to call me," he said. Nearly all the. candidates believe that fighting crime is the most urgent issue facing the city. Despite an overall drop in crime through the 1990's that continues to this day (from 1997 to 2002, the crime index dropped 22 percent, according to state police reports, though violent crime rose slightly from 2001 to 2002), candidates charge that gangs, guns and drugs are still prevalent in large parts of the city. And like many New Jersey cities, Jersey City has struggled with its budget and property taxes. In September, the city adopted a controversial refinancing plan of its debt that lowers its payments now, but over time will cost the city an additional $18 million. Mr. Smith has promised that if elected he will not raise taxes. Since this is a presidential election year, campaign organizers are expecting a large turnout. And one of the great, untapped blocs that will probably turn out in droves are the newcomers to the waterfront. Still, many here question just how many professionals living in expensive high-rise apartments and condominiums will realize that Michael Bloomberg is not their mayor. In Newport, the sprawling business and residential complex, campaign organizers are not permitted in the buildings, and residents there have New York-based cable. Steve Miller, the city's chief of administrative services who is working for Mr. Manzo's campaign, said that past experience is not promising: "Four years ago, we're telling people, 'Are you voting for mayor?'" Their response? 'Oh yeah, we're voting for Giuliani.'" Among the expected also-rans are a waiter of Egyptian descent; a seafood counter worker at an A & P who claims Ronald Reagan came to his home several years ago to encourage him to run for office; a lawyer; a high school teacher; a food service manager at the Meadowlands; and finally, a candidate who, when approached in the hallway outside his apartment about his campaign, explained, "I'm still waiting on God before I say anything." Silent but with a faith that is unwavering, his official campaign slogan remains, "Yes Lord!" ***************** End Of Article ****************** dog watcher posted Message 7420 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 09:48:44 Subject: Re: Healy says Tom DeGise is a Breathe of Fresh Air : In case NOBODY has noticed, the consultants these ridiculous posts mention are never named. Why? Because they don't exist!!! I like entertaining posts as much as the next person, but there has to be some credibility every once in a while, but there usually isn't. I can assure you that you will be hearing from me quite often, but you will never have to accuse me of not being credible or not listing facts and figures. ::Let's hear from you on the subject of Gaughan/Dicksons holding 6 jobs among 4 of them and 1 of them living in low income housing. This is credible. Let's hear contrary facts and figures. This issue can't stand daylight. : : Healy said he likes tom degise because he 'cleaned house' after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski. Well Jerry in case you haven't noticed, ALL of Janizewski's high-paid consultants are still on the county's payroll, and have received fat increases and extended contracts from Tom Degise! What did Degise clean house with? : : : : : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : : : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : : : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** And the bottom line speaks volumns posted Message 7421 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 10:40:37 Subject: Re: On L. Harvey Smith "After three months of rudderless governance, I've seen enough. L. Harvey Smith is over his head as mayor of Jersey City, and should not be elected on November 2. " ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Dead - His Campaign posted Message 7422 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 10:41:13 Subject: The Naked - Jerry Healy Jerry its over when its over, ITS OVER! Besides, its getting cold outside. : The Naked and the Dead : Jersey City Mayor's Race, Where Hitting Below the Belt Is a Soft Touch : The New York Times : The New Jersey Section : October 10, 2004 : By JONATHAN MILLER : JERSEY CITY : THERE are photographs of one candidate naked and slumped over on his front porch. Another candidate was removed from the ballot because he does not live here. There is a whisper campaign about yet another one's personal life. There are rumors of surveillance and charges of drunkenness and break-ins and race-baiting and the invocation of a dead mayor for political gain. And according to a chat board on the Web, every candidate is gay. : In short, it is business as usual. : Such is the hyperventilated state of New Jersey's second-largest city as it gears up : for a special election on Nov. 2 in which 11 candidates will be vying for mayor. And in Jersey City, where hitting below the belt is considered a soft touch, skullduggery abounds. : All this comes just five months after the death of Glenn D. Cunningham, the city's first black mayor. Though a popular figure credited with attempts at rejuvenating some of the most downtrodden parts of the city, his time in office was marked by a bitter feud with the county's Democratic organization and the powerful congressman from the district, Robert Menendez. : Many here even wanted Many here even wanted the dead mayor's politically savvy wife, Sandra A. Bolden Cunningham, to take up his mantle. But when she decided not to run in August, it left the field wide open. : "I think it has the potential to get more ugly," said Joseph Lauro, a former campaign adviser to Mr. Cunningham. "And when you have such a crowded field, it's hard for someone to sell themselves in a positive light. It's like having that loaded gun next to your bed and you keep thinking of reaching for it. In Jersey City, there's been a long history of people not voting for someone but voting against someone." : Someone will have to win, but that bloodied victor will only be able savor the victory : briefly since in May another election will be held for a full four-year term. : Of the 11 candidates, only a handful have a legitimate shot, according to conventional wisdom here. Many expect a tight three-way race among Louis M. Manzo, a state assemblyman and former Cunningham supporter; L. Harvey Smith, the acting mayor and council president; and Jerramiah T. Healy, a councilman and a former municipal court chief judge, who has the support of the city's Democratic organization but not Mr. Menendez, who controls the county organization. : Last week, Mr. Healy, a diabetic, said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. "I wish I recall how I got back out there," he said. "But I don't." : Many of the candidates are trying to take up the mantle of Mr. Cunningham, including Willie L. Flood, a former councilwoman and chairwoman of Mrs Cunningham's nascent political faction. Her campaign literature proclaims "Keep the legacy alive!" and her campaign headquarters on Jersey Avenue has all the trappings of a Cunningham death cult. Taped to the windows are heart-shaped pictures of the former mayor. : "I ran because I didn't see anyone step up to the plate," Ms. Flood explained in a recent interview. : In a debate held two weeks ago, every candidate invoked the dead mayor's name (some more often than others) in the hopes of scoring political points. : It shocked some that Ms. Flood, a close aide to the former mayor, did not get Mrs. Cunningham's endorsement - at least not right away. That prize went instead to a man who is no longer on the ballot - Ronald D. Buonocore, the city's police chief. But two weeks ago Mr. Buonocore, who has a home in Hardyston, was declared ineligible by a state superior court judge for failing to meet the one-year residency requirement. When Mrs. Cunningham finally realized last week that her preferred candidate was out of the running, she endorsed Ms. Flood. : Residents can be forgiven for experiencing deja vu. In 1992, Mayor Gerald McCann was forced to resign after his conviction on federal fraud charges. A 19-candidate field resulted in the surprise election of Bret D. Schundler, a Republican who went on to setve two terms and was later his party's gubernatorial nominee. : Much has changed since then, and today this is a city of stark contrasts. In the past 1 years, the Hudson waterfront has gone fror a gritty tangle of abandoned rail yards an decaying warehouses to a high-end busines district, a haven for luxury condominium and a quickly gentrifying downtown. : Yet the majority of the city is solidly working class, with large numbers of immigrants among the 240,000 residents - two thirds of whom are members of minority groups. In many quarters, it is desperate!; poor, with large numbers of black, Hispanic South Asian and Filipino residents. The pov erty rate is 18.6 percent. : The practical result of this demographic change has been a grand shift in traditional voting patterns, and the death of historic boss-style machine politics that once : gripped this riverfront city. : "You've had an influx of new people, and Middle Eastern, Latino," Mr. Lauro said. "It's hard to have large blocs of voters and control them as in the past. And that's why you have more candidates, because there are more people who think they have a shot." : The town that gave the world Mayor Frank "I am the Law" Hague has changed. "There is no machine," Mr. Lauro said. "It's a free-for-all." : Not surprisingly, many candidates are running on anti-corruption platforms. "Fighting Corruption" (Healy) and "Reform Government Now (Steve Lipski)," are just two examples. : Mayor Smith, a former schoolteacher, put it this way: "I'm poor. I'm 55 years old. I'm too old to go to jail. I still bounce a check every now and then. I don't take cash. I don't let people give me things." : Under a fading sun, Mr. Smith made the rounds through the Greenville section of the city last week, clasping hands and talking about jobs, more police and housing, while men sat on porches drinking beer and children played ball in a driveway. He approached a young woman and some children on Wade Street. : "We're putting in plans and programs for affordable housing," he said. : With that, 7-year-old Anjalyn Mitchell said, "My mother says she needs Section 8." : Taken aback, Mr. Smith leaned down and said, "Tell your mom that's a federal program and she needs to apply." : He turned to leave, but then thought of a better answer. : "Tell your mom she needs to call me," he said. : Nearly all the. candidates believe that fighting crime is the most urgent issue facing the city. Despite an overall drop in crime through the 1990's that continues to this day (from 1997 to 2002, the crime index dropped 22 percent, according to state police reports, though violent crime rose slightly from 2001 to 2002), candidates charge that gangs, guns and drugs are still prevalent in large parts of the city. : And like many New Jersey cities, Jersey City has struggled with its budget and property taxes. In September, the city adopted a controversial refinancing plan of its debt that lowers its payments now, but over time will cost the city an additional $18 million. Mr. Smith has promised that if elected he will not raise taxes. : Since this is a presidential election year, campaign organizers are expecting a large turnout. And one of the great, untapped blocs that will probably turn out in droves are the newcomers to the waterfront. Still, many here question just how many professionals living in expensive high-rise apartments and condominiums will realize that Michael Bloomberg is not their mayor. : In Newport, the sprawling business and residential complex, campaign organizers are not permitted in the buildings, and residents there have New York-based cable. : Steve Miller, the city's chief of administrative services who is working for Mr. Manzo's campaign, said that past experience is not promising: "Four years ago, we're telling people, 'Are you voting for mayor?'" Their response? 'Oh yeah, we're voting for Giuliani.'" : Among the expected also-rans are a waiter of Egyptian descent; a seafood counter worker at an A & P who claims Ronald Reagan came to his home several years ago to encourage him to run for office; a lawyer; a high school teacher; a food service manager at the Meadowlands; and finally, a candidate who, when approached in the hallway outside his apartment about his campaign, explained, "I'm still waiting on God before I say anything." : Silent but with a faith that is unwavering, his official campaign slogan remains, "Yes Lord!" ***************** End Of Article ****************** His Clothes - he Promises posted Message 7423 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 10:49:06 Subject: Re: Healy Stays in I spoke with Jerry Healy this morning and he tells me that he will never venture out of his house again without his clothes on. If the people would just understand that he has an out-of-control drinking problem that all of the handlers he will add to the city's payroll will ensure that the public will be safe from future displays of his manliness. : : Spoke to jerry healy today and he tells me he is not quitting despite the false quote the rag new yoerk times reporter wrote that was all bull he intends to contact and respond to this article locally. in his home town where he is running not in new a new york paper.this reporter should have printed the whole truth where merry gerry mccann and lous henchmen invaded his privacy in his own home at 3 am woke him from a sleep. : : so jerry is staying the course and will prevail despite : : this supposed setback GO JERRY WE ARE WITH YOU !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Does this guy still have contracts? posted Message 7424 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 10:55:06 Subject: Who was Janiszewski's Business Administrator Lets start with this guy and then we can work our way down the list in desending order by dollar value of contracts received from Janiszewski and renewed with DeGise. : In case NOBODY has noticed, the consultants these ridiculous posts mention are never named. Why? Because they don't exist!!! I like entertaining posts as much as the next person, but there has to be some credibility every once in a while, but there usually isn't. I can assure you that you will be hearing from me quite often, but you will never have to accuse me of not being credible or not listing facts and figures. : : Healy said he likes tom degise because he 'cleaned house' after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski. Well Jerry in case you haven't noticed, ALL of Janizewski's high-paid consultants are still on the county's payroll, and have received fat increases and extended contracts from Tom Degise! What did Degise clean house with? : : : : : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : : : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : : : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC Watchdog posted Message 7425 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 11:17:21 Subject: Re: Healy says Tom DeGise is a Breathe of Fresh Air There it is again. Stating alleged facts but not listing them. If they have these jobs, what are they and who has them? If afamily member lives in low-income housing, where does he/she live and what is his/her income? : : In case NOBODY has noticed, the consultants these ridiculous posts mention are never named. Why? Because they don't exist!!! I like entertaining posts as much as the next person, but there has to be some credibility every once in a while, but there usually isn't. I can assure you that you will be hearing from me quite often, but you will never have to accuse me of not being credible or not listing facts and figures. : ::Let's hear from you on the subject of Gaughan/Dicksons holding 6 jobs among 4 of them and 1 of them living in low income housing. This is credible. Let's hear contrary facts and figures. This issue can't stand daylight. : : : : Healy said he likes tom degise because he 'cleaned house' after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski. Well Jerry in case you haven't noticed, ALL of Janizewski's high-paid consultants are still on the county's payroll, and have received fat increases and extended contracts from Tom Degise! What did Degise clean house with? : : : : : : : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : : : : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : : : : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Guy with the Funny Moustache posted Message 7426 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 12:10:52 Subject: Re: Who was Janiszewski's Business Administrator Yeah! that guys got a few! : Lets start with this guy and then we can work our way down the list in desending order by dollar value of contracts received from Janiszewski and renewed with DeGise. : : : In case NOBODY has noticed, the consultants these ridiculous posts mention are never named. Why? Because they don't exist!!! I like entertaining posts as much as the next person, but there has to be some credibility every once in a while, but there usually isn't. I can assure you that you will be hearing from me quite often, but you will never have to accuse me of not being credible or not listing facts and figures. : : : Healy said he likes tom degise because he 'cleaned house' after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski. Well Jerry in case you haven't noticed, ALL of Janizewski's high-paid consultants are still on the county's payroll, and have received fat increases and extended contracts from Tom Degise! What did Degise clean house with? : : : : : : : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : : : : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : : : : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BREAKING NEWS posted Message 7427 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 12:39:58 Subject: HEALY WITHDRAWS FROM ELECTION - ENTERS SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM JERRY HEALY TO ENTER A SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM. HE WILL BE AWAY FOR AT LEAST 6 WEEKS. JERRY HEALY FINALLY HAD A WAKE UP CALL AFTER READING THE ARTICLE IN THE NY TIMES. HE NOW KNOWS HE HAS EMBARRASED HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY WITH HIS ADDICTION PROBLEMS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Porky Pig posted Message 7428 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 12:40:40 Subject: Menendez now wants Lou Manzofor Mayor He said"We can do business,lou". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Diogenes posted Message 7429 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 13:04:12 Subject: Reality Check The streets of Jersey City are dirty and crime-ridden. Potholes are everywhere. We don't have enough Police and Firemen. There is no money to pay for necessary equipment and buildings for Police and Fire. And what do we talk about ? The Loews and 111 First Street !!!! I don't know what is worse. The addle-brained artist community and urban gentry or the pathetic group of candidates we have running for Mayor. Do we really believe that any of the bozos running for Mayor could actually do a good job ? I certainly don't. There is a line in the movie, The American President, about selecting a serious person for a serious job. That doesn't seem to be happening in Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7430 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 14:08:33 Subject: NJN Video: On the Record: Michael Aron Reviews Some of the Candidates To view the NJN video Online, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JHR posted Message 7431 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 15:05:56 Subject: Re: Reality Check I agree there are much more serious problems in JC. My opinion after reading the original post is the Author is correct how inconsistent L.Harvey Smith is. HE HAS NO CLUE HOW TO MANAGE PEOPLE OR RUN GOVERMENT. DOESN”T MATTER IF IT’S CRIME, POTHOLES, OR THE LOWES….SMITH IS A CLUELESS DISATER! ***************** End Of Article ****************** If wishing made it so posted Message 7432 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 15:24:20 Subject: Re: HEALY WITHDRAWS FROM ELECTION - ENTERS SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM Oh Happy Day, Oh Happy Day, When Healy Drowned My Sorrows Away!! If he'd just leave the race and stick to drinking, we'd all be better off. : JERRY HEALY TO ENTER A SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM. HE WILL BE AWAY FOR AT LEAST 6 WEEKS. JERRY HEALY FINALLY HAD A WAKE UP CALL AFTER READING THE ARTICLE IN THE NY TIMES. HE NOW KNOWS HE HAS EMBARRASED HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY WITH HIS ADDICTION PROBLEMS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** glorious posted Message 7433 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 15:34:52 Subject: Grecian Gold? When Lou Manzo was running for the assembly he had grey hair. In the video I see that he now has light brown hair. Is the new "look" to impress the voters or Danny? ***************** End Of Article ****************** In the know posted Message 7434 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 15:51:07 Subject: Harvey Smith is gay ? I saw him on NJN and he is a fudge packer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy a disgrace posted Message 7435 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 15:55:06 Subject: Re: Grecian Gold? better than drunk & naked At least the last time I saw him he was fully dressed and sober unlike "68 Beer Jerry". : When Lou Manzo was running for the assembly he had grey hair. In the video I see that he now has light brown hair. : Is the new "look" to impress the voters or Danny? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Baseball Fan posted Message 7436 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 16:11:40 Subject: Berra or Manzo? In their lifetime, Who has been hit more times on the chin with foul balls? Yogi Ber ra or Lou Manzo ***************** End Of Article ****************** In the Know posted Message 7437 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 17:22:09 Subject: Lipski is Gay Very gay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** In the know posted Message 7438 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 17:23:51 Subject: Lipski and Tony Montana Perfect together ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7439 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 17:49:38 Subject: NJN News Covering the 31st Senate Race Tonite Tonite, NJN news covers the 31st Senate race. NJN news is on Comcast Channel 50 at 7:30PM, 11:00PM and also tomorrow at 6:30AM. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Produce the PIX or... posted Message 7440 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 19:01:05 Subject: Shut the hellup : : Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! : how can we vote for a person that is drinks all the time is this what he is going to do if he gets into office, think he drinks all time and does crazy things when he is drunk think is this what u want then vote for manzo he is the person that is going to get the job done and how can you trust a jew, when we all know that it is money first then beer and last the people of jersey city. When you look at around everything that he has is from the county and that is who going to to run jc that means everything that we have will be taken from us even the seniors will loss everything. so all i am asking is just think on novemeber 2 when you go to vote ***************** End Of Article ****************** Interested resident posted Message 7441 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 19:23:57 Subject: Where's part 2? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7442 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 19:58:34 Subject: Re: Where's part 2? Part 2 and Part 3 will be posted first thing Tuesday morning. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ggunit32687 posted Message 7443 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 20:05:06 Subject: LIPSKI next mayor says HCDO Lipski to get HCDO support as Healy gracefully bows out. Stay tuned. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jailbird posted Message 7444 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 20:26:43 Subject: Re: HEALY WITHDRAWS FROM ELECTION - ENTERS SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM : Oh Happy Day, Oh Happy Day, When Healy Drowned My Sorrows Away!! : If he'd just leave the race and stick to drinking, we'd all be better off. : : JERRY HEALY TO ENTER A SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM. HE WILL BE AWAY FOR AT LEAST 6 WEEKS. JERRY HEALY FINALLY HAD A WAKE UP CALL AFTER READING THE ARTICLE IN THE NY TIMES. HE NOW KNOWS HE HAS EMBARRASED HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY WITH HIS ADDICTION PROBLEMS. :::Mc Cann cried himself to sleep in the joint until Rasheed made him his sissy. That's embarrassing. Mc Cann, while mayor of JC, was banned from entering NYC because of his repeated drunk and disorderly. That's embarrassing. Mc Cann is a thief and government informant. That's embarrassing. Mc Cann started many fights with his mouth but never threw a punch. Always relied on companion to save his little butt. That's embarrassing. This post could continue ad infinitum but who needs it. Mc Cann has nothing to lose so he can carry on with his sociopathic behavior. Manzo is the only vehicle in town who would carry this load. ***************** End Of Article ****************** disgusted posted Message 7445 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 21:00:46 Subject: red flyer, red devil of all the crude,tasteless, no class, trashy posts i've seen on his blog, yesterday's gems from the Gaughan/Dixon home computer using the names red flyer, red devil , tommy, good government and others take the prize. these comments show the real character of these people. contemptible, red neck trash in polyester clothing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Was Never On the Payroll posted Message 7446 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 21:08:48 Subject: Ho Ho LIPSKI and I want to sell you some land downtown. Hello Barney Rubble. pop s: Lipski to get HCDO support as Healy gracefully bows out. Stay tuned. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy's Resignation Speech posted Message 7447 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 21:16:41 Subject: Re: Where's part 2? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Because, Healy is a loser posted Message 7448 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 21:18:59 Subject: Re: Menendez now wants Lou Manzofor Mayor Menenez will bend over just like Degise. : He said"We can do business,lou". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rehab Set for Tomorrow posted Message 7449 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 21:21:33 Subject: Re: HEALY WITHDRAWS FROM ELECTION - ENTERS SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM He's going through withdrawal as well speak. He should be dried out sufficiently to check in tomorrow morning. : Oh Happy Day, Oh Happy Day, When Healy Drowned My Sorrows Away!! : If he'd just leave the race and stick to drinking, we'd all be better off. : : JERRY HEALY TO ENTER A SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM. HE WILL BE AWAY FOR AT LEAST 6 WEEKS. JERRY HEALY FINALLY HAD A WAKE UP CALL AFTER READING THE ARTICLE IN THE NY TIMES. HE NOW KNOWS HE HAS EMBARRASED HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY WITH HIS ADDICTION PROBLEMS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Irish Nude posted Message 7450 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 21:24:24 Subject: Re: Harvey Smith is gay ? : I saw him on NJN and he is a fudge packer. The only GAY candidate in this election for mayor is our Honorable LOU LOU LOU Manzo and his friends from recreation and Billy, McCann the two way man .............., ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aren't You The Healy PR Guy? posted Message 7451 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 21:28:41 Subject: Tony Amabile why don;t you do more than just cash the checks from the Healy campaign and come to the defense of Jerry? Do something you A$$ Hole! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Maybe You Sobered Up? posted Message 7452 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 21:30:43 Subject: Re: Grecian Gold? better than drunk & naked Lou didn;t dye his hair maybe you see the world in a different light now that you stopped drinking. : At least the last tim. I saw him he was fully dressed and sober unlike "68 Beer Jerry". : : : When Lou Manzo was running for the assembly he had grey hair. In the video I see that he now has light brown hair. : : Is the new "look" to impress the voters or Danny? ***************** End Of Article ****************** DOG WATCHER posted Message 7453 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 21:49:09 Subject: Re: Healy says Tom DeGise is a Breathe of Fresh Air : There it is again. Stating alleged facts but not listing them. If they have these jobs, what are they and who has them? If afamily member lives in low-income housing, where does he/she live and what is his/her income? ;;;GAUGHAN:COUNCILMAN,CHIEF OF STAFF=2 JIMMY DICKSON, HCIA= 1 BRIGET GAUGHAN, COUNCILMAN'S AIDE=1 EILEEN GAUGHAN=HC CULTURAL , UTILITIES BOARD=2 ALL OF THE ABOVE POSITIONS ARE COMPENSATED. TOTAL=6 EILEEN GAUGHAN LIVES IN SUBSIDISED HOUSING IN UNION CITY ARRANGED BY RUDY GARCIA SEVERAL YEARS AGO. DO YOU WANT THE ADDRESS ON LINE. IDON'T THINK SO. HER SALARY IS PUBLIC RECORD . : : : In case NOBODY has noticed, the consultants these ridiculous posts mention are never named. Why? Because they don't exist!!! I like entertaining posts as much as the next person, but there has to be some credibility every once in a while, but there usually isn't. I can assure you that you will be hearing from me quite often, but you will never have to accuse me of not being credible or not listing facts and figures. : : ::Let's hear from you on the subject of Gaughan/Dicksons holding 6 jobs among 4 of them and 1 of them living in low income housing. This is credible. Let's hear contrary facts and figures. This issue can't stand daylight. : : : : : : : Healy said he likes tom degise because he 'cleaned house' after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski. Well Jerry in case you haven't noticed, ALL of Janizewski's high-paid consultants are still on the county's payroll, and have received fat increases and extended contracts from Tom Degise! What did Degise clean house with? : : : : : : : : : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : : : : : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : : : : : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 7454 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 11, 2004 at 21:58:20 Subject: Re: HEALY WITHDRAWS FROM ELECTION - ENTERS SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM :BREAKING NEWS HEALY STAYS IN THE RACE AND WILL STAY TILL NOVEMBER 2ND BECAUSE HE IS THE ONLY TRUTHFULL CANDIDATE IN THIS RACE. MANZO AND HIS FELONS ARE TRYING THEIR BES TO GET HIM OUT AND ARE FAILING MISERABLY THE VOTERS WILL SEE THIS DURING THE NEXT FEW WEEKS .YOU COULDNT WANT A MORE SINCERE AND HONEST MAN IN THE MAYORS OFFICE.AND I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMUNIST PAPER THE NEW YORK TIMES FAILED TO TELL HIS TRUE STORY. IF MANZO AND CONVICTED FELON AND BANK FRAUD GERRY TAKE THE MAYORS OFFICE THEY WILL MILK THE CITY DRY . AND YOUR TAXES WILL INCREASE DRAMATICALLY. RIGHT NOW THEY ARE OUT PAYING DRUG ADDICTS $2.00 A SIGN TO TAKE HEALY SIGNS OFF SUPPORTERS HOMES. AND THAT IS TRESPASSING. SO BEFORE YOU CAST YOUR VOTE ON NOVEMBER 2ND THINK TWICE BEFORE VOTING FOR THE MANZO FELONS. GO HEALY GOD BLESS YOU. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7455 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 04:27:10 Subject: What Ever Happened to Bucky -- the Male Stripper? Remember back in McCann's first round as Mayor that guy Bucky -- the Male Stripper. He put up BUCKY FOR MAYOR flyers all over town with a little picture of him at work. Looks like Bucky was way ahead of his time! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lost Weekend posted Message 7456 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 06:44:55 Subject: Healy's family realized that he had a drinking problem when . . . Healy's family realized that he had a drinking problem when they heard Jerry saying that he likes Tom Degise because the County Executive "cleaned house" after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** wondering posted Message 7457 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 07:12:32 Subject: Will Tony Amabile put these guys in the LOSERS column? Healy, Gaughan, Degise, Venezia, Demilier, AND HIS OWN SELF! And just think, this campaign of clowns was threatening to "get even" with Menendez after the election for not backing Healy. The 583 Newark crew better save up enough to get by with for the rest of their lives, for the clock is counting down now. : why don;t you do more than just cash the checks from the Healy campaign and come to the defense of Jerry? : Do something you A$$ Hole! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7458 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 07:26:43 Subject: NJN Video: 31st Senate Race NJN News covers the Special Election for Glenn Cunningham's seat in the State Senate. The candidates are Joe Doria, Anthony Chiappone, Kabili Tayari, and John Watson. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MeToo posted Message 7459 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 07:34:04 Subject: Now Senator Kenny like Lou Manzo for Mayor of JC Porky Pig Menendez and Kenny are now going to milk Lou Manzo and jersey city for four more years.Why do Jersey City have to with these two Xanadu Money cheerleaders. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Brain Dead posted Message 7460 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 07:48:03 Subject: Hudson County Loves McGreevey Now do you have any doubt that Hudson county Voters are Brain Dead?.We got Menendez, Kenny,Sacco, Doria, DeGise, Gaughan as other prime examples of corruption at its best.Glenn Cunningham was right about Xanadu and this bunch.Willie Flood goes against Cunningham for a little money from the County Inside boys.Glenn will never forgive her. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7461 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 08:03:00 Subject: Special Garbage Collection for Healy For Mayor Signs Jersey City voters dumping Healy For Mayor Signs can bring the trashed posters to the corner of Newark and Baldwin Avenues. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Double Exposure posted Message 7462 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 08:05:04 Subject: NY Times Exposes Healy exposure Just what Jersey City needs another black eye. See McCann if you want a picture for yourself and that you can show your Co-Workers.These are the kind od people who are part of the Hudson Conuty political machine.Corruption is alive and well here. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaynor-DeGise posted Message 7463 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 08:25:59 Subject: Does Tom Gaynor still think DeGise is for honest government? I remember him telling us that DeGise was the best thing since slice bread.What say now.Tom? ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALYFOR,MAYOR!GO JERRY! posted Message 7464 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 09:02:17 Subject: Re: Special Garbage Collection for Healy For Mayor Signs : we will not be dumping healy signs whatever you mazo scum are trying will not work.. well see what you have to say november 3rd!!!!! HEALY FOR MAYOR! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALYWINS posted Message 7465 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 09:04:15 Subject: Re: : HEALYWINSHEALYWINS!!!!healy wins!! HEALY WINS!!!!! LETS FACE IT YOU PEOPLE ARE TRYING ANYTHING BUT IT WILL NOT WORK!!HEALY WILL WIN THIS ELECTION!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey Smith Economics posted Message 7466 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 09:55:38 Subject: Four Supervisors get paid to play cards at DPW Dept Acting Mayor Smith has to be the biggest clown ever.Only in jersey City could this happen Jersey Journal should go down there and take pictures of the card game and do a taxpayers waste story on this one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Toastmaster posted Message 7467 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 10:12:50 Subject: Healy cheers Lipski (hiccup) Go Lipski ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy4Mayor posted Message 7468 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 10:17:38 Subject: Re: Healy cheers Lipski (hiccup) Lipski is a joke!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** For the Record posted Message 7469 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 10:26:35 Subject: A honest Democrat--"I will not vote for Menendez" He is the complete cause in the fall of Jersey City & hHdson County as a first class County & .City. Porky Pig will be toast. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cityof Jersey City posted Message 7470 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 10:29:20 Subject: Chief of Police The Jersey City Police Department will have its real chief return to work today! Welcome back Ron, remind them that payback is a b***h! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Interview posted Message 7471 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 10:44:06 Subject: McCann to interview Healy on his drinking problem He wants Healy to take care of his problem before taking on jersey city problems. Because they could really drive you to drink.Where can i get a moving van? ***************** End Of Article ****************** menendez and Kenny Go? posted Message 7472 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:01:49 Subject: Just How Low Will These two bullies will hopefully get their due when Lou is Mayor. I hope he puts the both of them over him knee and gives them a good spanking. : Porky Pig Menendez and Kenny are now going to milk Lou Manzo and jersey city for four more years.Why do Jersey City have to with these two Xanadu Money cheerleaders. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Eye in the Sky posted Message 7473 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:02:31 Subject: Amabile and Demellier - - - Two Failures Tony Amabile and Buddy Demellier are two losers that belong in the political Obits...not running a campaign. Buddy boy is on a three camnpaign losing streak that should embarrass him enough to hang his head in shame. The last successful campaign he ran was for Kiczek in Bayonne and since then he has failed every time. The only successful "sales" job he's done was getting Healy to hire him. Nice job there Buddy Boy. Amabile is a no-talent consultant that played on his "friendship" with now-disgraced pal Russo in Hoboken. This hack has globbed hundreds of thousands of dollars in contracts by bribing every politico he comes across. Guess Healy gets what he pays for this time around. When it gets tough out there....the rats jump ship. Or in this case...just when Healy needs them most, the Buddy and Tony show go under-ground hoping people will forget that they are the ones who failed....AGAIN. : : why don;t you do more than just cash the checks from the Healy campaign and come to the defense of Jerry? : Do something you A$$ Hole! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not Ron The Con! posted Message 7474 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:03:41 Subject: Re: Chief of Police Ron the Con is history. Lou's first act as mayor will be to officially fire his sorry a$$. : The Jersey City Police Department will have its real chief return to work today! Welcome back Ron, remind them that payback is a b***h! ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's a laugh posted Message 7475 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:04:25 Subject: Re: Chief of Police You consider Ron Bon a real chief? : The Jersey City Police Department will have its real chief return to work today! Welcome back Ron, remind them that payback is a b***h! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good! So Should Everyone ELse posted Message 7476 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:05:23 Subject: Re: A honest Democrat--"I will not vote for Menendez" I'am going to church, light some candles, say the rosary, put some money in the poor box, anything to get the Menedez scourge wiped from HC. : He is the complete cause in the fall of Jersey City & hHdson County as a first class County & .City. Porky Pig will be toast. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry WIll be Out by next week but the drinking party will go on posted Message 7477 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:07:55 Subject: Reduced Ticket Prices for Healy Fund Raiser tickets next week for Jerry's fund raiser are now selling at a 50% discount. Get them while they last! : : we will not be dumping healy signs whatever you mazo scum are trying will not work.. well see what you have to say november 3rd!!!!! HEALY FOR MAYOR! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ron Chief of the last Indian Trip in Sussex County posted Message 7478 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:09:01 Subject: Re: Chief of NJ Indians : You consider Ron Bon a real chief? : : The Jersey City Police Department will have its real chief return to work today! Welcome back Ron, remind them that payback is a b***h! ***************** End Of Article ****************** New Battle posted Message 7479 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:10:36 Subject: Rudy Garcia And Gaughan Against Menendez & Kenny And the winner will Be? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Weiner Lesniak posted Message 7480 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:11:10 Subject: Re: Hudson County Loves McGreevey Ray Lesniak hired McGreevey to work for him. His offical titel is Assistent Attorney Trainee. He will handle speeding tickets in Woodbridge Township. : Now do you have any doubt that Hudson county Voters are Brain Dead?.We got Menendez, Kenny,Sacco, Doria, DeGise, Gaughan as other prime examples of corruption at its best.Glenn Cunningham was right about Xanadu and this bunch.Willie Flood goes against Cunningham for a little money from the County Inside boys.Glenn will never forgive her. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DrGise's Cleaning Service posted Message 7481 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:14:05 Subject: Re: Healy's family realized that he had a drinking problem when . . . Yeah DeGise really cleaned up after Bobby J. He kept Bobby J's consultant on the payroll. He even bought them new vacuum cleaners to 'clean-out' any money left in the safe after Bobby J went away. Tom 'Clean-Govenment' DeGise. Hw will clean your pockets out! : Healy's family realized that he had a drinking problem when they heard Jerry saying that he likes Tom Degise because the County Executive "cleaned house" after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ANOTHER PROBLEM FOR HEALY posted Message 7482 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:16:00 Subject: Re: Rudy Garcia And Gaughan Against Menendez & Kenny : And the winner will Be? LOU MANZO ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy Paid Consultant posted Message 7483 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:16:34 Subject: Re: What Ever Happened to Bucky -- the Male Stripper? The Healy Brain trust actually thought the 'naked thing' would sell to the voters. These guys are sharp ain't they? All right Bucky! : Remember back in McCann's first round as Mayor that guy Bucky -- the Male Stripper. He put up BUCKY FOR MAYOR flyers all over town with a little picture of him at work. : Looks like Bucky was way ahead of his time! ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCann wasn't the one who was naked drunk posted Message 7484 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:18:37 Subject: Re: NY Times Exposes Healy exposure Gerry McCann wasn't the one who was passed out drunk. Jerry Healy is the black eye for Hudson County Politics. : Just what Jersey City needs another black eye. See McCann if you want a picture for yourself and that you can show your Co-Workers.These are the kind od people who are part of the Hudson Conuty political machine.Corruption is alive and well here. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loves Gerbals posted Message 7485 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:22:27 Subject: Tony Amabile Tony Amabile is gay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doesn't Demellier ALso Cash County Checks posted Message 7486 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:22:34 Subject: Re: Amabile and Demellier - - - Two Failures Isn't Demellier also on the county payroll? He's getting paid by the taxpayers to run Jerry Healy's campaign? And also getting paid by Healy? What is this guy doing, besides going to the races? Tom DeGise where do you draw the line? This is a outright disgrace. I'am sending this post to the JJ. DeGise got a whole lot of explaining to do. : Tony Amabile and Buddy Demellier are two losers that belong in the political Obits...not running a campaign. Buddy boy is on a three camnpaign losing streak that should embarrass him enough to hang his head in shame. The last successful campaign he ran was for Kiczek in Bayonne and since then he has failed every time. The only successful "sales" job he's done was getting Healy to hire him. Nice job there Buddy Boy. : Amabile is a no-talent consultant that played on his "friendship" with now-disgraced pal Russo in Hoboken. This hack has globbed hundreds of thousands of dollars in contracts by bribing every politico he comes across. : Guess Healy gets what he pays for this time around. When it gets tough out there....the rats jump ship. Or in this case...just when Healy needs them most, the Buddy and Tony show go under-ground hoping people will forget that they are the ones who failed....AGAIN. : : : : why don;t you do more than just cash the checks from the Healy campaign and come to the defense of Jerry? : : Do something you A$$ Hole! ***************** End Of Article ****************** dog watcher posted Message 7487 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:23:48 Subject: Re: Healy says Tom DeGise is a Breathe of Fresh Air : There it is again. Stating alleged facts but not listing them. If they have these jobs, what are they and who has them? If afamily member lives in low-income housing, where does he/she live and what is his/her income? :::::watch dog. cat got your tongue? all bark, no bite? "You can't handle the truth." : : : In case NOBODY has noticed, the consultants these ridiculous posts mention are never named. Why? Because they don't exist!!! I like entertaining posts as much as the next person, but there has to be some credibility every once in a while, but there usually isn't. I can assure you that you will be hearing from me quite often, but you will never have to accuse me of not being credible or not listing facts and figures. : : ::Let's hear from you on the subject of Gaughan/Dicksons holding 6 jobs among 4 of them and 1 of them living in low income housing. This is credible. Let's hear contrary facts and figures. This issue can't stand daylight. : : : : : : : Healy said he likes tom degise because he 'cleaned house' after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski. Well Jerry in case you haven't noticed, ALL of Janizewski's high-paid consultants are still on the county's payroll, and have received fat increases and extended contracts from Tom Degise! What did Degise clean house with? : : : : : : : : : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : : : : : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : : : : : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Swings Both Ways posted Message 7488 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:24:24 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile That is a lie! Tony is bi-$exual. ... but he does love gerbels. He's got a cage full at the county. : Tony Amabile is gay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** This Sorry Bunch Are History posted Message 7489 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 11:50:11 Subject: Re: Will Tony Amabile put these guys in the LOSERS column? Menendez will extract his ounce of revenge after the election by getting rid of most of these low-lifes, those that survive will get the boot from Lou. Tom DeGise do you get a teachers pension? : Healy, Gaughan, Degise, Venezia, Demilier, AND HIS OWN SELF! : And just think, this campaign of clowns was threatening to "get even" with Menendez after the election for not backing Healy. : The 583 Newark crew better save up enough to get by with for the rest of their lives, for the clock is counting down now. : : why don;t you do more than just cash the checks from the Healy campaign and come to the defense of Jerry? : : Do something you A$$ Hole! ***************** End Of Article ****************** All the People DeGise Added to the payroll $$$$$ posted Message 7490 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 12:31:49 Subject: Let's Get a List of... Comments about who is on that list would fill this bulletin board. We might need Tony Amibile's website to handle the overflow. : I remember him telling us that DeGise was the best thing since slice bread.What say now.Tom? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Eyes on the County posted Message 7491 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 12:40:10 Subject: Blind Gate III Tom DeGise the taxpayers of HC should know how you got your mother admitted to St. Joseph's Home For the Blind? What help did Donato Batista provide in transferring your mothers assets into your name so she could apply for free care because she was destitute? How much money does the county give to St. Josesph's each year to subisdize the care of destitute people? When is the free ride for the DeGise family going to end? When will YOU take care of your mother? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Enough to change my vote posted Message 7492 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 13:13:23 Subject: You digust me I support Manzo. Enough about people's families. I read another bullsh-t post about someone's drinking, sexual preferences or parents and you can all go to hell. I'm sick of it and all the garbage you people have thrown around this campaign. You are all a bunch of leaches waiting on your next payout from the public trust fund...the city budget. I couldn't care less if Tom DeGise pulled strings to get him mother into a county facility. You would have done the same damn thing if you could have. So cut the crap and find something relevant to talk about. : Tom DeGise the taxpayers of HC should know how you got your mother admitted to St. Joseph's Home For the Blind? : What help did Donato Batista provide in transferring your mothers assets into your name so she could apply for free care because she was destitute? : How much money does the county give to St. Josesph's each year to subisdize the care of destitute people? : When is the free ride for the DeGise family going to end? : When will YOU take care of your mother? : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nov Rain posted Message 7493 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 13:49:39 Subject: Buonocore with Healy Ron has made a deal with Healy. He will bring his inner circle in to work in the Healy camp. Ron Buonocore will be the Chief in the Healy Administration and his loyalists will now come first in line as far as the police positions go. Things change fast in Hudson County Politics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC Watchdog posted Message 7494 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 14:15:45 Subject: Re: Healy says Tom DeGise is a Breathe of Fresh Air Once again, let's set the record straight: A councilman's position is elected, and therefore if the people want him out they can VOTE him out. Also, the Utilities position is NOT a compensated position. : : There it is again. Stating alleged facts but not listing them. If they have these jobs, what are they and who has them? If afamily member lives in low-income housing, where does he/she live and what is his/her income? : ;;;GAUGHAN:COUNCILMAN,CHIEF OF STAFF=2 : JIMMY DICKSON, HCIA= 1 : BRIGET GAUGHAN, COUNCILMAN'S AIDE=1 : EILEEN GAUGHAN=HC CULTURAL , UTILITIES BOARD=2 : ALL OF THE ABOVE POSITIONS ARE COMPENSATED. : TOTAL=6 : EILEEN GAUGHAN LIVES IN SUBSIDISED HOUSING IN UNION CITY ARRANGED BY RUDY GARCIA SEVERAL YEARS AGO. DO YOU WANT THE ADDRESS ON LINE. IDON'T THINK SO. HER SALARY IS PUBLIC RECORD . : : : : In case NOBODY has noticed, the consultants these ridiculous posts mention are never named. Why? Because they don't exist!!! I like entertaining posts as much as the next person, but there has to be some credibility every once in a while, but there usually isn't. I can assure you that you will be hearing from me quite often, but you will never have to accuse me of not being credible or not listing facts and figures. : : : ::Let's hear from you on the subject of Gaughan/Dicksons holding 6 jobs among 4 of them and 1 of them living in low income housing. This is credible. Let's hear contrary facts and figures. This issue can't stand daylight. : : : : : : : : : : Healy said he likes tom degise because he 'cleaned house' after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski. Well Jerry in case you haven't noticed, ALL of Janizewski's high-paid consultants are still on the county's payroll, and have received fat increases and extended contracts from Tom Degise! What did Degise clean house with? : : : : : : : : : : : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : : : : : : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : : : : : : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Historian posted Message 7495 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 14:20:54 Subject: Do you really want to recount Gerry's History? You say Healy gave us a black eye? Let's not forget a 33 month jail term. Let's not forget voter supression. Let's not forget the "real" Gerry McCann. We don't have enough raw meat in this town to treat all the black eyes we've gotten from our elected "leaders". : Gerry McCann wasn't the one who was passed out drunk. Jerry Healy is the black eye for Hudson County Politics. : : : Just what Jersey City needs another black eye. See McCann if you want a picture for yourself and that you can show your Co-Workers.These are the kind od people who are part of the Hudson Conuty political machine.Corruption is alive and well here. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City Mayor Poll Results posted Message 7496 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 14:27:21 Subject: . NJCU reported these statistics from a recent survey Conducted on 10/01/04 Assemblyman Lou Manzo - 23% Mayor L. Harvey Smith - 17% Councilman Jerry Healy - 13% Willie Flood - 10% Councilman Steve Lipski - 9% Other - 6% Undecided - 22% + - of 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hard to Believe posted Message 7497 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 14:27:57 Subject: Re: Buonocore with Healy Its hard to believe this post since we all know Ron is a self-centered S.O.B. who would more likely leave all of his people holding the bag, rather than getting them jobs. Ron has never looked out for anyone but Ron. : Ron has made a deal with Healy. He will bring his inner circle in to work in the Healy camp. Ron Buonocore will be the Chief in the Healy Administration and his loyalists will now come first in line as far as the police positions go. Things change fast in Hudson County Politics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Katie posted Message 7498 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 14:43:46 Subject: Mayoral Poll Who can we call at NJCU to verify these #'s. : NJCU reported these statistics from a recent survey Conducted on 10/01/04 : : Assemblyman Lou Manzo - 23% : Mayor L. Harvey Smith - 17% : Councilman Jerry Healy - 13% : Willie Flood - 10% : Councilman Steve Lipski - 9% : Other - 6% : Undecided - 22% : + - of 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** QueeerEye posted Message 7499 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 14:48:15 Subject: Re: What Ever Happened to Bucky -- the Male Stripper? I can promise you this . . . The thought of Healy naked is certainly not engraciating him with the gay community. As far as this homo is concerned, JERRY GET DRESSED!!! : The Healy Brain trust actually thought the 'naked thing' would sell to the voters. These guys are sharp ain't they? : All right Bucky! : : : Remember back in McCann's first round as Mayor that guy Bucky -- the Male Stripper. He put up BUCKY FOR MAYOR flyers all over town with a little picture of him at work. : : Looks like Bucky was way ahead of his time! ***************** End Of Article ****************** AA posted Message 7500 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 15:22:55 Subject: I wuz drinkin heavy at the time. I wuz drinkin heavy at the time. This is what some poor slob is supposed to say to the judge after getting dragged into court. This IS NOT what a JUDGE is supposed to say when running for mayor! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Justin posted Message 7501 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 15:27:28 Subject: Re: Mayoral Poll I’m not sure whom you can call but I was one of the students doing the poll. We sampled over 1500 people and this is the end result. I think the University will be releasing the poll to the Jersey Journal @ the end of the week. Hope this helps. : : : : Assemblyman Lou Manzo - 23% : : Mayor L. Harvey Smith - 17% : : Councilman Jerry Healy - 13% : : Willie Flood - 10% : : Councilman Steve Lipski - 9% : : Other - 6% : : Undecided - 22% : : + - of 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** dog watcher posted Message 7502 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 15:45:31 Subject: Re: Healy says Tom DeGise is a Breathe of Fresh Air : Once again, let's set the record straight: A councilman's position is elected, and therefore if the people want him out they can VOTE him out. Also, the Utilities position is NOT a compensated position. :::councilman is a job, he gets paid. Utilities board is well compensated by free enrollment in one of the best medical plans in the world. It costs the taxspayers a lot of money. Also she travels on taxpayer money on boondoggles around the country, usually accompanied by her mother. Nothing to say about Briget, Jimmy, Eileens housing? I answered your questions, will you answer mine? : : : There it is again. Stating alleged facts but not listing them. If they have these jobs, what are they and who has them? If afamily member lives in low-income housing, where does he/she live and what is his/her income? : : ;;;GAUGHAN:COUNCILMAN,CHIEF OF STAFF=2 : : JIMMY DICKSON, HCIA= 1 : : BRIGET GAUGHAN, COUNCILMAN'S AIDE=1 : : EILEEN GAUGHAN=HC CULTURAL , UTILITIES BOARD=2 : : ALL OF THE ABOVE POSITIONS ARE COMPENSATED. : : TOTAL=6 : : EILEEN GAUGHAN LIVES IN SUBSIDISED HOUSING IN UNION CITY ARRANGED BY RUDY GARCIA SEVERAL YEARS AGO. DO YOU WANT THE ADDRESS ON LINE. IDON'T THINK SO. HER SALARY IS PUBLIC RECORD . : : : : : In case NOBODY has noticed, the consultants these ridiculous posts mention are never named. Why? Because they don't exist!!! I like entertaining posts as much as the next person, but there has to be some credibility every once in a while, but there usually isn't. I can assure you that you will be hearing from me quite often, but you will never have to accuse me of not being credible or not listing facts and figures. : : : : ::Let's hear from you on the subject of Gaughan/Dicksons holding 6 jobs among 4 of them and 1 of them living in low income housing. This is credible. Let's hear contrary facts and figures. This issue can't stand daylight. : : : : : : : : : : : : : Healy said he likes tom degise because he 'cleaned house' after taking over from Bobby Janiszewski. Well Jerry in case you haven't noticed, ALL of Janizewski's high-paid consultants are still on the county's payroll, and have received fat increases and extended contracts from Tom Degise! What did Degise clean house with? : : : : : : : : : : : : : Watched Healy, Smith, Manzo, Flood and Lipski on the New Jersey Network, On the Record program this morning. : : : : : : : All made credible appearances except for Willie. Michael Aron, the interviewer, spoke very slowly for Willie so she could understand his questions. She still seemed as dumb as a doorknob in her responses. : : : : : : : Willie Flood is slow-witted, poorly informed and perhaps one of the worst candidates ever to run for Mayor of Jersey City. The keeper of the Cunningham Legacy eh ? No wonder Sandy won't give her full support. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 7503 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:04:40 Subject: SANDRA CUNNINGHAM'S COMMENTS ON LOU MANZO & ACTING MAYOR L. HARVEY SMITH SANDRA CUNNINGHAM'S COMMENTS ON LOU MANZO & ACTING MAYOR L. HARVEY SMITH Urban Times News October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 When asked for her thoughts on former Cunningham running mate Lou Manzo endorsing Joe Doria who holds the Cunningham Senate seat,'Mrs. Cunningham was gracious through her disgust. It doesn't surprise me that he would do something like that," she said. Lou betrayed my husband in the end so it is certainly his choice and I am not surprised by it. We asked for Ms. Cunningham's reactions to the campaign propaganda that Acting Mayor L. Smith has distributed, she was contained. What do you do when you see some of the stuff he's said or hear his commercials on the radio? "If I hear it, I turn it off. If I see it, I look away. Let's just leave it at that." ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 7504 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:08:38 Subject: Manzo is a crook!!! Just like his convict brother and convict campaign manager. If someone would still vote for him after knowing this they are just dumb. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 7505 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:11:40 Subject: Uncle Harvey is a SCUM BAG Look at the people he has working for him. A bunch of people who are down on their luck and can be easily manipulated with phony job promises!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 7506 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:12:47 Subject: Healy is a DRUNK CROSSDRESSER I saw him in NY!! With a dress on!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 7507 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:12:54 Subject: SECOND DEBATE AS USEFUL AS THE FIRST SECOND DEBATE AS USEFUL AS THE FIRST Urban Times News October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 UTN Staff Jersey City mayoral candidates Louis Manzo, Willie Flood, L. Harvey Smith, Jeremiah Healy, Steve Lipski, Alfred Marc Pine and Hilario Nunez Jr. attended a mayoral forum hosted by Jersey City Lesbian and Gay Outreach (JCLGO) organization at St. Matthew's Evangelical Lutheran Church , 85 Wayne St., Jersey City. Graciously hosted by Pastor Gladys Moore, the event was scheduled for a 7:30pm start. Constituents gathered in the basement vestibule and fellowshipped while awaiting candidates detained by the city council meeting (and the historic designation for the Warehouse District that would help save the residents of 111 First St.) now a priority as votes are needed and the election draws near. Ms. Flood was the first to arrive and awaited the other candidates. Pastor Moore greeted her making small talk that revealed a mounting annoyance with the circumstances. This particular constituency feels slighted in much of every day politics as the issues often ignore the observance of their basic rights. As was murmured in the crowd, the voters would blackball a no-show at this venue. At 8:00 they filed upstairs to take their seats in the church. Willie Flood was the first to arrive (on time) and waited patiently for the others. Lesser known candidates, Alfred Marc Pine and Hilario Nunez Jr., also arrived before those detained by the Council Meeting. They introduced themselves to the audience and made some opening statements as Lipski arrived. Lipski made opening comments, confident because his assistant was in the organization and comfortable before the crowd. He quickly grabbed some glory for the designation vote and stated his case like the others. The platforms continued as Manzo, Smith and Healy also made their entrances. Smith shook all hands but Ms. Flood's as he sat, while Healy simply faded into the crowd of candidates. The JCLGO is a political and social organization representing the causes and interests of its Jersey City gay, lesbian, trans-gender, and b1sexual constituency. The organization is especially earnest in its political motivations this year given the recent events with governor McGreevy as well as the Bush position on a constitutional denial of gay rights. While their issues are specific the consequences are far-reaching. Infringement upon their rights is only a precursor to infringement upon other basic liberties for all of us. The issue with these debates however was that the reassurances sought by the questions were rendered mute in a town where 55% of voters support Governor McGreevy, don't think his resignation was motivated by this sexual preference, and would support pro-gay legislation. In effect the candidates had the basic sense to acknowledge human rights. On city issues everyone had something to say but no one seemed to be saying anything different. Ms. Flood's comments were limited and her time was shortened by a previously scheduled engagement, so she left about midway through the forum. Smith, Healy, and Lipski took turns claiming credit and regurgitating key points that have played well in Council Chambers. While Mr. Smith had planted a very obvious cadre of loyal city employees in the middle of the audience, they overplayed their hand when the crowd noticed that they clapped before Smith had said anything. Later the moderator would ask for no reaction to the answers to neutralize the political gamesmanship, but the Harveyites had other instructions. The unknowns made themselves heard by radically criticizing current policy and espousing personal issues they'd like to see corrected. Mr. Manzo seemed at ease with the crowd but did not galvanize support any more effectively than the others. All in all, there was no incentive to change one's mind, about whomever they had originally considered. Earlier in the day, candidate Ron Buonocore, whose residency was challenged in court, had his case thrown out. With his ineligibility confirmed, Buonocore is out of the race, and perhaps a job as well. The less than forgiving Acting Mayor has made no indication that he will remove his appointee, Acting Police Chief Lieutenant Robert Blake. The remaining candidates have already chosen their positions on the ballot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 7508 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:14:15 Subject: Lipski Is VERY Feminine He changes his mind like the trees change colors. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WOW!!! posted Message 7509 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:20:04 Subject: Manzo and McCann perfect together!!!! That's PRICELESS!!! LOL I saw the signs. Whoever is doing it keep it up!!! You need bigger signs! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Shut up Sandra posted Message 7510 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:20:41 Subject: Re: SANDRA CUNNINGHAM'S COMMENTS ON LOU MANZO & ACTING MAYOR L. HARVEY SMITH : SANDRA CUNNINGHAM'S COMMENTS ON LOU MANZO & ACTING MAYOR L. HARVEY SMITH : Urban Times News : October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 : When asked for her thoughts on former Cunningham running mate Lou Manzo endorsing Joe Doria who holds the Cunningham Senate seat,'Mrs. Cunningham was gracious through her disgust. It doesn't surprise me that he would do something like that," she said. Lou betrayed my husband in the end so it is certainly his choice and I am not surprised by it. : We asked for Ms. Cunningham's reactions to the campaign propaganda that Acting Mayor L. Smith has distributed, she was contained. What do you do when you see some of the stuff he's said or hear his commercials on the radio? "If I hear it, I turn it off. If I see it, I look away. Let's just leave it at that." Sandra was nothing but an annoyance when Glenn was alive. Now, I wish she would just go away ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ain't that a shame posted Message 7511 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:21:04 Subject: Hey Lipski....get your STAFF under controll well since this low life takes shots at Manzo, Healy and Smith it seems obvious he works for Lipski. How lame. : I saw him in NY!! With a dress on!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aint that a shame posted Message 7512 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:22:12 Subject: Hey Lipski...put the liquor bottles out of reach Come on Stevie...your staff has nothing better to do? : Look at the people he has working for him. A bunch of people who are down on their luck and can be easily manipulated with phony job promises!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ain't that a shame posted Message 7513 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:23:32 Subject: Hey Lipski....you're out of control....and ideas Such desperation...its so unbecoming. : Just like his convict brother and convict campaign manager. If someone would still vote for him after knowing this they are just dumb. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Citizen posted Message 7514 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:23:43 Subject: I thought there was an ordinance against putting signs on polls!! See Manzo is purposely breaking the law. He was so hard on the Cheif but he is breaking laws himself. Would someone please look into this matter? I know he got the letter. He should be fined. And he can't use his brother's dirty money to pay it off! ***************** End Of Article ****************** RM posted Message 7515 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:32:41 Subject: I put my money on Willie! She is the only one not throwing mud and running a dirty campaign. Keep taking the high road Willie in the end you WILL come out shining like that beautiful smile!! Go Willie!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 7516 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:34:52 Subject: By getting Ron Bon out you gave the election to Willie. With Sandy's support she is going to be hard to beat!!! : SANDRA CUNNINGHAM'S COMMENTS ON LOU MANZO & ACTING MAYOR L. HARVEY SMITH : Urban Times News : October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 : When asked for her thoughts on former Cunningham running mate Lou Manzo endorsing Joe Doria who holds the Cunningham Senate seat,'Mrs. Cunningham was gracious through her disgust. It doesn't surprise me that he would do something like that," she said. Lou betrayed my husband in the end so it is certainly his choice and I am not surprised by it. : We asked for Ms. Cunningham's reactions to the campaign propaganda that Acting Mayor L. Smith has distributed, she was contained. What do you do when you see some of the stuff he's said or hear his commercials on the radio? "If I hear it, I turn it off. If I see it, I look away. Let's just leave it at that." ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Reader posted Message 7517 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:36:29 Subject: Amen!! Ain't that the truth!! : She is the only one not throwing mud and running a dirty campaign. Keep taking the high road Willie in the end you WILL come out shining like that beautiful smile!! Go Willie!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC Watchdog posted Message 7518 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:56:37 Subject: Re: Healy says Tom DeGise is a Breathe of Fresh Air Being that Eileen works for the County, are you saying that she has TWO medical benefits packages? If this is true, then I would have to agree that it is too much. However, I still don't agree with regard to the Councilman position. He is elected and can be "un-elected" the next time around (especially if he runs for Mayor) ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 7519 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 16:59:03 Subject: Re: I put my money on Willie! A real nice guy ! : He is the only one not throwing mud and running a dirty campaign. Keep taking the high road Willie in the end you WILL come out shining like that beautiful smile!! Go Willie!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 7520 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 17:15:32 Subject: Where is Willie Flood's Elec Report How can he be a mayor when he can't even file an ELEC report ? A nice guy but dumb as a door knob. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 7520 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 17:15:32 Subject: Where is Willie Flood's Elec Report How can he be a mayor when he can't even file an ELEC report ? A nice guy but dumb as a door knob. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 7521 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 17:24:22 Subject: Harvey Smith a much better mayor and man than Glenn Cunningham Harvey Smith would have beat Glenn Cunningham easily in May 2005. If Glenn hadn't passed he would have been finished politically any way. Heck Lipski would have beat Cunningham this time around. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wonderful posted Message 7522 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 17:36:15 Subject: The Jack-ass Dolan is back We thought you crawled into a hole and died. Wioshful thinking I guess. : How can he be a mayor when he can't even file an ELEC report ? : A nice guy but dumb as a door knob. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Doctor posted Message 7523 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 17:38:14 Subject: Someone please send DOLAN an Rx for psychosis It seems they let Dolan out before the therapy was complete. SOmeone please call the guys in white jackets with that big fruitcake net to come take him away!!! : : He is the only one not throwing mud and running a dirty campaign. Keep taking the high road Willie in the end you WILL come out shining like that beautiful smile!! Go Willie!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Eye in the Sky posted Message 7524 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 17:40:33 Subject: Wasn't that Dolan I saw.... yeah.... it must have been him... with that dumbass look on his face trying to figure out how to work the computer at the JC public library. He kept talking into the mouse... what a dumb-ass. : How can he be a mayor when he can't even file an ELEC report ? : A nice guy but dumb as a door knob. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Man in White Coat... posted Message 7525 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 17:44:21 Subject: Did anyone see Dolan....? I hate to inform the public of the sad fact that J Dolan escaped from Meadowview last evening. We thought he was securely tied down to his bed, but he apparently used his sharp tongue to cut through the bed sheets and escaped. If anyone has information on his whereabouts, please call 888-nut-jobs and we will come pick him up. Do not approach or agitate him under any circumstances because the medication he is on may make him psychotic and violent. Thank you, Meadowview Staff : Harvey Smith would have beat Glenn Cunningham easily in May 2005. : If Glenn hadn't passed he would have been finished politically any way. Heck Lipski would have beat Cunningham this time around. ***************** End Of Article ****************** W's Wire posted Message 7526 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 17:46:09 Subject: Re: SECOND DEBATE AS USEFUL AS THE FIRST I'm surprised that they didn't mention Uncle Harvey having the answers passed to him... : SECOND DEBATE AS USEFUL AS THE FIRST : Urban Times News : October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 : UTN Staff : Jersey City mayoral candidates Louis Manzo, Willie Flood, L. Harvey Smith, Jeremiah Healy, Steve Lipski, Alfred Marc Pine and Hilario Nunez Jr. attended a mayoral forum hosted by Jersey City Lesbian and Gay Outreach (JCLGO) organization at St. Matthew's Evangelical Lutheran Church , 85 Wayne St., Jersey City. Graciously hosted by Pastor Gladys Moore, the event was scheduled for a 7:30pm start. Constituents gathered in the basement vestibule and fellowshipped while awaiting candidates detained by the city council meeting (and the historic designation for the Warehouse District that would help save the residents of 111 First St.) now a priority as votes are needed and the election draws near. : Ms. Flood was the first to arrive and awaited the other candidates. Pastor Moore greeted her making small talk that revealed a mounting annoyance with the circumstances. This particular constituency feels slighted in much of every day politics as the issues often ignore the observance of their basic rights. As was murmured in the crowd, the voters would blackball a no-show at this venue. At 8:00 they filed upstairs to take their seats in the church. Willie Flood was the first to arrive (on time) and waited patiently for the others. Lesser known candidates, Alfred Marc Pine and Hilario Nunez Jr., also arrived before those detained by the Council Meeting. They introduced themselves to the audience and made some opening statements as Lipski arrived. Lipski made opening comments, confident because his assistant was in the organization and comfortable before the crowd. He quickly grabbed some glory for the designation vote and stated his case like the others. The platforms continued as Manzo, Smith and Healy also made their entrances. Smith shook all hands but Ms. Flood's as he sat, while Healy simply faded into the crowd of candidates. : The JCLGO is a political and social organization representing the causes and interests of its Jersey City gay, lesbian, trans-gender, and b1sexual constituency. The organization is especially earnest in its political motivations this year given the recent events with governor McGreevy as well as the Bush position on a constitutional denial of gay rights. While their issues are specific the consequences are far-reaching. Infringement upon their rights is only a precursor to infringement upon other basic liberties for all of us. The issue with these debates however was that the reassurances sought by the questions were rendered mute in a town where 55% of voters support Governor McGreevy, don't think his resignation was motivated by this sexual preference, and would support pro-gay legislation. In effect the candidates had the basic sense to acknowledge human rights. : On city issues everyone had something to say but no one seemed to be saying anything different. Ms. Flood's comments were limited and her time was shortened by a previously scheduled engagement, so she left about midway through the forum. Smith, Healy, and Lipski took turns claiming credit and regurgitating key points that have played well in Council Chambers. While Mr. Smith had planted a very obvious cadre of loyal city employees in the middle of the audience, they overplayed their hand when the crowd noticed that they clapped before Smith had said anything. Later the moderator would ask for no reaction to the answers to neutralize the political gamesmanship, but the Harveyites had other instructions. : The unknowns made themselves heard by radically criticizing current policy and espousing personal issues they'd like to see corrected. Mr. Manzo seemed at ease with the crowd but did not galvanize support any more effectively than the others. All in all, there was no incentive to change one's mind, about whomever they had originally considered. : Earlier in the day, candidate Ron Buonocore, whose residency was challenged in court, had his case thrown out. With his ineligibility confirmed, Buonocore is out of the race, and perhaps a job as well. The less than forgiving Acting Mayor has made no indication that he will remove his appointee, Acting Police Chief Lieutenant Robert Blake. The remaining candidates have already chosen their positions on the ballot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let Tom Foot The Bill posted Message 7527 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:23:44 Subject: The Taxpayers Need to Know If Degise actually transferred his mothers assets so she could get a free ride, ie., he doesn't have to pay than that is a disgrace, not asking the qustion. If its not true than let DeGise make a public statement to that effect, ie., I did not transfer my mothers assets into my name or other family memebers. Donato Batista did not help me with the transfer. I did not do this so my mother gets her care for freee while other hard working families have to pay for their loved one's plus my mother. my mothers situation has nothing to do with the amount of subsidy Hudson County provides to St. Joseph's home for the blind. Lets hear it Tommy Boy! : I support Manzo. Enough about people's families. I read another bullsh-t post about someone's drinking, sexual preferences or parents and you can all go to hell. I'm sick of it and all the garbage you people have thrown around this campaign. You are all a bunch of leaches waiting on your next payout from the public trust fund...the city budget. I couldn't care less if Tom DeGise pulled strings to get him mother into a county facility. You would have done the same damn thing if you could have. So cut the crap and find something relevant to talk about. : : Tom DeGise the taxpayers of HC should know how you got your mother admitted to St. Joseph's Home For the Blind? : : What help did Donato Batista provide in transferring your mothers assets into your name so she could apply for free care because she was destitute? : : How much money does the county give to St. Josesph's each year to subisdize the care of destitute people? : : When is the free ride for the DeGise family going to end? : : When will YOU take care of your mother? : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Two Losers with a capital L posted Message 7528 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:26:57 Subject: Re: Buonocore with Healy Let's see Ron Who tried to con the voters of JC with his bogus claim to live here. Jerry Healy who is struggling with an Alcohol problem. The two together, a match mad in hell. The two together couldn't get elected dog catcher at the Bronx Zoo. : Ron has made a deal with Healy. He will bring his inner circle in to work in the Healy camp. Ron Buonocore will be the Chief in the Healy Administration and his loyalists will now come first in line as far as the police positions go. Things change fast in Hudson County Politics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** For Sale posted Message 7529 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:30:22 Subject: Re: Lipski Is He goes to the highest bidder. Go to Lipski.com and post your bids. Remember, Lipski doesn't have a city or county job, but high bid on contributions to his campaign are welcome. Barney Rubble is waiting for your check. : He changes his mind like the trees change colors. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gate Keeper posted Message 7530 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:31:18 Subject: Re: The Jack-ass Dolan is back Apparently when we thought this guy had gone away we jumped to the wrong conclusion. Dolan is like a bad toothache....you have to just drill it till its gone for good. Hopefully if Manzo wins he'll see this idiot for what he is and dump him like a bad habit. : We thought you crawled into a hole and died. Wishful thinking I guess. : : How can he be a mayor when he can't even file an ELEC report ? : : A nice guy but dumb as a door knob. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Excuse for a Mayor posted Message 7531 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:32:34 Subject: Re: Harvey Smith a Explain why Glenn beat his but for Senator? NOBODY would have beaten Glenn if he was still with us, NOBODY. Harvey, you get what you pay for, not much. : Harvey Smith would have beat Glenn Cunningham easily in May 2005. : If Glenn hadn't passed he would have been finished politically any way. Heck Lipski would have beat Cunningham this time around. ***************** End Of Article ****************** From Manzo Signs posted Message 7532 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:35:17 Subject: Ronnie is not arond to protect the public That's a step in the right direction. Bye Bye Ronnie! I hear Hardystone needs a night guard at the library. Sub-lease your digs on Columbia Ave. : See Manzo is purposely breaking the law. He was so hard on the Cheif but he is breaking laws himself. Would someone please look into this matter? I know he got the letter. He should be fined. And he can't use his brother's dirty money to pay it off! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Second The Motion posted Message 7533 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:37:26 Subject: Re: Uncle Harvey is a SCUM BAG Harvey is taking BIG contributions and then not delivering. A real life SCUM BAG, hope you can swim harvey, we ain;t forgetting what you did. : Look at the people he has working for him. A bunch of people who are down on their luck and can be easily manipulated with phony job promises!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lipski Recruiter posted Message 7534 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:38:46 Subject: Hey Dumb-ass Dolan.... Go work for Lipski... Hey Dumb-ass Dolan.... why don't you go work for Lipski. You would fit in better with his crew than Manzo's. At least most of Manzo's people can tell a man from a woman. If Bonocoure was still in it... i would say you belong there. But without that option...the only other place would be ... like the other guy said...tied up in Meadowview. ***************** End Of Article ****************** She Lost it With Ron Bon posted Message 7535 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:40:34 Subject: What are you Smoking And, Willie is doing this for a payday. : With Sandy's support she is going to be hard to beat!!! : : : SANDRA CUNNINGHAM'S COMMENTS ON LOU MANZO & ACTING MAYOR L. HARVEY SMITH : : Urban Times News : : October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 : : When asked for her thoughts on former Cunningham running mate Lou Manzo endorsing Joe Doria who holds the Cunningham Senate seat,'Mrs. Cunningham was gracious through her disgust. It doesn't surprise me that he would do something like that," she said. Lou betrayed my husband in the end so it is certainly his choice and I am not surprised by it. : : We asked for Ms. Cunningham's reactions to the campaign propaganda that Acting Mayor L. Smith has distributed, she was contained. What do you do when you see some of the stuff he's said or hear his commercials on the radio? "If I hear it, I turn it off. If I see it, I look away. Let's just leave it at that." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let's Help Bobby and Bernie posted Message 7536 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:43:09 Subject: Re: Rudy Garcia And Gaughan Against Menendez & Kenny Let's start a collection to buy Menendez and Kenny knee pads so they will be comfortable all the time they are bowing down and kissing Lou's feet. 'Anything you want Lou, anything!!!! : : And the winner will Be? : LOU MANZO ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Helped Also posted Message 7537 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:45:43 Subject: Re: Mayoral Poll Yeap, these are the numbers. The data doesn;t lie. Check it out. : I’m not sure whom you can call but I was one of the students doing the poll. We sampled over 1500 people and this is the end result. I think the University will be releasing the poll to the Jersey Journal @ the end of the week. Hope this helps. : : : : : : Assemblyman Lou Manzo - 23% : : : Mayor L. Harvey Smith - 17% : : : Councilman Jerry Healy - 13% : : : Willie Flood - 10% : : : Councilman Steve Lipski - 9% : : : Other - 6% : : : Undecided - 22% : : : + - of 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Sense Infatuation posted Message 7538 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:48:53 Subject: Re: Do you really want to recount Gerry's History? You may not like Gerry McCann but he is not running for Mayor, so what is this obsession with Gerry McCann? Does he make your Willie tingle? : You say Healy gave us a black eye? Let's not forget a 33 month jail term. Let's not forget voter supression. Let's not forget the "real" Gerry McCann. We don't have enough raw meat in this town to treat all the black eyes we've gotten from our elected "leaders". : : Gerry McCann wasn't the one who was passed out drunk. Jerry Healy is the black eye for Hudson County Politics. : : : : : Just what Jersey City needs another black eye. See McCann if you want a picture for yourself and that you can show your Co-Workers.These are the kind od people who are part of the Hudson Conuty political machine.Corruption is alive and well here. ***************** End Of Article ****************** To Drop Out posted Message 7539 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:51:14 Subject: Jerry Getting Ready Jerry's laughing, how could anybody be so stupid as to promote me for Mayor? Hah! Ha! Hah! I need a refill. : well since this low life takes shots at Manzo, Healy and Smith : it seems obvious he works for Lipski. How lame. : : : I saw him in NY!! With a dress on!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** When are you coming to Jerry's Defense? posted Message 7540 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:53:35 Subject: Tony Amabile Let's earn your keep Tony. Say something for Chri$t sake! Aren't you on the payroll? Do Something. Jerry is dangling in the wind and your no where to be found. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ya know what I think..... posted Message 7541 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 19:55:28 Subject: Re: Ronnie is not arond to protect the public :::We should take some of the dirty money and buy you a dictionary. : That's a step in the right direction. Bye Bye Ronnie! : I hear Hardystone needs a night guard at the library. : Sub-lease your digs on Columbia Ave. : : See Manzo is purposely breaking the law. He was so hard on the Cheif but he is breaking laws himself. Would someone please look into this matter? I know he got the letter. He should be fined. And he can't use his brother's dirty money to pay it off! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nobody Told Harvey What These Guys Do posted Message 7542 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 20:11:21 Subject: Re: Four Supervisors get paid to play cards at DPW Dept Harvey is waiting to learn what DPW Dept does. Give the guy a break! He made it through High School because he could play basketball. : Acting Mayor Smith has to be the biggest clown ever.Only in jersey City could this happen Jersey Journal should go down there and take pictures of the card game and do a taxpayers waste story on this one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** healywil posted Message 7543 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 21:00:11 Subject: HEAL STRONGER JERRAMIAH HEALY IS GETTING STRONGER IN THE POLES DESPITE THE NEW YORK TIME MISQUOTE. MANZO IS FALLING BACK AS USUAL HE ALWAYS PEAKE EARLY HE DID IT AGAINST DEGISE AND LOST. AND NOW AGAIN WITH HEALY. IT SEEMS HEALY JUST WONT GO AWAY SO THE MCMANZO TEAM CAN RAPE THE TAXPAYERS OF JERSEY CITY. SO KEEP THROWING ALL YOUR DIRT LOU IT IS MAKING JERRY WORK HARDER TO WIN. OH YEAH A IT TIME TO PLAY HARDBALL BEWARE . AND THE SIGN WITH YOUR PIC ON IT IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO READ SOON . WHERE IS THE SECOND STORY MAN RICKY HIDIND RONNIE AND COMPANY LOOKING FOR HIM GO JERRY!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerzzycity posted Message 7544 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 21:17:48 Subject: LIPSKI gains - Others drop! Lipski RV to the rescue!!!! Charge!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** kokie posted Message 7545 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 21:18:59 Subject: Re: LIPSKI drops the boom! Look out for Lipski. Look out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JCIA posted Message 7546 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 21:20:25 Subject: Re: LIPSKI CLEANS HOUSE Lips is rooling and their ain't no stoppni him now ***************** End Of Article ****************** HaHaHa posted Message 7547 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 12, 2004 at 23:52:18 Subject: Re: HEAL STRONGER :::TITLE OF YOUR POST SAYS IT ALL! YOU A$$ES CAN'T EVEN SPELL THE NAME OF YOUR OWN CANDIDATE! MISS BARBARA, RING THE BELL, ROMPER ROOM (THE CITY COUNCIL) IS ABOUT TO BEGIN. MEETING PLACE - THE ASTOR BAR. : JERRAMIAH HEALY IS GETTING STRONGER IN THE POLES DESPITE THE NEW YORK TIME MISQUOTE. MANZO IS FALLING BACK AS USUAL HE ALWAYS PEAKE EARLY HE DID IT AGAINST DEGISE AND LOST. AND NOW AGAIN WITH HEALY. : IT SEEMS HEALY JUST WONT GO AWAY SO THE MCMANZO TEAM CAN RAPE THE TAXPAYERS OF JERSEY CITY. : SO KEEP THROWING ALL YOUR DIRT LOU IT IS MAKING JERRY WORK HARDER TO WIN. : OH YEAH A IT TIME TO PLAY HARDBALL BEWARE . : AND THE SIGN WITH YOUR PIC ON IT IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO READ SOON : . WHERE IS THE SECOND STORY MAN RICKY HIDIND RONNIE AND COMPANY LOOKING FOR HIM GO JERRY!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** 22% Undecided posted Message 7548 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 07:16:42 Subject: Re: NJCU Mayoral Poll With an undecided electorate of 22% and a 6% for other candidates, the election is not a sure thing for anyone...I am actively encouraging everyone to vote for Al Pine. I'd rather have the devil that you don't know instead of the devils that we do know. Twenty-eight per cent to Lou's 23% is a comfortable margin for victory against corruption! : NJCU reported these statistics from a recent survey Conducted on 10/01/04 : : Assemblyman Lou Manzo - 23% : Mayor L. Harvey Smith - 17% : Councilman Jerry Healy - 13% : Willie Flood - 10% : Councilman Steve Lipski - 9% : Other - 6% : Undecided - 22% : + - of 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gasp...something resembling the truth from UTN posted Message 7549 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 07:25:47 Subject: Re: SECOND DEBATE AS USEFUL AS THE FIRST I cannot stand UTN but I have to admit that this is a fairly accurate account of the 2nd debate. I was in the audience and can speak from first-hand knowledge. What's written here is pretty much the truth of what happened. I'm as shocked as everyone else about this "enlightenment" of UTN. : SECOND DEBATE AS USEFUL AS THE FIRST : Urban Times News : October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 : UTN Staff : Jersey City mayoral candidates Louis Manzo, Willie Flood, L. Harvey Smith, Jeremiah Healy, Steve Lipski, Alfred Marc Pine and Hilario Nunez Jr. attended a mayoral forum hosted by Jersey City Lesbian and Gay Outreach (JCLGO) organization at St. Matthew's Evangelical Lutheran Church , 85 Wayne St., Jersey City. Graciously hosted by Pastor Gladys Moore, the event was scheduled for a 7:30pm start. Constituents gathered in the basement vestibule and fellowshipped while awaiting candidates detained by the city council meeting (and the historic designation for the Warehouse District that would help save the residents of 111 First St.) now a priority as votes are needed and the election draws near. : Ms. Flood was the first to arrive and awaited the other candidates. Pastor Moore greeted her making small talk that revealed a mounting annoyance with the circumstances. This particular constituency feels slighted in much of every day politics as the issues often ignore the observance of their basic rights. As was murmured in the crowd, the voters would blackball a no-show at this venue. At 8:00 they filed upstairs to take their seats in the church. Willie Flood was the first to arrive (on time) and waited patiently for the others. Lesser known candidates, Alfred Marc Pine and Hilario Nunez Jr., also arrived before those detained by the Council Meeting. They introduced themselves to the audience and made some opening statements as Lipski arrived. Lipski made opening comments, confident because his assistant was in the organization and comfortable before the crowd. He quickly grabbed some glory for the designation vote and stated his case like the others. The platforms continued as Manzo, Smith and Healy also made their entrances. Smith shook all hands but Ms. Flood's as he sat, while Healy simply faded into the crowd of candidates. : The JCLGO is a political and social organization representing the causes and interests of its Jersey City gay, lesbian, trans-gender, and b1sexual constituency. The organization is especially earnest in its political motivations this year given the recent events with governor McGreevy as well as the Bush position on a constitutional denial of gay rights. While their issues are specific the consequences are far-reaching. Infringement upon their rights is only a precursor to infringement upon other basic liberties for all of us. The issue with these debates however was that the reassurances sought by the questions were rendered mute in a town where 55% of voters support Governor McGreevy, don't think his resignation was motivated by this sexual preference, and would support pro-gay legislation. In effect the candidates had the basic sense to acknowledge human rights. : On city issues everyone had something to say but no one seemed to be saying anything different. Ms. Flood's comments were limited and her time was shortened by a previously scheduled engagement, so she left about midway through the forum. Smith, Healy, and Lipski took turns claiming credit and regurgitating key points that have played well in Council Chambers. While Mr. Smith had planted a very obvious cadre of loyal city employees in the middle of the audience, they overplayed their hand when the crowd noticed that they clapped before Smith had said anything. Later the moderator would ask for no reaction to the answers to neutralize the political gamesmanship, but the Harveyites had other instructions. : The unknowns made themselves heard by radically criticizing current policy and espousing personal issues they'd like to see corrected. Mr. Manzo seemed at ease with the crowd but did not galvanize support any more effectively than the others. All in all, there was no incentive to change one's mind, about whomever they had originally considered. : Earlier in the day, candidate Ron Buonocore, whose residency was challenged in court, had his case thrown out. With his ineligibility confirmed, Buonocore is out of the race, and perhaps a job as well. The less than forgiving Acting Mayor has made no indication that he will remove his appointee, Acting Police Chief Lieutenant Robert Blake. The remaining candidates have already chosen their positions on the ballot. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Reported posted Message 7550 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 07:51:04 Subject: Healy and Bradley Beach..... Healy the honest man, tell us the naked truth.....Bradley Beach police record......10 beers and you lost control...... N.J. SHORE and the Mayor candidate to be continue......... ***************** End Of Article ****************** MAYOR'S RACE POLL OCT 9 -12 posted Message 7551 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 08:08:17 Subject: PEOPLES CHOICE LTD. MANZO-22% HARVEY SMITH 20% HEALY 9% LIPSKY 18% FLOOD 3% OTHER CANDIDATES 1-1.5% HEALY FLOOD AND MANZO NEGATIVE AT 28 -32% MARGIN OF ERROR 4% CALLED 350 REGISTER VOTERS WITH 275 RESPONDED ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerzzycity posted Message 7552 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 08:52:58 Subject: Re: REFORM GOVERNMENT NOW - LIPSKI ! : MANZO-22% : HARVEY SMITH 20% : HEALY 9% : LIPSKY 18% : FLOOD 3% : OTHER CANDIDATES 1-1.5% : HEALY FLOOD AND MANZO NEGATIVE AT 28 -32% : MARGIN OF ERROR 4% : CALLED 350 REGISTER VOTERS : WITH 275 RESPONDED ***************** End Of Article ****************** ajhgdjbn posted Message 7553 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 09:24:09 Subject: Re: Buonocore with Healy : thats not true ron is not with healy!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amabile is a Waste of Money posted Message 7554 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 09:39:27 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile Tony Amabile has never done an honest day's work. And half the time he's actually working against the candidate cutting his paycheck. He has a history of selling out to the opposition and sinking candidates he's supposed to be working for. That way he collects his "fee" and his bribe from the opposition. Anyone in Hudson who hasn't caught onto this is a bit slow. : Let's earn your keep Tony. Say something for Chri$t sake! : Aren't you on the payroll? Do Something. Jerry is dangling in the wind and your no where to be found. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That may be your thing..... posted Message 7555 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 09:42:10 Subject: Re: Do you really want to recount Gerry's History? WHen and idiot has no response....he spouts garbage. : You may not like Gerry McCann but he is not running for Mayor, so what is this obsession with Gerry McCann? Does he make your Willie tingle? : : : You say Healy gave us a black eye? Let's not forget a 33 month jail term. Let's not forget voter supression. Let's not forget the "real" Gerry McCann. We don't have enough raw meat in this town to treat all the black eyes we've gotten from our elected "leaders". : : : Gerry McCann wasn't the one who was passed out drunk. Jerry Healy is the black eye for Hudson County Politics. : : : : : : : Just what Jersey City needs another black eye. See McCann if you want a picture for yourself and that you can show your Co-Workers.These are the kind od people who are part of the Hudson Conuty political machine.Corruption is alive and well here. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MIKEY posted Message 7556 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 09:58:37 Subject: Re: REFORM GOVERNMENT NOW - LIPSKI ! : : POLL IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND NUMBERS NOT EVEN ACCURATE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 7557 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 09:58:44 Subject: Not what you smoke! Payday you say? Where is the proof? Her name isn't Uncle Harvey!! : And, Willie is doing this for a payday. : : With Sandy's support she is going to be hard to beat!!! : : : : : : SANDRA CUNNINGHAM'S COMMENTS ON LOU MANZO & ACTING MAYOR L. HARVEY SMITH : : : Urban Times News : : : October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 : : : When asked for her thoughts on former Cunningham running mate Lou Manzo endorsing Joe Doria who holds the Cunningham Senate seat,'Mrs. Cunningham was gracious through her disgust. It doesn't surprise me that he would do something like that," she said. Lou betrayed my husband in the end so it is certainly his choice and I am not surprised by it. : : : We asked for Ms. Cunningham's reactions to the campaign propaganda that Acting Mayor L. Smith has distributed, she was contained. What do you do when you see some of the stuff he's said or hear his commercials on the radio? "If I hear it, I turn it off. If I see it, I look away. Let's just leave it at that." ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 7558 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:01:54 Subject: Uncle Harvey isn't even qualified to take out a bum's garbage!! You are out of touch with reality. : Harvey Smith would have beat Glenn Cunningham easily in May 2005. : If Glenn hadn't passed he would have been finished politically any way. Heck Lipski would have beat Cunningham this time around. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher. posted Message 7559 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:06:24 Subject: Not even Close!! There's nothing scientific about this idiodic poll!! Lou Willie Jerry Harvey Lipski : : : : POLL IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND NUMBERS NOT EVEN ACCURATE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know posted Message 7560 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:12:46 Subject: Panzo is a fudge packing butt nut CROOK!!!!!! I really hate this man with a passion. He is a backstabber and everybody knows it. You will get yours frootie lou!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cops posted Message 7561 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:14:44 Subject: It's OFFICIAL J DOLAN IS USING HEROIN!!!!!!! : Harvey Smith would have beat Glenn Cunningham easily in May 2005. : If Glenn hadn't passed he would have been finished politically any way. Heck Lipski would have beat Cunningham this time around. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JOSEPH J.GALLO JR posted Message 7562 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:23:04 Subject: It is my privilege and honor to support Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. In the spirit of my uncle, the late Freeholder Hank Gallo, I am supporting and endorsing Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. Willie Flood will lend to City Hall a women's touch in tidying up the corrupt system that has kept Jersey City down for the past several months. I would hope that Ms. Flood gets all the support from the Cunningham legacy constituency, and I pray that she does well in the election and achieves the status of the first African-American woman mayor of Jersey City. Willie Flood transcends all race, gender, socio-economic and racial boundaries. A lifelong educator, friend of the seniors, and a dedicated Democrat, Willie Flood has the credentials to be an effective mayor of Jersey City. It is my privilege and honor to support Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. Best of luck to Willie Flood and her campaign staff, and remember, "After the storm comes the FLOOD." JOSEPH J.GALLO JR Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Drink this posted Message 7563 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:26:10 Subject: Re: HEALY getting drunker : :::TITLE OF YOUR POST SAYS IT ALL! YOU A$$ES CAN'T EVEN SPELL THE NAME OF YOUR OWN CANDIDATE! MISS BARBARA, RING THE BELL, ROMPER ROOM (THE CITY COUNCIL) IS ABOUT TO BEGIN. MEETING PLACE - THE ASTOR BAR. : : JERRAMIAH HEALY IS GETTING STRONGER IN THE POLES DESPITE THE NEW YORK TIME MISQUOTE. MANZO IS FALLING BACK AS USUAL HE ALWAYS PEAKE EARLY HE DID IT AGAINST DEGISE AND LOST. AND NOW AGAIN WITH HEALY. : : IT SEEMS HEALY JUST WONT GO AWAY SO THE MCMANZO TEAM CAN RAPE THE TAXPAYERS OF JERSEY CITY. : : SO KEEP THROWING ALL YOUR DIRT LOU IT IS MAKING JERRY WORK HARDER TO WIN. : : OH YEAH A IT TIME TO PLAY HARDBALL BEWARE . : : AND THE SIGN WITH YOUR PIC ON IT IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO READ SOON : : . WHERE IS THE SECOND STORY MAN RICKY HIDIND RONNIE AND COMPANY LOOKING FOR HIM GO JERRY!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 7564 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:35:22 Subject: BUONOCORE OUT... AS POLICE CHIEF TOO? BUONOCORE OUT... AS POLICE CHIEF TOO? Urban Times News October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 by UTN Staff While the rest of the candidates were preparing for the second set of public debates, former Police Chief and mayoral candidate Ron Buonocore struggled to maintain his political lifeline in the County Appellate Court. His campaign was first pronounced dead when Superior Court Judge Maurice Gallipoli threw out his case on Monday as well as lawyer Alex Booth's contention that his client's extensive Jersey City public service was some nebulous equivalent of fulfilling resident eligibility requirements. The end was confirmed when the appellate court in Hackensack upheld the previous decision on Wednesday. Now the Buonocore team must prepare for the challenge of reclaiming his job. In a letter addressed to Acting Mayor and fellow Buonocore antagonist L. Harvey Smith, mayoral candidate and Assemblyman Lou Manzo said that Buonocore should be fired because he was, "either unaware of the laws governing residency and public office or was deliberately misleading voters about his residency status. Our public safety professionals should remain just that - professionals who do not sink to the political games championed by Mr. Buonocore," Manzo wrote. A spokesman, Dave Vermillion, responded to the letter citing Manzo's association with convicted felon and former Jersey City Mayor Gerald McCann, though Manzo is rumored to have since fired McCann as his chief political strategist. "Anyone who counts known criminals among their friends would want to unseat an outstanding police chief," he said. "Louis Manzo is no different." Manzo's claims that Buonocore had only been a Jersey City resident since July and was not eligible to run in the upcoming special election were upheld by Superior Court Judge Gallipoli, who said Buonocore's living situation did not meet the standard of a residence as defined by law. Gallipoli also ruled against the chief's challenge to the residency requirement and said that evaluating the requirement on a case-by-case basis would essentially mandate chaos for the legal system. Booth challenged the ruling on constitutional grounds, saying the residency requirement shouldn't apply to the chief because his work experience addressed the reasons for having a requirement in the first place: to ensure a candidate is familiar with local affairs and to give voters a chance to get to know the candidates. It was a stretch in the minds of laymen, and preposterous in the mind of this jurist as well as the Appellate Court. The 54-year-old Buonocore was no longer a candidate. Now the Police Chief who rose through the ranks to eventually lead the department and spent nearly his entire adult life working for the city finds himself, like too many Jersey City residents, unemployed. Put on temporary leave by the Acting Mayor, it is unlikely that his former opponent will allow his easy return to the department, a point Smith made clear in a statement earlier this week saying he would not reinstate the police chief regardless of the court ruling. Since the appellate court decision, Hudson County Clerk Javier Inclan can now print and send out the necessary Jersey City's ballots. Last Friday, a drawing was held to select the ballot positions for the remaining candidates. Booth has not broached the possibility of an appeal to the state Supreme Court. This plan seems fruitless given that no ruling would come in time for the November special elections. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Estatic!!!!!! posted Message 7565 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:36:37 Subject: Re: It is my privilege and honor to support Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. Finally, someone who cares about the City. We will bring the LOVE back to City Hall! : In the spirit of my uncle, the late Freeholder Hank Gallo, I am supporting and endorsing Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. Willie Flood will lend to City Hall a women's touch in tidying up the corrupt system that has kept Jersey City down for the past several months. I would hope that Ms. Flood gets all the support from the Cunningham legacy constituency, and I pray that she does well in the election and achieves the status of the first African-American woman mayor of Jersey City. Willie Flood transcends all race, gender, socio-economic and racial boundaries. : A lifelong educator, friend of the seniors, and a dedicated Democrat, Willie Flood has the credentials to be an effective mayor of Jersey City. : It is my privilege and honor to support Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. : Best of luck to Willie Flood and her campaign staff, and remember, "After the storm comes the FLOOD." : JOSEPH J.GALLO JR : Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bayonne Bleeder posted Message 7566 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:38:10 Subject: 31st District Race- Joe Gotta Go! In the mix of this great Jersey City Mayor's race (I like Al Pine!!hehehe) don't forget the Senate race! Don't let Fat Joe back in! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Professional posted Message 7567 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:40:46 Subject: This isn't some political experiment. Leave the polls to the pros. A real poll costs over 30,000 dollars. And it is done citywide. 1500 isn't even 3/4 of ward F. So keep your little misinformation to yourself. : Yeap, these are the numbers. The data doesn;t lie. Check it out. : : : I’m not sure whom you can call but I was one of the students doing the poll. We sampled over 1500 people and this is the end result. I think the University will be releasing the poll to the Jersey Journal @ the end of the week. Hope this helps. : : : : : : : : Assemblyman Lou Manzo - 23% : : : : Mayor L. Harvey Smith - 17% : : : : Councilman Jerry Healy - 13% : : : : Willie Flood - 10% : : : : Councilman Steve Lipski - 9% : : : : Other - 6% : : : : Undecided - 22% : : : : + - of 3% ***************** End Of Article ****************** Go commit suicide Dolan. posted Message 7568 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:49:50 Subject: Willie is 100% Woman!!!! And she will be the next Mayor. : She is the only one not throwing mud and running a dirty campaign. Keep taking the high road Willie in the end you WILL come out shining like that beautiful smile!! Go Willie!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know posted Message 7569 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:52:27 Subject: There is and I think We should see the ACTOR Mayor about this!!!! Or did he cut a deal? : See Manzo is purposely breaking the law. He was so hard on the Cheif but he is breaking laws himself. Would someone please look into this matter? I know he got the letter. He should be fined. And he can't use his brother's dirty money to pay it off! ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's Priceless!! posted Message 7570 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:55:17 Subject: FAT JOE!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!! LOL!!!!! : In the mix of this great Jersey City Mayor's race (I like Al Pine!!hehehe) don't forget the Senate race! Don't let Fat Joe back in! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Level Headed posted Message 7571 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 10:58:56 Subject: Re: Willie is 100% Woman!!!! Yes...Willie is a woman....and an extremely nice person. But its doubtful she will ever be Mayor of JC. Hopefully...she will have a large role in whatever administration takes office in November. : And she will be the next Mayor. : : : She is the only one not throwing mud and running a dirty campaign. Keep taking the high road Willie in the end you WILL come out shining like that beautiful smile!! Go Willie!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ya Ya posted Message 7572 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 11:04:50 Subject: Harvey Smith as stupid as they come Harvey Smith may be the biggest moron ever to come out of the Jersey City School System. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ye Gads! posted Message 7573 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 11:15:53 Subject: Re: Willie is 100% Leech!!!! She needs to learn what a paycheck is that isn't on the public teet! What do you mean "hopefully she will have a large role in whatever administration takes office in November"? That's the problem with Jersey City and Hudson County...all the same people all the time doing nothing at all but collecting a paycheck. It's time to do away with her and others that bleed the taxpayers dry. : Yes...Willie is a woman....and an extremely nice person. But its doubtful she will ever be Mayor of JC. Hopefully...she will have a large role in whatever administration takes office in November. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise Poster Boy posted Message 7574 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 11:34:59 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile Sadly, I think your right. Amabile is the type of low-life that DeGise likes on his payroll. I guess it takes one to know one. : Tony Amabile has never done an honest day's work. And half the time he's actually working against the candidate cutting his paycheck. He has a history of selling out to the opposition and sinking candidates he's supposed to be working for. That way he collects his "fee" and his bribe from the opposition. Anyone in Hudson who hasn't caught onto this is a bit slow. : : Let's earn your keep Tony. Say something for Chri$t sake! : : Aren't you on the payroll? Do Something. Jerry is dangling in the wind and your no where to be found. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lost 8 Points in One Week! posted Message 7575 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 11:47:08 Subject: Healy Slipping Badly The big news with the poll is how badly Healy is slipping, just 3 days after the bombshell in the NY Times hit. He will lose more ground this week. Too bad Willie and Harvey are at each others throats. United I think they could pull it off. : Lou : Willie : Jerry : Harvey : Lipski : : : : : : POLL IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND NUMBERS NOT EVEN ACCURATE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doesn't Matter posted Message 7576 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 11:48:47 Subject: Re: Harvey Smith as stupid as they come He was a basketball player not a student. Don't get confused. Besides, their is no minimum IQ test to become Mayor. I don;t think you even have to read or write. : Harvey Smith may be the biggest moron ever to come out of the Jersey City School System. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He's Radioactive posted Message 7577 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 11:54:17 Subject: Who Would Want This Guy? I don;t see where any of the candidates would want him back. The only hope was with Harvey, if somehow he cut a secret deal with Ron Bon for his support in return to get his old job back if Harvey wins. : BUONOCORE OUT... AS POLICE CHIEF TOO? : Urban Times News : October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 : by UTN Staff : While the rest of the candidates were preparing for the second set of public debates, former Police Chief and mayoral candidate Ron Buonocore struggled to maintain his political lifeline in the County Appellate Court. His campaign was first pronounced dead when Superior Court Judge Maurice Gallipoli threw out his case on Monday as well as lawyer Alex Booth's contention that his client's extensive Jersey City public service was some nebulous equivalent of fulfilling resident eligibility requirements. The end was confirmed when the appellate court in Hackensack upheld the previous decision on Wednesday. Now the Buonocore team must prepare for the challenge of reclaiming his job. : In a letter addressed to Acting Mayor and fellow Buonocore antagonist L. Harvey Smith, mayoral candidate and Assemblyman Lou Manzo said that Buonocore should be fired because he was, "either unaware of the laws governing residency and public office or was deliberately misleading voters about his residency status. Our public safety professionals should remain just that - professionals who do not sink to the political games championed by Mr. Buonocore," Manzo wrote. : A spokesman, Dave Vermillion, responded to the letter citing Manzo's association with convicted felon and former Jersey City Mayor Gerald McCann, though Manzo is rumored to have since fired McCann as his chief political strategist. "Anyone who counts known criminals among their friends would want to unseat an outstanding police chief," he said. "Louis Manzo is no different." : Manzo's claims that Buonocore had only been a Jersey City resident since July and was not eligible to run in the upcoming special election were upheld by Superior Court Judge Gallipoli, who said Buonocore's living situation did not meet the standard of a residence as defined by law. Gallipoli also ruled against the chief's challenge to the residency requirement and said that evaluating the requirement on a case-by-case basis would essentially mandate chaos for the legal system. Booth challenged the ruling on constitutional grounds, saying the residency requirement shouldn't apply to the chief because his work experience addressed the reasons for having a requirement in the first place: to ensure a candidate is familiar with local affairs and to give voters a chance to get to know the candidates. It was a stretch in the minds of laymen, and preposterous in the mind of this jurist as well as the Appellate Court. The 54-year-old Buonocore was no longer a candidate. : Now the Police Chief who rose through the ranks to eventually lead the department and spent nearly his entire adult life working for the city finds himself, like too many Jersey City residents, unemployed. Put on temporary leave by the Acting Mayor, it is unlikely that his former opponent will allow his easy return to the department, a point Smith made clear in a statement earlier this week saying he would not reinstate the police chief regardless of the court ruling. : Since the appellate court decision, Hudson County Clerk Javier Inclan can now print and send out the necessary Jersey City's ballots. Last Friday, a drawing was held to select the ballot positions for the remaining candidates. Booth has not broached the possibility of an appeal to the state Supreme Court. This plan seems fruitless given that no ruling would come in time for the November special elections. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who Concedes Defeat at the Hands of Lou Manzo posted Message 7578 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 11:56:33 Subject: Sounds Like the Words of A Healy Supporter -- Get all of that venom out of you system now. When Louis is Mayor come and see him, he will get you some help. : I really hate this man with a passion. He is a backstabber and everybody knows it. You will get yours frootie lou!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not Enough Bathromms Down THere posted Message 7579 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 11:58:17 Subject: Re: Healy and Bradley Beach..... Give Jerry a break. When you gotta go you gotta go. : Healy the honest man, tell us the naked truth.....Bradley : Beach police record......10 beers and you lost control...... : N.J. SHORE and the Mayor candidate to be continue......... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry Springer posted Message 7580 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 12:00:38 Subject: Jerry Healy on -- Its true. Jerry Healy is scheduled to make an appearance on the Jerry Springer show to explain why he takes his clothes off in public. Something about the new campaign strategy of the 21st century. Poll shown, alot of Jerry Springer fans live in JC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He is a sellout!!! posted Message 7581 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 12:05:44 Subject: He is stupider than the stupidist stupd person!!!! Dropout!!! : Harvey Smith may be the biggest moron ever to come out of the Jersey City School System. ***************** End Of Article ****************** True posted Message 7582 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 12:06:58 Subject: Re: He is stupider than the stupidist stupid person!!!! Idiot!! : Dropout!!! : : : Harvey Smith may be the biggest moron ever to come out of the Jersey City School System. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr. Freud posted Message 7583 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 12:14:11 Subject: Hate is such a revealing thing..... When one has such a deep seated hatred for another due to his perceived deviation from the norm, it is a reflection of the hater's lack of self-image and ability to identify with those he would consider "normal". Thus he sees himself as a reflection of the one he professes to hate. In this case it seems the writer has not dealt with his own lack of sexual identity, and therefore must "hate" anyone who may provide a reflection of his "inner self". This theory is further bolstered by the writer's use of the word "passion" when describing his own feelings of hatred towards Mr. Manzo. As we all know, there is a very thin line between love and hate. In this case it is apparent that the writer has "feelings" for Mr. Manzo which he has yet to reconcile. : I really hate this man with a passion. He is a backstabber and everybody knows it. You will get yours frootie lou!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sick and Tired posted Message 7584 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 12:24:47 Subject: Lipski and Anthony Anthony, Give us a break, you have an agenda and this website now proves it! Now you have designed Lipski's website and feature him prominently on this website. How much did he give you or are you doing it our of the kindness of your heart? He tosses you some business and you whor e yourself to him now! Shows us your real side! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7585 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 12:35:40 Subject: Would you like to advertise here? Ad space is still available. If anyone would like to purchase an ad the e-mail address is getnj@getnj.com. : Anthony, : Give us a break, you have an agenda and this website now proves it! : Now you have designed Lipski's website and feature him prominently on this website. : How much did he give you or are you doing it our of the kindness of your heart? : He tosses you some business and you whor e yourself to him now! : Shows us your real side! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The real Poll posted Message 7586 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 13:19:47 Subject: Re: PEOPLES CHOICE LTD. : MANZO-Jail : HARVEY SMITH NAACP : HEALY Mayor of Jersey City : LIPSKY Principal of an "all boys school" : FLOOD House wife : MARGIN OF ERROR none : CALLED 350 REGISTER VOTERS : WITH 275 RESPONDED ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 7587 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 13:20:28 Subject: Re: . Joseph Gallo Jr. is Gay : Finally, someone who cares about the City. We will bring the LOVE back to City Hall! : : : In the spirit of my uncle, the late Freeholder Hank Gallo, I am supporting and endorsing Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. Willie Flood will lend to City Hall a women's touch in tidying up the corrupt system that has kept Jersey City down for the past several months. I would hope that Ms. Flood gets all the support from the Cunningham legacy constituency, and I pray that she does well in the election and achieves the status of the first African-American woman mayor of Jersey City. Willie Flood transcends all race, gender, socio-economic and racial boundaries. : : A lifelong educator, friend of the seniors, and a dedicated Democrat, Willie Flood has the credentials to be an effective mayor of Jersey City. : : It is my privilege and honor to support Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. : : Best of luck to Willie Flood and her campaign staff, and remember, "After the storm comes the FLOOD." : : JOSEPH J.GALLO JR : : Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** I don't buy it. posted Message 7588 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 13:37:03 Subject: You must be a FAG too!!! And I don't mean a cigarette in london!! HOMO!!! : When one has such a deep seated hatred for another due to his perceived deviation from the norm, it is a reflection of the hater's lack of self-image and ability to identify with those he would consider "normal". Thus he sees himself as a reflection of the one he professes to hate. : In this case it seems the writer has not dealt with his own lack of sexual identity, and therefore must "hate" anyone who may provide a reflection of his "inner self". This theory is further bolstered by the writer's use of the word "passion" when describing his own feelings of hatred towards Mr. Manzo. As we all know, there is a very thin line between love and hate. In this case it is apparent that the writer has "feelings" for Mr. Manzo which he has yet to reconcile. : : I really hate this man with a passion. He is a backstabber and everybody knows it. You will get yours frootie lou!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Your day is coming Dolan posted Message 7589 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 13:45:04 Subject: You better watch it you DEGENERATE!!!!!! Watch your mouth. : : Finally, someone who cares about the City. We will bring the LOVE back to City Hall! : : : : : In the spirit of my uncle, the late Freeholder Hank Gallo, I am supporting and endorsing Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. Willie Flood will lend to City Hall a women's touch in tidying up the corrupt system that has kept Jersey City down for the past several months. I would hope that Ms. Flood gets all the support from the Cunningham legacy constituency, and I pray that she does well in the election and achieves the status of the first African-American woman mayor of Jersey City. Willie Flood transcends all race, gender, socio-economic and racial boundaries. : : : A lifelong educator, friend of the seniors, and a dedicated Democrat, Willie Flood has the credentials to be an effective mayor of Jersey City. : : : It is my privilege and honor to support Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. : : : Best of luck to Willie Flood and her campaign staff, and remember, "After the storm comes the FLOOD." : : : JOSEPH J.GALLO JR : : : Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward F resident. posted Message 7590 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 13:49:22 Subject: UNCLE HARVEY WON"T GET 1 BLACK VOTE!!! He is a dirty slob who likes to intimidate women.He is a P U S S Y!! I hope I see him in the street at night. Maybe on the Hooker block!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hmmmmm posted Message 7591 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 13:55:01 Subject: Tris McCall report on L. Harvey Smith A few weeks ago, I was very close to endorsing L. Harvey Smith for Mayor of Jersey City. I had a post more or less written in my head: The Case for Harvey Smith, or In Defense of Harvey Smith, something like that. I was going to say that in a field with no real powerhouse candidate -- and a general election coming up in May -- it would be wrong to turn over the reins of municipal government to an unknown quantity so soon after Smith had taken office. I felt we should give the Acting Mayor some time to make good on both his promises, and on the lofty and strenuous words he spoke at City Council meetings and on the steps of City Hall on behalf of our public culture. Harvey Smith had been dealt a bad hand. He had to succeed a popular mayor -- one who represented the political aspirations of the City's most-maligned ward -- over the strident objections of Cunningham supporters. The rush to put a halo over the head of the late Mayor Cunningham has made Smith look like an interloper or usurper by contrast: an accidental mayor, a temporary and hastily-improvised patch over a bleeding wound. Smith has been called a stooge of the HCDO, a nepotist, an Uncle Tom. Throughout, he's had the shadow of defeat in the November elections looming over everything he's done, undercutting his authority. If he has seemed perpetually embattled, bruised, diminished by infighting, that's no accident: with no public mandate, he hasn't been able to act the part of the political strongman. But Smith has had advantages that the other candidates haven't had. We can appraise their supporters and imagine hypotheticals, but we don't really know what a Mayor Manzo or Mayor Flood would be like. On the other hand, we have had a good three months to examine Mayor Smith in action. That might not be enough time to get a full EKG reading on his leadership, but it's more than just a municipal heartbeat. It's fair to judge Smith on his record, especially since he's the only candidate who has one. For better and for worse, he is the incumbent, and the November elections are a referendum on Mr. Smith's Jersey City, and Mr. Smith's leadership. With incumbency come benefits. For the past three months, Harvey Smith has gotten to put his name and his face on every event, opening, and happening held in Jersey City. If there was a dog show, it became the L. Harvey Smith dog show, if there was a karaoke contest, he came down to it and blessed it with his name and the authority of his position. That's his prerogative as chief executive, and if you thought (as many residents did) that it demeaned the office of the mayor to have L. Harvey Smith's banner and seal plastered behind renditions of "I Will Survive", remember that he had mere weeks to introduce himself to the people of Jersey City before he went to the general public to ask for a removal of the word "Acting" from his job description. An incumbent facing an election is only as powerful as his poll numbers and name recognition show him to be. Nobody is going to listen to a sitting mayor if they've got a pretty good inkling that he's about to be shown the door by the electorate. So if there's been a certain desperation to Smith as he's chased events around town, pledging his commitment wherever he can, it is perhaps understandable. Without a wide base of support, and a sense of gathering momentum, the Smith administration would have been stillborn: something to ride out until November. In order to make the most of his three months, L. Harvey Smith had to behave like a man with a good chance to get his hands on, at the very least, another six. But for those of us on the other end of his pledges -- supporters of 111 First Street, for instance, or the Friends of the Loew's -- Smith's electioneering often raised expectations to unrealistic levels. When Mayor Smith ran to the Old Gold Smokestack and assured the tenants at the Arts Center that there was no way he'd allow Lloyd Goldman to take the structure down, he was clearly blowing smoke. I don't mean to suggest that there has been anything disingenuous about the Acting Mayor's support of the Arts District; Smith's heart may have well been in the right place that day. But he allowed himself to be overzealous, excitable, crowd-pleasing -- and that excitability led him to make a pledge that he had no business making. It also made him look ineffectual. For years, the Cunningham administration proceeded cautiously on the Warehouse District issue, taking pains neither to inflame the landlord nor to satisfy the many demands of the creative community there. Many of us involved in the arts in Hudson County wanted Mr. Cunningham to move faster and to take a firmer stand against Lloyd Goldman. But Cunningham wasn't gung-ho about landmarking, and in retrospect, I have to believe his strategy was wiser than that Mr. Smith's, who strapped on the gloves in plain sight and attempted to punch above his weight. Smith made many of us happy when he declared war on New Gold -- he got our Irish up, he appealed to our belligerence, he got us marching and banging drums. Then he got knocked flat on his ass, and suddenly it wasn't so much fun anymore. 110 came down, artists were pushed out of 111 First Street, BLDG was allowed to vandalize the halls of the Arts Center and to treat its tenants cruelly. And when Mr. Goldman hired himself a little private army to harass visitors and attempt to ruin the Studio Tour, a cowed Harvey Smith -- who had pledged himself a relentless supporter of our community -- was nowhere to be found. Mayor Smith got the landmarking he wanted this week. It remains to be seen whether that translates into better conditions for artists or a developed warehouse district consisting of something other than untouchable and uninhabited old buildings. Nonetheless, this was a much-needed win for Smith. But it was a win he should have had a month ago -- at a City Council meeting in early September when he foolishly tabled the landmarking in an eleventh-hour effort to compromise with Lloyd Goldman. That night, Smith allowed himself to be hoodwinked by Goldman's team. To use a metaphor that Smith, an old basketball star, should understand, Mr. Cavanaugh and New Gold were attempting to stall by dribbling out the clock. That couldn't have been too difficult to deduce: hundreds of people in a packed City Council chamber knew exactly what was going on. Our mayor did not. He got maneuvered into a bad-faith negotiation, and one that wasted an entire month. In the gloom following the decision to table the landmarking, many supporters of the Powerhouse surmised that Smith was on the take -- that he'd been paid off by Goldman to kill the district. But subsequent events proved that the Acting Mayor was not on the take -- he went into his dinner meeting with Lloyd Goldman actually expecting to reach a reasoned compromise. He wasn't corrupted, he was unprepared. If Smith had spent the time educating himself about Mr. Goldman's prior acts, there's no way he would have taken Mr. Cavanaugh's bait. He would have been able to avoid this pitfall, and he would have looked like a hero in the process. But because he was unprepared, he was played like a chump. A corrupt politician is often shrewd enough to work angles for the benefit of his city. A politician who is behind the curve -- one relying on yesterday's news -- is no good to anybody. As Acting Mayor, Mr. Smith has combined unpreparedness with a scary willingness to shut down discourse. At two City Council meetings, he's taken items off the agenda, and refused to hear already-scheduled public speakers. His attempts to explain his own stances are often gruff, impatient, and incoherent. Nobody is really sure why he has decided to reverse his previously-held position on the lease of the Loew's Theatre. The Friends of the Loew's -- another group to whom Smith has pledged support many times -- deserves an explanation and apology. It is very possible that Smith's plan for the Loew's is one that will make everybody in town happy. It's also possible that he's going to hand the theatre over to a campaign contributor. We cannot know, because the Acting Mayor isn't telling. He needs to clarify his positions, and understand that a major policy reversal requires an accompanying detailed explanation. Unfortunately, Harvey Smith's public utterances are reliably uninspiring. His speeches are loaded with management-speak and vague, euphemistic language -- he is constantly "moving forward" and using the catch-all "situation" to stand in for any controversy -- and in public meetings he has shown himself short-tempered and intolerant of disagreement. Mr. Smith is a poor communicator. Behind the microphone, he often seems uncomfortable, irritable, expeditious to a fault. After watching him in public settings for three months, I now believe Mr. Smith is one of those people who has become accustomed to using body language in lieu of actual discourse. He is a very large man, and he has sometimes used his imposing physical stature to intimidate people who challenge him. That is a good strategy on the basketball court, but it isn't one you ever want to see in City Hall. It's not the face of Jersey City that I want to show to the rest of the nation. It is tempting to think that if given the authority that comes from a popular mandate, L. Harvey Smith would be able to stand behind his public utterances and make good on the many pledges he has made during this campaign. Tempting, yes, but also foolish. A popular mandate is not going to make Smith better prepared, or quicker on his feet, or more willing to entertain dissent gracefully. It's not going to prevent him from falling into the sort of snares that Lloyd Goldman set for him on September 8, or for picking battles that he's not willing to see through to their conclusions. It won't make him a better or clearer speaker, or a calmer hand on the tiller. After three months of rudderless governance, I've seen enough. L. Harvey Smith is over his head as mayor of Jersey City, and should not be elected on November 2. ***************** End Of Article ****************** fyi posted Message 7592 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 14:17:14 Subject: Re: Tris McCall report on L. Harvey Smith :Good reading:http://www.trismccall.net/jersey_city_journal_oct.htm#l_harv_smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 7593 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:19:20 Subject: He Won't get a White vote either! Probablly not a hispanic, indian, asian either!!! : He is a dirty slob who likes to intimidate women.He is a P U S S Y!! I hope I see him in the street at night. Maybe on the Hooker block!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mister posted Message 7594 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:22:24 Subject: When was the last time she was on a County payroll? Except when Tommy fired her. Get your facts straight. : She needs to learn what a paycheck is that isn't on the public teet! What do you mean "hopefully she will have a large role in whatever administration takes office in November"? : That's the problem with Jersey City and Hudson County...all the same people all the time doing nothing at all but collecting a paycheck. It's time to do away with her and others that bleed the taxpayers dry. : : Yes...Willie is a woman....and an extremely nice person. But its doubtful she will ever be Mayor of JC. Hopefully...she will have a large role in whatever administration takes office in November. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Elect Willie Flood!! posted Message 7595 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:27:02 Subject: Let'sbring the love back to City Hall!!!! That's how it was when Glenn was here. It was a big family. White , Black, Hispanics , everyone was getting along and liking work. Now it is chaos. I used to just come and sit in front I don't do that anymore. I might get arrested. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Quiet Supporter posted Message 7596 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:28:56 Subject: Re: It is my privilege and honor to support Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. I feel the same way!! Rock on Joey G.!!!!! Manzo can FUGHETABOUTIT!!! : In the spirit of my uncle, the late Freeholder Hank Gallo, I am supporting and endorsing Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. Willie Flood will lend to City Hall a women's touch in tidying up the corrupt system that has kept Jersey City down for the past several months. I would hope that Ms. Flood gets all the support from the Cunningham legacy constituency, and I pray that she does well in the election and achieves the status of the first African-American woman mayor of Jersey City. Willie Flood transcends all race, gender, socio-economic and racial boundaries. : A lifelong educator, friend of the seniors, and a dedicated Democrat, Willie Flood has the credentials to be an effective mayor of Jersey City. : It is my privilege and honor to support Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. : Best of luck to Willie Flood and her campaign staff, and remember, "After the storm comes the FLOOD." : JOSEPH J.GALLO JR : Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Were you even in Jersey City for the last 4 years? posted Message 7597 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:33:49 Subject: Re: Let'sbring the love back to City Hall!!!! I honestly cannot imagine where you were and who this Glenn was that you were with. While you were obviously elsewhere, Glenn Cunningham was at war with the majority of the City Council and there was never such strife in Jersey City! This city was in a state of chaos then and it's still in chaos. Bringing back any of the Cunningham faction will result in the absolute ruination of Jersey City. Everyone getting along and liking work my left foot! If I had a no show job, I would like work too! : That's how it was when Glenn was here. It was a big family. White , Black, Hispanics , everyone was getting along and liking work. Now it is chaos. I used to just come and sit in front I don't do that anymore. I might get arrested. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE LOVE MOVEMENT posted Message 7598 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:42:33 Subject: Re: Let'sbring the love back to City Hall!!!! THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECTED. I still love you though. Willie Flood For Mayor!!!! : I honestly cannot imagine where you were and who this Glenn was that you were with. : While you were obviously elsewhere, Glenn Cunningham was at war with the majority of the City Council and there was never such strife in Jersey City! This city was in a state of chaos then and it's still in chaos. : Bringing back any of the Cunningham faction will result in the absolute ruination of Jersey City. : Everyone getting along and liking work my left foot! If I had a no show job, I would like work too! : : That's how it was when Glenn was here. It was a big family. White , Black, Hispanics , everyone was getting along and liking work. Now it is chaos. I used to just come and sit in front I don't do that anymore. I might get arrested. ***************** End Of Article ****************** She has my vote!!! posted Message 7599 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:46:48 Subject: AMEN!!!!!! I remember. With the exception of a few council people there was LOVE there. No matter what they say. Everyone was happy except Menendez and his No1 flunkie Uncle Harvey. Go Willie!!! : That's how it was when Glenn was here. It was a big family. White , Black, Hispanics , everyone was getting along and liking work. Now it is chaos. I used to just come and sit in front I don't do that anymore. I might get arrested. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Comedian posted Message 7600 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:48:32 Subject: If he got cut TOMATO SAUCE would come out!! That's funny!!! : : In the mix of this great Jersey City Mayor's race (I like Al Pine!!hehehe) don't forget the Senate race! Don't let Fat Joe back in! ***************** End Of Article ****************** 29th Street posted Message 7601 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:50:25 Subject: Didn't he play " FAT BASTARD" in Austin Powers? They died his hair red. : That's funny!!! : : : : In the mix of this great Jersey City Mayor's race (I like Al Pine!!hehehe) don't forget the Senate race! Don't let Fat Joe back in! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Big Man posted Message 7602 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:53:47 Subject: I'm Not with that DRUNK MONKEY either!! Nudie punk!!! : Get all of that venom out of you system now. When Louis is Mayor come and see him, he will get you some help. : : : I really hate this man with a passion. He is a backstabber and everybody knows it. You will get yours frootie lou!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr Freud posted Message 7603 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:55:10 Subject: Fat Chance Ass-hole Still brest-feeding? You sound as though you have serious psychological issues. You need help. : : HOMO!!! : : When one has such a deep seated hatred for another due to his perceived deviation from the norm, it is a reflection of the hater's lack of self-image and ability to identify with those he would consider "normal". Thus he sees himself as a reflection of the one he professes to hate. : : In this case it seems the writer has not dealt with his own lack of sexual identity, and therefore must "hate" anyone who may provide a reflection of his "inner self". This theory is further bolstered by the writer's use of the word "passion" when describing his own feelings of hatred towards Mr. Manzo. As we all know, there is a very thin line between love and hate. In this case it is apparent that the writer has "feelings" for Mr. Manzo which he has yet to reconcile. : : : I really hate this man with a passion. He is a backstabber and everybody knows it. You will get yours frootie lou!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Quiet as kept! posted Message 7604 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:56:34 Subject: He did cut a deal. To run with Manzo in May. They meet all the time. Harvey and Manzo i mean Panzo are Butt Buddies. : : See Manzo is purposely breaking the law. He was so hard on the Cheif but he is breaking laws himself. Would someone please look into this matter? I know he got the letter. He should be fined. And he can't use his brother's dirty money to pay it off! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get Rid of Yer RV Steve! - Willie WINS! posted Message 7605 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 15:57:22 Subject: Willie Flood's PR Truck The BEST advertising award MUST go to Willie Flood, that truck, with the wrap around High-Def LCD screens, is a page out of the future! Way to go Willie!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hell yeah!!! posted Message 7606 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 16:01:52 Subject: I saw it at the Sand Bar Saturday!! Yes that is by far the best one I have seen yet. Rock on Willie!!! These other guys can FUGHETABOUTIT!!!!!! : The BEST advertising award MUST go to Willie Flood, that truck, with the wrap around High-Def LCD screens, is a page out of the future! Way to go Willie!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I don't buy it. posted Message 7607 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 16:07:25 Subject: It's brea st feeding you illiterate BASTARD!!! 1800 Hooked ON Phoenix. Dumb-ASS!! : Still brest-feeding? You sound as though you have serious psychological issues. You need help. : : : : HOMO!!! : : : When one has such a deep seated hatred for another due to his perceived deviation from the norm, it is a reflection of the hater's lack of self-image and ability to identify with those he would consider "normal". Thus he sees himself as a reflection of the one he professes to hate. : : : In this case it seems the writer has not dealt with his own lack of sexual identity, and therefore must "hate" anyone who may provide a reflection of his "inner self". This theory is further bolstered by the writer's use of the word "passion" when describing his own feelings of hatred towards Mr. Manzo. As we all know, there is a very thin line between love and hate. In this case it is apparent that the writer has "feelings" for Mr. Manzo which he has yet to reconcile. : : : : I really hate this man with a passion. He is a backstabber and everybody knows it. You will get yours frootie lou!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Awww...that's awfully sweet of you posted Message 7608 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 16:11:08 Subject: Re: Let'sbring the love back to City Hall!!!! I still love you too however if Willie Flood is even contemplating bringing back the "brain(dead) trust" then mine is a vote that she will never get. Don't you guys realize that this so-called brain trust is what ruined Jersey City and left a huge tarnish stain on Cunningham's legacy? If Flood is serious, she should "lance the boil" as it were and denounce Jackson, Cardwell, and Drayton. If she continues to have them in her corner, she'll be painted with the same brush that they are. : THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECTED. I still love you though. Willie Flood For Mayor!!!! : : : I honestly cannot imagine where you were and who this Glenn was that you were with. : : While you were obviously elsewhere, Glenn Cunningham was at war with the majority of the City Council and there was never such strife in Jersey City! This city was in a state of chaos then and it's still in chaos. : : Bringing back any of the Cunningham faction will result in the absolute ruination of Jersey City. : : Everyone getting along and liking work my left foot! If I had a no show job, I would like work too! : : : That's how it was when Glenn was here. It was a big family. White , Black, Hispanics , everyone was getting along and liking work. Now it is chaos. I used to just come and sit in front I don't do that anymore. I might get arrested. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Prince of Darkness posted Message 7609 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 16:40:43 Subject: Bull$hit !!! A big family with everyone getting along ? Give me a freaking break !!! Glenn's policies, coupled with the actions of his henchmen, divided the City as never before. This idea that everyone loved Glenn is a fairy tale. He was a racist leading a racist regime. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Are you an Arizona fan or something posted Message 7610 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 16:41:20 Subject: Re: It's brea st feeding you illiterate BASTARD!!! Hooked on Phoenix! ROFLMAO at you! Dumb-ass!! Woo woo...go Suns!!! LOL : 1800 Hooked ON Phoenix. Dumb-ASS!! : : Still brest-feeding? You sound as though you have serious psychological issues. You need help. : : : : : : HOMO!!! : : : : When one has such a deep seated hatred for another due to his perceived deviation from the norm, it is a reflection of the hater's lack of self-image and ability to identify with those he would consider "normal". Thus he sees himself as a reflection of the one he professes to hate. : : : : In this case it seems the writer has not dealt with his own lack of sexual identity, and therefore must "hate" anyone who may provide a reflection of his "inner self". This theory is further bolstered by the writer's use of the word "passion" when describing his own feelings of hatred towards Mr. Manzo. As we all know, there is a very thin line between love and hate. In this case it is apparent that the writer has "feelings" for Mr. Manzo which he has yet to reconcile. : : : : : I really hate this man with a passion. He is a backstabber and everybody knows it. You will get yours frootie lou!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amen! posted Message 7611 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 16:42:38 Subject: Re: Bull$hit !!! That's the truth! : A big family with everyone getting along ? Give me a freaking break !!! : Glenn's policies, coupled with the actions of his henchmen, divided the City as never before. : This idea that everyone loved Glenn is a fairy tale. He was a racist leading a racist regime. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Real Prince of Darkness posted Message 7612 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 16:45:13 Subject: Another imitator Guess I'll need a new moniker. ***************** End Of Article ****************** josaphina jimenez posted Message 7613 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 17:34:07 Subject: thomas lambert theres a nice youngman tommy lambert who lives in my neighborhood. i just moved from philadelphia into the neighborhood and he's been very helpful. we should have someone like him run for office. i think the people who use this message board should be pushing him for mayor in may '05 he'd straighten up this town and get rid of all these bums ***************** End Of Article ****************** al neuman posted Message 7614 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 17:37:52 Subject: Re: thomas lambert : theres a nice youngman tommy lambert who lives in my neighborhood. i just moved from philadelphia into the neighborhood and he's been very helpful. we should have someone like him run for office. i think the people who use this message board should be pushing him for mayor in may '05 he'd straighten up this town and get rid of all these bums ***************** End Of Article ****************** al hurt from the heights posted Message 7615 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 17:50:24 Subject: tommy lambert he's one of the greatest guys there is in jersey city. when my music scholl was begining to fail he set me up with some people at RCA studios. i'm proud to say that i do all the music for the Sopranos HBO series. god bless you tommy ***************** End Of Article ****************** cass elliott posted Message 7616 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 18:01:23 Subject: tom lambert recently i was bedridden due to my having surgery. tom came to visit me at the hospital. he also made sure that i recieved meals on wheels. god bless you tommy ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7617 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 18:02:19 Subject: KERRY FOR PRESIDENT Table on Bergen Avenue, Just South of Journal Square I was walking down Bergen Avenue just by the Post Office when I spotted a table with a KERRY FOR PRESIDENT sign. As it was so close to Congressman Menendez's office, my first thought was that this was an HCDO effort. I was sorta surprised, for there seemed to be a lot of books on display. When I got a closer, I saw that the sign also said LAROUCHE ENDORSES KERRY. I offered the two Larouche-ites GETNJ fliers. One declined. The other took one and said "Oh wow, Hudson County was the home of the Cubana Gusana!" I asked for an explanation of Cubana Gusana and got something back about it was the Bay of Pigs version of Chalabi. I inquired if they had set their table up just down the block from Congressman Menendez's office on purpose. They were aware of the location of the office. But, that didn't seem to be why the particular place was chosen. The Larouche-ites mentioned that they were beset by a number of crazy people. A group of Fundamentalist Christians had just been by trying to convince them that war in the Middle East was required to spark the Rapture. I told the Larouche representative that the downfall of every conman was falling for their own line. In this manner, conmen become lunatics. Here and there, a lunatic will reverse the process by learning to survive as a conman. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get eady For the FLOOD posted Message 7618 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 18:02:56 Subject: WIN WILLIE WIN !!!!!! : Yes that is by far the best one I have seen yet. Rock on Willie!!! These other guys can FUGHETABOUTIT!!!!!! : : The BEST advertising award MUST go to Willie Flood, that truck, with the wrap around High-Def LCD screens, is a page out of the future! Way to go Willie!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blow me posted Message 7619 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 18:04:59 Subject: Re: It's brea st feeding you illiterate BASTARD!!! oh it's BREA ST feeding.... gee...I'll have to remember that's how to get past Anthoy's censors...rather than brest feeding. I guess your dipsh-t approach is a better one. What a low life POS> : 1800 Hooked ON Phoenix. Dumb-ASS!! : : Still brest-feeding? You sound as though you have serious psychological issues. You need help. : : : : : : HOMO!!! : : : : When one has such a deep seated hatred for another due to his perceived deviation from the norm, it is a reflection of the hater's lack of self-image and ability to identify with those he would consider "normal". Thus he sees himself as a reflection of the one he professes to hate. : : : : In this case it seems the writer has not dealt with his own lack of sexual identity, and therefore must "hate" anyone who may provide a reflection of his "inner self". This theory is further bolstered by the writer's use of the word "passion" when describing his own feelings of hatred towards Mr. Manzo. As we all know, there is a very thin line between love and hate. In this case it is apparent that the writer has "feelings" for Mr. Manzo which he has yet to reconcile. : : : : : I really hate this man with a passion. He is a backstabber and everybody knows it. You will get yours frootie lou!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** al livingston posted Message 7620 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 18:08:05 Subject: tom lambert i agree with josaphina. i travel out of town often and on more than one occasion tom has generously watched my dog while i was away. i say run tommy run ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lets bring the FBI BACK WITH WILLY FLOOD posted Message 7621 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 18:30:26 Subject: Re: Let'sbring the love back to City Hall!!!! A BIG FAMILY??? What planet are you on? Gene Drayton, Bobby Jackson, Outlaw, et.al. discriminated against anyone they felt like. They hated hispanics - as soon as they used them and the election was over. The entire admin. of cunningham forgot every white and hispanic that helped them win. They didn't know how to lead so they mimicked their oppressers and treated people like garbage. Sandy was the queen bee of it all dictating orders like she was elected or something. She wasn't , just came with the package unfortunately. I'm actually one who believes that Glenn was a good guy, the garbage around him hurt him and is now hurting Flood and using her as a divider in her own community. Pathetic. The Cunningham Administration was chaos personified. You're probably just miffed because you were once part of that chaos and now you're not allowed near the place to mess it up further. : That's how it was when Glenn was here. It was a big family. White , Black, Hispanics , everyone was getting along and liking work. Now it is chaos. I used to just come and sit in front I don't do that anymore. I might get arrested. ***************** End Of Article ****************** yo mamma posted Message 7622 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 18:57:29 Subject: fecehead web commander grow up have alittle fun you don't need playboy books to have some fun do you ***************** End Of Article ****************** MATH WIZARD posted Message 7623 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 19:42:17 Subject: PREDICTION 18 TO 24 YEAR OLDS CALL THE SHOT SIMPLE MATH TAKE A LOOK AT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF 18 TO 24 YEAR OLDS WHO WERE REGISTERED TO VOTE IN 2000 IN CONTRAST TO THOSE WHO HAVE SINCE REGISTERED AND ARE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE THIS YEAR. LOOK IT UP THIS REPRESENT A 27% INCREASE IN TOTAL REGISTERED.AN EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE NUMBER IS THAT THE 18 TO 24 YEAR OLD AGE GROUP REPRESENTS 35% INCREASE OF ALL VOTERS WHO HAVE REGISTERED SINCE THE 2000 ELECTION. IF AND ALL EXPERTS EXPECT THAT THIS YEARS VOTER TURNOUT TO BE 4 TO 7% HIGHER THAN 2000 THIS AGE GROUP HAS THE VOTES TO PICK THE NEXT PRESIDENT. THOSE REGISTERED TO VOTE HAS INCREASED 27 % over the last 4 years. They represent 35% of all new registers since 2000. now if you believe in polls ENGLETON INSTITUTE FOR POLLING IN CONJUNCTION WITH UNIVERSITIES/ COLLEGES IN ALL 50 STATES HAVE RECENTLY CONDUCTED A PRESIDENTIAL POLL FOR THE AGE GROUPING OF 18-24 . A UNIFORMED QUESTION WAS ASKED . WHO DO YOU INTEND TO VOTE FOR PRESIDENT. RESULTS BUSH 37% UNDECIDED 6% KERRY 57% THATS IF YOU BELIEVE IN POLLS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dolan is Irrelevant posted Message 7624 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 20:10:03 Subject: Dolan is Pathetic Please ignore all listings by J Dolan. Although he supports Louis Manzo... he is a lunatic, loser and an as-hole. So please simply ignore his postings. Thank you. Sincerely, The Meadowview Staff. : : Finally, someone who cares about the City. We will bring the LOVE back to City Hall! : : : : : In the spirit of my uncle, the late Freeholder Hank Gallo, I am supporting and endorsing Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. Willie Flood will lend to City Hall a women's touch in tidying up the corrupt system that has kept Jersey City down for the past several months. I would hope that Ms. Flood gets all the support from the Cunningham legacy constituency, and I pray that she does well in the election and achieves the status of the first African-American woman mayor of Jersey City. Willie Flood transcends all race, gender, socio-economic and racial boundaries. : : : A lifelong educator, friend of the seniors, and a dedicated Democrat, Willie Flood has the credentials to be an effective mayor of Jersey City. : : : It is my privilege and honor to support Willie Flood for mayor of Jersey City. : : : Best of luck to Willie Flood and her campaign staff, and remember, "After the storm comes the FLOOD." : : : JOSEPH J.GALLO JR : : : Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rock8496 posted Message 7625 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 20:17:50 Subject: Re: Bull$hit !!! : That's the truth! : : A big family with everyone getting along ? Give me a freaking break !!! : : Glenn's policies, coupled with the actions of his henchmen, divided the City as never before. : : This idea that everyone loved Glenn is a fairy tale. He was a racist leading a racist regime. Amen whoever you are. I work for the City and have been through 8 mayors. The Cunningham regime was a disgrace, both intellectually and morally. His henchman, Gene Drayton, is the biggest racist known to man. And he's backing Willie Flood? More of that crap???? Please...not again ***************** End Of Article ****************** Total Recall posted Message 7626 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 20:35:01 Subject: Who is John Langan? Who is John Langan? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hari Kerry posted Message 7627 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 21:30:41 Subject: Selling The Kerry Flip Flops : I was walking down Bergen Avenue just by the Post Office when I spotted a table with a KERRY FOR PRESIDENT sign. As it was so close to Congressman Menendez's office, my first thought was that this was an HCDO effort. I was sorta surprised, for there seemed to be a lot of books on display. : When I got a closer, I saw that the sign also said LAROUCHE ENDORSES KERRY. : I offered the two Larouche-ites GETNJ fliers. One declined. The other took one and said "Oh wow, Hudson County was the home of the Cubana Gusana!" : I asked for an explanation of Cubana Gusana and got something back about it was the Bay of Pigs version of Chalabi. : I inquired if they had set their table up just down the block from Congressman Menendez's office on purpose. They were aware of the location of the office. But, that didn't seem to be why the particular place was chosen. : The Larouche-ites mentioned that they were beset by a number of crazy people. A group of Fundamentalist Christians had just been by trying to convince them that war in the Middle East was required to spark the Rapture. I told the Larouche representative that the downfall of every conman was falling for their own line. In this manner, conmen become lunatics. Here and there, a lunatic will reverse the process by learning to survive as a conman. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bergen Attorney posted Message 7628 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 21:33:29 Subject: Re: Who is John Langan? : Who is John Langan? The Attorney at Law? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pudding fudger posted Message 7629 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 21:38:04 Subject: Danny and Lou Yesterday Danny admit to people that Lou Manzo pays his mortgage and would be upset to see opponent signs around Danny's house.! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Title 19 posted Message 7630 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 21:56:17 Subject: Oh really Why would anyone advertsise on this trash site? You are probably giving the ads away just to fill space. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 7631 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 22:19:28 Subject: Manzo Mess I came home from work today .. and my whole block had been plastered with Manzo signs/stickers. What a mess. They were all over poles, trees .. it seemed every available surface had one plastered on. I haven't chosen a candidate for Mayor. But littering my neighborhood with unsightly and unwelcome signs isn't going to give me warm feelings about Mr. Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dubya Dolittle posted Message 7632 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 22:28:49 Subject: Hard Work ! It's gotta be hard work Anthony. Wandering the streets of Jersey City seeking truth, justice and the American Way. Hope you didn't get any mixed messages from the Larouche people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Barf Father posted Message 7633 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 23:39:07 Subject: Re: Healy Mess Signs have been a part of political campaigns forever. Once the election is over, their history. Maybe you could help the Healy campaign clean-up Jerry's mess? That seems to be more presssing. Go Lou Go Lou! : I came home from work today .. and my whole block had been plastered with Manzo signs/stickers. : What a mess. They were all over poles, trees .. it seemed every available surface had one plastered on. : I haven't chosen a candidate for Mayor. But littering my neighborhood with unsightly and unwelcome signs isn't going to give me warm feelings about Mr. Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nit Whit posted Message 7634 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 13, 2004 at 23:42:41 Subject: You Don't Like Gay People? : You one word response tells eveything about your limited writing skills as well as your bigoted ugly self. Why don;t you go to the Astor and have a few with like-minded people. : HOMO!!! : : When one has such a deep seated hatred for another due to his perceived deviation from the norm, it is a reflection of the hater's lack of self-image and ability to identify with those he would consider "normal". Thus he sees himself as a reflection of the one he professes to hate. : : In this case it seems the writer has not dealt with his own lack of sexual identity, and therefore must "hate" anyone who may provide a reflection of his "inner self". This theory is further bolstered by the writer's use of the word "passion" when describing his own feelings of hatred towards Mr. Manzo. As we all know, there is a very thin line between love and hate. In this case it is apparent that the writer has "feelings" for Mr. Manzo which he has yet to reconcile. : : : I really hate this man with a passion. He is a backstabber and everybody knows it. You will get yours frootie lou!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy is Toast posted Message 7635 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 00:20:21 Subject: It's Official jerry Healy after meeting with his advisors and family has decided to throw in the towel. Stand by for official press release from the Healy camp. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE LOVE MOVEMENT posted Message 7636 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 04:29:12 Subject: Say what u will we will bring the love back!!! We don't have time to sling mud!! We do what we do!! : That's how it was when Glenn was here. It was a big family. White , Black, Hispanics , everyone was getting along and liking work. Now it is chaos. I used to just come and sit in front I don't do that anymore. I might get arrested. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Almost there posted Message 7637 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 04:31:08 Subject: Don't get scared!!! Your bull$hit lines mean nothing. Even the devils get love. : : That's the truth! : : : A big family with everyone getting along ? Give me a freaking break !!! : : : Glenn's policies, coupled with the actions of his henchmen, divided the City as never before. : : : This idea that everyone loved Glenn is a fairy tale. He was a racist leading a racist regime. : : Amen whoever you are. I work for the City and have been through 8 mayors. The Cunningham regime was a disgrace, both intellectually and morally. His henchman, Gene Drayton, is the biggest racist known to man. And he's backing Willie Flood? More of that crap???? Please...not again ***************** End Of Article ****************** Whoooooooooo posted Message 7638 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 04:32:16 Subject: You sound upset!!!! Relax. Its over. : A big family with everyone getting along ? Give me a freaking break !!! : Glenn's policies, coupled with the actions of his henchmen, divided the City as never before. : This idea that everyone loved Glenn is a fairy tale. He was a racist leading a racist regime. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Straights against manzo. posted Message 7639 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 04:34:48 Subject: Hell NOOOOOOO!!! I love women. Homos go to hell. : : You one word response tells eveything about your limited writing skills as well as your bigoted ugly self. Why don;t you go to the Astor and have a few with like-minded people. : : : HOMO!!! : : : When one has such a deep seated hatred for another due to his perceived deviation from the norm, it is a reflection of the hater's lack of self-image and ability to identify with those he would consider "normal". Thus he sees himself as a reflection of the one he professes to hate. : : : In this case it seems the writer has not dealt with his own lack of sexual identity, and therefore must "hate" anyone who may provide a reflection of his "inner self". This theory is further bolstered by the writer's use of the word "passion" when describing his own feelings of hatred towards Mr. Manzo. As we all know, there is a very thin line between love and hate. In this case it is apparent that the writer has "feelings" for Mr. Manzo which he has yet to reconcile. : : : : I really hate this man with a passion. He is a backstabber and everybody knows it. You will get yours frootie lou!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I was there. posted Message 7640 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 04:36:46 Subject: Glenn loved all people. Right is right and wrong is wrong. We know the truth don't let these ass-holes get to you. : A BIG FAMILY??? What planet are you on? Gene Drayton, Bobby Jackson, Outlaw, et.al. discriminated against anyone they felt like. They hated hispanics - as soon as they used them and the election was over. The entire admin. of cunningham forgot every white and hispanic that helped them win. They didn't know how to lead so they mimicked their oppressers and treated people like garbage. Sandy was the queen bee of it all dictating orders like she was elected or something. She wasn't , just came with the package unfortunately. I'm actually one who believes that Glenn was a good guy, the garbage around him hurt him and is now hurting Flood and using her as a divider in her own community. Pathetic. : The Cunningham Administration was chaos personified. You're probably just miffed because you were once part of that chaos and now you're not allowed near the place to mess it up further. : : That's how it was when Glenn was here. It was a big family. White , Black, Hispanics , everyone was getting along and liking work. Now it is chaos. I used to just come and sit in front I don't do that anymore. I might get arrested. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm back posted Message 7641 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 04:38:03 Subject: You are the racist one. You don't like black people. That's why u sound so upset. : A BIG FAMILY??? What planet are you on? Gene Drayton, Bobby Jackson, Outlaw, et.al. discriminated against anyone they felt like. They hated hispanics - as soon as they used them and the election was over. The entire admin. of cunningham forgot every white and hispanic that helped them win. They didn't know how to lead so they mimicked their oppressers and treated people like garbage. Sandy was the queen bee of it all dictating orders like she was elected or something. She wasn't , just came with the package unfortunately. I'm actually one who believes that Glenn was a good guy, the garbage around him hurt him and is now hurting Flood and using her as a divider in her own community. Pathetic. : The Cunningham Administration was chaos personified. You're probably just miffed because you were once part of that chaos and now you're not allowed near the place to mess it up further. : : That's how it was when Glenn was here. It was a big family. White , Black, Hispanics , everyone was getting along and liking work. Now it is chaos. I used to just come and sit in front I don't do that anymore. I might get arrested. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Straights against manzo. posted Message 7642 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 04:41:34 Subject: Go have GAY sex devil boy!! Freak!!!! : A big family with everyone getting along ? Give me a freaking break !!! : Glenn's policies, coupled with the actions of his henchmen, divided the City as never before. : This idea that everyone loved Glenn is a fairy tale. He was a racist leading a racist regime. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know posted Message 7643 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 04:47:03 Subject: African Americans Stop letting Panzo exploit you!! I saw three black men wearing Panzo signs on their backs. They look so stupid. I laughed all the way home. How stupid can u be. Im white and I wouldn't vote for Panzo if he paid me. Wake up!! Manzo is racist. He will use you and spit u out. Watch who he gives positions to. The blacks will be custodians. Watch!! He is laughing at u!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Whoooooooooo posted Message 7644 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 04:50:04 Subject: And your point is? You don't have one. This is probablly dumb ass Uncle harvey! : I still love you too however if Willie Flood is even contemplating bringing back the "brain(dead) trust" then mine is a vote that she will never get. Don't you guys realize that this so-called brain trust is what ruined Jersey City and left a huge tarnish stain on Cunningham's legacy? : If Flood is serious, she should "lance the boil" as it were and denounce Jackson, Cardwell, and Drayton. If she continues to have them in her corner, she'll be painted with the same brush that they are. : : THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECTED. I still love you though. Willie Flood For Mayor!!!! : : : : : I honestly cannot imagine where you were and who this Glenn was that you were with. : : : While you were obviously elsewhere, Glenn Cunningham was at war with the majority of the City Council and there was never such strife in Jersey City! This city was in a state of chaos then and it's still in chaos. : : : Bringing back any of the Cunningham faction will result in the absolute ruination of Jersey City. : : : Everyone getting along and liking work my left foot! If I had a no show job, I would like work too! : : : : That's how it was when Glenn was here. It was a big family. White , Black, Hispanics , everyone was getting along and liking work. Now it is chaos. I used to just come and sit in front I don't do that anymore. I might get arrested. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Never Scared posted Message 7645 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 04:51:25 Subject: HARVEY SMITH IS AN UNCLE TOM He cut a deal with PANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don't Let Manzo in!!! posted Message 7646 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 04:58:25 Subject: Jersey City Is NOT a business opportunity!! We know why he wants to be mayor!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7647 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 05:13:35 Subject: Healy, Don't Throw in the Towel! Hold on to that towel! You know what happened the last time you let your grip slip. . . : jerry Healy after meeting with his advisors and family has decided to throw in the towel. Stand by for official press release from the Healy camp. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7648 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 05:19:21 Subject: STRONG LIKE BULL! It's a tough job, but somebody has to do it! I forgot to ask them if Kerry agrees with Larouche that the Queen of England is the leader of a global criminal conspiracy. : It's gotta be hard work Anthony. Wandering the streets of Jersey City seeking truth, justice and the American Way. : Hope you didn't get any mixed messages from the Larouche people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Resident posted Message 7649 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 05:24:26 Subject: That truck is awesome!!!! Really classy!!! Go Willie!! : The BEST advertising award MUST go to Willie Flood, that truck, with the wrap around High-Def LCD screens, is a page out of the future! Way to go Willie!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou Manzo posted Message 7650 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 05:30:29 Subject: When I become Mayor I will give my family all the contracts and fire anyone who was against me!!! That's what I do. I am a homo scum bag who exploits people against their will. Screw the law. You see I got Ronnie out. Me and Harvey cut a deal to let me break the law even more by putting my signs on poles. Thanx Uncle Harvey for betraying your people!! Without you I would have no blacks on my side. Thanx for sending them over. Oh yeah. That job offer still stands. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou Manzo posted Message 7651 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 05:34:48 Subject: Oh yeah the blacks and hispanics get custodian jobs. If that. That's all they are good for anyway!! I'll tell Gerry to make sure. : That's what I do. I am a homo scum bag who exploits people against their will. Screw the law. You see I got Ronnie out. Me and Harvey cut a deal to let me break the law even more by putting my signs on poles. Thanx Uncle Harvey for betraying your people!! Without you I would have no blacks on my side. Thanx for sending them over. Oh yeah. That job offer still stands. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Straights against manzo. posted Message 7652 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 05:37:49 Subject: See I knew you were a FAG!!! Gay ass!! : oh it's BREA ST feeding.... gee...I'll have to remember that's how to get past Anthoy's censors...rather than brest feeding. I guess your dipsh-t approach is a better one. What a low life POS> : : 1800 Hooked ON Phoenix. Dumb-ASS!! : : : : Still brest-feeding? You sound as though you have serious psychological issues. You need help. : : : : : : : : HOMO!!! : : : : : When one has such a deep seated hatred for another due to his perceived deviation from the norm, it is a reflection of the hater's lack of self-image and ability to identify with those he would consider "normal". Thus he sees himself as a reflection of the one he professes to hate. : : : : : In this case it seems the writer has not dealt with his own lack of sexual identity, and therefore must "hate" anyone who may provide a reflection of his "inner self". This theory is further bolstered by the writer's use of the word "passion" when describing his own feelings of hatred towards Mr. Manzo. As we all know, there is a very thin line between love and hate. In this case it is apparent that the writer has "feelings" for Mr. Manzo which he has yet to reconcile. : : : : : : I really hate this man with a passion. He is a backstabber and everybody knows it. You will get yours frootie lou!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The streets. posted Message 7653 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 05:40:30 Subject: Ask Uncle Harvey How his scum bag son got out of Jail?And why his accomplice is still locked up? I heard when he gets out Kip better run and hide!! : He cut a deal with PANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know posted Message 7654 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 06:06:46 Subject: MURDERER!!!!! I know what u did. Drop out or I will spill the beans. : I heard when he gets out Kip better run and hide!! : : : He cut a deal with PANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** We Know!! posted Message 7655 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 06:08:20 Subject: If you want a mayor who condones this kind of $hit vote for Uncle Harvey!! : I know what u did. Drop out or I will spill the beans. : : I heard when he gets out Kip better run and hide!! : : : : : He cut a deal with PANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know nutin' posted Message 7656 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 06:30:10 Subject: Re: African Americans Stop letting Smith exploit you!! : I saw three black men handing out Smith "bro"chures. They look so stupid. I laughed all the way home. How stupid can u be. Im black and I wouldn't vote for Smith if he paid me. Wake up!! Smith is racist. He will use you and spit u out. Watch who he gives positions to. His family and freinds. Watch!! He is laughing at u!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy posted Message 7657 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 06:32:30 Subject: Re: HARVEY SMITH IS AN UNCLE TOM :::He cut a deal with Healy weeks ago. : He cut a deal with PANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry *HIC* Healy posted Message 7658 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 06:40:50 Subject: Re: When I become Mayor I will give my family all the contracts and fire anyone who was against me!!! : That's what I do. I am a drunken sick guy with no backbone no will. Screw the law. You see I got Tom, Bill, Jimmy and Buddy to do my thinking. Me and Harvey cut a deal to let him get back his county job so he can continue to feed at the public trough even though I know he is a racist. Thanx Uncle Harvey for betraying your people!! With you I will have no blacks on my side. Thanx for sending them over to Manzo. But what do I care. The rest of my group don't like blacks either we just keep you around cause we need someone to make jokes about. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry *HIC* Healy posted Message 7659 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 06:42:29 Subject: Re: Oh yeah maybe the blacks and hispanics can get custodian jobs. If that. : That's all they are good for anyway!! I'll tell Tom, Bill, Jimmy and Buddy to make sure. : : : That's what I do. I am a homo scum bag who exploits people against their will. Screw the law. You see I got Ronnie out. Me and Harvey cut a deal to let me break the law even more by putting my signs on poles. Thanx Uncle Harvey for betraying your people!! Without you I would have no blacks on my side. Thanx for sending them over. Oh yeah. That job offer still stands. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Exactly posted Message 7660 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 06:43:27 Subject: Both these A$$HOLES are exploiting Blacks Don't u see!!! : : I saw three black men handing out Smith "bro"chures. They look so stupid. I laughed all the way home. How stupid can u be. Im black and I wouldn't vote for Smith if he paid me. Wake up!! Smith is racist. He will use you and spit u out. Watch who he gives positions to. His family and freinds. Watch!! He is laughing at u!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Antagonist posted Message 7661 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 06:49:23 Subject: Don't Be Mad The Truth is Out Louie You will never win. And that assembly seat is as good as gone!!! Beat it!! : That's what I do. I am a homo scum bag who exploits people against their will. Screw the law. You see I got Ronnie out. Me and Harvey cut a deal to let me break the law even more by putting my signs on poles. Thanx Uncle Harvey for betraying your people!! Without you I would have no blacks on my side. Thanx for sending them over. Oh yeah. That job offer still stands. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou Manzo posted Message 7662 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 06:58:30 Subject: I had to stab Glenn in the back. I wanted to be Mayor. I'm glad he died now I can run for mayor!! So what I was already planning this before he died. So what his body wasn't in the ground yet before I started shaking hands. I am a true scum bag, degenerate , homo, politician. Screw the people of Jersey City. This is Manzo City!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** We Know!! posted Message 7663 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:00:32 Subject: Gasp!!!!!! Whoa!!! You can't make this stuff up!!! : So what I was already planning this before he died. So what his body wasn't in the ground yet before I started shaking hands. I am a true scum bag, degenerate , homo, politician. Screw the people of Jersey City. This is Manzo City!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here posted Message 7664 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:03:27 Subject: What's up Anthony. Did Lou call and threaten you? He wrote that stuff!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Louie Panzo posted Message 7665 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:07:50 Subject: I had to stab Glenn in the back. I wanted to be Mayor. I'm glad he died, now I can run for mayor!! So what I planned this when he was alive. I never liked him anyway. So what I started shaking hands before he was even in the ground good. This is MY City!!!! Screw the people!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7666 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:07:52 Subject: Re: What's up Anthony. Did Lou call and threaten you? DO NOT POST USING THE NAME OF A REAL PERSON THAT IS NOT YOURSELF!!! If you are attempting sarcasm, use a nickname or something similar! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apologetic. posted Message 7667 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:11:05 Subject: Sorry, Tony no disrespect! : DO NOT POST USING THE NAME OF A REAL PERSON THAT IS NOT YOURSELF!!! : If you are attempting sarcasm, use a nickname or something similar! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Porky Pig Demise posted Message 7668 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:12:15 Subject: Menendez has settle in on Manzo for mayor of JC The Xanadu kid sees a very profitable relationship about to begin in jersey City.Good bye Mr DeGise And MrGaughan .I cant say that it was fun. You know that power And Money come first with me.Vote Kerry and Porky Pig Menendez for more of the same.Sock it to Jersy city is our Motto. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watchin the Ass-holes posted Message 7669 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:12:59 Subject: You're a sick F-ck YOU MAKE ME ILL. : So what I planned this when he was alive. I never liked him anyway. So what I started shaking hands before he was even in the ground good. This is MY City!!!! Screw the people!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watchin the Ass-holes posted Message 7669 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:13:02 Subject: You're a sick F-ck YOU MAKE ME ILL. : So what I planned this when he was alive. I never liked him anyway. So what I started shaking hands before he was even in the ground good. This is MY City!!!! Screw the people!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watchin the Ass-holes posted Message 7669 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:13:03 Subject: You're a sick F-ck YOU MAKE ME ILL. : So what I planned this when he was alive. I never liked him anyway. So what I started shaking hands before he was even in the ground good. This is MY City!!!! Screw the people!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** .......... posted Message 7670 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:14:26 Subject: They killed that Jamacian man in NY right? Tried to rob him in a drug deal right? Black on black crimes!! You are finished Harvey!!! : I know what u did. Drop out or I will spill the beans. : : I heard when he gets out Kip better run and hide!! : : : : : He cut a deal with PANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Doctor posted Message 7671 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:14:35 Subject: Can't Sleep at 4:50 am? Concience bothering you? : We know why he wants to be mayor!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mind reader. posted Message 7672 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:17:35 Subject: The truth hurts to your stomach huh? Your actions said all this. : YOU MAKE ME ILL. : : So what I planned this when he was alive. I never liked him anyway. So what I started shaking hands before he was even in the ground good. This is MY City!!!! Screw the people!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Antagonist posted Message 7673 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:19:15 Subject: And they rode around with him in the trunk!!!! : Black on black crimes!! You are finished Harvey!!! : : : I know what u did. Drop out or I will spill the beans. : : : : I heard when he gets out Kip better run and hide!! : : : : : : : He cut a deal with PANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Antagonist posted Message 7674 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:21:11 Subject: No. I just want the people to know the truth!!!! : : We know why he wants to be mayor!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Grow up People posted Message 7675 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:23:01 Subject: Desperation breeds contemptuous Dialog Its amazing how the more apparent Manzo's vistory becomes, the more disgusting the rhetoric from his opponents. Don't think for a minute that those of us who are still undecided voters don't read these posts to see what kind of people are supporting each candidate. WE DO! And based upon the low-brow tactis of each camp's attacks on the other, you lose voter's trust and respect. At this point it has become a matter of voting for the lesser of two evils. And it seems the more "evil" attacks are coming from Manzo's opposition. : Your actions said all this. : : : YOU MAKE ME ILL. : : : So what I planned this when he was alive. I never liked him anyway. So what I started shaking hands before he was even in the ground good. This is MY City!!!! Screw the people!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glenns Wish posted Message 7676 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:24:02 Subject: A Vote for Menendez -Is a vote against Me Dont turn your back on Mayor Cunningham. He deserves better.Menendez And Xanadu must be beaten back. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mayor Man's fans posted Message 7677 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:27:41 Subject: We will NEVER forget!!! : Dont turn your back on Mayor Cunningham. He deserves better.Menendez And Xanadu must be beaten back. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Antagonist posted Message 7678 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:29:32 Subject: Reverse Psychology will get you nowhere!!! We aren't stupid. Blah blah blah!!!!! : Its amazing how the more apparent Manzo's vistory becomes, the more disgusting the rhetoric from his opponents. Don't think for a minute that those of us who are still undecided voters don't read these posts to see what kind of people are supporting each candidate. WE DO! And based upon the low-brow tactis of each camp's attacks on the other, you lose voter's trust and respect. At this point it has become a matter of voting for the lesser of two evils. And it seems the more "evil" attacks are coming from Manzo's opposition. : : Your actions said all this. : : : : : YOU MAKE ME ILL. : : : : So what I planned this when he was alive. I never liked him anyway. So what I started shaking hands before he was even in the ground good. This is MY City!!!! Screw the people!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LooneyLou posted Message 7679 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:29:34 Subject: Re: Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! Jerry is lucky that McCann took the pictures, imagine what could have happened if Manzo was around? Don't get jealous Danny boy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Doctor posted Message 7680 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:34:53 Subject: Actually...its amazing how Stupid you prove to be The level of intelligence we are dealing with-->>> Blah blah blah!!!!! : : : Its amazing how the more apparent Manzo's vistory becomes, the more disgusting the rhetoric from his opponents. Don't think for a minute that those of us who are still undecided voters don't read these posts to see what kind of people are supporting each candidate. WE DO! And based upon the low-brow tactis of each camp's attacks on the other, you lose voter's trust and respect. At this point it has become a matter of voting for the lesser of two evils. And it seems the more "evil" attacks are coming from Manzo's opposition. : : : Your actions said all this. : : : : : : : YOU MAKE ME ILL. : : : : : So what I planned this when he was alive. I never liked him anyway. So what I started shaking hands before he was even in the ground good. This is MY City!!!! Screw the people!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Doctor posted Message 7681 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:35:18 Subject: Actually...its amazing how Stupid you prove to be The level of intelligence we are dealing with-->>> Blah blah blah!!!!! : : : Its amazing how the more apparent Manzo's vistory becomes, the more disgusting the rhetoric from his opponents. Don't think for a minute that those of us who are still undecided voters don't read these posts to see what kind of people are supporting each candidate. WE DO! And based upon the low-brow tactis of each camp's attacks on the other, you lose voter's trust and respect. At this point it has become a matter of voting for the lesser of two evils. And it seems the more "evil" attacks are coming from Manzo's opposition. : : : Your actions said all this. : : : : : : : YOU MAKE ME ILL. : : : : : So what I planned this when he was alive. I never liked him anyway. So what I started shaking hands before he was even in the ground good. This is MY City!!!! Screw the people!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Antagonist posted Message 7682 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:39:48 Subject: Come on Gerry. We know it's u : The level of intelligence we are dealing with-->>> Blah blah blah!!!!! : : : : : Its amazing how the more apparent Manzo's vistory becomes, the more disgusting the rhetoric from his opponents. Don't think for a minute that those of us who are still undecided voters don't read these posts to see what kind of people are supporting each candidate. WE DO! And based upon the low-brow tactis of each camp's attacks on the other, you lose voter's trust and respect. At this point it has become a matter of voting for the lesser of two evils. And it seems the more "evil" attacks are coming from Manzo's opposition. : : : : Your actions said all this. : : : : : : : : : YOU MAKE ME ILL. : : : : : : So what I planned this when he was alive. I never liked him anyway. So what I started shaking hands before he was even in the ground good. This is MY City!!!! Screw the people!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Telling it Like is posted Message 7683 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:41:30 Subject: I Can't Lie Any Longer It's true, I love Danny and right now he is staying out of sight at my condo down at the shore. I do miss him alot and can't wait for this election to be over. Danny, I Love you!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo is a Loser posted Message 7684 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:44:26 Subject: Re: Healy Mess : Signs have been a part of political campaigns forever. Once the election is over, their history. Maybe you could help the Healy campaign clean-up Jerry's mess? That seems to be more presssing. : Go Lou Go Lou! : : I came home from work today .. and my whole block had been plastered with Manzo signs/stickers. : : What a mess. They were all over poles, trees .. it seemed every available surface had one plastered on. : : I haven't chosen a candidate for Mayor. But littering my neighborhood with unsightly and unwelcome signs isn't going to give me warm feelings about Mr. Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good Try but WRONG posted Message 7685 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:45:11 Subject: Gerry doesn't get up this early Trust me...McCann isn't the only one who thinks as we do. But he may be the one who speaks the loudest. : : The level of intelligence we are dealing with-->>> Blah blah blah!!!!! : : : : : : : Its amazing how the more apparent Manzo's vistory becomes, the more disgusting the rhetoric from his opponents. Don't think for a minute that those of us who are still undecided voters don't read these posts to see what kind of people are supporting each candidate. WE DO! And based upon the low-brow tactis of each camp's attacks on the other, you lose voter's trust and respect. At this point it has become a matter of voting for the lesser of two evils. And it seems the more "evil" attacks are coming from Manzo's opposition. : : : : : Your actions said all this. : : : : : : : : : : : YOU MAKE ME ILL. : : : : : : : So what I planned this when he was alive. I never liked him anyway. So what I started shaking hands before he was even in the ground good. This is MY City!!!! Screw the people!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Eye Doctor` posted Message 7686 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:46:41 Subject: Anthony....I'm seeing DOUBLE... Why the duplicate posts? Is what I'm writing that astounding? ***************** End Of Article ****************** me... posted Message 7687 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:49:06 Subject: The Truth? You can't handle the truth!!!... : : : We know why he wants to be mayor!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Refreshing posted Message 7688 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 07:50:06 Subject: New Poll Results 10/14/04 Manzo losing steam, Healy gaining, Harvey staying strong. Just two weeks ago Manzo had a six point edge. It now has been cut down to 1.5. Manzo has always been known to peak to earlier, looks like he has done it again. Manzo 19.5 Harvey 18.5 Healy 18.0 Poll taking by Penn & Company. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I will drink to that posted Message 7689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 08:02:37 Subject: Why did Menendez trun his back on Healy? A picture is worth a thousand words.DeGise and Gaughan didnt know that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I will drink to that posted Message 7689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 08:02:44 Subject: Why did Menendez trun his back on Healy? A picture is worth a thousand words.DeGise and Gaughan didnt know that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 7689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 08:25:06 Subject: SANDRA CUNNINGHAM ENDORSES FLOOD FOR MAYOR SANDRA CUNNINGHAM ENDORSES FLOOD FOR MAYOR Urban Times News October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 by Arnold Stovell The course of events for the special elections to be held on November 2nd may have been altered with the recent endorsement of Cunningham widow Sandra Bolden-Cunningham confidently being given to candidate Willie Flood. At a press conference held at Reform Democratic Headquarters on Thursday, Mrs. Cunningham extended kind words and support to Ms. Flood whom she described as "a good friend and mentor." "Glenn was a man of compassion, generosity, and kindness who truly loved Jersey City. I feel those are essential qualities to being a good mayor and anyone who knows Willie Flood, knows that she embodies these qualities. Glenn wanted to make sure that all parts of Jersey City prospered. He was very focused on making all those parts of the city grow that other administrations had ignored. He wanted every part of Jersey City to grow as the waterfront grew. I know that Willie will make sure that all of Jersey City's neighborhoods will be golden neighborhoods." In her speech, Mrs. Cunningham explained her earlier support of Ron Buonocore. The perhaps former Chief of Police was a friend to Mayor Cunningham who announced his candidacy before Mrs. Flood. Mr. Buonocore officially a resident of Jersey City. "I supported Ron Buonocore because I felt he had the skills to run Jersey City. However I am pleased to see several of his friends and allies stepping up to continue his work." Ms. Cunningham mentioned by name the candidates on the Reform Democratic ticket and former Cunningham officials still maintaining their positions. As well Ms. Cunningham had kind words for Councilman Lipski whom she also described as an ally of the late mayor "who he would be proud of." "But this is a day we are here to honor Willie Flood. I am proud to have known her for a long time. She's been a wonderful supporter of Glenn. She's been a wonderful friend and mentor to me. She's been a wonderful community leader, and I honestly believe she will do an excellent job as the next mayor of Jersey City. I knew Willie Flood was the candidate that I had to support." Mrs. Cunningham also stated that she hoped others would join in supporting Flood but added that everyone has a right to their own decision. Ms. Flood graciously acknowledged Ms. Cunningham's announcement, "To all of you who have stuck with me through all the bad times, today is a very good time. Sandy Cunningham has made my heart glad, and I am sure she has made many of you glad also. Let's hear it for her. I am very proud and honored because Sandy is family and Sandy is a friend. I have always said and maintained that." Ms. Flood led the crowd in rousing applause for the first lady of the city as they tearfully embraced amidst the crowd. Other Reform Democratic Organization candidates took pictures and congratulated Mrs. Flood while reuniting with Mrs. Cunningham. Jeff Dublin, candidate for Freeholder, Kabili Tayari, candidate for State Senator, and Willie Flood candidate for mayor, took pictures and conferred as reporters grabbed moments for interviews. Away from the microphones, Mrs. Flood would discuss what this means to her. "This is a great day for the campaign. It's a great day for all of us. It brings us more of the energy that we experience as a family, all of Jersey City can come together and make this work for us all." Mrs. Flood also maintained this position touching on the debate the night before, and the issues raised by the Jersey City Lesbian and Gay Organization. "I think that if whatever their lifestyle that is fine with me. We shouldn't be in people's business or get into that. They are citizens like us and they have issues that are the exact same as everyone else in Jersey City. I am going to work hard and work with them for their families and their children just like everybody else. We love Sandy very much and she's been through a lot and we hope she wilt help when she can but I don't want to put any more pressure on her." Ms. Cunningham spoke fondly of Ms. Flood as well, summing up some of the things that make her so sure of her endorsement. "Willie genuinely cares about the people of Jersey City. She worked with Glenn closely. It is important that we get someone in office who is linked to the people of Jersey City and not just to themselves or their friends, someone who can bring the various factions together. She helped Glenn get things done. She will work to bring golden neighborhoods. She understands the necessity for moving the city forward. She's committed to the city. She has worked for the city, and she definitely lives in the city." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 7689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 08:28:27 Subject: SANDRA CUNNINGHAM ENDORSES FLOOD FOR MAYOR SANDRA CUNNINGHAM ENDORSES FLOOD FOR MAYOR Urban Times News October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 by Arnold Stovell The course of events for the special elections to be held on November 2nd may have been altered with the recent endorsement of Cunningham widow Sandra Bolden-Cunningham confidently being given to candidate Willie Flood. At a press conference held at Reform Democratic Headquarters on Thursday, Mrs. Cunningham extended kind words and support to Ms. Flood whom she described as "a good friend and mentor." "Glenn was a man of compassion, generosity, and kindness who truly loved Jersey City. I feel those are essential qualities to being a good mayor and anyone who knows Willie Flood, knows that she embodies these qualities. Glenn wanted to make sure that all parts of Jersey City prospered. He was very focused on making all those parts of the city grow that other administrations had ignored. He wanted every part of Jersey City to grow as the waterfront grew. I know that Willie will make sure that all of Jersey City's neighborhoods will be golden neighborhoods." In her speech, Mrs. Cunningham explained her earlier support of Ron Buonocore. The perhaps former Chief of Police was a friend to Mayor Cunningham who announced his candidacy before Mrs. Flood. Mr. Buonocore officially a resident of Jersey City. "I supported Ron Buonocore because I felt he had the skills to run Jersey City. However I am pleased to see several of his friends and allies stepping up to continue his work." Ms. Cunningham mentioned by name the candidates on the Reform Democratic ticket and former Cunningham officials still maintaining their positions. As well Ms. Cunningham had kind words for Councilman Lipski whom she also described as an ally of the late mayor "who he would be proud of." "But this is a day we are here to honor Willie Flood. I am proud to have known her for a long time. She's been a wonderful supporter of Glenn. She's been a wonderful friend and mentor to me. She's been a wonderful community leader, and I honestly believe she will do an excellent job as the next mayor of Jersey City. I knew Willie Flood was the candidate that I had to support." Mrs. Cunningham also stated that she hoped others would join in supporting Flood but added that everyone has a right to their own decision. Ms. Flood graciously acknowledged Ms. Cunningham's announcement, "To all of you who have stuck with me through all the bad times, today is a very good time. Sandy Cunningham has made my heart glad, and I am sure she has made many of you glad also. Let's hear it for her. I am very proud and honored because Sandy is family and Sandy is a friend. I have always said and maintained that." Ms. Flood led the crowd in rousing applause for the first lady of the city as they tearfully embraced amidst the crowd. Other Reform Democratic Organization candidates took pictures and congratulated Mrs. Flood while reuniting with Mrs. Cunningham. Jeff Dublin, candidate for Freeholder, Kabili Tayari, candidate for State Senator, and Willie Flood candidate for mayor, took pictures and conferred as reporters grabbed moments for interviews. Away from the microphones, Mrs. Flood would discuss what this means to her. "This is a great day for the campaign. It's a great day for all of us. It brings us more of the energy that we experience as a family, all of Jersey City can come together and make this work for us all." Mrs. Flood also maintained this position touching on the debate the night before, and the issues raised by the Jersey City Lesbian and Gay Organization. "I think that if whatever their lifestyle that is fine with me. We shouldn't be in people's business or get into that. They are citizens like us and they have issues that are the exact same as everyone else in Jersey City. I am going to work hard and work with them for their families and their children just like everybody else. We love Sandy very much and she's been through a lot and we hope she wilt help when she can but I don't want to put any more pressure on her." Ms. Cunningham spoke fondly of Ms. Flood as well, summing up some of the things that make her so sure of her endorsement. "Willie genuinely cares about the people of Jersey City. She worked with Glenn closely. It is important that we get someone in office who is linked to the people of Jersey City and not just to themselves or their friends, someone who can bring the various factions together. She helped Glenn get things done. She will work to bring golden neighborhoods. She understands the necessity for moving the city forward. She's committed to the city. She has worked for the city, and she definitely lives in the city." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just the Facts posted Message 7689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 08:30:21 Subject: Tom Gaynor still thinks Tom D eGise is for honest Government Its the system that is broken.If only Gaynor didnt move to Avon.Mayor Gaynor sounds good to me.Jersey City would then be on its its way back to respectabilty.He would not let the system get in his way.Only the "best of the best"would survive in his good and honest government platform ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 08:40:59 Subject: test test ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 08:47:01 Subject: test test ***************** End Of Article ****************** I will drink to that posted Message 7690 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 08:52:10 Subject: Why did Menendez trun his back on Healy? A picture is worth a thousand words.DeGise and Gaughan didnt know that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 7691 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 08:53:23 Subject: SANDRA CUNNINGHAM ENDORSES FLOOD FOR MAYOR SANDRA CUNNINGHAM ENDORSES FLOOD FOR MAYOR Urban Times News October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 by Arnold Stovell The course of events for the special elections to be held on November 2nd may have been altered with the recent endorsement of Cunningham widow Sandra Bolden-Cunningham confidently being given to candidate Willie Flood. At a press conference held at Reform Democratic Headquarters on Thursday, Mrs. Cunningham extended kind words and support to Ms. Flood whom she described as "a good friend and mentor." "Glenn was a man of compassion, generosity, and kindness who truly loved Jersey City. I feel those are essential qualities to being a good mayor and anyone who knows Willie Flood, knows that she embodies these qualities. Glenn wanted to make sure that all parts of Jersey City prospered. He was very focused on making all those parts of the city grow that other administrations had ignored. He wanted every part of Jersey City to grow as the waterfront grew. I know that Willie will make sure that all of Jersey City's neighborhoods will be golden neighborhoods." In her speech, Mrs. Cunningham explained her earlier support of Ron Buonocore. The perhaps former Chief of Police was a friend to Mayor Cunningham who announced his candidacy before Mrs. Flood. Mr. Buonocore officially a resident of Jersey City. "I supported Ron Buonocore because I felt he had the skills to run Jersey City. However I am pleased to see several of his friends and allies stepping up to continue his work." Ms. Cunningham mentioned by name the candidates on the Reform Democratic ticket and former Cunningham officials still maintaining their positions. As well Ms. Cunningham had kind words for Councilman Lipski whom she also described as an ally of the late mayor "who he would be proud of." "But this is a day we are here to honor Willie Flood. I am proud to have known her for a long time. She's been a wonderful supporter of Glenn. She's been a wonderful friend and mentor to me. She's been a wonderful community leader, and I honestly believe she will do an excellent job as the next mayor of Jersey City. I knew Willie Flood was the candidate that I had to support." Mrs. Cunningham also stated that she hoped others would join in supporting Flood but added that everyone has a right to their own decision. Ms. Flood graciously acknowledged Ms. Cunningham's announcement, "To all of you who have stuck with me through all the bad times, today is a very good time. Sandy Cunningham has made my heart glad, and I am sure she has made many of you glad also. Let's hear it for her. I am very proud and honored because Sandy is family and Sandy is a friend. I have always said and maintained that." Ms. Flood led the crowd in rousing applause for the first lady of the city as they tearfully embraced amidst the crowd. Other Reform Democratic Organization candidates took pictures and congratulated Mrs. Flood while reuniting with Mrs. Cunningham. Jeff Dublin, candidate for Freeholder, Kabili Tayari, candidate for State Senator, and Willie Flood candidate for mayor, took pictures and conferred as reporters grabbed moments for interviews. Away from the microphones, Mrs. Flood would discuss what this means to her. "This is a great day for the campaign. It's a great day for all of us. It brings us more of the energy that we experience as a family, all of Jersey City can come together and make this work for us all." Mrs. Flood also maintained this position touching on the debate the night before, and the issues raised by the Jersey City Lesbian and Gay Organization. "I think that if whatever their lifestyle that is fine with me. We shouldn't be in people's business or get into that. They are citizens like us and they have issues that are the exact same as everyone else in Jersey City. I am going to work hard and work with them for their families and their children just like everybody else. We love Sandy very much and she's been through a lot and we hope she wilt help when she can but I don't want to put any more pressure on her." Ms. Cunningham spoke fondly of Ms. Flood as well, summing up some of the things that make her so sure of her endorsement. "Willie genuinely cares about the people of Jersey City. She worked with Glenn closely. It is important that we get someone in office who is linked to the people of Jersey City and not just to themselves or their friends, someone who can bring the various factions together. She helped Glenn get things done. She will work to bring golden neighborhoods. She understands the necessity for moving the city forward. She's committed to the city. She has worked for the city, and she definitely lives in the city." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just the Facts posted Message 7692 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 08:56:36 Subject: Tom Gaynor still thinks Tom DeGise is for honest Government It's the system that is broken. If only Gaynor didnt move to Avon. Mayor Gaynor sounds good to me. Jersey City would then be on its its way back to respectabilty. He would not let the system get in his way. Only the "best of the best" would survive in his good and honest government platform ***************** End Of Article ****************** Refreshingly posted Message 7693 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 09:22:17 Subject: Re: New Poll Results 10/14/04 : Manzo losing steam, Healy gaining, Harvey staying strong. : Just two weeks ago Manzo had a six point edge. It now has been cut down to 1.5. Manzo has always been known to peak to earlier, somewhat like my head. : Manzo 19.5 : Harvey 18.5 : Healy 18.0 : Poll taking by Penn & Teller. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Refreshingly posted Message 7693 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 09:22:21 Subject: Re: New Poll Results 10/14/04 : Manzo losing steam, Healy gaining, Harvey staying strong. : Just two weeks ago Manzo had a six point edge. It now has been cut down to 1.5. Manzo has always been known to peak to earlier, somewhat like my head. : Manzo 19.5 : Harvey 18.5 : Healy 18.0 : Poll taking by Penn & Teller. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Refreshingly posted Message 7694 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 09:22:30 Subject: Re: New Poll Results 10/14/04 : Manzo losing steam, Healy gaining, Harvey staying strong. : Just two weeks ago Manzo had a six point edge. It now has been cut down to 1.5. Manzo has always been known to peak to earlier, somewhat like my head. : Manzo 19.5 : Harvey 18.5 : Healy 18.0 : Poll taking by Penn & Teller. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Silence posted Message 7695 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 09:39:14 Subject: If a HC Politician remains silent about the HC corrupt Machine He or she is just as corrupt as its leaders.Menendez & kenny and the inside boys must be exposed for what they are or nothing will change. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 7696 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 10:01:47 Subject: Why not tell the truth Uncle Harvey? Inside County Lines Urban Times News October 1, 2004 - October 7, 2004 According to the Jersey Journal editorial staff, the newspaper does not take a political position. Of course that is the furthest thing from the truth. Earl the Hat Morgan is supporting Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith because he is allowed to sit in the meetings and give advice with Catfish Jones and Ed Cheat Cheatum. For example, he agreed with these two airheads about firing Willie Flood and then taking her back pay. The newspaper should be upfront about Earl the Hat and stop him now. Why not tell the truth Uncle Harvey? The Urban Times News has several New Jersey newspapers as well as the New York Times calling to find out why we refer to Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith as "Uncle Harvey". We want to clear the record once and for all. When Glenn D. Cunningham resigned as the U.S. Marshall for New Jersey to run for the office of mayor of Jersey City, L. Harvey Smith was upset because he believed that he should have been asked to run and become the first African American mayor of Jersey City. The supporters of Glenn Cunningham knew that Smith did not have the qualities to be mayor, and from that point on, Smith was upset. When Smith decided to run for reelection as Councilman -atLarge, no one would put him on their ticket, mainly Council President at the time, Tom DeGise. DeGise told Smith there was no room on his ticket for him. Lou Manzo, who was also running for mayor in 2001, said he wouldn't even talk to Smith because of Smith's loyalty to Republican Mayor Brett Schindler. Smith had nobody to call but Glenn Cunningham, so he called Cunningham who was reluctant to put him on the ticket. Smith already had a reputation as a double-crosser. Smith had the Reverend Ralph Brower call Cunningham and Joe Cardwell to support him getting on the ticket. Cunningham finally said okay. During the campaign, the ungrateful Smith never showed up for meetings or walked with campaigners among the voters. After Cunningham won the election, Smith wanted to become Council President, but former Mayor Brett Schindler and the City Council of Tom DeGise and William Gaughan would never support Smith. They would not support Smith for Council President even though he had been Councilman-at-large for eight years. Again Glenn Cunningham against his better judgment made Smith Council President. As soon as he became Council President, DeGise and Gaughan told him that he should be the mayor not Cunningham. Smith immediately turned against the Cunningham administration. L. Harvey voted against every important item the administration recommended. He even voted against the Rev. Ralph Brower's appointment to the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency. When State Senator Joe Charles decided to become a Superior Court Judge, DeGise and Gaughan told Smith they wanted him to run him against the first African American Mayor of Jersey City for State Senator. Smith was happy to be supported by the Hudson County Democratic Organization led by Tom DeGise and William Gaughan. Cunningham won the State Senate race with a devastating 9-1 margin of victory. Since his election to the City Council and Council President on the Cunningham ticket, Smith has always been an Uncle Tom for Tom DeGise and Bill Gaughan. When Glenn Cunningham died from a massive heart attack, DeGise did it to Smith again. Now they support Jerry Healy for mayor over their boy, their own personal Uncle Tom, L, Harvey Smith. When these two scoundrels threw Smith under the bus and supported Healy, Smith spoke before the Ministerial Alliance, stating that DeGise and Gaughan were racist. Now he see: they're racist. Smith, they were always racist. You just couldn't see it because your head was down, carrying water for these two, That is why we call you Uncle Harvey. Next we tell everybody why his widow barred you from Glenn Cunningham's funeral. Question? Are the same people who put police at the polls for Gerry McCann in 1985 working for Lou Manzo? Didn't these parties cut the cables at Currie Woods Projects and have to pay $500,000 in civil rights violations? We know Lou Manzo will do anything to win an election. I guess that is why Gerry McCann is telling everybody that Lou Manzo does not need the African American vote to become mayor. Manzo better check McCann out before it is too late. The L. Harvey Smith campaign is doing anything it can to get people to put a sign in their window or house. The Smith campaign is threatening business and homeowners to put up his signs or else. I guess Smith never heard of Wally Shield. When he casts his vote on November 2nd he should look up Wally Shield. The Lou Manzo campaign will put a sign on anything, including an outhouse, a doghouse, a cathouse or an abandoned house. Isn't it funny how the litter and posting ordinances don't seem to apply to Manzo's campaign? Uncle Harvey's latest move in trying to fool the black community is coming, again. Uncle Harvey is passing out a 5x7 card with election colors red, white and green saying, "Don't let Flood dilute the Power". First and foremost let's address the issue of an Uncle Tom that ran for State Senate against the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham (for the same people that kicked him out of the big house), talking about dividing votes. The only power that will be diluted is the power Smith has stolen as a result of his double-dealing and backstabbing. Uncle Harvey if you're going to tell what happened in 1992 when Willie Flood ran for mayor, let's tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Willie Flood announced that she was running siz weeks before the filing date in August of 1992. Assemblyman Joe Charles filed at 3:45 pm on the last filing day. It was Assemblyman Joe Charles who split the African American vote and was labeled a sellout because he did what he did to protect Lou Manzo. And Republican Brett Schundler won the election. Now guess who ran on Bret Schundler's ticket? That's right, Uncle Harvey. So Uncle Harvey let's not get it twisted. You were the one who benefited from the "dilute the power" scheme then, and you're trying to use it to your advantage again. Uncle Harvey says be careful or we could end up with nothing. Then he endorses Joe Doria for Senate, the man who stole the Cunningham State Senate seat and does nothing for Jersey City. Thanks Uncle Harvey, but we know we have to be careful. Uncle Harvey has already shown voters that they'll get nothing if they support him. L. Harvey Smith is the worst Uncle Tom we have ever had in Jersey City. On November 2nd let's retire Uncle Harvey, and stop him from defaming the names of Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X to hide his Uncle Tom ways. Let's keep hope alive by destroying this Unclde Tom in the upcoming elections, once and for all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No Menendez posted Message 7697 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 10:24:14 Subject: Is Uncle Harvey still supporting Menendez? Even though Menendez is fully supporting Manzo now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Disgust - A Good Little Boy posted Message 7698 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 10:53:32 Subject: Re: If a HC Politician remains silent about the HC corrupt Machine Tome Disgust is the first person that needs to be exposed. He is doing the leg work for Bobby and Bernie. : He or she is just as corrupt as its leaders.Menendez & kenny and the inside boys must be exposed for what they are or nothing will change. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Former Hawk posted Message 7699 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 11:27:22 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor - Continued... Is this Tom Gaynor the Former Hudson Catholic Basketball coach or his son??? Trying to keep up with Jersey City politics from North Carolina is tough these days. My old drinking buddy from Dahoneys Louey Manzo is quite the popular guy with his political aspirations. The Faa must be having a field day with all this stuff. : Continued... : Shortly after my call to lehman, I received another call from Gaynor who apologized profusely, admitted he had a few drinks at lunch before he made the call the day before. He had come back, read the paper was was angry, so he tracked my phone number down and called. Gaynor did say the campaign was getting to him. : He pressed me not to do anything and wanted to meet me to get the tape and would do anything as long as the tape was in his possession. : I think he may have even offered me tickets to a game. : He insisted he needed he copy of that tape and wanted to meet in a Jersey City Diner so I could hand over the tape to him. : I dropped the issue then for my family's sake, but kept the tape. : What a clown, not only to call me from his business phone that records the calls, then not realizing people have caller ID, but on to of that not leaving a name and to threaten me and my family. I wasn’t going to forget it. : Perhaps one day I may put the tape out on EBay, or better on the Internet so all can hear. : Now Tommy, sit down have a drink or perhaps two or three drinks and think that this political blunder over again for now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7700 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 11:43:40 Subject: Jersey Journal: Impreveduto records seized Impreveduto records seized Real estate papers taken from Secaucus in assemblyman probe Jersey Journal Thursday, October 14, 2004 By Michaelangelo Conte SECAUCUS - State law enforcement officials served subpoenas at Town Hall yesterday as part of an investigation into the campaign finances of state Assemblyman Anthony Impreveduto, officials said. An official close to the investigation said yesterday's subpoenas, as well as subpoenas served in May, are part of an investigation by the state Division of Criminal Justice to determine if Impreveduto, D-Secaucus, used campaign funds to pay personal expenses. . . . To read the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Any new poll? posted Message 7701 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 12:35:23 Subject: Who's on top? Who's on top now? I haven't seen any realible poll? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo for Mayor posted Message 7702 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 12:57:14 Subject: FUND RAISER TONITE AT CAFE NEWPORT 6 pm to 8 pm tix $500.00 & 1,000.00 call 201-332-2229 for info. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 7703 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 13:20:12 Subject: Here's my back !! The Cunningham Legacy - Racism, corruption, division. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TWisted posted Message 7704 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 13:24:48 Subject: Re: Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! listen up there is alot of things thatis being said and that is fine with me but there is one thing why does healy have to threaten the parking authority jobs if they dont vote for him now we all now that this is wrong and all and i have to say if a drunk gets in then think there iwll be more drunks on the street like healy and there will be bars on every corner of the streets and all why do we need him when we have a person like manzo want to give people a second chance at what they want and help them on there feet after they get out of jail so they dont have to steal and everything else again that is y ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cops posted Message 7705 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 13:40:36 Subject: Don't go, there will be a raid!! We're watching u Panzo!! : 6 pm to 8 pm tix $500.00 & 1,000.00 : call 201-332-2229 for info. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poll Pro posted Message 7706 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 13:41:48 Subject: These polls are too expensive to put in public!! : Who's on top now? I haven't seen any realible poll? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stay Tuned posted Message 7707 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 13:42:57 Subject: Panzo's Next I see Mr. Christe is back on the job. : Impreveduto records seized : Real estate papers taken from Secaucus in assemblyman probe : Jersey Journal : Thursday, October 14, 2004 : By Michaelangelo Conte : SECAUCUS - State law enforcement officials served subpoenas at Town Hall yesterday as part of an investigation into the campaign finances of state Assemblyman Anthony Impreveduto, officials said. : An official close to the investigation said yesterday's subpoenas, as well as subpoenas served in May, are part of an investigation by the state Division of Criminal Justice to determine if Impreveduto, D-Secaucus, used campaign funds to pay personal expenses. : . . . : To read the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 7708 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 13:44:44 Subject: He supports anybody who gives him money. Sellout bastard!!! : Even though Menendez is fully supporting Manzo now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 7709 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 13:50:17 Subject: Still Using your convict brother's dirty money HuH? I hope Christe throws u under the Jail!! He is a crook who wants to $uck Jersey City's taxpayers dry!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** la la la boomseay! posted Message 7710 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 13:51:09 Subject: Healy will jump out of cake! Jersey City's own Chippendale! : We're watching u Panzo!! : : : 6 pm to 8 pm tix $500.00 & 1,000.00 : : call 201-332-2229 for info. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Save the Taxpayers posted Message 7711 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 14:59:19 Subject: Criminal Team of Deak and Davis Working for Manzo? The word is out that Gerry McCann has brought in that tag team of political corruption, Ed Deak and Chuck Davis, to work on the Manzo campaign. Deak was the head of the ABC during Merry Gerry's first term. When Cucci got in it was found out that the ABC cupboard was bare, like a fan had blowed all the cash right out the window. Investigators knew that Deak was the fall guy, but he refused to testify, laying the blame for the missing funds on heavy drinking. When Deak was let out of the pokey, impressed with this McCann official's silence and loyalty, Chuck Davis took him in under his wing, supposedly to work for a pet fish business. The pet fish business was a front. As head of the Sewerage Authority, Chuck Davis was shaking down contractors and using the fish business to launder the money. One of the contractors -- previously convicted in a Hudson County Mafia trial revolving around a plot to murder John Gotti -- turned informant against Chuck Davis. To his credit, Davis zipped his lip, but he should of just said he was guilty and did the time. Instead, Deak and Davis tried to claim that the money came from selling goldfish and mollies, though they had no receipts and no list of customers. The story that they insulted the intelligence of the court with was that Deak just rode around NYC and sold the fish out of the trunk of his car for cash. The fact was that the snitch had kept records of the payoffs and they matched date and dollar to Davis's subpoenaed bank deposits. A conviction and a maxed out prison term was the score. I wonder if Chuck Davis every had anything to do with tropical fish maven Dr. Axelrod, now jailed in Germany and fighting to stay out a reach of Chris Christie? I hope that Davis is off a parole for the terms were that he was not to come to Hudson County without informing the feds and was under no circumstances to contact anyone involved with politics. The feds saw Chuck Davis as a political kleptomaniac and the only cure was to keep him out of the candy store. A little off to the side gem was that as head of the Sewerage Authority Davis bought for himself a Corvette -- billed to the Sewerage Authority! The Manzo organization is starting to look more and more like the McGreevey administration. There's Danny who gets high $$$ jobs for who can say why. As Benny Hill used to say, "It's hard to put your finger on it -- It is for me anyhow." Now known criminal politicians are brought into the circle. Plus, Lou Manzo's OWN BROTHER was actually in on a shady stock deal with McGreevey's very own long time right hand man, Gary Taffett. Manzo must come clean. Is this crew working for you? If yes, protect the public and GET RID OF THEM NOW! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Louie Panzo posted Message 7712 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 15:09:44 Subject: I had to stab Glenn in the back. I wanted to be Mayor. I'm glad he died, now I can run for mayor!! I never liked him anyway. I just used him and the black community to win my assembly seat. And I'm using them again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chamber member posted Message 7713 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 15:27:31 Subject: Lipski most sensible of all debaters Lipski spoke of tax incentives and accountability and supporting our troops. I'd vote for him ***************** End Of Article ****************** I didn't know he had kids that old in his school posted Message 7714 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 15:33:56 Subject: Re: Lipski most sensible of all debaters : Lipski spoke of tax incentives and accountability and supporting our troops. I'd vote for him ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 7715 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 15:35:05 Subject: HEALY LEADS COUNCILMAN JERRAMIAH IS LEADING IN TWO POLLS . HARVEY SMITHS AND STEVEN LIPSKI. LOU MANZO WILL NOT DIVULGE HIS POLLS TO ANYONE BECAUSE HE IS LOSING GROUND FAST HE PEAKED AND HEALY IS AHEAD . WHAT A CAMPAIGN JERRY JUST WONT GIVE UP AND HE WILL WIN. GO MR HEALY!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerzzycity posted Message 7716 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 15:40:45 Subject: Re: Manzo old enough to post? : : Lipski spoke of tax incentives and accountability and supporting our troops. I'd vote for him Pathetic ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm not following posted Message 7717 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 15:42:14 Subject: Re: HEALY LEADS WAY TO NUDE BEACH : COUNCILMAN JERRAMIAH IS LEADING IN TWO POLLS . : HARVEY SMITHS AND STEVEN LIPSKI. : LOU MANZO WILL NOT DIVULGE HIS POLLS TO ANYONE BECAUSE HE IS LOSING GROUND FAST HE PEAKED AND HEALY IS AHEAD . : WHAT A CAMPAIGN JERRY JUST WONT GIVE UP AND HE WILL WIN. : GO MR HEALY!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dick Hurts posted Message 7718 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 15:43:20 Subject: Re: Ask Danny Boy : : : : Lipski spoke of tax incentives and accountability and supporting our troops. I'd vote for him : Pathetic ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kielbasa posted Message 7719 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 15:45:41 Subject: LIPSKI LEADS WITH THE POLES Bobby Vinton to appear at the inauguration ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's Jimmy King posted Message 7720 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 16:14:21 Subject: Re: Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! : listen up there is alot of things thatis being said and that is fine with me but there is one thing why does healy have to threaten the parking authority jobs if they dont vote for him now we all now that this is wrong and all and i have to say if a drunk gets in then think there iwll be more drunks on the street like healy and there will be bars on every corner of the streets and all why do we need him when we have a person like manzo want to give people a second chance at what they want and help them on there feet after they get out of jail so they dont have to steal and everything else again that is y ***************** End Of Article ****************** Refreshingly posted Message 7721 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 16:20:03 Subject: Re: New Poll Results 10/14/04 : : Manzo losing steam, Healy gaining, Harvey staying strong. : : Just two weeks ago Manzo had a six point edge. It now has been cut down to 1.5. Manzo has always been known to peak to earlier., : Manzo 19.5 : : Harvey 18.5 : : Healy 18.0 : : Poll taking by Penn & Teller. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 7722 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 16:21:42 Subject: Re: Here's my back !! : The Cunningham Legacy - Racism, corruption, division and Chakotay, all the same. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Straight Shooter posted Message 7723 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 16:24:16 Subject: Re: Still Using your convict brother's dirty money HuH? I hope Christe throws u under the Jail!! Can't have it both ways....either he uses his brother's money....or he wants to $uck JC dry. Which is it? : He is a crook who wants to $uck Jersey City's taxpayers dry!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo has agreed to testify against his brother posted Message 7724 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 16:26:47 Subject: Manzo Has No Balls Manzo has agreed to testify against his brother for giving him insider trading tips. Judge OKs witness list in case against former McGreevey aide The Associated Press August 6, 2004 10:06 PM NEW YORK - A District Court judge signed an order approving the government's list of potential witnesses in its insider trading case against Gary Taffet, a former top aide to Gov. James E. McGreevey. Included on the list approved Thursday by Judge Shira Scheindlin are several high profile Democrats, including developer Charles Kushner, a top donor who has been charged in a separate federal obstruction case; George Norcross, a prominent behind-the-scenes player in Democratic Party politics in southern New Jersey; state Assembly Majority Leader Joseph Roberts (D-Camden); former McGreevey aide Paul Levinsohn and Assemblyman Louis Manzo (D-Hudson), whose brother admitted to tipping Taffet to the insider stock tips. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Censorship S-tinks posted Message 7725 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 16:28:52 Subject: Get with the Program Anthony OK Anthony...let's get real. Your board here is a good outlet. But your censorship is ridiculous. You censor personal attacks..sometimes, but other times you allow them. You don't allow even the word STIN-KS. Totally ridiculous You don't allow the word ass-hole but you do allow bunghole. You won't allow s ucks. But you do allow $ucks or sux. You don't allow F ucked up. But you do allow F'd up. Why not just publish a list of forbidden words so we don't have to edit ourselves all the time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You are a total loser. posted Message 7726 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 16:31:26 Subject: A COMPLETE MIS-REPRESENTATION : Manzo has agreed to testify. That's it. Not against his brother. Just to testify about what he knew. You can try to spin it any way you want. But intelligent people understand how the courts work. : Judge OKs witness list in case against former McGreevey aide : The Associated Press August 6, 2004 10:06 PM : NEW YORK - A District Court judge signed an order approving the government's list of potential witnesses in its insider trading case against Gary Taffet, a former top aide to Gov. James E. McGreevey. : Included on the list approved Thursday by Judge Shira Scheindlin are several high profile Democrats, including developer Charles Kushner, a top donor who has been charged in a separate federal obstruction case; George Norcross, a prominent behind-the-scenes player in Democratic Party politics in southern New Jersey; state Assembly Majority Leader Joseph Roberts (D-Camden); former McGreevey aide Paul Levinsohn and Assemblyman Louis Manzo (D-Hudson), whose brother admitted to tipping Taffet to the insider stock tips. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo is a thief posted Message 7727 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 16:35:09 Subject: Re: FUND RAISER TONITE AT CAFE NEWPORT : or bring your insider trading tips! Cafe Newport is no off my list! Hey Lou, are you raising bail money! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Clear it up posted Message 7728 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 16:39:04 Subject: Urban Times Gets Bombastic Again Course of the election ALTERED due to Sandy's endorsement? Give me a break. If she can muster 250 votes city-wide...that's a lot. It will have absolutely no impact on the final outcome of this election. Sandy...you're a "nice lady" but you have no political saavy. You would have been better off playing the greiving widow and maintaining your dignity and your husband's legacy. Now you will go down as a two-time loser.... first Bounocore and now Flood. Its a shame. : SANDRA CUNNINGHAM ENDORSES FLOOD FOR MAYOR : Urban Times News : October 8, 2004 - October 14, 2004 : by Arnold Stovell : The course of events for the special elections to be held on November 2nd may have been altered with the recent endorsement of Cunningham widow Sandra Bolden-Cunningham confidently being given to candidate Willie Flood. At a press conference held at Reform Democratic Headquarters on Thursday, Mrs. Cunningham extended kind words and support to Ms. Flood whom she described as "a good friend and mentor." : "Glenn was a man of compassion, generosity, and kindness who truly loved Jersey City. I feel those are essential qualities to being a good mayor and anyone who knows Willie Flood, knows that she embodies these qualities. Glenn wanted to make sure that all parts of Jersey City prospered. He was very focused on making all those parts of the city grow that other administrations had ignored. He wanted every part of Jersey City to grow as the waterfront grew. I know that Willie will make sure that all of Jersey City's neighborhoods will be golden neighborhoods." : In her speech, Mrs. Cunningham explained her earlier support of Ron Buonocore. The perhaps former Chief of Police was a friend to Mayor Cunningham who announced his candidacy before Mrs. Flood. Mr. Buonocore officially a resident of Jersey City. : "I supported Ron Buonocore because I felt he had the skills to run Jersey City. However I am pleased to see several of his friends and allies stepping up to continue his work." Ms. Cunningham mentioned by name the candidates on the Reform Democratic ticket and former Cunningham officials still maintaining their positions. As well Ms. Cunningham had kind words for Councilman Lipski whom she also described as an ally of the late mayor "who he would be proud of." : "But this is a day we are here to honor Willie Flood. I am proud to have known her for a long time. She's been a wonderful supporter of Glenn. She's been a wonderful friend and mentor to me. She's been a wonderful community leader, and I honestly believe she will do an excellent job as the next mayor of Jersey City. I knew Willie Flood was the candidate that I had to support." Mrs. Cunningham also stated that she hoped others would join in supporting Flood but added that everyone has a right to their own decision. : Ms. Flood graciously acknowledged Ms. Cunningham's announcement, "To all of you who have stuck with me through all the bad times, today is a very good time. Sandy Cunningham has made my heart glad, and I am sure she has made many of you glad also. Let's hear it for her. I am very proud and honored because Sandy is family and Sandy is a friend. I have always said and maintained that." Ms. Flood led the crowd in rousing applause for the first lady of the city as they tearfully embraced amidst the crowd. : Other Reform Democratic Organization candidates took pictures and congratulated Mrs. Flood while reuniting with Mrs. Cunningham. Jeff Dublin, candidate for Freeholder, Kabili Tayari, candidate for State Senator, and Willie Flood candidate for mayor, took pictures and conferred as reporters grabbed moments for interviews. : Away from the microphones, Mrs. Flood would discuss what this means to her. "This is a great day for the campaign. It's a great day for all of us. It brings us more of the energy that we experience as a family, all of Jersey City can come together and make this work for us all." Mrs. Flood also maintained this position touching on the debate the night before, and the issues raised by the Jersey City Lesbian and Gay Organization. "I think that if whatever their lifestyle that is fine with me. We shouldn't be in people's business or get into that. They are citizens like us and they have issues that are the exact same as everyone else in Jersey City. I am going to work hard and work with them for their families and their children just like everybody else. We love Sandy very much and she's been through a lot and we hope she wilt help when she can but I don't want to put any more pressure on her." : Ms. Cunningham spoke fondly of Ms. Flood as well, summing up some of the things that make her so sure of her endorsement. "Willie genuinely cares about the people of Jersey City. She worked with Glenn closely. It is important that we get someone in office who is linked to the people of Jersey City and not just to themselves or their friends, someone who can bring the various factions together. She helped Glenn get things done. She will work to bring golden neighborhoods. She understands the necessity for moving the city forward. She's committed to the city. She has worked for the city, and she definitely lives in the city." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey Journal posted Message 7729 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 16:40:25 Subject: Who sleeps with Gerry? A member of the Jersey Journal staff is actually sleeping with Gerry McCann. It's no wonder that the brainless and horney reporters there favor the Manzo camp. Is it Conte or Tanti? ***************** End Of Article ****************** it is true posted Message 7730 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 16:46:02 Subject: The Urban Times news is Gay The Urban Times is gay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Everything is Gay here! posted Message 7731 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 16:57:19 Subject: Re: The Urban Times news is Gay Everything is gay here, ok? Where the hell have you been? I can't wait to expose someone for being heterosexual! Wrong message board! : The Urban Times is gay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Peyton Place posted Message 7732 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 17:01:21 Subject: Who sleeps with Gerry? A member of the Jersey Journal staff is actually sleeping with Gerry McCann. It's no wonder that the brainless and horney reporters there favor the Manzo camp. Is it Conte or Tanti? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get rid of your van Smith! posted Message 7733 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 17:01:43 Subject: Willie Flood has the BEST truck! If Willie Flood can give us a Truck that plays movies on all the sides, she can sure as hell fix this city! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7734 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 17:25:04 Subject: 1990 Doria Assembly One-Liners AP June 24, 1990 Politicians have a reputation as a boring and bombastic bunch. But on occasion, the staid politicos loosen their ties and the hallowed halls of the state Legislature come alive with some wild and wacky doings. Take two weeks ago when the Assembly was preparing to debate Governor Florio's budget, tax increases and school funding proposals. Before the debate began, the Democratic-controlled Assembly slipped in a vote to limit discussion on any bill to two hours -- a move outraged Republicans immediately decried as a "gag " order to limit dissent. To demonstrate their displeasure, GOP members tied red bandanas around their mouths as gags, prompting Assembly Speaker Joseph V. Doria Jr., D-Hudson, to describe them as a band of desperadoes. During one heated late-night session in the Assembly on a bill to extend the sales tax to toilet paper, Assemblyman Patrick Roma, R-Bergen, complained: "The bottom line is people are going to remember this tax every time the)' go to the bathroom. " "Only if they're anal retentive, " shot back Doria. . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7735 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 17:43:01 Subject: Think of it like a crossword puzzle. Maybe it'll even raise SAT scores. It's possible. : OK Anthony...let's get real. Your board here is a good outlet. But your censorship is ridiculous. You censor personal attacks..sometimes, but other times you allow them. : You don't allow even the word STIN-KS. Totally ridiculous : You don't allow the word ass-hole but you do allow bunghole. : You won't allow s ucks. But you do allow $ucks or sux. : You don't allow F ucked up. But you do allow F'd up. : Why not just publish a list of forbidden words so we don't have to edit ourselves all the time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7736 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 17:46:46 Subject: That's the Board's claim to fame! : Everything is gay here, ok? Where the hell have you been? I can't wait to expose someone for being heterosexual! Wrong message board! : : The Urban Times is gay. That's the Board's claim to fame! Here's what the New York Times had to say: And according to a chat board on the Web, every candidate is gay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UGH! WHO WANTS HIS TINY WINNY? posted Message 7737 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 17:55:28 Subject: Re: Who sleeps with Gerry? : A member of the Jersey Journal staff is actually sleeping with Gerry McCann. It's no wonder that the brainless and horney reporters there favor the Manzo camp. Is it Conte or Tanti? ***************** End Of Article ****************** ugh posted Message 7738 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 18:08:47 Subject: Re: Who sleeps with Gerry? : : A member of the Jersey Journal staff is actually sleeping with Gerry McCann. It's no wonder that the brainless and horney reporters there favor the Manzo camp. Is it Conte or Tanti? it's maggie doyle. They're a tandem entry in city's ugliest pet contest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ugh posted Message 7739 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 18:08:48 Subject: Re: Who sleeps with Gerry? : : A member of the Jersey Journal staff is actually sleeping with Gerry McCann. It's no wonder that the brainless and horney reporters there favor the Manzo camp. Is it Conte or Tanti? it's maggie doyle. They're a tandem entry in city's ugliest pet contest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ugh posted Message 7740 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 18:09:45 Subject: Re: Who sleeps with Gerry? : : : A member of the Jersey Journal staff is actually sleeping with Gerry McCann. It's no wonder that the brainless and horney reporters there favor the Manzo camp. Is it Conte or Tanti? : it's maggie doyle. They're a tandem entry in city's ugliest pet contest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wow...that's a heck of an accomplishment posted Message 7741 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 19:32:22 Subject: Re: Willie Flood has the BEST truck! If Willie Flood can give us a truck that plays movies, then we know what happened to Cunningham's warchest. Honey, there's a lot more to running a city than providing a truck with tacky screens on it. I really feel sorry for you if you actually believe what you wrote. : If Willie Flood can give us a Truck that plays movies on all the sides, she can sure as hell fix this city! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie-Doobie-Doo posted Message 7742 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 19:32:33 Subject: Let me be the first to say :::I am as hetero as you can get. :) : : Everything is gay here, ok? Where the hell have you been? I can't wait to expose someone for being heterosexual! Wrong message board! : : : The Urban Times is gay. : That's the Board's claim to fame! : Here's what the New York Times had to say: : And according to a chat board on the Web, every candidate is gay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You been peeking again? posted Message 7743 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 19:33:25 Subject: Re: Manzo Has No Balls : Manzo has agreed to testify against his brother for giving him insider trading tips. : Judge OKs witness list in case against former McGreevey aide : The Associated Press August 6, 2004 10:06 PM : NEW YORK - A District Court judge signed an order approving the government's list of potential witnesses in its insider trading case against Gary Taffet, a former top aide to Gov. James E. McGreevey. : Included on the list approved Thursday by Judge Shira Scheindlin are several high profile Democrats, including developer Charles Kushner, a top donor who has been charged in a separate federal obstruction case; George Norcross, a prominent behind-the-scenes player in Democratic Party politics in southern New Jersey; state Assembly Majority Leader Joseph Roberts (D-Camden); former McGreevey aide Paul Levinsohn and Assemblyman Louis Manzo (D-Hudson), whose brother admitted to tipping Taffet to the insider stock tips. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say what??? posted Message 7744 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 19:36:20 Subject: Re: Let me be the first to say You pulled a "McGreevey" and outed yourself! Quit your job immediately!!! : :::I am as hetero as you can get. : :) : : : Everything is gay here, ok? Where the hell have you been? I can't wait to expose someone for being heterosexual! Wrong message board! : : : : The Urban Times is gay. : : That's the Board's claim to fame! : : Here's what the New York Times had to say: : : And according to a chat board on the Web, every candidate is gay. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 350 MORGAN posted Message 7745 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 19:51:12 Subject: Re: Who sleeps with Gerry? gerry sleep's alone just like BOB all that talent and BOB'S cash WHAT A WASTE;;;;;;; ***************** End Of Article ****************** 350 MORGAN posted Message 7746 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 19:51:17 Subject: Re: Who sleeps with Gerry? gerry sleep's alone just like BOB all that talent and BOB'S cash WHAT A WASTE;;;;;;; ***************** End Of Article ****************** Informer posted Message 7747 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 19:53:30 Subject: Wheels coming off Manzo Campaign 2 days ago, Manzo's Ward A Club kicks Gerry McCann from their ward club and replaces him with Richie F as the Ward Leader. Today O'Dea's Club takes down all their Manzo signs. Latest Poll shows Manzo has not moved in one month and he has peaked too early. What's next? Bye Bye Louie! ***************** End Of Article ****************** retired jcpd posted Message 7748 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 20:27:54 Subject: who is DICK HARRISON anybody have a clue ?????? ***************** End Of Article ****************** bubba on cell block 5 posted Message 7749 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 20:35:56 Subject: where the hell's bobby j. hi my name is hubba bubba and i'm an inmate in the federal can can anyone tell me when janiszewski is going to be sentenced or is he still out there ratting on people. i bought all these toys and i don't want them to go to waste ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7750 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 20:39:29 Subject: Re: who is DICK HARRISON : anybody have a clue ?????? Who was the Police Director during McCann's first term? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 7751 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 21:01:12 Subject: I AM GAY !!! After all, I'm a priest. What did you expect ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** RICH posted Message 7752 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 21:17:39 Subject: MANZO CAMPAIGN FAILING LOU MANZOS CAMPAIGN IS FALLING APART HAS HE PEAKED? POLLS SHOW HEALY 6 POINTS AHEAD AND HARVEY IS A DISTANT THIRD. MANZO AND HEALY CAMPS BLAMING EACH OTHER FOR SIGN REMOVALS WHEN IT IS HARVEY SMITH DOING THE DAMAGE. MAY THE BEST MAN OR WOMAN WIN, ***************** End Of Article ****************** MARIA posted Message 7753 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 21:31:37 Subject: HEALY ALL OVER CITY THE HEALY CAMPAIGN SIGNS ARE BECOMING MORE VISABLY ALL OVER THE CITY. IN A SPECIAL POLL TAKEN ON TUESDAY HEALY SEEMS TO BE WINNING WARD "A" HANDILY IN THE PAST ALL IT TOOK WAS A WARD "A" AND WARD "D" TO WIN BUT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE HE HAS A-D-E-C B- WILL BE A AN EDGE FOR MANZO "F" WILL GO TO FLOOD HEALY WILL GET 9 TO 1200 VOTES FROM "F"AS USUAL HE GOT 956 FOR COUNCIL AGAINST GLENS TICKET.ONLY 2 WEEKS LEFT. FOR THE VERDICT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RODGER MANION posted Message 7754 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 21:36:41 Subject: NEW YORK TIMES A RAG. THE NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY JERRY MCCANNS SON IN LAW COUSIN WHAT A LIBERAL RAG ***************** End Of Article ****************** TERRY HENION posted Message 7755 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 21:41:46 Subject: ODDSMAKERS MONEY ON HEALY TO WIN BETS ARE ON JERRY HEALY TO WIN MAYORS RACE ON NOV 2ND LOU MANZO WILL PLACE 2ND AND WILLIE FLOOD WILL SHOW. HARVEY IS A DISTANT 4th lipski just getting name recognition for may. SO BET THE RANCH DESPITE ALL THE NOISE ABOUT HEALY HE WILL WIN . TAKE IT TO THE BANK. ALL SMART MONEY GOING TO HEALY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GOJERRYGO posted Message 7756 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 21:52:00 Subject: HEALY ENDORSEMENTS MAJOR ENDORSEMENTS ARE PILING UP FOR A BIG PUSH FOR JERRY HEALY .ALL THE TOP LABOR UNIONS IN THE COUNTY & STATE WILL ENDORSE HIM ALONG WITH MOST ELECTED OFFICIALY THE LAST WEEK OF THE CAMPAIGN. THERE WILL BE CAMPAIGN WORKERS HEAVY IN NUMBERS GETTING OUT THE VOTE. FROM THE HCDO ESPECIALLY SINCE BIG MOUTH MCCANNIS SAYING IN THE LOCAL PUBS IF LOU WINS THEY ARE GOING NORTH TO GET BOB MENENDEZ AND SACCO. BRIAN STACK IS WITH LOU. AND WONT BE MAYOR NEXT ELECTION FOR WORKING WITH MANZO. ONNELECTION DAY LOOK FOR THE HEALY WORKERS BY THE HUNDREDS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY.AND HE WILL BE CELEBRATING VICTORY AT PUCCINIS IN JERSEY CITY MARION SECTION. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 7757 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 22:03:42 Subject: HEALY WE NEED YOU! GO JERRY JERSEY CITY NEEDS YOU. YOU ARE LEADING AND ALL THE SIGNS IN THE CITY FOR MANZO ARE ILLEGALY POSTED WHAT A DISGRACE FOR A MAYORAL CANDIDATE, MR MANZO YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF FOR LITTERING OUR CITY AND POLES WITH GLUED POSTERS FROM YOUR CAMPAIGN THAT YOU CANT REMOVE. SO THE CITY WILL HAVE TO GET THEM DOWN, THE TAXPAYER TAKES A BEATING AGAIN THANKS TO YOU AND MCCANN. AND WHERE IS(JCIA) RICKY THE BURGLAR ? IS HE TAKING DOWN HEALY SIGNS WHAT A REAL A$$. AND HE IS LOUS HEMMOROID. ***************** End Of Article ****************** that explain's posted Message 7758 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 23:04:33 Subject: Re: who is DICK HARRISON : why we u 2 call him DICK ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIM FOM TOW posted Message 7759 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 23:07:12 Subject: GO HEALY NUDE TO CITY HALL Healy go Healy good irishman pride of the naked culture,,,, Bradley Beach love you Mr Healy . ***************** End Of Article ****************** good news posted Message 7760 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 23:25:24 Subject: Re: HEALY ALL OVER CITY : bye; gerry :bye; louie: GOOD GOVERMENT WIN'SSS WE LOVE YOU HEALY GO GOOD GOVERMENT!!!!!!!!!! NOW TAKE THAT mcann SEE YOU ON HUTTON ST. REMBER THE ELK'S WE DO'''''' SEE YOU 11/3/04 U R DONE ************ TRUST ME U R DONE*********** BYE ; BYE; ***************** End Of Article ****************** UGH ! posted Message 7761 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 23:41:03 Subject: Re: Who sleeps with Gerry? : : : they both have the PKg. just ask gerry's son he did maggie just ask TARA oooHHHH sorry!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** jimmy d posted Message 7762 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 14, 2004 at 23:55:28 Subject: I AM JOHN LANGAN hello dick I'll play by the way I JUST GOT BACK FROM D.C. LET'S PLAY ***************** End Of Article ****************** Teacher posted Message 7763 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 00:08:58 Subject: Re: HEALY ALL OVER CITY Maria my dear...the word is VISABLE.... I trust you do not work in the press or write for a living. If so... we are truly in trouble in this country. And please learn to seperate your sentences. Run-on sentences are an attack on the senses. And if you are trying to say that Ward B is in the Manzo column, perhaps you can start a whole new sentence to explain that. Perhaps you find that a novel idea. The written word is an art form that can lift us all, or bury us in confusion. Unfortunately, your post does the later rather than the former. : THE HEALY CAMPAIGN SIGNS ARE BECOMING MORE VISABLY ALL OVER THE CITY. IN A SPECIAL POLL TAKEN ON TUESDAY HEALY SEEMS TO BE WINNING WARD "A" HANDILY IN THE PAST ALL IT TOOK WAS A WARD "A" AND WARD "D" TO WIN BUT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE HE HAS A-D-E-C B- WILL BE A AN EDGE FOR MANZO "F" WILL GO TO FLOOD HEALY WILL GET 9 TO 1200 VOTES FROM "F"AS USUAL HE GOT 956 FOR COUNCIL AGAINST GLENS TICKET.ONLY 2 WEEKS LEFT. FOR THE VERDICT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rocker and Roller posted Message 7764 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 00:12:26 Subject: Seems Manzo People are at the Fund Raiser Tonight With all of these Pro-Healy postings this evening going unanswered, it seems Lou Manzo must have had a pretty good turnout at his fundraiser. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Miss Crabtree posted Message 7765 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 00:21:02 Subject: Spelling lesson. "And please learn to seperate your sentences." It's spelled SEPARATE my dear. Have a seat in the corner and write the word 100 times. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mmmmmm posted Message 7766 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 00:44:41 Subject: rock roller :maybe they used the video ttape ***************** End Of Article ****************** Moral Faith posted Message 7767 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 00:46:56 Subject: all candidates and supports must know " Neither party expected for the war, the magnitude, or the duration, which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with, or even before, the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible, and pray to the same God; and each invokes his aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces; but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered; that neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THAT'S DEEP posted Message 7768 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 00:51:06 Subject: Re: all candidates and supports must know : " Neither party expected for the war, the magnitude, or the duration, which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with, or even before, the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible, and pray to the same God; and each invokes his aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from : the sweat of other men's faces; but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered; that neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. THAT'S DEEP ***************** End Of Article ****************** may you rot posted Message 7769 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 00:59:33 Subject: @sshole : After all, I'm a priest. What did you expect ? you will burn in hell!! laugh now, and soon you will cry in hell. I can't believe you use a priest, you don't have any respect. ***************** End Of Article ****************** healy 4 /mayor posted Message 7770 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 01:01:44 Subject: lou manzo WHAT IS A MANZO??????? I OPENED THE DOOR@!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** MMMMMMM posted Message 7771 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 01:24:24 Subject: Re: I AM JOHN LANGAN : hello dick I'll play by the way I JUST GOT BACK FROM D.C. LET'S PLAY JUST SEEN YOUR X THAT'S RIGHT SHE WAS IN THE BATHROOM IN SHANNON'S ON HER KNEE'S AGAIN YOUR POOR KID'S ***************** End Of Article ****************** MMMMMMMMM posted Message 7772 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 01:37:06 Subject: Re: NEW YORK TIMES A RAG. : THE NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY JERRY MCCANNS SON IN LAW COUSIN WHAT A LIBERAL RAG THAT'S NOT TARA'S HUSBAND'S COUSIN?? GUESS WE'LL GIVE A CALL TO EDITOR M.K. THE PAIN HAS JUST BEGUN GERRY .........SIGNED///''MIKE MASTERS ''''REMEMBER ME ...MMMMMMMMMM ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7773 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 07:18:02 Subject: Jersey Journal: Pol: Subpoenas sought info on my four homes Pol: Subpoenas sought info on my four homes State probe focuses on assemblyman's campaign finances Jersey Journal Friday, October 15, 2004 By Dunstan McNichol Newhouse News Service Assemblyman Anthony Impreveduto, D-Secaucus, said state investigators were looking for information about his personal real estate holdings when they delivered more than 50 subpoenas to various locations Wednesday. . . . For the complete article, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I saw It WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted Message 7774 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 09:17:10 Subject: They call her dumb but I would have never thought of something as smart as that video truck!!!! That thing is awesome! It has at least 80 inch screens on both sides and on the back! You can't make this stuff up. That woman is BRILLIANT! Go WILLIE. Screw what they say on this board we WILL show up at the polls!!!! Rock on Willie!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** You say tomato, I say tomahto posted Message 7775 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 09:24:30 Subject: Re: They call her dumb but I would have never thought of something as smart as that video truck!!!! You think the video screens are smart...I think it's just plain tacky. If that's the best she can offer, I feel sorry for her. Must have been the idea of the "brain trust". : That thing is awesome! It has at least 80 inch screens on both sides and on the back! You can't make this stuff up. That woman is BRILLIANT! Go WILLIE. Screw what they say on this board we WILL show up at the polls!!!! Rock on Willie!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Voice of reason. posted Message 7776 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 09:27:53 Subject: If healy gets in JC will be laughing stock! He's irresponsible. If you would vote for someone who would be that irresponsible to not remember how he got somewhere naked we are sadly out of touch. Be real, what if he does win. Jersey city will be a laughing stock. The man admitted he drank too much and didn't remember how he got somewhere naked? come on. I don't want him making decisions for me or representing the thinking of the people of this city. That's just plain juvenile. I did that in college. Wake up people. I'm not telling you who to vote for but the choice is pretty obvious. I would pick a clean glass over a dirty one anyday. Peace. Do the right thing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I beg to differ. posted Message 7777 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 09:52:22 Subject: We need a woman like her. I beg to differ. I think that the video truck represents some fresh new Ideas. This city is growing at a fast pace and this is the kind of futuristic thinking we need to keep moving ahead. All the other candidates are either a drunk, gay, an uncle tom, a crook it's just sickning. And none of it really matters. I have NEVER heard her name in any kind of scandle. I believe she truly has the city's best intrests at heart. These other guys don't and they have proved it. She definitely has my vote and nobody can change that FACT. : You think the video screens are smart...I think it's just plain tacky. If that's the best she can offer, I feel sorry for her. Must have been the idea of the "brain trust". : : That thing is awesome! It has at least 80 inch screens on both sides and on the back! You can't make this stuff up. That woman is BRILLIANT! Go WILLIE. Screw what they say on this board we WILL show up at the polls!!!! Rock on Willie!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Diogenes posted Message 7778 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 10:00:08 Subject: Healy takes the lead. NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: October 13, 2004 FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 HEALY SURGES INTO LEAD IN JERSEY CITY MAYOR RACE The latest poll taken in the Jersey City Mayor’s race shows that Councilman Jerramiah Healy has surged ahead and is now in first place. The poll by McLaughlin & Associates taken on October 10 and 11 found that Healy now has 25% of the vote, Lou Manzo has 22%, Harvey Smith has 13%, Willie Flood has 11%, and Steve Lipski has 2%. Healy’s vote has almost doubled in the last month. A September poll by the same firm had him in third place with just 13%. “Councilman Healy’s campaign clearly has the momentum at this critical point in the campaign,” said Healy Campaign Media Consultant Anthony Amabile. “It’s quickly becoming a two man race and Lou Manzo is losing ground rapidly.” Amabile said that personal integrity is a key issue in the race and that Manzo is being hurt by his association with his Chief of Staff Gerald McCann, a convicted felon who spent three years in prison for bank fraud. “Voters who are tired of corruption and crime are choosing Jerramiah Healy, a former judge and prosecutor, to clean up Jersey City,” he said. “McCann makes people’s skin crawl.” McLaughlin & Associates is a prominent national polling firm with extensive experience in Jersey City and New Jersey. To: Healy for Mayor From: McLaughlin & Associates Re: Jersey City Executive Survey Summary Date: October 13, 2004 Methodology: This Jersey City, New Jersey survey was conducted among 300 likely general election voters on October 10th and 11th, 2004. All interviews were conducted by professional interviewers via telephone. Interview selection was at random within predetermined election units. These units were structured to statistically correlate with actual general election voter distributions in Jersey City. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. Summary: The special election for Jersey City Mayor this November is seeing the field narrowed down to a few candidates. According to recent statistics, Jerramiah T. Healy has taken over the lead in the race for Mayor of Jersey City. Healy was running in 3rd in a close race with 13% of the vote on September 7th. Since then, he has gained over 11 points and now has 25% of the ballot. The other candidates are flat and not moving. Jerramiah T. Healy still maintains an almost a 3 to 1 (38.0% to 14.0%) favorable to unfavorable ratio. It is clear that among the voters who do have an opinion of him, Healy is well liked and has a strong base of support. Over the past month, the increased exposure Healy has enjoyed has only served to increase his favorables as well as his percentage of the ballot. Jerramiah T. Healy can win this election if he maintains his momentum and continues to increase his favorables as he has done over the past month. Conclusion: The race for Mayor of Jersey City is still competitive. However, Jerramiah T. Healy is now the leader in a narrowing field. Healy’s new found lead in the race provides crucial momentum with less than three weeks to go and a very strong opportunity to win this election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tony A....Full of himself posted Message 7779 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 10:13:47 Subject: What Idiot quotes himself? Ugh COngrats to Healy on his numbers.,... but lose the idiot Amabile. What a loser... What kind of idiot quotes himself in s press release? Only one like Amabile. : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : October 13, 2004 : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 : HEALY SURGES INTO LEAD IN JERSEY CITY MAYOR RACE : The latest poll taken in the Jersey City Mayor’s race shows that Councilman Jerramiah Healy has surged ahead and is now in first place. : The poll by McLaughlin & Associates taken on October 10 and 11 found that Healy now has 25% of the vote, Lou Manzo has 22%, Harvey Smith has 13%, Willie Flood has 11%, and Steve Lipski has 2%. : Healy’s vote has almost doubled in the last month. A September poll by the same firm had him in third place with just 13%. “Councilman Healy’s campaign clearly has the momentum at this critical point in the campaign,” said Healy Campaign Media Consultant Anthony Amabile. “It’s quickly becoming a two man race and Lou Manzo is losing ground rapidly.” : Amabile said that personal integrity is a key issue in the race and that Manzo is being hurt by his association with his Chief of Staff Gerald McCann, a convicted felon who spent three years in prison for bank fraud. “Voters who are tired of corruption and crime are choosing Jerramiah Healy, a former judge and prosecutor, to clean up Jersey City,” he said. “McCann makes people’s skin crawl.” : McLaughlin & Associates is a prominent national polling firm with extensive experience in Jersey City and New Jersey. : To: Healy for Mayor : From: McLaughlin & Associates : Re: Jersey City Executive Survey Summary : Date: October 13, 2004 : Methodology: This Jersey City, New Jersey survey was conducted among 300 likely general election voters on October 10th and 11th, 2004. All interviews were conducted by professional interviewers via telephone. Interview selection was at random within predetermined election units. These units were structured to statistically correlate with actual general election voter distributions in Jersey City. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. : Summary: The special election for Jersey City Mayor this November is seeing the field narrowed down to a few candidates. According to recent statistics, Jerramiah T. Healy has taken over the lead in the race for Mayor of Jersey City. Healy was running in 3rd in a close race with 13% of the vote on September 7th. Since then, he has gained over 11 points and now has 25% of the ballot. The other candidates are flat and not moving. : : Jerramiah T. Healy still maintains an almost a 3 to 1 (38.0% to 14.0%) favorable to unfavorable ratio. It is clear that among the voters who do have an opinion of him, Healy is well liked and has a strong base of support. Over the past month, the increased exposure Healy has enjoyed has only served to increase his favorables as well as his percentage of the ballot. Jerramiah T. Healy can win this election if he maintains his momentum and continues to increase his favorables as he has done over the past month. : Conclusion: The race for Mayor of Jersey City is still competitive. However, Jerramiah T. Healy is now the leader in a narrowing field. Healy’s new found lead in the race provides crucial momentum with less than three weeks to go and a very strong opportunity to win this election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Great posted Message 7780 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 10:24:13 Subject: Re: We need a woman like her. I'm glad that we can be civil and disagree. You're right on several points: 1-This city IS growing at a fast pace and fresh ideas are badly needed! I cannot say that I have heard any fresh ideas from Ms. Flood. I've seen her on 2 debates so far and she's failed to impress me by offering any fresh alternatives. So far, her biggest claim is that she's carrying on Cunningham's legacy. That's probably correct however, that's not a fresh idea. 2-All the candidates, including Ms. Flood have issues that needs to be given serious thought. As far as a candidate being gay...well, that does not affect office however that candidate's association with someone else is a serious red flag (IMO). 3-She might have the city's best interest at heart where the other candidates don't but she's failed to show me that. She's shown me that if she wins, she will continue what Cunningham was doing i.e. dividing the city along racial lines and giving control of Jersey City to the "brain trust". I personally don't think that we can afford to let them back in power. I do encourage you to vote which ever way you choose as I would encourage every American to vote the way that they chose. I don't agree that Ms. Flood has the fresh ideas to stop what is happening in Jersey City. I see her continueing the war with Menendez (whom I do not like) and that is her biggest liability in my opinion. Let's do keep this discussion civil and I await your response. : I beg to differ. I think that the video truck represents some fresh new Ideas. This city is growing at a fast pace and this is the kind of futuristic thinking we need to keep moving ahead. All the other candidates are either a drunk, gay, an uncle tom, a crook it's just sickning. And none of it really matters. I have NEVER heard her name in any kind of scandle. I believe she truly has the city's best intrests at heart. These other guys don't and they have proved it. She definitely has my vote and nobody can change that FACT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A View from the Heights posted Message 7781 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 10:25:48 Subject: Advise to Manzo Lou... you have done this now three times... you peak too soon and drop in the polls a couple weeks before election day. What you have failed to do each time is to pace your campaign. You come out with everything all at once instead of making good decisions on how to energize your campaign throughout the election campaign period. And all of your initiatives are old ones... nothing new. That's what happens when you recycle a bunch of old politicos to run your campaign. You should have brought in some new blood this time. You had better have another rabbit or two tucked away, or its "bye bye louie" once again. And no doubt your Assembly seat will be the next thing you surrender. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who's the clean glass? posted Message 7782 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 10:26:02 Subject: Re: If healy gets in JC will be laughing stock! He's irresponsible. They all need a good scrubbing if you ask me. : If you would vote for someone who would be that irresponsible to not remember how he got somewhere naked we are sadly out of touch. Be real, what if he does win. Jersey city will be a laughing stock. The man admitted he drank too much and didn't remember how he got somewhere naked? come on. I don't want him making decisions for me or representing the thinking of the people of this city. That's just plain juvenile. I did that in college. Wake up people. I'm not telling you who to vote for but the choice is pretty obvious. I would pick a clean glass over a dirty one anyday. Peace. Do the right thing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cover Yer A** Amabile posted Message 7783 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 10:26:58 Subject: Another Amabile Lie Amabile created this fanasty poll because of the remarks Healy made in The New York Times. Perhaps Amabile should Join Healy and the HCDO Gang and go into group Alcoholic Rehab. : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : October 13, 2004 : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 : HEALY SURGES INTO LEAD IN JERSEY CITY MAYOR RACE : The latest poll taken in the Jersey City Mayor’s race shows that Councilman Jerramiah Healy has surged ahead and is now in first place. : The poll by McLaughlin & Associates taken on October 10 and 11 found that Healy now has 25% of the vote, Lou Manzo has 22%, Harvey Smith has 13%, Willie Flood has 11%, and Steve Lipski has 2%. : Healy’s vote has almost doubled in the last month. A September poll by the same firm had him in third place with just 13%. “Councilman Healy’s campaign clearly has the momentum at this critical point in the campaign,” said Healy Campaign Media Consultant Anthony Amabile. “It’s quickly becoming a two man race and Lou Manzo is losing ground rapidly.” : Amabile said that personal integrity is a key issue in the race and that Manzo is being hurt by his association with his Chief of Staff Gerald McCann, a convicted felon who spent three years in prison for bank fraud. “Voters who are tired of corruption and crime are choosing Jerramiah Healy, a former judge and prosecutor, to clean up Jersey City,” he said. “McCann makes people’s skin crawl.” : McLaughlin & Associates is a prominent national polling firm with extensive experience in Jersey City and New Jersey. : To: Healy for Mayor : From: McLaughlin & Associates : Re: Jersey City Executive Survey Summary : Date: October 13, 2004 : Methodology: This Jersey City, New Jersey survey was conducted among 300 likely general election voters on October 10th and 11th, 2004. All interviews were conducted by professional interviewers via telephone. Interview selection was at random within predetermined election units. These units were structured to statistically correlate with actual general election voter distributions in Jersey City. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. : Summary: The special election for Jersey City Mayor this November is seeing the field narrowed down to a few candidates. According to recent statistics, Jerramiah T. Healy has taken over the lead in the race for Mayor of Jersey City. Healy was running in 3rd in a close race with 13% of the vote on September 7th. Since then, he has gained over 11 points and now has 25% of the ballot. The other candidates are flat and not moving. : : Jerramiah T. Healy still maintains an almost a 3 to 1 (38.0% to 14.0%) favorable to unfavorable ratio. It is clear that among the voters who do have an opinion of him, Healy is well liked and has a strong base of support. Over the past month, the increased exposure Healy has enjoyed has only served to increase his favorables as well as his percentage of the ballot. Jerramiah T. Healy can win this election if he maintains his momentum and continues to increase his favorables as he has done over the past month. : Conclusion: The race for Mayor of Jersey City is still competitive. However, Jerramiah T. Healy is now the leader in a narrowing field. Healy’s new found lead in the race provides crucial momentum with less than three weeks to go and a very strong opportunity to win this election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WOW posted Message 7784 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 10:37:45 Subject: Re: Healy takes the lead. So your saying a poll of only 300 people out of 130,000 registered voters in Jersey City. With a margin of error of +/- 5.6 %. That was completed in 2 days and you got the results in 4 days. Wow smells like BULL$HIT 2 me! I hope you Healy people didn’t pay for that poll. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ESL posted Message 7785 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:09:34 Subject: Sober as a judge Might someone explain this saying? ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCann posted Message 7786 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:17:49 Subject: McCann Hey people just remember Glenn Cunningham was the one that gave Gerald McCann a job for the city. Cunningham was the one that was forgiven of his past. He also thought everyone should get a second chance. People. You all need to stop this hate. Find god and fine some love in your heart. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mephistophiles posted Message 7787 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:21:14 Subject: Re: Sober as a judge : Might someone explain this saying? :::::Yes. It's a paraphrase of a biblical admonition directed toward a villain like Gerry McCann, "Judge not lest ye be judged." A more modern admonition applies as well to the unfortunate Lou Manzo,"You can tell a man who boozes by the company he chooses and the pig got up and slowly walked away". ***************** End Of Article ****************** How many chances should a person get posted Message 7788 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:23:13 Subject: Re: McCann If Cunningham were alive today, would he give Gerry a 3rd chance? I would hope not. Some people are beyond redemption. Some are worthy of a 2nd chance but not everyone is. It isn't hate that I have it's just plain disgust. : Hey people just remember Glenn Cunningham was the one that gave Gerald McCann a job for the city. Cunningham was the one that was forgiven of his past. He also thought everyone should get a second chance. People. You all need to stop this hate. Find god and fine some love in your heart. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Do the math. posted Message 7789 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:34:50 Subject: Re: If healy gets in JC will be laughing stock! He's irresponsible. All except the one I'm voting for. : They all need a good scrubbing if you ask me. : : If you would vote for someone who would be that irresponsible to not remember how he got somewhere naked we are sadly out of touch. Be real, what if he does win. Jersey city will be a laughing stock. The man admitted he drank too much and didn't remember how he got somewhere naked? come on. I don't want him making decisions for me or representing the thinking of the people of this city. That's just plain juvenile. I did that in college. Wake up people. I'm not telling you who to vote for but the choice is pretty obvious. I would pick a clean glass over a dirty one anyday. Peace. Do the right thing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** john posted Message 7790 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:41:42 Subject: Re: McCann I’m not just talking about just the hate for McCann im talking about all this hate. In this chat room. You should all be ashamed of yourselves all you read is this one is gay this one is a drunk and so on… Me personally. I don’t like McCann! But im not going to take it out on Manzo. Lou is a good man and will do a good job as Mayor as he has as freeholder and now as Assemblyman. ***************** End Of Article ****************** One might also say posted Message 7791 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:45:33 Subject: Re: Sober as a judge :::That the pot is calling the kettle black is pretty funny as Jerry Healy, a former judge, has more than a small liking for alcohol. As for "You can tell a man who boozes by the company he chooses and the pig got up and slowly walked away." Well, let's examine Mr. Healy's friends - Bill Gaughan, Tom DeGise, Jimmy DICKson, Buddy Demlier. : : Might someone explain this saying? : :::::Yes. It's a paraphrase of a biblical admonition directed toward a villain like Gerry McCann, "Judge not lest ye be judged." A more modern admonition applies as well to the unfortunate Lou Manzo,"You can tell a man who boozes by the company he chooses and the pig got up and slowly walked away". ***************** End Of Article ****************** These are just a few facts. posted Message 7792 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:49:29 Subject: Re: We need a woman like her. Well, I agree. Glenn laid the blueprint on how this city should be run. Mrs. Flood is her own woman with her own way of doing things. Mrs Flood has alot of the same views as far as building the city up. Putting the power into the hands of the residents and Saving the children who are lost. The crime is another issue. Mrs. Flood is 64 so she understands that seniors and everyone else for that fact needs to be able to walk the streets without worring about someone mugging or hurting them. When Glenn was alive there were fewer violent crimes and fewer people hanging out on the streets. When he passed it went right back to the way it was. Innocent people getting killed with stray bullets and so many young people getting shot and killed. This is no way to live. She lives in Ward F on one of the worst streets in that area. Forrest st off of MLK. I commend her for that. She has lived there for years. And I dont see her trying to move. So she can really connect with the people who really don't have a voice. I respect that. She does have alot of fresh Ideas but I don't think she wants to let the cat out of the bag yet. These are her Ideas. I saw the list. I just ask that you consider the facts. Thanx for your civil opinion. I wasn't offended not one bit. Peace. : I'm glad that we can be civil and disagree. : You're right on several points: : 1-This city IS growing at a fast pace and fresh ideas are badly needed! I cannot say that I have heard any fresh ideas from Ms. Flood. I've seen her on 2 debates so far and she's failed to impress me by offering any fresh alternatives. So far, her biggest claim is that she's carrying on Cunningham's legacy. That's probably correct however, that's not a fresh idea. : 2-All the candidates, including Ms. Flood have issues that needs to be given serious thought. As far as a candidate being gay...well, that does not affect office however that candidate's association with someone else is a serious red flag (IMO). : 3-She might have the city's best interest at heart where the other candidates don't but she's failed to show me that. She's shown me that if she wins, she will continue what Cunningham was doing i.e. dividing the city along racial lines and giving control of Jersey City to the "brain trust". I personally don't think that we can afford to let them back in power. : I do encourage you to vote which ever way you choose as I would encourage every American to vote the way that they chose. I don't agree that Ms. Flood has the fresh ideas to stop what is happening in Jersey City. I see her continueing the war with Menendez (whom I do not like) and that is her biggest liability in my opinion. : Let's do keep this discussion civil and I await your response. : : I beg to differ. I think that the video truck represents some fresh new Ideas. This city is growing at a fast pace and this is the kind of futuristic thinking we need to keep moving ahead. All the other candidates are either a drunk, gay, an uncle tom, a crook it's just sickning. And none of it really matters. I have NEVER heard her name in any kind of scandle. I believe she truly has the city's best intrests at heart. These other guys don't and they have proved it. She definitely has my vote and nobody can change that FACT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The incredible truth posted Message 7793 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:50:42 Subject: Healy is drunk, naked and stupid I can't wait until this is on network news. ***************** End Of Article ****************** is gay posted Message 7794 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:53:10 Subject: Tony Amabile He is stealing every penny from thne Healy campaign. Take a look at his elec reports. Tony Amabile is one gay bastard. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Staunch Willie Supporter posted Message 7795 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:54:49 Subject: Willie Flood is the clean glass. If not then PROVE it with HARD EVIDENCE not opinions.. : They all need a good scrubbing if you ask me. : : If you would vote for someone who would be that irresponsible to not remember how he got somewhere naked we are sadly out of touch. Be real, what if he does win. Jersey city will be a laughing stock. The man admitted he drank too much and didn't remember how he got somewhere naked? come on. I don't want him making decisions for me or representing the thinking of the people of this city. That's just plain juvenile. I did that in college. Wake up people. I'm not telling you who to vote for but the choice is pretty obvious. I would pick a clean glass over a dirty one anyday. Peace. Do the right thing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Guido posted Message 7796 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:56:45 Subject: MANZO CAN FUGHETABOUTIT!!!!!!!!!! He dropped the soap too many times. Enough is enough!! : Lou... you have done this now three times... you peak too soon and drop in the polls a couple weeks before election day. What you have failed to do each time is to pace your campaign. You come out with everything all at once instead of making good decisions on how to energize your campaign throughout the election campaign period. And all of your initiatives are old ones... nothing new. : That's what happens when you recycle a bunch of old politicos to run your campaign. You should have brought in some new blood this time. You had better have another rabbit or two tucked away, or its "bye bye louie" once again. And no doubt your Assembly seat will be the next thing you surrender. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Voice of Reason posted Message 7797 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 11:59:07 Subject: If GOD came today and had to pick a candidate who would he chose? Be serious. I am just curious what the people think. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Indeed posted Message 7798 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:02:51 Subject: Re: Willie Flood has the BEST truck! First of all it is illegal to use another candidate's money for election funds. Second of all you have no proof to go with this stupid allegation. Grow up. : If Willie Flood can give us a truck that plays movies, then we know what happened to Cunningham's warchest. : Honey, there's a lot more to running a city than providing a truck with tacky screens on it. I really feel sorry for you if you actually believe what you wrote. : : If Willie Flood can give us a Truck that plays movies on all the sides, she can sure as hell fix this city! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reform Democratic Committee of Jersey City posted Message 7799 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:07:11 Subject: REQUEST FOR ELECTION MONITORS REQUEST FOR ELECTION MONITORS Christie needs to know what happened in 1985 elections Jersey City, NJ - Kim B. Greene, Ward F Leader of the Reform Democratic Committee of Jersey City and Standard Bearer of the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, has sent US Attorney Christopher Christie a letter requesting that he provide election monitors to oversee the Jersey City polling places during the special November election. Why? Gerald McCann is Assemblyman Louis Manzo's campaign manager and it is reported that the Manzo/McCann team intends to use similar tactics as in 1985 to encourage the minority voters from voting on Election Day. "On behalf of the residents of Jersey City and especially the minority voting community, I would like to request that you provide election monitors to oversee polling activities for the special election on November 2, 2004 at all polling places in Jersey City," said Greene in his letter to Christie. In 1985, Gerald McCann ran for the office of Mayor and during that election, he encouraged his election workers to use various tactics that infringed upon the voting rights of many African American voters. He and his political allies prevented and delayed numerous voters from casting their vote for the candidate of their choice. They were charged with disenfranchising the minority vote. "We do not want history to repeat itself since Gerald McCann is the campaign manager for Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who is running for Mayor. We are concerned that the Manzo/McCann team intends to use every ploy to ensure a victory for Manzo, including intimidation against voters," stated Greene. "It is our hope that on Election Day, November 2, 2004, The US Attorney's Office will do everything in their power to ensure the residents of Jersey City an opportunity to cast their vote for the candidates of their choice without the fear of their civil rights being violated. Let's not have another election stolen by a candidate that allows the voters to be disenfranchised. Don't allow what happened in Florida to happen in New Jersey." ***************** End Of Article ****************** FFR posted Message 7800 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:12:08 Subject: Healy Poll : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : October 13, 2004 : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 : HEALY SURGES INTO LEAD IN JERSEY CITY DRINKING RACE : The latest poll taken in the Jersey City Mayor’s race shows that Councilman Jerramiah Healy has surged ahead and is now in first place in the drinking contest.. : The poll by McLaughlin & Associates taken on October 10 and 11 found that Healy has drank 68 beers and Harvey Smith is just plain stupid. : Healy’s drinking has doubled in the last month. A September poll by the same firm had him drinking 30 to 40 beers an hour now he is up to 85 beers an hour. “Councilman Healy’s campaign clearly has the momentum at this critical point in the until the naked and drunk pictures are released. Tony Amabile has said he is gay and he loves to smoke the peni$. : Amabile said that personal integrity is a key issue in the race and that Manzo is being hurt by his association with Gerald McCann. He also said that when Gerry McCann ran Tom Degise's campaign McCann did not effect Tom Debgise . For some strange reason McCann only effects Lou Manzo. “Voters who are tired of corruption and crime are choosing Lou Manzo to clean up Jersey City,” he said. “McCann has a nice ass and I like to get in his pants" said Amabile. : Tony Amabile & Associates are a prominent national polling firm with extensive experience in smoking peni$ in Jersey City : To: Healy for Drinking gasoline : From: McLaughlin & Associates : Re: Jersey City Executive Survey Summary : Date: October 13, 2004 : Methodology: This Jersey City, New Jersey survey was conducted among 300 likely general election voters on October 10th and 11th, 2004 and Tony Amabile blew everyone he interviewed. All interviews were conducted by professional interviewers via telephone. Interview selection was at random within predetermined election units. These units were structured to statistically correlate with actual general election voter distributions in Jersey City. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. ***************** End Of Article ****************** be fair posted Message 7801 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:12:36 Subject: Re: Sober as a judge : :::That the pot is calling the kettle black is pretty funny as Jerry Healy, a former judge, has more than a small liking for alcohol. As for "You can tell a man who boozes by the company he chooses and the pig got up and slowly walked away." Well, let's examine Mr. Healy's friends - Bill Gaughan, Tom DeGise, Jimmy DICKson, Buddy Demlier. : : : Might someone explain this saying? : : :::::Yes. It's a paraphrase of a biblical admonition directed toward a villain like Gerry McCann, "Judge not lest ye be judged." A more modern admonition applies as well to the unfortunate Lou Manzo,"You can tell a man who boozes by the company he chooses and the pig got up and slowly walked away". :::::::The others may have their problems but be fair. You can't elevate a bottom feeding, drugged out derelict like Dickson to their level. He is tolerated only because no one will tell Gaughan to keep his son in law away from them. He will cost Healy a lot of votes. He tried to work for Manzo last time around but even that crew rejected him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well Written, but..... posted Message 7802 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:13:30 Subject: Re: McCann I completely agree with you about a lot of what you say here. The hate and BS name calling has to stop. Its degrading to the people who visit this site and who participate, or try to participate in the process here. But you have to remember a few things before you seek to convert us to Manzo supporters. Manzo is not only giving Gerry another chance, he is relying on him to do the dirty work in his campaign. Those "revealing" Healy pix...are McCann's doing. Not what I would call a stand-up campaign maneauver. And the divisive dialog driving a wedge between parts of our City.... that's McCann too. Remember...he was the one nailed by the courts for trying to supress the black vote back in 89. And if he had the chance today...he'd do it again. Its cool to give someone another chance if that person has changed his ways. But Gerry is the same old Gerry. And Louie is now crawling into the mud by letting McCann run the "Dirty Ops" part of his campaign. I judge people by who they choose as allies. So McCann's dirt is Manzo's dirt. No two ways about it. And this time it will cost Manzo the Mayor's race, and probably his Assembly next year. : I’m not just talking about just the hate for McCann im talking about all this hate. In this chat room. You should all be ashamed of yourselves all you read is this one is gay this one is a drunk and so on… Me personally. I don’t like McCann! But im not going to take it out on Manzo. Lou is a good man and will do a good job as Mayor as he has as freeholder and now as Assemblyman. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy is a Loser posted Message 7803 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:13:34 Subject: Healy is a drunk naked stupid wife beater Just inquire in Bradley Beach. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Disgusted posted Message 7804 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:16:46 Subject: Another Pathetic Spin Grow up people. You can do better than this piece of amateaur trash. Or maybe this is the best you Manzo people can do. : : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : : October 13, 2004 : : : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 : : HEALY SURGES INTO LEAD IN JERSEY CITY DRINKING RACE : : The latest poll taken in the Jersey City Mayor’s race shows that Councilman Jerramiah Healy has surged ahead and is now in first place in the drinking contest.. : : The poll by McLaughlin & Associates taken on October 10 and 11 found that Healy has drank 68 beers and Harvey Smith is just plain stupid. : : Healy’s drinking has doubled in the last month. A September poll by the same firm had him drinking 30 to 40 beers an hour now he is up to 85 beers an hour. “Councilman Healy’s campaign clearly has the momentum at this critical point in the until the naked and drunk pictures are released. Tony Amabile has said he is gay and he loves to smoke the peni$. : : Amabile said that personal integrity is a key issue in the race and that Manzo is being hurt by his association with Gerald McCann. He also said that when Gerry McCann ran Tom Degise's campaign McCann did not effect Tom Debgise . For some strange reason McCann only effects Lou Manzo. “Voters who are tired of corruption and crime are choosing Lou Manzo to clean up Jersey City,” he said. “McCann has a nice ass and I like to get in his pants" said Amabile. : : Tony Amabile & Associates are a prominent national polling firm with extensive experience in smoking peni$ in Jersey City : : To: Healy for Drinking gasoline : : From: McLaughlin & Associates : : Re: Jersey City Executive Survey Summary : : Date: October 13, 2004 : : Methodology: This Jersey City, New Jersey survey was conducted among 300 likely general election voters on October 10th and 11th, 2004 and Tony Amabile blew everyone he interviewed. All interviews were conducted by professional interviewers via telephone. Interview selection was at random within predetermined election units. These units were structured to statistically correlate with actual general election voter distributions in Jersey City. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo is a loser with no issues posted Message 7805 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:18:24 Subject: Get a Brain You see...this is the problem with allowing people with the intelligence of a kangaroo access to a computer. But its become typical of Manzo's people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amen!!!! posted Message 7806 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:19:07 Subject: Exactly what we need!!!! : REQUEST FOR ELECTION MONITORS : Christie needs to know what happened in 1985 elections : Jersey City, NJ - Kim B. Greene, Ward F Leader of the Reform Democratic Committee of Jersey City and Standard Bearer of the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, has sent US Attorney Christopher Christie a letter requesting that he provide election monitors to oversee the Jersey City polling places during the special November election. Why? : Gerald McCann is Assemblyman Louis Manzo's campaign manager and it is reported that the Manzo/McCann team intends to use similar tactics as in 1985 to encourage the minority voters from voting on Election Day. : "On behalf of the residents of Jersey City and especially the minority voting community, I would like to request that you provide election monitors to oversee polling activities for the special election on November 2, 2004 at all polling places in Jersey City," said Greene in his letter to Christie. : In 1985, Gerald McCann ran for the office of Mayor and during that election, he encouraged his election workers to use various tactics that infringed upon the voting rights of many African American voters. He and his political allies prevented and delayed numerous voters from casting their vote for the candidate of their choice. They were charged with disenfranchising the minority vote. : "We do not want history to repeat itself since Gerald McCann is the campaign manager for Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who is running for Mayor. We are concerned that the Manzo/McCann team intends to use every ploy to ensure a victory for Manzo, including intimidation against voters," stated Greene. "It is our hope that on Election Day, November 2, 2004, The US Attorney's Office will do everything in their power to ensure the residents of Jersey City an opportunity to cast their vote for the candidates of their choice without the fear of their civil rights being violated. Let's not have another election stolen by a candidate that allows the voters to be disenfranchised. Don't allow what happened in Florida to happen in New Jersey." ***************** End Of Article ****************** My View posted Message 7807 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:20:18 Subject: Willie Flood would be the choice Its unfortunate Willie can't win this race, she may not be the best politician, nor the best leadser. But she is by far the best person running. She has a moral grounding and she has faith in people. : I am just curious what the people think. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amabile A hole posted Message 7808 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:22:15 Subject: Re: Healy still in 3rd. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. So this means Lou Manzo is ahead by 8 points as Amabile has already gave Jerry Healy the 5.6 % margin of error in his #. : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : October 13, 2004 : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 : HEALY SURGES INTO LEAD IN JERSEY CITY MAYOR RACE : The latest poll taken in the Jersey City Mayor’s race shows that Councilman Jerramiah Healy has surged ahead and is now in first place. : The poll by McLaughlin & Associates taken on October 10 and 11 found that Healy now has 25% of the vote, Lou Manzo has 22%, Harvey Smith has 13%, Willie Flood has 11%, and Steve Lipski has 2%. : Healy’s vote has almost doubled in the last month. A September poll by the same firm had him in third place with just 13%. “Councilman Healy’s campaign clearly has the momentum at this critical point in the campaign,” said Healy Campaign Media Consultant Anthony Amabile. “It’s quickly becoming a two man race and Lou Manzo is losing ground rapidly.” : Amabile said that personal integrity is a key issue in the race and that Manzo is being hurt by his association with his Chief of Staff Gerald McCann, a convicted felon who spent three years in prison for bank fraud. “Voters who are tired of corruption and crime are choosing Jerramiah Healy, a former judge and prosecutor, to clean up Jersey City,” he said. “McCann makes people’s skin crawl.” : McLaughlin & Associates is a prominent national polling firm with extensive experience in Jersey City and New Jersey. : To: Healy for Mayor : From: McLaughlin & Associates : Re: Jersey City Executive Survey Summary : Date: October 13, 2004 : Methodology: This Jersey City, New Jersey survey was conducted among 300 likely general election voters on October 10th and 11th, 2004. All interviews were conducted by professional interviewers via telephone. Interview selection was at random within predetermined election units. These units were structured to statistically correlate with actual general election voter distributions in Jersey City. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. : Summary: The special election for Jersey City Mayor this November is seeing the field narrowed down to a few candidates. According to recent statistics, Jerramiah T. Healy has taken over the lead in the race for Mayor of Jersey City. Healy was running in 3rd in a close race with 13% of the vote on September 7th. Since then, he has gained over 11 points and now has 25% of the ballot. The other candidates are flat and not moving. : : Jerramiah T. Healy still maintains an almost a 3 to 1 (38.0% to 14.0%) favorable to unfavorable ratio. It is clear that among the voters who do have an opinion of him, Healy is well liked and has a strong base of support. Over the past month, the increased exposure Healy has enjoyed has only served to increase his favorables as well as his percentage of the ballot. Jerramiah T. Healy can win this election if he maintains his momentum and continues to increase his favorables as he has done over the past month. : Conclusion: The race for Mayor of Jersey City is still competitive. However, Jerramiah T. Healy is now the leader in a narrowing field. Healy’s new found lead in the race provides crucial momentum with less than three weeks to go and a very strong opportunity to win this election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watch out for false polls posted Message 7809 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:23:49 Subject: Amabile is a Useless POS Tony Amabile is so far out of his league its laughable. This hack belongs in some back-water town in Alabama running a ponzi game, not here running the PR for a campaign. He's full of crap and has no talent. Anyone who hires this loser is out of their mind. He has nothing to offer but spin. And most of the time he can't even spin himself out of a bath towel. : So your saying a poll of only 300 people out of 130,000 registered voters in Jersey City. With a margin of error : of +/- 5.6 %. That was completed in 2 days and you got the results in 4 days. Wow smells like BULL$HIT 2 me! I hope you Healy people didn’t pay for that poll. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Banker posted Message 7810 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:25:21 Subject: AMABILE - Cash your check and shut up Amabile you are a vile POS. Just cash your Healy campaign check an d slither away. You dsisgust me. : He is stealing every penny from thne Healy campaign. Take a look at his elec reports. Tony Amabile is one gay bastard. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey Smith fur mayer!! posted Message 7811 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:27:12 Subject: Both of them are losers Harvey id the best candadate. He is gonna kick yall a$$es!! : Just inquire in Bradley Beach. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amabile is DIRT posted Message 7812 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:28:26 Subject: Amabile is a rip-off....wise up Jerry Amnbile charges thousands of dollars for a poll that his biatch Spinelli will conduct by calling her friends over the weekend. He's the biggest scam in HC and has been discreditied for years. No one with any brains would hire this guy. : The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. So this means Lou Manzo is ahead by 8 points as Amabile has already gave Jerry Healy the 5.6 % margin of error in his #. : : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : : October 13, 2004 : : : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 : : HEALY SURGES INTO LEAD IN JERSEY CITY MAYOR RACE : : The latest poll taken in the Jersey City Mayor’s race shows that Councilman Jerramiah Healy has surged ahead and is now in first place. : : The poll by McLaughlin & Associates taken on October 10 and 11 found that Healy now has 25% of the vote, Lou Manzo has 22%, Harvey Smith has 13%, Willie Flood has 11%, and Steve Lipski has 2%. : : Healy’s vote has almost doubled in the last month. A September poll by the same firm had him in third place with just 13%. “Councilman Healy’s campaign clearly has the momentum at this critical point in the campaign,” said Healy Campaign Media Consultant Anthony Amabile. “It’s quickly becoming a two man race and Lou Manzo is losing ground rapidly.” : : Amabile said that personal integrity is a key issue in the race and that Manzo is being hurt by his association with his Chief of Staff Gerald McCann, a convicted felon who spent three years in prison for bank fraud. “Voters who are tired of corruption and crime are choosing Jerramiah Healy, a former judge and prosecutor, to clean up Jersey City,” he said. “McCann makes people’s skin crawl.” : : McLaughlin & Associates is a prominent national polling firm with extensive experience in Jersey City and New Jersey. : : To: Healy for Mayor : : From: McLaughlin & Associates : : Re: Jersey City Executive Survey Summary : : Date: October 13, 2004 : : Methodology: This Jersey City, New Jersey survey was conducted among 300 likely general election voters on October 10th and 11th, 2004. All interviews were conducted by professional interviewers via telephone. Interview selection was at random within predetermined election units. These units were structured to statistically correlate with actual general election voter distributions in Jersey City. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. : : Summary: The special election for Jersey City Mayor this November is seeing the field narrowed down to a few candidates. According to recent statistics, Jerramiah T. Healy has taken over the lead in the race for Mayor of Jersey City. Healy was running in 3rd in a close race with 13% of the vote on September 7th. Since then, he has gained over 11 points and now has 25% of the ballot. The other candidates are flat and not moving. : : : : Jerramiah T. Healy still maintains an almost a 3 to 1 (38.0% to 14.0%) favorable to unfavorable ratio. It is clear that among the voters who do have an opinion of him, Healy is well liked and has a strong base of support. Over the past month, the increased exposure Healy has enjoyed has only served to increase his favorables as well as his percentage of the ballot. Jerramiah T. Healy can win this election if he maintains his momentum and continues to increase his favorables as he has done over the past month. : : Conclusion: The race for Mayor of Jersey City is still competitive. However, Jerramiah T. Healy is now the leader in a narrowing field. Healy’s new found lead in the race provides crucial momentum with less than three weeks to go and a very strong opportunity to win this election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Awe Schucks... posted Message 7813 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:31:01 Subject: Re: Spelling lesson. 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I don't trust this guy for one second! : : REQUEST FOR ELECTION MONITORS : : Christie needs to know what happened in 1985 elections : : Jersey City, NJ - Kim B. Greene, Ward F Leader of the Reform Democratic Committee of Jersey City and Standard Bearer of the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, has sent US Attorney Christopher Christie a letter requesting that he provide election monitors to oversee the Jersey City polling places during the special November election. Why? : : Gerald McCann is Assemblyman Louis Manzo's campaign manager and it is reported that the Manzo/McCann team intends to use similar tactics as in 1985 to encourage the minority voters from voting on Election Day. : : "On behalf of the residents of Jersey City and especially the minority voting community, I would like to request that you provide election monitors to oversee polling activities for the special election on November 2, 2004 at all polling places in Jersey City," said Greene in his letter to Christie. : : In 1985, Gerald McCann ran for the office of Mayor and during that election, he encouraged his election workers to use various tactics that infringed upon the voting rights of many African American voters. He and his political allies prevented and delayed numerous voters from casting their vote for the candidate of their choice. They were charged with disenfranchising the minority vote. : : "We do not want history to repeat itself since Gerald McCann is the campaign manager for Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who is running for Mayor. We are concerned that the Manzo/McCann team intends to use every ploy to ensure a victory for Manzo, including intimidation against voters," stated Greene. "It is our hope that on Election Day, November 2, 2004, The US Attorney's Office will do everything in their power to ensure the residents of Jersey City an opportunity to cast their vote for the candidates of their choice without the fear of their civil rights being violated. Let's not have another election stolen by a candidate that allows the voters to be disenfranchised. Don't allow what happened in Florida to happen in New Jersey." ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Admits He Was Drunk and Nude and His Poll Numbers Go Up? posted Message 7816 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:41:58 Subject: Re: Another Amabile Lie TOny, do you think anybody but your ho belives these numbers? You must be downing more beer than Healy. Do you think Healy will 'surge' when his nude picture is published next week? Hah? : Amabile created this fanasty poll because of the remarks Healy made in The New York Times. : Perhaps Amabile should Join Healy and the HCDO Gang and go into group Alcoholic Rehab. : : : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : : October 13, 2004 : : : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 : : HEALY SURGES INTO LEAD IN JERSEY CITY MAYOR RACE : : The latest poll taken in the Jersey City Mayor’s race shows that Councilman Jerramiah Healy has surged ahead and is now in first place. : : The poll by McLaughlin & Associates taken on October 10 and 11 found that Healy now has 25% of the vote, Lou Manzo has 22%, Harvey Smith has 13%, Willie Flood has 11%, and Steve Lipski has 2%. : : Healy’s vote has almost doubled in the last month. A September poll by the same firm had him in third place with just 13%. “Councilman Healy’s campaign clearly has the momentum at this critical point in the campaign,” said Healy Campaign Media Consultant Anthony Amabile. “It’s quickly becoming a two man race and Lou Manzo is losing ground rapidly.” : : Amabile said that personal integrity is a key issue in the race and that Manzo is being hurt by his association with his Chief of Staff Gerald McCann, a convicted felon who spent three years in prison for bank fraud. “Voters who are tired of corruption and crime are choosing Jerramiah Healy, a former judge and prosecutor, to clean up Jersey City,” he said. “McCann makes people’s skin crawl.” : : McLaughlin & Associates is a prominent national polling firm with extensive experience in Jersey City and New Jersey. : : To: Healy for Mayor : : From: McLaughlin & Associates : : Re: Jersey City Executive Survey Summary : : Date: October 13, 2004 : : Methodology: This Jersey City, New Jersey survey was conducted among 300 likely general election voters on October 10th and 11th, 2004. All interviews were conducted by professional interviewers via telephone. Interview selection was at random within predetermined election units. These units were structured to statistically correlate with actual general election voter distributions in Jersey City. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. : : Summary: The special election for Jersey City Mayor this November is seeing the field narrowed down to a few candidates. According to recent statistics, Jerramiah T. Healy has taken over the lead in the race for Mayor of Jersey City. Healy was running in 3rd in a close race with 13% of the vote on September 7th. Since then, he has gained over 11 points and now has 25% of the ballot. The other candidates are flat and not moving. : : : : Jerramiah T. Healy still maintains an almost a 3 to 1 (38.0% to 14.0%) favorable to unfavorable ratio. It is clear that among the voters who do have an opinion of him, Healy is well liked and has a strong base of support. Over the past month, the increased exposure Healy has enjoyed has only served to increase his favorables as well as his percentage of the ballot. Jerramiah T. Healy can win this election if he maintains his momentum and continues to increase his favorables as he has done over the past month. : : Conclusion: The race for Mayor of Jersey City is still competitive. However, Jerramiah T. Healy is now the leader in a narrowing field. Healy’s new found lead in the race provides crucial momentum with less than three weeks to go and a very strong opportunity to win this election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glad to Help posted Message 7817 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:45:09 Subject: Re: Some numbers please 1 out of 3 people think Tony Amabile is slime. : Now that we have determined that everyone in Jersey City is either Gay, drunk, pathetic, a loser, a rip-off, or some other variety of low life.... does anyone have some real numbers to share.... not just spin? ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Will Install More BAthrooms If Elected! posted Message 7818 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:46:30 Subject: Re: HEALY PI$$-ING ALL OVER CITY To accomdate his need to relieve himself every 15 minutes Jerry will install over 500 bathrooms throughout the city to avoid the need to do it in the street, or in resident flower beds. : : bye; gerry :bye; louie: GOOD GOVERMENT WIN'SSS WE LOVE YOU HEALY GO GOOD GOVERMENT!!!!!!!!!! NOW TAKE THAT mcann SEE YOU ON HUTTON ST. REMBER THE ELK'S WE DO'''''' SEE YOU 11/3/04 U R DONE ************ TRUST ME U R DONE*********** BYE ; BYE; ***************** End Of Article ****************** Okay posted Message 7819 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:48:15 Subject: Re: We need a woman like her. Your maturity in your response shows thru and I have to commend you for being mature and not just slamming and slinging mud. Glenn was a good man but he was surrounded by people who cared little to nothing about him and less about Jersey City. These people, whom I refer to as the "brain trust" did their very best to create strife in the city (IMO). I agree with putting the power into the hands of residents but in order to do that, any candidate must foster a sense of "inclusiveness". Calling Harvey Smith an Uncle Tom does not do that. That may well be your or Ms. Flood's opinion of him but that should be kept as a private thought and not aired because all it does is to work against her. I have my own unfavourable opinion of Mr. Smith but he is, in fact, the mayor and deserves some modicum of respect if nothing else for the position that he holds. Saving lost children isn't for the city to do. It's for the parents of the lost children. We as a nation need to stop trying to keep people from hurting themselves...if they are hell-bent on doing it, they're gonna do it no matter what we do. On crime, under Cunningham, while Ward F got lots of needed attention, the rest of us were pillaged by the criminals that were displaced from Ward F. I live not very far from MLK and Forest and I can attest to the rise in drug activity, shootings, criminal activity that went up where I live while it declined a few blocks south of me. This was not the holistic approach that Jersey City needed nor needs now. I had a big increase in all the things that you say decreased under Cunningham. As far as her not wanting to air her fresh ideas, that's what we need to have happen. If the candidates had no choice but to discuss issues and how to resolve them, this city would be in a much better place. I want to hear the ideas from Ms. Flood and all the candidates, not just in this election but in all future ones as well. : Well, I agree. Glenn laid the blueprint on how this city should be run. Mrs. Flood is her own woman with her own way of doing things. Mrs Flood has alot of the same views as far as building the city up. Putting the power into the hands of the residents and Saving the children who are lost. The crime is another issue. Mrs. Flood is 64 so she understands that seniors and everyone else for that fact needs to be able to walk the streets without worring about someone mugging or hurting them. When Glenn was alive there were fewer violent crimes and fewer people hanging out on the streets. When he passed it went right back to the way it was. Innocent people getting killed with stray bullets and so many young people getting shot and killed. This is no way to live. She lives in Ward F on one of the worst streets in that area. Forrest st off of MLK. I commend her for that. She has lived there for years. And I dont see her trying to move. So she can really connect with the people who really don't have a voice. I respect that. She does have alot of fresh Ideas but I don't think she wants to let the cat out of the bag yet. These are her Ideas. I saw the list. I just ask that you consider the facts. Thanx for your civil opinion. I wasn't offended not one bit. Peace. : : : I'm glad that we can be civil and disagree. : : You're right on several points: : : 1-This city IS growing at a fast pace and fresh ideas are badly needed! I cannot say that I have heard any fresh ideas from Ms. Flood. I've seen her on 2 debates so far and she's failed to impress me by offering any fresh alternatives. So far, her biggest claim is that she's carrying on Cunningham's legacy. That's probably correct however, that's not a fresh idea. : : 2-All the candidates, including Ms. Flood have issues that needs to be given serious thought. As far as a candidate being gay...well, that does not affect office however that candidate's association with someone else is a serious red flag (IMO). : : 3-She might have the city's best interest at heart where the other candidates don't but she's failed to show me that. She's shown me that if she wins, she will continue what Cunningham was doing i.e. dividing the city along racial lines and giving control of Jersey City to the "brain trust". I personally don't think that we can afford to let them back in power. : : I do encourage you to vote which ever way you choose as I would encourage every American to vote the way that they chose. I don't agree that Ms. Flood has the fresh ideas to stop what is happening in Jersey City. I see her continueing the war with Menendez (whom I do not like) and that is her biggest liability in my opinion. : : Let's do keep this discussion civil and I await your response. : : : I beg to differ. I think that the video truck represents some fresh new Ideas. This city is growing at a fast pace and this is the kind of futuristic thinking we need to keep moving ahead. All the other candidates are either a drunk, gay, an uncle tom, a crook it's just sickning. And none of it really matters. I have NEVER heard her name in any kind of scandle. I believe she truly has the city's best intrests at heart. These other guys don't and they have proved it. She definitely has my vote and nobody can change that FACT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** iron posted Message 7820 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:50:37 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile is 100% gay : Now that we have determined that everyone in Jersey City is either Gay, drunk, pathetic, a loser, a rip-off, or some other variety of low life.... does anyone have some real numbers to share.... not just spin? ***************** End Of Article ****************** I might ask the same of you posted Message 7821 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 12:51:43 Subject: Re: Willie Flood is the clean glass. If not then PROVE it with HARD EVIDENCE not opinions.. Your opinion is that she's a clean glass...I only ask for proof. Even clean glasses have spots. : : They all need a good scrubbing if you ask me. : : : If you would vote for someone who would be that irresponsible to not remember how he got somewhere naked we are sadly out of touch. Be real, what if he does win. Jersey city will be a laughing stock. The man admitted he drank too much and didn't remember how he got somewhere naked? come on. I don't want him making decisions for me or representing the thinking of the people of this city. That's just plain juvenile. I did that in college. Wake up people. I'm not telling you who to vote for but the choice is pretty obvious. I would pick a clean glass over a dirty one anyday. Peace. Do the right thing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Very eloquent post posted Message 7822 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 13:00:08 Subject: Re: McCann I would add only one thing to it. As Gerry McCann has supposedly "paid his debt to society" as Mayor Smith recent put it at a debate, it would only stand to reason that McCann would be sorry for his actions and would find the inner peace to not continue doing things the way he did them in the past. His current efforts with the supposed photo shows that he might have served time but he has not really "paid his debt to society". I submit for your opinion that he is sorry that he got caught but not sorry for the crime he committed. His continuing mis-deeds show that he will continue to hit below the belt without blinking an eye so I can only surmise if put into a position of public trust, he would violate it without a second thought. : I completely agree with you about a lot of what you say here. The hate and BS name calling has to stop. Its degrading to the people who visit this site and who participate, or try to participate in the process here. But you have to remember a few things before you seek to convert us to Manzo supporters. : Manzo is not only giving Gerry another chance, he is relying on him to do the dirty work in his campaign. Those "revealing" Healy pix...are McCann's doing. Not what I would call a stand-up campaign maneauver. And the divisive dialog driving a wedge between parts of our City.... that's McCann too. Remember...he was the one nailed by the courts for trying to supress the black vote back in 89. And if he had the chance today...he'd do it again. : Its cool to give someone another chance if that person has changed his ways. But Gerry is the same old Gerry. And Louie is now crawling into the mud by letting McCann run the "Dirty Ops" part of his campaign. : I judge people by who they choose as allies. So McCann's dirt is Manzo's dirt. No two ways about it. And this time it will cost Manzo the Mayor's race, and probably his Assembly next year. : : I’m not just talking about just the hate for McCann im talking about all this hate. In this chat room. You should all be ashamed of yourselves all you read is this one is gay this one is a drunk and so on… Me personally. I don’t like McCann! But im not going to take it out on Manzo. Lou is a good man and will do a good job as Mayor as he has as freeholder and now as Assemblyman. ***************** End Of Article ****************** My opinion posted Message 7823 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 13:02:57 Subject: Re: If GOD came today and had to pick a candidate who would he chose? Be serious. If G-d were so interested in Jersey City or Hudson County politics that he were to pick a candidate, I think that he would wipe them all out and start over. Thanks for the great question though. : I am just curious what the people think. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well Written and agreed posted Message 7824 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 13:15:52 Subject: Re: McCann Its a bit shameful that Gerry never did admit guilt to any of the 18 counts that put him behind bars. He denied his guilt right to the end of his trial, through his sentencing, through his incarceration, and now that he's out..its the same old Gerry. I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks...like honesty, fair play, and most of all..integrity. And the greater the role McCann has in Manzo's Assembly Office and now his campaign, the less respect I have for Lou Manzo. But then.... Healy has McCann's old Chief of Staff Buddy Demellier working for him. And no one can tell me that Demellier isn't cut from the same cloth as McCann. So where do we look for leadership in this town? Harvey has failed us. Lipsky.... well he's just Lipsky. And Willie...lacks leadership qualities. What do we have to do to find new blood in JC? : I would add only one thing to it. As Gerry McCann has supposedly "paid his debt to society" as Mayor Smith recent put it at a debate, it would only stand to reason that McCann would be sorry for his actions and would find the inner peace to not continue doing things the way he did them in the past. His current efforts with the supposed photo shows that he might have served time but he has not really "paid his debt to society". I submit for your opinion that he is sorry that he got caught but not sorry for the crime he committed. His continuing mis-deeds show that he will continue to hit below the belt without blinking an eye so I can only surmise if put into a position of public trust, he would violate it without a second thought. : : I completely agree with you about a lot of what you say here. The hate and BS name calling has to stop. Its degrading to the people who visit this site and who participate, or try to participate in the process here. But you have to remember a few things before you seek to convert us to Manzo supporters. : : Manzo is not only giving Gerry another chance, he is relying on him to do the dirty work in his campaign. Those "revealing" Healy pix...are McCann's doing. Not what I would call a stand-up campaign maneauver. And the divisive dialog driving a wedge between parts of our City.... that's McCann too. Remember...he was the one nailed by the courts for trying to supress the black vote back in 89. And if he had the chance today...he'd do it again. : : Its cool to give someone another chance if that person has changed his ways. But Gerry is the same old Gerry. And Louie is now crawling into the mud by letting McCann run the "Dirty Ops" part of his campaign. : : I judge people by who they choose as allies. So McCann's dirt is Manzo's dirt. No two ways about it. And this time it will cost Manzo the Mayor's race, and probably his Assembly next year. : : : I’m not just talking about just the hate for McCann im talking about all this hate. In this chat room. You should all be ashamed of yourselves all you read is this one is gay this one is a drunk and so on… Me personally. I don’t like McCann! But im not going to take it out on Manzo. Lou is a good man and will do a good job as Mayor as he has as freeholder and now as Assemblyman. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Diogenes posted Message 7825 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 13:28:22 Subject: Healy Surges Into Lead Here's the link : http://politicsnj.com/healy101404.htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** Learn the Language you illiterate putz posted Message 7826 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 13:31:47 Subject: Re: Both of them are losers Gosh ... Harvey "id" the best candAdate? Ya all thin itz pozzible that dat dare writer gotz sometin to ofer uz? Sur witch I gots the abiluty toi writes like he all duz!!! : Harvey id the best candadate. He is gonna kick yall a$$es!! : : : Just inquire in Bradley Beach. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well, if you really want my opinion posted Message 7827 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 13:41:51 Subject: Re: McCann You're right. Where we live has become a national joke and it's simply because people care more about winning than integrity. If you can't teach an old dog a new trick, it is time to get a new dog. On who do we look to now, it's obvious. We look to some of the newer residents of Jersey City, especially those that didn't grow up here or are entrenched in the current political scene. We can't depend on the "old timers" to help us out of this mess until they see that we're serious about creating change. I am willing to bet that once positive change starts occuring, there will be many that jump onto the bandwagon. We have some "minor candidates" running for mayor and frankly, they have no hope of winning but if those of us who are sickened by the current ways were to vote for these minor candidates and start looking for someone that will step up to the plate for us and then run a serious campaign, we can do it! What Jersey City needs is new blood that will say no to the McCanns and the Menendez and all others who want to pay our way into office. We don't need them! We do need our integrity intact if we're really going to do this the right way. Vote for the devil that you don't know this time instead of the devils that you do know. You really don't have much to lose. : Its a bit shameful that Gerry never did admit guilt to any of the 18 counts that put him behind bars. He denied his guilt right to the end of his trial, through his sentencing, through his incarceration, and now that he's out..its the same old Gerry. I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks...like honesty, fair play, and most of all..integrity. : And the greater the role McCann has in Manzo's Assembly Office and now his campaign, the less respect I have for Lou Manzo. But then.... Healy has McCann's old Chief of Staff Buddy Demellier working for him. And no one can tell me that Demellier isn't cut from the same cloth as McCann. : So where do we look for leadership in this town? Harvey has failed us. Lipsky.... well he's just Lipsky. And Willie...lacks leadership qualities. What do we have to do to find new blood in JC? ***************** End Of Article ****************** NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: posted Message 7828 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 13:47:09 Subject: Healy Pole NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: October 13, 2004 Jerry healy will be appearing drunk & naked and will be beating his wife with a pole at the Astor Bar. FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well Written....Time for Action posted Message 7829 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 13:49:12 Subject: Re: McCann Fortunately this election is for the Interim Term, not a full four years. So there is time between now and May to put together a coalition of people, new-comers and honest "old hands" to put up a slate for the Spring. Maybe a new party, a new vision, a new voice is what we really need. Now its the motivation and the coalition that's necessary to make it happen. Hey...back in 93 no one knew who Bret was. But with a few new ideas and some solid PR he emerged from a field of 19 candidates to became Mayor and then a political power on the state level. It can happen again. It just takes vision. : You're right. Where we live has become a national joke and it's simply because people care more about winning than integrity. If you can't teach an old dog a new trick, it is time to get a new dog. : On who do we look to now, it's obvious. We look to some of the newer residents of Jersey City, especially those that didn't grow up here or are entrenched in the current political scene. We can't depend on the "old timers" to help us out of this mess until they see that we're serious about creating change. I am willing to bet that once positive change starts occuring, there will be many that jump onto the bandwagon. : We have some "minor candidates" running for mayor and frankly, they have no hope of winning but if those of us who are sickened by the current ways were to vote for these minor candidates and start looking for someone that will step up to the plate for us and then run a serious campaign, we can do it! : What Jersey City needs is new blood that will say no to the McCanns and the Menendez and all others who want to pay our way into office. We don't need them! We do need our integrity intact if we're really going to do this the right way. : Vote for the devil that you don't know this time instead of the devils that you do know. You really don't have much to lose. : : Its a bit shameful that Gerry never did admit guilt to any of the 18 counts that put him behind bars. He denied his guilt right to the end of his trial, through his sentencing, through his incarceration, and now that he's out..its the same old Gerry. I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks...like honesty, fair play, and most of all..integrity. : : And the greater the role McCann has in Manzo's Assembly Office and now his campaign, the less respect I have for Lou Manzo. But then.... Healy has McCann's old Chief of Staff Buddy Demellier working for him. And no one can tell me that Demellier isn't cut from the same cloth as McCann. : : So where do we look for leadership in this town? Harvey has failed us. Lipsky.... well he's just Lipsky. And Willie...lacks leadership qualities. What do we have to do to find new blood in JC? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ya know posted Message 7830 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 13:50:14 Subject: Re: Healy Pole That ain't even funny...it's just downright disgusting and typical of something that Gerry McCann would endorse. That's why a vote for Manzo is a vote for McCann! : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : October 13, 2004 : : Jerry healy will be appearing drunk & naked and will be beating his wife with a pole at the Astor Bar. : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Absolutely posted Message 7831 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 13:59:21 Subject: Re: McCann We're talking the same language here. Even though this is just for an interim term, it's still a good rallying cry to all those who are disgusted with politics here. There is just now a post on this board about a candidate doing a live performance of beating his wife. I just cannot imaging the depths of hell that these people will burn in for even thinking something up like that let alone posting it. It's one thing to go after a candidate but when you start posting as if you are condoning spousal abuse, it becomes quite another thing. I'm really shocked that Anthony allowed that post. I would suggest that we drop the HCDO, JCDO and RDHC and begin a citywide movement against machinism. It starts with us...letters to the editor, coming up with real solutions, making appearances at any public meetings and speaking up. It may start with you and I but I believe that it will gain ground and by spring be a full blown campaign. : Fortunately this election is for the Interim Term, not a full four years. So there is time between now and May to put together a coalition of people, new-comers and honest "old hands" to put up a slate for the Spring. Maybe a new party, a new vision, a new voice is what we really need. Now its the motivation and the coalition that's necessary to make it happen. Hey...back in 93 no one knew who Bret was. But with a few new ideas and some solid PR he emerged from a field of 19 candidates to became Mayor and then a political power on the state level. It can happen again. It just takes vision. : : You're right. Where we live has become a national joke and it's simply because people care more about winning than integrity. If you can't teach an old dog a new trick, it is time to get a new dog. : : On who do we look to now, it's obvious. We look to some of the newer residents of Jersey City, especially those that didn't grow up here or are entrenched in the current political scene. We can't depend on the "old timers" to help us out of this mess until they see that we're serious about creating change. I am willing to bet that once positive change starts occuring, there will be many that jump onto the bandwagon. : : We have some "minor candidates" running for mayor and frankly, they have no hope of winning but if those of us who are sickened by the current ways were to vote for these minor candidates and start looking for someone that will step up to the plate for us and then run a serious campaign, we can do it! : : What Jersey City needs is new blood that will say no to the McCanns and the Menendez and all others who want to pay our way into office. We don't need them! We do need our integrity intact if we're really going to do this the right way. : : Vote for the devil that you don't know this time instead of the devils that you do know. You really don't have much to lose. : : : Its a bit shameful that Gerry never did admit guilt to any of the 18 counts that put him behind bars. He denied his guilt right to the end of his trial, through his sentencing, through his incarceration, and now that he's out..its the same old Gerry. I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks...like honesty, fair play, and most of all..integrity. : : : And the greater the role McCann has in Manzo's Assembly Office and now his campaign, the less respect I have for Lou Manzo. But then.... Healy has McCann's old Chief of Staff Buddy Demellier working for him. And no one can tell me that Demellier isn't cut from the same cloth as McCann. : : : So where do we look for leadership in this town? Harvey has failed us. Lipsky.... well he's just Lipsky. And Willie...lacks leadership qualities. What do we have to do to find new blood in JC? ***************** End Of Article ****************** LIPSKI4MAYOR posted Message 7832 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 14:01:12 Subject: LIPSKI IS SMOKIN' kICKIN ASS AND TAKIN NAMES ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where Were The Pollsters? posted Message 7833 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 14:12:29 Subject: Polling At the Astor Bar Doesn't Count : COngrats to Healy on his numbers.,... but lose the idiot Amabile. What a loser... What kind of idiot quotes himself in s press release? Only one like Amabile. : : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : : October 13, 2004 : : : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 : : HEALY SURGES INTO LEAD IN JERSEY CITY MAYOR RACE : : The latest poll taken in the Jersey City Mayor’s race shows that Councilman Jerramiah Healy has surged ahead and is now in first place. : : The poll by McLaughlin & Associates taken on October 10 and 11 found that Healy now has 25% of the vote, Lou Manzo has 22%, Harvey Smith has 13%, Willie Flood has 11%, and Steve Lipski has 2%. : : Healy’s vote has almost doubled in the last month. A September poll by the same firm had him in third place with just 13%. “Councilman Healy’s campaign clearly has the momentum at this critical point in the campaign,” said Healy Campaign Media Consultant Anthony Amabile. “It’s quickly becoming a two man race and Lou Manzo is losing ground rapidly.” : : Amabile said that personal integrity is a key issue in the race and that Manzo is being hurt by his association with his Chief of Staff Gerald McCann, a convicted felon who spent three years in prison for bank fraud. “Voters who are tired of corruption and crime are choosing Jerramiah Healy, a former judge and prosecutor, to clean up Jersey City,” he said. “McCann makes people’s skin crawl.” : : McLaughlin & Associates is a prominent national polling firm with extensive experience in Jersey City and New Jersey. : : To: Healy for Mayor : : From: McLaughlin & Associates : : Re: Jersey City Executive Survey Summary : : Date: October 13, 2004 : : Methodology: This Jersey City, New Jersey survey was conducted among 300 likely general election voters on October 10th and 11th, 2004. All interviews were conducted by professional interviewers via telephone. Interview selection was at random within predetermined election units. These units were structured to statistically correlate with actual general election voter distributions in Jersey City. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. : : Summary: The special election for Jersey City Mayor this November is seeing the field narrowed down to a few candidates. According to recent statistics, Jerramiah T. Healy has taken over the lead in the race for Mayor of Jersey City. Healy was running in 3rd in a close race with 13% of the vote on September 7th. Since then, he has gained over 11 points and now has 25% of the ballot. The other candidates are flat and not moving. : : : : Jerramiah T. Healy still maintains an almost a 3 to 1 (38.0% to 14.0%) favorable to unfavorable ratio. It is clear that among the voters who do have an opinion of him, Healy is well liked and has a strong base of support. Over the past month, the increased exposure Healy has enjoyed has only served to increase his favorables as well as his percentage of the ballot. Jerramiah T. Healy can win this election if he maintains his momentum and continues to increase his favorables as he has done over the past month. : : Conclusion: The race for Mayor of Jersey City is still competitive. However, Jerramiah T. Healy is now the leader in a narrowing field. Healy’s new found lead in the race provides crucial momentum with less than three weeks to go and a very strong opportunity to win this election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lipski4DogCatcher posted Message 7834 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 14:13:18 Subject: Re: LIPSKI IS SMOKIN'CRACK : LICKIN ASS AND TAKIN ANPHEDAMINES ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get off the Manzo Mobile Idiot posted Message 7835 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 14:17:29 Subject: Re: Healy Pole :::Like Smith & Lipski wouldn't post something like this. Let's not forget Buonocore who has a personal vendetta against Manzo. : That ain't even funny...it's just downright disgusting and typical of something that Gerry McCann would endorse. That's why a vote for Manzo is a vote for McCann! : : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : : October 13, 2004 : : : : Jerry healy will be appearing drunk & naked and will be beating his wife with a pole at the Astor Bar. : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Learn the Language posted Message 7836 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 14:31:47 Subject: Re: Healy Pole Do you people know the difference between POLE and POLL? How pathetic. : :::Like Smith & Lipski wouldn't post something like this. Let's not forget Buonocore who has a personal vendetta against Manzo. : : That ain't even funny...it's just downright disgusting and typical of something that Gerry McCann would endorse. That's why a vote for Manzo is a vote for McCann! : : : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : : : October 13, 2004 : : : : : : Jerry healy will be appearing drunk & naked and will be beating his wife with a pole at the Astor Bar. : : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : : : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Collecting posted Message 7837 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 14:33:20 Subject: Re: LIPSKI IS ??????? Giving tax rebates and cashing checks! : kICKIN ASS AND TAKIN NAMES ***************** End Of Article ****************** jjjjjjjj posted Message 7838 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 15:45:12 Subject: yyyyy i dont like this chat room anymore! im going to jclist.com you people su(k! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJ Senate Democrats posted Message 7839 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 15:46:23 Subject: DORIA PUSHES BILL PACKAGE TO IMPROVE STATE-RUN PHARMACEUTICAL ASSISTANCE FOR RELEASE: Immediate CONTACT: Jason Butkowski October 15, 2004 Tel: (609) 292-5215 Fax: (609) 984-1235 DORIA PUSHES BILL PACKAGE TO IMPROVE STATE-RUN PHARMACEUTICAL ASSISTANCE TRENTON - Senator Joseph V. Doria announced today that he will call for consideration of a legislative package he introduced which would improve New Jersey's Pharmaceutical Assistance for the Aged and Disabled (PAAD) and SeniorGold pharmaceutical assistance programs. "The cost of drugs in today's society is burdensome to so many seniors and disabled individuals who live on fixed incomes," said Senator Doria, D-Hudson. "Without some sort of State assistance, many of these people would have to forego necessary medicine just to afford basic living expenses in the Garden State. The current PAAD and SeniorGold programs provide help to many, but with a little more flexibility and improvements to the system, they could be so much better for all of the vulnerable citizens of our State." The first bill in the package, S-1933, would prohibit the Commissioner of the Department of Health and Senior Services from implementing any regulations in connection with the PAAD program which would limit or restrict a PAAD recipient's ability to select a participating pharmacy. The bill does authorize the Commissioner to require that eligible pharmacies be able to provide PAAD recipients with patient consultation services and be able to monitor for adverse drug interactions. The bill also prohibits the Commissioner from imposing a mandatory mail-order pharmaceutical service. "PAAD recipients, many of whom suffer from restricted mobility, need the flexibility to go to a convenient pharmacist, and we should not let bureaucrats stand in their way," said Senator Doria. "At the same time, many of these recipients need face-to-face contact with a pharmacist who can answer their questions and verify that their medications aren't interacting negatively to impact their health. This bill ensures that the Commissioner of Health cannot go from one extreme to another, and puts the decision-making power in the hands of the people who rely on PAAD for their pharmaceutical needs." The second bill, S-1934, would establish the 15-member "New Jersey Pharmaceutical Assistance Study Commission," within the Department of Health and Senior Services, to study the effects of federal Medicare reform legislation and make recommendations to ensure that seniors and disabled residents in New Jersey who are enrolled in PAAD and SeniorGold are not negatively affected. The Commission will make recommendations to the Legislature within twelve months of the bill being signed into law on how to adapt PAAD and SeniorGold to the new federal Medicare regulations. "Right now, it's really anybody's guess what the federal Medicare regulations have in store for New Jersey, and how it will affect our State-run pharmaceutical assistance programs," said Senator Doria. "We need a panel of experts to make sure that we're getting the best deals possible for our State's elderly and disabled residents. The Pharmaceutical Assistance Study Commission will work on behalf of our State to make PAAD and SeniorGold the best programs that they can be." Both bills are pending consideration in the Senate. ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJ Senate Democrats posted Message 7840 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 15:50:01 Subject: DORIA BILL TO ENCOURAGE INVESTMENT IN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS APPROVED FOR RELEASE: Immediate CONTACT: Jason Butkowski October 14, 2004 Tel: (609) 292-5215 Fax: (609) 984-1235 DORIA BILL TO ENCOURAGE INVESTMENT IN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS APPROVED TRENTON - A bill sponsored by Senator Joseph V. Doria which would allow special improvement districts (SIDS) to borrow money from private lenders, such as banks, under long-term financing contracts was unanimously approved by the Senate Community and Urban Affairs Committee today. "The saying goes that Rome was not built in a day, and I don't think that they could rebuild it in a day either," said Senator Doria, D-Hudson. "Improvement districts are our State's answer to help blighted areas within a municipality rebuild, but currently, we impose strict time limits on how long they can borrow money from private lenders. By allowing SIDS the flexibility that a long-term financing contract provides, we are improving the chances for success in these districts." The bill, S-1723, would authorize SIDS to enter into long-term financing arrangements with private lenders in order to provide more funding for downtown improvements and allow greater latitude to implement long-range programs to revitalize downtown business areas. Currently, SIDS can only borrow money from private lenders for 180 days. Senator Doria argued that by giving SIDS the ability to enter into long-term borrowing agreements, we are also opening up a market in-demand by many private investors. "If you look at how fast private investors grab up publicly-issued bonds, you would see that investors want to get involved in public revitalization projects," said Senator Doria. "The market is there to forge strong public-private partnerships to rebuild and revitalize many of the downtown areas throughout the State that have fallen on hard times. We should open up the floodgates, and see what kind of a positive response we can get from the investment community in helping our downtowns thrive and flourish." The bill now heads to the full Senate for consideration. ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone posted Message 7841 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 15:57:51 Subject: ASSEMBLY PANEL CLEARS CHIAPPONE/CRYAN/BARNES MEASURE AIMED AT PREVENTING IDENTITY THEFT ASSEMBLYMAN ANTHONY CHIAPPONE NEWS RELEASE ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gerbels posted Message 7842 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 16:06:19 Subject: Re: AMABILE - Needs a New Supply of Tony is running low on his little friends. Let's contribute to Tony's Gerbel fund, he needs the thrills more than Jerry needs the money. : Amabile you are a vile POS. Just cash your Healy campaign check an d slither away. You dsisgust me. : : He is stealing every penny from thne Healy campaign. Take a look at his elec reports. Tony Amabile is one gay bastard. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 7843 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 16:19:15 Subject: He'd pick me !!!! I talk to God every day. We're paisans. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 1 out of 2 posted Message 7844 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 16:45:01 Subject: I Disagee ! Think Tony Amabile is a slime bucket. if it wasn't for his family the number would be closer to 1 for 1. We love you Tony! : 1 out of 3 people think Tony Amabile is slime. : : Now that we have determined that everyone in Jersey City is either Gay, drunk, pathetic, a loser, a rip-off, or some other variety of low life.... does anyone have some real numbers to share.... not just spin? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo Loses Again posted Message 7845 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 16:50:04 Subject: Re: MANZO CAN FUGHETABOUTIT!!!!!!!!!! It's not just dropping the soap, him and Jerry are use to that. But, this guy is all over the place. I was at one of the recent debates and he talks about fifteen different things. GET FOCUS MAN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** STATE ASSEMBLYMAN ANTHONY CHIAPPONE posted Message 7846 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 16:51:44 Subject: CHIAPPONE SEEKS ENVIRONMENTAL SAFEGUARDS TO "FAST TRACK" BILL CHIAPPONE AND COALTION GROUP SEEKS ENVIRONMENTAL SAFEGUARDS AGAINST NEW JERSEY’S “FAST TRACK” LAW – INTRODUCES NEW BILL TO EXEMPT BROWNFIELDS In response to the “Fast Track” development bill which was recently passed by the Assembly and Senate with Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone (D-31ST)and Assemblyman Lou Manzo (D-31ST) voting “no” and Senator Joe Doria (D-31ST) voting “yes”, Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone has introduced legislation to exempt brownfield sites from automatic approval by the Department of Environmental Protection Agency. This past summer, the Save N.J. Coalition held a public hearing to outline ways to ameliorate the worst aspects of the new so-called “Fast Track” law. At a meeting held at N.J.’s state house, Assemblyman Chiappone sat on the panel with Bradley Campbell, Comm. of N.J.’s DEP and with the Chairman of Save N.J. Coalition, Paul Chrystie. Assemblyman Chiappone opposed the “fast track” bill because he felt that it would permit developers to build homes on on contaminated “Brownfield” sites (former industrial areas) which would present a potential healt hazard to future homeowners on those sites. The “Fast Track” bill was as a compromise, according to Chiappone, to appease developers who weren’t happy over the Highlands Act, a bill that set aside acreage for preservation without allowing for development within the protected area. To appease the developers, the “Fast Track” bill was attached to the Highlands Act; it allows developers to “fast-track” building permits of former brownfield sites. “Builders can get automatic approval to develop in 45 days ”, said Chiappone, “if the D.E.P. doesn’t act on the application. It’s approval through inaction, and the 45 day period is simply not enough time to investigate the potential contamination of some sites.” Chiappone added “on the surface, it seems reasonable to encourage development; however, in areas such as Bayonne and Jersey City, with a multitude of brownfield sites, my concern is that their “fast tracking” may be done to the detriment of the health and welfare of the public; especially if these sites were not properly remediated, “Chiappone stated.” The Coalition, which formed to urge the Governor to veto the law, will challenge it legally and will work for its repeal. However, now that the bill is law, the coalition asked several McGreevey Administration officials present today to work diligently to limit the problems and environmental damage from this bill. “We are extremely disappointed with the fast track permit bill passed by the Legislature and signed by Governor McGreevey. The bill weakens thirty years of environmental protections, reduces public participation to minimal at best, and undermines ongoing and important environmental initiatives,” said Paul Chrystie. “The backtracking and undermining of environmental protection is not limited to any one region of the state. Rather, it affects all New Jerseyans, regardless of whether they live in an urban, suburban or rural setting,” said Andrew Willner, Executive Director of the NY/NJ Baykeeper. The Save NJ Coalition said the Legislature must pass and Governor Mc Greevey must sign real Smart Growth Legislation to not only promote development in appropriate locations, but also to protect the environment, assure public participation, and include up to date environmental data. To this end assemblyman Chiappone has unveiled Assembly bill A-2318 which would exclude Brownfields from the Fast Track permitting process. ***************** End Of Article ****************** From Typing to Impersonate a mayoral Candidate posted Message 7847 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 17:14:31 Subject: This Should Stop Healy the Cross Dresser : ASSEMBLYMAN ANTHONY CHIAPPONE NEWS RELEASE ***************** End Of Article ****************** Are You Pandering to the electorate? posted Message 7848 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 17:16:24 Subject: Joe - All of a Suuden You Post this Stuff : FOR RELEASE: Immediate CONTACT: Jason Butkowski : October 14, 2004 Tel: (609) 292-5215 : Fax: (609) 984-1235 : : DORIA BILL TO ENCOURAGE INVESTMENT IN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS APPROVED : TRENTON - A bill sponsored by Senator Joseph V. Doria which would allow special improvement districts (SIDS) to borrow money from private lenders, such as banks, under long-term financing contracts was unanimously approved by the Senate Community and Urban Affairs Committee today. : "The saying goes that Rome was not built in a day, and I don't think that they could rebuild it in a day either," said Senator Doria, D-Hudson. "Improvement districts are our State's answer to help blighted areas within a municipality rebuild, but currently, we impose strict time limits on how long they can borrow money from private lenders. By allowing SIDS the flexibility that a long-term financing contract provides, we are improving the chances for success in these districts." : The bill, S-1723, would authorize SIDS to enter into long-term financing arrangements with private lenders in order to provide more funding for downtown improvements and allow greater latitude to implement long-range programs to revitalize downtown business areas. Currently, SIDS can only borrow money from private lenders for 180 days. Senator Doria argued that by giving SIDS the ability to enter into long-term borrowing agreements, we are also opening up a market in-demand by many private investors. : "If you look at how fast private investors grab up publicly-issued bonds, you would see that investors want to get involved in public revitalization projects," said Senator Doria. "The market is there to forge strong public-private partnerships to rebuild and revitalize many of the downtown areas throughout the State that have fallen on hard times. We should open up the floodgates, and see what kind of a positive response we can get from the investment community in helping our downtowns thrive and flourish." : The bill now heads to the full Senate for consideration. : ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just Shows You - Jerry is a Dunce posted Message 7849 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 17:22:41 Subject: Re: Amabile is a rip-off....wise up Jerry EVERYBODY is HC knows was a low-life Tony Amible is. This degenerate will do anything for money. If Jerry Healy doesn't realize this by now he never will and one can only conclude that his stupidity has no limit. Wake up Jerry! Fire this A-Hole. : Amnbile charges thousands of dollars for a poll that his biatch Spinelli will conduct by calling her friends over the weekend. He's the biggest scam in HC and has been discreditied for years. No one with any brains would hire this guy. : : The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. So this means Lou Manzo is ahead by 8 points as Amabile has already gave Jerry Healy the 5.6 % margin of error in his #. : : : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : : : October 13, 2004 : : : : : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : : : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 : : : HEALY SURGES INTO LEAD IN JERSEY CITY MAYOR RACE : : : The latest poll taken in the Jersey City Mayor’s race shows that Councilman Jerramiah Healy has surged ahead and is now in first place. : : : The poll by McLaughlin & Associates taken on October 10 and 11 found that Healy now has 25% of the vote, Lou Manzo has 22%, Harvey Smith has 13%, Willie Flood has 11%, and Steve Lipski has 2%. : : : Healy’s vote has almost doubled in the last month. A September poll by the same firm had him in third place with just 13%. “Councilman Healy’s campaign clearly has the momentum at this critical point in the campaign,” said Healy Campaign Media Consultant Anthony Amabile. “It’s quickly becoming a two man race and Lou Manzo is losing ground rapidly.” : : : Amabile said that personal integrity is a key issue in the race and that Manzo is being hurt by his association with his Chief of Staff Gerald McCann, a convicted felon who spent three years in prison for bank fraud. “Voters who are tired of corruption and crime are choosing Jerramiah Healy, a former judge and prosecutor, to clean up Jersey City,” he said. “McCann makes people’s skin crawl.” : : : McLaughlin & Associates is a prominent national polling firm with extensive experience in Jersey City and New Jersey. : : : To: Healy for Mayor : : : From: McLaughlin & Associates : : : Re: Jersey City Executive Survey Summary : : : Date: October 13, 2004 : : : Methodology: This Jersey City, New Jersey survey was conducted among 300 likely general election voters on October 10th and 11th, 2004. All interviews were conducted by professional interviewers via telephone. Interview selection was at random within predetermined election units. These units were structured to statistically correlate with actual general election voter distributions in Jersey City. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. : : : Summary: The special election for Jersey City Mayor this November is seeing the field narrowed down to a few candidates. According to recent statistics, Jerramiah T. Healy has taken over the lead in the race for Mayor of Jersey City. Healy was running in 3rd in a close race with 13% of the vote on September 7th. Since then, he has gained over 11 points and now has 25% of the ballot. The other candidates are flat and not moving. : : : : : : Jerramiah T. Healy still maintains an almost a 3 to 1 (38.0% to 14.0%) favorable to unfavorable ratio. It is clear that among the voters who do have an opinion of him, Healy is well liked and has a strong base of support. Over the past month, the increased exposure Healy has enjoyed has only served to increase his favorables as well as his percentage of the ballot. Jerramiah T. Healy can win this election if he maintains his momentum and continues to increase his favorables as he has done over the past month. : : : Conclusion: The race for Mayor of Jersey City is still competitive. However, Jerramiah T. Healy is now the leader in a narrowing field. Healy’s new found lead in the race provides crucial momentum with less than three weeks to go and a very strong opportunity to win this election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JCIA posted Message 7850 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 18:16:39 Subject: Re: LIPSKI LIPSKI LIPSKI : kICKIN ASS AND TAKIN NAMES Enough said ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerzzycity posted Message 7851 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 18:17:58 Subject: LIPSKI ON FAST TRACK TO VICTORY You won't need state legislation to rule this victory ***************** End Of Article ****************** Citizen's Watchgroup posted Message 7852 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 18:19:26 Subject: Re: MC CAN"T : Hey people just remember Glenn Cunningham was the one that gave Gerald McCann a job for the city. Cunningham was the one that was forgiven of his past. He also thought everyone should get a second chance. People. You all need to stop this hate. Find god and fine some love in your heart. Chance? Would Gerry give others a chance ***************** End Of Article ****************** muzzle posted Message 7853 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 18:23:32 Subject: Re: LIPSKI CRACKING DOWN ON THE DOGS! : : LICKIN ASS AND TAKIN ANPHEDAMINES Whoever wrote this will be sent to the dog pound ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dying of cholesterol posted Message 7854 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 18:27:39 Subject: McMAnzo tries to sell whooper and goes bankrupt RAM it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hungry Heart posted Message 7855 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 18:29:06 Subject: Re: YEAH WE DESERVE A BREAK TODAY! : RAM it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Haven't Been Rammed! posted Message 7856 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 18:32:50 Subject: Re: McMANZO DOUBLE INDEMNIFIED ! : : RAM it! WE're f*&@#! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry Healy posted Message 7857 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 19:48:29 Subject: Nobody is going to Endorse You people are so dillussional, its pathetic. Nobody other than Jerry;s friends from the Astor Bar and dirtbags DeGise Gaughan and Demillier endorse Healy. As for campaigning, when was the last time Healy walked the streets, talked to people and rang door bells. When????? Nobody is doing $hit on his campaign and you know it. Amaible, that Gay-Blade publishing bogus poll results! What a joke. : MAJOR ENDORSEMENTS ARE PILING UP FOR A BIG PUSH FOR , JERRY HEALY : .ALL THE TOP LABOR UNIONS IN THE COUNTY & STATE WILL ENDORSE HIM ALONG WITH MOST ELECTED OFFICIALY THE LAST WEEK OF THE CAMPAIGN. : THERE WILL BE CAMPAIGN WORKERS HEAVY IN NUMBERS GETTING OUT THE VOTE. FROM THE HCDO ESPECIALLY SINCE BIG MOUTH MCCANNIS SAYING IN THE LOCAL PUBS IF LOU WINS THEY ARE GOING NORTH TO GET BOB MENENDEZ AND SACCO. BRIAN STACK IS WITH LOU. : AND WONT BE MAYOR NEXT ELECTION FOR WORKING WITH MANZO. : ONNELECTION DAY LOOK FOR THE HEALY WORKERS BY THE HUNDREDS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY.AND HE WILL BE CELEBRATING VICTORY AT PUCCINIS IN JERSEY CITY MARION SECTION. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who Are these Bozo's posted Message 7858 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 19:52:15 Subject: Let's Hear from McLaughlin & Associates? Let's hear directly from McLaughlin & Associates about their poll. Lets hear the facts about this supposed poll. How much did McLaughlin get for doing this poll? Nothing Tony AMabile says is believeable. : Grow up people. You can do better than this piece of amateaur trash. Or maybe this is the best you Manzo people can do. : : : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : : : October 13, 2004 : : : : : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : : : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 : : : HEALY SURGES INTO LEAD IN JERSEY CITY DRINKING RACE : : : The latest poll taken in the Jersey City Mayor’s race shows that Councilman Jerramiah Healy has surged ahead and is now in first place in the drinking contest.. : : : The poll by McLaughlin & Associates taken on October 10 and 11 found that Healy has drank 68 beers and Harvey Smith is just plain stupid. : : : Healy’s drinking has doubled in the last month. A September poll by the same firm had him drinking 30 to 40 beers an hour now he is up to 85 beers an hour. “Councilman Healy’s campaign clearly has the momentum at this critical point in the until the naked and drunk pictures are released. Tony Amabile has said he is gay and he loves to smoke the peni$. : : : Amabile said that personal integrity is a key issue in the race and that Manzo is being hurt by his association with Gerald McCann. He also said that when Gerry McCann ran Tom Degise's campaign McCann did not effect Tom Debgise . For some strange reason McCann only effects Lou Manzo. “Voters who are tired of corruption and crime are choosing Lou Manzo to clean up Jersey City,” he said. “McCann has a nice ass and I like to get in his pants" said Amabile. : : : Tony Amabile & Associates are a prominent national polling firm with extensive experience in smoking peni$ in Jersey City : : : To: Healy for Drinking gasoline : : : From: McLaughlin & Associates : : : Re: Jersey City Executive Survey Summary : : : Date: October 13, 2004 : : : Methodology: This Jersey City, New Jersey survey was conducted among 300 likely general election voters on October 10th and 11th, 2004 and Tony Amabile blew everyone he interviewed. All interviews were conducted by professional interviewers via telephone. Interview selection was at random within predetermined election units. These units were structured to statistically correlate with actual general election voter distributions in Jersey City. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. ***************** End Of Article ****************** In The National Inquirer posted Message 7859 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 19:56:39 Subject: Healy Full Page Spread Jerry's pic's in the buff will be featured in a centerfold story appearing in National Inquirer along with Jerry's candid interview explaining how he drinks himself senseless and then takes his clothes off in front of his neighbors. The Inquirer wants to inteview anyone who claims to be for Healy since that will be a bigger story than Jerry's naked pic's. ' ***************** End Of Article ****************** Oh! It Hurts Tony! posted Message 7860 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 21:11:00 Subject: Re: LIPSKI CRACK Taking bending over lessons from Tony Amibile. : : : LICKIN ASS AND TAKIN ANPHEDAMINES : Whoever wrote this will be sent to the dog pound ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy posted Message 7861 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 21:15:49 Subject: Bobby J Is for Bobby J is approvingly looking down on the JC election from his luxurious digs in Steamboat Springs Colorado with great admiration for the great job Tommy DeGise and his hand picked puppet (jerry Healy)are doing to continue to fleece the taxpayers of Hudson County. Yes, life is good for Boby J. ALL of his consultants continue to get fat no-bid contracts from DeGise and if Healy gets elected he can look at four more years of an endless gravy train. No bad for a convicted felon, not bad at all. Keep up the good work Tommy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy To Reveal All posted Message 7862 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 21:29:29 Subject: Re: Healy is drunk, naked and stupid I can't wait for jerry to enter rehab. : I can't wait until this is on network news. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Better Have Monitors at the Polls posted Message 7863 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 21:32:53 Subject: Candidates Beware THose devious SOBS running the county are capable of doing anything to get Healy elected. : REQUEST FOR ELECTION MONITORS : Christie needs to know what happened in 1985 elections : Jersey City, NJ - Kim B. Greene, Ward F Leader of the Reform Democratic Committee of Jersey City and Standard Bearer of the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, has sent US Attorney Christopher Christie a letter requesting that he provide election monitors to oversee the Jersey City polling places during the special November election. Why? : Gerald McCann is Assemblyman Louis Manzo's campaign manager and it is reported that the Manzo/McCann team intends to use similar tactics as in 1985 to encourage the minority voters from voting on Election Day. : "On behalf of the residents of Jersey City and especially the minority voting community, I would like to request that you provide election monitors to oversee polling activities for the special election on November 2, 2004 at all polling places in Jersey City," said Greene in his letter to Christie. : In 1985, Gerald McCann ran for the office of Mayor and during that election, he encouraged his election workers to use various tactics that infringed upon the voting rights of many African American voters. He and his political allies prevented and delayed numerous voters from casting their vote for the candidate of their choice. They were charged with disenfranchising the minority vote. : "We do not want history to repeat itself since Gerald McCann is the campaign manager for Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who is running for Mayor. We are concerned that the Manzo/McCann team intends to use every ploy to ensure a victory for Manzo, including intimidation against voters," stated Greene. "It is our hope that on Election Day, November 2, 2004, The US Attorney's Office will do everything in their power to ensure the residents of Jersey City an opportunity to cast their vote for the candidates of their choice without the fear of their civil rights being violated. Let's not have another election stolen by a candidate that allows the voters to be disenfranchised. Don't allow what happened in Florida to happen in New Jersey." ***************** End Of Article ****************** How lame posted Message 7864 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 21:36:23 Subject: Look at the FAKE postings Interesting how about 15 postings in a row are all headlined with capital letters. Looks like someone is using like a few dozen aliases and spending their evening posting junk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez and the DCDO Gang Have Got to Go! posted Message 7865 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 21:40:33 Subject: I Think We Agree On One Thing I think eveyone in this thread agree on one thing, Menendez and the county organization are corrupt to the core. Nothing good is going to happen in HC/JC until these thugs are thrown out of office. Its their strangle hold on power that copputs them and their utter contempt for the electorate. Bash Jerry McCann all you want but Lou Manzo is not with the HCDO and he proved last year that they can be beaten . He and Glenn Cunningham proved it. So stop bashing Jerry McCann, he is not going to be mayor. Lets keep the focus on the overthrow of the Menendez HCDO regime. : You're right. Where we live has become a national joke and it's simply because people care more about winning than integrity. If you can't teach an old dog a new trick, it is time to get a new dog. : On who do we look to now, it's obvious. We look to some of the newer residents of Jersey City, especially those that didn't grow up here or are entrenched in the current political scene. We can't depend on the "old timers" to help us out of this mess until they see that we're serious about creating change. I am willing to bet that once positive change starts occuring, there will be many that jump onto the bandwagon. : We have some "minor candidates" running for mayor and frankly, they have no hope of winning but if those of us who are sickened by the current ways were to vote for these minor candidates and start looking for someone that will step up to the plate for us and then run a serious campaign, we can do it! : What Jersey City needs is new blood that will say no to the McCanns and the Menendez and all others who want to pay our way into office. We don't need them! We do need our integrity intact if we're really going to do this the right way. : Vote for the devil that you don't know this time instead of the devils that you do know. You really don't have much to lose. : : Its a bit shameful that Gerry never did admit guilt to any of the 18 counts that put him behind bars. He denied his guilt right to the end of his trial, through his sentencing, through his incarceration, and now that he's out..its the same old Gerry. I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks...like honesty, fair play, and most of all..integrity. : : And the greater the role McCann has in Manzo's Assembly Office and now his campaign, the less respect I have for Lou Manzo. But then.... Healy has McCann's old Chief of Staff Buddy Demellier working for him. And no one can tell me that Demellier isn't cut from the same cloth as McCann. : : So where do we look for leadership in this town? Harvey has failed us. Lipsky.... well he's just Lipsky. And Willie...lacks leadership qualities. What do we have to do to find new blood in JC? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poll Results posted Message 7866 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 21:51:52 Subject: The Numbers 2 out of five Jersey City residents think Harvey Smith is really a former member of the women's olympic basketball team. 1 out of five Jersey City residents think Steve Lipsky has a stupid last name. 4 out of five Jersey City residents are disappointed in the choices they have for Mayor this time around. One Jersey City resident (J Dolan) thinks Willie Flood is a man. 1 out of ten Jersey City residents would prefer to vote for a partridge in a pear tree rather than anyone currently running for Mayor. : Let's hear directly from McLaughlin & Associates about their poll. Lets hear the facts about this supposed poll. : How much did McLaughlin get for doing this poll? : Nothing Tony AMabile says is believeable. : : Grow up people. You can do better than this piece of amateaur trash. Or maybe this is the best you Manzo people can do. : : : : NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: : : : : October 13, 2004 : : : : : : : : FROM: HEALY FOR MAYOR : : : : CONTACT: Anthony Amabile (201) 795-1166 or (201) 920-1815 : : : : HEALY SURGES INTO LEAD IN JERSEY CITY DRINKING RACE : : : : The latest poll taken in the Jersey City Mayor’s race shows that Councilman Jerramiah Healy has surged ahead and is now in first place in the drinking contest.. : : : : The poll by McLaughlin & Associates taken on October 10 and 11 found that Healy has drank 68 beers and Harvey Smith is just plain stupid. : : : : Healy’s drinking has doubled in the last month. A September poll by the same firm had him drinking 30 to 40 beers an hour now he is up to 85 beers an hour. “Councilman Healy’s campaign clearly has the momentum at this critical point in the until the naked and drunk pictures are released. Tony Amabile has said he is gay and he loves to smoke the peni$. : : : : Amabile said that personal integrity is a key issue in the race and that Manzo is being hurt by his association with Gerald McCann. He also said that when Gerry McCann ran Tom Degise's campaign McCann did not effect Tom Debgise . For some strange reason McCann only effects Lou Manzo. “Voters who are tired of corruption and crime are choosing Lou Manzo to clean up Jersey City,” he said. “McCann has a nice ass and I like to get in his pants" said Amabile. : : : : Tony Amabile & Associates are a prominent national polling firm with extensive experience in smoking peni$ in Jersey City : : : : To: Healy for Drinking gasoline : : : : From: McLaughlin & Associates : : : : Re: Jersey City Executive Survey Summary : : : : Date: October 13, 2004 : : : : Methodology: This Jersey City, New Jersey survey was conducted among 300 likely general election voters on October 10th and 11th, 2004 and Tony Amabile blew everyone he interviewed. All interviews were conducted by professional interviewers via telephone. Interview selection was at random within predetermined election units. These units were structured to statistically correlate with actual general election voter distributions in Jersey City. The accuracy of this sample of 300 likely general election voters is within +/- 5.6% at a 95% confidence interval. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Look again posted Message 7867 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 21:55:49 Subject: Re: Healy Full Page Spread Imagine how lame Manzo must feel now that he realizes that even with the possibility of those pictures being out there, he is still trailing Healy in the polls. How embarrassing that must be for a guy who has turned over the reins of his campaign to a former convict. : Jerry's pic's in the buff will be featured in a centerfold story appearing in National Inquirer along with Jerry's candid interview explaining how he drinks himself senseless and then takes his clothes off in front of his neighbors. : The Inquirer wants to inteview anyone who claims to be for Healy since that will be a bigger story than Jerry's naked pic's. : ' ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inquiring Mind posted Message 7868 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 21:58:36 Subject: Is it true? Is the rumor that there are photos of Manzo in an "intimate moment" with Danny M. true? Has anyone seen them? I hear they were McCann's blackmail photos that got him the Chief of Staff job on Manzo's Assembly staff. Nothing would surprise me any more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jambo posted Message 7869 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 23:19:38 Subject: Re: Healy Full Page Spread healy still ahead in all the polls.no matter how dirty and personal manzo and mccann get healy will still win lou manzo is at a stand still while healy is still moving ahead : ' ***************** End Of Article ****************** james posted Message 7870 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 23:22:53 Subject: Healy will defeat lou manzo Jerramiah Healy will defeat Lou Manzo by a very wide margin if the polls remain moving this way. lou did it again he peaked again early sorry looney louie. go HEALY!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CAROL MANGERI posted Message 7871 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 23:28:52 Subject: RON MANZO BLAMES GERRY MCCANN LOU MANZOS BROTHER RONNIE IS BLAMING GERRY MCCANN FOR LOU DOWNHILL SLIDE IN THE POLLS. KEEP THE NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN GOIN GERRY WE NEED YOU TO LOSE FOR LOUIS. IS THIS WHY YOU ARE FIGHTING WITH THE WARD "A " WORKERS. GERRY IT IS ALL OVER FOR YOU GET A REAL JOB AND A LIFE. HEALY ALL THE WAY. PS MC MANZO TEAM CANT MAKE A PIMPLE ON HEALYS A$$ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Norman posted Message 7872 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 15, 2004 at 23:46:23 Subject: Re: If GOD came today and had to pick a candidate who would he chose? Be serious. : If God where to choice I think he would have kept Glenn Cunningham here. but i know he would choice willie flood ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bridget Jones posted Message 7873 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 00:39:53 Subject: I tired of the negitve talk I'm so tired of all the talk about who is what and how one is going to do a good job over the other. I'm sick and tired of everyone say bad things about mrs flood. This lady worked hard for people all her life look at here track record. Teacher helping children, dir of aging,dir of senior for the county. Now im a tax payer and Im corprate worker. I want someone who is speaking from there hearts about Jersey city and Yes Lou Manzo is Assemblyman but why is the bills that he is getting passed in Trenton not related to the important things happening in jersey city. healy has not been a good councilman so what makes him think he will be a good mayor. Lipski what the h@#$ is that RV suppost to do help you its loud and unprofesional.Smith has just been like a black hitler I mean for some who suppose to love blk people who is he hurting so many people. People are afraid to talk here in city hall. thats not a muor we need if any one besides willie flood gets in that office im moving to newark. ***************** End Of Article ****************** david freeland posted Message 7874 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 00:40:55 Subject: Re: rock roller : :maybe they used the video ttape we know you paid for a ticket, but could not tell your wife that you spent the rent money ***************** End Of Article ****************** david freeland posted Message 7875 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 00:54:46 Subject: lipski using school $$$ lipski is stealing money from his school's to pay for his bid for mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Diary posted Message 7876 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 06:04:11 Subject: Re: I tired of the negitve talk ::::Better Ms. Flood. At least this poster shows some semblance of education. But someone who alleges to be a corporate worker would better know how to spell, punctuate and structure a sentence. But this is an improvement. : I'm so tired of all the talk about who is what and how one is going to do a good job over the other. I'm sick and tired of everyone say bad things about mrs flood. This lady worked hard for people all her life look at here track record. Teacher helping children, dir of aging,dir of senior for the county. Now im a tax payer and Im corprate worker. I want someone who is speaking from there hearts about Jersey city and Yes Lou Manzo is Assemblyman but why is the bills that he is getting passed in Trenton not related to the important things happening in jersey city. healy has not been a good councilman so what makes him think he will be a good mayor. Lipski what the h@#$ is that RV suppost to do help you its loud and unprofesional.Smith has just been like a black hitler I mean for some who suppose to love blk people who is he hurting so many people. People are afraid to talk here in city hall. thats not a muor we need if any one besides willie flood gets in that office im moving to newark. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hmmmm.....interesting point of view posted Message 7877 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 06:31:53 Subject: Re: I Think We Agree On One Thing However, Menendez and company aren't the only crooked politicians here. There are plenty of others to share that claim to fame. You don't have to be with the HCDO to be crooked and as far as focussing on who to toss out, I think that we need to toss all of them out, including Manzo and McCann. : I think eveyone in this thread agree on one thing, Menendez and the county organization are corrupt to the core. Nothing good is going to happen in HC/JC until these thugs are thrown out of office. Its their strangle hold on power that copputs them and their utter contempt for the electorate. : Bash Jerry McCann all you want but Lou Manzo is not with the HCDO and he proved last year that they can be beaten . He and Glenn Cunningham proved it. So stop bashing Jerry McCann, he is not going to be mayor. Lets keep the focus on the overthrow of the Menendez HCDO regime. : : : You're right. Where we live has become a national joke and it's simply because people care more about winning than integrity. If you can't teach an old dog a new trick, it is time to get a new dog. : : On who do we look to now, it's obvious. We look to some of the newer residents of Jersey City, especially those that didn't grow up here or are entrenched in the current political scene. We can't depend on the "old timers" to help us out of this mess until they see that we're serious about creating change. I am willing to bet that once positive change starts occuring, there will be many that jump onto the bandwagon. : : We have some "minor candidates" running for mayor and frankly, they have no hope of winning but if those of us who are sickened by the current ways were to vote for these minor candidates and start looking for someone that will step up to the plate for us and then run a serious campaign, we can do it! : : What Jersey City needs is new blood that will say no to the McCanns and the Menendez and all others who want to pay our way into office. We don't need them! We do need our integrity intact if we're really going to do this the right way. : : Vote for the devil that you don't know this time instead of the devils that you do know. You really don't have much to lose. : : : Its a bit shameful that Gerry never did admit guilt to any of the 18 counts that put him behind bars. He denied his guilt right to the end of his trial, through his sentencing, through his incarceration, and now that he's out..its the same old Gerry. I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks...like honesty, fair play, and most of all..integrity. : : : And the greater the role McCann has in Manzo's Assembly Office and now his campaign, the less respect I have for Lou Manzo. But then.... Healy has McCann's old Chief of Staff Buddy Demellier working for him. And no one can tell me that Demellier isn't cut from the same cloth as McCann. : : : So where do we look for leadership in this town? Harvey has failed us. Lipsky.... well he's just Lipsky. And Willie...lacks leadership qualities. What do we have to do to find new blood in JC? ***************** End Of Article ****************** I think it interesting posted Message 7878 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 06:42:18 Subject: Re: I tired of the negitve talk That this poster who is a "corprate worker" says that people are afraid to talk "here" in City Hall. Could this persons "corpration" be the Incorporated Jersey City? And what is a "muor"??? : ::::Better Ms. Flood. At least this poster shows some semblance of education. But someone who alleges to be a corporate worker would better know how to spell, punctuate and structure a sentence. But this is an improvement. : : I'm so tired of all the talk about who is what and how one is going to do a good job over the other. I'm sick and tired of everyone say bad things about mrs flood. This lady worked hard for people all her life look at here track record. Teacher helping children, dir of aging,dir of senior for the county. Now im a tax payer and Im corprate worker. I want someone who is speaking from there hearts about Jersey city and Yes Lou Manzo is Assemblyman but why is the bills that he is getting passed in Trenton not related to the important things happening in jersey city. healy has not been a good councilman so what makes him think he will be a good mayor. Lipski what the h@#$ is that RV suppost to do help you its loud and unprofesional.Smith has just been like a black hitler I mean for some who suppose to love blk people who is he hurting so many people. People are afraid to talk here in city hall. thats not a muor we need if any one besides willie flood gets in that office im moving to newark. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let the Sun Shine In! posted Message 7879 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 08:03:19 Subject: The Play HAIR to be staged by Healy For Mayor As a fund raiser, Healy For Mayor will stage the musical drama HAIR today in the Mosquito Park Gazebo at 12Noon. Jerry Healy will publicly reveal talents that until now were only known to his neighbors on Ferry Street and to vacationers at Bradley Beach. Supporting actors include Heights stars Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan. Direction is by Jim Kennelly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Concerned Citizens posted Message 7880 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 08:27:09 Subject: Healy Poll Results Okay Healy camp, and Tony A, show us the real poll signed by M & A. Even your own supporters do not beleive the results that you claim. Nice try at spin after Sundays NY Times story and the subsequent follow up from other papers. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JC Fair posted Message 7881 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 08:31:16 Subject: Re: Healy Poll Results : Okay Healy camp, and Tony A, show us the real poll signed by M & A. Even your own supporters do not beleive the results that you claim. Nice try at spin after Sundays NY Times story and the subsequent follow up from other papers. Read today's Jersey Journal political insider column. Your post is right on the money (no pun intended) The Healy Poll is a complete fraud and ill attempt at crises control, or just plain old desperation. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lipski % ? posted Message 7882 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 08:52:54 Subject: Re: Healy Poll Results : : Okay Healy camp, and Tony A, show us the real poll signed by M & A. Even your own supporters do not beleive the results that you claim. Nice try at spin after Sundays NY Times story and the subsequent follow up from other papers. : : Read today's Jersey Journal political insider column. Your post is right on the money (no pun intended) The Healy Poll is a complete fraud and ill attempt at crises control, or just plain old desperation. Not being a Lipski supporter I still have to question the 2% that Healy's poll has him at. Lipski gets 2% from his building at St Johns alone. I beleive that Tony A & Buddy D either left out a 1 before the 2 or a o after the 2, giving Lipski either 12% or 20%. I think I would beleive a McCann poll before I would beleive one of theirs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lipski % ? posted Message 7883 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 08:53:00 Subject: Re: Healy Poll Results : : Okay Healy camp, and Tony A, show us the real poll signed by M & A. Even your own supporters do not beleive the results that you claim. Nice try at spin after Sundays NY Times story and the subsequent follow up from other papers. : : Read today's Jersey Journal political insider column. Your post is right on the money (no pun intended) The Healy Poll is a complete fraud and ill attempt at crises control, or just plain old desperation. Not being a Lipski supporter I still have to question the 2% that Healy's poll has him at. Lipski gets 2% from his building at St Johns alone. I beleive that Tony A & Buddy D either left out a 1 before the 2 or a o after the 2, giving Lipski either 12% or 20%. I think I would beleive a McCann poll before I would beleive one of theirs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JC Mayoral posted Message 7884 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 09:07:21 Subject: Healy Poll Results Read the JC Reporter between the lines column today. another Healy explanation of his naked porch scene. It was either the beer, the diabetes or the real poll that showed him in 4th place that caused him to slump over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MANZO GOING DOWN!!! posted Message 7885 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 09:19:05 Subject: Re: Healy Pole YOU CAN'T TRUST LOU MANZO HE WANTS TO GIVE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE BENEFITS MONEY TO HIS FELON BROTHER. DON'T LET IT HAPPEN! DON'T VOTE FOR THE FELONY TICKET! LOU MANZO IS SUPPORTED BY: DISGRACED MAYOR GERALD MCCANN - CONVICTED OF BANK FRAUD DISGRACED COUNTY EXECUTIVE BOB JANISZEWSKI - CONVICTED OF BRIBERY DISGRACED BUSINESSMAN RONALD MANZO - CONVICTED OF INSIDER TRADING DON'T BRING MORE DISGRACE TO OUR OFFICE - KEEP THE MANZOS AWAY FROM OUR MONEY!! Ron Manzo, convicted felon, brother of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and principal at RAM Insurance, has repeatedly tried to takeover benefits administration for Jersey City public employees. The union leaderships has fought against him time and again because we cannot trust public funds and benefits to a man convicted of insider trading. Lou Manzo, partner at RAM Insurance, wants to become Mayor so he can handover millions of dollars in benefits money to his felon brother and make thousands of dollars for himself. Would you let a convicted felon manage public money? ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOONEYLOU posted Message 7886 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 09:20:41 Subject: MANZO GOING DOWN !!! YOU CAN'T TRUST LOU MANZO HE WANTS TO GIVE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE BENEFITS MONEY TO HIS FELON BROTHER. DON'T LET IT HAPPEN! DON'T VOTE FOR THE FELONY TICKET! LOU MANZO IS SUPPORTED BY: DISGRACED MAYOR GERALD MCCANN - CONVICTED OF BANK FRAUD DISGRACED COUNTY EXECUTIVE BOB JANISZEWSKI - CONVICTED OF BRIBERY DISGRACED BUSINESSMAN RONALD MANZO - CONVICTED OF INSIDER TRADING DON'T BRING MORE DISGRACE TO OUR OFFICE - KEEP THE MANZOS AWAY FROM OUR MONEY!! Ron Manzo, convicted felon, brother of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and principal at RAM Insurance, has repeatedly tried to takeover benefits administration for Jersey City public employees. The union leaderships has fought against him time and again because we cannot trust public funds and benefits to a man convicted of insider trading. Lou Manzo, partner at RAM Insurance, wants to become Mayor so he can handover millions of dollars in benefits money to his felon brother and make thousands of dollars for himself. Would you let a convicted felon manage public money? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Other Manzo supporters posted Message 7887 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 09:24:55 Subject: Re: MANZO GOING DOWN !!! : YOU CAN'T TRUST LOU MANZO : HE WANTS TO GIVE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE : BENEFITS MONEY TO HIS FELON BROTHER. : DON'T LET IT HAPPEN! : DON'T VOTE FOR THE FELONY TICKET! : LOU MANZO IS SUPPORTED BY: : DISGRACED MAYOR GERALD MCCANN - : CONVICTED OF BANK FRAUD : DISGRACED COUNTY EXECUTIVE BOB JANISZEWSKI : - CONVICTED OF BRIBERY : DISGRACED BUSINESSMAN RONALD MANZO : - CONVICTED OF INSIDER TRADING : DON'T BRING MORE DISGRACE : TO OUR OFFICE - : KEEP THE MANZOS AWAY : FROM OUR MONEY!! : Ron Manzo, convicted felon, brother of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and : principal at RAM Insurance, has repeatedly tried to takeover benefits administration for Jersey City public employees. : The union leaderships has fought against him time and again because we cannot trust public funds and benefits to a man convicted of insider trading. : Lou Manzo, partner at RAM Insurance, wants to become Mayor so he can handover millions of dollars in benefits money to his felon brother and make thousands of dollars for himself. : Would you let a convicted felon manage public money? Do not forget to mention the other manzo supporters: Paul Byrne, Ed Deak and Chucky (Chesse) Davis. They will all be hosting a fundraiser for Lou at Allenwood federal prison whre Ron will be issued his new uniform. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pay to play Ram posted Message 7888 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 09:33:00 Subject: Ram Insurance Fact- Loe Manzo has been on the payroll of his brothers insurance company for the last 15 years. He also receives commissions on ploicy's that Ram has written for several Jersey City entities such as the JCRA, JCMUA & the JCIA. As Yogi once said "You can look it up" This from a man who cliams to want to abolish pay to play. This money is what funded his Assembly run and 3 past failed Mayoral attempts. He also made money by trading in the same stocks that his brother was convicted of insider trading. All Facts. Just ask him and then see what answer you do not get. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jail posted Message 7889 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 09:37:39 Subject: HCDO Going to You are insane! Look at Healy supporters, DeGise, Gaughan, Demillier. Talk about a bunch of criminals and the organized crime unit they run? The HCDO and thier lackey candidate Healy need to be defeated. Oh! Jerry McCann isn;t running for Mayor A$hole. : YOU CAN'T TRUST LOU MANZO : HE WANTS TO GIVE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE : BENEFITS MONEY TO HIS FELON BROTHER. : DON'T LET IT HAPPEN! : DON'T VOTE FOR THE FELONY TICKET! : LOU MANZO IS SUPPORTED BY: : DISGRACED MAYOR GERALD MCCANN - : CONVICTED OF BANK FRAUD : DISGRACED COUNTY EXECUTIVE BOB JANISZEWSKI : - CONVICTED OF BRIBERY : DISGRACED BUSINESSMAN RONALD MANZO : - CONVICTED OF INSIDER TRADING : DON'T BRING MORE DISGRACE : TO OUR OFFICE - : KEEP THE MANZOS AWAY : FROM OUR MONEY!! : Ron Manzo, convicted felon, brother of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and : principal at RAM Insurance, has repeatedly tried to takeover benefits administration for Jersey City public employees. : The union leaderships has fought against him time and again because we cannot trust public funds and benefits to a man convicted of insider trading. : Lou Manzo, partner at RAM Insurance, wants to become Mayor so he can handover millions of dollars in benefits money to his felon brother and make thousands of dollars for himself. : Would you let a convicted felon manage public money? ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Private Company posted Message 7890 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 09:43:57 Subject: Re: Ram Insurance You missing one BIG fact, RAM Insurance is a private company, not a government entity. HAve you ever had a job in the private sector? Have you ever had to actually work for the paycheck you cash? Private companies can hire anyone they want to and compensate them as they so desire. Its not pay to play. Why don;t you ask if Lou Manzo claimed the income he was paid by RAM Insurance on his tax return. If he did, he did nothing wrong, if he didn't than he would be as guilty as the crew from the county who have made pay-to-play an art form. : Fact- Loe Manzo has been on the payroll of his brothers insurance company for the last 15 years. He also receives commissions on ploicy's that Ram has written for several Jersey City entities such as the JCRA, JCMUA & the JCIA. As Yogi once said "You can look it up" This from a man who cliams to want to abolish pay to play. This money is what funded his Assembly run and 3 past failed Mayoral attempts. He also made money by trading in the same stocks that his brother was convicted of insider trading. All Facts. Just ask him and then see what answer you do not get. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bye Bye Jerry posted Message 7891 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 09:48:16 Subject: Healy Going to Rehab Keep trying to deflect attention away form the pitiful excuse for a candidate-Jerry Healy. Guilt by association doesn;t work and you know it. The voters are going to compare the records of the candidates, Lou-Assembly, Jerry, Drinking record holder at the Astor BAr - 68 beers in one night. : : YOU CAN'T TRUST LOU MANZO : : HE WANTS TO GIVE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE : : BENEFITS MONEY TO HIS FELON BROTHER. : : DON'T LET IT HAPPEN! : : DON'T VOTE FOR THE FELONY TICKET! : : LOU MANZO IS SUPPORTED BY: : : DISGRACED MAYOR GERALD MCCANN - : : CONVICTED OF BANK FRAUD : : DISGRACED COUNTY EXECUTIVE BOB JANISZEWSKI : : - CONVICTED OF BRIBERY : : DISGRACED BUSINESSMAN RONALD MANZO : : - CONVICTED OF INSIDER TRADING : : DON'T BRING MORE DISGRACE : : TO OUR OFFICE - : : KEEP THE MANZOS AWAY : : FROM OUR MONEY!! : : Ron Manzo, convicted felon, brother of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and : : principal at RAM Insurance, has repeatedly tried to takeover benefits administration for Jersey City public employees. : : The union leaderships has fought against him time and again because we cannot trust public funds and benefits to a man convicted of insider trading. : : Lou Manzo, partner at RAM Insurance, wants to become Mayor so he can handover millions of dollars in benefits money to his felon brother and make thousands of dollars for himself. : : Would you let a convicted felon manage public money? : : Do not forget to mention the other manzo supporters: Paul Byrne, Ed Deak and Chucky (Chesse) Davis. They will all be hosting a fundraiser for Lou at Allenwood federal prison whre Ron will be issued his new uniform. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Its All Spin posted Message 7892 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 09:51:11 Subject: Re: Healy Poll Results COuld be Buddie made a mistake. I see him drinking more than campaigning. Buddie, have you ever left Downtown after night? : : : Okay Healy camp, and Tony A, show us the real poll signed by M & A. Even your own supporters do not beleive the results that you claim. Nice try at spin after Sundays NY Times story and the subsequent follow up from other papers. : : : : Read today's Jersey Journal political insider column. Your post is right on the money (no pun intended) The Healy Poll is a complete fraud and ill attempt at crises control, or just plain old desperation. : Not being a Lipski supporter I still have to question the 2% that Healy's poll has him at. Lipski gets 2% from his building at St Johns alone. I beleive that Tony A & Buddy D either left out a 1 before the 2 or a o after the 2, giving Lipski either 12% or 20%. I think I would beleive a McCann poll before I would beleive one of theirs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** From The Jersey Journal posted Message 7893 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 09:58:20 Subject: Healy Poll Is Bogus THE JJ Political Insider column today questions the validity of the Healy poll, Check it out! http://www.nj.com/columns/jjournal/insider/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/109791785470752.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** MY EYES! MY EYES! I'M GOING BLIND!! posted Message 7894 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 10:59:12 Subject: Re: The Play HAIR to be staged by Healy For Mayor : As a fund raiser, Healy For Mayor will stage the musical drama HAIR today in the Mosquito Park Gazebo at 12Noon. : Jerry Healy will publicly reveal talents that until now were only known to his neighbors on Ferry Street and to vacationers at Bradley Beach. : Supporting actors include Heights stars Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan. : Direction is by Jim Kennelly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The whole campaign has been a fraud! posted Message 7895 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 11:17:06 Subject: What'd you expect? Healy's been a candidate without a single proposal. The whole campaign has been made up of tearing down other candidates signs, lying that Schundler was backing Healy and trying to confuse voters into believing that Kerry actually cared about Healy getting into the mayor's office in Jersey City. And I got to laugh about the pictures with Tom Disgrace, who was rejected by Jersey City in favor of Melba Walsh of Bayonne. Nature Boy goes and passes out drank and naked in the street. Seeing that he don't even know enough to save Jersey City the embarassment and quitting, Healy has no shame at all. And in the entire town, this is who Degise and Gaughan fix on for being the most qualified to serve as mayor, drunk out of his mind Healy. : THE JJ Political Insider column today questions the validity of the Healy poll, : Check it out! : http://www.nj.com/columns/jjournal/insider/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/109791785470752.xml ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pay to Play Ram posted Message 7896 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:11:25 Subject: Re: Ram Insurance : You missing one BIG fact, RAM Insurance is a private company, not a government entity. HAve you ever had a job in the private sector? Have you ever had to actually work for the paycheck you cash? Private companies can hire anyone they want to and compensate them as they so desire. Its not pay to play. : Why don;t you ask if Lou Manzo claimed the income he was paid by RAM Insurance on his tax return. If he did, he did nothing wrong, if he didn't than he would be as guilty as the crew from the county who have made pay-to-play an art form. You are right Ram Insurance is a private company that has donated heavily to every county and city administration in the past 20 years. As a result of these extremely large political contributions, Ram Insurance received numerous City & County insurance contracts while Lou Manzo was not only on the payroll but was also personaly compensated with commissions for these govermental contracts that he was credited with selling. I hope the hell he paid his taxes on this money. He is the canditate that is screaming about pay to play and he is the hypocrite that has benefitted from this practice for over 15 years and his campaigns have been funded by this same money. By the way, does Lou have a property and casualty license from the State of NJ division of banking and insurance? because if he does not then he cannot legaly receive any form of financial compensation from the sale of any insurance contracts, private or governmental.Another good question for Lou Manzo to answer (or alert his lawyer) : : : Fact- Loe Manzo has been on the payroll of his brothers insurance company for the last 15 years. He also receives commissions on ploicy's that Ram has written for several Jersey City entities such as the JCRA, JCMUA & the JCIA. As Yogi once said "You can look it up" This from a man who cliams to want to abolish pay to play. This money is what funded his Assembly run and 3 past failed Mayoral attempts. He also made money by trading in the same stocks that his brother was convicted of insider trading. All Facts. Just ask him and then see what answer you do not get. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Farmland Dairies posted Message 7897 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:16:53 Subject: We have 2% - LIPSKI has 12 -15% and rising! Healy don't milk it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Citizen's Watchgroup posted Message 7898 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:22:25 Subject: Re: Dont drink the Kool Aid - Poll bogus - LIPSKI is rising- we see it! Healy camp desperate ***************** End Of Article ****************** QUINNAPIAC posted Message 7899 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:26:11 Subject: HEALY "BARES" ALL IN POLL - Shows nothing! BYE BYE ***************** End Of Article ****************** TRUTH posted Message 7900 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:28:55 Subject: Healy confused - Manzo convicted - LIPSKI predicted to win Vote Lipski and save Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerzzycity posted Message 7901 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:30:48 Subject: Re: LIPSKI LIPSKI LIPSKI : Vote Lipski and save Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** Real poll posted Message 7902 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:31:26 Subject: Real Poll (Pole) The only real pole in this whole Mayoral poll is Steve Lipski. The real results: Lipski 22% Flood 11% Smith 7% Healy 5% Manzo 3% Healy's poll had the decimal points in the wrong place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth be Told posted Message 7903 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:36:00 Subject: Insurance License A very good question was asked on a previous post. Does Louis Manzo have an insurance licensed? If not that could be a problem. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth be Told posted Message 7903 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:36:00 Subject: Insurance License A very good question was asked on a previous post. Does Louis Manzo have an insurance licensed? If not that could be a problem. ***************** End Of Article ****************** kokie posted Message 7904 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:37:32 Subject: Re: LOEWS's host show starring: Lease Harvey Smith, Jerry "tiny bubbles" Healy, Lou "lawbreaker" Manzo : : Vote Lipski and save Jersey City Vote Lipski and save Jersey City ***************** End Of Article ****************** dailleztbabyboy posted Message 7905 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:42:44 Subject: LIPSKI next mayor says HCDO- HEALY to concede at ASTOR BAR Healy concedes at ASTor Bar ***************** End Of Article ****************** CELL BLOCK M (MCMANZO) posted Message 7906 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:47:10 Subject: Danny Mcman drops the soap- Manzo bends over - LIPSKI TAKES LEAD fUDGE PACKERS ***************** End Of Article ****************** REPUBLICANS FOR LIPSKI posted Message 7907 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:50:58 Subject: SCHUNDLER AND LIPSKI PERFECT TOGETHER INDEPENDENTS AND REPUBLICANS VOTE LIPSKI ***************** End Of Article ****************** FAMILY VALUES posted Message 7908 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:52:58 Subject: Re: HEALY DRUNK AND NAKED - MANZO GAY AND CORRUPT- VOTE LIPSKI ! : INDEPENDENTS AND REPUBLICANS VOTE LIPSKI ***************** End Of Article ****************** MAYORLIPSKI posted Message 7909 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 12:56:09 Subject: Re: LIPSKI PASSIONATE, POLISHED, AND PREPARED : : INDEPENDENTS AND REPUBLICANS VOTE LIPSKI ***************** End Of Article ****************** Is Still Gay! posted Message 7910 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 13:20:03 Subject: Tony Amabile Let's not forget who published the bogus poll from the bogus polling company, his sweetness himself, Tony Amabile. What are you going to do for an encore? Raise Mayor Hague from the dead? ***************** End Of Article ****************** He's Runnung For Mayor! posted Message 7911 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 13:27:40 Subject: Re: Insurance License Where were you when brains were given out? : A very good question was asked on a previous post. Does Louis Manzo have an insurance licensed? If not that could be a problem. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Did You see the Front Cover of Naturally? posted Message 7912 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 13:30:19 Subject: Healy's Fans Could that be your fearless leader posing on the front cover of Naturally, (On the top of this page) Don't worry the real deal will be coming out this week. The un-decided voters of JC are going to love those pic's! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ANTHONY SHOWS HIS STRIPES posted Message 7913 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 13:44:47 Subject: GET NJ BIAS TOO APPARENT Anthony..."How about Gay in America" Magazine? How about posting some NAMBLA (Natl Man Boy Love Association) Newsletters? Your posting of this magazine cover has shown your extreme bias and made you a partisan in this election. There is no question about where you stand now. Anyone who visits this site will see a clear indication that you have no right to profess impartiality any longer. YOU ANTHONY are a partisan. Thanks for showing your stripes. : Could that be your fearless leader posing on the front cover of Naturally, (On the top of this page) : Don't worry the real deal will be coming out this week. : The un-decided voters of JC are going to love those pic's! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ram Ins posted Message 7914 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 13:50:32 Subject: Re: Insurance License : Where were you when brains were given out? No kidding he is running for Mayor, genius. If he is not legaly licensed by the Stae of NJ Insurance commission then he cannot legaly accept payments from a licensed insurance company, such as Ram. Who is your legal advisor, Gerry McCann? : : : A very good question was asked on a previous post. Does Louis Manzo have an insurance licensed? If not that could be a problem. ***************** End Of Article ****************** But the point is..... posted Message 7915 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 14:37:59 Subject: Re: HCDO Going to None of the County golf you've named have been JAILED like good ole Gerry. : You are insane! Look at Healy supporters, DeGise, Gaughan, Demillier. Talk about a bunch of criminals and the organized crime unit they run? The HCDO and thier lackey candidate Healy need to be defeated. : Oh! Jerry McCann isn;t running for Mayor A$hole. : : : YOU CAN'T TRUST LOU MANZO : : HE WANTS TO GIVE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE : : BENEFITS MONEY TO HIS FELON BROTHER. : : DON'T LET IT HAPPEN! : : DON'T VOTE FOR THE FELONY TICKET! : : LOU MANZO IS SUPPORTED BY: : : DISGRACED MAYOR GERALD MCCANN - : : CONVICTED OF BANK FRAUD : : DISGRACED COUNTY EXECUTIVE BOB JANISZEWSKI : : - CONVICTED OF BRIBERY : : DISGRACED BUSINESSMAN RONALD MANZO : : - CONVICTED OF INSIDER TRADING : : DON'T BRING MORE DISGRACE : : TO OUR OFFICE - : : KEEP THE MANZOS AWAY : : FROM OUR MONEY!! : : Ron Manzo, convicted felon, brother of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and : : principal at RAM Insurance, has repeatedly tried to takeover benefits administration for Jersey City public employees. : : The union leaderships has fought against him time and again because we cannot trust public funds and benefits to a man convicted of insider trading. : : Lou Manzo, partner at RAM Insurance, wants to become Mayor so he can handover millions of dollars in benefits money to his felon brother and make thousands of dollars for himself. : : Would you let a convicted felon manage public money? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Reporter posted Message 7916 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 15:12:09 Subject: NO MORE MANZO AND HEALY Schundler and Lipsky will build a safer more hopeful Jersey City . He's the only guy not spreading negative vibes throughout our city. I'm tired of McCann with his criminal record and the Healy Campaign with their ties to the corrupt machine. Those two are engaging in the dirty politics of yesteryear jersey city. It's time to make the city clean again, make the city vibrant again, and be proud of where we live. A Manzo or Healy Mayoralty will breed more embarrassment for every city resident. Don't let it happen. Vote for reform, vote for clean living. Vote Lipski! And before you do ask yourself, are you better off today than when Schundler was Mayor. My guess is no, youre not better off. Neither am I. That's why i'm glad bret finally got involved again in jc and i'm glad he did it for an honest guy like lipski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The whole story posted Message 7917 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 16:02:30 Subject: Wanna see Lipsky's Mug Shot when he was booked? You have to be kidding. We haven't gone out against Lipski because basically he was a good little boy and sat in the corner and shut up. But if you want us to post his mug shot and booking photo...we'd be glad to. Then we will see who is looked at as a criminal or a deviant, or corrupt. : Schundler and Lipsky will build a safer more hopeful Jersey City . He's the only guy not spreading negative vibes throughout our city. I'm tired of McCann with his criminal record and the Healy Campaign with their ties to the corrupt machine. Those two are engaging in the dirty politics of yesteryear jersey city. It's time to make the city clean again, make the city vibrant again, and be proud of where we live. : A Manzo or Healy Mayoralty will breed more embarrassment for every city resident. Don't let it happen. Vote for reform, vote for clean living. Vote Lipski! And before you do ask yourself, are you better off today than when Schundler was Mayor. My guess is no, youre not better off. Neither am I. That's why i'm glad bret finally got involved again in jc and i'm glad he did it for an honest guy like lipski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Always Knew It posted Message 7918 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 16:05:16 Subject: Anthony was always a partisan Anyone who ever thought this web site was non-partisan has their head in the clouds. If you only knew the number of postings Anthony has pulled down that were positive for Healy... you would be disgusted. Now He posts this crap on his front page? What a low blow....but not unexpected. : Anthony..."How about Gay in America" Magazine? How about posting some NAMBLA (Natl Man Boy Love Association) Newsletters? Your posting of this magazine cover has shown your extreme bias and made you a partisan in this election. There is no question about where you stand now. Anyone who visits this site will see a clear indication that you have no right to profess impartiality any longer. YOU ANTHONY are a partisan. Thanks for showing your stripes. : : Could that be your fearless leader posing on the front cover of Naturally, (On the top of this page) : : Don't worry the real deal will be coming out this week. : : The un-decided voters of JC are going to love those pic's! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lipski is Slime posted Message 7919 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 16:07:28 Subject: Low Blowjob By Lipski Lipski is showing his true colors. And watch Anthoy begin pulling anything pro-Healy or Pro-Manzo a few days before the election. Looks like we know where his vote will be cast. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC Reporter posted Message 7920 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 16:12:36 Subject: Lipski Campaign About to Implode Its a fact... Lipski's main supporters are pulling the plug on his financing now that the latest polls show that he hasn't made any gains over the past 4 weeks. His numbers remain in the single digits and his campaign is slowly fading. Several of his operatives have approached both Healy and Manzo looking for a way out of the loss column and for a job with one of the two lead contenders. The only mailers and tv you will see in the coming weeks are what has already been ordered and paid for. Lipsky's campaign is broke and taking on water fast. If you are a vendor that has done for his camopaign and he owes you money, it is advisable to get paid sooner than later. Once he loses...and closes up shop, you're screwed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wrong again posted Message 7921 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 16:52:05 Subject: Re: Lipski Campaign About to Implode : Its a fact... Lipski's main supporters are pulling the plug on his financing now that the latest polls show that he hasn't made any gains over the past 4 weeks. His numbers remain in the single digits and his campaign is slowly fading. : Several of his operatives have approached both Healy and Manzo looking for a way out of the loss column and for a job with one of the two lead contenders. The only mailers and tv you will see in the coming weeks are what has already been ordered and paid for. Lipsky's campaign is broke and taking on water fast. : If you are a vendor that has done for his camopaign and he owes you money, it is advisable to get paid sooner than later. Once he loses...and closes up shop, you're screwed. Lipski, like his supporters, do not have, nor do they seek any political hack jobs. His campaign is also doing financialy healthy. Thank you ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerzzycity posted Message 7922 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 17:26:40 Subject: Re: WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS = LIPSKI LIPSKI LIPSKI : None of the County golf you've named have been JAILED like good ole Gerry. : : You are insane! Look at Healy supporters, DeGise, Gaughan, Demillier. Talk about a bunch of criminals and the organized crime unit they run? The HCDO and thier lackey candidate Healy need to be defeated. : : Oh! Jerry McCann isn;t running for Mayor A$hole. : : : : : YOU CAN'T TRUST LOU MANZO : : : HE WANTS TO GIVE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE : : : BENEFITS MONEY TO HIS FELON BROTHER. : : : DON'T LET IT HAPPEN! : : : DON'T VOTE FOR THE FELONY TICKET! : : : LOU MANZO IS SUPPORTED BY: : : : DISGRACED MAYOR GERALD MCCANN - : : : CONVICTED OF BANK FRAUD : : : DISGRACED COUNTY EXECUTIVE BOB JANISZEWSKI : : : - CONVICTED OF BRIBERY : : : DISGRACED BUSINESSMAN RONALD MANZO : : : - CONVICTED OF INSIDER TRADING : : : DON'T BRING MORE DISGRACE : : : TO OUR OFFICE - : : : KEEP THE MANZOS AWAY : : : FROM OUR MONEY!! : : : Ron Manzo, convicted felon, brother of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and : : : principal at RAM Insurance, has repeatedly tried to takeover benefits administration for Jersey City public employees. : : : The union leaderships has fought against him time and again because we cannot trust public funds and benefits to a man convicted of insider trading. : : : Lou Manzo, partner at RAM Insurance, wants to become Mayor so he can handover millions of dollars in benefits money to his felon brother and make thousands of dollars for himself. : : : Would you let a convicted felon manage public money? ***************** End Of Article ****************** What the hell kind of math does Flipski teach you kids? posted Message 7923 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 17:26:44 Subject: Re: Real Poll (Pole) : The only real pole in this whole Mayoral poll is Steve Lipski. : The real results: : Lipski 22% : Flood 11% : Smith 7% : Healy 5% : Manzo 3% : Healy's poll had the decimal points in the wrong place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7924 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 17:27:52 Subject: Not a single post was removed that applauded Healy. You are mistaken. (My father always told me never to call anybody a liar). Not a single post was removed that applauded Healy. : Anyone who ever thought this web site was non-partisan has their head in the clouds. If you only knew the number of postings Anthony has pulled down that were positive for Healy... you would be disgusted. Now He posts this crap on his front page? What a low blow....but not unexpected. : : Anthony..."How about Gay in America" Magazine? How about posting some NAMBLA (Natl Man Boy Love Association) Newsletters? Your posting of this magazine cover has shown your extreme bias and made you a partisan in this election. There is no question about where you stand now. Anyone who visits this site will see a clear indication that you have no right to profess impartiality any longer. YOU ANTHONY are a partisan. Thanks for showing your stripes. : : : Could that be your fearless leader posing on the front cover of Naturally, (On the top of this page) : : : Don't worry the real deal will be coming out this week. : : : The un-decided voters of JC are going to love those pic's! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy like Amabile dropping posted Message 7925 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 17:28:41 Subject: Re: HCDO poll had LIPSKI at 12 % - Amabile dropped a digit : Its a fact... Lipski's main supporters are pulling the plug on his financing now that the latest polls show that he hasn't made any gains over the past 4 weeks. His numbers remain in the single digits and his campaign is slowly fading. : Several of his operatives have approached both Healy and Manzo looking for a way out of the loss column and for a job with one of the two lead contenders. The only mailers and tv you will see in the coming weeks are what has already been ordered and paid for. Lipsky's campaign is broke and taking on water fast. : If you are a vendor that has done for his camopaign and he owes you money, it is advisable to get paid sooner than later. Once he loses...and closes up shop, you're screwed. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerzzycity posted Message 7926 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 17:30:54 Subject: Re: LIPSKI's mug is all over JC : You have to be kidding. We haven't gone out against Lipski because basically he was a good little boy and sat in the corner and shut up. But if you want us to post his mug shot and booking photo...we'd be glad to. Then we will see who is looked at as a criminal or a deviant, or corrupt. : : Schundler and Lipsky will build a safer more hopeful Jersey City . He's the only guy not spreading negative vibes throughout our city. I'm tired of McCann with his criminal record and the Healy Campaign with their ties to the corrupt machine. Those two are engaging in the dirty politics of yesteryear jersey city. It's time to make the city clean again, make the city vibrant again, and be proud of where we live. : : A Manzo or Healy Mayoralty will breed more embarrassment for every city resident. Don't let it happen. Vote for reform, vote for clean living. Vote Lipski! And before you do ask yourself, are you better off today than when Schundler was Mayor. My guess is no, youre not better off. Neither am I. That's why i'm glad bret finally got involved again in jc and i'm glad he did it for an honest guy like lipski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** notbush posted Message 7927 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 18:23:22 Subject: Re: Healy Poll Is Bogus Dont Vote for Bush. Kids teenagers tell your parents Bush is bad for the country. http://nogeorgebush.blogspot.com/ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lipski posted Message 7928 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 18:49:04 Subject: Tony Amabile Wants to Give You a Tony is at it again! Now he's working for Lipski. Tony will give anyone a Lipski if they vote for the guy. : : Its a fact... Lipski's main supporters are pulling the plug on his financing now that the latest polls show that he hasn't made any gains over the past 4 weeks. His numbers remain in the single digits and his campaign is slowly fading. : : Several of his operatives have approached both Healy and Manzo looking for a way out of the loss column and for a job with one of the two lead contenders. The only mailers and tv you will see in the coming weeks are what has already been ordered and paid for. Lipsky's campaign is broke and taking on water fast. : : If you are a vendor that has done for his camopaign and he owes you money, it is advisable to get paid sooner than later. Once he loses...and closes up shop, you're screwed. : Lipski, like his supporters, do not have, nor do they seek any political hack jobs. His campaign is also doing financialy healthy. Thank you ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's Because His Supporters Can't Write posted Message 7929 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 18:53:52 Subject: Re: Not a single post was removed that applauded Healy. That's right the imbiciles supporting Healy can't read or write, they only have to know how to take orders from the HCDO. : You are mistaken. (My father always told me never to call anybody a liar). : Not a single post was removed that applauded Healy. : : Anyone who ever thought this web site was non-partisan has their head in the clouds. If you only knew the number of postings Anthony has pulled down that were positive for Healy... you would be disgusted. Now He posts this crap on his front page? What a low blow....but not unexpected. : : : Anthony..."How about Gay in America" Magazine? How about posting some NAMBLA (Natl Man Boy Love Association) Newsletters? Your posting of this magazine cover has shown your extreme bias and made you a partisan in this election. There is no question about where you stand now. Anyone who visits this site will see a clear indication that you have no right to profess impartiality any longer. YOU ANTHONY are a partisan. Thanks for showing your stripes. : : : : Could that be your fearless leader posing on the front cover of Naturally, (On the top of this page) : : : : Don't worry the real deal will be coming out this week. : : : : The un-decided voters of JC are going to love those pic's! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMES RIVERA posted Message 7930 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 18:56:08 Subject: SPANISH FOR HEALY TODAY SATURDAY OCT 16 JERRY HEALY WALKED THE HISPANIC AREAS OF THE HEIGHTS AND WAS WARMLY GREETED A HEAVY VOTE ON NOVEMBER 2ND WILL PUT HEALY OVER THE TOP FOR A VICTORY OVER MANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Questions Poll Paid for by Healy posted Message 7931 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 19:05:43 Subject: Political Insider POLITICAL INSIDER Ties to pollster taints numbers Saturday, October 16, 2004 Most camps in the Jersey City mayoral race do their polls to see where their candidates stand and to come up with strategies to improve their position. It is when poll results are released that you have to wonder about their validity - particularly when the candidate who is the beneficiary of the results releases it and he or she is also the person who commissioned it. This brings us to the polling results in the race to complete the remaining seven months of the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's term. The poll was conducted for Councilman at Large Jerramiah Healy by McLaughlin & Associates, with offices in Blauvelt, N.Y., and Alexandria, Va. The poll shows Healy ahead of state Assemblyman Lou Manzo by nearly 3 points, 24.7 to 22. It has acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith next, at 13, followed by former Councilwoman Willie Flood, 11, Councilman Steve Lipski, 2, and no one else on the radar. There also is 27.3 percent undecided. McLaughlin & Associates is considered a reputable polling firm in many circles, though some consider it a Republican-friendly polling firm. The problem is that it has a business relationship with Healy campaign leader Buddy Demellier, who has been known to hand out M&A business cards. The survey sampling is 300 likely voters, taken Oct. 10-11. The number of voters surveyed is considered small, and Oct. 10 also was the date of an interesting New York Times article reviewing the Jersey City election. Back in September, the pollster had Healy with 13.3 and Manzo on top with 19.7. Smith was second with 16. This suggests a monumental leap to the top for Healy in just one month. Is the councilman in trouble? Hudson County Executive Tom DeGise has a lot invested in Healy. The Jersey City Democratic Party picked their candidate and pretty much turned away any influence by the county Dems and U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez, who apparently decided not to support any candidate and just deal with whoever gets in office. It didn't stop the Jersey City clan of the Dems from going around and asking for and getting some campaign money from the other Hudson mayors, according to one of those chief executives. The problem came two weeks ago, when they went around for a second helping of funding assistance from the mayors - and were shut out, according to several Democrats close to the city and county organizations. OK, how does one deal with this perceived lack of faith? Some in the county suggest that this was the objective of the poll - provide optimism. Look for the Healy camp to start throwing everything into this battle over the next two weeks. The tactic will be to convince voters that a vote for Manzo is a vote for former Mayor Gerry McCann. There are already small orange stickers linking Manzo and McCann being placed on the assemblyman's campaign posters. "People are turned off by McCann," said Paul Swibinski, of Vision Media Marketing of Secaucus. "This is a man who had urin-ated in City Hall offices when he left. This is the man who Lou Manzo associates with?" Swibinski said he has not been hired as a media consultant by the Healy camp, although he did say his firm did a Spanish-language television spot for the councilman. While Manzo said that McCann does not speak for him and that the former mayor will not be a part of his city administration, the state Assemblyman wonders aloud how it was OK for McCann to work with his opponents in the past, and suddenly becomes a menace because he supports Manzo. Still, there is some uneasiness within Manzo's Ward A club, where his backers would rather not rub shoulders with McCann. Look for more McCann attacks - if you can picture this. Healy supporters say there will be much more said about Manzo's recommendation to hire Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. Mayoral candidate Steve Lipski made the charge two weeks ago in the city's first mayoral debate at the Loew's Jersey Theater. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No Mas for Healy posted Message 7932 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 19:06:31 Subject: Re: SPANISH FOR HEALY : TODAY SATURDAY OCT 16 JERRY HEALY : WALKED THE HISPANIC AREAS OF THE HEIGHTS AND WAS WARMLY GREETED : A HEAVY VOTE ON NOVEMBER 2ND WILL PUT HEALY OVER THE TOP : FOR A VICTORY OVER MANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MIRIAM OTTMAN posted Message 7933 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 19:09:24 Subject: THE HEAL EXPRESS. THE JERRAMIAH HEALY EXPRESS TO VICTORY IS ROLLING FAST. GET ON BOARD .HEALY IS LEADING ON ALL POLLS TAKEN BY HIS OPPONENTS. LOU MANZO WONT RELEASE HIS I WONDER WHY? EVEN HIS BROTHER IS ADMITTING A DEFEAT IS IMMENANT AND SAYS MCCANN IS TO BLAME FOR HIS NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNING. MANZO WILL BE CRUSHED IN THE HEIGHTS AND GREENVILLE SECTIONS OF THE CITY THAT HE EXPECTED TO WIN HE WILL ALSO GO DOWN TO DEFEAT IN THE DOWNTOWN WARD "E" EVERY RESPECTED HISPANIC LEADER IS ON BOARD WITH JERRY.ALL LABOR UNIONS ARE WITH HIM. LOADS OF ENDORSEMENT ADS WILL BE FORTHCOMING. IT WILL BE OVERWHELMING. SO GET USED TO IT JERRAMIAH HEALY IS THE NEXT MAYOR OF JERSEY CITY.SO KEEP THE NEGATIVE POST COMING ON THIS BOARD AND PILE UP THE VOTES FOR HEALY. GOD BLESS AMERICA . GGGGGGGGG000000000 HEALY GOOOOOO!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** And He Adores George Bush posted Message 7934 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 19:09:45 Subject: Re: LIPSKI PASSIONATE, POLISHED, AND PREPARED I'll take old fashioned politicians from JC over George Bush anyday. Lipski will get as much support as Shundler got from the State republican Party -zlich! : : : INDEPENDENTS AND REPUBLICANS VOTE LIPSKI ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just One! posted Message 7935 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 19:12:02 Subject: Name One Endoresement You Talk About Spin, spin spin, your dizzier than Jerry. Come on, let's have the name of one of the people/organizations you mentioned. . : THE JERRAMIAH HEALY EXPRESS TO VICTORY IS ROLLING FAST. : GET ON BOARD .HEALY IS LEADING ON ALL POLLS TAKEN BY HIS OPPONENTS. LOU MANZO WONT RELEASE HIS I WONDER WHY? : EVEN HIS BROTHER IS ADMITTING A DEFEAT IS IMMENANT : AND SAYS MCCANN IS TO BLAME FOR HIS NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNING. : MANZO WILL BE CRUSHED IN THE HEIGHTS AND GREENVILLE SECTIONS OF THE CITY THAT HE EXPECTED TO WIN HE WILL ALSO GO DOWN TO DEFEAT IN THE DOWNTOWN WARD "E" EVERY RESPECTED HISPANIC LEADER IS ON BOARD WITH JERRY.ALL LABOR UNIONS ARE WITH HIM. : LOADS OF ENDORSEMENT ADS WILL BE FORTHCOMING. : IT WILL BE OVERWHELMING. : SO GET USED TO IT JERRAMIAH HEALY IS THE NEXT MAYOR OF JERSEY CITY.SO KEEP THE NEGATIVE POST COMING ON THIS BOARD AND PILE UP THE VOTES FOR HEALY. : GOD BLESS AMERICA . GGGGGGGGG000000000 HEALY GOOOOOO!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy supporter posted Message 7936 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 19:21:07 Subject: Re: Not a single post was removed that applauded Healy. : That's right the imbiciles supporting Healy can't read or write, they only have to know how to take orders from the HCDO. ::::::I suppose you mean "imbecile", genius.? : : You are mistaken. (My father always told me never to call anybody a liar). : : Not a single post was removed that applauded Healy. : : : Anyone who ever thought this web site was non-partisan has their head in the clouds. If you only knew the number of postings Anthony has pulled down that were positive for Healy... you would be disgusted. Now He posts this crap on his front page? What a low blow....but not unexpected. : : : : Anthony..."How about Gay in America" Magazine? How about posting some NAMBLA (Natl Man Boy Love Association) Newsletters? Your posting of this magazine cover has shown your extreme bias and made you a partisan in this election. There is no question about where you stand now. Anyone who visits this site will see a clear indication that you have no right to profess impartiality any longer. YOU ANTHONY are a partisan. Thanks for showing your stripes. : : : : : Could that be your fearless leader posing on the front cover of Naturally, (On the top of this page) : : : : : Don't worry the real deal will be coming out this week. : : : : : The un-decided voters of JC are going to love those pic's! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7937 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 19:43:34 Subject: The Times scores a point with this one. Regularly, I pride myself on being aware of what's flying around in the dark, but this one whizzed by me. For months I've heard the story that Healy was photographed drunk and naked in the street. The story was so bizarre that I didn't check it out. After all, how could something like that be true? Well, the NY Times did check it out. If after that article you now expect a vow of silence, you're nuts! : : Could that be your fearless leader posing on the front cover of Naturally, (On the top of this page) : : Don't worry the real deal will be coming out this week. : : The un-decided voters of JC are going to love those pic's! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sounds more like a testimonial that he did walk posted Message 7938 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 19:58:04 Subject: Re: SPANISH FOR HEALY :::Hope he had a translator and an armed guard. : TODAY SATURDAY OCT 16 JERRY HEALY : WALKED THE HISPANIC AREAS OF THE HEIGHTS AND WAS WARMLY GREETED : A HEAVY VOTE ON NOVEMBER 2ND WILL PUT HEALY OVER THE TOP : FOR A VICTORY OVER MANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say WHAT? posted Message 7939 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 20:17:54 Subject: Re: Lipski Campaign About to Implode Doing Financially Healthy? But Grammatically BROKE. : : Its a fact... Lipski's main supporters are pulling the plug on his financing now that the latest polls show that he hasn't made any gains over the past 4 weeks. His numbers remain in the single digits and his campaign is slowly fading. : : Several of his operatives have approached both Healy and Manzo looking for a way out of the loss column and for a job with one of the two lead contenders. The only mailers and tv you will see in the coming weeks are what has already been ordered and paid for. Lipsky's campaign is broke and taking on water fast. : : If you are a vendor that has done for his camopaign and he owes you money, it is advisable to get paid sooner than later. Once he loses...and closes up shop, you're screwed. : Lipski, like his supporters, do not have, nor do they seek any political hack jobs. His campaign is also doing financialy healthy. Thank you ***************** End Of Article ****************** Horny bout Healy posted Message 7940 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 20:31:49 Subject: Re: SPANISH FLY FOR HEALY : TODAY SATURDAY OCT 16 JERRY HEALY : WALKED THE HISPANIC AREAS OF THE HEIGHTS AND WAS WARMLY GREETED : A HEAVY VOTE ON NOVEMBER 2ND WILL PUT HEALY OVER THE TOP : FOR A VICTORY OVER MANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Avenger posted Message 7941 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 22:15:57 Subject: Re: Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! : Running with Kerry? Candidate for Jersey City Mayor is drunk and naked on his front porch! OK. We have the drunk, you got the felon and the fag. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Avenger posted Message 7942 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 22:17:36 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile : Let's not forget who published the bogus poll from the bogus polling company, his sweetness himself, Tony Amabile. : What are you going to do for an encore? Raise Mayor Hague from the dead? WHAT, HE DIED? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Avenger posted Message 7943 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 22:23:06 Subject: Re: MANZO GOING DOWN !!! : Manzo going down? On Who? : YOU CAN'T TRUST LOU MANZO : : HE WANTS TO GIVE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE : : BENEFITS MONEY TO HIS FELON BROTHER. : : DON'T LET IT HAPPEN! : : DON'T VOTE FOR THE FELONY TICKET! : : LOU MANZO IS SUPPORTED BY: : : DISGRACED MAYOR GERALD MCCANN - : : CONVICTED OF BANK FRAUD : : DISGRACED COUNTY EXECUTIVE BOB JANISZEWSKI : : - CONVICTED OF BRIBERY : : DISGRACED BUSINESSMAN RONALD MANZO : : - CONVICTED OF INSIDER TRADING : : DON'T BRING MORE DISGRACE : : TO OUR OFFICE - : : KEEP THE MANZOS AWAY : : FROM OUR MONEY!! : : Ron Manzo, convicted felon, brother of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and : : principal at RAM Insurance, has repeatedly tried to takeover benefits administration for Jersey City public employees. : : The union leaderships has fought against him time and again because we cannot trust public funds and benefits to a man convicted of insider trading. : : Lou Manzo, partner at RAM Insurance, wants to become Mayor so he can handover millions of dollars in benefits money to his felon brother and make thousands of dollars for himself. : : Would you let a convicted felon manage public money? : : Do not forget to mention the other manzo supporters: Paul Byrne, Ed Deak and Chucky (Chesse) Davis. They will all be hosting a fundraiser for Lou at Allenwood federal prison whre Ron will be issued his new uniform. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Political Insider posted Message 7944 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 22:29:10 Subject: Political Insider : POLITICAL INSIDER : Ties to pollster taints numbers : Saturday, October 16, 2004 : Most camps in the Jersey City mayoral race do their polls to see where their candidates stand and to come up with strategies to improve their position. It is when poll results are released that you have to wonder about their validity - particularly when the candidate who is the beneficiary of the results releases it and he or she is also the person who commissioned it. : This brings us to the polling results in the race to complete the remaining seven months of the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's term. The poll was conducted for Councilman at Large Jerramiah Healy by McLaughlin & Associates, with offices in Blauvelt, N.Y., and Alexandria, Va. : : The poll shows Healy ahead of state Assemblyman Lou Manzo by nearly 3 points, 24.7 to 12. It has acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith next, at 13, followed by former Councilwoman Willie Flood, 11, Councilman Steve Lipski, 2, and no one else on the radar. There also is 27.3 percent undecided. : McLaughlin & Associates is considered a reputable polling firm in many circles, though some consider it a Republican-friendly polling firm. The problem is that it has a business relationship with Healy campaign leader Buddy Demellier, who has been known to hand out M&A business cards. : The survey sampling is 300 likely voters, taken Oct. 10-11. The number of voters surveyed is considered small, and Oct. 10 also was the date of an interesting New York Times article reviewing the Jersey City election. : Back in September, the pollster had Healy with 13.3 and Manzo on top with 15.7. Smith was second with 14. This suggests a monumental leap to the top for Healy in just one month. Is the councilman in trouble? : Hudson County Executive Tom DeGise has a lot invested in Healy. The Jersey City Democratic Party picked their candidate and pretty much turned away any influence by the county Dems and U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez, who apparently decided not to support any candidate and just deal with whoever gets in office. : It didn't stop the Jersey City clan of the Dems from going around and asking for and getting some campaign money from the other Hudson mayors, according to one of those chief executives. : The problem came two weeks ago, when they went around for a second helping of funding assistance from the mayors - and were shut out, according to several Democrats close to the city and county organizations. : OK, how does one deal with this perceived lack of faith? Some in the county suggest that this was the objective of the poll - provide optimism. : Look for the Healy camp to start throwing everything into this battle over the next two weeks. The tactic will be to convince voters that a vote for Manzo is a vote for former Mayor Gerry McCann. There are already small orange stickers linking Manzo and McCann being placed on the assemblyman's campaign posters. : "People are turned off by McCann," said Paul Swibinski, of Vision Media Marketing of Secaucus. "This is a man who had urin-ated in City Hall offices when he left. This is the man who Lou Manzo associates with?" : Swibinski said he has not been hired as a media consultant by the Healy camp, although he did say his firm did a Spanish-language television spot for the councilman. : While Manzo said that McCann does not speak for him and that the former mayor will not be a part of his city administration, the state Assemblyman wonders aloud how it was OK for McCann to work with his opponents in the past, and suddenly becomes a menace because he supports Manzo. : Still, there is some uneasiness within Manzo's Ward A club, where his backers would rather not rub shoulders with McCann. Look for more McCann attacks - if you can picture this. : Healy supporters say there will be much more said about Manzo's recommendation to hire Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : Mayoral candidate Steve Lipski made the charge two weeks ago in the city's first mayoral debate at the Loew's Jersey Theater. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LooneyLou posted Message 7945 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 22:48:47 Subject: Manzo squealing on brother DON’T TRUST LOU MANZO Judge OKs witness list in case against former McGreevey aide The Associated Press August 6, 2004 10:06 PM NEW YORK - A District Court judge signed an order approving the government's list of potential witnesses in its insider trading case against Gary Taffet, a former top aide to Gov. James E. McGreevey. Included on the list approved Thursday by Judge Shira Scheindlin are several high profile Democrats, including developer Charles Kushner, a top donor who has been charged in a separate federal obstruction case; George Norcross, a prominent behind-the-scenes player in Democratic Party politics in southern New Jersey; state Assembly Majority Leader Joseph Roberts(D-Camden); former McGreevey aide Paul Levinsohn and Assemblyman Louis Manzo (D-Hudson), whose brother admitted to tipping Taffet to the insider stock tips. Federal Charges against Manzo. Commencing in or around 1998, in violation of the duties of trust and confidence he owed to his wife, Gallucci started tipping Manzo about the identities of the companies targeted for acquisition in transactions. From the onset, Gallucci told Manzo that the tips were based on information that he obtained from his wife, who had learned it in the course of her employment by an attorney who worked on mergers and acquisitions. Gallucci disclosed this information to Manzo with the knowledge and intent that Manzo would use it for trading purposes. Thereafter, Gallucci continued to tip Manzo, and Manzo continued to purchase securities of the target companies and to recommend them to others. Gallucci conveyed the tips in telephone calls from New York and in person, at Manzo’s “RAM Insurance Company” located on Westside avenue in Jersey City, New Jersey. Isn’t it time Louis Manzo tells the public the truth about his insider trading profits? PRODUCE YOUR TAX RETURNS THE PUBLIC DESERVES THE TRUTH ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** MANZO OPPOSER posted Message 7946 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 23:37:36 Subject: Re: THE HEAL EXPRESS. IRON WORKERS LOCAL 45 JERSEY CITY. CARPENTERS UNION HUDSON COUNTY LABOR COUNCIL. AND MANY MORE TO MANY TO NAME. OK A$$HOLE ***************** End Of Article ****************** Swibinksi is a Rumor Monger posted Message 7947 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 23:37:45 Subject: Re: Political Insider I don't like Gerry McCann. I've worked in City Hall for fifteen years. He, nor anyone on his staff urin-ated anywhere in City Hall other than the bathrooms, ever. People like Paul Swibinski who perpetuate baseless and disgusting rumors are scum. McCann had a lot of faults. He still does. And I support Healy this time around. But people like Swibinski are political feces, filth, scum and nothing more. : : POLITICAL INSIDER : : Ties to pollster taints numbers : : Saturday, October 16, 2004 : : Most camps in the Jersey City mayoral race do their polls to see where their candidates stand and to come up with strategies to improve their position. It is when poll results are released that you have to wonder about their validity - particularly when the candidate who is the beneficiary of the results releases it and he or she is also the person who commissioned it. : : This brings us to the polling results in the race to complete the remaining seven months of the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's term. The poll was conducted for Councilman at Large Jerramiah Healy by McLaughlin & Associates, with offices in Blauvelt, N.Y., and Alexandria, Va. : : : : The poll shows Healy ahead of state Assemblyman Lou Manzo by nearly 3 points, 24.7 to 12. It has acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith next, at 13, followed by former Councilwoman Willie Flood, 11, Councilman Steve Lipski, 2, and no one else on the radar. There also is 27.3 percent undecided. : : McLaughlin & Associates is considered a reputable polling firm in many circles, though some consider it a Republican-friendly polling firm. The problem is that it has a business relationship with Healy campaign leader Buddy Demellier, who has been known to hand out M&A business cards. : : The survey sampling is 300 likely voters, taken Oct. 10-11. The number of voters surveyed is considered small, and Oct. 10 also was the date of an interesting New York Times article reviewing the Jersey City election. : : Back in September, the pollster had Healy with 13.3 and Manzo on top with 15.7. Smith was second with 14. This suggests a monumental leap to the top for Healy in just one month. Is the councilman in trouble? : : Hudson County Executive Tom DeGise has a lot invested in Healy. The Jersey City Democratic Party picked their candidate and pretty much turned away any influence by the county Dems and U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez, who apparently decided not to support any candidate and just deal with whoever gets in office. : : It didn't stop the Jersey City clan of the Dems from going around and asking for and getting some campaign money from the other Hudson mayors, according to one of those chief executives. : : The problem came two weeks ago, when they went around for a second helping of funding assistance from the mayors - and were shut out, according to several Democrats close to the city and county organizations. : : OK, how does one deal with this perceived lack of faith? Some in the county suggest that this was the objective of the poll - provide optimism. : : Look for the Healy camp to start throwing everything into this battle over the next two weeks. The tactic will be to convince voters that a vote for Manzo is a vote for former Mayor Gerry McCann. There are already small orange stickers linking Manzo and McCann being placed on the assemblyman's campaign posters. : : "People are turned off by McCann," said Paul Swibinski, of Vision Media Marketing of Secaucus. "This is a man who had urin-ated in City Hall offices when he left. This is the man who Lou Manzo associates with?" : : Swibinski said he has not been hired as a media consultant by the Healy camp, although he did say his firm did a Spanish-language television spot for the councilman. : : While Manzo said that McCann does not speak for him and that the former mayor will not be a part of his city administration, the state Assemblyman wonders aloud how it was OK for McCann to work with his opponents in the past, and suddenly becomes a menace because he supports Manzo. : : Still, there is some uneasiness within Manzo's Ward A club, where his backers would rather not rub shoulders with McCann. Look for more McCann attacks - if you can picture this. : : Healy supporters say there will be much more said about Manzo's recommendation to hire Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : Mayoral candidate Steve Lipski made the charge two weeks ago in the city's first mayoral debate at the Loew's Jersey Theater. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Wish posted Message 7948 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 16, 2004 at 23:41:28 Subject: Manzo defends his brother in court Only someone like Lipski or Healy would testify against a brother. : Any decent brother would defend a brother. To say Lou Manzo would testify for the prosecution is to show how little you know absout the man Lou Manzo. : Judge OKs witness list in case against former McGreevey aide : The Associated Press August 6, 2004 10:06 PM : NEW YORK - A District Court judge signed an order approving the government's list of potential witnesses in its insider trading case against Gary Taffet, a former top aide to Gov. James E. McGreevey. : Included on the list approved Thursday by Judge Shira Scheindlin are several high profile Democrats, including developer Charles Kushner, a top donor who has been charged in a separate federal obstruction case; George Norcross, a prominent behind-the-scenes player in Democratic Party politics in southern New Jersey; state Assembly Majority Leader Joseph Roberts(D-Camden); former McGreevey aide Paul Levinsohn and Assemblyman Louis Manzo (D-Hudson), whose brother admitted to tipping Taffet to the insider stock tips. : Federal Charges against Manzo. : Commencing in or around 1998, in violation of the duties of trust and confidence he owed to his wife, Gallucci started tipping Manzo about the identities of the companies targeted for acquisition in transactions. From the onset, Gallucci told Manzo that the tips were based on information that he obtained from his wife, who had learned it in the course of her employment by an attorney who worked on mergers and acquisitions. Gallucci disclosed this information to Manzo with the knowledge and intent that Manzo would use it for trading purposes. : Thereafter, Gallucci continued to tip Manzo, and Manzo continued to purchase securities of the target companies and to recommend them to others. : Gallucci conveyed the tips in telephone calls from New York and in person, at Manzo’s “RAM Insurance Company” located on Westside avenue in Jersey City, New Jersey. : Isn’t it time Louis Manzo tells the public the truth about his insider trading profits? : PRODUCE YOUR TAX RETURNS : THE PUBLIC DESERVES THE TRUTH ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 7949 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 08:39:57 Subject: NJN Video Online: Grand Opening of the Glenn Cunningham Library Sandra Cunningham, Chris Christie and local leaders speak at the grand opening of the Glenn Cunningham Library on August 17, 2004. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nude Picture of Healy posted Message 7950 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 08:40:57 Subject: Call McCann if you want to see picture of Healy in the nude Bradey Beach road show by Gerry McCann.I will drink to that Showing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez playing all as fools posted Message 7951 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 08:43:43 Subject: Will sell out all the othersto the winnerin JC Throw out Porky Pig instead. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truly Disfunctional! posted Message 7952 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 08:47:09 Subject: Mamma Manzo on TV commercial Louie squealing on his brother to get himself out of any hot water doesn't surprise me. In 1992, when Louie made his first on his 4 attempts to run for mayor, his older brother Allan ran against him. (You can just see all the love in this family). Louie put out a TV commercial which featured his own mother saying that Louie was her favorite son! Then the night before the Election, brother Allan assaults one of Louie's sign hangers with a hammer and gets thrown in jail. Talk about real class act family. And if you look at the other Brother - Ron's complaint, the insider trading happened on both Ron and their Mother's accounts, however Mamma Manzo was never charged. Gee I wonder why? Does this tell you something about the family? And let's not forget, having the ex con felon McCann as Lou's Chief of Staff, that's should say enough about Lou's Integrity. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FBP posted Message 7953 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 09:41:30 Subject: Re: Call McCann if you want to see picture of Healy in the nude : Bradey Beach road show by Gerry McCann.I will drink to that Showing. ::::::::Call Federal Bureau of Prisons, U. S. Marshal's service or NYPD if you want to see booking shots of McCann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Book Him Dano posted Message 7954 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 10:12:02 Subject: McCann Mug Shots More Entertaining In his Booking Mug Shot McCann looks like he'd been drinking for three days and had to be propped up to have his picture taken. And a better picture to keep in mind would be of a scoundrel hiding in Healy's neighbor's bushes with a camera skulking around trying to get incriminating pictures. Now there's someone who deserves the public's trust. Yeah...good ole Gerry...jailed, disgraced and back to his old tricks hiding in neighbor's bushes. Thank you LOU for giving Jersey City another dose of McCann. It's one thing to give a convict a second chance. Its a whole other thing to lower yourself and your campaign to the level of a common criminal. : : Bradey Beach road show by Gerry McCann.I will drink to that Showing. : ::::::::Call Federal Bureau of Prisons, U. S. Marshal's service or NYPD if you want to see booking shots of McCann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flash!! posted Message 7955 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 11:04:25 Subject: Someone breaks the window at Willie Flood's club last night. Getting desperate? Someone's getting nervous!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Unindicted Co-conspiritor (And Bobby J Operative) posted Message 7956 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 11:53:09 Subject: Paul Swibinski Paul Swibinski was an unindicted co-conspiritor in the case against former Paterson Mayor Barnes. Swibinski gave cash payments to Barnes for business. This a$$-hole couldn't sell himself out of a paper bag. Let's also not forget about Swibinski's sorid background. He cut his political teeth as Bobby J's PR guy, doing the devils work for Bobby J, jeff Preseley and Bill Norhtgrave. And now, he's working for Healy the HCDO machine candidate. Is there any doubt that Bobby J and his corrupt crew as still not calling the shots at HC? How far can you bend over Tom Disguist? : I don't like Gerry McCann. I've worked in City Hall for fifteen years. He, nor anyone on his staff urin-ated anywhere in City Hall other than the bathrooms, ever. People like Paul Swibinski who perpetuate baseless and disgusting rumors are scum. McCann had a lot of faults. He still does. And I support Healy this time around. But people like Swibinski are political feces, filth, scum and nothing more. : : : : POLITICAL INSIDER : : : Ties to pollster taints numbers : : : Saturday, October 16, 2004 : : : Most camps in the Jersey City mayoral race do their polls to see where their candidates stand and to come up with strategies to improve their position. It is when poll results are released that you have to wonder about their validity - particularly when the candidate who is the beneficiary of the results releases it and he or she is also the person who commissioned it. : : : This brings us to the polling results in the race to complete the remaining seven months of the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's term. The poll was conducted for Councilman at Large Jerramiah Healy by McLaughlin & Associates, with offices in Blauvelt, N.Y., and Alexandria, Va. : : : : : : The poll shows Healy ahead of state Assemblyman Lou Manzo by nearly 3 points, 24.7 to 12. It has acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith next, at 13, followed by former Councilwoman Willie Flood, 11, Councilman Steve Lipski, 2, and no one else on the radar. There also is 27.3 percent undecided. : : : McLaughlin & Associates is considered a reputable polling firm in many circles, though some consider it a Republican-friendly polling firm. The problem is that it has a business relationship with Healy campaign leader Buddy Demellier, who has been known to hand out M&A business cards. : : : The survey sampling is 300 likely voters, taken Oct. 10-11. The number of voters surveyed is considered small, and Oct. 10 also was the date of an interesting New York Times article reviewing the Jersey City election. : : : Back in September, the pollster had Healy with 13.3 and Manzo on top with 15.7. Smith was second with 14. This suggests a monumental leap to the top for Healy in just one month. Is the councilman in trouble? : : : Hudson County Executive Tom DeGise has a lot invested in Healy. The Jersey City Democratic Party picked their candidate and pretty much turned away any influence by the county Dems and U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez, who apparently decided not to support any candidate and just deal with whoever gets in office. : : : It didn't stop the Jersey City clan of the Dems from going around and asking for and getting some campaign money from the other Hudson mayors, according to one of those chief executives. : : : The problem came two weeks ago, when they went around for a second helping of funding assistance from the mayors - and were shut out, according to several Democrats close to the city and county organizations. : : : OK, how does one deal with this perceived lack of faith? Some in the county suggest that this was the objective of the poll - provide optimism. : : : Look for the Healy camp to start throwing everything into this battle over the next two weeks. The tactic will be to convince voters that a vote for Manzo is a vote for former Mayor Gerry McCann. There are already small orange stickers linking Manzo and McCann being placed on the assemblyman's campaign posters. : : : "People are turned off by McCann," said Paul Swibinski, of Vision Media Marketing of Secaucus. "This is a man who had urin-ated in City Hall offices when he left. This is the man who Lou Manzo associates with?" : : : Swibinski said he has not been hired as a media consultant by the Healy camp, although he did say his firm did a Spanish-language television spot for the councilman. : : : While Manzo said that McCann does not speak for him and that the former mayor will not be a part of his city administration, the state Assemblyman wonders aloud how it was OK for McCann to work with his opponents in the past, and suddenly becomes a menace because he supports Manzo. : : : Still, there is some uneasiness within Manzo's Ward A club, where his backers would rather not rub shoulders with McCann. Look for more McCann attacks - if you can picture this. : : : Healy supporters say there will be much more said about Manzo's recommendation to hire Daniel McMann for appointment to the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services. McMann was recently blamed for the state levying $105,000 in fines for the department's failure to file state-required reports on hazardous substances. Manzo has acknowledged that McMann was hired on his recommendation. : : : Mayoral candidate Steve Lipski made the charge two weeks ago in the city's first mayoral debate at the Loew's Jersey Theater. ***************** End Of Article ****************** We have to keep our eyes on the prize posted Message 7957 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 11:54:22 Subject: Porkey will get his the next time around Menendez will get his due in 2 years. When he falls he will fall hard and fast. : Throw out Porky Pig instead. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Admits It! posted Message 7958 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 11:57:52 Subject: Was Jerry Hiding in the Bush? Gerry McCann blah! blah! blah! Who cares? He's not running for mayor but Jerry Healy is. And his personal life is totally out of control. McCann will not be the mayor, but the thought of Healy being the mayor? How many more instances of his public nudity before you hear about it on the Jay Leno show? JC will be the laughing stock of the country. : In his Booking Mug Shot McCann looks like he'd been drinking for three days and had to be propped up to have his picture taken. And a better picture to keep in mind would be of a scoundrel hiding in Healy's neighbor's bushes with a camera skulking around trying to get incriminating pictures. Now there's someone who deserves the public's trust. Yeah...good ole Gerry...jailed, disgraced and back to his old tricks hiding in neighbor's bushes. : Thank you LOU for giving Jersey City another dose of McCann. It's one thing to give a convict a second chance. Its a whole other thing to lower yourself and your campaign to the level of a common criminal. : : : Bradey Beach road show by Gerry McCann.I will drink to that Showing. : : ::::::::Call Federal Bureau of Prisons, U. S. Marshal's service or NYPD if you want to see booking shots of McCann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** for Mayor Hague posted Message 7959 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 12:00:45 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile Will Submit Absentee Ballot : : Let's not forget who published the bogus poll from the bogus polling company, his sweetness himself, Tony Amabile. : : What are you going to do for an encore? Raise Mayor Hague from the dead? : WHAT, HE DIED? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Astor Bar posted Message 7960 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 12:05:32 Subject: New Healy Poll Being Taken at the To be totally unbiased Jerry Healy will take his own poll at the Astor bar this afternnon. All are invited to speak with Jerry and to tell him how much you love his revealing pic's and that you will vote for him. Tony Amabile will be on his knees at Jerry's side if you need some encouragement to throw your vote for Jerry. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here it Is posted Message 7961 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 12:13:31 Subject: Healy Photo Revealed Jerry exercising in his backyard. ***************** End Of Article ****************** wake up posted Message 7962 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 12:22:08 Subject: Re: Was Jerry Hiding in the Bush? : Gerry McCann blah! blah! blah! Who cares? He's not running for mayor but Jerry Healy is. And his personal life is totally out of control. McCann will not be the mayor, but the thought of Healy being the mayor? How many more instances of his public nudity before you hear about it on the Jay Leno show? JC will be the laughing stock of the country. ;;;;;Mc Cann's not running, Manzo is? That's like saying Buffalo Bob's not running, Howdy Doody is. Smarten up. Mc Cann is a lifelong sociopath who has taken control of Manzo's life, what there is of it. Mc Cann stole before and during his mayoralty and will continue to do so if Manzo gets anywhere near city hall. Mc Cann already said "we" will find out which cops are lying and "we" will fire them. A limp wristed denial by Manzo is all we heard on the subject. This doesn't send any signals as to who will be runing/looting this poor city ? Only in Jersey City/Hudson County. : : : In his Booking Mug Shot McCann looks like he'd been drinking for three days and had to be propped up to have his picture taken. And a better picture to keep in mind would be of a scoundrel hiding in Healy's neighbor's bushes with a camera skulking around trying to get incriminating pictures. Now there's someone who deserves the public's trust. Yeah...good ole Gerry...jailed, disgraced and back to his old tricks hiding in neighbor's bushes. : : Thank you LOU for giving Jersey City another dose of McCann. It's one thing to give a convict a second chance. Its a whole other thing to lower yourself and your campaign to the level of a common criminal. : : : : Bradey Beach road show by Gerry McCann.I will drink to that Showing. : : : ::::::::Call Federal Bureau of Prisons, U. S. Marshal's service or NYPD if you want to see booking shots of McCann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dem EXPRESS posted Message 7963 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 13:20:58 Subject: LATINO'S FOR HEALY ELIU RIVERA 160000 FROM COUNTY GRANTS HIS WIFE 76000 FROM COUNTY PAYROLL BROTHERS AND SISTER AND OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS $300000 MARIANO VEGA AND FAMILY COUNTY PAYROLL320000DOLLAARS, JUNIOR PLAYBOY MALDONADO 250000 COUNTY PAYROLL THE OTHER LATINOS 6500000 TAX PAYERS PAYROLL GOOD MONEY IN ORDER TO SUPPORT A PERSON THAT WAS CALL ANTIHISPANIC JUST 4 YRS AGO.........MONEY TALKS B....S,,,,,,WALKS........... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward F . COM posted Message 7964 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 13:48:37 Subject: Re: Someone breaks the window at Willie Flood's club last night. Getting desperate? : Someone's getting nervous!!!!!! No nervous........drugs in Hq....workers for FLOOD all in drugs just go to the restaurant for ribs and etc etc,,,, ***************** End Of Article ****************** Citizen for good gov. posted Message 7965 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 14:00:18 Subject: Lispki and Schundler perfect for Jersey City Good news after the low class candidates, Schundler and Lispki good for city , please stop the Healy Manzo Flood Smith is bad for this city stop all this rycicle politicians full of corruption .....Let's wake up and bring pride with Schundler and Lispki ...PRIDE AND GOOD FOR US STOP THE NAKED BEERS AND MC MANZO SMITHFLOODSANDRA DRAYTON .STOP THIS PEOPLE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Greenville Gang ll posted Message 7966 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 15:37:57 Subject: Loony Lou Is it true? Lou Manzo spent time in a mental institution after his 2001 loss running for Mayor. Is this the reason for the dont vote for Loony Lou stickers all over the City? ***************** End Of Article ****************** West Side Story posted Message 7967 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 15:47:15 Subject: Re: Loony Lou : Is it true? Lou Manzo spent time in a mental institution after his 2001 loss running for Mayor. Is this the reason for the dont vote for Loony Lou stickers all over the City? You are half right, but it was after his 1993 loss to Schundler. Ask McCann, he has a copy of the admittance form. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BOBBY MAJORS posted Message 7968 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 16:23:52 Subject: MANZOS FINISHED DUE TO MCCANN LOU MANZO IS BEHIND IN ALL POLLS ADMIT HE RAN A DISGRACEFULL CAMPAIGN. IF IT WERENT FOR MCCANN HE MIGHT HAVE DONE WELL BUT HE USED THE CONVICT TO RUN A DIRTY CAMPAIGN AND IS NOW ON THE VERGE OF LOSING TO HEALY. LOU SHOULD HAVE STAYED HIS COURSE AND KEPT MCCANN OUT OF HIS CAMPAIGN. IT IS TO BAD ALL THE WORKERS HAVE TO SUFFER A LOSS DUE TO GERRY. THIS CAMPAIGN SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON ISSUES NOT NUDE PICS OF A CANDIDATE. THE CITY IS IN BAD SHAPE AND MCCANN IS SHOWING NUDE PICS. HE IS LUCKY SOMEONE DONT BEAT THE HELL OUT OF HIM FOR HIS ACTIONS. HE HAS GOTTEN BEATINGS BEFORE FOR DOING THIS WHEN HE WAS MAYOR . ONCE IN HOBOKEN FOR ABUSING A WAITRESS WHO WAS A COPS WIFE AND ONCE IN NEW YORK FOR MOUTHING OFF TO A HOMO WHO BEAT HIM UP HE HAD TO GO DOWN THE SHORE TO RECOOP FOR ONE MONTH. AND DICK HARRISON HAD TO TEND TO BUSINESS IN THE CITY. LOU YOU SHOULD DUMP YOUR CONVICT CHIEF OF STAFF IN THE ASSEMBLY AND REPLACE HIM WITH AN UPSTANDING CITIZEN ONE WHO CAN VOTE. GOOD LUCK NEXT TIME LOU IF THERE IS A NEXT TIME. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Voice of the people posted Message 7969 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 16:45:10 Subject: Which one of these is different from the other Lets see we have a nude drunk, an Uncle Tom, a raging homosexual who Gerry McCann shows tricks he learned in jail, and a reformer who has given back to the city. Gee I wonder who we will see standing tall on November 2nd. Lipski for Mayor Reform Government Now! ***************** End Of Article ****************** urbangop posted Message 7970 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 17:05:32 Subject: an observation One candidate is a drunk and enjoys being naked on his front porch. One candidate has a convicted felon as his chief advisor and hides in the closet, one candidate is the acting mayor and only cares about destroying the Cunningham legacy. Finally, there is a candidate who rises above all this and is worthy of being Mayor - STEVE LIPSKI! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I can see clearly now posted Message 7971 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 17:09:38 Subject: No wonder McScam is his Chief of Staff Payback for keeping the Looney Bin certification out of opposition hands eh? : : Is it true? Lou Manzo spent time in a mental institution after his 2001 loss running for Mayor. Is this the reason for the dont vote for Loony Lou stickers all over the City? : You are half right, but it was after his 1993 loss to Schundler. : Ask McCann, he has a copy of the admittance form. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey Jail Guard posted Message 7972 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 17:14:09 Subject: Wanna See Lipski's Booking Photo for Lewdness??? You think you know Lipski? Did you know he has a record for Leud and licivious behavior? Did you know he was booked and fingerprinted? And did you know mug shots are available? So you think this deviant is the person to run our City? Lord help us all!!! : Lets see we have a nude drunk, an Uncle Tom, a raging homosexual who Gerry McCann shows tricks he learned in jail, and a reformer who has given back to the city. Gee I wonder who we will see standing tall on November 2nd. : Lipski for Mayor Reform Government Now! ***************** End Of Article ****************** MIKEY MAZZO posted Message 7973 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 17:32:21 Subject: Re: New Healy Poll Being Taken at the WELL IT IS GREAT JERRY IS WINNING THE POLLS AT THE ASTOR BAR NICE PEOPLE GO THERE . SO WE CAN ADD THE ASTOR TO ALL THE POLLS HE IS LEADING IN HOOORAYYY!!! GO JERRY! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Looney Lou posted Message 7974 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 17:54:47 Subject: Danny, where are you? Danny, I am tired of going places alone, eating out alone, taking photos alone, etc. So why not come up from my condo and meet me? Sine you left the only person I met and hang out with reguarly is Gerry. Is he nice? No! Does he have what it takes to replace you? NO! But it’s nice spending time with other people and that’s something I’m sorely missing. Upon going out with Gerry and telling a friend what I had done, I got ridiculed. Not in an overt way, but in a subtle way that seemed to imply that it was ok if I did such a thing, because I am just weird like that. Normal people however, do NOT understand me, please come back before the election is over. ***************** End Of Article ****************** tony chavas posted Message 7975 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 19:56:28 Subject: MCCANN DESTROYS MANZO CHANCES FOR MAYOR GERRY MCCANN DESTROYED LOU MANZO CAMPAIGN BY RUNNING A NEGATIVE DIRTY CAMPAIGN. HEALY SEEMS TO BE SURGING AHEAD WITH NO NEGATIVITY. ALSO LIPSKI. AND FLOOD. THE WAY THINGS ARE SHAPING UP IN THE RACE I SEE (HEALY-MANZO -FLOOD- LIPSKI-SMITH.) LOUIE DUMP GERRY MCCANN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY posted Message 7976 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 19:59:06 Subject: HEALY WINS NOV 2ND HEALY WINS WILL BE THE HEADLINES IN THE JJ ON WEDNESDAY NOV 3RD. BET ON IT .LOUIE MANZO SLIPPING BACKWARD IN POLLS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Psych Doc posted Message 7977 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 20:08:53 Subject: You saying McCann Blackmailed Manzo for his job? Are you saying McCann got the Chief of Staff job with Manzo for keeping it hush hush about Manzo's breakdown following his defeat by Schundler? Hmmm... interesting angle, but where's the proof? : Is it true? Lou Manzo spent time in a mental institution after his 2001 loss running for Mayor. Is this the reason for the dont vote for Loony Lou stickers all over the City? ***************** End Of Article ****************** YANKEES WIN!!!!!! posted Message 7978 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 20:15:29 Subject: Re: HEALY WINS NOV 2ND : HEALY WINS WILL BE THE HEADLINES IN THE JJ ON WEDNESDAY NOV 3RD. : BET ON IT .LOUIE MANZO SLIPPING BACKWARD IN POLLS. HEALY WIN'S HEALY WIN'S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH! BABY!!! THE HEALY TEAM WIN'S!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fair and Balanced posted Message 7979 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 20:17:30 Subject: ANTHONY'S BIAS OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE ANTHONY your obvious bias against Healy has made this site nothing more than a Healy-bashing venue. No Anthony...I don't expect you to ignore the rumors reported in the NY Times. But I don't expect you to post a "Nudist" magazine cover on your front page and then act as if you are an innocent bystander. You are a partisan. No doubt about it. If you weren't a partisan, you would also post Lipski's booking Mug Shot which is readily available and is directly connected to a candidate running for Mayor.... not through insinuation, but as a result of his juvenile actions. You would also post McCann's mug shot which is also readily available from a dozen different sources. It is your right to be a partisan Anthony, just don't play innocent and act as though you don't have any agenda here. Don't act as though you are a non-partisan member of the media which is held to a higher standard. You are a political partisan with an agenda. And we can all see that very clearly now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Repeat - Jerry McCan Is Not Running for Mayor! posted Message 7980 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 20:33:02 Subject: McCann Is Not running for Mayor All of you Kol-Aid drinking Healy supporters, when are you going to get over it? McCann is not running for Mayor. All you could throw at Lou manzo was that he was gay. You (singular-one Healy supporter on this Board) now attack McCann, but he is not the candidate. Dah! : ANTHONY your obvious bias against Healy has made this site nothing more than a Healy-bashing venue. No Anthony...I don't expect you to ignore the rumors reported in the NY Times. But I don't expect you to post a "Nudist" magazine cover on your front page and then act as if you are an innocent bystander. You are a partisan. No doubt about it. : If you weren't a partisan, you would also post Lipski's booking Mug Shot which is readily available and is directly connected to a candidate running for Mayor.... not through insinuation, but as a result of his juvenile actions. You would also post McCann's mug shot which is also readily available from a dozen different sources. : It is your right to be a partisan Anthony, just don't play innocent and act as though you don't have any agenda here. Don't act as though you are a non-partisan member of the media which is held to a higher standard. You are a political partisan with an agenda. And we can all see that very clearly now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez - DeGise Machine Get Outta Town posted Message 7981 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 20:36:04 Subject: Manzo WINS NOV 2ND After Lou wins Tom Disguist better pack his bags quick or else the new Mayor might have to bring up a couple of cardboard boxes for Tommy Boy. Are you getting scared Tommy Boy? Your not going to soild your pants like your idol Bobby J are you? : : HEALY WINS WILL BE THE HEADLINES IN THE JJ ON WEDNESDAY NOV 3RD. : : BET ON IT .LOUIE MANZO SLIPPING BACKWARD IN POLLS. : HEALY WIN'S HEALY WIN'S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : OH! BABY!!! THE HEALY TEAM WIN'S!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Duty in Iraq posted Message 7982 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 20:38:39 Subject: Re: Lispki and Schundler perfect for Let these two patriots go to Iraq so they can tell the crazies over there in Fallujah that George Bush is right and they are wrong. candidates, Schundler and Lispki good for city , please stop the Healy : Manzo Flood Smith is bad for this city stop all this rycicle : politicians full of corruption .....Let's wake up and bring pride with Schundler and Lispki ...PRIDE AND GOOD FOR US : STOP THE NAKED BEERS AND MC MANZO SMITHFLOODSANDRA DRAYTON .STOP THIS PEOPLE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Judy Judge posted Message 7983 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 20:43:40 Subject: Re: Point of Fact : : Bobby J and Menendez backed Cunningham in 2001 and were instrumental to his victory. But don't let the facts confuse your little mind or get in the way of a good spin. : : : HEALY WINS WILL BE THE HEADLINES IN THE JJ ON WEDNESDAY NOV 3RD. : : : BET ON IT .LOUIE MANZO SLIPPING BACKWARD IN POLLS. : : HEALY WIN'S HEALY WIN'S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : : OH! BABY!!! THE HEALY TEAM WIN'S!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Guy In Favor of Tax Abatements for Multi-Millionaires! posted Message 7984 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 20:44:04 Subject: You Mean Barney Rubble Yeah! Lipskis's motives are pure, as in pure profit. How can this guy keep a straight face about giving millionaire developers the right to build 432 units of housing and to be rewarded with a tax abatement? Can I get that deal, I'll take it with out the abatement. Let's see 432 units going for about $500,000 per unit = $216 million. Not bad! And they need a $26 million rebate? Get real about Lipski. How much is he in for? : One candidate is a drunk and enjoys being naked on his front porch. One candidate has a convicted felon as his chief advisor and hides in the closet, one candidate is the acting mayor and only cares about destroying the Cunningham legacy. Finally, there is a candidate who rises above all this and is worthy of being Mayor - STEVE LIPSKI! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Has Healy left the Astor yet? posted Message 7985 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 20:47:03 Subject: McCann Is Not running for Mayor He's been there since the kcik-off of the Jets game. he was supposed to be campaigning today. hey buddie, where are you? Get Jerry out of the Astor! LOU MANZO IS BEHIND IN ALL POLLS ADMIT HE RAN A DISGRACEFULL CAMPAIGN. IF IT WERENT FOR MCCANN HE MIGHT HAVE DONE WELL BUT HE USED THE CONVICT TO RUN A DIRTY CAMPAIGN AND IS NOW ON THE VERGE OF LOSING TO HEALY. : LOU SHOULD HAVE STAYED HIS COURSE AND KEPT MCCANN OUT OF HIS CAMPAIGN. : IT IS TO BAD ALL THE WORKERS HAVE TO SUFFER A LOSS DUE TO GERRY. : THIS CAMPAIGN SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON ISSUES NOT NUDE PICS OF A CANDIDATE. THE CITY IS IN BAD SHAPE AND MCCANN IS SHOWING NUDE PICS. HE IS LUCKY SOMEONE DONT BEAT THE HELL OUT OF HIM FOR HIS : ACTIONS. HE HAS GOTTEN BEATINGS BEFORE FOR DOING THIS WHEN HE WAS MAYOR . ONCE IN HOBOKEN FOR ABUSING A WAITRESS WHO WAS A COPS WIFE AND ONCE IN NEW YORK FOR MOUTHING OFF TO A HOMO : WHO BEAT HIM UP HE HAD TO GO DOWN THE SHORE TO RECOOP FOR ONE MONTH. AND DICK HARRISON HAD TO TEND TO BUSINESS IN THE CITY. : LOU YOU SHOULD DUMP YOUR CONVICT CHIEF OF STAFF IN THE ASSEMBLY AND REPLACE HIM WITH AN UPSTANDING CITIZEN ONE WHO CAN VOTE. : GOOD LUCK NEXT TIME LOU IF THERE IS A NEXT TIME. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Coppertone posted Message 7986 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 20:48:29 Subject: HEALY'S BARE ASS OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE!!! God forbid, there's some tragedy. The State Troopers, the Governor, and the head of the Port Authority rush to the residence of the Mayor of Jersey City. They find him easy enough -- LAYING IN THE STREET, DRUNK AND NAKED!!!! : ANTHONY your obvious bias against Healy has made this site nothing more than a Healy-bashing venue. No Anthony...I don't expect you to ignore the rumors reported in the NY Times. But I don't expect you to post a "Nudist" magazine cover on your front page and then act as if you are an innocent bystander. You are a partisan. No doubt about it. : If you weren't a partisan, you would also post Lipski's booking Mug Shot which is readily available and is directly connected to a candidate running for Mayor.... not through insinuation, but as a result of his juvenile actions. You would also post McCann's mug shot which is also readily available from a dozen different sources. : It is your right to be a partisan Anthony, just don't play innocent and act as though you don't have any agenda here. Don't act as though you are a non-partisan member of the media which is held to a higher standard. You are a political partisan with an agenda. And we can all see that very clearly now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** On healy's Nude Picture posted Message 7987 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 20:50:19 Subject: Re: Tony Amabile Will Paint Some Clothes Tony, you are a denius, can you please make Jerry have clothes again? : : Let's not forget who published the bogus poll from the bogus polling company, his sweetness himself, Tony Amabile. : : : What are you going to do for an encore? Raise Mayor Hague from the dead? : : WHAT, HE DIED? ***************** End Of Article ****************** On E-Bay posted Message 7988 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 20:51:52 Subject: Healy's Nude Pics to be auctioned Jerry healy's portfolio of nude pic's will go for the highest bidder on E-Bay tomorrow. for the right price, Jerry will even autograph the pics. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just Not Stupid? posted Message 7989 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 21:02:09 Subject: Biased or -- Biased because they don't sypport Healy? Anyone who is not bought lock stock and barrel by the HCDO would have to be disturbed to support the candidacy of someone who; Is a diabetic who admits to drinking to excess Who admits to being nude in public Who admits that they don't know how they wound up nude in their backyard Who someone vote for a candidate with this profile? Really? Let's hear it from the HCDO monkey's out there! We know your there! : God forbid, there's some tragedy. The State Troopers, the Governor, and the head of the Port Authority rush to the residence of the Mayor of Jersey City. They find him easy enough -- LAYING IN THE STREET, DRUNK AND NAKED!!!! : : : ANTHONY your obvious bias against Healy has made this site nothing more than a Healy-bashing venue. No Anthony...I don't expect you to ignore the rumors reported in the NY Times. But I don't expect you to post a "Nudist" magazine cover on your front page and then act as if you are an innocent bystander. You are a partisan. No doubt about it. : : If you weren't a partisan, you would also post Lipski's booking Mug Shot which is readily available and is directly connected to a candidate running for Mayor.... not through insinuation, but as a result of his juvenile actions. You would also post McCann's mug shot which is also readily available from a dozen different sources. : : It is your right to be a partisan Anthony, just don't play innocent and act as though you don't have any agenda here. Don't act as though you are a non-partisan member of the media which is held to a higher standard. You are a political partisan with an agenda. And we can all see that very clearly now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** church lady posted Message 7990 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 21:09:03 Subject: Re: McCann Is Not running for Mayor : All of you Kol-Aid drinking Healy supporters, when are you going to get over it? McCann is not running for Mayor. : All you could throw at Lou manzo was that he was gay. You (singular-one Healy supporter on this Board) now attack McCann, but he is not the candidate. ::::::But he contols the candidate. Mc Cann was born evil. Manzo was born into bizarre circumstances, looking for a daddy. He finally found him. Manzo will be a puppet. You know it. Everyone knows it. Even people who believe Manzo is sane will shun him because of revulsion toward Mc Cann. Get over it. Mc Cann is the candidate. : Dah! : : ANTHONY your obvious bias against Healy has made this site nothing more than a Healy-bashing venue. No Anthony...I don't expect you to ignore the rumors reported in the NY Times. But I don't expect you to post a "Nudist" magazine cover on your front page and then act as if you are an innocent bystander. You are a partisan. No doubt about it. : : If you weren't a partisan, you would also post Lipski's booking Mug Shot which is readily available and is directly connected to a candidate running for Mayor.... not through insinuation, but as a result of his juvenile actions. You would also post McCann's mug shot which is also readily available from a dozen different sources. : : It is your right to be a partisan Anthony, just don't play innocent and act as though you don't have any agenda here. Don't act as though you are a non-partisan member of the media which is held to a higher standard. You are a political partisan with an agenda. And we can all see that very clearly now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 7991 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 21:16:54 Subject: This is a JCDO production Can't blame this farce on the HCDO. The Healy campaign is a JCDO production. And just think, these are the same world conquerors planning to "get even with Menendez." : Biased because they don't sypport Healy? Anyone who is not bought lock stock and barrel by the HCDO would have to be disturbed to support the candidacy of someone who; : Is a diabetic who admits to drinking to excess : Who admits to being nude in public : Who admits that they don't know how they wound up nude in their backyard : Who someone vote for a candidate with this profile? : Really? Let's hear it from the HCDO monkey's out there! : We know your there! : : God forbid, there's some tragedy. The State Troopers, the Governor, and the head of the Port Authority rush to the residence of the Mayor of Jersey City. They find him easy enough -- LAYING IN THE STREET, DRUNK AND NAKED!!!! : : : : : ANTHONY your obvious bias against Healy has made this site nothing more than a Healy-bashing venue. No Anthony...I don't expect you to ignore the rumors reported in the NY Times. But I don't expect you to post a "Nudist" magazine cover on your front page and then act as if you are an innocent bystander. You are a partisan. No doubt about it. : : : If you weren't a partisan, you would also post Lipski's booking Mug Shot which is readily available and is directly connected to a candidate running for Mayor.... not through insinuation, but as a result of his juvenile actions. You would also post McCann's mug shot which is also readily available from a dozen different sources. : : : It is your right to be a partisan Anthony, just don't play innocent and act as though you don't have any agenda here. Don't act as though you are a non-partisan member of the media which is held to a higher standard. You are a political partisan with an agenda. And we can all see that very clearly now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just die Harvey posted Message 7992 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 21:22:09 Subject: Re: You Mean Barney Rubble I don't know how much is Healy's tab at the bar that drunk? How much stock was Manzo's RAM shareholdings worth, and how much is L. Harvey Smith's stocks in KFC, Watermelon, and Kool Aide Worth. : Yeah! Lipskis's motives are pure, as in pure profit. How can this guy keep a straight face about giving millionaire developers the right to build 432 units of housing and to be rewarded with a tax abatement? Can I get that deal, I'll take it with out the abatement. Let's see 432 units going for about $500,000 per unit = $216 million. Not bad! And they need a $26 million rebate? Get real about Lipski. How much is he in for? : : : One candidate is a drunk and enjoys being naked on his front porch. One candidate has a convicted felon as his chief advisor and hides in the closet, one candidate is the acting mayor and only cares about destroying the Cunningham legacy. Finally, there is a candidate who rises above all this and is worthy of being Mayor - STEVE LIPSKI! ***************** End Of Article ****************** You'll Get Hammered posted Message 7993 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 21:35:05 Subject: Don't Take Down Manzo Signs If you are caught taking down Manzo for Mayor signs, you will get hammered. Years ago when Manzo ran one of the billion times for mayor, he and his brother hammered each others' eyes out...with an actual hammer. If I had a hammer, I'd hammer in the evening, I'd hammer in the morning, all over this land. Or you could go out with Healy & actually get hammered. Or hang out with McCann and end up in the slammer. Or hang out with Harvey and get in a jammer with Willie & company, damn her, just damn her. Feel free to add your own lines of poetry... ***************** End Of Article ****************** 6/8/88 posted Message 7994 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 21:47:14 Subject: mcann I WAS RAPED BY YOU TIME TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Contact the Office of the County Executive posted Message 7995 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 21:56:27 Subject: Nude beach to open at sand bar in JC Jersey City about to bare it all. A nude beach will open this May. For towels and sunscreen please contact Jim Kennelly. Please note that if you have not bathed nude before, sunscreen on your privates is strongly encouraged. Mr. Manzo and Mr. McMann will apply sunscreen in those hard to reach areas. Tom DeGise, Bill Gaughan & Jerry Healy will discard their speedos and streak along the shores of the Hudson River. Their buff bodies will glow in the shadow of Lady Libery in a true celebration of liberating themselves from the shackels of clothing. Former Mayor Gerald McCann will take FREE photos of you and your favorite County representative along the shores of the Hudson. The former first lady, Sandy will be there reminding everyone that her late husband always wanted to open a resort of this kind. Willie Flood will hug everyone upon entry and tell them that she is the right one to carry on this legacy. Steve Lipski will sell ice cream, kielbasi & pierogies from his RV. Harvey Smith will use his phys ed background to get everyone in shape with a round of beach volleyball. Free yourself. Join the Hudson County's finest leaders and friends at this liberating event. IT WILL BE A SIGHT TO SEE!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** RAPED 2 posted Message 7996 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 22:24:48 Subject: Re: mcann : I WAS RAPED BY YOU TIME TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT!! I WAS ALSO RAPED BY GERRY MCANN ALTHOUGH IT WAS MENTALLY HE PROMISED ME EVERTHING THEN HE MADE ME HEVE AN A ABORTION THANX MAUREEN AND OF COURSE U 2 GERRY ILUVED U ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paid for by the HCDO posted Message 7997 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 22:25:33 Subject: Re: This is a JCDO production The HCDO and JCDO are birds of a feather. They are one and the same. No big suprise here. : Can't blame this farce on the HCDO. The Healy campaign is a JCDO production. : And just think, these are the same world conquerors planning to "get even with Menendez." : : Biased because they don't sypport Healy? Anyone who is not bought lock stock and barrel by the HCDO would have to be disturbed to support the candidacy of someone who; : : Is a diabetic who admits to drinking to excess : : Who admits to being nude in public : : Who admits that they don't know how they wound up nude in their backyard : : Who someone vote for a candidate with this profile? : : Really? Let's hear it from the HCDO monkey's out there! : : We know your there! : : : : God forbid, there's some tragedy. The State Troopers, the Governor, and the head of the Port Authority rush to the residence of the Mayor of Jersey City. They find him easy enough -- LAYING IN THE STREET, DRUNK AND NAKED!!!! : : : : : : : ANTHONY your obvious bias against Healy has made this site nothing more than a Healy-bashing venue. No Anthony...I don't expect you to ignore the rumors reported in the NY Times. But I don't expect you to post a "Nudist" magazine cover on your front page and then act as if you are an innocent bystander. You are a partisan. No doubt about it. : : : : If you weren't a partisan, you would also post Lipski's booking Mug Shot which is readily available and is directly connected to a candidate running for Mayor.... not through insinuation, but as a result of his juvenile actions. You would also post McCann's mug shot which is also readily available from a dozen different sources. : : : : It is your right to be a partisan Anthony, just don't play innocent and act as though you don't have any agenda here. Don't act as though you are a non-partisan member of the media which is held to a higher standard. You are a political partisan with an agenda. And we can all see that very clearly now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Me Too! Jerry Healy posted Message 7998 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 22:27:32 Subject: Re: mcann I have to admit those nude pic's were taken after McCann had his way wuith me. : : I WAS RAPED BY YOU TIME TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT!! : I WAS ALSO RAPED BY GERRY MCANN ALTHOUGH IT WAS MENTALLY HE PROMISED ME EVERTHING THEN HE MADE ME HEVE AN A ABORTION THANX MAUREEN AND OF COURSE U 2 GERRY ILUVED U ***************** End Of Article ****************** The NAACP posted Message 7999 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 22:35:39 Subject: Re: You Mean Barney Rubble There are plenty of good reasons to trash Harvey without resorting to racial stereotypes. My guess is Lipski's in for the price of an RV. : I don't know how much is Healy's tab at the bar that drunk? How much stock was Manzo's RAM shareholdings worth, and how much is L. Harvey Smith's stocks in KFC, Watermelon, and Kool Aide Worth. : : Yeah! Lipskis's motives are pure, as in pure profit. How can this guy keep a straight face about giving millionaire developers the right to build 432 units of housing and to be rewarded with a tax abatement? Can I get that deal, I'll take it with out the abatement. Let's see 432 units going for about $500,000 per unit = $216 million. Not bad! And they need a $26 million rebate? Get real about Lipski. How much is he in for? : : : : : One candidate is a drunk and enjoys being naked on his front porch. One candidate has a convicted felon as his chief advisor and hides in the closet, one candidate is the acting mayor and only cares about destroying the Cunningham legacy. Finally, there is a candidate who rises above all this and is worthy of being Mayor - STEVE LIPSKI! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LHN posted Message 8000 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 23:01:54 Subject: Re: You Mean Peter Mocco & Jeff Zak What about all the other abatements that were voted on in the past 3 years. Not one was turned down. How come Manzo is being supported by Peter Mocco & Jeff Zak, two more comvicted felons to join their team. Why is Lou Manzo not writing letters against their abatements? By the way, Gerry McCann "sold 40 acres of Liberty Harbor North, the most pristine gold coast property in the City to Peter Mocco for $100,000. Yes 100,000 !! Is Lou Manzo going to demand he give it back to Jersey City, no, he will support their abatement. More dirty money for Manzo from dirty people. Ron Manzo, Gerry McCann, Ed Deak, Chucky Davis, Peter Mocco, Jeff Zak, Paul Byrne. The entire softball team from Allenwood prison. Go Lou-ser Go. 0-4 : There are plenty of good reasons to trash Harvey without resorting to racial stereotypes. : My guess is Lipski's in for the price of an RV. : : I don't know how much is Healy's tab at the bar that drunk? How much stock was Manzo's RAM shareholdings worth, and how much is L. Harvey Smith's stocks in KFC, Watermelon, and Kool Aide Worth. : : : : Yeah! Lipskis's motives are pure, as in pure profit. How can this guy keep a straight face about giving millionaire developers the right to build 432 units of housing and to be rewarded with a tax abatement? Can I get that deal, I'll take it with out the abatement. Let's see 432 units going for about $500,000 per unit = $216 million. Not bad! And they need a $26 million rebate? Get real about Lipski. How much is he in for? : : : : : : : One candidate is a drunk and enjoys being naked on his front porch. One candidate has a convicted felon as his chief advisor and hides in the closet, one candidate is the acting mayor and only cares about destroying the Cunningham legacy. Finally, there is a candidate who rises above all this and is worthy of being Mayor - STEVE LIPSKI! ***************** End Of Article ****************** raped me 2 posted Message 8001 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 23:14:57 Subject: Re: mcann : I have to admit those nude pic's were taken after McCann had his way wuith me. : : : I WAS RAPED BY YOU TIME TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT!! : : I WAS ALSO RAPED BY GERRY MCANN ALTHOUGH IT WAS MENTALLY HE PROMISED ME EVERTHING THEN HE MADE ME HEVE AN A ABORTION THANX MAUREEN AND OF COURSE U 2 GERRY ILUVED U a$$ whole I WAS REALY RAPED ***************** End Of Article ****************** dave freeland posted Message 8002 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 23:21:30 Subject: lipski drunk driving hey the next debate ill have the report, 2001 lipski smashed his car into my friends car. pics to follow, also ask lipski about his arrest for cocaine. ***************** End Of Article ****************** STILL LAUGHING posted Message 8003 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 23:21:57 Subject: THIS IS A GOOD POST - LAUGHS ALL AROUND Will Tom Short be there too? : Jersey City about to bare it all. A nude beach will open this May. For towels and sunscreen please contact Jim Kennelly. Please note that if you have not bathed nude before, sunscreen on your privates is strongly encouraged. : Mr. Manzo and Mr. McMann will apply sunscreen in those hard to reach areas. : Tom DeGise, Bill Gaughan & Jerry Healy will discard their speedos and streak along the shores of the Hudson River. : Their buff bodies will glow in the shadow of Lady Libery in a true celebration of liberating themselves from the shackels of clothing. : Former Mayor Gerald McCann will take FREE photos of you and your favorite County representative along the shores of the Hudson. : The former first lady, Sandy will be there reminding everyone that her late husband always wanted to open a resort of this kind. Willie Flood will hug everyone upon entry and tell them that she is the right one to carry on this legacy. : Steve Lipski will sell ice cream, kielbasi & pierogies from his RV. : Harvey Smith will use his phys ed background to get everyone in shape with a round of beach volleyball. : Free yourself. Join the Hudson County's finest leaders and friends at this liberating event. : IT WILL BE A SIGHT TO SEE!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** pi$$ed off posted Message 8004 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 23:26:39 Subject: Re: Don't Take Down Manzo Signs : If you are caught taking down Manzo for Mayor signs, you will get hammered. Years ago when Manzo ran one of the billion times for mayor, he and his brother hammered each others' eyes out...with an actual hammer. : If I had a hammer, I'd hammer in the evening, I'd hammer in the morning, all over this land. : Or you could go out with Healy & actually get hammered. : Or hang out with McCann and end up in the slammer. : Or hang out with Harvey and get in a jammer : with Willie & company, damn her, just damn her. : Feel free to add your own lines of poetry... I'D HAMMER YOUR SIS KAT BUT SHE HAS BEEN SCREWED BY THE GUY WHO BUILT HER HOUSE U REMEMBER THE 1 YOUR MOMMY PAID 4 I'M BACK AND GUESS WHAT? I AM VERY PIO$$ED OFF----SIGNED 132 ***************** End Of Article ****************** dave freeland posted Message 8005 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 23:30:21 Subject: lipski wanted by the fbi the feds have court orders to seize his records for stealing money from his schools to pay for his bid for mayor ***************** End Of Article ****************** MMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!! posted Message 8006 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 23:32:04 Subject: Re: lipski drunk driving : hey the next debate ill have the report, 2001 lipski smashed his car into my friends car. pics to follow, also ask lipski about his arrest for cocaine. I thought Mcann had no!!!!FRIEND'S ??????????? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Slum Lord posted Message 8007 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 17, 2004 at 23:46:00 Subject: Fun and games All public record.... JUDGMENTS FROM NEW JERSEY SUPERIOR COURT Debtor: CLAUDIA BERRIOS Debtor Address: CLAUDIA BERRIOS DUPLEX 270 GRIFFITH ST JERSEY CITY, NJ 07307 Debtor Attorney: PRO SE Creditor: ANTHONY OLSZEWSKI Creditor Address: ANTHONY OLSZEWSKI 270 GRIFFITH ST JERSEY CITY, NJ 07307 Creditor Attorney: PRO SE Number: LT 022392 01 Vendor Number: JT-00022392-2001 Date: 1/16/2002 Filing Type: LANDLORD TENANT JUDGMENT Case Type: TENANCY Status: OPEN County Filed: HUDSON Place Filed: NEW JERSEY SUPERIOR COURT, LAW DIVISION Description: LANDLORD TENANT JUDGMENT COURT ***************** End Of Article ****************** anthony cucci posted Message 8008 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 00:02:12 Subject: respect gerry mccann first of all he is not running for mayor, and second show some respect he was your mayor twice. the only people that might have a problem with him, should be a do nothing police officer that lives out of town. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'M PI$$ED OFF posted Message 8009 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 00:27:41 Subject: Re: Don't Take Down Manzo Signs : : : : exit reality IS DONE SO IS YOUR PORT FRIEND ***************** End Of Article ****************** A$$$$$$$$$ posted Message 8010 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 00:31:11 Subject: Re: THIS IS A GOOD POST - LAUGHS ALL AROUND : Will Tom Short be there tooT WILL BE A SIGHT TO SEE!! u r an a$$ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sign Watcher posted Message 8011 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 00:46:12 Subject: What goes up must come down I was just driving home and I saw some derelicts tearing down Mayor L. Harvey Smith's signs and putting up Manzo signs. Once again McCann supresses the negro vote ***************** End Of Article ****************** ppppppppppppp posted Message 8012 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 00:57:24 Subject: pppppppppppppppppppppppppppp ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Reform Artist posted Message 8013 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 01:02:12 Subject: Show Some Class To all the jealous artist from downtown. Show some class and stop protesting the "To the Struggle Against World Terrorism" monument. It is an international gift, better than anything you could do, and it is beautiful. It doesn't look like a vuvla. If you had a job that you could make money with you would be able to get laid and know. It will rise from J. Owen Gruny Pier and you will cry in your rent subsidized loft forever. Start accepting reality! If you want to see a real vulva click here http://www.freeblackcherry.com/4b41310/pic13.jpg ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy in Laicos posted Message 8014 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 01:09:21 Subject: Drunken Justice Today Healy was seen coming out of Laicos with a to go cup. Not only that he appeared to have an erection. He should show some class, drop out, and attend an AA meeting. He is useless ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chief Wampum posted Message 8015 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 05:02:08 Subject: Re: You Mean Peter Mocco & Jeff Zak Where's the problem? After all, the Dutch only paid my ancestor $24 for Manhattan!!! : What about all the other abatements that were voted on in the past 3 years. Not one was turned down. How come Manzo is being supported by Peter Mocco & Jeff Zak, POST EDITED to join their team. Why is Lou Manzo not writing letters against their abatements? : By the way, Gerry McCann "sold 40 acres of Liberty Harbor North, the most pristine gold coast property in the City to Peter Mocco for $100,000. Yes 100,000 !! Is Lou Manzo going to demand he give it back to Jersey City, no, he will support their abatement. More dirty money for Manzo from dirty people. Ron Manzo, Gerry McCann, Ed Deak, Chucky Davis, Peter Mocco, Jeff Zak, Paul Byrne. The entire softball team from Allenwood prison. Go Lou-ser Go. 0-4 : : : There are plenty of good reasons to trash Harvey without resorting to racial stereotypes. : : My guess is Lipski's in for the price of an RV. : : : I don't know how much is Healy's tab at the bar that drunk? How much stock was Manzo's RAM shareholdings worth, and how much is L. Harvey Smith's stocks in KFC, Watermelon, and Kool Aide Worth. : : : : : : : Yeah! Lipskis's motives are pure, as in pure profit. How can this guy keep a straight face about giving millionaire developers the right to build 432 units of housing and to be rewarded with a tax abatement? Can I get that deal, I'll take it with out the abatement. Let's see 432 units going for about $500,000 per unit = $216 million. Not bad! And they need a $26 million rebate? Get real about Lipski. How much is he in for? : : : : : : : : : One candidate is a drunk and enjoys being naked on his front porch. One candidate has a convicted felon as his chief advisor and hides in the closet, one candidate is the acting mayor and only cares about destroying the Cunningham legacy. Finally, there is a candidate who rises above all this and is worthy of being Mayor - STEVE LIPSKI! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HC Watchdog posted Message 8016 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 06:25:33 Subject: Re: This is a JCDO production I beg to differ. In the past (for mutual interest from what I understand), the HCDO and the JCDO were one and the same. Now that the "Jersey City" leaders are looking for individuality and independence, they are no longer one and the same - as it should be. There are 12 municipalities and 1 county. Leading Democrats outside of JC are a little tired of watching Jersey City's leaders bash each other and make the County Organization a laughing stock. Jersey City's elite have used this race to distance themselves from the Congressman and Sen. Kenny. In return (contrary to some real stupid and naive posts on this site), the HCDO IS NOT backing anyone in this race. And why should it? If they pick the winner, what do they get? NOTHING. If they support a loser, they make unnecessary enemies. Let's just hope ALL Democrats can get back together after this race, regardless of the winner. It is time to put personal differences aside, air the dirty laundry in private (not with the press) and return to state-wide prominence as in years past. : The HCDO and JCDO are birds of a feather. They are one and the same. No big suprise here. : : Can't blame this farce on the HCDO. The Healy campaign is a JCDO production. : : And just think, these are the same world conquerors planning to "get even with Menendez." : : : Biased because they don't sypport Healy? Anyone who is not bought lock stock and barrel by the HCDO would have to be disturbed to support the candidacy of someone who; : : : Is a diabetic who admits to drinking to excess : : : Who admits to being nude in public : : : Who admits that they don't know how they wound up nude in their backyard : : : Who someone vote for a candidate with this profile? : : : Really? Let's hear it from the HCDO monkey's out there! : : : We know your there! : : : : : : God forbid, there's some tragedy. The State Troopers, the Governor, and the head of the Port Authority rush to the residence of the Mayor of Jersey City. They find him easy enough -- LAYING IN THE STREET, DRUNK AND NAKED!!!! : : : : : : : : : ANTHONY your obvious bias against Healy has made this site nothing more than a Healy-bashing venue. No Anthony...I don't expect you to ignore the rumors reported in the NY Times. But I don't expect you to post a "Nudist" magazine cover on your front page and then act as if you are an innocent bystander. You are a partisan. No doubt about it. : : : : : If you weren't a partisan, you would also post Lipski's booking Mug Shot which is readily available and is directly connected to a candidate running for Mayor.... not through insinuation, but as a result of his juvenile actions. You would also post McCann's mug shot which is also readily available from a dozen different sources. : : : : : It is your right to be a partisan Anthony, just don't play innocent and act as though you don't have any agenda here. Don't act as though you are a non-partisan member of the media which is held to a higher standard. You are a political partisan with an agenda. And we can all see that very clearly now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now let's see posted Message 8017 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 07:05:15 Subject: Re: What goes up must come down It couldn't be the Team Healy goon squad headed by Jimmy DICKson ripping down Manzo signs, then ripping down Smith signs and putting up the Manzo signs in their place. Nah, we know that an organization headed by racists wouldn't do that just because a $2-$4 bounty was put out there. Ask the guys in the Ward F Club. It couldn't be the Team Flipski goon squad. What goon squad? A bunch of 15 year olds earning extra credit? It couldn't be the Team Smith goon squad. We all know the brothers are winning. But since about $600K in patronage raises, promotions and hirings has happened since June, we gotta keep them white boys at each others so no one will see what Smith has done. It couldn't be Buonocore. We all know he has the charm of a rabid junk yard dog and everything he does is personal. Everyone who knows Manzo watch your backs - this dog will attack you for having shaken Manzo's hand. Thank God this guy got knocked off the ticket. Mussolini was a kindly old grandfather type next to this guy. Hey I know. Maybe Louie Walcott got aliens from the Mother Ship to do it. : I was just driving home and I saw some derelicts tearing down Mayor L. Harvey Smith's signs and putting up Manzo signs. Once again McCann supresses the negro vote ***************** End Of Article ****************** Political Lifeline posted Message 8018 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 08:22:13 Subject: Re: Was Jerry Hiding in the Bush? Healy's personal life may be out of control but it's rather obvious that Manzo's political life it totally under McCann's control. Gerry may not be running for mayor but he is running Manzo's political life. Any vote for Manzo will give McCann access to City Hall and we cannot afford to ever have Jerry McCann anywhere near the Mayor's Office. : Gerry McCann blah! blah! blah! Who cares? He's not running for mayor but Jerry Healy is. And his personal life is totally out of control. McCann will not be the mayor, but the thought of Healy being the mayor? How many more instances of his public nudity before you hear about it on the Jay Leno show? JC will be the laughing stock of the country. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hmmmm.....what to do with the monument posted Message 8019 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 08:44:03 Subject: Re: Show Some Class The monument is hideous and out of scale with the surrounding area. However, it was a free gift. What to do with it. My idea is to accept it, grind it up and fill the potholes with it. With it being 10 stories tall, it will fill lots of potholes! : To all the jealous artist from downtown. Show some class and stop protesting the "To the Struggle Against World Terrorism" monument. It is an international gift, better than anything you could do, and it is beautiful. It doesn't look like a vuvla. If you had a job that you could make money with you would be able to get laid and know. It will rise from J. Owen Gruny Pier and you will cry in your rent subsidized loft forever. Start accepting reality! : If you want to see a real vulva click here http://www.freeblackcherry.com/4b41310/pic13.jpg ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 8020 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 08:46:04 Subject: Jersey City Reporter Political Column . . . The fact that Healy may not survive to the election may never have across Buonocore's mind. . . . Although attacks have been fired in all directions and at nearly every candidate, the two most pervading questions centered on Buonocore's residency and why Healy was found naked on his own door step. Healy, when interviewed for the Times article admitted in the story that he had diabetes and had had a few beers that night. . . . The Healy campaign, however, has suffered from its own internal problems. In a classic case of "one hand not knowing what the other is doing" Carmine Venezia has been credited with orchestrating the move that would have put Raymond Manzo on the ballot - an effort to confuse voters and possibly shave a few hundred votes from Lou Manzo in what was seen as a tight race. Venezia was also credited with the move to put presidential candidate John Kerry's name on signs supporting Healy, a move that upset some in the Kerry campaign because the mayoral special election is supposed to be non-partisan. . . . Click on the Link to read the complete piece. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 8021 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 09:09:58 Subject: Re: Drunken Justice FIRST OF ALL HEALY CANT GET AN ERECTION HE IS DIABETIC AND HE NEVER DOES TAKLE OUT .BUT HE WILL GET AN ORGASMN WHEN HE BEATS MANZO ON NOVEMBER 2ND ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know who it was. posted Message 8022 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 09:10:29 Subject: That's real low! Whatever man. Do what u want say what u want U can't stop what's going to happen. : : Someone's getting nervous!!!!!! : No nervous........drugs in Hq....workers for FLOOD all in drugs just go to the restaurant for ribs and etc etc,,,, ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watchdog. posted Message 8023 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 09:15:08 Subject: Uncle Harvey $cumbag paid someone to break the window at Willie Flood's club. That is really and act of desperation. And not to mention very low. Some people have no class. I wouldn't vote for someone like that who stoops down to that level. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CAROLINE posted Message 8024 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 09:16:44 Subject: NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN HELPS! THE NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN THAT LOU MANZO AND MCCANN HAS BEEN RUNNING. HAS HEL;PED JERRY HEAL TREMENDOUSELY. HE PICKED UP IN THE POLLS 20 POINTS SINCE IT STARTED THE VOTERS WANT TO HEAR ISSUES NO ABOUT DRUNKS AND NUDE PICS. MCCANN WILL SURELY LOSE IT FOR MANZO SO KEEP IT UP SHOW THE PICS SO HEALY CAN JUMP AHEAD SOME MORE BEFORE ELECTION . THE PEOPLE ARE DISGUSTED WITH MANZOS TACTICS . I PREDICT HEALY WINS DESPITE THE NEGATIVE AIMED AT HIM. KEEP IT UP GERRY MCCANN YOUR TERROR REIN IS FINISHED. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 8025 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 09:23:40 Subject: Willie Flood is the ONLY candidate who will represent EVERYBODY. Not just friends and family. Everybody knows that Willie worked side by side with Glenn. She is the only one who knows how take Glenn's vision and legacy to the next level. With her ideas and motives behind them, this city would go back to the people not to these money grubbing idiots. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Laughing Stock posted Message 8026 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 09:28:34 Subject: We don't want an irresponsible drunk running the city either. Come on people. The Man admitted that he got drunk and naked and didn't remember how he got there. That's some bull$hit. I would never let a man like that represent me. He can't even think for himself. How could he possibly effectively run a city. He won't even admit that he needs counseling. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Observer posted Message 8027 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 09:32:41 Subject: Manzo is a racist homo who hates minorities. He just wants to bring all his scum bag developer friends to City Hall. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Observer. posted Message 8028 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 09:35:17 Subject: Uncle Harvey didn't You run as a REPUBLICAN with Schindler? But you care about the black community. You hate your own people more than you hate white people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sphinx posted Message 8029 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 09:41:56 Subject: Healy should run for Pharaoh! Cause he is in DeNile! ***************** End Of Article ****************** And he puts crazy glue in locks too! posted Message 8030 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 09:51:30 Subject: Re: Uncle Harvey $cumbag paid someone to break the window at Willie Flood's club. Hmmm, just like Arnold Williams to do this! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The RIGHT CHOICE posted Message 8031 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 10:11:48 Subject: Willie is FAIR, UNBOUGHT, and UNBOSSED If you want fair politics vote for Willie Flood. She is the only one who dosen't have a negative record. What can they say about her that are hard FACTS. Not opinions. She smiles alot? She's an airhead? Come on. I don't see them just giving away degrees to anyone. So that is an opinion. She is the best candidate and she has my vote! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Toy posted Message 8032 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 10:12:07 Subject: Jersey City is Porky Pig Menendezs Toy He got them all playing his Game. Shame on all of you so called Political leaders.Money and power rule over all the Taxpayers in Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The RIGHT CHOICE posted Message 8033 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 10:13:38 Subject: Willie is FAIR, UNBOUGHT, and UNBOSSED If you want fair politics vote for Willie Flood. She is the only one who dosen't have a negative record. What can they say about her that are hard FACTS. Not opinions. She smiles alot? She's an airhead? Come on. I don't see them just giving away degrees to anyone. So that is an opinion. She is the best candidate and she has my vote! ***************** End Of Article ****************** .................. posted Message 8034 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 10:15:58 Subject: She's just an all around beautiful person. I hope people see the light and don't let one of these a$$holes get in office. : If you want fair politics vote for Willie Flood. She is the only one who dosen't have a negative record. What can they say about her that are hard FACTS. Not opinions. She smiles alot? She's an airhead? Come on. I don't see them just giving away degrees to anyone. So that is an opinion. She is the best candidate and she has my vote! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fed Up. posted Message 8035 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 10:17:58 Subject: He also threatens people to support him!! If someone even mentions Mrs Flood at city hall he transfers them to Palisade ave. : Hmmm, just like Arnold Williams to do this! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bare Facts posted Message 8036 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 10:18:55 Subject: All that McCann wants from Healy is the bare facts I drink to that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Former Student posted Message 8037 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 10:20:23 Subject: Ask Uncle Harvey how many kids he choked at Dickinson? I saw him choke 1 but that's just what I saw. And the kid's friends and parents wanted to kick his tired a$$. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Observer posted Message 8038 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 10:25:55 Subject: Willie Flood is the only one without a dirty record. All these other guys have bees in scandal after scandal. It's not going to change. Jersey City needs someone who gives a damn about this city. And doesn't have alterior motives. ***************** End Of Article ****************** We're here for you Willie posted Message 8039 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 10:32:49 Subject: Glenn didn't have one either that's why they killed him. Be careful Willie. Harvey is desperate!! Mrs. Flood you are the only one without a record. Please be careful. They will try to set you or your son or your husband up. They are that desperate. You see they broke the window at your club. I'm not trying to be negative but I just want you to be aware. The word is out. Be careful what you eat and drink they will poision you like they did Glenn!! : All these other guys have bees in scandal after scandal. It's not going to change. Jersey City needs someone who gives a damn about this city. And doesn't have alterior motives. ***************** End Of Article ****************** True posted Message 8040 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 10:45:56 Subject: Willie Flood dosen't just help people during election time! These other guys are just out there helping people and giving raises because its election time. Let's see if you see them after. ***************** End Of Article ****************** amused posted Message 8041 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 11:00:41 Subject: ESL Why do the Manzo and Flood people hired to write this drivel on line all come from English as a second language classes? Native born or foreign, their English is atrocious. Hire some folks who can read and write to make the message intelligible if not credible. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Or His Cohorts from the County TG, BG, BD posted Message 8042 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 11:01:08 Subject: Re: We don't want an irresponsible drunk running the city either. : Come on people. The Man admitted that he got drunk and naked and didn't remember how he got there. That's some bull$hit. I would never let a man like that represent me. He can't even think for himself. How could he possibly effectively run a city. He won't even admit that he needs counseling. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO Poster Child posted Message 8043 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 11:02:46 Subject: Healy Useless? Bingo! Now you know why the HCDO loves him. : Today Healy was seen coming out of Laicos with a to go cup. Not only that he appeared to have an erection. He should show some class, drop out, and attend an AA meeting. He is useless ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get A life. posted Message 8044 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 11:38:47 Subject: Stick to the issues. Who do you work for? Drunk Monkey? Boooooooooooooooooooo! That was so coorny. : Why do the Manzo and Flood people hired to write this drivel on line all come from English as a second language classes? Native born or foreign, their English is atrocious. Hire some folks who can read and write to make the message intelligible if not credible. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I, Claudius posted Message 8045 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 11:44:26 Subject: Grow your own food Willie Caesar Augustus grew his own fruit trees and ate from them. But be careful. Someone like the evil Livia might paint the fruit with poison. Have your good friend Kabili taste it for you first. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poor Nicole posted Message 8046 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 12:01:20 Subject: OJ Simpson to endorse Flood Willie is gaining more support each day. OJ Simpson is in town and will be having a press conference in which he will endorse Willie Flood. Sandra Cunningham and OJ Simpson...Willie is a shoe in for mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** She will. posted Message 8047 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 12:02:03 Subject: Thank you for the concern. She is very well taken care of and protected from people like you. : Caesar Augustus grew his own fruit trees and ate from them. But be careful. Someone like the evil Livia might paint the fruit with poison. : Have your good friend Kabili taste it for you first. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bored posted Message 8048 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 12:06:19 Subject: See they always turn it into a racial thing. That's tired. Think of something else. Come on give us some real facts as to why we shouldn't vote for Willie. Not just because she is a woman or she is black. : Willie is gaining more support each day. OJ Simpson is in town and will be having a press conference in which he will endorse Willie Flood. Sandra Cunningham and OJ Simpson...Willie is a shoe in for mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lotsa Talk posted Message 8049 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 13:09:27 Subject: No Pix... Sounds like a Gerry Scam to me : I drink to that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watchin the Convict posted Message 8050 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 13:15:37 Subject: McCann out to SINK Manzo Its more obvious every day that Gerry McCann is out ot sink Lou Manzo's campaign. He went negative early on...which is a "no no" that any political novice can tell you. He has made himself the issue, rather than keeping the focus on Manzo and his plans. He has alienated anyone who may have been thinking about being a cross-over voter. In short...he has done everything he can to get even with Manzo for bouncing him from the ballot last time. I wonder what deal he has strick with Healy for after the election. Or has he cozied up to Menendez and DeGise? We'll find out after November. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCann was always with Degise posted Message 8051 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 14:19:08 Subject: Re: McCann out of the Manzo camp Back with DeGise/Healy camp McCann was thrown out of the Manzo camp last week. It was found that McCann had been a spy for DeGise the whole time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** How the hell could they be loyal to us? posted Message 8052 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 14:30:51 Subject: These gerkoffs can't even be loyal to eachother. I'm voting for Willie at least she is honest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Halo posted Message 8053 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 14:49:06 Subject: Harvey Smith Sign Removal Crew Harvey Smith is paying $2.00 each for Manzo and or Healy signs taken off of private property. Harvey Smith, nothing but a scum bag. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALYIN NOV posted Message 8054 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 16:06:17 Subject: Re: McCann out of the Manzo camp Back with DeGise/Healy camp : THATS CRAZY!! COME ON MAKE SOMTHING ELSE UP WE ALL KLNOW HEALY WOULD NEVER WANT MCCANN TO BE ANY PART OF HIS CAMPAIGN!!! LETS GET REALISTIC HERE! PLEASE!. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Informer posted Message 8055 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 16:21:37 Subject: Cucci is filing lawsuit against Anthony & GetNJ Cucci blasts Anthony and GETNJ for an anonymous post with his name saying nice things about McCann. Cucci now has seen a lawyer. What do you have to say Anthony? ***************** End Of Article ****************** So True posted Message 8056 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 16:33:52 Subject: Healy wouldn't have McCann McCann may have been tossed from the Manzo campaign, but he would never get with Healy. Beside that fact that his sister works for Manzo's Assembly office, Healy can't stand McCann. And the people around Healy would jump ship in a second if McCann joined up. : : THATS CRAZY!! COME ON MAKE SOMTHING ELSE UP WE ALL KLNOW HEALY WOULD NEVER WANT MCCANN TO BE ANY PART OF HIS CAMPAIGN!!! LETS GET REALISTIC HERE! PLEASE!. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 8057 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 17:11:41 Subject: Re: Cucci is filing lawsuit against Anthony & GetNJ Well, if there is a lawsuit, the courts will demand the record of the ISPs to determine who placed the message. Depositions will be taken to determine who the two people were that fowarded the message to Anthony Cucci. : Cucci blasts Anthony and GETNJ for an anonymous post with his name saying nice things about McCann. : Cucci now has seen a lawyer. : What do you have to say Anthony? ***************** End Of Article ****************** confused posted Message 8058 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 17:31:32 Subject: what legacy what legacy ***************** End Of Article ****************** Protect the Elderly posted Message 8059 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 20:02:26 Subject: Anthony...You putting old ladies out on the street? And in JANUARY? In the middle of the winter no less? :( : All public record.... : : JUDGMENTS FROM NEW JERSEY : SUPERIOR COURT : Debtor: CLAUDIA BERRIOS : Debtor Address: CLAUDIA BERRIOS : DUPLEX : 270 GRIFFITH ST : JERSEY CITY, NJ 07307 : Debtor Attorney: PRO SE : Creditor: ANTHONY OLSZEWSKI : Creditor Address: ANTHONY OLSZEWSKI : 270 GRIFFITH ST : JERSEY CITY, NJ 07307 : Creditor Attorney: PRO SE : Number: LT 022392 01 : Vendor Number: JT-00022392-2001 : Date: 1/16/2002 : Filing Type: LANDLORD TENANT JUDGMENT : Case Type: TENANCY : Status: OPEN : County Filed: HUDSON : Place Filed: NEW JERSEY SUPERIOR COURT, LAW DIVISION : Description: LANDLORD TENANT JUDGMENT COURT ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Can See the Nail Holes in Your Hands posted Message 8060 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 20:23:47 Subject: Gerry McCann Boy Oh Boy! First the attack on the Manzo campaign by the Healy camp was because Manzo was Gay. That attack made no sense and just sent more votes to Lou, Thank You Healy Trolls. Now the Healy Camp is try to demonize Gerry McCann, that he is the evil hand behind Manzo. Well, this tactic will not work either, since the candidate is Lou Manzo not McCann, so lets get back to the candidates. Let's hear Healy supporters justify the reckless behavior of their candidate, are these the qualities that the voters want to see in the person they elect? Lets put that question before the voters and see who comes out on top. : McCann may have been tossed from the Manzo campaign, but he would never get with Healy. Beside that fact that his sister works for Manzo's Assembly office, Healy can't stand McCann. And the people around Healy would jump ship in a second if McCann joined up. : : : THATS CRAZY!! COME ON MAKE SOMTHING ELSE UP WE ALL KLNOW HEALY WOULD NEVER WANT MCCANN TO BE ANY PART OF HIS CAMPAIGN!!! LETS GET REALISTIC HERE! PLEASE!. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tit for Tat posted Message 8061 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 20:26:08 Subject: Dead Cat and Broken Windows Could it be the broken window was in reaction the the dead cat? : Come on give us some real facts as to why we shouldn't vote for Willie. Not just because she is a woman or she is black. : : : Willie is gaining more support each day. OJ Simpson is in town and will be having a press conference in which he will endorse Willie Flood. Sandra Cunningham and OJ Simpson...Willie is a shoe in for mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cheapskate! posted Message 8062 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 20:29:40 Subject: Re: Harvey Smith Sign Removal Crew :: Healy's paying $4! Harvey Smith is paying $2.00 each for Manzo and or Healy signs taken off of private property. Harvey Smith, nothing but a scum bag. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let's Call a Spade a Spade posted Message 8063 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 20:30:45 Subject: Like Jerry Healy Did? Err, Manzo publicly went on the record against abatements for developers, but there was a councilmen by the name of Jerry healy who introduced the motion to approve the Flintkote abatement only to then vote against it. Did he learn his skills from the Flip flopper of the year - john kerry? Was this the actions of a man of integrity? is he as bigoted as the person who posted the last message? : He just wants to bring all his scum bag developer friends to City Hall. ***************** End Of Article ****************** How low can you go? posted Message 8064 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 20:33:23 Subject: did he urin-ate on the cat too? Anthony, you should compile the posts from this campaign, it would make entertaining reading and would be an excellent text on how the political process works in JC. I can this book to be required reading at Harvard Law School. : If someone even mentions Mrs Flood at city hall he transfers them to Palisade ave. : : Hmmm, just like Arnold Williams to do this! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry Healy's Bid to be Mayor posted Message 8065 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 20:38:21 Subject: This Comment Makes About as Much Sense as --- Call Gerry McCann all the names you want but he wouldn't be so stupid as to be a turncoat for Healy. A move like that would be the end of his involvment in JC politics. Do you have to fail an IQ test to vote for Jerry Healy? : Its more obvious every day that Gerry McCann is out ot sink Lou Manzo's campaign. He went negative early on...which is a "no no" that any political novice can tell you. He has made himself the issue, rather than keeping the focus on Manzo and his plans. He has alienated anyone who may have been thinking about being a cross-over voter. In short...he has done everything he can to get even with Manzo for bouncing him from the ballot last time. I wonder what deal he has strick with Healy for after the election. Or has he cozied up to Menendez and DeGise? We'll find out after November. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerzzycity posted Message 8066 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 21:04:56 Subject: LIPSKI rolling towards victory All others argue Lipski campaigns ***************** End Of Article ****************** dailleztbabyboy posted Message 8067 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 21:05:38 Subject: Re: LIPSKI = victory : All others argue Lipski campaigns ***************** End Of Article ****************** FAMILY VALUES posted Message 8068 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 21:06:52 Subject: Re: NEXT MAYOR LIPSKI : : All others argue Lipski campaigns Not gay Not drunk ***************** End Of Article ****************** kokie posted Message 8069 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 21:08:43 Subject: Re: LIPSKI is on the Way : : : All others argue Lipski campaigns : Not gay Not drunk Like the Lne Ranger! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City Fraud posted Message 8070 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 21:09:45 Subject: lou Manzo McManzo Bozo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Did You Eat your Bannana's Today? posted Message 8071 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 21:59:09 Subject: Re: lou Manzo Do you know how to construct a full sentence? Just asking. : McManzo Bozo ***************** End Of Article ****************** To Knowwhere posted Message 8072 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 23:15:33 Subject: Re: LIPSKI is on the Way : : : : All others argue Lipski campaigns : : Not gay Not drunk : Like the Lne Ranger! ***************** End Of Article ****************** You offer instruction on the English Language? posted Message 8073 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 23:34:37 Subject: Re: lou Manzo Excuse me...but do you think that -->> Just asking.<<-- is a full sentence? For your information, it's not a complete sentence. It lacks a noun. Next time you choose to deride someone for failing to use proper English, you might want to have someone edit your poorly constructed comments before you post them. : Do you know how to construct a full sentence? : Just asking. : : McManzo Bozo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Did You Teach Healy How to Undress? Teach posted Message 8074 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 23:49:51 Subject: Teacher Teacher! : Excuse me...but do you think that -->> Just asking.<<-- is a full sentence? For your information, it's not a complete sentence. It lacks a noun. Next time you choose to deride someone for failing to use proper English, you might want to have someone edit your poorly constructed comments before you post them. : : Do you know how to construct a full sentence? : : Just asking. : : : McManzo Bozo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Image - Healy was a Judge! Scarey posted Message 8075 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 18, 2004 at 23:51:40 Subject: Re: Drunken Justice : FIRST OF ALL HEALY CANT GET AN ERECTION HE IS DIABETIC : AND HE NEVER DOES TAKLE OUT .BUT HE WILL GET AN ORGASMN WHEN HE BEATS MANZO ON NOVEMBER 2ND ***************** End Of Article ****************** dave freeland posted Message 8076 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 00:09:59 Subject: lipski and healy at lunch saw lipski and healy at lunch together at the light horse tavern today. " interesting " ***************** End Of Article ****************** anthony c posted Message 8077 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 00:18:30 Subject: Re: Cis filing lawsuit against Anthony & GetNJ : blasts Anthony and GETNJ for an anonymous post with his name saying nice things about McCann. : now has seen a lawyer. : What do you have to say Anthony? i did not know i could be sued for saying something nice,and i meant what i said, show some respect for your former mayor ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sure seems strange posted Message 8078 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 06:38:48 Subject: Re: lipski and healy at lunch :::Who knew that either was familiar with a knife and fork. **HIC** : saw lipski and healy at lunch together at the light horse tavern today. " interesting " ***************** End Of Article ****************** Porky Pig Demise posted Message 8079 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 07:31:01 Subject: Menendez plays with Healys mind Healy doesnt know if he should stand or sit at Menendezs alter.But he needs the gig.McCann is coming out with another block buster on Healy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Legislative Process posted Message 8080 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 07:52:46 Subject: Re: Like Jerry Healy Did? Just because someone introduces a motion on something does not automatically mean that they are voting for it. Sometimes, things are introduced just to kill it. If Healy was convinced that he had the votes to kill something off, he could introduce it for a vote just to kill the measure. There's no flopping here...just the way the system works. : Err, Manzo publicly went on the record against abatements for developers, but there was a councilmen by the name of Jerry healy who introduced the motion to approve the Flintkote abatement only to then vote against it. Did he learn his skills from the Flip flopper of the year - john kerry? : Was this the actions of a man of integrity? is he as bigoted as the person who posted the last message? : : He just wants to bring all his scum bag developer friends to City Hall. ***************** End Of Article ****************** From your keyboard to G-d's ear posted Message 8081 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 07:54:15 Subject: Re: This Comment Makes About as Much Sense as --- Let's all hope that this is the end of Gerry's involvement in JC politics. : Call Gerry McCann all the names you want but he wouldn't be so stupid as to be a turncoat for Healy. A move like that would be the end of his involvment in JC politics. : Do you have to fail an IQ test to vote for Jerry Healy? : : Its more obvious every day that Gerry McCann is out ot sink Lou Manzo's campaign. He went negative early on...which is a "no no" that any political novice can tell you. He has made himself the issue, rather than keeping the focus on Manzo and his plans. He has alienated anyone who may have been thinking about being a cross-over voter. In short...he has done everything he can to get even with Manzo for bouncing him from the ballot last time. I wonder what deal he has strick with Healy for after the election. Or has he cozied up to Menendez and DeGise? We'll find out after November. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Curse posted Message 8082 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 08:05:26 Subject: Glenn Cunninghams Curse on Menendez Glenn Cunningham will not rest until his curse on Menendez is fulfilled.Jersey City Ward F will do its part for Mayor Cunningham. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Deal-County Executive posted Message 8083 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 08:30:01 Subject: Deal has been made to move out DeGise & Gaughan Sires And Sacco may stand by these two.Menendez will pute the arm on the rest of the inside boys for Manzo.It looks like it will be Odea as County Executive.Stack likes the idea along with Doria. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 8084 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 08:42:20 Subject: Gaughan and Degise secret weapon on 11/2 for Healy? Gaughan and Degise plan to unleash the magnetotorq. This advanced technology will pull the Healy supporters out of the bars and into the polling locations. : Sires And Sacco may stand by these two.Menendez will pute the arm on the rest of the inside boys for Manzo.It looks like it will be Odea as County Executive.Stack likes the idea along with Doria. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Druken Mayor posted Message 8085 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 08:59:37 Subject: Just what Jersey City needs right now Lets keep the bars open 24-7.Each day we can use a different bar in JC as our City Hall.This way it wont interfere with our drining.McCann can take pictures and keep notes on how its going.Astor Bar will be the main City Hall for the gang from hell. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Orders for the Day posted Message 8086 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 09:21:17 Subject: Smith must take Votes away from Flood Or Menendez will not give Harvey Smith any goodies.Roger Jones must keep Harvey ticking up to election day. Both will then be rewarded by Kenny And Menendez for being good boys for the Democratic County Machine. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Too Good To Be True posted Message 8087 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 09:21:29 Subject: Re: Deal has been made to move out DeGise & Gaughan Nice thought. Although some of the candidates for Mayor may not seem that great the thought of getting rid of DeGise and Gaughan would be fantastic, exhilerating, liberating, etc etc etc : Sires And Sacco may stand by these two.Menendez will pute the arm on the rest of the inside boys for Manzo.It looks like it will be Odea as County Executive.Stack likes the idea along with Doria. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise May Need Help posted Message 8088 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 09:24:18 Subject: A Magnet is a 'High-Tech"Device DeGise may need to put their high-paid consultants in for a raise to show them how to use a magnet. Another $500,000 should do it. F_ck the taxpayers Tommy, your the King. : Gaughan and Degise plan to unleash the magnetotorq. This advanced technology will pull the Healy supporters out of the bars and into the polling locations. : : Sires And Sacco may stand by these two.Menendez will pute the arm on the rest of the inside boys for Manzo.It looks like it will be Odea as County Executive.Stack likes the idea along with Doria. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ubie Doobie Doo posted Message 8089 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 09:45:39 Subject: Re: Gaughan and Degise secret weapon on 11/2 for Healy? ::Love it!!!!!! : Gaughan and Degise plan to unleash the magnetotorq. This advanced technology will pull the Healy supporters out of the bars and into the polling locations. : : Sires And Sacco may stand by these two.Menendez will pute the arm on the rest of the inside boys for Manzo.It looks like it will be Odea as County Executive.Stack likes the idea along with Doria. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Motive posted Message 8090 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 10:00:44 Subject: Its all about " Me".The Hell with whats good for JC Give some money to all of them.Senator Kenny said,Me too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joe Franklin posted Message 8091 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 10:17:41 Subject: What ever happened to Richardson and Fulop? Councilwoman Viola Richardson and Steve Fulop were center stage there for a while, even after Glenn's passing. Now you don't hear anything at all about them. I figured on them having a big role in the Jersey City mayor's election. Are they both keeping out of sight for some reason? ***************** End Of Article ****************** LooneyLou posted Message 8092 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 10:22:21 Subject: Louis your time is near DON’T TRUST LOU MANZO Judge OKs witness list in case against former McGreevey aide The Associated Press August 6, 2004 10:06 PM NEW YORK - A District Court judge signed an order approving the government's list of potential witnesses in its insider trading case against Gary Taffet, a former top aide to Gov. James E. McGreevey. Included on the list approved Thursday by Judge Shira Scheindlin are several high profile Democrats, including developer Charles Kushner, a top donor who has been charged in a separate federal obstruction case; George Norcross, a prominent behind-the-scenes player in Democratic Party politics in southern New Jersey; state Assembly Majority Leader Joseph Roberts (D-Camden); former McGreevey aide Paul Levinsohn and Assemblyman Louis Manzo (D-Hudson), whose brother admitted to tipping Taffet to the insider stock tips. Federal Charges against Manzo. Commencing in or around 1998, in violation of the duties of trust and confidence he owed to his wife, Gallucci started tipping Manzo about the identities of the companies targeted for acquisition in transactions. From the onset, Gallucci told Manzo that the tips were based on information that he obtained from his wife, who had learned it in the course of her employment by an attorney who worked on mergers and acquisitions. Gallucci disclosed this information to Manzo with the knowledge and intent that Manzo would use it for trading purposes. Thereafter, Gallucci continued to tip Manzo, and Manzo continued to purchase securities of the target companies and to recommend them to others. Gallucci conveyed the tips in telephone calls from New York and in person, at Manzo’s “RAM Insurance Company” located on Westside avenue in Jersey City, New Jersey. Isn’t it time Louis Manzo tells the public the truth about his insider trading profits? PRODUCE YOUR TAX RETURNS THE PUBLIC DESERVES THE TRUTH ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bombshell posted Message 8093 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 10:36:30 Subject: McCann saving best for last Oh the humanity ***************** End Of Article ****************** insider posted Message 8094 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 10:49:39 Subject: Re: What ever happened to Richardson and Fulop? good point, I think Fulop is heavily invovled on the Manzo team downtown and Richardson is getting ready to run again for council for ward F. What do you think will happen to Lipski after this? : Councilwoman Viola Richardson and Steve Fulop were center stage there for a while, even after Glenn's passing. : Now you don't hear anything at all about them. I figured on them having a big role in the Jersey City mayor's election. : Are they both keeping out of sight for some reason? ***************** End Of Article ****************** smith is done posted Message 8095 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 10:55:38 Subject: Re: What ever happened to Richardson and Fulop? defenitely smarter than that. No way Fulop is with Loony Lou, I would be surprised : good point, I think Fulop is heavily invovled on the Manzo team downtown and Richardson is getting ready to run again for council for ward F. What do you think will happen to Lipski after this? : : Councilwoman Viola Richardson and Steve Fulop were center stage there for a while, even after Glenn's passing. : : Now you don't hear anything at all about them. I figured on them having a big role in the Jersey City mayor's election. : : Are they both keeping out of sight for some reason? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 8096 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 11:29:06 Subject: Online Video: Glenn Cunningham's 2003 City Hall Rally To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** How Enlightening posted Message 8097 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 13:49:30 Subject: Re: Teacher Teacher! What a witty comeback. How insightful your comment was, but only into your complete lack of intelligence. How telling it is to have a neanderthal such as yourself comeback with such an incredible retort such as "McManzo Bozo". I was certain such a facetious individual such as yourself would have the intelligence to support someone who could define their positions in a campaign rather than throw mud. But then again...what do I know? : : Excuse me...but do you think that -->> Just asking.<<-- is a full sentence? For your information, it's not a complete sentence. It lacks a noun. Next time you choose to deride someone for failing to use proper English, you might want to have someone edit your poorly constructed comments before you post them. : : : Do you know how to construct a full sentence? : : : Just asking. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Deal in the Works posted Message 8098 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 13:51:48 Subject: Re: lipski and healy at lunch Not strange at all. Lipski knows his chances are slim to none and is looking to make a deal with the likely winner. This surprises you people? : saw lipski and healy at lunch together at the light horse tavern today. " interesting " ***************** End Of Article ****************** Citizen's Watchgroup posted Message 8099 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 13:59:00 Subject: LIPSKI WAS AT OCEAN TOWERS FEEDING SENIORS NOT WITH HEALY FEED ME!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fudge packer posted Message 8100 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 14:13:45 Subject: Re: McManzo to visit Golan Cipel : Oh the humanity ***************** End Of Article ****************** Delightful posted Message 8101 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 14:20:07 Subject: Re: McManzo to visit Golan Cipel :::::Healy is on record in the JJ that he has refrained from mudslinging. Of course, his hands are clean. He has the minions of the County to do it for him. He has run a filthy campaign while not soiling himself. And this is what you fools want for a mayor? : : Oh the humanity ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why Not? posted Message 8102 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 14:46:40 Subject: Re: Just what Jersey City needs right now There are some productive drunks out there. Maybe jerry is one of them. Besides we can sell city hall to a developer, and pocket the cash for the bar bill. : Lets keep the bars open 24-7.Each day we can use a different bar in JC as our City Hall.This way it wont interfere with our drining.McCann can take pictures and keep notes on how its going.Astor Bar will be the main City Hall for the gang from hell. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Need My Lipski fix! posted Message 8103 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 15:18:28 Subject: Re: LIPSKI WAS AT OCEAN TOWERS FEEDING SENIORS NOT WITH HEALY I nned my geritol fix! quick! Where's my Lip? : FEED ME!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ff posted Message 8104 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 15:30:40 Subject: Re: LIPSKI is on the Way He whiffs. : : : : : All others argue Lipski campaigns : : : Not gay Not drunk : : Like the Lne Ranger! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Curious posted Message 8105 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 15:35:45 Subject: Healy naked pix Did anybody ever see the photos ? Do they exist ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poindexter posted Message 8106 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 15:46:07 Subject: Re: Healy naked pix : Did anybody ever see the photos ? Do they exist ? In the New York Times article, Healy admits that he was drunk and naked in the street. The article is on the web. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Voyuer posted Message 8107 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 15:51:49 Subject: Gerry's Dirty Little Secret Apparently McCann is keeping them for his own "personal" pleasure... : Did anybody ever see the photos ? Do they exist ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** John Russ. posted Message 8108 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 15:52:41 Subject: Naked Photos of Joe Doria These are worse than Healy's. Even Jerry McCann had to throw up and wouldn't dare use them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Their for Real posted Message 8109 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 16:07:51 Subject: Re: Healy naked pix One of Healy's neighbors took the pic's not Gerry McCann. Aparently the neighbor was getting sick and tired of Healy doing this repeatedly. The neighbor has small kids. So the neighbor took the pic's. I saw the pic's. THeir real. Gerry McCann did ot show me the pic's. Seems there are quit a few peple with copies of the pic's. They are spreading over the internet like wild-fire. Don;t be suprised if you find a copy in your in box. : : Did anybody ever see the photos ? Do they exist ? : In the New York Times article, Healy admits that he was drunk and naked in the street. The article is on the web. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth be Told posted Message 8110 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 16:18:52 Subject: Re: Healy naked pix You are really funny!!! : One of Healy's neighbors took the pic's not Gerry McCann. : Aparently the neighbor was getting sick and tired of Healy doing this repeatedly. The neighbor has small kids. So the neighbor took the pic's. I saw the pic's. THeir real. Gerry McCann did ot show me the pic's. Seems there are quit a few peple with copies of the pic's. They are spreading over the internet like wild-fire. Don;t be suprised if you find a copy in your in box. : : : Did anybody ever see the photos ? Do they exist ? : : In the New York Times article, Healy admits that he was drunk and naked in the street. The article is on the web. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rev. Edward Allen posted Message 8111 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 16:32:19 Subject: L. HARVEY SMITH: DOUBLE-CROSSING CUNNINGHAM TO THE END L. HARVEY SMITH: DOUBLE-CROSSING CUNNINGHAM TO THE END AN OPEN LETTER TO THE PEOPLE OF JERSEY CITY Dear Friends of Jersey City: We were truly blessed by our short time with the beloved Glenn D. Cunningham. This makes it hard to stomach the hypocrisy of our Acting Mayor. Treachery and double-crossing have been the hallmark of L. Harvey Smith as Acting Mayor, Council President and Councilman. Let us examine the true history of L. Harvey Smith before his Bush-like propaganda allowed him to revise the facts. Mr. Smith claims authority as an elected official. He fails to clarify that he was elected to the City Council as a republican on the same ticket as Bret Schundler in 2000. This ticket also sponsored Tom DeGise as Council President and William Gaughan as representative of the Heights. When Mr. Schundler ran for governor in 2001, Tom DeGise ran for mayor with a slate of nine (9) city council candidates. Smith was on the council but was denied a slot on the DeGise ticket. Smith then went to Cunningham who was considering leaving the U.S. Marshall's office. Cunningham didn't trust Smith and was reluctant to work with him. Smith's persistence convinced Cunningham's associates to accept the double-dealing L. Harvey as their At-Large candidate, and they convinced him, thinking it was a tactical move. When Cunningham won, Smith rode his coattails to victory, ingratiating himself sufficiently to elicit Cunningham's trust. Our beloved and forgiving mayor cautiously recommended Smith for Council President, and the newly installed Council respectfully supported his nomination. It would be among the last things the City Council would ever do in support of Glenn Cunningham. Tom DeGise and William Gaughan aroused the latent jealousy of L. Harvey Smith telling him he should have been the city's first African American mayor. From that point Smith worked against Glenn Cunningham at every turn. Smith was a grateful tool of DeGise and Gaughan, and blocked all the mayor's appointments to every city agency board, including Reverend Ralph Brower, head of the Interdenominational Ministerial Alliance and John McReynolds, pastor of the Mt. Olive Baptist Church. Harvey was to make Glenn look bad at any costs. Now Smith has filled every board appointment with his own cronies. Smith led the fight to defeat the bond plan the Cunningham administration proposed for refinancing the city debt. Interest rates were at an all-time low. The Cunningham plan would have stabilized taxes for ten years. It included considerations for money to improve the city infrastructure, develop ignored areas of Jersey City, and spur the economy. It was reviewed and approved by Goldman Sachs without cost to the city, but it wasn't enough. Smith willingly led the City Council against this initiative. William Gaughan paid for ads that declared no bond deal was necessary. Smith was willing to bankrupt Jersey City in order to please his political masters. After our political angel had fallen Smith offered his own scaled down bond plan, claiming it was "different" from Cunningham's plan. It was. Smith's plan costs the taxpayer higher interest rates. It included no investment in the city. It has not been reviewed by outside sources and our tax burden will increase within five years. The Smith machine also distorts former State Senator Joe Charles resignation from the State Senate. Like Mayor Sharpe James of Newark and Mayor Nick Sacco of North Bergen, Cunningham wanted to keep the seat of Senate power in his city. To prevent this from happening, the Hudson County Democratic Organization ran L. Harvey Smith as their candidate. Smith thought he would be vindicated with the support of nine mayors, the governor and the HCDO machine behind him. But, like David slayed Goliath, Glenn destroyed Harvey and again the voice of the people was heard despite Smith's backstabbing. One day Glenn Cunningham asked Smith why he was blocking the designation of a black preacher to build houses on Martin Luther King Blvd. In front of his wife, Smith told the Mayor, "Get out of my face. You're nothing but a puss.y!" A week later the Mayor passed. Sandra Cunningham made it clear she didn't want L. Harvey Smith there (Mayor Cunningham's wake or funeral) She will never forget what he said. L. Harvey continued to antagonize the late mayor's staff after his passing. He sent notice firing Willie Flood, three times, took her back pay, and insurance check, but his affronts to the people of Jersey City did not stop there. At Ercel F. Webb Park he removed the late Mayor's plaque and put up two of his own, one as Council President and another as Acting Mayor. He grandstanded for the newspapers about helping displaced artists, and failed miserably, seeking historical designation for 110 and 111 First Street only after the landmark smoke stack was destroyed. He turned his back on Friends of the Loews, when they wouldn't obey his directives. He reversed his support on development of a Stop'n'Shop. He gave us a financial band-aid and calls it a bond deal. Smith has regularly offered false promises to citizenry to buy himself time and glory. Now that Glenn Cunningham is gone the HCDO doesn't need him, so DeGise and Gaughan support the malleable Councilman Healy while Smith takes his platform of lies to our unattended brothers and sisters in the Latin community, hoping that they might forget that his attacks against our beloved mayor hurt all of Jersey City, not just peo ple of color. You, Jersey City, handed Smith an overwhelming defeat in the general elections. You know Willie Flood is a Cunningham loyalist, and unlike the other candidates, has shown the capacity to bring people together and negotiate for the greater good of Jersey City, not for the bosses, or a power seeker like L. Harvey claiming this is his Jersey City. It is our Jersey City, and we will not be intimidated into voting for him. Smith will always doublecross and double-deal to get what is best for L. Harvey Smith. Let us not be fooled by his Bush-like tactics revising what we were there to witness, and confusing what we remember. As the prophetic words of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. remind us, "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." We cannot afford more of the same with L. Harvey Smith. Wishing blessings to all the citizens of Jersey City, these and others things are Humbly submitted, Rev. Edward Allen ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 8112 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 16:47:53 Subject: LOCAL WOMAN MAKES HISTORY - Smith Appoints First Black as Deputy Tax Assessor LOCAL WOMAN MAKES HISTORY Smith Appoints First Black as Deputy Tax Assessor ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harry Sack posted Message 8113 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 17:17:10 Subject: NJCU Poll Lipski supporters are saying Lipski is now in 2nd place behind Manzo. This poll is due to be released this week. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Totally wrong posted Message 8114 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 17:29:06 Subject: Re: NJCU Poll Real poll shows : Manzo 23 Smith 17 Healy 13 Flood 8 ...the rest don't count. : Lipski supporters are saying Lipski is now in 2nd place behind Manzo. This poll is due to be released this week. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sounds like BS to me posted Message 8115 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 17:40:55 Subject: On the web? Bull- - - - Um...first of all... go back to school and learn the English language. The word is they're... not their. They're means "they are".... their....is possessive. Now that we have engaged in a little intellectual banter, to the point at hand. If in fact there is a web address to go view these seemingly wide-spread photos....which no one seems to have seen for themselves...other than the few here who claim to have, then why not simply publish the web address here? No doubt Anthony will put it on his homepage to assure the widest dissemination. : One of Healy's neighbors took the pic's not Gerry McCann. : Aparently the neighbor was getting sick and tired of Healy doing this repeatedly. The neighbor has small kids. So the neighbor took the pic's. I saw the pic's. THeir real. Gerry McCann did ot show me the pic's. Seems there are quit a few peple with copies of the pic's. They are spreading over the internet like wild-fire. Don;t be suprised if you find a copy in your in box. : : : Did anybody ever see the photos ? Do they exist ? : : In the New York Times article, Healy admits that he was drunk and naked in the street. The article is on the web. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Gay boy in the Closet posted Message 8116 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 17:44:26 Subject: Re: Just what Jersey City needs right now Hmm... Drunk ... or in the closet.... which should I vote for? : There are some productive drunks out there. Maybe jerry is one of them. Besides we can sell city hall to a developer, and pocket the cash for the bar bill. : : Lets keep the bars open 24-7.Each day we can use a different bar in JC as our City Hall.This way it wont interfere with our drining.McCann can take pictures and keep notes on how its going.Astor Bar will be the main City Hall for the gang from hell. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pole Poll posted Message 8117 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 17:57:01 Subject: Re: NJCU Poll : Lipski supporters are saying Lipski is now in 2nd place behind Manzo. This poll is due to be released this week. I hope Tony Amiable is not asked to edit this poll. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Correction posted Message 8118 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 17:58:37 Subject: Re: NJCU Poll : Real poll shows : : Manzo 23 Lipski 20 Healy 13 Flood 8 ...the rest don't count. : : : Lipski supporters are saying Lipski is now in 2nd place behind Manzo. This poll is due to be released this week. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJCU Poll results posted Message 8119 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:00:20 Subject: Re: NJCU Poll : Real poll shows : : Manzo 23 Lipski 20 Healy 13 Flood 8 ...the rest don't count. : : : Lipski supporters are saying Lipski is now in 2nd place behind Manzo. This poll is due to be released this week. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tony Amabile the Fag posted Message 8120 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:03:06 Subject: Re: NJCU Poll Tony Amabile has adjusted the poll : Healy 99.9 % other .1 : : Lipski supporters are saying Lipski is now in 2nd place behind Manzo. This poll is due to be released this week. : I hope Tony Amiable is not asked to edit this poll. ***************** End Of Article ****************** u all posted Message 8121 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:10:04 Subject: Re: Healy naked pix see nj.com It says the address in HAHAHEALY.COM : Did anybody ever see the photos ? Do they exist ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** lumber jack posted Message 8122 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:16:31 Subject: Re: NJCU Poll : Lipski supporters are saying Lipski is now in 2nd place behind Manzo. This poll is due to be released this week. the only poll lipski is number two on is richard simmins. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHECK IT OUT posted Message 8123 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:20:06 Subject: WWW.HAHAHEALY.COM A SAD, 3RD RATE, BROKEN DOWN CANDIDATE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Shocked ? posted Message 8124 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:21:25 Subject: Just when you thought... you've seen it all! ***************** End Of Article ****************** havard 1 posted Message 8125 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:22:11 Subject: mccann for govenor gerry mccann for govenor its about time.the only true leader for the state. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City all of mankind posted Message 8126 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:25:34 Subject: Are you proud McCann? You have no values, no sense of freindship or family. no morals, no humane thoughts or feelings. How could you now walk the Streets of Jersey City or anywhere for that matter. I for one will be looking to catch up with you. I can't wait. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Freinds of Healy Human Decency posted Message 8127 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:28:58 Subject: Re: Are you proud McCann? : You have no values, no sense of freindship or family. no morals, no humane thoughts or feelings. How could you now walk the Streets of Jersey City or anywhere for that matter. I for one will be looking to catch up with you. I can't wait. What kind of person are you? Don't you have a wife & children, but I guess you already disgraced them and think nothing of this. Please leave us all alone. You don't have one freind in Jersy City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** havard1 posted Message 8128 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:30:19 Subject: Re: Are you proud McCann? : You have no values, no sense of freindship or family. no morals, no humane thoughts or feelings. How could you now walk the Streets of Jersey City or anywhere for that matter. I for one will be looking to catch up with you. I can't wait. very proud of him, you must be one of the do nothig cops he laid off when he was mayor, if you paid attention in school you would never have to worry about being laid off. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ale House Light Horse posted Message 8129 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:31:59 Subject: Re: Are you proud McCann? : : You have no values, no sense of freindship or family. no morals, no humane thoughts or feelings. How could you now walk the Streets of Jersey City or anywhere for that matter. I for one will be looking to catch up with you. I can't wait. : very proud of him, you must be one of the do nothig cops he laid off when he was mayor, if you paid attention in school you would never have to worry about being laid off. How many DWI's does McCann have? PS: I am not laid off. ***************** End Of Article ****************** nick.com posted Message 8130 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:35:28 Subject: Re: gerry was the best mayor : You have no values, no sense of freindship or family. no morals, no humane thoughts or feelings. How could you now walk the Streets of Jersey City or anywhere for that matter. I for one will be looking to catch up with you. I can't wait. gerry was the best mayor we ever had, and you know it, i think he would be a great govenor. plus we would not have to worry he likes girls. just ask your wife. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pretty Desperate posted Message 8131 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:36:32 Subject: The Healy Camp is Getting Wow! The Healy zombie's really like Gerry McCann. They can't say enough about him. Why don't you go out and campaign for Jerry Healy? Gerry McCann is not a candidate. : : You have no values, no sense of freindship or family. no morals, no humane thoughts or feelings. How could you now walk the Streets of Jersey City or anywhere for that matter. I for one will be looking to catch up with you. I can't wait. : What kind of person are you? Don't you have a wife & children, but I guess you already disgraced them and think nothing of this. Please leave us all alone. You don't have one freind in Jersy City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Got to Give Him Credit -Tony Gets the JOb Done posted Message 8132 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:38:57 Subject: Tony Amabile You know the 'jobs' I'am talking about. Eat enough sleeping pills at night and you can do anything without hesitating. : Tony Amabile has adjusted the poll : : Healy 99.9 % : other .1 : : : Lipski supporters are saying Lipski is now in 2nd place behind Manzo. This poll is due to be released this week. : : I hope Tony Amiable is not asked to edit this poll. ***************** End Of Article ****************** We Got Two Weeks TO Go posted Message 8133 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:43:02 Subject: Re: On the web? How Your Horses Knock it off with the lecturing. Your a F_cking Bore. As for the pics, we got two weeks to go so the pics will get released at the apropriate time. Anticipation! : Um...first of all... go back to school and learn the English language. The word is they're... not their. They're means "they are".... their....is possessive. Now that we have engaged in a little intellectual banter, to the point at hand. If in fact there is a web address to go view these seemingly wide-spread photos....which no one seems to have seen for themselves...other than the few here who claim to have, then why not simply publish the web address here? No doubt Anthony will put it on his homepage to assure the widest dissemination. : : One of Healy's neighbors took the pic's not Gerry McCann. : : Aparently the neighbor was getting sick and tired of Healy doing this repeatedly. The neighbor has small kids. So the neighbor took the pic's. I saw the pic's. THeir real. Gerry McCann did ot show me the pic's. Seems there are quit a few peple with copies of the pic's. They are spreading over the internet like wild-fire. Don;t be suprised if you find a copy in your in box. : : : : Did anybody ever see the photos ? Do they exist ? : : : In the New York Times article, Healy admits that he was drunk and naked in the street. The article is on the web. ***************** End Of Article ****************** True posted Message 8134 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:45:27 Subject: Funny But WAIT, JUST WAIT. MOTHER OF G_D! WHAT A PROFILE! : You are really funny!!! : : : One of Healy's neighbors took the pic's not Gerry McCann. : : Aparently the neighbor was getting sick and tired of Healy doing this repeatedly. The neighbor has small kids. So the neighbor took the pic's. I saw the pic's. THeir real. Gerry McCann did ot show me the pic's. Seems there are quit a few peple with copies of the pic's. They are spreading over the internet like wild-fire. Don;t be suprised if you find a copy in your in box. : : : : Did anybody ever see the photos ? Do they exist ? : : : In the New York Times article, Healy admits that he was drunk and naked in the street. The article is on the web. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THAT'S OVER THE TOP! posted Message 8135 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:47:18 Subject: Re: Naked Photos of Joe Doria IS JOE AUDITIONING FOR THE JERRY SPRINGER SHOW? YOU WOULD NEED TO HOLD ON TO YOUR SEAT FOR THAT ONE! : These are worse than Healy's. Even Jerry McCann had to throw up and wouldn't dare use them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THROW YOUR VOTE TO HARVEY posted Message 8136 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:50:40 Subject: voTE FOR THE WITCH? HE'LL BE CRUSHED IF HIS VOTE TOTAL IS LESS THAN 100. : Hmm... Drunk ... or in the closet.... which should I vote for? : : There are some productive drunks out there. Maybe jerry is one of them. Besides we can sell city hall to a developer, and pocket the cash for the bar bill. : : : Lets keep the bars open 24-7.Each day we can use a different bar in JC as our City Hall.This way it wont interfere with our drining.McCann can take pictures and keep notes on how its going.Astor Bar will be the main City Hall for the gang from hell. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FOR MANZO posted Message 8137 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 18:55:09 Subject: NEWS FLASH- BILL O'DEA DUPUTY MAYOR LOOK FORWARD TO FREEHOLDER BILL O'DEA BEING NAMED AS A DEPUTY MAYOR IN THE MANZO ADMINISTRATION. BILL O'DEA'S LEADERSHIP WILL BRING INTEGRITY BACK TO COUNTY GOVERNMENT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 8138 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:09:45 Subject: Yikes !!! Roxanne is a nice person ... but Deputy Tax Assessor ? Give me a break !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** havard1 posted Message 8139 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:12:09 Subject: Re: NEWS FLASH- BILL O'DEA DUPUTY MAYOR : LOOK FORWARD TO FREEHOLDER BILL O'DEA BEING NAMED AS A DEPUTY MAYOR IN THE MANZO ADMINISTRATION. : BILL O'DEA'S LEADERSHIP WILL BRING INTEGRITY BACK TO COUNTY GOVERNMENT. atleast we know he can read and write, unlike draton ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homophobes for Healy Protest! posted Message 8140 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:14:09 Subject: Re: gerry was the best mayor : : You have no values, no sense of freindship or family. no morals, no humane thoughts or feelings. How could you now walk the Streets of Jersey City or anywhere for that matter. I for one will be looking to catch up with you. I can't wait. : gerry was the best mayor we ever had, and you know it, i think he would be a great govenor. plus we would not have to worry he likes girls. just ask your wife. This ain't fair. Our one any only campaign issue that Healy was running on was that Manzo is gay, now we've been told to tone down the gay stuff by the boss, and to attack McCann, but McCann is not gay. All of us Healy Homophobes know that. What can we do? Were confused. How can we get out of the closet? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 8141 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:14:24 Subject: Blather on Reverend Ed As if anybody but your racist pals even take your letters seriously. Crawl back in your hole c_ockroach. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DeGise to review all the no-bid contracts given to his golfing buddies posted Message 8142 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:20:34 Subject: First Order of the day : : LOOK FORWARD TO FREEHOLDER BILL O'DEA BEING NAMED AS A DEPUTY MAYOR IN THE MANZO ADMINISTRATION. : : BILL O'DEA'S LEADERSHIP WILL BRING INTEGRITY BACK TO COUNTY GOVERNMENT. : atleast we know he can read and write, unlike draton And.. he can give Tom DeGise something to do besides playing golf, hey Tommy, its getting cold anyway. He can ask Degise to tally all of the no-bid contracts he has given out. Maybe we can get legislation passed to compel Degise to give back all that cash before he leaves office on 11/3? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 8143 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:26:52 Subject: Who posted HaHaHealy.com? A Site is Online -- HaHaHealy.com -- with a picture of an unconscious nude man seated on stone steps. Text from last week's New York Times article accompanies the graphic. Does anyone know who posted the Site? Below is the registration information. The phone number does not work. The zip code is for Jersey City, but the city is given as Hacketstown. There's no such street address there according to Yahoo maps. Registration Information Domain Name.......... hahahealy.com Creation Date........ 2004-10-13 Registration Date.... 2004-10-13 Expiry Date.......... 2005-10-13 Organisation Name.... Jon Cramwell Organisation Address. 332 Johnson Street Organisation Address. Organisation Address. Hacketstown Organisation Address. 07305 Organisation Address. NJ Organisation Address. UNITED STATES Admin Name........... Jon Cramwell Admin Address........ 332 Johnson Street Admin Address........ Admin Address........ Hacketstown Admin Address........ 07305 Admin Address........ NJ Admin Address........ UNITED STATES Admin Email.......... jcramwell@hotmail.com Admin Phone.......... +1.2016884699 Admin Fax............ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Time for a new poll posted Message 8144 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:27:16 Subject: Tony Amabile Last week according to Tony Amable's poll Jerry healy gained 10 points on Lou Manzo AFTER the NY Times story broke about his nude escapades in his backyard. Tony, Maybe you should have Jerry pose in the buff again? The latest NJCU poll has Manzo 23 points to Healy's 13. You could have a fund raiser where Jerry autographing his latest nude picture and with enough press coverage he could make back the 1o points he's behind to Manzo. Who knows, maybe Playboy would be interested. Tony, Cash, cash, cash. $$$$$$ Get Jerry to the Photographer tomorrow morning first thing! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Burnt Reynolds posted Message 8145 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:29:35 Subject: Hey Jerry! If it'll help . . . I'll lend you my towel! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Healy Pic - On The Web! posted Message 8146 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:30:43 Subject: That's the Real Deal : A Site is Online -- HaHaHealy.com -- with a picture of an unconscious nude man seated on stone steps. Text from last week's New York Times article accompanies the graphic. : Does anyone know who posted the Site? : Below is the registration information. The phone number does not work. The zip code is for Jersey City, but the city is given as Hacketstown. There's no such street address there according to Yahoo maps. : Registration Information : Domain Name.......... hahahealy.com : Creation Date........ 2004-10-13 : Registration Date.... 2004-10-13 : Expiry Date.......... 2005-10-13 : Organisation Name.... Jon Cramwell : Organisation Address. 332 Johnson Street : Organisation Address. : Organisation Address. Hacketstown : Organisation Address. 07305 : Organisation Address. NJ : Organisation Address. UNITED STATES : Admin Name........... Jon Cramwell : Admin Address........ 332 Johnson Street : Admin Address........ : Admin Address........ Hacketstown : Admin Address........ 07305 : Admin Address........ NJ : Admin Address........ UNITED STATES : Admin Email.......... jcramwell@hotmail.com : Admin Phone.......... +1.2016884699 : Admin Fax............ ***************** End Of Article ****************** His John Henry is in Sad Shape posted Message 8147 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:32:14 Subject: Re: Hey Jerry! If it'll help . . . Wow! For no other reason but to hide that sorry dip stick. Enough already. : I'll lend you my towel! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Check Out HAHAHEALY.COM posted Message 8148 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:37:06 Subject: Re: On the web? BS?- - - - : Um...first of all... go back to school and learn the English language. The word is they're... not their. They're means "they are".... their....is possessive. Now that we have engaged in a little intellectual banter, to the point at hand. If in fact there is a web address to go view these seemingly wide-spread photos....which no one seems to have seen for themselves...other than the few here who claim to have, then why not simply publish the web address here? No doubt Anthony will put it on his homepage to assure the widest dissemination. Hey! You want the web adress? you got it! : : One of Healy's neighbors took the pic's not Gerry McCann. : : Aparently the neighbor was getting sick and tired of Healy doing this repeatedly. The neighbor has small kids. So the neighbor took the pic's. I saw the pic's. THeir real. Gerry McCann did ot show me the pic's. Seems there are quit a few peple with copies of the pic's. They are spreading over the internet like wild-fire. Don;t be suprised if you find a copy in your in box. : : : : Did anybody ever see the photos ? Do they exist ? : : : In the New York Times article, Healy admits that he was drunk and naked in the street. The article is on the web. ***************** End Of Article ****************** don't know posted Message 8149 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:38:24 Subject: Re: Who posted HaHaHealy.com? I don't know who posted the site but it is funny. Now we all know why he drinks! HA HA Healy. : A Site is Online -- HaHaHealy.com -- with a picture of an unconscious nude man seated on stone steps. Text from last week's New York Times article accompanies the graphic. : Does anyone know who posted the Site? : Below is the registration information. The phone number does not work. The zip code is for Jersey City, but the city is given as Hacketstown. There's no such street address there according to Yahoo maps. : Registration Information : Domain Name.......... hahahealy.com : Creation Date........ 2004-10-13 : Registration Date.... 2004-10-13 : Expiry Date.......... 2005-10-13 : Organisation Name.... Jon Cramwell : Organisation Address. 332 Johnson Street : Organisation Address. : Organisation Address. Hacketstown : Organisation Address. 07305 : Organisation Address. NJ : Organisation Address. UNITED STATES : Admin Name........... Jon Cramwell : Admin Address........ 332 Johnson Street : Admin Address........ : Admin Address........ Hacketstown : Admin Address........ 07305 : Admin Address........ NJ : Admin Address........ UNITED STATES : Admin Email.......... jcramwell@hotmail.com : Admin Phone.......... +1.2016884699 : Admin Fax............ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Is that Degise on the left and Gaughan on the right? posted Message 8150 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 19:40:21 Subject: Re: Gaughan and Degise secret weapon on 11/2 for Healy? Can you confirm if that's degise on the left and gaughan on the right? : Gaughan and Degise plan to unleash the magnetotorq. This advanced technology will pull the Healy supporters out of the bars and into the polling locations. : : Sires And Sacco may stand by these two.Menendez will pute the arm on the rest of the inside boys for Manzo.It looks like it will be Odea as County Executive.Stack likes the idea along with Doria. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dems Xpress posted Message 8151 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 20:08:26 Subject: NO MORE HEALY AND MANZO Please NOV. 2 just vote fpr PRIDE IN J.C. VOTE LISPKI ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 8152 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 20:14:54 Subject: GET NJ is not involved with HaHaHealy.com GET NJ is not involved with HaHaHealy.com The Web Site address is being distributed by e-mail. GET NJ is not doing that. The Web Site address is posted on other Message Boards. I understand that people involved with Jersey City politics were viewing HaHaHealy.com this afternoon, before the address was posted Online. I only learned about the Site maybe an hour and a half ago. Many, many people are aware of HaHaHealy.com. Trying to stop people from talking about the Site here is not realistic. In any event, limiting freedom of speech won't make HaHahealy.com disappear. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sorry HCDO, You Can't Stop HaHaHealy.com posted Message 8153 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 20:40:32 Subject: Let Free Speech Reign! This is a classic case of the dark side trying to stop freedom of speech. Maybe that 'Ethics' guy the county hired should consul the county exec. : GET NJ is not involved with HaHaHealy.com : The Web Site address is being distributed by e-mail. GET NJ is not doing that. : The Web Site address is posted on other Message Boards. : I understand that people involved with Jersey City politics were viewing HaHaHealy.com this afternoon, before the address was posted Online. : I only learned about the Site maybe an hour and a half ago. : Many, many people are aware of HaHaHealy.com. Trying to stop people from talking about the Site here is not realistic. In any event, limiting freedom of speech won't make HaHahealy.com disappear. ***************** End Of Article ****************** And spell, unlike you. posted Message 8154 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 20:42:46 Subject: Re: NEWS FLASH- BILL O'DEA DUPUTY MAYOR : : LOOK FORWARD TO FREEHOLDER BILL O'DEA BEING NAMED AS A DEPUTY MAYOR IN THE MANZO ADMINISTRATION. : : BILL O'DEA'S LEADERSHIP WILL BRING INTEGRITY BACK TO COUNTY GOVERNMENT. : atleast we know he can read and write, unlike draton ***************** End Of Article ****************** It's using his influence that bothers me posted Message 8155 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 20:46:21 Subject: Who cares if Manzo is gay? Rumor has it that Lou Manzo used his influence with Cunningham and his power as Assemblyman to land his alleged boyfriend Dan McMann a no show job in the Jersey City Health Dep't. If you care that he's gay, youre a homophobe. But, if you care that he used his influence to get a very close 'friend' a job he doesn't show up to...or if you care that this guy cost the city taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars for fines from the state for reports he failed to submit.....or if you care that he cost you about $70 for his salary which McMann was paid even when McMann was in a drug treatment facility in florida...If you care about those things, youre just an informed voter who doesn't want your taxdollar spent on ineffeciencies in gov't. You don't want another McGreeveyesque scandal smudging the state of NJ and the place where we live. Manzo come clean! What's your deal? Is Dan McMann your Colin Cipel or not? Enquiring minds want to know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Picture Worth 1000 Words posted Message 8155 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 20:46:21 Subject: Jon Cramwell Did - God Bless Him : I don't know who posted the site but it is funny. Now we all know why he drinks! HA HA Healy. : : A Site is Online -- HaHaHealy.com -- with a picture of an unconscious nude man seated on stone steps. Text from last week's New York Times article accompanies the graphic. : : Does anyone know who posted the Site? : : Below is the registration information. The phone number does not work. The zip code is for Jersey City, but the city is given as Hacketstown. There's no such street address there according to Yahoo maps. : : Registration Information : : Domain Name.......... hahahealy.com : : Creation Date........ 2004-10-13 : : Registration Date.... 2004-10-13 : : Expiry Date.......... 2005-10-13 : : Organisation Name.... Jon Cramwell : : Organisation Address. 332 Johnson Street : : Organisation Address. : : Organisation Address. Hacketstown : : Organisation Address. 07305 : : Organisation Address. NJ : : Organisation Address. UNITED STATES : : Admin Name........... Jon Cramwell : : Admin Address........ 332 Johnson Street : : Admin Address........ : : Admin Address........ Hacketstown : : Admin Address........ 07305 : : Admin Address........ NJ : : Admin Address........ UNITED STATES : : Admin Email.......... jcramwell@hotmail.com : : Admin Phone.......... +1.2016884699 : : Admin Fax............ ***************** End Of Article ****************** the naked truth posted Message 8156 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 20:46:41 Subject: Re: Let Free Speech Reign! Healy the drunk. So let's guess, when healy is on a binge DeGise and Gaughan will run the city. No wonder they couldn't get Menendez to endorse this clown. This is a classic case of the dark side trying to stop freedom of speech. Maybe that 'Ethics' guy the county hired should consul the county exec. : : GET NJ is not involved with HaHaHealy.com : : The Web Site address is being distributed by e-mail. GET NJ is not doing that. : : The Web Site address is posted on other Message Boards. : : I understand that people involved with Jersey City politics were viewing HaHaHealy.com this afternoon, before the address was posted Online. : : I only learned about the Site maybe an hour and a half ago. : : Many, many people are aware of HaHaHealy.com. Trying to stop people from talking about the Site here is not realistic. In any event, limiting freedom of speech won't make HaHahealy.com disappear. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say what! posted Message 8157 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 20:49:39 Subject: Re: NO MORE HEALY AND MANZO Pass that crack pipe this way when you're done. Thanks. : Please NOV. 2 just vote fpr PRIDE IN J.C. VOTE LISPKI ***************** End Of Article ****************** Naked Truth ..... Hurts !! HA HA HEALY posted Message 8158 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 20:58:26 Subject: Great Web Site !!! : This is a classic case of the dark side trying to stop freedom of speech. Maybe that 'Ethics' guy the county hired should consul the county exec. : : GET NJ is not involved with HaHaHealy.com : : The Web Site address is being distributed by e-mail. GET NJ is not doing that. : : The Web Site address is posted on other Message Boards. : : I understand that people involved with Jersey City politics were viewing HaHaHealy.com this afternoon, before the address was posted Online. : : I only learned about the Site maybe an hour and a half ago. : : Many, many people are aware of HaHaHealy.com. Trying to stop people from talking about the Site here is not realistic. In any event, limiting freedom of speech won't make HaHahealy.com disappear. ***************** End Of Article ****************** It's using his influence that bothers me posted Message 8159 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 21:00:46 Subject: Who cares if Manzo is gay? Rumor has it that Lou Manzo used his influence with Cunningham and his power as Assemblyman to land his alleged boyfriend Dan McMann a no show job in the Jersey City Health Dep't. If you care that he's gay, youre a homophobe. But, if you care that he used his influence to get a very close 'friend' a job he doesn't show up to...or if you care that this guy cost the city taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars for fines from the state for reports he failed to submit.....or if you care that he cost you about $70 for his salary which McMann was paid even when McMann was in a drug treatment facility in florida...If you care about those things, youre just an informed voter who doesn't want your taxdollar spent on ineffeciencies in gov't. You don't want another McGreeveyesque scandal smudging the state of NJ and the place where we live. Manzo come clean! What's your deal? Is Dan McMann your Colin Cipel or not? Enquiring minds want to know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who is Jon Cramwell? posted Message 8160 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 21:19:56 Subject: Re: WWW.HAHAHEALY.COM : A SAD, 3RD RATE, BROKEN DOWN FOOL. Notice the zip code is a Jersey City zip but the city is "Hacketstown" (you'd thought he would have spelled that right if he really lived there). Domain Name.......... hahahealy.com Creation Date........ 2004-10-13 Registration Date.... 2004-10-13 Expiry Date.......... 2005-10-13 Organisation Name.... Jon Cramwell Organisation Address. 332 Johnson Street Organisation Address. Organisation Address. Hacketstown Organisation Address. 07305 Organisation Address. NJ Organisation Address. UNITED STATES Admin Name........... Jon Cramwell Admin Address........ 332 Johnson Street Admin Address........ Admin Address........ Hacketstown Admin Address........ 07305 Admin Address........ NJ Admin Address........ UNITED STATES Admin Email.......... jcramwell@hotmail.com Admin Phone.......... +1.2016884699 Admin Fax............ ***************** End Of Article ****************** CURIOUS posted Message 8161 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 21:23:52 Subject: IS DAN MCMANN MANZO'S BOYFRIEND IF THIS IS TRUE, TAXPAYERS SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT A MANZO ADMINISTRATION. HOW MANY NO-SHOW JOBS WILL HE AWARD TO HIS FRIENDS? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lawyer posted Message 8162 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 21:30:21 Subject: Freedom of Speech oh really? Anthony, Now you crow Freedom of speech after you censor your website when posting not to your liking are taken down? It won't be long now that you will be using your own link "FIND A LAWYER.com" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fraud posted Message 8163 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 21:35:32 Subject: Re: Jon Cramwell is a fraud It's a fake name and contact information, however Yahoo will be cooperating with authorities to track down the name & contact. They might not pull the site down but the heat is on! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Any bets on who's behind this? posted Message 8164 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 21:49:52 Subject: Re: Jon Cramwell is a fraud Only one person comes to mind that is low enough scum to be behind this. Just when you think that we've hit rock bottom. : It's a fake name and contact information, however Yahoo will be cooperating with authorities to track down the name & contact. : They might not pull the site down but the heat is on! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who Cares? posted Message 8165 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 22:14:19 Subject: No He's Your BOYFRIEND WHat do you have a crush on Lou? You must be a Healy zombie because that's all they can say, 'Lou Manzo is gay'. Well, keep up the good work because there are probably 3,000 voters who are gay that will be voting for mayor, and Lou will gladly take their vote. Why don't you take up a collection and buy Jerry some clothes. : IF THIS IS TRUE, TAXPAYERS SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT A MANZO ADMINISTRATION. HOW MANY NO-SHOW JOBS WILL HE AWARD TO HIS FRIENDS? ***************** End Of Article ****************** We Don't Like the Truth posted Message 8166 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 22:16:50 Subject: healy Gestapo on the Move Ban free speech, new healy platform. : It's a fake name and contact information, however Yahoo will be cooperating with authorities to track down the name & contact. : They might not pull the site down but the heat is on! ***************** End Of Article ****************** POLL WATCHER posted Message 8167 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 22:54:06 Subject: Who cares if LIPSKI is going to win? We do! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Goons Are Coming After You posted Message 8168 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 23:36:37 Subject: Getnj.com Looks like the healy people blame you for hahahealy.com. They have to strike out at somebody. Its going to be hard to overcome. What can they do? Remove the NY Times article? He is clearly sitting on his stoop and someone popped a picture. Don't think they can do anything about it. Its pretty damning evidence don't you think? Could end the Healy bid. Now were down to 10? : Anthony, : Now you crow Freedom of speech after you censor your website when posting not to your liking are taken down? : It won't be long now that you will be using your own link "FIND A LAWYER.com" ***************** End Of Article ****************** WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU ANTHONY posted Message 8169 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 23:36:52 Subject: WE DON'T TRUST YOU ANTHONY. YOU'RE A PARTISAN. : GET NJ is not involved with HaHaHealy.com : The Web Site address is being distributed by e-mail. GET NJ is not doing that. : The Web Site address is posted on other Message Boards. : I understand that people involved with Jersey City politics were viewing HaHaHealy.com this afternoon, before the address was posted Online. : I only learned about the Site maybe an hour and a half ago. : Many, many people are aware of HaHaHealy.com. Trying to stop people from talking about the Site here is not realistic. In any event, limiting freedom of speech won't make HaHahealy.com disappear. ***************** End Of Article ****************** gary the rat posted Message 8170 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 23:42:00 Subject: who is this lipski chic : We do! im new to jersey city, whats a lipski? ***************** End Of Article ****************** gary the rat posted Message 8171 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 23:43:54 Subject: who is this lipski chic : We do! im new to jersey city, whats a lipski? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gone with the Wind posted Message 8172 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 19, 2004 at 23:47:40 Subject: Jersey City infested with Scum This sick message board that tries to pass for some kind of public service only underscores the sick minds of those who seek to run our city. The deviants who get jobs for their unqualified homosexual boyfriends, the candidates who have records and their booking photos are widely circulated, the judge who has enemies vile enough (most likely McManzo) who would snap despicable pictures and then circulate them...all these sick minds believe they are the kind of people who should run our city. People...we are in trouble no matter who wins this election. I suggest we get to work finding a replacement to run in the Spring so perhaps we can restore some of the respect we once had in the greater political circles of this state, region and nation. I have no doubt that the people of Jersey City are ready for "new blood" just as they were the last time this vile bunch of clowns attempted to pick from the bones of a political carcus named McCann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gee, since you feel that way.... posted Message 8173 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 00:00:02 Subject: Re: Jersey City infested with Scum :::MOVE! I hear Falluja is nice this time of year and property is going cheap. : This sick message board that tries to pass for some kind of public service only underscores the sick minds of those who seek to run our city. The deviants who get jobs for their unqualified homosexual boyfriends, the candidates who have records and their booking photos are widely circulated, the judge who has enemies vile enough (most likely McManzo) who would snap despicable pictures and then circulate them...all these sick minds believe they are the kind of people who should run our city. People...we are in trouble no matter who wins this election. I suggest we get to work finding a replacement to run in the Spring so perhaps we can restore some of the respect we once had in the greater political circles of this state, region and nation. I have no doubt that the people of Jersey City are ready for "new blood" just as they were the last time this vile bunch of clowns attempted to pick from the bones of a political carcus named McCann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 'cause you can't take the heat posted Message 8174 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 00:06:44 Subject: Typical Manzo Spin Each time the Manzo campaign is asked a direct question about this freaky situation, they spin the heat in the opposite direction. My post begged "Who cares if Manzo is gay?" Can't you read simple English? This is not a question of sexuality, it is a question of whether or not Lou Manzo used his influence to get his alleged boyfriend a no - show job in the city and sustain him in it even after he failed to do that job, cost the city thousands in fines and continued to submit time worked even when he was in a drug rehab in florida. On the subject of Healy... when asked by the NY Times about the pictures that your campaign is prancing around with, Healy answered the question. He answered the question as it applied to him. He did not spin the heat back to your campaign who is responsible for being on this man's private property, making noise, bringing him outside to where you took an unsuspecting picture of him from the bushes of his private home. Instead, Healy took responsiblilty and answered. This practice of answering direct questions is something the Manzo campaign is incapable of doing. This only leads the taxpayers to believe one thing...That the rumors must be true and that a Manzo administration will be full of no show dead beat freinds of Lou. The only thing they will accomplish is nepotism. If you don't want us to believe the rumors, fess up. Tell the truth. Did Lou get this man a noshow job and defend him even when he failed miserably? ANSWER THE QUESTION. ANSWER THE QUESTION : WHat do you have a crush on Lou? You must be a Healy zombie because that's all they can say, 'Lou Manzo is gay'. Well, keep up the good work because there are probably 3,000 voters who are gay that will be voting for mayor, and Lou will gladly take their vote. : Why don't you take up a collection and buy Jerry some clothes. : : : IF THIS IS TRUE, TAXPAYERS SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT A MANZO ADMINISTRATION. HOW MANY NO-SHOW JOBS WILL HE AWARD TO HIS FRIENDS? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy Closet Supporter posted Message 8175 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 00:12:25 Subject: You Are the Scum You colors come right through. The homo thing, again and againg and again! Its when Healy and his crew leave is when things will get better in JC. : This sick message board that tries to pass for some kind of public service only underscores the sick minds of those who seek to run our city. The deviants who get jobs for their unqualified homosexual boyfriends, the candidates who have records and their booking photos are widely circulated, the judge who has enemies vile enough (most likely McManzo) who would snap despicable pictures and then circulate them...all these sick minds believe they are the kind of people who should run our city. People...we are in trouble no matter who wins this election. I suggest we get to work finding a replacement to run in the Spring so perhaps we can restore some of the respect we once had in the greater political circles of this state, region and nation. I have no doubt that the people of Jersey City are ready for "new blood" just as they were the last time this vile bunch of clowns attempted to pick from the bones of a political carcus named McCann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm waiting........... posted Message 8176 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 00:26:32 Subject: ANSWER THE QUESTION Wheels still spinning....Can't come up with a good spin? ANSWER THE QUESTION. : Each time the Manzo campaign is asked a direct question about this freaky situation, they spin the heat in the opposite direction. : My post begged "Who cares if Manzo is gay?" Can't you read simple English? : This is not a question of sexuality, it is a question of whether or not Lou Manzo used his influence to get his alleged boyfriend a no - show job in the city and sustain him in it even after he failed to do that job, cost the city thousands in fines and continued to submit time worked even when he was in a drug rehab in florida. : On the subject of Healy... when asked by the NY Times about the pictures that your campaign is prancing around with, Healy answered the question. He answered the question as it applied to him. He did not spin the heat back to your campaign who is responsible for being on this man's private property, making noise, bringing him outside to where you took an unsuspecting picture of him from the bushes of his private home. Instead, Healy took responsiblilty and answered. : This practice of answering direct questions is something the Manzo campaign is incapable of doing. This only leads the taxpayers to believe one thing...That the rumors must be true and that a Manzo administration will be full of no show dead beat freinds of Lou. The only thing they will accomplish is nepotism. : If you don't want us to believe the rumors, fess up. Tell the truth. Did Lou get this man a noshow job and defend him even when he failed miserably? : ANSWER THE QUESTION. : ANSWER THE QUESTION : : : WHat do you have a crush on Lou? You must be a Healy zombie because that's all they can say, 'Lou Manzo is gay'. Well, keep up the good work because there are probably 3,000 voters who are gay that will be voting for mayor, and Lou will gladly take their vote. : : Why don't you take up a collection and buy Jerry some clothes. : : : : : IF THIS IS TRUE, TAXPAYERS SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT A MANZO ADMINISTRATION. HOW MANY NO-SHOW JOBS WILL HE AWARD TO HIS FRIENDS? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Swift Irish Americans for Truth posted Message 8177 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 00:38:33 Subject: LOCAL CONVICT MAKES HISTORY - Manzo appoints first Irish-American-Sellout Convict Womanizer to Run Smear Campaign Congratulations Mr. McCann. You make us proud! ***************** End Of Article ****************** John Russ. posted Message 8178 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 00:45:57 Subject: www.manzoformayor.com How come Que@r Eye for the Straight Guy comes up when you type in www.manzoformayor.com ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** wrong posted Message 8179 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 00:46:57 Subject: Re: You Are the Scum Its the homo thing. Its the drunk judge thing. Its the convict councilman thing. Its the sleezy shutterbugs thing. Its the convict former mayor thing. Its the rumor mongering web that incites all of it...thing. Its the whole f-cking sleazy smear campaign from all sides thing. You can't start it and think you can stop it because its become inconvenient. : You colors come right through. The homo thing, again and againg and again! : Its when Healy and his crew leave is when things will get better in JC. : : : This sick message board that tries to pass for some kind of public service only underscores the sick minds of those who seek to run our city. The deviants who get jobs for their unqualified homosexual boyfriends, the candidates who have records and their booking photos are widely circulated, the judge who has enemies vile enough (most likely McManzo) who would snap despicable pictures and then circulate them...all these sick minds believe they are the kind of people who should run our city. People...we are in trouble no matter who wins this election. I suggest we get to work finding a replacement to run in the Spring so perhaps we can restore some of the respect we once had in the greater political circles of this state, region and nation. I have no doubt that the people of Jersey City are ready for "new blood" just as they were the last time this vile bunch of clowns attempted to pick from the bones of a political carcus named McCann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Like the tide posted Message 8180 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 00:49:18 Subject: McManzo website McManzo's Healy picture website is having a backlash on Screwy Louie's campaign. Louie's nervous already about McCann's antics now he's walking on eggshells as his Danny relationship and mental stability issue will final sink him. The Chief is not finished with his McManzo Mailers ***************** End Of Article ****************** Did he give his alleged boyfriend a noshow job? posted Message 8181 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 00:56:56 Subject: Who cares if Manzo is gay? Rumor has it that Lou Manzo used his influence with Cunningham and his power as Assemblyman to land his alleged boyfriend Dan McMann a no show job in the Jersey City Health Dep't. If you care that he's gay, youre a homophobe. But, if you care that he used his influence to get a very close 'friend' a job he doesn't show up to...or if you care that this guy cost the city taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars for fines from the state for reports he failed to submit.....or if you care that he cost you about $70,000 for his salary which McMann was paid even when McMann was in a drug treatment facility in florida...If you care about those things, youre just an informed voter who doesn't want your taxdollar spent on ineffeciencies in gov't. You don't want another McGreeveyesque scandal smudging the state of NJ and the place where we live. Manzo come clean! What's your deal? Is Dan McMann your Colin Cipel or not? Enquiring minds want to know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Naked Truth posted Message 8182 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 06:40:45 Subject: Re: www.manzoformayor.com :::A month ago or less if you typed in that address, it linked you to Healy's website. put in www.smithformayor.com (or www.buonocoreformayor.com) you will get Healy's webpage. How did this happen? Obvious. The highly principaled Team Healy purchased these domain names knowing that most people would naturally type manzo/smith/buonocore for mayor to find a website. This is this racist homophobic group's pitiful attempt at humor. So you know what? Anything this disgusting group gets thrown at them is well deserved. If you go back and look at when all the $hit started you will see it was the highly principaled Team Healy that fired the first volley. : How come Que@r Eye for the Straight Guy comes up when you type in www.manzoformayor.com ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ya know what posted Message 8183 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 06:45:28 Subject: Re: McManzo website ::I am overjoyed that the Chief got tossed. Can you imagine what kind of mayor this piece of slag would be if this is his reaction for his being bounced off a ballot? His actions are now showing him to be petty and mentally unstable. A mind full of hate and an overwhelming desire for revenge. Thank God he won't be mayor. : McManzo's Healy picture website is having a backlash on Screwy Louie's campaign. : Louie's nervous already about McCann's antics now he's walking on eggshells as his Danny relationship and mental stability issue will final sink him. : The Chief is not finished with his McManzo Mailers ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well, let's go to the video tape.... posted Message 8184 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 06:49:55 Subject: Re: Who cares if Manzo is gay? :::Who's signature is on this guy's paperwork? It would seem to me that whoever that is would be the party ultimately responsible. If someone is that bad at their job, transfer them somewhere else or fire them. I've worked for places where the owner's son was part of a layoff. : Rumor has it that Lou Manzo used his influence with Cunningham and his power as Assemblyman to land his alleged boyfriend Dan McMann a no show job in the Jersey City Health Dep't. : If you care that he's gay, youre a homophobe. : But, if you care that he used his influence to get a very close 'friend' a job he doesn't show up to...or if you care that this guy cost the city taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars for fines from the state for reports he failed to submit.....or if you care that he cost you about $70,000 for his salary which McMann was paid even when McMann was in a drug treatment facility in florida...If you care about those things, youre just an informed voter who doesn't want your taxdollar spent on ineffeciencies in gov't. You don't want another McGreeveyesque scandal smudging the state of NJ and the place where we live. : Manzo come clean! What's your deal? : Is Dan McMann your Colin Cipel or not? : Enquiring minds want to know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nice mouth posted Message 8185 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 06:57:35 Subject: Re: Blather on Reverend Ed :::If you had eyes to see - you would know your GODS are homophobic racists. But we know you want to keep your $70K job Canoli. Cause that is all it is to you a job. So while this guy is crawling back into his hole, move over so he has room to fit. : As if anybody but your racist pals even take your letters seriously. : Crawl back in your hole c_ockroach. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Best For last posted Message 8186 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 07:26:00 Subject: McCann saving best for last on Jerry Healy Healy cannot survive this one according to McCann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Xanadu Money posted Message 8187 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 07:42:27 Subject: Menendez+Kenny=Money for Lou Manzo Glenn Cunningham was right.These two guys are "BAd News".Do the right thing Ward F.Its payback time for Porky Pig. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaynor Poll posted Message 8188 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 07:55:43 Subject: Straight from Avon-By-The-Sea 1-Manzo---2-Healy---3-Smith---4-Flood----5-Lipski---Then all the others. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WARD F NEWS posted Message 8189 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 08:05:27 Subject: JERSEY CITY IS TIME TO.... STOP MENENDEZ ,THE NEW MCGREEVE MR MCMANZO WITH NEW BOYFRIEND THE MAYOR BRIAN ALLTHEWAY STACK ASK BRIAN WIFE .......MENENDEZ LOVE LOU NOW ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tell All posted Message 8190 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 08:29:57 Subject: Is there anything else we should know? Mr Healy before McCann exposes all the other details.This is sure a heavy load to bare. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The endorsement posted Message 8191 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 08:34:43 Subject: Doria endorses Manzo to please Menendez & Kenny The HCDO Machine has spoken.Ward F takes it on the chin again.Harvey Smith to get some goodies from Menendez for being a good boy for the machine. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Murder-101 posted Message 8192 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 09:08:59 Subject: Another murder in JC yesterday Acting Mayor Harvey Smith, How are you doing? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good and Bad posted Message 8193 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 09:17:39 Subject: DeGise and Gaughan-Yes-Menendez &Kenny -No Jersey City first is the only way to go. ***************** End Of Article ****************** John Russ posted Message 8194 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 09:18:43 Subject: The only weight Doria carries is his own... and he can't even do that up and down a staircase. Chiappone will bury the fat slob. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LooneyLou posted Message 8195 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 09:24:17 Subject: Re: McManzo website/Naked picture Your a genius! Worrying about mailers by a former canidate when Manzo running aroung taking pictures of naked men. But, then again, he is probaly use to it, being involved with Danny. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LooneyLou posted Message 8196 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 09:28:42 Subject: Cry Baby Manzo I guess Lou Manzo has nothing else to do, with Danny out of town. Here is an alleged above board individual claiming he wants to keep politics out of the PD when , he accepted a one thousand dollar check from Cory Short in return for the Chiefs position. Has his Chief of Staff Jerry McScam, telling cops he is going to fired them and taking pictures of nude men. Now that sounds like someone who deserves to be Mayor. RIGHT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cory still crying posted Message 8197 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 09:41:49 Subject: Re: McManzo website Lou Manzo is still crying about the former Chief of Police, get a life. When the former Chief was supporting him Manzo promised him the Chiefs job. I guess he has nothing else to do, with Danny out of town. Look at the facts: Here is an alleged above board individual claiming he wants to keep politics out of the PD when, he accepted a one thousand dollar check from Cory Short to help make him a Captain and for another one thousand donation to be Chief of Police. I guess Cory doesn’t know about the long tides between Blake, Harrison and McCann. Sorry, Cory, no Chief’s job for you. Manzo then has his Chief of Staff Jerry McScam, telling cops he is going to fired them and taking pictures of nude men and breaking into people’s homes. Now that sounds like someone who deserves to be Mayor. RIGHT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wrong - It Goes For More than $1,000 posted Message 8198 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 09:44:15 Subject: Re: Cry Baby Manzo Your numbers are wrong, $1,000 for the Chiefs job? Doesn't sound like its right, maybe $20,000 will do it. Maybe your having trouble like Jerry Healy. Were still waiting to find out how many beers he can drink in one night. Is it 86, 68, 8, 6 ? wht's the number? : I guess Lou Manzo has nothing else to do, with Danny out of town. Here is an alleged above board individual claiming he wants to keep politics out of the PD when , he accepted a one thousand dollar check from Cory Short in return for the Chiefs position. Has his Chief of Staff Jerry McScam, telling cops he is going to fired them and taking pictures of nude men. Now that sounds like someone who deserves to be Mayor. RIGHT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** All Must Go posted Message 8199 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 09:46:57 Subject: Re: DeGise and Gaughan-No-Menendez &Kenny -No There all in this together. They all have to go. And... Jerry Healy needs to go to rehab. : Jersey City first is the only way to go. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Can't answer the question posted Message 8200 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 10:00:57 Subject: Manzo Spins Again Each time the Manzo campaign is asked a direct question about this freaky situation, they spin the heat in the opposite direction. Now they're casting blame to others for Manzo's contract in the city. If this noshow was fired or transferred heads would have rolled. People were politically harassed to protect this McMann character. Manzo camp still cant answer the question of whether or not Lou Manzo used his influence to get his alleged boyfriend a no - show job in the city and sustain him in it even after he failed to do that job, cost the city thousands in fines and continued to submit time worked even when he was in a drug rehab in florida. This practice of answering direct questions is something the Manzo campaign is incapable of doing. This only leads the taxpayers to believe one thing...That the rumors must be true and that a Manzo administration will be full of no show dead beat freinds of Lou. The only thing they will accomplish is nepotism. If you don't want us to believe the rumors, fess up. Tell the truth. Did Lou get this man a noshow job and defend him even when he failed miserably? ANSWER THE QUESTION. : :::Who's signature is on this guy's paperwork? It would seem to me that whoever that is would be the party ultimately responsible. If someone is that bad at their job, transfer them somewhere else or fire them. I've worked for places where the owner's son was part of a layoff. : : Rumor has it that Lou Manzo used his influence with Cunningham and his power as Assemblyman to land his alleged boyfriend Dan McMann a no show job in the Jersey City Health Dep't. : : If you care that he's gay, youre a homophobe. : : But, if you care that he used his influence to get a very close 'friend' a job he doesn't show up to...or if you care that this guy cost the city taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars for fines from the state for reports he failed to submit.....or if you care that he cost you about $70,000 for his salary which McMann was paid even when McMann was in a drug treatment facility in florida...If you care about those things, youre just an informed voter who doesn't want your taxdollar spent on ineffeciencies in gov't. You don't want another McGreeveyesque scandal smudging the state of NJ and the place where we live. : : Manzo come clean! What's your deal? : : Is Dan McMann your Colin Cipel or not? : : Enquiring minds want to know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Warchest posted Message 8201 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 10:14:04 Subject: 3 million dollar warchest for Menendez This is what happens when you are a honest Congressman.Xanandu money means nothing to Porky pig.Time for a change back to jersey city for our representative.menendez must be defeated for all our good. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rejection posted Message 8202 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 20, 2004 at 10:19:37 Subject: Healy rejects >"A parking tax is paid by commutters using our streets and parking lots...not by people who live here and use our buses and light rail." Uh! Most of the residents use their cars idiot. This affects all of us. : Would you prefer higher property taxes? Your arguement makes no sense. A parking tax is paid by commutters using our streets and parking lots...not by people who live here and use our buses and light rail. : : Everyone talks about Manzo but what about the rest - : : Healy (the pee wee) supported by Maldonaldo, Vega, Brennan and Gaughan ( the gay basher) all voted for a parking tax increase at the last council meeting. : : Smith - voted for it as well : : Lipski - Voted for it as well. : : Its an election year and they are voting for a tax increase hate to see what they do when its an offyear ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8541 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 15:09:25 Subject: Willie Flood is the ONLY one NOT being funded by MENENDEZ. This is a FACT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8542 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 15:13:40 Subject: Voters please remember Glenn and bring the LOVE back to City Hall. Elect Willie Flood For Mayor!!!!! Lets make history twice in a lifetime. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HAHAHEALY.COM posted Message 8543 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 15:19:26 Subject: HAHAHEALY.COM HAHAHEALY.COM ***************** End Of Article ****************** jxbdbn, posted Message 8544 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 15:20:44 Subject: Re: Wait for the next photo of Healy ,7 in all : : : ok well all know its not Jerry in the picture so lets knock is off already you people are getting more ridicolous by the minute!@ GO Jerry! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Comedian posted Message 8545 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 15:36:57 Subject: Uncle Harvey looks like a Dick with Glasses LOL LOL LOL LOL ***************** End Of Article ****************** Coverage of Jersey City Mayoral Race posted Message 8546 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 15:37:47 Subject: Watch Upn News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 Coverage of Jersey City Mayoral Race ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hater posted Message 8547 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 15:38:34 Subject: DICKFaced Bastard. He is a washed up Joke!!! : LOL LOL LOL LOL ***************** End Of Article ****************** Coverage? posted Message 8548 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 15:44:01 Subject: You mean they are giving Healy a towel? Heights pride. . . : Coverage of Jersey City Mayoral Race Watch Upn News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 ***************** End Of Article ****************** GETNJ posted Message 8549 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 15:52:24 Subject: Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 : Coverage of Jersey City Mayoral Race I understand that it's going to be on WB11, not UPN 9. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 posted Message 8550 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 15:58:17 Subject: Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 JERSEY CITY MAYORAL ELECTION COVERAGE Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 JERSEY CITY MAYORAL ELECTION COVERAGE ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 posted Message 8551 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 15:58:23 Subject: Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 JERSEY CITY MAYORAL ELECTION COVERAGE Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 JERSEY CITY MAYORAL ELECTION COVERAGE ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 posted Message 8551 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 15:58:23 Subject: Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 JERSEY CITY MAYORAL ELECTION COVERAGE Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 JERSEY CITY MAYORAL ELECTION COVERAGE ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8552 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 16:04:47 Subject: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive. Vote Willie Flood for Mayor!!! She is who we chose to continue on the work Glenn started. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CUNNINGHAM IS DEAD posted Message 8553 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 16:21:03 Subject: Re: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive. Vote Willie Flood for Mayor!!! : She is who we chose to continue on the work Glenn started. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy and McCann posted Message 8554 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 16:36:07 Subject: In 1991, Healy was appointed chief judge in the Jersey City Municipal Court by former Mayor Gerald McCann In 1991, Healy was appointed chief judge in the Jersey City Municipal Court by former Mayor Gerald McCann, McCann was also indicted the same year...1991. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mccann and Healy indictments/appointments 1991 posted Message 8555 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 16:37:36 Subject: In 1991, Healy was appointed chief judge in the Jersey City Municipal Court by former Mayor Gerald McCann, McCann was also indicted the same year...1991. In 1991, Healy was appointed chief judge in the Jersey City Municipal Court by former Mayor Gerald McCann, McCann was also indicted the same year...1991. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get a Clue posted Message 8556 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 16:38:57 Subject: Narrow Minds Understand Nothing You are obviously one of the neandrothal low lifes who can't think things through. Residents get "resident stickers" and can park in the neighborhoods just like we do now. Commuters pay for their parking in the lots and towers of the waterfront and THERE THEY WILL PAY A TAX. But you obviuously don't have the intelligence quotient to understand how the system can be structured to relieve residents of a huge burden by providing parking tax revenue to fix the damned roads. : >>"A parking tax is paid by commutters using our streets and parking lots...not by people who live here and use our buses and light rail." : Uh! Most of the residents use their cars idiot. This affects all of us. : : : Would you prefer higher property taxes? Your arguement makes no sense. A parking tax is paid by commutters using our streets and parking lots...not by people who live here and use our buses and light rail. : : : Everyone talks about Manzo but what about the rest - : : : Healy (the pee wee) supported by Maldonaldo, Vega, Brennan and Gaughan ( the gay basher) all voted for a parking tax increase at the last council meeting. : : : Smith - voted for it as well : : : Lipski - Voted for it as well. : : : Its an election year and they are voting for a tax increase hate to see what they do when its an offyear ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandra Cunningham posted Message 8557 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 17:25:19 Subject: Re: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive. Willie is as dumb as a tack! : It's over! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ron Manzo posted Message 8558 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 17:26:49 Subject: Mama Manzo says vote for Allen YOU CAN'T TRUST LOU MANZO HE WANTS TO GIVE PUBLIC EMPLOYEEBENEFITS MONEY TO HIS FELON BROTHER. DON'T LET IT HAPPEN! DON'T VOTE FOR THE FELONY TICKET! LOU MANZO IS SUPPORTED BY:DISGRACED MAYOR GERALD MCCANN -CONVICTED OF BANK FRAUD DISGRACED COUNTY EXECUTIVE BOB JANISZEWSKI- CONVICTED OF BRIBERY DISGRACED BUSINESSMAN RONALD MANZO- CONVICTED OF INSIDER TRADING DON'T BRING MORE DISGRACE TO OUR OFFICE - KEEP THE MANZOS AWAY FROM OUR MONEY!! Ron Manzo, convicted felon, brother of Assemblyman Lou Manzo and principal at RAM Insurance, has repeatedly tried to takeover benefits administration for Jersey City public employees. The union leaders have fought against him time and again because we cannottrust public funds and benefits to a man convicted of insider trading. Lou Manzo, partner at RAM Insurance, wants to become Mayor so he canhandover millions of dollars in benefits money to his felon brother andmake thousands of dollars for himself. Would you let a convicted felon manage public money? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flipski Speaks posted Message 8559 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 17:28:15 Subject: Don't vote for me, am confused! : BEFORE HE OPENS HIS MOUTH. I HEARD HE WAS A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy a desperate,broken down,drunken,sad, 3rd rate candidate posted Message 8560 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 17:34:15 Subject: Jerry Healy tried to say Vote for Ray Manzo Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** by Jerry Healy posted Message 8561 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 17:37:17 Subject: I am a drunken bum I am a loser and I am gay and I am a crack head and I'm a drunk and I am a mayoral candidate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 JERSEY CITY MAYORAL ELECTION COVERAGE posted Message 8562 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 17:39:26 Subject: Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 JERSEY CITY MAYORAL ELECTION COVERAGE Watch WB11 News Fri 10/22/04 at 10pm Ch 11 JERSEY CITY MAYORAL ELECTION COVERAGE ***************** End Of Article ****************** FAMILY VALUES posted Message 8563 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 17:43:48 Subject: LIPSKI LIPSKI LIPSKI gO BOY ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hosum Man - I am- sour posted Message 8564 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 17:46:46 Subject: Re:TRUE AMERICAN : : BEFORE HE OPENS HIS MOUTH. I HEARD HE WAS A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rock8496 posted Message 8565 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 17:58:56 Subject: Re: Voters please remember Glenn and bring the LOVE back to City Hall. Elect Willie Flood For Mayor!!!!! : Lets make history twice in a lifetime. : You gotta be kidding!!! Love...all I saw was hate and racism. I've worked for the City 26 years and I've never seen a more corrupt, racist and unintelligent administration in all those years. The administration was headed up by henchman Gene Drayton who is a piece of crap. Keep what legacy alive? They couldn't spell legacy. Drayton is now supporting Willie Flood. Do I want him back in City Hall??? HELL NO. Mayor Cunningham knew what was going on. He knew how Drayton treated people...both black and white. Mostly white. ***************** End Of Article ****************** believer posted Message 8566 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 19:24:47 Subject: Re: STOP STEVE LIPSKI NOW Stop him from what? Actually talking issues. I realize the others prefer to sling mud, at least Lipski has stayed above the negatives and talked the issues. Perhaps if the others talked issues rather than having their people worry about tearing down signs, they might have a chance. : BEFORE HE OPENS HIS MOUTH. I HEARD HE WAS A PROFESSIONAL IDI ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're an IDIOT posted Message 8567 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 19:35:45 Subject: PARKING TAXES RELIEVE PROPERTY TAXES Now I know the idiot who wrote this must have at least a clue that a parking tax is really a commuter tax. If not...let's get basic here. The guy that lives in Ocean County and drives into Jersey City to either take the PATH or ferry to New York, or to work in the towers on the waterfront, will pay a parking tax in the lots there. That will add millions of dollars to the city's income without taking a dime from residents. So why is this so hard to understand? I guess Manzo's people just don't get it. : Healy (the pee wee) supported by Maldonaldo, Vega, Brennan and Gaughan ( the gay basher) all voted for a parking tax increase at the last council meeting. : Smith - voted for it as well : Lipski - Voted for it as well. : Its an election year and they are voting for a tax increase hate to see what they do when its an offyear ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jimmy's a punk posted Message 8568 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 20:31:01 Subject: Jim Corley is an A$$hole I guess it must be hard working under Jefferson; the two of you couldn’t put one meaningful thought together. I’ll tell you one thing, I am not going to defend the previous chief, but it wasn’t him who wanted a new car painted GOLD at the taxpayer’s expense of $4500. He wasn’t the one who purchased a micro wave oven and a refrigerator for his office, instead of much needed police equipment. In addition to that, the chief didn’t hire all his secretaries with the same first name. Not too much brains in Jefferson’s head to remember people’s first names, or could it be he didn’t want to get himself in trouble by calling out someone else’s name in the night. Pretty tough when you have your secretary (mistress) living under the same roof. Talking about indictments, I wouldn’t talk to loud if I were you. You know working for the housing unit and SIU at the same time certainty will catch up to you, especially when you did it 51 times. But, then again you fit right in with the felony ticket. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandra Bolden posted Message 8569 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 20:42:52 Subject: Re: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive. Willie Flood is as dumb as a tack! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tack, Tack, Tack posted Message 8570 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 20:45:08 Subject: Re: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive. Willie Flood is as dumb as a tack! Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb,Dumb, ***************** End Of Article ****************** 10 percenter posted Message 8571 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 20:53:45 Subject: King this Jimmy King's going away and it won't be camp cupcake for him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ASHAMED OF THE HEALY BIGOTS posted Message 8572 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 20:59:29 Subject: LOUIE? You looked a little RED last night. NO, LOU WAS RED WITH RAGE AT THE RACIST BIGOTED HEALY SUPPORTERS. SUPPORTERS BY THE WAY WHO ARE WHOLEHEARTEDLY ENCOURAGED AND EGGED ON BY HIS NAKEDNESS- JERRY HEALY DRUNK EXTRODINAIRE. JC WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF ALL OF THE HEALY IGNORANT, RACIST A$$HOLES JUST STAYED AT THE ASTOR UNTIL THEY ALL DRANK THEMSELVE TO DEAD! : Rcaist bastard!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wee Wee posted Message 8573 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 21:02:40 Subject: Pee Wee''s Little ........ Jerry needs some wee wee surgery real bad. With a dip stick like that....well...it must be devastating. : Healy (the pee wee) supported by Maldonaldo, Vega, Brennan and Gaughan ( the gay basher) all voted for a parking tax increase at the last council meeting. : Smith - voted for it as well : Lipski - Voted for it as well. : Its an election year and they are voting for a tax increase hate to see what they do when its an offyear ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL posted Message 8574 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 21:07:49 Subject: Horney Healy Has His Hands Full - Almost : Playing with himself, also on the porch, from same set of photos. : Next week on WWW.HAHAHEALY.COM ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8575 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 21:19:03 Subject: manzo 13d does anyone know what 13D stands for it stands for how many di*ks manzo su*ks every day hay manzo how much is your boyfriend mortgage on the house that you pay its time to come out of the closet and let the people know that you are gay ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dr Jordan posted Message 8576 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 21:28:16 Subject: Manzo was put in a mental ward. Manzo's mental ward papers are about to come to light. Will he be sane again if he loses for a 4th time? ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8577 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 21:33:13 Subject: cutting down signs its funny how all the healy and smiths signs were cut down last night and the manzo signs were not touch i wonder who did it let me guess the manzo crew like pete baron sean connor jimmy pasquale jerry mccann and all the other a$$hole that are doing it you will get caught and arrested you people are a bounch of low life scumb@g ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8578 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 21:37:17 Subject: Re: Manzo was put in a mental ward. : Manzo's mental ward papers are about to come to light. : Will he be sane again if he loses for a 4th time? for what swallowing to much c*m from $ucking all the di*ks ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8579 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 21:45:54 Subject: manzo song you all know the song 99 beers on the wall well manzo song is 99 co*ks on the take one down $uck it dry 98 co*ks on the wall ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tony A$$mobile's Droppings posted Message 8580 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 21:54:51 Subject: You Eat You low life healy scum. : you all know the song 99 beers on the wall well manzo song is 99 co*ks on the take one down $uck it dry 98 co*ks on the wall ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8581 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 22:02:34 Subject: Re: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive. Vote Willie Flood for Mayor!!! : She is who we chose to continue on the work Glenn started. are you fu*king crazy put another a$$hole in office no way she will be like cunningham do for greenville and fu*k the rest of the city get the FU*K out of here go back to picking cotton ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8582 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 22:04:38 Subject: Re: You Eat : You low life healy scum. : : you all know the song 99 beers on the wall well manzo song is 99 co*ks on the take one down $uck it dry 98 co*ks on the wall your mother is alow life scum ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8583 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 22:47:09 Subject: Re: Everyone knows that WILLIE FLOOD is the ONLY candidate that will help EVERYBODY!! : Not just friends family and contributors. yes just the blacks you a$$hole ***************** End Of Article ****************** johnny posted Message 8584 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 22:53:43 Subject: Re: cutting down signs : its funny how all the healy and smiths signs were cut down last night and the manzo signs were not touch i wonder who did it let me guess the manzo crew like pete baron sean connor jimmy pasquale jerry mccann and all the other a$$hole that are doing it you will get caught and arrested you people are a bounch of low life scumb@g its funny how pete baron was seen cutting down signs on lincoln st last nite ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sidd Vicious posted Message 8585 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 22:55:57 Subject: 3% 3% 3% 3% 3% 3% 3% Way to go Flipski !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** paul posted Message 8586 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 23:01:50 Subject: healy on the move the poll is out healy is ahead by 6% by montclair college and rising so you go healy healy for mayor go healy go healy go healy ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8587 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 23:05:15 Subject: Re: 3% 3% 3% 3% 3% 3% 3% : Way to go Flipski !!!! is that his IQ or the amount of friends he had sence his dog died ***************** End Of Article ****************** Oh you must be one of those posted Message 8588 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 23:16:03 Subject: Re: Narrow Minds Understand Nothing Sc*m s*cking, d*cking l*ing, a**hole f*cking $hithead yuppies that have infested Jersey City with their I'm so brilliant and you are nothing lowlife sh*t attitude. That is okay we hate you too! Die yuppie Sc*m! : You are obviously one of the neandrothal low lifes who can't think things through. Residents get "resident stickers" and can park in the neighborhoods just like we do now. Commuters pay for their parking in the lots and towers of the waterfront and THERE THEY WILL PAY A TAX. But you obviuously don't have the intelligence quotient to understand how the system can be structured to relieve residents of a huge burden by providing parking tax revenue to fix the damned roads. : : >>"A parking tax is paid by commutters using our streets and parking lots...not by people who live here and use our buses and light rail." : : Uh! Most of the residents use their cars idiot. This affects all of us. : : : : : Would you prefer higher property taxes? Your arguement makes no sense. A parking tax is paid by commutters using our streets and parking lots...not by people who live here and use our buses and light rail. : : : : Everyone talks about Manzo but what about the rest - : : : : Healy (the pee wee) supported by Maldonaldo, Vega, Brennan and Gaughan ( the gay basher) all voted for a parking tax increase at the last council meeting. : : : : Smith - voted for it as well : : : : Lipski - Voted for it as well. : : : : Its an election year and they are voting for a tax increase hate to see what they do when its an offyear ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 8589 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 22, 2004 at 23:53:14 Subject: HOORAY FOR HEALY AHEAD IN POLLS HEY LOONEY LOUIE AND GERRY MCCANT KEEP THE NEGATIVITY GOING BECAUSE HEALY IS GETTING STRONGER BECAUSE OF IT YOU A$$HOLES. A NEW POLE OUT TODAY FROM MONTCLAIR COLLEGE HAS HEALY AHEAD BY A NICE MARGIN 5 POINTS I THINK AND GETTING STRONGER AS THE ELECTION DRAWS NEARER. SO KEEP SHOWING THOOSE PICS TO LITTLE CHILDREN AND THE MOTHERS AT ALL THE SCHOOLS IN THE CITY MCCANN IS A DESPERADO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 8590 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 00:08:36 Subject: HEALY A WINNER NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. JERRY HEALY MOVING UP FAST IN THE POLES LOUIE MANZO AT A STAND STILL FOR 2 WEEKS AND A SURPRISE FOR MANZO IS HE WILL LOSE WARD "A" THAT HE NEEDS FOR A VICTORY. HEALY WILL WIN WARDS _ A . D . E. EASILY AND SPLIT WARD "C" "B" WILL GO TO LOUIE BY A SMALL MARGIN. AND HEALY BEATS LOU IN WARD "F" SO DO THE NUMBERS AND SEE WHAT YOU GET. ALL HEALY REALLY NEEDS IS WARD "A" & "D" FOR A VICTORY ON NOVEMBER 2ND THE REST IS GRAVY . SEE YOU AT THE PARTY. GO JERRY!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** TERMINATOR posted Message 8591 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 00:15:46 Subject: MANZO SIGNS STARTING THIS MONDAY THERE WONT BE A MANZO SIGN STANDING BY THE END OF THE WEEK. INCLUDING JIMMY KINGS AND THE ONE HE THINKS WE CANT GET ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING WITH THE PIC OF LOU . HEY JIMMY EVER HEAR OF HIGH PRESSURE PAINT BALL GUNS HA HA HA ! SO MANZO SIGN MEN BEWARE THE RONNIE COPS ARE WATCHING YOU . YOU TOO PETE BARON. HA HA HA!! SIGNED THE TERMINATOR. ***************** End Of Article ****************** YOU mOTHER IS A ho FOR THE hcdo posted Message 8592 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 00:19:14 Subject: Re: You Eat : : You low life healy scum. : : : you all know the song 99 beers on the wall well manzo song is 99 co*ks on the take one down $uck it dry 98 co*ks on the wall : your mother is alow life scum ***************** End Of Article ****************** hEALY WILL ONLY GET DRUNK ON ELECTION DAY posted Message 8593 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 00:20:32 Subject: Re: HEALY A LOSER : JERRY HEALY MOVING UP FAST IN THE POLES LOUIE MANZO AT A STAND STILL FOR 2 WEEKS AND A SURPRISE FOR MANZO IS HE WILL LOSE WARD "A" THAT HE NEEDS FOR A VICTORY. : HEALY WILL WIN WARDS _ A . D . E. EASILY AND SPLIT WARD "C" : "B" WILL GO TO LOUIE BY A SMALL MARGIN. : AND HEALY BEATS LOU IN WARD "F" SO DO THE NUMBERS AND SEE WHAT YOU GET. ALL HEALY REALLY NEEDS IS WARD "A" & "D" FOR A VICTORY ON NOVEMBER 2ND THE REST IS GRAVY . : SEE YOU AT THE PARTY. GO JERRY!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** New Healy Pics - Jerry with his Pet posted Message 8594 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 00:54:40 Subject: Re: Wait for the next photo of Healy ,7 in all : : : : : ok well all know its not Jerry in the picture so lets knock is off already you people are getting more ridicolous by the minute!@ GO Jerry! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not for nothing.... posted Message 8595 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 06:05:48 Subject: Re: HOORAY FOR HEALY AHEAD IN POLLS :::Why would anyone believe what comes out of Montclair College in Essex County? First, doesn't Mrs. C. work there - 'nuff said - and second, isn't Essex County just as corrupt if not more so than Hudson? You A-holes better try again. : HEY LOONEY LOUIE AND GERRY MCCANT KEEP THE NEGATIVITY GOING BECAUSE HEALY IS GETTING STRONGER BECAUSE OF IT YOU A$$HOLES. : A NEW POLE OUT TODAY FROM MONTCLAIR COLLEGE HAS HEALY AHEAD BY A NICE MARGIN 5 POINTS I THINK AND GETTING STRONGER AS THE ELECTION DRAWS NEARER. SO KEEP SHOWING THOOSE PICS TO LITTLE CHILDREN AND THE MOTHERS AT ALL THE SCHOOLS IN THE CITY : MCCANN IS A DESPERADO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Too funny posted Message 8596 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 06:08:55 Subject: Re: HEALY A WINNER NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. :::"JERRY HEALY MOVING UP FAST IN THE POLES". Either he has a bigger ladder than Lou or he climbs climbs better than we thought. I've seen Jerry's base. They are like you, barely literate. : JERRY HEALY MOVING UP FAST IN THE POLES LOUIE MANZO AT A STAND STILL FOR 2 WEEKS AND A SURPRISE FOR MANZO IS HE WILL LOSE WARD "A" THAT HE NEEDS FOR A VICTORY. : HEALY WILL WIN WARDS _ A . D . E. EASILY AND SPLIT WARD "C" : "B" WILL GO TO LOUIE BY A SMALL MARGIN. : AND HEALY BEATS LOU IN WARD "F" SO DO THE NUMBERS AND SEE WHAT YOU GET. ALL HEALY REALLY NEEDS IS WARD "A" & "D" FOR A VICTORY ON NOVEMBER 2ND THE REST IS GRAVY . : SEE YOU AT THE PARTY. GO JERRY!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** RICO Laws posted Message 8597 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 08:06:44 Subject: If you are a member OF the HCDO-you are part of the problem Healy ,Are you a member of the HCDO?Will you do and join anything in order to get elected.Nepotism is alive and well at the HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 8598 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 08:22:25 Subject: In Ramadan Muslim CEO's Sacrifice and Give Back In Ramadan Muslim CEO's Sacrifice and Give Back with Charitable Donation ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 8599 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 08:28:09 Subject: DEPT. OF HOMELAND SECURITY NEARS DEPT. OF HOMELAND SECURITY NEARS ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 8600 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 08:45:21 Subject: Jersey Journal: From defacing signs to dead animals, Jersey City race ratchets it up a notch From defacing signs to dead animals, Jersey City race ratchets it up a notch Saturday, October 23, 2004 By Maria Zingaro Conte and Jason Fink . . . The hardball began weeks ago, when photographs surfaced of mayoral candidate Jerramiah Healy, a city councilman, disrobed and slouching on his front stoop at 3 a.m. One of Healy's neighbors said he took the photos after he spotted Healy sitting on his front porch in his birthday suit. But a panicked Healy campaign offered up a very different explanation. The candidate had been out late at a party, Healy spokeswoman Maria Pignataro said. He'd had several drinks - Healy is quoted in a published report estimating the number at between six and eight - and was about to go to bed when he heard a commotion outside his house. Questioned about whether he should be drinking as a diabetic, he responded: "I am very healthy, considering I'm diabetic. I am still very healthy. If you know about diabetics, you know that they can carry on absolutely fully functional." Somehow the Healy photos worked their way into the hands of Gerald McCann, a former mayor and a campaign aide to state Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who is also running in the Nov. 2 election. McCann, who left office in 1991 and went to prison on a federal bank fraud conviction unrelated to his time as mayor, said he showed the photos to "maybe six or seven people" and that he didn't even show them to Manzo. . . . To read the complete piece, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Because you can't campaign on ISSUES dummy! posted Message 8601 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 08:50:25 Subject: Cutting down signs, and putting signs where the don't belong Do we really want a city, where people run around on private property with boxcutters, and slash signs? Do we really want a Mayor who ignores ordinances, and posts signs on poles? ***************** End Of Article ****************** load watcher posted Message 8602 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 09:28:14 Subject: Re: If you are a member OF the HCDO-you are part of the problem : Healy ,Are you a member of the HCDO?Will you do and join anything in order to get elected.Nepotism is alive and well at the HCDO. ;;;;Nepotism: Jobs-Gaughans 6 Veterans 0 ***************** End Of Article ****************** where's Dickson? posted Message 8603 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 09:33:33 Subject: Re: Cutting down signs, and putting signs where the don't belong : Do we really want a city, where people run around on private property with boxcutters, and slash signs? Do we really want a Mayor who ignores ordinances, and posts signs on poles? ::::Road menace temporarily removed. Now Dickson has a county paid driver. What next? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Another Disgusted Web SUrfer posted Message 8604 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 09:38:38 Subject: ANTHONY YOUR PARTISANSHIP IS STUNNING ANTHONY, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU HAVEN'T DONE TO HELP SINK THE HEALY CAMPAIGN? IT IS SO APPARENT WHERE YOU STAND IN THIS ELECTION, AND STILL YOU PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE AS IF YOU HAVE NO AGENDA. VERY SAD. ***************** End Of Article ****************** by the tape posted Message 8605 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 09:59:01 Subject: ANTHONY NOT BIASED JERRY IS BAREASSED! : ANTHONY, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU HAVEN'T DONE TO HELP SINK THE HEALY CAMPAIGN? IT IS SO APPARENT WHERE YOU STAND IN THIS ELECTION, AND STILL YOU PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE AS IF YOU HAVE NO AGENDA. VERY SAD. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 8606 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 10:05:15 Subject: News 12 Video: Joe Doria on the 2003 Primary Challenge To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jambo posted Message 8607 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 10:27:58 Subject: HAELY ALL THE WAY HEALY NOW HAS THE MOMENTUN TO KICK THE $HIT OUT OF MANZO ON ELECTION DAY. EVERY POLL INCLUDING LOUIES INDICATES A HEALY VICTORY. MANY MANZO SUPPORTERS ARE COMING TO HEALY AND SOME ARE STILL THERE SPYING FOR HEALY.BEWARE LOU ITS ALMOST OVER FOR YOU AND MCCANT. GO HEALY!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kerry,s Man in JERSEY CITY posted Message 8608 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 10:37:31 Subject: The Honarable Nake Candidate for Mayor Is the Honorable Judge Jerramiah Healy worth of the trust of the people of Jersey City ?Sitting alfresco with all his mini parts on the steps of his front porch. Kerry likes his supportes to be NAKE .........Healy admits that this photos is himself, he had 6to8 beers and lost control , Healy may lost #$%^&&&&&*****(((((())))))))%%%%@## CONTROL as mayor and will spouse himself at city hall a budget meeting or the nake part is only ,part of the campaing to be in tune with the HCDO.Healy run for mayor on his birthday suit with the support of Kerry for President and Corzine as the chief campaing for NJ DEM.....Great Show........ Question IS KERRY OK WITH HEALY ALFRESCO?????????????? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 8609 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 10:42:06 Subject: Why is Eason still the Communication Director ??? Get rid of all Cunningham lackeys now !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO NO MORALS posted Message 8610 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 10:44:20 Subject: Re: HAELY ALL THE WAY : HEALY NOW HAS THE MOMENTUN TO KICK THE $HIT OUT OF MANZO ON ELECTION DAY. EVERY POLL INCLUDING LOUIES INDICATES A HEALY VICTORY. MANY MANZO SUPPORTERS ARE COMING TO HEALY AND SOME ARE STILL THERE SPYING FOR HEALY.BEWARE LOU ITS ALMOST OVER FOR YOU AND MCCANT. GO HEALY!!!! MR OR MS. JAMBO DO YOU READ THE JERSEY JOURNAL DO YOU HAVE CHILDREN? YOU HAPPY WITH A CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR THAT EXPOSED HIMSELF TO YOUNG KIDS YOU MOST BE A STRONG MEMBER OF THE CORRUPT HCDO....HOW MANY BEERS YOU HAD TODAY FOR BREAKFAST......? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 8611 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 10:45:18 Subject: Why does Martin Jackson still work for the City ??? He can be observed most days sleeping at his desk. Get rid of all Cunningham lackeys now !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 8612 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 10:46:18 Subject: Why does Greg Corrado still work for the City ??? Get rid of all Cunningham lackeys now !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 8613 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 10:59:40 Subject: Re: Cutting down signs, and putting signs where the don't belong :::Jimmy has been home taking care of his husbandly duties namely me. Besides, we aint got no more room for all the Manzo signs he brought home. He always was such a good worker. It's ok baby, I love you. : : Do we really want a city, where people run around on private property with boxcutters, and slash signs? Do we really want a Mayor who ignores ordinances, and posts signs on poles? : ::::Road menace temporarily removed. Now Dickson has a county paid driver. What next? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Come back when you learn to spell your God's name correctly posted Message 8614 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 11:00:49 Subject: Re: HAELY ALL THE WAY : HEALY NOW HAS THE MOMENTUN TO KICK THE $HIT OUT OF MANZO ON ELECTION DAY. EVERY POLL INCLUDING LOUIES INDICATES A HEALY VICTORY. MANY MANZO SUPPORTERS ARE COMING TO HEALY AND SOME ARE STILL THERE SPYING FOR HEALY.BEWARE LOU ITS ALMOST OVER FOR YOU AND MCCANT. GO HEALY!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** MAYORLIPSKI posted Message 8615 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 11:15:19 Subject: Re: 3% 3% 3% 3% 3% 3% 3%= 21% : : Way to go Flipski !!!! : is that his IQ or the amount of friends he had sence his dog died ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey Journal 10 23 04 posted Message 8616 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 11:31:26 Subject: Manzo is Not Gay The following quote by Lou Manzo, the leading candidate for mayor: " On a more personal level, Manzo, who is unmarried, said recent television ads have insinuated that he is gay. He said he is not and, though he made a point of noting that sexual orientation should not make a difference in a political campaign, he nevertheless characterized it as attack politics. "That type of slime doesn't have a place in politics," he said. "I am a heterosexual. If I wasn't heterosexual it shouldn't make a difference if I was running for mayor." So all you Healy Homophobes out there better watch out if you continue to slander Lou. We know who you are, and we will track you down back to your spider holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JERRY'S CLOTHES posted Message 8617 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 11:37:29 Subject: Re: ANTHONY YOU TOOK OFF You are absolutely right about Anthony. Not only that but there was a fellow named ANthony who was present when the Healy photo's were taken. Jerry was dragged from his house and Anthony tore off every bit of his clothes. That's how the Healyn nude picture can about. However Anthony had no part in the photo that will be coming out this week where a nude Jerry is performing obscene acts with his dog. You got to see that one! and, there will be more to follow. ALso, many people are now coming forward with accounts of other 'nude escapades' performed by Jerry. This guy literally cannot keep his pants on! : ANTHONY, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU HAVEN'T DONE TO HELP SINK THE HEALY CAMPAIGN? IT IS SO APPARENT WHERE YOU STAND IN THIS ELECTION, AND STILL YOU PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE AS IF YOU HAVE NO AGENDA. VERY SAD. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JERRY'S CLOTHES posted Message 8618 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 11:39:19 Subject: Re: ANTHONY YOU TOOK OFF You are absolutely right about Anthony. Not only that but there was a fellow named ANthony who was present when the Healy photo's were taken. Jerry was dragged from his house and Anthony tore off every bit of his clothes. That's how the Healyn nude picture can about. However Anthony had no part in the photo that will be coming out this week where a nude Jerry is performing obscene acts with his dog. You got to see that one! and, there will be more to follow. ALso, many people are now coming forward with accounts of other 'nude escapades' performed by Jerry. This guy literally cannot keep his pants on! : ANTHONY, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU HAVEN'T DONE TO HELP SINK THE HEALY CAMPAIGN? IT IS SO APPARENT WHERE YOU STAND IN THIS ELECTION, AND STILL YOU PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE AS IF YOU HAVE NO AGENDA. VERY SAD. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Is not True posted Message 8619 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 11:50:13 Subject: Healy's Story About the Nude Picture The following quote was in today's JJ. " The hardball began weeks ago, when photographs surfaced of mayoral candidate Jerramiah Healy, a city councilman, disrobed and slouching on his front stoop at 3 a.m. One of Healy's neighbors said he took the photos after he spotted Healy sitting on his front porch in his birthday suit. " The claim by Healy that this happened at 3:00 AM is totally false. If you go to wwww.hahahealy.com you will see that the picture was taken in broad daylight. The person who took the picture claimed it was taken around 10:30-11:00 Am, not 3 AM. That's why the neighbor took the picture, Healy does this sort of thing all the time and the neighbor was getting sick of it. When the neighbor found out that this exhibitionist wanted to be mayor, well you can understand civic responsibility took over and the neighbor felt it was necessary that voters should be aware when they go to the polls what sort of person Jerry Healy is. Could you image going into a meeting with the mayor, and there he is with no clothes on? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Degise's sister is on the payroll too posted Message 8620 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 11:55:57 Subject: Re: If you are a member OF the HCDO-you are part of the problem Let's not forget of the strong example for perpetuating nepotism by his holiness County Excuse - Tommy Disguist. His own sister is on the payroll for $75,000. Not bad, all she has to do is be his sister, something she's had to do all her life. Come on Tommy, let's here it right from you, 'I support Nepotism and encourage all of my crew to practice it as well'. But I doubt the hard-working taxpayers of Hudson County will ever get an answer from you, you snivelling coward. But we will not let you forget, not now not when you run again, never, never never! : : Healy ,Are you a member of the HCDO?Will you do and join anything in order to get elected.Nepotism is alive and well at the HCDO. : ;;;;Nepotism: Jobs-Gaughans 6 : Veterans 0 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Schundler Lackey posted Message 8621 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 12:44:55 Subject: Corrado was a Schundler Lackey ...not Cuningham's I agree...kick his ass out of city government and his wife too. But remember...he's Bret's Butt Boy.... not Cunningham's. : Get rid of all Cunningham lackeys now !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Confident Healy Supporter posted Message 8622 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 12:53:11 Subject: More Attacks mean we are winning :) I can see the fear in the eyes of Manzo's Crew. They see Healy has surged in the polls. They know the truth about who is ahead and that Lou has begun slipping even further behind. And you can see the desperation in their eyes. Their mistake is following McCann's slanderous attacks, and his win at any proce attitude. JC people are smarter than those fools give them credit for. And they see what kind of campaign McManzo is running. The more slime they pour on the ground, the more voters they push over to Healy. Stay on track Jerry. Keep talking issues and you will win this election. And Manzo will go down as a loser for the fifth time. I think after being a five-time loser he will give up on trying to become Mayor of Jersey City. So keep those slimey attacks comming Gerry McCann... we know its all about you and your need to win at any price. Maybe when Lou figures out that it was YOU that cost him this election... you will be on the unemployment line once again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Please Wait posted Message 8623 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 13:08:10 Subject: What a crew of candidates! Can't we just leave the current acting mayor in until May? Then maybe some serious candidate will run for the four year term. These people are a bunch of a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Viola R. posted Message 8624 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 13:10:49 Subject: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive! She is dumb, Sandy should have endorsed me. Instaed she endorses that honkie and now this idiot. I'll get even with you Sandra Dee. I am the new leader in Ward F. All Hail! ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 8625 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 13:33:34 Subject: Re: Healy's Story About the Nude Picture : The following quote was in today's JJ. : " The hardball began weeks ago, when photographs surfaced of mayoral candidate Jerramiah Healy, a city councilman, disrobed and slouching on his front stoop at 3 a.m. : One of Healy's neighbors said he took the photos after he spotted Healy sitting on his front porch in his birthday suit. " : The claim by Healy that this happened at 3:00 AM is totally false. : If you go to wwww.hahahealy.com you will see that the picture was taken in broad daylight. The person who took the picture claimed it was taken around 10:30-11:00 Am, not 3 AM. That's why the neighbor took the picture, Healy does this sort of thing all the time and the neighbor was getting sick of it. When the neighbor found out that this exhibitionist wanted to be mayor, well you can understand civic responsibility took over and the neighbor felt it was necessary that voters should be aware when they go to the polls what sort of person Jerry Healy is. Could you image going into a meeting with the mayor, and there he is with no clothes on? it is so funny how that picture looks more like manzo looking down 1 it is very poor computer work,and if this happened at 3a.m. why is the sun shining on him.Manzo you and youre team are so ridiculous.Did you forget with the technology out there a 5 year old can do a better job.I guess when you are such a low life.You need to do anything possible to try to slander and be little people, make up stories and try to put pictures out there that makes healy look bad.Because you are so unproffesional I know there is many people out there that changed who they are voteing for.By the way someone should put the pictures of little boys coming into your home everyday on the internet.But then that will make them scoop to your level which is the lowest you can get. so I guess they won't. be put on the internet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 8626 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 13:39:23 Subject: Re: Manzo is Not Gay/He wants jersey to think hes not ha ha ha : The following quote by Lou Manzo, the leading candidate for mayor: : " On a more personal level, Manzo, who is unmarried, said recent television ads have insinuated that he is gay. : He said he is not and, though he made a point of noting that sexual orientation should not make a difference in a political campaign, he nevertheless characterized it as attack politics. : "That type of slime doesn't have a place in politics," he said. "I am a heterosexual. If I wasn't heterosexual it shouldn't make a difference if I was running for mayor." : So all you Healy Homophobes out there better watch out if you continue to slander Lou. We know who you are, and we will track you down back to your spider holes. yeah right manzo I am one of your neighbors and I see little boys going in to your house all the time.The nasty politics you are talking about are coming from you playing dirty.tell everyone what you been doing.I believe they would like to know.Maybe you would like to start with what pete Baron has been doing every night.Trespassing etc.That can but you in jail.Right manzo start confessing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 8627 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 13:40:41 Subject: Re: Healy's Story About the Nude Picture Manzo can you get any lower thats right he can : : The following quote was in today's JJ. : : " The hardball began weeks ago, when photographs surfaced of mayoral candidate Jerramiah Healy, a city councilman, disrobed and slouching on his front stoop at 3 a.m. : : One of Healy's neighbors said he took the photos after he spotted Healy sitting on his front porch in his birthday suit. " : : The claim by Healy that this happened at 3:00 AM is totally false. : : If you go to wwww.hahahealy.com you will see that the picture was taken in broad daylight. The person who took the picture claimed it was taken around 10:30-11:00 Am, not 3 AM. That's why the neighbor took the picture, Healy does this sort of thing all the time and the neighbor was getting sick of it. When the neighbor found out that this exhibitionist wanted to be mayor, well you can understand civic responsibility took over and the neighbor felt it was necessary that voters should be aware when they go to the polls what sort of person Jerry Healy is. Could you image going into a meeting with the mayor, and there he is with no clothes on? : it is so funny how that picture looks more like manzo looking down 1 it is very poor computer work,and if this happened at 3a.m. why is the sun shining on him.Manzo you and youre team are so ridiculous.Did you forget with the technology out there a 5 year old can do a better job.I guess when you are such a low life.You need to do anything possible to try to slander and be little people, make up stories and try to put pictures out there that makes healy look bad.Because you are so unproffesional I know there is many people out there that changed who they are voteing for.By the way someone should put the pictures of little boys coming into your home everyday on the internet.But then that will make them scoop to your level which is the lowest you can get. so I guess they won't. be put on the internet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 8628 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 13:44:10 Subject: During what hours is public nudity legal in Jersey City? Is 3AM the beginning or the end of the legal nudity hours? : The following quote was in today's JJ. : " The hardball began weeks ago, when photographs surfaced of mayoral candidate Jerramiah Healy, a city councilman, disrobed and slouching on his front stoop at 3 a.m. : One of Healy's neighbors said he took the photos after he spotted Healy sitting on his front porch in his birthday suit. " : The claim by Healy that this happened at 3:00 AM is totally false. : If you go to wwww.hahahealy.com you will see that the picture was taken in broad daylight. The person who took the picture claimed it was taken around 10:30-11:00 Am, not 3 AM. That's why the neighbor took the picture, Healy does this sort of thing all the time and the neighbor was getting sick of it. When the neighbor found out that this exhibitionist wanted to be mayor, well you can understand civic responsibility took over and the neighbor felt it was necessary that voters should be aware when they go to the polls what sort of person Jerry Healy is. Could you image going into a meeting with the mayor, and there he is with no clothes on? ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 8629 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 13:50:16 Subject: Re: HEALY A WINNER NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. : :::"JERRY HEALY MOVING UP FAST IN THE POLES". Either he has a bigger ladder than Lou or he climbs climbs better than we thought. I've seen Jerry's base. They are like you, barely literate. : : : JERRY HEALY MOVING UP FAST IN THE POLES LOUIE MANZO AT A STAND STILL FOR 2 WEEKS AND A SURPRISE FOR MANZO IS HE WILL LOSE WARD "A" THAT HE NEEDS FOR A VICTORY. : : HEALY WILL WIN WARDS _ A . D . E. EASILY AND SPLIT WARD "C" : : "B" WILL GO TO LOUIE BY A SMALL MARGIN. : : AND HEALY BEATS LOU IN WARD "F" SO DO THE NUMBERS AND SEE WHAT YOU GET. ALL HEALY REALLY NEEDS IS WARD "A" & "D" FOR A VICTORY ON NOVEMBER 2ND THE REST IS GRAVY . : : SEE YOU AT THE PARTY. GO JERRY!!! Every time healy is ahead manzos team does something. I thought Manzo was running haha.It seems like all his help which are from jersey city.That havent passed high school, are becoming mayor.Oh I forgot they are his a$$wipes.And pete Baron thinks he can do anything he wants.Pete that is a good example you are setting for your daughter let her walk with you as you are ripping peoples signs down. WOW you are dad of the year.Thats because he will have his jersey city police officer sister get him out of trouble. Hey mManzo so thats where you are getting your inside information. ***************** End Of Article ****************** gfr posted Message 8630 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 13:53:59 Subject: Re: people are so jealous : : JERRY HEALY MOVING UP FAST IN THE POLES LOUIE MANZO AT A STAND STILL FOR 2 WEEKS AND A SURPRISE FOR MANZO IS HE WILL LOSE WARD "A" THAT HE NEEDS FOR A VICTORY. : : HEALY WILL WIN WARDS _ A . D . E. EASILY AND SPLIT WARD "C" : : "B" WILL GO TO LOUIE BY A SMALL MARGIN. : : AND HEALY BEATS LOU IN WARD "F" SO DO THE NUMBERS AND SEE WHAT YOU GET. ALL HEALY REALLY NEEDS IS WARD "A" & "D" FOR A VICTORY ON NOVEMBER 2ND THE REST IS GRAVY . : : SEE YOU AT THE PARTY. GO JERRY!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** jUST ANOTHER JERSEY CITY RESIDENT posted Message 8631 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 13:57:11 Subject: Re: You Eat/mANZOS LOW LIVES ARE GETTING MAD OOOH POOR BABIES : : : You low life healy scum. : : : : you all know the song 99 beers on the wall well manzo song is 99 co*ks on the take one down $uck it dry 98 co*ks on the wall : : your mother is alow life scum OOH GETTING MAD HATE TO HEAR THE TRUTH. ***************** End Of Article ****************** concerned in n.j. posted Message 8632 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 14:00:17 Subject: Re: What a crew of candidates! Manzos team is acting like a bunch of 5 I mean 2 year olds. : Can't we just leave the current acting mayor in until May? Then maybe some serious candidate will run for the four year term. These people are a bunch of a$$holes. ATTACKS ALWAYS GO OUT TO THE BEST MAN AND HEALY WILL AND IS NOW THE BEST MAN FOR MAYOR.sO MANZOS TEAM ARE GETTING UPSET. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 8633 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 14:05:13 Subject: How did he keep his job under Cunningham ? By kissing Cunningham's a$$ big time. Then he let McGee butt-f*ck him !! Get him out now !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** people like you are blowing this all up,and getting off the subject on who should be mayor. posted Message 8634 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 14:25:40 Subject: Re: If you are a member OF the HCDO-you are part of the problem : Let's not forget of the strong example for perpetuating nepotism by his holiness County Excuse - Tommy Disguist. His own sister is on the payroll for $75,000. Not bad, all she has to do is be his sister, something she's had to do all her life. : Come on Tommy, let's here it right from you, 'I support Nepotism and encourage all of my crew to practice it as well'. : But I doubt the hard-working taxpayers of Hudson County will ever get an answer from you, you snivelling coward. But we will not let you forget, not now not when you run again, never, never never! : : : : Healy ,Are you a member of the HCDO?Will you do and join anything in order to get elected.Nepotism is alive and well at the HCDO. : : ;;;;Nepotism: Jobs-Gaughans 6 : : Veterans 0 This article just shows how little babies you are acting like.Who cares what family member works for what.Did you all forget whats going on vote mayor not family members. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Shatika posted Message 8635 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 14:29:01 Subject: Not for nuthin Hey, not for nothin but I see Healy more in the neighborhood than I ever saw Manzo. And Manzo is an assemblyman and I never see him in my neighoborhood asking what he can do for us. But I do see Healy asking around about what the neighborhood needs, and he does show up when we ask him to come talk about a problem. I'm not really into this political thing, but I am going to vote this time cause I'm voting for President. They say Willie can't win, and I want my vote to count. And I do like Healy a little more than Manzo because I don't think the Mayor who went to jail should be back in our city hall. And I think that Mr. Healy really wants to help us, not just build up some kind of power he can use. So I'm voting for Healy. : Can't we just leave the current acting mayor in until May? Then maybe some serious candidate will run for the four year term. These people are a bunch of a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Focus Factor posted Message 8636 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 14:30:01 Subject: Anthony Your Bias is showing again : Is 3AM the beginning or the end of the legal nudity hours? : : The following quote was in today's JJ. : : " The hardball began weeks ago, when photographs surfaced of mayoral candidate Jerramiah Healy, a city councilman, disrobed and slouching on his front stoop at 3 a.m. : : One of Healy's neighbors said he took the photos after he spotted Healy sitting on his front porch in his birthday suit. " : : The claim by Healy that this happened at 3:00 AM is totally false. : : If you go to wwww.hahahealy.com you will see that the picture was taken in broad daylight. The person who took the picture claimed it was taken around 10:30-11:00 Am, not 3 AM. That's why the neighbor took the picture, Healy does this sort of thing all the time and the neighbor was getting sick of it. When the neighbor found out that this exhibitionist wanted to be mayor, well you can understand civic responsibility took over and the neighbor felt it was necessary that voters should be aware when they go to the polls what sort of person Jerry Healy is. Could you image going into a meeting with the mayor, and there he is with no clothes on? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Move away so everyone forgets about you posted Message 8637 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 14:32:53 Subject: Re: Jersey Journal: From defacing signs to dead animals, Jersey City race ratchets it up a notch : From defacing signs to dead animals, Jersey City race ratchets it up a notch : Saturday, October 23, 2004 : By Maria Zingaro Conte and Jason Fink : . . . : The hardball began weeks ago, when photographs surfaced of mayoral candidate Jerramiah Healy, a city councilman, disrobed and slouching on his front stoop at 3 a.m. : One of Healy's neighbors said he took the photos after he spotted Healy sitting on his front porch in his birthday suit. : But a panicked Healy campaign offered up a very different explanation. : The candidate had been out late at a party, Healy spokeswoman Maria Pignataro said. He'd had several drinks - Healy is quoted in a published report estimating the number at between six and eight - and was about to go to bed when he heard a commotion outside his house. : Questioned about whether he should be drinking as a diabetic, he responded: "I am very healthy, considering I'm diabetic. I am still very healthy. If you know about diabetics, you know that they can carry on absolutely fully functional." : Somehow the Healy photos worked their way into the hands of Gerald McCann, a former mayor and a campaign aide to state Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who is also running in the Nov. 2 election. : McCann, who left office in 1991 and went to prison on a federal bank fraud conviction unrelated to his time as mayor, said he showed the photos to "maybe six or seven people" and that he didn't even show them to Manzo. : . . . : To read the complete piece, please click on the Link. This article is so full of it.,Manzo knew exactly whats going on remember everything has to go threw him first to make sure he thinks the slandering is the best.Manzo you need to watch who you are talking in front of specially when the jersey city resident you think is voting for you never said they were.And did not really want that lunch you had payed for that you really got for free.Trying to feed people so they vote for you.Whats that all about. ***************** End Of Article ****************** opwkfodo posted Message 8638 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 14:37:03 Subject: Re: Not for nuthin : Hey, not for nothin but I see Healy more in the neighborhood than I ever saw Manzo. And Manzo is an assemblyman and I never see him in my neighoborhood asking what he can do for us. But I do see Healy asking around about what the neighborhood needs, and he does show up when we ask him to come talk about a problem. : I'm not really into this political thing, but I am going to vote this time cause I'm voting for President. They say Willie can't win, and I want my vote to count. And I do like Healy a little more than Manzo because I don't think the Mayor who went to jail should be back in our city hall. And I think that Mr. Healy really wants to help us, not just build up some kind of power he can use. So I'm voting for Healy. : : Can't we just leave the current acting mayor in until May? Then maybe some serious candidate will run for the four year term. These people are a bunch of a$$holes. She right healy does not need power he has already been there and done that.And he will and is now being there when people want to talk about issues. ***************** End Of Article ****************** lean posted Message 8639 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 14:41:10 Subject: Re: Anthony Your Bias is showing again : : Is 3AM the beginning or the end of the legal nudity hours? : : : The following quote was in today's JJ. : : : " The hardball began weeks ago, when photographs surfaced of mayoral candidate Jerramiah Healy, a city councilman, disrobed and slouching on his front stoop at 3 a.m. : : : One of Healy's neighbors said he took the photos after he spotted Healy sitting on his front porch in his birthday suit. " : : : The claim by Healy that this happened at 3:00 AM is totally false. : : : If you go to wwww.hahahealy.com you will see that the picture was taken in broad daylight. The person who took the picture claimed it was taken around 10:30-11:00 Am, not 3 AM. That's why the neighbor took the picture, Healy does this sort of thing all the time and the neighbor was getting sick of it. When the neighbor found out that this exhibitionist wanted to be mayor, well you can understand civic responsibility took over and the neighbor felt it was necessary that voters should be aware when they go to the polls what sort of person Jerry Healy is. Could you image going into a meeting with the mayor, and there he is with no clothes on? No you are wrong they said 3am. But the bad picture with sunlight everyone figured out. so now you all are changing your stories you are all jokes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Creative Writing 101 posted Message 8640 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 14:47:33 Subject: Jim Kennelly is very talented. JIm, is this from your upcoming novel? : Hey, not for nothin but I see Healy more in the neighborhood than I ever saw Manzo. And Manzo is an assemblyman and I never see him in my neighoborhood asking what he can do for us. But I do see Healy asking around about what the neighborhood needs, and he does show up when we ask him to come talk about a problem. : I'm not really into this political thing, but I am going to vote this time cause I'm voting for President. They say Willie can't win, and I want my vote to count. And I do like Healy a little more than Manzo because I don't think the Mayor who went to jail should be back in our city hall. And I think that Mr. Healy really wants to help us, not just build up some kind of power he can use. So I'm voting for Healy. : : Can't we just leave the current acting mayor in until May? Then maybe some serious candidate will run for the four year term. These people are a bunch of a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** kathy posted Message 8641 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 14:55:39 Subject: Stop cutting down my signs and tresspassin on my property or else Manzo you better stop your men from tresspassing on my property and cutting down my signs. It has been done 5 times after the second time I have taped the front of my house well guess what your guys laughing cutting my signs in half and then cutting down my other signs and taking it with them.Well guess what I have waited to bring them to the police dept. And press charges against these men. Because I had a feeling it was going to happen again so i held the tape.And in it perfect face pictures and autographs of manzo on there clothes. His name in plain view.And on top of it my house has plain view to the street where I got perfect picture of them putting my sign in there trunk.and to top it off color make of car and the license plate number as they pulled away in there get away car that had people inside waiting for them.And yes I will have my camera going 24 hrs a day. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'M PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF THE HCDO posted Message 8642 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 15:52:04 Subject: HEALY THE ONLY NAKE CHOICE THE HCDO PICK THE BEST CANDIDATE FROM J.C. KERRY AND HEALY THE ONLY STUPID CHOICE. GOOD JOB LEADERS....PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRAT. VOTE FOR THE NAKE JUDGE.....GREAT FUTURE FOR OUR CHILDREN, PERFECT EXAMPLE ,DRINK BEERS TILL YOU ARE DRUNK BE NAKE AFTER .THE DEMOCRATIC WAY NO CLOTHES NEED IT TO BE A LEADER 29 INDICTMENTS AND EVERYBODY IS HAPPY LETS KEEP DRINKING...... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stop tresspassing now!!!! posted Message 8643 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 15:57:09 Subject: Re: Stop cutting down my signs and tresspassin on my property or else : Manzo you better stop your men from tresspassing on my property and cutting down my signs. It has been done 5 times after the second time I have taped the front of my house well guess what your guys laughing cutting my signs in half and then cutting down my other signs and taking it with them.Well guess what I have waited to bring them to the police dept. And press charges against these men. Because I had a feeling it was going to happen again so i held the tape.And in it perfect face pictures and autographs of manzo on there clothes. His name in plain view.And on top of it my house has plain view to the street where I got perfect picture of them putting my sign in there trunk.and to top it off color make of car and the license plate number as they pulled away in there get away car that had people inside waiting for them.And yes I will have my camera going 24 hrs a day. The only way to tresspass is if you are nake like my great leader Jerry alfresco Healy. I'm Kathy a proud woman for nake HEALY.... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Captain Birthday Suit posted Message 8644 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 16:00:41 Subject: Re: HEALY THE ONLY NAKE CHOICE I like my mayor's drunk and out of control. Go Healy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jim Cannelly Healy is very nake. posted Message 8645 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 16:01:14 Subject: Re: Jim Kennelly is very talented. : JIm, is this from your upcoming novel? : : Hey, not for nothin but I see Healy more in the neighborhood than I ever saw Manzo. And Manzo is an assemblyman and I never see him in my neighoborhood asking what he can do for us. But I do see Healy asking around about what the neighborhood needs, and he does show up when we ask him to come talk about a problem. : : I'm not really into this political thing, but I am going to vote this time cause I'm voting for President. They say Willie can't win, and I want my vote to count. And I do like Healy a little more than Manzo because I don't think the Mayor who went to jail should be back in our city hall. And I think that Mr. Healy really wants to help us, not just build up some kind of power he can use. So I'm voting for Healy. : : : Can't we just leave the current acting mayor in until May? Then maybe some serious candidate will run for the four year term. These people are a bunch of a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jimmy The Razor posted Message 8646 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 16:02:46 Subject: Re: Stop cutting down my signs and tresspassin on my property or else Take a month and dry out, you alcoholic wench. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Concerned Citizen posted Message 8646 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 16:02:47 Subject: Good for you Kathy !!! These thugs should be locked up !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dumb White Guy posted Message 8647 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 16:05:17 Subject: Re: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive! Sandy's judgement was marred by "Love Machine" Drayton. Besides, Viola, you is one ugly woman! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr Jim not with K ,C of CAN OF BEER CONNELLY posted Message 8647 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 16:05:19 Subject: Re: Jim Kennelly is very talented. : : JIm, is this from your upcoming novel? : : : Hey, not for nothin but I see Healy more in the neighborhood than I ever saw Manzo. And Manzo is an assemblyman and I never see him in my neighoborhood asking what he can do for us. But I do see Healy asking around about what the neighborhood needs, and he does show up when we ask him to come talk about a problem. : : : I'm not really into this political thing, but I am going to vote this time cause I'm voting for President. They say Willie can't win, and I want my vote to count. And I do like Healy a little more than Manzo because I don't think the Mayor who went to jail should be back in our city hall. And I think that Mr. Healy really wants to help us, not just build up some kind of power he can use. So I'm voting for Healy. : : : : Can't we just leave the current acting mayor in until May? Then maybe some serious candidate will run for the four year term. These people are a bunch of a$$holes. GOOD CHOICE CAN-NELLY HEALY WAOOO NAKE... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 8648 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 16:07:45 Subject: I'm gonna hurl !!!! If I see that picture of Willie and Sandy (above) one more time !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** VIOLA STOP THE PROGRESS posted Message 8649 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 16:10:46 Subject: Re: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive! : She is dumb, Sandy should have endorsed me. Instaed she endorses that honkie and now this idiot. I'll get even with you Sandra Dee. I am the new leader in Ward F. All Hail! Viola the ward F people are smart we are voting for HARVEY is the only candidate that CAN win and is not sold out to the HCDO by the priest Bobby and Joe ***************** End Of Article ****************** TERRY ALFIERI posted Message 8650 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 16:21:26 Subject: TRESPASSING TEARING SIGNS OFF HOMES I AM A VOTER IN JERSEY CITY AND A CITIZEN OF THIS GREAT LAND. BUT I AM APALLED AT THE WAY THE MANZO SUPPORTERS ARE TAKING DOWN MY JERRY HEALY SIGNS. IF THIS IS THE WAY MR MANZO IS GOING TO CONDUCT HIMSELF IN OFFICE THEN HE SHOULD NOT BE ELECTED . AND THIS IS WHY FOR CERTAIN NOW I AM VOTING FOR COUNCILMAN HEALY. NO MATTER WHAT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gramps posted Message 8651 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 16:26:10 Subject: Healy's neighborhood WIth all the talk of going outside in a towel, there seems to be some idea that Healy lives in a secluded area. For those not familiar with Ferry Street, Healy has neighbors living immediately next to his house. He's just a few doors down from a CONVENT and just across the street from A CATHOLIC GRAMMAR SCHOOL! ***************** End Of Article ****************** oh yes posted Message 8652 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 17:24:41 Subject: Re: TRESPASSING TEARING SIGNS OFF HOMES Well Terri, how about all the Healy people tearing down signs and the Smith people being paid $2 per sign to tear them down. You tell me how that is any different. I am not saying any of it right but don't single out any one of them because none of them are innocent of it. : I AM A VOTER IN JERSEY CITY AND A CITIZEN OF THIS GREAT LAND. : BUT I AM APALLED AT THE WAY THE MANZO SUPPORTERS ARE TAKING DOWN MY JERRY HEALY SIGNS. IF THIS IS THE WAY MR MANZO IS GOING TO CONDUCT HIMSELF IN OFFICE THEN HE SHOULD NOT BE ELECTED . : AND THIS IS WHY FOR CERTAIN NOW I AM VOTING FOR COUNCILMAN HEALY. : NO MATTER WHAT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I hate fools posted Message 8653 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 17:25:08 Subject: LEARN THE LANGUAGE You are truly pathetic if you believe you are writing the English language. : THE HCDO PICK THE BEST CANDIDATE FROM J.C. : KERRY AND HEALY THE ONLY STUPID CHOICE. GOOD : JOB LEADERS....PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRAT. VOTE : FOR THE NAKE JUDGE.....GREAT FUTURE FOR OUR : CHILDREN, PERFECT EXAMPLE ,DRINK BEERS TILL : YOU ARE DRUNK BE NAKE AFTER .THE DEMOCRATIC WAY NO CLOTHES NEED IT TO BE A LEADER 29 INDICTMENTS AND EVERYBODY IS HAPPY : LETS KEEP DRINKING...... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watchin Sleeze posted Message 8654 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 17:27:58 Subject: Re: TRESPASSING TEARING SIGNS OFF HOMES Ok...tearing down signage is nothing new. But stalking a candidate and taking photos and then retouching them and posting them on the web..... that's sleazy. : Well Terri, how about all the Healy people tearing down signs and the Smith people being paid $2 per sign to tear them down. You tell me how that is any different. I am not saying any of it right but don't single out any one of them because none of them are innocent of it. : : I AM A VOTER IN JERSEY CITY AND A CITIZEN OF THIS GREAT LAND. : : BUT I AM APALLED AT THE WAY THE MANZO SUPPORTERS ARE TAKING DOWN MY JERRY HEALY SIGNS. IF THIS IS THE WAY MR MANZO IS GOING TO CONDUCT HIMSELF IN OFFICE THEN HE SHOULD NOT BE ELECTED . : : AND THIS IS WHY FOR CERTAIN NOW I AM VOTING FOR COUNCILMAN HEALY. : : NO MATTER WHAT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bob M. posted Message 8655 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 17:39:04 Subject: Re: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive! Uncle Harvey should know that we at the HCDO do not purchase damaged goods. : : She is dumb, Sandy should have endorsed me. Instaed she endorses that honkie and now this idiot. I'll get even with you Sandra Dee. I am the new leader in Ward F. All Hail! : Viola the ward F people are smart we are voting for HARVEY : is the only candidate that CAN win and is not sold out to : the HCDO by the priest Bobby and Joe ***************** End Of Article ****************** mark posted Message 8656 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 18:52:31 Subject: Re: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive! : : She is dumb, Sandy should have endorsed me. Instaed she endorses that honkie and now this idiot. I'll get even with you Sandra Dee. I am the new leader in Ward F. All Hail! : Viola the ward F people are smart we are voting for HARVEY : is the only candidate that CAN win and is not sold out to : the HCDO by the priest Bobby and Jo if harvey is not a sell out then why was he at the dinner for the HCDO and bought 20 tickets for the dinner that is to tables so smith and HCDO perfect together at the dinner on thursday in secaucus ***************** End Of Article ****************** steve posted Message 8657 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 18:55:56 Subject: Re: Healy's neighborhood : WIth all the talk of going outside in a towel, there seems to be some idea that Healy lives in a secluded area. : For those not familiar with Ferry Street, Healy has neighbors living immediately next to his house. He's just a few doors down from a CONVENT and just across the street from A CATHOLIC GRAMMAR SCHOOL! but he does not have little kids working for him like manzo does ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here Comes Da Judge posted Message 8658 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 19:01:17 Subject: Next Healy Photo Is " Pop Goes The Weasel " Informed sources describe photos of Healy - Checking His Timex.......... LOL Here Comes Da Judge ***************** End Of Article ****************** pete posted Message 8659 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 19:13:48 Subject: Re: The Honarable Nake Candidate for Mayor : Is the Honorable Judge Jerramiah Healy worth of the trust : of the people of Jersey City ?Sitting alfresco with all his mini parts on the steps of his front porch. Kerry likes his supportes to be NAKE .........Healy admits that this photos : is himself, he had 6to8 beers and lost control , : Healy may lost #$%^&&&&&*****(((((())))))))%%%%@## : CONTROL as mayor and will spouse himself at city hall a : budget meeting or the nake part is only ,part of the campaing to be in tune with the HCDO.Healy run for mayor on his birthday suit with the support of Kerry for President and Corzine as the chief campaing for NJ DEM.....Great Show........ Question IS KERRY OK WITH HEALY ALFRESCO?????????????? you must be friends with manzo qu@@rs stick together you must like littles boy to ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8660 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 19:20:12 Subject: Re: Next Healy Photo Is " Pop Goes The Weasel " : Informed sources describe photos of Healy - Checking His Timex.......... LOL : Here Comes Da Judge he dont cheat he dont steal he dont lie so people vote healy for mayor here comes the judge people healy healy healy healy the right man the only man healy healy healy healy ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy Has No Shame ! posted Message 8661 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 20:38:35 Subject: Perverted Drunk - What a Disgrace : Informed sources describe photos of Healy - Checking His Timex.......... LOL : Here Comes Da Judge ***************** End Of Article ****************** UNKNOWN posted Message 8662 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 21:25:20 Subject: Re: MANZO SIGNS : STARTING THIS MONDAY THERE WONT BE A MANZO SIGN STANDING BY THE END OF THE WEEK. INCLUDING JIMMY KINGS AND THE ONE HE THINKS WE CANT GET ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING WITH THE PIC OF LOU . : HEY JIMMY EVER HEAR OF HIGH PRESSURE PAINT BALL GUNS HA HA HA ! : SO MANZO SIGN MEN BEWARE THE RONNIE COPS ARE WATCHING YOU . : YOU TOO PETE BARON. HA HA HA!! : SIGNED : THE TERMINATOR. NO MORE MCMANZO ***************** End Of Article ****************** What Does he Have in His hand? posted Message 8663 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 21:31:17 Subject: Healy Next photo he don't ... etc, etc, he just likes to play with himself,,, in the nude,,,,in public,,,, HE COMEs DAH Judge, the voters of JC. Bye Bye Healy, Hah! Hah! Hah : : Informed sources describe photos of Healy - Checking His Timex.......... LOL : : Here Comes Da Judge he dont cheat he dont steal he dont lie so people vote healy for mayor here comes the judge people healy healy healy healy : the right man the only man healy healy healy healy ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Doesn't Care posted Message 8664 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 21:33:35 Subject: Re: Healy's neighborhood He has no shame. Maybe he is troubled because his lightening rod is so small. Is Healy part Phillipino? What a disgrace. sad, very sad. WIth all the talk of going outside in a towel, there seems to be some idea that Healy lives in a secluded area. : For those not familiar with Ferry Street, Healy has neighbors living immediately next to his house. He's just a few doors down from a CONVENT and just across the street from A CATHOLIC GRAMMAR SCHOOL! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Unknown posted Message 8665 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 21:35:55 Subject: Re: Cunningham's winning streak starts after DORF was fired So you think Dorf will run for a political office soon ... It seems doubtful that he would get back into politics. He would make a great candidate for a political office if he did run - Perhaps one day "Dorf for Mayor" - or even "Dorf for President" Bet he would do an outstanding job. He would no doubt promote himself with his outstanding PR skills! Also he does have a good sense for investing and has alot to show for himself. For a young guy, he has done alot and has alot to show for himself. Wishing him the best in whatever venture he does. : Dorf is a decent guy who got involved with some lousy scum like Bill Ayala who : smear people he can't intellectually beat. Ayala and the low-life scum like him that : surround Cunningham are so pathetic that they strikeout at a guy with integrity that : they can't compromise. Dorf has always worked hard and unfortunately never got : the HC politicians he worked for to recognize his talents. He was great at : PR for everyone but himself. HIS ONE FATAL FLAW. But I understand that he basically : told Gunningham's pathetic crew to blow away. And he has always been smart : enough to invest wisely, so I am sure he will a bright and prosperous future. : Perhaps we will be fortunate to rid ourselves of GDC and his crew...and perhaps : Dorf will return with a victorious opponent next year. : : So what is the real scoop on this Dorf guy! Did he really get fired? Did he really put : his nose into others business? Does he really live off daddy's money? Are these : groupies that have written such positive stuff about him just love sick goo goo eyed : puppies for this guy? What is the real scoop on this Dorf guy? Tell me please : : : : : :: I thought his hair & goatee made him look like a potential candidate for the : lead in a revival of Damn Yankees. : : : : : : : : : : : Is it a coincidence that once Brian Dorf was fired that Cunningham has been : on a winning streak? : : : : Hmmmm .. I believe someone is totally out of touch because Brian's hair and : goatee are very nice and he wears them very well .. I do find your childish comments : extremely immature and disgusting and hope your political campaign goes down : the political pipes of Jersey really fast : : : I believe the childish and disgusting remarks made about Brian Dorf's appearance : are just typical of the childish behavior that Ayala and all the other idiots pathetic : losers that are on this campaign. From what I see, Brian Dorf is an utmost : professional classy guy with a great look and great mind. His hair and goatee make : him a very handsome and distinguished gentleman. He is sharp, independent, a : great writer, and very professional. I hope that Ayala will soon go down the political : pipes of jersey city ... ***************** End Of Article ****************** the message posted Message 8666 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 21:37:36 Subject: its not the language its No! you are pathetic, the last post might no be eloquent but the messae comes across loud and clear and it is the truth. The HCDO is a rotten, festeing, canerous growth that needs to be cleansed, from inside out. The defeat of Healy is the first step in the cleansing process. You are truly pathetic if you believe you are writing the English language. : : THE HCDO PICK THE BEST CANDIDATE FROM J.C. : : KERRY AND HEALY THE ONLY STUPID CHOICE. GOOD : : JOB LEADERS....PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRAT. VOTE : : FOR THE NAKE JUDGE.....GREAT FUTURE FOR OUR : : CHILDREN, PERFECT EXAMPLE ,DRINK BEERS TILL : : YOU ARE DRUNK BE NAKE AFTER .THE DEMOCRATIC WAY NO CLOTHES NEED IT TO BE A LEADER 29 INDICTMENTS AND EVERYBODY IS HAPPY : : LETS KEEP DRINKING...... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Their called the HCDO posted Message 8667 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 21:38:36 Subject: Lock up the thugs : These thugs should be locked up !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** jjj posted Message 8668 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 21:38:55 Subject: Re: Manzo is Not Gay/He wants jersey to think hes not ha ha ha So is he gay or is he straight? or does he go both ways? : : The following quote by Lou Manzo, the leading candidate for mayor: : : " On a more personal level, Manzo, who is unmarried, said recent television ads have insinuated that he is gay. : : He said he is not and, though he made a point of noting that sexual orientation should not make a difference in a political campaign, he nevertheless characterized it as attack politics. : : "That type of slime doesn't have a place in politics," he said. "I am a heterosexual. If I wasn't heterosexual it shouldn't make a difference if I was running for mayor." : : So all you Healy Homophobes out there better watch out if you continue to slander Lou. We know who you are, and we will track you down back to your spider holes. : : yeah right manzo I am one of your neighbors and I see little boys going in to your house all the time.The nasty politics you are talking about are coming from you playing dirty.tell everyone what you been doing.I believe they would like to know.Maybe you would like to start with what pete Baron has been doing every night.Trespassing etc.That can but you in jail.Right manzo start confessing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vote for Lou Manzo's, Glenn's Running Mate posted Message 8669 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 21:39:38 Subject: Re: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive! : She is dumb, Sandy should have endorsed me. Instaed she endorses that honkie and now this idiot. I'll get even with you Sandra Dee. I am the new leader in Ward F. All Hail! ***************** End Of Article ****************** kkk posted Message 8670 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 21:40:12 Subject: Re: Perverted Drunk - What a Disgrace : : Informed sources describe photos of Healy - Checking His Timex.......... LOL : : Here Comes Da Judge Here come da judge to arrest this perverted drunken loser ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yeah! He's the Only Person Who can Drink Healy Under the Table posted Message 8671 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 21:42:30 Subject: Re: Jim Kennelly is very talented. Kennelley lives in a fanasy world, he's not sober most of the time. i guess that's good for most of the people who are unfortunate enough to have to deal with him every day. : JIm, is this from your upcoming novel? : : Hey, not for nothin but I see Healy more in the neighborhood than I ever saw Manzo. And Manzo is an assemblyman and I never see him in my neighoborhood asking what he can do for us. But I do see Healy asking around about what the neighborhood needs, and he does show up when we ask him to come talk about a problem. : : I'm not really into this political thing, but I am going to vote this time cause I'm voting for President. They say Willie can't win, and I want my vote to count. And I do like Healy a little more than Manzo because I don't think the Mayor who went to jail should be back in our city hall. And I think that Mr. Healy really wants to help us, not just build up some kind of power he can use. So I'm voting for Healy. : : : Can't we just leave the current acting mayor in until May? Then maybe some serious candidate will run for the four year term. These people are a bunch of a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** hank posted Message 8672 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 21:45:23 Subject: Re: Healy's neighborhood : : WIth all the talk of going outside in a towel, there seems to be some idea that Healy lives in a secluded area. : : For those not familiar with Ferry Street, Healy has neighbors living immediately next to his house. He's just a few doors down from a CONVENT and just across the street from A CATHOLIC GRAMMAR SCHOOL! but he does not have little kids working for him like manzo does ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 8673 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 21:50:39 Subject: Jim Kennelly is my hero !!! If you guys hate him so much he must be cool !!! : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Angry Mom posted Message 8674 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 22:14:40 Subject: Keep Healy Away From My Kids This perverted alcoholic is a neighborhood nightmare. I have warned my boys to stay away from Ferry Street and the Healy stoop. Something must be done about this. : : : Informed sources describe photos of Healy - Checking His Timex.......... LOL : : : Here Comes Da Judge : Here come da judge to arrest this perverted drunken loser ***************** End Of Article ****************** justin posted Message 8675 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 23:14:43 Subject: all this mud just remembe who started all this sh*t... healy tried getting ray manzo to run for mayor. thats what started all this and dont tell me he didnt know ray was going to do it.alot of people knew and healy was in on it or he was too dumb to figure it out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** kokie posted Message 8676 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 23:25:39 Subject: REFORM GOVERNMENT NOW = LIPSKI aLL OTHERS ARE CHUMPS OR DIRTBAGS ***************** End Of Article ****************** dailleztbabyboy posted Message 8677 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 23:27:00 Subject: LIPSKI STAY FOCUSED YOU'RE ALMOST THERE wE SUPORT STEVE LIPSKI ***************** End Of Article ****************** Casual observer posted Message 8678 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 23:28:22 Subject: Re: REFORM GOVERNMENT NOW = LIPSKI : aLL OTHERS ARE CHUMPS OR DIRTBAGS Lipski is working hard and gaining momentum. Watch out if others explode. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WWF posted Message 8679 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 23:30:17 Subject: Healy vs. Manzo cage match - LIPSKI wins Children must play, but a real man works. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ggunit32687 posted Message 8680 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 23:31:30 Subject: Posts about candidates horrible This is beyond mud slinging. It's bad. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GOPer posted Message 8681 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 23:33:09 Subject: LIPSKI like Schundler will win because of Republicans and undecideds Go Schundler and Lipski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Latino posted Message 8682 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 23:34:17 Subject: Re: LIPSKI picks up Hispanic vote too : Go Schundler and Lipski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Citizen's Watchgroup posted Message 8683 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 23:35:27 Subject: Re: 4000 Charter school families go Lipski : : Go Schundler and Lipski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Peace person posted Message 8684 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 23:36:26 Subject: Mud? Bricks and bullets Election is filthy ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 8685 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 23, 2004 at 23:56:07 Subject: Go to Hell .. Schundler, Lipski and Bush ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** All the Candidates Will Agree on that one posted Message 8686 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 00:35:01 Subject: Re: Go to Hell .. : Schundler, Lipski and Bush ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** it's Jersey City posted Message 8687 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 00:35:49 Subject: Re: Posts about candidates horrible : This is beyond mud slinging. It's bad. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Think He will be Moving To Greenwich Village posted Message 8688 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 00:37:27 Subject: Re: Healy's neighborhood : : : WIth all the talk of going outside in a towel, there seems to be some idea that Healy lives in a secluded area. : : : For those not familiar with Ferry Street, Healy has neighbors living immediately next to his house. He's just a few doors down from a CONVENT and just across the street from A CATHOLIC GRAMMAR SCHOOL! but he does not have little kids working for him like manzo does ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joanna posted Message 8689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 00:40:53 Subject: MANSOUR FOR MAYOR! Here are some of the things Hosam Mansour has on is fliers: 1. Reassesment of all previous tax abatments and long term plan to get rid of them. 2. Third-party auditing of government funds to see where the wastage is occuring. 3. Campaign to increase neightboorhood watch programs and train individuals to police their own neighborhoods. 4. Campaign finance reforms: People should win elections based on ideas, not how many signs they have out there. 5. Keeping citizens aware of whats going on in the government with the publishing of a city wide newsletter. 6. Require all cops and EMT to learn a few key words in the major foreign languages here in Jersey City to save lives. 7. Create a city department of consumer protection. 8. Create a Mayoral Avisory Council made up of community leaders and activists. 9. Develop networks with activists in other cities in the vicinity to create a powerful lobbying force for regional issues. 10......((I will post rest at a later time)). I urge everyone to look into the less known candidates. Many of them have great ideas that are ignored because they don't have enough money to send the 150,000 registered voters mailers. Also, why aren't people demanding to here more issues from the candidates. I'm tired of hearing: "I'm gonna get rid of crime" or "I'm gonna clean the streets." I want to hear some real ideas, not just the same phony ones. I've heard Healy talk about a total of 3 things...Smith 3 or 4....Flood none....Lipski 2 or 3 (by the way, lipski is the only councilman to veto an anti-iraqi war resolution...which tells me a lot about what he stands for)...Manzo 4......come on guys...demand more from these candidates. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joanna posted Message 8690 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 00:41:43 Subject: Look into the Other Candidates (non-political ones) Here are some of the things Hosam Mansour has on is fliers: 1. Reassesment of all previous tax abatments and long term plan to get rid of them. 2. Third-party auditing of government funds to see where the wastage is occuring. 3. Campaign to increase neightboorhood watch programs and train individuals to police their own neighborhoods. 4. Campaign finance reforms: People should win elections based on ideas, not how many signs they have out there. 5. Keeping citizens aware of whats going on in the government with the publishing of a city wide newsletter. 6. Require all cops and EMT to learn a few key words in the major foreign languages here in Jersey City to save lives. 7. Create a city department of consumer protection. 8. Create a Mayoral Avisory Council made up of community leaders and activists. 9. Develop networks with activists in other cities in the vicinity to create a powerful lobbying force for regional issues. 10......((I will post rest at a later time)). I urge everyone to look into the less known candidates. Many of them have great ideas that are ignored because they don't have enough money to send the 150,000 registered voters mailers. Also, why aren't people demanding to here more issues from the candidates. I'm tired of hearing: "I'm gonna get rid of crime" or "I'm gonna clean the streets." I want to hear some real ideas, not just the same phony ones. I've heard Healy talk about a total of 3 things...Smith 3 or 4....Flood none....Lipski 2 or 3 (by the way, lipski is the only councilman to veto an anti-iraqi war resolution...which tells me a lot about what he stands for)...Manzo 4......come on guys...demand more from these candidates. ***************** End Of Article ****************** There Was No Dirty Politics With Schundler! posted Message 8691 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 03:15:00 Subject: Spoken Like A True Dirty Campaigner When you have nothing intelligent to say, you say things like "Go to hell." Thanks to campaigners like you, the city IS going to hell! I've always been a proud Jersey City resident, but dirty politics, indicted officials and corruption always made me feel ashamed to tell outsiders I was from here because they'd laugh and say, isn't your Mayor/County Exec/Freeholder in jail? During the Schundler administration, we got some pride back. People WANTED to move here, not move out. On election day, my entire family will be supporting Steve Lipski because he's refrained from the dirty politics which have been so prevalent in both the Manzo & Healy campaigns. Bring pride back to Jersey City. Vote for a clean campaigner and energetic guy...Steve Lipski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** gross posted Message 8692 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 06:36:55 Subject: Re: Jerry Healy tried to say Vote for Ray Manzo : Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. ) Sounds like he's been hanging out with Ted Kennedy Well, at least he didn't take a dump on the sidewalk ***************** End Of Article ****************** equal opportunity posted Message 8693 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 06:51:48 Subject: ray charles first of all i moved to jersey city 2 years ago and registered to vote at that time. saturday i recieved a post card in my mail box from harvey smith. i wonder if harvey understands the meaning of all ? the reason i ask this question has to do with the tenure of his message. apparently all means only african americans. if this political message came from a white or hispanic candidate it would be called racist by the same harvey smith. 4 questions for mr.smith 1 if an african american were to vote for a hispanic or white candidate do you consider them a traitor to you. 2 can you tell me why is it wrong for willie flood to run for mayor she has as much a right to run for office as you. 3 do you think it funny to belittle ray charles a dead man for his handicap. 4 you know you don't have a chance so give it up ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nunez for Mayor posted Message 8694 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 08:20:06 Subject: Re: MANSOUR FOR MAYOR! I'm voting for Hilario Nunez because he has the freshest ideas and is not tied to the HCDO or the Reform Dems. : Here are some of the things Hosam Mansour has on is fliers: : 1. Reassesment of all previous tax abatments and long term plan to get rid of them. : 2. Third-party auditing of government funds to see where the wastage is occuring. : 3. Campaign to increase neightboorhood watch programs and train individuals to police their own neighborhoods. : 4. Campaign finance reforms: People should win elections based on ideas, not how many signs they have out there. : 5. Keeping citizens aware of whats going on in the government with the publishing of a city wide newsletter. : 6. Require all cops and EMT to learn a few key words in the major foreign languages here in Jersey City to save lives. : 7. Create a city department of consumer protection. : 8. Create a Mayoral Avisory Council made up of community leaders and activists. : 9. Develop networks with activists in other cities in the vicinity to create a powerful lobbying force for regional issues. : 10......((I will post rest at a later time)). : I urge everyone to look into the less known candidates. Many of them have great ideas that are ignored because they don't have enough money to send the 150,000 registered voters mailers. Also, why aren't people demanding to here more issues from the candidates. I'm tired of hearing: "I'm gonna get rid of crime" or "I'm gonna clean the streets." I want to hear some real ideas, not just the same phony ones. I've heard Healy talk about a total of 3 things...Smith 3 or 4....Flood none....Lipski 2 or 3 (by the way, lipski is the only councilman to veto an anti-iraqi war resolution...which tells me a lot about what he stands for)...Manzo 4......come on guys...demand more from these candidates. ***************** End Of Article ****************** my hometown posted Message 8695 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 08:50:39 Subject: Re: MANSOUR FOR MAYOR! If any arab I would vote for, It will be Mahar Khalil. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RICO Laws posted Message 8696 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 09:05:56 Subject: HCDO Crime Family in Action Menendez with Xanadu.Kenny with Joe Barry.DeGise And Gaughan with nepotism.Go figure. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Richie K posted Message 8697 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 10:09:57 Subject: Dump Doria Now! Don't lose sight that there's an important Senate race. Anthony Chiappone is a stand-up guy so please vote for him! It's time to Dump Doria Now! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Islam Out of America posted Message 8698 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 10:15:18 Subject: Re: MANSOUR FOR MAYOR! Mansour is a piece of rubbish, as are all muslims. This piece of sh*t is out there slamming our efforts in Iraq, and never once addressed Islamic terrorism. And do you know why? Because, as a muslim, he follows the koran, that hate filled collection of toilet paper written by the prophet of mass murder. In the koran it is stated over and over that ALL PEOPLE must submit to Islam, or die. But, sneaky, lying Arab that he is, you'll never get him to admit it. Islam and Mansour are malignancies. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Love Lipski posted Message 8699 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 10:17:55 Subject: Re: LIPSKI like Schundler will win because of Republicans and undecideds I am a developer and I whole heartedly endorse Lipski. He is the only candidate that will give Jersey City away to us. ***************** End Of Article ****************** my hometown posted Message 8700 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 10:18:54 Subject: Islam Out of America on : Mansour is a piece of rubbish, as are all muslims. This piece of sh*t is out there slamming our efforts in Iraq, and never once addressed Islamic terrorism. And do you know why? Because, as a muslim, he follows the koran, that hate filled collection of toilet paper written by the prophet of mass murder. In the koran it is stated over and over that ALL PEOPLE must submit to Islam, or die. But, sneaky, lying Arab that he is, you'll never get him to admit it. : Islam and Mansour are malignancies. I agree but Mahar is a Coptic christain. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Takin A Peep posted Message 8701 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 10:20:56 Subject: Re: Keep Healy Away From My Kids The worst thing about the nude photo of Healy is that it reveals that he is hung like an insect. We need a mayor with much bigger balls ***************** End Of Article ****************** Greg's a Douchebag posted Message 8702 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 10:22:55 Subject: Re: How did he keep his job under Cunningham ? Greg is a hack zero. What side of the fence is he on now. No doubt is blowing several horns ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mayor posted Message 8703 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 10:46:56 Subject: We Love you Steve!!!!!!!! Vote for Steve!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 8704 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 12:02:59 Subject: Re: Keep Healy Away From My Kids /Lady you are out of your mind you need to wake up. : This perverted alcoholic is a neighborhood nightmare. : I have warned my boys to stay away from Ferry Street and the Healy stoop. : Something must be done about this. : : : : : Informed sources describe photos of Healy - Checking His Timex.......... LOL : : : : Here Comes Da Judge : : Here come da judge to arrest this perverted drunken loser You are worried about what you claim is a drunk that is a joke.Why would you be adding pervert to him that would be manzo. sorry you have the wrong canidate. So I guess it is ok that your sons are coming in and out of manzos house a know gay person who has young boys come in and out of his house.No there is nothing wrong with gay people thats there choice.But when little boys are in his house for hours it makes you wonder he sure ain't making them dinner. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 8705 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 12:05:04 Subject: Re: Keep Healy Away From My Kids : The worst thing about the nude photo of Healy is that it reveals that he is hung like an insect. We need a mayor with much bigger balls I guess you were taking a good look at that fake picture. You must be with manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 8706 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 12:08:56 Subject: Re: Healy's neighborhood : : He has no shame. Maybe he is troubled because his lightening rod is so small. Is Healy part Phillipino? What a disgrace. sad, very sad. : WIth all the talk of going outside in a towel, there seems to be some idea that Healy lives in a secluded area. : : For those not familiar with Ferry Street, Healy has neighbors living immediately next to his house. He's just a few doors down from a CONVENT and just across the street from A CATHOLIC GRAMMAR SCHOOL!what do you have problems with philipines bias. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joanna posted Message 8707 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 13:59:24 Subject: Re: MANSOUR FOR MAYOR! Thats great. I'm glad to see people looking into the other candidates. Can you please tell me a little more on Nunez. Does he have a website? Thanks. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 8708 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 16:06:50 Subject: Channel NewsAsia: Republicans and Democrats focus on handful of battle ground states Republicans and Democrats focus on handful of battle ground states By Channel NewsAsia's US Correspondent Nathan King NEW JERSEY : As the US presidential race enters its final phase, both the Republicans and Democrats are focusing on a handful of battle ground states that can secure the White House for their candidates. Florida is one, and the Mid-West states are also in play. Also on the list - one traditionally democratic state - New Jersey. Situated next to New York City, New Jersey was hit hard by the attacks of September 11th 2001 and the latest polls are unsettling for the democrats It is called the garden state but the presidential race in New Jersey is proving to be far from rosy for the Democrats. Just across the river from Manhattan, many New Jersey residents were among those killed in the attacks on the World Trade Centre and thousands more lost their livelihoods. President George W. Bush's security credentials are making a difference there Democrats still dominate this state but the small band of republicans are pulling out all the stops there Pressing the flesh in Downtown Jersey City is Republican Jose Arango. His job is to try and deliver this county state for Bush come November 2. Jose Arango, Chairman of Hudson County Republican, said, "Even though this area is a big democratic stronghold, at the same time people realise that the security of the nation and the security of our neighborhoods are important because they saw with their eyes what the terrorists and Al-Qaeda was able to do." But as well as being just across the river from the sites of the World Trade Centre attacks there may be other reasons why New Jersey is a swing state in this Presidential election. The New Jersey governor announced recently that he was gay and a scandal involving an explorer has polarised this state. New Jersey is also changing demographically - blue collar union jobs are giving way to financial and professional ones. But in our own straw poll we found John Kerry still has a lot of support there just days away from polling "Policies that he is trying to implement will be good for America, good for the working class, and most of all I just think he is the better person".. One recent poll ties President Bush with Senator John Kerry at 49 percent each. Other polls put Kerry slightly ahead - but in New Jersey as it is nationally, it is still too close to call. The Garden State is proving to be no picnic for either party in this presidential race. - CNA ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMES GALDINI posted Message 8709 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 17:49:36 Subject: HEALY IS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR OUR CITY. JERRAMIAH HEALY IS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR OF OUR BELOVED JERSEY CITY HE HAS THE PEOPLE RICH OR PORR AT HEART AND IS NOT LOOKING FOR THE POWER. HE LIVES HERE AND RAISED HIS CHILDREN HERE AND DESPITE ALL THE SMUT RUMORS IN THIS BOARD . HE IS RISING ABOVE IT FOR EVERY NEGATIVE THING POSTED AND WRITTEN ABOUT HIM HE JUMPS IN THE POLLS. SO STAY NEGATIVE ON HIM AND YOU WILL HELP HIM BECOME MAYOR NEXT TUESDAY. GOD BLESS AMERICA & JERRAMIAH HEALY A GENTLEMAN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8710 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 18:05:29 Subject: Re: HEALY IS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR OUR CITY. : JERRAMIAH HEALY IS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR OF OUR BELOVED JERSEY CITY HE HAS THE PEOPLE RICH OR PORR AT HEART AND IS NOT LOOKING FOR THE POWER. HE LIVES HERE AND RAISED HIS CHILDREN HERE AND DESPITE ALL THE SMUT RUMORS IN THIS BOARD . : HE IS RISING ABOVE IT FOR EVERY NEGATIVE THING POSTED AND WRITTEN ABOUT HIM HE JUMPS IN THE POLLS. : SO STAY NEGATIVE ON HIM AND YOU WILL HELP HIM BECOME MAYOR NEXT TUESDAY. GOD BLESS AMERICA & JERRAMIAH HEALY A GENTLEMAN. you are dam rite he is the best man for mayor he dont lie he dont cheat he dont steal ***************** End Of Article ****************** john posted Message 8711 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 18:08:41 Subject: manzo on fox 5 news tonite at 10 o'clock news on fox 5 manzo coming out of the closet that he is gay ***************** End Of Article ****************** Children Beware Of Known Pervert posted Message 8712 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 18:28:06 Subject: ** Halloween Warning** Healy Home 109 Ferry Street All Children going door to door this Halloween should be advised to avoid the Healy House at 109 Ferry Street. Healy is an admitted alcoholic and nudist. Children should avoid the Healy stoop - Healy is lower than low What has become of our town ?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nunez for Mayor posted Message 8713 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 18:32:22 Subject: NUNEZ FOR MAYOR! I don't know if he has a website but I'm guessing that he doesn't. Minor candidates don't get any of the funding that the major candidates do and so everything has to come out of their pockets. If your not a rich man, you don't get squat and can't afford squat. I've heard Nunez speak at one mayoral debate and then read more on him in the Jersey Journal. I was impressed by his ideas. Their fresh, on point and workable. The best part about him is that he isn't tied to the HCDO, JCDO nor the HCRDO. I'll take anyone who isn't part of these gangs of thieves. : Thats great. I'm glad to see people looking into the other candidates. Can you please tell me a little more on Nunez. Does he have a website? Thanks ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8714 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 19:07:30 Subject: Re: ** Halloween Warning** Healy Home 109 Ferry Street : All Children going door to door this Halloween should be advised to avoid the Healy House at 109 Ferry Street. : Healy is an admitted alcoholic and nudist. Children should avoid the Healy stoop - Healy is lower than low : What has become of our town ?? you must be thinking about your fathers house the fag that he is you are a A$$HOLE ***************** End Of Article ****************** RICCO posted Message 8715 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 19:12:52 Subject: halloween marning children beware stay away from lou manzo a known fag giving candy to littles kids to lure them in to his house ***************** End Of Article ****************** john posted Message 8716 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 19:23:03 Subject: manzo halloween party october 30 manzo will be holding his halloween party at ram rods bar in the village all welcome and dont for get to wear your halloween costume ***************** End Of Article ****************** sam posted Message 8717 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 19:28:57 Subject: harvey smith at the HCDO dinner harvey smith had two tables at the dinner for the hcdo thats 20 people he paid for to go to the party so i think he belongs to the hcdo to ***************** End Of Article ****************** Save The Children posted Message 8718 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 19:33:48 Subject: Re: ** Halloween Warning** Healy Home 109 Ferry Street Keep them away from "Naked Jerry." The man is drunk and out of control! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey is a sellout Ho posted Message 8719 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 19:47:03 Subject: Re: harvey smith at the HCDO dinner Harvey knows he ain't gonna be the mayor for too long so he's looking to setup his paycheck for the next ? years. Harvey, you are a disgrace. : harvey smith had two tables at the dinner for the hcdo thats 20 people he paid for to go to the party so i think he belongs to the hcdo to ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerryHealy will be taking it up the A$$ posted Message 8720 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 19:49:32 Subject: Re: manzo halloween party Come one c_um all! jerry and his low life scum side kick Tony A$$mobile will be there to accomodate those interested in a little side acition. : october 30 manzo will be holding his halloween party at ram rods bar in the village all welcome and dont for get to wear your halloween costume ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry healy posted Message 8721 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 19:52:33 Subject: Re: halloween Watch out for Watch out kidies, Jerry Healy the shill for the HCDO will be trying to get your parents to vote for Jerry Healy and to try and take away your innocents. Watch out kiddies! especially of any one called Menendes or Disguist. : children beware stay away from lou manzo a known fag giving candy to littles kids to lure them in to his house ***************** End Of Article ****************** he will offer candy to take advantage of you! posted Message 8722 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 19:53:44 Subject: Re: ** Halloween Warning** Healy Home 109 Ferry Street : Keep them away from "Naked Jerry." The man is drunk and out of control! ***************** End Of Article ****************** To warn the kids of JC of Predator Healy posted Message 8723 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 19:55:54 Subject: Re: manzo on fox 5 news Jerry Healy ... beware children of JC. : tonite at 10 o'clock news on fox 5 manzo coming out of the closet that he is gay ***************** End Of Article ****************** How Can Anyone Vote for this Degenerate? posted Message 8724 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 19:58:43 Subject: Re: ** Halloween Warning** Healy After all the dirt that has come out about Jerry Healy, how can anyone with a pulse vote for this degenerate? Of course the low-life scum on the HC payroll will be voting for him, that goes without saying. Tony A$$ Hole are you listening? All Children going door to door this Halloween should be advised to avoid the Healy House at 109 Ferry Street. : Healy is an admitted alcoholic and nudist. Children should avoid the Healy stoop - Healy is lower than low : What has become of our town ?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Children of JC Stay Away from Ferry St on Halloween! posted Message 8725 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 20:00:44 Subject: He Just Has a Problem Keeping His Clothes On Jerry is a j_erk. : : JERRAMIAH HEALY IS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR OF OUR BELOVED JERSEY CITY HE HAS THE PEOPLE RICH OR PORR AT HEART AND IS NOT LOOKING FOR THE POWER. HE LIVES HERE AND RAISED HIS CHILDREN HERE AND DESPITE ALL THE SMUT RUMORS IN THIS BOARD . : : HE IS RISING ABOVE IT FOR EVERY NEGATIVE THING POSTED AND WRITTEN ABOUT HIM HE JUMPS IN THE POLLS. : : SO STAY NEGATIVE ON HIM AND YOU WILL HELP HIM BECOME MAYOR NEXT TUESDAY. GOD BLESS AMERICA & JERRAMIAH HEALY A GENTLEMAN. : you are dam rite he is the best man for mayor he dont lie he dont cheat he dont steal ***************** End Of Article ****************** They Don't Care posted Message 8726 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 20:04:19 Subject: Re: HCDO Crime Family in Action They are taking in cAsh every day. They will keepdoing it until they ae caught . then they will make a deal with the prosecutor to keep 90% of the money they stole and walk away into the sun, so their progeny can take over. These bastards ought to be hung on Journal Square. : Menendez with Xanadu.Kenny with Joe Barry.DeGise And Gaughan with nepotism.Go figure. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jack Me Off posted Message 8727 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 20:13:25 Subject: Mouthsoar for Mayor The c0ck$ucker Mansour should be banned. He $ucks Manzo's C0CK and he is in it to get Looney Lou to come in his mouth! ***************** End Of Article ****************** betty v, posted Message 8728 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 20:24:18 Subject: Re: Keep The Cunningham legacy alive! viola is a dumb black cow, with her nasty hair and her ugly face. she will not be re-elected. she will say she is not going to run for office again, only because jersey city has poked holes in all her lies. hail to you viola. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 8729 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 20:34:46 Subject: Chiappone is a loser ! He has no money and no minority backing this time. He won't get support for reelection to the Assembly either. Stick a fork in him he's done ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kathy, you are a liar posted Message 8730 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 20:44:03 Subject: Re: Stop cutting down my signs and tresspassin on my property or else ::::You haven't got anything. Cause if you did you wouldn't be on this board telling Manzo to stop especially after 5 times. You HCDO people are true A$$holes. : : Manzo you better stop your men from tresspassing on my property and cutting down my signs. It has been done 5 times after the second time I have taped the front of my house well guess what your guys laughing cutting my signs in half and then cutting down my other signs and taking it with them.Well guess what I have waited to bring them to the police dept. And press charges against these men. Because I had a feeling it was going to happen again so i held the tape.And in it perfect face pictures and autographs of manzo on there clothes. His name in plain view.And on top of it my house has plain view to the street where I got perfect picture of them putting my sign in there trunk.and to top it off color make of car and the license plate number as they pulled away in there get away car that had people inside waiting for them.And yes I will have my camera going 24 hrs a day. : The only way to tresspass is if you are nake like my great leader Jerry alfresco Healy. I'm Kathy a proud woman for nake HEALY.... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that most of the HCDO posters post in caps, can't spell, punctuate or put a sentence together. One may hazard a guess that IT IS THE SAME PATHETIC PERSON POSTING! HAHAHAHA posted Message 8731 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 20:48:38 Subject: Re: TRESPASSING TEARING SIGNS OFF HOMES : I AM A VOTER IN JERSEY CITY AND A CITIZEN OF THIS GREAT LAND. : BUT I AM APALLED AT THE WAY THE MANZO SUPPORTERS ARE TAKING DOWN MY JERRY HEALY SIGNS. IF THIS IS THE WAY MR MANZO IS GOING TO CONDUCT HIMSELF IN OFFICE THEN HE SHOULD NOT BE ELECTED . : AND THIS IS WHY FOR CERTAIN NOW I AM VOTING FOR COUNCILMAN HEALY. : NO MATTER WHAT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** sam posted Message 8732 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 20:49:13 Subject: manzo on fox 5 news tonite tonite on fox 5 news state assemblyman lou manzo will be announcing that he is gay he finaly is coming out of the closet ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8733 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 20:52:11 Subject: manzo halloween party manzo will be holding his halloween party in ram rods in the village in new york city all welcome must wear your costume ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8734 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 20:55:30 Subject: halloween warning to the people of jersey city on halloween keep your kids away from lou manzo he is giving kids candy to lure them in to his house ***************** End Of Article ****************** And today on fox 5 news, sam will announce that he has learned to use the caps on his keyboard and spellcheck. posted Message 8735 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 20:59:27 Subject: Re: manzo on fox 5 news tonite : tonite on fox 5 news state assemblyman lou manzo will be announcing that he is gay he finaly is coming out of the closet ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just a little curious posted Message 8736 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 21:04:03 Subject: Did they get full credit or was this like an elective Yesterday, I saw young kids (14-17) giving out Lipski literature on Central Ave. I passed his club on Summit near Magnolia and saw a couple of dozen young kids there. Obviously, Mr. Lipski is using his students to walk the streets for him. Good voter base you got there. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anything IS Possible posted Message 8737 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 21:04:44 Subject: Screen Candy For Healy's Hair !!!!!!! : : All Children going door to door this Halloween should be advised to avoid the Healy House at 109 Ferry Street. : : Healy is an admitted alcoholic and nudist. Children should avoid the Healy stoop - Healy is lower than low : : What has become of our town ?? you must be thinking about your fathers house the fag that he is you are a A$$HOLE ***************** End Of Article ****************** Outsider posted Message 8738 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 21:23:31 Subject: Re: Did they get full credit or was this like an elective Actually, if these kids were his students it's a good thing. Maybe when they can vote they will actually take a positive role in the election process. Looks like Lipski is providing the kids with a very good civics lesson. They are getting to see what kind of scum bags are working in other campaigns. : Yesterday, I saw young kids (14-17) giving out Lipski literature on Central Ave. I passed his club on Summit near Magnolia and saw a couple of dozen young kids there. : Obviously, Mr. Lipski is using his students to walk the streets for him. : Good voter base you got there. : HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ***************** End Of Article ****************** Outsider posted Message 8739 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 21:30:18 Subject: Re: HEALY IS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR OUR CITY. Just curious, do gentleman always sit out front naked? : JERRAMIAH HEALY IS THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR OF OUR BELOVED JERSEY CITY HE HAS THE PEOPLE RICH OR PORR AT HEART AND IS NOT LOOKING FOR THE POWER. HE LIVES HERE AND RAISED HIS CHILDREN HERE AND DESPITE ALL THE SMUT RUMORS IN THIS BOARD . : HE IS RISING ABOVE IT FOR EVERY NEGATIVE THING POSTED AND WRITTEN ABOUT HIM HE JUMPS IN THE POLLS. : SO STAY NEGATIVE ON HIM AND YOU WILL HELP HIM BECOME MAYOR NEXT TUESDAY. GOD BLESS AMERICA & JERRAMIAH HEALY A GENTLEMAN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** blondy posted Message 8740 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 21:34:20 Subject: manzo grow up we need a real man to represent our city. we don't need a pervert nor do we need a child. manzo do all of us a favor and play with your boys.so all you city people vote for a real man jerramiah healy. thats right ***************** End Of Article ****************** george posted Message 8741 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 21:37:31 Subject: HCDO THE HCDO IS THE STRONGEST ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE AND DONT FORGET THAT THAT WHY HEALY IS GOING TO WIN ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy's Is Joke of the State posted Message 8742 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 21:38:58 Subject: Healy's Nakie Pic On PoliticsNJ.com Healy's nakie pic is now running on politicsnj.com. What a joke Healy is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy Suffers Irish Curse posted Message 8743 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 21:42:21 Subject: Yeah Right ...And Healy's Hung Like a Horse HCDO Candidate Tom Degise LOST Jersey City in the primary. THE HCDO IS THE STRONGEST ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE AND DONT FORGET THAT THAT WHY HEALY IS GOING TO WIN ***************** End Of Article ****************** Outsider posted Message 8744 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 21:47:07 Subject: Re: Healy's Nakie Pic On PoliticsNJ.com Just saw the pic, it's just Manzo's size. : Healy's nakie pic is now running on politicsnj.com. : What a joke Healy is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You ask now? posted Message 8745 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 21:59:55 Subject: Re: ** Halloween Warning** Healy Home 109 Ferry Street You are just now asking what has become of our town? Where've you been for the last century? This question should have been asked by our grandparent's generation. When you pander to the lowest intelligence levels like Jersey City has for years, this is what you get...garbage in, garbage out. : All Children going door to door this Halloween should be advised to avoid the Healy House at 109 Ferry Street. : Healy is an admitted alcoholic and nudist. Children should avoid the Healy stoop - Healy is lower than low : What has become of our town ?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** If you believe that, then I have a bridge to sell you. Learning from Lipski? The Ward C Flip-Flopper? Pass along whatever you are smoking posted Message 8746 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 22:00:58 Subject: Re: Did they get full credit or was this like an elective : Actually, if these kids were his students it's a good thing. Maybe when they can vote they will actually take a positive role in the election process. Looks like Lipski is providing the kids with a very good civics lesson. They are getting to see what kind of scum bags are working in other campaigns. : : Yesterday, I saw young kids (14-17) giving out Lipski literature on Central Ave. I passed his club on Summit near Magnolia and saw a couple of dozen young kids there. : : Obviously, Mr. Lipski is using his students to walk the streets for him. : : Good voter base you got there. : : HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 8747 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 22:23:56 Subject: Manzo is not Gay! Manzo claims he is a hetrosexual. We know better. Louis please come out, we will respect you more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO STRONGEST ORGANIZATION posted Message 8748 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 22:28:51 Subject: Re: HCDO : THE HCDO IS THE STRONGEST ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE AND DONT FORGET THAT THAT WHY HEALY IS GOING TO WIN MR. GEORGE HOW MANY DRINKS YOU HAD TODAY WITH YOU NAKED LEADER IN THE ASTOR BAR....THE HCDO WAS THE STRONGEST ,NOW IS A TOTAL ZERO YES , HEALY IS GOING TO WIN THE BIG PRIZE OF STUPID OF THE YEAR AWARD. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 8749 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 22:36:22 Subject: Re: all this mud AND ALSO IF YOU REMEMBER RAY MANZO WITHDREW HIS NAME ON THE BALLOT BECAUSE OF HEALY ASKING HIM TO. IMAGINE IF HE KEPT IT ON HEALY WOULD HAVE BEEN A SURE WINNER. SO HEALY DID MANZO A FAVOR. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 8750 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 22:40:23 Subject: BET THE RANCH! HEALY WINS HEY!MANZO SUPPORTERS YOU CAN BET THE RANCH AND ITS CONTENTS HEALY WILL WIN THE RACE THE POLLS ARE NOW SHOWING HIM IN THE LEAD FROM A 22 POINT DEFICIT THREE WEEKS AGO. PICTURE AND ALL. SO KEEP SHOOTING NEGATIVE. GO JERRY!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** MARIE DANDRIDGE posted Message 8751 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 22:48:01 Subject: HERE COMES THE CALVARY! THIS WEEK THERE WILL BE SO MUCH SUPPORT FOR HEALY. NO ONE IS CATCHING HIM . COUNTY DEMS SENDING THE TROOP SAND WILL BE BRINGING OUT ALL LOU MANZO SKELETONS IN HIS CLOSET. IF YOU THINK A BUNCH OF SO CALLED NAKED PICS WILL CHANGE THE OUT COME YOU ARE NUTS CONVICTS HAVE BEEN ELECTED IN JERSEY CITY. NIDIA COLON/WILLIAM BRAKER AND SO ON. AND THE PICS HAVE BEEN CROPPED TO MAKE HIM LOOK NAKED. COMPUTER PHOTOS ARE EASY TO DO EVEN A MANZO SUPPORTER CAN DO IT . GO JERRY GO !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** CAMIE posted Message 8752 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 22:53:32 Subject: HEALY IS SNOW BALLING TO VICTORY JERRY HEALY IS SNOWBALLING TO VICTORY MANZO IS A MOVING BACKWARDS IN THE NEW POLLS WATCH FOR THE MANZO CHOCKER THIS WEEK. IN YOUR MAIL. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaughan and Disguist posted Message 8753 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 23:38:26 Subject: Re: HCDO IS Going Down With waste-bags like Tom Digusit and Gaughan running the county you got some nerve to say this is a strong organization? The stench is strong, that I will concede, but with the defeat of healy these lowlifes better have the guts to get out of town or else they might wind up in the Hudson River too. >ung tFQ : : THE HCDO IS THE STRONGEST ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE AND DONT FORGET THAT THAT WHY HEALY IS GOING TO WIN : MR. GEORGE HOW MANY DRINKS YOU HAD TODAY WITH : YOU NAKED LEADER IN THE ASTOR BAR....THE HCDO : WAS THE STRONGEST ,NOW IS A TOTAL ZERO : YES , HEALY IS GOING TO WIN THE BIG PRIZE OF STUPID : OF THE YEAR AWARD. ***************** End Of Article ****************** playing with himself posted Message 8754 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 23:40:25 Subject: Watch for healy picture of him if that doesn't do it, well good luck jerry, at least you wouldn't have to take your pants off when Porkey M tells you to bend over. : JERRY HEALY IS SNOWBALLING TO VICTORY MANZO IS A MOVING BACKWARDS IN THE NEW POLLS WATCH FOR THE MANZO CHOCKER THIS WEEK. : IN YOUR MAIL. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Life Members posted Message 8755 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 23:42:12 Subject: Re: HERE COMES THE Astor bar jerry is going to win a life memebership to the astor bar. go jerry go, drink jerry drink! : THIS WEEK THERE WILL BE SO MUCH SUPPORT FOR HEALY. : NO ONE IS CATCHING HIM . : COUNTY DEMS SENDING THE TROOP SAND WILL BE BRINGING OUT ALL LOU MANZO SKELETONS IN HIS CLOSET. : IF YOU THINK A BUNCH OF SO CALLED NAKED PICS WILL CHANGE THE OUT COME YOU ARE NUTS CONVICTS HAVE BEEN ELECTED IN JERSEY CITY. : NIDIA COLON/WILLIAM BRAKER AND SO ON. : AND THE PICS HAVE BEEN CROPPED TO MAKE HIM LOOK NAKED. : COMPUTER PHOTOS ARE EASY TO DO EVEN A MANZO SUPPORTER CAN DO IT . : GO JERRY GO !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don't Count posted Message 8756 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 23:44:02 Subject: Tony A$$mobile Polls Don't delude youself, Tony Assmobile is the minister of propaganda, not fact. Healy is at 11% and falling faster than his under wear. : HEY!MANZO SUPPORTERS YOU CAN BET THE RANCH AND ITS CONTENTS HEALY WILL WIN THE RACE THE POLLS ARE NOW SHOWING HIM IN THE LEAD FROM A 22 POINT DEFICIT THREE WEEKS AGO. : PICTURE AND ALL. : SO KEEP SHOOTING NEGATIVE. : GO JERRY!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Part Phillipino? posted Message 8757 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 23:45:01 Subject: Is Healy : HCDO Candidate Tom Degise LOST Jersey City in the primary. : : THE HCDO IS THE STRONGEST ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE AND DONT FORGET THAT THAT WHY HEALY IS GOING TO WIN ***************** End Of Article ****************** politicsnj posted Message 8758 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 24, 2004 at 23:54:25 Subject: Jerry Healy is the Feature on If there is any doubt about the validity of the healy pic than go to www.politicsnj.com They got Jerry in all his glory. But jerry, where is your stick? ***************** End Of Article ****************** CLEAN CAMPAIGNER posted Message 8759 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 01:02:16 Subject: WAY TO GO LIPSKI! I've always been a proud Jersey City resident, but dirty politics, indicted officials and corruption always made me feel ashamed to tell outsiders I was from here because they'd laugh and say, isn't your Mayor/County Exec/Freeholder in jail? During the Schundler administration, we got some pride back. People WANTED to move here, not move out. On election day, my entire family will be supporting Steve Lipski because he's refrained from the dirty politics which have been so prevalent in both the Manzo & Healy campaigns. Bring pride back to Jersey City. Vote for a clean campaigner and energetic guy...Steve Lipski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where is Jerry Healy stick? posted Message 8760 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 01:48:05 Subject: Re: Jerry Healy is the Feature on : If there is any doubt about the validity of the healy pic than go to www.politicsnj.com : They got Jerry in all his glory. : But jerry, where is your stick? Mr.Healy stick is with the HCDO alfresco .Where is DeGise Goughan,Menendez,Corzine all the super starts of the HCDO .After Healy the Judge ,the councilman the man of the hour for the HCDO and the Kerry and Healy campaing .Where is the stick for Nov.2 let the people of Jersey City put the stick in the place that deserve to be......... ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Hon.Healy in PoliticNJ.com posted Message 8761 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 01:55:31 Subject: The candidate for mayor of JC. Healy now famous in our nation.Jersey City the joke of the nation . Question : Are we proud ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 8762 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 04:12:50 Subject: Jerry Healy, Jersey City's Answer to Vanessa Williams! I guess Healy removed his clothes for the sake of art, like Vanessa the Undresser! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Black Widow posted Message 8763 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 06:59:39 Subject: HCDO & Menendez play us for Brain Dead They are all set to support the winner as long as they can keep their Money & power flowing into their accounts.Menendez ,Kenny Gaughan, DeGise are in this for themselfs.jersey City taxpayers are the only losers in this election for Mayor Of Jersey City.Harvey Smith Over "Air Head" Willie Flood in ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Will you idiots get a different typist. The guy you have is getting tired. posted Message 8764 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 07:13:01 Subject: Re: HERE COMES THE CALVARY! : THIS WEEK THERE WILL BE SO MUCH SUPPORT FOR HEALY. : NO ONE IS CATCHING HIM . : COUNTY DEMS SENDING THE TROOP SAND WILL BE BRINGING OUT ALL LOU MANZO SKELETONS IN HIS CLOSET. : IF YOU THINK A BUNCH OF SO CALLED NAKED PICS WILL CHANGE THE OUT COME YOU ARE NUTS CONVICTS HAVE BEEN ELECTED IN JERSEY CITY. : NIDIA COLON/WILLIAM BRAKER AND SO ON. : AND THE PICS HAVE BEEN CROPPED TO MAKE HIM LOOK NAKED. : COMPUTER PHOTOS ARE EASY TO DO EVEN A MANZO SUPPORTER CAN DO IT . : GO JERRY GO !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Okay, so how much extra credit is Mr. Flipski giving you for posting probably one of the better written items on this board? posted Message 8765 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 07:15:05 Subject: Re: WAY TO GO LIPSKI! : I've always been a proud Jersey City resident, but dirty politics, indicted officials and corruption always made me feel ashamed to tell outsiders I was from here because they'd laugh and say, isn't your Mayor/County Exec/Freeholder in jail? : During the Schundler administration, we got some pride back. People WANTED to move here, not move out. : On election day, my entire family will be supporting Steve Lipski because he's refrained from the dirty politics which have been so prevalent in both the Manzo & Healy campaigns. : Bring pride back to Jersey City. Vote for a clean campaigner and energetic guy...Steve Lipski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why? Do they have teenie weenies? posted Message 8766 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 07:16:11 Subject: Re: Is Healy : : HCDO Candidate Tom Degise LOST Jersey City in the primary. : : : : THE HCDO IS THE STRONGEST ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE AND DONT FORGET THAT THAT WHY HEALY IS GOING TO WIN ***************** End Of Article ****************** BombShell posted Message 8767 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 07:18:07 Subject: McCann bombshell on Healy comes out Friday The fat lady will sing on friday. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 8768 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 07:35:23 Subject: CALVARY? Well, in the picture Healy does sorta look like he's about to be CRUCIFIED! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Tom Gaynor Factor posted Message 8769 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 08:01:26 Subject: Who is Tom Gaynor endorseing for Mayor of JC? I bet that will be the winner.Just curious.I am a member of the Best of the best from Jersey Citys Past and i love to read the Jedsey Journal.When is the next issue coming out.A Jersey Girl true and blue. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dump Menendez -Kenny posted Message 8770 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 08:43:56 Subject: Rudy Garcia - William Gaughan Plan If Healy wins. That will be the future game plan.Stay tuned for this one.Money to be made by these guys.Only jersey City loses.Harvey Smith still thinks Willie Flood is a Air head. ***************** End Of Article ****************** evacuee posted Message 8771 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 08:47:52 Subject: Dickson Dickson spotted in Secaucus. Citizens prepare to evacuate. Mayor pleads for calm. Dickson vaccine shortage panics decent people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Of Course their only in it for the cash posted Message 8772 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 08:59:35 Subject: Re: HCDO & Menendez play us for Brain Dead Look at menendez's girlfirend, kay licausi, do you thinky she would have got all those fat conracts on her own? tom Disguist, can't give enough no-bid contracts to his friends. it goes on and on and on. : They are all set to support the winner as long as they can keep their Money & power flowing into their accounts.Menendez ,Kenny Gaughan, DeGise are in this for themselfs.jersey City taxpayers are the only losers in this election for Mayor Of Jersey City.Harvey Smith Over "Air Head" Willie Flood in ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I need anoher beer, please! posted Message 8773 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 09:01:14 Subject: No He's Calling out : Well, in the picture Healy does sorta look like he's about to be CRUCIFIED! ***************** End Of Article ****************** as Jerry's posted Message 8774 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 09:03:50 Subject: their small but not as small : : : HCDO Candidate Tom Degise LOST Jersey City in the primary. : : : : : : THE HCDO IS THE STRONGEST ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE AND DONT FORGET THAT THAT WHY HEALY IS GOING TO WIN ***************** End Of Article ****************** Image-jersey city loses posted Message 8775 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 09:03:53 Subject: politicsnj.com It cant get any worse.Jersey City has now reached the bottomon the image scale. Thanks ,HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Please Mr Healy sing up on AAA now! posted Message 8776 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 09:22:40 Subject: Healy needs help, and please respect his family Please Mr. Healy do a favor to those who care for you,I'm a former alcoholic please go to AAA you need to run away from drinking . Son God is with you,dont follow those bad people of that organization the HCDO the devil is with them please help yourself and your family no more politics for you to much we the citizen of NJ dont want to seeyou naked one more time is too much .....please go Mr HEALY GO GO AND HELP YOU SOUL.GOPLEASEEEEGOOOOO...................... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez Oks the Story picture posted Message 8777 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 09:25:30 Subject: The War has started Gaughan-Garcia Vs Menendez -kenny.Menendez gives the ok to embarrass Healy in politicsnj.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Excellent Point posted Message 8778 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 09:28:53 Subject: Re: The War has started : Gaughan-Garcia Vs Menendez -kenny.Menendez gives the ok to embarrass Healy in politicsnj.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8779 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 09:46:31 Subject: Let's not forget our beloved Mayor Cunningham. Vote Willie Flood for Mayor. Lets get the ball rolling again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** INSIDE INFO posted Message 8780 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 09:51:41 Subject: INSIDE INFO I WAS JUST TOLD THAT THE HEALY CAMP IS BROKE!! THEY ARE – 45,000 AND THE BILLS ARE STILL COMING IN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 8781 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 09:54:37 Subject: Re: Dickson :::Baby, you are in the wrong town. : Dickson spotted in Secaucus. Citizens prepare to evacuate. Mayor pleads for calm. Dickson vaccine shortage panics decent people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The HCDO ust Wants to Use Jerry posted Message 8782 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 09:58:22 Subject: Re: Healy needs help, and please respect his family So they can get a strangle hold on JC. Menendez, enough is enough. If we don;t stop him now he will take over JC. Who needs this interloper in JC? : Please Mr. Healy do a favor to those who care for you,I'm : a former alcoholic please go to AAA you need to run away : from drinking . Son God is with you,dont follow those bad : people of that organization the HCDO the devil is with them : please help yourself and your family no more politics for you : to much we the citizen of NJ dont want to seeyou naked one more time is too much .....please go Mr HEALY GO GO AND : HELP YOU SOUL.GOPLEASEEEEGOOOOO...................... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Is That for only the Bar Bill? posted Message 8783 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 09:59:27 Subject: Re: INSIDE INFO : I WAS JUST TOLD THAT THE HEALY CAMP IS BROKE!! : THEY ARE – 45,000 AND THE BILLS ARE STILL COMING IN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sign Guy posted Message 8784 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 09:59:49 Subject: McCann and Manzo Perfect Together. A convicted felon and a homo. And these guys think they will ever become Mayor? Never. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why vote for a Air head posted Message 8785 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:00:02 Subject: Harvey Smith wouldnt Keep on smiling ,Willie.A brain is a terrible thing to waste. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mary Lou Manzo posted Message 8786 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:01:12 Subject: I think it's SUPER!! Faggot!! : And these guys think they will ever become Mayor? Never. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why He Undressed In Public posted Message 8787 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:02:24 Subject: Re: Jerry Healy, Said He Doesn't Know Bad enough! but this guy wants to be our Mayor? Doesn't he have any shame at all? I can see his picture on the Howard Stern show next. I think I'll tell Howard about hahahealy.com! Maybe he'll invite Jerry on his show. : I guess Healy removed his clothes for the sake of art, like Vanessa the Undresser! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8788 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:04:01 Subject: God bless you. Vote Willie Flood for Mayor. Willie Flood will make safer streets, better schools, and clean politics. : Keep on smiling ,Willie.A brain is a terrible thing to waste. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou Manzo is Running for Mayor Stupid! posted Message 8789 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:04:41 Subject: Its Not These Guys Do you have any idea what's going on? Are you as drunk as Jerry Healy? Lou Manzo, not Jerry McCann is running for and will be the next Mayor, get it straight, maybe you too should try AAA? I hear it works. : And these guys think they will ever become Mayor? Never. ***************** End Of Article ****************** he HCDO is Proud. posted Message 8790 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:06:43 Subject: Re: The candidate for mayor of JC. They are so full of themselves. They think they could put mickey mouse on line A and get him elected. throw the whole bunch of them out! : Healy now famous in our nation.Jersey City the joke of the : nation . Question : Are we proud ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Worker posted Message 8791 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:07:14 Subject: Manzo must be retarted to cut a deal with that idiot Harvey Smith. Lou, we don't need that monkey. Keep it in the family. He will make you look bad. Everybody hates him. His own black people don't even respect him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hater posted Message 8792 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:09:33 Subject: No $hit Sherlock. McCan controls him though. Dumbass! : And these guys think they will ever become Mayor? Never. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham team. posted Message 8793 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:12:16 Subject: Bring HONESTY back to City Hall. Elect Willie Flood for Mayor. She is the only honest candidate in the election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8794 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:16:20 Subject: Bring INTEGRETY back to ity Hall. Elect Willie Flood for Mayor. This is whom we have chosen to continue the work our great Maroy Glenn Cunningham started. We are fully confident Willie will represent this City how it should be represented. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8795 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:21:01 Subject: Willie Flood will make it safe to walk the streets again. The crime rate will definitely go down, from the Heights to the Greenville section. No area will be overlooked. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Enemies you haven't heard from. posted Message 8796 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:23:58 Subject: Louis Manzo is a FRAUD and a RACIST. The proof is in the pudding. Look who his running his campaign. A KNOWN racist and a CONVICTED felon. If you vote for Lou Manzo YOU are just as Corrupt as he is. : Keep it in the family. He will make you look bad. Everybody hates him. His own black people don't even respect him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Air head Willie posted Message 8797 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:27:02 Subject: When did the streets become unsafe? Give me the exact time they became unsafe. And how are you going to change the conditions that cause it in the first place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Integrity in person posted Message 8798 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:32:30 Subject: Lipski to the rescue Lipski is dynamic enough to get the job done. Go Lipski ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward F posted Message 8799 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:34:24 Subject: Uncle Harvey sells us out once again. This is why the black community hates you now. You need to wake up harvey. You are hurting people not helping. Thats the problem. Either you don't know or you don't care. I think you don't care. : Keep it in the family. He will make you look bad. Everybody hates him. His own black people don't even respect him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** but I don't know Lipski, I'm just following his campaign posted Message 8800 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:34:44 Subject: Thanks for the compliment on my writing and it's positive. i believe a positive campaigner will help us to once again have pride in our hometown. I judge them by the campaigns they run & Lipski is focusing on the issues, not on other candidates' personal lives and problems. Best of Luck to Steve Lipski. : : I've always been a proud Jersey City resident, but dirty politics, indicted officials and corruption always made me feel ashamed to tell outsiders I was from here because they'd laugh and say, isn't your Mayor/County Exec/Freeholder in jail? : : During the Schundler administration, we got some pride back. People WANTED to move here, not move out. : : On election day, my entire family will be supporting Steve Lipski because he's refrained from the dirty politics which have been so prevalent in both the Manzo & Healy campaigns. : : Bring pride back to Jersey City. Vote for a clean campaigner and energetic guy...Steve Lipski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8801 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:35:42 Subject: They became unsafe May 25, 2004. : Give me the exact time they became unsafe. And how are you going to change the conditions that cause it in the first place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Qualifications-Must be a drunk posted Message 8802 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:37:12 Subject: HCDO leadership Guidelines Bars in jersey City come out the big winner in the HCDO Crime family.Nepotism number Two. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team. posted Message 8803 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:38:46 Subject: Please don't disrespect OUR candidate by resorting to namecalling. We are about issues not useless bickering. The issues are whats important. Not who's gay or who is an Uncle tom or who was naked. It's about how we can make this City better. Please understand that. Thanks. : : Give me the exact time they became unsafe. And how are you going to change the conditions that cause it in the first place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ............... posted Message 8804 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:41:34 Subject: If Willie wasn't running for Mayor I would vote for Lipski or Al Pine. All the other guys are liars. But Willie is my first choice. She worked for Glenn and I heard they were related. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Resident. posted Message 8805 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:45:04 Subject: Right on!!! Jersey City needs POSITIVE leadership. Look at all the other guys campaigns. They aren't even talking about how they will make this city better. All they do is sling mud. That's not positive. We don't need that in City Hall. : But Willie is my first choice. She worked for Glenn and I heard they were related. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 8806 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:46:20 Subject: Willie all the way!!! Point well spoken. : Look at all the other guys campaigns. They aren't even talking about how they will make this city better. All they do is sling mud. That's not positive. We don't need that in City Hall. : : But Willie is my first choice. She worked for Glenn and I heard they were related. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ........................... posted Message 8807 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:48:54 Subject: Re: Who is Tom Gaynor endorseing for Mayor of JC? : I bet that Willie Flood will be the winner.Just curious.I am a member of the Best of the best from Jersey Citys Past and i love to read the Jedsey Journal.When is the next issue coming out.A Jersey Girl true and blue. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8808 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:55:24 Subject: Willie Flood is who the Cunningahm team chose to continue the work Glenn started. Willie is more than qualified to govern this city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** If she only had a brain posted Message 8809 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 10:57:34 Subject: Willie keep on smiling You may be able to fake people out. Harvey Smith knows a Air Head when he sees one.So you wont get his vote. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8810 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:01:06 Subject: God Bless you. Vote Willie Flood for Mayor. We hope the Acting Mayor realizes that we need to come together and take care of the people. : You may be able to fake people out. Harvey Smith knows a Air Head when he sees one.So you wont get his vote. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who Says? posted Message 8811 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:09:48 Subject: Re: Willie Flood is who the Cunningahm team chose to continue the work Glenn started. I saw Glenn in my dreams last night and he said STICK with the Cunningham-Manzo team, vote for Lou Manzo!!!! : Willie is more than qualified to govern this city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Candidaes must be comfortable on their knees posted Message 8812 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:11:40 Subject: Re: HCDO leadership Guidelines because they will spending alot of time down there kissing Porky M's ring. : Bars in jersey City come out the big winner in the HCDO Crime family.Nepotism number Two. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8813 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:14:10 Subject: We say so. WE ARE THE CUNNINGHAM TEAM. WE CHOOSE WILLIE FLOOD TO CARRY THE TORCH. Please don't disrespect the dearly departed. Manzo has betrayed Glenn and the whole Cunningham Team. He used Glenn to get to where he is now. Now look. He is running against us. He planned this all along. : I saw Glenn in my dreams last night and he said STICK with the Cunningham-Manzo team, vote for Lou Manzo!!!! : : Willie is more than qualified to govern this city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Its Time for a New Poll posted Message 8814 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:14:47 Subject: Tony A$$mobile You got to prop-up your sorry-a$$ candiate Healy, but could you at least make it look a little legit? Can you poll voters other than those that spend the greater part of their day at the Astor bar? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Victory 2004 posted Message 8815 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:15:28 Subject: Lipski is the projected winner Lipski campaigns the hardest, works the hardest, and deserves to win ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie Flood for Mayor. posted Message 8816 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:18:08 Subject: Willie Flood wants to bring the concept of entrepreneurship to the youth of this great City. This is what we need. The children are the next leaders. We need to invest in them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flipski also has a drinking problem posted Message 8817 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:20:03 Subject: Ask James King Ward c civic club is not for flipski. Why?. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie the UTN posted Message 8818 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:23:26 Subject: To great Jersey City failures Harvey Smith saids that both couldnt make it without handouts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pardon me, if you do not know Flipski but judge by the campaign, you are not choosing wisely. Lipski does not have that good a track record in the 3 years since he was elected councilman. Why do you think he is nicknamed Flipski? He makes John Kerry look stable. posted Message 8819 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:26:00 Subject: Re: Thanks for the compliment on my writing : and it's positive. i believe a positive campaigner will help us to once again have pride in our hometown. I judge them by the campaigns they run & Lipski is focusing on the issues, not on other candidates' personal lives and problems. : Best of Luck to Steve Lipski. : : : I've always been a proud Jersey City resident, but dirty politics, indicted officials and corruption always made me feel ashamed to tell outsiders I was from here because they'd laugh and say, isn't your Mayor/County Exec/Freeholder in jail? : : : During the Schundler administration, we got some pride back. People WANTED to move here, not move out. : : : On election day, my entire family will be supporting Steve Lipski because he's refrained from the dirty politics which have been so prevalent in both the Manzo & Healy campaigns. : : : Bring pride back to Jersey City. Vote for a clean campaigner and energetic guy...Steve Lipski! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Steve Sober Lipski posted Message 8820 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:28:17 Subject: Re: Ask James King about? : Ward c civic club is not for flipski. Why?. Lipski for the people. King for himself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Church of St John prayer for Healy posted Message 8821 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:29:52 Subject: Let's pray for our poor soul of a candidate Yes,7:30 pm at St.John lets pray for Jerry the poor thing is sick . Tomorrow another section of counseling for those with Healy at the Astor Bar,The Summit House (LAYCOS) and other Bars, naked Healy is a good person please support the effort of recuperation . We are going to win Jersey City is with us the HCDO. Nov.2 NAKED,NUDE or corrupt let's keep the tradition vote ,drinks on the house after the election pay by for the HCDO........ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jimmy k-turn King posted Message 8822 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:31:09 Subject: Re: King "Kong" may wind up in prison with Gerry, Ron, and Mary Lou : : Ward c civic club is not for flipski. Why?. : Lipski for the people. King for himself. King done. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8823 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:31:44 Subject: Bring the love back to City Hall. Elect Willie Flood for Mayor. Nobody likes to go to work now. Its total chaos down there now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** POLITICSNJ.COM posted Message 8824 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:34:16 Subject: LIPSKI up - Healy / McManzo down Lipski you go! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Forget love-howabout brains posted Message 8825 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:36:05 Subject: Smiling wont get it done Harvey Smith knows a vacuum head when he sees one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Teacher Teacher posted Message 8826 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:37:05 Subject: Re: To great Jersey City failures Obviously a Snyder High School Grad.... it ain't "to" .... it is "two".... Grade ":F" : Harvey Smith saids that both couldnt make it without handouts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie love ......a job posted Message 8827 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:44:47 Subject: Re: Bring the love back to City Hall. Elect Willie Flood for Mayor. : Nobody likes to go to work now. Its total chaos down there now. Willie has alot of love for a job with the County the deal was made 3 weeks ago by the development priest,Joe and Bobby from the newspaper rumors allover Newark ave. she needs medical insurance. Thats what county people say the goal now is stop Manzo and Harvey only reason she is running . ***************** End Of Article ****************** MOTHER LOVE posted Message 8828 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:48:19 Subject: Re: LIPSKI one of two council people to work with Glenn D. Bring back the LOVE : Lipski you go! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8829 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:48:34 Subject: Keep the Cunningham legacy alive. Vote Willie Flood for Mayor. Willie Flood is the only candidate who isn't corrupt. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Insider posted Message 8830 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:50:47 Subject: Harvey's illiterate murderer son wrote this. This is who they are. A bunch of lowlifes. : Obviously a Snyder High School Grad.... : it ain't "to" .... it is "two".... : Grade ":F" : : : Harvey Smith saids that both couldnt make it without handouts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lipski and Willie will bring the love posted Message 8831 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:52:17 Subject: Re: Polish eyes are smiling : Harvey Smith knows a vacuum head when he sees one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lets vote for Willie keep the legacy posted Message 8832 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:52:23 Subject: Re: Smiling wont get it done : Harvey Smith knows a vacuum head when he sees one. Sandy is right only 1 black mayor Glenn divide the community keep the legacy . Now vote for anybody else as long ward F damage the election the deal is done.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Is it true? posted Message 8833 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:53:12 Subject: Heard today that Uncle Harvey paid $20000 to get Kip off of Rikers Island. I heard he murdered someone in New York. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Marshall posted Message 8834 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:53:18 Subject: Re: Keep the Cunningham legacy alive. Vote Steve Lipski. : Willie Flood is the only candidate who isn't corrupt. ***************** End Of Article ****************** And a Pair of Pants Too! posted Message 8835 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:57:36 Subject: Re: Let's Buy Jerry a Drink : Yes,7:30 pm at St.John lets pray for Jerry the poor thing is sick . Tomorrow another section of counseling for those : with Healy at the Astor Bar,The Summit House (LAYCOS) : and other Bars, naked Healy is a good person please : support the effort of recuperation . We are going to win : Jersey City is with us the HCDO. Nov.2 NAKED,NUDE or : corrupt let's keep the tradition vote ,drinks on the house after the election pay by for the HCDO........ ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8836 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 11:59:59 Subject: Don't be fooled. The Cunningham Team endorses Willie Flood. No one else. : Willie Flood is the only candidate who isn't corrupt. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JERSEY CITY HISTORY posted Message 8837 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:01:22 Subject: FIRST TIME IN N.J. JERSEY CITY THE SECOND LARGEST CITYIN THE GARDEN STATE MAKING NATIONAL NEWS FIRST CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR WITHOUT CLOTHES NUDE PRIME TIME GAY GOVERNOR NAKED MAYOR PRIDE GOVERMENT IN ACTION IN JC YOU DONT NEED CLOTHES TO RUN MAYBE A TIE GOVERNOR HAPPY WITH NEWS TAKE THE ATTENTION AWAY FROM HIM. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Don't Speak for Glenn posted Message 8838 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:01:37 Subject: Your Nobody its a shame that some people that they speak for someone who is dead. Really? When was the last time Glenn talked to you? Did he regrete having drayton and jackson as his advisors? : Please don't disrespect the dearly departed. Manzo has betrayed Glenn and the whole Cunningham Team. He used Glenn to get to where he is now. Now look. He is running against us. He planned this all along. : : I saw Glenn in my dreams last night and he said STICK with the Cunningham-Manzo team, vote for Lou Manzo!!!! : : : Willie is more than qualified to govern this city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8839 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:03:25 Subject: Lord, Please forgive our enemies for they know not what they do. This is the negativity that we don't need in city hall. These people are so hatefull. I hope GOD takes that evil spirit out of their hearts. This is about the people not some stupid vendetta. : Harvey Smith knows a vacuum head when he sees one. ***************** End Of Article ****************** For an Exclusive Inerview posted Message 8840 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:04:01 Subject: Jerry Springer Approached Healy Camp Jerry Springer wants Jerry Healy on his show. They will also have his neighbors there to talk about all the kinky things Jerry does when he disrobes. Rumor has it Jerry may also get a gig on the Howard Stern Show. Go Jerry Go! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Insider posted Message 8841 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:07:12 Subject: Lipski is a nice person but the Cunningham Team is supporting Mrs. Flood for mayor. Please don't use Glenn's name in vein. : : Lipski you go! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I heard that..... posted Message 8842 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:08:28 Subject: Re: Heard today that Uncle Harvey paid $20000 to get Kip off of Rikers Island. :::Kip was arrested last week and it is being kept quiet. I had heard of an incident several years ago about him being implicated in a murder. : I heard he murdered someone in New York. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know Mrs. Flood. posted Message 8843 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:10:55 Subject: Re: Bring the love back to City Hall. Elect Willie Flood for Mayor. Believe me. Mrs. Flood will NEVER work for the County again. By Choice. They represent everything she is against. Her husband has health ins and she is covered under his plan. She is well taken care of I assure you. She is in this for the love of Jersey City not a pay check. : : Nobody likes to go to work now. Its total chaos down there now. : Willie has alot of love for a job with the County the deal was made 3 weeks ago by the development priest,Joe and Bobby from the newspaper rumors allover Newark ave. : she needs medical insurance. Thats what county people say the goal now is stop Manzo and Harvey only reason she is running . ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8844 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:20:02 Subject: Listen, you're not going to bait me to argue with you. His Wife and the orginization that got him elected are supporting Willie Flood for Mayor. That's it. It's not up for discussion. : its a shame that some people that they speak for someone who is : dead. Really? When was the last time Glenn talked to you? : Did he regrete having drayton and jackson as his advisors? : : : Please don't disrespect the dearly departed. Manzo has betrayed Glenn and the whole Cunningham Team. He used Glenn to get to where he is now. Now look. He is running against us. He planned this all along. : : : : I saw Glenn in my dreams last night and he said STICK with the Cunningham-Manzo team, vote for Lou Manzo!!!! : : : : Willie is more than qualified to govern this city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** rightnow posted Message 8845 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:20:14 Subject: degise daughters i know toms beloved daughters are both full time county workers and full time students, how is this possible tommy boy? i bet they never show up for work. have any other kids you want to put on OUR TAXDOLLARS. maybe you can help my child gte a job because sorry lil girls its not that easy in the real world. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Curious. posted Message 8846 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:24:39 Subject: He did get arrested last week. I'm just not clear as to why. Does anyone know? And Harvey is condoning this kind of behavior? He cant even keep his kids out of trouble how can he keep the city out of trouble. : :::Kip was arrested last week and it is being kept quiet. I had heard of an incident several years ago about him being implicated in a murder. : : I heard he murdered someone in New York. ***************** End Of Article ****************** gail posted Message 8847 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:27:12 Subject: Re: Jerry Springer Approached Healy Camp : Jerry Springer wants Jerry Healy on his show. They will also have his neighbors there to talk about all the kinky things Jerry does when he disrobes. : Rumor has it Jerry may also get a gig on the Howard Stern Show. : Go Jerry Go! manzo will be on the same show but healy stay away he likes the boys ***************** End Of Article ****************** Citizen posted Message 8848 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:27:19 Subject: And he wants to be Mayor? This is ridiculous. He should be ashamed of himself and drop out. : Jerry Springer wants Jerry Healy on his show. They will also have his neighbors there to talk about all the kinky things Jerry does when he disrobes. : Rumor has it Jerry may also get a gig on the Howard Stern Show. : Go Jerry Go! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know what u did!!! posted Message 8849 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:29:55 Subject: Him and that spanish guy put that poor man in the trunk after they killed him. Harvey knew about it and he did nothing. : I heard he murdered someone in New York. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Straight Shooter posted Message 8850 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:33:10 Subject: Anyone with paintball guns. Train them at all those ugly Manzo signs. We will attack this week. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 8851 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:35:38 Subject: Keep the Cunningham legacy alive if ... you like racist, corrupt and incompetent City government. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team. posted Message 8852 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:37:47 Subject: Jersey City needs POSITIVE leadership. Willie Flood for Mayor. Not the negativity that the other guys are showing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 8853 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:39:02 Subject: Bring the racism and incompetence back to City Hall. Elect Willie Flood for Mayor. Willie can smile while the City burns. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Supporter posted Message 8854 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:42:07 Subject: You must be deaf, dumb, and blind to call the Cunningham team racists. You are the racist one. You are just saying this because they are black. Personally I don't care what race is running I just know that I am voting for Willie Flood because she sticks to the issues. She dosen't go around badmouthing the other candidates. : you like racist, corrupt and incompetent City government. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 8855 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:45:41 Subject: Jersey City POSITIVELY doesn't need Willie Flood for Mayor. Willie is part of the problem, not the solution. She has been in City government for years and look what we have. She has no real positions on any issue. She is a tool of Cardwell and Jackson. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ............ posted Message 8856 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:45:44 Subject: I heard CHAKOTAY is a N A Z I. Hile!!! : Willie can smile while the City burns. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8857 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:48:21 Subject: God Bless you. Vote Willie Flood for Mayor. See this is what I was saying about all the negative namecalling. : Not the negativity that the other guys are showing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Curious. posted Message 8858 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:52:53 Subject: Why do you feel like this? And who do you support? She is nobody's tool, and she hasn't been in city government for years. You are mistaking her for Harvey. He has been there for 11 years and has done absolutely nothing. Come with facts please. : Willie is part of the problem, not the solution. She has been in City government for years and look what we have. She has no real positions on any issue. She is a tool of Cardwell and Jackson. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ...... posted Message 8859 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 12:54:49 Subject: Re: Bring the racism and incompetence back to City Hall. Elect Lou Manzo or Jerry Healy, or Uncle Harvey. for Mayor. : Willie can smile while the City burns. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Enough Already posted Message 8860 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:00:55 Subject: Stop with the God Stuff! God can't vote and will not decide the election. What is the reason to vote for W flood, besides being friends with S Cunningham? : See this is what I was saying about all the negative namecalling. : : : Not the negativity that the other guys are showing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Has No Juice posted Message 8861 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:04:06 Subject: The 'Cunningham Team' The Cunningham team is a figment of someone's imagination. Stop smoking that crack, its not good for you. : : Willie Flood is the only candidate who isn't corrupt. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Help Healy posted Message 8862 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:21:41 Subject: Donate Don't Discard! Clothes for Charity! Men's pants are required for a good cause. Bring your old trousers (42" waist, 32" length) to 583 Newark Avenue. Ask for Tom Degise, Bill Gaughan, or Jim Kennelly. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I feel sorry for you. posted Message 8863 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:21:59 Subject: GOD stuff? That's how you refer to our creator? Believe me. God IS in this election. That's why you are worried. It will be OK. : : God can't vote and will not decide the election. : What is the reason to vote for W flood, besides being friends with S Cunningham? : : See this is what I was saying about all the negative namecalling. : : : : : Not the negativity that the other guys are showing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bah Bah Bouey! posted Message 8864 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:22:21 Subject: Re: Jerry Springer Approached Healy Camp : Jerry Springer wants Jerry Healy on his show. They will also have his neighbors there to talk about all the kinky things Jerry does when he disrobes. : Rumor has it Jerry may also get a gig on the Howard Stern Show. : Go Jerry Go! ***************** End Of Article ****************** He's Not Voting posted Message 8865 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:23:05 Subject: Re: GOD stuff? That's how you refer to our creator? : Believe me. God IS in this election. That's why you are worried. It will be OK. : : : : God can't vote and will not decide the election. : : What is the reason to vote for W flood, besides being friends with S Cunningham? : : : See this is what I was saying about all the negative namecalling. : : : : : : : Not the negativity that the other guys are showing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Louis Panzo posted Message 8866 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:26:08 Subject: I don't know why all you DARKIES are arguing. I am going to win. Thanks for the help Harvey. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GOD fearing man. posted Message 8867 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:28:55 Subject: GOD dosen't have to vote. He already controls the election. Out of all the candidates he would choose Willie though. : : Believe me. God IS in this election. That's why you are worried. It will be OK. : : : : : : : God can't vote and will not decide the election. : : : What is the reason to vote for W flood, besides being friends with S Cunningham? : : : : See this is what I was saying about all the negative namecalling. : : : : : : : : : Not the negativity that the other guys are showing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gerry McCan't posted Message 8868 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:33:24 Subject: Me and Lou are gonna ASS-RAPE this city. Minorities get NOTHING!!! Power to us!!! : Thanks for the help Harvey. ***************** End Of Article ****************** B. Aurthur posted Message 8869 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:35:16 Subject: He supports Panzo and McCan't. They are just jealous Willie is going to win. : She is nobody's tool, and she hasn't been in city government for years. You are mistaking her for Harvey. He has been there for 11 years and has done absolutely nothing. Come with facts please. : : : Willie is part of the problem, not the solution. She has been in City government for years and look what we have. She has no real positions on any issue. She is a tool of Cardwell and Jackson. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team. posted Message 8870 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:39:03 Subject: So why are you worried? What is crack? : The Cunningham team is a figment of someone's imagination. : Stop smoking that crack, its not good for you. : : : : Willie Flood is the only candidate who isn't corrupt. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez to endorse Willie Flood posted Message 8871 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:40:23 Subject: Keep the Legacy alive!!!!!! Ms. Flood will be endorse by Congressman Menendez the county isn't happy , Willie perfect candidate for the congressman she willsay yes to everything. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ............................... posted Message 8872 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:40:42 Subject: If we have no juice why do you have to say it? It would be seen. We are VERY real. You see it. : The Cunningham team is a figment of someone's imagination. : Stop smoking that crack, its not good for you. : : : : Willie Flood is the only candidate who isn't corrupt. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Aide. posted Message 8873 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:42:51 Subject: Bull$hit!! We don't want that darkie representing the Great HCDO!! This info is totally wrong. : Ms. Flood will be endorse by Congressman Menendez : the county isn't happy , Willie perfect candidate for the congressman she willsay yes to everything. ***************** End Of Article ****************** We Know. posted Message 8874 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:47:27 Subject: Lou Manzo is a FRAUD and a RACIST Wake up people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jake Fahrfenugen posted Message 8875 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:47:37 Subject: HelpJerry Healy Start a New Career! Now that Jerry's all washed up in politics, he's hired me as his agent to get him up to speed in show business. I see him as a natural (hyuk, hyuk) in reality shows, but first I got to get him some exposure. (hyuk, hyuk) If I can get Healy on the Howard Stern Show then everything will fall into place. E-mail sternshow@howardstern.com that Howard has got to have Healy on the show. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Out here. posted Message 8876 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 13:50:27 Subject: Who's putting stickers on the signs? Whoever it is keep it up. Damn. They even made Harvey take those eyesores off the Bus. And the Manzo and McCann stickers are great!!! You guys really outdid yourselves. Keep it up!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City needs a new fresh begining posted Message 8877 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 14:17:23 Subject: Let's vote LIPSKI Lipski maybe isn't perfect, but is the only person running that deserve a chance for mayor Schundler was't the best but compare to the present ,he is like God.So .Vote Lipski is nothing else out in the field.Take a serious look at McCann withManzo,Healy drunk and naked,Harvey with Betty Outlaw great name for this lady out-law,Flood with Jackson ,Drayton and Cardwell............please LIPSKI WIN!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stern Show Already Contacted posted Message 8878 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 14:25:23 Subject: Re: HelpJerry Healy Start a New Career! Stern show already been contacted. They seemed skeptical, (Your kidding right?) but said they would check it out and will be contacting Jerry. Gee! I hope all that Jerry's been through he at least can get a paycheck from Stern. Who knows? if James Carville can be a political commentator why not Jerry? Radio would be the best, then he doesn't have to put his clothes back on, aue naturale'. : Now that Jerry's all washed up in politics, he's hired me as his agent to get him up to speed in show business. : I see him as a natural (hyuk, hyuk) in reality shows, but first I got to get him some exposure. (hyuk, hyuk) : If I can get Healy on the Howard Stern Show then everything will fall into place. : E-mail sternshow@howardstern.com that Howard has got to have Healy on the show. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 8879 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 14:32:24 Subject: Drunken Jamie -- Jerry's Pal -- is a regular on Howard Stern! : Stern show already been contacted. They seemed skeptical, (Your kidding right?) but said they would check it out and will be contacting Jerry. Gee! I hope all that Jerry's been through he at least can get a paycheck from Stern. Who knows? if James Carville can be a political commentator why not Jerry? : Radio would be the best, then he doesn't have to put his clothes back on, aue naturale'. : : Now that Jerry's all washed up in politics, he's hired me as his agent to get him up to speed in show business. : : I see him as a natural (hyuk, hyuk) in reality shows, but first I got to get him some exposure. (hyuk, hyuk) : : If I can get Healy on the Howard Stern Show then everything will fall into place. : : E-mail sternshow@howardstern.com that Howard has got to have Healy on the show. Healy's buddy Drunken Jamie is already a regular on Howard Stern. Drunken Jamie is Beatlejuice's pr guy. Beatlejuice is yet another Heights guy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** It Just Never Ends - Forget Politics Jerry! posted Message 8880 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 14:36:37 Subject: Re: Drunken Jamie -- Jerry's Pal -- is a regular on Howard Stern! : : Stern show already been contacted. They seemed skeptical, (Your kidding right?) but said they would check it out and will be contacting Jerry. Gee! I hope all that Jerry's been through he at least can get a paycheck from Stern. Who knows? if James Carville can be a political commentator why not Jerry? : : Radio would be the best, then he doesn't have to put his clothes back on, aue naturale'. : : : Now that Jerry's all washed up in politics, he's hired me as his agent to get him up to speed in show business. : : : I see him as a natural (hyuk, hyuk) in reality shows, but first I got to get him some exposure. (hyuk, hyuk) : : : If I can get Healy on the Howard Stern Show then everything will fall into place. : : : E-mail sternshow@howardstern.com that Howard has got to have Healy on the show. : Healy's buddy Drunken Jamie is already a regular on Howard Stern. Drunken Jamie is Beatlejuice's pr guy. Beatlejuice is yet another Heights guy. The material would be endless! I see Hollywood in the future, his butt print on the walk of fame. Go jerry Go! Flash Healy is our man! ***************** End Of Article ****************** He Told me to Vote for Lou Manzo posted Message 8881 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 15:05:34 Subject: Praise Jesus! Son, vote for lou manzo and your prayers will be answered, halla LOU Yah!. : Out of all the candidates he would choose Willie though. : : : : Believe me. God IS in this election. That's why you are worried. It will be OK. : : : : : : : : : : God can't vote and will not decide the election. : : : : What is the reason to vote for W flood, besides being friends with S Cunningham? : : : : : See this is what I was saying about all the negative namecalling. : : : : : : : : : : : Not the negativity that the other guys are showing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** INSIDE INFO posted Message 8882 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 15:15:00 Subject: INSIDE INFO I WAS JUST TOLD THAT THE HEALY CAMP IS BROKE!! THEY ARE – 45,000 AND THE BILLS ARE STILL COMING IN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. ) on October 22, 2004 at 13:55:36: posted Message 8883 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 15:35:18 Subject: Healy and the HCDO JJ 8/13/04'"I believe homosexuality is an illness you're born with," said Gaughan.“I personally believe this is going to be won by a coalition of whites and Hispanics,” said Gaughan Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. ) on October 22, 2004 at 13:55:36: Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. ) JJ 8/13/04'"I believe homosexuality is an illness you're born with," said Gaughan. “I personally believe this is going to be won by a coalition of whites and Hispanics,” said Gaughan IT WAS OVERHEARD THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE CASINO, THE HEALY FUNDRAISER(AT THE BAR OF COURSE ) BILL GAUGHAN SAID WE GOT THE PUERTO RICAN BA$TARDS RIGHT WHERE WE WANT ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tony A$$Mobile Cashed His Checks posted Message 8884 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 15:42:04 Subject: Re: INSIDE INFO That's why Tony A$$-Wipe quickly cash his healy check and now he's begging to work for Lou Manzo, sorry Tony your gig is up! : I WAS JUST TOLD THAT THE HEALY CAMP IS BROKE!! : THEY ARE – 45,000 AND THE BILLS ARE STILL COMING IN! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy drunk and naked posted Message 8885 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 15:44:24 Subject: The Political Insider decided to ask the man who said he shot the infamous photo how it all happened. The Political Insider decided to ask the man who said he shot the infamous photo how it all happened. Meet Hector Rodriguez, 18, who lives on Booraem Avenue, a block over from Healy's house. Rodriguez went to Dickinson High School and now is at a technical school and trying to get his GED. Rodriguez said he was walking with his girlfriend, Stacie, by Healy's house on Ferry Street at about 3 a.m. "We were chilling and on our way to Pershing Field walking on Ferry," said Rodriguez. He said they saw a man, sans clothing, sitting on his front porch steps. "My girlfriend told me that he was the guy running for mayor," Rodriguez said. "I didn't know him, but we walked up to him and I told the dude to get inside his house." Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs. "My girlfriend asked him if he was drunk and he said he just had a few beers," Rodriguez said. "I told him if he doesn't get inside his house, I was going to take his picture." Healy didn't move and Rodriguez pulled out a Sprint cell phone and took the fuzzy but startling picture. "(Healy) got up and took a light blue, button-down collared shirt from the pile of clothes and wrapped it around himself," said Rodriguez. "I took three more photographs." Why is he coming out now? "I heard what they were saying - that (Healy) was lured out of the house," Rodriguez said. "I lured no one out. If I did, I would've brought a Kodak, a real camera." "It doesn't matter what they say," said Rodriguez. "I got the photos on my cell with the time and date stamped on them. All that matters is that he did what he did." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Quotes in JJ 10/23/04 posted Message 8886 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 15:47:15 Subject: "They're not coming to grips with the reality that Jerry Healy has a serious addiction problem. I ran the Healy campaign and the DeGise campaign against Glenn," McCann said. "They all knew about Healy's problem then." "They're not coming to grips with the reality that Jerry Healy has a serious addiction problem. I ran the Healy campaign and the DeGise campaign against Glenn," McCann said. "They all knew about Healy's problem then." McCann said Councilman Bill Gaughan, head of the Jersey City Democratic Party Committee, and DeGise were "using Healy, instead of helping him" in their alliance with U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez of Hoboken in the battle over local party influence. ***************** End Of Article ****************** awake posted Message 8887 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 15:54:59 Subject: Re: "They're not coming to grips with the reality that Jerry Healy has a serious addiction problem. I ran the Healy campaign and the DeGise campaign against Glenn," McCann said. "They all knew about Healy's problem then." : "They're not coming to grips with the reality that Jerry Healy has a serious addiction problem. I ran the Healy campaign and the DeGise campaign against Glenn," McCann said. "They all knew about Healy's problem then." : McCann said Councilman Bill Gaughan, head of the Jersey City Democratic Party Committee, and DeGise were "using Healy, instead of helping him" in their alliance with U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez of Hoboken in the battle over local party influence. Can anyone read this and believe that Mc Cann doesn't run Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 8888 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 15:56:19 Subject: Willie Flood .He used to be a nice guy, but no more. He used to be a nice guy, but no more. : Not the negativity that the other guys are showing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I don't like LOUIE. posted Message 8889 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:01:14 Subject: Well GOD said hatethe sin love the sinner. We ain't voting for LOUIE though!! : : Son, vote for lou manzo and your prayers will be answered, halla LOU Yah!. : : Out of all the candidates he would choose Willie though. : : : : : : : Believe me. God IS in this election. That's why you are worried. It will be OK. : : : : : : : : : : : : : God can't vote and will not decide the election. : : : : : What is the reason to vote for W flood, besides being friends with S Cunningham? : : : : : : See this is what I was saying about all the negative namecalling. : : : : : : : : : : : : : Not the negativity that the other guys are showing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team. posted Message 8890 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:03:02 Subject: Willie Flood will increase the quality of life for Jersey City residents. Issues. Not drit. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bombshell posted Message 8891 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:04:24 Subject: McCann out to snuff Healy Out HCDO doesnt really care. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Grow up. posted Message 8892 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:06:31 Subject: Could you ASS-HOLES please stop the frickin rhetoric? Stick to the issues. Tell the people how you are going to do better. Not slinging mud. . ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8893 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:08:04 Subject: Willie Flood will make better schools for our children. The children are the future. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY DRUNK AND NAKED posted Message 8894 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:08:42 Subject: CHECK OUT CH 4 NEWS AT 5PM HEALY DRUNK AND NAKED CHECK OUT CH 4 NEWS AT 5PM ***************** End Of Article ****************** Waiting posted Message 8895 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:11:31 Subject: McCann better watch himself. Isn't he violating his parole by associating with Manzo? : HCDO doesnt really care. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No. Lou doesn't have a record. posted Message 8896 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:22:20 Subject: Re: McCann better watch himself. Isn't he violating his parole by associating with Manzo? : : HCDO doesnt really care. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MARTY B. posted Message 8897 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:36:54 Subject: WALLACE AVE CLUB WE'RE COMING FOR YOUR CLUB NEXT HARRISON ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJ Senate Democrats posted Message 8898 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:38:24 Subject: DORIA BILL TO ENCOURAGE INVESTMENT IN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS APPROVED FOR RELEASE: Immediate October 25, 2004 CONTACT: Jason Butkowski Tel: (609) 292-5215 Fax: (609) 984-1235 DORIA BILL TO ENCOURAGE INVESTMENT IN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS APPROVED TRENTON - A bill sponsored by Senator Joseph V. Doria which would allow special improvement districts (SIDS) to borrow money from private lenders, such as banks, under long-term financing contracts was approved by the Senate today by a vote of 33-2. "The special improvement districts exist to push redevelopment to the forefront of public-private partnerships, but right now we're shackling those partnerships by prohibiting them from entering into long-term financing contracts," said Senator Doria, D-Hudson. "When considering the sort of massive urban renewal that many of our State's improvement districts are trying to facilitate, the lack of long-term financing becomes a major hindrance. If we are serious about redevelopment in the poorer areas of the State, we have to consider a change of course as to what lengths we will allow our improvement districts to go." The bill, S-1723, would authorize SIDS to enter into long-term financing arrangements with private lenders in order to provide more funding for downtown improvements and allow greater latitude to implement long-range programs to revitalize downtown business areas. Currently, SIDS can only borrow money from private lenders for 180 days. Senator Doria argued that by giving SIDS the ability to enter into long-term borrowing agreements, we are also opening up a market in-demand by many private investors. "Private investors are looking for every opportunity to invest in New Jersey and help improve many of our poorer areas in the State," said Senator Doria. "We've seen time and time again that when the State offers bonds to help finance development or redevelopment projects, those bonds usually sell out in a matter of days after being introduced. Investors are chomping at the bit to get involved in the redevelopment of New Jersey, and I think that we should be all means make that available to them." The bill now heads to the full Assembly for consideration. ### ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team. posted Message 8899 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:41:02 Subject: Jersey City is a beautiful place to live. Lets keep it that way. Elect Willie Flood for Mayor. She's the truth. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THe Evidence is Overwhelming! Healy Cover up Exposed! posted Message 8900 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:41:07 Subject: Re: The Political Insider decided to ask the man who said he shot the infamous photo how it all happened. This is right from the source. The Healy coverup and smear campaign is backfiring on all cylinders. THe truth is out! Healy campaing going into damage control, polling numbers are dropping like a rock. DeGise about to pull his support. Stay tuned for the latest. : The Political Insider decided to ask the man who said he shot the infamous photo how it all happened. : Meet Hector Rodriguez, 18, who lives on Booraem Avenue, a block over from Healy's house. Rodriguez went to Dickinson High School and now is at a technical school and trying to get his GED. : Rodriguez said he was walking with his girlfriend, Stacie, by Healy's house on Ferry Street at about 3 a.m. : "We were chilling and on our way to Pershing Field walking on Ferry," said Rodriguez. : He said they saw a man, sans clothing, sitting on his front porch steps. : "My girlfriend told me that he was the guy running for mayor," Rodriguez said. "I didn't know him, but we walked up to him and I told the dude to get inside his house." : Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs. : "My girlfriend asked him if he was drunk and he said he just had a few beers," Rodriguez said. "I told him if he doesn't get inside his house, I was going to take his picture." : Healy didn't move and Rodriguez pulled out a Sprint cell phone and took the fuzzy but startling picture. : "(Healy) got up and took a light blue, button-down collared shirt from the pile of clothes and wrapped it around himself," said Rodriguez. "I took three more photographs." : Why is he coming out now? : "I heard what they were saying - that (Healy) was lured out of the house," Rodriguez said. "I lured no one out. If I did, I would've brought a Kodak, a real camera." : "It doesn't matter what they say," said Rodriguez. "I got the photos on my cell with the time and date stamped on them. All that matters is that he did what he did." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cunningham Team - Bogus People Posting Bogus Messages posted Message 8901 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:42:20 Subject: There is no : She's the truth. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Jerry McCann thing Doesn't Stick! Sorrry posted Message 8902 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:44:21 Subject: Lou Manzo Runs His Own Campaign : : "They're not coming to grips with the reality that Jerry Healy has a serious addiction problem. I ran the Healy campaign and the DeGise campaign against Glenn," McCann said. "They all knew about Healy's problem then." : : McCann said Councilman Bill Gaughan, head of the Jersey City Democratic Party Committee, and DeGise were "using Healy, instead of helping him" in their alliance with U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez of Hoboken in the battle over local party influence. : Can anyone read this and believe that Mc Cann doesn't run Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** When He Is Elected Mayor - Go Lou!!!!! posted Message 8903 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:45:45 Subject: Its Ok, Lou WIll Forgive and Forget : : : : Son, vote for lou manzo and your prayers will be answered, halla LOU Yah!. : : : Out of all the candidates he would choose Willie though. : : : : : : : : : : Believe me. God IS in this election. That's why you are worried. It will be OK. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : God can't vote and will not decide the election. : : : : : : What is the reason to vote for W flood, besides being friends with S Cunningham? : : : : : : : See this is what I was saying about all the negative namecalling. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Not the negativity that the other guys are showing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Next Edition - Just in Time for Election Day posted Message 8904 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 16:54:59 Subject: National Enquirer Healy Pic's NE to run Healy picture. I think we have another famous persons from JC in the making. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Peewee posted Message 8905 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 17:18:06 Subject: Jerry Healy Drunk and Naked now a TV star Jerry Healy Nakedand Drunk on Ch 4 ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerzzycity posted Message 8906 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 17:18:29 Subject: LIPSKI has experience and education to run our city A true winner ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hang it UP posted Message 8907 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 18:17:58 Subject: Cunningham is GONE Glenn is dead. He has no team. They were all a bunch of self-interested political hacks when he was alive. now they're all out for themselves. There is NO CUNNINGHAM TEAM. Just a bunch of leftovers without jobs looking to find a lifeboat on Willie's team. But to call yourselves the Cunningham Team? That's just a freakin joke. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat posted Message 8908 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 19:00:36 Subject: Re: HERE COMES THE Astor bar : jerry is going to win a life memebership to the astor bar. go jerry go, drink jerry drink! : : : THIS WEEK THERE WILL BE SO MUCH SUPPORT FOR HEALY. : : NO ONE IS CATCHING HIM . : : COUNTY DEMS SENDING THE TROOP SAND WILL BE BRINGING OUT ALL LOU MANZO SKELETONS IN HIS CLOSET. : : IF YOU THINK A BUNCH OF SO CALLED NAKED PICS WILL CHANGE THE OUT COME YOU ARE NUTS CONVICTS HAVE BEEN ELECTED IN JERSEY CITY. : : NIDIA COLON/WILLIAM BRAKER AND SO ON. : : AND THE PICS HAVE BEEN CROPPED TO MAKE HIM LOOK NAKED. : : COMPUTER PHOTOS ARE EASY TO DO EVEN A MANZO SUPPORTER CAN DO IT . : : GO JERRY GO !!!! yes go jerry all the way everyone at the astor is behind you all the way only man could be mayor pat mccarthy and mike nolan ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 8909 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 20:03:54 Subject: all knew about Healy's problem then. : "They're not coming to grips with the reality that Jerry Healy has a serious addiction problem. I ran the Healy campaign and the DeGise campaign against Glenn," McCann said. "They all knew about Healy's problem then." : McCann said Councilman Bill Gaughan, head of the Jersey City Democratic Party Committee, and DeGise were "using Healy, instead of helping him" in their alliance with U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez of Hoboken in the battle over local party influence. You all ain't coming to grips that Manzo has a very serious addiction and you all are in denial he likes little boys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 8910 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 20:05:51 Subject: Manzos addiction males ***************** End Of Article ****************** maff@verizon.net posted Message 8911 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 20:09:09 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo Runs His Own Campaign/yeah right Wake up : : : "They're not coming to grips with the reality that Jerry Healy has a serious addiction problem. I ran the Healy campaign and the DeGise campaign against Glenn," McCann said. "They all knew about Healy's problem then." : : : McCann said Councilman Bill Gaughan, head of the Jersey City Democratic Party Committee, and DeGise were "using Healy, instead of helping him" in their alliance with U.S. Rep. Robert Menendez of Hoboken in the battle over local party influence. Mnzo runs his own campaign haha. So then I guess hes the one to taking down signs. : : : Can anyone read this and believe that Mc Cann doesn't run Manzo? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Word posted Message 8912 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 20:17:59 Subject: Re: LIPSKI has experience and education to run our city right into the ground : A true winner - NOT ***************** End Of Article ****************** kathy posted Message 8913 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 20:18:38 Subject: you are a joke : The Political Insider decided to ask the man who said he shot the infamous photo how it all happened. : Meet Hector Rodriguez, 18, who lives on Booraem Avenue, a block over from Healy's house. Rodriguez went to Dickinson High School and now is at a technical school and trying to get his GED. : Rodriguez said he was walking with his girlfriend, Stacie, by Healy's house on Ferry Street at about 3 a.m. hector you and stacie are jokes it suppose to be at 3am then changed to 10:30-11 because everyone caught on to the sun in the picture in one of the papers it was suppose to be pete barons 80 year old friend.He does not come out after dark. Know amazingly it was you and your girlfriend yeah right how much are they paying you to say that or to take a picture of manzo on a bad day yes we believe you have a picture that you planned to take of someone else.I hope you and stacie aren't to serious because you might go to jail for a long time.Or manzo might have to get you out. ooh or are they going to pay for your school. : "We were chilling and on our way to Pershing Field walking on Ferry," said Rodriguez. : He said they saw a man, sans clothing, sitting on his front porch steps. : "My girlfriend told me that he was the guy running for mayor," Rodriguez said. "I didn't know him, but we walked up to him and I told the dude to get inside his house." : Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs. : "My girlfriend asked him if he was drunk and he said he just had a few beers," Rodriguez said. "I told him if he doesn't get inside his house, I was going to take his picture." : Healy didn't move and Rodriguez pulled out a Sprint cell phone and took the fuzzy but startling picture. : "(Healy) got up and took a light blue, button-down collared shirt from the pile of clothes and wrapped it around himself," said Rodriguez. "I took three more photographs." : Why is he coming out now? : "I heard what they were saying - that (Healy) was lured out of the house," Rodriguez said. "I lured no one out. If I did, I would've brought a Kodak, a real camera." : "It doesn't matter what they say," said Rodriguez. "I got the photos on my cell with the time and date stamped on them. All that matters is that he did what he did." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Groundhog posted Message 8914 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 20:43:00 Subject: Re: LIPSKI has experience and education to build city ground up : : A true winner - YES ***************** End Of Article ****************** kokie posted Message 8915 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 20:45:44 Subject: LIPSKI addresses issues others whine Vote Lipski ***************** End Of Article ****************** Warden posted Message 8916 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 20:47:23 Subject: McManzo to issue prison insurance Rape!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Observer posted Message 8917 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 20:48:24 Subject: Re: LIPSKI fresh face : : : A true winner - YES ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bubba posted Message 8918 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 20:50:51 Subject: Re: Danny McMan to issue soap : Rape!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fresh Air posted Message 8919 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:01:06 Subject: It rolls right off your Lipski - Nov 2 It's elementary Watson ***************** End Of Article ****************** It sure does! posted Message 8920 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:03:56 Subject: Re: It rolls right off your Lipski - Nov 2 :::Mayor Manzo! Mayor Manzo! Mayor Manzo! : It's elementary Watson ***************** End Of Article ****************** jerzzycity posted Message 8921 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:05:36 Subject: LIPSKI will win bank on it He's the man ***************** End Of Article ****************** *Snicker, snicker, giggle, tee-heee* posted Message 8922 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:05:40 Subject: Re: LIPSKI addresses issues others whine : Vote Flipski ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tee-hee posted Message 8923 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:06:41 Subject: Re: LIPSKI will rob bank : He's the man ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cesspool posted Message 8924 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:32:33 Subject: McManzo, King, Gerry, Ron, and Danny - need we say more SCUM!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GOPer posted Message 8925 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:33:56 Subject: Lipski and Schundler perfect together yes ***************** End Of Article ****************** terry posted Message 8926 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:43:10 Subject: ex police chief and harvey smith perfect together ex police chief and harvey smith make deal for $100.000 to join harvey team whats next wille flood jumping fences to smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8927 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:45:59 Subject: Re: LIPSKI will win bank on it : He's the man are you fu*king nuts lipski for mayor no way ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joseph Goebbels posted Message 8928 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:47:27 Subject: Lipski and Schundler goosestepping together A nice pair of Bushna$is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8929 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:47:58 Subject: Re: It rolls right off your Lipski - Nov 2 : :::Mayor Manzo! Mayor Manzo! Mayor Manzo! : : It's elementary Watson healy healy healy healy healy for mayor the rite choice ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8930 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:48:17 Subject: Re: It rolls right off your Lipski - Nov 2 : :::Mayor Manzo! Mayor Manzo! Mayor Manzo! : : It's elementary Watson healy healy healy healy healy for mayor the rite choice ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 8931 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:52:00 Subject: Re: Jersey City is a beautiful place to live. Lets keep it that way. Elect Willie Flood for Mayor. : She's the truth. the biggest peace of sh*t that ever walks wille flood go back to the street corner and make some money su*king dick ***************** End Of Article ****************** tom posted Message 8932 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:53:40 Subject: Re: Cunningham is GONE : Glenn is dead. He has no team. They were all a bunch of self-interested political hacks when he was alive. now they're all out for themselves. There is NO CUNNINGHAM TEAM. Just a bunch of leftovers without jobs looking to find a lifeboat on Willie's team. But to call yourselves the Cunningham Team? That's just a freakin joke. thank god he is gone ***************** End Of Article ****************** john gotti posted Message 8933 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 21:58:28 Subject: Re: WALLACE AVE CLUB : WE'RE COMING FOR YOUR CLUB NEXT HARRISON ! hey lou you better watch you self i got a call from jerry this means trouble for you so you better forget about it you better back out lou ***************** End Of Article ****************** sammy the bull posted Message 8934 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:01:17 Subject: Re: WALLACE AVE CLUB : WE'RE COMING FOR YOUR CLUB NEXT HARRISON ! hey lou we have a problem here and it means trouble back out now lou if you now what i mean ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City mayor candidate on NBC posted Message 8935 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:02:44 Subject: Our naked candidate for mayor on channel 4 Great Jerry you are the best sorry story of this century judge and prosecutor now we know how corruption is alive in Hudson with judges and prosucutors like you is no hope andnow you want to be mayor......clown go and take care you drinking problem. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO CAN NOT TAKE THE HEAT....... posted Message 8936 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:08:43 Subject: Re: Could you ASS-HOLES please stop the frickin rhetoric? Stick to the issues. Tell the people how you are going to do better. Not slinging mud. : . HEALY GUYS GET OUT FIRST OF THE BARS SECOND THE KITCHEN OR KEEP DRINKING TO DEATH OR TILL YOU ARE NAKED.......ANYBODY CAN DO BETTER THAN THE DRUNK JUDGE EVEN WILLIE FLOOD ....... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Law and Order posted Message 8937 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:15:48 Subject: Re: McManzo will rob bank : : He's the man ***************** End Of Article ****************** WILLIE FLOOD AND HER QUALITIES posted Message 8938 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:17:46 Subject: Re: Willie Flood will increase the quality of life for Jersey City residents. : Issues. Not drit. Yes Willie will move the city in the right direction the entire city will be wardF,because we all are the same love and love some music BBQ'Sfrom the something deal more love some rap more love smile,smile but no work quality Flood style the legacy with Sandy as Deputy Mayor love,love and baby more love music music and more love Drayton is back as chief staff love love and morelove OUR VICTORY IS WITH FLOOD. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mary Lou Manzo posted Message 8939 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:23:57 Subject: Re: Our HOMO candidate for mayor : Great Jerry you are the best sorry story of this century : judge and prosecutor now we know how corruption : is alive in Hudson with judges and prosucutors like you : is no hope andnow you want to be mayor......clown go : and take care you drinking problem. ***************** End Of Article ****************** REFORMER posted Message 8940 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:26:05 Subject: Re: Lipski and Schundler kicking ass together : A nice pair of Bushna$is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** degise4ever posted Message 8941 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:33:33 Subject: Re: degise daughters excuse me leave his girls out of this. if u had ur info straight ud know that one daughter goes to school full time and works for the county during summer vacation, and the other works full time and goes to school at night. sorry your child isnt intelligent enough to handle both work and school simutaniously. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jack posted Message 8942 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:43:50 Subject: manzos new song hey manzo i think you have a problem with the new song you wrote the doors are upset that you stoled their song i am a back door man they are going to sue you for that song ***************** End Of Article ****************** Citizen's Watchgroup posted Message 8943 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:43:57 Subject: LIPSKI riding high!!!! VOTE LIPSKI ***************** End Of Article ****************** Back door man - written and performed by Danny McMann posted Message 8944 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:46:45 Subject: Re: Mary Lou Manzo : hey manzo i think you have a problem with the new song you wrote the doors are upset that you stoled their song i am a back door man they are going to sue you for that song ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say What? posted Message 8945 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:48:29 Subject: Lipski Gets High? NOW THERE'S SOMETHING I WOULDN'T EXPECT HIM TO ADMIT. : VOTE LIPSKI ***************** End Of Article ****************** frank posted Message 8946 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:51:48 Subject: homo manzo hey lou what is that under you chin never mind its MCCanns balls hanging he was just itching them ***************** End Of Article ****************** tom posted Message 8947 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 22:53:43 Subject: Re: LIPSKI riding high!!!! : VOTE LIPSKI lipski rideing high on manzos dick ***************** End Of Article ****************** sal posted Message 8948 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 23:00:58 Subject: jerry mccann hey mccann when i saw you today leaving manzos office on hutton street you had white stuff on your chin what was that never mind manzo has bad aim half of his load in your mouth half on your chin next time look in the mirror before you walk outside so you can wipe it off if he misses again you fag ***************** End Of Article ****************** Come clean McManzo posted Message 8949 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 25, 2004 at 23:20:06 Subject: Re: Lipski takes huron test in McManzo's mouth : NOW THERE'S SOMETHING I WOULDN'T EXPECT HIM TO ADMIT. : : VOTE LIPSKI ***************** End Of Article ****************** Clothed One posted Message 8950 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 01:24:14 Subject: Messy Messy Messy Healy ends up naked on the news and his drunk friends fight back by covering the city in paint. Get real and go to an AA meeting Manzo for Mayor. Jersey City First! Down with Hungover Healy! ***************** End Of Article ****************** stop scratching Jerry, your hair is falling out! posted Message 8951 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 05:46:23 Subject: Amabile says Healy Pulls Ahead Exactly what does he mean by this!?! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Siberia is nice this time of year. . . posted Message 8952 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 05:48:33 Subject: Amabile disses Joan Quigley You really expected her to start pushing the bandwagon of a naked drunk?!? - - - . . . The Hudson County Chamber of Commerce held their usual Jersey City mayoral candidate breakfast last week and the local press had some fun with some of the real and imagined witticisms that emanated. But the real surprise in their story was the quote by Assemblywoman Joan Quigley that she was still an undecided voter. That sure raised a few eyebrows in the courthouse fraternity. . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Obviously this was posted by a Healy Honkie. Not only is he disgusting but he can spell tinkle. posted Message 8953 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 06:55:08 Subject: Re: Lipski takes huron test in McManzo's mouth : : NOW THERE'S SOMETHING I WOULDN'T EXPECT HIM TO ADMIT. : : : VOTE LIPSKI ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mrs. Judge posted Message 8954 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 08:57:25 Subject: Judge Healy needs to drop out. With his baby dick. He really needs to save face and drop out. If not he will go out as a drunk, naked, LOSER. But, who would he side with? He hates Louie, Hates Harvey, and dosen't really care for Flipski, damn I hate to say this but his only logical ally is Willie Flood. At least it would look like he is trying to do the right thing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Revenge is a MOTHERPHUCKER!!!!! posted Message 8955 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:00:35 Subject: Lou Manzo, you are a real DIRTY BASTARD. Putting the judge out there is just plain wrong. You have sunk to a new low. You are a dirty MF!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Thought the homophobes Didn't allow Women posted Message 8956 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:02:05 Subject: Marylou the Homophobes Marylou, welcome to the homophobes for Healy club. but i didn't think women are allowed, sounds like your really a guy that likes to do kinky things like putting on womens clothes. Be good sweetie, and don;t forget to vote for Lou. : : Great Jerry you are the best sorry story of this century : : judge and prosecutor now we know how corruption : : is alive in Hudson with judges and prosucutors like you : : is no hope andnow you want to be mayor......clown go : : and take care you drinking problem. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Google This posted Message 8957 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:04:37 Subject: Anthony's Efforts Backfrire...Healy's Numbers Surge Its a wonderful thing when political assassins manage to shoot themselves in the foot. Brian Thompson is a fair guiy who knows the BS that takes place in JC politics. And his report (which has a link above) makes it so clear that Jerry Healy was "lured" out of his home by enemies looking to embarrass or blackmail him. And its also so obvious that Anthony has an agenda here...which is to scuttle the Healy campaign. No Doubt he will be looking for "considerations" from the Manzo Admin... if he wins. But no matter where this election goes...GetNJ has simply perpetuated the scandalous reputation Jersey City worked hard to shed during the past 10 years. And No Anthony....you can't hide behind the facade of being an impartial conduit for debate. YOU are part of the problem...not a solution. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Realist posted Message 8958 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:05:15 Subject: You have a very good point. This is exactly why I'm voting for Willie. The other candidates are resorting to nasty pictures and dirty tricks to win an election as serious as this one. I don't want someone like that leading the city I live in. Their train of thought is seriously messed up. They all need to grow up. Willie Flood for Mayor. : He really needs to save face and drop out. If not he will go out as a drunk, naked, LOSER. But, who would he side with? He hates Louie, Hates Harvey, and dosen't really care for Flipski, damn I hate to say this but his only logical ally is Willie Flood. At least it would look like he is trying to do the right thing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now Now, Sounds Like a Little Anger Management would Help You posted Message 8959 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:05:24 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo, you are a real DIRTY BASTARD. Boy you sure like to use a lot of exlictives. Don;t worrry sonny, when Lou is Mayor he is going to set up a counseling center to help low lifes like you. After Jerry gets clean he is going to run it. I can't think of a better teacher. : Putting the judge out there is just plain wrong. You have sunk to a new low. You are a dirty MF!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** After the News Spot Last NIght posted Message 8960 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:08:23 Subject: ...Healy's Numbers Surge Oh yeah! Healy will pick up at least 10 points after the voters get to see Jerry in the buff. Yeah, disgusiting things like prancing around nuke in public can win you alot of votes. Belive that and I got a bridge to sell you. : Its a wonderful thing when political assassins manage to shoot themselves in the foot. Brian Thompson is a fair guiy who knows the BS that takes place in JC politics. And his report (which has a link above) makes it so clear that Jerry Healy was "lured" out of his home by enemies looking to embarrass or blackmail him. : And its also so obvious that Anthony has an agenda here...which is to scuttle the Healy campaign. No Doubt he will be looking for "considerations" from the Manzo Admin... if he wins. But no matter where this election goes...GetNJ has simply perpetuated the scandalous reputation Jersey City worked hard to shed during the past 10 years. : And No Anthony....you can't hide behind the facade of being an impartial conduit for debate. YOU are part of the problem...not a solution. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy Hates Black People posted Message 8961 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:10:58 Subject: Re: You have a very good point. Racism is a wide plank in the Healy platform, that and hating gay people. The Healy campign would never join up with W Flood. : This is exactly why I'm voting for Willie. The other candidates are resorting to nasty pictures and dirty tricks to win an election as serious as this one. I don't want someone like that leading the city I live in. Their train of thought is seriously messed up. They all need to grow up. Willie Flood for Mayor. : : He really needs to save face and drop out. If not he will go out as a drunk, naked, LOSER. But, who would he side with? He hates Louie, Hates Harvey, and dosen't really care for Flipski, damn I hate to say this but his only logical ally is Willie Flood. At least it would look like he is trying to do the right thing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Be real. posted Message 8962 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:12:09 Subject: Nice try. How the hell can you lure someone out of their house naked? There is NO excuse for him being outside naked. That's just plain irresponsible. I did that $hit in college. I mean that was really low of Lou Manzo to put it out there like that, but the fact sitll remains if you are that stupid to let someone lure you The Councilman out in the buff then you must be an IDIOT. And you dont have the brains to run a city. What if someone lures you to do something wrong to the city? Then What? : Its a wonderful thing when political assassins manage to shoot themselves in the foot. Brian Thompson is a fair guiy who knows the BS that takes place in JC politics. And his report (which has a link above) makes it so clear that Jerry Healy was "lured" out of his home by enemies looking to embarrass or blackmail him. : And its also so obvious that Anthony has an agenda here...which is to scuttle the Healy campaign. No Doubt he will be looking for "considerations" from the Manzo Admin... if he wins. But no matter where this election goes...GetNJ has simply perpetuated the scandalous reputation Jersey City worked hard to shed during the past 10 years. : And No Anthony....you can't hide behind the facade of being an impartial conduit for debate. YOU are part of the problem...not a solution. ***************** End Of Article ****************** For Lou Manzo posted Message 8963 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:12:19 Subject: Joan Quigley : You really expected her to start pushing the bandwagon of a naked drunk?!? : - - - : . . . : The Hudson County Chamber of Commerce held their usual Jersey City mayoral candidate breakfast last week and the local press had some fun with some of the real and imagined witticisms that emanated. But the real surprise in their story was the quote by Assemblywoman Joan Quigley that she was still an undecided voter. That sure raised a few eyebrows in the courthouse fraternity. : . . . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amabile is Pulling It posted Message 8964 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:14:59 Subject: Re: Amabile says Healy Pulls Ahead Amabile is bogus, no one listens or believes this scam artist. How, exactly how can Healy gain voters when he's prancing around the streets without any clothes on and he can't figure out how he got there. Yeah! Healy actions demonstrate REAL LEADERSHIP that the voters of JC are in need of. : Exactly what does he mean by this!?! ***************** End Of Article ****************** John.M posted Message 8965 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:16:22 Subject: I agree. Anyone who has to resort to dirty pics should be disqualified. Yeah Lou. You need to get a life. : Putting the judge out there is just plain wrong. You have sunk to a new low. You are a dirty MF!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Photo Retouching is a Lark posted Message 8966 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:22:50 Subject: Ever hear of ADOBE Photoshop? Anyone who isn't familiar with desktop publishing should go spend the $600-700 and buy a copy of Adobe Photoshop. I can use that program to put your head on anyone's body. I could even remove your clothes and give you DD tits if I chose to. And if you had gone to hahahealy when the photo was first posted, you would have seen that Healy was wearing a towel. Its no big deal to airbrush that out. I could have even given him a more respectable sized "personality" ;) : There is NO excuse for him being outside naked. That's just plain irresponsible. I did that $hit in college. I mean that was really low of Lou Manzo to put it out there like that, but the fact sitll remains if you are that stupid to let someone lure you The Councilman out in the buff then you must be an IDIOT. And you dont have the brains to run a city. What if someone lures you to do something wrong to the city? Then What? : : : Its a wonderful thing when political assassins manage to shoot themselves in the foot. Brian Thompson is a fair guiy who knows the BS that takes place in JC politics. And his report (which has a link above) makes it so clear that Jerry Healy was "lured" out of his home by enemies looking to embarrass or blackmail him. : : And its also so obvious that Anthony has an agenda here...which is to scuttle the Healy campaign. No Doubt he will be looking for "considerations" from the Manzo Admin... if he wins. But no matter where this election goes...GetNJ has simply perpetuated the scandalous reputation Jersey City worked hard to shed during the past 10 years. : : And No Anthony....you can't hide behind the facade of being an impartial conduit for debate. YOU are part of the problem...not a solution. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Personnel Management posted Message 8967 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:24:23 Subject: Manzo needs a new Chief of Staff.... McCann SUX A sad day now that Gerry's dirty tricks politics is back. : Yeah Lou. You need to get a life. : : Putting the judge out there is just plain wrong. You have sunk to a new low. You are a dirty MF!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** the only direction is up posted Message 8968 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:25:45 Subject: Healy poll rising? The picture only shows limp as limp can be! Don't worry Jerry, politics is too much trouble anyhow. You've got a great career in front of you doing commercials for V*I*A*G*R*A. ***************** End Of Article ****************** healy4mayor posted Message 8969 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:28:56 Subject: healy read this This is the person that the web site www.hahahealy .com is registered to Domain Name.......... hahahealy.com Creation Date........ 2004-10-13 Registration Date.... 2004-10-13 Expiry Date.......... 2005-10-13 Organisation Name.... Jon Cramwell Organisation Address. 332 Johnson Street Organisation Address. Organisation Address. Hacketstown Organisation Address. 07305 Organisation Address. NJ Organisation Address. UNITED STATES Admin Name........... Jon Cramwell Admin Address........ 332 Johnson Street Admin Address........ Admin Address........ Hacketstown Admin Address........ 07305 Admin Address........ NJ Admin Address........ UNITED STATES Admin Email.......... jcramwell@hotmail.com Admin Phone.......... +1.2016884699 Admin Fax............ Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact Tech Address......... 701 First Ave. Tech Address......... Tech Address......... Sunnyvale Tech Address......... 94089 Tech Address......... CA Tech Address......... UNITED STATES Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096 Tech Fax............. +1.6198813010 Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** I don't buy.It. posted Message 8970 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:31:57 Subject: Yeah yeah yeah. That is so cliche. You would say that. But he admitted it. Sorry. Hey A$$hole!! He admitted it! : Anyone who isn't familiar with desktop publishing should go spend the $600-700 and buy a copy of Adobe Photoshop. I can use that program to put your head on anyone's body. I could even remove your clothes and give you DD tits if I chose to. And if you had gone to hahahealy when the photo was first posted, you would have seen that Healy was wearing a towel. Its no big deal to airbrush that out. I could have even given him a more respectable sized "personality" ;) : : There is NO excuse for him being outside naked. That's just plain irresponsible. I did that $hit in college. I mean that was really low of Lou Manzo to put it out there like that, but the fact sitll remains if you are that stupid to let someone lure you The Councilman out in the buff then you must be an IDIOT. And you dont have the brains to run a city. What if someone lures you to do something wrong to the city? Then What? : : : : : : Its a wonderful thing when political assassins manage to shoot themselves in the foot. Brian Thompson is a fair guiy who knows the BS that takes place in JC politics. And his report : (which has a link above) makes it so clear that Jerry Healy was "lured" out of his home by enemies looking to embarrass or blackmail him. : : : And its also so obvious that Anthony has an agenda here...which is to scuttle the Healy campaign. No Doubt he will be looking for "considerations" from the Manzo Admin... if he wins. But no matter where this election goes...GetNJ has simply perpetuated the scandalous reputation Jersey City worked hard to shed during the past 10 years. : : : And No Anthony....you can't hide behind the facade of being an impartial conduit for debate. YOU are part of the problem...not a solution. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Cramwell - A True American posted Message 8971 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:43:05 Subject: Re: healy read this : This is the person that the web site www.hahahealy : .com is registered to : : Domain Name.......... hahahealy.com : Creation Date........ 2004-10-13 : Registration Date.... 2004-10-13 : Expiry Date.......... 2005-10-13 : Organisation Name.... Jon Cramwell : Organisation Address. 332 Johnson Street : Organisation Address. : Organisation Address. Hacketstown : Organisation Address. 07305 : Organisation Address. NJ : Organisation Address. UNITED STATES : Admin Name........... Jon Cramwell : Admin Address........ 332 Johnson Street : Admin Address........ : Admin Address........ Hacketstown : Admin Address........ 07305 : Admin Address........ NJ : Admin Address........ UNITED STATES : : Admin Email.......... jcramwell@hotmail.com : Admin Phone.......... +1.2016884699 : Admin Fax............ : Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact : Tech Address......... 701 First Ave. : Tech Address......... : Tech Address......... Sunnyvale : Tech Address......... 94089 : Tech Address......... CA : Tech Address......... UNITED STATES : Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM : Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096 : Tech Fax............. +1.6198813010 : Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com : Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anyone But McManzo posted Message 8972 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:43:08 Subject: Dirty Tricks Won't Work I believe that JC voters are disgusted with the dirty tricks kind of campaign being run by McManzo. I think Lou has blown his last chance to be Mayor by letting his name be associated with such a dirty campaign. Even if you don't think Healy should be Mayor...Vote for someone else...just not McManzo. We don't need that kind of garbage in City Hall again. If McManzo becomes mayor by using nude photographs of his opponent, then we will send a message to the political world that its back to the days of dirty politics in JC. I do hope that as a community we are better than that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 8973 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:43:17 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo, you are a real DIRTY BASTARD. ::Baby stop calling that Lou Manzo by daddy's nickname. : Putting the judge out there is just plain wrong. You have sunk to a new low. You are a dirty MF!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cramwell...true American SCUM posted Message 8974 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:43:49 Subject: Re: healy read this : : This is the person that the web site www.hahahealy : : .com is registered to : : : : Domain Name.......... hahahealy.com : : Creation Date........ 2004-10-13 : : Registration Date.... 2004-10-13 : : Expiry Date.......... 2005-10-13 : : Organisation Name.... Jon Cramwell : : Organisation Address. 332 Johnson Street : : Organisation Address. : : Organisation Address. Hacketstown : : Organisation Address. 07305 : : Organisation Address. NJ : : Organisation Address. UNITED STATES : : Admin Name........... Jon Cramwell : : Admin Address........ 332 Johnson Street : : Admin Address........ : : Admin Address........ Hacketstown : : Admin Address........ 07305 : : Admin Address........ NJ : : Admin Address........ UNITED STATES : : : : Admin Email.......... jcramwell@hotmail.com : : Admin Phone.......... +1.2016884699 : : Admin Fax............ : : Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact : : Tech Address......... 701 First Ave. : : Tech Address......... : : Tech Address......... Sunnyvale : : Tech Address......... 94089 : : Tech Address......... CA : : Tech Address......... UNITED STATES : : Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM : : Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096 : : Tech Fax............. +1.6198813010 : : Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com : : Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** he Needs Some popsicle Sticks posted Message 8975 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:44:16 Subject: Re: Healy poll rising? My god, want a sorry dip stick. : The picture only shows limp as limp can be! : Don't worry Jerry, politics is too much trouble anyhow. You've got a great career in front of you doing commercials for V*I*A*G*R*A. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Neither will foul language posted Message 8976 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:45:21 Subject: Re: Dirty Tricks Won't Work :::Has anyone noticed that the Healy camp is consumed with this picture and responding to it with filthy language. Well, you know what they say: Guilty conscience needs no accuser. Or: Me thinks they protest too much. : I believe that JC voters are disgusted with the dirty tricks kind of campaign being run by McManzo. I think Lou has blown his last chance to be Mayor by letting his name be associated with such a dirty campaign. Even if you don't think Healy should be Mayor...Vote for someone else...just not McManzo. We don't need that kind of garbage in City Hall again. If McManzo becomes mayor by using nude photographs of his opponent, then we will send a message to the political world that its back to the days of dirty politics in JC. I do hope that as a community we are better than that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** But Nude Pictures Do Work posted Message 8977 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:47:41 Subject: Re: Dirty Tricks Won't Work The guy who took the pictures doesn't work for the Manzo campaign, in fact he said he isn't even registered to vote. he was sickened by having to see this drunken bloat out in his neighborhood and asked healy to have the decency to go inside. Its a big jump to tie this to the Manzo campaign, can it be that Lou is leading in the latest polling? : I believe that JC voters are disgusted with the dirty tricks kind of campaign being run by McManzo. I think Lou has blown his last chance to be Mayor by letting his name be associated with such a dirty campaign. Even if you don't think Healy should be Mayor...Vote for someone else...just not McManzo. We don't need that kind of garbage in City Hall again. If McManzo becomes mayor by using nude photographs of his opponent, then we will send a message to the political world that its back to the days of dirty politics in JC. I do hope that as a community we are better than that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** before the election posted Message 8978 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:49:37 Subject: Healy to Get A Weave Job Jerry healy is in sore need of a weave job on that hair do of his. Is that what's left of his real hair, or is that a wig that is falling apart? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Salesman posted Message 8979 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:51:45 Subject: Not associated? Sure If you believe that...I have a great bridge to sell you. : The guy who took the pictures doesn't work for the Manzo campaign, in fact he said he isn't even registered to vote. : he was sickened by having to see this drunken bloat out in his neighborhood and asked healy to have the decency to go inside. : Its a big jump to tie this to the Manzo campaign, can it be that Lou is leading in the latest polling? : : : I believe that JC voters are disgusted with the dirty tricks kind of campaign being run by McManzo. I think Lou has blown his last chance to be Mayor by letting his name be associated with such a dirty campaign. Even if you don't think Healy should be Mayor...Vote for someone else...just not McManzo. We don't need that kind of garbage in City Hall again. If McManzo becomes mayor by using nude photographs of his opponent, then we will send a message to the political world that its back to the days of dirty politics in JC. I do hope that as a community we are better than that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watcher posted Message 8980 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:54:28 Subject: Lou Manzo you are a REAL pile of $HIT!! Healy's wrong too but you are Dirty. Now neither one of you are gonna win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Country bumpkin posted Message 8981 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 09:58:26 Subject: I saw him in the passenger seat of the winnebago smoking reefer. DON'T VOTE LIPSKI ***************** End Of Article ****************** S. posted Message 8982 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 10:00:17 Subject: He's Worse that Uncle Harvey Uncle Harver neither. : Now neither one of you are gonna win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** But He's Gonna Win! Hah! Hah! Hah! posted Message 8983 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 10:11:08 Subject: Re: He's Worse that Uncle Harvey Eat your hearts out Healy sickofans. The party's over, try again in May, to defeat Mayor Manzo. : Uncle Harver neither. : : : Now neither one of you are gonna win. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cranwell for Deputy mayor posted Message 8984 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 10:12:21 Subject: Re: healy read this : : : This is the person that the web site www.hahahealy : : : .com is registered to : : : : : : Domain Name.......... hahahealy.com : : : Creation Date........ 2004-10-13 : : : Registration Date.... 2004-10-13 : : : Expiry Date.......... 2005-10-13 : : : Organisation Name.... Jon Cramwell : : : Organisation Address. 332 Johnson Street : : : Organisation Address. : : : Organisation Address. Hacketstown : : : Organisation Address. 07305 : : : Organisation Address. NJ : : : Organisation Address. UNITED STATES : : : Admin Name........... Jon Cramwell : : : Admin Address........ 332 Johnson Street : : : Admin Address........ : : : Admin Address........ Hacketstown : : : Admin Address........ 07305 : : : Admin Address........ NJ : : : Admin Address........ UNITED STATES : : : : : : Admin Email.......... jcramwell@hotmail.com : : : Admin Phone.......... +1.2016884699 : : : Admin Fax............ : : : Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact : : : Tech Address......... 701 First Ave. : : : Tech Address......... : : : Tech Address......... Sunnyvale : : : Tech Address......... 94089 : : : Tech Address......... CA : : : Tech Address......... UNITED STATES : : : Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM : : : Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096 : : : Tech Fax............. +1.6198813010 : : : Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com : : : Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Maybe Healy's boyfriend Did? posted Message 8985 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 10:13:44 Subject: Re: Nice try. How the hell can you lure someone out of their house naked? : There is NO excuse for him being outside naked. That's just plain irresponsible. I did that $hit in college. I mean that was really low of Lou Manzo to put it out there like that, but the fact sitll remains if you are that stupid to let someone lure you The Councilman out in the buff then you must be an IDIOT. And you dont have the brains to run a city. What if someone lures you to do something wrong to the city? Then What? : : : Its a wonderful thing when political assassins manage to shoot themselves in the foot. Brian Thompson is a fair guiy who knows the BS that takes place in JC politics. And his report (which has a link above) makes it so clear that Jerry Healy was "lured" out of his home by enemies looking to embarrass or blackmail him. : : And its also so obvious that Anthony has an agenda here...which is to scuttle the Healy campaign. No Doubt he will be looking for "considerations" from the Manzo Admin... if he wins. But no matter where this election goes...GetNJ has simply perpetuated the scandalous reputation Jersey City worked hard to shed during the past 10 years. : : And No Anthony....you can't hide behind the facade of being an impartial conduit for debate. YOU are part of the problem...not a solution. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy winning the poll ssss posted Message 8986 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 10:30:29 Subject: Re: ...Healy's Numbers Surge : Oh yeah! Healy will pick up at least 10 points after the voters get to see Jerry in the buff. Yeah, disgusiting things like prancing around nuke in public can win you alot of votes. : Belive that and I got a bridge to sell you. : : Its a wonderful thing when political assassins manage to shoot themselves in the foot. Brian Thompson is a fair guiy who knows the BS that takes place in JC politics. And his report (which has a link above) makes it so clear that Jerry Healy was "lured" out of his home by enemies looking to embarrass or blackmail him. : : And its also so obvious that Anthony has an agenda here...which is to scuttle the Healy campaign. No Doubt he will be looking for "considerations" from the Manzo Admin... if he wins. But no matter where this election goes...GetNJ has simply perpetuated the scandalous reputation Jersey City worked hard to shed during the past 10 years. : : And No Anthony....you can't hide behind the facade of being an impartial conduit for debate. YOU are part of the problem...not a solution. Astor Bar poll has Healy with 25% of alcohol and this time unders and a red tie .........Mr. Ambomivile the pollster was also naked some rumors....... ***************** End Of Article ****************** We need Schundler as our mayor posted Message 8987 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 10:35:49 Subject: Alternative LIPSKI THE ONLY CANDIDATE THE ONLY CHOICE STOP HEALY AND MANZO DIRT ...... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 8988 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 10:41:14 Subject: Bret's too busy. Playing God. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Charity practitioner posted Message 8989 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 10:43:53 Subject: Have pity on Jerry's family -- VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE! Healy's family has been tortured by the revelations. Think what it will be like for them with Healy's constant stream of drunken antics under public scrutiny! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pee Wee Healy posted Message 8990 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 10:53:28 Subject: Healy Really Needs An Extension Little Jerry is in dire need of a pe nile extension . No Wonder he drinks himself blind. Jerry healy is in sore need of a weave job on that hair do of his. Is that what's left of his real hair, or is that a wig that is falling apart? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mayor Guilty of Urin-ating in Public posted Message 8991 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 10:53:54 Subject: Re: Have pity on Jerry's family -- VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE! Yeah, think about how embarassing if the JC police have to hand out a citation to the mayor for urin-ating in public? : Healy's family has been tortured by the revelations. Think what it will be like for them with Healy's constant stream of drunken antics under public scrutiny! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rabbits are about the right size posted Message 8992 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 10:54:57 Subject: Re: Healy Really Needs An Extension : Little Jerry is in dire need of a pe nile extension . No Wonder he drinks himself blind. : : Jerry healy is in sore need of a weave job on that hair do of his. Is that what's left of his real hair, or is that a wig that is falling apart? ***************** End Of Article ****************** I have know him for years - he is a concerned parent who fears for the children of Jersey City. Healy has a number of serious issues --- HEaly DOES NOT belong in the Public Spotlite - or Any Spotlite for that matter ! posted Message 8993 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 10:56:47 Subject: God Bless Jon Cramwell !!! : This is the person that the web site www.hahahealy : .com is registered to : : Domain Name.......... hahahealy.com : Creation Date........ 2004-10-13 : Registration Date.... 2004-10-13 : Expiry Date.......... 2005-10-13 : Organisation Name.... Jon Cramwell : Organisation Address. 332 Johnson Street : Organisation Address. : Organisation Address. Hacketstown : Organisation Address. 07305 : Organisation Address. NJ : Organisation Address. UNITED STATES : Admin Name........... Jon Cramwell : Admin Address........ 332 Johnson Street : Admin Address........ : Admin Address........ Hacketstown : Admin Address........ 07305 : Admin Address........ NJ : Admin Address........ UNITED STATES : : Admin Email.......... jcramwell@hotmail.com : Admin Phone.......... +1.2016884699 : Admin Fax............ : Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact : Tech Address......... 701 First Ave. : Tech Address......... : Tech Address......... Sunnyvale : Tech Address......... 94089 : Tech Address......... CA : Tech Address......... UNITED STATES : Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM : Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096 : Tech Fax............. +1.6198813010 : Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com : Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8994 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:00:55 Subject: Keep the Cunningham Legacy Alive!! Vot Willie Flood for Mayor If you don't like all this useless rhetoric and bickering. And you want clean politics. Vote 13H Willie Flood for Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8995 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:01:55 Subject: Re: Keep the Cunningham Legacy Alive!! Vote Willie Flood for Mayor Typo error. : If you don't like all this useless rhetoric and bickering. And you want clean politics. Vote 13H Willie Flood for Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where the heck is Healy's family when He goes off on his drunken naked binges ??? Maybe it's a Family Affair posted Message 8996 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:02:24 Subject: Where IS Healy Family When Jerry Goes Nakie ? : Healy's family has been tortured by the revelations. Think what it will be like for them with Healy's constant stream of drunken antics under public scrutiny! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8997 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:03:42 Subject: Vote for the clean campaign. Not the dirty ones. We don't have to discredit the other candidates to win. We stick to the issues. Which are the people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8998 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:06:43 Subject: This race isn't about Jerry, Lou, Harvey, Steve or even Willie. It's about the well being of this city. We endorse Willie Flood because she has the City's best interests at heart. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 8999 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:12:27 Subject: We don't have to grossly discredit another candidate to win a race. We stick to issues. This is the truth. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo will benkrupt property owners! posted Message 9000 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:28:15 Subject: WATCH OUT! Manzo will Bankrupt Landlords! PROPERTY OWNERS! Wake up! Look at the ad Manzo placed in the Journal today, it is already nearly impossible to evict a bad tenant, to say nothing of how long, and how much it costs, is this guy crazy? The ad, which speaks for itself, is the most ill-conceived policy, and if it is ever enacted, PROPERTY OWNERS WILL HAVE NO RIGHTS! ***************** End Of Article ****************** What a NIGHTMARE! posted Message 9001 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:34:18 Subject: Manzo & Tenants Rights Manzo can't be serious! A whole page ad for Tenant's rights? Property owner's are the backbone of this city, we pay the taxes! It will be a DISASTER if his policy is ever enacted! Did anyone read it, or think it through?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou Manzo for Mayor posted Message 9002 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:39:31 Subject: Re: Keep the Cunningham Legacy Alive!! Vote Lou and Glenn were on the same team, that's the Cunningham team, NOT WILLIE. : Typo error. : : If you don't like all this useless rhetoric and bickering. And you want clean politics. Vote 13H Willie Flood for Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 9003 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:44:37 Subject: The Cunningham Team does NOT support Lou Manzo. : : If you don't like all this useless rhetoric and bickering. And you want clean politics. Vote 13H Willie Flood for Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Louie Panzo posted Message 9004 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:46:41 Subject: I had to stab Glenn in the back. I only used him to get to the assembly. I don't even like MINORITIES. I never liked him anyway. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Louie Panzo posted Message 9005 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:50:11 Subject: I hated Glenn Cunningham even more than Uncle Harvey did. I just used him. Just like I'm using those spades and spiks now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Louie Panzo posted Message 9006 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 11:52:52 Subject: I know Willie is the only candidate who really cares, but I owe alot of people favors and money. So I have to at least try to win. I know the truth but I dont care I am an a$$hole. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glenn Never did or Never WOuld Suport You posted Message 9007 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 12:07:42 Subject: Your On Your Own Willie Call it the Willie Flood Team NOT the Cunningham Team. Glenn didn't endorse Willie Flood and if he was alive he wouldn't do it now. He would have supported his teammate Lou Manzo. Let her run on her own record, or lack thereof. She has already ripped Glenns coattails to schreds! We endorse Willie Flood because she has the City's best interests at heart. ***************** End Of Article ****************** They Leave Town posted Message 9008 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 12:18:25 Subject: Re: Where IS Healy Family When Jerry Goes Nakie ? They leave town and take the keys with them so Jerry can't stumble back in after a night at the Astor. Its all his families fault for Jerry outside nude, yes, that's who to blame, don;t blame Jerry, he's innocent, he's a virgin. : : Healy's family has been tortured by the revelations. Think what it will be like for them with Healy's constant stream of drunken antics under public scrutiny! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poster Boy posted Message 9009 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 12:21:38 Subject: Cory He's a idiot! ***************** End Of Article ****************** jcalarmed posted Message 9010 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 12:22:16 Subject: cory cory suppresses the truth ***************** End Of Article ****************** Winterhalter posted Message 9011 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 12:22:56 Subject: Make my son a detective Please all you politicians, make my son a detective. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paint this posted Message 9012 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 12:30:14 Subject: Steve Lipski, CALL A LAWYER NOW Lipski goin' down. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Inside info posted Message 9013 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 12:39:04 Subject: Inside info Healy is broke but he is not going to spend any more money till election day he’s going to have 200 people in the heights and 200 downtown and 100 in each of the other districts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The REAL Insider posted Message 9014 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:05:49 Subject: Re: Inside info Fear sells, but your facts are way off, perhaps you should consider another name when you post on this board, like The Outsider. : Healy is broke but he is not going to spend any more money till election day he’s going to have 200 people in the heights and 200 downtown and 100 in each of the other districts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That ad is a joke, and so is he! posted Message 9015 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:07:25 Subject: Re: WATCH OUT! Manzo will Bankrupt Landlords! C'mon, nobody takes Manzo seriously! : PROPERTY OWNERS! Wake up! Look at the ad Manzo placed in the Journal today, it is already nearly impossible to evict a bad tenant, to say nothing of how long, and how much it costs, is this guy crazy? The ad, which speaks for itself, is the most ill-conceived policy, and if it is ever enacted, PROPERTY OWNERS WILL HAVE NO RIGHTS! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Loony Lou posted Message 9016 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:09:15 Subject: Re: Manzo & Tenants Rights Loony Lou wants it so bad he will promise anyone anything, how is he going to pay for it? He can't pay for any of his promises now? : Manzo can't be serious! A whole page ad for Tenant's rights? Property owner's are the backbone of this city, we pay the taxes! It will be a DISASTER if his policy is ever enacted! Did anyone read it, or think it through?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** He's a wack job posted Message 9017 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:10:23 Subject: Re: WATCH OUT! Manzo will Bankrupt Landlords! : C'mon, nobody takes Manzo seriously! : : PROPERTY OWNERS! Wake up! Look at the ad Manzo placed in the Journal today, it is already nearly impossible to evict a bad tenant, to say nothing of how long, and how much it costs, is this guy crazy? The ad, which speaks for itself, is the most ill-conceived policy, and if it is ever enacted, PROPERTY OWNERS WILL HAVE NO RIGHTS! ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCann Panzo Thug squad posted Message 9018 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:14:01 Subject: Cat Killers & Sign cutters Who put the dead cats out? You'll notice they don't cut Manzo signs, and Manzo doesn't have any dead animals at his headquarters................. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Eatme Manzo posted Message 9019 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:18:52 Subject: Re: Make my son a detective : Pecause the ones you have now do not know the difference between a B&T and a BLT! The Manzo cops really $uck, screw one of their own. Some brotherhood! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Are At the Astor Bar - 'The Healy Team' posted Message 9020 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:23:14 Subject: Dead Animals : Who put the dead cats out? You'll notice they don't cut Manzo signs, and Manzo doesn't have any dead animals at his headquarters................. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's About It - 500 votes posted Message 9021 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:24:44 Subject: Re: Inside info That will add up to Healy's vote total +/- , 500 votes total. : Healy is broke but he is not going to spend any more money till election day he’s going to have 200 people in the heights and 200 downtown and 100 in each of the other districts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HealyStopped Advertising posted Message 9022 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:26:29 Subject: Re: Inside info Healy stopped advertising a week ago, he's been cut off, no money no adds, latest fund raising events, dismal failures, a man and a campaign at the brink. : Fear sells, but your facts are way off, perhaps you should consider another name when you post on this board, like The Outsider. : : Healy is broke but he is not going to spend any more money till election day he’s going to have 200 people in the heights and 200 downtown and 100 in each of the other districts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 9023 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:34:43 Subject: Yeah Right !!! Glenn didn't discredit his opponents .. he just called them RACISTS !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LIPSKI TOLD THE JJ posted Message 9024 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:45:16 Subject: LIPSKI TOLD THE JJ LIPSKI... “ I WAS ARRESTED FOR POSSESSION AND BURGLARY TOOLS, SOME FRIENDS OF MINE STOLE A CAR!” ***************** End Of Article ****************** NO posted Message 9025 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:48:04 Subject: Re: LIPSKI TOLD THE JJ : LIPSKI... “ I WAS ARRESTED FOR POSSESSION AND BURGLARY TOOLS, SOME FRIENDS OF MINE STOLE A CAR!” Try a car battery you f u c k ing a s s hole m o t h e r f u c k e r ***************** End Of Article ****************** 2funny posted Message 9026 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:48:43 Subject: Re: LIPSKI TOLD THE JJ Wow I cant believe he admitted that but its on the 14th page of today’s jersey ***************** End Of Article ****************** Quotes from Gaughan and Healy posted Message 9027 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 13:57:52 Subject: I personally believe this is going to be won by a coalition of whites and Hispanics,” said GaughanIT WAS OVERHEARD THE OTHER NIGHT AT THECASINO, THE HEALY FUNDRAISER(AT THE BAR OF COURSE ) BILL GAUGHAN SAID WE GOT THE PUERTO RICAN BA$TARDS RIGHT WHERE WE WANT Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. ) on October 22, 2004 at 13:55:36: on October 25, 2004 at 15:35:18: Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. ) on October 22, 2004 at 13:55:36: Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. ) JJ 8/13/04'"I believe homosexuality is an illness you're born with," said Gaughan. “I personally believe this is going to be won by a coalition of whites and Hispanics,” said Gaughan IT WAS OVERHEARD THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE CASINO, THE HEALY FUNDRAISER(AT THE BAR OF COURSE ) BILL GAUGHAN SAID WE GOT THE PUERTO RICAN BA$TARDS RIGHT WHERE WE WANT Follow Ups: ***************** End Of Article ****************** We know it's you posted Message 9028 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 14:00:50 Subject: Tom Frichone Tom, you're an old man, stop tearing down signs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Its Not Good For You posted Message 9029 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 14:10:22 Subject: Watch Your Temper! Wow! Talk about out-of-control? So big deal, Lipski is a scond-story man, wouldn't be the first thug from JC to hold that title. What;s all the excitement about? IS his campaign picture one of his mug shots. : : LIPSKI... “ I WAS ARRESTED FOR POSSESSION AND BURGLARY TOOLS, SOME FRIENDS OF MINE STOLE A CAR!” : Try a car battery you f u c k ing a s s hole m o t h e r f u c k e r ***************** End Of Article ****************** Alcoholics Unanimous Behind Healy posted Message 9030 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 14:25:06 Subject: On the brink, have a drink -- The Healy Motto : Healy stopped advertising a week ago, he's been cut off, no money no adds, latest fund raising events, dismal failures, a man and a campaign at the brink. : : : Fear sells, but your facts are way off, perhaps you should consider another name when you post on this board, like The Outsider. : : : Healy is broke but he is not going to spend any more money till election day he’s going to have 200 people in the heights and 200 downtown and 100 in each of the other districts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Loser posted Message 9031 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 14:29:43 Subject: Re: Tom Frichone : Tom, you're an old man, stop tearing down signs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 9032 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 14:31:54 Subject: God bless you. Willie Flood For Mayor : Call it the Willie Flood Team NOT the Cunningham Team. Glenn didn't endorse Willie Flood and if he was alive he wouldn't do it now. He would have supported his teammate Lou Manzo. : Let her run on her own record, or lack thereof. She has already ripped Glenns coattails to schreds! : We endorse Willie Flood because she has the City's best interests at heart. ***************** End Of Article ****************** top cop posted Message 9033 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 14:49:27 Subject: Re: Not associated? Sure : If you believe that...I have a great bridge to sell you. : : The guy who took the pictures doesn't work for the Manzo campaign, in fact he said he isn't even registered to vote. : : he was sickened by having to see this drunken bloat out in his neighborhood and asked healy to have the decency to go inside. : : Its a big jump to tie this to the Manzo campaign, can it be that Lou is leading in the latest polling? : : : : : I believe that JC voters are disgusted with the dirty tricks kind of campaign being run by McManzo. I think Lou has blown his last chance to be Mayor by letting his name be associated with such a dirty campaign. Even if you don't think Healy should be Mayor...Vote for someone else...just not McManzo. We don't need that kind of garbage in City Hall again. If McManzo becomes mayor by using nude photographs of his opponent, then we will send a message to the political world that its back to the days of dirty politics in JC. I do hope that as a community we are better than that. :::::::an 18 year old man is walking with his (as yet unidentified) girlfriend to Pershing Field at 3am, sees a naked man sitting on the naked man's porch, does not call the police but rather takes a photo with his camera phone (bought by whom, how long ago?) and turns the photo over to Gerry McCann( who he knows how?) and people in this city believe this. God help us. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 9034 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 15:26:18 Subject: Behind County Lines Behind County Lines Urban Times News October 22, 2004 - October 29, 2004 "You can't make this stuff up!" Earl "the Hat" Morgan was the set-up man for Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith firing Elnardo Webster from Jersey City Employment & Training. Smith now gets the credit for firing the only African American lawyer serving the JCE&T. This just a few months after the firing of attorney Tony Ridley and his firm as the only legal representatives of color for the Jersey City Housing Authority. This is what Smith did to "keep us calm" during the turmoil of the days following the late Glenn D. Cunningham's departure. Morgan and Smith only attack African Americans and wonder why they are called Uncle Toms. Donald Brown, a recovering drug case who just so happens to work in the Essex County Sheriff's office, cast the deciding vote saying his decision was nothing personal. Uncle Harvey is on the Attack Acting Mayor Uncle Harvey is doing everything he can imagine to the Willie Flood campaign. He is paying $10 for every Willie Flood sign bought to his headquarters. He had her driver's car towed for reportedly being too close to a crosswalk. He arrested Flood supporter, the Rev. Ronnie Clark on charges of excessive parking tickets. At the debate on Wayne Street her aide had his muffler punctured by Smith vandals. At the same timeArnold "The Roach" Williams Arnold the Roach William tried to have her car towed. Uncle Harvey goon squads are now painting Flood signs black, and last but not least Uncle Harvey goons broke the window at Flood Headquarters on Martin Luther King Drive. Uncle Harvey has also threatened any city employee who puts Flood signs on their house. The Smith campaign is getting it's contributions the old fashioned way, in C-A-S-H. No troublesome checks will be used to confirm their spending, Smith and his associates are cashing out so they can report whatever amount they want to report. Smith Chief of Staff Roger "Catfish" Jones has made a deal with his old boss Gerry McCann not to attack Manzo so he will be put up as the candidate for State Assembly for the 31st district. Ed "Cheat" Cheatum has made a deal with Tom DeGise and William Gaughan to double-cross Smith to get his old job back. Speaking of Ed Cheatum, did you know that community activist June Jones is a relative of his who, by the strangest coincidence, has now received designation as a developer of 100 Monitor Street. I wonder if she is splitting these rewards with the community activists she supposedly represents. Look for Lou Manzo and Harvey Smith to announce their support for Bayonne Mayor Joe Doria for State Senator. Manzo has already stated it publicly and Smith is soon to follow. These two will get in bed with anybody. The only person who could be dumber than Harvey would have to be his twin. He has the nerve to wonder why Sandra Bolden Cunningham wouldn't allow him to come to the late Mayor's funeral, not knowing she heard him call her husband a p.ussy just days before he passed. As Sandra Cunningham said when Smith removed Mayor Cunningham's name from the plaque at Ercel Webb Park, 'this is a case of Harvey acting like a little boy and demonstrates he lacks the integrity and ability to be the mayor." Even Bret Schundler said that Smith had no character and supports Steven Lipski rather than Smith who ran on his ticket twice. So remember when you vote against Harvey Smith on November 2nd you are doing him a service, because your vote is stopping him from actually selling his soul to win. It is all our duties to help ourselves, and to save this man from himself. On his best days he is a disgrace. Let's make sure he disgraces us no longer. Melissa's All Smiles with Manzo ... For Now Lou Manzo recent political advertisement features him with former Councilwoman Melissa Holloway, a cousin to former Mayor Glenn 0. Cunningham. We can't figure what's up with Melissa. She didn't support her cousin when he was alive. She supported Harvey Smith for the Senate seat, and Joe Doria for the Assembly seat, against Cunningham and Manzo. How does he think she can help? He sure can't think she would use her Cunningham relation. She is such a close family member she sat apart from the rest of her relatives at his funeral. Gerry McCann recruited Hollaway to be the black face of the Manzo team, but she has turned against everyone who's made the mistake of trusting her, including her cousin. Remember Lou, she ran with Bret Schundler against you a few years back. Is there no honor among thieves? I'm afraid Gerry McCann will end Lou Manzo's attempt to be mayor for the fourth time. It can't be that important to Manzo if he has decided to embrace McCann and the Greenville Boys. That's as bad as Uncle Harvey using pictures of Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Jr. and Ray Charles in his campaign literature to make himself look like he's a friend to black people. Manzo is just another phony willing to do whatever it takes to get into office, Manzo and Smith make the Th scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz look like he's got a brain. Harvey's Time Is Coming On one of Uncle Harvey's cards he has a picture of Dr. King and a ouote saving "there comes a time one must take a position that is neither safe, popular, or political, but because it is right. This man has a perverted sense of what is right How about when he double-crossed Mayor Cunningham and went back to support Tom DeGise and Bill Gaughan? That was right? When he ran against Cunningham for State Senator trying to deceive black voters as a puppet for the Hudson County Democrats, was that right? When he lied to the people of Jersey City saying the Cunningham bond deal was not necessary and then came back with a watered down version of his own, was that right? When he has abandoned every citizen group he has claimed to support, for the Loews, for 110 First and for developers assuring local jobs, how have any of his actions been right? Once again the lying, double-crossing, acting Uncle Harvey is trying to dial back the involvement of Jersey City and give it all back to his friends. Let's get rid of this Uncle Tom once and for all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Witness posted Message 9035 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 15:30:45 Subject: I don't think so. Glenn called Willie EVERY morning and they planned the day. I know. Who are you to talk in Glenn's behalf? Glenn was backstabbed by LOUIE! And he knew Judas was in his camp. He was going to run against Glenn in May. : Call it the Willie Flood Team NOT the Cunningham Team. Glenn didn't endorse Willie Flood and if he was alive he wouldn't do it now. He would have supported his teammate Lou Manzo. : Let her run on her own record, or lack thereof. She has already ripped Glenns coattails to schreds! : We endorse Willie Flood because she has the City's best interests at heart. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bombshell posted Message 9036 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 15:37:58 Subject: McCann got Healy by the shorts Friday is almost here. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Air Head Willie posted Message 9037 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 15:56:01 Subject: Harvey Smith said you have to do more then Smile Tough one for Willie to do. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I was there. posted Message 9038 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:10:12 Subject: She did more than that last night at the debate. She made Uncle Harvey's punk a$$ run out of there. Him and that fag Roger Jones. And tell that punk A$$ cop to mind his business. : Tough one for Willie to do. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know your schedule. posted Message 9039 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:12:33 Subject: She made you run out with your tail between your legs.You didn't have another engagement. Dumb a$$. : Tough one for Willie to do. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Brother from the grave posted Message 9040 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:15:37 Subject: Dead men tell tales.... watch for stories only a sibling would know.... The Secret Will Come Out! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Lost Weekend posted Message 9041 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:24:37 Subject: Comming Up - jerry Healy : Friday is almost here. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 9042 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:30:25 Subject: I tried printing this ... and putting it on the bottom of my bird cage. Doesn't work as well as the news print. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou the Lipper posted Message 9043 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:30:53 Subject: What does it take? There is only one week left before the election. I have now practically promised everything under the sun, damm, won’t you vote for me this time? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Brother From Another Planet posted Message 9044 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:33:21 Subject: Very scary. The thought of more Glenn assassination stories scares the hell out of me. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Has Anyone Seem Healy posted Message 9045 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:41:03 Subject: What's Up Seems Healy has gone underground. His aides can't find him, and he's not at the Astor. Is Jerry plotting his final week's strategy or has given up? Tom Disguist, time to get your fighter up to answer the next round. Don't try and make it out that you were neutral in this thing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Endorsement Time posted Message 9046 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:41:33 Subject: Manzo recieves endorsement of Jackson & Cardwell Thursday morning it is to be announced that Willie Flood will be dropping out of the race and supporting the lead runner, Louis Manzo. Flood has been quoted" It's the right thing to do, its the only way the black people can be saved." Vote MANZO! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I saw posted Message 9047 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:49:41 Subject: A rare picture of Healy He's wearing clothes! ***************** End Of Article ****************** See, Jerry Can Do it! posted Message 9048 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:53:05 Subject: Re: A rare picture of Healy Go Jerry, Go! See, you can attract beautiful babes with your skivies on! : He's wearing clothes! ***************** End Of Article ****************** See, Jerry Can Do it! posted Message 9048 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:53:07 Subject: Re: A rare picture of Healy Go Jerry, Go! See, you can attract beautiful babes with your skivies on! : He's wearing clothes! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ask Degise this every time you see him posted Message 9049 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:54:26 Subject: Hey, Tom! Why out of over a quarter million people in Jersey City, the one you thought best to be Mayor is a drunk who passes out naked? : Seems Healy has gone underground. His aides can't find him, and he's not at the Astor. : Is Jerry plotting his final week's strategy or has given up? : Tom Disguist, time to get your fighter up to answer the next round. Don't try and make it out that you were neutral in this thing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Are One Ugly Dude! Jerry beats you in the looks department hands down! posted Message 9050 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 16:58:14 Subject: Re: Hey, Tom! Did Deguise step in front of a moving train or something? Let's get Tom on the Extreme Makeover show. : Why out of over a quarter million people in Jersey City, the one you thought best to be Mayor is a drunk who passes out naked? : : Seems Healy has gone underground. His aides can't find him, and he's not at the Astor. : : Is Jerry plotting his final week's strategy or has given up? : : Tom Disguist, time to get your fighter up to answer the next round. Don't try and make it out that you were neutral in this thing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lipski in cuffs posted Message 9051 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 17:04:13 Subject: Watch for this picture coming soon It seems Fred Flintkote hired a couple of thugs to "reason with" one of the other candidates. Of course in Hudson County, that means "take a baseball bat and beat the shyt out of him". Looks like Steve-O is gonna have to stand before the naked judge and plead for mercy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cashier posted Message 9052 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 17:14:44 Subject: Demellier and Amabile picked his pockets What did he expect when he gave those two the check book? Did he actually think there was any amount of money that would have lasted till election day? Those two were determined to squeeze every cent out of him as fast as they could...and they did. : Healy is broke but he is not going to spend any more money till election day he’s going to have 200 people in the heights and 200 downtown and 100 in each of the other districts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The truth will come out posted Message 9053 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 17:24:43 Subject: Lipski behind HAHAHEALY. com and paint throwing ? Lipski could be the one baiting the Manzo and Healy camps to fight one another. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I Wouldn't Discount Barney Rubble From Playing Dirty Tricks posted Message 9054 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 17:33:30 Subject: Re: Lipski behind HAHAHEALY. com and paint throwing ? : Lipski could be the one baiting the Manzo and Healy camps to fight one another. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Observer posted Message 9055 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 18:32:11 Subject: Re: LIPSKI TOLD THE JJ If you are going to quote someone at least take the time to type the entire quote: "When I was 18 I was arrested for possession of burglary tools because some friends of mine stole a car battery, and I got a second chance. Other people should too." I can only guess you didn't have the time to type the entire quote because you were too busy keeping your candidate in the closet. : LIPSKI... “ I WAS ARRESTED FOR POSSESSION AND BURGLARY TOOLS, SOME FRIENDS OF MINE STOLE A CAR!” ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just Watching posted Message 9056 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 18:36:29 Subject: Re: Lipski behind HAHAHEALY. com and paint throwing ? Yeah, right. Does anyone really believe he's smart enough to get 2 other campaigns to fight? : Lipski could be the one baiting the Manzo and Healy camps to fight one another. ***************** End Of Article ****************** gofers for jimmy posted Message 9057 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 21:08:37 Subject: dickson for mayor Dickson new write-in candidate. but he can't write. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joke Collector - You Gotta Be Kidding posted Message 9058 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 21:38:06 Subject: Good try but we know who plays in the dirt First ....Lipski isn't smart enough to cover his tracks. Second....McCann has been all over town taking credit for the photos. Third.....The last post sounds like some kind of acknowledgement that the "blackmail" photos are backfiring and really costing Manzo votes from seniors and people with a conscience. : Lipski could be the one baiting the Manzo and Healy camps to fight one another. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Therefore He Passes the HCDO Intelligence Test posted Message 9059 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 22:13:51 Subject: Re: dickson for mayor : Dickson new write-in candidate. but he can't write. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom posted Message 9060 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 22:28:46 Subject: I was voting for manzo but now i am going for healy The people of jersey city is tired of all the bullsh*t that is going on about healy he is the perfect man to be mayor he dont lie he dont cheat he dont steal he is just the rite man to do the job. so all you a$$holes that are talking garbage keep it up and healy will do just fine in the polls .thanks to all the manzo bull$hit the people of jersey city are turning away for manzo and thats the truth .all that stuff manzo put in the paper about your check is in the mail is bull$hit it had nothing to do with manzo it was the governor who sent the checks out i know i work for the state manzo is bull$hiting the people of jersey city he is a fake ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 9061 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 22:59:57 Subject: manzos picture manzo has his picture on the new jersey state police sex offenders web sits for endangering the welfare of a child and listed as a teir 3 witch means he will do it again so go to njsp.org and check it out ***************** End Of Article ****************** Of Manzo Swearing in as mayor posted Message 9062 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 23:41:02 Subject: Re: manzos picture Your comment is just one big pile of $hit, like yourself. : manzo has his picture on the new jersey state police sex offenders web sits for endangering the welfare of a child and listed as a teir 3 witch means he will do it again so go to njsp.org and check it out ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Must be on the HCDO payroll posted Message 9063 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 23:43:16 Subject: Healy the Perfect Man Your comments make about as much sense as Jerry's addicition to undressing in public. : The people of jersey city is tired of all the bullsh*t that is going on about healy he is the perfect man to be mayor he dont lie he dont cheat he dont steal he is just the rite man to do the job. so all you a$$holes that are talking garbage keep it up and healy will do just fine in the polls .thanks to all the manzo bull$hit the people of jersey city are turning away for manzo and thats the truth .all that stuff manzo put in the paper about your check is in the mail is bull$hit it had nothing to do with manzo it was the governor who sent the checks out i know i work for the state manzo is bull$hiting the people of jersey city he is a fake ***************** End Of Article ****************** They'll Do It To Anybody posted Message 9064 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 23:48:26 Subject: Re: Demellier and Amabile picked his pockets Demillier holds Jerry down, and Amible got a high-powered vacuum cleaning doing a job on Jerry's pockets. Image these two in a Healy administration? They would clean-out the treasury in no time flat. : What did he expect when he gave those two the check book? Did he actually think there was any amount of money that would have lasted till election day? Those two were determined to squeeze every cent out of him as fast as they could...and they did. : : Healy is broke but he is not going to spend any more money till election day he’s going to have 200 people in the heights and 200 downtown and 100 in each of the other districts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jcgirl posted Message 9065 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 23:53:35 Subject: "Somehow the Healy photo just worked its way into the hands of Gerald McCann" "Somehow the Healy photo just worked its way into the hands of Gerald McCann" ------------------------------------------------------------- From defacing signs to dead animals, Jersey City race ratchets it up a notch Saturday, October 23, 2004 By Maria Zingaro Conte and Jason Fink It's been a mayoral campaign marked by race-baiting, dead animals left on doorsteps and photos of one candidate naked. But to the voters of Jersey City, who are inured to such shenanigans, it's just another horse race. Longtime Hudson County political consultant Jack Shaw, who says he is sitting this election out, said defacing signs, conducting fake polls to level attacks on rival candidates and all the other take-no-prisoners tactics seen so often in local elections here serve mostly to rile up a candidate's workers and to give them a personal stake in the election - not to mention an adrenaline boost. "I think it's pretty much standard for a Jersey City mayoral election," Shaw said. "I think it keeps the troops happy, that there's activity going. "I don't think it makes a difference for the general public, it's for the insiders." The tone of this year's campaign doesn't seem more or less vicious than usual in a town where politics has always been a blood sport, said Rosalyn Browne, president of the Communipaw Avenue Block Association. "It seems like it always was," Browne said. "It's about what it's been in the past. It's about the same." But given what's gone on this election season, the uninitiated may find Shaw's and Browne's remarks hard to believe. Though the often underhanded campaign tactics may well serve to rile up the troops, as Shaw contends, many are also aimed squarely at influencing the voting public. The hardball began weeks ago, when photographs surfaced of mayoral candidate Jerramiah Healy, a city councilman, disrobed and slouching on his front stoop at 3 a.m. One of Healy's neighbors said he took the photos after he spotted Healy sitting on his front porch in his birthday suit. But a panicked Healy campaign offered up a very different explanation. The candidate had been out late at a party, Healy spokeswoman Maria Pignataro said. He'd had several drinks - Healy is quoted in a published report estimating the number at between six and eight - and was about to go to bed when he heard a commotion outside his house. Questioned about whether he should be drinking as a diabetic, he responded: "I am very healthy, considering I'm diabetic. I am still very healthy. If you know about diabetics, you know that they can carry on absolutely fully functional." Somehow the Healy photos worked their way into the hands of Gerald McCann, a former mayor and a campaign aide to state Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who is also running in the Nov. 2 election. McCann, who left office in 1991 and went to prison on a federal bank fraud conviction unrelated to his time as mayor, said he showed the photos to "maybe six or seven people" and that he didn't even show them to Manzo. Manzo denies any part in the photograph incident and said his campaign got copies of the pictures, just like all the other mayoral campaigns, from an acquaintance of the person who took the photos. But Pignataro blamed the Manzo campaign. "They don't have anything on (Healy) so they had to create a problem," she said. She added that someone - she did not speculate who - vandalized a Healy campaign office and splattered paint on the campaign manager's car. Acting Mayor and City Council President L. Harvey Smith has been the target of some particularly fierce attacks. Throughout the city, campaign posters featuring Smith, who is black, have been slapped with stickers bearing racially charged insults inferring he has sold out his community. The same insult was used against Smith last year when he ran against Glenn D. Cunningham - the late mayor whose term will be completed by the winner of this election - in the state Senate primary. In a separate incident, campaign workers for Smith were surprised - and a bit disturbed - when they found a dead cat on the doorstep of his Martin Luther King Drive headquarters. The acting mayor's son and campaign field coordinator, Kip Smith, sighed when asked about the incident. "There was a dead cat in front of the headquarters," he said matter-of-factly. "How it got there and who put it there I couldn't tell you." Animal Control came to take it away, Kip Smith said. And as if one dead animal were not enough for a political campaign, L. Harvey Smith, who was reluctant to discuss the incident, did point out that the cat was joined soon by a rat. According to Smith, a Department of Public Works truck that the city had dispatched to remove campaign signs from public property turned into a gruesome display when someone tied a dead rat to its bumper. "We know there are stupid people who do stupid things," Smith said. "We're trying to stay positive." Of course, every candidate says they are staying positive and denounces the more unseemly tactics employed on their behalf. Though dead animals are a grisly and - even for Hudson County - unusual weapon of political warfare, the perennial battles over campaign signs are going strong this year. All over the city, candidates' signs are being ripped down or obscured by the signs of an opponent. Other posters have been hung, illegally, on public property. "The sign stuff always happens in Jersey City campaigns," Manzo said. "I don't think the campaigns authorize it. I know I don't, but supporters do." Smith said: "We are not engaging in any of these things." Another candidate, Councilman Steve Lipski, was the target of what some are calling a "push poll" - the moniker given to the guerrilla telemarketing technique of cloaking negative information about another candidate in the guise of a poll. Lipski reports that about a dozen carefully selected, politically active people in Jersey City got calls from a purported pollster. The "pollster" asked how likely each person would be to vote for Lipski if they knew Lipski took money in exchange for a political favor. Lipski, who said he has done no such thing, condemned those responsible for the tactic. One Jersey City resident, speaking at a recent City Council meeting, confirmed that she had received such a call. "My gut reaction is that it's pretty bad that you would phrase an exaggeration of the truth like that," Lipski said. "I think it just cheapens the image of elected officials. I think it just keeps the dialogue at that level." On a more personal level, Manzo, who is unmarried, said recent television ads have insinuated that he is gay. He said he is not and, though he made a point of noting that sexual orientation should not make a difference in a political campaign, he nevertheless characterized it as attack politics. "That type of slime doesn't have a place in politics," he said. "I am a heterosexual. If I wasn't heterosexual it shouldn't make a difference if I was running for mayor." Ross London, a neighborhood activist who recently organized a candidates forum, said he would like to see more people focus on the issues. "It's kind of a given that there's going to be mud slung on both sides and since there's absolutely no way to prove the truth of it," he said. "Myself and other people that I know just focus on what the people have to say. . "I know that negative campaigning is effective for a lot of people, it's just not effective for me personally. It's kind of a cheap way to get votes." ***************** End Of Article ****************** DowntownJCResident posted Message 9066 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 26, 2004 at 23:58:30 Subject: JC Mayor Race Read the Tris McCall article here: http://www.trismccall.net/jersey_city_journal_oct.htm ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jack Meoff posted Message 9067 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 00:15:02 Subject: Re: Watch Your Temper! Okay I'll watch my temper while you watch my big c o c k go into your mother's mouth. You f u c k ing raging c u n t rage m o t h e r f u c k ing piece of s h it : Wow! Talk about out-of-control? : So big deal, Lipski is a scond-story man, wouldn't be the first thug from JC to hold that title. : What;s all the excitement about? IS his campaign picture one of his mug shots. : : : LIPSKI... “ I WAS ARRESTED FOR POSSESSION AND BURGLARY TOOLS, SOME FRIENDS OF MINE STOLE A CAR!” : : Try a car battery you f u c k ing a s s hole m o t h e r f u c k e r ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jack Meoff posted Message 9068 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 00:15:38 Subject: McCann is a F A G A T Okay I'll watch my temper while you watch my big c o c k go into your mother's mouth. You f u c k ing raging c u n t rage m o t h e r f u c k ing piece of s h it ***************** End Of Article ****************** Window Washer posted Message 9069 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 00:17:58 Subject: My Windows have paint on them To Whom it May Concern: Next time you shoot my house with paint you should be smart enough to remove the campaign sign from your car. I know where it came from and Trust ME noone on my block will vote for you. Thank you and have a good day! Ms. Window Washer the First ***************** End Of Article ****************** F U C K You ALL posted Message 9070 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 00:21:12 Subject: This Just In All the talk is about Healy's nude phote. But what they don't mention is how Lou Manzo j e r ked off when he saw it. McCann took the photo so that Lou could have some material to rub one out to & stay away from the gay bars until November ***************** End Of Article ****************** Better Get Your Gear Packed posted Message 9071 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 00:46:45 Subject: Gaughan and Degise I give these two losers about a week before they are asked to leave the county. Better get on jump on your packing now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** And A Healy Loser posted Message 9072 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 00:48:16 Subject: YOU ARE SICK AND DISGUISTING : All the talk is about Healy's nude phote. But what they don't mention is how Lou Manzo j e r ked off when he saw it. McCann took the photo so that Lou could have some material to rub one out to & stay away from the gay bars until November ***************** End Of Article ****************** With the vocabulary of a monkey posted Message 9073 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 00:52:36 Subject: You are a Swine Get a life you low life puss suc king Healy A44 kisser. What are you drunk, did you just leave the Astor? LOSER! Can you spell Loser, loser. : Okay I'll watch my temper while you watch my big c o c k go into your mother's mouth. You f u c k ing raging c u n t rage m o t h e r f u c k ing piece of s h it ***************** End Of Article ****************** They have been passes all over the city posted Message 9074 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 00:58:01 Subject: Everybody Got a Copy of the Photo Is there anybody in JC who hasn't gotten a copy of the Healy picture. Jerry McCann wasn't in the picture, didn't take the picture or make copies of the picture. The picture is what it is and Jerry HeALY admits that it is real, case closed, Healy loses. : "Somehow the Healy photo just worked its way into the hands of Gerald McCann" : ------------------------------------------------------------- : From defacing signs to dead animals, Jersey City race ratchets it up a notch : Saturday, October 23, 2004 : By Maria Zingaro Conte and Jason Fink : It's been a mayoral campaign marked by race-baiting, dead animals left on doorsteps and photos of one candidate naked. : But to the voters of Jersey City, who are inured to such shenanigans, it's just another horse race. : Longtime Hudson County political consultant Jack Shaw, who says he is sitting this election out, said defacing signs, conducting fake polls to level attacks on rival candidates and all the other take-no-prisoners tactics seen so often in local elections here serve mostly to rile up a candidate's workers and to give them a personal stake in the election - not to mention an adrenaline boost. : "I think it's pretty much standard for a Jersey City mayoral election," Shaw said. "I think it keeps the troops happy, that there's activity going. : "I don't think it makes a difference for the general public, it's for the insiders." : The tone of this year's campaign doesn't seem more or less vicious than usual in a town where politics has always been a blood sport, said Rosalyn Browne, president of the Communipaw Avenue Block Association. : "It seems like it always was," Browne said. "It's about what it's been in the past. It's about the same." : But given what's gone on this election season, the uninitiated may find Shaw's and Browne's remarks hard to believe. Though the often underhanded campaign tactics may well serve to rile up the troops, as Shaw contends, many are also aimed squarely at influencing the voting public. : The hardball began weeks ago, when photographs surfaced of mayoral candidate Jerramiah Healy, a city councilman, disrobed and slouching on his front stoop at 3 a.m. : One of Healy's neighbors said he took the photos after he spotted Healy sitting on his front porch in his birthday suit. : But a panicked Healy campaign offered up a very different explanation. : The candidate had been out late at a party, Healy spokeswoman Maria Pignataro said. He'd had several drinks - Healy is quoted in a published report estimating the number at between six and eight - and was about to go to bed when he heard a commotion outside his house. : Questioned about whether he should be drinking as a diabetic, he responded: "I am very healthy, considering I'm diabetic. I am still very healthy. If you know about diabetics, you know that they can carry on absolutely fully functional." : Somehow the Healy photos worked their way into the hands of Gerald McCann, a former mayor and a campaign aide to state Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who is also running in the Nov. 2 election. : McCann, who left office in 1991 and went to prison on a federal bank fraud conviction unrelated to his time as mayor, said he showed the photos to "maybe six or seven people" and that he didn't even show them to Manzo. : Manzo denies any part in the photograph incident and said his campaign got copies of the pictures, just like all the other mayoral campaigns, from an acquaintance of the person who took the photos. : But Pignataro blamed the Manzo campaign. : "They don't have anything on (Healy) so they had to create a problem," she said. : She added that someone - she did not speculate who - vandalized a Healy campaign office and splattered paint on the campaign manager's car. : Acting Mayor and City Council President L. Harvey Smith has been the target of some particularly fierce attacks. : Throughout the city, campaign posters featuring Smith, who is black, have been slapped with stickers bearing racially charged insults inferring he has sold out his community. : The same insult was used against Smith last year when he ran against Glenn D. Cunningham - the late mayor whose term will be completed by the winner of this election - in the state Senate primary. : In a separate incident, campaign workers for Smith were surprised - and a bit disturbed - when they found a dead cat on the doorstep of his Martin Luther King Drive headquarters. : The acting mayor's son and campaign field coordinator, Kip Smith, sighed when asked about the incident. : "There was a dead cat in front of the headquarters," he said matter-of-factly. "How it got there and who put it there I couldn't tell you." : Animal Control came to take it away, Kip Smith said. : And as if one dead animal were not enough for a political campaign, L. Harvey Smith, who was reluctant to discuss the incident, did point out that the cat was joined soon by a rat. : According to Smith, a Department of Public Works truck that the city had dispatched to remove campaign signs from public property turned into a gruesome display when someone tied a dead rat to its bumper. : "We know there are stupid people who do stupid things," Smith said. "We're trying to stay positive." : Of course, every candidate says they are staying positive and denounces the more unseemly tactics employed on their behalf. : Though dead animals are a grisly and - even for Hudson County - unusual weapon of political warfare, the perennial battles over campaign signs are going strong this year. : All over the city, candidates' signs are being ripped down or obscured by the signs of an opponent. Other posters have been hung, illegally, on public property. : "The sign stuff always happens in Jersey City campaigns," Manzo said. "I don't think the campaigns authorize it. I know I don't, but supporters do." : Smith said: "We are not engaging in any of these things." : Another candidate, Councilman Steve Lipski, was the target of what some are calling a "push poll" - the moniker given to the guerrilla telemarketing technique of cloaking negative information about another candidate in the guise of a poll. : Lipski reports that about a dozen carefully selected, politically active people in Jersey City got calls from a purported pollster. The "pollster" asked how likely each person would be to vote for Lipski if they knew Lipski took money in exchange for a political favor. Lipski, who said he has done no such thing, condemned those responsible for the tactic. : One Jersey City resident, speaking at a recent City Council meeting, confirmed that she had received such a call. : "My gut reaction is that it's pretty bad that you would phrase an exaggeration of the truth like that," Lipski said. "I think it just cheapens the image of elected officials. I think it just keeps the dialogue at that level." : On a more personal level, Manzo, who is unmarried, said recent television ads have insinuated that he is gay. : He said he is not and, though he made a point of noting that sexual orientation should not make a difference in a political campaign, he nevertheless characterized it as attack politics. : "That type of slime doesn't have a place in politics," he said. "I am a heterosexual. If I wasn't heterosexual it shouldn't make a difference if I was running for mayor." : Ross London, a neighborhood activist who recently organized a candidates forum, said he would like to see more people focus on the issues. : "It's kind of a given that there's going to be mud slung on both sides and since there's absolutely no way to prove the truth of it," he said. "Myself and other people that I know just focus on what the people have to say. . : "I know that negative campaigning is effective for a lot of people, it's just not effective for me personally. It's kind of a cheap way to get votes." ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Blacks and Hispanics Will be Happy posted Message 9075 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 01:01:52 Subject: Re: Goodbye Gaughan and Degise Why does Gaughan, Degise's poster boy show such hatred to blacks and hispanics. Is he that bigoted? What makes these HCDO operatives tick? Why are they supporting an alcoholic for mayor? : I give these two losers about a week before they are asked to leave the county. Better get on jump on your packing now. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban Times News posted Message 9076 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 04:34:04 Subject: HARVEY NOT SO UNBOUGHT? HARVEY NOT SO UNBOUGHT? Urban Times News October 22, 2004 - October 29, 2004 by Arnold Stovell Sources reveal that Acting Mayor Council President L. Harvey Smith has extensive and politically questionable ties to local development magnate Joseph Panepinto. The Acting Mayor and developer are reportedly working diligently behind the scenes to close several leasing agreements for city agencies before the November elections. According to reports, during a period of several months in 2000, Smith lived in one of several apartments owned by the local developer. At the time Smith's wife had issued a restraining order against the then Councilman at Large for alleged domestic violence and he stayed with Brian Dougherty, a former attorney for Bret Schundler whose connections in city government got him the nickname, the fixer. Smith reportedly stayed at the apartment rent-free, an ironic turn of events given the recent residency fallout disqualifying his political nemesis Ron Buonocore from the mayoral race, As a former president and chairman of the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency, Smith should be very aware of the impropriety associated with having a personal friend receive city contracts, but without another local authority to challenge him Mr. Smith is obviously prepared to take matters into his own increasingly suspect hands. Joe Panepinto is a prominent contributor to the Smith campaign and owns the office building on Journal Square, that houses ADP. With several businesses leaving the Square, space has been difficult to lease and moving city agencies into those spaces will relieve his burden. Smith now spearheads negotiations for favorable lease agreements with Panepinto Properties. Panepinto did not return phone messages left at his office. Mr. Smith, like several of his fellow candidates has piggy-backed on the notion of being unbiased and unbought, a rallying cry for the original Cunningham campaign that has been co-opted by Councilman Steve Lipski, who is also running for mayor. Lipski made public his connections to developer Steve Hymen and has allowed voters to openly question his forthrightness. In this relationship, Smith has not been forthcoming. Smith has not revealed that Joseph Panepinto is a previous benefactor and continues to make significant campaign contributions. Smith has not been forthright in his reasons for fast-tracking negotiation for millions of dollars in city agency lease agreements with Panepinto Properties. Smith has not been forthright in his intentions to fill the office vacancies left by the departure of companies from his friend's building in Journal Square with city workers who keep the Jersey City downtown area sustained. The Acting Mayor's office was not responsive to phone calls from Urban Times News on the subject. This is on top of recent allegations that Smith has already made arrangements with candidate Lou Manzo to solidify a partnership that would reconstitute his position in city government should the obvious occur. While accusing Willie Flood of dividing the African American vote, Smith is again deliberately using his candidacy to pursue his personal interests and sell out Jersey City citizens. So what has Smith done for Jersey City? He has gotten the opportunity to settle some scores. Ron Buonocore doesn't have his job anymore. He got as many of Cunningham's people out of the government as he could. He was able to appoint some friends to agency boards and threw in some appointments for friends of the Hudson County Democratic machine, just in case. He has solidified his relationship with developer/campaign contributer/friend, Joe Panepinto. He has intimidated city friends and family to make sure that the Reform Democratic organization will have no representation. He has used his Acting powers to frivolously avoid finding cooperative solutions for anything city citizens wanted. He grandstanded and bellowed about his actions being in the best interest of Jersey City as he sacrificed Friends of the Loews, the Artists of the warehouse district, and Jersey City with a debt refinancing initiative that will continue to leave us in debt. And like our acting national leader, also installed into office under the least credible of circumstances, Smith has used his authority to distort the facts and justify his mistakes. In typical Republican fashion, Smith is dividing citizens hoping to conquer them. We cannot ignore the continued actions of Jersey City's Acting Mayor Republican Chameleon. Following Republican example, L. Harvey Smith bases his credibility on being in his office already, and like his national counterpart, he ignores the fact that the people think he is doing a bad job. Like W. Bush, L. Smith uses back-door tactics and re-packages his failures as successes when we see and feel what is really happening to us every day. In typical Republican fashion, Smith uses scare tactics and intimidation against critics and opponents saying trust him, while claiming no accountability when he is wrong. Like George W., L. Harvey ignores the illicit and dangerous handiwork of his supporters, and pretends it is not his policy. With typical Republican cynicism, George W. and L. Harvey work to divide citizens, then solidify their supporters and create spoils for their cronies to share. In November, we are working hard to remove one Republican from office who cares more about his own goals and desires than the people he is supposed to represent. Let us pay equal attention to taking the Acting Mayor in Republican clothing out of our own mayor's office and return Jersey City to the path of prosperity blazed in brighter days before the yolk of an L. Harvey Smith. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9077 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 06:18:37 Subject: Asbury Park Press: Powerful congressman shuns boss label ASBURY PARK PRESS STAFF FILE PHOTO: THOMAS P. COSTELLO Rep. Robert Menendez, 50, a Democrat from Hudson County, says the notion of party bosses controlling politics in New Jersey is "demeaning" to elected officials, but "I think there are people with very significant influence in certain parts of the state." Powerful congressman shuns boss label Asbury Park Press 10/27/04 By KATHLEEN HOPKINS Rep. Robert Menendez, who emerged from the tough world of Hudson County politics to become the third-highest-ranking Democrat in the U.S. House of Representatives, says he doesn't think there are political bosses in New Jersey, only strong leaders in the Democratic Party. Rep. Robert Menendez, 50, a Democrat from Hudson County, says the notion of party bosses controlling politics in New Jersey is "demeaning" to elected officials, but "I think there are people with very significant influence in certain parts of the state." Some call him the boss of Hudson County. But does he see himself in that role? "No. I bristle at that term," he said. . . . For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9078 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 06:29:03 Subject: Jersey Journal: Vandals slop paint on signs, splatter homes Vandals slop paint on signs, splatter homes Property damage as Manzo foes strike Virginia Ave. block at 2 a.m. Jersey Journal Wednesday, October 27, 2004 By Maria Zingaro Conte People are calling the latest guerrilla tactic of Jersey City's mayoral campaign a new low, even for a city accustomed to plenty of electioneering mischief. According to police reports, during the wee hours of Sunday morning someone threw black paint onto political signs hanging in front of six houses on Virginia Avenue, in the process splattering paint on the homes, nearby cars and other property . . . For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou Klux Klan posted Message 9079 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 08:49:17 Subject: Danny Mcman, Gerry McCan, Ron Manzo Sheets for everyone ***************** End Of Article ****************** Give Me a Break! posted Message 9080 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 09:02:37 Subject: Boss Menendez Isn't The Boss? This guy has a hand in everything from who he will give his money to in a mayoral election to the color of the wall paint in the jails, ... and who gets the contract to do the painting. His statement does not right true, not even close. Ask Tom Degise where he bends down and prays to evry day. : ASBURY PARK PRESS STAFF FILE PHOTO: THOMAS P. COSTELLO : Rep. Robert Menendez, 50, a Democrat from Hudson County, says the notion of party bosses controlling politics in New Jersey is "demeaning" to elected officials, but "I think there are people with very significant influence in certain parts of the state." : Powerful congressman shuns boss label : Asbury Park Press : 10/27/04 : By KATHLEEN HOPKINS : Rep. Robert Menendez, who emerged from the tough world of Hudson County politics to become the third-highest-ranking Democrat in the U.S. House of Representatives, says he doesn't think there are political bosses in New Jersey, only strong leaders in the Democratic Party. : Rep. Robert Menendez, 50, a Democrat from Hudson County, says the notion of party bosses controlling politics in New Jersey is "demeaning" to elected officials, but "I think there are people with very significant influence in certain parts of the state." : Some call him the boss of Hudson County. But does he see himself in that role? : "No. I bristle at that term," he said. : . . . : For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry Healy's Goon Squad's Signature is All over THis One posted Message 9081 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 09:08:06 Subject: Re: Jersey Journal: Vandals slop paint on signs, splatter homes Between 2 and 2:30 Am, hmm, just after Jerry and his crew had to leave the Astor for the night. Making one more campaign stop on Virginia Ave. Let's heard it for Jerry Healy and his gang! Go Jerry Go! : Vandals slop paint on signs, splatter homes : Property damage as Manzo foes strike Virginia Ave. block at 2 a.m. : Jersey Journal : Wednesday, October 27, 2004 : By Maria Zingaro Conte : People are calling the latest guerrilla tactic of Jersey City's mayoral campaign a new low, even for a city accustomed to plenty of electioneering mischief. : According to police reports, during the wee hours of Sunday morning someone threw black paint onto political signs hanging in front of six houses on Virginia Avenue, in the process splattering paint on the homes, nearby cars and other property : . . . : For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Two Faces Have Louis posted Message 9082 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 09:10:01 Subject: Manzo eat your own words! In one of today’s Jersey Journal stories, Louis Manzo makes the following comment, "Each campaign has to take responsibility for the actions that are going on," Is this guy on the level? He denies any knowledge of any wrongdoing by his campaign followers and then makes this type of statement. He’s a nut. No wonder people voted against him so many times. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who From The healy Campaign is Responsible for the Vandalism? posted Message 9083 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:07:45 Subject: Answer The Question : In one of today’s Jersey Journal stories, Louis Manzo makes the following comment, "Each campaign has to take responsibility for the actions that are going on," : Is this guy on the level? He denies any knowledge of any wrongdoing by his campaign followers and then makes this type of statement. He’s a nut. No wonder people voted against him so many times. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Psychiatrist posted Message 9084 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:19:05 Subject: Re: Manzo is a nut! : In one of today’s Jersey Journal stories, Louis Manzo makes the following comment, "Each campaign has to take responsibility for the actions that are going on," : Is this guy on the level? He denies any knowledge of any wrongdoing by his campaign followers and then makes this type of statement. He’s a nut. No wonder people voted against him so many times. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mark posted Message 9085 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:27:02 Subject: Lipski Lipski you had my vote till I got your hate mail! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Louie Panzo posted Message 9086 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:29:29 Subject: OOh I can't wait to get my hands on that budget..!!! ALRIGHT!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Frichone posted Message 9087 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:31:14 Subject: Tom Frichone : : In one of today’s Jersey Journal stories, Louis Manzo makes the following comment, "Each campaign has to take responsibility for the actions that are going on," : : Is this guy on the level? He denies any knowledge of any wrongdoing by his campaign followers and then makes this type of statement. He’s a nut. No wonder people voted against him so many times. ***************** End Of Article ****************** And Healy a nudist. So your point is? posted Message 9088 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:33:20 Subject: Re: Manzo is a nut! : : In one of today’s Jersey Journal stories, Louis Manzo makes the following comment, "Each campaign has to take responsibility for the actions that are going on," : : Is this guy on the level? He denies any knowledge of any wrongdoing by his campaign followers and then makes this type of statement. He’s a nut. No wonder people voted against him so many times. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIM NERY posted Message 9089 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:33:32 Subject: MANZO CANT WIN. HEALY IS TEFLON TUFF I CANT BELIEVE IT LOU MANZO HAS THROWN EVERYTHING BUT THE KITCHEN SINK AT HEALY AND JERRY IS JUST LIKE TEFLON IT IS BOUNCING OFF HIM HE HAS RISEN IN THE POLLS WITH EVERY NEGATIVE AD AND TV NEWS ABOUT HIM. I GUESS THE VOTERS OF JERSEY CITY ARE GETTING TIRED OF LOUS ATTACKS THROUGH GERRY MCCANT THE CONVICTED FELON. LOU HAS SLIPPED IN THE POLLS IN THE PAST WEEK. IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE A HEALY VICTORY ON TUESDAT DESPITE ALL THE MUD SLINGING. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The adorable Jimmy DICKson is candidate #1. posted Message 9090 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:34:20 Subject: Re: Answer The Question : : In one of today’s Jersey Journal stories, Louis Manzo makes the following comment, "Each campaign has to take responsibility for the actions that are going on," : : Is this guy on the level? He denies any knowledge of any wrongdoing by his campaign followers and then makes this type of statement. He’s a nut. No wonder people voted against him so many times. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy is Broke posted Message 9091 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:34:33 Subject: Healy's Campaign Ads Are Missing - Why ? When is Healy going to take out newspaper ads ???? AFTER THE ELECTION ? ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Will you j_erks find yourself a new poster or teach this one how to post in various styles so it doesn't look like the same person posting under different names. posted Message 9092 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:37:21 Subject: Re: MANZO CANT WIN. HEALY IS TEFLON TUFF : I CANT BELIEVE IT LOU MANZO HAS THROWN EVERYTHING BUT THE KITCHEN SINK AT HEALY AND JERRY IS JUST LIKE TEFLON IT IS BOUNCING OFF HIM HE HAS RISEN IN THE POLLS WITH EVERY NEGATIVE AD AND TV NEWS ABOUT HIM. : I GUESS THE VOTERS OF JERSEY CITY ARE GETTING TIRED OF LOUS ATTACKS THROUGH GERRY MCCANT THE CONVICTED FELON. : LOU HAS SLIPPED IN THE POLLS IN THE PAST WEEK. : IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE A HEALY VICTORY ON TUESDAT DESPITE ALL THE MUD SLINGING. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Too busy buying paint to throw on Manzo signs and the houses and cars of people who support him. posted Message 9093 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:38:26 Subject: Re: Healy's Campaign Ads Are Missing - Why ? : When is Healy going to take out newspaper ads ???? AFTER THE ELECTION ? ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The fat is hanging low from the ceilings posted Message 9094 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:43:19 Subject: Let's start with the county budget Let's stratt by getting rid of Degise and Gaughan's family members, that alone will free up about $1 million. Cut off Degise's consultants contracts, that will free up another $20 million. It's a srart. Go Billy, Go! : ALRIGHT!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Breaking News posted Message 9095 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:45:35 Subject: Jerry Healy backing out of Mayoral Race A press conference is scheduled today at 2pm Pershing Field ice rink. Jerry Healy will throw in the towel. His family and friends have told him to leave the race to spare them as well as himself any more grief. The campaign is out of money and he is droping like lead in the polls. Healy was pushed into this race by Tom DeGise and Bill Gaughan.He might have had a chance to win but when you have Tony Amabile and Bud Demeleir behind you, running a negative camaign , you have no shot of winning. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Everyone is Jumping Ship posted Message 9096 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:46:58 Subject: Re: Healy's Campaign Ads Are Missing - Why ? Their all rats, like KING RAT Tony A$$mobile, their jumping of the Healy ship and crawling on their hands and knees back to Lou. A$$mobile has suc_ked Healys dry. He's good at that. : : When is Healy going to take out newspaper ads ???? AFTER THE ELECTION ? ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Have You Got the Paint ff your clothes yet? posted Message 9097 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:48:08 Subject: Amabile and Demelier : A press conference is scheduled today at 2pm Pershing Field ice rink. : Jerry Healy will throw in the towel. His family and friends have told him to leave the race to spare them as well as himself any more grief. The campaign is out of money and he is droping like lead in the polls. : Healy was pushed into this race by Tom DeGise and Bill Gaughan.He might have had a chance to win but when you have Tony Amabile and Bud Demeleir behind you, running a negative camaign , you have no shot of winning. : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** IQ Evaluator posted Message 9098 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:52:24 Subject: Healy Folks ain't to Bright Amazing that this guy can't find the CAPS LOCK key on his computer keyboard. Sounds like Healy's people are losing it. : I CANT BELIEVE IT LOU MANZO HAS THROWN EVERYTHING BUT THE KITCHEN SINK AT HEALY AND JERRY IS JUST LIKE TEFLON IT IS BOUNCING OFF HIM HE HAS RISEN IN THE POLLS WITH EVERY NEGATIVE AD AND TV NEWS ABOUT HIM. : I GUESS THE VOTERS OF JERSEY CITY ARE GETTING TIRED OF LOUS ATTACKS THROUGH GERRY MCCANT THE CONVICTED FELON. : LOU HAS SLIPPED IN THE POLLS IN THE PAST WEEK. : IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE A HEALY VICTORY ON TUESDAT DESPITE ALL THE MUD SLINGING. ***************** End Of Article ****************** . posted Message 9099 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 10:55:59 Subject: Re: Jerry Healy backing out of Mayoral Race Will he be wearing any clothing in this press conference or is he going to be in the nude? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry the ? posted Message 9100 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:01:45 Subject: Re: Jerry Healy Carnival Photo He will be nude but will stand behind an enclosure where you stick your head out. This way he pose as a; Indian, Strongman, Fat Lady, Clown, it goes on and on. : Will he be wearing any clothing in this press conference or is he going to be in the nude? ***************** End Of Article ****************** For Paint Ball Incident Last Night posted Message 9101 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:04:53 Subject: Lipski Arrested State Police called in, more to follow. ***************** End Of Article ****************** It's true I just spoke to posted Message 9102 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:10:42 Subject: Re: Jerry Healy backing out of Mayoral Race I just received word from Maria Pignataro and she was in tears. I can't believe this is happening. That damn Amabile. : A press conference is scheduled today at 2pm Pershing Field ice rink. : Jerry Healy will throw in the towel. His family and friends have told him to leave the race to spare them as well as himself any more grief. The campaign is out of money and he is droping like lead in the polls. : Healy was pushed into this race by Tom DeGise and Bill Gaughan.He might have had a chance to win but when you have Tony Amabile and Bud Demeleir behind you, running a negative camaign , you have no shot of winning. : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** MIKEIE G posted Message 9103 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:23:41 Subject: HEALY IS OUT BYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** PAYBACK IS COMING posted Message 9104 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:23:50 Subject: Lou Manzo, you are a DIRTY BASTARD. Putting that picture out was plain wrong. By doing that people hate you even more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ballot position will be locked posted Message 9105 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:24:51 Subject: Re: HEALY IS OUT : BYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Your Just Pis_sed Jerry imploded posted Message 9106 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:32:13 Subject: Its the Healy Camp That Hate Jerry is a big boy, time for him to take responsibility for his actions. Maybe he will learn something from this episode. Maybe you can;t run a campaign of hate, as per your comment on this post. Sick people, really sick. Don't despari, Mayor Manzo will be there to help, a wing of the new Med Center to be set aside for recovering Healy supporters. : By doing that people hate you even more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** John Connor posted Message 9107 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:34:45 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo, you are a DIRTY BASTARD. Putting that picture out was plain wrong. You people fail to realize that manzo wasn’t the one drunk and naked on his porch! And 5-10 people had a hold of those pictures. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Enemies posted Message 9108 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:35:08 Subject: Hey LOUIE you aren't out of the woods just yet. There's still 6 days left. ANYTHING can happen. : By doing that people hate you even more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JUSTEN posted Message 9109 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:37:22 Subject: Re: Lipski Arrested : State Police called in, more to follow. Arrested again didn’t he get arrested like 3 times when he was younger? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just Try SOmething Dirtbag !! posted Message 9110 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:40:53 Subject: Re: Hey LOUIE you aren't out of the woods just yet. : There's still 6 days left. ANYTHING can happen. : : By doing that people hate you even more. ***************** End Of Article ****************** sadd posted Message 9111 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:42:04 Subject: Re: Jerry Healy backing out of Mayoral Race : Will he be wearing any clothing in this press conference or is he going to be in the nude? :::Jimmy Dickson costs Healy too many votes in this close election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Look out of your Window - the Limo is Waiting to Take you to the AIrport posted Message 9112 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:46:00 Subject: Degise and Gaughan ANd... bye bye Degise and Gaughan. Your ride to the airport is waiting. : BYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** habitual Criminal posted Message 9113 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:46:35 Subject: Re: Lipski Arrested : : State Police called in, more to follow. : : Arrested again didn’t he get arrested like 3 times when he was younger? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY posted Message 9114 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:48:51 Subject: BYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY BYE BYE JERRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYBYE BYBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWABYE BYEBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYOWS AWAYYBYE BYE JERRY. DRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY ***************** End Of Article ****************** healy is out posted Message 9115 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 11:49:59 Subject: . DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWABYE BYEBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYOWS AWAYYBYE BYE JERRY. DRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY BYE BYE JERRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYBYE BYBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWABYE BYEBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYOWS AWAYYBYE BYE JERRY. DRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY NOT OUT OF RACE posted Message 9116 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 12:18:34 Subject: Re: I JUST SPOKE TO MARIA AND SHE IS LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY ABOUT WHAT A STUPID COMMENT YOU JUST MADE.HEALY IS NOT DROPPING OUT!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let's Make a List All the known Healy People posted Message 9117 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 12:19:37 Subject: Re: BYE BYE Demelier, Amabile, etc lets start a list of all the Healy people, this way we can post it on the front of city hall. Security will be instructed to ask those on the list to leave and never come back. ps. This will include current City employees who have gone out of their way to work for Healy. All will be gone. : BYE BYE JERRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYBYE BYBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWABYE BYEBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYOWS AWAYYBYE BYE JERRY. DRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY ***************** End Of Article ****************** Old Hand posted Message 9118 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 12:35:14 Subject: Re: BYE BYE Demelier, Amabile, etc Demellier and Amabile....sure...a couple of useless idiots. But to start an INTRIM administration by dumping anyone who wasn't "with" you.... that's justr plain stupid. Even if Lou makes it in with great numbers...he has to run again in the Spring. Why build your opposition's campaign for them by firing or targetting people? That's just amateurish. : lets start a list of all the Healy people, this way we can post it on the front of city hall. Security will be instructed to ask those on the list to leave and never come back. : ps. This will include current City employees who have gone out of their way to work for Healy. All will be gone. : : : BYE BYE JERRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYBYE BYBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWABYE BYEBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYOWS AWAYYBYE BYE JERRY. DRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY ***************** End Of Article ****************** JJ posted Message 9119 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 12:36:42 Subject: JJ reports Healy i s out Healy has dropped out of the race ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 9120 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 12:41:48 Subject: Sad to say Healy is has dropped out I just received the call and I am stunned. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JOHN posted Message 9121 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 12:41:57 Subject: Re: BYE BYE Demelier, Amabile, etc Neither he nor anyone on getnj.com speaks for Lou Manzo! : : lets start a list of all the Healy people, this way we can post it on the front of city hall. Security will be instructed to ask those on the list to leave and never come back. : : ps. This will include current City employees who have gone out of their way to work for Healy. All will be gone. : : : : : BYE BYE JERRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYBYE BYBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWABYE BYEBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYOWS AWAYYBYE BYE JERRY. DRBYE BYE JERRY. DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAYINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dropping out or not. posted Message 9122 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 12:50:45 Subject: Dropping out or not. Ill tell you what if he’s dropping out or not he is still an embarrassment! I have a friend in Kentucky that called me on Monday and asked me who’s the naked mayor? And asked me if he’s an alcoholic. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lost souls posted Message 9123 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 12:59:08 Subject: Healy camp is devistated First out of money and now out of a candidate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** relieved posted Message 9124 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:02:54 Subject: Re: Healy camp is devistated : First out of money and now out of a candidate. :::::/Dickson urges calm. "I will not be restrained". ***************** End Of Article ****************** Where do they go posted Message 9125 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:04:31 Subject: Healy supporters to Lipski ? Lipski may get them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lipski going to the slammer posted Message 9126 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:07:40 Subject: Re: Healy supporters to Lipski ? : Lipski may get them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Come On ALready, that Limo is not going to wait all day! posted Message 9127 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:10:42 Subject: Deguise & Gaughan Your roommate will be Bertran Aristede, and yuou will get some race sensitivity taining while in Africa. ***************** End Of Article ****************** AND VICE VERSA posted Message 9128 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:11:21 Subject: LIPSKI WAS WITH HEALY CAMP THE WHOLE TIME STEVE LIPSKI IS BOSSED BY AMABILE,DEMELEIR,DEGISE AND GAUGHAN SINCE THE DEATH OF MAYOR CUNNINGHAM. LIPSKI WAS THEIR BACK UP PLAN WHEN AND IF HEALY TUMBLED. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JGJKJH posted Message 9129 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:13:58 Subject: Re:HEALY FOR MAYOR :THAT IS FALSE INFO WE ARE NOT DEVISTATED! HEALY IS IN IT TO WIN IT.. GO JERRY! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY IN THE RACE TO WIN posted Message 9130 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:15:23 Subject: Re: Sad to say Healy is has dropped out :I JUST MADE A CALL AND HEALY IS NOT DROPPING OUT.. GIVE ME A BREAK YOU PEOPLE WILL TRY ANYTHING GET A LIFE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY FOR MAYOR posted Message 9131 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:19:00 Subject: Re: HEALYFORMAYOR : BS HE DID NOT DROP OUT NOR WILL HE!!!!!!!!!11GO JERRY ***************** End Of Article ****************** BRADLEY posted Message 9132 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:22:36 Subject: Re:HEALY FOR MAYOR OF BEACH : :THAT IS FALSE INFO WE ARE NOT DEVISTATED! HEALY IS IN IT TO WIN IT.. GO JERRY! YOU WILL BE A GREAT MAYOR IN BRADLEY BEACH AS LONG AS YOU DON'T P E E IN PUBLIC ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY FOR MAYOR posted Message 9133 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:29:36 Subject: Re: Healy supporters to Lipski ? : NO ONE WILL GET THE HEALY SUPPORTERS BESIDES HEALY HE IS NOT OUT OF THIS RACE. WHY WOULD HE BE? DID MANZO AND MCCANN ACTUALLY THINK ALL THE BS THEY ARE DOING IS GOING TO MAKE HEALY QUIT. HA!!!! NEVER HE IS IN THE RACE TO STAY! AND WANTS TO BE MAYOR OF JERSEY CITY NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE BUT THE PEOPLE OF JERSEY CITY! HE IS THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB ! GO JERRY! GOD BLESS! HEALY FOR MAYOR! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY FOR MAYOR posted Message 9134 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:32:52 Subject: Re: Healy camp is devistated : YOUR THE POOR LOST SOUL! FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO WITH YOUR TIME INSTEAD OF MAKING UP THIS NONSENSE. HEALY IS NOT OUT OF THE RACE ! GO JERRY!HEALY! HEALY! HEALY! HEALY! HEALY! HEALY! HEALY! HEALY!HEALY! HEALY! HEALY! HEALY! HEALY! HEALY! GO JERRY!!! YOU HAVE ALL OUR SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!1 HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HEALY FOR MAYOR!!! HEALY HEALY HEALY HEALY!!!!! GOD BLESS ! HEALY FOR MAYOR! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GB ,N . posted Message 9135 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:33:32 Subject: Re: LIPSKI WAS WITH HEALY CAMP THE WHOLE TIME : BS! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY FOR MAYOR posted Message 9136 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:34:25 Subject: Re:HEALY FOR MAYOR OF JC : : :THAT IS FALSE INFO WE ARE NOT DEVISTATED! HEALY IS IN IT TO WIN IT.. GO JERRY! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GO JERRY!!!!!!!!!!1 posted Message 9137 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:35:29 Subject: Re: Healy camp is devistated : : BS HEALY IS OUR NEXT MAYOR OF JC!! GO JERRY!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jose Cuevo posted Message 9138 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:49:30 Subject: Re:HEALY FOR MAYOR OF JC Jose Cuevo : : : :THAT IS FALSE INFO WE ARE NOT DEVISTATED! HEALY IS IN IT TO WIN IT.. GO JERRY! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9139 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:51:07 Subject: Rumor of State Police investigation of campaign threat There is a rumor making the rounds that the NJ State Police are investigating a campaign threat. The story is that two unsavory characters claim that one candidate for Jersey City Mayor offered to pay to have another assaulted. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why posted Message 9140 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 13:57:14 Subject: Why are the State Police investigatin and not JCPD : There is a rumor making the rounds that the NJ State Police are investigating a campaign threat. The story is that two unsavory characters claim that one candidate for Jersey City Mayor offered to pay to have another assaulted. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nude Mayor posted Message 9141 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 14:13:45 Subject: Oh Yeah! The residents of JC Can't Wait for the ... Oh boy! what dope are you smoking? You sure sound like a dope. : : NO ONE WILL GET THE HEALY SUPPORTERS BESIDES HEALY HE IS NOT OUT OF THIS RACE. WHY WOULD HE BE? DID MANZO AND MCCANN ACTUALLY THINK ALL THE BS THEY ARE DOING IS GOING TO MAKE HEALY QUIT. HA!!!! NEVER HE IS IN THE RACE TO STAY! AND WANTS TO BE MAYOR OF JERSEY CITY NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE BUT THE PEOPLE OF JERSEY CITY! HE IS THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB ! GO JERRY! GOD BLESS! HEALY FOR MAYOR! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JJ 8/13/04'I believe homosexuality is an illness you're born with, said Gaughan. posted Message 9142 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 14:21:17 Subject: Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. JJ 8/13/04'"I believe homosexuality is an illness you're born with," said Gaughan. ***************** End Of Article ****************** L_ _ _ _ K _ _ _ _ posted Message 9143 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 14:25:22 Subject: Lipski and the (Fill in the Blanks) : : There is a rumor making the rounds that the NJ State Police are investigating a campaign threat. The story is that two unsavory characters claim that one candidate for Jersey City Mayor offered to pay to have another assaulted. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He is a pervert posted Message 9144 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 14:26:18 Subject: Healy exposes himself to Hispanic Youths The Political Insider decided to ask the man who said he shot the infamous photo how it all happened. Meet Hector Rodriguez, 18, who lives on Booraem Avenue, a block over from Healy's house. Rodriguez went to Dickinson High School and now is at a technical school and trying to get his GED. Rodriguez said he was walking with his girlfriend, Stacie, by Healy's house on Ferry Street at about 3 a.m. "We were chilling and on our way to Pershing Field walking on Ferry," said Rodriguez. He said they saw a man, sans clothing, sitting on his front porch steps. "My girlfriend told me that he was the guy running for mayor," Rodriguez said. "I didn't know him, but we walked up to him and I told the dude to get inside his house." Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs. "My girlfriend asked him if he was drunk and he said he just had a few beers," Rodriguez said. "I told him if he doesn't get inside his house, I was going to take his picture." Healy didn't move and Rodriguez pulled out a Sprint cell phone and took the fuzzy but startling picture. "(Healy) got up and took a light blue, button-down collared shirt from the pile of clothes and wrapped it around himself," said Rodriguez. "I took three more photographs." Why is he coming out now? "I heard what they were saying - that (Healy) was lured out of the house," Rodriguez said. "I lured no one out. If I did, I would've brought a Kodak, a real camera." "It doesn't matter what they say," said Rodriguez. "I got the photos on my cell with the time and date stamped on them. All that matters is that he did what he did." ***************** End Of Article ****************** No sense, Does Brett know of this posted Message 9145 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 14:33:29 Subject: Schundler , Lipski and the KKK I received a mailing form Lipski for Mayor with a photo of Brett Schundler endorsing Lipski. I also received a mailing from Lipski for Mayor with a KKK guy. Does Schundler endorse that or is Lipski losing using Schundler's photo without his knowledge ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** DICKSON posted Message 9146 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 14:42:04 Subject: Re: dickson for mayor : : Dickson new write-in candidate. but he can't write. i can smell oop's i mean spell VICTORY!!!!!!!! GO HEALY!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** DICKSON posted Message 9146 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 14:42:04 Subject: Re: dickson for mayor : : Dickson new write-in candidate. but he can't write. i can smell oop's i mean spell VICTORY!!!!!!!! GO HEALY!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** DICKSON posted Message 9147 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 14:42:10 Subject: Re: dickson for mayor : : Dickson new write-in candidate. but he can't write. i can smell oop's i mean spell VICTORY!!!!!!!! GO HEALY!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hate Rumor Mongers posted Message 9148 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 14:49:53 Subject: GET NJ Now in the Rumor Biz I thought this forum was supposed to be for ideas and discussions. Now its just for personal assaults, mudslinging and rumors. Well at least we get what we pay for. Nothing. : There is a rumor making the rounds that the NJ State Police are investigating a campaign threat. The story is that two unsavory characters claim that one candidate for Jersey City Mayor offered to pay to have another assaulted. ***************** End Of Article ****************** It doesn't matter what they say, said Rodriguez. I got the photos on my cell with the time and date stamped on them. All that matters is that he did what he did. posted Message 9149 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 14:55:42 Subject: "They're not coming to grips with the reality that Jerry Healy has a serious addiction problem. I ran the Healy campaign and the DeGise campaign against Glenn," McCann said. "They all knew about Healy's problem then." "They're not coming to grips with the reality that Jerry Healy has a serious addiction problem. I ran the Healy campaign and the DeGise campaign against Glenn," McCann said. "They all knew about Healy's problem then." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs.Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. posted Message 9150 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 14:58:26 Subject: Healy exposes himself to Hispanic, youths Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bombshell posted Message 9151 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 15:09:40 Subject: McCann to send Healy to the Showers Friday the dirt comes out. ***************** End Of Article ****************** dial posted Message 9152 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 15:17:18 Subject: Re: McCann to send Healy to the Showers : Friday the dirt comes out. ;;;;The dirt is already out. Mc Cann is the dirt. Manzo unleashed this filth on the city . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Air Head Willie posted Message 9153 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 15:20:23 Subject: HarveySmith said it is really sad how dumb she is Maybe UTN will hire her to deliver the paper. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Old Grandad posted Message 9154 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:07:24 Subject: Jose Cuevo along with Jack Daniels and Johnnie Walker to endorse Healy Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs.Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. 14:58 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Old Grand Dad! posted Message 9155 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:12:43 Subject: You Forgot ... : Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs.Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. 14:58 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thursday, October 28th, 8PM to Midnight, 547 MLK Drive posted Message 9156 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:13:26 Subject: Vote or Die! Get out the Vote Party for Mayor L. Harvey Smith Stand up and be heard! Get out the Vote Party for Mayor L. Harvey Smith Ruthies Supper Club, 547 MLK Drive Thursday, October 28th, 8PM to Midnight FREE admission Drink specials, Refreshments served R & B, Meringue, Hip Hop, Dance Hall Reggae For more information and RSVP: 201-736-3093 ***************** End Of Article ****************** : Stand up and be heard! Get out the Vote Party for Mayor L. Harvey Smith posted Message 9157 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:16:16 Subject: : Stand up and be heard! Get out the Vote Party for Mayor L. Harvey Smith : Stand up and be heard! Get out the Vote Party for Mayor L. Harvey Smith : Ruthies Supper Club, 547 MLK Drive : Friday, October 29th, 6PM to Midnight : FREE admission : Drink specials, Refreshments served : R & B, Meringue, Hip Hop, Dance Hall Reggae : For more information and RSVP: 201-736-1063 ***************** End Of Article ****************** the seat of the problems posted Message 9158 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:17:37 Subject: Healy has two a$$holes Trying to keep up drinking with Bill Gaughan Jerry Healy passed out stewed. The police were going to drive him home so they were asking Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan where Healy Lived. Gaughan just kept nipping at a fifth of Fleischmann's and singing Oh Danny Boy. Tom Degise said that he didn't know where Healy live because Lois always told the driver where to go. So then the police asked what Healy's home telephone number was so they could call and get the address. Gaughan just kept swigging away at the bottle and now was singing Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra. Degise said that he didn't know what Healy's phone number was because Lois always dialed the phone for him. So the police then asked where Healy's kids lived. They would get in touch with them and find out from them where Healy lived. Gaugan took another drink out of the bottle and then wailed into McNamara'a Band. Degise said that he had no idea how to get in touch with Healy's children because Lois kept track of that for him. At their wit's end, the policeman said listen, you're backing this guy for mayor you got to know something about him. Well Degise says Jerry Healy has two a$$holes. Taking a step back the cop says, listen, you don't know where he lives, you don't know his phone number, you don't know how to get in touch with his kids, but you knows that Healy has two a$$holes! How do you know that? Well Degise says every night when Healy, Gaughan, and I goes to the Tavern up the block, the bartender yells here comes that guy Jerry with the two a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FREE admission Sat. October 30th, 6PM to Midnight posted Message 9159 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:19:06 Subject: Ruthies Supper Club, 547 MLK Drive Get out the Vote Party for Mayor L. Harvey Smith Stand up and be heard! Get out the Vote Party for Mayor L. Harvey Smith : Ruthies Supper Club, 547 MLK Drive : Sat. October 30th, 6PM to Midnight : FREE admission : Drink specials, Refreshments served : R & B, Meringue, Hip Hop, Dance Hall Reggae : For more information and RSVP: 201-736-1763 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period posted Message 9160 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:24:26 Subject: Re: Healy exposes himself to Hispanic, youths : Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. Trying to keep up drinking with Bill Gaughan Jerry Healy passed out stewed. The police were going to drive him home so they were asking Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan where Healy Lived. Gaughan just kept nipping at a fifth of Fleischmann's and singing Oh Danny Boy. Tom Degise said that he didn't know where Healy live because Lois always told the driver where to go. So then the police asked what Healy's home telephone number was so they could call and get the address. Gaughan just kept swigging away at the bottle and now was singing Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra. Degise said that he didn't know what Healy's phone number was because Lois always dialed the phone for him. So the police then asked where Healy's kids lived. They would get in touch with them and find out from them where Healy lived. Gaugan took another drink out of the bottle and then wailed into McNamara'a Band. Degise said that he had no idea how to get in touch with Healy's children because Lois kept track of that for him. At their wit's end, the policeman said listen, you're backing this guy for mayor you got to know something about him. Well Degise says Jerry Healy has two a$$holes. Taking a step back the cop says, listen, you don't know where he lives, you don't know his phone number, you don't know how to get in touch with his kids, but you knows that Healy has two a$$holes! How do you know that? Well Degise says every night when Healy, Gaughan, and I goes to the Tavern up the block, the bartender yells here comes that guy Jerry with the two a$$holes. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy exposes himself to Hispanic, youths Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period posted Message 9161 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:29:12 Subject: They're not coming to grips with the reality that Jerry Healy has a serious addiction problemMr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. They're not coming to grips with the reality that Jerry Healy has a serious addiction problem Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THOMAS DONNER posted Message 9162 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:44:04 Subject: ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE ALLEGATIONS THE ALLEGATIONS OF MR HEALY EXPOSING HIMSELF ARE ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE .IF TRYING TO RUIN A MANS REPUTATION AND LIFE IS A WAY TO WIN AN ELECTION THAN SHAME ON YOU,I HAVE KNOWN THE HEALY FAMILY FOR AMNY YEARS AND THEY ARE A FINE CHRISTIAN FAMILY WHOSE CHILDREN WENT TO ST NICKS SCHOOL. HE HAS SERVED THE CITY AND COUNTY IN VARIOUS POSITIONS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ANYONE WHO KNOWS HIM WELL WILL STAND UP FOR HIS CHARACTER AS A FINE GENTLEMAN. THIS SLANDER OF HIM AND HIS FAMILY WILL BACKFIRE ON LOU MANZO AND HIS CRIMINAL CRONIES I ALSO KNOW LOU MANZO AND THOUGHT HE WAS A MAN OF GOOD STANDING BUT HAVE SINCE CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE IS CONDONING ALL THIS GARBAGE. SO IF HE LOSES HE HAS HIMSELF TO BLAME FOR LISTENING TO HIS CRIMINAL FRIENDS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 9163 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:46:03 Subject: RICCO OUR HEART FELT CONDOLANCES GO OUT TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 9164 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:48:26 Subject: Re: Healy has two a$$holes : Trying to keep up drinking with Bill Gaughan Jerry Healy passed out stewed. The police were going to drive him home so they were asking Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan where Healy Lived. Gaughan just kept nipping at a fifth of Fleischmann's and singing Oh Danny Boy. Tom Degise said that he didn't know where Healy live because Lois always told the driver where to go. So then the police asked what Healy's home telephone number was so they could call and get the address. Gaughan just kept swigging away at the bottle and now was singing Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra. Degise said that he didn't know what Healy's phone number was because Lois always dialed the phone for him. So the police then asked where Healy's kids lived. They would get in touch with them and find out from them where Healy lived. Gaugan took another drink out of the bottle and then wailed into McNamara'a Band. Degise said that he had no idea how to get in touch with Healy's children because Lois kept track of that for him. At their wit's end, the policeman said listen, you're backing this guy for mayor you got to know something about him. Well Degise says Jerry Healy has two a$$holes. Taking a step back the cop says, listen, you don't know where he lives, you don't know his phone number, you don't know how to get in touch with his kids, but you knows that Healy has two a$$holes! How do you know that? Well Degise says every night when Healy, Gaughan, and I goes to the Tavern up the block, the bartender yells here comes that guy Jerry with the two a$$holes. BUT THE TRUTH IS IM AN A$$HOLE FOR WRITING THIS HA HA ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period posted Message 9165 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:53:13 Subject: Re: ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE ALLEGATIONSMr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period : THE ALLEGATIONS OF MR HEALY EXPOSING HIMSELF ARE ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE .IF TRYING TO RUIN A MANS REPUTATION AND LIFE IS A WAY TO WIN AN ELECTION THAN SHAME ON YOU,I HAVE KNOWN THE HEALY FAMILY FOR AMNY YEARS AND THEY ARE A FINE CHRISTIAN FAMILY : WHOSE CHILDREN WENT TO ST NICKS SCHOOL. : HE HAS SERVED THE CITY AND COUNTY IN VARIOUS POSITIONS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ANYONE WHO KNOWS HIM WELL WILL STAND UP FOR HIS CHARACTER AS A FINE GENTLEMAN. THIS SLANDER OF HIM AND HIS FAMILY WILL BACKFIRE ON LOU MANZO AND HIS CRIMINAL CRONIES : I ALSO KNOW LOU MANZO AND THOUGHT HE WAS A MAN OF GOOD STANDING BUT HAVE SINCE CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE IS CONDONING ALL THIS GARBAGE. SO IF HE LOSES HE HAS HIMSELF TO BLAME FOR LISTENING TO HIS CRIMINAL FRIENDS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Picture Confirms How Sick and Depraved Healy Is posted Message 9166 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 16:55:09 Subject: Healy Admitted He is A Drunk and Nudist To The New YorkTimes - This is a FACT !!!! : THE ALLEGATIONS OF MR HEALY EXPOSING HIMSELF ARE ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE .IF TRYING TO RUIN A MANS REPUTATION AND LIFE IS A WAY TO WIN AN ELECTION THAN SHAME ON YOU,I HAVE KNOWN THE HEALY FAMILY FOR AMNY YEARS AND THEY ARE A FINE CHRISTIAN FAMILY : WHOSE CHILDREN WENT TO ST NICKS SCHOOL. : HE HAS SERVED THE CITY AND COUNTY IN VARIOUS POSITIONS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ANYONE WHO KNOWS HIM WELL WILL STAND UP FOR HIS CHARACTER AS A FINE GENTLEMAN. THIS SLANDER OF HIM AND HIS FAMILY WILL BACKFIRE ON LOU MANZO AND HIS CRIMINAL CRONIES : I ALSO KNOW LOU MANZO AND THOUGHT HE WAS A MAN OF GOOD STANDING BUT HAVE SINCE CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE IS CONDONING ALL THIS GARBAGE. SO IF HE LOSES HE HAS HIMSELF TO BLAME FOR LISTENING TO HIS CRIMINAL FRIENDS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period posted Message 9167 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 17:01:01 Subject: Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period ***************** End Of Article ****************** MARIA DIAZ posted Message 9168 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 17:09:44 Subject: MR RODRIQUEZ A DRUG DEALER FROM BOOREAM AVE WHO SELLS AT PERSHING FIELD, WAS PAID BY GERRY MCCANN TO SAY WHAT HE SAID ABOUT MR HEALY. AND IS NOW SCARED BECAUSE HE LIED TO THE NEWSPAPER. RODRIQUEZ IS A DRUG DEALER FROM BOOREAM AVE AND WAS WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND WALKING TO PERSHING FIELD TO MAKE A CONTACT TO SELL CRACK TO,HIS CELL PHONE IS HIS CONNECTION TO HIS BUYERS. WHAT IS AN 18 YEAR OLD WALKING TO PERSHING FIELD AT 3 AM FOR ANY REASON EXCEPT TO SELL HIS DRUGS. HE HAS AN EXTENSIVE POLICE RECORD AND IS WELL KNOW TO ALL NORTH DISTRICT OFFICERS. HIS SHORT ADULT RECORD IS ON FILE. THE TRUTH IS THAT HE IS A LIAR AND FOR A PRICE WILL FABRICATE ANY STORY, AND HE DID. NOW THIS IS THE TRUTH AND ASK ANY NORHT DISTRICT OFFICER ***************** End Of Article ****************** according to Rodriguez, posted Message 9169 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 17:10:20 Subject: Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs.Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs.Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't ***************** End Of Article ****************** Porky Pig Menendez posted Message 9170 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 17:12:58 Subject: Comes out the winner.He gave to all of them Xanadu lives.Jersey City dies. ***************** End Of Article ****************** More McCann Thugs posted Message 9171 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 17:13:29 Subject: Re: MR RODRIQUEZ A DRUG DEALER FROM BOOREAM AVE WHO SELLS AT PERSHING FIELD, WAS PAID BY GERRY MCCANN TO SAY WHAT HE SAID ABOUT MR HEALY. AND IS NOW SCARED BECAUSE HE LIED TO THE NEWSPAPER. : RODRIQUEZ IS A DRUG DEALER FROM BOOREAM AVE AND WAS WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND WALKING TO PERSHING FIELD TO MAKE A CONTACT TO SELL : CRACK TO,HIS CELL PHONE IS HIS CONNECTION TO HIS BUYERS. WHAT IS AN 18 YEAR OLD WALKING TO PERSHING FIELD AT 3 AM FOR ANY REASON EXCEPT TO SELL HIS DRUGS. HE HAS AN EXTENSIVE POLICE RECORD AND IS WELL KNOW TO ALL NORTH DISTRICT OFFICERS. HIS SHORT ADULT RECORD IS ON FILE. THE TRUTH IS THAT HE IS A LIAR AND FOR A PRICE WILL FABRICATE ANY STORY, AND HE DID. : NOW THIS IS THE TRUTH AND ASK ANY NORHT DISTRICT OFFICER McCann is also getting other ex-cons to give false statements ***************** End Of Article ****************** HEALY MAY HAVE EXPOSED HIMSELF TO HER posted Message 9172 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 17:20:31 Subject: MARIA DIAZ is gay HEALY MAY HAVE EXPOSED HIMSELF TO HER ***************** End Of Article ****************** GO Healy! posted Message 9173 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 17:20:34 Subject: See CH2 Tonight @ 5:30 See Healy, himself, in his own words, tonight on Channel 2 @ 5:30. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy Admitted he is a Drunken Nudist posted Message 9174 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 17:20:38 Subject: Healy Admitted to being Drunk & Nude : RODRIQUEZ IS A DRUG DEALER FROM BOOREAM AVE AND WAS WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND WALKING TO PERSHING FIELD TO MAKE A CONTACT TO SELL : CRACK TO,HIS CELL PHONE IS HIS CONNECTION TO HIS BUYERS. WHAT IS AN 18 YEAR OLD WALKING TO PERSHING FIELD AT 3 AM FOR ANY REASON EXCEPT TO SELL HIS DRUGS. HE HAS AN EXTENSIVE POLICE RECORD AND IS WELL KNOW TO ALL NORTH DISTRICT OFFICERS. HIS SHORT ADULT RECORD IS ON FILE. THE TRUTH IS THAT HE IS A LIAR AND FOR A PRICE WILL FABRICATE ANY STORY, AND HE DID. : NOW THIS IS THE TRUTH AND ASK ANY NORHT DISTRICT OFFICER ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie Flood For Mayor! posted Message 9175 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 17:22:40 Subject: Positive campaign...for a change If you are tired of all this mudslinging, and you just want someone who will will serve with dignity, vote for Willie Flood, a woman with class, and a positive campaign. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy is a Joke posted Message 9176 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 17:23:56 Subject: Will Healy Be Sober & Wearing Clothes ?? : See Healy, himself, in his own words, tonight on Channel 2 @ 5:30. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie Flood! The RIGHT Choice posted Message 9177 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 17:27:50 Subject: Tired of the hate.... If you are tired of all the anger, hate, and bitterness of the campaign, vote for Willie Flood, we need a change from all this! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy Living in Fanasty World posted Message 9178 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 17:53:28 Subject: Healy Looked & Sounded Nervous - Stammering and Avoided the Questions about His Public Drunkeness & Public Nudism : See Healy, himself, in his own words, tonight on Channel 2 @ 5:30. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ontou posted Message 9179 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 18:10:07 Subject: Re: Healy has two a$$holes : : Trying to keep up drinking with Bill Gaughan Jerry Healy passed out stewed. The police were going to drive him home so they were asking Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan where Healy Lived. Gaughan just kept nipping at a fifth of Fleischmann's and singing Oh Danny Boy. Tom Degise said that he didn't know where Healy live because Lois always told the driver where to go. So then the police asked what Healy's home telephone number was so they could call and get the address. Gaughan just kept swigging away at the bottle and now was singing Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra. Degise said that he didn't know what Healy's phone number was because Lois always dialed the phone for him. So the police then asked where Healy's kids lived. They would get in touch with them and find out from them where Healy lived. Gaugan took another drink out of the bottle and then wailed into McNamara'a Band. Degise said that he had no idea how to get in touch with Healy's children because Lois kept track of that for him. At their wit's end, the policeman said listen, you're backing this guy for mayor you got to know something about him. Well Degise says Jerry Healy has two a$$holes. Taking a step back the cop says, listen, you don't know where he lives, you don't know his phone number, you don't know how to get in touch with his kids, but you knows that Healy has two a$$holes! How do you know that? Well Degise says every night when Healy, Gaughan, and I goes to the Tavern up the block, the bartender yells here comes that guy Jerry with the two a$$holes. : BUT THE TRUTH IS IM AN A$$HOLE FOR WRITING THIS HA HA ::well written, Briget. You'll make a great teacher! ***************** End Of Article ****************** WILLIE FLOOD THE RIGHT CHOICE posted Message 9180 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 18:17:29 Subject: MS FLOOD KNOWS !!! MS FLOOD SOLD OUT TO THE HCDO ***************** End Of Article ****************** me and my shadow posted Message 9181 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 18:17:44 Subject: full moon will disappear tonight As Healy puts his pants back on! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Vote Flood the only African-american posted Message 9182 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 18:25:48 Subject: City Hall needs a African-american woman Keep the power no more Harvey . Harvey Smith wants to give power to latinos and whites asians we are the power and they know. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9183 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 18:40:27 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** From the Miami Herald! Healy has made Jersey City the laughing stock of the Nation! posted Message 9184 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 19:43:36 Subject: Nude photos, felons, and 11 candidates: it's election time in Jersey City Nude photos, felons, and 11 candidates: it's election time in Jersey City STEVE STRUNSKY Associated Press JERSEY CITY, N.J. - From the photo seeming to show one candidate passed out naked on his front stoop, to the convicted felon advising another candidate's campaign, the special election for mayor of Jersey City is, in the words of one former official, a "wild and woolly" contest. There are 11 candidates on the Nov. 2 ballot to replace Glenn D. Cunningham, who died of a heart attack in May. There would have been an even dozen if a state judge had not disqualified former Police Chief Ronald Buonocore for failing to prove he had lived in the city for the past year. "Things seem to be getting wild and woolly," said former Mayor Bret D. Schundler, New Jersey's 2001 Republican gubernatorial nominee, who launched his political career in a special election here in 1992, topping a field of 19 candidates. Tuesday's race for control of the state's second largest city, and one of its strongest economic engines, is to fill Cunningham's unexpired term ending June 30. A separate election is to fill his state Senate term. Unlike a regular mayoral election, which requires more than 50 percent of the vote, the candidate who receives the most support in the special election wins. Schundler, for example, got just 18 percent in his victory. The contest includes several rivals who were once allies in the Cunningham camp: former Councilwoman Willie Flood, who heads the political organization Cunningham founded; Assemblyman Lou Manzo, a Cunningham running mate in last November's legislative race; and Councilman Steve Lipski, a strong Cunningham's supporter. Flood has the endorsement of Cunningham's widow, Sandra Bolden Cunningham, who decided not to run herself, and who had originally endorsed Buonocore. Council President L. Harvey Smith, who became acting mayor upon Cunningham's death, is running on what he says is his record of hiring police, building housing and balancing the city's $370 million budget. There are also several political unknowns who qualified for ballot slots, which only required a minimum of 100 signatures from among the city's 119,000 registered voters. One of the best-known candidates, Councilman Jeremiah Healy, has drawn the most unwanted attention of the race after photographs were taken of him early the morning of Aug. 21 by a teenager walking past Healy's house. "I was walking down the block and I see this guy naked on his front porch, and my friend tells me he's running for mayor, so I go running back and start taking his picture," said Hector Rodriguez, 18, who used a camera phone. "My friend, she just started buggin' out." Before snapping the pictures, Rodriguez said he tried to talk Healy into going inside, but he could not budge the candidate. Rodriguez said he initially considered using the photos to blackmail Healy, though he decided against it. He said he doesn't support any of the candidates, and he only learned that the photo had been posted on the Internet after he gave a copy to a friend. Healy did not deny that the photograph was authentic, or that he had been drinking alcohol. But he insisted he had been lured outside by someone banging his trash can, and that he was not naked when he walked out. "This was 3 a.m., and I was at my house. I was on my porch, and someone comes around and pulls a towel off of me," said Healy, who did not accuse Rodriguez. "I certainly don't think it has any relevancy. It's just another dirty political trick." Healy said he suspected it was someone connected with the Manzo campaign and its political strategist, former Mayor Gerald McCann, who was ousted as mayor in 1992 following a federal bank fraud conviction, but has remained politically active. "Some people will do anything to win election, and I think these two gentlemen, Louis Manzo and Gerry McCann, are those kinds of people," Healy said. McCann denied that he or the Manzo campaign were involved. "I think a lot of people are failing to focus on the real issue," McCann said, "which is Healy's conduct." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anthony Chiaponne to Endorse posted Message 9185 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 19:45:22 Subject: STEVE LIPSKI Chiaponne may ask the voters to vote Nader for president Healy for mayor because he knows Manzo .do not deserve the support of JC............ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City crazy...... posted Message 9186 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 19:47:51 Subject: QUESTION Is Chiaponne drunk .............. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wanted Ads posted Message 9187 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 21:01:46 Subject: Please see Janitor City Hall needs "an" African American woman... Please see the City Hall Janitor for details. ***************** End Of Article ****************** FRIEND posted Message 9188 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 21:02:10 Subject: LARRY.C STOP POSTING MY FRIEND THEY GOT YOU 333 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 9189 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 21:27:11 Subject: Two Losers Chiappone and Lipski are both going to lose big. Figures that Chiappone would back a 3rd loser, Nader. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's funny!!!! posted Message 9190 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 21:42:09 Subject: Re: full moon will disappear tonight : As Healy puts his pants back on! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 9191 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 21:45:46 Subject: Re: LARRY.C :::Give it up baby. There's only like 6 days to go. There's a full moon and you're not here. I am lonely. The beer is cold and I am hot. Come home. Leave the Manzo signs at Jerry's house, daddy has no more room either. : STOP POSTING MY FRIEND THEY GOT YOU 333 ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 9192 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 21:49:01 Subject: Re: ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE ALLEGATIONS :::Please baby. No more games. Just come home. Leave the Manzo signs at Jerry's. : THE ALLEGATIONS OF MR HEALY EXPOSING HIMSELF ARE ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE .IF TRYING TO RUIN A MANS REPUTATION AND LIFE IS A WAY TO WIN AN ELECTION THAN SHAME ON YOU,I HAVE KNOWN THE HEALY FAMILY FOR AMNY YEARS AND THEY ARE A FINE CHRISTIAN FAMILY : WHOSE CHILDREN WENT TO ST NICKS SCHOOL. : HE HAS SERVED THE CITY AND COUNTY IN VARIOUS POSITIONS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ANYONE WHO KNOWS HIM WELL WILL STAND UP FOR HIS CHARACTER AS A FINE GENTLEMAN. THIS SLANDER OF HIM AND HIS FAMILY WILL BACKFIRE ON LOU MANZO AND HIS CRIMINAL CRONIES : I ALSO KNOW LOU MANZO AND THOUGHT HE WAS A MAN OF GOOD STANDING BUT HAVE SINCE CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE IS CONDONING ALL THIS GARBAGE. SO IF HE LOSES HE HAS HIMSELF TO BLAME FOR LISTENING TO HIS CRIMINAL FRIENDS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy has three a$$holes - You forgot Jimmy posted Message 9193 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 21:50:21 Subject: Re: Healy has two a$$holes : : Trying to keep up drinking with Bill Gaughan Jerry Healy passed out stewed. The police were going to drive him home so they were asking Tom Degise and Bill Gaughan where Healy Lived. Gaughan just kept nipping at a fifth of Fleischmann's and singing Oh Danny Boy. Tom Degise said that he didn't know where Healy live because Lois always told the driver where to go. So then the police asked what Healy's home telephone number was so they could call and get the address. Gaughan just kept swigging away at the bottle and now was singing Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra. Degise said that he didn't know what Healy's phone number was because Lois always dialed the phone for him. So the police then asked where Healy's kids lived. They would get in touch with them and find out from them where Healy lived. Gaugan took another drink out of the bottle and then wailed into McNamara'a Band. Degise said that he had no idea how to get in touch with Healy's children because Lois kept track of that for him. At their wit's end, the policeman said listen, you're backing this guy for mayor you got to know something about him. Well Degise says Jerry Healy has two a$$holes. Taking a step back the cop says, listen, you don't know where he lives, you don't know his phone number, you don't know how to get in touch with his kids, but you knows that Healy has two a$$holes! How do you know that? Well Degise says every night when Healy, Gaughan, and I goes to the Tavern up the block, the bartender yells here comes that guy Jerry with the two a$$holes. : BUT THE TRUTH IS IM AN A$$HOLE FOR WRITING THIS HA HA ***************** End Of Article ****************** /????????? posted Message 9194 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 21:59:59 Subject: Re: Schundler , Lipski and the KKK : I received a mailing form Lipski for Mayor with a photo of Brett Schundler endorsing Lipski. I also received a mailing from Lipski for Mayor with a KKK guy. Does Schundler endorse that or is Lipski losing using Schundler's photo without his knowledge ? i ? lipski lie's just like MANZO lie's WE WILL NOT LET YOU STEAL THIS ELECTION WE ARE TO STRONGE!!!!!!! BYE! BYE! BILLY!!!! SIGNED? jimmmmmyyyyyy@HAHALOSER.COM!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NADER FOR PRESIDENT posted Message 9195 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 22:14:25 Subject: NADER CHAPONNE AND LIPSKI ONE FUTURE CHAPONNE VISION IS GREAT WITH LIPSKI AS MAYOR AND NADER AS PRESIDENT THE HOMELESS THE TENANTS WILL HAVE A GREAT FUTURE WE HAVE TO TAX THOSE PEOPLE WITH PROPERTIES TO GIVE TO THE POOR LEFT MOVEMENT IS WHAT WE NEED,CHAPONNE IS LEADERFROM THE LEFT THAT WE NEED. ***************** End Of Article ****************** My understanding is that Nader is with Willie Flood posted Message 9196 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 22:28:31 Subject: Re: NADER CHAPONNE AND LIPSKI ONE FUTURE : CHAPONNE VISION IS GREAT WITH LIPSKI AS MAYOR AND NADER AS PRESIDENT THE HOMELESS THE TENANTS WILL HAVE A GREAT FUTURE WE HAVE TO : TAX THOSE PEOPLE WITH PROPERTIES TO GIVE TO THE POOR LEFT MOVEMENT IS WHAT WE NEED,CHAPONNE IS LEADERFROM THE LEFT THAT WE NEED. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Details are: posted Message 9197 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 22:33:53 Subject: Re: Please see Janitor : City Hall needs "an" African American woman... : Please see the City Hall Janitor for details. Please contact THE HONARABLE SANDY for misinformation Bunnacore or willie or Healy or ???? ***************** End Of Article ****************** jimmy posted Message 9198 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 22:35:56 Subject: manzo guys got caught taking down signs the manzo group got caught taking down signs on south street and hit a girl it is a shame how a firefighter and a jcia employee and the lowlife peace of $hit dirtbag billy from south street got caught putting a boxcutter to a girls neck what a shame wait till this go on the news and the papers tomorrow i hope they sue the $hit out ove you . manzo your father should of shot that load down sink you $cumbag you are a loser ***************** End Of Article ****************** Keep what ppower posted Message 9199 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 22:38:16 Subject: Re: City Hall needs a African-american woman : Keep the power no more Harvey . Harvey Smith wants to give power to latinos and whites asians we are the power : and they know. The power of Bobby , Joe and Drayton Sandy words the legacy is no more the legacy is in heaven with GLENN. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Student posted Message 9200 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 22:46:03 Subject: Manzo's Gustapo I am a student at Hudson County Community College. Today Lou Manzo had the nerve to walk in escorted by two police officers. His goons run through the city assaulting people, ripping down signs, and beating women. Is he afraid someone will finally give him what he has coming for turning a blind eye to this behavior? How ironic that the only violent campaign in the city now has security detail. My oh my Manzo really is Looney Lou after all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Education, Pride, Values. posted Message 9201 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 22:46:55 Subject: Re: manzo guys got caught taking down signs : the manzo group got caught taking down signs on south street and hit a girl it is a shame how a firefighter and a jcia employee and the lowlife peace of $hit dirtbag billy from south street got caught putting a boxcutter to a girls neck what a shame wait till this go on the news and the papers tomorrow i hope they sue the $hit out ove you . manzo your father should of shot that load down sink you $cumbag you are a loser Mr.Jimmy maybe Manzo guys got caught taking sing down but you INGLISH is taking the entire city down to hell ..we are a disaster with candidates naked ,felons ,nuts and second class people we are almost the toilet of NJ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 9202 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 22:50:25 Subject: Re: Tired of the hate.... : If you are tired of all the anger, hate, and bitterness of the campaign, vote for Willie Flood, we need a change from all this! are you F u C k I n G KIDDING ME PUT THAT LOW LIFE IN OFFICE SO SHE CAN DO THE SAME THING CUNNINGHAM DID S h I t all for the black and forget about everybody eles get lost you piece of S h I t ***************** End Of Article ****************** Escort Manzo posted Message 9203 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 22:51:48 Subject: Re: Manzo's Gustapo : I am a student at Hudson County Community College. Today Lou Manzo had the nerve to walk in escorted by two police officers. His goons run through the city assaulting people, ripping down signs, and beating women. Is he afraid someone will finally give him what he has coming for turning a blind eye to this behavior? How ironic that the only violent campaign in the city now has security detail. My oh my Manzo really is Looney Lou after all. Escort Manzo from McCann =felon,Ron=indictment =guilty and many more with records in his campaing and we know who they are........ ***************** End Of Article ****************** jimmy posted Message 9204 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 22:53:36 Subject: Re: manzo guys got caught taking down signs : : the manzo group got caught taking down signs on south street and hit a girl it is a shame how a firefighter and a jcia employee and the lowlife peace of $hit dirtbag billy from south street got caught putting a boxcutter to a girls neck what a shame wait till this go on the news and the papers tomorrow i hope they sue the $hit out ove you . manzo your father should of shot that load down sink you $cumbag you are a loser : Mr.Jimmy maybe Manzo guys got caught taking sing down : but you INGLISH is taking the entire city down to hell ..we are a disaster with candidates naked ,felons ,nuts and second class people we are almost the toilet of NJ. YOUR MOTHER ***************** End Of Article ****************** RICCO posted Message 9205 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 22:57:02 Subject: Re: Manzo's Gustapo : : I am a student at Hudson County Community College. Today Lou Manzo had the nerve to walk in escorted by two police officers. His goons run through the city assaulting people, ripping down signs, and beating women. Is he afraid someone will finally give him what he has coming for turning a blind eye to this behavior? How ironic that the only violent campaign in the city now has security detail. My oh my Manzo really is Looney Lou after all. : Escort Manzo from McCann =felon,Ron=indictment =guilty : and many more with records in his campaing and we know : who they are........ WAS IT TWO POLICE OFFICERS OR TO LITTLE BOY ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr Jimmy posted Message 9206 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 22:58:44 Subject: Re: manzo guys got caught taking down signs : : : the manzo group got caught taking down signs on south street and hit a girl it is a shame how a firefighter and a jcia employee and the lowlife peace of $hit dirtbag billy from south street got caught putting a boxcutter to a girls neck what a shame wait till this go on the news and the papers tomorrow i hope they sue the $hit out ove you . manzo your father should of shot that load down sink you $cumbag you are a loser : : Mr.Jimmy maybe Manzo guys got caught taking sing down : : but you INGLISH is taking the entire city down to hell ..we are a disaster with candidates naked ,felons ,nuts and second class people we are almost the toilet of NJ. : YOUR MOTHER DO YOU HAVE ONE? WE ARE SURE SHE DID NOT TEACH YOU THAT TYPE OF INGLISH. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOU MOTHER. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not Aligned with Anyone posted Message 9207 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 23:13:07 Subject: Anyone Giving Odds? I guess the next Mayor is going to be Louis Manzo. I don't work for him, or any other candidate. Wasn't even sure if I would vote for Mayor. But reading this board for the past few days, it seems that there is a real fear in Manzo's opposition. You can see it in their posts. So it seems he is the one to beat. Lipsky has people seeding this board a lot...but its really obvious who they are. And Mr. Healy has his defenders...who I respect for their persistence...but those pics....ugh. And although I read a lot about Mayor Smith...I have no idea what he stands for. So I guess my money is on Louis Manzo for Mayor. Anyone giving odds? : I am a student at Hudson County Community College. Today Lou Manzo had the nerve to walk in escorted by two police officers. His goons run through the city assaulting people, ripping down signs, and beating women. Is he afraid someone will finally give him what he has coming for turning a blind eye to this behavior? How ironic that the only violent campaign in the city now has security detail. My oh my Manzo really is Looney Lou after all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** chance encounter posted Message 9208 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 27, 2004 at 23:28:40 Subject: Re: LARRY.C : STOP POSTING MY FRIEND THEY GOT YOU 333 ;;;Hi, Briget. Looking forward to next Super Sunday. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bayguy posted Message 9209 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 00:28:04 Subject: Not true- how stupid are you guys? Chiappone is running as an independent Democrat and is not supporting Nader. Thats just the way they put them on the ballot. Chiappone is going to rock and shock! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bayguy posted Message 9210 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 00:29:42 Subject: Chiappone running independent not with Nader a##hole : CHAPONNE VISION IS GREAT WITH LIPSKI AS MAYOR AND NADER AS PRESIDENT THE HOMELESS THE TENANTS WILL HAVE A GREAT FUTURE WE HAVE TO : TAX THOSE PEOPLE WITH PROPERTIES TO GIVE TO THE POOR LEFT MOVEMENT IS WHAT WE NEED,CHAPONNE IS LEADERFROM THE LEFT THAT WE NEED. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No Way! posted Message 9211 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 01:05:22 Subject: Re: Will Healy Be Sober & Wearing Clothes ?? A tiger cannot change his strinps, go healy, nude all the way! the hell with the electorate, we love you Jerry, the gang from the Astor. : See Healy, himself, in his own words, tonight on Channel 2 @ 5:30. ***************** End Of Article ****************** My oh my posted Message 9212 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 01:09:02 Subject: Re: Manzo's Gustapo ::You are a credit to your parents. I am sure they are paying good money to raise a lying sack of $hit. No one has been assaulted and no women have been beaten. Signs being ripped down is a right of passage in Jersey City. Escorted by 2 police officers? Maybe they were on an overtime detail, which he would pay for. Maybe Mr. Manzo needed them because Mr. Buonocore, an alleged law enforcement officer, has made threats against him. Or maybe this is just another lie junior. : I am a student at Hudson County Community College. Today Lou Manzo had the nerve to walk in escorted by two police officers. His goons run through the city assaulting people, ripping down signs, and beating women. Is he afraid someone will finally give him what he has coming for turning a blind eye to this behavior? How ironic that the only violent campaign in the city now has security detail. My oh my Manzo really is Looney Lou after all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 9213 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 01:15:50 Subject: Re: manzo guys got caught taking down signs :::I'm getting tired baby. You curse, make up lies, throw paint on signs and houses, damage cars and bring every damn sign in the city home. Please. I'm begging you to get help. If not, I'm going to divorce you cause I can't take it anymore. I don't care if you are back sleeping on park benches. Now get your A$$ home you drunken bon of a sitch. : the manzo group got caught taking down signs on south street and hit a girl it is a shame how a firefighter and a jcia employee and the lowlife peace of $hit dirtbag billy from south street got caught putting a boxcutter to a girls neck what a shame wait till this go on the news and the papers tomorrow i hope they sue the $hit out ove you . manzo your father should of shot that load down sink you $cumbag you are a loser ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soon to be in the Papers Courts posted Message 9214 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 04:41:59 Subject: Woman attacked by McManzo goons A woman in the Heights was attacked by McManzo goons when she confronted them for ripping down signs on her block. The young woman was knocked to the ground and a razor knife put to her throat. Her father was coming up the block and stopped the attack. The father and daughter did get desciptions and a license plate of the car that was waiting for the goons as they used it for their escape. They also recognized one of the thugs as a local junkie from South Street. The father and daughter are pressing charges. It's coming full circle as junkie's are coming forward for cash to tell stories of how the McManzo goons have been paying bounties for opponent signs. ***************** End Of Article ****************** City of Jersey City posted Message 9215 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 05:15:59 Subject: MAYOR, POLICE BRASS WELCOME LARGEST POLICE RECRUIT CLASS IN YEARS MAYOR, POLICE BRASS WELCOME LARGEST POLICE RECRUIT CLASS IN YEARS ***************** End Of Article ****************** And you are still a lyin', stupid loser Harvey! posted Message 9216 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 07:01:15 Subject: Re: MAYOR, POLICE BRASS WELCOME LARGEST POLICE RECRUIT CLASS IN YEARS : MAYOR, POLICE BRASS WELCOME LARGEST POLICE RECRUIT CLASS IN YEARS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor Factor posted Message 9217 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 07:18:06 Subject: Will make his endorsement Tomorrow And the winner will be?Jersey City needs a flu shot ***************** End Of Article ****************** Oh happy, happy, joy, joy posted Message 9218 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 07:50:13 Subject: Re: Will make his endorsement Tomorrow : And the winner will be?Jersey City needs a flu shot but will it protect us from the inane babbling of this leech? Probably not. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chiappone is supporting NADER posted Message 9219 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 07:51:38 Subject: Re: Not true- how stupid are you guys? : Chiappone is running as an independent Democrat and is not supporting Nader. Thats just the way they put them on the ballot. Chiappone is going to rock and shock! My friend maybe you don't like the fact that Mr. Chiappone enlisted himself to the left column,but the reality is simple he is running with NADER left independent the GREENparty againts the democratic machine Chiappone is on track moving to the left. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. or Mrs.,Ms. Buyguy posted Message 9220 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 07:56:53 Subject: Re: Chiappone running independent not with Nader a##hole : : CHAPONNE VISION IS GREAT WITH LIPSKI AS MAYOR AND NADER AS PRESIDENT THE HOMELESS THE TENANTS WILL HAVE A GREAT FUTURE WE HAVE TO : : TAX THOSE PEOPLE WITH PROPERTIES TO GIVE TO THE POOR LEFT MOVEMENT IS WHAT WE NEED,CHAPONNE IS LEADERFROM THE LEFT THAT WE NEED. Chiappone is with NADER same column independent left oriented againts the machine Mr. Chiappone follows the line of NADER FOR PRESIDENT same column same dream same future a AMERICA LIBERAL TO THE LEFT. ***************** End Of Article ****************** YES MS.BAYGUY CHIAPPONE IS ON THE NADER COLUMN IS CLEAR ON THE BALLOT posted Message 9221 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 08:03:17 Subject: Re: Chiappone running independent not with Nader a##hole : : CHAPONNE VISION IS GREAT WITH LIPSKI AS MAYOR AND NADER AS PRESIDENT THE HOMELESS THE TENANTS WILL HAVE A GREAT FUTURE WE HAVE TO : : TAX THOSE PEOPLE WITH PROPERTIES TO GIVE TO THE POOR LEFT MOVEMENT IS WHAT WE NEED,CHAPONNE IS LEADERFROM THE LEFT THAT WE NEED. CHIAPPONE IS ON NADER LINE IS NOTHING , HE JUST MOVED TO THE LEFT . ***************** End Of Article ****************** ELVIS SUPPORTS NADER AND CHIAPPINIO posted Message 9222 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 08:09:56 Subject: Re: Not true- how stupid are you guys? : Chiappone is running as an independent Democrat and is not supporting Nader. Thats just the way they put them on the ballot. Chiappone is going to rock and shock! THEY ARE LEFT AND HAPPY WITH ELVIS JC PRESLEY ***************** End Of Article ****************** class act posted Message 9223 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 08:42:27 Subject: Re: manzo guys got caught taking down signs : the manzo group got caught taking down signs on south street and hit a girl it is a shame how a firefighter and a jcia employee and the lowlife peace of $hit dirtbag billy from south street got caught putting a boxcutter to a girls neck what a shame wait till this go on the news and the papers tomorrow i hope they sue the $hit out ove you . manzo your father should of shot that load down sink you $cumbag you are a loser :::::another classy political commentary from the Gaughan/Dixon home computer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9224 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 08:44:55 Subject: Jersey Journal: 3 Senate hopefuls lay out their plans 3 Senate hopefuls lay out their plans 4 vying to fill out rest of Cunningham's term in 31st District Thursday, October 28, 2004 By Ronald Leir One is seeking office for the first time, another has served on the Jersey City Board of Education, a third has experience on the local and state level, and a fourth held a seat in the Legislature for more than two decades. All have one thing in common: They want to be the next state senator for the 31st District, which encompasses all of Bayonne and the southern parts of Jersey City. The election, to pick the person who will serve out the remainder of the term of Glenn D. Cunningham, who was also the Jersey City mayor, will be held Tuesday. . . . For the complete piece, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9225 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 08:47:12 Subject: Jersey Journal: Profiles of the four 31st District state Senate candidates Profiles of the four 31st District state Senate candidates Jersey Journal Thursday, October 28, 2004 By Ronald Leir and Michaelangelo Conte Voters in the 31st District, which includes parts of Jersey City and all of Bayonne, will choose Tuesday from among four candidates to fill the remaining three years of the late Glenn D. Cunningham's state Senate term. . . . For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bombshell posted Message 9226 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 08:48:29 Subject: McCann has destroyed healys good name It is easier to destroy a house then to build one.McCann, How does Healy get his good name back? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo's a pansy posted Message 9227 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 08:55:38 Subject: Re: Manzo's Gustapo, Hey Student! Hey, student, it seems that Manzo is paying you good money for being a lying sack of $hit. Manzo has done more damage to this mayoral campaign then any other candidate. Just look who he has surrounded himself with, including you, all scum bags. As for the former mayoral candidate Mr. Buonocore, no one has even seen him, he’s probably back up in Smoke Rise. Your candidate is just a pansy and should come out of the closet. : : I am a student at Hudson County Community College. Today Lou Manzo had the nerve to walk in escorted by two police officers. His goons run through the city assaulting people, ripping down signs, and beating women. Is he afraid someone will finally give him what he has coming for turning a blind eye to this behavior? How ironic that the only violent campaign in the city now has security detail. My oh my Manzo really is Looney Lou after all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who Cares? posted Message 9228 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 08:56:37 Subject: Re: McCann has destroyed healys good name He's a drunk and a wife beater anyway. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie the Air head posted Message 9229 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 08:57:07 Subject: Willie is so bad the UTN wont even hire Her Harvey Smith rules MLK. ***************** End Of Article ****************** This is for My Oh My posted Message 9230 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 08:58:42 Subject: Re: Manzo's Gustapo, : Hey, student, it seems that Manzo is paying you good money for being a lying sack of $hit. Manzo has done more damage to this mayoral campaign then any other candidate. Just look who he has surrounded himself with, including you, all scum bags. : As for the former mayoral candidate Mr. Buonocore, no one has even seen him, he’s probably back up in Smoke Rise. Your candidate is just a pansy and should come out of the closet. : : : : I am a student at Hudson County Community College. Today Lou Manzo had the nerve to walk in escorted by two police officers. His goons run through the city assaulting people, ripping down signs, and beating women. Is he afraid someone will finally give him what he has coming for turning a blind eye to this behavior? How ironic that the only violent campaign in the city now has security detail. My oh my Manzo really is Looney Lou after all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo loses for fourth time ! posted Message 9231 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 09:00:05 Subject: Re: Anyone Giving Odds? : I guess the next Mayor is going to be Louis Manzo. I don't work for him, or any other candidate. Wasn't even sure if I would vote for Mayor. But reading this board for the past few days, it seems that there is a real fear in Manzo's opposition. You can see it in their posts. So it seems he is the one to beat. Lipsky has people seeding this board a lot...but its really obvious who they are. And Mr. Healy has his defenders...who I respect for their persistence...but those pics....ugh. And although I read a lot about Mayor Smith...I have no idea what he stands for. So I guess my money is on Louis Manzo for Mayor. Anyone giving odds? : : I am a student at Hudson County Community College. Today Lou Manzo had the nerve to walk in escorted by two police officers. His goons run through the city assaulting people, ripping down signs, and beating women. Is he afraid someone will finally give him what he has coming for turning a blind eye to this behavior? How ironic that the only violent campaign in the city now has security detail. My oh my Manzo really is Looney Lou after all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Porky Pig Demise posted Message 9232 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 09:03:24 Subject: Puts his money on Manzo There are a lot more Xanadus out there for Porky Pig in jersey City.Take the Golf Course for a example. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Check your facts posted Message 9233 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 09:06:28 Subject: Manzo Has not made this an issue Lou Manzo has publicly said he never saw the Healy photo, distributed or direct any of his campaign workers to do the same. He has never made any public statement where he has brought this issue up nor does any of his campaign literature mention this. The fact of the matter is that it was the actions of Jerry Healy that made this episode a story and why the press is eager to continue to cover this story. I'am sure the papaers are ready to report, 'Nude Candidate Wins JC Mayors Election'. I sure hope that doesn't happen. E ALLEGATIONS OF MR HEALY EXPOSING HIMSELF ARE ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE .IF TRYING TO RUIN A MANS REPUTATION AND LIFE IS A WAY TO WIN AN ELECTION THAN SHAME ON YOU,I HAVE KNOWN THE HEALY FAMILY FOR AMNY YEARS AND THEY ARE A FINE CHRISTIAN FAMILY : WHOSE CHILDREN WENT TO ST NICKS SCHOOL. : HE HAS SERVED THE CITY AND COUNTY IN VARIOUS POSITIONS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ANYONE WHO KNOWS HIM WELL WILL STAND UP FOR HIS CHARACTER AS A FINE GENTLEMAN. THIS SLANDER OF HIM AND HIS FAMILY WILL BACKFIRE ON LOU MANZO AND HIS CRIMINAL CRONIES : I ALSO KNOW LOU MANZO AND THOUGHT HE WAS A MAN OF GOOD STANDING BUT HAVE SINCE CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE IS CONDONING ALL THIS GARBAGE. SO IF HE LOSES HE HAS HIMSELF TO BLAME FOR LISTENING TO HIS CRIMINAL FRIENDS. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DORIA THE ONLY CHOICE posted Message 9234 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 09:08:14 Subject: Re: Jersey Journal: Profiles of the four 31st District state Senate candidates : Profiles of the four 31st District state Senate candidates : Jersey Journal : Thursday, October 28, 2004 : By Ronald Leir and Michaelangelo Conte : Voters in the 31st District, which includes parts of Jersey City and all of Bayonne, will choose Tuesday from among four candidates to fill the remaining three years of the late Glenn D. Cunningham's state Senate term. : . . . : For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just Wants to Keep Making Money posted Message 9235 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 09:09:00 Subject: Porkey -'I'am not a political boss' You didn't read Menendez story in the papaers yesterday? He says he's not a political boss, but knows people who are. He wouldn't say however who was the boss of Hudson County if its not him. : There are a lot more Xanadus out there for Porky Pig in jersey City.Take the Golf Course for a example. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doria the best choice for Senate posted Message 9236 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 09:10:22 Subject: Re: Jersey Journal: 3 Senate hopefuls lay out their plans : 3 Senate hopefuls lay out their plans : 4 vying to fill out rest of Cunningham's term in 31st District : Thursday, October 28, 2004 : By Ronald Leir : One is seeking office for the first time, another has served on the Jersey City Board of Education, a third has experience on the local and state level, and a fourth held a seat in the Legislature for more than two decades. : All have one thing in common: They want to be the next state senator for the 31st District, which encompasses all of Bayonne and the southern parts of Jersey City. The election, to pick the person who will serve out the remainder of the term of Glenn D. Cunningham, who was also the Jersey City mayor, will be held Tuesday. : . . . : For the complete piece, please click on the Link. : ***************** End Of Article ****************** By Behaving Like An Adult - Put On Your Clothes posted Message 9237 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 09:13:34 Subject: How does Healy get his good name back? Blame Jery McCann, blame Lou Manzo, blame everybody but Jerry Healy for his bizzare behavior. I guess McCann and Manzo were with with Healy the night he took off his clothes. McCann was holding Healy down on the ground and Manzo was forcing Healy to drink 6, 8, or 68 bottles of beer. After he was drunk McCann took off his clothes and Manzo took his picture. That's the story, right? : It is easier to destroy a house then to build one.McCann, How does Healy get his good name back? ***************** End Of Article ****************** BOSS MENENDEZ WE REMENBER IN NOVEMBER posted Message 9238 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 09:18:04 Subject: Re: Porkey -'I'am not a political boss' : You didn't read Menendez story in the papaers yesterday? He says he's not a political boss, but knows people who are. He wouldn't say however who was the boss of Hudson County if its not him. : : There are a lot more Xanadus out there for Porky Pig in jersey City.Take the Golf Course for a example. BOSS MENENDEZ GOLF COURSE XANADU DONALD SCARINCI ANTI GLENN CUNNINGHAM ANTI HARVEY ANTIFLOOD ANTI EVERITHING THAT HE CAN NOT CONTROL JUST SEND A MESSAGE TO BOSS MENENDEZ NOV.2 . JERSEY CITY ISN'T HAPPY WITH YOU BOSS MENENDEZ WAIT FOR THE RESULTS............ ***************** End Of Article ****************** 68 Bottles of Beer posted Message 9239 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 09:23:14 Subject: 68 Bottles of Beer on the Wall Jerry fell down and lost his clothes and now we have 67 bottles of beer... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Boss Menendez the Hudson County BOSS posted Message 9240 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 09:27:16 Subject: African-americans the stronghold of the Democratic Party Boss Menendez did not help Glenn REST IN PEACE,now Boss Menendez do not support Willie Flood or Harvey Smith the chairman of the democratic party Jerscey City Mr. Goughan,no support for Kabili Tayari for senator Kerry and Jerry NAKED Healy Should we vote for Mennedez?// ***************** End Of Article ****************** Menendez kenny posted Message 9241 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 09:32:23 Subject: Already on phone making nice to Manzo & Mccann War to soon begin with Degise and Gaughan as they go with ODea for county executive. ***************** End Of Article ****************** persistence + confidence = SUCCESS! posted Message 9242 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 09:38:33 Subject: Healy Inaugural Ceremony Plans You must be nude to attend. ***************** End Of Article ****************** From the Miami Herald! Healy has made Jersey City the laughing stock of the Nation posted Message 9243 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 10:01:58 Subject: Healy did not deny that the photograph was authentic, or that he had been drinking alcohol Rodriguez said he tried to talk Healy into going inside, but he could not budge the candidate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Women - Nothing To worry about posted Message 9244 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 10:02:31 Subject: Re: Healy Inaugural Ceremony Plans Jerry might be nude but with that teenzie, weenzie, weenie of his, well, women have nothing to worry about. : You must be nude to attend. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom and Bill - The limo is waiting to take you to the airport posted Message 9245 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 10:03:46 Subject: Re: Already on phone making nice to Manzo & Mccann Tom and Bill - The limo is waiting to take you to the airport : War to soon begin with Degise and Gaughan as they go with ODea for county executive. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I thought Healy was lured outside ? posted Message 9246 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 10:04:41 Subject: Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs.Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Nude Mayor posted Message 9247 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 10:07:03 Subject: Just what jersey city needs A porky Pig congressman And a nude mayor .Only in jersey city. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Urban TIMES News posted Message 9248 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 10:17:45 Subject: Great Display As a guide for who NOT to VOTE this NOV. 2 with their lowlife cartoons and stories do we want to go back .......... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Make up your mind you drunken bastard posted Message 9249 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 10:19:56 Subject: Healy is a liar and a Flip Flop as well as a drunk Last week, Mr. Healy, a diabetic, said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. "I wish I recall how I got back out there," he said. "But I don't." -NY TIMES 10/11/04 Healy said he was locked out of the house. - Jersey Journal 10/23/0404 Healy did not deny that the photograph was authentic, or that he had been drinking alcohol. But he insisted he had been lured outside by someone banging his trash can, and that he was not naked when he walked out. MIAMI HERALD 10/27/04 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy- Drunk and Incoherent - A candidate for Mayor? posted Message 9250 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 10:23:15 Subject: Re: Healy did not deny that the photograph was authentic, or that he had been drinking alcohol Who in their right mind would vote for Healy? It is only the blood-s ucking, hangers-on who work for the HCDO want Healy to win. Average citizens would never vote for this clown. : Rodriguez said he tried to talk Healy into going inside, but he could not budge the candidate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy is a liar and has an addiction problem...we don't need him as mayor. posted Message 9251 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 10:30:02 Subject: Last week, Mr. Healy, a diabetic, said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. "I wish I recall how I got back out there," he said. "But I don't." -NY TIMES 10/11/04 Last week, Mr. Healy, a diabetic, said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. "I wish I recall how I got back out there," he said. "But I don't." -NY TIMES 10/11/04 Healy said he was locked out of the house. - Jersey Journal 10/23/0404 Healy did not deny that the photograph was authentic, or that he had been drinking alcohol. But he insisted he had been lured outside by someone banging his trash can, and that he was not naked when he walked out. MIAMI HERALD 10/27/04 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Three we dont Need posted Message 9252 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 10:39:39 Subject: Menendez, Healy ,Kerry Tuesday send a message that jersey city is not brain dead. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wouldn't It Be Wonderful! posted Message 9253 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 10:43:47 Subject: Re: Menendez, Healy ,Kerry To get rid of all three slim-balls. One can only vote and hope. : Tuesday send a message that jersey city is not brain dead. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JOHN posted Message 9254 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 11:23:36 Subject: Re: Woman attacked by McManzo goons : The young woman was knocked to the ground and a razor knife put to her throat. How doses one throw someone to the ground then put a knife to her throat? Maybe if you said he put a knife to her throat then throw her to the ground it could be more believable. I call bull$hit. Sounds like more healy hoodlums trying to start a rumor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo Wins by 5 points posted Message 9255 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 11:27:01 Subject: Re: Anyone Giving Odds? Manzo 34% Smith 29% Healy 14% Flood 11% Lipski 7% Others 5% : I guess the next Mayor is going to be Louis Manzo. I don't work for him, or any other candidate. Wasn't even sure if I would vote for Mayor. But reading this board for the past few days, it seems that there is a real fear in Manzo's opposition. You can see it in their posts. So it seems he is the one to beat. Lipsky has people seeding this board a lot...but its really obvious who they are. And Mr. Healy has his defenders...who I respect for their persistence...but those pics....ugh. And although I read a lot about Mayor Smith...I have no idea what he stands for. So I guess my money is on Louis Manzo for Mayor. Anyone giving odds? : : I am a student at Hudson County Community College. Today Lou Manzo had the nerve to walk in escorted by two police officers. His goons run through the city assaulting people, ripping down signs, and beating women. Is he afraid someone will finally give him what he has coming for turning a blind eye to this behavior? How ironic that the only violent campaign in the city now has security detail. My oh my Manzo really is Looney Lou after all. ***************** End Of Article ****************** why not? posted Message 9256 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 11:50:06 Subject: Re: Woman attacked by McManzo goons : : The young woman was knocked to the ground and a razor knife put to her throat. : How doses one throw someone to the ground then put a knife to her throat? : Maybe if you said he put a knife to her throat then throw her to the ground it could be more believable. I call bull$hit. Sounds like more healy hoodlums trying to start a rumor. :::Please tell me you're not eligible to vote in this country! How doses this happen to us.? ***************** End Of Article ****************** JERRY HEALY TOO DRUNK TO LEAD posted Message 9257 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 11:51:45 Subject: wonder how Healy would react if God forbid another 9-11 were to happen?? Jesus Christ does it worry anyone else? wonder how Healy would react if God forbid another 9-11 were to happen?? Jesus Christ does it worry anyone else? Healy not only had shown himself naked he's proven he has lost all good sense of Judgement! He admits to a reporter that he drinks too much and has no idea how he ened up naked on his porch, then 2 weeks later he denies the pictures are even him. DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A PATTERN HERE?? Its NOT HOW MUCH YOU DRINK, ITS WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU WHEN YOU DO DRINK. He drinks too much and he lies. Healy has proven he he lacks good judgment. First by DRINKING as a DIABETIC, second PRANCING NAKED on HIS PORCH, Third, Admitting to everyone as well as the NY Times the pictures were of him, and in less then 2 weeks BLATANTLY LIES and tells CBS NEWS THE PICTURES aren't him. DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS GUY IN CHARGE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS AND OUR SECURITY ***************** End Of Article ****************** He's Going to Manage Jersey City? No way!! posted Message 9258 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 12:00:36 Subject: Healy Has Trouble Managing Himself : wonder how Healy would react if God forbid another 9-11 were to happen?? Jesus Christ does it worry anyone else? : Healy not only had shown himself naked he's proven he has lost all good sense of Judgement! : He admits to a reporter that he drinks too much and has no idea how he ened up naked on his porch, then 2 weeks later he denies the pictures are even him. : DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A PATTERN HERE?? Its NOT HOW MUCH YOU DRINK, ITS WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU WHEN YOU DO DRINK. : He drinks too much and he lies. Healy has proven he he lacks good judgment. First by DRINKING as a DIABETIC, second PRANCING NAKED on HIS PORCH, Third, Admitting to everyone as well as the NY Times the pictures were of him, and in less then 2 weeks BLATANTLY LIES and tells CBS NEWS THE PICTURES aren't him. : DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS GUY IN CHARGE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS AND OUR SECURITY ***************** End Of Article ****************** Civil rights for all posted Message 9259 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 12:55:00 Subject: Manzo is a H O M O In reply to Manzo's Gustapo Posted by My oh my on October 28, 2004 at 01:09:02: Yes sir I am a young man my parents can be proud of. I am performing my civic duty and pointing out that Manzo's people fight dirty. Manzo is a sleaze bag he is the type of man your mother always feared you would become and the type of man your Father stayed away from in the High School gym showers. Manzo is done and you all need to accept it. Ku Klux McCann and Mary Looney Lou Manzo are going down! ::You are a credit to your parents. I am sure they are paying good money to raise a lying sack of $hit. No one has been assaulted and no women have been beaten. Signs being ripped down is a right of passage in Jersey City. Escorted by 2 police officers? Maybe they were on an overtime detail, which he would pay for. Maybe Mr. Manzo needed them because Mr. Buonocore, an alleged law enforcement officer, has made threats against him. Or maybe this is just another lie junior. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Your Parents Raised a Low life posted Message 9260 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 13:09:51 Subject: Re: Manzo is a H O M O Are your parents proud of you for referring to someone as a HOMO? Did you fall asleep when your parents taught you to repsect other people and not to be judgemental? is your last name Healy, Degise or Gaughan? : In reply to Manzo's Gustapo Posted by My oh my on October 28, 2004 at 01:09:02: : Yes sir I am a young man my parents can be proud of. I am performing my civic duty and pointing out that Manzo's people fight dirty. Manzo is a sleaze bag he is the type of man your mother always feared you would become and the type of man your Father stayed away from in the High School gym showers. Manzo is done and you all need to accept it. Ku Klux McCann and Mary Looney Lou Manzo are going down! : ::You are a credit to your parents. I am sure they are paying good money to raise a lying sack of $hit. No one has been assaulted and no women have been beaten. Signs being ripped down is a right of passage in Jersey City. Escorted by 2 police officers? Maybe they were on an overtime detail, which he would pay for. Maybe Mr. Manzo needed them because Mr. Buonocore, an alleged law enforcement officer, has made threats against him. Or maybe this is just another lie junior. ***************** End Of Article ****************** bonnie ramirez posted Message 9261 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 13:11:47 Subject: RODRIQUEZ IS A DRUG DEALER THE ACCUSER OF JERRY HEALY IS A DRUG DEALER IN PERSHING FIELD PARK WHY ELSE WAS HE WALKING HIS GIRLFRIEND AT 3AM AND HAS AN EXTENSIVE RECORD AS A JUVENILE FOR DRUG SELLING. ALL THE COPS KNOW HIM. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who Will the jersey journal go with? posted Message 9262 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 13:14:40 Subject: Endorsement Time Could they possibly go for Heealy? doubtful/shameful What about Smith? brain dead Flood? feel the love baby Manzo? Leading in the polls Lipski? Loves to give millions to developers ***************** End Of Article ****************** And.. healy is an exhibitionist... check out hahahealy.com posted Message 9263 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 13:15:34 Subject: Re: RODRIQUEZ IS A DRUG DEALER : THE ACCUSER OF JERRY HEALY IS A DRUG DEALER IN PERSHING FIELD PARK : WHY ELSE WAS HE WALKING HIS GIRLFRIEND AT 3AM : AND HAS AN EXTENSIVE RECORD AS A JUVENILE FOR DRUG SELLING. : ALL THE COPS KNOW HIM. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MANNY DIAZ posted Message 9264 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 13:16:40 Subject: RON MANZO SAYS GERRY MCCANN IS MAKING HIS BROTHER LOSE AHHH WHAT A SHAME RONNIE MANZO IS TELLING PEOPLE THAT MCCANN IS HIS BROTHERS DOWNFALL AND IF HE LOSES BLAME MCCANN. WEELL RONNIE HE IS A LOSER ALL POLES HAVE HEALY IN THE LEAD .BYE LOONEY LOUIE!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** MR T posted Message 9265 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 13:18:59 Subject: ALL POLLS AND SURVEYS INDICATE HEALY WINS!!! ALL POLLS ARE TELLING THAT JERRY HEALY WILL WIN DESPITE THE DIRTY CAMPAIGN MANZO IS RUNNING SORRY LOONEY LOUIE ITS OVER HEALY WINS BIG. ***************** End Of Article ****************** the truth posted Message 9266 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 13:32:53 Subject: Manzo staff no morale manzo's staff is burned out and bickering, they have put signs on all the vacant homes, telephone polls, and put in big ads, but they still can't get up in the polls. Tuesday night at Casino in the Park, is going to look like a convention for crybabies! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 9267 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 13:46:48 Subject: Re: wonder how Healy would react if God forbid another 9-11 were to happen?? Jesus Christ does it worry anyone else? : wonder how Healy would react if God forbid another 9-11 were to happen?? Jesus Christ does it worry anyone else? : Healy not only had shown himself naked he's proven he has lost all good sense of Judgement! : He admits to a reporter that he drinks too much and has no idea how he ened up naked on his porch, then 2 weeks later he denies the pictures are even him. : DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A PATTERN HERE?? Its NOT HOW MUCH YOU DRINK, ITS WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU WHEN YOU DO DRINK. : He drinks too much and he lies. Healy has proven he he lacks good judgment. First by DRINKING as a DIABETIC, second PRANCING NAKED on HIS PORCH, Third, Admitting to everyone as well as the NY Times the pictures were of him, and in less then 2 weeks BLATANTLY LIES and tells CBS NEWS THE PICTURES aren't him. : DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS GUY IN CHARGE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS AND OUR SECURITY YOU MUST WORK FOR MANZO YOU LOWLIFE M O T H E R F U C K E R YOU PEICE OF S H I T ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy posted Message 9268 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 13:50:25 Subject: . Healy people- You sound like your getting desperate! Why all the attacks if you think your going to win? ***************** End Of Article ****************** He admits to a reporter that he drinks too much and has no idea how he ened up naked on his porch, then 2 weeks later he denies the pictures are even him. WWW.HAHAHEALY.COM posted Message 9269 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:15:35 Subject: Healy said he was locked out of the house. - Jersey Journal10/23/0404 Healy did not deny that the photograph was authentic, or that he had been drinking alcohol. But he insisted he had been lured outside by someone banging his trash can, and that he was not naked when he walked out. MIAMI HERALD Last week, Mr. Healy, a diabetic, said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. "I wish I recall how I got back out there," he said. "But I don't." -NY TIMES 10/11/04 : Healy said he was locked out of the house. - Jersey Journal : 10/23/0404 Healy did not deny that the photograph was authentic, or that he had been drinking alcohol. But he insisted he had been lured outside by someone banging his trash can, and that he was not naked when he walked out. MIAMI HERALD 10/27/04 ***************** End Of Article ****************** IT IS AN ILLNESS HE WAS BORN WITH posted Message 9270 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:16:58 Subject: BILL GAUGHAN AND JERRY HEALY SAY RON MANZO IS GAY : RONNIE MANZO IS TELLING PEOPLE THAT MCCANN IS HIS BROTHERS DOWNFALL AND IF HE LOSES BLAME MCCANN. : WEELL RONNIE HE IS A LOSER ALL POLES HAVE HEALY IN THE LEAD .BYE LOONEY LOUIE!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** THE INCREDIBLE TRUTH HEALY WILL WIN ! posted Message 9271 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:21:40 Subject: JERRY HEALY SAYS RON MANZO IS SCUM : : RONNIE MANZO IS TELLING PEOPLE THAT MCCANN IS HIS BROTHERS DOWNFALL AND IF HE LOSES BLAME MCCANN. : : WEELL RONNIE HE IS A LOSER ALL POLES HAVE HEALY IN THE LEAD .BYE LOONEY LOUIE!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JUSTIN posted Message 9272 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:26:05 Subject: an honest democrat Ok people I have a question. The Hudson County democratic Organization has given us some of these names in the past. Robert Janiszewski , Joseph Barry , William Braker ,Nidia Davila-Colon ,Buddy Demellier, Jack Burn, Gene Drayton, Tom DeGise, Bobby Knapp, L. Harvey Smith, Anthony Russo, Dr. Oscar Sandoval, and a lot that I cant think of. Now you bring us Jerry healy an “honest democrat” how many time are you going to tell us he an honest man? It’s getting me thinking! How can we trust you? Why should we trust you? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Honest Democrat? Isn't that an oxymoron? posted Message 9273 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:29:29 Subject: Re: an honest democrat : Ok people I have a question. The Hudson County democratic Organization has given us some of these names in the past. Robert Janiszewski , Joseph Barry , William Braker ,Nidia Davila-Colon ,Buddy Demellier, Jack Burn, Gene Drayton, Tom DeGise, Bobby Knapp, L. Harvey Smith, Anthony Russo, Dr. Oscar Sandoval, and a lot that I cant think of. Now you bring us Jerry healy an “honest democrat” how many time are you going to tell us he an honest man? It’s getting me thinking! : How can we trust you? Why should we trust you? ***************** End Of Article ****************** There is plenty of morale and posted Message 9274 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:30:34 Subject: Re: Manzo staff no morale :::crybaby is NOT invited! : manzo's staff is burned out and bickering, they have put signs on all the vacant homes, telephone polls, and put in big ads, but they still can't get up in the polls. Tuesday night at Casino in the Park, is going to look like a convention for crybabies! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get a life DICKson posted Message 9275 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:31:22 Subject: Re: ALL POLLS AND SURVEYS INDICATE HEALY WINS!!! : ALL POLLS ARE TELLING THAT JERRY HEALY WILL WIN DESPITE THE DIRTY CAMPAIGN MANZO IS RUNNING SORRY LOONEY LOUIE ITS OVER HEALY WINS BIG. ***************** End Of Article ****************** And Gaughan plays with dead bodies and Healy has a weenie. So your point is? posted Message 9276 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:34:14 Subject: Re: BILL GAUGHAN AND JERRY HEALY SAY RON MANZO IS GAY : : RONNIE MANZO IS TELLING PEOPLE THAT MCCANN IS HIS BROTHERS DOWNFALL AND IF HE LOSES BLAME MCCANN. : : WEELL RONNIE HE IS A LOSER ALL POLES HAVE HEALY IN THE LEAD .BYE LOONEY LOUIE!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** the drunkest bunch of the HCDO posted Message 9277 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:36:53 Subject: Re:Healy staff no morale they have run out of liquor and money : :::crybaby is NOT invited! : : manzo's staff is burned out and bickering, they have put signs on all the vacant homes, telephone polls, and put in big ads, but they still can't get up in the polls. Tuesday night at Casino in the Park, is going to look like a convention for crybabies! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Get NERVOUS! posted Message 9278 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:38:10 Subject: http://www.trismccall.net/ Get nervous, all you dumb willies! This site is not for the meek, or weak! http://www.trismccall.net/ ***************** End Of Article ****************** mike posted Message 9279 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:44:55 Subject: Re: an honest democrat Oxymoron that’s just what I was thinking. I think im going to go with someone that’s not part of the HCDO im voting for flood or manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now Drinking Hair Tonic posted Message 9280 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:45:25 Subject: Re:Healy staff Out of Money These sorry souls are drinking hair tonic. They can't pay their bar tab at the Astor and credit was cut off. Healy promises to cash in his retirement savings to keep the booze flowing. : : :::crybaby is NOT invited! : : : manzo's staff is burned out and bickering, they have put signs on all the vacant homes, telephone polls, and put in big ads, but they still can't get up in the polls. Tuesday night at Casino in the Park, is going to look like a convention for crybabies! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy falling way behind posted Message 9281 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:46:37 Subject: Manzo tracking poll shows him with an 8 point lead over Healy Poll is still being conducted. The calls were started 10/23. The questions asked were : We are conducting a political poll.Do you intend to vote in the JC Mayoral election ? Who will you vote for ? 400 responses Manzo 136 Healy 104 Smith 68 Flood 61 Lipski 19 12 responses were giving to the other candidates The goal of the tracking poll is 800 responses. : : ALL POLLS ARE TELLING THAT JERRY HEALY WILL WIN DESPITE THE DIRTY CAMPAIGN MANZO IS RUNNING SORRY LOONEY LOUIE ITS OVER HEALY WINS BIG. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Negative campaigning hurts Healy posted Message 9282 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:50:12 Subject: Hea.ly trails Manzo by 8 points in latest poll Poll is still being conducted. The calls were started 10/23. The questions asked were : We are conducting a political poll.Do you intend to vote in the JC Mayoral election ? Who will you vote for ? 400 responses Manzo 136 Healy 104 Smith 68 Flood 61 Lipski 19 12 responses were giving to the other candidates ***************** End Of Article ****************** MANZO 'S FALL posted Message 9283 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:52:02 Subject: HEALY POLL SAY RON AND LOONEY LOU MANZO ARE GAY SCUM : Poll is still being conducted. The calls were started 10/23. The questions asked were : We are conducting a political poll.Do you intend to vote in the JC Mayoral election ? Who will you vote for ? 400 responses Manzo 136 Healy 104 Smith 68 Flood 61 Lipski 19 : 12 responses were giving to the other candidates ***************** End Of Article ****************** You must be on the HCDO payroll posted Message 9284 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 14:53:42 Subject: You Endorese Healy? Seems you overlooked Healy's naked, drunken episodes and the wife beating as well. : Get nervous, all you dumb willies! This site is not for the meek, or weak! http://www.trismccall.net/ ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward C worker posted Message 9285 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 15:17:16 Subject: Manzo leads Healy by 8 points but different # I was told Manzo 34% Healy 26 % Smith 17 % Flood 15% Lipski 5 % other 3 % Poll is supposed to have an 800 sample. : Poll is still being conducted. The calls were started 10/23. The questions asked were : We are conducting a political poll.Do you intend to vote in the JC Mayoral election ? Who will you vote for ? 400 responses Manzo 136 Healy 104 Smith 68 Flood 61 Lipski 19 : 12 responses were giving to the other candidates ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Can't! posted Message 9286 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 15:39:20 Subject: How can we trust you? Why should we trust you? If Jerry Healy was so honest why would he want to be associated with all the crooks and criminals you mentioned below? Whats the saying, 'Birds of feather flock together'. : Ok people I have a question. The Hudson County democratic Organization has given us some of these names in the past. Robert Janiszewski , Joseph Barry , William Braker ,Nidia Davila-Colon ,Buddy Demellier, Jack Burn, Gene Drayton, Tom DeGise, Bobby Knapp, L. Harvey Smith, Anthony Russo, Dr. Oscar Sandoval, and a lot that I cant think of. Now you bring us Jerry healy an “honest democrat” how many time are you going to tell us he an honest man? It’s getting me thinking! : How can we trust you? Why should we trust you? ***************** End Of Article ****************** QDJKB posted Message 9287 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 16:02:58 Subject: Re: Manzo's Gustapo : :THE GIRL WAS ASSAULTED ! THIS IS NOT A LIE IT HAPPENED TUESDAY AT AROUND :11:30 PM ON SOUTH STREET. IT IS A SHAME HOW LOW THESE MANZO PEOPLE WILL GO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Party Time posted Message 9288 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 16:13:22 Subject: Menendez &kenny tell Manzo they will be at victory Party Will you all be there tuesday night? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doubtful posted Message 9289 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 16:16:15 Subject: Re: Menendez &kenny tell Manzo they will be at victory Party Maybe I'll bring some cream pies just in case. : Will you all be there tuesday night? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9290 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 16:36:57 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9291 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 16:47:14 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** loyal soldier posted Message 9292 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 17:02:29 Subject: Re: BILL GAUGHAN AND JERRY HEALY SAY RON MANZO IS GAY : : RONNIE MANZO IS TELLING PEOPLE THAT MCCANN IS HIS BROTHERS DOWNFALL AND IF HE LOSES BLAME MCCANN. : : WEELL RONNIE HE IS A LOSER ALL POLES HAVE HEALY IN THE LEAD .BYE LOONEY LOUIE!! ::::Gaughan announces promotion of son in law Jimmy "what about me?" Dixon to chief sign puller ; for new Iraqi Prime Minister. Large crowd of police, sheriffs and process servers to see him off tonight. Gifts of cash and comic books solicited. Will continue on county payroll, of course. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm Jesus Christ! And I'm Worried! posted Message 9293 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 17:09:49 Subject: Re: wonder how Healy would react if God forbid another 9-11 were to happen?? Jesus Christ does it worry anyone else? : : wonder how Healy would react if God forbid another 9-11 were to happen?? Jesus Christ does it worry anyone else? : : Healy not only had shown himself naked he's proven he has lost all good sense of Judgement! : : He admits to a reporter that he drinks too much and has no idea how he ened up naked on his porch, then 2 weeks later he denies the pictures are even him. : : DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A PATTERN HERE?? Its NOT HOW MUCH YOU DRINK, ITS WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU WHEN YOU DO DRINK. : : He drinks too much and he lies. Healy has proven he he lacks good judgment. First by DRINKING as a DIABETIC, second PRANCING NAKED on HIS PORCH, Third, Admitting to everyone as well as the NY Times the pictures were of him, and in less then 2 weeks BLATANTLY LIES and tells CBS NEWS THE PICTURES aren't him. : : DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS GUY IN CHARGE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS AND OUR SECURITY YOU MUST WORK FOR MANZO YOU LOWLIFE M O T H E R F U C K E R YOU PEICE OF S H I T ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm God... And I Forbid it! posted Message 9294 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 17:10:54 Subject: Re: wonder how Healy would react if God forbid another 9-11 were to happen?? Jesus Christ does it worry anyone else? : : : wonder how Healy would react if God forbid another 9-11 were to happen?? Jesus Christ does it worry anyone else? : : : Healy not only had shown himself naked he's proven he has lost all good sense of Judgement! : : : He admits to a reporter that he drinks too much and has no idea how he ened up naked on his porch, then 2 weeks later he denies the pictures are even him. : : : DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A PATTERN HERE?? Its NOT HOW MUCH YOU DRINK, ITS WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU WHEN YOU DO DRINK. : : : He drinks too much and he lies. Healy has proven he he lacks good judgment. First by DRINKING as a DIABETIC, second PRANCING NAKED on HIS PORCH, Third, Admitting to everyone as well as the NY Times the pictures were of him, and in less then 2 weeks BLATANTLY LIES and tells CBS NEWS THE PICTURES aren't him. : : : DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS GUY IN CHARGE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS AND OUR SECURITY YOU MUST WORK FOR MANZO YOU LOWLIFE M O T H E R F U C K E R YOU PEICE OF S H I T ***************** End Of Article ****************** Read this! posted Message 9295 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 17:15:13 Subject: Everyone Here is missing the POINT! What will we all do on November 3rd? Should we get a yearbook and have everyone sign it? I'm gonna miss you guys! Where has Father Guido Sarducci been? I miss him? Is The Insider an innie or an outie? Are we really all gay? Or is Everybody gay? Thank God the next election is in May! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9296 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 17:58:31 Subject: Some will say HaHa. Others will go BooHoo. HaHaHealy.com is kaput. Does anybody know exactly why it was pulled? ***************** End Of Article ****************** It's about time posted Message 9297 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 18:15:52 Subject: Re: Some will say HaHa. Others will go BooHoo. Did anyone ever verify who was behind it? : HaHaHealy.com is kaput. : Does anybody know exactly why it was pulled? ***************** End Of Article ****************** F U C K U P A Y M E posted Message 9298 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 18:38:30 Subject: Re: Welcome to the Message Board. F U C K U Anthony you are a F U C K I N G Q U E E R! : Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DIE C U N T posted Message 9299 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 18:40:08 Subject: Re: Manzo is a H O M O Your mother fell asleep and forgot to f u c king hae your father stick it in her a s s hole instead of her c u n t : Are your parents proud of you for referring to someone as a HOMO? : Did you fall asleep when your parents taught you to repsect other people and not to be judgemental? : is your last name Healy, Degise or Gaughan? : : : In reply to Manzo's Gustapo Posted by My oh my on October 28, 2004 at 01:09:02: : : Yes sir I am a young man my parents can be proud of. I am performing my civic duty and pointing out that Manzo's people fight dirty. Manzo is a sleaze bag he is the type of man your mother always feared you would become and the type of man your Father stayed away from in the High School gym showers. Manzo is done and you all need to accept it. Ku Klux McCann and Mary Looney Lou Manzo are going down! : : ::You are a credit to your parents. I am sure they are paying good money to raise a lying sack of $hit. No one has been assaulted and no women have been beaten. Signs being ripped down is a right of passage in Jersey City. Escorted by 2 police officers? Maybe they were on an overtime detail, which he would pay for. Maybe Mr. Manzo needed them because Mr. Buonocore, an alleged law enforcement officer, has made threats against him. Or maybe this is just another lie junior. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 9300 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 18:57:48 Subject: Have you heard of karma? I'm sure you'll get whatever it is that you deserve. ***************** End Of Article ****************** R. menendez, Washington DC posted Message 9301 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 19:10:16 Subject: it was registered by a : Did anyone ever verify who was behind it? : : HaHaHealy.com is kaput. : : Does anybody know exactly why it was pulled? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Out of Office posted Message 9302 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 19:13:00 Subject: Let's Start a Movement for Throwing Menendez Whoever becomes the mayor will not change because the root problem is one R. Menendez. It would great if we could channel our energies to see him toppled from power. : What will we all do on November 3rd? Should we get a yearbook and have everyone sign it? I'm gonna miss you guys! Where has Father Guido Sarducci been? I miss him? Is The Insider an innie or an outie? Are we really all gay? Or is Everybody gay? Thank God the next election is in May! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm voting for LHarvey Smith posted Message 9303 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 19:57:23 Subject: Re: an honest democrat : Oxymoron that’s just what I was thinking. I think im going to go with someone that’s not part of the HCDO im voting for flood or manzo. L Harvey Smith is the only normal person running for Mayor ***************** End Of Article ****************** My friend I'm independent posted Message 9304 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 20:08:11 Subject: Re: Everyone Here is missing the POINT! : What will we all do on November 3rd? Should we get a yearbook and have everyone sign it? I'm gonna miss you guys! Where has Father Guido Sarducci been? I miss him? Is The Insider an innie or an outie? Are we really all gay? Or is Everybody gay? Thank God the next election is in May! I'm voting for Bush for President not Menendez Cassidy and DeLeo I'm voting for them for mayor I'm undesided maybe Harvey because why change now to have another election in May or Manzo the problem with Manzo I just moved to JC about 10 yrs ago . That former politician theguy McCann is really a problem I voted againts Glenn who I like because he hired a criminal and he was the former US Marshall. I belive that he should be out of politics or maybe in jail . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lets all vote against the boss Menendes posted Message 9305 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 20:10:28 Subject: Re: Let's Start a Movement for Throwing Menendez : Whoever becomes the mayor will not change because the root problem is one R. Menendez. It would great if we could channel our energies to see him toppled from power. : : : What will we all do on November 3rd? Should we get a yearbook and have everyone sign it? I'm gonna miss you guys! Where has Father Guido Sarducci been? I miss him? Is The Insider an innie or an outie? Are we really all gay? Or is Everybody gay? Thank God the next election is in May! ***************** End Of Article ****************** TRENTON, N.J. -- The race to fill the state Senate seat of the late Glenn Cunningham has turned into a rematch of last year's fierce battle for an Assembly seat that covers part of Hudson County. posted Message 9306 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 20:15:39 Subject: Four candidates look to fill Cunningham's seat Four candidates look to fill Cunningham's seat By TOM BELL Associated Press Writer October 28, 2004, 4:54 PM EDT TRENTON, N.J. -- The race to fill the state Senate seat of the late Glenn Cunningham has turned into a rematch of last year's fierce battle for an Assembly seat that covers part of Hudson County. Sen. Joseph Doria, D-Hudson, was selected by his party to fill Cunningham's 31st District seat until the special election on Nov. 2. Doria is a former assemblyman who served for 24 years. His main opponent is Democratic Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone, who beat Doria in a hard-fought primary for the Assembly seat in June 2003. Despite holding office as a Democrat, Chiappone is running as an independent since Doria has the backing of party leaders. When he beat Doria in 2003, Chiappone ran on a ticket with Cunningham, who died of a heart attack in May. Chiappone said he decided to run when Doria was tapped by the party. The selection was not well received by Cunningham supporters, and Chiappone has questioned Doria's respect for Cunningham, who also was mayor of Jersey City. Doria, who is also the mayor of Bayonne, said he was saddened by Cunningham's death. "It's an unfortunate tragedy," Doria said. Chiappone charged that the selection of Doria by the party showed disregard for the wishes of those in Hudson County who voted in the 2003 Assembly primary. "The voters made their choice in voting Doria out of office," Chiappone said. "He was appointed, not elected." The assemblyman said Doria also showed disregard for those voters when he challenged the results of the 2003 primary. "He accused them of voter fraud and now he wants to represent them?" Chiappone said. "I don't think that's proper." Doria countered that he had a long record of achievement in the Assembly. "I have 24 years of service in the Assembly," Doria said. "Over 250 bills I sponsored became law. I'm running on my record." Chiappone said his candidacy was also a jab at the Hudson County Democratic Party, which backed Doria and intended to oppose Chiappone in his Assembly re-election bid next year. "I'm using this opportunity to take the fight to them instead," Chiappone said. There is no Republican candidate in the special election so the outcome will not affect the 22-18 advantage held in the Senate by Democrats. Republican officials conceded the race in the heavily Democratic district. Two other independent candidates are running in the special election. One candidate is John H. Watson, a Jersey City funeral home director. The other is Kabili Tayari, a business administrator for Jersey City and president of the city's NAACP branch. Watson said he was a Democrat despite his independent status in the special election. He said he was in the race due to concerns about taxes, education and health issues. He doesn't consider Doria's selection to fill Cunningham's seat an issue because voters will get to decide the successor in the special election. "It's important to have someone on that spot who represents everyone," Watson said. "We have a diverse ethnic community here." Repeated calls over more than a week seeking comment from Tayari were not returned. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stop MENENDEZ NOW! posted Message 9307 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 20:32:12 Subject: Healy was Menendez boy to stop Ward F Menendez told Healy to run for mayor and the same day had the same conversation with Harvey . Now he maybe supports Manzo because He's afraid of Mayor STAk.Who's Menendez to play with the future of JC. stop the Fattie boy from Union City sorry Hoboken ....maybe xanadu fees are paying for his apartment with his princess Kay 3 million dollar girlfriend thats the rumors please confirm ..........just rumors .......... ***************** End Of Article ****************** DORIA IS THE ONLY ONE THAT KNOWS HOW TO READ posted Message 9308 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 20:36:20 Subject: Re: Four candidates look to fill Cunningham's seat : Four candidates look to fill Cunningham's seat : : By TOM BELL : Associated Press Writer : October 28, 2004, 4:54 PM EDT : TRENTON, N.J. -- The race to fill the state Senate seat of the late Glenn Cunningham has turned into a rematch of last year's fierce battle for an Assembly seat that covers part of Hudson County. : Sen. Joseph Doria, D-Hudson, was selected by his party to fill Cunningham's 31st District seat until the special election on Nov. 2. Doria is a former assemblyman who served for 24 years. : : His main opponent is Democratic Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone, who beat Doria in a hard-fought primary for the Assembly seat in June 2003. : Despite holding office as a Democrat, Chiappone is running as an independent since Doria has the backing of party leaders. When he beat Doria in 2003, Chiappone ran on a ticket with Cunningham, who died of a heart attack in May. : Chiappone said he decided to run when Doria was tapped by the party. The selection was not well received by Cunningham supporters, and Chiappone has questioned Doria's respect for Cunningham, who also was mayor of Jersey City. : Doria, who is also the mayor of Bayonne, said he was saddened by Cunningham's death. : "It's an unfortunate tragedy," Doria said. : Chiappone charged that the selection of Doria by the party showed disregard for the wishes of those in Hudson County who voted in the 2003 Assembly primary. : "The voters made their choice in voting Doria out of office," Chiappone said. "He was appointed, not elected." : The assemblyman said Doria also showed disregard for those voters when he challenged the results of the 2003 primary. : "He accused them of voter fraud and now he wants to represent them?" Chiappone said. "I don't think that's proper." : Doria countered that he had a long record of achievement in the Assembly. : "I have 24 years of service in the Assembly," Doria said. "Over 250 bills I sponsored became law. I'm running on my record." : Chiappone said his candidacy was also a jab at the Hudson County Democratic Party, which backed Doria and intended to oppose Chiappone in his Assembly re-election bid next year. : "I'm using this opportunity to take the fight to them instead," Chiappone said. : There is no Republican candidate in the special election so the outcome will not affect the 22-18 advantage held in the Senate by Democrats. Republican officials conceded the race in the heavily Democratic district. : Two other independent candidates are running in the special election. One candidate is John H. Watson, a Jersey City funeral home director. The other is Kabili Tayari, a business administrator for Jersey City and president of the city's NAACP branch. : Watson said he was a Democrat despite his independent status in the special election. He said he was in the race due to concerns about taxes, education and health issues. He doesn't consider Doria's selection to fill Cunningham's seat an issue because voters will get to decide the successor in the special election. : "It's important to have someone on that spot who represents everyone," Watson said. "We have a diverse ethnic community here." : Repeated calls over more than a week seeking comment from Tayari were not returned. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No rematch Chiappone is with NADER for President posted Message 9309 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 20:39:28 Subject: Re: Four candidates look to fill Cunningham's seat : Four candidates look to fill Cunningham's seat : : By TOM BELL : Associated Press Writer : October 28, 2004, 4:54 PM EDT : TRENTON, N.J. -- The race to fill the state Senate seat of the late Glenn Cunningham has turned into a rematch of last year's fierce battle for an Assembly seat that covers part of Hudson County. : Sen. Joseph Doria, D-Hudson, was selected by his party to fill Cunningham's 31st District seat until the special election on Nov. 2. Doria is a former assemblyman who served for 24 years. : : His main opponent is Democratic Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone, who beat Doria in a hard-fought primary for the Assembly seat in June 2003. : Despite holding office as a Democrat, Chiappone is running as an independent since Doria has the backing of party leaders. When he beat Doria in 2003, Chiappone ran on a ticket with Cunningham, who died of a heart attack in May. : Chiappone said he decided to run when Doria was tapped by the party. The selection was not well received by Cunningham supporters, and Chiappone has questioned Doria's respect for Cunningham, who also was mayor of Jersey City. : Doria, who is also the mayor of Bayonne, said he was saddened by Cunningham's death. : "It's an unfortunate tragedy," Doria said. : Chiappone charged that the selection of Doria by the party showed disregard for the wishes of those in Hudson County who voted in the 2003 Assembly primary. : "The voters made their choice in voting Doria out of office," Chiappone said. "He was appointed, not elected." : The assemblyman said Doria also showed disregard for those voters when he challenged the results of the 2003 primary. : "He accused them of voter fraud and now he wants to represent them?" Chiappone said. "I don't think that's proper." : Doria countered that he had a long record of achievement in the Assembly. : "I have 24 years of service in the Assembly," Doria said. "Over 250 bills I sponsored became law. I'm running on my record." : Chiappone said his candidacy was also a jab at the Hudson County Democratic Party, which backed Doria and intended to oppose Chiappone in his Assembly re-election bid next year. : "I'm using this opportunity to take the fight to them instead," Chiappone said. : There is no Republican candidate in the special election so the outcome will not affect the 22-18 advantage held in the Senate by Democrats. Republican officials conceded the race in the heavily Democratic district. : Two other independent candidates are running in the special election. One candidate is John H. Watson, a Jersey City funeral home director. The other is Kabili Tayari, a business administrator for Jersey City and president of the city's NAACP branch. : Watson said he was a Democrat despite his independent status in the special election. He said he was in the race due to concerns about taxes, education and health issues. He doesn't consider Doria's selection to fill Cunningham's seat an issue because voters will get to decide the successor in the special election. : "It's important to have someone on that spot who represents everyone," Watson said. "We have a diverse ethnic community here." : Repeated calls over more than a week seeking comment from Tayari were not returned. ***************** End Of Article ****************** In Hudson County is not a honest democrat . posted Message 9310 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 20:45:03 Subject: Re: an honest democrat : : Ok people I have a question. The Hudson County democratic Organization has given us some of these names in the past. Robert Janiszewski , Joseph Barry , William Braker ,Nidia Davila-Colon ,Buddy Demellier, Jack Burn, Gene Drayton, Tom DeGise, Bobby Knapp, L. Harvey Smith, Anthony Russo, Dr. Oscar Sandoval, and a lot that I cant think of. Now you bring us Jerry healy an “honest democrat” how many time are you going to tell us he an honest man? It’s getting me thinking! : : How can we trust you? Why should we trust you? You forgot Bobby Jackson , Joe Caldwell,The so call priest from St. Patrick father Guiness or Shillar....etc.etc. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Congressman Menendez was a honest democrat, now he is only a devilrat....... posted Message 9311 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 20:48:17 Subject: Re: an honest democrat : : : Ok people I have a question. The Hudson County democratic Organization has given us some of these names in the past. Robert Janiszewski , Joseph Barry , William Braker ,Nidia Davila-Colon ,Buddy Demellier, Jack Burn, Gene Drayton, Tom DeGise, Bobby Knapp, L. Harvey Smith, Anthony Russo, Dr. Oscar Sandoval, and a lot that I cant think of. Now you bring us Jerry healy an “honest democrat” how many time are you going to tell us he an honest man? It’s getting me thinking! : : : How can we trust you? Why should we trust you? : You forgot Bobby Jackson , Joe Caldwell,The so call priest : from St. Patrick father Guiness or Shillar....etc.etc. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tarantinni for Congress 2006 posted Message 9312 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 20:59:34 Subject: Mr Taranttini Mr tarantinni owns Pizza Bella in Newark and is the cousin of the Manzos. A vote for Tarantinni is a vote for a free Pizza. ***************** End Of Article ****************** YES HEALY WINS,YES HEALY WINS WINS posted Message 9313 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:04:15 Subject: Re: ALL POLLS AND SURVEYS INDICATE HEALY WINS!!! : ALL POLLS ARE TELLING THAT JERRY HEALY WILL WIN DESPITE THE DIRTY CAMPAIGN MANZO IS RUNNING SORRY LOONEY LOUIE ITS OVER HEALY WINS BIG. A NICE CLEAN PAIR OF UNDERWARE!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Goughan healy is a illness posted Message 9314 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:07:42 Subject: Re:Healy staff Out of Money : These sorry souls are drinking hair tonic. They can't pay their bar tab at the Astor and credit was cut off. Healy promises to cash in his retirement savings to keep the booze flowing. : : : : :::crybaby is NOT invited! : : : : manzo's staff is burned out and bickering, they have put signs on all the vacant homes, telephone polls, and put in big ads, but they still can't get up in the polls. Tuesday night at Casino in the Park, is going to look like a convention for crybabies! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Cramwell posted Message 9315 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:10:18 Subject: Healy supporters out of booze Reports are coming in that they are drinking Listerine and sniffing airplane glue. Oh, the humanity! ***************** End Of Article ****************** HE AN HONEST NAKED DRUNK OF A MAN WILL BE OUR MAYOR posted Message 9316 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:12:39 Subject: Re: How can we trust you? Why should we trust you? : If Jerry Healy was so honest why would he want to be associated with all the crooks and criminals you mentioned below? : Whats the saying, 'Birds of feather flock together'. : : : Ok people I have a question. The Hudson County democratic Organization has given us some of these names in the past. Robert Janiszewski , Joseph Barry , William Braker ,Nidia Davila-Colon ,Buddy Demellier, Jack Burn, Gene Drayton, Tom DeGise, Bobby Knapp, L. Harvey Smith, Anthony Russo, Dr. Oscar Sandoval, and a lot that I cant think of. Now you bring us Jerry healy an “honest democrat” how many time are you going to tell us he an honest man? It’s getting me thinking! : : How can we trust you? Why should we trust you? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Honest drunk democrat, honest naked democrat , McCann honest felon democrat posted Message 9317 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:15:11 Subject: Re: an honest democrat : Oxymoron that’s just what I was thinking. I think im going to go with someone that’s not part of the HCDO im voting for flood or manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Cramwell posted Message 9318 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:16:24 Subject: Re: BILL GAUGHAN AND JERRY HEALY SAY RON MANZO IS GAY Bill, "Booze Hound", Gaughan's liver falls out of his ass at news conference with Jerry "Naked Jaybird" Healy. Beefeater Breath Bill makes claims the Jaybird was cornholed during a diabetic coma. What is this world coming to!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Cramwell posted Message 9319 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:30:41 Subject: Re: Healy Inaugural Ceremony Plans There will be a nude parade from the Coachhouse Diner to 280 Grove St, at which time Mayor Healy will introduce his Deputy Mayor, Mr. Weenie. Tom DeGise will then take the stage and describe each and every stain on his tie. Of course, the evening would not be complete without a performance by the amazing molester, Marty Budnick. And finally, Beefeater Breath Bill Gaughan will cough up an undetermined amount of vital organs. It'll be quite a sight to see. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Confirmed posted Message 9320 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:37:31 Subject: HaHaHealy Web Site The Ha-Ha Healy Web Site has the same registration as the Manzo for Mayor web site. Of 1,000,000 possible sites, they are both registered at the same site out of Melbourne, Australia. Coincidence? One in a million shot? Explain this one Lou. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Cramwell posted Message 9321 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:38:41 Subject: Re: MANSOUR FOR MAYOR! Mansour is an Arab piece of sh!t. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Cramwell posted Message 9322 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:43:04 Subject: Easy :Get his ass in rehab and spend the rest of his life attending AA meetings. Oh, and stay away from Beefeater Breath Bill ***************** End Of Article ****************** My Black is Back posted Message 9323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:46:15 Subject: Eugene Drayton now kissing Harvey's Ass It didn't take long for Drayton to dump Bonocore. He has been recently seen down at City Hall with some money people in an attempt to buy his way back in. Sources say, Drayton wants to get his color back, but can't go with Flood because of Jackson and Cardwell. Drayton is to become the new Leader in development. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Cramwell posted Message 9324 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:46:21 Subject: Re: HaHaHealy Web Site Wow! You've really uncover something there. But the truth is you couldn't COUNT to a million, let alone figure out those kind of odds. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Cramwell posted Message 9325 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:49:46 Subject: Gene can kiss my ass That bed bug is sh!t in everybodies eyes. Put a fork in em, he's done. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 9326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:52:31 Subject: Blessings be upon you !!! You care .. you really care !!! I can feel the love in this room .. it's almost like being back in the seminary. All huggy kissy feely weely ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 9327 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 21:54:16 Subject: I thought he was kissing ... Sandy's ass these days ? Bwahahahahahahahaha !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 9328 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 22:34:21 Subject: HEALY RALLY PACKED TO THE HILT. MANZO AT A STAND STILL HEALY WILL WIN BY A WIDE MARGIN ON TUESDAY MCMANZO ARE FINISHED AND SO WILL HIS ASSEMBLY SEAT NEXT YEAR. MCCANN THE GARBAGE INSPECTOR WILL BE UNEMPLOYED NEXT WEEK. GO HEALY!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Don't Know What Your Talking About posted Message 9329 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 23:13:26 Subject: Re: HaHaHealy Web Site Nice try but your comment is bogus. You register sites with a registration company like Network Solutions, but you host a site with a web hosting company. You don;t have any control where the hosting company actually has the site. : The Ha-Ha Healy Web Site has the same registration as the Manzo for Mayor web site. Of 1,000,000 possible sites, they are both registered at the same site out of Melbourne, Australia. Coincidence? One in a million shot? Explain this one Lou. ***************** End Of Article ****************** tom posted Message 9330 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 23:13:42 Subject: Re: HEALY RALLY PACKED TO THE HILT. MANZO AT A STAND STILL : HEALY WILL WIN BY A WIDE MARGIN ON TUESDAY MCMANZO ARE FINISHED AND SO WILL HIS ASSEMBLY SEAT NEXT YEAR. : MCCANN THE GARBAGE INSPECTOR WILL BE UNEMPLOYED NEXT WEEK. : GO HEALY!! how come all the fence jumpers from manzo camp were trying to get in the rally sean connors was seen talking to healy today something must be wrong at the manzo camp i smell victory healy ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bad, stale beer breathe posted Message 9331 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 23:16:43 Subject: You smell Healy;s Please stop taking that cheap dope. You don't know what your talking about. Healy is in hiding. His brain trust has quit working, but did not stop drinking. : : HEALY WILL WIN BY A WIDE MARGIN ON TUESDAY MCMANZO ARE FINISHED AND SO WILL HIS ASSEMBLY SEAT NEXT YEAR. : : MCCANN THE GARBAGE INSPECTOR WILL BE UNEMPLOYED NEXT WEEK. : : GO HEALY!! : how come all the fence jumpers from manzo camp were trying to get in the rally sean connors was seen talking to healy today something must be wrong at the manzo camp i smell victory healy ***************** End Of Article ****************** HE CAN DO IT ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE posted Message 9332 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 28, 2004 at 23:18:30 Subject: Re: Eugene Drayton now kissing Harvey's Ass : It didn't take long for Drayton to dump Bonocore. He has been recently seen down at City Hall with some money people in an attempt to buy his way back in. Sources say, Drayton wants to get his color back, but can't go with Flood because of Jackson and Cardwell. : Drayton is to become the new Leader in development. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JohnB posted Message 9333 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 00:30:09 Subject: Re: Four candidates look to fill Cunningham's seat Not with Nader you bananahead. The race for Senate is seperate. All four candidates are Democrats stupid! ***************** End Of Article ****************** BobbyJ posted Message 9334 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 01:57:19 Subject: Dump Doria, but before you do.... go to his website at: www.doria.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCANN IS NOT A ISSUE posted Message 9335 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 01:59:37 Subject: FELON=GARBAGE = EX-MAYOR=LOOSER McCann had his glory days now he has his crazy days with a touch of complex. Poor guy from been the power to be the servant of Lou Manzo the legislator and soon to be Mayor McCann mentally after 3 yrs. in federal jail can not handle be a 5th class puppet for a political operation he is in control of the staples sings and some others duties .If Manzo wins his job in the garbage dept. wilbe there for him. Gerry happy garbage victory you know the authorities don't want you in any other place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chiappone and Nader for president lets vote left posted Message 9336 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 02:01:51 Subject: Re: Dump Doria, but before you do.... : go to his website at: www.doria.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie Flood andSandy are extremelly happy posted Message 9337 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 02:10:06 Subject: Re: Eugene Drayton now kissing Harvey's Ass : It didn't take long for Drayton to dump Bonocore. He has been recently seen down at City Hall with some money people in an attempt to buy his way back in. Sources say, Drayton wants to get his color back, but can't go with Flood because of Jackson and Cardwell. : Drayton is to become the new Leader in development. Willie and Sandy are smiling again thanks to the return of Mr Gene Drayton to there side no more BBQ man with colorful clothes and little man with low life newspaper . The victory is in our hands with THE FDS Flood Drayton Sandy team. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy the NAKED star posted Message 9338 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 02:13:32 Subject: Re: HaHaHealy Web Site : Nice try but your comment is bogus. You register sites with a registration company like Network Solutions, but you host a site with a web hosting company. You don;t have any control where the hosting company actually has the site. : : : The Ha-Ha Healy Web Site has the same registration as the Manzo for Mayor web site. Of 1,000,000 possible sites, they are both registered at the same site out of Melbourne, Australia. Coincidence? One in a million shot? Explain this one Lou. ***************** End Of Article ****************** NADER FOR PRESIDENT WE HAVE A CHOICE posted Message 9339 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 02:20:43 Subject: THE LEFT IS HERE TO WIN Help is with us thanks to Ralph Nader Chiappone candidate for president,if you are in trouble Nader Chiappone team is next to you . Meet our team in the parking lot S/mkt MLK next saturday 6pm guitars and flowers love and peace . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chiappone I'm not taking a shower til Nov.3 posted Message 9340 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 02:32:28 Subject: Re: THE LEFT IS HERE TO WIN : Help is with us thanks to Ralph Nader Chiappone candidate : for president,if you are in trouble Nader Chiappone team : is next to you . Meet our team in the parking lot S/mkt MLK : next saturday 6pm guitars and flowers love and peace . ***************** End Of Article ****************** real deal posted Message 9341 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 03:17:34 Subject: Joe??? Hey Joe.. too bad you aint a real person. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thanks, that was fun posted Message 9342 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 07:23:39 Subject: Re: Dump Doria, but before you do.... : : go to his website at: www.doria.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** That lying bastard posted Message 9343 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 07:28:08 Subject: Re: Gene can kiss my ass and mine too Only is worrying about himself. His days are finally over, no more free ride on Glen's coattails. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well, another loser posted Message 9344 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 07:33:37 Subject: JJ Endorses Manzo JJ, does it again. They have not picked a winner for mayor ever since the newspaper has been in existence. The best thing Manzo could have hoped for was not to be cursed by the JJ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frightening posted Message 9345 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 07:37:45 Subject: McCann's picture above Whew, doesn't that picture above just scare the hell out of you. Do you think that the site posted it just in time for Holloween? Maybe all of us can be like Gerry. Isn't it ironic, that Gerry works on a garbage truck doing inspections, when he told the US Attorney General that would be his job when Gerry was finish with him during Gerry's trial? Gerry really knows how to pick um! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Takeover posted Message 9346 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 08:20:16 Subject: McCann & Menendez &Kenny ready to take over Jersey City Big money to be made off the taxpayers back.Brain dead Ward F fall into the Kerry trap. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bradley Beach Healy posted Message 9347 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 08:33:58 Subject: Healy also arrested in Bradley Beach On the same charges.call the Asbury Park Press ***************** End Of Article ****************** Winnie! posted Message 9348 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 08:58:11 Subject: Tinkle , Tinkle Little : On the same charges.call the Asbury Park Press ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jerry Healy posted Message 9349 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 09:02:09 Subject: Than There's Hope for Well if Jerry is happy working for the garbage dept, than there's hope that Jerry Healy can be rehabilitated. You know, stop drinking, take couselling to get at the root cause why he takes off his clothes in publics beats his wife and can't find a bathroom when he's out on the streets. Yes, Jerry can make a comeback too. : McCann had his glory days now he has his crazy days with : a touch of complex. Poor guy from been the power to be the servant of Lou Manzo the legislator and soon to be Mayor : McCann mentally after 3 yrs. in federal jail can not handle : be a 5th class puppet for a political operation he is in control : of the staples sings and some others duties .If Manzo wins : his job in the garbage dept. wilbe there for him. Gerry happy : garbage victory you know the authorities don't want you in any other place. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy would die for that endorsement posted Message 9350 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 09:03:08 Subject: Re: JJ Endorses Manzo : JJ, does it again. They have not picked a winner for mayor ever since the newspaper has been in existence. The best thing Manzo could have hoped for was not to be cursed by the JJ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** So? posted Message 9351 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 09:07:11 Subject: Re: HEALY RALLY PACKED TO THE HILT. MANZO AT A STAND STILL ::Sean Connors talks to everybody. : : HEALY WILL WIN BY A WIDE MARGIN ON TUESDAY MCMANZO ARE FINISHED AND SO WILL HIS ASSEMBLY SEAT NEXT YEAR. : : MCCANN THE GARBAGE INSPECTOR WILL BE UNEMPLOYED NEXT WEEK. : : GO HEALY!! : how come all the fence jumpers from manzo camp were trying to get in the rally sean connors was seen talking to healy today something must be wrong at the manzo camp i smell victory healy ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lou's the One posted Message 9352 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 09:11:13 Subject: Jersey Journal Article Assemblyman Louis Manzo for mayor of Jersey City Friday, October 29, 2004 England's great Prime Minister Winston Churchill could have been describing state Assemblyman Louis Manzo when he said, "Success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm." Manzo, 49, is taking his fourth shot at becoming mayor of Jersey City, one of 11 candidates in Tuesday's special election to fill the remaining months of the late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham's term. A municipal election will be held in May, with the current term ending June 30. The Jersey Journal is endorsing Manzo for mayor. It was one of the Journal's most difficult decisions in memory considering the large field of qualified candidates. It is unfortunate that this election campaign was one of the dirtiest in memory, even by Hudson County standards. This conduct can turn people off to the election process. We believe city residents understand their obligation as American citizens to exercise their right to vote and that they will look beyond the mud and cast their ballots. There were new faces in this election campaign and their positions and observations were refreshing. First-time campaigners Hosam Mansour, Hilario Nuñez, Alfred Marc Pine, Dwayne Baskerville, Thomas Short and Isaiah Gadsden have insights into life and concerns in the city that mainstream politicians sometimes overlook. More veteran politicians have noticed, too, and we expect to hear some of these political newcomers' names again. Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith has filled in capably at City Hall in the months since Cunningham died. But the Journal is looking for a future mayor more likely to think outside the box in seeking ways to improve life for the city's citizens. The Jersey Journal endorsed Smith in last year's Democratic primary for the state Senate seat in the 31st District, and we still believe he would do well as a state legislator should the opportunity arise again. His strength as City Council president has been in handling all the personalities on the council, a role we trust he will continue to play through next May's election. Councilman-at-Large Jerramiah Healy is a well-liked individual who has served well but not spectacularly in city government. Like others, Healy has a populist platform that calls for more police and cleaner streets. His motto of "don't lie, don't cheat and don't steal" would be enough for many voters, but the city needs to be selfish and ask for more. His recent well-publicized image problem unfortunately points to a lapse in judgment. Ward C Councilman Steve Lipski says he would not hesitate to invite developers to join him at the city's table. We do not doubt this. There is a sense that developers have a standing invitation; you have to admire his upfront support for tax abatements. One interesting idea he has proposed during the campaign is obtaining software that can monitor reports of criminal activity and determine where more police are needed and whether law enforcement efforts are working. Former Councilwoman Willie Flood has served the city for many years. Her ideas for the Mayor's Office have to do with quality-of-life issues. With a no-nonsense, anticrime position, she has stressed the need to close down the city's open-air drug markets and improve police response times. She supports curfews for the young and would like to see more jobs available for city residents. But, there is a need for much more visionary thinking in a mayor. The Journal believes Manzo has the drive to energize City Hall. He was endorsed by this newspaper for the state Assembly seat in the 31st District with the hope he would stir things up in Trenton and hit the ground running. He did just that. He was at the forefront of the effort to save the Highlands region of the state from developers to preserve the water quality in North Jersey, including the Jersey City reservoir. He introduced a patient safety health bill that provides protection and remedies for patients in hospitals against misdiagnosis and malpractice. He was responsible for obtaining $10 million for treatment center resources as part of the needle exchange bill passed by the Assembly. He sponsored an environmental restoration bill that moved $24 million from an underground tank removal account that will now be used for cleaning brownfields and chromium-tainted sites. He co-sponsored a bill that places Jersey City and Bayonne within a regional port warehousing district that is expected to create more jobs. He was upfront in the fight for property tax reform, for a smart growth bill that increased property tax rebates and is the catalyst for a possible state constitutional convention. He has just brought a measure before the Assembly that would tighten the rules governing abatements statewide, including one provision that would prohibit the transfer of abatements - an answer to the controversial Flintkote tax abatement approval by the Jersey City City Council. It was an impressive first year for Manzo in Trenton. It is time to tap the dynamo where he will do the most good, here in Jersey City. If elected Tuesday, Manzo will have six months to show he can do the job before voters are asked again to select a mayor and City Council. After the Gold Coast years, the city has become stagnant and a good portion of it never shared in the economic good times. Manzo is something of an idealist and not afraid to try a new approach. It is this attitude that could only benefit the soon-to-be largest city in the state. One problem in a Manzo administration would be the presence of former Mayor Gerry McCann, a person who this newspaper feels would be a less than a positive asset. We hope Manzo's insistence that McCann will have no role in City Hall and that he will rely on the support of his deputy mayors, Freeholder Bill O'Dea and former Councilwoman Melissa Holloway, holds true. Questionable influences have plagued many a Hudson County mayor, hurting the residents in the process. If elected to this short term, Manzo can be sure the public - and this newspaper - will be watching. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Believer posted Message 9353 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 09:18:08 Subject: Third Time's a Charm :The Jersey Journal endorsed Lou Manzo for both Freeholder and Assemblyman and he won both times! Just remember,as the saying goes, the third time's a charm. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy NAKED AND DRUNK BRADLEY Beach posted Message 9354 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 09:26:31 Subject: Re: Healy also arrested in Bradley Beach : On the same charges.call the Asbury Park Press Healy and the naked culture .........Asbury Park Press ***************** End Of Article ****************** DumpDoriaNow! posted Message 9355 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 09:45:48 Subject: Re: Four candidates look to fill Cunningham's seat You mean, Doria's the only one who knows how to EAT! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ok Healy People- Explain This One posted Message 9356 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 10:00:29 Subject: Re: Healy Healy exposed himself in Bradley Beach? My god, is there an end to the Healy nightmare? : : On the same charges.call the Asbury Park Press : Healy and the naked culture .........Asbury Park Press ***************** End Of Article ****************** Old Geezer posted Message 9357 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 10:48:42 Subject: You're wrong - - JJ has endorsed a winner I know at my age my memory gets a little cloudy. But as I recall the Jersey Journal endorsed a guy named Bret Schundler. And I do recall him being Mayor of Jersey City for a few years. So maybe you should go back and check your facts. The JJ has been wrong more times than right. But they did endorse a winner in recent memory. : : JJ, does it again. They have not picked a winner for mayor ever since the newspaper has been in existence. The best thing Manzo could have hoped for was not to be cursed by the JJ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Music Man posted Message 9358 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 10:50:11 Subject: Healy's Favorite Song.... Little Willie Willie won't GO HOME!!! COme on Jerry...put that thing away!!! : Healy exposed himself in Bradley Beach? My god, is there an end to the Healy nightmare? : : : : On the same charges.call the Asbury Park Press : : Healy and the naked culture .........Asbury Park Press ***************** End Of Article ****************** Slam Dunk posted Message 9359 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:11:40 Subject: SLAM DUNK Acting Mayor Smith, Where were you when Joe Doria challenged the voting rights of some 2,000 plus Ward F residents? I'll tell you where you were, you were in bed with Joe Doria and the county machine (HCDO). You did not breathe a living word to defend the rights of the same people of "Ward F" you are now trying to get to vote for you. "What goes around comes around." You were the HCDO's "GOOD OLD BOY". They even convinced you, because they were aware of your uncontained, Napoleonic ego, to challenge Glenn for the Senate seat. Now, you have the unmitigated gaul to ask the same people you allowed to be "Fed to the lions" by you, Joe Doria and the HCDO, for their vote. Uncle Harvey, can't you see that the HCDO was only using you to block any and all of Glenn's inititives, appointments, etc. Do you remember how you blocked the Revs. Brower and McReynolds appointments? People have not and will not forget you pias, halty, disrespectful attitude. Have you ever heard the expression, "The chickens always come home to roost? Well, now that Glenn has passed on, I'm sure you know by now, they were only using you as their Glenn killer. They used you like cheap, one ply, toilet paper. The county (HCDO)has kicked you to the curve and no longer wants any thing to do with you. Guess what, neither do the people of "Ward F". PACK YOUR BAGS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Slam Dunk posted Message 9360 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:16:37 Subject: Slam Dunk Acting Mayor Smith...and you are acting; you have the nerve to call Mrs. Flood an "Airhead". When we were young, we use to say "It takes one to know one". Well, I had the displeasure of hearing you speak earlier this at the so called "Homeland Security" fiasco. Guess what I observed, "You can't read." You couldn't even read, with clarity, what was prepared for you. All of the daas, disses and daatts.... Whats up with THAT. How did you ever get out of college? Oh should we forget, you were a scholarship basketball jock. Always remember, "STICKS AND STONES MAY BREAK HER BONES BUT NAMES WILL NEVER HURT HER" ***************** End Of Article ****************** You are right Schundler was a winner posted Message 9361 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:17:48 Subject: Re: You're wrong - - JJ has endorsed a winner They also have a habit of endorsing the candidate who spends the most money for their ads with their paper. Manzo wins. Now go and check those facts, you old gizzer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy posted Message 9362 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:23:56 Subject: Astor Bar Endorses At least Healy will get one endorsement, .... the candidate that racked up the largest bar bill in the history of Jersey City,.... no small feat! : They also have a habit of endorsing the candidate who spends the most money for their ads with their paper. Manzo wins. : Now go and check those facts, you old gizzer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well Said! posted Message 9363 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:25:44 Subject: Re: SLAM DUNK : Acting Mayor Smith, : Where were you when Joe Doria challenged the voting rights of some 2,000 plus Ward F residents? I'll tell you where you were, you were in bed with Joe Doria and the county machine (HCDO). You did not breathe a living word to defend the rights of the same people of "Ward F" you are now trying to get to vote for you. "What goes around comes around." You were the HCDO's "GOOD OLD BOY". They even convinced you, because they were aware of your uncontained, Napoleonic ego, to challenge Glenn for the Senate seat. Now, you have the unmitigated gaul to ask the same people you allowed to be "Fed to the lions" by you, Joe Doria and the HCDO, for their vote. Uncle Harvey, can't you see that the HCDO was only using you to block any and all of Glenn's inititives, appointments, etc. Do you remember how you blocked the Revs. Brower and McReynolds appointments? People have not and will not forget you pias, halty, disrespectful attitude. Have you ever heard the expression, "The chickens always come home to roost? Well, now that Glenn has passed on, I'm sure you know by now, they were only using you as their Glenn killer. They used you like cheap, one ply, toilet paper. The county (HCDO)has kicked you to the curve and no longer wants any thing to do with you. Guess what, neither do the people of "Ward F". PACK YOUR BAGS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Slam Dunk posted Message 9364 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:29:44 Subject: Slam Dunk Acting Mayor Smith, Do you have any ideas of your own? You are not only a liar, but a plagarist. Oops, pardon the term plagarist; I forget your four year free college basketball JOCK ride!!! Firstly, you tried to take credit for the Dr. Ercel F. Webb Park memorial... "How dare you." You went as far as to take the name of our late, great Mayor Cunningham off of Dr. Webb's monument. Sadly enough, you tried to replace it with your own.... the nerve.... you jock. You consistently try to take credit for things that are, or have already been put in place. Secondly, the "Homeland Security" piece, you attempted to claim as your own, and ironically take credit for (plagiarism), was already in place. Why is it so that the late Mayor Cunningham haunts you on a daily basis? Last, but not least, "THE DAILY CHALLENGE JOKES" jokes. For your lies and deceptions, you can't even get publicity fo your own from the local media, so what do you do.... "You try to create you own" How sad!!!! The situation, in which you find yourself, is of your own doing. You could have been "THE AIR APPARENT." Yet, like JUDAS, you were brought for thirty pieces of silver. As a sidebar, assuming you know what a BIBLE is .... I hope you find one somewhere, and read (oops I forget, you have a reading deficency) about the fate of JUDADS. Suggestion for Bible procurement, I'm sure that Rev. Brower or Rev McReynolds will be more than happy to loan you one or even read for you. Acting Mayor, you can't fool the people. We know your game(s). Now, because of all your lies, deceptions, strong arming, threats, intimidations, etc. Your not wanted by most people, the county, and most important, the people of Ward F. PACK YOUR BAGS!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Any suggestion? posted Message 9365 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:36:25 Subject: What a crew to choose from! L. Harvey Smith went against his own people to help the HCDO’s attempt to take down our late beloved Mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham. allegedly known for making early am visits to girlfriend, when not beating wife. J. Healy doesn’t know if he is running to, or from the bar. For the record it is said, that the only bar he passed was when he took the “Bar exam”. On several different occasions had problems keeping his pants on. also allegedly known on occasion in Bradley Beach to beat his wife, charged later downgraded to public nuisance. Louis Manzo can’t keep away from criminals. Several spent time in jail, others with him are still under investigation. confused over his manhood. Classic closet case like Healy above won’t admit their problems. I guess I’ll vote for the guy with the RV, at least he says what his problems are upfront. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wonderfully put. The truth does hurt. posted Message 9366 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:37:02 Subject: Re: SLAM DUNK : Acting Mayor Smith, : Where were you when Joe Doria challenged the voting rights of some 2,000 plus Ward F residents? I'll tell you where you were, you were in bed with Joe Doria and the county machine (HCDO). You did not breathe a living word to defend the rights of the same people of "Ward F" you are now trying to get to vote for you. "What goes around comes around." You were the HCDO's "GOOD OLD BOY". They even convinced you, because they were aware of your uncontained, Napoleonic ego, to challenge Glenn for the Senate seat. Now, you have the unmitigated gaul to ask the same people you allowed to be "Fed to the lions" by you, Joe Doria and the HCDO, for their vote. Uncle Harvey, can't you see that the HCDO was only using you to block any and all of Glenn's inititives, appointments, etc. Do you remember how you blocked the Revs. Brower and McReynolds appointments? People have not and will not forget you pias, halty, disrespectful attitude. Have you ever heard the expression, "The chickens always come home to roost? Well, now that Glenn has passed on, I'm sure you know by now, they were only using you as their Glenn killer. They used you like cheap, one ply, toilet paper. The county (HCDO)has kicked you to the curve and no longer wants any thing to do with you. Guess what, neither do the people of "Ward F". PACK YOUR BAGS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward F posted Message 9367 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:37:50 Subject: It SOunds Like Harvey May Have a Problem In : Acting Mayor Smith, : Do you have any ideas of your own? You are not only a liar, but a plagarist. Oops, pardon the term plagarist; I forget your four year free college basketball JOCK ride!!! Firstly, you tried to take credit for the Dr. Ercel F. Webb Park memorial... "How dare you." You went as far as to take the name of our late, great Mayor Cunningham off of Dr. Webb's monument. Sadly enough, you tried to replace it with your own.... the nerve.... you jock. You consistently try to take credit for things that are, or have already been put in place. Secondly, the "Homeland Security" piece, you attempted to claim as your own, and ironically take credit for (plagiarism), was already in place. Why is it so that the late Mayor Cunningham haunts you on a daily basis? Last, but not least, "THE DAILY CHALLENGE JOKES" jokes. For your lies and deceptions, you can't even get publicity fo your own from the local media, so what do you do.... "You try to create you own" How sad!!!! The situation, in which you find yourself, is of your own doing. You could have been "THE AIR APPARENT." Yet, like JUDAS, you were brought for thirty pieces of silver. : As a sidebar, assuming you know what a BIBLE is .... I hope you find one somewhere, and read (oops I forget, you have a reading deficency) about the fate of JUDADS. Suggestion for Bible procurement, I'm sure that Rev. Brower or Rev McReynolds will be more than happy to loan you one or even read for you. : Acting Mayor, you can't fool the people. We know your game(s). Now, because of all your lies, deceptions, strong arming, threats, intimidations, etc. Your not wanted by most people, the county, and most important, the people of Ward F. PACK YOUR BAGS!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cousin of Sandra posted Message 9368 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:39:21 Subject: Sandra, that you, you go girl! : Acting Mayor Smith, : Where were you when Joe Doria challenged the voting rights of some 2,000 plus Ward F residents? I'll tell you where you were, you were in bed with Joe Doria and the county machine (HCDO). You did not breathe a living word to defend the rights of the same people of "Ward F" you are now trying to get to vote for you. "What goes around comes around." You were the HCDO's "GOOD OLD BOY". They even convinced you, because they were aware of your uncontained, Napoleonic ego, to challenge Glenn for the Senate seat. Now, you have the unmitigated gaul to ask the same people you allowed to be "Fed to the lions" by you, Joe Doria and the HCDO, for their vote. Uncle Harvey, can't you see that the HCDO was only using you to block any and all of Glenn's inititives, appointments, etc. Do you remember how you blocked the Revs. Brower and McReynolds appointments? People have not and will not forget you pias, halty, disrespectful attitude. Have you ever heard the expression, "The chickens always come home to roost? Well, now that Glenn has passed on, I'm sure you know by now, they were only using you as their Glenn killer. They used you like cheap, one ply, toilet paper. The county (HCDO)has kicked you to the curve and no longer wants any thing to do with you. Guess what, neither do the people of "Ward F". PACK YOUR BAGS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Watch Out posted Message 9369 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:39:40 Subject: Guy with the RV has a criminal record Well ... if you discount Manzo because of his association with someone with a record, then how could you vote for Lipsky who HAS a Criminal Record?!?!? At least Mccann paid his debt to society. And Manzo is a good man who cares for this city. : L. Harvey Smith went against his own people to help the HCDO’s attempt to take down our late beloved Mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham. : : allegedly known for making early am visits to girlfriend, when not beating wife. : J. Healy doesn’t know if he is running to, or from the bar. For the record it is said, that the only bar he passed was when he took the “Bar exam”. On several different occasions had problems keeping his pants on. : also allegedly known on occasion in Bradley Beach to beat his wife, charged later downgraded to public nuisance. : Louis Manzo can’t keep away from criminals. Several spent time in jail, others with him are still under investigation. : confused over his manhood. Classic closet case like Healy above won’t admit their problems. : I guess I’ll vote for the guy with the RV, at least he says what his problems are upfront. : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Old Geezer posted Message 9370 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:42:31 Subject: Re: You're wrong - - JJ has endorsed a winner No facts need to be to checked.....the JJ endorsed Schundler - - - he won. And to further debunk your claim....the JJ endorsed CUnningham and he won too. And I never made any statement about a correlation between ad dollars spent and endorsements. * * * * * * * * * : They also have a habit of endorsing the candidate who spends the most money for their ads with their paper. Manzo wins. : Now go and check those facts, you old gizzer. ***************** End Of Article ****************** What criminial record? posted Message 9371 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:48:19 Subject: Re: Guy with the RV has a criminal record : Well ... if you discount Manzo because of his association with someone with a record, then how could you vote for Lipsky who HAS a Criminal Record?!?!? At least Mccann paid his debt to society. And Manzo is a good man who cares for this city. : : L. Harvey Smith went against his own people to help the HCDO’s attempt to take down our late beloved Mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham. : : : : allegedly known for making early am visits to girlfriend, when not beating wife. : : J. Healy doesn’t know if he is running to, or from the bar. For the record it is said, that the only bar he passed was when he took the “Bar exam”. On several different occasions had problems keeping his pants on. : : also allegedly known on occasion in Bradley Beach to beat his wife, charged later downgraded to public nuisance. : : Louis Manzo can’t keep away from criminals. Several spent time in jail, others with him are still under investigation. : : confused over his manhood. Classic closet case like Healy above won’t admit their problems. : : I guess I’ll vote for the guy with the RV, at least he says what his problems are upfront. : : : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** You are quite eloquent posted Message 9372 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:49:17 Subject: Re: Slam Dunk : Acting Mayor Smith...and you are acting; you have the nerve to call Mrs. Flood an "Airhead". When we were young, we use to say "It takes one to know one". Well, I had the displeasure of hearing you speak earlier this at the so called "Homeland Security" fiasco. Guess what I observed, "You can't read." You couldn't even read, with clarity, what was prepared for you. All of the daas, disses and daatts.... Whats up with THAT. How did you ever get out of college? Oh should we forget, you were a scholarship basketball jock. Always remember, "STICKS AND STONES MAY BREAK HER BONES BUT NAMES WILL NEVER HURT HER" ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yes he Does! posted Message 9373 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:51:26 Subject: Re: Guy with the RV has a criminal record And you will soon hear about Lipski's criminal activities relating to this campaign. and read the JJ endorsement of Lou manzo, see what the JJ has to say about Lipski. : : Well ... if you discount Manzo because of his association with someone with a record, then how could you vote for Lipsky who HAS a Criminal Record?!?!? At least Mccann paid his debt to society. And Manzo is a good man who cares for this city. : : : L. Harvey Smith went against his own people to help the HCDO’s attempt to take down our late beloved Mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham. : : : : : : allegedly known for making early am visits to girlfriend, when not beating wife. : : : J. Healy doesn’t know if he is running to, or from the bar. For the record it is said, that the only bar he passed was when he took the “Bar exam”. On several different occasions had problems keeping his pants on. : : : also allegedly known on occasion in Bradley Beach to beat his wife, charged later downgraded to public nuisance. : : : Louis Manzo can’t keep away from criminals. Several spent time in jail, others with him are still under investigation. : : : confused over his manhood. Classic closet case like Healy above won’t admit their problems. : : : I guess I’ll vote for the guy with the RV, at least he says what his problems are upfront. : : : : : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** We Miss You posted Message 9374 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:56:26 Subject: Where have the Healy Homophobes Gone? Geepers, its been about a day now since the Healy homophobes last posted their old favorite 'Manzo is a Homo'. I miss seeing their hatred for minorities, women and gay people seep from their posts. Well, its been enjoyable, but I guess the homophobes has packed their tents and moved permanently to Bradley Beach. Bye bye gang, and by the way, don't show up at city hall and beg Mayor Manzo for a job, if you need that go to see Tony A$$mobile or Buddy Boy, these two have plenty of cash to pass around. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward F posted Message 9375 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 11:59:26 Subject: Are you all still brain dead? Remember Menendez,Kerry, Smith, Doria.Keep your record in tack.Being dumb is sometimes a good thing-HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** They Like Zoombies posted Message 9376 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 12:02:46 Subject: The HCDO Voters that don;t think and who take orders willingly are their target constituency. : Remember Menendez,Kerry, Smith, Doria.Keep your record in tack.Being dumb is sometimes a good thing-HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Old Geezer posted Message 9377 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 12:05:44 Subject: Re: Guy with the RV has a criminal record Forget Lipski's criminal activity related to this campaign...I'm talking about his charge and arrest from 15 years ago. I have his booking photo ;) He looks like a deer in the headlights... : And you will soon hear about Lipski's criminal activities relating to this campaign. and read the JJ endorsement of Lou manzo, see what the JJ has to say about Lipski. : : : : Well ... if you discount Manzo because of his association with someone with a record, then how could you vote for Lipsky who HAS a Criminal Record?!?!? At least Mccann paid his debt to society. And Manzo is a good man who cares for this city. : : : : L. Harvey Smith went against his own people to help the HCDO’s attempt to take down our late beloved Mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham. : : : : : : : : allegedly known for making early am visits to girlfriend, when not beating wife. : : : : J. Healy doesn’t know if he is running to, or from the bar. For the record it is said, that the only bar he passed was when he took the “Bar exam”. On several different occasions had problems keeping his pants on. : : : : also allegedly known on occasion in Bradley Beach to beat his wife, charged later downgraded to public nuisance. : : : : Louis Manzo can’t keep away from criminals. Several spent time in jail, others with him are still under investigation. : : : : confused over his manhood. Classic closet case like Healy above won’t admit their problems. : : : : I guess I’ll vote for the guy with the RV, at least he says what his problems are upfront. : : : : : : : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** The hell with it, I'll just vote for Kerry. posted Message 9378 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 12:08:47 Subject: Re: Guy with the RV has a criminal record : And you will soon hear about Lipski's criminal activities relating to this campaign. and read the JJ endorsement of Lou manzo, see what the JJ has to say about Lipski. : : : : Well ... if you discount Manzo because of his association with someone with a record, then how could you vote for Lipsky who HAS a Criminal Record?!?!? At least Mccann paid his debt to society. And Manzo is a good man who cares for this city. : : : : L. Harvey Smith went against his own people to help the HCDO’s attempt to take down our late beloved Mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham. : : : : : : : : allegedly known for making early am visits to girlfriend, when not beating wife. : : : : J. Healy doesn’t know if he is running to, or from the bar. For the record it is said, that the only bar he passed was when he took the “Bar exam”. On several different occasions had problems keeping his pants on. : : : : also allegedly known on occasion in Bradley Beach to beat his wife, charged later downgraded to public nuisance. : : : : Louis Manzo can’t keep away from criminals. Several spent time in jail, others with him are still under investigation. : : : : confused over his manhood. Classic closet case like Healy above won’t admit their problems. : : : : I guess I’ll vote for the guy with the RV, at least he says what his problems are upfront. : : : : : : : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anti Jizz posted Message 9379 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 12:32:04 Subject: Re: Guy with the RV has a criminal record It was 22 years ago you moron! Drop dead you Manzo jizz swallower : Forget Lipski's criminal activity related to this campaign...I'm talking about his charge and arrest from 15 years ago. I have his booking photo ;) He looks like a deer in the headlights... : : And you will soon hear about Lipski's criminal activities relating to this campaign. and read the JJ endorsement of Lou manzo, see what the JJ has to say about Lipski. : : : : : : Well ... if you discount Manzo because of his association with someone with a record, then how could you vote for Lipsky who HAS a Criminal Record?!?!? At least Mccann paid his debt to society. And Manzo is a good man who cares for this city. : : : : : L. Harvey Smith went against his own people to help the HCDO’s attempt to take down our late beloved Mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham. : : : : : : : : : : allegedly known for making early am visits to girlfriend, when not beating wife. : : : : : J. Healy doesn’t know if he is running to, or from the bar. For the record it is said, that the only bar he passed was when he took the “Bar exam”. On several different occasions had problems keeping his pants on. : : : : : also allegedly known on occasion in Bradley Beach to beat his wife, charged later downgraded to public nuisance. : : : : : Louis Manzo can’t keep away from criminals. Several spent time in jail, others with him are still under investigation. : : : : : confused over his manhood. Classic closet case like Healy above won’t admit their problems. : : : : : I guess I’ll vote for the guy with the RV, at least he says what his problems are upfront. : : : : : : : : : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9380 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 12:33:51 Subject: Lipski and Supporter Threatened According to Report From the 10/28/04 Police Report: At 1549hrs the u/s responded to 5218 Summit Ave on a call of terroristic threats. Upon arrival the u/s spoke to the victim who stated that the actor Russell Salacare came into Steve Lipski's campaign head quarters and started yelling profanities and stated that he was going to kill him. When the victim went to close the door the actor told him to be careful because he would be the next one. The victim was advised to court. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A Lot of Bull - There is no 5218 Summit Ave! posted Message 9381 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 12:52:57 Subject: Re: Lipski and Supporter Threatened According to Report Summit ave only runs up to the 1200's. That would be right at the boarder with union city. Sorry dude, you are as lame as the develop-ho you support. : From the 10/28/04 Police Report: : At 1549hrs the u/s responded to 5218 Summit Ave on a call of terroristic threats. Upon arrival the u/s spoke to the victim who stated that the actor Russell Salacare came into Steve Lipski's campaign head quarters and started yelling profanities and stated that he was going to kill him. When the victim went to close the door the actor told him to be careful because he would be the next one. The victim was advised to court. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Observer posted Message 9382 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 13:02:47 Subject: Re: Lipski and Supporter Threatened According to Report Try reading everything before you post and attempt to show your intelligence. That is what i says in the police report. He quoted the report, which has a typo. Duh! : Summit ave only runs up to the 1200's. That would be right at the boarder with union city. : Sorry dude, you are as lame as the develop-ho you support. : : : From the 10/28/04 Police Report: : : At 1549hrs the u/s responded to 5218 Summit Ave on a call of terroristic threats. Upon arrival the u/s spoke to the victim who stated that the actor Russell Salacare came into Steve Lipski's campaign head quarters and started yelling profanities and stated that he was going to kill him. When the victim went to close the door the actor told him to be careful because he would be the next one. The victim was advised to court. ***************** End Of Article ****************** 'That is what i says..' posted Message 9383 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 13:12:44 Subject: Intelligent? Did Lipski the developer-ho teach you how to write? : Try reading everything before you post and attempt to show your intelligence. That is what i says in the police report. He quoted the report, which has a typo. Duh! : : Summit ave only runs up to the 1200's. That would be right at the boarder with union city. : : Sorry dude, you are as lame as the develop-ho you support. : : : : : From the 10/28/04 Police Report: : : : At 1549hrs the u/s responded to 5218 Summit Ave on a call of terroristic threats. Upon arrival the u/s spoke to the victim who stated that the actor Russell Salacare came into Steve Lipski's campaign head quarters and started yelling profanities and stated that he was going to kill him. When the victim went to close the door the actor told him to be careful because he would be the next one. The victim was advised to court. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9384 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 13:31:27 Subject: The quote is from the police report. Yes, the quote is -- word for word -- from the police report. The original appears to be a typo. : Try reading everything before you post and attempt to show your intelligence. That is what i says in the police report. He quoted the report, which has a typo. Duh! : : Summit ave only runs up to the 1200's. That would be right at the boarder with union city. : : Sorry dude, you are as lame as the develop-ho you support. : : : : : From the 10/28/04 Police Report: : : : At 1549hrs the u/s responded to 5218 Summit Ave on a call of terroristic threats. Upon arrival the u/s spoke to the victim who stated that the actor Russell Salacare came into Steve Lipski's campaign head quarters and started yelling profanities and stated that he was going to kill him. When the victim went to close the door the actor told him to be careful because he would be the next one. The victim was advised to court. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9385 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 13:41:06 Subject: Here's an image of the police report. Here's an image of the police report. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don't See The Point posted Message 9386 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 13:45:03 Subject: Re: The quote is from the police report. If this guy threathened Lipski what does it have to do with the campaign? Doesn't sound like its tied to any of the other candidates. Maybe the guy heard about the $28 million Lipski gave to one of his developer/contributors and he's mad becasue his tax bill keeps going up? : Yes, the quote is -- word for word -- from the police report. The original appears to be a typo. : : Try reading everything before you post and attempt to show your intelligence. That is what i says in the police report. He quoted the report, which has a typo. Duh! : : : Summit ave only runs up to the 1200's. That would be right at the boarder with union city. : : : Sorry dude, you are as lame as the develop-ho you support. : : : : : : : From the 10/28/04 Police Report: : : : : At 1549hrs the u/s responded to 5218 Summit Ave on a call of terroristic threats. Upon arrival the u/s spoke to the victim who stated that the actor Russell Salacare came into Steve Lipski's campaign head quarters and started yelling profanities and stated that he was going to kill him. When the victim went to close the door the actor told him to be careful because he would be the next one. The victim was advised to court. ***************** End Of Article ****************** PROVE IT posted Message 9387 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 14:30:40 Subject: Re: Healy also arrested in Bradley Beach PROVE IT, show us the article you lazy, lowlife! If you can all pass around that picture, why can't you come up with a police report?? Even Anthony can do that! : On the same charges.call the Asbury Park Press ***************** End Of Article ****************** $$ posted Message 9388 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 14:37:27 Subject: Mattress money Everybunny thinx we're broke...the joke's on them! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Old Geezer's Pal posted Message 9389 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 15:15:36 Subject: So...an old conviction is a non-conviction? Listen here you Lipski ASS_Licker..... Your BOY Lipski is a pervert. I remember when he had his tail thrown in jail. He's a pervert and you have no idea about the other things he's been accused of doing. But then... you seem pretty brain dead. You seem to like throwing around Mccann's conviction....but Lipski's JAIL RECORD is not ok to talk about? Go Blow yourself. : It was 22 years ago you moron! Drop dead you Manzo jizz swallower : : : Forget Lipski's criminal activity related to this campaign...I'm talking about his charge and arrest from 15 years ago. I have his booking photo ;) He looks like a deer in the headlights... : : : And you will soon hear about Lipski's criminal activities relating to this campaign. and read the JJ endorsement of Lou manzo, see what the JJ has to say about Lipski. : : : : : : : : Well ... if you discount Manzo because of his association with someone with a record, then how could you vote for Lipsky who HAS a Criminal Record?!?!? At least Mccann paid his debt to society. And Manzo is a good man who cares for this city. : : : : : : L. Harvey Smith went against his own people to help the HCDO’s attempt to take down our late beloved Mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham. : : : : : : : : : : : : allegedly known for making early am visits to girlfriend, when not beating wife. : : : : : : J. Healy doesn’t know if he is running to, or from the bar. For the record it is said, that the only bar he passed was when he took the “Bar exam”. On several different occasions had problems keeping his pants on. : : : : : : also allegedly known on occasion in Bradley Beach to beat his wife, charged later downgraded to public nuisance. : : : : : : Louis Manzo can’t keep away from criminals. Several spent time in jail, others with him are still under investigation. : : : : : : confused over his manhood. Classic closet case like Healy above won’t admit their problems. : : : : : : I guess I’ll vote for the guy with the RV, at least he says what his problems are upfront. : : : : : : : : : : : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** It Happened, since Healy Imploded No Point in Bringing It Up posted Message 9390 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 15:19:54 Subject: Prove It? But it happened. Ask any of the regulars who frequent his BB saloon. : PROVE IT, show us the article you lazy, lowlife! If you can all pass around that picture, why can't you come up with a police report?? Even Anthony can do that! : : On the same charges.call the Asbury Park Press ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey is no rabbit posted Message 9391 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 15:47:45 Subject: Ward F belongs to him You will all see. Even you Boss Menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Warden posted Message 9392 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 15:48:54 Subject: We're waitng for you Gerry and Lou Lou Manzo and Gerry Mc Cann are coming to Hudson County prison. Welcome back Gerry! ***************** End Of Article ****************** They Can put Tom Disguist Company Behind Bars posted Message 9393 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 15:59:45 Subject: Yes, When Lou and Jerry come Back : Lou Manzo and Gerry Mc Cann are coming to Hudson County prison. Welcome back Gerry! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Mayor Man - For 4 More Days posted Message 9394 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 16:03:15 Subject: More Like A Chipmunk : You will all see. Even you Boss Menendez. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sorry Harvey Smith posted Message 9395 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 16:05:28 Subject: The plain facts are that you too dumb to be Mayor Stick close to Porky Pig Menendez for your next Goodies. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Porkey Will Help Him Out posted Message 9396 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 16:19:32 Subject: Re: The plain facts are that you too dumb to be Mayor His girl friend kay can use some domestic help. : Stick close to Porky Pig Menendez for your next Goodies. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ontou posted Message 9397 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 18:16:46 Subject: Re: We're waitng for you Gerry and Lou : Lou Manzo and Gerry Mc Cann are coming to Hudson County prison. Welcome back Gerry! ::Dixon woes mount. Warden orders more comic books and sterno in anticipation of his arrival. Promises Jimmy will not be homeless this time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JERSEYCITYS ALLEYCAT posted Message 9398 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 20:02:46 Subject: y dont ppl understand that manzo has a convict's workin for him and he's their lil playtoy in bed that loves it when they ram it up his ass ladies and gentlemen this is a special report (gentlemen watch out manzo is lookin for a guy to make him feel warm and cozzy) if u saw today's news on channel 4 manzo hired someone to mess Steve Lipski over, well it looks like that didn't work "EVEN THOUGH WE KNO THE MAN THAT HIRED IS A SEX OFFENDER AND RAMED IT TO HARD UP MANZO'S ASS THATS Y HE BEEN CHARGED FOR SEX OFFENSE" and i think that manzo is on the same page as curious george and i been readin the jersey journal this week POOR JIMMY KING his house has been hit, thats what u get for messin with manzo FUKER'S lol i crack myself up... ohhh yeah as for MCANN well we all should know by now that u want Manzo to be Mayor so like that u can steal more fuKin money from us tax payers u fuKin ass RAMmEr i bet ur screwin LOU as im writing this ooohhhh well fuc the MANZO TEAM those's fucin CONVICTED BASTARDS well all i kno i dont want him as mayor of this town, i dont care if JERSEY CITY VOTE FOR THERE MAMA (no offense to anyone) but not LOU MANZO he's a dam CON-ARTIST SO PEOPLE OF JERSEY CITY IF U HAVE READ THIS DON'T VOTE FOR LOUIS "FLINSTONE,GOOD FOR NOTHIN" MANZO NOW YOU PEOPLE COULD GO ON WITH YOUR REGULAR LIFE'S IF U DON'T VOTE FoR FUKIN MANZO ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Doctor posted Message 9399 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 20:31:56 Subject: Go take a pill Run out of Prozak? Get a new scrip. : ladies and gentlemen this is a special report (gentlemen watch out manzo is lookin for a guy to make him feel warm and cozzy) if u saw today's news on channel 4 manzo hired someone to mess Steve Lipski over, well it looks like that didn't work "EVEN THOUGH WE KNO THE MAN THAT HIRED IS A SEX OFFENDER AND RAMED IT TO HARD UP MANZO'S ASS THATS Y HE BEEN CHARGED FOR SEX OFFENSE" and i think that manzo is on the same page as curious george and i been readin the jersey journal this week POOR JIMMY KING his house has been hit, thats what u get for messin with manzo FUKER'S lol i crack myself up... ohhh yeah as for MCANN well we all should know by now that u want Manzo to be Mayor so like that u can steal more fuKin money from us tax payers u fuKin ass RAMmEr i bet ur screwin LOU as im writing this ooohhhh well fuc the MANZO TEAM those's fucin CONVICTED BASTARDS well all i kno i dont want him as mayor of this town, i dont care if JERSEY CITY VOTE FOR THERE MAMA (no offense to anyone) but not LOU MANZO he's a dam CON-ARTIST SO PEOPLE OF JERSEY CITY IF U HAVE READ THIS DON'T VOTE FOR LOUIS "FLINSTONE,GOOD FOR NOTHIN" MANZO : NOW YOU PEOPLE COULD GO ON WITH YOUR REGULAR LIFE'S : IF U DON'T VOTE FoR FUKIN MANZO ***************** End Of Article ****************** I agree, but was that English you were trying to write? posted Message 9400 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 20:55:30 Subject: Re: y dont ppl understand that manzo has a convict's workin for him and he's their lil playtoy in bed that loves it when they ram it up his ass : ladies and gentlemen this is a special report (gentlemen watch out manzo is lookin for a guy to make him feel warm and cozzy) if u saw today's news on channel 4 manzo hired someone to mess Steve Lipski over, well it looks like that didn't work "EVEN THOUGH WE KNO THE MAN THAT HIRED IS A SEX OFFENDER AND RAMED IT TO HARD UP MANZO'S ASS THATS Y HE BEEN CHARGED FOR SEX OFFENSE" and i think that manzo is on the same page as curious george and i been readin the jersey journal this week POOR JIMMY KING his house has been hit, thats what u get for messin with manzo FUKER'S lol i crack myself up... ohhh yeah as for MCANN well we all should know by now that u want Manzo to be Mayor so like that u can steal more fuKin money from us tax payers u fuKin ass RAMmEr i bet ur screwin LOU as im writing this ooohhhh well fuc the MANZO TEAM those's fucin CONVICTED BASTARDS well all i kno i dont want him as mayor of this town, i dont care if JERSEY CITY VOTE FOR THERE MAMA (no offense to anyone) but not LOU MANZO he's a dam CON-ARTIST SO PEOPLE OF JERSEY CITY IF U HAVE READ THIS DON'T VOTE FOR LOUIS "FLINSTONE,GOOD FOR NOTHIN" MANZO : NOW YOU PEOPLE COULD GO ON WITH YOUR REGULAR LIFE'S : IF U DON'T VOTE FoR FUKIN MANZO ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 9401 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 21:29:51 Subject: Re: Where have the Healy Homophobes Gone? : Geepers, its been about a day now since the Healy homophobes last posted their old favorite 'Manzo is a Homo'. : I miss seeing their hatred for minorities, women and gay people seep from their posts. : Well, its been enjoyable, but I guess the homophobes has packed their tents and moved permanently to Bradley Beach. : Bye bye gang, and by the way, don't show up at city hall and beg Mayor Manzo for a job, if you need that go to see Tony A$$mobile or Buddy Boy, these two have plenty of cash to pass around. you lowlife s c u m b a g your father is a q u e e r ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lower than Low posted Message 9402 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 21:31:35 Subject: Anthony ....... This Post is Highly Offensive : : ladies and gentlemen this is a special report (gentlemen watch out manzo is lookin for a guy to make him feel warm and cozzy) if u saw today's news on channel 4 manzo hired someone to mess Steve Lipski over, well it looks like that didn't work "EVEN THOUGH WE KNO THE MAN THAT HIRED IS A SEX OFFENDER AND RAMED IT TO HARD UP MANZO'S ASS THATS Y HE BEEN CHARGED FOR SEX OFFENSE" and i think that manzo is on the same page as curious george and i been readin the jersey journal this week POOR JIMMY KING his house has been hit, thats what u get for messin with manzo FUKER'S lol i crack myself up... ohhh yeah as for MCANN well we all should know by now that u want Manzo to be Mayor so like that u can steal more fuKin money from us tax payers u fuKin ass RAMmEr i bet ur screwin LOU as im writing this ooohhhh well fuc the MANZO TEAM those's fucin CONVICTED BASTARDS well all i kno i dont want him as mayor of this town, i dont care if JERSEY CITY VOTE FOR THERE MAMA (no offense to anyone) but not LOU MANZO he's a dam CON-ARTIST SO PEOPLE OF JERSEY CITY IF U HAVE READ THIS DON'T VOTE FOR LOUIS "FLINSTONE,GOOD FOR NOTHIN" MANZO : : NOW YOU PEOPLE COULD GO ON WITH YOUR REGULAR LIFE'S : : IF U DON'T VOTE FoR FUKIN MANZO ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 9403 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 21:39:06 Subject: Re: What a crew to choose from! : L. Harvey Smith went against his own people to help the HCDO’s attempt to take down our late beloved Mayor, Glenn D. Cunningham. : : allegedly known for making early am visits to girlfriend, when not beating wife. : J. Healy doesn’t know if he is running to, or from the bar. For the record it is said, that the only bar he passed was when he took the “Bar exam”. On several different occasions had problems keeping his pants on. : also allegedly known on occasion in Bradley Beach to beat his wife, charged later downgraded to public nuisance. : Louis Manzo can’t keep away from criminals. Several spent time in jail, others with him are still under investigation. : confused over his manhood. Classic closet case like Healy above won’t admit their problems. : I guess I’ll vote for the guy with the RV, at least he says what his problems are upfront. : : i guess a guy who stole a car when he was 19 years old is good to vote for ***************** End Of Article ****************** lipski wife posted Message 9404 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 22:06:32 Subject: Re: y dont ppl understand that manzo has a convict's workin for him and he's their lil playtoy in bed that loves it when they ram it up his ass snatch smells like cat food that has rotted over several months ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Are Disguisting as Ever posted Message 9405 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 22:38:33 Subject: Welcome Back Homobphobes for Healy You low life scum bag, did Tony A$$mobile ask you to post this message, or, are you Tony A$$mobile? Well, get it out of your system because Lou Manzo will be the next Mayor. And , yes, we know who your are......revenge is a dish best served cold! Give my best to Buddy Boy : ladies and gentlemen this is a special report (gentlemen watch out manzo is lookin for a guy to make him feel warm and cozzy) if u saw today's news on channel 4 manzo hired someone to mess Steve Lipski over, well it looks like that didn't work "EVEN THOUGH WE KNO THE MAN THAT HIRED IS A SEX OFFENDER AND RAMED IT TO HARD UP MANZO'S ASS THATS Y HE BEEN CHARGED FOR SEX OFFENSE" and i think that manzo is on the same page as curious george and i been readin the jersey journal this week POOR JIMMY KING his house has been hit, thats what u get for messin with manzo FUKER'S lol i crack myself up... ohhh yeah as for MCANN well we all should know by now that u want Manzo to be Mayor so like that u can steal more fuKin money from us tax payers u fuKin ass RAMmEr i bet ur screwin LOU as im writing this ooohhhh well fuc the MANZO TEAM those's fucin CONVICTED BASTARDS well all i kno i dont want him as mayor of this town, i dont care if JERSEY CITY VOTE FOR THERE MAMA (no offense to anyone) but not LOU MANZO he's a dam CON-ARTIST SO PEOPLE OF JERSEY CITY IF U HAVE READ THIS DON'T VOTE FOR LOUIS "FLINSTONE,GOOD FOR NOTHIN" MANZO : NOW YOU PEOPLE COULD GO ON WITH YOUR REGULAR LIFE'S : IF U DON'T VOTE FoR FUKIN MANZO ***************** End Of Article ****************** But he can still kick your sorry ass! Well get you after 11/2 ! posted Message 9406 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 22:42:04 Subject: My father is dead : : Geepers, its been about a day now since the Healy homophobes last posted their old favorite 'Manzo is a Homo'. : : I miss seeing their hatred for minorities, women and gay people seep from their posts. : : Well, its been enjoyable, but I guess the homophobes has packed their tents and moved permanently to Bradley Beach. : : Bye bye gang, and by the way, don't show up at city hall and beg Mayor Manzo for a job, if you need that go to see Tony A$$mobile or Buddy Boy, these two have plenty of cash to pass around. : you lowlife s c u m b a g your father is a q u e e r ***************** End Of Article ****************** Showing As Poor Judgement as their Candidate posted Message 9407 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 22:49:54 Subject: Posts From the Healy Camp There are three things that are in every healy from a healy fan; 1. the word HOMO ( they can't spell homosexual) 2. Some other explicative like Bastard, Scu mBag, Fuc_king ,etc etc oh! yes lets not forget 3. Jerry McCann ( the guy all the healy guys in the closet are secretly in love with). How much money is Tony A$$mobile paying you to stay online and report back to him ? Its time to start your Jerry Healy for Mayor campaign in Bradley Beach, Bye Bye ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stevens Tech and Hudson County Comm. Colleege posted Message 9408 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 29, 2004 at 23:57:38 Subject: Jersey City Mayor's Poll 6 Wards 750 Phone Numbers s Numbers only register voters,150 republicans Poll from 10/26 to10/29 450 democrats 200 undeclaere 100 republicans Healy-20% Smith 20% Manzo 19% Lipski 7% Flood 2.5 % Nunez 2% Others 1.2 % or less Margin of error 3 - 4% ***************** End Of Article ****************** ARTHUR MORRISON posted Message 9409 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 00:02:36 Subject: JERSEY JOURNAL ENDORSEMENT.IS KISS OF DEATH! Well i have to say that the JERSEY JOUNALS endorsement of louis manzo. was expected due to the fact he spent more money on political ads than all the candidates put together. the only problem is that the JERSEY JOURNAL has a bad record picking winners in the past, and to most candidates it is usually the kiss of death to a campaign, so i guess the other candidsates are celebrating the endorsement today.especially JERRY HEALY who is the lead runner in all the polls this week.with mr manzo about 7 points behind and harvey right behind him it certainly is looking good for MR HEALY on election day with a lot of city and county workers manning the polls and getting out the voters. good luck guys!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 9410 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 00:12:13 Subject: Flipski on the WNBC Channel 4 Evening News Got a call to flip on the news this evening. And there on NBC Channel 4 was Flipski trying to explain why the authorities were taking him in for questioning. It seems that Flipksi had employed a convicted felon as a campaign worker and this "gentleman" was now claiming that Flipski ordered him to rough up Lou Manzo. You just can't make this stuff up. I'm still looking for the video so I can post it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9411 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 03:42:15 Subject: If anyone has audio or video relating to the campaigns, don't hesitate to send a copy to GET NJ. I seem to have Friday's NBC coverage of the Jersey City race. I'll post the clip probably today. Then, each can judge for themselves the significance of the incidents. In general, if anyone has audio or video relating to the campaigns, don't hesitate to send a copy to GET NJ. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9412 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 04:04:08 Subject: New York Times: In 11-Way Race in Jersey City, Even the Gutter Goes Downhill Among the leading contenders in the race for mayor of Jersey City are, clockwise from upper left, acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith, Isaiah Gadsden, Willie Flood, Louis M. Manzo, Steve Lipski and Jerramiah Healy. In 11-Way Race in Jersey City, Even the Gutter Goes Downhill New York Times By DAMIEN CAVE Published: October 30, 2004 JERSEY CITY - One mayoral candidate is getting advice from a former mayor who went to prison for bank fraud. Another has spent the campaign living in a recreational vehicle that he parks in different locations at night to avoid being pelted with eggs. A third has suffered the embarrassment of seeing photographs of himself, naked and slumped over his porch after too many drinks, posted on the Internet. . . . For the complete article, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9413 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 04:07:16 Subject: Bergen Record: Legislator eyed for the top job at Ramapo Legislator eyed for the top job at Ramapo Bergen Record Saturday, October 30, 2004 By CHARLES STILE TRENTON BUREAU Veteran Hudson County lawmaker Joseph V. Doria is a candidate to become the next president of the Ramapo College of New Jersey, according to several government sources. The candidacy also has the backing of outgoing Governor McGreevey, who has steadily filled the college's Board of Trustees with his own appointees over the past year. The 11-member board, which launched a search last March for a new president, is expected to narrow the field to six finalists next month. Doria, a state senator who is running to keep his seat in a special election Tuesday, could not be reached for comment. But Joseph Waks, his chief of staff, confirmed that Doria's name had been forwarded to the board, though he said he did not know who submitted it. He said Doria, who is also the mayor of Bayonne, did not apply for the post. . . . For the complete article, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Debra Cuseglio, Teresa DeLeon, Sonia Hernandez-Schulman, Lee S. Lichtenberger posted Message 9414 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 05:57:28 Subject: Bush for President, Manzo for Mayor Dear fellow Republican, This letter is to ask you to support Assemblyman Lou Manzo for Mayor this November. Why should Republicans support Lou Manzo? Because he is the only local candidate who hasn't voted to raise property taxes, in fact Lou is in Trenton fighting to lower local taxes. Low taxes are a Republican value. Lou Manzo is the only local candidate who had three Republicans on his last ticket (2001) and has pledged to run Republicans again. Inclusion is a core value for President Bush. If you are tired of double talking politicians who say one thing on taxes and then do the other then vote for Lou Manzo. Elected to the state Assembly on an anti-organization ticket, Lou is leading the fight to clean-up not only Jersey City but all New Jersey. The Democratic Machine led by Harvey Smith, Jerry Healy and rest of the City Council have left Jersey City a legacy of debt, out of control spending, high taxes, and filthy streets. They are filled with potholes not asphalt! We don't have to put up with this! Lou Manzo is leading in the polls because there are more people who want Jersey City to once again become a place to live, work, shop, and raise a family, than there are people controlled by the machine politicians. We Republicans can do our part in turning Jersey City around. A recent Jersey Journal Poll shows President Bush ahead in Hudson County, good news for the country, bad news for the county Democratic machine! So please vote for change. Re-elect President Bush, support the County Republican ticket and then cast your vote for Assemblyman Lou Manzo for mayor. An independent voice for your city and you. President Bush and Assemblyman Manzo are perfect together for Jersey City. Thank You for your consideration of my request. Sincerely, Debra Cuseglio County Vice-Chairwoman Teresa DeLeon 2004 Bush Delegate Sonia Hernandez-Schulman City Vice-Chairman Lee S. Lichtenberger Republican State Committeman ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bill Connelly posted Message 9415 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 06:37:43 Subject: Re: Bush for President, Manzo for Mayor : Dear fellow Republican, Lou Manzo should be supported by republicans since the Manzo family's corruption helped to finish off the dNew Jersey STate Democratic Party. RAM Insurance CO. is the cornerstone of New Jersey Corruption the way we remember it pervasive. Why is louie sio involved and loved in Trenton? Can you spell Federal Cooperating witness? His brother will be testifying and bringing in Roberts, Norcross and possibly McGreedy himself. Damned right they'll take care of Little Lou or his brother might sing louder!!! Thanks Lou ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Cramwell posted Message 9416 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 07:03:41 Subject: Re: Joe??? : Hey Joe.. too bad you aint a real person. The name is Jon, Jon Cram well. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Cramwell posted Message 9417 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 07:06:38 Subject: Re: HEALY RALLY PACKED TO THE HILT. MANZO AT A STAND STILL The smell was the stench from Healy wizzing in pants. Drunkin lout that he is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9418 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 07:41:45 Subject: Online Video: October 29th: NBC TV covers the Jersey City Mayoral Race. A Place for Everyone in Hudson County Politics? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bradley Beach Also posted Message 9419 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 08:46:42 Subject: Mccann said Jersey City was bad but Bradley Beach also Healy has a problem and he must address it.Even Porky Pig Menendez And Kenny have run away frim Him.Only DeGise And gaughan are left to pick up the pieces. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie Flood And Harvey Smith posted Message 9420 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 09:02:29 Subject: You both must be kidding I dint think even Ward F is even dumb enough to vote for either of you two.Vote for Steve lipski.He is onall sides of a issue. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Poll Watcher posted Message 9421 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 09:29:37 Subject: A Useless Poll With 3 candidates within 1% of each other...and the poll having an margin of error of 3-4%...this poll is useless. : Poll from 10/26 to10/29 : 450 democrats : 200 undeclaere : 100 republicans : Healy-20% : Smith 20% : Manzo 19% : Lipski 7% : Flood 2.5 % : Nunez 2% : Others 1.2 % or less : Margin of error 3 - 4% : ***************** End Of Article ****************** HATE AMABILE - HE'S A VILE SC UMBAG posted Message 9422 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 09:32:49 Subject: Re: Posts From the Healy Camp There are two reasons to vote for Manzo.... Healy hired Tony Amabile...a vile piece of sh it...and McCann's old hatchet man Buttman Demellier. They are two of the lowest pieces of scuz to slither through the streets of Jersey City. : There are three things that are in every healy from a healy fan; : 1. the word HOMO ( they can't spell homosexual) : 2. Some other explicative like Bastard, Scu mBag, Fuc_king ,etc etc : oh! yes lets not forget : 3. Jerry McCann ( the guy all the healy guys in the closet are secretly in love with). : How much money is Tony A$$mobile paying you to stay online and report back to him ? : Its time to start your Jerry Healy for Mayor campaign in Bradley Beach, Bye Bye ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** City Workers posted Message 9423 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 09:42:21 Subject: Come over to Manzo You dont have to be afraid of Harvey Smith anymore.Come over too Manzo.Smith is history except for the Menendez goodies he is going to get for being a good little boy for Porky Pig.Mayor Manzo welcomes you all.City workers are coming over left and right. ***************** End Of Article ****************** They Should be quarantined by the Health Dept. posted Message 9424 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 09:50:19 Subject: Buddy and Tony Both of them are a pox on the city. i hope they leave and never come back. : There are two reasons to vote for Manzo.... Healy hired Tony Amabile...a vile piece of sh it...and McCann's old hatchet man Buttman Demellier. They are two of the lowest pieces of scuz to slither through the streets of Jersey City. : : There are three things that are in every healy from a healy fan; : : 1. the word HOMO ( they can't spell homosexual) : : 2. Some other explicative like Bastard, Scu mBag, Fuc_king ,etc etc : : oh! yes lets not forget : : 3. Jerry McCann ( the guy all the healy guys in the closet are secretly in love with). : : How much money is Tony A$$mobile paying you to stay online and report back to him ? : : Its time to start your Jerry Healy for Mayor campaign in Bradley Beach, Bye Bye ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bush Over Porky Pig Menendez posted Message 9425 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 09:52:22 Subject: Save the USA Our Country safety over Party Bosses. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MANZO AND HEALY HAVE FAVORITES posted Message 9426 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 09:53:36 Subject: Breeders Cup Today Healy is going with BARE NECESSITIES in the first race. Manzo is betting on REQUEST FOR PAROLE in the 7th race and ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 9427 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 12:34:57 Subject: Re: Bush for President, Manzo for Mayor/Bad choices stop begging : Dear fellow Republican, : This letter is to ask you to support Assemblyman Lou Manzo for Mayor this November. Why should Republicans support Lou Manzo? Because he is the only local candidate who hasn't voted to raise property taxes, in fact Lou is in Trenton fighting to lower local taxes. Low taxes are a Republican value. Lou Manzo is the only local candidate who had three Republicans on his last ticket (2001) and has pledged to run Republicans again. Inclusion is a core value for President Bush. : If you are tired of double talking politicians who say one thing on taxes and then do the other then vote for Lou Manzo. Elected to the state Assembly on an anti-organization ticket, Lou is leading the fight to clean-up not only Jersey City but all New Jersey. The Democratic Machine led by Harvey Smith, Jerry Healy and rest of the City Council have left Jersey City a legacy of debt, out of control spending, high taxes, and filthy streets. They are filled with potholes not asphalt! : We don't have to put up with this! : Lou Manzo is leading in the polls because there are more people who want Jersey City to once again become a place to live, work, shop, and raise a family, than there are people controlled by the machine politicians. We Republicans can do our part in turning Jersey City around. A recent Jersey Journal Poll shows President Bush ahead in Hudson County, good news for the country, bad news for the county Democratic machine! : So please vote for change. Re-elect President Bush, support the County Republican ticket and then cast your vote for Assemblyman Lou Manzo for mayor. An independent voice for your city and you. President Bush and Assemblyman Manzo are perfect together for Jersey City. : Thank You for your consideration of my request. : Sincerely, : Debra Cuseglio : County Vice-Chairwoman : Teresa DeLeon : 2004 Bush Delegate : Sonia Hernandez-Schulman : City Vice-Chairman : Lee S. Lichtenberger : Republican State Committeman He is a sore loser and a thief dont vote for him.You all should stop begging.Is manzo having you do that to. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 9427 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 12:34:57 Subject: Re: Bush for President, Manzo for Mayor/Bad choices stop begging : Dear fellow Republican, : This letter is to ask you to support Assemblyman Lou Manzo for Mayor this November. Why should Republicans support Lou Manzo? Because he is the only local candidate who hasn't voted to raise property taxes, in fact Lou is in Trenton fighting to lower local taxes. Low taxes are a Republican value. Lou Manzo is the only local candidate who had three Republicans on his last ticket (2001) and has pledged to run Republicans again. Inclusion is a core value for President Bush. : If you are tired of double talking politicians who say one thing on taxes and then do the other then vote for Lou Manzo. Elected to the state Assembly on an anti-organization ticket, Lou is leading the fight to clean-up not only Jersey City but all New Jersey. The Democratic Machine led by Harvey Smith, Jerry Healy and rest of the City Council have left Jersey City a legacy of debt, out of control spending, high taxes, and filthy streets. They are filled with potholes not asphalt! : We don't have to put up with this! : Lou Manzo is leading in the polls because there are more people who want Jersey City to once again become a place to live, work, shop, and raise a family, than there are people controlled by the machine politicians. We Republicans can do our part in turning Jersey City around. A recent Jersey Journal Poll shows President Bush ahead in Hudson County, good news for the country, bad news for the county Democratic machine! : So please vote for change. Re-elect President Bush, support the County Republican ticket and then cast your vote for Assemblyman Lou Manzo for mayor. An independent voice for your city and you. President Bush and Assemblyman Manzo are perfect together for Jersey City. : Thank You for your consideration of my request. : Sincerely, : Debra Cuseglio : County Vice-Chairwoman : Teresa DeLeon : 2004 Bush Delegate : Sonia Hernandez-Schulman : City Vice-Chairman : Lee S. Lichtenberger : Republican State Committeman He is a sore loser and a thief dont vote for him.You all should stop begging.Is manzo having you do that to. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 9428 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 12:43:26 Subject: Re: Posts From the Healy Camp/you need to stop putting words in peoples mouths. : There are two reasons to vote for Manzo.... Healy hired Tony Amabile...a vile piece of sh it...and McCann's old hatchet man Buttman Demellier. They are two of the lowest pieces of scuz to slither through the streets of Jersey City. : : There are three things that are in every healy from a healy fan; : : 1. the word HOMO ( they can't spell homosexual) You need to get real thats why mccann is with the fruit cake manzo.I would think mccann was out of manzos age range considering he likes little boys.I guess you are manzos a$$wipe.It doesnt suprise me that you scoop to that level isnt that what all his help is doing now a days. You are a joke. : : 2. Some other explicative like Bastard, Scu mBag, Fuc_king ,etc etc : : oh! yes lets not forget : : 3. Jerry McCann ( the guy all the healy guys in the closet are secretly in love with). : : How much money is Tony A$$mobile paying you to stay online and report back to him ? : : Its time to start your Jerry Healy for Mayor campaign in Bradley Beach, Bye Bye ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** JERSEYCITY'S ALLEYCAT posted Message 9429 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 13:38:43 Subject: Re: Flipski on the WNBC Channel 4 Evening News for the person that wrote this your a Manzo groupie, I bet you got rammed up the ass too i kno u love his fukin d*ck but dam thats all you got ***************** End Of Article ****************** More Info posted Message 9430 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 14:08:16 Subject: Re: Manzo's Mafia You're dead on. There's more about his thugs at http://www.manzo4jerseycity.com. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Surprising posted Message 9431 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 14:10:28 Subject: Re: JERSEY JOURNAL ENDORSEMENT.IS KISS OF DEATH! Odd that they'd endorse Manzo after some of the articles they've written involving him. I know a couple are available at http://www.manzo4jerseycity.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** connelly is healey;s brother-in-law posted Message 9432 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 14:22:32 Subject: Re: Bush for President, Manzo for Mayor : : Dear fellow Republican, : Lou Manzo should be supported by republicans since the Manzo family's corruption helped to finish off the dNew Jersey STate Democratic Party. RAM Insurance CO. is the cornerstone of New Jersey Corruption the way we remember it pervasive. : Why is louie sio involved and loved in Trenton? Can you spell Federal Cooperating witness? His brother will be testifying and bringing in Roberts, Norcross and possibly McGreedy himself. : Damned right they'll take care of Little Lou or his brother might sing louder!!! : : Thanks Lou ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9433 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 14:36:20 Subject: Phone number on Page of Anti-Manzo Web Site An Anti-Manzo, Anti-McCann Web Site -- www.manzo4jerseycity.com -- is out and about. GET NJ is NOT INVOLVED WITH IT! No ID appears with the Site's registration. A phone number is hand-written on this document that seems to be 201-795-1790. That is the fax number for the Oakland Avenue Healy For Mayor Hq. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sonia Hernandez-Schulman ( I am so sorry Glenn) posted Message 9434 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 15:02:12 Subject: Re: Bush for President, Manzo for Mayor : Dear fellow Republicans, : This letter is to ask you not to support Assemblyman Lou Manzo for Mayor this November, he screw Glenn and he will screw you too. Why should Republicans support Lou Manzo? Because he is the only local candidate who has voted to raise property taxes, in fact Lou is in Trenton fighting to raise local taxes. Low taxes are a Republican value. Lou Manzo is the only local candidate who had three Republicans on his lost ticket (2001) and has pledged to run losing Republicans again. Inclusion is a core value for President Bush. : If you are not tired of double talking politicians who say one thing on taxes and then do the other then vote for Lou Manzo. Elected to the state Assembly on an organization ticket, Lou is not leading the fight to clean-up Jersey City. The Democratic Machine led by Harvey Smith, Jerry Healy and rest of the City Council have gotten Jersey City out of a legacy of debt, out of control spending, high taxes, and filthy streets. They are no longer potholes. : Lou Manzo is leading in the polls of corruption, because there are more of that type of people in Jersey City. We Republicans can do our part in not turning Jersey City around. A recent Jersey Journal Poll shows President Bush ahead in Hudson County, good news for the country, bad news for the county Democratic machine! : So please vote for change. Re-elect President Bush, support the County Republican ticket and then do not cast your vote for Lou Manzo for mayor. An anti-independent voice for your city. President Bush is perfect for Jersey City, Lou Manzo is not. : Thank You for your consideration of our request. : Sincerely, : Debra Cuseglio : County Vice-Chairwoman : Teresa DeLeon : 2004 Bush Delegate : Sonia Hernandez-Schulman : City Vice-Chairman : Lee S. Lichtenberger : Republican State Committeman ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Message Board posted Message 9435 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 16:53:03 Subject: Fleas and Dogs The old adage applies to the Manzo's Campaign, "you sleep with dogs you get up with fleas." Manzo's cavalcade of convicted felons and future felons is classic indicator as to how he proposes to run J.C. Jerry Mc Kann, Ronald Manzo and Danny Mc Mann are the people I refer to. The latter has been arrested a number of times for Possession of CDS and Lou has intervened with police funstion to save his butt. He has been fired by J.C. at least two times and Lou has lobbied rehire him with the city inspite of his total incompetence. Word is that Barbar Mc Kann's sister Barbara is Manzo's chief of staff at his Ass-embly office. She is the highest paid in the state.The lions shre of his Ass-embly budget goes to pay her salary. That is his way of paying Jerry. Jerry is also a paid consultant for Manzo. Lou city voters are not stupid as your actions suggest. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gaughan,McGreevey,Healy,Kerry posted Message 9436 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 17:06:58 Subject: There is a moral problem with these guys And its more then just Drinking to a exess. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JOEDOR posted Message 9437 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 17:50:29 Subject: DORIA USING BHS STUIDENTS I read in the New York Post page 19 to be exact where Joe Doria had Bayonne High school students handing out literature for school credits, isn't this highly illegal. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 9438 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 18:53:14 Subject: Anti-Manzo Web Site not working The anti-Manzo Site isn't working just now. - - - : An Anti-Manzo, Anti-McCann Web Site -- www.manzo4jerseycity.com -- is out and about. GET NJ is NOT INVOLVED WITH IT! : No ID appears with the Site's registration. : A phone number is hand-written on this document that seems to be 201-795-1790. That is the fax number for the Oakland Avenue Healy For Mayor Hq. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Cramwell posted Message 9439 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 19:40:44 Subject: Re: Bush for President, Manzo for Mayor Hey Bill, shouldn't you be a little bit more forthcoming? You're Healy's brother in law! I read the full piece in the Jersey and I must tell you I thought you had a bit more ability to put together a shameless smear piece, gutless piece of sh!t that you are. Next time find a single theme, (not fifteen), and build around that. Until then drink yourself silly on Tuesday night with your alcoholic brother in law and bang your head against the wall after Manzo wins. Oh, and your sister's mailer was as sh!tty as yours. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JOEDOR posted Message 9440 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 19:43:11 Subject: Re: Bush for President, Manzo for Mayor As a Republican I don't understand,Ms.Cusiglio you stated that your endorsing Lou Manzo for Mayor because he's the only canidate that won't raise taxes(that's a good endorsement,agreed),but as a Bayonne resident then why would Vincent Cusiglio (any relation) of the Republican party endorse Joe Doria whose raised taxes 54% as reported in the Jersey Journal on Thursday.As a Republican taxes are one of our biggest issues. ***************** End Of Article ****************** YES, THEY LIKE TO SPEND TAXPAYERS MONEY ON THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY posted Message 9441 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 20:47:58 Subject: Re: There is a moral problem with these guys NOTHING BETTER THAN TO SPEND TAXPAYERS MONEY ON YOUR FAVORITE CONSULTANTS AND FAMILY MEMEBERS. : And its more then just Drinking to a exess. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 9442 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 21:37:12 Subject: Manzo Endorses Kerry Ads and literature on the street have Manzo backing John Kerry. How do you phony baloney Republicans deal with that ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 9443 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 21:39:05 Subject: Ha ha !!! Because Republicans in Hudson County are a bunch of craven phonies. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 9444 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 21:42:20 Subject: Save the USA From a moronic incompetent who led us into an unnecessary war !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 9445 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 21:48:55 Subject: Good job Anthony !!! Just watched the WNBC news story on Lipski/Delgado through your link. Had a very good laugh. As they say in the video, you can't make this stuff up !! :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 9446 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 22:00:48 Subject: There is a moral problem with these guys : Arango, Lichtenberger, Schundler, Bush These guys would sell their own mother to get ahead. Then they get up on their pulpits and spout self-righteous, self-serving bull$hit. Morals indeed. All following a man who misled this country into war. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sonia Hernandez-Schulman posted Message 9447 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 22:06:28 Subject: wE TAKE EVERYTHING BACK : Dear fellow Republican, : This letter is to ask you to support Assemblyman Lou Manzo for Mayor this November. Why should Republicans support Lou Manzo? Because he is the only local candidate who hasn't voted to raise property taxes, in fact Lou is in Trenton fighting to lower local taxes. Low taxes are a Republican value. Lou Manzo is the only local candidate who had three Republicans on his last ticket (2001) and has pledged to run Republicans again. Inclusion is a core value for President Bush. : If you are tired of double talking politicians who say one thing on taxes and then do the other then vote for Lou Manzo. Elected to the state Assembly on an anti-organization ticket, Lou is leading the fight to clean-up not only Jersey City but all New Jersey. The Democratic Machine led by Harvey Smith, Jerry Healy and rest of the City Council have left Jersey City a legacy of debt, out of control spending, high taxes, and filthy streets. They are filled with potholes not asphalt! : We don't have to put up with this! : Lou Manzo is leading in the polls because there are more people who want Jersey City to once again become a place to live, work, shop, and raise a family, than there are people controlled by the machine politicians. We Republicans can do our part in turning Jersey City around. A recent Jersey Journal Poll shows President Bush ahead in Hudson County, good news for the country, bad news for the county Democratic machine! : So please vote for change. Re-elect President Bush, support the County Republican ticket and then cast your vote for Assemblyman Lou Manzo for mayor. An independent voice for your city and you. President Bush and Assemblyman Manzo are perfect together for Jersey City. : Thank You for your consideration of my request. : Sincerely, : Debra Cuseglio : County Vice-Chairwoman : Teresa DeLeon : 2004 Bush Delegate : Sonia Hernandez-Schulman : City Vice-Chairman : Lee S. Lichtenberger : Republican State Committeman ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 9448 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 23:23:44 Subject: Re: wE TAKE EVERYTHING BACK : : Dear fellow Republican, : : This letter is to ask you to support Assemblyman Lou Manzo for Mayor this November. Why should Republicans support Lou Manzo? Because he is the only local candidate who hasn't voted to raise property taxes, in fact Lou is in Trenton fighting to lower local taxes. Low taxes are a Republican value. Lou Manzo is the only local candidate who had three Republicans on his last ticket (2001) and has pledged to run Republicans again. Inclusion is a core value for President Bush. : : If you are tired of double talking politicians who say one thing on taxes and then do the other then vote for Lou Manzo. Elected to the state Assembly on an anti-organization ticket, Lou is leading the fight to clean-up not only Jersey City but all New Jersey. The Democratic Machine led by Harvey Smith, Jerry Healy and rest of the City Council have left Jersey City a legacy of debt, out of control spending, high taxes, and filthy streets. They are filled with potholes not asphalt! : : We don't have to put up with this! : : Lou Manzo is leading in the polls because there are more people who want Jersey City to once again become a place to live, work, shop, and raise a family, than there are people controlled by the machine politicians. We Republicans can do our part in turning Jersey City around. A recent Jersey Journal Poll shows President Bush ahead in Hudson County, good news for the country, bad news for the county Democratic machine! : : So please vote for change. Re-elect President Bush, support the County Republican ticket and then cast your vote for Assemblyman Lou Manzo for mayor. An independent voice for your city and you. President Bush and Assemblyman Manzo are perfect together for Jersey City. : : Thank You for your consideration of my request. : : Sincerely, : : Debra Cuseglio : : County Vice-Chairwoman : : Teresa DeLeon : : 2004 Bush Delegate : : Sonia Hernandez-Schulman : : City Vice-Chairman : : Lee S. Lichtenberger : : Republican State Committeman sonia hernandez are you a transexual who is realy sonny hernandez you must be f u c k i n g manzo in the a s s you q u e e r get a life ***************** End Of Article ****************** john posted Message 9449 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 23:26:27 Subject: Re: Where have the Healy Homophobes Gone? : Geepers, its been about a day now since the Healy homophobes last posted their old favorite 'Manzo is a Homo'. : I miss seeing their hatred for minorities, women and gay people seep from their posts. : Well, its been enjoyable, but I guess the homophobes has packed their tents and moved permanently to Bradley Beach. : Bye bye gang, and by the way, don't show up at city hall and beg Mayor Manzo for a job, if you need that go to see Tony A$$mobile or Buddy Boy, these two have plenty of cash to pass around. all of us the homos were at your mothers house having some fun with her ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bill posted Message 9450 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 23:34:51 Subject: Re: Breeders Cup Today : Healy is going with BARE NECESSITIES in the first race. : Manzo is betting on REQUEST FOR PAROLE in the 7th race and ***************** End Of Article ****************** WIld AAAAWIllie posted Message 9451 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 23:41:02 Subject: Re: Breeders Cup Today : : Healy is going with BARE NECESSITIES in the first race. : : Manzo is betting on REQUEST FOR PAROLE in the 7th race and I met several people in JC today who told me that they were voting for healy since if MCCANN's best dirty work is finding/fabricating pictures on Healy he's obviously the candidate with nothing to hide!!!My ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wils Williaaa posted Message 9452 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 30, 2004 at 23:45:44 Subject: Re: Come over to Manzo : You dont have to be afraid of Harvey Smith anymore.Come over too Manzo.Smith is history except for the Menendez goodies he is going to get for being a good little boy for Porky Pig.Mayor Manzo welcomes you all.City workers are coming over left and right. You have got to be kidding, Manzo is just as vishwish as McCann. Danny McManhon will be in charge of "social activities! Menendez has been with Odea and ***************** End Of Article ****************** GOP pick up House Senate seats posted Message 9801 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 08:53:43 Subject: America will be safer and Stronger But Hudson County will still be corrupt and cunning. ***************** End Of Article ****************** HCDO welcomes Blacks back in posted Message 9802 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 09:44:04 Subject: Give them a couple of bones Then the herd will vote the party Line.They will never learn. ***************** End Of Article ****************** D Morgan posted Message 9803 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 09:49:52 Subject: Ward F is a joke Why throw money down a hole. All they do is cry about not having enough money meanwhile they couldn't produce and pretented to work. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Corzine fails Dem Party posted Message 9804 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 09:55:24 Subject: Dems lose senate seats How long will it take Porky Pig Menendez to turn on him? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Long Memory posted Message 9805 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 09:58:58 Subject: Advise to the Healy Team Reading posts from people like Ricco and others, its obvious there are people out there who want revenge on the opponsition. Just remember folks, we (the Healy Team) are only in office until Spring, and then we have to win again. So be smart, no gloating, no alienating people, no grudges. Let's just do Good Government and everyone will be with us next time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** King Louie posted Message 9806 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 10:05:53 Subject: Hey Louie With all the money you spend trying to become mayor over the years, you could have bought a small island in the South Pacific and made yourself king! It would have been cheaper! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thank you for saying that. My faith is slightly renewed to know that someone does have that kind of integrity. Thank you again. posted Message 9807 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 10:15:14 Subject: Re: Advise to the Healy Team : Reading posts from people like Ricco and others, its obvious there are people out there who want revenge on the opponsition. Just remember folks, we (the Healy Team) are only in office until Spring, and then we have to win again. So be smart, no gloating, no alienating people, no grudges. Let's just do Good Government and everyone will be with us next time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blacks will never get the Mayoral seat back posted Message 9808 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 10:34:14 Subject: Thanks for your support HCDO Take us for granted. We love it in ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** made the difference! posted Message 9809 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 11:03:48 Subject: Republicans for Healy Over the top! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 9810 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 11:19:22 Subject: Congrats Mr. Healy You won fair and square. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not all of the votes were counted posted Message 9811 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 12:12:25 Subject: Election results in Question Votes not counted 7,000 + Absentee 6,000 + Provisionals 5,000 + Undervotes Election could be overturned ***************** End Of Article ****************** heightster posted Message 9812 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 12:19:18 Subject: Waiting How long will we have to wait before these votes are counted? ***************** End Of Article ****************** As long as there aren't any chads, probably by this time next week. posted Message 9813 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 12:34:56 Subject: Re: Waiting : How long will we have to wait before these votes are counted? ***************** End Of Article ****************** thanks gerry posted Message 9814 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 12:37:41 Subject: Re: Congrats Mr. Healy : You won fair and square. ::The good people of Jersey City owe a debt of gratitude to gerry mccann for giving them the opportunity to demonstrate that a sleazy bum like him cannot steal an election. he doesen't understand even today that jersey city is not his playpen or his toilet and that there is no place for him among decent people. a bum with nothing to lose and no character, a coward. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JUstice For All posted Message 9815 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 12:42:43 Subject: Re: Advise to the Healy Team : Reading posts from people like Ricco and others, its obvious there are people out there who want revenge on the opponsition. Just remember folks, we (the Healy Team) are only in office until Spring, and then we have to win again. So be smart, no gloating, no alienating people, no grudges. Let's just do Good Government and everyone will be with us next time. Anyone even questioning the bloodletting that would have occurred under McCann happening under the guidance of Mr. Healy is mistaken. He is one of the mosyt honest and fair people you will ever meet Good luck and God Bless Mr. Healy (and you to MAureen) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Frankie K posted Message 9816 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 12:43:51 Subject: Anybody have results for Ward E district 7 Ward E district 7 ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 9817 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 12:45:36 Subject: Manzo in Ward B and E in ward D and C? what happned to manzo's presence? we knew manzo would win B as he lived there but looks like manzo won downtown. i didn;t even see that fool in downtown jc- How the hell did that happen? ***************** End Of Article ****************** how true posted Message 9818 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 12:50:17 Subject: Re: Congrats Mr. Healy : : You won fair and square. : ::The good people of Jersey City owe a debt of gratitude to gerry mccann for giving them the opportunity to demonstrate that a sleazy bum like him cannot steal an election. he doesen't understand even today that jersey city is not his playpen or his toilet and that there is no place for him among decent people. a bum with nothing to lose and no character, a coward. :::::Manzo was told but has no mind of his own. McCann lost him the election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** junior junior junior posted Message 9819 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 12:53:11 Subject: Re: Manzo in Ward B and E Yeah Junior Malda"nada" couldn't even deliver his own ward. What kind of value for that guy : in ward D and C? what happned to manzo's presence? we knew manzo would win B as he lived there but looks like manzo won downtown. i didn;t even see that fool in downtown jc- How the hell did that happen? ***************** End Of Article ****************** sleep well, Lou posted Message 9820 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 12:58:30 Subject: Re: Congrats Mr. Healy : : : You won fair and square. : : : ::The good people of Jersey City owe a debt of gratitude to gerry mccann for giving them the opportunity to demonstrate that a sleazy bum like him cannot steal an election. he doesen't understand even today that jersey city is not his playpen or his toilet and that there is no place for him among decent people. a bum with nothing to lose and no character, a coward. : : :::::Manzo was told but has no mind of his own. McCann lost him the election. :::::Think aboout this the rest of your life, Lou. Today you would be mayor of Jersey City if it weren't for Gerald Mc Cann. You were told. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LISA posted Message 9821 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 13:06:59 Subject: HARD WORKERS MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED SO HARD DAY & NIGHT FOR MANZO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Down with Manzo posted Message 9822 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 13:08:59 Subject: Re: HARD WORKERS : MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED SO HARD DAY & NIGHT FOR MANZO. Especially all you "night" workers for all the dirty things you did! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Message Board posted Message 9823 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 13:38:53 Subject: Cardwell and Jackson @ Healy Victory Party Joseph Cardwell and Bobby Jackson were at Healy's victory party kissing up to the victor. They were probably there to convince Healy's camp that they purposely ran Willie Flood to ensure Healy's election. When their true intentions were to syphon votes away from Smith for Lou Manzo and Gerry Mc Klan. These two Uncle Toms would stoop to any level for money and greed. The Healy camp is well aware of these two past connections with Mc Klan and Manzo. Healy supporters please don't be fooled by the duplicitous action of these has beens. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Message Board posted Message 9824 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 13:45:54 Subject: Manzo workers beware Joseph Castagna, Joe Frank, Harry"Chuck"Carol, Billy Rudolfos, Richie Freda, Bobby Wilson, Jeff Dublin, Carol Pascual, Larry Eccleston, Steve Miller and Kevin Lyons, you chose to align yourselves with Gerry Mc Klan and his ilk. You will pay the consequences and reap the whirl wind for your actions. You were part of the dirty politics that was visited on Jersey City. You had a moral choice not to support this type of political behavior. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Message Board posted Message 9825 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 13:58:23 Subject: Directors to stay as per Healy camp Word is that Health Department Director Sergio Lamboy will likely stay on. He is an honest administrator and will not fold like a cheap camera. He pursued the Danny Mc Mann matter although it was not to his advantage. He went against an Assemblyman's and a former Deputy Mayor's wishes to hide this matter. If he has any faults it is that he is loyal and sticks with a person win, lose or draw. He would certainly benefit any administration with his honesty and integrity. He was drummed off the ballot for the Board of Education because he would not condone the former administration's bidding to make a certain person chairperson of the Board Education. He opted instead to vote for who he felt was the most qualified individual. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don't be afraid. posted Message 9826 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 13:58:27 Subject: Don't get nervous. The African American community will be represented. Congratulations Judge! : Joseph Cardwell and Bobby Jackson were at Healy's victory party kissing up to the victor. They were probably there to convince Healy's camp that they purposely ran Willie Flood to ensure Healy's election. When their true intentions were to syphon votes away from Smith for Lou Manzo and Gerry Mc Klan. These two Uncle Toms would stoop to any level for money and greed. The Healy camp is well aware of these two past connections with Mc Klan and Manzo. Healy supporters please don't be fooled by the duplicitous action of these has beens. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Laughing at you. posted Message 9827 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 14:01:36 Subject: Pack your boxes and leave the keys Uncle Harvey. You DONE!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don't Go There posted Message 9828 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 14:02:55 Subject: Sending a Bad Message Don't forget the saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". I trust that Jerry Healy is smarter than to build his own opposition for the May election by firing a bunch of people in retribution for their support of Manzo, or Smith, or anyone else. Its the people who employ dirty politics that should be thrown in the trash bin. But no one should pay the price for supporting a candidate of their choice. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. That's democracy. Its messy...but it works. : Joseph Castagna, Joe Frank, Harry"Chuck"Carol, Billy Rudolfos, Richie Freda, Bobby Wilson, Jeff Dublin, Carol Pascual, Larry Eccleston, Steve Miller and Kevin Lyons, you chose to align yourselves with Gerry Mc Klan and his ilk. You will pay the consequences and reap the whirl wind for your actions. You were part of the dirty politics that was visited on Jersey City. You had a moral choice not to support this type of political behavior. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Message Board posted Message 9829 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 14:29:55 Subject: Health Officer Beware Joseph Castagna was the orchestrator of the Danny Mc Mann debacle he opted to look the other way rather than do the right thing. He allowed McMann to have essentially a no show job where he got over $50,000 per year and did nothing. The $105,000 in penaltiues and fees imposed on the city were Joe Castagna fault. He opted to do Lou Manzo's bidding and not exercise his job as a supervisor. He should have written McMann up but instead pushed it off on Director Lamboy who did the right thing. Director Lamboy is a man that when the chips are down you can be sure he would act with alacrity and honesty ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stop trying to start MORE trouble. posted Message 9830 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 14:31:41 Subject: They were invited by Mr. Healy. : Joseph Cardwell and Bobby Jackson were at Healy's victory party kissing up to the victor. They were probably there to convince Healy's camp that they purposely ran Willie Flood to ensure Healy's election. When their true intentions were to syphon votes away from Smith for Lou Manzo and Gerry Mc Klan. These two Uncle Toms would stoop to any level for money and greed. The Healy camp is well aware of these two past connections with Mc Klan and Manzo. Healy supporters please don't be fooled by the duplicitous action of these has beens. ***************** End Of Article ****************** right posted Message 9831 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 14:35:06 Subject: Re: HARD WORKERS : MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED SO HARD DAY & NIGHT FOR MANZO. ::::Will they turn in their box cutters, getaway cars, burglar tools, hoods ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 9832 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 14:54:50 Subject: Lamboy is a HO He'll bend which ever way the wind blows. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 9833 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 14:57:42 Subject: Steve Miller ? Ha !!! What a worthless piece of $hit that guy is. He'll be in City government forever. He'll kiss any a$$ no matter how big or slimy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stop the Threats posted Message 9834 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 15:02:29 Subject: Cut the Bull You should stop trying to scare people. Jerry Healy is not Gerry McCann. He is not going to set out to end careers and fire a bunch of people. If your goal is to create an opposition to Healy....keep up the stupid baseless threats. But anyone who really knows Jerry Healy...would never believe posts like the last one you wrote. : Joseph Castagna was the orchestrator of the Danny Mc Mann debacle he opted to look the other way rather than do the right thing. He allowed McMann to have essentially a no show job where he got over $50,000 per year and did nothing. The $105,000 in penaltiues and fees imposed on the city were Joe Castagna fault. He opted to do Lou Manzo's bidding and not exercise his job as a supervisor. He should have written McMann up but instead pushed it off on Director Lamboy who did the right thing. Director Lamboy is a man that when the chips are down you can be sure he would act with alacrity and honesty ***************** End Of Article ****************** seen it posted Message 9835 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 15:02:50 Subject: dixon Dixon was drunk at polling place early am. Stole time from work and parades around polling place drunk. why doesen't anyone make him stay away? ***************** End Of Article ****************** That's not news posted Message 9836 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 15:07:49 Subject: Re: dixon :::News would be if DICKson was seen sober & working. : Dixon was drunk at polling place early am. Stole time from work and parades around polling place drunk. why doesen't anyone make him stay away? ***************** End Of Article ****************** healy4me posted Message 9837 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 15:46:58 Subject: Manzo Cops What will become of Corry, Sean, Willie P, Dave C ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** timmy johnson posted Message 9838 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 16:15:49 Subject: astor bar Richie Freda was seen leaving his sisters bar last night to go up the block to the astor bar,to late now Richie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 9839 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 16:26:54 Subject: Re: astor bar :::What were you afraid he would take your barstool? : Richie Freda was seen leaving his sisters bar last night to go up the block to the astor bar,to late now Richie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CIRRO posted Message 9840 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 16:28:29 Subject: Re: SEAN CORRONS : I HOPE LOU BOUGHT YOU A NEW PAIR OF SHOES BECAUSE I CANT WAIT TO SHINE THEM FOR YOU IF YOU THINK I AM WORTHY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CIRRO posted Message 9841 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 16:29:07 Subject: Re: DIRT BAG BILLY R FROM SOUTH ST : HE PROBABLY IS OVERDOSING ON COKE RIGHT ABOUT NOW DAMN I HOPE HE REMEMBERS TO SAVE ME SOME. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CIRRO posted Message 9842 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 16:29:54 Subject: Re: PETE BARRON :::I GOTTA GIVE YOU THIS ONE. : I AM GETTING YOUR JOB BACK TO SWEEPING THE STREETS AGAIN PETE I GUESS LOU CANT HELP YOU NOW A$$HOLE YOUR DONE ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gottsta To Be There posted Message 9843 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 17:01:54 Subject: Re: Cut the Bull : You should stop trying to scare people. Jerry Healy is not Gerry McCann. He is not going to set out to end careers and fire a bunch of people. If your goal is to create an opposition to Healy....keep up the stupid baseless threats. But anyone who really knows Jerry Healy...would never believe posts like the last one you wrote. : : Joseph Castagna was the orchestrator of the Danny Mc Mann debacle he opted to look the other way rather than do the right thing. He allowed McMann to have essentially a no show job where he got over $50,000 per year and did nothing. The $105,000 in penaltiues and fees imposed on the city were Joe Castagna fault. He opted to do Lou Manzo's bidding and not exercise his job as a supervisor. He should have written McMann up but instead pushed it off on Director Lamboy who did the right thing. Director Lamboy is a man that when the chips are down you can be sure he would act with alacrity and honesty He will not fire someone who was on the other side, but people will have to work, do thier jobs and not run into "hotels" when someon e starts evaluating thier performance. Iwunderstand that Sergio was concerned as louie louie was threatening everyone and anyone who messed with danny ***************** End Of Article ****************** B ward posted Message 9844 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 17:08:02 Subject: Re: Manzo in Ward B and E : Yeah Junior Malda"nada" couldn't even deliver his own ward. What kind of value for that guy : : : in ward D and C? what happned to manzo's presence? we knew manzo would win B as he lived there but looks like manzo won downtown. i didn;t even see that fool in downtown jc- How the hell did that happen? Louie was expecting a 2 to 1 ratio which would have narrowed the diffwerence I thinkl there was a three hundred vote difference which was an embarrasment for the leadership/strength O'D provides and the fact that Assembly district is throughout. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No Arguement Here posted Message 9845 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 19:17:00 Subject: Re: Cut the Bull Well...maybe people will have to do their jobs for a while. That's not a bad thing...lol ;) He will not fire someone who was on the other side, but people will have to work, do their jobs and not run into "hotels" when someone starts evaluating their performance. I understand that Sergio was concerned as louie was threatening everyone and anyone who messed with danny : : You should stop trying to scare people. Jerry Healy is not Gerry McCann. He is not going to set out to end careers and fire a bunch of people. If your goal is to create an opposition to Healy....keep up the stupid baseless threats. But anyone who really knows Jerry Healy...would never believe posts like the last one you wrote. : : : Joseph Castagna was the orchestrator of the Danny Mc Mann debacle he opted to look the other way rather than do the right thing. He allowed McMann to have essentially a no show job where he got over $50,000 per year and did nothing. The $105,000 in penaltiues and fees imposed on the city were Joe Castagna fault. He opted to do Lou Manzo's bidding and not exercise his job as a supervisor. He should have written McMann up but instead pushed it off on Director Lamboy who did the right thing. Director Lamboy is a man that when the chips are down you can be sure he would act with alacrity and honesty ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward E...Healy came in first, Cruz spent 7 days a week for 3 months campaigning for Smith and Healy came in first lmao! posted Message 9846 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 19:26:22 Subject: Re: Manzo in Ward B and E Ward E...Healy came in first, Cruz spent 7 days a week for 3 months campaigning for Smith and Healy came in first lmao! ***************** End Of Article ****************** abagail posted Message 9847 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 19:57:51 Subject: Re: astor bar : :::What were you afraid he would take your barstool? : : Richie Freda was seen leaving his sisters bar last night to go up the block to the astor bar,to late now Richie. richie wasn't in the astor bar last night you must have been drunk and seeing things. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Missing 18 Districts Have Not Counted Absentees posted Message 9848 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 20:32:34 Subject: Healy Not Mayor - NBC 6 O Clock News Healy Is Not The Mayor Yet -- Thousands of VOtes have not been counted !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** john posted Message 9849 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 22:10:44 Subject: manzo just face it you are a 4 time loser go home wipe the tears away and thank gerry MCcann for your lost he is an a$$hole ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo again for Mayor posted Message 9850 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 22:55:27 Subject: www.manzoformayor.com www.manzoformayor.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Over Ten Thousand Votes Not Yet Counted posted Message 9851 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 22:56:03 Subject: Jersey City Mayoral Election In Doubt - Associated Press Reports HEALY ELECTION NOT CONFRIMED !!!! JERSEY CITY, N.J. (AP) — Jerramiah Healy was leading in a special election for mayor of Jersey City on Wednesday, but election officials said about 10 percent of the vote could not be tallied because the ballots had yet to be turned in. Hudson County Clerk Javier Inclan, who certifies elections, said he was waiting for 18 cartridges containing digital ballot information from machines in 18 polling places throughout the city. Inclan said the election would not be certified until Monday at the earliest. In past elections, Inclan said, cartridges have been late arriving because poll workers had mistakenly taken them home or locked them inside machines. Inclan said it would require a judge's order to unlock any machines containing cartridges. The missing cartridges added another snag to what one former mayor called a "wild and woolly" race among 11 candidates to fill the unexpired term of former Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, who died of heart attack in May. One highlight of the race was a photograph posted on the Internet of Healy passed out naked on his front stoop. Inclan's latest tally was of 166 of the city's 184 precincts, or 90.22 percent of the total, before he closed his office at about midnight Tuesday. "I was ready to work overnight," Inclan said Wednesday afternoon. "I think an election as important as this is worth it, but some people decided to go home at 11 o'clock last night." At latest count, Healy led with 15,554 votes, or 28.4 percent. Assemblyman Louis M. Manzo trailed Healy by 2,685 votes, with 23.71 percent. Council President and Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith was third, with 21.82 percent, and Willie Flood, a former councilwoman, was fourth, with 14.23 percent. Inclan said the figures do not include a handful of paper ballots from two precincts with so few voters that machines are not used there. Healy, 53, claimed victory Tuesday night. Inclan said safeguards against tampering with the cartridges included duplicate data stored on voting machine hard drives. Besides the ballots on the cartridges, some of the city's 5,500 absentee ballots also remained uncounted Wednesday, said Robert Garrison, a commissioner on the county Board of Elections. Inclan said he would not certify a winner until all votes were counted. He said there were 4,000 provisional ballots that would have to be counted, an unusually large number he attributed to new registrants who, for example, may have shown up to vote in the wrong polling places. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy is clueless posted Message 9852 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 23:05:27 Subject: Buddy MIA Word is - in fighting within the Healy camp. Buddy Demellier is MIA and fed up. Healy, who is cluesless, has not even spoken to Bud since 8:30pm election night. Losers within the Healy camp want Carl C (C for Captain Clueless) to be Chief of Staff and Bobby T as Police Chief. LMAO Does the preppy Carl know he lost all his 5 districts in Ward E? Everyone else is in stitches. Even Osmand Hadley thinks he is now a player which makes it all the more funnier. You can't make this stuff up... more to come. It's only a metter of time before Healy self destructs. PS: Party this weekend at Barry's! Bring your Camera phones! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stop the spin HEALY MAYOR 94 posted Message 9853 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 23:52:13 Subject: Re: Jersey City Mayoral Election In Doubt - Associated Press Reports : HEALY ELECTION NOT CONFRIMED !!!! : JERSEY CITY, N.J. (AP) — Jerramiah Healy was leading in a special election for mayor of Jersey City on Wednesday, but election officials said about 10 percent of the vote could not be tallied because the ballots had yet to be turned in. : : Hudson County Clerk Javier Inclan, who certifies elections, said he was waiting for 18 cartridges containing digital ballot information from machines in 18 polling places throughout the city. : Inclan said the election would not be certified until Monday at the earliest. : In past elections, Inclan said, cartridges have been late arriving because poll workers had mistakenly taken them home or locked them inside machines. Inclan said it would require a judge's order to unlock any machines containing cartridges. : The missing cartridges added another snag to what one former mayor called a "wild and woolly" race among 11 candidates to fill the unexpired term of former Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, who died of heart attack in May. One highlight of the race was a photograph posted on the Internet of Healy passed out naked on his front stoop. : Inclan's latest tally was of 166 of the city's 184 precincts, or 90.22 percent of the total, before he closed his office at about midnight Tuesday. : "I was ready to work overnight," Inclan said Wednesday afternoon. "I think an election as important as this is worth it, but some people decided to go home at 11 o'clock last night." : At latest count, Healy led with 15,554 votes, or 28.4 percent. Assemblyman Louis M. Manzo trailed Healy by 2,685 votes, with 23.71 percent. Council President and Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith was third, with 21.82 percent, and Willie Flood, a former councilwoman, was fourth, with 14.23 percent. : Inclan said the figures do not include a handful of paper ballots from two precincts with so few voters that machines are not used there. : Healy, 53, claimed victory Tuesday night. : Inclan said safeguards against tampering with the cartridges included duplicate data stored on voting machine hard drives. : Besides the ballots on the cartridges, some of the city's 5,500 absentee ballots also remained uncounted Wednesday, said Robert Garrison, a commissioner on the county Board of Elections. : Inclan said he would not certify a winner until all votes were counted. He said there were 4,000 provisional ballots that would have to be counted, an unusually large number he attributed to new registrants who, for example, may have shown up to vote in the wrong polling places. AP. MANZO WITH BOYFRIEND I'M A GAY LOOSER THANKS TO GERRY MY PART TIME MAN MCKLAN.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo for Mayor of SAN FRANCISCO posted Message 9854 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 03, 2004 at 23:53:36 Subject: Re: www.manzoformayor.com : www.manzoformayor.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Maybe honest administrator ??????????????? posted Message 9855 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 00:01:08 Subject: Re: Directors to stay as per Healy camp : Word is that Health Department Director Sergio Lamboy will likely stay on. He is an honest administrator and will not fold like a cheap camera. He pursued the Danny Mc Mann matter although it was not to his advantage. He went against an Assemblyman's and a former Deputy Mayor's wishes to hide this matter. If he has any faults it is that he is loyal and sticks with a person win, lose or draw. He would certainly benefit any administration with his honesty and integrity. He was drummed off the ballot for the Board of Education because he would not condone the former administration's bidding to make a certain person chairperson of the Board Education. He opted instead to vote for who he felt was the most qualified individual. Out of the ballot sold out to Menendez,againts Cunningham ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. Miller and Lamboy strong Manzo's boy's posted Message 9856 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 00:04:33 Subject: Re: Steve Miller ? Ha !!!Ha!!!!!!!!! : What a worthless piece of $hit that guy is. He'll be in City government forever. He'll kiss any a$$ no matter how big or slimy. Mr.Miller andMr Lamboy welcome committee for Manzo ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandy Cunningham posted Message 9857 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 00:10:47 Subject: The Legacy of Glenn with HEALY Sandy was at Healy victory party Willie was on ward F by herself lets keep the legacy ..............Bunnacore,Flood,Healy the legacy .........thank you Sandy no more legacy and no more black leadership good job keep dividing our people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Joe mafia gay Castagna boyfriend Manzo bye bye posted Message 9858 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 00:29:29 Subject: Re: Cut the Bull : You should stop trying to scare people. Jerry Healy is not Gerry McCann. He is not going to set out to end careers and fire a bunch of people. If your goal is to create an opposition to Healy....keep up the stupid baseless threats. But anyone who really knows Jerry Healy...would never believe posts like the last one you wrote. : : Joseph Castagna was the orchestrator of the Danny Mc Mann debacle he opted to look the other way rather than do the right thing. He allowed McMann to have essentially a no show job where he got over $50,000 per year and did nothing. The $105,000 in penaltiues and fees imposed on the city were Joe Castagna fault. He opted to do Lou Manzo's bidding and not exercise his job as a supervisor. He should have written McMann up but instead pushed it off on Director Lamboy who did the right thing. Director Lamboy is a man that when the chips are down you can be sure he would act with alacrity and honesty ***************** End Of Article ****************** MANZO'S DOLLS posted Message 9859 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 00:30:43 Subject: Re: Sending a Bad Message : Don't forget the saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". I trust that Jerry Healy is smarter than to build his own opposition for the May election by firing a bunch of people in retribution for their support of Manzo, or Smith, or anyone else. Its the people who employ dirty politics that should be thrown in the trash bin. But no one should pay the price for supporting a candidate of their choice. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. That's democracy. Its messy...but it works. : : Joseph Castagna, Joe Frank, Harry"Chuck"Carol, Billy Rudolfos, Richie Freda, Bobby Wilson, Jeff Dublin, Carol Pascual, Larry Eccleston, Steve Miller and Kevin Lyons, you chose to align yourselves with Gerry Mc Klan and his ilk. You will pay the consequences and reap the whirl wind for your actions. You were part of the dirty politics that was visited on Jersey City. You had a moral choice not to support this type of political behavior. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Has beens they ran Willie to help Healy and kill ward F posted Message 9860 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 00:33:52 Subject: Re: They were invited by Mr. Healy. : : Joseph Cardwell and Bobby Jackson were at Healy's victory party kissing up to the victor. They were probably there to convince Healy's camp that they purposely ran Willie Flood to ensure Healy's election. When their true intentions were to syphon votes away from Smith for Lou Manzo and Gerry Mc Klan. These two Uncle Toms would stoop to any level for money and greed. The Healy camp is well aware of these two past connections with Mc Klan and Manzo. Healy supporters please don't be fooled by the duplicitous action of these has beens. ***************** End Of Article ****************** lets get it on posted Message 9861 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 03:00:01 Subject: www.hahahealy.com only worse : : www.manzoformayor.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy , tried to rob the election posted Message 9862 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 03:08:53 Subject: Manzo will win when all votes are counted Bobby Jackson and Joe Cardwell made a deal with Healy only to get the Judge into deep trouble with voter fraud. They will turn Buddy in very soon.Worst case , there will be a DO (do over) election for the candidates who are within 4,000 votes of Jerry Healy. Jerry Healy will go down as a person who thought he was the mayor for a week only to get fooled by corrupt campaign managers. It is a shame Jerry Healy was used by the HCDO. If he runs for this next special election and loses Bill O'Dea will step into his spot in May as the HCDO candidate. ***************** End Of Article ****************** How do you spell corruption, Healy posted Message 9863 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 03:17:44 Subject: Manzo only tralis by 1200 with 6 districts missing Manzo may take the lead after all absentee ballots are read. Manzo has at least 2200 of the 2934 ballots handed in. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You will also lose posted Message 9864 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 03:40:44 Subject: Pete Brennan Pete will see a dirty campaign very soon. Wathch your mouth. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 9865 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 05:44:15 Subject: The 18 missing districts? What's the locations of the 18 missing districts? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Rej3ected ballots posted Message 9866 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 06:07:55 Subject: Re: The 18 missing districts? : What's the locations of the 18 missing districts? Not sure, this is where Healy got sceeeeewed last time, deals r cut, throats are laid out. Last time they rejected numerous Healy absentees ballots because there were inappropriate markingsd on the outside of evnvelopes. "signatures don't match", Thier candidate opreratives didn't work that nursing home, scrutinize more closely, etc etc detc, etc. Don't trust the County as they ran on you election day. That's why there were nop workers for you. Although people were'nt fooled by the naked truth, good luck your honor ***************** End Of Article ****************** REVENGE IS OURS posted Message 9867 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 06:16:40 Subject: Re: Pete Brennan : Pete will see a dirty campaign very soon. Wathch your mouth. McCann is already stating that Healy will lose in the unofficial recount and then they will be on top. McCAnn was infamous wfor his election office operations. As with everything else, McCann had run the Hudson COunty Board of ELections with an Iron Fist. Remember how he changed all the workers and had them replaced with policeman, cut the cables in the projects (as N's were too lazy to walk down the stairs). Intimidated minorities etc, etc. Joe Brady (the person who was supposed to enforce the laws) the Supt. of elections said after a 50 year career, he had ternished his reputation, even when working with FrankHaque, I was never forced to do things like this. You've gotstawatch these characters ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fraudulent Absentees posted Message 9868 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 06:20:28 Subject: Re: Manzo only tralis by 1200 with 6 districts missing : Manzo may take the lead after all absentee ballots are read. : Manzo has at least 2200 of the 2934 ballots handed in. I heard that Manzo has all 2934 ballots handed in according to McCann how do you spell morally, ethically corrupt, criminal McCann hold on to your valuables as these people r thieves, and the "street money" which was all Louie's is still fightintg. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blind Morons posted Message 9869 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 06:24:27 Subject: Re: Manzo will win when all votes are counted : Bobby Jackson and Joe Cardwell made a deal with Healy : only to get the Judge into deep trouble with voter fraud. They will turn Buddy in very soon.Worst case , there will be a DO (do over) election for the candidates who are within 4,000 votes of Jerry Healy. Jerry Healy will go down as a person who thought he was the mayor for a week only to get fooled by corrupt campaign managers. It is a shame Jerry Healy was used by the HCDO. If he runs for this next special election and loses Bill O'Dea will step into his spot in May as the HCDO candidate. Although these were actually operatives for McCAnn (Bobby Jackson as we called him was McCAnn's council President was trained by him) Bobby J was the People who ran Willie Floods campaing. Healy accctyually put the least effort in the Absentee, provisional etc. Anybody who wants to bet the $20,000.00 that Louie Didn't claim should set thier money that Healy will lose significantly in the recounts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anthony Russo Civic Association posted Message 9870 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 06:58:56 Subject: Proposed Sale of Hoboken City Property to Raise Revenue City Council Theresa Castellano Michael Russo City of Hoboken 94 Washington Street Hoboken, NJ 07030 October 28, 2004 Honorable David Roberts, Mayor Hoboken City Hall 94 Washington Street Hoboken, NJ 07030 Re: Proposed Sale of City Property to Raise Revenue Dear Mayor Roberts: We write with respect to recent press articles suggesting that, in order to generate revenue to balance the City’s budget, you intend to enter into a sale-leaseback transaction with the Hudson County Improvement Authority (“HCIA”) whereby the HCIA would purchase the Municipal Garage and the Department of Environmental Services building and then lease them back to the City. We further understand that the City would continue to operate the garage and utilize the building, and that, should the HCIA subsequently sell the garage to a third-party, it would be obligated to pay to the City any consideration exceeding the original purchase price and at which point the city would have to purchase land and build a new Municipal Garage. We believe that this proposed course of action is illegal for any of several reasons, as we explain more fully below. As an initial matter, we do not dispute that municipalities may sell property to generate revenue. Our Legislature has provided that “[a] local unit may anticipate as a miscellaneous revenue the total amount of all payments due and payable to the local unit during the fiscal year, directly or indirectly as a result of the sale of property by the local unit, when the obligation to make such payment is entered into prior to the adoption of the budget.” N.J.S.A. 40A:4-27. “Miscellaneous revenue” includes “such amounts as may reasonably be expected to be realized in cash during the fiscal year from…sources reasonably capable of anticipation, and lawfully applicable to the appropriations made in the budget, other than dedicated revenues, revenues from taxes to be levied to support the budget, receipts from delinquent taxes, and surplus.” N.J.S.A. 40A:4-25. In addition to referring to a “sale of property by a local unit,” New Jersey law in at least two separate statutes provides the procedural mechanism governing how municipalities may sell property. N.J.S.A. 40A:12-13 & N.J.S.A. 40A:12-13.4. We do not believe the proposed sale-leaseback transactions cannot and do not satisfy the letter or spirit of these statutes. Hon. David Roberts, Mayor October 28, 2004 Page Two First, the Appellate Division made clear in Newark City Council v. James, 232 N.J. Super. 449 (App. Div.), certif. denied, 117 N.J. 166 (1989), that our Legislature vested the city council – and not the mayor – with the power and discretion to sell municipal assets. Specifically, N.J.S.A. 40A:12-13 provides that “Any … municipality may sell any real property, … not needed for public use, as set forth in the resolution or ordinance authorizing the sale … and, except as otherwise provided by law, all such sales shall be made by one of the following methods[.]” The Appellate Division cited the highlighted provision as confirming the intent to place within the legislative arm of municipal government the decision whether (and, if so, how) to sell municipal property. Second, that same statute provides for the sale of property “not needed for public use,” as does N.J.S.A. 40A:12-13.4 which refers to land that is not then needed for municipal purposes . . . .” As such, even if New Jersey law allowed a City Mayor to sell municipal property (which it does not), such a sale can take place only where the property is no longer needed for a public purpose. According to our understanding, which was presented by Interim Business Administrator, Richard England, at the Public Budget meeting, the City would lease the real property from the HCIA and then operate the garage to generate revenue as well as continue to occupy and use the Municipal Garage Building for the same purpose it is used now. This means that properties would be used in precisely the same fashion they were used prior to the contemplated sale-leaseback transaction. Since operating a parking garage is considered a public use of property under New Jersey law, Camden Plaza Parking v. City of Camden, 16 N.J. 150 (1954), we fail to see how Hoboken’s operating the garage as tenant is different from its operation of the garage as owner. The same would hold true for the Municipal Garage building. Finally, as you well know, the City is not allowed to borrow in order to raise the revenue necessary to fund ordinary municipal operations. For that reason, the statutes cited above all refer to bona fide sales of property. The sale-leaseback transactions under consideration, however, appear to be nothing more that loans prohibited by the Local Budget Law: the City would draw the equity out of the Municipal Garage Building in order to generate the revenue necessary to balance the budget on a “one-off” basis but would lease the real properties for municipal purposes. So understood, these transactions are not sales, but sham loan transactions intended to circumvent the budgetary constraints our Legislature wisely enacted to control spending and mandate fiscal restraint at the local level. Hon. David Roberts, Mayor October 28, 2004 Page Three If you disagree with our understanding of these issues, please inform us as soon as possible. Otherwise, we will ask the Council to take appropriate legal action to prevent the unauthorized pledging of City property as collateral for illegal loans in the manner now being contemplated. The time has come to end the uncontrolled spending and gimmicks, which are mortgaging the future of our City. As Mayor you should have learned by now that it is spending that must be controlled first before any other actions are taken. To sell off the few assets that the City has acquired over the last 100 years to cover over-extended debt budgeting is financial suicide. We look forward to your prompt reply. Sincerely; Theresa Castellano Hoboken City Councilwoman Michael Russo Hoboken City Councilman cc: Richard England – Interim Business Administrator City of Hoboken The Hoboken City Council Lou Roberts – Ernst & Young Metro Park 99Wood Avenue South, Iselin, NJ 08830-0471 Randy Nelson – RMA Ernst & Young Metro Park 99 Wood Avenue South, Iselin, NJ 08830-0471 Marc Pfeiffer – DLGS 101 South Broad Street, Trenton, NJ 08625-0800 Judith Tripodi – DLGS 101South Broad Street, Trenton, NJ 08625-0800 Susan Bass Levin – DCA Commissioner, 101 South Broad Street, Trenton, NJ 08625-0803 Mr. Charles Guhr – Commissioner 205 E. Syracuse Avenue, Wildwood Crest, NJ 08260 Mr. Richard F. Turner - Commissioner 400 Park Avenue, Weehawken, NJ 07087 Ms. Charlotte DeFilippo - Commissioner 65 King Street, Hillside NJ 07205 Mr. Scott R. MacFadden - Commissioner 401 Chambers Bridge Road, Brick NJ 08723 Honorable John H. Ewing - Commissioner P O Box 352, Bedminster, NJ 07921 Mr. James Harkness - Commissioner 50 West State Street Suite 1010 Trenton, NJ 08608-1220 Mr. Ted Light - Commissioner 22 Ocean Lane South Seaside Park, NJ 08752 Patricia Parkin McNamara - Executive Secretary LFB 101South Broad Street, Trenton, NJ 08625-0803 ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 9871 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 07:29:58 Subject: DeGise proves to be a true Leader He took a stand on Healy and stuck with him.That is a sign of a true Leader.Now for Good And decent Government in Jersey City.I believe Jersey City will now turn around for the better.Time will tell.PS-I also think Lou Manzo is a good guy and also would have been a Good Mayor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pray for tom posted Message 9872 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 07:47:09 Subject: Re: DeGise proves to be a true Leader : He took a stand on Healy and stuck with him.That is a sign of a true Leader.Now for Good And decent Government in Jersey City.I believe Jersey City will now turn around for the better.Time will tell.PS-I also think Lou Manzo is a good guy and also would have been a Good Mayor. ::::You have no problem with Manzo's Mc Cannization? God help you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom Gaynor posted Message 9873 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 07:51:56 Subject: Jed "'Jedsey Journal"DiMatteo for Healys Seat on Council What a super choice that would be for Jersey City.Just thinking out loud. ***************** End Of Article ****************** TV Spotting posted Message 9874 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 08:35:31 Subject: Saw Tom Gaynor with Bret Schundler on TV From Red Bank tuesday night. I guess the race for Governor has begun. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9875 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 08:35:36 Subject: Jersey Journal: Manzo refuses to concede mayoral race before all ballots are HOLD ON, HEALY Manzo refuses to concede mayoral race before all ballots are tallied Jersey Journal Thursday, November 04, 2004 By Bonnie Friedman Louis Manzo is still fighting for votes - and there may be enough out there to put him over the top. Less than 24 hours after the leading vote-getter, City Councilman Jerramiah Healy, declared victory in the Jersey City mayoral race, Manzo, a state assemblyman, is nowhere close to conceding. Instead, he is calling for the rest of the ballots to be counted. . . . For the complete piece, please see the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Air Head loses big time posted Message 9876 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 09:10:41 Subject: And she doesnt even know it Harvey Smith would have been Mayor.Ward F would have had hundreds of jobs.Now nothing. Thanks UTN & Willie Air head Flood. ***************** End Of Article ****************** fflood supporter posted Message 9877 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 09:13:16 Subject: Re: Manzo in Ward B and E : Ward E...Healy came in first, Cruz spent 7 days a week for 3 months campaigning for Smith and Healy came in first lmao! Not true check the numbers with the absentees already counted... Manzo won ward E, won ward B(barely), lost ward C by 300ish votes, Lost Ward D BIG (1800+ votes), and Flood did best in Ward F but Healy somehow squeeked out 900 votes from there ***************** End Of Article ****************** The HCDO controls the voting machines posted Message 9878 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 09:19:11 Subject: Is it any wonder about the vote? With all polls showing him trailing and the lack of money/activity activity by the Healy campaign isn't it interesting that he would out poll the front r unner by almost 5 points? How come the county (HCDO) didn't send out sample ballots and voting place instructions to new voters, many of whom were signed up by Manzo as part of his campaign strategy? With thr Republicans all but conceding HC to Kerry, and no one looking over their backs, could the machines be rigged to register another lets say 5,000 votes for Healy? Would anybody doubt that the HCDO would stoop this low to win an election? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9879 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 09:23:32 Subject: NJN Video: Jersey City Special Election -- Too Close to Call? To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Easy Winner posted Message 9880 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 09:29:13 Subject: One decent Black Runs for Mayor-sure winnerin JC Just like Glenn Cunningham won.Pick a good candidate and ride it to the finish line.HCDO will never support you. So do it yourself.Become free thinkers,Ward F.Porky Pig Menendez will turn his back on you again.So just go out there and do it,Man. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9881 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 10:18:22 Subject: Noticiero 47 Video Online: Jersey City's Hispanic Community Goes to the Polls To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Yogi Bear posted Message 9882 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 10:57:02 Subject: It Ain't Over Till Its Over Let's count all the ballots first before we get drunk at Puccini's. Also, lets double check that nobody from the HCDO added a couple extra votes for Healy BEFORE the voting actually started. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thank you Sandy and Willie posted Message 9883 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 11:03:53 Subject: Re: And she doesnt even know it : Harvey Smith would have been Mayor.Ward F would have had hundreds of jobs.Now nothing. Thanks UTN & Willie Air head Flood. Good job for ward F now after this election the black community acomplish 0 lost jobs lost leadership lost the vision first Sandy endorse Bonocore second endorse Willie divide ward F ,third lets kiss Menendez,Goughan and DeGise becouse the african american dont mean nothing the gold Sandy wants to be in the assembly and Willie a councilwoman for Healy,good bye Viola Richardson loyal to Glenn but Glenns wife is for sale!!!!!!!!!!!!!blacks got nothing Harvey the nice guy abused by everysingle black leader and thedemocrats lets keep voting HCDO after all we love the abuse. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not what I heard posted Message 9884 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 11:11:25 Subject: Re: Manzo in Ward B and E :::Ward A - Healy Ward B - Manzo Ward C - Healy Ward D - Healy Ward E - Smith Ward F - I don't know : : Ward E...Healy came in first, Cruz spent 7 days a week for 3 months campaigning for Smith and Healy came in first lmao! : Not true check the numbers with the absentees already counted... Manzo won ward E, won ward B(barely), lost ward C by 300ish votes, Lost Ward D BIG (1800+ votes), and Flood did best in Ward F but Healy somehow squeeked out 900 votes from there ***************** End Of Article ****************** First Ward F Sellouts to HCDO posted Message 9885 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 11:17:33 Subject: Smith Or Flood orJackson or Cardwell Or all of them.The only losers are the brain dead Ward F voters.They keep voting the Machine line.Over and over and over again. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Will we ever know? posted Message 9886 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 11:20:28 Subject: When will we know? When will we ever know the TRUE Mayor? Will we ever know, when it was acknowledged that poll workers "take the voting machine cartridges home sometimes" Isn't that stolen property? What is wrong here? Somebody belongs in jail! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chief Ballot Counter posted Message 9887 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 11:31:05 Subject: Its Over ! ! ! There were no hanging Chads. No disenfranchisement. No voter supression. Just a level playing field and the will of the people. So if you want to blame someone for Lou's defeat... forget blaming the HCDO, or Tom DeGise. Blame his shutter bug pals. That's the old politics of Hudson County. Lou and Gerry forgot that more than 15,000 new residents moved into town since Gerry went on "vacation". Most of them are young professionals who don't like that kind of politics. : Let's count all the ballots first before we get drunk at Puccini's. : Also, lets double check that nobody from the HCDO added a couple extra votes for Healy BEFORE the voting actually started. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DVDVDV posted Message 9888 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 11:44:59 Subject: Re: Manzo in Ward B and E Was with Javier Inclan yesterday. a HEALY B MANZO C HEALY D HEALY E MANZO YOU CAN GO TO TEH COUNTY AND CHECK IT OUT : : Yeah Junior Malda"nada" couldn't even deliver his own ward. What kind of value for that guy : : : : : in ward D and C? what happned to manzo's presence? we knew manzo would win B as he lived there but looks like manzo won downtown. i didn;t even see that fool in downtown jc- How the hell did that happen? : Louie was expecting a 2 to 1 ratio which would have narrowed the diffwerence I thinkl there was a three hundred vote difference which was an embarrasment for the leadership/strength O'D provides and the fact that Assembly district is throughout. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo ticket for Mayor 2005 posted Message 9889 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 12:10:36 Subject: Putting together a strong ticket Will win in a landslide with the good people he is putting on his ticket.Names will come out soon enough. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 9890 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 12:11:48 Subject: Re: Is it any wonder about the vote?/stop being a aore loser : With all polls showing him trailing and the lack of money/activity activity by the Healy campaign isn't it interesting that he would out poll the front r unner by almost 5 points? : How come the county (HCDO) didn't send out sample ballots and voting place instructions to new voters, many of whom were signed up by Manzo as part of his campaign strategy? : With thr Republicans all but conceding HC to Kerry, and no one looking over their backs, could the machines be rigged to register another lets say 5,000 votes for Healy? : Would anybody doubt that the HCDO would stoop this low to win an election? you are in denial making up excuses again.just deal with it and stop being a sore loser. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 9891 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 12:14:15 Subject: Re: Manzo only tralis by 1200 with 6 districts missing/Where have you been wake up : Manzo may take the lead after all absentee ballots are read. : Manzo has at least 2200 of the 2934 ballots handed in. that would be manzo sore loser ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 9892 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 12:18:06 Subject: What was Tom doing ? Giving or receiving ? Top or bottom ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 9893 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 12:18:12 Subject: manzos friends need to deal with reality and stop with the stories you all know who the winner is deal with reality get out of manzos little world and wake up. you know who the winner is.The best man won. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mary posted Message 9894 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 12:20:41 Subject: Re: HEALYFORMAYOR : : BS HE DID NOT DROP OUT NOR WILL HE!!!!!!!!!11GO JERRY manzo should have ha ha ***************** End Of Article ****************** hcc posted Message 9895 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 12:55:01 Subject: over 13,000 votes not counted : There were no hanging Chads. No disenfranchisement. No voter supression. Just a level playing field and the will of the people. So if you want to blame someone for Lou's defeat... forget blaming the HCDO, or Tom DeGise. Blame his shutter bug pals. : That's the old politics of Hudson County. Lou and Gerry forgot that more than 15,000 new residents moved into town since Gerry went on "vacation". Most of them are young professionals who don't like that kind of politics. : : Let's count all the ballots first before we get drunk at Puccini's. : : Also, lets double check that nobody from the HCDO added a couple extra votes for Healy BEFORE the voting actually started. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCann has pictures of Healy posted Message 9896 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 12:59:20 Subject: So what-Jersey City doesnt care You got to come up with something more exciteing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The laughing stock of the country posted Message 9897 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 13:02:55 Subject: check out the Daily News page 20 Electon Edition Meet Nude NJ Mayor Mayor Healy ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Daily News, page 20, November 4, 2004 Election Edition posted Message 9898 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 13:48:35 Subject: Meet Nude NJ Mayor Meet nude N.J. mayor Daily News Decision 2004 November 4, 2004 BY CELESTE KATZ DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER JERSEY CITY'S apparent mayor-elect, Jerramiah Healy, hid nothing from the electorate. The city councilman outpolled 10 other candidates in a special election Tuesday - despite a widely circulated photo of him drunk and naked on his front stoop. Healy, who is expected to win the right to finish the term of the late Glenn Cunningham when the final vote is tallied, said he had too many beers to remember the full-monty photo, which his opponents tried to use against him. "It was just political dirty tricks at their lowest," Healy said yesterday. "What we tried to do is address the real issues that the people of Jersey City are concerned with." Healy, a diabetic, said a teenager passing by snapped the photo with a camera-equipped cell phone after he had downed six to eight beers over three hours. The former Municipal Court judge and assistant prosecutor said he was lured outside by a noise near his house and that he was not naked when he walked out. But he also has said: "I wish I recall how I got back out there. But I don't." Healy had a commanding lead with 90% of the votes counted yesterday. If the tally holds up, he promised to keep his clothes on and concentrate on public safety and the quality of life. Doug Muzzio, a New Jerseyan who teaches at Baruch College School of Public Affairs, said the episode is vintage Jersey politics. "C'mon - you've got so many corrupt mayors, aldermen and assorted fools and knaves, another one doesn't matter," Muzzio added. "It adds to the municipal menagerie that is Jersey City." ***************** End Of Article ****************** L@@K AT THIS! posted Message 9899 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 13:50:33 Subject: They say Jersey City a ZOO! : Meet nude N.J. mayor : Daily News : Decision 2004 : November 4, 2004 : BY CELESTE KATZ : DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER : JERSEY CITY'S apparent mayor-elect, Jerramiah Healy, hid nothing from the electorate. : The city councilman outpolled 10 other candidates in a special election Tuesday - despite a widely circulated photo of him drunk and naked on his front stoop. : Healy, who is expected to win the right to finish the term of the late Glenn Cunningham when the final vote is tallied, said he had too many beers to remember the full-monty photo, which his opponents tried to use against him. : "It was just political dirty tricks at their lowest," Healy said yesterday. "What we tried to do is address the real issues that the people of Jersey City are concerned with." : Healy, a diabetic, said a teenager passing by snapped the photo with a camera-equipped cell phone after he had downed six to eight beers over three hours. : The former Municipal Court judge and assistant prosecutor said he was lured outside by a noise near his house and that he was not naked when he walked out. But he also has said: : "I wish I recall how I got back out there. But I don't." : Healy had a commanding lead with 90% of the votes counted yesterday. If the tally holds up, he promised to keep his clothes on and concentrate on public safety and the quality of life. : Doug Muzzio, a New Jerseyan who teaches at Baruch College School of Public Affairs, said the episode is vintage Jersey politics. : "C'mon - you've got so many corrupt mayors, aldermen and assorted fools and knaves, another one doesn't matter," Muzzio added. "It adds to the municipal menagerie that is Jersey City." ***************** End Of Article ****************** New Voters for Manzo posted Message 9900 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 14:31:38 Subject: Ain't New voters in town, especially young professionals, are appalled about the corruption in HC. You think they wanted to vote for the HCDO puppet? : There were no hanging Chads. No disenfranchisement. No voter supression. Just a level playing field and the will of the people. So if you want to blame someone for Lou's defeat... forget blaming the HCDO, or Tom DeGise. Blame his shutter bug pals. : That's the old politics of Hudson County. Lou and Gerry forgot that more than 15,000 new residents moved into town since Gerry went on "vacation". Most of them are young professionals who don't like that kind of politics. : : Let's count all the ballots first before we get drunk at Puccini's. : : Also, lets double check that nobody from the HCDO added a couple extra votes for Healy BEFORE the voting actually started. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Its Simple Arithmetic posted Message 9901 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 14:38:49 Subject: Re: Putting together a strong ticket THe black vote in the city has to unite with Manzo. Together these factions (whoever is picked to run as mayor, could easily defeat the throw-back to John V Kenny, Jery Healy and the HCDO machine. THe concern is will the black leadership stick together or will they be Judas and give in to the crumbs the HCDO will hand out to keep the black vote splintered. Listen up! SC, BJ, GD : Will win in a landslide with the good people he is putting on his ticket.Names will come out soon enough. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mc Can't posted Message 9902 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 15:00:07 Subject: Phony ballots, blah blah blah Face it Gerry... the election is over, you can't spend the whole 5 month term suing, or whining. Go back to your parole officer... It's over, don't you get it? YOU LOST! ***************** End Of Article ****************** healy posted Message 9903 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 15:10:12 Subject: New News from the court house.. healy things aren't looking so good for you now are they... bwahahahahh bwahahahahahah ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 9904 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 15:31:50 Subject: On this election :::Enough already. What is done is done. The race was run, the fight was fought. Dirty or clean all sides fought hard & long for what they believed in. That a challenge has been placed, big deal, that has come to be standard practice. If either side wants the healing as bad as they say they do, now is the time to be humble. Remember, we go thru this again in a mere 7 months. Hardly time for Mr. Healy to get the Mayor's chair broken in the way he likes it. Today's enemies will be tomorrow's allies. Such is the way of politics. So as you happily throw vulgarities at each other, I wish to remind you all to - Make today's words sweet for tomorrow you may have to eat them. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A-F posted Message 9905 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 15:40:46 Subject: Re: Manzo in Ward B and E : :::Ward A - Healy : Ward B - Manzo : Ward C - Healy : Ward D - Healy : Ward E - Healy : Ward F - Flood : : : Ward E...Healy came in first, Cruz spent 7 days a week for 3 months campaigning for Smith and Healy came in first lmao! : : Not true check the numbers with the absentees already counted... Manzo won ward E, won ward B(barely), lost ward C by 300ish votes, Lost Ward D BIG (1800+ votes), and Flood did best in Ward F but Healy somehow squeeked out 900 votes from there ***************** End Of Article ****************** Since you asked... posted Message 9906 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 15:54:18 Subject: Re: Ain't Since you asked who we wanted to vote for, I will say this on behalf of the other "newcomers" in Jersey City...we sure didn't want any part of Gerry McCann. : New voters in town, especially young professionals, are appalled about the corruption in HC. You think they wanted to vote for the HCDO puppet? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Manzo for mayor posted Message 9907 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 16:16:49 Subject: www.manzoformayor.com www.manzoformayor.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chief Ballot Counter posted Message 9908 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 16:29:52 Subject: I Rest My Case..... It was a vote AGAINST McCann and the garbage he threw around in this campaign. You keep talking about the "machine"...the HCDO. Well if you hadn't noticed...Janiszewski is gone. And most of the people associated with him are history. This is a different County party than 5 years ago. This isn't the County party Schundler ran against and did battle with. This is the HCDO HE created in his own image. Tom DeGise is a Schundlerite..not a Janiszewski guy. So if you are looking for reformers...you won't find them in the camp of the indicted, convicted and jailed. Manzo blew it when he let McCann loose on our town again. He should have stayed in Manzo's office in Trenton and swam with the sharks. But he came here and got eaten by the killer whales ;) : Since you asked who we wanted to vote for, I will say this on behalf of the other "newcomers" in Jersey City...we sure didn't want any part of Gerry McCann. : : New voters in town, especially young professionals, are appalled about the corruption in HC. You think they wanted to vote for the HCDO puppet? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 9909 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 16:37:10 Subject: Humility This is a character trait unknown in Jersey City politics. One may fondly wish for it ... but it ain't gonna happen !!! : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Message Board posted Message 9910 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 17:46:41 Subject: Harvey Moving up on ballot Voting data from recent ballots has Harvey Smith inching close to Lou Manzo. Idiot WoMan-zo thinks that the absentee ballots are all for him. A lions share of the incoming ballots are going to Smith. This election is not over by a long shot and surprises could in store for Healy also. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9911 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 17:47:40 Subject: Mayor Smith Bringing Law Suit Over Election Citing the vote data misplaced for 48 hours, agressive challenges, and other election irregularities, a spokesman for the Acting Mayor says that L. Harvey Smith is in discussion with lawyers to make sure that every vote is counted. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Message Board posted Message 9912 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 17:51:26 Subject: Cardwell and Jackson Cardwell and Jackson are the Black version of Abbott and Costello their political pranks if they were not harmful to the African American community would be near comical. Their political comedy of horrors has sold the Black community to the powers at be. It is sad day that these Faustian deals these have cut has undermined the viability of the Black community for many years to come. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Message Board posted Message 9913 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 17:52:52 Subject: Cardwell and Jackson Cardwell and Jackson are the Black version of Abbott and Costello their political pranks if they were not harmful to the African American community would be near comical. Their political comedy of horrors has sold the Black community to the powers at be. It is sad day that these Faustian deals these have cut has undermined the viability of the Black community for many years to come. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CONTROLS THE VOTING MACHINES posted Message 9914 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 20:53:00 Subject: HCDO Not McCANN : : Pete will see a dirty campaign very soon. Wathch your mouth. : McCann is already stating that Healy will lose in the unofficial recount and then they will be on top. McCAnn was infamous wfor his election office operations. As with everything else, McCann had run the Hudson COunty Board of ELections with an Iron Fist. : Remember how he changed all the workers and had them replaced with policeman, cut the cables in the projects (as N's were too lazy to walk down the stairs). Intimidated minorities etc, etc. Joe Brady (the person who was supposed to enforce the laws) the Supt. of elections said after a 50 year career, he had ternished his reputation, even when working with FrankHaque, I was never forced to do things like this. You've gotstawatch these characters IF IT TURNS OUT THERE WERE VOTING IRREGULARITIES THE BLAME FALLS WITH THE HCDO NOT JERRY MCCANN. THE HCDO WILL DO EVERY AND ANYTHING TO RING THE ELECTION SO THAT THEY CAN STAY IN POWER. THATS ALL THEY GOT LEFT. THE VOTERS ABANDONED THEM. LOOK AT THE RESULTS, FLOOD, SMITH AND MANZO GOT OVER 30,000 VOTES TO THE HCDO'S 15,000, A BETTER THAN 2 TO 1 MARGIN. IF THEY DIDN;T BUY TO SPLIT THE BLACK VOTE THEY WOULD BE HISTORY. ITS SAD SOME PEOPLE SELL OUT SO CHEAPLY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BlindJustice posted Message 9915 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 22:21:00 Subject: Re: Humility :::I know my friend. Dreams are all that is left. How have you been? : This is a character trait unknown in Jersey City politics. One may fondly wish for it ... but it ain't gonna happen !!! : : ) ***************** End Of Article ****************** TOOGAY posted Message 9916 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 22:25:13 Subject: Re: Cardwell and Jackson WOW THAT'S DEEP!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** TOOGAY posted Message 9917 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 22:26:22 Subject: Re: Cardwell and Jackson WOW THAT'S DEEP TOO ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gerry McCann posted Message 9918 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 22:44:09 Subject: McCann on the unemployment line Next Monday Gerald McCann will comence collecting his unemployment checks. McCann is a sad storie of a person that did alot of good for Jersey City . ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHRIST CRISTIE FOR GOVENOR posted Message 9919 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 22:47:34 Subject: Re: Saw Tom Gaynor with Bret Schundler on TV : From Red Bank tuesday night. I guess the race for Governor has begun. From RED BANK to hell. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr.Muzzio's a typical NYC NJ boy posted Message 9920 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 22:53:26 Subject: Re: Meet Nude NJ Mayor : Meet nude N.J. mayor : Daily News : Decision 2004 : November 4, 2004 : BY CELESTE KATZ : DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER : JERSEY CITY'S apparent mayor-elect, Jerramiah Healy, hid nothing from the electorate. : The city councilman outpolled 10 other candidates in a special election Tuesday - despite a widely circulated photo of him drunk and naked on his front stoop. : Healy, who is expected to win the right to finish the term of the late Glenn Cunningham when the final vote is tallied, said he had too many beers to remember the full-monty photo, which his opponents tried to use against him. : "It was just political dirty tricks at their lowest," Healy said yesterday. "What we tried to do is address the real issues that the people of Jersey City are concerned with." : Healy, a diabetic, said a teenager passing by snapped the photo with a camera-equipped cell phone after he had downed six to eight beers over three hours. : The former Municipal Court judge and assistant prosecutor said he was lured outside by a noise near his house and that he was not naked when he walked out. But he also has said: : "I wish I recall how I got back out there. But I don't." : Healy had a commanding lead with 90% of the votes counted yesterday. If the tally holds up, he promised to keep his clothes on and concentrate on public safety and the quality of life. : Doug Muzzio, a New Jerseyan who teaches at Baruch College School of Public Affairs, said the episode is vintage Jersey politics. : "C'mon - you've got so many corrupt mayors, aldermen and assorted fools and knaves, another one doesn't matter," Muzzio added. "It adds to the municipal menagerie that is Jersey City." ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Corzine posted Message 9921 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 23:04:23 Subject: Sorry, Manzo I just tried to help with my friend McCann Last tuesday was a bad day for Sen. Corzine of NJ Manzo is gone and Kerry did good in Jersey but nothing else the Senate.Mr.Corzine the wel.thiest member of the USA Senate is thinking to run for Governor ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy was not the choice of The Donald and Boss Bob posted Message 9922 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 23:44:58 Subject: The HCDO quitely raised money for Manzo and Smith. : : Bobby Jackson and Joe Cardwell made a deal with Healy : : only to get the Judge into deep trouble with voter fraud. They will turn Buddy in very soon.Worst case , there will be a DO (do over) election for the candidates who are within 4,000 votes of Jerry Healy. Jerry Healy will go down as a person who thought he was the mayor for a week only to get fooled by corrupt campaign managers. It is a shame Jerry Healy was used by the HCDO. If he runs for this next special election and loses Bill O'Dea will step into his spot in May as the HCDO candidate. : Although these were actually operatives for McCAnn (Bobby Jackson as we called him was McCAnn's council President was trained by him) Bobby J was the People who ran Willie Floods campaing. Healy accctyually put the least effort in the Absentee, provisional etc. Anybody who wants to bet the $20,000.00 that Louie Didn't claim should set thier money that Healy will lose significantly in the recounts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy was not the choice of The Donald and Boss Bob posted Message 9923 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 04, 2004 at 23:48:00 Subject: The HCDO quietly raised money for Manzo and Smith. : : Bobby Jackson and Joe Cardwell made a deal with Healy : : only to get the Judge into deep trouble with voter fraud. They will turn Buddy in very soon.Worst case , there will be a DO (do over) election for the candidates who are within 4,000 votes of Jerry Healy. Jerry Healy will go down as a person who thought he was the mayor for a week only to get fooled by corrupt campaign managers. It is a shame Jerry Healy was used by the HCDO. If he runs for this next special election and loses Bill O'Dea will step into his spot in May as the HCDO candidate. : Although these were actually operatives for McCAnn (Bobby Jackson as we called him was McCAnn's council President was trained by him) Bobby J was the People who ran Willie Floods campaing. Healy accctyually put the least effort in the Absentee, provisional etc. Anybody who wants to bet the $20,000.00 that Louie Didn't claim should set thier money that Healy will lose significantly in the recounts. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9924 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 03:10:20 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy's people just the better organized bunch of dirtbags posted Message 9925 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 06:29:29 Subject: The difference between Manzo and Healy I have been following this sickening display of a democratic process and have come to the conclusion that both Manzo and Healy people employed the dirtiest tactics known but the Healy people had a better organized network. All I see on this board is most of the shots being fired at Manzo, Manzo firing back a few with Smith and Flood poking their heads up now and again. You people need to get a life. No wonder Jersey City is like it is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stolen votes posted Message 9926 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 06:58:44 Subject: Re: Is it any wonder about the vote?/stop being a aore loser : : With all polls showing him trailing and the lack of money/activity activity by the Healy campaign isn't it interesting that he would out poll the front r unner by almost 5 points? : : How come the county (HCDO) didn't send out sample ballots and voting place instructions to new voters, many of whom were signed up by Manzo as part of his campaign strategy? : : With thr Republicans all but conceding HC to Kerry, and no one looking over their backs, could the machines be rigged to register another lets say 5,000 votes for Healy? : : Would anybody doubt that the HCDO would stoop this low to win an election? : : you are in denial making up excuses again.just deal with it and stop being a sore loser. Yes there were votes stolen, alzhiemers patients who can't hold a pen voting absentee at Mocco's nursing homes, patients at drug clinics forced to sign frauudulent absentee, the sell out republicans are running the Hudson COunty Board of Elections ala Lictenberger. they endorsed Manzo who endorsed Kerry npow they're dragging thier feeeeeeeeeeeet to slow down Healy's sure win. MAnzo, ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uncle Lou's CAbin posted Message 9927 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 07:04:47 Subject: Re: HCDO Not McCANN : : : Pete will see a dirty campaign very soon. Wathch your mouth. : : McCann is already stating that Healy will lose in the unofficial recount and then they will be on top. McCAnn was infamous wfor his election office operations. As with everything else, McCann had run the Hudson COunty Board of ELections with an Iron Fist. : : Remember how he changed all the workers and had them replaced with policeman, cut the cables in the projects (as N's were too lazy to walk down the stairs). Intimidated minorities etc, etc. Joe Brady (the person who was supposed to enforce the laws) the Supt. of elections said after a 50 year career, he had ternished his reputation, even when working with FrankHaque, I was never forced to do things like this. You've gotstawatch these characters : IF IT TURNS OUT THERE WERE VOTING IRREGULARITIES THE BLAME FALLS WITH THE HCDO NOT JERRY MCCANN. THE HCDO WILL DO EVERY AND ANYTHING TO RING THE ELECTION SO THAT THEY CAN STAY IN POWER. THATS ALL THEY GOT LEFT. THE VOTERS ABANDONED THEM. : LOOK AT THE RESULTS, FLOOD, SMITH AND MANZO GOT OVER 30,000 VOTES TO THE HCDO'S 15,000, A BETTER THAN 2 TO 1 MARGIN. : IF THEY DIDN;T BUY TO SPLIT THE BLACK VOTE THEY WOULD BE HISTORY. ITS SAD SOME PEOPLE SELL OUT SO CHEAPLY. Wishful thinking, it wasn't the blacks selling themselves out, it was a thing most people ioon Politics don't understand call principal. Harvey worked weith Menendez to help "kill" Glen Cunnningham. they obstructed him in everyway so that they couldkeep the City and COunty underthecontrol of North Bergen, this poor woman lost her hubby he was a fine man and the stress of daily life knowing these people weregunning for you was more than this decent man could handle , although aIdidn't like the staff around him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Who is watching the ballota? posted Message 9928 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 08:14:19 Subject: Re: Mayor Smith Bringing Law Suit Over Election Everyone has their lawyers there, but who is watching the ballots? : Citing the vote data misplaced for 48 hours, agressive challenges, and other election irregularities, a spokesman for the Acting Mayor says that L. Harvey Smith is in discussion with lawyers to make sure that every vote is counted. ***************** End Of Article ****************** payback posted Message 9929 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 08:31:33 Subject: Degise new Defacto head of HCDO See you later Bob menendez..... now they are coming for your congressional seat. No way you will be #3 in congress this year and then to top it they are gunning for your seat in Hudson COunty... rudy garcia ask Bob.... isn't payback a b----??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** sean? posted Message 9930 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 08:40:53 Subject: Re: The difference between Manzo and Healy : I have been following this sickening display of a democratic process and have come to the conclusion that both Manzo and Healy people employed the dirtiest tactics known but the Healy people had a better organized network. All I see on this board is most of the shots being fired at Manzo, Manzo firing back a few with Smith and Flood poking their heads up now and again. You people need to get a life. No wonder Jersey City is like it is. :::::rumor has it that sean connors took or set up the photo that cost manzo the election. diricted by wannabe mayor for life, sean's idol, mc cann. sean? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9931 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 09:07:52 Subject: Online Audio: Lou Manzo on Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking -- November 1, 2004 Lou Manzo, candidate for Mayor of Jersey City in the Special Election, is the guest. To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** healy4mayor posted Message 9932 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 12:40:23 Subject: Re: The difference between Manzo and Healy : : I have been following this sickening display of a democratic process and have come to the conclusion that both Manzo and Healy people employed the dirtiest tactics known but the Healy people had a better organized network. All I see on this board is most of the shots being fired at Manzo, Manzo firing back a few with Smith and Flood poking their heads up now and again. You people need to get a life. No wonder Jersey City is like it is. : :::::rumor has it that sean connors took or set up the photo that cost manzo the election. diricted by wannabe mayor for life, sean's idol, mc cann. sean? Just about everyone has come to us and said the same thing. Sean has a lot of problems ahead of him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Board of Elections posted Message 9933 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 13:10:51 Subject: McCann gets Busted While going through the absentee ballots, a worker at the Board of Elections comes across her own mothers absentee ballot. The elderly absentee voter is in a home with Alzheimers. This board workers knows her mother did not vote and is incaplable of voting. Low and behold on the absentee ballot is a signature, not her mothers, but more damaging, the witness was none other than Gerry McCann. The board worker is pressing charges. Gerry's games have been uncovered...again ***************** End Of Article ****************** Observer posted Message 9934 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 13:32:03 Subject: Healy the likely winner From PoliticsNJ.com Healy lead holds in Jersey City mayoral race; Manzo waiting for final tally By STEVE KORNACKI PoliticsNJ.com November 4 - The counting is still going on in Jersey City and will likely continue until early next week, but there are indications that the outcome the mayoral race will not change from election night. At issue is the refusal of Assemblyman Louis M. Manzo, who finished second to City Councilman Jerramiah Healy on Tuesday, to concede the race. Manzo said after the initial tally that a combination of 8,000 or so absentee, provisional and uncounted ballots could provide him with enough support to overtake Healy. But while there remain many outstanding votes, it doesn’t look like they will break decisively for Manzo -- if they break his way at all. About 2,000 absentee ballots were tabulated today, with Manzo picking up 883 votes to Healy’s 544. The rest of the absentee ballots were split up among the race’s nine other combatants. That still leaves Manzo with a deficit of about 2,300 votes. Many insiders believed he would fare better in the absentee count, since his campaign was aided by former Mayor Gerald McCann, who has used absentee ballots as a key component of past election strategies. Then there’s the provisional ballots, which number about 4,000. But a chunk of them- how many is anyone’s guess- will apparently be thrown out. That’s because under the law, provisional voters who could not produce valid ID at their polling site have 48 hours to present identification to county election officials. As of this afternoon, no one had done so. The requirements aren’t as stringent for other provisional voters, but even among the ballots that are counted, it’s tough to see Manzo gaining an edge: more than a quarter of the provisional ballots were submitted in Ward F, a predominantly African-American area where both Manzo and Healy ran poorly; and 524 were from Ward B, where Healy trounced Manzo. There’s also a number of uncounted ballots scattered throughout various city wards. The reason: when machines malfunctioned at some polling places, they were simply put aside and turned off, with poll workers forgetting to submit their cartridges at the end of the day. There is a total of 18 uncounted cartridges, but some may have only a few votes on them, if poll workers decommissioned the machines early in the day. Additionally, none of the cartridges are from Ward B, the only one of the city’s six wards that Manzo won. Election officials say that each provisional ballot will be ruled on by the election superintendent and then, if it is determined to be valid, turned over the board of elections, a process that should be complete early next week. That’s also when the cartridges will be collected and counted. Manzo’s reluctance to concede is understandable. It’s tough enough to admit defeat in any race, and this is his fourth bid for mayor. Winning, as one veteran Jersey City Democrats put it, would put Manzo “in the cat seat” politically. He’d lord over a patronage empire and likely would be embraced by the county’s Democratic king, Rep. Robert Menendez (D-Hoboken). But a loss would threaten to send Manzo’s political career, revived by his unexpected Assembly comeback last year, back into the wilderness, with Healy and his allies potentially denying him party support in his Assembly re-election bid next year. Jersey City, a Democratic bastion, has been plagued by party in-fighting in recent years. The late Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham waged a bitter power struggle with Menendez. Manzo sided with Cunningham in that fight, but most of the city’s Democratic leaders did not. But most Democratic leaders, in Jersey City and throughout Hudson County, and Menendez himself, are said to be tired of the warring and ready to work with whomever the next mayor is. So if Healy wins, he and his chief backer, County Executive Thomas A. DeGise, will probably have enough political clout to marginalize Manzo, ousting him from his Assembly seat and uniting the Democratic organization to thwart a potential fifth Manzo mayoral bid next May. Healy is also hoping to mend a rift between his allies and those of Cunningham. Healy, as a city councilman, had sided with Menendez against Cunningham. But on election night, Healy’s celebration was unexpectedly visited by Sandra Bolden-Cunningham, the late mayor’s widow, and Willie Flood, the mayoral candidate Bolden-Cunningham backed. Her appearance was significant, since the party was filled with the same people who had been so fiercely at-odds with Mayor Cunningham. Some in his camp believe that as mayor Healy will bridge the divide between Menendez and the county party and the Cunningham faction in Jersey City. One approach he might take, a source said: convincing the county’s Democrats to back Bolden-Cunningham for the state Assembly next year, possibly at the expense of Manzo. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I don't have Alzheimers and I seem to recall this story making the rounds a couple of times. posted Message 9935 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 13:49:52 Subject: Re: McCann gets Busted : While going through the absentee ballots, a worker at the Board of Elections comes across her own mothers absentee ballot. The elderly absentee voter is in a home with Alzheimers. This board workers knows her mother did not vote and is incaplable of voting. : Low and behold on the absentee ballot is a signature, not her mothers, but more damaging, the witness was none other than Gerry McCann. : The board worker is pressing charges. : Gerry's games have been uncovered...again ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now Schundler posted Message 9936 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 14:14:19 Subject: Thank you America for electing Bush-Now vote for Bret Schundler There is still hope out there.We can offset the brain dead in the cities. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Now Schundler posted Message 9937 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 14:14:29 Subject: Thank you America for electing Bush-Now vote for Bret Schundler There is still hope out there.We can offset the brain dead in the cities. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stolen election posted Message 9938 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 15:59:04 Subject: Missing Votes We may never know the truth about this election, whodunnit!? ***************** End Of Article ****************** heightster posted Message 9939 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 17:47:51 Subject: RESULTS This is from the Hudson County Clerk's website. Can we all move on now???? Jersey City Mayor Completed Precincts: 184 of 184 (100.00%) Vote Count Percent NBP - DWAYNE BASKERVILLE 555 0.95% NBP - ALFRED MARC PINE 425 0.73% NBP - THOMAS SHORT 210 0.36% NBP - ISAIAH J. GADSDEN 450 0.77% NBP - HILARIO NUNEZ, JR. 737 1.26% NBP - WILLIE L. FLOOD 8,674 14.84% NBP - L. HARVEY SMITH 12,827 21.94% NBP - LOUIS M. MANZO 13,752 23.52% NBP - STEVE LIPSKI 3,769 6.45% NBP - JERRAMIAH HEALY 16,422 28.09% NBP - HOSAM MANSOUR 600 1.03% Personal Choice 37 0.06% Total 58,458 100.00% ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 9940 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 20:36:52 Subject: Can you say Jon Corzine ? This isn't a red state filled with right wing religious wack jobs. Schundler has no shot. Corzine for Governor ! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 9941 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 20:39:55 Subject: Rudy Garcia ? Rudy Garcia's political career ended a long time ago. No one in Union City will support him, let alone Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 9942 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 20:41:15 Subject: I hear Carl Czaplicki will be ... Healy's Chief of Staff. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat posted Message 9943 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 20:52:23 Subject: healys a winner healys a winner lou start packing your bags your state seat is next ***************** End Of Article ****************** kenny posted Message 9944 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 22:10:53 Subject: mayor healy congratulations mayor healy it is about time the other people finaly conceed to the great man and mayor jerramiah healy good luck in office and four more years ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 9945 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 22:14:00 Subject: lou manzo ok boys and girls pack your bags its time to go new man in office its house cleaning time ***************** End Of Article ****************** mike posted Message 9946 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 05, 2004 at 22:30:54 Subject: sandra cunningham sandra cunningham for state seat lou manzo out ***************** End Of Article ****************** frankiedank posted Message 9947 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 00:48:58 Subject: Re: The difference between Manzo and Healy : : : I have been following this sickening display of a democratic process and have come to the conclusion that both Manzo and Healy people employed the dirtiest tactics known but the Healy people had a better organized network. All I see on this board is most of the shots being fired at Manzo, Manzo firing back a few with Smith and Flood poking their heads up now and again. You people need to get a life. No wonder Jersey City is like it is. : : :::::rumor has it that sean connors took or set up the photo that cost manzo the election. diricted by wannabe mayor for life, sean's idol, mc cann. sean? : Just about everyone has come to us and said the same thing. Sean has a lot of problems ahead of him. Does it matter who took the photo?........the man was outside naked. Bottomline ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 9948 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 01:25:08 Subject: Lou Manzo's Biggest Mistake Lou Manzo's biggest mistake was wasting time and resources ejecting Ron Buonocore from the race. The escapade took the focus away from the campaign. The stories of forced entry to gather evidence did not engender the confidence of the voters. Jerry Healy's campaign staff did a great job of portraying him as a judge and as a prosecutor -- a law and order candidate. Facing a police officer as an opponent would have diluted Healy's message. By going to court to remove Ron Buonocore from the campaign, Lou Manzo helped Jerry Healy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** shame posted Message 9949 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 07:27:10 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo's Biggest Mistake : Lou Manzo's biggest mistake was wasting time and resources ejecting Ron Buonocore from the race. The escapade took the focus away from the campaign. : The stories of forced entry to gather evidence did not engender the confidence of the voters. : Jerry Healy's campaign staff did a great job of portraying him as a judge and as a prosecutor -- a law and order candidate. Facing a police officer as an opponent would have diluted Healy's message. : By going to court to remove Ron Buonocore from the campaign, Lou Manzo helped Jerry Healy. ::::Biggest mistake-Gerry Mc Cann. People are fed up with this trash. He is desperate for a life and a living and has nothing to lose. No Mc Cann- Manzo's the winner. No one to blame but himself. He was warned. Mc Cann has no place among decent people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** shame posted Message 9950 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 07:38:52 Subject: Re: The difference between Manzo and Healy : : : : I have been following this sickening display of a democratic process and have come to the conclusion that both Manzo and Healy people employed the dirtiest tactics known but the Healy people had a better organized network. All I see on this board is most of the shots being fired at Manzo, Manzo firing back a few with Smith and Flood poking their heads up now and again. You people need to get a life. No wonder Jersey City is like it is. : : : :::::rumor has it that sean connors took or set up the photo that cost manzo the election. diricted by wannabe mayor for life, sean's idol, mc cann. sean? : : Just about everyone has come to us and said the same thing. Sean has a lot of problems ahead of him. : Does it matter who took the photo?........the man was outside naked. Bottomline :::Sleaze and lying always matter. The coverup is nearly always worse than the deed. If you did it , admit it, otherwise it looks like you're ashamed. Not to mentioned easily lead by the biggest bum in the history of JC politics, Gerry Mc Cann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** More to Come posted Message 9951 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 07:41:56 Subject: Word has it McCann has loads of stuff on Healy Can jersey City survive this ongoing story of drinking and family fighting? ***************** End Of Article ****************** So give it a rest already posted Message 9952 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 08:06:56 Subject: Re: Word has it McCann has loads of stuff on Healy :::If Merry Gerry isn't going to take anyone's advice as to when this stuff should be revealed there is no point whatsoever. In my opinion, that picture should NOT had been released when it was. Damage control was effectively put in place because of this fatal blunder and it was a big reason why Lou lost. Gerry is one of the best in the game but if he is not going to take anyone else's council and run things as if it was all about him then whoever he hooks up with will be the loser. Remember what happened to DeGise in 2001. : Can jersey City survive this ongoing story of drinking and family fighting? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here comes the Sellout posted Message 9953 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 08:11:07 Subject: UTN ,Bobby Jackson ready to sellout Glenn Cunninghams Memory HCDO to throw the UTN a couple of bones.Machine corruption is all in place. Porky Pig Menendez still rules over Jersey City. ***************** End Of Article ****************** care posted Message 9954 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 08:16:05 Subject: Re: Word has it McCann has loads of stuff on Healy : Can jersey City survive this ongoing story of drinking and family fighting? ::Should anyone care what the sociopath Mc Cann has on anyone? The picture cost Manzo the election. What next. Mc Cann screwed Manzo and Sean Connors for life, but still carrys on. Wake up. ***************** End Of Article ****************** survived posted Message 9955 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 08:18:08 Subject: Re: Word has it McCann has loads of stuff on Healy : :::If Merry Gerry isn't going to take anyone's advice as to when this stuff should be revealed there is no point whatsoever. In my opinion, that picture should NOT had been released when it was. Damage control was effectively put in place because of this fatal blunder and it was a big reason why Lou lost. : Gerry is one of the best in the game but if he is not going to take anyone else's council and run things as if it was all about him then whoever he hooks up with will be the loser. Remember what happened to DeGise in 2001. : : Can jersey City survive this ongoing story of drinking and family fighting? ::JC survived the thief Mc Cann, didn't it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat posted Message 9956 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 08:36:26 Subject: healy won goodbye manzo and merry jerrry healys wins lou you took jerry down yrs ago now he takes you down told you watch out for merry jerry yeaa healy your number one ***************** End Of Article ****************** CC posted Message 9957 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 09:30:59 Subject: Re: I hear Carl Czaplicki will be ... Carl Czaplicki is CAPTAIN CLUESS! ***************** End Of Article ****************** load of $hit posted Message 9958 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 09:49:34 Subject: McCann is a load McCann is a load ***************** End Of Article ****************** If Blacks Sellout to HCDO posted Message 9959 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 10:41:06 Subject: You will never see a Black Mayor for Fifty Years in JC Its your call Bobby Jackson & Joe Cardwell. Glenn Cunningham will be watching. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Shutter Bug posted Message 9960 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 12:25:17 Subject: If Only..... If only there were pictures of every sleezy deed McCann did during his rein of terror in JC. If only there were pics of his under-handed tactis. If only there were pics of him running around behind his ex-wife's back while they were still married. If only there was a shutter bug following him around...imagine the dirty incriminating photos that would NEVER have been posted on the Internet...because most people have a set of morals which wouldn't allow them to go that far. But then again....this is Gerry McCann. He is void of morals. : : : : : I have been following this sickening display of a democratic process and have come to the conclusion that both Manzo and Healy people employed the dirtiest tactics known but the Healy people had a better organized network. All I see on this board is most of the shots being fired at Manzo, Manzo firing back a few with Smith and Flood poking their heads up now and again. You people need to get a life. No wonder Jersey City is like it is. : : : : :::::rumor has it that sean connors took or set up the photo that cost manzo the election. diricted by wannabe mayor for life, sean's idol, mc cann. sean? : : : Just about everyone has come to us and said the same thing. Sean has a lot of problems ahead of him. : : Does it matter who took the photo?........the man was outside naked. Bottomline : :::Sleaze and lying always matter. The coverup is nearly always worse than the deed. If you did it , admit it, otherwise it looks like you're ashamed. Not to mentioned easily lead by the biggest bum in the history of JC politics, Gerry Mc Cann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Message Board posted Message 9961 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 12:40:57 Subject: Danny Boy Word is that Danny McMann is headed back to rehab after his boyfriend Manzo lost election ***************** End Of Article ****************** Uncle UTN posted Message 9962 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 13:16:03 Subject: Its Not Harvey Smith but UTN who is the uncle Now we know the truth Ward F who the real uncles are. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 9963 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 13:43:17 Subject: NJN Video: Jersey City Election Challenge Lou Manzo and L. Harvey Smith file legal suits challenging the certification of last Tuesday's Special Election for Mayor of Jersey City. To view the Online video, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 9964 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 15:06:03 Subject: district 15 win your dist. then you might become ward leader!!!!!!!you are done BILLY get yourself a bus card as of 12/1/04 your grant is DONE inspect 134 now because you are done ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Doctor posted Message 9965 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 15:13:00 Subject: Can you say "HASBEEN" Schundler is a right winger. He will never win in New Jersey. We are a swing state. Moderates rule the state from the center of the political spectrum. Schundler is a right-winger with no future at the top of the political food chain in this state. : There is still hope out there.We can offset the brain dead in the cities. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No. 9 posted Message 9966 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 15:17:37 Subject: "I feel like I've been hit by a refridgerator." "I feel like I've been hit by a refridgerator." Lou Manzo after being defeated by Bret Schundler back in '93. What's it like this time, Lou? Back then, Bobby J was paying your way. This one's on you, Lou. So, what do you think? A bus? A truck? ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN Shame posted Message 9967 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 16:18:52 Subject: Lets play the price is right Ward F is the only loser on this one.We will never see a black Mayor again.HCDO wins over us.We will always remember the big sellout by the UTN gang to the HCDO. Poor Glenn Cunningham takes it on the chin. ***************** End Of Article ****************** bored posted Message 9968 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 16:43:02 Subject: Re: district 15 : win your dist. then you might become ward leader!!!!!!!you are done BILLY get yourself a bus card as of 12/1/04 your grant is DONE inspect 134 now because you are done ;;;;DIXON/GAUGHAN, this makes no sense. You are the parasites. ***************** End Of Article ****************** how sad posted Message 9969 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 17:40:17 Subject: Re: district 15 : win your dist. then you might become ward leader!!!!!!!you are done BILLY get yourself a bus card as of 12/1/04 your grant is DONE inspect 134 now because you are done ;;;;;Red flyer. Drunk before 3pm. How sad. Who's watching the baby? ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 9970 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 17:41:31 Subject: WHERE ARE THE MANZO PEOPLE HA HA HA!! HEY ARE ALL THE MANZO PEOPLE OUT OF TOWN . ***************** End Of Article ****************** found 'em posted Message 9971 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 17:44:09 Subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE MANZO PEOPLE HA HA HA!! : HEY ARE ALL THE MANZO PEOPLE OUT OF TOWN . ::::::No, they're at your sister's. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 9972 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 18:50:00 Subject: Re: "I feel like I've been hit by a refridgerator." : "I feel like I've been hit by a refridgerator." : Lou Manzo after being defeated by Bret Schundler back in '93. : What's it like this time, Lou? Back then, Bobby J was paying your way. This one's on you, Lou. : So, what do you think? A bus? A truck? :::Little drunken Jimmy and his nasty drunken father in law. ***************** End Of Article ****************** KKK posted Message 9973 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 19:10:49 Subject: Re: You will never see a Black Mayor for Fifty Years in JC We hope so!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** pat posted Message 9974 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 19:19:02 Subject: mccann helps manzo HEALY WINS THANKS louie after see jerry mccann act at our lady of mercy no wonder healy won ward a thanks again jerry HEALY TAKES WARD A WE KNEW IT ALL THE TIME ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ron4mayor posted Message 9975 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 19:24:16 Subject: Re: Lou Manzo's Biggest Mistake You dumb a$$hole! Lou did it all himself and with the help McCann. But, by knocking out Ron, we all rallied around Healy. We took a big chunk out of ward D and a bigger one in ward C. By us re-visiting our supporters, Healy clobbered Lou in these two wards. Also, there were some very respectable people in the Ron Camp. The most respectable went to Healy's aid because of the dirtbag tactics Manzo was using. Jerry needed a counter for the drinking and photo crap. What is really respectable, none of us want glory for what we did. Our man was out, Jerry Healy is a great guy, we got along well with his campaign people, the rest is history. Lou, get out of town, the people of this city have spoken and it sounds like H-E-A-L-Y !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** For shame posted Message 9976 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 22:24:54 Subject: Re: mccann helps manzo HEALY WINS THANKS Heard Father Jack threw McCann out of OLM for his four letter language in a catholic school auditorium that was serving as a polling place on election day What a real class act. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Judge posted Message 9977 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 06, 2004 at 22:27:27 Subject: Re: NJN Video: Jersey City Election Challenge Lou always sues when he loses, same old same old just like 2001. He just needs a "judge" to tell him he is still a loser! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy bad new Coming out posted Message 9978 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 08:28:54 Subject: McCann says this is the tip of the iceberg on Healy Can Jersey City take any more bad newsabout Healy &the HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** sad posted Message 9979 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 08:51:23 Subject: Re: McCann says this is the tip of the iceberg on Healy : Can Jersey City take any more bad newsabout Healy &the HCDO. ::::Mc Cann's sick and desperate. Will say and do anything to make a living off taxpayers. Can't make it on his own, never could. Ruined many people. A coward with a big mouth. Never threw a punch. Destroyed Manzo and now Connors is finished before he even began. Thanks, nutsy. ***************** End Of Article ****************** toogay posted Message 9980 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 09:45:01 Subject: Re: sandra cunningham : sandra cunningham for dog catcher, I won't support her ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandra Cunningham posted Message 9981 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 13:20:45 Subject: Sold out the black leadership for a chance to be a assembly woman Sad,but true Sandra do not have 2 votes in ward F, people are mad with Willie and Mrs. Cunningham sold out the people for positions with the HCDO.If Willie gets something with Healy you know the price,she sold the african american s for 20000 dollars cogratulations .. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CORZINE THE BIGGEST LOOSER ON NOV2 US SENATE 55-44 posted Message 9982 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 13:27:47 Subject: Re: Can you say Jon Corzine ? : This isn't a red state filled with right wing religious wack jobs. Schundler has no shot. : Corzine for Governor ! CORZINE IS A CORRUPT LIKE BOBBYJ.AND MANY OTHERS IN HUDSON COUNTY MULTIMILLONAIRE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE WORKING CLASS,NEVER IN HIS LIFE DID NOTHING FOR NOBODY JUST FIND OUT HOW MANY LAWS MR RICHBOY FROM NJ HAS IN THE US SENATE =0 TALK TALK AND TALK AND NO ACTION. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You are 900% rigth she SANDRA is no words in the english language.............. posted Message 9983 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 13:32:43 Subject: Re: Sold out the black leadership for a chance to be a assembly woman : Sad,but true Sandra do not have 2 votes in ward F, people : are mad with Willie and Mrs. Cunningham sold out the people for positions with the HCDO.If Willie gets something with Healy you know the price,she sold the african american s for 20000 dollars cogratulations .. She sold out everybody with Willie the new UNCLE TOMS ARE HERE lets wait for the URBAN TIMES HUPP they sold out too!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NON-PREDJUDICE posted Message 9984 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 13:37:59 Subject: Re: You will never see a Black Mayor for Fifty Years in JC :IT SHOULD NOT MATTER WHETHER A MAYOR IS BLACK OR WHITE. iT SHOULD MATTER THAT HE BE THE MOST QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB AND ALSO A MAYOR FOR ALL THE PEOPLE: BLACK, WHITE, HISPANIC, ASIAN, ETC., ETC..... INTELLIGENT PEOPLE DO NOT VOTE BASED ON RACE, THEY VOTE ON QUALIFICATIONS. PEOPLE WHO VOTE BASED ON RACE ARE PERPETUATING THE VERY RACISM AND DISCRIMINATION THEY PURPORT TO DESPISE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Please understand DeGise,Goughan,Healy are the new Cunningham legacy posted Message 9985 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 13:39:11 Subject: Re: Sold out the black leadership for a chance to be a assembly woman : : Sad,but true Sandra do not have 2 votes in ward F, people : : are mad with Willie and Mrs. Cunningham sold out the people for positions with the HCDO.If Willie gets something with Healy you know the price,she sold the african american s for 20000 dollars cogratulations .. : She sold out everybody with Willie the new UNCLE TOMS : ARE HERE lets wait for the URBAN TIMES HUPP they sold out too!!!!!!!!! The HCDO with Menendez will keep the legacy HOW MUCH? Legacy= a job for Willie with Healy and a Assembly chair for Sandy the former first lady MS.C.and couple ads for the URBAN TIMES.please don't forget the ribs BBQ for free... ***************** End Of Article ****************** Please Sandra go back to Newark!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted Message 9986 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 13:45:45 Subject: Please take Ms. FOR SALE FLOOD with you Sandra and WIllie go back to the Carolinas or Newark you maybe can sale more people in those places they dont know you girls well like we do in JC. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth Is .... posted Message 9987 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 13:47:46 Subject: Everything Happens for a Reason Judge Healy is by far, not the worst thing to happen to Jersey City. I only hope two things: He will not be a puppet of the County and also that he takes better care of his health so that we do not have a similar situation in the form of another special election again in the future. Lou Manzo could have won the race on his own merits and achievements in the Assembly...However, he was blinded and duped by McCann, who was seeking revenge for Manzo knocking him off the ballot in his last attempt at a mayoral run. Though I did not work for Judge Healy, I think that it is time that we all come together for the good of Jersey City. Enough of the finger-pointing and fighting, and for once can we just act like adults and do that which is good for the future of the City and the future of our children. ***************** End Of Article ****************** News,news, Sandra got a job posted Message 9988 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 13:50:27 Subject: Las Vegas Nevada Sandra te new first lady of LAS VEGAS............Willie with Healy too old.SMILE SMILE.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Enough fiinger pointing thanks to McCann we are saved in JC. posted Message 9989 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 13:54:17 Subject: Re: Everything Happens for a Reason : Judge Healy is by far, not the worst thing to happen to Jersey City. I only hope two things: He will not be a puppet of the County and also that he takes better care of his health so that we do not have a similar situation in the form of another special election again in the future. Lou Manzo could have won the race on his own merits and achievements in the Assembly...However, he was blinded and duped by McCann, who was seeking revenge for Manzo knocking him off the ballot in his last attempt at a mayoral run. Though I did not work for Judge Healy, I think that it is time that we all come together for the good of Jersey City. Enough of the finger-pointing and fighting, and for once can we just act like adults and do that which is good for the future of the City and the future of our children. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BUDDY D. posted Message 9990 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 14:47:00 Subject: BILL R. I NOW KNOW IT WAS YOU WHO THREW PAINT ON MY CAR!!!!! ONE OF YOUR BUDDY'S GAVE YOU UP. SEE TOU IN MY OFFICE IN A FEW DAY'S ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 9991 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 15:40:48 Subject: Did the painter . . . : I NOW KNOW IT WAS YOU WHO THREW PAINT ON MY CAR!!!!! ONE OF YOUR BUDDY'S GAVE YOU UP. SEE TOU IN MY OFFICE IN A FEW DAY'S Did the painter paint himself into a corner? ***************** End Of Article ****************** frankiedank posted Message 9992 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 19:11:14 Subject: Re: mccann helps manzo HEALY WINS THANKS : louie after see jerry mccann act at our lady of mercy no wonder healy won ward a thanks again jerry HEALY TAKES WARD A WE KNEW IT ALL THE TIME The incident happened outside and Gerry didn't start it. I was there ***************** End Of Article ****************** saw it 2 posted Message 9993 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 19:36:14 Subject: Re: mccann helps manzo HEALY WINS THANKS : : louie after see jerry mccann act at our lady of mercy no wonder healy won ward a thanks again jerry HEALY TAKES WARD A WE KNEW IT ALL THE TIME : The incident happened outside and Gerry didn't start it. I was there ::::No way. It was typical Mc Cann. Start it. Run away. The man's a coward. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JAMBO posted Message 9994 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 07, 2004 at 19:37:01 Subject: HEALY WILL BE A GREAT MAYOR NOT A PUPPET JERRY HEALY WILL NOT BE A PUPPET FOR THE HCDO YOU CAN BET ON IT HE WASNT WHEN HE WAS A COUNCILMAN HE VOTED FOR A LOT OF GLENS PROPOSALS AND WAS A INDEPENDANT IN HIS VOTING. GOOD LUCK JERRY!! PS NO ONE WILL BEAT HIM IN MAY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BONES posted Message 9995 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 01:13:40 Subject: Re: Word has it McCann has loads of stuff on Healy : : :::If Merry Gerry isn't going to take anyone's advice as to when this stuff should be revealed there is no point whatsoever. In my opinion, that picture should NOT had been released when it was. Damage control was effectively put in place because of this fatal blunder and it was a big reason why Lou lost. : : Gerry is one of the best in the game but if he is not going to take anyone else's council and run things as if it was all about him then whoever he hooks up with will be the loser. Remember what happened to DeGise in 2001. : : : Can jersey City survive this ongoing story of drinking and family fighting? : : ::JC survived the thief Mc Cann, didn't it. McCann says that healey was with his brother doing cokok and beating on the negroes with him on Saturday nites, and then shaking down vendors with him when he was stealing from the city, this psychopath piece of shiser. He wants that healey to win with 40,000 votes in May go to North Bergen and steal votess with the people you stole our city with ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy can be a good mayor posted Message 9996 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 01:37:58 Subject: Re: HEALY WILL BE A GREAT MAYOR NOT A PUPPET : JERRY HEALY WILL NOT BE A PUPPET FOR THE HCDO : YOU CAN BET ON IT HE WASNT WHEN HE WAS A COUNCILMAN HE VOTED FOR A LOT OF GLENS PROPOSALS AND WAS A INDEPENDANT IN HIS VOTING. : GOOD LUCK JERRY!! : PS NO ONE WILL BEAT HIM IN MAY. Not because he voted for the former administration,. the reason is simple a independent thinker.Glenn rest in peace was a good person but the agenda was control by Gene Drayton,Bill Ayala,Mrs Cunningham,Bobby andJoeetc etc. We dont want nothing with the last administration we want progress. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gene Drayton too...........male club maybe? posted Message 9997 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 01:40:06 Subject: Re: Las Vegas Nevada : Sandra te new first lady of LAS VEGAS............Willie with Healy too old.SMILE SMILE.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** MANZO 4 TIMES posted Message 9998 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 01:47:19 Subject: JERSEY CITY STOP MANZO 4 TIMES LOOSER WITH McCANN HELP LOU LOST HIS FOURTH RUN FOR MAYOR,BILLY O'DEA DID NOT HELP TOOMUCH PAYBACK BILLY WAS WITH HEALY INFORMANT FOR THE HCDO HOW MANZO IS GOING TO WIN ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy will be A-1 Mayor posted Message 9999 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 01:53:30 Subject: Buddy D. a even better person to direct our next mayor Buddy deserved alot of credit for this victory , Ward A,Ward B Ward C and D leaders also did a great job but Ward E was a disaster . ***************** End Of Article ****************** locksmith posted Message 10000 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 05:43:04 Subject: blue dress how much jissum is on Maggie Doyle's Forehead? ***************** End Of Article ****************** locksmith posted Message 10001 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 07:19:43 Subject: jealous of Manzo Millions Vote my ass!!! Your just jealous of Alan & Adam Manzo!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hudson County Message Board posted Message 10002 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 08:06:34 Subject: Real Deal is a Raw Deal Cardwell, Jackson, Flood and Sandie sold out the black commnunity to the HCDO. Jackson's restaurant should be called the "RAW DEAL" because that is exactly what they perpetrated on the African Americans in Jersey City's Ward F. Don't be surpised if all of the above end up with jobs and political patronage. Its about time that the black community recognize these sell outs for what they really are. Nothing worse than black on black exploitation. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandie for Office posted Message 10003 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 08:20:31 Subject: Sell out Poor Glenn must stirring in his grave. Now that Cardwell, Jackson, Flood and Sandie have sold out his legacy to the HCDO. How low will this motley crew stoop for power and greed. The losers are the voters in Ward F. When will they wake to the shenanigans of these dastardly idiots. They cut deals to purposely undermine L. Harvey's efforts to be elected Mayot of J.C. They represent their own self interests and not those of WARD F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lumpers posted Message 10004 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 09:21:59 Subject: Re: Buddy D. a even better person to direct our next mayor Agreed! And Ward E pretended they worked hard as ward F held out their hand for more money more money more money! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bob Wire posted Message 10005 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 09:40:10 Subject: Sean Connors What a shame, you could have been a councilmen but now all is lost! Your real friends tried to warn you but you did not listen. You hurt good people for the sake of a convict. Now sadely it is time to pay the price. RIP ***************** End Of Article ****************** Honkey posted Message 10006 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 09:45:35 Subject: Re: Sell out of Black votes Uncle Harvey has no one to blame but himself. The tactics that he used in city hall and against other individuals took him down. If you spent more time in wards C & D you might have got more votes. Your Headquarters on Central Ave. was closed more than it was open. Don't blame sandie or willie because of your mistakes. Next time, drop the raciest sidekicks and run a true campaign. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. Tibs posted Message 10007 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 09:52:17 Subject: Re: Real Deal is a Raw Deal & No Deal! You are a disgrace to the Black Community! Do not blame anyone but your self for the loss. Ward F is NOT about being Black, it is about what is good for it's citizens. Mayor Healy will prove that you do not have to be black in order to help and work with the black community. Thank You Sandie & Willie, we look forward to working with you! ***************** End Of Article ****************** agreemen posted Message 10008 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 10:04:06 Subject: Re: Buddy D. a even better person to direct our next mayor Who ran Ward E for Healy...please advise? whoever it is has ZERO clout as evident by the ward results and the presence... agree on Buddy D : Agreed! : And Ward E pretended they worked hard as ward F held out their hand for more money more money more money! ***************** End Of Article ****************** question posted Message 10009 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 10:07:28 Subject: Re: Sean Connors Do you think Sean Connors will still run for City Council???!? does he have a slate or does he have any pull in the heights? : What a shame, you could have been a councilmen but now all is lost! Your real friends tried to warn you but you did not listen. You hurt good people for the sake of a convict. Now sadely it is time to pay the price. RIP ***************** End Of Article ****************** question mark posted Message 10010 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 10:29:36 Subject: Re: Sean Connors ::Sean Connors still seems pretty committed in making a run for the Council. Still very popular in the Heights. Has got some hard decisions to make but still may be able to pull it off. : Do you think Sean Connors will still run for City Council???!? does he have a slate or does he have any pull in the heights? : : : What a shame, you could have been a councilmen but now all is lost! Your real friends tried to warn you but you did not listen. You hurt good people for the sake of a convict. Now sadely it is time to pay the price. RIP ***************** End Of Article ****************** nope posted Message 10011 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 10:30:45 Subject: Re: Sean Connors : Do you think Sean Connors will still run for City Council???!? does he have a slate or does he have any pull in the heights? :::looks like he's another mc cann puppet, right up to the sleaze. mc cann for de facto heights councilman? no. won't happen. mc cann fronted sean and ruined him. thinks it's funny : : : What a shame, you could have been a councilmen but now all is lost! Your real friends tried to warn you but you did not listen. You hurt good people for the sake of a convict. Now sadely it is time to pay the price. RIP ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mayor Elect? posted Message 10012 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 10:50:33 Subject: Lie, Cheat & Steal So our Mayor elect's slogan is "Don't lie, cheat or steal" His staff does the dirty work for him, by putting Ray Manzo on the ballot, then Willie Flood, and more! What an ugly bunch of racists. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doubt it SERIOUSLY posted Message 10013 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 10:53:08 Subject: Sean Connors RIP : Still very popular in the Heights. Has got some hard decisions to make but still may be able to pull it off. Sean is only popular in his own mind. A lot of opinions changed about this guy this election. He showed his true colors and turned a lot of people off. He knows his butt is on the line either way. An internal campaign poll showed he has no traction, no one even in the Heights knew this guy. popular??? yeah right. In some circles they wish he would run, not only to clean his clock but to expose him for what he truly is. I hope the fool does run but even his own friends say he will not have the stomach after this election. His tearful denials were great Opera! He's a "dead man walking". RIP ***************** End Of Article ****************** Homos for Manzo posted Message 10014 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 10:54:33 Subject: 4 Time Loser Louie Oh please... you lost Manzo supporter.. Should we say lost for the 4th time! How about a 5th time? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Capt Cluess posted Message 10015 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 10:56:37 Subject: Re: Buddy D. a even better person to direct our next mayor :Take a look up on the photo of this page. It was Captain Cluess Carl Czplicki as well as Jr and Mariano! Amen to Bud D! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don't count him out yet. posted Message 10016 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 11:06:44 Subject: Re: Sean Connors I agree this last election didn't do anything to Sean's career but hurt it, but things can change. Everyone I spoke to has said that they feel bad for Sean, he made bad chioices, he got screwed, etc. but every one of them still say they will vote for him if he runs and I hope that he does. ***************** End Of Article ****************** He makes a point posted Message 10017 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 11:13:08 Subject: Re: 4 Time Loser Louie ::Name call all you want, you people are very good at it. The facts are, Ray Manzo was put on the ballot for the reason of the same last name, Tim Doyle pretended to be a Manzo supporter while telling the other side everything that was going on, Jimmy DICKson would do whatever he wanted in front of every and anyone because we all know who his father in law is and the one with the boxcutter to the throat thinks she is now hot $hit because she got to take part in something. The biggest shame is that Jerry Healy is a heck of a nice guy. That this is what surrounds him is a sin. : Oh please... you lost Manzo supporter.. Should we say lost for the 4th time! : How about a 5th time? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well, at least two of us will posted Message 10018 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 11:19:13 Subject: Re: Sean Connors ::Sean is not the type to crawl into the corner and cry. Great thing about Sean is that he is very capable of learning from his mistakes. I'm sure he will take stock. Needs to re-evaluate those that are truly there for him and those who want to ride his coat tails. He also needs to be a little more conservative in the direction he takes. : I agree this last election didn't do anything to Sean's career but hurt it, but things can change. Everyone I spoke to has said that they feel bad for Sean, he made bad chioices, he got screwed, etc. but every one of them still say they will vote for him if he runs and I hope that he does. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Deja Vu posted Message 10019 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 13:13:10 Subject: Re: 4 Time Loser Louie Its this way every time. Campaigns in Jersey City always bring out the worst in guerilla political tactics. Its always carried out by surrogates, and involvement is always denied by the candidates. Is it privately endorsed by the candidates? Sometimes yes...sometimes no. But when you bring on-board people like our ex-Mayor who has a history of voter supression and racist tactics .... well you get what you pay for. Manzo owes his Assembly seat to Cunningham. He never succeeded in winning a city-wide seat other than when he ran with Glenn. And he blew it when he turned to McCann to run his Assembly office and his campaign for mayor. Even if he runs again in the Spring...no one is going to forget those nasty pics McCann passed around. The final curtain on Manzo's political career is about to fall. Its too bad it ended this way. : ::Name call all you want, you people are very good at it. The facts are, Ray Manzo was put on the ballot for the reason of the same last name, Tim Doyle pretended to be a Manzo supporter while telling the other side everything that was going on, Jimmy DICKson would do whatever he wanted in front of every and anyone because we all know who his father in law is and the one with the boxcutter to the throat thinks she is now hot $hit because she got to take part in something. : The biggest shame is that Jerry Healy is a heck of a nice guy. That this is what surrounds him is a sin. : : Oh please... you lost Manzo supporter.. Should we say lost for the 4th time! : : How about a 5th time? ***************** End Of Article ****************** sean Mc Cann posted Message 10020 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 14:36:44 Subject: Re: Sean Connors : ::Sean is not the type to crawl into the corner and cry. Great thing about Sean is that he is very capable of learning from his mistakes. I'm sure he will take stock. Needs to re-evaluate those that are truly there for him and those who want to ride his coat tails. He also needs to be a little more conservative in the direction he takes. ::Sean thinks Mc Cann is the real deal. Mc Cann set him up and Sean is too dumb to realize it yet. : : I agree this last election didn't do anything to Sean's career but hurt it, but things can change. Everyone I spoke to has said that they feel bad for Sean, he made bad chioices, he got screwed, etc. but every one of them still say they will vote for him if he runs and I hope that he does. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Elizabeth posted Message 10021 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 15:37:54 Subject: Missing my friends Thanks to all the people I met doing the Mr. Manzo campaign it was great. I met wonderful people..... Even though he did not got elected it was a pleasured to work with him. To all of my friends at 66 Hutton Street. I'm going to missssss youuuu. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tuesday @ Noon posted Message 10022 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 15:40:15 Subject: Manzo to concede? Is there any truth to the rumor that Manzo will concede tomorrow @ 12 noon? ***************** End Of Article ****************** You don't have to miss us - we'll still be there. C'mon by see us! posted Message 10023 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 16:01:59 Subject: Re: Missing my friends : Thanks to all the people I met doing the Mr. Manzo campaign it was great. I met wonderful people..... Even though he did not got elected it was a pleasured to work with him. To all of my friends at 66 Hutton Street. I'm going to missssss youuuu. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Truth! posted Message 10024 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 16:36:18 Subject: NO!!!! No at 12 noon tomorrow Lou Manzo will come out of the closet with Danny the junkie at his side! ***************** End Of Article ****************** T bag posted Message 10025 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 17:41:20 Subject: Sandy Cunningham to make a run in May Sources close say she is making a deal with Smith and Flood to unite the African Americans against the HCDO ***************** End Of Article ****************** No concessions for His Millions posted Message 10026 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 18:00:30 Subject: Re: NO!!!! : No at 12 noon tomorrow Lou Manzo will come out of the closet with Danny the junkie at his side! He should not roll over as quickly as Kerry did, for his mil he deserves to be tottally humiliated. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward F Slap down posted Message 10027 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 18:08:17 Subject: Re: Sandy Cunningham to make a run in May : Sources close say she is making a deal with Smith and Flood to unite the African Americans against the HCDO I hope she runs, we will clean her clocks as many of Glenn's troops hated her more than Harvey! She is no Glenn Cunningham ***************** End Of Article ****************** RAY MANZO DROPPED OUT BECAUSE HEALY ASKED HIM TO!!! posted Message 10028 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 18:08:32 Subject: Re: 4 Time Loser Louie : ::Name call all you want, you people are very good at it. The facts are, Ray Manzo was put on the ballot for the reason of the same last name, Tim Doyle pretended to be a Manzo supporter while telling the other side everything that was going on, Jimmy DICKson would do whatever he wanted in front of every and anyone because we all know who his father in law is and the one with the boxcutter to the throat thinks she is now hot $hit because she got to take part in something. : The biggest shame is that Jerry Healy is a heck of a nice guy. That this is what surrounds him is a sin. : : Oh please... you lost Manzo supporter.. Should we say lost for the 4th time! : : How about a 5th time? ::I met Mrs. Manzo at the HQ next to VInny's (God rest his bullet riddled soul) I was mad when she said her son had dropped out of the race as we all remember when Al Sr. ran against Louie in the Mayoral run off (when McCann went to Jail) and it cost Louie the elction. We were all very lucky as JC turned the corner when S was in and we gained respect for throwing out the crooks. The Mrs. Manzo said that Jerry Healy asked him to drop out as he didn't want LOuie and McCann to say we cheated the people again by confusion ala Florida. LOuie better find a new whose (oops) to put his money on for he is finiished in J.C. Maybe he should run in Ocean Grove or Asbury Park or Bradley Beach where he keeps his "summmere residences. ***************** End Of Article ****************** A BIG MAN posted Message 10029 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 19:25:55 Subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE MANZO PEOPLE HA HA HA!! : : HEY ARE ALL THE MANZO PEOPLE OUT OF TOWN . : ::::::No, they're at your sister's. they are buying clothes,a shot glass and a tape measurement for healy :D ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 10030 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 20:25:03 Subject: thanks to manzo thanks to manzo my stock in tissue went up three pionts thank you guys keep up the crying so i can make more money on my stock ***************** End Of Article ****************** Billie Rodolfo from HHS is sad ward D was for MANZO posted Message 10031 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 21:53:50 Subject: Re: thanks to manzo : thanks to manzo my stock in tissue went up three pionts thank you guys keep up the crying so i can make more money on my stock VISIT HAHAHA.MANZO.NET RODOLFO IS REALLY SAD, BILLIE O'DEA IS HAPPY PAYBACK TIME,MCKLAN IS GONE RON IS WAITING JAIL TIME,MCMANN HAS HIS MAN BACK FULL TIME PREPARE LOU YOUR BACK,THE BOYS FROM RECREATION ARE BAD AND MAD,INCENATOR DEPT.IS HOT,PUBLIC WORK MANZO BOYS ARE WAK,MUA MANZO GALS ARE FLUSH ......... IN GENERAL ALL THE LOWLIFES ARE DONE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sean Connors posted Message 10032 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 22:21:21 Subject: Re: Sean Connors : : ::Sean is not the type to crawl into the corner and cry. Great thing about Sean is that he is very capable of learning from his mistakes. I'm sure he will take stock. Needs to re-evaluate those that are truly there for him and those who want to ride his coat tails. He also needs to be a little more conservative in the direction he takes. : ::Sean thinks Mc Cann is the real deal. Mc Cann set him up and Sean is too dumb to realize it yet. : : : : I agree this last election didn't do anything to Sean's career but hurt it, but things can change. Everyone I spoke to has said that they feel bad for Sean, he made bad chioices, he got screwed, etc. but every one of them still say they will vote for him if he runs and I hope that he does. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Chef posted Message 10033 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 08, 2004 at 23:30:26 Subject: Sandy GO Bake a Cake A sad day for JC if she does that. : Sources close say she is making a deal with Smith and Flood to unite the African Americans against the HCDO ***************** End Of Article ****************** Blacks need not apply posted Message 10034 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 07:04:52 Subject: For Mayor of Jersey city-HCDO has spoken Wake up Ward F,you been had. ***************** End Of Article ****************** United blacks can win Mayor seat posted Message 10035 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 07:31:19 Subject: If they Done sellout to the HCDO But Porky Pig Menendez wont let them Unite.Its up to the UTN to do right by Ward F. Set us free from the HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I beg to differ, Moron posted Message 10036 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 07:59:58 Subject: Re: thanks to manzo No you see, you seem to think that Jerry Healy is going to come in and destroy all the people who worked for Manzo...You insult him with your comments because that is not the way he operates. He is a stand-up guy with integrity and not looking to make enemies, but to bring peace back to the Democratic Party and unity back to Jersey City. He will not hurt people because of their political affiliation, especially because will be running again in May. Not that he needs their help because he is a sure winner anyway, but the more people he brings into the fold, the more he can get done for the City. Incinerator, MUA, DPW...all of those people will be brought on board and will see the light that the best man won the race. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Back of the Bus posted Message 10037 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 08:04:22 Subject: HCDO want Blacks in the back of the Bus Throw a few bones to the so called Black leaders and that will do it.Never a black Mayor in jersey City again thanks to the HCDO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lie Cheat Steal posted Message 10038 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 08:14:26 Subject: Provisional Ballots If over 8,000 provisional ballots are not counted, what is wrong with our system? This is a disgrace. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McCAnns a winner posted Message 10039 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 08:24:50 Subject: Re: Sandy GO Bake a Cake : A sad day for JC if she does that. : : Sources close say she is making a deal with Smith and Flood to unite the African Americans against the HCDO In all polls you should realize that even McCann who was hated could beat Glen Cunningham. Glenn was not Black as racist looking to rile up the homies might wish to ignore. Glenn was an outstanding person, who was purer of heart than most polityicians you will ever meet in your lifetime. Glenn's goodness passed not only color barriers among the whites, but political affiliations also. Glenn was Jersey City and brought the city back to the people of Jersey City, Healy is the same. He will win easily in May as the money and political animals will need to jump on. He did this without African American support, Jersey City political/city workers. TThe more people who meet this guy will know we are vback in the hands of goodness again. Ps I still miss Glenn Cunningham and my heart goes out to Sondra who's husband s memory must be dragged through the gutteerr for thier own benefit. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Come Back Home posted Message 10040 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 08:53:47 Subject: Tom Gaynor -you got five months to come home to JC Tom Gaynor for Mayor Committee 2005. We need you more then Avon By The Sea. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10041 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 09:04:08 Subject: Uncle Harvey is the one who sold out the black community. He knew he wasn't the best candidate for Mayor. He's so dumb he was in the seat and still lost. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 10042 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 09:07:56 Subject: Whoever is posting this HCDO racist bull$hit needs to watch it. We will need the black community if we want to win in May. Don't be an ass-hole. You are messing things up. Don't be a racist. ***************** End Of Article ****************** For Sale posted Message 10043 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 09:12:51 Subject: How much will it cost the HCDO to buy the black community That will be up to the UTN.The price has to be right. As always. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BC posted Message 10044 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 09:19:53 Subject: We can't be bought. : That will be up to the UTN.The price has to be right. As always. ***************** End Of Article ****************** KingKong posted Message 10045 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 09:24:35 Subject: Re: Yeh but not Rodolfos : No you see, you seem to think that Jerry Healy is going to come in and destroy all the people who worked for Manzo...You insult him with your comments because that is not the way he operates. He is a stand-up guy with integrity and not looking to make enemies, but to bring peace back to the Democratic Party and unity back to Jersey City. He will not hurt people because of their political affiliation, especially because will be running again in May. Not that he needs their help because he is a sure winner anyway, but the more people he brings into the fold, the more he can get done for the City. Incinerator, MUA, DPW...all of those people will be brought on board and will see the light that the best man won the race. And a few others ***************** End Of Article ****************** TCT posted Message 10046 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 09:28:34 Subject: Say what you wish now. Watch how the tables turn in May. Time will tell. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Good that gives me 5 months to sell get the hell out posted Message 10047 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 09:32:03 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor -you got five months to come home to JC : Tom Gaynor for Mayor Committee 2005. We need you more then Avon By The Sea. ***************** End Of Article ****************** #1 Supporter posted Message 10048 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 09:32:48 Subject: Don't worry Mrs.Flood we know what happened. Now that uncle Harvey is DEAD the black community will really show up. Don't worry. If you run in May you will definitely win, if they don't pay another brother to split YOUR votes. You hear me Gadsen, Baskerville, Uncle Harvey. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Porky Pig still Owns Uncle Harvey posted Message 10049 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 09:46:07 Subject: He will never come back to the Black Community Jersey City will rule with the White Man in charge-HCDO forever. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward F posted Message 10050 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 09:48:46 Subject: He Can't come back. He still owes people money. Plus, WE don't want his Uncle Tom a$$ anyway. BE GONE!!!! : Jersey City will rule with the White Man in charge-HCDO forever. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10051 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 10:21:12 Subject: Billy R. Word is that Billy R. attacked one of Healy's female workers during the capaign. He and his crew physically attacked her. What a manly man he is better a girly girl. You will pay for this. He sold out big time Louie M. Some people say he was near suicidal when he lost. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10052 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 10:21:38 Subject: Had Uncle Harvey won. There would have been a surge of drug dealers working at City hall. Not the decent people of ward F. He hired Arnold "the ROACH" Williams for pete's sake. I'm glad he lost. He was a poor rep for the black community. Go Willie!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10053 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 10:26:40 Subject: Had Frooty Lou won there would have been a surge of crooked developers getting NO BID contracts. That's why he is so upset. He spent 4 mil and still lost. Time for another trip to the crazyhouse. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McManzo is Dead posted Message 10054 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 10:34:24 Subject: Re: Provisional Ballots : If over 8,000 provisional ballots are not counted, what is wrong with our system? This is a disgrace. No the real question is why were people from the Manzo faction showing up wioth Fake ID and then being caught! So bad that McCann had to show up at various polling places to make sure his plans were in place! Typical people sayng they were someone they were not, like Manzo saying he is an enviromentalist and leader then he pastes the city full of his signs and keeps a convicted felon by his side for advice! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10055 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 10:35:52 Subject: Willie Flood owns Ward F. Whoever is the Mayor needs her in May. Let's not forget she got 10000 votes against 3 elected officials. ***************** End Of Article ****************** United Front posted Message 10056 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 10:36:17 Subject: Can beat Porky Pig & HCDO Time for a meeting of the minds at the New Deal Restaurant. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10057 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 10:41:00 Subject: If they don't pay another black sellout to run Willie will win. : Time for a meeting of the minds at the New Deal Restaurant. ***************** End Of Article ****************** They can't afford her to win. posted Message 10058 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 10:44:00 Subject: That's true but you know they will pay someone else to run if she runs. : : Time for a meeting of the minds at the New Deal Restaurant. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Laughing at you!!! posted Message 10059 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 10:49:31 Subject: HA HA LOUIE!! You LOSER! You thought you were going to buy this election didn't you? All that money. WASTED!!!!!! You idiot!! All those letters trying to be on people's side got you nowhere. Nobody trusts you. Pack your $hit and go to Somerset or the shore. We don't want U!!!!!1 ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Healy supporters on this board are why I didn't vote for Healy. Healy is a stand up guy but his supporters are a bunch of creeps. posted Message 10060 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 10:57:05 Subject: Re: HA HA LOUIE!! You LOSER! You thought you were going to buy this election didn't you? All that money. WASTED!!!!!! ::There is also a saying that "Pride goeth before a fall". So keep on gloating and talking the trash. People will realize that Jerry is a nice person surrounded by garbage. : You idiot!! All those letters trying to be on people's side got you nowhere. Nobody trusts you. Pack your $hit and go to Somerset or the shore. We don't want U!!!!!1 ***************** End Of Article ****************** 29 School posted Message 10061 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 10:59:04 Subject: Hey Harvey where's your reatrted looking son and that 4 eyed pimple faced skank daughter that likes to call the cops at now? Yeah. Payback's a beeatch!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!! BABY!! posted Message 10062 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 11:00:55 Subject: Nice try LOSER LOU!! We don't but it. : ::There is also a saying that "Pride goeth before a fall". So keep on gloating and talking the trash. People will realize that Jerry is a nice person surrounded by garbage. : : You idiot!! All those letters trying to be on people's side got you nowhere. Nobody trusts you. Pack your $hit and go to Somerset or the shore. We don't want U!!!!!1 ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know them. posted Message 10063 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 11:02:55 Subject: Well, he has his ostritch neck in the ground and she is looking for a job. : Yeah. Payback's a beeatch!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Robert Spencer posted Message 10064 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 11:05:40 Subject: HaHaHealy photos I am doing research for a political science paper about the press going too far in political campaigns...I cannot find the photos since HaHaHealy.com is off-line..Could someone send me copy of the photos/any press you have on it..Thanks ***************** End Of Article ****************** Drunk -O-Meter posted Message 10065 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 11:07:28 Subject: McCann wants a drunk- O- Meter installed at City Hall What a great idea.Six to eight beers a day should be the limit. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL LOL LOL LOL posted Message 10066 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 11:11:07 Subject: McCan't desn't have any power to WANT anything. : What a great idea.Six to eight beers a day should be the limit. ***************** End Of Article ****************** take doxon posted Message 10067 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 11:13:58 Subject: Re: HA HA LOUIE!! You LOSER! You thought you were going to buy this election didn't you? All that money. WASTED!!!!!! : ::There is also a saying that "Pride goeth before a fall". So keep on gloating and talking the trash. People will realize that Jerry is a nice person surrounded by garbage. ::::Take Jimmy, "do you know who I am, officer", Dixon. Creeping closer and closer to decent people. Father in law in denial. Dixon costs votes, period. He's a parrot who repeats everything father in law says. : : You idiot!! All those letters trying to be on people's side got you nowhere. Nobody trusts you. Pack your $hit and go to Somerset or the shore. We don't want U!!!!!1 ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL LOL LOO posted Message 10068 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 11:14:16 Subject: Call 1800 Gerry McCann : I am doing research for a political science paper about the press going too far in political campaigns...I cannot find the photos since HaHaHealy.com is off-line..Could someone send me copy of the photos/any press you have on it..Thanks ***************** End Of Article ****************** dreaming posted Message 10069 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 11:15:31 Subject: Re: Billy R. : Word is that Billy R. attacked one of Healy's female workers during the capaign. He and his crew physically attacked her. What a manly man he is better a girly girl. You will pay for this. He sold out big time Louie M. Some people say he was near suicidal when he lost. you are dreaming, Billy R is a gentleman, but we all know about that female you are talking about TRASH!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Dwayne posted Message 10070 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 11:25:10 Subject: Re: HaHaHealy photos : I am doing research for a political science paper about the press going too far in political campaigns...I cannot find the photos since HaHaHealy.com is off-line..Could someone send me copy of the photos/any press you have on it..Thanks I see all kinds of stuff in the 2004 special election section over at the left. ***************** End Of Article ****************** This just in... posted Message 10071 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 11:32:58 Subject: Election LAWSUITS! This jus in! There are so many lawsuits regarding the outcome of this election, that we can't expect the outcome to be known until at least JUNE! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Standing Ovation posted Message 10072 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 11:51:15 Subject: Did you see Senator Kenny giving McGreevey a standing ovation? Hudson County Loves Corruption.Just ask the HCDO Leaders.Lets go Harvey Smith for Mayor of jersey City in May. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ron c posted Message 10073 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 11:55:24 Subject: this just in manzo loses bye 2600 votes so stop the crying and go home to your lover you are a four time loser ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward F is the only Loser posted Message 10074 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:07:00 Subject: Sold out by the HCDO We will never forget.Pay back time will be coming soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reality posted Message 10075 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:10:10 Subject: Actually we didn't lose. Mrs. Flood won ward F so at least we have a voice. Healy knows he needs ward F to pull it off. If we don't get treated fairly we will have a candidate in May. And you know who that is. : We will never forget.Pay back time will be coming soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Remember this? posted Message 10076 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:13:29 Subject: Manzo & McCann Perfect together. Loser!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** but with the people that surround Healy it will be difficult posted Message 10077 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:15:21 Subject: Some people would like the healing to begin Many of us, no matter who we supported, no matter what our views have accepted what is. But there seems to be those who are going to continue the with the childish accusations that have made this board a cyber equivalent of "Jokes for the John". How does anyone expect Healy to prove himself a man of honesty and integrity when all one needs to do is read the trash that his so-called supporters are continuously posting? These people need to borrow a page from Healy's book and take the high road. ***************** End Of Article ****************** BRIBES posted Message 10078 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:25:15 Subject: Are you saying that if you get something from the HCDO You will support them Willie Flood people.Just like we said,you all can be bought for a dime. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey Smith for Mayor IN 2005 posted Message 10079 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:27:37 Subject: He cant be bought off by the HCDO He is the clear choice in Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10080 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:30:28 Subject: It's not about bribes it is about the good of the people. : You will support them Willie Flood people.Just like we said,you all can be bought for a dime. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10081 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:32:11 Subject: That's not what the numbers say. He didn't even pay his people. The Dominicans hate him now too. Clear to who? : He is the clear choice in Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Insider. posted Message 10082 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:34:08 Subject: He was already paid by them. Harvey nobody wants you and nobody believes your rhetoric. Go run away and leave Ward F alone. We HATE you!!!! : He is the clear choice in Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie Flood wants the people to have a voice. posted Message 10083 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:36:37 Subject: It's no secret. People in ward F need jobs. They are the first recruited to work on campaigns but the last to get jobs. : : You will support them Willie Flood people.Just like we said,you all can be bought for a dime. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ward F posted Message 10084 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:38:02 Subject: Yeah!!! Go to HELL Uncle Harvey!!! : : He is the clear choice in Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10085 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:39:50 Subject: Hey Harvey, is your son Kip Smith still killing drug dealers in boched robberies? : He is the clear choice in Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10086 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:42:00 Subject: After he lost he cancelled all the accounts for the hispanics. : Clear to who? : : He is the clear choice in Ward F. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Smile Air Head posted Message 10087 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:42:03 Subject: Flood is all set to smile straight to the HCDO bank Fooled again by sellout Willie Flood and gang. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10088 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:45:49 Subject: We unlike the other camps are working for the people. Not for ourselves. If the HCDO treats minorities correctly I would try to work things out too. Don't worry we know the truth Mrs.Flood. : Fooled again by sellout Willie Flood and gang. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10089 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:49:18 Subject: Uncle Harvey left his people out to dry just like we said he would. The termination letters went out!!!! He's a sore loser. Now that he lost he dosen't want to pay anybody. Rumor has it that he's heading to N.C. ***************** End Of Article ****************** high road posted Message 10090 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 12:54:42 Subject: Re: Some people would like the healing to begin : Many of us, no matter who we supported, no matter what our views have accepted what is. : But there seems to be those who are going to continue the with the childish accusations that have made this board a cyber equivalent of "Jokes for the John". : How does anyone expect Healy to prove himself a man of honesty and integrity when all one needs to do is read the trash that his so-called supporters are continuously posting? : These people need to borrow a page from Healy's book and take the high road. :::Dixon on a high road? Are you talking about driving? He could do chinups on a curb. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cooton Picker posted Message 10091 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 14:15:06 Subject: Re: Uncle Harvey & Ely Whitney! Rumor has it that he's heading to N.C. Uncle Harvey is go'in to NC to pick Cotton! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I doubt it posted Message 10092 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 14:16:59 Subject: Uncle Lenny H Please.. he's still on the county teat for $80Gs as Under sheriff. He's looking for his next meal ***************** End Of Article ****************** We heard he is... posted Message 10093 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 14:20:09 Subject: Is Loony Lou Conceeding today? We heard Lou is conceeding today, any truth? ***************** End Of Article ****************** You alleged Healy supporters need to get a life. You are all obsessed. posted Message 10094 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 14:21:10 Subject: Re: Is Loony Lou Conceeding today? : We heard Lou is conceeding today, any truth? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Old Man Kenny was a crook posted Message 10095 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 14:21:35 Subject: Re: Did you see Senator Kenny giving McGreevey a standing ovation? Yeah, so? Kenny got to where he was because his father took the fall in a corruption case. The old man went to jail and the deal made was they would take care of the "boy" by sending him to law school. He's used to standing up for corruption, standing up and applauding! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Catch on film posted Message 10096 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 14:43:14 Subject: What are we doing tonight Nutsy? Manzo: What are we doing tonight Nutsy McCann? Nutsy: "Like we do every night Louie, take over the world!" http://www.cupojo.net/1images/patbrain.jpg ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr. professor posted Message 10097 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:01:41 Subject: Re: HaHaHealy photos There's a place you can find all sorts of press clippings and stuff, although you may have been so busy with your research that you may not have ever heard of it, Mr. R. Scientist. It's called a LIBRARY. ***************** End Of Article ****************** jay posted Message 10098 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:08:03 Subject: Re: What are we doing tonight Nutsy? thats 2 funny. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 10099 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:20:55 Subject: Re: What are we doing tonight Nutsy? :::You like those cartoon pictures right baby? Only thing - who read the words to you? : thats 2 funny. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ? posted Message 10100 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:27:24 Subject: Healy's choice for police chief I heard Craig Guy is out, who will it be? ***************** End Of Article ****************** chief posted Message 10101 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:31:47 Subject: Re: Healy's choice for police chief : I heard Craig Guy is out, who will it be? :::::Jimmy Dixon. He knows the drill ***************** End Of Article ****************** wyatt earp posted Message 10102 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:35:43 Subject: Re: Healy's choice for police chief : : I heard Craig Guy is out, who will it be? : :::::Jimmy Dixon. He knows the drill :::::Gaughan, so he can keep his family out of jail. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 10103 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:40:14 Subject: Nobody's going to get anything if we keep fighting. The ones who are hurting are the people. Stop the negativity and lets work together for a better JC! We all have to deal with the results. Healy won. That's it. If you don't like it then there is another election in May. Make your point. ***************** End Of Article ****************** AKA The Cunningham Backstabbers posted Message 10104 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:43:29 Subject: The Cunningham Team sold out the Black Community to the HCDO for personal gain : We all have to deal with the results. Healy won. That's it. If you don't like it then there is another election in May. Make your point. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team. posted Message 10105 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:46:03 Subject: Can you back this statement up with facts? Or is this just more useless accusations. : : We all have to deal with the results. Healy won. That's it. If you don't like it then there is another election in May. Make your point. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Cunningham Backstabbers posted Message 10106 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:47:57 Subject: Uncle Joe and Uncle Bobby and Aunt Willie all with Healy and DeGise and Gaughan : : : We all have to deal with the results. Healy won. That's it. If you don't like it then there is another election in May. Make your point. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10107 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:48:38 Subject: See, It's people like you who mess things up for everyone. Keep the negativity to yourself Mrs. Smith. This is EXACTLY why harvey didn't win. : : We all have to deal with the results. Healy won. That's it. If you don't like it then there is another election in May. Make your point. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ?????? posted Message 10108 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:49:57 Subject: And your point is? : : : : We all have to deal with the results. Healy won. That's it. If you don't like it then there is another election in May. Make your point. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Cunningham Team posted Message 10109 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:52:29 Subject: Even though we lost we are still trying to make sure the minorities get their fair share. So how is that backstabbing? We are trying to help the people. Unlike u. : We all have to deal with the results. Healy won. That's it. If you don't like it then there is another election in May. Make your point. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Insider posted Message 10110 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 15:57:11 Subject: Say what u want. Harvey still works for the county. So who's the Uncle Tom? : : : : We all have to deal with the results. Healy won. That's it. If you don't like it then there is another election in May. Make your point. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Nah posted Message 10111 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 16:12:07 Subject: Re: Healy's choice for police chief :::Jimmy would be better Fire Chief. He already has the tricycle & little red wagon. We just have to get him the hat. : : I heard Craig Guy is out, who will it be? : :::::Jimmy Dixon. He knows the drill ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Watcher posted Message 10112 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 16:13:12 Subject: 11 Candidates in the election and Uncle harvey attacked the only credible Black candidate. Why? So who's the Uncle Tom. He's scared of anybody else. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reality posted Message 10113 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 16:20:19 Subject: Where was Uncle harvey when they were challenging all the votes in ward F? He said nothing. So again who is the uncle tom? Come on man you know Mrs Flood is for the people. All you wanted was a little power. Now you have nothing. Bastard!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Beat It!!!!!!!!!! posted Message 10114 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 16:22:16 Subject: You are washed up. Go to NC and HIDE like the PU$$Y you are!! : Come on man you know Mrs Flood is for the people. All you wanted was a little power. Now you have nothing. Bastard!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** NJ Senate Democrats posted Message 10115 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 16:58:28 Subject: KENNY CITES TAX RELIEF FOR WEEHAWKEN AND GUTTENBERG FOR RELEASE: Immediate Nov. 9, 2004 CONTACT: Jim Manion Tel: (609) 292-5215 KENNY CITES TAX RELIEF FOR WEEHAWKEN AND GUTTENBERG TRENTON - Senate Majority Leader Bernard F. Kenny Jr. today said the Extraordinary Aid Grants of $900,000 for Weehawken and $250,000 for Guttenberg will help ease the property tax burdens for residents of the two Hudson County communities. "The awarding of these grants means the State believes that Weehawken and Guttenberg are making good efforts to contain property taxes, but still face unforeseen budgetary problems which are beyond their control," said Senator Kenny. The Hudson County Democratic Senator said the Extraordinary Aid Program, administered by the Division of Local Government Services, approves grants to applicants who demonstrate that they have attempted to implement property tax savings, but still face additional need for tax relief. "These grants will provide some much-need relief to property taxpayers in Weehawken and Guttenberg," Senator Kenny said. "Both communities have a right to be proud that their applications were approved." # ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amazing posted Message 10116 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 17:13:05 Subject: CHECK OUT THIS LINK REGARDING SEQUOIA VOTING MACHINE LAWSUIT IN NJ http://www.eff.org/Activism/E-voting/20041021_NJ_complaint.pdf ***************** End Of Article ****************** 200,000 Healy Photos all over posted Message 10117 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 17:32:55 Subject: Re: HaHaHealy photos : There's a place you can find all sorts of press clippings and stuff, although you may have been so busy with your research that you may not have ever heard of it, Mr. R. Scientist. It's called a LIBRARY. R Spemncer therew were over 200,000 of these posted plastered over tyhe city over the last 6 weeks of the election, Starting from the time McCann got his relatives in law to run the NYTIMES STory (I'ver since cancelled my subscription and get my trash news while standing online at SHop Rite. I now hear MCCAnn has pictures of Healy beating a hispanic with a basebakk bat at a Municipal Softball game while drunk; way to go Gerky McCann Some day you'll get a chance running and stealing from the people once again maybe at Mocco's nursing Home where you and Valerie stole the absentee ballots. ***************** End Of Article ****************** frankiedank posted Message 10118 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 20:54:08 Subject: Re: HaHaHealy photos : : There's a place you can find all sorts of press clippings and stuff, although you may have been so busy with your research that you may not have ever heard of it, Mr. R. Scientist. It's called a LIBRARY. : R Spemncer therew were over 200,000 of these posted plastered over tyhe city over the last 6 weeks of the election, Starting from the time McCann got his relatives in law to run the NYTIMES STory (I'ver since cancelled my subscription and get my trash news while standing online at SHop Rite. I now hear MCCAnn has pictures of Healy beating a hispanic with a basebakk bat at a Municipal Softball game while drunk; way to go Gerky McCann : Some day you'll get a chance running and stealing from the people once again maybe at Mocco's nursing Home where you and Valerie stole the absentee ballots. If McCann does have photos of that then he should turn them over to the police and have Healy arrested. AMAZING..... this man is a judge and not yet confirmed mayor and you are attacking McCann. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just a Winner posted Message 10119 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 21:19:58 Subject: We're not obsessed...we're the WINNERS!!! And as far as I can tell..that makes YOU and LOU the LOSERS. SO deal with it. : : We heard Lou is conceeding today, any truth? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stupidity! posted Message 10120 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 23:17:02 Subject: Manzo to run again This really sums up Louie! www.manzoformayor.com ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 10121 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 09, 2004 at 23:58:36 Subject: The Cunningham Legacy in action One need only look at the posts in this forum to understand how bankrupt the Cunningham organization was. Once Glenn the meal ticket was dead, it was every Cunningham rat for themselves. Now we have the spectacle of Mrs. Cunningham, Jackson, Cardwell, Flood, Drayton, etal. scuffling to grab whatever they can from the political trough. It's really pathetic. But that's life in Jersey City. Glenn had his fifteen minutes of fame. Now it's back into the toilet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Say what you want - that you you continue to post in the same malicious manner that you had during the whole campaign tells me that you are a bunch of DIRTBAG LOSERS riding on the coattails of a decent man. This makes you no better than those you rag on in here. posted Message 10122 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 06:36:31 Subject: Re: We're not obsessed...we're the WINNERS!!! :::Pride goeth before the fall. You are no better than the people you insult. You better make your words sweet, someday you may have to eat them. : And as far as I can tell..that makes YOU and LOU the LOSERS. SO deal with it. : : : We heard Lou is conceeding today, any truth? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Glenn is stirring in his grave posted Message 10123 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 08:05:56 Subject: The Sage Flood, Cardwell, Hackson and Sandie are making deals with the very people HCDO that gave Mrs. C's husband such a hard time. Porky Pig and his crew must be salivating now that you are kissing up to him. Doo you think that Bobby M. will forget the personal attacks that you published in the that trash paper the UTN Mr. Jackson. You are either stupid or politically naive. Payback is a medevac Cardwell and Jackson. You have maligned the HCDO leadership and now you expect favors, you sellouts abandone Ward F like rats on a sinking ship. ***************** End Of Article ****************** In the Know posted Message 10124 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 08:10:47 Subject: Re: Healy's choice for police chief Bobby Troy will be Chief, a great guy too. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ray Manzo Willie posted Message 10125 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 08:16:28 Subject: Want A Job At City Hall? Thank you so much for your...help. I'm sure we'll see you in the new administration! ***************** End Of Article ****************** You heard it here first posted Message 10126 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 08:39:43 Subject: Next City Council and State Assembly The line up that would make peace... the next city council and the next assembly for 31st.. you watch how this shakes out.. if the same tired dogs run for the most part on healy's council he is done... some of them are terrible.. need a mix. let me hear some feedback on this line up --- I think this works Brennan - Ward A Phil Kenny - Ward B Lipski- Ward C Carroll Ward D Fulop - Ward E Kabili - Ward F Flood - At large Vega - At large One more Hispanic at Large the next assemblyman Junior Maldonado Sandra Cunningham?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** touter posted Message 10127 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 08:58:53 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly : The line up that would make peace... the next city council and the next assembly for 31st.. you watch how this shakes out.. if the same tired dogs run for the most part on healy's council he is done... some of them are terrible.. need a mix. let me hear some feedback on this line up --- I think this works : Brennan - Ward A : Phil Kenny - Ward B : Lipski- Ward C : Carroll Ward D : Fulop - Ward E : Kabili - Ward F : Flood - At large : Vega - At large : One more Hispanic at Large : the next assemblyman : Junior Maldonado : Sandra Cunningham?? ::::Gaughan says he can bring in ward d for Jimmy Dixon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** On the erie posted Message 10128 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 09:04:55 Subject: Jim Kennelly to replace Stan Eason One view is Jim Kennelly will replace Stan Eason as Director of Communications for the city. Then, the story goes, Brian Dorf will return to the county to assume Kennelly's role. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Zeek the Greek posted Message 10129 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 09:07:15 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly In the Democratic primary for gov, Gaughan will back Codey and Degise will go with Corzine. In the general election if Schundler is in then Degise will back Schundler and Gaughan will go with the Democrats. : The line up that would make peace... the next city council and the next assembly for 31st.. you watch how this shakes out.. if the same tired dogs run for the most part on healy's council he is done... some of them are terrible.. need a mix. let me hear some feedback on this line up --- I think this works : Brennan - Ward A : Phil Kenny - Ward B : Lipski- Ward C : Carroll Ward D : Fulop - Ward E : Kabili - Ward F : Flood - At large : Vega - At large : One more Hispanic at Large : the next assemblyman : Junior Maldonado : Sandra Cunningham?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** IN AGREEMENT posted Message 10130 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 09:11:51 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly I AGREE THAT THIS LINE-UP WOULD CREATE A MORE STABLE POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE. PHIL KENNY IS AN EXCELLENT CHOICE FOR WARD B COUNCILMAN AND WOULD SURELY SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THE WESTSIDE WARD WELL. HE IS A DOER, NOT A TALKER. ALSO, THERE IS DIVERSITY AND YOUNG BLOOD WITH CARROLL AND FULOP IN D & E RESPECTIVELY. I ONLY DISAGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT: ONE MORE HISPANIC AT LARGE...NOT NECESSARILY A HISPANIC...ASSIGNING ETHNICITY IS NOT NECESSARY. WHAT IS NECESSARY IS A GOOD CANDIDATE WHO WILL LOOK OUT FOR ALL HIS/HER CONSTITUENTS, BEING AT LARGE : : The line up that would make peace... the next city council and the next assembly for 31st.. you watch how this shakes out.. if the same tired dogs run for the most part on healy's council he is done... some of them are terrible.. need a mix. let me hear some feedback on this line up --- I think this works : : Brennan - Ward A : : Phil Kenny - Ward B : : Lipski- Ward C : : Carroll Ward D : : Fulop - Ward E : : Kabili - Ward F : : Flood - At large : : Vega - At large : : One more Hispanic at Large : : the next assemblyman : : Junior Maldonado : : Sandra Cunningham?? : ::::Gaughan says he can bring in ward d for Jimmy Dixon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Plato posted Message 10131 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 09:15:45 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly I agree with most of these selections, so you're on the right track. And I think Flood should be named Healy's replacement now as at-large. What other Hispanics are there for another at-large seat? Maybe Elba Perez Cincarelli? or Javier Inclan the County Clerk? : The line up that would make peace... the next city council and the next assembly for 31st.. you watch how this shakes out.. if the same tired dogs run for the most part on healy's council he is done... some of them are terrible.. need a mix. let me hear some feedback on this line up --- I think this works : Brennan - Ward A : Phil Kenny - Ward B : Lipski- Ward C : Carroll Ward D : Fulop - Ward E : Kabili - Ward F : Flood - At large : Vega - At large : One more Hispanic at Large : the next assemblyman : Junior Maldonado : Sandra Cunningham?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Also In Agreement posted Message 10132 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 09:24:11 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly ::: I too disagree with the One More Hispanic comment. Let's for once try to leave race out of it as difficult as it may be. The only other exception I take is Ward C - Steve Lipski. His performance has been less than stellar, also too willing to flip-flop. But since I don't live in Ward C, I cannot comment on who would be a suitable replacement. : I AGREE THAT THIS LINE-UP WOULD CREATE A MORE STABLE POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE. PHIL KENNY IS AN EXCELLENT CHOICE FOR WARD B COUNCILMAN AND WOULD SURELY SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THE WESTSIDE WARD WELL. HE IS A DOER, NOT A TALKER. ALSO, THERE IS DIVERSITY AND YOUNG BLOOD WITH CARROLL AND FULOP IN D & E RESPECTIVELY. I ONLY DISAGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT: ONE MORE HISPANIC AT LARGE...NOT NECESSARILY A HISPANIC...ASSIGNING ETHNICITY IS NOT NECESSARY. WHAT IS NECESSARY IS A GOOD CANDIDATE WHO WILL LOOK OUT FOR ALL HIS/HER CONSTITUENTS, BEING AT LARGE : : : : The line up that would make peace... the next city council and the next assembly for 31st.. you watch how this shakes out.. if the same tired dogs run for the most part on healy's council he is done... some of them are terrible.. need a mix. let me hear some feedback on this line up --- I think this works : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : Phil Kenny - Ward B : : : Lipski- Ward C : : : Carroll Ward D : : : Fulop - Ward E : : : Kabili - Ward F : : : Flood - At large : : : Vega - At large : : : One more Hispanic at Large : : : the next assemblyman : : : Junior Maldonado : : : Sandra Cunningham?? : : : ::::Gaughan says he can bring in ward d for Jimmy Dixon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ANOTHER COUPLE OF USELESS DO-NOTHINGS posted Message 10133 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 09:24:25 Subject: Re: Jim Kennelly to replace Stan Eason GOD HELP US! : One view is Jim Kennelly will replace Stan Eason as Director of Communications for the city. Then, the story goes, Brian Dorf will return to the county to assume Kennelly's role. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Wrong wrong wrong ! posted Message 10134 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 09:37:48 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly : : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : : Phil Kenny- Ward B : : : : Arnie Bettinger- Ward C : : : : Carroll Ward D : : : : Maldonado - Ward E : : : : Willie Flood- Ward F : : : : Michael Holloway - At large : : : : Vega - At large : : : : Czaplicki - at large : : : : the next assemblypersons : : : : Sandra Cunningham Pete Brennan : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Questionable posted Message 10135 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 09:39:42 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly Who is Phil Kenny and why not Mary Donnelly for Ward B??? I also don't think that Lipski will win Ward C again. I definitely don't see Flood getting a position as At Large...she has no support across the city. : The line up that would make peace... the next city council and the next assembly for 31st.. you watch how this shakes out.. if the same tired dogs run for the most part on healy's council he is done... some of them are terrible.. need a mix. let me hear some feedback on this line up --- I think this works : Brennan - Ward A : Phil Kenny - Ward B : Lipski- Ward C : Carroll Ward D : Fulop - Ward E : Kabili - Ward F : Flood - At large : Vega - At large : One more Hispanic at Large : the next assemblyman : Junior Maldonado : Sandra Cunningham?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Green-Eyed Devil posted Message 10136 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 09:52:43 Subject: Sour Grapes Obviously Kennelly and Dorf have proven their value in political circles. Kennelly with two admins. Dorf with five or six. And both have served under tough circumstances. Either one would be an asset to our city or county. At least they do their jobs, not just sit on their rears collecting a pay check like so many government employees who spend their days ripping people apart on this board. : GOD HELP US! : : One view is Jim Kennelly will replace Stan Eason as Director of Communications for the city. Then, the story goes, Brian Dorf will return to the county to assume Kennelly's role. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doctor Doctor posted Message 10137 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 09:58:21 Subject: GET HELP Your psychosis is showing. Get back on the Prozak before we have to talk you down off the Solomon Brother's Tower. : :::Pride goeth before the fall. You are no better than the people you insult. You better make your words sweet, someday you may have to eat them. : : And as far as I can tell..that makes YOU and LOU the LOSERS. SO deal with it. : : : : We heard Lou is conceeding today, any truth? ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 10138 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 10:05:37 Subject: MAYOR HEALY lets stop all the bull$hit and put healy in office and do his job so we can get jersey city back on track because it is a $hit hole and he needs to clean it up just let the judge do his job people we need it healy is going to do his best to clean up the streets and put more cops on the streets to make it safe for the people to live and walk in jersey city he can do it just give him time to deliver his job ***************** End Of Article ****************** tom posted Message 10139 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 10:10:36 Subject: pete brennan for state assemblyman pete brennan should run for state assemblyman for the 31th he can do a good job for jersey city ***************** End Of Article ****************** tom posted Message 10139 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 10:10:37 Subject: pete brennan for state assemblyman pete brennan should run for state assemblyman for the 31th he can do a good job for jersey city ***************** End Of Article ****************** PLEEEAAASSEEEE posted Message 10140 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 10:12:31 Subject: Re: Jim Kennelly to replace Stan Eason : One view is Jim Kennelly will replace Stan Eason as Director of Communications for the city. Then, the story goes, Brian Dorf will return to the county to assume Kennelly's role. Dorf was with Manzo. Kennelly won't be going anywhere! ***************** End Of Article ****************** dream team posted Message 10141 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 10:19:32 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly : :::The dream team as seen by Bill Gaughan: A-Briget Gaughan-Dixon B-Eileen Gaughan C-Jimmy Dixon D-Bill Gaughan ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soothsayer posted Message 10142 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 10:21:19 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly : Who is Phil Kenny and why not Mary Donnelly for Ward B??? Phil Kenny is a twinkel toed, limp wristed toady of Bill O'Dea who serves on Sweet Lou's Assembly Payroll and is also aide to O'Dea. Ok now you got that, you can make your own call as to his relationships with the two. Mary Donnelly is finsihed, she was with Smith and has made no overture of peace or remaining a councilwoman. Rumor was that she has been approached for another position she is considering. However the St Patrick's Day Committee are still confused. Parade Balloon's, unlike Macy's Thanksgiving Parade, are not allowed in their parade. They are however working out the details to allow Mary to get down the Blvd. As for Brennan, he is concerned he cannot win his ward council seat and wants to become council at large and fill Healy's seat. Look for Brennan to move up and a new comer from Ward A with a history of Political Blood to emerge. ***************** End Of Article ****************** CHANGE YOUR NAME posted Message 10143 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 10:43:00 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly THE NAME SOOTHSAYER DOES NOT FIT YOU AT ALL. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE ANYONE. A PERSON SHOULD BE JUDGED BY THEIR ACTIONS, NOT HOW THEY ARE "PERCEIVED" BY OTHERS. PHIL KENNY WOULD WORK FOR THE CONSITUENTS OF WARD B AND RESPOND TO THEIR CONCERNS, UNLIKE MARY DONNELLY WHO HAS BEEN A DO-NOTHING FROM THE GET-GO. : : Who is Phil Kenny and why not Mary Donnelly for Ward B??? : Phil Kenny is a twinkel toed, limp wristed toady of Bill O'Dea who serves on Sweet Lou's Assembly Payroll and is also aide to O'Dea. Ok now you got that, you can make your own call as to his relationships with the two. : Mary Donnelly is finsihed, she was with Smith and has made no overture of peace or remaining a councilwoman. Rumor was that she has been approached for another position she is considering. : However the St Patrick's Day Committee are still confused. Parade Balloon's, unlike Macy's Thanksgiving Parade, are not allowed in their parade. They are however working out the details to allow Mary to get down the Blvd. : As for Brennan, he is concerned he cannot win his ward council seat and wants to become council at large and fill Healy's seat. : Look for Brennan to move up and a new comer from Ward A with a history of Political Blood to emerge. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Thanks for the info posted Message 10144 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 10:45:40 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly What position was Donnelly approached for that she's considering? I still don't know enough about this Kenny fellow to have an opinion. I googled him and the only relavent thing that I found was that he was sec'y of the HCRDO. Also, who's the newcomer from Ward A? : Phil Kenny is a twinkel toed, limp wristed toady of Bill O'Dea who serves on Sweet Lou's Assembly Payroll and is also aide to O'Dea. Ok now you got that, you can make your own call as to his relationships with the two. : Mary Donnelly is finsihed, she was with Smith and has made no overture of peace or remaining a councilwoman. Rumor was that she has been approached for another position she is considering. : However the St Patrick's Day Committee are still confused. Parade Balloon's, unlike Macy's Thanksgiving Parade, are not allowed in their parade. They are however working out the details to allow Mary to get down the Blvd. : As for Brennan, he is concerned he cannot win his ward council seat and wants to become council at large and fill Healy's seat. : Look for Brennan to move up and a new comer from Ward A with a history of Political Blood to emerge. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I like Donnelly posted Message 10145 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 10:47:51 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly Mary's always been responsive to me and my neighborhood...I can't say anything bad about her except that she doens't speak up enough at the council caucuses and meetings. I wouldn't call her a "do-nothing"...but I do agree that she should be more proactive instead of reactive. All in all, she's okay by me. : THE NAME SOOTHSAYER DOES NOT FIT YOU AT ALL. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE ANYONE. A PERSON SHOULD BE JUDGED BY THEIR ACTIONS, NOT HOW THEY ARE "PERCEIVED" BY OTHERS. PHIL KENNY WOULD WORK FOR THE CONSITUENTS OF WARD B AND RESPOND TO THEIR CONCERNS, UNLIKE MARY DONNELLY WHO HAS BEEN A DO-NOTHING FROM THE GET-GO. : : : : Who is Phil Kenny and why not Mary Donnelly for Ward B??? : : Phil Kenny is a twinkel toed, limp wristed toady of Bill O'Dea who serves on Sweet Lou's Assembly Payroll and is also aide to O'Dea. Ok now you got that, you can make your own call as to his relationships with the two. : : Mary Donnelly is finsihed, she was with Smith and has made no overture of peace or remaining a councilwoman. Rumor was that she has been approached for another position she is considering. : : However the St Patrick's Day Committee are still confused. Parade Balloon's, unlike Macy's Thanksgiving Parade, are not allowed in their parade. They are however working out the details to allow Mary to get down the Blvd. : : As for Brennan, he is concerned he cannot win his ward council seat and wants to become council at large and fill Healy's seat. : : Look for Brennan to move up and a new comer from Ward A with a history of Political Blood to emerge. ***************** End Of Article ****************** From the Bleechers posted Message 10146 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 10:56:19 Subject: Re: Jim Kennelly to replace Stan Eason As I heard it Eason may stay put. Kennelly stays in the County. And Dorf didn't work for either campaign. Guess we'll have to wait and see. : : One view is Jim Kennelly will replace Stan Eason as Director of Communications for the city. Then, the story goes, Brian Dorf will return to the county to assume Kennelly's role. : Dorf was with Manzo. : Kennelly won't be going anywhere! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 10147 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 11:01:04 Subject: Great choice !!! Kennelly is a great guy !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 10148 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 11:10:33 Subject: Are you on drugs ?? Kabili, Lipski and Fulop ? A racist, a weasel and a Republican. Save us !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** I hate RACISTS posted Message 10149 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 11:27:57 Subject: N A Z I !!!!!! You probably have a swastika on your house!!! : One need only look at the posts in this forum to understand how bankrupt the Cunningham organization was. Once Glenn the meal ticket was dead, it was every Cunningham rat for themselves. : Now we have the spectacle of Mrs. Cunningham, Jackson, Cardwell, Flood, Drayton, etal. scuffling to grab whatever they can from the political trough. It's really pathetic. But that's life in Jersey City. : Glenn had his fifteen minutes of fame. Now it's back into the toilet. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Reality posted Message 10150 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 11:31:35 Subject: Sounds good!!!! I knew there wrere some reasonable people out there. : The line up that would make peace... the next city council and the next assembly for 31st.. you watch how this shakes out.. if the same tired dogs run for the most part on healy's council he is done... some of them are terrible.. need a mix. let me hear some feedback on this line up --- I think this works : Brennan - Ward A : Phil Kenny - Ward B : Lipski- Ward C : Carroll Ward D : Fulop - Ward E : Kabili - Ward F : Flood - At large : Vega - At large : One more Hispanic at Large : the next assemblyman : Junior Maldonado : Sandra Cunningham?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** And you should know, my friend posted Message 10151 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 11:53:16 Subject: Re: Great choice !!! : Kennelly is a great guy !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** And you should know, my friend posted Message 10152 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 11:53:20 Subject: Re: Great choice !!! : Kennelly is a great guy !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just say no! posted Message 10153 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 11:56:53 Subject: City Council Steve Lipski must go! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soothsayer posted Message 10154 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 12:06:43 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly That still makes Phil a twinkled toed, still a limp wristed O'Dea toady : : THE NAME SOOTHSAYER DOES NOT FIT YOU AT ALL. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE ANYONE. A PERSON SHOULD BE JUDGED BY THEIR ACTIONS, NOT HOW THEY ARE "PERCEIVED" BY OTHERS. PHIL KENNY WOULD WORK FOR THE CONSITUENTS OF WARD B AND RESPOND TO THEIR CONCERNS, UNLIKE MARY DONNELLY WHO HAS BEEN A DO-NOTHING FROM THE GET-GO. : : : : : : Who is Phil Kenny and why not Mary Donnelly for Ward B??? : : : Phil Kenny is a twinkel toed, limp wristed toady of Bill O'Dea who serves on Sweet Lou's Assembly Payroll and is also aide to O'Dea. Ok now you got that, you can make your own call as to his relationships with the two. : : : Mary Donnelly is finsihed, she was with Smith and has made no overture of peace or remaining a councilwoman. Rumor was that she has been approached for another position she is considering. : : : However the St Patrick's Day Committee are still confused. Parade Balloon's, unlike Macy's Thanksgiving Parade, are not allowed in their parade. They are however working out the details to allow Mary to get down the Blvd. : : : As for Brennan, he is concerned he cannot win his ward council seat and wants to become council at large and fill Healy's seat. : : : Look for Brennan to move up and a new comer from Ward A with a history of Political Blood to emerge. ***************** End Of Article ****************** C'mon now posted Message 10155 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 12:12:28 Subject: Re: Are you on drugs ?? :::This is balanced! All we need is a supremacist, a pig and a Democrat. :) : Kabili, Lipski and Fulop ? A racist, a weasel and a Republican. Save us !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GROW UP posted Message 10156 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 12:12:33 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly If you are trying to make a reference to Phil's persuasion, whatever it may be, what difference does that make in how he does the job of CouncilPerson or any job for that matter? It makes no difference!! GROW UP! A person should be elected to office based on his or her qualifications for the position and not denied or ridiculed because some people have prejudices or phobias. : That still makes Phil a twinkled toed, still a limp wristed O'Dea toady : : : : THE NAME SOOTHSAYER DOES NOT FIT YOU AT ALL. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE ANYONE. A PERSON SHOULD BE JUDGED BY THEIR ACTIONS, NOT HOW THEY ARE "PERCEIVED" BY OTHERS. PHIL KENNY WOULD WORK FOR THE CONSITUENTS OF WARD B AND RESPOND TO THEIR CONCERNS, UNLIKE MARY DONNELLY WHO HAS BEEN A DO-NOTHING FROM THE GET-GO. : : : : : : : : Who is Phil Kenny and why not Mary Donnelly for Ward B??? : : : : Phil Kenny is a twinkel toed, limp wristed toady of Bill O'Dea who serves on Sweet Lou's Assembly Payroll and is also aide to O'Dea. Ok now you got that, you can make your own call as to his relationships with the two. : : : : Mary Donnelly is finsihed, she was with Smith and has made no overture of peace or remaining a councilwoman. Rumor was that she has been approached for another position she is considering. : : : : However the St Patrick's Day Committee are still confused. Parade Balloon's, unlike Macy's Thanksgiving Parade, are not allowed in their parade. They are however working out the details to allow Mary to get down the Blvd. : : : : As for Brennan, he is concerned he cannot win his ward council seat and wants to become council at large and fill Healy's seat. : : : : Look for Brennan to move up and a new comer from Ward A with a history of Political Blood to emerge. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Some quick! posted Message 10157 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 12:16:49 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly : : Get me a gun, I'm gonna kill myself!!!!! : :::The dream team as seen by Bill Gaughan: A-Briget Gaughan-Dixon : B-Eileen Gaughan : C-Jimmy Dixon : D-Bill Gaughan : : : ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Lou-ser! posted Message 10158 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 14:19:12 Subject: Surrender! Surrender Louie, you lost, for the 4th time, deal with it! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10159 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 14:34:46 Subject: Inept Administrator One J.C. administrator that is inept and incompetent that has been living a protected life is Health officer J. Castagna.He is lazy and a do nothing. He is rarely in his office and on occasion you could see in Marion section hanging out. He feels he is untouchable but the new administration has plans for his departure. He is a strong supporter of Mc Klan's defamation of the present Mayor and a proponent of dirty politics. I guess you will not be Director of HHS now that Lou has lost the election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10160 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 14:34:50 Subject: Inept Administrator One J.C. administrator that is inept and incompetent that has been living a protected life is Health officer J. Castagna.He is lazy and a do nothing. He is rarely in his office and on occasion you could see in Marion section hanging out. He feels he is untouchable but the new administration has plans for his departure. He is a strong supporter of Mc Klan's defamation of the present Mayor and a proponent of dirty politics. I guess you will not be Director of HHS now that Lou has lost the election. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10161 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 14:44:28 Subject: Hispanic for Council at Large One name that Healy should consider for in the next Mayoral election Council at Large is Sergio Lamboy a proven honest administrator that has integrity and has a history of getting the job done ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tired of u. posted Message 10162 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 14:52:36 Subject: Hey Sage, Take a Hike!!! You know nothing. Get a job. ***************** End Of Article ****************** None of this tells me anything about Phil Kenny posted Message 10163 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 14:53:21 Subject: Re: Next City Council and State Assembly What is it about Kenny that some believe him to be a good rep for Ward B. I'm active in Ward B and I've never heard of Kenny until today. If you are trying to imply something about Kenny...we in Ward B are a little more enlightened and that won't sway votes either to him or from him. As stated earlier today, I like Donnelly and think that she's done a fair job in Ward B as the council person. : That still makes Phil a twinkled toed, still a limp wristed O'Dea toady : : : : THE NAME SOOTHSAYER DOES NOT FIT YOU AT ALL. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE ANYONE. A PERSON SHOULD BE JUDGED BY THEIR ACTIONS, NOT HOW THEY ARE "PERCEIVED" BY OTHERS. PHIL KENNY WOULD WORK FOR THE CONSITUENTS OF WARD B AND RESPOND TO THEIR CONCERNS, UNLIKE MARY DONNELLY WHO HAS BEEN A DO-NOTHING FROM THE GET-GO. : : : : : : : : Who is Phil Kenny and why not Mary Donnelly for Ward B??? : : : : Phil Kenny is a twinkel toed, limp wristed toady of Bill O'Dea who serves on Sweet Lou's Assembly Payroll and is also aide to O'Dea. Ok now you got that, you can make your own call as to his relationships with the two. : : : : Mary Donnelly is finsihed, she was with Smith and has made no overture of peace or remaining a councilwoman. Rumor was that she has been approached for another position she is considering. : : : : However the St Patrick's Day Committee are still confused. Parade Balloon's, unlike Macy's Thanksgiving Parade, are not allowed in their parade. They are however working out the details to allow Mary to get down the Blvd. : : : : As for Brennan, he is concerned he cannot win his ward council seat and wants to become council at large and fill Healy's seat. : : : : Look for Brennan to move up and a new comer from Ward A with a history of Political Blood to emerge. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Never posted Message 10164 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 14:54:59 Subject: Traitor Billy R. is a traitor, if the people at his club will know what this guy is doing behind their back they will never campaign with him again. It is a shame. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soothsayer posted Message 10165 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 15:39:05 Subject: The Lavender Hill Mob You saw what the Lavender Hill Mob did to McGreevey. Manzo & O'Dea are the Hudson County Lavender Hill Mob. Phil Kenny drives there get away car. Lavender Hill Mob, come out, come out where ever you are! : If you are trying to make a reference to Phil's persuasion, whatever it may be, what difference does that make in how he does the job of CouncilPerson or any job for that matter? It makes no difference!! GROW UP! A person should be elected to office based on his or her qualifications for the position and not denied or ridiculed because some people have prejudices or phobias. That still makes Phil a twinkled toed, limp wristed O'Dea toady ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soothsayer posted Message 10166 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 15:40:31 Subject: The Lavender Hill Mob You saw what the Lavender Hill Mob did to McGreevey. Manzo & O'Dea are the Hudson County Lavender Hill Mob. Phil Kenny drives there get away car. Lavender Hill Mob, come out, come out where ever you are! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jersey City posted Message 10167 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 15:45:00 Subject: Re: Inept Administrator : One J.C. administrator that is inept and incompetent that has been living a protected life is Health officer J. Castagna.He is lazy and a do nothing. He is rarely in his office and on occasion you could see in Marion section hanging out. He feels he is untouchable but the new administration has plans for his departure. He is a strong supporter of Mc Klan's defamation of the present Mayor and a proponent of dirty politics. I guess you will not be Director of HHS now that Lou has lost the election. You are 100% right !!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Just wondering posted Message 10168 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 15:46:28 Subject: Who's running for mayor in may? I think Healy Manzo Flood and Smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** heightster posted Message 10169 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 15:48:40 Subject: Re: Who's running for mayor in may? Don't forgoet about Buonocore ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10170 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 15:48:44 Subject: I think Flood would pull it off with the right money. : I think Healy Manzo Flood and Smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Truth posted Message 10170 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 15:48:46 Subject: I think Flood would pull it off with the right money. : I think Healy Manzo Flood and Smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** yes posted Message 10171 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 15:49:25 Subject: Re: Traitor : Billy R. is a traitor, if the people at his club will know what this guy is doing behind their back they will never campaign with him again. It is a shame. Billy R. a traitor, we all knew that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I almost forgot. posted Message 10172 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 15:49:56 Subject: True. But he doesn't have a chance. : Don't forgoet about Buonocore ***************** End Of Article ****************** Here it is! posted Message 10173 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 15:52:45 Subject: Re: Who's running for mayor in may? Sandy Cunningham? I can't believe Lou Manzo will go for #5, Don't say Smith or Lipski, they are broke! : I think Healy Manzo Flood and Smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** heightster posted Message 10174 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 15:53:00 Subject: Re: True. But he doesn't have a chance. I agree, and at least the drama of where he lives won't be there this time. ***************** End Of Article ****************** That makes absolutely no sense! posted Message 10175 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 15:58:35 Subject: Re: The Lavender Hill Mob What is a lavender hill mob and what did they do to McG??? I thought he sank his own ship. : You saw what the Lavender Hill Mob did to McGreevey. : Manzo & O'Dea are the Hudson County Lavender Hill Mob. : Phil Kenny drives there get away car. : Lavender Hill Mob, come out, come out where ever you are! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Can't be true posted Message 10176 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 16:00:37 Subject: Re: Who's running for mayor in may? You have to be a JC resident for a year...from May 2004. Didn't he "become" a resident in July 04? If so, he can't run. : Don't forgoet about Buonocore ***************** End Of Article ****************** heightster posted Message 10177 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 16:07:00 Subject: Re: Who's running for mayor in may? I thought it was only 6mths.. Word is he had plans to run this May all along, even before Cunningham died. He just tried this time because the opportunity presented itself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Political Psychic posted Message 10178 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 16:08:38 Subject: I see a Mayor Manzo in the future ... Manzo will run with support from Bonocoure and Flood, because the people around Healy will foolishly blow off Flood and Bonocoure. By the time they realize they need these folks it will be too late. That will get them to join with Manzo to make a push to oust Healy in the Spring. With Manzo and two or three of the wannabees together...Healy had better have a huge war chest and a lot of county support. And I don't think he will consolidate power as fast as Schundler did in 93. As you may remember, Schundler had a fiscal rabbit and he pulled it out of his hat..just in time. It was called a 30% tax cut. Healy has no such rabbit. And he has a lot of dead wood around him too. Smith won't run because he just won't have the cash. For an acting Mayor...his showing was lousy, so he won't be able to raise the cash tis time around. : I think Healy Manzo Flood and Smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm pretty sure you have to be a resident for a year posted Message 10179 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 16:10:58 Subject: Re: Who's running for mayor in may? before you can run for office. That was the argument put forward by Manzo's attorneys when they booted Buonocore from this past race. : I thought it was only 6mths.. : Word is he had plans to run this May all along, even before Cunningham died. He just tried this time because the opportunity presented itself. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Hmmmm..... posted Message 10180 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 16:14:08 Subject: Re: Who's running for mayor in may? I think Healy, Manzo (again!), Flood, Gaughan, Vega, Nunez and Pine. Smith didn't make a strong enough showing in the election to wage a serious campaign...I think his days as an elected official are thru. Ward F don't want him and neither does the HCDO. : I think Healy Manzo Flood and Smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ron4Mayor? posted Message 10181 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 16:24:14 Subject: Re: Who's running for mayor in may? He has been renting an apartment with Sean! ***************** End Of Article ****************** heightster posted Message 10182 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 16:31:33 Subject: Re: Who's running for mayor in may? I doubt that very much! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Next city council; posted Message 10183 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 16:40:24 Subject: Continued next council This is the line up that was thrown out there and then someone revised it with the potential healy council to have look like the one atthe bottom of this page. Here is the problem with option 2. Lipski will be on teh council because he fell on teh sword for healy attacking manzo, Maldonado in E couldn;t get elected if it was only his own family voting so he is not agood choice, but leadership like him so it makes sense for assembly, Czplicki as chief of staff would be a conflict of interest to be on the council- so scratch this, flood would want more than F after all she just got 10,000 votes... I think the first option is WAY better than Option 2 option 1 : Brennan - Ward A : Phil Kenny - Ward B : Lipski- Ward C : Carroll Ward D : Fulop - Ward E : Kabili - Ward F : Flood - At large : Vega - At large : One more Hispanic at Large Option 2 : : : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : : : Phil Kenny- Ward B : : : : : Arnie Bettinger- Ward C : : : : : Carroll Ward D : : : : : Maldonado - Ward E : : : : : Willie Flood- Ward F : : : : : Michael Holloway - At large : : : : : Vega - At large : : : : : Czaplicki - at large ***************** End Of Article ****************** You have got to be kidding posted Message 10184 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 16:55:08 Subject: Re: Hispanic for Council at Large :::Sergio Lamboy? Director of Health & Human Services? Poster boy for Harvey? Sage, we would like you to pee in the cup. : One name that Healy should consider for in the next Mayoral election Council at Large is Sergio Lamboy a proven honest administrator that has integrity and has a history of getting the job done ***************** End Of Article ****************** good one posted Message 10185 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 16:56:30 Subject: Re: Continued next council Agree Option 1 is much better. Youth is good mixed with older people as well as a good mixture from all the different camps. no connors, no jerry, no lou : This is the line up that was thrown out there and then someone revised it with the potential healy council to have look like the one atthe bottom of this page. Here is the problem with option 2. Lipski will be on teh council because he fell on teh sword for healy attacking manzo, Maldonado in E couldn;t get elected if it was only his own family voting so he is not agood choice, but leadership like him so it makes sense for assembly, Czplicki as chief of staff would be a conflict of interest to be on the council- so scratch this, flood would want more than F after all she just got 10,000 votes... I think the first option is WAY better than Option 2 : option 1 : : Brennan - Ward A : : Phil Kenny - Ward B : : Lipski- Ward C : : Carroll Ward D : : Fulop - Ward E : : Kabili - Ward F : : Flood - At large : : Vega - At large : : One more Hispanic at Large : Option 2 : : : : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : : : : Phil Kenny- Ward B : : : : : : Arnie Bettinger- Ward C : : : : : : Carroll Ward D : : : : : : Maldonado - Ward E : : : : : : Willie Flood- Ward F : : : : : : Michael Holloway - At large : : : : : : Vega - At large : : : : : : Czaplicki - at large ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tell us some more posted Message 10186 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 16:57:17 Subject: Re: Traitor ::::He has said a few things that are totally reprehensible because of who he said them about. What else has he done? : : Billy R. is a traitor, if the people at his club will know what this guy is doing behind their back they will never campaign with him again. It is a shame. : : Billy R. a traitor, we all knew that. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soothsayer posted Message 10187 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 16:57:50 Subject: Political Psychic Boy as a political Psychic...you are Clueless! You should go the same route as Miss Cloe ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're a real comic! posted Message 10188 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 17:15:13 Subject: Re: Who's running for mayor in may? ::Ron isn't worthy of cleaning Sean's shoes. : He has been renting an apartment with Sean! ***************** End Of Article ****************** hoo? posted Message 10189 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 17:25:16 Subject: Re: Who's running for mayor in may? : I think Healy, Manzo (again!), Flood, Gaughan, Vega, Nunez and Pine. Smith didn't make a strong enough showing in the election to wage a serious campaign...I think his days as an elected official are thru. Ward F don't want him and neither does the HCDO. : : : I think Healy Manzo Flood and Smith ;;;Jimmy "assume the position" Dixon ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Gotta be Kidding posted Message 10190 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 18:26:01 Subject: Re: Jim Kennelly to replace Stan Eason Why would Kennelly go from a secure job with a County Exec who has a few years to go on his term, to move to the office of an Interim Mayor who has a few months before he has to run again? That makes no sense. And since Dorf didn't support anyone's campaign in this round, what makes you think he would be interested in coming back to Jersey City? : GOD HELP US! : : One view is Jim Kennelly will replace Stan Eason as Director of Communications for the city. Then, the story goes, Brian Dorf will return to the county to assume Kennelly's role. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soothsayer posted Message 10191 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 19:47:15 Subject: Re: The Lavender Hill Mob Pick up a real newspaper once in a while instead of that rag JJ, then it may make some sense to you. get educated fool : What is a lavender hill mob and what did they do to McG??? I thought he sank his own ship. : : You saw what the Lavender Hill Mob did to McGreevey. : : Manzo & O'Dea are the Hudson County Lavender Hill Mob. : : Phil Kenny drives there get away car. : : Lavender Hill Mob, come out, come out where ever you are! ***************** End Of Article ****************** interesting council candidates posted Message 10192 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 20:24:32 Subject: Re: Continued next council : : option 1 : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : Phil Kenny - Ward B/ mary donnolly/ mike manzo : : : Lipski- Ward C/ mahar khalil/ arnold bettinger/ jimmy king : : : Carroll Ward D/ bill gaughan : : : Fulop - Ward E/ junior maldondo/ jaime vazquez : : : Kabili - Ward F/ voila richerson/ melissa hollway : : : Flood - At large/ harvey / O'dea : : : Vega - At large/ fidea colon/ eli rivera : : : at Large Carrol : : Option 2 : : : : : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : : : : : Phil Kenny- Ward B : : : : : : : Arnie Bettinger- Ward C : : : : : : : Carroll Ward D : : : : : : : Maldonado - Ward E : : : : : : : Willie Flood- Ward F : : : : : : : Michael Holloway - At large : : : : : : : Vega - At large : : : : : : : Czaplicki - at large ***************** End Of Article ****************** Political Psychic posted Message 10193 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 21:20:31 Subject: The words of a....... In your future...I see..... Unemployment. : Boy as a political Psychic...you are Clueless! You should go the same route as Miss Cloe ***************** End Of Article ****************** Humbug posted Message 10194 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 21:58:05 Subject: Soothsayer is an idiot Soothsayer is a fool. Clear as day. : That still makes Phil a twinkled toed, still a limp wristed O'Dea toady : : : : THE NAME SOOTHSAYER DOES NOT FIT YOU AT ALL. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE ANYONE. A PERSON SHOULD BE JUDGED BY THEIR ACTIONS, NOT HOW THEY ARE "PERCEIVED" BY OTHERS. PHIL KENNY WOULD WORK FOR THE CONSITUENTS OF WARD B AND RESPOND TO THEIR CONCERNS, UNLIKE MARY DONNELLY WHO HAS BEEN A DO-NOTHING FROM THE GET-GO. : : : : : : : : Who is Phil Kenny and why not Mary Donnelly for Ward B??? : : : : Phil Kenny is a twinkel toed, limp wristed toady of Bill O'Dea who serves on Sweet Lou's Assembly Payroll and is also aide to O'Dea. Ok now you got that, you can make your own call as to his relationships with the two. : : : : Mary Donnelly is finsihed, she was with Smith and has made no overture of peace or remaining a councilwoman. Rumor was that she has been approached for another position she is considering. : : : : However the St Patrick's Day Committee are still confused. Parade Balloon's, unlike Macy's Thanksgiving Parade, are not allowed in their parade. They are however working out the details to allow Mary to get down the Blvd. : : : : As for Brennan, he is concerned he cannot win his ward council seat and wants to become council at large and fill Healy's seat. : : : : Look for Brennan to move up and a new comer from Ward A with a history of Political Blood to emerge. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Political Traffic Cop posted Message 10195 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 22:15:30 Subject: Kennelly, Dorf and Eason Rumors start quickly on this board. But I can't see Kennelly leaving his gig in the County for a temp job at 280 Grove. And from what I hear Dorf bounces back and forth to Florida doing video production and PR in Lauderdale and Miami. If Eason plays it right, I expect to see him walking the halls of City Hall at least until Spring. : One view is Jim Kennelly will replace Stan Eason as Director of Communications for the city. Then, the story goes, Brian Dorf will return to the county to assume Kennelly's role. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I couldn't agree more. posted Message 10196 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 22:26:57 Subject: Re: Great choice !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Are you kidding me? posted Message 10197 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 22:28:17 Subject: Inclan? : ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 10198 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 23:13:06 Subject: Wow ! Pithy comeback ! :) ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soothsayer posted Message 10199 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 23:29:58 Subject: Re: The words of a....... You have proven my point! Clueless! : In your future...I see..... Unemployment. : : Boy as a political Psychic...you are Clueless! You should go the same route as Miss Cloe ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soothsayer posted Message 10200 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 10, 2004 at 23:31:29 Subject: Future of JC Jersey City is no longer running the city, it comes from the North! ***************** End Of Article ****************** roommate posted Message 10201 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 06:43:57 Subject: Re: Who's running for mayor in may? : He has been renting an apartment with Sean! ::::And Mc Cann? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Meet some new bosses posted Message 10202 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 07:26:26 Subject: Re: Future of JC ::Bobby Troy, chief of police - Carl Zaplicki, chief of staff - Dominick Pandolpho, asst. chief of staff - Jack Carly, MAB - Maureen Coran, MAB. : Jersey City is no longer running the city, it comes from the North! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bar Keep posted Message 10203 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 11:05:57 Subject: I'll pour you another Soothsayer...you are so f-cking clueless. I've read your posts the past few days and I have to laugh at how uninformed you are. You obviously are some low-level paper-pusher trying to peek into the conference room to see who is making the decisions. Only problem is that you aren't the kind of person allowed inside. : Jersey City is no longer running the city, it comes from the North! ***************** End Of Article ****************** UBERHIPPY posted Message 10204 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 11:15:48 Subject: Healy to appoint Willie Flood as Deputy Mayor? Any truth to the rumour that Jerry Healy will appoint Wille Flood as Deputy Mayor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** duh, no posted Message 10205 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 11:19:06 Subject: Re: Healy to appoint Willie Flood as Deputy Mayor? : Any truth to the rumour that Jerry Healy will appoint Wille Flood as Deputy Mayor? :::No. Gaughan wants Jimmy Dixon. He already started on the alphabet in preparation. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You're showing your intelligence posted Message 10206 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 11:24:56 Subject: Re: The Lavender Hill Mob by calling me the fool. Seems as if others on this board think you are the fool and I would have to agree with them. Instead of responding with a nonsensical posting, cite your "real newspaper" that explains what a lavendar hill mob is and what they did to McGreevey. I still stand by my statement that McG sank his own ship. : Pick up a real newspaper once in a while instead of that rag JJ, then it may make some sense to you. get educated fool : : What is a lavender hill mob and what did they do to McG??? I thought he sank his own ship. : : : You saw what the Lavender Hill Mob did to McGreevey. : : : Manzo & O'Dea are the Hudson County Lavender Hill Mob. : : : Phil Kenny drives there get away car. : : : Lavender Hill Mob, come out, come out where ever you are! ***************** End Of Article ****************** DonIsABoylover posted Message 10207 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 11:30:08 Subject: When will Don Bautista come out of closet We all know Gaughan is a homophobe... But when will DeGise inner circle GAY GUY batista come out of closet..... ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10208 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 11:50:55 Subject: Jackson, Cardwell Civil Rights Violators Jackson and Cardwell were Gerry Mc Klan's campaign managers in his effort to stop minorities from going to the polls during his campaign to get elected for Mayor in 1985. They were found liable in a court of law of violating the Civil Rights of blacks and hispanics and had to pay a sizable insurance payout. These are the same people who choose to call our former Mayor a Tom. These are the worse form of bigots you could find. They purport to be representatives of their community. When in fact they are only interested in lining their pockets with city and county contracts. They will sell their own mother's out for a lucrative city contract. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Willie will be taken care of... posted Message 10209 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 11:54:10 Subject: Re: Healy to appoint Willie Flood as Deputy Mayor? Willie will be rewarded for all here "help" to this election with an appointment in the current administration... : Any truth to the rumour that Jerry Healy will appoint Wille Flood as Deputy Mayor? ***************** End Of Article ****************** SUI - I was there! posted Message 10210 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 13:37:10 Subject: Sean Connors Do not insult us, we know what you did and all the "Brothers" you attempted to hurt. I hope you DO run for an office. We are waiting to give you some "payback". Let's see how you hold up to a taste of your own medecin. Thanks a lot "Brother"! ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Got Soothsayers' Number posted Message 10211 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 13:57:03 Subject: He's a Clueless Loser Its about time someone called this one for what he is.... a clueless loser. This guy spouts off all the time like he actually knows something about what's going on...and with each pots its more obvious that he has no idea what he's talking about. : Soothsayer...you are so f-cking clueless. I've read your posts the past few days and I have to laugh at how uninformed you are. You obviously are some low-level paper-pusher trying to peek into the conference room to see who is making the decisions. Only problem is that you aren't the kind of person allowed inside. : : Jersey City is no longer running the city, it comes from the North! ***************** End Of Article ****************** SAY WHAT posted Message 10212 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 14:47:23 Subject: Re: When will Don Bautista come out of closet Why would a guy with the e-mail address d.bautista@aol.com post the prior post? Is bautista outting himself??? : We all know Gaughan is a homophobe... But when will DeGise inner circle GAY GUY batista come out of closet..... ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10213 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 15:21:23 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The paper pushing Soothsayer posted Message 10214 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 15:43:48 Subject: Flood Healy will appoiint Flood Deputy Mayor. Oh wait I can't peak into the conference room anymore! Boy yeah you really got me! LMAO ***************** End Of Article ****************** UTN and Jackson are out posted Message 10215 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 15:56:46 Subject: The Sage The Bob Jackson journalistic rag UTN posted negative articles about Bob M.'s, Bernie K.S dad and personal attacks on almost every politician in Hudson County, bad memeories die hard. I don't think these power brokers are going to forgive or forget any time soon. Jackson, Cardwell and Flood will get there justice soon. Flood when are going to start attending the Board Of Education meetings ifthey were take attendance you would have been expelled already. Its sad that as a board youreputation is one of rarely attending and when you do you don't know what you are talking about and don't make sense. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10216 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 16:09:55 Subject: Pat O'Melia asks Javier Inclan why the votes STILL ARE NOT COUNTED! On this week's broadcast of Pat O'Melia's Hudson County's Talking, Hudson County Clerk Javier Inclan explains the delay in certifying the results of the Special Election for Mayor of Jersey City. To access the Online audio, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** sad posted Message 10217 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 16:29:02 Subject: Re: Traitor : ::::He has said a few things that are totally reprehensible because of who he said them about. What else has he done? : : : Billy R. is a traitor, if the people at his club will know what this guy is doing behind their back they will never campaign with him again. It is a shame. : : : : Billy R. a traitor, we all knew that. If all this is true, is very sad, but in politics I guess people are nice just when they need something. ***************** End Of Article ****************** poor sean posted Message 10218 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 16:32:13 Subject: Re: Sean Connors : Do not insult us, we know what you did and all the "Brothers" you attempted to hurt. I hope you DO run for an office. We are waiting to give you some "payback". Let's see how you hold up to a taste of your own medecin. Thanks a lot "Brother"! ::::It gets even better. Now Sean tails Mayor Healy for Mc Cann hoping for another photo op. A policeman tailing his own mayor. It really couldn't happen anywhere else. Mc Cann has taken over his mind. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Plato posted Message 10219 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 17:09:56 Subject: Re: Inclan? I don't think that's a bad move. He's young, energetic, and knows local government. I guess I think he could ba a fresh air, but I don't know him personally. ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 10220 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 17:30:06 Subject: help wanted LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** need help posted Message 10221 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 17:34:24 Subject: Re: help wanted : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. :::::Dixon, you need help alright. ***************** End Of Article ****************** hey Dickson posted Message 10222 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 17:38:59 Subject: Re: help wanted : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. :::Home early Jimmy. Hard day at the bar? ***************** End Of Article ****************** friend of Bill posted Message 10223 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 17:50:34 Subject: Re: help wanted : : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. : :::::Dixon, you need help alright. ::::No junkies? Check yourself out, dickson. remember the restraining orders ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 10224 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 18:07:00 Subject: Re: help wanted : : : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. : : :::::Dixon, you need help alright. : ::::No junkies? Check yourself out, dickson. remember the restraining orders NO STRAINING ORDER'S HEARD THAT WAS LIFE TIME AGO STILL LOOKIN 4 LEAD INSPECT. FRIEND OF BILL'S NOT QUALIFIED AS U MUST B JUNKIE 2 ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 10225 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 18:11:00 Subject: Re: help wanted ::::Baby, shutoff the computer. Dinner is ready, rigatoni in vodka sauce, salad with red wine vinegar, rum torte & irish coffee. The JCIA called & said next time to bundle all those Manzo signs you put out. : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** listen up posted Message 10226 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 18:22:37 Subject: Re: help wanted : : : : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. : : : :::::Dixon, you need help alright. : : ::::No junkies? Check yourself out, dickson. remember the restraining orders : NO STRAINING ORDER'S HEARD THAT WAS LIFE TIME AGO STILL LOOKIN 4 LEAD INSPECT. FRIEND OF BILL'S NOT QUALIFIED AS U MUST B JUNKIE 2 :::::For those who don't know, Red Ryder comes from the Gaughan/Dixon home computer. This is what comes from there ***************** End Of Article ****************** o great posted Message 10227 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 18:26:31 Subject: Re: help wanted : : : : : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. : : : : :::::Dixon, you need help alright. : : : ::::No junkies? Check yourself out, dickson. remember the restraining orders : : NO STRAINING ORDER'S HEARD THAT WAS LIFE TIME AGO STILL LOOKIN 4 LEAD INSPECT. FRIEND OF BILL'S NOT QUALIFIED AS U MUST B JUNKIE 2 : :::::For those who don't know, Red Ryder comes from the Gaughan/Dixon home computer. This is what comes from there :::Oh great. our tax dollars at work. they all work for the city and county. ***************** End Of Article ****************** DonIsABoytoy posted Message 10228 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 18:27:15 Subject: Batista When will Don Batista reveal his sexual preference...I mean to entire county knows he is GAY ***************** End Of Article ****************** RED FLYER posted Message 10229 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 18:27:56 Subject: Re: help wanted : ::::Baby, shutoff the computer. Dinner is ready, rigatoni in vodka sauce, salad with red wine vinegar, rum torte & irish coffee. The JCIA called & said next time to bundle all those Manzo signs you put out. MANZO SIGNS? EVEN THE GARBAGE COLLECTORS WON'T PICK THEM UP LET'S PLAY SOME MORE PETE!!!!!!!!!!!! IHAVE NO PLCE 4 U IN OUR CLUB AND THAT'S FINALE : : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey can win posted Message 10230 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 18:31:49 Subject: Re: Continued next council Smith=mayor manzo=at large king=at large inclan=at large holloway=a m.manzo=b lambert=c romano=d r.velazquez=e dublin=f what do you think : This is the line up that was thrown out there and then someone revised it with the potential healy council to have look like the one atthe bottom of this page. Here is the problem with option 2. Lipski will be on teh council because he fell on teh sword for healy attacking manzo, Maldonado in E couldn;t get elected if it was only his own family voting so he is not agood choice, but leadership like him so it makes sense for assembly, Czplicki as chief of staff would be a conflict of interest to be on the council- so scratch this, flood would want more than F after all she just got 10,000 votes... I think the first option is WAY better than Option 2 : option 1 : : Brennan - Ward A : : Phil Kenny - Ward B : : Lipski- Ward C : : Carroll Ward D : : Fulop - Ward E : : Kabili - Ward F : : Flood - At large : : Vega - At large : : One more Hispanic at Large : Option 2 : : : : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : : : : Phil Kenny- Ward B : : : : : : Arnie Bettinger- Ward C : : : : : : Carroll Ward D : : : : : : Maldonado - Ward E : : : : : : Willie Flood- Ward F : : : : : : Michael Holloway - At large : : : : : : Vega - At large : : : : : : Czaplicki - at large ***************** End Of Article ****************** 4 FINGERS AND A FRIEND posted Message 10231 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 18:40:28 Subject: PETE .B PEEEETEEE ARE YOU LONESOME TONIGHT???>? CALL ME U LIKE IT BALD ***************** End Of Article ****************** class posted Message 10232 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 18:48:12 Subject: Re: PETE .B : PEEEETEEE ARE YOU LONESOME TONIGHT???>? CALL ME U LIKE IT BALD :::::what a class family and all of them public employees. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10233 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 18:52:04 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** JEALOUES????? posted Message 10234 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 18:56:19 Subject: Re: PETE .B : : PEEEETEEE ARE YOU LONESOME TONIGHT???>? CALL ME U LIKE IT BALD : :::::what a class family and all of them public employees. ;;;;;;;;;SUX 2 B ON THE BOTTOM HUH????? TIME TO GO BACK TO DRIVING A TRUCK U PERVERT::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 10235 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:00:31 Subject: Re: help wanted : : :That's Finale? Oh Baby, I'm crushed cause that's not what you said last night. You remember, you & me, with the Hennessey in the coffin. The one with the pink satin lining. Let's make our dream house of those Manzo signs. You still got spray paint left over? :::Baby, shutoff the computer. Dinner is ready, rigatoni in vodka sauce, salad with red wine vinegar, rum torte & irish coffee. The JCIA called & said next time to bundle all those Manzo signs you put out. : MANZO SIGNS? EVEN THE GARBAGE COLLECTORS WON'T PICK THEM UP LET'S PLAY SOME MORE PETE!!!!!!!!!!!! IHAVE NO PLCE 4 U IN OUR CLUB AND THAT'S FINALE : : : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Harvey can win? Fill this cup please. posted Message 10236 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:03:10 Subject: Re: Continued next council : Smith=mayor : manzo=at large : king=at large : inclan=at large : holloway=a : m.manzo=b : lambert=c : romano=d : r.velazquez=e : dublin=f : what do you think : : This is the line up that was thrown out there and then someone revised it with the potential healy council to have look like the one atthe bottom of this page. Here is the problem with option 2. Lipski will be on teh council because he fell on teh sword for healy attacking manzo, Maldonado in E couldn;t get elected if it was only his own family voting so he is not agood choice, but leadership like him so it makes sense for assembly, Czplicki as chief of staff would be a conflict of interest to be on the council- so scratch this, flood would want more than F after all she just got 10,000 votes... I think the first option is WAY better than Option 2 : : option 1 : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : Phil Kenny - Ward B : : : Lipski- Ward C : : : Carroll Ward D : : : Fulop - Ward E : : : Kabili - Ward F : : : Flood - At large : : : Vega - At large : : : One more Hispanic at Large : : Option 2 : : : : : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : : : : : Phil Kenny- Ward B : : : : : : : Arnie Bettinger- Ward C : : : : : : : Carroll Ward D : : : : : : : Maldonado - Ward E : : : : : : : Willie Flood- Ward F : : : : : : : Michael Holloway - At large : : : : : : : Vega - At large : : : : : : : Czaplicki - at large ***************** End Of Article ****************** tax payer posted Message 10237 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:05:08 Subject: Re: help wanted : : : : : : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. : : : : : :::::Dixon, you need help alright. : : : : ::::No junkies? Check yourself out, dickson. remember the restraining orders : : : NO STRAINING ORDER'S HEARD THAT WAS LIFE TIME AGO STILL LOOKIN 4 LEAD INSPECT. FRIEND OF BILL'S NOT QUALIFIED AS U MUST B JUNKIE 2 : : : :::::For those who don't know, Red Ryder comes from the Gaughan/Dixon home computer. This is what comes from there : : :::Oh great. our tax dollars at work. they all work for the city and county. THAT'S GOOD BUT BUT HOW ARE THEY SPENDING CITY # COUNTY $$$ IF THERE ON THERE HOME COMPUTER?? DAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Five Time Loser posted Message 10238 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:06:47 Subject: Lou, say it ain't so! There are people from the crippled Manzo camp claiming that the Looney One is planning to mount a challenge in the May mayoral. Saints preserves us! ***************** End Of Article ****************** City posted Message 10239 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:08:08 Subject: Re: Traitor : : ::::He has said a few things that are totally reprehensible because of who he said them about. What else has he done? : : : : Billy R. is a traitor, if the people at his club will know what this guy is doing behind their back they will never campaign with him again. It is a shame. : : : : : : Billy R. a traitor, we all knew that. : If all this is true, is very sad, but in politics I guess people are nice just when they need something. Well, at the end of this mess he won't have no friends or people to trust him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 10240 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:11:17 Subject: Re: help wanted : : : : :That's Finale? Oh Baby, I'm crushed cause that's not what you said last night. You remember, you & me, with the Hennessey in the coffin. The one with the pink satin lining. Let's make our dream house of those Manzo signs. You still got spray paint left over? absoulty i still have a little left from paintin your mother's lip's : :::Baby, shutoff the computer. Dinner is ready, rigatoni in vodka sauce, salad with red wine vinegar, rum torte & irish coffee. The JCIA called & said next time to bundle all those Manzo signs you put out. : : MANZO SIGNS? EVEN THE GARBAGE COLLECTORS WON'T PICK THEM UP LET'S PLAY SOME MORE PETE!!!!!!!!!!!! IHAVE NO PLCE 4 U IN OUR CLUB AND THAT'S FINALE : : : : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 10241 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:28:23 Subject: PETE B. AS PER STANDARD BEARER NO PLACE FOR YOU HERE GO BACK TO DRIVING TRUCK'S ***************** End Of Article ****************** Pop posted Message 10242 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:31:12 Subject: Re: PETE B. : AS PER STANDARD BEARER NO PLACE FOR YOU HERE GO BACK TO DRIVING TRUCK'S ::::Jimmy, won't popsy be proud when he sees copies of your writhing here posted on the clubhouse window? ***************** End Of Article ****************** paul posted Message 10243 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:35:36 Subject: harvey smith i feel bad for his wife when he is out of office she might get slaped around again by harvey i heard she did not vote for him she voted for flood what a shame ***************** End Of Article ****************** mike posted Message 10244 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:39:24 Subject: pete baron its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 10245 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:47:48 Subject: manzo did he finally stop crying and face the fact that he lost or is he going to keep up the bull$hit about all the votes are not counted yet just give up ***************** End Of Article ****************** petes lawyer posted Message 10246 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:49:30 Subject: Re: pete baron : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff for the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? ***************** End Of Article ****************** JIMMMMYYYY posted Message 10247 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 19:58:06 Subject: Re: help wanted ::::Baby, I got you that dictionary for xmas. Why don't you use it? I also got you that book Everything you wanted to know about sex but were afraid to ask - in picture form. What do I have to do? : : : : : : : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. : : : : : : :::::Dixon, you need help alright. : : : : : ::::No junkies? Check yourself out, dickson. remember the restraining orders : : : : NO STRAINING ORDER'S HEARD THAT WAS LIFE TIME AGO STILL LOOKIN 4 LEAD INSPECT. FRIEND OF BILL'S NOT QUALIFIED AS U MUST B JUNKIE 2 : : : : : :::::For those who don't know, Red Ryder comes from the Gaughan/Dixon home computer. This is what comes from there : : : : :::Oh great. our tax dollars at work. they all work for the city and county. : THAT'S GOOD BUT BUT HOW ARE THEY SPENDING CITY # COUNTY $$$ IF THERE ON THERE HOME COMPUTER?? DAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** mike posted Message 10248 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 20:08:12 Subject: Re: pete baron : : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car : :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff for the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? my name is not jummy dixon it is mike i know pete from my block on bowers street where we live the whole block hates him he is a a$$hole with a big mouth every thing is his sister she is a cop in the south district big deal i got a tape of him with his daughter in a city truck which is not allowed so if he want to play i got the proof on tape ***************** End Of Article ****************** ricco posted Message 10249 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 20:14:10 Subject: Re: help wanted : ::::Baby, I got you that dictionary for xmas. Why don't you use it? I also got you that book Everything you wanted to know about sex but were afraid to ask - in picture form. What do I have to do? : : : : : : : : : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. : : : : : : : :::::Dixon, you need help alright. : : : : : : ::::No junkies? Check yourself out, dickson. remember the restraining orders : : : : : NO STRAINING ORDER'S HEARD THAT WAS LIFE TIME AGO STILL LOOKIN 4 LEAD INSPECT. FRIEND OF BILL'S NOT QUALIFIED AS U MUST B JUNKIE 2 : : : : : : : :::::For those who don't know, Red Ryder comes from the Gaughan/Dixon home computer. This is what comes from there : : : : : : :::Oh great. our tax dollars at work. they all work for the city and county. : : THAT'S GOOD BUT BUT HOW ARE THEY SPENDING CITY # COUNTY $$$ IF THERE ON THERE HOME COMPUTER?? DAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! all you do is pick on other people look at you sit your big fat a$$ at the computer and talk about other people get a life get off welfare and get a job you fat bastard ***************** End Of Article ****************** Carl Zcap;icki chief stafffor Healy posted Message 10250 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 20:16:57 Subject: Another Sacco boy Why bring corruption from North Bergen? ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 10251 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 20:18:09 Subject: Re: pete baron : : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car : :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff fTYor the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? ABSO FREKIN LOOTLY HE GOT CAUGHT RIPPEN DOWN SIGNS ON PATTERSON ST. # LINCOLN ST . GOT PIC'S CALL ME 201 3203728 ***************** End Of Article ****************** good stuff posted Message 10252 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 20:21:43 Subject: Re: pete baron : : : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car : : :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff for the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? : my name is not jummy dixon it is mike i know pete from my block on bowers street where we live the whole block hates him he is a : a$$hole with a big mouth every thing is his sister she is a cop in the south district big deal i got a tape of him with his daughter in a city truck which is not allowed so if he want to play i got the proof on tape ;;;;;;I can understand why you don't like cops, Dixon. Keep it coming. Popsy and Tom are gonna love this when they see it on the clubhouse window tomorrow am. last one sounds like blackmail, but weren't you supposed to be working when you took this tape? Did the councilman tell you to do it? does he know? ***************** End Of Article ****************** curious posted Message 10253 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 20:32:05 Subject: Re: pete baron : : : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car : : :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff fTYor the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? : ABSO FREKIN LOOTLY HE GOT CAUGHT RIPPEN DOWN SIGNS ON PATTERSON ST. # LINCOLN ST . GOT PIC'S CALL ME 201 3203728 :::Jimmy Dixon, does councilman gaughan talk about firing people for political opposition? will he get people fired because you don't like them? does he have anything on other people? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Not Surprised posted Message 10254 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 20:32:10 Subject: Manzo's Millions It would amaze me if Manzo didn't mount a Spring offensive. He's spent millions of dollars on his runs for the Mayor's office. He's put dozens, if not hundreds of his followers in jeopardy. He has to make a run for it in teh Spring, otherwise four years from now people will be asking "Lou Who?". This is his last shot. You know the County will go after his Assembly seat next year. So he either builds a strong coalition to buck the county, and does it now, or he gives up on politics. : There are people from the crippled Manzo camp claiming that the Looney One is planning to mount a challenge in the May mayoral. : Saints preserves us! ***************** End Of Article ****************** LOL posted Message 10255 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 20:33:01 Subject: Re: Continued next council I just don't see it but it's a good laugh! : Smith=mayor : manzo=at large : king=at large : inclan=at large : holloway=a : m.manzo=b : lambert=c : romano=d : r.velazquez=e : dublin=f : what do you think : : This is the line up that was thrown out there and then someone revised it with the potential healy council to have look like the one atthe bottom of this page. Here is the problem with option 2. Lipski will be on teh council because he fell on teh sword for healy attacking manzo, Maldonado in E couldn;t get elected if it was only his own family voting so he is not agood choice, but leadership like him so it makes sense for assembly, Czplicki as chief of staff would be a conflict of interest to be on the council- so scratch this, flood would want more than F after all she just got 10,000 votes... I think the first option is WAY better than Option 2 : : option 1 : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : Phil Kenny - Ward B : : : Lipski- Ward C : : : Carroll Ward D : : : Fulop - Ward E : : : Kabili - Ward F : : : Flood - At large : : : Vega - At large : : : One more Hispanic at Large : : Option 2 : : : : : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : : : : : Phil Kenny- Ward B : : : : : : : Arnie Bettinger- Ward C : : : : : : : Carroll Ward D : : : : : : : Maldonado - Ward E : : : : : : : Willie Flood- Ward F : : : : : : : Michael Holloway - At large : : : : : : : Vega - At large : : : : : : : Czaplicki - at large ***************** End Of Article ****************** RED FLYER posted Message 10256 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 21:03:48 Subject: Re: pete baron : : : : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car : : : :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff fTYor the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? : : ABSO FREKIN LOOTLY HE GOT CAUGHT RIPPEN DOWN SIGNS ON PATTERSON ST. # LINCOLN ST . GOT PIC'S CALL ME 201 3203728 : :::Jimmy Dixon, does councilman gaughan talk about firing people for political opposition? will he get people fired because you don't like them? does he have anything on other people? /? is jimmy dixon no matter what u say u r done go back 2 driving a truck ***************** End Of Article ****************** thoughts of Jimmy Dixon posted Message 10257 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 21:05:15 Subject: Re: pete baron : : : : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car : : : :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff fTYor the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? : : ABSO FREKIN LOOTLY HE GOT CAUGHT RIPPEN DOWN SIGNS ON PATTERSON ST. # LINCOLN ST . GOT PIC'S CALL ME 201 3203728 : :::Jimmy Dixon, does councilman gaughan talk about firing people for political opposition? will he get people fired because you don't like them? does he have anything on other people? :::Jimmy Dixon seems to have said enough for tonight. I hope readers learned something from what he wrote here tonight. It's not a joke. This is what really goes on around here. It goes far beyond the simple minded ramblings of Dixon himself but opens a door to the real life thoughts of these people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why NOw? posted Message 10258 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 21:34:12 Subject: Re: Another Sacco boy : Why bring corruption from North Bergen? : is it because there is none around Healy now? Why no comments when Carlzplicki was the Chief of Staff for Cunningham, or maybe because Nick Sacco and the boys didn't help Healy whatsoever b4, maybe because Bernie Kenny was with Manzo RU crazy Carlzplicki is better than 95% of the people Healy could have put in ***************** End Of Article ****************** red flyer posted Message 10259 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 21:36:17 Subject: Re: pete baron : : : : : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car : : : : :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff fTYor the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? : : : ABSO FREKIN LOOTLY HE GOT CAUGHT RIPPEN DOWN SIGNS ON PATTERSON ST. # LINCOLN ST . GOT PIC'S CALL ME 201 3203728 : : : :::Jimmy Dixon, does councilman gaughan talk about firing people for political opposition? will he get people fired because you don't like them? does he have anything on other people? : : :::Jimmy Dixon seems to have said enough for tonight. I hope readers learned something from what he wrote here tonight. It's not a joke. This is what really goes on around here. It goes far beyond the simple minded ramblings of Dixon himself but opens a door to the real life thoughts of these people. OH!! GIVE IT UP PETE YOU ARE DONE AND BY THE WAY THIS IS NOT JIMMY DIXON I WORK FOR THE JCFD BUT I HAVE A COUSIN AT THE J.C.I.A INIALT'S FRA PI OOP'S SEE YOU SOON ***************** End Of Article ****************** CARL IS THE MAN FOR THE JOB ,STOP THE BS. MANZO LOOSERS posted Message 10260 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 21:37:25 Subject: Re: Another Sacco boy : : Why bring corruption from North Bergen? : : is it because there is none around Healy now? Why no comments when Carlzplicki was the Chief of Staff for Cunningham, or maybe because Nick Sacco and the boys didn't help Healy whatsoever b4, : maybe because Bernie Kenny was with Manzo RU crazy Carlzplicki is better than 95% of the people Healy could have put in ***************** End Of Article ****************** GO TO JAIL CARD!!! posted Message 10261 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 21:38:55 Subject: Re: pete baron : : : : : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car : : : : :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff fTYor the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? : : : ABSO FREKIN LOOTLY HE GOT CAUGHT RIPPEN DOWN SIGNS ON PATTERSON ST. # LINCOLN ST . GOT PIC'S CALL ME 201 3203728 : : : :::Jimmy Dixon, does councilman gaughan talk about firing people for political opposition? will he get people fired because you don't like them? does he have anything on other people? : : :::Jimmy Dixon seems to have said enough for tonight. I hope readers learned something from what he wrote here tonight. It's not a joke. This is what really goes on around here. It goes far beyond the simple minded ramblings of Dixon himself but opens a door to the real life thoughts of these people. Maybe it's because prople r on the tot and haven't worked in years. Look at the shape of our city, the $'s in the houses and we can't leave them. Hopefully Healy will bring pride and integrity back to JC. McCann and others in city hall had cops go out and try to put peo;le in jail if they opposed him, his narc's were all on tapes from FBI, give us a break!!!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Mr Czaplicki saved JC of McCann posted Message 10262 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 21:41:41 Subject: Re: Another Sacco boy : Why bring corruption from North Bergen? Thanks to Carl McCann isn't a freeholder today Mr Czaplicki and his friends stop the corruption before even Healy . At that moment Cunningham people supprted McCann CLear friends CARL is CLEAN.. ***************** End Of Article ****************** hey jimmy posted Message 10263 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 21:46:17 Subject: Re: pete baron : : : : : : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car : : : : : :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff fTYor the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? : : : : ABSO FREKIN LOOTLY HE GOT CAUGHT RIPPEN DOWN SIGNS ON PATTERSON ST. # LINCOLN ST . GOT PIC'S CALL ME 201 3203728 : : : : : :::Jimmy Dixon, does councilman gaughan talk about firing people for political opposition? will he get people fired because you don't like them? does he have anything on other people? : : : : :::Jimmy Dixon seems to have said enough for tonight. I hope readers learned something from what he wrote here tonight. It's not a joke. This is what really goes on around here. It goes far beyond the simple minded ramblings of Dixon himself but opens a door to the real life thoughts of these people. : OH!! GIVE IT UP PETE YOU ARE DONE AND BY THE WAY THIS IS NOT JIMMY DIXON I WORK FOR THE JCFD BUT I HAVE A COUSIN AT THE J.C.I.A INIALT'S FRA PI OOP'S SEE YOU SOON ::::red flyer=jimid331@aol.com=Jimmy Dixon Sorry! ***************** End Of Article ****************** No FRIGGIN CLUE posted Message 10264 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 21:50:08 Subject: Re: Continued next council : : Smith=mayor : : manzo=at large : : king=at large : : inclan=at large : : holloway=a : : m.manzo=b : : lambert=c : : romano=d : : r.velazquez=e : : dublin=f : : what do you think : : : : This is the line up that was thrown out there and then someone revised it with the potential healy council to have look like the one atthe bottom of this page. Here is the problem with option 2. Lipski will be on teh council because he fell on teh sword for healy attacking manzo, Maldonado in E couldn;t get elected if it was only his own family voting so he is not agood choice, but leadership like him so it makes sense for assembly, Czplicki as chief of staff would be a conflict of interest to be on the council- so scratch this, flood would want more than F after all she just got 10,000 votes... I think the first option is WAY better than Option 2 : : : option 1 : : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : : Phil Kenny - Ward B : : : : Lipski- Ward C : : : : Carroll Ward D : : : : Fulop - Ward E : : : : Kabili - Ward F : : : : Flood - At large : : : : Vega - At large : : : : One more Hispanic at Large : : : Option 2 : : : : : : : : Brennan - Ward A : : : : : : : : Phil Kenny- Ward B : : : : : : : : Arnie Bettinger- Ward C : : : : : : : : Carroll Ward D : : : : : : : : Maldonado - Ward E : : : : : : : : Willie Flood- Ward F : : : : : : : : Michael Holloway - At large : : : : : : : : Vega - At large : : : : : : : : Czaplicki - at large Where do people think up this wierd shisht, this election is over and unless McCann can drug Healy and stick him with some little boys, Heasly has the biggest win in the last 50 years. People r in debt, and the Healy camp is rollin in $$$. BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THAT HEALY WILL PERFORM FOR THE PEOPLE OF JC. HEALY WILL MOVE THE CITY FORWARD FOR ALL NOT THE PRIVELIDGED FEW. he is smart, compassionate, sincere and honest this is a fait accompli, you better get on soon or be left out for the next ten years. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RED FLYER posted Message 10265 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 21:51:27 Subject: Re: pete baron : : : : : : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car : : : : : :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff fTYor the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? : : : : ABSO FREKIN LOOTLY HE GOT CAUGHT RIPPEN DOWN SIGNS ON PATTERSON ST. # LINCOLN ST . GOT PIC'S CALL ME 201 3203728 : : : : : :::Jimmy Dixon, does councilman gaughan talk about firing people for political opposition? will he get people fired because you don't like them? does he have anything on other people? : : : : :::Jimmy Dixon seems to have said enough for tonight. I hope readers learned something from what he wrote here tonight. It's not a joke. This is what really goes on around here. It goes far beyond the simple minded ramblings of Dixon himself but opens a door to the real life thoughts of these people. : OH!! GIVE IT UP PETE YOU ARE DONE AND BY THE WAY THIS IS NOT JIMMY DIXON I WORK FOR THE JCFD BUT I HAVE A COUSIN AT THE J.C.I.A INIALT'S FRA PI OOP'S SEE YOU SOON THANX!GERRY SEE YOU IN COURT ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sean posted Message 10266 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 21:51:36 Subject: Re: Sean Connors : : Do not insult us, we know what you did and all the "Brothers" you attempted to hurt. I hope you DO run for an office. We are waiting to give you some "payback". Let's see how you hold up to a taste of your own medecin. Thanks a lot "Brother"! : ::::It gets even better. Now Sean tails Mayor Healy for Mc Cann hoping for another photo op. A policeman tailing his own mayor. It really couldn't happen anywhere else. Mc Cann has taken over his mind. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Healy WINS!!!! IT's DONE posted Message 10267 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 21:55:15 Subject: FINALLY It's finally completed Healy will be sworn in by tomorrow. JC IS SO LUCKY, he was known for administering the courts and bringing it to one of the most efficient, judicious municipal courts in the state of N.J. (which I know doesn't count for much). He deserves a chance and so do we, let's all get together and make JC even better than it is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RED FLYER posted Message 10268 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 22:02:04 Subject: Re: pete baron : : : : : : : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car : : : : : : :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff fTYor the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? : : : : : ABSO FREKIN LOOTLY HE GOT CAUGHT RIPPEN DOWN SIGNS ON PATTERSON ST. # LINCOLN ST . GOT PIC'S CALL ME 201 3203728 : : : : : : : :::Jimmy Dixon, does councilman gaughan talk about firing people for political opposition? will he get people fired because you don't like them? does he have anything on other people? : : : : : : :::Jimmy Dixon seems to have said enough for tonight. I hope readers learned something from what he wrote here tonight. It's not a joke. This is what really goes on around here. It goes far beyond the simple minded ramblings of Dixon himself but opens a door to the real life thoughts of these people. : : OH!! GIVE IT UP PETE YOU ARE DONE AND BY THE WAY THIS IS NOT JIMMY DIXON I WORK FOR THE JCFD BUT I HAVE A COUSIN AT THE J.C.I.A INIALT'S FRA PI OOP'S SEE YOU SOON : : ::::red flyer=jimid331@aol.com=Jimmy Dixon Sorry! TELL BARBARA TO WIPE HER MOUTH SEE YOU IN COURT 12/6/04 7TH FLOOR THANK YOU SO MUCH GERRY GOOD BYE FOR NOW;;;;;;;;; ***************** End Of Article ****************** Amen to that posted Message 10269 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 22:10:08 Subject: Re: FINALLY :::Let's hope we can all get on with our lives now. : It's finally completed Healy will be sworn in by tomorrow. JC IS SO LUCKY, he was known for administering the courts and bringing it to one of the most efficient, judicious municipal courts in the state of N.J. (which I know doesn't count for much). He deserves a chance and so do we, let's all get together and make JC even better than it is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** RED FLYER posted Message 10270 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 22:12:07 Subject: Re: pete baron : : : : : : : : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car : : : : : : : :::::Mike, Paul, Red Flyer, Jummy Dixon all the same. Are you threatening some sort of revenge for pete being on another political side? Counselman Gaughan agrees with this? Good stuff fTYor the hearing. keep it coming. will you get pete fired? : : : : : : ABSO FREKIN LOOTLY HE GOT CAUGHT RIPPEN DOWN SIGNS ON PATTERSON ST. # LINCOLN ST . GOT PIC'S CALL ME 201 3203728 : : : : : : : : : :::Jimmy Dixon, does councilman gaughan talk about firing people for political opposition? will he get people fired because you don't like them? does he have anything on other people? : : : : : : : : :::Jimmy Dixon seems to have said enough for tonight. I hope readers learned something from what he wrote here tonight. It's not a joke. This is what really goes on around here. It goes far beyond the simple minded ramblings of Dixon himself but opens a door to the real life thoughts of these people. : : : OH!! GIVE IT UP PETE YOU ARE DONE AND BY THE WAY THIS IS NOT JIMMY DIXON I WORK FOR THE JCFD BUT I HAVE A COUSIN AT THE J.C.I.A INIALT'S FRA PI OOP'S SEE YOU SOON : : WHO IS THIS JIMMY DIXON ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? : : ::::red flyer=jimid331@aol.com=Jimmy Dixon Sorry! : TELL BARBARA TO WIPE HER MOUTH SEE YOU IN COURT 12/6/04 7TH FLOOR THANK YOU SO MUCH GERRY GOOD BYE FOR NOW;;;;;;;;; ***************** End Of Article ****************** Onward to May = DREAM TEAM posted Message 10271 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 22:24:33 Subject: Healy and his council in a landslide DREAM TEAM Healy = Mayor Brennan, Flood, Vega = At Large Kathy Curran = A Rolando Lavarro (Donnelly's ex-aide & Asian)or Frank Pabon = B Steve Lipski = C James Carroll = D Junior Maldonado = E Michael Holloway = F ***************** End Of Article ****************** Atlantic City Barfly posted Message 10272 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 22:26:28 Subject: Re: FINALLY we can set the party at the League Let's have a toast to the new Mayor : :::Let's hope we can all get on with our lives now. : : It's finally completed Healy will be sworn in by tomorrow. JC IS SO LUCKY, he was known for administering the courts and bringing it to one of the most efficient, judicious municipal courts in the state of N.J. (which I know doesn't count for much). He deserves a chance and so do we, let's all get together and make JC even better than it is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Soothsayer posted Message 10273 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 23:36:11 Subject: Fool You continue to prove my point.. FOOL! ***************** End Of Article ****************** You prove everyone else right posted Message 10274 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 23:40:33 Subject: Re: Fool You're just silly...go away. : You continue to prove my point.. FOOL! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 10275 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 11, 2004 at 23:58:34 Subject: Recycled garbage. It would be a shame if Healy picks two weasels like Lipski and Flood. Lipski would sell his own mother to get ahead. And Willie will sit and smile while picking up her check and doing absolutely nothing. ***************** End Of Article ****************** M. posted Message 10276 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 08:05:10 Subject: Re: help wanted : : : LEAD INSPECTOR JERSEY CITY ..SEND RESUME TO 201 CORN. AVE. CARE OF JIMMY DIXON JUNKIES NEED NOT APLY A.K.A. B. RODOLFO. : : :::::Dixon, you need help alright. : ::::No junkies? Check yourself out, dickson. remember the restraining orders I know of a couple of qualifications for the job of lead inspector ***************** End Of Article ****************** amazed at dixon posted Message 10277 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 08:41:08 Subject: dialogue The dixon, baron dialogue posted earlier is the most amazing thing i have ever read on line. this guy is a menace to those in power around him. ***************** End Of Article ****************** There should be a neutral person counting. posted Message 10278 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 09:00:12 Subject: Counting process The way the process is set up is absolutely fixed. Three questions. Who controls the vote count? The County. Tom, Javier. Who was backing Healy? The County. Who won the election? Healy. (The County) I think there should be people certified from each camp to participate in the counting and certification process. People can be bought and threatened, which I think is the case now. Corruption is alive and well especially in a city as lucrative as Jersey City. Man, this is bad. Who can you trust? I mean the people alledgedly voted for an elected official who admitted to being too drunk and outside naked? Come on. I don't believe he won. Impossible. Either they cheated or the people in this City are ass-holes. True it was dirty politics but the fact still remains IT HAPPENED. I would never vote for that scum-bag Manzo either. Smith just isn't a leader or a people person. That's why I voted for Mrs. Flood they call her an airhead but at least I can trust her. She doesn't even have a dirty jacket like the other people that ran. I really don't know too much about the black vote but I do knoe that she would have won if Harvey smith weren't in the race and she had a little more money. I really think she would do a good job as Mayor. That's how I feel. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Real Talk posted Message 10279 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 09:03:25 Subject: True. Was it 25 or 15 cartridges missing from the machines? I think you may have something there young man. : The way the process is set up is absolutely fixed. Three questions. : Who controls the vote count? : The County. Tom, Javier. : Who was backing Healy? : The County. : Who won the election? : Healy. (The County) : I think there should be people certified from each camp to participate in the counting and certification process. People can be bought and threatened, which I think is the case now. Corruption is alive and well especially in a city as lucrative as Jersey City. : Man, this is bad. Who can you trust? I mean the people alledgedly voted for an elected official who admitted to being too drunk and outside naked? Come on. I don't believe he won. Impossible. Either they cheated or the people in this City are ass-holes. True it was dirty politics but the fact still remains IT HAPPENED. I would never vote for that scum-bag Manzo either. Smith just isn't a leader or a people person. That's why I voted for Mrs. Flood they call her an airhead but at least I can trust her. She doesn't even have a dirty jacket like the other people that ran. I really don't know too much about the black vote but I do knoe that she would have won if Harvey smith weren't in the race and she had a little more money. I really think she would do a good job as Mayor. That's how I feel. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tool Time posted Message 10280 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 09:27:58 Subject: Re: Pat O'Melia asks Javier Inclan why the votes STILL ARE NOT COUNTED! Pat O'Melia.. What a Tool. What a load! ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10281 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 09:29:31 Subject: Flood Bored of Ed Member Some body should investigate how many Board of Ed meetings Ms. Flood has missed. Word is that she rarely attend and when she does it is always late. Then she babbles incoherently at the meetings and comes unprepared. This is an atrocity if our children opted to miss as many classes as she misses meetings they would be expelled. This is what we call leadership GOD help the African Americam community. ***************** End Of Article ****************** team couldn;t win posted Message 10282 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 09:38:43 Subject: Re: Healy and his council in a landslide This team couldn;t win if they were teh only people running... same tired horses. This would be easy pickins for opposition as what would end up happening with this slate is a mayor with ZERO support of a random city council he didn;t run with.... lets analyze.. vega- nope brennan - yes flood- most likley win curran- nope frank pabon- maybe, mary donnelly's aide - nope (because mary has such huge coattaisl because f the great job she has done) lipski- yes carroll - yes junior - nope holloway - nope because no support from cardwell and jackson : DREAM TEAM : Healy = Mayor : Brennan, Flood, Vega = At Large : Kathy Curran = A : Rolando Lavarro (Donnelly's ex-aide & Asian)or Frank Pabon = B : Steve Lipski = C : James Carroll = D : Junior Maldonado = E : Michael Holloway = F ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don LOVES BOYS posted Message 10283 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 09:41:41 Subject: Gay Don Batista come out come out and announce your homosexuality ***************** End Of Article ****************** No Kidding posted Message 10284 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 09:45:02 Subject: Re: Gay Don Batista Everyone knows he is gay whats the big deal : come out come out and announce your homosexuality ***************** End Of Article ****************** everyone knows he and Degise are REAL CLOSE posted Message 10285 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 09:47:39 Subject: Re: Gay Don Batista : Everyone knows he is gay whats the big deal : : : come out come out and announce your homosexuality ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 10286 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 10:04:05 Subject: Flood a disgrace !! I couldn't agree more. Flood should just retire and allow a committed person to take her spot at the BOE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jealousy is a weak emotion. posted Message 10287 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 10:22:18 Subject: You are wrong for disrespecting Mrs. Flood like that. She has probably helped You and you families before. I gaurantee, she has forgotten more than you have ever learned! : I couldn't agree more. Flood should just retire and allow a committed person to take her spot at the BOE. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Flood was PAID to run divide the vote posted Message 10288 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 10:45:33 Subject: Re: Counting process I agree the vote was fixed, look at the earlier postings on this board, Flood was PAID to run, and make sure that Smith didn't win, I wish it were investigated more. We'll see if she gats rewarded with a position for her election "help" : The way the process is set up is absolutely fixed. Three questions. : Who controls the vote count? : The County. Tom, Javier. : Who was backing Healy? : The County. : Who won the election? : Healy. (The County) : I think there should be people certified from each camp to participate in the counting and certification process. People can be bought and threatened, which I think is the case now. Corruption is alive and well especially in a city as lucrative as Jersey City. : Man, this is bad. Who can you trust? I mean the people alledgedly voted for an elected official who admitted to being too drunk and outside naked? Come on. I don't believe he won. Impossible. Either they cheated or the people in this City are ass-holes. True it was dirty politics but the fact still remains IT HAPPENED. I would never vote for that scum-bag Manzo either. Smith just isn't a leader or a people person. That's why I voted for Mrs. Flood they call her an airhead but at least I can trust her. She doesn't even have a dirty jacket like the other people that ran. I really don't know too much about the black vote but I do knoe that she would have won if Harvey smith weren't in the race and she had a little more money. I really think she would do a good job as Mayor. That's how I feel. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jesse posted Message 10289 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 10:48:39 Subject: Can't we All Just Get Along? :) Damn you folks have more configurations in mind than could be made out of a pizza puzzle. How about just waiting and seeing what happens? And then maybe we can all try to do some good for our City instead of tearing it apart into little pieces ward by ward and district by district. Frankly, as far as these "candidates" go ... they're all the same. Taxes will go up. Partonage will rule supreme. A few people will lose jobs. A few more will get jobs. And life will go on. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know Mrs. Flood. posted Message 10290 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 10:58:58 Subject: I can assure you there isn't enough money in the US Mint for Mrs Flood to betray her people. Do you really believe this? Or are you just blowing off that jealous steam. : I agree the vote was fixed, look at the earlier postings on this board, Flood was PAID to run, and make sure that Smith didn't win, I wish it were investigated more. We'll see if she gats rewarded with a position for her election "help" : : The way the process is set up is absolutely fixed. Three questions. : : Who controls the vote count? : : The County. Tom, Javier. : : Who was backing Healy? : : The County. : : Who won the election? : : Healy. (The County) : : I think there should be people certified from each camp to participate in the counting and certification process. People can be bought and threatened, which I think is the case now. Corruption is alive and well especially in a city as lucrative as Jersey City. : : Man, this is bad. Who can you trust? I mean the people alledgedly voted for an elected official who admitted to being too drunk and outside naked? Come on. I don't believe he won. Impossible. Either they cheated or the people in this City are ass-holes. True it was dirty politics but the fact still remains IT HAPPENED. I would never vote for that scum-bag Manzo either. Smith just isn't a leader or a people person. That's why I voted for Mrs. Flood they call her an airhead but at least I can trust her. She doesn't even have a dirty jacket like the other people that ran. I really don't know too much about the black vote but I do knoe that she would have won if Harvey smith weren't in the race and she had a little more money. I really think she would do a good job as Mayor. That's how I feel. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I know her. posted Message 10291 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:00:22 Subject: She STILL want's her checks that Uncle Harvey kept. : I agree the vote was fixed, look at the earlier postings on this board, Flood was PAID to run, and make sure that Smith didn't win, I wish it were investigated more. We'll see if she gats rewarded with a position for her election "help" : : The way the process is set up is absolutely fixed. Three questions. : : Who controls the vote count? : : The County. Tom, Javier. : : Who was backing Healy? : : The County. : : Who won the election? : : Healy. (The County) : : I think there should be people certified from each camp to participate in the counting and certification process. People can be bought and threatened, which I think is the case now. Corruption is alive and well especially in a city as lucrative as Jersey City. : : Man, this is bad. Who can you trust? I mean the people alledgedly voted for an elected official who admitted to being too drunk and outside naked? Come on. I don't believe he won. Impossible. Either they cheated or the people in this City are ass-holes. True it was dirty politics but the fact still remains IT HAPPENED. I would never vote for that scum-bag Manzo either. Smith just isn't a leader or a people person. That's why I voted for Mrs. Flood they call her an airhead but at least I can trust her. She doesn't even have a dirty jacket like the other people that ran. I really don't know too much about the black vote but I do knoe that she would have won if Harvey smith weren't in the race and she had a little more money. I really think she would do a good job as Mayor. That's how I feel. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paid for by the U.E.Z fund. posted Message 10292 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:02:11 Subject: Uncle Harvey for Mayor Isn't that low? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jc advocate posted Message 10293 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:02:59 Subject: Re: Recycled and replenished council : It would be a shame if Healy picks two weasels like Lipski and Flood. Lipski would sell his own mother to get ahead. And Willie will sit and smile while picking up her check and doing absolutely nothing. They were smart enough to run on their own, get 12,000 votes together, keep Harvey and Manzo out of City hall, and set themselves up for May. Not bad! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Paid for by Cultural Affairs posted Message 10294 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:03:31 Subject: Uncle Harvey for Mayor Does he ever use his own money? ***************** End Of Article ****************** She is fair and trustworthy. posted Message 10295 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:06:22 Subject: You're right, but, Mrs. Flood is nothing like the other candidates. : : Damn you folks have more configurations in mind than could be made out of a pizza puzzle. How about just waiting and seeing what happens? And then maybe we can all try to do some good for our City instead of tearing it apart into little pieces ward by ward and district by district. Frankly, as far as these "candidates" go ... they're all the same. Taxes will go up. Partonage will rule supreme. A few people will lose jobs. A few more will get jobs. And life will go on. ***************** End Of Article ****************** King Jim posted Message 10296 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:07:48 Subject: Re: Baron Pete is barren : its back to sweeping the streets again no more taking your daughter to school and waiting for the sweeper so you can move your car Tood-a-lu ***************** End Of Article ****************** The downfall posted Message 10297 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:08:16 Subject: Bill O'Dea ,The Manzo Campaign manager Bill O'Dea was the man behind the haha website and was also the man who wrote the mailings and articles attacking Healy for the Manzo campaign. Bill O'dea was Lou's campaign manager...Don't forget it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Things to make you go HMMMMMMMM? posted Message 10298 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:11:03 Subject: What about the MISSING votes? What about the MISSING Cartridges? How did they go missing? Where were they? Who took them? Who found them? Just a few questions I have. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Conspiracy Theorist. posted Message 10299 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:13:23 Subject: I smell a cheat! I follow the signs. : Just a few questions I have. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sage posted Message 10300 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:15:13 Subject: Yeah. They took notes from BUSH from the first election. : I follow the signs. : : Just a few questions I have. ***************** End Of Article ****************** They just wanted to discourage her or any other black person from ever running for Mayor posted Message 10301 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:18:24 Subject: I think Mrs Flood got more votes than advertised. Political games. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WRONG, WRONG posted Message 10302 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:19:26 Subject: Re: Bill O'Dea ,The Manzo Campaign manager NOT TRUE....IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING, YOU KNOW THAT JERRY MC CANN WAS BEHIND IT ALL AND HE WAS OUT OF CONTROL. NO ONE COULD STOP HIM FROM DOING IT...BILLY O'DEA WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH IT BUT WAS POWERLESS TO STOP IT. : Bill O'Dea was the man behind the haha website and was also the man who wrote the mailings and articles attacking Healy for the Manzo campaign. Bill O'dea was Lou's campaign manager...Don't forget it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** No way! posted Message 10303 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:31:50 Subject: Re: I think Mrs Flood got more votes than advertised. You jungle bunnies can vote anytime you like. It will only take a few minutes away from Jacking cars, selling drugs, prostetution, B&E's, drive by's and all that stuff you do. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Search Lou and McCann posted Message 10304 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:34:17 Subject: Re: What about the MISSING votes? What about the MISSING Cartridges? How did they go missing? Where were they? Who took them? Who found them? they are in the trunk of one of their cars! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Right, Right, Right posted Message 10305 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:36:28 Subject: Re: Bill O'Dea ,The Manzo Campaign manager : The whole bunch of you slim balls are responsible. We will not forget you all! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fernando posted Message 10306 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:42:45 Subject: Willie - You look marvelous !!! You haven't got a brain in your head. You've been on the pad forever. And I still can't understand how all these dopey black people vote for you. But you look marvelous darling !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jealously is a weak emotion. posted Message 10307 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 11:53:35 Subject: And where did you get your degree? Online? : You haven't got a brain in your head. You've been on the pad forever. And I still can't understand how all these dopey black people vote for you. : But you look marvelous darling !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Swearing in @ 3:00 posted Message 10308 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 12:03:04 Subject: It's Official!! It is OFFICIAL, the Mayor's swearing in will be at 3:00 at the Old Courthouse ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bill posted Message 10309 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 12:08:36 Subject: Will he be drunk and naked : It is OFFICIAL, the Mayor's swearing in will be at 3:00 at the Old Courthouse ***************** End Of Article ****************** I heard 3pm in City Hall Rotunda posted Message 10310 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 12:09:03 Subject: Re: It's Official!! : It is OFFICIAL, the Mayor's swearing in will be at 3:00 at the Old Courthouse ***************** End Of Article ****************** A sad day for Jersey City posted Message 10311 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 12:10:44 Subject: Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs.Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs.Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't ***************** End Of Article ****************** At the Astor bar 3pm posted Message 10312 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 12:13:15 Subject: Re: It's Official!! : : It is OFFICIAL, the Mayor's swearing in will be at 3:00 at the Old Courthouse ***************** End Of Article ****************** Let's Hope Not, (areas too small) posted Message 10313 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 12:14:52 Subject: Re: Will he be drunk and naked : : It is OFFICIAL, the Mayor's swearing in will be at 3:00 at the Old Courthouse If he's drunk and naked there will be even more people there than we caould handle. If that 'sa all you can acclaim and state u r a loser. What about integrity, honesty, leadership, intelligence. Who'd u want the #'s people back again ***************** End Of Article ****************** Kindness, empathy and understanding posted Message 10314 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 12:21:53 Subject: Re: And where did you get your degree? Online? : : You haven't got a brain in your head. You've been on the pad forever. And I still can't understand how all these dopey black people vote for you. : : But you look marvelous darling !!! U would rather have all the samo samo in office there are different positions in Gov't that require different personalities. Unless u r dealing with a fascist state. Get a life, look at the entire picture. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Apollyon posted Message 10315 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 12:25:40 Subject: You lost !! Deal with it !! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fernando posted Message 10316 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 12:32:23 Subject: San Juan Beauticians School That's why we love Willie. She spends all her time with us at the beauty parlor. Those little children in the JC Schools will do fine whether she is absent from or asleep at the BOE meetings. All that matters Willie is - You look marvelous !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10317 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 12:41:21 Subject: Swearing in for Jerry Healy today, 3PM, at the Old Couthouse? I hear that the swearing in for Jerry Healy is today, 3PM, at the Old Couthouse. Can anybody confirm this? I called the Mayor's Action Bureau at 201-547-4900. A woman told me that she thought the event was at City Hall, but she wasn't sure. I then spoke to a man in the same office who said that there was going to be a press conference at the County Building, but he didn't know about any swearing in ceremony. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jackson and Cardwell posted Message 10318 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 12:51:40 Subject: Willie Flood sold out the black community for money and a job Let's see if whitey really keeps his promise to you, Aunt Willie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Swearing in will take place at Old Court House Rotunda at 3pm immediately after vote certified. posted Message 10319 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 12:54:42 Subject: Re: Swearing in for Jerry Healy today, 3PM, at the Old Couthouse? : I hear that the swearing in for Jerry Healy is today, 3PM, at the Old Couthouse. Can anybody confirm this? : I called the Mayor's Action Bureau at 201-547-4900. A woman told me that she thought the event was at City Hall, but she wasn't sure. I then spoke to a man in the same office who said that there was going to be a press conference at the County Building, but he didn't know about any swearing in ceremony. ***************** End Of Article ****************** dixon does it posted Message 10320 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 13:14:22 Subject: dixon jimmy dixon strikes again. read the pete b aron exchanges from yesterday..even his father in law and mr degise will be shocked. ***************** End Of Article ****************** KKK Wants you! posted Message 10321 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 13:15:45 Subject: Re: I think Mrs Flood got more votes than advertised. Das nots whta we gote to know. Da blackman he is black and the white guy he's be white! Next election only those who gots Families First Cards can vote! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Ma Man posted Message 10322 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 13:18:22 Subject: Re: Willie Flood sold out the black community for money and a job : Whitey gona give it to you girl. They just love our big lips! ***************** End Of Article ****************** mc cann's pants posted Message 10323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 13:48:54 Subject: Re: I smell a cheat! : I follow the signs. : : Just a few questions I have. :::you smell mc cann's pants now that he realizes what he's done. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mc cann's pants posted Message 10323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 13:48:58 Subject: Re: I smell a cheat! : I follow the signs. : : Just a few questions I have. :::you smell mc cann's pants now that he realizes what he's done. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mc cann's pants posted Message 10323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 13:48:58 Subject: Re: I smell a cheat! : I follow the signs. : : Just a few questions I have. :::you smell mc cann's pants now that he realizes what he's done. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mc cann's pants posted Message 10323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 13:49:08 Subject: Re: I smell a cheat! : I follow the signs. : : Just a few questions I have. :::you smell mc cann's pants now that he realizes what he's done. ***************** End Of Article ****************** mc cann's pants posted Message 10323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 13:49:24 Subject: Re: I smell a cheat! : I follow the signs. : : Just a few questions I have. :::you smell mc cann's pants now that he realizes what he's done. ***************** End Of Article ****************** please pat posted Message 10323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 13:52:33 Subject: Re: dixon : jimmy dixon strikes again. read the pete b aron exchanges from yesterday..even his father in law and mr degise will be shocked. :::Pat Omelia-interview jimmy dixon. ask him how he can fire people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** please pat posted Message 10323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 13:52:47 Subject: Re: dixon : jimmy dixon strikes again. read the pete b aron exchanges from yesterday..even his father in law and mr degise will be shocked. :::Pat Omelia-interview jimmy dixon. ask him how he can fire people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** please pat posted Message 10323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 13:52:48 Subject: Re: dixon : jimmy dixon strikes again. read the pete b aron exchanges from yesterday..even his father in law and mr degise will be shocked. :::Pat Omelia-interview jimmy dixon. ask him how he can fire people. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 14:01:31 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Real Deal - Eat it and Weep posted Message 10323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 14:05:42 Subject: Manzo insisted he didn't have sex with that man....no matter how manypeople testified that he had been seen in compromising positions with Dannyy on several occassions. "I refuse to admit that I am Gay man," Manzo protested repeatedly as they flashed photos of the two together in dozens of encounters. With nothing left of his manhood, Manzo bowed his head in resignation. And he, the governor and Golan Cipel left the City for an unknown location. : Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs.Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Real Deal - Eat it and Weep posted Message 10323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 14:06:14 Subject: Manzo insisted he didn't have sex with that man....no matter how manypeople testified that he had been seen in compromising positions with Dannyy on several occassions. "I refuse to admit that I am Gay man," Manzo protested repeatedly as they flashed photos of the two together in dozens of encounters. With nothing left of his manhood, Manzo bowed his head in resignation. And he, the governor and Golan Cipel left the City for an unknown location. : Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs.Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Real Deal - Eat it and Weep posted Message 10323 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 14:06:16 Subject: Manzo insisted he didn't have sex with that man....no matter how manypeople testified that he had been seen in compromising positions with Dannyy on several occassions. "I refuse to admit that I am Gay man," Manzo protested repeatedly as they flashed photos of the two together in dozens of encounters. With nothing left of his manhood, Manzo bowed his head in resignation. And he, the governor and Golan Cipel left the City for an unknown location. : Healy said he was locked out of the house, according to Rodriguez, who also noted that a pile of clothing was on the front porch near the stairs.Last week, Mr. Healy said that photographs showing him naked were the result of a night out drinking six to eight beers over a three-hour period - though he is still scratching his head and wondering how he ended up on the porch. I wish I recall how I got back out there, he said. But I don't ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 14:12:47 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 14:45:05 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. We experienced technical difficulties. The problem should now be fixed. Thank you for your patience. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 14:54:00 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. We experienced technical difficulties. The problem should now be fixed. Thank you for your patience. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 15:05:27 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. We experienced technical difficulties. The problem should now be fixed. Thank you for your patience. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 15:18:23 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. We experienced technical difficulties. The problem should now be fixed. Thank you for your patience. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 15:31:00 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. We experienced technical difficulties. The problem should now be fixed. Thank you for your patience. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Well??? posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 15:31:50 Subject: Well???? Did Healy get sworn in or not?? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 15:38:14 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. We experienced technical difficulties. The problem should now be fixed. Thank you for your patience. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 15:44:39 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. We experienced technical difficulties. The problem should now be fixed. Thank you for your patience. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 15:51:24 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. We experienced technical difficulties. The problem should now be fixed. Thank you for your patience. ***************** End Of Article ****************** heightster posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 15:51:48 Subject: Re: It's Official!! Has he been sworn it yet??? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 16:03:33 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. We experienced technical difficulties. The problem should now be fixed. Thank you for your patience. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 18:23:58 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 18:31:56 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10326 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 19:01:27 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10327 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 19:08:30 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** dixon speaks posted Message 10328 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 19:09:20 Subject: dixon interview :::::Pat Omelia, can you interview jimmy dixon about how he can arrange to fire people like he says in all the help wanted and peter baron posts yesterday. if you want a scandal to dig into, that is it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** dixon speaks posted Message 10328 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 19:09:32 Subject: dixon interview :::::Pat Omelia, can you interview jimmy dixon about how he can arrange to fire people like he says in all the help wanted and peter baron posts yesterday. if you want a scandal to dig into, that is it. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10329 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 19:14:26 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** madchef posted Message 10330 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 19:27:48 Subject: Dixon=loser Billy we love you! Dixon I remember you from High School. You are such a looooooooooooooooooser, you haven't changed much it's sad................ Remember me,let me refresh your memory. You were drunk. (that doesn't norrow it down) It was 11/2/2004. (getting closer) You said, "I don't want signs up on my block!" As you riped one (sign)out of a childs hand! You said, " You Manzo guys are known for sukker punching people!" Next time.................. ***************** End Of Article ****************** I'm certain Glenn is looking down, not just on me but on everyone who's here - all of these elected officials - and is smiling, because Glenn would be happy to see all this unity, Healy said. posted Message 10332 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 20:18:49 Subject: Healy declared mayor of Jersey City Healy declared mayor of Jersey City By STEVE STRUNSKY The Associated Press JERSEY CITY, N.J. - Councilman Jerramiah Healy was declared mayor of the state's second-largest city Friday, 10 days after a special election that had its final tally delayed by uncollected votes and uncounted provisional and absentee ballots. Healy had led the field of 11 candidates from the time voting ending. He declared victory Election Night and claimed victory again on Friday, hours before the final votes were certified. Assemblyman Louis M. Manzo had been the closest contender from the time the polls closed. Healy takes office to fill the unexpired term of Mayor Glenn D. Cunningham, who died of a heart attack in May. The term ends June 30. A regular election for a full four-year term is to be held in May. The election was certified by officials Friday and Healy immediately gave an inaugural address to a crowd that included the state's incoming acting governor, state Senate President Richard Codey. Healy in his speech said his predecessor was a personal friend despite their sometimes having disagreements. "I'm certain Glenn is looking down, not just on me but on everyone who's here - all of these elected officials - and is smiling, because Glenn would be happy to see all this unity," Healy said. The final tally showed Healy with 17,401 votes, beating Manzo by 2,242 ballots. While City Council President and Acting Mayor L. Harvey Smith had cleared out his desk in the mayor's office soon after the election, Manzo had refused to concede the race. He cited the large number of uncounted ballots, and asserting that thousands of votes cast in the city's electronic voting machines may not have been recorded at all due to malfunctions. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McAllister broke the piggy bank posted Message 10333 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:17:54 Subject: Answer to Harvey for Mayor Paid for by Cultural Affairs In Harvey Smith's term for acting Mayor, McAllister broke the Cultural Affairs piggy bank to pay for block party after block party in ward F to try to buy to the black community for Smith. Mr. Healy beware, there's NO MULA in Cultural Affairs. You have sellouts McAllister, Perkins and Eason to thank for that. They 'worked' for harvey, but were pandering to Flood and Manzo at the same time. City money was spend on a political campain against you. Watch them like a hawk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WE TOLD YOU WARD F WASTED THEIR VOTE posted Message 10334 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:35:28 Subject: Re: Willie Flood sold out the black community for money and a job : Let's see if whitey really keeps his promise to you, Aunt Willie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WE TOLD YOU WARD F WASTED THEIR VOTE posted Message 10334 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:35:49 Subject: Re: Willie Flood sold out the black community for money and a job : Let's see if whitey really keeps his promise to you, Aunt Willie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WE TOLD YOU WARD F WASTED THEIR VOTE posted Message 10334 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:35:52 Subject: Re: Willie Flood sold out the black community for money and a job : Let's see if whitey really keeps his promise to you, Aunt Willie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WE TOLD YOU WARD F WASTED THEIR VOTE posted Message 10334 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:35:54 Subject: Re: Willie Flood sold out the black community for money and a job : Let's see if whitey really keeps his promise to you, Aunt Willie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WE TOLD YOU WARD F WASTED THEIR VOTE posted Message 10334 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:35:55 Subject: Re: Willie Flood sold out the black community for money and a job : Let's see if whitey really keeps his promise to you, Aunt Willie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** WE TOLD YOU WARD F WASTED THEIR VOTE posted Message 10335 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:36:00 Subject: Re: Willie Flood sold out the black community for money and a job : Let's see if whitey really keeps his promise to you, Aunt Willie. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandy Cunningham for the assembly posted Message 10336 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:40:29 Subject: Ward F ready for another sale out Sandy wants the assembly seat, The queen want to have ward F for sale one more time wasnt enough the mayor race with Ms Flood now the legislature . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandy Cunningham for the assembly posted Message 10336 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:40:42 Subject: Ward F ready for another sale out Sandy wants the assembly seat, The queen want to have ward F for sale one more time wasnt enough the mayor race with Ms Flood now the legislature . ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sandy Cunningham for the assembly posted Message 10336 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:40:47 Subject: Ward F ready for another sale out Sandy wants the assembly seat, The queen want to have ward F for sale one more time wasnt enough the mayor race with Ms Flood now the legislature . ***************** End Of Article ****************** McAllister broke the piggy bank posted Message 10337 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:40:55 Subject: Answer to Harvey for Mayor Paid for by Cultural Affairs In Harvey Smith's term for acting Mayor, McAllister broke the Cultural Affairs piggy bank to pay for block party after block party in ward F to try to buy to the black community for Smith. Mr. Healy beware, there's NO MULA in Cultural Affairs. You have sellouts McAllister, Perkins and Eason to thank for that. They 'worked' for harvey, but were pandering to Flood and Manzo at the same time. City money was spend on a political campain against you. Watch them like a hawk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McAllister broke the piggy bank posted Message 10337 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:41:07 Subject: Answer to Harvey for Mayor Paid for by Cultural Affairs In Harvey Smith's term for acting Mayor, McAllister broke the Cultural Affairs piggy bank to pay for block party after block party in ward F to try to buy to the black community for Smith. Mr. Healy beware, there's NO MULA in Cultural Affairs. You have sellouts McAllister, Perkins and Eason to thank for that. They 'worked' for harvey, but were pandering to Flood and Manzo at the same time. City money was spend on a political campain against you. Watch them like a hawk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McAllister moral value naked woman on computer !!!!!!! posted Message 10338 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:47:15 Subject: Re: Answer to Harvey for Mayor Paid for by Cultural Affairs : In Harvey Smith's term for acting Mayor, McAllister broke the Cultural Affairs piggy bank to pay for block party after block party in ward F to try to buy to the black community for Smith. Mr. Healy beware, there's NO MULA in Cultural Affairs. You have sellouts McAllister, Perkins and Eason to thank for that. They 'worked' for harvey, but were pandering to Flood and Manzo at the same time. City money was spend on a political campain against you. Watch them like a hawk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McAllister moral value naked woman on computer !!!!!!! posted Message 10338 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 21:47:21 Subject: Re: Answer to Harvey for Mayor Paid for by Cultural Affairs : In Harvey Smith's term for acting Mayor, McAllister broke the Cultural Affairs piggy bank to pay for block party after block party in ward F to try to buy to the black community for Smith. Mr. Healy beware, there's NO MULA in Cultural Affairs. You have sellouts McAllister, Perkins and Eason to thank for that. They 'worked' for harvey, but were pandering to Flood and Manzo at the same time. City money was spend on a political campain against you. Watch them like a hawk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Look out Healy the Knife is coming posted Message 10339 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 22:24:56 Subject: McAllister goes to the highest Bidder....ALways McAllister come in with the weasel McCann and slithered his way through the rest of those fools admins by making promises he never kept. If you keep him...watch him like a hawk. And remember that any kid outa of the Snyder production class can run that studio. McAllister likes to use that to keep himself employed. But he don't know shiat. I've been in Horan's class and I can run circles around that fool. Just a word to the man Healy... keep a close eye on that one. He b a snake. : In Harvey Smith's term for acting Mayor, McAllister broke the Cultural Affairs piggy bank to pay for block party after block party in ward F to try to buy to the black community for Smith. Mr. Healy beware, there's NO MULA in Cultural Affairs. You have sellouts McAllister, Perkins and Eason to thank for that. They 'worked' for harvey, but were pandering to Flood and Manzo at the same time. City money was spend on a political campain against you. Watch them like a hawk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Look out Healy the Knife is coming posted Message 10339 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 22:25:18 Subject: McAllister goes to the highest Bidder....ALways McAllister come in with the weasel McCann and slithered his way through the rest of those fools admins by making promises he never kept. If you keep him...watch him like a hawk. And remember that any kid outa of the Snyder production class can run that studio. McAllister likes to use that to keep himself employed. But he don't know shiat. I've been in Horan's class and I can run circles around that fool. Just a word to the man Healy... keep a close eye on that one. He b a snake. : In Harvey Smith's term for acting Mayor, McAllister broke the Cultural Affairs piggy bank to pay for block party after block party in ward F to try to buy to the black community for Smith. Mr. Healy beware, there's NO MULA in Cultural Affairs. You have sellouts McAllister, Perkins and Eason to thank for that. They 'worked' for harvey, but were pandering to Flood and Manzo at the same time. City money was spend on a political campain against you. Watch them like a hawk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Look out Healy the Knife is coming posted Message 10339 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 22:25:21 Subject: McAllister goes to the highest Bidder....ALways McAllister come in with the weasel McCann and slithered his way through the rest of those fools admins by making promises he never kept. If you keep him...watch him like a hawk. And remember that any kid outa of the Snyder production class can run that studio. McAllister likes to use that to keep himself employed. But he don't know shiat. I've been in Horan's class and I can run circles around that fool. Just a word to the man Healy... keep a close eye on that one. He b a snake. : In Harvey Smith's term for acting Mayor, McAllister broke the Cultural Affairs piggy bank to pay for block party after block party in ward F to try to buy to the black community for Smith. Mr. Healy beware, there's NO MULA in Cultural Affairs. You have sellouts McAllister, Perkins and Eason to thank for that. They 'worked' for harvey, but were pandering to Flood and Manzo at the same time. City money was spend on a political campain against you. Watch them like a hawk. ***************** End Of Article ****************** You Have A new Mayor posted Message 10340 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 22:42:56 Subject: Re: Healy Certified! Drunk : It's Official... we have a new Mayor... Mayor Healy! Another scam by the HCDO. Sooner or latter they will get caught. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Father Guido Sarducci posted Message 10341 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 22:55:16 Subject: Be nice now Don't be hating on Richie McAllister. He's ok. Live and let live I always say. BTW, is there a job for an old priest in Cultural Affairs under Healy ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chakotay posted Message 10342 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 12, 2004 at 22:58:47 Subject: Unity !!! Great turnout at the Brennan Court House today. Codey, Corzine, Menendez, Payne, Rothman and a host of others there to support the new Mayor. Good luck Jerramiah Healy !!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lavender is the color posted Message 10343 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2004 at 04:26:41 Subject: Re: Bill O'Dea ,The Manzo Campaign manager The Lavender Hill Mob Stikes again! ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10344 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 13, 2004 at 05:13:34 Subject: Welcome to the Message Board. Welcome to the Message Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10489 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 17, 2004 at 10:38:47 Subject: Welcome to the Message Archive. Welcome to the Message Archive. For the new Hudson County Politics Message Board, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10490 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2004 at 16:07:37 Subject: Caldwell and Jackson Memories die hard Jackson and Carwell your yellow journalism and the lambasting of key politicos has been too much. Bobby M., Bernie K. etal will never forget your down and low reporting. What's fair is fair what is good for the goose is good for the gander. I guess you will be goosed when you getwhat got coming to you. Ti could never happen to better to a ncer pair of guys. ***************** End Of Article ****************** north Hudson Republican posted Message 10491 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2004 at 16:11:15 Subject: Schundler is a fake Schundler isn't really a Republican. For starters he wanted to run for the state senate as a Democrat but the HCDO wouldn't put him on the ballot. As a scam he switched parties an ran as a Republican. Newt Gingrich and the rest of the DC Republicans fell for the con and the rest is history. Schundler has been poison to the Hudson County Republicans. He every time and time again promises all sorts of big shot help but comes up with nothing. Schundler instead sponges up everything to himself from the local peoples. Schundler keeps coming up with Forbes (AKA 0 delegates) but Schundler instead winds up saying that he has no money. All Schundler cares about is Degise, Kenny and Menendez. Schundler has been very good for them. Remember Schundler was to help his Democrat buddies by running against Cunningham as mayor. Menendez new that McGreevey was deep in the XanaDooDoo. Schundler is to run so that Corzine has an easy punching bag. Watch out Republicans for many in the state is in on it ready to take the monye and run so that Corzine is an easy in. Watch and see Difrancesco say that he is letting bygones go by then you no for sure that the fix is in. Schundler will take a dive by bouncing around New Jersey talking like he is in a cowboy state. And Sal why don't you tell it straight that Lonegan is right and not only that but you is a faker yourself. When you was working for Forrester abortion was just fine remember you kept telling everyone that Forrester was the help on the way. And don't go an fool the people with a lie by comparing Schundler to Bush by sayint that any question is like Fahrenheit 911 for we all know that Schundler is despised by Bush. The White House gave not a single job or appointment to anyone with Schundler. That door was shut in Schundler's face many time. I am a Republican from north Hudson. I will post all the scams and cons and frauds that Schundler has pulled here so that the entire state can no his true look, The sheep skin does not change the wolf. I am writing them all down ad will try to post as many and as soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Schundler Hudson County favor son and the next Candidate for govenor Schundler the winner the AKKA republican the looser keep working for the dems.... posted Message 10492 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2004 at 18:55:05 Subject: Re: Schundler is a fake : Schundler isn't really a Republican. For starters he wanted to run for the state senate as a Democrat but the HCDO wouldn't put him on the ballot. As a scam he switched parties an ran as a Republican. Newt Gingrich and the rest of the DC Republicans fell for the con and the rest is history. Schundler has been poison to the Hudson County Republicans. He every time and time again promises all sorts of big shot help but comes up with nothing. Schundler instead sponges up everything to himself from the local peoples. Schundler keeps coming up with Forbes (AKA 0 delegates) but Schundler instead winds up saying that he has no money. All Schundler cares about is Degise, Kenny and Menendez. Schundler has been very good for them. Remember Schundler was to help his Democrat buddies by running against Cunningham as mayor. Menendez new that McGreevey was deep in the XanaDooDoo. Schundler is to run so that Corzine has an easy punching bag. Watch out Republicans for many in the state is in on it ready to take the monye and run so that Corzine is an easy in. Watch and see Difrancesco say that he is letting bygones go by then you no for sure that the fix is in. Schundler will take a dive by bouncing around New Jersey talking like he is in a cowboy state. : And Sal why don't you tell it straight that Lonegan is right and not only that but you is a faker yourself. When you was working for Forrester abortion was just fine remember you kept telling everyone that Forrester was the help on the way. And don't go an fool the people with a lie by comparing Schundler to Bush by sayint that any question is like Fahrenheit 911 for we all know that Schundler is despised by Bush. The White House gave not a single job or appointment to anyone with Schundler. That door was shut in Schundler's face many time. : I am a Republican from north Hudson. I will post all the scams and cons and frauds that Schundler has pulled here so that the entire state can no his true look, The sheep skin does not change the wolf. I am writing them all down ad will try to post as many and as soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** LONEGAN AND HIS CAMPAING MGR. ON DEMOCRATIC PAYROLL FROM THE BOSSES IN BERGEN CO. DEMS RICK YOU ARE FOR SALE ASK THE DEMS FROM HUDSON CORRUPT ORG. RICK AND CORRUPTION PERFECT TOGETHER....LONOGAN POOR SOUL... posted Message 10493 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 18, 2004 at 19:00:34 Subject: Re: Schundler is a fake : : Schundler isn't really a Republican. For starters he wanted to run for the state senate as a Democrat but the HCDO wouldn't put him on the ballot. As a scam he switched parties an ran as a Republican. Newt Gingrich and the rest of the DC Republicans fell for the con and the rest is history. Schundler has been poison to the Hudson County Republicans. He every time and time again promises all sorts of big shot help but comes up with nothing. Schundler instead sponges up everything to himself from the local peoples. Schundler keeps coming up with Forbes (AKA 0 delegates) but Schundler instead winds up saying that he has no money. All Schundler cares about is Degise, Kenny and Menendez. Schundler has been very good for them. Remember Schundler was to help his Democrat buddies by running against Cunningham as mayor. Menendez new that McGreevey was deep in the XanaDooDoo. Schundler is to run so that Corzine has an easy punching bag. Watch out Republicans for many in the state is in on it ready to take the monye and run so that Corzine is an easy in. Watch and see Difrancesco say that he is letting bygones go by then you no for sure that the fix is in. Schundler will take a dive by bouncing around New Jersey talking like he is in a cowboy state. : : And Sal why don't you tell it straight that Lonegan is right and not only that but you is a faker yourself. When you was working for Forrester abortion was just fine remember you kept telling everyone that Forrester was the help on the way. And don't go an fool the people with a lie by comparing Schundler to Bush by sayint that any question is like Fahrenheit 911 for we all know that Schundler is despised by Bush. The White House gave not a single job or appointment to anyone with Schundler. That door was shut in Schundler's face many time. : : I am a Republican from north Hudson. I will post all the scams and cons and frauds that Schundler has pulled here so that the entire state can no his true look, The sheep skin does not change the wolf. I am writing them all down ad will try to post as many and as soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10494 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 19, 2004 at 03:41:46 Subject: Bored of Education Board of Education member Willie Flood is so inept and incompetent that she literally muffles and garles the Kings English. Other hawe a book with Floodisms defining what she means in a certain subject. When she speaks she make Jesse Jackson look like a Harvard debate tean member. Her ineptitude is further magnified by two idiot savants she keeps company with namely Jackson and Cardwwell. God save the HCDO from the likes of this three stooges lie outfit. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10494 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 19, 2004 at 03:41:48 Subject: Bored of Education Board of Education member Willie Flood is so inept and incompetent that she literally muffles and garles the Kings English. Other hawe a book with Floodisms defining what she means in a certain subject. When she speaks she make Jesse Jackson look like a Harvard debate tean member. Her ineptitude is further magnified by two idiot savants she keeps company with namely Jackson and Cardwwell. God save the HCDO from the likes of this three stooges lie outfit. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Schundler Hudson County favor son and the next Candidate for govenor Schundler the winner the AKKA republican the looser keep working for the dems.... posted Message 10495 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 19, 2004 at 05:20:17 Subject: Re: Schundler is a fake : Schundler isn't really a Republican. For starters he wanted to run for the state senate as a Democrat but the HCDO wouldn't put him on the ballot. As a scam he switched parties an ran as a Republican. Newt Gingrich and the rest of the DC Republicans fell for the con and the rest is history. Schundler has been poison to the Hudson County Republicans. He every time and time again promises all sorts of big shot help but comes up with nothing. Schundler instead sponges up everything to himself from the local peoples. Schundler keeps coming up with Forbes (AKA 0 delegates) but Schundler instead winds up saying that he has no money. All Schundler cares about is Degise, Kenny and Menendez. Schundler has been very good for them. Remember Schundler was to help his Democrat buddies by running against Cunningham as mayor. Menendez new that McGreevey was deep in the XanaDooDoo. Schundler is to run so that Corzine has an easy punching bag. Watch out Republicans for many in the state is in on it ready to take the monye and run so that Corzine is an easy in. Watch and see Difrancesco say that he is letting bygones go by then you no for sure that the fix is in. Schundler will take a dive by bouncing around New Jersey talking like he is in a cowboy state. : And Sal why don't you tell it straight that Lonegan is right and not only that but you is a faker yourself. When you was working for Forrester abortion was just fine remember you kept telling everyone that Forrester was the help on the way. And don't go an fool the people with a lie by comparing Schundler to Bush by sayint that any question is like Fahrenheit 911 for we all know that Schundler is despised by Bush. The White House gave not a single job or appointment to anyone with Schundler. That door was shut in Schundler's face many time. : I am a Republican from north Hudson. I will post all the scams and cons and frauds that Schundler has pulled here so that the entire state can no his true look, The sheep skin does not change the wolf. I am writing them all down ad will try to post as many and as soon. ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10496 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 19, 2004 at 05:28:18 Subject: Welcome to the Message Archive. Welcome to the Message Archive. For the new Hudson County Politics Message Board, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10497 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 19, 2004 at 19:11:38 Subject: Bourbon Times Your staff writers are either drunk or smoking some tree. Ignorance is remedial but stupidy is permanent. Jackson and Cardwell could use an infusion of intellect. Can you guys come up with something more original than bias and bigotry. Stupid, myopic and intellectually challenged people resort to the form of yellow journalism you print. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anonymous Political Observer posted Message 10498 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 20, 2004 at 15:19:01 Subject: The Grand Old Idiots (GOI) may be at it again?? I was tipped about this political message forum a few months ago and decided to take a closer look. As an out of state Political Observer, I decided to go down to Jersey City, which by the way is a disgusting and filthy city, to observe the special election for mayor. I managed to speak to hundreds of would be voters and I quickly realized that this race is very tight. However, according to the local polls, a candidate by the name of Louis Manzo was way in the lead or at least that’s what it seemed like. I have recently learned that there is a good chance that those polls showing Manzo way in the lead never really took place. As the race began to wind down, I concluded that this way a 3-person race. Then the strangest happened, a naked picture of the eventual winner began circulating around the city and eventually into the news. What looked like a potentially damaging incident for Healy, turned into a shot in the arm for Healy who admitted to the condition he find himself in when the photo was taken. This gave birth to a group of satellite supporters for Louis Manzo now known on the streets of Jersey City as the Grand Old Idiots (GOI). From what I have learned, this group is not directly linked to the Manzo Camp, but was thought to be behind the naked picture of Healy and the subsequent website which featured the picture in an all out propaganda campaign against Healy. My experience and many years of observing politics on all levels has taught me that when a politician is caught with his or her hand in the cookie jar or his or her pants down and admits fault, the general public usually views that positively. That’s exactly what happened here. The Healy camp not only admitted to the incident, but also spun it into a positive and rode it right into victory. If Louis Manzo or any other candidate has any hopes of ever becoming mayor of Jersey City all associations with groups like the GOI must end. The GOI has reportedly proclaimed the naked photo campaign a success. These incompetent idiots don’t see the errors of their ways, which is the point of my one time message on this forum. If these tactics carry over into the next election sometime in the spring of 2005, Mayor Healy and his entire family should all pose naked on their porch with each holding a longneck of Budweiser and invite all in the local media for a photo op. This will surely propel them to a landslide victory. Signing OFF………………. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10499 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 21, 2004 at 09:29:14 Subject: Mayoral Pictures The person most responsible for the publishing of said naked pictures was Jerry Mc Klan. I was told that he was trying to peddle these pictures to opposing political camps and we all know that he is tied at the hip with Louis M. Lets get it straight and don,t try to disavow the obvious involvement of the Manzo camp in this lowest form of dirty gutter politics. Jerry's head should be the first to roll. Lets not forget his historical involvement with Jackson and Cardwell and the possibility that the Bourbon Times may have had a peripheral involvement in this matter also. Pox on you houses Bobby and Joe. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Don't Lie posted Message 10500 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 21, 2004 at 10:20:53 Subject: Re: Mayoral Pictures : The person most responsible for the publishing of said naked pictures was Jerry Mc Klan. I was told that he was trying to peddle these pictures to opposing political camps and we all know that he is tied at the hip with Louis M. Lets get it straight and don,t try to disavow the obvious involvement of the Manzo camp in this lowest form of dirty gutter politics. Jerry's head should be the first to roll. Lets not forget his historical involvement with Jackson and Cardwell and the possibility that the Bourbon Times may have had a peripheral involvement in this matter also. Pox on you houses Bobby and Joe. It seems the pictures trouble you. They are what they are, in all their naked glory. Hope you like your new mayor, maybe you should pose for a pciture with him? ***************** End Of Article ****************** frankiedank posted Message 10501 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 21, 2004 at 20:27:54 Subject: Re: Mayoral Pictures : : The person most responsible for the publishing of said naked pictures was Jerry Mc Klan. I was told that he was trying to peddle these pictures to opposing political camps and we all know that he is tied at the hip with Louis M. Lets get it straight and don,t try to disavow the obvious involvement of the Manzo camp in this lowest form of dirty gutter politics. Jerry's head should be the first to roll. Lets not forget his historical involvement with Jackson and Cardwell and the possibility that the Bourbon Times may have had a peripheral involvement in this matter also. Pox on you houses Bobby and Joe. : : It seems the pictures trouble you. They are what they are, in all their naked glory. Hope you like your new mayor, maybe you should pose for a pciture with him? Why is this "dirty gutter politics"? Is it because your man was found with his pants off? And who cares who was behind the photo? The voters have the right to know what a mayoral candidate does. He broke the law when he was outside naked. Being in a drunken state is no excuse. Had I done that, I would have been arrested and charged. ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10502 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 22, 2004 at 16:32:40 Subject: Bored of Frozen Freeloaders It would be a disgrace if the County of Hudson along with its water front municipalities bail the ferry line water services. We are already financially strapped. the HCDO should not be in the business of providing financial golden parachutes for these well off millionaires. At least Trump declares bankruptcy and fnancially regroup his empire why can't these idiots do the same. Bailing ferries (fairies) is the Democratic organizations down fall figuratively and literally. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Idiots - The Key Word posted Message 10503 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 23, 2004 at 11:05:19 Subject: Re: Bored of Frozen Freeloaders You got the answer, the Freeholders, at least those beholden to Porkey Pig Menendez are just empty suits, they show up but vote expactly like Menendez orders them to. : It would be a disgrace if the County of Hudson along with its water front municipalities bail the ferry line water services. We are already financially strapped. the HCDO should not be in the business of providing financial golden parachutes for these well off millionaires. At least Trump declares bankruptcy and fnancially regroup his empire why can't these idiots do the same. : Bailing ferries (fairies) is the Democratic organizations down fall figuratively and literally. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jon Cramwell posted Message 10504 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 24, 2004 at 07:55:32 Subject: Does McCallister have an open mind? Does he only shutterbug females or does he also photograph artistically guys? Maybe he can be the mayors personal photographer? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Doesn't matter posted Message 10505 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 24, 2004 at 08:14:04 Subject: Re: Does McCallister have an open mind? HE NEVER HAS FILM IN THE CAMERA ANYWAY! : Does he only shutterbug females or does he also photograph artistically guys? Maybe he can be the mayors personal photographer? ***************** End Of Article ****************** DOESN'T MATTER@ posted Message 10506 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 24, 2004 at 08:15:20 Subject: Re: Does McCallister have an open mind? : HE NEVER HAS FILM IN THE CAMERA ANYWAY JUST LIKE THAT MCCORMACK GUY : : Does he only shutterbug females or does he also photograph artistically guys? Maybe he can be the mayors personal photographer? ***************** End Of Article ****************** thankful posted Message 10507 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2004 at 11:37:27 Subject: Gaughans Gaughan daughter running all over town telling people that A: she's going to be running the MUA and B: Her father is not running for councilman but she will take over his spot. Thankfully, the first plot was foiled. God save us from the second. ***************** End Of Article ****************** thankful posted Message 10508 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2004 at 11:47:50 Subject: Gaughans Gaughan daughter running all over town telling people A: She is going to run the MUA and B: Her father is not running for the council next election but she will take his spot on the council. Thankfully , the first plot was foiled. Pray that the second and far worse plot fails as well. Talk about out of control greed and ego. ***************** End Of Article ****************** THANKFUL TOO posted Message 10509 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2004 at 15:29:01 Subject: Re: Gaughans : Gaughan daughter running all over town telling people A: She is going to run the MUA and B: Her father is not running for the council next election but she will take his spot on the council. Thankfully , the first plot was foiled. Pray that the second and far worse plot fails as well. Talk about out of control greed and ego. SHE'LL RUN THE MUA RIGHT INTO THE GROUND ***************** End Of Article ****************** toogay posted Message 10510 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 25, 2004 at 17:50:56 Subject: Re: Does McCallister have an open mind? McCallister is gay ***************** End Of Article ****************** MCALLASTER AND CHANNEL ONE = 0 NO NEWS NO FILM JUST GIVE ME MY CHECK posted Message 10511 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 26, 2004 at 13:54:23 Subject: Re: Does McCallister have an open mind? : Does he only shutterbug females or does he also photograph artistically guys? Maybe he can be the mayors personal photographer? ***************** End Of Article ****************** The city knife posted Message 10512 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 26, 2004 at 14:00:29 Subject: McAllaster is a total do nothing Nude woman on computers kiss the new mayor and keep the show on McAllaster opinion this new guy the mayor dont care about arts so let's keep the gravy train just few words from the cultural director.................keep talking Richard keep talking............ ***************** End Of Article ****************** McAllaster and the McCann phone calls. why? McCann calls McAllaster every single day some thing to investigate............McCann cares about art ....111 McAllaster and McCann real estate deal ....... posted Message 10513 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 26, 2004 at 14:06:37 Subject: Re: McAllaster is a total do nothing : Nude woman on computers kiss the new mayor and keep : the show on McAllaster opinion this new guy the mayor : dont care about arts so let's keep the gravy train just few words from the cultural director.................keep talking Richard keep talking............ ***************** End Of Article ****************** The Sage posted Message 10514 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 26, 2004 at 15:36:32 Subject: Raw Deal Chicken Shack Bobby Jackson's Raw Deal restaurant should be inspected by the health department. Prior to its opening seagulls were numerous in the neighborhood and so were cats. Supiciously the aniaml popualtion has dwindled to nothing. May be the animal rights activist should investigate also. Unless you want a severe case of food poisoning I would not eat that dump. ***************** End Of Article ****************** McAllaster toogay or bi-gay photos of nude man and woman on his computer maybe is only art the art of what sick oldman,his only friend is the big boy are they a couple? posted Message 10515 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 26, 2004 at 18:19:32 Subject: Re: Does McCallister have an open mind? : HE NEVER HAS FILM IN THE CAMERA ANYWAY! : : Does he only shutterbug females or does he also photograph artistically guys? Maybe he can be the mayors personal photographer? ***************** End Of Article ****************** may god help us posted Message 10516 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 27, 2004 at 15:06:30 Subject: Eugene Drayton Model day 666 I heard Eugene Drayton has a history for unfair Labor Practices, Abusive, Liar SOB, Back Dealing and Stabbing, Corrupted, Not showing up to Jobs (OEM under Mayor Smith), Haraasment, Criminal, he seems to be disapprove by HCDO, Cunningham's Political Factor, Hoboken PD, Jersey City Unions, Labor Unions, Civil rights unions, County, Gay and animal rights unions, and properly every state in this union. ***************** End Of Article ****************** UNKNOWN posted Message 10517 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 27, 2004 at 20:22:32 Subject: Re: Kennelly, Dorf and Eason : Rumors start quickly on this board. But I can't see Kennelly leaving his gig in the County for a temp job at 280 Grove. And from what I hear Dorf bounces back and forth to Florida doing video production and PR in Lauderdale and Miami. If Eason plays it right, I expect to see him walking the halls of City Hall at least until Spring. So - is the rumor really true that Dorf will run for a political office?? How can one seriously commit to a political office in Jersey if he is running back and forth from NJ to Florida? : : One view is Jim Kennelly will replace Stan Eason as Director of Communications for the city. Then, the story goes, Brian Dorf will return to the county to assume Kennelly's role. ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 10518 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 28, 2004 at 09:19:35 Subject: Re: Jim Kennelly to replace Stan Eason : As I heard it Eason may stay put. Kennelly stays in the County. And Dorf didn't work for either campaign. Guess we'll have to wait and see. : : : One view is Jim Kennelly will replace Stan Eason as Director of Communications for the city. Then, the story goes, Brian Dorf will return to the county to assume Kennelly's role. : : Dorf was with Manzo. : : Kennelly won't be going anywhere! In Reply to: Re: why dorf was fired posted by unknwn on December 05, 2003 at 21:49:21: thought this guy dorf was fired and practically run out of his job in jersey city - that is what this board of comments says. : : i worked with dorf. he's not a bad guy, he stepped where he didn't belong and attempted to make peace with the north. so he was labeled a traitor for it. and actually, he survived thru more transitions than any other pr director in jc history. guess he did his job. and if you knew your history you would have remembered it was the mayors who kept getting "fired" not the pr guy. he was a survivor. ***************** End Of Article ****************** uukk posted Message 10519 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 29, 2004 at 20:45:16 Subject: Re: Jim Kennelly to replace Stan Eason : GOD HELP US! : : One view is Jim Kennelly will replace Stan Eason as Director of Communications for the city. Then, the story goes, Brian Dorf will return to the county to assume Kennelly's role. I doubt if Dorf would ever return to politics after getting slammed with all the negative PR the last time he was in politics! ***************** End Of Article ****************** ppp posted Message 10520 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 29, 2004 at 21:14:48 Subject: Re: Jim Kennelly to replace Stan Eason : : As I heard it Eason may stay put. Kennelly stays in the County. And Dorf didn't work for either campaign. Guess we'll have to wait and see. : : : : One view is Jim Kennelly will replace Stan Eason as Director of Communications for the city. Then, the story goes, Brian Dorf will return to the county to assume Kennelly's role. : : : Dorf was with Manzo. : : : Kennelly won't be going anywhere! : In Reply to: Re: why dorf was fired posted by unknwn on December 05, 2003 at 21:49:21: : thought this guy dorf was fired and practically run out of his job in jersey city - that is what this board of comments says. : : : i worked with dorf. he's not a bad guy, he stepped where he didn't belong and attempted to make peace with the north. so he was labeled a traitor for it. and actually, he survived thru more transitions than any other pr director in jc history. guess he did his job. and if you knew your history you would have remembered it was the mayors who kept getting "fired" not the pr guy. he was a survivor. So if this guy Dorf is a survivor and did his job, then why are there so many negative comments about him???? How could one consider him as a candidate? ***************** End Of Article ****************** piec5 posted Message 10521 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 30, 2004 at 14:18:42 Subject: Re:hey frakiedank, do you have any naked pictures of your wife? Would you like to buy some? ***************** End Of Article ****************** frankiedank posted Message 10522 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 30, 2004 at 20:30:55 Subject: Re:hey frakiedank, do you have any naked pictures of your wife? : Would you like to buy some? Yes I would. Do you have any for me? If so, let's get together and I'll give you the payment. Oh wait, you have your head so far up Healys' ass you can't get it out. Oh, and punks like you will always hide behing the keyboard and talk shlt about someones spouse as opposed to directing your comments to me about me. Since you seem to know who I am and a lot about my wife, come drop by, we'd love to see you. ***************** End Of Article ****************** lost track posted Message 10523 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 01, 2004 at 09:34:27 Subject: dixon I lost track of the drama. Did Dixon fire Peter Baron? ***************** End Of Article ****************** lost track posted Message 10524 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 01, 2004 at 09:36:22 Subject: kixon I lost track. Did dixon fire Peter Baron like he said he would? ***************** End Of Article ****************** piec5 posted Message 10525 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 01, 2004 at 17:28:51 Subject: Re:now, now dog boy - you can dish it but you can't take it before you go off acting the affronted party, please remind the good people on this board that you were the punk hiding behind the keyboard talking sh|t about Mrs. Healy's spouse - and then following up by saying that you had a right to post your slanderous lies and anyone who called you to task for the civil crime you were committing - was only doing it because they were kissing someone's butt. You are the felon who started this and now all of a sudden you feel YOU are being attacked??? We have been playing by the rules you made up and this officially makes it: Game - Set and Match! ***************** End Of Article ****************** frankiedank posted Message 10526 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 01, 2004 at 20:34:39 Subject: Re:now, now dog boy - you can dish it but you can't take it : before you go off acting the affronted party, please remind the good people on this board that you were the punk hiding behind the keyboard talking sh|t about Mrs. Healy's spouse - and then following up by saying that you had a right to post your slanderous lies and anyone who called you to task for the civil crime you were committing - was only doing it because they were kissing someone's butt. : You are the felon who started this and now all of a sudden you feel YOU are being attacked??? : We have been playing by the rules you made up and this officially makes it: Game - Set and Match! Ummmmmm....what I said was a joke first off. And if you couldn't recognize a joke then shame on you. But anyway, That is not a felony you piece of shlt. And Healy deserves a lot more than I have dished out. The man was NAKED on his porch. Case closed. He was once a judge wasn't he? I wonder what he would have said to another person (who committed the same crime he did) at sentencing time. When he wants be the man and live life under the publics eye, then maybe he should act like a model citizen and he wouldn't have people like me making JOKES and comments about the way he lives his life. And as for you, you"re real brave talking to a Twelve year old kid the way you did. He threw a candy wrapper on the sidewalk. Any person with class would have pointed out the there was a garbage can over there and why he should use it. Instead you talk to him and degrade his parents (who weren't by his side at that time). Real brave. I know when I was Twelve and you said that to me I would have whipped that piece of candy at you and I guarentee I would have hit you right between the eyes. Or better yet, Say that to my kids, the worlds greatest proctologist wouldn't be able to fix you a$$. Next time you see a kid do that, instead of talking bad about his parents to him, ask him where he lives and go say to his parents what you would say to him. I bet you wouldn't. Why? Cause you're the punk! ***************** End Of Article ****************** John Russ posted Message 10527 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 03, 2004 at 08:57:30 Subject: Doria bailing out! Politics slows Ramapo job search Codey pushes longtime ally Doria for the presidency Friday, December 03, 2004 BY KELLY HEYBOER AND JOSH MARGOLIN Star-Ledger Staff The first of five semi-finalists for Ramapo College's vacant president's post arrived on campus for an interview yesterday as acting Gov. Richard Codey continued to push for a dark horse candidate -- state Sen. Joseph Doria -- to get the job. Doria (D-Hudson) was one of 90 candidates who applied to be president of the state college in Mahwah. The political veteran was interviewed by the search committee, but failed to make the list of semi-finalists released last week. Advertisement Codey, who personally called the head of the Ramapo board last month to lobby for Doria, said he still believes his longtime political ally is the best man for the job. "Do I think he would make an excellent president of Ramapo? Yes. I do. Absolutely, positively, unequivocally," Codey said in an interview yesterday. Codey declined to comment on efforts on and off campus to derail Ramapo's search. Tuesday night, the college's board of trustees spent several hours debating whether to suspend the search. The effort, led by several new members of the board appointed by former Gov. James E. McGreevey, fell one vote short and the board ruled the search would continue. But the issue sharply divided the 12-member board, pitting veteran board members against new appointees who wanted to delay the search process. Bergen County Counsel Esther Suarez, one of the new Democratic appointees on the board, argued the search was rushed and improperly conducted. Other board members said if the college delayed the search now they would risk losing the semi-finalists to other colleges. One of the six semi-finalists for the job has already dropped out, college officials said. The female candidate, who was not identified, withdrew after hearing news reports that Codey and other Democratic politicians were pushing for Doria to get the job. At the board meeting, Alice Chandler, the consultant hired to run the search, warned that the process had been tainted by politics. "I have been told of political interference at the highest level," said Chandler, former president of the State University of New York at New Paltz and a former interim president at Ramapo. "The atmosphere that surrounds this search is very difficult." The five remaining semi-finalists are scheduled to each spend two days on campus this month for private and public interviews. The first, New York Institute of Technology Provost Alexandra Woods Logue, spent yesterday meeting with campus groups. Ramapo spokeswoman Bonnie Franklin said Logue's interviews were continuing, as scheduled. Logue will appear at a public question-and-answer forum at 1:30 p.m. today on campus. Over the next few weeks, she will be followed by the remaining semi-finalists: Paul Keys, provost and vice president for academic affairs and student affairs at Governors State University in Illinois; Peter Philip Mercer, former dean of the law school and vice president for administration at the University of Western Ontario; Daniel Nelson, a dean at the University of New Haven; and Judith Ramaley, former president of Portland State University and the University of Vermont. Meanwhile, Doria's supporters continued to push privately for his candidacy, arguing the former Assembly speaker (current state senator and Bayonne mayor) is well connected and could make a powerful fund-raiser and leader for the college. Doria did not return calls yesterday. Doria, former chairman of the Assembly's education committee, holds a bachelor's degree from Saint Peter's College in Jersey City, where he has also taught and worked as an administrator. He also holds a master's in American studies from Boston College and a doctorate in education from Columbia University's Teachers College. The Ramapo search committee, which is made up of nearly 20 professors, students and other campus and community members, is scheduled to give the board of trustees its final recommendations Dec. 21. The trustees are expected to meet in January to make their final choice for president. The new president will replace Rodney Smith, who left the $195,000-a-year job earlier this year after clashing with the faculty over financial and leadership issues. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Concerned Citizen posted Message 10528 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 03, 2004 at 20:26:58 Subject: Alberty Hotel Closing WHY MR.MAYOR WOULD YOU COME TO CLOSE A PLACE WHERE YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS LIVE,GIVE THE OWNERS 8 HOURS NOTICE TO PUT EVERYONE OUT ON THE STREET,AND NOT HAVE GIVEN A THOUGHT AS TO WHERE YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS WOULD GO????????? ***************** End Of Article ****************** John Russ posted Message 10529 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 08, 2004 at 22:45:56 Subject: Doria Ripped by Star Ledger..Not Qualified Hacking away at academic freedom Tuesday, December 07, 2004 Here's a little tip for acting Gov. Richard Codey: If you ever want to get rid of the word "acting" in front of your title, drop the Doria thing. It has all the subtlety of a Tony Soprano hit. Joe Doria is the old-time Hudson County pol whom Codey is trying to place in the presidency of Ramapo College. Codey's argu ment is that Doria, the Bayonne mayor and also a state senator, is supremely qualified to run a respected liberal arts college. Advertisement Nonsense. What Doria is supremely qualified to do is fatten up his pension. That's what old politicians do when they are nearing retirement age. And that's what the 58-year-old Doria is up to. The Trenton tradition is to reward long-time legislators with cushy jobs in the pre-retirement years. And few jobs are cushier than the $195,000-a-year presidency of Ramapo. University presidents make that kind of money because they have spent their lifetimes acquiring the type of academic credentials that Hudson County politicians so conspicuously lack. If you go to the college Web site (www.ramapo.edu), you can survey the sterling credentials of the five finalists chosen by a search committee to compete for the presidency. You will note that the name of Joseph Doria is not among those finalists -- even though Codey and his predecessor as governor, James McGreevey, made it plain Doria was their favorite. There's a reason for this: Doria is not qualified. Doria's claim on the college presidency, other than his impressive political connections, is that he has a doctorate in education. Big deal. So has Bill Cosby. And unlike Doria, Cosby is a real deep thinker and a uniquely talented man. Still, that doesn't qualify him to lead a college. A high school perhaps. A grammar school certainly. But people with degrees in lower education do not commonly lead institutions of higher education. That was among the reasons the search committee, after listening politely to Doria, did not name him among the finalists. Another reason was that he gave no indication that he was willing to devote himself to the job as required. At Ramapo, as at other colleges, the president is expected to live on the campus and to take part in campus life virtually around the clock. To this end, Ramapo College has set aside a stately mansion as the president's residence. As at other colleges, the president is expected not just to live there but to entertain academics and potential contributors on an almost daily basis. Yet Doria made it plain that if chosen president he intended to keep living in Bayonne. Though Doria has not commented publicly on the issue, he apparently also intends to keep both his day jobs, the one in Bayonne as well as the one in Trenton. The sole debate has been on whether he could legally hold onto the senatorial spot, but he has given no indication he wants to give it up. The search committee was underwhelmed by the prospect of having a full-time politician as a part-time president. They took a pass on Doria. The board of trustees had other ideas. As part of his effort to politicize higher education in New Jersey, McGreevey packed the board of trustees at Ramapo with political operatives. Codey is continuing that tradition. Last week, the Codey contingent on the board made a last- ditch effort to stop the search dead in its tracks. Citing some alleged technical flaws in the search process, the Codey crowd made a move to reopen the search. The measure failed on a 6-6 tie vote, but only because the professional politicians overlooked the inconvenient fact that an amateur, the student representative on the board, was entitled to vote on the matter. Otherwise, Doria would have been back in the running. He still may be if Codey has his way. The governor is openly pushing to put his pal in the presidency. The acting governor has not asked my advice on this, but here it comes anyway: Give it up. It'll never get past the goo-goos. The goo-goos -- the many liberal, do-gooders in this state -- will never buy this one. Though I disagree with my liberal friends on most aspects of politics, I have to say they have their good points. One of these is a strong belief in academic freedom. Though most liberals support the Democratic Party, they don't want to see the state's higher education system become part of the Democratic political machine. If this is the kind of crude stunt that Codey intends to pull, he might as well forget about running against U.S. Sen. Jon Corzine in the Democratic primary. Heck, even the Republicans might be able to beat him. Paul Mulshine is a Star-Ledger columnist. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Jealousonesenvy posted Message 10530 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 10, 2004 at 00:29:48 Subject: Re: degise daughters : excuse me leave his girls out of this. if u had ur info straight ud know that one daughter goes to school full time and works for the county during summer vacation, and the other works full time and goes to school at night. sorry your child isnt intelligent enough to handle both work and school simutaniously. ***************** End Of Article ****************** santa posted Message 10531 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 10, 2004 at 16:41:23 Subject: Hudson County pedophile Can someone answer the question how they let a pedophile Ed run a department in PUBLIC RESOURCES and expect the people of Hudson County to trust them after they covered it up not once but twice they care about themselves not you or your children ***************** End Of Article ****************** unknown posted Message 10532 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 11, 2004 at 19:17:50 Subject: Re: Jim Kennelly to replace Stan Eason : Why would Kennelly go from a secure job with a County Exec who has a few years to go on his term, to move to the office of an Interim Mayor who has a few months before he has to run again? That makes no sense. And since Dorf didn't support anyone's campaign in this round, what makes you think he would be interested in coming back to Jersey City? : : GOD HELP US! : : : One view is Jim Kennelly will replace Stan Eason as Director of Communications for the city. Then, the story goes, Brian Dorf will return to the county to assume Kennelly's role. I know for a fact that Brian Dorf is not assuming Kennelly's role. 100% sure that statement is TRUE! Where are you getting your sources? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Sellouts posted Message 10533 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 13, 2004 at 14:59:15 Subject: funny Rumor has it that Manzo people are begging for deals daily... these guys are spineless. We are laughing at you low lifes at City hall. Keep on coming to the city/county.. we are laughin ***************** End Of Article ****************** JohnRuss posted Message 10534 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 13, 2004 at 18:23:50 Subject: They don't want Doria either! Ramapo students ask Codey to stay out of president search Associated Press MAHWAH, N.J. - Ramapo College students have collected 2,200 signatures on a petition asking acting Gov. Richard J. Codey to stay out of the search for a new president at the 5,600-student school. The petitions, sent to the offices of Codey and other lawmakers, were gathered after Codey asked the college board's president in mid-November about State Sen. Joseph Doria Jr.'s getting the position. Codey also is scheduled to appoint two members to the North Jersey state college's 11-member board of trustees, a prospect that has raised concerns about increased political influence. Codey's office did not comment on the issue. The 20-person search committee did not choose Doria (D., Hudson) as one of the five semifinalists late last month. Interviews with those candidates have begun. Daniel Makoski, vice president of the student government association, said the group had circulated petitions because of concern that politicians might be interfering with the search. ***************** End Of Article ****************** J Dolan posted Message 10535 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2004 at 10:35:29 Subject: Willie Flood...the only man to right this city He is one hell of a guy. He can fix anything. ***************** End Of Article ****************** very posted Message 10536 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2004 at 07:14:56 Subject: JCEA GUY B TAKE PICS AT HEALYS PARTY GEORGE THE TEACHER FROM ps 28 and a big union rep in building was seen taking pics at jerrys affair just vlike he did with tom fx smith george remrmber what jerry mccann did to you ***************** End Of Article ****************** bs posted Message 10537 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2004 at 07:18:56 Subject: GEORGE AND JERRY we all know that george is with jerry and that even though he screw half of his friends will he get paid for his pics thanks geo n and by the wayu that job ha ha ***************** End Of Article ****************** bs posted Message 10538 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2004 at 07:18:58 Subject: GEORGE AND JERRY we all know that george is with jerry and that even though he screw half of his friends will he get paid for his pics thanks geo n and by the wayu that job ha ha ***************** End Of Article ****************** bs posted Message 10539 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2004 at 08:35:23 Subject: GEORGE AND JERRY THIS MUST BE SOME CARTOON GEORGE SAYS SMILE JERRY WHY I HAVE NO REAL FRIENDS ***************** End Of Article ****************** Oscar Marquez Jr posted Message 10540 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 15, 2004 at 13:16:40 Subject: Destruction of history, Union City Roosevelt Stadium. Death of Roosevelt Stadium. A thriving, usable, historic site and an icon of Union City. This stadium rich in history, design and usefulness is being destroyed. Why? When there are other alternatives. Preserve, protect and renovate. Rebuild our schools and build new schools in areas where there is no loss of history. Schools are a necessity and the education of our children is our hope, but without the preservation of our past, our future is grim! Mayor Brian Stack and the board of Union City Commissioners, It's not too late, please do not destroy our history in the name of progress. Don't let this treasure of Union City be torn down. Oscar Marquez North Bergen, NJ dada@att.net ***************** End Of Article ****************** Milagros Garcia posted Message 10541 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2004 at 12:36:00 Subject: Jose Arango is a Statesman & Friend to the Cuban Community When my family and I came to the United States seeking refuge from Castro's Communist Cuba Jose Arango was serving in the Assembly. He helped my parents and my brother and me to find housing and earn a living in our new home in North Hudson. As far as I know, Jose Arango is one of the only people in Hudson County to be elected as a Republican to such a high office as state assembly. I don't know who all you people are that are saying unfair things about him because you do not put your names to your messages. I can only feel that you are jealous of his success and his ability to work with people of all backrounds and political parties. He is a friend to our family and to the people of Hudson County. I stand by my words by writing my name to this. Why do you not write yours? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Milagros Garcia posted Message 10542 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2004 at 12:38:40 Subject: Jose Arango is a Statesman & Friend to the Cuban Community When my family and I came to the United States seeking refuge from Castro's Communist Cuba Jose Arango was serving in the Assembly. He helped my parents and my brother and me to find housing and earn a living in our new home in North Hudson. As far as I know, Jose Arango is one of the only people in Hudson County to be elected as a Republican to such a high office as state assembly. I don't know who all you people are that are saying unfair things about him because you do not put your names to your messages. I can only feel that you are jealous of his success and his ability to work with people of all backrounds and political parties. He is a friend to our family and to the people of Hudson County. I stand by my words by writing my name to this. Why do you not write yours? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Milagros Garcia posted Message 10543 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2004 at 12:39:01 Subject: Jose Arango is a Statesman & Friend to the Cuban Community When my family and I came to the United States seeking refuge from Castro's Communist Cuba Jose Arango was serving in the Assembly. He helped my parents and my brother and me to find housing and earn a living in our new home in North Hudson. As far as I know, Jose Arango is one of the only people in Hudson County to be elected as a Republican to such a high office as state assembly. I don't know who all you people are that are saying unfair things about him because you do not put your names to your messages. I can only feel that you are jealous of his success and his ability to work with people of all backrounds and political parties. He is a friend to our family and to the people of Hudson County. I stand by my words by writing my name to this. Why do you not write yours? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Milagros Garcia posted Message 10544 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2004 at 12:44:52 Subject: Jose Arango is a Statesman & Friend to the Cuban Community When my family and I came to the United States seeking refuge from Castro's Communist Cuba Jose Arango was serving in the Assembly. He helped my parents and my brother and me to find housing and earn a living in our new home in North Hudson. As far as I know, Jose Arango is one of the only people in Hudson County to be elected as a Republican to such a high office as state assembly. I don't know who all you people are that are saying unfair things about him because you do not put your names to your messages. I can only feel that you are jealous of his success and his ability to work with people of all backrounds and political parties. He is a friend to our family and to the people of Hudson County. I stand by my words by writing my name to this. Why do you not write yours? ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10545 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 17, 2004 at 13:18:46 Subject: This is the Message Archive This is the Message Archive. To visit the current Hudson County Politics Board, please click on the Link. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Anonymous posted Message 10546 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 18, 2004 at 15:51:39 Subject: Re: They don't want Doria either! A little piece of info: Suarez is from Bayonne. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ashlee simson posted Message 10547 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 21, 2004 at 04:59:56 Subject: Re: Dixon=loser : Billy we love you! Dixon I remember you from High School. : You are such a looooooooooooooooooser, you haven't changed much it's sad................ : Remember me,let me refresh your memory. : You were drunk. (that doesn't norrow it down) : It was 11/2/2004. (getting closer) : You said, "I don't want signs up on my block!" : As you riped one (sign)out of a childs hand! : You said, " You Manzo guys are known for sukker punching people!" : Next time.................. ***************** End Of Article ****************** ZORRO posted Message 10548 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 21, 2004 at 22:17:31 Subject: JC MAYORAL ELECTIONS HELLO, MY AMIGOS! HOW HAVE YOU BEEN? THIS IS YOUR OLD FRIEND "EL ZORRO!" PLEASE ACCEPT MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES FOR MY LONG ABSENSE. BUT AS YOU KNOW THERE ARE MANY PLACES IN THE WORLD WHERE PREJUDICE AND INJUSTICE EXIST AND ZORRO'S BLADE HAS BEEN VERY BUSY FIGHTING THE FORCES OF INJUSTICE AND EVIL. BUT, I SEE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS AND INJUSTICES ON THE RISE IN MY 2ND HOMETOWN OF JERSEY CITY. THIS IS NOT NEW. THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN PREJUDICE AND INJUSTICE IN JERSEY CITY. OVER THE YEARS IT HAS WAXED AND WANED. RECENTLY IT APPEARS THAT THE FORCES OF PREJUDICE HAS, SUBTLY, REARED ITS HEAD. HOW UNFORTUNATE. IT IS "COMMON KNOWLEDGE” AMONG THOSE IN THE KNOW IN JC, THAT LOCAL "COMMANDANTES" CANNOT POSTULATE A CANDIDATE OF AFRICAN AMERICAN DESCENT IN THE "HEIGHTS", BECAUSE MOST WHITES IN THE "HEIGHTS" (85%+) WILL NOT VOTE FOR A BLACK PERSON. WHAT A PITY. THE LAST TIME ZORRO LEFT JERSEY CITY HE BELIEVED THAT PREJUDICE WAS ON THE DECLINE. I SEE I WAS WRONG. AND I SEE WHAT ADDS INSULT TO INJURY IS THAT THOSE MOST DOWN TRODDEN AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE, ARE DIVIDED AMONG THEMSELVES AND HAVE LOST MOST OF THE POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF ORGANIZING AND BEING TOGETHER. BLACKS AND PUERTO RICANS IN JERSEY CITY MAKE UP ALMOST HALF OF THE CITY'S POPULATION. YET THEY RECEIVE LITTLE OR NONE OF THE POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC BENEFITS. ONLY A FEW TOKENS OFFERED UP BY THE LOCAL "COMMANDANTES" GET THE BOUNTY THE REST GET LITTLE OR NOTHING. (ZORRO UNDERSTANDS THAT COUNCILMEN'S VEGA AND MALDONADO HAVE PURCHASED HOMES IN RIO DE JANIERO, BRAZIL AND THE POCONOS, PA RESPECTIVELY.) HOW OBVIOUS IT WAS FOR SANDRA CUNNINGHAM AND WILLIE FLOOD, BOBBY JACKSON, JOE CADRWELL AND GENE DRAYTON TO DIVIDE THE VOTE AND THUS SET BACK THE FEW GAINS THAT BLACKS, PR's, WHITES AND OTHERS HAD MADE SINCE THE PASSING OF GLENN CUNNINGHAM. THEY TURNED OVER THE POLITICAL POWER TO THOSE WHO OPPOSED GLENN AND NOW MAY EVEN JOIN THESE POLITICAL FORCES. THIS WAS A BETRAYAL OF WHAT GLENN REPRESENTED IN HIS “EARLIER YEARS”. UNFORTUNATELY, IN HIS “LATER YEARS”, GLENN HAD MADE A FAUSTIAN DEAL WITH BOBBY JACKSON AND JOE CARDWELL (LONGTIME POLITICAL ENEMIES) TO CAPTURE CITY HALL. AFTERWARDS GLENN ALLOWED HIS POLITICAL CRONIES TO USE, ABUSE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE POLITICAL AND GOVERNMENTAL STRUCTURE. CRONYISM AND NEPOTISM WERE THE ORDERS OF THE DAY AND SANDRA, WILLIE, BOBBY, JOE, GENE AND THEIR POLITICAL CRONIES WERE NOT ABOVE BEING THE NEW "COMMANDANTES". BUT AN ACT OF GOD WOULD CHANGE ALL OF THESE THINGS. ZORRO LAMENTED THE PASSING OF GLENN CUNNINGHAM, HIS DEATH WAS THE COMPLETION OF HIS LIFE AND AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE THAT WOULD STAY BEHIND TO CONTINUE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS WAS NOT TO BE. SANDRA, WILLIE, BOBBY, JOE, GENE AND THE OTHERS HAD FALLEN UNDER THE SPELL OF “POWER”. THEY WOULD DESTROY THEMSELVES AND THE LITTLE LEGACY THAT GLENN HAD LEFT BY TUMBLING L. HARVEY SMITH. ZORRO BELIEVES THAT L. 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YET THEY RECIEVE LESS THAN ONE THIRD OF THE POLITICAL REPRESENATION AND ECONOMICS BENEFITS. WHILE A MUCH SMALLER GROUP THAT MAKES UP LESS THAT 10% OF THE POPULATION, CONTROLS THE POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC STRUCTURE AND DERIVES THE BOUNTY OF THE GOVERNMENTAL STRUCTUE. (i.e. 6 OF THE 9 COUNCILMAN IN JERSEY CITY MAKE MORE THAN $100,000 FROM THEIR "PUBLIC JOBS"). RACISM, POLITICAL GREED, HATE, REVENGE AND THE FORCES OF DARKNESS WERE VERY PRESENT DURING THIS PAST ELECTION IN JERSEY CITY. THESE FORCES WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR DEFEATING L. HARVEY SMITH. ZORRO IS SAD TO SEE THIS HAPPEN IN HIS 2ND HOMETOWN. ZORRO BELIEVES THAT SOMETHING MUST BE DONE TO RESTORE JUSTICE. THE GOOD WHITE FOLKS, AFRICAN AMERICANS, PUERTO RICANS AND ALL THOSE OTHERS WHO BELIEVE IN TRUTH, JUSTICE AND FAIR PLAY FOR ALL MUST MAKE A COALITION TO COMBAT THIS INJUSTICE AND BRING SOME "EQUITY" TO THE POLITICAL AND SOCIO-ECONOMIC ORDER OF THE TOWN. ZORRO HAS RETURNED!! 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Rebuild our schools and build new schools in areas where there is no loss of history. Schools are a necessity and the education of our children is our hope, but without the preservation of our past, our future is grim! : Mayor Brian Stack and the board of Union City Commissioners, It's not too late, please do not destroy our history in the name of progress. Don't let this treasure of Union City be torn down. : Oscar Marquez : North Bergen, NJ : dada@att.net Why would anyone be stupid enough to do that! Vote this guy out of office already! All Brian seems to want to do is spend tax payers hard earned $ on building schools. I know these schools are overpopulated but knocking down Roosevelt Stadium in Union City is ludicrous, give me a break. ***************** End Of Article ****************** piec5 posted Message 10550 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 24, 2004 at 20:37:38 Subject: douchebagsezwatt? "Game - Set and Match!" you lost, stupid! I always knew that you're stupid, but all you are doing by continuing your ridiculous rants is showing everybody else what a jurk-off you are. Nothing you can ever say can make up for the errors you made and continue to make. The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it ***************** End Of Article ****************** oscar posted Message 10551 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 25, 2004 at 21:55:59 Subject: I guess spending 366 million tax dollars doesn't seem as important as electing some new bozo to a government position. I guess 366 million dollars doesn't seem as important as electing some new bozo to a government position. Yes! 366 Million Dollars is what Union City is spending on the Destruction Roosevelt Stadium and build up of new high school. This is all being done for political gains, because there are other solutions. A thriving, usable, historic site and an icon of Union City. This stadium rich in history, design and usefulness is being destroyed. Why? When there are other alternatives. Preserve, protect and renovate. Rebuild our schools and build new schools in areas where there is no loss of history. Schools are a necessity and the education of our children is our hope, but without the preservation of our past, our future is grim! In North Bergen they have built temporary schools in Hudson County Park while there existing grammar schools are being rebuilt and expanded this saves city government and tax payer $$$'s. Why doesn't Union City Government do something similar and at the same time save Roosevelt Stadium. Be mart and it will also save taxpayers millions of dollars in new building cost and our priceless history. Mayor Brian Stack and the board of Union City Commissioners, It's not too late, please do not destroy our history in the name of progress. 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Then our review of the ***************** End Of Article ****************** mike depaula posted Message 10649 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2005 at 17:38:40 Subject: Re: is your sister lisa? Is she still alive? : : : : : IM MIKE DEPAULA FRANKIE DEPAULA WAS MY FAther.im looking for some help to get a street named after him in jersey city. : : : : : : Dear mike, : : : Let me start off by saying I've searched a long time for you. This is by no means a joke or prank in any way and i wish for nothing but info. 37 years ago i was given up for adoption and i have reason to beleive Frank depaula was my biological father. I know this might be a shock to you and i mean no disrespect to you and yours. i just need to know. Donna ***************** End Of Article ****************** mike depaula posted Message 10650 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 24, 2005 at 17:40:24 Subject: Re: is your sister lisa? Is she still alive? : : : : : IM MIKE DEPAULA FRANKIE DEPAULA WAS MY FAther.im looking for some help to get a street named after him in jersey city. : : : : : : Dear mike, : : : Let me start off by saying I've searched a long time for you. This is by no means a joke or prank in any way and i wish for nothing but info. 37 years ago i was given up for adoption and i have reason to beleive Frank depaula was my biological father. I know this might be a shock to you and i mean no disrespect to you and yours. i just need to know. Donna No, Lisa died in 1995. How do you know Lisa? ***************** End Of Article ****************** mike depaula posted Message 10651 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2005 at 17:42:45 Subject: Re: is your sister lisa? Is she still alive? did you know lisa? im mike depaula : : : : : : Dear mike, : : : Let me start off by saying I've searched a long time for you. This is by no means a joke or prank in any way and i wish for nothing but info. 37 years ago i was given up for adoption and i have reason to beleive Frank depaula was my biological father. I know this might be a shock to you and i mean no disrespect to you and yours. i just need to know. Donna ***************** End Of Article ****************** mike depaula posted Message 10652 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 27, 2005 at 17:52:20 Subject: Re: I see a Mayor Manzo in the future ... : Manzo will run with support from Bonocoure and Flood, because the people around Healy will foolishly blow off Flood and Bonocoure. By the time they realize they need these folks it will be too late. That will get them to join with Manzo to make a push to oust Healy in the Spring. With Manzo and two or three of the wannabees together...Healy had better have a huge war chest and a lot of county support. : And I don't think he will consolidate power as fast as Schundler did in 93. As you may remember, Schundler had a lou manzo promised he would get a street named after my father frankie depaula. that was a long time ago and im still waitig.also bill odea promised me the same thing around the time lou manzo did.by the way im mike depaula fiscal rabbit and he pulled it out of his hat..just in time. It was called a 30% tax cut. Healy has no such rabbit. And he has a lot of dead wood around him too. Smith won't run because he just won't have the cash. For an acting Mayor...his showing was lousy, so he won't be able to raise the cash tis time around. : : I think Healy Manzo Flood and Smith ***************** End Of Article ****************** mike depaula posted Message 10653 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 29, 2005 at 11:09:37 Subject: mike depaula : IF YOU WERE A MANZO SUPPORTER THANKS FOR YOUR HELP BUT THE ELECTION IS OVER AND THATS IT NO JOBS AVAILABLE. lou manzo promised me a few years ago that he wouldget a street named after my father frankie depaula. guess what im still waiting!! also bill odea promised me the same thing and im also still waiting ***************** End Of Article ****************** Why take the test? posted Message 10654 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 12, 2005 at 16:15:42 Subject: 800 Sargents Jerry- do you have to make so many sargents now? Is it because the Sheriff's daughter is so far down the list and you have to reach her? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Team Healy Deadbeat posted Message 10655 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2005 at 09:15:46 Subject: Cathy Curran I thought Curran couldn't run on Team Healy's ticket because she was moving away. She seems to be spending a lot of time in City Hall collecting a big paycheck. Was she just afraid to run????? Loyalty obviously does not include running on your friends ticket, just collecting a guaranteed payola...hmmmm. ***************** End Of Article ****************** janine dipaula posted Message 10656 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2005 at 18:03:47 Subject: Re: FRANKIE DEPAULA : : : IM MIKE DEPAULA FRANKIE DEPAULA WAS MY FAther.im looking for some help to get a street named after him in jersey city. : : Dear mike, : Let me start off by saying I've searched a long time for you. This is by no means a joke or prank in any way and i wish for nothing but info. 37 years ago i was given up for adoption and i have reason to beleive Frank depaula was my biological father. I know this might be a shock to you and i mean no disrespect to you and yours. i just need to know. Donna ***************** End Of Article ****************** janine dipaula posted Message 10657 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2005 at 18:11:37 Subject: Re: FRANKIE DEPAULA : : : : IM MIKE DEPAULA FRANKIE DEPAULA WAS MY FAther.im looking for some help to get a street named after him in jersey city. : : : : Dear mike, : : Let me start off by saying I've searched a long time for you. This is by no means a joke or prank in any way and i wish for nothing but info. 37 years ago i was given up for adoption and i have reason to beleive Frank depaula was my biological father. I know this might be a shock to you and i mean no disrespect to you and yours. i just need to know. Donna ***************** End Of Article ****************** janine dipaula posted Message 10658 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2005 at 18:23:26 Subject: Re: FRANKIE DEPAULA : : : : IM MIKE DEPAULA FRANKIE DEPAULA WAS MY FAther.im looking for some help to get a street named after him in jersey city. : : : : Dear mike, : : Let me start off by saying I've searched a long time for you. This is by no means a joke or prank in any way and i wish for nothing but info. 37 years ago i was given up for adoption and i have reason to beleive Frank depaula was my biological father. I know this might be a shock to you and i mean no disrespect to you and yours. i just need to know. Donna ***************** End Of Article ****************** janine dipaula posted Message 10659 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2005 at 18:34:50 Subject: Re: FRANKIE DEPAULA if you think you are frankie daughter what is your mothers name ***************** End Of Article ****************** janine dipaula posted Message 10660 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 13, 2005 at 19:14:42 Subject: Re: is your sister lisa? Is she still alive? lisa died in 1995 : : : : : : IM MIKE DEPAULA FRANKIE DEPAULA WAS MY FAther.im looking for some help to get a street named after him in jersey city. : : : : : : : : Dear mike, : : : : Let me start off by saying I've searched a long time for you. This is by no means a joke or prank in any way and i wish for nothing but info. 37 years ago i was given up for adoption and i have reason to beleive Frank depaula was my biological father. I know this might be a shock to you and i mean no disrespect to you and yours. i just need to know. Donna : No, Lisa died in 1995. How do you know Lisa? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gina posted Message 10661 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2005 at 12:41:26 Subject: Re: FRANKIE DEPAULA : : : : IM MIKE DEPAULA FRANKIE DEPAULA WAS MY FAther.im looking for some help to get a street named after him in jersey city. : : : : Dear mike, : : Let me start off by saying I've searched a long time for you. This is by no means a joke or prank in any way and i wish for nothing but info. 37 years ago i was given up for adoption and i have reason to beleive Frank depaula was my biological father. I know this might be a shock to you and i mean no disrespect to you and yours. i just need to know. Donna ***************** End Of Article ****************** Gina posted Message 10662 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 14, 2005 at 12:42:54 Subject: Re: FRANKIE DEPAULA Who is Janine DiPaula?? : : : : : IM MIKE DEPAULA FRANKIE DEPAULA WAS MY FAther.im looking for some help to get a street named after him in jersey city. : : : : : : Dear mike, : : : Let me start off by saying I've searched a long time for you. This is by no means a joke or prank in any way and i wish for nothing but info. 37 years ago i was given up for adoption and i have reason to beleive Frank depaula was my biological father. I know this might be a shock to you and i mean no disrespect to you and yours. i just need to know. Donna ***************** End Of Article ****************** ??? posted Message 10663 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2005 at 11:41:17 Subject: Re: what is the REAL deal? : Can someone please tell me what is this mystery connection between Steve Hyman, Steven Fulop and Mariano Vega? 2 jews and a spic ***************** End Of Article ****************** ??? posted Message 10664 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 19, 2005 at 11:41:18 Subject: Re: what is the REAL deal? : Can someone please tell me what is this mystery connection between Steve Hyman, Steven Fulop and Mariano Vega? 2 jews and a spic ***************** End Of Article ****************** Saad Hashmi posted Message 10665 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 20, 2005 at 23:06:48 Subject: Re: Birth Certificates : No vitals in Hudson : Feds shut down passport and birth record services : For the second time in less than a year, Hudson County's office of vital statistics was closed as part of an investigation dealing with sale or theft of identification. : : So where do I go to get a Birth Certificate now ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Bertoli posted Message 10666 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2005 at 19:19:43 Subject: Bertoli keeps posting so all of fulops and bertoli go away bertoli we know that its you so just stop you will be next to be gone ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fulop posted Message 10667 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2005 at 19:31:48 Subject: ward e bosses (fulop lies to us all the time with a smile) bertloi torres bertoli torres bertoli torres bertoli torres be torres bertoli torres bertoli torres bertoli torres bertoli bertoli torres bertoli torres bertoli torres bertoli ***************** End Of Article ****************** outsider posted Message 10668 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 29, 2005 at 19:33:30 Subject: Re: what is the REAL deal? : Can someone please tell me what is this mystery connection between Steve Hyman, Steven Fulop and Mariano Vega? 2 jews 1 spic ***************** End Of Article ****************** van vorst park posted Message 10669 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2005 at 07:26:03 Subject: BERTOLI Why is Tom Bertoli addressing the people of van vorst park when he doesnt even live in the area never mind that he doesn't even live in Jersey City. Fulop is being very sneaky we will see at the free Buffet what is going on. ***************** End Of Article ****************** anthony posted Message 10670 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2005 at 07:27:17 Subject: Re: BERTOLI : Why is Tom Bertoli addressing the people of van vorst park when he doesnt even live in the area never mind that he doesn't even live in Jersey City. Fulop is being very sneaky we will see at the free Buffet what is going on. ***************** End Of Article ****************** H.C.D.O. posted Message 10671 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2005 at 09:10:03 Subject: PARTY H.C.D.O. WELL IT WS A BIG NIGHT FOR THE H.C.D.O. AT CASINO IN THE PARK ALL THE GANG MEMBERS WERE THIER TOM BILL VEGA CAL JERRY MARY MIKE FLOOD NO VI BUT STEVE FULOP WAS THERE WITH ONE OF HAS THUGS TOM BERTOLI ***************** End Of Article ****************** FULOP posted Message 10672 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2005 at 09:10:26 Subject: Re: PARTY H.C.D.O. : WELL IT WS A BIG NIGHT FOR THE H.C.D.O. AT CASINO IN THE PARK : ALL THE GANG MEMBERS WERE THIER TOM BILL VEGA CAL JERRY MARY : MIKE FLOOD NO VI BUT STEVE FULOP WAS THERE WITH ONE OF HAS THUGS TOM BERTOLI ***************** End Of Article ****************** Waldo 0j0 posted Message 10673 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : September 30, 2005 at 13:33:59 Subject: Where is? Forget Waldo where is Torres? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fulop posted Message 10674 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2005 at 11:59:05 Subject: Fulop Sleep with the enemy Fulop in bed with H C D O Fulop in bed with Bertoli Fulop in bed with Torres Fulop in bed with Joey mocco Fulop in bed with Corzine Fulop in bed with steve Hyman Fulop in bed with the MANZO family Fulop in bed with Charles Epps would anyone like to add to the list please do so I bet that fulop doesnt make it though the whole 4 years and if he does it will be his last. Fulop mayor 2009 what a joke maybe he will be gone by then. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fulop going posted Message 10675 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2005 at 11:59:45 Subject: Re: Fulop Sleep with the enemy : Fulop in bed with H C D O : Fulop in bed with Bertoli : Fulop in bed with Torres : Fulop in bed with Joey mocco : Fulop in bed with Corzine : Fulop in bed with steve Hyman : Fulop in bed with the MANZO family : Fulop in bed with Charles Epps : would anyone like to add to the list please do so : I bet that fulop doesnt make it though the whole 4 years and if he does it will be his last. Fulop mayor 2009 what a joke maybe he will be gone by then. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Fulop GONE posted Message 10676 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2005 at 12:00:21 Subject: Re: Fulop Sleep with the enemy : : Fulop in bed with H C D O : : Fulop in bed with Bertoli : : Fulop in bed with Torres : : Fulop in bed with Joey mocco : : Fulop in bed with Corzine : : Fulop in bed with steve Hyman : : Fulop in bed with the MANZO family : : Fulop in bed with Charles Epps : : would anyone like to add to the list please do so : : I bet that fulop doesnt make it though the whole 4 years and if he does it will be his last. Fulop mayor 2009 what a joke maybe he will be gone by then. ***************** End Of Article ****************** party party posted Message 10677 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 01, 2005 at 18:23:45 Subject: Re: PARTY H.C.D.O. : : WELL IT WS A BIG NIGHT FOR THE H.C.D.O. AT CASINO IN THE PARK : : ALL THE GANG MEMBERS WERE THIER TOM BILL VEGA CAL JERRY MARY : : MIKE FLOOD NO VI BUT STEVE FULOP WAS THERE WITH ONE OF HAS THUGS TOM BERTOLI ***************** End Of Article ****************** Lipski is McGreevy's Lover posted Message 10678 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2005 at 20:15:01 Subject: What Sam Adam's Says About Lipski You Stained Shirt lovers are all on crack. Lipski is going down not because of a personal feud, but because he is as crooked as Bill Clinton's pe nis. He laundered money. He is obviously a quid pro quo kinda guy. Neither of these things should be tolerated in a public offical: "[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend of the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who, so far as his power and influence extend, will not suffer a man to be chosen onto any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man." Samuel Adams Lipski is not of this virtue. Kush is. ***************** End Of Article ****************** smilers posted Message 10679 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2005 at 22:16:03 Subject: where the sun dont shine : : : charge's have been filed agianst the newport waterfront ass. with the i.r.s. for violating the non for profit law's.misuse of fund's,politicing and money laundering are all alledged to be taking place.stay tuned : : : that fat pig spent the money on donut's : : Mr Bertoli, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. : : You f u c k with her I f u c k with you. Your choice. : kiss my A$$ ***************** End Of Article ****************** shame on you posted Message 10680 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 03, 2005 at 22:18:14 Subject: bertoli/torres : : : : This board says that Fulop made that NB reject a Ward E leader for Corzine. If this is true then they should pull out over 3,500 votes. They have Fulops base and the HCDO so 3,500 should be a breeze. When is te first rally. : : : : how can Bertoli be the ward e leader if he doesn't even live in jersey city sealing votes from NB/UC with Torres : : : Bertoli doesn't even live in Hudson County ***************** End Of Article ****************** GET NJ posted Message 10681 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 04, 2005 at 14:51:21 Subject: This is an Archive Board. Click on the Link for the new Board. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Margaret Sullivan posted Message 10682 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : October 21, 2005 at 21:50:25 Subject: Re: GREAT LEADERSHIP and Stan Eason at his best! : 2029. Great leadership in that department... : by Morell, 7/14/03 9:20 ET : And why even talk about ethical aspects. : This is from the JJ today: : "A Jersey City deputy police chief accused of driving a NJ Transit bus while on city time has retired with a full pension - just over $90,000 a year - and all departmental charges against him have been dropped. On Wednesday, Jersey City spokesman Stan H. Eason said Perez's retirement would make the departmental charges against him "a moot point." That means Perez is walking away from the force with a full pension and that he and his family will remain eligible for city healthcare benefits, Eason said. " : "The allegations against Jersey City Deputy Police Chief Victor Perez came to light two months ago, when a high-ranking police official told The Jersey Journal that Perez was facing departmental charges accusing him of driving the bus during the same hours he was supposed to be working for the city. " : http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/index.ssf?/base/news-1/105817742886792.xml : Why can't Conte get his facts straight or is it that he is on some kind of family payroll? Conte obviously mistook slimy Edgar Martinez for a "high-ranking police official". What Conte doesn't print is that Martinez is not now nor will never be a high ranking official of anything. What Conte chose not to print is that Lieutenant Buonocore could not stand having someone like Victor Perez around...someone who outranked him in every way. Ron Bounocore should have stuck to what he was good at: flag twirling. He was good at stealing union funds and having underlings take the rap for him too. There was great leadership in the department when Victor Perez was Acting Chief. There was ethical treatment of citizens and minority prisoners too. Buonocore held himself up as a pillar of ethics in his bid for the mayor's office (after the mayor mysteriously dropped dead). Unfortunately he couldn't stop lying about where he lived. Morrell and Conte should get their facts straight and stop trying to ruin other people's lives; people that work hard for a living: people like Victor Perez ***************** End Of Article ****************** Matty posted Message 10683 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 21, 2005 at 04:36:48 Subject: Re: Let's start with - Where hasn't McCann been Arrested? He seemed like a bit of a grade-A-pillock to me. Does he still wear the jacket that doesnt fit him? Still got the side burns? ***************** End Of Article ****************** janine depaula posted Message 10684 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 21, 2005 at 15:03:24 Subject: Re: FRANKIE DEPAULA : : : : IM MIKE DEPAULA FRANKIE DEPAULA WAS MY FAther.im looking for some help to get a street named after him in jersey city. : : : : Dear mike, : : Let me start off by saying I've searched a long time for you. This is by no means a joke or prank in any way and i wish for nothing but info. 37 years ago i was given up for adoption and i have reason to beleive Frank depaula was my biological father. I know this might be a shock to you and i mean no disrespect to you and yours. i just need to know. Donna ***************** End Of Article ****************** janine depaula posted Message 10685 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 29, 2005 at 00:48:17 Subject: Re: FRANKIE DEPAULA : : : : IM MIKE DEPAULA FRANKIE DEPAULA WAS MY FAther.im looking for some help to get a street named after him in jersey city. : : : : Dear mike, : : Let me start off by saying I've searched a long time for you. This is by no means a joke or prank in any way and i wish for nothing but info. 37 years ago i was given up for adoption and i have reason to beleive Frank depaula was my biological father. I know this might be a shock to you and i mean no disrespect to you and yours. i just need to know. Donna ***************** End Of Article ****************** janine dipaula posted Message 10686 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : November 29, 2005 at 01:36:30 Subject: Re: FRANKIE DEPAULA : : : IM MIKE DEPAULA FRANKIE DEPAULA WAS MY FAther.im looking for some help to get a street named after him in jersey city. : : Dear mike, : Let me start off by saying I've searched a long time for you. This is by no means a joke or prank in any way and i wish for nothing but info. 37 years ago i was given up for adoption and i have reason to beleive Frank depaula was my biological father. I know this might be a shock to you and i mean no disrespect to you and yours. i just need to know. Donna ***************** End Of Article ****************** donna posted Message 10687 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 14, 2005 at 16:26:57 Subject: Re: FRANKIE DEPAULA : if you think you are frankie daughter what is your mothers name who are you? mike depaula says he does'nt know you ***************** End Of Article ****************** richard Asante posted Message 10688 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : December 21, 2005 at 13:47:05 Subject: Re: Birth Certificates : No vitals in Hudson : Feds shut down passport and birth record services : For the second time in less than a year, Hudson County's office of vital statistics was closed as part of an investigation dealing with sale or theft of identification. : : So where do I go to get a Birth Certificate now ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** Tom posted Message 10689 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : January 17, 2006 at 11:01:26 Subject: Re: Birth Certificates You can not get a birth certificate anymore. You have to buy one instead. If you wish to be a born again Hudson Resident for a low low fee of etc you can become a valid person or else get a green card. Wait till the Republicans find out that democrate students during the Viet Nam war paid the officals to alter thier birth dates to get a higher draft number thus keeping away from nam and service. There is/was provisions to report an incorrect birth date back then. This method was better than going to canada. The info the state of nJ has was is also false as a result of that scam. James Carter former pres had pardoned all draft dodgers but fraud is not included. Plus the additional penalty of document altering would be imposed yet alone the deception at Selective Service. We here do birth re-enactments for those that are not sure if they were born or not. We will issue a birth re-enactment certificate if you want to buy one. Let's see 4 million county residents multiplied by $10 a head for a new birth certificate , well that is a nice amount so some can now in vital statistics buy the home of thier dream and the hot tub too. Good Luck Republicans with the new found gold mine. : No vitals in Hudson : Feds shut down passport and birth record services : For the second time in less than a year, Hudson County's office of vital statistics was closed as part of an investigation dealing with sale or theft of identification. : : So where do I go to get a Birth Certificate now ? ***************** End Of Article ****************** bob posted Message 10690 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : April 11, 2006 at 20:39:29 Subject: Re: Jersey City Medical Center-What You Don’t Know Can Kill You Wow, all most all of this is true. This artical just begins to show Liberty's managements ture colors and goals. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Stella posted Message 10691 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 02, 2006 at 11:22:46 Subject: Re: Jersey City Medical Center-What You Don’t Know Can Kill You I can attest to the wrongdoings of the JCMC as I have been inextricably connected to the establishment my entire life. There have been ongoing problems (to say the least) since the revamping in the 1980’s. The hospital maintains no level of professionalism and for the accusations of “browbeating” and sweeping things under the rug—the medical center is justly charged. I have witnessed these injustices first hand. There is absolute corruption in all levels of management, and it is not just the patients, but the Doctors, Nurses, and all other employees who are not stuffing their pockets with six digits a year that suffer. One practice that is of concern in the media right now is the “promotion” of nurses to “supervisors.” While this opportunity for RNs to supplement their income seems inviting, and I know many who have taken the opportunity, it strips them of their leverage; they are no longer able to negotiate or be represented, because they are no longer unionized. It is basically a tactic that allows for the JCMC to do whatever they wish without any repercussions. For example: A nurse is “promoted” to Supervisor, drops from the union, and is subsequently dismissed. This allows for the JCMC to hire a new nurse right out of nursing school, or an LPN at a lower salary. I have seen nurses who have worked for the JC medical system for 25 years or more blatantly disregarded and tossed away in this manner many times. This of course, adds to your questions of competency. Furthermore, the medical profession had long been a revered institution and Doctors have well deservedly been treated as superior beings. This is no longer the case as our litigious culture, HMOs, and corporatization of medical care have squeezed the life out of our practitioners. It is no wonder the AMA has recently become more lax on its admissions in order to meet the need for doctors in this time of waning popularity of health care professions. In an ironic reversal, it is no longer more costly to become a doctor than it actually is to practice medicine. (ie, it is no longer worth it to become a doctor considering todays climate of malpractice, slander, and being at the mercy of HMOs and other entities.) I have seen the medical center go through many changes over the years, and this seems to be the most appalling transition yet. Of course, the government has caught on to them, but the results are absolutely devastating, and the employees are being irreparably harmed by the actions of upper level hydras. Something must be done about the way this is going. I wish I were astute enough to understand all of the legalities, business practices, and such that are involved. All I can do is contribute a voice that says, “Not everyone in the JCMC is a money hungry thief. There are honest caring people at stake here as well.” But certainly these injustices must be paid, and not at the expense of those who are not involved in this “malpractice.” This is the first time I have encountered anything speaking out against it, and I am glad. If only I knew of a way to actively do something, as I am sure there are larger voices than yours or mine that are capable of rectifying (at least, at some level) this situation. There are many people, employees, employees’ families, and patients who are being injured by this Tammany style operation, and we must band together to salvage what is left of this Jersey City institution, just as Jersey City itself is being reborn. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chris posted Message 10692 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : June 19, 2006 at 06:41:32 Subject: Re: Tom Gaynor is the only choice for Dog Catcher Avon By The Sea has enough corruption we don't need anymore - the town has been bought and sold to developers : Please...someone.....tell Gaynor that his self-promoting crap doesn't fly here. The more he spreads this dung around, the more it draws flies. This guy is a unless P.O.S. who knows nothing but how to s-ck this city dry. He is a hanger-on with no talent, no morales, no business even commenting on government here...much less promoting himself as a possible Mayoral candidate. Hey TOM...... Get a LIFE. We are very happy that you and Nancy are in retirement in Avon. PLEASE stay there and foist yourself on the political landscape somewhere other than here. : : Corruption will not be a badge of honor with him around.Jersey City wake up and bring this guyback from Avon-By-The-Sea. ***************** End Of Article ****************** Chris posted Message 10693 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : July 29, 2006 at 15:23:15 Subject: Re: parking authority questions :I was booted in 4 minutes parking on the wrong side of the road in Hoboken! Paid the $130 and have now received a summons for a court appearance due to unpaid ticket! Anyone know the deal with this? I have my receipt from the boot drop off. ***************** End Of Article ****************** debra sargisoff posted Message 10694 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 04, 2006 at 09:29:10 Subject: Re: Jersey City Medical Center-What You Don’t Know Can Kill You My mom was given nothing but the utmost care at Liberty Medical Center. Could it be because I was at her side 24 7? I hope not. I am sincerely taken back and disturbed with the facts released, today. No syringes!!!! No computor labels!! ***************** End Of Article ****************** Billy Joe posted Message 10695 in the Hudson County Politics Message Board Forum Dated : August 09, 2006 at 17:29:13 Subject: Re: Jersey City Medical Center-What You Don’t Know Can Kill You : : What proof, if any do you have to back up these allegations? Did you ever hear of slander? As a former employee of that place, I can attest to some of the allegations of the wrong doings there ***************** End Of Article ******************